Walker Surges Into Lead Over Barrett in WI

These were probably not the numbers Daily Kos was hoping for when they gave Public Policy Polling some money to do a new poll for the gubernatorial recall election in Wisconsin.

Scott Walker (R-inc) 50%
Tom Barrett (D) 45%

Scott Walker (R-inc) 50%
Kathleen Falk (D) 43%

Scott Walker (R-inc) 51%
Doug La Follette (D) 40%

Scott Walker (R-inc) 50%
Kathleen Vinehout (D) 38%

About the only good news for Democrats in this poll is that their most electable candidate from above is at least leading their primary race by double digits.

Tom Barrett 38%
Kathleen Falk 24%
Doug La Follette 9%
Kathleen Vinehout 6%

Barrett was actually leading by 27% in the previous PPP poll, so Falk clearly has momentum. Meanwhile, in the Presidential race, Mitt Romney has closed to within 6% of Barack Obama.

Barack Obama (D-inc) 50%
Mitt Romney (R) 44%

This poll just shows how ridiculous CNN’s poll in the previous really is. How is Romney doing better in Wisconsin than he is doing nationally? This poll was done April 13-15 among 1136 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 5:32 pm
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242 Responses to “Walker Surges Into Lead Over Barrett in WI”

  1. Apologetic California says:


  2. F9gopguyIN says:

    good news!

  3. Brandon says:

    Of note though, these are likely voters for the recall. The likely voter pool for the November election is probably at least slightly different.

  4. Tim V says:

    Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee (R) said Sunday that Mitt Romney should choose Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) as his running mate.

    Huckabee argued in a “Fox News Sunday” roundtable that Rubio would be the strongest choice for Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and presumptive GOP presidential nominee.

  5. Diamond Jim says:

    50 days until the recall election

  6. DW says:

    5…when is the dem primary?

  7. Apologetic California says:

    NYC Dem to switch party to run for mayor as GOPer. I believe America will collapse if the Dems recapture NYC.

  8. Enjolras says:

    PA 4 R Primary:

    Chris Reilly (Toomey endorsed) 17.8%
    Scott Perry (Bob Ehrlich and Tom Corbett endorsed) 12.6%
    Sean Summers 5.1%
    Mark Swormley 2.8%
    Kevin Downs 2.3%
    Eric Martin (Paul supporter) 1.9%
    Ted Waga (my candidate 😉 )0.9%

    Given this information, if I lived in PA 4 (I don’t. I work here), I’d vote for Reilly.

  9. Apologetic California says:

    Democrats continue to bleed in TX as Democrat Latino House member switch to the GOP last month. How come we keep hearing about CA GOP Assemblyman Nathan Fletcher ‘switching’ (actually he’s not a Democrat) but not this Democrat switching?

  10. SoHope says:

    Jul, I support the Willy Franks the Common Law Constitutionalist United Party candidate for that seat. He is polling at .02%

  11. Enjolras says:


    I know Ted. Great guy. Knows the issues. Plenty of organization but, no money. With the Toomey endorsement going to Reilly, all the Conservative support is going to him as well, and that’s fine.

    Scott Perry is a fraud Conservative who would be no better than his predecessor.

  12. Diamond Jim says:

    #6 in 22 days

  13. NYCmike says:

    #7 – Bloomberg sucks, except for everyone else who would have been elected. If this guy is like Bloomberg, I’ll vote for him over Christine Quinn, or any of the other Dems who are running. The Dem candidates make Cuomo look Republican.

  14. SoHope says:

    Did scott perry ever run for office as a democrat?

  15. Enjolras says:


    Nope. No relation to Rick 😉

  16. Marv says:

    I am monitoring this site for any negative comments about Texas Gov Rick Perry…….so, just watch it bucko.

  17. Enjolras says:


    I WAS a Perry supporter. Still like him.

    I’m with Rand in 2016 or 2020 though. Sorry.

  18. SoHope says:

    I though scott perry did on a run for the school board

  19. Tony says:

    This is good news. It will worth the wait to watch what happens after Walker is elected all over again.

    Do they keep quiet about it and hope nobody in the news media reports on it or do they go batsh!t crazy and start planning another recall effort?

  20. Enjolras says:


    That’s entirely possible, though I’m not aware of it.

    Tom Smith ran as a Democrat for Twp. Commissioner about 30 years ago.

  21. Bitterlaw says:


    I WAS a Perry supporter. Still like him.

    I’m with Rand in 2016 or 2020 though. Sorry.

    Comment by Enjolras

    From Rick Perry to Rand Paul? Jul is truly a wonder to behold.

  22. janz says:


    Dem WI primary on May 8th.

  23. SoHope says:

    I dont know and dont give a crap….I was just teasing you b/c you (if I recall correctly) ran on a democrat slate.

  24. Bitterlaw says:

    Tom Smith was a Democtrat and voted as a Dem in 2010. However, he said he “couldn’t remember” for whom he voted.

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    So, if Walker wins the recall, can they immediately start another recall? Wisconsin is serious;y “F”ed up.

  26. Brandon says:

    Romney is at a Tea Party rally in Philly tonight.

  27. janz says:

    Confirmed: Democrat-controlled senate the laziest in years

    ……a new report from Secretary of the Senate Nancy Erickson confirms that the current Senate is the laziest since 1992

    The Senate spent an average of just 6.5 hours in session on the 170 days it officially met, the second-lowest since 1992. The upper chamber passed just 90 public laws and 402 measures, both the second-lowest in 20 years. They confirmed just shy of 20,000 judicial and other nominations — or 19,815, a 20-year low.

  28. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe he will seeAdd there. Add is big Tea Party guy = he got an e-mail from them once.

  29. Enjolras says:


    I ran as the endorsed Republican candidate for School Board so, no.

  30. Gay-ree Maxi-spill says:

    Romney is at a Tea Party rally in Philly tonight.

    Comment by Brandon — April 16, 2012 @ 6:56 pm

    Good! Maybe you A-Holes can pelt him out of the park.

  31. Enjolras says:


    Who are you voting for in the Senate Race?

    Smith was a Dem for 4 decades. Welch was a Dem as recently as 09 and fundraised for ChitStack in the 06 and 08 cycles.

  32. Tony says:

    Not sure if they can legally start another recall, but it would be fun to watch.

    Besides, people who KNOW they are right do crazy things.

  33. Diogenes says:

    Obama is such a nightmare president. I remember clinton after he got thumped. He became a centrist with whom gopers could live with … Obama? He double downs.

  34. janz says:

    I doubt there are any limits on how many times you can initiate a recall, except for people willing to sign those recall petitions.

  35. Tony says:

    The Tea Party Loves Romney bumperstickers are being sold everywhere.

    Get yours today.

  36. SusyQue says:

    Guess who’s coming to the unity dinner? (very good news for Romney)

    The last we heard from Robert Jeffress, the pastor of the influential First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas was telling CNN at the Values Voters Summit in October that Mormonism is a cult and that evangelicals had a duty to vote for Christians. Six months later, Jeffress has had a change of heart — or at least a change of politics. Jeffress has now endorsed Mitt Romney for President against Barack Obama, but Fox News interviewers didn’t exactly let him off the hook for his past statements:
    Today, he seems a lot more enthusiastic about Romney than mere nose-holding. That’s good news for Romney, as he needs enthusiasm among evangelicals to help fuel the campaign, and Jeffress is probably right that the recent attacks on religious prerogatives from the Obama administration will become very important in that evolution. But hopefully Jeffress has learned a lesson about having to eat one’s words down the line, if not the dangers of indulging in ecumenical combat in the middle of a political campaign.

  37. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – I heard Welch speak and I met him. He may have the best chance against Casey. I’m still researching but Smith’s “I don’t remember who I voted for in 2010” finished him for me. I want the best chance to win – the only message I want to send is to Casey to get oout of the Senate. If i had to vote today, it is Welch.

  38. Bitterlaw says:

    Before you give me crap, Jul, you have voted for so many Democrats that I view any criticism from you as a badge of honor.

  39. Enjolras says:


    I figured you were going to vote for Welch.

    It’s all academic of course.

    Not even considering Sam?

  40. janz says:

    WI Lt Gov: Stop union ‘takeover’

    Rebecca Kleefisch said the following:

    Wisconsin is a harbinger,” she said. “We are a canary in the coal mine and sounding the alarm across this country right now that if we allow the big union bosses, this big special interest, to wrestle control of the steering wheel of our government and sometimes our economy in Wisconsin away from the taxpayers we are in serious jeopardy for not just our future and our livelihoods, but also the futures and livelihoods out of our kids.”

    So true!

  41. Enjolras says:

    And that’s why I’ve been sending weekly $25 donations to fight the recall effort.

    I make far less on a weekly basis than most of you.

    You all have NO excuse for not doing the same!

  42. NYCmike says:

    “You all have NO excuse for not doing the same!”

    All I have is a lollipop!

  43. GF says:

    Vis-a-vis the WI recall, I believe that once executed, a surviving office holder is safe until the expiration of the normal term barring impeachment and removal by normal methods. There is a slight possibility that the one year rule (being in office for at least one year before being subjected to a recall) could apply, but I could have sworn that I read Walker would be safe until ’14 if he wins in June.

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    Rohrer has a fine platform. I am cold-blooded. Welch has money and will spend it. I don’t know if Rohrer can raise money to even pretend to compete with Casey.

  45. Bitterlaw says:

    I have an excuse. My firm prohibits political contributions. Since I need my job more than I need Walker to be Governor of Wisconsin, I am not donating to anybody.

  46. Enjolras says:


    I’m of the “If you nominate them, money will come” mindset.

    Sam is the only one with any experience, is the most conservative, and has a great organization. He also knows the issues best (with the possible exception of Scaringi).

    Welch is nearly broke (well, his campaign account is).

    Christian, Rohrer, and Scaringi ARE all broke.

    Smith has $2 million COH and is willing to spend a LOT more.

  47. Enjolras says:


    Contributions of under $50 are non reportable.

  48. GF says:

    Say Welch is the nominee, and assume that Romney ends up taking PA by a point or so (UE/bad economy, Iran blows up, you name it). How close does Wrlch get in such a scenario without going all out on his own to eke the win.

  49. Brandon says:

    When in doubt, vote for the rich guy.

  50. GF says:

    BTW, we may have covered this all before, but why did Gov. Schweiker bow out in 2002? With the whole miner disaster/rescue effort, he should have been a shoo-in (I think polls showed him comfortably ahead of Fast Eddy and the Cardboard Empty Suit). Could have broke the two-term curse, methinks.

    Jul, did you drive him out of the party? 🙂

  51. Enjolras says:


    There’s 2 rich guys. One notably richer than the other.

  52. Bitterlaw says:

    Contributions of under $50 are non reportable.

    Comment by Enjolras — April 16, 2012 @ 7:27 pm

    Not to my boss.

  53. Enjolras says:


    Schweiker is a peach of a guy who has no interest in running for anything ever again.

    I wish it were not so. He’d be a fine Governor.

  54. janz says:

    Senate rejects Buffett Rule basically along party lines, 51-45.

  55. Bitterlaw says:

    Tom Smith was a registered Dem until he decided to run for Senate in 2011. He claims that he didn’t change because he wanted to honor his parents. That’s even dumber than not remembering his own voting record.

    GF – With ROmney on the ticket, the GOP has a chance to beat Casey. Rohrer is a social conservative flamethrower.

  56. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    is Casey beatable at all? the guy looks solid for re-election even as Obama faces trouble in the state

  57. janz says:


    How can your job effect making personal political contributions?

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish it were not so. He’d be a fine Governor.

    Comment by Enjolras — April 16, 2012 @ 7:30 pm

    Since we have an excellent Governor in PA, and Jul hates him, I would take Jul’s endorsement with a grain of salt.

  59. mnw says:

    Tast-eee polls!!!

    When was the last time you saw RAS generic at GOP +10? LIKE… never? +10? You kiddin’ me?

    btw…Go BLUZ.

  60. Enjolras says:


    I’ve followed Sam around the campaign trail. He’s barely mentioned social issues a handful of times in the last 3 years.

    His voting record is as Conservative as you’ll find in PA.

  61. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    so Brown (R-MA) even voted against it?

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – private employer can do many things. The only way to test it would be to get fired and sue. The practical effect would be to be unemployed and make a reputation as a trouble-maker who sues his boss so there won’t be a next job.

  63. Bitterlaw says:

    His voting record is as Conservative as you’ll find in PA.

    Which means he is great in a conservative district and not great in a diverse state-wide race..

  64. janz says:

    This is a feather in Gov. Walker’s cap —-> WI property taxes drop for the first time in 12 years

    Governor Scott Walker’s pledge to balance the budget without raising taxes was a key plank of his 2010 campaign, and his fulfillment of that pledge will be a major campaign theme leading up to the June 5 recall election. “Our reforms have reversed a decade of property tax increases from previous administrations,” Walker said in a statement on Monday. “For the first time in over ten years, the average property taxpayer will have more money in his or her pocket than the year before.” Walker’s office noted that property taxes had risen by 43 percent since 1998, and “the average homeowner would have paid an additional $700 over the biennium” without the 2011 budget reforms.

    Intrade has Walker at 61.6% to win the recall June 5th.



    Just asking. I see your point.

  65. Emerica says:

    At the end of Sunday, Paul actually raised more than 1 million dollars in 24 hours even at this late point in the campaign. More than I thought.

  66. mnw says:

    GOP +10 on RAS generic???


  67. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – my firm represents some government clients. Avoiding contributions is a way to avoid being accused of kickbacks.

  68. GF says:

    With the generic, my concern is that we are running up the score in relatively safe territory and making some gains in the toss-ups. I am fairly confident of a Senate majority, but I want a real tail-wind pushing us in, and am not confident (yet) that we will get it).

  69. DrJay says:

    Bitterlaw, send me the $25 and I’ll send it to Walker…



    I swear!

  70. Bitterlaw says:

    DrJay- I don’t have any money right now. I send $5000 to a Nigerian prince. After he get’s his father’s assets from the Swiss bank account, I get $3 million!

  71. Diamond Jim says:

    #70 Ditto

  72. mnw says:


    Fair enuf. But if MO is “relatively safe territory”?

    Then goodbye, Sky Queen!

    What do u think about Lugar/Mourdock, btw?

  73. Enjolras says:


    Are you in the Pileggi/Howard primary area?

  74. Emerica says:

    Weaker than even McCain

    Mitt Romney Shows Record Shortfall in Personal Popularity in ABC News/Washington Post Poll

    ROMNEY EMERGES FROM PRIMARY CAMPAIGN WITH ‘RECORD SHORTFALL IN PERSONAL POPULARITY ‘ | A new Washington Post/ABC News poll finds that Mitt Romney is heading into the general election with “the weakest favorability rating on record for a presumptive presidential nominee” since 1984. He’s 21 points behind President Obama in personal popularity, and deep underwater — the first likely nominee to have an unfavorable rating higher than his favorable rating in the poll’s history. Just 35 percent of Americans see Romney favorably, while 47 percent have an unfavorable opinion of the candidate. And only 12 percent see him “strongly” favorably, suggesting a persistent enthusiasm gap.

  75. DrJay says:

    #71 sounds like an Obama campaign promise.

  76. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – I will have to check.

  77. GF says:

    mnw, I count MO as a near certain win. She’ll put up a fight, but she’s badly damaged. Like HMS Prince of Wales, she should turn away and make smoke (since that is what she blows up the collective tail-pipe of her constituents).

    I’m all in for Mourdock (or, as some here have suggested he should be named, “Dockmore”). A safe seat with Lugar is great and all, but I really don’t think that Donnelly is going to be able to wipe that Obamacare vote away. Mourdock also tried to get back money that the state lost out on when the bailout screwed with the pension funding (he failed, but his effort should instill some goodwill). IN seems to be taking to RTW nicely, so I don’t think that the blowback there will be too harsh; 54-45 Mourdock while Romney cleans up in the state.

  78. Enjolras says:


    If you have to check, the incumbent wins easily. Don’t bother.

    You on the ballot for anything?

  79. O-merica says:

    75- Thanks for all your hard work on behalf of the campaign. Keep discouraging and suppressing the radical right-wing hate vote.



  80. MD says:

    58 – Janz

    Because I work in the financial industry and my firm does some advisory work for gov entities (pretty much municipalities), I am maxed at $250 for POTUS and $150 for everything else. Also, I have to report every single dime to my compliance dept. That is per Dodd Frank. I have no first amendment rights anymore.

    I really don’t want to have to report directly to them. My days of giving are over. Maybe I will just volunteer time only.

  81. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – no.

  82. Enjolras says:


    Milne going to survive that primary?

  83. Enjolras says:


    I’m in one race unopposed and in another, highly contested.

    I’ll leave it at that.

  84. Apologetic California says:

    +10 GOP in generic means we pick up Massachusetts seats. LOL, right.

    Predictive power of horserace presidential polls taken this time of year is less than 50/50.

  85. Pew says:

    ABC/WAPO, you guys need to work harder… we got Romney at 29-51 favorability in March…

    let us know if you need some tips…

  86. Tina says:

    I cannot donate either, I do not want Big Brother cracking down on me. I also post nothing on Facebook, other than family pics. I have no opinion on anything on Facebook.

  87. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – I have no doubt that the uneducated Santorum voters will sweep you to victory.

  88. Enjolras says:


    Check who I’ve pledged my vote to. Hint, it’s not Newt. Or Santorum. Or Paul.

  89. O-merica says:

    Tommy J has some Senate numbers along with his Walker poll. Not surprisingly, they are good for Baldwin.

    45-47 Baldwin vs. Thompson
    46-45 Baldwin vs. Neumann
    47-40 Baldwin vs. Fitzgerald

    What I find more interesting is that while Walker is down seven with women, he is up 17 with men. Yet, his approval is a mere +3 (51-48). Back of the envelope math dictates that Tommy J thinks that women will make up at least 56% if not 57% of the voters in the state. Thumb on the scale a bit, Tommy?

  90. GF says:


  91. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – Ican’t keep track of your candidates. You endorsed every one from Trump to Santorum at some point.

  92. jason says:

    I will vote for Welch also on the basis he has Corbett’s support and would be the most competitive in the GE.

    But since Jul is finally suggesting a vote in someone that can win, I will vote for Chris Reilly. Waga is not a contender.

  93. Enjolras says:


    I’m running for Alt. Delegate. A few of the County parties asked which candidate I’d vote for at the convention if elected.

    When Santorum dropped out, I pledged to vote for Mittens at the convention.

    The convention is not the time to cast a protest vote.

  94. MD says:

    83 – yes.

  95. Enjolras says:


    You in that Shaw-Vance fustercluck?

  96. Enjolras says:


    Figured as much. Not my favorite Rep but, he is a cosponsor of our legislation so, yay. I guess.

  97. jason says:

    Yes. I am voting for Shaw.

  98. MD says:

    Jul – his area is not nearly as R as you would think. If he was really hardcore, they would vote in a Dem. Trust me on this.

  99. Enjolras says:


    Good call. My employer endorsed Vance, but Shaw is actually better.

    Which State House district are you in?

  100. Enjolras says:


    I know the area and completely understand.

  101. jason says:

    Rand Paul has too many of the anti-American sentiments of his father. I could never support him. To me a candidate has to be a patriot. Rand and Ron Paul are not patriots.

  102. Enjolras says:


    Since you’re a MidState native, my employer’s annual luncheon is on May 4th at 10am at the Radisson Penn Harris.

    If you would like to attend, let me know and I will comp you.

  103. lisab says:


    you are voting for romney?!

    shiny 🙂

  104. Enjolras says:


    At the convention. Beyond that, I promise nothing.

  105. jason says:


  106. jason says:

    Thanks for the offer, but I think I will be in Mexico City on the 4th.

  107. Enjolras says:

    Oh, lame.

    Sheryl isn’t too bad actually. My “boss” just insists on fighting with her on a regular basis. Not completely unfortunate looking for an older woman.

  108. Enjolras says:

    Enjoy Mexico you luck ba5tard.

    If any of the HHR crew care to come to the luncheon, let me know.

    Pretty much all of you know who I am.

  109. Enjolras says:


  110. lisab says:

    “At the convention. Beyond that, I promise nothing.”

    damn, soh ya fei tian

  111. Scooter Boy says:

    MD, I would like your take on why you think Ras is showing a +10 for Repubs today. Obviously if that holds it will be another blood bath. I know Repubs have been consistently leading but this seems a little much.

  112. Enjolras says:

    From this point forth, all HHR men must be extremely nice to LisaB and not mock her husband’s plight.

    He’s a lucky duck…even if he is a cooked one.

  113. Enjolras says:

    ooook. I seem to have killed another thread.

    T minus 2 weeks til this user name goes into retirement.

    Two hour commute home so…


  114. GF says:

    113- lisa’s vegan, or at least vegetarian, so he must be a mock duck.

  115. pitchaboy says:

    For such an unpopular guy, he sure is finding a way to kick Obama’s behind.

  116. GF says:

    116- Indeed. I had a feeling our (meaning anyone right of centre) discontent with the man would gel behind ANY acceptable alternative. That seems to be coming true even earlier than I had predicted.

    Out for the evening; see you all tomorrow.

  117. MD says:

    Scooter – don’t know. I don’t #’s seriously until after Labor Day. I would rather have him showing us 10 up than 10 down.

    Frankly, the Dem controlled Senate can’t even present a budget. More than 1000 days. The R controlled House presented a budget.

    If Obama were smart he would force the Senate Dems to get their act together. Thankfully, he doesn’t appear to be that smart.

    So, if I am a Sen candidate as a R trying to unseat a Dem Incumbent, the ad writes itself.

  118. MD says:

    They can accuse us of being extremist but compared to what? They won’t even present a budget.

  119. janz says:

    MD, Like I told Bitter, I understand about the donation problem/paranoia. As I am self-employed I don’t answer to anyone but my partner/husband.

    Tina, I don’t post anything on facebook, either. I think it keeps one’s personal life personal.

    #116 I just hope it keeps up, pitch. So far, I have been pleased with how Romney appears to be handling himself.

  120. jason says:

    ” Enjoy Mexico you luck ba5tard.”

    Mexico has a lot of nice places. But Mexico City isn’t one of them.

  121. MEXIFORNIA!!!!! says:

    Jason – Don’t go to Mexico. It is filled with Mexicans!

  122. jason says:

    Notice that after Romney improved in the polls Robbie Troll has been scarcer than rocking horse turds.

  123. Espanol says:

    They might not speake de English either!

  124. jason says:

    122, Well, I am worried now the mnw said they are darker skinned and shorter than the “U.S. standard” and spend their time watching telenovelas and soccer.

    Or maybe he just mean the immigrants.

  125. janz says:

    A Jim Geraghty twitter:

    “Solicitor General whiffs. GSA parties it up. Secret Service banging prostitutes. Obama’s vacation-scouting. BEST TAX SEASON EVER.”

  126. Bitterlaw says:

    The US height standard? Can MD meet the standard?

  127. sickofdems says:

    You looking for bigotry and racism in every post is getting damn old Jason.

    Give it a rest.

    You remind me of the politically correct horses-ass neighbor i used to have. No matter what anyone said about anything he could find bigotry and racism in every comment. He was the joke of the neighborhood.

    Every person walking this earth has some inherent bias and bigotry. Even you.

  128. Emerica says:

    As a heads up, the Texas GOP Senate District Conventions are this coming week.

  129. MD says:

    Average height 5’10.2″ for a male in the U.S. I am 5’9″. So the answer is no.

  130. Tim V says:

    From this point forth, all HHR men must be extremely nice to LisaB
    why ?

  131. MD says:

    The hottest women in the world are on those shows Lisab.

  132. Tim V says:

    jason the bigot hunter now is hunting racists. what’s next ?

  133. Tim V says:

    the blonde is quite hot

  134. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    My wife likes some of those MD

    And you’re right about the hot women on those shows

  135. Bitterlaw says:

    MD – I once watched an entire hour of a Spanish t.v. show that seemed like Beverly Hills 90210 or something like it. I hasd no idea what they were saying but they hot, angry girls and hot, not angry girls. It seemed interesting.

  136. Phil says:

    So CNN has it at 52-43 Obama.

    No Party ID anywhere in site and they have Obama up 3 with men.

    Nice rescue poll.

    Well done, CNN – desired headline numbers without any information on the polling sample.

    See, folks. This is how it’s done. Score another for Obama’s MSM.

  137. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Think “All My Children” for Hispanics BL

  138. MEXIFORNIA!!!! says:

    Stop atching Mexican tv! That’s how it starts! They are taking over!

  139. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Phil it’ll never stop if they have to do dems +17 they’ll show UnicornJesus ahead

  140. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s like Spanish tv style stopped in 1985. It’s a strange world of perms and push-up bras. It seems distant yet somehow familiar.

  141. RickPerrysParakeet says:


    JokeLeaf over at Polipundit said something racist about my wife once I wanted to strangle him

  142. RickPerrysParakeet says:

    Latin women


  143. Tim V says:

    jason is a great guy. we have a truce.

  144. jason says:

    “jason the bigot hunter now is hunting racists. what’s next ?”

    I guess I better start my taxes.

  145. Jeff G. says:

    Why are Republicans nominating that Romney guy? Why, he’s BARELY winning. (To paraphrase Charles Montgomery Burns.)

  146. Marv says:


    I have a few predictions which you are welcome to hold me to……….Gov Scott Walker will defeat whomever the Dems put up for the recall election, the GOP will expand its lead in the House, the GOP will capture the Senate, and Gov Romney will beat Obama by >4 points. Fox will call the race for Romney before midnight ET on election night 2012.

    The Presidential Election will not go down to the wire, Romney will hold the lead from, at least, Labor Day until the election.

    (Note…….my Gov Perry predictions were advocacy based, and not honest predictions. The predictions above are my best estimation of the events mentioned.)


  147. sickofdems says:

    Don’t want to discuss it Marv.

    I just want you to be 100% correct.



  148. MFG says:

    Mitt 52%-47%

    Meltdown on MSNBC will be epic…

  149. Marv says:


    I hope that the Texas Aggies kick LSU’s butt. Actually, I heard that LSU may have to forfeit the game because about half the LSU players are in jail. Have you heard that too?

  150. DrJay says:

    “A 15-year-old South Texas boy charged with nine counts of murder after he crashed a minivan packed with illegal immigrants… cried and expressed remorse before a judge Monday, police said…

    Border Patrol agents pulled over the van last Tuesday night about 10 miles west of McAllen. As it stopped, one person jumped from the vehicle and ran. When agents pursued him the van sped off. It crashed just a few blocks away scattering a parking lot with bodies, backpacks and water bottles…

    …At least four of the six crash survivors were detained as material witnesses.”

  151. MFG says:

    Nah Marv

    Usually only about a third of the LSU players are in jail at any one time

  152. jason says:

    I can just see the MSNBC meltdown…

    They will have an expert on Diebold Voting Machine manipulation….

  153. lisab says:

    gov’t employees under the bus

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The General Services Administration investigator who revealed a wild agency spending spree said Monday he’s investigating possible bribery and kickbacks, and has already recommended criminal charges to the Justice Department. The key figure in the scandal invoked his right to remain silent at the House hearing.

    Inspector General Brian Miller made clear that he’s not done investigating GSA current and former officials, following his lengthy report April 2 on an October 2010 Las Vegas conference that cost taxpayers $823,000.

    The regional executive who hosted the Western Regions Conference, Jeffrey Neely, invoked his Fifth Amendment rights and his chair remained empty the rest of the House Oversight and Government Reform hearing. He could face a criminal investigation.

    “We do have other ongoing investigations including all sorts of improprieties, including bribes, possibly kickbacks but I’d have to check precisely on kickbacks,” Miller told the committee.

    He added later, “We have recommended criminal charges.”

  154. MD says:

    MFG – look at the bright side. At least you don’t have assistant coaches molesting boys.

  155. MD says:

    156 – looks like I need to arrange a business meeting with the GSA. Sounds like a fun bunch.

  156. lisab says:

    Barney Frank: Obama Made ‘Mistake’ With Health Care Push

  157. Barack says:

    Well, Barney, “the big difference here and in ’94 is you’ve got me.”

  158. jason says:

    “You looking for bigotry and racism in every post is getting damn old Jason.

    Give it a rest.”

    Let’s make a deal.

    I don’t tell you what to write and you don’t tell me what to write.

    And take a flying leap off a cliff while you are at it.

  159. MD says:

    So far the Doc Halladay v Tim Lincecum match up is no pitcher’s duel. Neither will go more than 6 at this rate.

  160. jason says:

    Marv you can’t be wrong all the time.

    So I am thinking you got this new prediction nailed.

  161. sickofdems says:

    Heres a better deal jason…..GFY.

  162. MD says:

    A sickofdems v jason feud. Interesting.

  163. MD says:

    BTW – the GFY reference was downright Maxwellian. That is going full bore right off the bat. Sick – you might want to hold something in reserve for later if the feud drags on.

  164. jason says:

    Nah, can’t be bothered with a flyby lightweight who probably didn’t even read the original post.

  165. Bitterlaw says:

    I hate West Coast games. I hope President Romney enforces one time zone for the entire US.

  166. Barack says:

    A novel idea… I shall call it Barack Standard Time.

  167. NYCmike says:

    “Rand and Ron Paul are not patriots.”

    -Are they racist also?? Give them a lollipop!

  168. sickofdems says:

    Whatever you say jason.

    I have been at this site far longer than most every poster here. Not that it means a damn thing…

    I moderate at several site’s and i see internet punks like you at every single one.

    You love to tell other people what they can and cannot say yet cannot handle it when its thrown back at you.

    Again….GFY. Its likely to be the first and worst piece you ever had.

  169. jason says:

    ” Are they racist also??”

    So glad you asked.

    Have you read Ron Paul’s newsletters? I didn’t this was still an open question.

  170. Marv says:

    #163 jason,

    I used up my allotment of bad predictions on the Perry deal, so most of the ones coming up for the 2012 elections will be fairly accurate.

  171. jason says:

    ” I moderate at several site’s and i see internet punks like you at every single one.”

    Really? Wow. Impressive. You are an important guy huh? Not bad for a moron.

    But of course you are full of crap, you were the one who told me what I shouldn’t write about, not the other way around.

  172. Marv says:


    Let’s you and I have a feud…….I’ll start it off…….most Army guys tried to get in the Air Force, but they couldn’t pass any of the tests.

  173. jason says:

    I hope you are right Marv. The last few days have given me hope. Despite the best efforts of the MSM to define him as a rich out of touch loser, Mitt is alive and kicking.

  174. jason says:

    Grunts rule, zoomies and swabbies are losers.

  175. NYCmike says:

    I brought the Paul family up because your broad brush is now painting the son with the father’s sins. To label someone a racist is a very serious charge. The frequency, and the reasons for, which you do it is a little scary. It seems to be meant to silence people.
    You would work well with the cowards in the NYC Council.

  176. MD says:

    I liked the guys in the Air Force. They always did a wonderful job of shining and buffing my shoes. I never failed inspection afterwards.

  177. lisab says:

    romney is doing ok

    and this is before the deadenders have given up … i actually heard 10 minutes of limbaugh today and he was putting romney down

    and also

    before summer gas prices

  178. jason says:

    ” Again….GFY. ”

    You are obviously a great debater. However your encore was the same as your opening argument.

    Try to diversify a little.

  179. sickofdems says:

    Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it jason?

    Done with you idiot.

  180. DrJay says:

    I think he meant ‘Good For You’, right?

    Now we can all be pals.

    Kum Ba Yah… Kum Ba Yah…

  181. jason says:

    180. I didn’t call Rand Paul a racist. But I do think he shares a lot of his father’s kooky foreign policy views. I never saw him disavow Ron Paul’s truther comments and he is also on record as saying Iran is not a threat.

    He is more pragmatic than his father, maybe not as radical, but in his own words he has said their views are similar.

  182. sickofdems says:

    And oh yea……GFY.

  183. DrJay says:

    Epic fail on my peacemaking effort.

  184. sickofdems says:

    Always stick with what works.

  185. jason says:

    ” Done with you idiot.”

    Hmmm, that’s diversifying?

    Better go back to your original level.

  186. NYCmike says:

    sickofdems used GFY twice. He is obviously against diversity, hence he must be a racist. jason, All-Knowing Racialist Soothsayer of the HHReich, will make the final call. We all bow done in our rainbow robes and await his verdict!

  187. jason says:

    Bingo, there you go. Don’t try anything too strenuous on that pea brain.

  188. DrJay says:

    Gray skies are gonna clear up

  189. jason says:

    Nah he is just a moron. Don’t flatter him.

  190. DrJay says:

    Put on a happy face

  191. NYCmike says:

    jason is really Charles Barron. Sounds like the same guy, anyway.

  192. jason says:

    Sickofdems is a moron, but actually NYCMike seems like a smart guy and I usually enjoy reading his comments.

    NYCMike, you think mnw’s comments on Mexicans was ok? Really?

  193. lisab says:

    On March 29, the U.S. House passed the extreme conservative Paul Ryan’s budget. What you may not know is that beside the mainstream Democratic centrist alternative, there was also a real alternative from the progressive caucus, the “Budget For All,” voted on as the Honda Amendment.

    It repealed the Bush tax cuts, cut military spending, imposed the Buffet rule, didn’t cut any social services, and balanced the budget faster than either the Democratic or Republican choices. It failed to replace the Ryan budget by a vote of 78 for to 326 against.

    Please note that U.S. Rep. Rick Larsen, D-Everett, voted against the Budget For All. He is not a progressive. This is a continuation of what I believe to be his regressive voting for war funding and for indefinite detention. I call all progressives to vote against Larsen in the primary and if our choice in the fall is between him and the Republican, then to write in a real progressive alternative. Things won’t change if we keep supporting Democrats who say they represent us but never do.

  194. jason says:

    199. So the Dems have deadenders too….


  195. lisab says:

    “NYCMike, you think mnw’s comments on Mexicans was ok? Really?”

    which comment are you going on about?

  196. Marv says:


    That shoeshine thing must have been in one of your alcohol induced dream/comas. Air Force guys don’t have to shine anything, we were among the first services to wear patent leather shoes.

  197. sickofdems says:

    Geezus MFG….that is incredibly cool.

    Where did you find that?

  198. lisab says:

    ” So the Dems have deadenders too….”

    very few that would throw obama under the bus

  199. MD says:

    Marv – really? I could have sworn…

  200. MD says:

    Why can’t we be friends?

  201. jason says:

    201. Not going to post it again, but my post # 24 in the Open Thread Monday references it.

  202. NYCmike says:

    this is like the 3rd time I will say this. Please clarify what was said by whom. The comment you wrote, to me at least, was not clear. I am not sure what was said, I am not sure the context it was said in, and I also to would not judge a person solely on what they write on a political blog. Obviously, people may have prejudices. I know I do, mainly of the variety of not seeing a certain person in my neighborhood, or on my block. But that prejudice is towards ALL faces I have not seen before, not the color of the face. And prejudice DOES NOT equal racism. My whole argument with you is this quick draw you have to go right to the racism card, which cheapens the word, and its true meaning. Go ahead and keep brandishing that weapon, but after a while it does not mean anything. sickofdems and Tim V seem to agree. Not that we are the arbiters of truth, but when several people notice the same propensity, I would think you could at least take a breather and look inward, at least for a moment.

  203. lisab says:

    the trouble with the air force is that if you tell them to secure a building

    the air force will will take out a 5 year lease with an option to buy.

  204. Marv says:


    OK……I’m tired of this internecine fighting……I’m willing declare truce if you are.

  205. sickofdems says:

    C’mon MD…you know you dont REALLY want us to all be friends.

    How boring would that be?

  206. NYCmike says:

    Well, now I am really pissed at jason, because I had stayed up just to get a CC, but then I started writing an answer to jason’s question, and I missed out.

    GF, a Navy man like my father, would never have left his post like I did. My father always said, “all boys should spend at least 2 years in one of the services, preferably the Navy, of course!”

  207. lisab says:

    an air force officer goes to heaven and at the gate st peter asks him if he has ever done anything in his life that he believes makes him worthy of admittance to heaven. the officer flyboy replies; yes, i once went into a bar with four of my pilot friends and saw two marines harassing a young girl at the bar, so being a gentleman i went up to the biggest one and told him to leave this young lady alone. when he refused i told him again more forcefully. this time i slapped him across the face and told this marine to stand down. st peter said this was a very good thing to do and asked when the pilot did this great act. the pilot replied; about 5 minutes ago! my friends should be here shortly!

  208. sickofdems says:

    Well put NYCMike…

    Dont expect it to make a dent in someone so full of himself though.

  209. Marv says:

    #209 lisab,

    Obama’s feminized Air Force would do just as you described, mine would blow the crap out of the building and not give a dang about collateral damage.

  210. NYCmike says:

    To add salt to the wound, I now see jason got post 200, and he did not even give a CC shout out to all of the ships at sea!

    Now I’m really mad, ya hear! (is that Yosemite Sam talking, it’s past my bedtime!)

  211. jason says:

    208. Sorry but I don’t buy your argument. I called 3 people racists here and I think I had good reason too. Four with Bunu, which I think everyone agrees is a slam dunk. This over the many years I have been here and the hundreds of people I have interacted with. And I was careful to reference what comment I took issue with.

    I am not trying to silence anybody, but if people choose to make offensive statements then they are open to being called on it. There is no free lunch.

    Regarding the statement that I found offensive:

    “Ever watch Mexican “telenovelos” (soap opera) on TV? Or “esportos” (soccer, mostly) on TV?

    Guess what? The announcers are light-skinned, & average height (by U.S. standards).

    My point? It is this: the average Mexican immigrant (& the second-generation Mexican immigrant) is dark-skinned, & shorter than average (by U.S. standards)…..

    Mestizos & Indios from Mexico who re-locate to the U.S. DON’T GIVE A RATZ ADZ about Marco Rubio, folks…”

  212. lisab says:


    actually my father joined the air force in 1950

    he originally joined the navy but because of some issue ended up in the air force … he may have been drafted by the navy but volunteered for the air force instead … i don’t recall the details

    he ended up in SAC out of rome

  213. Marv says:

    #213 lisab,

    That story can’t be true because Air Force pilots sit at the right hand of God immediately upon passing with no requirement to stand in line or be interviewed by St Peter.

  214. Marv says:


    SAC out of Rome? Are you talking about Griffis AFB in Rome, NY?

  215. lisab says:


    all except the part about rubio is probably true

    many mexicans are as light skinned as me. some are black.

  216. lisab says:

    well SAC out of rome, i don’t know the name

    later he was attached to hanscom afb in massachusetts, which was somehow under the control SAC out of rome

    yes, daddy is/was a rocket scientist

    now he works for nasa

  217. DrJay says:

    When I went on an excursion in mexico, the mexican guide had orange hair and light skin.

  218. Marv says:


    Tell your Dad thanks for his service.

  219. lisab says:

    however, he worked for sac 40 years ago, back in the 1970’s

  220. Marv says:

    Good night folks.

  221. NYCmike says:

    I could possibly take issue with these comments, or I could just ignore them. The guy from Mexico who I work with has said some awful things about the guy from Ecuador, and both of them have things to say about the guy from Honduras, and ALL of them despise the guy from El Salvador, who happens to be the best worker out of all of them, and also saved his money to be a house, while the other guys still rent to gringos (their word, not mine). So maybe I am more exposed to WORDS that may be considered offensive, but not really racist.
    Now the guy who I work with whose son just moved to Georgia, and is amazed because his son loves his boss, and that boss happens to be of a darker skin color, could be considered a racist. BUT, I have never seen that same man be anything less than kind to a person of a darker skin color, once he gets to know that individual, and the individual does not match up with his stereotype in his head. So I still could not brand him a racist. He definitely has prejudices, but to go beyond that takes a lot more action. In my opinion, anyway.

    Cheers to you. I try to find the goodness in all, even in the Philly a-holes!

  222. NYCmike says:

    DrJay says:
    April 17, 2012 at 12:48 am
    When I went on an excursion in mexico, the mexican guide had orange hair and light skin.

    -Those dang Irish are everywhere, aren’t they??

  223. DrJay says:

    I won a trip with my wife to Rome and the Amalfi Coast by pulling a ticket off a coke cup at a fast-food joint… no joke!

  224. lisab says:

    “Tell your Dad thanks for his service.”

    sure … but he actually mustered out as soon as he could and went civilian

    he does not consider his service to be very real, because he never saw combat and left quickly

    actually they kept him in the reserves until 1973 or so

    he volunteered to fly but that did not happen so he felt kinda useless in the air force

    he would have been a great pilot, even at 83 his eye sight is better than mine

  225. DrJay says:

    That was the joke he made!

  226. DrJay says:

    #231 (re the Irish joke)

  227. NYCmike says:

    When I lived in California, I lived with 7 guys from Ireland. They were all in “university”, and they had already lived/worked in Australia, Germany, and worked on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. And they were only 22 years old!

  228. NYCmike says:

    Goodnight all.

    Sleep well!

  229. lisab says:

    From 1757 to 1775, Ben Franklin lived in an elegant four-story Georgian house at No. 36 Craven Street in London during his time as an ambassador for the American colonies. In late 1998, a group calling itself Friends of Benjamin Franklin House began to convert the dilapidated building into a museum to honor Franklin, whose other home in Philadelphia had been razed in 1812 to make way for new construction (a “ghost house” frame now sits on the site).

    One month into the renovations, a construction worker named Jim Field was working in the basement when he found something odd: a small pit was in a windowless basement room. Inside, sticking out of the dirt floor, was a human thigh bone.

    The police were called and supervised excavation continued. More human bones were pulled up. And more. And more, until some 1,200 pieces of bone were recovered. Initial examinations revealed that the bones were the remains of 10 bodies, six of them children, and were a little more than 200 years old. Their age discouraged any interest from Scotland Yard, but piqued the curiosity of historians and the Institute of Archaeology. The bones’ age meant they may have been buried in the basement around the same time that Franklin was living in the house.

  230. DrJay says:

    NYCMike, that’s really cool. I wonder if they settled in or kept up their adventuring.

  231. lisab says:

    French scientists said they had found evidence proving the stereotype that people who sport tattoos and piercings are heavier drinkers.

    Alcohol tests performed on nearly 2,000 young men and women frequenting bars in the west of France showed a strong correlation between body art and boozing, they said.

    “Pierced and/or tattooed individuals had consumed more alcohol in bars on a Saturday night than patrons in the same bars who were non-pierced and non-tattooed,” said a study for the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research.

    Previous research had shown that people with tattoos and piercings were more likely to engage in unsafe sex, fighting and heavy drinking, but this was the first such project to measure more alcohol per litre of exhaled breath.

  232. DrJay says:

    Happy 75th birthday to Daffy Duck!

    Bugs, “you’re desthpicable!”

  233. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    Early post:

    Rueters claims Obama up by 4 and Dems up 1 in congressional ballot; Pfft

    meanwhile Bob Beckle had an F-Bomb moment on Hannity last night

  234. EML says:


    actually my father joined the air force in 1950

    now he works for nasa

    Comment by lisab — April 17, 2012 @ 12:47 am

    You’re dad is at least 80 and he’s still working? For NASA?

  235. MD says:

    235 – get Sherlock Holmes on that!

  236. Barrett says:

    #240 – Just ignore things that LisaB says. It’s not worth the time to sort through the BS