Obama Leads GOP in CT, Shays Could Win Senate Seat

Jeb Bush, the man self-proclaimed conservatives want to ride in on a white horse in Tampa, has outed himself as a RINO and endorsed Mitt Romney. Welcome to the RINO Wagon Jeb!

This morning we have a new poll from Quinnipiac University for the state of Connecticut showing Mitt Romney leading the Republican field.

Mitt Romney 42%
Rick Santorum 19%
Newt Gingrich 13%
Ron Paul 9%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 53%
Mitt Romney (R) 37%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 55%
Rick Santorum (R) 35%

Meanwhile in the US Senate race, Republicans have a chance at this US Senate seat if they nominate Chris Shays.


Chris Murphy (D) 52%
Linda McMahon (R) 37%

Susan Bysiewicz (D) 49%
Linda McMahon (R) 39%

Linda McMahon (R) 43%
William Tong (D) 39%

Chris Murphy (D) 41%
Chris Shays (R) 40%

Chris Shays (R) 43%
Susan Bysiewicz (D) 42%

Chris Shays (R) 50%
William Tong (D) 25%

Of course, who do Republicans want as their nominee even though it is clear Chris Shays is the more electable nominee?

Linda McMahon 51%
Chris Shays 42%

Chris Murphy 37%
Susan Bysiewicz 25%
William Tong 4%

This poll was done March 14-19 among 1622 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 7:09 am
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319 Responses to “Obama Leads GOP in CT, Shays Could Win Senate Seat”

  1. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Good morning

  2. bio mom says:

    Reposting from earlier thread.

    At the end of the day, Santorum and Gingrich can run around like circus clowns with their etch a sketches but Romney still will have 560 delegates and a clear path to the nomination. The flip flopper attacks are nothing new against Romney, have been going on since 2007. Would still be even without the latest uproar. So how is that going to change anything? You underestimate the voters’ intelligence if you think they will now drop Romney to flee to Mr. Sanctimonious and Mr. Reprobate.

  3. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    I think Santorum is mentally ill and I’m not joking

    Newt is the quintessetial old fool who will not depart from public life until he has lost every last vestige of his dignity

    Both have disgraced and beclowned themselves to the nth degree

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    Shays can win? RINO. Nominate COD.

  5. hugh says:

    Quick Rush and Hanitty start bashing Shays, so we remain pure. The true conservative wins every single time.

  6. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Victory is for RINOs

    True conservatives wish for crushing defeat instead

  7. Rockefeller Republican says:

    Shays COULD win the seat…the problem is Simmons couldn’t beat McMahon the last time around in the primary. Wonder if Shays learned anything from Simmons’ loss???… Like how to raise a boatload of moola to hang w/ McMahon?

    Trivia time: Who was the last good Republican senator from the Nutmeg state? And Lowell Weicker doesn’t count as he was a not a good GOPer!

  8. SusyQue says:

    By Kyle Kondik and Larry J. Sabato

    Mitt Romney’s big win in the Illinois primary is not a game-changer, mainly because the likely outcome of the game — the race for the Republican presidential nomination — is the same today as it was Tuesday morning: Romney is the highly probable nominee. Romney can’t ignore the remaining contests, and he has to perform as expected or better. Yet what truly matters now is how Romney finishes out a tough season and prepares to push the re-set button at his convention. Will he limp or soar into Tampa? Republicans are tired of watching an unscathed Obama while GOP fratricide grabs the headlines, but that part of the process may be coming to a close.
    In the short term, Romney, the beneficiary of so many lucky breaks throughout this cycle, gets another little bonus on Saturday: While he is almost assuredly headed for a loss in the next primary on the schedule — Deep South Louisiana — the contest is being held on Saturday, when probably few will be paying attention. Another bonus: because of Louisiana’s complicated rules, only 20 delegates will be awarded Saturday anyway; so long as Romney gets over 25% — not a sure thing — Santorum will only pick up a few more delegates there than Romney. In other words, Louisiana, even if Romney bombs there, wouldn’t allow
    Santorum to cut very much into Romney’s big delegate lead.

  9. mnw says:


    From the previous thread:

    Are the polls still open?

    I vote yes on both bunny questions, if so.

  10. Joe Wilson says:

    we want etch a sketch

    no core, vending machine.

  11. mnw says:

    It’s hard to imagine how that aide could have said anything worse at a worse time.

  12. SusyQue says:

    Romney advisor says Mitt will shed his conservatism once he’s the nominee Rick Moran (A Lie With A straight face! my comment)

    Read more:

  13. addisonst says:

    The etch a sketch comment wasn’t a gaffe. I read that here so it must be true

  14. SusyQue says:

    This malicious dust-up will come back to hurt Sentorum and Gingrich. Why? Because it is a lie!

  15. BJ says:

    Sure Shays can win .. but won’t.

  16. Tim says:


  17. mnw says:

    I can’t see how you can call ‘Etch’ comment “a lie”– it was indisputably said by his communications director!

    What do you Kool Aid drinkers THINK it meant, out of curiosity?

  18. Wobbles says:

    More proof as to why there needs to be a brokered convention.

  19. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – The polls remain open (we use the St. Louis polling hours). Your votes have been tabulated.

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    Where is our Jeb Bush-lover today? Has he been here since Jeb endorsed Romney?

  21. bio mom says:

    It meant that the optics of the general election campaign are different then what is done in a primary, as has been true since politics began, including the campaign of St. Ronald Reagan. The over the top response of the righties strikes me as nothing more than sour grapes and a temper tantrum because their guy is going down. And the “lie” is saying that the aide said Romney would shed his conservatism. He did not. If Santorum were to be nominated and remained Petrus, the rock, he would lose in a blaze of glory but still lose. And he would move to the center too actually. He did plenty of compromising in the Senate.

  22. bio mom says:

    18: You truly are delusional.

  23. Wobbles says:

    The only ones with delisusion are the Romneybots. You will lose by 9 to President Obama even despite the high gasoline prices.

  24. Joe Wilson says:

    Wobbles says:
    March 22, 2012 at 8:48 am
    More proof as to why there needs to be a brokered convention.


    Republican poll: Sarah Palin more popular than Mitt Romney

    Read more:

  25. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Bio mom wobbles is a parody of Robbie

  26. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Mitt didn’t say it
    The shelf life of grown men waving a child’s toy in the air will be quite short I think

  27. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Joe Wilson is HD reincarnated I think

  28. bio mom says:

    This all dies away after today except for the deadenders (you know who you are). The sweet sixteen starts today. Also, even though it will be a win for Santorum in Louisiana Saturday, that will be the political story in Republican land not etch a sketch. One of the cartoons about this was actually pretty funny. Romney’s competitors are looking at an etch a sketch picture of Romney and shaking it. But it doesn’t disappear. The caption reads. He’s still there!.

  29. EML says:

    24 – you know who else is more popular with righties? Rush Limbaugh. And just like Palin, he is unelectable.

  30. Joe Wilson says:

    or, I could be Echo Eph

  31. Brandon says:


    Santorum: 43%
    Romney: 31%
    Gingrich: 16%
    Paul: 5%

  32. Barrett says:

    Did anyone else hold their nose and watch Rachel Maddow’s clip, attacking Romney on the basis of the etch-a-sketch comments?

    It shows how desperate people like her are, and how far they will go to make anything Romney says/does/things negative.

    She’s a sarcastic, snobby, and biased pundit.

  33. Joe Wilson says:

    Rush ? with 3 ex wives, he would be a shoe in. plus previous chemical dependencies. a sure winner.

  34. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    That looks about right brandon although I’m hoping Mitt closes a bit more

  35. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Maddow is unwatchable

    24/7/365 snark is difficult to do and she isn’t even close to successful at it

  36. EML says:

    32 – its expected from her. Whats really sad is that republicans and supposed conservatives are using the same line of attack against Romney that the leftiea are. Disgusting. I guess conservatives are making their bed with far left liberals like Maddow and Olbermann.

  37. Wobbles says:

    It appears that the Etch Sketch comment is ruining Romney in Louisiana. Watch Romney place 3rd.

  38. Bobby says:

    In fairness between Shays and McMahon…McMahon is a hardworker and has been crossing the state to get the nomination. Shays started a lot later so the numbers will move…but don’t underestimate McMahon’s work ethic.

  39. bio mom says:

    I will be really interested to see the Catholic vote Saturday. Louisiana is a pretty Catholic state and Santorum has been losing Catholics by 20 points (although probably not in the deep South). I know he wins there but it will be an interesting statistic to look at.

  40. Scott says:

    According to Ed Morrissey at Hot Air,yesterday,in a speech,Obama said that a barrel of oil is between $1.20 and $1.25 per gallon. It must have had a dramatic overnight spike since today,a barrel of oil on the futures market is over $106/ barrel!
    Imagine if W. or Palin had said this.

  41. SusyQue says:

    Creating social chaos:
    What some call a gaffe, I call a deliberate misinterpretation; cold, calculating, callous, hard hearted against a fellow republican.
    The truth is bearable, but a lie is unbearable. A liar has no peace, but a truth well spoken sets one free. Let your conscience be your guide.

  42. Barrett says:

    #36 – Yeah, that’s pretty disturbing. I really can’t stand the woman. Maddow and people like her are the reason that debates are never professional or civil

  43. DW says:

    Still waiting for Rasmussen to cough up a VA presidental matchup poll. Cannot imagine he polled the senate and didn’t bother to ask about Romney v. Obama

  44. Wobbles says:

    The $1.20 a barrel is not a gaffe. Etch a Sketch is a gaffe, however.

  45. Walt says:


    “57.#51…You just exposed yourself.

    Comment by SusyQue — March 21, 2012 @ 11:37 pm”
    What is the penalty for exposing yourself here on HHR?
    (either criminal or by HHR rules)************************************

  46. Joe Wilson says:

    SSQ exposes herself every day on HHR as an intellectual lightweight.

  47. Larry Craig says:

    Hold it. I’m an expert on these types of issues.

    being exposed to someone on HHR can be harmfum to the eyes

  48. Larry Craig says:

    meant to say harmful

  49. Larry Craig says:

    What was that, officer?

  50. Walt says:

    With my camera turned on I can see each one of you when you post.
    Bitter, you got a few cracker crumbs on the right side of your mouth…

    lisab, you really need to put your on when you are topless and posting late at night…

    MFG, the picture on the wall behind you is a little crooked…

  51. Joe Wilson says:

    Hi Wide Stance, what’s up ?

  52. Walt says:

    for lisab should have read…put your BRA on…

  53. SusyQue says:

    #46…Speak for yourself, ADD!
    We both want Mitt to be the nominee…so, what’s your problem?

  54. Walt says:

    If Joe Wilson yells “you lie” is a room full of politicians how do you know who he is talking to?

  55. Joe Wilson says:

    riddle me this SSQ-

    The man who invented it doesn’t want it. The man who bought it doesn’t need it. The man who needs it doesn’t know it. What is it?

  56. Joe Wilson says:

    SusyQue says:
    March 22, 2012 at 9:53 am
    #46…Speak for yourself, ADD!
    We both want Mitt to be the nominee…so, what’s your problem?

    apologize for calling me a petulant child and I will leave you alone.

  57. DW says:

    Romney has won four in a row, but the clowns won’t drop out even though the closest clown would have to jump from getting 24% thus far to getting 71% from here on out. I know, I know…logic and math are for RINOs.

    % won thus far
    7% Paul
    14% Newt
    24% Rick
    55% Mitt

    % needed from here on out
    85% Paul
    79% Newt
    71% Rick
    46% Mitt

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – you’re scaring me. Turn off the camera (but you can post the lisab photos).

  59. SoHope says:

    Joe Wilson could be Echo Eph??? YOU LIE!

  60. Joe Wilson says:

    Obama’s labor dept. seeks to kill the family farm

    For generations children and adults have worked together on the family farm.
    Those days are over.

    Senators John Thune (R-S.D.) and Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) today introduced the Preserving America’s Family Farm Act, to prevent the Department of Labor (DOL) from enacting its controversial proposed restrictions that would ban children from working on family farms.

    Senator Thune spoke out against the Obama Administration’s proposed labor rules for youth who work on farms and ranches on the Senate floor

  61. Joe Wilson says:

    SoHope says:
    March 22, 2012 at 10:01 am
    Joe Wilson could be Echo Eph??? YOU LIE!

    don’t blow my cover Dr. Hope

  62. Tim says:

    I will pay decent money to stop the posting of photos of lisab on here.

    My stomach is not that strong……..

  63. Tim V says:

    Tim, I second that motion !

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry, Tim. It was a bad idea. I get lonely here since MD left.

  65. DW says:

    61…wow, Don’t let my kids see that story, they will jump on board so they can get out of dusting and vacuuming chores around the house. Where does this madness that is Obama end? Hopefully next January.

    Fortunately farms are, well, rural, and I don’t see how the government will have inspectors standing next to each tractor to check the ages of the workers.

    I grew up on a family farm, and if you weren’t driving a tractor by the time you were 10, you were a sissy. I have never ONCE known of a kid who grew up on a family farm who had to take Driver’s ed in high school. It was the good life.

  66. SoHope says:

    So let me get this straight…When Obama is reelected over Santorum by a landslide and the resulting destruction of the GOP by the bailing of fiscal cons and libertarians (all saying told you so) we can look back and say it all happened when some guy that works for Romney made an comment about an etch-a-sketch and ruined his chances in the primary.

  67. DW says:

    I missed this whole etch a sketch thing…can someone give me the reader’s digest condensed version?

  68. SoHope says:

    Joe, Coffin…right? and no I didn’t google

  69. Annie says:

    Maddisonst – You called me a “sycophant” – Do you know the meaning of the word? It means a “parasite,” a “lackey,” or a “bootlicker.” I do not think any of those terms relate to me simply because I see the writing on the wall that Romney is going to be the nominee. Do I think Romney is the most qualified person of the four GOP contenders to be president? You bet I do. At this point, Santorum and Gingrich are just hurting the GOP for the fall election. Their continued use of an “etch-a-sketch” as a prop is not only childish, it’s just prolonging a bad use of metaphor (not even by the candidate) that should have been put aside by now. All candidates move to the middle for a general election, in every general election. If by calling me a “sycophant” you are trying to state your opinion that I am in the tank for Romney – then you would be correct, sir. I am certainly not supporting those goof-balls Santorum and Gingrich.

  70. Bitterlaw says:

    SoHope – If Santorum is the nominee, I will vote for him but I know several people who would vote for Romney who will not join me at the polls.

  71. SoHope says:

    I think the etch-a-sketch story is a non-story that Santorum/Newt/MSM are bending over backward use to slow Romney’s momentum.

    If it was from Romney, himself then we would have a problem.

  72. SusyQue says:

    #57…OK…I am sorry I called you a petulant child. I have no hard feelings toward you nor any other person on HHR. I admit I am a novice when it comes to politics, but I am not a novice when it comes to discerning a person’s character. Reading the great classics is all about the commonalities of the human condition. I could say more, but it is time to feed my kitties who wait outside my door every morning.

  73. bio mom says:

    They say that now but wait until Obama gets going in the fall. Many will change their minds I believe.

  74. Joe Wilson says:

    thank you Susy. I am sorry too. You are a nice person. God bless you.

  75. Annie says:

    68 – DW – A senior advisor to Romney was interviewed a few nights ago on CNN (or was it MSNBC?) and said, when asked if Romney had gone too far to the right for the primaries to come back to the middle for a general election, that after the primaries ALL nominees will move to the middle, because that is where elections are won – that it is like an “etch-a-sketch” in which the lines of the primary are shook-up, and the candidates start all over again with a different kind of campaign with different tactics. Santorum, Gingrich, and super-liberals jumped on the metaphor as symbolic of Romney changing his mind through the years. They are putting forward the notion that Romney says he’s a conservative now, but he’ll flip-flop to a moderate in the fall.

  76. SoHope says:

    Bitter, I will too of course. His opinions of most social issues line up with mine. However some of the things he is saying to win the primary are just that…things to win the primary, and will kill him in a general election.

    Santorum would make the election about him and about social issues. It needs to be about the economy/obama.

    I would guess 20% of the GOP and GOP friendly indies would either vote obama or sitout in disgust. A Santorum primary win is handing Obama the 2nd term.

  77. Tim V says:

    the etch a sketch gaffe will soon pass. wins by romney in wisconsin and pa will deliver the knock out blows to santo.

  78. DaveyJ says:

    71– I know a few people who say they could vote for Santorum (or Gingrich), but they could never vote for Romney. I say they are idiots.

    Please join me and say the same about anyone who would not vote for any GOP nominee (except Paul, of course).

  79. EML says:

    So Paul and Romney are teaming up to snatch all the delegates away from Santorum in the MO caucuses? Can this actually work?

  80. Larry Craig says:

    #71 – I can’t join you in the polls for Santorum. But it’s an irrelevant matter because I wont have to. I’m confident that Mitt wins the nomination.

  81. DW says:

    73…that was good. I encourage everyone to click on that link and read it.

  82. Addisonst says:

    The Hall Monitor can’t distinguish Corey v. Kommie Kory, needs everything explained to her and yet deduces somehow that I am Joe Wilson. I sort of thought she was going there last night when Joe mentioned me in a post.

    I am no more Joe Wilson than I am Derek Rose. Say it ain’t so Joe.

    Annie, your posts are an endless stream of Romney is flawless drivel. He is better than anybody else in the race. But he’s a terrible candidate, the etch a sketch thing was stupid (the only issue is whether it does tiny damage or actually hurts the Mitt brand). You are constantly apologizing for any mistakes Romney makes. You cite him as the only job creator. Well guess what, the president doesn’t create jobs.

    Facebook is creating more jobs than any President can. I voted for Romney Tuesday but at least I can see what a poor choice he is. You choose to blame the market every time he loses a primary instead of the product. That is a sycophant.

  83. Larry Craig says:

    #81 – The MO caucuses are still going on? What the hell is wrong with that state?

    For the “show me” state, it sure has a funny way of showing its results.

  84. Tim V says:

    I believe that once Romney is the nominee, almost all GOPers will support him. Some with not a lot of enthusiam, but they will vote for him.

  85. DaveyJ says:

    This really concerns me:
    With Romney, we already know that we are giving up the Obamacare issue, but now appartently we will also surrender the high gas price issue:

    When Governor, Mitt Romney also was favorable to higher gas prices… because they would lead to more fuel efficiency.

  86. Barrett says:

    Whoops, keep forgetting to change my name

  87. Joe Wilson says:

    Add is correct. I am NOT Add.

  88. NYCmike says:

    “I could say more, but it is time to feed my kitties who wait outside my door every morning.”

    I like your world! God Bless You!

  89. Barrett says:

    #87 – Of course it does. You give into the media and hear only what you want to hear.

  90. Joe Wilson says:

    Dr. SoHope knows who I am but he has sworn to protect my identity.

  91. Bitterlaw says:

    I know some people want to think that Santtorum will not scare away women and Independents in a General Election but I disagree. I also do not believe that just because a person is pro-choice or wants free birth control that they are evil. I disagree with them but I am tired of everybody being painted as good or bad. Sometimes people just disagree.

  92. SoHope says:

    DaveyJ, what about the 64% of Americans that aren’t Republicans…When those “idiots” say that Santorum is too extreme what do we call them? RINOs? Not true conservatives? Liberals? Obama voters?

    That is were the election will be won or lost. Santorum, Newt, and the MSM are working overtime to make sure the GOP nomination is worthless in August-November.

    You guys are doing your part and should be proud.

  93. TheColonel,intheSTUDY,withtheWRENCH says:

    “69.Joe, Coffin…right? and no I didn’t google”

  94. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe that once Romney is the nominee, almost all GOPers will support him. – Tim V.

    I agree but we need the Indies, too.

  95. SusyQue says:

    #87…Romney is not a Gov. of Mass. now. Dear me, that was in
    Governor of Massachusetts, 2003–2007! Circumstances are different!

  96. Rev Wright says:

    The REAL etch-a-sketch gaffe is my boy Barack who sat in my congregation for 20 years, yellin’ and clappin’ and his wife hollerin’ all kinds of anti-whitey stuff, but once Barack got the nomination…SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE goes the etch-a-sketch, and he suddenly don’t want to know me no more! From all I can tell them JOOOOS invented the etch-a-sketch and were holding it for Barack when started a-shakin’ it.

  97. Addisonst says:

    I believe that once Romney is the nominee, almost all GOPers will support him. Some with not a lot of enthusiam, but they will vote for him.

    Comment by Tim V — March 22, 2012 @ 10:27 am

    Tim V, there is a disconnect here at HHR. There are a lot of people who think that the desire to defeat s4b will lead to a default Romney vote.

    I happen to think that’s false. I think the risk that people will abstain who lean gop or “conservative” is very real.

    People voted for Nader instead of Gore. They don’t think binary. They think about the issues they are passionate about. And if somebody thinks Romney isn’t sufficiently conservative enough on their issue, whatever that issue might be, they will stay home. It doesn’t matter if you say to them “Obama will be worse on SCOTUS than Romney” If they think Romney is pro choice or not truly pro life than they sit out. This board dismisses those who tie romney and obamacare as similar as absurd. I think the left is going to do a very good job of nullifying Romney’s attacks on Obamacare as not credible. Romney IMHO is going to have to win on other issues. Spending, energy, defense, the size of government in non health care areas since he favors government involvement in health care, etc.

  98. NYCmike says:

    #93- Law school made you a squish. No Philly a-hole would ever be this reasonable!
    Go KNICKS!

  99. Joe Wilson says:

    can’t we all get along bitterlaw explains his everthing is grey mentality. I say NO. What seems grey is most likely BLACK masquerading as grey. Let’s call evil what is IS, EVIL.

    take a side. good or evil. there is no grey.

  100. Bobby says:

    Rasmussen VA
    Obama 51%
    Romney 42%

    Obama 53%
    Santorum 38%

  101. Wobbles says:

    It is over, that Rasmussen poll is very alarming. We will lose by an even worse margin than McCain.

  102. Tim V says:

    Add, I think the hatred for Obama’s policies will easilly outweigh the doubts about Romney’s conservative credentials. So, we disagree.

  103. Bitterlaw says:

    Joe Wilson – you lie. Is Sandra Fluke a slut because she wants free birth control? No. She is annoying and a thief but maybe she wants it because she has had a relationship with one man for 5 years. I don’t know. Birth control does not automatically mean promiscuous behavior.

  104. Apologetic California says:

    102, If that number is true, then this is over.

  105. Bitterlaw says:

    I know a woman who spends her weekends delivering food to homeless shelters and she is also pro-choice. Is she evil or just wrong on one issue?

  106. hugh says:

    Its about time for all of us to agree to disagree. ADD if a part of the right wing of the republican party sits home and lets O win, then we are truly doomed. I hope we can all be adults, but apparently some in our party are not capable. IMO which at this point will not change, Santorum will surely lose, by a large margin, Newt, might do better, maybe with some really really lousy economic news he might win. However, if this nomination fight goes on much longer with Santorum and Gingrich choosing to mainly bash Romney versus distinguishing themselves on the weight of the arguments for fixing things and bashing Obama we will lose all the same. At least Romney was able man up and drop out once he saw it was very likely he would lose the nomination. These other two are showing they are not of strong timber on the character front or love of country.

  107. Barrett says:

    #104 – You are not allowed to disagree. You must insult each other until one is upset and leaves.

    I don’t make the rule. It is the HHR way

  108. Rev Wright says:

    I wouldn’t pay any attention to any polls from VA until we get closer to the convention. There are still some raw feelings here in VA from Rick and Newt supporters because their candidate was too lazy to get the sigs needed to get on the ballot. There are still many things that can turn this around for a Mitt win in VA. I still stick to my guns that in the end Mitt wins VA 52/47.

  109. Addisonst says:

    Tim V,

    It’s certainly possible you are correct. Months ago, I totally agreed with your position. I have watched his approval rating, h2h matchup w Mitt and his intrade numbers jump.

    I know Mitt will get a bounce when he is done with this noise and Santorum isn’t dragging him down to his level. But there are people who opt out despite their dislike for the president. The only question is how many.

  110. DW says:

    oops…111 was supposed to be from me, not Rev Wright

  111. Wobbles says:

    It is Romney’s fault that he has failed to end this disaster. his failure will ensure defeat in November.

  112. SusyQue says:

    #90…NYCmike…Thanks for the blessing…it is refreshing after all the put downs! (:-) Have you sold your house yet?

  113. SoHope says:

    Romney won’t lose votes to the right but Santorum will lose tons of votes to the left.

  114. Joe Wilson says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 22, 2012 at 10:42 am
    I know a woman who spends her weekends delivering food to homeless shelters and she is also pro-choice. Is she evil or just wrong on one issue?

    evil, masquerading as good. a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

  115. Barrett says:

    #117 – I hope you aren’t serious

  116. DW says:

    116…Santorum wont lose any votes to the right or left, or middle, because he won’t be on the ballot in November.

  117. Scott says:

    If Obama is so far ahead in VA,then how did the Republicans romp in the State the last few elections?
    Also,how does one reason with the 12 point swing between Allen and Romney?
    Do we have any VA experts on this thread?

  118. Addisonst says:

    Tim V when you talk about a choice, you continue to make it binary. There are people who don’t think that way. On the left they voted for Nader over Gore.

    There are people that actually think like the Dingle cartoon.

  119. Addisonst says:

    btw, it works on the left too.

    We all agree that the #’s for s4b from the black community aren’t going to be as large on a raw vote basis as they were last time. He’ll still get his 95% but of a smaller #. Those that don’t vote this time aren’t thinking about the fact that they are saying Mitt is OK.

  120. Bitterlaw says:

    You are not allowed to disagree. You must insult each other until one is upset and leaves. – Barrett

    I forgot the rules. Thank you for reminding me, you pathetic mf-er.

  121. SusyQue says:

    Annie…I look forward to and enjoy every one of your posts! I appreciate and share your passion of wanting Romney as the next president of the USA. He’s a well balanced gentleman who knows how to get things done in a methodical way.

  122. SoHope says:

    Politics is all shade of gray (or purple).

    Romney can fight Obamacare easily.

    #1 one is constitutional the other is not.

    #2 one is wildly popular the other is not

    #3 one was passed on with the support of both parties the other was not

    #4 one raids medicare…the other does not

    #5 one actually doesn’t affect me as a North Carolinian…the other does

    #6 one can evaded easily by moving to another state…the other can not

  123. Gpo says:

    If those va #s are correct Mcdonell will be vp

  124. Barrett says:

    #123 – My pleasure!

  125. Barrett says:

    Romney in Lousiania

    3/10 – Polled 21%
    3/19 – Polled 24%
    Today- Polled 31%

    To the moon, Alice!

  126. DW says:

    120…I am a VA expert. I am surprised by the Rasmussen results. Based on the Allen race, I would have predicted that they would have had Romney/Obama about tied.

    Hurting Romney in VA right now are these factors:

    1) Newt and Rick supporters have a lot of sour grapes–they could NOT even write in their names. The touch screens had two options Mitt or Paul. That’s it. Cast your vote and go home. That irritated the Newt and Rick supporters, and so I think these are slow to say they are voting Mitt in these polls. This problem will go away by November.

    2) The economy has not been as bad in VA as the rest of the country.

    3) Yes, we McDonnell tromped Deeds in 2009 for Gov, and we got THREE, almost four house seats in 2010 to flip to the GOP and last year we captured the state senate even though the dems drew the lines. This momentum will be sufficent to carry us through the POTUS race.

    4) There is nowhere near the enthusiasm for Obama as there was four years ago. I am speaking about the most populous part of the state, southeast VA.

    5) Damaging the GOP right now a little in Hampton Roads is the battle over new tolls on bridges and tunnels. Because the dems would not use tax money for roads, bridges and tunnels when they were in power, now the GOP is leading and have to do something to get money for these needed projects. Everybody hates tolls, and the GOP is on the hook for this unpopular decision right now. Hopefully this will fade away by november.

    6) If all else fails, and Romney feels he MUST have VA, then the veep will be Gov. McDonnell. He won’t make VA a landslide, but easily could grab 4 or 5 additional % points. This is a proud state, with a history of presidents like Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Tyler, etc., and VA would love to add to this list.

  127. SoHope says:

    There is no way that #117 is nothing more than a bad joke…

    With that same logic Ronald Reagan was evil…Rick Santorum’s wife was evil by association…Rick Santorum himself on his first run for the House said his abortion views were evil.

  128. bio mom says:

    Romney meeting with Jim DeMint today. DeMint says it is only a friendly meeting.

  129. Phil says:

    Without Virginia, hard to see how we get to 270. The math just isn’t there.

    The RAS poll confirming PPP is horrible news. I thought Romney could do better than McCain in NOVA. Obviously not the case.

  130. Joe Wilson says:

    this guy did some good things too. was he good or evil ?

  131. Scott says:

    How has the “noise” from the ultrasound controversy affected the Presidential race?

  132. SoHope says:

    I guess everyone is eeeeeeeviiiiiiiilllll!

  133. Tim V says:

    the wheats and the tares. sometimes it’s hard to tell the diffence until harvest time.

  134. SusyQue says:

    #2…bio mom…Go-Go-Go…I thoroughly enjoy your take on this
    roller coaster primary. You ALWAYS hit the nail on the head!

  135. DW says:

    135…it might be a factor…hard to say. Not followed that issue as closely.

  136. Annie says:

    Maddisonst – I picked Romney out as the best choice for this election cycle, of all the various candidate choices, early in 2011. It is a matter of experience and even superficial things like looks and age. I stated that for this particular election cycle, the best candidate would have a strong economic background, executive experience (a governor), be tall with hair (not white hair), have no skeletons or ex-wives in the past, be reasonably articulate, etc. As no other governors came forward to run, or quickly left the race, only Romney remained. I have never said that Romney is perfect, but he is the best for this cycle. And if portions of the GOP electorate keep pointing out his flaws, rather than stressing his good points, we will have a really hard time defeating Obama in November. I do not blame the people who vote against Romney, because I can also see why evangelicals would not vote for a Mormon (though why they would support a member of Opus Dei is beyond me) or why people might think Gingrich has more “true conservatism” than someone who governed in a very blue state (though Gingrich’s Freddie Mac history, multiple-wife-cheating, breakfasts at Tiffany’s, and support of a personal health mandate for people making over $50,000/year don’t seem particularly “conservative to me). (1) Santorum is whiny, lost his senate seat by a big margin, is sanctimonious and judgmental (too much a social conservative), has no executive experience, and was a big earmarker – thus, a bad choice, worse than Romney. (2) Gingrich is grumpy, a former congressman from one small Georgia district, has shocking white hair (remember the criteria), a closet full of rattling skeletons, hasn’t been in congress for over a dozen years, sat on a sofa with Nancy, etc, etc – thus, a worse choice than Romney. (3) Ron Paul is old, cranky, from the House, and has a foreign policy philosophy that some in the GOP find quaint at best – and will not get elected – period. I am a pragmatic realist. No candidate is perfect. We must work with what we’ve got. And the best we have this time out is Romney. If the GOP wants to win – the name of the game – then, the bullcr*p must end. And end ASAP.

  137. Barrett says:

    #132 – If Romney didn’t get virginia, he’d have to pick up:

    New Hampshire

    and then steal 1 vote from Maine

  138. Tim V says:

    136- exactly. it’s adams fault. we are born in sin and deceitfully wicked.

  139. Barrett says:

    Correction to my post #141 – He’d have to pick up North Carolina as well

  140. Tim V says:

    There was a man who rode in a motorized wheelchair with a sign that said, “I’m brain damaged, what’s your excuse ? “

  141. Annie says:

    Maddisonst – Romney can beat Obama if he sticks to economics, his forte. This election cycle is all about the economy and Obama’s awful handling of just about every aspect of governing.

  142. Phil says:

    Having to have Nevada, Iowa, NH and one vote out of Maine just isn’t going to happen.

    The Va poll is VERY discouraging.

  143. Scott says:

    #132- Phil
    Ras has confirmed the Quinnipiac Poll,not PPP.
    I pooh-poohed the Qiunn Poll because it showed Democrats going for Obama by 97& to 2% which seemed unrealistic.
    Maybe Bobby can give us the Party ID crosstabs and data.

  144. DW says:

    “132.Without Virginia, hard to see how we get to 270. The math just isn’t there.”

    1) I believe in the end Romney gets VA 52/47

    2) If for sake of argument, Romney does not get VA due to local circumstances taking the state out of the GOP column, it doesn’t mean the rest of the battleground states go in lock step. There are always anomalies like this with particular states. Lots of ways Romney gets the win without VA:

    WI + IA = VA with 3 to spare
    CO + NV = VA with 2 to spare
    PA = VA with 7 to spare
    IA + NV + one from ME = VA
    CO + IA = VA with 2 to spare
    WI + NV = VA with 3 to spare

    Lots of ways it could work out, without involving states like NM, MN, MI, OR.

  145. DaveyJ says:

    129– DW, I’m not a Romney supporter, but I concur with what you are saying. I recently had a 2-hour heart-to-heart talk with a friend’s husband — a guy who literally works for the Republican Party. We went over the key states, one by one, so I could pick his brain over what the “inside” view is on our chances. This guy gave me a Joe Namath guarantee that Romney will win both Indiana and Virginia. He felt almost as certain that Santorum would win either of them. He’s almost (but not quite) as certain about North Carolina.

    I think your point #1 is the key factor. With all of these matchup polls, to make their GOP opponent look bad, supporters of one GOP candidate will often “say” they will vote for Obama over their GOP opponent, but in reality, they know they could never do that.

  146. Phil says:

    Scott, You are right. I stand corrected.

    It’s just math – the Va electorate is 20% black in a presidential year. All for Obama. Add the thousands of white government workers in NOVA and the coalition puts Obama over the top.

    I always said Virginia would be tough. These polls indicate it’s more than tough.

  147. Tim V says:

    MANHATTAN — A call girl working for alleged “Millionaire Madam” Anna Gristina told investigators she was paid to have sex with former U.S. Sen. John Edwards when he was in New York raising money for his failed presidential bid, DNAinfo has learned.

    Edwards is the first big name to surface in connection to Gristina’s alleged prostitution scheme run out of an Upper East Side apartment

    Read more:

  148. SoHope says:

    Any GOP insider that thinks that VA will be easier to win than NC is an idiot.

  149. Phil says:

    The MSM did a great job covering up for John Edwards.

    They are a disgrace.

  150. Phil says:

    NC flips before Va. All you need to do is compare the margins in 2008.

  151. DW says:

    DaveyJ…thanks for your post. All I can say is what’s on the ground here…just compare the differeces I saw at gas stations…in 2008 here in Hampton Roads cities, you would see people all smiley to total strangers saying “Yes we can!” Now at gas stations total strangers are raging about the gas prices and we gotta get rid of Obama or we are doomed. There is a lot that will happen between now and November, and in the end VA will go to Romney.

  152. Waingro says:

    The VA polls are definitely discouraging, but let’s see what they say in about 2-3 months when Romney (hopefully) will be vetting VP candidates.

    If he’s still outside the margin of error in terms of a deficit to Barry in VA, then McDonnell becomes the ONLY choice as far as I’m concerned.

    DW’s analysis, as always, gives me hope nonetheless.

  153. Barrett says:

    #152 – It’s possible Romney picks up NC and not VA. I was pointing out a winning scenario for Romney which excluded VA for arguments sake.

    In all honesty, I believe Romney carries both NC and VA

  154. Annie says:

    108 – Hugh – The reason that Santorum and Gingrich refuse to put the good of the GOP over their egos lies in their coming from the Senate and House – people from Congress make horrible executives, as a rule (unless they were once governors). They whine and bicker each and every day, pontificate endlessly. Pride and animus go hand-in-hand for these people. Still having very rich backers in their PACS allows them to continue. However, if they keep up the dissing of the obvious future nominee, they will become pariahs within the GOP.

  155. Bitterlaw says:

    Barrett – I didn’t realize that Virginia had over 60 EVs. Yur list to just replace Virginia was huge.

  156. Rockefeller Republican says:

    Trivia answer:

    Q: Who was the last good Republican senator from Connecticut?

    A: Prescott Bush (Bush-41’s papa) who served 1952-62.

    Either Shays or McMahon would do well.

  157. SoHope says:

    “LA City Council Close To Resolution Barring Radio Hosts From ‘Racist, Sexist’ Comments…”

    Breaking: All LA Rap/Hip Hop/R&B radio stations are switching formats to polka music in an attempt to keep from going bankrupt by the looming radio law.

  158. Waingro says:

    #102, btw Bobby where did you get those Ras VA numbers from? It’s not on or referenced on his site or on twitter or facebook.

    It’s not on RCP yet either.

    Was this a premium account email or something?

  159. Annie says:

    DW – I enjoyed your electoral math – though I think WI going red is a long-shot. VA would probably go red before Wisconsin.

  160. Barrett says:

    #159 – Didn’t you hear Bitter? Everyone’s moving south from MD and PA into VA.

    But in all seriousness, I believe I misspoke in my post. I presented a winning scenario for Romney without Virginia, that was all.

  161. DaveyJ says:

    94. Santorum, Newt, and the MSM are working overtime to make sure the GOP nomination is worthless in August-November. You guys are doing your part and should be proud.
    Comment by SoHope — March 22, 2012 @ 10:32 am

    Dumb, dumb, dumb!
    It is true that the long primary campaign has severely damaged Romney’s favorability ratings, as he’s now seriously “underwater” in favorability versus unfavorabiility. But honestly, what did Santorum and Gingrich (and their supporters) have to do with that?

    Mitt Romney is unpopular because of Mitt Romney. No one forced him to go nasty negative on his opponents by a 5:1 margin, effectively “carpet bombing” his opponents with negative ads. He did that by his own choice. And no one forced him to say he “likes firing people”, he’s “no worried about the very poor”, “corporations are people”, and “I’ll bet you $10,000”. His out-of-touch Thurston Howell III image is his own doing.

    So don’t look at us, Mitt’s opponents, for his problems with favorability. Look at your own candidate.

  162. Bobby says:

    Sorry guys, it is Premium right now.

    Its R+3

    Indies are +20 to Obama though…

  163. Barrett says:

    #166 – Indies are +20 to Obama? I have a difficult time with that.

    In VA, if indies went for Obama, I would think 55 to 45 at best

  164. Waingro says:

    #166, ok, thanks. There is no way Barry is gonna get 20% of “indies” in Virginia. I refuse to believe it.

  165. DW says:

    I think there is realy value in the CO + NV = VA plan. The polling that we have for both CO and NV is limited, but what we have show both of those states being very competitive. Once Romney gets the nomination and the clowns are gone, I would expect him to poll even better in most states, and would not at all be surprised to see him do well in CO and NV.

  166. SusyQue says:


  167. SoHope says:

    Romney was hurt b/c he attacked Santorum??? uuuh no, he was hurt because Santorum & Newt attacked him.

    When your enemy attack people don’t believe it. But when your friends attack it you do.

    Obama would never be able to make the case that Romneycare = Obamacare, but now thanks to Santorum and crew he may be able to.

    Santorum is also trying to block Romney from competing for the center in the GE. It seems to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Santorum would rather be right than for Romney to be able to win.

  168. SusyQue says:

    #165…There you go again….5:1 carpet bombing. It’s always Romney’s wealth that irks those that have less. The envy is overwhelming!

  169. MFG says:

    I had the most surreal experience about ten years or so ago that the Joe Wilson post in 134 brought back to me

    I was in a local shop ordering donuts or something and the clerk was an elderly lady with the thickest German accent you can imagine

    We got to talking and it turns out she was a young lady in Hitler’s Germany and she proceeded to tell me how Hitler was misunderstood and had done a fantastic job of combating unemployment in Germany, she thought he had been a fantastic domestic leader for Germany

    Blew me away

    Hadn’t thought about that in years till I read the above

  170. Annie says:

    DaveJ –

    You have taken so much out of context, you must watch MSNBC daily.

    (1) I like firing people, too, who do not provide the best service. That is what is great about our market economics in the USA – you can fire a bad service provider. And that was the completed thought that Romney said.

    (2) Romney was stating that the very poor have safety nets that he can fix, the rich have income and can provide for themselves, that he was especially concerned with the middle-income Americans losing ground. Of course, he phrased it all wrong, and should have added that he wants all Americans to have opportunities for success – I chalk it up to being tired after winning a primary the night before.

    (3) Corporations are people – people run them, people own them, people invest in them, people benefit from them. Corporations are businesses built by people with ideas and provide jobs to thousands.

    (4) If he had bet $10, he would seem like he didn’t have faith in what he was saying. Admittedly, it was an odd choice of amount, but how many times do we poor schmucks say, “I’ll bet you a million dollars”? Really, much ado about nothing.

    (5) Yeah, Romney is a rich guy, and I’m glad he spends his money more than mine. I don’t recall too many “poor” presidents. Do you really want some unsuccessful person as president, who doesn’t know how to manage an economy?

    (6) My BMW costs more than one of Ann Romney’s Caddies. And she has the money to buy several BMWs.

    (7) The Mutt and Jeff show of Santorum and Gingrich is not only tearing Romney down (liar, liar, pants on fire), but making the GOP brand look bad, rigid, and petty.

  171. EML says:

    How come people dont like santorum enough to give him money?

  172. SoHope says:

    Joe Wilson:

    Millionaires = Good

    Billionaires = Bad

  173. Annie says:

    191 – SoHope – You are right.

  174. Annie says:

    Make that 171 – SoHope…

  175. Barrett says:

    I hereby nominate post #174 by Annie as post of the day.

    Each point well made, well defended

  176. Apologetic California says:

    The only state Obama is certain to lose is Indiana, with North Carolina a close second. I’d put Florida as the third one. Obviously, not enough.

  177. bio mom says:

    I read somewhere that Virginia always elects a president of the opposite party from their current governor. Does that hold true? They would go Obama if so.

  178. SoHope says:

    If Santorum is so good and wholesome then why is the millionaire so stingy?

    If Romney is so rotten then why is he so generous with his own money?

  179. SusyQue says:

    #181…bio mom…don’t believe that. This is an unusual time in our country’s history.

  180. MFG says:

    This needs to end ASAP

    SweaterVest and ZooBoy have to get out

  181. SusyQue says:

    Hugh Hewitt’s Wisdom
    Change that basic choice or that basic dynamic of campaign 2012.

    So “Etch-a-Sketch” joins a long line of phrases like “leading from behind,” “bet you $10,000,” 57 states, two Cadillacs, “Chuck, stand up there Chuck,” and scores of others which line the memory hallways of political reporters and especially columnists looking for copy. Ohio Art thanks Eric for calling attention to their long ignored forerunner to the iPad, and the Team Romney speechwriters will certainly be scribbling “the president wishes this were an etch-a-sketch campaign in which his record of the past three years could be erased so easily…” a few dozen times between now and November.

    But the hand-wringing! Jeb Bush steps into the ring to stop the fight and declare a TKO, and even the Manhattan-Beltway media elites are declaring “[a]n air of inevitability grows around Romney after decisive primary win,” but victims of the Zombie narrative rushed off to embrace Etch-a-Sketch as an excuse for one last road trip on the boss’s dime.

    It has been Obama-Romney since the Florida primary, and it is still Romney-Obama after this minor flap, and it will be Obama-Romney after the next gaffe on either side. Yes, there is a quasi-Sports Illustrated jinx developing around Romney primary wins, so the former Massachusetts governor is due for the biggest gaffe of all on November 7 given the president’s mounting political woes. A meme is already fully developed that will follow President Romney through his White House years –the “gaffe prone Romney” Like President Bush and malapropisms, and Slow Joe Biden, the Gold medalist of awkward, this is the sort of neo-charming trait that doesn’t matter when it comes down to voting on the future of the country.

    But writers gotta write and commentators have to say something when the clip is played, so for a few days it will be Fehrnstrom-on-a-spit, and then it too will fade as the pressing realities of a country in fiscal and national security peril reassert themselves.

    There will be more stumbles on both sides, but the election will come down to the president’s abysmal record and the path he has put the country on and Romney’s demand that we make a U-turn. A pile of Etch-a-Sketches as high as the national debt wouldn’t change that basic choice or that basic dynamic of campaign 2012.

  182. Bitterlaw says:

    No one forced him to go nasty negative on his opponents by a 5:1 margin, effectively “carpet bombing” his opponents with negative ads

    I always wonder why telling the truth about how somebody voted or what they said is “negative.”

  183. DW says:

    I read somewhere that there never has been two #2 seeds lose to #15 seeds in the same NCAA tournament. This should be a great comfort to Duke and Missouri.

  184. NYCmike says:

    115.#90…NYCmike…Thanks for the blessing…it is refreshing after all the put downs! (:-) Have you sold your house yet?

    -My house is for sale? My wife REALLY is mad that I spend so much time here!??!

  185. Phil says:

    The exits had indies splitting right down the middle in Va, 2008. I don’t exactly understand their massive break to Obama in this poll. Scratching my head as to the reason so many McCain independents would now vote for Obama this time. Makes no sense. Can’t think of a logical reason.

  186. Annie says:

    Did VA elect GW Bush when Jim Gilmore was governor? VA elected Obama while Tim Kaine was governor…So, the theory about electing an opposite party as president doesn’t hold up.

  187. Annie says:

    How about the gaffes of Obama continually mispronouncing what is on his teleprompter, or reading from the teleprompter the Irish PM’s speech as if it were his own for almost 5 minutes before he caught the error?

  188. bio mom says:


    Think it is strange for a state to allow only one term for its governor.

  189. Annie says:

    Let’s all salute the military’s “Corpsemen.”

  190. Barrett says:

    #184 – Why do we call him ZooBoy. I’ve heard fat toad and man child

  191. janz says:

    Have been scanning all the comments on this thread. Feisty and good content describe most of them. One of the best forum exchanges here for some time, IMO!

    #129 DW — great VA analysis, but then that seem to be your forte.

    #128 Barrett — I’ve been noticing, too, that Romney is gaining significant polling ground in LA: 21 to 24 now @ 31 in the latest Ras poll. I doubt he will win here. But, Romney is definitely becoming more competitive, and will haul in a good number of delegates, leaving Santorum to only crow about the “win,” and little else.

    #140 & #174 Annie, well put together posts, cogent with logical points.

    Earlier in the campaign I begrudgingly backed Romney as the best of a lousy field. Now, I am more enthusiastic for him, doing extensive back ground reading which has given me an opportunity to see how many of his so-called ‘flaws’ and ‘flip-flops’ are more a far right/liberal left misreading of the circumstances surrounding his actions, or even the actions themselves.

  192. bio mom says:

    Maybe the theory was that in the next gubernatorial contest Virginia elects the governor from the party not holding the presidency. Does that hold up? I know I heard something like this. Thus McDonnell elected when Obama is president and Kaine elected when Bush was president etc.

  193. DW says:

    Obama no doubt still roots for the Penn State Nitally Lions.

  194. Annie says:

    How about Obama’s goof-up in telling a Congressional black caucus dinner that he “didn’t want billionaires taxed at the same tax rate as a Jew.”

  195. MFG says:

    FatToad loves zoos

    Wherever he campaigns he goes to the local zoo

  196. janz says:

    MFG —> “SweaterVest and ZooBoy” —> priceless!

  197. MFG says:

    I need a sense of humor nowadays Janz as do we all

    How is CA treating you today?

  198. Annie says:

    Remember when Obama said this to Jay Leno: “No, no. I have been practicing. … I bowled a 129. it’s like—it was like Special Olympics, or something.”

  199. Annie says:

    “You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them … And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

  200. SusyQue says:

    #188…perhaps it was someone else who wrote about selling his house. Posting and reading on HHR is addictive. How about a hug and and a kiss for the wife along with some conversation.

  201. Annie says:

    Hi Ho – It’s off to work I go. Check-in with everyone later –

  202. janz says:

    The etch a sketch meme will hang around for a while because the MSM, DNC, liberal left and Santorum/Gingrich supporters won’t allow it to ebb.

    Just the combination of names above, those who want Romney to fail, should give people a clue about who the strongest and most competitive GOP candidate really is. The fact that Santorum/Gingrich supporters are literally becoming enablers, or even cohorts, of their opponents, in their attempts to discredit Romney because of trivial campaign missteps, is telling in how unhinged some of these ‘good’ conservatives really are!

  203. janz says:


    A good sense of humor is an elixir for gloom, that is for sure! CA is sunny where I am today, which is the northern CA coast. I’m going to take the mini cooper out today for a spin and enjoy the weather!

  204. NYCmike says:

    “How about a hug and and a kiss for the wife along with some conversation.”

    -Are you propositioning me?
    Bitterlaw, we need a ruling here, quickly!!

  205. DW says:

    STAND UP CHUCK! takes the prize as the greatest gaffe since the request to move the MARS rover to where our astronauts left a flag.

    Little known fact about CHUCK Graham of STAND UP CHUCK fame:

    “On October 20, 2007, Graham was arrested by Columbia Police on suspicion of driving while intoxicated after rear-ending a vehicle near his home in Southwest Columbia. His license was subsequently suspended. On January 10, 2008, his license was reinstated and he is free to drive again after one month, despite the state mandated period of suspension for refusing the chemical blood alcohol test being one year.”–Wiki

  206. NYCmike says:

    “I’m going to take the mini cooper out today for a spin and enjoy the weather!”

    -Rub it in, why don’t you?

    Have fun!

  207. Tim V says:

    your tax dollars at work in public education

    Teacher Assigns Virginia Middle Schoolers Task of Doing Opposition Research on Republican Candidates; No Similar Assignment For Obama


  208. janz says:

    More organizational skill at work:

    Mitt meets with Hill GOP

    #211 NYmike

    It’s been raining on and off, with fog for some time. Even our goldfish froze outside! So, today is what is called a “weather gift.”

  209. SusyQue says:

    Two days into spring…all the little birds are chirping! A beautiful sunny day in southern California.

  210. marc says:

    Right now if the election was held today in the Senate Republicans would pick up:

    North Dakota

    Independents pick up:



    Virginia, Florida, New Mexico, Massachusetts and Nevada all pure toss ups.

  211. Bitterlaw says:

    Bitterlaw, we need a ruling here, quickly!!

    Comment by NYCmike — March 22, 2012 @ 12:18 pm

    Maybe she’s a swinger, NYC.

  212. Walt says:

    Funny song sung to the tune of “Oh, Donna”.

  213. NYCmike says:

    216.Bitterlaw, we need a ruling here, quickly!!

    Comment by NYCmike — March 22, 2012 @ 12:18 pm

    Maybe she’s a swinger, NYC.

    –I can’t get my jaw to close!!

  214. NYCmike says:

    214.Two days into spring…all the little birds are chirping! A beautiful sunny day in southern California.

    -same in NYC!
    Crazy year! Snow on Halloween, practically none since then.

  215. NYCmike says:

    “It’s been raining on and off, with fog for some time.”

    -Doesn’t this usually make for a good year in Napa/Sonoma?

  216. Barrett says:

    It’s cloudy here in Maryland, but the temperature is good and it’s not raining

    Nice day overall

  217. marc says:

    Court upholds Wisconsin legislative maps.

  218. GF says:

    223- PHEW! One less thing to worry about, especially if any of the recall elections break against us.

  219. marc says:

    Court says legislature must redraw two minority district in Milwaukee’s south side that violate VRA

  220. lisab says:

    “Newt is the quintessetial old fool who will not depart from public life until he has lost every last vestige of his dignity”

    perhaps, but i have heard that he is personally making a lot of money during this campaign

  221. janz says:

    Over at the Red Racing Horses blog, one of our former favorite posters, Rdel, had this to say about Missouri:

    Missouri: Caucus chaos cost candidate chance at delegates? Okay I got up to 5 c words but this is an old story to folks at RRH. One of our posters gathered together local information and news reports to detail how Santorum got outmaneuvered on Saturday. This is a good place to remind people that the Missouri Caucuses will continue this Saturday in three locations. Is this one reason why a Santorum win contract is down to 2% on Intrade? In Illinois Romney turned a 47% win into what looks like 80% of the delegates. In Missouri Santorum won +50% in the primary and on Caucus day it looks like he dropped the ball. This does not inspire the party leaders and others who will a big say in delegate selection in PA or NY or IL.

    In other words, because of poor organization, Santorum is blowing it in his MO win. A comment, below Rdel’s thread, adds this about Santorum’s organizational incompetence:

    Santorum’s failure in the Missouri caucuses is exactly the opposite of what his people believe will happen. They are pushing a delegate count where they win most of the delegates in Iowa, Washington, North Dakota, Colorado, Minnesota, and Missouri. Their reasoning is that regardless of the vote at the initial caucuses the people who’ll be at the state conventions will all be very conservative and thus, they’ll vote for him.

    It sounds like they handled it the way they’ve handled everything. Do nothing and hope.You can’t win caucuses without organizing all the way to the convention.

    On a personal note, Rdel said to say Hi to all his friends at HHR.

  222. marc says:

    The court upheld all the other legislative and congressional districts that Republicans drew last year that favor their party, though the judges criticized the highly secretive methods they used. The decision means – barring a counter ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court – the GOP-friendly maps will be in place for the next decade, starting in November.

  223. marc says:

    Republicans no longer hold a majority in the State Senate so instead of coming back into session just to redraw two districts just ask the court to redraw those two districts. Of course the Democrats will demand they redraw all of them.

  224. Barrett says:

    So where are these Maryland and (more importantly) Wisconsin polls?

  225. marc says:

    I’m sure PPP is cooking one up to help out Santorum.

  226. Jaibo says:

    I mentioned this yesterday too but y’all are discounting the effect of not wanting something stuck up their hoo-has by independents in Virginia especially the women,

  227. lisab says:

    ” But there are people who opt out despite their dislike for the president.” addisonst

    well … you should spend your time reminding them abut how obama will never leave if romney loses

    instead of always trying to undermine romney and helping obama

  228. SoHope says:

    I think Josh Mandel has alot of upside…he may not be winning now but I think he will pickup steam in OH.

  229. Tim says:

    Say what? They hammered the guy.

  230. SusyQue says:

    #233…Lisab…excellent suggestion!

  231. lisab says:

    “This guy gave me a Joe Namath guarantee that Romney will win both Indiana and Virginia.”


    the dems gave that up long ago

  232. Edgar says:

    Colorado won’t happen for Romney. Too many Latinos. He can hope that the Mormon population in Nevada might help, but unlikely.

  233. DaveyJ says:

    184.This needs to end ASAP
    SweaterVest and ZooBoy have to get out
    Comment by MFG — March 22, 2012 @ 11:53 am

    WHY does it need to end? WHY? My daughter, who lives in Illinois, was delighted that she actually got to participate in the selection of our nominee! Wouldn’t it be great if my relatives from California also get to participate in June? What’s the hurry?

  234. SusyQue says:

    #213…janz…Read the article you posted. It was
    interesting to read. The meetings with Romney must have been encouraging and uplifting for the attendees. Surely, they saw Romney’s efficiency in action.

  235. Addisonst says:

    174 is exhibit A in the Annie is a sycophant proceeding.

    Annie, each and every one of those comments may have a logical defense. Not all of them actually do.

    The point is you tirelessly apologize for each one and don’t see a problem rather than saying “ok that might not be so helpful”. And that is what makes you a sycophant.

    Romney has shot himself in the foot a lot. Not only do you not think he’s self inflicting the wounds but you don’t think he’s wounded. Just acknowledge he’s made some mistakes and move on instead of saying they aren’t mistakes.

  236. SoHope says:

    I am pretty sure that CO has more Republicans than Democrats…Maybe CO is 1 or 2 points to the left of the US as a whole but that is all. CO is doable.

  237. DaveyJ says:

    237– My point is that he’s every bit as confident of winning Virginia as he is with Indiana.

  238. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    notice the GOP has nothing but good news in the senate races (minus today’s CT poll) and Obama gets good news in the Prez race, something’s gotta give…

  239. lisab says:

    “Maybe CO is 1 or 2 points to the left of the US as a whole but that is all. CO is doable.”

    not with santorum

    romney could win,

    but not a religious nut like santorum

  240. SoHope says:

    #242 reminds everyone why you were called ficus.

    Heaven forbid that anyone keep the troll invasion from taking nominee to be’s words out of context or over reacting a faux pas.

  241. SoHope says:

    lisab, that goes without saying…

  242. DaveyJ says:

    242.174 is exhibit A in the Annie is a sycophant proceeding.

    Exactly! The point isn’t the Romney being rich is bad, it’s that he is a gaffe machine. It’s not bad that he’s rich, but it is bad that he feels the need to keep reminding us of how rich he is — making it near impossible for anyone less rich than him to relate to him. Of course there are complicated defenses for all of his gaffes, but the problem is that he can’t stop making these gaffes!

    Example: When he was down at the Daytona NASCAR race, he reminded us that he hangs out with the rich NASCAR car owners. He got skewered for that, for another “rich guy gaffe”. So did he learn from that mistake? Nope. A few weeks later, when asked about where Peyton Manning would land, he again reminded us how he hangs out with his rich friends, NFL owners.

    He can’t help it, he’s Thurston Howell III. That is the reason his negatives are so high. No one (except the very rich) relates to him.

  243. lisab says:

    even if gingrich and santorum push the etch a sketch theme … which romney never said

    all romney has t do is get an etch a sketch

    put “obamacare” on it … and then shake it

    put “$4 gas” on it … and shake it

    put “nuclear iran” on it … and shake it

    put “trillion dollar deficits” on it … and shake it

    no biggie

  244. lisab says:

    “lisab, that goes without saying”

    some people have never been to colorado

  245. bio mom says:

    At least this thread isn’t about football!

  246. Addisonst says:

    Hey Hope, i voted for the guy on Tuesday. I don’t have to be satisfied. There’s a reason why he isn’t doing better. He’s the reason. Deal with it.

  247. Addisonst says:

    romney should fire the guy who made the etch a sketch comment. Which the Ficuses at NRO suggest too.

  248. Emerica says:

    Boehner starts crying again!

    John Boehner Cries While Listening To Traditional Irish Music During St. Patrick’s Day Luncheon


  249. NYCmike says:

    Say what? They hammered the guy.

    -Yes, Tim, the media beat up on Ken-doll just like they do to Republican candidates/politicians. Give me a break!

  250. SusyQue says:

    Some say Sarah Palin is more popular than Romney.
    Well, she is a celebrity and entertainer. I liked her in the beginning, but I didn’t like the turn she took after the 2008 election. I do not know anyone who would want her to run for president.
    Frankly, I hope 2 men will be on the GOP ticket.

  251. jan says:

    Davey Romney is gonna be the nominee. You either accept it or get 4 more years Obama and this Chicago machine.

  252. Addisonst says:

    Dim Tim, I do believe the global warming is rotting out your brain. The MSM knew that the Silky Pony was cavorting w a dare i say it “slut”. They covered for him while he ran for office. It took the National enquirer to break the story.

    Nobody talked about what a craven, scumbag he was until the tabloids put the story out there.

  253. DrJay says:

    C’mon, the National Enquirer hammered the guy…

    the leading name in news

  254. Addisonst says:

    Jan Romney is gonna be the nomney. You can accept that he needs to stop sticking his foot in his mouth or get 4 more years of Obama.

  255. SusyQue says:

    #255…Nothing wrong with crying when you hear a song that touches your heart. I find that as men grow older, they either become meaner and grouchy or they become mellow and sentimental.

  256. lisab says:

    wasn’t it the enquirer, along with drudge, that broke the lewinski story?

  257. Fake Susy says:

    Who is Jan Romney?

  258. Jan Romney says:

    I know! All you ever hear about is Marcia Romney!

    Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!

  259. Addisonst says:

    the Beloved signed Michael Bush. By cracky.

  260. Addisonst says:

    Jan Romney is the wife of Davey Romney

  261. lisab says:

    what is the over/under

    for the percent of addisonst’s comments that are

    helpful to obama vs. simply insulting or inane?

  262. Emerica says:

    Maybe he was drunk

  263. Emerica says:

    Jan 9 th 2012 ‘SNL’: Nancy Pelosi Makes John Boehner Cry On ‘Weekend Update’ (VIDEO)

    “What doesn’t make him cry?” Pelosi asked, before saying “Watch this” and listing a number of things that incited loud crying from Boehner:
    “Little American flag. An old man saluting a parade… Reruns of ‘Touched By An Angel'”

  264. Apologetic California says:

    #228, sounds like a win for the battered GOP in WI since only two assembly districts have to be redrawn.

  265. Who am I? says:

    “I voted for Romney, but I want to use most of my posts bad mouthing the guy I have chosen to beat Obama and accusing other posters of be Romney of being sycophants.”

  266. Addisonst says:


    I already voted for Romney. I also have no ability to pull the election to either candidate.

  267. SoHope says:

    I wonder if WI voters are engaged or overstimulated when it comes to politics. They have been battling for a long time.

  268. jan says:

    It’s funny how liberals and those backing Newt and Santorum are latching on to this etech-a-sketch thing has if Romney said it himself.

  269. Addisonst says:

    Annie is a sycophant. Not every poster is.

  270. SoHope says:

    #273…sounds fair to me…while you are trashing Romney (whom you voted for)you might as well give us a list of positive things about Obama. It’s ok, you won’t be critisized here because you have no power to pull the election either way.

  271. SusyQue says:

    #264…stop using my name to ask a question…you coward! (:-)

  272. Lite Brite says:

    When will it be my turn to rise from the grave?!

  273. Connect Four says:

    Rick Perry can’t even connect three!

  274. Lincoln Logs says:

    Suck it, Lite Brite. You were a lame chick toy. People made forts with me!

  275. Sit and Spin says:

    The MSM has mastered me!

  276. Lite Brite says:

    Lincoln Logs… isn’t that what Blanche made when she saw her first poll numbers?

  277. Monopoly says:

    Pretty soon you’ll be able to play me with real U.S. currency!

  278. DW says:

    Someone above was down on Romney’s chances in CO. Excuse me but the only poll we have is a PPP(D) poll of CO from December and they had it 45% Romney 47% Obama. Very winnable for Mitt.

  279. SoHope says:

    My worse “SSQ Moment” was in 2010 by admitting that I didn’t know who Sue Nami was. I mentioned that I googled the name and it came back with some transvestite beauty queen. It wasn’t until I read the name outloud that I figured it out.

  280. Addisonst says:

    Hope, you really have to go through the lookingglass to get to I’ll say good things about Obama even though I just voted for Romney.

    Stand down.

  281. Spirograph says:

    Can I be the symbol of someones campaign, too? I just go in circles and eventually repeat myself over and over.

  282. janz says:

    Webster’s definition of ‘sycophant’ is:

    One who seeks favor by flattering people of wealth or influence”.

    That certainly doesn’t sound like any of Annie’s posts that I have read.

    Perhaps her comments are just too effective, meriting frivolous and inapplicable comments from another.

  283. SoHope says:

    Your bankers wouldn’t shut up about how awesome he was…


  284. Bitterlaw says:

    Hope – that would explain one visit to the transvestite website. Can you explain your membership to the site, collection of clothing and action figures?

  285. Bitterlaw says:

    My banker told me Eli Manning was better than Cutler. Zing!

  286. Daddy Warbucks says:

    Annie has won me over…

  287. Addisonst says:

    Hope stop being petulant. They said business was improving and the economy was too. You are sounding a lot like the Tebow moron.

    I was here ripping Obama before you were. Don’t sink to the level of the other jerk.

  288. Addisonst says:

    And all of the bankers i talk to about business and how prospects are vote repub except one. Which makes your statement even more absurd.

  289. SoHope says:

    Bitter…I didn’t know you were the webmaster of that site? Aren’t you supposed to keep my info private? Well that secret is out of the closet…now I have to convert to Judaism.

  290. Annie says:

    Addison’s disease – I am not a parasitic bootlicker… And Daddy, I’m no orphan – more like “get your gun.”

  291. Emerica says:

    Reports are that Tebow actually wanted to go to NY rather than Jacksonville even though he wouldn’t get to start. Jacksonville was offering a lot more money for Tebow, but Tebow himself was pushing for the Jets.

    Basically the Tebow brand can make a ton of money in a large market, and on top of that Tebow like media attention a lot so it was NY.

  292. SusyQue says:

    #286…As a teacher, I encouraged my students to ask questions when they didn’t understand something. That happens to be the intelligent thing to do. With some on this blog…it’s a sign of ignorance or stupidity. Only a prideful person would say that!

  293. jan says:

    Actually the Jets have a plan to use Tebow Jacksonville only wanted to see tickets and the coaching staff didn’t really want him unlike in New York were the owner, the front office and the coaches wanted him.

  294. Edgar says:

    It was I about Colorado. Yes, I know there weren’t any recent polls but I can tell you that the increasing hispanic population in Colorado will continue to make that state bluer and bluer. It’s about one four-year cycle behind New Mexico.

  295. Bitterlaw says:

    SUSYQUE – You read HHR often but you don’t take notes. Here is a quick guide:

    GF – Navy, California, Jewish wife, bad innards

    lisab – Mass. utopian socialist, Peace Corps, teacher, lived in Illinois

    SoHope – owns a cleaning business, Evangelical,

    Tim V. – vicious, angry, hate-filled Evangelical (sometimes and only towards me), lives in Nowhereville, NY

    Corey – Chicago Jew and Romney’s biggest fan

    Addisonst- the other Chicago Jew, sometimes funny, sometimes nasty, and always outspoken

    MFG – recovering fake post addict

    Jason – the only man I know who can incite the Amish to violence

    Bitterlaw – an ex-girlfriend once described me as “an impossible blend of arrogance and self-doubt.”

  296. Addisonst says:

    MFG is recovering? I didn’t even know he’d sought treatment. I’d love to taunt MFG about his football team but I don’t dislike the Saints. And I’m still amazed that Payton turned out to be such a bad guy.

    I truly thought he was a good guy by coaching and professional athlete, scum standards.

  297. Addisonst says:

    And I wasn’t here when LSU looked pathetic against Bama and. I suppose I could mock him for that.

    “that’s a “Tidey” tease”

  298. Addisonst says:

    With the Bear signing Michael Bush, by cracky, they may look to dump Forte via trade.

    Color me in favor of dumping Forte for a 3rd rounder if they can get one.


    Mr B-Law

    What about me?

  300. Bitterlaw says:

    Add – We have had our battles. I still can’t decide if I like you or hate you. However, I respect your combative nature. You have free passage from the Philly a-holes if you travel through the city.

  301. DW says:

    well, the data doesn’t show that about CO. Here are the results in CO compared to NM since 1984 showing GOP%/Dem%:

    YEAR – CO – NM

    1984 63/35 – 60/39
    1988 53/45 – 52/47
    1992 36/40 – 37/46
    1996 47/46 – 43/51
    2000 52/42 – 48/48
    2004 52/47 – 50/49
    2008 45/54 – 42/57

    so for a quarter century, NM has been bluer than CO, but Edgar wants to portray the situation CO catching up to NM. Its not. If I believed the situation was hopeless, I would leave the HHR, and the USA and move to a pacific island. In 2008 many normally competitive states went towards Obama, that’s because he won. Expect CO and NV to be very competitive this fall for Romney.

  302. bio mom says:

    Essentially an endorsement from Jim DeMint for Romney. How else would you interpret that?

  303. Bitterlaw says:

    Other Guy – I can’t write up everybody. SUSYQUE has to do some work on her own.

  304. Joe Wilson says:

    dr. sohope, my ssq moment came when I …

    oh never mind, I don’t want to be accused of being “prideful”

  305. Tim V says:

    bitter, what kind of character assasination are youengaging in towards me ?

    you ARE a philly a- hole.

  306. NYCmike says:

    “sometimes funny”

    -especially when he says Cutlet is better than ELI(te)!!

  307. Tim V says:

    if anyone is viscious, it is your dear friend lisab.

  308. Addisonst says:

    Bitter you have enough neuroses to be an honorary Lonsman. I have no axe to grind with you although the psychoanalysis of my post marital state is not cool. And also incorrect as my name was on the top of the petition.

    Like you i’ve coached little league and am a doting father.

  309. Addisonst says:

    new threads plural

  310. Tim V says:

    bitter is the king of insults, it is part of his humor sctick, kinda like don rickles.

  311. jan says:

    309. Good time to prepare of the General election campaign. Fundraising, coordination between Congressional Republicans and the state Republican parties, begin developing organization operations for GOTV, vet possible V.P selections, plan for a the convention etec.

    So much stuff for Romney to do instead of playing around with nut Santorum and ego Newt.

  312. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim V. – I am always afraid to be nice to you. I think that you need to direct your anger towards somebody. I am willing to help.

    Add – you are a worthy opponent. It is not cool of me to discuss your marital status. Sometimes, I go too far. Cream soda (now, the real Add would slap the can out of my hand and stab me with a sharpened toothbrush but, hey, it’s your call).