NY: Cuomo Trounes Paterson, Lazio
Now with Rudy Giuliani out of the race, Andrew Cuomo has a clear path to become the next Governor of New York and, I am sure he hopes, to make up for the failure of his father as a Governor. The new numbers from Marist College.
GOVERNOR – NEW YORK (Marist)
Andrew Cuomo (D) 69%
Rick Lazio (R) 24%Rick Lazio (R) 44%
David Paterson (D-inc) 44%GOVERNOR – NEW YORK – DEM PRIMARY (Marist)
Andrew Cuomo 72%
David Paterson (inc) 21%
This poll was done November 16-17 among 805 registered voters.
First
Tina…first on the thread and first in our hearts!
Thanks, its good that you seem to be arond here more.
Love boat… so exciting and new…
Tina,
I enjoy the politics (without some of the vitriol when folks disagree).
….especially when Conservatives disagree since, at the end of the day, we tend to agree on the big issues.
#4….hey, wasn’t Gopher a GOP congressman?
Yeah, I can’t agree with Tina that Governor Moonbeam would not be worse than Whitman, an extremely successful businesswoman, merely because she is not a social conservative.
When I talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory that is what I mean. California is a blue state, difficult environment for conservatives, why not elect someone who at least knows how to run a mega business instead of an old partisan loony hack like Jerry Brown.
Folks,
Here in the Sunshine State, Rubio will defeat Meeks in the 2010 general election, if he is the Republican nominee. He will flood the voting places with hispanics and neutralize the Democrats in Miami-Dade country. He will win in central and north Florida and will garner about the same percentage overall as did Jeb Bush in his two successful campaigns for Governor.
#5 It nice when people can see the bigger picture.
#6 – LOL
Is there a change to the Senate vote schedule to start Obamacare debate?
KnightHawk,
I’ve improved our seat location for the Navy-HI game. 40 yard line, Navy side, halfway up, aisle seats.
Rand Paul IN to the senate.
John McCain OUT of the senate
That would great.
Marv,
I always thought Jeb Bush would have turned out to be a much stronger president than his brother. Although I feel W. will be regarded by history a heckuva lot kinder than he is now, I always thought Jeb had more intellectual firepower and a well-thought out conservative.
If Lawton Chiles hadn’t scared the living daylights out of the seniors in Florida in the ‘94 election, he would have been the Bush brother viewed as the front runner for ‘00 (by the time he was elected in ‘98 he didn’t have the time to even consider a race in ‘00).
Any thoughts?
#6 – LOL
…..
But he really was!
Rand Paul is a joke. But thanks for the drive-by. Say hi to everyone at loony tunes.
If we listen to Tina’s electoral strategy the GOP will be reduced to a regional party talking to itself. Nothing wrong with Whitman. She is an accomplished woman and who knows she may be able to turn California around.
#14 Hellbelly,
You are correct on each of your points. Jeb was the Bush brother who was thought to be the first of them to have run for president. When Jeb faltered in his 1944 run for governor, W took the lead. Jeb is very popular, still, here in FL. His two sons, Jeb Jr. and George P. are campaigning for Rubio. It is still early, however, my money is on Rubio to win the primary. It will be very hard fought, because the nomination is worth having and the winner will be the odds on favorite to beat Meeks by a safe margin.
NO MORE BUSHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we listen to some of the plants here, they would do away with primary contests.
STAY OUT THE BUSHES!!!!!!!
Jessee Jackson quote
Meeks is a leftist – there is no pretending that he is a moderate, as they did w/ the Obumbler. 2010 is not 2008.
apparently a lot of dems feel Sarah changed the debate on healthcare
Les Liaisons Dangereuses [Robert Costa]
From CBS News:
With Sarah Palin in the spotlight as she continues her nationwide media and book tour, the Democratic National Committee is suggesting to its supporters that the former GOP vice presidential candidate could pose a real threat to the Democratic agenda.
In a fundraising e-mail sent out Friday, Organizing for America — the community organizing component of the DNC founded in the wake of Barack Obama’s inauguration — said it is aiming to raise $500,000 in the next week “to help push back against Sarah Palin and her allies.”
“Right now, Sarah Palin is on a highly publicized, nationwide book tour, attacking President Obama and his plan for health reform at every turn,” says the e-mail, signed by OFA Director Mitch Stewart. “It’s dangerous. Remember, this is the person who coined the term ‘Death Panels’ — and opened the flood gates for months of false attacks by special interests and partisan extremists.”
empires rise and fall<
“Here in the Sunshine State, Rubio will defeat Meeks in the 2010 general election, if he is the Republican nominee. He will flood the voting places with hispanics and neutralize the Democrats in Miami-Dade country. He will win in central and north Florida and will garner about the same percentage overall as did Jeb Bush in his two successful campaigns for Governor.”
Wishful thinking. Rubio is no Jeb Bush. Rubio is an untested, inexperienced amateur playing the big leagues, and being Cuban Hispanic only gets you so far. Many Florida Hispanics are not Cuban, it’s not a foregone conclusion they will vote for him, in fact many Florida Hispanics resent the influence Cubans have. Rubio will unfairly be demonized as a far right extremist and I don’t know if he has what it takes to prevail.
No more plants!!!!
Marv…thanks for that.
Chekote…typically insightful.
#19 Chekote,
If Jeb Bush chose to run against Bill Nelson in 2014, the governor would win and become the state’s junior Senator to Rubio.
The strategy for ?
What does Flim Flam Fraud say.
What does PPP say?
What does Tingles and Overbite say?
I will not support an R that gave $$ to Al Gore – or to his Florida Defense fund – 2000 – RE: the R pretenders in the race.
“If we listen to some of the plants here, they would do away with primary contests.”
Ok I will take the bait. I think we should have primaries, but I also think at this point its worth taking a look beyond just who is the most conservative candidate and consider the general election.
If I am a plant for saying that, so be it.
Well good, at least you do not see folly in having a primary contest. In this particular case, the race between those 2 is definetly closing. Wait and see what happens.
Either one could beat Meeks.
7.Yeah, I can’t agree with Tina that Governor Moonbeam would not be worse than Whitman, an extremely successful businesswoman, merely because she is not a social conservative.
Kindly point to where I said that.
North Dakota Senate (Zogby International/League of American Voters)
John Hoeven (R) 55 %
Byron Dorgan (D) 36 %
Undecided 9 %
Byron Dorgan (D) 60 %
Duane Sand (R) 28 %
Undecided 10 %
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1772
Please Dave, post this Poll.
Hoeven needs to get in – what is his status?
living in florida, there isn’t a chance in hades Meeks wins. He’s a non-starter.
#25 jason,
In 2010, Rubio will correctly paint Meeks as just another attractive African-American socialist. Florida voted for one of those once, and is unlikely to be fooled again. Look for the guilt ridden liberal white voter who just wanted to vote for a black person, (i.e., Obama), to stay home this time and be replaced by big numbers of conservatives and hispanics who want their turn (i.e. payback).
#20
When did I ever advocate eliminating primaries? Who do you support for GOP governor candidate?
#23
They are just trying to get money by appealing to the visceral dislike the Dems have for her. Nothing new. Both parties do it.
It’s the same Poll that had Lincoln only ahead 41-39 over Gilbert Baker.
“Kindly point to where I said that”
I thought in the other thread you said you would not vote if the candidates were Moonbeam vs. Rino.
If I misquoted you I apologize.
And rememober one more thing, on the HC debate – Rush just mentioned that 90 percent of the bills go through – the ones that get 60 votes to “begin the debate…”
Remember that!!!
I do not have a link, but its important to note and further proof that the R party sucks.
You said that I would not vote for a candidate who is not a social con. I never ever said anything like that.
Re-read what I said, and it pertains to what some “Rs” here in Ca did for Al Gore in 2000- Florida.
A tale of two sara’s (a study in where the MSM’s collective heads are at, by Hellbelly):
I was just looking at my Bloomberg terminal and saw these two headlines:
“Sara Ruhl’s Flighty ‘Vibrator Play’ Lives up to its Buzz”
followed by
“Palin ‘Going Rouge’ May not Presage Comeback as Appeal Remains Grassroots”
I’m afraid the cultural divide in this country is widening.
If that were the case, why I am supporting a Rudy run for Governor or SEnate?
Who do you support Tina for governor of CA?
We need Hoeven and Rudy to run…..desperately.
Pick up those seats, plus Dodd’s, Specter’s, Bennett’s (Colo.), Reid’s, Lincoln’s, Biden’s….all feasible…
And before you twist what I said on Fl
I say let it be a debate between the two and the better candidate win the R primary.
Both can beat Meeks, who is too liberal for the state. He is the Obumbler redux with a very liberal voting record.
2008 will not be a repeat of 2010.
I have not answered that question yet, will have to see who wins the primary contest, but will sit home if its big government Rino – an R that supported Al Gore 2000.
I support Tina for Governor of CA.
Ïn 2010, Rubio will correctly paint Meeks as just another attractive African-American socialist.”
Sorry, that SHOULD be the story but it won’t be. The story will be that Rubio is a far rightwing racist with extremist ideas and Meeks will be the Obama of Florida.
That’s the real world of politics.
And as I said in the other thread – Moonbeam is a weak candidate,and is very beatable. Nuissance would have scared me.
But remember, the Ds have all the advantages of a very bad economy – an unpopular Rino Governor – the worst governor in the last 30 years. One can make execuses for the legislature, but it seems to me that he had no principles.
“I support Tina for Governor of CA.”
Where do I send the check?
#50 Darrell
My best guess is that Tina is ineligible to run for the governorship of California. I suspect that her canadidacy would violate the Hatch Act.
Tina,
Unfortunately it’s California. Let’s face it, Schwarzenegger is basically what qualifies as conservative for California on a statewide basis these days. We’re not going to get anything close to ideal.
Senator Meeks?
In this environment?
You are kidding yourself. I’ve seen his voting record.
Tina
The worst Governor in 30 years? Does Grey Davis ring a bell? How about Moonbat himself? Lots of terrible governors, with perhaps Duk and of course Ron Reagan being the two exception all the way back past Earl Warren.
If I were to run for VA_02 next year, to get rid of my blue lap dog…here would be my platform:
If elected, I promise to never once attend a cocktail party in D.C.
If elected, I promise that I would never once give the time of day to anyone in the MSM.
If elected, I promise that every time I pass Democrats in the hallways of Congress, I will sneer at them.
If elected, I promise that I would not listen to any of the GOP leaders who are determined to compromise to achieve consensus.
If elected, I promise to stand on conservative principles and not let my supporters down.
If elected, I promise to maintain an antipathy toward D.C. and big government culture that dominates that place.
That is my platform.
#51 jason
“Sorry, that SHOULD be the story but it won’t be. The story will be that Rubio is a far rightwing racist with extremist ideas and Meeks will be the Obama of Florida.
That’s the real world of politics.”
That is all probably true and will be what causes the defeat of Meeks. Obama is underwater here in Fl. Besides that, how can a hispanic be effectively typed as being a racist?
Yep, the vote on Sat appears to be for the whole bag of marbles. Too bad we will probably get more Americans attending a minor college football game then voicing their opinions are the legislation that will turn us into the “People’s Republik of CrappyIstan”.
In any case, here is another good article that exposes those hypocritics on the left:
http://townhall.com/Common/PrintPage.aspx?g=abfb7234-0346-4e7f-8891-56fca6569b96&t=c
“Who’s Legislating Morality Now?
Andrew Tallman
And when I say states should be free to make laws concerning adultery, homosexual behavior, contraception, or premarital sex, I am accused again of trying to legislate morality.
Yet when Barack Obama and the Democrats propose making it a crime to not carry health insurance, no one seems to notice that they are very aggressively trying to legislate morality.
In fact, the same people who object to my proposed legislations of morality seem to think it’s a wonderful virtue that he wants to do so many “good” things for the poor people who can’t currently get health insurance. And if that plan entails criminalizing the decision to forego such insurance, well, why wouldn’t we fine people or put them in jail for refusing to repent of their obstinate immorality in obstructing such a virtuous social project?”
“but will sit home if its big government Rino – an R that supported Al Gore 2000.”
So my point stands. That position helps Moonbeam since Whitman would need every conservative, moderate and independent vote she could get to beat a Democrat.
Whitman was very successful in the PRIVATE SECTOR. Stands to reason her executive experience in private business would be welcome to the California budget mess.
Joe Lieberman supported Al Gore in 2000 too. He was his VP pick. Yet he supported McCain in 2008. Maybe Whitman can redeem herself.
Best Woman Politics Correspondent: Norah O’Donnell
If Reid cannot get 60 votes tomorrow, notonly is health care dead but Obama is emasculated. That is why, I believe he will get the votes to debate. After that, it will be a crapshoot.
“If elected, I promise to never once attend a cocktail party in D.C.”
I will support you if you give me all the invitations…..8)
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/68893-acorn-received-200000-in-doj-funds-report-says
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/68889-poll-dem-freshman-kratovil-down-by-double-digits
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/68875-durbin-change-tune-on-sen-lincoln
So has Lieberman said he will allow bill to go to debate? I know he’s specifically said he would filibuster on cloture to final vote.
#67, that just means there’s time for her to be “persuaded” by Dingy. She’s voting yes. Bank on it.
Yes
#67 This is a pretty apapt comment on that article: Translation: We haven’t been able to buy her off or threaten her enough yet, but we’re working on it
jason, there isn’t a chance in hell Rubio gets painted as a right-wing racist. Know why? this state isn’t California.
#71, yeah, that’s right on the money.
Explain to me all the tax increases and spending that exceeded Gray Dufus. For 30 years, I meant going back to Moonbeam I.
Blanche will vote yes. If all else fails, they will pull out the brass knuckles, and tell her that she will be doomed anyway, but if she falls on the sword, she will get a prominent cabinet position in Obama’s white house.
#68 Liberman will only filibuster if there is still a government option insurance plan – so what, that is not a key part of the takeover scheme.
They will get much worse entitlements enacted then the government option if any hint of this takeover get thru.
I am doing my calling and faxing to Lincoln’s office today in the faint hope that the fix is not already in…..
But I am afraid it is – another repeat of a staged managed drama like queen nancy’s sat nite massacre – the outcome is not in doubt….
This thing will probably pass before Xmas but without a public option.
I am betting a small chunk of the coyote fortune on Intrade that it will lol
Schwarnkennedy is a disaster.
Biggest spending.
Highest taxes ever.
Highest uneployment race since state records.
Oh, oh, oh, lets give him a third term though.
Gray is better than the Governator? Careful Tina, you seem to be channeling ?
I am praying for the continued health and sanity of a certain 5 supreme court justices as the last chance to uphold Constitutional governmenace in the nation…..
However, that seems like a pretty faint hope as they would have to have stones the size of tomatoes to actually apply the literal meaning of the constitution and protect the right of the indiviudal….
That is probably not real popular under “international” law right now lol
Climate Skeptics See ‘Smoking Gun’ in Researchers’ Leaked E-Mails
Friday, November 20, 2009
Hackers broke into the servers at a prominent British climate research center and leaked years worth of e-mail messages onto the Web, including one with a mysterious reference to a plan to “hide the decline” in data about temperatures.
The Internet is abuzz about the leaked data from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (commonly called Hadley CRU), which has acknowledged the leak of 61MB of confidential data.
Climate change skeptics describe the leaked data as a “smoking gun,” evidence of collusion among climatologists and manipulation of data to support the widely held view that climate change is caused by the actions of mankind. The files were reportedly released on a Russian file-serve by an anonymous poster calling himself “FOIA.”
Yes, he was better. Compare their economic records GM and get back to me.
FOIA Freedom of Information Act LOL
State, local budget cuts a “time bomb” for U.S. jobs
NEW YORK (Reuters) – Budget shortfalls pose a direct threat to millions of U.S. jobs, many in the private sector, as state and local governments lay off workers and cut spending on contracts and other business services, a think tank said on Thursday.
Gray was recalled. Arnold was bad, but how much worse would it have been with Viarosa or even more shades of Gray?
Do you realize that he has grown the state governmment 32% more than the last Dufus Budget.
Do you realize that taxes are higher now than whe took office?
Do you realize that unemployment is over 12 percent – double – or close to it – than when Dufus was in office.
Just because he has an R by his name does not mean that he is “better than the D” or free from fault.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/40977
Here read this – CNS news is conservative.
#83 Gee, radical concept eh?
Downsize government and spend less on it during hard times instead of massively expanding it and spending/taxing more!
“Besides that, how can a hispanic be effectively typed as being a racist?”
Oh, that’s no problem for the MSN.
Here is the MSM view of Sarah Palin the Democrat.
“From working class beginnings overcame barriers to women, broke the glass ceiling. Fought the old boy network and the oil companies and corruption. Popular mayor for 15 years of the growing city of Wasilla. Popular Governor with 80% approval, independent thinker. Loves nature and the outdoors. Resigned to pursue her lifelong dream of making America a better place. Beautiful family, made courageous and admirable decision to raise Down’s syndrome child.”
Here is the MSM view of Sarah Palin the Republican.
“Trailer trash with a career in politics based on her looks. In bed with the oil companies and corrupt special interests. Mayor of podunk backwater town. Unsuccessful stint as Governor marred by scandals, forced to resigned. Wolf killer and turkey torturer. Made stupid and irrational decision to have a Down’s baby, allegedly her own, rumored to actually belong to her promiscuous daughter.”
Believe me, painting Rubio as a racist will be a piece of cake.
Tina
He did not have enough Republicans in the State House to sustain a veto. The Democrats own the budget overruns. I am not an Arnold fan, and dont think he is much of a Republican. But spending like a drunken idiot, almost always is tracked back to a bunch of Democrats. And in the land of fruits and nuts, that is again the case.
Well GM, it takes a 2/3 majority to get a budget here, so he as well as the marxists do get the blame. Anyway, we just have to disagree on who the worst ca governor is in 30 yeas. Regards.
Democrat freshman in Maryland trails his GOP foe:
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/eyeon2010/2009/11/harris-poll-shows-kratovil-dow.html
This can’t be good
Wow, near riots at UCLA over 30% increase in Tuition charges. The DEMS have gone after big tobacco, and big oil, I wonder of they will go after Big Education…oh wait…the universities are their friends.
“Just because he has an R by his name does not mean that he is “better than the D” or free from fault.
Actually yes the Terminator was better than having a Dem gov, its akin to having Obama vs. McCain with a Democratic Congress.
The Dems under the guise of the crisis with no opposition would have done exactly what the are doing at the Federal level.
The theory that it can’t be worse is flawed. Taxes would be even higher and the deficit even greater if Phil Angelides had been elected.
“Piece of cake” huh.
LOL
Rdel:
Seats like these are easy flips.
What Dems should worry about are the ones like Tanner in TN and Barrow in GA.
My current estimate puts about 90-100 Dem seats at risk in 2010, at current conditions.
Chickens are coming home…….
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/20/poll.recession/index.html
91…most had that seat leaning to turn back to GOP anyway. Cook had it a tossup.
“At that rate, only a handful of voters will blame the economy on the Republicans by the time next year’s midterm elections roll around..”
YUP
2010 elections are going to have a single driving issue:
“Do you want to continue on the same path and reward the incumbent party, or do you want to change?”
Not hard to predict which way the worm will turn.
A congressman with a lifetime ADA percentage of 99% is going to paint Rubio as a racist or some sort of extremist? In Florida?
Uh, yeah. One of those Hispanic racists. If it comes from a mainstream congressman like Meek it’s gonna really fly with the voters there.
#92 What do they get for their extra 30%?
More Marxist Underwater Feminism clasees?
A free Che T-shirt?
I mean really, other then increasing the all ready bloated admin and staff salaries what freaking sense does it make to have cost sprialling like this….none, political payoff
Of course, since we preach that you are a loser if you dont have a college shingle to the “youts” we fuel insane demand for it….
And governement intervention in the funding is the biggest cost driver….
I have tons more respect for the man or women who actually goes out in the world and gets their paws dirty build or fix something or probviding a useful service then a trillion commie professors or students graduting with a poetry degree who expect an office job with a 6 fiqure income and a 30 hour work week as a birthright….
We should honor the people who do real work not some snotty college educated pseudo marxist lol
Are Democrats crazy??….
Better read this, Blanche>>>>>>
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2009/11/have_democratic_leaders_gone_m.html
Jason- 88 was spot on on the Palin part
House resolution asks Attorney General to appoint a special counsel to investigate ACORN… Developing…
That is great news HD. They need to kill off ACORN once and for all.
#102 Crazy like a fox lol
They understand that CrappyCare is a long-term “game changer” in that the dependcy it will create will lead to a permeant left of center welfare/nanny state in which all politics/debate will be conducted on terms favorable to them
Too many people on here at HHR and in the media/GOP are viewing this CrappyCare debate and the D agenda in conventional political terms….
WRONG WRONG WRONG – these people are radical leftists with a long term vision and agenda they are relentlessly shoveling down our thorats….
No wonder this guys doesnt get it lol
Sarah Palin appears to be the only figure in opposition to relentlessly point out specific problems with RiedPelosiCare. No one is doing as much heavy lifting on this critical issue as she is. Not only that, but she is effective in doing so. Her book tour is going gangbusters. The thousands of average Americans turning out to see her when she is not a candidate speaks to her appeal nationwide. She is giving the Coastal Elites fits, and that is a very good thing. Anyuway, here is her latest rifle shot from her Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/cancer-screenings-rational-advice-or-rationed-care/178333423434
When Sarah speaks, people listen. There is no denying that.
Wylie,
I agree with the contention that the term Dem Moderate is a misnomer. I do feel, however, that not all Dem Senators are radical leftist dogmatics. Some are, no doubt, but many are just run of the mill jackals more worried about their own political survival.
….and these jackals will be able to read the tea leaves. So, while many in the leadership may me on the same page that you describe, it is not a uniform party in that regard.
They are still, to some extent, the party described by Will Rogers almost 80 years ago: “I do belong to any organized party….I’m a Democrat.”
…and for radical HCR to fail I only need two or three of those jackals to vote for their own survival when it comes to cloture.
of course the quote in #108 is “I do NOT belong, etc. etc.”
surprised Dave doesn’t have a thread yet on that MD_01 poll.
Hoeven needs to get in – what is his status?
Comment by Tina — November 20, 2009
I think Hoeven is gonna wait how this HCR Bill plays out AND I can assure you if Dorgan votes for the Final Version of the Bill Hoeven will jump into this thing and win it.
112…we need him to threaten to run right now to pressure Dorgan. Huckabee needs to do the same in Arkansas.
Was it discussed that David Hamilton was confirmed as a federal appeals judge on Thursday
59-39 with all democrats plus Richard Lugar voting aye. 39 GOP types voted no.
I should mention that Senator Baucus and Byrd did not vote on Thursday.
Baucus’s mom is very ill back in Montana
Byrd was not wheeled in for this vote
Well…its 4:05 here in the east and to (mis)quote Hawkeye Pierce: “I do believe that its about to vodka”
Fun chatting today.
Ciao
The Truth is out there – HT:Jan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA39WxQl5QE&feature=player_embedded
I will go on record right now. If John Thune decides to run and wins the GOP nomination in 2012 he’ll win big. That is assuming of course this nation is still called the United States of America in 2012.
118….looks like everyone else has gone home. I too like Thune.
very interesting article. SEIU Owes Bank amerika
85 million. It also says SEIU could quadruple
their membership if Obama care passes
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/20/ousted-goldman-ceo-and-ousted-nj-governor-jon-corzine-to-head-bank-of-america/#more-33358
Jim Pethokoukis Tweet:
Source: Expect the public option to eventually be dropped from HarryCare.
The American public is going to HATE, HATE, HATE this new medical system if this bill passes. Back in the 90s there was this big push to have HMOs. Supposed to save money and bring down health care costs. Lots of fervid anticipation. And in practice it was a real bust. Americans came to resent the controls on their physician choices, etc. Even though they stayed in existence, most people chose not use them. They will have this new system even more. Half the public has been hoodwinked about this and the other half are having their opinions ignored by the democrats in congress. This will be a huge failure. And to think we could have had some sensible insurance reform ana a safety net for the truly needy uninsured. Instead we get a disaster.
More dirty tricks from Landrieu. Another ethics complaint against her, even though the watchdog group thinks she is a “republican”. These same charges seem to come up every year with her. Before the last election it was taking donations from the owner of a reading program in Washington, DC schools for which she authored a bill to get funded. Why a senator from Louisiana is asking for funds for DC schools was never understood. These complaints seem to go nowhere though. She cries “partisan political attacks” and continues to get elected by the people in this state for some unknown reason. At least Vitter paid a prostitute, didn’t prostitute himself.
Here is the info from a local website:
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint today with the Federal Election Commission against Sen. Mary Landrieu’s campaign committee, Friends of Mary Landrieu, Inc., allegedly regarding “a $25,300 ‘donation’ to the U.S. Treasury made last year” by the campaign. The citizens group, however, identified Landrieu’s political affiliation as “R-La.,” when she is a well-known Blue Dog Democrat.
I drive past a barn on the way to work which originally had a peace symbol painted on it. Later, “NOW” was added under the peace symbol. Before last year’s election, “BAMA” was added after the peace symbol. Today, I noticed “BAMA” was gone. The barn’s owners must be very disappointed with Obama to go through the trouble of removing his name.
People, STOP it with all the panic! Tomorrow is not a big deal. Read the following summary, by Jay Cost — it’s excellent.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2009/11/tomorrows_anticlimax.html
Essentially, he summarizes that tomorrow is just about “Opening” the debate. There’s really no harm in doing that, and at least for Democrats, there’s more risk in not voting for it. The key vote will be on whether or not to “Close the debate” — that can be filibustered, and it likely will. Cost points out that it’s significant that so many Democrat moderates are even skittish on tomorrow’s vote. That makes it all the more likely that they’ll be more skittish on the “Close debate” vote. Cost estimates that there are between 54-56 votes for that second vote, “with Bayh, Landrieu, Lieberman, Lincoln, Nelson, and Pryor all at least a little iffy”. He further hypothesizes that Olympia Snowe may be THE key vote. If Obama can swing her to his side (not likely), she would give the above 6 Dems some “bipartisan cover” and HCR will pass with 61 votes. On the other hand, if Olympia stands fast, Obamacare may well lose all 6 of the above!
So folks, no more insulting posts against Snowe! We NEED her now. I, for one, would be glad to kiss her behind if it will help keep her on board.
#121 — I smell a trigger/opt-out.
Wes.
Do you have any pictures of Olympia Snowe in a revealing thong?
Yes, lets not panic, lets just allow the Rs to go on Thanksgiving break.
#127 Thanks. There goes my appetite for supper.
#128 Tina,
The only time one should panic is in the event of a double engine flame out over the north Pacific in the middle of the night. Most of this stuff is actually just paper work!!!
Depends on what you’re flying.
#121 I have been saying that all along. Drop the Government Option and the HC takeover is passed. That was the deal promised to the insurance companies last spring.
The KOS types and the D liberal/socialist caucus will cry a bit but they will fall in line as its still a takeover and they damm well know it.
The R will be left flat footed as Snowe will then vote yes and they have made the Government Option the focus when they should have been aiming at taking out the Individual Mandate all along.
Jay Cost agrees with me?? Actually I am sure hundreds of would be experts like myself seem a similar scenerio.
In the next few weeks its control that is crucial. Not control of the floor but control of the amendment process.
So a Lieberman-Lincoln-Coburn amendment to remove the public option would be nice.
A Nelson-Casey-Thune amendment to replace Reid’s language with Stupak
Then various amendments to remove taxes, fines and penalties.
Then it comes down to what the democratic will accept when unemployment tops 10.8%
Here is your future in government run HC – not even picture of Olypmpia Snowe in a thong will help you then!:
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=ODBiMzQ4YzJkNjdlMTkyODJlMGUzOGZmZGZhZTAzZGU=
“Medicaid systems also reject claims more than do private insurers. While Humana, the No. 1-ranked national payer, has a 5.3 percent denial rate, No. 7 Medicare Part B spurns 8.7 percent of claims. Among Medicaid systems, No. 1 Illinois denies 9.1 percent of its claims. Medicaid of California’s refusal rate is 19.5 percent, while No. 12 New York’s is 34.1 percent. Fourteenth-rated Florida denies 38.8 percent of Medicaid claims.
Government reimbursements also trail inflation. In 1997, Medicare paid general surgeons $574 for each complex hemorrhoidectomy. In 2008, that procedure paid $390. This is barely half the $770 needed to equal inflation.
“Due to Medicaid’s and Medicare’s low reimbursement values, high denial rates, and delays to reimbursement by the governmental payers, many physicians’ offices are choosing more and more not to accept patients with these payers,” says Dr. Soumi Eachempati, M.D., associate professor of surgery and public health at Manhattan’s Weill Cornell Medical College. Because of these problems and Medicaid and Medicare’s apparent tendency “to hold payments for no apparent reason other than a shortfall of their funds,” Dr. Eachempati says, “myself and many providers are against increasing government intervention in health care.”
#133 How about an amendment to remove the Individual Mandate?
Think that would pass?
Rdel,
You keep mentioning the removal of the public option as a victory. It is not! Are you reading what everyone is typing?
AIN, thanks for the Cost post.
I just cannot trust anything. Two weeks ago Ben Nelson said he would stop floor debate.
Md, i agree. there would still be a massive beaucracy that would lean left
Wylie
I am not too sure. I have suggested over and over again that without the public option Obamacare is basically a scheme to enrich the insurance companies.
Without the public option obamacare has all those horrible mandates plus nasty taxes plus its a scam plan to take medicare benefits from the seniors and disabled folks to give insurance those who do not want it. Without a public option which is a scam that will lead to single payer Obamacare is just lots of pain to provide insurance who many folks who do not want it. Plus the profits goes to HMO’s.
With the way the elections look to be going in 2010 & 2012 this is it for the public option. Do it now or wait to 2021??
Wylie if you throw in Stupak plus no insurance for illegals or even legal immigrants can it pass the house??
I for one is not too sure.
JT,
The triggers would ensure a gov takeover of HC. This plan would limit care and increase costs. The worst of all worlds. Don’t be conned by the bait and switch on an immediate HC option. The Libs will still achieve all of their long-term goals.
This is exactly why this egomanical idiot was not elected president:
“Our amendments will be our alternative,” he adds. “We’ll propose a group of reforms to bring down costs, from malpractice reform and enabling people to purchase insurance across state lines to rewards for wellness and fitness and cost-savings for small businesses. Cost is the fundamental schism here. Republicans know that the focus needs to be on bringing down costs. The Democrats, meanwhile, are intent on changing the whole system.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NzkyZTFjNGZmYzhjNzg4Y2EwMTdiMGZkM2FhNDdmODk=
NO NO NO – we will always lose this debate to D/statist promising free goodies at someone elses expense!
This debate needs be framed in CLEAR TERMS with Conservaitve holding the moral high ground:
“But the problem is that Democrats don’t need the public option to engineer a “federal takeover of our health care system.” All they need is the power to force Americans to purchase insurance.
If the government can force Americans to buy coverage on the threat of fines or even imprisonment–an option that Nancy Pelosi has pointedly refused to rule out–every other government diktat becomes small potatoes by contrast.
Therefore, instead of wonkishly droning about the public option, Republicans should counter Democrats’ grand appeals for “universal coverage for all” with equally grand appeals for “medical freedom for all.” They should stand together on the Capitol steps and issue the health care equivalent of Reagan’s Berlin Wall ultimatum: “Mr. President: Tear up this mandate.”
Republicans have to offer a principled critique of ObamaCare that delineates the sharp moral choices that Americans face. The current health care battle is the domestic policy equivalent of the Cold War. Democrats are on the side of command-and-control mandates that deprive individuals of choice. Republicans should position themselves on the side of market-based solutions that empower–not enchain–patients.”
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/17/obamacare-health-democrats-republicans-opinions-columnists-shikha-dalmia_print.html
Md, including abortion funding. Does the church really think the liberals will keep their word even if Stupak stays in the bill?
Rdel, this is what the facts are.
1. Many thought the House Bill would never pass.
2. Nelson says no Floor Debate two weeks ago
So Far it looks like Reid is 2 for 2
MD
No I do not think removing the public option is a total victory. It will happen. I think the liberal senators to buy some sort of bill will get Reid to pull it.
If the process of pulling the public option takes place on 12-22-2009 it is a triumph.
Here’s a timeline.
1. Start debate 11-22-2009. The GOP wants 6 weeks of debate to say Jan 15-2010. This will not happen.
2. Okay maybe just three weeks of debate. The 1st vote takes place on 12-16-2009 (Thanksgiving is an off week -sorta). With great efforts and long nights plus weekends plus 7 days of voting.
3. On 12-22-2009 or 12-23-2009 its F-Day. If public option is still in 45 votes to fillbuster. No bill moves forward
4. On 12-24-2009 Reid decides that over the Christmas break he will rewrite the bill(without a public option) to try to get 60 votes.
Do you guys see the timeline here? The three crucial points are these:
A. When debate begins and ends
B. How many amendments will be allowed to voted on and how long this process will take.
C. Finally at what point will Reid move to a final passage. If the bill has weak abortion restrictions & public option at this point Snowe-Nelson-Lieberman fillbuster
To me, the most interesting aspect to the health care debate is the Romney silence on the subject. Remember, health care reform was supposed to be his greatest achievement as governor.
the combination of angry seniors + mamo-gate + exploding national debt = ???
Rdel, i hope you are right. i have always felt that if we get this into 2010, we have a great shot at nuking the whole thing.
#139 I while I agree with some of your points, particularly that it will enrich insurance companies in the short term. Its still a HC takeover giving the left, eventually as the dependency set in, a virtual lock on elecoral politics.
You see, with the individual mandate system, the Federal government will force you to participate in government run (medicare, schip, va, medicaide) or government dictated/regulare insurance plan – since they pay the bills (thru subbsides for those forced to buy private insurance), they set the regulations, and they give you no legal option but to participate its still NATIONALIZATION.
The health insurance companies may be called “private” to make you fell better but their lord and masters will be the politicians/technocrats. Essentially, they will be quasi-medical welfare agencies since they will have to cover all comers at anytime – and the subsides will be providing most of their funding. Think of them as a “public utility” for HC – ie a government monoploy.
This is a win-win in for the insurance lobby and the leftists – this is why its being pushed so hard – ITS STILL a takover.
Eventually, the demographics in this country (aging) will result in this collapsing into a single payer system in the promised 5-10 years but thats another long post….
the reason Romney is DOA for 2012, Chekote.
The most important vote since 1965, and Romney is hiding.
I will never support him
A bill is done and signed by Hussein Chavez before Christmas. It will include triggers and mandates.
JT,
Your right. Romney is dq’d. It is pretty much an open field for Palin if she wants it.
Wylie, the Civil rights act of 1965 was supposed to give the Liberals a Lock too.
The DEMS got wiped in 1966, and Nixon won in 1968
If this passes, Seniors will abandon the Dems
The most important vote since 1965, and Romney is hiding.
I agree with you. I just think it is funny. We need to send out a search party for him.
#145 You cut right to the main issue here:
“The main reason is that they themselves are deeply conflicted about the mandate. On the one hand, every Republican on the Senate Finance Committee voted against it–except, of course, for Maine’s Sen. Olympia Wavering-Heart Snowe. On the other hand, many Republicans, led by their intellectual lights at the conservative Heritage Foundation, among others, have long accepted–no, championed–the notion that unless people are forced to carry insurance, freeloaders who land in emergency rooms will cripple the health care system. Legislate personal responsibility, in other words. It was a Heritage plan for forced coverage that formed the blueprint for the Massachusetts universal care debacle that the then Republican Gov. Mitt Romney enacted.
Thus Republicans have no leg to stand on now that Obama, pulling one of his many switcheroos, has embraced the individual mandate. Heritage folks are trying to pull their own switcheroo by opposing Obama’s mandate, saying what they had originally proposed for Massachusetts was not really a mandate but actually a self-insurance scheme under which an uninsured person would have to post a personal bond before being treated in an emergency room.”
Thats why conservatives need to ensure we stick with first principles:
Individual Rights
Personal Freedom
Limited Government
Federalism
Once we buy into the government intervention nonsense then we are ceding control to the statists as thats their basic philosophy!
It is pretty much an open field for Palin if she wants it.
The baiting keeps on going….
Palin or Thune. Huckabee is wierd but he polls well.
Palin is my idol
Sign Our Books
#153 Lesson learned here – dont cut bad “compromises” with Democrats that allow government intervention….
Add Mr. McCain to this list too…..his collaboration with Feingold was another diseaster unleashed….
I think HC will be muted if all the GOP does a block no vote.
This will scare the hell out of DEms if they have no cover, but if Snowe votes for Cloture……
For Brandon
Wylie
I deplore obamacare and I have been against and with the mostest from day one. I stand second to none in oppisition to individual mandates.
My greatest fear is that some sort of nasty bill slides through with just enough folks holding their nose to pass it.
To combat that we need time. 2009 is key. If we push this out to Janauary and the economy continues to weaken-the deficit continues to weaken Obamacare fails.
I might ad that if we kill lots of stuff like mandates in the senate the bill dies.
I still believe that 51 senators do not exist that will vote to put people in jail if they do not get insurance. I do not believe 51 senators will vote to fine people for choosing not to buy insurance.
That’s why the amendment process is so crucial
Sadly I must leave. I will be back
If this passes, Seniors will abandon the Dems
Comment by Jason T.
Will that help getting it repealed? If not, it’ a moot point, as what difference would it make if the GOP becomes the caretaker of a socialist gubnmint.
#152 No, I dont think it was seen in those terms at the time too. And almost to a the last legislator, the GOP supported it.
In fact, LBJ said that he knew he was writing off the deep south for the D party for more then a generation – so essentially it was a short term political minus for them. But it certainly is a plus now for them as they essentially dominate the minority vote in the country.
Plus, politics asside, it was the correct and proper thing to do. The one key and essential function of the government is to PROTECT CITIZENS INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS!
CrappyCare is a WHOLE DIFFERENT MONSTER!
CrappyCare is about buying votes and creating dependency – this is the political aspect.
CrappyCare tramples on Individual Rights and Freedoms – this makes it the moral opposite of the civil rights act!
CrappyCare is an economic/budgetary diseaster with all its taxes, regulations, and subsidies.
CrappyCare will be a human diseaster too as it will get millions killed early thru rationing of care and by stiffiling the creation of life saving medical technologies and drugs.
Based on Principle, this needs to be defeated.
Did you morons hear?
Your hero, Sarah Palin stiffed people who bought her book and had wristbands that were supposed to indicate that they would get their book signed.
Just like the Governorship, she QUIT!
She takes your money and you can’t get an autograph!
Rdel, damn well said.
The key right now is to stop cloture, but if not, we must drag this into 2010.
Alan, nice Call on the Corzine Race. Doofus
Alan is very afraid of Sarah.
#162 Well, all those SR who are opposed will now be dying earlier as a result of rationed care so the political gain will be stunned I suppose lol…..
Yes, there will be no repealing this or going back as the GOP will never have near the political numbers needed to scale it back….
Just having a few years of caretaker GOP rule will be essentially meaningless…..great if say you are John Bohener who gets a few cool years as Speaker….but does nothing in terms of the future of this country or establishing the fundamentals for Conservative and limited governmance!
Intrade, has the March 2010 HC to pass Contract, down 6% today at 14%
Wylie Agreed.
No Alan is not afraid of Sarah. Go ahead nominate her. I dare you.
She will be CRUSHED!
Alan, your buddy Corzine needs a job. Can he sleep with in your parents Basement?
alan, they said Reagan would get crushed too fool
#161 Well, I do appreciate your insights as you know the process and politics better then I…
Well, just my humble opinion, if the GOP attacks the Individual Mandate then they will bring the whole monster crashing down…
The whole rational for CrappyCare’s taxation, regulation, and subsidies are based on that mandate…
Take the indivudula mandate away, then you have an unfinanced and unenforceable mess….
Plus, you seize the moral high ground from the Democrats which will cause the already abymismal support to drop to catatonic levels!
Alan is a little kid? Thanks Rdel, I did not realize he was a teenage punk. Makes sense
#164
See link #157. Yes, we heard.
174. Wylie let us hope. Maybe we will get lucky, and Harry miscounted for Saturday’s vote
#169 Is that with a public option?
I want to buy w/o a public option….
Coyote is going to make a small fortunate off socialist medicine….
If we gotta have the cramdown, I at least want some money to buy medical care in India lol
Alan is very afraid of Sarah.
I am sure he is terrified.
chekote you are better than that, to conspire with alan.
#177 Keep hope alive……at least I hope that Blanche Lincoln’s phone lines are getting something approching nuclear meltdown today and tommorrow lol
I would be a pleasant surprise if she actually did the right thing and stopped this monster right now…..but I suspect that the politcal forces in her own party are leaning on her too much as someone said earlier
chekote you are better than that, to conspire with alan.
Comment by Jason T
No she isn’t
Palin has apologized to the fans in Indiana for not signing the book. That’s why I decided not to try to get her book. It is going to be a zoo. I think I will just go and take some pictures of the crowd.
#182
DQ
Escaping the gulch again. You are not a very good John Galt. You are supposed to stay in your gulch until the whole country goes to pieces. Now go back.
chekote that is the last time I defend you.
You are worthless, go back to Italy.
Sign our books video…I watched it is was about three or four immature people with their cell phone going and some guy chanting quitter. SO what…all this shows is how immature people can be and they could have been liberals causing trouble for all we know. No one with a wristband was quarenteed anything. They are the whinners not Palin.
Palin if she wants will win the nomination in 2012. She will be on the Sunday shows and be visable from here on out…she has plenty of time to build more cred with indys. Yesterday’s Fox poll already shows that approval going up with indys. Not that I will vote for her but she has the biggest following of any R at this point and it will grow. Romney will not have a chance if she runs and Huck if he stays on Fox will not be taken serious. If he got off his but a ran against Lincoln he would have more cred, but he will not.
She is already gaining favorable ratings and the more BHO policies tear apart this country the more people will listen to her with an open mind. My wife and daugther saw her at a rally of 21,000 last year and said she is VERY effective in speaking live to crowds and communicated more effectively than any person they have heard in that forum.
I for one do not see the public option taken
out. Its the holy grail for SEIU and many
other left wingnuts. maybe they soften it up
ala trigger but I say they keep it. For
them all reason is out the window. They have
plotted this for 60 yrs. They are totally
unprincipled and crave and respect only
power.They know once they get it it will
never be rescinded. The end game is and always
has been single payer.
A week ago I thought Palin had an up hill battle to be considered a serious contender for the GOP nod in 2012, but after this week, I have to say that she is definitely the front runner now. She is significantly exceeding expectations. It will be quite fun to watch the Republican Party elitists try and deal with her.
#187 Again, they dont need the government option now…..they need to control the HC system and the Individual Mandates allow to do that.
I know patientice is not a noted Liberal trait, but they know full well that they can get a government option then full single payer in few years since the quality of care and costs will sprial out of control.
Lets put it this way, do you not think that Mr. “22 White House Visits” Stern of SEIU was not read into the deal making last spring with the HC Insurance lobby?
re: 187 – “They are totally
unprincipled and crave and respect only
power.They know once they get it it will
never be rescinded. The end game is and always
has been single payer.”
ameister…i hope and pray you are right….if they go for the whole enchilada they are doomed.
Wylie…..here’s my firm belief: you are giving way too much credit to Harry Reid to hold his tribe together. He’s no Tom Daschle (and believe me, I’m no Daschle fan), but Daschle could at least count votes.
Reid is a stupid man.
She is significantly exceeding expectations
Okay. That’s it. I have had it with delusional talk. Why Sarah will be a distaster for the GOP. Part I:
She constantly makes up stuff to make herself look good. Evidence:
In the book, Palin claims to have helped the fishermen, Alaska Natives and other individuals suing Exxon over spill damages prevail in their legal case. “It took years for Alaska to achieve victory. As governor, I directed our attorney general to write an amicus brief in the case, and, thanks to Alaska’s able attorneys arguing in front of the highest court in the land, in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the people,” she writes in her book. “Finally, Alaskans could recover some of their losses.
But Palin’s claims of victory for the plaintiffs and of playing a role in achieving that victory are highly distorted, said the chief attorney for the approximately 32,000 plaintiffs that sued Exxon over damages from the worst oil-tanker spill in U.S. waters.
“That is the most cockamamie bullshit,” said Dave Oesting of Anchorage, lead plaintiff attorney in the private litigants’ civil case against Exxon and its successor, Exxon Mobil Corp. “She didn’t have a damn thing to do with it, and she didn’t know what it was about.”
Source
As I said before, the nomination is Palin’s if she wants it.
WEC, patience, the culture of corruption and Chicago way Barry is building will see to the destruction of everything he holds dear.
I do feel a little better knowing that Palin has taken control of the party. It is about time we had someone who won’t capitulate and worry about being invited to swanky cocktail parties.
The book is selling off the charts on Amazon and Borders. Unreal, unreal.
All the shots she has taken yet she is stronger than ever!!!!
wait a minute!
Chekote posting about Palin?
…..back to my vodka. Truly, in five years of posting here, the single most annoying person in the history of the HHR.
Sarah took down corrupt R’s once upon a time. No reason she won’t do it again. Country club R politicans – time to mend your ways.
I really like Sarah Palin. Almost as much as Chekote hates her.
I wonder who hates Palin more – Chekote or Andrew Sullivan. That would be a really close call.
AP is devoting 52 times more resources towards fact checking Sarah Palin’s #1 best seller as compared to the health care fiasco bill.
Obammer==anti christ
MSM==false prophet
Pslin
Mother
Wife
Fighter
Principled
survivor
looker
athlete
moral
patriot
Hussein Chavez
Father
Husband
Marxist
Yeah well, AP has to save us from Palin. Government takeover of the healthcare system is a minor thing compared to their obligation of saving us from the evil Sarah Palin.
#190 I hope your correct, I really do. I will be the first to admit my errors and excessive pessimism.
However, I have heard all the DOA critics for CrappyCare be proven wrong time and time again as this turd lurches forward step by step
So far, the “politics as usual” perspective on this has proven to be incorrect….
As far as I can see, the end game is fairly simple. Drop the public option but put on one hell of a show/”fight” to keep the leftist based appeased (of course their excuse will be that the “evil” insurance companies – who they are actually working with – and the R are blamed). No public option, no filibuster, pick up Snowe…..yada yada yada
198
Palin = real deal.
John Wayne in a 5′5, 120lb (and good looking) package.
Add in smart, tenacious, charasmatic and you have the next Reagan.
Look JT, Alan is a dimwit whom I hope he gets the health care he desires just not in this country. But, please, please, let’s drop this nonsense that the liberals are terrified of Palin. They are not. They just enjoy making fun of her like Chevy Chase enjoined making fun of Gerald Ford.
Wylie,
You and I both know it is over. The only politican with any guts was Sarah Palin.
#200 Since the AP is a huge propaganda arm for socialist medicine it would be natural impulse to destroy one of CrappyCare’s most notable/famous critics…..
So far, the “politics as usual” perspective on this has proven to be incorrect….
Wylie….this battle hasn’t even begun yet.
Sullivan does find other things to write about though, or so I’m told.
If you stop watering a plant, sometimes it will wither and die.
JT,
Yes, they are scared to death. People wait overnight for the chance to meet her. I can’t wait to work for her.
They make fun of her because she’s not an elitist like they are. Same reason they look down their nose at the rest of us in flyover country.
The only politican with any guts was Sarah Palin.
That’s why she is going on Meet the Press or having interviews with Hannity and other people who are doing a pretty good job replicating the slobering interviews that Obama got from the MSM. She is a tough cookie our Mama Grizzly.
Re: 203
“203.Look JT, Alan is a dimwit whom I hope he gets the health care he desires just not in this country. But, please, please, let’s drop this nonsense that the liberals are terrified of Palin. They are not. They just enjoy making fun of her like Chevy Chase enjoined making fun of Gerald Ford.”
I’d take a 100 Alan’s versus 1 Chekote!
In a battle between delusional and stupid I’d go with delusional every time! They are so weird as to be entertaining!
202 – Will Sarah soon be the new Chuck Norris MD?
Phil
I am sure that you are right. There is a lot of that. Especially, in places like New York City. They think they are smarter than everyone. They are wrong. But that’s the attitude.
#204 Well, I would be more enamored with Ms. Palin if she would stop selling books and hold some massive rallies against CrappyCare!
I think being a front person against CrappyCare and on the side of the people’s freedom is what is needed to change the CrappyCare dynamics….
She could start with a rally in Little Rock AR tomorrow….
Plus she’s a clinger of guns and religion – like the rest of us they look down on.
see SF fundraiser when Barry didn’t think anyone else was listening
that would be like asking David Frum to go on Fox news.
I have to wonder if it’s still worth validating the “meet the presses” of the world anymore, I suppose their time has not yet run out.
#211
HB
Hey, I back up my assertions with articles from the WSJ. You are just spouting nonsense followed by wishful thinking. If the woman can’t handle David Gregory, how is she going to handle Putin? We are getting a lesson right now about putting a naive, inexperienced person in the WH. And what is the conservative response: let replace their empty headed celebrity with our own empty headed celebrity.
KN,
She is going to clean up like Chuck!
Palin – a new leader for a new day.
#206 My point is that it should have been over by now….
Why in the heck are we all sitting here “wondering” what a Senator from a deep red state where the damm bill has a popularity ratings worse then the smell of Rosie’s panties after a 5 burrito bender (24/65 against it)!
By converntial political calculations, this thing should have been dead back in AUG as its that radioactive and way far down on most americans priority list….
Gregory is a lame imitation of Russert. Are they still #1?
Palin cleaned up on that show.
218 “You are just spouting nonsense followed by wishful thinking. ”
maybe, but i find you stupid and annoying.
You could start adopting some of these..
http://www.historyaddict.com/chucknorrisisms.htm
lol
Chekote…O Reilly is one of the toughest interviews and we will see how she does tonight. She will be on all the Sunday shows at some point. At the very least she will be the King maker of the GOP for 2012. Get used to it…she is a major player in the GOP…like it or not.
MD…I agree…She really has survived alot already and getting stronger…it is amazing.
KH
Then she can go on FNS with Chris Wallace. Or do an interview with Brit Hume. Seriously, are you willing to put this woman in charge to deal with Iran? And her going around saying that Palestianians need to move out because more and more Jews will be moving in is irresponsible. I say this as an Israel supporter. Even if she thinks that, you don’t announce it to the world. Anyway, BOR promised that they would talk policy tonight. Of course, he said the same thing last night.
Rudy Giuliani apparently to announce Decision on Senate Race next Thursday Nov. 26th.
Sarah Palin was not born into the “club”. She earned her way in and then took down the corrupt club members.
Then she took hits the likes of which were never seen before.
Now? She is back and stronger than ever!!!!!
PALIN!!!!!!!
One reason that Steve Israel, Carolyn Maloney, Jerry Nadler and every other New York Democrat who yearns to serve in the U.S. Senate someday may be particularly thankful next Thursday: Rudy Giuliani and his apparent readiness to challenge Kirsten Gillibrand next year.
FNS is just like MTP, only its actually watchable – My question was bigger than MTP or Sarah.
she is a major player in the GOP…like it or not.
I don’t like it. I will not be intimidated by her fan club into silence. I think it is pathetic that so many in the GOP are enthralled with a righ wing version of Obama. I want substance.
Supposedly she is going to talk policy tonight. Let’s see. God knows I am tired of the questions about the Couric interview. Palin said that she was annoyed and that’s why she answered her questions badly. If she is elected POTUS, let’s hope she doesn’t get annoyed at some international summit. Of course, she can always say “My bad” afterwards and everything will be all right.
And now here is Sarah Palin who is twice the woman David Brooks is!”
Hat tip – Right Wing Yahoo
#229
KH
If not the Sunday talk, something else of a similar nature will take its place. Personally, I like the British system where every week the leaders of the parties face off. If you can’t put two sentences together or don’t know your stuff you are out. Here in the US candidates political leaders are too shielded.
And if you are going to measure qualifications based on the ability to sell books or draw crowds, no one beats Oprah.
Oprah for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good point Knight. Palin will just spit out Gregory. Actually, I think Stephanopolous might be an interesting interview.
She really does not need to bother with any of them. She has risen above them just like Reagan.
231 – lol, I must have missed that one.
When was the last time Hussein apologized?
Not Enough Hours in the DayShare
Today at 5:16pm
The response on this book tour has been overwhelming. We are truly humbled, and I thank you.
I’ve been told that yesterday there were supporters in Noblesville who stood in long lines for hours in the cold and rain, and the book signing event ended without a chance to say hello to everyone who showed up. I am so sorry. We are working on a solution for those who were left behind.
I apologize.
- Sarah Palin
Good on ya, Sarah.
Prediction: If Huckabee stays on TV for another year he will not be taken seriously in 2012.
I’m just tired of the candidates getting hit with questions having to anwser usually complex shit in 30 second bytes to hit a commercial break (nor do I want them droning on endless on one topic). You know what was the only really informative forum last year?
The rick warren interview\debates format – I’d like to see variations of that done with candidates (including the primaries), or give them the 40 minutes of the typical hour program, without the lame analysis immediately afterward.
Jeff P,
He just passionately defended Obama. He is not taken seriously now.
http://bejohngalt.com/2009/11/huck-slams-shameful-treatment-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-59027
Go post over there for those of you who have privledges. It is a fun place.
#233 – Dear god I fear that may be on her mind at some point.
I saw the funniest cartoon today. It had Obama bowing to Burger King.
“He is not taken seriously now. ”
—
I don’t take him that seriously any more, I used too.
Obama’s Pentagon: Air defense over the US may not be worth the cost.
Folks you can not parody these people any more.
When was the last time Hussein apologized?
Obama apologizes all the time. Especially, while on foreign soil.
Despite Palin complaining that the Mac campaign shielded her from reporters, she is doing the same now. During her book tour, all reporters are kept at bay. She is fearless.
MD
Since BJG is so much fun, try staying there. We can get the Palin updates from TB.
Suprising decent info on real HC issues coming from PBS:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDlhOWMxMWM0NjI0Y2RmYTUwNzQ4YmJjMTIyYTA5MWE=
“4. Obamacare won’t fix it. The NPR team did not come right out and say it, but its reporting points to this conclusion. Alex Blumberg put it this way:
Markets are usually really good at controlling costs. When they work best, products come into existence like cell phones or stockings, they start expensive and then they get cheaper and better. But markets don’t guarantee that everyone can afford the things they need. Government can be good at that, ensuring universal access. But when you’re paying for everybody, it’s hard to control costs.
For [economic historian] Melissa Thomasson, she says that either extreme — a competitive market system where consumers know what price they’re paying and what they’re getting, which would drive the cost of health care down, or a government-run system which would cover everyone — would be better than the accidental mixture that we have today: a really expensive system that doesn’t cover us all.
Obamacare would pour even more cement over this broken system. It’s not a single-payer system that would cover everyone and control costs through price controls and rationing. Nor is it a market-oriented reform that would empower consumers by equalizing the tax treatment of health insurance and reducing the role of government in the market. Instead, it makes health insurance mandatory for everyone. It bends the cost curve up by subsidizing insurance without putting any real cost-control measures in place. And it creates a public option that would weaken the power of insurance companies to bargain with hospitals for better rates.
Democrats have accused conservatives of spreading fear and misinformation about their health-care legislation. They might want to look into this new and most insidious propaganda arm of the conservative movement: NPR.”
http://www.motifake.com/genuflection-obama-bowing-saudi-king-demotivational-poster-52006.html
What NPR went off the reservation?
Sarah frames the issue yet again!
Cancer Screenings – Rational Advice or Rationed Care?Share
Today at 2:10am
It was a breath of fresh air to finally hear the Democrats admit to their health care bill as “a lot of show and tell and razzmatazz,” (see Democrat talking points, in reference to my book). At least now we’re all on the same page when discussing the problems with their monstrous government health care “reform” plan.
Now, tonight, more disconcerting news – the New York Times reports of new guidelines to scale back cervical cancer screenings. The recommendation from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists comes on the heels of another recommendation to limit breast cancer screenings with mammograms. There are many questions unanswered for me, but one which immediately comes to mind is whether costs have anything to do with these recommendations. The current health care debate elicits great concern because of its introduction of socialized medicine in America and the inevitable rationed care. We need to carefully watch this debate as it coincides with Capitol Hill’s debate and determine whether we are witnessing the early stages of that rationed care before the Senate bill is rushed through as well.
Another question is why these women-focused cancers are seemingly receiving substandard attention at a time when proactive health and fitness should be the message. Every woman should encourage rigorous debate to ensure that our collective voices are heard. We are paying attention to Washington’s health care proposals, and we want to hear what helps patients the most.
We need answers: Is early screening not saving lives? Why do doctors’ groups disagree? Did costs play any role in these decisions to change the recommendations on breast and cervical cancer screenings? We need assurances that everything we’ve heard this week about fewer tests for women’s cancers is a result of patient-focused research and providing the best care for the right reasons, and not because of bureaucratic pressure to control costs.
Obviously the first thought that comes to mind when hearing of these new recommendations from bureaucratic panels is “rationed care.” It’s fair – and healthy – to ask if that’s what Washington has in mind with a government-controlled takeover of a health care system.
Check out the pics gang:
http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin?ref=ts#/notes/sarah-palin/going-rogue-tour/178313593434
#248
She is a few days late. As always, she sits back and sees what catches fire before putting in her 2cents. Sitting back. That’s a sign of leadership. Like quitting is a sign perseverance.
Maybe we have to pay Obama more, I mean if we increase his pay grade do you think he could make a decision on Afghanistan? That statement was so darn telling.
Time to go be with the kids.
#249
I like those better than the Betty Boop inspired photo for Runner’s Magazine used by Newsweek.
let’s pray you’re never a few days late.
Time to go be with the kids.
You mean BJG? Tell Jan and PG hi for me.
MD
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs051.snc3/13832_185006248587_24718773587_2840850_8261234_n.jpg
That one’s funny, like a mirror.
Maybe we have to pay Obama more, I mean if we increase his pay grade do you think he could make a decision on Afghanistan? That statement was so darn telling.
Yup. He is in over his head. No question about it. And the result may be a loss in Afghanistan and a nuclear Iran.
#256
If I had been in Sarah’s place I would have been totally creeped out.
I wonder who hates Palin more – Chekote or Andrew Sullivan ? actually, i think my wife hates palin more than either of them.
i think my wife hates palin more than either of them
Really? I thought you said she and your daughter like her.
hellbelly, if you’re MAN enough, drop by and show yourself with your poetry blazin
http://bejohngalt.com/2009/11/its-430-est-do-you-know-where-your-senator-is/comment-page-1/#comment-59120
my daughter may like Palin, the wife, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
HATES HER, HATES HER. HATES HER
WITH A VENGENCE !!!
Results? I’m convinced he wants a nuclear Iran, or certainly wouldn’t mind it.
#262
Worse than me and Sullivan? I didn’t think it was possible.
I’m convinced he wants a nuclear Iran, or certainly wouldn’t mind it.
According to a former Bush official I spoke to, she thinks Obama is pursuing a nuclear free Middle East. She thinks he will allow Iran to have civil nuclear facilities but he will push for Israel to get rid of its nukes too. Personally, I think he will ephed it up so badly that the Middle East will plunge in a nuclear race. The Arab states aren’t too thrilled with a nuclear Iran either.
I guess he thinks the other players aren’t going to react to a nuclear iran “peacefull”(lolololol) or otherwise? Yeah and Babs is really going to give up his right? Real critical thinking there on his part.
#266
I am convinced that he an idealist fool who has bought into all the lefty “make love, not war” crap that reigns supremes in East Cost elite schools. Since he has been able to get into the WH based on his charm, I really think that he believes he can sit across Iamadinnerjacket and convinced him to give up his nuclear ambitions. The world is so screwed.
http://patterico.com/2009/11/19/l-a-times-columnist-uncritically-quoted-star-of-latest-acorn-video/
LOL
HT:DrDog
KH
What would you do about Iran?