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NJ: Another Poll Shows Corzine Leading By 3%A second poll out today shows Jon Corzine holding a 3% lead over Chris Christie in the race for New Jersey Governor. This time it comes from the leftist polling group Democracy Corps. GOVERNOR – NEW JERSEY (Democracy Corps) This poll was done October 21-22 among 604 likely voters.
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I hope this is true:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/10/22/senate_health_care_bill_likely_to_include_public_option.html
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/10/public-option-its-back.html
“I am told that Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) – who worked for months to get Olympia Snowe’s support for the bill and has consistently said a public option cannot pass the Senate – was apoplectic when Reid told him he wanted to include the public option.”
LOVE that. Eat it, Baucus.
3 GO YANKEES
This gives Harry Reid a lot of hope. Corzine has definitely shown Dirty Harry the way in which to saturate the media with millions on negatively and truly vaporize your opponent.
Not sure it will work as well with voters in Nevada as it has with Obomobots that make up the NJ electorate.
corzine has momentum. corzine will win!
Hey Cory. Is this the same Harry Reid who had the votes for cloture yesterday – and came up 13 votes short? LOL
#7 Bull. Carville who runs the Dem-Corps poll not only is a hardshell Dem, but is also a big campaign contributer to Corzine!
You can not trust a Dem-Corp poll in this race. There is too close a personal tie between the pollster and candidate.
-Polaris
Daggett will not even break double digits. This along with some of the other recent NJ-Gov polls are B.S.
BTW Cory, I’m sure Blanche Lincoln isn’t quite as thrilled as you with this “opportunity” of voting for the public option.
Public option aint gonna happen my friend.
DemCorps had Corzine +3, Daggett 14% in the last poll, so this is status quo.
#4, Dingy Harry is feeling the pinch. All this is going to do is stall everything. Dingy Harry has 15 more months. Time is ticking…
Christian Family NJ
Christie 49
Corzine 33
Daggett 7
The ABC report is same old-same old stuff that I commented on. The majority of the democrats certainly support some sort of public option. Perhaps even 51 support “robust public option”.
There are certainly 41 votes to vote for cloture on Obamacare. Blanche Lincoln-Nelson-Dorgan-Conrad-Johnson will not stake their senate seats on the theory that cloture was not a “no” vote on public option/Obamacare.
Captain Smith on the Titantic stayed on the bridge until the ship sank. Harry Reid and the liberals are staying on the bridge of the good ship “Public Option” until it goes down.
Why give up your position until you lose a vote??
Pelosi and Reid will both force votes on a public option. Hoyer, Obama and Baucus have already made it clear that a public option is not a requirement for Obamacare. So they are setting up the plate for defeat on Public option then just the regular old horrible Obamacare bill will be served up.
Then the question is will the liberals hold their nose to vote for this bill if it means shafting the unions,the young, the rich, our seniors and our disabled.
rdelbov just described the situation perfectly. Harry I have the votes for cloture Reid is just spouting BS like he always does. And ABC is more than happy to shill for him.
Voting for Cloture is confusing to explain.
Its take 60 votes to end debate and to bring a bill to a vote. Cloture is a “Yes” vote and I think 45 senators will vote “no” on cloture.
Voters will not be fooled as a vote for Cloture is the key vote.
They had the votes in August. Haha!
EPH,
From the thread below. Put Palin in a Phils uni so I don’t have to make that choice. Remeber Beyonce’s Laker outfit? Think of the same type with Palin.
Very light rumor is Palin will endorse Hoffman.
Christie may sink with Dede, proving issues matter. But I hope not.
I actually like Jersey, and admire the state. I hope they choose lower taxes.
Rdel,
Yes, and after these failed Cloture votes, I wonder how long it will take for the Dems to try to ram what they want through via “reconciliation” (even if it violates Senate rules) or more to the point use the “nuclear option”.
I will say here and now, that I am glad that GOP efforts to invoke the nuclear option failed. We’d be in the soup had the suceeded.
-Polaris
There are also some huge differences between the house and senate bills. The house bill has huge taxes on the wealthy.
The Baucus bill has more mandates and Cadillac health care taxes.
The house will not vote for Cadillac taxes. The senate will not vote for taxes on wealthy
What you might see, after the public option is thrown out, is that the GOP will vote on Cadillac taxes on health plans which hit many Union workers. That would be a poison bill for the house.
I just wish Christie had gotten aggressive before JC define him.
OBAMACARE DOES NOT HAVE 60 VOTES !!!
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 60 EITHER…
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/10/22/senate-defeats-dem-leader-reids-doc-fix-plan/
MD, that is a Democracy Corps poll. They are doing everything they can to prop up Corzine. What are the party breakdowns of that poll and what is the average weight in past Jersey elections?
Stabbing Baucus in the back is a sure way to get Baucus mad, give Snowe the opportunity to public walk away from the deal and might even pull Baucus, over the line to a No vote as well. How in world this makes any sense except in a contorted liberal mind, is beyond me.
Root for a progressive temper tantrum, which is what this is, as it might kill the whole damn thing.
Can we get some polling on Alan Grayson? That loudmouth is so obnoxious and he’s certainly not campaigning for victory in a district he barely won in 2008. It would feel so good to knock him out of office.
I still say this race is a toss-up but Christie has the intangible breakaway factor. (undecideds, Daggett voters bailing ship and voting in majority for Christie.)
25. well said. I cant believe my frined MD is falling for these garbage polls. Must be a Phils fan!
Hi Polaris,
Nice to see you check in. How ’bout them Longhorns?
27. Great question. If the GOP cant beat him they should pack it on.
Haven’t we heard this “We have the votes” before?
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/hca_20091022_9053.php
Here’s DeDe for you:
http://www.lifenews.com/state4524.html#
32. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
#30 I wish the ‘horns would show a bit more consistancy on offense, but to be fair OU is probably the best 3-3 country in the nation with a hellacious defense.
Right now I am cautiously optimistic that the ‘horns sweep the rest of the season and make it to the championship game.
-Polaris
DeVore takes on the NRSC. What is it with the GOP congressional committees this year? They must be polluted by RINOS. These people need to be broomed. http://www.rollcall.com/news/39811-1.html
Christie is collapsing. Sorry Brandon. But too many polls are coming out showing Christie going down.
The Phils have a chance to repeat as World Champs after taking out the chumps, uh, Dodgers for the decond year in a row. When have the Dodgers won 2 WS in a row?
EPH,
All the way in my hotel room at Toronto’s Sheraton, I felt your prayers for my Phils.
Polaris, the Halloween game in Stillwater is going to be tough. This will especially be the case if OSU gets Dez Bryant back by then. However, his backup, Hubert Aniyam is incredible. He’s a Terrell Owens clone from a size and speed standpoint.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/22/paterson-to-obama-you-just-cost-ny-a-billion-dollars-champ/
“All the way in my hotel room at Toronto’s Sheraton, I felt your prayers for my Phils.”
LOL, good one bro
Brandon,
If your worried over this garbage DEM poll then maybe my Christian Family poll will cheer you up!
First the Mets were going to beat us – nope.
Then the Rockies – nope.
Then the Dodgers because their bullpen was so much better than ours – nope
Now it is the Yankees who are going to beat us.
Here is a prediction. Aroid will hit less than 200 and old man Rivera will blow one game in the 9th.
Phils in 5 and I will be at the deciding game feeling EPH’s prayers coursing through my soul.
Let’s see:
Ras — Christie +2
Rutgers — Corzine +3 with Daggett pulling 20%
Democracy Corp — Corzine +3 with Daggett pulling 11%
Monmouth — Tie
PPP — Christie +1
NYT — Corzine +3 (475 likely voters)
Survey USA — Christie +1
Looks like a toss up to me with some ballooning numbers for Daggett though I have a hard time believing Daggett will breach at the most 8%.
Blue on blue – pass el popcorno
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/22/libs-to-reid-public-option-or-else/
Let’s wait on Neighborhood Research.
MD,
Bet?
TB,
Please stay away from my uterus today
Even though I’m not going to e-mail Wissing about Chek smearing me, isn’t it safe to say that the rumor regarding Palin/Hoffman isn’t light considering that NRO reported it?
WHERE ARE ALL THE FRIGGIN JOBS ALREADY????
Yankees in 7 (cringe)
WHY IS GITMO STILL OPEN???
#49
LOL. You might as well be on her payroll! If I were Hoffman, I would not invite Palin. She is too polarizing.
WHY ARE WE STILL IN IRAQ????
PALIN/HOFFMAN IN 2012 ~!!!!!
Double or nothing on the steak dinner bro. Straight up – Phils win, I win. Yanks win and the slate is clean for you.
Fair warning – I may decide to make you pay for me and my wife if you lose. My next trip to Vegas is in late April.
TB,
See post 33
“Double or nothing on the steak dinner bro. Straight up – Phils win, I win. Yanks win and the slate is clean for you. ”
DEAL!
MD,
Let me know when you make your plans for Vegas and I’ll meet you.
WHERE IS THE DAMN HOPE AND CHANGE ALREADY???
STOP THE ILLEGAL WAR ON FOXNEWS !!!
TB,
Don’t even bother to read ? Posts. Her father did not love her and she takes it out on men. I haven’t read a post of hers in 5 weeks and I am sure it is driving her nuts.
EPH,
Can you bring your wife? That way my wife can have a buddy and we can have a good time.
Zogby has a South Jersey poll out:
http://www.politickernj.com/editor/34388/south-jersey-poll-has
Polaris,
If you’re still on freq, give us a download on Christie v the field in NJ. Thanks.
Eph,
It’s pretty funny how Lifenews describes Romney, LOL.
So if you average the two polls out we are left with an answer of, who the heck knows what election day will bring. I just find it hard to believe Daggert will get over 10%, especially given his answers to some of the questions posed at him.
#65 Marv,
At this point I can only guess at how NJ will turn out. I do note that all the polls that show Corzine ahead are either blatently biased Dem polls (like Dem Corps and NYTimes) or those that show a completely unrealistic level of Daggett support (or both).
Based on the credible polls and based on what I expect to be a voting-booth collapse of Daggett on election day, I think that Christie takes this race by 3-5 or so, with about 5% Daggett support.
-Polars
Brandon,
Doesn’t Christie need to destroy Corzine in South Jersey? Isn’t that one of our base areas?
#67 Big-D,
Don’t average the polls. Not all polls are created equal.
-Polaris
#64 Brandon,
You are our NJ expert. What does it mean? I read the article linked and it sounds good to me.
#69. Not really. Corzine won those districts 52-48 in 2005.
And it shows the possiblity of Assembly pickups in District 1.
#69. Northwest Jersey, and Ocean/Monmouth are the “base”.
“Can you bring your wife?”
Absolutely.
I just have to make sure we both wear underwear that night.
They just said my flight would leave on time! I can’t believe it!
#72, yeah but that area is more conservative than the rest of the state.
Forrester won 48% there according to Zogby and 43.5% statewide.
It’s a bad sign for Christie in my opinion.
66. I know it TB.
Hmmm..I have to take those Zogby polls with a grain of salt. But it is good to see that Christie shows a 34-31 lead. That’s a seven point swing from when Corzine defeated Forrester. Daggett at 18%???!?!? All these polls coming out of Jersey are too volatile. It’s a toss-up plain and simple. We won’t know until the early morning the next day after Election Day.
#68 Polaris,
Sounds about right to me, although 5% for Daggett might be a little low (7 or 8 is my guess.)
What was Corzine’s margin of victory against Forrester?
OK – explain the underwear comment. Then again, don’t. I don’t want to know.
MD,
Are you in Toronto now?
#81. 10
Okay, and one more thing, you people are lucky you don’t have elections coming up. We are getting at least 5 pieces of campaign literature each day in the mail.
Uhhhh…that’s not good Brandon if that Zogby poll is to be believed. I still think the Daggett number will determine the winner of the race.
New poll from Anchorage:
http://www.dittmanresearch.com/pdfs/Job%20Approval%20Oct%202009%20(2).pdf
Parnell 81/10
Murkowski 64/32
Begich 45/47
Young 45
Halcro 41
Murkowski is the Alaskan version of Charlie Crist. Her strongly approve numbers are strikingly similar to Crist’s numbers. If only we had a Palin/Rubio figure that could run, we could knock out someone who is well to the left of where she should be in Alaska on economic/social issues.
Young is in pretty good shape if he’s up 4 in Anchorage considering that the non-Anchorage Republicans are likely heavily socially conservative. It looks like he’ll have a much easier time with Halcro than he had with Parnell. I don’t think he gets 60% but it’ll be close.
#86. I’ve never found a Zogby poll that I’ve believed, so I think we’re good.
EPH,
In Toronto, heading back to Philly.
90. see any hot asian chicks ?
Oh yea! The Keg on Richmond and York has the most exquisite Asian hostess I have ever seen. She is always there when I am. I wish my bberry took pics.
Just to clarify, there are hot Asian chicks all over the place (although more in Vancouver) but the hostess at the Keg is one of the 3 hottest females I have ever seen in person.
92. I need to get a job like you have, MD.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/obama-paycut-is-payback-white-house-slashes-wall-street-salaries-by-90.html
SUSA NJ
Christie 41%
Corzine 39%
Daggett 19%
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=7db77e05-7dee-44e9-b5c1-3cceb228e39c
Not every poll can be wrong. Daggett has traction. Another 4 years of JC.
There is a downside EPH.
MDefl,
Nader had traction too and so did Perot. Nevertheless they collapsed on election day and the same will happen to Daggett.
It’s one thing to back a protest candidate for a poll. It’s quite another to VOTE for a protest candidate that will almost certainly lose especially if it helps elect someone you despise.
-Polaris
Its been only an hour since my last healthcare post yet there is more to be said. The legislative process is very complex when it comes to a bill this size.
1. The liberals may already be settling or making peace with the idea of having a bill without the public option. I say “May” but everything piece of ground will only be surrendered followed by bloodshed. The Press is a willing dupe in this process as they swallow hook, line and sinker everything that Reid and Pelosi puts out. So even if the senate will not pass a Public option the bill will be more liberal if the house can pass a public option plan.
2. The Blue Dogs-moderate democrats-if democrats in vulnerable districts are not complete fools. They know that Pelosi will probably settled for 90% of a loaf so why throw yourself on the spear of the public option. So why vote for what cannot pass the senate? The press talks up 60 votes for Cloture to bolster the democrats in the house but everyone knows that Senators will not cut off debate with a public option bill.
3. So in the house in the next day or so this scenerio will play out. Will Pelosi have the names of 218 congressmen to pass a public option bill? She cannot write a bill and send it to CBO without knowing that. This is the next stage as the Senate three (Baucus-Reid-Dodd) will not produce an outline of a bill until next week.
Reid has done Pelosi much harm this week by his handling of the Medicare vote.
If I had to guess right now I think the Center-right will hold in the hhouse. Pelosi then will have to see if her left will hold. She might only get 15 blue dogs or moderates to change to a yes on healthcare if she drops Public Option. If she loses 30 ultra liberals she is still sunk.
So Carville with his Democrat buddies on staff, got one point more than he got last time for Corzine. He was the high water mark at 41% and now goes again where no other man dares and pegs Corzine at 42%. Even in this scenario, Christie has to get one more vote than half of the undecided ( which is six percent ) and he wins.
Everyone who thinks a guy with 59% disapproval and a big fat D after their name is going to get more than 41% ( every single one of the non disapproval crowd )?
I remain pretty sure that Christie will win, its tough in a Blue state but Corzine has done nothing to earn the votes of even 45%.
SUSA has Christie +20 or so ahead with Indies.
Corzine will lose the election.