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Warner Dominates VA Gov Race

Thank goodness for a new poll from Quinnipiac University for the state of Virginia because I really did not want to try and manufacture a post related to the Petraeus/Allen debacle again.

GOVERNOR – VIRGINIA (Quinnipiac)
Terry McAuliffe (D) 38%
Bill Bolling (R) 36%

Terry McAuliffe (D) 41%
Ken Cuccinelli (R) 37%

Mark Warner (D) 53%
Bill Bolling (R) 33%

Mark Warner (D) 52%
Ken Cuccinelli (R) 34%

Basically this shows that if Mark Warner wants his old job back, it is his for the taking. Interestingly, Bolling is slightly more electable against McAuliffe, but Cuccinelli is slightly more electable against Warner. This poll was done November 8-12 among 1469 registered voters. Hopefully this means we will also see a new gubernatorial poll for the state of New Jersey from Quinnipiac soon.

Don;t forget, I did set up the PollWatch page for Virginia and it can be found here.

Posted by Dave at 7:41 am
Filed under: General | Comments (242)

242 Responses to “Warner Dominates VA Gov Race”

  1. Diogenes says:

    If Warner runs, he’s going to run for president in 2016 and the GOP are really screwed …

  2. Bitterlaw says:

    Here is my post for today to prove I’m not leaving.

  3. Tim says:

    Good deal, Bitterlaw. Here’s mine, to prove I’m still around.

    I have no idea why one election result would send so many people away. It’s a political blog. I like politics. So, win or lose, here I am.

    And, where I live, I lose a lot more than I win.

  4. Yolanda says:

    I hope Terry McAuliffe runs so that he can lose to Warner in the primary. Watching that guy–who has to be one of the most annoying, odious people in politics–lose is endlessly entertaining.

  5. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim – I despise Obama but I did what I could do. I voted. I have to go to work no matter who wins or loses.

  6. Yolanda says:

    Btw, can reweight these polls for the proper DRI?

  7. Yolanda says:

    Never mind. I’ll do it. According to my re-weighting of these polls, the results really should be

    Terry McAuliffe (D) 98%
    Bill Bolling (R) 12%

    Terry McAuliffe (D) 91%
    Ken Cuccinelli (R) 1%

    Mark Warner (D) 103%
    Bill Bolling (R) 0%

    Mark Warner (D) universal support
    Ken Cuccinelli (R) -18%

  8. Big Ben 4 liberty says:

    If Warner wants to run for president then he would run for governor next year. That way he can avoid a sure to be brutal re-election campaign in 2014 (in which his party will likely be facing a “six-year itch” election cycle) against most likely Gov. Bob McDonnell (the man we should have nominated this year). Assuming he won that he would then have to turn right around and run for president all the while playing coy about his presidential ambitions.

    Still can’t understand why voters in VA like him. He lied in 2001 about wanting to raise taxes and even denounced his opponent for “negative campaigning and lies” when he suggested Warner would raise them during a debate. Then three years later he fallaciously claim a state budget crisis (at the time VA’s budget was in the black) and got the legislature to pass a bill. Even though the GOP controlled both houses he put together a coalition of RINOS with Democrats to pass it. Then when the state was flush with revenue he refused to consider to repealing of those tax increases.

    I will say he was good crony capitalist (if like Obama you consider that a good thing) who help start NEXTEL by working Capitol Hill for special tax breaks and regulatory exemptions and the like that their competitors would not likewise enjoy.

  9. AuH2ORepublican says:

    “139.This election makes no sense. Obama underperformed almost every single Senate Democrat candidate. He also lost 230-235 congressional districts against Romney.
    Dave Wasserman ?@Redistrict
    @greenfield64 @richardmskinner Back of the envelope, my estimate is that Obama won 200-205 Congressional districts, Romney 230-235

    Basically his victory is so shallow that GOP knows it can muff punch him and suffer very little consequence.

    Comment by Apologetic California — November 14, 2012 @ 12:35 am”

    Another way to put it is that if every state adopted the method for allocating electoral votes that has been used by ME and NE for years now, with one EV going to the presidential candidate who carries each CD and 2 EVs go to the candidate who wins the state as a whole, then Mitt Romney would have been elected president with between 278-283 EVs even though he lost narrowly in FL and OH, slightly less narrowly in VA, and by 5%-7% in CO, PA, NH, IA, NV and WI (by comparison, the only state that Romney carried by less than 7% was NC).

  10. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t own a gun and I don’t own a business. Obama must hate me. It’s difficult to take anything from me in the short-term.

  11. rdelbov says:

    I might add that the GOP lost between 10-15 Cds by small margins. Yup they will likely hold most of their ground on budget battles. I say most because some issues are fairly obscure and non starters.

  12. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    I decided the whole blog thing wasn’t me. Took too much time away from other things I wanted to do. I commend Dave for keeping his on-going. I’m going to be writing some new stuff after the holidays. Already got some stuff bought for christmas

  13. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    By writing new stuff I mean my free-lance work, not anything blog related

  14. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    damn it’s been dead here. I hope it’s the holidays and not the election results. As I said on Nov 7th, we bounced back from 08′ and we’ll bounce back from 12′

  15. Tim says:

    Author, I have been here for a long time. So has Jul. Bitterlaw has been here, even longer, since the beginning. Tina, MD, lisab, Tim V, and a few others have been around here pretty much since the beginning.

    Every cycle, the traffic drops off dramatically after an election, and then builds back up, leading into the next one. So, this is normal, for this site.

    I hope you stay around. You have added a lot to this site. It would be good to have you as a regular. I need people to throw chainsaws at me. Keeps me sharp. LOL

  16. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    Old Man you need more young folks like me around here. You want me on that wall! You need me on that wall!

  17. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    btw as much as the results sucked for me, the election being over has almost freed me on some ways. I feel like I got more time to get other things done then just look up poll numbers and count the ways I think O sucks as President

  18. Rockefeller Republican says:

    Warner looks strong for NOW… We’re still a year out…Will the AG have a clear path to GOP nod??? Thought the LG Hager was also looking at race??? A competitive primary will diminish our chances – all things being equal…BUT no one should coronate Warner…Besides, turnout will be down and if the GOP works the DC suburbs hard to avoid being blown out there, Cuccinelli or Hager will have a shot – with a moderate conservative message of course.

    The other good news is that McDonnell will be the favorite for Warner’s seat in 14.

  19. rdelbov says:

    AM

    stick around. We got past Carter, Clinton and will surv ive Obama.

  20. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    rdelbov i’m not on the doom and gloom train. it’s always darkest before dawn. Dems found themselves in a very similar situation in 1988. History says we’ll bounce back.

  21. BayernFan says:

    The GOP in congress need to start agitating to amend health care. For starters, they should push to allow catastrophic care policies to satisfy the mandate. This would help people save money and would introduce the camels nose of market reform under the socialist tent. Why can’t the right use the strategy of creeping capitalism?

  22. Leesa Bee says:

    It is not the most dark before dawn. It is darker at 1:13 a.m. As dawn approaches…

  23. Leesa Bee says:

    Author- No gloom annd doom for me. I. Had to watch my mother die from cancer. Obama wants to raise my taxes? Zzzzzzzzz That isn’t even close to what I went through. Bring on 2014.

  24. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    ” Bring on 2014.”

    that’s the spirit! but let me survive Football season first…

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Leesa Bee stole my post. Ban her.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    Over on the island, they are exchanging ideas on survival food. I wish I was kidding.

  27. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    @27 some talk radio shows have been talking up food insurance

  28. jason says:

    I regret to inform that I am still here.

  29. jason says:

    Drudge is giving the secession BS a big headline today.

    More important, however, is Krauthammer’s “WH held affair over Petraeus head in exchange for favorable testimony on Benghazi”

    I would rather see Obama impeached than secede.

  30. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    btw has azguy stopped by yet? he promised me i’d learn something

  31. 777 says:

    Today’s news

    Too many Generals taking orders from their privates.

  32. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Impeachment means President Biden. Noooooooooooo

  33. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    I dont know whats worse, Incompetent Obama or Goofy Biden. hmm…

  34. Apologetic California says:

    Pew’s Kohut

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323894704578113231375465160.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

    Andrew Kohut: Misreading Election 2012
    The GOP might be out of step with some voters, but Mitt Romney was an unusually unpopular party standard-bearer.

  35. Jenny's BLUE POLLS! says:

    Another blue poll! ZZZ!

  36. Jenny's BLUE POLLS! says:

    If Warner runs, he’s going to run for president in 2016 and the GOP are really screwed …

    Nope!

    It will be a woman but you are right, you will be screwed!

    tee hee

  37. W.PA Observer says:

    37- I repeat, go to hell.

  38. BayernFan says:

    I would rather that the GOP “cave” and give Obama whatever he wants vis a vis spending taxes and fiscal policy.

    I’d rather the GOP be cynical about this and be able to blame Obama and the Dems fully for the ensuing economic collapse. They can then pick up the pieces.

    I dont want the GOP attacked for favoring the rich and taking some of the blame for the economy which would result from some sort of muddled agreement that gives Obama 95% of what he and the Dems want anyway.

    Let the Dems write 100% of the policy, and tell the American people that we are going to do things THEIR way so they can learn once and for all to never vote Dems into office again. EVER.

  39. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    EPH is still playing games I see

  40. Jenny's BLUE POLLS! says:

    Remember my 3 predictions?

    1. 320 EV floor!

    2. House will vote for tax increases!

    3. House will vote to raise debt ceiling!

    Go get em in 2014!

    lolzy! :razz:

  41. rdelbov says:

    Not surprised Pelosi is staying on. She is rock solid with the majority of her caucus. House caucus does not care much about winning.

  42. Robbie says:

    One of the worst kept secrets in DC is Mark Warner hates being a Senator. Considering that, it’s no surprise he wants to return to the governor’s office.

    If Warner runs and wins, it’s a certainty he will run for president. He wanted to run in 2008, but was boxed out by the bigber names.

    Having said that, I think Warner completely misreads his popularity with the national public. He’s a boring white guy who would need to motivate blacks and hispanics to win nationally.

    Maybe I’ll be wrong, but I have a hard time seeing Warner as a big national threat.

  43. W.PA Observer says:

    41- I repeat, go to hell.

  44. Apologetic California says:

    39, THE GOP needs the fiscal cliff. It’s the only way to stay relevant. We also get a big deficit reduction at the end and still tax rises for the rich. Have Obama come crawling back.

  45. W.PA Observer says:

    43- He can do the DLC Southerner thing, which could be problematic. But hard seeing how he wins a national Democratic primary.

  46. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    “I would rather that the GOP “cave” and give Obama whatever he wants vis a vis spending taxes and fiscal policy.”

    BayernFan,
    The only problem with this would be in 2014 when the congress-critters go back to their home district. The voters there will rightfully ask, “why did you not FIGHT this administration? You controlled the part of government which controls the purse strings, you should have sat on your hands!”

  47. jason says:

    I agree with Wobbie Troll’s assessment of Warner.

    Yeah, miracles happen.

  48. jason says:

    Hey Rockefeller Troll and Jenny Blue Balls, f–k off!

    Sometimes don’t change, which is nice.

  49. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    Robbie is on to something. I know, I know, hard to believe. But I mentioned this before, the Dems will miss O’s GOTV machine and his ability to inspire low-info voters to turnout in Prez elections. They have to keep that momentum going in 2016 and some boring white southern guy from VA isn’t going to do the trick.

  50. jason says:

    The problem is that the MSM would never allow the ensuing economic collapse to be blamed on Democrats.

    If the GOP caves they are finished. Sure, give them some “revenue increases” on loopholes and minor tax reforms but hold the line on the Bush tax cuts.

  51. Jenny's BLUE POLLS! says:

    After amnesty passes the GOP will suffer unheard of losses in 14!

    The base will be so mad they will stay home!

    You haven’t seen Forward yet! :smile:

  52. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    #50 – why would Obama not tell the DNC he gets to pick the nominee, or they don’t get his GOTV apparatus? He’ll play the long game, wouldn’t he? As long as he can control people with his personality, he will use that power.

  53. Robbie says:

    Until I see proof otherwise, the coalition that elected Obama was an Obama coalition and not a Democrat coalition.

    In 2004, Bush received 11% of the black vote and 44% of the Hispanic vote. Neither was a great number, especially the support from Blacks.

    Still, those numbers show the next Republican nominee has a chance to nearly double his or her support from those two groups when compared to 2012.

    Lots of things can change in four years, but I have a hard time believing a 70 year old woman or a boring white guy (Warner, O’Malley, Cuomo, Biden) can earn such lofty support from minority voters.

  54. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    141.Tim says:
    November 14, 2012 at 5:57 am
    #120:
    He’s a nut.

    Is that explanation, enough?

    -This is about as factually sound as the Social Security and/or Medicare programs are financially sound. Your explanation is as shallow as your opinion that Social Security is a good program long-term for ALL Americans.

  55. Robbie says:

    50.Robbie is on to something. I know, I know, hard to believe. But I mentioned this before, the Dems will miss O’s GOTV machine and his ability to inspire low-info voters to turnout in Prez elections. They have to keep that momentum going in 2016 and some boring white southern guy from VA isn’t going to do the trick.

    Comment by AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less — November 14, 2012 @ 10:44 am

    As it turns out, I was on to something all summer.

  56. Big Ben 4 liberty says:

    I want Warner to run for president only because it will prove that the DEMs are the anti-white people party. Their views on race have been consistent since the 1830s the only difference now is that sometime in the last 50 years their racism was redirected at whites instead of non-whites.

    So Warner would be the Blue Fraud/New Democrat- we wanna still be competitive in Red Sates, great white hope versus whomever makes the politically correct Blue State Marxists panties wet.

    It could very entertaining and informative.

  57. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    As it turns out, I was on to something all summer.

    -Humility is not your thing, is it?

  58. Great Liberal says:

    #52 – I agree!!!!

  59. Robbie says:

    58.As it turns out, I was on to something all summer.

    -Humility is not your thing, is it?

    Comment by NYCmike (Bronxie) — November 14, 2012 @ 10:54 am

    That’s the first comment I’ve made about that since the election and, considering the hate that was directed towards me most of the year, I think I’m entitled to one or two comments like that.

  60. Bitterlaw says:

    To all those who stayed home because Romney was an “unpopular standard bearer”:

    GFY. If you wanted Obama, just admit it. Stop making excuses.

  61. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    Robbie got 1 thing right in this election cycle and suddenly we must bow down to him? LOL same old a-hole to the very end

  62. Robbie says:

    62.Robbie got 1 thing right in this election cycle and suddenly we must bow down to him? LOL same old a-hole to the very end

    Comment by AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less — November 14, 2012 @ 10:56 am

    Wow, you do a lot of reading between the lines. I don’t think anyone needs to bow down to me. Considering some of the stuff that gets written here, I think my comment, the only one I’ve made since the election, is quite modest.

  63. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    turnout dragged Romney down. For 2 Prez elections our turnout has sucked. Before we start making amends w/ certain demographics (which I think we should do) we gotta get our folks to turnout.

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie obviously had insight into the moron vote that we didn’t have.

  65. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – HHR is pit of vipers. People turn on each other all the time. That’s why I love it. Never come here expecting praise or recognition.

  66. Robbie says:

    66.Robbie obviously had insight into the moron vote that we didn’t have.

    Comment by Bitterlaw — November 14, 2012 @ 11:00 am

    I guess it was tough for you to have insight into your own group so I was glad to help.

  67. BayernFan says:

    -Humility is not your thing, is it?

    Comment by NYCmike (Bronxie) — November 14, 2012 @ 10:54 am

    No offense to you or anyone else, but given the grief Robbie has had to endure….

    I’d say he is entitled to rub it in for a while longer.

    btw I called Mourdock dead man walking the day he said his rape pregnancies are God’s will inanity, and I was mocked a bit. So this is my first and only “I told you so”.

    I told you so.

    There. Done.

  68. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    “but given the grief Robbie has had to endure….

    I’d say he is entitled to rub it in for a while longer.”

    yeah your right we should totally ignore his other laughable predictions and claims

    “btw I called Mourdock dead man walking the day he said his rape pregnancies are God’s will inanity, and I was mocked a bit.”

    yeah you and ac1 were right on that one. btw any insight into ac1’s “India Story”?

  69. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – we don’t have to like you. Sorry but we barely like anybody but Walt and Marv.

  70. rdelbov says:

    Robbie was and is a concern troll. No insight into the GOP point of view. Might as well read DNC notes as listen to Robbie or any of the other trolls.

  71. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder who azguy really was.

  72. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    remember Bitter 1948 campaign was fought under a recession oh and we’re gonna have a brokered convention. pepe!

  73. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    @73 me too, I wanna learn that lesson he said he was gonna give me

  74. BayernFan says:

    The hard cold political fact is that a very large majority of the American voting public support the right of a rape victim to abort an ensuing pregnancy.

    Not only that, they also find the thought of forcing a rape victim to carry such a pregnancy to term absolutely ABHORRENT AND IMMORAL.

    How may GOP (male mind you…) Senate candidates have thrown away their races on that issue? Three? Buck, Akin, and Mourdock? All in reddish states, too I might add.

    Enough is enough. No more rape victims should be forced to give birth to rapists’ kids candidates any more. Please.

  75. Bitterlaw says:

    JEB!!!!

  76. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    Robbie,
    You are like Dick Morris, whatever you say is right, or can be explained away. You did not mention anything about Romney’s GOTV system, which reports are, after the election, simply riddled with problems. You never mentioned that the GOTV system had not been tested in real-time.

    As the campaign progressed, my desire to see Romney as President INCREASED, because I believed more and more that he would apply simple, yet tough, rules on the federal government. Something like a 20% cut across the board for all departments, push for the block grants to states of Medicare expenditures, and also a rollback of hiring done for the last 4 years (in conjunction with the department cuts, last in would be let go first, instead of longer-tenured civil servants. This would have gotten rid of Obama’s hires).

    Your ramblings were never tangible things, it was usually a repeat of what you read on Politico or HuffPo.

  77. jason says:

    Wobbie Troll got nothing right.

    He pretends that people got on him because he was critical of Romney’s campaign, but there were others that were also critical and they weren’t called trolls.

    Wobbie was called a troll because he refused to see the inevitable, that Romney was the strongest candidate and would be nominated, and instead of recognizing that he kept on and on about brokered conventions and Jeb Bush.

    Wobbie Trolls is a liar and a fraud. The fact Obama won doesn’t change that. I think Romney ran a pretty decent campaign and did better than any other of the R would have done. In the end, it was very close and probably small details like the hurricane, the MSM defense on Libya and the economy, and the MSM bias in the debates made the difference.

  78. jason says:

    76. I happen to agree that abortion should be allowed for rape victims.

    However, anyone voting for Obama with his disastrous record because of abortion is a mindless moron.

    Nothing on abortion would have changed with Romney as President.

  79. Robbie says:

    Ah yes, I’m a DNC troll. I love that attack, rdelbov. It’s the last refuge of someone who has failed with every other argument. Delbov Curve, anyone?

    And to my good buddy Author, let’s review some of my “laughable” claims.

    1. In late June, I wrote Romney wasn’t being aggressive enough on the trail. I think most now agree Romney squandered the summer months.

    2. In July, I wrote Romney needed to puch back against the Bain attacks and define himself in a positive way before Obama was able to define him in a negative way.

    3. In July, I wrote the two most likely outcomes were a mini 1980 or a repeat of 1948. Well, it seems the 48 model when an unpopular incumbent saddled with a not so great economy and facing a moderate northeast governor was pretty accurate.

    4. I wrote that Romney needed to provide the affirmative case for himself. He couldn’t make it all about Obama. In other words, the election was a choice, not a referedum.

    6. I wrote that Stu Stevens was a liability and the Romney campaign looked hapless and not up to the challenge of a national campaign. Project Orca, anyone?

    Now the one predition everyone thinks I got wrong was a brokered/contested convention. Make no mistake, I badly wanted one, but I’m pretty sure I never predicted one. If I did, I was clearly wrong, but wanting an predicting are two different things.

  80. BayernFan says:

    Something else must have been wrong for Romney to have received less than the votes McCain received.

  81. jason says:

    78. Great “review” on Wobbie Troll.

    The guy never had an original thought, it was all regurgitation of left wing talking points.

  82. jason says:

    ” Project Orca, anyone?”

    I was invited to work on Project Orca. Very interesting concept, and the set-up was very well organized and implemented, everyone participating got calls with instructions, polling place assignments, etc. Evidently the data transmission part did not work as planned.

    The fact the first time it was tried had glitches is not that surprising and does not negate the effort.

  83. jason says:

    “Something else must have been wrong for Romney to have received less than the votes McCain received.”

    Obama lost many more votes from 2008 than McCain did. Millions more.

    What went wrong with his campaign?

  84. Robbie says:

    I just love Jason’s attacks on me because they are generally so worthless. He claims I never acknowledged Romney was the strongest candidate to run in the primary. To the contrary, I said that many times. However, being the strongest in a very weak field was nothing to brag about.

    And yes, I wanted a brokered/contested convention and Jeb Bush because I always felt Romney would lose. He was and is a very good man, but he always lacked the political skills necessary to win a national race. Once again, this election proved nice guys finish last.

  85. SusyQue says:

    YES, Too many Generals taking orders from their privates.

    The Greatest War
    A general rule for battling lust

    The head of secrets had his own
    but just like history has shown
    unbridled passion foils fame
    and brings the mighty down.

    A general rule we’re called to keep
    relates to those with whom we sleep.
    The marriage bed must be preserved
    with sanctity and trust.

    The greatest war we’re called to win
    is one that’s lost time and again
    and all because we fail to fight
    an enemy called lust.

  86. Robbie says:

    Project Orca was a flop. Just read comments from conservative bloggers who participated in it. Even Jen Rubin, the biggest Romney supporter there was, said it was a flop. My goodness, the Romney campaign never beta tested an untried operation before election day.

  87. BayernFan says:

    I think this was like 1916…

    a radical leftist transformist President who polarized the electorate and was barely reelcted. vs. a Northeast establishment more than competent Northeasterner.

    I hope that the GOP can recover enough voters to get things “back to normal” in 2016 as in 1920.

    The next four years arent going to be pretty.

    I would like to see the GOP allow a bit more libertarian stands on things maybe like penalties for non-violent drug offenders and the like. At least the GOP can signal support for self governing efforts by the people of the states who want to liberalize their own drug laws. Same for gay marriage.

    I wouldnt also mind a little retrenchment on foreign entanglements. I just think that Washingtion and the founders were on to something when they warned against them. We are not a nation like others. If we are not willing and able to act like an empire, then we shouldnt. Besides, we dont have the money. If anyone messes with us, just pop em and be done with it. Like the Babary Pirates or Hiroshima. Bust em up and leave. And dont fret killing their civilians either.

  88. Robbie says:

    BayernFan

    I chose 1948 over 1916 because women couldn’t vote in 1916 and the 1948 occured after the Depression when a whole new series of safety nets were introduced.

    Having said that, there’s not much difference between 1948 and 1916. In fact, I thought if Obama won re-election, he was likely to become the modern day Woodrow Wilson.

  89. david says:

    As I predicted on here back in 2010, that Webb would retire and Warner would run for Govenor. I am 50% there….Also, Warner will run for Govenor and then President.

  90. david says:

    #8, I agree….he has Virgninians fooled like Manchin has WV fooled.

  91. david says:

    Serious question. If mark warner wins in 2013, can he appoint his sucessor or does current Republican Govenor Bob McDonnell get to do that?

  92. SusyQue says:

    Busted: Obama’s Fieldworks Illegally Funneled Money to Defeat Allen West

    Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2012/11/busted-obamas-fieldworks-illegally-funneled-money-to-defeat-allen-west/#ixzz2CDVwKc8I

  93. lisab says:

    “I don’t own a gun and I don’t own a business. Obama must hate me. It’s difficult to take anything from me in the short-term.” Bitterlaw

    you have a house and a 401k i bet

  94. lisab says:

    “Sorry but we barely like anybody but Walt and Marv.”

    well … walt wants to steal our bell

  95. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab – I have a house I can afford. After 30 years of diabetes and my family history of cancer, 401k’s and retirement are a theory at best. I put money away so I hope my wife enjoys it. My only request is that she not bring a date to my funeral.

  96. lisab says:

    “My only request is that she not bring a date to my funeral.”

    you want her to go alone?

  97. lisab says:

    ” I have a house I can afford. ”

    yes, but you did not build it

    sooooooooo … you should pay a “little more”

    so obama’s supporters can have what you have

  98. lisab says:

    it is your patriotic duty to buy obama supporters health care, food, housing, a pension, walking around money …

    otherwise … they would have nothing and no way to get money to buy stuff

  99. Bitterlaw says:

    I voted. I now turn my attention to:

    2013 softball
    2014 son gets driver’s license
    2015 daughter might need braces
    2016 son graduates from high school

  100. Apologetic California says:

    Might as well confirm Susan Rice. My lord she’s a screwup and will embarrass the Administration for YEARS. It’ll be so bad that the next SOS will be a white male.

  101. Frank says:

    Friends,

    The Obama stock market crash is continuing.

    Frank

  102. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    I voted. I now turn my attention to:

    2013 softball
    2014 son gets driver’s license
    2015 daughter might need braces
    2016 son graduates from high school

    Comment by Bitterlaw — November 14, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

    2013 Eagles miss the playoffs
    2014 Eagles miss the playoffs
    2015 Eagles miss the playoffs
    2016 Eagles miss the playoffs
    2017 Bitter feels old

  103. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    “Next RNC chair better invest in this tech. Jesus.”

    the current one is too busy making snark remarks on Twitter instead of actually getting people to vote

  104. Apologetic California says:

    Dow down 1,000 points since October.

  105. Bitterlaw says:

    Author – I was in Tampa once. It reminded me of the dead, empty city in the original Planet of the Apes movies. It wasn’t as cool without the apes.

  106. Apologetic California says:

    California’s poverty rate highest in U.S. by new federal measure

    Nearly nine million Californians – almost a quarter of the state’s residents – live in poverty under a newly devised federal standard, making the state’s rate by far the highest in the nation.

    The stunning number will fuel California’s perpetual political debate over the state’s “safety net” of health and welfare services, which have been reduced sharply due to budget deficits. With voter approval of new taxes, advocates for the poor are demanding that some of the benefit cuts be rescinded.

    California’s 23.5 percent poverty rate under the “supplemental poverty measure” (SPM) developed by the Census Bureau is approached only by the 23.2 percent rate in the District of Columbia. The highest SPM rate in any other state is Florida’s 19.5 percent.

    Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/11/californias-poverty-rate-highest-in-us-by-new-federal-measure.html#storylink=cpy

  107. Tim says:

    There’s still around 2 million votes to count in California.

    There. You all now have your irrelevant fact of the day.

  108. Apologetic California says:

    “Two years ago, the economy was in a different situation.” Q3 2010 GDP growth: 2%. Q3 2012: 2%.

  109. Diogenes says:

    California is poor because it has too many people dependent on government.

    I read some dumbass article say that asians are democrats because they dominate UC attendance and see Republicans cutting their school budgets.

    What a bunch of morons. California has one of the highest tax burdens in the union and fails so hard because it directs resources from core public service–like education and infrastructure–towards their public union cronies.

    Obviously with poor education and a permissive attitude towards illegals, you will have a hug poverty program.

  110. Diogenes says:

    huge poverty problem. Stupid auto-correct.

  111. rdelbov says:

    Mercy even after the election the concern troll wants to make HHR all about him. Mercy.

    Obama ultimately won because of two “low tech goodies”. Boots on the ground got people to the polls. Plus his campaign spent hundreds of million on negative ads. GOTV still remains the GOP’s best hope for 2013 or 2014 or 2015 or 2016.

  112. Robbie says:

    The delbov curve!

  113. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    the concern troll needs no praise at all. he got the election winner right? yeah and so did I, and Brandon, and Dave, and bayernfan, and on and on and on. Doesnt change he resorts to racist stereotypes and rather report on bad GOP news then bad Dem news. 1948 recession, brokered convention, jeb!, etc are all still in the Wobbie Tingles record

  114. Pedro Mows my Lawn says:

    Pepe, my boy Pedro needs some assistance. You come highly recommended by Mr. Robbie.

  115. Walt says:

    Jill Kelley in that reddish dress looks SMOKING hot. (sorry SusyQue, it had to be said)
    ************************************
    That is all I dropped by to say.
    *************************************
    And to tell you that I have removed 300 pounds of paperwork from my house yesterday and will do another 300 pounds today that I am working on and am 2/3 of the way there already.

    And also to say that I miss WVU being in the Big East where we were a far bigger fish than in the Big 12. It will be a long year.

    See you later. :)

  116. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    “Jill Kelley in that reddish dress looks SMOKING hot. (sorry SusyQue, it had to be said)”

    i’d hit it

  117. GF says:

    Walt! Stick around! We need your humor around here.

  118. BayernFan says:

    So should the GOP force the fiscal cliff and get blamed for a middle income tax hike and economic collapse?

    What are the GOP’s options here?

    What should Boehner and McConnell do?

  119. jack says:

    “There’s still around 2 million votes to count in California.”

    Are you sure?

    I see CA as 100% complete, on Politico.

    Obama 6,493,924
    Romney 4,202,127

  120. bio mom says:

    Another wonderful stock market day! The Obama economy chugging along.

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt! Stick around! We need your humor around here.

    Comment by GF

    Thanks. That hurt.

  122. Cory says:

    NBC has California as 81% counted…
    They have a lot of other states at less than 100% as well (example, Arizona, 85%).

    Both candidates have seen their vote total click up every day since the election, and Romney is now within 800K votes of what McCain got – who knows where he’ll end up, but I wouldn’t bet against Romney passing McCain’s total.

  123. rdelbov says:

    Walt best wishes!!!

  124. jack says:

    125:

    Most states are done 100%, if you check the Politico site.

    Some of the news organizations stop updating their totals, so may show outdated numbers.

  125. jack says:

    According to Politico, most states are 100% done. About half a dozen show 99.8, 99.9%. Only Washington state is showing a large chunk missing (89.8% done).

  126. Bitterlaw says:

    Getting the final vote totals for the Presidential Election is like waiting to determine whether a drowning victim was recovered 27 feet under water or 30 feet under water. It doesn’t change the outcome but it is interesting. Discuss.

  127. Cory says:

    NBC is definitely keeping their numbers updated, in fact Politico is a little bit behind NBC in terms of updating the total vote count for both candidates.

    They do seem to starkly disagree about how much is left to count, though.

  128. Apologetic California says:

    Pop. vote as of today

    Obama 62,973,491
    Romney 59,355,278

    O short 6.5 million from 2008, only 600K separate Mitt from McCain.

    House pop vote

    Dem 56,347,647
    GOP 56,141,680

    Dem share is just 200K above GOP, only 50.09 of the vote. Basically their lead is so miniscule, it’s a margin less than a third the population of a congressional district.

  129. Apologetic California says:

    @Redistrict, scroll down, updates his spreadsheet by county reporting and not state. It’s faster and more accurate count.

  130. jason says:

    So Obama’s margin in the U.S. is the same as his margin in CA.

  131. Apologetic California says:

    Libtards are using Pennsylvania as an egregious example of gerrymandering. Can’t really blame the GOP when you see eye-popping margins like Chaka Fattah. With 301,000 votes, 90% in his district, his district is basically providing the margin of vote there. Wasted. stupid. votes.

    In comparison, the Republican with the most votes is Steve Daines’ At-Large seat in Montana and that’s only 252,000 votes. The runners up are Cassidy in LA and Shchock in IL at 243K a piece. But Dems just way overperform in just one district in one state typically and that’s large enough to give an edge in urbanized states.

  132. jason says:

    Bayern seems to think if the GOP was only more like the Dems they could win.

    Wrong.

    If people want Dem ideas that is who they will vote for, not Dem light.

  133. Apologetic California says:

    Been seeing this a lot:
    Nate Cohn
    ?@electionate
    Not sure whether I’m going to write a post on this, but I’ll just say that the evidence for a surge in Latino turnout is… incomplete

  134. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    If we go over the fiscal cliff, Republicans get blamed for raising taxes. If the economy then goes to pot, the Republicans will get blamed for that as well.
    Is this about right? Because if it is, BayernFan may be right about giving Obama what he wants. Maybe the House should simply say to Obama and Reid, give us your budget for the next 2 years, we’ll raise the debt ceiling with you, and let’s see how the economy does. Or is that just silly and not well thought out?

  135. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    guys as of today, O has only increased his support in 1 state compared to 2008, guess which it is?

  136. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    Florida?

  137. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    CXL

  138. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    @139 no FL was the closest state. O won it w/ under a 1% margin

  139. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    ok I might as well reveal it…ALASKA

  140. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    Do you mean his TOTAL vote for a certain state, or the % by which he won a state?

  141. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    @143 I mean his share of the electorate there

  142. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    total vote I’d have to see

  143. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    That has to be Sarah’s fault, right?

  144. Phil says:

    I’d say Mass or New York.

  145. AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less says:

    @146 idk, we forget but AK was actually looking like a swing state in 08 until the Palin pick. O was polling so good there he actually wanted to go there. after Palin was picked it reverted back to it’s red status.

  146. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    They do get that dividend most years from the oil trust, maybe they figure they can get more if they vote for the party of hand-outs.

  147. jason says:

    ” So should the GOP force the fiscal cliff and get blamed for a middle income tax hike and economic collapse?”

    No, let the Democrats force the fiscal cliff.

    Lay out what you are willing to negotiate and let the Democrats reject it.

    The GOP House was not elected to cave to the Democrats, you read it here first.

  148. mtvphil says:

    Still waiting for OH SoS to certify results for OH. We will still be to the right of the country as a whole, though not by as much as we usually are. I find myself still a bit numb from the whole thing, but we are picking up the pieces and getting ready for out year and mid-term elections in 2013 & 2014. 2013 should be a good opportunity to move up some young talent into city council, mayoral and county commissioner elections. We have a strong bench here in OH, so it will be a good year for knocking off weak Dems at the local level.

  149. jason says:

    Raise the ceiling if its offset by matching spending cuts.

    Otherwise no deal.

  150. jason says:

    We learned from Bush 1 that the Democrats and the MSM don’t give Rs credit for compromise. Remember how they used “read my lips no new taxes” against him.

    The same would happen here. Obama would get credit, Republicans will be vilified for backing down.

  151. Robbie says:

    116.the concern troll needs no praise at all. he got the election winner right? yeah and so did I, and Brandon, and Dave, and bayernfan, and on and on and on. Doesnt change he resorts to racist stereotypes and rather report on bad GOP news then bad Dem news. 1948 recession, brokered convention, jeb!, etc are all still in the Wobbie Tingles record

    Comment by AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less — November 14, 2012 @ 2:41 pm

    Just for the benefit of HHR newbies, a concern troll is someone who’s not a wide eyed optimist. Concern trolls are weary of believing gut feelings rather than numbers. In fact, I was labeled a concern troll in 2010 because I suggested in the days leading up to that election Sharron Angle and Ken Buck might, not would, just might lose.

    And yes Author, I mentioned 1948 because I saw it as analog year for what might take place in this election. I’m sorry mentioning a year which featured an unpopular incumbent, an economy that slowed all year into a recession in November, and a less than stellar moderate governor from the Northeast bothered you.

  152. jason says:

    Ak was closer than I thought. Obama got like 45% of the vote.

  153. Phil says:

    Actually he got 41. Libertarians and others got 4 or 5 percent.

  154. jason says:

    ” In fact, I was labeled a concern troll in 2010 because I suggested in the days leading up to that election Sharron Angle and Ken Buck might, not would, just might lose.”

    Wobbie Troll still lying his ass off.

    I talked myself blue in the face against Angle and Buck here and though people disagreed with me nobody called me a troll.

    A concern troll does exactly what Wobbie Troll does.

    “Our” candidate Romney sure is terrible. We need a brokered convention. We need to fire his staff. We need to be like Democrats.”

    I know because I play the exact same role at DKos. Except I am less obvious than Wobbie, having survived there for years.

  155. jason says:

    I wonder what Wobbie Troll is still doing here. He got his Messiah.

    I guess when you are a troll for over a year its hard to give up the roll.

  156. rdelbov says:

    No a concern troll, like Robbie, is someone who does not articulate views of his own but rather posts every depressing article that he can find at liberal sites. A concern troll pretends to be a conservative or republican but never articulates any views in favor of conservatism or the republican party.

    Concern trolls like to suggest that the GOP can lose every race but never articulates similar views about the democrats losing races. So a concern troll would focus on how weak Angle or COD or Buck is but never mention the weaknesses of Dayton or Lincoln or Quinn or Feingold.

    You can always tell a concern troll, like Robbie, because they only focus on GOP candidates but never find a single bad thing to say about D candidates.

  157. jason says:

    156. 41 is ok, I must of looked at early returns.

  158. Robbie says:

    Poor, poor, Jason. Still bringing the hate even though he was all wrong about how the 2012 race would play out. Remember folks, he said the referendum strategy was right. The race needed to be all about Obama. Too bad the Romney campaign disagreed with him starting in September. Romney also didn’t need to define himself positively before Obama did negatively, right Jason?

    And by the way Jason, I didn’t say you called me a troll for suggesting Angle and Buck might lose, but you definitely called me a troll plenty in 2010. I’ll cut you some slack on that though. You call so many people a troll it’s prbably hard to keep track of when and who you’ve called that.

  159. jason says:

    159. True, Wobbie Troll never had one negative comment on Obama. It was always negative about Romney, the same spin as you got at MSNBC.

    Maybe instead of Wobbie Troll we should call him Tingles.

  160. jason says:

    My point was that if Romney made the election a referendum on Obama he would win. If it was about Romney he would lose.

    I said this over and over. And I was right. The MSM and the Democrats (and the Wobbies) made it about Romney’s dog, Romney’s wealth, Ann Romney’s horse, etc.

    IF it had been a referendum on Obama he would have lost. Big.

  161. Robbie says:

    The delbov curve! Getting it wrong since 2008.

    And yes dumpster curve, I do articulate my own thoughts. Everything I wrote here since June was my own. I don’t visit Kos or DU or even the Huffandpuff Post. I call it like I see it and because I was saying things that weren’t pro-Romney, the true believers got upset.

    My own thoughts have been since 2007 that Romney would be a mediocre presidential nominee. That Romney lived up to my low expectations was frustrating to watch. I had hopes he could win and had he aggressively countered the Bain attacks in the summer and defined himself positively, he could well have won. Too bad Stu Stevens was in his ear.

  162. Brandon says:

    According to @redistrict, Obama did slightly better in four states: AK, MS, LA, and NJ.

    MS and LA are a bit of a surprise.

    None of those states have certified their results as official yet, so I guess they are subject to change.

  163. jason says:

    ” but you definitely called me a troll plenty in 2010.”

    Of course I did. You ARE a troll.

    My point was nobody called ME a troll because I was negative on Angle and Buck.

  164. bio mom says:

    165HE HAD NO MONEY THEN!!

  165. jason says:

    Wobbie Troll lives in an alternate troll universe with an alternate reality.

    I love this garbage:

    ” I had hopes he could win and had he aggressively countered the Bain attacks in the summer and defined himself positively, he could well have won. ”

    You had hopes that the election could be made about Romney, not Obama.

  166. Robbie says:

    163.159. True, Wobbie Troll never had one negative comment on Obama. It was always negative about Romney, the same spin as you got at MSNBC.

    Maybe instead of Wobbie Troll we should call him Tingles.

    Comment by jason — November 14, 2012 @ 5:58 pm

    As I said many times during the summer when this stupid argument was made, I never cared one bit what Obama said or did. At several points this year, the voting public was ready to completely tune him out. Romney just couldn’t capitalize on it.

    The race was always, thanks to the poor economy, Romney’s to win or lose. Had he and Stu Stevens been more aggressive in July and August, it would have been Romney with the lead coming out of the conventions.

  167. Robbie says:

    168.165HE HAD NO MONEY THEN!!

    Comment by bio mom — November 14, 2012 @ 6:04 pm

    In the 2008 Republican primary, Romney loaned his campaign $40 million. In 2012, Romney chose not loan is campaign a penny.

    Romney’s worth about $500 million or so, but he chose not to loan his campaign any money in August when his campaign was broke. That makes no sense unless.

  168. Robbie says:

    You had hopes that the election could be made about Romney, not Obama.

    Comment by jason — November 14, 2012 @ 6:05 pm

    If you say that to yourself about million more times, it still won’t be true.

  169. jason says:

    There were lots of people negative on Romney’s chances here. MD comes to mind. Author.

    Being negative on Romney’s chances is not the reason Wobbie is called a troll. It was the incessant bias and hate he exhibited towards Romney for over a year and the silly advocating of a brokered convention and Jeb Bush long after it was clear Romney was the nominee.

    Romney was not the favorite of many of us. But we got on board because it was either him or Obama, there was a much bigger picture. Wobbie Troll was never able to make the transition.

  170. jason says:

    The reason Romney did not fund his own campaign was because the MSM would say see he is trying to buy it.

    Even a moron like Wobbie should be able to see that.

  171. jason says:

    Wobbie Troll has hidden talents.

    He can repeat verbatim the DKos and MSNBC talking points without reading them.

    Hmmmm, come to think of it so can I……

  172. jason says:

    It would be great if Petraeus skewers Obama. Not holding my breath.

  173. Robbie says:

    Yep, I had a major bias against Romney going back to 2007. He was a crappy candidate then despite all of the advantages he had at that time.

    In 2012, he burned through $100 million just to beat a group of fools better suited for a clown show. That was the best indication the base didn’t want him and it showed on election day when so many white voters just didn’t show.

    I was negative all summer about Romney because he ceded the camapign bully pulpit to Obama. He went quiet, he failed to define himself, and he allowed the Bain attcks to go unanswered.

    Sorry, but I didn’t feel the need to throw in phoney positive comments just to assuage the HHR community. He didn’t do a good job during the summer and I pointed it out. I didn’t feel obliged to ignore what I saw staring me in the face.

  174. Emerica says:

    Worth watching

  175. Robbie says:

    174.The reason Romney did not fund his own campaign was because the MSM would say see he is trying to buy it.

    Even a moron like Wobbie should be able to see that.

    Comment by jason — November 14, 2012 @ 6:12 pm

    The media hated him anyway. He was going to get poor treatment no matter what he did or didn’t do. He could have easily loaned his campaign $10 million in August. Any crap he might have gotten would have faded away after his convention speech. Seriously, who was talking about his disasterous trip to Europe after his convention? No one.

  176. jason says:

    Barone says Obama sacrificed House and state legislatures….some interesting facts in this article.

    “As a result, in the 113th Congress, as compared with the 111th, there will be three fewer Democrats from Michigan, six fewer from Ohio, seven fewer from Pennsylvania and four fewer from North Carolina.

    Democratic losses were greatest in the South, which gained seven seats from reapportionment. There will be 22 fewer Southern Democrats and 29 more Southern Republicans in the House next year than there were in 2009.

    Another way to look at it: 123 of 201 House Democrats will be from the Northeast, the West Coast, Hawaii and Illinois. Only 23 are from the Midwest outside Illinois, and only 42 are from the South.”

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/barone-to-win-obama-sacrifices-house-state-legislatures/article/2513362?custom_click=rss&utm_campaign=Weekly+Standard+Story+Box&utm_source=weeklystandard.com&utm_medium=referral#.UKQpyIU2W6Y

  177. jason says:

    I would rather read Wobbie Troll’s lies than listen to Ron Paul speeches, that’s how bad they are.

  178. jason says:

    Oh btw, remember when Wobbie Troll said black turnout was going to equal 2008, even though all evidence was against it?

    Wobbie Troll was wrong on that too.

  179. Uncle Salty says:

    I be still here.

    This is primarily a poll blog that I have followed since 2004. So I imagine it gets dry in the off year.

    –us

  180. Uncle Salty says:

    p.s.

    I’ll be in and out.

    p.p.s.

    Yes, I am expecting Paula B. and Jill K. for a menage a trois at a hotel near Crystal City.

  181. Emerica says:

    Congressman Ron Paul’s Farewell Speech to Congress

    Jill Kelley’s ‘Cancer Charity’ run out of her house was a scam

    Kelley is millions of dollars in debt while her twin sister filed for bankruptcy. What was Petreaus, General Allen, an FBI agent, Senators Kerry and Whitehouse, plus numerous other general officers, congressmen, Democratic and Republican party officials doing hanging around this woman?
    Strap yourselves in, folks. We haven’t seen the bottom of this yet.

  182. Mr.Vito says:

    Ron Paul is leaving? I never noticed he was there…

  183. mtvphil says:

    Gas prices up 10% since election, DIJA down over 5%…color me shocked.,

  184. jack says:

    Has there been a worse Republican nominee than Romney?

  185. hellbelly says:

    Congrats to Cy Young award winner R. A. Dickey….the ONLY reason watch the Mets this year.

  186. Pulplover says:

    #191

    Alf Landon
    Herbert Hoover
    William Howard Taft
    Barry Goldwater
    Wendell Willkie
    John McCain

  187. Apologetic California says:

    191, McCain?

  188. Emerica says:

    GOP breaking rank in Boner’s congress?

    Is it game over for Grover Norquist?

    Norquist faces an unprecedented rear-guard attack as the congressional GOP fractures on the tax issue. Last year, there were 238 members of the House and 41 members of the Senate who had signed Norquist’s pledge. This year, there are just 217 in the House — one shy from the 218 needed for a majority — and 39 in the Senate, an all-time low. As the Hill’s Russell Berman reports, while Norquist claims his army is 219 strong in the House, two of those members have since disavowed Norquist’s pledge.
    Democrats are hoping to exploit GOP divisions to push for tax increases on the wealthy during the lame duck session of Congress. “More and more people on the hill are realizing that Norquist is a has-been, and the outcome of the fiscal cliff will probably consign him to the footnote status he’s always deserved,” a senior Democratic aide told Salon.

  189. Apologetic California says:

    In summary, if you lost you’re terrible.

  190. jason says:

    Romney was the best candidate we had. That would be true if he got 48, 51, 46 or 53% of the vote.

  191. jason says:

    ” Congressman Ron Paul’s Farewell Speech to Congress ”

    See? There is some good news!!!

  192. jason says:

    So Bunu is against the tax pledge?

    Who knew?

  193. Emerica says:

    I’m a huge fan of Grover’s work actually.

    John Boehner on the other hand I do not trust a bit.

  194. Groveling Statist Serf says:

    “Supporters of all government edicts use humanitarian arguments to justify them.

    Humanitarian arguments are always used to justify government mandates related to the economy, monetary policy, foreign policy, and personal liberty. This is on purpose to make it more difficult to challenge. But, initiating violence for humanitarian reasons is still violence.

    Good intentions are no excuse and are just as harmful as when people use force with bad intentions. The results are always negative.

    The immoral use of force is the source of man’s political problems. Sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations, and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world.

    Even when the desired goals are well-intentioned—or especially when well-intentioned—the results are dismal. The good results sought never materialize.

    The new problems created require even more government force as a solution. The net result is institutionalizing government initiated violence and morally justifying it on humanitarian grounds.

    This is the same fundamental reason our government uses force for invading other countries at will, central economic planning at home, and the regulation of personal liberty and habits of our citizens.”

    http://www.dailypaul.com/263111/ron-pauls-farewell-address-full-text

    Perhaps we should consistently back liberty and non-aggression as the correct MORAL principles on which to govern ourselves and our country instead of worrying if our “team” can “win” a meaningless “victory” that only endorses further authortrianism and violence

  195. Emerica says:

    Grover is not a party guy. He’s just assume kick half of them out of congress.

    He was a supporter of Ron Paul, and he opposes the war on terror (probably because he’s married to a muslim Palestinian)

  196. bio mom says:

    171

    He and Ann did give the maximum allowed. And why should he have to give millions in addition to his own sacrifice for public service. The rules should not be different for him.

  197. Tim says:

    #198:
    LOL

  198. Brandon says:

    Enough about Mitt. He’s just a footnote in history now. Time to look forward.

  199. Brandon says:

    Oh and it’s pretty clear Jindal is running based on his comments the past few days.

  200. Mr.Vito says:

    “Time to look forward.”

    FORWARD!

  201. Brandon says:

    Damn it. I’m caught as an Obama plant now.

  202. Tim says:

    I knew it! Brandon’s a troll! Brandon’s a troll!

  203. Tim says:

    I saw you at the secret meeting, Brandon. That’s how I know……

  204. Brandon says:

    Damn! I didn’t think anyone saw me. It was the only time I went! Now I just get my DNC talking points e-mailed to me…

  205. Bitterlaw says:

    Time to get back to long threads:

    Bigger d-bag – Martin Luther or RObert E. Lee?

    Most supporters of secession think that it will bring back slavery.

    Why Tim V. will burn in Hell.

    What made Bitter this odd?

    Reading Bunu’s posts or suffering from Malaria? Which is a better way to spend three months?

  206. lisab says:

    “you will have a hug poverty program.” Diogenes

    obama does have a hug poverty program! :)

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    Other topic:

    What’s the point of a flat-chested whore?

    Polaris or P.T. Barnum – Bigger showman.

  208. Stef says:

    “Romney was the best candidate we had. That would be true if he got 48, 51, 46 or 53% of the vote.”

    The best national candidates didn’t run because they couldn’t win the nomination in the current climate.

    The GOP used to be a big tent party where deeply conservative candidates could win the nomination by claiming to be compassionate moderates and be in good shape nationally.

    Now with the GOP purity brigade, everyone who isn’t a firebreather is a RINO or concern troll and moderates have to run as uber conservatives to stand a chance and everyone has a tough road nationally because they are committed to loser hard line positions on abortion, immigration, etc.

  209. Tim says:

    I have a topic:

    “If at first you don’t secede, cry, cry again”

    Fact, or fiction?

  210. Tim says:

    Before someone asks—————yes, I have been drinking.

  211. W.PA Observer says:

    216- I seem to recall the “Jesusland” map passed around by liberals after their 2004 defeat.

  212. Bitterlaw says:

    I think talk of secession is embarassing. Man up, bitches.

  213. Brandon says:

    The secession talk is obviously for the deadenders. If Rick Perry won’t even endorse it anymore, you know it’s gotta be way out there.

  214. Bitterlaw says:

    If Texas leaves, it can take millions of the illegals living there out of the US.

  215. Bitterlaw says:

    This place is deader than Ron Paul’s political career.

  216. Bitterlaw says:

    Unbelievable. The name Jen na is still blocked by the filter.

  217. Brandon says:

    Whatever happened to JT? I hope the “dyke” Tammy Baldwin getting elected didn’t cause him to harm himself.

  218. Bitterlaw says:

    JT was killed by the Black Panthers. Azguy was killed in the riots by “those people.”

  219. Bitterlaw says:

    I miss Mr. Vito. He did a great DrJay impersonation.

  220. America says:

    Ron Paul, if the phones not ringing, you’ll know it’s us.

  221. Clinton's Cigar says:

    Bitter – was 207 a fake sock, or the real deal?

  222. Bitterlaw says:

    I know Mr. Vito is always with us. Actually, it’s creepy.

  223. Clinton's Cigar says:

    It’s almost like there are two of him….

  224. Walt says:

    HAH!!!
    ***************************************
    Achieved my goal of getting another 300 pounds of accumlated mf-ing legislative paperwork out of our home today.

    Running total is now to 600 pounds–for you that are counting.

    Goal is 1000 pounds by end of Saturday.
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    I alread have 167 pounds more ready to jump start the 300 pound goal for tomorrow. So even though I have other meetings, etc. on Thursday afternoon/evening I should still reach my 300 total for tomorrow.

    I hope the rearranging of the weight of all the paper from my home to the recycling center does not cause my county to tip over.
    ***************************************
    Told our landfill director that the surplus papers from Charleston will NOT be making the 320 mile trip to Berkeley Co. to boost his tonnage totals back here at home. What paperwork that currently lies in Charleston, stays in Charleston.

  225. Walt says:

    BREAKING–

    from newly formed WTF (“We Totally Find ‘em”, a Private Detective agency)

    Washington Nationals Coach Davey Johnson is ACTUALLY Gen. Petraeus.
    ***************************************
    Take a look at the photo that PROVES the Johnson and Petraeus are one and the same. Look at the smile and facial expression in the photo on “Davey’s” face when reporters asked him what he thought of Jill Kelley.

    Petraeus…Johnson.

    Petraeus even reportedly asked Jill Kelley if she wanted to see his ‘Johnson’…
    ***************************************
    http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/team/coach_staff_bio.jsp?c_id=was&coachorstaffid=116576

  226. Walt says:

    Doing another drive by.
    OK, I am out of here.
    ***************************
    Beep, beep… :)

  227. Walt says:

    And one more nugget…

    WASHINGTON TIMES:
    [Chi-comms helps NK commies with nuke program–another foreign policy disaster that will bite Obammer/U.S.]
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    “…At a minimum, it would be astounding that China would sell North Korea a large and sophisticated TEL for its new missile. Not only does this sale violate two recent United Nations Security Council resolutions barring the sale of missile technology to North Korea, but as stated in April by House Strategic Force Subcommittee Chairman Michael Turner, it “undermines the Administration’s entire policy of investing China with the responsibility of getting tough on North Korea.” Could it be that China’s great diplomatic investment since 2004 in leading the Six Party Talks, ostensibly for rolling back Pyongyang’s nuclear missile development, was merely a deception to enable this very threat?

    And what of the U.S. reaction, given that these missiles are primarily aimed at Americans? Once North Korea tests its new missiles, it can be assured that they, and/or their technology, will be sold to Iran, which then could reach all of Europe from defended bases in Central Iran. Based on early reports and officials’ leaks to Japan’s Asahi Shimbun in June, the administration response has been at least as confused and dangerous as its reaction [to Benghazi].”
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    Read more: FISHER: Obama’s deadly inaction on North Korean nuclear missiles – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/11/obamas-deadly-inaction-on-north-korean-nuclear-mis/#ixzz2CGaO3bD7
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

  228. Michael says:

    BTW..
    Bobcats are 4-3 now!

  229. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Bobcats can not finish worse than 4-78.

  230. Tim says:

    This place is even deader than usual after an election……..

  231. AuH2ORepublican says:

    The House Dem caucus whose diversity Pelosi crows so much about will have exactly 0 white women from the 180+ congressional districts located north of Tampa, south of Philadelphia and east of Denver.

  232. Tim says:

    I see. And, How many black Republican women from those areas will be in the GOP caucus?

  233. Bitterlaw says:

    This racial back and forth depresses me. I did not agree with everything that Dr. King did or said but his “I have a Dream” speech is one of the greatest ever delivered. Too bad nobody – black, white or other – ever lives up to it.

  234. Bitterlaw says:

    Even MFG is quiet. Too quiet.

  235. AuH2ORepublican says:

    #239, Tim, it is members of your party, not the GOP, who look at the drubbing that they took in House races and claim the their caucus is better now because it’s so “diverse.”