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Saving Jobs All Over Maryland

This is becoming a great day as be reported all around the blogosphere about the jobs being saved all over the country in state after state according to Recovery.gov. So I might as well jump in and share the great news about the jobs being saved in Maryland.

You see, you start here at the main State/Territories Main Page. You can click whichever state you wish, so I clicked on Maryland.

Once on this page for your state, you can scroll down and under the box for “Top Congressional Districts”, just click the link to list all the Congressional Districts. For Maryland, even I was amazed at the number of jobs saved in some of the Congressional Districts. For instance, in the 38th Congressional District in Maryland, $788,860 was spent to save 16 jobs. In the 40th Congressional District, 12 jobs were saved after the feds spent $374,762. Jobs were also saved in the 16th, 34th, 37th and 41st Congressional Districts in Maryland.

I don’t if I am surprised more by how well the Stimulus bill is working or the fact that Maryland had more than 40 Congressional Districts. Somehow, we have been robbed of a lot of Electoral Votes over the years….

As I said, this is happening all over the country. Powerline has the good news from their home state of Minnesota and links to numerous other states that not only are saving jobs, but have much larger Congressional Delegations than they thought they ever had….

Posted by Dave at 10:26 pm
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273 Responses to “Saving Jobs All Over Maryland”

  1. Chekote says:

    First!

  2. Redgill says:

    Next

  3. rdelbov says:

    How about TN??

    I am too lazy to check. I have my job of sorts since I am selfemployed.

    I guess its possible that my job has been saved by Obamanomics but perhaps its been unreported. It could have been saved without me knowing it.

  4. rdelbov says:

    One person note. Senator Tom Coburn may be saving many jobs in DC. He apparently will be requiring the US senate to read all 2000 pages of the Obamacare healthplan. Can you imagine the temps that will be required to read these pages??

    Other then that news there has been no healthcare news of note.

    No bill has been produced by Reid and no bill has been scored by CBO

  5. Erich says:

    Hey! I live in the 40th Congressional District! I resent the fact you claim we don’t exist! :-P

  6. Tim V says:

    if anyone wants to discuss gay maariage, drop on by

    it’s at the top thread ( currently )

    http://www.rightpundits.com/

  7. Polaris says:

    Hey,

    It’s all good. Obama pretends to save jobs in districts that he pretends actually exist.

    [However, mark my words that when 2012 rolls around all these 'districts' will materialize with votes....all overwhelmly for Obama of course.]

    -Polaris

  8. Polaris says:

    #7 Hardly. If anything Obama hasn’t been hard enough on Iran.

    The world needs Iran with nuclear missiles, like it needs a whole in the head.

    -Polaris

  9. Wes says:

    This invalid clown is really getting annoying.

  10. invalid11 says:

    AMCON Magazine is one of the best Conservative sites going right. I’ve heard a few of their editors go on antiwar radio, and they all give great interviews.

  11. Polaris says:

    #11 This post best explains why the Pauliacs need to be read out of the party (like the Birchers were thirty years ago).

    -Polaris

  12. invalid11 says:

    #13
    Antiwar is a Libertarian\Conservative site. Their ENC worked for Buchanan in both of his campaigns.

    Why not read the Neoconservatives out of the movement instead of the Paul people?

    AMCON is talking about getting together a new X-Street group that is lobbyist group for American foreign policy to compete with some of these foreign groups that lobby for stuff like the Iran war.

  13. Polaris says:

    #13 Listen to yourself. Buchanon is not the sort of person that conservatives (libetarian or otherwise) need to hold up as their standardbearor. Pat is a paleoconservative and very much part of the elite beltway crowd these days.

    In short, he (like the Pauliacs) are badly out of touch with the rest of the GOP and frankly fringers at best….as are you.

    -Polaris

  14. invalid11 says:

    #14

    Heh, Buchanan won NH, and lost Iowa by 2%.

    He was not that out of touch. I think he was a little out of touch on social and economic policies, but he has always been pretty good on foreign policy.

    Roon Paul is better of course.

  15. Polaris says:

    The very fact that you think the Dems and GOP are both lobbying for an Iran war tells me just how nutty you really are.

    Seriously, wake up and smell the coffee. The LAST thing the Dems want right now is another messy foreign war. Of course their brain-dead policies in the middle east may yet wind themselves up with a war with Iran by accident (which is how a lot of wars happen), but don’t think that there is a huge lobbying effort for it.

    [That said there are groups that quite rationally think that if we're going to have to smack down Iran, it's better to do it now than later. I happen to think that way myself....but I want to make absolutely sure that war IS in fact the rational decision and the price is ready and able to be paid....both in treasure and blood.]

    War is absolutely a valid form of foreign policy (to extend Gen Clauswitz’s paradigm in “On War”)

    -Polaris

  16. Polaris says:

    #15 That was then and this is now. Pat put himself beyond the pale in 2000 when he ran on the UWS (Reform) ticket [Perot's old party] and by the way he campaigned. He is definately a Paleoconservative at best and a fringer now and no longer should be considered mainstream GOP.

    -Polaris

  17. invalid11 says:

    #17

    So you only vote for candidate considered “Mainstream?” How exactly do we determine who qualifies as that?

    The key is to help a candidate like Ron Paul win Iowa or NH so that he can get control of the party machinery. That makes a movement mainstream very quickly as occurred with Goldwater and Reagan.

  18. Polaris says:

    #18 Ron Paul’s own ideas put him firmly outside the mainstream.

    If you need me to explain why, then you really don’t have a clue as to what mainstream conservatives (or libetarians) think and really should have your own party.

    -Polaris

  19. wylie e. coyote - super genius says:

    Here is a bit happier article – it simply exposes liberal for the self-rightous demogouges they are despite the repeated historical examples of the failure of their stale collectivist ideas:

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/15/the-essential-fusion/

    “This increasingly stale series of fresh starts is not merely a cynical attempt to keep the population from challenging liberal ideas, by exploiting the case of historical amnesia it gained by slamming its collective head into the public school system. Confronted with the grim history of their ideology, most liberals will say it doesn’t matter if their ideas are efficient, because there is a moral imperative to follow them, and all opposition to them is fundamentally immoral. It doesn’t matter that liberalism doesn’t work, because it’s the right thing to do… the only right thing to do.”

  20. invalid11 says:

    #19

    You don’t get to define what Libertarian think. They’re a pretty diverse group who generally can’t even agree among themselves as to what defines them.

    But I doubt any of them voted for McCain!

  21. Polaris says:

    #21 I didn’t define them, but you tried to redefine the norm by suggesting that Ron Paul fit within mainstream conservative and libetarian thought.

    He does not.

    Frankly right now the Libetarian Party doesn’t fit within mainstream libetarian thought (have to stop nominating kooks) which is why libetarians tend to vote center-right which usually means republican….note the word USUALLY.

    As for McCain, McCain had a lot of libetarian and fi-con support. It was the socon part of the party that was lukewarm (at best) towards McCain. It is also totally irrelevant!

    Sen McCain is no longer a politically viable national figure which makes your apparent obession with him suspect at best.

    -Polaris

  22. wylie e. coyote - super genius says:

    Is anyone else sick of hearing about Sarah Palin?

    I know she is a solid conservative and “exciting” to the base and all….

    But geeshh, with all the coverage on fox, Oprah, etc its been a bit much with the book and all….

    Of course, she can keeping sending those facebook messages skewering CrappyCare lol – those are great

  23. Polaris says:

    #23 Given how badly she got trashed last year, at this point any publicity for Gov Palin is good publicity.

    I will also make this observation: Gov Palin has been charming, persuasive, and very, very politically adept when running things on her own since she left the governor’s mansion. This is in direct contrast to her image during last year’s campaign.

    This contrasts indicates to me that Palin’s complaints about being lied to and mishanded by McCain’s staffers may hold a lot of truth behind them.

    -Polaris

  24. wylie e. coyote - super genius says:

    #24 All true what you say….

    I guess that I just hate the whole media “soap opera” thing….which is what the focus is right now….

    evidently, at least according to Rush L., her book also contains a great amount of conservative philoshopy and policy….should be interesting….

    At she continues to be the most effective statement against CrappyCare….

  25. invalid11 says:

    “I didn’t define them, but you tried to redefine the norm by suggesting that Ron Paul fit within mainstream conservative and libertarian thought.”

    Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988. They choice him to represent them. The Libertarian Party also offered Ron Paul their nomination this last go around in 2008 if had wanted it as did the Constitution Party theirs. He doesn’t really believe in third parties anymore but instead focuses on the republican primary, which makes more sense anyway.

    Since you voted for McCain, why would libertarians think what you think is important anyway as to what they should think?

  26. invalid11 says:

    chose

  27. Polaris says:

    #26 The Libetarian Party ALSO nominated Bednarik who is by any definition a raving lunatic (even many registered Libetarians admit this!) and as long as the Libetarian Party is willing to nominate fringer loons like Bednarik and Ron Paul, they won’t amount to much.

    That’s why most libetarians tend to work within the two major political parties (usually but not always the republican party).

    -Polaris

  28. Polaris says:

    I don’t have to chose arcuso. The Libetarian Party doesn’t even represent most libetarians! The nomination of Bednarik made that perfectly clear.

    -Polaris

  29. invalid11 says:

    #29

    I agree to an extent. I thought Chuck Baldwin was a better candidate than Bob Barr and more Libertarian.

    That’s why I voted Constitution Party.

  30. wylie e. coyote - super genius says:

    #28 Didnt the Libertarians nominate Bob Barr in 2008?

  31. invalid11 says:

    Good night

  32. wylie e. coyote - super genius says:

    If we can’t go to war with Iran can we just let the Isrealis bomb their nuKleelar faclities back to the stone age lol

  33. Polaris says:

    #31 You’re right, they did. I was thinking of 2004 but Bob Barr is also a lunatic fringer as well.

    Ron Paul working within the GOP (tatically) is the one thing I agree with him on. The problem is Ron Paul is himself on the lunatic fringe and hurts the party he claims to be a part of.

    As such (as with the Birchers), I wish the GOP would read him out of the party.

    -Polaris

  34. wylie e. coyote - super genius says:

    #34 Well Lindsey Graham is reading “angry white males” out of the party….may be that is a start as Paul is old, white, and appears to be angry alot of the time…..Ron Paul to the democrats for Jim Traficant lol

    Here is an interesting article about the left’s favorite “deranged mass murder (not terrorist)” and the PC cultural that let him thrive:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/16/todays_pc_army_99172.html

  35. Tommy_Boy says:

    Polaris,

    What’d you think about the Oprah interview?

  36. Tim V says:

    Is anyone else sick of hearing about Sarah Palin?

    coyote

    About as sick of hearing about Sarah Palin as I am sick of scanning your LONG and REPETITIVE posts about Obamacare and MANDATES.

    but hey, I still love both Sarah and the Coyote :)

  37. Tim V says:

    did you watch it tommy ?

  38. Tim V says:

    anyone who watched it, what did ya think ( besides chekote ) ?

  39. Tommy_Boy says:

    #38 Yes. I thought she was great of course. Hell, Trolletta thought Palin did very well, hahaha.

  40. KnightHawk says:

    I just got around to watching it.
    It went better then her last highly public interview, she did no harm to herself, and it will probably help her sell some books to the middle of the road females. Beyond that, I didn’t learn anything, not that I expected too, it’s oprah not the mclaughlin group.

    Next up is wawa no?

    49 – In the other thread, Wes how would you realitic test it “on a small scale”, course we’re both dreaming anyway. Don’t disagree about Thune (20somthing in the other thread), but lets have him put his reelection to bed first.

  41. Wes says:

    The more I read posts by this invalid moron, the more I wish to God we had an ignore option on this blog.

  42. KnightHawk says:

    42 – Hey I warned you guys about giving him any sort of attention. ;)

  43. Charles says:

    she came across as a regular person, which is exactly what she needed to do. As people grow more angry and distrustful of everything and one that is in Washington, they will start supporting anyone they perceive and believe, acts like them and has their voice.

  44. Tim V says:

    I’m sorry, I am just starting to get caught up with previous threads.

    #16 Look in a mirror tough guy. The people I am talkinga about know who they are and they know how I feel about it. I’ve posted here for years…unlike you tough guy.

    -Polaris

    Comment by Polaris

    Polaris, Do you consider me to be a theo-con ?

  45. Charles says:

    Ziegler I meant, early morning typo.

  46. Tim V says:

    ok, apparently THIS is polaris’ definition of a theo con

    #17 If you agree with the statement that laws should enforce morality, then I was referring to you when I talked about authoritarian theocons.

    Moreoever, those that wanted the Feds to get involved in the Shiavo matter (which was a sad individual family matter ultimately), then I al also talking to you.

    -Polaris

  47. Tim V says:

    Until she declares that she is running for office, I will hold my fire.

    Comment by Chekote — November 15, 2009 @ 11:21 pm

    yeah right. that will be the day. you can’t help it. you lack self control.

    you will trash palin again SOON. BANK ON IT.

  48. Tim V says:

    Who is it that wants a religion-based dictatorship in place of the republic our founders established?

    Who?

    Because that is who “authoritarian theo-cons” are.

    Now, you say I am one? Explain what you have read me say that leads to this conclusion.

    I think your statement is ridiculous.

    Comment by rightwingyaho

    RWY is RIGHT. The term theo-con should be reserved that want a Theocracy. Polaris does not have the RIGHT to make up his own definition of words that are already clearly defined.

  49. Tim V says:

    #24 RWY actually the very philosophy that made the federal intervention in a STATE and LOCAL matter possible is the SAME mindset that leads to a theocratic dictatorship.-polaris

    BULLSHIT

  50. Tim V says:

    FOLLOWED BY MORE BS

    In any event, your own responses do indicate that you’d be happy with a church state and thus are indeed one of the people I am talking to.- pOLARIS

  51. Tim V says:

    You also are foolish.- Polaris.

    I have read enough of the debate at this point to draw my own conclusion and it this. The term theo-con is a term created by people you will find at the daily kos. it is meant to be an insult by making a false comparison to groups such as the iranian government and taliban which is controlled by religious fanatics that impose their interpretation of islam on the people. christianity is the exact OPPOSITE. chrisitainity when properly interpreted leads to a republican for of government and a seperation of church and state. this seperation is supposed to mean that the government is to NOT interfere in religious practices of the citizens. it further means that no religion will ever be FORCED on the citizens.

    Polaris is an atheist and therefore is lacking in knowledge about what christianity is and is not.

    Much as I appreciate all of his previous contributions and generally logical and reasoned posts, in this case he is just plain wrong. he should apologize for using this bigoted slur ( theo-cons ).

  52. JB says:

    Colorado has 12 more districts that I knew of and four of these phantom districts had a total of 36 jobs created or saved. I like the fantasy world this administration is living in – when will we be permitted to escape harsh reality and join the party?
    http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/TextView.aspx?data=stateSummaryAllCD&statecode=CO

  53. Tim V says:

    give em hell pat

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/11/17/are_we_at_war_or_not.html

    khm should be tried by a military tribunal-end of story

  54. jason says:

    “The key is to help a candidate like Ron Paul win Iowa or NH so that he can get control of the party machinery.”

    Ha, ha, ha, ha….I hate the smell of raving lunacy in the AM…..

    When you read posts like that you really understand the appeal of Ron Paul…nutcases are attracted to nutcases…

    The only party machinery Ron Paul will ever get control of is maybe a soap bubble maker at the insane asylum when they will let him out of a straight jacket on his birthday.

  55. Tina says:

    I only caught a glimpse of her on Oprah throgh Greta’s program. No time to watch much yesterday evening unfortunately. Glad that her nook is selling well.

    The mediaconartists, the pseudocons, and the beltway Rinos seem to be upset, so that is all Good News.

  56. Tina says:

    The Vice Dummy is/was responsible for “counting” the jobs created/saved.

    LOL

  57. Tina says:

    nook = book, its way to early my time.

  58. MDefl says:

    Tim V,

    Why the anger? Serenity now. Repeat that 1000 times and you will be OK.

    3 meetings today and a conference call, which will take place while I am on my way to the airport. I am in Halifax, Nova Scotia today. One can see the Irish influience all over the place.

  59. MDefl says:

    People feed invalid and them complain about him. Same with ?. Stop feeding and they will either go away or modify their behavior. So far, they have not had the need to bother doing either since they are fed well here.

    I am not for bamning either of them. Free speech is free speech. I am free to completely ignore both and that is what I will do.

  60. Tim V says:

    not angry Md. not at all my friend. just calling a bigot a bigot.

  61. Tim V says:

    i like polaris, in this case he was wrong and should apologize.

    i doubt that he will. he has too much pride to admit it when he is wrong.

  62. MDefl says:

    Sorry for the spelling issues. I am on the bberry, which does not allow me to go back and change things once they are entered.

    That is only an issue I have at HHR.

  63. MDefl says:

    For the record TimV, I agree with you on this issue. I just think your rhetoric and language was a little over the top.

  64. MDefl says:

    I also do NOT think that Polaris is a bigot. I just read that post.

    Again, I think we need to step back and stop with the name calling, on all sides.

  65. Tim V says:

    I’m just tired of hearing the word “theo-cons.”No Christian that I have ever met has indicated ANY desire for the United States to establish a Theocracy. So Polaris and Chekote and people at the Daily Kos are LIARS and I am calling them on it.

    Polaris and Chekote do not get to make up their own definition of what a theocracy is.

  66. Tim V says:

    a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance= BIGOT

    when it comes to Christians that care about social issues then Polaris is indeed a bigot.

    Words have meaning. Which word am I using incorrectly? theocracy or bigot ?

  67. Tim V says:

    I have complimented Polaris many times. I , like Chekote, have a right to MY opinion too.

  68. Tina says:

    Ok, what is wrong with what Polaris said, I have to do a bit of catch up. I do not agrree that Polaris is a bigot either, Tim V. Take a step back and cool down a bit, friend. I do not like that word choice, nor did I like the word, the Church of Socialism (catholic church) weeks ago.

  69. Tim V says:

    no one likes to be called a bigot. i don’t like the word myself. look how everyone here reacted when they thought knova had called them bigots.

    but i’m sick and tired of the left wing LIE about who they in a bigoted way call social conservatives that are Christians.

  70. Tim V says:

    polaris is a good guy, he just thinks he has a right to define the term “theo-cons” in a way that he wants to. that is the issue. it is an issue of semantics.

  71. Tim V says:

    I am not angry at polaris, i am angry at the left wing for lying about those on the right that want to fight their agenda of gay marriage and abortion on demand by using a slur- the word that they made up- “theo-cons”

  72. MDefl says:

    Tim,

    There is enough blame to spread around. All I am saying is let’s take a deep breath and relax a little.

    Polaris and you agree on 95% of the issues. I agree with you on the theo-con issue bit still reject the idea that he is a bigot.

  73. Tim V says:

    mike, this will be my last post on the subject today. forget about polaris. polaris is not the issue. the issue is that we have quietly let the left get away with a tactic that seperates the natural UNITY of libertarians and christian conservatives.

    how do they do it ? they scare libertarians with talk of a “theocracy”

    talk of a theocracy is absurd. but if you begin to view christians with the same amount of distrust as you do radical islamic terrorists, then who wins ?

    the democrats and the progressives.

    who loses? the republicans and the libertarians.

    does that make sense ?

  74. Rudy says:

    Thune named dark horse of 2012 GOP race…

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/gop_dark_horses/

  75. Tim V says:

    new topic

    get your oba mao t-shirt

    they sell like hot cakes in china

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/11/16/chinese-detain-cnn-reporter-holding-oba-mao-t-shirt-tv

    no wonder anita dunn had to get under the bus

  76. Tim V says:

    GM to investors- great news, we only lost a billion last quarter

  77. Tim V says:

    doug hoffman channels his inner bush adding new word to the english language- “unconcede”

    i guess he “misunderestimated” his chances of winning

  78. Phil says:

    Tim V, yeah, I saw that. AP headline made it sound like wonderful news.

    Sheesh

  79. Rudy says:

    Hoffman had terrible campaign advisers. Its highly unlikely that he won but not impossible. And his campaign advisers told him to throw in the towel so that he didn’t look like a bad sport.

  80. Brutus says:

    #81

    That’s the problem, demorats don’t mind looking like sore losers.

  81. jason says:

    “not angry Md. not at all my friend. just calling a bigot a bigot.”

    Polaris is not a bigot.

    Also “theocon” is not a slur.

    Wikipedia describes is as

    “theocon is a term sometimes used in United States political rhetoric to describe a person whose conservative ideology includes a belief that religion should play a major role in forming public policy.”

    It’s hardly deserving on any apology.

    And Theocons are hardly in bad company…according to Wikipedia..

    “The current Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, is also tied to the theoconservative movement”

  82. jason says:

    “Polaris and Chekote do not get to make up their own definition of what a theocracy is.”

    Neither do you. You seem to be the only one who is making up your own definition and then pretending to be offended by your own definition.
    nd you don’t like it fine, demand an apology. But nothing wrong with

  83. jason says:

    with the word itself.

  84. jason says:

    I meant to say if someone calls YOU a theocon and you don’t like it demand an apology. But this “slur” thing is over the top.

  85. MDefl says:

    75

    Yes.

  86. MDefl says:

    Good first meeting. Hopefully, my next 2 go as well. The conference call is setting up to be an absolute Bear. It could get ugly.

  87. Howard Dean 1/20/13 says:

    The worst is yet to come: Unemployed Americans should hunker down for more job losses

    BY Nouriel Roubini

    Sunday, November 15th 2009, 4:00 AM

  88. Howard Dean 1/20/13 says:

    Gun sales shoot up amid America’s fear of rising crime and terrorism

    Alexandra Frean, US Business Correspondent

    Personally, I think there’s another reason…

  89. MDefl says:

    I agree HD. Terrorism is not the only reason. But hey, the military is going to save us.

    And I have some swamp land in Jersey that I would like to sell you.

  90. bio mom says:

    WaPo/ABC poll has Obama +56 with a Dem +14 sampling. Why do people like Geraghty at NRO just report on this without any questioning of its validity?

  91. MDefl says:

    Demonizing the media who don’t fall in lockstep – “not a real news agency”. Firing gov workers from an opposing party en masse.

    Venzeula or The United States?

    How about both.

  92. Chekote says:

    If we can’t go to war with Iran can we just let the Isrealis bomb their nuKleelar faclities back to the stone age

    It is not that easy. Iran doesn’t just have one site. It has several sites. Sunday my group met with a former Bush official, she said that Obama is not even pushing for sanctions. There is real concern on how Obama would react should the Israeli strike Iran.

  93. Phil says:

    Howard, the MSM polls are beyond a joke. And yeah, guns are flying off the shelves for the reasons you are thinking of. Get your guns while you can.

  94. Howard Dean 1/20/13 says:

    Not only is it Dem +14 it’s also ADULTS.

    They are criminal.

  95. MDefl says:

    +14 – how can anyone even take them seriously?

    Let’s make it, hopefully, to the mids and send a message.

  96. rdelbov says:

    I said for months now -welcome to our 10% world where one of ten americans are unemployed.

    I just hope we still under 11%.

    This is the most anti business adminstration since Truman. Even worse then Carter or Clinton.

  97. MDefl says:

    A D+5 would give Hussein a +47 or 48. Can’t have that!

    Typical rescue poll. This time next montb, they will have to have a D+17 sample.

  98. Chekote says:

    she came across as a regular person, which is exactly what she needed to do.

    I don’t know of ANY point when Palin didn’t come across as a regular person.

  99. Phil says:

    Chek,
    Good point. Does anyone here believe Obama wouldn’t strongly condemn and issue some sort of sanctions against Israel after an Israeli attack on Iran? Anyone?

    It would be a great opportunity for Obama to further demonstrate to his Muslim buddies around the world his further solidarity.

    Iranians are laughing their butts off – as are the Russians, Chinese Syrians, etc, etc.

  100. D QUIXOTE says:

    I’m just tired of hearing the word “theo-cons.”No Christian that I have ever met has indicated ANY desire for the United States to establish a Theocracy. So Polaris and Chekote and people at the Daily Kos are LIARS and I am calling them on it.~~~ Tim V
    post 67

    Ditto that, your definition is right on.
    theocracy

  101. Phil says:

    PPP hints their polling won’t be good news for Blanche Lincoln….

  102. Judyt2009 says:

    Hey folks I started this great new diet… the Obama diet…it is a brilliant success… I am pleased to report that last week I saved myself from gaining 1,000,000 million pounds…

  103. MDefl says:

    Phil,

    If Israel does what they are going to have to do eventually, Hussein is more likely to call for sanctions against Israel.

    My liberal Jewish friends will still love him!

  104. Phil says:

    MD, sadly you are right on both accounts.

    Israel knows they cannot count on the US with Obama in the White House.

    They are totally alone now.

  105. Chekote says:

    Hussein is more likely to call for sanctions against Israel.

    He won’t be able to. Too much bi-partisan support for Israel in Congress.

  106. Marv says:

    Why is RAS late today?

  107. Brandon says:

    D+14 on an adult sample really isn’t that bad. Now the question is whether they should be using adults at all…

  108. KOS MORON ALERT says:

    110. KOS MORON ALERT!

  109. jason says:

    53% on CBS = 45 maybe

    “President Barack Obama is being greeted warmly in China, but back in the U.S. his overall approval rating has slipped to 53 percent, according to a new CBS News poll.

    A majority of Americans still approve of the way President Barack Obama is handling his job as president, but this percentage is down three points. Fifty-three percent of Americans approve of how he’s handling his job, down from 56 percent last month.

    The president’s approval rating has dropped seven points among independents. Forty-five percent of independents now approve of how the president is handling his job; last month a majority of 52 percent approved.”

  110. Marv says:

    RAS is really late today.

  111. Brandon says:

    #111. Right. Now go away troll.

  112. Phil says:

    I can only imagine the anti semitism that will rear its ugly head after the Israelis hit Iran and gas goes to 4 bucks a gallon – I wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama administration leads it.

    In fact, book it.

  113. Marv says:

    Brandon, aren’t you a RAS Premium member?

  114. Brandon says:

    #116. Yes sir.

  115. Marv says:

    Any mention of today’s poll?

  116. Brandon says:

    #118. No sir.

  117. Brandon says:

    “The Missouri Senate race, where we’ll release numbers tomorrow, is a great prism into the current political climate.

    44% of independents in the state have an unfavorable opinion of Roy Blunt to just 23% viewing him favorably. Robin Carnahan also has poor, but somewhat better, numbers with that group- 40% have an unfavorable opinion of her with 33% holding a positive take.

    The fact that both candidates are unpopular with independents is a clue to the enmity voters are feeling toward politicians of all stripes right now, but with Carnahan’s net favorability with independents coming out at -7 to Blunt’s -21 you would expect her to have a solid race in the horse race with that group, right?

    Wrong. Blunt leads 44-32 with independents even though only 23% like him. His vote share nearly doubles his favorability!

    This is another example of something I wrote about last weekend- voters who dislike both parties or in this case both politicians are leaning toward the party out of power because they at least see it as an alternative to the status quo. A big part of the Democratic message next year is going to have to be reminding voters why they hated the Republicans being in power so much and convincing them the alternative is worse.”

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/missouri-preview.html

  118. Hellbelly says:

    RAS was late yesterday as well….do they have a new release time for daily approval poll?

  119. Sean says:

    An outlier should be falling off today in RAS….

  120. Marv says:

    It’s either a technical malfunction or the data skewed so far that they need to double check. IMO.

  121. Brandon says:

    Or the person that normally posts it didn’t show up for work today.

  122. KnightHawk says:

    Obama has no interest in preventing a nuclear Iran.

  123. MDefl says:

    Brandon,

    Blunt’s couldn’t have anything to do with Hussein? The White House and its’ press org, AKA, the msm, already told us that NJ and VA had nothing to do with Obama.

  124. Marv says:

    Brandon,

    I’m going to do like your English teacher would do and remind you that the phrase should be “person who”.

  125. MDefl says:

    Blunt’s lead.

  126. Gary Maxwell says:

    I see Jensen is up to his usual spin. Why would independent voters, who were sold a bipartisan pitch by Obama and then they see a hard left dash, be susceptible to another pitch, which would have to be a Blame Bush strategy. That dog wont hunt Jim. And PPP, especially when they are way out from elections date, do take some liberties with samples and the spin from Tom is always a brighter day is coming for Democrats.

  127. MDefl says:

    Nothing to see folks. Move along and assimilate.

  128. MDefl says:

    131

    That is as surprising as telling me that the sky is blue and Rosie ODonnell is fat.

  129. Tim V says:

    POLL

    Who has been the biggest THORN in the President’s side since he became President ?

    Cast your vote :

    Palin
    Beck
    Rush
    Malkin
    Bachman
    Drudge
    Dick Armey
    Hannity
    Cheney
    Levin
    or, someone I neglected to mention

    ???

  130. Brandon says:

    It’s pretty obvious that Independents definitely will lean towards the GOP this year even if the GOP has bad candidates(like Blunt). It doesn’t have much to do with the GOP(as people still hate them), as much as it is that they want a check on the power of Democrats.

  131. Phil says:

    29/51

    Better than I thought but still lousy numbers for Barry.

    When this trial becomes a three ring circus, Obama will look like the fool that he is.

    Must be pretty important to Obama and Holder to see the Bush administration on trial for them to take this gamble. Tells you all you need to know about who Obama is.

  132. Tim V says:

    That is as surprising as telling me that the sky is blue,Rosie ODonnell is fat,
    Obama’s a rat (not a physical one)
    and that is that.

  133. D QUIXOTE says:

    His wife

  134. Phil says:

    #134

    Drudge

    He’s really stepped up.

  135. Chekote says:

    Obama has no interest in preventing a nuclear Iran.

    The Bush official seems to think that Obama wants a nuclear free Middle East. That means, he will push for Israel to get rid of his nukes.

  136. Chekote says:

    Sorry, “its” nukes.

  137. Brandon says:

    Since Tommy isn’t here I will have to fill in, Palin on GMA:

    http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/11/governor-palins-interview-with-barbara.html

  138. Judyt2009 says:

    #134 – Unapologetic America defending, freedom loving, independent minded, suspicious of government or too much government, entrepreneurial motivated, troop supporters, fiscally prudent, awakening Americans are the biggest thorn in Obama’s side since become POTUS.

  139. D QUIXOTE says:

    # 134~~~All of thoe who haven’t yet swallowed the kool aid.

  140. Phil says:

    AP

    Iran says UN has cleared its nuclear program.

  141. D QUIXOTE says:

    Iran says UN has cleared its nuclear program.~~phil

    Israeli air force flight nukem 1, cleared for takeoff.

  142. Judyt2009 says:

    #134 — it isn’t just one person who is unsetting the Obama bandwagon… but all of those people who, regardless of the reason they jumped on, have come to realize their mistake and are gearing up to throw Obama under his own bus.

  143. DrJay says:

    #134 CBO and BLS

  144. Tommy_Boy says:

    Why is Ras late?

    In the meantime, SurveyUSA released some Palin polling data.

    She’s got a better net in terms of favorables in Fresno and Louisville than Obama. Obama won both cities and Louisville by over 11%.

  145. Chekote says:

    Iran is clearly emboldened by Obama’s weakness.

  146. Brandon says:

    #149. And Obama beats her by 20 points on who do you respect more, and 61% say they don’t want her to run for president.

  147. Chekote says:

    #151

    Stop the Palin bashing Brandon.

  148. Tommy_Boy says:

    #151 He’s the President. Who wouldn’t respect the President more? It’s a weird question by SurveyUSA. Why not ask who you would vote for?

    C’mon man, you don’t think it’s somewhat stunning that her favorables in terms of net favorability are higher than Obama’s in two counties he won, with one being a Kerry/Obama county?

  149. D QUIXOTE says:

    Thune/Pence for POTUS 2012

  150. Brandon says:

    I think it’s stunning how so many people there are “neutral.” I don’t know why SUSA include both that and “no opinion”.

  151. Tommy_Boy says:

    By the way, it doesn’t look so good for Romney in the polling. If he’s tied with Palin in Fresno and Louisville with Huckabee in the race, that looks pretty hard for him to win a city like Fresno or Louisville if one of the two doesn’t run.

  152. Polaris says:

    Tim V,

    I stand by everything I said in that thread including the term Theo-con. If you read my original post in that thread (#15), I was actually VERY MILD. It was MFG and RWY that seemed to want to pick a fight.

    Fine. They hit me and then they hit the floor.

    I used the term Theocon AS it is commonly defined, i.e. those that want to put religious values and drives into our system of govt.

    If you fit the definition, then deal with it. I will not apologize for the use of the term.

    In short, Tim V, on this issue, go suck an egg.

    -Polaris

  153. Phil says:

    John Thune baby!

  154. Tommy_Boy says:

    As for the “don’t want her to run for president” question, wouldn’t anyone score poorly on this question? Aren’t people’s natural inclination to answer no for just about anyone?

  155. Polaris says:

    Tim V,

    Bottom line: I have nothing to apologize for (to the contrary I think), and nothing I said in that thread or any other was bigoted…and I believe that any neutral fair minded person that reads what I wrote would agree.

    -Polaris

  156. Gary Maxwell says:

    the GOP(as people still hate them)

    Dont believe everything you are told on the evening news or by Tom Jensen.

    Bush left office hugely unpopular, he could not have gotten down into the 30s without a fair amount of Republicans and Republican leaning Indys down on you.

    The Republican brand was tarnished because the Republicans did not act like Republicans, they acted like Democrats and spent like sailors on shore leave. Fortunately for them, Democrats spend like submarine sailors on shore leave and use someone else’s credit card and tell them its good for them.

    But dont buy the media hype, it was anti Bush and the Democrats lying about their agenda.

    Republicans have an incredible opportunity to build a long lasting coalition. Lets see if they seize it.

  157. Tommy_Boy says:

    So went out and picked up on the book today? Spill some passages.

  158. Brandon says:

    Republicans are still as unpopular as ever, and every objective measure shows that. They are mostly going to win in 2010 because they are NOT Democrats.

  159. Phil says:

    A number of jobs have been created in Arizona 30.

    Damn, imagine how many electoral votes we will pick up in 2012 if we carry Arizona.

  160. Chekote says:

    I just watched the Barbara Walters clip. I think Barbara has really dimished herself by asking Palin to respond to Levi. Among the worst mistakes Palin made is presenting Johnston at the GOP convention.

  161. geauxlsu says:

    Thune 2012!!!!

  162. Gary Maxwell says:

    Is your “objective measure” Tom Jensen?

  163. sam says:

    “Republicans are still as unpopular as ever, and every objective measure shows that. They are mostly going to win in 2010 because they are NOT Democrats.”

    What’s the big deal?

    The same can be said of Democrats winning in 2006 and 2008, that they were NOT Republicans.

  164. Tommy_Boy says:

    Palin is on with Rush later today

  165. Chekote says:

    Republicans are still as unpopular as ever, and every objective measure shows that. They are mostly going to win in 2010 because they are NOT Democrats.

    You are right and it should be a concern for every Republican. Obama and the Dems screwing up might not be enough. I still think that it important for the GOP to reform itself and improve its image.

  166. Polaris says:

    As for the issue itself on how words were redefined, it happens all the time (and often not in the way we’d like). However, the term “theocon” while useful to the left I agree, did not arise in the demented imagination of some Kossak.

    There ARE some in the republican party who would be perfectly happy to use the machinery of the Federal Govt to impose their own religious views and morality often for what they would consider to be the best of reasons and in some cases not understanding/realizing what they were doing.

    This is hardly saying that some are pushing for a total Iran style Theoocracy, but quite frankly this impulse only differs from the Iranian model in degree rather than kind….and I (and I believe most libetarians) would strenously oppose that. I pointed to the case of Teri Schiavo as an example (that still resonates politically even today).

    The FACT that some here seem hyper-sensitive to the issue merely proves the case IMV.

    I am not saying that we should go to war with each other now or snipe at each other (and I blame MFG and RWY for doing so), but to understand that coalitions come with limits. If the socons want to appeal to the libetarian leaning middle, then social issues will have to take the back seat. (Which is not at all the same thing as saying you have to hide them.)

    -Polaris

  167. Brandon says:

    #168. I did not say it was a big deal. But in order to make long term gains, they have to improve their image as well, instead of just relying on the failures of Democrats.

  168. sam says:

    It is the nature of free society, as it is for free markets.

    Both parties will over-reach when they come to power (absolute power corrupts…etc.). Elections provide the corrective mechanism, just like booms and busts provide the mechanism for free economies.

  169. Chekote says:

    but to understand that coalitions come with limits

    However, when a group undercuts your basic argument for limited government the result is that it makes the whole political party/movement look like hypocrites. You lose credibility in the eyes of voters. Again, people will forgive honest mistakes but not hypocrisy.

  170. Polaris says:

    #168 I agree with Sam. Right now with the party so far in the minority, it is sufficient for the GOP to be “not Dem” and as such, the GOP needs to put as much political and idealogical “daylight” between them and the Dems in order to appeal to the dissaffected independant voter. This means the LAST thing the GOP needs to do is “run to the middle” (the Dems had this figured correctly after getting trashed in 2004…laugh if you like but Howard Dean had the correct plan for a Dem resurgance).

    That said, once the GOP gets into a position where they are NOT a super-minority as they are now, THEN the party needs to come up with specific plans of it’s own….but that’s the future not the present. Assuming a GOP congress (or at least house), let the GOP pass alternative measures and DARE Obama to veto them.

    Obama can then come across as an obstructionist (and lose in 2012) or he can move to the right like Clinton did. Either would be good for this country.

    -Polaris

  171. Felix says:

    Brandon is starting to sound like a DNC talking head.

    Brandon thinks polls by Leftist AP and the Washington Post are now the Gold Standard.

    Grow up Jersey B

  172. Felix says:

    The said they same thing about Reagan in 1979 Brandon. A Radical, unelectable, too close to Goldwater.

    Btandon just admit you are a number cruncher with no political acumen.

  173. Brandon says:

    Why? Because I don’t think things are all peachy for the Republican party? Sorry for living in reality.

  174. sam says:

    Johnson overreached, leading to Nixon.

    Nixon overreached, paving the way for Carter.

    Carter screwed up, leading to Reagan. (It seems only Reagan held serve.)

    Bush messed up, leading to Clinton.

    Clinon fatigue set in, leading to Bush.

    Bush fatigue, leading to Obama.

    I see no force that changes the pattern.

  175. Felix says:

    Polaris, the internet age has produced too many young know it alls that have only voted once in their lives.

  176. Polaris says:

    #174 Chek the Dem coalition is also filled with special interest groups that are mutually contradictory (on abortion for example to name one). Right now the reason that Obama and Pelosi are having so many problems is that the moderate-”worker” wing of the Dems does not want to walk the plank for the activist-”student/socialist” left. Unfortunately for the Dems, the “student/socialist” left is nearly immune from being kicked out of office and under Howard Dean have hijacked the machinery of the Dem party.

    My point is that political coalitions do not have to be logically consistant and often are not. It is important for a party in the minority like the GOP to have a consistant national message…and this economy gives the GOP that opportunity especially given how socialist Obama has been.

    -Polaris

  177. D QUIXOTE says:

    The great unwashed regurgitates it’s thoughts.

  178. Felix says:

    Sam, like I said, They going after Palin like they did Reagan.

    They produce Bogus polls because they are scared of her, and then RINOS from the East agree with them.

  179. Polaris says:

    #180

    Exactly Felix, and they KNOW that Bush==Bad and didn’t understand until this year that there were worse fates than Bush.

    These people are too young to remember Carter, so they are now doomed to repeat him.

    It’s quite possible that the GOP will be able to make another inroad in young voters after the Debacle that is Obama.

    Note I said POSSIBLE. It depends on two things:

    1. How badly Obama continues to foul it up.
    2. How well the GOP responds especially in the 2010 and 2012 elections.

    Like sam, I also see politics as basically cyclical.

    -Polaris

  180. sam says:

    Felix,

    I am not worried about Palin. What does not kill her makes her stronger.

  181. D QUIXOTE says:

    Why? Because I don’t think things are all peachy for the Republican party? Sorry for living in reality.

    Comment by Brandon

    A reality that began as reagan was leaving office.

  182. Jim says:

    Re #175–I agree with Polaris that in the present minority circumstances, it is enough for the Republicans to be the “not Democrats” in the same way that Obama was elected because he was more “not George Bush” than McCain was.

    And Polaris is also right about following Howard Dean’s prescription for Demo revival after 2004: at the national level, give voters a clear idea of the differences between the parties, but in individual districts run candidates best suited to that district. Dean went out & deliberately recruited, for instance, moderate or (supposedly) conservative Dems to run in conservative Districts and won enough of them to produce a majority in the House.

    Republicans should follow the same course: Hoffman was best suited to NY-23, for instance (if the idiot local & national so-called leaders had realized it ahead of time), but Christie was best able to win in NY where a much better real conservative like Bret Schundler unfortunately could not.

  183. Brandon says:

    #186. Great. Now try actually to dispute my point.

  184. Polaris says:

    AP Polls == Junk. Seriously, I have yet to see an AP/GfK poll yet that didn’t:

    1. Oversample Dems
    2. Pick bad samples within the sub-groups
    3. Asked questions in a leading way

    -Polaris

  185. Charles says:

    Nobody cares about Thune. Anybody associated with DC is toast.

  186. Polaris says:

    #188 I dont’t think so. I think it was a reminder Brandon, that your perspective might be limited by your age. That’s true with a great many voters out there who forgot (or were too young) to remember Carter and why a socialist president is such a bad idea.

    I just wish the lesson weren’t so expensive for the rest of us.

    -Polaris

  187. Marv says:

    #190 Charles,

    I think that Thune and Pence would be exceptions to the “throw the bums out” movement.

  188. Felix says:

    Brandon is a good kid, but he relies way too much on MSM polling.

    After Reagan lost the GOP primary in 1976 to Ford, the media said Reagan lost because he was too old, too radical, to much like Goldwater, a war monger.

    But then Jimmy Carter came along, and like Obama, he was a disaster.

    In two elections Reagan lost only 6 states, Obama lost 20 in 2008.

    Palin might be a washout, but she sure would have a shot if Obama still keeps Unemployment in Double Digits.

  189. Polaris says:

    #185 Agreed and I wonder if some in the DNC (and MSM) are wondering if Sarah Palin is some sort of Vampire from a horror flick….someone that is supposedly killed with fatal blows time after time, but still somehow survives and even seemly continues to gain strength.

    -Polaris

  190. Tommy_Boy says:

    Recommend the Barbara Walters interview from the link Brandon provided. I like what I heard. Good stuff from Palin.

    Brandon’s point is sound but as Jensen himself notes, part of that reason is because we’re tougher on our own party than dems are on theirs. It doesn’t matter though because the people tough on our party will never vote for the dem because they are conservatives unhappy with the republican. In specific situations, if we nominate a Dede in NY-23, they’ll stay home or vote for the more conservative Democrat but that doesn’t appear to be the case in too many places.

  191. D QUIXOTE says:

    186. Great. Now try actually to dispute my point.

    Comment by Brandon —

    Your “point” is an opinion, a subjective evaluation, not fact in the objective sense. The only refutation is a countervailing opinion.

  192. Brandon says:

    #196. I actually agree about the interview. I think those parts were better than the Oprah interview. Looking forward to seeing the rest.

  193. Felix says:

    Polaris, look at LBJ also.

    In 1964 , Goldwater only won 52 electorals, and the GOP was down to 140 House seats. LBJ was allowed to run again in 1968 and was considered a huge favorite against the awful GOP.

    Then in 1966 the GOP wins 47 House seats, LBJ implodes with Vietnam and Nixon, the unelectable Sarah Palin of his time, wins in 1968.

  194. Tommy_Boy says:

    I wonder why Walters edited out the death panels portion for GMA? I guess we’ll have to watch Nightline or 20/20 to see how Palin explains it. She says Obama is not lying but he’s being disingenous. Surely, Walters doesn’t let that go.

  195. Tommy_Boy says:

    Are we so certain that Goldwater isn’t in a close race with JFK. I read one book noting that JFK’s poll numbers were declining dramatically prior to his death.

  196. Felix says:

    Brandon you have no points. Every post you have is about numbers. You have no theory or experience, you are too young.

  197. KnightHawk says:

    Fox TV Alert: Millions of Americans may have to give back some or all of Obama’s $400-800 tax cuts, due to IRS “glitch”, apparently they were not entitled after all, fox reports those most likely to be effected, those with more than one job, those on SS that had wage income,those silly married people, or households where both spouses work.

    LOL

  198. Felix says:

    Tommy why JFK went to TX, he was warned not too, but he needed that state in 1964.

  199. Brandon says:

    Oh no, the evil statistics!! How dare I use them!

  200. D QUIXOTE says:

    All of this speculation will go for naught, if the 20 million illegal aliens pre registered obama supporters
    are granted amnesty.

  201. Felix says:

    Hawk it is Bush’s fault.

  202. Marv says:

    #205 Brandon,

    You need to get the heck out of NJ and transfer to Texas A&M.

  203. Gary Maxwell says:

    The Republicans disappointed and out of power have no way to demonstrate that they learned from the mistake. Running States at a surplus is one way. And the Texas Republican Party can point to some real financial discipline and as such Texas is light years away from the Prog basket cases of Calif and Michigan, and Oregon and….

    But relying on polls to tell you who is popular is quite foolish. If you have learned nothing else from hanging around here, is that lots of polls start at the results they want to achieve and work backwards ( like I do my tax return! ).

    Republicans would not be +4 in generic Congressional polls if they were “hated”. That is just a inconvenient fact.

  204. Felix says:

    205 Brandon grow up. Numbers are fine, but you use them as the end all.

    During the NJ race you posted the bogus polls from FDU and Rutgers as they were a trend. You were wrong.

  205. Tommy_Boy says:

    Felix,

    Isn’t my point valid though? Has anybody looked into it?

    it’s assumed that goldwater was headed towards a blowout with JFK. But I haven’t read much about JFK being that popular of a president prior to his death.

  206. Brandon says:

    #210. No, I post all polls. Try again. As I stated a million times, the polls I trusted for NJ were SUSA, RAS, and PPP. And guess what? They were all the closest to the result.

  207. Felix says:

    Gary, RAS has the GOP +6, but our friend Brandon would rather take the word of AP or WAPO.

  208. Phil says:

    Transfer to A&M?

    If he can run a 4.4 forty we could sure use him in the secondary. We’re terrible.

  209. Brandon says:

    #213. Will you knock it off please. I have stated a million times which polls I trust, and which ones I do not.

  210. Polaris says:

    #206 No kidding which is why I think 2010 is about our last chance to salvage the US as we know it (assuming we haven’t blown our last chance already) and for us to HAVE that chance, all current GOP members need to stall, stall, stall for 2010 (and the Dems understand this).

    It’s a two part plan for permanent Dem/Liberal Majorities:

    1. A massive increase in govt with Federalized Healthcare putting millions of Americans on the public teet (pushing us over the tippig point).

    2. A massive amnesty program designed to flood the electorate with newly minded Dem/liberal (and grateful) voters (who will promply be put on the govt teet per #1).

    These two things happen, and any opposition to the Dems as we know it ceases to exist politically at least on the national level.

    -Polaris

  211. Chekote says:

    #181

    The Dems all agree that the federal government should play a key role in just about everything. The difference among the various factions is the degree of involvement. You don’t hear any member of the DEM coalition talk about the 10th amendment or states’ rights. The GOP, on the other hand, says it wants a robust federalism and at the same time it pushes for constitutional amendments involving social issues. The GOP says that it doesn’t want the government to mandate procedures and at the same time pushes for federal laws mandating ultrasounds. It comes across as unserious, hypocritical. It is harmful IMO.

  212. Polaris says:

    #215 Why do you trust AP? I’ve seen GfK’s work and I have yet to see them put out a solid poll that withstands critical scrutiny.

    -Polaris

  213. Marv says:

    #214 Phil

    Texas State here.

  214. Chekote says:

    #203

    I saw that yesterday. This is the time to make the case for scrapping the code and going for a flat tax.

  215. Brandon says:

    #218. Who said I trusted AP??

  216. Gary Maxwell says:

    And Corzine is of course Jewish.

  217. wylie e. coyote - patriotic american citizen says:

    #199 Nixon was hardly “unelectable” as he was a couple of hundred dead Chicago voters away from being Prez in 1960….

    Nor do I think that Sarah P is all that “unpopular” – certainly that can be changed very quickly….

    I basically think she is about in the same position as Reagan was in 77/78 but maybe with a bit higher profile due to vast amount of new medida out these days….

    #37 Ooooohhhhh, that hurts lol

    But CrappyCare still bites lol

  218. Marv says:

    Brandon,

    Has RAS produced the weekly Generic Ballot poll yet?

  219. Polaris says:

    #217 Not really. There are Dems that for their own special interests have no problems appealing to the 10th amendment (assisted suicide and legalizing pot in particular).

    The point is, Chek, is to say that the Dems are a LOT less monolithic than you think. They only appear Monolithic because Howard Dean has done a brilliant job of nominating “moderates” in local races but able to hijack the national party (and get his “mderates” to go along) on the national issues.

    The unity, however, is showing cracks and the DNC knows it.

    -Polaris

  220. KnightHawk says:

    “WASHINGTON–The U.S. Federal Reserve may rely principally on the largely untested monetary policy tool of paying interest on bank reserves when the time eventually comes to raise borrowing costs.”
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/government/fed-focus-new-tool-fed-shed-heavy-lifting-exit/

  221. Chekote says:

    #187

    The Dems also made key policy changes such as dropping gun control. Not pushing for across the board tax increases. What policy changes has the GOP made in response to losing it all? I can’t think of any.

  222. Brandon says:

    #225. R+6 this week.

  223. Cory says:

    Brandon, this is the treatment around here when you post something the majority simply doesn’t like.
    They will choose a part of your identity, or more often simply make one up, and use that as reason to reject what you say, no matter how valid.

    I’ve been “tarred” with being Canadian, homosexual, a teenager, a socialist, a communist, a DNC employee, and a terrorist sympathizer. All reasons to reject whatever point I’ve made.
    Or there is the route that Ralph used to take last year, and Felix has taken up this year: simply making up completely bogus previous predictions or statements and attributing them to me.

    I notice you like to bring fact and/or rationality into your posts… it was a matter of time before you started receiving similar treatment.

  224. Marv says:

    Brandon,

    Thanks. Do you have the exact numbers?

  225. Polaris says:

    #228 Gun Control is still part of the Dem platform. They just don’t emphasize it.

    Hmmm…sort of like the GOP and social issues this year.

    -Polaris

  226. Felix says:

    If you asked America in 2005 if a Freshman Sen from IL was electable for POTUS, it would have been about 5% Brandon.

    Anyone can win this far out, including Palin.

  227. Brandon says:

    #231. 44-38…up 41-24 among Indies.

  228. Marv says:

    #230 Cory,

    It’s nothing personal, it’s just that most of us (well, me anyway), don’t believe that major league baseball should have expanded to Canada.

  229. Polaris says:

    #227 Oh crap.

    Chek,

    The Dems have actually been pushing for tax increases (albeit stealth ones). Give the Dems some credit. They know that an open Tax increase (except on the “rich”) is pure political poison in the US (as President Mondale if you doubt), but it won’t be enough.

    One of the largest Tax increases is going to happen on Obama’s watch when the Bush Tax code expires next year.

    -Polaris

  230. Felix says:

    Polaris, we will know if Palin is running in 2012 if she does the 1966 Nixon. If she successfully campaigns for many winning Conservatives in 2010, she is in.

  231. wylie e. coyote - patriotic american citizen says:

    #227 Great, thats exactly what we need lol

    Yes, we need more unelected technocrats with more and more power running the economy!

  232. Marv says:

    #234 Brandon,

    I believe that 44 ties for the all time high for Reps.

  233. Felix says:

    Cory, the Calgary hoser is back.

    How did you do in those By Elections?

    Cory you said Corzine would win big

  234. wylie e. coyote - patriotic american citizen says:

    #230 You never bring rational anything in to a discussion – just bumper stickers and DNC talking points which are useless….

  235. D QUIXOTE says:

    What policy changes has the GOP made in response to losing it all? I can’t think of any.

    Comment by Chekote — November 17, 2009 @ 11:52 am

    You would have us mimic the enemy I suppose. If our
    “policies” are correct, why change them. Better to explain them more clearly to the great unwashed than to become a “me too” party.

    see post 182 ( It is a lost cause anyway when the electorate has this attitude from the gitgo.)

  236. Gary Maxwell says:

    Well I want to proudly state that I dont have Cory sticking up for me, so there is that…

  237. Cory says:

    Good example, Felix.

  238. Felix says:

    Cory, we disagree with Brandon some times, but still respect him.

    Yuo on the other hand are a worthless Canuck

  239. Marv says:

    Polaris,

    Where do you go on election nights?

  240. KnightHawk says:

    236 – Your just absurd!!! Don’t you know it’s not a tax increase, it’s just reversing a tax cut, don’t you see, or at least so says Mrs.Piggy.

  241. Polaris says:

    #246 I work.

    -Polaris

  242. Felix says:

    228. Chekote still the RINO fool.

    Socialism is what the DEMS have proposed you nitwit.

  243. Felix says:

    Wylie, Nixon lost the 1962 CAL Gov Race by double digits and was left for dead.

  244. Polaris says:

    #242 So far I can think of a positive change the GOP has made.

    The GOP has been far less aggressive at pushing some of the social issues this time around. That’s not saying the GOP is hiding them, but the GOP is pushing hard the limited govt/economic distress message.

    That IS a change and it’s working.

    -Polaris

  245. Marv says:

    #248 Polaris

    :-) I know that!!!! What I don’t know is where.

  246. Felix says:

    Obama pushed for Socialized medicing and Chekote talks about how they left Guns alone.

  247. Polaris says:

    #252: Yep (Mona Lisa smile)

    -Polaris

  248. Chekote says:

    #226

    The unity “cracks” you are seeing are due to seniors who are upset about the proposed Medicare cuts to pay for universal HC. Overall, the Dems party agrees on a larger role for the federal government. You don’t have completely opposing rhetoric of wanting the federal government mandating medical procedurea and AT THE SAME TIME proposing legislation to mandate medical procedures.

  249. Chekote says:

    Socialism is what the DEMS have proposed you nitwit.

    Listen, clown. I GREW UP in a socialist country. I know more about it than you ever will.

  250. Polaris says:

    #255 You see plenty of proponents of limited govt when it comes to Assisted Suicide Laws, Legalizing Mary-Jane, Gay Marriage, and other issues, though Chek.

    You lack perspective on this, Chek. Howard Dean has done a tremendous job of papering over the flaws in the Dem coalition to this point to MAKE it seem like the monolith you fear.

    However, what IS true about the Dems (even more than the GOP) is that the radical wing of the party calls all the important shots. All of them.

    -Polaris

  251. KnightHawk says:

    Holder on TV – New task force to go after those who have generated “ill-gotten gains”… whatever, someone told him to change the subject yet again.

  252. Gary Maxwell says:

    Cracks seem to be appearing along Abortions lines, radical eco policy lines, even some cracks in amnesty. And didn’t the Democrat Governor of NY just loudly denounce the terrorist law enforcement policies versus a military tribunal?

    I guess thoes arent cracks and I am imagining them.

  253. Marv says:

    National Security and the War on Terror (KSM NY trial) will re-emerge as 2010 campaign issues. That and a likely still faltering economy are two reasons to expect a conservative/Republican surge at the ballot box. The voters will tend to forget past Republican foibles in the next election. IMO.

  254. Tommy_Boy says:

    Is Eph still banned?

  255. KnightHawk says:

    261 – He’s off on assignment.

  256. Chekote says:

    Give the Dems some credit. They know that an open Tax increase (except on the “rich”) is pure political poison in the US (as President Mondale if you doubt), but it won’t be enough.

    That was my point. They have completely changed their rhetoric and approach. I don’t see the same happening with the GOP. All they are doing is counting on Dems’ failure.

  257. Polaris says:

    #263 Well, I hope you’d agree Chek that counting on the Dems failure is looking like a pretty solid bet at this point.

    -Polaris

  258. Chekote says:

    Polaris

    I don’t fear the Dems. What I fear is that when the GOP gets back in power we will get a repeat performance from the last time they were in power.

  259. Marv says:

    #261 Tommy_Boy,

    MDefl and I sent EPH on special assignment and he has not yet returned. In fact, we think that he went rogue because we can’t find him and he hasn’t made contact with anyone, not even his sources.

  260. Polaris says:

    New Thread Above

  261. D QUIXOTE says:

    I don’t see the same happening with the GOP.
    Comment by Chekote — November 17, 2009 @ 12:09 pm

    The only “change” you want is to drop the abortion angle. If the GOP feels that it’s policies are the correct ones, it would be hypocritical to “change” them just to buy votes.

  262. Chekote says:

    The only “change” you want is to drop the abortion angle.

    The HLA violates federalism. The GOP needs to get its story straight on whether it wants a limited federal government or not. On whether it believes in the 10th amendment or not. I believe everything needs to be put on the table and discussed. EVERYTHING.

  263. D QUIXOTE says:

    Roe v Wade violated the 10th.amend

  264. Chekote says:

    #270

    So does the HLA. Look, you want the GOP to talk out of both sides of its mouth. Fine. But don’t whine when voters call the GOP hypocrite.

  265. Judyt2009 says:

    She’s a one trick pony, nothing is new
    A one track mind, just the same old spew
    And don’t forget she’s got tunnel vision
    For all who disagree she’s got derision
    Oh she’s hard headed with nothing new to say
    Just the same old garbage every day
    Don’t waste your time she will never see
    A one trick pony is all she will ever be

    She’s her one and only
    She’s a big ole phony
    Yep, she’s a one trick pony

    If I hear just one more time
    We must all fall to her line
    I think I just might scream
    She pretends to be something she’s not
    She takes all reason and makes a knot
    Her logic is flawed and absurd
    She twists and turns with each word

    But she is a one trick pony, nothing is new
    A one track mind, just the same old spew
    She’s her one and only
    She’s a big ole phony
    Better listen boys, she’s a one trick pony

  266. D QUIXOTE says:

    Post 272 belongs at BJG on “pithy poetry night”