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Clinton Leads Sanders By 34% in IA, Bush Leads Clinton in MI

Despite Public Policy Polling showing Bernie Sanders now ahead of Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, Suffolk University shows she is still strong in Iowa.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (Suffolk)
Hillary CLinton 54%
Bernie Sanders 20%
Joe Biden 11%
Martin O’Malley 4%
Jim Webb 1%
Lincoln Chafee 0%

This poll was done August 20-24 among 500 likely voters. Meanwhile in Michigan, we have a new poll from EPIC-MRA that shows Jeb Bush ahead of Hillary Clinton.

PRESIDENT – MICHIGAN (EPC-MRA)
Jeb Bush (R) 45%
Hillary Clinton (D) 40%

Hillary Clinton (D) 44%
Donald Trump (R) 425

This poll was done August 18-22 among 600 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 12:38 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (239)

239 Responses to “Clinton Leads Sanders By 34% in IA, Bush Leads Clinton in MI”

  1. Robbie says:

    The dichotomy between how certain candidates do in the primary and how they do in the general is quite striking at this point.

  2. EML says:

    It is more apparent to me every day that many of the people here value political experience more than anything else. Ideas and non-political work experience are total after-thoughts, or not even thought about.
    ==============================
    Because Ideas and “non-political work experience” is not what being President is about. The job of the Presidency is to be Chief Executive, to execute the laws of this country as passed by Congress. Just having ideas does not make one Presidential. A President has to have experience directing large organizations (be they private or governmental), executing a massive budget, and negotiating conflict resolutions (amongst other things). We currently have a President who is incapable of any of that, and his resume beforehand showed he had no qualifications to be President. Look how that turned out for us. Let’s not make the same mistake on our side.

  3. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    A month ago, the Mets were in desperate need of a big bat in their line-up. Why is it they added Yoenis Cespedes to their lineup instead of Ben Carson?

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    126.NYC – Perhaps I misinterpreted all of this as an endorsement:

    Healthcare spending is one area where a surgeon/doctor might be better qualified to speak out and create policy than a lawyer/politician.

    The surgeon/doctor who grew up in impoverished neighborhoods may also be better qualified to present different policy ideas when it comes to education.

    Comment by NYCmike

    Sorry if I unfairly attributed a “SHOULD.”

  5. janz says:

    Bitter, What people see in a Carson candidacy is someone who is smart, strong-minded in what he does, and who exercises integrity in his decisions.

    Whether or not this is enough to off-set someone who has spent most of his/her time in government employment, remains to be seen. However, seeing that government is such a mess right now, people are looking outside the box for something else that is less disquieting than what Obama has offered.

  6. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – Dr. Carson is a brilliant surgeon and qualified to be President. I have no doubt that he can hit a curve ball for the Mets.

  7. Bitterlaw says:

    5. Janz – It sounds like that is what you see in Carson. That is fine. I do not think that his skills transfer to the Presidency any more than Obama’s did. We just disagree,

  8. Bitterlaw says:

    7 (don’t tell NYC I put qualified in there just to F with him)

  9. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    7 – exactly. The Mets had tried all year to find a bat, but to no avail. It was time for them to think outside the box, so a slugger like Ben Carson should have been just the ticket.

    Instead they settled for Cespedes. They moved from a .500 team to a team 11 games over .500, but if they had gone with Carson, they would be 20 games over by now.

  10. janz says:

    Why is it they added Yoenis Cespedes to their lineup instead of Ben Carson?

    Comparing one’s athletic skill to one’s temperament, intelligence, management and organization skills is not the same thing. For instance I am good at organizing things. I was that way as an RN being in charge of a medical-surg floor, as a business woman, Mom, volunteer at school etc. IOW, mental skills are adaptable to many equivalent environments.

  11. janz says:

    Bitter,

    Enough said on agreeing to disagree.

  12. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    After hitting all those curveballs, Carson could have helped administrate Manager Terry Collins’ line up card, in addition to helping out with other areas that needed his talents. In fact, he could be on standby for paternity leaves for other players, just in case their wives give birth to conjoined twins.

  13. Mr.Vito says:

    I am one of the only ones here who said Carson should be part of the debate. I hoped to hear some substantive dialogue on policy questions, but he looked like a deer in headlights until his closing, which is usually rehearsed. Maybe he will do better next time.

  14. NYCmike says:

    I’ll let janz handle this one, except to say DW, that was a ridiculous argument.

  15. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m not sure that I agree with that, janz.

  16. Mr.Vito says:

    I am sure most people have some skills that would be desirable in a President.

  17. Michael says:

    Kasich is racking up endorsements.

  18. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Seriously, the problem with Carson is we don’t know his skills at all, outside of separating conjoined twins. Some doctors I have known were complete featherbrains as to administrative details…forgetting to tell you what your next step is, and so on. I recall a relative once who had a bad leg injury and ended up limping from the ER back to the car because the doc forgot to issue crutches.

    Being a doc had no more correlation to being president than being the #4 hitter in the Mets lineup.

  19. Bitterlaw says:

    Hmmmmm. Both Jason and janz do not capitalize their “J.” Is jason going to be on the cover of Vanity Fair soon? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  20. NYCmike says:

    Judging by the reactions and the reasoning of many here, we should hope for Bush/Clinton, Bush/Biden, or Bush/Any Kennedy.

    George P, your time is coming soon. He has already run his first campaign, hasn’t he?

  21. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    oh I agree its good to have Carson be part of the process. I have no problem with that, and I do affirm that so far as I know, he is legally eligible to run. That doesn’t make him qualified.

  22. Bitterlaw says:

    Being a doc had no more correlation to being president than being the #4 hitter in the Mets lineup.

    NYC is correct. it was a ridiculous argument. Carson should be the leadoff hitter and not bat 4th.

  23. Mr.Vito says:

    suddenly the word should is no bid deal…

  24. NYCmike says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_P._Bush

    -YES, he is a politician!

    Can we say Bush2028!?

  25. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    23 – true, I forgot that at age 61, Carson’s speed at the top of the line-up shouldn’t be ignored, and in truth, the Mets have needed a true leadoff hitter all year long.

  26. Mr.Vito says:

    Carson is as qualified to be President as Trump.

    That sounds like a statement we can all agree with.

  27. MD says:

    Carson is eligible to be POTUS. Is he really qualified? Of course not. However, that didn’t stop Obama from running so I don’t think it should stop Carson. He won’t win the nomination anyway.

    BTW – Donald called Kelly a bimbo? Why? People love it though. Clearly, he is Bay’s man.

  28. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 25, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    Being a doc had no more correlation to being president than being the #4 hitter in the Mets lineup.

    -Ok, so I was right. They haven’t checked out his bio, they didn’t read what janz wrote….

  29. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    I do feel a bit different about Carly Fiorina. At least she was an executive over a large corporation and at least has the minimal threshold of having run (but lost) in a race for US senate. So for her, I would say she appears to be minimally qualified, maybe just barely qualified, though I would want to examine her tenure at HP to see how she did at the executive position.

    But Carson has none of that. We don’t know if he totally relies on his staff for administrative details, as many docs are known to do.

  30. MD says:

    25 – You are about 4 years behind on that.

  31. Bitterlaw says:

    I think NYC has this idea that Carson will make the Cabinet and leaders of Congress stand around a table while he issues orders:

    Ok. We are separating the bad budget items from the good budget items. Scalpel.

    We don’t have a line item veto.

    Don’t tell me what we don’t have. Get me …

  32. MD says:

    The nation voted for a guy who was 6 years removed from being a community organizer so I guess anything is possible.

  33. MD says:

    Trump is an embarrassment.

  34. NYCmike says:

    “Is he really qualified? Of course not.”

    -So it is written, so it is settled.

  35. Mr.Vito says:

    He is perfectly qualified.

  36. janz says:

    I’m not sure that I agree with that, janz.

    I understand that, Bitter. However, my core beliefs are based on seeing a direct correlation of what a person can accomplish with the underpinnings of the values and principles exercised in their own lives.

    IOW, if someone is superficial, or only geared for their own self-interest, that says a lot to me about their potential for service to others, let alone as POTUS. The opposite holds true as well… This is not necessarily a blind endorsement of Carson. It’s more a “give him a chance to fade or flourish” without all the pre-judgments.

  37. Bitterlaw says:

    29 I love how NYC combines me quoting DW (post 19) but leaves out what I typed. Whatever. Not even Dr. Carson could bring Bronxie back now.

  38. NYCmike says:

    MD says:
    August 25, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    “25 – You are about 4 years behind on that.”

    -Ok, I’ll take your word for it. (hee hee)

    (from the link above)

    Bush took office on January 2, 2015.[38]

  39. MD says:

    35 – I said he could still run. Being qualified doesn’t seem to matter anymore. I would gladly vote for Carson. Only Paul doesn’t get my vote. With Donald’s latest idiocy (where he sounds very much like a Dem), I may have to abstain on him as well. The others would all get my vote including Carson who I admire. I also admire Mike Schmidt. That doesn’t mean he is qualified to be POTUS.

  40. MD says:

    39 – He has been in politics that long.

  41. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    32 – one of the best comedy skits of all time was the early Three Stooges short where they were doctors who graduated with the highest temperatures in their class. They ended up performing an operation at the end of the picture. Moe tries to organize all the tools, calls for an ‘ana-cana-pooner’ Larry hands him a tool saying ‘ana-cana-panner’. Moe angrily hands it back, ‘NO–ana-cana-POONER’

  42. Mr.Vito says:

    38 he didn’t use quotes so it’s okay…

  43. janz says:

    My husband is rotating tires on the car. Gotta go and apply some of my supportive automotive skills to the project!

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    44 – Congratulations, janz. NYC now thinks you are qualified to be President.

  45. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    “I also admire Mike Schmidt. That doesn’t mean he is qualified to be POTUS.”

    Maybe Yoenis Cespedes should run for POTUS. After all, he almost single-handedly gained 8 games on the Nats since joining the Mets. That can’t be much harder than separating conjoined twins. Rats, I just checked and he was born in Cuba. There goes our shot at the general election. Wait, let me check to see if he was born on the base in Guatanamo Bay….

  46. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Maybe I should run for POTUS.

    DW working on the budget…

    Lets see, this is all Greek to me…but wait! I KNOW Greek! Give me the biggest veto pen you can find!

    See, I am qualified!

  47. MD says:

    Perhaps David Wright. His first AB back and he basically hits it to the moon. It figures. I start bragging about the Phils and the Mets windup doing something historic. Of course, throwing straight fastballs in the middle of the plate to big league hitters over and over again might result in something bad.

  48. MD says:

    I know finance and economics way better than Obama. I could run?

  49. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    49 – yeah, that was insane last night. I was ready to give up on that game, but in the end, Mets parked 8 balls, a team record, along with 15 extra base hits, another team record.

  50. Bitterlaw says:

    I watch The Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead, and Naked & Afraid. Plenty of survival skills are taught on those shows. I am also qualified to be President.

  51. Bitterlaw says:

    Valuable lessons from Naked & Afraid:

    You need to make fire soon

    You need a really big knife/machete

    You need something to carry and hold water (boil to purify)

    After that, make something to protect your feet.

  52. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Lets play, “Name this picture”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html

    The only word that comes to mind is:

    COLLAPSE!

  53. zorkpolitics says:

    Looking at Bush’s lead over Hillary in MI I wonder if voters look at Trump and realize Jeb would be the better President, so in fact Trumpmania may be helping Jeb?

  54. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    just a couple of months ago Hillary led NH by about 37 points. That lead is GONE. Sanders +1 RCP average.

  55. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    its been a full week now since any new national GOP primary poll has been released.

  56. Corey says:

    If Ben Carson were white, I do not think many people here would have ever heard of him.

    There, I said it.

  57. Corey says:

    For any political junkies out there, I know some have said that they buy and enjoy “The Almanac of American Politics” book.

    For the past 20 years, I have purchased “Politics in America”, every two years, published by CQ and now CQ/Roll Call. To my great disappointment, it looks like that publication is now only going to be available in an online format.

    Would switching over to “The Almanac of American Politics” be something worthwhile? It looks like it does not get published until October. Is it found in stores or is it something you can only order online?

  58. jason says:

    The problem may be that you think I am trying to convey an idea different than the one I am actually writing about.”

    That’s a problem, yes.

    However, since almost everyone here has the same view about what you write, I think the problem is with you.

    Just saying…

  59. jason says:

    53. You should practice eating lizards, cockroaches and grasshoppers in advance.

  60. Corey says:

    “Naked and Afraid” could be an Election Night segment on CBC where Cory discusses the Canadian results.

  61. jason says:

    Sorry janz, that’s all very nice stuff about Carson but NONE of it qualifies him to be President. It solidifies my view that he is an accomplished and decent guy, but does nothing to my view that he is completely unqualified.

    The Presidency IS a political job, no way getting around it. Lack of political experience might sound attractive, wow, he is an “outsider” but it’s not a good thing.

    But the reason I put Carson in the clown car, even though he is not a clown like Paul or Trump, is that he cannot win.

    Even if he is unqualified, I would prefer him over any of the Democrats.

  62. Mr.Vito says:

    63 YYYYYYYES!

  63. jason says:

    “If you compare Carson to any Democrat,”

    Actually, Hillary, Biden, Sanders and O’Malley are all more qualified than Carson. It’s not even close. You don’t have to agree with their policies or agenda to say they are qualified.

    Which Democrat are you referring to?

  64. Corey says:

    @DonaldTrump- “Ben Carson knows about medicine. It’s very admirable, but he has never run a company and knows nothing about politics. I guess people like his smile but there’s no way that any woman in Iowa or South Carolina is going to support him unless the Kardashians all move there.”

  65. jason says:

    One constituency at a time.

    Brain surgeons, Kardashians.

  66. justsayin says:

    To be qualified is very easy:

    a presidential candidate must be at least 35 years old, a natural-born U.S. citizen, and have at least 14 years of residence in the United States

  67. jason says:

    “, and knows nothing about politics”

    Hello?

  68. jason says:

    69. No, that is eligible.

  69. justsayin says:

    Hello?

    “, and knows nothing about politics”

    that’s not a qualification… and is not in the constitution.

  70. jason says:

    Qualified and eligible are used interchangeably, yes, but in this discussion “qualified” means “apt” or “prepared” rather than “can he run”.

  71. justsayin says:

    also… you only need to have good smart people around you… which Obama does not… to be a successful President. However my choice is Rubio.

  72. jason says:

    “that’s not a qualification… and is not in the constitution.”

    You mean its not a requirement.

    Sighhh…..

  73. Mr.Vito says:

    There are plenty of qualified people who are ineligible.

  74. NYCmike says:

    http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html
    http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/2/essays/82/presidential-eligibility

    -It is interesting. I said earlier that jason was right, that eligible was the proper word.

    But, it seems like the 2 words are both used at the same time, as in “qualifications to be eligible”.

    It looks like we may have both been correct.

  75. MD says:

    69 – that is eligible

  76. Corey says:

    I’m so aggravated at CQ Press. How do they stop publishing hard copies of books?

    I really need someone to sell me on “The Almanac of American Politics” now.

  77. Greymarch says:

    If Ailes finally goes anti-Trump, Fox News cant cut into Trump’s immutable 25%, but FNC can keep Trump from gaining more followers.

    The true power FNC has is with the other candidates. If FNC begins leaning towards a few candidates, or even one candidate after most have dropped out, Trump is absolutely screwed.

  78. jason says:

    “you only need to have good smart people around you…”

    Very good.

    And why don’t you think Obama has good people?

    Why did he pick incompetents?

  79. Corey says:

    “qualified” can have different meanings just like “respect” can.

  80. MD says:

    Whatever. Of all the pointless arguments here (which I am as guilty of as anyone), this is the most pointless. Except for Cutler. He sucks.

  81. NYCmike says:

    #73 – I do not remember you asking me how I used the word in that discussion earlier.

  82. jason says:

    78. Hey MD see 71. Great minds think alike…

  83. jason says:

    “I do not remember you asking me how I used the word in that discussion earlier.”

    Yeah, that’s how I roll.

    I don’t ask morons how they use their words.

  84. NYCmike says:

    You need to meet the qualifications to be eligible.

  85. jason says:

    “qualifications to be eligible”.

    That’s still different from “qualification to be President”.

    But its time to move on.

    Carson is not qualified. He is eligible however.

  86. jason says:

    “qualifications to be eligible”.

    As Corey said, qualification has several meanings.

    In “qualifications to be eligible” it could be replaced by “requirements”.

  87. Waingro says:

    Ace of Spades – by no means a “deadender” – absolutely nails the Donald Trump situation.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/358676.php

  88. NYCmike says:

    “Carson is not qualified.”

    -Yet he meets the qualifications, and is in the top 5 in the polls.

    Dare I say it makes for a good story!

  89. Corey says:

    The Almanac of American Politics will work just fine, now that I have looked into what it includes. I just have to wait until October though.

  90. Corey says:

    NYC, I thought you were for Christie.

  91. NYCmike says:

    I am at this point.

    Why?

  92. Corey says:

    Why is Ben Carson arousing such a passion from within?

  93. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Jason, I don’t put Carson in the clown car…but I can totally understand why you do. I have a category of “Adds value to the process” which means the candidate cannot win, but the GOP benefits from having the candidate be part of the process. I have both Carson and Fiorina in this category. They help give the GOP an authentically diverse look.

    DEM candidates:

    White.

    Old.

    Male, Female.

    Career Politicians.

    GOP candidates:

    White, Black, Asian, Hispanic.

    Old, young.

    Male, Female.

    Career politicians, doctors, business executives.

  94. NYCmike says:

    I don’t think a person who is accomplished as he is should be marginalized in the primary process because of lack of political experience.

    I believe it is easier to become a politician after being a brain surgeon than it is to become a brain surgeon after being a politician .

  95. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    88 – exactly. As I said earlier, Ben Carson is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

  96. NYCmike says:

    “I believe it is easier to become a politician after being a (fill in the blanks) than it is to become a (fill in the blanks) after being a politician .

  97. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    C

  98. MD says:

    90 – he summed it up nicely.

  99. Mr.Vito says:

    You guys are funny… Eligible and qualified can both be used in each sense you want it to….

    For example, you can be more qualified for a position or the most eligible bachelor.

    In the sense of connotation, you can be qualified and not eligible or eligible and not qualified.

    Eligible comes from the root of selecting or choosing and qualified comes from the root of being instilled with quality or refined… Like when you qualify a phrase.

  100. NYCmike says:

    “88 – exactly. As I said earlier, Marco Rubio is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

    88 – exactly. As I said earlier, John Kasich is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

    88 – exactly. As I said earlier, Chris Christie is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

  101. Corey says:

    Chris Christie is in better shape than Bartolo Colon.

  102. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    103 – Chris Christie probably doesn’t pass the team physical exam.

  103. MD says:

    Robbie’s q to remind me that I said Christie was the logical choice in early 2014. Also, since Kasich has been mentioned, it is time for his homophobic rant about him as well.

  104. NYCmike says:

    Corey,

    The Boomer & Carton show just had a charity softball game. Christie played. I hope he didn’t wear his uniform the way he usually wears his pants.

  105. NYCmike says:

    88 – exactly. As I said earlier, Mitt Romney is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

    88 – exactly. As I said earlier, Joe Biden is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

    88 – exactly. As I said earlier, Ronald Reagan is eligible to be the Mets leadoff hitter (assuming he passes the mandatory drug testing); but he is not qualified.

  106. Corey says:

    Bill Maher is an owner of the Mets. How can anyone root for them?

  107. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    108 – Reagan is no longer eligible, because to be the Mets leadoff hitter, you have to be alive.

  108. Corey says:

    Actually, I believe Joe Biden is banned from MLB due to an on field 1976 incident when he groped the Philly Phanatic’s wife.

  109. Corey says:

    Reagan would never hit leadoff for the Mets, but he was once a broadcaster for the Cubs!

  110. NYCmike says:

    “108 – Reagan is no longer eligible, because to be the Mets leadoff hitter, you have to be alive.

    -Alive? Are you sure? Did you see the Phillies pitching staff last night?

  111. Bitterlaw says:

    109.Bill Maher is an owner of the Mets. How can anyone root for them?

    Maybe the same way that somebody could worship Cutler after his 2008 fundraiser appearance on behalf of Obama. Separation of Sports and State is vital to our nation.

  112. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    113 – I did. Yeah, that was something.

    I have seen teams with a five run early lead cause pitchers to get out of the right mind-set…they go out there and think, just don’t walk anybody, throw strikes, and don’t give up the big inning. If someone gets a solo shot, who cares, I have a five run lead.

    But after three or four home runs hit off batting practice pitches, one would have thought they would have buckled down, but I guess not. Not even after yielding seven more homers.

  113. Corey says:

    I don’t “worship” Cutler, but I disagree he played an active part in an Obama fundraiser.

    Maher gave Obama a million dollars.

  114. Corey says:

    Jeb Bush’s great-uncle used to be an owner of the Mets.

  115. NYCmike says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/curt-schilling-sends-out-insensitive-tweet–deletes-it-minutes-later-161325060.html

    -Does anyone know what the tweet said? Why did he apologize? While they have not reached Hitler/Stalin/Mao levels of destruction, mayhem, and murder yet, extremist Muslims will try their best to get there.

    He must still need the money after going bankrupt.

  116. Bitterlaw says:

    116 Do you deny that he was there in 2008, Corey. Please don’t whine about 2012.

  117. Corey says:

    Curt Schilling said his bloody sock from the 2004 World Series was the result of Megyn Kelly…

  118. MD says:

    118 – Give them just a little more time. Then, maybe we will wake up to the danger they represent. Probably not though.

    Saudi Arabia is in for a world of hurt very soon.

  119. Corey says:

    Yes, I deny that Jay Cutler ever even met Barack Obama in 2008.

    That rocket scientist JT was wrong about a lot.

  120. MD says:

    120 – That’s sick.

  121. MD says:

    BTW – Megyn Kelly (who I am not a huge fan of for the record) has handled herself with class. She has refused to take the bait from Trump. Ailes is right to finally defend her. Maybe Hannity will stop kissing his butt now.

  122. Corey says:

    If my humor is not too sick, even for HHR, I think I deserve some points.

  123. Corey says:

    now*

  124. Robbie says:

    80.If Ailes finally goes anti-Trump, Fox News cant cut into Trump’s immutable 25%, but FNC can keep Trump from gaining more followers.

    The true power FNC has is with the other candidates. If FNC begins leaning towards a few candidates, or even one candidate after most have dropped out, Trump is absolutely screwed.

    Comment by Greymarch — August 25, 2015 @ 2:31 pm

    I’m not so sure Fox and Ailes are going to go to war with Trump. The statement he released, at least to me, seems to be geared more towards defending Kelly, which he hadn’t really done, than attacking Trump.

    Honestly, Trump has cultivated close relationships with O’Reilly, Greta, Hannity, and Dobbs. Are they suddenly going to stop talking about him or allowing him to call into their shows for an interview when it clearly helps their ratings? I doubt it.

    My guess is by the end of this week or the start of next week, Trump will be back to appearing on or calling into two to three Fox shows a day.

    FoxNews and Roger Ailes created this mess by turning the network over to Trump for ratings. Now, they’re having trouble containing it.

  125. Corey says:

    Is Lou Dobbs really on Fox?

  126. Mr.Vito says:

    Dow is barely above water now for the day… For those who care.

  127. Robbie says:

    128.Is Lou Dobbs really on Fox?

    Comment by Corey — August 25, 2015 @ 3:37 pm

    Fox Business Network. He has an hour long show that starts at 7 PM. It has become a Trump-centric show.

  128. Robbie says:

    Also, since Kasich has been mentioned, it is time for his homophobic rant about him as well.

    Comment by MD — August 25, 2015 @ 3:07 pm

    This comment is not fair.

    I have not made a homophobic rant against Kasich. I have said, among other things, I don’t appreciate his moralizing about expanding Medicade under Obamacare and I don’t know how it helps, in a primary composed of mostly conservatives, to talking glowingly about attending a gay wedding, especially in his first exposure to a large audience.

    If that qualifies as a homophobic rant, then I need to relearn what rant means.

  129. NYCmike says:

    I keep telling people to buy the HHR dictionary.

  130. Mr.Vito says:

    Dow down almost 100 now…. For those who care. 13 minutes left.

  131. Mr.Vito says:

    All three averages have gone negative…. For those who care. 9 minutes left.

  132. Mr.Vito says:

    Rally hats on…. 5 minutes.

  133. Bitterlaw says:

    I need to relearn what rant means.

    Ask Wes about George W. Bush

    Tell jason that drinking and driving is always bad

    Ask me about Robert E. Lee

    You will see rants in action

  134. Mr.Vito says:

    Engine blown… Mayday! mayday!… 3 minutes

  135. Mr.Vito says:

    Lost number two engine…. 1 minute.

  136. Mr.Vito says:

    LOOK OUT BELOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

  137. Corey says:

    I don’t know if he talked “glowingly” about it. He didn’t reference the centerpieces or the awesome way the band covered the Village People.

  138. Mr.Vito says:

    KAAAAAABOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

    -205

  139. Corey says:

    Wasn’t the Dow supposed to finish up today?

  140. MD says:

    Not necessarily Corey. In volatile markets late selling is common.

  141. Mr.Vito says:

    “Wasn’t the Dow supposed to finish up today?”

    KAAAAAAAAAABLOOOOOOOOOEYYYYYYY!

  142. Robbie says:

    140.I don’t know if he talked “glowingly” about it. He didn’t reference the centerpieces or the awesome way the band covered the Village People.

    Comment by Corey — August 25, 2015 @ 3:59 pm

    Fair enough.

    I retract the use of “glowingly”.

  143. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    143 – yep, I suppose there are people who jumped in, bought up some cheap bargins, then sold them later in the day for a gain.

  144. Corey says:

    I refuse to enter the stock market until a Republican is President.

  145. WTF was that?! The stock market starts out with big gains and suddenly ends -204

  146. Corey says:

    I like that the name of the EPIC-MRA President would not make it through the filter.

  147. Corey says:

    I thought my last name was bad..

  148. MD says:

    I got in today at the end. The market PE fell below 19 TTM. I am still about 6.5 percent protective. Waiting on the international markets. Even with fair market value adjustments, still probably an up day. Most likely will be able to buy in tomorrow and then be 5 percent protective. The next trigger is at 17.

  149. MD says:

    147

    Good thing you didn’t have any money during GWB’s years. You would have lost big.

  150. MD says:

    Author – if you are in a 401k, then, at your age, you should root for a down market.

  151. Corey says:

    “The next trigger is at 17.”

    FBI Post of the Day

  152. MD says:

    Buy signal. Happy now?

    BTW – you young guys should be sticking to your regular dollar cost averaging investments. This is nothing but noise.

  153. MD says:

    The older people here (40 and above) have to think differently.

  154. Corey says:

    I should sign up for my company’s 401K, being that I have been here for two years.

    It’s just the only other time I did that, I literally lost the job the next week.

  155. MD says:

    Corey – if your company has a match, then you are giving away a free 10 to 50 percent return depending on the formula. I suspect you are in your early 30’s. You should start thinking about it.

  156. MD says:

    BTW – I am reading a lot of junk about this being an irrational market. Absolutely not true. The market is overvalued and earnings and productivity no longer justify the valuations. The way down is always an elevator while the way up is a stair step. It has been that way forever.

  157. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    The sooner one starts, the better…the laws of compounding principal work best the longer they work.

  158. jason says:

    ” to talking glowingly about attending a gay wedding, especially in his first exposure to a large audience.”

    Kasich did not “speak glowingly” of a gay wedding, in response to a direct question on whether he would still support his daughter if she was gay he stated that having a different view does not keep you from loving your daughter or attending the wedding of a friend.

    How is it different than this answer by Hillary-lite?

    “Sure I would,” Bush said when asked during an interview on ABC’s “World News Tonight” if he would be willing to witness a gay wedding ceremony like his father, former President George H.W. Bush, did in Maine in 2013.

    “I would if they were friends and I cared for them, of course I would,” the former Florida governor said.”

    Is that glowingly?

  159. Corey says:

    They don’t match.

  160. MD says:

    DW – here is something I told my cousins daughter who is a fashion model (and student) and makes a ton of $. She spends too much. At age 25, she could really set herself up.

    I told her that if she invests 5000 a year for the next 10 years, then stops ( earning 7% per year), she would have more at age 65 than someone who waited until age 35 and invested 5K for 30 years at 7 percent.

    It worked. She puts $400 a month into an IRA and just considers it to be another bill.

  161. MD says:

    162 – thus, the hypocrisy of Robbie.

  162. Cory says:

    Majority of Republicans would attend a loved one’s gay wedding:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/29/us-usa-politics-gaymarriage-idUSKBN0NK15W20150429

  163. Corey says:

    How many candidates would be willing to attend the baptism of an anchor baby at the border?

  164. Cory says:

    By the way, Corey has had a few good lines here today.

    #63 was inspired.

  165. MD says:

    Cory – so what?

  166. MD says:

    63 – I am sure he felt that way watching the liberal party be completely destroyed. By now, he is probably a NDP guy.

  167. Bitterlaw says:

    My firm does not match 401k beyond $3k a year. I do not have a 401k so we have my wife put more in hers. I’m a diabetic. Very little chance I will live to retire..

  168. MD says:

    169 was in reference to 166

  169. Reminder: Poll for HHR’s 2016 GOP Preference is still ongoing, make sure to rep your current #1 choice. Secret ballot, can be honest and silent about your current support.

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JYMZTS9

  170. Bitterlaw says:

    167.How many candidates would be willing to attend the baptism of an anchor baby at the border?

    I’m not a candidate but I would without hesitation.

  171. MD says:

    171 – you have been saying that for 10 years here. You will outlive us all.

    You are really giving up a free $3,000? Despite trading me about being wealthy (greatly exaggerated), you must be the one with money.

  172. Corey says:

    The border of Pennsylvania and New York? I can’t see you traveling far for a Baptism or a Bris.

  173. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    164 – excellent advice. I recall attending a investment seminar when newly married back in the mid 90s. The guy told us if he had taken all the money he spent on college and instead bought stock in Campbells Soup when he was 18, he would now be a multi-millionare as a middle-aged guy. Now he wasn’t saying take that sort of gamble and abandoned getting a college education, but he was pointing out the importance of starting early.

    And for those who didn’t start early, the earlier you start is still the better.

    Way too many 20 year-olds shell out hundreds each month for the TV, phone, and internet packages, when they would be far better off to be socking away hundreds for their futures.

  174. Bitterlaw says:

    Too late now, MD. All money will now go to college tuition starting August 2016 for my son for 4 years and then 4 years staring for my daughter in 2021.

  175. Cory says:

    #166 was in reference to Robbie’s #131.

    I don’t see how saying you’d attend a gay wedding is anathema in a Republican primary. Especially from a guy like Kasich who is courting moderate/business Republicans rather than bible thumpers.

  176. Cash Cow TM says:

    ETA in a couple hours.
    Temps have been in high 50s.

    Maybe northern WI had summer
    last week and we missed it.

  177. Corey says:

    It’s not as if Kasich conducted the wedding…

    I do not see any GOP candidates going after him for that anymore than I see any non-Trump candidates taking issue with “act of love.”

  178. Corey says:

    Cow, what were you doing in Bloomington-Normal, IL?

  179. Bitterlaw says:

    Way too many 20 year-olds shell out hundreds each month for the TV, phone, and internet packages, when they would be far better off to be socking away hundreds for their futures.

    While you are right to a certain degree, DW, maybe they do not want to live as hermits without TV, phones and internet service. They would be better off keeping the tv/phone/internet service and giving up beer and hard alcohol. That stuff costs serious money in your 20s.

  180. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    183 – I guess I should have qualified my comments that they don’t necessarily give up all that stuff, but be smarter about what they have. Often kids just sign up for incredibly expensive plans without realizing that there much better deals out there.

    A lot of people now are cutting cable TV altogether and going with Netflix, etc.

    But save some money there, then cut out some of the beer, etc. and suddenly there is money available.

    But I hear all the time, “I don’t have anything left to invest!”

    But if you dig deeper you discover they don’t really WANT to invest because they want immediate pleasures first, and usually spend wastefully on those pleasures.

  181. Corey says:

    Oh great. The Cubs are on the cover of the new Sports Illustrated. Talk about jinxes..

  182. BTW while it is a secret ballot I can also see IP addresses so you sneaky bastards trying to vote multiple times won’t get your extra votes

  183. Corey says:

    184. I’ve been spending my day stressing out over the best way I can shell out $100 to get my hands on a book where I can read detailed profiles of all 535 Members of Congress.

    Something is very wrong with me.

  184. Mr.Vito says:

    186 now they’ll start using different IP addresses.

  185. Bitterlaw says:

    I think Author just took himself out of consideration for the director of the NSA.

  186. I’ll just keep my HHR Senate job

  187. Corey says:

    A former White House fence jumper was killed today at the Chester County Justice Center in Pennsylvania, after attacking a deputy Sheriff with a knife.

  188. Cash Cow TM says:

    Market rallies and then tanks Iin the last bit of today?

    I smell a Soros.

  189. jason says:

    “Something is very wrong with me.

    Comment by Corey — August 25, 2015 @ 4:55 pm’

    Thinking of how I could disagree…

    Thinking…

    Epic fail.

  190. NYC Moron says:

    “trying to vote multiple times won’t get your extra vote”

    I voted multiple times but different candidates.

    Is that ok?

  191. Cash Cow TM says:

    Author,

    I used your survey monkey to
    vote for Walker.

    Walt refuses to vote due to
    the way he feels about anything
    that has to do with monkeys
    but he is a Walker guy but
    is moving away from Walker
    over to Kasich lately

  192. Cash Cow TM says:

    CEe CEe. Senior..

  193. Diamond Jim says:

    CC

  194. Corey says:

    PPP is saying their results tomorrow will show that Kasich is “easily” the strongest general election candidate in NH.

    They are also showing him doing well in NH, where he has spent a lot of money on the airwaves already, due to Moderates. He trails most other candidates, including Jeb Bush, among “very conservative” voters in NH.

    But if he has a guy like Walt willing to consider him, alongside those moderates, he may really have something going. Time will tell.

  195. Diamond Jim says:

    Kasich. Yay.

  196. Robbie says:

    165.162 – thus, the hypocrisy of Robbie.

    Comment by MD — August 25, 2015 @ 4:35 pm

    Again, and this is what I said to you last week, if Bush, in what was effectively his national debut, had used that opportunity to speak, unprompted, about attending a gay wedding, I would have been critical of the comment.

    Why? Firstly, the Republican party is generally a conservative party. And the bulk of the party, despite what the Supreme Court says, is still opposed to the concept of gay “marriage” and that there is a right in the Constitution to gay marriage.

    So in that view, I don’t see how it’s smart, politically, for a candidate with a national poll standing of less than 5% in a conservative party to make that issue one of the first things he tells uninformed voters about him. That’s unless there is a larger segment of the party that is socially more accepting of that issue than I think.

    That said, if you’ll remember, I spoke of that instance as one of several reasons why I’m not a fan of Kasich. The others were his expansion of Medicade under Obamacare, his comment about St. Peter, and his comments about abortion vis-a-vis the environment.

    What I did not do is go off on some homophobic rant against Kasich.

  197. Corey says:

    Kasich was asked the question in the debate and he answered it. It’s a non-issue. He supports traditional marriage but lives in 2015 America.

  198. Cory says:

    Not that I’m the target audience …. BUT

    I would prefer a candidate who answers questions with what he believes , rather than answering them with “what should I say based on where I am in the polls and how many times people have heard me before”

  199. Robbie says:

    179.#166 was in reference to Robbie’s #131.

    I don’t see how saying you’d attend a gay wedding is anathema in a Republican primary. Especially from a guy like Kasich who is courting moderate/business Republicans rather than bible thumpers.

    Comment by Cory — August 25, 2015 @ 4:45 pm

    The context of my comments last week was the suggestion by some here Kasich is a conservative while Bush is not.

    I’m not going to get into an endless back and forth about that, but I was pointing out that Kasich has some views that differ with that belief.

    Furthermore as I wrote in 203, I found it strange that Kasich used what amounted to his national debut to highlight that issue, along with others, to an audience, the Republican primary voter, that is generally conservative.

    Of course, in a highly fragmented field, maybe the moderate/business type is enough to put Kasich out in front. I’m dubious, but that’s clearly John Weaver’s early strategy is.

  200. Robbie says:

    Finally, if people want to disagree with my assessment of Kasich, more power to them.

    What I reject is the notion I launched some sort of homophobic rant against him.

  201. Robbie says:

    Robert Costa ?@costareports · 5m5 minutes ago
    SCOOP: SAM CLOVIS has been tapped by Trump to be his national campaign co-chairman and policy adviser, will intro Trump in Dubuque tonight

  202. Cory says:

    And besides , I think someone like Kasich needs to stand out from the other 9 guys on stage on an issue other than tie colour.

    Scott Walker is showing how successful a strategy it is to give every answer based on what you think your audience wants to hear.

  203. EML says:

    Gif showing the evolution of every MLB logo throughout the history of the league.

  204. BayernFan says:

    So is Trump’s “ceiling” now 35%?

  205. BayernFan says:

    If Trump is nominated I could see him picking someone like Kasich as his running mate. It would be solid deal to wet the establishment’s beak a little, cement some unity, and put Ohio in the GOP column (hopefully).

  206. MD says:

    214

    LOL!

    Wait, you’re not joking?

  207. jason says:

    “So is Trump’s “ceiling” now 35%?”

    Zzzzzz…

    Do you think he is going to win?

    If so, put your money where your mouth is.

    Otherwise, just admit you are a Democrat clown.

  208. jason says:

    Altercation at a Trump event with Univision anchor.

    Trump is trying hard for the three ring circus approach.

  209. jason says:

    “What I reject is the notion I launched some sort of homophobic rant against him.”

    You can reject it all you want, but that is what you did.

  210. jason says:

    “Kasich used what amounted to his national debut to highlight that issue,”

    Again, he didn’t highlight any issue, didn’t speak glowingly of gay marriage.

    He was asked a direct question, he gave a great answer, got lots of kudos for it.

    You are just upset Hillary-lite sucked at the debate while Kasich didn’t.

    Now GFY.

  211. MD says:

    Robbie didn’t type that post once either.

  212. MD says:

    It really is like the Mets are taking batting practice. Hard to believe the Phils probably won’t lose a hundred games this year.

  213. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Two Mets batters so far in the 1st inning, and its 2-0 Mets already. Cespedes a two-run homer.

  214. MD says:

    Bitter

    Matt Stairs said (without saying it) that it’s time to bean one of the Mets.

  215. MD says:

    Trump is a horrible human being. Anyone that would support him is an idiot.

  216. Robbie says:

    You can reject it all you want, but that is what you did.

    Comment by jason — August 25, 2015 @ 6:58 pm

    Total BS from a total D-bag.

  217. MD says:

    Or a Democrat trying to pose as a Republican which is exactly what Trump is doing.

  218. Marc says:

    Nothing more entertaining then a Trump press conference, the guy is a master.

  219. jason says:

    “So in that view, I don’t see how it’s smart, politically, for a candidate with a national poll standing of less than 5% in a conservative party to make that issue one of the first things he tells uninformed voters about him. That’s unless there is a larger segment of the party that is socially more accepting of that issue than I think.”

    Wow, talk about dishonesty.

    Kasich did not choose to talk about gay marriage, he answered the question that was posed to him.

    Very well, I might add.

    And what exactly did he tell the uninformed voters:

    THAT HE WAS OPPOSED TO GAY MARRIAGE.

    Now GFY again.

  220. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Mets starting pitcher just rang up a double and got an RBI, 3-0 Mets.

  221. jason says:

    “Trump is a horrible human being. Anyone that would support him is an idiot.”

    …the guy is a master.

    Comment by Marc — August 25, 2015 @ 7:17 pm

    No comment

  222. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – I predicted that one team would sweep the series. Seems like I have a good chance of being right.

  223. Bitterlaw says:

    205 Good joke, EML.

  224. MD says:

    I swear. I didn’t plan that but I deserve bonus points.

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    The rise of Trump in 2015a nd the clown car in 2012 made me realize the major difference between Democrat Deadenders and Republican Deadenders. The GOP always has a need for people obsessed with social issues. These divisive issues require every candidate to respond.

    The Democrat’s Deadenders always stay focused on the prize of more government and higher taxes. Ypu get Sanders and O’Malley. You never get a pro-life, anti-tax protest Dem.

  226. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    Tonight’s starter for the Mets doing much better than last night’s. Six batters retired, no hits, four strikeouts.

  227. MD says:

    DW – how is this his 4th team?

  228. MD says:

    NT and it sounds like Dave is ready to leave the GOP.

  229. DW, Lt. Gov says:

    236 – no idea. The Mets have just got an incredible starting pitching staff at the moment.

  230. Robbie says:

    Now GFY again.

    Comment by jason — August 25, 2015 @ 7:29 pm

    At our various maintenance facilities, the mechanics, after doing work on the engines, will taxi the aircraft to areas were they can run up the engines and check different parameters.

    If you would, please stand in front of one of the engines while they’re being advanced to full takeoff power. There’s part of a GE CF6 I’d like you to see.