A Second Poll Shows Sanders Surging in NH

Suffolk University has now joined Morning Consult and released a poll showing Bernie Sanders putting up a rather strong challenge to Hillary Clinton in the state of New Hampshire.

Hillary Clinton 41%
Bernie Sander 31%
Joe Biden 8%
Martin O’Malley 3%
James Webb 1%
Lincoln Chafee 1%

In a way, I think Hillary Clinton is actually ecstatic about this as I am rather confident Democrats are not going to be stupid enough to make Bernie Sanders their nominee, but Sanders strong showing is keeping Martin O’Malley and Joe Biden in single digits. I still contend that Martin O’Malley could give Hillary Clinton a strong challenge, but since O’Malley took forever to officially enter the race, he gave Bernie Sanders an opening and Sanders filled the void and now O’Malley has to fight just to overcome Sanders for second place before he can even thinking of putting up a challenge to Clinton. This poll was done June 11-15 among 500 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 8:20 pm
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389 Responses to “A Second Poll Shows Sanders Surging in NH”

  1. Michael says:


  2. Bitterlaw says:

    I saw that Wes admires Bill Clinton. While he was clearly a master politician, his personal life and disgusting treatment of women do not put him on a list of people I admire. However, compared to Obama, Bill is like a conservative.

  3. I’d join Wes in doing a protest write in if Trump is the nominee. Bush would have a good shot at losing but I think he wouldn’t do as much down ballot damage as Trump would. Of course I would peg Trump’s chances at 0.1%. His favorables are so bad he makes Jeb look wildly popular with the Country.

    Comment by AuthorLMendez — June 16, 2015 @ 8:48 pm

    Trump’s favorables BTW are 57% negative w/ the very party he wants the nomination from. Not even the most unpopular of GOPers on the field (Jeb, Christie, ect) reach that kind of unpopularity with the party.

    Comment by AuthorLMendez — June 16, 2015 @ 8:49 pm

  4. @2 Compared to Obama, I’d call Bill the next Reagan

  5. There is a theory out there given he hasn’t done the proper paperwork that Trump will find a reason to drop out before the deadline.

  6. MichiganGuy says:

    @3 Wes and Author now dead enders hilarious yes lets do a protest vote to insure Hillary wins. I don’t want Bush for president but, if I have to choose between him and Hillary I will vote for Bush. He will at least work with the Republican congress and help other Republicans get elected.

  7. MichiganGuy says:

    ok, I misread that but, my agreement still holds I don’t like Trump but, I’d still vote for him instead of waste a protest vote.

  8. MichiganGuy says:

    agreement= agreement I need some coffee

  9. MichiganGuy says:

    I really need that coffee!!

  10. MichiganGuy says:

    why does hale keep screwing up my words!! Damn you Hale

  11. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Dave W,

    Good analysis of why O’Malley is not doing better.

  12. Cash Cow ™ says:




    He is running in the R primary.

    He needs the votes of the conservative wing and the evangelicals.

    He has:

    –been married (I think) 3 times

    –bankrupted once (?)

    –makes millions off of gam.bling cas.inos

    –has a $9 Billion net worth do does not connect with the struggles of the ‘common man’

    –has an ego as big as his bank account

    –has never been elected to anything in government

    –has whackadoodle foreign policy views

    No way.
    As they say in the card game of bridge:


  13. @6 *snorts* Hey if you want to be on record for saying you can live with a President Trump go right ahead. I won’t have that on my conscious. Almost every GOPer would get my vote w/o a second’s hesitation. Trump? Hell no.

  14. Let me put it this way, I’d vote for George F*cking Pataki and Lindsey F*cking Graham before I would Trump in the primary or the General.

  15. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Is Hal’s last name Hale?
    The hell you say!

  16. Walt says:

    My youngest son just got another raise.
    This time it is a dollar an hour raise.


  17. Warriors playing good early. Lebron is the only reason Cleveland has even been competitive in this thing.

  18. Walt says:



  19. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Wow, a lot of football looking scores in baseball tonight.

    Baltimore 19
    Philly 3

    Miami 12
    Yankees 2

    Nationals 16
    Rays 4

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    Of the 72 listed places, I may go to 4. John Marshall’s house seems interesting.

  21. Bitterlaw says:

    At least the Phillies got a field goal.

  22. Walt says:


    Stop by Harper’s Ferry on your way back to Philly.

    While in the Richmond area, you probably would not like to go visit The Battle of Manassas (due to the outcome), but after Harper’s Ferry, you could bop over to see Historic Shepherdstown, and then cross the bridge to hike the C&O Canal (head east down river (drive down to the C&O Antietam Camp Ground area), visit Boetler’s Ford where the PA Corn Regiment took heavy losses.

    Then go to visit the Battle of Sharpsburg (visitor’s center, Burnside Bridge, Bloody Lane, Dunkard Church, etc. Make sure you also stop at Nutter’s Ice Cream place just off the square in Sharpsburg.

  23. Cash Cow ™ says:

    So, more of you are now realizing there are problems with Pope Wackadoodle.

  24. Cash Cow ™ says:

    When Bernie Sanders flames out,
    O’Malley will then surge
    as the option to Hillary.

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – I will skip the Civil War sites. Not interested in causing trouble. I’m not the tourist they want. I’m not a cheerleader for that side.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    Why would I go to Harper’s Ferry? It doesn’t even have a bell.

  27. Walt says:

    Bitter…no bell….


    …you like pouring salt in old wounds…

    (I had a LONG post suggesting lots of things you and your family could do in the Harpers Ferry region, but Hal ate it.

    GFY Hal.

  28. Just as I expected the Warriors beat the Cavs to win their first Title since the 70s. Lebron is the best player in the world, a top 5 all time player, deserved the MVP IMO this year, and what I saw from him in these Finals clearly showed me his heart is in Cleveland>Miami. But he could only do so much given how statistically inferior the Cavs were to the Warriors. The Cavs only made the Finals because of such a pathetic and weak Eastern conference. I can see Lebron taking these Cavs right back next year but this was a year of destiny for Golden State. Congrats to them.

    PS – That’s the second straight year I’ve predicted the NBA Finals AND The Stanley Cup Finals right regardless my rooting interests in the Heat last year and the Bolts this year. Just saying – I know my stuff more than some think I do.

  29. Walt says:

    WV Governor–R primary

    Senate President Bill Cole has announced he is running.

    Congressman McKinley was interested, but announced recently he will pass on a race for governor.

    Today, WV AG Patric Morrisey (who was interested in running for gov.) also said he will pass on governor race and run for reelection to WV AG.

  30. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Thanks for clearing that up for me Author.

    I always thought it was the “Stan Lee Cup”.

  31. Wes says:

    Walt, would McKinley or Morrisey be the stronger challenger for Manchin?

  32. Tina says:

    We win., Cleveland got no rings, but they got Obama phones. Remember, the Obama phone lady.

  33. Walt says:


    Between McKinley or Morrisey, I would say McKinley would be the stronger challenger.

    I actually know Morrisey personally (and not McKinley) Patrick Morrisey was a big help to me in my last campaign. He is truly a good guy and a solid R.

    Patrick (from the 2nd CD) is doing a bang up job as AG, returned $18M in surplus funds in the AG’s office, is on top of things, engaged in the legislative process, is very intelligent and a real dynamo, etc.

    But McKinley (1st CD) I think would do better against Manchin.

    But at this time, I doubt either could defeat Manchin.

  34. Corey says:

    Hello. I know it’s late and the comments are lot fewer than in years past but I just wanted to express how thrilling and prideful it is to be a fan of the Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks. It’s been quite a ride, especially in the playoffs against very good opponents. I never really had any doubt though they would get it done this year.

    The Cubs may have their time too in the very near future and that would surpass everything.

    Even with all the Cubs suffering,it is almost hard for me to believe that in the four major professional sports, “my teams” have won 10 championships in my life thus far.

    I was too young to appreciate the one Super Bowl win, but thank you Michael Jordan for the ’90s and thank you Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane for the past few years.

    Dynasties indeed!

  35. Cash Cow ™ says:

    “got no rings”

    gringo snot?


  36. Corey says:

    And since I like Dynasties, you all can rest assured that (for many reasons) I am absolutely behind Jeb Bush and his effort to become the next President of the United States.

  37. Cash Cow ™ says:


    nasty side
    dies nasty

  38. Corey says:

    I am sorry about your relative’s recent passing, Cow. I hope everyone is doing as best they can.

  39. Cash Cow ™ says:


    Hope you have a great day, Dave! 🙂

  40. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Thank you, Corey.

    Doing okay.
    Dieing is part of living.

  41. Cash Cow ™ says:


    I do stare

  42. Cash Cow ™ says:


    No, it is just some guy named Jimmy Kimmel.

  43. Bitterlaw says:

    PS – That’s the second straight year I’ve predicted the NBA Finals AND The Stanley Cup Finals right regardless my rooting interests in the Heat last year and the Bolts this year. Just saying – I know my stuff more than some think I do.

    Zzzzzzzzzz. You picked a team that is a dynasty in the NHL and a team that had the best record in the NBA t win. Once it became LeBrown and a guy from Australia ahainst the Warriors, it was over.

  44. Marv says:


    I don’t care to visit Civil War battlefields either.

  45. Bitterlaw says:

    I love Civil War museums in the north andGettysburg. Not interested in the losing side because I am tired of listening to the revisionists and apologists at the sites.

  46. EML says:

    President – Quinnipiac

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Christie (R) 35%

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Paul (R) 39%

    Clinton (D) 49%
    Huckabee (R) 38%

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Bush (R) 42%

    Clinton (D) 47%
    Rubio (R) 44%

    Clinton (D) 48%
    Walker (R) 38%

    Clinton (D) 48%
    Cruz (R) 37%

    Clinton (D) 48%
    Kasich (R) 35%

  47. Of course the coward Corey doesn’t show up unless good things happen for him in Sports. Prove me wrong when you show up when bad things happen for your favorite teams. I show up here no matter what the result.

  48. EML says:

    President – Quinnipiac

    Clinton (D) 44%
    Christie (R) 39%

    Clinton (D) 43%
    Paul (R) 43%

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Huckabee (R) 41%

    Clinton (D) 42%
    Bush (R) 41%

    Clinton (D) 45%
    Rubio (R) 42%

    Clinton (D) 44%
    Walker (R) 40%

    Clinton (D) 47%
    Cruz (R) 39%

    Kasich (R) 47%
    Clinton (D) 40%

  49. “You picked a team that is a dynasty in the NHL and a team that had the best record in the NBA t win.”

    Once again Bitter pushes the goal posts

  50. “… because I am tired of listening to the revisionists and apologists…”

    man HHR is thick with irony

  51. EML says:

    President – Quinnipiac

    Clinton (D) 43%
    Christie (R) 41%

    Paul (R) 45%
    Clinton (D) 44%

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Huckabee (R) 39%

    Clinton (D) 45%
    Bush (R) 41%

    Rubio (R) 44%
    Clinton (D) 43%

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Walker (R) 41%

    Clinton (D) 47%
    Cruz (R) 40%

    Clinton (D) 45%
    Kasich (R) 39%

  52. LOVING those OH/PA numbers. FL numbers are meh but Quin is Historically awful polling my State.

  53. Bitterlaw says:

    Author – Weren’t the Blackhawks and Warriors the favorites going into those series? Just following the crowd does not make you a genius.

  54. Bitterlaw says:

    I do agree that it is pretty weak for Corey to only appear when a Chicago team wins. I wish he would post more often.

    I was going to make a prediction of a Corey appearance with 4 minutes to go in the hockey game. I did not want to jinx it because I wanted the Lightning to lose.

  55. @53 ESPN’s supposed top NBA expert certainly didn’t follow the crowd and got bit by it, but given his awful record predicting the Finals that may not be a good case for me.

  56. “I did not want to jinx it because I wanted the Lightning to lose.”

    I’ll remember this

  57. Michael says:


    Kasich 47
    Clinton 40

    Paul 43
    Clinton 43

    Clinton 42
    Bush 41

    Clinton 45
    Rubio 42

    Clinton 44
    Walker 40

    Clinton 44
    Christie 39

    Clinton 46
    Huckabee 41

    Clinton 47
    Cruz 39


    Rubio 44
    Clinton 43

    Paul 45
    Clinton 44

    Clinton 43
    Christie 41

    Clinton 45
    Bush 41

    Clinton 46
    Walker 41

    Clinton 45
    Kasich 39

    Clinton 46
    Huckabee 39

    Clinton 47
    Cruz 40


    Clinton 47
    Rubio 44

    Clinton 46
    Bush 42

    Clinton 46
    Paul 39

    Clinton 48
    Walker 38

    Clinton 46
    Christie 35

    Clinton 49
    Huckabee 38

    Clinton 48
    Cruz 37

    Clinton 48
    Kaisch 35

  58. Corey is the complete opposite of me. He drinks the kool aid and claims his favorite teams are going to win every year no matter how obvious this won’t be the year. I try and be objective. I knew the Heat wouldn’t have a chance against the Spurs in a rematch and I knew the Hawks were too much for this Bolts team. I root to be wrong but that whole kool-aid fan support thing isn’t for me. For this i’m called “a bad fan”. ¯\_(?)_/¯

  59. soccer guru says:

    It is impossible to win a championship with 21 ppg (Irving) and 16 ppg (Love) sitting on the bench.

    On a personal note, it is amusing to me that both Curry and LeBron were born in the same hospital as my son. Small world.

  60. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe that Vegas favored both the Blackhawks and Warriors.

    Since the teams I support are rarely in any championship game or series, my rules for choosing who I want to win are fairly simple:

    East over West

    North over South

    Any team playing the Dallas Cowboys, NY Giants Boston Red Sox, NY Mets, or St. Louis Cardinals.

    Any team playing a team supported by somebody at HHR unless that person supports the same team I do.

  61. EML says:

    If you need to pat yourself on the back every time you get a prediction right and don’t just let your predictions speak for themselves, then you are not good at predictions.

  62. @61 Did I hit a nerve? My record does speak for itself. But for whatever reason it’s become a running joke here on HHR that I can’t predict Sports championships even though my record says otherwise, so I chose to point this out. If it gets your little panties in a twist that bad you can just skip my posts. I do with most of your posts. Does wonders for my IQ.

  63. EML says:

    Just pointing out that those of us with excellent prediction records don’t feel the need to point out whenever we are right, since it happens so often. But if you need to self-validate your ego, then go right ahead.

  64. “But if you need to self-validate your ego, then go right ahead.”

    —> Comment by EML — June 17, 2015 @ 8:41 am

    If only there was a way to harness Irony and make it a renewable energy, Dave would be rich with supply

  65. Michael says:

    Come on you guys.

  66. EML says:

    Pee Pee Pee (D)
    National Presidential Primary

    Walker 17%
    Bush 15%
    Rubio 13%
    Carson 12%
    Huckabee 11%
    Cruz 8%
    Paul 8%
    Fiorina 5%
    Christie 4%

    Clinton 65%
    Sanders 9%
    O’Malley 5%
    Chafee 4%
    Webb 4%

  67. EML says:

    You keep using that word. I do not think that word means what you think that word means.

  68. MichiganGuy says:

    Slow Jam the News with Jeb Bush

  69. Michael says:

    66 Fiorina would be allowed into the first debate I think with 5%.

  70. Michael says:

    Two Republicans lead Clinton in PA.

    Rubio and Paul, I think we might be seeing PA enter the tossup category again.

  71. @68 You’re hillarious

    @69 No Thanks

    @70 If Trump makes the first debate but not Fiorina the GOP’s debate rules have failed

  72. Wes says:

    It’s not even 9:00, and HHR is already the site of a small war.


  73. I always thought it was gonna be an early tossup Mike. OH numbers look good given the situation. FL is meh to awful but again Quin’s record polling my State is so awful i’ll take it.

  74. Wes says:

    Quinnipiac says Clinton beats Rubio in Florida. I’ll say I’m skeptical of that.

  75. EML says:

    9:00 is late. I’ve been at work for almost 3 hours already.

  76. All 3 Quin State polls however show Trump at around 60% unfavorable and Hillary at negative numbers in trustworthiness. If the latter numbers don’t change by this next year, Hillary is in deep trouble.

  77. Bitterlaw says:

    Author – My point is that many of your predictions seem to be in line with picking the favorite to win. I don’t recall many upset choices. It’s not like you have picked anything on the magnitude of the Jets beating the Colts in the Super Bowl.

    You want to be lauded for your selections. I get it. I rarely predict anything related to sports because I’m usually wrong.

  78. MichiganGuy says:


    Scott Walker 17%
    Jeb Bush 13%
    Marco Rubio 12%
    Ben Carson 11%
    Mike Huckabee 8%
    Ted Cruz 5%
    Rand Paul 5%
    Carly Fiorina 4%
    Chris Christie 4%

  79. MichiganGuy says:

    Dang EML is too fast

  80. ” I don’t recall many upset choices. ”

    Well I did pick against the Heat the first time they played the Spurs and got bit. I did pick the Ravens who were underdogs. Also picked the Kings over the Devils even though the Kings were the weaker seed. Seahawks are probably my biggest upset pick since I posted here. Almost did it with them again until the worst play call in SB History.

  81. Michael says:

    78 I usually pick too many upsets. Sometimes I’m right and sometimes I’m wrong lol

  82. Ben Fiorina says:


    Hillary/Rubio: 47/44
    Hillary/Bush: 46/42
    Hillary/Christie: 46/35
    Hillary/Paul: 46/39
    Hillary/Huckabee: 49/38
    Hillary/Walker: 48/38
    Hillary/Cruz: 48/37
    Hilllary/Kasich: 48/35

    Kasich/Hillary: 47/40
    Hillary/Christie: 44/39
    Hillary/Paul: 43/43
    Hillary/Huckabee: 46/41
    Hillary/Bush: 42/41
    Hillary/Rubio: 45/42
    Hillary/Walker: 44/40
    Hillary/Cruz: 47/39

    Rubio/Hillary: 44/43
    Paul/Hillary: 45/44
    Hillary/Christie: 43/41
    Hillary/Huckabee: 46/39
    Hillary/Bush: 45/41
    Hillary/Walker: 46/41
    Hillary/Cruz: 47/40

  83. Gee I wonder if Quin came out with polls today?

  84. Average Hillary lead in Quinnipiac:

    FL +9
    OH +2
    PA +3

  85. Bitterlaw says:

    In 2012, the Kings were favorites over the Devils.

  86. @86 No I meant their first Cup over the Devils. Had them beating the Rangers. Which may explain EML’s nerves being over the sports prediction discussion:

    Rangers-Kings will feature two of the top five defensive teams in the league. It will be a close, low-scoring affair. Rangers in 7, as Quick is just letting in too many goals and Lundqvist is playing much better.

    Comment by EML — May 30, 2014 @ 8:42 am

  87. @87 Whoa. News to me Bitter. Okay so I have the Seahawks in my back pocket.

  88. Okay I’m done with the fighting and bickering this Morning. I just got word of a possible crisis for this blog in the next couple days. For whatever reason that nut Dondero decided to contact me on Twitter with this threat:

    @authorlmendez Hey Luis, how’s it hangin’ bro? I shall return to Hedgehog come election season. See ya soon. Tell the others…

    Suddenly making fun of EML’s raging high blood pressure isn’t so worthy anymore.

  89. Bitterlaw says:

    ED must need traffic for his site. We must all put aside our petty differences to fight the common enemy.

  90. Michael says:

    90 oh brother

  91. jason says:

    90. We are strong here, we can meet any challenge no matter how difficult.

    That being said, its horrible news.

  92. jason says:

    I would vote for Trump over Hillary contrary to Wes and Author.

    But I sure hope it doesn’t come to that.

  93. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe he just wants to rub it in about how Senator Orman kicked ass and…oh.

  94. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    If I recall correctly Quinnipiac’s 47/40 lead for Kasich over Hillary in OH was the same exact number PPP-D had a week or so ago.

  95. Bitterlaw says:

    I will continue my streak of voting for whomever gets the GOP nomination for President. If that is Trump, and it will not be Trump, so be it.

  96. Wes says:

    Who else finds it ironic Eric Dondero has the initials ED?

  97. Michael says:

    96 he seems to be the best candidate in terms of getting the GOP 18 EV’s no matter what. The numbers are great in PA as well, I bet if eastern PA knew him well he would be much closer to Clinton in PA as well.

  98. Wes says:

    So, Author, whose lawn is Dondero planning to defecate on next?

  99. Michael says:


  100. It’s still too early but these OH/PA numbers given the situation (Hillary as a quasi-incumbent vs a bunch of unkowns) really show what a load of BS the “inevitable” talk is. Add in Sanders starting to worry Hillary people in NH and the woman can’t do a “run out the clock” campaign. If she does she risks losing and losing by bigger margins than “experts” thought she could.

  101. @100 Don’t ask me. I have no clue why he decided to contact me. I was thinking about replying to him and telling him not to come by but I thought that would only embolden him.

  102. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    SO the last three PA polls with head-to-head matchups show Hillary in MoE tie with at least one of the GOP candidates and she is stuck in the mid-40s. Fools gold?

  103. Bitterlaw says:

    100 Probably mine. Maybe Author is smart to rent after all.

  104. Michael says:

    104 definitely not fools gold. You and I have been saying that for a while.

  105. Michael says:

    Indiana Governor

    Gregg (D) 41%
    Pence (R) 40%

    Pence (R) 42%
    Ritz (D) 42%

  106. EML says:

    Suddenly making fun of EML’s raging high blood pressure isn’t so worthy anymore.
    I like how I make one short comment about your self-promoting posts and suddenly you “hit a nerve” and I have “high blood pressure”. What color is the sky in the fantasyland you live in?

  107. Waingro says:

    I still think PA is a pipe dream, but these numbers are encouraging – though seemingly inconsistent with redder states like FL and OH showing Hillary with comfortable leads almost across the board.

    Quinny always seems to be wildly inconsistent with various states. They usually show much redder numbers in CO and IA, so I’d be interested to see some updated numbers from there as well to try and gauge a pattern.

  108. EML says:

    Yet you are the one who is going on and on about it and can’t stop talking about me. Talk about hitting a nerve…

  109. MichiganGuy says:

    ‘We need to stop the flow of secret, unaccountable money,” Hillary Clinton said Saturday during her vaunted campaign “do over.”

  110. Michael says:

    110 that is true. Author it is probably best to not debate EML over such a silly comment. EML will likely stop his quarreling commentary as well.

  111. “Yet you are the one who is going on and on”

    Please go on…

  112. @107 Would like to see a link on that

  113. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Good morning various humans, trolls, sock and Bubu.

    Today, I have decided to be a male bird.

    I have sometimes thought I was a male bird trapped in a female bovine body.

    What a country!
    The land of all sorts of personal identity possibilities.

    Now it is time to live the dream.

  114. Cash Cow ™ says:

    You keep using that word. I do not think that word means what you think that word means.”
    I tasted the water from the new well.
    The water from the old well tasted sulfury.
    Now the water tastes a little irony.

  115. Cash Cow ™ says:

    “pipe dream”

    paper dime
    pampered I
    a ripped me
    mapped ire
    I remapped

  116. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    115 – wow, I think you should get a cable show to document the surgery required to make the change. That would be quite a procedure I am sure.

  117. Basically agree w/ most of this. To win in 2016, the next candidate needs to think past the 2000/2004 map

  118. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Drudge headlining a photo of Hillary looking admiringly at Jeb Bush just before he awards her the “Liberty Medal” at an event.

    I just don’t see how Bush gets the nomination. The biggest reason isn’t his perceived moderate stance, though that is a factor. His largest obstacle is the primary schedule itself. Of the first 16 states, 1/3 of the entire schedule) only NH, MA, and VT are states that probably play well for Bush. He should have a much harder time in IA, SC, NV, AL, GA, MN, NC, ND, OK, TN, TX, and VA.

  119. Barrett - HHR Senator says:


    Jeb’s stance on Common Core and Amnesty are deal breakers for me. The tough primary schedule and bad name recognition don’t help his case either

  120. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Taking a closer look at some of these trendlines in the Quinnipiac polling, Hillary against the GOP frontrunners:

    PA – Hillary vs Rubio:

    3/11, Hillary +18
    3/28, Hillary +4
    6/15, Rubio +1

  121. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    more Quinnipiac…

    FL – Hillary vs Rubio

    7/21, Hillary +14
    2/1, Hillary +10
    3/28, HIllary +2
    6/15, Hillary +3

  122. Walt says:


    why is Cash Cow sittting on the house roof and flapping her front legs?

    Here is my take on the GOP POTUS primary and who I would like to see hang around for a while and why:

    FIORINA: Hope she stays in a long time.
    (personally, WAY down my list of who I would vote for)

    –Her presence will show that the R party is not just for males.
    –She is good at going after Hillary and a woman doing it comes across better than a man doing it.
    –she is articulate and good at staying on message.
    CARSON: Hope he also sticks around for a while.
    (NOT on my list of who I would vote for

    –His presence shows that the R party is not just for whites.
    –lots of people would normally would not tune in to R debates would do so out of curiosity to see what Carson has to say.
    –lots of indy type people really like Carson as a person, his poverty to success personal story, his books and his support of core American values that made America great.

    –In case Walker and Rubio both blow up, he could be the rallying point for the Non-Jebs among us.
    (He is my third choice at this time.)
    Jeb will be around for the long haul (unless he gets a clear message from the voters that his support is not nearly what he thinks it is).

    So I would like to also like to see Walker, Rubio, Perry, Carson and Fiorina up on the debate stage.

    Trump, Jindal, Christie, Kasich, Santorum, Pataki, Graham cracker and the rest of the possible or announced candidates have no business being on the debate stage. They will be distractions and will help split and dilute the Non-Jeb vote.

  123. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    OH – Hillary vs Rubio

    2/17/14 – Hillary +14
    5/12/14 – Hillary +7
    3/28/15 – Hillary +9
    6/15/15 – Hillary +3

  124. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    OH – Hillary vs Walker

    3/28 – Hillary +11
    6/15 – Hillary +4

  125. Michael says:

    Three ways to win Pennsylvania. The author is absolutely correct. Just as I have been saying. Hit more states with ads and voter registration campaigns.

  126. Michael says:

    Ex-Rep. Jim Gerlach is moving back to PA…..

    Setting up a Gerlach vs. Wolf race…

  127. Waingro says:

    Overall: Great piece by Brandon Finnegan, but it also somewhat highlights the needle that needs to be thread in order to bring PA into the fold. It will be tough regardless.

    He also downplays VA a little too much, IMO. Yes, there seems to be a disconcerting bluish trend in that state, but the GOP also did perform well above expectations in some recent statewide elections. Let’s not abandon too much ship there.

  128. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    119 – yeah, interesting article. I agree that its too early to give up on VA. Here is my list of states that the GOP candidate should look at seriously competing in (of course much depends on the ticket):

    Given: Its a given that the GOP will try to flip FL, OH and VA

    Great shots at a flip: IA CO and NH. These states should be competitive. With the possibly tight EV margins, New Hampshire’s 4 EVs could be the difference.

    Definitely go for it: The GOP candidate should definitely compete to win in PA NV WI. There are 36 EVs at stake in these states, and the GOP has had recent statewide electoral success in each of these states.

    Test the waters to see if a serious play should be made: MI NM OR WA IL ME? NJ? CT? Some of these might have a cheaper ad market, and if Hillary is at all wobbly, makes sense to aggressively expand the map, especially in an open election.

  129. And of course the “let it burn!” clown that is DrewMTips is saying the GOP needs to ignore CAC’s advice on expanding the map. But about what I’ve come to expect from that clown.

  130. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    132 – we do need to be smart about where to expand. If there is a state where more money won’t get enough votes, and no reasonable plan can be seen to get those votes, then move resources to states where such a plan can bear fruit. Similarly, if there is a wobbly state where ad $ isn’t going to really get more votes, then sure up the GOTV to ensure a win, and buy ads elsewhere.

  131. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Last time we had the famous acronym FLOHVA (Florida Ohio Virginia) as key
    states, maybe add these for 2016:

    CONHIA (Colorado, New Hampshire, Iowa)

    WIPAMI (Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan)

  132. I truly believe IA is very ripe for flipping our way in 2016. CO, NH, PA, WI, maybe even MI & NM are tough but doable. There’s always a surprise in these open seats as well so maybe if things really get going our way we may see DE, NJ, & ME return into the competitive fold. But let’s not get too far ahead. While I do think the next GOP President will reshape the Electoral College I don’t see them doing that without sweeping FL, OH, VA

  133. Wes says:

    One thing not mentioned in the article about expanding the presidential map is that downballotvotes are bbecoming more homogenous with presidential votes. That is, voting for a GOP or Dem presidential candidate is increasing the likelihood of voting for the same party for Senate, House, Governor, et al. In other words, aggressively pursuing presidential level votes increases the likelihood of bringing in likeminded people for other offices.

    That makes the presidential GOTV effort all the more important.

  134. Phil says:

    Hmmm. Quinn has Hillary up three over Rubio in Fla? Maybe it’s so, but I have trouble buying that one. Maybe it is accurate at this time since it is early, but with her negatives and the fact that Rubio has the home advantage there I just don’t see it. Obviously if Rubio can’t carry Florida the electoral math is just about impossible for Marco or any other Republican. Not buying this one.

    I’ll defer to Author on this one since he knows a helluva lot more about his state than I. What say you, Author?

  135. Nickelodeon says:

    @131…135 Based on continued analysis of trends.

    Total 2016 R/D percentages for President could be almost EVEN with I’s up by at least few percent from 2012.

    Impacts to any national polls would be obvious.

    Maintain many polls are still at least 2 percent too D. Maybe even 3 to 4 percent.

  136. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Cash Cow, you might wish to challenge these numbers…you are getting called out as a big time killer:

  137. @137 Phil it’s not too hard to estimate what’s up, even for a guy who misfired on how bad Fangate would hurt Scott. Quin has a History of botching FL. Given the OH/PA numbers my guess is it’s likely an outlier. Now if St Leo University, Mason Dixon, Optimus, or St Pete Polls showed these numbers then I would cringe.

  138. Phil says:

    Yeah, that’s what I thought. Stands to reason that if Romney could basically run a statistical tie with Obama in Florida in 2012, Rubio will run ahead of Romney there against Lady MacBeth and win the state.

  139. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I always wonder if FL pollsters take into account the difference of polling the state in the summer vs winter. In the summer all the snow-birds tend to be up north and not answering their FL land-lines. I know some Dems might be snow-birds as well, but I would guess by and large the majority are Republicans.

  140. Bitterlaw says:

    I would think most snow-birds are Democrats from the Northeast because there are more Democrats than Republicans in NJ, NY, and New England.

    Author – go to the 4:30 dinner special after Thanksgiving and find out who they are.

  141. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    143 – I have an elderly relative who is a FL snow-bird. Has the huge motor home and makes the trip to upstate NY every year. He is very political, a conservative Republican, and he has a very wide network of snow-bird friends and acquaintances, and I asked him once, and he said the majority are Republicans.

  142. Marv says:


    Early dinner at a restaurant is an attractive option for folks like me. I don’t have to deal with all those brainwashed progressive millenials who eat later.

  143. Marv says:


    How goes it?

  144. Waingro says:

    “And of course the “let it burn!” clown that is DrewMTips is saying the GOP needs to ignore CAC’s advice on expanding the map. But about what I’ve come to expect from that clown.”

    I read that. Part of what he said I agree with: it certainly depends upon the sales pitch and who is offering the pitch to those untapped voters. But his overly blunt snarkness and part dismissiveness hurts his credibility.

    He also hates being called out. He blocked me on twitter a long time ago over something so lame. Very thin skinned.

  145. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    146 – good, and you?

  146. Marv says:

    #148 DW,

    Great. Just returned from HI……getting ready for the GOP nominating season and the election next year.

    I took a few months off from Hedgehog, but I’ll be around more often now.

  147. “I don’t have to deal with all those brainwashed progressive millenials who eat later.”

    Hey! We’re not all brainwashed progressives

  148. Marv says:

    #150 AuthorLMendez,

    You are an exception, and a breath of fresh air.

  149. Mr.Vito says:

    Campus rape tribunals punish without proof, critics say

    Just keep it in your pants, Michael.

  150. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – Good advice. Michael should just live through Wes’ exploits.

  151. Wes says:

    Michael couldn’t handle my exploits.

  152. Marv says:


    How is your recovery coming along?

  153. Michael says:

    Handle what?

  154. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    2016 Paladin/CFP POTUS Dashboard
    ST | Paldn| Sabat| Cook| Roth || AVG | EVs
    IN | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R || SF R | 154
    MO | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R || LK R | 164
    AZ | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R || LK R | 175
    GA | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R || LK R | 191
    NC | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R || LN R | 206
    FL | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss || TOSS | 235
    OH | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss || TOSS | 253
    IA | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D || TOSS | 241
    NH | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D || TOSS | 245
    CO | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss || TOSS | 272
    —^—above states give GOP the win—^—-
    VA | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss || TOSS | 266
    WI | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D || LN D | 253
    PA | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D || LN D | 243
    NV | Lk D | Toss | Ln D | Lk D || LN D | 223
    MN | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D || LK D | 217
    MI | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D || LK D | 207
    NM | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D || LK D | 191
    WA | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D || SF D | 186
    OR | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D || SF D | 174
    ME | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D || SF D | 167

  155. YouGov/The Economist

    – R Primary Among Rs
    Bush 14%
    Rubio 10%
    Carson 9%
    Paul 9%
    Walker 9%
    Huckabee 7%
    Perry 7%
    Fiorina 6%
    Christie 4%
    Kasich 4%
    Cruz 3%
    Santorum 3%
    Trump 2%
    Jindal 1%
    Graham <1%
    Pataki <1%

    – D Primary Among Ds
    Clinton 62%
    Sanders 16%
    Biden 13%
    Chafee 1%
    O'Malley 1%
    Webb 1%

    – General Election
    Generic D Candidate 42%
    Generic R Candidate 41%

  156. Waingro says:

    #159, FWIW: D+10 adults poll.

  157. Waingro says:

    #159, oh and Barry is at 46% approval with that D+10.

  158. Michael says:

    Fiorina ahead of Cruz?

  159. Marv says:

    Gov Perry appears to be moving up in the standings.

  160. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    YouGov isn’t exactly an accurate pollster

  161. Marv says:


    Probably not.

  162. Waingro says:

    #164, yeah after the UK elections mess, you have to be at least a little skeptical.

  163. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    YouGov was really bad in the 2014 congressional elections too.

  164. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    Fiorina is unknown, Cruz is disliked.

    My guess would be she edges him out. I’d vote for her, I definitely wouldn’t vote for Cruz

  165. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    The division leading Mets have a lead-off hitter batting just .242. Has there ever been a 1st place team with a lead-off hitter batting so poorly?

  166. Waingro says:

    Red alert noted!

    Larry Kudlow ?@larry_kudlow 3h3 hours ago

    People in the know say SCOTUS decision King v. Burwell Obamacare will be handed down tomorrow. Red alert. Defcon 4.

  167. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    170 – watch it go against Obama, and Obama come out and simply overrule the high court with an EO.

  168. Bobby says:

    I doubt that is true it is coming out tomorrow. SCOTUS will wait till the end.

  169. Michael says:

    171 if he does he gives the gop a big plank in 2016.

  170. Michael says:

    172 no I think gay marriage is last.

  171. Waingro says:

    #171, Barry is just going to sit on his hands and politicize and demonize it that the GOP is gonna let “millions die” etc. unless they give in to his demands to simply do a one page fix of the statute. Hillary will be his willing accomplice.

  172. Marv says:

    Why is there a presumption that SCOTUS will rule for King?

  173. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I haven’t been paying attention, which is the good guy and bad guy in King vs Burwell? I have no idea how it is going to go. My guess is it was going to go against Obama, he got that info leaded from Hagan, so he went on that rant last week, and Roberts changed his mind again…and it will go in favor of Obamacare, which is why Obama has gone silent again on it.

  174. W. PA Observer says:

    130. On Brandon Finnegan- he’s actually posted here at times as CAC.

  175. W. PA Observer says:

    Trying to predict SCOTUS rulings before they hand them down is a mug’s game. Just wait for whatever they say.

  176. Marv says:


    David King is one of three plaintiffs from VA challenging Federal subsidies in states that didn’t establish Obamacare subsidies. Sylvia Burwell is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

    King is the good guy in this case.

  177. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Thanks Marv, as is often the case, we try to know as much as we possibly can, but there are limits. In never try to pretend to know what I don’t know.

  178. Bobby says:

    The court has 17 opinions to hand down in the next 4 days they release opinions (possibly 5 if they chose so). So three opinions at least will be given each day. Gay Marriage will be last, but so will Burwell and King they save the biggies to the end. We have a lot of other cases to release opinions on

  179. lisab says:

    hi marv,

    how we are you?

    in your opinion which was the best plane

    mustang, fw190, bf109?

    until recently i was under the impression that the er mustang was in a class by itself, but have recently seen comparisons that show late model fws and bf109s were actually superior


  180. GF says:


    Though rare in number, Kurt Tank’s TA-152 (based on the FW-190 frame) was a phenomenal high-altitude interceptor. The Luftwaffe should have invested more in resources like that and a long-range four-engine bomber instead of those silly jets and rockets (unless they were gong to actually use the jets in an appropriate role).

  181. lisab says:

    any hints from kennedy?

  182. Corey says:

    At least no one here has attacked me for being a Bush supporter.

  183. lisab says:

    i was ignoring the jets

    they had early versions of the me262 in 1942

    but thought the war be would end before they would be needed

    who but goering and adolf see the me262 in 1942 and thinks

    “eh … we don’t need that”?

  184. GF says:

    Gloster Meteor was out by 1940 IIRC. Turbofan engines were first introduced in 1938 or so. Would have taken time to perfect, but no reason a turbofan airframe couldn’t be flying BY 1942, if not a little earlier, with the proper resources allocated.

  185. Walt says:


    Putting up new electric plate covers in the computer/library room.

    I broke a wire on the phone line box going to the computer.

    I had no internet connection.

    I had 4 choices of where to put the loose wire.
    I did not die, and was successful.

  186. Walt says:

    I guess I just saved money for a servicde call from the phone company.


  187. Walt says:

    “big plank”

    blank pig

  188. jason says:

    Walt is probably the first and only HHR poster to have used both carrier pigeons and the Internet.

  189. jason says:

    “At least no one here has attacked me for being a Bush supporter.”


    Oh, you mean Hillary-lite.

  190. jason says:

    “Arianna Jones, a producer for MSNBC’s The Ed Show, is leaving the network at the end of the week and joining Bernie Sanders‘ nascent campaign for president.”

    She is not really “leaving”.

    It’s more like a transfer within the organization.

  191. lisab says:


    you connect to the internet by phone?

    so are you on compuserve or have you switched to that new fangled aol?

  192. Marv says:

    #183 lisab,

    The P51 was a both a tank killer and a superior air to air fighter. When it was deployed in the ETO, it had the range to provide fighter escort of a bomber stream from England to Germany and back. Prior to that, our bombers had to penetrate German airspace unprotected by fighters.

  193. Marv says:


    What the heck does a squid know about airplanes?

  194. Bitterlaw says:

    Does anybody else see a Marv-lisab fight brewing where lisab lectures a real pilot on planes?

  195. Bitterlaw says:


  196. Bitterlaw says:


  197. lisab says:

    i knew about th mustang’s range

    supposedly goering said the war was lost when he saw escorted bombers over germany

    what was a surprise to me was that the late model fw190’s and bf109’s were arguably superior aircraft

  198. Marv says:


    Maybe so, but by then we had moved on to the P59 and P80/F80.

  199. lisab says:

    similarly i recently saw the stats of the 1941 japanese planes vs. their american 1941 counterparts

    i was surprised how well the usa p39 and p40 compared

    what were the japanese thinking?

    (even ignoring the p38, corsair, and hellcat)

  200. Marv says:

    LT’s Welsh and Taylor demonstrated how well the P40 could perform. 8 kills between them near Ford Island on 7 Dec 41.

  201. lisab says:

    and don’t forget the flying tigers

  202. Walt says:


    Long ago, we used to have dial up.
    Now we have broadband.

    My email has been AOL for eons.

    I wanted to change it some years ago, but did not want to do it while in elective office and go through the hassle of switching email contact info.

    I think since our telephone company was bought out by Frontier just a year or so ago that we may have new, free frontier email accounts with but neither my wife nor I use that.

    After next year, I will switch from AOL and have some other thingie for my email (probably …, and then go through the hassle of sending emails out to all the people I know announcing my new email address–and my wife will have the joy of doing the same concerning updating her many contacts as to what will be her new NON-AOL email account.

    Perhaps I will expire before then and not have to go through that ordeal.

  203. Marv says:


    Flying Tigers! I wanted to be one of them until I grew up and found out the war was already over.

  204. lisab says:

    are you a fan of “pappy” boyington?

    he was a flying tiger

  205. W. PA Observer says:

    204. Those things were like a Mack Truck as fighter planes went- not the most maneuverable but they could take a pounding. Japanese planes aimed more for maneuverability- their big issue was the decline in pilot skill- too many of their cadre of pilots went to the bottom at Midway, and they didn’t rotate veteran crews back as instructors like the US did.

  206. Mr.Vito says:

    He solicited a college age lover to find a high school student to have a three-way with. This is fourth degree rape, I guess as apparently there are at least three ways to arrange to rape someone that are considered more despicable. Oh well.

  207. Marv says:

    #208 lisab,

    Yes. Boyington was a Marine’s Marine.

  208. Marv says:

    #209 W. PA Observer,

    The Battle of the Coral Sea earlier was the beginning of the end for Japanese Navy aviation.

  209. MichiganGuy says:

    Remember when we used to live in an America where we were free to live as we wished as long as we didn’t harm others? Well, we don’t live there anymore.
    wow, I can see this happening in the liberal North but, Alabama. How low will America go? Communist, socialist, Oligarchy. Why not surrender now and elect socialist Bernie sanders?

  210. Mr.Vito says:

    At least he’s finally where an Obama lap dog belongs.

  211. Bitterlaw says:

    210 I would increase the sentence to “bullet in the head” but there may be reasons (not excuses) for his decision.

  212. Mr.Vito says:

    After a Kris Bryant Slam, Cubs are up 17-0 in the ninth. A couple years ago I’d have said they should try to add a few insurance runs.

  213. Bitterlaw says:

    Well, I guess that may bring Corey back for another drive-by post.

  214. Mr.Vito says:

    There are reasons for good and bad decisions… This one definitely requires an excuse.

  215. Mr.Vito says:

    Will he lose is law license, Mr. Bitter?

  216. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I would think so. This is a felony. I did not see it in the story but giving up his license may have been part of the plea deal that lead to what I think is a pretty light sentence.

  217. Mr.Vito says:

    Oh, I see. Are the plea deal details usually confidential?

  218. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m not sure, Nr. Vito. They might be in a case like this. At som point, a disbarmmt would be published.

  219. Mr.Vito says:

    Did he get any takers at that price?

  220. Macs CA-25 says:

    Goodnight to you all

  221. Mr.Vito says:

    We apparently got another live a$$hole for you to put a bullet in tonight Mr. Bitter…

  222. Bitterlaw says:

    Women who I could see on the $10 bill:

    Abigail Adams

    Dolly Madison

    Eleanor Roosevelt

    Woodrow Wilson’s wife – possibly acted as President after his stroke.

  223. jason says:

    “Why not surrender now and elect socialist Bernie sanders?”

    Funny from someone who thinks Huckabee is a viable candidate.

  224. Ugh, can we have at least 24 Hours pass after a tragic shooting spree without someone making it political? The Charleston Mayor is already going off about Gun control.

  225. @228 Eleanor? Do you want me to gag every time I look at the $10 bill? If you’re gonna put her on it at least make it a younger version of her.

  226. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    Terrible what happened in Charleston. My prayers are with the families of those lost, of course.

    Having said that…if the same massacre occurred on gangs in Baltimore (regardless of race), I wouldn’t be shedding any tears. What happened now is terrible and will only make racial tensions worse in this country.

  227. Wes says:

    My heart goes out to the victims in the Charleston church murder.

    Incredibly sad.

  228. jason says:

    Already classified as “hate crime”.

    The “let’s wait for the investigation” part only applies to Islamic terrorists.

  229. Michael says:

    GOP Primary

    Kasich 19%
    Bush 9%
    Walker 8%
    Rubio 7%
    Paul 7%
    Huckabee 7%
    Cruz 6%
    Carson 6%
    Christie 3%
    Perry 2%
    Santorum 2%
    Fiorina 1%
    Trump 1%

    Rubio leads PA, and Bush leads 20-18 over Rubio in Florida.

  230. Waingro says:

    SCOTUS live blog here. Apparently there are 4 full boxes of decisions:

  231. Bitterlaw says:


    Obamacare loses

    Confederate flag wins (too bad but at least all th Japanese and Germans will be able to get their Rising Sun and Swastika license plates)

    Gay marriage (toughest call) – left to states but will be legal in all 50 in 5 years

  232. Michael says:

    Detroit News

    Clinton (D) 42%
    Rubio (R) 39%

    Clinton (D) 45%
    Paul (R) 41%

    Clinton (D) 44%
    Walker (R) 37%

    Clinton (D) 46%
    Bush (R) 37%

  233. jason says:

    Hillary-lite will do better once the field is cleared.

  234. Michael says:

    Justice Thomas joined with the Liberals on the court in the Confederate Flag ruling.

  235. jason says:

    Thomas voted with the liberals on the flag.

  236. jason says:

    Michael beat me to it.

  237. Bitterlaw says:

    Headed to Richmond. My son probably wants to look at Virginia schools just to piss me off.

  238. Bitterlaw says:

    What was the flag ruling? I’m in the car.

  239. jason says:

    5-4 against the flag.

  240. Waingro says:

    #244, the Court essentially held that that a Texas law banning Confederate flag on a license plate does not implicate the First Amendment, because it’s “government speech”.

    On a side note, it’s kind of sad that someone in this day and age would actually appeal that.

  241. Bitterlaw says:

    The Court sometimes likes quirky cases. I would love to know how much money the. Lawyers made on the flag case.

  242. Marv says:

    I’m with Justice Thomas on this one.

  243. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    Ouch for Hillary on that Michigan poll.

  244. Wes says:

    Michigan hasn’t voted GOP for President since 1988. Hillary is struggling there.

    She’s invincible, I tell you!

  245. Looks like they caught the Bastard,

    as far MI goes, Obama won that State in a landslide in 2008 after Bush was competitive there in 2000 and almost got it in 2004. In 2012 Romney was competitive there but it was Obama’s biggest win in all of the competitive States save for maybe his 10 point win in NM. If Hillary is having issues there it pretty much shows 2008 was an anomaly in the State. MI would be far down in gettable States for us in my mind but it is winnable.

  246. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Sounds like they caught the church prayer meeting killer. Once tried and convicted, any objections to a long and painful execution?

  247. Michael says:

    Rubio vs. Clinton makes:

    Michigan and Pennsylvania tossups at the moment.

    That automatically tells me he should be the nominee right now. In electoral purposes since he is bringing the most states into the tossup category he has to be on the establishments list. Bush can get lobbyists, sure, but Rubio has to be on people’s minds as being the one the RNC truly wants.

  248. Whoa, dude is 21. Just 5 years younger than me.

  249. @253 Let’s not rush to things just yet though. I’m happy to see these numbers but Christie himself was dominating polling and we saw what happened to him. Rubio, Walker, Bush, etc could all be this cycle’s Rick Perry. I tend to think Bush is more likely than not to be that person but we are still too early into this for me to be confident about who would play well over others in the general campaign. Let’s see how the primaries flesh out first. If the Rubio hype is true, he’ll overcome and win the Primaries.

  250. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m sorry they took him alive. Now he gets a forum for his racist garbage (assuming what he told on survivor was reportedly accurately).

  251. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    250 – my thoughts exactly. Hillary stuck in the mid-40s in Michigan with 100% name recognition.

  252. Waingro says:

    #255, yeah, lest we not forgot Terri Lynn Land’s early poll numbers in Michigan.

  253. @259 I wonder if we’ll ever know why she suddenly gave up on that Race like she did

  254. Michael says:

    258 they are horrible at polling.

  255. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m curious what Mr. Bitter thinks about this one… It specifically says the prosecution does not have the right to cross-examine a witness whose testimony is used in court.

  256. Mr.Vito says:

    The defense I mean… Though I guess the precedent would be set for either side.

  257. Waingro says:

    Barry is such a disgrace. He wasted no time politicizing a tragedy once again.

    “Once again…someone who wanted to inflict harm had no problem getting their hands on a gun”

  258. Wes says:

    Terri Land essentially walked away from the campaign trail in spring of last year, Wain. She likely would have won had she kept running the aggressive campaign she was conducting in late 2013 and early 2014. It’s hard to win though when one quits trying.

    Remember also, Republicans won all other statewide races despite an unexpectedly strong challenge to Rick Snyder. This suggests to me Michigan is potentially winnable with Obama underwater in favorability, thus providing a strong Republican a chance against a lackluster (to put it INCREDIBLY charitably) by Hillary Clinton.

  259. That Obama speech reminded me of why I’ve ignored them for so long now. Absolute prick. Everything to him is a political opportunity.

  260. Waingro says:

    More nonsense from the Demagogue in Chief:

    “This kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.”

  261. jason says:

    Tim Duncan claims he was ripped off for more than $20 million by a dishonest advisor over 9 years.

    I guess the silver lining is being wealthy enough that it would take you that long to notice.

  262. jason says:

    “This kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.”

    Nah, certainly not in Norway.

  263. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    270.“This kind of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.”

    Rwanda, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya, Bosnia, and many other places wholeheartedly agree.

  264. Wes says:

    Just out of curiosity, did Obama say the mass violence in Baltimore doesn’t happen in advanced countries?

  265. EML says:

    Charlie Hebdo must’ve happened in Somalia.

  266. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I guess its arguable whether or not Baltimore qualifies as an advanced country.

  267. Waingro says:

    So long as the perps are lovers of Allah, Barry probably doesn’t put them on the same level.

  268. lisab says:

    obamatrade passed

    what happened to the house gop?

  269. FWIW according to many NH Dem insiders seem to be thinking more and more Hassan will play it safe and NOT run for Senate. If true, BIG.

  270. Wes says:

    If Ayotte seeks reelection, Author, Hassan will be an underdog against the top recent votegetter in the state who’s an inoffensive incumbent and will be well funded. Also, Hillary isn’t going to provide the coattails Obama provided Shaheen in 2008, thus making a Senate run in 2016 a dicey prospect.

    If what you report is true, then Hassan may feel she’d be better off to wait for a more favorable year to seek a Senate seat.

  271. Waingro says:

    Compare the Demagogue in Chief’s remarks about the SC church shooting to these from Nikki Haley. All from the heart here.

  272. Mr.Vito says:

    “On Wednesday, a former member of the Obama administration hinted that Haley’s support for South Carolinian’s right to display the Confederate flag may be somehow connected to Wednesday’s deadly shooting.

    “In October, Gov. Nikki Haley defended flying the Confederate flag outside the South Carolina statehouse,” Brandon Friedman, the former deputy assistant secretary of public affairs at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, mentioned in a tweet.”

  273. Waingro says:

    #280, of course.

  274. Wes says:

    It used to be that the President comforted the country when a horrific occurrence like this happened.

    Roossevelt did it after Pearl Harbor.

    Reagan did it after the Challenger disaster.

    Clinton did it after Oklahoma City.

    Bush did it after 9/11.

    Obama missed his chance to try to comfort and soothe the nation after the Charleston mass killing.

    Governor Nikki Haley was left to express the grief Obama should have exhibited and worked to comfort the nation after that atrocity. A Governor did for the country what the current supercilious President failed to do.

    It just serves to remind me exactly why I resent Obama and his epic failure of a Presidency.

  275. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Wes, its stuff like that this that affirms the proposition that Obama only wishes to stir up racial strife and not see it lessened. Look at where race relations are today, June 18, 2015 compared to where they were even a decade ago?

  276. Walt says:

    21 yr old (IMO–mentally deranged) shooter.

    WTH would anyone give someone like that a gun for their birthday?
    Execute him?
    It is not PC to execute people who are mentally deranged.
    I say execute him anyway.

    Give his supposed racial spew as the “reason” for his killing 9 people, if convicted and sent to prison, how long would he last?

    How do we keep guns out of the hands of mentally incompetent and unstable people?

    IMO, the right of innocent people to live trumps the right of mentally defective people to own or have access to guns.

  277. lisab says:


    there are white gangs in prison

    he would be with them

  278. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    yeah, he was sane enough to say the things he said and to pull the trigger that many times, so he is sane enough to sit in the electric chair.

  279. Walt says:

    Terribly saddened by the senseless deaths of 9 fellow Americans by yet another deranged fool.

    And in church…so sad.

  280. Walt says:


    I doubt that would protect him.

    On another note, why do we allow the formation of gangs in prisons anyway?

  281. Wes says:

    The electric chair is too good for murdering bastards like him.

    I’m more partial to a blood eagle or a brazen bull.

    Let him suffer horribly for his crime in his death throes.

    That, or sever his spinal cord at the neck and give make him unable to do anything but sit and think about his crimes till he dies of natural causes.

  282. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Apparently the shooter said something like ‘You Rape Our Women And You’re Taking Over Our Country, You Have To Go’

    I guess Christians praying and studying their Bibles in church seemed like good candidates for rapists to this animal.

  283. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    289 – or death by spinning wheel. Google it if you don’t have a queasy stomach.

  284. Walt says:

    I say we did a better job of handling people with mental problems prior to the 1970s when we put them in institutions.

    In the 70s the psychiatric community felt we could close those facilities, turn loose these people on society and just give them medications to take to allow them to be ‘functional’. (and assume they would always take their daily meds)

    Hasn’t worked out very well.

  285. lisab says:


    as i understand it, most of the prisoners were usually in the gang before prison

  286. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I understand why Quinnipiac polled the party primary races in FL OH and PA, as they were polling the states for general election matchups anyway, but these polls are almost totally worthless, as none of these three states are before or on Super Tuesday. By the time these states vote the GOP race will be whittled down to only 3-5 candidates.

  287. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I don’t understand the NY Mets manager. Playing in Toronto allows him to pick a DH. They have three guys who can play left field. So it would make sense to pick two of the three with the best batting avg to start, one to play the field and the other to DH.

    So instead he picks the guy batting only .203 to play left field, the guy batting .263 to DH, and the guy hitting .273 to sit on the bench.

  288. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    while it is true that the two guys playing for the Mets are right handed batters, and the best hitting guy who is benched is a left handed batter, the Blue Jays are starting a RIGHT handed pitcher today.

  289. jason says:

    Making the rounds on the Internet:

    Hillary has taken on a Muslim name.

    Drum roll……

  290. jason says:


  291. @294 Agreed. Unless it’s IA/NH primary/caucus polling, I don’t care.

  292. jason says:

    “obamatrade passed

    what happened to the house gop?

    Comment by lisab — June 18, 2015 @ 1:57 pm”

    Hopefully they voted for it.

  293. lisab says:

    i thought the gop was against it

  294. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    299 – I would also take a SC poll, just to see how Lindsay Graham affects the results. He will probably finish 10th to 14th in both IA and NH, but no doubt will stay around for SC just to see what he can get.

  295. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    301 – that wasn’t very nice, calling Obama an ‘it’

  296. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I still cannot believe Obama said gun violence like this doesn’t happen in other countries. If a Republican president said something so stupid the media would hee-haw it for weeks.

  297. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    If Obama had even elementary knowledge of foreign affairs, he wouldn’t have said that. Not many years ago Liberia in Africa exploded into a civil war. Actually they had two civil wars. Men with shirts and ties, grabbed guns and starting slaughtering people. Upwards of half a million people died in the bloodshed, before they put down their guns, put their shirts and ties back on and went back to work. But Barack says 9 people killed with guns — nothing happens like that in other countries. Nah, just half a million in but one country among many examples that could be mentioned.

  298. jason says:

    “i thought the gop was against it

    Comment by lisab — June 18, 2015 @ 4:36 pm”

    No, it was the Democrats in the House that torpedoed it.

    Free trade has always been a banner of the GOP.

  299. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    here is a photo from the 2nd Liberian civil war…

    …take a hard look Mr. Obama…what’s that they got mounted there on their jeep? Could it be a gun? A really big one?

  300. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    O’Malley’s platform for the 2016 Dem nomination is the promise of zero fossil fuels by 2050. I guess the good news is I will be dead by then, but would hate the loss of freedom for the rest of the country, or what’s left of it by then. I just worry Hillary will stumble so badly that a nut like this could get the nomination.

  301. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope that murdering scumbag gets to share his views on black rapists in the general population. If he is alive in the morning, I will be very disappointed in the prisoners.

  302. Bitterlaw says:

    Visited Virginia Commonwealth University today. My son liked it. It felt more like a bunch of buildings thrown together than a campus. Of course, it is his choice on where he goes and not mine.

  303. Bitterlaw says:

    Richmond seems nice. Still hate its past but I like brick buildings.

    DW – Tell me about VCU. Good school?

  304. Mr.Vito says:

    You guys are missing the point… you silly willies. What he really is saying is that it should be questioned whether America is truly an advanced country… You know, like Obamatopia, that future country in his head that he rules with his mighty and blessed hand, and where nothing like this ever happens.

  305. Mr.Vito says:

    June 18, 2015 With the support of nearly 50 Democrats, the House passed legislation Thursday to repeal the medical device tax—a much-despised part of Obamacare.

  306. EML says:

    Continuing the recent trend of polls underestimating right wing support, the Danish blue bloc has defeated the left wing government and the anti-immigration, euroskeptic Danish People’s Party won the most seats for the majority.

  307. Wes says:

    It should be noted, however, EML even right-leaning European parties are generally to the left of the U.S. Democrats.

  308. Russ says:

    Nice to see a Michigan poll, courtesy of the Detroit News. All State offices here are GOP…but it’s a tough sell at the Presidential level. No R win since 1988, I believe. Not only is Rubio down to Hillary by only three points…he brings her support down to 42 percent. I think that is noteworthy, also.

  309. Bitterlaw says:

    I watched a show about the Klan the other day. I would not last long at their meetings. I would be laughing at their pathetic BS in the first 30 seconds.

  310. Wes says:

    More obsessed:

    Bunu with L. Ron Paul?


    Bitterlaw with antebellum and Lincoln-era America?

    I honestly can’t decide.

    Amazingly only one Southerner I know hasn’t gotten over the Confederacy’s defeat. For some strange reason, Bitterlaw can’t get over the fact that the North won.

  311. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Evil is always evil. No need to get over it. You know I view plantations as Auschwitz without gas chambers. Same result – people worked to death (just took longer on plantations). We all have our obsessions. You will never be over GWB.

  312. Cash Cow ™ says:


  313. Cash Cow ™ says:


    All the comments by “Cash Cow/Now Cow Bird” are in moderation.

    Must go back to just posting as “Cash Cow”…

  314. Wes says:

    Yet amazingly you never criticize Lincoln for specifically writing the Emancipation Proclamation to continue slavery in places where he could have freed slaves and have exactly zero criticism of modern-day slavery. (Spare me the inevitable weak BS condemnation of modern slavery I know you’re going to regale me with for calling you out on the obvious.)

    I understand, Bitter. You hate the South. Slavery just provides you an excuse for that hatred and helps you feel superior in your judgmental loathing of a whole section of your country. I’d respect you a lot more if you just admitted that rather than continually pretending moral superiority to justify petty hatred.

  315. Bitterlaw says:

    No, Wes, I do not like the South because of its evil history of slavery (and I hate Northerners who participated I it). When I stop seeing posts like “Slavery was evil BUT….” and stop seeing people flying a flag under which armies attacking the USA marched, I may be more favorably disposed. As for your idiotic argument that I can’t be critical because I don’t post about modern slavery, why do I have to post about modern slavery? I have condemned it and never used the phrase “modern slavery is evil BUT…” You love the South. I don’t. Apparently, in your world everybody has to agree with Wes the delicate flower.

  316. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I suspect you hate the Northeast part of the US. I’m cool with that. I don’t want your respect. You are an amoral predator of women. Not worthy of my consideration.

    Having said that, I hope you are feeling better and Tink is doing well.

  317. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Several days of posting under a new handle and nobody except me saw it…all that wisdom, insight, humor, anagram letter shuffling…and all for naught.

  318. Cash Cow ™ says:

    I bet Bitter does not even drink Southern Comfort.

  319. Bitterlaw says:

    Hal is obviously opposed to transpecies identity issues.

  320. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t drink at all. My family drank enough for the next three generations.

  321. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Approval of Obamacare Health Care:

    When it started it was 39 for, 48 against.
    It is now 42 to 52 against.

    Closest it ever got was 42 to 48.5 against.
    Average over last 6 years has been @ 40 for to 52 against.

    So majority of Americans never wanted it.
    Congress passed it anyway.
    During same time, majority of Americans has favor securing the border and stopping flow of illegal immigrants.
    Congress takes no action on that.

  322. Mr.Vito says:

    Dude planned this for six months?… And that’s what he came up with?… Must be retarded.

  323. Cash Cow ™ says:

    I think the shooter, Dylann Roof, had more than a few shingles missing.

  324. Mr.Vito says:

    DRUDGE: Humans will be extinct in 100 years says eminent scientist

    You know what? I don’t have a problem with that.

    Socks will live on forever anyway…

  325. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Mr. Vito sock,

    Guess it will just be me and you here on HHR after 2050.

  326. Mr.Vito says:

    Agreed. Humans are on their way out… look at Dondero.

  327. Cash Cow ™ says:


    When all the humans become extinct I think you have the fabric to be HHR Governor.

  328. Cash Cow ™ says:

    I guess if humans become extinct, that will please Pope Wackadoodle, since that will save the world from eco-destruction, global warming, etc.

  329. W. PA Observer says:

    Honestly I think stuff out of the historical examples of Foucault’s “Discipline and Punish” is still not enough for that swine.

    On the Civil War, I generally take Grant’s view of the war. I think Bitter doesn’t care to acknowledge the political and social realities of much of the country at the time – ie social pressure on people from various regions. An example of Southerners that stayed Union loyal were George Thomas (VA) and John Gibbon (NC). Gibbon’s division of Hancock’s Corps was the one that blasted Pickett’s out of existence at Gettysburg. Neither Thomas’s or Gibbon’s immediate or extended families ever spoke to them again- and they at least were professional soldiers that spent their adult lives in the Army away from home. Holding grudges against privates who’d never ventured more than a few miles from home for siding with that area, even for a bad cause, seems absurd. Different world, different perception even of space and your place in it.

  330. Bitterlaw says:

    Fine, WPA. There were some decent Southerners. As for the rest of them, fighting for the wrong side meant killing Americans. I’m sorry that bothers me. I guess they get a free pass even though they almost all volunteered to fight.

  331. Bitterlaw says:

    WPA – Am I allowed to condemn anything? Everything in the past was a different time with different perceptions. Hitler and Stalin were in the past. Are they exonerated or forgiven?

  332. Cash Cow ™ says:

    Flash forward three years from now:

    Bitter’s son comes home to Philly for the weekend from Virginia Commonwealth University:

    A. sporting a mullet hair cut
    B. driving a used pickup truck with a confederate flag license plate
    C. speaking with a southern drawl and saying things like “you reckon”
    D. to introduce mom and dad to his fiancee whose great, great, great grandfather was a slave owner who also fought for the confederacy.

  333. Wes says:

    Actually, Bitter, I don’t hate any part of the country. I don’t much care for the dogmatic left-wing political dominance of the West Coast, Upper Midwest, and much of the Northeast, but I don’t hate any part of the country or begrudge its existence.

    Slavery was wrong. I’ve never said otherwise.

    There. I said it.

    Unlike you, I didn’t focus just on slavery in one region of this country 150+ years ago when making that statement. All slavery is wrong, whether it exists in modern-day Africa and Asia orghad Lincoln’s allowance in the grossly misnamed Emancipation Proclamation or existed on a plantation in the United States before the 1860s or was a staple of the economies of ancient Greece and Rome. See, I didn’t declare southern slavery wrong and then make an excuse for why Lincoln kept it going in a document inaccurately called the Emancipation Proclamation–largely because unlike you, I don’t spend 90% of my time jerking off over how awesome Lincoln was and the other 10% pleasuring myself over how awesome GWB supposedly is.

    You are a vapid, supercilious, sanctimonious, hate-filled jackanapes with little real working knowledge of American history and a full plate of boilerplate platitudes and generalities you mindlessly but gleefully spout ad nauseam and ad infinitum. You’re also Godwin’s Law incarnate, which means you essentially destroy your own credibility whenever you get on your tangents discussing this subject.

    That said, your frequent shots at Bunu are laudable, and your legal knowledge is a boon to HHR.

    Thanks for the well wishing. I’m healing slowly but still have to be careful especially when performing deep-tissue massages or exercising to prevent overstressing the muscles damaged in the accident.

    Tink is fine too. She’s been taking it easy the last few months and is having no complications. Everything indicates the baby’s doing well. I can’t wait till he’s born.

  334. lisab says:

    “I bet Bitter does not even drink Southern Comfort.”

    i asked him once about it … when i was looking to try something new

    and he told me to stay away because it was an evil drink

  335. lisab says:

    so if bitterlaw is a jackanapes does that mean he will survive with the cow?

  336. lisab says:


    also, calling the pope “Pope Wackadoodle” is just a tad insensitive to catholics

    although i can see why you would be against his strong liberation theology tendencies


    his insistence on wearing white after labor day.

    i mean who does he think he is, coco chanel?

  337. jason says:

    Every amateur at the US Open beat Tiger. Painful.

  338. Bitterlaw says:

    I know history, Wes. You always go back to tge Emancipation Proclamation to allegedly prove Lincoln was a hypocrite but always ignore the 13th Amendment that he championed to end slavery in America.

  339. Ben Fiorina says:

    IA Primary:

    Scott Walker 19%
    Ben Carson 13%
    Jeb Bush 11%
    Marco Rubio 09%
    Mike Huckabee 08%
    Rick Perry 07%
    Ted Cruz 06%
    Rand Paul 05%
    Chris Christie 03%
    Carly Fiorina 03%
    Rick Santorum 02%
    Donald Trump 02%
    Lindsay Graham 02%
    Bobby Jindal 02%
    John Kasich 02%
    George Pataki 01%

  340. Bitterlaw says:

    On today’s march through the South, the Bitterlaws will visit James Madison U and George Mason U.

  341. Wes says:

    Actually, no, Bitter. You don’t.

    See, Bitter, I know Lincoln opposed slavery. I’ve read his writings from before his presidency and studied his voting record from his term in Congress. He was clearly opposed to slavery.

    That said, Lincoln was not the infallible god but a man and above all a politician. He understood how to be pragmatic to achieve at least part of what he wanted even if his actions as President more than once veered into unconstitutional territory and he was willing to throw people under the bus (those too poor to pay the fee to opt out ofthe draft and the slaves in all territories where the Emancipation Proclamation could actually grant freedom) under the bus to achieve his goals). You don’t want to hear this, I know, but as President, Lincoln was above all else a politician and engaged in acts typical of all politicians.

    Lincoln did advocate the 13th Amendment. That’s to his credit. He also imposed an unconstitutional income tax, established an early welfare system, and signed a bill letting those who could afford it (read: mostly able-bodied rich kids) pay money to avoid the draft and war service. This last by the way triggered a riot that killed a still undetermined number of people.

    On the other hand, Lincoln was magnanimous and gracious in victory and worked to reintegrate the South into the U.S. before Booth murdered him. That was a tragic occurrence, and Booth should have been publicly executed for his crime.

    See what I did there, Bitter?

    I actually gave an honest assessment of Lincoln, acknowledging both strengths and flaws. One disinclined to drink Kool-Aid and mindlessly spout talking points can do that. One whose sole purpose is to continually masturbate over a one-dimensional ideal of a man who has literally morphed into an infallible god in his mind can not.

  342. Michael says:

    The repeal of the medical device tax also has a 2/3 majority Mr. Vito.

    If the House has it the Senate hopefully has one as well. I wonder who would give the 67 votes to McConnell.

    King (I)

    These would be the most likely Senators to vote for the repeal.

  343. Don’t bother Wes. Bitter makes black/white assertions. Facts be damned.

  344. Reading Oren’s new memoir Ally, it’s clear that Israel has been on her own since the day Obama took office. Oren provides an inside account of relations between the administration of Barack Obama and the government of Bibi Netanyahu, and his thesis is overwhelming, authoritative, and damning: For the last six and a half years the president of the United States has treated the home of the Jewish people more like a rogue nation standing in the way of peace than a longtime democratic ally. Now the alliance is “in tatters.”

  345. Hassan has said often that she is undecided, but few, even in her own party, really believed her.

    Well, this could change, but at the moment, there is a sizable segment of top Democratic leaders who are getting the feeling that she will not try to move up and take on Ayotte, after all.

    Talk has centered on U.S. Rep. Ann Kuster or former U.S. Rep. Carol Shea-Porter running if Hassan does not. And that continues.

  346. I wonder why this guy can’t gain traction in GOP Primary Polls?

    The idea @JebBush @marcorubio & @RickSantorum espouse that @Pontifex has no standing on climate change is absurd. #climatechange

  347. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Bitter, VCU is OK I guess, maybe check out Christopher Newport U.

  348. Michael says:

    My cousin just graduated from VCU Bitter. She had a great time there, I saw her graduate. Depends on what he wants to major in.

  349. Waingro says:

    #354, Pataki lost me for good when he refused to go after the open senate seat in NY. He’s clearly a RINO egomaniac: this cycle’s Huntsman (at best). He has zero chance. If he cares so much about “Climate Change”, he should ask Barry for a job instead and get out of the primaries.

  350. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    I believe in Climate Change, I simply don’t embrace the idea that it’s man made.

    As George Carlin said (paraphrased)- It’s arrogant to assume we have control over the planet. The planet has survived worse than us. The planet is fine. It’s the people who are F’ed

  351. Bitterlaw says:

    James Madison U – pretty campus so far.

  352. Phil says:

    Pataki is another northeastern RINO. We’ve been dealing with these for years. When I was a college student I worked in the first Reagan campaign in 1976 when he came within about thirty delegate votes of wrestling the nomination away from Gerald Ford. NJ, Pa, NY, Connecticut delegations etc gave Ford the votes he needed to secure the nomination and go on to lose to Jimmy Carter. Honestly, in talking to some of the delegates from those states I have no idea what they were even doing in the GOP – Well, yeah I do. They were Chamber of Commerce types.

    Pataki can suck on the big one.

  353. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t know if people can change the planet. Maybe. Maybe not. Not ready to change my life over it.

  354. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    361 Nature itself has tremendous power to bring about geologic change, and sometimes pretty rapidly too. Look at the eruption of Mount St. Helens. A huge deposit of rocky material was laid down in layers, then it was partially washed out, leaving behind what looks like a smaller version of the grand canyon. If someone looked at that canyon today not knowing what the area looked like in 1979, they would assume that the canyon had been there a million years.

    Here in VA Beach there is a strip of sand extending inward from the mouth of the Chesapeake bay, and they have covered it will two and three story beach houses. A hurricane put that sand there 100+ years ago. Another one could take it away.

    What can man really change that lasts? Ancient man built the pyramids, Stonehenge, and a few other structures that have survived to this day in various stages of decay. No doubt many other things were built but now have no trace left that they ever existed.

    Yeah, the earth and nature is both more powerful than man, and eventually washes away the mark men left behind, just like the sand castle at the oceanfront. Sometimes it takes nature a little longer to wash away man’s mark, but it eventually does.

  355. Michael says:

    359 I had another cousin tour there and I have a friend that goes there. An excellent campus, they reconstructed the football stadium a few years ago.

  356. Michael says:

    Florida Senate

    Democratic Primary
    Murphy 34%
    Grayson 24%

  357. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    We could nuke this planet 15 times over and life would find a way. Probably not human life, but the planet would recover.

    Humans have the capacity to adapt. If sea levels do rise, we build levees, retaining walls, etc. Certain regions will hold, some regions will suffer, others will benefit. Life will go on.

    Having said that, Climate change is low on my list of concerns. Very low.

  358. soccer guru says:

    It is Climate, it changes.

    Has done throughout history, will keep doing so till end of time.

    We should be asking the climate mongers, “is there an optimal climate?”

    Climate Alarmism is nothing more than a pretext for control over your life.

    First it was Ice Age, then Global Warming, now Climate Change.

  359. jason says:

    I believe in climate change, considering that 10k years ago (a nanosecond in earth’s history) Central Park was under a sheet of ice and you could walk across the Bering Sea and the English Channel.

  360. jason says:

    “Climate change” is the ticket the Marxists have found to destroy the capitalist system after failing to do it at the ballot box.

    When your selling pitch is “we must all become socialists or the world will end” you don’t need elections.

  361. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    #370 – it seems that this is path we are heading down. It’s a shame.

  362. 2016 Presidential Primary Update
    Last Update: Friday, 06.19.2015
    Next Update: Next Friday Post Candidate Announcing
    Upcoming States: IA (02.01.2016), SC (02.09.2016)

    – GOP Primary
    National R Primary Poll Leader: Jeb Bush +1
    Current Projected R Nominee: Jeb Bush
    Chances Of Nomination: Absolute Tossup Race
    Mini-Analysis: Jeb starts out as a Candidate who can win the Nomination and at the borderline of the category of “Can win in the General” for me. He enters the Race ending Rubio’s streak of having small National leads in my board and finally stops Rand Paul’s dominance over New Hampshire, taking a lead there. He starts out as the new Projected GOP Nominee for my formula BUT barely so and his weak “frontrunner” status and close polling continues to tell me this is an Absolute Tossup Race that can see various Candidates have a real shot to be the nominee, Jeb among them.

    – Dem Primary
    National D Primary Poll Leader: Hillary Clinton +41
    Current Projected D Nominee: Hillary Clinton
    Chances Of Nomination: Likely Clinton Nomination
    Mini-Analysis: Hillary continues to be the likely winner in my opinion of the Dem Nomination and her leads Nationally and in IA/NH continue to be huge. However Bernie Sanders has continued to keep up momentum of late, cutting her lead Nationally down by almost 10 points and cutting her lead in NH down in half. He’s still a big underdog but it seems he, and not O’Malley, is becoming the early second choice alternative for Dems. That said, Hillary’s leads everywhere we’re tracking, her likely status as the winner, etc still has her Projected in my board as the next Democrat Nominee. She wishes she was this dominant in General Election polling.

  363. Bitterlaw says:

    After 3 tourrs, my son’s choices in order:

    James Madison

  364. Barrett - HHR Senator says:

    I don’t know much about those schools

    I received my Ungraduate at York College and my Masters at Towson University.

    Hoping to one day get my phD at University of Maryland

  365. Bitterlaw says:

    A PhD in what?

  366. lisab says:

    the best phd ever would be in philosophy

    so you could be a doctor of philosophy in philosophy

    then at academic conventions you could lord it over the other phd’s 🙂

  367. lisab says:

    it would not pay well, but i assume you would be philosophical about money

  368. lisab says:

    apparently graduate programs in philosophy are very competitive

    “it’s Extremely Competitive

    At U.C. Riverside (ranked 31 in the Philosophical Gourmet Report), we received about 200 applications last year, of which we admitted 24 (more than usual for us) for an entering class of 11. Students we admitted typically had GPAs of 3.8 or more, and most of them had virtually straight A’s (that is, almost no A-minuses) in their upper-division philosophy classes by senior year, if they were applying as undergraduates. Of our entering class of 11 students, four had perfect 4.0 GPAs in their last enrolled institution (whether undergrad or MA).

    To get into the top-ranked philosophy departments is considerably more difficult than to get into UCR. To my knowledge no UCR undergraduate has ever been admitted to a top-15 philosophy Ph.D. program (certainly not in the 10 years I’ve been here), though we’ve had some students with straight A’s, very strong letters, and excellent writing samples. When I was a student at Berkeley, it seemed that almost all my classmates were from top universities (Harvard, Princeton) or renowned liberal arts colleges (Amherst, Swarthmore). The few who weren’t from such name-brand institutions seemed to have done time at such colleges (a classmate from Northeastern, for example, had spent a year at Oxford and had letters from professors there). I don’t want to suggest that it’s impossible for a student from a middle-tier school to get into a top Ph.D. program, but the odds appear to be long even if you’re valedictorian.

    When I applied to graduate school in 1991, I had literally straight-A’s from Stanford (except for an A- and a B+ my very first term and one A- later) with a liberal sprinking of A+’s (one semester I took four courses and received four A+’s), very strong GREs (800/790/750, back when it had three sections), what seems to me now in retrospect to be a good writing sample, and letters from leading philosophers (Fred Dretske, John Dupre, and P.J. Ivanhoe) one of whom later invited me to contribute to an anthology based on one of my undergraduate essays (and so presumably wrote a strong letter). I was not admitted to Harvard.” Eric Schwitzgebel

  369. LukeDukeNC says:

    This NC man, is pulling for Rubio!! Hillary will lose NC, because of her overly lefty social views and policies.

  370. Michael says:

    Well if Obama thinks it belongs in a Museum then he should do something about it. Otherwise he can just quit complaining.

  371. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Early onset dementia?

    At least that’s what the media might suggest if it was the GOP frontrunner for the nomination.

  372. @381 Ralston has been throwing a fit about this on Twitter

  373. NRSC has $2M in debt and DSCC is$16.4M in debt

  374. Wes says:

    That’s good for the NRSC, Author. Getting flush with cash to spend in competitive races is easier when one political group’s debt is less than its opponent’s.

  375. Cash Cow ™ says:


    If your son chooses Lafayette,
    Then when you go there to enroll him you can say:

    “Lafayette, we are here.”

  376. Bitterlaw says:

    Cash Cow – If he went there, he would be the third generation to attend. My Dad and I are both alumni. It would be cool and expemsive.

  377. Michael says:

    Bitter if he goes to VCU maybe I could visit! Becoming a rowdy ram is also a bit deal when it comes to getting basketball tickets.

  378. Michael says:


  379. W. PA Observer says:

    JMU’s campus (and Harrisonburg/Rockingham County) is gorgeous. Definitely in the Virginia portion of Virginia. GMU is quite nice considering it’s smack dab in Fairfax, but getting to DC from there is a bit of a chore- it’s alleged “metro station” is miles away.