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Open Thread Sunday

I guess after ten days, it is about time for a clean thread.

There has been a complete lack of election polling, which hopefully will pick up soon.

Posted by Dave at 8:13 am
Filed under: General | Comments (714)

714 Responses to “Open Thread Sunday”

  1. PresidentPaul! says:

    You can’t Stump the Trump

  2. Tina says:

    Yes a new thread and more criminal illegals deported.

  3. Waingro says:

    Happy Sunday everyone.

  4. NYCmike says:

    Wissing must have missed the polls about Americans feelings about the President’s EO’s.

  5. NYCmike says:

    http://nypost.com/2017/02/12/clinton-reminds-us-why-were-lucky-she-lost-the-election/

    -“CG” thinks she is a “pragmatic compromiser”.

    KAC responded appropriately.

  6. Robbie says:

    Stephen Miller went on many of the Sunday shows and was predictably terrible.

  7. NYCmike says:

    “was predictably terrible.”

    Sunday shows – end at 11:30(?).
    Robbie comments – 11:37

    Terribly predictable.

  8. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito suggested 3 days…..Robbie went for a 7 minute delay…..progress.

  9. NYCmike says:

    Surprised that Robbie didn’t tell us how Trump, Spicer, and KAC are being “decimated” on SNL, and it will surely lead to a massive loss in 2018 and 2020./

  10. janz says:

    Interesting background on Stephen Miller is that he was raised in a liberal Jewish family, in a super socially progressive community, forming his conservative philosophies while attending an equally progressive high school. Like many who are exposed to leftist environments in their youth, they become extremely “turned off” to the rhetoric and actions of the left, doing a 180 the other way as they mature.

  11. NYCmike says:

    Just watched a few clips from SNL – my wife walked away saying “Glad we didn’t stay up….”.

  12. NYCmike says:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/talking-bag-of-pus-twitter-rips-stephen-miller-for-clearly-reading-from-script-on-sunday-shows/

    -I figured I should watch Mr. Miller to see how “terrible” he was. I also figured I should link to a negative story about his performance, to see what the left is saying about it.

    I came away thinking:

    a) it is with good reason that I don’t watch these shows, because both Chuck Todd and Stephen Miller are beyond grating.
    b) Miller stuck to the script given to him, tried to keep going back to American citizens harmed by illegals. He was given a job to do, and did it. NOBODY will mention this (except maybe SNL and Robbie) a week from now.
    c) Chuck Todd is a tool, and was “predictably terrible”.
    d) Robbie needs to work more, and stay out of the airport lounges where CNN is on the television.

  13. NYCmike says:

    Carry on.

  14. Tina says:

    Policy 2.111

  15. Tina says:

    Who cares avout met the depressed, etc.

  16. Tina says:

    Stephen Miller is great. He stuck to the issues he was told to speak on, you do not answer the host,s questions. Rather, re divert as much as possible,

    And the jebots are mad, deporttions have increased.

  17. Tina says:

    Jebots aka drats do not like

    People that do not promode cliamte change bs.

    People that i dicate voter fraud exists.

    Deportations

    Jebots triggered at 8 am.

  18. Robbie says:

    Maybe it’s NYCMike who should take a few days off from his unending defense of Trump. In today’s Gallup track, Trump’s approval has fallen to just 40%. So at least for now, it’s NYCMike who seems to be missing what Americans feel about Trump. That’s unless he buys into Trump’s view that anything not good for him is fake news.

    There’s plenty of time for Trump and his ragtag band of White House staffers to turn things around, but to poo-poo these first three weeks and Trump’s quickly dropping standing would be a massive mistake. If this was Obama with a 40% approval rating three weeks in, the very people arguing approval rating doesn’t matter would be saying the exact opposite.

    If Trump doesn’t straighten out the problems his nascent White House faces soon, it’s possible he will become as good for Democrats as Obama was for Republicans, especially at the state level.

  19. NYCmike says:

    Trump will become an issue if he pushes unpopular policies that drive people out of work and prices up.

    Robbie, take your panties off, you are an embarrassment to strong women everywhere!

  20. Robbie says:

    The one constant about Tina, other than her inability to spell correctly, is her ability to perfectly parrot hard right talking points and catch phrases like “triggered”. Of course, it’s not hard to understand since her prime sources of news seem to be stories linked at Drudge or Gateway Pundit.

  21. Bitterlaw says:

    The Wizard lives!

  22. NYCmike says:

    “The one constant about” Robbie is that his prime sources are, at the least, less trustworthy than Drudge and/or Gateway Pundit. Tina’s sources are known to have a certain bias, while Robbie’s sources claim to be objective. Robbie, along with most “liberal Democrats”, simply regurgitate that “unbiased” news.

    SAD.

  23. Tina says:

    What does sopan say?

    And wolifie?

    Parrot the media lies.

  24. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Trump will become an issue if he pushes unpopular policies that drive people out of work and prices up.

    – Your basic premise seems to be Trump, or any president, can act like a mentally unstable clown and no one will care as long as the unemployment rate is low. That’s not how the world works. Persona matters.

    Trump has chosen to make Trump the issue. That’s why he refuses to take a step back from Twitter or other forms of confrontation. He wants to be the center of the show. And now that he no longer has Clinton as a campaign foil, the public is issuing its early verdict on him as a person.

    If Trump was to tone down his act (and that’s what it is) and allow the focus to shift to his policy proposals on taxes and Obamacare, then I think his approval rating would rise since his issues are popular. Nothing in Trump’s past suggests he’s willing to do that though.

  25. Tina says:

    I only make the observation. You are triggered by trump and trigeered by mr. Miller today.

  26. Robbie says:

    Tina

    You seem obsessed with Sopan deb. I, on the other hand, am not. I’ve never followed him on Twitter and I really don’t even know what he does. You certainly seem to know who he is though. I guess you’re triggered by him.

  27. Robbie says:

    Tina is the very epitome of a comment section conservative. She’s got all of the phrases down.

  28. Tina says:

    Mcamnesty can suck it

    Isis chemical chief was exploded today.

  29. Tina says:

    I bet him, goober and the jebots want war abainst russia.

    They are not reagan conservstives.

    Add in mark lievine. We have to take the refugees because Australia is an ally.

    Barf.

  30. Sheeple Jr says:

    Robbie really is a sick puppy! Does he claim that he is a Republican?

  31. Robbie says:

    It takes a special kind of idiocy to go on Sunday shows and claim with certitude Trump lost NH due to voters being bused in from MA. Ayotte could have asked for a recount for just $500, yet she didn’t because she realized she had, sadly, come up just short.

    Miller knew he wasn’t telling the truth about the vote count in NH, but he did know Trump was watching. He was out to maintain and/or improve his standing within Trump’s small, insular clique of cast off advisors.

  32. Robbie says:

    Sheeple Jr says:
    February 12, 2017 at 3:24 pm
    Robbie really is a sick puppy! Does he claim that he is a Republican?

    – Yes, I’m a Republican. I am not a Trumpist like many here appear to have become.

  33. lisab says:

    they don’t want war against russia

    they want a perpetual cold war

    so that taxes are always high

  34. lisab says:

    yes he is a republican that loves snl and hates drudge

    that tells you what you need to know

  35. NYCmike says:

    ” I am not a Trumpist like many here appear to have become.”

    -You are getting more and more like “CG”.

    You are the only “pure” one. Just stop, please stop.

    Trump’s “act” is just that. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt, since he has shown over the past year that it worked.

    And, I will look for Congress to set the agenda in regards to policies, since that is the way The Founding Fathers intended it to be.

  36. NYCmike says:

    You are a TRumpist if:

    You don’t believe the first report sent out over the wire.
    You don’t quote verbatim from the NY Times, WAPO, CNN, etc.
    You think that 90 weeks before the election is too soon to worry about the next election.

  37. Sheeple Jr says:

    Robbie- hard to believe that you are an Elephant. Although, I will admit that you are ultra annoying! Say something positive about the GOP and then about Trump to establish your street cred.
    You and about 10 other people watch the Sunday shows. No one cares.
    As for Gallup, it had Obama at a 56% approval rating on election day this past November and the GOP crushed the election.About 1/3 of their poll respondents are not registered voters. It refused to poll the Presidential horse race in the last election.Why?Its political polling has been disregarded by almost all.
    What is your livelihood?

  38. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/okeefe-strikes-undercover-video-shows-nh-election-officials-allowing-state-voters/

    No voter fraud here

    See how the drats are triggered by voter fraud claims and deportations of criminals.

  39. Sheeple Jr says:

    Robbie- I agree that Trump is brittle and mostly annoying. He should tone down “his act”. As long as his policies poll well,which they do, and the economy hums, the GOP will do well in the mid-terms. The Right/Wrong Track Indicator as well as Consumer Confidence are rising quickly and those are more determinant than a Presidential Approval Rate for an incumbent Party.
    At least for the next 200 weeks, we should get good Justices and economic growth. That makes me sleep well at night.

  40. Tina says:

    The goober graham, mcamnesty and bush wing of the r party is dead.

  41. Cash Cow TM says:

    Caught some of Stephen Miller on Geroge Step.all.over.us show this morning.

    Step.all.over.us was clearly confrontational and dismissive of what Miller had to say. It was George’s show so he always had to get the last work in in every exchange George Stefanufagus initiated.

    Got tired of George S.’s continual “So you are saying that…”, and “so you really have no proof that…” and ignored what Miller was saying as to him not having anything new to add, and that it is well accepted by all quarters that there are tons of people registered in more than one state, lots of illegals registered to vote, and cases of illegals who have voted–and that is the story that the news media needs to dig into and and shine the light on instead of KA Conway’s flippant remark for everyone to go buy Ivanka clothing.

    I like the fact that Miller was not going to be bum rushed into playing defense all the time by Little George (hard D and lib credentials) step.all.over.us

  42. Sheeple Jr says:

    Is it me or is there a neurological virus in the air in the LA area that makes people nuts?
    The Under Armor CEO said a positive thing about the President of the USA. Sounds perfectly rational,right?
    Then along comes Bush the 43rd’s greatest Hollywood supporter in 2000, The Rock, to scold Under Armor’s CEO for saying nice things about our President. This LA virus certainly makes strong men into pussies!

  43. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    28. Robbie, I would suggest not relying on polls the way you did on the exit polls on election day in November. It resulted in some very bad predictions on your part (have listed many of them below).
    ___________

    Robbie says: November 8, 2016 at 6:06 pm

    “Give me a break.
    I’m totally disappointed Clinton’s going to win and more than a few good Republicans are going to lose because of it.
    I’m even more depressed that we have to wait another four years to try and fix this. Of course, if we nominate Cruz, then we’ll have to wait until 2024.
    I’m celebrating nothing. I’m pissed.”
    __________

    “I’m not sure if they have any state specific data, but Mark Halperin and John Heilemann both just suggested Democrats could sweep most of the Senate races. Earlier this evening, they didn’t offer that impression.”

    Robbie says: November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    “Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.”

    Robbie says: November 8, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    “Look like a rough night, but we all knew that once Trump became the nominee.”

  44. Robbie says:

    Sheeple Jr

    You must be a newcomer to the site because I spent the better part of a week praising Trump for selecting Neil Gorsuch. I also said good things about Trump when the NYT reported Raymond Kethledge and Brett Kavanaugh are the top two contenders to replace Anthony Kennedy.

    I also praised Trump for the vast majority of his cabinet selections. Sessions, Mattis, Kelly, Pompaeo, Tillerson, Pruitt, and Price were all fantastic choices. Sadly, we don’t have government by cabinet anymore.

    I’m not, however, going to pretend the first three weeks of nuttiness from Trump and his staff are nothing about which to worry. Trump set the tone when he visited the CIA and rambled on about crowd size and the press. With a few exceptions, that’s who he’s been ever since.

  45. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    47. Robbie, if you were a political consultant and made that bad of predictions. Your clients would inform you, in the words of a famous TV personality: “Your fired”.

  46. Cash Cow TM says:

    Part of an email forwarded to me by a relative.
    Comes from a high rankng retired military guy.
    *****************************************
    “So with ISIS and these substantial strategic threats, how do our forces stack up right now? After years of Defense budget sequestration imposed by the Budget Control Act of 2011, we have had military resources trimmed. How much is arguable. Former General Petraeus has testified that our readiness is just fine and that the funding the Pentagon receives is quite adequate. But is it?

    In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee (as reported by Military.com’s Richard Sisk):

    “We’re just flat-out out of money to address… immediate needs and provide the additional personnel and maintenance funding to plan for the future,” Navy Adm. William Moran said Tuesday in summing up the concerns of four-star officers across the services.

    “The Air Force currently is the smallest, the oldest, the most poorly maintained and the least ready in our history,” said Gen. Stephen Wilson, Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force.

    “Gen. Glenn Walters, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps, said 3,000 more Marines are urgently needed to bolster a force that is insufficiently manned, trained and equipped. In addition, the Marine Corps faces a $9 billion backlog for infrastructure,” he said.

    “Gen. Daniel Allyn, the Army’s Vice Chief of Staff, stated that only three of the service’s 58 Brigade Combat Teams (BCTs) have all the troops, training and equipment needed.””

  47. Robbie says:

    San Diego

    What’s your point? Kellyanne Conway, heroine of Trumplandia, was on FoxNews at 7:00 PM on election night all but conceding the race based on the exit polls. She complained Trump didn’t get enough help from the party.

    If you’ve got a problem with what I posted, then you got a problem with her as well since she was basing her comments on the exits polls.

    That said, I guess I forgot the number one rule of exit polls and polling when. When it reinforces what you want to hear, it’s awesome. When it suggests something you don’t like, it’s crap.

    The exits polls busted badly on election day, but they had been very good in 2014, 2012, 2010, 2008, and 2006. Given they seemed in line with the pre-election day polling, there’s was little reason to discount them or even provide them as information here in this forum.

  48. Tina says:

    Terribe predictions.

  49. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    Trumpism causes people to excuse bad behavior simply because Trump has declared himself a Republican. It causes people to disregard things they would have cheered about had they happened to Obama. I get the desire to want Trump to succeed because I do as well. That doesn’t mean I fend off all bad news as either fake news or fake polling.

  50. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    48. Robbie, how many posts in that week were in praise of Trump cabinet nominees versus ones negative on Trump, and feigning concern over his low Gallup poll numbers?

  51. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 12, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    47. Robbie, if you were a political consultant and made that bad of predictions. Your clients would inform you, in the words of a famous TV personality: “Your fired”.

    – Then I guess you would have fired Kellyanne Conway for basing her early evening election comments on exit polls as well?

    God forbid I would post comments from analysts in order to give people an idea what they’re thinking.

  52. Robbie says:

    Tina

    Terrible predictions are what you predicted in 2006 and 2008 when you said Republicans would hold the House and Senate and your various incorrect comments about Obama in 2008.

  53. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 12, 2017 at 4:21 pm
    28. Robbie, I would suggest not relying on polls the way you did on the exit polls on election day in November. It resulted in some very bad predictions on your part (have listed many of them below).

    – Let’s get a few facts straight here because revisionism is taking hold quickly.

    The national polls, as averaged together in RCP, were on the mark. They said Clinton would win the national vote by a few points and she did win the national vote by a few points. That Trump was able to win an electoral vote majority while losing by three million nationally is something no one ever could have conceived.

  54. Trump says:

    Robbie’s brain has short-circuited with too much sucking on Jeb’s knob.

    Not enough oxygen left.

  55. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    50. Cow. Know many military officers who often think Obama was intentionally weakening the military. He seemed almost hostile to it at times. It might back to his 1960’s counter culture past. He was more concerned with things like “sustainability” and the military addressing “climate change” than fulfilling the military’s mission of providing a strong defense.

  56. Trump says:

    When this creep says no one could have conceived, he is pointing to himself.

  57. Trump says:

    A combination of fake news and Jeb sucking is how you get Robbie.

  58. Trump says:

    How’s that 1948 famine, Jeb butt-boy?

  59. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    57. Its interesting you talk about the RCP average back then, yet now you only rely on Gallup. Why?

  60. Sheeple Jr says:

    Robbie- you need to chill,my man. Earlier in the thread,someone mentioned that it took you seven minutes after the Sunday News’ Shows to voice your so-called “concern”.
    Now for two straight days, you throw-out the Gallup polling numbers within a short time after their release. Do you sit by your computer at 12:55 p.m. daily and count down to Gallup’s release at 1:00 p.m.? If you do, please get help!

  61. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 12, 2017 at 4:32 pm
    48. Robbie, how many posts in that week were in praise of Trump cabinet nominees versus ones negative on Trump, and feigning concern over his low Gallup poll numbers?

    – How many posts in this week have you made challenging my views rather than celebrating all of the great things Trump has done?

    Here’s the thing. When I do praise Trump for something he’s done (like Gorsuch), no one pays any attention to it. When I criticize Trump, people got DEFCON 1.

  62. Trump says:

    So the national poll averages predicted California vote fraud? Big deal. National polls are as relevant as the capital of Portugal.

    How many polls predicted pa, mi, and wi? Which are far more relevant to the presidential election.

  63. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 12, 2017 at 4:44 pm
    57. Its interesting you talk about the RCP average back then, yet now you only rely on Gallup. Why?

    – It updates every day. I know Rasmussen does as well, but I am highly dubious of robo-pollsters.

  64. Trump says:

    Your praise or criticism is like national polls, as-wipe Robbie.

  65. Trump says:

    Nobody cares what you are dubious of.

    Stop posting and concentrate on Jeb’s knob.

  66. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    66. What do you have against the capital of Portugal? Its a beautiful city, the food is great.
    You need to travel more and blog less.

  67. Mr.Vito says:

    “Little George (hard D…)”

    What has he been up to in that barnyard?

  68. Trump says:

    You have nothing but fake news and Jeb’s dribble.

  69. Mr.Vito says:

    The capital of Portugal is “P”

    Ewwwwwwww…..

  70. Trump says:

    Nothing against the capital of Portugal.

    It has as much relevance to us presidential election prediction as national polls.

  71. Trump says:

    Beautiful capital of Portugal, elegant polls.

    Neither relevant to elections.

  72. Robbie says:

    The one thing I certainly discounted with the national polls in 2016 is they can be swayed by CA’s status. In a poll of 500 people, as many as 85 need to come from there in order to make the result geographically representative. Given Trump’s status in CA, that can really warp what a poll is suggesting. I do think that is happening to some extent with the JA polls.

  73. janz says:

    Back to the topic of Stephen Miller:

    He was ahead of my son in the same high school. Kids and teachers, alike, hated him, as he was always confronting them with their liberal bias and ultra liberal speakers. To counter this, he invited David Horowitz to speak, at the chagrin of many. Horowitz, however, became somewhat of a mentor to him, introducing him around to more conservatives.

    When the school discontinued doing the morning Pledge of Alliance, Miller went to war with the principle, saying they were breaking state law. Eventually, they had to reinstitute the Pledge, which was a teenage victory for Miller.

    Because of the animosity, though, historically existing between the ideologies of Miller and the community at large, when the local paper did a write-up on him assisting in the Trump’s inauguration speech, it was short on praise and long on snark.

    Basically, Miller has been a thorn in the side of liberals for a very long time!

  74. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    77. One of the most hopeful signs in California is a lot of young people, particularly Latino and Asian kids, are rebelling against the leftist status quo.

    They realize the Democrats in California want to continue the social service/welfare dependency of the people of color communities as a means of buying a voting bloc. Meanwhile, the coastal Tech/ Wall Street Democratic elites live like royalty, having exempted themselves from the state’s high taxes and over regulation. The middle class flees the state, which is looked upon with indifference.

    Clinton may have won a majority of popular votes because of California, but it is nothing to be proud about.

  75. Wes says:

    Regarding the People’s Democratic Republic of California, I’ll quote the great Anthony Burgess from his classic novel A Clockwork Orange:

    Yarbles, bolshy great yarblockos to thee and thine.

  76. Wes says:

    Janz, Hillary won 48% of the popular vote, which is a plurality rather than a majority.

  77. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    81. I am not Janz, but I do stand corrected. Clinton won a larger share of the vote than Trump, but not a majority. It was an error on my part.

  78. NYCmike says:

    “That said, I guess I forgot the number one rule of exit polls and polling when. When it reinforces what you want to hear, it’s awesome. When it suggests something you don’t like, it’s crap.”

    -I call BS on this. Most at HHR know how unreliable “exit polls” (Wes and MD come to mind). In fact, for days before the election, some were warning NOT to post any exit polls on HHR, because you knew the media would try to make “history”.

    Well, they made history all right! TOTALLY OT IT WRONG!

    And Robbie just keeps going back to that same well.

  79. NYCmike says:

    “That doesn’t mean I fend off all bad news as either fake news or fake polling.”

    -News is news, Robbie. The initial stories have been unreliable, and the media has made numerous corrections to those initial stories. That is why Mr. Vito started asking you to take a day or two away, simply to give your brain a chance to catch up to the new dynamic.

    The media is doing anything it can to knock Trump down, and all it has really done is show itself to be unreliable, except to people like you, who keep repeating unconfirmed stories for them.

  80. NYCmike says:

    #79 – Tina,

    Robbie TOLD US he did terrible. That is much more reliable than watching a clip for our own self. WE need Robbie to tell us how bad he did.

  81. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is comes!! Emergency spillway of Oroville Dam failing; Oroville ordered to evacuate.

    https://twitter.com/JaypGatsby/status/830942969595260928/photo/1

  82. janz says:

    The thing about CA’s lopsided HRC/Trump vote is the difficulty to check the validity of the registration rolls – who is a citizen and who is not in the final count. After all, almost a million illegals were given driver’s licenses. Voter registration forms are then distributed like candy. And, if you don’t get a form at the local DMV, applying to vote is easily done on the internet. With no voter ID, the many unmonitored pathways to vote, as well as a thriving Latino activism soliciting “new” (undocumented) voters to vote, some cite CA as being the #1 voter fraud state in the country – without any evidence of such fraud taking place, of course.

  83. janz says:

    SD, maybe that projected $200 million repair estimate for the Oroville Dam will be going up, with the latest news of failure and perhaps flooding. It sounds terrible! However, it always poses a risk to live below a dam,in a designated flood plain, a few feet off the ocean (like Malibu), on a former landfill site, or on the edge of a collapsing cliff.

  84. Bitterlaw says:

    Another beatdown of my basketball team today. The problem was that all my players showed up – even the bad ones. The other team had all of its good players and the three least talented were not there. Addition by subtraction in a league with equal playing time.

  85. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    87. Plus, they do not check ID’s when voting in California. You sign in and vote. There is no verification process.

    Plus you have San Francisco and other cities trying to allow voting at age 16. It is clear leftists want to destroy any integrity to the voting process in California.

  86. janz says:

    It’s going to be somewhat ironic when CA politicians refuse to change drought regulations, as they posit new ways to tax people to pay for all the flood damage.

  87. Bitterlaw says:

    Some observations.

    1. Trump is not really a Republican so I do not reflexively need to defend him.

    2. Normal people do not waste their Sunday mornings watching any of the talk shows. The one who do watch already have their minds made up one way or the other.

    3. When is Trump going to realize that he won the election? It does not matter if all of the votes in New Hampshire were fake. He is the mf-ing President and didn’t need NH to win.

  88. Trump says:

    When accepting the electoral college vote next time, the House should throw out the CA votes.

  89. janz says:

    #90 that is how they not only have dramatically moved CA left, but are also able to keep it there.

  90. Trump says:

    Squirrel.

    The moron lbitterlaw does not understand Trump. He is keeps idiots like you riled up.

  91. Tina says:

    The motor voter law should be repealed. This did not help. Ca has also lost control of the vote by grantinf dls to illegals. Once done, hard to stop illegals from voting.

  92. janz says:

    Bitter, I think you have scenarios backwards. Isn’t it more the anti Trumpers who refuse to believe he won the presidency? Or, did I miss some small detail?

  93. Trump says:

    Notice that you are no longer talking about keystone pipeline and border wall.

  94. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    88. One has to wonder if, after Governor Brown’s declaration that California was in permanent drought because of climate change, flood control planning was de-emphasized.

    In the first months of the rain, the message being repeated was the rain was insufficient to end the drought. Never saw concerns raised over the possibility of flooding. The state water board refused to acknowledge the end of the drought. Ideology may have trumped flood preparedness. Never heard a discussion of what do we do if the dams reach capacity.

  95. Tina says:

    I do not watch the sunday shows either. Trump appears to have think miller did well since he tweeted about it.

    I also do not watch cnn, faux, or mslsd.

    I do watch clips from time to time.

  96. Tina says:

    Moonbeam is an idiot.

  97. janz says:

    Tina, since our voting is basically processed through the “honor system,” it’s difficult to filter out who was dishonorable.

  98. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – When is the last time the winner was so fixated on the election that he won I don’t remember Obama saying, “Obvious voter fraud in Utah and Alabama cost me those states.”

  99. Tina says:

    Voter fraud is a growing problem.

  100. NYCmike says:

    Just watched the Miller/Stephanopoulos interview.

    I would love to hear what Robbie thought was so terrible.

    The little smirk that Miller gave at the end was a nice touch.

    Stephanopoulos was flustered.

  101. janz says:

    SD, CA, unfortunately always seems to be a day late, a dollar short, under budgeted, over-regulated, and chronically behind the 8-ball in preparing for crisises of drought conditions or extreme flooding.

  102. Tina says:

    I thought trump was preoccupied with repealing obumblercare, deportation of illegal criminals, etc.

  103. Tina says:

    Stephanjffin did seem frustrated. Miller is way smarter than the clintune stooge

  104. Bitterlaw says:

    Just because I am ecstatic that Hillary lost does not make me thrilled that Trump won. He was a necessary evil. I thought he might stop whining as a winner and just sign bills. Unfortunately, Congress has given him many or any bills to sign

  105. NYCmike says:

    I am thrilled Hillary lost, and the Trump is total opposite of Obama, along with the fact that he is willing to fight the media at every turn.

    The media is not reliable purveyors of news, and they are being called on it!

  106. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    98. Keystone is getting built; the discussion is over.

    We cannot afford the border wall. So it will become a long-term project. There already is a border wall along the border from the Pacific Ocean well into the California desert. It is ineffective — tunnels are built under it, people fly over it, and are able often to get through it. Trump should go back to the idea of a “virtual wall” using new technology.

  107. Tina says:

    Congress has not given him… bl, i thinkmthat is what you meant.

    Ky blue rino is drunk and the ither one is too worried about lifting 2lb dumbells to,govern.

  108. Tina says:

    The rs must fight the media, bush was weak and did not. If you fail to respond, the media sets the narrative.

  109. Trump says:

    There will be border wall.

    Take away California’s infrastructure money, and use it on the wall.

  110. Trump says:

    There will be plenty in the infrastructure money for the wall.

  111. janz says:

    Bitter,

    Trump is highly irritating in his repetitious, exaggerated way of publicly expressing himself. However, what I have frequently found is that when you dig around his words, mired in BS, there is usually a grain of truth hidden in a tweet, speech, or robust accusation. He is a balls to the wall president, who brashly adheres to the beat of his own drum, rather than to any kind of decorum one usually expects from either a D or R president.

    As I have steadfastly said, I personally don’t like his crude style. But, I do approve of many stances he holds, along with some of his gutsy meetings with friends and foes, alike.

  112. Trump says:

    Trump controls the narrative.

    That is how he became president.

    Decorum gets you Romney.

  113. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trumps is an actor. He knows ratings are everything. It does not matter what you say, just so long as you have the people’s attention saying it.

    If it was about substance, Obama would not have been elected.

  114. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Latest from Oroville:

    “Oroville under mandatory evacuations, could have downstream effects in Sacramento.”

    Maybe a downstream effect will be that Gov. Brown will be swept away into the Pacific Ocean. As he passed Alcatraz he will be heard faintly screaming: “Global warming is real; California is still in permanent drought.”

  115. Cash Cow TM says:

    That Oroville Dam situation looks extremely, extremely dire.

    If it holds it will be a miracle.

  116. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    120. In 1862 Sacramento was flooded by one of California’s periodic rainy years. Governor-elect Stanford had to use a rowboat to go to his inauguration.

    http://sfist.com/2017/01/16/remembering_caifornias_great_flood.php

    Am curious how Gov. Brown reacts. He was preaching climate change and was resisting ending California’s drought emergency. He has recently asked President Trump for help in the flooding. Given Brown has been blasting away at Trump, this must have been difficult. Trump should grant it – but hope he send a good tweet or two Brown’s way.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/11/gov-jerry-brown-asks-potential-nemesis-president-trump-for-aid/

    Wasn’t it settled science that California was in perpetual drought from global warming. What is happening now is very reminiscent of what has happened since at least the 19th century – years of drought followed by a year or two of heavy rain. He should ask former Governor Stanford about it (there are people in California whom am sure would facilitate the spiritualist contact).

    Maybe Obamacon can transform into Brownacon and come to his defense

  117. jason says:

    I was just going to say the Walking Dead was a bust until they mowed down a couple thousand walkers in 30 seconds.

    Awesome.

  118. Wes says:

    I just watched Bandwagon {Walking Dead). Basically you have a megalomaniac who’s declared himself a king while Rick and Co. try to develop an alliance with him. Oh, and some chick spent 90% of the episode standing mutely with folded arms. The only worthwhile scene was the mowing down of the zombies.

    I wasn’t impressed, but then I don’t chase down and jump on every bandwagon I can find either.

  119. Cash Cow TM says:

    If that Oroville dam breaks, that will cause the biggest flood during a drought caused by man-made global warming, ever.

  120. Tina says:

    Sacramento could be in trouble if that dam breaks.

  121. NYCmike says:

    I hope that dam is stronger than #TheBlueWall.

  122. Wes says:

    Did California pols treat their dams the way Louisiana pols did theirs?

  123. NYCmike says:

    Grammy’s kind of interesting tonight.

    I did enjoy when James Corden mentioned the #Grammy, or something like that, and he started getting bad reviews, but then there was one from @realDonaldTrump, saying that he was great or something like that. Audience laughed. Funny.

  124. NYCmike says:

    Also, Gaga was horrible, Beyonce was way too long, and Adele just about killed George Michael again.

  125. Tina says:

    If you rrmember co gress had a hearing on the louisiana dam that failed, premise was bush blew up the levee.

  126. NYCmike says:

    One other thing: Alicia Keys is smokin’!

  127. jason says:

    I wasn’t impressed, but then I don’t chase down and jump on every bandwagon I can find either.”

    Thanks for sharing.

  128. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    124. “If that Oroville dam breaks, that will cause the biggest flood during a drought caused by man-made global warming, ever.”

    It is a milestone. Sure Al Gore will include pictures of it in his presentations. Not sure he will use your description, although it fits.

  129. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Gov Moonbeam under attack:

    “Billions spent on highspeed rail we don’t need while we watch as our infrastructure collapses.”

  130. Wes says:

    In what I hope is a precedent for their upcoming primary selections, Democrats selected a raving moonbat over a more moderate-seeming candidate in the race to replace Mike Pompeo.

    Democrats must continue to go full Corbin this cycle to shore up their base and win. ::wink::

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – The only problem with cutting the walkers in half is they didn’t destroy any brains. Now there are hundreds of walkers who are really graspers or crawlers. Still cool.

  132. jason says:

    Didn’t think of that. They just doubled the amount of zombies.

  133. jason says:

    United Airlines pilot taken off plane for calling Trump and Hillary a-holes.

    I hope this doesn’t happen here, we would lose a lot of fine hedgehoggers.

  134. jason says:

    “United flight 455 was supposed to fly from Austin, TX to San Francisco, CA at approximately 5 p.m., though things took an unexpected turn when the pilot turned up while still dressed in her civilian clothes. Passengers on the flight told multiple media outlets that the pilot got on the PA and talked about how she was going through a divorce before saying that President Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both “as-holes.”

  135. NYCmike says:

    The CA situation is one which Trump better have some people in contact with Gov. Brown. If any collapse happens, the media will be juxtaposing pictures of him playing golf with PM Abe while towns get destroyed.

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump and Clinton really are a-holes. I wonder if one of them would speak at the next Maxwell Day celebration.

  137. NYCmike says:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/hillary-clinton-is-running-for-president-again-214766

    -Not gone? (I had to, since it is from Politico. I beat Robbie to it.)

  138. Wes says:

    In the category of eyebrow-raising headscratchers, J. G. Ballard, Anthony Burgess, and Stanley Kubrick were all men of the political Right.

    Color me shocked.

  139. wraith says:

    “In today’s Gallup track, Trump’s approval has fallen to just 40%”~~~robbie post 21

    How in the f–k can anyone still believe the polls after the last election??

  140. Bitterlaw says:

    CL

  141. NYCmike says:

    Personally, I don’t think it is a case of polls being wrong, it is a case of polls not asking the right questions, and not doing a comparative poll of Trump’s opposition.

  142. NYCmike says:

    http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/02/13/shoving-alinskys-rules-for-radicals-right-back-in-the-lefts-ugly-face-n2284892

    -Liked this line:
    “The less dumb ones among the lying dinosaur media are panicking as their influence fades, and Chuck Schumer is enduring such a non-stop parade of serial humiliations that if the Senate were a penitentiary, he’d be McConnell’s prison Mitch.”

  143. NYCmike says:

    KAC had a good reply about the SNL skit, which was NOT FUNNY.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/02/13/kellyanne-responds-to-sexist-snl-skit-n2285160

    “Inquiring minds re: #SNL: @jaketapper & I spoke this morning just before brunch time. No boiling bunnies on the menu.”

  144. NYCmike says:

    http://www.sondrakistan.com/2017/02/11/todazed-ca-facepalm-73/

    -Some wild pictures of that endangered dam in California.

  145. janz says:

    I wonder how the MSM would be covering the governing administration in CA – especially the governor’s role and competency in preventive measures that could have been taken to avoid the Oroville Dam debacle – if there was an R after Brown’s name? In musing about this, I was thinking about the flak Snyder endured during the EPA’s blunder in slow walking Flint MI’s lead problem in their water.

  146. Mr.Vito says:

    Gives new meaning to…

    Not worth a dam.

    It’s a dam shame.

  147. Mr.Vito says:

    I think it’s settled science that the dam is going to fail.

  148. Mr.Vito says:

    Someone needs to give a dam.

  149. Mr.Vito says:

    Introducing Governor Jerry Drown…

  150. janz says:

    Mr Vito, your humor is firing on all cylinders!

  151. Mr.Vito says:

    Sacramento is well-named.

    They are all about to be baptized.

  152. Mr.Vito says:

    This was supposed to be the emergency plan with the crying leftists set the city on fire.

  153. Bitterlaw says:

    The jokes are just flowing from Mr. Vito.

  154. Mr.Vito says:

    Overflowing!

  155. Bitterlaw says:

    Obama made the oceans stop rising. I guess lowering the water behind the damn is too small a job for him.

  156. Mr.Vito says:

    He’s busy organizing the community to block traffic while people flee.

  157. Mr.Vito says:

    When the flood happens Al Gore will claim the sea levels rose, but came in the back way.

  158. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Walt found the staff he borrowed from his friend Moses. He is flying to California to part the flood waters so they flow around communities.

  159. Mr.Vito says:

    How many threatened species will Jerry Brown kill off in the flood?

    Someone send PETA in to protest in front of the dam!

  160. Mr.Vito says:

    “Walt found the staff he borrowed from his friend Moses. He is flying to California to part the flood waters so they flow around communities.”

    NOOOOOOOO!

    He also used it to bring water forth from the rocks!!

  161. Mr.Vito says:

    Seriously, though, I hope the dam miraculously holds…

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    Interesting that Trump is the target of the first sentence in this part of the article:

    Donald Trump is yet to comment on the potential disaster.

    And amid the frantic evacuations, it emerged overnight federal and state officials and some of California’s largest water agencies rejected concerns 12 years ago about the precarious state the dam – which was built between 1962 and 1968.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4218388/Residents-near-Oroville-Dam-evacuated-flooding-fears.html#ixzz4YaQMpBca
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  163. Barrett says:

    Bitter, I agree…this issue shouldn’t even be politicized. 188,000 people are likely to lose their homes. Not a good time to be playing politics. Just get the people the help they need.

  164. jason says:

    Trump will be blamed for not doing enough in the first 2 weeks to shore up the dams.

  165. Mr.Vito says:

    “rejected concerns 12 years ago”

    Bush did it.

  166. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe they can just plug the hole with rocks. I heard that Walt has quite a collection.

  167. Barrett says:

    Well, Trump did say he was going to fix our infrastructure. But I was willing to give him two years…not two weeks.

    Whatever, CNN will have 5 alerts each day blaming him for this.

  168. Mr.Vito says:

    They may be too busy timing his next handshake.

  169. Mr.Vito says:

    Did they remember the poor, homeless, and infirm this time?

    Tell Mayor Nagin to warm up the buses…

  170. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently Joy Villa tried to make the Grammys great again…

  171. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 13, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    Interesting that Trump is the target of the first sentence in this part of the article:”

    Way ahead of you, Bitterlaw…….

    NYCmike says:
    February 13, 2017 at 8:37 am

    The CA situation is one which Trump better have some people in contact with Gov. Brown. If any collapse happens, the media will be juxtaposing pictures of him playing golf with PM Abe while towns get destroyed.

  172. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump is about to have a real swamp to drain.

  173. NYCmike says:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/13/disappointment-trump-rumored-to-be-preparing-to-resurrect-the-ex-im-bank/

    -This would definitely be a mistake. Hopefully, Congress will have something to say about it, and not let it go anywhere.

  174. janz says:

    More rain expected in N CA this Wednesday going into Thursday. Oroville Dam problems will continue.

  175. NYCmike says:

    Crazy how much rain there has been out there!

  176. janz says:

    Ironically, the weather gurus predicted this would be a dryer winter than the last one, especially in S CA….that certainly hasn’t been the case for either the N or S ends of the state.

  177. Tina says:

    The rain is scheduled to be here on wednesday. No rain on friday, but rain until next tuesday?

    We shall see

  178. BayernFan says:

    Wait was walking dead midseason premier last night?
    Also I thought miller did fine. If anyone ought to know about vote fraud in New Hampshire it would be George stephetc.

  179. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    There will be a couple of day respite in the Oroville, than three success storms will hit.
    Here is a description of the worst case scenario:

    “The erosion of the emergency spillway is dangerous because “when you start to erode the ground, the dirt and everything else starts to roll off the hill,” said Kevin Lawson, California Fire incident commander.

    “It starts to undermine itself. If that is not addressed, if that’s not mitigated properly, essentially what we’re looking at, is approximately a 30-foot wall of water,”

  180. janz says:

    The possible Oroville catastrophe is certainly making the news now!

  181. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Although I don’t want to see politics played in this also, there MUST be accountability.

    The fact is every several decades, massive rain storms hit California (for example in the past in late 1990s, 1970s. They can be traced back all the way to the before the major storms in the 1860s, which flooded Sacramento. It is a normal weather event in California.

    The rains and flow of storms several months ago clearly indicated this cycle was happening again. But Gov. Brown and his minions in state government had declared last year that California was in perpetual drought, and all we heard for the last few months was “the drought is not over, the drought is not over.” There was no preparation for what was a regular weather event. The reaction to flooding throughout the state was almost as if it was a surprise.

    I can relate all sorts of follies that took place in my area; the reaction was as if “this isn’t suppose to happen.” The fact is it regularly happens, and global warming theology does not replace actual weather realities.

  182. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Storms have snowed so much in California, Mammoth Mountain ski area will be open to July 4” – LA Times

    The horrors of global warming. Haven’t we reached the point of time the global warming zealots said there would be no snow on Mt. Kilimanjaro and the Himalayans? But through the valiant efforts of Gov. Brown as a climate warrior, California gets to ski in the summer.

  183. ssq says:

    There will be a couple of day respite in the Oroville, than three success storms will hit.”

    Success storms are better than failure storms.

  184. Bitterlaw says:

    Try to keep up. Global warming was supposed to warm the globe. Then it became climate change which made it more or less likely to be cold. It is a theory that can never be wrong – even when it is.

  185. jason says:

    “This would definitely be a mistake. Hopefully, Congress will have something to say about it, and not let it go anywhere.”

    LOL

    NYC wanted Trump to save us from congress.

    Now he wants Congress to save us from Trump.

    Sometimes its hard for me to keep my New Year’s resolution….

  186. jason says:

    Right…. climate change is climate change.

    It can get warmer or colder like it has for millions of years.

    But as time goes, the last billionth of a nanosecond of climate change is the fault of Republicans.

  187. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    193.. Meant to say “successive” storms.

  188. ssq says:

    I know… but no free lunch at HHR.

  189. jason says:

    Wait was walking dead midseason premier last night?”

    Of course. And Talking Dead and then the encore.

  190. JulStol says:

    200?

  191. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Oh here we go, the Oroville Dam crisis is the result of “Climate Change.” The fact these type of floods have been happening for at least 150 years does not seem to register.

    http://www.climatesignals.org/headlines/events/oroville-dam-spillway-overflow-february-2017

    Climate denialists of course raised false issues like engineering concerns about the dam.

  192. NYCmike says:

    I’ll take these 1 at a time:

    “LOL”
    -I am OK with bringing a smile to an A-Hole.

    “NYC wanted Trump to save us from congress.”
    -I wanted Trump to beat Hillary.

    “Now he wants Congress to save us from Trump.”
    -I want Congress to set the agenda, like the Founding Fathers intended.

    “Sometimes its hard for me to keep my New Year’s resolution….””
    -GFY, with a 🙂 , of course.

  193. Cash Cow TM says:

    man-made climate change

    Giant lame chance me mad.
    Hen came. Made giant clam.
    each meet a damning clam
    mama catching lemanade

  194. jason says:

    NYC at war with himself again.

    Some things never change.

  195. jason says:

    NYT reporter calls Melania a hooker, is not identified but “reprimanded” for the “lapse”.

    Imagine if a Fox News reporter called Michelle Obama a hooker and Fox tried to “reprimand” him for his “lapse” and not identify him.

  196. Robbie says:

    If Mike Flynn is let go as National Security Advisor, I don’t think it will be solely about what he did or didn’t tell Mike Pence. I think it will be this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. There’s a reason he got fired from DIA. He doesn’t play well with others, he’s too close to Russian interests, and his son was a real distraction with his crazy tweets.

  197. Robbie says:

    The crazy thing about the NYT reporter is it was Emily Ratajkowski, a liberal, who ratted the reporter out.

  198. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    February 13, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    NYC at war with himself again.

    Some things never change.

    -There is money in conflict!

  199. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The vote on Mnuchin followed the same pattern. He was confirmed by a mostly party-line vote of 53-47. Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia joined the Republicans.”

    Manchin again votes with the Republicans on a cabinet nominee.

  200. Tina says:

    Looks like hannity destroyed mika scarfarce.

  201. Tina says:

    V a secretary was confirmed 100-0.

  202. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. 100-0? Tina to call them a RINO and make up name for them in 3…2…1…

  203. Trump says:

    Apple CEO Tim Cook: Fake News is KillingPeople’s Minds

    It certainly has killed what could charitably be called Robbie’s mind.

  204. Tina says:

    Nope Bl,,barring tax cheats and criminals, i think the president should enjoy their cabinet picks.

  205. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    An evacuation has been ordered south of Sacramento as a levee has broken.

    https://soundcloud.com/sacoes/tyler-island-evacuation

    Meanwhile the I-80 freeway east of Sacramento is partially blocked by a mudslide. Gov. Brown needs to flee before it is too late.

  206. Cash Cow TM says:

    What would you say or think if the pastor at your church said in the last 60 days he has visited 8 homes and made 3 hospital visits?

    _______________________?

  207. lisab says:

    isn’t that his/her job?

    shouldn’t it be more?

    not that i know many pastors but … isn’t a major part of their day visiting sick people?

  208. lisab says:

    i know some clergy work in schools

  209. lisab says:

    when i went down south for my hubby’s job interview

    the ladies driving me around the area made a point of pointing out every minister’s house in the mississippi delta area …

    and i do think that had i shown the slightest interest in any of them, they would have stopped and introduced me … which is not a home visit exactly, but would have been an outsider visiting the pastor’s home … so somewhat similar

    ladies: oh and there is the first cathar church of mississippi

    lisab: oh look, a piggly wiggly! i have seen them in the movies like fried green tomatoes … but never in person

  210. lisab says:

    “Education must not simply teach work — it must teach life. W.E.B. DeBois,” the department tweeted.

    Hours later, the department posted a correction, followed by an apology which also contained a spelling error.

    “Our deepest apologizes for the earlier typo,” it read.

    The apology was taken down and replaced with the correct spelling for “apologies”.

  211. lisab says:

    Chelsea Clinton ?@ChelseaClinton

    Is it funny sad or sad funny that our Dept. of Education misspelled the name of the great W. E. B. Du Bois?

  212. marc says:

    per CNN: Michael Flynn resigns

  213. Robbie says:

    Mike Flynn has resigned after reports Russia may have been blackmailing him. An early report on CNN suggests David Petraeus will be his permanent replacement.

  214. marc says:

    General Kellogg will be action NSA/

  215. lisab says:

    **breaking**

    flynn resigned

    robbie should be here momentarily

  216. lisab says:

    he beat me to posting … and it just came on the news

    now that is an efficient concern troll!

    not every concern troll is watching the wires to pounce that quickly at 11 pm …

  217. Robbie says:

    In the future, it might be wise for the Trump White House to keep Kellyanne Conway off the cable circuit. Just after 4 PM today, she said Trump had full confidence in Flynn. Six hours later, he resigned. Throw in alternate facts and the Bowling Green massacre and she’s had quite a few weeks.

  218. Robbie says:

    Trump is meeting with David Petraeus tomorrow at the White House. Trump would be very, very wise to hire him to be the new NSA.

    This has been an amazingly rough start for Trump, but I do think there are signs Trump is getting his act together. For instance, Trump didn’t send out any crazy tweets today. All of them appeared to be done by staff.

    Every story I have read over the weekend suggests Trump realizes he’s got to get his staff under control and that things haven’t gone smoothly. As the saying goes, the first step in recovery is admitting there’s a problem.

  219. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Virginia federal judge made an order regarding immigration which was reasonable, unlike the politically grandstanding judge in Washington State.

    “Meanwhile, a federal court in Virginia issued a preliminary injunction on Trump’s executive order, but the edict only applies to the state. The judge in that case rejected Virginia’s request to apply the decision nationwide, restricting it to legal permanent residents of Virginia and valid visa holders who work or attend school there.”

  220. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats are now challenging any immigration enforcement, basically supporting open borders — that is something the vast majority of Americans do not want.

    Any weak claims that Trump had a bad start, are more than outmatched by the dismal start of the Democrats upon Trump taking office. They look weak, leaderless and look pathetic.

  221. Mr.Vito says:

    More liars getting canned.

    Sweet.

    What a nice change from Obama, who promoted them instead…

  222. Cash Cow TM says:

    “General Kellogg will be action NSA/”

    Kellogg.
    Damn.
    ***************
    I was hoping it would be General Mills.

    (get it?)

  223. Cash Cow TM says:

    pathetic

    tie patch

    As in:
    “The dapper but poor pirate wore a tie patch.”

  224. Cash Cow TM says:

    “In like Flynn”

    “Out like Flynn”
    ________________

    As punishment, DJT should order that Flynn be placed on border patrol and must nab 50 illegals in one week.

  225. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I kept updating about Oroville because as everyone knows, Gov. Brown is leading the California in its righteous opposition and resistance to Trump. Were even going to launch our own climate change monitoring satellites, because we faithfully know Brown understands climate science.

    And why worry about dams and water infrastructure, when Gov. Brown has declared the state in permanent drought. Why be worried about needed repairs to Oroville Dam spillway know for over a decade, or in a rainy year making sure that Oroville Dam and other earthen dams don’t hit capacity.

    It is now coming out bad it is: a couple quotes from different experts:

    “It looks like the DWR came within a gnat’s a** of killing 100,000 or so folks last night. And the dam is not safe yet. A wall of water is serious business. The state needs to shelve a few multi-billion dollar “fun” projects and take care of the basics for a few years.”

    I stand corrected by the facts. Failure of the Oro Dam emergency structure will no longer surprise me. I hope everyone gets out safely.”

    Then there is an Aussie quote, am not aware if it is accurate:

    “This is reminiscent of the total failure of government agencies in Brisbane, Australia in 2011. After a long drought, the government of the day had bought into the hype that climate change meant the drought would be permanent. They spent $1 billion on a desalination plant and tried to implement permanent water restrictions. When the (forecasted) monsoon rains started to fall, and heavily, the government sat on its hands and let the main flood mitigation dam fill up over 100% – valuing the water for this economic value instead of operating the dam to the flood manual. The dam is supposed to even out flow down the river and prevent flooding. But they let it build up wanting to hang onto the water. Eventually, fearing an overtop, they let the main floodgates open and intentionally flooded the 3rd largest city /urban area in Australia.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–11_Queensland_floods#Brisbane_River_catchment

  226. Tina says:

    Flynn to the pres and vp.

    Kellog appears to be the replacememt. I woukd not go with petreus since he is a bit long toothed.

  227. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/332308211321425920

    Trump has highest IQ according to this

  228. Tina says:

    San Diego,

    I keep getting a lt of facebok posts about the dam

    $25 billion to illegals.

    $700 million to infrastructure

    I am sure moonbam will start blaming trump.

  229. Mr.Vito says:

    David Duke endorses Keith Ellison for DNC chair because saying “at least he knows…”

  230. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/02/13/former-sen-kirk-trump-should-declassify-entire-iran-deal/

    -I see no problem, at all, with this.

    I would love to figure out which companies benefited from that “agreement”, and to whom they donate money.

  231. NYCmike says:

    lisab,

    Nice try beating Robbie, but at least we know is on the top of his game.

  232. messy says:

    just wondering….is the huffpost still having comments?

  233. NYCmike says:

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/31183/

    -When these kids get job offers, they should all accept, then pledge to donate half of their salary to a charity that helps the “underprivileged”.

    If they are so sure of their beliefs, I am sure it won’t be a problem for them.

  234. NYCmike says:

    messy,

    I get all of my news from HHR. I can’t answer that. 🙂

  235. Robbie says:

    This is going to be a rough week for Trump so he might as well get as much bad news and bad staffers cleared off his plate as he can. One thing that should include is clipping Kellyanne Conway’s wings. I saw replays of her morning show appearances today and she did not help in any way. I simply do not understand why she keeps making appearances when it’s clear she’s either out of the loop or just misinformed.

    The other thing to consider with this rough start to Trump’s term is candidate recruitment. Almost certainly, this is going to make candidate recruitment a lot easier for Democrats. Many of them won’t win, but it will force Republicans to spend money in a lot of races. Second, it may dissuade some top tier Republican Senate recruits to pass on races. It will be interesting to see how that plays out over the next few months.

  236. NYCmike says:

    Looks like Robbie has moved on from Bannon and Miller to Conway – maybe because of Valentine’s Day?

  237. NYCmike says:

    ” I simply do not understand ”

    -The whole comment could have been edited down to this.

  238. marc says:

    For the Democrats to win the House they will have to compete in conservative districts and recruit blue dog Democrats, and has Jim Webb shows that’s not likely to happen with the Democrats going far left Bernie style Warren/Sanders socialist.

  239. marc says:

    Chris Christie might be coming back in from the cold. The Flynn disaster is proving him right about Trump being surrounded by incompetent people and the roll out of basically all of their plans has been terrible. Hopefully with the cabinet confirmed this week, the grownups can take over and stop getting the admin in the news for all of the wrong, and most easily avoidable reasons possible.

  240. NYCmike says:

    marc,

    If you correct about Christie coming in to “straighten out” the Trump administration, that will really get Robbie’s goat!

    I am now in favor of the Christie Kreme getting an important job with Trump……

  241. NYCmike says:

    **are correct**

  242. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 14, 2017 at 10:37 am
    Looks like Robbie has moved on from Bannon and Miller to Conway – maybe because of Valentine’s Day?

    – Maybe it’s you who should take a break from commenting because your non-stop Trump sunshine pumping has left you with egg on your face.

    At least I have been willing to credit Trump when he’s made smart moves like Neil Gorsuch or the people he chose to run the various cabinet agencies. You, on the other hand, have simply taken an eyes wide shut approach to Trump’s continuous stream of mishaps since he was inaugurated.

    Trump did an excellent job choosing cabinet secretaries, but he has surrounded himself with inexperienced and self serving oafs in the White House. It was well known a year ago Mike Flynn was trouble. His connections to Russia were well known, yet he was still made NSA. Now, look at the mess he’s created.

    More broadly though, just look at the staff in the White House. None of them have any past experience there. Kellyanne Conway is a self serving, gaffe machine who apparently is out of the loop. Stephen Miller is a gadfly who engineered the debacle EO. Jared Kushner’s there because he married Ivanka. That said, I don’t have at problems with Kushner or Bannon for that matter. They both stay out of the news and keep their council private.

    This all comes back to a central fact about the campaign. Many who voted for Trump did so because they believed he was a good manager. Yet, he has surrounded himself with anything but a good staff in the White House and that includes Reince Priebus. Trump is giving a portion of his own voters a reason to believe they made a mistake and just 25 days into the job. That’s never good.

    I do believe Trump recognizes his first few weeks have been a disaster and wants to rectify it. I would encourage him to bring in a substantive person like Bob Gates to be his Chief of Staff. Order needs to be restored to White House or this presidency could spiral out of control before we finish the Spring. Republicans are already planning hearing on Flynn/Russia so Trump needs stabilization quickly.

  243. Robbie says:

    Roy Blunt has called for an exhaustive look into the ties between Trump and Russia following Flynn’s resignation.

  244. marc says:

    Robbie,

    Only one investigation will occur, and it is the one that is already on going, the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, no matter how much the Democrats and media want many more.

    Also how can you blame Trump for having inexperience surrounding him in the White House when there was a concerted effort by you candidate Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and others in the establishment to promote and Never Trump movement, who all but disqualified themselves from serving in a Trump Administration.

  245. marc says:

    Source: The Hill

    Wikileaks on Tuesday blamed a “destabilization campaign” by the media and Democrats for national security adviser Michael Flynn’s resignation.

    “Trump’s National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press,” the organization tweeted, including a screenshot of the press release from the White House announcing the President Trump accepted Flynn’s resignation.

  246. Cash Cow TM says:

    For Flynn’s job, besides Gen. Kellogg, I heard DJT is considering Capt. Crunch.

    Sandy Eggo,

    Any recent videos on the Oroville dam situation?

  247. Bitterlaw says:

    This is going to be a rough week for Trump

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    The problem for Robbie is not that he makes justifiable criticisms of Trump. He has every right to criticize Trump over any issue.

    The problem is that it is not possible for Robbie to conceive of any possible good thing that Trump might do. If Trump cured cancer, made enough free energy to power the world by using water vapor in rainbows, and unemployment was 0%, Robbie would still complain that he did nothing about the price of peanut butter.

  248. Cash Cow TM says:

    I will ask again.

    What would your reaction be if the pastor of your church reported that in the last 60 days he has completed 8 home visits and 3 hospital visits?

    __________?

  249. NYCmike says:

    “You, on the other hand, have simply taken an eyes wide shut approach to Trump’s continuous stream of mishaps since he was inaugurated.”

    -Incorrect.

    I took this approach: I am not personally in the White House, the media is adversarial to the point of being an enemy, and several of your stated “mishaps” have been conjured up in your own mind as bad.

    The American public is NOT paying as close attention to this crap as you are, and among the people who are paying attention, there is a group, like you, who see everything as a “concern”, as opposed to others who are waiting to hear “the rest of the story”.

    The world is a mess, any attempt to straighten out one issue could backfire and affect another situation. That is true of any Administration, and especially true after the last 24 years of foreign policy ineptitude.

  250. Bitterlaw says:

    Sandy Eggo,

    I thought Sandy was leggo from consideration.

  251. NYCmike says:

    “__________?”

    -Personally, I would think it should be more.

  252. Bitterlaw says:

    I find myself embarrassed by Trump several times a day. However, I am able to deal with it because I never have to hear, “Today, President Hillary Clinton…..”

  253. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Lather, rinse, repeat”

    Rinse her tear plate.
    Repeat her sin later.
    Please. Rather inert.

  254. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought that Jason’s llama was cool but this is awesome. For maybe a day.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4222776/Texas-couple-let-2-500lb-BUFFALO-live-home.html

  255. Cash Cow TM says:

    DJT in office such short time and already we have:

    –a CA dam on verge of collapse
    –Rooshan spy ship off U.s. east coast
    –an important NORK guy assassinated in Kuala (Bear) Lumpur
    –people still unemployed…

    The list goes on and on…

  256. NYCmike says:

    “For Flynn’s job, besides Gen. Kellogg, I heard DJT is considering Capt. Crunch.”

    -Colonel Sanders is too chicken to take that job.

  257. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bill O’Really on the unhinged left reporting…

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5322198152001/?#sp=show-clips

  258. Cash Cow TM says:

    NYCMike,

    #268

    🙂

    Good one.

  259. Barrett says:

    #249 – Democrats like Warren do a disservice to their own party. In an effort to “move things along more quickly”, they push further to the left.

    As they push further to the left, our “center-right” nation pushes back. The Democrats lose key districts because of this, and thus their agenda is not implemented.

    I can’t say that I support Trumps decisions all the time, but I can say that 2016 was the Democrat’s election to lose. And they did their damnedest to lose it.

  260. Cash Cow TM says:

    Lat time approval of congress was over 50% was from 1998 through 2002.

    I fear this attitude has given us usurping of powers by presidents, and the public going along with it.

    I also fear this trend will continue as Congress will continue to be gridlocked for next 4 years. Or more.

    the public feels Congress is ineffectual and takes way to long to accomplish anything nor to guide national policy.

  261. NYCmike says:

    “the public feels Congress is ineffectual and takes way to long to accomplish anything nor to guide national policy.”

    -“feels” is the operative word. “the public” is ill-informed, or totally ignorant.

    Also, it should take a long time to set national policy, so as to avoid irrational changes based on “feelings”.

  262. NYCmike says:

    “Good one.”

    -YES!

  263. Trump says:

    The fake news as-hole Robbie is dispensing advice.

    Go away, dip-wad.

  264. Trump says:

    The fu$&er has never understood anything, Jeb sucking has fried his brain.

  265. Trump says:

    The Robbie moron is part of the dem disinformation campaign, in case people are wondering.

  266. Trump says:

    Trump is triggering the right as- holes. Good for him.

  267. Wes says:

    Congress rarely has high approvals. However, low approvals rarely result in significant turnovers in Congress barring significant events bolstering discontent among the general populace against the party in power. We saw such occurrences in 1994, 2006, 2010, and 2014. Thus, I wouldn’t worry too much about low congressional approvals unless the national zeitgeist reaches a tipping point and makes significant turnover in Congress a fait accompli.

    Much of this will depend on Trump’s approval. Thus far, Trump hasn’t undermined support among his core supporters while Dems have done absolutely nothing to expand their base of support. If that holds, then 2018 maybe another 1962 or 2002 rather than a 1994 or 2010.

  268. Bitterlaw says:

    sssshhhhhhh. let’s see how many posts Trump can make in a row while saying nothing.

  269. Trump says:

    Congress’ low approval may not have much impact on turnover, but it does impact any accomplishment.

  270. Trump says:

    With low approval, congress cannot drive any change, cannot get anyone behind its agenda.

  271. Bitterlaw says:

    People tend to like their Congressman or Congressman and hate the others. Even if they hate their Representative or have resigned themselves to being stuck with them, it is tough to kick them out.

  272. Trump says:

    The Bitterlaw moron thinks he h made a point.

    Stupidest idiot anywhere.

  273. Trump says:

    No wonder he is bitter.

    If anyone was as stupid as he is, they would have died of neglect.

  274. janz says:

    #257 Marc, I think talking about a “destabilization campaign” being underway is so obvious, that it doesn’t require the Wikileaks medium to expose it. Between movements like “indivisible,” and “grab your wallet” — newly formed to create havoc first @ town halls and then in any company marketing Trump products — there are innumerable small and large efforts, funded by Soros and a multitude of “others” whose sole purpose is to undermine and weaken the current administration.

    The left desperately uses these insidious tactics in hopes of creating so many waves of leaks, raucous public dissent, discrediting innuendos, that it will become difficult, if not impossible, to unravel Obama’s legacy policies in a timely manner, in order to enact the very reforms people called for during the 2016 election.

  275. Trump says:

    Profound insight from the fake lawyer.

  276. Mr.Vito says:

    Gallup:

    Changes since election

    Trump is strong and decisive leader +2
    Can bring about the changes this country needs +13
    Cares about the needs of people like you +9
    Can manage the government effectively +3
    Is honest and trustworthy +9

  277. Trump says:

    And that is with skewed bias in the polls.

  278. Mr.Vito says:

    Gallup:

    Trump keeps his promises: 62-36

  279. Bitterlaw says:

    Stupidest idiot anywhere.

    Where’s Jason? I want my points, damn it.

  280. Trump says:

    Profound insight

  281. Trump says:

    Hey moron, what is the difference between tax and penalty?

    Maybe ask John Roberts.

  282. Trump says:

    Corrupt and stupid is no way to go through life.

  283. Trump says:

    The best judicial mind cannot figure out tax and penalty.

  284. Trump says:

    Robbie as-wipe, are you being to spread fake news?

    If not, you should be.

  285. Wes says:

    Congress is composed of 535 members with individual agendas. It has no personal agenda. What Congress does is enact or oppose the agenda of the President in power.

    The Dem Congress from 2007 to 2009 blocked anything GWB wanted while the GOP Congress from 2015 to 2017 stopped Obama from accomplishing anything. The GOP Congresses from 1995 to 2001 engaged in a hybrid of cooperation with and opposition to Clinton depending on the issue.

  286. Trump says:

    Tell that to Paul Ryan.

    Better Way, indeed.

  287. Bitterlaw says:

    Hey Trump – GFY. You seem to think that just because a judge disagrees with you, the judge is always wrong. I disagreed with Robert’s decisions on Obamacare. However, I don’t get a vote. SCOTUS can be wrong. It is still the law when they are wrong. Both are true.

  288. Trump says:

    Yeah, moron.

    That’s all you have, gfy. That’s your limit.

  289. Trump says:

    Penalty and tax.

    Remember your limits.

  290. Wes says:

    Roberts claimed Obamacare was constitutional because it was a tax. Of course the Constitution says all tax bills must originate in the House while Obamacare originated in the Senate, thus making Obamacare unconstitutional under Roberts’ own reasoning.

    Of course not being a lawyer, I’m not supposed to criticize a legal opnion even though I apparently know more about what the Constitution says on taxation than the Chief Justice of the United States.

  291. Bitterlaw says:

    Profound insight from the fake lawyer.

    Zzzzzz. I would give you Pennsylvania ID number but I suspect that you are a stalker so I will refrain from that. Clues to my identity are well known to the normal Hedgehoggers.

  292. Trump says:

    The best mind in the judicial firmament.

    The best, Jerry, the best.

  293. janz says:

    #281 Wes, with all the tumult going on at the get go of the Trump presidency, people may get fatiged by the overindulgence of drama. I’m not sure who that would really benefit in 2018. Will people just want to sweep out Trump acolytes, giving rise to Dem majorities? Or, would there be so much disgust for the Dem polemic behavior that everyone but their most loyal base would be turned off?

  294. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Roberts was wrong. Trump seems to think that matters.

    I never said that judges or lawyers can’t be criticized. I have said that pretending to have the same training as lawyers and judges is folly. In most cases that go to a decision or verdict, half the parties lose even when they have good lawyers.

  295. janz says:

    Roberts didn’t want to be remembered as holding sway over blowing up the controversial health care law, which is why he came up with such a tortured opinion siding with it’s constitutionality.

  296. Wes says:

    It will depend on how popular Trump is, Janz. Thus far, Dems are doing nothing to be an acceptable alternative. Of course if Trump is at GWB levels of support in 21 months, that won’t matter. As it stands now, 2018 is shaping up to be a fairly typical first midterm, partly because Trump is being reasonably competent as President and partly because Dems are going full moonbat. Personally Iex pect mild losses in the House and at least decent gains in the Senate while Dems are likely to have decent gains in governorships.

  297. NYCmike says:

    “Roberts claimed Obamacare was constitutional because it was a tax. Of course the Constitution says all tax bills must originate in the House while Obamacare originated in the Senate, thus making Obamacare unconstitutional under Roberts’ own reasoning.”

    -Wasn’t there also the simple issue that the actual word “tax” was not in the law, that the word “penalty” was there?

  298. Waingro says:

    #310, good point about governorships in 2018, Wes. I also wonder if they could at least have a mini-wave with state legislatures as well. That will be key with the census coming 2 years later.

  299. Waingro says:

    #290, Vito is that from the same sample Gallup uses for job approvals?

  300. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    258. Cow. Don’t have videos, but here are some pictures showing how badly the side of the hill was eroded in little over a day.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/766807/Oroville-Dam-pictures-most-devastating-photos-photographs-spillway-evacuation-dam

    You can see how bad it is. On Thursday the rain begins again, three major storms in a week’s time.

  301. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4221808/Officials-warned-Oroville-Dam-12-years-ago.html

    SD knows that the best coverage of American news comes from the UK.

  302. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Gov. Brown is now begging Trump for federal aid. The liberal press trying to run interference for him, but he is under attack.

    @JerryBrownGov requests direct federal assistance to bolster state’s ongoing #OrovilleSpillway response:

    Ben Russell ?@_birdman_89
    @FDRProgressive @GovPressOffice @JerryBrownGov @realDonaldTrump oh he’s the president now that you need help?

    kinthenorthwest ?@kinthenorthwest
    @FDRProgressive @OttoVonBiZmarck @_birdman_89 @GovPressOffice @JerryBrownGov said Trump not his POTUS-Why he Calling @realDonaldTrump Now?

    U have plenty of #taxpayer $$$ that u squander on #SanctuaryCities

    Citizens Defense ?@NewFreedomFight
    .@GovPressOffice @JerryBrownGov Hilarious! A week ago you were claiming independence and calling for secession. Put the bong down Jerry.

  303. wraith says:

    Perhaps the moonbat guv of kali will re direct some of the state funds wasted on the illegals towards fixing the oroville dam.

  304. Wes says:

    Wain, Republicans have 26 governorships up next year. 14 GOP Governors are retiring while nine are seeking reelection. Two are seeking full terms after ascending to the posts during incomplete terms, and one (Walker) hasn’t officially announced his intentions yet.

    Dems have three open seats, four incumbents seeking reelection, and two incumbents as yet officially unannounced for reelection.

    Indies have one seeking reelection.

    Barring a wave, I don’t expect Dems to win a majority of governorships, but sheer math says Republicans likely have a net loss of seats.

    Regarding state legislatures, I expect Republicans to have a net loss of chambers, but right now I’d expect Dems to net only modestly given the makeup of chambers and states they’re up in.

  305. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    316. The liberal American press is running cover for Gov. Brown. Their bias is incredible; am not seeing hard hitting stories on the lack of maintenance of the dam, or the failure to realize with the amount of rain coming it would overflow into a spillway that was never tested.

    Worse, Brown’s reputation as a climate warrior is now a joke, as are all the liberal press news articles about California being in permanent drought.

  306. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    318. What is happening in California now might make a Republican like Peter Thiel more competitive if he runs for governor. There is gross negligence involved in what is happening with the Oroville Dam, the Democrats are mismanaging the state.

  307. Wes says:

    Ironically Cali went full moonbat in 2016 and voted decisively for an elitist hag over Trump. Now Golden Staters are begging a man they voted overwhelmingly against for help in saving their state from a devastating flood.

    Hypocrites.

  308. Wes says:

    SDC, as A. E. van Vogt once said, people get the government they desire, even if only tacitly.

  309. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Liberals will always take money from the people they hate. They will beg Trump for money while burning him in effigy at the same time.

  310. NYCmike says:

    Those pictures are absolutely insane! What a travesty that these politicians routinely forget about maintenance budgets for the newest “government hand-out” thought of by so-called “progressives”. Disgusting!

  311. Bitterlaw says:

    If Walt would just drop his rock and mineral collection in the hole it would be ok. I told him that sending Jason with a herd of llamas carrying the rocks was going to be too slow.

  312. jason says:

    Stupidest idiot anywhere.

    Where’s Jason? I want my points, damn it.”

    He thinks you are more stupid than Wobbie aka Bushco*cksucker?

    Dang, I go away for a few hours and Bitter hogs all the points.

  313. Bitterlaw says:

    You can’t keep an A-hole off the scoreboard forever.

  314. NYCmike says:

    Would it be prudent for Trump to get some eyeballs/feet on the ground out to CA?

    All of the fault should be laid at the feet of those in CA, but the media will find a way to include Trump if a further disaster occurs.

  315. jason says:

    I think those counties in Northern CA went mostly for Trump. All 3 counties in the floodplain, Yuba, Sutter and Butte went for Trump.

  316. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Trump is going to get blamed anyway. He should go there now and release Federal funds. Let the Media say he did nothing while people watch him doing something. Set the narrative.

  317. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    329. Trump carried most counties north of Sacramento. Here is a map.

    http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/california/

    There is actually a movement in this area to separate from California and form a new state. If California left the union, they would stay, as would a lot of the south part of the Central Valley.

  318. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Brilliant idea to have Trump visit the Oroville site. If they want federal money, he should indicate he wants control how it is spent.

  319. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    At the very least, Trump needs to open up a tweet attack on Brown. A Trump visit would be well received by the locals who voted for him.

  320. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    330. Totally agree with Bitter. Trump should set the narrative.

    Great statement on a blog: “Do you think maybe next time there’s a drought in Cali they’ll use the opportunity to make the dams bigger and stronger rather than wringing their hands about how it’ll never rain or snow again?”

  321. janz says:

    Walter Russell Mead offers a much more reasoned thesis as to What Flynn’s Resignation Really Means. Fundamentally, he posits that Flynn’s personal attributes and temperament just did not fit the rigors of the job.

    “That was the wrong job for General Flynn. He is a passionate advocate, not a cold-blooded calculator. He’s a bureaucratic street fighter, not a dispassionate traffic cop. Something was going to blow, as an emotional and hard-charging square peg struggled to fit within the confines of a round hole. Everyone, including General Flynn, should be happy that the struggle ended sooner rather than later. No happiness was going to come from this mismatch—not to the President, not to the country, not to General Flynn or those around him.”

    As for Gov.Jerry Brown and the super majority democrat leadership in CA — the press will gloss over it and find a republican patsy to blame. Isn’t that the way it’s always been?

    I do think, tough, it’s beneficial for Trump to come out west, inspect the dam, and meet with disgruntled Californians about being tossed out of their homes due to dismissive maintenance on Oroville Dam. Priceless optics!

  322. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw, you wrote:

    “The problem is that it is not possible for Robbie to conceive of any possible good thing that Trump might do. If Trump cured cancer, made enough free energy to power the world by using water vapor in rainbows, and unemployment was 0%, Robbie would still complain that he did nothing about the price of peanut butter.”

    – None of this is even remotely true. I have written for weeks (review post 253 today for example) Trump has done an excellent job of choosing his cabinet secretaries as well as Neil Gorsuch. So to say I can’t conceive of Trump doing a good thing is just flat out wrong.

    If the White House, the House, and the Senate pass tax reform, regulation reform, and Obamacare repeal, Trump will have scored major legislative victories that I will be more than happy to cheer. In fact, he would then have overseen one of the most successful first terms in memory.

    None of this, however, excuses the manner in which Trump has run his White House since taking office. Rather than establish a competent, normal power structure where one person is in charge, he has set up competing power centers that seem intent on tearing each other down. And predictably, the result has been a string of terrible stories.

    If you feel my view is too harsh, that’s fine. That said, don’t say that I refuse to believe Trump can do any good because I believe the opposite to be true.

  323. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    336. Compare Trump’s relatively minor issues to Gov. Brown’s totally folly, which threatened the lives of around 200,000 people.

    The inherent bias is clear, which is why the those who support Trump are not influenced by the liberal press attacks upon him. It is ironic we have to go to the British press to get accurate reporting about the actual issues at Oroville.

    I was once NEVERTRUMP; decided to support him after he was elected in November, and am stronger in support of him now. Ironically, the the liberal press attacks on Trump are causing supporters to rally around him more.

  324. NYCmike says:

    “And predictably, the result has been a string of terrible stories.”

    -Drama queen. “CG” and Author would be proud.

  325. DW says:

    BREAKING NEWS:

    “Actor Harrison Ford was involved in a potentially serious incident on Monday as he was piloting his private plane, a single engine Husky, NBC News has learned. The 74-year-old, who is an experienced pilot, had been instructed to land on a runway at John Wayne Airport in Orange County, California but mistakenly aimed for a taxiway instead. His plane passed over the top of an American Airlines 737 loaded with 110 passengers and a six-person crew.”

    The Pilot of the American Airlines plane radioed the passengers to relieve them that this is Los Angeles, and Ford was just filming a scene for the next Star Wars movie.

  326. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    Pull your head out of the sand. Trump’s approval is in the low 40’s. It’s not because of me. It’s because of the haphazrd way he’s conducted his first 25 days. Here’s a quick recap of the self inflicted wounds he and his White House have suffered.

    1. He delivered rambling speech at CIA where he attacked the media and talked about the number of times he was on the cover of Time.

    2. He spent the first week arguing about the size of the crowd at his inauguration and even sent Spicer out to browbeat the media over it.

    3. He spent the first week of the campaign suggesting 3-5 million people illegally voted and then claimed people were bused into NH from MA to help Hillary. (if so, why didn’t they beat the R governor there too?)

    4. He issued a hastily and poorly written EO on immigration that quickly set off protests and losses in court.

    5. He attacked a “so-called judge” and then dealt with the PR fallout over what his SCOTUS nominee may or may not have said about that tweet.

    6. He drew an equivalence between what Americans have done and what Putin has done to his own people in an interview with O’Reilly.

    7. Kellyanne Conway referred to a non-existent Bowling Green massacre, urged people to buy Ivanka Trump clothing, and then said Flynn had the full confidence of Trump just five hours before Trump asked him to resign.

    8. He attacked Nordstom in a tweet.

    9. He told soldiers gathered a Florida military base the press refuses to cover terrorist attacks.

    Again, all of these things happened and all of them were either caused by him or his staff. All could have been avoided and, if so, his approval would be around 50%.

  327. Robbie says:

    DW

    It’s time for Harrison Ford to hang up the headset and stop flying. He survived an accident two years ago.

  328. NYCmike says:

    “Again, all of these things happened and all of them were either caused by him or his staff. All could have been avoided and, if so, his approval would be around 50%.”

    -And then he would call for another election to be held in 3 months………….?

  329. Robbie says:

    For whom the bell tolls?

    Earlier this afternoon, @potus45, @whitehouse, and Trump’s personal Twitter account all unfollowed Kellyanne Conway.

  330. Robbie says:

    I’m going to make a positive comment about Trump so let’s see how much play this actually gets.

    At least for the last two days, it seems clear Trump has turned his Twitter account over to his staff. The bombast is gone.

    Maybe it won’t last, but let’s hope it does.

  331. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rasmussen has Trump holding steady at 52%. Shall we again have to discuss that Rasmussen was more accurate predicting the November election than most other polls.

  332. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 14, 2017 at 5:57 pm
    Rasmussen has Trump holding steady at 52%. Shall we again have to discuss that Rasmussen was more accurate predicting the November election than most other polls.

    – No. Robo-polling is only worthy of being part of an average. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

  333. Tina says:

    Smells like rince pruvbus derailed flynn.

  334. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    347. Fox News has Trump at 48%. Reuters/Ipos and Economist/You Go were 47%. Sounds like your Gallup poll was an outlier at 40%. The three polls above had Trump ahead in approval over disapproval; just like Clinton was “ahead” of Trump by a plurality in the November election.

  335. Marc says:

    Don’t let the Democrats and destabilization tactics distract you from what they don’t want you to know. This is what they desperately want to prevent…

    ? Older Judges and Vacant
    Seats Give Trump Huge Power
    to Shape American Courts

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/02/14/upshot/trump-poised-to-transform-american-courts.html?_r=0?

    The federal judiciary is older then at anytime in history, President Trump has a once in a lifetime opportunity to reshape the courts of generations to come.

  336. NYCmike says:

    The comments are a bit…out….there……but true?

  337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    249. Trump knows how to fire people; he got paid big bucks on TV for doing it. A strong executive with a business background is going to do it. If your not open with the facts to Trump or Pence, your gone.

  338. NYCmike says:

    In those comments, McCain/Goober are not very well-liked……..he has been around for a longggggggg time.

  339. lisab says:

    Melania Trump thanked the actress and model Emily Ratajkowski on Twitter on Monday night for defending her against a reporter’s derogatory comment.

    Ms. Ratajkowski said on Twitter earlier in the day that a reporter for The New York Times, whom she sat next to at an event on Sunday, had said, “Melania is a hooker.” Ms. Ratajkowski, who did not identify the reporter, defended the first lady.

  340. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    352. The comments are a bit…out….there……but true?

    The left did everything it could to stop Trump from being president; challenging the electoral college etc. As far as the nation’s “spooks” plotting against him; its the military that matters, and they like Trump. Having the support of the part of the population that is heavily armed also helps.

    No one is going to stage what amounts to a “coup”. Things will contentiously rattle on over the next four years; then if the voters are tired of it, they will elect someone else as president.

  341. Tina says:

    The drat activist likes to cite the lowest poll.

    Seems like gallup is an outlier.

  342. lisab says:

    obviously if melania trump is called a hooker by a nytimes reporter, trump’s administration is off the rails and he should resign

    michelle obama was never called a hooker by a nytimes reporter

  343. Cash Cow TM says:

    Gallup is an outlier

    Pull out, sane GI liar!

  344. Marc says:

    So which one of the Intelligence Agency is leaking stuff to the media in an effort to sabotage this administration?

  345. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Gov Brown got his federal aid. Hope he thanks Trump.

    “Jerry Brown Says Federal Aid Has Been Approved for Oroville Spillway.”

    Below is a link with a great video of the work being done to shore up the spillway. There are a lot of good people working long hours to prevent a disaster. Rains begin on Thursday night again and continues as three new storms move through.

    https://twitter.com/CHP_Quincy

  346. lisab says:

    for valentine’s find someone that looks at you the way ivanka trump looks at justin trudeau

    https://i.reddituploads.com/c27868b6401c442fb6cf1d6321e07f43?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=259b2bed937b9159615128cd08520de1

  347. NYCmike says:

    “No one is going to stage what amounts to a “coup”.”

    -Did not say that. I do see certain segments of the government wanting to hold onto their power….not very far-fetched. Nobody likes change.

  348. Robbie says:

    It seems clear members of America’s intelligence community are attempting to bring down the Trump administration in its infancy. This is why it was such a monumental mistake for Trump to pick a fight with the spy agencies during the transition.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?_r=0

  349. Trump says:

    Fake news, as-hole.

  350. Trump says:

    It is the New York Times, dips&hit.

    Stick to what you know best, sucking Jeb’s knob.

  351. Mr.Vito says:

    “This is why it was such a monumental mistake for Trump to pick a fight with the spy agencies during the transition.”

    Sounds like they are exactly who he needed to pick a fight with… who is in charge here? how long have they been blackmailing our presidents?

  352. Mr.Vito says:

    Think of the absurdity of that statement on its face… it makes 90% of Bunu’s concerns valid.

  353. Mr.Vito says:

    “obviously if melania trump is called a hooker by a nytimes reporter”

    It was Carl Bernstein’s son.

  354. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/02/14/espn-sued-for-wrongful-termination-by-announcer-after-venus-williams-match-call.html

    I didn’t know he was fired for this… hard to believe. If we are lucky, he’ll put them out of business.

  355. Mr.Vito says:

    He should have just called her a hooker… then he’d still have a job (yeah, right).

  356. Tina says:

    It was the acting ag and cia renegades. The acting ag has been fired and the cia renegades, who want perpetual war in the me or with russia. Will be axed soon.

  357. lisab says:

    but melania was called a hooker

    which means robbie is correct and trump should resign

    and we should redo the election so hillary wins and the borders stay open and taxes go up and obamacare is expanded with a hillary chosen scotus

  358. Robbie says:

    Wrong. It was a terrible idea to pick a PUBLIC fight with the intelligence community. During the 2008 transition, GWB told Obama not to mess with the spy agencies because they’d get him back tenfold. Well, Trump has found that out the hard way.

    Obviously, it is unseemly and, frankly, wrong for a section of the government to attempt to take down a presidency through the use of selective leaks. In fact, if we saw this happening a country like Turkey, it might be reasonable to conclude there was an ongoing attempt to force its leader from office.

    If Trump wanted to clean out the intelligence communities, he should have done so behind the scenes. Instead, he took a hammer out and now he’s paying the price.

  359. Robbie says:

    lisab

    Where have I ever suggested Trump should quit? I won’t hold my breath for your answer because I never have. Stop claiming things about me that I have never said or even believe.

  360. Tina says:

    Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the results.

    See the resident jenot.

  361. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    364. “This is why it was such a monumental mistake for Trump to pick a fight with the spy agencies during the transition.”

    What a total joke. It is a typical NYT hit piece, absolutely no verifiable sources, just false assumptions and claims of statements from anonymous sources. The NYT has less credibility than the National Enquirer – its total slim and an embarrassment.

  362. Tina says:

    I suspect that flynn was brought down by cia fenegades, the ex ag acting, obumvler, and drats.

  363. Mr.Vito says:

    “During the 2008 transition, GWB told Obama not to mess with the spy agencies because they’d get him back tenfold. ”

    “Wrong” Robbie declares right before adding further evidence to my point. The agency needs to be brought under control, and these public leaks have exposed these agencies for what they have become.

  364. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    374. “During the 2008 transition, GWB told Obama not to mess with the spy agencies because they’d get him back tenfold. Well, Trump has found that out the hard way/”

    Do you have any legitimate sources for these claims?

    Your bizarre fixation on attacking Trump on all matters appears to be causing you to become unhinged.

    There playing your song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk

  365. Mr.Vito says:

    The agency will never come clean until it is exposed to the public.

  366. Tina says:

    Your bizarre fixation on attacking Trump on all matters appears to be causing you to become unhinged.

    Do not feed the troll.

  367. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Thanks for doing a bang-up job! You seem to be inspired by the absence of Author, MD, and “CG”, and aim to fill in for them as much as possible.

  368. Mr.Vito says:

    “Obviously, it is unseemly and, frankly, wrong for a section of the government to attempt to take down a presidency through the use of selective leaks. In fact, if we saw this happening a country like Turkey…”

    It is happening here, and you should be livid about it, Mr. “Unseemly”…. try “Treasonous”.

  369. NYCmike says:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/368415.php

    -Will Robbie defend William Kristol?

  370. Tina says:

    Kristol,meth is falling apart. 2nd time in a week. Total unhinged jebot.

  371. Tina says:

    BILL KRISTOL: LAZY WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICANS SHOULD BE REPLACED BY IMMIGRANTS

    Kristol,meth from last week.

  372. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    378.” I suspect that flynn was brought down by cia fenegades, the ex ag acting, obumvler, and drats.”

    Don’t forget the Martians an renegade penguins.

    The moral of the story is don’t lie to people if their is a strong possibility they were listening in on your conversation. That is what intelligence agencies are supposed to do. Remember when Angela Merkel went bonkers after learning American intelligence was listening in on her cell phone. If they caught Flynn’s conversations, they were doing their job. Trump needs to know when his aides are providing him false statements.

  373. Tina says:

    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which is conducting a review of Russian activities to influence the election. “The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”

    Yes nunes, i am sure you will get to the bottom of this crime.

  374. Tina says:

    No, they were not doing their jobs. It is a crime what they did.

  375. Tina says:

    And I have no opinion of flynn.

  376. Mr.Vito says:

    Kid Rock was named as a potential recruit for Michigan senate.

    Well why not? Al Frankenstein might run for President.

  377. Mr.Vito says:

    That was an autocorrect… but I’ll go with it.

  378. Tina says:

    Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

    This is where we are going.

  379. Mr.Vito says:

    None of this is going to increase the public trust in institutions or the elites.

  380. Mr.Vito says:

    “378.” I suspect that flynn was brought down by cia fenegades, the ex ag acting, obumvler, and drats.”

    Why not ‘republicans’? You read what Kristol said.

  381. Tina says:

    Yes, republicans too.

  382. Tina says:

    Rumour is that reince preibus was involved.

  383. lisab says:

    don’t be silly

    the trump administration’s antediluvian values combined with its grand guignol excesses clearly mean that trump should resign

    and that we should let a warren/franken administration rule the coultry

    it is what your republican principles call for

  384. lisab says:

    “Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets.”

    normally …

    but he was a trump supporter

  385. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a excerpt about how much data the U.S. collects, it is from a Salt Lake City Tribune article dated July 1, 2013.

    “The storage required for mobile-phone metadata — index files on each call with originating and receiving phone numbers, call durations and details on relaying cellphone towers — is relatively small, on the order of terabytes or petabytes. And that would be true even if Verizon isn’t the only carrier handing its metadata over to the NSA, and even if such court orders were renewed regularly.

    But then came documents on PRISM, indicating the NSA accesses large pools of American and foreign emails, posts on social-media sites such as Facebook, YouTube videos, Google search histories, as well as storage clouds maintained by Apple and Microsoft. Those data volumes reach easily into the petabyte range or beyond.

    Leaked details on Boundless Informant, an NSA program for collecting and harvesting Internet and telephone-traffic data of foreigners, contained hard numbers. The agency collected nearly 97 billion pieces of intelligence in March alone, primarily in the Middle East, a NSA document released by The Guardian showed.”

  386. Bitterlaw says:

    If Flynn lied, he had to go. If you get caught, don’t complain about how you were caught.

  387. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    403. Agree. And you don’t mislead the Vice President in a way that makes him lie on national TV.

  388. lisab says:

    concern troll rule #1

    step 1: remark on something that trump or his administration did — obviously never refer to “president trump” just trump

    step 2: say the trump administration made an unforced error that by implication is making people who actually voted for him and … oh i don’t know … work for a living … will suddenly hate trump and instead support the snowflakes

    step 3: suggest the trump administration should do something that is less effective at making the dems lose their minds, saying that by doing something less effective, trump will be better off

    for example,

    In the future, it might be wise for the Trump White House to keep Kellyanne Conway off the cable circuit. Just after 4 PM today, she said Trump had full confidence in Flynn. Six hours later, he resigned. Throw in alternate facts and the Bowling Green massacre and she’s had quite a few weeks.

  389. Mr.Vito says:

    If your own people set foot in the swamp, then it’s their problem if they get caught in the drain.

  390. lisab says:

    “If you get caught, don’t complain about how you were caught.”

    actually … spying on american citizens is very concerning

    i for one do not want to see rush limbaugh’s web browsing history splashed on the news 24/7/365

  391. Mr.Vito says:

    On the bright side, no one ordered a drone strike on an American.

  392. lisab says:

    On the bright side, no one ordered a drone strike on an American.
    ———————-

    didn’t we just do that?

  393. Mr.Vito says:

    Probably… but in the situation at hand no… just good old fashioned spying on citizens.

  394. Mr.Vito says:

    Roughing up? They do worse to drunk students that run onto the field after a game.

  395. Mr.Vito says:

    Good technique, though… the Eagles could use him.

  396. lisab says:

    “They do worse to drunk students that run onto the field after a game.”

    not the eagles … not even during a game

  397. lisab says:

    it looked like it hurt though

  398. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    410. Wow! Great tackle. He deserves the police man of the week award. Of course, Obama would have demanded an immediate investigation for police brutality.

  399. Bitterlaw says:

    Fake football fan lisab made a joke. Cool.

    The officer did a solid job. He wrapped up the offender and took him down cleanly.

  400. lisab says:

    “Obama would have demanded an immediate investigation for police brutality.”

    the guy was unarmed

    and the police officer never asked him to stop

    what if the guy was late to a protest?

  401. Bitterlaw says:

    Belichek has obtained a stolen tape of the takedown from another angle. Look for Patriots players to start shoplifting there soon.

  402. lisab says:

    now bitter, i am sure some day the eagles will reach the superbowl

  403. lisab says:

    oh wait …

  404. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The NYT’s. which in the last six months has run several stories about California’s “permanent drought” is back-tracking fast. This was in a story today about Oroville Dam crisis. No mention of the permanent drought or even climate change.

    __________

    “Mr. Mathews, the meteorologist, said there was not a straightforward answer. “I would say for Northern California, obviously we have flooding, so there is no drought,” Mr. Mathews said.
    But a hydrologist looking at groundwater in Southern California, where conditions are drier, might answer differently. And Governor Brown has not declared an end to the drought.
    “We go from several years of below-normal precipitation, and then we go to several years of above-normal precipitation,” Mr. Mathews said. “That’s basically how it works in California. It’s either feast or famine in the water.”

    Does this mean California does not need is town climate change weather satellite? Maybe the money for it can be used instead to strengthen the state’s dams.

  405. lisab says:

    however, i cannot really claim to be a fan …

    i like pizza and i would not say no to a beer now and again, if it isn’t too bitter,

    but the games themselves are just way too boring and long

  406. lisab says:

    “No mention of the permanent drought or even climate change.”

    well … let’s say the earth is slowly warming,

    higher temperatures will evaporate more water

    causing greater cloud cover

    and more rain

    which will lower temperatures, and cause less evaporation

  407. lisab says:

    i was recently reading letters from 1816

    we could easily see a big downturn in temps
    ——————————————-
    A Massachusetts historian summed up the disaster:

    Severe frosts occurred every month; June 7th and 8th snow fell, and it was so cold that crops were cut down, even freezing the roots …. In the early Autumn when corn was in the milk it was so thoroughly frozen that it never ripened and was scarcely worth harvesting. Breadstuffs were scarce and prices high and the poorer class of people were often in straits for want of food. It must be remembered that the granaries of the great west had not then been opened to us by railroad communication, and people were obliged to rely upon their own resources or upon others in their immediate locality

    A Norfolk, Virginia Newspaper complained:

    It is now the middle of July, and we have not yet had what could properly be called summer. Easterly winds have prevailed for nearly three months past… the sun during that time has generally been obscured and the sky overcast with clouds; the air has been damp and uncomfortable, and frequently so chilling as to render the fireside a desirable retreat.

  408. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    424. Interesting theory Liz, The problem is we are going to have to do studies, collect data, and provide proof of our theory. The climate warmists provided a theory back in about 1997. It had merit, particular as the world was experiencing rapid warming at the time Also there was a reasonable argument that CO2 did cause warming, at least in experimental conditions.

    One of prominent global warmist was Dr. James Lovelock, who played a major role in the earth as Gaia idea. Now Lovelock has changed his views, here is a quote:

    “The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.

    “The climate is doing its usual tricks. There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now,” he said.

  409. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    425. I had ancestors who lived in New Hampshire in 1816, and they wrote that it snowed every single month in 1816.

    The cold temperatures in 1816 are generally attributed to the eruption of the Mount Tambora, on Sumbawa in 1815 in the Dutch East Indies. It sent enough enough dust and ash into the air to cool the atmosphere.

  410. Mr.Vito says:

    What does it say for the left when Lindsay Lohan is one of the sane ones?

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/02/14/lindsay-lohan-defends-trump-have-to-join-him.html

  411. lisab says:

    Interesting theory Liz, The problem is we are going to have to do studies, collect data, and provide proof of our theory. The climate warmists provided a theory back in about 1997. It had merit, particular as the world was experiencing rapid warming at the time Also there was a reasonable argument that CO2 did cause warming, at least in experimental conditions.
    ——————————————

    SanDiegoCitizen,

    it is actually a well known if often ignored theory, called complexity theory

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_adaptive_system

    there is a lot to it, but basically complex systems have many interacting parts that often pull in different directions … and sometimes the same direction

  412. lisab says:

    SanDiegoCitizen,

    basically, climate is a complex system.

    it is NOT a linear system.

    that is why the alarmists were wrong 20 years ago. increasing co2 just will NOT increase temperatures linearly

    if you increase co2, more plants and algae will grow. they absorb co2. it may surprise you to hear that most plants are borderline co2 starved, because they evolved at a time when the earth had much higher co2 in the atmosphere.

    it may also surprise you to hear that the sun is 4% brighter today than during the time of the dinosaurs … thus 4% more energy is absorbed by the earth

    the upshot is, it is not as simple as most people think

  413. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    430.

    Thanks! Interesting info.

    Know some farmers who put CO2 in their greenhouses to increase their yield. Seems to work very well. Always am disturbed when people propose taking down trees for solar panels, since the trees may decrease CO2 more than the solar panels.

    Dr. Judith Curry’s has her “uncertainty” theory, we are are not sure what is happening. A lot of it is based on the complexity issues you talk about.

  414. Cash Cow TM says:

    UP AND AT ‘EM, SLEEPYHEADS!

    SEIZE THE DAY!
    \___/
    (*.*)

  415. Tina says:

    If he lied?…

    So, if this and that? What did he lie about?

    Nobody knows. Notice how Sally yates is in the equation here.

  416. PresidentPaul! says:

    “The Cotton-Perdue bill is a sign of the shifting tides on immigration in the GOP Senate.”

    Burt the usual democrat plants work to sabotage the bill for the democrats.

    “I oppose the idea of cutting green cards,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a member of the bipartisan Gang of Eight that crafted the 2013 immigration bill. It was approved by the Senate but went nowhere in the House.
    Graham says the wave of Baby Boomers expected to retire over the next few years and begin drawing Social Security and Medicare benefits need to be supported by a large workforce.
    “When you look at the 20-year demographics we’re facing, we’ll have an aging population and a declining workforce,” he said.
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) warned the Cotton-Perdue proposal would stifle innovation.
    “I just don’t agree with it,” he said.

  417. PresidentPaul! says:

    Why we have to keep the NeverTrumpers out of the administration and far away from public office.

    Bill KristolVerified account?@BillKristol
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    Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.

  418. PresidentPaul! says:

    Another reason to like Trump

    Ex-manager: President Trump was always a fan of Fedor Emelianenko
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    Vadim Finkelchtien spoke to Russia Today about President Donald Trump’s fandom for the ‘Last Emperor’ during his time at Affliction.

    Despite the failed venture, Fedor’s longtime manager Vadim Finkelchtein, who worked with Fedor between 2003-12, maintains interesting memories of his interactions with Trump.
    “He was always cheering for Fedor,” Vadim told RT. “I know that for a fact. He was really happy when Fedor beat Arlovski. Despite the fact that Arlovski was technically representing American in this fight, as he speaks good English already had a solid fanbase in the States. But Trump was definitely in Fedor’s corner. I saw his reaction after the knockout. He was visibly pumped and rushed to the ring to congratulate Fedor.”
    However, despite a positive relationship with the president of the United States, Vadim is weary of whether Trump will improve ties between the USA and Russia.

  419. Bitterlaw says:

    Just knowing that Kate Upton is part of this world makes every day a little brighter.

    http://www.si.com/swimsuit/model/kate-upton/2017/photos#19

  420. jason says:

    Dang, I was just going to post that….

  421. jason says:

    Pull your head out of the sand.”

    The Bushbot who is still attacking Trump because he decimated Wobbie’s candidate tells others to pull their head out of the sand.

    I love this place.

  422. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason:

    I’m still not sure why the Amish models were left out. Those ankles are HOT!

    http://www.enjoy-your-style.com/images/amish-women-swimwear.jpg

  423. jason says:

    Trump made a serious mistake when he attacked McCain’s war record and said he didn’t respect POWs because they were captured. It should have cost him the nomination, it didn’t. but its costing him now as McCain is getting his revenge. That WAS a mistake.

    Now let’s look at his other “mistakes” that Wobbie has borrowed from the MSM’s talking points.

    1. He delivered rambling speech at CIA where he attacked the media and talked about the number of times he was on the cover of Time.

    Zzzzzzz….he attacked the media? Wow..

    2. He spent the first week arguing about the size of the crowd at his inauguration and even sent Spicer out to browbeat the media over it.

    He spend too much time on that, but the media also tried to underestimate the size of the crowds. He should have made his point and then moved on.

    3. He spent the first week of the campaign suggesting 3-5 million people illegally voted and then claimed people were bused into NH from MA to help Hillary. (if so, why didn’t they beat the R governor there too?)

    There are undoubtedly a lot of illegals voting, I doubt its that many. But lets say the the election had been decided by NH, it’s not inconceivable there were a couple thousand illegal votes there.

    4. He issued a hastily and poorly written EO on immigration that quickly set off protests and losses in court.

    The President has the power to deny entry to ANY non-citizen, even those with green cards and visas. He was wrong to deny green card holders entry, it was corrected, but the fact is this should not have gone to court and if it did it should have been thrown out immediately. It is a political issue, but legally Trump was entirely within his power.

    5. He attacked a “so-called judge” and then dealt with the PR fallout over what his SCOTUS nominee may or may not have said about that tweet.

    This judge is a political hack who was 100% political and completely ignored the law. So called judge is appropriate, but he should have let Spicer say it.

    6. He drew an equivalence between what Americans have done and what Putin has done to his own people in an interview with O’Reilly.

    Zzzzzzzz……..

    7. Kellyanne Conway referred to a non-existent Bowling Green massacre, urged people to buy Ivanka Trump clothing, and then said Flynn had the full confidence of Trump just five hours before Trump asked him to resign.

    I thought we were talking about Trump.

    8. He attacked Nordstom in a tweet.

    So what. Nordstrom caved into pressure from liberals, Trump defended her. He is still a father.

    9. He told soldiers gathered a Florida military base the press refuses to cover terrorist attacks.

    He was right. Or do you still think Ft. Hood was someone having a bad hair day?

    Again, all of these things happened and all of them were either caused by him or his staff. All could have been avoided and, if so, his approval would be around 50%.

    Fox has it at 48… pretty close.

    Wobbbie doesn’t understand he can be critical of Trump without buying the whole MSM campaign to delegitimize him hook line and sinker.

  424. jason says:

    “The Cotton-Perdue bill is a sign of the shifting tides on immigration in the GOP Senate.”

    Hey Bunu, is Rand Paul still looking for a place for every illegal and for 12 million new taxpayers to come out from the shadows?

  425. JC says:

    Trump needs to come out and mass fire every. single. federal. employee. that was hired by the Obama and Clinton administration. Who cares if operations grind to a halt. It’ll be temporary (and probably save us a lot of money as we rebuild these agencies from the ground up). Sometimes you have cut off the cancerous arm to save the body.

    And then, institute a geographic litmus for new hires. For example, hire a certain amount of people from the northwest, from the south, from the coasts, from the heartland, ect. Part of the problem is that we only hire new bureaucrats from the same swamp of elite coastal cities (D.C., New York, San Fransisco, Chicago, ect). No one from fly over country. Just the same elitist a–holes as usual.

    In fact, we should remove some agencies entirely from D.C. Set up the DPT of Agriculture in Texas or some farm state like Idaho. Move the dept of labor to Ohio or MI.

    We need to decentralize our government. Right now we have all of our power and influence concentrated in a few selects cities, controlled by a few select people. This is exactly what our founders feared the most.

  426. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand Paul opposed the gang of eight amnesty, and he has been good on immigration most of the time.

    Plus I’m not a one issue person like Author was.

  427. Phil says:

    Yeah, the refusal to hit back at the MSM by Republicans when attacked has always irked me. This we have to go into a fetal position while the liberal MSM kicks the crap out of us has always been plain ass stupid. Intimidation by the MSM has always been what the left has wanted and counted on. Republican administrations scared to hit back at the media every time they face a hit piece plays right into the hands of the left.

    Remember how W let the press get away with all the hit stuff over Katrina at the beginning of his second term? He never recovered.

    Call the press out on their crap. At least Trump attempts to do that. Giving them a pass because you are afraid pushing back may anger them is nuts. The MSM already hates the administration. They are going to trash Republicans no matter what. The MSM is nothing to be afraid of any longer. People don’t buy what they are selling any longer. Screw the NYT and Washington Post and CNN and all the rest. The administration needs to push back and push back hard.

  428. Wes says:

    Trump could invent an FTL drive, make every American a billionaire, and eliminate the national debt; and the JEB!bots would still find media talking points to criticize him with.

    I didn’t even vote for Trump, but I’m getting tired of the JEB!bots’ obsession with tearing him down.

  429. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – YOU LIE! Robbie likes the Gorsuch pick. That’s all you need to know about why Robbie is the most fair and objective person at HHR.

  430. Wes says:

    John McCain was the media’s favorite Republican during the Bush years. That didn’t stop their morphing him into an evil elderly bigot in 2008.

    Trump.adopts the Chicago Way described by Sean Connery in The Untouchables:

    If they put one of yours in the hospital put one of theirs in the morgue.

    Too bad GWB was too much of an incompetent pansy to fight back a decade ago. We might not have had the disastrous Obama years had GWB actually had a goddamn spine.

  431. PresidentPaul! says:

    McCain wanted to turn the USA into a banana republic.

    Good thing he lost.

  432. Wes says:

    I see Bunu doesn’t understand either McCain’s 2008 platform or the definition of “banana republic.”

  433. Wes says:

    Of course it’s ironic when a cultic Paulbot decries banana republics given the fact that he wanted a political L. Ron Hubbard to be President.

  434. marc says:

    Too bad GWB was too much of an incompetent pansy to fight back a decade ago. We might not have had the disastrous Obama years had GWB actually had a goddamn spine.

    Wes,

    His former employees and political hacks have actively tried to sabotage this administration. RINO David Frum and doormat Nicole Wallace being chief among them.

  435. Bitterlaw says:

    Bunu does not understand much. Remember that according to him, it is unconstitutional for the US to have an army or navy.

  436. Bitterlaw says:

    I like that Trump fights back. I wish he would spend more time on real issues and let other issues like crowd size and why he did not win New Hampshire go. He won the election. Somebody should tell him.

  437. Bitterlaw says:

    Too bad GWB was too much of an incompetent pansy to fight back a decade ago. We might not have had the disastrous Obama years had GWB actually had a goddamn spine.

    Maybe not but don’t worry. There will always be another Democrat just as bad as Obama waiting to be elected.

  438. Wes says:

    Bunu should move to Costa Rica. The Costa Rican Constitution expressly forbids a standing military.

    Naturally Bunu is fine with the fact that Ron Paul was in the Air Force–a branch of the miltary Bunu believes to be unconstitutional.

  439. Mr.Vito says:

    “….I wish he would spend more time on real issues and let other issues like crowd size and why he did not win New Hampshire go. He won the election. Somebody should tell him.”

    Maybe he is standing up for The gracious Kelly Ayotte.

  440. Cash Cow TM says:

    HRC won by a total net margin of about 3.5 million votes
    In popular vote In about 5 or 6 counties.

    Los Angeles County CA
    Cook County IL
    Kings, Queens, Westmoreland (?) and one more
    (Part of NYC.)

  441. Phil says:

    GWB’s lack of a spine.

    Exactly. Anyone remember Bush’s press secretary? Scott something or other? The guy was an absolute lightweight. He was no spokesman at all……and Bush kept him on.

  442. Mr.Vito says:

    “There are undoubtedly a lot of illegals voting, I doubt its that many. But lets say the the election had been decided by NH, it’s not inconceivable there were a couple thousand illegal votes there.”

    A few weeks back, I linked a study that estimated a million based just on people who actually admitted to university pollsters that they had voted.

  443. Mr.Vito says:

    “Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.”

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

  444. Mr.Vito says:

    Just for an argument of plausibility let’s suppose the number is 6.4% and that the adult distribution is in line with the overall distribution.

    3% of New Hampshire residents are noncitizens… based on election day, about 1400 illegal ballots were cast, and Ayotte lost by 1017 votes.

  445. Mr.Vito says:

    I would imagine the adult percentage is higher, since most citizens here for work or study are adults, and the children born here to illegals are citizens.

    I would suspect the number voting is also higher than 6.4% since most people aren’t going to admit to a felony.

  446. Mr.Vito says:

    Just to run some numbers suppose it is 4% and 10%…

    That would be about 2900 illegal ballots and Trump lost by less than 2800.

  447. jason says:

    Right, and it was pretty close to being decided by NH btw.

    Take away MI and PA for example, that were very close, and you have 269-269. Take away the Nebraska CD that was very close and it would have been Hillary 270 – Trump 268 and NH would have been the deciding state.

  448. janz says:

    The issue of “voter fraud” has been around for years. Tied to it is the back and forth of voter ID laws as well. And, the Republicans and Dems are polar opposites as to how they see both issues.

    The Dems cite there is no hard evidence of massive fraud, and so dismiss calls for going through archaic voter registration lists, eliminating voter duplicity, illegals and dead people from voting. And, when voter ID laws are on any state docket, dems link such measures immediately to voter suppression.

    Republicans, OTOH, support more accuracy in voter registration lists, generating the formation of such groups as True The Vote to monitor and call into question any irregularities reported during elections. They also support Voter ID laws, as do apparently 75% of the public.

    Regarding these voting stances, alone, the dishonesty of the Dems is so transparent. Why then does the public allow dems to twist truth in the wind so often?

  449. Bitterlaw says:

    Right, and it was pretty close to being decided by NH btw.

    I agree. But it was not decided by NH. Trump can let others discuss and investigate it while he serves as President.

  450. NYCmike says:

    “Plus I’m not a one issue person like Author was.”

    -Ok, that was a good comeback by Bunu. Ouch!

  451. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    Nice response to Robbie’s list. I was going to do something similar, but then I decided to concentrate on his line about the favorability %.

  452. NYCmike says:

    Man, that was painful!

  453. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    February 15, 2017 at 9:50 am
    Trump could invent an FTL drive, make every American a billionaire, and eliminate the national debt; and the JEB!bots would still find media talking points to criticize him with.
    I didn’t even vote for Trump, but I’m getting tired of the JEB!bots’ obsession with tearing him down.

    – Total crap. Despite what you and Bitterlaw believe, I have repeatedly praised Trump for his cabinet selections like Mattis, Kelly, Pruitt, and Tillerson. I have also offered effusive praise for Gorsuch. If I was as dead set against Trump as HHR chorus believes, would I consistently praise him for it?

    On the other hand, I am not going to just whistle past the graveyard as Trump commits unforced error after unforced error. So far, he’s running his White House just like his campaign and that’s not sustainable. The campaign is over and Hillary is no longer his foil. If Dave wants to convert this comment section into a “happy thoughts” place only, then so be it. Until he does, I’m going to point out the good and the bad, as I see it, of Trump’s administration.

    If Trump ever gets around to offering legislation for tax reform or Obamacare repeal, you can bet I’ll support it. He hasn’t done that yet. So far, he’s just made nominations, issued EO’s that have sparked court battles, tweeted, and had to fire his controversial NSA after just 25 days.

  454. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    February 15, 2017 at 8:52 am
    Pull your head out of the sand.”
    The Bushbot who is still attacking Trump because he decimated Wobbie’s candidate tells others to pull their head out of the sand.
    I love this place.

    – Meanwhile, your great hope from the 2016 race, Marco Rubio, mocked Trump’s hand size, suggested Trump wet his pants in a debate, sold #neverTrump swag on his website, and then endorsed him four weeks later.

    So I guess Trump decimated poor Liddle Marco as well.

  455. Robbie says:

    Here’s one bit of praise for Trump most here might be surprised to read from me. I believe Steve Bannon, for the most part, has been a good aid for Trump. He brought some semblance of order to Trump’s campaign and I think he has been pretty wise in the way he has operated in the White House. He’s avoided the press and he has been behind some of Trump’s most impressive appointments.

  456. NYCmike says:

    #474 is in contrast to a multitude of comments deriding Bannon as terrible. You were mentioning him, along with Miller, as the main culprits in most of his “unforced errors”, as you and the media call them.

  457. NYCmike says:

    “If Trump ever gets around to offering legislation for tax reform or Obamacare repeal, you can bet I’ll support it.”

    -Screw waiting for Trump to do this!

    Ryan and Mitch are from the same party. If they can’t get together and agree on which bills to put forward, get out of the way for people who will. I bet the HFC and Senators like Cruz, Lee, Scott and their ilk could get plenty of legislation to the floor for votes.

  458. Wes says:

    Mike acts as if Congress passes key legislation in a couple of weeks. I wonder if he knows either the House or the Senate has to draft a bill and get it through committee before voting on it on the floor and, should it pass there, sending it to the President.

  459. Trump says:

    You morons still taking the Jeb coc$sucking fake news artist Robbie seriously?

    The dic-$wad is a walking retard in action. This hateful, bile-filled piece of cra$ has proven to be an extreme example of low information dou$che. Just look at his history.

    And I’d like to know how Trump offers legislation. I don’t think he is in congress.

    Ryan is in love with Obamacare taxes. Why would he advance legislation to repeal it?

  460. Trump says:

    I know Trump is superman, but should he be doing Ryan’s job too?

  461. Trump says:

    Hey douc$che bag Robbie, how’s the brokered convention coming? Will the Jeb retard make it on nth ballot?

  462. Trump says:

    Robbie is nothing more than a fake news flinging monkey, hoping somehow something sticks.

  463. Mr.Vito says:

    “You morons still taking the Jeb coc$sucking fake news artist Robbie seriously?”

    Yeah. We’re all really singing his praises.

  464. Mr.Vito says:

    And he actually tries to make points, good or bad, that make a conversation, unlike you.

  465. Mr.Vito says:

    “wonder if he knows either the House or the Senate has to draft a bill and get it through committee before voting on it on the floor…”

    In fairness, they could have had most of it written months ago, except they expected Trump to lose…

  466. NYCmike says:

    “Mike acts”

    -I am sure Wes knows I was responding to Robbie’s statement “If Trump ever gets around to offering legislation…..”. He is NOT stupid.

    That said, going thru all of the steps necessary for a bill to become a law should be communicated to the voters, the citizens, the media, especially now, at the beginning of a 2-year term.

    Do like Scott Walker:

    Hit early, Hit hard, and hit often!

    BOLDNESS, combined with good policy, WINS!

    (see Corbett, ex-Governor of PA for the opposite lesson)

  467. NYCmike says:

    “In fairness, they could have had most of it written months ago, except they expected Trump to lose…”

    -Exactly. In fact, since they have had the House and Senate since 2015, they should have had ALL of these bills ready to go, along with the fact that Tom Price had an Obamacare alternative back in 2009 (I think that was the year).

  468. NYCmike says:

    As we chanted on the baseball fields in grade school:

    Action Action We Want Action! A C T clapclapclap I O N clapclapclap Action Action We Want Action! (repeat)

  469. NYCmike says:

    “Robbie is nothing more than a fake news flinging monkey”

    -Does Walt know that the monkeys got into the news business? That might really freak him out!

  470. Robbie says:

    Fake News Alert!

    McConnell tells Fred Barnes Trump’s approval would be 10-15 points higher if he stayed on message.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2006830

  471. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    #474 is in contrast to a multitude of comments deriding Bannon as terrible. You were mentioning him, along with Miller, as the main culprits in most of his “unforced errors”, as you and the media call them.

    – I chided Bannon, and rightly so, for his advice that Trump quickly sign the EO on immigration that was clearly not vetted in an appropriate manner.

    If you’ll notice, the steady stream of EO’s has slowed since then. It appears many of Trump’s staff understood the process that produced that immigration EO needed to be reformed.

    Now, Trump has released EO’s on regulation reduction and Obamacare that have been widely praised. The one on regulation reduction was even praised by Cass Sunstein.

  472. Robbie says:

    Vice Admiral Harward, a protégé of Mattis and former SEAL, is expected to accept Trump’s offer to be NSA today. The holdup appears to be over the remaining staff on the NSC that Flynn hired. Harward wants to clean house. Some in the White House want to show loyalty to Flynn’s people.

  473. Bitterlaw says:

    I think we could all use a break. Baby goats in pyjamas!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfxUt9UM0nc

  474. Robbie says:

    Andy Puzder is expected to withdraw his nomination to be Labor Secretary today.

  475. Robbie says:

    Tom Winter
    Verified account
    ?@Tom_Winter
    Follow

    More
    NBC’s Pete Williams reports (as we have all along) that investigators have found no collusion between Trump campaign and contacts in Russia.

  476. Bitterlaw says:

    This hateful, bile-filled piece of cra$ has proven to be an extreme example of low information dou$che.

    And the winner of the Pot Calling the Kettle Black Award goes to…Trump!

  477. Bitterlaw says:

    I have had many fights with Robbie but poster Trump can suck it. Robbie says what he believes. Poster Trump just hurls curses and insults.

  478. Trump says:

    And fu$& you too, bitter.

    Morons sticking together.

  479. Trump says:

    No wonder the idiots find each other enlightening.

  480. Trump says:

    You two really race to the bottom.

  481. Trump says:

    Mcconnel says something to a no-name reporter, and the dip-s$&t thinks it’s gospel.

  482. NYCmike says:

    D +1

  483. Mr.Vito says:

    “McConnell tells Fred Barnes Trump’s approval would be 10-15 points higher if he stayed on message.”

    Not fake news.

    “Trump’s approval would be 10-15 points higher if he stayed on message.”

    Fake news.

    It’s not difficult.

  484. Bitterlaw says:

    And fu$& you too, bitter.

    Open the trophy case, Jason. I need another shelf.

  485. Trump says:

    To you, it seems to be difficult. Penalty and tax.

    Propagating gossip = fake news.

    It’s not difficult.

  486. Robbie says:

    Fred Barnes was one of three panelists chosen to ask questions of Reagan and Mondale in the first presidential debate in 1984. On top of that, he was part of the original panel group on Brit Hume’s Special Report. Every night, he, Mort Kondracke, and Mara Liasson offered their thoughts on politics from early 1998 until late in 2008. On top of that, he co-founded Weekly Standard with Bill Kristol some 20 years ago.

    But yeah, he’s a no-name.

  487. Wes says:

    In 487, Mike admits to having the clap.

    That’s rather…disturbing, Mike.

  488. Trump says:

    Why ain’t I 50 points ahead?

  489. Trump says:

    Only to morons like you is Fred Barnes relevant.

    His opinion is like any one else’s . Like an as-hole, everyone has one.

  490. Wes says:

    I’m going to play Robbie’s advocate here and say Robbie mentioned nothing about whether or not Barnes is relevant. He merely mentioned Barnes’ name and said Barnes is not a no-name.

    Relevance is a completely separate issue.

  491. Mr.Vito says:

    “To you, it seems to be difficult. Penalty and tax.”

    Is he talking to me or you, Mr.Bitter… I guess you since I didn’t say anything to him, and the penalty tax deal is your line… doesn’t really matter.

  492. Wes says:

    For the record, I think Barnes is an out-of-touch inside-the-Beltway type strongly advocating wrongheaded policies like open borders, excessive federal spending, and jingoism.

    He may be wrong on all counts, but as a 40-year veteran of the media, conservative think tanks, and a nationally distributed news magazine, he’s far from a no-name.

    His relevance as a force behind current political thought is, however, questionable.

  493. Mr.Vito says:

    Barnes is not a no name… and he didn’t give an opinion, McConnell did.

    Kristol is a no name to me now as far as I’m concerned.

  494. Waingro says:

    Oh please run her, Dems. I dare you.

    Marcus Hawkins Verified account
    ?@HawkinsUSA

    Warren is less likable than Hillary. She trails Trump in a not-at-all-too-early 2020 poll, 42-36% http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015a-418d-d693-abda-e7cdd76e0000

  495. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – Trump seems to think that I own Roberts Obamacare decision even though I stated many times that I disagree with it. We are dealing with Trump so I don’t expect much.

  496. Mr.Vito says:

    “Mike admits to having the clap.
    That’s rather…disturbing, Mike.”

    Guess he should have been choosier about the A-C-T-I-O-N.

  497. Mr.Vito says:

    “Oh please run her, Dems. I dare you.”

    That’s what was said about Trump… someday people will stop these wishing games.

  498. Mr.Vito says:

    “We are dealing with Trump so I don’t expect much.”

    Too bad we can’t get the real Trump… it would be a much pithier discussion.

  499. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kareem-abdul-jabbar-how-la-la-land-misleads-race-romance-jazz-975786

    Hollywood steps in it more than Walt does chasing Cash Cow back into the barn.

  500. Waingro says:

    #516, touche. But believe me I know Fauxahauntus well. She’s not even that well liked in Mass. where she only beat Scott Brown by 8 points in a POTUS year.

    I just don’t see how she resonates beyond her crazy left progressive bubble.

  501. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    And think, we could have lost 100,000 people near Oroville because Gov. Brown believes in the global warming cult. The Antarctic has been gaining ice also.
    __________

    “Regional cooling caused recent New Zealand glacier advances in a period of global warming. Nature Communications, February 2017

    “While this sequence of climate variability and its effect on New Zealand glaciers is unusual on a global scale, it remains consistent with a climate system that is being modified by humans” “

  502. Wes says:

    Vito, in 2012, McCaskill wanted Akin to be her opponent. Republicans granted her wish.

  503. Mr.Vito says:

    McCaskill dwarves to lose for what she did to sabotage that primary.

  504. Mr.Vito says:

    *deserves

    My apologies to MD

  505. Mr.Vito says:

    There are no counterexamples to man-made climate change… every outcome is proof of its existence.

    If data is fabricated, it is because of the effect of man-made climate change.

  506. NYCmike says:

    “My apologies to MD”

    -I’ll try to get this on Author’s Twitter account, where a certain M…..D.F….. has been posting here and there……

  507. Mr.Vito says:

    It is refreshing that the left now believes Trump is the biggest threat to the future of the world instead of climate change.

    That what climate change wants them to think.

    MU HA HA HA HA!

  508. Mr.Vito says:

    Was it the NSA?

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-end-obama-administration-gave-nsa-broad-new-powers/

    “In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.”

  509. Mr.Vito says:

    In Waingro’s poll,

    Trump favorable 49-46

  510. NYCmike says:

    I am waiting for “CG” to come by and tell us how Trump offended Jews, Israel, and all morally-correct-thinking Americans when he met with Netanyahu today.

  511. NYCmike says:

    “Trump favorable 49-46”

    -You must have a typo. I am sure it is more like this:

    “Trump favorable 39-56”

  512. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump favorable 39-56”

    Well, maybe he was on message that day, so it came out 10-15 points higher.

  513. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/labor-nominee-puzder-drops-out/article/2614920

    -Don’t really know much about him……the ex-wife tried to defend him, but the media would not let her past actions remain in the past, despite her pleas for them to do so.

  514. Mr.Vito says:

    He should pick Scott Walker as a replacement.

  515. Robbie says:

    According to CBS, Harward is still negotiating with the White House over the NSA position. The hang up? Trump told Fox News personality KT McFarland she could stay on in the number 2 spot. Harward wants to clean house.

    Honestly, why in the world is KT McFarland the second in command at the National Security Council?

  516. Bitterlaw says:

    I was listening to the BBC. They were freaking out over Trump saying that he favored whatever the Israelis and Palestinians could work out as a peace deal. He did not care if it was a one state or two state solution. The analysts said this would bring chaos to the region. Really? It is so calm right now.

  517. Mr.Vito says:

    Saying he is okay with whatever works for the Palestinians and Israel to live in peace WILL bring chaos to the globalist Jew-haters.

    They only want the the peace that thwy think comes from obliterating the Jews… because the Muslim countries of the region have done such a bang up job getting along with each other.

  518. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie is starting to sound like the playground troublemaker…

    Jennie told Susy that Billy said to Milly that they were BFFS even though Susy told Bobbie that she and Billy were going to be BFFS forever and always. And Jennie says Bobbie is a stinkerface…

  519. Bitterlaw says:

    Bobbie is a stinkerface.

    GFY, Mr. Vito.

  520. Mr.Vito says:

    My cousin Bobbie Sock really does have a stinky face.

  521. jason says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 15, 2017 at 12:06 pm

    jason,

    Nice response to Robbie’s list. I was going to do something similar, but then I decided to concentrate on his line about the favorability %.
    NYCmike says:
    February 15, 2017 at 12:06 pm

    Man, that was painful!”

    I will survive this, others have tried to besmirch my reputation by agreeing with me and failed.

  522. jason says:

    So I guess Trump decimated poor Liddle Marco as well.”

    Not really, but Little Marco did destroy Clear the Field Jeb in the best takedown of all the debates.

    Rubio was done in by Christie, not Trump. And Rubio won most of the debates, Jeb didn’t win any on his way to spending $200 million for 3 delegates.

    But feel free to keep looking for Jeb’s real killer….

  523. jason says:

    And of course, I have accepted the fact Rubio didn’t win.

    I am not here attacking Trump because I am still pining away for Rubio.

    You need to man up and grow up.

  524. Tina says:

    Congress needs to investigate the illegal wiretapping of transition team officials.

  525. Tina says:

    Look at the drat troll, first it was flynn, then kt mcfarland, and the. Kac.

    Mcfarland is not a neo con aka a bush bot.

  526. Tina says:

    So ted kennedy was never t prosecuted for the logan act violation?

    He colluded with the soviets. In 84.

  527. Tina says:

    Jim acosta, head of fake news touted by jebot 2, is mad that he is not getting to ask any questions. Gee, I womder why.

  528. Cash Cow TM says:

    news flinging monkey

    we skinning fly gnome

  529. Tina says:

    Wno authorized the illegal wiretap?

  530. Walt says:

    To bed at 12:15 this morning.

    Up at 4:50 a.m.

    At job site by 6:10 a.m.

    Job done at 2 p.m.

    Drive home.
    Take 4 hour nap.
    __________________
    This is the life.

  531. lisab says:

    Sally Kohn ?@sallykohn

    Straightforward from here:
    1. Impeach Trump & Pence
    2. Constitutional crisis
    3. Call special election
    4. Ryan v Clinton
    5. President Clinton

  532. Cash Cow TM says:

    The spooks spy on everyone.
    They dig for and know everyone’s secrets.

    Who spies on the spooks?
    Who sees the skeletons in their closet?

  533. Cash Cow TM says:

    Trump should pass an EO that says that for every damning thing the spooks leak about someone else, they have to also tell two negative secret things bout themselves.

  534. Cash Cow TM says:

    Is there a site that is keeping tracks of how many times during his 4 years as president that DJT says “big” and “very”?

  535. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    473. “So I guess Trump decimated poor Liddle Marco as well.”

    Rubio had the courage to run again for the Florida senate seat, despite many people claiming he would be defeated. He won decisively. So he is still willing to do battle, and take a leadership role. What is Jeb up to now?

  536. Mr.Vito says:

    “What is Jeb up to now?”

    Uhhh oh… is the paleo diet not working anymore?

  537. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    As it pertains to Admiral Harward, I’m simply repeating what is being reported. Major Garrett reported that Harward and the White House are hung up over staffing.

    Yesterday, it was Maggie Habermann who said KT McFarland told her Trump promised she could stay on as number 2 at the NSC.

    Today, Tom Ricks of Foreign Policy Magazine wrote that Harward wants to clean house of all the people Flynn hired and he’s likely to bring in many of the people who worked on GWB’s NSC like Juan Zuarte.

  538. jason says:

    For those who think the MSM has no influence, thing again.

    Look at Wobbie, he believes every word.

    Their demise has been greatly exaggerated.

  539. jason says:

    I’m simply repeating what is being reported.”

    Bingo.

    Translation:

    Everything the MSM says, I regurgitate here.

  540. Mr.Vito says:

    “I’m simply repeating what is being reported.”

    So were Jennie and Susy…

  541. Robbie says:

    No one claimed Rubio would lose if he ran again for his Senate. That is revisionist history. For Heaven’s sake, his opponent was Patrick Murphy. It wasn’t like he was running against a top flight candidate.

    Rubio ran again because he realized, without the national platform his Senate seat gave him, he would have been sorely hampered in any effort to run for POTUS again, whether it had been in 2020 or 2024. As we have seen, his Senate seat gives him a prominent role that keeps his name in the news.

  542. Robbie says:

    When Major Garrett worked at Fox, this place loved him. Now that he works at CBS, he is a liar.

    It’s really sad to watch HHR come to view that any news not favorable to Trump is now fake news.

  543. jason says:

    What is Jeb up to now?”

    Selling life size dolls to Jebbots?

    Or maybe a fire sale on the guaca bowls.

  544. Mr.Vito says:

    “When Major Garrett worked at Fox, this place loved him. Now that he works at CBS, he is a liar.”

    More Fake news.

  545. Robbie says:

    This is good news for the Trump team so I guess it’s not fake news.

    Jim Sciutto ?@jimsciutto 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Breaking: FBI NOT expected to pursue charges against #MichaelFlynn regarding phone calls w/Russian Ambassador, reports @evanperez

  546. jason says:

    MSNBC bars Kellyanne Conway from its show because they are against “fake news”.

    Yet they have “Reverend” Al Sharpton.

    These are Wobbie’s masters.

  547. Mr.Vito says:

    Why would they?

  548. Tina says:

    Uh, the wp reported that flynn fdid nothing wrong in mid january.

  549. Wobbles says:

    When Major Garrett was at Fox News, he was a liar.

    Now that he is at CBS, he is God.

  550. Tina says:

    Old news. The investigation needs to focus on who illegally wiretapped members of the trumo transition team.

    Thise criminals need to be prosecuted.

  551. Tina says:

    What is major garrett reporting?

  552. Wobbles says:

    Breaking Real News.

    Yahoo News says Trump WH “buried in crisis”.

    Let me be the first to repeat it here.

  553. Tina says:

    Who is the next target sopan fake news?

  554. Wobbles says:

    What is major garrett reporting?”

    Let me make it clear.

    If its anti-Trump, I believe it.

  555. Mr.Vito says:

    More good news for Trump:

    CNN reporting he will not be executed by firing squad.

  556. lisab says:

    Robbie says:

    No one claimed Rubio would lose if he ran again for his Senate.

    —————————————-
    Robbie says:

    And by the way, Rubio is overrated and that’s exactly why he can’t put away a compromised candidate like Patrick Murphy.

  557. lisab says:

    Robbie says:

    Looks like Rubio is in big trouble.

  558. NYCmike says:

    “I’m simply repeating what is being reported.”

    -Is this the same as me having Mark levin as a “hero”? 🙂

  559. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/JBurtonXP/status/831633805194719233

    -I like this response to Bill Kristol.

    “CG” to call J Burton an anti-semite in 3…2…1….

  560. NYCmike says:

    “I’m simply repeating what is being reported.”

    -Is scooter still keeping lists? This has to make one of them.

  561. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt believes spies are checking everything he does.

    They know every time he has to sit on the commode.

    That is when they make the phone ring.
    Trying to drive him crazy….raise stress level…

  562. lisab says:

    Congressman Staffer Knocked Unconscious By Anti-Trump Protesters…

    Student suspended for filming teacher saying election was ‘act of terrorism’…

  563. NYCmike says:

    As for the NSA, you really should put a guy like Cruz in charge – you know, a real partisan SOB, who will then go and use all of the tools available to go after Obama, Clinton, Gore, Cuomo, any potential challenger.

    Then, after like 9-12 months of that, get legislation to Trump’s desk limiting the power of the NSA back to what it was.

    Just a thought on how the Dems might operate.

  564. lisab says:

    pssst …

    i am a russian government employee

    and we were in contact with trump’s campaign

    it’s true … trust me

  565. lisab says:

    remember six months ago when russia was not a credible threat?

    and now cuomo is having us teach duck and cover in the classrooms again

    oh what a difference an election makes

  566. Charles says:

    This government is a joke. I’m glad that we got Gorsuch though, very good pick. Trump should resign and let Pence take over. Take most of his clown cabinet with him too and let Pence appoint some competent conservatives. Then there might be a chance to right this sinking ship.

    RIP USA

  567. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    561. “No one claimed Rubio would lose if he ran again for his Senate. That is revisionist history.”

    Actually according to the Washington Post in June 22, 2016, Rubio was in a tough race: 50%-50%. Others rated the seat as a toss up:

    “The 2016 Senate race is not an easy one — not even for Rubio, a known commodity in Florida and a gifted natural candidate. When you factor in the negatives Rubio took on in the 2016 presidential race — he got demolished in the state by Trump in the March presidential primary — and the various dismissive things he has said about the Senate, you have an even more complicated race. Add on the fact that Trump is, at a minimum, unpredictable as a top of the ticket nominee, and you see that this race is probably a 50-50 proposition for Rubio.

    If he loses, it’s likely the end of the line for Rubio. Running for president in 2020 or 2024 as an unsuccessful presidential candidate and Senate candidate in 2016 is not exactly a strong foundation on which to build…”

  568. Bitterlaw says:

    Fake news is usually real news that hurts somebody’s argument.

    Discuss.

  569. Mr.Vito says:

    RIP Charles is Proud Obamacon… just in case anyone has forgotten.

  570. Charles says:

    Hell yeah, and I’m more people too.

  571. Charles says:

    pssst …

    i am a russian government employee

    and we were in contact with trump’s campaign

    it’s true … trust me

  572. Mr.Vito says:

    “Fake news is usually real news that hurts somebody’s argument.”

    Fake news is usually fake news needed to bolster someone’s failing argument.

  573. Mr.Vito says:

    “Hell yeah, and I’m more people too.”

    Indeed… I know you are also the Susyque that posts fake crap with the names changed

  574. Mr.Vito says:

    And I pegged you for both of those before you blew your cover the other day…

  575. Charles says:

    I’m also Polaris. Bet ya didn’t see that coming, TROLL!

    -Polaris

  576. Poul Harris says:

    I am Poul Harris

    – Poul Harris

  577. Charles says:

    “And I pegged you for both of those …”

    Idiot, keep pegging you seem to know it all. Whatever.

  578. Marc says:

    This:

    NYT: Notable Dem senator does not rule out prospect of holding up debt limit extension to get a Flynn probe.

  579. ssq says:

    That is not Charles moron.

    That’s me.

  580. lisab says:

    no i am polaris!!!!!

    polaris

  581. Bitterlaw says:

    But who is Spartacus?

  582. IP says:

    There are many Polarises, but you can call me Ian.

    Like I said, there will be NO MORE free and fair elections!

    -Polaris
    polaris

  583. Mr.Vito says:

    “Idiot, keep pegging you seem to know it all. Whatever.

    You screwed up. It happens. Burgundy had enough sense to can that act. You keep showing up, I will keep reminding them.

  584. jason says:

    “Notable Dem senator does not rule out prospect of holding up debt limit extension to get a Flynn probe”

    So the Dems are going to forget all about how important it is to keep the government running and how many lives are at stake if it doesn’t so they can go on some fishing expedition to try to embarrass Trump?

  585. Mr.Vito says:

    RIP Proud Obamacon

  586. Mr.Vito says:

    Government shutdown?

    That should make Bill Kristol happy… funny how things change.

  587. jason says:

    There are many Polarises…..”

    Please don’t tell me they reproduce…there are not that many polls to be unskewed…

  588. Mr.Vito says:

    “There are many Polarises…..”

    Are those the ones that go around shooting unarmed black teenagers? I heard that from a nice screaming man with a hoodie, a black mask, and a giant brick.

  589. Mr.Vito says:

    Zing.

  590. lisab says:

    well this just about sums up the relationship i had with my mother

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08oiVjCN6lw&list=PL3SAqSp7aAbP2cxQBGeRBRwRbIaQm-34c&index=3

  591. MichiganGuy says:

    lisab so, that is your problem.

  592. jason says:

    lisab has a mother?

    I thought she was a failed socialist experiment.

  593. lisab says:

    lisab has a mother?
    ——————-

    had … but we did fight like germans

  594. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw another reason why the Flynn firing makes no sense…

    Apparently he maintains that he did NOT lie to the VP.

    Furthermore, he is apparently not allowed to hear the wiretapping or audio of himself lying aka he’s not allowed to defend himself either. So he was fired for a fake lie that was probably taken out of context anyway. The whole thing makes no sense.

  595. PresidentPaul! says:

    Fedor fights this Saturday on bellator on spike tv(he’s 40 but it will still be awesome)

    “I see Bunu doesn’t understand either McCain’s 2008 platform or the definition of ‘banana republic.'”

    McCain wanted Venezuela type garbage country for the USA.

  596. Wes says:

    Proof of that, Bunu?

    Last I checked, Ronulans are bbig fans of a Chavez-style cult of personality type in Ron Paul.

  597. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw Puzder would have been a disaster for labor secretary. I actually think there was significant conservative opposition that was not yet on record in the senate.

    If dems made it a 50-50 vote with Pence as a tie breaker, he would still lose because conservatives would have thrown him over board.

  598. PresidentPaul! says:

    Wes

    Ron Paul is leader of the conservative movement. Unlike Trump he would have with deep states threats correctly. Defunding, firing, declassifying all and most importantly war crimes trials.

  599. Wes says:

    Paul is the leader of the conservative movement as much as Josef Stalin is, Bunu.

  600. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand walks out of fake Obamacare repeal meeting by Paul Ryan
    “The Republican Establishment position is… to keep parts of Obamacare. I don’t think ‘ObamaCare lite’ is what we should do.”

    If nothing else, at least get rid of Paul Ryan.

  601. PresidentPaul! says:

    Proof. You must not have watched any of his campaign or watched him in the senate.

    John McCain campaign commercial 2008

  602. jason says:

    Bunu thinks he is a conservative….

    There is no cure for that kind of delusion.

  603. jason says:

    Ron Paul, king of porkers, 9/11 truther and defender of unilateral disarmament and surrender to our enemies is a conservative?

    LOL

  604. Bitterlaw says:

    There is no cure for that kind of delusion.

    I know. I think that I am a coach despite all evidence to the contrary.

  605. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab used to fight with her mother in German? Pretty unique fight in Provincetown.

  606. PresidentPaul! says:

    One of Trump’s worst nominees goes down.

    12 republican senators were withholding support for Puzder

  607. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4228722/Southern-Poverty-Law-Center-says-U-S-hate-groups-increased-2016.html

    I’m sure that this story would have run if any Republican was elected. Oddly enough, it does not blame Obama for there being more hate groups in 2011 than right now.

  608. Bitterlaw says:

    From the article:

    5: Pennsylvania (40 hate groups) Pittsburgh and Philadelphia both have neo-Nazi and black separatist groups; Harrisburg is the home of a group of racist skinheads. KKK and white nationalists are scattered through the country.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4228722/Southern-Poverty-Law-Center-says-U-S-hate-groups-increased-2016.html#ixzz4Yr55mnIu
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    I do not doubt it. However, if the black group is the one I am thinking about, it is made up of maybe 10 guys who yell at people eating lunch near Liberty Plaace (office and shopping tower)

  609. JC says:

    McCain needs to just go away. Good grief.

  610. Robbie says:

    Sean Duffy announced this morning he will NOT run for Senate in 2018. I’ve never been wowed by Duffy, but he was viewed as the top recruit to challenge Baldwin. There are several other good recruits in WI, but it will be interesting to see if Duffy is a trend or a blip when it comes to Senate recruitment. This is one area when Trump’s popularity will be key.

  611. Robbie says:

    Kyle Kondik
    ?@kkondik
    Follow

    More
    R House members who could’ve run for Senate but won’t is growing: Zinke (MT, to Cabinet), Meehan (PA), Duffy (WI), Brat (VA), Brooks (IN)

  612. Waingro says:

    #633, wow, the Duffy bow out is a HUGE letdown for GOP. You gotta wonder if they are already seeing too much of an uphill battle with Trump weighing them down.

  613. Waingro says:

    Here are Kondik’s Crytsal Ball rankings for the Senate races. He has MT as a leans D, which I think is generous. Everything else is probably fair until we start seeing some credible challengers announce and/or incumbents dropping out.

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/2018s-initial-senate-ratings/

  614. wraith says:

    ” uphill battle with Trump weighing them down”

    If he was “weighing them down” why did he take wisc. in the last election ?

  615. Robbie says:

    wraith says:
    February 16, 2017 at 11:26 am
    ” uphill battle with Trump weighing them down”
    If he was “weighing them down” why did he take wisc. in the last election ?

    – You’re confusing the campaign that is now over with the present circumstances and realities of President Trump. One is not the same as the other.

  616. Trump says:

    Don’t ask real questions, the Jeb sucker’s brain will hurt.

    Maybe candidates like Duffy just don’t have statewide name and heft to mount a credible senate run, especially against an incumbent. For example, see josh mandel in Ohio.

  617. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    February 16, 2017 at 11:21 am
    #633, wow, the Duffy bow out is a HUGE letdown for GOP. You gotta wonder if they are already seeing too much of an uphill battle with Trump weighing them down.

    – This was my reaction as well, but we don’t know who will actually run or what the national atmosphere a year from is. Cory Gardner turned down a chance to run in 2013 only to change his mind in March of 2014.

    If you care about Republican politics, this is where Trump can have his biggest influence. If he gets his act together, he can help establish a dominant national party as Teresa may is doing for the Tories in Great Britain. If he continues to move from one crisis to another, well he could end up leaving the party as broken as Obama did the Democrats.

  618. Robbie says:

    Duffy had been actively recruited by Mitch McConnell to run for Senate.

  619. Trump says:

    All evidence to the contrary, the Jeb sucker keeps spouting his fake news.

    Meanwhile, ras up to 55.

    All through 2016, the Right Track was stuck in the 20’s. After inauguration, it has been tracking in high 40’s.

    Real prime love trump, haters like Robbie in deep hurt.

  620. Trump says:

    McConnell is not that smart or popular. If he was he would be president.

  621. Waingro says:

    #637, I would agree, but I’m just trying to guess what is going through some of these potential candidates’ mindsets.

    FWIW, I just read Duffy say it’s too early to run for Senate due to him having 8 young children etc., but I tend to think that if his chances were strong for grabbing Baldwin’s seat, he would have gone for it.

    Also, FYI: Ron Johnson beat Trump’s performance in Wisco by almost 3 points. If anything, HE may have helped drag Trump across the finish line.

  622. Trump says:

    Instead of senate races, McConnell should think more about Obamacare repeal and tax cuts if GOP wants to make headway in 2018.

  623. Waingro says:

    “Instead of senate races, McConnell should think more about Obamacare repeal and tax cuts if GOP wants to make headway in 2018.”

    Agreed, but it would help if Trump took some better leadership on this and used bully pulpit to sell something.

  624. jason says:

    You’re confusing the campaign that is now over with the present circumstances and realities of President Trump. One is not the same as the other.”

    LOL

    This from someone who is pining for when Jeb Bush was the “clear the field”, “suck up all the money”, “juggernaut”.

    And who has not changed the rhetoric from the campaign to now one single bit, still just repeating MSM talking points.

  625. Walt says:

    Morning session done.
    Afternoon session still to do

    If Cash Cow is on here a bunch, run her off.
    She is supposed to be watching rhe judge shows on
    TV and taking notes to fill me in onwhat I miss.

    Carry on.

  626. jason says:

    “the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-five percent (45%) disapprove.

    Wobbie’s head to explode.

    Oh wait, he doesn’t like Rasmussen.

  627. Bitterlaw says:

    McConnell is not that smart or popular. If he was he would be president.

    Is that the standard now? That means that more than 350 million Americans are not that smart or popular since there is only 1 President and 5 former Presidents alive right now.

  628. NYCmike says:

    “Agreed, but it would help if Trump took some better leadership on this and used bully pulpit to sell something.”

    -I think Trump would be better suited to sell something that is given to him via Congress.

    As I said over and over during the campaign, Trump is NOT an ideologue, and has very few governing principles, which means he will not know what to FIGHT FOR unless it is handed to him. Congress should pass corporate tax rate bill and the repeal-and-replace Obamacare bill, and then get Trump on board with them. Trump will go for the corporate tax cut, and he has already said Obamacare is a mess.

    And, they should do this sooner rather than later, because wasting time gives other people a chance to get Trump’s ear.

  629. NYCmike says:

    “You’re confusing the campaign that is now over with the present circumstances and realities of President Trump. One is not the same as the other.””

    -jason,

    This is true. The campaign is over, and a person making a calculation about 2018 has to deal with a different reality at this time.

    Robbie was correct. You are wrong to ridicule this statement of his.

  630. NYCmike says:

    “McCain needs to just go away. Good grief.”

    -PLEASE!

  631. NYCmike says:

    Take Goober with you.

  632. Trump says:

    The standard is, people like mcconnel should stop obsessing about trump and do their own f&$ king jobs. Not that difficult.

    But look who I am responding to.

    Meanwhile,

    Congress Crawl…
    Tax Cuts Stall…
    Obamacare for All…
    Winter Slumber: Republican passivity during first month of Trump….
    House passed SIX Obamacare repeals when Obama was president! Now NOTHING….

    Congress better step up, or 2018 will not be pretty.

  633. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    I think I am looking to be patient until the SOTU. After that, there better be some A C T I O N !

  634. NYCmike says:

    https://www.peakprosperity.com/podcast/107126/expert-what-need-know-about-oroville-dam-crisis

    -This person says $6 million could have shored up the Oroville Dam if it had been done before the crisis.

    CHUMP change.

    BUT, Gov Brown wanted hi-speed rail that did not serve the population centers.

  635. NYCmike says:

    #655 – Tina,

    You really should give a h/t to Drudge when you take his work.

  636. NYCmike says:

    And Coulter….

  637. jason says:

    An interesting election fact. Despite all the whining about the popular vote.

    Trump + Johnson + McMullin 68,206,048
    Hillary + Stein 67,310.847

    Also, states carried by Hillary where the Trump + Johnson + McMillan exceeded Hillary + Stein

    Colorado, Maine and Minnesota

    Stein was not on the ballot in Nevada, but Trump + Johnson exceeded Hillary even without the 5000 votes Darrell Castle of the Ind. American Party got.

  638. jason says:

    So the liberal argument that there is a “popular vote mandate for liberalism” is a crock.

  639. DW says:

    NBC News alert:

    “President Donald Trump is holding a press conference in the East Room of the White House, where he is expected to announce ex-federal prosecutor Alexander Acosta as his new choice for labor secretary. Acosta would replace Andrew Puzder, who withdrew his nomination yesterday amid intense scrutiny over a string of controversies — the latest blow to the fledgling Trump administration”

    blow?

    fledgling?

    not sure these terms were ever used of similar changes in the Obama administration.

  640. jason says:

    “Rbbie was correct. You are wrong to ridicule this statement of his.”

    Huh, moron, I didn’t disagree with the statement or ridicule it.

    I pointed out the hypocrisy and chutzpah of Wobbie in making it, considering he is still in the campaign mode.

    Now GFY.

  641. jason says:

    Trump will be “embattled” and in a “quagmire” soon.

  642. jason says:

    Trump was stupid to attack McCain’s war record and POW status. Nothing good could ever come of it.

    Now he is paying for it, these things do come around to bite you.

  643. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    633. Actually Duffy not running may increase the changes of the Republicans taking the Wisconsin seat. Duffy was controversial. There are several excellent candidates in the wings. What your likely seeing is the narrowing of the field of candidates.

  644. lisab says:

    trump to reporter:

    you are very dishonest people

    you are very fake news

    🙂

  645. lisab says:

    “Pretty unique fight in Provincetown.”

    provincetown is quite international

  646. lisab says:

    he is kicking a cnn reporter in the ribs now

  647. lisab says:

    the referee should stop this

    trump is thrashing them

    i haven’t seen a beating this bad since the tyson lewis fight

  648. lisab says:

    he just kicked hillary for giving russia 20% of our uranium

    and he just threatened to blow the russian spy ship out of the water

    and now he is kicking reporters again 🙂

  649. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Sacramento Bee had a simulation of the flood that would result if the Oroville spillway had failed.

    http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/soapbox/article132875519.html

    Below it is opinion piece by a Sierra Club representative. It makes some good points, such as neglect of dam maintenance, then makes a ridiculous statement:

    “The last few years of drought, followed by a year of unusually heavy storms, show that the days of predictable weather patterns are gone. Climate change has taken hold.”

    Actually the few years of drought followed by heavy rains has been the normal pattern in California since at least the 1860s.

    The NRDC had a tweet stating that climate change is causing prolonged drought AND more intense rain in California. After some ridicule of the tweet, it is now gone.

  650. lisab says:

    he is stomping clinton again

  651. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Sounds like Trump is taking charge of the narrative again, everything in the next few days will be about what Trump said.

  652. Waingro says:

    The smart move.

    Reuters Top News Verified account
    ?@Reuters

    BREAKING: Justice Department says Trump intends ‘in near future’ to rescind travel order and replace with revised order – filing

  653. NYCmike says:

    “Now GFY.”

    -Now?

    Ok. I just reeled in a big fish for dinner, so Mom will be happy! 🙂

  654. lisab says:

    few days?!!!!!

    the press is going to need to tape this and play it in slow motion

    there is more material in this ONE press conference than all of obama’s press conferences and speeches combined!

    msnbc is going to have to bring in extra commenters for this

    (he is insulting the bbc now btw)

  655. lisab says:

    the press looks shocked

    like they cannot believe what is happeneing

  656. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ““the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-five percent (45%) disapprove.”

    I would rely on polls that were the most accurate for the November election, rather than the ones that were seriously off — unless they show they have modified their method of polling. It appears they are not reaching a representative cross sample of voters.

    From what I recollect, the same polls did not accurately predict the large Republican senate pick up in 2014, which also came as a surprise.

  657. lisab says:

    he is telling a jewish reporter to sit down and shut up

    after just saying he is the least antisemitic and least racist person the reporters have ever met!

    now he is answering a question from a pbs reporter

    she looks like she might cry

  658. lisab says:

    robbie/corey/obamacon

    are going to need to up their meds after this press conference

    it is more entertaining than the big bang theory

  659. lisab says:

    he is bonding with a black reporter now

    over fixing the inner cities

    “there are two chicagos”

  660. lisab says:

    he just called schumer a light weight

  661. lisab says:

    well it is over

    without a doubt …

    BEST PRESS CONFERENCE EVAH

    no matter what side you are on

    if you hate trump … you have plenty of material

    if you love trump, you just saw him call the press liars for the last hour

    i need to buy more popcorn, it is going to be a long four years

  662. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    682. “it is more entertaining than the big bang theory”

    Good analogy. Sort of like the tech industry uses the term “disruptive.” After Obama spent eight years trying to institutionalized his leftist, socialist idealogy, perhaps the only way it could be reversed is someone using the jack hammer approach.

  663. lisab says:

    and before you ask

    that press conference will be killed by the blue state press, they may literally ask if trump is crazy

    and

    loved in the blue collar counties and mid-west

  664. lisab says:

    i think mitch mcconnell and paul ryan are hitting the bar early today … i am sure mccain is calling them as we speak …

    and they are refusing to pick up the phone

    because they just cannot deal with this right now

  665. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    688. “i think mitch mcconnell and paul ryan are hitting the bar early today”

    Was that where they were when Obama was running over them between 2014-2016, when Obama was ruling by arbitrary executive orders?

  666. NYCmike says:

    Funny that the midwest “normal” people can handle a brash New Yorker, but the politicians from the midwest, and the reporters from the coasts, can’t.

  667. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h17-2Tjg9s

    The dam break would look exactly like this. Except that Sacramento does not look like New York.

  668. NYCmike says:

    “Day without immigrants”

    Neighbor of ours is very pissed today. He has expanded his business recently (last 6-9 months), and today his good employees, who are legal as far as he knows, all took off today, WITHOUT EVEN CALLING HIM.

    I know that he apprenticed these 3 men for the last 2 years, and when they progressed far enough, that is when he started taking on more work. It will be interesting to see how he handles it going forward.

  669. Bitterlaw says:

    Here are some clips of Trump’s press conference.

    http://nypost.com/2017/02/16/trump-goes-on-rambling-rant-against-the-media/

    Here is poster Trump’s press conference.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUOy72Y5uV8

  670. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    I think I saw Chris Christie carrying Obama up the steps of Federal Hall.

  671. NYCmike says:

    I will have to check Author’s Twitter feed again to see what him and MD think about Trump’s rant.

    I wonder if the two of them NOW TRUST the media.

  672. Mr.Vito says:

    “Now GFY.”

    -Now?

    Ok. I just reeled in a big fish for dinner, so Mom will be happy!

    My Word. That is some perverse kinkiness I did not need to hear about.

  673. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Political/Morning Consult Poll of Trump’s job performance: 49% approve; 45%

    The poll several paragraphs down in a Politico article entitled: “Poll: Trump trails generic Democrat; but not Warren in 2020”

  674. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    693. http://nypost.com/2017/02/16/trump-goes-on-rambling-rant-against-the-media/

    Like it. Am sick of wimpy Republicans, like the ones who rolled over for Obama. The best defense is a good offense — as Clausewitz said: “the defender must always seek to change over to the attack..”

  675. Mr.Vito says:

    SDC: “I would rely on polls that were the most accurate for the November election, rather than the ones that were seriously off — unless they show they have modified their method of polling. It appears they are not reaching a representative cross sample of voters.”

    You should check out the new Economist/Yougov poll.

    Some things about the sample used before weighting:

    11% more female than male
    39-38-22 D-I-R (17% more D than R)
    2016 vote: Clinton 42% Trump 28%
    31% Lib 27% Conserv 41% Mod (4% more LIBERAL than conserv)

    They weight for sex, age, race, etc. They weight for 2016 vote, but not ideology or party ID despite the fact the sample isn’t even close to reflective of those two.

  676. Mr.Vito says:

    698 That was rambling?

  677. Mr.Vito says:

    I think I’m prepared to theorize on the Ron Johnson race.

    Looking at the RCP for each, I see that Trump outperformed polling by 7.2% and Johnson only by 6.1%. However, the polls were closing for Johnson to a dead heat, while Trump’s was flat at about a 6% loss right to election day.

    Further, Johnson performed better in the more suburban areas with neverTrump type republicans.

    I think it is clear, that Trump maximized turnout both for his ardent supporters and for neverTrumpers voting against him (like Mrs. MD’s angry mob) in a way that polls flat out missed.

    However, Johnson would have benefited from both. The Ds were already maximized by the Clinton turnout machine and a presidential election year so that those brought out by Trump amounted to less effect than the Rs brought out by Trump.

    In a lower turnout election, I see Johnson losing… I would guess the Trump effect lifted them both up for the win.

    On election day… Trump really was overperforming by about 7% while Johnson was by much less.

  678. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    701. The Neville Chamberlains of the world always are horrified by wild men like Winston Churchill. When you get comfortable in your defeatist cocoon, its unpleasant to get rousted.

    Its why McCain, etc., are whining away. When Reagan was elected, same thing. “Old guard” Republicans stood on the side and were quickly forgotten.

  679. NYCmike says:

    ““Old guard” Republicans stood on the side and were quickly forgotten.”

    -The problem with this is that Reagan was not able to do everything he wanted, and those forgotten Senators and Congresspeople on his own side who stymied him stayed on, or were replaced by other feckless individuals (aka typical politician).

  680. NYCmike says:

    “That was rambling?”

    -No. Next question.

    (Odd that MD would have rather seen Hillary up there as opposed to Trump. Trump is “relentless”.)

  681. NYCmike says:

    Bitter left to play with himself…..on the new thread.

  682. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The anti-Trumpers think that Trump will finally say something so outrageous that it will turn the American people against him. Has not happened in two years.

    As someone said: “The press takes Trump literally, but not serious; the public takes Trump seriously, but not literally.”

    Watching the liberals and press go bonkers over Trump’s news conference was good entertainment; it beats Obama continually bashing the U.S. and traveling the world to give apology speeches on our behalf.

  683. Waingro says:

    #660, interesting data, jason. However, I think that Johnson and McMullin’s performances might embolden more 3rd partiers to race in the future (and especially in 2020) and help siphon more votes away from GOP.

  684. Mr.Vito says:

    ” I think that Johnson and McMullin’s performances might embolden more 3rd partiers…”

    They got smashed in a race with the two most unpopular candidates in history.

    Time for 3rd parties to pack it up.

  685. Waingro says:

    #701, good analysis. Although has it been measurably determined how many “Never Trumpers” were more motivated to vote due to Trump effect than usual?

    For me, personally, I would have stayed home but for some important ballot referendum questions in my state. However, having a relevant Senate race like Johnson’s in my state would have emboldened me even more to show up. In the end, I wrote-in Evan McMullin for POTUS, but that was more of “well I might as well just vote for someone” versus a desire to show up and vote against Trump.

  686. Waingro says:

    #708, they did better than recent history though. And it’s also paying off for them. McMullin, has now parlayed it into a mini-career with the forming of a new “anti-Trump conservative” organization. He’s become obnoxious and over-the-top about it now — I now regret writing in his name.

  687. NYCmike says:

    ” He’s become obnoxious and over-the-top about it now…..”

    -Never go FULL MD!

  688. Waingro says:

    #711, has MD made a cameo back in here recently or something? I have only periodically checked in since the election.

  689. NYCmike says:

    Waingro,

    A person with the same name has appeared on Author’s Twitter feed. I think it is him, but I am not positive. Some of the other posters may be able to confirm. He has not come back to HHR.

  690. Waingro says:

    #713, got ya. You still follow Author? I stopped following him after I was one of his “purges”, when he claimed he was effectively wiping out politics all together from his feed — which apparently was VERY short lived.

    I have checked his page a few times. Looks like his “conversion” to liberalism is almost complete.