Zogby Says Bachmann Leads GOP Nationally

Democrat John Zogby continues to go against the grain with his Interactive polls and shows Michele Bachmann dominating the Republican field nationally.

Michele Bachmann 28%
Herman Cain 16%
Mitt Romney 15%
Ron Paul 13%
Tim Pawlenty 4%
Jon Huntsman 4%
Newt Gingrich 4%
Rick Santorum 3%
Gary Johnson 1%
Fred Karger <1%

If Rick Perry’s name is thrown in along with Sarah Palin and Chris Christie, Perry would lead the field at 21%. In General Election match ups, some of the Republicans now lead Obama nationally.

Chris Christie (R) 45%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 41%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 44%
Michele Bachmann (R) 42%

Mitt Romney (R) 43%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 42%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 41%
Tim Pawlenty (R) 41%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 42%
Herman Cain (R) 42%

Rick Perry (R) 43%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 42%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 40%
Ron Paul (R) 40%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 44%
Rick Santorum (R) 39%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 47%
Sarah Palin (R) 37%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 45%
Newt Gingrich (R) 33%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 39%
Jon Huntsman Jr. (R) 31%

These numbers just seem to be weird when compared to others. This poll was done June 8-11 among 2132 likely voters and 1015 likely Republican primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 2:00 pm
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118 Responses to “Zogby Says Bachmann Leads GOP Nationally”

  1. david says:


  2. Emerica says:

    Another good poll for Paul

  3. Annie says:

    Take Zogby polls with a grain of salt…However, the second set of polls shows that the only two candidates (one not yet declared) who can have a chance against Obama are Perry and Romney – and there’s your GOP ticket, switched either way around.

  4. pitchaboy says:

    According to Zogby, any elephant will beat the donkey.

  5. sam says:

    I am sure this is Zogby Interactive.

    Invalid, unrepresentative polling.

  6. Emerica says:

    2008 caucus counties in Iowa mapped out. Romney and Huckster won all but one.


    We need more Jefferson counties.,

  7. ameister says:

    Zogby now owned by latin American outfit Maybe they should do a Hugo chavez Vs BO.
    That would be a cliffhanger

  8. bio mom says:

    From NRO about the debt limit squabble.
    More details from McConnell’s office:

    The initial legislation would authorize the President to submit a request to Congress asking to increase the debt limit by $700 billion, and would require submission of a plan to reduce spending by a greater amount.

    Upon receipt of the President’s request, the debt limit would be provisionally increased by $100 billion to provide breathing room and avert an August 2nd default.

    The House and Senate would have 15 days to disapprove of the request.

    Within three days of the President’s request, it would be in order for the House and Senate to introduce a joint resolution disapproving of the President’s request.

    Under expedited consideration of the Resolution of Disapproval, the resolution would be placed directly on the Senate calendar; the Motion to Proceed to the resolution would be privileged; there would be 10 hours of debate and passage would require a simple majority.

    If either chamber defeats the resolution, the remaining $600 billion increase would be allowed.

    If both chambers pass the resolution, it would be sent to the President for a veto or signature.

    If vetoed, debate on an override would be limited to one hour.

    If the veto is overridden (which would require a 2/3 vote) in both chambers, then the request would be denied and the provisional $100 billion increase revoked.

    If the veto is sustained in either chamber, the remaining $600 billion increase would be allowed.

    For the second and third requests in fall 2011 and summer 2012, the President could request an increase of the debt limit by $900 billion once the Treasury Department determines that the country is within $100 billion of the debt limit. The President would also be required to submit a plan to reduce spending by a greater amount. Each of these subsequent requests would be subject to the same disapproval process outlined above.

  9. Emerica says:

    So would this be illegal under new boycott laws? yep!

    The Portland BDS Coalition Mobs New Seasons Grocery demanding a total Boycott of Israeli Products.
    anti-occupation is not anti-semistism.

    Portland BDS Coalition Flash Mobs New Seasons: May 29, 2011

  10. Addisonst says:

    Once again for the Gops it’s very simple and Boehner said it months ago:

    Dear America:

    For every dollar of cuts that s4b brings us except for military, we will raise the debt ceiling by one dollar.

    If he wants it raised 4 billion he needs 4 billion of cuts.

    The onus is on the president to bring his list of cuts.

  11. bio mom says:

    Update on the House response to the contingency proposal: per NRO

    From a Republican aide who would know on the sentiment regarding the contingency plan:

    We, the House, hate this and it will not move. It would basically mean that the President only needs 1/3 of the either body to raise the debt limit, meaning that we would cede our majority status in the House. Can you imagine how insane this would make the grass roots/tea party—we have the numbers to stop an increase, but we completely give up and let Dems uphold a veto with a 1/3 vote. No way.

  12. jan says:

    Thanks bio mom for your informative posts.

    Here is another commentary on McConnell’s voice in these debt ceiling negotiations.

    Mitch McConnell sets the 2012 narrative

  13. jan says:

    More snippets on today’s CA’s special election.

    Republicans try for upset win in California US House election

  14. addisonst says:

    S4B is threatening to withhold social security checks? How effing stupid does he think we are?

    He has no control over the soc sec trust account.

    He might be doing us a favor as folks realize that the govt has “their” money and won’t give it to them.

  15. Emerica says:

    Knesset moves to ban more free speech, in close vote, in response to BDS movement (it must be working.)

    What is the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment and Sanction movement?
    The Palestinian Boycott, Divestment and Sanction (BDS) movement is in the news today. Israel is posed to pass a bill that will criminalize support for the nonviolent movement among Israeli citizens. Risking a criminal sentence, I am publishing some basic information about the BDS movement below as a means of dispelling rumors about BDS and its aims. The information below is taken from the official website of the BDS movement.

  16. Addisonst says:

    Oh noooooooooooooooooo. Israel is going to ban free speech. Let’s relentlessly post about Israel’s failures as a democracy in the middle east because Syria for example is just so tolerant of expression of opinion

  17. jenny says:

    did mcconnell just cave to obama?

  18. Benny says:

    no link??

  19. Addisonst says:

    Secure America Now has just released a new poll showing that only 43 percent of Jews plan to vote to reelect Obama in 2012. If this holds, it would be a considerable drop from the 78 percent of the Jewish vote Obama received in 2008, and from the standard 75–80 percent of the Jewish vote that Democratic political strategists have come to expect and rely upon.

    The bipartisan poll, done by John McLaughlin and Pat Caddell, also found that Obama is likely to have particular trouble with Jews in the all-important state of Florida, as only 34 percent of Florida’s Jews would vote to reelect him. Unsurprisingly, Obama does better among Jews in blue states like California, Illinois, and Maryland, but Republican strategists are unlikely to contest those states heavily, whereas the Florida vote really matters.

    In addition, in a positive sign for the future, Obama’s worst showing in the poll was among Jews under 40. Sixty-one percent of these younger Jews reported that they planned to vote for someone other than Obama for president in 2012. This could indicate that the strange and continuing hold that the Democratic party has had over American Jews could finally be loosening. This latest poll is bad news for Obama in the short term, and problematic for the Democrats in the long term as well.

    As the Terminator would have said to s4b if the terminator were Jewish “Shalom Baby”

  20. HD says:

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Buffeted by high taxes, strict regulations and uncertain state budgets, a growing number of California companies are seeking friendlier business environments outside of the Golden State.

    And governors around the country, smelling blood in the water, have stepped up their courtship of California companies. Officials in states like Florida, Texas, Arizona and Utah are telling California firms how business-friendly they are in comparison.

    Companies are “disinvesting” in California at a rate five times greater than just two years ago, said Joseph Vranich, a business relocation expert based in Irvine. This includes leaving altogether, establishing divisions elsewhere or opting not to set up shop in California.

    “There is a feeling that the state is not stable,” Vranich said. “Sacramento can’t get its act together…and that includes the governor, legislators and regulatory agencies that are running wild.”

    The state has been ranked by Chief Executive magazine as the worst place to do business for seven years.

    “California, once a business friendly state, continues to conduct a war on its own economy,” the magazine wrote.

  21. lisab says:

    Ron Paul won’t run for reelection to the House

  22. HD says:

    #50 Most of 49 was a quoting another poster.




    Sorry, Big Ben

  23. Emerica says:

    No right wing Syrians were running the Office of Special planning. Just saying.

  24. Tim V says:

    Zogby is WRONG, it’s as simple as that.

  25. Emerica says:

    I like ARG’s poll with Ron Paul at 14% barely behind Romney.

    We’ll defeat him there in Iowa.

  26. Tim V says:

    It IS good to see Cain in second place ahead of Romney. 🙂

  27. HD says:

    MD, The swing-states will move R based on a collapsing economy.

  28. HD says:

    Poll: Just 44% say they believe in man-made global warming, down from 71% in 2007

  29. Marv says:


    I noted alot of negative commentary about Perry on earlier threads today. I’ve chosen not to respond directly to each post, but rather to let events take their natural course.

    I do have a piece of advice for those interested…….under no circumstances should one short Perry on Intrade, at least not unless you simply want to throw away money. Perry is a serious man and will be quite formidable. His political opponents do themselves a disservive by underestimating his campaign prowess.

    Perry’s won/loss record in elections is 9 wins and
    0 losses. Including 6-0 in Texas statewide elections. Texas politics is about as rough as it gets and Obama has never had anyone challenge him with the skill-set of Perry. The 2012 campaign will not be for entry-level candidates, nor for simply the next Republican in line.

    Remember this: Romney lost to McCain!!

  30. Emerica says:

    Murdoch’s media take over falls apart.

    Rupert Murdoch was summoned by the British Parliament committee investigating his hacking scandal to give evidence next Tuesday, but it is not yet clear whether he will turn up.

  31. Jason T says:

    Good point Marv.

    The reason many on the right are giving Romney a pass is $$$. We just cannot stomach another McBroke pulling out of swing states by Labor Day.

  32. Gary Maxwell says:

    Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water:

    Moody’s Investors Service has today downgraded Ireland’s foreign- and local-currency government bond ratings

  33. Jason T says:

    Emerica is Bunu

  34. Marv says:

    Hey Addisonst, you too MFG……

    Get used to, boys!!!

  35. Jason T says:

    Gary, the day Ireland joined the EU, they went downhill

  36. Jason T says:

    Marv, forgot to say that Perry and Romney are the only two, in my mind, who can raise the big $$$

  37. lisab says:

    ireland is the only country in the eu with decent whiskey

  38. Gary Maxwell says:

    I think Scotland might have a bone to pick with that.

  39. rdelbov says:

    take a zogby poll to the 7-11 for Joe Biden to order

  40. jenny says:

    perry is a phony. why is he having prayer meeting? is he a governor or preacher? i’m a Christian but i don’t trust people who wear their religion on their sleeves. i predict romney will be the nominee and perry will fade like fred thompson. also, we learn from our mistakes. romney is running a very good campaign. i love his campaign ads.

  41. jason the tard says:

    Zogby the Democrat is pushing Bachmann….. what a surprise.

  42. Marv says:

    #38 Jason T,

    Perry knows where the big-boy money is. Romney knows where his own money is, it won’t be enough….Perry will get the big-boy money.

  43. Marv says:

    #42 jenny,

    You’ve been ID’d as an infiltrator. In the intel business, that means you’ve be compromised. We’ll continue to feed you false information.

    By the way, the invasion will be at Pas de Calais,
    pass it on.

  44. Addisonst says:

    Marv, why did you direct the comment about perry negativity at me? I hadn’t said anything about him today pos or neg.

    But now that you mention it, he matriculated at the Aggie trade school because he didn’t have the chops to get into the U. of Texas.

  45. Jason T says:

    Marv, Perry will get the 2000 and 2004 Bush $$$. his texas Rangers were huge donors for the GOP. They took a pass on McShame

  46. HD says:

    Several Fed officials said that the government would have to consider new monetary policy to stimulate the economy, especially if growth remains too slow to reduce the unemployment rate.

  47. Jason T says:

    Add, has been positive about Perry, from his posts

  48. Gary Maxwell says:

    And several more said ” No Way.” I dont think you are going to see any more new stimulative monetary policy, but they may continue to reinvest prinicipal repayments into new instruments. I doubt they have the votes at the FED to do any more.

  49. KnightHawk says:

    5. Yup, not much to see here.

  50. Gary Maxwell says:

    I wonder how far off Zogby can be in the interactive versus a guy like Jensen deliberately putting his thumb on the scale? It might turn out the Zogster is more accurate than PPP (KOS)

  51. lisab says:

    “I think Scotland might have a bone to pick with that.”

    and the scots would be wrong …

    scotch is distilled twice

    irish whiskey three times

    making irish whiskey by far the better whiskey

    and it does not have that horrid burnt flavor either

  52. Marv says:

    Gov Perry met with Pervez Musharaff…….pretty obvious that the Governor is in debate-prep mode now.

    (Buckle up Obama, you’re in for a rough ride there, bud.)

  53. GF says:

    Scotland is also not part of the EU directly, but rather, a Crown dependency and conquered land. Conquered no less by a bunch of bloody weinkers. No wonder they drink so much up there.

  54. Marv says:

    #46 Addisonst,

    I wasn’t directing the post at you at all, sorry that you misunderstood. I saw that you were on last, so I chose to put the post up…..we’re cool. (As the kids would say)

  55. lisab says:

    “By the way, the invasion will be at Pas de Calais, ”

    why tell her that now …

    the invasion is not until august after all

  56. Marv says:

    #49 Jason T,

    Yeah, addisonst has been positive, you’re right.
    Check out #56.

  57. KnightHawk says:

    19. No, but his trial balloon was shot down fast.
    22. Shocker! 😉
    24. No problem buddy it happens.

  58. KnightHawk says:

    52. I take large doses of salt with anything from either operation.

  59. Marv says:

    #57 lisab,

    It’s going to be later than that, we’re having trouble at Willys-Overland Motors Corporation. Alot of our jeep orders are backed up because the dang UAW walked off the job due to some affirmative action dispute.

  60. Emerica says:

    Lots of dog and pony show, but he plans to keep the wars going and plans to go along with debt ceiling increase.

  61. Emerica says:

    Rand Paul need to come out against McConnell’s reelection.

    He sucks

  62. lisab says:

    biggest german mistake of ww2

    a.) attacking the ussr


    b.) declaring war on the usa

  63. Marv says:

    #65 lisab,

    Attacking the USSR was the big screw-up. Hitler had no strategic reason to do that.

    Had he concentrated his forces in western Europe……well, I can’t imagine how difficult it would have been to recapture the area.

  64. Emerica says:

    McConnell is the master of bloviating stagecraft.

  65. lisab says:

    “Attacking the USSR was the big screw-up. Hitler had no strategic reason to do that.”

    his ultimate goal was to take all of eastern europe including western russia

  66. Addisonst says:

    Bubu don’t you have another flotilla to organize?

    Or isn’t this bring your favorite terrorist to work day? Go introduce Hamas Mohammed to your co workers and let the grownups talk.

  67. Marv says:

    #68 lisab,

    Maybe so, but he should have finished off western Europe and the UK first. Speaking strictly from the military aspect of it only and not the propriety of any of his efforts.

  68. Marv says:


    Why do students at UT think that the “Eyes of Texas” is the state song? It’s actually “Texas, our Texas.”

  69. rdelbov says:

    No Marv

    at UT the state song is “Rocky Top”

  70. Addisonst says:

    Marv, I never had a discussion once about the state song. The Eyes of Texas is also not the true school song which is Texas Fight.

    First lines and you can google this,

    “Texas Fight, Texas Fight and it’s goodbye to A&M”

    However for the grace and majesty of college football tradition there is nothing finer than a stadium full of fans, Hook EM Horns fingers outreached singing the Eyes of Texas.

    I will grant you that the military academies have some great sports traditions but they are steeped in ceremony so it’s not unique.

    The only thing even close from a non military school is the Seminole coming out with the spear.

  71. Marv says:

    #72 rdelbov,

    Foxtrot Uniform!! 😉

  72. Addisonst says:

    Rdel there is only one orange wearing UT that matters that is the school in Austin.

    And as a continuance from my post on the best college football tradition, Rocky top is without question the worst college fight song. I’m not even sure there is a #2.

  73. Marv says:

    #73 Addisonst,

    Yep, the Florida State tradition is great. So is the USC Roman Warrior on the horse.

  74. GF says:

    Both were stupid, lisa, but only in tandem. Seperately, they were less fatal, particularly Barbarossa, so I would say that going to war with the US (totally unnecessary) was by far the dumber choice. Keeping the US at bay in that theater could have given Hitler the time he needed against the USSR, although he was going to be stretched thin as it was. I am not convinced that Stalin, despite having a vastly larger manpool, could have made the big push without the tremendous resources he received from the West. I know everyone cries about those factories that were moved East, but we still provided the Russians with enormous resources, not the least of which was fuel. A European theater minus the US could have easily led to a stalemate.

    Make no mistake, both decisions were silly and frankly, beyond reproach. Still, Hitler would have had to fight Stalin at some point. Rolling the dice when he seemed weaker was probably the lesser of evils option. Moving Barbarossa up to April (and thus bypassing the Balkans mess to clean up after Italy) would likely have improved the odds of collapsing the Soviet Union into partisan warfare once a strong defensive line was established upon the Volga and Dneiper Rivers.

  75. Marv says:

    #75 lisab,

    Foxtrot Uniform too!! 😉

  76. jason the tard says:

    Obama stooge from the Addisonst School of Sycophants lectures business leaders, after GE eliminated 36,000 jobs in the last 2 years. Jeffrey Inmelt:

    “The people who are part of the business sector, the people in this room, have got to stop complaining about government and get some action underway,” he told the group. “There’s no excuse today for lack of leadership. The truth is we all need to be part of the solution.”

  77. Addisonst says:

    Marv do you know the name of the Trojan and his horse?

    For my money USC has the best fight song over the cliched ND and Michigan crap.

    USC also has the best cheerleaders.

  78. Marv says:


    And another thing, I don’t appreciate the Navy encroaching on Hickam. The Navy is starting to show up at the service-clubs on the base.

  79. Marv says:

    #81 Addisonst,

    The Trojan’s name is Tommy and the horse is Traveler VII. (Tommy is what they named the statue of the Trojan which is in the center of the USC campus)

  80. jason the tard says:

    “Emerica is Bunu”.

    My heart almost stopped. For a second I thought I read “America”.

  81. Addisonst says:

    Well played Marv. In fact you went me one better as I did not know the number on Traveler.

  82. Gary Maxwell says:

    We might finally be finished with the racist anti semitic Ron Paul. Can I get an “amen?”

  83. lisab says:

    say what you will about the navy …

    they have BY FAR

    the better uniforms

    given the choice any woman is going to prefer to be with a navy guy ceteris paribus

    better uniforms … and they are not underfoot for extended periods of time

  84. Addisonst says:

    Navy has the same uniforms as notre dame.

    At least ND has the right to the gold helmets given their golden dome.

  85. Gary Maxwell says:

    I think you have not seen the dress uniforms of the other forces.

  86. Gary Maxwell says:

    The good humor man is not that striking a look, if you were asking me.

  87. Addisonst says:

    the navy summer whites scream Ghey.

  88. jason the tard says:

    Politico has a headline about how the Administration has “the high ground on the debt debate”.

    To prove it, they quote, hmmm, surprise, drum roll……………DEMOCRATS.

    “Obama wants $4 trillion in debt reduction,” while GOP wants only $2trillion to $3 trillion, wrote veteran Democratic pollster Geoff Garin. It “seems clear now which one is serious about tackling the debt.”

    Added a senior Democratic aide, “He’s got the high ground. He’s the adult in the room. He’s looking good right now.”

    It has to be true….

  89. GF says:

    Sorry about that, Marv; our clubs suck. You see, we spend our outlays on dredging the harbour for piers and channels, building warehouses and repair shops, installing cranes and other service equipment, and then finish it off with personnel support facilities. If we have any cash left over, we build an O club (a rather cr@ppy one at that). We have yet to learn the USAF way of doing business, i.e.

    1) Receive funds from Congress for new base

    2) Build golf course

    3) Build lavish O clubs and E clubs

    4) Build Commissary

    5) Build BX (Base Exchange for you civvies)

    6) Build food court

    7) Build nice base housing

    8) Build nice base schools and parks for families

    9) Build bowling aller.

    Once your $500 million or so runs out, you come back to Congress and ask for a $100 million augment to build runways, hangars and the various support facilities. Because funds are spent on quality of life like this, promotion sucks to the degree that one must wait for someone to retire or die to take their job, but life is rather comfortable in between. Our only advantage is that we have to be close to a coast (except recruiting stations, boot camp at Great Lakes, IL, and a few God-forsaken airstrips in the middle of nowhere e.g. Fallon, NV, and Lemoore, CA). I’ve driven by some of your inland bases in places liek Burnt Scrotum, New Mexico; you could not pay me to live there, no matter how nice the dining hall is.

  90. jason the tard says:

    The Secret Service has the best uniforms.

  91. Marv says:

    #87 lisab,

    Air Force pilots sleep in air conditioned quarters, their flight suits are neatly pressed and often worn with white silk scarves. They wear aviator sunglasses and their uniform caps are worn in such a fashion as to exude a self-assured attitude about just everything in general. When they enter the bar, women flock around them almost immediately.

  92. jason the tard says:

    ” We might finally be finished with the racist anti semitic Ron Paul. Can I get an “amen?”


  93. sam says:

    ” “How much does the Biden plan actually cut from next year’s discretionary spending budget?” the Kentucky Republican asked the room.

    Obama’s Office of Management and Budget Director Jacob Lew told him, “$2 billion.”

    A second source close to the original Biden group confirmed this number.”

    A whole $2 billion saved! Doesn’t everyone feel better already? Don’t spend it all in one place.

  94. GF says:

    Better to have the “ghey” white uniform than those hideous olive drab rags that the Army calls a “uniform.” And don;’t get me started on the Marines; their dress blues are awesome, but whoever thought you could get away with olive drab and blue pants with a red stripe?

    Marv, I must credit Hickam with not requiring those silly base decals for years now. We are just finally getting rid of them. I cannot recall how many times I drove through Hickam to get into Pearl through the back gate by the housing area b/c the state of Hawaii would not put a safety sticker on my ’56 Caddy, and the communist Navy decal office felt the need to back up the preposterous Hawaiian regulations. B@st@rds!

  95. Marv says:

    #93 GF,

    I really don’t see the problem with #1-9. We always get the money for the airfields and airplanes anyway. Thank God for Billy Mitchell and Curtis LeMay.

  96. Marv says:

    #98 GF,

    The Commander of Navy Region Hawaii, who is responsible for such matters, should grow a set.
    Enough with trying to get along with local politicians, on HI they’re all a bunch of Marxists anyway. Foxtrot them too.

    I’m really now sweating it too much because President Perry is going to fix everything that’s wrong with America, so no problem.

  97. GF says:

    I’ll see you on LeMay, but all Mitchell did was sink a few boat sitting at anchor and justify an air arm on that alone. Ships that were not moving nor firing back at them. Ships that also did not have radar fire control as well. I am pleased to say that we’ve come a long way from those days to being able to deflect an air assault on our strike groups. I use as the basis for my claim the recent “Northern Edge” operation we conducted up in Alaska; if we can swat the USAF down like that, I am much more confident that the USN can deal with any Chicom or Iranian threat out there.

  98. CPA says:

    The secular feminist onslaught of Bachmann begins.

  99. Marv says:

    #101 GF,

    I’m glad the Navy did well in “Northern Edge” Someday there will be a serious military confrontation with the Chicoms. I hope that there is a conservative Republican in the White House and a GOP Congress when that happens. Hopefully, they will have been there long enought to re-arm America before the confrontation.

  100. Marv says:

    #102 CPA,

    What happened now?

  101. GF says:

    Tango, Marv, and I am sure that President Perry will lead the way in rebuilding the fleet as well as the other services.

  102. Addisonst says:

    n/t loosahs

  103. Marv says:

    #105 GF,

    Perry will get to the fleet rebuilding part eventually, first he wants Air Force football to challenge for the National Championship.

    His dream match-up would be Texas A&M (from which he graduated) against Air Force (in which he was a pilot).

  104. KnightHawk says:

    102 – You knew it would come.

  105. Tim V says:

    Hail to the Victors Valiant
    Hail to the Conquering Heroes
    Hail, Hail to Michigan
    The Champions of the West!!!

    Eat THAT Add.

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