Republicans Move Into Lead In CA

Some good news out of California where the latest poll from Survey USA shows Republicans now leading the top two statewide races

Meg Whitman (R) 46%
Jerry Brown (D) 395

Carly Fiorina (R) 47%
Barbara Boxer (D-inc) 45%

This poll was done July 8-11 among 614 likely voters. The poll also shows Californians support legalizing marijuana by a double-digit margin (50%-40%).

Posted by Dave at 6:16 pm
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146 Responses to “Republicans Move Into Lead In CA”

  1. rdelbov says:

    Roll on CA gals–go GOP

  2. Sharon says:

    I said it the other day and I’m saying it again today; the Obama’s are taking the race situation in this country back to the 1950’s and 60’s. I don’t believe they will be happy until we have riots, race not verdict, in the streets with cops spraying the protesters with water again. They work together to keep tensions high and I believe will do all they can to help promote the downfall of all those citizens that are any race other than black.

  3. rdelbov says:

    No party ID they do ideology

    In 2008 the ID was 25LIB–44Moderate–30 conservative–

    This poll was 30CON–44Moderate-19Lib plus 7% who are not sure. So we see a liberal dropoff and a bit of a conservative surge—sounds right for CA 2010

  4. Diogenes says:

    I think Boxer is more vulnerable than Feingold. Feingold’s record is mixed and his constituent services aren’t half as bad as Boxer.

    That and Wisconsin isn’t quite the train-wreck California is by far.

  5. GF says:

    Holy CRAP!

    I can’t speak…I know it’s only a polll, but damn, this makes me happy.

    Be back in a while after I catch up on the day’s threads.

  6. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    the numbers for both Fio and Whitty with minorities and the LA area are just hard to believe- they are incredible and leave me feeling hopeful for November…

  7. Phil says:

    Toomey in Pa raised three million last quarter.

    That aint bad.

  8. rdelbov says:

    That’s huge for Toomey

  9. bunu says:

    Fox legal analyst: Bush should have been indicted

    Fox News’ senior judicial analyst made some surprising remarks Saturday that may go against the grain at his conservative network.
    In a interview with Ralph Nader on C-SPAN’s Book TV to promote his book Lies the Government Told You, Judge Andrew Napolitano said that President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney should have been indicted for “torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrant.”
    The judge believes that it is a fallacy to say that the US treats suspects as innocent until proven guilty. “The government acts as if a defendant is guilty merely on the basis of an accusation,” said Napolitano.

  10. Annie says:

    I pray the numbers stay up for the GOP gals in California through election day!! The “debates” to come should only serve to point out what nitwits they’re running against. I’ve been a CA voter for 35 years now – lived through the Gov. Moonbeam years. I do not want to go back to those doldrums! Also, Boxer has never had a real challenger – one with money, talent, brains, and a desire to win (all at the same time). The worst the ads say about Whitman and Fiorina right now is that they are spending a lot of their own money to “buy” the governorship. I say, “Ha! Let candidates spend their money [for once] and leave mine alone!”

  11. marc says:

    What about Nevada?? Why hasn’t anyone but Rassmuseen polled Nevada since the primary??

  12. Howard Dean says:

    I was against Prop 187 and the AZ law.

    Q: Who said that, Brown or Whitman?

    More to come!

  13. Tommy_Boy says:


    PPP(D) is probably polling it this week.

  14. Tommy_Boy says:

    SurveyUSA poll

    Bachmann 48
    Clark 39%

  15. marc says:

    Ugh god..So we can expect bad numbers then

  16. theoneandonlyfinn says:


    *If you are Jerry Brown, you LOVE the angry conservatives who wont vote for Whitman.
    If you have to LIVE IN THIS F****** state, you pray they have the sense to vote for Meg over that.

  17. Waingro says:

    Fantastic news from Survey USA. Go Carly Go!

  18. Howard Dean says:

    Speaking to reporters after an appearance before supporters at a Redwood City cement plant, Whitman distanced herself from former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s “drill, baby, drill” position.

    Whitman said she “would actually be on a different side of that issue” from Palin.

    Whitman said she has “historically been against oil drilling,” ……..

    Supported drilling

    Two years ago, as an adviser to GOP presidential candidate John McCain, Whitman delivered a rousing speech from the floor of the Republican National Convention in Minnesota lauding the Arizona senator for supporting “the right energy policies … (including) lifting the ban on offshore oil drilling.”


  19. marc says:

    I’m interesting in polling Nevada because if Angle is still ahead now well after a month of blistering attacks and her own general craziness then she is gonna win in November regardless of anything Dirty Harry does.

  20. Howard Dean says:

    you pray they have the sense to vote for Meg over that.

    Comment by theoneandonlyfinn — July 12, 2010 @ 6:53

    How will she be better than Arnold?

    He was a disaster, right there with Grayout Davis.

  21. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    shes not CONSERVATIVE enough though!!
    nevermind the primary is OVER.
    nevermind the ONLY OTHER CHOICE in this zero-sum election is Barbara Boxer (much like the gov race where it is Jerry Brown).
    Im sick of people who don’t LIVE here bitching about our candidates and try to discourage us.
    I KNOW Whitman is a liberal Republican.
    I KNOW she will do things that piss me off.
    But after watching Republicans HELP Obama crash this country by NOT voting because they were mad at their candidates, I don’t want a repeat of that when things are so critical. I like you HD. I find your posts hysterical and you do stick it to the Repubs who stray..
    but please wait until after they win or before the primary vote has been decided.

    I don’t sleep fearing what Gov Brown will do. My job is hanging by a thread thanks to that asshat’s CARB and its leader, Mary Nichols, as it is…
    (but hey go after Norton all you want 😉 )

  22. Tommy_Boy says:

    Anyone who doesn’t support safe offshore and onshore drilling is just a complete waste of space, especially in a state that has a huge deficit.

  23. Tommy_Boy says:

    Boxer is such a disaster. It’s almost as if she’s trying to make herself seem as elitist as possible.

  24. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    #20 the option is Whitman or Brown.
    YOU DONT LIVE HERE, so you dont have to care what the effect is.
    Even if Whitman is just MARGINALLY better, thats better. We do not have a choice.
    You do NO ONE favors by spewing this out AFTER the primary, so why?
    We get it, you hate her guts, but with the California races you have turned into Chekote lol…

  25. Howard Dean says:

    Comment by theoneandonlyfinn — July 12, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

    I left in 03.

    Get out while you can.

    You’re fooling yourself if you think Whitman or anyone else will turn CA around.

  26. Howard Dean says:

    #20 the option is Whitman or Brown.

    I know.

    And before that it was Arnold or…

    Did it matter?

  27. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    HD btw-
    I fear Whitman’s appeasements on immigration.
    I don’t like her position on offshore drilling.
    But she wants AB32 suspended for a full year, shes called for an independent investigation of Mary Nichols and CARB over the Hein Train scandal…

    and if that turns out to be a lie, fine.

    My alternative though will finish decimating my industry, so I take this election personally. Sorry for typing in caps and getting hyped up…just so you know.

    changing subjects- where is the new PA senate poll I’ve heard about showing Toomey up 2?

  28. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    “get out while you can”

    I am stuck here with awful credit, but we are looking fondly at Arizona.
    Where are you now?

  29. SoThisIsHopeAndChange says:

    Dem congressmen gone wild

    Contribute to his republican opponent

  30. Howard Dean says:

    Comment by theoneandonlyfinn — July 12, 2010 @ 7:05 pm

    I’m in WA.

    I truly hope you can find your way to AZ soon.

    There are a LOT of good people stuck in CA.

    It is a shame that state has been destroyed.

    It’s no fault of yours.

  31. Phil says:

    California is a fiscal disaster and the fruits in their legislature will keep it that way. Whitman won’t be any better than Arnold. She’s powerless.

    California hit the tipping point in the 90s. The coalition of Marxists, limo liberals, public unions, low income Hispanics now constitutes a majority of the electorate. They are determined to push that once great state even beyond the disaster it has become. Tax and spend is their policy and that coalition will make sure it remains in place.

    California, I’m sorry to say, is finished. It’s only use now is to serve as an example to other states on how not to run their state.

  32. small E says:

    Want to bet that gov. moombean wins the election? If he does watch the huge dust cloud from millions heading east!!! I’ll be the one in front…

  33. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    #32 and THEN the Big One hits…

    HD what do you think Rossi’s chances are this year?

  34. jason says:

    “California is a fiscal disaster and the fruits in their legislature will keep it that way. Whitman won’t be any better than Arnold. She’s powerless.”

    Look at Christie. NJ is a basket case but he is giving it a shot. I want Whitman to have a shot too.

  35. Diogenes says:

    Whitman will have no power. Anything she passes the dem interest groups will try to propostion against. Cut spending? No way, the 1/4th of the budget nominally controlled by the legislature will shrink ever more with a web of propositions.

  36. GF says:

    Digging through the poll’s cross tabs, I have a few quibbles, mostly with the black numbers and them being part of such a small sub-sample. Six percent is not too far off (if it is at all), and Meg has done well with Hispanics recently (Field also showed this gap narrowing from a larger Brown lead in the Spring), so this is totally plausible. Amomgts Asians, the GOP is weaker up north with Chinese and Korean ethnics, but runs overwhlemingly strong in the Vietnamese in Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego counties. A split in the Asian vote is very realistic.

    If you get technical, out of this survey, Meg gets 2% from her blakc support and Brown would take 4% assuming a 2-1 split (he’s netting 3% of the overall in this sample). So, worst case scenario is that the black category is flawed, and Jerry nets 5% (2% more to his total) and Meg only 1% (subtract 1%), for a new overall split of…

    Meg: 45%
    Jerry: 41%

    That puts us right on the margin of error (+/- 4%). Personally, I think Meg has an ever so slight lead, but this otherwise fits in witht he mem that field put out last week. In other words, good news for the GOP.

    Something to note: In the Recall of 2003, Arnold took 27% of the black vote accoridng to the exits, and McClintock took 14%. Thus, the combined GOP black vote share was about 40%. When times are bad and people are suffering, it is not out of the realm of possibility that a decent portion of a loyal Dem voting block might break off. I doubt it will exceed 30% in CA this year (if even that high), but if Meg can hit 20%, she’s already hit Brown where it hurts.

  37. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    30% is likely with the terrible economy and depending on WHO shows up.
    who is to say the most enthused blacks are the more moderate ones who probably voted for Obama in 2008 but are not happy about Boxer’s condescending tones? Not happy about their job position?
    If Republicans capture a combined 40% of the black vote during the lower-turnout recall election, then 30% in a midterm in the DEMpression isn’t unlikely..

  38. Phil says:

    Plus Michelle Bachmann is rolling in campaign cash.

    This one’s over folks.

  39. Frank says:


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  40. pitchaboy says:

    At a time when the country has tuned out Obama and the dems, Scott Brown and Maine girl are supporting the financial reform bill. These two clowns may as well be dems and they could be defeated by some conservative in this climate. At this rate, Brown will go down in 2012 by depressing republican turnout.

  41. Tim says:

    BP doesn’t seem to support that, do they?

  42. Wes says:

    Good poll. Let’s hope more pop up to corroborate it.

  43. AuH2ORepublican says:

    #37, GF, there is no way that Tom McClintock (whom I supported in the 2003 recall election) got 14% of the black vote, since he got 13.5% of the overall vote. Perhaps Arnold got 27% of the black vote (I don’t know), but I think that something got lost in translation at some point and McClintock’s overall total was confused with his percentage of the black vote.

    I would be shocked if Whitman got 20% of the black vote. But getting 10%-15% of a very low black turnout could give Whitman the victory.

  44. AuH2ORepublican says:

    #183 and #198 from the prior thread, Sean, you mixed up your terms. The GOP would vote FOR cloture of a bill repealing Obamacare. Cloture ends debate and allows a final vote to proceed.

  45. sam says:

    As I said a few months ago, Feingold, Murray and Boxer are all going to lose.

    (Note that I didn’t say Rossi, Johnson, and Fiorina are going to win.)

    This is an anti-Dem election, does not matter who runs against Dems. No party survives 20-point turnaround and 2-to-1 Indies against.

  46. Kristen says:

    Hey Finn,

    If you seriously want to come to AZ, let me know. I’ll gladly give your family an overview and tour.


  47. Howard Dean says:

    Jobs killer:

    Days before a Chamber of Commerce economic summit, President Obama’s aides shrugged off warnings that proposed new financial regulations would be a jobs-killer, as Democrats appeared to have lined up enough GOP support to pass the measures in the Senate.

    Republican Sens. Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Olympia Snowe of Maine signaled Monday they would back the Senate financial overhaul bill, boosting its chances of passing this week. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, also has said she will vote for the legislation.

  48. Tony says:

    If SUSA shows Boxer behind by 2 she’s prob down by 5-7.

  49. Tony says:

    No big deal if brown votes for the legislation. I mean he’s probably gonna vote with the GOP on other stuff, right?

  50. Howard Dean says:

    The 3 RINOS own the 2,000 page disaster.

    It’s their bill.

    Brown will screw the country to get re-elected.

    %$#^ him and the Maine bitches.

  51. Brandon says:

    #51. Why? SUSA is a good pollster(probably the best actually, IMO).

  52. MD says:

    HD – we gotta go for the best we can in CA although I agree that any right thinking person should move.

    It would not surprise me if a poll comes out showing Toomey only up by 2. Paladin/CFP had it at 4 last week. This is a 3 to 5 point race.

  53. MD says:

    I don’t believe the Cao poll. If he wins big, then we are looking at 1894 redux.

  54. MD says:

    Gang, I had a long travel day (in Vancouver) so if my posts come across disjointed, I apologize in advance.

  55. Gary Maxwell says:


    getting harder and harder to keep the Indians on the reservation.

    The Democrats have created progressive plantations in big cities. Most of these places are damn near unlivable. Perhaps blacks are waking up to these facts and connecting the dots…

  56. AuH2ORepublican says:

    #56, HD, I agree, I’m calling shenanigans on that Cao poll. Cao leading a black Democrat legislator 39%-36% *among black voters*? MD is right, it would be 1894 redux, and not just because the GOP would pick up over 100 seats: blacks would be going back to their pre-New Deal voting patters.

  57. Phil says:

    I’m not buying the Cao poll either. He may win, but as much as I’d love for that poll to be true…

    He needs the Democrats to split the black vote to win IMO.

  58. marc says:

    60. That is a very offensive statement.

  59. Phil says:

    Right now I think Republicans lose two seats they are presently holding – Delaware and one of either Cao’s seat or Ill-10.

    I could live with that.

  60. Howard Dean says:

    That is a very offensive statement.

    Comment by marc — July 12, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

    Do you understand his point?

  61. MD says:

    I get it HD. They are on the plantation without even realizing. The masters are the Dem party and charlatans like Jackson and Sharpton.

  62. MD says:

    5 years ago, I had a debate with a black colleague of mine at work who was a big supporter of Jacksons. I asked him to name something positive that he did for the black community.

    His response was to tell me that he would have to do some research. I am NOT making that up. BTW – he never got back to me.

  63. Chekote says:

    I have purposefully stayed away from this blog and my name still comes up.

  64. Bunu says:

    Why did you leave?

  65. MD says:

    I did not bring your name up once. Feel free to stay departed. Oh, it is JULY if my calendar is right. Hmmmm…..

  66. Chekote says:

    I believe someone just violated an agreement to ignore my comments.

  67. Chekote says:


    Busy with my work and politics.

  68. MD says:

    No, you did that already. You couldn’t even last 1 thread,

    You truly are a bitch.

    2.111 – have fun saying what you will.

  69. MD says:


    Remember, it is July and all the polls are going to turn against AZ.

  70. Chekote says:

    The petulant child keeps on going….. Must be tough being old and still having the mind of a 5 year old. I forgive you.

  71. Tony says:

    Susa usually gets it close—2 days from the election, Brandon. This is a throw away poll that nobody will remember in a month.

  72. MD says:

    Guys help me. Is it July? Why have the polls not turned against AZ? Even PA is 2 to 1 in favor. Weren’t we told that would change?

  73. MD says:


    I agree with Brandon. I respect SUSA and have never known them to have a partisan bias in any way whatsoever.

    I actually think they have Cali spot on but I DON’T live in the state.

  74. Chekote says:


    Did you watch the World Cup final? What a lousy game! I really enjoyed the German vs. Uruguay. Forlan is a great player to watch.

  75. Chekote says:


    Not unusual for coalitions to fall apart in parliametary system. Don’t jump too much for joy!

  76. MD says:

    The Kos Kids are losing their minds over the IN poll.

  77. bunu says:

    I watched the last 1/3 of it.

  78. MFG says:

    That Cao poll is bullshit, he’ll never win the black vote, not possible

    He’s liked in the district though, and the poll does make me think he might be able to win

    Very interesting…

  79. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    They will be fully insane by the last week of October. In fact All Saints Day we might witness a Jonestown with polling like THIS…

  80. Tony says:

    OK MD. Perhaps you and Brandon are right about susa. Their own
    analysis shows themselves to be spot on a day or two out. Of course its hard to tell months if these polls are correct.

  81. MD says:

    Things can change Tony. I only think it is fair to call out firms who are obviously trying to create a trend in leiu of reporting on one. Think PPP D.

  82. MD says:

    If Cao is up that big the last week of Nov, then I am going to be frunk for an entire week.

    My wife and daughters will just have to understand!!!!

  83. MD says:

    OK Frunk should be drunk.

    Say what you will.

  84. MFG says:

    I thought it was a new term like purple drank

  85. MD says:


    Vancouver is Asian woman Heaven. Heaven.

  86. Tony says:

    MD that’s the problem. Things change but they usually change positively for Republicans the closer we get to elections. I don’t think its voters changing their minds so much as pollsters changing their numbers to reflect reality.

  87. MD says:

    No MFG – I am altitude impaired this evening.

  88. MFG says:

    Cao winning would be the ultimate whizz in the face of the Communists don’t you think?

    Not being able to win in a district with a 50% registration advantage

  89. MFG says:


  90. MFG says:

    Election night should be hilarious

  91. Tony says:

    The number of times we will be called racists on election night will be remarkable. Not to mention that we’re having tantrums like children because we don’t know what’s best for us. Gonna be a fun night

  92. jason says:

    80. I thought there was plenty of action, but the Germany – Uruguay game was better, you are right.

    Did you see Forlan was chosen best player of the Cup?

  93. rdelbov says:

    We need another Cao poll to confirm those numbers.

    Polls have been good the last week or so. Senate fundraising reports have been great for the GOP

  94. Dylan says:

    It’s hard for me to, notwithstanding this excellent polling news and general trends for the GOP taking over the House and possibly the Senate, it is very hard for me to visualize a scenario where the country manages to survive this President.

    Assuming the GOP takes over the House/Senate,

    1. the lame duck congress can pass whatever the hell they want. THEY.WILL.DO.IT

    2. the new congress won’t be able to repeal squat because the GOP will not be able to override Obama’s veto.

    3. even when and IF the GOP contols the legislature + the executive branch, are they really going to have the balls to repeal all of the schmeggegy bills that are being enacted now. I say no. they won’t, And thus socialism is irreversible.

    4. even when Bush had the congress, the best he could do is come up with self-expiring tax cuts???? WTF????

    See, the country is doomed. eventually there was going to be a far left president and congress. that’s just the way things work. And these laws they are passing are essentially irrevocable.

    I’m not canceling my prozac prescription.

  95. Chekote says:

    Did you see Forlan was chosen best player of the Cup?

    Yes. He deserve it. I really enjoyed the Uruguayan style of play.

  96. addisonst says:

    Chek, I confess to mentioning you but then, I try to engage you. And it was in the context of lisa acting the fool as you do. Carry on.

  97. rdelbov says:


    the times they are a changing. You don’t have to enough votes to over ride a veto to accomplish great things.

    You can defund HC. If Obama will not go along with congress you just pass a budget and let him veto it and shut the government down.

    You stop spending money.

    You stop confirming Obama’s nominees

    You start rolling back unpopular spending.

    The senate passed HC by using reconcilation where you only needed 50 votes–by golly you start rolling back Obamacare-stimulus III–trillion dollar deficits using the same tools.

    What exactly has passed in the 4 months since HC passed—crickets do you hear crickets and that’s with 41 senate votes.

    What will pass with 49 senate votes or 50 or 51.

    We had a long discussion about Scott Brown on the other thread as people wailed on him about his financial reform vote.

    Scott Brown and the republicans have stopped over a trillion in projected spending plus stopped Cap & Trade & Immigration reform.

    Have people been watching what goes on in DC?

  98. addisonst says:

    Bush tax cuts are expiring bc the dems had control. Btw, the dems are going to allow the low income tax cuts to expire too even though the bush tax cuts were for the rich.

  99. theoneandonlyfinn says:

    so off topic…

    going to do some things in cali before im forced out.
    1) investigate the local legends here (Gravity Hill, Mission Inn Haunting, the Queen Mary)
    2) Look for bigfoot in Northern California.

    Both I assume have more truth to them than Barack Obama…

  100. addisonst says:

    There is a concern voiced here that obama will run against gop majorities. Bring it. Tax cuts, spending cuts, better nominees for the courts. If the gops don’t live up to that, they shouldn’t govern

  101. Karl R Rove says:

    Sweet sweet nektar if GOP wins both CA SEN and CA GOV.

  102. addisonst says:

    I am sooooo close to predicting the sen. Not quite there yet but help is on the way!!

  103. Dylan says:

    I actually think Newt Gingrich would make a decent president. I realize many people think he is damaged good and unelectable and his ship has sailed and all that, but he woudl shred Obama in a debate. his policy positions are just what the country needs.

    As for defunding HC, i’m not sure how that would work. Isn’t the current law set up such that tax collection begins immediately–and thus how would “defunding” address that issue, rdelbov?

  104. Tommy_Boy says:

    I actually think gingrich is a solid bet to run…

  105. Chekote says:

    Gingrich is too unstable and too much baggage.

  106. addisonst says:

    Gingrich has baggage. If he runs against this economy in 12 he wins 40 states

  107. BayernFan says:

    Sundays WC Final game between Spain and Netherlands was the most watched soccer game in US history…. 24 million viewers on a Sunday afternoon. By contrast, Game 7 of the NBA Finals, in primetime, drew 28 million viewers. The last game of the Stanley Cup finals in primetime had 8 million, and Game 6 of the World Series had 22 million in primetime.

    Almost a billion people worldwide watched that WC final on Sunday. It is good to see the US audience finally starting to join the party. Although the final was kind of a dud of a game…. the WC itself was lots of fun. A monthlong party, and South Africa did a real good job of hosting it.

    Now it is on to Brasil!! Qualifying for the 2014 in that country starts in June 2012!!!

    Sarah should have the GOP nomination iced by then. vbg

  108. Sean says:

    AuH20, I got the cloture term mixed up… Meant Brown would vote for cloture on Obamacare repeal… He would also vote to confirm conservative justices…

  109. Wes says:

    It’s official. As of 11:41 p.m. on July 12, 2010, we know Gingrich won’t run for President. All of the gamblers among us need to place their bets now. Free money.

  110. Wes says:

    Gingrich proved once he couldn’t handle the reins of power. He needs to stick to activism and making movies. He’s much more competent at that than at setting the political agenda for the country.

  111. dylan says:

    Wes–newt was played by clinton in the 90’s. He won’t make that same mistake if he runs. I’m not saying he’s the best candidate, but he’s better than most of the retreads and can debate like a animal

  112. Wes says:

    Newt is a retread, Dylan. Clinton didn’t make Newt become a lightning rod. He didn’t make Newt overspend in 1997 and 1998 and get bogged down in Clinton’s sex scandals rather than pointing out Clinton’s policy mistakes. Gingrich did that himself. His ego got in the way. He’s out of public life and needs to stay that way.

  113. dylan says:

    Wes—the gop needs someone who can devastate obama in the debates. Gingrich can, despite his past foibles. But if not hin, who?

  114. MD says:

    Obama conceded the house with his AZ lawsuit.

  115. MD says:

    Wrong Wes. The spending problems came after Newt.

    I agree that he is not POTUS material but to label him a big spender is false.

  116. Diogenes says:

    In Obama’s mind, he didn’t concede the house, he permanently swayed hispanics to the side of the democrats by supporting open borders.

  117. addisonst says:

    Focus on mitt, palin or newt all you want. Nobody we nominate loses to this clown if the economy looks like this in 2 years. And chek its going to be worse

  118. Diogenes says:

    It’s true, newt wasn’t a big spender at all but the Republican coalition was held together by Pork (just like most coalitions are). The pork greasing the wheels just became absolutely ridiculous under Hastert. It paved the way for obama’s even more ridiculous spending.

  119. Diogenes says:

    Anyways, the financial bill was always going to get passed. The problem is simply too big and the GOP can’t delay for a long time when the democrats are giving in to a lot of the RINO demands.

    It is a weak sauce bill that doesn’t cost too much. It can easily be amended by a republican congress in the future.

    The real poison pill in our economy is obamacare. It needs to die and we need the seats of RINO’s to do it.

  120. jason says:

    “The real poison pill in our economy is obamacare. It needs to die and we need the seats of RINO’s to do it.”

    Uhh, what RINO voted for it?

  121. Diogenes says:

    To repeal the monstrosity my friend to repeal it.

    It’s 60 senators (hopefully more to make up for the maine sisters) in 2012 and the WH or bust to repeal this monstrosity.

  122. lisab says:

    Tea Party members have used “racial epithets,” have verbally abused black members of Congress and threatened them, and protestors have engaged in “explicitly racist behavior” and “displayed signs and posters intended to degrade people of color generally and President Barack Obama specifically,” according to the proposed resolution.

  123. lisab says:

    The six-month election recount that turned former “Saturday Night Live” comedian Al Franken into a U.S. senator may have been decided by convicted felons who voted illegally in Minnesota’s Twin Cities.

  124. Tommy_Boy says:

    Wash Po:


    D/R/ 33/26 (49/42 D, lean D/R, lean R).

  125. lisab says:

    The commission leaders said that, at present, federal revenue is fully consumed by three programs: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. “The rest of the federal government, including fighting two wars, homeland security, education, art, culture, you name it, veterans — the whole rest of the discretionary budget is being financed by China and other countries,” Simpson said.

    “We can’t grow our way out of this,” Bowles said. “We could have decades of double-digit growth and not grow our way out of this enormous debt problem. We can’t tax our way out. . . . The reality is we’ve got to do exactly what you all do every day as governors. We’ve got to cut spending or increase revenues or do some combination of that.”

  126. lisab says:

    James Mattis, the man who has been appointed by Obama to head Central Command, told a crowd in San Diego that it was “fun to shoot some people” and said Afghans deserve to die. Heckuva job there Hopey!

  127. lisab says:

    President Obama leaves this week for his third vacation since declaring he would not rest till the oil leak is stopped, the clean up is complete and the Gulf Coast back to normal

  128. lisab says:

    WASHINGTON — Diamond Offshore announced Friday that its Ocean Endeavor drilling rig will leave the Gulf of Mexico and move to Egyptian waters immediately — making it the first to abandon the United States in the wake of the BP oil spill and a ban on deep-water drilling.

    And the Ocean Endeavor’s exodus probably won’t be the last, according to oil industry officials and Gulf Coast leaders who warn that other companies eager to find work for the now-idled rigs are considering moving them outside the U.S.

    Devon Energy Corp. had been leasing the Endeavor to drill in the same region of the Gulf as BP’s leaking Macondo well, which has been gushing crude since a lethal blowout April 20.

    But Diamond announced Friday it will lease the rig through June 30, 2011, to Cairo-based Burullus Gas Co., which plans to send the Endeavor to Egyptian waters immediately.

  129. Annie says:

    First, let me state that I am a conservative. Very conservative. Second, as a person who has lived in California for 40 years – and all of my adult life – I ask my fellow conservatives to please, please knock off the stone throwing at the two GOP women vying for the senate and governorship. The biggest mistake Californian Republicans continually make every election in this now blue state (once was Reagan country – those were the days) is to run candidates who are so very philosophically conservative – on principle – but have not a bit of a chance to actually get elected in this nutty, bankrupt state. Please lay off with the attacks on Whitman and Fiorina for not being “conservative” enough in all desired areas. They know how to create JOBS and not spend MY money – though this state needs to boot out 3/4 of the state legislature (tax and spend socialists) and lower the power of the multitude of unions to get any real meaningful changes in our dire financial situation. No matter how bad any “conservatives” in parts unknown across America might think Whitman or Fiorina might be – I promise you, they are 100% better than the alternatives of dopey Boxer and old man Moonbeam.

  130. Tim says:

    He won. He’s in the Senate.

  131. Tim says:

    Re: #130

  132. Jason T says:

    Speaking of lame duck session paranoia, ain’t gonna happen.

    Castle and the WVA special winner will be seated right away after the NOV election.

    Castle makes it 42 GOP seats in a lame duck folks.

  133. Jason T says:

    Franken is irrelevant, he has done nothing in the Senate as he is not respected by either party. A one term accident who got in due to Soros

  134. Jason T says:

    Gingrich may have baggage, as Tim would know being from GA. But so does Obama.

    Gingrich would hold his own with Obama in the debates, and has credibility with economic and foreign issues being a former Speaker

  135. Jason T says:

    137. Lisa, Cane and Abel?

  136. Brandon says:

    Pennsylvania Governor(Quinnipiac)

    Corbett(R): 44%
    Onorato(D): 37%

  137. bio mom says:

    Good old Washington Post/ABCpoll up. 50% for Obama.

  138. KnightHawk says:

    CA poll, encouraging tends to confirm field that showed tightening, hopefully it continues in the current direction.