Romney Leads Obama in MO, GOP Leads Senate Race Too (Plus MD Poll)

Scott Rasmussen is busy today releasing polls from the great state of Missouri and we will start with a look at the Presidential race.

Mitt Romney (R) 48%
Barack Obama (D-inc) 45%

Meanwhile in the US Senate race, according to this same poll, Republicans have a golden opportunity to pick off an incumbent Democrat.

Sarah Steelman (R) 49%
Claire McCaskill (D-inc) 42%

Todd Akin (R) 48%
Claire McCaskill (D-inc) 43%

John Brunner (R) 45%
Claire McCaskill (D-inc) 43%

This poll was done April 17th among 500 likely voters. Meanwhile, looking at my home state of Maryland, there was a poll put out by the Democratic candidate John Delaney on Monday showing Democrats with an opportunity to pick off one of Maryland’s remaining two Republican congressman.

John Delany (D) 48%
Roscoe Bartlett (R-inc) 39%

This poll was done April 9-11 among 402 registered voters. Bartlett might be an incumbent, but the Maryland Democrats did a pretty good job with redistricting that this might be a pick up for Democrats.

Posted by Dave at 12:17 pm
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271 Responses to “Romney Leads Obama in MO, GOP Leads Senate Race Too (Plus MD Poll)”

  1. Enjolras says:


  2. SusyQue says:

    November 2012 will be a great month of remembrance
    when Mitt Romeny becomes our President.

  3. EML says:

    Rasmussen is trash. Paladin/CFP is the gold standard.

  4. Enjolras says:

    Ras polls in 2010 blew so, I’m a little reluctant to believe them entirely.

  5. Bitterlaw says:

    What’s the thread rule, Jul? I plan to ignore it but I would hate to accidentally comply with it.

  6. NYCmike says:

    from last thread, I always get a giigle out of the Part I.

    SSQ – please, overconfidence is not our friend! I want to cry that night, which means that everyone thinks Romney will lose, and Harry Reid will still be the majority leader. Then, at 12:00, stroke of midnight, Chris Matthews says “Barack Obama has just called President-elect Romney, and the too close to call Senate races look to be overwhelmingly going to the enemy, oops, I mean the Republicans”

    Tears of Joy to follow!!!!

  7. Brandon says:

    Rasmussen is an Obama plant.

  8. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree with Brandon. What is the point of a poll unless it shows what we want it to show?

  9. Phil says:

    Bush beat Gore in Mo in 2000 by 3.5 pts

    Bush beat Kerry there by 7 pts in 2004

    Even McCain edged out Obama there (essentially a tie) in 2008 in a great Democratic year.

    Romney beats Obama in Mo this time by 6-8 points.

    Take it to the bank.

  10. Marv says:

    Since the aircraft is cruising at FL280 (28,000), then this sounds like a heart attack or a cabin pressure failure with a slow leak, IMO.

  11. MD says:

    Agree Phil

  12. John says:

    Don’t sweat states like MO. Romney is going to take states like Oregon, Delaware and Connecticut. Not to say New Jersey and Maryland.

    I would be surprised if Romney gets les than 535 EVs.

  13. Marv says:


    Just for clarification, is the overthrow of the Federal Government expressly prohibited? If so, where can that information be found and what is the controlling legal document? My people want that information prior to our weekly planning session tonight.

  14. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    im not worried about MO one bit

  15. MD says:

    John aka troll – we are realistic here by and large. I sense anxiety.

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    Marv – the controlling language is “don’t start wars you can’t finish.” I think it was said by either Benedict Arnold or Robert E. Lee. I sometimes get my traitors mixed up.

  17. Marv says:


    Arnold was a treacherous SOB. General Robert E Lee is an American patriot who was defending his country against an invasion by an oppressive foreign regime.

  18. Bitterlaw says:


    Suck it. Cream soda.

  19. SusyQue says:

    Worth Reading…..

    The 5-Minute ENERGY Blog: Post 1″ by Tim Dunn

    No one knows the future, but here is a prediction:

  20. Irish Catholic Prophet says:

    I know the future. We all die at some point. Some of made more money than others.

  21. AuthorLMendez, Liberterian For Romney says:

    Gallup has Obama at 47% but Romney leads by 5 again

  22. DW says:

    48 Romney
    43 Obama (1)

    Gallup tracking

  23. Waingro says:

    I see Quinny also somehow got Dems +1 in generic congress vote poll.

    I can smell the trash from here.

  24. Phil says:

    Gallup tracking has methodology problems.

    David Axlerod says so.

  25. SusyQue says:

    Bitter…I am very suspicious of the term you always use “Creme Soda”. I went to urban dictionary and hope you are not using one of it’s
    definitions that I don’t even want to type out.

  26. Marv says:

    See you folks, later.

    Bitterlaw…………oh, nevermind.

  27. Marv says:


    “Cream soda”, as used by Bitterlaw, refers to the refreshment to be served at the peace table or negotiation table. When he says “cream soda”, it is his way of expressing a desire for a truce in any ongoing dispute in which he is engaged.

    I, thus far, have refused all entreaties or offers from him for cream soda. I am going for total capitulation, besides that, I’m a Grape Ne-Hi or Red soda man.

  28. Enjolras says:

    I imagine Susy is now scarred for life.

    No, I don’t believe that’s what bitterlaw meant.

  29. Tim V says:

    SSQ, What are you doing at Urban Dictionary. Stay away from places like that !

  30. MD says:

    Cream soda is a reference from a movie from 1988 starring Robert Deniro, Charles Grodin and a host of others.

    In the movie, there is a mobster who has a lawyer who is a worry wart. The lawyer is expressing some worry to the mobster and the mobster responds by saying:

    “Relax Sydney. Have a cream soda”.

    So, when we use the term here it means to relax. Bitter and I started to throw that term at each other during our battles when one of us thought the other went too far. SSQ – you need to get your mind out of the gutter and back into the good book asap.

  31. MD says:

    BTW – the movie was Midnight Run

    A great drinking game is to take a drink every time a character says the word fuc+. It is impossible to stay sober.

  32. GF says:

    WOW! I can see how anyone (including SSQ) would be scarred after seeing 4 & 5.

  33. SoHope says:

    SSQ, tell us the definition you found and see what get’s through dave’s filter.

  34. GF says:

    Great, now “cream soda” will be banned, just like J*enna.

  35. MD says:

    I assure everyone that our cream soda was not one of those. I have fully explained the origins now everyone have a cream soda and f’n relax.

    Chris+ almighty.

  36. Bitterlaw says:

    SSQ is hanging out at Urban Dictionary. Wow. Society really has degenerated. I am filled with sadness.

    SSQ – do not search for the definition of Santorum. You have been warned.

  37. Bitterlaw says:

    MD – WTF? You told me it was a movie reference. What is wrong with you? I don’t know who you are anymore.

  38. MD says:

    It IS a movie reference. Read 31.

    WTF is going on around here? SSQ has the sane people losing their minds.

  39. DW says:

    This was posted at a dead thread yesterday, so I wanted to repost it here. Shows the 2008 POTUS vote comparing each 2008 congressional district with the new 2012 districts.

  40. MD says:

    DW – thanks but that chit makes my eyes cross.

  41. NYCmike says:

    SSQ started hanging out at that place right after she made mention of my tummy. I’ll have to go to confession twice this weekend.

  42. SoHope says:

    i feel dirty

  43. DW says:

    41…I copied and pasted into excel so that I could clean it up and make it more useful. I don’t know anywhere on the web except this page where this info is provided in one location.

  44. Tim V says:

    SSQ, you need to repent for visiting urban dictionary and also for impuning bitter’s moral character.

  45. Bitterlaw says:

    I wantto nominate SUSYQUE’s Urban Dictionary Adventure to the HHR Hallof Fame.

  46. lisab says:

    “My brother was in an American compound in Uddaliah (sp?) Saudi Arabia and he didn’t even feel safe there”

    muslims in saudi are wahabbis … which in english translates as “fricken crazy a-holes”

    muslims in indonesia and asia in general are not wahabbis, although those in the near east are also nuts … india, pakistan, afghanistan …

    i have lived in asia, it is not that bad. tan native boys brought me fresh fruit every day … until the horrible volcano incident …

    but i am sure that has blown over by now. 🙂

  47. Fake Polaris says:

    DW – Did your analysis confirm that there was no way to predict that a young black candidate would increase turnout about young peole and black voters?

  48. DW says:

    48….no, but my analysis did confirm that right now, the official Paladin/CFP house forecast is GOP +2

  49. Bitterlaw says:

    but i am sure that has blown over by now.

    Comment by lisab

    SSQ – don’t look up “blown over.”

  50. lisab says:

    btw, my hubby did not apply for a job in indonesia. he applied for a job working out of singapore, and the company offered him a branch office position

    which we are unlikely to take … unless the money is really good

    basically my job would be having sex with my husband when he gets back from whatever third world hell hole they send him to, sunbathing topless, exploiting the poor, drinking mai tais and generally living a life which will eventually precipitate a proletariat revolution which will bring about the destruction of the kapitalists.

  51. MD says:

    49 – I am not so certain the new algo is going to stay with that DW. It looks like an even split or D +1. That is a load better than 08. What was that ID again fake Polaris?

  52. MD says:

    LOL – people really couldn’t tell what we were/are referring to with the phrase cream soda or is it just a SQ thing?

  53. lisab says:

    hubby has never lived in asia, so he thinks it will be just like camping

    which it is

    if you like camping next to open cesspits covered in malaria ridden mosquitoes.

  54. MD says:

    DW and Marv,

    We are a go on the CTV screen. The operatives are in the field now. Project PA is under way. We should have results by the middle of next week. I am having them hold off on making the calls until we have the new algo tested for some additional scenarios.

    You see, at CFP/Paladin we are always working to get better and are never satisified.

  55. lisab says:

    the missouri poll is excellent news.

    that state was 49 – 49 last time

    that would make VA and OH just about tied right now if they folloed the 2008 pattern, i.e. those states went for obama 4 points higher than missouri

  56. SoHope says:

    #50…or portugese rose bush

  57. Marv says:

    #31 MD,

    “Midnight Run”…….one of my favorite movies, I watched again last night.

  58. MD says:

    Marv – I have seen it 20 times but if I see it on cable I will usually stop and watch for a bit.

  59. Jerry muthertruckin' Cruncher says:

    I’m having a bad day. Can someone say something positive to me. It’s just one of those days, few to be sure, when I feel depressed, worthless. I was so down earlier, I called my worst enemy for a good word, but they didn’t answer.

  60. GF says:

    60- We should direct IP to #3 on that reference.

  61. Tim V says:


    You are a paragon of virtue and a pillar of society.

  62. GF says:

    57- SoHo, that’s just disgusting!

  63. Jerry muthertruckin' Cruncher says:

    Thanks Tim V.

  64. DW says:

    55…sounds great. Thanks for your hard work, and thank all your team members on behalf of the entire executive team!

  65. billclinton says:

    61 i feel your pain

  66. GF says:

    lisa, should you make it to Singapore, stop by the Raffles and say hello to the Long Bar for me. I think they allow women in there now.

  67. Tim V says:

    no problem Jerry. Hopefully your depression will lift soon. Mine often last for several months but they eventually pass. You said yours were usually short so that is a good thing.

  68. Marv says:


    The aircraft that Charles Grodin tries to escape in is a Boeing PT-17 Stearman.

  69. MD says:

    It is illegal to be gay in Singapore Lisab. My boss was going to lead an office there but that stopped him.

  70. Marv says:


    Been to the Long-Bar myself. There were females there, but they were not allowed to stand at the bar, as I recall.

  71. jan says:

    The EuroTrash poll is out.


    Obama 49%
    Romney 42%

    Yet he as a 41% approval.

  72. Marv says:


    Is your boss gay?

  73. MD says:

    I get a touch of that myself Tim V but nowhere near yours. I can’t imagine living with it for months at a time.

  74. Marv says:

    World War II era aviation buffs will be thrilled by this:

    “Like a treasure chest stuffed with priceless booty, as many as 20 World War II-era Spitfire planes are perfectly preserved, buried in crates beneath Burma — and after 67 years underground, they’re set to be uncovered.

    The planes were shipped in standard fashion in 1945 from their manufacturer in England to the Far East country: waxed, wrapped in greased paper and tarred to protect against the elements. They were then buried in the crates they were shipped in, rather than let them fall into enemy hands, said David Cundall, an aviation enthusiast who has spent 15 years and about $200,000 in his efforts to reveal the lost planes.”

    Read more:

  75. GF says:

    68- Hey, Bill, I still remember your inaugural headline from the Onion;

    New President Feels Nation’s Pain, Breasts

    You were a classy guy, buddy. How’d you feel about not getting in on that SS action down in Colombia? Zero doesn’t have the cojones or the libido, does he?

  76. SusyQue says:

    I only want to think the best of Bitter so I will accept what MD has said. However, if I order a drink the next time I have lunch with my friends, I will never order a CS.

  77. GF says:

    77- Buried to prevent enemy capture? I don’t recall the Japanese being on the offensive in 1945, particularly in that theater.

  78. Marv says:

    #76 MD,

    My question to you was “Is your boss gay”, then I read the first sentence in your #76……sheesh.

  79. Marv says:

    #80 GF,

    Yeah there is a disconnect in the narrative there, but the author of the story didn’t follow up very well.

  80. MFG says:

    Isn’t enough money in the world to get me to go to Indonesia…

  81. SusyQue says:

    GF..I trust you have read in the newspaper that Some street in San Diego will be named after Harvey Milk the gay man who was murdered in San Francisco. If they do that, I want then to put the name “Gay” after everyone who runs for office in California who is gay.

    If I have my facts wrong, please correct me.

  82. MFG says:


    You are a child of God

    And you don’t live in Indonesia…

  83. Corey says:

    What the heck is wrong with ketchup and steak?

  84. MD says:

    Asking the question is a problem in of itself.

  85. GF says:

    Here in SD, SSQ? I actualy missed that. No idea why, he wasn’t born here nor did he spend much time here (maybe a little when he was in the Navy, but even then I am not so sure). I’ll bet the Hillcrest Queens are pushing it. Heck, both GOP candidates for Mayor are gay, and the Democrat is amongst the most left wing in the House (Bob Filner), but he keeps mutting his foot in his mouth, so I doubt he even gets to the run-off. Probably will be R turncoat Flether as the Indy against Carl Demaio (used to be my councellor before I moved to La Jolla). I’m voting for the DA, Bonnie Dumanis. Lesbian or not, she’s a pretty darned good DA and a good Republican overall.

  86. Corey says:

    I’ve never in my life heard of any controversy surrounding ketchup and steak until today.

    Sounds like total East Coast snobbery.

  87. MFG says:

    Best cure for depression is


    Get out and walk around the block if nothing else

  88. GF says:

    Jerry, buck up; Zero will be gone next January. That should help clear up any gray clouds you have right now.

  89. Corey says:

    Good thing JT doesn’t have to vote in San Diego.

  90. EML says:

    Obama’s favorite foods:

    Beagles with cream cheese
    Eggs Rover easy
    Great Danishes
    Pup Tarts
    Chicken Poodle Soup
    Spaghetti and Mutt Balls
    Santa’s little hamburger helper
    Garlic Mashed BOtatoes

  91. GF says:

    Sounds like total East Coast snobbery.

    Comment by Corey — April 19, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

    But is it Massachussetts snobbery? Because, there no worse kind in this country (well, with the possible exception of San Francisco).

  92. Corey says:

    It’s bad enough I have to sneak ketchup onto a hot dog here in Chicago or risk being the victim of a citizens arrest, but I have never known of anybody here eating a steak who did not use ketchup or A1.

  93. GF says:

    92- I know, I mean half the legitimate candidates running are gay and they are all Republicans. The other R, now an Indy, made his mark backing a bunch of gay related legislation in the state assembly. SD is known as a gay friendly town, so long as they keep to their quarter and don’t go all crazy during the parades. We’ve only had one Dem mayor in the modern era, and that was b/c the R left office early and she took over from the City Council.

  94. GF says:

    95- They might as well use kethcup or road tar if they want; Chi-Town is flooded with all that cr@ppy corn-fed beef. Grass-fed, grass-finished is the only way to go, especially if you are not going to shell out for Wagyu.

  95. GF says:

    *Ketchup, or “catsup” if you prefer.

  96. NYCmike says:

    #84 – What is the purpose of that statement?

  97. GF says:

    101- ZING!!!

  98. NYCmikewIFE says:


  99. GF says:

    Almost grazed you with that one…so close…

  100. Corey says:

    I don’t know the San Diego connection but Harvery Milk was more than just a gay man who got murdered, he was a City Councilman and the first openly gay elected official in American history, who was assassinated over thirty years ago.

  101. GF says:

    Ooh, Caps Locked on; party foul…

  102. NYCmike says:

    After last thread, that is a victory for me!

  103. Corey says:

    This Roman Numeral stuff needs to stop eventually.

  104. GF says:

    105- I’m guessing she didn’t watch or wasn’t moved by “Milk” when it hit the theaters, Corey.

  105. NYCmike says:

    #CVIII – Why would that be??

  106. Corey says:

    I haven’t seen the movie “Milk” myself, but I would want to see it one day.

  107. GF says:

    107- I saw that after the fact, NYC. You took your self-inflicted lump quite well, I must say.

    Now now, Corey, don’t dictate the rules here or we’ll visit your blog and drop some Romans on you…except that getting to “C” may be quite a feat over there. ZING!!!

  108. SusyQue says:

    GF….perhaps a few weeks before we have to vote, you will tell me who not to vote for. I am, of course, voting R. I have been focused on the presidential primary and have not paid attention to Ca.

  109. Corey says:

    I have to approve comments on my blog to keep all the trolls away.

  110. GF says:

    113- For a Pinko lovefest, it was actually quite good. I don’t care for Sean Penn, really, but I thought it was one of his best performances.

  111. NYCmike says:

    #CVIII – if you know the Roman numeral for 400, then GF might call off the dogs

  112. MFG says:

    I give up…

  113. NYCmike says:

    “You took your self-inflicted lump quite well, I must say.”

    175# of dynamite, with a 2″ fuse!!

  114. GF says:

    Susy, I can only clarify the positions of the candidates; I make it a point never to tell anyone who to vote for. I will only say that if you are firm on voting for a Republican, you will vote for a gay candidate (Carl Demaio and Bonnie Dumanis). Otherwise, Dem Filner or R turncoat Nathan Fletcher are your only serious choices. All of the also-rans are Pinkos of varying stripes from the burnt-out quarters of the city (downtown, East Village, Hillcrest, Pacific Beach and so on; where the dregs of society end up living b/c they either cannot afford a nice neighbourhood or choose to live in run down flats b/c they think it is chic to do so).

  115. NedStark says:

    NedStark’s Daily Electoral College Update and VP Rankings

    Dedicated to Jerry

    Electoral College (No Toss Ups)
    Romney: 271
    Obama : 267

    VP Rankings

    Yesterday’s rank in ()

    1. McDonnell (7)
    2. Portman (1)
    3. Christie (4)
    4. Jindal (2)
    5. Pawlenty (8)
    6. Rubio (6)
    7. Ryan (3)
    8. Corbett (NR)
    9. Haley (NR)
    10.Ayotte (NR)

    I strongly beleive Romney will go with a Governor and I’m going back to my first instict of McDonnell being the choice. Ryan fell quite a bit because of this and Rubio stayed the same. They are too new you might say and do not have executive experience. Portman is the exception simply because Romney knows him well and he is from Ohio and has extensive experience outside of executive experience.

    Daniels fell off because I researched what MD said yesterday and the wife issue is an extremely big deal and I cannot see an overly cautious Romeny team taking that chance. Bush also fell off but just barely, when I look at the last three people: Corbett, Haley and Ayotte, would Romeny choose Jeb Bush or one of those three?

    Also, the darkhorse is Pawlenty, he’s boring and in this election cycle that might be a good thing.

  116. Corey says:

    Whatever happened to Susan Golding?

  117. MFG says:


    Why not?

  118. GF says:

    On a high note, redistricting took me out of Susan Davis’ district and lumped me in with Brian Bilbray. The Dems have two “winners” gunning for him, but the seat is reasonably R and should not flip outside of a Dem wave and/or really bad GOP candidate in the future. One is a former college professor from SDSU, a real Marxist type, the other is a so-called/self-titled “moderate” Dem who was on the city council for a while (the same council that created and perpetuated out current pension crisis. He would be the stronger candidate, but the former prof is Hispanic, and she is pulling out all of the racial and class warfare stops. Zero won the seat as designed in ’08, but it should revert to form this year; I see Romney signs everywhere in La Jolla, and the inland quarters are already solidly GOP. Only the Asian area in between (lots of immigrants and gentrified) could be problematic, but probably not enough to flip it.

  119. Walt says:


    “2 Computers Stolen from D.C. Auditor’s Office”
    I guess if you are being investigated, then a good thing to do would be just steal the computer of whoever is investigating you.

  120. Corey says:

    I had thought Bilbray was hurt a good deal by redistricting.

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    Jerry – Whenever you feel down, just be happy you aren’t Bunu. Imagine dedicating your life to a joke candidate who has not won a single contest despite your grand predictions and efforts to post thousands of links that nobody reads.

  122. MFG says:

    Any day you’re not in the cancer ward is a good day

  123. Walt says:


    “Dixon, Illinois Comptroller Allegedly Stole $30M from City”
    Guess he comptroller wan’t smart enough to steal the computer of whoever was investigasting him.

  124. GF says:

    Golding left office on a blah note. She unfortunately did not do a whole lot whilst mayor, and she did not fight the union pension crowd enough to prevent or at least forestall the current mess. That’s why you never saw her run for statewide office or even a local Congressional race. Nice lady, but she lacked the stones (quite literally, I’m afraid) to do the right thing. I had hoped she would step up against Boxer in 1998, but our state Treasurer (whom I strongly supported over Issa) got the nod. Alas, despite runing strong and even leading into September and early October, Matt Fong collapsed once his money ran dry and the impeachment vote sucked up all the oxygen out of the state’s perpetual dislike of Boxer. We hate her, but we keep sending her back. 🙁

  125. Walt says:


    “Nebraska Pays for Prenatal Care for Illegal Immigrants”
    Chek, you listening???

  126. Corey says:

    The Comptroller of Dixon, IL (hometown of the Gipper) who is in trouble is actually a woman.

  127. Corey says:

    I think Susan Golding briefly ran for the Senate in 1998 but dropped out. Sad to hear a few months back that Matt Fong passed away.

  128. GF says:

    129- The seat is not as R as his previous seat (he moved inland when Cunnigham went to jail and had a close call in an otherwise solidly R seat back in ’05/’06), but the new seat drops some inland areas and takes in La Jolla and UCSD on the coast. More Dems out on the West side, but it should not be too bad unless they all turn out in force and the Reps stay home. Again, the Dem primary will decide whether or not this race is even close. If it’s the college prof, Bilbray should win by a decent margin (no more landslides, though). If it’s the white male Dem, could be harder. Bilbray held a rougher seat previously, though (Davis beat him in 2000 after he won in 1994 and survived a strong challenge in 1998), so I would think he knows how to campaign.

  129. Walt says:


    “EPA Air Pollution Rules Set for Fracking Wells”
    Here we go…

    Obama and EPA Czar Lisa Jackson expand war on oil and coal to also include natural gas???

    [View Full Story From Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]

  130. Corey says:

    Roll Call is listing Bilbray’s district as a tossup. The opponent will be Lori Saldana or Scott Peters. Are those teh people you are speaking of?

  131. GF says:

    136- Fong was a good man, very, very intelligent. CA made a huge mistake not sending him to Congress. Even the LA Times endorsed him over Boxer (whom they gave a scathing report on in that cycle), and the SF Chronicle, while endorsing Boxer, gave him kind remarks.

    Newt way overreached when he put all his eggs in the blue dress basket. There was so much more to run on, and he did not understand how squishy moderates think. To lose five in the House and wash out in the Senate (barely; we won KY by the skin of our teeth) was a disater, no two ways about it. We should have won fifteen or better in the House (and knocked out those surviving Southern Dems) back in ’98 instead of waiting until 2004 and 2010 to do it. Not to mention several Senate seats that were up fo grabs.

  132. Walt says:

    Thanks, Corey.

    Tis a she, the Dixon, IL comptroller.
    But if we go after her, then are we part of the GOP war against women???

    At least she wasn’t a stay at home mom.

  133. GF says:

    Saldana is the Marixt college prof and state assembly member. Peters is the stqale white Dem who has a chance. Roll Call is going off of the 2008 Prez numbers; Meg Whitman easily won the district, and Carly crushed Boxer by an even biger margin. Toss-up is being generous right now. If it is Saldana, I am quite certain that Bilbray will win. You can ridicule me later if it pans out otherwise.

  134. SusyQue says:

    GF…on line info:
    SD moving to name Harvey Milk Street |…/sd-first-city-have-harvey-milk-street/
    6 days ago – San Diego is poised to be the first city in the country to have a road named after late gay rights activist Harvey Milk.

  135. Corey says:

    This woman from Dixon, IL was apparently some sort of hot shot horse trainer or breeder or something who used the millions of dollars she embezzled into that endeavor.

  136. NedStark says:

    Romney’s response to Obama’s “Silver Spoon” comment yesterday:

    “I’m certainly not going to apologize for my dad and his success in life,” Romney said on “Fox & Friends.” “He was born poor. He worked his way to become very successful despite the fact that he didn’t have a college degree, and one of the things he wanted to do was provide for me and for my brother and sisters.”
    The former Massachusetts governor, added: “The president likes to attack fellow Americans. He’s always looking for a scapegoat, particularly those [who] have been successful like my dad, and I’m not going to rise to that,” Romney said. “This is a time to solve problems. This is not a time for us to be attacking people. We should be attacking problems.”

    That’s a homerun of response. Romney has certainly gotten better on the trail.

  137. Corey says:

    I very much want Bilbray to win of course, but everything I have read has said that much of his previous territory had been taken away and the new district was a good deal more Democrat.

  138. MD says:

    130 is really good advice.

  139. Corey says:

    Romney may have been born with a Silver Spoon in his mouth, but Obama was born with a Golden Retriever in his mouth.

  140. MD says:

    Stocks fell for a second straight day on Thursday as investors were discouraged by employment and housing market data and focused on underwhelming earnings reports.

  141. SusyQue says:

    GF…thanks for the info. I will have to pow-wow with my buddies. We begin sending e-mails to each other whenever we have some info on a candidate that is positive or negative. There is one fellow who sends out the info on the judges on the ballot and that helps a lot.

  142. Corey says:

    SSQ, which U.S. House district are you in?

  143. GF says:

    The seat is considerably more Dem, no doubt. It’s also filled with Indies who were swoned by Zero in ’08 and woke up to reality in ’10. That’s what makes me think that a real Marxist is a loser whereas a moderate, reasonably pro-business Dem has a good chance. Naturally, the Dem powers that be here see him as the insurgent and are backing the Marxist woman b/c she fits the profile they want; minority woman who cr@ps on religion, pumps up unions at everyone else’s expense, gives state money away to whining college students b/c education is a “right” than cannot be impeded in any way, and would be happy to crush private enterpsie and have the state run everything. She is the darling of the Dems here, and if she wins the nomination, Bilbray will have an advantage b/c he is not anywhere near as scary.

  144. Marv says:

    #87 MD,

    The reason for the question had to do with Singapore’s laws regarding homosexuality and the decision by your boss not to open an office there. I was wondering whether or not his decision was based on the fact that he might be unable to work in Singapore. I was not casting aspersions……..necessarily.

  145. bio mom says:

    Today Rubio said he will not accept vp if he gets the call.

  146. Marv says:

    #154 bio mom,

    General Eisenhower declined repeated requests to run for the Presidency. Then, he changed his mind.

    If Romney wants Rubio……Rubio will be sworn in on 20 Jan 13 at noon.

  147. Walt says:

    I assume that regarding the Quinni poll in the previous thread, someone pointed out that it is RV.
    So for LV it is pretty much even.

  148. Tim V says:

    I think the VP will end up being either McDonnell or Portman.

  149. Corey says:

    Since January 20, 2013 will be a Sunday, I think it is possible that there will be a 24 hour time period where the U.S. will not have a VPOTUS.

  150. Marv says:

    When Romney beats Obama, would it be racist to say…..”we have emerged from a very dark period in American history”?

  151. Marv says:


    The requirement is for the inauguration to occur on Jan 20th, no matter what.

  152. Walt says:

    I will say that if I am offered the VP slot,

    My state legislative goals that are so near to fruition would go out the window.
    (But if I DID accept, I guarantee you I will bring our 5 EC votes to the Mittster’s column.)

  153. Corey says:

    No particular order-

    McDonnell, Portman, Rubio, Jindal, Daniels, Pawlenty, Thune

  154. Corey says:

    The President will have to be sworn in at noon on January 20th, (which is likely to be a pretty low key event somewhere), but I am not sure if the VP has the same constitutional requirement.

    January 21st, which is the day where the public ceremonies should occur is also MLK Day, so if Obama is defeated, don’t be surprised if there is a call to either forgo all of that or push it up to Jan 22.

  155. Tim V says:

    162- all good choices

  156. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe that Paris has a street named for cop-killer Mumia Abu Jamal (he murdered a Philadelphia Police Officer). Given a choice between Milk Street and Mumia Street, I would vote for Milk Street.

  157. Tim V says:

    Robt. E Lee, a great American hero.

  158. Marv says:

    The VP choice is obvious…….Republic of Texas Governor and former US Air Force Captain Rick Perry. I’m surprised you mofo’s don’t see that………gee whillickers.

  159. Enjolras says:

    PLEASE send some $$ to this guy. NOW!

    He has a special election on Tuesday. I don’t like him but I hate the Dem.

    Planned Parenthood just dumped $100k against him as part of the War on Women meme. Worth noting, he does NOT support the ultrasound bill.

  160. Corey says:

    There will certainly not be a public event on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol on Sunday January 20, 2013. (I do believe there will be NFL playoffs though).

    This has happened on Sundays before, but it’s been a very long time before it did not involve an incumbent being sworn in for a second term.

  161. Marv says:

    #165 Bitterlaw,

    Neither would have street named after them in Texas…….the last bastion of American patriotism.

  162. addisonst says:

    A quick drive by. Midnight Run is a great movie and the cream soda reference never fails to delight. But trading places is still the official movie of hhr.

    Lonsmen Corey I will be in your nape of the neck for bulls- heat and trollop hunting tonight. Will email you later this pm.

  163. Walt says:

    I am late to the game today.

    So far today have there been any:

    1. Fights among HHR regulars?

    2. Drive-bys by the NC trolls?

    3. Any Maxwell-like leavings or returns of any of the HHR prodigal sons and daughters who have earlier left us?
    Somebody help me out here, so I won’t have to go read all the earlier stuff today–unless there is something real good.

  164. Tim V says:

    In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.
    Robert E. Lee

  165. Add in Chains says:

    Obama will be sworn in every day for the next 30 years. Every day!!!!!!! Hey, can you loosen these straps a little? No. Not the ball gag. Noooooooumphhhhhhhhhh.

  166. lisab says:

    “But is it Massachussetts snobbery? Because, there no worse kind in this country (well, with the possible exception of San Francisco).”

    people in san francisco are idiots

  167. Corey says:

    add, in honor of the NHL playoffs which will be going on at the exact same time, you should try to find a woman of the Coyote Ugly variety.

  168. DW says:

    I am telling you that my source in DC is saying that McDonnell is not on Romney’s list.

    Speaking of Romney:

    …hey, count your blessings, at least it wasn’t Bob Jones University.

  169. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – SUSYQUE taught us some words today. I can’t repeat them.

  170. addisonst says:

    I will be at Vipers alley. Have u been there?

  171. Enjolras says:

    I got accepted to, and nearly attended Liberty University.

    Also, I will be going back to College, part time, in the fall.

  172. MFG says:

    I often think of this quote of Lee

    “We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.”

  173. Marv says:

    #172 Walt,

    You missed the food fight……literally. Some of these numbskulls around here, mostly people from up north, don’t know that ketchup or Tabasco sauce is a requirement for scrambled eggs. How am I supposed to reason with people who are so misinformed about something as basic as ketchup and scrambled eggs?

  174. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – let me put down the pointy stick I jab you with for a moment. Good luck in school. Ok. Back to jabbing.

  175. Corey says:

    Vipers Alley in Lincolnshire? I think I’ve been there once. It’s fairly new Enjoy!

  176. GF says:

    177- That’s b/c McD wants to shove probes up women’s hoo-has. Even if he actually doesn’t, that ridiculous bill will tar and feather him for a nationwide GE, and Mitt does not need that distraction. He is best used barnstorming the state on Mitt’s behalf and using his formidable GOTV operation to put VA in the Red column. Then he can either be appointed to some plush Admininstration post or be given preference and all the $$$ in the world to go up against Warner in ’14.

  177. Bitterlaw says:

    I often think of this quote by Grant:

    Suck it, losers.

  178. Corey says:

    First time I ever saw anybody put ketchup on scrambled eggs was when I was at a restaurant with a professional wrestler as a child.

  179. NedStark says:


    Did they give a reason why…

    Vag probe bill?

    VA is locked up?

  180. Bitterlaw says:

    Marv – you probably put ketchup on hot dogs, too.

  181. GF says:

    Scrambled eggs are good (a fav as a child for me), but I’ve taken to paching mine now since I have become quite good at it (thanks to Julia Child). I do those with toast, bacon and some mixed greens on the weekends when I actualyl have time to make breakfast. M-F, though, I hit the roach coach in the parking lot and grab a breakfast quesadilla filled with egg, ham, bacon and sausage, or go to Bruegger’s and get a b-fast sandwich.

  182. Corey says:

    I’m anti-breakfast in general.

  183. Marv says:

    #188 NedStark,

    Because it’s going to be Gov Perry…….I hope.

  184. Corey says:

    Katy Perry has about as much of a chance to be Veep…

  185. Bitterlaw says:

    She looks better than Governor Perry, too. Much better.

  186. GF says:

    All this VP talk, I’m leaning to Portman myself. Not controversial, smart, makes OH harder for Zero. Daniels of course is top nothc, but Mrs. Daniels might still have osmething to say about that.

  187. DW says:

    188…no reason given. My guess is they feel that VA is well in hand. Which probably means that NC is good too. IF those two states are good, then there arn’t any other states in jeopardy, with the possible exception of FL, which of course is different from the deep south. But if the southeast as a region is well in hand, then there is no reason to pick a veep from this region. Mid-west might be the region to look to.

  188. GF says:

    KP might swing our way now that the Feminazis are trying to destroy her for that video where she dresses up like a Marine.

  189. Corey says:

    Definitely not counting out Bob McDonnell. In many ways, he makes the most sense, although I have been having Portman as # 2 on my list for well over a year as well.

  190. Marv says:


    The chow hall at the Air Force base where I went to pilot training mixed in the ketchup while they were still cooking the scrambled eggs. It save us time after we went through the chow line and got to the table.

  191. MFG says:

    Text of Grant’s Order

    General Order No. 11 decreed as follows:

    The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department [of the Tennessee] within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order.
    Post commanders will see to it that all of this class of people be furnished passes and required to leave, and any one returning after such notification will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permit from headquarters.
    No passes will be given these people to visit headquarters for the purpose of making personal application of trade permits.[8]

    I wonder why we’ve never heard about this?

  192. GF says:

    200- I’ve seen that elsewhere, too, Marv, at Lackland AFB in San Antonio. Must be a flyboy thing (since you are always on the run and have time for nothing but planes, women and booze).

    I’m told by pilots that it is quite thrilling to command 10,000 lbs. of thrust in your pelvis.

  193. MD says:

    154 – I have been saying that for months but no one listens. He doesn’t want it. However, I kept him on my short list because pols have a way of changing their minds.

  194. Bitterlaw says:

    So, Jul, I wish you luck in school and you respond like that? Ok. Maybe your college will teach a class on how to read a calendar so you stay out of trouble in the future. I will not elaborate because I do not want to go nuclear.

  195. Enjolras says:

    “I’m anti-breakfast in general.”

    At last Corey! We’ve found common ground.

  196. Wes-sexy says:

    I’m told by pilots that it is quite thrilling to command 10,000 lbs. of thrust in your pelvis.

    It sure is!

  197. NedStark says:

    ahhh. I was just getting my confidence back it would be McDonnell. Now who knows….If not McDonnell then Portman or a darkhorse candidate like TPaw.

  198. Corey says:

    It’s remarkable how much the Cubs suck this year.

    How long is this rebuilding thing supposed to last?

  199. GF says:

    205- Calendar? Grab the popcorn, this could get good, fast…

  200. GF says:

    Perhaps Rocky could swing by and regale us with how the VP pick will be Sen. Styles Bridges or some other NE type of moderate RINO from years gone by.

  201. Enjolras says:

    Yes, $500 late fines for CFRs are a bitch.

  202. GF says:

    CFR…Code of Federal Regs?

  203. Bitterlaw says:

    MFG – I must have missed the part where Grant defended an entire culture and economic system where blacks were systematically worked until death.

  204. Corey says:

    Can Rick Santorum read a calender? Is that why he has so many kids?

  205. Enjolras says:


    Nah, bitter was just refering to how I had to pay $500 in late filing fines for filing my CFR a month late.

    He may also reference my “scandal” of texting during a board meeting about 8 months ago.

  206. Corey says:

    On behalf of the Jews, we forgive U.S. Grant.

    He was too drunk to know what he was doing anyway…

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    GF – Jul’s donations to the Commonwealth around election time are greatly appreciated by the taxpayers.

  208. MFG says:

    No he just murdered civilians, owned slaves and conducted progroms against the Jews while ordering his subordinate to burn and rape and murder their way across the Southeast

    Wonderful guy

  209. Enjolras says:

    Campaign finance report

  210. Enjolras says:

    Well, since I rent and don’t pay property taxes, it’s the least I can do!

  211. MFG says:

    Conducting a war to end slavery while owning slaves yourself….

    Words fail

  212. Bitterlaw says:

    Plantations were death camps. They just ook longer than the gas chambers. Ok, MFG, are we done for the day on this topic?

  213. MFG says:

    You started it

  214. Enjolras says:

    If Texas (or any other such state) leaves the Union “Ya’ll can go to hell! I’m goin to Texas!”(or wherever)

  215. Bitterlaw says:

    Own slaves, impregnate at least one and write the Declaration of Independence to proclaim the inalienable rights to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness at the same time? Jefferson made Grant look like a saint.

  216. Marv says:


    The War of Northern Aggression was not about slavery, it was about northern aggression.

  217. Bitterlaw says:

    You started it

    Comment by MFG

    I’m rubber and you’re glue, mf-er. Cream soda (and not that crappy Egg Cream that NYCmike pushes).

  218. MFG says:

    Tell both sides of the story thats all I want

    Like this:

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”


    Abraham Lincoln
    (1809-1865) 16th US President

  219. Enjolras says:

    And that’s why Adams > Jefferson

  220. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought it was about TARP and the Kyoto Treaty, Marv.

  221. Enjolras says:

    Chocolate Egg Cream > Cream soda (regardless of definition)

  222. lisab says:

    “It’s remarkable how much the Cubs suck this year.”


    i don’t thin that word means what you thin it means.

  223. Enjolras says:

    No one may ever mock Bitter for his love of his cat.

    I have 4.


  224. Bitterlaw says:

    Marv and Phil – can you weigh in on whether a show-tune singing, semi-educated, sports-hating Trump supporter has happy prospects in Texas?

  225. lisab says:

    my name is inigo montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die

  226. Enjolras says:


    I own guns and know enough not to cook a steak any further than medium rare.

    I’d be better off than well…you.

  227. lisab says:

    “No one may ever mock Bitter for his love of his cat. I have 4. Four”

    you’re a 59 year old divorced woman?

  228. Corey says:

    lisa, good luck in Indonesia. I hope they have vegan dog specialties there for you to dine on.

  229. SusyQue says:



  230. GF says:

    I’m not getting suckered into this petty squabble betwixt elder states back East. My peeps had nothing to do with that and indeed came to America after that mess.

    Cream soda for all (though I may need a neat bourbon if this argument goes on through to its usual length).

  231. Marv says:

    #231 Bitterlaw,

    Those were major factors, also bowing to Muslim Kings and expressing “regret” for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Haditha were a major bones of contention. The media never reported any of that accurately.

  232. hugh says:

    DW. Florida is a lock this time around no matter how much gyrating Jensen must do to make it look otherwise. I suspect that Nelson will also be toast, but that is a bit of a higher climb.

  233. Bitterlaw says:

    Cats are fine judges of character. Dogs are pathetic sycophants. They are incapable of love. They just want food.

  234. GF says:

    241- The 53rd? Do you live down in Chulajuana or Imperial Beach? I’m guessing that you don’t live downtown or near Balboa Park.

  235. Enjolras says:


    It’s a possibility worth exploring.

  236. Bitterlaw says:

    you’re a 59 year old divorced woman?

    Comment by lisab — April 19, 2012 @ 4:05 pm

    Post of the day.

  237. Enjolras says:

    I don’t trust anything that loves unconditionally.

  238. MFG says:

    A cat would watch an intruder beat you to death with a hammer while licking its balls

    Your dog will die for you

  239. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – you can’t own enough guns to hide your lack of sports knowledge. Texans worship football.

  240. GF says:

    Oh noes! Mitt calls out someone for buying a pie crust or something, and Democrats nationwide flip out to make it a scandal.

  241. Bitterlaw says:

    Your dog would eat your dead body.

  242. SusyQue says:

    246….I live north of Laurel Street…mission Hills

  243. lisab says:

    “you’re a 59 year old divorced woman?

    Comment by lisab — April 19, 2012 @ 4:05 pm

    Post of the day.”

    it takes a great woman to not make a sarcastic comment when a man admits he has four cats …

    i guess i’m just a good woman …

    well … i’m ok 🙂

  244. Enjolras says:

    Football is the one sport I enjoy so, as I said earlier,

  245. Jerry muthertruckin' Cruncher says:

    Thanks all, but the solution for my depression was the drudge headline.

  246. Enjolras says:


    You’re more fluent in nerdspeak than I.

    As I said several days ago, your husband is a lucky duck.

    Don’t get beheaded! (There’s a joke there but I’ll let someone else make it)

  247. Corey says:

    How can Bitter not like dogs?

    I am beginning to see what happened in Ward 9.

  248. lisab says:

    i lie three nerdy shows

    blade runner
    terminator, but not the last two movies

  249. GF says:

    Nice neighbourhood, Susy; a pity you got stuck with Davis. Could be worse; at least you don’t live in Ocean Beach. My wife’s cousins are near Sunset Cliffs, and as gorgeous as that area is, I hate having to drive through the ghetto to get to dinner.

  250. Enjolras says:

    I don’t like Firefly.
    Never saw Bladerunner.
    Terminator is ok.

    I’m getting into Firefly to humor a ladyfriend.

  251. lisab says:

    “Never saw Bladerunner.”

    wuh duh ma huh tah duh fong kwong duh wai shung!

  252. GF says:

    NT (lot of polls)…

  253. SusyQue says:

    Corey…did you get the district I live in. 53rd…read #161

    I can see downtown high rises AND the bay from from my house.

  254. SusyQue says:

    Tim V. …Words like this are always a blessing:

    Robert E. Lee opposed Slavery, and had freed the slaves he inherited from his Wife’s estate long before the war. One of them, William Mac Lee, chose to stand by Robert E. Lee’s side throughout the war, serving as his cook and confidant. This former slave and friend described Lee with these words, “I was raised by one of the greatest men in the world. There was never one born of a woman greater than Gen. Robert E. Lee”.

  255. sickofdems says:

    #250 is post of the day.

  256. Emerica says:

    Alaska GOP is caving to Ron Paul legal threats today.

    from the da ily Paul

    They are responding

    Submitted by Alaskan on Thu, 04/19/2012 – 14:29. Permalink

    From my email just a moment ago.
    In an abundance of caution and a desire to make sure that no FEC laws were being broken Chairman Ruedrich and the legal counsel of the Alaska Republican Party have crafted the following regarding collection of delegate fees. In my opinion the rules were certainly clear about the 10 day requirements and were it up to me they would have been enforced.

    Frank McQueary, Asst. Treasurer

    Some concern has recently arisen regarding the payment of delegate fees for next week’s Alaska Republican Party State Convention. Hopefully, this email will help to clear up any misconceptions.

    (1) The party will accept delegate fees until the close of registration at the convention. The convention hotel requires a count of attendees by the end of today, however, and so those paying their delegate fees after today cannot be guaranteed meals at the convention.

    (2) Payment of delegate fees may be made by personal check, credit card, or debit card. Cash, money orders, and corporate checks or credit cards may not be used to pay delegate fees.

    (3) Delegates must pay their own fees. Third parties may not pay delegate fees on behalf of a delegate (family members may pay from a family account), nor can they promise to reimburse a delegate for their fees.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick – Attorney

  257. Emerica says:

    As another heads up..

    North Carolina GOP District Conventions start this weekend on April 21.

  258. Emerica says:

    Journalist Ben Swann is working on the Alaska story right now if indeed there is still a story (if it hasn’t been fixed.)