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NY23: Hoffman Leads Owens By 5%

Siena Research is out with their update for the New York Congressional race and shows Conservative Doug Hoffman ahead of Democrat Bill Owens by 5%.

US HOUSE – NEW YORK – CD23 (Siena)
Doug Hoffman (C) 41%
Bill Owens (D) 36%
Dede Scozzafava (R) 6%

This poll was done November 1st among 606 likely voters.

Posted by admin at 9:40 am
Filed under: 2009 Special Elections | Comments (132)

132 Responses to “NY23: Hoffman Leads Owens By 5%”

  1. JulStol says:

    1

  2. JulStol says:

    Reposted from below
    Ras 46-52
    -13

  3. Tim says:

    Closer than I would have thought. Lots of undecideds, this late….

  4. AuH2ORepublican says:

    Siena’s turnout model must be quite different from PPP’s.

    Still, the trend in the last few Siena polls is unmistakable. Hoffman will win by at least 8%.

  5. Tim says:

    I was thinking 10+, because of this district being heavily GOP. But, it may be a bit closer…..

  6. Hunter says:

    The endorsement will hurt Owens more than people think…

    Those conservatives who were not planning on voting or unsure, are now pissed that DeDe turned her back on the party…

    I suspect that Hoffman will secure a good amount of late-to-the-election folks who are going to show up and vote…

  7. Phil says:

    That’s my take too Hunter.

  8. Chekote says:

    The only way the Dem could win was if the GOP split their vote. Anyway, I hope that a lot of early Republican straight ticket votes were not wasted on Dede.

  9. Darrell says:

    It could reflect the fact that a good percentage of ScozzaTheHutt supporters were DEMS who liked her better than Owens. So for them, Owens is the second choice. Just shows how liberal DeDe was. My prediction for this race is Hoffman, 49/40/9, which might be a little pessimistic for Hoffman, but still a nine point victory was NOT even dreamed of just two weeks ago.

  10. Chekote says:

    The NY GOP officials have A LOT to answer for their Scozza selection.

  11. Chekote says:

    Of course, if some miracle Owens will pulls this off it will be used to marginalize the conservatives. Hoffman has to pull this one out.

  12. Phil says:

    you got that right!

  13. Brutus says:

    #10 I hate the word, but “vetting” was obivously minimal at best. I wonder if D.D. had compromising pictures of the selection committee.

    The reference to Hutt got me curious and I looked up a photo of her. Big mistake.

  14. Darrell says:

    Hoffman will win. ScozzaTheHutt has the mark on her of the bumbling politican who cannot even do the traitor thing right. Her endorsement of Owens only helps Hoffman’s cause. It tells the voters 1) Everything I have been accusing Hoffman of is bogus, 2) Everything Hoffman has been preaching about me is actually true.

  15. pitchaboy says:

    Hoffman will be over 50 and it wont be close.

  16. Howard Dean 1/20/13 says:

    #

    Hoffman will be over 50 and it wont be close.

    Comment by pitchaboy — November 2, 2009 @ 10:02 am

    Yup

  17. rdelbov says:

    That’s my thinking as well but lets go GOTV on Tuesday

  18. BayernFan says:

    Regarding the Quinn Christie surge in five days. Maybe that Shaftan dude was right in that there IS a BIG Christie surge under way hte last few days that will put him over the top comfortably.

  19. Darrell says:

    18…the cards are all lining up good for the GOP. Just one thing left to do. Vote early, vote often.

  20. Frank says:

    http://www.rightpundits.com

    Rasmussen numbers

    Frank

  21. Matt Mars says:

    Here is to much more happy hunting … RINO hunting … for the Club For Growth as we move into 2010.

    Release the hounds!

  22. rdelbov says:

    The Polls have really turned against Pelosicare. The democrats have to know that they are walking into a minefield on this.

    1. Yes the polls have really turned against Pelosicare but you have seen anything yet. Many the taxes and medicare cuts go into effect before the health insurance does in 2013. All this healthcare stuff requires an intrastrucure. So taxes come in and only beaurcrats comes out for three years. I might add that 2010-2012 are surplus years on healthcare and then 2013-2019 are deficit years under the senate plan. Ouch. So the democrats pile on taxes and fees but no healthcare.

    2. yet the healthcare industry will be suffering in the three years up to Obamacare. Guess who takes the heat for layoffs and taxes. Democrats.

    3. Employers amy keep a jump on pushing folks off healthcare. Ouch folks lose healthcare but Obamacare is not up and running.

    4. Finally if the GOP wins big in 2010 they just refuse to fund Obamacare. Shut the government down-refuse to fund death and illness panels. Void the taxes and fines. Of course a new Prez and more GOP members in 2012 could put a nail in the Obamacare coffin.

    So walk the plank in 2010 with 10% unemployment and lousy poll numbers. I look for the house bill to be pulled and postponed til next month.

  23. MD says:

    Hoffman is also going to benefit from the Stalinists (LOL) GOTV. Frank Rich calling us Stalinists.

    I LOVE the fact that HE opened that door. Now, we are going to drive right through it.

  24. Brandon says:

    New Poll:

    Corzine 88%
    Daggett 11%
    Christie 1%

    From October 27 – November 1, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,533 New Jersey dead likely voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percentage points.

  25. MD says:

    23 KOS ALERT!!!!

  26. tgcaGNAT says:

    OK…sorry for missing all the fun but I’ve been super busy here in CA with our 15% unemployment rate. I think I got to take on everyone elses work. But I am not worried because I know the stimulus will kick in any day now and create massive employment and stability here. Pelosi and Boxer are looking out for me so I am not worried.

    Well, here’s my totally unscientific prediction (gut feeling) of the Tuesday vote:

    Jersey:
    Christie 48%
    Corzine 44%
    Daggett 8%

    New York:
    Hoffman 50%
    Owens 46%
    Scozzafava 4%

  27. MD says:

    We need a GNAT reunion. Also, a get together of the paranoid boys club would be nice given that we are entering the holiday season.

  28. tgcaGNAT says:

    Republican Scozzafava Backs Democrat in New York Congress Race

    Well, it appears Scozzafava is backing Owens in New York. If this is true, then it sounds like sour grapes to me. How can she so easily switch allegiance and claim the Dem is a better choice when her own party has rallied around Hoffman. This says two things:

    (1) someone is bitter and letting their emotions rule over their judgment

    (2) sticking to the status quo that only two party rule is important and that 3rd party candidates don’t have a place, even legitimate ones

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=afQoujAldk.U

  29. tgcaGNAT says:

    Once a GNAT, always a GNAT!

  30. KnightHawk says:

    I love the smell of a positive poll in the morning.

  31. Darrell says:

    30…yep! ScozzaTheHutt, by endorsing Owens, has just validated as TRUE all of the things Hoffman has been saying about her.

  32. Ghost 4 Life says:

    RETALLIATION POLL – TRASH!!

    …AND ADD 8 POINTS TO HOFFMAN

  33. wheelz says:

    Did anyone notice that on Hannity’s show with
    Frank Lunt’s Group that all the African American
    people all said they voted for Corzine last time
    but this time were all voting for Daggett.
    Corzine can not win without massive black support.

    Also check out my predictions on #36 of the
    predictions thread. Mine were made before the
    dropout of Scuzzi-offa.

    To all who vote or lean to (R) Be sure to
    VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN!!!

  34. Tina says:

    Yeah, the Sienna model is off, but the trend is there.

    This is an anti-Obumbler – anti Bailout- tsunami.

  35. Phil says:

    Where’s Carville’s poll??? WE WANT CARVILLE!!!

  36. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    is Ras or SUSA doing one more for NJ?

  37. Tina says:

    I am listening to a Harmer interview – CA – 10.

  38. Jack the extremist prof says:

    Wow! A few weeks ago i thought we were going to win just VA. Today, the story is completely different!
    “ObamaCare is Dead” -Eph

  39. Matt Mars says:

    Charlie …. Charlie Crist …… YOU’RE NEXT. The pitchforks are out.

  40. Ghost 4 Life says:

    rumor has it that at least 12 more NJ polls are due out in the next 20 minutes.

  41. D.QUIXOTE says:

    Color him GONE

  42. Marv says:

    #43 Eph,

    Sources please.

  43. Chekote says:

    #40

    I have no hope for CA. Sorry Tina but I don’t see Californians actually waking up and taking the Dems out of office. Too bad. It is a gorgeous state. Especially northern Cal.

  44. sam says:

    Lots of undecideds among likely voters in Siena poll, a day before the election?

    Which basically means that Siena does not know how to poll.

  45. Chekote says:

    BTW, I said a while back that the Dems were going to drag their feet on HC reform to see how the elections would turn out. Remember, Obama wanted a bill BEFORE the August recess.

  46. MD says:

    Sam,

    They just want to give a little wiggle room that way they have some deniability when Hoffman wins by double digits. It goes like this:

    1. We had the trend 100% correct.
    2. Many must have decided at the poll to vote for Hoffman.

  47. Polaris says:

    #47 Also on 538 at least one of the commentators showed that Sienna was polling way too many Dems (that was in the prior Sienna poll).

    Basically Sienna has shown the same Hoffman movement that PPP(D) did. I expect Hoffman to not only win but win fairly easily since DeDe went out and (IMHO stupidly) proved that the ‘knuckledragger teabagger conservatives’ were right about her all along.

    -Polaris

  48. sam says:

    MD:

    Whis is another way of saying, “we have no clue”.

  49. sam says:

    1 in every 5 LIKELY voter undecided, 2 days before the election?

    Sheesh, Siena, I know it was a weekend, but get rid of the bong already.

  50. tgcaGNAT says:

    The Reps are dead in CA simply because the Governator’s wife keeps breaking the laws.

    1st she was caught using her handheld cell phone while driving (CA law passed last year requires hands-free while driving)

    2nd, she was caught parked in a red zone for an hour while running a personal appointment.

    What do you think would happen to my car if I parked it in a red zone for an hour?

    If only the Governator could get his wife to be a law-abiding citizen, then the Reps would have a chance in CA! :-)

    P.S. I give Maria Schriver some leeway here because she is a life-long Dem and Kennedy and they just can’t help breaking the laws to begin with due to their expectation of self-entitlement.

  51. Polaris says:

    #52 Actually if tomorrow goes like what we’re seeing right now, Sienna is going to need that bong. So will all liberal Dems.

    -Polaris

  52. Marv says:

    Good morning folks,

    Are we expecting a RAS NJ and a Democracy Corps NJ poll sometime today?

  53. Brandon says:

    I don’t think we are seeing a Rasmussen poll today. Their e-mail today makes no mention of it. Maybe tomorrow morning?

  54. Tina says:

    Were did I even predict a Harmer win? The D rat party id in that district is +18. Everything has to align itself to pull the upsets. Garamendi is not a very good candidate, Harmer has little $$$, but he has run a brilliant campagin, and he soundly beat Garamendi in the last debate.

    I only commented that polling in the state has been very minimal, compared to NY 23 (even if one were to ignore Mazzola’s Oil cliam that she was an R, now supports the D).

  55. Tina says:

    Mazzola = Dede.

  56. Marv says:

    #56 Brandon,

    Thanks. Perhaps Carville will not even publish a final poll…..seriously.

  57. rdelbov says:

    I see just a little narrow sliver of light in CA-10

    1. The Poll for this race has been widely misreported as 50D-40R. Actually it was 50D-40R-6 other 4- undecided. In a race with little TV or local publicity a poll only shows 4% undecided. Even among likely voters that’s low.

    2. The Other candidates are Peace & Freedom-American Independent -Green. Not listing them by name or party lowers that other vote. Other could be 10% and the Lt. Gov is under 50%. If you bump up undecideds plus the other vote he may be at 45% two weeks ago. That’s real bad for a democrat in this district.

    3. This is not Grammendi’s district. He smells of carpet bagger. He’s been a Sacremento and Central Valley guy. Most of this district is SF Bay suburbs. He’s an outsider and the libs may wait for one of their own to win this seat.

    The low key nature of this race smells upset to me.

  58. Tina says:

    Its funny that the Drat plants now have an array of polling firms to publish polls – and get legitimacy – see Carville’s Democracy Corpse.

  59. Tina says:

    Go to Harmer’s website and you will see the link that Garamendi has to the Piglosi and Obumbler.

  60. Chekote says:

    Well, Axelrod and others are pushing the talking point that Dede dropping out means that “moderates need not to apply at the GOP”. What a bunch of crap! There was nothing moderate about Scozza! She was a Kos liberal. Again, NY GOP officials have A LOT to answer for.

  61. tgcaGNAT says:

    Also in CA, Newsom has decided not to run for Governor because he is not meeting fundraising expectations. Newsom may be fine for SF, but he is a catasrophe for CA. He was my district councilman in SF and I believe he would try to drag CA way too left. Beside, how can anyone vote for a man who keeps his campaign manager busy with errands as he is screwing his wife. This after in additon to his drinking problems where he had to seek help because he was supposedly routinely intoxicated or abusing alcohol. I am shocked that a Dem politician would do such things! I thought only Rep politicians did those things Yep. Good ole SF values!

    Now we can get a real conservative Dem elected like Jerry Brown. :-)

  62. Tina says:

    NJ Governor: Democrat Jon Corzine 44.6 percent, Republican Chris Christie 44.4 percent, Independent Chris Daggett 10 percent. This was the prediction you were waiting for, wasn’t it? It could very well go the other way; in fact, I can easily see Christie winning narrowly on Election Night. But then Corzine will dip into those absentee ballots where the signatures don’t match, and some friendly judge will rule that because of “dozens of people” on voting lines in Camden and Newark, polls have to be kept open until 3 a.m., and suddenly boxes of ballots from Republican precincts will go missing, etc. Many of my readers make compelling cases that the Democrats’ lack of enthusiasm will reduce their turnout to the point where the usual cheating can’t make up the difference, but I just can’t bring myself to believe that the Democrats will go quietly . New Jersey, as it is currently run, is Gotham City without Batman, and we know what happens to hard-charging prosecutors who try to clean up dirty systems. I believe in Chris Christie. I just don’t believe in the rule of law in New Jersey, or in the capacity of Chris Daggett’s supporters to realize that a guy polling at 10 percent isn’t going to do anything but split the anti-incumbent vote.
    _______________________________________

    This has me worried about NJ. Corzine controls the thuggery and the courts.

  63. Tina says:

    My last post was from the Campaign Spot – but I have echosed very similar thoughts about the NJ race in the past week.

  64. Chekote says:

    I can’t believe Jerry Brown is still around. I remember his from the late 70s.

  65. Tina says:

    Also, in CA -10, something is definetly going on – see it at the Campign Spot. Water and the Obumbler administration unemploying 80,000 folks is a BIG issue.

    All CA Republicans should wake up and focus on this in 2010.

  66. Tina says:

    Many of my readers make compelling cases that the Democrats’ lack of enthusiasm will reduce their turnout to the point where the usual cheating can’t make up the difference, but I just can’t bring myself to believe that the Democrats will go quietly .

    _______________________________________

    They won’t GIVE UP easily.

  67. pitchaboy says:

    I love Jim Geraghty but this is not going to be a two point finish; it will be Christie by five.

  68. Jan says:

    The CA-10 race has been in the back of the closet compared to NY-23. However, it will nevertheless be interesting to note the gap between Harmer and Garamendi. The closer it is the more successful the diminishment of the dims here in CA. Although this is a deep blue state, we are hurting here, and I think moderates and indies are picking up on the incompetence in the dim-monopolized legislation.

  69. Marv says:

    #60 rdelbov,

    I suggested last night that CA10 could see a surprise Harmer win. We are seeing evidence of serious movement toward Republican/conservative candidates in NJ, VA, and NY23. Those races are not happening in a vacuum and are not to be considered as isolated cases. In my opinion, they show decisive movement away from the liberal agenda, potentially on a broad national scale. We continue to focus on those three races because they are the highest profile and most polled.

    An underpolled race, such as CA10, has the potential to surprise folks when the Republican pulls an upset, but in fact, the same forces are at work there as are at work in NJ, VA, and NY23.

    Another case in point, which I mentioned last night, was the surprise Republican win in the Albuqueque mayoral race. That also came out of left field.

  70. pitchaboy says:

    It is tough to win California as the minorities are in the majority there. They love big government and dems; until they lose their shirts, they will vote dems. It doesnt help when the so called republican governor is at the helm of the bankruptcy prceedings of the state.

  71. Jan says:

    …however, CA minorities and the youth vote are notorious for being absent in these mid-year elections. There is really nothing pulling them to the ballot boxes tomorrow — no drama or exciting candidates.

    Tina — do you have a link to the campaign spot that you were getting some of your CA-10 info from?

  72. tgcaGNAT says:

    Yes, Jerry Brown was recently mayor of Oakland. He certainly turned that city around. It is now safe to walk downtown during dusk with your kids and a S.W.A.T team and no one will try to mug you. Perhaps he will do even better things at the state level. I have only known one person to get pistol-whipped and robbed in Oakland in the last few years. Oakland has consistently been in the top 5 for crime and murder in the nation and there were only 125 murders in 2008 for this city of about 400K people. Brown’s policies have really helped turn Oakland around.

  73. tgcaGNAT says:

    #74…until they lose their shirts? We are passed that in CA. The pants are coming off soon and maybe even the undies…which of course will be fine in SF. :-)

  74. rdelbov says:

    One note on CA -10(okay probably more then one)7% of voters have already voted for other candidates. I personally think it will be 10% or more. Lots of disgruntled ultra libs with the Lt Gov. The libs are into sending messages as well. John G. is not one of theirs on so many levels. He is not bay area, ultra lib and is handicapped bu that white male business. I mean he is a white male and if elected this week he holds this seat for life.

    We may see a little Cao effect (after LA-1) where all the folks who are eyeing the seat(and their supporters) either sit out or vote for someone else.

  75. Jan says:

    In Ca recently Bill Lockyear (Democratic State Treasurer) “lectured” the democratic legislature about the stupid bills they fastened their attention on. His words of advice was to just “stop it!” It was a fascinating rant, ending with his advice to California democrats that they could learn from republicans how to put the state back in financial shape.

    I really do think the tide is turning a bit here, through a heighened misery index and massive dissatisfaction with how this state is being run. There is also a growing irritation with labor unions and government employees.

  76. MD says:

    Are you the same Jan at BJG?

  77. Chekote says:

    #72

    I hope you are right Jan. However, I think a lot of potential GOP voters have left CA because they got fed up. What is left is a large percentage that depends on state programs.

  78. Big D (The only Republican/Libertarian kos plant) says:

    Being in Southern California, I don’t see any movement yet, there are rumblings and I suspect the house of cards will collapse on the Dems at some point, but that point is not in the foreseeable future. Dems will fall on a case by case basis (like Grey Davis), but they won’t be swept away like they are going to be in other states.

  79. Chekote says:

    I just watched Obama give his little spill on the economy. I still find it hard to believe that someone like Volcker would lend his name to give the Obama-clown credibility. Oh well…. he must be senile. Anyway, Obama recycled again his campaign speech welcoming ideas from all corners. Yeah sure, Mr. President. /sarc

  80. Marv says:

    #83 Big D

    CA10 could be an example of a Dem falling away on a case by case basis in the Golden State.

  81. phoenixrisen says:

    COMMENT OF THE YEAR, saw this on Redstate. A conservative talking about the NRCC wanting to be center right which we all know is being watered down.

    You know what would suck?
    Jack_Savage Sunday, November 1st at 9:32PM EST (link)
    If the GOP lost both houses of congress and the White House under the “big tent” plan….

    oh wait….

    Talk about sad to see.

  82. Chekote says:

    Eph

    On Saturday night someone spray painted swastikas on the front of the kosher restaurant where we hold our monthly meetings. The police thinks it was a Halloween prank and not a hate crime. Also, at the pub that my hubbie and I frequent, one of the waiter was dressed as Hitler. I guess Nazis are the latest Halloween fad.

  83. Chekote says:

    Time for Rush.

  84. Jan says:

    #80 yup! The one and only…..!

  85. DrJay says:

    and D+11

  86. Chekote says:

    #91

    Christie definitely has momentum going into tomorrow.

  87. Chekote says:

    Jul

    How about those Yankees?!

  88. rdelbov says:

    How to know President Obama’s lying? His lips are moving.

    Obama wants to address our federal debt situation and mercy its a problem:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aG.i1dNMKRrc

    How can Bloomberg report this without laughing?? Its an absolute joke. I might add that I do not believe that Obama even reported back on his efforts to cut even 100 million out of this year’s Trillion plus budget.

  89. phoenixrisen says:

    SUSA shows movement to Christie as well. The previous poll had them tied. I still say Christie by 4. Stick a fork in Corzine though doing so might bleed ACORN/SEIU/Bigunion cockroaches that might eat up the GOP votes.

  90. Big D (The only Republican/Libertarian kos plant) says:

    #86 agreed, I wish Reps could get some momentum, but they are a disaster in CA. Thank God for the 1/3 (+1) of the R’s in the state Senate that hold up the budget each year and at least force a little bit of sanity on the borrowing and spending (2/3 to pass a budget here).

    The unions just control the government and are killing the state. I wish Arnold’s initiatives were on the ballot this year, I think one or two might sneak through.

  91. phoenixrisen says:

    WOW!! D+11 in SUSA poll?? I think Polaris and Tina are right. D+8 sounds about right.

  92. Chekote says:

    Hey Jan!

    How are things going?

  93. Jan says:

    Good Chekote. I am lingering on the blogs today, but have to go study for a midterm soon — yuck!

  94. MDefl says:

    95 – Rdel,

    That was the responsibility of those in the breakout sessions. How dare you assign blame to Obama.

  95. Chekote says:

    #100

    Good luck. What degree are you seeking?

  96. MDefl says:

    Jan,

    It is nice to see you at HHR.

    I love my Beemer btw!

  97. Chekote says:

    What happened to KB, Tim, AATX, Corey? I haven’t seem them in a while.

  98. Jim says:

    Re #73- Albuquerque GOP mayoral victory

    Keep in mind that the R got a minority of the vote and won only becuase two Dems split the majority. However, Reps have also picked up the city hall in Anchorage and Corpus Christi (first R mayor there ever, I think).

    Quite a few mayoral contests tomorrow, mostly on local issues, but keep an eye out if the Reps pick up a few with no losses to the Dems. A small straw, but still a straw, if it happens.

  99. sharon says:

    How can Consumer Spending be down and Manufacturing Growth be the highest since 06? Are manufacturers producing and just taking a loss?

  100. Polaris says:

    Good confirmation poll from SUSA.

    -Polaris

  101. MDefl says:

    Great news! Obama just found some additional savings for the deficit:

    $48,000 – Joe biden’s hair plugs are scheduled to be updated and this time Obama told Joe that he is responsible for his own hair. How Reagan like of Obama.

  102. BayernFan says:

    The Dems are trying their darndest to get out the Obama vote. I think they know it is slipping away.

  103. Tina says:

    I can not believe that Corzine’s sock puppet lied about Palin.

  104. wylie e. coyote - patriotic american citizen says:

    We need to let these crooks know they WILL NOT be allowed to steal our Liberty. Here is a great OP-ED piece by Rep Shadegg about how the Obamacare creeps have colluded with the Health Insurance lobby to force the Unconstitutional Individual Mandate down our throats:

    http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWVjOWNkOGEwOGNkZTJkODJiNTkwODJlYTBjNzUyZWQ=

    Key Quote:

    “To give you some perspective, two weeks after Barack Obama was elected president, the country’s largest health insurance trade association, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), came out in support of forcing all Americans to purchase health insurance (the individual mandate). In exchange for the promise of millions of new enrollees, some of the country’s biggest insurers agreed to the Democrats’ proposed regulation of their industry. Rather than fight the party with complete control of Washington, insurance companies understand that supporting the Democrats’ takeover will prove to be quite lucrative.

    Despite the recent demonization of health-insurance companies, Nancy Pelosi, insurers and the Congressional Democrats are in near unanimous agreement when it comes to imposing their will on the American people. For example, consider the individual mandate which forces all Americans to buy a government-approved plan. Both Democrats and insurers support stiff penalties or even jail time for failure to comply with the mandate! The proof: Not a single Democrat has signed my resolution, H.Res. 796, opposing fines and jail time for the uninsured in any health-care-reform bill.

    This is a stark contrast to President Obama’s statement in 2008, when he eloquently stated on the campaign trail that an individual mandate punishes those who cannot afford insurance. Not once but twice Obama said: “[H]ere are people who are paying fines and still can’t afford it, so now they’re worse off than they were. They don’t have health insurance, and they’re paying a fine.” Unfortunately, President Obama has now flip-flopped on his opposition to an individual mandate and supports it along with the powerful insurance industry.”

    This is a CORRUPT BARGIN where a big and connected lobby lines its pocket and allow the socialist/statest to nationalize health care and seize an huge amount of POWER for the Federal government!

    This cannot be allowed to stand if we are to remain a free and indpendent people!

    We must work today and vote tommorow for ALL conservative candidates in NY, CA, NJ, and VA to send the statists a LOUD message that WE THE PEOPLE are STILL SOVERIGN!

    Everyone needs to get to DC on the 4th to participate in REP Bachman’s rally and continue to fax, write, call, and email in opposition to this scam!

  105. Tina says:

    We need to have Christie win at the ballot by 4 points or more for the MOF not to be a factor.

  106. Tina says:

    I would buy a Ford product and I will never ever consider GM or Chrysler.

  107. Bobby says:

    SO I just hung up with my Aunt in New Jersey. She is a registered R who is sick of politics. She had told me in mid-October that she was going to sit the election out or vote for Daggett. She called to tell me today that she was happily voting for Chris Christie today (actually she already voted by absentee ballot). This may be the shift we are seeing…R’s are coming home.

  108. MDefl says:

    Sharon,

    It is a result of the clunkers program. It is called disintermediation. Basically, the clunkers stole purchases from other areas.

  109. Jan says:

    Chekote — I have a BS in nursing, and am now in a certificate program for Addictive Counseling.

    MDefl — Thanks! Am glad you and your beemer are pals. But, then again what is there not to like about BMW’s, except their price tag and pricey maintenance after the warrenty runs out. It handles like no other car, IMHO.

  110. DrJay says:

    Sorry, wrong link (I was comparing):

    Monmouth: Corzine 43-41

    http://www.monmouth.edu/polling/admin/polls/MUP31_2.pdf

  111. Tina says:

    New thread….

  112. Gary Maxwell says:

    WELL WELL where is our friend Jason to tell us we have to vote for DeDe, then the skunk withdraws and supports the Democrat? She is not unfairly portrayed as a liberal, she is one. And a disloyal one at that. Good riddance, we will win without her and send even a stronger message to blue dog Democrats. The media, again missing the message, is that the Tea Party is not Republicans, its neither but all about fiscal responsibility. Republicans will get the same treatment as Democrats unless they figure it out. And you can not hoke up some deal that spends a lot more tax dollars, claim then its deficit neutral ( a la HC Reform ) and not pay a price.

    The sweep, which is what is going to happen, is going to send shockwaves. Christie wins much easier than anyone is expecting.

  113. Cam Rep says:

    #114–

    She only voted once?! What kind of New Jerseyan is she?!

  114. MDefl says:

    I hope my prediction of Corzine by 2% proves to be wrong.

  115. Marv says:

    #105 Jim

    Watch the Atlanta mayoral race tomorrow.

  116. Bobby says:

    OBAMA’s CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!

  117. knova says:

    120 – Gary, you are being unduly tough on jason. He stated weeks ago that until Hoffman passed Dede that he would support the party candidate and then support Hoffman once it became apparent that he would win. jason has been behind Hoffman for a week or so.

    We are mostly GOP here. jason had his reasons, and he admitted that he was wrong. I have argued with him myself, but I think that we should accept that he had the GOP’s best interests in mind, accepted that he was wrong, then move on to take on Dems, not each other.

    Just my $0.02

  118. KnightHawk says:

    #123 – Yeah the white girl might actually win, CRAZY!

  119. Chekote says:

    #125

    I can understand why Jason supported Dede. However, he should have figured out (based on Scozza’s stand on the issues) that she would have just provided “bipartisan” cover for the Dems had she been elected to Congres. That’s why I didn’t support her.

  120. Chekote says:

    #126

    White woman winning in Atlanta???? Ooooo child, what’s goin’ on in Atlanta!

  121. Marv says:

    #128 Chekote

    A white woman winning the mayorship in Atlanta will be as big a shock to the city as was the fire.

  122. KnightHawk says:

    Like a 5 way race, but she still has a shot at getting 50.1% to avoid a run off, trying to remember where but I saw a poll that had her in the higher 40’s. If she doesn’t win it outright she probably will not win a run off though.