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Polls From GA, MA, OH, OK and TN

Some Friday night polls for the Super Tuesday states from YouGov that shows Mitt Romney leading in his home state, Newt Gingrich leading in his old home state, and Rick Santorum leading the others.

PRESIDENT – GEORGIA – GOP PRIMARY (YouGov)
Newt Gingrich 32%
Mitt Romney 27%
Rick Santorum 17%
Ron Paul 10%

PRESIDENT – MASSACHUSETTS – GOP PRIMARY (YouGov)
Mitt Romney 56%
Rick Santorum 16%
Newt Gingrich 5%
Ron Paul 5%

PRESIDENT – OHIO – GOP PRIMARY (YouGov)
Rick Santorum 33%
Mitt Romney 27%
Newt Gingrich 12%
Ron Paul 8%

PRESIDENT – OKLAHOMA – GOP PRIMARY (YouGov)
Rick Santorum 28%
Mitt Romney 25%
Newt Gingrich 20%
Ron Paul 13%

PRESIDENT – TENNESSEE – GOP PRIMARY (YouGov)
Rick Santorum 32%
Mitt Romney 23%
Newt Gingrich 16%
Ron Paul 13%

These polls were all done February 25-March 1 among 500 likely voters in GA and TN, 400 likely voters in MA, 250 likely voters in OK, and 650 likely voters in OH.

Posted by Dave at 7:01 pm
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90 Responses to “Polls From GA, MA, OH, OK and TN”

  1. pitchaboy says:

    Expect a good show by Romney next week.

  2. GF says:

    Fingers crossed for anything approaching a sweep. Only caveat; taking Newt out in GA could lead to him dropping out and conslidating ABR behind Sancto.

  3. Ben Romney says:

    what is the different of the poll with leaners???

  4. bio mom says:

    Poll is too old!! Spans too many pre Michigan days. Underestimates Romney.

  5. SUSYQUE says:

    The New Gotcha for Romney by Eric from Red State
    “Romney tried to get ooo to embrace the
    individual mandate.”

    Had Michigan not been as close, the Democrats would have waited to spring this on us in the general election. Luckily we have it now and I hope Ohio voters are paying attention.

    In July 2009, Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed in USA Today urging Barack Obama to usean individual mandate at the national level to control healthcare costs.

    On the campaign trail now, Mitt Romney says the individual mandate is appropriate for Massachusetts, but not the nation. Repeatedly in debates, Romney has said he opposes a national individual mandate.

    But back in 2009, as Barack Obama was formulating his healthcare vision for the country, Mitt Romney encouraged him publicly to use an individual mandate. In his op-ed, Governor Romney suggested that the federal government learn from Massachusetts how to make healthcare available for all. One of those things was “Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages “free riders” to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others.”

    Friends, if Mitt Romney is the nominee, we will be unable to fight Obama on an issue that 60% of Americans agree with us on.

  6. jenny-the former republican says:

    The Supreme Court will strike down the mandate and it will be a none issue. Erik is a religious bigot who hates Mormons. I wonder how the Obama administration will fudge the unemployment numbers next week. According to Gallup, the number should rise. It’s the economy stupid!

  7. jenny-the former republican says:

    Pious Rick is an idiot. H.W. Bush was elected president so a moderate can win!

  8. Tim V says:

    We have 4 candidates. They all have serious flaws. With Ron Paul we have no national security. With Newt we have various issues fro the marital past to grandiose ideas to lobbying to self admitted progressive big gov’t leanings. With Santo we get a cultural war that we have already lost. That leaves us wuth Mitt, our least flawed candidate. He is 1000% better than Obama.

    Mitt:

    1.Proven business leadership
    2. Ideal experience as a Govenor
    3.Reasonable solid fiscal conservative
    4. He can attract swing voters, especially upscale suburban voters.

  9. SUSYQUE says:

    #9…Tim V…Excellent post! Well written!

  10. Apologetic California says:

    It doesn’t feel like a Super Tuesday is coming in just a few days. Georgetown hussy is taking up too much space.

  11. Apologetic California says:

    I mean to say Hoya Hussy, it rhymes.

  12. SUSYQUE says:

    #11..What person are you talking about?

  13. Ayatollah_Rick says:

    Romney in 2009 -Obama should look to my mandate in MA in crafting Obamacare

    http://mittromneycentral.com/op-eds/2009-op-eds/mr-president-whats-the-rush/

    [QUOTE]Massachusetts also proved that you don’t need government insurance. Our citizens purchase private, free-market medical insurance. There is no “public option.” With more than 1,300 health insurance companies, a federal government insurance company isn’t necessary. It would inevitably lead to massive taxpayer subsidies, to lobbyist-inspired coverage mandates and to the liberals’ dream: a European-style single-payer system. To find common ground with skeptical Republicans and conservative Democrats, the president will have to jettison left-wing ideology for practicality and dump the public option.

    Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn’t have to break the bank. [B]First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages “free riders” to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn’t cost the government a single dollar. Second, we helped pay for our new program by ending an old one — something government should do more often.[/B] The federal government sends an estimated $42 billion to hospitals that care for the poor: Use those funds instead to help the poor buy private insurance, as we did.[/QUOTE]

  14. jenny-the former republican says:

    #14, Ann Coulter said that conservatives like newt gingrich and the Heritage Foundation supported insurance mandates. It was an alternative to the public option. Why is this news?

  15. SUSYQUE says:

    15…Jenny…Good point! Do you know who #11-12 is talking about?

  16. Emerica says:

    Mitt Romney will be like McCain in 2008. Base stays home or votes third party since Romney should never be president.

  17. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Nothing in there that is unusual

    Erickson cracking up…

  18. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Acroso time to get behind rand for 16 it be over for grandpa

  19. Tim V says:

    susy, emerica is bunu

  20. Tim V says:

    susy, 11-12 is the flake woman that limbaugh called a slut

  21. SUSYQUE says:

    #20…Tim V, Thanks for the info.
    Who is #11 and 12 talking about?

  22. Tim V says:

    Erickson cracking up…

    abr derangement syndrome

  23. SUSYQUE says:

    #23..Tim V, thanks again. These “pet” names are maddening!

  24. ParakeetsForTheIndividualMandate says:

    Quiet tonight…

  25. Emerica says:

    I want Ron to run Libertarian that way Rand has to go against the GOP, and hurt Romney (or at least GOP will perceive it this way)

    That way Rand can run for the GOP nOmination and make it ugly

  26. Emerica says:

    It will be disturbing when Rand backs Romney.

    This could all be avoided by getting Ron to run Libertarian again.

  27. CAgopguy says:

    How old is Norm Dicks?

  28. ParakeetsForTheIndividualMandate says:

    Grandpa goes third party the gop will destroy rand and end his career

  29. Annie says:

    Susy – I must strongly differ with your opinion that Romney would not be able to compete on the issue of Obamacare with Mr. 0 in a general election. First and foremost – Romney has stated that the first thing he would do as president is end Obamacare, a major drag on our economy (and will most likely be found unconstitutional this coming summer). Obama in a second term would mean Obamacare cemented as the law of the land – Obama would never get rid of his “greatest” legislative accomplishment. Secondly – however the development of Obamacare came about in relationship to “Romneycare” (actually, Massachusetts state legislature health care) does not matter, because “Romneycare” was created for the needs of a single state, not on a national level. It’s a matter of our Constitution granting specific rights to the states that it precludes the federal government from doing – and if Massachusetts wants a statewide health plan, that is the state’s prerogative. Now, specific portions of the Massachusetts plan could translate to a national requirements in insurance policies, but other portions – which, as laid out on a federal constitutional basis, are unconstitutional. Of course, the whole issue – the difference between Massachusetts law vs. federal law – needs to be better explained, so that the likes of Rick Santorum cannot indulge in demagogy over misconceptions. Romney remains the only man with executive experience in the race, and has more executive experience than Obama (more successful executive experience as well). Moreover, Romney remains the only man in the race for president, including Obama, who knows how to manage an economy and budget, and how to generate wealth.

  30. Tim V says:

    nite all. mfg, I know I have been attacking you lately and you have not attacked back. I will try my best to lay off you. I’ve had a horrible cold/flu with a cough that won’t stop. Finally got some codine cough syrup that really does the trick. Trouble is it’s half gone with no refill on the Rx. oh well.

  31. Annie says:

    Ann Coulter is correct – Newt Gingrich has touted individual health mandates since the early 1990s – and he has done so very recently, advocating for an individual mandate for anyone making over $50,000 per year.

  32. Emerica says:

    I don’t want Rand to run for a second term anyway and a dumb idea.

    Run or president.

    I feel strongly that Ron’s base will be able to take Iowa in 2016 if Rand throws his hat in. In 08 we got 13000 votes and this time almost 27000 just short of the 30000 that Mitt and Santo got.

    I’d rather win ugly than watch Rand back Romney and just be another next in line.

  33. Annie says:

    Ayatollah_Rick – You have stated my case about Massachusetts health care perfectly – thank you.

  34. ParakeetsForTheIndividualMandate says:

    Load up on zinc tablets at first sign of a cold works for me and I tend to have nasty prolonged colds hope you feel better

  35. ParakeetsForTheIndividualMandate says:

    No evidence rand will be seen as presidential after one term

    Plus the r bench will be very strong next time Jindal christie thune daniels rubio mcdonnel etc etc

  36. Annie says:

    Friday is movie night – so I’m off to see a flick with my husband! Still haven’t decided which one…probably “The Artist.” So, bye for tonight -

  37. Emerica says:

    Doesn’t matter

    The whole nation could think Rand was a joker, and we could still win Iowa.

  38. Emerica says:

    “bench” will have to do a lot better than 30000 votes next time if that’s the case because our numbers will go up (new 18-29 voters)

  39. Robbie says:

    Aren’t YouGov polls internet polls?

  40. Robbie says:

    You know things aren’t going so well when there is already talk about the bench in 2016. Personally, I think 2016 will be far more difficult than most think.

    Obama is going to be re-elected and he’s going to get the benefit of being president when the economy improves. He and Democrats will receive lots of goodwill from the press for that.

    The likely Democrat candidates in 2016, O’Malley and Cuomo, are going to be very difficult to beat because it’s likely, despite what Obama does, the economy will be far better than when Obama took over in 2009.

    We actually had a pretty good bench for 2012 (Bush, Christie, Daniels, Thune, Daniels), yet none chose to run. Who’s to say the bench doesn’t bail again in 2016? I can easily see Rubio and Paul remaining in the Senate. There also no guarantee Christie will be re-elected in 2013 because NJ is so Democrat leaning. That would end his chances.

    Right now, we might end up with Jindal and Palin running and I suspect the Tea Party will be scalp hunting after we go down the tubes with Romney in 2012. Palin could be a real force in 2016 and that scares me to death.

  41. Diamond Jim says:

    The election is eight freaking months away. To assume Obama is going to win at this point is asinine.

  42. Diamond Jim says:

    Gallup shows that unemployment went up in February. Gas prices are increasing. Durable goods orders were down by 4%. What exactly is indicating that the economy is getting better?

  43. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    “There is so much talk right now about gas prices.

    Who’s at fault? Is it President Obama for not drilling enough? Is it OPEC for price fixing? Could it be greedy oil companies?

    There are many reasons being floated as to why gas prices are so high but there is one that you aren’t going to hear from most media and it is tied directly to the value of the dollar in your pocket.

    While conservatives and liberals argue over taxes and spending in Congress, the Federal Reserve is stealing the value of the dollar in your wallet. The Federal Reserve has printed over $4 trillion every year for the four years, and they hand out this magic money to their friends on Wall Street. All these dollars flooding the economy make each dollar worth a little bit less.

    Since the Fed was created in 1917, the value of the dollar has fallen 99%. That means $1 today can only buy as much as 1 cent did back in 1917.”

    http://libertariosusa.org/2012/03/02/real-cause-of-high-gas-prices/

  44. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Must blow Obama…
    Must troll for Democrats…..

  45. janz says:

    I don’t think anything can be assumed, at this point in time — whether Obama is elected or defeated in November. There are just too many variables in front of us, along with a populace known for it’s hair-trigger whims and emotional patterns in choosing who they may momentarily may ‘like.’ The state of our economy, whether Israel goes after Iran or not, who the R nominee eventually is — the list of unknowns and uncertainties weighing in on how the next 8 months play out, and in whose favor they will serve are enormous.

  46. janz says:

    Reading that article posted in #45 is just another example of Santorum handing the hat of blame around — this time dealing with his failure of collecting enough signatures. His organization has definitely not been up to par. But, he would rather say that it is the fault of the establishment elite in their efforts to hand-pick the candidate of their own choosing. In this case it would be his closest rival, Mitt Romney, of course,

  47. dinglewoodnorwoodbill says:

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/03/02/breaking-mitt-romney-urged-obama-to-embrace-the-individual-mandate/

    WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE SANTORUM IS THE NOMINEE AFTER ALL.

    Mitt lied, healthcare died.

    He urged Obama to back the individual mandate. He give up the issue of the 2012 cycle in on stroke and if voters ralize he was talking about national adoption, it’s over.

    He cannot contrast at all on this, only Rick can.

  48. Diamond Jim says:

    I have seen this meme that Obama is going to win pop up in a few places this week.

  49. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    This was my favorite Janz:

    “The attempt by the establishment to to deceive the voters of Ohio and further their hand-picked candidate will be met with resistance on Tuesday. I want to be clear, Rick Santorum’s name will appear on every ballot in the state of Ohio and every vote cast will go towards his At-Large Delegate Allocation,” Santorum campaign communications director Hogan Gidley told ABC News. “As it relates to individual Congressional Districts, it’s clear we aren’t the establishment hand-picked candidate and back in December we were a small effort focused on Iowa. Now that we’ve won several states Obviously much has changed and we feel confident that we will do well in both the delegate and popular vote count on Tuesday.”

    Its the establishments fault Santorum doesnt have a full slate of delegates!

    How pathetic can you get…???

  50. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Chekote you need to be institutionalized

  51. janz says:

    #49 I’ve read the story, heard the clip, and it’s all a bunch of hype, smoke and mirrors and political tripe. However, there are those who will make as much political hay out of it as they can, lip-syncing DNC talking points, regurgitating the emphasis of the story to fit the diatribe they want to invent against Romney.

    It’s dumb, boring, stupid, but it will be effective with those people who don’t like to think for themselves.

  52. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    “Explaining the other differences, Paul thinks government’s purpose should be limited pretty much to protecting life and property from force and fraud, and that even most of that should be left to the states. Santorum’s more totalist vision of government’s role in shaping virtue and the social order makes him actively and vocally hostile to the very idea of libertarian governance, and to the notion that we should be free if we wish to choose our own purposes and even to just accumulate property and “stuff,” of which Santorum is contemptuous.

    Santorum may be, as Politico wrote, now the “the race’s unambiguous conservative alternative,” but that’s by a particularly ugly and narrow vision of conservatism. As that same Politico piece notes, Santorum “did himself no favors with loyal GOP activists by launching a robocall attempting to lure Democrats to play in the Republican primary” in Michigan—his position is assailable, heartwarming appeals to his mom and daughter notwithstanding.

    Paul fan and best-selling author Charles Goyette offers some good reasons that the standard GOP conservative should be able to see the value for his party in Paul:

    Establishment Republicans are a breed unto themselves. If you go to their long-term planning meetings, if you listen to them talk about their Party’s future…It’s all about broadening the base, getting more young people involved, becoming relevant, how to capture enthusiasm, more young people, using the internet, reaching out to young people, figuring out how to fundraise in the digital age, getting more young people.

    Now, along comes Ron Paul, who offers them exactly what they want: young people, enthusiasm, an unbeatable social media campaign, devoted volunteers, better demographics, new fundraising success, a campaign worthy of the digital age, relevance, money, excitement, and (did I mention?) young people.

    It’s exactly what they have wished for. Exactly what they need. And they turn their back on it.”

    http://reason.com/archives/2012/03/02/ron-paul-vs-rick-santorum

  53. Walt says:

    My sources tell me that the unemployment numbers for next week will show we have 104% employment as millions of currently unemployed Americans will mysteriously vanish from the rolls.

  54. dinglewoodnorwoodbill says:

    Are u that much in denial???

    The videos speak for themselves, and also contradict Mitt’s 10th amendment claims.

    He lied.

    Pure and simple.

    On he seminal issue of this election, he 100000% cannot argue with Obama.

    This is DEAL BREAKING issue if the media examines it in any real way, and assuming voters are not stupid to buy damage control spin of Romney to lie again his way out of an indefensible spot.

    In EVERY debate Mittens has argued:

    “what’s good for MA is NOT a national model, you cannot compare Romneycare to Obamacare, 10th amendment states rights, remember those, try again Santorum!”

    Well, sorry Mitt, but tomorrow night on Huckabee better bring your lawyer as you try to lie yourself out of urging Obama himself to adopt an individual mandate, the core of national health care that’s UNCONSTITIONAL, at least COUNTRYWIDE in APPLICATION.

    Game over.

    Rick wins OH and the nomination.

  55. dinglewoodnorwoodbill says:

    Romney URGED Obama to adopt the unconstitional mandate for Obamacare at a NATIONAL level, proving he’s a liberal liar who defends state mandated personal slavery.

    His chances of winning the nomination are ZERO now, if this is properly shown to the American people.

    Santorum wins the GOP nomination.

    Bet on it.

  56. Walt says:

    What handle is Chek using these days?

  57. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Uh

    In all of these Mitt is clearly talking only about the MA plan

    My God you psychopaths are desperate

  58. dinglewoodnorwoodbill says:

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/romney-urged-obama-to-embrace-individual-mandate-in-2009.php

    Conservatives despise this, Romny urged Obama to use it nationally, in 2009.

    Game. Set. Match. Bye bye Mittens, do not let the door hit you on the way out!

  59. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    How have you been Walt?

  60. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Talking Points Memo far left site lol

  61. dinglewoodnorwoodbill says:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/02/1070346/-Mitt-Romney-urged-President-Obama-to-propose-individual-mandate

    Even the Kos kids get it right.

    Romney in his own words backed it in 2007.

    Let me guess, you guys are going to DEFEND Romney anyway, aint ya?

    Idiots, he has to WITHDRAW over this, almost, much less can claim your or any Republican support. If you disagree, you need to be forcibly thrown out of the party since you have no clue about what it means to be a conservative or a Republican.

    Get the facts. Get a clue.

    Vote Rick.

  62. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Uh, again…

    He was speaking only about the MA plan as anyone who can read can plainly tell

  63. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Now its Daily Kos?

  64. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    DSMOG…

  65. dinglewoodnorwoodbill says:

    No, he’s NOT talking about the MA plan, “in all these” but that alone disqualifies him if you were a real conservative or Republican.

    He urged Obama, clearly, to ADOPT the mandate at the NATIONAL LEVEL in Obamacare:

    Quotes by Mitt himself:

    “First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages “free riders” to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others.”

    That, my friends, is the individual mandate. And Mitt was proud of it:

    “The Massachusetts reform aimed at getting virtually all our citizens insured. In that, it worked: 98% of our citizens are insured, 440,000 previously uninsured are covered and almost half of those purchased insurance on their own, with no subsidy.”

    “And if President Obama had been willing to move forward without the public option (which he was), then Mitt Romney said he was ready to move forward with a national plan:”

    “Republicans will join with the Democrats if the president abandons his government insurance plan, if he endeavors to craft a plan that does not burden the nation with greater debt, if he broadens his scope to reduce health costs for all Americans, and if he is willing to devote the rigorous effort, requisite time and bipartisan process that health care reform deserves.”

    And, as Mitt Romney made clear at the top of his op-ed, the plan he supported was one built around what he said worked in Massachusetts—including the individual mandate.

    IOW, Mitt lied, healthcare died.

  66. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    No he didn’t you motherfuqqing lying piece of sh*t there is NOTHING in there, not in the editorial, nor in either video clip that can even be theoretically construed as an endorsement of a national mandate to buy health insurance

    You have finally made me pro choice Chekote

    Your Mother should have taken a pair of scissors to you when she had a chance

  67. janz says:

    Last word for the evening…

    Romney never ‘urged’ Obama to do anything of the sort. He did suggest that other states look over what was done in MA to see if they found any appropriate application to their own state’s HC circumstances. Romney’s words, though, are being misconstrued, taken out of context, reinterpreted for the benefit of those who continue in trying to make the national format of Obamacare, a 2700 page document, a twin of what was covered in 70 pages in the state of MA.

    It’s ridiculous!

  68. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    #69 You are the ultimate useful idiot!

    ObamaCare is a stone-cold repetition of RomneyCare…..which was essentially HillaryCare…..on and on

    All these government-run HC takeovers are the same: they are so-called “managed competition” plans

    They all have the same basic features:

    (1) Compulsary Participation (ie individual and employer mandates)

    (2) Taxpayer Subsidies

    (3) A government-run Monopoly Market (ie the so-called “exchange” in ObamaCare and the “connector” in RomneyCare)

    To say they arent the same is simply a lie or a gross demonstration of your vast ignorance

    Wake up to the truth

  69. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    WEC

    MA can adopt any health care plan it wants

    If you don’t like it, don’t live in MA and if you already live in MA get the fuqq out and live somewhere else

    Its not hard to grasp its called federalism and its the foundation of our country

  70. janz says:

    Wylie

    You are like an old phonograph record with the needle stuck on talking points.

  71. Walt says:

    Fine. Been very busy until the session is over in a week. Then Budget Week.

    Have had very little time to even lurk here.

    Staying down at the Capitol this weekend and saving 10 hours of driving time.

    Storms passed through. Cable is out.

  72. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Janz, this hatred of Romney is surreal its the worst thing I’ve ever seen worse than the hate of Nixon, Clinton, Bush, anyone

  73. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    Walt,

    Did you guys get any tornadoes?

  74. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    How do your fellow legislators feel about the Presidential race, what is their sentiment…???

  75. Walt says:

    Tornadoes apparently S and W of Charleston, WV in KY and West Liberty, Ohio (that left 2 confirmed dead and among other things flattened a volunteer fire company–maybe an hour or so away. Nothing here except heavy rains. Flood watches in many counties now.

  76. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    Here is the REAL STORY on RomneyCare cum ObamaCare: Its a scam to implement stealth government-run health care and both parties are in on it!

    The plan was for Obama to put out a “radical” HC plan with the so-called “government option” included

    Our so-called “conservative repulican” establishment types where then to make a whole bunch of noise and whining about how the “government option” was “socialism” and we, like good suckers, were supposed to get behind them like good lemmings….

    Then Obama and his cronies where then to “back off” and “drop” the “government option”….this was supposed to be a “moderate” compromise (witness the phoney outrage of leftist like the KOS, etc) that was “forced” on them by our “great conservative heros” in the GOP establishment…..a “big” conservative victory that was nothing really except the shaft!

    However, this little sucker-play got disrupted by one small obstacle that the politcal elites forgot about: the people!

    Some wackos called “the Tea Party” exposed the Individual Mandate ruse!

    Folks, the Individual Mandate simply sub-contracts the government-run HC plan thru crony capitalist Big Insurance firms!

    Right now, there are over 4200 firms selling health insurance – under ObamaCare there will be only 3 or 4 huge ones (this is what happened in Maine under a similar plan – they went from 14 health insurance companies down to 1 due the excessive taxes and regulations!)

    Since the government controls who can afford what thru regulation, subsidizes the system, and forces you (at gun point) to participate – this is government HC with a phoney private facade!

    The politicans and technocrats are in control and are just kickin’ a few bucks back to their Big Health Insurance/Pharma pals!

    And here is the Kicker – politicans of BOTH parties dont want to level with you and tell you that Medicare is BROKE and thus either higher taxes and/or massive cuts/rationing is needed to keep it running…..

    Instead of leveling with you, they decided to pass the buck by shafting the young and healthly by forcing them to buy WAY more insurance then they need – since Medicare underpays Docs/Hospitals, private insurnace gets overbilled to pick up the slack…..its a scam that allows the politicans of both parties to get away with not telling you the TRUTH!

    Seniors also get their too with the “death panel” rationing boards since treating them is “Not Cost Effective”….

    Why dont we all wise up and quit beleving the lies spewed by the Statist Establishment politicans…..

    Clearly, Romney, from the USA Today article, was in on this establishment conspiracy to lie to the American public and shaft us with Facist/Socialist government run HC!

    Wake up to the TRUTH!!!!!

  77. Frontal Robbieotomy says:

    JHCOAMFC

  78. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    #72 You pimp “talking points” – I speak truth

    Is your lust for power and control over others so great that you would willfully espouse such ignorance and lies?

    I see a great future for you as a mid-level quisling in the soon-to-be-established Authoritrian super-state!

  79. Walt says:

    Frontal R.–

    In our state, Obammer is VERY unpopular. State will go red again in November for POTUS race by double digits. It should impact state races as well. Most D legislators are running away from Obammer.

    GOP has good chance of winning 1 or 2 of the Sup. Ct. races, 50-50 to win governor race, very good chance to win State At. Gen. and Treasurer.

    Thinking is that we could increase our current 35 (out of 100) seats in House to a range of somewhere between 42 and 52. Should gain a few Senate seats–but we only have 6 of 34 now and many D are running unopposed in friendly districts made even better for them due to redistricting.

    GOP state meeting is here this weekend.

  80. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    Here is the REAL STORY on RomneyCare cum ObamaCare: Its was a mutal conspricacy by the DC politcal elite in both parties into to forcee the implementation of stealth government-run health care

    YES – both parties WERE in on it!

    The plan was for Obama to put out a “radical” HC plan with the so-called “government option” included

    Our so-called “conservative repulican” establishment types where then to make a whole bunch of noise and whining about how the “government option” was “socialism” and we, like good children, were supposed to get behind them and tote the party line….

    Then Obama and his cronies where then to “back off” and “drop” the “government option”….this was supposed to be a “moderate” compromise (witness the phoney outrage of leftists like the Kos, etc) that was “forced” on them by our “great conservative heros” in the GOP establishment…..a “big” conservative victory that was nothing really except governmen-run HC!

    However, this little misdirecting-play got disrupted by one small obstacle that the politcal elites forgot about: the people!

    Some people called “the Tea Party” caught on to the scheme and exposed the Individual Mandate ruse!

    Folks, the Individual Mandate simply sub-contracts the government-run HC plan thru crony capitalist Big Insurance firms!

    Right now, there are over 4200 firms selling health insurance – under ObamaCare there will be only 3 or 4 huge ones (this is what happened in Maine under a similar plan – they went from 14 health insurance companies down to 1 due the excessive taxes and regulations!)

    Since the government controls who can afford what thru regulation, subsidizes the system, and forces you (at gun point) to participate – this is government HC with a phoney private facade!

    The politicans and technocrats are in control and are just kickin’ a few bucks back to their Big Health Insurance/Pharma pals!

    And here is the Kicker – politicans of BOTH parties dont want to level with you and tell you that Medicare is BROKE and thus either higher taxes and/or massive cuts/rationing is needed to keep it running…..

    Instead of leveling with you, they decided to pass the buck by shafting the young and healthly by forcing them to buy WAY more insurance then they need – since Medicare underpays Docs/Hospitals, private insurnace gets overbilled to pick up the slack…..its a scam that allows the politicans of both parties to get away with not telling you the TRUTH!

    Seniors also get theirs too with the “death panel” rationing boards since treating them is “Not Cost Effective”….

    Why dont we all wise up and quit beleving the lies put out by the Statist Establishment politicans…..

    Clearly, Romney, from the USA Today article, was in on this establishment conspiracy to lie to the American public and leave us with Facist/Socialist government run HC!

    Wake up to the TRUTH!!!!!

  81. lisab says:

    “A government-run Monopoly Market (ie the so-called “exchange” in ObamaCare and the “connector” in RomneyCare)”

    in massachusetts “connector” is not a monpoly nor government run

    there are many options at many price points

  82. lisab says:

    and all are private insurance

    i bought my hmo from there, but now i am billed directly from the company

  83. lisab says:

    “Around the world, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, what they did was hard. It takes time. It takes more than a single term. It takes more than a single president. It takes more than a single individual,” Palin said.

  84. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    #83 There are many many more “price points” and “options” in a free market vice a government-created monopoly market

    Certainly you arent that ignornant of Free Market economics are you?

  85. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    #84 Yeah, just like the Federal Reserve is “private” lol

    Private in name only

    Politcally/government contolled via regulation and law

    Certain crony capitalists get to sell you the policy so they can take a profit, but the real people in charge of what kind of health care you get are government technocrats

    Follow the money honey – who do you thing has the pull with those “private HC” companies – you with your thousand or so dollar premium or the government with there hundred of billions of dollars of subsides….

    If you are this naive, you will probably be telling me soon that Socialist Security is “social insurance” that has a “trust fund” LOL

    I guess you can put lipstick on pigs and get some suckers to call them beauty queens – you are the case study in this!

  86. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    Here is the REAL STORY on RomneyCare aka ObamaCare: Its was a mutal conspricacy by the DC politcal elite in both parties into to forcee the implementation of stealth government-run health care

    YES – both parties WERE in on it!

    The plan was for Obama to put out a “radical” HC plan with the so-called “government option” included

    Our so-called “conservative repulican” establishment types where then to make a whole bunch of noise and whining about how the “government option” was “socialism” and we, like good children, were supposed to get behind them and tote the party line….

    Then Obama and his cronies where then to “back off” and “drop” the “government option”….this was supposed to be a “moderate” compromise (witness the phoney outrage of leftists like the Kos, etc) that was “forced” on them by our “great conservative heros” in the GOP establishment…..a “big” conservative victory that was nothing really except governmen-run HC!

    However, this little misdirecting-play got disrupted by one small obstacle that the politcal elites forgot about: the people!

    Some people called “the Tea Party” caught on to the scheme and exposed the Individual Mandate ruse!

    Folks, the Individual Mandate simply sub-contracts the government-run HC plan thru crony capitalist Big Insurance firms!

    Right now, there are over 4200 firms selling health insurance – under ObamaCare there will be only 3 or 4 huge ones (this is what happened in Maine under a similar plan – they went from 14 health insurance companies down to 1 due the excessive taxes and regulations!)

    Since the government controls who can afford what thru regulation, subsidizes the system, and forces you (at gun point) to participate – this is government HC with a phoney private facade!

    The politicans and technocrats are in control and are just kickin’ a few bucks back to their Big Health Insurance/Pharma pals!

    And here is the Kicker – politicans of BOTH parties dont want to level with you and tell you that Medicare is BROKE and thus either higher taxes and/or massive cuts/rationing is needed to keep it running…..

    Instead of leveling with you, they decided to pass the buck by shafting the young and healthly by forcing them to buy WAY more insurance then they need – since Medicare underpays Docs/Hospitals, private insurnace gets overbilled to pick up the slack…..its a scam that allows the politicans of both parties to get away with not telling you the TRUTH!

    Seniors also get theirs too with the “death panel” rationing boards since treating them is “Not Cost Effective”….

    Why dont we all wise up and quit beleving the lies put out by the Statist Establishment politicans…..

    Clearly, Romney, from the USA Today article, was in on this establishment conspiracy to lie to the American public and leave us with Facist/Socialist government run HC!

    Wake up to the TRUTH!!!!!

  87. lisab says:

    “There are many many more “price points” and “options” in a free market”

    you are confused

    i had lots of choices

    and price points.

    far more than i ever had before. romneycare has greatly improved my choicesand care, albeit ata higher cost

    a cost which is well worth it

  88. Wylie E. Coyote says:

    #89 This is laughable, you simply cant tell the difference between a free market and a government-controlled one

    First, they only “choices” that you get under government-run market are those that technocrats and politicans permit – and those choices are always more expensive then what would exist in a free market!

    But thats the lie you promote: we havent had a free market in health care or health insurance for over 70 years

    So you are making a fictional comparision

    Also, you are factually incorrect in pronouncements since costs in MA for insurance has soared along with taxes, wait times have dramatically increased, options for care are being axed by government rationing boards, and massive job losses have occured

    I will give you trolls credit for being vigilant and trolling all night long though