Gingrich Dominates in FL and MT

This really is not even news anymore, but Public Policy Polling has come out with the polls for Florida and Montana showing Republicans support for Gingrich surging.

Newt Gingrich 47%
Mitt Romney 17%
Herman Cain 15%
Ron Paul 5%
Michele Bachmann 4%
Jon Huntsman 3%
Rick Perry 2%
Rick Santorum 1%
Gary Johnson 0%

Newt Gingrich 37%
Ron Paul 12%
Mitt Romney 11%
Herman Cain 10%
Michele Bachmann 10%
Rick Perry 5%
Jon Huntsman 3%
Rick Santorum 1%
Gary Johnson 1%

PPP also gives us some primary numbers for the US Senate race in Florida and the Gubernatorial race in Montana.

Connie Mack IV 40%
George LeMieux 12%
Mike McCalister 4%
Adam Hasner 3%
Craig Miller 3%

Rick Hill 37%
Ken Miller 10%
Jeff Essmann 5%
Jim Lynch 4%
Jim O’Hara 3%
Neil Livingstone 3%
Corey Stapleton 2%
Bob Fanning 1%

Both polls were done November 28-30 among 470 primary voters in FL and 700 primary voters in MT.

Posted by Dave at 5:05 pm
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141 Responses to “Gingrich Dominates in FL and MT”

  1. BayernFan says:

    Too late

  2. jason says:

    ” Wow. Some great battles here today.

    Newt would lose VA, NC, OH (by a ton), FL (wither on the vine anyone?) and MO. Plus some red states would have to be defended fiercely like LA, TN, AR and KY. We could lose 2 of those 4.
    Funny that people are so stupid and/or bigoted to realize the obvious. I exclude plants like fiscus and Chek from the above. They are Obama supporters.”

    What can I say. I agree with MD… 8)

  3. Addisonst says:

    a gold and a bronze

  4. jason says:

    MD, I get called the village idiot for speaking the obvious, the ficus is an Obama sycophant now reborn as a Perry, huh, Newt “conservative”. And Tea Partier to boot, adds more credibility (pun intended).

    I don’t know what you will be called.

    I would prefer “idiot savant” for myself.

  5. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    47-17?? 37-12??


  6. DW says:

    314.310….oh I forgot that one!! How many Dem ads are all ready to be written against newt and the Social Security “wither on the vine” comment??

    Here goes the start of the ad:

    {spooky music playing} Republican Newt Gingrich wants your Social Security payments to end. Not reduced, he and his Republican allies in congress want to END social security. [clip of newt: ‘it will wither on the vine’]

    Yes, they will in EVERY AD tie Newt to the Republican congress and thereby put the gavel back in Nancy Pelosi’s fingers.

  7. MD says:

    I don’t care what fiscus calls me jason. His agenda is so obvious.

  8. Corey says:

    The Pointer Sisters are doing the
    Newt-run Dance.

  9. jason says:

    Funny how the “newt conservatives” love them PPP-Daily KOS polls….

    As soon as they fizzle, they will be trash again.

  10. Corey says:

    For the holiday season, maybe we can refer to Add as the “Poinsettia.”

  11. MD says:

    Newt – “the consistent conservative”. Makes me laugh every time.

  12. jason says:

    I wonder which part of the conservative Newt ficus the tea partier likes best.

    1. HC mandate on nationwide basis.
    2. Carbon tax
    3. Fairness doctrine
    4. Amnesty
    5. Global warming ad with Nancy Pelosi

    I think its all of them.

  13. Corey says:

    Newt is clearly a very gutsy conservative. What other candidate will have the gonads to go up there and talk about Obama’s Kenyan father, and how his British colonial background animates everything Obama does.

    America will eat that stuf up! Anybody who cannot see it is just too PC.

  14. marc says:

    La La La of the cliff the GOP goes..

  15. Wes says:

    To be fair to Newt, the “wither on the vine” comment was taken grossly out of context. It would be effectively used against him, however.

    Wow. Two passive-voice sentences in a row. I needto brush up on my grammar.

  16. lisab says:

    “The same people saying Newt will lose the GE were the same ones saying he would tank in a week and never maintain his lead over Romney.”

    i have asked him half a dozen times to list the states gingrich would win to get to 270

    he tried it once and got to 181 electoral votes

    the best he can do is say

    IF obama gets 45% gingrich will probably win

    and yet he still cannot list the states

    gingrich just has no likely path to victory

  17. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    Newt 45 Obama 43. Poll = Rasmussen

    Chew on that!

  18. Wes says:

    He also refused to take my bet after saying Gingrich would beat Obama, Lisa. He clearly doesn’t believe his own BS.

  19. marc says:

    I told y’all so. I was called eyeore etec. But once again I have been proven right.

    The average GOP primary voter is all about protest and opposition with little interest in governing. They disdain intelligence and knowledge and have created a reality that is out of the mainstream of America.

  20. Wes says:

    How’s Newt doing in individual states, Newt?

    Chew on that!!

  21. lisab says:

    gingrich is on video with hillary

    defending NATIONALIZED health care

    how can he go after obamacare?

  22. MD says:

    Guys – 2 client meetings tonight and a client dinner. Insane.

  23. jason says:

    I could probably go back and find some post where the ficus berated me for backing horrible mandate in MA loving Romney.

    And lo and behold, gasp, was Newt in favor of death panels?

  24. Wes says:

    I don’t know if they disdain intelligence and knowledge, Marc, since Newt has a lot of both. He’s just a horrible candidate.

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    MD – I lost by 225 votes. What happened to the 253 absentee ballots? Are they still in your car, you lazy mf-er?

  26. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    When Newt holds Obama to 43%, you don’t think he can reach 270 EVs? Laughable.. Assimilate , my friend.

    Obama is not getting 270EVs while getting 43% of the vote.

  27. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    Funny how all the Mitt supporters are posting videos and going batsh*t crazy today. Must be really really word about good ole Lefty Mitt!


  28. Corey says:

    Newt has ex-wives though, unlike Mitt.

    That makes him a better candidate and more relatable to the people. According to LaZebra, Mitt is not even a normal human being because he has not committed adultery. Mitt ought to be ashamed of himself for living a life of virtue.

    If Mitt did not at least consider leaving his wife Ann, after she was diagnosed with M.S. and then cancer, he clearly does not have the human sensitivity to appeal to Middle America.

    A decent, honorable human being in the Oval Office? How passe.

  29. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    really really *worried*

  30. jason says:

    I think Newt is already heading for Al Gore land…

    Tonight on Hannity:

    “I helped Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp develop supply side economics. I helped lead the effort to defeat communism in the Congress.”

  31. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    #28 Here we go again .. Got anything new Corey?


  32. DW says:

    15….sure…and I for one wish that SS WOULD wither on the vine and be gone….so long as I get out what I put in, not a penny more or less. but it will never happen and that line would be enough to DESTROY any slim hope Newt had. Dems have to be absolutely ELATED by this GOP stupiditiy.

    And wait until dems cross over in open primaries to stuff out ballot boxes with votes for NEWT.

  33. Wes says:

    Hhhhmmmm…Let’s see. The Newtians claim we shouldn’t look at polls this far out. Then they cite a poll with Obama at 43% as if it’s the fait accompli of the race. Curiouser and curiouser.

  34. lisab says:

    “really really *worried*”

    for the country

  35. jason says:

    Newtmomentum living his 15 minutes of glory.

    It’s all downhill from here, reality will set in.

    Gingrich was unelectable yesterday.

    He will be unelectable tomorrow too.

  36. Corey says:

    About a week ago, Newt personally took credit for the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan. Pretty impressive for a freshman Congressman.

    The man’s mouth has no filter, which is why the more puffed up he gets, the more likely he is going to say something to just knock himself out of this thing.

    I hope he waits until after XMAS at least.

  37. Emerica says:

    Is Romney going to blow another 50 million or so of his fortune this time?

  38. marc says:

    Rassmusen is a fruad. His 2010 polls were the one of the worst of the bunch for that cycle.

  39. J T says:

    Wes, the next 10 days are Huge. We need Newt to start tanking before then, after that it is getting late in the game for Mitt.

    Has Rubio been leaning towards Romney?

  40. DW says:

    I recall back in 2008 one of you PA guys was on here on election day telling how you were driving a van to deliver Republican seniors out to the polls and how one passenger revealed she would vote Obama.

    Try keeping ANY of them in that van voting for newt after they see the ads about Newt wanting to end Social Security.

  41. Wes says:

    I agree, Jason, about the next couple of weeks.

  42. J T says:

    38. BS, Marc. RAS is the best pollster there is, Gold standard in 2004 and 2008

  43. jason says:

    ” When Newt holds Obama to 43%,”

    I don’t think this match-up will happen, but if it does can we make this bet right now?

    You name the stakes, the sky is the limit.

    Let’s round it up to 45% just to be fair.

    You say Newt holds Obama to 45%. I say he doesn’t.

    And before you guys complain I am taking money from an idiot, remember my taxes are going to skyrocket.

  44. marc says:

    We all agree that Newt would be defeated in a General Election against Obama because of a host of things . What we need to examine is why would the GOP primary voter vote for him knowing this fact?

  45. Corey says:

    I’m still taking bets from anyone on Gingrich vs. Romney for the nomination by the way.

    Let me know.

  46. J T says:

    Has anyone ever picked a running mate, before getting the nomination?

  47. Wes says:

    Reagan tried that tactic in 1976, Jason. It didn’t work.

  48. Corey says:

    “What we need to examine is why would the GOP primary voter vote for him knowing this fact?”

    They don’t realize it yet. They are the 99% who aren’t into this politics stuff like we are. They will figure it out when they are forced to actually think about it.

    They aren’t there yet and probably won’t be until after New Year’s Eve.

  49. Corey says:

    Buddy Roemer said the other day he would ask Joe Lieberman to be his running mate.

    In 1992, Jerry Brown said if nominated he would pick Jesse Jackson.

  50. marc says:

    Im talking about 2010 JT.His polls were crap. Go check it out.

  51. HD says:

    William Galston

    Demographics don’t lie: Obama’s in trouble

    It’s clear that Obama’s margins are down—way down—not just among swing voters, but in the core of his coalition as well. Compounding the problem, the base’s enthusiasm and intensity have declined as well. As Gerald Seib has noted, while Democrats won the intensity race hands-down in 2008, the reverse is the case today. In the most recent NBC/WSJ poll, 56 percent of Republicans said that they were more enthusiastic than usual, versus only 43 percent of Democrats, and 59 percent of conservatives profess to be more enthusiastic than usual, versus only 38 percent of liberals. Over the past year, every survey has found these same disparities.
    The bottom line is that unless things turn around considerably in the next eleven months, key parts of Obama’s winning 2008 coalition are poised to deliver both lower margins and smaller shares of the electorate than they did in 2008. (In general elections, actual votes closely mirror pre-election approval ratings.)

  52. pitchaboy says:

    Newtmentum has set in but it will eventually fall. You have to admire his strategy: debate like hell, dont panic, take the high road in the debates so that nobody effectively goes after his crazy positions and hope a couple of the guys crash and burn. It is not a coincidence that the conservatives are settling on him last; he is their last anti-Romney choice. In my mind, this election will be about Obama, economy and unemployment. The rest are a side-show.

  53. lisab says:

    “What we need to examine is why would the GOP primary voter vote for him knowing this fact?”

    because romney is mormon

  54. pitchaboy says:

    Given current state of affairs, the big O wont get to 50% against my doggie Timmy without third party help.

  55. J T says:

    Wes, who was Reagan’s Choice in 1976?

  56. jason says:

    I beg forgiveness of the legitimate Newt entusiasts here but he does have an eclectic group of supporters.

    1) LaBigot, who thinks Newt’s abominable personal life is ok as long as he is not a Mormon,

    2) The LTP, who has been shilling for Obama for years, is scared sh…less of Romney pimped for Perry, and now is re-born as a Newt tea partier.

    3) Chekote, an avid Obama supporter and open borders advocate who magically supported the hated “Christian right wing” Perry and is now reborn as a Newt supporter.

    4) Newtmomnentum, drunk with his 15 minutes of happiness.

  57. pitchaboy says:

    75% of the base is not against Romney because he is Mormon; that is likely about 20%. The rest think he has more positions on issues than is described in the Kama Sutra.

  58. J T says:

    Pitch, you bring up a good point. The Dems did always a third party Trojan Horse to help Obama

  59. marc says:

    After New Years is when the voting happens. I’m not nearly has optimistic about primary voters realizing anything. Cheered on by the pill popper Rush and other “conservative” media figures they have mislead these voters and allowed them to believe things that are nonfactual and untrue and this is the end result. Were ignorance is now a plus and promoted by certain candidates, they oppose just to oppose without offering an alternative. A Protest Party with no interest in governing.

  60. Corey says:

    In 1976, Reagan picked Senator Richard Schweiker, a moderate Republican from Pennsylvania.

    Feel free to ask me these questions as well J T. Give me the chance to show off my useless knowledge.

  61. Wes says:

    Liberal Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA), Jason.

  62. Corey says:

    Newt also has CPA.

  63. jason says:

    ” What we need to examine is why would the GOP primary voter vote for him knowing this fact?”

    For a bigot like LaZebra he will consider himself ahead because he defeated Mormonism.

    For others Romney is a RINO, beating RINOS sends a message, even if it elects Obama.

  64. marc says:

    pitchaboy is a fine example of ignorance on display. Did Rush tell you those things pitch?

  65. J T says:

    Thanks Wes

  66. pitchaboy says:

    The dems had a damaged candidate called Clinton and were helped by Perot. The only dem in a long while to get more than 50% is Obama riding on a wave of Bush hatred, crashing finances and misplaced racial justice. Not happenning this time; so perk up and go vote your conscience in the primary.

  67. Corey says:

    Clearly J T has once again “given up” on me.

    I will find a way to get him back. There must be a way…

  68. Addisonst says:

    Hey Village Idiot and Napoleon,

    which part of “I will vote for whomever the Republican nominee is including without limitation Mitt Romney” suggests that I will in fact be voting for s4b?

    Which part of “I voted for McCain in 2008 and Romney in the Illinois Primary that year” suggests that I didn’t vote for McCain or Romney that year?

    Which part of “I voted for the Tea Party endorsed guy for Illinois Gov in our 2010 primary says” I don’t like the tea party?

    Which part of “My son who graduates 8th grade next week is interviewing for a tea party internship as we speak.

    Comment by addisonst — June 8, 2011 @ 8:28 pm

    Says no tea party here?

    Which part of “Obama has been a con man from day one. Those of us in Chicago know it although most don’t care

    Comment by addisonst — October 29, 2008 @ 10:44 pm” says I love Obama?

    I know the Village Idiot’s native language isn’t English. So he’s got a partial excuse. Napoleon must just be brain damaged.

    The Village Idiot wasn’t even here in 08. But both of you are stuck on stupid.

  69. Wes says:

    My problem is with the ideology of Mormonism and not wanting to see it spread…

    –La Zebra

  70. newt says:

    ” The rest think he has more positions on issues than is described in the Kama Sutra.”

    You rannnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggg?????

    Romney is an apprentice flip flopper compared to me…

    Actually, I invented flip-flopping while I was stopping communism.

  71. pitchaboy says:

    I have no time to listen to Rush as I have sick people to take care of. Of course, out here, if there is an alternate point of view, we dismiss it as stupid or ignorant.

  72. J T says:

    Marc, Pitch was the first one here to say Scott Brown would win in MASS, way before anybody thought he had a chance in Hell.

    So just STFU, you frickin Doomer

  73. Corey says:

    So, who else thinks that if hypothetically Gingrich gets nominated, Michael Bloomberg actually decides to get in the race?

    Under that hypothetical scenario, I could see him getting in and getting around 20% of the vote.

    Needless to say, Obama would not need anywhere near 50% to beat Gingrich. I think Gingrich would top out at about 35% nationally.

  74. marc says:

    Obama got over 50% pitch. Again doesn’t like facts get in the way of your made up reality.

  75. jason says:

    ” My problem is with the ideology of Mormonism and not wanting to see it spread… ”

    But he isn’t a bigot.

    I wonder what he would have said if he WAS a bigot.

  76. Corey says:

    There was no official “Tea Party endorsed” candidate for IL Gov in 2010, but if Add voted for who he said he did in that primary, it was a massively wasted vote, contributed to the reelection of Pat Quinn, and the redistricting that will cost us at least 3 House seats in the state.

  77. pitchaboy says:

    If I ran twice for President, garnered no more than 25% OF THE votes each time and still kept spending my hard earned fortune; is that good business or rank stupidity?

  78. Wes says:

    Actually, Jason, Hellbelly was ahead of the curve on that one. I expressed the idea that the Dems’ spate of wins in special elections might come to an end with Brown but stopped short of a prediction. Hellbelly was the first to say Brown could win. Not surprising since he’s on the ground in Massachusetts and has a better feel for local politics than those of us not living there.

  79. marc says:

    Your view point is not based in facts pitch. It’s pure fantasy. No the election won’t be about Obama with the wrong candidate, no people are not gonna vote for someone they thing is unfit to be President over the one they have now, Now Newts baggage and Clinton’s baggage are not comparable in time.

  80. Bitterlaw says:

    A lot of Republican primary voters only care about defeating perceived RINOs like Romney- even if they have to turn to a bigger RINO like Newt.

  81. J T says:

    Add is a fine conservative, and been against Obama from the first time I saw him here. Who doubts this?

  82. Corey says:

    They would turn Newt into a total racist. A complete Klansman.

    And even though that would be unfair, so many people would revile Newt personally, it would be a lost cause to try to defend him on that.

  83. J T says:

    Wes, Hellbelly and Pitch, you were also high on Brown in the beginning. I remember it, because I thought he had no chance myself in Soviet Mass.

  84. Wes says:


    That’s what La Zebra typed in Post 235 two threads down as part of a larger comment explaining how he ISN’T a bigot, Jason.

  85. marc says:

    Corey I fell it will be more like Florida’s Senate race results in 2010. The Democrat vote will be solid plus with indie support at 50% or near there and the other 50% split between Newt and Bloomberg. I could see Newt actually coming in third.

    I don’t see GOP women voting for him in large number along with evangelicals.

  86. jason says:

    The LTP does what every plant does. Picks a few selective quotes but ignores hundreds of “the economy is growing” posts. The stock market is up. Pork bellies are up. Gold is up. Housing is up. Obamanomics rules!!!!!!

  87. J T says:

    76. Corey, Kirk Dillard was too cozy with Obama. that killed him in the primary, and allowed Brady in.

    I voted for Dillard, but his loss was self inflicted.

    OK, this is where you defend Obama , Corey

  88. Addisonst says:

    Corey, I voted for the Polish rifle whom I saw speak at Navy pier at a tea party event 4th of july weekend and that was the first time I met and heard Isaac Hayes, who ran against jesse jr speak.

    The polish rifle was a tea party favorite and mentioned by Rush.

    Had I not voted for him, I’d have voted for the guy I thought was going to be the next gov which was McKenna

    I also attended the Kirk party that night in the Westin in Wheeling.

  89. pitchaboy says:

    So you and I have a honest difference in opinion on the essence of the election and we could discuss it without calling each other names. I maintain that it will be about the big O and his economy and employment policies.Newt is a known entity, warts and all, and if he is standing at the end of the primaries, passing the scrutiny of what is going to be a bruising primary process, he will be fine. I would much rather be in the Republican shoes than Obama’s at this time, and his polling internals are dreadful.So calm down, debate with civility and enjoy the process.

  90. jason says:

    ” Who doubts this? ”

    Me, and others who can smell a plant a mile away.

    He shilled for Obama for years before it became untenable to say how well the economy was doing.

    He is as much a conservative or a tea partier as I am a Paulbot.

  91. J T says:

    86. Jason , you and Add are on the same side. Both want Obama to lose Badly

  92. Addisonst says:

    The stock market is up. Pork bellies are up. Gold is up. Housing is up. Obamanomics rules!!!!!!

    The village idiot proves his title again. All I’ve done is rail against obamanomics. you can’t find a quote where i praised his economics. Because you are to pardon your phrase a pathological liar.

    Now show me how “the stock market is up” is a political post in the first place.

    I was here in oct of 08 ripping obama. Where were you?

  93. Corey says:

    Dillard would have beaten Quinn and beaten him fairly easily, so he should have won the primary.

    But it was a very crowded field in general. Add voted for the guy who came in dead last I believe, and who never had any chance of winning the primary, while the day of the voting 4 other candidates, looked like possible winners.

  94. Corey says:

    I can’t see why you would have had McKenna as your second choice. McKenna was hated by Tea Party types.

    And I was at the Westin with Mark Kirk the night he won the general!


  95. Emerica says:

    New Paul ad put up on Drudgereport that attacks the giant Toad.

  96. J T says:

    I agree Dillard would have won in the GE

  97. pitchaboy says:

    I am the first to agree that Romney is a stronger candidate than Newt; however, I want the democratic process to play out without calling our fellow Republicans names. Chosing a candidate is very personal and I respect an individual’s choice, even if I disagree with it.

  98. Addisonst says:

    Here’s me praising the entire, awesome administration. “we need to have a HHR/Groundhog pool on which hapless, incompetent Obama administration hack will be jettisoned first. So many to choose from and I’m not even gonna put Hillary on the list:


    Wow, Hildebeast is the least incompetent of the bunch. I know I’m forgetting a couple too.

    Comment by addisonst — February 2, 2010 @ 2:00 pm

  99. Corey says:

    Jim Ryan or McKenna would have beaten Quinn too.

    The only candidates who would have done worse than Brady are the guy that Add voted for and Dan Proft.


  100. Bitterlaw says:

    Some people thought that Perry would win Florida because he was brave and honest for calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme. Has anybody seen Perry lately? Wait until “wither on the vine” runs all day every day with $1 billion Obamadollars to pound the message home.

  101. Tina says:

    What are Pawn Hannity and Hush Bimbo pushing today?

  102. Newtmentum says:

    Where is your compassion for Newt? He was molested at 16 hrs old by his teacher. She should be in prison with the other rapists. If it was a male teacher and a female student no one would be blaming the student. I’m sure this event at such a young impressionable age affecteded his ability to maintain longterm stable relationships with the opposite sex. Finally with Calista he has been able to get beyond the demons that have haunted him as a result of the abuse at such a young age. This will makes him very sympathetic to the electorate.

  103. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    The Mitt-buddies can’t discuss civilly. They constantly throw out personal attacks and bring up events from decades ago.

    For some reason, they really like they’re flip floppin lefty Mittens!

  104. Newtmentum says:

    Market up due to Ras poll showing Newt surging past Obama.

  105. Emerica says:

    Serial hypocrisy not just in his personal life, but also as a lobbyist and a politician.

    Ron Paul ad: Newt’s lobbying firm took over 30 million dollars for supporting Obama’s individual mandate.

  106. Tina says:

    Mad Cow Alert!!!!!

    Michelle slips out of WH to dine on swordfish sliders and ‘edible chocolate sculpture’…

  107. Waingro says:

    WOW. Brilliant ad by Ron Paul of all people just TORCHING Newt.

    Romney needs to come out and do the same thing.

    I can’t believe people are gonna fall for this guy.

  108. Waingro says:

    #105, Bunu, gotta say, Ron Paul is my hero today with that ad!

  109. Bitterlaw says:

    How is Newt conservative? The answer is not “How is Romney a conservative?”. The answer should be about Newt.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    Stop attacking lobbyists. Jul’s a lobbyist and we love him.

  111. NewtMentum 2012!!!! says:

    The smell of desperation – I love it.

    Go NEWT!

  112. Cory says:

    Holy CRAP. That is a blistering ad.

    I’ve been getting pretty giddy about Newt leading the polls, but that was a bucket of cold water.

  113. Emerica says:

    Video: Steyn destroyed Gingrich on the Limbaugh show as well pointing out that Gingrich uses tons of adverbs during the debate, and the pundits reward him by claiming he sounds smart for this

    “You watch him in the debates,” Steyn said. “It’s all ‘profoundly, dramatically deeply compelling. All the action is in the adverbs. One of my problems again with Newt is like he’s bursting with ideas that sound all as if they are coming from a self-help manual. If you remember back in his heyday, he had something called ‘The Triangle of American Progress.’ And that evolved into the “Four Pillars of American Civilization,’ which in turn expanded into the ‘Five Pillars of the Twenty-First Century.’”

  114. pitchaboy says:

    Answer: There are only two conservatives, Bachman and Santorum and between them they have 5% of the votes.

  115. Emerica says:

    Reminds me of Glenn Beck with his 10 rules and 15 principles or whatever he is always talking about.

  116. Tim says:


  117. Addisonst says:

    Steyn is the best. He’s awesome as a radio guest host too.

  118. Bitterlaw says:

    Spin that ad into a positive, Newt fans.

  119. Tim says:


  120. Emerica says:

    Glen Beck 9-12 Project: He explains the 12 values and the 9 principles he teaches his viewers.

    The nine principles are the first step, but in the next few minutes I’m going to lay out the second step and the third. Here’s the second step. The nine principles can’t stand by their own. Now, I have done — somebody called me and asked me, “Glenn, where did you get the nine principles.” They really came from me of just digesting the founding fathers. I went to religious text, I went to different faiths to look at what their theology taught, I read the words of the founding fathers, the 5,000 Year Leap, the Boy Scout handbook. I took all of this stuff and then I just sat with it for a while and I came up with the nine principles. But I also came up with values. Because if the point is We the People, if that’s how this whole system was designed and if the ship is going down and it’s not the ship, it’s the people, if you really, truly believe in the people, well, then power to the people works both ways. The people also are responsible for the downfall. The people, not just the Fed, not just those greedy Wall Streeters, not just the heads of banks, not just the people in congress but each of us, to varying degrees each of us. Believe me, I don’t know if you’ve been a long-term listener of this program but hopefully you’ve heard a change in my voice in the last six months and the last year and the last two years and anybody who’s been listening since I started doing talk radio in 2000. There’s a difference in my voice. Hopefully a little bit more responsible. I still am a stupid, you know, self-educated guy from time to time. I still say stupid things that I regret. I still say things in comedy that people take out of context, but I am not the guy who says the donkeys are bad and the elephants are good. I will say, “Here’s a good donkey, here’s a good elephant, here’s a bad elephant, here’s a bad donkey.”

  121. Tim says:

    True. But, on the other hand, Newt won’t get to 270 with 45%, either……

  122. jason says:

    86. Jason , you and Add are on the same side. Both want Obama to lose Badly.

    JT you and I are on the same side.

    the LTP and Chekote are not on our side. Don’t be fooled.

  123. pitchaboy says:

    Newt has two big achievements: balanced budget and welfare reform. After that, he was unfocussed and was a poor leader. I am still fairly confident that Romney will eventually pull through but I am afraid the process will be long drawn out. If Romney somehow manages to lose NH, the fat lady will start to clear her throat.

  124. Brandon says:

    It’s a web ad….let’s see if they put something like that on TV and can fit it into a good thirty second ad.

  125. jason says:

    Ron Paul can’t hurt Newt. Nobody cares what he says except Paulbots.

    Newt will self destruct by his own sword. Actually the material already exists, and it will come out.

  126. pitchaboy says:

    The only number that matters in head-to-head polls is Obama’s. He cannot break 45% unless he is up against Palin or Bachman. Newt is at 45%, because the indies are giving him a second look; it will be interesting to see where he will be after the next three weeks of battering he is sure to receive.

  127. Tim says:

    Sadly, true……

  128. Cory says:

    Ron Paul doesn’t speak in the ad. Newt Gingrich does. The material certainly does already exist, and a good chunk of it found its way into that ad.

    I don’t think that ad itself will stop Newt, but it’s a reminder of all the material Romney has to work with whenever he decides it’s time to stop Newt.

  129. Emerica says:

    Every time I see Newt I think of “the hammer” and that video of Max Bluementhal talking about his conversion to Hagee’s Christian Zionist movement while he was crying on the floor in pastor Hagee’s basement.

    Luckily the hammer is already in jail where he belongs.

  130. jason says:

    The LTP can’t stop spinning.

    His argument: I posted enough red herrings to convince half the people on the blog I am not a plant.

    Congratulations: 50% is not bad.

    But I am doing better over at KOS… only about 10% think I am a plant.

  131. jason says:

    The Canadian Kommie wrote a cogent post.

    Law of averages….

  132. pitchaboy says:

    The Fed is making a political move in supporting Europe as a crash there equals total disaster for Obama. I would appreciate some input on this from the financial types here. Off to the ER and thank you guys for some evening entertainment.

  133. jason says:

    ” Newt has two big achievements: balanced budget and welfare reform. ”

    Had, not has.

    By calling the Ryan plan “right wing social engineering” he lost any goodwill left from the past.

    Btw, how many conservatives talk about the “right wing”???

    Have you ever heard a liberal whine about the “left wing”?

  134. Emerica says:

    Mahna Mahna

    do do do-do-do

    Mahna Mahna


    Mahna Mahna

    do do do-do-do

  135. Tim says:

    Has anyone looked at the rule changes for delegate selection? I was just thinking that, will no candidate really breaking away from the pack, then what if several candidates emerged who would stay in all the way? With delegates being awarded proportionally, the possibility of a brokered Cnonvention might come about. And with it, a compromise candidate.

    Nah, won’t happen, I guess. Just a random thought…….

  136. Tim says:

    It would be interesting, though. Everyone needs to go and look at Rule 15. That’s what I was referring to……..

  137. Newtmentum says:

    Tim – if that happens doesn’t it throw the whole thing wide open for a Daniels, Christie, etc to get the nomiination?

  138. GF says:

    Ah, my new Congressman (Bilbray) is apparently not that warm on the idea of Newt;

    “I’m one of the few members of Congress to have seen what happens along the border when people from Georgia or somewhere else that don’t understand what’s going on with the immigration issue don’t take the time to go to Latin America and talk to people who are considering coming here illegally.

    They don’t understand that talking about amnesty to reduce illegal immigration is about as logical as somebody saying, ‘Let’s drill a hole in the bottom of a boat to let the water out.’ You’re going to cause a whole new wave of illegal immigration.”

  139. Tim says:

    Yes, it would. The GOP could actually emerge from the Convention with a very strong GE candidate.

  140. Chekote says:

    Go Newt!