Romney Leads Santorum by 3% in AZ

As promised, here are the results from Public Policy Polling’s latest poll for the Republican race in Arizona showing Mitt Romney still in the lead.

Mitt Romney 36%
Rick Santorum 33%
Newt Gingrich 16%
Ron Paul 9%

This poll was done February 17-19 among 412 likely primary voters. The poll also shows Jeff Flake as the front runner among Republicans for the nomination for the US Senate, hitting 56% while no one else even gets to double digits.

Posted by Dave at 12:50 pm
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261 Responses to “Romney Leads Santorum by 3% in AZ”

  1. Wobbles says:

    Romney needs a bigger win here for it to be a win.

  2. Tim V says:

    A win is a win. It’s winner take all.

  3. Robbie says:

    1.Romney needs a bigger win here for it to be a win.

    Comment by Wobbles — February 20, 2012 @ 12:52 pm

    You should get a job. It might help your outlook on life. Almost certainly, you wouldn’t be using fake screen names in a lame attempt to discredit others.

  4. jenny-former republican says:

    Romney leads Santorum by more than 3 points. This is a bogus poll!

  5. Phil says:

    Let’s just nominate Santorum. Ought to be very entertaining watching Obama in a second term riding a November mandate. Think of the fun watching Barry govern without having to worry about another election. He can go as far left as he wants to.

    Come on. This will be fun.

  6. Brandon says:

    And the train keeps rolling on:

    Santorum: 36%(nc)
    Romney: 26%(-2)
    Gingrich: 13%(nc)
    Paul: 11%(nc)

    10 point lead now.

  7. CPA says:

    Robamaney was once up 25 points here in AZ. All but gone. And Newt’s support goes 2-1 to Santorum if Newt keeps sinking. Shame there are only two races on the 28th, so no trifecta, but a daily double for Santorum will sink Mitt.

  8. CPA says:

    I forgot. Mittbot meltdown continues unabated.

  9. CPA says:

    VA is now a complete travesty. If Santorum win WA on the 3rd we could call that a trifecta. A sweep by Santorum of next week would make VA a laughingstock. Somebody in state gov should have ordered all candidates on the ballot and a review of the certification requirements and procedures.

    Anyway, Paul will win VA.

  10. CPA says:

    Santorum is going to beat Obama like the Cards beat the Cubs.

  11. Tim V says:

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” – Thomas Jefferson

  12. CPA says:

    Looks like Mitt will come in third in GA.

  13. TedO says:

    I live in AZ and voting for Mitt next Tuesday. I am Catholic and turned off by the religious tones of any political campaign I don’t see a Santorum surge of any kind here. Most everyone I know is voting for Romney. I don’t see a Santorum win here at all and don’t believe the poll. Just my opinion that AZ is not filled with suicidal Republicans.

  14. phoenixrisen says:

    not looking good for Romney at all.

  15. Phil says:

    No meltdown.

    I’m serious. Even the most left leaning presidents had to moderate for electoral reasons. Now we have Obama – the most leftist president in our history with a landslide mandate over Santorum and no election after this term. He isn’t up for reelection again so he can go Hugo Chavez all he wants.

    Just sit back and watch this leftist take us as far left as he can.

    It’ll be entertaining as hell.

  16. CPA says:

    You must mean the Santorum landslide over Obama.

  17. Bitterlaw says:

    CPA – that would be an epic landslide. After Santorum loses women 80-20, he will win men 90-10. Makes sense to me.

  18. Wobbles says:

    #4- you are not the blog police. Romney needs to win by a bigger margin in AZ, if he really wants a big win. Otherwise, he has no momentum.

  19. CPA says:

    Bitter: you may be on to something but I don’t believe we will see a gende monolith just yet. Maybe a catholic one or an evangelical one, but not a gender one.

    Remember the democrats are rum, romanism, and rebellion.

  20. Wobbles says:

    You cannot question the record of PPP, even if they lean Democrat, Ted O.

  21. Robbie says:

    7.And the train keeps rolling on:

    Santorum: 36%(nc)
    Romney: 26%(-2)
    Gingrich: 13%(nc)
    Paul: 11%(nc)

    10 point lead now.

    Comment by Brandon — February 20, 2012 @ 1:01 pm

    Is this Gallup’s national tracking poll?

  22. Wobbles says:

    Also, I have been here since 2003. You are a blog troll, Robbie.

  23. Tim says:

    He is not the most leftist President. Nothing near it. I only wish he were further to the left.

  24. Bitterlaw says:

    CPA – it would be ironic that after Santorum blows up the GOP, the revitalized Whig Party will rise from the ashes.

  25. Robbie says:

    23.Also, I have been here since 2003. You are a blog troll, Robbie.

    Comment by Wobbles — February 20, 2012 @ 1:28 pm

    If it makes you feel better to believe that, great.

  26. Wobbles says:


  27. jenny-former republican says:

    It’s amazing that the gop is doing so well against Obama, in spite of the debate over contraceptives and Romney’s lackluster campaign.

  28. Wobbles says:

    Robbie whines when others attack him, and then he does the same to other posters here.

  29. Tim says:

    That would continue, if they would stick to the Economy, and nominate the right candidate. They would do well to remember that.

  30. Wobbles says:

    Santorum managed to really hurt the Republicans this weeken with his contraceptives and prenatal statements, #30.

  31. Tim says:

    I wonder if the polling in the coming days might show that it also hurt him?

  32. CPA says:

    Bitter: the problem with the GOP is that many (especially in the establishment) are either secular humanists or from old line protestant denomination that have phony liberal theology. And they hate the faith based members in fly over country.

    The soft socialism at the top of the GOP doesn’t like the social conservatives at all but their time is done. Gone with the Robamaney campaign. it is time to choose Obama or choose to save America.

  33. Wobbles says:

    #31, it should have been about gasoline prices. Did you know that at one station in Los Angeles,they are charging $4.93?

  34. Robbie says:

    29.Robbie whines when others attack him, and then he does the same to other posters here.

    Comment by Wobbles — February 20, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

    I only reply when attacked, which is regularly. I don’t take phoney screen names like you and then talk about having been here since 2003. I’m sure you’ve been around since 2003, but you haven’t used that screen name until the last few days.

    As I said, if it makes you feel better to think I’m a troll, fine. I’m not. I just offering an opinion that isn’t part of the group think/echo chamber that Romney is the only hope.

  35. Bitterlaw says:

    CPA – I completely disagree. I am not joking when I say that I will vote for a lesbian atheist with a partner who will keep my taxes low, my children safem and terrorists dead. I do not look to the government to impose one view of faith and morals on the nation. I leave religion to the houses of worship. If you want a theocracy, I’m not part of your movement.

  36. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder which religion will be the source of CPA’s perfect government.

  37. CPA says:

    But Obama is imposing his phony faith on everyone. The marxist atheist faith is being enshrined as the established faith of the Obama regime.

  38. Bitterlaw says:

    I am not even going to pretend that “marxist” has any meaning here anymore. It’s like RINO. It is shorthand without definition and contrary to actual definitions.

  39. EML says:

    Guys, what should i have for dinner tonight? My first choice is regular old cabbage. My second choice is poisoned bok choy that will kill me if I eat it. Sure bok choy is just cabbage itself, but it’s hip, it’s trendy, it’s what all the cool kids are eating, and the name bok choy sounds way cooler than cabbage. So do I go with the cabbage? Or with the poisoned bok choy? Or do I go with the bok choy and then blame my death on the cabbage for not being cool enough?

  40. Bitterlaw says:

    EML – I’m not the person to ask. I didn’t even know cabernet was a red wine until last year. Why? because I don’t drink wine.

  41. Brandon says:

    EML your metaphor is way too deep for me.

  42. bio mom says:

    Don’t really care about “national” numbers since we do not nominate that way. Stop buying in to the MSM need for a narrative. Those 5 day rolling average numbers remind me of Obama’s gallup numbers that often go up in 2 point increments and then come down again. They reflect the muddle, even in the R party, listening to the background noise.

  43. EML says:

    It’s more of an analogy than a metaphor. 🙂

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    Brandon – it is obvious that EML is saying that our foreign policy towards North Korea should utilize food subsidies as bargaining chip. How did you miss that?

  45. DW - GOP Establishment says:

    I find it laughable that desperate Obama/Santorum supporters come here and say supporters of Romney are melting down or unhinged, etc. I am completely calm and completely confident that Romney gets the nomination.

  46. SoHope says:

    I thought it was a simile

  47. DW - GOP Establishment says:

    Of course its easy to be calm when you know what I know…sitting here in the GOP Establishment’s smoke-filled room. Cough. This is where all these things are decided. There is nothing you can do about it. The only votes that matter are the ones inside these four walls. Cough.

  48. Cory says:

    You know, it’s entirely possible that Romney wins both MI and AZ. What would the ‘storyline’ be, coming out of that?

  49. Brandon says:


  50. DW - GOP Establishment says:

    Uh oh. Romney stepped in it this time…HUGE gaffe…bar the door, here comes the trolls…



    –oops check that, it is supposed to read SANTORUM CAMP…trolls can go back into hiding.

  51. Bitterlaw says:

    Cory – CPA, Robbie and Jul would run screaming into the night.

  52. Enjolras says:


    I’m expecting Mitt to win both MI and AZ

  53. Bitterlaw says:

    I stand corrected. CPA and Robbie will run alone.

  54. DW - GOP Establishment says:

    Interesting development at RCP. It seems that now they are including WeAskAmerica polls in their presentation of latest polls:

    Now that leaves ARG as the only major pollster that they ignore.

  55. karl r rove says:

    Romney has one week left to close the gap in Mich. and widen the gap in AZ. If he has not already.


  56. DW says:

    OK, I guess I have had enough fun with the handle “DW – GOP Establishment”, so I will now go back to regular DW.

  57. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – sometimes I think about dropping Bitterlaw and just going with my real initials or maybe “Bitter.” However, I am who I am.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    However, if I ever married lisab, I would go with “lisabitterlaw.”

  59. DW says:

    It does seem sort of troll free at the moment. I guess the Santorum Camp gaffe mentioned above leaves them without much to say. Had that been the Romney Camp we would hear nothing but squawking about what a huge unforced error this is for weeks to come.

  60. Annie says:

    Just read the Drudge Report’s headline story…How on earth can people (such as CPA) be supporting this clown Santorum? Not only is he so out there with his “Christian values,” he also was considered one of the top three senators who used their positions for personal gain – Just recently he was called out for being too closely aligned & coordinating with the head of his PAC, which is against the law…and few have said anything. I know the Democrats are chomping at the bit to have Santorum as the GOP nominee, because he would be the gift that keeps on giving – there would be an endless amount of screwy ideas, questionable votes, and gaffes galore to use against him. The Dems are sure to have shenanigans with the open voting in Michigan, too.

  61. Wobbles says:

    Comment by Wobbles — February 20, 2012 @ 1:34 pm

    I only reply when attacked, which is regularly.

    That is your deal and keep it your deal.

  62. Wobbles says:

    Add that to Day 3 of errors for Santorum.

  63. Annie says:

    Mr. Rove, Romney did better than that in Florida over Gingrich…only Florida didn’t have Democrats voting in the Republican primary like Michigan, and Santorum’s flaws are only now getting any scrutiny. Also, I guess there are a lot of crackpot evangelicals who think Santorum’s far-out religious fervor is just dandy, and don’t care about the prospect of another Obama term.

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Just think of all the things Santorum can say in a General Election. Right now, he is probably trying to be on his best behavior to appear acceptable in the primaries.

  65. DW says:

    Remember the dems gave Huckabee the moniker “Glass-jaw” back in 2008. Santorum makes Huck’s jaw look like Granite by comparison.

  66. Annie says:

    The Democrats will also use the fact that Santorum has absolutely no executive experience and has been out of the Senate for six years. They will rightly make the point that Santorum has no fiscal management experience. Face it, all Santorum has over Obama is this perceived “holiness” – Obama’s war machine will chew him up, and Santorum will never know what hit him. Santorum will just whine about “mud slinging.”

  67. Wobbles says:

    Paul launches at Santorum blasting him for raising the debt ceiling 5 times and supporting the Bridge to Nowher.

  68. DW says:

    Here is another one…

    SANTORUM: Women should only ride women’s frame bicycles. Seeing a woman on a mens frame bike ’causes confusion.’

    –of course its made up, but for a second there it had a ring of truth to it. Don’t you want to be dodging these sorts of things all summer and fall?

  69. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Obama PACs empty accounts and send all funds to Santorum PACs.

  70. michael corleone says:

    Santorum hits Obama. MSN gets mad and smears Santorum.

    So lets nominate Romney, because he won’t hit Obama.

  71. Annie says:

    Frankly, I hope the money Gingrich’s sugar daddy in Las Vegas gives him will allow him to siphon votes off of Santorum in Michigan. (Then again, Gingrich still hates Romney, because Newt’s nutsy.)

  72. Wobbles says:

    Ron Paul calls Santorum:


  73. Annie says:

    michael corleone – Romney has spent most of his campaign “hitting” Obama. Wake up and pay attention. Gingrich, Obama, and Santorum have been hitting Romney. Santorum shoots his mouth off with distracting cr*p (like the “theology” behind Obama) and calls it tough talk. It’s Looney Tunes talk – and Santorum comes across like a sanctimonious Daffy Duck.

  74. Annie says:

    Newt is Porky Pig.

  75. Annie says:

    Ron Paul is Marvin the Martian.

  76. Annie says:

    Or is Paul – Yosemite Sam?

  77. Annie says:

    Romney might be Sylvester the Cat…boxing with the kangaroo.

  78. Bitterlaw says:

    MC is the typical Romney-hater. Romney is too hard on his rivals/Romney is too weak against Obama.

  79. Annie says:

    Obama is Pepe le Pew – a stinker trying to make us love him, and we all just want to run away from him…except for the equally smelly Democrats.

  80. Phil says:


    You’re wasting your breath. Some on this site are determined to have a Sharon Angle disaster, Part II.

    Don’t try and reason with them. It’s hopeless.

  81. Scott says:

    As much as I disagree with Santorum’s zealousness on religious matters,nothing is more disgusting than Obama’s support for partial birth abortion and killing a baby after it is born alive from a botched abortion!

  82. Annie says:

    Scott, if Santorum is the GOP nominee…we will have an unabated Obama, free of worry about anymore elections, making more horrendous policies, appointing more ultra-liberal judges, further decimating our national defenses – and aided by an increased number of Democrats in the Senate and House (perhaps even a Pelosi as Speaker scenario)…because Santorum will drag down all the GOP candidates on the ticket with him.

  83. Annie says:

    Phil, worse than Angle, I think they are willing to have another Christine “I am not a witch” McDonnell situation at a presidential election level.

  84. DW says:

    82…I am trying to remember Obama’s exact words…that a baby should be killed if it survived an abortion attempt…something like “it would frustrate the original decision to abort”

    So if a guy goes in for a leg amputation, and in surgery they discover the cause of the problem and realize that the leg can easily be saved, the surgeon pipes up and says, NO, we must amputate–lest we frustrate the original decision.

  85. DW says:

    Annie, I am not one to go too far over the top, but a re-elected Obama, along with a Dem led house and senate, feeling he has been sent a mandate would likely call for a constitutional committee that would re-write it totally. He would have 24/7 cheering by the media, and the first thing to go would be the 2nd amendment.

  86. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – and how would he get the 37 States needed to approve the repeal of the 2d Amendment? Are you headed off into “Chief Justice in chains” territory?

  87. Phil says:

    Bitter, they’d do it through the judicial. Another Obama term and there’s a more than even chance that Obama gets to flip the Supreme Court. It wouldn’t be all in one decision either, but rather a series of 5-4 rulings.

  88. Annie says:

    I do not think he could get a repeal of one of the Bill of Rights, but he could legislate enough rules and regulations to weaken their original intent considerably. Let’s face it, Obama still wants to fundamentally transform America. The truest thing out of Obama’s mouth was when he told “Joe the Plummer” that he wanted to “spread the wealth around.” That statement simply got lost in all the hoopla over Hope & Change.

  89. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m just curious. I own 0 guns. Does anybody want to say how many they own?

  90. Phil says:

    What Annie just said. He wants to transform America. I find it funny when some on this site poo poo that fact.

  91. Annie says:

    CPA – re #10 post – Virginia is not a travesty in not letting Gingrich or Santorum be on the ballot…those men and their campaigns knew the rules just like Romney’s and Paul’s. If anything, it glaringly points out the flaws in planning and organization with the Santorum and Gingrich campaigns – the disorganization and lack of infrastructure. Another reason those two would be bad choices for the nomination.

  92. Phil says:

    Two, er, I mean zero.

  93. Scott says:

    Ras’ Congressional Generic Ballot has it GOP +1,down from +2 last week.

  94. DW says:

    Bitter…lol. Well, I am not at all certain he would limit himself to work within the constraints of getting 37 states…after all where does that rule come from? The constitution? Ha! That’s what he is getting rid of. But lets see…lets say he does decide that 37 states are needed. He would of course package the new constitution to have things that would appeal to the specific states on the bubble, so that they would reluctantly go for it, taking the loss of the 2nd amendment. But here are the states in descending order of ease with which they would toss out the current constitution and replace it:


    Some of these states could give him trouble, but its not an impossible path. But the much greater liklihood would be to simply work around all his problems by executive order. The current constitution could be deemed too conflicted to be used as a guide to creating the new constitution. All he needs is one more Sotomayor on the SCOTUS and he’s got it.

  95. Phil says:

    Give Santorum enough exposure as a face of the Republican Party and the GOP will be down on the the generic.

  96. DW says:

    Bitter, I have enough guns to get the job done.

  97. DrJay says:

    Embattled Congressman’s Surrogate Cites Satan in Re-election Bid

    “Between 40 and 60 ministers on Monday joined [Jesse] Jackson to endorse his re-election campaign. They’re prepared for a fight, and Pastor Willie James Campbell even denounced the “satanic forces” that want to defeat their man.”

    Speaking of mixing religion and politics…

  98. Bitterlaw says:

    Well, HHR is now DailyKOS in the conservative political fantasy world. I promised to never leave but I am done for the next few hours. Watch out for the black helicopters.

  99. Annie says:

    2 (one rifle)

  100. DW says:

    Bitter, thanks. I actually had a distant relative who was all concerned about the black helicopters he spotted in Arizona. But the comments about Obama and the constitution are not that extreme…just last week there was a news story how lefists were pointing out how archaic the consitution is, and that most “civilized” countries have banned guns, etc.

  101. Jerry muthertruckin' Cruncher says:

    What percent will Rosanne Barr get for the Green Party?

  102. Annie says:

    Australia banned guns for ordinary citizens, and the crime rate went way up.

  103. Annie says:

    Time for me to sign off, as well –

  104. jason says:

    ” You know, it’s entirely possible that Romney wins both MI and AZ.”

    CPA and the other deadenders would lose all interest in the election.

    After all the objective is not to beat Obama, it’s to defeat so called RINOS like Romney.

  105. jason says:

    Drudge is beginning to paint Santorum as a nutcase….

  106. jenny-former republican says:

    I will vote for Roseanne Barr if Santorum is the nominee…

  107. marc says:

    Paint or is a nutcase.

  108. GF says:

    Good afternoon, all; just stopping in to see the polls and say hello.

    To answer the prevailing question, I topped out at 12 (8 rifles, 3 pistols and a shotgun). I’ve downsized and am in the process of selling off the last few. I’ll probably end up keeping 2 rifles (one British infantry .303 I converted into a hinting rifle plus a Civil War .58 Enfield) and MAYBE a pistol (.44 Mag Ruger revolver; good field sidearm). That’s IF the wife lets me keep that many.

  109. Tim says:

    I own quite a few.

  110. Tim says:

    And, that stuff about the Constitution is way, way out there, to me…..

  111. Tim says:


  112. jason says:

    Mitt at 61% on Intrade for Michigan, 71% on nomination. Santorum down to 42% in Michigan, 17% nomination.

  113. Corey says:

    If Romney wins Michigan, I will root for the Detroit Tigers to take the AL Central.

  114. Corey says:


    I am listening to Hawks vs. Bulls. Sounds like a drubbing thus far.

    Bye for now.

  115. jason says:

    ” Anyway, Paul will win VA.”

    CPA, since you are so brilliant, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is. 10-1 odds, a real steal.

    Buy Ron Paul on Intrade, make a fortune, you will need it with all the tax increases Obama will implement if Santorum is the nominee.

    Ron Paul to win the 2012 Virginia Primary
    Last prediction was: $0.93 / share
    Today’s Change: -$0.06 (-7%)

  116. Annie says:

    Just saw this headline – and is it a doozey if true:

    “Chris Hayes Digs Up 2008 Santorum Speech Stating Protestants Are ‘Gone From The World Of Christianity’”

    The man the evangelicals are all so devoted to?

    I’m in the process of reading more about this speech of Santorum’s –

  117. lisab says:

    i own zero guns

    but my husband’s family has a small arsenal … they live on a farm and have a hundred years of guns from several generations — some may or may not work. i do not know what kind they are, but of the rifle/shotgun variety. i do know that at least some work because the family has gone deer hunting.

    i don’t ask … they don’t tell me.

  118. lisab says:

    i cannot believe romney actually said obama is ruling with ISLAMIC plicies

    what a huge gaffe

  119. DW says:

    120…I know! I made that point in #51 above.

  120. lisab says:

    how could romney have been so stupid?!!!

  121. DW says:

    122…yeah, its just one gaffe after another. I am stunned that the trolls haven’t been here all day throwing it in our faces.

  122. jenny-former republican says:

    Santorum made the gaffe not Romney!

  123. Annie says:

    lisab – The gaffe belonged to a Santorum staffer, not Romney – the HHR poster got it wrong. I know what you mean about the inherited guns – I have quite a few of those dating back to the mid-19th century. Most don’t work anymore, or you can’t find ammo for them. My ancesters were pioneers (fed the Indians during the winters) and farm folk, so everyone had/has guns. Just a way of life – everyone was brought up to hunt. My parents have photos of me as a toddler dressed in a bright orange jacket, so the hunters wouldn’t mistake me for some varmint.

  124. DW says:

    jenny and annie, you need to learn to anticipate sarcasm when you read it…go back and read all of #51. The fact that it was Santorum is why its been troll free this afternoon.

  125. lisab says:

    what a wimp romney is … i cannot believe romney has not called obama out on his islamic policies

    we need someone who will confront his opponent more!

  126. Tim V says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 20, 2012 at 3:33 pm
    However, if I ever married lisab, I would go with “lisabitterlaw.”

    or you could be “bittereunuch”

  127. DW says:

    Why can’t Romney take a position that would make his ratings with women soar? Why can’t he be opposed to contraception?

  128. Tim V says:

    NY Knicks’ Jeremy Lin

    I just heard about Linsanity today on the radio in my car. I have never seen the man play or heard of him until today.

  129. Robbie says:

    114.Mitt at 61% on Intrade for Michigan, 71% on nomination. Santorum down to 42% in Michigan, 17% nomination.

    Comment by jason — February 20, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

    What were the Intrade numbers on a Romney win three days before SC?

  130. DW says:

    Robbie, where were you to bemoan the woeful Santorum gaffe regarding Obama’s islamic policies?

    I mean I want to believe you are not a troll, but if that had been Romney you would have been here saying how its all over for Romney…one gaffe too many.

  131. Tim V says:

    All 30 N.B.A. teams passed on point guard Jeremy Lin in the draft, some of them twice, and now he’s leading the Knicks

  132. DW says:

    134…does he kneel on one knee and pray after each win?

  133. Annie says:

    Gingrich looks like the pig that he is…Santorum looks like the prig that he is.

  134. Wobbles says:

    It will be interested to see if Santorum continues to drop in future polling in Arizona and Michigan given the large number of gaffes over the past several days.

  135. lisab says:

    how can obama’s policies be islamic

    when health insurance in islam is strictly forbidden

    in fact, muslims are exempt from obamacare for that very reason

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    Why doesn’t Santorum completely lockin the women’s vote by saying this:

    “Why do fat chicks breed like rabbits but hotties don’t?”

  137. lisab says:

    gingrich says romney should drop out if he loses michigan

    of course … coming in fourth in michigan is just peachy

  138. lisab says:

    i wonder if “feminine products” will be moved behind the counter under santorum

  139. Brandon says:

    Bitter, I was able to ward off the black helicopters while you were gone.

  140. lisab says:

    “Chink in the Armor: Jeremy Lin’s 9 Turnovers Cost Knicks in Streak-Snapping Loss to Hornets”

    do i even need to point out what happened?

  141. lisab says:

    santorum can make me go barefoot when he can pry the boots off my cold dead tootsies

  142. Tim V says:

    DW says:
    February 20, 2012 at 5:54 pm
    134…does he kneel on one knee and pray after each win?

    not yet, but the potential is there.Lin’s combination of success in the N.B.A. and strong Christian faith — he has spoken in the past of becoming a pastor someday — has fired the imagination of many Asian-American Christians. There are some early signs that he may also be catching the attention of Christians in China, who continue to face varying levels of persecution.

  143. Robbie says:

    133.Robbie, where were you to bemoan the woeful Santorum gaffe regarding Obama’s islamic policies?

    I mean I want to believe you are not a troll, but if that had been Romney you would have been here saying how its all over for Romney…one gaffe too many.

    Comment by DW — February 20, 2012 @ 5:52 pm

    You make the mistake of assuming I’m for Santorum. As I’ve written many times, I’m not. In fact, I think he’s a train wreck of a candidate who would drag down the entire party in November. Unfortunately for many on this site, I’m not sold on Romney either, although I doubt he would nuke the entire party in the Fall.

  144. Wobbles says:

    If Romney loses both MI and AZ, we need to quickly press for a brokered convention. Surely, there is one good candidate out there. Otherwise, if we do not get a brokered convention, many of us will go 3rd party.

  145. Tim says:

    Down here, Newt has been dropping hints that he has to win Georgia on Super Tuesday, or he’s done.

    He might not win it, either. He has been losing some County straw polls.

    Santorum drew 3,300 at a church in Forsyth Co., Sunday night.

  146. Wobbles says:

    If Newt drops out, he and Michelle Obama should go on a vacation together and devour every food item in site.

  147. Tim V says:

    Don’t hate on me, I’m just the messenger.

    Why Mitt Romney’s Presidential Prospects May Not Be Salvageable

    Personally, I think Mitt can pull off both a nomination win and a general election win but there is no argueing that his campaign is struggling a bit. I thought his Florida win would lock up the nomintion.

  148. Tim says:

    The Hawks lost Horford to injury for the season. That finished them, for this year.

  149. mnw says:

    The problem with running against “Obama’s sky-high gas prices!” is, the prices have soared because of perceived POLITICAL risk (Iran/Israel)…”perfesser jason” notwithstanding.

    That political risk premium could disappear in a heartbeat– & gas prices would fall. Political risk is an artificial construct– there is plenty of oil around right now, due to tepid economic growth & resulting tepid demand for oil. Plus, fracking helps.

  150. Tim V says:

    where is bunu ? was he banned ?

  151. mnw says:

    nah. bunu was too ashamed to post any more.

  152. Tim V says:

    Chink in the Armor

    isn’t that racsist ?

  153. Tim V says:

    “Chink in the Armor: Jeremy Lin’s 9 Turnovers Cost Knicks in Streak-Snapping Loss to Hornets”

    do i even need to point out what happened?

    satan trying to nip the next tebow in the bud ?

  154. Robbie says:

    I think Santorum peaked too soon mostly because he can’t keep his mouth shut. By the end of the week, I would look for Romney to have gained nationally and pulled ahead in Michigan.

  155. mnw says:

    Santo is taking a lot of hits over the 3-day weekend.

    For better or worse, he comes off as incredibly sincere! He practically BLEEDS sincerity. I think his support is coming from those who recognize an authentic voice for their values.

    Alas, as I’ve often stated, he’s too redhot for the GE.

    But he makes a hell of a strong contest to weathervane Romney.

  156. SUSYQUE says:

    #16…Phil you said, “It’ll be entertaining as hell.” Not a good simile! I don’t understand your thinking. You must be a Dem. because Reps. don’t
    find it “entertaining” at all!

  157. Bitterlaw says:

    Lin is not Tebow. Lin can actually play his position.

  158. jan says:

    Values? Its now a value to oppose prenatal care?

  159. jan says:

    Santorum is sincere about the nonsense he says and thats why he would lose huge.

  160. SUSYQUE says:

    Trump is going after Sentorum on behalf of Mitt.
    Michigan votes one week from Tuesday, and Trump is scheduled to take to the state’s airwaves daily this week to speak on Romney’s behalf.

    The perception of electability was a major factor in deciding to endorse Romney, Trump said, and Republicans would be foolish to put forward Santorum as their nominee because “he basically has no chance” of winning.

    “Otherwise, what’s the whole purpose, what’s the purpose of working, working, working, going out voting, doing your thing if the person has no chance of getting elected,” Trump said on WSGW Radio of Saginaw, Michigan.

    Trump considered a presidential bid himself, then nixed the idea, and in January tossed his endorsement to Mitt Romney. If Santorum were to win the Republican nomination, Trump suggested Monday that he would consider a run.

    “If he doesn’t, and I hope that doesn’t happen,” Trump said of a Romney loss, “I would say there’s a good possibility that I would do something, yes.”

  161. SUSYQUE says:

    Heads Up!

    CNN LIVE: Tune in Wednesday at 8 p.m. ET for the final presidential debate before Super Tuesday: The CNN Arizona Republican Debate. Only on CNN. Follow it on Twitter at #CNNDebate.

    – Follow the Ticker on Twitter: @PoliticalTicker

  162. Mittens will not be nominated. Remember you heard it here first.

    “Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

  163. Tim V says:

    I’m tired of the debates, especially if CNN is going to host them. Why not have the DNC ask the questions ?

    We already know enough about all the candidates to make a decision.

  164. Tim V says:

    160- perhaps phil was being sarcastic ?

  165. GF says:

    “Chink in the Armor”

    This reminds me of the Wshington, D.C., budget guy who told the council that they could not be “niggardly” in fiscal matters. He was then fired, but fought it in court, and produced as exculpatory evidence a Webster’s dictionary bookmarked to the appropriate page. Oddly enough, I believe that he was black himself.

    Other classics, with offending words in quotes;

    “Nip” and tuck
    “Spic” and Span
    “Flip” Flop
    Slippery “Slope”

    Honourable Mention: White on “Rice”

  166. Wobbles says:

    I think this debate was canceled last week, or was it another one? This is the one where one poster went ballistic that Romney was backing out – and failed to mention that Santorum also backed out.

  167. mnw says:

    Boy, the Romney posse here is SOOO Kool Aid!

    He is SUCH a timid, nothing-ball candidate! The FIRST TWO of his lousy “59-point program” start out, “I will maintain…”


    Is the WSJ a religious nutball, leftwing Romney-hater TOO? Or, is this guy in urgent need of a n*t transplant, folks?

  168. mnw says:

    “Oil Passes $105”

    “JP Morgan Lifts Brent Crude Target to $118”

    “Greek Bailout May Just Buy More Time” (WSJ)

    “Gold Gains”

  169. Bitterlaw says:

    Can somebody research mnw’s file? Right now, he says Romney is too timid. I bet I could find posts where he claims Romney attacks his rivals too fiercely. I’m too bored to search.

  170. lisab says:


    right … he should have called obama a muslim today

    that’s the kind f guy we need

  171. lisab says:

    Adorable Newt Gingrich is still pandering to teabaggers like he thinks he can win. Today’s nugget: “You cannot put a gun rack in a Volt”

  172. mnw says:


    You wouldn’t find any, & I kind of resent your comment, btw. I always treat you with professional respect, at least.


    The fact that Santo is AWFUL doesn’t make Romney GOOD.

  173. lisab says:

    David Brooks

    Jeremy Lin is anomalous in all sorts of ways. He’s a Harvard grad in the NBA, an Asian-American man in professional sports. But we shouldn’t neglect the biggest anomaly. He’s a religious person in professional sports.

  174. lisab says:

    i am agreeing with you

    romney is way too timid

    why he has only taken down five alternative candidates in row

    any tough guy should have taken down 8 or 9 by now

  175. Annie says:

    Though I am not a huge fan of Chris Hayes or MSNBC (not a fan of any sort), Hayes did scrounge up an interesting speech given by Santorum in 2008, in which he states that Protestantism “is gone from the world of Christianity” as he sees it. The evangelical voters out there in the Republican primaries might be interested. Santorum is an incredibly flawed candidate in an election year when an experienced fiscal conservative and executive is called for in order to defeat a sitting president.

  176. mnw says:

    Yeah… he boldly destroys everyone… except zero.

  177. lisab says:

    Media: Income inequality is soaring and hitting new highs. Facts: Inequality peaked in 2000 and has been decreasing ever since, with the greatest decrease when Bush was president and the GOP controlled both houses

  178. lisab says:

    “Yeah… he boldly destroys everyone… except zero.”

    like i said … he shuld have called him a muslim today

    what was romney thinking?!!!!

  179. mnw says:

    PPP sez W’s approval rating is now one point higher than zero’s.

  180. mnw says:

    Romney enabler

  181. lisab says:

    Americans say Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton will be judged the best presidents of the past four decades, the Gallup Poll reports.

    At least six in 10 respondents say Reagan and Clinton will be considered an above average or outstanding president, Gallup said.

    “Three years into Barack Obama’s presidency,” Gallup said. “Americans are divided in their views of how he will be regarded, with 38% guessing he will be remembered as above average or outstanding and 35% as below average or poor.”


    not to be picky, but clinton was impeached

    just sayin

  182. mnw says:


    I’ve just read VDH’s “The End of Sparta.”

    Are you interested in military history of that era?

    It’s pretty good.

  183. lisab says:

    UK: Hey everyone, we are starting to privatize our Health Care system to make it more like the USA, this government thing doesn’t seem to work very well

  184. HHR Secret Police says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 20, 2012 at 8:14 pm
    Can somebody research mnw’s file?

    I’ll get right on it. We can’t have these dissenters on HHR. This is a Romney campaign site. mnw, get with the program or face the consequences.

  185. Annie says:

    Tim V – Funny 2nd City spoof of Santorum – Sad that it’s so true.

  186. sparta got involved in too many wars

  187. mnw says:

    Sparta was a cross between the CSA & the SS.

  188. “Just like we have certifying organizations that accredit a college, we’ll have certifying organizations that will accredit conservative professors. If you are to be eligible for federal funds, you’ll have to provide an equal number of conservative professors as liberal professors.” romney

  189. Annie says:

    188 – If this is a “Romney campaign site,” it’s because the majority of people here at HHR are intelligent enough to realize that the flaws of Gingrich and Santorum far outweigh the flaws of Romney. That in a year that is not an open seat for POTUS, you have to run a candidate that has a resume that can compete with the chief executive’s, particularly on the economy. The only candidate in the GOP field here and now that has executive experience, both in government and in the private sector is Romney. Moreover, Romney is the only candidate with the organization and financing to compete against a sitting president.

  190. Bitterlaw says:

    101.Yes… certain irony there, because I did. And I detested him even as I was voting for him. I still think that voting against Zero was the right thing to do.

    Perhaps that is the reason for my political bloodlust. That I felt compelled to vote FOR a man I detested.

    Comment by mnw — April 21, 2010 @ 7:49 pm

    mnw – see? You can vote against Obama again by voting for a man you detest.

    As for this being a Romney-site, I just call it as I see it. The classic example was the outcry that Romney was a loser and a p**ssy for backing out of the debate. Suddenly, all was silent except for the crickets chirping when Santorum did the same thing. Romney-haters are like Lucy and the football. No matter what Romney does or says, Lucy is never going to let him kick that football.

  191. “Sparta was a cross between the CSA & the SS.”

    Sparta was the only greek city to give citizen women significant rights

    and the only one not run by homosexual pedophiles

  192. Annie says:

    192 – As a person working at UC Davis…I wholeheartedly agree!!!

  193. ” As a person working at UC Davis…I wholeheartedly agree!!!”

    yes, we need a federal agency to make sure the appropriate number of conservative professors are hired by each school

  194. SoHope says:

    Found this in the Twitterverse…haha

    “English-only” Santorum attends Latin Mass? Boooo! Pray in American!!!

  195. Annie says:

    195 – lisab…the Spartans were well-known for their homosexual relationships, and liking to fight next to their lovers in battle. They just were more warlike than the pedophiles in Athens.

  196. mnw says:

    No, Thebes (Boetia) gave women (& slaves) political rights. Sparta was to murder what Champagne province is to wine.

  197. SoHope says:

    And sparta had a huge bottomless pit in the middle of their city…


  198. GF says:


  199. Tim V says:

    satan>academia>the protestant church>the culture>politicians

    good sermon Rick, too bad it will turn off many voters

  200. In no other Greek city-state did women enjoy the same freedom and status as Spartan women.

    Only in Sparta did women possess economic power and influence.

    Only in Sparta did girls engage in sports and receive public education – in other city-states, most women were completely illiterate.

    Scandalized observers from other Greek cities commented that not only did Spartan women have opinions, they were not afraid to voice them in public; and worse still – their husbands listened to them!

  201. Annie says:

    lisab – I’d prefer that politics could just be left out of the whole equation of who gets hired or fired. Why should it matter what the politics of a chemistry professor or a history professor are? Or any professor? Universities should be, in an ideal world without the agenda of brainwashing the youth of America with liberalism, a place where all points of view can be openly discussed and respected, and people can make up their own minds based on facts and points discussed. Alas, this take over of universities began well over 40 years ago, and is now very entrenched. However, I have found that people ultimately end-up having similar political philosophy as their parents, regardless of the politics of youth. I guess paying taxes and raising children might convince many former rebels to embrace their parents’ conservatism by middle age. Remember the old saying: If you aren’t liberal as a youth, you have no heart. If you aren’t conservative in middle age, you have no brain. I guess I am heartless and very brainy.

  202. Tim V says:

    Annie says:
    February 20, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    188 – If this is a “Romney campaign site,” it’s because the majority of people here at HHR are intelligent enough

    Annie, listen to Rick’s sermon. Satan is using your pride (we are intelligent enough) to decieve you. Repent before it’s too late.

  203. GF says:

    Lisa, I am guessing that since Spartan women were expected to raise the finest warriors to walk the Earth, they were also expected to be tough and intelligent so as to effect that goal.

  204. When girls reached sexual maturity, they were not rushed – as were their sisters throughout the rest of the ancient world – into marriage, thereby suffering physical injury from premature sex and frequently dying early in childbed. On the contrary, the Spartan laws explicitly advocated marrying girls only after they had reached an age to “enjoy sex”. The reasoning was simple: for young girls not yet psychologically ready for sexual intimacy, sex was an “act of violence”. It is highly significant that Spartans condemned violence inside marriage, and understood that sex with a child is abusive. Nor were Spartan girls married to much older men, as was usual in other Greek cities. It is estimated that most Spartan wives were only four to five years younger than their husbands. The fact that much of Sparta’s concern was for the production of healthy children does not detract from the fact that the laws protected girls from early marriage; all Greek marriages were for procreation, but in other cities men were willing to accept the inevitable higher death rates and other physical consequences of forcing sex on young girls for the sake of indulging their own preference for sex with children.

  205. SoHope says:

    From Romney’s Book:

    “We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.”

  206. Annie says:

    SoHope – That quote is from a 2008 speech by Rick Santorum at Ave Maria University in Florida.

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim V – is there any joy in your life? Can there be any when you are living in a world dominated by Satan?

  208. “That quote is from a 2008 speech by Rick Santorum at Ave Maria University in Florida.”

    romney should have said it

  209. SoHope says:

    Really??? I thought it was Romney that had a hard time connecting with mainline protestants. I guess all you have to do is insult them and they love you.

  210. Annie says:

    Did Santorum put chastity belts on his unwed daughters? Or just mental chastity belts? Just wondering…

  211. SoHope says:

    Bitter…couldn’t be…I thought Tim V was from the south?

  212. ” I guess all you have to do is insult them and they love you.”


  213. Annie says:

    SoHope – Just felt the need to clarify, for those who may not know you are being facetious, and might really think Romney was the sanctimonious dope.

  214. SoHope says:

    I appreciate it Annie. Sometimes my sarcasm doesn’t translate…especially late at night.

  215. Annie says:

    Hannity is interviewing Santorum – Santorum is so tweaked out over the big, bad media giving him a hard time. He gets so animated and angry. Hannity saying Santorum is being deliberately positioned as a far-right religious nut by the media. I think Santorum is already there…

  216. SUSYQUE says:

    Bill Clinton, a married man and womanizer, disgraced our country by what he did sexually in the White House with an intern. He lied to the citizenry on TV when he pointed his finger and said. “I did not have sex with that woman.” This man was a Rhodes Scholar, so we know he was quite intelligent…but he was not wise. He was not a great President.

  217. Annie says:

    Santorum is whining on Hannity about the “lies” of the media about his religiousness in life. Somehow this reminds me of Gingrich whining about the “lies” of the ads run against him. I say, where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire.

  218. Annie says:

    Bill Clinton was simply fortunate enough to be president after the fall of the Soviet Union and during a bubble before it burst.

  219. kristen says:

    Good Evening HHRs.

  220. Annie says:

    I’m off to eat my dinner – bye for now –

  221. kristen says:

    Anyone for a brokered convention?

  222. Khloe Kardashian installs a sex swing. Happy nightmares

    ‘It’s so much work to be a sexual person!’ Khloe Kardashian tries to install a sex swing… but it breaks when she tries it out with husband Lamar–breaks-tries-husband-Lamar.html

  223. Annie says:

    Before I go – Santorum is bringing up his little Bella again as an example of reasons against prenatal testing. Good grief… He is getting a lot of mileage out of his daughter’s affliction (bless the child).

  224. not news: married republican judge caught with defense attorney naked in backseat of car.

    not news: in a homosexual encounter

    news: both were women

  225. SoHope says:

    “Karen Santorum had invetro-surgery after diagnosing prenatal testing indentified Gabriel’s condition.

    Some time after the surgery she developed a fever and they induced labor and delivered Gabriel at 19 week. The earliest premature baby born and survived was 21 weeks 5 days.

    How does Rick Santorum reconcile his belief that abortion is wrong even in the case of live of the mother, when they induced labor knowing their child would not survive.”

  226. after taser had no effect on sword-wielding man, British police had no choice but to get on the radio and ask for officers with actual guns to be sent

  227. Tim V says:

    212- lots of joy, bitter. joy is a fruit of the spirit. greater is he that is within me than he that is in the world.

  228. SoHope says:

    Mr. Santorum has not offered up a plan to balance the budget.

    But he has had time to:

    1. Have proxies attack our Muslim president.
    2. Talk about how condoms destroy America.
    3. Say how pre-natal testing increase the occurance of abortions.
    4. Caused the stock of the maker of Bayer Asprin to skyrocket.
    5. Make Obama’s reelect numbers to spike.


  229. SUSYQUE says:

    Santorum is no push-over. He feels passionately about family values and morals and has the ability to articulate that. I respect his opinion on partial birth abortion. However, like Annie, bio mom, and others have said, he does not have the organization needed to run a long race which is evident when he failed to get on the ballot in Indiana. He is young enough to try again in the 2016 election.

  230. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim V – I’m glad you’re happy.

  231. Wobbles says:

    Yes, I am for a brokered convention, even though I support Romney. He has not been able to put away his opponents for the nomination.

  232. Tim V says:

    Can there be any when you are living in a world dominated by Satan?
    in the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer, i have overcome the world.

  233. Tim V says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 20, 2012 at 9:33 pm
    Tim V – I’m glad you’re happy

    thanks, i have been in an up cyle for 3 months now.

  234. mnw says:


    That is “Sparta special pleading”!

    What difference did that make to the helots? How much political participation did Messenia women have?

  235. SUSYQUE says:

    So-Hope…They could have aborted the baby when they found out there was a problem. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out for them. We don’t know all the facts. Tebow’s mom almost lost him before 9 months, but she insisted on keeping that baby in her and he was born healthy. I hope many abortion places will become adoption agencies.

  236. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m watching a special on Military Channel about the shooting of Reagan. I was 13 when it happened. I didn’t know at the time that Reagan was minutes away from dying.

  237. mnw says:

    Don’t hold your breath. Abortion is the sacrament of the liberal church. Plus, it’s the only genuine “recovery industry” zero has.

  238. how much political participation did african americans have?

  239. SUSYQUE says:

    I guess the old adage…”Don’t talk politics or religion when you are not around family.”

  240. mnw says:

    I hold no brief for the institution of slavery in the South– NONE AT ALL– but I’m not sure that premeditated mass murder (as a matter of policy) was used against the slaves in the South, as far as I know.

    The Spartans employed premeditated mass murder against helots SUSPECTED of revolutionary tendencies– repeatedly.

  241. SUSYQUE says:

    Tim V. how is you son doing? Do you get to
    talk to him on the cell phone, or connect on
    the internet?

  242. the suth murdered slaves suspected f revolutionary tendencies

    e.g. nat turner’s rebellin: In total, the state executed 56 blacks suspected of having been involved in the uprising. In the aftermath, close to 200 blacks, many of whom had nothing to do with the rebellion, were beaten, tortured, and killed

  243. mnw says:


    For the first time ever, I must accuse you of historical illiteracy. I brought thisw arcane subject up, but… you just don’t know what you don’t know:

    “According to Aristotle, the ephors annually declared war on the Helots, thereby allowing the Spartans to kill them without fear of religious pollution. [SS, anyone? uh, lisab?]…

    “the Helots were invited by a proclamation to pick out those of their number who had most distinguished themselves against the enemy, in order that they might receive their freedom… As many as 2000 were selected accordingly… the Spartans, however, soon after did away with them.”

  244. Robbie says:

    183.PPP sez W’s approval rating is now one point higher than zero’s.

    Comment by mnw — February 20, 2012 @ 8:25 pm

    But the Bush name is trash. Jeb can never be president because of it. No more Bushes.

  245. mnw says:

    But I’m sure the Spartans were mighty nice to their ladyfolk.

  246. Robbie says:

    226.Anyone for a brokered convention?

    Comment by kristen — February 20, 2012 @ 9:16 pm

    If no one gets 1144 delegates, I’m for a convention that explores every option available, even if that ends up ultimately being Romney.

  247. ““According to Aristotle, the ephors annually declared war on the Helots, thereby allowing the Spartans to kill them without fear of religious pollution. ”

    i knew that

    and i also know that the southerners used the bible to justify enslaving african americans

  248. monetarist says:

    The reason Santorum is good: He is the personification of “the right wing extremist freak”. Thus, in contrast, Romney looks so much better in the eyes of the general electorate. Obama won’t be able to paint Romney as a radical right-winger since everyone can see for their own eyes what a right wing whacko truly looks like.

    I beg of my fellow Republicans, please come to your senses! While Romney is no where near ideal, he’s competent and a capitalist and can actually stand a decent chance of getting the Marxist out of the White House.

    If Santorum is our nominee, I won’t have a political party to call home any more. I’ll still vote for Santorum, but only because I can’t stand Obama.

    All in on Romney 2012.

  249. Annie says:

    monetarist – The inside scoop among the number crunchers is that Romney is gaining on Santorum in Michigan, and has the edge. My only worry is that Democrats will vote in the open primary for Santorum, just to throw the GOP race into confusion. As for Republicans leaning toward Santorum, I also hope they can wake-up and vote pragmatically, for once.

  250. Annie says:

    251 – Jeb Bush will not run for national office – so stop with the Bush bashing already. He will not because of his wife and children, not because of his brother or father. Columba Bush, though a really nice lady, has been raked over the coals for her personal spending habits, and daughter Noelle has been in rehab for a prescription drug problem. However, Jeb could run for the Senate in Florida, and win easily. He was a very good governor.

  251. phoenixrisen says:

    #255 — Disagree Annie. The race actually has been quite stable save that crazy PPP poll that was post Santorum’s tri-state win. Still quite a few undecideds but Santorum has all the intangibles in his favor like a more enthusiastic base, Dem operation chaos, Gingrich voters bailing on Gingrich and going into the Santorum camp and a lot of union support. Santorum is still up about 3-5 points. Reports on the ground in Michigan from people I know and have seen elsewhere in the conservative blogosphere say that Romney’s message has been awful up there. I’d like to see a SurveyUSA, Rasmussen, Detroit News or Mitchell Research poll out of Michigan as they are the most stable. PPP is always a grain of salt until two days out before election day. One thing is remarkable is that there are still quite a few undecideds depending on which poll you look at.

  252. Tim V says:

    SUSYQUE says:
    February 20, 2012 at 10:05 pm
    Tim V. how is you son doing? Do you get to
    talk to him on the cell phone, or connect on
    the internet?


  253. Tim V says:


    thread rule- encourage MD to return.

  254. Tim V says:

    md, we miss you, please come back. bitter has no sidekick.

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