Tuesday Morning (Obama Leads Romney By 7%)

Last year, the Baltimore Orioles started 4-0 and managed to finish a pathetic 69-93. This year, they are doing even worse, starting at 3-1 after yesterday’s loss. Will 50 wins be a struggle this year?

ABC News and The Washington Post are out with their new national poll claiming Barack Obama has opened up a 7% lead over Mitt Romney.

Barack Obama (D-inc) 51%
Mitt Romney (R) 44%

Barack Obama (D-inc) 52%
Rick Santorum (R) 42%

Just looking at the internal numbers of this poll, if Romney can get the election back to the economy, he actually holds an edge on some of these issues. Unfortunately he still has to deal with the self-proclaimed conservatives waffling back and forth on whom they think is “more conservative”, Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich, so that one of them can finally…finally…be the anti-Romney. This poll was done April 5-8 among 1103 adults.

The Maryland winner of the Mega Millions jackpot has decided to remain anonymous…so it could be me…you’ll never know….

Posted by Dave at 7:37 am
Filed under: General | Comments (171)

171 Responses to “Tuesday Morning (Obama Leads Romney By 7%)”

  1. Wobbles says:

    Do we toss this poll too? 2008 repeat.

  2. hugh says:

    We are killing ourselves if Santorum care one bit about our country he needs to quit this race now. He is plenty young enough to run again in 4 or 8 years. I hope Huck takes a big whack out of Rush’s misguided audience.

  3. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    Obama is def up but I think +7 is a stretch. I think its more 3-4 point lead

  4. Brandon says:

    New York Poll(Siena)

    GOP Primary

    Romney: 51%
    Santorum: 18%
    Paul: 11%
    Gingrich: 6%

    General Election

    Obama: 60%
    Romney: 35%

    Senate Race

    Gillibrand: 65%
    Turner: 24%

  5. mnw says:

    1100 adults, huh?

  6. ottoman says:

    Look What’s Going On in Charter Schools

    Many charter schools run by a secretive and powerful sect from Turkey called the Gulen Movement.
    Headed by a Turkish preacher named Fethullah Gulen who had already founded a network of schools in 100 other countries, this movement opened its first U.S. charter school in 1999. Gulen’s schools spread rapidly after he figured out how to work our system and get the U.S. taxpayers to import and finance his recruitment of followers for his worldwide religious and social movement.
    The Gulen Movement now operates the largest charter school network in the United States. It has at least 135 schools, teaching more than 45,000 students in at least 26 states, financed by millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars a year.
    The principals and school board members are usually Turkish men. Hundreds of Turkish teachers (referred to as “international teachers”) and administrators have been admitted to the United States, often using H-1B visas, after claiming that qualified Americans cannot be found.

  7. Brandon says:

    I’m pretty sure the horserace numbers are among registered voters.

  8. Phil says:

    Folks, this poll is absolute garbage. In 2008, Obama beat McCain by 7 points. To do that, he carried indies by 9 points. ABC admits Romney is up by 2 pts with independents in this poll — and yet he is down overall by 7 in this poll?

    What does that tell you about the Party ID in this poll? Answer? Plenty!

    Of course, we’ll never know, because, conveniently, ABC quit posting their polling party ID 6 months ago.

    I know I shouldn’t expect better from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the AP, Pew, etc, but this crap just gets old.

  9. OHIO JOE says:

    ” he needs to quit this race now.” Why, so we can crown Mr. Mandate King?

  10. Brandon says:

    Found the crosstabs:

    34%- Democrat
    23%- Republican
    34%- Independent
    5%- Other
    3%- No opinion

  11. LinthicumTodd says:

    Laughable party ID there!

  12. Phil says:


    Thank you! D+11? Bhahahahahahaha!!

    I know it’s registered voters, but in the most Dem year since 1964 in 2008, the electorate was D+7.

    The media strikes again. Just another day in the park.

  13. Brandon says:

    I think the D+11 is among all adults. It doesn’t say what it is among RV’s, naturally of course.

  14. lisab says:

    “now, I know that Liberal Judges ignore the Constitution, ballerinas are good in the sack, and the Chicago thugs play dirty.”

    we are very bendy … 🙂

  15. Phil says:

    Just follow RAS. At least he’s consistent with his party ID which he hard weights. However, ABC generated the desired headline — as per usual.

  16. Scott says:

    I most definitely agree with your conclusion about the new Washington Post/ABC Poll being suspect and basically meaningless for yours and the following additional reasons(in order of importance):
    (1) The Poll and narrative breathlessly ascribe Obama’s rise to a major improvement among women voters.This is too convenient by half and is agenda-driven polling at its worst.For a month,the Obama Administration through the allied MSM have been pushing the storyline about “women’s issues” and,magically,this poll appears to confirm their cheer leading.In fact,the poll added a new question category to its poll called “Who is Better on Women’s Issues?” to go with the Economy,Budget Deficit etc.Can some of our good distaff friends on this thread let us Neandethal men know what a woman’s issue is?I thought women were concerned,like males,about jobs,gas prices,the budget deficit etc.
    (2)A poll is neaningless without crosstabs
    (3) Can a poll taken just before and during Easter weekend be reliable?

  17. Phil says:

    Scott, it’s just the same ol crap from the Pbama networks.

    No different than NBC editing the Zimmerman 911 tape.

    Par for the course. Can’t wait for the next presidential poll from the AP. That one is always a hoot.

  18. bio mom says:

    As a woman I assure you I vote on the same issues as the men do. This year it is the economy, the debt, the intrusiveness of government (government centered society, I like that phrase a lot). It doesn’t hurt that Romney is handsome too.

  19. Scott says:

    #11- Brandon
    If those are the Washington Post/ ABC crosstabs for Party ID, then the polling combine should be sued for POLLING MALPRACTICE!!!!

  20. Scott says:

    #19- bio mom
    Thank you and I thought so.(Yes, and Anne Romney is still a looker!)

  21. bio mom says:

    I am beginning to feel uncomfortable with Rick Santorum’s political use of his sick daughter. This is a statement from his spokesperson today:

    Gidley said the family released a recent picture of Bella “so everyone could see their precious gift from God.”

    Maybe it is just me and I will burn in hell for these thoughts, but sympathy votes in Pennsylvania maybe?? I would prefer that the family keep things private or release generic statements of thanks for the prayers, which they have done. I hope Bella does not become a political prop.

  22. It is simple, they are trying to discourage conservatives by tilting their polls to reflect the turnout they hope to achieve.

  23. Barrett says:

    #23 – Hit the nail on the head

  24. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    bio mom I’ve been suspecting Santorum using his family for political gain as well, I thought it was me but looks like some are catching on…

  25. jason says:

    ” so it could be me…you’ll never know….”

    I hope you will at least consider a donation to the HHR regular poster retirement fund.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    I know I’m a loser and never win elections. However, I do not like the idea of using children as props in campaigns unless they are old enough to choose to be a prop. My children did not want to be in campaign literature so they were not. Maybe that’s why I lost (well, that and sucking as a candidate) but I don’t care.

  27. Curious says:

    Perhaps the posters who live in PA can give us the latest buzz on who really has the edge on the coming primary on the 28th…Romney or Santorum.

  28. jason says:

    I see NJconservative is quoting the NYT….

    How are things in deadend world?

  29. Scott says:

    Ed Morissey at, an excellent polling analyst,really reams the Washington Post/ ABC Poll.

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    I live in a suburb of Philadelphia where Santorum is despised. I will now turn it over to Jason for his report from the Amish/Hispanic farmworkers/Menonite/Evangelical stronghold of Lancaster.

  31. Barrett says:

    I’ll give you a report from York County, Bitter

    They’re eating this Santorum garbage up.

  32. Bitterlaw says:

    Barrett – even at the Harley-Davidson factory? They always seemed more business oriented.

  33. EML says:

    PA’s new voter ID law will suppress the Amish vote, handing the victory to Romney 😀

  34. jason says:

    28. You rannnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg…….?

    Santorum will probably win South Central PA where I live, this is a very conservative area.

    But I think Santorum will lose badly in the Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs and ex-burbs, and that is why Intrade has Romney at 83% to win vs. 15% for Santorum.

    Very few people think Santorum has any chance, and I think that will wipe out his home court advantage.

  35. bio mom says:

    A tweet up now:

    RT @AbelHarding: President Obama and Mitt Romney tied at 43 percent in Jacksonville, acc. to new University of North Fla. poll. #sayfie

  36. jason says:

    Yahoo Headline

    Obama leads Romney and gender gap grows.

    Pravda and Izvestia would be proud….

  37. Bitterlaw says:

    South Central PA is a worl unto itself. I remember going to Gettysburg once on a Sunday. The only football game on the radio and tv was a Redskins game. I did not see any Eagles or Steelers stuff on cars but the Redskins were dominant.

  38. jason says:

    ” PA’s new voter ID law will suppress the Amish vote,”

    It might at that, the Amish don’t usually carry ID’s, don’t have driver’s licenses or passports, and don’t like to have their picture taken. They don’t usually participate in the social security system, but have numbers so they can open bank accounts, file tax returns, buy property, etc.

    PA allows for ID’s without pictures if it violates your religious beliefs, I wonder if the ID’s without picture can be used to vote.

  39. jason says:

    38. There are some Raven fans around. But the most popular sports bumper sticker is for the Hershey Bears.

  40. Amos Stoltzfuss says:


    Why do you associate with the English? Their ways are not our ways. At least that awful Cheksux is gone.

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    I just don’t see where Santorum can make up the numbers he is going to lose in the area surrounding Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Maybe the Lehigh Valley (Allentown, Bethlehem and Easton). Jul said that people are less educated there and like Santorum. Those were his words, not mine.

  42. jason says:

    Hey Uncle Amos!

    Haven’t seen you since the Fall mule auction…

    Thought you might enjoy this picture…

  43. Scott says:

    In today’s Ras’ polling:
    Obama approval/ disapproval 47%(down 2) to 52%(up 2).
    Romney and Obama tied at 45%

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – those are mighty fine mules. God is good to that farmer.

  45. jason says:

    BALTIMORE (Reuters) – An elementary school teacher, a special education teacher and another public school worker in Maryland shared one of three winning tickets for the record U.S. $656 million Mega Millions jackpot, Maryland Lottery officials announced on Tuesday.

    Ok, we can stop sucking up to Dave……

  46. jason says:

    I guess Mirlande Wilson or whatever her name was at MacDonald’s was full of crap.

  47. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I admired her press conference. Most people do not call a press conference to ask that the press not bother them.

  48. pitchaboy says:

    For the national numbers, just follow RAS tracking of LV. The rest of the guys are garbage and they will adjust their numbers in late October to preserve their relevance.

  49. Bitterlaw says:


  50. Brandon says:

    Bill Parcells won’t be the Saints coach this year, according to Chris Mortensen.

  51. jason says:

    48. She was probably the only person who won 200 million, misplaced her ticket, and then said she was still going to “check her work pants” for it.

  52. Brandon says:

    Five game suspension for Ozzie Guillen.

  53. jason says:

    I bet her lawyer feels like a jackass. Next time before he takes on such a case he might ask to see the ticket first.

  54. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    That’s a shame brandon I was hoping parcells would get the job

  55. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Suspended for what?

    His comments were idiotic but this is free speech

  56. Bobby says:

    He works for a Privately owned team, they can do what they want.

  57. Phil says:

    My question as well. Why the suspension?

  58. Stretch Pelosi says:

    I am shocked

    “President Obama’s landmark health-care initiative, long touted as a means to control costs, will actually add more than $340 billion to the nation’s budget woes over the next decade, according to a new study by a Republican member of the board that oversees Medicare financing.”

  59. jason says:

    I wish you guys would stop nitpicking Obamacare.

    Outside of being unconstitutional, raising costs and decreasing quality, it’s a pretty good bill.

  60. jason says:

    Who is Ozzie and what did he say?

  61. DantheMan says:

    *** Breaking News *****

    PPP will be releasing NC and CO polls showing Obama widening his lead in both states .

  62. Brandon says:

    Manager of the Miami Marlins: “I love Fidel Castro”

  63. janz says:

    bio mom, better watch what you say about Santorum and his daughter (post #22), as Ray J. Tuleya will call it ‘dispictable,’ to even nuance anything untowards about Santorum publicly bringing his sick daughter into the political fray. Author agreed with bio mom’s comment. So, he too is on shakey ground with Ray.

  64. david says:

    These national polls do not bother me. What concerns me are the state polls….like the PPP Colorado. I need CO if we don’t win VA

  65. jason says:

    ” he needs to quit this race now.” Why, so we can crown Mr. Mandate King?”

    No, so we don’t have to re-elect Mr. Mandate King.

  66. pitchaboy says:

    Simple rule. If Obama in below 48% nationally, he aint getting most of the swing states. Period.

  67. david says:

    I thought for so along with IN that NC was a sure pickup

  68. pitchaboy says:

    You can lose the national vote by a percent or two and still get to EV. But if you are down nationally over 3 points, you will not get the EV needed. It hs never happened since this republic existed and is not about to happen.

  69. jason says:

    66. PPP is bought and paid for by DKos. Read their comments that accompany the polls, it’s hilarious. “We” against “them”. Tom Jensen is a rabid Democrat and as partisan as they come.

    Anyone who believes any state poll they do 7 months before the election needs to appoint a guardian immediately.

  70. jason says:

    Obama got 53% in a perfect storm. I doubt there will be a perfect storm twice in a row. Steady as she goes.

  71. Waingro says:

    Investor’s Business Daily/Christian Science Monitor/TIPP Poll:

    Barry: 46%
    Mitt: 38%

  72. Brandon says:

    Massachusetts Senate(Rasmussen)

    Warren: 46%
    Brown: 45%

  73. Diogenes says:

    There isn’t a rat’s chance in hell that barry is above 50%. Barry is treading water at around 48% right now. He can barely get reelected but just barely.

    Good news for the GOP right now is that barry stays under 50% in fair polls (i.e. D +6). Romney has yet to define himself and can only go up.

  74. Brandon says:

    And most of the undecideds are Democrats.

  75. Waingro says:

    #74, ugh. Looks like all that infusion of out of state money is starting to pay some dividends for Limousine Lizzy.

    Time to roll up the sleeves, Scott!

  76. Diogenes says:

    The brown race and a few other senate races are just close enough that the top of the ticket will matter. VA, MA, WI, and even MI might be determined by a strong performance by Romney.

  77. Bobby says:

    17% of R’s vote for Warren….what???

  78. Brandon says:

    Probably to send a message to the RINO establishment.

  79. Wobbles says:

    Polling is not looking good. Only Republican Rasmussen is showing the race close.

  80. jason says:

    The Democrats invented the “war on women” and now they need polls to substantiate the narrative.

    The MSM is happy to oblige.

    This is pretty obvious. Countering it effectively is another story.

  81. Waingro says:

    #79, that’s absurd. No one is even challenging Brown in a primary.

    He’ll get 95+ percent of all Repubs easily (what few of them we have out here).

    Of course, it all comes down to the indies. I just can’t see Lizzie Warren resonating with them out here. But we shall see.

  82. EML says:

    Spike Lee is here filming a documentary about our flood recovery. Anyone got his address? 😀

  83. Bitterlaw says:

    EML – look for the guy wearing a Knicks jersey. Most likely, it will be Carmelo Anthony. It probably won’t be Jeremy Lin.

  84. EML says:

    Haha, I said I wouldnt recognize him without a Knicks jersey on. He is wearing a black hoodie :/

  85. MD says:

    68 – that is wishful thinking.

  86. NYCmike says:

    Romney losing in polls on April 10, 2012. Still about 200 days to go before the general election. Half of my friends and family don’t even realize it is an election year yet.

    Can we relax a little bit?

  87. Brandon says:

    New Mexico(Rasmussen)

    Obama: 52%
    Romney: 36%

  88. Apologetic California says:

    None of the “Ras” polls being cited are actually online in his website.

  89. Bitterlaw says:

    Can we relax a little bit?

    Comment by NYCmike — April 10, 2012 @ 11:25 am

    You know this is HHR, right?

  90. Bobby says:

    They will be at around 12:30 or 1. It is only available to Platinum members right now. Romney has a lot of work ahead of him.

  91. Brandon says:

    Romney down 63-22 among Hispanics. It’s okay though, I read on the HHR that we don’t need those voters to win.

  92. Bitterlaw says:

    Brandon – I don’t understand why Hispanics don’t like us. I mean, just because some here think that they are lazy criminals who can’t possibly be reasoned with to change their votes from the Democratic party, why don’t they embrace us?

  93. Mr. Veepstakes says:

    Hi folks, just an update for Mr. Veepstakes:

    “Government’s telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we’ll take care of you,” he said at a theater at the New York Historical Society. “We’re turning into a paternalistic entitlement society. That will not just bankrupt us financially, it will bankrupt us morally.”

    “We’ll have a bunch of people sitting on a couch waiting for their next government check,” Christie said.

  94. Brandon says:

    Bitterlaw, stop it with those red herrings.

  95. Tim says:

    Or women, African-Americans, voters under 25, anyone lefthanded, anyone born in a month ending with a letter of the alphabet, etc……………

  96. Tim says:

    Democrats and the Media did all of that?

    Damn! I bet they decided that in the Communist Party meeting I missed……………….

  97. NYCmike says:


  98. Tim says:

    He hasn’t defined himself, yet?

    Uh, when is he gonna start?

  99. Wobbles says:

    Just more and more bad polling. It is 2008 redux.

  100. Tim says:

    Fair enough.

    ………and, it’s about lunch time.

  101. NYCmike says:

    #98 – Tim,
    Where did the question on contraception originate?

  102. Brandon says:

    Bitterlaw, lets just count our blessings these people are spending their time posting that here instead of working on campaigns.

  103. Bitterlaw says:


    Mexifornia! Mexifornia! Read the book!*

    *Get the whole set about all of the other groups that were supposed to destroy America:

    Eastern European Jew-nifornia!

  104. pitchaboy says:

    All the manufactured wont help. If a double dip happens, my predicted beating will become a sound walloping. One part of me does not want a double dip for obvious reasons, but another part wants it so that there will be 0% chance of four more years.

  105. pitchaboy says:

    Should read manufactured polling wont help.

  106. Bitterlaw says:

    I think we should seal the border and enforce E-verify. I also support an exchange program where I will grant amnesty to one immigrant for each Democrat and or unaffiliated liberal who leaves the country.

  107. Bitterlaw says:

    I will trade 5 immigrants for the expulsion of Alec Baldwin and 50 for Michael Moore.

  108. Brandon says:

    I think we should deport Grandma who has been here for 75 years.

  109. NYCmike says:

    #106 – Immigrants to this country today are allowed to retain a lot of the traditions from their home countries which used to be considered not welcome in America. Assimilation is not a word that is appreciated. The melting pot is being phased out, 2nd and 3rd generations will still identify with their home country instead of as Americans.

  110. Wobbles says:

    Amnesty helped President McCain.

  111. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I have no problem with people retaining traditions as long as they learn English and can function as citizens.

  112. Bitterlaw says:

    I gave my solutions. Unlike the rest of you, I don’t claim absolute certainty.

  113. MD says:

    If thy all join Justmary’s “one true church” then they can all stay.

  114. MD says:

    Pretty sure that wobbles is from the island posting under a different handle. He has the same brain dead thing going.

  115. Bitterlaw says:

    MD – JustMary is a wonderful woman who just happens to be a crazy lady who thinks she is a conservative even though she thinks Romney is evil for making money.

  116. NYCmike says:

    #114 – that would be a good start. Cutting off benefits would also be an incentive for new immigrants to adopt the ways of the new society they have entered.

  117. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought Wobbles was the evil twin of Robbie who is really the bastard son of Rockefeller Republican and Cheksux.

  118. MD says:

    Yor are confusing her with JudyT. Justmary’s is too drink all the time to string a complete sentence together.

  119. MD says:

    Forgive the auto correct. Should be drunk but we all knew that.

  120. Echo Eph says:

    MD is too drunk all the time to string a complete sentence together.

  121. Wobbles says:

    I am your worst nightmare.

  122. MD says:

    It is irrational to provide benefits to illegals.

  123. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t recall saying I would supply benefits to them. I agree with MD. However, several Supreme Court Decions will have to be overturned to get that result.

  124. NYCmike says:

    Just so you know, every time I go over to BJG, I take a lot of flak because several of you can’t avoid speaking about them. They keep lumping me together as a member of HHR, not as an individual. I am starting to think you might be the same as the couple on BJG who constantly bring up 2 special posters on this site. Both groups have long memories, and bot groups have great influence over there compatriots on the other site.
    Fascinating, to say the least!

  125. MD says:

    Wobbles is from the island.

  126. Echo Echo Eph Eph says:

    Echo Eph is too drunk all the time to string a complete sentence together.

  127. Double Agent Knight Hawk says:

    Don’t blow it, NYCmike. You are doing great. Talk sports and wait for further instructions.

  128. MD says:

    I am thrilled to know that I still get under the skin of those morons. Thanks for the update since I haven’t been there in months after justdrunkallday banned me. Or was it justadishonorablemarine?

  129. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – they are just jealous that all the cool posters hang with us and they got stuck with Eph and IP.

  130. NYCmike says:

    #130 – Funny! I was thinking of an earlier altercation I had with him when I was writing my comment.

  131. MD says:

    We conquered that place in 5 minutes. Please allow us to rejoice in the memory of a successful campaign.

  132. Bitterlaw says:

    MD a/k/a Milk Dud – they hate me, too, but I could never get formally banned. It still hurts. I tried so hard.

  133. Brandon says:

    That was a great day.

  134. NYCmike says:

    I find both sites very interesting. The polling shenanigans at HHR, the subjects posted at BJG (plus the pictures help!), I find both sites are never boring.
    Of course that may be a little window into my mind that others will look at and shudder, but you live with what GOD gave ya, right!??

  135. Bitterlaw says:

    That was a great day.

    Comment by Brandon — April 10, 2012 @ 12:34 pm

    That was the day that I really began to think that Brandon could be an a-hole!

  136. NYCmike says:

    #138 – He passed!!??

  137. Bitterlaw says:

    Brandon has completed his internship and probation period. He is now a full Philly a-hole.

  138. MD says:

    That was the day Brandon grew up. Oh great! Now I am getting emotional. Thanks a lot Bitter.

  139. MD says:

    With arms wide open…..

  140. MD says:

    I still remember when Brandon was meek and mild.

  141. Bitterlaw says:

    Defining Moments in HHR History:

    1. Maxwell’s exit.
    2. The Invasion of the Island
    3. Tim V. calls lisab a f-c-w.
    4. GF waterboards Cory
    5. Invasion of North Carolina trolls fails in less than an hour.

  142. Brandon says:

    #139. Yeah, you got a problem with that?

  143. Brandon says:

    The saddest part is that Maxwell thought that everyone would come rallying to his defense and beg him to stay.

  144. Bitterlaw says:

    Another Defining Moment in HHR History:

    6. LaZebra ignites months of the Great Relious War with a the simple comment that electing Romney would be a public relations coup for Mormons.

  145. MD says:

    Brandon – he thought we would be banned.

  146. Maxwell's Granny says:

    You’re just the third man into the fight, Brandon. Should I call you rabbit ears? Go Spartans!

  147. Tim says:

    My defining moment on HHR was the day I discovered that Tina was proficient in the use of firearms.

    Southern men do have their weaknesses, with the ladies.

  148. Brandon says:

    I thought Maxwell claimed to be a real Texan?

  149. Tim says:

    Brandon, he told me he was a transplant from Michigan, or something.

  150. MD says:

    Get your GFY hats for the incredible low price of $14.99. Act fast since quantities are limited!

  151. MD says:

    I love that he pulled the predictable douche move of coming back for a quick hit after the Phillies were eliminated.

  152. Bitterlaw says:

    Order now! Don’t “Just wait! Just wait!”

  153. GF says:

    Good morning/afternoon, HHR. Dave’s filter is messing with me again, and I really cannot figure out why. I wish he had won the Mega bucks, just so we could get a better filter.

  154. Bitterlaw says:

    Oddly enough, maxwell did not return when the Rangers lost the World Series after being one strike away from winning it – twice in one inning!

  155. GF says:

    I have a poll on the Holden race, but I will have to split it up to see what is bothering the filter.

  156. MD says:

    I am sure Santorum had nothing to do with the following:

    A competitive, three-month primary campaign has left Mitt Romney damaged as he prepares for a likely general-election fight with President Barack Obama, a Washington Post-ABC News poll shows.

    Obama, 50, holds advantages over Romney, 65, on personal attributes, even as the incumbent remains vulnerable among Americans concerned that the economic recovery is taking too long.

    If a general election were held now, registered voters would divide 51 percent for the president and 44 percent for the former Massachusetts governor.

    Obama is boosted by his support among women, a constituency that favors him by 19 percentage points over Romney. Among men, Romney has an 8 percentage point advantage. The two candidates are tied among independent voters, a group that can determine the winner of presidential elections.

  157. GF says:

    Cartwright internal has Holden down 6;

    (Filter won’t post the link)

    Toplines in the Dem primary;

    42% Cartwright
    36% Holden
    22% Not paying attention (undecided)

    Holden says he is up 10 in his polls, so make of these numbers what you will. Any local thoughts on the contest?

  158. GF says:

    The poll is at the Politics PA site, but the filter eats the post witht he link in it.

  159. MD says:

    Even if the poll is slanted, I suspect we are double digits behind with women right now. Maybe if JustMary can get all her gal friends to be drunkards like her we can turn that number around.

  160. Phil says:

    I detest Santorum. It wasn’t enough that he got slaughtered in his senate race by a corpse. He has to drag our nominee down as hurting our chances to rid the country of a leftist disaste in the WH.

    Thanks, Rick.

  161. Phil says:


  162. MD says:

    GF – That is an interesting poll. I wasn’t even thinking about a primary when I saw the new map for him which brought in a lot of Dems.

    He is every R’s favorite D in PA. That could hurt him but might hurt us a bit as well since the winner of the primary will win the general. If that is a true lib, then it doesn’t improve our overall situation.

  163. Aye Pee says:

    I have a poll – GF

    Is it Bittersheister’s up your azz?

  164. Bitterlaw says:

    If Santorum loses PA, as I predicted weeks ago, I shall invoke the Polaris Rule and claim immunity from being denigrated.

  165. Brandon says:

    New Thread

  166. MD says:

    Phil – he has been a complete, unmitigated disaster for the GOP. We basically handed that vote to Obama. It was always going to be a close election despite what some think but I honestly feel that we helped to hard code that segment somewhat whereas before we may have been able to sway enough (with a lot of effort and a great strategy) to our side.

    Things could still change but now we have to root for very bad news economically for that too happen. I don’t feel about doing that.

  167. lisab says:

    “Southern men do have their weaknesses”

    low iq?
    no teeth?

  168. lisab says:

    population of iraq

    2000: 22.7 million
    2012: 32.7 million