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CO: Hickenlooper Surges In Gov

Democrats chances of holding gubernatorial seat in Colorado look much better in a new poll from Scott Rasmussen.

GOVERNOR – COLORADO (Rasmussen)
John Hickenlooper (D) 49%
Scott McInnis (R) 45%

McIniis has lead by 3% in a poll taken just last month by Scott Rasmussen, a 7% swing in a single month. This poll was done February 4th among 500 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 3:20 pm
Filed under: 2010 Governor - CO | Comments (150)

150 Responses to “CO: Hickenlooper Surges In Gov”

  1. Big Joe says:

    1

  2. addisonst says:

    who dat who dat who dat sayin is #1

  3. addisonst says:

    Or 2.

    And hasta la byebye to Mr. Murtha. We thank you for your service to our country and not so much for your service in the Congress.

  4. Sean says:

    I would have expected something like 49-45 McInnis… However, I believe this poll was taken on one of the days that had an outlier among independent men… Too close to call…

  5. Bill says:

    Acacording to Rasmussen Obamas popularity stood at -6% at the time this poll was taken whch was the hgh on his last run up. That may have a bearing on the poll.

  6. Brandon says:

    But in this same sample, Norton was up 14 over Bennet.

  7. rdelbov says:

    This same poll had Norton +14 on Bennett. The indies split between ballots.

    I think at this point its mostly name ID edge as McInnis is 8 years removed from congressional duty. The tax loving Hickenlooper will fall in the fall.

  8. Brooks says:

    RIP John Murtha

    Politically he went too far left, but he was a Vietnam Vet.

    Pray for his soul

  9. MD says:

    8 – Well said Brooks.

  10. Sean says:

    Hickenlooper – McInnis will actually depend on the campaign. I think Bennet is toast no matter what if Jane Norton is the Republican nominee.

  11. Sean says:

    My prediction is Norton will be declared victorious an hour or two after polls close… The governor race could go later…

  12. Wes says:

    Hickenlooper picked the wrong year to run.

  13. Chekote says:

    BTW, that “green police” ad gives a window of what America will look like should the environuts get their way.

  14. Chekote says:

    Colorado will go red this year.

  15. Sean says:

    I believe if McInnis runs a good campaign, he will win… If he doesn’t, Hick may win…

  16. MD says:

    They intended for their commercial to be funny. It was anything but.

  17. MD says:

    Sean,

    It looks like Norton wins easily. I think McGinnis will pull it out if this turns into a red tide.

  18. Chekote says:

    #16

    Inadvertently stumbled on the truth.

  19. Sean says:

    I am more confident about the Senate than I am about the Governorship… I’d give Norton a 90% chance and McInnis a 75-80% chance of winning…

  20. Brooks says:

    Argentina is starting to veer to the Right also.

    The Conservatives down there won the Lower House of Parliament, and when seated will derail the Leftist agenda.

  21. Sean says:

    MD – I agree… With Murtha’s death, would you say the Republicans have a very good chance of capturing his seat?

  22. Wes says:

    Looking at the numbers, I have to say Hickenlooper and McInnis start off with approximately equal bases of support. Denver and McInnis’ old congressional district have about the same number of people. Hickenlooper has the disadvantage of being a left-wing
    Dem running in a poor environment for his party. Unless McInnis is caught in bed with the proverbial live boy or dead girl, I have to handicap it for him.

  23. Wes says:

    Will Rendell call a special to replace Murtha, MD?

  24. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    “Deja Vu All Over Again? [Daniel Foster]

    The Democrats’ latest thinking on the promise and peril (emphasis on the latter) of reonciliation (emphasis added):

    But a Democratic source familiar with the meeting said there was quite a bit of discussion about reform, largely running over well-worn ground. Specifically, Democratic leaders and the president discussed whether Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid can wrangle 51 votes for a reconciliation bill — a decision he hopes to make next week. Pelosi expressed frustration with the pace of progress and the president’s decision not to weigh in publicly on a way forward, according to the source.”

    http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/

  25. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    “‘Not Starting Over’ [Tevi Troy]

    A White House official told the Washington Post that President Obama’s Blair House summit on health care “is not starting over . . . Don’t make any mistake about that.” The official added that “we are coming with our plan. They can bring their plan.” If they are not willing start over, I am not sure what they hope to accomplish substantively from the summit. Politically, however, the intent is clear: The president is looking to reprise his Baltimore debate with the Republicans, but not to give any ground on substance. If this is the case, Republicans should treat the upcoming exercise as a debate, and come prepared with arguments in favor of their own plans, as well as rebuttals of the Obama plan.

    While it would be great if the president and the Democrats were serious about finding a bipartisan alternative, they do not appear ready to take those steps yet. Still, it was not long ago that even a bipartisan summit was unexpected, and the White House is effectively acknowledging, after a long “party of no” campaign, that there are other ideas on health care out there besides their own. Republicans should bring their A game on the 25th, and be prepared to show — politely, but with conviction — why their ideas on health care are superior.”

    http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/

  26. Wes says:

    Well, at least Wilye’s not being paid by the word for his posts anymore.

  27. MD says:

    Yes and it will most likely fall on the primary date of May 18.

    Naturally, this will favor the Dems because of the heated primary between Specter and Sestak. So, the Dems could keep this seat temporarily although that is not a given.

    I am 99.9999% sure that the seat goes red in November.

  28. Phil says:

    Agree with Wes. Environment for Democrats not good in Colorado. I think McInnis has the inside track regardless of this poll.

  29. Wes says:

    If it goes to the GOP on Primary Day, then the Dems must know they will be in incredibly deep trouble in November.

  30. Brooks says:

    DOW closes at 9,908.00

  31. Wes says:

    By the way, before the Superbowl yesterday, I went to see Legion. I’m afraid the fact that all three of the prominently featured young women were ultimately almost the only portion of it I can recommend. It had occasionally competent special effects, a couple of scares, and every now and then a bit of stylishness. Nothing really worthwile though. The fact that two characters disappear offstage despite prominent featuring and are never mentioned again doesn’t help. Nor do the muddled script and laughable angel wings–yes, i said angel wings–sported by two major characters. Unless you’re really bored, I can’t really recommend it.

  32. Wes says:

    A 104-point loss isn’t a good thing, Brooks.

  33. MD says:

    The market is mourning Murtha.

  34. Wes says:

    I think the market is mourning the loss of freedom in the US under a would-be dictator of a banana republic rather than John Murtha, MD.

  35. KnightHawk says:

    Sounds like Patterson is about to have a sex scandal break. Lol.

  36. Wes says:

    That’s nothing new for a Dem Governor of New York, Knight.

  37. Howard Dean says:

    One less corrupt-deficit supporting politician in the House.

    Bring on the Special Election.

  38. Big Joe says:

    Do 9700 is the next buying opportunity

  39. Phil says:

    Dems have an advantage if the special election is on primary day with the Dem primary so competitive. However, remember it’s primary day for Republicans.

    They can win this thing.

  40. Big Joe says:

    *Dow 9700*

  41. Wes says:

    Phil, I think MD’s point was that the Dems have an energetic primary for Specter’s Senate seat while the GOP will have two fairly innocuous top-level primary contests with Toomey and Corbett essentially already guaranteed the nomination. Assuming by May the Seane race doesn’t turn into a blowout either way, Dems will have a somewhat higher turnout across PA than the GOP. How that will play out in Murtha’s district remains to be seen though, for the district has been becoming more Republican recently. Assuming the Republicans have a strong candidate in the race, they should have a shot of picking it off six months early. We’ll see.

  42. Howard Dean says:

    With Murtha gone, however, the special election will be seriously contested. Murtha’s district is the only one in the country won by Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004 and by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2008, according to Republican sources, and that trend line coupled with the volatile national environment for Democrats ensures Republicans will heavily target the contest.

    WAPO

  43. Wes says:

    Pete Sessions seriously needs to get a top recruit in the district, Howie. He hasn’t beaten van Hollen in any of four special elections thus far. Of course Emanuel didn’t beat Reynolds in any special elections before 2006 either, so that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

  44. Chekote says:

    #40

    May have to jump in.

  45. Chekote says:

    Pete Sessions seriously needs to get a top recruit in the district, Howie.

    I took a lot of grief for poiting out that Pete Sessions is not the best man for the job. People NEED to listen to Chekote.

  46. rdelbov says:

    I guess the party will select nominees if the special is held on 05-18-2010. Not sure if there is time for a primary.

    Bill Russell who was the 2008 GOP nominee and has basically never stopped running for this seat is the overwhelming GOP favorite.

    I am not sure there is democratic favorite.

    I disagree with the idea that the Specter-Sestak primary would be a draw in western PA. Face facts-Specter & Sestak are endearing pols and both are from Eastern PA. Murtha’s 12th district is a blue collar ethnic democratic district and neither Specter or Stesak fit that catagory.

    This special if on the 18th will about the election of a congressmen and not the primary ballot. Ironically Murtha was elected in a watergate referumdum house race on Nixon. This race will be about Obama & HC.

  47. Chekote says:

    How much do I hate Specter? I would vote for Palin if she ran against him.

  48. Phil says:

    I agree, in the special on primary day, it’s an advantage for the Democrats with their competitive primary. No doubt. We can still win it with a really strong grassroots push but yeah, it would be a bit uphill.

    I do think we get it back in November even if we lose the special. BTW, Cook already has changed it to tossup. Wow, didn’t take ol Charlie that long, did it?

  49. Wes says:

    Chekote, you openly lust after Van Jones, think Scott Brown needs to be the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, and tell then to not even worry about challenging Chet Edwards. I often enjoy your commentary, but statements like the above often have the effect of putting you down there with Alan the Idiot and Tommy_Boy in terms of political acumen.

  50. Brandon says:

    Yeah, the nominee is selected by the county chairs.

    I think State Sen. John Wozniak would be the Democratic frontrunner.

  51. Wes says:

    Murtha’s victory was the catalyst for the complete cratering of GOP support for Nixon in 1974, Rdel. In fact, it was one of the primary reasons Nixon resigned.

  52. MD says:

    Rdel,

    I never contended that a Dem victory in the special was a foregone conclusion. It is not. It just helps that the Sestak/Specter primary has the chance to be close.

    However, Sestak has not been polling well and his campaign is a mess from an organizational perspective. There are rumors that he will back down and run for his seat again. He needs to do that within the next 4 weeks or else there will be chaos on the Dem side.

    Wes – I was kidding about Murtha and the market.

  53. Wes says:

    I know, MD. I wasn’t kidding about Obama though.

  54. MD says:

    Russell is the obvious pick for the seat. I don’t know of anyone else on the GOP in that district who is viable.

  55. Chekote says:

    Wes

    Van Jones and Scott Brown are hot! Get over it. If you can have Porn Chick Hour, I can drool over them. I said Chet Edwards looks beatable on paper but always manages to win. Remember that Tom DeLay targeted his district and re-drew it so that it would be a GOP pick up. Edwards still managed to win. Go ahead challenge him but don’t be surprised if he wins. That’s all I am saying.

  56. MD says:

    Chek,

    The porn chicks are NOT politicians. Therein, lies the difference.

  57. MD says:

    Wes,

    The Murtha district was as red as you could get prior to 74.

  58. Gary Maxwell says:

    45

    Despite the beatdown you continue to spout this nonsense. You dont know anything about what you are talking about, and although you continued for sometime to make the assertion that Sessions recruited Scozzafava, when he had nothing to do with it. The NY party chairs from the rural counties of that district picked her.

    Why not try a big heaping helping of STFU for a change?

  59. MD says:

    I didn’t want the guy to die but excuse me if I don’t shed tears. What he did to our Marines was unacceptable.

  60. MD says:

    GM,

    NY 23 illustrates why we need primaries. The R was the worse choice of all 3 candidates. I would have rather had the Dem win than her and I said so many times.

    We are going to take that seat as well in November.

  61. Chekote says:

    Edwards district has two huge colleges: Baylor and A&M. It is like Austin. College towns go blue.

  62. Chekote says:

    After what Murtha said about our military, I will shed no tears for him. What he said was despicable.

  63. justsayin' says:

    The steady drumbeat for Marco Rubio keeps going on and on. Today he is picking up the endorsement of Congressman Mike Pence.

  64. MD says:

    Edwards goes down by 3 to 5. It will not be a blowout but the college kids are not apt to turnout in anywhere near the %’s as 08 and Edwards barely squeaked through.

    Stick a fork in him.

  65. Chekote says:

    Pete Session is incompetent. And if it weren’t for his daddy he would not be in Congress. As the head of NRCC, Sessions has input over recruitment. Especially, when a primary does not take place. Sorry to point out the truth about your “friend”.

  66. MD says:

    Justsayin,

    I am actually stunned that Crist went to the LEFT of Rubio on immigration. The only chance Charlie had was to go to the right and he blew it.

    I really don’t understand his strategy. It is like he wants to lose.

  67. MD says:

    I guess Sessions is an ardent pro-lifer. I think he is doing a very, very good job.

  68. Chekote says:

    Stick a fork in him.

    I will ask a woman that runs campaigns what she thinks about Edwards this year. She knows local politics.

  69. hello dolly says:

    Pray for Murtha? One has a whole lifetime to choose to accept or reject
    Jesus (His sacrifice on the cross for your sin) When a person dies, their spirit and soul leave the body. Holy Angels
    carry the believer in Jesus to Heaven. If not a believer, then demonic
    spirits (Death and Hades) take that soul and spirit to Hell. There is no neutral stance
    when it comes to Salvation in Jesus. Rejection means damnation.
    Read John, Chapter 3.
    Where is Murtha now? Only the Lord knows.

  70. Chekote says:

    Sessions endorsed Giuliani for POTUS. Hardly an ardent pro-lifer. He is incompetent. He compared the GOP to the Taliban. Something that Barney Frank can agree with.

  71. Gary Maxwell says:

    Baylor is very conservative due to the Southern Baptist affilation , and A & M is probably the most conservative large college in the country. Edwards got 51% last go around. A decent opponent will topple him, and a great opponent will bury him.

  72. Chekote says:

    Crist folder like a cheap suit once pressure was on. Rubio still rubs me the wrong way. He seems like a young turk, know it all.

  73. Wes says:

    I’m aware, MD. Had the Republican representing the district not died in 1973, then Murtha would likely have never started his political career. Unfortunately it took till the end of his life before his voters realized how loony he really was.

  74. Chekote says:

    A decent opponent will topple him, and a great opponent will bury him.

    Van Taylor was thought to be a great opponent. Did lousy.

  75. Chekote says:

    #73

    I have not respect for the Murtha voters. The last go around he called racists. They still voted for him. Pathetic.

  76. MD says:

    Chek will NOT be silenced!!

  77. Wes says:

    Edwards has never run in a district clearly drawn to favor the GOP in a bad year for the Dems. He did run in 1994, but Texas’ CD still looked like a World War I battefield at the time. Not surprisingly he won easily. This will be a much different year from any Edwards has ever stood before his voters during. It will not surprise me if he loses.

  78. Wes says:

    That was in 2006, Chek. In 2008, while outspending his opponent by a huge margin, Edwards saw his margin over Taylor drop by 2/3. You do the math this time.

  79. hello dolly says:

    For more than 26 years, Congressman John P. “Jack” Murtha (D-Penn.) has not been truthful about his involvement in Abscam, court records and the complete video of his meeting with the FBI show.
    In recent years, only a 13-second video of Murtha’s videotaped meeting with the FBI agents was publicly available. TAS has obtained a copy of the full, original video from a source close to the Abscam investigation on the condition of anonymity. The court transcript is publicly available at the National Archives.

  80. Chekote says:

    Wes

    You are not counting 2004. That was after the DeLay redistricting. He is a tough nut to crack. That’s all I am saying.

  81. Wes says:

    Dolly, Murtha’s dead. That would be a salient political tape if he were alive and running for reelection. He’s gone now. Let it go.

  82. MD says:

    He barely won in a strong Dem year! Case closed. Sessions will be hailed as a hero, justly or not, after the R’s gain more than enough seats to take control of the House.

  83. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    “Thanks to these embargoes, inflationary price increases, and the consequences of the growing environmental movement, making other forms of energy harder and harder to produce, energy did become a major concern for the public in the 1970’s, and, true to his Democrat tradition, Carter “solved” this crisis by establishing a new federal bureaucracy and creating the concept of “federal energy policy”, basically taking what was a private concern and putting it, at least partly, under control of the federal government.

    What confuses me is why conservatives would accept this history and adopt this Carter era stupidity as their own. We are supposed to be the party of individual initiative and free enterprise. So, why are we promoting any sort of “energy policy”?”

    http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/

  84. MD says:

    Sadly, Murtha was able to get away with his corruption for many decades. Not only that, but the Dems made him into an example.

    Very strange. Still, he is gone and what benefit to we get from digging up ABSCAM?

  85. Wes says:

    At this point, Chek, I have to ask if you and Edwards are having an affair. You puff him endlessly. Notice what I said though: In a district designed to favor the GOP in a bad year for his party. Dems lost 7 seats in 2004 while the GOP gave up 4 for a net GOP gain of 3. That hardly strikes me as a bad year for the Dems. 2010 will be the first time redistricting and the national environment have worked together on a grand scale against Edwards.

  86. rdelbov says:

    A note on Texas for those who know Texas

    sigh-Baylor is the Baptist Harvard is fairly Red-McLennon county where Waco TX is located has voted more republican then the state of texas for years. if anyone from Texas thinks Baylor is like UT Texas or is Cambridge on the Brazos they don’t know Texas.

    I have know a few folks who graduated from Texas A & M and blue liberal does not describe them or Texas A & M. College Station and Brazos county is actual a little redder then Waco and is also redder then Texas as a whole.

    Texas went 55% for McClain-Brazos was 64% McCain and McLennon was 62% McCain

    Does this sound Blue to anyone?

  87. Gary Maxwell says:

    He got 51% in a terrible year for Republicans in general. If I knew the Republican challenger, I would lay good money on Edwards being asked to walk the plank by his district voters. A strong conservative will win. Let see who gets the nomination.

  88. Marv says:

    Hi Folks,

    How’s everyone doing? Charlie Cook moved Murtha’s PA 12 to “Toss-up”.

    http://www.cookpolitical.com/races/house/chart.php#belowMap

  89. Gary Maxwell says:

    Rdel thanks for the backup on the point. These are not liberal oasis towns. Only our resident dip chit would make sure a foolish assertion, it like she does not live in Texas!

  90. Wes says:

    How go things, Marv?

  91. Chekote says:

    I have to ask if you and Edwards are having an affair.

    The thought of me being attracted to other men just drives you crazy, Wes. :)

    Look. Edwards should have been defeated a long time ago. Maybe 2010 is the charm.

  92. Wes says:

    I think Chekote just prides herself on being contrarian, Gary. Sometimes I wonder if she doesn’t make her points simply for the purpose of sitrring up a debate.

  93. Wes says:

    I hope it is, Chek.

  94. Marv says:

    Wes, well today, thanks.

  95. Chekote says:

    Texas went 55% for McClain-Brazos was 64% McCain and McLennon was 62% McCain

    Edwards still managed to win. He has a core vote in the district. People who may vote for the GOP at the POTUS level and still vote for him for Congress. College students are more liberal than older voters even in Texas.

  96. Wes says:

    That’s good to know, Marv. What did you think of the Superbowl?

  97. MD says:

    Yea, Charlie didn’t even wait for the body to cool down! Honestly, for the Nov election, I would call it solid red.

  98. Wes says:

    How many PA districts do you expect to flip, MD?

  99. Chekote says:

    Obama in Texas won 54% of the 18-29 vote in 2008.

  100. hello dolly says:

    #84
    Bringing up Murtha’s past sins in government tells you something
    about his character. Term limits may be the answer for all the politicians in Congress to curb corruption and self aggrandizement.

  101. Wes says:

    Dolly, bringing up Murtha’s past sins would be relevant if Murtha were still alive. He’s not. As for term limits, California and Michigan both have strict term limits for the Governor and State Legislature. How’s that working out for them?

  102. Marv says:

    Wes,

    Super Bowl was a great game. Too bad about Manning’s interception. Nielsen said it was the most watched television show ever, surpassing the final episode of M*A*S*H*.

  103. Gary Maxwell says:

    Wes

    It fine to have your own opinions, its not fine to have your own facts. To claim that Baylor and Texas A & M are liberal oasis towns is so ludicrous that it needs to be pointed out. She knows little about what she is talking about, 90% of the time. She ought to read, reflect and not post most of the time. She might actually learn something if she did. I am not holding my breathe on it happening, but I do enjoy the beatdown of such an idiot on occasion.

  104. Wes says:

    Honestly I don’t care about a dead man’s character. If he were alive and running for reelection, then I’d say it’s a very relevant topic. He’s neither. Let it go. Move on.

  105. KnightHawk says:

    STAY OUT OF MY PEZ DISPENSER

  106. KnightHawk says:

    opps wrong forum. ;)

  107. Wes says:

    I was stunned at the Manning interception too, Marv. Apparently the Colts were simply astounded it happened. They all responded a second too late. By that time, it was too late to prevent the inevitable.

  108. Wes says:

    Knighthawk, I know which Superbowl commercial was your favorite.

  109. Wes says:

    …That is, I believe I do…

  110. Chekote says:

    She ought to read, reflect and not post most of the time.

    First of all, I have not been posting much lately. Your input here is nothing more than a regurgitation of conservative, talking points that people can pick up anywhere. Obama won the 18-29 vote in Texas. But he lost every other group. So much for students in Texas being “conservative”.

  111. Marv says:

    I hate Obama’s Green Police.

  112. Wes says:

    That was a really creepy commercial during the Superbowl, I have to say, Marv.

  113. Marv says:

    Who is available for the Reps in PA 12?

  114. Chekote says:

    I don’t think it is a good idea for the GOP to have an open forum with Obama. All the MSM will do is go on and on about Obama’s command of the issues. His analytical mind. His intellectual curiosity. Like they did during the “Question Time” recently.

  115. Chekote says:

    #112

    Very eye opening.

  116. MD says:

    Wes,

    I think 5 will flip:

    3, 4, 7, 11 and 12

    We could seriously contest in the following:

    8, 10, 13 and 17

    1 of the 4 could prove to be an upset. I am a little hesitant on CD 4 because Hart would not run. If I am wrong on 4 then one of the others will go come through.

  117. Gary Maxwell says:

    As usual, your input here is usually to try to cover up what idiocy you post when called on it. As RDel pointed out – McCain carried both counties. Your point about the college campuses, shows no depth of thought and a startling lack of understanding of both Universities.

    The University of Texas on the other hand is very liberal and Travis Co reflects that.

    I did not realize that folks 22 to 29 were college students, or that every single 18 to 22 year old went to college.

    Or further you could wrap up all the other colleges, like massive UT, and all young people in Texas and make a conclusion about Baylor and A & M. Two of the least liberal colleges in the country not run by Jerry Falwell!!!!

    Got any more chuckles for us?

  118. MD says:

    Chek is making friends again. Sounds like a title to a future children’s book.

  119. Gary Maxwell says:

    10 potential pick ups in Pa? Whoa. It will be a biblical flood if you are close to correct.

  120. Chekote says:

    GM

    Edwards so far wins his district. He has a core vote that may split the ticket. You paint a picture of Texas as this solid, conservative state that will stay in the red column forever. The reality is much more complex than that and Texas is a much more diverse state than you portray.

    I moved to Texas in 1975. Back then there were still a lot of yellow dog Democrats. Back then the Baptists ruled Dallas and the state. No lotto allowed. A lot of “dry” areas. Certain items could not be sold on Sunday. All of that is gone except for a few “dry” areas. The picture you present of Texas is still stuck in 1975. You can read all you want but you have a very closed mind.

  121. Chekote says:

    MD

    GM presents a distorted picture of Texas. It is much more urban and diverse than he presents it.

  122. Gary Maxwell says:

    Yeah and Baylor and A & M have become liberal Universities too I guess? LOL

  123. Chekote says:

    The University of Texas on the other hand is very liberal and Travis Co reflects that.

    It is not just the university that makes Travis country blue. Texas government is based out of there and they have a lot of government workers who vote Dems. The high-tech people are more diverse and tend to be liberal. It not just UT.

  124. Gary Maxwell says:

    Been here since 81. Lived in both South Texas and North Texas. Seen blue laws fade, but liquor restrictions still hold even in a 5 million plus metroplex like Dallas Ft Worth. Democrats held most offices when I got here, but they sure dont now. Not a single statewide officeholder including all the judges who are elected. Gone like the blue laws, and I dont miss either!

  125. Chekote says:

    Yeah and Baylor and A & M have become liberal Universities too I guess?

    No GM. They are exclusively lily white enclaves. They don’t drink, dance or smoke just like all good Baptists. :roll:

  126. Diogenes says:

    Urban and diverse? It’s still a conservative state by far. Yes, the economy has transitioned to a services-oriented one from an energy-producing one and for the better. This just makes the state even more republican as it has the fastest-growing exurbs and suburbs in the nation. This is a state of winners, not losers.

    Only fools and thieves practice the politics of punishing success and rewarding failure that you see in Michigan and California.

  127. Gary Maxwell says:

    Flailing to change the subject I see. Tell us again how liberal the Baylor Baptists Bears are! Or how about those liberal aggies, with the Corpse ( according to you ) of Cadets! LOL

  128. Chekote says:

    It’s still a conservative state by far.

    What makes Texas successful is the fact that they are a right to work state and they don’t have a state income tax. As long as that stays in place, we will do fine. If we start tinkering with it, we will be screwed like the rest of the country.

  129. Chekote says:

    Yes Gary. Every single person that attends A&M is a cadet. BTW, minority cadets do vote Dem. Oh wait! There are no minorities in Texas. :roll:

  130. Gary Maxwell says:

    NO NO NO every single 18 – 29 year olds attend either Baylor or A & M. Get your talking points lined up correctly!

  131. rdelbov says:

    Edwards has won for several reasons.

    1. friends & family-unrelenting courtship of his home area. He spents 800K a year in taxpayer dollars winning friends for his re-election.

    2. Can you say Pork? He looks after his contract-especially the military side and military related jobs.

    3. Edwards votes less liberal then most democrats-still has some liberal votes.

    Similar pattern to Gene Taylor of MS.

    Can he be beat? His wins are more about geographic-hometown pride-pork barrelling then anything. If there is anthing to the Teaparty movement he is in deep trouble.

  132. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    #129 Wrong – only a portion of the A&M student body are Cadets. Geesh, your talking point are way off….

    Back to the DNC or KOS hang out for you!

  133. Gary Maxwell says:

    Rdel

    No Gene Taylor is pretty conservative, Edwards just plays one come election time.

  134. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    MMMMM mMMMMMM mmmmmm:

    http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZGI1NTc2NDgzYzk1ZWEwMTMxYmViOGU3MmFmNzE3YjI=

    “However, we likely are too far into the political season to expect a genuine exchange of ideas. Democrats believe their interlocking chain of mandates, taxes, and expansion of government control over virtually every aspect of health care is the only viable solution.

    And that is the basic disconnect that will make agreement so difficult. Republicans would never agree, nor should they, to plugging a few of their ideas into the monstrous bill the White House and congressional leaders have devised. This legislation cannot be redeemed. They know that.

    Starting over is the only genuine solution, but the president has taken that off the table. A White House statement Sunday said Obama is “adamant about passing comprehensive reform similar to the bills passed by the House and the Senate.” That clearly shows the intent of the summit is about showmanship, not solutions.

    So health care will again dominate the airwaves for the rest of February with little to show for it except a battle over who can score the most political points.

    Beleaguered House Democrats are likely among those most discouraged by the latest announcement since they had hoped to change the conversation to jobs and the economy as they head home for recess next week.

    Nope. Health care will stay in the spotlight. For better or, most likely, for worse.”

  135. Chekote says:

    #132

    Not according to GM. Everybody at A&M is a cadet and votes Republican. I have no idea how Obama managed to get 45% of the vote in Texas. It is such a conservative state one would expect Obama to only get 33% as he did in WY.

  136. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    “Tea Party Majority

    Share Post PrintFebruary 8, 2010 Posted by John at 1:44 PM

    Scott Rasmussen finds that 75% of likely voters are either “very angry” or “somewhat angry” about the federal government’s current policies. A plurality of 45% are “very angry,” up nine points since September. A mere 19% say they are not very or not at all angry about the federal government’s policies.

    That’s a lot of anger for the Democrats to overcome between now and November.”

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025549.php

  137. Wylie E. Coyote - Super Genius says:

    #135 I would expect the majority of the to vote R, cadet or not – thats a valid assumption

  138. Phil says:

    I graduated from Texas A&M. Liberal? In Baylor & A&M you have two of the most conservative campuses in the nation. As someone said earlier, A&M is indeed one of the most conservative big universities in the country.

    Edwards may win but if he does it’s going to be by a hair. He outspent a little known Republican candidate during a the hope and change election of 2008 when every black in Waco and Bryan turned out for Obama. Edwards spent 2.1 million to 109 thousand and the Republican got 46%. Guess what? Obama isn’t on the ballot and the Republican candidate will match Edwards dollar for dollar.

  139. Gary Maxwell says:

    Strawman alert. Go find where I said “every student at A & M is a cadet, or “every student at A & M votes Republican.” Please quote me exactly and note the post number.

    Because you cant. You argue like your think, dishonestly and with little factual support.

    You on the other hand, conflated all 18-29 year old in Texas with the students on Baylor and A & M campuses, which of course is nonsense.

    But then after making the assertion about how liberal Edwards district is, you really had to use some sleight of hand or just admit you did not know what you were talking about, AGAIN.

  140. Phil says:

    McCain carried the 17th district 67-32.

    Bush carried it 70-30 over Kerry.

    Yep, those lefty colleges Baylor and A&M….

  141. Diogenes says:

    Why is there so much talk about Edwards? He is a pretty conservative democrat is he not? I’d rather knock of liberalnazis like Alan Grayson who ignore their red constituents.

  142. Wes says:

    Chekote may be wrong about why Edwards wins, Phil, but she does have a point: As yet, the GOP hasn’t beaten him. His number may be up in 2010 though. If so, it will be a very long time before a Dem wins that seat again.

  143. Wes says:

    Dio, there really are no conservative Dems in Congress. Edwards votes abvout 80% of the time with his party. You can call that conservative if you want, but I call it left wing.

  144. sam says:

    “Dolly, bringing up Murtha’s past sins would be relevant if Murtha were still alive.”

    Not entirely valid. Bringing up Murtha’s past sins warns everyone about the next Murtha-wannabe. His sins need to be a lesson about greed, hubris, lies and plain old stupidity.

  145. Wes says:

    Well, Sam, it’s not as if we haven’t 434 living members of Congress to serve as examples of that.

  146. Wes says:

    Sorry, 534…I forgot to add the Senate into my calculations.

  147. sam says:

    Wes,

    Sorry, Murtha serves as an outstanding example. Not my fault that he died.

    If you want to add another 534 examples, go for it.

  148. BPL in Scottsdale says:

    61. Not A&M, sweetie. Much more conservative than Austin.

  149. BPL in Scottsdale says:

    72 “Rubio still rubs me the wrong way. He seems like a young turk, know it all.”

    And you come across as a young loon, know-nothing-at-all.

    Go back to your parents’ basement. BTW, the rent is due, freeloader.

  150. Phil says:

    Whoever wins the Republican primary will wrap Pelosi around Edwards’ neck.

    This time the folks are angry – angry as hell and Edwards won’t be able to outspend his opponent 20 to 1.

    Again, the AA vote won’t be what it was in 08. Bad news for Edwards because with indies fleeing Democrats in every race in the nation, ol Chet is going to need every vote he can get. Blacks make up 10% of the district and virtually all of them voted in 08 because of Obama. Obama isn’t on the ballot this cycle.

    Rob Curnock got 46% in 2008 with no money, no name recognition, higher than normal black turnout, terrible political environment for Republicans…..

    You get the picture.