Romney, Granhom Lead In MI

We have a new poll from Harper Polling in Michigan that they did for Conservative Intel that shows Mitt Romney’s brother Scott leading the Republican field in a primary for the US Senate while Jennifer Granholm dominates the Democratic field.

Scott Romney 26%
Mike Rogers 17%
Justin Amash 11%
Terri Lynn Land 9%

Jennifer Granholm 59%
Gary Peters 13%
Dan Kildee 6%


Jennifer Granholm (D) 42%
Mike Rogers (R) 40%

Jennifer Granholm (D) 43%
Scott Romney (R) 40%

Jennifer Granholm (D) 43%
Terri Lynn Land (R) 40%

Jennifer Granholm (D) 43%
Justin Amash (R) 34%

Mike Rogers (R) 23%
Gary Peters (D) 20%

Scott Romney (R) 29%
Gary Peters (D) 26%

Terri Lynn Land (R) 29%
Gary Peters (D) 21%

Gary Peters (D) 24%
Justin Amash (R) 19%

This poll was done March 9-10 among 1744 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 7:59 pm
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129 Responses to “Romney, Granhom Lead In MI”

  1. Bitterlaw says:

    First again.

  2. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    Mpost people call people from WV redneck hillbillies. I am now going to refer to myself as a proud Appalachian-American.
    And apply for some sort of federal grant and other benefits due to my minority, hyphenated status.

  3. Bitterlaw says:

    Is it really lisab or is it Dave F’ing with us? Discuss.

  4. Tim says:

    Hey Bitterlaw, did you know that Bronxie has the hots for Rand Paul? LOL

  5. Bitterlaw says:

    If anti-poverty programs work, why do we stil need them after 47 years? Discuss.

  6. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim – NYC is a man unto himself. You remain my favorite Democrat. Of course, that bar is pretty low. I just don’t understand Democrats but they don’t understand me, either. It is a great country.

  7. Tim says:

    Jesus said, “The poor you always have with you”

    So, my answer is, there will always be work to be done, Bitterlaw. But, these programs have made a difference in a lot of lives. A lot of hungry people have been fed.

    Or, should we do away with the School Lunch Program, for instance?

    Know who the father of that was?

    Richard Russell.

  8. Tim says:

    Oh, I understand you, Bitterlaw. And, just between us two, you have a great Party. Just promise me you’ll fight like the devil to keep it away from the nuts. And, I promise to do the same, with mine.

  9. Tim says:

    I’m just playing my fun games with Bronxie, Bitterlaw.

    I’m not sure he understands that, though. LOL

  10. Tim says:

    I think he might still be posting comebackers on the previous thread. Oops….

  11. Tim says:

    Oh, well. Let him vent. It’s good for him.

  12. Bitterlaw says:

    Tim – In Philadelphia, School Principals are evaluated every year. The principals who enroll the highest numbers of students in the school breakfast and lunch programs are ranked higher than their counterparts with better performance. This leads to principals in wealthier areas of the city like Chestnut Hill and Center City aiming for 100% participation. Does that make sense to you?

  13. Tim says:

    On that happy note, I am out.

    Glad to know that lisab is back, and doing good.

    Goodnight, folks.

  14. Tim says:

    Honestly, no. Many programs have flaws that need fixing. And, it’s okay to point them out.

    But, the hungry kids? They still have to eat. Right?

  15. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought that was why they get food stamps. The government has to cook and serve it now, too?

  16. W. PA Observer says:

    14- To further rip Tim’s nonsense on richest/poorest state- he does realize that those metrics do not factor for cost of living/ taxes, right?

    35,000 a year goes a hell of a lot further in Mississippi than in Connecticut, right?

    Actually, adjusted for cost of living, etc- the poorest state in the union is Maine. Also- despite having some similarities, high-tax high spending blue state California has far worse schools than Texas. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  17. ???? says:


  18. Michael says:

    Scott Romney announced today he won’t run so….

  19. Corey says:

    From the last thread, as I did not know this one existed-

    The fact that there are pockets of profound poverty in states like Mississippi, which as a whole vote heavily Republican, are directly related to the failures of federal Great Society programs, envisioned and engineered by Democrats, to improve the social and economic lives of traditionally disadvantaged groups of people, specifically African-Americans.

    Wealthy places in Connecticut are overwhelmingly white and have had great amounts of wealth for many generations. Those people have not required or been given much in the way of government assistance.

    The example that Tim gives is very much evidence against the policies and party he is trying to advocate.

  20. NYCmike-Paulbot (Bronxie) says:

    -10 states with highest PERCENTAGE of people on food stamps – looks to me to be about 1/2 red state, 1/2 blue state, maybe 6-4, but remember, this is not total cost, it is percentage of the population using it. Can Tim please tell me why that matters. Oh, by the way, in 2011, over $5 billion was given out in food stamps in NY. Why is it a good thing to have this money being re-distributed, and why does Tim think it this proves his policies are better?

  21. Michael says:

    It will be interesting to see how Tim responds to these facts

  22. W. PA Observer says:

    19- Also the disproportionate levels of poverty among Afr-Amers, which in Southern states (ala Mississippi, SC, LA, etc) where they make up 25% to 30% of the population drags down the overall average compared to lily-white New Hampshire/Vermont. It’s best to compare counties to counties really and comparative wealth to cost of living. Horry County, SC (Myrtle Beach) I’d stack up for quality of life against anywhere in CT.

  23. Corey says:

    It’s very much a logical fallacy to try to associate the political behavior of the state as a whole with economic or social conditions of the state as a whole.

    Realistically, the people in these red states that are the poorest vote Democrat and have had their lives most influenced by Democrat policies.

    Mississippi may be the poorest state in the Union and may lead in such bad things as infant mortality, etc, but it is also the most heavily African-American state per capita and that heavily influences those statistics.

    Perhaps one can claim that these unfortunate conditions are due to racism and discrimination, but others, such as myself would say that they are evidence that the “War on Poverty”, despite its good intentions, failed, and have harmed poor people, especially African-Americans in many ways.

    We should all agree that they, and all Americans who may have it tough deserve far better.

  24. W. PA Observer says:

    Further- even as college goes- is there any substantive difference for an in-state student’s education (for what their bachelor’s counts for in the job market) between an Alabama kid going to ‘Bama, a Mississippi kid going to Ole’ Miss, and U Conn? Factor more the lower tuition in the former two Southern state schools for their residents — and the lower tax rates, and a family sending their son/daughter to Ole Miss or ‘Bama is probably getting a much better deal from their state than UConn kids.

  25. W. PA Observer says:

    23- Totally agree, parts of the Delta look like a third-world country, but then again, so do parts of the Bronx, or (to keep pounding CT) – parts of New Haven are a very bad place to be- within site of Yale University. Frankly, Northeastern States could be called out for economic/social hypocrisy at a far greater level than their Southern counterparts – considering their levels of de fact segregation.

  26. Michael says:

    Finally the Bobcats rout, and I mean ROUT someone.

    In Charlotte the Bobcats have just routed the Celtics 100-76

  27. Corey says:

    There needs to be an immediate investigation into the Celtics potentially throwing that game for the benefit of gamblers.

    I would put nothing past Kevin Garnett.

  28. AuthorLMendez says:

    The President just admitted he doesn’t care about balancing the budget. What a great party huh?

  29. Michael says:

    @27 no joke for some reason the bobcats cast a spell over him. In the last eight games the bobcats have played against the celtics Garnett has underplayed tremendously allowing for the Bobcats to win.

    The bobcats biggest lead was in fact 26
    The celtics was 4 and they never lead in the second half.

  30. Michael says:

    @28 yeah I read that, I wonder what will come next

  31. AuthorLMendez says:

    This guy is an absolute and utter joke. I don’t give a crap if he’s good at winning elections. He just admitted he doesn’t care about balancing the budget. It makes me more sure of my 2 votes against the dope.

  32. Michael says:

    @31 well, author all I can say is wow. He is an absolute hypocrite

  33. AuthorLMendez says:

    @32 he’s always been a hypocrite. the man may eb able to win elections but he’s proven himself to be a pathetic executive. When you openly admit you don’t give a damn about balancing the budget it’s no wonder your approval rating has taken such a hit lately. I was so angry when I saw the comment that I threw a bag of popcorn at the tv. All I can say is that I will tell my kids with pride I never voted for this man.

  34. Corey says:

    Who cleaned up the popcorn?

  35. AuthorLMendez says:

    @34 the dog

  36. Michael says:

    @33 pretty bad when ou waste popcorn.

    Even in NY state the approval ratings have plummeted.

    Was 68-31
    Now 57-38

    Even deep blue states are looking at him differently.

    Maybe Nan Hayworth should run for her former house seat

  37. W. PA Observer says:

    36- There are 2-3, possibly 4 pick-up-able seats in NY state- NY-1 (eastern Long Island- Hamptons) Hayworth’s old seat, the seat up in the hump of upstate in Plattsburgh that the Dem Owens has held onto by a couple points every time- and the Syracuse seat.

  38. Proud Appalachian-American says:

    Where my damn money at?

  39. AuthorLMendez says:

    @38 did you ask your dealer?

  40. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    If Bloomberg had any cajones he would next go after and ban tatoos and piercing.

    And plumbers crack, too.

    And people who wear pants with the waist down hapfway to their knees.

  41. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    Farewell Ewald-Heinrich von Kleist, he was the last surviving member of the plot to kill Hitler

  42. Bitterlaw says:

    41 – That will brighten Bunu’s day. Afer losing Chavez, he was prety depressed. The death of somebody who tried to kill one of his heroes will cheer him up.

  43. AuthorLMendez says:

    i’m stunned Bitter didn’t touch my popcorn comment

  44. Michael says:

    So Jul is running for mayor of emmaus? Good luck, you will not a dime from me

  45. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry, Author.

    “Damn. That sucks. Don’t waste popcorn.”


    I still could not care less about following Obama’s approval ratings. I’m not sure it matters even in 2014. Mt districts aren’t competitive anymore. Holding the House or gaining in the House is not enough to stop Obama. Pissing away chances in the Senate in 2010 and 2012 was devastating. If Obama’s approval hits 0%, He still has the White House and Dems have the Senate.

  46. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    Which is more weird:

    All the pomp and circumstances and money spend on the royal family in England?


    All the pomp and circumstances and money spent by the Vatican in choosing a new pope?

  47. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul is mad at the Mayor for holding the same views as the person he voted for in the AG race.

  48. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – I love pomp and circumstance. I like a fine chalice and stained glass windows. Toss in some marble and incense and it is a religious party.

  49. AuthorLMendez says:

    Bitter it’s not about his approval rating, it’s about him openly admitting on tape he doesn’t care about balancing the budget. The throw popcorn at his image reaction came solely from that. We now have Democrats admitting they don;t care about fiscal sanity. Amazing. But hey party of the people according to Tim right?

  50. AuthorLMendez says:

    best moment of the conclave was when the doors were shut to start the voting. the guy who closed the door looked like a badass doing it.

  51. MD says:

    Bitter – see the news on Jul?

  52. Michael says:

    @47 well that’s stupid, because the mayor should also have the same views of the democrat Jul voted for for Congress

  53. Michael says:

    @51 can you post a link?

  54. MD says:

    Author – one day the bond market will impose austerity . That is what happened in Europe. It hasn’t happened here yet for 2 reasons:

    1. We are the reserve currency for the world.
    2. The size of our credit market makes it the only feasible currency to use for large deals globally .

    If those conditions change we are screwed.

  55. AuthorLMendez says:

    MD are you referring to his run for mayor?

  56. MD says:

    Michael – was referring to your post.

  57. Michael says:

    @55 he might be referring to a link

  58. MD says:

    Yes Author. My prophecy (bitter knows) is one step closer . Think 4 horsemen of the apocalypse.

  59. Michael says:

    @58 do you think he has a chance? Jul?

  60. MD says:

    Yea, he would have a chance.

  61. Michael says:

    Will jul also rally his other pals he had run with him for school board, run for the council?

  62. AuthorLMendez says:

    @59 considering Jul himself said he didn’t have a chance i’d say no

    PS – MC’s comment the other day that people here didn’t care if I existed was destroyed in the last thread. Was gone for a couple hours and people brought me up. Once again that simple-minded fool puts his foot in his mouth. Oh and for the record NYC GFY about the calling people trolls comment. I already apologized to Pulp and explained myself. The reason people have gotten some ire with you as of late is because of your constant antagonistic attitude about anything anyone says here. Though I will give you props for being consistent in not being afraid to call out Tim on his BS.

  63. AuthorLMendez says:

    Headed to bed now. Might not be around in here tommorow so my regards.

  64. Michael says:

    Author there is no need to attack NYCMIKE, sure he is illogical in some (most) of his sentences. But that doesn’t mean we have to make fun of him for it!

  65. AuthorLMendez says:

    oh and MD run for my open seat in November just to mess with Bitter’s head.

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul will either be identified by his dental records in a burned out bunker OR be governor of Pennsylvania. There are no other paths for him.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    MD – 5 free agent signings and a hot traffic reporter:

  68. Michael says:

    @66 you know I cannot decide a decision like that bitter.

  69. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s not your choice. It is Jul’s choice.

  70. Michael says:

    @69 yeah, I guess what I mean is what I feel would be the best. Advising perhaps

  71. W. PA Observer says:

    So apparently George P. Bush (Jeb’s son- bilingual Hispanic Afghanistan vet) has entered the race for Texas Land Commissioner (that’s a major statewide office there). Good for him.

  72. EML says:

    But, the hungry kids? They still have to eat. Right?

  73. Tim says:

    Apparently, you won’t.

  74. Tim says:

    Yes, we do………

  75. Tim says:

    Who was the last Republican President who balanced the Budget? We care more about doing it than you do.

    You know, since we actually have done it, and all.

  76. EML says:

    Kudos, Corey, for succinctly destroying Tim the Dim’s ridiculous arguments.

    I still find Tim’s “Won’t somebody think of the children” moment to be particularly hilarious, considering he was on here yesterday vehemently denying that liberal arguments rely on emotion. Why do you think the majority of women are in the Democratic Party? They act on emotion, not on thought.

    And Tim’s idea, like most liberal ideas, is short-sighted and doesn’t bother to examine the long term implications. Liberals see (or most of the time, make up) a problem for them to solve, and the solution invariably is bigger government and more redistribution of wealth. Tim doesn’t bother to consider that by providing lunches to school kids (through redistribution of wealth) instead of forcing parents to work harder and smarter to make more money, government is creating the next generation of lazy, entitled, government-dependent citizens. Why work hard and contribute to society when you can just take everything from government?

  77. EML says:

    Liberals will never run out of problems that government needs to fix. They will always make something up.

  78. MD says:

    Clinton was forced into Tim . You know that. Further, it was the revenue from the bubble that did it. Wasn’t sustainable. A pox on all houses though. It would be nice to see the POTUS submit a budget that addresses reality

  79. EML says:

    Who was the last Republican President who balanced the Budget? We care more about doing it than you do.
    LOL, DUMBASS. Yeah, it had nothing to do with the first Republican Congress in 40 years.

  80. MD says:

    Liberalism is not based on logic.

  81. EML says:

    Of course it isn’t. The Democratic Party is made up of

    1) people who want to take as much as they can and

    2) Do-gooder busibodies who support government-forced redistribution of wealth so they can feel better about themselves and convince themselves that they care about the poor, the environment, or whatever. As long as they don’t have to actively go out and do something to help the poor and environment and can do it through government mandates, they are happy.

  82. Tim says:

    Did you even read the story? Did you even see which region of the Country was most affected? The South.

    Did you know the number of people on Food Stamps rose by 70% between 2007 and 2011? And, do you know why so many are on Food Stamps? It’s because of the economy that tanked, in 2008. That was under the previous Administration. Did you know that 75% of households on Food Stamps have either a senior, child, or disabled person in the house? Did you know that 85% of these same households are below the Poverty Line? What would you realistically suggest we do with them? Let them starve? We have 16 million children below the Poverty Line. Why do you think it immmoral to feed them? What do you want done with them? Your Party has produced no answers; just talk. Your Party, when recently in absolute power, failed.

    Here’s another fact, for you. Miost people on SNAP are working people. And, most leave the program within a year. So, this stuff about generations of the “nanny state” dependents is utter nonsense, where the Food Stamp Program is concerned.

    I respond to facts with facts. Go, and look all of it up.

  83. Tim says:

    How’s that for logic, boys and girls? I say it’s your Party that has left the World of the logical.

  84. EML says:


    More emotional arguments from Tim the Dim that fail to acknowledge the long term implications of his short-sighted policies.

  85. EML says:

    50 million people on food stamps. Do you really think that 20% of the population is so mentally or physically disabled that they are completely incapable of providing for themselves?

    A new government study found that the number of able-bodied adults on food stamps nearly doubled after Washington used the stimulus law to lift a key work requirement.

    The report from the Congressional Research Service was sent last week to House Republican Leader Eric Cantor. It comes as House Republicans prepare Thursday to try and block a separate work requirement waiver being sought by the Obama administration for welfare recipients.

    The CRS study dealt with the work requirement for a particular class of food-stamp recipients — “able-bodied adults” between 18 and 49 years old who have no dependents. Typically the food stamp program requires that group to work or participate in a training program at least 20 hours a week to continue receiving benefits after three months. The stimulus law, though, allowed states to suspend the rule from April 2009 to October 2010 — and most states did.

    In that time, the number in that group surged.

  86. EML says:

    I respond to facts with facts. Go, and look all of it up.
    Tim’s faith in his religion of liberalism = facts.

    Anything brought up by anyone here = fiction.

  87. EML says:

    Your Party, when recently in absolute power, failed.
    The country was doing pretty well until Democrats took control of Congress in 2006. All downhill since then.

  88. AuthorLMendez says:

    “We care more about doing it than you do.”

    Hey prick when the leader of your party openly admits he doesn’t care about balancing the budget you can’t make that comment with a straight face. A hardy GFY and to anyone who says such things when we have 2 diff budget plans. the GOP wants the budget balanced in 10 years (not soon enough IMO) and the Dems don’t care about balancing the budget. That’s all I need to know old man.

  89. AuthorLMendez says:

    “Your Party, when recently in absolute power, failed.”

    Fiscally mistakes for sure but we could claim a long period of economic growth and full employment. Your boy who you claim to have not voted for last year but so happily defend can’t claim any of that

  90. AuthorLMendez says:

    “I respond to facts with facts. ”

    LOL is facts?

  91. AuthorLMendez says:

    Tim continues to delude himself with denial. With people like him around it’s no wonder the economy keeps going downhill.

  92. EML says:

    Tim frantically searching the Kos archives for more emotional arguments…

  93. AuthorLMendez says:

    We are drowning in debt and deficits and Tim wants people to keep getting their slice of the pie. The leaders of his party are now openly admitting balancing the budget is not in their interest. This man is a prime example why we are where we are. Pure denial. But Tim will always have his emotions huh?

  94. AuthorLMendez says:

    But I know what Tim will say:


  95. EML says:

    Also, as is typical of a Democrat (following Obama’s lead), Tim is only interested in talking about the past and trying to point fingers at anyone but themselves. How about talking about the future and which party is best able to lead us out of the fiscal mess we are in? It sure isn’t the Democratic Party…

  96. SoHope says:

    Author, free stuff from the government is better than no free stuff from the government…it’s as easy as that.

    Free Phones, food, housing, child care, college money, Wi-Fi, medical, transportation, and of course…MONEY!

  97. SoHope says:

    BTW, Windows 8 “metro” sucks

  98. DW says:

    Is it just me or does it look like a new roof is needed on the sistine chapel?

  99. AuthorLMendez says:

    @98 the next Pope should get right on that

  100. AuthorLMendez says:

    C! suck it!

  101. Bitterlaw says:

    Stop fighting! It’s spftball season. First practice is Saturday at 9:00.

  102. EML says:

    Spitball season?

  103. MD says:

    If you start with the softball, I will drown this place in health and exercise posts. I swear to God.

  104. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m just excited. Post your BMI as my penalty.

    If parents knew how we discuss children and their parents at the draft, they would be stunned. One coach refused to take a very good player because her mom is a bitch. Another refused a player because she had a bad attitude and was a “team killer.” She is 11.

  105. AuthorLMendez says:

    “One coach refused to take a very good player because her mom is a bitch.”

    Translation: he can’t hit that

  106. MD says:

    I post what I want when I want! As usual MD goes his own way.

  107. Scott says:

    MD and Bitter
    Today’s Quinnipiac PA Poll has better numbers for Corbett than yesterday’s PPP/Jensen Poll. Go look and let me know which is more realistic.

  108. MD says:

    Post em Scott. Not in a position to research.

  109. bio mom says:

    testing posting here. having trouble the last few days.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    Sometimes MD goes his own way for months at a time right off yhe blog. We always leave the light on for him.

  111. jason says:

    Nanny state Tim is doing a lot of trash talking today.

    Blame Bush….yawn…..that train left the station about 4 years ago.

    Democrats care about balancing the budget??? LOL

    What do you propose doing with the poor?

    Thanks, Nanny state Tim, I would love to answer that.

    How about giving them opportunities in a market based economy rather than keeping them on government handouts so they feel beholden to the Democratic party? How about freeing them from sub-standard housing and sub-standard schools?

  112. Bitterlaw says:

    When people outside SE PA hear Alyson Schwartz, Corbett’s numbers will soar. She ran an abortion clinic but Ishe says she was a healthcare administrator. Of course, Jul will vote for her.

  113. jason says:

    Was working in NYC yesterday.

    There was a guy on the corner of 34th and 7th holding a “SAVE PAUL” sign.

    I thought it might be NYC-Paulbot but I had a meeting, no time to chat.

  114. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    Precipitous Pope Pick Poser

    How many pontificating cardinal people could pick a pope,
    If pontificators–pray–pick a pope?

    They can pick a prime pope
    and give the world hope
    If cadinal people would pick a pretty popular pope

  115. AuthorLMendez says:

    “that’s a shame…I have high hopes for Jennifer Carroll”

    It will help Scott in his tough battle next year. She was having constant scandals/gaffes

  116. W. PA Observer says:

    117- Maybe the female Attorney General (?) can get bumped up to Lt gov.

  117. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    114.Was working in NYC yesterday….

    Now NYCmike (Bronxie)know what that sharp pain in his arse was.

    It was tiny Jason. 🙂

  118. SoHope says:

    Golfer swallowed up into the earth dropped 15 ft into sinkhole while playing golf.

  119. AuthorLMendez says:

    “Maybe the female Attorney General (?) can get bumped up to Lt gov.”

    Lord knows I get bumped when I see her

  120. W. PA Observer says:

    107- 111- the quin poll seems about right, not great numbers for Corbett but better than PPP- I think some smart politicking-getting some more well-liked policies passed with those majorities will help him, that and a bloody dem primary where at least one dem (likely McCord) tries to run to the right of Schwartz/ as a non-Washington populist, and hits her on things like bitter mentioned. Sestak is a wild-card. It was long assumed Schwartz would run against Toomey in 2016- but as she’s giving up her seat one way or another and blowing that campaign nest-egg she has, that leaves that Dem field more open.

  121. AuthorLMendez says:

    I would be surprised if she did though WPA. She would be joining up on a race where she and Scott would start as underdogs. She can stay where she’s at and be easily re-elected. She’s pretty popular in the state.

  122. Walt, HHR Senator, formerly known as Delegate says:

    There be a


  123. NYCmike-Paulbot (Bronxie) says:

    jason says:
    March 13, 2013 at 9:39 am
    Was working in NYC yesterday.

    There was a guy on the corner of 34th and 7th holding a “SAVE PAUL” sign.

    I thought it might be NYC-Paulbot but I had a meeting, no time to chat.

    -You should have just yelled “Audit the FED!” and I would have given you the ol’ GFY! (Good For You!)

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