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Hillary Leads Rubio and Bush in FL

Public Policy Polling Has released more numbers from their poll in Florida and it shows how damaged the Republican brand currently is in that Hillary manages to lead two Florida GOP favorites, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush in a 2016 Presidential contest.

PRESIDENT – FLORIDA (PPP)
Hillary (D) 49%
Jeb Bush (R) 44%

Hillary (D) 50%
Marco Rubio (R) 46%

In the primary race, Rubio edges out Bush in the hometown match up. The Democratic field lines up with pretty much what we see in every other state PPP has polled.

PRESIDENT – FLORIDA – GOP PRIMARY (PPP)
Marco Rubio 31%
Jeb Bush 26%
Mike Huckabee 11%
Chris Christie 7%
Bobby Jindal 5%
Rand Paul 5%
Paul Ryan 5%
Susana Martinez 2%
Rick Perry 2%

PRESIDENT – FLORIDA – DEM PRIMARY w/o Hillary/Biden (PPP)
Andrew Cuomo 22%
Elizabeth Warren 15%
Deval Patrick 5%
Martin O’Malley 4%
Kirsten Gillibrand 3%
Mark Warner 2%
Brian Schweitzer 1%

PRESIDENT – FLORIDA – DEM PRIMARY (PPP)
Hillary 65%
Joe Biden 15%
Andrew Cuomo 4%
Elizabeth Warren 4%
Mark Warner 1%
Deval Patrick 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 0%
Martin O’Malley 0%
Brian Schweitzer 0%

This whole poll was done January 11-13 among 601 General Election voters, 436 Republican primary votes and 409 Democratic primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 1:26 pm
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120 Responses to “Hillary Leads Rubio and Bush in FL”

  1. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    First–and still non-kidnapped.

  2. BIll H says:

    It rally seems to me that everything is really in the long run worthless unless we can get foot into the old media. They may be declining but they still control the dialogue.
    gop leaders are just going to have to organize Republican bankers to finance same to buy out media properties. We just cant keep waiting for some billinare white knight to show up. If you get the finance angle right you can find any number of poeple who would carry the ball. We could create 5-6 Rupert Mudochs instead of just relying on one. Espcially one who will be succeded by trust fund liberals when his already 80+ years are over. With out media there is simply no way to repair the brand and it is all just a waste of time. Until then maybe we should ust start taxing the upper 1% and hard. AFter all they stopped voting Republican when we lowered their taxes.

  3. Diogenes says:

    Jeb hated Crist and loved Rubio. I think there isn’t a chance both enters. They will give each other the heads up.

  4. michael corleone says:

    Bill H

    Bingo. And the media is more powerful than ever – just because their revenues are declining does not mean their influence is. Their influence is growing due to the internet.

    The GOP should be singularly focused on buying media. Yesterday, the CA GOP called me for a donation and I told him off — i said unless you plan on purchasing a Hollywood studio or a news network or something of that ilk, you will not get another dime from me.

  5. Giuliani leads everybody.
    McCain leads everybody.

    and other dumb polls taken 4 years before election.

  6. DW says:

    according to drudge, another house was broken into, and guns stolen, and the house was on the list published by that newspaper. Just once, I would like to see justice prevail and it just happened to be that the first violent crime done by the guy who stole that gun would be to shoot the idiot editor who chose to run that list and put everyone in danger.

  7. Piers Morgan says:

    “would be to shoot the idiot editor who chose to run that list and put everyone in danger.”

    How dare you!! How dare you!!

  8. BIll H says:

    michael corleone I am glad someone else agrees with me. I really expected to be boiled in oil for saying we ought to tax the rich because of this but everytime I post it I find others going right on. We are in this fix because of rich lib’s and feckless duplicitous rich pubbies who dont know how or dont care about winning. Attitudes need to change. We need media and that takes upper class people and if they dont do it they should pay for it.

  9. Tim says:

    Some of you people absolutely live in the Twilight Zone.

  10. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim is right. There is no media bias. I don’t know why you guys lie about it. The non-stop stories about Fast & Furious and the editorials by the New York Times and Washington Post drove Eric Holder to resign. I still don’t know how Obama won after 2 years of constanst stories on MSNBC about the jobless recovery and the unemployment rate never dropping below 7.5%

  11. DW says:

    10 – not to mention the media drumbeat over and over about homelessness in America, poverty in America, and big city crime over the last four years.

  12. 1935 Democrat says:

    I am not living in the Twilight Zone. The Democrat Party today is exactly the same as it was in 1935.

    Oh, and I just arrived here from 1936 to post this after getting out of my time machine…what year is it and what’s going on? What term is FDR now in?

  13. 1935 Democrat says:

    oh I just noticed that the date is shown after each post. It’s 2013? That’s incredible! It means all the New Deal policies will have had their full effect and then some! Tell me about today’s USA, it must be like the second garden of Eden by now! Everyone is no doubt rich, happy, and healthy.

    Did John Wayne ever get another chance to star in top films or was his career ruined by being stuck in ‘B’ Westerns the last five years?

  14. SoHope (the one precenter) says:

    We heard more stories about bush firing some lawyers than Obama sending thousands of guns to Mexican cartels who killed thousands including americans

  15. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    I am so glad that YoMama has destroyed Al-Quida terrorist groups so that they are not capable of, say taking over a gas production facility in Algeria and killing hostages.

  16. michael corleone says:

    Bill H,

    I think everyone needs to be taxed more, not just the rich. The SOBs that re-elected the Big SOB need to pay up and realize that they lack virtue for supporting a gov’t policy of “tax the other guy.” I was so happy to see them complaining about their payroll tax increase.

  17. 1935 Democrat says:

    what is Al-Quida? And people are still be taxed? Having just arrived from 1936 in my time machine, I would have thought that by now the government would have taken over everything and people wouldn’t have anything left now to be taxed?

  18. Joey Bagodonuts says:

    Yo, Michael Corleone–

    You got somethin’ to say ’bout where Hoffa is buried?

    I got nuttin’.

  19. Bitterlaw says:

    1935 Democrat – Keep an eye on a sports broadcaster and actor named Reagan. There will be a President named Kennedy someday.

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    Also – buy gold and GE stock.

  21. 1935 Democrat says:

    Just having arrived from 1936, I thought I would check to see how many times the Red Sox won the World Series as they seem to have hit a dry spell since selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees back in ’19. WOW, I am reading through the records and just arrived at 1986. Did you guys know they blew a chance to win it with a two run lead, two outs, and nobody on base?? Can you believe a guy let the ball roll right between his legs.

    I would have expected baseball skills to improve throughout the years, not get worse.

  22. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    Who in the world pays PPP (or anyone else for that matter) to poll who people in 2013 in some state or another favor for president in 2016?

    Time and time again the persons who are ultilately chosen by the parties are NOT the frontrunners 3 or 4 years out.

  23. 1935 Democrat says:

    19 – An IRISH CATHOLIC president! LOL very funny, that will be the day. Might was well tell me that someday there will be a niqqer president. Very funny…I will tell this one to a good friend of mine, Bob C. Byrd…he keeps telling me how he wants to someday open his own chapter of the KKK. He will get a kick out of this.

  24. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    1935 Democrat,

    Invest in tatoo parlors and body piercing companies. Also Obama phones.

    Stay away from investing in electric cars, solar energy start ups and common sense.

  25. 1935 Democrat says:

    body piercing? How could there be a market for companies who pierce people? Is this part of the penal system in 2013?

  26. 1935 Democrat says:

    Having just arrived from the year 1936, I am curious how everyone is traveling around these days. I would expect by now that everyone is getting rides in government subsidized air-ships. In fact just next year I am planning to catch a ride in the Hindenburg.

  27. Rockefeller Republican says:

    It’s Christie/Martinez ’16 if the GOP want to win…The rest are essentially pretenders which makes this poll silly… Why is poor Jeb even included??!! His brother killed off any future chances for the Bushes w/ his big-spending “compassionate” conservatism. W. made Obama possible.

    Re WV Senate, Shelley Moore Capito will make a great senator!

    Christie/Martinez ’16!

  28. 1935 Democrat says:

    27 – The Rockefellers are still around in 2013?

  29. jason says:

    The idea that Republicans should make an effort to invest in a media source that is at least independent instead of leaving the entire MSM in the hands of the Marxists is a good one.

    The MSM coverage of the 2012 race was so partisan it was sickening. How Romney was even competitive to the end was a miracle.

  30. lisab says:

    “Is your former mossad chief like lisabs military professor that said iwo was a waste?”

    you mean the professor who is a decorated marine

    with two tours in iraq,

    who taught at west point

    and

    was awarded several awards by the marines for best military research on iwo jima?

  31. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    “The MSM coverage of the 2012 race was so partisan it was sickening. How Romney was even competitive to the end was a miracle.”

    -We can agree on some things. Tim will fight you on this one.

  32. lisab says:

    i have a compromise on the israel thing that should make everyone, including rand paul happy

    we will continue to give israel lots of military aid …

    but …

    we will NOT require them to ask permission from us to do anything

    which seems to be their big problem with giving israel aid … they brand paul supporters think it ties israel’s hands …

  33. lisab says:

    so again

    lots of aid to israel

    ]but we do not require them to ask permission if they want to use their weapons

    problem solved :)

  34. lisab says:

    unless of course they have a different hidden reason for not giving israel aid

  35. Bitterlaw says:

    1935 Democrat – We allow women to have opinions now. We’re still not sure if it is a good idea.

  36. michael corleone says:

    Jason –

    This is the fundamental problem that the idiots at the RNC do not understand — the enemy is the media, the Dems are merely the opposition party reflecting the media’s view.

    Conservatives love to talk about the nation’s founding, but inexplicably, so few high-profile conservatives realize that the founders could not even think about Revolution until they first took over the printing press. Propaganda for lack of a better word was critical to our success as a nation. See Common Sense, Sam Adams efforts, etc.

    When we have equal access to shape culture through the media, we will win because our ideas are better. But when we are unable to air our ideas, we can’t win. The media will always find the next distraction — does anyone think if Akin or Mourdoch did not run last cycle, that would have kept the media from pouncing on some other story to destroy the R brand?

  37. BayernFan says:

    Republicans need to somewhat coalesce around a oouple big reformist ideas, kinda like they did on Kemp Roth and increased defense spending in the late 70s.

    For example, big time tax reform that finds room for a VAT that replaces the income tax would be interesting. The GOP should also push to allow catastrophic health insurance policies (super high deductible, low low premiums) to satisfy the mandate.

    Everywhere possible, the GOP should push to allow more choice on all levels to Americans… especially young healthy ones.

    That means on health care, taxes, school vouchers, civil unions, etc etc etc.

    I would also like to see the GOP adopt a TR like aversion to bigness… whether big government, big labor, or big business.

    I really wish that Romney had called for the breakup of the big banks in this country. It would have put him in the WH, imo.

    All of the above would restore the GOP as the party of ideas, and would be a nice healthy dose of common sense populist conswervatism of the Reagan Kemp mode with some old style Goldwaterist libertariansism in there. Of course it would ruffle a bunch of feathers especially amongst the establishment… which would be a good thing.

  38. lisab says:

    attention test

    how many times do the players in WHITE pass the basketball?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo

  39. BayernFan says:

    So why does the guy say Iwo Jima was unnecessary? I always thought it was a necessary island to allow for more bombing of the Jap mainland.

  40. SoHope (the one precenter) says:

    teddy rosevelt was a progressive. There is nothing wrong with big business

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    SoHope – It is always difficult to use terms as if they never change definitions. If you read about children dying in industrial accidents and read The Jungle 100 years ago, you might be a progressive, too. There is no way that Teddy or any politician alive in 1901 could have imagined the world of 2013.

  42. 1935 Democrat says:

    35 – we allow women to have opinions in 1935 too, so long as they keep their opinions in the kitchen.

  43. BayernFan says:

    btw, I am all for collateral damage (dead civilians including women, children, babies, and old people) in the war on terror.

    Not a big fan of surgical attacks. The way I see it, if we kill a bunch of civilians where al Queda say is hanging out, those civilians are going to get pretty tired of AQ hanging around them. Make their civilians pay, too, just like the Germans and the Japs did. Our civlians should not be the only ones on the table.

  44. BayernFan says:

    40..

    Breaking up the trusts was a good thing.

    Breaking up Ma Bell, which the Reagaan Justice Department engineered, was a good thing.

    Sometimes even business gets too big and amasses too much power. We cant have five big banks so that one failure sends us to TARP. We dont need to.

    Breaking them up is good policy, and good politics to boot… for whichever party does it. Could’ve been Romney.

  45. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    lisab says:
    January 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm
    unless of course they have a different hidden reason for not giving israel aid

    -Well, if you ignore the reasons that the person gives, and assume that the only reasons he may have are nefarious ones……

  46. SoHope (the one precenter) says:

    I thing the government has no right to break trusts. prosecute crimes by businesses, keep consumers safe from contamiation, but punishing businesses for being too sucessful…i never really got that one.

  47. SoHope (the one precenter) says:

    I am ok with disagreeing with reagan’s justice dept. He isn’t infaliible

  48. 1935 Democrat says:

    wow – having just arrived from 1936 in my time machine, and looking around at what’s popular now, I just cannot believe that the Three Stooges turned out to be such a hit! Sure they are popular in 1936, but I would have thought that by 2013 they would have been long forgotten.

  49. lisab says:

    “So why does the guy say Iwo Jima was unnecessary? I always thought it was a necessary island to allow for more bombing of the Jap mainland.”

    well the prevailing opinion by many is that iwo jima was necessary as a back up landing base for damaged bombers returning from japan

    however, that was not a stated reason for attacking iwo jima prior to the attack. the stated reason it was attacked was two-fold

    first, it had a small fighter base on it

    and

    second, it had a radar installation on it.

    both the fighter base and the radar base were destroyed prior to the invasion.

    also, the okinowa airbases, which were far bigger and closer to japan than iwo jima’s were captured about a month after iwo jima’s airfield became operational — so damaged bombers could have landed on okinowa a month later

    finally, of all the damaged bombers who landed on okinowa, relatively few were so damaged they

    a.) had to land because of damage

    b.) were in that one month period between when iwo was captured and when okinowa’s airbases were captured

    so, the author concludes the marines should have by-passed iwo

    and perhaps just gone to okinowa

    letting the soldiers on iwo jima die on the vine

  50. 26, Blacks can now vote and their voting for Democrats.

  51. lisab says:

    “Well, if you ignore the reasons that the person gives,”

    well you said rand paul does not want israel to have to ask permission to attack someone …

    so i take it you think it would be fine to give israel lots of military aid

    and NOT require them to ask permission?

  52. lisab says:

    “GUNS STOLEN FROM ANOTHER HOME LISTED ON NEWSPAPER WEBSITE…”

    what if someone breaks in to one of these homes

    and gets shot in the head?

  53. BayernFan says:

    Another thing GOP candidates need to do…

    get ready for the “How old is the earth” question.

    The answer is NOT 6000 years. lol

    That would be about 4 billion years too short.

  54. 1935 Democrat says:

    50 – WHAT? HAHAHA! That would bo so cool if only it could be true! Republicans freed blacks. What hope could I have that future generations of blacks would EVER vote Democrat?! Lets be honest, part of my democrat party platform here in 1936 is to keep blacks in their place…at the back of the bus. No, you must be mistaken, if its true that blacks are voting in mass, then surely they must be voting Republican, not Democrat, I mean what, are they stupid?

  55. lisab says:

    “The answer is NOT 6000 years. lol

    That would be about 4 billion years too short.”

    nor is the answer … “i do not know or we do not know”

    trying to avoid saying 6000 years

    nor

    is trying to imply that a range which includes 6000 years old a valid alternative

  56. NYCmike (Bronxie) says:

    lisab,

    Since I started reading about the Middle East when Moshe Dayan (eye-patch guy, correct?)was around, I have always been amazed at the restraint the nation of Israel has shown towards her enemies. I agree with Ed Koch, when he used to talk about the kids slinging rocks, sho ot the bas tards. So, as it stands right now, they have their aid, and take the gloves off.

    When it comes to Rand Paul, he has never said no aid for Israel while all other countries still get their aid. He wants to limit ALL foreign aid. The reasons he gave in terms of Israeli aid (that I read) had to do with 1) US economic woes, 2) past statements by certain Israeli leaders, 3) Israel’s ability to have a free hand. Now, if you already think he is an anti-semite, you will not accept those reasons. I, personally, do NOT think he is an anti-semite, or anti-Israel, so I will choose to accept them.

    Last, I think any relationship with a foreign country should always be questioned. I would defer back to the Founding Fathers, who tried to avoid any long-lasting foreign entanglements. To give you an example, although it worked for a while, NATO. While it was effective in containing the Soviet Union, it also led to the European countries relying more and more on our defense spending, instead of investing their own money in their armed forces. Instead, they increased all of their social services spending, and let the military rot.

  57. lisab says:

    so all the rand paul supporters agree then?

    we will give israel huge amounts of military aid

    and

    we just won’t make israel ask permission to use their military?

  58. lisab says:

    “The reasons he gave in terms of Israeli aid (that I read) had to do with 1) US economic woes, 2) past statements by certain Israeli leaders, 3) Israel’s ability to have a free hand.”

    well … the compromise on the table

    would

    a.) allow israel a free hand

    b.) recognizes that it is CHEAPER both in american lives and money to give israel military aid than to involve ourselves in the middle east

    c.) would be in keeping with former military leaders of israel, because we would agree to give israel a free hand and not require them to ask permission

  59. SoHope (the one precenter) says:

    Somebody change the subject from this Israel issue….I just can’t stand agreeing with lisab

  60. 1935 Democrat says:

    Israel? …I am confused…are you talking about the ancient kingdom ruled by Solomon?

  61. lisab says:

    gee … i guess the rand paul supporters have other reasons besides not wanting to tie israel’s hands

  62. lisab says:

    i wonder what they could be?

  63. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    Man in D.C. is charging that Subway is coming up short in claiming their foot long sub is really 12 inches long.

    [Many women shake head in agreement that number of inches claimed is often inflated.]

  64. 1935 Democrat says:

    I going to now get back into my time machine and head back to the year 1936 where I belong. But I am taking along with me a 2012 published sports statistics book…might do a little betting along the way.

    Too bad for Republicans that I will use my winnings to support Democrat candidates.

  65. Corey says:

    The new Head Coach of the Chicago Bears is a Jewish lawyer.

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey – the Bears coach is going to go for a 4 point play at some time.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    Oops. No 4 point play.

  68. lisab says:

    “The new Head Coach of the Chicago Bears is a Jewish lawyer.”

    well you do not want the new head coach’s hands to be tied,

    so you should stop watching the bears on tv

    and you certainly should not buy tickets to the games or support them in any way

  69. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    1. Roosevelt did the right thing in breaking up the trusts. 4 or 5 guys controlled everything and price fixed. There was no competition. This is basically Mexico today. Breaking them up helped to set us up for the next century.

    2. Christie will never be POTUS. Ever.

    3. Jeb Bush will never be POTUS. Ever.

    4. Any bank that went to the gov well (not Wells since they were literally forced to take money), should be broken up systematically. If they needed my money to survive in the short run, then they don’t deserve to survive in the long run.

    5. Israel is our only real ally in the mid-east. Support them 1000%.

    6. Agree that conservatives need to take control of the media or at least increase our presence. Notice how they wanted to dismantle the one, fairly small portion of the media, talk radio, that is controlled by conservative voices? Where was the Fairness Doctrine for everything else?

    7. Hillary may not be breathing by 2016.

    8. The R’s could still find a way to screw it up.

    9. Obama can do no wrong – ever. I guess we have to live with that.

    10. Women having the right to give their opinions was the ignition that will ultimately lead to the end of the world.

  70. lisab says:

    MD,

    the other countries in the middle east have tens of billions of oil money to spend on weapon systems

    therefore it is important to cut off all military aid to israel …

    so their hands are not tied

    and they won’t have to ask permission …

    ummmmm …

    to defend themselves …

    ummmm …

    with sticks

  71. Michael (Christie for Governor) says:

    MD, Jordan is an ally of Israel. Therefore Jordan is our other middle east ally

  72. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    Yea, Jordan will turn on them in the end. They all will.

  73. lisab says:

    jordan is NOT an ally of israel

    they have a peace treaty

    not the same thing

  74. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    I have a new rule that I don’t engage with people who Santorum would have beaten Obama.

  75. Michael (Christie for Governor) says:

    MD I don’t like santorum. Oh BTW let Joepa rip

  76. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    who “think”. Even a minor interaction with them makes my brain hurt.

  77. Michael (Christie for Governor) says:

    @78 lisab however Jordan always seems to reach out and help Israel more than the rest lisab. Why

  78. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    Sorry Michael! I confused your handle with someone else who posted earlier.

  79. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    Michael – talk to Al Pacino. Hard to see how that casting works.

  80. Michael (Christie for Governor) says:

    MD that’s okay. I was with romney. I want Christie, rubio, or a woman now

  81. Michael (Christie for Governor) says:

    I will probably are something in the paper about this movie soon

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    MD – I am pissed. How did Lurie let a CFL coach get away? Cutler will be unstoppable now.

  83. 55, Homosexuals can marry, and they are voting for Democrats. The most popular politician is a fat corpulent rotund Catholic from Jersey Shore. Detroit has lost half its population. And a Kenyan is president, a Democrat.

  84. Bitterlaw says:

    Hello?

  85. W. PA Observer says:

    Dave- It’s PPP ( A Democrat agenda polling firm) polling an election four years from now- let’s not be too despondent over that. I’m actually surprised Rubio polls as well against Clinton as he does.

    Notice that they never poll a Dem primary without Hillary but with Biden- they always included both or remove both.

    Also note that they poll no other Dem candidate but Clinton.

  86. lisab says:

    how did ppp do in the 2012 election?

  87. W. PA Observer says:

    89- How does PPP’s polling from three and a half years (or two years) in the future compare to their polling closer to the election?

  88. Bitterlaw says:

    Polling? Just wait for Polaris to return. He will explain why they are all wrong.

  89. W. PA Observer says:

    91- Did I say that? No. I said I don’t trust them polling for 2016 already, and have said I take them (mostly) seriously closer to the election.

  90. Michael (Thompson for Congressman) says:

    @92 I don’t trust them polling now because half the idiots they poll, if they are really calling people, are picking most of the people at random.

    I have pink eye, as i was coming out of the clinic I witnessed one of the trailers in the trailer park a block away burst into flames.

  91. SoHope (the one precenter) says:

    I saw zero dark thirty…plesantly suprised

    I read the comments on it and I knew it would be better than I expected.

    Liberals were calling it propoganda for torture and the murder of inocent muslims…illegal wars…and even a healthy dose of trutherism.

    When I watched it I wasn’t disappointed.

    ****Spoiler alert****

    Waterboarding and inhanced interigation tactic gave the original tip that evenually led to OBL.

    The only time Obama was on the screen was when he said he was banning inhanced interigation tech.

    The main character wrote on her bosses window how many days each day for when they learned of the location of the hideout until the finally go the approval from Obama to act. (was over 100 days)

    Supervisor was told he had to prove it was OBL. He replied we lost the ability to do that when we lost the “detainee program” and then talked about terrorist that were “lawyered up”

    During a meeting with advisors they basically came to a concensus that they were about 60% sure that it was OBL but that Bush has a better case for Iraqi WMD.

  92. jason says:

    Has someone broken the news to the poor bastard 1935 Democrat that the 2013 Democrats are basically Maoists and Marxists? That a 2013 Democrat in the face of Pearl Harbor would have formed a committee to study the issue and write a report recommending a carbon neutral response to the Japanese?

    I would but I don’t have the stomach for it..

  93. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    The pink eye of Michael has given him strange powers that cause trailers to burst into flames when he looks at them.

    Michael, can you see Iran, Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc. etc. from your house?

    if not how about a house across the streetr from 1599 Penn. Ave.?

  94. jason says:

    ” how did ppp do in the 2012 election?”

    They were in the top tier for their final polling, as usual the real garbage is put out earlier in an attempt to influence the campaign.

    No one will ever remember the polls showing Santorum, Bachmann, Trump, Cain, Paul, etc. winning the R nomination, or the polls showing Obama winning NC, VA, FL, OH, by big margins.

    And this sort of crap Sept 25, 2012:

    (NV-SEN) PPP: Obama up 9 in NV (52-43 LVs), Berkley up 4 (48-44 LVs)

    An absolutely fantastic result via a PPP poll conducted for the League of Conservation Voters. Here’s a snippet from Jon Ralston:

    President Obama is stretching his lead to 9 percentage points in Nevada and Rep. Shelley Berkley is up 4 over Sen. Dean Heller in a new Public Policy Polling survey taken for the League of Conservation Voters.

    The survey, which you can see below and was taken last week of 501 likley voters, shows Obama up 52-43 and Berkley up 48-44. Those numbers are even greater for the president than other public polls and Berkley’s lead will come as a surprise considering other results.

  95. jason says:

    I want to comment on MD’s comments:

    Roosevelt did the right thing in breaking up the trusts. 4 or 5 guys controlled everything and price fixed. There was no competition. This is basically Mexico today. Breaking them up helped to set us up for the next century.

    Ok. But in 2013, I have nothing against big business or big banks.

    2. Christie will never be POTUS. Ever.

    Remains to be seen. I would not discount the possibility so quickly. And I would rather he be the nominee than an idiot like Rand Paul.

    3. Jeb Bush will never be POTUS. Ever.

    I agree. Jeb’s time has passed.

    4. Any bank that went to the gov well (not Wells since they were literally forced to take money), should be broken up systematically. If they needed my money to survive in the short run, then they don’t deserve to survive in the long run.

    Fair enough.

    5. Israel is our only real ally in the mid-east. Support them 1000%.

    I agree 1000%.

    6. Agree that conservatives need to take control of the media or at least increase our presence. Notice how they wanted to dismantle the one, fairly small portion of the media, talk radio, that is controlled by conservative voices? Where was the Fairness Doctrine for everything else?

    Amen.

    7. Hillary may not be breathing by 2016.

    Her age will be an issue if she runs. But her health care is better than Obamacare.

    8. The R’s could still find a way to screw it up.

    Sure they could.

    9. Obama can do no wrong – ever. I guess we have to live with that.

    Sad but true.

    10. Women having the right to give their opinions was the ignition that will ultimately lead to the end of the world.

    God created Earth. And he rested. God created Man. And he rested. God created Woman. And nobody has rested ever since.

  96. Bitterlaw says:

    The History Channel has an excllent 4 part series on the Presidents. It is pretty fair and tries to point out good and bad points of each President. Well, except for Millar Filmore, Franklin Pierce,and James Buchanan. It is really tough to find anything good out of those South-sucking p*ssies.

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    Whomever invented breasts is awesome. God. Ba’al. The Big Bang. I bow before it.

  98. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    MD and Bitter,

    Have you all thought of this?
    Could be a sweet deal…
    *************************************

    Outsourced: Employee Sends Own Job To China; Surfs Web : NPR
    http://www.npr.org

    What began as a company’s suspicion that its infrastructure was being hacked turned into a case of a worker outsourcing his own job to a Chinese consulting firm, according to reports that cite an investigation by Verizon’s

  99. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – I think MD is looking to outsource his Goose drinking. You should apply.

  100. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxzxxxxxxxxxx

  101. lisab says:

    if you were forced to vote … with a gun at your head …

    and your only to choices were

    rand paul

    and

    the easter bunny

    who would you vote for?

  102. GF says:

    Hope you all had a wonderful day. As for me, I got home early from work, made significant progress on my current piece of music (college auditions were yesterday – awaiting the board’s decision on my acceptance), had chicken liver salad with balsamic vinaigrette and a nice Zin, and, when I went for a stroll down Sea Lane to the beach, finally met my neighbours Willard and Ann Romney (they live around the corner on Dunemere). All politics aside (and I mean that), they are truly very nice, cordial and absolutely lovely people; I wish more of my neighbours were like them instead of the major league a**holes who seem to live in the Barber Tract. And, yes, that is an Audi Q7 he’s driving nowadays (no envy on my part; Audi’s were never my thing).

    Sleep well, HHR; another day looms tomorrow.

  103. Bitterlaw says:

    GF is going to music school? Well, the navy always does look for artistic people:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b1hf_village-people-in-the-navy-version_music

  104. Stef says:

    “And this sort of crap Sept 25, 2012:

    (NV-SEN) PPP: Obama up 9 in NV (52-43 LVs)”

    I’m not really sure how bad that is. Obama won NV by 6.7% (taking 52%) and this was before he got creamed in the first debate. Yes it’s on the high side but we saw far worse outliers in that cycle.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Nevada

    The same week there was a poll in NV showing Obama +11. I havent heard of We Ask America so maybe they are a Dkos type outfit though.

  105. lisab says:

    Bitterlaw,

    speaking of musicians

    q: what do you call a drummer in a three-piece suit?

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    a: “the defendant”

  106. Captain Tuttle says:

    I’m glad to see that Te’o knows who I am.

  107. Col. Flagg says:

    I will find you, Tuttle.

  108. MD (IP - Akin and Mourdock Will Win!) says:

    Captain Tuttle was a hero. I will never forget him.

  109. Tim says:

    #106:
    The Easter Bunny. And, you wouldn’t even have to worry about the gun.

  110. Tim says:

    #99:
    Pierce and Buchanan were two of the very worst we ever had. Perhaps only Harding was worse.

    I’ll give Fillmore a break. He did install a bathtub in the White House.

  111. Tim says:

    Amazing how I can write a 10-word post, and it produces a whole thread of responses. Never fails! LOL

  112. Tim says:

    Boy, this place is dead, today.

  113. Michael (Christie for Governor) says:

    Good morning

  114. Bayernfan says:

    Agnew led Percy in early 1973