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ND: Dorgan To Retire

Big news just breaking from USA Today.

Sen. Byron Dorgan, a 18-year veteran Democrat, dropped a late-day bombshell, announcing he will retire when his term ends this year. Dorgan’s announcement represents an opportunity for Republicans: North Dakota is a Republican-leaning state, where President Obama got just 45% of the vote last year.

Clearly a big boost for Republicans as a seat that was probably leaning Democratic becomes instantly much brighter for Republicans. Of course in the Dakotas, where five of the six seats in Congress are held my Democrats, Republicans can’t guarantee this seat yet….

Posted by Dave at 6:25 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (171)

171 Responses to “ND: Dorgan To Retire”

  1. Marv says:

    Hello folks.

  2. Tommy_Boy says:

    Dave,

    I think it’s safe to call this one.

  3. Michael says:

    In this climate…A Dem has no chance in North Dakota. This will be a pick-up even if Hoeven does’nt run.

  4. Chekote says:

    WOW!

  5. D QUIXOTE says:

    THE RATS ARE JUMPING THE SHIP,HOORAY,
    ANOTHER BITES THE DUST THIS DAY,
    LACKING THE CAJONES TO FACE THEIR DEMISE,
    THEY GIVE THE FINGER TO THE VOTERS THEY DESPISE,
    ANOTHER QUISLING IN COMPLETE DISARRAY.

  6. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    Now we need to elect Scott Brown and save millions from the tradgedy of CrappyCare!

    Dorgan, etc – all these socialist liars need to be stopped in their radical takeover plans prior to their escaping DC with the ill-gotten sacks of money!

    This cabal of leftist/statists/big unions/big government/big business types must not be allowed to destroy our country, our prosperity, and our freedom!

  7. Chekote says:

    All we need is four seats in the Senate and we will be able to stop Obama and Pelosi. It might be better than gaining control of Congress. The last time that happened Clinton was able to triangulate. I don’t want for Obama to have that opportunity.

  8. Diogenes says:

    Obama won’t triangulate. But he’s really hands off so I bet Rahm becomes the triangulator (which I’m sure he’s capable of doing).

  9. Chekote says:

    BTW, I really admire the father who turned in his terrorist son. That must of have been a heartbreaking thing to do. Yet, he put the innocent lives of strangers above anything else.

  10. Chekote says:

    Rahm served with Clinton so he knows all about that. I rather see the Dems and Obama stumble the final two years in office. I rather have a GOP wave in 2012 with a strong agenda that will put this country back on track. Winning control now might ensure an Obama re-election. I don’t want to see that.

  11. Tommy_Boy says:

    From Chuck Todd:

    http://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/7419239221

    A gut punch to Senate Democrats: Byron Dorgan is retiring instead of running for re-election. ND SEN best 2010 pickup opp, hands down.

  12. jason says:

    from the other thread…

    “Who is likely to run on the Democratic side now?”

    A nobody. You read it here first. I should run myself. Hoeven could be caught in a menage a trois with animals and I might win.(they would probably have to be a protected species though, regular barnyard animals would not be enough).

  13. Brandon says:

    How long before Rasmussen is blamed for putting out that poll a few weeks ago causing Dorgan to retire?

  14. jason says:

    The good thing about the Dorgan seat is that its pretty permanent. Any Republican that wins it will be there for as long as he or she wants.

  15. Marv says:

    Ideally, the Republicans will win just enough seats in both chambers of Congress to establish an effective blocking minority, while leaving the Democrats as the majority party. Obama and the Democrats will not be able to advance their Marxist agenda, but they will still be blamed for everything that will go wrong. The economy is still in deep trouble, even more so in 2011 when taxes go up dramatically as the Bush tax cuts expire.

  16. jason says:

    13. Hey let’s hope he picks a new target.

  17. Michael says:

    I bet Pomeroy quits too.

  18. Marv says:

    This has been a great few days of news. Both Air Force and Navy won their bowl games by an average of 25 points each and now conservatives are on the offensive as Dorgan quits.

  19. Phil says:

    I’d say Pomeroy would run

    EXCEPT

    the moron voted for Obamacare.

    He’s another POS that needs to be taken out.

  20. D QUIXOTE says:

    MARV, a query?

    Were you an airplane driver for an airline???

  21. jason says:

    Pomeroy is definitely a target. So is Herseth in SD who only got elected in 2004 because Bill Janklow was involved in an accident with a motorcycle and won the election by less than 3k votes.

  22. Chekote says:

    Ideally, the Republicans will win just enough seats in both chambers of Congress to establish an effective blocking minority, while leaving the Democrats as the majority party.

    Agreed.

  23. Phil says:

    Read on another blog Pomeroy will probably run. How does he have any better chance win than Dorgan? He voted for Obamacare also.

    Thank you very much. We’ll take your House seat too.

  24. Charles says:

    Obama has passed precisely two pieces of legislation that are important.

    The stimulus part 1 and the SCHIP. He will pass nothing else as the Drats realize that he is standing in the way of priority one for them.

  25. D QUIXOTE says:

    He will pass nothing else as the Drats realize that he is standing in the way of priority one for them.

    Comment by Charles — January 5, 2010 @ 7:03 pm

    Many of them have already reached their priority of enacting socialized medicine, as that is what they were hanging around for.
    Obamer will pass amnesty,universal voter registration,repeal don’t ask, don’t tell/and DOMA. He still has the votes.

  26. Howard Dean says:

    Buh bye POS!!!!

    TRAITOR!

  27. AlN says:

    BTW, I really admire the father who turned in his terrorist son. That must of have been a heartbreaking thing to do. Yet, he put the innocent lives of strangers above anything else.
    Comment by Chekote — January 5, 2010 @ 6:43 pm

    I agree, and I sure hope this guy has good security. I’m sure the radical Muslims would love to kill this guy!

  28. Howard Dean says:

    “Although I still have a passion for public service and enjoy my work in the Senate, I have other interests and I have other things I would like to pursue outside of public life.”

    Translation: You should see my internal polling!

  29. jason says:

    Pomeroy has a lot of seniority in the House. A run against Hoeven would be suicidal the Dems would lose both the House seat and the Senate seat for sure. I really don’t know enough about ND politics to say whether there are other strong senate candidates on the GOP side. Certainly none were mentioned as strong against Dorgan.

  30. jason says:

    “Translation: You should see my internal polling!”

    I like Ace’s translation too. He quit to spend time with his family and to avoid getting his ass kicked but mostly not to get his ass kicked.

  31. sam says:

    And so it begins…

  32. House Sparrow says:

    Moore, Baird, Tanner, Gordon, Dorgan… Who will be next to choose the retirement of their sorry keester over having it handed to them by the voters?

    These socialist weasels know what they have done and enabled, and they don’t even have the backbone to face the voters. Good, save the GOP some more campaign cash. Open seats are cheaper to go after than occupied ones!

  33. Howard Dean says:

    Fed judges: Wash. felony inmates should get vote

    Rachel La Corte Associated Press

    OLYMPIA — Incarcerated felons should be allowed to vote in Washington to ensure that racial minorities are protected under the Voting Rights Act, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.

  34. House Sparrow says:

    Unreal. So, white felons are excluded??

  35. Howard Dean says:

    Thank the 9th Circus for that.

  36. rdelbov says:

    wow I am stunned.

    I for one do not see Pomeroy running.

    stunned?

    I still see Dodd running.

  37. sam says:

    “…whether there are other strong senate candidates on the GOP side. Certainly none were mentioned as strong against Dorgan…”

    In many races, it just does not matter who the Rep candidate is.

    2010 is going to be an anti-Dem backlash, the likes of which has not been seen previously. Just like Obama made history by winning the presidency, he is going to make history by losing Congress and states in historic fashion. Pundits are just not capturing the frustration and fear that voters feel.

    I stick by my prediction of 9+ Senate, 65+ House, and 11+ governorship gains for the GOP in 2010. (And, at this point, I am reviewing my House prediction with an eye to increase upwards – 18 point swing in generic preference in 1 year is historical, and most pundits have no frame of reference for changes of this magnitude.)

  38. rdelbov says:

    Info on Chris Dodd’s dad-last two US senators to be censured

    Joe MacCarthy and Tom Dodd

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Dodd

  39. Wes says:

    Translation for Phil: Hoeven was going to run, and Dorgan decided he’d rather leave on his own terms than go down to humiliating defeat.

  40. Charles says:

    DQ, unless the house passes the Senate unchanged (not likely) or the senate passes the house bill unchanged (even less likely), he hasn’t passed anything.

    And he will to pass nothing regardless of whether or not he has the votes or not.

    Notice how quiet Hildebeast has been? And how the press hasn’t laid into her about the State dept.’s role in the attempted bombing? They’re starting to figure out the very real danger Skippy poses to thei Democratic Party’s future.

  41. House Sparrow says:

    The 9th Circuit Court Jesters continue with their greatest hits!

    Pomeroy will likely run for House re-election, and stands a good chance of losing that. Senate is way out of his league this year, and he has to know it. Dodd’s ego is bigger than the entire state of Connecticut. He will go down in flames to Simmons, but will fight it to the bitter end.

  42. Wes says:

    Tom Dodd was lucky in his first two runs for the Senate, Rdel, because 1958 and 1964 were both solid Dem years. His ethical lapses caught up to him though in the late ’60s, and the Dems ousted him in the primary. He of course sought reelection as an independent, splitting the dem vote and virtually ensuring the election of the redoubtable Lowell Weicker.

  43. sam says:

    “Christmas incident was “screw up” – Obama said

    And his DHS secretary said, “…the system worked.”

    What a fu****-up group of morons!

  44. Wes says:

    House, after Conrad, Dorgan, and Pomeroy, the Dems have no viable candidates in North Dakota. Michael Barone predicted a few years ago North Dakota was starting to shift away from its radical roots and become a GOP-leaning state downballot once again. Apparently he was right.

  45. Tina says:

    Leaning Democrat before the decision, Dave W, I disagree…
    That is why Dorgan left.

  46. Tina says:

    It is Day 12??? Where is the H-Beast????

    She runs the agency that gave the entry visa to the jihadi.

  47. MD says:

    This hedge fund fraudster is a huge contributor to the Dems. Not that you would ever read that in the AP. Imagine if he was a contributor to the Republicans? Get ready for that because this will be replayed with a Republican supporter before Nov with the headline:

    Republican Big Wig Defrauds Widowed Grandmothers

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Feds-New-charges-pending-apf-662585536.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=

  48. House Sparrow says:

    Their ND bench is running dry for sure, Wes. The great thing is that they have the very same problem here in Pennsylvania. With Rendell and Casey out of contention for anything, what they have left is an assortment of lefty lightweights with little statewide appeal.

  49. Wes says:

    Tina, I think Dorgan knew Hoeven was going to run. Being in the Dem phalanx that rammed Obamacare through meant Dorgan gave Hoeven a golden issue to pummel him with. He saw all the same polls we saw with Hoeven stomping him. It’s a classic example of the proverbial handwriting on the wall.

  50. MD says:

    Cook had Dorgan as a likely win for the Dems. Nice going Charlie.

  51. Tommy_Boy says:

    Our CT polling is confirming a Blumenthal/Dodd swap would make the seat uber safe for Dems

    http://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/7420563413

  52. MD says:

    House,

    Jack Wagner won’t be a push over for Corbett. He is the only Dem who can get any traction but he won’t win this year.

  53. Tina says:

    Well there was a ND guy on LEvin’s program, did not catch the name, but he practically guaranteed victories in the Senate and House races given the two names widely mentioned.

  54. Tina says:

    Dorgan was a contender for Reid’s seat as well as one of the D Leaders currently.

    Decapitate the Leadership.

  55. MD says:

    Dodd is going to be “forced” to retire. I still think we would have a shot but not a great one. I am still sticking to 7 because somethign like a Dodd retirement is bound to happen.

  56. House Sparrow says:

    Wagner is about all they have left, MD. In a good Dem year, he would be tough, but as you said, he won’t have what it takes this year. I don’t even know if the Dems will nominate him. I could easily see them passing up Wagner for someone like Onorato or Hoeffel, and getting decimated by Corbett instead of simply beaten.

  57. KnightHawk says:

    54 – Yes chop off the heads of the terrorist cells.

  58. Wes says:

    The Dems never really had a huge bench in North Dakota anyway, House. Dorgan and Pomeroy are the only dems since the ’30s to have held the ststate’s House seat while only Dorgan, Conrad, and Burdick have served in the Senate (aside from Burdick’s wife for a couple of months after his death) from the state. The problem with the GOP was that after giving Burdick a surprise victory in the 1960 special election, they never seriously shallenged him while Mark Andrews–the GOP Senator who replaced the retiring Milton Young in 1980–went down to Conrad in 1986 because of the interference of a former GOP Senate candidate who determined if she couldn’t win a Senate election, then she’d play spoiler and make sure no Republican won a Senate seat in the state. She ran as an indy and split Andrews’ vote, giving Conrad a victory. Since then, the GOP has had to build a bench, with Hoeven and former Governor Shaeffer as the leading candidates though neither seemed willing to bite for whatever reason. Now Hoeven almost certainly will run, and Conrad may want to think before annoucing he plans to run for reelection in 2012. His ethical lapses are well known back home, and there will almosty certainly be a large number of Republicans back home looking to tie him to an Obama who will certainly not be popular in that state at that time.

  59. KnightHawk says:

    Randy Johnson (the pitcher) retiring, another one wanting to go out on “his terms”.

  60. Wes says:

    I doubt Dodd will be forced to retire, MD. He’s too egomaniacal for that, and he has enough dirt on the other Connecticut Dems to make them think twice before moving against him. Besides, Blumenthal has already indicated he’s more interested in running for Lieberman’s seat than for Dodd’s.

  61. MD says:

    Tina.

    Dorgan always postioned himself as a fiscal con. Now that myth has been shattered. He is a smart guy. He will make a ton of dough as a lobbyist.

  62. Wes says:

    I doubt Dorgan does any lobbying, MD. He’s 67. Most likely he just retires and lives out his life on his congressional pension.

  63. Tina says:

    Yup, he a big spender….

  64. MD says:

    Tina,

    There is enough dirt on Dodd to put him away for a long time if the Dems decide he has to go. Of course, putting a sitting sen in jail would not be a good strategy for the Dems but maybe they will get desperate.

    I am still unhappy with Steele’s comments. His chief job is to fundraise and his comments can only hurt that cause.

  65. Wes says:

    One reason “Team North Dakota” as Dorgan, Conrad, and Pomeroy call themselves have been mainstays of ND politics is their willingness to send pork to the state. Actually, MD, it’s Kent Conrad–not Byron Dorgan–who claims the fiscal conservative mantle. It’s all a ruse though. Since entering the Senate in 1987, Conrad has never shied away from voting for Dems’ big spending bills. He even voted against the Balanced Budget Amendment in the mid-’90s.

  66. MD says:

    64 was intended for Wes, Tina. Sorry.

  67. Wes says:

    What comments are you referring to, MD?

  68. House Sparrow says:

    Countrywide Chris is good at being his own worst enemy. He is arrogant, egotistical and widely seen as out-of-touch and condescending. A good slice of Dems even dislike and distrust him, although many of them will still end up voting for his sorry ass.

    Indies, however, will not be so kind to Dodd. He’s toast.

    I’ll be back a bit later.

  69. Wes says:

    You’re right about the Dems’ having enough dirt to put Dodd away, MD. You overlook, however, the fact that he has just as much dirt on them. How many of them would be willing to sacrifice their own political livelihood in at best a dicey attempt to get Dodd out of the way?

  70. MD says:

    Wes,

    Thanks. I actually get those 2 confused all the time. What people forget about the Dakotas is that is that they are somewhat an extension of Minn in terms of Demographics. They are more rural and apt to vote for a Republican nationally but have sided with Dems for the state because of farming issues and such. That tide is turning.

  71. hello dolly says:

    How dare the Dems not allow Republicans to be in on the
    Health Care Bill they are pushing down our throats! God forbid
    that this bill passes at the cost of $15,000.00 per middle-class
    family. OOO just wants a bill passed so he can have something
    to pat himself on the back for and boast of his “accomplishments.”
    Woe is us to have such a wimp in office. This man does not
    understand our country nor appreciate our Constitution!
    May all those who have and are in the process of colluding
    together secretly to achieve a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose in order
    to steal our wealth and our freedom be brought down low from their
    lofty places! May their days in office be few and another take their charge or
    office!

  72. jason says:

    Who wouda thunk? The only reason there are terrorists in the Arabian Peninsula is because of Guantanamo.

    “But Mr Obama said the camp would still be shut, “in a manner that keeps the American people safe and secure”.

    “Make no mistake, we will close Guantanamo prison, which has damaged our national security interests and become a tremendous recruiting tool for al-Qaeda,” he said.

    “In fact, that was an explicit rationale for the formation of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.”

  73. Phil says:

    Who will challenge Pomeroy for the house seat. I haven’t been able to get any information. Aren’t there some GOP state office holders who might like to ride a GOP wave to Washington?

  74. MD says:

    67

    Don’t know anymore. My first 3 mile run in 7 months since I hurt my hip.

  75. Tina says:

    Md, no problem, I am just catching up today too.
    I got some good news…no East Asia trip!!!

  76. Tommy_Boy says:

    MD,

    Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Ras released a poll later this week showing Dodd leading blumenthal by a couple? Ras should do it just to be a dick, hahahah.

  77. Wes says:

    Well, Phil, all the ND constitutional officeholders but one are Republicans. I’m sure one of them might be interested in running for the House.

  78. jason says:

    Hello Dolly doth protest too much….

  79. Tina says:

    Uh, um, uh, uh, um, the dots were not um, uh, uh connectd.

    Phuq you, Mr. President.

    ***Sorry if I offended anybody.

  80. Wes says:

    So, MD, what comments by Steele were you referring to?

  81. Tina says:

    Wes, on a side note, imagine, 2 more wins by the Niners, and they win the division and play this weekend

  82. Tina says:

    What has the uh, um, (I can’t say the word) Steele say>?

  83. Phil says:

    I’d be shocked if Dodd doesn’t retire. With ND, Dems need his seat more than ever. If PPP is correct about the polling, this clinches it.

    Folks, remember NJ and the torch. Democrats NEVER allow one individual need for his seat to get in their way of keeping their party out of power. THEY need that Connecticut seat to cancel out North Dakota and now they need it badly.

    Dodd is gone.

  84. Wes says:

    They really blew it this season, Tina. That said, many of their players are rookies, and in several games–against the Vikings and the Colts for instance–they played their hearts out before narrowly losing. Singletary has much potential as a coach and has at least gotten them 8-and-8. They should be able to improve on this season’s performance next time around.

  85. maelstrom says:

    Marv. Did you see the time of possession on the Navy-Mizzou game? Navy had the ball for 41 minutes to 19 for MO. I’m looking forward to the Orange Bowl tonight when former Navy coach Paul Johnson runs the option with Ga. Tech vs. Iowa.

    Let’s hope for the trifecta next year when USNA, USMA, and USAFA all win bowl games.

    In 2004 Navy established the NCAA record for time of possession on single drive (it had never been recorded before) in the 2004 Emerald Bowl against New Mexico. They began the drive on their own 1 yard line and held onto the ball for 26 plays and an amazing 14:26 minutes. The drive ended with a field goal late in the 4th quarter.

    I saw the same look on Missouri fans that I saw on the NM sidelines five years ago.

  86. Wes says:

    It could backfire on them, Phil. Connecticut is not nearly so compfortable with flagrant corruption as New Jersey. Rell and Rowland before her appointed judges in the state courts less interested in serving the state’s political establishment than in serving its laws, unlike Whitman in New Jersey. Unless the Dems can force Dodd to step aside before the primary, they’d be unlikely to get him out of the way. Even if they did, he’s so egomaniacal he might very well follow in his father’s footsteps and run as an indy, playing spolier to the paerty that had turned its back on him anyway.

  87. Tina says:

    2 First round picks too.

    I think 12 and 16???

  88. Wes says:

    Oh, in case anyone missed it on the thread below, if Scott Brown even makes it 46% in MA in a couple of weeks–I’d be very dubious about even entertaining the remote idea of his winning at this point–I’ll buy everyone in my local Chilis an alcoholic beverage of his or her choice.

  89. Wes says:

    Despite the fact that they didn’t make it to the playoffs, Tina, the ‘9ers can at least say they beat their division leader twice. How many teams in the playoffs this season can say that?

  90. Phil says:

    That’s what I’m saying Wes. They’ll force him out before the primary. It’s just how Democrats work. They will do whatever needs to be done to keep power. They need that seat.

    I’m delighted with ND regardless of what ultimately happens with Dodd.

  91. Tina says:

    Singletary said they were in neutral this year. He is funny and pretty intense. His footfall friends told him not to kill his players, when he took the job.

  92. Wes says:

    Well, so basically they primary him and spend huge sums of money mudslinging between him and his opponent, Phil. Then they face a 2010 electorate pissed at their party with a beaten-up nominee who could be facing both a united GOP and a Dodd indy candidacy. I don’t see how that works out all that well for them.

  93. Howard Dean says:

    How about some playoff predictions?

  94. Wes says:

    Well, then he needs to shift out of neutral next year, Tina. The ‘9ers showed flashes of their potential this season. They need to live up to it next year and in following years.

  95. Wes says:

    I have Baltimore over New England, Cincinnati over New York, Dallas over Philly, and Arizona over Green Bay in the first round, Howie.

  96. Phil says:

    Wes, 46% in Mass is a helluva showing by a GOP candidate in a federal race in Mass.

    Did you see the RAS poll this morning showing Grown up 65-21 among Massachusetts indies?

    Holy Crap! Talk about a big red flag for Dems in the fall. This is a state that Obama carried indies by 57-40% in 2008. That’s SOOO big!

    Look for more retirements.

  97. MD says:

    Wes,

    Last night Steele told Hannity that the R’s would not regain the House and were not ready to lead.

  98. Wes says:

    I’ll have to see how all teams play this weekend before making a prediction on the second round.

  99. Tommy_Boy says:

    Agreed with 95 as to the NFC

    How about week 2? I’ll go with Dallas over Minnesota and Arizona over New Orleans

  100. Wes says:

    That’s outrageous and unconscionable, MD. I’ve been an ardent supporter of Steele’s since his election. Unfortunately I can’t support him after this. He needn’t be ebullient about his party’s chances in the midterms, but to make a prediction reminiscent of something Phil would have said in his doom and gloom phase a year ago is not something I can defend. If the GOP falls short of expectations this year, then Steele definitely needs to go after a statement like that.

  101. Howard Dean says:

    Wes, From your state:

    Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder

    Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City, N.C. About 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician’s home county said.

    The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen andBrunswick counties..

    The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff’s Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.

    “I am not in a position to talk to you,” Soles said by telephone. “I’m right in the middle of an investigation.”

    Soles, a top-ranking Democrat and the longest-serving member of the legislature, already was the subject of an FBI investigation over sexual misconduct allegations with former male clients. (FHW – Now, that sounds more like a liberal to me).

    H/T Dr Dog

    http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/74-year-old_n.c._state_senator_shoots_wounds_intruder_at_his_home/287987/P10/

  102. Wes says:

    Last time the GOP topped 45% of the vote in a Senate race in MA was 1972, Phil. If Brown gets 46% or more this year, then that’s an earthshattering event.

  103. Wes says:

    I know about it already, Howie. It’s all over the news here. It’s just one more scandal that’s making the Dems’ hold on the State Legislature ever more precarious this year.

  104. Bill says:

    I wonder if the messge came from Hoeven that he intended to run.

  105. D QUIXOTE says:

    Sending that message sooner, may have affected dorgans HC vote.

  106. Wes says:

    Dems had a banner year here in NC in 2008. It’s still early, but indications at this point are that 2010, 2012, and 2014 will undo the damage they did here with their victories last time around. The two most prominent beneficiaries of Obama’s 2008 coattails here–Gov Perdue and Sen Hagan–are among the most unpopular politicians in the state, and there’s talk now about each electing not to stand for reelection in 2012 and 2014 respectively.

  107. Tommy_Boy says:

    Source tells Political Wire that Ritter is dropping out of CO-Gov race… Trying to confirm

  108. Wes says:

    Most likely it wouldn’t, DQ. Most likely it just would have sped up his announcement and made him even more radically left wing than he already is.

  109. Wes says:

    That will simply be huge if it happens, Tommy. It will confirm something I’ve been saying for months:

    Quite simply Obama is the best President (at least so far) the Republicans ever had.

  110. Phil says:

    The good news for Obama. Dorgan is now free to vote for cap and trade, immigration “reform”, and whatever other left wing loon legislation the Marxists decide to push. Dorgan is now a yes on all of it. Hell, he might have been a yes anyway.

  111. Wes says:

    A series of surprising high-profile dropouts on the Dem side means only one thing: Obama is a heavy weight that will drag the party down nationwide in November.

  112. Wes says:

    Dorgan’s a yes on anything left-wing, Phil–unless of course he thinks he may get a serious challenge in an election year. Then he’s a maybe or a no.

  113. Tommy_Boy says:

    Phil,

    Dorgan was an extremely liberal Senator despite being from North Dakota. This idea that he was a moderate was a total fraud.

  114. Phil says:

    Tommy, you don’t need to tell me – another red state “moderate” fraud.

  115. Howard Dean says:

    New home sales data shows market heading for double dip

    AP

  116. Wes says:

    Conrad, Pomeroy, and Dorgan haven’t even 20% lifetime ACU ratings, Tommy. The idea that any of them was anything but an extreme leftwinger was always laughable.

  117. MD says:

    Oh come on! We all know that Dorgan is a conservative senator and Obama is a Centrist. MSNBC told me so and they know more than you guys.

  118. Howard Dean says:

    Dorgan was an extremely liberal Senator despite being from North Dakota. This idea that he was a moderate was a total fraud.

    Comment by Tommy_Boy — January 5, 2010 @ 8:27 pm

    It’s Daschle all over.

    Just ND instead of SD.

    And there’s an ass doing it in NE too.

    Oh and AR…and LA…

  119. Wes says:

    MSNBC needs to wipe Obama’s cum stains off its collective face, MD. No, I’m not sorry to anyone offended by this statement.

  120. MD says:

    I think Barney Frank is slightly center/left. I mean he expouses conservative views. Did he not encourage his boyfriend to start a busniness and be a true entrepreneur?

  121. Big Ben 4 liberty says:

    #

    Oh, in case anyone missed it on the thread below, if Scott Brown even makes it 46% in MA in a couple of weeks–I’d be very dubious about even entertaining the remote idea of his winning at this point–I’ll buy everyone in my local Chilis an alcoholic beverage of his or her choice.

    Comment by Wes — January 5, 2010 @ 8:07 pm

    Reading that post for some reason reminded me of that scene in Austin Powers: The Spy Who shagged Me, where Fat Bastard is calling Mini-Me a baby and tells him to get in his belly. Then he starts singing the Chili’s Baby Back Ribs theme.

    By the way, Scott Brown doesn’t have to win in in The Peoples’ Very Obnoxious, Arrogant and possibly insane Republic of Massivetwosh*ts. Just come within very good striking distance of winning. That alone would even make the Blue Dogs, howl in fear.

  122. Jan says:

    Not My Take, But Worth a Look: Why Brown Has a 40% Chance of Winning

    One of my readers does some world-class number crunching and analysis based on voter registration, polls, etc. For much of the fall, he was looking at the polling numbers in New Jersey and assuring me Republican Chris Christie was on track to win by a few points. Here’s what he thinks of Massachusetts’ special election:

    “I was looking at some data to see what chances Republicans have in Massachusetts. While I agree things are less likely, I would not be shocked if the GOP could pull this off; in fact I would give it a better than 40% chance, and make no mistake .400 hitters get a lot of hits.”

    Read the rest at the Campaign Spot, the story following the post on Dorgan:

    http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

  123. Howard Dean says:

    China rules out new U.N. sanctions on Iran for now

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – China’s U.N. ambassador on Tuesday dashed Western hopes for a swift agreement on a fourth round of U.N. sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program, saying the issue requires more “time and patience.”

  124. Wes says:

    Dorgan does rob me of one thing though: I was so looking forward to watching his concession speech on Election Night. I still remember Daschle’s: In my time, I’ve seen sunrises and sunsets. I prefer sunrises.” That was one time I definitely preferred sunsets.

  125. Brandon says:

    Ritter retiring is probably a net positive for the Dems.

  126. Wes says:

    Hi, Jan. How go things?

  127. Tina says:

    Leave Barney BAg alone, his boyfriend was raising pot in his backyard, and he was arrested (house raided) Barney Bag was there, and he said that he does not know what a pot plant looks like.

  128. MD says:

    Wes,

    Imagine the scene if Keith Olbermann cleared his throat?

  129. Wes says:

    In a way, yes, Brandon. His bowing out though is reflective of the toxic environments the Dems face this year. The man won by 14 points in 2006. For him to step down rather than seek reelection speaks volumes about what’s going to happen in November.

  130. Tina says:

    The pending home sales – existin fell over 16 prtvry. prt s NAR Report.

  131. Phil says:

    If Hoeven runs, does anyone believe Pomeroy is dumb enough to vacate his house seat and run for the senate state.

    Pelosi wouldn’t be happy about that would she?

  132. Wes says:

    I’m not sure even cable would let that scene be broadcast, MD.

  133. Wes says:

    Pomeroy is the one shot the Dems have of holding that House seat, Phil. He knows he has no chance of taking the Senate seat this year. He does one of two things: retire or run for reelection while hoping for the best.

  134. MD says:

    Tina,

    Is Biden in Witless protection?

  135. Wes says:

    “Team North Dakota” was going to be broken up this year anyway. It just wasn’t sustainable in a state as presidentially Republican as ND. I would not be a bit surprised to see the GOP win both Dorgan’s and Pomeroy’s seats this year.

  136. Phil says:

    Wes, My feeling’s about Pomeroy as well.

  137. MD says:

    Pomeroy may not win reelection. A no name Dem on the Senate ticket hurts him.

  138. Brandon says:

    “A source tells Political Wire that Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter (D) is ending his re-election campaign. A fundraiser scheduled for tonight was canceled and all campaign staff was sent home in the middle of the day.”

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/01/05/ritter_dropping_out_in_colorado.html?

  139. Wes says:

    Now Herseth-Sandlin has to be looking at her political future too across the border. Up by 7 in a state Obama lost fairly handily in a toxic year for her party with some questionable votes behind her? I begin to wonde rif she too doesn’t decide to head for the exit door.

  140. Tina says:

    I have not heard much from Gaffe or H-Beast.
    They must be both in hiding.

  141. MD says:

    None of this has anything, anything to do with Obama and you are all racists if you contend otherwise.

  142. GOPGUY1980 says:

    GOP takes 9 point lead in the generic ballot vote according to the new Rasmussen poll out today:))

    GOP – 44
    DEM – 35

    Great posts tonight;)

    Take care & God Bless,

    Tommy
    aka GOPGUY1980

  143. MD says:

    I have her winning Wes. If she loses then it is a historic election.

  144. Tina says:

    Wes, exactly, what the ND guy on Levin’s Radio Program indicated tonight. I did not catch the guy’s name, but he is keyed in on the R side.

  145. Wes says:

    I’m not going to make that prediction as yet, but this election cycle could be a repeat of Jim Cox’s campaign manager’s famous statement after the 1920 election: “It wasn’t a landslide; it was an earthquake.”

  146. MD says:

    GOP,

    That will down to 3 by next month. Ras is caving into Dem pressure. That is OK. I want them to be overconfident.

  147. Tina says:

    Where oh where is the Secretary of State, you know she runs the agency that gave the entry visa to the jihadi.

    Paging the Beast???

  148. Wes says:

    MD, she’s only up by 7 right at the moment. That’s not a favorable situation for her–especially since she won last time by 30+ points.

  149. MD says:

    I thought she ran unopposed or was that in 06? Too many districts and I have looked at each one. It is not easy to keep it all straight.

  150. Tommy_Boy says:

    MD,

    I have a bad feeling about Ras caving as well. We’ll see if he shows Obama back to 46-47% in the coming days becuase this jump to 49% makes no sense.

  151. Brandon says:

    Looks like the Mayor of Denver John Hickenlooper is the most likely candidate to run in Ritter’s place.

  152. Tommy_Boy says:

    #152 You may be right that the Dems are catching a slight break with Ritter’s retirement.

  153. Tina says:

    Good analysis, gang.

    Nite.

  154. Brandon says:

    #151. But he just put out a generic ballot showing R+9, the biggest in years. I don’t think he is “caving.”

  155. Tina says:

    Its typical weekend stuff, it should fall again given the horrible economnic news about home sales, the diaper bomber, etc.

  156. Tommy_Boy says:

    #155 True. But we’ll see. Obama at 49% just makes no sense in Ras. I’d get it the increase happened durign the holiday season with people feeling more charitable but those days are supposed to be long gone.

  157. Marv says:

    #20 DQ

    Roger that.

  158. Tommy_Boy says:

    Ambinder says it’s official:

    http://twitter.com/marcambinder/status/7424630651

    “Another stunner for Dems: CO Gov. Bill Ritter is dropping out of the race.”

  159. Jan says:

    A belated Hi Wes. I was away from the computer.

    BTW – Who is the H-Beast that Tina is always referring to? Hillary???

  160. Barry says:

    I live in North Dakota and this is not a done deal unless Gov. Hoeven runs. North Dakotans often split their votes. I have seen many yardsigns during elections for the Republican President and the Democratic Senator or Representative. Pomeroy is not well liked but the republican party in my opinion is not well organized when it comes to Senate and House campaigns. Hoeven will change this if he runs he is well organized. The big question now is will Hoeven take this gift?

  161. David says:

    I called this about a week ago. Govenor Hoven was probably holding back his announcment out of respect just like Mark Warner did in VA out of respect to John Warner.

  162. D QUIXOTE says:

    #20 DQ

    Roger that.

    Comment by Marv

    Ditto I.

  163. Marv says:

    Folks,

    Don’t sweat RAS. According to Frank at Rightpundits, we were stuck with a “huge outlier” among women across all subcategories last night. I’ve posted the RAS Overall (3 days) below (HT Frank):

    “Overall (3 days)”

    Time Span : Approve / Disapprove / Difference

    1-Dec-09 : 47.24% / 51.83% / -4.59%
    2-Dec-09 : 47.09% / 51.93% / -4.84%
    3-Dec-09 : 45.99% / 53.72% / -7.73%
    4-Dec-09 : 45.75% / 53.73% / -7.98%
    5-Dec-09 : 47.35% / 51.71% / -4.36%
    6-Dec-09 : 46.87% / 51.55% / -4.68%
    7-Dec-09 : 48.85% / 49.80% / -0.95%
    8-Dec-09 : 47.04% / 51.80% / -4.76%
    9-Dec-09 : 47.51% / 52.08% / -4.57%
    10-Dec-09 : 45.89% / 52.96% / -7.07%
    11-Dec-09 : 47.20% / 51.49% / -4.29%
    12-Dec-09 : 45.74% / 52.77% / -7.03%
    13-Dec-09 : 45.66% / 53.48% / -7.82%
    14-Dec-09 : 44.02% / 54.64% / -10.62%
    15-Dec-09 : 45.93% / 53.11% / -7.18%
    16-Dec-09 : 45.35% / 53.80% / -8.45%
    17-Dec-09 : 45.83% / 53.83% / -8.00%
    18-Dec-09 : 44.13% / 55.07% / -10.94%
    19-Dec-09 : 45.46% / 53.44% / -7.98%
    20-Dec-09 : 45.55% / 53.34% / -7.79%
    21-Dec-09 : 45.56% / 53.20% / -7.64%
    22-Dec-09 : 43.50% / 55.93% / -12.43%
    23-Dec-09 : 44.58% / 54.87% / -10.29%
    23-Dec-09 : 44.58% / 54.87% / -10.29%
    24-Dec-09 : 44.16% / 55.67% / -11.51%
    28-Dec-09 : 47.02% / 52.43% / -5.41%
    29-Dec-09 : 46.47% / 52.90% / -6.43%
    30-Dec-09 : 46.98% / 52.05% / -5.07%
    31-Dec-09 : 45.94% / 52.99% / -7.05%
    4-Jan-10 : 47.15% / 51.93% / -4.78%
    5-Jan-10 : 48.63% / 50.75% / -2.12%

    “Huge outlier overnight.”

  164. Marv says:

    DQ,

    Per chance are we already acquainted?

  165. D QUIXOTE says:

    Per chance. who knows???

  166. Marv says:

    One bar looks that same as the last one.

  167. D QUIXOTE says:

    Go ugly early.

  168. Marv says:

    Yep.

  169. Marv says:

    New thread. I’m headed there.

  170. D QUIXOTE says:

    Based at DFW