KY: Paul Opens Up Huge Lead Over Grayson
Thanks for Bunu in the comments for finding this new poll from Magellan Strategies that shows Rand Paul may be running away with the Republican nomination for the US Senate.
US SENATE – KENTUCKY (Magellan)
Rand Paul 44%
Trey Grayson 23%
Paul’s father doesn’t fare nearly as well in the 2012 Republican Presidential primary.
PRESIDENT – KENTUCKY – GOP PRIMARY (Magellan)
Sarah Palin 28%
Mike Huckabee 24%
Mitt Romney 16%
Newt Gingrich 12%
Ron Paul 4%
Tim Pawlenty 2%
This poll was done February 18th among 560 likely voters.
1st
Don’t encourage Bunu by using his name in a
new thread. Or should I say Jerry Withrow???
1st
don’t tell MD or bunu about paul
uhh i mean 3rd
If I find out who paid for this poll or whether it’s legitimate, I’ll post.
I don’t know much about this group though.
Pretty shocking result there, is Paul in?
http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2010_0223/swall.htm
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/Enight.asP
The Florida Chamber Rubio, 48; Crist, 30
I read that Jeb Bush helped engineer Rubio’s bid for the senate?
MFG- What did you think of Paul’s CPAC win. He only got 11% last year to this year’s 33%.
There were more voters this year. Paul’s college group he formed called YAL brough in about 800 people (at least ones who voted.)
You think Romney, T-Paw, Palin or any of these people have a snowballs chance in hell of topping that next year especially since YAL will most likely boost their efforts to repeat next year?
Really the only way to defeat Paul at this point will be to not invite him.
Hopefully the John Birch Society will sponsor again to prevent this attempt.
“HELENA, Mont. (AP) — States again saw sharp declines in tax collections in the last quarter of 2009 — a record fifth straight quarterly drop, according to a new report that predicts more looming spending cuts or tax increases.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/23/naacp-honor-van-jones-national-treasure/
12. Nobody freaking cares Bunu!
Nobody sane, at least.
#15
Did you say something?
Is CPAC the primaries? How many delegates does Paul get by winning CPAC jerk-off?
Who the he** is Paul? If no one knows him, does he really exist?
Europe plans compulsory maternity leave for 20 weeks…
16. You just illustrated the point. Thanks
The only good thing about that poll is that 44 + 23 is only 67, there are still a lot people undecided even with Johnson running. Grayson needs to connect Rand Paul to his extreme positions on terrorism, 9/11, Guantanamo, the military, Afghanistan, Patriot Act, etc. which are not the positions of KY Republicans.
Ron Paul has 4% for President, so KY Republicans know he is a nutcase, the question is can Grayson convince voters the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. It should not be that hard, there is plenty of video out there of Rand Paul saying really stupid things.
“Really the only way to defeat Paul at this point will be to not invite him.”
Now there is a good idea, considering he is a fake Republican and a fake conservative.
argh. I missed the new thread by a mile. Since the Crist-Rubio matchup was mentioned, I’ll repost this time:
For those thinking Charlie Crist might switch parties, take a look at this interview. He is waiting for the end of the legislative session and then will get his message out. He does not believe he will lose the primary, and it sounds like he is planning to hit Rubio hard.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/22/fl-sen_crist_says_no_way_hell_lose_primary.html
17. L Ron Paul winning the CPAC straw poll is like the unpopular fat girl winning Homecoming Queen as joke among the student body. She doesn’t realize it was all a scam.
Oh great. Little jason’s obsession with linking mainstream Rand to his father, L Ron, continues. Can we just take a break from it for one lousy night. My God.
The only way you win CPAC is to stack it with your supporters. That’s how Romney did it the last three years.
However, Paul’s organization is starting to reach critical mass. I saw Romney and T-Paw interviewed there, and they had a paid organizational staff that was campaigning for votes and petitioning various booths to win the straw poll.
Paul did none of this. He just showed up, and won.
Marcus Carey is one of the GOP congressional district leaders I believe…don’t know which one. There are only 5-6 of them in Kentucky.
He did a podcast on Paul over the weekend.
Marcus Carey perspective podcast
Thanks Wissing. 2.116
“The only way you win CPAC is to stack it with your supporters. That’s how Romney did it the last three years.”
Did that give Romney the rep nomination? or the presidency?
If nutjob jr. Wins the primary then I go from +9 in the sen to +8 or worse.
Oh and Crist is done for 10. He knows it and everyone in his campaign knows it. He needs to have a combo of saving face and redeeming himself for his incredible lapses of judgement in order to be viable in future elections.
Don’t blame me! I didn’t tell him to hug Barry.
Oh great. Little jason’s obsession with linking mainstream Rand to his father”
Uhhh, BPL, you are not too swift, but maybe you can answer this:
Exactly which of these Rand Paul positions do you think is mainstream Republican:
- Against the Patriot Act
- Against FISA
- Wants to pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq
- On 9/11 thinks “there is truth on both sides”
- Wants to close Guantanamo and release prisoners “back to their own countries” or to Afghanistan where “it will take awhile for them to get back here”.
- Wants to cut the military budget to “balance the budget”
- Thinks we should seek out the “roots of terrorism” (code for US to blame)
- Thinks Iran having nuclear weapons is “not a threat” and “Iran feels threatened by US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq”
Did not even mention the “competing currencies” and “auditing the Fed”
and other kooky economic ideas.
30. Whoops, forgot “cutting aid to Israel”, our only ally in the Middle East.
Ignore the noise (jason) my friends.
PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!!!!!! Mercy!!!!!
Finally some good news!!!!
Don’t like the fact Princess Palin is leading there which I can’t make sence of. Mike Huckabee is a much stronger Christain than her.But if Ron Paul get in HE WINS!!!!
As for Mr. Grayson, while he would be better than a Democrat, let’s just say he is too much of an establishment candidate for me.
Comment by OHIO JOE — February 23, 2010 @ 12:51 pm
This comment by Ohio Joe (earlier today, sorry — I’ve been away), it illustrates what’s wrong with the Tea Party folks. They seem to think there’s something “magical” about a candidate being anti-establishment. Let me just say that Ron Paul is anti-establishment, as was David Duke. Meanwhile, when he won the GOP nomination in 1980, Ronald Reagan was very much the “establishment” candidate. Please, folks, don’t go voting for for nutcase candidates, like Rand Paul, simply because the alternative is “establishment”. The same story is happening in Arizona and Nevada. In most cases, the Paulbots are trying to co-opt the Tea Party by pushing their choices, trying to entice the Tea Party folks to vote along with them. In the latter (Nevada), they’ll say that Sue Lowden is “establishment”, so vote against her — when the only real “sin” of Lowden is that she’s a fierce opponent of Ron Paul. She is the devil to the Paubots (and thus she’s very good!)
33. Hey Bunu, as a Paulbot maybe you can answer which of the Rand Paul positions I listed above are mainstream Republican?
BPL,
Palin is doing extremely well with the 18-29 or 18-34 in nearly all of the 2012 GOP primary polling I’ve seen. They are small samples but when you see it across the board in the state polling as well as the national polling, it’s tough to not call that a trend.
Palin’s younger supporters just don’t go to CPAC or events of that nature.
“Ignore the noise (jason) my friends.”
How many friends to you have here Bunu? Jerry “put it on the board yes..mercy”?
Actually, brings up a good question. You guys who think Rand and Ron don’t share the same ideas I pose you this question:
If Rand Paul didn’t think like Ron Paul, would Bunu support him?
#37
I was quoting McCain from the RNC convention. Remember, everyone is McCain’s friend in the crowd even if they’re booing him.
That’s how McCain campaigns.
Good to see you Tommy Boy.
44% to 4% People can tell the difference between the 2 Pauls.
the candidate, in KY, that I hear alot about was not polled in this race. Bill Johnson. I wonder if this is an anti Grayson vote and anot a pro-Rand poll?
I do note that Pappy Paul got all of 4% on the 2012 preference poll
I personally think that the poll in KY is alot closer then 20%.
I look forward a future poll that lists all the candidates
Jason
I have commented on “establishment” before. I have been active in the local GOP here in TN. 30 years ago in KY there was not much of a party establishment in KY. People like Mitch McConnell went out there and built the party in KY precinct by precinct.
after 30 years of building KY has 4/6 house seats-two senate seats-had the governorship-couple of cabinet posts-control of state senate.
Compare the voting records of KY’s senators & US representatives to any state and guess what? They are conservatives.
Yet they are the “establishment” to some folks. What exactly does “establishment mean”? When grass roots conservatives inspired by Ronald Reagan, like Mitch McConnell, took over the GOP party we became the establishment. Jim Bunning-Mitch McConnell-Rob Portman-John Kaisch and others took over the GOP and became the establishment. We are all Ronnie’e kids. We go a stray a bit but we are the establishment.
There is no big Corporate headquarters called GOP inc. where the establishment hangs out. The GOP is based in the grass roots and if you don’t believe get involved in campaigns. When the grassroots becomes dispirted like in 2006 & 2008 we lose elections.
So is this establishment?
More important who is not part of the establishment?
Before you say Teaparty I could post dozens of articles where teaparty people filling empty precinct slots in NV-AZ-CA-MA-RI-TX.
The teaparty people are finding out that the establishment-grass roots republicans look alot like them.
Tammy Duckworth, Pat Quinn’s choice to fill in the LT Gov position on the ballot has declined.
“44% to 4% People can tell the difference between the 2 Pauls.”
What is the difference Ohio Joe? I listed Rand Paul’s positions above. Which ones differ from Ron Paul?
I understand some Rand Paul supporters are not Paulbots but I fail to see where they are substantially different, and for sure the Democrats and the MSM will make the same point if Rand Paul is nominated.
41. Were you commenting on something I said? I don’t disagree with any of that.
Rdel,
Look at Greyson’s favorables. He’s at 31/20 with GOP primary voters. He’s not going anywhere even with Johnson getting hot.
Dr Jay
you have got to kidding???
Why announce you were asking her to lt Gov if she was going to decline??
That is unreal-beyond belief.
Today was also the deadline to report updated results on the Dillard-Brady primary battle. Naturally the democratic secretary of state-in charge of elections-has no updated numbers.
Tommy Boy you could be right.
Still that’s a lot undecided.
KY, in cumberland plateau area, has a pretty potent political machine. its not quite like Chicago but the organization can get votes out. Those voters in the hills and hollers don’t show up in polss-heck they don’t have phones??
Don’t count those chickens until the necks have been wrung and plucked.
BPL,
Get past your hatred of jason and admit that he’s making sense on Rand Paul, please! Don’t give any “aid and comfort” to these enemies of our cause. I know you love Sarah Palin — and I do too — but she is fallible, she is capable of making a mistake, and endorsing Rand Paul was unfortunately a major mistake.
jason has just listed Rand Paul’s positions. They are way out of the mainstream. If Rand Paul wins the GOP nomination, it will only be a matter of time before he is exposed as a weirdo truther, and then the seat will belong to a liberal Democrat!
I’ve asked Bunu many times to tell us how Rand and Ron Paul are different, and his answer is always something like, “Ron Paul’s positions are fine, so they don’t have to be different”. That’s clear enough for me.
Rdel, she was the one he wanted, which I saw floating around for a couple days on a site or two, but apparently he asked today and she declined. Here is a Tribune article.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-duckworth-lt-governor-0224-20100223,0,29815.story
Here’s what I wonder: How devastating would it be if Sarah Palin were to come out and change her endorsement? What if she were to say she’s checked into Mister Paul’s positions and finds them dangerous. I say we should all start writing Ms. Palin and suggest she do this. Wake her up to how bad the Pauls really are. I for one will do so. (I’ve already done it once.)
#50
She won’t.
36. “Palin is doing extremely well with the 18-29 or 18-34 in nearly all of the 2012 GOP primary polling I’ve seen. They are small samples but when you see it across the board in the state polling as well as the national polling, it’s tough to not call that a trend.”
Thanks, Tommy_Boy. I think what a lot of “Palin can’t win”-drones fail to see is that she is the only one of the prospective 2012 candidates that expands the electorate beyond the normal GOP reach. She is popular with youngsters, & the numbers you cited above don’t even include the 15-18 year-old first-time voter females that will run to vote for her in 2012. She is a role model to many “yutes” in the heartland. They do not even show up in polls right now.
Also, most polls show her doing better than most GOPers among Latinos, who can be drawn in by her religious & family values.
Can Mitt Romney appeal better to this huge group? I don’t think so.
I would also believe that she could bring out more seldom-or-never-vote voters, especially in the Christian community.
Throw in NRA support like nobody’s business (sorry Huckabee & Pawlenty) & appeal to union regulars, and she expands the playing field for 2012. Nobody else can do this in 2012, IMO.
36. “Palin is doing extremely well with the 18-29 or 18-34 in nearly all of the 2012 GOP primary polling I’ve seen. They are small samples but when you see it across the board in the state polling as well as the national polling, it’s tough to not call that a trend.”
Thanks, Tommy_Boy. I think what a lot of “Palin can’t win”-drones fail to see is that she is the only one of the prospective 2012 candidates that expands the electorate beyond the normal GOP reach. She is popular with youngsters, & the numbers you cited above don’t even include the 15-18 year-old first-time voter females that will run to vote for her in 2012. She is a role model to many “yutes” in the heartland. They do not even show up in polls right now.
Also, most polls show her doing better than most GOPers among Latinos, who can be drawn in by her religious & family values.
Can Mitt Romney appeal better to this huge group? I don’t think so.
I would also believe that she could bring out more seldom-or-never-vote voters, especially in the Christian community.
Throw in NRA support like nobody’s business (sorry Huckabee & Pawlenty) & appeal to union regulars, and she expands the playing field for 2012. Nobody else can do this in 2012, IMO.
Sorry for the dbl-post.
No, Tommy meant she did well among young Republicans, not young people in general. In fact, with young people(18-29), her numbers are putrid.
55. Brandon, I’d look at actual polls instead of media spin. Putrid my a$$.
48, 50. AIN, you…misguided soul! & jason the twerp:
The following have endorsed Rand Paul besides Sarah Palin: Concerned Women for America (the conservative answer to NOW, only larger in membership); Reagan PAC (headed by the adopted son of Ronald Reagan); and Steve Forbes (head of the Forbes publishing empire & 1996/2000 presidential candidate.
Sorry, but I don’t believe that the heir to the Reagan name & popular CONSERVATIVE talk show host would endorse someone not in the same ballpark ideologically as his father. Nor do I believe that Steve Forbes would risk the value of the multi-billion dollar empire which his name bears to endorse an anti-semite, racist, bigot, yada, yada, yada. Sorry, but these 3 + Sarah Palin have built up a lot more cred over the years than you Woodward & Bernstein wannabees, looking for a “gotcha” moment. They have important things to lose by making an endorsement in the race. You all DON’T. I’ll trust their political judgement over any of yours (even the respected Wes) any day of the week.
Newt Gingrich committed about 1 million dollars of RNC dollars to republicans primary in TX-14 to defeat Ron Paul.
He failed.
But it was largely due to Steve Forbes and Pat Buchanan and others who came there to campaign for him.
So Forbes has been a longtime fan of Ron Paul.
Rand Paul still has one endorsement that he is keeping secret that is “bigger than Palin.”
Could be Jane Roe…or Jim Bunning. We’ll find out though.
That was in 1996 that Gingrich spent that money there.
BPL, there is a problem with your analysis, with friends like Bunu you don’t need enemies:
“Nor do I believe that Steve Forbes would risk the value of the multi-billion dollar empire which his name bears to endorse an anti-semite, racist, bigot, yada, yada, yada.”
Bunu:
“But it was largely due to Steve Forbes and Pat Buchanan and others who came there to campaign for him.
So Forbes has been a longtime fan of Ron Paul.”
#56. Links to these polls that you speak of?
Here’s a couple:
18-29 Favorables for Sarah Palin
32/54
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_2181205.pdf
33/63
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/premium_content/national_polls/crosstabs_lou_dobbs_november_24_2009
Brandon,
Why are you directing that post at me? Where in this thread did I claim she did well with young voters overall?
60 – jason (itty bitty j): Explaining this is like talking into a dead microphone (or to a blonde). Forbes endorsed the SON in the race, not L Ron for KY Senate. How many times do I have to go over this crapola? If Rand Paul gets “exposed” with these “facts” about his record like y’all say he will, then his major endorsers are all in deep sh-t. They’d lose all the cred they’ve built up. I’m 99.9% certain that people who have gotten that fat in life will allow that to happen. care to put your money where your mouth is, or will all of you just scurry away when your predictions come out wrong?
Again, you have nothing to lose when you come up wrong. No colateral to be lost if your compass is off.
#55 I don’t see how you came to that conclusion about my claim in #36
#62. I was talking to BPL. I understood your point.
Gotcha. I misunderstood your post at #55 as well.
It would feel so soooo gooood to see Jensen get some egg with the Texas primary coming up.
Every other poll but him and Kos have Perry closing in on 50% if I’m not mistaken.
BPL,
I think jason just answered the Steve Forbes point. I don’t know much about that Reagan PAC, but I know about CWA (Concerned Women for America), as my wife and I used to donate to them. They are generally very, very good on moral issues, but they can get a little bit single-minded at times. A similar one would be Focus on the Family’s James Dobson. I used to have tons of respect for Dobson, but he sort of lost me in 2008 when he went through his juvenile tantrum over McCain’s nomination, saying that he couldn’t vote for McCain because he “wasn’t pro-life”. Of course he was making this ridiculous assertion due to McCain’s support for stem cell research. While I too disagreed with McCain on this, to call him “not pro-life” was downright silly, and I haven’t had the same respect for Dobson since. So these groups (CWA, Dobson) can get overly single-minded.
I still ask: Would you give David Duke’s son the benefit of the doubt if he were running for office? Or would you insist on knowing that Duke Jr was very, very different from his father?
Brandon,
PDF is failing me at the moment.
Can you give me the Conservative/moderate numbers between Perry/KBH/Medina
Steve Forbes has always been a loyal Ron Paul follower as far as I know.
From his wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
“1996 campaign
In 1996, Paul was re-elected to Congress after the toughest campaign race he had faced since the 1970s. Since the Republicans had taken over both houses of Congress in the 1994 election, Paul entered the race hopeful that his Constitutionalist policies of tax cuts, closing agencies, and curbing the UN would have more support.[49] The Republican National Committee focused instead on encouraging Democrats to switch parties, as Paul’s primary opponent, incumbent Greg Laughlin, had done in 1995. The party threw its full weight behind Laughlin, including support from House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Governor George W. Bush, and the National Rifle Association. Paul responded by running newspaper ads quoting Gingrich’s harsh criticisms of Laughlin’s Democratic voting record 14 months earlier.[16] Paul won the primary with support from baseball pitcher, constituent, and friend Nolan Ryan (as honorary campaign chair and ad spokesman), as well as tax activist Steve Forbes[6] and conservative commentator Pat Buchanan (both of whom had run presidential campaigns that year).”
Bunu,
I again ask you: On what issues are Ron and Rand Paul different?
I think we will see a Daggett effect with Medina on election day.
#68. Funny, I was just actually looking at that myself.
Conservatives
Perry: 45%
Hutchison: 24%
Medina: 20%
Moderates
Hutchison: 51%
Perry: 26%
Medina: 21%
“Forbes endorsed the SON in the race, not L Ron for KY Senate.”
Are you really that dumb or just playing the role?
Bunu just said Forbes is a long time supporter of RON PAUL..read his post 69 if you have the stomach.
72. I guess its fortunate there are more conservatives than moderates in Texas.
61. Brandon – That Ras poll was taken back in Nov, before Palin’s book tour was in full force. It means nothing for today’s argument.
Check the crosstabs for the PPP poll – the 18-29 group is ridiculously favorable toward Obama, matching the numbers he had @ election day. I don’t believe for one second that Obama’s #s have stayed the same for that group, while at the same time falling to the floor with voters 40-55 & over 55 since. Sorry, it doesn’t pass the smell test. I saw this poll when it came out & knew it was a bad sample of young voters.
Okay, but you said to look at the polls that show she is doing well among young voters. So, I respectfully ask again, where are those polls? I’m not doubting, just curious. All of the one’s I have found, show the opposite(many polls don’t show the breakdown by age either).
Make that “falling to the floor with voters 30-45 & 46-65.” The Over-65 voter sample looks fishy too, especially with HC as a major issue.
Sorry, but I’m calling BS on the whole poll.
76 – Fair enough, Brandon. I never saved the polls (or the links) to back up my claim. I didn’t think I would need them. I just remember seeing them post-book tour. Problem is, sub-samples can vary wildly from one polling outfit to the other. They use too small a sample, which has a high MOE. But thanks for keeping me honest.
Bailout and Medina are fading as is Crist in Florida based on my sources.
Does anyone still want to appt. Crist as the candidate and fear Mad Meeks?
I have no problem with Rand.
Supposedly Campaign for Liberty an YAL have been campaigning the hardest in central Kentucky:
54% Rand
17% Grayson
29% Undecided
Hurricane Rand!
Trey getting served up.
Can someone please pay me to lurk tonight? Just a few bucks will be fine. Usually the conversation is quite tittilating, but tonight I’m bored. I’ll even lurk for half price.
You know the really sad part about lurking is, we lurkers never get a chance to meet bc, by our true nature, we just lurk. Sinatra did a number a few years back,”Lurkers in the night – exchanging glances …” See that just doesn’t work. Oh well, I just can’t do it,,,where’s that Snake Pliskin dude anyway,,,or that Sir Alberto McDougalito…are you nerds out there lurking??
arr crappycare bites snake!
Here is one for the “no kidding, eh!” category:
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=521658
“The ‘Stimulus’ Actually Raised Unemployment
By ALAN REYNOLDS
Posted 02/19/2010 05:58 PM ET
President Obama seized on the one-year anniversary of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) as an opportunity to take credit for the belated and tenuous economic recovery.
But the economy always recovered from recessions, long before anyone imagined that government borrowing could “create jobs.” And we didn’t used to have to wait nearly two years for signs of recovery, as we did this time”
You think that maybe taking 1 trillion dollars out of the private economy (ie the people who would have invested it in productive economic activity ie stuff or service real people want and/or need)and wasting it on useless govt jobs and stuff nobody but politicans want?
Uh, heck ya lol
As some kiddies in ObamaSkol wouldd say “MM MM MM”
MMMM MMMM MMMM:
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/02/23/europe-either-bismarck-or-the-euro-but-not-both/
“But the situation is immensely worse because European states also have huge, and largely hidden, unfunded liabilities arising from their pension and health systems. According to a 2009 study by my colleague Jagadeesh Gokhale, the true debt of the 25 European countries is, on average, 434% of GDP. And the treaties that underpin European integration do not say a word about such debt.
Greece’s true debt is 875% of GDP and its current problems are just the first act of the coming fiscal bankruptcy of Europe. In my 2004 essay “Will the Pension Time Bomb Sink the Euro?”, I concluded that Europe would end up facing a critical crossroads: either leave the Euro or abandon the Bismarckian welfare state paradigm. As it turns out, the DNA of the pay-as-you-go system allows for political manipulation and the consequent inflation of pension and health “rights.” This, exacerbated by falling fertility rates and increasing life expectancy, will lead to increasing fiscal deficits, unpayable debt, state insolvency, defaults, covert age wars, and the failure of the Eurozone project.
The welfare state has really become an arbitrary “entitlement state,” where everyone uses the state to rob someone else, and politicians from the right and the left play the transfer game to win elections. This crisis may serve to reveal the true nature and enormous flaws of the welfare state. Sooner or later, Europe will have to dismantle it and move toward a paradigm of personal responsability — that is, a system of personal accounts for pensions, health and unemployment benefits.”
I’m still waiting for someone to tell me why Sarah Palin, Steve Forbes, Michael Reagan, and Concerned Women for America, all mainstream conservatives with much to lose, would all put their necks on the line to support an extremist with such easiliy exposable record/views. Yet not one national Republican or key conservative has stepped up to endorse his opponent Trey Grayson in order to save the party from impending doom. Any theories why that may be? Hmmm. Interesting. Could it be they know what they’re talking about & some of you fools do not? Your guilt by association using weak links is not good enough.
I hate Hippies – they support CrappyCare. And they push the regressive idea of Centralized control by a political elite:
http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/2010/02/24/a_thought_on_federalism.thtml
“I had an insight into federalism. I was considering the fact that communes always seem to appeal most to those who would be petty tyrants, that the “group family” model, by removing all loyalties and obligations to anyone other than the group — meaning the leader — tends to favor a charismatic dictator. It is most obvious in the various schemes for collective child rearing such as the Hitler Youth, the Piccoli Fascisti and various communist collective child rearing schemes, but there was the same motive present in even the “hippie” communes of the sixties, no matter how egalitarian the would be tyrants claimed to be.
What I realized from this was that we have a similar phenomenon going on in our nation, but on a national level. No, not the attacks on the family, nor the attempts to have schools and state organs act in loco parentis, though those are frightening trends. What troubles me is the tendency to move all loyalties from local and state governments to the federal government. By effectively stripping the smaller regional governments of any authority, the federal government is, in essence, eliminating all possible loyalties to any other group, making itself the sole object of allegiance.”
Crist’s only legitimate argument against Rubio was the Earmarks. Unfortunately for him, since he agreed to a debate with Rubio, Marco is likely to take him apart verbally and expose him for the failure he is. That will finish him politically in all likelihood.
BPL,
If nutjob Jr. wins the primary watch what happens in the general. It will be a circus. The guy is a truther. The issue is NOT complicated and there are not truths on both sides of the story.
The Paul’s are not conservatives. They are a extreme offshoot of Goldwater libertarianism. That is not a shot at Goldwater who I admire. As for Sarah’s support, I guess her staff hasn’t heard the word google yet. There was no bigger supporter of Palin on this site than me, with the exception of TB, but I can’t support anyone who throws in with these people.
Say what you want about me. I am very comfortable with my conservative views and understand what the movement is all about. The Paul’s? They aint it.
Having said all this, now that HHR has temporarily been hijacked and converted to a Ronulan site. A short recess may be in order. I definitely have nothing more to say on this.
Asa Hutchinson has endorsed one of the many candidates for AR-3 (which was his seat prior to Boozman).
http://www.thecitywire.com/?q=node/8414
Well said MD. You hit the nail on the head. Ron Paul and Nutjob Jr. are not Republicans, not conservatives, and have no allegiance to the Republican party, and their positions could not be farther from mainstream Republicans. BPL thinks Sarah Palin’s lukewarm endorsement legitimizes Rand Paul, I think it was just a mistake. Paulbots never liked Sarah Palin, Bunu was on her case for weeks for her support of Israel, and then suddenly she endorses Rand Paul and he “conveniently” loves her. It proves the point Paulbots just use the R for convenience.
In any event, you are right, this is not a Ronulan site and your recess idea is a good one. Let BPL shill for Rand Paul and Bunu and Jerry pretend they fit here and let’s hope KY Republicans realize Nutjob Jr does not represent their interests.
Those radio guys from Louisville that told me that Paul was ahead were apparently not kidding….
It appears that KY senate race is going to be a repeat of the last govenor’s race.
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