Gillespie and Northam Lead Primaries in VA

Christopher Newport University is out with a new poll for the primary races in Virginia and they show Ed Gillespie and Ralph Northam atop their respective party fields.

Ed Gillespie 33%
Frank Wagner 9%
Corey Stewart 7%
Denver Riggleman 1%

Ralph Northam 26%
Tom Perriello 15%

Unfortunately there were no General Election questions asked, or at least not yet released, which is what we are all wanting. This poll was done January 15-28 among registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 4:17 pm
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1,717 Responses to “Gillespie and Northam Lead Primaries in VA”

  1. jason says:

    Numero Uno

  2. Bitterlaw says:

    Hey – there’s an A-hole!

  3. jason says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 2, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    “Considering how many people have been killed in the name of the Bible, I wouldn’t give this statistic much importance.”

    -It would be more appropriate when broken down, like we do for baseball records and such (for example – HR hitters during the Dead-ball area).

    If you break the deaths down by, say, 500 year periods, it would be interesting.”

    I don’t strive to be either appropriate or interesting, but have a good time.

  4. jason says:

    Hey – there’s an A-hole!”

    That would be Numero Uno A-hole to you, thanks.

  5. Phil says:

    I see Schumer and company refused to meet with the Supreme Court nominee.

    Screw em. Ram it through.

  6. Wes says:

    Schumer is pissed because he knows he’s guaranteed to be Minority Leader for at least four years, if not longer.

    By the way, Trump is personally encouraging Scott to challenge Nelson. That’s the Dems’ worst nightmare.

    We just need Jenkins, Rokita, Duffy, Cramer, Fox, Comstock, Poliquin, and Wagner to pull the trigger now.

  7. PresidentPaul! says:

    Did Schumer check his privilege yet if he’s trying to be the leader?

    White Women attending anti-Trump inaugural march told to check their white privilege

  8. Wes says:

    Once Gorsuch becomes an Associate Justice, Republicans can appeal the partisan redistricting rulings of the appeals courts to the Supremes and get said rulings overturned.

  9. Wes says:

    DW, I expect Gillespie to win in November.

    Assuming I’m right, odds he challenges Warner again. Dems have been barely winning in the Old Dominion lately, so I’d imagine a weak Warner would be a prime target for a sitting Governor.

  10. CashCow TM says:


    Dave the Wizard puts up two posts in same day!

    So I will see if I can find something appropriate for a political blog thread….

  11. CashCow TM says:

    Here is this…

    “Many Dems either don’t know how to relate to people with moderate or mixed views or they don’t want to. They prefer rock stars and celebrities to bus drivers and food service workers. They like cute sayings and clever picket signs, not long and patient listening sessions with people who have complicated interests, people who might not pass the liberal litmus test.”

  12. Wes says:

    Is the Brahma Bull the subject of any current political debate or action, Walt?

  13. PresidentPaul! says:

    If they need bus drivers, the democrats could get Maduro the bus driver king to help the democrats as Maduro likes economics.

  14. CashCow TM says:

    And this….

    Which either means The failed SEAL operation was perhaps either

    A. Poorly thought out by new DJT admin
    B. Poorly planned by the BHO admin and Trump inherited it
    C. botched due to faulty intel
    D. “someone” who does not like DJT tipped off the whackadoodles and wanted to see DJT embarrassed

  15. PresidentPaul! says:

    Flynn has been rattling the war drums towards Iran, which is something that could destroy the Trump’s presidency.

  16. Conservative says:

    #10: Temper your expectations, Wes. Remember odd-year elections are generally predisposed to the opposition party. Although, if Dems persist in their full meltdown that should help Gillespie – who is a terrific candidate. But he has to do something no statewide Republican has done recently – crack NoVA.

    I expect the Dems to be favored in NJ – Christie’s baggage and the fact that he did nothing to build the NJGOP during his two terms.

  17. Conservative Populist says:

    Oops forgot my last name in my last post.

  18. Big Joe says:

    VA governorship is scheduled to flip to GOP if recent patterns hold.

    Big Joe

  19. Wes says:

    Ever heard of Bob McDonnell, Bill Bolling, and Ken Cuccinelli, CP? They all won NoVA in 2009.

    Gillespie came close with virtually no money against a Senator with a gargantuan warchest in 2014. Two of the three NoVA-based Congressmen are Republicans–including Barbara Comstock, who twice won her seat decisively despite withering Dem attacks.

    Also, VA elected a Dem Governor in 2013 despite its being a year after Obama won a second term only because Ken Cuccinelli was determined to feed his galactic cluster-sized ego at the expense of the state party. Even then, Ralph Northam–the current frontrunner for the Dem gubernatorial nod–only beat arguably the worst candidate for VA statewide office since Jim Gilmore by 55-45.

    Unless Trump melts down, I’m comfortable with saying Gillespie will win.

    Unfortunately thanks to a multitude of issues–Chris Christie not being least–I do agree NJ is likely gone unless the Dems nominate Corzine 2.0 for Governor.

    Given their current frontrunner, that scenario isn’t an impossibility.

  20. Wes says:

    Besides, Terry McAuliffe barely beat a disaster of an opponent in 2013 despite fairly comfortable poll leads. He’s not exactly Mr. Popularity right now.

    In addition, while Tim Kaine was on the ticket last year, Hillary beat Trump 49-44. That suggests Republicans have an opening in the Old Dominion if they can rally around a solid candidate–someone such as Ed Gillespie.

  21. CashCow TM says:

    Got a magazine that has lots of lists in WV.

    One of the lists were top lawyers in America
    The list was 12 pages long, about 100+ per page (some lawyers were named one the best in more than one category of law).

    Of the roughly 800-1,000 of these best lawyers in WV, guess how many Walt served with during his years in the legislature?

  22. CashCow TM says:

    WV has 55 counties.
    –8 have no natural gas wells.
    –8 others have fewer than 10.

    Of the other 39 how many have 1,000 or more active oil or gas wells?

    __?__out of 39

  23. CashCow TM says:

    WV produces almost 8.25 million barrels of oil in 2015.

    Over 5 million barrels if that 8 1/4 million bbls that year were produced in just 3 of WV’s counties

  24. CashCow TM says:

    WV’s Natural Gas production nearly doubled from 2013 to be 1,315,247,819 Mcf of gas.

    Just 2 counties produced 570,000,000 of that total.

  25. Robbie says:

    Would love to see Gillespie win the VA governor’s race. Hopefully, Trump will not meddle in the primary.

  26. lisab says:

    Is this Britain’s Hugh Hefner? 79-year-old lothario claims he’s slept with more than 2,000 women
    Chris Culleton says he met most of the women while he was working at a music promoter

  27. Robbie says:

    Mitch McConnell should not waste anyone’s time and simply nuke the filibuster on Supreme Court nominee’s now. And frankly, he shouldn’t apologize for it. He should simply say this is politics so deal with it.

    I’ve been informed Anthony Kennedy will likely retire when the current term ends and Clarence Thomas will probably retire in 2019 to ensure his replacement is made by a Republican.

    If McConnell nukes the filibuster now, we can get five conservatives on the Court who are under ~65. That would likely ensure a majority for at least 20-25 years.

    Scalia – Gorsuch
    Kennedy – Kethledge, Sykes, or Larsen
    Thomas – Mike Lee

    It would be a conservative dream fulfilled and it would make the 2020 election less important for the Court should Trump lose. Ginsburg and Breyer would be icing on the top.

  28. Mr.Vito says:

    The sour faces, hyperventilating, and bias is epic on this CBC coverage. The three analysts during the major portion were openly cheering for a Trump loss, including David Frum, and some democrat strategist who is more brainwashed than Van Jones.

  29. Tina says:

    Little mitchie wont ram anything throug phil. Always been a lightweight.

    And mcamnesty, the open birder whore, should stfu

  30. PresidentPaul! says:

    Gorsach might make it less likely to retire if he wants to stick around and mentor his former clerk.

    Unless he found him annoying.

  31. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. “WV’s Natural Gas production nearly doubled from 2013 to be 1,315,247,819 Mcf of gas.”

    24. “WV produces almost 8.25 million barrels of oil in 2015.”

    Wow. What is that doing for WV economy? In the West I know high school graduates who went out and immediately got jobs paying abt. $45,000 in the oil/NG industry. They were able to buy houses and start families. They would then go to tech school to get a tech degree that would increase double their income.

    Compare that with a California college graduate with a $20,000 student loan who works as a barista at Starbucks for little over minimum wage.

  32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    32. Of course the enlightening California college grad with the low paying job, who lives in an apartment with roommates, looks down on the blue collar kid with house, big truck, and family.

  33. CashCow TM says:

    What county as the most homes connected to the (George) Washington family?

    Jefferson County, WV, where Walt’s people came from!

    At one time GW owned nearly 2,300 acres in the region.
    Harewood–(built in 1770 by G. Washington’s brother Samuel)

    Happy Retreat–(built @ 1770s by G. W.’s brother Charles, founder of Charles Town)

    Claymont Court–(land owned by GW’s brother John; home built there by GW’s grant nephew in 1820; 59 room mansion with 25 fireplaces)

    Blakeley–also build by GW’s great nephew in 1820

    Cedar Lawn–1825; GW’s brother Smauel’s grandson

    Richwood Hall–1779; Lawrence Washington, who was nephew of GW’s

    Beall-Air–1790s; daughter of Bell-Air’s owner married GW’s great nephew. His son Lewis Washington was captured at his home by John Brown and hauled off as a captive to Harper’s Ferry during Brown’s raid on Harpers Ferry.

    Another Washington home, Locust Hill, no longer stands. In 1864 during Battle of Cameron’s Depot, Confederate Gen. Jubal Early’s cannons at one GW family home (Richwood Hall) fired upon Union forces under Gen. Phil Sheridan who were at Locust Hill, which was another home owned by the Washington family.

    And there you have it.

  34. CashCow TM says:


    20 out of the remaining 39 counties have 1000 or more oil and gas wells.

    I think 4 of them have in excess of 3,000 gas and oil wells.

  35. CashCow TM says:

    National Security Advisor to President Donald Trump, Gen. Huckleberry Flynn, issues threat to Iran.

  36. Mr.Vito says:

    “cbc election coverage meltdown”

    As awful as that clip seems, it doesn’t even remotely do justice to the hate and bile on that coverage…

  37. CashCow TM says:

    American Crime

    ABC TV show that will be debuting in March!

    From the ads on TV it is about the struggles the Hispanics face when they come to the U.S. nd the harsh treatment they must endure here and the abuse they suffer, their trials and tribulations…


  38. lisab says:

    “As awful as that clip seems, it doesn’t even remotely do justice to the hate and bile on that coverage…”

    i cannot find the entire nights coverage, just clips

    do you have a link?

  39. lisab says:

    “20 out of the remaining 39 counties have 1000 or more oil and gas wells.”

    how many have bells?

  40. CashCow TM says:

    Sandy Eggo Citizen says:

    “WV’s Natural Gas production nearly doubled from 2013 to be 1,315,247,819 Mcf of gas.”
    24. “WV produces almost 8.25 million barrels of oil in 2015.”
    Wow. What is that doing for WV economy?”

    No doubt it has been a big help economically.
    however the crash of the coal industry and big declines in gaming revenue due to new competition from neighboring states has been a far bigger economic negative than the positive of the NatGas industry.

    We need NatGas cracker plants and pipelines.
    Crackers cost billions and take years to build. One is being build across river in OH and one just a dozen miles from WV border in PA.

    5 or 6 big pipelines in the works to take NatGas to east coast. Two or three or more years out before the gas flows in the pipelines.

    Just ONE completed 40 inch NatGas pipeline would provide WV tax revenue of @ $750,000,000. A year.

    WV has a $4.2 Billion Gen Rev Budget.

    One pipeline would add 3/4 billion $$$.

    Do the math.

  41. CashCow TM says:

    lisab says she is the missing link!

    Oh..sorry…said she is missing a link.

    My bad.

  42. NYCmike says:

    Tina says:
    February 2, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    So called constitutional expert mark levine blasts trump about not taking the aussie refugees.

    He is an open borders idiot.

    NYCmike says:
    February 2, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    “He is an open borders idiot.”


    Considering that Levin has commented many times about our immigration laws being UNENFORCED, I find it hard to believe you would think he is for “open borders”.

    Don’t be like an Author, or a Corey, or a Robbie.

    Please share the arguments that Levin made that you disagree with, and let others on here see if they agree with him or not.

    NYCmike, head of the Mark Levin Show Fan Club at HHR

  43. NYCmike says:

    Prediction: The SOTU address will be worth watching this year!

  44. Mr.Vito says:

    Here is the coverage… I am on hour 8 of 12.

    Lynch mobs just came up.

  45. lisab says:


  46. Mr.Vito says:

    David Frum is now bringing up that all of their panel coverage is negative and rationalizing that it’s justified.

  47. Tina says:

    Mike, he said that we have to,take in the refugees because australia is an ally. Stupid reason.

  48. PresidentPaul! says:

    Press Secretary Sean Spicer Falsely Accuses Iran of Attacking U.S. Navy Vessel, an Act of War

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    50. Actually, there is some discussion if an American warship was not the initial target of the attack.

  50. Mr.Vito says:

    They are now debating whether Trump actually reads anything besides Twitter.

  51. lisab says:

    cbc coverage was fairly balanced,

    they had a lesbian black lives matter representative, danielle moodie-mills, on one side


    former msnbc reporter ashley banfield on the other side — whose husband runs a carbon credit trading company

    with bush supporter, david frum acting as referee

    what could have been more fair?

  52. NYCmike says:


    If that was the only reason, YES, that is pretty thin reasoning.

  53. janz says:

    #34 sandiego – so true about the ironic divide between the college graduate with a low paying job & the blue collar guy with the big truck and big life.

    I saw a long time friend today – installs garage doors for a living. He can’t keep up with the work coming his way, word of mouth, and makes a great living at a job he thoroughly enjoyed. Also, he drives a big honking truck too!

  54. lisab says:

    in defense of cbc’s coverage

    they seem to be one of the first to figure out something was wrong. i still remember chris wallace saying trump could win at just after 9pm on fox and being laughed at

    but cbc was not far behind in saying the numbers were not where they were supposed to be around 9:10 pm. by 9:45 pm they seemed panicked and the 10pm hour was very gloomy.

    so, although cbc’s coverage was like watching pravda’s newsroom on the night the berlin wall came down,

    they did seem to realize quite early that something was very wrong

    you can check the link vito posted above, the good part is about at the 9:40 mark where it is announced that hillary has called trump

    up until then they were prepared to go several days before declaring trump the winner

    all in all a satisfying news cast

  55. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    55. In San Diego, truck sales have risen now almost equal(49%) that of cars. Yet our crackpot Republican mayor still channels Gov. Brown and is pushing climate action, ending car use, biking, mass transit, etc. I have gone cold on him running for governor, if he won he would spend his time attacking Trump, and and trying to become the “moderate” alternative.

  56. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump has risen in the Rasmussen poll which is now 53% to 47%. Even the leftist and bias PPP poll only has him 2% behind: 47% to 49%.

  57. lisab says:

    what is wrong with mass transit?

  58. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    59. Nothing is wrong with mass transit, but when you engage in social engineering to force people out of their automobiles, it is too much.

    You face reality and the market forces; make autos and trucks less polluting. Instead, cities deliberately using traffic congestion as a tool to force people not to drive. A case in point in many cities is millions of dollars has been on buffered bicycle lanes which are not used. Seattle just closed down a bicycle sharing program it had spent $1.5 million to buy only a few years ago.

  59. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a link to a Los Angeles Times article pointed out billions of dollars has been spent on it, and there is less ridership.

  60. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    With self-driving cars coming very soon, services like Uber and shared car ownership services will likely make mass transit obsolete. Why wait at a bus or transit station when a self-driving car can pick you up and take you to where you want to go?

  61. lisab says:

    well, cars are very expensive for people. if you live in a city with good transit systems, you do not need a car.

    cars in cities are just pollution machines.

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    My team was kicked out of our Sunday time slot because the Commissioner did not want his team to be inconvenienced. I am losing half my team to lacrosse in the ma makeup slot and will have to use a 7th grade call up to have enough players. We are playing a high school team. I am Irish and I hold a grudge. I am playing the Commissioner’s team next week. Our only win was against him and if we get a lead on his team again, I am not calling my girls off until they beat him by 30.

  63. NYCmike says:

    -Great job by Orrin Hatch – must be up for election!

  64. Wes says:

    Bitterlw is actually trying to win a game. Will wonders never cease?

  65. Wes says:

    Unlike your misogynist buddy, Dick Mourdock, Mike!

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I try to win every game. Try. We have 1 victory this season and 3 losses within 7 points against older, better teams. At this point, the goals are simple:

    1. Beat the two coaches who just screwed over my team.

    2. Beat the team with my best softball player on it because they are older and think they are unbeatable.

    3. Win one playoff game. Every team makes the playoffs.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    I bet there is more discussion at HHR about Mourdock than there is in the Mourdock family.

  68. Bitterlaw says:

    Nothing to see here. Just a disgruntled art critic. No big deal.

  69. jason says:

    Looks like Bitter may try to become an A-hole outside of HHR too.

    I regard this as a positive development.

    Let’s show that Commissioner’s team some pain.

  70. jason says:

    I hear Mourdock sends NYC a Xmas card every year.

    “Thank you for everything, I could never have been in a position to lose that election without people like you”

  71. jason says:

    well, cars are very expensive for people. if you live in a city with good transit systems, you do not need a car.

    cars in cities are just pollution machines.”

    Yes, we socialists will decide your means of transportation and then tax you accordingly.

    Rest assured it will be what’s best for you and of course for the environment.

    Don’t let your mind be troubled.

  72. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I am pissed. This schedule change just stole a chance to play a game for 1/2 my team. The last time we played them, I had my team pass for the last 2 minutes to not run it up on him. Next time, we rain 3 pointers. The only problem with that is I like the girls on his team.

  73. jason says:

    you live in a city with good transit systems, you do not need a car.”

    Come the nanny state, everyone will be told what they need or do not need in a city.

    But don’t worry, the people deciding that will be like lisab, and they know what’s best for you.

    It’s all good.

  74. jason says:

    The only problem with that is I like the girls on his team.”

    Irrelevant. You are an A-hole.

  75. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I’m not opposed to effective public transportation. I loved the London subway because it worked well. The Metro in DC is also efficient. However, I am not looking to punish car owners. lisab wants people to bend to her will.

    I feel the same way about alternative energy sources. If a company can make money with solar, wind and other sources without public subsidies, good for them.

  76. Mr.Vito says:

    Here is Yahoo News election coverage…

    I have only watched about 20 minutes. At the beginning, Frank Luntz arrogantly declares Clinton the winner before any polls have closed.

  77. Mr.Vito says:

    And they begin Trump’s autopsy…

  78. Mr.Vito says:

    Luntz also declares the Senate Dems will have a very very good night…

  79. Wes says:

    Luntz must have been looking for work.

  80. Bitterlaw says:

    WTF. Stop watching Election Night coverage. It’s over. Get ready for the biggest event of the year. Puppy Bowl!

  81. DW says:

    Wes, yes, I do expect Gillespie to win. It will likely be close, but he should be able to pull it out.

  82. NYCmike says:

    I think I may have to join Twitter.

    When I see Author posting a quote about Corey Booker NOT voting for Gorsuch and putting up a comment “2020”, it makes me realize I am missing out on all of his vast experience, intelligence, and common sense.

    Those who voted for Author for HHR Senator please stand up….

  83. Mr.Vito says:

    New sanctions on Iran in response to missile tests…

  84. Mr.Vito says:

    What’s Authors problem with Gorsuch? Or is he just rooting for Booker?

  85. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    No problem with Gorsuch, as his name is on a list of Trump appointees he would have voted for, if he was a U S Senator.

    I guess he is trying to get in early on Booker.

  86. NYCmike says:

    It is really incredible to read his Twitter feed.

    He is in a different universe. Forget Disney World, he is wayyyyy beyond!

  87. jason says:

    Watching the CBC….

    Hilarious…the preface any good news for Trump with something about it being early, the Dem counties are not in, a long way to go… but anything for Hillary is cast in stone.

  88. jason says:

    David Frum says Michigan in not a toss-up state before the polls close there.

  89. jason says:

    Also the CBC pictures of Trump and Hillary are about 20 years ago….

  90. NYCmike says:


    STOP telling everyone NOT to watch the election coverage!

  91. jason says:

    I am still looking for Univisions election night broadcast if anyone has it

  92. jason says:

    Hey NYC stop telling Bitter to stop telling everyone not to watch election coverage.

  93. Barrett says:

    #88 – For better or worse, I think we are headed for war with Iran. Probably about time anyways.

    Where Obama would let our sailors be humiliated by Iranians, Trump would say “enough is enough”, and blow them out of the water.

  94. jason says:

    Those who voted for Author for HHR Senator please stand up….”

    Author is not always wrong….

    He voted for the highly successful two-term Bitter-jason ticket.

  95. jason says:

    #88 – For better or worse, I think we are headed for war with Iran.”

    Bunu’s head will explode…watch him revoke his support for Trump.

  96. NYCmike says:


    In regards to Univision, I only find clips on Youtube, but I am sure you looked there already.

    The Univision clip I watched was that Jorge Ramos guy saying (paraphrasing) “I will continue to question authority and speak Truth to Power…” yada yada yada….where were these people for 8 years!!??

    I do have to say, again, I am amazed by the continued reactions of these “protesters” and the media.

  97. PresidentPaul! says:

    “…watch him revoke his support for Trump.”

    Trump wasn’t my first choice. He was my second choice candidate in the primary.

    Cruz was a distant third choice.

  98. PresidentPaul says:

    The Coming Clash With Iran

    When Gen. Michael Flynn marched into the White House Briefing Room to declare that “we are officially putting Iran on notice,” he drew a red line for President Trump. In tweeting the threat, Trump agreed.

    His credibility is now on the line.

    And what triggered this virtual ultimatum?

    Iran-backed Houthi rebels, said Flynn, attacked a Saudi warship and Tehran tested a missile, undermining “security, prosperity, and stability throughout the Middle East,” placing “American lives at risk.”

    But how so?

    The Saudis have been bombing the Houthi rebels and ravaging their country, Yemen, for two years. Are the Saudis entitled to immunity from retaliation in wars that they start?

    Where is the evidence Iran had a role in the Red Sea attack on the Saudi ship? And why would President Trump make this war his war?

    As for the Iranian missile test, a 2015 U.N. resolution “called upon” Iran not to test nuclear-capable missiles. It did not forbid Iran from testing conventional missiles, which Tehran insists this was.

    Is the United States making new demands on Iran not written into the nuclear treaty or international law — to provoke a confrontation?”

  99. PresidentPaul! says:

    idk why conservatives continue to support these universities who are hostile to their children if they support Trump or have white privilege


    For all of the important, albeit hyperbolic, conversations about “white supremacists” and the “alt-right,” we would be well served to confront the very real reality of a dangerous dynamic of liberals in an “honor brigade” who lash out aggressively at others with the false claim they are defending the “honor” of American values of tolerance, diversity and pluralism. For the self-confessed crime of my vote for Donald Trump, a liberal Georgetown University professor told me, “I’ve written you off as a human being,” and hurled insult after insult at me, including “F–k off. Go to hell,” and “Gloves off.”

    Says Feinberg: “This is the American intifada,” an Arabic word for an uprising. “Just like ISIS and Hamas have found the use of unique hashtags on social media to recruit and radicalize, unique hashtags are now being used by groups here in the U.S. that call for violence, protest, resistance and anarchy. By the use of these unique hashtags with a call to action to a specified group and location, the online mob becomes a real world-mob that can cause damage, disruption and violence, like we just witnessed in Berkeley.”

    We are facing a cyber jihad, the Arabic word for “struggle,” in America, with the Internet used to mobilize mobs.

  100. CG says:

    Author did not express support for Cory Booker for President on his Twitter. He was clearly just stating that Booker had 2020 in mind with his positioning on that.

    Yesterday, Author went down a list of all Trump nominees he would support, oppose, or was undecided on. He said he would vote yes on Gorsuch for Supreme Court.

    Now, that I have once again, defended Author from “fake news” regarding what he said on Twitter, I will say goodbye for now.

  101. Mr.Vito says:

    Corey is overly defensive of his autistic friend.

  102. PresidentPaul! says:

    But author spent the last 8 years worshipping little Marco and to a lesser extent Paul Ryan but now he hates their guts?

  103. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump probably needs to ask Flynn for his resignation at this point to correct course.

  104. Bitterlaw says:

    I will say goodbye for now.

    Stay or go. Don’t act like a whiny high school girl.

  105. PresidentPaul! says:


    Some of Trumps cabinet picks are bonkers. Sessions was an inspired pick. Flynn and Pompeo were bonkers though.

    Obama made a MAJOR mistake by not prosecuting the entire Bush administration and now many of them are back. Hopefully that mistake will not be made next time.

    CIA Chief Picks Major Torture Operative as Deputy Director

    As Miller put it, she was “directly involved in its controversial interrogation program” and had an “extensive role” in torturing detainees. Even more troubling, she “had run a secret prison in Thailand” – part of the CIA’s network of “black sites” – “where two detainees were subjected to waterboarding and other harsh techniques.” The Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on torture also detailed the central role she played in the particularly gruesome torture of detainee Abu Zubaydah.

    Beyond all that, she played a vital role in the destruction of interrogation videotapes that showed the torture of detainees both at the black site she ran and other secret agency locations. The concealment of those interrogation tapes, which violated both multiple court orders as well the demands of the 9/11 Commission and the advice of White House lawyers, was condemned as “obstruction” by Commission Chairs Lee Hamilton and Thomas Keane. A special prosecutor and Grand Jury investigated those actions but ultimately chose not to prosecute.

  106. NYCmike says:


    What did I get wrong about what Author said?

    This is what I said about Author’s support for Gorsuch:

    “No problem with Gorsuch, as his name is on a list of Trump appointees he would have voted for, if he was a U S Senator.”

  107. NYCmike says:

    “I guess he is trying to get in early on Booker.”

    -And this is what I said about his reference to Booker, where I used the word “guess” since it was NOT an endorsement of his candidacy, but after Author’s ALL-IN support for Hillary, it is not very far-fetched for him to go there.

  108. PresidentPaul! says:

    While in CIA custody, Zubaydah lost his left eye

    Abu Zubaydah, a Palestinian whose real name is Zayn al Abidin Muhammad, was captured in a raid of a Faisalabad, Pakistan, house on March 28, 2002, suffering severe bullet wounds. The interrogation techniques used on him included stress positions, sleep deprivation, insects placed in a confinement box, and waterboarding, among others.
    Most notably perhaps, he was waterboarded 83 times.

    “He spent a total of 266 hours (11 days, 2 hours) in the large (coffin size) confinement box and 29 hours in a small confinement box, which had a width of 21 inches, a depth of 2.5 feet, and a height of 2.5 feet,” according to the Senate torture report. “The CIA interrogators told Abu Zubaydah that the only way he would leave the facility was in the coffin-shaped confinement box.”

  109. NYCmike says:

    “CG” can’t even get his “fake” “fake news” correct.

  110. NYCmike says:

    “Now, that I have once again, defended Author from “fake news” regarding what he said on Twitter, I will say goodbye for now.”

    -Odd that “CG” made no mention of anarchists not allowing a speaker to speak at Berkeley.

    Maybe he just figured that it must be “Trump the Fascist” not allowing the 1st Amendment to stand.

  111. Bitterlaw says:

    Interpret for yourselves. Author’s page:

  112. PresidentPaul! says:

    Author says he supports Pompeo for CIA much further outside the mainstream than anyone else.

  113. Bitterlaw says:


    Trump picks I would/would have vote No on if I were a Senator:


    Luis A. Mendez ?@AuthorLMendez · 22h22 hours ago

    ? More

    Trump picks I would/would have vote Yes on if I were a Senator:


  114. Conservative Populist says:

    #20, Wes: Granted, McDonnell, Bolling & Cuccinelli…but their wins were nearly a decade ago.

    Agreed, Gillespie could have beaten Warner had NRSC ponied up. He’s a great candidate and was running in a great year. Still, NoVA saved Warner.

    And you are in error – NoVA congressional delegation is not 2-1(R) as you say but in fact split 2(R)-2(D). Wittman is from Manassas, but most of his district is SeVA to just short of Hampton. That leaves Beyer in Alexandria, Connolly in Fairfax, and Comstock in McLean.

    As I said, if Dems continue their meltdown and barring GOP scandal/crisis, Gillespie should have a great shot if he runs stronger in NoVA than he did in ’14. With greater resources this time, he may do so.

  115. NYCmike says:


    Both statements “CG” made are wrong.

    I stated that Author would have confirmed Gorsuch, and that Booker was mentioned on there for 2020. I did not say Author endorsed him, but I did guess that if it was Trump vs Booker, that Author would align with Booker, seeing as how much he supported Hillary.

  116. NYCmike says:

    The best thing going for “CG” and Author on Twitter is that I see nobody asking for their reasons why/how they came to state an opinion.

    If anyone does, they un-Twit from them.

  117. CG says:

    You are just hurt that you made a dumb mistake, validating jason’s belief about you, and are now trying to cover it up.

    You tried to give the impression that Author was or might be backing Booker for President and either that was very dishonest, or a dumb mistake. I will go with the latter.

  118. CG says:

    and I am not on Twitter. I just find it valuable to read others opinions on matters.

  119. Conservative Populist says:

    CG has been a consistent apologist for Romney and GOP establishment. Thankfully, voters cast the establishment aside. Time for some conservative populism or populist conservatism!

    And cheers for Gorsuch!

  120. NYCmike says:


    You stated something that was untrue. I relayed the information about Gorsuch accurately, saying that Author would have voted FOR him.

    I then brought up the fact that Author wrote “Booker 2020” after the Booker statement about NOT voting for Gorsuch, and then made the leap to a 2020 contest between Trump vs Booker.

    Who do you think Author would support in 2020 between those two personalities?

    Is there any reason to bring up Booker and the year 2020 at all, if not to “guess” how that year will come down?

    Will Author be mentioning that Schumer will NOT vote for Gorsuch? I doubt it, because Schumer will NOT be running for President in 2020.

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey just feels badly for poor Author being criticized for making the bold decision to back a pragmatic moderate over Trump.

  122. NYCmike says:

    “You are just hurt that you made a dumb mistake, validating jason’s belief about you, and are now trying to cover it up.”

    -I have made many dumb mistakes in life, and will make many more.

    I count selling DOW at $45 as dumb, even though I bought it at $9 (average price). I missed out on dividends and more capital gains. And it is goiung up still!

    Compared to anything on HHR, that as dumb.

  123. Bitterlaw says:

    Author has to go all in for 2020. He will vote for any Democrat. He’s probably hoping for Elizabeth Warren to pick up Hillary’s banner.

  124. CG says:

    I imagine Author would vote for Booker against Trump in a general election, but that’s a far step from saying he was backing Booker for President now. Your post #87 gives the impression that you are saying he endorsed him.

    Author is hardly the only person suggesting that Booker is a potential Presidential candidate. It’s been widely mentioned in many places. In my view, the correct way to interpret Author’s Tweet, was that it was a criticism of Booker and his posturing.

    Just admit you got something wrong, just like Kellyanne Conway was forced to her with her “Bowling Green Massacre” remark. You have always asked people to explain things for you before and that’s what I did. I made no reference to you anyway in stating what Author said about Booker.

  125. Conservative Populist says:

    Better to have President Trump’s Supreme Court nominees than those of a “pragmatic moderate”.

  126. NYCmike says:

    “I imagine Author would vote for Booker against Trump in a general election,”

    “I **guess** Author would vote for Booker against Trump in a general election,”


    Thanks for proving my point.

  127. NYCmike says:

    “In my view, the correct way to interpret Author’s Tweet, was that it was a criticism of Booker and his posturing.”


    For making an assumption that his refusal to vote for Gorsuch is a prelude to a run in 2020?

    That was not a criticism by Author.

    I would agree with his assumption about Booker.

    My “guess” is that a “supposed Republican” who just loudly voted for, supported, and shilled for Hillary would have no problem going with Booker against Trump, which happens to agree with your “imagine”-ings.

  128. NYCmike says:

    “”In my view, the correct way…”


  129. NYCmike says:

    Has “CG” stated his opinion about Gorsuch?

    Would it have been better to have Garland, or someone else that Hillary picked?

  130. NYCmike says:

    “Just admit you got something wrong”

    Daily occurrence…..but when I admit to the error, I mention the actual error, not something else I got correct.

  131. CG says:

    You totally misinterpret Author’s Twitter style, especially as it relates to Booker. Maybe you just do not speak Millenium Hipster. I often do not understand how your mind works.

    Gorsuch will be great on the Supreme Court. Trump continues to be a moral disgrace.

  132. NYCmike says:

    “You totally misinterpret Author’s Twitter style”

    -Info about Gorsuch relayed correctly.
    -Item about Booker 2020 “guessed” about.


  133. NYCmike says:

    “moral disgrace” – would love to see the recent examples for this.

    Past ones I am aware of, he is NOT a perfect person.

    Since he became President, it would be interesting to see what “CG” considers a “moral disgrace”.

  134. CG says:

    This is a dumb conversation, but why did you even bring it up? Why was the issue you had with Author?

    Why is it a problem that he mentioned that Booker had Presidential ambitions? You should discuss this with him, but he probably would “block” you.

  135. NYCmike says:

    “I often do not understand how your mind works.”

    -Considering you would have been more happy with Garland instead of Gorsuch, I’ll take your statement as a compliment.

  136. CG says:

    Trump is scum. It’s my opinion. You have to deal with it.

  137. NYCmike says:

    “You should discuss this with him, but he probably would “block” you.”

    -Yes, his unwillingness to engage, like yours, is there for all to see.

    He is in a bubble, and won’t come out, until he is forced to.

    I am content to laugh at him, and you.

  138. CG says:

    No, I would not have been happier with Garland over Gorsuch.

    I would have been happier with a conservative or a Republican over Trump.

    People can have complex thoughts on matters.

    If an actual conservative or a Republican were President now, I am sure the nomination would have gone to Gorsuch or someone similarly qualified.

  139. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is scum. It’s my opinion. You have to deal with it.”

    -Usually people form opinions based on a set of facts, and how they interpret them.

    If you can’t name any new “moral disgraces” since he became President-elect, that is fine. I can’t either.

  140. CG says:

    I have engaged with you plenty plenty, and am doing so now, even though I would rather not be spending my time here anymore. If you want to leave a comment on my little blog, feel free, and I will post it, as long as there is no profanity.

  141. CG says:

    The “Travel Ban” or whatever you want to call it is a moral disgrace in my view.

    His performance at the CIA was a moral disgrace.

    The pushing of “alternative facts” is a disgrace.

    The deliberate exclusion of mentioning Jews or anti-Semitism from the Holocaust statement was a moral disgrace.

    There are many other examples and sadly will be more.

    But I like the nomination of Neil Gorsuch, so credit where credit is due. He should cite that and resign immediately, so he can leave on a high note.

  142. CG says:

    So, I will ask one more time. What specifically was the issue with Author’s Tweet about Booker?

    Unless you interpreted it as a “I want Booker in 2020” statement, I have no clue.

  143. jason says:

    “…watch him revoke his support for Trump.”

    Trump wasn’t my first choice.”


    Bunu is endless entertainment.

  144. NYCmike says:

    Temporary “travel ban” – if it is illegal/unconstitutional, I may consider it a “moral disgrace”. Still waiting to see proof if it is being carried out against our laws.

    CIA performance – disagree with you. Much ado over nothing.

    “alternative facts” – 🙂 – until the media proves it can be objective, this will make me smile.

    Holocaust statement – did not understand why they did that, but will wait and see what other actions are taken in regards to Israel.

    “There are many other examples and sadly will be more.” – you sound like a liberal describing President Reagan, or a conservative describing Obama. “Alternate” universe.

  145. CG says:

    Actions on Israel, while vastly important, are irrelevant to the minimization or trivialization of what happened to Jews in the Holocaust and why it happened.

    The six million plus Jews that died in the Holocaust, solely because they were Jews, are already dead and deserved to be remembered as such.

  146. Mr.Vito says:

    Did Author and Corey list all of Hillary’s cabinet nominees that they wouldn’t confirm?

    It guess it doesn’t really matter… if they had gotten the their way, Majority Leader Schumer would have confirmed them all.

  147. jason says:

    I don’t really have a dog in the NYC-Corey fight, although the fact Corey said NYC validated my opinion of him is certainly a plus.

    I think Author is a complete turncoat and has indeed sold out all his conservative principles and negated just about everything he said here for years. I have stated this before. However, I don’t think he actually said he supported Booker for President in 2020/

  148. Mr.Vito says:

    You are all moral disgraces in Corey’s view. It sort of renders his outrage meaningless.

  149. NYCmike says:

    “The six million plus Jews that died in the Holocaust, solely because they were Jews, are already dead and deserved to be remembered as such.”

    -Well said.

  150. NYCmike says:

    “Did Author and Corey list all of Hillary’s cabinet nominees that they wouldn’t confirm?”

    -Author did, I am pretty sure.

    Bitter had 2 of the lists up above.

    I thought there was one more.

  151. Mr.Vito says:

    157 Read the statement again…

  152. NYCmike says:

    ““Did Author and Corey list all of Hillary’s cabinet nominees that they wouldn’t confirm?””

    -Heh, you stuck “Hillary” in there without me noticing.

    Damn you, SOCK!

  153. NYCmike says:

    Yea, yea! %$#*??!!

  154. NYCmike says:

    “Majority Leader Schumer”


  155. NYCmike says:

    That was for Wes…

  156. jason says:

    I have also stated my reservations about Trump, of which there are many.

    But I also stated that any conservative or Republican who voted for Hillary completely lost any moral high ground and criticizing Trump on moral grounds and then voting for Hillary is the ultimate hypocrisy.

    And nobody has been more hypocritical in this process than Author.

  157. Mr.Vito says:

    I heard nothing about a Holocaust statement… I guess if it wasn’t for week-old faux outrage leaking out of the bubble, I would still not know Holocaust Day passed.

  158. jason says:

    The black woman at the CBC election night coverage is a bigger joke than Van Jones.

  159. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump twitter: “Iran is playing with fire – they don’t appreciate how “kind” President Obama was to them. Not me!”

    If I was Iran, I would take this seriously. Obama always backed down; he had no backbone, and was afraid to use force. Trump is likely going to need to do something to show that he will use force when necessary.

  160. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rasmussen now has Trump at 54% approval. Up from 51% several days ago.

  161. Mr.Vito says:

    Wait for it to come back down…. then Dave will find it relevant again.

  162. NYCmike says:

    I do hope that Trump is speaking with Mattis before he says these things. Mattis does not seem like the kind of person that would have signed on to a person who takes precipitous actions.

  163. NYCmike says:

    “I heard nothing about a Holocaust statement… ”

    -I had heard about it, and was puzzled by it.

    The media tried to make a story out of it, but it passed rather quickly.

  164. Mr.Vito says:

    Who could’ve dreamed Iran would behave badly… thankfully we didn’t give them any cash to play with…

  165. NYCmike says:

    I did find it odd that the new administration decided to change a long-standing statement regarding the Holocaust.

    I would also say that, like Mr. Vito, I had not realized there was a Holocaust Day.

  166. NYCmike says:


  167. NYCmike says:

    Sorry about that, it just got away from me….

  168. Mr.Vito says:

    They give the same statement every Holocaust Day?

  169. Mr.Vito says:

    How would Trump have run against the Iran Deal if he never had gotten to see it was a “bad deal”… “the worst”…

  170. NYCmike says:

    “They give the same statement every Holocaust Day?”

    -Not the same exact words, but the Jewish people and anti-semitism was always mentioned, as far as I read.

  171. Mr.Vito says:

    Well clearly they are anti-semites. Disgraceful.

  172. NYCmike says:

    -Here is another source, with prior statements.

    I am a little puzzled why the Trump admin would omit those words, but I will need more evidence to say that it was done on purpose.

  173. Mr.Vito says:

    Wait… so only Jews were recognized before?

  174. Mr.Vito says:

    No… I see all the victims were recognized in the past statement.

  175. Wes says:

    I have to admit the Left and the NeverTrumpers are completely unhinged. It’s amusing to watch. The more I see of them, the more I warm to Trump.

    Honestly I never thought I’d say those words.

  176. Mr.Vito says:

    I see why this didn’t really have legs. The people who think Trump is the new Hitler Ran with it… makes sense.

  177. Wes says:

    Godwin’s Law rears its ugly head even in the news.

  178. Mr.Vito says:

    736,000 entered the labor force in January…

  179. NYCmike says:

    “I see why this didn’t really have legs.”

    -Like I said, if there is more evidence forthcoming….

  180. NYCmike says:

    “Honestly I never thought I’d say those words.”

    -I ALWAYS knew you would come around.

  181. Jake says:

    Wes, it is ironic that Cuccinelli become a fierce never Trumper, even late in the election.

  182. Jake says:

    Who is running for AG in Virginia, on the GOP side? The Dem stole it last time

  183. Mr.Vito says:

    Muslim Brotherhood may get terrorist organization status.

  184. NYCmike says:

    Trump was ALWAYS a tough guy to like……except when the “alternative fact” was “President Hillary”.

  185. Jake says:

    190. Considering Egypt gave Morsi a life Sentence, it seems reasonable to do this by Trump

  186. Jake says:

    Well Obama spent 8 years hiding under his desk, so about time a real man came in to the Oval office.

    Iran, Nk etc. will all back down. America is where the money is, and China needs our commerce

  187. Wes says:

    Cuccinelli destroyed the VAGOP to feed his own ego. Why should anyone listen to him?

  188. Barrett says:

    Jake, I agree that Trump is a stronger leader…however…

    Iran is going to try to provoke us in the persian gulf, but this time, we will blow them out of the water.

    We will probably go to war with Iran, and I’m ok with that.

  189. Jake says:

    Wes, do you see any Dem retirements in the senate for 2018?

  190. Mr.Vito says:

    For wvally…

    Luis A. Mendez ?@AuthorLMendez
    Shortly after 2012 I thought 2014 would be a good GOP year. Right now sensing 2018 will be a good Dem year

  191. Phil says:

    Author leaves out his dire prediction for Republicans in 2016.

  192. NYCmike says:

    “CG” to defend Author against Phil in 3….2….1….

  193. NYCmike says:

    The pictures are great! I give them plenty of respect for their willingness to speak out with such gusto on politics and……pro wrestling!

  194. Mr.Vito says:

    Why not? How many times did Hillary relaunch her campaign?

  195. NYCmike says:


    Didn’t you link to several Morrissey pieces during the campaign?

  196. Mr.Vito says:

    He averaged some polls and got more attention than Corey’s hundred meticulous blog posts.

  197. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    I am just hoping that Hillary does not try to become Mayor of NYC.

    Big Bird DeBlasio is bad, but I don’t need to see and/or hear her every day.

  198. Mr.Vito says:

    Isn’t he in some bid trouble for pay for play?

  199. Mr.Vito says:

    Don’t you have a cagey NY Prosecutor?

    Hillary should steer clear.

  200. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has begun rollback of Dodd Frank

  201. NYCmike says:

    I think his name is Preet Bharara.

    Yes, he seems like a good one, honest as well. (as much as I can tell).

    Big Bird may/may not be in trouble. All sorts of speculation in the local media.

  202. NYCmike says:

    Gorsuch was happy that a friend/associate was in love with someone?


  203. Mr.Vito says:

    “In a swift decision, a federal judge refused Friday to extend a restraining order that had halted the implementation of President Trump’s controversial immigration ban in Massachusetts.

    US District Judge Nathaniel M. Gorton said in a 21-page order issued late Friday afternoon that he was sympathetic to the American Civil Liberties Union’s claims that immigrants could suffer irreparable harm from the ban, but he found that the government’s “likelihood of success on the merits weighs most heavily in the decision.”

  204. Mr.Vito says:

    “The Trump administration announced Friday that the Pentagon has reached a tentative deal with Lockheed Martin for the purchase of 90 F-35 jets at the lowest price in the program’s history – saving the government millions, officials said.”

  205. Mr.Vito says:

    Too much winning?

  206. Mr.Vito says:

    214 Sounds good, Mike.

  207. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    I was hoping to read about more US attorneys like him to be appointed by Obama, but nothing so far.

    I am sure they are out there, but still waiting to hear about them.

  208. Conservative Populist says:

    Wes, I refer the right honorable gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago in post #121.

  209. Tiina says:

    So, did Mark lievine say again that we have to take the refugees because the aussies are an ally?

    What a fraud.

    Lievine should jiun never trump and the left.

    If one were to read the article australia indicates that they will not take the refugees period. So why do we?

  210. NYCmike says:

    -Michael Eric Dyson can talk!

    Nothing gets said, but he can TALK!

  211. NYCmike says:

    “So, did Mark lievine say again that we have to take the refugees because the aussies are an ally?”

    -Not sure. Still at work. Haven’t been able to listen to “my hero” all week!

  212. Tiina says:

    What is the total number betwween authors twitter feed viewers and jebot 1s website?

  213. Tiina says:

    Jebot 1 will call me an anti semite for changing his last name around.

  214. Tina says:

    Whoops, corrected my name. Obviously, an error.

  215. NYCmike says:

    Tiina is more worried about herself than Tina is.

  216. NYCmike says:

    Good night.

    “CG”, until tomorrow, when you will be “more right” than today!

  217. Tina says:

    Did John McCain ever call Israel once after all the times Obama screwed them?

    Great auestion, nolte.

  218. CashCow TM says:

    “736,000 entered the labor force in January…”

    And # of jobs rose 276,000?

  219. PresidentPaul! says:

    How many elections including senate elections come down to 1000 votes or less.

    Seems like taking extra Hillary voters is a bad idea.

  220. Mr.Vito says:

    “And # of jobs rose 276,000?”

    Yes, so ‘unemployment’ went up…

  221. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t really have a dog in the NYC-Corey fight,

    Well, that’s what happens when you shoot him.

    What? Too soon? I’m an A-hole.

  222. Mr.Vito says:

    “Stop watching Election Night coverage.”

    Mr. Bitter, the saddest part about election is that MD did not get to have his “F*ck you, Walter” moment like his father did.

  223. Bitterlaw says:

    MD was ready to be relentless if Hillary won. She did not. He could not accept being so wrong.

  224. NYCmike says:

    -Imagine if this happens – Cory would never get dressed again!

  225. NYCmike says:

    “He could not accept being so wrong.”

    -I was planning to be relentless in making sure he never forgot!


    Actually, I would have tired of it… 2020, when Booker was set to run against Trump.

  226. CashCow TM says:

    election coverage

    violent EEOC race

  227. Robbie says:

    The temporary suspension of immigration from seven specific countries should have been an early win for Trump’s administration. Instead, the slipshod way Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller handled the order turned the effort into a PR fiasco. Yes, polling generally supports Trump’s plan, yet it should have been by a wider margin.

    I do get the sense Trump and his team are finding their sea legs, but they fouled up the first two weeks. Apparently, Trump in a meeting earlier this week called a meeting to identify the responsibilities of each senior staff member. Hopefully, that will make the next two weeks far better.

  228. Tina says:


  229. Tina says:

    Kelkyanne conway, wow she just pummeled ugly clintune daughter, chelsea.

  230. Tina says:

    Bosnia lie a Great reminder. And 2 @ChelseaClinton & others, you can’t “invent” quality candidates either. I misspoke; you lost the election

    Lol, conway. You are not team bush. Every attack gets answered, and counterpunched effectively.

  231. Tina says:

    Whoopi Goldberg to Rioting Berkeley Protesters: ‘You’re Not Helping!’

  232. PresidentPaul! says:

    The Truth About the Berkeley Riot

    The mainstream left is tacitly supporting a fascist group that is committing terrorism to crush civil rights in the U.S.

    Let that sink in.

  233. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    240. “yes, polling generally supports Trump’s plan, yet it should have been by a wider margin.”

    Remember that line well, your going to be repeating it a lot over the next four years.

  234. jason says:

    I don’t really have a dog in the NYC-Corey fight,

    Well, that’s what happens when you shoot him.

    What? Too soon? I’m an A-hole.”

    Pretty low, but I would have said the same thing.

  235. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    At this point, the Democrats are fractured, incoherent at times, and do not have a leader.
    Trump is dominating.

    Was with a liberal friend of mine today, who has no use for Trump. But she said to me “you know, I do like some of the things Trump is doing.” The reference was to jobs and shaking up the bureaucracy. I don’t recall any conservatives every saying anything good about Obama.

  236. Bitterlaw says:

    I liked Obama’s drone strikes. There’ something positive.

  237. CashCow TM says:

    Come on!
    Let’s go people!

    Daylight’s burning!

  238. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t recall any conservatives every saying anything good about Obama.”

    -I mentioned above I liked his pick for head US Attorney for the southern district of NY, Preet Bharara.

  239. jason says:

    Corey is having trouble transitioning from Never-Trumpism.

    I have no intention of repeating the MSM talking points against Trump.

    I will support Trump where I can. So far:

    Cabinet picks – mostly pretty good, I don’t care for the Commerce guy.

    Travel ban – I am all for extreme vetting for people from terrorist supporting countries but based on risk not religion.

    Nobody pushes “alternative facts” more than the MSM, so there is nothing “disgraceful” about fighting back.

    Trade – as a supporter of free trade, I think cancellation of the TPP and attacks on Nafta are counterproductive and detrimental to the US in the long run, and the wrong way to “bring jobs back”.
    Trump’s isolationist views on trade are shortsighted and simplistic.

    Deregulation: great. Will do 100 more for US business than artificial protectionist trade policies.

    Gorsuch: great.

    Saber rattling with Iran: I hope there is an actual strategy behind it. So far there is little evidence of that.

    Gorsuch: A+

  240. NYCmike says:

    -This is for Robbie.

    I don’t think it mentioned Bannon at all.

  241. NYCmike says:

    Agree on trade, for the most part. Too many times I have read about violations by other countries that are simply not addressed, either diplomatically or legally.

  242. jason says:

    I supported Obama’s drone war against terrorists and the fact he didn’t abandon Afghanistan.

    I supported his free trade deals despite most Democrats being bought and paid for by the unions and opposing them.

    That’s about it, just about everything else I opposed.

  243. jason says:

    Agree on trade, for the most part. Too many times I have read about violations by other countries that are simply not addressed, either diplomatically or legally.”

    I am not against taking action against violations of the trade deals, but that’s different from doing away with them.

  244. NYCmike says:

    -Robbie, by chance, do you work for TIME magazine?

  245. NYCmike says:

    I would rather see the corporate tax reduced to 10-15% tops, and the reduction of regulations which are being spoken about. That may do more for American industry than the ripping up of trade agreements.

    Hopefully Congress has spent the last month preparing those tax bills……

  246. NYCmike says:

    I am suspicious of any trade deals signed by Obama. Sorry, can’t help it. He has proven himself to be untrustworthy.

  247. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 4, 2017 at 12:07 am
    240. “yes, polling generally supports Trump’s plan, yet it should have been by a wider margin.”
    Remember that line well, your going to be repeating it a lot over the next four years.

    – You’re probably correct, but just imagine how much better things could be if Trump’s White House learned how to execute their actions well.

  248. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 4, 2017 at 10:35 am
    -This is for Robbie.
    I don’t think it mentioned Bannon at all.

    – For every story like this, there is a story like the one Josh Rogin reported in the WaPo today which stated that Steve Bannon tried to stop General Kelly from modifying the immigration order to exempt green card holders. It resulted in a showdown where Kelly said Bannon wasn’t in his chain of command. Trump ultimately never intervened and Kelly won the battle.

    Trump has hired, to my eye, one of the best cabinets I could imagine. I could quibble with a pick or two, but he has chosen highly respected people. On top of that, he hit a grand slam home run when he chose Neil Gorsuch. He deserves a lot of praise for these moves.

    Yet, Trump has chosen to do the exact opposite with his White House staff. It really looks and acts like the Island of Misfit Toys. Steven Bannon, Stephen Miller, and a few others have shown almost immediately they are more interested in pushing their own personal agendas to the exclusion of the top flight cabinet secretaries Trump has chosen.

    One reason so many people surprisingly voted for Trump is they believed, as a great businessman, he would be a great manager of the government. These last two weeks have dented that view though. He would be well advised to professionalize his staff and move beyond the cadre of campaign aides who aided his worst impulses during the campaign.

  249. Robbie says:

    I support free trade, but I do think Trump makes a good point when he says the deals should be bi-lateral and not multi-lateral. It makes it much easier to police them.

  250. Robbie says:

    Here’s the story from Josh Rogin about Bannon and Kelly.

    Edward-Isaac Dovere
    Verified account

    Bannon went to DHS Sec. to give him an order re ban. Kelly said he only takes orders from president -via @joshrogin

  251. Jake says:

    Robbie, your first mistake is quoting the Fake News Washington Post. I stop reading when I see their garbage.

    You should know better.

  252. NYCmike says:

    Not signed in to WAPO.

    The story names names? Or is it “sources”?

  253. Jake says:

    The same WaPo, that showed Trump losing Va by 20% one week before the Vote.

    Also owned by Evil Never Trumper Bezos. The same guy that wants to put Condos on Mars.

  254. Jake says:

    Mike, when will Robbie learn? Must be that Bush family trance he is in.

    The MSM is fake news, whether National or Local. The Election proved that.

  255. Jake says:

    Wonder if Lady Adam’s Apple, will bash Trump at Halftime. Will the No Talent Diva lip Sync with Tony Bennett?

  256. Wes says:


    Condos on Mars would be a great idea with all the hot, nubile red women there:

  257. Wes says:

    Lady Gaga is just scary.

  258. Jake says:

    Wes, tried to catch you yesterday. You think any Dem Senators up in 2018 will retire?

  259. Robbie says:

    I wondered how long it would take the usual suspects to say the story from the Washington post was fake news. If the fake news charge is how the Trump cultists are going to swat away each and every story they don’t like, then they’re only doing themselves a disservice.

    Of course, it’s no surprise the same people who supported the most unelectable Senate candidates the party could possibly find want to dismiss stories they don’t like as fake news.

  260. Wes says:

    Hard to say, Jake.

    King isn’t a Dem per se but looks like a potential retirement prospect. Feinstein may well go. As for the ones from Trump states, I imagine Schumer will try to keep them around. Tester, Heitkamp, Donnelly, Brown, Baldwin, Casey, and Nelson have no obvious Dem successors.

    McCaskill looks weak, but it’s unclear if Kander after losing can make a successful run for her seat. Stabenow is one of the Senators I hate the most, but I doubt she even contemplates retirement given how ineffectual the MIGOP is in fielding candidates. (Seriously in 2014–2014!–the MIGOP couldn’t get Mike Rogers to run for the seat of a retiring Carl Levin against a C-list Congressman like Gary Peters.)

    Menendez may have to resign rather than retire.

    Beyond those, I see no realistic potential retirement prospects, especially since Klobuchar, the Bimbette, and Warren will be gearing up for presidential runs in 2020.

  261. Robbie says:

    Jake says:
    February 4, 2017 at 11:57 am
    Wes, tried to catch you yesterday. You think any Dem Senators up in 2018 will retire?

    – Diane Feinstein seems to be the only one seriously considering retirement and her seat is not winnable.

    Schumer seems to have convinced his vulnerable candidates to run again. First, it’s hard to beat incumbent. Second, the out party almost always does well in midterm elections. Third, while the map looks daunting, no one knows how Trump will be viewed in two years.

    At this point in 2013, Republicans looked to be in a mess, yet they won 9 seats 21 months later. The map matters so Democrats are on total defense, but Trump is an unknown who could produce a 60 seat Senate or surprise Democrats results.

  262. Jake says:

    273. Robbie you are still in denial. How anyone can quote a source that was proven to be in the tank for Clinton, is beyond me?

  263. Jake says:

    Wes, is LePage viable if he ran against King?

  264. Jake says:

    2002 was a good year for the GOP against the grain, but that after 9/11?

    I think 1982 was decent for the GOP in Reagan’s two year itch? Senate wise, not House

  265. NYCmike says:

    My thought as well, Jake.

    Does the story say who said what, and is it verified?

    Otherwise, I take it with a LARGE BOWL of salt.

  266. Wes says:

    I’d say Poliquin would be a better candidate than LePage against King.

    Given the makeup of the Class One Senate seats, I give Democrats 0% chance of recapturing the Senate next year. I imagine Republicans can have decent gains of three to six seats. Had Hillary won though, the GOP would be poised for a hefty gain in the Senate.

  267. Wes says:

    Republicans have gained Senate seats in their own midterms in 1898, 1902, 1906, 1970, 1982, and 2002.

    The last time they were this far down in a single Senate class was 1970. They made a net gain of two Senate seats that year, mildly offsetting the 1958 and 1964 blowouts.

    I expect something similar next year.

  268. NYCmike says:


    I did not call it “fake news”.

    I asked if the article states which person said this about Bannon and Kelly, and will they go ON RECORD saying so.

    If not, it is just a rumor, not fact, and thereby suspect information.

  269. Wes says:

    For comparison, Democrats have gained Senate seats in their own midterms in 1886, 1914, 1934, and 1962.

  270. Mr.Vito says:

    “If the fake news charge is how the Trump cultists are going to swat away each and every story they don’t like, then they’re only doing themselves a disservice.”

    Well, Australia and Mexico both said there were several “alternative facts” in the last story about the phone calls.

    They’ve done it to themselves.

  271. Wes says:

    RIP Imdb message boards…


  272. Mr.Vito says:

    And there is nothing “Trump cultist” about being skeptical about these certain news organizations… it is actually the heavily mainstream view.

    If you are taking them all word for word, especially from anonymous sources, you are actually out of the American mainstream.

  273. NYCmike says:

    Since Robbie has not answered the question, I’ll take it that NOBODY has been interviewed from the Trump White House, and any “reports” about a fight between Bannon and Flynn are false.

    The best part about Robbie’s link is that the story is plausible, but why would he want to deal in rumors? If there is no first-hand account, just say so, and move on.

  274. NYCmike says:


    When will the conversation between Trump and Putin be leaked?

  275. NYCmike says:

    One other piece: This person, MILO, who I am now being acquainted with on a broader scale due to “anti-fascists” NOT ALLOWING him to speak at UC Berkeley – what is the deal with him? Why such protests, and why would universities, Democrats, and media try to categorize him as a racist, a white supremacist, or that is he anti-woman?

  276. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    261. – “You’re probably correct, but just imagine how much better things could be if Trump’s White House learned how to execute their actions well.”

    Am not sure your right, Trump has been in the combative mode for two years, and won the presidency and preserved the Republican majorities in Congress.

    His supporters want a fighter, not a clone of the ineffectual Republicans leadership, who were being kicked around like empty cans by Obama. Trump won because the establishment Republicans were viewed as being ineffective and weak.

  277. Mr.Vito says:

    “…what is the deal with him?”

    Just watch his videos… you will see why the left finds him ‘dangerous’.

  278. Wes says:


    1) George W. Bush says Putin is a good man after looking into his eyes.

    2) Mitt Romney warns Putin is dangerous.

    3) Obama derides Romney’s warning.

    4) Putin begins a war of expansion in Asia.

    5) Democrats claim Putin stole the election for Trump.

    6) Haley warns Russia the US is no friend of his.

    Oddly the one President accused of being a Putin stooge is standing up to Putin.

  279. Mr.Vito says:

    Berkeley was the last stop of his “Dangerous F@ggot Tour”…

  280. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Romney interview from Utah newspaper:

    Mitt Romney said Friday he has no regrets about criticizing then candidate Donald Trump in a stinging speech last year but now sees the new president as having “obviously gotten off to a very strong start.”

    Romney also said he didn’t regret being considered by the president to serve as secretary of state. The job went to former Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson after a high-profile search that included a dinner meeting between Romney and Trump.

    “I had very good meetings with, at that point, President-elect Trump,” Romney said, adding that he was encouraged that Trump “was willing to talk to me, given the fact that I had been so critical.”

  281. Mr.Vito says:

    “obviously gotten off to a very strong start.”

    Another Trump cultist…

  282. NYCmike says:


  283. NYCmike says:

    Yes, watching some of the videos…quite entertaining…..wondering if it is the British accent…..I think there was a “Friends” episode when Ross lectured with a British accent to make him sound more interesting…just kidding…don’t agree with everything he says, but he seems harmless, unless you are trying to silence people of opposing viewpoints.

  284. Mr.Vito says:

    Look for the left to destroy Nikki…

    She has a chance to be the first female president.

  285. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats have their own tea party. They are descending into chaos:

  286. Mr.Vito says:

    “…don’t agree with everything he says, but he seems harmless, unless you are trying to silence people of opposing viewpoints.”

    Pretty much my take… I prefer Ben Shapiro most of the time. But Milo is a very entertaining provocateur.

    Yes he is gay, jewish, british and prefers black men. He says he prefers to be called a “race-mixing k!ke f@ggot”… as a poke at PC culture. He is a Catholic by practice.

  287. NYCmike says:

    I do like Shapiro as well, and my nephew just told me about the Gavin….can’t remember his name, and a woman, Laura Southern.

    Entertaining videos, and ones that I will need to send to some friends.

  288. NYCmike says:

    The Gavin guy just got shut down at NYU….

  289. Mr.Vito says:

    It seems a lot more people are going to be exposed to Milo’s speeches now that Berkeley has sparked so much curiosity… let them keep digging their graves.

  290. NYCmike says:

    Sorry, but I want to make sure Author knows I am supporting his new endeavors.

  291. NYCmike says:

    The Federalist is publishing “Nazi Garbage” according to Author. Interesting……I think Dilbert said something about that!

  292. NYCmike says:

    M…….D……?@formmb 18h18 hours ago

    @AuthorLMendez Agree. I was very vocal about Obama’s EO’s. Trump’s are obviously misguided. No to emperor’s from either party.

  293. NYCmike says:

    Seems like someone else is noticing Author’s Twitter feed.

    I would agree about EO’s….I don’t necessarily like them, especially when they are UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    NOW, if Trump’s EO was unconstitutional, then please link to that ruling, and lets make sure the EO is overruled.

  294. NYCmike says:

    MD…I wonder if he will post a picture of himself drinking Grey Goose!

  295. NYCmike says:

    Is that a different M…..D……?

  296. NYCmike says:

    “Add Romney to the list of Vichy Republicans.”

    -Yes, I do believe it is.

  297. NYCmike says:

    “Don’t agree with Milo but he should be allowed to speak. Best disinfected is sunshine.”

    -But we do agree about freedom of speech.

  298. Bitterlaw says:

    I know MD is on Twitter. I just won’t reveal his real name. The old timers know it.

    I have complained about the EOs, too.

  299. Bitterlaw says:

    Vichy Republicans is an MD phrase. There are 2 guys on Twitter with the same name MD is the longer form of M.

  300. NYCmike says:


    If you noticed, I took out the rest of the name.

    I should have taken out the time stamp as well.

    Sorry about that.

  301. NYCmike says:

    Just an interesting find on Author’s feed, along with the wrestling and review of “Finding Dory”.

  302. Mr.Vito says:

    Let’s just remember Author said there isn’t even one Beatles song he would put on a playlist…

  303. PresidentPaul! says:

    Cabot Phillips @cabot_phillips Feb 2
    Conservatives pass out constitutions on campus: 3 students arrested

    Liberals burn UC Berkley: 0 students arrested

    Let that sink in.

  304. PresidentPaul! says:

    Berkeley Antifa Attacker Unmasked As UC Employee? CNN and Young Turks Lookin’ So Dumb

    “Today, propagandists on the left attempted to change the narrative over the violent “Antifa” riots, suggesting that Trump supporters were secretly behind the group’s spate of violent terrorist acts since the election:

  305. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – No big deal. As long as the info didn’t come from me it is not my fault. MD can’t blame me.

    Somebody’s at the door…..aaarrfgrersfsdfgfgdfg

  306. NYCmike says:

    -MILO roasting the Clintons….sounded very confident about a Trump victory.

  307. Wes says:

    What made Author drift left?

    Surely Trump alone didn’t do that.

  308. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes -I think that once Author declared himself to be the voice of a new generation and cast his lot with Hillary, he had to go all in.

  309. Robbie says:

    Author was a Rubio guy who seemed to be more about Marco than the party or the conservative movement. That’s fine. Plenty of people are more attached to personalities than party.

    There were also plenty of us who chose not support Trump for various reasons, but decided to lay down our swords once the election was over. I know that’s what I decided to do even though there was going to be plenty about the next four years I was likely not to like.

    All that said, it does disappoint me to see some who have been part of the party or the conservative movement act as though they’re Japanese soldiers on deserted islands who had no idea the was was over. If nominal Republicans or conservatives don’t like Trump, that’s reasonable. I just don’t get why they feel the need to actively work against him. The future of the Republican Party depends on his success.

    At this point, I have run out of use for guys like Bill Kristol or Rubio’s media adviser Rick Wilson. Both have become prominent guests on cable because they are willing to call Trump all sorts of names. It’s their right, but we shouldn’t forget they decided to continue #neverTrump long after the war ended.

  310. Robbie says:

    John Fund at National Review says the working premise right now is a woman will be chosen to replace Anthony Kennedy. It would be smart since it would make a Democrat filibuster (assuming it hasn’t been nuked already) unlikely. Would Democrats want to launch their own War on Women by denying a woman a place on the Supreme Court.

    In light of Fund’s report, here are the four woman who appear on Trump’s list. It should be noted, though, Trump did not promise to make all of his SCOTUS picks from the list. Regardless, the names are:

    Diana Sykes
    Joan Larsen
    Allsion Eid
    Margaret Ryan

    Sykes has long been a conservative star, but she will be 60 soon. That’s a drawback when it comes to SCOTUS choices these days.

    Larsen is my choice among the four. She’s just 48 and is a member of the Michigan Supreme Court. She is a Scalia clerk and the only former clerk who spoke at his memorial. She was very close to him. She also worked in OLC, but may have played some role in the “torture” memos.

    Eid is a member of the Colorado Supreme Court and is just 51. She was a clerk for Clarence Thomas and written favorable about many conservative viewpoints.

    Margaret Ryan is an appeals court judge for the military. She is in her early 50’s as well and served in the Marines during Desert Storm. She was a clerk for conservative icons Michael Luttig and Clarence Thomas. Her drawback is, well, her look. Sad as it is to say, that may disqualify her with Trump.

    My first pick would be Larsen followed by Eid.

  311. Walt says:

    At Morgantown. WVU OKLA St game. WV started off down 12-2. 2nd half WVU LEADS 50-46.

    GO EERS!

  312. Walt says:

    WVU dpwn 61-58

  313. NYCmike says:

    I have already endorsed Margaret “Meg” Ryan to be the next SC justice.

    Even Hollywood won’t be able to fight against their own star!

  314. Tina says:

    So, it was not the russians that hacked, per gp site.
    They link the article to the daily caller.

    The Daily Caller goes on to state that one of the possible computer systems that may have been hacked in connection to these three brothers belongs to Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Schultz served as the chairman for the DNC when the now infamous DNC hacks took place during the 2016 presidential campaign. Many Democrats and media outlets reported for months, with little evidence, that the Russians were behind the hacks in a deliberate attempt to help President Trump win the election.

  315. Tina says:

    Md needs to return. Oh well, i saw posts from marv the other day. Glad that he still posts.

  316. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – I’m not convinced that Trump even wants a second term. I think he wanted to win because that’s what he does. Being President my bore him. He may step down after one term. Or not. Impossible to predict him.

    I guess some NeverTrump people are determined to see him fail to validate their beliefs. The problem is that if he fails, the even more radicalized Democrats and leftists will come into power. I only wanted Hillary to lose and I accepted Trump as the only way to make that happen. That does not mean I have to approve of everything he does. I wish twitter would block him.

  317. Phil says:


    Larsen or Eid would be my choices. Either would be great IMO. Solid conservative credentials and their age makes them very solid choices.

    It won’t keep the senate Democrats from trying to Palinize them, but it wouldn’t be that easy.

  318. Phil says:

    Wouldn’t surprise me either, Bitter, to see Trump call it quits after one term.

  319. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – How is your wife doing? How are you doing?

  320. Robbie says:

    So it seems Fox is releasing tidbits of Trump’s Super Bowl Sunday interview with O’Reilly.

    So far, Trump seemed to marginalize Putin’s killing by noting our country isn’t perfect either.

    Trump also doubled down on his claim 3-5 million illegals voted in the election.

    Here’s a thought to PR department at the White House. Stop giving interviews. Stop allowing Trump to act like an old fool at the bar yelling at the TV.

  321. Robbie says:


    I think the idea Trump might stand down after one term is as fanciful and the idea he might get overthrown at the convention or quit after the Khan or Access Hollywood stories. In fact, Trump already filed for re-election on January 21.

    Trump standing down would go against his entire history as a public person. Trump fashions himself as a counter puncher. To quit would defy that image.

    That said, I have consistently been wrong about every Trump prediction. I do think 55% of the country is ready to embrace him, but he seems unwilling to ease the concerns about his temperament.

  322. Robbie says:

    Pre-election polling and election day exits polls suggested a big issue voters had with Trump was his temperament. As we found out, people were willing to look past that in a race against Hillary Clinton.

    Now Trump’s the president, but the issues about temperament remain. Regrettably, the only good days he’s had a president were inauguration day and the day he selected Neil Gorsuch. Many of the rest have been middling or even bad.

    If he fixes the temperament concern, he’ll be fine. But that might mean fewer tweets and far fewer interviews. I suspect he’ll continue to tweet and talk, though.

  323. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – I am not predicting that he will step down. I just think he might get bored with the job. Despite all of the powers that he has, he can’t fire Congress or SCOTUS. Who knows if he want to continue in the job until he is 78. He could have two new wives by then.

  324. Trump says:

    Fu$&ed up Trump haters like Robbie are giving advice to Trump?

    Why don’t you F off, as-wipe losers?

    Ant the morons opining whether Trump will run for second term. Or not should check their predictions about trump getting the nomination. Or whether trump would implode.

    Morons will never learn.

  325. Trump says:

    A Jeb cov$sucker thinks Trump is no doing well.

    Well, the sun rises in the east.

  326. Trump says:

    How’s the brokered convention coming along, idiots?

  327. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, in the real world, Trump filed for re-election on Jan 20, 2017.

    Notice the date?

    As of Jan 30, the campaign had raised $16m

  328. BayernFan says:

    economic growth and the self destruction of the “counter-revolution” will push Trump’s approval to 60% a year from now.

  329. Robbie says:


    I guess anything’s possible, but, short of a major illness, I expect Trump, whether bored or frustrated, will run again.

  330. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    February 4, 2017 at 8:41 pm
    economic growth and the self destruction of the “counter-revolution” will push Trump’s approval to 60% a year from now.

    – If that prediction comes true, then you will have scored the coup of coups.

    I think it’s more likely he’s at 60% disapproval, but I have been wrong about Trump at every step of the way.

    I think 45% approval is the new 50% for Trump. As long as he’s at 45% or so, he’s fine and the party will be fine. Below that, not so much.

  331. BayernFan says:

    I thought I already scored the coup of coups with my election predictions

  332. Trump says:

    Who believes the poll numbers?

    How many polls in mich, wisc, penn predicted Trump?

    Only morons think the polls are not systematically biased.

  333. Trump says:

    45% in public polls means Trump will be reaching 400 ev’s.

  334. Trump says:

    On Election Day, exit polls showed 37 percent approval for Trump.

    And that resulted in 306 ev’s.

  335. Tina says:

    The same drats advising trump here


  336. Tina says:

    Pence moves into Speaker Ryan’s House neighborhood

    What about the ky blue rino?

    Seems like we need a new majority leader.

  337. Tina says:

    Useless ryano and even more useless blue rino.

  338. Trump says:

    It’s been a month since this congress convened.

    Can anyone point to what they have done?

  339. Trump says:

    The senate got a few nominees confirmed.

    Has the House done.anything?

  340. Tina says:

    Blue rino has been drunk

    Ryano has been lifting dumbells

    Mcamnesty thought he was president

    And goober graham wants another war.

    That is all the r congress has done. Nothing.

    Only six cabinet choices appointed. 21 under w when the election was disputed.

  341. Tina says:

    They wont repeal obumblercare

    They wont cut spending

    They wont chop agencies

    They wont cut taxes.

  342. Trump says:

    It seems Trump,has to do everything.

  343. Walt says:

    Mother Duck.

    WVU lost by 7.
    Lots of top ranked teams lost tonight.
    WVU, U of VA, Univ. of MD, Baylor. …

  344. Trump says:

    Congress seems to be nothing more than useless piece of shi$.

  345. Phil says:

    Bitter, I am doing fine. My wife is hanging in there, but is getting progressively weaker which we knew was inevitable. I am afraid the day when we have to make some hard decisions is getting closer. For now, we are managing ok. Thanks for asking.

  346. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – I am sorry to hear that things are getting worse but I know that your wife will fight harder than you can imagine. Politics is so irrelevant at times like this. Good luck.

  347. janz says:

    Phil, what is your wife’s diagnosis? Bitter is so correct in saying that politics is so irrelevant when it’s compared to health problems.

  348. Mr.Vito says:

    Included in this is Robbie’s article about Bannon, which says Bannon did not visit Kelly on the day they say this meeting occurred.

  349. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie still has not commented on the portions of phone call stories that turned out to be incorrect…

    That is also mentioned there… Phil was correct to bensure skeptical.

  350. Trump says:

    The Jeb sucker Robbie is a deem troll sent by the doc to parrot their talking points.

  351. PresidentPaul! says:

    “They wont cut taxes.”

    Part of that is Trump’s fault for not blasting revenue neutral “tax cuts” from day one.

    It’s impossible to have a tax cut if it’s revenue neutral.

    When you hear a republican talking about revenue neutral cuts (aka Paul Ryan) that means they oppose any and all tax cuts.

  352. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    How nice. Obama given money away to the U.N. He so generous with taxpayer money

    Perhaps he should have thrown a few dollars at his home town of Chicago — which is now a crime infested slaughterhouse; with 3,550 shootings and 762 murders in 2016 alone. He used the city as the springboard for his political career, but once gone could care less about it. Maybe when he finishes his visits to his billionaire friends; he will go back to Chicago and attempt to end the violence . . . but no, apparently his golf game is beckoning in Palm Springs. Why leftists swoon over Obama is beyond me.

  353. jason says:

    He doesn’t view it as taxpayer’s money. Liberals believe there is such a thing as government money.

  354. jason says:

    How’s the brokered convention coming along, idiots?”

    How did your prediction Trump would lose and drag down the entire GOP work out for you, moron?

  355. jason says:

    I will be rooting against the Cheatriots, but not for the Falcons.

    Sue me.

    But I have to admit Brady’s willingness to say F–k you to the politically correct morons and support Trump shows he may be a cheater, but a cheater with cojones.

  356. Wes says:

    Go, Patriots!

  357. Wes says:

    You do have to admire Brady. He banged a superhot actress and later married a Brazilian supermodel.

    Living the American Dream…

  358. jason says:

    The same MSM that was just outraged that the courts would not approve Obama’s suspension of immigration laws by executive order are elated the courts won’t approve Trump’s travel ban.

  359. jason says:

    Then banged the nanny.

    Like Arnold, also living the American Dream.

  360. jason says:

    “The Jeb sucker Robbie is a deem troll sent by the doc to parrot their talking points.”

    Hey, doc, stop sending trolls here.

  361. Wes says:

    What is “the doc”?

    Is it some kind of secret society like the Illuminati?

  362. Wes says:

    Brady banged his nanny?

    I have to admit my admiration for him just went up a thousandfold.

    Only Charlie Sheen can possibly be a greater role model.

  363. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    February 4, 2017 at 8:52 pm
    On Election Day, exit polls showed 37 percent approval for Trump.
    And that resulted in 306 ev’s.

    – This is a very fair point. The one caveat I have is he no longer has Hillary Clinton as a foil.

  364. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    February 4, 2017 at 10:48 pm
    Robbie still has not commented on the portions of phone call stories that turned out to be incorrect…
    That is also mentioned there… Phil was correct to bensure skeptical.

    – With work, I wasn’t aware there were issues with the story. It looks like Josh Rogin has hit a very rough patch.

  365. Robbie says:

    As much as I hate to say it, Laura Ingraham made a good point on Twitter. Trump and his team discovered the pitfalls of enacting such a serious order without the AG or Solicitor General in place. It’s doubtful these mistakes would have happened if Sessions had overseen the process instead of Bannon and Miller.

  366. Bitterlaw says:

    I am torn on the Super Bowl. Usually, I would support the Northern team over the Southern team. (In an East-West showdown, I support the Eastern team). However, the Patriots rank 2d on my hate list (Dallas is first). There fore….Go Falcons.

  367. NYCmike says:

    “With work, I wasn’t aware there were issues with the story.”

    -And when others asked questions or mentioned other issues the WAPO had, you called them names or mocked them.

    You will learn to keep your trap shut and listen eventually, I hope.

  368. NYCmike says:

    Yup, the words “Bannon and Miller” were said again.

    A daily occurrence in Robbie’s World.

    Those two have taken the place of Halperin, Schmidt, etc.

    All is well!

  369. NYCmike says:

    -Can someone Twit this over to MD? He might be interested in what Welch has to say.

    Or maybe he will just call him a Vichy General Electrician.

  370. NYCmike says:

    -Reading this article, I wonder if it would be good to have this go to the Supreme Court w/ only 8 justices.

    If it is unconstitutional, then the right-leaning judges would, I hope, rule that it is unconstitutional.

    If it is constitutional, let’s get the liberal justices on record as saying it is or isn’t. Make them write an opinion.**

    ** in cases where a judgment is deadlocked 4-4, are there even written opinions?

  371. NYCmike says:

    -Janet Napolitano, who worked for Obama, is the President of the UC system. Amazing how these Dems are everywhere in media and academia!

  372. Barrett says:

    Brady is a cheater, end of story. I hope the Falcons crush them, I hope he throws a little crybaby fit that seems to be so typical of him.

  373. PresidentPaul! says:

    The Trump admin begins to rot

    I don’t mean someone that we on the left like to call a “war criminal,” such as Henry Kissinger or Dick Cheney. These people might actually qualify, but the cases are at best arguable, and no one in authority has ever been asked to rule on them. Not so for Trump’s potential pick, the onetime neocon golden boy (and son-in-law to Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter) Elliott Abrams.

    The course of Abrams’s failing-upward career reveals the moral rot at the heart of our political establishment.
    Like Trump himself, Abrams has behaved so badly in so many different arenas, it actually works in his favor: No one can keep up.

  374. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump is pumping up the swamp to huge levels.

  375. Wes says:

    It’s not whether the Patriots win or lose, Barrett. It’s whether they cover the spread.

  376. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 5, 2017 at 11:48 am
    “With work, I wasn’t aware there were issues with the story.”

    You will learn to keep your trap shut and listen eventually, I hope.

    – Says the guy who backed Angle, COD, Buck, Mourdock, McDaniel, and the various other nuts. Maybe you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to choosing viable Senate candidates?

  377. jason says:

    “The Trump admin begins to rot”


    I predicted Bunu would soon revoke his support for Trump.

    Trump is going to invest big bucks in our “standing Army” that Bunu hates so much.

  378. jason says:

    Wobbie, you forgot Akin, NYC’s team of deadenders would not be complete without him.

  379. jason says:

    Oh, and Miller. of course. You know, NYC’s hero that lost to a write-in candidate.

  380. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Just so it is clear, what the federal judge in Washington did was issue a temporary restraining order (TRO) until a hearing is held on the immigration executive order. There was not a ruling on its merits — which will not be made until a hearing is held. The judge expressly stated the TRO was to preserve the “status quo”.

    Most people seem to think the way Trump issued his executive order was sloppy. At the same time polling indicates that the majority of people support the limitation on immigration Trump is proposing. Trump should drop the appeal of the TRO, and focus on the hearing. By then then issues that Trump is getting the bad publicity on will mostly resolve.

    This whole episode is good reason for the Senate to move quickly on approving Sessions as AG.

    In particular, am concerned about Iraqis who fought and helped the U.S. military, and were promised safety in the U.S., being denied entry. That sets a dangerous precedent for future military actions; Trump should be at the airport welcoming this people.

  381. CashCow TM says:

    Big snowstorm in the Middle East.

    Bitter supporting the southern team in the Super bowl.

    The apocalypse is near at hand.

  382. Walt says:

    At the WVU-OKLA ST game where WVU as beaten at home…

    OK ST. Cowboys shot about 60% from 3 point range.

    WVU continues to beat top ranked teams and teams in the top 1/2 of their conference, but continue to struggle against unranked teams and teams in lower 1/2 of conference.

    I witnessed my first in person defeat of the Mountaineers in their home coliseum.

    It was a sad day for me.

  383. NYCmike says:

    “Says the guy who backed”

    -Hey Robbie, along with jason,

    Get it right, please! Don’t be like the media.

    YES, I SUPPORT THE RIGHT OF ALL challengers to primary an incumbent. It is up to the incumbent to make sure they are aware of the issues their voters care about. That RIGHT goes to someone challenging either a squish like a Graham, or McCain, to a stalwart conservative like Cruz, Lee, or a Scott.

    Now, did I support all of those people in the primary? No, and that has already been established.

    But because Robbie was made to look like an arse due to his irrational devotion to the Washington Post, which is a very liberal-Democrat-oriented newspaper, he decided to respond like an even bigger A-Hole…..jason.

  384. NYCmike says:

    Robbie’s employment as a pilot really shows….he aims for the stars when he tries to emulate jason.

  385. NYCmike says:

    Sorry, Walt, but get over it!

    Don’t let it affect you like you did when Philippides tripped you on that last mile before getting into downtown Athens. After all, he could have asked for your help running back to the troops, but he said you could stay and go to the baths instead.

  386. NYCmike says:

    -Hold his feet to the fire! The best way to do that would be thru Congress.

    Mitch, Paul, where are the corporate tax-cut bills? Where are the repeal and replace bills? Where are the bills allowing for states to sell insurance, and citizens to buy insurance, across state lines?

  387. jason says:

    he decided to respond like an even bigger A-Hole…..jason.”

    Wow, NYC is really confused.

    Wobbie is not an A-hole, he could be an a-hole.

    I know everyone wants to be an A-hole, but nominations are closed.

    I might add that Wobbie’s application would be DOA however.

  388. jason says:

    YES, I SUPPORT THE RIGHT OF ALL challengers to primary an incumbent.”

    This is a lie….

    Translation: I supported COD, Akin, Miller, Angle, Mourdock, Buck, McDaniel and thus supported deadenders that cost Republicans 5 seats.

    The “I only supported the right” is of course a crock of crap, NYC not only defended the “right” he supported many of these candidates against any criticism of them.

    Nobody ever questioned “the right” of anyone to run for anything, that is a silly red herring.

  389. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    406. “Mitch, Paul, where are the corporate tax-cut bills?”

    Before a corporate tax-cut bill is passed, the issue of large corporations, such as tech corps., sheltering much of their income overseas and hardly paying any taxes needs to be addressed. When corporations like Google and Apple pay only 2-4% in tax on U.S. income, it is unfair to the average taxpayer.

    Lets not forget that Trump was not elected by Wall Street, much of which went for Hillary. The Googles and Apples of the world learned to warble Obama’s “progressive” rhetoric, knowing they would be basically exempt from paying for the costs it entailed. The free ride is over.

  390. jason says:

    I want to be on record as supporting the right of NYC to lie his ass off and say stupid things.

  391. Walt says:

    “…when Philippides tripped you on that last mile…”

    How did you know about his dastardly action?
    I think PHILippindes was one of the original PHILly A-Holes.

    And I told him so.

  392. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Note to Liz: The horrors of global warming continue:

  393. Trump says:

    Has Paul Ryan done anything since congress came back on Jan 6th?

    Has McConnell?

  394. CashCow TM says:

    What are the Las Vegas odds that Lady GAGA will wear:

    a MUMU
    GOGO boot
    will POOH POOH DJT
    step in DOO DOO and fall and get a BOO BOO.

    If she would do the last one, I would go HA HA.

  395. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ABC News:

    “In the U.S. House, Republicans will be aided by favorable district boundaries that were drawn to maintain GOP political dominance. In some cases, the congressional districts were gerrymandered to pack high numbers of Democratic voters into just a few districts as a way to create a greater number of Republican-leaning seats.”

    Actually, a major cause of districts having an “over-saturation”of Democratic voters is Supreme Court rulings requiring districts be drawn so that African-Americans and other demographic groups can have majority districts. In many cases districts are now drawn under this ruling that have 90%+ Democratic majorities. this leaves Republicans more likely to win other districts.

    Redistricting based on demographics (“communities of interest”) makes it very hard for the Democrats to ever get a majority in the House, and the demographic groups benefited will never agree to any change.

  396. jason says:

    Has Paul Ryan done anything since congress came back on Jan 6th?

    Has McConnell?”

    I don’t think Soccer Moron has ever heard of separate branches of government.

  397. Trump says:

    So the la raza pimp could not show what Ryan and mcconnel have done for a month?

    Thought so.

    What do they do all day?

  398. jason says:

    Trump better get along with McConnell and Ryan. It was ok to demonize them during the primaries if that got him votes, but now there is not much to be gained in antagonizing them now. It might be red meat for his core supporters, but the election is over, there are different goals now.

    If Trump can’t get any of his agenda passed he will be very unpopular. And he is not getting his agenda passed without Ryan and McConnell.

    He would be smart to get along with them, they are not going anywhere.

  399. Trump says:

    Tump doesn’t care. He is not up in 2018.

  400. Trump says:

    Notice that Ryan seems to be the invisible man.

  401. jason says:

    Tump doesn’t care. He is not up in 2018.”

    He will be a lame duck if Rs don’t keep the Senate and the House.

    Of course he could go back to being a Democrat and have a majority either way.

  402. Trump says:

    As I said, seems like a problem for the GOP, not Trump.

  403. Trump says:

    The popularity of the GOP congtress resulted in Trump.

    Ha ha ha ha.

  404. jason says:

    Tump doesn’t care. He is not up in 2018.”

    Zzzzzz…. the GOP kicked ass in 2014 without Trump.

    Senators have no reason to be cowed by Trump, considering that contrary to Soccer Moron’s predictions, all of them that kept their distance from him won re-election anyway and in fact did better than he did. The exception was Kirk, who was toast anyway, but still got more votes than Trump.

    This is not to say that I don’t want Congress to implement most of Trump’s agenda, I am just making the case that they should work together.

  405. jason says:

    Amazing a guy who was shot down in WWII is still around to do a coin toss in 2017.

  406. jason says:

    Trump got elected by saying he was a deal maker.

    He should be able to deal with McConnell and Ryan if he is such a good negotiator.

  407. jason says:

    Go Falcons, underdogs sometimes win.

  408. jason says:

    Nice stop.

  409. Trump says:

    He can easily make deal with schemer.

    As I said, GOP is up for reelection in 2918. Not Trump.

    He can win again by running against both Dems and Reps.

    Been there, done that.

  410. Trump says:


  411. Trump says:

    And to piss off GOP, he should withdraw Gorsuch and re-nominate Merrick Garland.

  412. jason says:

    Wow some dude got taken out on the sideline there…

  413. jason says:

    nd to piss off GOP, he should withdraw Gorsuch and re-nominate Merrick Garland.”

    That will go well with conservatives that believed he was going to nominate a conservative.

    Actually I think Gorsuch is an excellent pick.

  414. Trump says:

    Once again for the slow news, seems more a problem for GOP than for Trump.

    Maybe conservatives should talk to the chinless wonder.

  415. jason says:

    The buck stops with Trump. That dog won’t hunt.

  416. jason says:

    Cheatriots look a little shell shocked.

  417. Trump says:

    Again, Trump is not looking for a job in 2018.

  418. jason says:

    As I said, GOP is up for reelection in 2918.”

    Dang, that was one heck of a gerrymandering….

  419. Trump says:

    Let Ryan explain why nothing got accomplished.

    The “popularity” of GOP leadership is how you got Trump.

  420. jason says:

    gain, Trump is not looking for a job in 2018.”

    McConnell and Ryan have seen several Presidents come and go. I don’t think they are worried.

  421. Trump says:

    Neither is Trump worried about Ryan’s job. Or mcconnrell’s.

  422. jason says:

    Ryan explain why nothing got accomplished.”

    He won’t have to. Trump will get the credit or the blame for whatever happens.

    It’s the way it works.

  423. Trump says:

    Trump doesn’t care, his job is not on the line in 2018.

  424. Trump says:

    Ryan’s is.

  425. jason says:

    We will see.

    McConnell and Ryan hold the cards. Nothing happens without them.

    Trump can either negotiate with them or whine about them.

    His choice.

  426. Trump says:

    It’s the way mid terms work.

  427. Trump says:

    Trump holds cards. He signs the checks.

  428. jason says:

    Trump doesn’t care”

    If he wants his agenda implemented, he should care. There is only so much you can do by executive order.

  429. jason says:

    rump holds cards. He signs the checks.”

    Nope, there are only funds for the checks if Congress says so.

    Again, I hope Trump WILL work with Congress because there is a lot that could be done for the country.

  430. jason says:

    3 holding calls in one drive….no comment.

  431. Trump says:

    Why would he care about getting his agenda implemented?

    If he doesn’t get reflected, he hands over the WH to the Dems and goes home. If he does, great,

    I see the loser is the GOP.

  432. Trump says:

    He signs every bill. So he holds all the cards.

  433. jason says:

    Wow, now the Cheatriots REALLY look shell shocked.

  434. jason says:

    Why would he care about getting his agenda implemented?”

    Ahh, ok, if he doesn’t want his agenda implemented then he is on the right track.

    I thought he wanted his agenda implemented.

  435. jason says:

    Some of the Trump supporters might be surprised to know he is not interested in having his agenda implemented.

  436. Trump says:

    Why does he care about implementing Ryan’s agenda?

    How’s that entitlement reform coming along? Or comprehensive immigration reform?

  437. Trump says:

    As I said, he is not beholden to anyone.

    Liberating for him. His agenda getting implemented or not is no skin off his nose.

    Getting his agenda implemented is GOPs problem, not his.

  438. CashCow TM says:

    Atlanta Falcons

    all satan taco fan
    scant fatal loan

  439. Barrett says:

    What a perfect game. I hope LisaB is crying.

  440. jason says:

    Getting his agenda implemented is GOPs problem, not his.”


    Sounds like the green light to implement was is good, trash the rest.

    I completely agree.

  441. jason says:

    That is what is good.

  442. jason says:

    The Falcons are on to Edelman on that crossing pass.

  443. jason says:

    Hmmm… route.

  444. jason says:

    Soccer Moron and I now agree the GOP should only implement what they think is good about Trump’s agenda.

    It had to happen one day.

  445. Trump says:

    La raza pimp thinks trump works for the GOP leadership Ryan and the Turtle.

  446. Trump says:

    GOP will implement what Trump tells them to. Nothing more, nothing less,

    Where’s Ryan’s entitlement reform?

  447. jason says:

    Soccer Moron thinks Congress is going to change the way it operates because of Trump. LOL.

  448. Trump says:

    How’s that TPP coming along?

  449. jason says:

    GOP will implement what Trump tells them to.”

    Hmmmm…. I thought you said they did nothing.

  450. jason says:

    Cheatriots are getting decimated.


  451. Trump says:

    The pimp thinks comprehensive immigration reform is right around the corner.

    Or entitlement reform.

    Or TPP.


  452. jason says:

    The Kia Eco ad was funny.

  453. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, trump EO opened up 8 m illegals for deportation.

    And his dis head has promised border wall in 2 years.

  454. jason says:

    So Soccer Moron, what is it?

    Congress is doing Trump’s will or are they doing nothing?

    It can’t be both.

  455. jason says:

    Zzzzzz, Trump won’t deport anybody but a few criminals and those they can catch crossing from now on.

    You read it here first.

  456. Trump says:

    Here a simple example of how trump has the GOP by the pus$y.

    He nominated Gorsuch, and he is done.

    If Gorsuch is not seated on the SC, guess who gets the blame.

    And, for two-fer, it frees up Trump to nominate Harriet miners or Merrick Garland.

    Trump will be gone in 4-8 years. What does he care who is on the SC for life?

  457. Robbie says:

    How Trump and his team look to recover from a rough first two weeks.

  458. Trump says:

    Whatever trump wante, pimp.

    Remember that, #nevertrump as-wipe.

    How’s that entitlement reform, by the way?

  459. jason says:

    The “wall” is going to be what it should be.. a combination of physical wall, fences, drones, surveillance, etc. With today’s technology, a physical wall is only necessary in some areas.

  460. Trump says:

    So says the fake news nyt.

    And, as usual, the Jeb coc&sufker goes straight to it.

  461. Trump says:

    Ha ha ha.

    The all will be whatever trump wants it to be,

    You heard it here first.

  462. jason says:

    Hey Soccer Moron, do you really think Trump is going to deport 8 million illegals. Or 7? or 6? or 5? or 4? or 3?

  463. Robbie says:

    I agree with Jason. Trump needs McConnell and Ryan. If he can work with them, he can get his and their agenda passed. If he sticks with his primary routine, Trump will get nothing accomplished and be unpopular.

    Given the struggles of the last two weeks, it might be smart for Trump to reduce his public presence and allow Ryan and McConnell to take higher profiles. They know how to operate whereas Trump doesn’t know how to work in Washington.

  464. Trump says:

    Hey law raza pimp, do you think trump will get the nomination?

  465. Trump says:

    Higher profile for Ryan and the Turtle?

    Their negative profile is what got Trump the nomination.

  466. jason says:

    And, for two-fer, it frees up Trump to nominate Harriet miners or Merrick Garland.”

    I thought Trump was supposed to be a conservative?

    I guess not.

  467. jason says:

    Hey law raza pimp, do you think trump will get the nomination?”

    Hey Soccer Moron, do you think Trump will lose and take the entire GOP down with him?

  468. Trump says:

    Trump is trump. He does not care for your labels. And apparently nor do so-called conservatives.

    Or did 2016 did not happen?

  469. Trump says:

    Hey la raza pimp, will trump get to 1237 delegates. Do you see it, fu$&tard?

  470. Trump says:

    Will the GOP enact daffy duck’s agenda?

  471. jason says:

    Trump is quickly discovering, the hard way, that Congress operates according to its own system, and it is not going to change for Trump.

    However, this is a great opportunity to do something good for the country, and I hope Trump doesn’t throw it away by useless fights with Congress.

  472. Trump says:

    GOP congress is not good for the country, never has been,

    If it was, there would be no President Trump.


  473. jason says:

    Soccer Moron is confused.

    First he says the GOP is NOT enacting Trump’s agenda.

    Then he says they are ONLY enacting Trump’s agenda.

    Morons are easily confused.

  474. Trump says:

    The butt hurt on la raza pimp is glorious.

    How’s that comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty, going?

    Or TPP?

    Or the moron’s pet, entitlement reform? Maybe the turtle can run for president.

  475. jason says:

    Also, Trump needs Gorsuch if he wants his agenda upheld. He is screwed with a Garland, a liberal SCOTUS will legislate from the bench.

  476. Robbie says:

    A few good things Trump can do are take a breather, don’t step all over his own message, let the Congressional leaders help him navigate DC, and bring in some veteran White House staff to help professionalize what seems to be a chaotic White House.

  477. jason says:

    How’s that comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty, going?”

    Zzzzz…. Trump is for amnesty too, or haven’t you noticed?

    “I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.”

    What do you want to bet he will skip the deportation part?

  478. Trump says:

    Yeah, the trump hater giving advice!!!

    If trump listened to f&$ked up as-holes like you, Jeb would be the whimpering loser against Hillary.

  479. Trump says:

    “Paul Ryan Has. plan for America, But No One Can Hear It…”

    Ha ha ha, Trump should listen to somebody!s agenda that nobody cares about.

    How’s that anti-poverty agenda of Ryan going? Is anyone awake?

  480. jason says:

    Falcons… who wouda thunk?

  481. Trump says:

    What is the Paul Ryan “better way” agenda?

    Does anyone know?

    And Trump should care about no name’s unknown agenda why?

  482. jason says:

    According to Soccer Moron, Trump doesn’t care about his own agenda, doesn’t care who is on the supreme court, doesn’t care about being re-elected, doesn’t care if the GOP loses Congress.


  483. Wes says:

    Didn’t you tell us Ryan wouldn’t be Speaker after Trump won?

  484. DW says:

    I don’t follow football at all, and have no interest in who wins, but because Atlanta is a red state, and Massachusetts is a blue state, I am glad to see the Falcons winning.

  485. Trump says:

    Speaker in name only.

    Guess who took up office in the House?

  486. Trump says:

    So how’s speaker Ryan’s agenda for “better way” progressing?

  487. jason says:

    Heh, T-Mobile ad was good too.

  488. Trump says:

    Maybe Ryan should run for president if he wants to implement his agenda.

    Or maybe that is too much hard work.

  489. jason says:

    Guess who took up office in the House?”

    Ahh, is THAT why you said nothing is getting done?

  490. jason says:

    Uh oh, Falcons made a big mistake.

  491. Trump says:

    Being president would take too much time away from giving empty meaningless speeches for the moron.

  492. Trump says:

    And on the senate side, the Turtle doesn’t even pretend to have an agenda.

    Except to get his wife a cabinet post.

  493. Mr.Vito says:

    I think Trump wants to be known as a successful president, crush the elitists that laughed at him, and actually help some of the ordinary people that didn’t…

    he’s seventy, not an ideologue, stacked, and his kids are all successful… he probably wants to play hero.

    on the other hand, he really could just be a psychopath and act like a dick…

  494. Mr.Vito says:

    That was an incredibly dangerous pass.

  495. Mr.Vito says:

    why risk losing field goal range… dumb

  496. jason says:

    That’s a catch.

  497. jason says:

    Yep, Falcons trying hard to throw the game away.

  498. Mr.Vito says:


  499. jason says:

    why risk losing field goal range… dumb”

    No, incredibly stupid.

  500. Mr.Vito says:

    Immaculate Reception II

  501. Mr.Vito says:

    Let’s see if Ryan can redeem himself, or really blow it.

  502. Mr.Vito says:

    I started watching at 28-3. Somehow I figured the Patriots would make a game of it.

  503. jason says:

    Cheatriots have to be the favorites now, the Falcons must be ready to jump off a tall building.

  504. DW says:

    Obviously the Falcons needed some sort of Herb Brooks speech before the start of the fourth quarter and didn’t get it.

  505. Mr.Vito says:

    They can fly though.

  506. jason says:

    I know the feeling when Falco completed a miracle pass with like 4 seconds to go to knock the Broncos out of going to the SB a few years ago.

  507. jason says:

    Falcons are idiots, deserved to lose.

  508. Mr.Vito says:

    The implosion is complete.

  509. jason says:

    Crappy interference call there in the end, but Cheatriots would have won anyway.

  510. Mr.Vito says:

    Congrats to Brady… I said I would not root against him this time.

  511. DW says:

    the “win probability” tracker at ESPN showed at one point the Falcons at a 99.5% chance of winning the game.

  512. DW says:

    Falcons players will take that one to their graves.

  513. DW says:

    Funny how sports implosions unfold. There are times when it is under way and everybody knows it will go all the way until the implosion is complete.

    Once Bob Stanley threw the wild pitch against Mookie Wilson allowing the tying run to score, everyone knew the Red Sox would complete the implosion and the Mets would win.

    Once the Patriots tied it to go into OT, the outcome was inevitable.

  514. Wes says:


    P atriots win!

  515. Mr.Vito says:

    Cleveland Indians, Hillary, Atlanta Falcons…

    Who implodes next?

  516. Wes says:

    For some reason, Dave’s filter doesn’t like the word P atriots.

  517. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Republican in Congress have been supportive of Trump; the have rammed his cabinet appointments through, and McConnell is threatening to use the nuclear option for Gorsuch. When Trump says something stupid, they are going to disagree with him — which he should appreciate.

  518. wvally says:

    99.5% probability–heh

  519. CashCow TM says:

    Two teams

    Fal-CONs (Conservatives)

    PATRIOTs (Patriots)

    Guess the left wingers had no team to root for.

  520. lisab says:

    good game 🙂

  521. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    February 5, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    Cheatriots are getting decimated.


    -Some people NEVER learn….the game is 60 minutes long, not 30.

    Similar to Election Day being in November, not August.

  522. NYCmike says:

    Did not root against Brady, but did not root for him.

    I thought the Falcons played NOT TO LOSE in the 2nd half.

  523. CashCow TM says:

    New England Patriots

    we done starting plan

  524. NYCmike says:

    You have to win that game after Ryan connects on that great catch by Julio Jones. Run the damn ball down their throat after that. Played scared.

  525. NYCmike says:

    Felt bad for that weird looking, old guy on the Falcons sideline. He has to be rich.

  526. NYCmike says:

    Someone please tell me that Robbie did NOT post an article from the NY Times explaining how Trump needs to govern from here on out.

    Someone, anyone, PLEASE tell me he is not that thick-headed.

  527. Robbie says:

    Someone tell me NYCMike did not support Angle, COD, Buck, Moudock, and McDaniel.

  528. NYCmike says:

    I hope Author did not see this comment, because it may put him over the edge:

    “UPDATE: Seen on Facebook: “Right now, Atlanta fans have got to be feeling like Hillary supporters on election night.””

  529. CashCow TM says:

    BREAKING ALT news:

    Atlanta streets blocked.

    Falcon fans refusing to accept the outcome of the game.

    # Not-My-Super-Bowl-Champion

  530. NYCmike says:

    Robbie – the well is dry, my fly-boy friend.

    I place the NY TIMES on the ground when the neighbors dog comes over.

    You read it like it is the Bible.


  531. NYCmike says:

    “Someone tell Robbie that 50% of a primary states voters did not support Angle, COD, Buck, Moudock, and McDaniel.”

    Well, in some cases they did, and in others, pretty dang close.

  532. NYCmike says:

    Someone tell me Robbie did not want JEB! in the Republican primary last year, and that he didn’t have $150 million, and that he only received 4 delegates with all that.

  533. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not think any fans could suffer like Eagles fans. Well, Falcons fans own the suffering title now.

  534. lisab says:

    but… but… the falcons had the popular vote…

  535. lisab says:

    13 intelligence agencies have confirmed the Russians hacked this game.

  536. wvally says:

    It’s Bitter’s birthday. I sent him a gift on behalf of the A-holes. You’re welcome.

  537. Mr.Vito says:

    Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 57m57 minutes ago

    What an amazing comeback and win by the Patriots. Tom Brady, Bob Kraft and Coach B are total winners. Wow!

  538. Walt says:

    Interesting factoid:

    Lady Gaga’s mother is from WV and was a cheerleader at WVU.

    Walt wants to know if you would you trade the John Brown Harpers Ferry bell for Lady Gaga’s mother?

  539. wvally says:

    Cash Cow that black ops mission you sent me on at the Dem Sen conclave in Shepherdstown went south fast. I was discovered and had to invent a whole cover story about being a newly militant suburban mom SJW. Got conscripted into a whole ream of resistance groups being organized on Facebook. I made a break for it 3 days ago and think they’re off my trail.

    I did manage to find out the intel you wanted. Their plan is to let Trump be Trump.

  540. Waingro says:

    Tom Brady: GOAT.

  541. CashCow TM says:


    Then you have to go to plan B.3.III.(c).

    You need to brush up on the manual.

    Use code book 375.

    I buried all the key info and “material objects” in a metal box under that bush in your back yard.

  542. CashCow TM says:

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  543. CashCow TM says:

    Happy Birthday, Mr. Bitter.

  544. PresidentPaul! says:

    Tom brady check his white privilege tweets

  545. Bitterlaw says:

    WV posted “Happy birthday, A-hole” on my FBI page. Total A-hole move. Classic.

  546. Wes says:

    Watching the Left melt down just as the Falcons did because the Patriots won the Superbowl just brings a smile to my face.

  547. Wes says:

    Happy belated birthday, Bitter.

  548. NYCmike says:

    A-Holes have yearly birthdays!?

    I thought they celebrated on a daily basis, if things are going smoothly.

  549. NYCmike says:

    Ca$h Cow,

    You need to get down to that MacArthur Park a.s.a.p. and get some documents. That is the only way Walt and Miss Daisy will be able to claim you on their taxes this year.

    There will be no more shenanigans from that other cow, Lois Lerner, and the rest of her lackeys.

  550. NYCmike says:

    -I missed the commercial, but it still made me laugh, so well done!

  551. NYCmike says:


    Happy Birthday! How old does that make you now? Is AARP going to your house already?

    Or did you do the patriotic thing and go with AMAC?

  552. NYCmike says:

    -h/t Instapundit

    What does Author have against LEGAL IMMIGRANTS? Why would he allow the tech companies to pay them less money?

  553. NYCmike says:

    -I have a feeling there is a lot of this going on, more than the media will tell us, for sure!**

    **Robbie, that was for you.

  554. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m 49 years old. Living a dream.

  555. NYCmike says:

    49, and loving it!?!

  556. NYCmike says:

    -Yes, I think all of this protesting will be bad for Democrats in the end, because it is all based on emotions.

    A JUDGE wearing one of the “hats that MD knitted”? That is not good for showing impartiality in a courtroom.

  557. Wes says:

    The legendary Black Sabbath played their final show ever in their hometown of Birmingham, England, over the weekend.

    It was the ending of an amazing era in music history. The greatest band of all time is no more.

    It makes me feel old to know I lived long enough to watch the streaming of my favorite band’s last show.

  558. Trump says:

    “The Washington Post Walks Back Report of Steve Bannon ‘Confrontation'” – Huffington Post

    Don’t tell that Jeb sycophant Robbie.

  559. wvally says:

    I think all of this protesting will be bad for Democrats in the end, because it is all based on emotions.


    Depends on who the critical audience is. I have been pretty stunned by what’s happened in my FB feed since the inauguration.

    I’m originally from suburban Maryland. Most of my longtime friends on FB still live there, or have moved to non-flyover cities (NY, Boston, San Fran, Portland, Miami, Austin). Among the women, they have nearly ALL been radicalized. 30(!) women I know went to the women’s marches. They are posting Trump diatribes non-stop. They are calling their congressmen and senators. They are flooding my email box with articles. They are signing up for future marches and activism groups. My bookclub has been turned into political post-card writing parties. These are people who used to post pictures of their kids’ sporting events and health tips and what they ate for dinner.

    It’s not as pronounced among the men, but a number of men I know who are executives, or in technology, who never touched politics w a 10-ft pole are now posting about Hitler/Orwell etc.

    Among my friends in my WV exurb, the split is more like 50/50 between the new social justice warriors and the people desperately trying to ignore political posts, or making the occasional understated joke about the hysteria. At my daughter’s school, the librarian now wears a pussy hat.

    Only my southern relatives are out there actively deriding the media & the protests.

    I’m thinking 2018 is going to be more like a presidential year. Trump and congress better deliver on jobs for people who aren’t techies, lower health premiums and build the friggin wall.

  560. NYCmike says:

    -This does NOT seem like it will end up being good for the citizens of Turkey, or the rest of us.

  561. NYCmike says:

    “I’m thinking 2018 is going to be more like a presidential year.”

    -Agreed, but the states where the elections are (for the Senate) is very important as well.

  562. wvally says:

    Indeed NYC. What I’m wondering: is the middle class hysteria I’m seeing from my friends happening in red states? I am seeing it here in WV, but I’m only 1.5 hrs from DC.

  563. NYCmike says:

    President’s Day weekend, I go away with my wife’s friends (and the kids).

    I’ll get a better gauge on how much fight there is within that small circle regarding politics. YES, it will be blue-state ladies, but they have been a pretty good predictor, depending on how engaged they have been (most loved Obama). They were one reason I never totally gave up on Trump last year, simply because the majority of them could not stand Hillary.

  564. NYCmike says:

    Did anyone opine on Gaga?

    I thought she was “eh”.

    Give me Tom Petty, Rolling Stones, or Bruno Mars over her any day.

  565. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought Lady Gaga put on a great show. She did not rant about Trump. She just sang and danced.

  566. NYCmike says:

    Thought the singing was not-the-greatest, and the dancing with that first outfit on was horrendous.

    Glad she did not rant about Trump.

  567. Jake says:

    588. Agreed.

    Arthur Blank looked like a cross between Vincent Price and a Pimp.

  568. Jake says:

    581. Yes, Robbie loves to quote Fake News hub Washington Post.

    Wonder if he has a creepy Jeff Bezos poster in his office.

  569. NYCmike says:

    YES, Vincent Price, exactly!

  570. NYCmike says:

    -They can’t do several things at once? They have had 8 years to prepare. WTF!?!

  571. Robbie says:

    I love the fact the Trump supporters here find my views more of an issue than the president who praises Putin, essentially says America is morally equivalent to Russia, or acts like an Internet troll on Twitter. By the way, that all happened just this weekend.

    Here’s something that is going to really rile up the Trump Hale-Bopp followers. Trump is crumbling under the pressure of the presidency. His mental stability has always been an issue and his actions in his first two weeks are confirming that.

  572. Robbie says:

    Meehan passed on a challenge of Casey in PA. I never thought that race was winnable, but he may be the canary in the coal mind on 2018. Ryan Zinke already passed on a run in MT to become the unimportant Interior Secretary. If more top flight challengers pass on Senate runs, it’s probably a sign Trump is becoming a dead weight.

  573. Trump says:

    A brain fried Jeb coc&sufker thinks Trump has issues.

    How’s that $150m for 3 delegates working for you, as-wipe?

    Nobody pushes fake news like this fu$&tard.

  574. Trump says:

    Who the f are these top flight challengers? Names please.

  575. Jake says:

    Robbie what about your mental stability? You have spent over a year bashing Trump, after you praised 3 vote Jeb.

    Is it because, you predicted a Hillary blowout win, like your friends at the Media?

  576. Trump says:

    At the pace they are going, the GOP congress. Will be running on 2018 having not accomplished anything.

    Does not bode well for defeating Tester, Heitkamp and Manchin, who should be low hanging fruit.

  577. Jake says:

    597. Zinke was never the top tier guy in Mt, Robbie. It is state AG Tim Fox.

    Get your facts straight. Fox runs as a outsider

  578. NYCmike says:


    I don’t get you. I don’t have more of an issue with you than with Trump’s equivocation speaking about Putin.

    BUT, I am able to respond to your idiocy of posting stories from the WAPO or the NY Times without confirming they are correct, so I do.

    My only response I am able to give Trump will be in 3 years when he runs again, and we shall see if a primary challenge is in order.

  579. Jake says:

    If I want analysis on the 2018 races, I will adhere to Wes, not RINO Robbie and the Bushies.

  580. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is crumbling under the pressure of the presidency. His mental stability has always been an issue and his actions in his first two weeks are confirming that.”

    -Most people when cracking up start acting differently.

    How is Trump acting differently? He has always been an arse! Now, he is just being an arse to the right set of people, Democrats.

  581. Jake says:

    601. Not true. As much as McConnell pisses me off, he has done a great job on SCOTUS. Keeping Garland at Bay, and getting Gorusch in will be his main job.

    Under the radar, is the 100+ Fed Court openings, that should be filled with the Reid rule

  582. Waingro says:

    #597, I think it might be a LITTLE early to jump to that conclusion, Robbie.

  583. Robbie says:

    Spending the next two or four years claiming any story not flattering to Trump is fake news will only end in tears. The same thing happened in the run up to the 2006 and 2008 elections. Very few who commented here were willing to believe Republicans were in trouble.

    In 2006, the usual retort was either “don’t worry, Rove knows what he’s doing” or “GOTV will save us”. In 2008, the usual retort was “but the Bradley effect” or “the polls are all wrong” (remember the delbov curve?). I even remember Howard Dean talking about some dumb Farrakan tape.

    I’m making no predictions about 2018, but the desire here to suspend disbelief is really something. Trump has just suffered the worst first two weeks of a presidency we’ve ever seen. On top of that, he steps on whatever good news he has by tweeting stupid crap or speaking well of Putin.

    I want to see Trump succeed because of SCOTUS, taxes, and repeal of Obamacare, but his self destructive tendencies are putting much of that in danger. I am not going to discount negative stories simply because they’re negative. That said, I have been more than willing to compliment Trump when he’s done things well like Gorsuch.

  584. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    February 6, 2017 at 11:33 am
    #597, I think it might be a LITTLE early to jump to that conclusion, Robbie.

    – Yes, I agree. It will be important to watch what happens with people like Sean Duffy, Ann Wagner, and some of the other top flight Senate recruits considering challenges.

  585. Robbie says:

    Jake says:
    February 6, 2017 at 11:19 am
    Robbie what about your mental stability? You have spent over a year bashing Trump, after you praised 3 vote Jeb.
    Is it because, you predicted a Hillary blowout win, like your friends at the Media?

    – I am not going to suspend my disbelief simply because Trump pulled off a shocking surprise win. The campaign is over and Clinton is no longer his foil. And let’s be clear, Trump won because America decided it didn’t want Clinton to be president.

    If Trump calms down and stops acting like he has perpetual butthurt, the problems he faces today will go away quickly. But whining on Twitter about “so-called judges” or what Don lemon is saying is no way to conduct a presidency or ease the concerns of people who want to support him, but can’t quite get there.

  586. janz says:

    #582 wvally, that was a dramatic post, regarding how much the political behavior has changed in your personal circle of friends/family. Maybe 180 degrees of change does that to people. Trump is literally trampling the status quo. It remains to be seen, however, how it will all turn out in the end.

    Hopefully, though, Devos will win approval, and be both proactive and competent in turning schools around, especially in the decaying inner cities.

  587. PresidentPaul! says:

    NYCmike- Gaga did one of the best SB shows I’ve seen overall.

  588. Mr.Vito says:

    Romney says Trump is off to an obviously strong start. Robbie says it is the worst two weeks anyone has ever seen.

    Every piece of ‘evidence’ you have provided us with so far from ‘journalists’ has been walked back in some form or another. Everything else is your opinion based on Trump acting like he did prior to the election.

    Perhaps Trump needs to calm down… but it seems you need to calm down for a while. Take break for a month… that’s my suggestion.

  589. Trump says:

    Nobody should be paying any attention to this fu$&ed up as-wipe Robbie.

    Everything he has said has been spectacularly wrong. His bile and hate are the only things that are solid.

  590. Trump says:

    How would this f-tard know how to conduct a presidency?

  591. Trump says:

    Here’s a message to you, the Jeb as-tard:

    Trump is not your president. Go fuc$ yourself.

    Trump did not need your support, he does not want your support, he will not want your support.

  592. Trump says:

    Your support or lack thereof is no concern to Trump, you insignificant turd.

  593. Trump says:

    Get some mental checkup.

  594. Trump says:

    If you have concern about Scotus, go talk to the chinless turtle.

    Trump has delivered, let’s see if the turtle can.

    If you have concerns about taxes and Obamacare, maybe you need to focus on the flaky Paul Ryan. The moron talks a game, but has yet to do anything. About anything.

  595. Trump says:

    Ryan and his cohorts have had years to figure out how to replace Obamacare.

    What are they waiting for?

    I know what they are struggling with. Like the good progressives they are, they want to keep the Obamacare taxes.

  596. Trump says:

    If Ryan can stop jerking off about his “Better Way”, which no one cares about, maybe he will find time to do something useful.

  597. Trump says:

    Maybe that’s why Pence has taken up office near Ryan’s in the House (despite being an officer of the senate and not the house). To kick him at regular intervals to get off his as-and get something done.

  598. Mr.Vito says:

    This is headlining on Drudge.

    These two parts caught my attention… O

    “Over 2,000 more entered “irregularly” during a similar time period, without official authorization, such as across unmonitored fields.”

    Why is it so hard to say ‘illegally’?

    “Anisa Hussein, 20, and Lyaan Mohammed, 19, hired a smuggler to take them from Somalia to Minneapolis in August, where they planned to settle in a large Somali community. But Trump’s anti-refugee rhetoric frightened them into traveling to Manitoba days later. (Trump) said he would turn away the refugees and we would go back to Somalia,” said Mohammed, peeking timidly from behind the hood of a thick parka she received in Canada for winter. “We were so scared. We just wanted to be [in] a safe place.”

    People are being smuggled in through our ports… this is enough to say the temporary ban is necessary.

  599. NYCmike says:

    “Trump has just suffered the worst first two weeks of a presidency we’ve ever seen.”


    I think the airplane gig is better paying than TRYING to get a call from the WAPO or NY Times.

  600. NYCmike says:

    “NYCmike- Gaga did one of the best SB shows I’ve seen overall.”

    -Obviously, like in Wes calling Black Sabbath “the greatest band”, this is a purely subjective exercise.

  601. Barrett says:

    #623 – Vito, this brings up another good point. A travel ban on certain countries would put a damper on human trafficking.

    The trick is to enact a travel ban in such a manner that you cause people of interest to behave differently – then catch them in the act when they change their plans.

  602. Waingro says:

    #609, Duffy might as well go for it this cycle. Johnson just got 6 more years and Baldwin is as far left as it gets, especially in the increasingly redder Wisconsin.

  603. Tina says:

    I see that in this post the blog is reverting back to the pre election analysis.

  604. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Where was the liberal press outrage over Obama cutting of Cuban immigration, many of which were stopped at the board by his change in policy?

  605. lisab says:

    “Ryan and his cohorts have had years to figure out how to replace Obamacare.

    What are they waiting for?

    they don’t really want to repeal it

  606. lisab says:

    “Trump has just suffered the worst first two weeks of a presidency we’ve ever seen.”

    if that were true the dems would not be so upset and Robbie would not be trolling here

  607. lisab says:

    anyone catch the game yesterday?

    it was pretty good 🙂

    that last 53 seconds of the 4th quarter was a little dull, but up to that point it was a cliffhanger

  608. Big Joe says:

    Jason Carter to Richard Spencer: “F*CK YOU”.
    Looks like Jason Carter is back in the hunt for the GA Governorship in 2018.

    Big Joe

  609. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab is not a football fan. She is a fan of Boston in general.

  610. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm
    Where was the liberal press outrage over Obama cutting of Cuban immigration, many of which were stopped at the board by his change in policy?

    – I think you already know the answer to that question.

  611. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    637. Yes I do, and the key word is “hypocrisy.”

    Its also stupid politics; Obama’s petty political act likely will result in Cubans continuing to vote Republican, which will help Republicans to continue to do well in Florida. It makes Democratic Senator Nelson vulnerable in 2018.

  612. CashCow TM says:

    “Cash Cow” was the answer to a question on Jeopardy just a minute ago!

    I am FAMOUS1

  613. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Trump has just suffered the worst first two weeks of a presidency we’ve ever seen.”

    If you measurement is he is controversial and having bad press, Trump has had a bad two years; his candidacy was expected to collapse during the primaries, and he was expected to be badly defeated as a candidate.

    Didn’t happen, he became president, and now is pushing his cabinet picks through Congress with the help of the Republican Senate. The Democrats in Congress look ineffective opposing him.

    Trump thrives on controversy. Am not seeing some special outrage sudden getting his supporters to abandon him.

  614. Robbie says:


    Trump may thrive on controversy, but the election is over. Trump no longer has Hillary Clinton as a foil. More importantly, what works in a campaign doesn’t always work in governing. Obama tried to govern as he campaigned, by dividing us by race and ethnicity, but it didn’t go so well. Yes, he won re-election, but the rest of the party got wiped out.

    I am dubious Trump can continue on this pace. Whether people want to like him or not, I firmly believe he’s going to wear out the voting public.

    We’ll just have to see it that’s right or wrong.

  615. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m curious if and at what point these organized boycotts could run afoul of the law…

  616. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump no longer has Hillary Clinton as a foil.”

    Hillary was not the foil. The elite institutions and globalists were the foil… Hillary represented all they stood for, and they are still fighting him tooth and nail.

  617. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    641. “I firmly believe he’s going to wear out the voting public.”

    You may be right. Hopefully, he will learn from experience, and it might help when his cabinet is in place.

  618. lisab says:

    “lisab is not a football fan. She is a fan of Boston in general.lisab is not a football fan. She is a fan of Boston in general.”

    on that note,

    anyone want to buy a tom brady shirt i found? only $500,000

  619. Trump says:

    Free Tom Brady!

  620. Trump says:

    Why does anyone listen to the Jeb coc-sucker? A brain dead moron with no connection to reality.

    Trump has just started. Wait till he tears the GOP a new as-hole at the State of the Union.

  621. Trump says:

    This fuc$Ed up as$ has not gotten one thing right in 10 years, yet keeps pontificating like a demented retard.

  622. Trump says:

    The moron thinks Trump is a servile low energy alien like Jeb.

    Jeb is this libtard’s frame of reference,

  623. Trump says:

    I went back and watched some of the primary debates on YouTube.

    The pathetic presence of Jeb was astonishing. No man could be such a pus-y.

  624. Bitterlaw says:

    Poster Trump proves the argument that people use insults when they have no argument.

  625. Trump says:

    Bitterlaw prove the presence of stupid inanity.

  626. Trump says:

    Bl thinks he has any argument.

  627. Trump says:

    How cute! Give him a star.

  628. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump proves my point.

  629. Trump says:

    Since when did bl have a point?

  630. Trump says:

    Inanely typing the same thing for 10 years does not a point make.

  631. Trump says:

    Real point or fake point?

  632. Mr.Vito says:

    Poster Trump

    Rump spotter
    Pump retorts
    Mutter props
    Pro strumpet
    Purest tromp
    Stump report
    Term support
    Pomp truster

  633. Mr.Vito says:

    Mister Bitterlaw

    Wittiest Rambler

  634. NYCmike says:

    ” Obama tried to govern as he campaigned, by dividing us by race and ethnicity, but it didn’t go so well.”

    -Obama campaigned by dividing, and governed the same way? That would be news to the millions of people who voted for him and had no idea how he governed. That would be news to the millions of whites who voted for him because they thought he would Change Washington DC.

  635. Mr.Vito says:

    In 2008 at least he did not campaign as a divider.

  636. Trump says:

    Trump campaigned as a divider, he should govern as a divider. Who wants to unite with a lowlife sniveling whine like Robbie?

  637. Michael says:

    Hey guys. Jason, sorry about your dog. How are things?

  638. Tina says:

    And they should give the money back asap.

  639. Bitterlaw says:

    Do you graduate this year, Michael?

  640. Michael says:

    I’m not sure, I’m getting a little worried about Steve Bannon. What do you guys thing about him?

  641. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito

    Vim rot

    Tom Irv

  642. Bitterlaw says:

    I know nothing about Bannon except that he seems like an easy target forcing Trump off message.

  643. Tina says:

    Bannon handled the second debate. The turning point tomthe election. This is when bj and her thighness were rattled by bjs accusers.

  644. Michael says:

    Bannon is making the messages, that is scary to me. Its like Trump is following Bannon.

  645. NYCmike says:

    “….I’m getting a little worried about Steve Bannon.”

    -Has Michael ditched MD and become a mentee of Robbie?

  646. Tina says:

    Bannon also understands politics. If you fail to respond and be the punching bag, you become bush.

  647. NYCmike says:

    Michael needs to watch some MILO videos.

  648. Tina says:

    Yup, bannon is leading trump, like flub was lead by cheney.

    Classic leftist bs.

  649. Michael says:

    Well I”m having a Facebook fight right now with some liberals. They are saying that Bannon is really running everything and that he wants to “burn it all down”. They say that means he wants a race / religious war . How do I respond?

  650. NYCmike says:

    “Bannon is making the messages, that is scary to me.”


    Is this kid one of our future leaders?


  651. NYCmike says:

    “How do I respond?”

    -Link to Author’s Twitter account, and tell them if they keep acting like such p*ssies, they will start posting videos where they are preparing steaks for dinner while furiously sipping cocktails.

  652. wvally says:

    The elites are white atheists

  653. NYCmike says:

    “How do I respond?”

    -Put on your salmon blazer and tell them to start swimming upstream, that the bears (Russians) are coming to get them!

  654. NYCmike says:

    “How do I respond?”

    -By buying a cat and staying inside your house for the foreseeable future.

  655. NYCmike says:

    The cat is there to tell you what to do to continue existing.

  656. NYCmike says:

    “How do I respond?”

    -By becoming the BEST sociology professor the university sytem has ever seen!

  657. NYCmike says:


  658. Big Joe says:

    Man the Knicks are absolutely pathetic.

  659. NYCmike says:

    “Well I”m having a Facebook fight right now with some liberals.”

    -Tell them “Cool story, bro.”

  660. Mr.Vito says:

    Look at the rs that took. Oney from soros.

    Goober, mcamnesty, flub., etc.


    Wondering if you linked from drudge… the article points out the the money is not from Soros or his fund because that would be ‘fake news’

    I pointed the out to Drudge and was waiting to see if he corrects his headline…

  661. NYCmike says:

    Yes about the Knicks.

    Even Michael fights on Facebook harder than they play their games.

  662. NYCmike says:

    Good catch, Mr. Vito.

    Tina, the headline almost got me as well.

  663. Mr.Vito says:

    The money is from some individuals who happen to work for Soros Fund Management.

  664. Tina says:


    Time for the college safe space.

  665. NYCmike says:

    “They are saying that Bannon is really running everything and that he wants to “burn it all down”.”

    -My first statement back to the “liberals” would be “So? Think of the reconstruction projects that we would need to build up D.C. again!”.

  666. Mr.Vito says:

    So that leaves it to others to connect dots if they so desire… or not.

  667. NYCmike says:

    Good night!

    Michael, sleep tight, don’t let the (scary) bed bugs bite!

  668. Mr.Vito says:

    It also appears to be rather small donations of about 2500 or less, whI have hardly is a bankroll operation.

  669. NYCmike says:

    MD cut and run.
    Michael is “scared” of Bannon.

    We really did a disservice to this impressionable kid all those years ago.

  670. Mr.Vito says:

    WhI have = which

  671. NYCmike says:

    Ok, good night for real. I was looking to instigate something.

    Michael, good for you in ignoring my buggerings!

  672. Tina says:

    Well I”m having a Facebook fight right now with some liberals. They are saying that Bannon is really running everything and that he wants to “burn it all down”. They say that means he wants a race / religious war . How do I respond?

    Find the safe soace at the college campus.

  673. Tina says:

    And i am having my second limoncello.

    That and a ribeye since tom brady won again. He shoukd have lost and the falcons choked, like romenynand mccain.

  674. Mr.Vito says:

    Bannon seems to have won Trump the presidency by understandingredients his voters… it only made sense to me that Trump would keep him as an adviser in order to keep that connection. Since he has been painted in a sinister shadowy light for some time now, it is difficult for me to decide about Bannon… especially after that article that was just walked back.

    The media likes a sinister behind the scenes player… looks like Bannon is gonna be the guy. What is or isn’t true about him is now hazy for me because of the crappie job the media has done over the past year plus.

  675. Mr.Vito says:

    “Well I”m having a Facebook fight right now with some liberals. They are saying that Bannon is really running everything and that he wants to “burn it all down”. They say that means he wants a race / religious war . How do I respond?”

    Tell them that if they truly believe that, then they should stop being useful idiots playing right into his hands.

  676. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina- Making up stories about terrorist attacks that the media hides is not punching back. Referring to a Federal judge as a so-called judge is not punching back. It is being counter-productive to his task

  677. Mr.Vito says:

    Who made up a Terrorist attack?

  678. Tina says:

    Bl, you may confusing bannon with kelky anne conway, she says she simply misspoke. I beleive her, and i was a crtic of her.

    However, i have not followed the two weeks of trump, whether they are great like romney says, or bad, like jebot 2 says.

  679. Tina says:

    They refer to president trump,as a so called president. Bush referred to a leftist activist judge countless times. It is politics and if the little judge cannot handle it, tough.

    He interjected himself into an issue he has little,comtrol of.

  680. Trump says:

    The GOP, paid operators for George Soros.

  681. CashCow TM says:

    George Soros

    Gore’s gooser
    gross ego ore

  682. lisab says:

    here is what showed that jeb was not a president. he literally stood on his tip toes to appear taller than the others.

    he is naturally 6′ 3″

    what a tool

  683. lisab says:

    “Well I”m having a Facebook fight right now with some liberals. They are saying that Bannon is really running everything and that he wants to “burn it all down”. They say that means he wants a race / religious war . How do I respond?”

    go with the alinsky slapdown — make them live up to the liberal traditions that they espouse

    john locke is one of the founders of the rights of man — along with mary wollstonecraft and thomas paine — and of course the declaration of independence by thomas jefferson

    not to mention the us constitution which specifically does not allow for a gigantic central government — the founding fathers were quite specific in what the feds were allowed to do

    not to go full ron paul — never go full ron paul — but seriously do they really want to support a dystopian obamacare world where women have to buy prostate cancer insurance?!!!!!

    burn the feds down

    (which is easy to say as a state employee, but still …)

  684. lisab says:

    plus the patriots won

    in all of recorded history, going back to ancient egypt, babylon, sumeria, assyria, persia, china, india and japan — not to mention all of roman history and sparta …

    no quarterback has ever won 5 superbowl rings evah!!!!!

    so bite me losahs!

  685. lisab says:

    and we are keeping bell

  686. lisab says:

    the bell 🙂

  687. DW says:

    CONFUSION: Maxine Waters claims Putin ‘continuing to advance into Korea’…

    …link at Drudge

    Add to the list of other dim bulbs who wanted the rover on Mars to find the flag left by our astronauts, and the Dem from GA who worried that Guam would flip over.

  688. Mr.Vito says:

    Drudge quietly took down the Soros cash article…

  689. Bitterlaw says:

    That is an outrage. Any article about Soros must be posted even if it can’t be substantiated or confirmed. It is also necessary to praise all Executive Orders. It is the new normal.

  690. NYCmike says:


    Stop being a schmuck.

    “praise all Executive Orders.” – who may I ask is doing that, except for those like “Trump”?

    I am asking for those opposed to Trump’s EO’s to be judged with the same standard as Republicans/conservatives judged Obama’s – are they illegal, YES or NO?

    Which law are they changing? Does the President/Executive Branch have the right to do this?
    Until the 9th circuit or the Supremes make their ruling, I will consider them lawful EO’s, since I have not seen one article explaining WHY they are not lawful. If you have any information that is useful regarding them, go ahead and post it.

  691. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I am fine with EO’s that reverse Obama’s EOs. I just remember the howls of outrage over Obama’s use of them even if they were arguably legal.

  692. NYCmike says:


    Agreed, I am not much for governance by EO, understood.

    BUT, and I should point out I did not see anything wrong with Obama’s temporary ban of immigration from certain countries that he put into effect, as long as it is within the power of the Executive Branch/President, I did not have a problem with it.

    In a perfect world, our laws would be followed, especially regarding something that is expressly defined to be under the jurisdiction of the Feds, namely immigration.

  693. NYCmike says:

    -**warning**I wonder if this will be played every morning in the MD household, to get them ready for the day ahead!**warning**

    **per DW’s rule, I have posted a **warning** that the video may contain images harmful to the eyes.

  694. NYCmike says:

    -I hope Trump keeps Schumer within his Twitter-verse, and mentions him often. Keep the pressure on Chuckie, now that he is Majority Leader. Make him have to answer either his radical constituents in NY, or answer to the red-state Senators up in 2018.

  695. NYCmike says:

    -Is Kaine up for re-election in 2018?

    Put these words next to images of trees burning and crowds holding up traffic.

  696. NYCmike says:

    One more reason why voting Trump-Pence was the logical choice.

  697. NYCmike says:

    -This should get Bitterlaw fired up, since they are going after his girl, Taylor Swift!

  698. NYCmike says:

    via Instapundit:

    Maybe Robbie, Corey, Author, etc need to check other sources before opining on news they hear.

    This is an Australian blog. Yes, it is a “libertarian, centre-right” blog, so I am aware that it is probably biased in certain ways.

    If you can find different takes on this story, I would love to read about it.

  699. Mr.Vito says:

    I remember the Greg Norman thing… Turnbull had no clue how to get in touch with Trump and had already begun planning with Hillary.

  700. janz says:

    IMO, EO’s should be issued cautiously, with justification, and not simply to facilitate the passage of one-sided, divisive legislation. This, however, increasingly became the WH’s method of doing business during the last 8 years. Trump appears to be emulating such a tactic. However, such measures have the substance of cliff notes, and don’t provide long-standing policy, but rather short term one-party satisfaction. Therefore, I hope Trump’s administration will ease up on issuing these quick, short-cuts to getting what they want.

  701. janz says:

    In addition I find the Dems malicious behavior is grating on me. Their tantrums are deleterious for either the healing or well being of the country. They are beginning to resemble blathering idiots who comprise the minority party. Whether it’s Schumer, Pelosi or the dumb remarks of Maxine Waters, there is nothing remarkable about their dialogues, except for the awful vitriol that is constantly casting stones at an incoming government.

  702. NYCmike says:

    “In addition I find the Dems malicious behavior is grating on me.”

    -I have found it quite amusing, because it is so without logic. It is solely based on their emotions, and I love I nice childish tantrum.

  703. NYCmike says:

    -I have to say, like Scalia, I LOVE this woman’s spirit! Must be a NY thing!

    Unfortunately, I don’t think she will retire while living, and I don’t want her to die, so talk about replacing her is ill-conceived.

  704. Walt says:

    I predict that if DeVos is rejected as Dept
    Of Ed nominee the left will go nuts on social media
    harping about defeating Trump and “this is what democracy
    looks like.”

    If she is approved by the Senate then the left will be all over
    Facebook threatening revolution.

    Either way, I predict the left will be insufferable on social media.

  705. Walt says:

    I am working.

    Lunch break.

    Did thry fi d Brady’s jersey yet?

  706. NYCmike says:

    lisab is hiding it under the bell.

  707. Wes says:

    In 724, NYCMike finally unintentionally admits to wanting Schumer to be Senate Majority Leader.

  708. NYCmike says:


    Good catch, Wes!

    Of course, I mean Senate Minority Leader, but we already knew that.

    Cheers! 🙂

  709. DW says:

    DeVos confirmed.

  710. jason says:

    Whether people want to like him or not, I firmly believe he’s going to wear out the voting public.”

    Is this the same Wobbie who predicted Jeb Bush would grow on the voting public?

  711. jason says:

    DeVos was my favorite cabinet pick after Mad Dog.

    I guess lisab, leading proponent of bad schools and the dumbing down of good schools, is hardest hit.

  712. Barrett says:

    I didn’t get a chance to listen to the confirmation hearings, but according the breitbart, DeVos was allegedly going to “steer clear” of talking about common core in her confirmation hearings.

    Can anyone confirm this for me? If she is a common core supporter, then I do not support her. And of course if she is against it, then I have no problem with her confirmation.

  713. Tom says:

    Betsy DeVos confirmed. Democrat obstructionist tactics, all sound and fury signifying nothing.

  714. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    743. Trump and the Republicans have been relentless in getting Trump cabinet and nominees approved. The Democrats look like road kill.

    Believe the leftists are going to start going after the Democratic leadership and moderates. Expect some leftist “tea party” challenges to senate Democratic incumbents in 2018.

  715. CG says:

    Somewhat embarrassing that it took a 50-50 vote but congrats to Betsy DeVos and to her long-time ally Jeb Bush.

  716. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Mitch McConnell’s strong point is he is an excellent parliamentarian. His skills are showing.

  717. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Now Sessions can be approved as Attorney General.

  718. jason says:

    Hey guys. Jason, sorry about your dog. How are things?”

    Ok… I am mad at my other dog because he doesn’t seem to miss the dog that died.

  719. NYCmike says:

    -Pelosi can’t work with Trump, or either of the Bush Presidents, it seems, AND “CG” is still acting like President Trump took his ball and would not let him play (“Somewhat embarrassing that it took a 50-50 vote….”).

  720. NYCmike says:

    Oh gosh, I did not see the end of “CG”‘s statement about Devos about JEB!.

    Good for laughs on a per comment basis!

    Thank you, “CG”!

  721. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    734. “Either way, I predict the left will be insufferable on social media.”

    The problem is when the leftists begin a social media campaign, Trump nukes them on twitter, and they react by becoming flustered and running around like chickens with their heads cut-off.

  722. jason says:

    DeVos on common core:

    Many of you are asking about Common Core. To clarify, I am not a supporter – period,” DeVos tweeted.

  723. CG says:

    Her position on Common Core was, and always has been, the same as Jeb Bush, whom she endorsed for President early on in his campaign.

    Supported the right of states to set standards, opposed federal standards.

  724. NYCmike says:

    Maybe JEB! should have pronounced that LOUDLY, and CLEARLY when he entered the race, instead of trying to be Mr. Milquetoast.

  725. CG says:

    He did. People like you were too busy reading fake news in Breitbart to care though.

  726. NYCmike says:

    Mike Pence makes history….”CG” calls it embarrassing!

  727. CG says:

    Now, you sound like Kellyanne.

    Did the Patriots fall behind by 25 points on purpose too in order to “make history?”

    That’s not exactly the kind of “history” one would want to make. Typically, Cabinet secretaries are approved overwhelmingly, and she lost two Republicans in the process. Her performance at the hearings were panned, including by conservatives, but mainstream Republicans were happy she was selected and believe she will do a good job.

  728. NYCmike says:

    “He did. People like you were too busy reading fake news in Breitbart to care though.”


    Now “CG” claims that I was too busy reading **yada yada yada**…..and the evidence will be…..NADA!

    Keep digging!

  729. CG says:

    You cannot exactly claim to be an informed font of information as it relates to public events or government functions.

  730. CG says:

    Your statements regarding the Iran nuclear deal and attacking Marco Rubio for his Senate activities showed that many times.

  731. jason says:

    DeVos and Jeb may be “allies” but they have very different approaches to education. Jeb is a big proponent of the top down big government approach exemplified by common core, while DeVos, while not against having standards (I am not against standards either), favors a much bigger role for vouchers and charter schools and local control.

  732. NYCmike says:


    My hope is that she takes a Department that was not around at the beginning at the Carter Administration, and reduces its influence drastically. I do not believe it will make a difference in any child’s life, unless Devos is able to get more and more states to attempt the use of educational vouchers attached to the individual child. To that end, not much of an infrastructure is needed, as each states education department should provide any personnel and other st uff that is needed.

  733. jason says:

    Here is her answer to Maggie Hassan who was trying to tie her to Jeb Bush and common core.

    Questions by Sen. Margaret Wood Hassan (D-N.H.) about Common Core:

    Q. You recently said you want to end the Common Core, yet you founded the Great Lakes Education Project, which has supported the Common Core and was a major driver of its implementation in Michigan. Additionally, you served on the board of Jeb Bush’s Foundation for Excellence in Education, which supported the Common Core. Do you generally not agree with the foundations that you support on major policies, or is this an anomaly?

    A. I believe in high standards of excellence and achievement. I also believe it is the job of states to set those standards. The federal government can highlight their success, but I don’t support a federalized approach to Common Core. I have supported many good causes over the years across the political spectrum. I have contributed to organizations because of particular initiatives they have undertaken, but that in no way means I support all of their activities. In fact, I appreciate the opportunity to highlight my diversity, from GLEP, to Excel in Ed to the Clinton Global Initiative, there are organizations that I have helped support with whom I do not fully agree. It is important to listen to a variety of perspectives. I applaud what this Congress and Committee did in its passage of the Every Student Succeeds Act. You all made it quite clear that there should be no federal role in determining standards.”

  734. CG says:

    Completely untrue. Their views are the same, and have worked closely on these issues together for years, which is why she supported him for President, and he was so publicly vocal in backing her for Education Secretary.

    They supported vouchers, charter schools, and local control together in the same organization.

  735. CG says:

    State support for standards, not federal mandates. Same position for both.

  736. NYCmike says:

    I have never claimed, nor have I wanted to be, a font.

  737. CG says:

    “Bush was the early leader of the corporate school reform movement — treating public schools as if they were for-profit businesses — turning Florida into a testing ground when he became governor of the state in 1999. He created a “Florida Formula” of school reforms that became a model for other states, including state “report cards” that assign letter grades to schools based largely on test scores and widespread school choice right after he became governor in 1999.

    After he left office in 2007, he created the Foundation for Excellence in Education to carry on that work, holding annual summits and helping other states follow the formula. Also after he left office, the standardized testing system that he created in Florida led to a revolt by superintendents who said they had lost confidence in it. The state renamed and marginally changed the Common Core State Standards, which it had adopted with Bush’s encouragement, and the charter school sector that he embraced became marred by scandal.

    DeVos has for years been extremely close to Bush, sitting on the board of his foundation and sharing a philosophy that the public education system in America is a monopoly in the clutches of teachers unions and must be liberated by competitive market forces. Bush refers to public school districts not as public school districts but as over 13,000 government-run monopolies run by unions.” DeVos, in the same paragraph in a 2015 speech, called the education system “a closed market,” “a monopoly” — and “a dead end.”

    Their lack of regard for the traditional public education system is matched by their zeal for other educational options: charter schools, including those run by for-profit companies, and vouchers and voucherlike programs that use public dollars to pay for private and religious school tuition. DeVos and her family have donated substantial amounts of money to institutions and causes linked to the Christian right, including Christian schools.

    Bush and DeVos say they believe public education has failed America and that families should have choices to escape traditional public schools they don’t like. Their critics say that philosophy is really part of a longtime attempt by conservatives to undermine public institutions and privatize public education. A number of school choice advocates came out against DeVos, saying that she doesn’t have enough knowledge about, or interest in improving, the traditional system, which educates the vast majority of America’s schoolchildren.”

  738. NYCmike says:

    Is “CG” really here to pimp more JEB!?

    How sad!

  739. NYCmike says:

    Ok, I’ll give JEB! some credit, just so Mr. Sanctimony can get back to work:

    JEB! needed Trump to win the Presidency so that Betsy Devos could become Secretary of Education.

  740. jason says:

    Killer answer btw.

  741. NYCmike says:

    “Did the Patriots fall behind by 25 points on purpose too in order to “make history?””

    -On the radio yesterday morning (2:00 AM), it was said……. 🙂

  742. CG says:

    I do need to get back to work. My father and brother(s) aren’t here to do it for me.

  743. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    People need to have to understand that having Pelosi from San Francisco on the west coast generating hot air; and Schumer from NYC on the east coast generating hot air, prevents the U.S. from sinking into the ocean because of rising seas from climate change. The science is settled.

  744. jason says:

    G says:
    February 7, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    State support for standards, not federal mandates. Same position for both.”


    I just posted THREE different quotes from DeVos herself where she states SHE DOES NOT SUPPORT COMMON CORE.

  745. wvally says:

    Article on Tom Brady in Wapo. Very fawning…Claims Gooddell was the fool in Deflategate. I have no idea about that because I didn’t really follow the story after the initial headlines.

    But the main point of the article is that he’s been successful and stayed healthy long term by ditching NFL doctors, exercise routines & recommended diet.

  746. CG says:

    She does not support a federal Common Core, which is and always has been the same position of Jeb Bush.

    You were the one trying to say that Jeb Bush did not support vouchers and charter schools. What Spiceresque lunacy.

  747. NYCmike says:

    “My father and brother(s) aren’t here to do it for me.”

    -When you get paid AFTER all of the people who work for you, and AFTER anyone whom you purchased anything from, let me know.

    Then, you probably will realize why such snide remarks are very humorous.

  748. jason says:

    The WAPO has a hit piece on DeVos and Corey eats it up hook, line and sinker.

  749. NYCmike says:

    Until then, get your ass back to work!

  750. CG says:

    I don’t see how it is a hit piece at all. It paints her confirmation as a victory for the causes she has supported for decades. She has supported them with Jeb Bush.

    There is absolutely no distance between Bush and DeVos on education issues. I am glad you liked her selection so much, considering what an ardent supporter of Jeb Bush for President she was.

    (as was Scott Pruitt of OK, the EPA pick the left wants to try to scuttle next)

  751. CG says:

    Do you get paid after your brother(s)?

  752. NYCmike says:

    “CG” has gone so far off the rails that he is now going after a fellow #NeverTrumper, but one who has taken a step back (did so BEFORE the election, actually) and has been willing to look at news objectively, instead of through the prism set forth by the MSM.

    I LOVE IT!

  753. CG says:

    There are no #NeverTrumpers left here, besides me, when I choose to annoy myself enough to show up.

  754. CG says:

    Maybe Wissing himself, but he doesn’t seem to want to interact with you people.

    The comment section here becomes more and more like the Island, with each passing day.


  755. jason says:

    Corey is doubling down on the lie.

    Jeb Bush supports Common Core. Everyone knows that.

    Because people have a different view of what Common Core is, am I supposed to back away from something that I know works?”

    DeVos is clear in her own words she does not support Common Core.

    “Many of you are asking about Common Core. To clarify, I am not a supporter – period,” DeVos tweeted.

    It’s only not clear in Corey’s mind.

  756. NYCmike says:

    “Do you get paid after your brother(s)?”

    -Several years back, we all took a $$ hit at one point, when our business slowed, and we thought it more prudent to keep on ALL of the employees we had at that time.

    Thankfully, in our own unique ways, we have all helped our business come back, and hopefully planned correctly for the future so that we will not have to go that route again.

  757. wvally says:

    63 year old Christie Brinkley in SI swimsuit edition w her daughters. Wow.

  758. CG says:

    Jeb Bush supported a federal Common Core.

    There was a Bowling Green Massacre.

    Thousands of Muslims were seen celebrating 9/11 in New Jersey.

    Federal judges are only “so-called”

    jason has always been a Trumpist at heart. At least now he can admit it.

  759. Mr.Vito says:

    I see bubble boy is back.

  760. jason says:

    I guess Corey is too dumb to realize the WAPO piece was a hit piece on Jeb too.

  761. NYCmike says:

    “The comment section here becomes more and more like the Island, with each passing day.”

    -That is not true.

    There is no registration system, so you can keep coming here and showing off how sanctimonious you are.

  762. wvally says:

    Wtf jason has never been a Trumpist

  763. CG says:

    i.e, his blatant dishonesty, wvally.

  764. jason says:

    jason has always been a Trumpist at heart.”

    Give me ALL the ponts, MF’s!

  765. NYCmike says:

    I thought jason played the Trumpet, until I realized he was an A-Hole.

  766. CG says:

    He probably wore a red hat when he shot his dog.

  767. Bitterlaw says:

    There are no #NeverTrumpers left here, besides me, when I choose to annoy myself enough to show up.

    Well, it sort of became irrelevant after he was elected. People can still oppose him and the NeverTrump posts can start again in 2020.

  768. NYCmike says:

    Let me get to Author’s Twitter feed quickly, so that “CG” can correct what I say!

  769. wvally says:


  770. NYCmike says:


  771. wvally says:

    To an A-hole playing the trumpet

  772. NYCmike says:

    “He probably wore a red hat when he shot his dog.”

    -What does it matter what color winter hat he had on?

  773. NYCmike says:

    “Give me ALL the ponts, MF’s!”

    -Do you want the “fonts” as well, because I never wanted them?

  774. jason says:

    Nobody was more of a never-Trumper than me, but the election is over.

    I have been clear that there is a lot I don’t like about the Trump administration, especially on trade.

    But because I opposed him doesn’t mean I have to oppose him everything he does. I think his cabinets picks except for Commerce are pretty good, and I support his war against an MSM that is clearly trying to delegitimize his win. I think Gorsuch was a great pick.

    I will continue to support Trump now that he is President on what I think is good for the country.

    You are free to just whine about him for the next four years.

  775. CG says:

    I am glad NYC, that your employees and you are all getting paid now.

  776. Mr.Vito says:

    My recollection is that Bush said he didn’t mind if states chose differently because it should ultimately be a state’s choice, but he pushed for them to keep the federal Common Core standards in place.

  777. CG says:

    Interesting definition of the word “never.”

  778. CG says:

    Bush said during the campaign that the federal government would mess up standards if they tried to implement them, so he opposed federal standards, and believed that such decisions were best left to states and local districts.

  779. Mr.Vito says:

    Googled ‘common core Jeb Bush’… got this:

    Jeb Bush fights lonely battle defending Common Core

    “As opposition to Common Core began to swell in Tennessee, Jeb Bush showed up to an education forum in March of last year, advocating for state officials to keep the higher standards in place.
    Now, a little more than a year later, Bush returned to Nashville Saturday night to address the state’s GOP dinner, but his push for the state to hold onto Common Core didn’t succeed. Earlier this month, Republican Gov. Bill Haslam signed a bill to review the controversial standards and rebrand them with a Tennessee-specific focus.”

  780. CG says:

    “advocating for state officials to keep the higher standards in place.”

    I believe the key words are “state officials.”

    His position is that same as Secretary DeVos.

  781. CG says:

    Kasich went far further in being willing to advocate national standards anyway.

  782. CG says:

    From the CNN (only fake news when it speaks of Trump) article

    “I think the governor [Haslam] has every right to do anything as it relates to education policy,” Bush told reporters Saturday night, with Haslam standing by his side. “This should be a state issue. And Washington should have nothing to do with this at all.”

    Washington should have nothing to do with this at all….

  783. Mr.Vito says:

    Most of this goes back to the fact that Jeb was a really crappy messenger of his positions… and is why he ended up with four delegates.

  784. Mr.Vito says:

    Then he should not have meddled in Tennessee by pushing the higher federal standards.

  785. CG says:

    “Washington should have nothing to do with this at all.”

  786. Mr.Vito says:

    Saying “I want states to choose” means the people of the state should choose… not an ex-governor from Florida lobbying in Tennessee for federal standards begun under his brother’s federal administration.

  787. CG says:

    Exactly what DeVos has been saying.

  788. Mr.Vito says:

    “Washington should have nothing to do with this at all (but you should go with what they did instead of the compromise you made with your state)”

  789. CG says:

    They were standards set by the National Governors Association.

    He had every right as a private citizen, to lobby states. The Governor of TN was standing at his side when he said it.

    Clearly though, he never advocated national Common Core standards and certainly has always supported vouchers and charter schools, despite jason’s claims.

  790. Mr.Vito says:

    “Exactly what DeVos has been saying.”

    Well, then I’m glad she was against Jeb’s meddling in Tennessee and his pushing of the federal standards.

  791. CG says:

    “Contrary to what some believe, Common Core standards were not developed by the federal government but by the National Governors Association along with help from state education leaders, parents and teachers. The standards dictate what students in elementary school and high school should know by the end of each grade, and it’s up to the states to come up with testing and curriculum that align with those measurements.

    The federal government got involved when it gave states financial incentives to adopt higher standards. Those standards didn’t have to be Common Core, but since the standards were available, 46 states have adopted them since 2010, though some have since changed or eliminated them.”

    The problem in Florida was with Crist and the problem nationally was with Obama.

  792. Mr.Vito says:

    “National Governors Association”

    National being the key word there.

  793. CG says:

    There is no indication of him pushing “federal standards” just “high standards” which he said is best left to the states.

    “Washington should have nothing to do with this.”

  794. Mr.Vito says:

    The high standards that were in place… i.e. the national Common Core program.

  795. CG says:

    The National Governors Association is not a government entity. It is not part of the federal government. It is a voluntary group of Governors, who tend to advocate for more power to be divested in the states.

  796. CG says:

    The NGA Common Core program, which directly advised states to set their own standards.

  797. wvally says:

    Was just meeting w my son’s math teacher today. He’s a junior. Its called “MATH IV”. Because with common core, algebra, geometry, trig, etc have been all mixed up and spread throughout the years, a little bit each year.

    She says the math teachers loooove it. Bc it promotes critical thinking. All of the questions are “open ended”. As an example…they are not provided w the classic geometry proofs, they are to derive them on their own. I guess that’s the “higher standard”.

    When I took geometry, we were given the proofs, and got lots of practice at applying correctly to solve problems. Now, you spend more time thinking about how math works, and spend less time practicing actual math.

    Here’s the rub for us personally…my son has been scoring in 95-98% in MATH on ACT and SATs (he studies for those independently using prep books), but has been a B/C math student throughout high school. Go figure.

  798. CG says:

    Equating the “National Governors Association” (along with a National Council of Mayors or National County Board Association or National Association of State Attorneys General or whatever else kind of group may exist) with the term “federal” is just fundamentally inaccurate.

  799. Mr.Vito says:

    Of course, it is amazing that anyone thinks Betsy DeVos has anything to do with the Bushes right now…

    the republicans that voted against her are antiTrumpers.

  800. jason says:

    Jeb Bush is for Common Core. This should be a completely non-controversial statement since everyone knows that.

    But Corey is trying to fabricate a position for Jeb where he is not for “Federalized Common Core” which is something that does not even exist. In other words Corey has come up with some fake news.

    What Jeb is in favor of is federally funded Common Core Standards. He wants the feds to obligate the states to mandate Common Core standards.

    That is the top to bottom big government approach I referred to.

    This article illustrates better where Bush stands:

    “Furthermore, as Stanley Kurtz shows, the disagreement between Bush and Rubio goes even deeper than this. Sure, Bush says that states can opt out of Common Core. But he has been at the vanguard of a movement to make it very difficult for the states to do so. Kurtz writes:

    Bush and his Common Core-supporting allies have been pretending to favor local control for years. Yet Jeb has repeatedly backed the most controversial Obama administration moves to consolidate what amounts to a national curriculum.

    What are these “controversial moves”?

    The Obama administration’s solution has been to offer “Race to the Top” funding to states, or waivers of onerous federal education requirements, on condition that states adopt Common Core. . .The Obama administration has also directly funded two Common Core-aligned national testing consortia and charged them with developing curricular and instructional materials. This means that the federal government has set up and funded third parties to accomplish what it is legally prohibited from doing. . . .

    Federal carrots and sticks, along with massive infusions of Gates Foundation money, at a moment when state budgets were stressed to the breaking point by the financial crisis, stampeded more than forty states into adopting a completely untested reform, often sight unseen or before the standards themselves had been finalized.

    Where did Jeb Bush stand on this? According to Kurtz:

    I am sorry to say that Jeb Bush has been a leading supporter and cheerleader of this process from the start, often portraying what was in fact an illegitimate federal power-grab as a sterling example of local control.

    In a co-authored 2011 opinion piece making “The Case for Common Educational Standards,” Bush and New York educator Joel Klein deny federal overreach and present the states as voluntarily enrolling in Common Core. They speak of two testing consortia “of the states,” without noting federal financing of these national consortia. Bush and Klein portray a program explicitly designed to create uniform national standards as embodying “the beauty of our federal system.

    That’s not all.

    The Washington Post recently reported on Jeb’s appearance with Obama in March of 2011 to push the president’s education agenda. Bush’s alliance with the Obama administration on education policy was in fact broad and deep. They differed on school choice, yet were aligned on much else, Common Core above all.

    Consider the following 2010 video of an appearance by Obama education Secretary Arne Duncan at Bush’s Foundation for Excellence in Education. Duncan goes on about how many states have adopted Common Core (between 7:10 and 9:50), while repeatedly denying federal responsibility for the change. The Secretary doth protest too much, methinks.

    After Duncan’s talk, he and Jeb jointly take questions from the audience. Here it becomes obvious that on education policy, Jeb sees himself as allied with Duncan and Obama—in opposition to local-control-loving conservatives (as well as liberal teachers unions). Jeb’s political solution to attacks on the Common Core is to “push the two groups who are not reform-minded further away from what I think is the mainstream.” (See video between 27:30 and 29:30.)

    No wonder Obama operative Dan Pfeiffer tweeted after Thursday’s debate: “When I worked in the White House, we were always grateful to @JebBush for his efforts to help us urge states to adopt Common Core.”

    I agree with Kurtz’s conclusion: “Jeb Bush is a candidate of real ability, and a strong conservative in many respects. But obfuscation on Common Core will not suffice.”

  801. CG says:

    I have a meeting to get to. Goodluck with the Trump genuflecting to those who are currently enjoying taking part.

  802. CG says:

    DeVos and the Transition Team were highlighting the testimonials in favor of her nomination given by both Jeb Bush and his mother, so they clearly wanted the association made. Fortunately for her, it worked, by just enough.

  803. jason says:

    o wonder Obama operative Dan Pfeiffer tweeted after Thursday’s debate: “When I worked in the White House, we were always grateful to @JebBush for his efforts to help us urge states to adopt Common Core.”

    Clear as a bell.

  804. Mr.Vito says:

    “Equating the “National Governors Association”… with the term “federal” is just fundamentally inaccurate.”

    “The federal government got involved when it gave states financial incentives to adopt higher standards. Those standards didn’t have to be Common Core, but since the standards were available…”

    You are like an encyclopedia of why Bush couldn’t connect with anyone. As with everything else, and as any real conservative knows… federal money = they own it… do as we say or the money dries up.

  805. wvally says:

    Personally, I think think the whole federal Common Core push has to do with textbooks and tests, which are big business.

    They want the whole country to be purchasing the same materials to consolidate the text book and standardized testing industries.

  806. jason says:

    Fortunately for her, it worked, by just enough.”

    So all those senators who love Jeb Bush and Common Core voted for her because of the “association”.

    LOL, Corey is a clown.

  807. Mr.Vito says:

    More than anything, I’m surprised Corey is so bad at backing up his one-off grenades…

    I guess being in the bubble softens one up…

  808. NYCmike says:

    ” Goodluck with the Trump genuflecting”

    -For the last hour there have been really only 2 people mentioned: Devos and JEB!.

    Devos is mentioned because she is now working.
    JEB! was mentioned because Corey took a break from working.

  809. jason says:

    No, they want bureaucrat liberals to control education as much as possible.

    You know, the same liberal bureaucrats they want making decision on your medical procedures.

  810. jason says:

    Corey has to go now that he has been proven to be full of fake news.

  811. Mr.Vito says:

    “So all those senators who love Jeb Bush and Common Core voted for her because of the “association”.

    LOL, Corey is a clown.”

    This is the same guy who said it was embarrassing that it was so close. All the Trumpers went along… all the antiTrump Bush people did not.

  812. NYCmike says:

    Even JEB! doesn’t go around speaking about himself these days…..his foundation is tweeting about Devos.

    Only one lonely holdout is talking about JEB!……not even Robbie went Full-JEB!.

  813. Mr.Vito says:

    Not even Jeb is talking about Jeb anymore.

  814. Mr.Vito says:

    Did Corey disown Romney yet?

  815. NYCmike says:

    Corey showed why Tina made him Jebbot1 and Robbie was Jebbot2.

  816. NYCmike says:

    -Andrea Mitchell and Tavis Smiley display not an ounce of interest in being OBJECTIVE, yet “CG” keeps repeating their lines.

  817. wvally says:

    Here’s a long article in fortune from 2015 on common core. Interestingly, Rex Tillerson was one of the key advocates from the business world. The business leaders say they wanted universal standards bc our students come out of school so ill prepared. So they funded re-writing of standards by evaluating needs of businesses and colleges and working backwards.

    As a former teacher myself, I think they misdiagnosed the issue. The problem imo is lack of “tracking”. When I went to school, there were 5 separate tracks, based on your IQ essentially. Tracking has been reduced to honors (very small %) or not. The idea being to raise up the lowest kids. Problem is it lowers the level for kids on the right half of the bell curve.

    The standards are not the issue. It’s the refusal to accept that not everyone should be university bound, and many ppl should be routed towards trade school.

  818. CG says:

    846. Why lie?

    You post a link about something that Andrea Mitchell said about Merrick Garland and then you say I am repeating her lines.

    What in the world are you talking about?

  819. CG says:

    “The standards are not the issue.”

    I agree, although I do not believe they should be set by Washington. Having high standards and accountability are good things though, and testing is necessary, as it relates to both the performance of teachers and students.

  820. wvally says:

    And now of course we have high long term unemployment at the same time that we have not enough tech ready grads AND not enough people skilled in trades. All because tracking is unfair to kids w lower IQ.

    Standards used to be naturally higher for kids in upper tracks and you didn’t need national standards to achieve that.

  821. CG says:

    I remember taking national standardized tests in elementary school. I don’t think its a very new concept.

  822. Big Joe says:

    Common core, much like everything else in life, has become so political as it has gone into my “ignore” pile.

    That said, with 3 kids in public schools, I have been looking at their math lessons and I do have to say that the math techniques used are much more intuitive and make much more sense than the “traditional” methods I learned. The best solution appears to be a mix of new and traditional techniques and the students should be empowered to decide which technique is most effective in any given situation.

    Big Joe

  823. Big Joe says:

    The “carry the 1” or “borrow the 1” are not intuitive concepts.

    Big Joe

  824. CG says:

    Teach kids how to use calculators. Long division serves no purpose in the “real world.”

    When I was interviewing for jobs though a few years back, I was given some math tests and told I could not use a calculator. Long division, etc. It was horrifying and pointless.

  825. Big Joe says:

    All the silly anti-common core memes are out on Facebook. Why do I even have an account? ?

    Big Joe

  826. CG says:

    to read about the Knicks?

  827. Mr.Vito says:

    I can always tell the college students who used calculators to as a crutch rather than a tool. They have no ability for abstract mathematical thought… and they inevitably spend hours learning what they should have learned years ago, or most commonly, drop out of STEM.

  828. Big Joe says:

    “to read about the Knicks?”
    Uh yeah.. another reason to drop FB.

    As for mental long division, it keeps your brain young. Keep them synapses firing! 🙂

    Big Joe

  829. Big Joe says:

    Is this thread about to be locked?

    Big Joe

  830. CG says:

    It deserves to be.

  831. DW says:

    BREAKING: The thread is locked! No more posts can be made!!

  832. Big Joe says:

    Good bye all

  833. CG says:


    Care to explain post # 846? What in the world did I say about Merrick Garland to bring that about?

  834. NYCmike says:


    When you come here and say something like this “Somewhat embarrassing that it took a 50-50 vote…”, it sounds like a person trying to put the Trump administration and anyone associated with it in the worst possible light, just as someone like Mitchell or Smiley would, hence my use of the words “repeating their lines.”.

    Those words were not to be taken literally, but to show the similarity of their approach along with yours.

    I THOUGHT you would be able to figure that out yourself, but alas, I was wrong.

  835. CG says:

    When I have ever mentioned or cited Andrea Mitchell or Tavis Smiley? I don’t know if I ever have, but it certainly was not today or anytime soon.

    What have I “repeated” and what does that have to do with Andrea Mitchell said about Garland?

  836. NYCmike says:

    #865 is for you, “CG”.

  837. CG says:

    “Those words were not to be taken literally”

    Thank you for confirming that you were basically just being full of crap. That sort of thing definitely fits in with Trumpworld.

    So, since you now admit that there is no similarity at all in my beliefs as they relate to Garland and Senate Republicans, with that of Mitchell or Smiley, I will take your frequent off-topic diatribes into account and realize that MD had the right idea about you.

  838. NYCmike says:

    “CG”, MD, jason, Author, etc….similes and metaphors have no place in their WORLD!

    Be gone, ye plebeian grammatical tools!

  839. CG says:

    “similarity of their approach along with yours”

    If they got a fact wrong, they should be called on it.

    If I give an opinion, about Trump, or whomever, it’s called an opinion. If I get a fact wrong, feel free to point that out. Nobody is perfect and people sometimes makes mistakes, but my criticisms of Trump have factual standing. You have to stop being a snowflake when people have an opinion different than yours.

  840. CG says:

    When you accuse someone of “repeating” , even if you are just being rhetorical, you should at least make sure you understand their views are not in direct opposition with those you are accusing them of “repeating” after.

  841. Walt says:


    They find Brady’s jersey yet?

  842. CG says:

    You also do not seem to know the actual definition of either a “simile” or a “metaphor.”

  843. NYCmike says:


    I appreciate you letting me know all those very important things.

    In regards to “snowflakes”, I laughed at your line about Devos, because it is very similar to how the MSM try to downplay anything good that happens to Republicans. I enjoyed pointing that out to you.

    Deal with it, my melting friend!

  844. NYCmike says:

    Simile, senility, smile, The Nile….

  845. CG says:

    I’m the one that is praising DeVos. It’s the Breitbart crowd that does not like her.

    But yes, a 50-50 vote for an Education Secretary is unprecedented, and not in a good a way. It’s not a huge deal moving forward, because she has the job, but it was not supposed to happen that way. I do not personally understand why the left went after her more than some of the others.

    If you want to say that it demonstrates the anti-wealth attitudes of the populist left and right or the dangerous influence that the teachers unions hold on the Democrat Party, that’s fine. It’s all part of the story.

    I like DeVos and was very happy when she was nominated. She should have been better equipped to answer the questions about IDEA and some of the other policy matters that came up in the hearing.

  846. CG says:

    The s.tuff about “she never sent her kids to the public schools” or “she never got financial aid” was ludicrous.

  847. Robbie says:

    I just watched Kellyanne Conway on CNN. She does an admirable job defending Trump’s off message quips, but the act is really starting to wear thin. Trump’s ad libbed line yesterday that the press doesn’t cover terrorism enough has, yet again, stepped all over what should have been a good couple of news days.

    Trump’s miscues just since the inauguration.

    – Crowd size
    – Claim that 3-5 million voted illegally
    – “so called” judge tweet
    – Moral equivalence of the US and Putin
    – Press doesn’t cover terrorism

    I know I have missed a few miscues, but they are coming with regularity now. They didn’t during most of the transition though. It’s only as he got closer to inauguration and the presidency that the pace picked up.

  848. CG says:

    The man is a psychopath (opinion). None of this is going to end well for the country. Sure, in the meantime, we will get a good Supreme Court Justice and maybe some good legislation, crafted by others for him to sign, here and there. Yippie.

  849. CG says:

    Jill Stein has a Tweet attacking Democrats and blaming them for DeVos being confirmed.

    She seems not to grasp the fact that they voted 100 percent against her. There may be a place for Jill in the Trump White House Press Office though.

  850. NYCmike says:

    (I hope they keep this 2-man show going for a while…it is hilarious!)

  851. janz says:

    “I will continue to support Trump now that he is President on what I think is good for the country.”


    you have frequently said that in your posts. I know you didn’t like Trump but I commend you for being able to separate out what you still don’t like about him, versus what you find satisfactory and worthy of support.

    As for DeVos’s approval, I’m relieved, she was able to get through the Senate gauntlet. How she will be as Educational Secretary remains to be seen. However, her endorsement of school choice and seeking better education for inner city kids is so needed, especially if she can circumvent the thicket of school unions trying to take her down, and accomplish her goals.

  852. CG says:

    jason has earned his spot in the Continental Army. Raise that musket!

  853. jason says:

    I know you didn’t like Trump”

    I thought I hd made that clear, but lo and behold

    CG says:
    February 7, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    jason has always been a Trumpist at heart. At least now he can admit it.”

    I think I am going to stop trying to please everyone here, its just not working out.

  854. janz says:

    Jason, you did make it clear. I’m simply giving you kudos for updating your opinions, while not compromising your principles.

    However, it seems nothing ever changes with Corey.

  855. CG says:

    “while not compromising your principles.

    nothing ever changes with Corey.”


  856. Trump says:

    What is wrong it’s these two Jeb co$&suckers?

    Hate is not good for your health, as-wipes.

  857. jason says:

    Common core, much like everything else in life, has become so political as it has gone into my “ignore” pile.”

    And who has made it so political? The Democrats and the NEA. Conservatives don’t have a problem with improving standards, what they have a problem with is the Democrats using it like they use Global Warming, as a tool to implement their agenda.

    Jeb Bush was the last one on the GOP side to see that, if he has seen it at all.

    Instead of doubling down on his support for Common Core, he should have said unfortunately the Democrats have tried to co-opt it for their political purposes and I can no longer be a part of it.

    Corey is still trying to make excuses for Jeb Bush’s horrible political blunders and claim he was “misunderstood”. There must of been a heck of a lot of “misunderstandings”.

  858. CG says:

    By claiming that Jeb Bush did not support vouchers and charter schools, it’s already obvious how dishonest on the subject you are.

  859. DW says:

    who were the Republicans who voted against DeVos?

  860. CG says:

    “The Common Core was written by state education superintendents and local principals. In my state of …., we want higher standards for our children, and those standards are set and the curriculum is set by local school boards,” …. said on “Fox News Sunday.” “Barack Obama doesn’t set it, the state of …. doesn’t set it. It is local school boards driving better education, higher standards, created by local school boards.

    “I’ve asked the Republican governors who have complained about this to tell me where I’m wrong, and guess what, silence.”

    Name that candidate. I guess Jeb wasn’t the last one to “defend” it.

  861. Trump says:

    These two dem concern trolls looking out for Trump’s welfare?

    Who was born last night?

  862. CG says:

    “Who was born last night?”

    Many, many anchor babies

  863. DW says:

    it was Collins and Murkowski. Usual suspects.

  864. CG says:

    But yet, they still voted for every other nominee (even the one(s) I think they should not have), so it’s not just a reflexive anti-Trump action for them, if they are voting yes for everyone else.

    I am sure some here believe it would be better if Alaska and Maine had Democrat Senators instead.

  865. CG says:

    We should know tomorrow or Thursday who the next Senator from Alabama is.

    Someone on here, a few weeks back, said it was going to be Lt. Governor Kay Ivey. Her name has not been mentioned in correlation with the seat in any story and was never listed as among the literally dozens of people that Bentley interviewed for it, so despite that claim, I bet it’s not her.

  866. Wes says:

    Richard Hatch of Battlestar Galactica fame has passed.


  867. CG says:

    The belief is that Attorney General Luther Strange will get picked. He says he will run for the seat regardless. He will be the tallest U.S. Senator.

    Getting rid of the state AG is a way for Bentley to put the kibosh or brakes on his impeachment issues.

  868. CG says:

    That’s not the fat naked guy from Survivor?

  869. Trump says:

    Why is anyone concerned about what Jeb thinks? About anything?

    The only thing Jeb is good for is being pointed at laughed at, for being the stupid schmuck who got 3 delegates for $159m.

    Worst candidate in the history of elections. The entire history.

  870. DW says:

    901 – You are wrong. It was 4 delegates.

  871. Robbie says:

    I’ve written a lot about the incompetence of Trump’s White House staff because it’s deserved. One place that deserves a lot of credit though is how his staff conducted the search for his first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch.

    The NYT had a great write-up about the process and it was very professionally done. It’s exactly how we should hope the search would be conducted. The buried lead though is the story states Raymond Kethledge and Brett Kavanaugh, both Kennedy clerks, are the two most likely replacements.

    If Trump was to name either Kethledge or Kavanaugh, he would have done a great thing.

    See, I can offer praise when it’s warranted.

  872. CashCow TM says:

    For the record…

    1. JEB was a big proponent of Common Core. Both as head of Governors association and as governor of FL (during and after his tenure).

    2. If anyone believes that local teachers and local principal had a lot of control over what is taught and how under common core you are full of more cow manure than me.

    3. I do not know what DeVos position is on common core. I would hope any Sec. of Ed. in a Trump admin would favor more local control, more state control and less federal control, dictates, money dangling to force states to adopt what the feds in the Dept. of Educ. say the states should adopt.

    4. I am off to Facebook to see the liberal heads explode over her winning her (slim) confirmation. I expect I will find venom…

  873. Trump says:


    Jeb Bush – bound delegates 3 (hard count), popular vote 0.92 percent, contests won None, running mate None

    That is his batting stats.

  874. jason says:

    Worst candidate in the history of elections. The entire history.”

    Zzzzzz…. I said that even BEFORE he self destructed, because I could see the writing on the wall.

  875. Trump says:

    And Jeb co$&sucker, nobody cares what you think. Trump does not want your praise.

  876. jason says:

    Wobbie and Corey still look at everything from a Jeb Bush perspective.

    Beyond ridiculous. They just can’t let it go that their candidate was a complete and utter failure.

    Wobbie to say something negative about Rubio in 3,2, 1….

  877. Trump says:

    I think the worst thing Trump has done s not deport Jeb.

  878. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, Dakota Access Pipeline gets final approval.

    And it’s less than 3 weeks of Trump.

  879. jason says:

    Hey Soccer Moron, the Jebbot called me a Trumpista.

    Eat your heart out.

  880. Trump says:

    Can’t go by what Jeb coc$suckers say, la raza pimp.

    They are brain-fried, they don’t count.

  881. jason says:

    But yet, they still voted for every other nominee (even the one(s) I think they should not have),”

    Who might that be? Who should they have voted against?

  882. Trump says:

    They believe a lot of things that ain’t so.

    For example, Jeb

  883. jason says:

    ‘Can’t go by what Jeb coc$suckers say, la raza pimp.”

    Soccer Moron says I am a La Raza Pimp, Corey says I am a Trumpista.

    I should retire, at some stage you can just have too many points.

  884. Trump says:

    You have to go by what Trump says.

  885. NYCmike says:

    ““Somewhat embarrassing that it took a 50-50 vote…”,”

    “I’m the one that is praising DeVos.”

    -I don’t know how I could have gotten a different impression!

  886. NYCmike says:

    Kids walked out of NYC schools today, protesting Trump and Devos.

    Also, they yelled out support for DACA.

    Robbie and Corey keep speaking about Trump’s “errors”, and then voting adults see this.

    Something tells me Trump “errors” are not being spoken about at home, but the constant protests are, and NOT in a good way.

  887. jason says:

    Jebbots are still in denial. Corey is still trying to defend Jeb’s common core stance, which was basically political suicide. Trying to defend his decision to muddle up the middle, basically political suicide. Trying to defend “act of love”, basically political suicide. Trying to defend “I will respect conservatives” basically political suicide. Trying to defend the horrible debates and body language during the campaign. Trying to defend spending tens of millions to damage Rubio while Trump ate his lunch. The end result was $150 million plus for 3 or 4 delegates, but that doesn’t convince him Jeb Bush was the worst “front runner” in the history of primaries.

    One wonders what Jeb Bush would have to do for the Jebbots to admit he was a horrible candidate.

  888. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Take a lot at the mountain of garbage and filth the so called “environmentalists” left at the Dakota Pipeline site.

  889. CashCow TM says:


    Venom on Facebook over DeVos confirmation.

    Even our own salmon coated Michael voicing his displeasure.

    Wonder when the left will get used to the figurative tire tracks on they bodies as they march, protest and flog themselves over who DJT appoints and what policies he enacts?

    On and speaking of march…the left is planning a big POST CARD MAILING DAY on March 15 to deluge the White House and tell him of their displeasure and that he is FIRED! and destroy DJT.

  890. NYCmike says:


    Be fair. I do believe Robbie has made some statements separating himself from Corey-world on the JEB! issue.

    BUT, then he’ll look at his Steve Bannon voodoo doll and start yapping about that.

  891. NYCmike says:

    “Even our own salmon coated Michael voicing his displeasure.”

    -What are the reasons, especially from Michael?

  892. NYCmike says:

    #920 – “CG”,

    Is that Trump’s fault?

    After all, if Hillary, the pragmatic compromiser, had been elected, the protesters would have planted beautiful gardens instead.

  893. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “the left is planning a big POST CARD MAILING DAY on March 15 to deluge the White House.”

    Oh Noooo… not the dreaded post card mailing!! The end is near. Know Obamacon will show up to taunt us. The post office may run out of stamps!!

  894. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    924. “After all, if Hillary, the pragmatic compromiser, had been elected, the protesters would have planted beautiful gardens instead.”

    You can see what a beautiful garden by protesters looks like in post 920.

  895. wvally says:

    the left is planning a big POST CARD MAILING DAY on March 15

    *** yes. My February book club night is being repurposed to prepare a stockpile. Unfortunately something came up for me…

  896. DW says:

    Jeb had 1 delegate from IA and 3 from NH, and somewhere along the way after that lost one.

    So originally he did have 4–lets give him credit where it is due. 4 delegates is pretty impressive for 150 million dollars. Percentage-wise, its a huge increase over 3 delegates.

  897. Robbie says:

    Why is Jason droning on about Jeb Bush? He left the presidential primary race 51 weeks ago. He’s old news and his political career is over.

  898. Trump says:

    Because Jeb’s death stench still permeates you and the other co$&sucker.

  899. Robbie says:

    Oh, I see now. Jason’s search for Rubio’s real killer is still focused on Jeb. I guess he still hans’t figured out Rubio didn’t have geographic stonghold or a money advantage and that’s why he was never able to effectively break through.

    I understand why he’s frustrated, though. A year ago yesterday Rubio’s software malfunctioned on the NH debate stage and what was likely to be a strong second place showing ended up a weak fifth place showing.

    I’ll say this about Marco. He was able to quickly forget his comments about Trump’s hand size or selling #neverTrump swag on his website so he could endorse Donald. That’s pragmatism over idealism.

  900. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 7, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Be fair. I do believe Robbie has made some statements separating himself from Corey-world on the JEB! issue.

    BUT, then he’ll look at his Steve Bannon voodoo doll and start yapping about that.

    – I acknowledged in September 2015 Jeb’s candidacy had cratered. I still wanted him to win, but I realized it was extremely unlikely.

    – As for Steve Bannon, I don’t believe he’s some nefarious character. Far from it. He wouldn’t have become CoS for an Admiral if he was the evil person the press portrays him to be. That said, I think he an Stephen Miller served him very, very poorly with the immigration order.

  901. Tina says:

    Where are the folks citing sopan deb or whatever his name is.

  902. Tina says:

    So the flub aplointed judge made a factual error, as reported by the gp site.

  903. Tina says:

    Its tough for our side when little mitchie is just weak.

    The guy is drunk on ky bourbon.

  904. CashCow TM says:

    CowResearch has discovered the following:

    Dave W. (the Wizard) has put up New Threads on

    January 11
    January 16
    January 17
    January 21
    January 23
    January 25
    January 31
    February 1
    February 2

    It is Now February 7.
    Tomorrow will be Feb. 8th.

    This year, Dave W has not gone longer than 6 days before putting up a clean piece of paper.
    We need to step up our game to post things that support the blog as Dave intended–political news, polls and our erudite insight.

    (and of course maybe a post or two about monkeys, deer, etc.)

  905. Trump says:

    Robbie may have given up on Jeb, but the stench lingers.

    His rants are nothing but a primal cry of “why oh why can’t trump be like Jeb?”

  906. PresidentPaul! says:

    Stop the Never Trumpers
    Rand Paul: Do not let Elliott Abrams anywhere near the State Department

    Abrams was equally dismissive throughout Trump’s entire candidacy. As a Never-Trumper, he repeatedly said he would neither vote for Clinton nor Trump. He likened the choice to the one the nation faced of McGovern vs. Nixon.

    But just as importantly, Congress has good reason not to trust him — he was convicted of lying to Congress in his previous job.

    His conviction for deceiving Congress over secret arms deals, better known as the Iran-Contra scandal, show that his neocon agenda trumps his fidelity to the rule of law. The Constitution directs Congress to approve or disapprove of war. It would be a mistake to appoint anyone to the State Department who was previously convicted for defying Congressional authority.

    The neocon trademark is to conduct war in secret to avoid congressional scrutiny. This is exactly what happened during Iran-Contra. Despite legislation that prohibited sending arms to Nicaragua, Abrams and other neocons surreptitiously funneled money from sultans in Brunei to sheiks in Iran, converting the cash into weapons that were then sent to authoritarians in Nicaragua.

    Abrams also supervised, covered up and defended a policy of arming a Guatemalan government undeniably waging war against an indigenous native population. Thousands of the indigenous people of the Ixil region of Guatemala were exterminated. The Guatemalan President was eventually convicted of war crimes. Abrams was an unabashed supporter and organizer of sending arms into this tragic situation.

  907. Robbie says:

    Tina never disappoints. She attacks McConnell as weak, yet he is the man who saved the SCOTUS nominee for a Republican president.

    Even better, Tina launches an attack on McConnell as being weak at the very time he is slapping Elizabeth Warren down in the Senate for disparaging Jeff Sessions on the floor of the Senate, something that’s against the rules.

    At least there were none of the usual spelling errors.

  908. PresidentPaul! says:

    What Abrams wishes to achieve once he infiltrates the administration

    Iran has long been a focus of Abram’s advocacy. A vocal opponent of the negotiations that led to the 2015 nuclear deal, he accused the Obama administration of being naïve in its efforts at rapprochement with Tehran, even after moderate President Hassan Rouhani was elected in 2013. “We are fooling ourselves if we see in [President Hassan] Rouhani a reformer who wishes to change the Iranian system, move toward democracy, and abandon the nuclear weapons program. That ‘Rouhani narrative’ was carefully constructed to ensnare Western diplomats, officials, and journalists. We have no excuse if we fall for it,” Abrams wrote in his CFR blog in October 2013.[5]

    Regarding negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, Abrams wrote in mid-2014 that “the road to peace does not lie through weak agreements with brutal dictatorships” and that “any agreement that strengthens the Iranian regime–that enhances its reputation, that gives it greater leverage in the Middle East, or that strengthens its strangle-hold on the Iranian people–serves neither the cause of freedom nor that of peace.”[6]

    Remarked one commentator: “If the negotiations fail, the chances of military action increase exponentially. The consequences promise to be disastrous, both to the people of Iran and to the global economy. More death and misery. But, for Mr. Abrams, all that suffering can be winked at.”[7]

    Abrams has on numerous occasions sought to lay the groundwork for direct U.S. confrontation with Iran. In August 2012, for instance, he argued in the Weekly Standard blog that Congress should vote on a joint resolution to give the president the authority to go to war with Iran.[14] In a January 2011 post on his CFR blog, Abrams highlighted apparent setbacks in Iran’s nuclear program to urge the United States to aggressively pursue regime-change strategies in that country, including strengthening sanctions. He wrote: “The new Republican leaders of the House Armed Services, Foreign Affairs, and Intelligence Committees—respectively Buck McKeon, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and Mike Rogers—ought to make this their first order of business. They should be asking right now what more the United States and our allies can be doing to stop the Iranian nuclear weapons program, make our sanctions more effective, and support democratic dissidents in Iran.”[15]

  909. Trump says:

    Wow, McConnell is speechifying in the senate!!!

    What courage!!!

  910. Trump says:

    And stop yapping about Bannon, moron.

    99 percent of people in the country do not even know who Bannon is.

  911. PresidentPaul! says:

    McConnell has done a good job actually unlike Paul Ryan.

  912. Tina says:

    Hiw many cavinet picks is it now? 7. Comfirmed vs hiw many for w or obumbler?

    Obumblercare nit repealed?

    Yes, mitchie and ryan need accountability.

  913. Tina says:

    And no ag pick yet. Just delay and delay. While mitchie is drunk 24/7.

    I am no mark levine groupie but he does a great impersatiin of the ky rino.

  914. CashCow TM says:

    “Over 400 former EPA staff members sent a letter to the U.S. Senate asking it to reject the nomination of Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt as the agency’s new leader, saying “he has shown no interest in enforcing environmental laws.”

    In Chicago, around 30 employees of the EPA’s regional office there joined a protest organized by the Sierra Club environmental group and the American Federation of Government Employees to protest Pruitt’s nomination.”

  915. CashCow TM says:


    Are there wild celebrations out there in San Fran now that the city has declared that everyone gets free college education?

    Does it rival a super bowl celebration? election of Obama in 2008? End of WW II when Japan surrenders?

  916. NYCmike says:

    “In Chicago, around 30 employees of the EPA’s regional office there joined a protest organized by the Sierra Club environmental group and the American Federation of Government Employees to protest Pruitt’s nomination.””

    -All of them should be able to be fired, no?

    Or simply do away with that office, and put it in MI, WI, IN, MO, or IA. Or southern part of Illinois.

  917. Tina says:

    Free tuition for the illegals, cash cow.

  918. Trump says:

    Invoke the Holman rule on these deadbeats.

  919. NYCmike says:


    The way it is playing out, it is almost as if Trump asked Mitchie to walk it slow, give time for the liberal kooks (and “CG”) to explode with each new appointee getting thru committee, and then thru full Senate.

    Maybe the Burnett guy who produced “The Apprentice” will make it into a reality TV show to help reduce the national debt.

    The ratings will be YUUGE!

  920. jason says:

    By claiming that Jeb Bush did not support vouchers and charter schools, it’s already obvious how dishonest on the subject you are.”

    I said DeVos favors a much bigger role for vouchers and charter schools, I never said Jeb did not support them.

    Let’s make a deal.

    If you can find ANYWHERE I said Jeb Bush did not support vouchers and charter schools, I will admit to dishonesty.

    But if you can’t, you admit you are lying.


    I would bet money, but since you already lost $1000 betting on Hillary, I will give you a break.

  921. jason says:

    Rand Paul: Do not let Elliott Abrams anywhere near the State Department”

    Did someone make Rand Paul President?

    Don’t let Rand Paul anywhere near executive decisions.

  922. jason says:

    jason says:
    February 7, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Wobbie to say something negative about Rubio in 3,2, 1….”

    Robbie says:
    February 7, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    ….I guess he still hans’t figured out Rubio didn’t have geographic stonghold or a money advantage and that’s why he was never able to effectively break through.”

    Not only do I get all the points, I am prescient.

  923. Mr.Vito says:

    “… speaking of march…the left is planning a big POST CARD MAILING DAY on March 15 to deluge the White House…”

    Great… maybe Trump can save the Post Office, too.

  924. Mr.Vito says:

    “Why is Jason droning on about Jeb Bush? He left the presidential primary race 51 weeks ago. He’s old news and his political career is over.”

    Corey should take notes from Robbie…

  925. lisab says:

    “They want the whole country to be purchasing the same materials to consolidate the text book and standardized testing industries.”

    in regards to testing, it is very difficult at best to evaluate schools right now.

    states do not use the same tests, and states will change tests from year to year, so it is difficult to evaluate how the students are doing

  926. Mr.Vito says:

    “Over 400 former EPA staff members sent a letter to the U.S. Senate asking it to reject the nomination of Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt as the agency’s new leader, saying “he has shown no interest in enforcing environmental laws.”

    Awesome… I hope they all signed it.

  927. lisab says:

    “he has shown no interest in enforcing environmental laws.”

    you do not see that as a problem?

  928. Mr.Vito says:

    only if I believed them… undoubtedly they mean regulations that will no longer exist

  929. Mr.Vito says:

    If he does refuse a congressional law, let me know… and I’ll complain, too.

    The boys have cried wolf for far too long.

  930. lisab says:

    “The problem imo is lack of “tracking”. When I went to school, there were 5 separate tracks, based on your IQ essentially. Tracking has been reduced to honors (very small %) or not.”

    tracking is not considered a good thing anymore

    it led to many boys being placed in lower tracks because they were less able to sit still and take tests, while girls who at certain ages mature faster were placed in the “college” tracks

    and many young men were left ill prepared for college because they could not sit still in 6th grade

  931. lisab says:

    “only if I believed them… undoubtedly they mean regulations that will no longer exist”

    ok, i understand your position better

  932. NYCmike says:

    “If he does refuse a congressional law, let me know… and I’ll complain, too.

    The boys have cried wolf for far too long.”

    -Well said!

  933. lisab says:

    “And now of course we have high long term unemployment at the same time that we have not enough tech ready grads AND not enough people skilled in trades. All because tracking is unfair to kids w lower IQ.”

    actually, that happened because of tracking

  934. lisab says:

    “I remember taking national standardized tests in elementary school. ” corey

    ummmmmm … no you don’t

    Standardized Tests by State

  935. lisab says:

    “They find Brady’s jersey yet?”

    why? … are you interested? do you have cash?

  936. lisab says:

    “I do not personally understand why the left went after her more than some of the others.” corey

    because there is a suspicion that she would allow parents to use tax money in the form of vouchers to send their children to religious based private schools

  937. lisab says:

    “The man is a psychopath (opinion).”

    he is not.

    some might say he has narcissistic personality disorder

    but part of that would be “fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.”

    and he is a billionaire president

  938. Mr.Vito says:

    Living the dream

  939. Mr.Vito says:

    MConnell is apparently the only being on earth with the ability to make Elizabeth Warren stop talking.


  940. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey is not happy that all he will get from Trump is a good SCOTUS justice a few good laws? What would we have gotten from Hillary? Nothing.

  941. Wes says:

    For all those laboring under the delusion that Mitch McConnell is a weak Majority Leader, he invoked an obscure Senate rule to ensure Liz Warren couldn’t impugn Jeff Sessions’ character ahead of the confirmation vote. Warren subsequently had to give up her character assassination.

    On the surface, this seems like a meaningless procedural move winning an unimportant victory over a moonbat.

    What McConnell may have done though by silencing Warren’s rant is set the stage for Gorsuch’s confirmation. Rule XIX–the rule McConnell cited–allows each Senator to speak only twice during a Senate working day.

    This being the case, McConnell can just schedule a day for Gorsuch to be confirmed. Inevitably moonbat Dem Senators will try to block him. Then McConnell can just let them ramble till all Dem Senators opposing Gorsuch can’t continue either physically or by the rules. Then McConnell just calls a vote, and the Senate confirms Gorsuch.

    It seems Mitch McConnell has indeed grown comfortable in his role as Majority Leader and is willing to use his power and knowledge of Senate rules to keep NYCMike’s preferred choice for Majority Leader–Chuck Schumer–from blowing the place up.

  942. Wes says:

    You know, I could understand why Bay Staters elected Paul Tsongas, John Kerry, and Marty Meehan to the Senate. Of course those guys were/are all liberal, but they’re largely noncontroversial and fit the state well.

    I never got the Ted Kennedy love unless Bay Staters just have a weird fetish for drunken, besotted debauchees who drown women in cars and try to rape waitresses and are national embarassments.

    I really don’t understand why Warren is a fairly popular Massachusetts pol though. She’s completely ineffectual as a Senator, has none of the personal connections to the state the male Senators of her party have had, and just looks like an Vietnam-era radical.

    It’s too bad she has that seat as long as she wants it.

    On a more positive note, Warren has routinely campaigned for Dem Senate candidates, all of whom lost, wince 2014, so maybe having her as a Senator is an oblique plus since she’s the Dem Senate candidates’ equivalent of Typhoid Mary.

  943. Tina says:

    He is weak, because the number of cabinet officials confirmed is low. This is dangerous.

    Also, he has failed to repeal obumblercare. Should have been the first action.

    It seems like the drats are running the senate.

    But if you are hapoy with his performance…

  944. Tina says:

    Espn is losing money? Hmm maybe they should act like a sports channel with no political leanings, rather than cnn lite.

  945. Tina says:

    Jebots are mad that trump criticized a seattle judge, who has made factual errors in his decision and whose actions are creating a constituional crisis,

    W called those judges activist judges at the time.

    The so called judge deserves to be criticized. He needs to take a course on constitutional law.

  946. NYCmike says:

    I am happy to be the moderating influence between the genuflection of Wes and the absurd expectations of Tina.

    More cowbell!

  947. Tina says:

    Rs are scared at replacing obumblercare. The same scared rs are now proposing a carbon tax.

    They are not prepared to govern, the 2 year window is closing and nothing is being done.

  948. NYCmike says:

    -“DeVos survived because President Trump is determined to deliver a government that shatters the insiders’ perks and privilege and opens the door to new ways of doing things. In education, that means giving more parents the power of school choice and taking power away from the union establishment.”

    Good win’s take, and one I largely agree with.

    Corey to be here shortly to say that Trump is only determined to shoot one of his supporters on Fifth Avenue and still have that person vote for him in 2020.

  949. NYCmike says:

    “They are not prepared to govern, the 2 year window is closing and nothing is being done.”

    -Ok, I am getting closer to Tina’s side with every passing day.

  950. Wes says:

    Tina, Trump took office just a few weeks ago. Cabinet confirmations come first for an incoming Administration. (For example, Reagan ran on a sweeping tax cut in 1980. Under Howard Baker, the Senate first confirmed Reagan’s cabinet appointees. It took up action on what would become the Kemp-Roth tax bill that summer, and the Congress delivered the bill to Reagan in September 1981.)

    Obamacare repeal will have its time AFTER the Senate has finished letting the Dems make fools of themselves in vain attempts to block Trump’s nominees. We can argue the pace should be faster, but all the nominees are getting confirmation. As a bonus, the Dems look like an armada of rabid bonobos and come across as petty elites.

    Give this time. If by March, Trump’s cabinet isn’t full, you’ll have a point. At this point though, I think McConnell is doing things best by letting the Dems howl vainly to try to stop nominees guaranteed to win confirmation anyway.

  951. NYCmike says:

    Ok, I am getting closer to Wes’s side again…

  952. Wes says:

    Trump has been in office 19 days. Obamacare hasn’t been repealed. (It won’t be repealed completely by the way. The popular portions will remain law.) Trump’s cabinet isn’t complete but gets bigger continually.

    Naturally it looks as if the Dems–who’ve lost every battle since Trump took office–are winning.

    What am I missing here?

  953. Trump says:

    I am ok with the pace of things. Senate seems to be moving forward with the nominations. Most would prefer faster action, but this is not unusual.

    Not sure what the house is doing. I think their problem with Obamacare is that they are reluctant to give up the taxes.

    On a side note, I noticed the country on right track poll from the Ras. It has been mired as 2:1 wrong track for years, which is why we got Trump. Since his inauguration, that measure has now moved to a tie.

  954. wvally says:

    tracking is not considered a good thing anymore

    it led to many boys being placed in lower tracks because they were less able to sit still and take tests, while girls who at certain ages mature faster were placed in the “college” tracks

    and many young men were left ill prepared for college because they could not sit still in 6th grade


    I see your point, no system is perfect. But when I was in tracked classes, there were not a predominance of girls in the upper tracks. It was pretty evenly split.

    In the science classes I taught within the last 10 years in public school, it was Honors or not. In “not” honors, you had a massive range in aptitude. The way you’re supposed to deal with this is “differentiated instruction”. That is very difficult to pull off in practice.

    IMO very few teachers were able to make a non-Honors class truly college preparatory.

  955. NYCmike says:

    “On a side note, I noticed the country on right track poll from the Ras.”

    -Ras is unacceptable fake news!/

  956. NYCmike says:

    “Former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney described the proposal in a tweet as a “thought-provoking plan from highly respected conservatives to both strengthen the economy and confront climate risks.””

    -This is why Romney did not get elected, and I hope Trump will not fall for this as well.

  957. NYCmike says:

    -Drama queen.

    All talk is about “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS”, not those here legally.

    Get it straight, Jorge!

  958. Robbie says:

    Every time Tina posts a comment, she shows how little she actually knows. It’s not surprising though. She is a comment section conservative. She believes everything she reads on far right websites and then echoes it in screwball comments that are almost always divorced from reality. As long as GatwayPundit is her north star, she will continue to look out of her mind.

  959. Robbie says:

    I always get a kick out of Jason’s eagerness to attack Jeb Bush. He offers goofy screeds and then ends it with “Robbie to attack Rubio in 1..2..3.

    It’s not secret I love to bash Rubio as a convictionless opportunist, but Jason is every bit as predictable, if not more, when it comes to Jeb.

    Let’s be fair though. He was right that Bush would prove to be a mediocre candidate. On the other hand, I was right to say back in early 2014 there’s was little chance Rubio would be the nominee either because of his poor political instincts, his lack of a geographical base, and inability to raise large sums of money with Bush in the race.

  960. Robbie says:

    It would really be nice if Trump’s children convinced him to stop Tweeting. A good portion of his problems would disappear instantly.

  961. Jake says:

    RFK son, Chris Kennedy, to run for Illinois Governor

  962. Mr.Vito says:

    “All talk is about “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS”, not those here legally.”

    Definitely not all the talk… do you mean the rhetoric?

  963. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump takes his case directly to everyday people and connects… again Robbie, I suggest you take a month off and just listen. I was totally against Trump as everyone here knows… then I stopped posting for a while and just listened to people… at the store, at the diner, at the VA, in the poverty stricken rural areas… came back and let everyone know that Trump could win this thing and got laughed at.

  964. Trump says:

    If Trump listened to morons like Robbie, he would be sitting at home

    Just like Jeb.

  965. Mr.Vito says:

    From FOX

    “Trump read out parts of the federal law outlining presidential powers on the subject, saying it was written clearly and “beautifully.”

    The part of the U.S. Code he read specifies that when the president “finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation … suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

    “A bad high school student would understand this,” he said.

    Trump said he listened to the judges Tuesday and, while vowing not to comment specifically on the hearing,” said: “I listened to a bunch of stuff last night on television that was disgraceful, it was disgraceful.”


    Trump has an uncanny way of talking like everyday people and just mirroring what’s in their heads but won’t say aloud. It’s probably because he spends an incredible amount of time, for a billionaire, talking to everyday people.

  966. Trump says:

    Thank god Jeb’s supporters are like Robbie and Corey.

    Self-identified loonies who damage their preferred candidates relentlessly. When Jeb listens to these morons, he automatically digs himself an insurmountable hole.

  967. JulStol says:


  968. Mr.Vito says:

    here is the link and the video… It think it is a very convincing clip for Main Street.

  969. Trump says:

    Jeb’s political epitaph should read

    “He listened to loons like Robbie and Corey. So sad!!”

  970. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    I want to see Trump succeed. That said, the campaign is over. What works in a campaign doesn’t always work when it comes to governing. Obama tried to govern as he campaigned and his presidency was mired with low approval for most of the time.

    Axios, the new venture started by Mike Allen, reports today Trump is reaching out to past White House advisors for advice and a shakeup of staff may be coming. If true, I think it’s positive news because it suggests Trump realizes what he’s done the first few weeks hasn’t worked well.

    Democrats are on the ropes, a 60 seat Senate majority is conceivable, and Independents are drifting to the right. If he stops tripping over himself, he can really expand the party in a huge way. I think at least 55% of the country is ready to support him. Toning down the act will help make that likelier.

  971. BayernFan says:

    they are meeting with Trump in order to sell him on the idea of a carbon tax. Not. Gonna. Happen.

  972. Tina says:

    There is a piece from craig jarrett showinf the president on solid ground regarding who comes intomthe country. I cannot find the link at the moment.

  973. Tina says:

    I give sime credi

  974. BayernFan says:

    Trump is over 50% in Reuters now. 53% with Ras.

  975. Trump says:

    Prime example of stupidity in 1003.

    Shut up and go away, hater.

  976. Tina says:

    Sorry, give some credit to ryan. However, with respect to the cabinet confirmations, it hie needs to tow the line.

    He is failing.

  977. Mr.Vito says:

    “What works in a campaign doesn’t always work when it comes to governing. Obama tried to govern as he campaigned and his presidency was mired with low approval for most of the time.”

    Obama campaigned on Hope and Change.

    He then said “I won. Elections have consequences.”

    Your statement is simply not factually based.

  978. Trump says:

    Get it in your head, moron. Expanding the GOP is not trump’s concern, in case you slept through the last 2 years.

  979. Trump says:

    Trump would love to have his presidency mired in low approval like obama’s.

    Easy re-election.

  980. Mr.Vito says:

    I just Googled “tried to govern as he campaigned” though and see it’s a talking point.

    I suggest you sit in the terminal in Kentucky and just listen to the passengers.

  981. Wes says:

    Vito, I was never shy about saying I thought Trump would lose. Even so, I relayed on here many times the things I was hearing from people across Eastern NC indicating deep enthusiasm for him.

    What really did it for me was when I was talking to a contractor who during an unrelated discussion told me of his disdain for Obama’s regulatory policies and his liking what Trump was saying. Smalll business owners and managers are the kinds of people Trump needed to side with him to win since they felt smothered by what the Democrats were saying and doing.

    I came on here and said Trump would win by at least Romney’s margin in NC because Trump was connecting while Hillary wasn’t. MD, Corey, and Robbie all disdained what I was saying, telling me Hillary was almost certain to carry this state.

    What I didn’t do was extrapolate what I was seeing on the ground in NC to other places. I expected Trump to pick up only OH, IA, And FL from Obama states. I never imagined PA, MI, and of course WI would also fall in line.

    In the end, I should have just gone fullbore on saying Trump would get all his potential voters to the polls in every needed state. Hindsight is 20/20 as the cliche goes, but I at least take solace in knowing unlike many virulent NeverTrumpers, Hillary was incapable of winning in the landslide predicted by those most vehemently opposed to the Donald.

  982. Trump says:

    Robbie is great at regurgitating DNC talking points.

    Some obscure website mentions something, and Robbie’s confirmation bias kicks into high gear.

  983. Tina says:

    Dnc talking points are old. Poster has been wrong since 2008. Brokered convention, etc. just 2.111 the posts.

  984. Tina says:

    Msm lie

    Senator Elizabeth Warren was Silenced for Her Disgusting Attack on Senator Jeff Sessions — Not for Reading Coretta Scott King …

    They are making trump lok better and better by the day, so dishonest.

    Spicer can easily knock these lies out of the park.

  985. Wes says:

    Actually expanding the GOP is a necessity for Trump if wants to win reelection.

    The circumstances he won under–a divisive incumbent of the opposite party and a flawed, corrupt elitist personally and flagrantly responsible via negligence for a foreign policy disaster–won’t be in place in 2020.

    Also, Trump carried several key states by the slenderest of margins. Relying on a narrow electoral coalition for anothher victory given the perfect storm of circumstances Trump enjoyed to win last year is at best a dicey prospect.

    Only Wilson and Obama won reelection to second terms while hemorrhaging support, and their lackluster victories set up defeats in their final four years in office. Trump would be wise not to rest on his 2016 laurels especially since he has much less margin for error in 2020 than Wilson and Obama had in 1916 and 2012 respectively.

    So far I think he’s preparing well for a reelection bid. Listening to those who say he can simply replicate 2016 by rote is a sure path to defeat.

  986. Wes says:

    Liz Warren violated the Senate rule governing discussion of members on the floor of the Senate. McConnell was right to shut her down.

  987. Bitterlaw says:

    65 degrees today. 6 inches of snow tomorrow. I love Pennsylvania weather. No constant warm weather for the weak.

  988. Trump says:

    Trump will win re-election if he delivers on his promises.

    If that expands the GOP, good. It’s not his focus.

    If Trump doesn’t succeed, the GOP has more to lose than Trump. Trump will go home, GOP will have some dem loon as president. Perhaps even Al Franken.

  989. Trump says:

    Trump’s support comes from the lower middle class and middle class.

    If he loses these, he will not win re-election, regardless of where else he picks up support.

  990. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “they are meeting with Trump in order to sell him on the idea of a carbon tax. Not. Gonna. Happen.”

    A carbon tax is how very rich people and corporations can act like Al Gore and De Caprio, knowing the poor and working class will be the ones who end up paying for it in higher utility costs and other higher expenses.

    Romney lost the election because he would not connect with the working class, and his support of a carbon tax is an example of this disconnect.

  991. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1003. “I think at least 55% of the country is ready to support him. Toning down the act will help make that likelier.”

    Rasmussen already has him at 53%. Am not sure toning it down will help him; a lot of people like that he is on the cutting edge. Believe Trump’s focus is on pushing through his agenda; his political future will be based on whether it works or not.

    He was elected despite being brash. There has been almost daily outrage from leftists for two years at Trump; their very existence now seems based on waiting for the next thing Trump says that they can be outraged at.

  992. Walt says:

    Up at 5:15 a.m.

    Did my contracted job

    Finished at 12:53 p.m

    Offto get some lunch and then plan a nap.

  993. BayernFan says:

    Good government = Good politics. If Trump delivers, he and the GOP will be rewarded by the voters.

    As for expanding the GOP, I expect him to make a play for urban AAs. He can level with that community as no other politician of either party can.

  994. NYCmike says:

    “Your statement is simply not factually based.”

    -Mr. Vito,

    Robbie said the same thing the other day about Obama’s style of campaigning and governing being the same. I called B.S. the other day, but then he just repeats it again today.

    He simply refuses to take some time to listen to others besides the MSM people he loves.

  995. NYCmike says:

    “they are meeting with Trump in order to sell him on the idea of a carbon tax. Not. Gonna. Happen.”

    -I posted that link above. I hope you are correct and he talks with them, then sends them packing.

    My one worry was seeing the name “Rex Tillerson” included in the story as a proponent while he was head of ExxonMobil. Again, I hope that was just a matter of his place of employment as opposed to an ideological belief.

  996. NYCmike says:

    If Trump tones his “act” down, he will wither away and die on the vine.

    It is not an “act”. He is an in-your-face, whining-until-he-wins, NYC-born-and-bred jackass.

    I should know one when I see one……..hey, wait a minute…..!

  997. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    February 8, 2017 at 12:08 pm
    “What works in a campaign doesn’t always work when it comes to governing. Obama tried to govern as he campaigned and his presidency was mired with low approval for most of the time.”
    Obama campaigned on Hope and Change.
    He then said “I won. Elections have consequences.”
    Your statement is simply not factually based.

    – Obama’s campaign was based on exciting liberal elites and the so-called “coalition of the ascendant”. In other words, Hispanics and Blacks. His policy and messaging were geared towards stoking those demographics. As a result, he lost rural America and the white vote drifted even more Republican. So yes, he attempted govern as he campaigned and it did not work.

  998. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    February 8, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    Dnc talking points are old. Poster has been wrong since 2008. Brokered convention, etc. just 2.111 the posts.

    – Congrats, no major spelling issues.

    As for my track record, I BLEW IT in 2016. There’s no doubt about it. I looked at the national polls (which were right by the way) and didn’t see how Trump could overcome a three point national deficit. The state polls in the battleground states, while close all offered a similar take. Clinton was likely to win.

    In 2006 though, I was ridiculed here for suggesting Republicans were going to be beaten badly.

    In 2008, I was ridiculed for saying in March of that year Obama was going to win soundly while the House and Senate looked awful.

    In 2010, I predicted a 45 seat House gain, but took loads of grief from you for writing I didn’t think Angle or Buck would win. I did however overrate the chances of Carly Fiorina and Dino Rossi.

    In 2012, I was attacked daily for suggesting Romney was likely to come up just short.

    In July 2014 I wrote Republicans were in prime position to win 9 seats in the Senate although I ultimately went with a 7 seat pickup believing Tillis and Roberts would come up just short.

    Finally, my track record is like most. Plenty of it’s good, but some of it’s bad. That said, I’ll stack my track record up against yours any time.

  999. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1028. “I hope that was just a matter of his place of employment as opposed to an ideological belief.”

    Believe it was, Exxon at the time was subject to a witch hunt. Plus Obama/Hillary were pushing ruinous policies regarding oil and gas. He spoke in favor of a policy that would do the least harm.

  1000. Robbie says:

    1018 Wes

    I agree with your sentiment Trump needs to expand the party to win in 2020. I look at what Teresa May has done in Great Britain. Rather than double down on the Tory base, she has moved to capitalize on Corbyn’s lunacy by seizing the center, blue class voters who once formed the backbone of Labour. And now, polling shows the Tory party will be able to expand their majorities even more.

    I’m not suggesting Trump should become a centrist. Far from it. His blue collar base is going to be with him no matter what. But the area where he really underperformed (the Republican leaning suburbs) is still open to him. I suspect if he governs well and reasonably, apprehensive suburbanites will resume voting for him in 2020. They didn’t abandon Republican House candidates so it was more about Trump personally than policy.

    This is why I feel Trump’s making a mistake doubling down on campaign style tactics. It senselessly keeps the Republican leaning suburban voters he needs for 2020 at arm’s length.

  1001. Robbie says:


    I’m just not impressed with Rasmussen as a sole validator of where Trump stands. Use it in average of polls if you like, but the average has him at 44%. Maybe that understates his position by a few points, but even if it’s 47%-48% that’s still very low for a three week old presidency. My view is his low approval is due mostly to self inflicted wounds. In other words, if he stops tripping over himself, the numbers will rise on their own.

  1002. Mr.Vito says:

    “Obama’s campaign was based on exciting liberal elites and the so-called “coalition of the ascendant”. In other words, Hispanics and Blacks.”

    That is certainly not how he campaigned. He campaigned as a post-racial pragmatist… and he governed like a liberal radical,which we said he would because we knew it was all disguised BS… that is how he cooled wide swaths of people that can’t stand him now. Stop rewriting history.

  1003. Mr.Vito says:

    In 2012 he did switch more to driving up the base, because he could see he had infuriated so many people by revealing his true nature… by 2016, even the blue collar whites no longer allowed themselves to be cast aside for his blatant identity politics.

  1004. Mr.Vito says:

    Sadly they were 4 years too late in switching because they let themselves be fooled by Romney’s gaffes.

  1005. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    I was certainly referring more to 2012 and I should have been clearer about that. In 2008, he could have run on a platform that promoted “kitten crush” videos and still won because no Republican was going to win 2008.

  1006. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1034. I am basing my trust of the polls on the outcome of the 2016 election. Rasmussen was the most accurate. The other pollsters were so far off, and have such a strong bias, that I give them no credibility.

    Trump’s internal polls, whoever did them, informed him that Midwest states were in play; pollsters laughed at this but he proved them wrong.

    You want the dog that can hunt.

  1007. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1039. If I remember correctly, most pollsters did were off on predicting the outcome of the 2014 senate races also.

  1008. Mr.Vito says:

    During the CNN coverage of the election, one of the female analysts says that republican data was telling them Trump was winning Wisconsin and they didn’t believe it.

  1009. Wes says:

    Obama ran a vapid campaign as a postmodern uniter above party politics in 2008. He gave few specifics and won because no Republican had any chance in a year when a sitting GOP President sported a 26% approval rating. To say McCain ever had a remote chance under those circumstances reveals a complete lack of understanding of politics.

    In 2012, Obama ran a divisive, wedge issue-based campaign much like GWB’s in 2004 intent on ginning up the base, dividing the country into those with him and those against him, and scraping by with enough votes to win. As with Bush in 2004, the divide-and-rule strategy adopted by Obama succeeded.

    The cost was the erosion of support among critical groups of voters–seniors and exurban whites principally–who would eagerly turn out in succeeding elections to take the Democrats down.

    2014 was the opening salvo of this. Democrats suffered their worst second midterm defeat since 1918 and suffered obliteration downballot. In 2016, Trump tapped into these voters infuriated by Obama and Hillary and scored numerous upsets while maintaining Republican power in Congress and the states. I just hope Trump doesn’t repeat Bush’s and Obama’s mistakes in a few years.

  1010. DW says:

    Local Virginia news:

    BAD: Idiotic prison system releases a convicted sex offender.

    WORSE: He was supposed to check in with local law enforcement in TX when he voluntarily arrived there.

    EVEN WORSE: He never showed up and is now considered at large and a danger to society.

    The good news…he had completely covered his face with tattoos making it relatively easy to find him.

  1011. NYCmike says:

    -When i see Obama sitting on a desk with the woman’s legs standing, I think “Look at these women at the beck and call of a man!”.

  1012. JC says:


    In 2014 the polls were off by like 7% nationally. It was one of the worst polled elections in history. The second worst was 2016.

    My personal opinion for why the polls were so undervalued for Trump – and to a lesser extent the rest of the GOP – is because of our liberal dominated media and hollywood. Turn on the tv, and what do you get? Non stop anti-conservative or anti-Trump coverage. Turn on any late night comedian or show, and who’s the butt of every joke? Who always ends up being the bad guys? Who gets branded every day as intolerant, racist, uneducated hicks?

    More importantly, conservatives get targeted for their political beliefs in both business and personal lives. If some owner of a company has a view the left doesn’t like, they get boycotted, smeared, bombarded with fake negative reviews, and have their entire personal lives spread to the public. The left goes after people’s businesses, jobs, and livelihoods. And the media encourages it.

    Remember Ken Boom? This ordinary guy asked Hillary a questioned that the left didn’t like, and he got publicly doxed by the news media. Apparently he viewed porn on his reddit account, and major networks like CNN, NYT, NBC, Gizmodod, and others saw fit to run stories on that, for no other reason than to embarrass him. Anyone who expresses support for Trump gets vilified and personally destroyed by the media.

    The point is, I strongly feel that many people were outright afraid to voice their support of Trump, even to anonymous pollsters. I think Trump’s support is always higher than what the polls will say, especially considering that his policies poll much better than he does.

  1013. Trump says:

    Robbie is a lying piece of cr&apologize. Here’s what he said in 1033: “But the area where he really underperformed (the RepublicN leaning suburbs) is still open to him”

    Here’s the reality: suburban voters

    2004: Bush 52-47
    2012: Romney 50-48
    2016: Trump 49-45

    I don’t see any underperformance.

    His brain is really fried by hate and too much Jeb sucking.

  1014. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1045. I live in a liberal area in California, and agree with you. Know people who voted for Trump but will not discuss it publicly; doubt they would tell a person on the telephone who claims to be a pollster.

  1015. NYCmike says:

    -I may have to vote for the Dems to overturn the Electoral College system in favor of the popular vote. That may be the only way to see Bruce or any of the other acts play for free.

    Because I dang sure am not going to give them my money!

    GFY, Bruce!

  1016. Robbie says:

    An aide handling press relations for Judge Neil Gorsuch confirms he told a Senator today Trump’s tweets about the “so-called judge” were demoralizing and disappointing.

  1017. Mr.Vito says:

    Good. He should continue to stay out of Richard Blumenthal’s traps.

  1018. Trump says:

    Awesome, now Blumenthal will surely vote for him.

  1019. Mr.Vito says:

    Let us worry about this so-called activist judge that erred about the facts of the case and issued an overly broad opinion.

  1020. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m sure it will make all the difference, SG.

  1021. Robbie says:

    Compare the vote totals for Republican Congressmen from suburban areas to the vote totals Trump got in those same districts. Often in suburbs of the bigger cities, Trump underperformed. There’s no way around this fact.

    Trump also, generally, underperformed recent Republican vote tallies in some traditional Republican areas. Texas, Georgia, Arizona, Utah, and a few others are examples. Obviously, Trump made up for that in places like OH, PA, MI, and WI, but the point is this. Those who came on board in the Rust Belt will be there in 2020 while those who stayed away in more traditional Republican areas are still very gettable.

    A competent, well run administration keeps the Rust Belt while recapturing the ones who stayed away. All Trump has to do is dial his act back from 10 to 7 or 8. Attacking judges won’t do that though.

  1022. Tina says:

    DNC Central Casting is back.

  1023. NYCmike says:

    “An aide handling press relations for Judge Neil Gorsuch confirms he told a Senator today Trump’s tweets about the “so-called judge” were demoralizing and disappointing.”


  1024. Tina says:

    An aide said blah blah blah.

    Wnat is the name of said aide. Are there at least two documented sources?


    The issue is the so called judge- the Flub appointee – does not know the constitution. I bet he enjoys his strip clubs and soy lattes.

  1025. Jake says:

    1056. Fake News by CNN. Neil is too smart to say that to a marxist like Blumenthal.

  1026. Jake says:

    Fake News Robbie. Has a nice ring to it.

    Who has the number one position on Jeb’s Speed Dial?

    Robbie or Jerry Seinfled?

  1027. Mr.Vito says:

    “Compare the vote totals for Republican Congressmen from suburban areas to the vote totals Trump got in those same districts.”

    I fail to see how that is a better measure than the one SG provided comparing presidential performances.

  1028. Tina says:

    I am tired of one idiot judge deciding things – whether its Rinosaurus Kennedy, or the ACLU troll.


  1029. Trump says:

    The Jeb moron gets caught lying, and changes the game. First he said, Trump underperformed in suburbs. When I showed he did not, now he says trump underperformed in some traditional republican areas.

    Why don’t you stick to sucking Jeb’s knob? That’s all you are good at.

    without evidence, I can make the claim that Trump dialing up the tweet storms to 15 will net him 435 Ev’s.

    You are nothing but a lying piece of sh$t.

  1030. Jake says:

    Tina, Hotair is saying that Mitch M scolded Warren for a reason besides Etiquette.

    GOP wants her to be the nominee in 2018, and pull a Mondale/McGovern

  1031. Jake says:

    1062. I remember on election Night, Sean Trende of NeverTrump RCP. Said The Donald was underperforming In Indiana, and was a bad sign.

    what a joke

  1032. Mr.Vito says:

    I absolutely believe he pooh poohed the so-called comment to Dick in some way. They wanted to use it as ammunition against the Gorsuch appointment (because… um… liberal logic).

  1033. Tina says:

    Pocahantas or the MN Loon will be the Drat nominee, Jake.

    Book it.

  1034. NYCmike says:

    “GOP wants her to be the nominee in 2018”

    -For which office?

  1035. JC says:

    @1049 Robbie

    “An aide handling press relations for Judge Neil Gorsuch confirms he told a Senator today Trump’s tweets about the “so-called judge” were demoralizing and disappointing.”

    Who’s the aide? What’s his name? How do you know it’s not made up.

    Every single day we see headlines titled, ‘sources’, ‘reports’, and ‘aides’ undermining Trump, with no way of verifying anything.

    As far as I’m concerned, any outlet that claims an ‘anonymous source’ says something damaging about Trump, I automatically deem it as fake news.

  1036. Tina says:

    Yup fake news.

  1037. Mr.Vito says:

    The aide is named… and confirms what Blumenthal said already about the conversation.

  1038. NYCmike says:

    -Does there have to be a HUGE amount of evidence to allow the police (the State) to take property BEFORE a person is found guilty?

    I would like to see how many times the wrong person was targeted, and how long it took to rectify the situation.

    It seems to me that it should not be legal.

  1039. Tina says:

    Great have to wait for obumblercares repeal. It ain’t going to be repealed by Ryan, Mitchie, and the clowns.

  1040. Mr.Vito says:

    “Ron Bonjean, who is leading communications for Gorsuch during the confirmation process…”

    was the aide…

    Blumenthal had already given an interview about it… it’s not some leak or something.

  1041. Jake says:

    1067. Sorry Mike, meant 2020

  1042. Jake says:

    Vito, that aide just ruined his career, if this is true.

  1043. Jake says:

    My God, I hope Gorsuch is not another Souter or Roberts

  1044. Robbie says:

    Justice Anthony Kennedy is known to be considering retirement, but he is also known as an elitist. If he decides not to step down during Trump’s term, I bet Trump’s comments about judges will be one of the reasons why.

  1045. Jake says:

    Trump wants Kennedy to retire. Kennedy was a compromise pick by Reagan, after Bork was shot down by a Dem Senate.

    Trump has the senate

  1046. Jake says:

    Laura Ingraham thinks Gorsuch may be a problem

  1047. Robbie says:


    I don’t know if you follow the federal courts, but those of us who do know full well Neil Gorsuch is not another Souter. He’s been on my SCOTUS radar for at least five years. He is the real deal. Simply because Gorsuch stated the obvious, that Trump’s comments on judges have been ridiculous, is not a reason to think he is a Souter.

  1048. Jake says:

    Robbie, Roberts had better Cred’s than Gorsuch, and turned out be a elitist hack supporting Socialized medicine.

    There is no room for error

  1049. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    February 8, 2017 at 5:41 pm
    An aide said blah blah blah.
    Wnat is the name of said aide. Are there at least two documented sources?
    The issue is the so called judge- the Flub appointee – does not know the constitution. I bet he enjoys his strip clubs and soy lattes.

    – Bless your heart. Because you didn’t want to believe Gorsuch’s spokesman confirmed the comments, you just assumed they were false. And now you have egg on your face. You lived up to the first three letters of assume.

  1050. Robbie says:

    Jake says:
    February 8, 2017 at 6:23 pm
    Laura Ingraham thinks Gorsuch may be a problem

    – If she does, then she has flipped her opinion 180 degrees from what she said right after Neil Gorsuch was officially nominated last Tuesday.

    I would encourage you to produce a link to a story suggesting Ingraham thinks Gorsuch is bad, otherwise I think you may have misjudged her comments.

  1051. Jake says:

    1083. Did Tina blow a election like you Robbie?

  1052. Jake says:

    Robbie, try her twitter account

  1053. Phil says:

    Gorsuch is a solid conservative IMO. What, he was supposed to defend Trump’s tantrum?

    Trump has the law on his side on the ban issue. Now if his mouth would just get out of the way….

  1054. Robbie says:


    John Roberts was never viewed as a Scalia clone. He was always more in line with William Rehnquist and that was well known during his nomination in 2005.

  1055. Jake says:

    Phil, but to say it to a uber lefty like Blumenthal? He could not be more clever?

  1056. Robbie says:

    I just love that Jake and Tin Can Tina both declared the story about Gorsuch’s comments to be fake news without even checking beforehand.

  1057. Trump says:

    Trump would be Jeb without his tweets.

  1058. Jake says:

    Do not compare Rheinquist, Robbie. the late Justice was a ardent Pro lifer who never would have backed Obamacare

  1059. CashCow TM says:

    Anti-DJT movement plans women’s strike.

  1060. Jake says:

    Robbie, you are Fake News. your election analysis was awful and embarrassing

  1061. CashCow TM says:

    WV has a $4.2 Billion GR budget.

    FY2018 revenue shortfall estimated to be north of $400 Million.

    WV Gov. Jim Justice to deliver his State of he State address tonight at 7 p.m. to unveil his plan to deal with that.

  1062. Robbie says:


    I just love the fact you declared Gorsuch’s comments were fake news only to be proven wrong instantly. You fit in well with Trumpland.

    On top of that, you’re showing you’re rank ignorance about the judicial nominating process to assume maneuvering in a private meeting somehow means Gorsuch is somehow a Souter.

    Funnier still is that you think a random tweet from Laura Ingraham means Gorsuch is a fraud.

    Laura Ingraham ?@IngrahamAngle 36m
    36 minutes ago

    Judge Gorsuch’s comments abt @realdonaldTrump’s tweets are concerning. Judges Pryor or Hardiman know better. Doesn’t bode well

    Let’s be clear. Ingraham is peeved about Gorsuch’s PR stance, not his judicial philosophy.

  1063. Robbie says:

    Jake is becoming a male version of Tina.

    Yes, Rehnquist voted against Roe in 1972, but where’s the evidence Roberts isn’t pro-life or wouldn’t vote to overturn Roe if it came up again? There’s none. In fact, he has voted to uphold stricter abortion requirements.

    None of that however diminishes the comparison between Rehnquist and Roberts. Rehnquist did not favor the approach of Scalia and Thomas. He was an institutionalist as Roberts is. He was never going to be an originalist vote. You are showing a lack of knowledge on this topic.

  1064. Tina says:

    i only get my news from Fox opinion or the GP site. The rest is just crappola.

  1065. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “An aide handling press relations for Judge Neil Gorsuch confirms he told a Senator today Trump’s tweets about the “so-called judge” were demoralizing and disappointing.”

    Agree with the statement, and have no problem with Gorsuch if he said it. Trump when over the top to refer to a federal judge as a “so called judge.” Even when he disagrees, he needs to respect the judicial branch.

    The fact that Grosuch is willing to stand on principal says to me he will be a good judge, and not cave on sensitive issues.

  1066. Tina says:

    We have no margin for error with Gorsuch. I do not think he is as conservative as Scalia or Thomas. I do not think he is Kennedy.

    If Flubs brother or somebody named Bush were picking, we would be screwed.

  1067. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    John Roberts was a more politically attuned judge, and never would have criticized the president who appointed him. Unfortunately, his political sensitivities influenced his decisions.

  1068. Tina says:

    But does the soy latte judge respect the Executive Branch.

    I have no problems with referring to a judge as a so called judge or activist judge.

    Just wait to see how enlightening the 9th Circus Court of Appeals is tomorrow.

  1069. Tina says:

    Video was made of Ms. King was taken in 2000.

    Major Phuq up by Pocahantaas and the Libtards.

  1070. Tina says:

    Will Fake news report the 2000 video?

  1071. Robbie says:

    Neil Gorsuch smartly maneuvered himself to gain some goodwill with Democrats. Even if he doesn’t get their support, it may be enough to stave off a filibuster.

    The question I want to see answered is this. What does Trump sister, a judge, think of his over the top comments?

    Trump’s no longer the host of the Apprentice. It’s time to put that persona in the rearview mirror.

  1072. Trump says:

    Says the Jeb fuc$tard.

    And how wrong have been, as-wipe?

  1073. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Those red-necked bigots, the Europeans, support Trump’s position on immigration. Its time for the leftist press to roundly condemn them, they are deplorable.

    ” . . . (a poll of). . more than 10,000 people from 10 European states, we can throw new light on what people think about migration from mainly Muslim countries. Our results are striking and sobering. They suggest that public opposition to any further migration from predominantly Muslim states is by no means confined to Trump’s electorate in the US but is fairly widespread.

    In our survey, carried out before President Trump’s executive order was announced, respondents were given the following statement: ‘All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped’. They were then asked to what extent did they agree or disagree with this statement. Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55% agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25% neither agreed nor disagreed and 20% disagreed.

    Majorities in all but two of the ten states agreed, ranging from 71% in Poland, 65% in Austria, 53% in Germany and 51% in Italy to 47% in the United Kingdom and 41% in Spain. In no country did the percentage that disagreed surpass 32%.”

  1074. Trump says:

    Every trump supporter thinks that judges have screwed the country.

    That is why trump wins.

  1075. Trump says:

    Can we have the obligatory, “this is the beginning of the end of Trump.”

    Just for old times’ sakes.

  1076. Trump says:

    Gorsuch said it was demoralizing. He didn’t say it was wrong.

  1077. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1107. It is a free country, Trump is entitled to express an opinion of a judge.

    Gorsuch has the right to give his opinion of Trump’s comment as well. Agree that the comment will likely help in his confirmation vote — and might help avoid a filibuster.

    Things seem to work out for deplorable people; they may be why Europeans want to align with them.

  1078. Trump says:

    Has Gorsuch confirmed that he said disheartening and demoralizing?

  1079. Trump says:

    I am sure he was referring to his meeting with Blumenthal.

  1080. NYCmike says:

    “Neil Gorsuch smartly maneuvered himself to gain some goodwill with Democrats.”

    -Or, maybe his aide just gave an honest answer?

  1081. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, in the real world, Sessions confirmed as AG.

    Hillarys’s jail cell is being prepped.

  1082. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    When the Ringling Brothers circus shut down, it seemed we were losing a good source of entertainment. But now we have Trump, and each day is like a circus. It is entertainment to read the daily expressions of leftist rage.

    It beats the dull, self-righteous metrosexual who was running things prior Trump. An imagine what it would be like if Jeb Bush won — excruciating boredom. Everyday day would have been like a root canal. Were so lucky.

  1083. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 8, 2017 at 7:36 pm
    “Neil Gorsuch smartly maneuvered himself to gain some goodwill with Democrats.”

    -Or, maybe his aide just gave an honest answer?

    Yes, I agree it was certainly an honest answer, but it also had the added benefit of creating some goodwill for Democrats looking to step back from the filibuster fight.

  1084. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Believe several of Trump’s nominees have disagreed with him on issues during their confirmation hearings. It is possible Trump has told them they may speak their minds; a good business leader does not want yes men.

  1085. Mr.Vito says:

    It is not going to create any good will. It was simply a trap that he adroitly avoided.

  1086. Robbie says:

    As for John Roberts, some here need to realize there’s a reason he got 78 votes to confirm him for the Chief Justice position. There’s also a reason Sam Alito got just 54 votes a few months later.

    Roberts was a clerk for Justice Rehnquist and Judge Friendly. Both were highly regarded, but both also practiced a view of the law that was modest and restrained. Roberts has followed in their footsteps. None of the sharp legal minds in 2005 suggested he was anything close to Scalia and Thomas.

  1087. lisab says:

    “Let’s be fair though. He was right that Bush would prove to be a mediocre candidate.”

    in no way was JEB a mediocre candidate

    as you can see from this clip

  1088. Trump says:

    Roberts got 76 because they knew he would ram Obamacare through by twisting the definition of tax.

  1089. Robbie says:

    If Republicans of every stripe embrace Trump’s strategy to fight every fight on every front, it will end badly.

  1090. Tina says:

    Yup, good will. The drats will try to filibuster.

  1091. Trump says:

    Dems realized Roberts was a cocktail circuit judge.

  1092. Robbie says:

    Yes, Roberts got 78 votes in 2005 because the Democrats knew 7 years later he would call a fee a tax in order to save a healthcare bill no one had any idea would exist.

  1093. Tina says:

    Should have wrote stilk try to filibuster.

  1094. Trump says:

    Why do you keep making predictions, as-wipe?

    Are you really stupid, or do you just play one on the Internet?

  1095. lisab says:

    ““they are meeting with Trump in order to sell him on the idea of a carbon tax. Not. Gonna. Happen.”

    lisab’s carbon credits are still available

    you can trust me, i’m not like those other guys that fly around the world on private jets to visit global warming conferences

  1096. Trump says:

    Is this the end of Trump?

    He will never get the nomination?

  1097. Tina says:

    Yes, sessions is finalky confirmed. Best pick of the cabinet imo.

    Now, go arress her thighness and shut diwn the clintune foundation.

  1098. CashCow TM says:

    Yesterday Villanova beat Georgetown Hoyas in Bassetball.

    Dave W should be sober by now from his after game celebration, so we should be getting a new thread sometime soon…

  1099. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Manchin voted for Sessions. This is not a vote the Democrats will forgive him for. Have a feeling the Republicans may have 53 seats in the Senate later this year.

  1100. Mr.Vito says:

    Who cares whether you get 76 votes or 54?

    I could get 100 by bribing everyone… is that a good thing?

  1101. Mr.Vito says:

    If you get cloture, you’ve succeeded.

  1102. lisab says:

    one of the key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace, good people don’t go into government.

    taylor swift

  1103. lisab says:

    i like thinking big. if you’re going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.

    taylor swift

  1104. Phil says:

    Trump expressing his views on the judge’s ruling is fine. The law is clear and Trump was 100% within his rights to issue that order. Legally, it’s not even a close call. My only problem is with his tactics of going after the “so called judge” Why do that and take the focus away from the crap ruling and the issue? He’ll get another political ruling tomorrow from the nutty 9th circuit. I hope he criticizes the ruling as he should – just don’t get personal with the judges. That only gives the left the opportunity to make it about Trump. That’s what the left wants.

    Appeal it to the Supreme Court and win there. In five or six wks he will have his 5-4 majority.

    Outside of Trump’s strange hesitance to criticize Putin, I like every policy change Trump has made. Get a better press secretary (they can’t all be as good as Dana Perino), cut back on some of the ranting on twitter, and keep moving forward. On policy, he is on the right track.

  1105. Walt says:

    Well, I watched WV governor Justice’s State of the State address on how to find $400+ million and lift up WV.

    Give him an A on his folksy delivery.
    He sounded a lot like an R in lot of ways (except tx increases).

    On education:
    –2% pay raise for all classroom teachers
    –throw out WV’s (common core based) Smarter Balance state testing
    –replace Smarter Balance with ACT tests
    –Scrap the recently implemented state “A to F” rating system on every school in WV
    –cut out RESAs
    –cut public broadcasting
    –cut WVU and Marshall University funding by 1% or 2%
    [$490 million in tax increases]
    –increase WV 6% sales tax by 1/2 cent
    –raise DMV fees (by $20?)
    –raise tolls on WV turnpike
    –put tolls on other roads in WV
    –increase state gas tax by 33% (10 cents a gal.)
    –come sort of fuzzy ‘commercialization tax’ [which I think taxes coal and maybe NatGas based on it’s price, so as the companies selling make higher profits the severance tax floats up…]

    on cutting current government spending and –finding squirreled away money in all agencies

    use the increased revenue from increased gas tax and increased DMV fees as funding source to go to wall street to leverage and secure a multi-billion dollar, multi year bond. [constitutionally requires the proposal to be taken to people for ratification]

    BIG road and bridge building/replacement/repair statewide to improve infrastructure

    Substance of his speech….mixed bag on the score.

    I think some of his tax ideas are DOA in the legislature.

  1106. lisab says:

    my ultimate goal is to end up being happy. most of the time.

    taylor swift

  1107. Phil says:

    So Manchin was the one Democrat to vote for Sessions.

    What a fake. Hey look, reelect me. I’m a conservative Democrat. Sure you are, Joe. Schumer gave his permission to break ranks on a vote Democrats didn’t need to fool all the rubes in WV – just like he always does.

  1108. justsayin says:

    Could someone become a moderator for Dave’s site. Since he no longer cares about it. Or at least let someone be able to make new threads.

  1109. Robbie says:

    I certainly have no problems with a president objecting respectively to the rulings of a judge, an appeals court, or the Supreme Court.

    I have a real problem when a president personally attacks or intimidates judges. Obama did that to the SCOTUS at the 2010 State of the Union and Trump has done that with Judge Curiel and with his “so-called judge” tweet. He should know better than this. His sister is a federal appeals court judge for goodness sake.

  1110. CashCow TM says:


    le tax us more
    El tax us more
    lax ruse tome
    extra mouse L
    some extra UL

  1111. Robbie says:

    The amount of mocking Laura Ingraham is taking on Twitter for her stupid tweets about Neil Gorsuch genuinely makes me smile. She is a clown without the red nose.

  1112. Trump says:

    Robbie thinks someone is a clown?

    Are you looking in the mirror, twerp?

  1113. Trump says:

    Trump should be calling each justice out by name. They are not some high priest immune from ridicule.

  1114. Trump says:

    These justices get a lifetime appointment, snd they think they are god.

  1115. Trump says:

    Have you read some of the opinions from these judges?

    Soot air, Kagan, Breyer, Kennedy? They don’t even pretend to follow any law.

  1116. wvally says:

    He should know better than this.


    Philosophically speaking, sure. Practically speaking…what else would you expect?

  1117. lisab says:

    Abortions Are At Their Lowest Point In 45 Years Yet Most Republicans Want To Eliminate The Cause Of The Drop – Birth Control

  1118. Tina says:

    Can we trust kennedy and roberts to rule. They appear to be open border proponents.

  1119. Phil says:


    If you are referring to the appeal on the travel ban then no. Unfortunately, we don’t have any choice.

  1120. Tina says:

    Phil, maybe one of them votes corectly, the other one won’t

  1121. jason says:

    NYC’s “constitutional expert” and hero just called Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared “liberal Democrats”.

  1122. Phil says:

    Yeah, one or the other has screwed us plenty of times.

  1123. jason says:

    I thought Trump said Gorsuch would be independent minded….

    Well, he is…

  1124. Tina says:

    Is that mark lievine. Take the aussie refugees because australia is an ally.

    Australlia wont take them.

  1125. Tina says:

    Kennedy loves the DC cocktail parties,

  1126. Tina says:

    Look for one or both to screw us.

  1127. PresidentPaul! says:

    Thief takes UC Berkeley GOP signup list (much like they try to get a hold of Milo attendees lists) to academically target conservative college students who somehow slipped pass the admissions committees in the first place.

    It’s pretty clear that conservative thought is not welcome at in the classroom or even on the University in general.

    Yet we continue to fund L&S departments with federal funding and fund student debt bubble for L&S degrees.

  1128. Mr.Vito says:

    President Donald Trump’s executive order barring refugees and citizens from seven majority-Muslim countries from entering the US is one of his most popular so far, according to a new poll from Morning Consult and Politico.

    The order has a 55% approval rating (with 35% saying they “strongly approve”) with only 38% of voters polled saying they disapprove of it.

    New thread, Dave!!

  1129. Mr.Vito says:

    According to them, all his executive orders are favored…

  1130. PresidentPaul! says:

    Funding L&S departments and loans with federal dollars is like of funneling federal dollars into the FLDS churches and then demanding no one complain about it.

  1131. lisab says:

    A Californian woman divorced her husband of 22 years because he voted for Donald Trump

  1132. Robbie says:

    One story I didn’t believe for a second today was the Huffington Post’s claim Trump called General Flynn at 3AM to ask him about strong dollar policy. I don’t have the best view of Trump, but this sounds like crap to me.

  1133. Trump says:

    Why don’t you believe it? Is it any more fake than any other “news”?

    Jeb coc$sucker.

  1134. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1154. Cow. In France cows get jazzed.

  1135. NYCmike says:

    Ivanka and Jared might be “liberal Democrats”?


    There names were not on the ballot, same as #NeverHillary, so I am ok.

  1136. NYCmike says:

    “A Californian woman divorced her husband of 22 years because he voted for Donald Trump”

    -If you see a picture of the woman, the man made the best vote in the history of suffrage.

  1137. NYCmike says:


    I hope everyone got their bread and milk!

  1138. Bitterlaw says:

    As an attorney, I do not like Trump’s disdain for judges that rule against him (or might). Is it really that hard to just say, “L disagree with the ruling and will file an appeal.”?

  1139. CashCow TM says:

    Walt has to be up before 6:30 tomorrow to go work at another school.
    Gotta be there by 7:30.
    Unless the snow causes a 2 hour delay…

    His alarm clocks wakes me up, too.
    But he says he does not care.
    Sours my milk, and gives me gas.

  1140. Bitterlaw says:

    1124 Trump moron said Roberts was confirmed with Dem votes because they knew he would approve Obamacare when he was confirmed in 2005? Damn. That is foresight since Obama wasn’t even a Senator yet.

  1141. Mr.Vito says:

    I think judges with lifetime appointments that legislate from the bench should receive as harsh of criticism or more than the bums we can vote out.

  1142. PresidentPaul! says:

    I don’t see why that judges opinion matters.

    The executive has coequal rights to constitutional interpretation. He should go with his legal team’s interpretation not the activist judge.

  1143. Mr.Vito says:

    “I don’t see why that judges opinion matters.

    The executive has coequal rights to constitutional interpretation. He should go with his legal team’s interpretation not the activist judge.”

    Because only the President can apparently create a constitutional crisis… judges get a free pass.

  1144. lisab says:

    NCAA ‘on the brink’ of blackballing North Carolina over HB2 till 2022

  1145. lisab says:

    Last week, educators in Rochester, New York, officially joined the resistance against bigotry, hatred, ignorance, and basically everything that is the Trump agenda by declaring Feb. 17 as a district-wide day that Black Lives Matter will be observed in schools. Officially titled “Black Lives Matter at School: A Day of Understanding and Affirmation,” the purpose of the day is to highlight the value of black lives and acknowledge the impact of historical experiences of black people in the U.S. who have consistently been denied freedom and human rights.

  1146. lisab says:

    Philadelphia ice cream shop rolls out ImPeach Sundae

  1147. lisab says:

    devos pledges to burn down all schools in minority districts

  1148. lisab says:

    Consider this MY warning: We won’t be silent. We will speak out. And we WILL persist.And you better believe every Senator who voted to put Jeff Sessions’s radical hatred into @TheJusticeDept will hear from all of us, too.

    If Jeff Sessions makes even the tiniest attempt to bring his racism, sexism & bigotry into @TheJusticeDept, he’ll hear from all of us.If Jeff Sessions turns a blind eye while @realDonaldTrump violates the Constitution or breaks the law, he’ll hear from all of us.

    I will not be silent while the Republicans rubber stamp an AG who will never stand up to the @POTUS when he breaks the law.

  1149. lisab says:

    Chelsea Clinton ?@ChelseaClinton 9h9 hours ago

    Chelsea Clinton Retweeted CFDA
    Thank you @CFDA & New York Fashion Week for using your voices to support Planned Parenthood

  1150. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1174. “I hope everyone got their bread and milk!

    This is way Trump needs to continue to use twitter. This video was of a leftist who could not handle that Trump did not tweet that day and allow him to become outraged.

  1151. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1185. lisab, sorry, but I have to tell you that I think charter schools are the future of education in the U.S.

    In San Diego, the charter school I have been affiliated with and support reserved a large number of its spaces for children from underprivileged neighborhoods, from a variety of demographic backgrounds. There are charter schools in Latino neighborhoods that are amount the best schools in the city.

  1152. lisab says:

    the results of charter schools are mixed.

    even where they have done well, to some extent it is because they can kick out students and accept only those they wish to take.

    in many cases they have not done well, like in detroit.

    nevertheless, personally i am not necessarily against charter schools so long as they are secular. i myself am montessori trained, so i actually have no problem with alternative education.

  1153. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t see why that judges opinion matters.

    Bunu’s proud declaration of ignorance of the Constitution is breathtaking.

  1154. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree that Judges should be criticized but I do not agree with calling them “so-called” judges. They are judges whether you like it or not. Trust me. There are many judges with whom I disagree but the legal system only works if we respect the process.

  1155. NYCmike says:

    I am more bothered by Trump’s tweet about Ivanka’s business than about the judge.

    If she wants to run a business, stay out of the West Wing, and go out there and run your business. Same to Kushner, same to Trump.

  1156. Robbie says:

    It’s a day that ends in “y” so of course Trump is acting like a fool on Twitter. So far, he has attacked McCain for exercising his oversight duties as chair of the Armed Services Committee and questioned whether Neil Gorsuch actually objected to Trump’s judge comments. If this keeps up, who’s to say Trump won’t revoke Gorsuch’s nomination?

    I hoped Trump would handle the presidency in a serious way. It looks like I was wrong, unfortunately, Trump’s actions make me question his mental stability. He seems incapable of ignoring any slight, real or perceived, made against him. Either those around him will convince Trump to ignore the outside noise, or his presidency will collapse.

    25th Amendment?

  1157. Trump says:

    Another day, another meaningless rant from the Jeb coc$sucker.

  1158. Trump says:

    Has Gorsuch confirmed that he used the words “demoralizing” or “disheartening”?

  1159. BayernFan says:

    1173……. #MAGA

  1160. Trump says:

    No, because he did not. It was Dick Blumenthal who did.

    Here’s the correction from CBS Nwews:

    “An earlier version of this story said that during a meeting with Sen. Richard Blumenthal Wednesday, Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch had called the president’s remarks about the judiciary “disheartening and abhorrent”. Further reporting by CBS News’ Margaret Brennan indicated that it was Blumenthal who used these words, and Gorsuch reportedly agreed that it was disheartening, though he did not use the word “abhorrent.”

    Robbie the Jeb coc$sucker pushing fake news. No surprise.

  1161. Phil says:

    CBS – the network of Dan Rather – strikes again.

  1162. Trump says:

    The Jeb sycophant has been predicting the collapse of Trump for two years.

    Get a new shtick, as-hole. You sound like a retard with no cognitive ability.

  1163. Bitterlaw says:


  1164. Trump says:

    Remember this Jeb fuc$tard mentioning a source on the team “confirming” Gorsuch?

    Here’s what CBS says now:

    “A source on the Supreme Court nomination team said the two talked about Mr Trump’s recent attacks on the judiciary. Blumenthal feels disheartened by what the president has said about several judges, and thinks the attacks are abhorrent.”

    What could be better than Blumenthal being disheartened and demoralized? More please.

  1165. Trump says:

    Blumenthal was the as-shat who lied about his Vietnam service.

    No wonder Robbi the Jeb sucker loves him.

  1166. Bitterlaw says:

    I would respect Gorsuch even more if he did say that Trump’s criticism of the judge was disappointing or disheartening.

  1167. Trump says:

    Gorsuch should agree that Trump’s remarks were accurate.

  1168. Mr.Vito says:

    “…the legal system only works if we respect the process.”

    We can only respect the process if the legal system works.

  1169. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie… it has to be time for you to consider waiting three or more days before talking about anything Trump does with any conclusiveness. Good Lord… they are walking back the Blumenthal story now??

    The media has totally beclowned themselves.

  1170. Bitterlaw says:

    We can only respect the process if the legal system works.

    It generally works so give it general respect.

  1171. Mr.Vito says:

    When it doesn’t work situationally it will get a lack of respect situationally.

  1172. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – In this particular situation, GFY.

  1173. Mr.Vito says:

    That would be the difference between so-called judge and so-called justice system.

    Not that I would use those words.

  1174. Mr.Vito says:

    GFY generally. LOL.

  1175. Mr.Vito says:

    Any interesting cases lately?

    Did you see where that lady got her arm caught in the donation bin??

  1176. BayernFan says:

    When judges get it abhorrently wrong they deserve to be called out and mocked. They’re not gods.

  1177. Corey says:

    In addition to Ron Bonjean’s confirmation yesterday, multiple Senators of both parties, as well as a written statement released by Kelly Ayotte on behalf of Judge Gorsuch have confirmed Gorsuch’s use of the words “disappointing” and “demoralizing” in his meetings with Senators.

  1178. CG says:

    I concur.

  1179. Jake says:

    Corey, maybe you should care more about Rauner, and Chris Kennedy.

    Do you really care about what a Senator who lied about Vietnam said?

    As far as we know, Ayotte told him to say that, to make the Confirmation much easier.

  1180. Jake says:

    I mean, the GOP is getting killed in IL, because moderates try to play the Chicago Media must like me game.

    Kirk and Dold ran to the left and still lost

  1181. Jake says:

    Thank God, Conservatives in Downstate Illinois came out big for Trump. By doing so, we gained State Rep seats that helped our Governor maintain his veto. Otherwise Taxes would be thru the roof.

    The Chicago suburbs and RINO women went big for Hillary

  1182. CG says:

    JT, what am I supposed to care about? We will see if Kennedy gets thru a primary. JB Pritzker has a lot more money and might had an edge. There could also be a Cook County split in the primary if Kennedy and Pritzker both run.

    Kirk and Dold did better in 2016 than Trump did there, so your recipe JT, may be a bad one.

    Far more people than Blumenthal have confirmed what Gorsuch has said, including Gorsuch himself. He was right.

    Who did more for America during the Vietnam War? Trump or Blumenthal?

    Easily Blumenthal, but McCain did more than both of them, and Trump is attacking his patriotism on Twitter today too.

  1183. Bitterlaw says:

    Softball bats to the head could be used to prevent this kind of behavior.

  1184. Robbie says:

    Robert Costa was on Morning Joe today and said his sources close to Trump tell him Trump intends to amply his fights and attacks on the judiciary, fellow republicans, and corporations.

    This is genuinely insane and it’s wonderful way for Trump to see his approval ratings drop into the 30’s, see Democrats win back the House in 2018, and earn himself and impeachment from a democrat House.

    Apparently, Trump still thinks he’s the host of The Apprentice trying to win a war of words with the NYC tabloids.

  1185. Jake says:

    As long as Trump runs against the Media, he will be re-elected.

    Emerson college polling proves that.

    I need to stop jarring with NeverTrumpers like Corey and Robbie. Waste of time

  1186. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I saw that case. Bad way to die.

  1187. Jake says:

    Who is JT? You have said that before. I scanned this site on election night, and realized you were a Chicago area RINO. You were acting like a fool Corey. A embarrassment.

    At least Robbie seems to have accepted Trump and his ability to appoint good Judges

  1188. CG says:

    You are quite clearly the poster from the Chicago area who used to post as Jason T. and later as JT. I don’t care if you want to be Jake now, but you should admit it. We have communicated on here many times going back several years.

    Nobody else had the peculiar capitalization habits that he did and that you also demonstrate.

  1189. Jake says:

    1222. Robbie, you forgot the Senate. GOP will hold that. I live near the Wisconsin border in IL.

    Most I see or know, thinks this Judge in Washington state is a pissant, who has no authority.

    Trump called the elitist hack out, so what. He won the election that way.

    People want a wall and good judges, Tax cuts, repeal. Not worried about what RINO’s think

  1190. Jake says:

    Corey , you are now CG. what are you afraid of?

    From what I have read here in the last months, posters portray you as a fool who melted down on Election night. You wanted Hillary to win? How can even post here at this point.

    Before the results came in, you were saying the GOP needs to run to the left to win in 2020?

  1191. Robbie says:

    It’s sad to see long time commenters twist themselves into pretzels to defend idiotic and ridiculous comments made by Trump.

    It’s one thing to like and defend his tax policy, his view on trade, his SCOTUS pick, his desire to reduce regulations, or his high quality cabinet selections.

    It’s an entirely different thing to defend outlandish and childish behavior like attacking Nordstrom, judges, or even a Senator who spent years in a POW camps. And don’t forget Putin.

    If some believe it’s wise to have a president who acts like a comment section poster, then God help us. I want to see Trump succeed because, if he does not, the Republican party will be crushed.

  1192. CG says:

    I am not trying to be a different person. Just using my initials, as many others do.

    I did not want Hillary to win. I wanted McMullin to win and Trump to lose and I certainly would never have said the GOP needs to run to the left.

    It is a non-conservative like Trump taking the GOP to the left which I consider one of his major problems.

  1193. CG says:

    Robbie, how can you be remotely surprised by any of it?

  1194. Jake says:

    I apologize to the others here, I should not squabble with those Republicans who supported Hillary. A waste of time.

    I think Kelly Ayotte should be considered for Ginsberg’s seat. She has done a great job helping Gorsuch avoid a Filibuster

  1195. CG says:

    Trump succeeding as Trump would be the thing that crushes the Republican Party.

    I want America to succeed, but everything Trump stands for, if it is adopted by the Republican Party, would change it forever.

  1196. Jake says:

    Robbie, one thing we agree with is the Judges. It shapes a Generation. Trump has 100+ Fed seats to fill. That is the priority, not to squabble with Deadenders for Hillary like Corey.

    Robbie, Wall Street blew their wad on Hillary, and lost. Why should Trump kiss their butt now

  1197. Robbie says:

    People really believe Trump has some sort of magic pixie dust. He doesn’t. Sadly, it looks like he’s going to figure that out the hard way.

    I can assure you, if Trump tones down his act, I will be the first to praise him for it.

    If Trump decides to follow Rush Limbaugh’s playbook, it will end in tears.

  1198. Jake says:

    1233. Listen to yourself. You said the same thing on election eve. You said Trump would lose in a landslide, and would we lose the Senate and House.

    Grow up Corey and apologize for your manner

  1199. CG says:

    “I can assure you, if Trump tones down his act…”

    Spoiler alert. He won’t.

    If and when his poll numbers tank, the gutless Republican elected officials who pretend to like him or agree with him now, will suddenly become more vocal.

    If they don’t, he is their Master.

  1200. Jake says:

    1235. Robbie, they said the same thing about Reagan in 1981.

    I find it hard they you still believe the MSM, after all that happened in 2016.

  1201. CG says:

    I clearly predicted Republicans would keep the House and Senate and my predictions on those races were very good. I like any opportunity to brag about those, JT.

  1202. Mr.Vito says:

    “It’s sad to see long time commenters twist themselves into pretzels to defend idiotic and ridiculous comments made by Trump.”

    Name names and post numbers. Don’t fight ghosts.

  1203. Jake says:

    Who is your master, Corey/CG? Mark Kirk? Bill Kristol? Jay Z?

  1204. Jake says:

    1239. Liar

  1205. Jake says:

    Vito, Trump won with the same style, he is showing now. I do not defend all he does, he is crass, but he has the ability to shape the News, before the MSM.

    It works

  1206. 1233: Corey, you’re an apologist for the GOP Establishment. They have been feckless and incapable of winning a presidential election. Trump is just desserts for an out-of-touch, pretentious party hierarchy. He has already changed the party by winning heretofore blue states. Rest assured, America will succeed – because our president is right on the big things: national security; the economy; border security; and Supreme Court.

    Better than the “pragmatic moderates” we trusted in the past.

  1207. CG says:

    1241. Just G-d.

  1208. Jake says:

    Sadly, there are those who still believe the NY and DC outlets, and that the POTUS needs to be a Country Club elite who plays nice.

    Harry Truman was just as nasty as Trump.

    Cruz, Kasich, and Rubio all would have lost Penn, Mich, and Wisconsin and the Race.

    I give Trump great credit for that, and could care less about his crass style

  1209. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not want Hillary to win but she was a pragmatic compromiser so I was cool with her if she did win.

    I fixed it for Corey.

  1210. Trump says:

    Maybe you losers should have run an acceptable candidate, Jeb suckers.

  1211. Jake says:

    1244. Well Said. Their is nothing more Establishment than a RINO in Illinois.

  1212. Trump says:

    Robbie will end in tears.

    Go trump.

  1213. Mr.Vito says:

    “I did not want Hillary to win but she was a pragmatic compromiser so I was cool with her if she did win.

    I fixed it for Corey.”

    He wanted McMullin to win… you and I were rooting for Reagan’s ghost.

  1214. Jake says:

    1247. Fair enough. Corey supported Egg McMuffin, who was working for the Clinton’s to defeat Trump in Utah

  1215. CG says:

    JT, does Tammy Baldwin still have no chance because “she’s a Lesbian?”

  1216. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey, you’re an apologist for the GOP Establishment.

    WTF. I thought that I was the apologist for the GOP Establishment. According to Author, I am also a partisan hack.

  1217. Jake says:

    Trump just signed 3 EO’s to fight Drug Cartels and Gangs. His new tax plan coming in two weeks.

    But Corey is worried that he wore the wrong tie to dinner..

  1218. Jake says:

    Bitterlaw were are you from, and who was Author?

  1219. CG says:

    Trump did not wear the wrong tie to dinner.

    Everyone knows he eats in his bathrobe.

  1220. Bitterlaw says:

    Interesting that Jake uses a Tina-style name like Egg McMuffin.

  1221. Jake says:

    1253. Still with this JT thing. Considering my sister is gay, I find that offensive Corey.

    Great another closet Homophobe

  1222. Jake says:

    1258. Actually I picked that up at Hotair

  1223. Bitterlaw says:

    I live outside Philadelphia. I think you have been here long enough to know Author.

  1224. CG says:

    JT was the “homophobe.” I was hoping Baldwin would lose on the merits.

    but Of course, you Are not Him.

  1225. CG says:

    Jake, what are your thoughts on Philadelphia voter fraud and the Black Panthers?

  1226. Bitterlaw says:

    Jake – Can you ask your sister where the idea that Trump is anti-gay began? I heard the accusation before he chose Pence as VP even thought there is no evidence behind the charge.

  1227. Jake says:

    Wow. Twitter stock is crashing

  1228. Jake says:

    Who is Author? Was he a Hillary Republican like Corey?

  1229. Jake says:

    1264. Trump has never been Anti Gay, and considering his kids are all married to Jewish Spouses, not anti Semitic either

  1230. CG says:

    I gotta run.

    I’m off to buy Ivanka’s stuff!

  1231. CG says:

    Don Jr. and Eric are married to Jewesses?

    Whoa! Breaking News. (probably to them especially.)

  1232. CG says:

    That may actually be partially true. I had no idea.

  1233. NYCmike says:

    “CG” and Robbie are here again.

    Was it Gorsuch who made the statement, his aide, or Blumenthal?

    Has it been established for sure?

  1234. NYCmike says:

    Whatever you do, please don’t mention anything even closely related to anything that Moses saw burning with a voice emanating from it.

    If I see “CG” bending over that far backwards again……

  1235. NYCmike says:

    -Here is Lebron James acting like Roobie and “CG”, remarking on a topic without all of the facts being in yet.

  1236. Jake says:

    Mike, Blumenthal is still having Vietnam flashbacks.

    Corey is still making predictions of Trump’s Demise.

    Robbie at least, is hoping for good Judges.

  1237. NYCmike says:

    I know Wissing is not out shoveling.

    I am sure there are polls out there that can be posted.

  1238. NYCmike says:


    It is odd. I do not like all of the crap that Trump is tweeting about, but to so blindly regard it all as “bad” is just ridiculous.

  1239. CG says:

    Gorsuch made the statement, to several Senators individually. All have confirmed it, as has Gorsuch through a written statement via Kelly Ayotte, who is working with him.

  1240. Mr.Vito says:

    “I had no idea.”

    A good epitaph for his tombstone.

  1241. CG says:

    I think Gorsuch is a great judge. I hope Trump doesn’t pull him as Laura Ingraham now wants.

  1242. Mr.Vito says:

    Emerson poll

    Trump 48-47 rvs

    Trump admin truthful

    Media truthful

    DeVos the only nominee not supported.

  1243. Mr.Vito says:

    From above…

    Morning consult/politico says all his executive orders are favored, and the travel ban is the most popular.

  1244. Mr.Vito says:

    *among the most popular

  1245. Trump says:

    Nobody has confirmed.

    Stop lying, moron.

  1246. Mr.Vito says:

    Emerson generic ballot

    48-46 D with RVs

    Emerson says Trump has not yet shown to be a drag on the R ticket. Generic R gets 17 percent of Ds, while Ds get 4 percent of Rs. Independents 45-42 D.

  1247. Trump says:

    Gorsuch could easily confirm it himself.

    Let’s see if he has the integrity and independence to do that.

  1248. Mr.Vito says:

    Voters prefer Gorsuch to Garland by 10 points.

  1249. Mr.Vito says:

    Sessions 45-49
    Tillerson 48-33
    Gorsuch 52-33

  1250. Mr.Vito says:


    Sessions 45-40
    Tillerson 48-33
    Gorsuch 52-32

  1251. Mr.Vito says:

    Corey’s favorite pick

    DeVos 34-51

  1252. NYCmike says:

    “DeVos 34-51”


    It must be the tweets coming out of JEB!’s foundation supporting her!*

    *I am VERY glad she is in, and hope she is tough as nails with conservative-oriented education options for families who want to educate their children!

  1253. DW says:

    I am thrilled with DeVos getting in. Just yesterday there was a story out of Buffalo, NY where a homeschool mom was arrested and her children removed from the home by the Public Education Gustapo even though she had jumped through all the hoops and was cleared to homeschool her kids.

  1254. NYCmike says:

    -Always beware of unintended consequences.

    Personally, I would keep the focus on Pelosi and Schumer, and on liberal cities scattered throughout the country (Chicago, Philly, DC, San Fran, Detroit).

  1255. DW says:

    There is little more threatening to the Marxist agenda in America than them losing their stranglehold on public education indoctrination centers. It is a war. Pure and simple. I totally understand why DeVos had to get pulled through by Pence’s vote. The left hates the idea of competition in the game of influencing young minds.

  1256. Bitterlaw says:

    I support the right of parents to homeschool their children. It is not he choice that I have made because I want my children to be educated with different types of people and different ideas. “But Bitter! The schools are too liberal!”

    So? I’m not afraid to discuss with my children why I think some things that they are taught are liberal and why I disagree. The real world is messy. Might as well jump into the fray.

  1257. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I agree. They should have let Warren make her stupid speech and nobody would have bothered to listen to what she said.

  1258. Bitterlaw says:

    I know one woman who home schooled her children. She is convinced that her son did not get into Harvard because of it. I am convinced that he did not get into Harvard because he is not special in any way, had no outside activities and is just weird.

  1259. NYCmike says:

    -I am positive that the lost connections of a failed White House bid by his mother-in-law had nothing to do with this.

  1260. Bitterlaw says:


  1261. Bitterlaw says:

    Cool. I snagged the MCC and MCCC posts.

  1262. DW says:

    1296 – homeschool is not for everyone, but everyone should have the freedom to explore the possibility and choose it if they believe it is the best option.

  1263. NYCmike says:

    “The marriage has had its ups and downs. In 2011, for example, less than a year after tying the knot, Mezvinsky fled to Jackson Hole for an unexplained three-month skiing holiday.”

    -I just noticed this line in that link. I would almost feel bad for Chelsea, but the more she opines on current affairs, the less I worry about that.

  1264. NYCmike says:

    “I totally understand why DeVos had to get pulled through by Pence’s vote.”

    -Excuse me? Shouldn’t Devos be embarrassed about the need for Pence?

  1265. NYCmike says:


    That was a sarcastic rhetorical question, if you do not know.

  1266. DW says:

    1304 – why? She is the very embodiment of a very real threat to the Marxist agenda, and so it should surprise no one that all the Marxists opposed her, in addition to two squishy Republicans.

  1267. DW says:

    1305 – I didn’t even look at who said that…assumed it was lisab or someone else.

  1268. NYCmike says:



  1269. Bitterlaw says:

    DW- I agree. I don’t understand that choice but people have a right to make it. What they do not have a right to do is make everyone applaud them for making it. I know one woman who thinks that I am a horrible person for sending my children to public school rather than homeschooling them. I have told her politely to F off.

  1270. Bitterlaw says:

    Of course, I did not tell that my school system is one of the top systems in the nation and that I think she is blowing huge opportunities for her children.

  1271. DW says:

    1310 – another myth about homeschooling is that they are all conservative Christians. From something I read some time back the fastest growing segment of homeschoolers are those whose decision was based on the failing nature of the public school, with religion having no part of the decision.

    Each day that goes by there is an increase in great resources available making homeschool easier and easier. Again, not that its for everyone, or even most people. No question it is a threat to establishment liberalism.

  1272. Bitterlaw says:

    I fear people who are afraid to deal with liberals more than I fear liberals. Get in the fight, damn it.

  1273. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1286. “Gorsuch could easily confirm it himself.
    Let’s see if he has the integrity and independence to do that.”

    What a dumb thing to say. Gorsuch made any such statement as part of a private meeting with a senator. It is offensive that Senator Blumenthal would make it public. Trump handled the issue, it should now be closed.

  1274. Mr.Vito says:

    All Blumenthal has done is made Gorsuch harder to filibuster…

  1275. Mr.Vito says:

    …harder to justify such a filibuster, I should really say.

  1276. Mr.Vito says:

    Well, he has also made it less likely that people will give him any private meetings in the future…

  1277. DW says:

    I would say about homeschooling, if you are good at it, you maximize learning and eliminate so much of the wasted time in public schools (waiting in line, waiting for dumber students to get their issues resolved, etc), but you also need to get your kids involved in local programs, like music groups, community athletic leagues, etc., for a well-rounded result. If you do a good job, your kid can actually spend his/her senior year largely doing dual-enrollment coursework so they have a huge jump start on College.

  1278. Bitterlaw says:

    waiting in line, waiting for dumber students to get their issues resolved, etc)

    Learning to deal with issues and people like that is a major benefit of public schools. I believe that one of the reasons I can deal with morons like Bunu and Poster Trump is my experience dealing with morons in school.

  1279. Mr.Vito says:

    “Learning to deal with issues and people like that is a major benefit of public schools.”

    There are any number of places you can learn these things.

  1280. DW says:

    1320 – yep. Sign the kids up for a community sports team. Sign them up for a local youth orchestra. Sign them up to volunteer at a facility that runs programs for mentally disabled. All sorts of possibilities.

  1281. Bitterlaw says:

    I suspect that people, including myself, are basically defending their own choice at this point. If you homeschool your children, you think it is best and the public schools are lacking or deficient for different reasons. If your children attend public schools, you think that is best. People should do what is best for their children but everybody can think their way is better.

  1282. DW says:

    Bitter, I don’t think my choice is right for everyone. Some parents should NOT attempt to homeschool. I would even say MANY parents should not attempt to do it. I would say it is best for my family. It is not best or even recommended for others.

  1283. Mr.Vito says:

    “I suspect that people, including myself, are basically defending their own choice at this point.”

    You think my kid is homeschooled?

  1284. Mr.Vito says:

    What on earth would make someone believe you must be homeschooling to defend people who homeschool?

  1285. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I do not recall whether they are or not. I think you are more inclined to see a benefit in home schooling than I do. I’m not sure that training your children to be Jedi is the best idea but that is your choice.

  1286. Bitterlaw says:

    The people I know who homeschool do not have good motives. I recognize that they are a very small subset and I try not to impugn the rest.

  1287. JC says:

    Dakota Pipeline protesters leave behind 250 truck loads of garbage at site:

    Sanitation crews are working hard to dispose of six months’ worth of garbage from a community the size of Wahpeton or Valley City. The mountains of debris need to be moved before the spring thaw occurs.

    Making a dent in the immense amount of trash being hauled out of the Oceti Sakowin protest camp is being hindered by the weather. All the garbage that was left behind is now frozen into massive chunks of junk.

    In a month, all this trash could become toxic.

    “Standing Rock Environmental Protection Agency and Dakota Sanitation are working together to try and advert an environmental tragedy,” says Tom Doering, Morton County Emergency Manager.

    It’s estimated it will take 250 trucks filled with litter to clear the camp.

    “There’s a lot of work to be done,” says Doering.

    Each load that’s dumped is inspected by the Morton County Sheriff’s Department.

    “We are looking for, as I said, anything illegal, anything that might be used to, I guess, harm our officers during a protest,” says Jay Gruebele, Morton County Sheriff’s Office Captain.

    Authorities are also searching through the piles for evidence they hope they don’t find.

    “As bad as it sounds, we’re looking for people that may have died and could be wrapped up in a canvas or a tarp or tent,” says Gruebele.

  1288. Mr.Vito says:

    “I recognize that they are a very small subset…”


  1289. Mr.Vito says:

    “In a month, all this trash could become toxic.”

    Are they talking about the garbage or the protestors?

  1290. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1328. The delay of the Dakota Pipeline was inexcusable. Obama wrongly delayed a decision on one permit, then denied the permit at the end of 2016. Because of his action, if Trump had not reversed it, over a billion dollars having been wasted on the project. Without doubt, Obama was one of the worst U.S. presidents.

    Am now hearing very little Obama nostalgia; its as if he is becoming a non-entity. The Democrats are leaving him behind as a past memory.

  1291. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1331. The actual cost of the Keystone Pipeline was over five billion dollars, which probably rose significantly because of the years of delay.

  1292. NYCmike says:


    I believe you are a fan of ’80’s music.

    Check out this rendition of “Take On Me”.!/story/watch-brooklyn-duo-and-carnegie-hall-fellows-cover-take-me/

  1293. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Notice Trump, despite the doom and gloom of a few posters on this board, has held at 53% – 47% approval in the Rasmussen poll. And the Reuters and Emerson polls have him at 48-47% approval now.

    Seems to be holding despite the daily explosions of leftist outrage. Am impressed the Republicans in the Senate have been so disciplined in their ability to approve Trump’s cabinet. McConnell is getting some respect.

  1294. JC says:

    @1334 SanDiegoCitizen

    “Notice Trump, despite the doom and gloom of a few posters on this board, has held at 53% – 47% approval in the Rasmussen poll. And the Reuters and Emerson polls have him at 48-47% approval now.

    Seems to be holding despite the daily explosions of leftist outrage. Am impressed the Republicans in the Senate have been so disciplined in their ability to approve Trump’s cabinet. McConnell is getting some respect.”


    There’s an article yesterday about how all the organized protests, riots, and media freakouts were tried against Ronald Regan and failed. None of it stopped Regan from implementing his agenda.

    “Ronald Reagan, whose approval ratings fell from 51 percent in his first year as president to a meager 34 percent by 1982, was also the focus of international and domestic fury. Reagan triggered an international uproar when he insisted on the deployment of 572 intermediate-range nuclear force missiles in Western Europe, fulfilling a NATO agreement that had been finalized in 1979. When Reagan moved forward this plan, there was an outcry from New York to the streets of Paris. Tens of thousands of moderate and left-wing Europeans demonstrated against these new weapons on the grounds that they would escalate the threat of nuclear war. Within the United States, the nuclear freeze movement ramped up into high gear, warning that this deployment was just one among many things that Reagan had done to bring the world to the brink of nuclear war.

    On July 12, 1982, almost a million people came to a protest in New York City to express their support for freezing the production of nuclear weapons and to state their anger about Reagan. “My belief,” said then-Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), “is that Reagan was not put on Earth by God to bring us supply side economics. His role is to sit down with Brezhnev and end the arms race, to do for nuclear arms what Nixon did for China. My role is to create the atmospherics, the public and congressional support, that will make Reagan the greatest man who ever lived. He can reject, it, of course, but we will have tried.” The freeze movement drew millions of adherents, while in Congress, the House passed amendments that prohibited the administration from sending any more assistance to anti-communist forces overseas. The protests would continue over the following year, and Reagan’s approval ratings would remain low until 1984 (reaching 41 percent in January 1983). But it wouldn’t matter.

    The problem was that Reagan’s support among Republicans kept growing.

    While Democrats saw a renegade president whose bombast threatened to trigger a nuclear war, many Republicans saw a heroic leader who was standing up to the evils of communism and taking on all of his opponents, whether they were in Congress, on the streets, or in the media. Reagan found a way to use the protesters filling the streets to his advantage, depicting them as one more opponent to the national interest that he was willing to take on. He also proposed his Strategic Defense Initiative (which critics dubbed “Star Wars”), a hypothetical missile shield that would protect the United States from attack, as a muscular, aggressive alternative to freezing production of nuclear weapons.”

  1295. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Very cool. Is your son in this group?

  1296. biomom says:

    Some people I know who could easily send their kids to private schools choose public because, as they readily admit, they are paying taxes for it already so why pay twice?

    So everyone has their own reasons for a heir choices, not all so admirable.

  1297. NYCmike says:

    “Am now hearing very little Obama nostalgia; its as if he is becoming a non-entity. The Democrats are leaving him behind as a past memory.”

    -Small anecdotal evidence of this: A good friend of mine, voted Obama twice, still mentions “Bush” in every discussion we have, has been almost more supportive of Trump than I have since the election.

    He has mentioned the pipelines, mainly because he saw the pictures of the garbage.
    The immigration order he does not understand the problem, since he knew about Obama’s temporary ban.
    Cabinet members – I reminded him about my dislike of Obama’s appointees, along with the fact that there were no violent protests to accompany that dislike.
    Disruption of conservative speakers – he is appalled at what happened in Berkeley.

  1298. Robbie says:

    So the “gang of eight” immigration bill came up in Trump’s luncheon with Senators. My head is spinning.

  1299. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – Very cool. Is your son in this group?”

    -No, but a friend of his from like 1st grade is a bit of a protege, and has played with one of the individuals in the group playing.

    While he has kept showing improvement, and will be in the orchestra when he starts high school next September, I am not sure if he has the desire to get to that level. He does NOT practice nearly enough.

  1300. NYCmike says:

    “My head is spinning.”

    -Yes, we have noticed your lack of focus.

  1301. NYCmike says:

    Well, your lack of focus on anything resembling reality.

  1302. NYCmike says:

    -Looks like the “9th Circus” is earning their nickname, while the U.S. lawyers need to improve their game.

    Then again, York has been a labeled a hack, so we can’t listen to him.

  1303. NYCmike says:

    -Everything I hear about this government agency is terrible.

    Get rid of it! NOW! Some people will howl for a week, and then that will be it.

  1304. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1339. “So the “gang of eight” immigration bill came up in Trump’s luncheon with Senators. My head is spinning.”

    The White House stated afterwards it is not open to the gang of five immigration bill.

    Sorry to hear your head is spinning. Switching to decaf often helps.

  1305. NYCmike says:

    “Switching to decaf often helps.”

    -Or, taking a couple of days BEFORE commenting on any specific story that comes across the wires, as has been suggested by another poster several times!

  1306. Barrett says:

    #1345 – we really need to deal with the gang problem in the senate

  1307. CashCow TM says:

    Protestors attempt to stop deportation of illegal alien for identity theft.

  1308. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1347. “#1345 – we really need to deal with the gang problem in the senate.”

    Yes, and my counting problem as well; I mistakenly wrote “gang of five.”

  1309. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 9, 2017 at 4:16 pm
    “My head is spinning.”
    -Yes, we have noticed your lack of focus.

    – Trump’s going to sell you out and you’ll smile all the way.

  1310. Trump says:

    Another faceless point from the Jeb sycophant.

  1311. Trump says:

    Really high on fake news, aren’t you?

  1312. Trump says:

    Are you smiling all the way on Jeb?

  1313. Robbie says:

    Impossible. Ivanka’s clothing line is a matter of national defense. Kellyanne should be praised for urging American to buy her clothing line from the White House.

    NBC News ?@NBCNews 17m
    17 minutes ago

    Jason Chaffetz: Kellyanne Conway’s statements about Ivanka Trump fashion line “appear to violate federal ethics regulations”

  1314. Trump says:

    Fake news

  1315. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1354. Are we getting a little petty? If an Obama Administration member had made this type of improper comment, do you really believe this type of whining by the leftist press would have resulted?

  1316. lisab says:

    the easiest way to home school is actually to work with an online school, where you follow lesson plans provided by the school. this creates evidence via home works, tests, reports etc. that can be used as evidence that you are really teaching your children to state standards

  1317. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Fox News: @Sen_JoeManchin on @POTUS meeting: “Not only did we talk about the nominee for the Supreme Court, we talked about many, many subjects.”

    This after Manchin voted for Sessions.

    Meanwhile Heitkamp is defending the Dakota pipeline, much to the anger of the leftist zealots. Thought the Democratic strategy was to break the GOP moderates away from Trump; not push the moderate Democrats to him?

    Where is Obamacon and the other trolls? They need to explain what is happening?

  1318. lisab says:

    “Sign the kids up for a community sports team. Sign them up for a local youth orchestra.”

    actually they can participate in their local school’s sports program, music etc.

  1319. NYCmike says:

    “– Trump’s going to sell you out and you’ll smile all the way.”

    -“smile all the way”?

    You are ridiculous.

    I know exactly what I got when I voted for Trump:


    After that, I am watching every move he makes, just like I am watching every move Congress makes, every move the Democrats (along with MSM and protesters) make, as well as the courts.

    So far:

    Trump has done some good things, and some
    questionable things.

    Congress has done some good things, and some questionable things.

    The courts have done some questionable things.

    Democrats (along with MSM and protesters) have been wonderful, acting like jackasses at every turn!

    Cherry on top: HILLARY has done NOTHING!

  1320. wvally says:

    I know a few homeschool families that have gymnasts on my daughter’s team. I am envious–their kids are very broadly involved and academically advanced. Homeschooling is huge in my area so there are lots of group programs they get involved in.

    I work so I don’t have the time. My daughter is in a mediocre elementary. It was good when we moved here when my son attended, but then the school divided and and now it’s not so good. If I lived in Bitter’s school district I wouldn’t consider it.

  1321. NYCmike says:

    #1358 – the only thing bad about these things are the Dem Senators may survive another election.

    Trump, and Congress, needs to keep pushing them to make tough decisions!

  1322. lisab says:

    Children being born in the United States today have a near one in two (43%) chance of being born into households living on the brink of poverty.

    only 20 days later

  1323. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Bunu’s proud declaration of ignorance of the Constitution is breathtaking.”

    wrong again.

    The executive branch has coequal power for constitutional interpretation with the judiciary.

    The judiciary can not over rule the president’s interpretation of the constitution.

  1324. wvally says:

    1363 and we’re all waiting for the homeless stories w baited breath…

  1325. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1363. “have a near one in two (43%)”

    I may not be the only poster today having a problem with numbers.

  1326. Robbie says:

    Hooray for Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller! These two guiding lights of populism have served Trump and Republicans so well. I look forward to finding out what else they have their ACME bag of tricks.

  1327. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1362 “the only thing bad about these things are the Dem Senators may survive another election.”

    Or they may survive another election, but not as Democrats.

  1328. Robbie says:

    If Trump was smart, he would simply institute his new and improved enhanced vetting today and simply move on from this EO. It was scheduled to end in 80 days anyway.

    Alas, Trump and Bannon will choose to go to war over this meaningless EO rather than focus on tax reform, Obamacare repeal, and deregulation.

  1329. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Heitkamp is one of the nation’s chief proponents of clean coal. She is wasting her talents in the party of Al Gore & Obama. She needs to switch parties and take the lead in pushing a technology she helped create prior to being a senator.

  1330. Robbie says:

    By the way, what ever happened to tax reform and Obamacare repeal? Where is the Congress on this?

  1331. lisab says:

    Wikipedia editors have said they will no longer accept links to Daily Mail stories to support citations because it is too unreliable.

  1332. wvally says:

    It’s a sh*tshow Robbie. Not surprising. The Ivanka thing–good grief.

    Still, I expect they’ll manage to get some good things done. Priorities are on the right track.

  1333. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump was reputedly to have considered Heitkamp for energy or agriculture secretary. Think that Obama or Clinton would have wanted her in their cabinet?

    It is very doubtful she could win re-election as a Democrat, and might not even get the Democratic nomination in 2018.

  1334. lisab says:

    The statement added: “The general themes of the support votes centred on the Daily Mail’s reputation for poor fact checking, sensationalism, and flat-out fabrication.”

  1335. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1372. “By the way, what ever happened to tax reform and Obamacare repeal? Where is the Congress on this?”

    Trump has been in office only about 20 days, and you expect this by now?? The news indicates that Congress and the president are working on these issues. Your quiver of arrows is apparently running out. Your supposed to be creating outrage against Trump.

  1336. PresidentPaul! says:

    State senator destroys Trump on Trump’s support of civil asset forfeiture

    Daylin Leach?@daylinleach
    Hey @realDonaldTrump I oppose civil asset forfeiture too! Why don’t you try to destroy my career you fascist, loofa-faced, sh**it-gibbon!

  1337. lisab says:

    “Trump has been in office only about 20 days, and you expect this by now??”

    well jeb would have raised taxes by now

  1338. Robbie says:

    wvally says:
    February 9, 2017 at 7:25 pm
    It’s a sh*tshow Robbie. Not surprising. The Ivanka thing–good grief.
    Still, I expect they’ll manage to get some good things done. Priorities are on the right track.

    – Amen. These first three weeks have been amateur hour. Some good will get done, but I never could have imagined the first three weeks would be so bad.

  1339. Robbie says:

    Nice try SanDiego.

    By this point in 2001, GWB had already presented his tax plan to the Congress and he wasn’t officially POTUS until mid December.

    By this point in 2009, Obama was just a few days away from signing the stimulus bill.

    My guess is they’re slow off the start because they’re forced to spend most of their time reacting to ridiculous tweets Trump sends from out of nowhere.

  1340. Tina says:

    See, the 9th circus court. Libgards appointed by w, clintune, and the obumbker.

  1341. Tina says:

    Notice how resident fake news claims the exec order is meaningless. No, it is not.

  1342. Tina says:

    it is strange that ryan and mitchie did not have the obumblercare repeal done.

    Mitchie is drunk and ryan wants to lift 2 lb dumbells.

  1343. lisab says:

    “– Amen. These first three weeks have been amateur hour. Some good will get done, but I never could have imagined the first three weeks would be so bad.”

    don’t worry the dems will pull themselves together eventually

  1344. NYCmike says:

    “Hooray for Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller! These two guiding lights of populism have served Trump and Republicans so well.”

    -I guess there is a FIRST TIME for everything./

    99% of the country have no idea who these 2 are, yet Robbie mentions them every day.

  1345. NYCmike says:

    ” Where is the Congress on this?”

    -Robbie FINALLY starts asking the same questions as I did, albeit 3 weeks later.

  1346. Tina says:

    Gosh, i gave creit to w for his court picks, but they are looking worse and worse by the day.

  1347. Tina says:

    Tucker is blowing away mayhem kelly.

  1348. NYCmike says:

    “Alas, Trump and Bannon will choose to go to war”

    -They “chose”?


    Trump acted, constitutionally I may add (or should I wait for the court ruling?)

    A judge “chose” to delay action on his EO.

    Should he then let the judge run the country, or should he stay and fight for what his voters, and the rest of the country, is looking for him to do, carry out his constitutionally-ordered duties?

  1349. lisab says:

    “it is strange that ryan and mitchie did not have the obumblercare repeal done.”

    they don’t want it done

  1350. Robbie says:

    Has Dave gone on vacation? We’re approaching 1400 comments.

  1351. Tina says:

    Ding, ding, ding.

    Yup, they, flake, mcamneestrym and goober do not want to repeal

    I predicted the rs would surrender.

  1352. NYCmike says:


    Your favorite “news” source has something to take your mind off politics for a day or two, as prescribed by DR. MR. Vito., S.O.C.K.

  1353. NYCmike says:

    Good night!

  1354. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 9, 2017 at 8:15 pm
    “Hooray for Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller! These two guiding lights of populism have served Trump and Republicans so well.”

    -I guess there is a FIRST TIME for everything./

    99% of the country have no idea who these 2 are, yet Robbie mentions them every day

    – I mention them because they are the nitwits who pushed through this debacle of an order.

    Just imagine what the last three weeks might have looked like had they not pushed through a clearly flawed EO.

    Trump wouldn’t have gotten off track with legal fights, protests, or attacks on “so-called judges”.

    But hey, why be smart when we can fight, right?

  1355. NYCmike says:

    Will MD come back for the “MD”?

  1356. NYCmike says:

    Robbie thinks if they changed the wording on the EO, it would have sailed right thru.

    But, Bannon and Miller are the nitwits……

  1357. NYCmike says:

    wHAT THE

  1358. Tina says:

    Lets have sopan opine. He was touted her a lot in the summer.

  1359. NYCmike says:


  1360. NYCmike says:


  1361. NYCmike says:


  1362. NYCmike says:

    -Hopefully, this will reflect badly on his brother.

    Maybe Breitbart will repeat the story but put ” Andrew Cuomo” instead of Chris Cuomo…….

  1363. wvally says:

    Robbie’s concern posting is nothing compared to what I’m dealing with.

    My lib family & friends think we’re on the brink of defunding all science, building gas chambers & starting WWIII. The “Daily Panic Attack” article I posted above is no joke. More like hourly. It’s exhausting.

  1364. Trump says:

    Where is congress?

    Hey dumb-fu$&, why don’t you ask congress?

    Trump Ids not responsible for this as-clowns.

  1365. Trump says:

    The good progressives that Ryan is, he doesn’t want to give up the Obamacare taxes.

  1366. Trump says:


    And that’s only this week.

  1367. Trump says:

    Robbie is not concern posting.

    He is just an as- who lost badly and can’t deal with it.

  1368. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw if you happen to have amazon prime they offer free movies for members, and one of them is Sicario right now, which is a really good movie.

    Rason podcast: Is Trump a ‘Fascist, Loofa-Faced, Sh*it-Gibbon’ for Opposing Civil Asset Forfeiture Reform? (New Reason Podcast)

  1369. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1380. “By this point in 2009, Obama was just a few days away from signing the stimulus bill.”

    The Obama stimulus bill was a travesty, and is widely viewed as a failure, if not folly. It spent money for the sake of spending money, and resulted in abuses like Solyndra. No thank you, I prefer the Trump approach to spend more time to better plan.

  1370. Cash Cow TM says:

    the word abhorrent

    hard towner brother

    whore doth banter R
    brentwood hearth R
    death brother worn

  1371. DW says:

    Just 87 posts until MD returns.

  1372. Mr.Vito says:

    “By this point in 2009, Obama was just a few days away from signing the stimulus bill.”

    You mean when he had total control of Congress?

  1373. Mr.Vito says:

    News Flash: Donald Trump supports his daughter.

    This changes everything.

  1374. Bitterlaw says:

    The judiciary can not over rule the president’s interpretation of the constitution.

    Tell that to President Obama:

  1375. janz says:

    #1405 wvally, your extended family sounds very stressful to deal with. I hope it mellows out in the near future.

  1376. PresidentPaul! says:

    “The judiciary can not over rule the president’s interpretation of the constitution.”

    Of course the court can over rule the president’s interpretation of the constitution.

    However they are not the final say just as the president is not the final say either.

    The branches are coequal and all are entitled to their interpretations. They are also not required to obey each other.

  1377. Bitterlaw says:

    WV – You’re an A-hole. Tell your family that if they think everything is really terrible, it is their duty to move to Syria and help end the war. Or you could just tell them to suck it.

  1378. janz says:

    How long is this endless thread going to be going on?

  1379. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t know if Bunu is an anarchist or a 5 year old.

  1380. PresidentPaul! says:

    President should have instructed the state department not to follow the courts decision.

    If they refuse? Fire all of them even 100% of them.

    That happens then we have reduced the size of government well.

  1381. janz says:

    Bitter, you’re getting more verbally assertive.

  1382. PresidentPaul! says:

    “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”

    -Andrew Jackson discussing the court’s opinion

  1383. janz says:

    Some have suggested Trump withdraw the contested EO, and restructure a new one, which would still accomplish the intent of the original one, while circumventing all the legal pot holes. IMO, there is merit to this suggestion.

  1384. Tina says:

    Hi, bl and janz.

  1385. PresidentPaul! says:

    One option is to of a presidential memo stating the order is lawful & constitutional, the court was incorrect, and instruct the state department to enforce it assuming his legal team believes this all to be the case.

    This would offer a way to remove moles from the state the department who are Obama hold overs.

  1386. janz says:

    Hi Tina, how is your hand?

  1387. wvally says:

    My hyperventilating family is my sister and my mom. My hypervetintilating friends are every woman I know on facebook except a few locals here in wv. Hysterical freaking women.

  1388. PresidentPaul! says:

    Also a meo stating the court was incorrect would likely enrage the dems into filibuster of Gorsuch which would be a good thing.

    It would be better to have that fight now rather than during a later confirmation battle.

  1389. wvally says:

    Do you tell hysterical women to go suck it, Bitter? Better to say, “yes dear”, and then give vote straight rep in 18.

  1390. Bitterlaw says:

    Do you tell hysterical women to go suck it, Bitter?

    Only my wife. Never works. Zing!

  1391. janz says:

    WV, living in CA, I really can’t discuss politics with anyone. All my friends and acquaintances are super anti Trump women, including our son’s girlfriend, who relished going to the Woman’s March in Los Angeles. So, I have some idea what you’re experiencing. I don’t even go on Facebook anymore, because of the vitriol.

  1392. Bitterlaw says:

    Just tell your mom that some day she may need a nursing home and does he want to the crappy government one or the privately operated one that Republicans prefer.

  1393. wvally says:

    I have to be on FB bc I’m president of the damn gymnastics booster club. It’s a hell hole right now.

  1394. Bitterlaw says:

    I have told my liberal friends that if they want to have pointless arguments where nobody will change their minds, I am ready. We usually discuss other things.

  1395. janz says:

    Somehow, I assumed that once the election was decided some of the political intensity would decrease. But, it only seems to have only gone from bad to worse.

  1396. Tina says:

    Janz, doing better thanks. Stanford fixed it well

  1397. Tina says:

    Can you de friend them,. Wvally.

  1398. NYCmike says:

    Where is Michael to send Wissing some poll numbers that he can post on a new thread?

    Mr. Vito, where did you get that info earlier? Get it to Wissing, stat!

  1399. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 9, 2017 at 8:28 pm
    Robbie thinks if they changed the wording on the EO, it would have sailed right thru.

    But, Bannon and Miller are the nitwits……

    – Yes, a properly worded and vetted EO, along with a well thought out rollout, would have face few, if any, legitimate legal challenges.

    Unfortunately, Bannon and Miller didn’t allow for the typical vetting an important order like this deserves and they insisted it be published without preparing Congress or outside allies. There’s a reason there has been a sudden decrease in the number of EO’s coming from the White House. Trump saw what a mess they created and put Priebus in charge.

    But just keep on ignoring reality.

  1400. NYCmike says:

    Key words: “legitimate legal challenges.”

    Enough said.

  1401. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 9, 2017 at 9:04 pm
    1380. “By this point in 2009, Obama was just a few days away from signing the stimulus bill.”

    No thank you, I prefer the Trump approach to spend more time to better plan.

    – Yes, because spending more time is clearly what Trump did with the immigration EO.

  1402. wvally says:

    Unfriend my friends? No. I’d be left w Walt and Bitter. Who are awesome and all, but my husband probably wouldn’t be cool w me hanging w them for a spa weekend. I keep the A-hole club meetings on the down low.

  1403. NYCmike says:

    Talk about “ignoring reality.”

  1404. NYCmike says:

    -It is almost cruel to re-post this, but after 8 years of suffering through his Presidency, he had it coming.

  1405. wvally says:

    My policy is to never, ever reply to any political post on FB. Never have, never will. I save that part of me for HHR.

  1406. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:15 pm
    Key words: “legitimate legal challenges.”

    Enough said.

    – Well, whether you like what has happened or not, the courts have viewed the challenges as legitimate.

    Again, Trump’s team took what should have been a popular measure and turned it into a fiasco because Bannon and Miller rushed things.

  1407. NYCmike says:


    Why are you so concerned about the EO?

    Do you share Trump’s view that not putting his EO into action ASAP our nation will be less safe?

    Or is it something else?

  1408. wvally says:

    Learning curve, Robbie. They’ll get there.

  1409. Tina says:

    The eo would have been challenged no matter what was in it. They shopped it to a bush open borders judge.

  1410. NYCmike says:

    “Again, Trump’s team took what should have been a popular measure and turned it into a fiasco..”

    -A fiasco? Do you have any poll numbers to back up your assertion? It must be like 66% against, only 25% for, the rest being illegals who don’t answer these polls.

    I am sure Mr. Vito would be glad to post his poll numbers.

  1411. Tina says:

    Did anybody read what crystal,meth said about white people?

    Who would hire crystal meth?

  1412. NYCmike says:

    “Learning curve, Robbie. They’ll get there.”

    -In one comment, understanding, patience, empathy, wisdom.

    A-Hole standards are NOT THE SAME since MD left!

    We need MD!

    MD! MD! MD! MD!

  1413. Tina says:

    Bill Kristol: White Working Class Should be Replaced by Immigrants (VIDEO)

    Crystal method is the village idiot.

  1414. Robbie says:

    Trump – The sky is red.

    HHR commenters – It sure is.

  1415. NYCmike says:

    Heh. It looks like Mr. Vito already posted his polls (Yes, I knew that before I wrote my comment! Sue me!)

    Mr.Vito says:
    February 9, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    From above…

    Morning consult/politico says all his executive orders are favored, and the travel ban is the most popular.

  1416. NYCmike says:

    “Trump – The sky is red.”

    -Old Seafarers Saying:

    “Red sky at night, sailor’s delight!
    Red sky at dawn, sailors be warned!”

  1417. wvally says:

    Bill Kristol: White Working Class Should be Replaced by Immigrants


    Well that’s letting the cat out of the bag. How f*cking brazen.

  1418. NYCmike says:

    I figured in the time it took me to write that comment, Robbie would have posted his “evidence”.

    Still waiting……..maybe “CG” could help find some…..

  1419. Trump says:

    This fat as- is still ranting?

    Kill yourself, Robbie. That’s the only way to cure your derangement.

  1420. NYCmike says:



    You called it a “fiasco”.

    Are we now using “fake definitions”?

  1421. Tina says:

    Krstol meth ruined dan quayle. Everything he touches, he destroys.

  1422. NYCmike says:



    That is unacceptable, even in jest, you jackass!

  1423. NYCmike says:

    Ok, good night.

    I am “SURE” by morning Robbie will post his “evidence”.

  1424. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    Why are you so concerned about the EO?

    Do you share Trump’s view that not putting his EO into action ASAP our nation will be less safe?

    Or is it something else?

    – Why am I so concerned? Because I want to see a successful presidency that accomplishes tax reform, Obamacare repeal, and conservative SCOTUS justices. That can’t happen if the president becomes unpopular.

    Unfortunately, this EO and the first three weeks of this presidency have been nothing but a clown show. As a result, Trump’s approval is in the low to mid forties and likely will drop more.

    So at the very moment in time when Republicans have a chance to accomplish significant legislative and judicial reform, Trump is dragging the party perception down thanks to his petty grievances and his poorly executed EO’s.

    This EO has been a distraction. To be clear, I support every bit of it except the green cards, but it has been mangled and it has thrown everyone into a tizzy.

    Trump may have the temperament to be president, but he is giving everyone who doubted his temperament reason to believe he’s way out of his league.

    If you don’t think Warren can win in 2020 with all of this happening, then nothing was learned from 2016.

  1425. Tina says:

    The 9th circus court is overturned 80 percent of the time.

    They have a horrible record and a lot of wackos.

  1426. Robbie says:

    wvally says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:21 pm
    Learning curve, Robbie. They’ll get there.

    – I think Trump’s White House staff will find their sea legs, but it’s hard to operate when the plan for the day can be blown up by a tweet Trump sends out based on something he saw on Fox n Friends or Hannity.

  1427. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:22 pm
    “Again, Trump’s team took what should have been a popular measure and turned it into a fiasco..”

    -A fiasco? Do you have any poll numbers to back up your assertion? It must be like 66% against, only 25% for, the rest being illegals who don’t answer these polls.

    I am sure Mr. Vito would be glad to post his poll numbers.

    – I guess all of those protests and negative court ruling are no biggie.

  1428. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:22 pm
    The eo would have been challenged no matter what was in it. They shopped it to a bush open borders judge.

    – There would have been challenges, but it is widely agreed the sloppy wording of the EO has made the challenges easier to make.

  1429. Cash Cow TM says:

    Instead of issuing another EO, Trump needs to issue an EIEIO.

    U.S. had a porous border,

  1430. wvally says:

    I’m just saying–don’t be hysterical like the overwrought women in my FB feed. Guess what–they and all the media are blue state voters and are impotent. That’s half the reason they’re all freaking out. So much wasted breath. Vito’s numbers show why. Cut your media diet by 70% and chill.

  1431. Tina says:

    He just needs to send the aussie refugees back, buikd the wall, and deport, All legal