Romney Up Double Digits In WI, Endorsed By Ryan

Scott Rasmussen becomes the third pollster today to show Mitt Romney leading the Republican race in Wisconsin and his poll shows the lead in double digits.

Mitt Romney 44%
Rick Santorum 34%
Newt Gingrich 7%
Ron Paul 7%

This poll was done March 29th among 717 likely primary voters. Adding to this new poll, we have news that Paul Ryan has now officially joined the ranks with the rest of us RINOs as he has come out and endorsed Mitt Romney for President.

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  1. Annie says:


  2. Annie says:

    Repost from last thread:

    My son just shared this recent Santorum Freudian moment with me – Wow…Santorum could have recovered by saying the word “negotiator” or something similar, but he is not the brightest man in town.

  3. Bitterlaw says:

    From below:

    NYC – I don’t even want to read Decisions related to my job. IF you think I’m going through hundreds of Scalia’s Decisions, as they say in your dialect “Fuggitaboudit.”

  4. jan says:

    I’m tired of talking about this stupid primary. The Healthcare case makes it clear its time to moved from the lunatics like Santorum and start the campaign against Obama.

  5. Annie says:

    Looks like Romney should get the 42, winner-take-all, Wisconsin delegates – as well as DC and Maryland next Tuesday. A good day ahead for Romney, a rotten month for Santorum – time has come for Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul to throw in the towel.

  6. Annie says:

    jan – Romney’s speeches and campaign have all pivoted to the general election already. He talks very little about the GOP competition anymore.

  7. jenny-former republican says:

    did santorum almost call obama the n-word?
    and yet, these idiots want this liberal anti-business republican to be the nominee.

  8. Since my comment was at the end of the last thread:

    If a justice ignores the US Constitution, they would NOT be a “conservative” justice.

  9. NYCmike says:

    #3 -Bitter, How do they say that in your dialec…..ahh, who cares, no one is listening to a guy from Philly. And they call that a “city”!

    (gratuitous “NYC-center-of-the-universe” statement for the day)

  10. Robbie says:

    Just to tie up a comment from the last thread, let me offer this. It would not be at all strange for Roberts, down the road, to change his vote and side with the liberals on the mandate if Kennedy goes there first. It’s not unbelievable to think Roberts could change his vote today after they’ve gone around the table either.

    I do think, sadly, Roberts and Kennedy are searching for a way to approve this bill. Kennedy has never been one to take rights away (Casey, DC gun case, Lawrence v Texas) and Roberts is looking for a way to depoliticize the Court. I suspect he might believe a 6-3 ruling in favor would do a lot to help the Court’s perception.

    I don’t like it at all, but they are political people to be sure.

  11. 5 – Even though Wisconsin is a “winner-take-all”, that is both on the state and congressional level. Santorum will win some delegates. The question will be whether he wins any districts in Maryland. Hope Dave is working hard for Romney there.

  12. DW says:

    The left is already going nuts just at the thought of Obamacare getting tossed out. Here is but one rant I found:

    “It is disturbing that the Republican “justices” already made up their minds before they even heard arguments; they are so arrogant and mentally ill. Yes, mentally ill. Only a mentally ill, spiritually dead, victim-complexed idiot could buy into republican ideas.

    If the justices rule against Health Care Act, then the USA will be back at square one, facing bankruptcy and insurmountable debt for the next 100 years. The free rider republicans will still be riding free and milking the system, costing us all $$$. Yes…it is mostly “republicans”…poor working class whites that hate mandated insurance the most. The people that rail against something the loudest are usually guilty of it themselves, especially in the immoral republican party. (ie Larry Craig, Mark Foley).

    Insurance companies will jump for joy when the republican con artists on the SC OVERREACH and turn over the Affordable Care Act. They will be the only winners. Insurance companies and doctors will once again TURN US AWAY FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. The USA will accelerate its descent into deficit and budget hell for the forseeable future. Republicans are too stupid and ignorant to understand this law. The court will create an uproar in the country if they turn over this law as the majority support it. Provide Americans will a solution, and they would rather the country fall into the pit. Stupid idiots.”

    So Obamacare was going to free us from debt and bankruptcy for 100 years! Who knew?

  13. NYCmike says:

    The few decisions I have read, and the few times you see/hear them speaking on TV/radio, I am always struck by the more simple language used by the “conservative” justices, as opposed to the “liberal” justices. The LIBS seem to have to introduce complex language and/or situations to make their points.

  14. DW says:

    So if Roberts is looking to de-politicize the court, then why doesn’t he invite Ginsburg to join the majority in tossing this excrement out, so that it will be 6-3 for saving the USA?

  15. OHIO JOE says:

    “The Healthcare case makes it clear its time to moved from the lunatics like Santorum and start the campaign against Obama.” Hello: Mr. Romney is the lunatic that supported healthcare mandates in the first place.

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – New York is a great city. London is better. Deal with it.

  17. 10 – STRONGLY disagree. Roberts and Kennedy might be looking for a comprimise to bring Breyer over to the majority. If it was possible to sever the bill and still have a decision by June, I’d be worried that would be the comprimise on this part.

    If you listen to the arguments, you can hear Kagan’s desperation. She knows her bill is going down. If there was a chance of her winning the argument over this bill she helped craft, she could recuse herself since even a 4-4 vote would uphold the bill in “TOTO”.

  18. Bitterlaw says:

    Not national mandates, Ohio Joe. Either you believe in the right of the state to pass a law or you don’t.*

    * Don’t start the slavery debate again.

  19. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    OHIO JOE, its over, get over it

  20. jan says:

    Robbie still playing his game. What new right is in Obamacare.

  21. 12 – “The Righteous Mind,” by Jonathan Haidt

    Liberals do not understand conservatives. If they want to fault their solicitor general (and his deputy), it was obvious in the audio of the oral argument they had no idea how to talk with people that disagree with their opinions.

  22. Bitterlaw says:

    If the justices rule against Health Care Act, then the USA will be back at square one, facing bankruptcy and insurmountable debt for the next 100 years.

    Doesn’t that mean that the debt would be “surmountable” after 100 years? In that case, it is not insurmountable.

  23. jan says:

    Ray Robbie actually supports Obamacare he’s playing a game with everyone here. If you actually read what he says it sounds like a Democrat trying to sound Republican but using Democrat language.

    Nobody but liberals think this Court is political and care about it’s perception. Why doesn’t Robbie consider the 4 liberal justices just has political?

    Wouldn’t a 9 to 0 decision against Obamacare be even more non-partisan than a 6-3 upholding it.

    Give me a break and go away Robbie.

  24. DW says:

    22…consider you were reading a leftist rant about Obamacare that somehow got Mark Foley mentioned in it.

  25. SusyQue says:

    Young and Restless
    After voting for “hope” and “change” in 2008, many young people are disillusioned with President Obama.

    Let’s hope so!

  26. jan says:

    They really are becoming on unhinged. They really didn’t see it coming.

    Dems fume over Justice Scalia’s comments during healthcare case

  27. NYCmike says:

    16.NYC – New York is a great city. London is better. Deal with it.

    -London is Obi-Wan, NYC is Anakin/Darth. (Philly is Alderaan)
    The pupil will surpass the teacher. (and the Death Star will NOT be blown up!)

    (I am rambling now. London and its “history” wins out every time!)

  28. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – get out. There must be a carbon monoxide leak in your house. Call Con Edison…No. Don’t. They won’t show up on a Friday afternoon.

  29. SusyQue says:

    Not-So-Smooth Operator
    Obama increasingly comes across as devious and dishonest.
    By Peggy Noonan

  30. Robbie says:

    So if Roberts is looking to de-politicize the court, then why doesn’t he invite Ginsburg to join the majority in tossing this excrement out, so that it will be 6-3 for saving the USA?

    Comment by DW — March 30, 2012 @ 11:40 am

    Excellent point. The partisanship of the Court is always viewed through the conservative justices. No one ever mentions the liberal never ever break ranks on key issues, never.

  31. jan says:

    Which seems to be the view you take Robbie.

  32. Robbie says:

    Robbie still playing his game. What new right is in Obamacare.

    Comment by jan — March 30, 2012 @ 11:50 am

    I’m not playing games at all. I actually listened to all of the arguments and remain fearful that the wobbly justices will go wobbly again.

    Did you listen?

  33. NYCmike says:

    from that Hill article:
    Feinstein said striking down the healthcare law would have enormous implications that should be taken very seriously.

    “This could take down Social Security, too,” she said. “If the questions indicate a trend line, as reported, there’s real jeopardy for the government to achieve any real benefits for people. Even Medicaid is in question.”

    -Soc Security and Medicaid have specific taxes set up. If the Dems had set this up the same way, it probably would not have gotten to the Supreme Court. Of course, it probably would not have passed if they had been truthful about the cost. STRIKE IT DOWN!

  34. Robbie says:

    Ray Robbie actually supports Obamacare he’s playing a game with everyone here. If you actually read what he says it sounds like a Democrat trying to sound Republican but using Democrat language.

    Nobody but liberals think this Court is political and care about it’s perception. Why doesn’t Robbie consider the 4 liberal justices just has political?

    Wouldn’t a 9 to 0 decision against Obamacare be even more non-partisan than a 6-3 upholding it.

    Give me a break and go away Robbie.

    Comment by jan — March 30, 2012 @ 11:57 am

    Stick to cleaning the house and baking cookies.

    If you’re going to make ridiculous arguments about me, then I get to do the same.

    I think ACA is unconstitutuional because it requires participation when that’s never been the case before. I just don’t know Kennedy is strong enough.

  35. NYCmike says:

    So if Roberts is looking to de-politicize the court, then why doesn’t he invite Ginsburg to join the majority in tossing this excrement out, so that it will be 6-3 for saving the USA?

    Comment by DW — March 30, 2012 @ 11:40 am

    -Roberts would look to become the 6th vote if Kennedy joins the 4 stooges on the left in saying there are no boundaries to the Federal governments power.

  36. Brandon says:

    Interesting internals on this poll makes me question whether Romney is really up 10…

  37. NYCmike says:

    “Stick to cleaning the house and baking cookies.”

    -Oatmeal raisin, if anyone wants to take the initiative. I’m too busy being brilliant on the internet!

  38. Phil says:

    LOL at the Hill article.

    Democrats were fuming about “Scalia’s conduct”

    That’s a side splitter. Yeah, his “conduct” was that he questioned the constitutionality of an overreaching and unconstitutional law. How dare he?

    MSM never surprises me.

  39. NYCmike says:

    “Obama increasingly comes across as devious and dishonest.”

    -It looks like Peggy finally started looking at the policies of the man, instead of his skin color!

  40. Brandon says:

    Rubio, Kyl, and Hutchison working on their own version of the DREAM Act….

  41. SusyQue says:

    HURT: Brutal week for Obama, the worst of his presidency

    The past seven brutal days will go down as one of the worst weeks in history for a sitting president. It certainly has been, without any doubt, the worst week yet for President Obama.
    Somehow, Mr. Obama managed to embarrass himself abroad, humiliate himself here at home, see his credentials for being elected so severely undermined that it raises startling questions about whether he should have been elected in the first place — let alone be re-elected later this year.


  42. jan says:

    40. Why? You can’t compete with total amnesty the dems offer. Also Kyl and Hutchinson are lame ducks.

  43. Brandon says:

    Because they’re RINO’s.

  44. SoHope says:

    If it is eventual citzenship for those that serve in the military, I think Romney already came out in support of that.

  45. Robbie, Powerline has a good blog on Kennedy’s opinion based on individual liberty on Citizens United that could give you a little more confidence:

    Just watch out for that Wobbles dude.

  46. bio mom says:

    today’s numbers from gallup:

    5 day rolling average:
    Romney 42 (+3)
    Santorum 27 (-1)
    Gingrich 11 (+1)

    Obama 44(-2)/47(+1) 3 day rolling average

  47. SusyQue says:

    (also evangelicals)

    Father Robert Barron is a priest who has
    spectacular DVD’s to watch. Outstanding
    gifted, teacher. Always interesting and biblical.
    See for yourself!

  48. DW says:

    Gallup tracking finally adjusted their chart to allow for up to 50 percent (it was at 40. Mitt had gone over 40 a week ago, but they never adjusted it.

  49. SoHope says:

    Kendall Marshall wins the Bob Cousy Award (top NCAA PG)

    He was the 3rd Tar Heel to win it in 8 years

  50. janz says:

    The Peggy Noonan article (#29), susy posted above, is a good read, as it delves into Obama’s ‘likability’ factor — something that usually has stayed above the fray, in the wake of his failed policies, followed by an abysmal economy. Now, according to Noonan, people are personally ‘liking’ him less. She cites his overreach into the contraception issue, followed by the egregious hot mic incident, and ending with the most recent personalization of the Trayvon Martin episode, as being reasons people are trusting him less — in her words, Obama is becoming ‘creepy.’

    Obama’s isolation, as a president, and lack of cooperation with the opposing party appears to finally be taking a toll on his overall popularity as a person.

  51. Bobby says:

    NC-VA-OH-FL 4 State Poll –
    Obama (D) 47%
    Romney (R) 44%

    Obama (D) 49%
    Santorum (R) 42%

    I believe this is an improvement for Romney (Only has 79-10 support among R’s, Obama has 88-10 among D’s) Indies are tied at 42.

    Santorum wins R’s 74-11, Obama gets 89-9 of D’s. Indies go to Obama by 4.

  52. SoHope says:

    looks to me that Romney has nowhere to go but up in that poll…

    only 2% of D’s undecided, 11% or R’s, and 58% of indies not sold on Obama

  53. janz says:

    Will overturning Obamacare liberate the Supreme Court?

    The Lying Liberal Media exerts a powerful influence on the Supreme Court. Justices know that ruling against liberal orthodoxy will bring endless vitriol from
    legal “reporters,” “experts,” “professors” and the like for the rest of their lives. And beyond.

    This is why justices like David Souter, Sandra Day O’Connor, John Paul Stevens, and others steadily “evolved” leftwards. They got tired of fighting.

    But Obamacare may represent a break from all this. If five justices overturn all of Obamacare, they know that liberals will destroy their reputations and legacies. There will be no turning back.

    This could have a strange liberating effect. If they’re going to get ruthlessly attacked anyway, why not just rule the way they want? Why not, for instance, overturn affirmative action altogether when Fisher v. Texas comes up in the fall?

    Everyone has been studying the aftermath, or by- products of the PPACA being overturned. But, this is one aspect that is most intriguing, as it reflects a change in “character” of the court — perhaps freeing them up to judge the merits of an issue, rather than being persuaded by the outside rhetoric of liberal pressure and bias.

  54. DW says:

    Obama thought it was so much fun to slam the high court, and all those applauding in this video clip thought it was so funny and they cheered wildly….you know that old saying about what comes around….

  55. jan says:

    It is an improvement. Romney is only down b/c their are still some idiot Republicans aka Redstate still holding out hope that the corpse of Reagan will rise from the dead and deliver them from RINO’s and Mormons. Once Romney’s GOP support gets to Obama’s level he will be ahead.

  56. janz says:

    Krauthammer’s take on the what happened in the recent HC SCOTUS hearings is spot on!

    This guy — he wasn’t thrown under a bus, he was thrown under a tractor. The problem was not the solicitor general. The problem was that he didn’t have a case. If you have a court that accepts the premise, as a lot of liberals don’t, that we have a government with enumerated powers, there is no way to expand the Commerce Clause to include the individual mandate. And that is what the solicitor general has to argue.

    It’s a case he couldn’t make. But no one could have. You blame him because you don’t want to admit the fact that you had an extremely weak case.

    BTW, DW, that line about what goes around comes around, is far too often so true….which is why, giving in to a moment’s pleasure, in publically upbraiding someone, can cause far more grief for you in the future.

  57. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t believe that the Supremes would vote down Obamacare over hurt feelings because of the State of the Union Address. These are brilliant people, whether you like them or not. To argue that they would change their philosophy and decades of their interpretation to stick it to Obama says that you do not respect their character or professionalism. Would they take pleasure in smacking Obama if they were already going to do it anyway? Sure. Would somebody change their vote? I doubt it. I’m sure that I am in theminority in holding that view.

  58. janz says:

    The recall for Walker is now set for June 5th.

    WI republicans are more focused on Walker’s recall election than on the presidential primary

    There are really a lot of vital issues, rolling around these day, that are yet to be determined!!

  59. Diogenes says:

    Chekobbie go away.

    Liberals had a more ready sounding board in Sarah O’Connor who filled our legal system with moronic tests. Kennedy is at least intellectually consistent and it is my belief he will swing the court 5-4 against.

    The Dems will cry far but outside of the netroots, who will care? This law is deeply unpopular. The court does not risk anything like what it faced during the depression against the reckless court-packing of FDR. In fact, it is likely that many more Republicans will be helped this fall by running on the simple motto: “Vote for me, I will only pass constitional laws.”

    Obama was a Peronista experiment that needs to go. Nothing but an empty suit that only really finds his voice when he can race-bait and fight some anachronistic, 19th-century Marxist fight against the rich.

    This June we start to really take back our country from the imbecile liberals who have alraedy ruined California.

  60. SusyQue says:

    Rush is now going off on how bad it will be if Romney wins the nomination. Woe, he says big government will remain under Romney. Under his father, George Romney…bla,bla,bla. Romney might lose. So many hopes, but the old establishment GOP is not paying attention to the tea party.

    Rush and his followers absolutely refuse to see anything conservative about Romney. He certainly is fiscally conservative…but that’s not enough
    for their satisfaction.

  61. janz says:


    I don’t think a conservative SCOTUS, in particular, would deliberately focus on some personal presidential abuse, in which to base a decision. However, it is more difficult to deliver a blow, such as overturning a POTUS’s centerpiece legislative achievement, if you like and respect the guy, versus think he is an a**, don’t you think?

  62. DW says:

    58….I think you are right, but I think I am too…I am talking about the fact that even though these justices will no doubt approach this case based on all the legalities, and the precedent, and so on…and their opinions will be all filled with the normal legaleze…henceforth…pursuant to, and so on…these people are HUMANS, and no human being, no matter how professional is without an emotional soul. Its why Alito shook his head NO at Obama’s slam and mouthed “that’s not true.”

    So in the end, its true that none of these justices would ever say it to another, and all their work will be the professional, emotionless work you describe…deep in the recesses of their souls, the conservatives here will take some delight in exacting their answer to Obama’s SOTU slam.

  63. Hall Monitor says:

    Another Santorum Slip: Obama an Anti-War ‘Government Nig?’
    Listen for yourself and see if you hear it. I did.
    Read the article.

  64. SoHope says:

    RNC ad shows CSPAN’s vote count of Obama’s budget on the house floor.

    and say zero votes for Obama’s budget. His greatest bipartisian accomplishment.

    good one!

  65. SoHope says:

    #65…I don’t buy it, but it does show Santorum blabs without actually thinking about what he is going to say.

  66. janz says:


    Another 17 trillion surprise found in Obamacare

    The hidden shortfall between new spending and new taxes was revealed just after Supreme Court justices grilled the law’s supporters about its compliance with the Constitution’s limits on government activity. If the court doesn’t strike down the law, it will force taxpayers find another $17 trillion to pay for the increased spending.

    The $17 trillion in extra promises was revealed by an analysis of the law’s long-term requirements. The additional obligations, when combined with existing Medicare and Medicaid funding shortfalls, leaves taxpayers on the hook for an extra $82 trillion in health care obligations over the next 75 years.

    What was it that Pelosi said…something about waiting to find out what was in this bill?

  67. Enjolras says:

    My first ever political opponent killed his wife (who was ailing from Alzheimer’s) and then himself, yesterday.

    He didn’t believe in God but I ask you all to pray for both him, and his wife.

    They were very dedicated moderate Republicans.

    I never liked the man, but I did respect him.

  68. SoHope says:

    I grew up around a racist extended family before I was moved to NC. IMO that word can’t be said by accident (just too much stigma attached)

  69. Waingro says:

    #62, I’m so disappointed in Rush. Even Mark Levin (by no means a Romney guy!) has seen the light and has pretty much turned his entire attention towards defeating Barry.

  70. MFG says:

    If he didn’t say n*gger what was Santorum going to say?

    This man is the worst candidate in the history of the universe

  71. DW says:

    68…but we were told by a raving left-wing nut that if Obamacare was struck down then we would never get out of debt and would face bankruptcy.

  72. MFG says:

    Jul I’m very sorry to hear that will do

  73. DW says:

    65…wow, that was pretty hard to overlook…

    “The anti-war government nig…”

    I cannot think of a way this sentence could end otherwise…

    “The anti-war government nig-gerdly acting protestor”

    Anything better than that?

  74. Waingro says:

    Gallup has their unadjusted unemployment number all the way down to 8.3%.

    It was at 9.0% the day the Dept. of Labor spinned- er – released their numbers.

    This tells me the official number is probably moving down come next week. Brace yourself for another Barry bump in the polls.

  75. MFG says:

    Possibly the word he wanted to say began with n-e

    But what word in that context starts with n-e?

  76. DW says:

    Here is the definition of niggardly:

    nig·gard·ly? ?/?n?g?rdli/ Show Spelled[nig-erd-lee] Show IPA
    1. reluctant to give or spend; stingy; miserly.
    2. meanly or ungenerously small or scanty: a niggardly tip to a waiter.
    3. in the manner of a niggard.

  77. MFG says:

    Can we trade Santorum to the Democrats for a psychopath to be named later?

  78. DW says:

    listen to the audio…its clearly NIG…not NE…

  79. MFG says:

    He had that other slip remember when he denied saying the word “Blacks”

    What a goddamned nut!!!

    Thank you PA for Spector and this lunatic

  80. GF says:

    79- If Kookcinich goes back to his old pro-life viewds, we can absorb him to fill al pro-life populist niche. can’t be any worse than Sancto.

  81. MFG says:

    Yeah, definitely he said n-i-g

    What other word could he possibly have meant?

    What a goddamned worthless piece of trash

  82. DW says:

    It would be one thing if Santorum had said

    “The anti-war, government nig- big spender.”

    That would have been a slip of the tongue…brain wanted a b, but the mouth put out an n. But the context of that statement would have made sense and it would have been obvious that he intended to say big-spender. But go back and listen…as soon as he said nig…the whole sentence stopped in its tracks, he was very uncomfortable for a second and then fumbled around trying to start a new sentence.

  83. MFG says:

    Dear God

    Worst candidate ever nobody else even close…

  84. Hall Monitor says:

    MFG..hush…no need to cuss. Ok, it was what it is
    but that doesn’t make someone worthless and they certainly aren’t trash. Be nice, now.

  85. MFG says:

    It makes him a goddamned racist worthless piece of pig sh*t

    In addition to being a psychotic delusional lunatic

    Can we expell him from the party somehow?

  86. Waingro says:

    I’m not a Santorum guy by any means, but I saw the clip, and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

    With that being said, I am MUCH happier to see this coming from his mouth instead of Romney’s!

  87. Robert Byrd's ghost says:

    I cannot see what all this fuss about Santorum is about. I mean after all, I have spoken several times about there being white nig-gers.

  88. Hall Monitor says:

    Let’s face it. We want Romney to be free to be the nominee against ooo, so we are frustrated because of the continued resistance of Newt and Santorum refusing to get out of the race. They are still being encouraged by Rush,et al even though they were thoroughly for Mitt in 2008. Who knows what foolishness lurks in the minds of “real” conservatives.

  89. DW says:

    Seriously though, look in any collegiate dictionary at words that start with nig–what options did Rick have to end that sentence?

  90. Annie says:

    Sangtorum could have recovered – and perhaps still sounded lame – by saying “negotiator.” But Santorum was dumb, is dumb, and just quickly went in a different direction…which, of course, draws even more attention to the “nig” sound.

  91. SusyQue says:

    Looks like Biden got some new choppers. Check the photo on Drudge!

  92. Annie says:

    Then again…it could explain why Santorum does so well in the traditional KKK territory of the South and Midwest (Just joking! My apologies to the rational and sane citizens of that region – my family hails from the Midwest and I have lived for years in the South – all which are more sane than my present, decades-long, location of California).

  93. Emerica says:

    Newt Gingrich claims that Paul Ryan endorsement ‘a great achievement’ for Romney.

    Why? Paul Ryan has zero private sector experience.
    Why should his opinion matter.

  94. DW says:

    the E in negotiator is a very short vowel sound. Almost a half-vowel. Almost pronounced ngotiator. Most would not pronounce the word with a longer vowel sound like you hear if you were going to say the legitimate word niggardly.

    The anti-war government nig-gardly reaching out to our troops

    I suppose he could have recovered that way. Although I recall someone once losing their career after legitimately using the word niggardly.

  95. Emerica says:

    Fat Toad must think Paul Ryan is one of the “great thinkers” of the party in league with himself of course the “great debater.”


  96. GF says:

    Although I recall someone once losing their career after legitimately using the word niggardly.

    Comment by DW — March 30, 2012 @ 3:19 pm

    Indeed, it was a city finance guy for the District of Columbia some years back. He successfully challenged the firing in court as I recall (producing a dictionary as a piece of exculpatory evidence).

  97. Emerica says:

    Santorum’s Racist Welfare Rant: ‘I Don’t Want To Make Black People’s Lives Better’ With Taxpayer Money

    At a campaign stop in Sioux City, Iowa on Sunday, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum singled out blacks as being recipients of assistance through federal benefit programs, telling a mostly-white audience he doesn’t want to “make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money.” […]
    It is unclear why Santorum pinpointed blacks specifically as recipients of federal aid.

    (Santorum claimed he said “bla” people not black people the following day)

  98. Ronnie hates Jooz says:

    Fat Toad must think Paul Ryan is one of the “great thinkers” of the party in league with himself of course the “great debater.”


    Comment by Emerica — March 30, 2012 @ 3:20 pm

    Ryan IS a great thinker in the party, you anti-Semitic b@st@rd. Indeed, he has contributed much more policy-wise than your boy has surreptitiously porked in bills he sponsored, amended and then voted against when passage was guaranteed (quite a feat), though Ryan’s newsletters are not nearly as entertaining. Perhaps he should hire Lew Rockwell to ghost-write them.

  99. Emerica says:

    Like Paul Ryan’s weepy speech in support of TARP?

  100. Emerica says:

    Ryan is a party stair climber. He pulls votes and does what the leadership and interest groups want in exchange for a chance for more power and leadership positions.

    Dick Armey famously bragged about how happy he was to retire so he could cash in and make the big bucks in exchange for influence. Now he runs “freedom works” which is a pseudo libertarian group.

  101. Emerica says:

    Ryan’s weepy speech in support of the 1 trillion dollar TARP is probably his biggest accomplishment as it was such a close vote.

    He was able to pull the “tea Party” vote with him for a narrow victory for the GOP leadership.

  102. DW says:

    trying to figure out what Santorum was going to say after nig- is reminding me of the legendary statement by Ted Kennedy that for years people tried to figure out…

    “And we’re going to start on the 96 campaign to re-elect Bill Clinton, and re-elec um on the cumb uh bum.”

  103. SusyQue says:

    #105…”and re-elec um on the cumb uh bum.”


  104. DW says:

    106…that’s the point. people have tried to figure it out and no one has been successful.

  105. DW says:

    But the funny part is, the crowd cheered after Kennedy said that.

  106. Brandon says:

    Just had time to further look at this Rasmussen poll. It has Romney winning the Very Conservative and Evangelical vote. I just don’t see that happening.

  107. Bitterlaw says:

    Kennedy was obviously referring to Bill Clinton wearing a cumberbund with his tuxedo when he attended the Inaugural Balls.

  108. jan says:

    No wonder Rush like Santorum.

  109. Emerica says:

    If the Bushes and Doles are endorsing a candidate, that should tell people to avoid supporting that person, Romney.

  110. DrJay says:

    DW, I hear a “lazy k” sound. What are your options there? Like “nickels” spoken lazily…

    not disagreeing, just exploring options.

  111. Brandon says:

    Judge strikes down part of WI union laws.

  112. janz says:

    According to that ruling, Brandon, the unions can reinstate the automatic withdrawal of union dues, to be done no later than May 31st. Wasn’t this a major hub of Walker’s collective bargaining reform?

  113. Ronnie hates Jooz says:

    116- How is it that the PInkos get to judge shop all the itme, but we have trouble doing so? Tommy T ran that little state like a dictator for years, yet we have no judges favourable to us?

  114. DW says:

    115….k and g can sound similar. I hear g when listening to that clip. But lets see, if its K then,

    ‘The anti-war, government nig-‘

    was really

    ‘The anti-war, government Knick’s fan’

    no, how about…

    ‘The anti-war, government knickers-wearing opponent of sweater-vests’

    no, that’s not it either…

    ‘The anti-war, government nick-knack paddy-whack, give your dog a bone’

    no, that’s not quite right either…if only there was a word that was spelled n-i-g-g-e-r, that would seem to fit what he was saying perfectly.

  115. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Maybe he said nic or nik or nick


    But again no word sttarting like that makes sense here

  116. DrJay says:

    CNN: Canada getting rid of the penny to save costs

  117. SusyQue says:

    #120 …DW…You are good at remembering your childhood rhymes. (:-)

  118. DrJay says:

    Maybe he wanted to say something about race-baiting, and his mind went to the most racist thing it could imagine.

    Looks bad no matter what for Rick.

  119. DrJay says:

    “Maybe he wanted to say something about race-baiting…”

    Not sure how presidential that would be either.

  120. Emerica says:

    Santorum must consider himself “pro-war” if he thinks Obama is the opposite as an anti-war government #$%#@$%.

    Don’t forget about Santorum’s misleading ad he was running that told voters he served in the armed services.

  121. jenny-former republican says:

    rush is popping pills again. he supported mitt in 2008 but now, mitt is too liberal. rush is afraid that a moderate will win and govern effectively. what becomes of the conservative movement if that happens?

  122. Diogenes says:

    William Martin Conley is a federal judge on the United States District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin. He was nominated in 2009 by President Obama and joined the court in 2010.

    These liberal scumbags are an abomination to real justice.

  123. Annie says:

    105 – DW – But then, perhaps Kennedy had an excuse, like, either drinking or showing early signs of brain cancer.

  124. bio mom says:

    Many more moderate conservatives have started tuning Rush out since this primary began. So he has to double down to please his true believers.

  125. Enjolras says:


    A Romney Presidency kills the Conservative movement and shores up the nanny state.

    That’s exactly what Rush (and people like yours truly) fear.

    I oppose effective governance. The founding fathers intended that we self govern, not be governed effectively.

  126. Diogenes says:

    “I oppose effective governance. The founding fathers intended that we self govern, not be governed effectively.”

    Wow. The rabbit hole goes very, very deep … into insanity.

  127. DW says:

    124…what my honest opinion is, is that in the context, Rick had reached a pause in the speech where he was going to crank up another verbal slam on Obama…so here is what he said in full “We know….we know…the candidate Barack Obama–what he was like the anti-war government nig–uh the ff the. America was a source of division around the world”

    Rick wanted to say something that went with anti-war, like government hating, but as he was about to say that, he realized, that he believed his audience, and tea-party types ARE government hating, and that’s not what he should say. So chopped the word hating as he was saying it, and all that came out was nig. The fact that what came after nig was “uh the ff the” clearly indicates that knew he blew it. We will never know for sure, but that’s the best defense of Santorum I could come up with. Its pretty weak, as there is very little that can come after nig that doesn’t end your career.

  128. Enjolras says:


    I must tell you that, while I’ll be the first to admit that my grasp on sanity is tenuous at best, you’re probably not the best individual on this site to point that out.


  129. bio mom says:

    What exactly is this conservative movement that is so threatened so easily?

  130. Enjolras says:


    Government handouts are a far more effective opiate for the masses than is Liberty through limited Government.

    The entire course of Human History bares that out too…

    How many societies were every truly free? Ours was til the Teddy Roosevelt administration.

    Trust busting was the first step.

  131. Brandon says:

    Keith Olbermann fired by Current TV. Show will be replaced with a new Eliot Spitzer show.

  132. janz says:

    I’m not a fan of Santorum. However, it seems people are loading up on every misstep of his too much, seizing on any and all opportunities to use his words against him.

  133. Emerica says:

    Santorum is known for climbing through the party by selling out his principles and his own beliefs.

    Santorum recently told an audience that he believes that sometimes he politicians needed to put aside principle to ‘take one for the team.’

  134. DW says:

    140…well at least I tried to be fair and present as plausable defense as I could for him. Government nig = Government hating. It fits the context, and would make sense why he suddenly realized it would not be prudent to say Government hating.

  135. bio mom says:

    140. Like what is done to Romney constantly.

  136. jan says:

    Is that Olbermann thing true? I forgot he was even on t.v anymore.

  137. jan says:

    It’s true. This guy must have some serious issues. He’s been fired from every place he’s been at.

  138. Bitterlaw says:

    A Romney Presidency kills the Conservative movement and shores up the nanny state. – Jul

    Jul – What happens to the Conservative Movement after Obama appoints 2 more Supreme Court Justices? We are living on the razor’s edge of 5-4 Decisions now. I know you think Romney will appoint ultra libs despite there being no evidence of this.

  139. Tim V says:

    bitter, i don’t think you named your fav evangelical today…

  140. janz says:

    Tit for tat

    Obama is now asking for Romney’s tax returns, all the way back to the 1980’s. In response, Romney is asking Obama to release all transcripts of his meetings with world leaders.

    #143 True. But, IMO, two wrongs don’t make a right. Or, maybe I’m just getting tired of all the back-bitting when there are so many other important issues to grapple with.

  141. DW says:

    147…and if I might add, even if Romney appoints a few squishes like current justice Kennedy, which court would you rather have?

    Kennedy (in place of Scalia)
    Kennedy (in place of Ginsburg)
    Kennedy (in place of Kennedy)

    or this one:

    Kagan (in place of Scalia)
    Kagan (in place of Ginsburg)
    Kagan (in place of Kennedy)

    We know that Obama can find a lot more Kagans out there.

  142. DW says:

    Tim V. I was so named.

  143. janz says:

    A Romney Presidency kills the Conservative movement and shores up the nanny state. – Jul


    Why would Jul assert this? What has Romney done to indicate he would ‘shore’ up a nanny state?

  144. DrJay says:

    What is Current TV?

  145. Waingro says:

    #154, that’s what makes it even funnier.

  146. Annie says:

    A re-posting of an Ann Coulter article about how Romney governs – especially for Jul:

  147. Scott says:

    Regarding the Obama-appointed Judge disallowing prohibiting public employers from not automatically withholding union dues,he basis his opinion on free speech rights.Ostensibly,that Walker et al wanted to shut-up the unions from challenging the newly minted law.
    This reasoning,if not the whole denial,will be overturned on appeal.

  148. janz says:

    Michael Walsh has written one of the most clever tongue-in-cheek diatribes on Obamacare, to date:

    Sherlock Holmes meets Occam’s Razor

    “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth,” said Sherlock Holmes. The recent three-day intellectual demolition of Obamacare at the Supreme Court exposed to even the most obtuse lefty the flimsy constitutional underpinnings of the so-called “health care” law. The Patient Deflection and Unaffordable Care Act is now well on its way to zombie status, still staggering around in the form of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, knocking things off shelves and making growling sounds in the direction of religious folk, just waiting for the head shot from the Roberts Court to put it out of its misery.

    As has become plainer every day, the “health care” bill was never about health care. In fact, it has nothing to do with health care or insurance at all. It simply uses one of the Left’s favorite “humanitarian” bludgeons, medical care and an invented fear of its absence, in order to persuade the gullible to forgo an important constitutional principle in exchange for wholly bogus, state-run “compassion.”

    Bold highlights are mine.

  149. DW says:

    158…and the best part of it…dozens of Dem house members and a few senators gave up their political careers to get this passed.

  150. DW says:

    Somewhere here in VA_02, former Dem Congressman Glenn Nye is walking the oceanfront picking up clam shells, and occasionally finding a nice whelk shell. And he didn’t even vote for Obamacare, getting a waiver from Nancy Pelosi.

  151. janz says:

    yes, DW, there were many democrateic political career sacrifices made for this legislative insanity, called, by it’s new more appropriate name, “The Patient Deflection and Unaffordable Care Act.” I just love that name!

  152. Tim V says:

    Current TV Dismisses Keith Olbermann

    good news bears repeating.

  153. lisab says:

    the dems that were thrwn ut

    and their staffs

    will be pissed if they lost their jobs for nothing

  154. MFG says:

    Well I’ll believe its overturned when I see it

  155. DW says:

    164…yep…taking nothing for granted. Its a long time till June.

  156. janz says:

    I don’t mean to be flooding the thread with so many HC articles. But, the literary grounds, out there, are exploding with wonderful comments. It’s as if every seasoned writer has found passion to take out a red pencil and find fault with the ACA, as well as hopeful joy that it will be struck down.

    Here is another such essay, which also encapsulates the state and success rate of the progressive movement, in general, into his commentary.

    The health care disaster and the miseries of blue

    But the health care law’s troubles shed some further light on the crisis of American progressivism and the blue social model it has built. Those who believe in the blue model and want to extend it have lost their touch; the dream machines of the blue social engineers don’t sail serenely across the azure sky anymore. Think of the various carbon exchanges and environmental planetary schemes; think of high speed rail proposals like California’s $100 billion train to bankruptcy; think of Obamacare. These days the experts, “social entrepreneurs” and smart young blue twenty somethings fresh out of the Ivy League whomp up social programs with as much verve and dedication as their New Deal and Great Society predecessors, but the new Dreamliners don’t take off. At most they roll around the runway, emitting clouds of noxious smoke; wings fall off, windows pop out, turbines misfire and the tires go flat.

  157. Robbie says:

    Robbie, Powerline has a good blog on Kennedy’s opinion based on individual liberty on Citizens United that could give you a little more confidence:

    Just watch out for that Wobbles dude.

    Comment by Ray J. Tuleya — March 30, 2012 @ 12:53

    Thanks for the link.

  158. SusyQue says:

    #167…janz…I make good use of all your posts on HHR. Never stop we need that information or at least I do. Kudos to all the gals
    who post on HHR!

  159. lisab says:

    in obama’s america

    we have racists offering bounties to kill a man who hasn’t been tried

    as a corrupt doj and and a government packed with racists look the other way as witnesses are intimidated

    and the people who support these actions wear hoods

  160. SusyQue says:

    Paul Ryan’s trust in Mitt Romney:

    Here’s Paul Ryan quoted in The Hill note linked above:
    “We vote here Tuesday in Wisconsin. Lots of my friends, family, supporters are asking me, you know, ‘Who do you think we should vote for?’ I have two criteria I am using to make my decision to vote in our primary Tuesday. Who is the best person to be president – who will be the best president? And who has the best chance of defeating Barack Obama? And in my mind, Mitt Romney is clearly that person.”

  161. SusyQue says:

    Victor David Hansen: ooo has bad judgment. (he said it twice)
    ooo cannot be trusted as was obvious in ooo’s “flexibility”
    comment to the Russian president.

  162. jason says:

    ” A Romney Presidency kills the Conservative movement and shores up the nanny state.”


    What kills the conservative movement and shores up the nanny state is a second Obama term.

    One Scotus appointment changes the court to liberal for 20 years. That will be a momentous change, I doubt conservatives could recover. Amnesty, fairness act, unrestricted union power, no voter ID and changes in voting laws to benefit Democrats forever, plus free goodies for so many people Republicans will be decimated.

    Romney is not the enemy. It’s Obama.

  163. lisab says:

    not giving amnesty would probably become unconstitutional

  164. Tim says:

    Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegals in 1986. There went that talking point………

  165. Ronnie hates Jooz says:

    That is correct, Tim. However, that number has ballooned far beyond 3 million.

  166. Tim says:

    My point being, it is the Conservatives who keep trying to use this as an issue. And, all the time, it is they who actually did it. Not to mention, a recent “compassionate Conservative” President tried to do the same.

    All of this railing about this issue from the Right is driving Hispanic voters away in droves.

    No reason to do it, either. Nothing like this has any chance in Congress, for the forseeable future…

  167. Brandon says:

    Don’t you know, Tim, Republicans have a goal of trying to get to a point where they’ll need 70% of the white vote in order to win an election.

  168. Wobbles says:

    I see that my name keeps being mentioned. I am a Santorum supporter, but will vote for Obama. The other person is a Romney supporter, but will vote for?

  169. Wobbles says:

    Obama will be able to get more stealth picks like Kagan in there. Promote a policy that is endorsed by the future supereme court pick , pass the bill, and then have your pick get on the court.

  170. Wobbles says:

    One ore more mathematicians here will also support Obama.

  171. SoHope says:

    1. I don’t think a Santorum was starting to say the “N” word.

    2. Anyone got a link to Ted Kennedy’s crazy unintellegable rant about Bill Clinton?

    3. Romney will appoint as conservative a SC Justice as the Senate will allow.

  172. Tim says:

    They shall find that goal more difficult to attain, with each passing year. If you and I can clearly see that, why can’t the GOP Leadership recognize it?

  173. Smart Alec says:

    Hispanics are white when its convenient… the MSM told me so.

  174. Gpo says:

    Romney may or may not be a squish – but no shot he opposes anyone other than a stu to the sc- conserva would revolt like against Harriet . He has bork as his man on judges

  175. Bitterlaw says:

    Hispanic Democrats are only white right wing extremists when they shoot unarmed black teenagers.

  176. Brandon says:

    #183. Because they feel the need to appease the far-right of the party.

  177. mnw says:


    Post 55 is absolutely correct!

    I’ve been posting similar views about zero’s SOTU SCOTUS cheapshot here for days!

    Most of human history is based on blood lust– sheer feral desire to kill the other.

    Au contraire BL, the SCOTUS judges are successful politician/lawyers not much different than anybody else– in many ways more feral than most average citizens.

    As Barbara Tuchman said, “Times change, but human nature never changes.”

    Every one of those 5 ‘conservative’ justices sat there & SEETHED while zero cheapshoted & blindsided them on national TV. Humiliated, gagged & helpless– a laughingstock before the whole nation– thanks to zero!

    If you tell me “these brilliant men & women are above all that petty resentment stuff,” I’ll tell you that you don’t study either history or human nature.

    The HELL they aint!

  178. Jeff G. says:


    And he regreted it.

  179. Bitterlaw says:

    Boold statement – IF Zimmerman was not physically attacked but just decided to shoot, drop the hammer on him to the fullest extent of Florida law. If he was physically attacked, play it out and give the appropriate penalty (which may be no penalty). Pretty daring statment, right?

  180. SoHope says:

    I am with bitter on this one…

  181. DrJay says:

    The Rev. Al Sharpton said Friday his National Action Network will “move to the next level” if George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

    Sharpton called for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions, although he did not say what those sanctions might be.

    Turner Clayton, the Seminole County chapter president of the NAACP, reacted immediately to Sharpton’s warning, saying, “We hope that the citizens of Sanford will govern themselves accordingly. We are not calling for any sanctions, against any business or anyone else. And, of course, what Rev. Sharpton does, that’s strictly the [National] Action Network. We can’t condone that part of the conversation, if that’s what he said.”

  182. Brandon says:

    From the security video, you can clearly see that it was not murder.

  183. Tina says:

    Let’s offer another round of amnesty, it just divides further the Republicans.

    And how well did McAmnesty do among the Hispanics?

  184. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, Hope. You do know I already announced Favorite Evangelical, right? Maybe it was all that public school education but I try to take race out of things as much as I can. I wonder why it bothers me more that 300+ blacks will be killed by other blacks in Philadelphia this year than it bothers Al Sharpton.

  185. Tina says:

    Al Sharpton needs to be fired from MSLSD.

    They keep pushing the Obumbler to the extreme on this one. He wanted to score cheap political points, but is only further dividing the nation.

  186. Emerica says:

    I know a lot of people who used to be Paul Ryan supporters and who supported the guy from the very start of career.

    None of them support him now after TARP, and I’m not making this up either. He’s viewed as a party hack in his own district.

  187. Tina says:

    I am still amazed that ABC missed the injury, but Daily Caller caught the injury (after freezing and blowing up the tape).

  188. Bitterlaw says:

    I find it hard to believe that Ron Paul’s bitch, Bunu, knows any Paul Ryan supporters or even real Republicans (not Ron Paul infiltrators).

  189. mnw says:

    I think we should trade U.S. citizenship for any foreign citizen of ANY nation who is willing to join the U.S. armed services! /s

    We can call the new units, “The Foreign Legion U.S. Marine Corps,” & that way, our own precious kids can go to the beach & let ‘the expendables’ do the dying for us! /s

    George III tried that w/ the Hessians, & it worked out really well! /s

    And the French Foreign Legion made France what it is today! /no-S

    Condottieri! Let the hired mercenaries do our dying FOR us. Why not? /s

  190. lisab says:

    Study: Conservatism ‘linked to low brainpower’…

    A research team led by University of Arkansas psychologist Scott Eidelman argues that conservatism — which the researchers identify as “an emphasis on personal responsibility, acceptance of hierarchy, and a preference for the status quo” — may be our default ideology. If we don’t have the time or energy to give a matter sufficient thought, we tend to accept the conservative argument.

    “When effortful, deliberate responding is disrupted or disengaged, thought processes become quick and efficient,” the researchers write in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin. “These conditions promote conservative ideology.”

  191. NJConservative says:

    I don’t think people realize how big of an amnesty RINO Marco Rubio is.

  192. Tina says:

    I read that Rube Paul is coming to SF, I wonder which Drat he will endorse.

  193. DW says:

    I read an interesting article that Kennedy and Roberts, both Catholics, may have had a strong reaction at Obamacare requiring Catholic churches to violate their faith.

  194. Emerica says:


    Perhaps Rubio and Kyl are trying to get their legislation through before they lose the Obama presidency.

    Romney might not sign it for them if he were to win?

  195. SusyQue says:

    #205…DW…Do you have a url for the article you read about?

  196. lisab says:

    Climate Change Skepticism a Sickness That Must be “Treated,” Says Professor

    Global warming alarmist equates climate denial with racism

    Comparing skepticism of man-made global warming to racist beliefs, an Oregon-based professor of sociology and environmental studies has labeled doubts about anthropogenic climate change a “sickness” for which individuals need to be “treated”.

  197. lisab says:

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A Shelby County mother is facing contempt-of-court charges and possible jail time for baptizing her two children without the knowledge or consent of her ex-husband.

  198. lisab says:

    You know how GOP comentators have been ragging on the ladies pretty hard lately? Well, something kinda predictable has happened

    Obama leads Mitt Romney by 52%-35% in Wisconsin, according to a new NBC News/Marist Poll — thanks in large part to a 25-point lead among women voters, 55%-30%.

  199. Tim V says:

    thanks in large part to a 25-point lead among women voters, 55%-30%.

    19th amendment needs to be repealed

  200. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe in securing the border and e-verify with heavy penalties on employers. I do not believe in there never being a way for Hispanic people who leave the US and then return legally to become citizens. How do we accomplish that? I don’t know.

  201. emerica says:

    Funny, I oppose touchback scams and the E-verify systems.

    The grand compromise\grand bargains will always be a bad deal for conservatives.

  202. Emerica says:

    Don’t forget the last go around when Kyl and Hutchinson were pushing bad bills the special interest groups approved.

    684 page McCain-Kennedy bill to increase immigration by 193 million immigrants over 10 years.

  203. Emerica says:

    It’s unbelievable that McCain was the GOP nominee btw.

    Why didn’t they run Ted Kennedy?

  204. Walt says:

    Which is it?

    After several years of observing him in office, is it that:

    A. Obammer has nary a clue about how the economy works


    B. He understands exactly how the U.S. economy works and is determined to destroy the current system.

  205. SusyQue says:

    #216…Walt…you hit the nail on the head concerning ooo.

  206. DrJay says:

    No IRS Investigation into SC Governor Nikki Haley

    “ABC News has learned that the Internal Revenue Service never conducted an investigation into South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley’s involvement in a Sikh temple’s finances…

    Eric Hill, a program manager at the IRS, said in a separate letter to Haley’s chief of staff Tim Pearson that “we determined an examination was not warranted at that time.”

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    Another Right Wing coverup!

  208. mnw says:

    |At present, Rubio & his lameduck buddies can stand on their heads |& scream “|Dream Act! Amnesty!” all they want, & it will NEVER get through the House.

    I did say “at present.”

    If Mourdock beats Lugar, it will be a non-starter in the Senate, too.

  209. mark oh says:

    Maybe Dave won the Mega Millions jackpot!

  210. Bitterlaw says:

    Dave would obviously share it with us. We helped him win his 2010 Mobbies Award!

  211. Tina says:

    These Rino politicians need to stop with this Amnesty stop. It just divides the Republicans.

    Can’t they focus on the economy, unemployment, domestic energy, etc.

  212. NJConservative says:

    Why anybody would want Rubio on the ticket is beyond me. He’s MUCH more of an amnesty whore than McCain was and he was APPALING.

  213. Tina says:

    I am also convinced that Rubio is just Palin redux. Very little experience.

  214. SoHope says:

    NJCon apparently was transfered back here to troll again.

    I wonder if it was a promotion or a demotion or promotion.

  215. SoHope says:

    I have no problem with path to citizenship for those serving in the military.

    Rubio has a law degree, was FL Speaker of the House, a US Senator, with some good committee assignments, and can talk without sounding stupid…he is no Palin.

  216. SoHope says:

    …but of course as I have said before I am conflicted on immigration. I generally am amnesty, but am very well aware of fact that if we allow certain people to destroy us with hispanic voters then we are screwed in future elections (if not this one).

  217. SoHope says:

    *generally against amnesty

  218. Tina says:

    Yes, he has experience on the local/state level, but little nationally.

    I do like him, was one of the first ones here to support him over Crist for Senate.

  219. Brandon says:

    SoHope, I don’t see what’s the big deal of pissing off the fastest growing demographic. It’s not like will you need them to win elections or anything.

  220. SoHope says:

    More national experience than Obama had and they elected him for the #1 spot.


    Law degree
    Interned for Rep Ros-Lehtinen
    City commisioner in Miama
    FL House of Representatives
    Speaker of the House
    -Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
    -Committee on Foreign Relations
    -Select Committee on Intelligence
    -Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship

    He has been racking up accomplishments in the Senate as well.

  221. bio mom says:

    Obama at 47 in ras today. Tied with Romney, up 5 on Santorum.

  222. Scott says:

    #233-bio mom
    You are fast!I was just about to post the same Ras data.Also,Obama’s disapproval rating today is 52% and his Approval Intensity is -13.
    Yesterday in Gallup,Obama’s approval/ disapproval was 44%/47%,respectively.

  223. Bitterlaw says:

    Hope – I am conflicted as well. I will gladly trade 4 Mexican landscapers as citizens for a few Democtrats on my street.

  224. Tina says:

    I say focus on the economy and not even try to do amnesty. It will be divisive. McAmnesty got no credit, the R nominee will get no credit.

    Pissing people off is a red herring.

  225. Tina says:

    Again, how did McAmnesty do with the fastest growing population?

  226. SoHope says:

    Amnesty or not their American born children will or are voting.

    The question is do we let them become 95% democrats like AA’s or 60%…or make immigration more of a moot point and let them vote on social issues in which they are more conservative on in general.

  227. Tina says:

    He needs to be around 40 percent approval nationally for us to win the GE.

  228. SoHope says:

    how did GWB do with them?

  229. Tina says:

    There are better issues out there than amnesty. It’s kind of like Spendmorum saying the major issue is a social issue, and not the economy.

    Makes little to no sense. You will only alienate your base and will not win the Hispanic vote.

  230. pitchaboy says:

    Obama is Mr. 45%. The rest is statistic al noise. He will end up with no more than 48%.

  231. Tina says:

    Focus on the economy, unemployment, inflation, gasoline aka energy security, and our prestige abroad.

    Those are the issues. Please no amnesty and social issues.

  232. Tina says:

    He starts off with 45-47 percent as his base. We need to get the primary over quickly. Hope that Romney does not tact left though. Got a feeling that he will go on his bashing conservative tour.

    I think he needs to get Christie to be the Veep. Somebody, that is a pit bull.

  233. Tina says:

    For this election, the R nominee simply needs to look at Reagan 1980 and Nixon 1972. Reagan – economy and national security.

    Nixon – silent majority. President out to get whitey.

  234. SoHope says:

    pissing off voters is very relevant and not a red herring.

    It is like we are debating poll taxes and Jim Crow…I know it isn’t the same, but that is what dem bashing us over the head with.

  235. Tina says:

    Oh please, if you bring up amnesty when the election can be won on the economy and energy independence, then we will look like we did in 2008.

    That issue only divides the Republicans.

  236. jason says:

    Saying Rubio is pro-amnesty is a stretch. As one of the most anti-amnesty posters here, I have never heard him advocate amnesty and in fact he opposed the Dream Act.

  237. SoHope says:

    and unites hispanics

  238. Tina says:

    I do not agree with the premise:

    Amnesty – Hispanic voters will like us.

    No amnesty – Hispanic voters hate us.

    I do agree with the economy is in poor shape, unemployment is too high, inflation is too high, gasoline is over $4.00, and incomes are falling.

  239. NJConservative says:

    HELLO jason. Rubio is trying to SPONSOR a Dream Act now with Kyl and Hutchison!

  240. Tina says:

    I just wish Rubio was better seasoned. I also worry that if Romney goes down, Rubio goes down. His future is really bright, but the bench will be worse off.

  241. Tina says:

    And anyone advocating for Jeb Bush, or another Bush, should get his or head examined.

  242. jason says:

    ” I don’t think people realize how big of an amnesty RINO Marco Rubio is.”

    Now Rubio is a RINO too?

    I don’t think people realize how many so called conservatives are morons.

  243. Tina says:

    Anyway, good and friendly discussion So Hope. I am done for now, it’s breakfast time.

  244. SoHope says:

    Calling everything “Amnesty” other than building a 80 foot wall with machine gun nests, landmines, a moat with crocodiles, and sharks with laser beams is a problem. I liken it to the birth control issue.

    Path to citizenship for those that have served in the military…end it there.

  245. Scott says:

    Do any of our State experts know how the Senate races are going for the GOP in Montana,North Dakota,Missouri and CT?

  246. jason says:

    I don’t oppose a Dream Act with some teeth in it. Not back door amnesty where you enroll in a $59 community college course and get amnesty. Have a quota for the best and the brightest to compete, where they actually have to graduate in something meaningful, with good grades, etc. Or serve honorably in the military for a certain length of time, etc.

    In other words, if these people really want to stay, let them earn it.

    That would eliminate the “magnet” effect, because it would not just suffice to be here.

  247. jason says:

    Hey NJ conservative, since Ryan, Coburn, DeMint, Rubio, etc are all RINOS, who is left?

  248. SoHope says:

    Thanks Tina…HHR occasionally does have polite debates

  249. NJConservative says:

    My congressman Scott Garrett is a true-blood conservative.

  250. SoHope says:

    is it too late for him to oppose Romney? He is our last hope!!!

  251. jason says:

    But Tina is right on one thing. I had this argument with Chekote many times. Trying to out pander Democrats with Hispanics or any other group will not win us elections.

  252. jason says:

    ” My congressman Scott Garrett is a true-blood conservative.”

    That was yesterday. Did you check today? He could have said something since that made him a RINO.

  253. NYCmike says:

    If I remember correctly, NJConservative was against Christie, and pushing Steve Lonegan, who is great, but would have lost to Corzine in the Governors race. A “pure” conservative will not win in NJ. Sorry, but it is true. Kind of like Rudy as Mayor, although he would have been the best choice in 2008, against Obama.

    NJCON, if that was not the case, I apologize beforehand.

  254. NYCmike says:

    Scott Garrett is very good, as far as I have seen him in the news.

  255. NJConservative says:

    Steve Lonegan is a true American patriot and he should be our Governor now instead of our bumbling bloviator we have now.

  256. SoHope says:

    NJC, you are a tool.

  257. NYCmike says:

    #268 – The people who had money with MF Global would rather have seen Corzine run against Lonegan. They might still have that money, because Corzine would still be Governor.