NY: Another Poll Shows Giuliani Ahead Of Gillibrand
Democrat John Zogby is out with a new poll that Rudy Giuliani might look at if he is deciding whether or not to run for the US Senate next year.
US SENATE – NEW YORK (Zogby)
Rudy Giuliani (R) 45%
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-inc) 43%Kirsten Gillibrand (D-inc) 43%
George Pataki (R) 38%
This poll was done November 20-21 among 982 likely voters.




Frist
Second too
Looks like Zogby switched to IVR for this poll. Interesting.
Run, Rudy, Run.
am I the only one here who thinks that the Gov race would have been easier for Rudy to win?
Maybe it won’t matter given the upcoming GOP wave…
“Joblessness for 16-to-24-year-old black men has reached Great Depression proportions — 34.5 percent in October” -wapo
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Why does Obama hate black men?
5. Have not heard anyone else say that (assuming cuomo jumps in) so maybe.
Big Joe – I think Governor is a more natural fit for Rudy’s executive talents, but I don’t agree that it would be an easier race for Rudy to win. Appointees to senate seats have a poor recordof holding the seat, and Gilly hasn’t done much over the past several months to demonstrate that she is the exception to the rule. I think a race between Rudy and Cuomo would be a barnburner, but Rudy would still be the underdog given NY’s partisan leanings. He would be a slight favorite against Gilly, who is a DC incumbent in an anti-incumbent year. plus, I think there are several security/foreign policy issues (the KSM trial, Isreal, etc.) that Rudy can make hay on in the senate race.
Obama’s policies hurt his biggest constituents: blacks and very young voters. The repubs have no chance with the former and the best they can hope is that they are depressed and dont turn out. However, with the young, they should educate these kids on the value of conservatism. A word of caution; most young adults will listen to fiscal conservatism but will tune you out if you get too socially conservative with them.
RAS numbers this morning among blacks
97/3
You can’t make this shit up
This will undoubtedly drive Chekote nuts, but Matthew Dowd (who ran Bush’s successful 2004 campaign) has a very interesting editorial which says that Yes, Sarah Palin COULD be elected President, even in 2012!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/23/AR2009112303216.html?sub=AR
Here’s his convincing evidence:
1. Past history shows that no President running for reelection has won a second term if his approval rating is below 47%.
2. Similarly, no no President running for reelection has lost if his approval rating is above 51%.
3. Thus, who the challenger is only matters if the President’s approval rating is between 47% and 51%.
4. Obama is currently at 49% in Gallup, and 45% in Rasmussen. With more months of 10%+ unemployment, unpopular Health Care, Cap & Trade, and Immigration bills that he will be pushing, plus Afghanistan, it’s not hard to imagine that he’ll be solidly below that 47% number in 2012.
5. Sarah Palin is just about the most popular Republican out there, so she could easily win the GOP nomination.
All this being said, I hope she doesn’t run in 2012, but continues to build her resume for a run in either 2016 or 2020. She is, in my estimiation, not yet “qualified” to be President. On the other hand, she’s infinitely MORE qualified than the current President, but with our liberal media, there is a different standard for “qualified” for Democrats and Republicans, especially Republican women.
Thoughts?
Oh no
Don’t open that door. Chekote will run through it, and run through it, and run through it……..
RAS numbers this morning among blacks
You can’t make this shit up
Comment by Phil
what have we done
I wonder if the GOP lead on the generic congressional ballot will be in the +8-10 range with RAS today.
#13. Not quite that high. But close.
It will be +7
I think the Dems will look back at the 2010 midterms as the red and purple state slaughter. Dems in conservative leaning House districts? Gone. Toast. Stick a fork in them. The real scary part for them is how competitive the GOP could be in blue states this year given how seniors and independents will vote against them en masse. The Senate looks good for some gains this year but 2012 looks really awful for the Dems in regards to the Senate.
IED ALERT!!!!!!
I think Saddam will be back to start, stop, and re-start the vot.
Remember that polls as a general rule tend to understate Republican strength. Not a huge amount, but enough to be statistically significant. So if the generic poll is R + X, its likely more than that. Historically the generic poll almost always shows a + for the Ds. And Republicans tend to do pretty well when its even d +3 or so. So the coming elections will be a Tsunami unless the Democrats totally change their policies, which their rabid left wing will not allow. So enjoy the show.
17 – lol
“Dear leader is at 33/66 among independents.”
Phil pointed this out on the last thread.
It is 16/51 among Independents for Strongly Approve/Strongly Disaprove.
McDonnell won 66-33 among I’s in VA.
More ominously, Christie won 60-30 in NJ, even with the prsence of third party Daggett.
As they say, it’s all good.
Gary,
What are you talking about? Jennings over at PPP just told us that Dems have a comfortable 8 point lead in the generic congressional ballot.
All is well for the Democrats. They are free to track further left.
In fact, I highly recommend it. LOL
I never went back to yesterdays thread. Did ? ever apologize for her smearing of Pete Sessions? Despite having nothing to do with either candidates recruitment, it was all his fault. And she then tried to explain that she had worked on his campaign! With friends like that who needs enemies?
Dear leader is at 33/66 among independents.”
Doesn’t matter. As long as he has the “base” with him he will win. Remember the lesson from Architect Rove.
Phil
The path to greater glory is to pass HC Reform. Or die trying, ( this is the part I really like ).
I did not smear Pete Sessions. In my opinion, he is incompetent. He is in charge of winning back the House and so far he has lost two seats to the Dems in districts where the GOP outnumbered in registration by tens of thousand.
You just did, AGAIN.
Yeah, I kinda have to agree. Calling him incompetent is pretty much the same as smearing.
PPP Poll
Wisconsin Senate
Feingold (D) 50 %
Thompson (R) 41 %
Undecided 10 %
Feingold (D) 48 %
Wall (R) 34 %
Undecided 19 %
Feingold (D) 47 %
Westlake (R) 32 %
Undecided 21 %
Job Approvals
Obama 47/47
Feingold 45/37
Health Care Plan
Support 37 %
Oppose 52 %
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WI_1124.pdf
Damn, beat me to it Daniel. I was just about to post that.
Not a surprise that Feingold is up.
Obama at 47% should be worrying for him.
The interesting aspects of last night’s conversation were that 1) all the threats of staying home by certain elements if Lieberman was tapped as VP were empty. When faced with a choice of having Obama in the WH or not most people would have voted for McCain; 2) apparently, nothing should be changed as far as the Republican agenda. Nothing in foreign policy. Nothing in domestic policy; nothing in electoral strategy; nothing. If the GOP was so damn perfect in every aspect, why did they get spanked by the voters back to back? I guess it was all McCain being a moderate. In 2006, voters had psychic vision that Mac would be the GOP nonimee so they voted to kick the GOP out of Congress. In 2008, the vision came through and the voters increased the Dems margins in Congress. Yup, Republicans are still in denial.
Calling him incompetent is pretty much the same as smearing.
Why? He is responsible for running this ad in the Tedisco ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmwnnNPGVUQ
Maybe my memory is fading but I thought you thought it was stupid to run it at the time. That’s my opinion. I stand by it until Sessions proves me wrong.
Forget the Senate, Lou Dobbs maybe going for the White House:
Lou Dobbs mulls White House bid
Chekote you are making s___ up. Nobody said the GOP was perfect. You asked me about the Bush Doctrine and I said it was his best policy and I wouldn’t change it and explained why.
What you are doing is trying to fit your pre-conceived notion into the facts..doesn’t work.
Also I was clear that although I would vote for McCain-Lieberman this ticket would not have won the election, it would have marginally improved McCain’s vote in very blue states and hurt his vote in very red states, a wash.
And I certainly think the GOP needs a new electoral strategy.
33. A Lou Dobbs candidacy would just about ensure Obama’s election. Hope it doesn’t happen.
This one reason why I think Pete Sessions is incompetent:
Pete Sessions: House GOP learning from Taliban
Re the Feingold poll. Not necessarily bad for Thompson
1. It’s PPP
2. Incumbent at 50% with single digit lead
3. In a wave election, this is the kind of seat that goes.
#34
You are correct. No one said that the GOP is perfect. Yet, no one can think of one thing to change. Not one. Nothing on foreign policy. Nothing on domestic policy. Nothing on electoral policy. So it must be perfect.
#35
You are probably right. Still, I would love to see Lou Dobbs in a presidential debate.
I think Barney Frank also compared the GOP to the Taliban. Hmmm….. interesting.
“… so far he has lost two seats to the Dems in districts where the GOP outnumbered in registration by tens of thousand”
He didn’t pick the candidates. This is gratuitous BS, those races don’t say anything about Sessions one way or the other.
Recruitment is only part of the job. Funding, organization, allocation of resources, GOTV, publicity, etc.
When you are well informed on these factors come back and render an opinion on Sessions.
To 37,
What you mean by it’s still PPP? They’ve done a pretty good Job in Polling 2008 & 2009. I don’t think their Polls a Dem. biased.
I was a little disapointed in The WI Senate poll. Feingold is very popular in WI, but I thought Thompson would be closer. In this case it will be extremely hard to vote out a popular entrenched Senator. He would have to be joined at the hip with Obama, and the economy would have to tank more to bring them both down.
#41
Do you really want to defend someone who compared the GOP to the Taliban? Do you really want to defend someone who funded ads with Atta in it? I guess the devil made him do it. You mean he can’t pick up the phone and talk to local officials? He can’t use his money to influence the recruitment decisions?
“Yet, no one can think of one thing to change. Not one. Nothing on foreign policy. Nothing on domestic policy. Nothing on electoral policy. So it must be perfect.”
I have to admit, after witnessing this debacle, Bush’s policies do look a lot better to me, at least until the Democrats took over Congress in 2006 and we got Barney Frank running the sub-prime housing market, the precursor to this whole mess….
I liked the stock market at 14k. I liked terrorists confined to Guantanamo and the War on Terror. I liked unemployment at 5%. I liked Alito and Roberts. I liked a hard line with Iran, Syria, North Korea. I liked treating Chavez and Castro like non-entities. I liked the 700 mile wall on the Mexican border. I liked the Patriot Act. I liked low inflation and low interest rates. I liked supporting the military with the resources and weapons systems needed.
But there is plenty Republicans can run on:
1. HC reform based on keeping what works (quality, technology, innovation, research) and expanding INSURANCE coverage to the uninsured.
2. A surge in Afghanistan with clear cut objectives.
3. An immigration policy based on enforcing the borders first.
4. An economic and job growth policy aimed at encouraging business development and the private sector
5. A housing policy based on low interest rates and taxes
6. Real tort reform
“I don’t think their Polls a Dem. biased.”
I do. They are basically a Democratic outfit. That being said they have to survive with some credibility, so they are not off the wall. If they think a Democrat is going down, re Corzine, they are not going down with him.
But yes, I think most of their polling, especially a long way from the election when they won’t be called on it, favors Democrats.
44. The answer is yes on all counts. Sessions is fine to me.
Atta flew a plane into the WTC, why do you want to defend him? Or was he just a Muslim who blew a gasket, poor fellow?
And yes, sometimes the locals get to pick the candidate and no phone call will prevent it. The position is not of dictator.
#45
They ran on that and lost. BIG TIME.