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Petraeus Resigns After Extra-Marital AffairThe news is here. Just to think, many Republicans would routinely mention his name as a Presidential or Vice Presidential nominee over the past few years. It just adds to my long-running theory that for all the ones who get caught, there has got to be a bunch of elected leaders out there that still haven’t been….
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First.
Lies…He resigned because of the cover-up from Libya. Subpoena is ass and get him before the House committee.
I don’t entirely get the connection here. It seems like a good excuse for him to use if he wanted to get out after the CIA has been given the fall by Obama about Benghazi. Sort of like when a politician resigns to spend time with his family. And why would a D administration care about extramarital affairs?
Obama didn’t ask for the resignation.
Brandon, you cannot know that for sure. But I agree with that. Patreus wanted out of this administration, especially since it was obvious they were going to blame everything Benghazi on the CIA.
The resignation is a little too convenient. Doesn’t matter whether “Obama didn’t ask for his resignation”
Like I said, a little too inconvenient.
This is just the beginning. To bad for the country that it happens after the elections.
Was there really an affair or is it a cover for an easily accepted exit and the ability to tell the truth during his testimony?
This next term is going to be quite a ride. Full throated leftism like this country has never seen before. Nothing to stop this man. Absolutely nothing.
At least the House will have investigative powers to bad the media will cover it up.
7…….wouldn’t matter, as long as the tit stays full they don’t care about anything else.
No electoral considerations to stand in Obama’s way and a MSM that will cover for everything this man wants to do to our system of government and the policies that onces came out of that system.
Not anymore.
Another place where we kind of had net loss of votes was in 3rd parties.
In 2008 Ralph Nader got 739278 votes and Greens got 161870 which one can argue would have gone to Obama if they were not there. That is about 902K. Similarly in 2008 Libertarians got 523433 and Consitution got 199880. That is about 723K that all things equal would have gone McCain if they were not there.
In 2012 Greens got 414360. Libertarians got 1172175 and Consitution got 114322. They are all tentitive and could very well go up. But in 2012 in all 414K votes could have gone to Obama if no 3rd party, and 1287K would have gone to Romney if no 3rd party.
From 2008 that is almost a net swing of 1 million votes againist Romeny due to the effects of 3rd parties. Granted not all Libertarian voters would have gone Romeny if Libertarians did not run a candidate but still 1 million is indicative of the net hurt to Romney relative to 2008 due to 3rd party candidates.
Someone did say that democracy in America would not go away in bloodshed but in thunderous applaud.
There has been a poster around here the last few days named ‘Eric Dondero’ who has been posting that any true American should be lashing out at Democrats in their personal life. He encouraged everyone to punch Democrats and spit in their faces.
Turns out he was not just another crazy poster. He’s a former aide to Ron Paul, and is now getting national attention for his psychotic beliefs:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/09/boycotting_democrats.html
As always, I appreciate the suggestions from anyone on how to make things better.
Dave W
Dave – It is your site and I am very thankful that you allow me to post here. However, I draw the line at banning Kate Upton videos.
Well, I guess it’s a good thing Romney never made much of an effort to convince the General to leave the CIA to be his VP.
Why not make life even more difficult for the Obama voter. Like Obama said elections have consequences.
Someone did say that democracy in America would not go away in bloodshed but in thunderous applaud.
Comment by terry
I thought it was Queen Amadala talking about Senator Palpatine in . . . oh. Yeah. I’m a nerd.
I don’t know what’s more hysterical…
Dondero’s rant or Tim V. suggesting Bitter and MD as moderators…
Personally, I would never “admit” to an affair that never happened to cover up something else.
20 – GFY, Hunter. I would moderate your a** right out of here.
Heh…
Bitter and MD as moderators? Bitter would ban the Reid haters and MD would ban the Reid fans
There are plenty of other ways to resign than to put your family through the media scrutiny because of a made up affair.
Oh and we all knew Eric Dondero was a nutjob. No surprise there.
I’d admit to an affair if it somehow tied me to Jessica Biel…
True or not…
Go out in a blaze of glory…
I blame Chris Christie.
I would only ban 0-100 for 23 hours and 58 minutes per day.
From the last thread:
Dave W,
I appreciate the fact that you have provided us the opportunity to exchange ideas here on The Hedgehog Report. You do a great job running it and I thank you for it.
He’s a former aide to Ron Paul
Not new information as it said that in his signature in every post.
or Tim V. suggesting Bitter and MD as moderators
Joke of the day.
MD has some very keen political insights. Bitter ran twice for congress. As guest moderators I assume they would be on their best behavior or Dave would quickly pull the plug on their moderating privileges
Tim V. – When I am not terrorizing the good folks here at the Hog, I am a respected Officer of the COurt.*
*All attorneys are called that in PA.
I would not hesitate to have either Bitter or MD as moderators.
I have always thought that the name stealing, phony polls and foul language has brought this site down.
Its hard to serious discussions of politics and issues here. You have to weed through some much junk. It did not use to be that way here.
attoronys and judges respect each other. the general public…not so much
rd, also the personal insults too
Neither has the temperament for the job of moderating comments.
Change nothing.
Yours is one the few sites that thrives on a simple format.
HHR polices itself. Is there too much profanity? Absolutely. Am I responsible for at least my fair share? Absolutely. Have I jumped on people for unacceptable vulgarity? Ask Rocky if I have ever forgotten or forgiven him for his slur against lisab.
I think if Bitter and MD accepted the job they would live up to the task.
tricks, md has taken anger management courses. he also was a moderator before at right pundits as was tina. he could do the job
I think the idea of somebody sitting around deleting comments and banning people except under the most outragous cases is absurd. Stay or leave. Is there a lot of off-topic discussion here? Of course. If this site ever became limited to nothing but “Obama sucks.” “I agree but I thinks he sucks more than that.” “Well, he sucks less than that on some issues bit more on others.” I’m gone.
As for people who are upset that this is no longer site to discuss polls – good. We sucked at it. We tortured numbers to make ourselves feel good and then got the election wrong. All of us.
All of us? Ahem.
@Tim V
Those anger management classes how recently were they taken? See thread(s) on October 9th (5:08pm forward) and tell me again you want that person moderating comments.
“We tortured numbers to make ourselves feel good and then got the election wrong. All of us.”
not me
hey guys has azguy stopped by yet? he was suppose to teach me something
46 confirmation bias . Its always been here. Md and a few others don’t fall for it. I didn’t but I hoped I was wrong
I tell you, Obama certainly has an uncommon amount of luck.
First a reelection campaign devised around no mention of a record, and nothing but attack ads on his opponent…works, and is lauded as brilliant.
The 2nd to last jobs number quite suddenly falls below 8%, to 7.8%, after 40 some months of stubbornly being above 8%.
He has a storm arrive the week before the election, which ends up diverting attention away from Benghazi and from Romney’s lead, giving Obama a brief but endearing moment to act presidential. 47% of people in the exit polls said that this event influenced their vote.
With this storm comes a wonderful photo op symbolizing cooperation/bipartisanship with his opponent’s keynote speaker at August’s RNC convention.
Then on election day, when everyone is saying it’s all about GOTV to see who would win this election…Romney’s new, untried GOTV Orca suddenly fail, while Obama’s proceeds flawlessly and robustly.
Finally, with Benghazi still breathing down Obama’s neck (but thankfully the election is behind him) his stellar CIA Director suddenly resigns, citing an extramarital affair…the week before he is supposed to be a major part of hearings going on about Benghazi. The latest is that he will not testify.
@janz – You could call it luck, others
(besides Sandy) would call it by design.
45- trick, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek if you will
#50 It does make one wonder (and speculate) how one comes by such extended luck, doesn’t it?
Another fortunate aspect of Obama’s reign is how little is being reported on the aftermath of Sandy, and the problems with Obama’s Fema outreach. When Katrina hit, there were stories night and day about the suffering going on in LA, But now, where are they. Oh yeah, Drudge has captured a few by-lines today:
Obama looks ready to climb up to 51% of the popular vote count (technically, to climb past 50.5%)
@janz
Fortunate? Much more like a given considering the hypocrisy and double standards exhibited by most of the press while one of their own is in office.
#54 Tricks
I’m being sarcastic, mainly because I am so discouraged by this election…Personally, I don’t see how this president can get away from so many blunders/malfeasance, without being called on it by someone — if not the press, then most surely the electorate could have given him his due by throwing him out of office!
The main premise of this blog is to discuss polls…
Nearly every thread started by Dave W is based on a poll…
To dismiss that, Bitter, I think is a little disingenuous to the people who come here looking for that information and discussion…
I certainly do…
Because as you know, I was so damn good with the Colorado numbers…
@janz – I am sad to say many simply don’t care as long as the checks keep coming, the others were too afraid of the big bad rich Mormon. I am more upset with the later, then the former who at least followed the script, voting in their own self interest.
This too shall pass, but not before causing irreversible damage.
MD and Bitter as moderators? Had that been the case, I would have been banned in short order for holding views that ultimately panned out.
I guess this is the woman Petraeus was having an affair with…
http://www.paulabroadwell.com/
The book she wrote about him was called…
Wait for it…
Wait for it…
“All In: The Education of General David Petraeus”…
No joke…”All In”
Let’s see…
Since post-election we have…
1) Drone fired at by Iran…
2) Petraeus affair…
3) 1.6M acres of Federal Land shut down from any shale oil exploration…
And it’s still Friday…
@Hunter Yup.
The proposed plan would fence off a majority of the initial blueprint laid out in the final days of the George W. Bush administration. It faces a 30-day protest period and a 60-day process to ensure it is consistent with local and state policies. After that, the department would render a decision for implementation. -TheHill.com
Makes one wonder just what next week will bring, particularly with the president out of town. Voters can’t say they were not warned.
Paula Broadwell on Charlie Rose –
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12162
Those exit polls showing Mitt barely won Cubans are mpst likely inaccurate as Vubans who vote AB werent polled.
Can anything good come out of an obama administration? (Rhetorical question.)
“Those exit polls showing Mitt barely won Cubans are mpst likely inaccurate”
Ahhhhhh!!!! The POLLS ARE WRONG!!!!!
65, got that from Miami Herlads Marc A Caputo, NOT a poll truther
The only thing that was not surprising was how quick the narrative turned into “minority vote” Just minutes after the announcement that Obama won, all the commentators were discussing minirity population size, minority outreach and now that is the household mantra.
But as somebody already pointed out, here, Obama didn’t have nearly as much support from the minority demographics as 4 years ago.
I enjoy seeing people pretend Romneycare, flip flopping, lying, and war hawking had nothing to do with it.
Simply put, he was no different from the other totalitarian sciopath he was running against.
If I had a soul, Tim V.’s posts would have made me do some soul-searching. I have decided that I am going to try to achieve something of lasting value at HHR. I am going to try to broker a peace between the one-of-a-kind lisab and long-time poster and conscience of HHR, Tim V.*
*lisab – the guy has cancer. Let it go. I promise you can hate anybody else twice as much. You can hate me all day every day if you need to. I think it would mean something to him.
So let me get this straight. An affair gets you out of the cia but not the oval. Also, talked to Walt today. He sends his regards. What a gracious man.
67 – Nice of you to join us before midnight, WEC.
test?
Just got my Obamaphone in the mail today!!
Hmmmm…The only ringt0ne options are Obama’s race speech and Michelle saying “kale” over and over and over.
Impeach Joe Biden!
Obama is a genius – with the exception of Boehner, look at the Parade of Horrors in the line of succession. No more talk of impeachment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession#Current_order
Let me just say: Thank GOD we’ll have a new Kennedy in Congress, starting in January.
The last two years were just *AGONY* without one. I don’t know how the country survived as long as it did.
Laissez le bon temps roule!
I misss Mr. Vito
Hey everybody, just thought I’d drop in and say HI. Perfect timing for the Petraeus resignation don’t you think. Still don’t understand why he can’t testify. Anybody paying attention to the mass layoffs since the election? We will continue to see that trend, especially when Obamacare begins to be fully implemented.
I will NEVER come back if MD becomes a moderator
me neither
MD would be fine as a Mod.
Bitter OTOH…
…That would be like having ME as a mod. Hell fluking no!
Did Dave W win any recognition for his site? I couldn’t vote because I have an iMac. and could not close the deal.
Fess up Bitter….you are Mr. Vito!
I am not Mr. Vito.
PETRAEUS, away from his wife for long periods of time with a young gal who was writing his bio…what a set up for an affair. He knew better and she knew better….. What a humiliation for his wife and children! If he would betray his marriage vows…he would lie for ooo’s murder of 4 fine men.
A Jay Cost aspirin for the 2012 post election migrain.
We know who Vito is. It’s not Bitter
I am Mr. Vito! Muwahahahaha!
I can’t be a moderator? I have been involved in more truces than almost anybody here. Some of them lasted days.
#15
You didn’t recognize the name?
Guess that’s a dumb question since it’s inside baseball, but i always assumed that handle was a joke aimed at annoying me.
He had an out falling with Ron Paul basically
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9qV5HZfIEHw/UJpTEZcwO8I/AAAAAAAAzqA/qayCLTP2Alk/s1600/PissonObama.jpg
Comedian Doug Stanhope: ‘Teach a man to fish…’
Would MD, as the moderator, have to give up saying F..You! when he is angry?
Poll: Nearly One Third Of Americans Would Accept ‘TSA Body Cavity Search’ in Order to Fly
Laura Ingraham is a real b…..h. Has been a major contributor to the difficulty of the Republican party. And diving right back in again! Huckabee tonight had to essentially chastise her.
Please – no more Huckabee/Santorum/Bachman candidates. Please.
Laura Ingrahm is wonderful. Loved listening to her show when I was down in NC working on Bill Graham’s campaign for Gov in 07.
Emerica,
If they every try to so much as pat me down, I’ll hand them a copy of the Constitution and turn around.
No government official has the right to lay a hand on my person.
I would not consent to a full body image scan either.
Metal detectors and wands are as far as I will go.
“Please – no more Huckabee/Santorum/Bachman candidates. Please.”
Huckabee would have won.
Santorum and psycho Bachmann would have lost overwhelmingly. Glad to have Michele back in Congress, though.
C
100
Sure. Obama never would have mentioned the killer he set free who then went on to kill police officers. It would just be our little secret. Shhhhhhhhhhh.
And Huck would have said “Benghazi”
Doesn’t matter, Huckabee didn’t run and his complicity in the Akin phuk up means he (like Christie) must never be POTUS.
Campaign Sources: The Romney Campaign was a Consultant Con Job
I’m not buying the GOTV excuse. If we relied upon peple too lazy or stupid to go vote without hand holding, then we really are in trouble.
Hello?
ORCA malfunctioning must have shut down the HedgeHog Report.
It’s a Friday night, people have better things to do….
Bitter,
My County GOP Chair’s wife (a County Commissioner) reported the same problems with ORCA.
Similar to problems we have with the Orca I sincerely hope NJ Primary voters harpoon next year.
Maybe GF and I will start an anti-Jindal PAC. I have nothing against Jindal. I just want to f*ck with other peoples’ states without having to move there.
http://mobile.lehighvalleylive.com/advlehigh/db_96810/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=ZDAAJseF
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/index.ssf/2012/11/bethlehem_to_raise_property_ta.html#incart_river_default
Progress in the Lehigh Valley!
Always nice to see a Lehigh loss.
RB – I have no idea who those pols are but if they were Democrats, Jul would find some bizarre reason to support some of them.
Callahan is the mayor of Bethlehem who ran and lost to Dent in 2010.
Callahan is supposedly running for NorCo county exec next year. That article makes me doubt he’s actually going to do it.
I voted for the Independent over him and Dent in 2010.
Race of 2016: Hillary Clinton vs. Marco Rubio
116- Major assumption that Hillary even runs at that point. I suspect (assuming he stays free of scandal, etc) that Rubio will run- open seat Presidential election and the timing for him would never be better- around 45 years old, kids a little older, a full term in the senate under his belt- a high GOP priority on doing better with Latinos.
This is perhaps the most apt statement about Government that I’ve ever read:
“To say governments were formed to protect the rights of men would be historically incorrect. Almost all governments were formed by ruthless men exerting their will over others through the use of force”.
Everybody should read this:
http://mises.org/daily/3427
so susy que isn’t a blithering idiot who thinks god likes republicans but a brilliant satire? Yolanda you are wicked funny but if the hall monitor is a parody you are bush league by comparison.
Biggest football game of the year is sunday. Everybody enjoy
Registration is a really dumb idea. I certainly won’t be around if it happens.
But I have always defended the view that the blog owner decides what he wants and people can stay or leave.
” Huckabee would have won.”
Arkansas maybe. About 140 EV’s max.
Pop. vote end of Friday
Obama 62,001,928 51.37%
Romney 58,693,537
Obama’s second largest raw vote drop share came from California. He’s got a quarter less of the votes he received in 2008.
?????????????
THERE WERE BIGGER FORCES AT PLAY WHICH KEPT ROMNEY FROM WINNING…
The whole thing was preordained…
A Personal Note to President Obama
Bill O’Reilly
Dear Mr. President:
You must be tired. Please take some time off. You worked very hard to get re-elected. As a loyal American, I want you in good health, and that means some rest and relaxation once in a while.
But when you ramp it up again, I hope you will consider some suggestions from a citizen who’s a bit disappointed in your overall performance. Please understand that I am not looking at this from an ideological perspective, but rather from a sports point-of-view.
I want American leadership to win the game. That means improving the economy, bolstering protection for the folks and running an honest operation from the White House. At this point in history, that’s what winning means to me.
Let’s take the economy first. Apparently, you believe that massive government spending can create well-paying jobs in the private sector. But after four years and almost a trillion dollars of federal money being fed into the economy, it hasn’t worked. Unemployment is about the same as it was when you took over in 2009, and wages are down sharply.
You spent a ton of our money, Mr. President, and we didn’t even get a T-shirt.
Now, I know some of my fellow citizens see it differently and voted for you believing your economic vision is sound. But let’s be honest: The voter breakdown clearly shows that folks receiving some kind of government largesse supported you big-time, while those avidly competing in the marketplace voted for Gov. Romney.
It was no accident that the day after your victory, the stock market plummeted 313 points.
So I hope you’ll rethink the big spending and begin to make it easier for small-business people to make money. When they are flush, the job market surges. When they feel threatened, hiring shuts down.
I well understand that the “tax the rich” mantra got you some political currency. But we both know that strategy will do little to stimulate anything other than jealousy.
On the security front, may I suggest that you be a stand-up guy? Please hold a press conference and tell the folks what you know about the terror attack in Libya and why things are such a mess. This “we’re investigating” stuff is a ruse. Telling us what you know does not impede an investigation.
Dodging Libya hurt your honesty index. And that hurts the country. It is very important that the folks trust you even if they don’t like you. Take that from me. My television program has been top-rated for nearly 13 years, and it’s not because I’m Dale Carnegie. Most Americans respect straightforward talk even if they are annoyed by it.
More:
http://townhall.com/columnists/billoreilly/2012/11/10/a_personal_note_to_president_obama/page/full/
To me, Laura Ingrahm is a most unpleasant person.
She talks continually while the polite guest is responding to her premise. She dissed Mitt Romney throughout his race. Tell me, today…whom would you rather have for our president today…Mitt or ooo. Deep down, I feel the presidential race was stolen…even if 3 million foolish Republicans stayed home. I felt something was very wrong when Fox came out strong for the voters who gave their opinion when they came out of the voting booth…it was totally fast and furious. Then the
actual counting of the votes and then the crash.
It was all very weird. Four more years of this inept leader…unbelievable! Now he skipped off to Asia while “others” take care of the dire fiscal mess we have inherited. It is inexcusable that the thousands of people in New York and New Jersey have no power and a shortage of
gasoline. Surely, the 49 others states have resources to help them. The Alinski way is to create chaos…we are seeing it now. SAD.
SusyQue:
It’s God’s will.
I guess God is an abortion-loving Democrat. SusyQue told us the election was in God’s hands. Maybe the GOP does need to pray to Baal.
WSJ:
Mr Petraeus’s wife Holly works at the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, as the head of its office for “service member affairs”
Laura Ingrham is very funny on current events…say what you will it is enjoyable. We lost, they won. and now we should not help them at all…
I hope a good day rolled onto RAS last night.
Any Republican who didn’t vote for Romney should be tossed out of the party. I blame them more than the Democrats. It may not be possible to identify them but if it is they have to be thrown out before they can vote in the 2016 primaries.
Good morning
Guten tag
#127 Jack…#128 Bitter… did not say it was God’s will….actually, it was the people’s will who voted for him and the 3 million that stayed home. Not to mention the destruction of Mitt’s connection to the Internet that wouldn’t receive the correct password and finally collapsed. God has put us in charge of this world. Yes, in the Garden of Eden.He will be taking it back…probably in our lifetime. Read the Book of Revelation.
#135…***I did not…
How come every generation claims Revelation is in the present time. This has been true for about 1500 years. Now, I may need some brushing up on the bible as a Catholic in central Jersey, but didn’t I read somewhere no one will know when the end times are coming-including Evangelical Baptist Minisisters from the present era.
Well, well….. madam mistress is married too!
The major twist during the chat is when Broadwell reveals she’s married. When Stewart asks her if Petraeus will run for president, she says he isn’t. “He’s not,” she says. “My husband wants me to say he is because it’ll sell more books. “Sorry, honey, I couldn’t do it.”
#137…Matthew 24:36…No one knows the day nor the hour of the return of Jesus to the earth…not even the angels…
The prophesies in the Bible tell us what signs to look for. For Christians it could be any day.
46….no, you just rudely cut down anyone that happen to question what everyone was saying and exressed doubt as to the outcome they were predicting.
It is funny that Ras makes it a point in his site to state that his approval ratings for Obama are now based on 72/28 and 38/32.
126….not just 4 more years. This is just the beginning of the D reign because the R will never be able to give, give, give, like them.
As a person of faith, I sm having a difficult time understanding the election results aslo. Never have the distinctions between good and evil been clearer in my mind. Why did God not respond to all the prayers?? The cynical will say there is no God or God doesn’t care. I will always believe differently.
I do not think these results were God’s will. It was our free will. God can reach out and try to get people on the right path. If individuals or nations reject him, he allows us to make those decisions and live with the consequences. These are going to be trying times for all of us. We need to reach out all the more for his guidance and love.
I am thinking the House will end up
235R 200D–nice round numbers. There has been so little comment in DC about Mrs. Immaterial. Nancy Pelosi. She lead her party over the cliff in 2010 in the worst defeat in modern times. Yet she survived and in fact came within inches of pushing her long time foe Hoyer.
This year never has a leader raised so much money, spent more time campaigning and have so very little to show for it.
I suspect if she goes for leader there will be nearly a dozen votes or more will go against her. Prospects for 2014 could be worse then 2010 but I suspect she decides to hang on. Her caucus will never boot her out. She just a matter of whether she wants to postpone others moving up the leadership ladder until 2015 or 2017.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/winning_the_future_the_fiscal-conservative_fantasy.html
This about sums it up. The idea of cannibalizing your own base and ensuring doom is stupid, not new, and has been done even in 1974.
Would not the current election results result in fi-con conservatism being tossed to appeal to the majority?
Sure, but we so-cons are not out there demanding big gov in response.
We need both ficons and socons as as a base, then reach out.
Hispanics need to see fi-con-ness as good for them, AND we need to appeal to them on gay marriage and abortion grounds, not call a truce on social issues.
If Dems lost Mexicans over abortion, which is illegal there despite socialism, they would NEVER come to the conclusion they need to “call a truce” on social issues and back down from abortion, abortion, abortion being legal and common.
They stick to their principles. We never learn to repackage ours and cut and run at the first sign of worry.
No wonder we are called the Stupid Party…
I do not think these results were God’s will.
Comment by Ho-dogg
What better way to punish a nation for it’s inequities than to allow a marxist destroyer to have a free hand. The trogs desreve what is about to unfold.
No wonder we are called the Stupid Party…
Comment by dinglewoodnorwoodbill
The gelding party.
#143…I agree with what you have stated.
I guess the Laura Ingraham’s of the world play their role but I do not like her and I feel she is one of the reasons that the Republican party cannot compete nationally as well as it should. She is so ideological. I agree with Susy. She dissed Mitt when she should have supported him as our candidate and could not wait one day to start again after the election. She has learned nothing from this defeat.Her message appears to be, stay the course of super conservatism. Make no compromises. We are right and we will win. Unfortunately, we won’t.
143-Divine intervention in our history is rare, as you sight free will. Somehow, I think the supreme being is not as concerned about wether or not taxes are raised on people making 250,000 or more. If he did have to intervene, I would imagine the instances rare and emergent(see Churchill and the Battle of Britain).
If it were pure Good vs Evil, depending on what you believe, God (maybe) would have “intervened”…
Maybe some of you need to revisit what Evil actually is…
I heard that quite a bit here…Good vs Evil…
Half my family is Liberal and voted for Obama…
Are they Evil?…No…just wrong, but not Evil…
Yes, at least for the time being,Rasmussen has corrected his daily sample to that of the National Exit Polls,which includes a 38(D),32(R) and 30(I&O) in Party ID.
Rdelbov-outside of a few seats like CA31, MI1, and NV3 are most of our seats pretty much locked in barring a scandle or another genius description of rape.
Since Obama won, I don’t see a big Dem year in 2014(6 year itch) or 2016 when the presidency is open.
Ras…
51-47 (-1)…
Just saying…
“…they have to be thrown out before they can vote in the 2016 primaries.”
How exactly do you throw anyone out of a party?
What is the mechanism?
Abortion is never going to be illegal everywhere in thr US. Never. The only battle left is funding. Gay marriage/civil unions are coming for the 2% at most in the US who would enter them. That issue is lost because young people don’t care. I don’t have to marry a guy. I do have to pay taxes. Sorry. Fight the fights we can win.
An inside look behind Romney’s loss: An epic failure of its Orca big-data app
http://blogs.computerworld.com/governmentindustries/21310/inside-look-behind-romneys-loss-epic-failure-its-orca-big-data-app
#157…Take # 157 article with a gain of salt. I believe it was hacked!
#154…Independents? Really? Perhaps Dems who voted as Independents! That has been mentioned.
MFG, Did you start that LA petition?
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of course sandy and the election results were God’s will.God is sovereign and He will work His will and His way. America is no where to be found in Bible prophecy yet Israel, Iran and Russia are. Why is that ? Many believe Israel will be forced to confront Iran and Russia without a strong USA to protect Israel, at THAT point God will directly intervene showing Israel that He is their God and Jesus is their Messiah.
As America has gradually become more like Sodom and Gomorrah and more secular and violent, she is beginning to reap what she has sown.Just as the Israelites were allowed to be taken into captivity by Nebuchadnezzar so America is being allowed to travel down the road of Greece with economic chaos.
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SoHope
Any thoughts on the Republican to run against Kay Hagan in two(2) years in the NC Senate race?
I hope it is someone from the private sector,preferably from the Raleigh or Charlotte area.
She is very vulnerable because of her lockstep voting with the Liberal Senate Dems.
Jack is right. We can’t throw people out of the GOP. How about this? We create a website for people who want to say why they stayed home or didn’t vote for Romney. Then we give their e-mail addresses to Bunu. F ‘em.
Dem. Senator Mark Pryor in Arkansas should be a goner after 2014.In 2008,Arkansas tossed Dem. Blanche Lincoln for her ObamaCare vote. The same will happen to Pryor.
Dem. Senator Jay Rockefeller in West Virginia is also a goner in the next election cycle through retirement or loss.Look for Rep. Congresswoman Shelly Cavito to win the seat.
Dem. Senator Mary Landrieu in Louisiana should also go bye-bye in 2014.
#104 Bitter
“I’m not buying the GOTV excuse. If we relied upon peple too lazy or stupid to go vote without hand holding, then we really are in trouble.”
You’re right, in the sense that people should be self-motivated to vote. A lot of people did get out and vote for Romney too, without any external nudge. However, it’s the dems who can get their broader margins, by literally dragging, nagging, bribing people to vote — and, because of that R’s find themselves in the position of having to do the same thing, in order to be competitive.
I also don’t think having a more substantial message works anymore, as people are driven more by superficiality than by common sense — or so it seems to me. And, so maybe we are in trouble — something that was brought up during this election about being over a tipping point in the current kind of populace we now have in this country.
Here’s my first prediction on 2016. The nominee will be either Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. Others like Walker, Jindal, and Christie might run, but they won’t be able to defeat either man. Both offer a substantial electoral power base (Florida) and both address the growing Hispanic population.
Jeb Bush, as the elder statesman and mentor to Rubio, will have first right of refusal. If Jeb Bush wants it, Rubio, Walker, and some of the other big names will stand down and support him so as not to have a long, drawn out primary. The long fight damaged Romney financially so that will be a lesson learned.
If Jeb Bush passes on a run in 2016, Marco Rubio will run and become the nominee. He might face some stiff competition from Walker, Christie, and Jindal, but his charisma will win it for him. He will be seen as the Republican version of Obama, young charismatic, and a talented speaker.
I have lots of respect for some of the other people who might run, but I don’t think they will be able to challenge either man. Here’s my list in order of preference three years before the caucuses in Iowa.
1. Jeb Bush
2. Marco Rubio
3. Scott Walker
4. Bobby Jindal
Robbie- I think we need Rubio or Martinez the top of the ticket and Walker or Jindal as the VP. A lot of vetting and debates are to come, but a Martinez/Walker ticket is formadable. As for Jeb, yes he is very smart and would be an excellent President, but people are still blaming his brother at this point for the economy. I am not sure if he can win with the last name Bush in 2016. Also, the GOP has to think about nominating someone other than a white middle aged guy. Ironically Jeb’s son George P. Bush may be a player 10-20 years from now. I do want to see Martinez start to throw her line in the sea to see what kind of candidate she could possibly be. I do know she is fairly culturally conservative and could possibly advance those issues to women and Hispanics in ways no one else in the GOP could.
Jeb will not run.
Rubio is the nominee if he wants it. He’s a charismatic three-fer – conservative, hispanic, and young.
“The good news is that reality (to use a quaint expression) doesn’t need to swing a couple of thousand soccer moms in northern Virginia. Reality doesn’t need to crack 270 in the Electoral College. Reality can get 1.3 percent of the popular vote and still trump everything else. In the course of his first term, Obama increased the federal debt by just shy of $6 trillion and, in return, grew the economy by $905 billion. So, as Lance Roberts at Street Talk Live pointed out, in order to generate every $1 of economic growth the United States had to borrow about $5.60. There’s no one out there on the planet – whether it’s “the rich” or the Chinese – who can afford to carry on bankrolling that rate of return. According to one CBO analysis, US government spending is sustainable as long as the rest of the world is prepared to sink 19 percent of its GDP into U.S. Treasury debt. We already know the answer to that: In order to avoid the public humiliation of a failed bond auction, the U.S. Treasury sells 70 percent of the debt it issues to the Federal Reserve – which is to say the left hand of the U.S. government is borrowing money from the right hand of the U.S. government. It’s government as a Nigerian email scam, with Ben Bernanke playing the role of the dictator’s widow with $4 trillion under her bed that she’s willing to wire to Timmy Geithner as soon as he sends her his bank account details.
If that’s all a bit too technical, here’s the gist: There’s nothing holding the joint up.
So, Washington cannot be saved from itself. For the moment, tend to your state, and county, town and school district, and demonstrate the virtues of responsible self-government at the local level. Americans as a whole have joined the rest of the Western world in voting themselves a lifestyle they are not willing to earn. The longer any course correction is postponed the more convulsive it will be. Alas, on Tuesday, the electorate opted to defer it for another four years.
I doubt they’ll get that long.”
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/debt-377298-government-trillion.html
#169…Jeb’s son George will run.
I think it’s 50-50 whether Jeb runs. When he made his decision in the Spring of 2011 not to run, those who knew him said he was eyeing 2016 because he thought 2012 was too soon thanks to his brother.
I think the GWB fever will have broken by 2016 thanks, in large part, to Obama. I think if Jeb wants it, it will be his. Almost certainly, Rubio won’t challenge him and I don’t think the other names have a realistic shot to do so either.
The question for Jeb though will be whether or not he wants it. I think he does, as much as anything, to right the perceived wrongs of his father and brother. Four years is a long time though and he may decide 10 years away from politics is too much.
If he does run, a Bush/Sandoval or Bush/Martinez ticket would be very potent.
Great. I now know the theme for the next 4 years at HHR:
Christie is dead to me
Jeb!!
Ron Paul or Rand Paul!!
Here is the thing about Christie that will prevent him from winning in 2016. He had publically called Asseblywomen Valarie Huttle a jerk. He has also said someone should take a bat to Senator Weinberg’s legs, who is a 77 year old widow. Then there is the tape of him with the ice cream cone at Seaside engaging in fighting words with someone. While I disagree with Weinberg and Huttle’s positions, he went overboard with his comments. The people of NJ have grown accustomed to this, but I don’t think suburban women in swing states will like what they hear when they see the best of Chris Cristie.
#170
Great Mark Steyn post!
” I am a respected Officer of the COurt.”
well … officer of the court is true
” the guy has cancer. ”
and have i told the friggin heathen to gfh recently?
plus i have been too busy worshiping mary, the patron saint of whores, to tell the bigot to gfh anyway
NT
Rand Paul 2016!
Pretty much anyone other than Christie or Santorum is acceptable so far as I’m concerned.
I’m with Rand, but I like pretty much the whole 2016 field.
As much as I like Jeb, voted for him both times for governor, I do not feel that the American people will vote for another Bush for President.
I honestly can’t imagine how anyone could come up with a better 2016 candidate than……….. Marco Rubio