Baldwin Leads GOP in WI

Magellan Strategies released a new poll for the state of Wisconsin that shows Tammy Baldwin easily ahead of two potential Republican candidates (although one is currently an elected Democrat).

Tammy Baldwin (D-inc) 49%
David Clarke (R) 36%

Tammy Baldwin (D-inc) 49%
Sean Duffy (R) 35%

In the primary race, Magellan actually did two separate surveys, one that included the titles of each candidate and one that did not.

Sean Duffy 26%
David Clarke 25%

Sheriff David Clarke 32%
Congressman Sean Duffy 26%

The General Election poll and the “non-titled” primary poll was done February 9-10 among likely voters. The “titled” poll was done February 15-16 among likely primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:38 am
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864 Responses to “Baldwin Leads GOP in WI”

  1. Bitterlaw says:


  2. Bitterlaw says:

    Wizard – Villanova looks bored with the regular season. They better be able to get hungry to repeat or they are not going to even make it to the Elite 8.

  3. Wes says:

    I hope now that Duffy has passed on the Senate race, Gardner can coax Ribble to return to elective politics as Coburn did in 2004. Ribble unseated Kagan in 2010 and held the seat easily. He would be a great candidate unless Duffy reverses course.

  4. Wes says:

    RIP Alan Colmes.

    He was less annoying than Hannity the lightweight during their 12 years together on FNC and admitted to voting for Giuliani in 1997 despite his partisan leanings. With the dying off of liberals measured in their rhetoric, the American Left has become more and more detached from reality and American politics.

  5. Big Joe says:

    No hit tip for me? Dang Dave.

    RIP Alan Colmes.

    Big Joe

  6. Mr.Vito says:

    Clarke is at 22-62 with nonwhites in this poll (Johnson got 24%). Baldwin is at 48% with whites (33% definite)… Feingold was 43-55.

    They did not say he was “sheriff” in the general poll. About 57% had no opinion of him.

  7. NYCmike says:

    “No hit tip for me?”

    -If your name is not “Michael”, there will be no “hit tip”.

  8. Mr.Vito says:

    Some people would call it a drain.

    People just want to make everything sound like a sex term these days.

  9. Mr.Vito says:

    Paul Bunyan gives two thumbs up.

  10. NYCmike says:

    “Some people would call it a drain.”

    -LOL! I thought of that after I posted it. Some ordinary person must have had some issues at home, and made a simple statement like “Wow, it looks like when my toilet bowl overflowed!” when looking at a dam spillway, and realized a well-cleaned drain would not have this problem.

  11. Bitterlaw says:

    Hope MD does not see this story. He would find a way to say the Muslims were secret terrorists or fellow travelers.

  12. Walt says:

    Suspected assassin Doan Thi Huong

    Doan Thi Huong

    Oahu nod thing
    hog had unit on
    hung in a hot do

  13. Walt says:

    CBS poll

    Trump rating on immigration:

    39% Approve
    55% Disapprove


  14. Mr.Vito says:

    16 Yougov is 44-43 today, Walt.

  15. Mr.Vito says:

    with adults

  16. Mr.Vito says:

    an interesting tidbit in Yougov:

    Ryan job approval among Trump voters: 63-23

  17. Tina says:

    Ny, you are anti semitic since you called schumah shumerall.

    -cg aka corey

  18. Mr.Vito says:

    Another tidbit:

    38% of liberals say Russia is an enemy
    18% of conservatives say the same

    4% of liberals say Mexico is an enemy
    4% of conservatives also say Mexico is an enemy

  19. Mr.Vito says:

    Differential, Israel Ally or Enemy

    Trump voters 71-2 (+69)
    Clinton voters 31-5 (+26)

  20. Mr.Vito says:

    Differential, Iran Ally or Enemy

    Trump voters 0-77 (-77)
    Clinton voters 1-33 (-32)

  21. Mr.Vito says:

    Obamacare among RVS

    Complete success: 4%
    More success than failure: 29%
    Equally success and failure: 15%
    More failure than success: 21%
    Complete failure: 22%

  22. Mr.Vito says:

    Frienemy of American people? (RVS)

    Ally/Friend: 51
    Enemy/NotFriend: 35

    Ally/Friend: 48
    Enemy/NotFriend: 41

    Fox (+14,+27) outperforms CNN (+1,+18) with whites and Latinos.

  23. Mr.Vito says:

    When the media challenges Donald Trump about whether things he and his Administration say are correct, or not correct, [who usually turns out to be right]: (RVs)

    Trump and Administration 35%
    The media 42%

    How often do you think mainstream media outlets report something that could be described as “fake news”: (RVs)

    MostOfTime: 27
    Sometimes: 32
    Rarely: 27
    Never: 8

  24. Mr.Vito says:

    Alternatively, that’s only 35% of RVs who think the MSM is at worst RARELY reporting fake news.

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Good news. I only have 4 of the 8 signs of an impending nervous breakdown.

  26. NYCmike says:

    “Never: 8”

    -Author, MD, “CG”, Robbie, Proud Obamacon, Susyque, Charles, and Diogenes.

  27. Wes says:

    If I ever went to a party at Bitterlaw’s house, I’d have immolate myself to liven things up.

  28. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    At The Villages in Florida last week, there was a bumper sticker on a parked car that read:
    “I miss Chicago .”

    Someone broke the window, stole the radio, shot out all four tires, added an Obama bumper sticker and left a note that read:
    “Hope this helps”

  29. NYCmike says:

    -Is this legal?

    I know my wife would probably say “Don’t make a scene.”, but I am not sure if I would go for this.

  30. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    8. Hoover Dam spillway is amazing. 100 foot drop.

  31. Tina says:

    Demint send same obubmblercare repela bill that the obumbler vetoed.

    Yes, too simple.

    Ky blue rino is slurring and the other one has not left the house gym.

  32. Wes says:

    Realistically Obamacare will not be repealed en toto because of some fairly popular provisions. Republicans would be best off to pass a bill keeping the popular provisions but stripping away the unpopular parts of the bill while tossing in actions of their own Dems rejected in 2010.

  33. Wes says:

    Of course had DeMint and his fellow extremist Tea Partyers not helped pad the Dem caucus by ramming a series of incompetent candidates into nomination in 2010 and 2012, then Republicans would have a larger majority in the Senate and more leverage to push through more sweeping reforms to Obamacare.

  34. Tina says:

    Republicans fail again and add confusion. I know its politico but they raise some imeportant issues

  35. lisab says:

    Starting at midnight on Friday, witches around the country are calling for a mass spell to be cast on Donald Trump every night of a waning crescent moon until he’s driven from office.

  36. lisab says:

    personally i never really thought much of waning crescent moon spells

  37. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Interesting article in Yahoo News on a Silicon Valley liberal interviewing Trump supporters. He found that they wanted their confidentially protected.

    Think a lot of people will not respond to an anonymous pollster because of the same concerns, which may be why the polls were so wrong prior to the November election, and are likely wrong now.

  38. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    39. “personally i never really thought much of waning crescent moon spells.”

    Why not just use voodoo. Some people are just so impractical.

  39. lisab says:

    Differences Between Voodoo and Witchcraft

    People with no occult knowledge tend to blur the practices of voodoo and witchcraft together, not really understanding that they are very different things.

    in a nutshell, it (witchcraft) is a magickal practice that is not tied to any particular religion or faith system. Though the term can be used for many different types of magick around the world, the kind of witchcraft we are basically covering here is a British / European style. It uses the natural energies within us and within natural elements such as herbs and crystals to make changes in the world.

    The fundamental difference between voodoo and witchcraft is the spiritual aspect. As I said, witchcraft is only a practice but Voodoo is a true religion. Their practices revolve around specific beliefs and a pantheon of Gods and Goddesses. The main creator spirit is called Olodumare and the rest of the Deities are known as loas (or lwas) and they are considered to be aspects of this greater spirit. For most people, it’s just easier to think of them as Gods or Goddesses.

  40. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab’s explanation of the difference between voodoo and witchbraft made more sense than her explanation of utopian socialism.

  41. Robbie says:

    EW Jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Might be time to direct our attention away from VA.

    John Fredericks

    Sources close to @ewjacksonsr at #CPAC17 tell me he’s Gearing up for ’18 US Senate Run vs @CarlyFiorina @gov_gilmore and @IngrahamAngle

  42. Robbie says:

    So far, Pat Meehan, Sean Duffy, and Ryan Zinke have taken their names out of the 2018 Senate races. Zinke did so by taking the Interior job while the other two just took outright passes. On the other hand, EW Jackson, Sheriff Clarke, and Laura Ingraham have suggested they’re interested in running.

    Obviously, it’s way too early to draw any conclusions about 2018, but it is notable some top names have already demurred while some cranks are talking about running.

    There are lots of good, quality candidates who are still looking at running. Wes has noted a few of them, but the kooks and the cranks are already threatening to give Democrats their dream opponents.

  43. Bitterlaw says:

    Pat Meehan is my Congressman. He is perfectly happy in the House. Why give up his seat for a tough run against Toomey?

  44. Mr.Vito says:

    David Clarke is doing better than Sean Duffy in the poll. (not identified as sheriff)

  45. NYC says:

    but the kooks and the cranks are already threatening to give Democrats their dream opponents.”

    I resemble that comment.

  46. NYCmike says:

    “NYC” sounds like a moron!

  47. jason says:

    Best line at CPAC so far..

    Ted Cruz:

    I’ll commend the Democrats for one thing,” he joked. “If they name Keith Ellison, we can commend them for truth in advertising.”

  48. jason says:

    “NYC” sounds like a moron!”

    Writes like one too.

  49. jason says:

    I was driving most of the day, so got to listen to some talk radio.

    NYC’s hero, Mark Levin, said he was at CPAC and could vouch that most conservatives there “weren’t buying the nationalist populist crap, and were against protectionism and tariffs…”

    For once, I hope the blowhard is right.

  50. Mr.Vito says:

    Meehan also didn’t vote for Trump, and told him to withdraw, which looking at the results of Pennsylvania with Toomey and Trump, is unlikely to make him the best candidate statewide.

  51. Awesome says:

    The “conservatives” at Cpac can get what they want when they win an election.

  52. NYCmike says:

    “For once, I hope the blowhard is right.”

    -If Republicans in Congress stick to their principles…..

  53. NYCmike says:


  54. Mr.Vito says:

    Toomey, I believe finally announced he voted for Trump around 6:30 on election day… it is interesting that he was able to thread that needle.

    Portman won by a landslide because he went out and worked his butt off to speak with working class white voters himself and won their vote… I think he contacted something like 6 million voters.

    McCain won 53-41, and that’s frankly a pretty dismal performance (and his worst ever) for a hero who has represented his constituents for 30 years.

  55. Awesome says:

    Guess who has won the Cpac straw poll 3 years in a row.

    Cpac is nothing more than a brood of kooks jerking each other off.

  56. Tina says:

    Mark lie vine akso said that we have to take the refugees from our ally, Australia, just because they are an ally.

    He is no conservative.

    Opm borders, supporter of the goober wing of the party.

  57. Awesome says:

    Meanwhile, the real last conservative, Reagan, was the one who was the big proponent of tariffs.


  58. Marc says:

    The fake polls that showed Clinton in a landslide are out in mass to try to manipulate the American people. Don’t believe anything big they say, the Republican Party and conservative independents are behind Trump and implementing his agenda and our conservative agenda.

  59. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason has a radio in his buggy. Does the bishop know?

  60. jason says:

    Toomey, McCain and Portman all did better than Trump.

    McCain might have only won by 12, but that was a lot better than Trump, who won by 3.5….

    The fact is all the senators that kept their distance from Trump did better than he did with the exception of Kirk who also got wiped out by 17 pts.

    One could argue that Toomey and Johnson benefited from the all the people Trump brought out to vote for him….it’s possible…. but more likely they benefited from lower turnout for Hillary than for Obama.

  61. jason says:

    Meanwhile, the real last conservative, Reagan, was the one who was the big proponent of tariffs.”

    BS, Reagan was for free trade.

    ‘In the many eulogies to Ronald Reagan since his passing, virtually all acknowledge his role in defeating Soviet communism and reviving America’s self-confidence. But another aspect of Reagan’s record that should not be forgotten was his commitment to keeping America open to trade and immigration.

    Reagan’s vision of an America open to commerce and peaceful, hardworking immigrants contradicts the anti-trade and anti-immigration views espoused by Lou Dobbs, Bill O’Reilly, Pat Buchanan, Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, and many others who claim to speak for the conservative causes Reagan largely defined.

    Reagan’s heart and head were clearly on the side of free trade. While president, he declared in 1986: “Our trade policy rests firmly on the foundation of free and open markets. I recognize … the inescapable conclusion that all of history has taught: The freer the flow of world trade, the stronger the tides of human progress and peace among nations.”

    It was the Reagan administration that launched the Uruguay Round of multilateral trade negotiations in 1986 that lowered global tariffs and created the World Trade Organization. It was his administration that won approval of the U.S.-Canada Free Trade Agreement in 1988. That agreement soon expanded to include Mexico in what became the North American Free Trade Agreement, realizing a vision that Reagan first articulated in the 1980 campaign. It was Reagan who vetoed protectionist textile quota bills in 1985 and 1988.”

  62. jason says:

    The “conservatives” at Cpac can get what they want when they win an election.”

    Dang, I thought Trump waa a conservative….

  63. Mr.Vito says:

    Portman won both Trump and traditional support for the reason I mentioned above. Landslide

    McCain did poorly for a person of his position… he did not win Trump voters. He did not support Trump.

    Toomey drew a wash from each share and his position was a wash.

    Johnson got support from both Trump and Ryan/Walker/Preibus. He did well with both in a tougher state than Ohio.

    Not complicated.

    Portman and Johnson busted their a$$es to win everyone they could.

  64. Mr.Vito says:

    Blunt won 82% of Trump voters
    McCain won 85% of Trump voters
    Ayotte won 86% of Trump voters
    Heck won 89% of Trump voters


    Toomey won 91% of Trump voters
    Johnson won 91% of Trump voters
    Portman won 92% of Trump voters
    Burr won 94% of Trump voters

  65. Mr.Vito says:

    That’s per CBS exits…

  66. jason says:

    I disagree McCain did poorly by winning by 12. AZ is trending purple with an increasing Hispanic population. I don’t argue McCain is not as popular as he once was, but 12 is a solid win and 3 times the margin Trump got.

    There is no doubt many Trump voters didn’t vote for McCain, but it’s also obvious many McCain voters did not vote for Trump.

    Trump made a big mistake attacking McCain’s war record. I am sure it cost him some votes in AZ. Many of the things Trump said that people thought would damage him (including me) actually got him votes. The POW attack was not one of them.

  67. jason says:

    Portman and Johnson busted their a$$es to win everyone they could.”

    I won’t argue with success but many here said for months that Johnson was not campaigning aggressively enough. I didn’t know enough about his campaign to comment, but I am always a little skeptical of “comebacks”. It certainly didn’t work for Thompson, Mondale, Bayh, etc.

  68. Mr.Vito says:

    McCain did the worst he’s ever done… acting as though 53 percent for 30-year war hero McCain is so much better than 49% for a racist xenophobe is kinda silly.

  69. Mr.Vito says:

    Besides, Portman took the time to stand on principles, not go out of his way to tick off Trump’s new voters, and went out to win those voters anyway.

  70. Mr.Vito says:

    Much to Soccer guru’s chagrin…

  71. jason says:

    Of course, I do know a few people that voted for Toomey and not for Trump….confidential….

  72. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump actually got 42% of Latino Men to McCain’s 41%.

    He lost significantly more Latino women than McCain.

    The GOP might want to take this into consideration in terms of strategy…

  73. Mr.Vito says:

    In fact, if Trump had performed more uniformly with Latinos across genders, the state would be a tossup.

  74. Mr.Vito says:

    I think my main point about McCain is that the GOP should not take for granted that the state was close just because of Trump, and anyone un-Trump would be fine going forward.

  75. lisab says:

    Ayotte won 86% of Trump voters

    then she lost by offending trump voters. if she had gotten 87% of trump voters instead of 86% she would have won

    on nov 7th trump had a big rally in manchester nh

    the penultimate rally he had in the campaign — the last rally was in michigan

    it was covered all over the local talk radio news, largely because howie carr one of the local talk radio guys was a trump supporter and was invited

    ayotte was the only major local republican that did not go or at least send a representative, and of course howie carr slammed her for it all day long. of course trump was thought to be way behind hillary on nov 7th. he might not have said anything if he thought trump would win

    she lost by 1017 votes

  76. Mr.Vito says:

    So, I thought I’d go directly to the source for this Sweden argument.

    I see from reports 2011-2015, the Swedish population saying they were victims of a sexual offense in Sweden went from 0.7% to 1.7%. For women it went from 1.1% to 3.0%. Sweden has just shy of 10 million people, and about half women. (pop. about

    So that’s roughly 150,000 women in 2015 compared to 50,000 in 2011 (population was about 700000 less).

    Seems like a lot to me… however, the reporting of such crimes went from 17077 in 2011 up up up to 20326 in 2014 and fell to 18057 in 2015.

    So, although roughly 100000 more women ALONE claim they have been victimized, less than 1000 more reports have been made.

    If this happened anywhere in America, the left would be protesting day and night.

  77. Mr.Vito says:

    Here’s where I got the numbers. Feel free to correct my quick overview.

  78. Mr.Vito says:

    The first thing to correct is that the stats are actually for ages 16-79.

    So, I would have to decrease the raw totals all around to whatever the 16-79 age populations of Sweden is/were. Even if that is around 75% of the population, it is still rather alarming if it were say 75000 more women victims, and 1000 more total reports.

  79. lisab says:

    well those numbers are exposed to sexual offences

    which can mean many things

  80. Mr.Vito says:

    They meant the same things from 2011 to 2015 and they are listed on that site.

  81. lisab says:

    yes and the number of reported sex offenses went down from 2014 to 2015

    although exposure went up

  82. Mr.Vito says:

    84 Yes, that’s what I’m noting… I was hoping to put to rest the theory that some police and politicians in Sweden have made that the crimes have increased, and the state is hiding or discouraging the reporting.

    But, I can’t from the data.

  83. lisab says:

    well you would not be able to do that from any reported data, because even if the number of reported rapes had gone up, which it didn’t, the state could still be under reporting

  84. Mr.Vito says:

    I noticed this on another page of the survey:

    Approximately two in ten persons (23%) believe that their quality of life is affected as a result of fear of crime, which is 10 percentage points greater than last year’s survey.

    It would be interesting how much of the fear is valid, or due to rhetoric, but a doubling seems significant.

  85. Mr.Vito says:

    “well you would not be able to do that from any reported data, because even if the number of reported rapes had gone up, which it didn’t, the state could still be under reporting”

    No, but on the other hand I wanted to see if the data generally moved together… it seemed to except for that last year. Could be an anomaly of course.

  86. Mr.Vito says:

    So in theory, the question is why are so many more Swedes claiming to be victims while reporting less?

    One explanation would be the theory they present…

    Another would be that there is a rash of events (or change in attitude) that younger women especially find offensive but not worth reporting.

  87. lisab says:

    the way they calculate the data also needs to be taken into account.

    for example, when i was an undergrad, about 18, i lived in an all girl’s dorm connected to an all boy’s dorm via a common room. the common room had pool tables, soda machines, tv’s etc.

    one night i was in the common room when approximately 20 men from the boy’s dorm ran stark naked from the boy’s dorm, through the common room, into the girl’s dorm.

    under swedish rules each woman they ran by would have been exposed to 20 sex offences. that one incident probably produced 500 sex offences by swedish reporting practices.

  88. Mr.Vito says:

    That is true… but generally, we would expect those types of events to be fairly uniform from year to year I would think.

    Also, if 25 women saw it and 500 offenses occurred, then the numbers ought to be going the other way (reporting up and victims percentage down).

  89. Mr.Vito says:

    This would be more like the scenario where someone exposes themselves to 5 women, and only one reports it.

  90. Mr.Vito says:

    That seems possible to me.

  91. Mr.Vito says:

    I am surprised the victimhood is not broken down by major and minor offenses… this seems like an oversight.

  92. Mr.Vito says:

    Or perhaps someone else can locate it there if it is in the survey…

  93. lisab says:

    “This would be more like the scenario where someone exposes themselves to 5 women, and only one reports it.”
    that was my thought. although there may have been 500 “exposures” or more that night, i am guessing it was reported once. i know i never reported it or was ever approached by anyone.

    in general, i would think that the less severe events would generate more exposures and fewer reports. that is, a guy exposing himself on the street could generate 100’s or even thousands of exposures but only 1 report.

  94. Mr.Vito says:

    Right… so I understand why the reporting is generally less. (Although underreporting rape especially is talked about as a crisis here— why not there)

    Since 2011, though there seems to be a divergence of the percentage of unreported offenses by those numbers. Could there be more a rash of streakers (or whatever similar tomfoolery) in Sweden? Could women be getting more sensitive there to those types of things while less sensitive to reporting?

    I believe it said that more of the reports were coming from women 16-24, urban, and in public. Perhaps sexual harrassment or groping?

  95. Mr.Vito says:

    Seems like they simply should have broken down the percents by rape, molestation, exploitation, and other, the way they did for the reporting.


  96. lisab says:

    Perhaps sexual harrassment or groping?
    i would think these lesser offences would be less reported although they would have more exposure.

    both reported rapes (+2000) and lesser offences (+6000) went up by about 50% each, but if my hypothesis is correct the lesser offences would generate more exposures and fewer reports which could explain the data given.

    honestly it just is not worth reporting every time someone sexually harasses you. and of course there is the issue of what is harassment vs just being rude etc.

  97. Mr.Vito says:

    If harrassment type offenses have gone up a lot, that is disconcerting and problematic, but probably not a crisis. I would be worried that those types of things might lead to more serious offenses.

    If it is more uniform, and serious crimes are increasing by these amounts as well and not being reported, then that would be far more dire.

    Interesting thoughts.

  98. lisab says:

    Fasting diet ‘regenerates diabetic pancreas’

    This is the latest study into the health benefits of the “fasting-mimicking diet”.
    People spend five days on a low calorie, low protein, low carbohydrate but high unsaturated-fat diet.
    Then they have 25 days eating what they want – so overall it mimics periods of feast and famine.
    Diabetes therapy?
    The experiments were on mice, so the diet was modified for the different species.
    But the results showed the diet regenerated a special type of cell in the pancreas called a beta cell.
    These are the cells that detect sugar in the blood and release the hormone insulin if it gets too high.
    Dr Valter Longo, from the University of Southern California, said: “Our conclusion is that by pushing the mice into an extreme state and then bringing them back – by starving them and then feeding them again – the cells in the pancreas are triggered to use some kind of developmental reprogramming that rebuilds the part of the organ that’s no longer functioning.”
    There were benefits in both type-1 and type-2 diabetes in the mouse experiments.
    Further tests on tissue samples from people with type-1 diabetes produced similar effects.

  99. lisab says:

    If harrassment type offenses have gone up a lot, that is disconcerting and problematic

    just from my own experiences, anecdotal of course, lower level offenses are way up in the usa.

    the advent of cell phones with cameras and texting capability has increased offenses dramatically.

  100. Mr.Vito says:

    Ok, true… voyeurism is on the rise.

  101. lisab says:

    yes, and also people sending other people unwanted pictures of certain body parts


    if a couple take pictures of intimate moments together and then break up, or even if the pics get released by accident, it is very common for those pictures to end up on the internet

  102. lisab says:

    imagine a situation where a teenage girl sends her boyfriend a suggestive picture

    and he shows it to all his friends or threatens to unless she does something more physical

    it is very common these days

  103. Mr.Vito says:

    I think that should be a serious offense if it is not. That is essentially extortion culminating in rape.

  104. Mr.Vito says:

    I see sexual coercion is actually one of the reported units there.

  105. lisab says:

    I think that should be a serious offense if it is not.

    if a teen boy actually spreads pictures around, yes, he is toast. because the girl is usually younger or at least the same age … it is pictures of a minor.

    if the boy has pictures but he does not spread them around, generally he is not toast

    as far as coercion is concerned, if a girl sends a boy nakkid pictures, generally she is not listened to if she later claims he wanted sex in return for not spreading them around

  106. lisab says:

    well … not that i condone this type of thinking but

    if a teenage girl sends nakkid pictures to a teenage boy, some might say she was enticing him

    and how do you separate an overly excited teenage boy from a blackmailer?

  107. lisab says:

    this is all stuff happening in schools these days … yay!

    fortunately i teach third grade … yay!

  108. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m still awake… yay!

  109. Wes says:

    Regarding McCain, although Arizona rarely defeats Senators for reelection–only two since statehood–there are instances where Arizonans become restless with perennial Senators and decrease their vote share. Both Barry Goldwater and Carl Hayden experienced this in their final reelection bids.

    One can argue Arizonans were simply saying they want fresh blood in the Senate by giving McCain only a 12-point victory and subtly advising him to retire in 2022 rather than extend his 40-year congressional career to 46 years. By seeking reelection despite having obviously passed his sell-by date and motivated Dems to turn out to beat him, Joe Arpaio may well have hurt both Trump and McCain marginally.

    I would, however, note the AZGOP needs to cull the J. D. Hayworths, Joe Arpaios, and Kelli Wards from prominent elected positions and hold their with both Latinos and whites to keep Dems from acttually gaining power in the Senate.

  110. Wes says:

    Talk about pols passing their sell-by date.

    Scott Walker is planning to seek a third term. You beat the Dems by fairly comfortable margins three times already, Scott. Move on and let another Republican run for Governor.

  111. Tina says:

    List of obumblercare taxes the rs will not repeal.

    Told you this would happen.

    But lets waste time and investigate russia because hillary failef to campaign in wi, mi, and pa.

  112. Bitterlaw says:

    I have been waiting 2 days for the giraffe to give birth. Come on, damn it. Let’s do this.

  113. Bitterlaw says:

    There was color in the world before Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz? Walt lied to me.

  114. DW says:

    Now there is a new effort to get Pluto’s status returned to ‘planet’ but those pushing this effort are over-reaching in their attempt, which based on the wording of their proposal, would make all moons in the solar system re-classified as planets.

    Not sure what is so hard about this. I disagreed with the wording of the 2006 resolution that demoted Pluto, though I agree with the demotion. I agree with critics of that resolution that the criteria line item that flunked Pluto was off base: To be a planet, the object must have cleared its orbit of other objects. This is silly. Due to the nature of the Kuiper belt and distance from the sun, if the earth was out there instead of here the earth would not be able to do that and would be flunked as a planet.

    They should go with these criteria:

    1) Needs to orbit sun directly, and not another object (knocks out moons)

    2) Needs to be roughly spherical in shape (knocks out tiny objects).

    3) Needs to orbit the sun within a narrow range relative to the ecliptic (knocks out Pluto, comets, etc).

  115. NYCmike says:

    “I won’t argue with success but many here said for months that Johnson was not campaigning aggressively enough.”

    -Many? I thought it was only the 2 most self-praising individuals at HHR, one of which could not handle being absolutely and totally wrong about the Presidential race and left quicker than Chuck Schumer to the front of a TV camera.

  116. NYCmike says:

    “Talk about pols passing their sell-by date.”

    -Don’t get this attitude. He has kept the Wisconsin government moving in the right direction, has NOT succumbed to the usual pressures of using government largess to buy more votes for certain officeholders in his same party (a la George Pataki in NY State), and will not look to run for President again until 2024 (he is probably thinking he will not have to primary Trump for any reason, and I hope he is correct).

    I say “Do your best to keep the WI gov’t in Republican hands, especially through the next census”.

  117. Bitterlaw says:

    Pluto is a planet, you hater. It is time to give it back its status. Elitist astronomers suck.

  118. Wes says:

    If Pluto becomes a planet again then Eris Ceres, and a whole host of other bodies in the asteroid and Kuyper belts become planets. I’m not opposed to the idea, but I think astronomers may be reluctant to count so many planets orbiting the Sun.

  119. DW says:

    I agreed with Pluto’s demotion Bitter, but I would be open to re-instate it, if it was deemed to be close enough to the ecliptic to count. But the argument is sound that if Pluto is a planet, then so is Eris, Makemake, Haumea, Quaoar, Sedna, Orcus, Ceres, Salacia, Varuna, Varda, Ixion, Chaos, and a host of other objects that don’t even have cool names.

  120. DW says:

    If I had make my list shorter, I would have tied Wes in that response.

  121. DW says:

    But I like the idea of Major planet / Dwarf planet.

    I would even be open to triple classification:

    1) Rocky planet
    2) Gas giant
    3) Dwarf planet

    Now that exoplanets are being studied, we will have a larger database to analyze and all these classifications will become more refined. Just like many classifications of stars.

  122. Wes says:

    I wish we had an Edgar Rice Burroughs/C. L. Moore/Leigh Brackett kind of solar system where all the planets could sustain different kinds of life. I’m not really a big fan of the lifeless rocks and gas bags all planets other than Earth in the solar system are.

  123. Wes says:

    It is cool we have our own version of the Death Star though.

  124. Bitterlaw says:


    Make Pluto A Planet Again!

  125. Wes says:

    Unfortunately Pluto is the waystation for the Mi-go, so we’re subject to invasion at any time.

  126. Mr.Vito says:

    “I’m not really a big fan of the lifeless rocks and gas bags…”

    Enough about the presidential debates!

  127. DW says:

    Wes, there is a huge push right now to locate any kind of living organism beyond earth. So much so that celebration has run ahead of facts, and even probability. Look at the announcement two days ago that a red dwarf star was found to be orbited by 7 rocky planets. The way the story unfolded and was reported it was as though all seven were found teeming with life and this star is very close–nearby!

    The reality is the seven planets all orbit so close to this star that radiation would likely be a huge issue, along with the gravitational pull causing the sort of chaos on the surface like we see on Jupiter’s moon Io.

    And nearby? 39 light years away? It would take 150,000 – 200,000 years to get there with the best technology we have. Even the best technology that people have dreamed of, but doesn’t exist would require 200 years to get there.

    Compare the 39 light years to the 4 light years distance of proxima centauri. We cannot get to proxima centauri yet in a reasonable amount of time, so there is little point to discussing something 39 light years away.

    Don’t get me wrong, that was a cool discovery two days ago, but the public isn’t well served by cheering that runs way ahead of facts and realities.

  128. DW says:

    “I’m not really a big fan of the lifeless rocks and gas bags…”

    I was thinking about the news anchors.

  129. Robbie says:

    Trump’s prepared remarks at CPAC have been very good. Unfortunately, he has a tough time sticking to the script. It’s his ad libs that often spark problems for him.

  130. DW says:

    Sometimes its good to be lucky…the New Horizons probe happened to pass by Pluto as its rotation showed the famous heart shape to the close up cameras instead of the less interesting other side of the sphere:

  131. Wes says:

    You don’t usually associate an astronomical body named after the
    Greek/Roman God of the Underworld with love, DW.

  132. NYCmike says:

    “Pluto is a planet”

    -Pluto is a puppy! Forever!

    Walt said so!

  133. NYCmike says:

    Walt Disney, not Walt Duke.

  134. NYCmike says:

    -Not sure why this story is so interesting to me, but I definitely feel that this was an orchestrated take-down, and I hope that Milo is able to tell his whole story, sell lots of books, and get back out there going after the real fascists among us, those on the left who seek to silence speech which they disagree with.

  135. Walt says:

    Life is not fair.

    Had to put my wife’s 25 big boxes of Christmas decorations away on shelves in the garage.

    Fills 10 shelves.

    But I only have 3 shelves of boxes of rocks and minerals.

    And she complains about my rocks and minerals.

    Well, I do have about 600 more pounds stored on shelves in the walk-in space under the house…
    I hope wvally and her daughter will come and take about 40 pounds…when her and her daughter’s schedule permits.

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt wants WV to help him get his rocks off? Whoa!

  137. Macs CA-25 says:

    Do we still believe in WI polls?

  138. NYCmike says:

    Only when a Republican is winning…..

  139. Conservative Populist says:

    I’d pay to see a piss-ant eat a bale of hay.

  140. Cash Cow TM says:

    “I’d pay to see a piss-ant eat a bale of hay.”

    Do you know how long that would take?
    Guess you have a lot of time on your hands.

  141. Robbie says:

    Kilgore Trout?@KT_So_It_Goes 2m
    2 minutes ago

    I’ll say this until I’m muted: Trump’s barking seal act with the media is costing him his chance at legislating his agenda

    -I totally agree with this sentiment. If Trump and Bannon spent as much time worrying about Obamacare repeal and tax reform as they have on pissing off the press, both legislative goals might already be accomplished or very close to accomplished.

    Taking a dump on the press might feel good, but what is it achieving other than furthering and heightening a contentious relationship between Trump and the press? The press is already aligned against him so why provoke them? If I hate bees, that doesn’t mean I throw rocks at beehives.

    If Trump and Bannon want to make the press look as worthless as we know them to be, score legislative victories. That’s the best way to enrage the press into insanity. Pass an agenda they despise.

  142. Robbie says:

    Verified account
    ?@MZHemingway 7h
    7 hours ago

    In same way Trumpism corrupts, NeverTrumpism corrupts. And there are a few writers I used to read who have been ruined by it. Makes me sad.

    – I think there is a lot of merit to this stance as well. Those members of the #NeverTrump movement who refuse to lay down their swords look petty and small. In effect, they have become the Japanese soldiers on the deserted islands who had no idea the war had ended and were still fighting it years later.

    I look specifically to Bill Kristol, Evan McMullan, and others like them (mostly in the foreign policy realm) who simply can’t move past the election. Whenever I see them on TV, I just roll my eyes. For instance Egg McMuffin claimed Rex Tillerson was a Russian plant simply because Trump had nominated him and because Exxon had done business in Russia.

    I’ve certainly been critical of Trump’s persona since he’s taken office, but I don’t wake up every day with the goal of hoping to see him fail. Frankly, I’ve been surprised as how strong and conservative his cabinet appointments have been.

    If Jeb Bush (who was brutalized by Trump), or Mitt Romney, or Bob Gates, or Rand Paul can either stay quiet or work to help Trump succeed, then why can’t Kristol or George Will?

  143. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    February 24, 2017 at 7:20 am
    Talk about pols passing their sell-by date.
    Scott Walker is planning to seek a third term. You beat the Dems by fairly comfortable margins three times already, Scott. Move on and let another Republican run for Governor.

    – I’d like to see him run for Senate, but my guess is he believes the governorship is a better path to the White House. JMO, but I believe his White House chances came and went with 2016. If he wants a longer career, the Senate seems to be a better place.

  144. Robbie says:

    It was nice to see Trump have calm, more traditional week as president. There were very few Tweets, he had a nice visit to a museum, and he generally stayed on message. He veered off message at CPAC today, but the veers were relatively tame.

    I believe this was Trump single best week as president and by a wide margin. A presidency conducted like this week gets him an easy re-election.

  145. CG says:

    Et tu Robbie?

    What a ridiculous comparison.

    There was not a “war.” There was no “peace treaty.” This is about being an American citizen. The right of free speech and expression can never be neglected.

    There is no “war” to “end”. There is a country to care about and that goes for when there is a Republican or a Democrat President, or a great one or a horrible one.

    Newsflash for you- The Trumpists on this site and elsewhere will never accept you no matter how much you try to cozy up to them or gain their approval, so goodluck with that.

  146. messy says:

    148. Then he attacked the first and 14th amendments. He’s the enemy of he American people.

  147. NYCmike says:


    Fair points.

    In regards to Walker, he needs to physically and mentally “age” a bit. he still looks like a young man, and I think his appearance takes away from any serious positions he espouses.

    Imagine him with Putin – the optics of that are bad for the U.S., we would look weak. (my opinion)

  148. Robbie says:


    The idea I’m trying to suck up to the Trumpists is just laughable. I have said since the day he won, that while I have serious issues with his temperament, I hope he is successful. Why? Simple. The fortunes of the Republican Party now rise and fall with Trump’s success or failure.

    These apocalyptic claims that Trump is suppressing free speech or ruling as an authoritarian are just laughable. If any of that was the case, why are the press allowed to report negative stories about him or allowed to participate in press conferences like the one he had last week.

    I repeat again. The #NeverTrump crowd (Kristol, Will, McMullin, others) threaten to become Japanese soldiers who don’t know the war has ended. Perpetual and continuous harping is petty and small. Basically, they’re threatening to take their ball and go home.

  149. CG says:

    So you’ve become janz with ” you are against the American Revolution” arguments.


    When an election is over, the Constitution is not surrendered. People have the right to speak out against him. He is not the country.

    As for the future of the Republican Party, irregardless of successful results for the country, which everyone should want, and which is irrelevant to “supporting” any President, if the party is to deserve to survive as it has been, the eventual wiping out of Trumpism and the stain he has put upon the party is essential. Otherwise, the people who have serious issues with what he represents will want no part of the Party. You can go ahead and accommodate the Trumpists and the Populists and the Nationalists if you want.

    Making WWII analogies is just preposterous, but if that is what people want to do, MD must right to use the term Vichy Republicans.

  150. CG says:

    Final point-

    The word “never” has a very clear definition. You may change your mind from day to day but some people who say never actually mean never.


  151. Robbie says:

    CG or is it Corey?

    You are free to join the “resistance” with Hillary if that makes you feel better. I did not want to see Trump become the nominee and I did NOT vote for him on election day. Truth be told, despite the SCOTUS, I thought it would be better for the Republican Party, longterm, for him to lose.

    Well, he won and I was faced with two choices. I could either make lemonade out of lemons, or just remain entrenched in my permanent opposition to him. I chose the former, with reservations, because I hoped Ryan and McConnell could force him to the “right”. And on almost every appointment he’s made, Trump has chosen people who Jeb, Rubio, or Romney could have chosen.

    If Trump falls down on the job and proves to everyone it was a mistake to elect him, I’ll certainly say it. I’ve definitely had no problem criticizing his performance in the first 35 days. That said, I’m not going to actively root for his failure or assume the worst on every single thing he does as the dead enders in the #NeverTrump crowd have..

    Bill Kristol, Evan McMullin, Rick Wilson, and the other #NeverTrump professionals have put themselves in the position of hoping, if not advocating, for Trump to fail. If they truly care about the conservative movement, they wouldn’t be doing this. They would, instead, be making an effort to co-opt Trump as a way to influence him and produce conservative results. Instead, almost certainly because of pride, they have chosen to whine and question every move he’s made.

  152. CG says:

    And what are your thoughts about the Pope these days?

    Not long ago, as a Catholic, you were refusing to even acknowledge his legitimacy or use his Papal name and were openly calling for him to step down. Do you not think the future of the Church depends upon the “success” of Pope Francis?

    I won’t tell you how to be a Catholic, especially since I am not one, but I don’t think you get to tell me or Evan McMullin or anyone else how to be an American. Had Hillary Clinton become President, the opposition that we would have had to her, while still hoping for the success of the country, would not have been questioned.

    Agree or disagree with Trump however you want. I am sure you will have lengthy posts about how terrible he is one day and the next day you will be trying to show the crowd here how much you approve of him, but this is not World War II.

    He is not the country itself and those who oppose him, whether on the left or the right, are not Imperial soldiers trying to fight America, before or after the Surrender of Japan.

  153. Sheeple Jr says:

    Is CG the same guy who during the primaries ranted and raved about Trump and his supporters being facists and Nazis and then when called on it, ranted and raved that he was innocent of the accusations?

  154. CG says:

    No, I don’t think that person exists, but if you want to know my thoughts, Trump certainly ran a campaign with fascist and authoritarian undertones and has continued along those lines. I do not think he is a Nazi nor are the overwhelming majority of people who strongly supported him. There are definitely some neo-Nazis though who were very vocal and enthusiastic about supporting Trump and he even did them the honor of re-Tweeting them on occasion.

  155. Sheeple Jr says:

    There was a lot of strong,fierce political debate at this site during the campaign, but somebody named Corey stood out from the rest and his comments were indelible since they were borderline sociopathic!

  156. CG says:

    That may have been Cory though. I’m Corey. I largely agreed with him on Trump himself, but he went far further in regards to Trump supporters and people got confused over that with the names.

    I said that there were decent people who voted for Trump, just like there are decent people who voted for Hillary. It does not make either of them less wrong though in my view to have done so.

  157. CG says:

    I would think that the people on here who openly called for Trump to die of a heart attack before the election, but who now talk about how he has won them over and those who express opposition to him are the problem were “fiercer” than me, since I would have never hoped for someone’s death.

  158. jason says:

    Corey is still fighting the primary….the “decent people voted for Hillary” is true, but its also true that any conservative or Republican who voted for amoral scum like the Clintons lost any right to be critical of Trump on moral grounds, period.

    Nobody here was more anti-Trump here than yours truly.

    But the election is over, he won, and I won’t be part of the MSM and Democrat “movement” to delegitimize him.

    I will support him where I can. He generally has good cabinet picks, good SCOTUS pick. His moves on deregulation, energy independence (pipelines, etc.) are good. I hope he replaces Obamacare. Builds up the military, keeping commitments to NATO, Israel and our allies. His war on the MSM is great. I have no problem with vetting people from countries that support terror. I hope he comes up with significant tax cuts, that will help get jobs much faster than tariffs.

    Arguing with Mexico about the wall? Stupid. Cancelling TPP? Stupid. Threatening do away with Nafta? Stupid. Pretending a trillion dollar infrastructure project is smart? Stupid. Getting bogged down on a lot of unimportant crap? Stupid.

    Trump has not “won me over”. But we should all be hoping he is successful. The country needs it. There are now different fish to fry.

    Corey can stay mired with the primaries if he wants. The world moves on.

  159. lisab says:

    if pluto self identifies as a planet, then who are we to disagree

  160. Robbie says:

    CG or is it Corey?

    First of all, let’s be clear about something. There are no legitimate comparisons between how I might feel about Trump or about the pope. None.

    I have nothing good to say about the current pope. At least with Trump, there are limitations to what he can and can’t do. The Congress can stymie him and he is term limited as well. There are no such checks and balances on the pope and it’s clear he seems determine to change the very essence of what it means to be Catholic.

    I’m sorry the election didn’t work out the way you would have liked. Trump was never my choice either, but he won and the future of the Republican Party, which will outlast Trump, depends on his success of failure. So for that reason, I am hoping for the best.

    Remaining on your high horse about Trump or claiming you’re too good to countenance him is nothing more than claiming moral superiority. I don’t claim to be morally superior to anymore.

  161. CG says:

    So Robbie, that just makes you a hypocrite.

    Dislike the Pope all you want, but if you feel strongly about that, you ought to understand that I and people like me feel the same way about Trump. He isn’t even supposed to be infallible. Speaking out as American citizens is one of those “checks and balances.” We have every right to criticize Congress too. I do not expect they will be doing too much to “stymie” him but time will tell.

    I haven’t been speaking out against him much on HHR though, because it is clear, that for now at least, the people in here want the comment section to be a Donald Trump Validation Circle. Not my scene. It’s why others have left too and aren’t even bothering to drop in on occasion. So maybe you can get jason and Mr. Vito to accept you now. Goodluck.

    Finally, I definitely believe I am morally superior to Donald J. Trump, and thankfully so is almost every other American.

  162. Robbie says:

    At some point, Bill Kristol and the others who stand in total opposition to Trump must realize an important fact. The voters who make up the Republican Party choose Trump for a reason. They chose him because the issues on which he campaigned resonated with them.

    I was slow to accept this fact, but the base of the Republican Party has moved on from the views of Reagan. After all, it’s been 40 years since Reagan first ran in 1976. To assume the very issues he pushed then would be the same today is just not the way things work. And if the Reagan view of conservatism was still the dynamo that Kristol and his cohorts believe, then why didn’t Romney win in 2012?

    We didn’t realize it at the time, but Santorum was the canary in the coal mine in 2012. His play towards the working class voters on trade, wages, and immigration resonated against Romney because that’s where the party base was moving. Trump saw that when others didn’t and it’s why he won the nomination. In fact, Teresa May is running on much the same platform and having smashing results too.

    To say we need to wipe the stain of Trumpism off the Republican Party sounds great except the core tenants of Trumpism are precisely what Republican voters seem to want. Just as Nixon moved the party away from Ike and Reagan moved away from Nixon, Trump is moving on from Reagan. It’s just the natural progression of politics.

    I didn’t want to see it last year either, but that’s the way it is.

  163. NYCmike says:

    Another sign that Staten Island Chuck was correct about an early spring:

    I smell sanctimonious stubborness – “CG” must have paid a visit.

  164. NYCmike says:

    Other than an EO that clumsily told immigration officers to ENFORCE EXISTING LAW, Trump has not done much, yet “CG” is beside himself.

    What policy is he protesting? What “check” does he want to “balance” this GREAT UNCONTROLLED POWER named President Trump?

    Give some details, or else stop your blathering.

  165. Robbie says:


    Where have I said people shouldn’t be critical of Trump. Ninety percent of the time, the HHR comment section is after me for being too critical of Trump.

    Criticize Trump all you want. I have repeatedly criticized his temperament since he was inaugurated. That said, I am not rooting for him to fail.

    On the other hand, Kristol and his gang stand in permanent opposition to everything Trump does and they are, effectively, advocating that he fail. That’s ridiculous

    I also think Kristol and his cohorts have simply not accepted the fact the Republican Party voters have moved on from Reagan. They better figure it out though or their critiques will continue to fall flat.

  166. Mr.Vito says:

    “I definitely believe I am morally superior to Donald J. Trump…”

    Tell him to get in line.

  167. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    February 24, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    Finally, I definitely believe I am morally superior to Donald J. Trump, and thankfully so is almost every other American.

    – Pride goeth before the fall.

  168. Mr.Vito says:

    “Pride goeth before the fall.”

    That already happened on November 8th.

  169. NYCmike says:

    I think “CG” may have gotten his ass kicked by a New Yorker, on 5th Avenue, near a Trump building.

  170. NYCmike says:

    “CG” is so morally superior that he admonished Denny Hastert for being a pervert, but absolutely hates Trump for lesser offenses.

  171. NYCmike says:

    Either way, “CG” always makes me laugh!

    Make The Weekend Great Again! Go To Disney World!

  172. Mr.Vito says:

    “Either way, “CG” always makes me laugh!”

    I feel rather sorry for him.

  173. Alternative facts says:

    So crazy ass Trump supporter shouts “Get out of my country” and then shoots two Indians.

    India is the largest democracy in the world
    India is one our top allies
    Indians practice Hinduism, not Islam.

    More of this to come. Have we a condemnation from Trump? I won’t hold my breath!

  174. Tina says:

    So now jebot 1 is counseling jebot 2


    I need another site.

  175. Alternative facts says:

    Jewish cemetery vandalized. President Trump with the weakest statement ever.

    Perhaps our so-called president should stop using a known anti-Semitic phrase like “America First” and stop emboldening the alt-right white supremacist groups with such sad dog whistles.

  176. Tina says:

    Lievin, a comservative is not one who beleives in a small gubment.


    First we need to take the austrialian refugees because they are our ally.

    This radio host is done. I forgot,that his boss supported quotas and tariffs.

  177. Michael says:

    Why is “America First” anti-semitic? Is “Made in USA” also anti-semitic? Not sure I understand the correlation between that and being anti-semitic.

    And you do understand his grand kids are being raised into jewish culture and his son in law who helped in his campaign is Jewish.

  178. Tina says:

    One or more of his sons also married a jew.

    But yes, he is anti semittic because leftist talking point saya so.

  179. Alternative facts says:

    Google it. It’s something the Anti Defamation League had repeatedly asked him not to use. It’s a dog whistle for those neo Nazis.

    Great that he has family that is Jewish. But maybe you forgot who is his main advisor, the biggest anti-semite of them all Steve Bannon.

    Did you miss the Holocaust statement?
    Did you miss the weak statement on the Jewish cemetery vandalism?

  180. Mr.Vito says:

    I give this parody a C at best.

  181. Robbie says:

    Donald J. TrumpVerified account?@realDonaldTrump 24m24 minutes ago

    FAKE NEWS media knowingly doesn’t tell the truth. A great danger to our country. The failing @nytimes has become a joke. Likewise @CNN. Sad!

    – While I want to see Trump succeed, I also recognize he has his downsides and Twitter is a big one.

    Trump’s war with the press is a losing one. It may energize the 35% of the country that will be with him no matter what, but what are he and Bannon looking to gain from this?

    This is becoming repetitive and boring. He needs to move on and start pushing his tax reform and Obamacare repeal plans.

  182. PresidentPaul! says:

    CNN and NYTimes should have been banned long ago.

    Trump is a counter puncher, and he’s realized that there is no honor in those organizations (fake news organizations)

  183. Alternative facts says:

    OK, let’s just repeal freedom of press and install State run stations like Breitbart and Fox News. Oh wait, we’re already there. Heil Trump!

  184. Mr.Vito says:

    As I’ve said, the MSM is DEEPLY regretting inventing the term ‘fake news’…

    yet another backfire…

  185. Michael says:

    What’s wrong with you? He only banned CNN and a few liberal MSMs because they write fake articles. They are not even considered the press!

  186. PresidentPaul! says:

    “OK, let’s just repeal freedom of press and install State run stations like Breitbart and Fox News.”

    No thanks. Let’s defund PBS and NPR instead.

    And keep fake news CNN out of the presidential briefings.

  187. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Environmental hypocrites who were protesting against the Dakota Access oil pipeline, burned oil to keep themselves warm! They also left enough litter to fill more than 250 garbage trucks!”

    Oh joy. Such an example of sustainability.

  188. Barrett says:

    #185 – Repetitive, boring, and shameful.

    I disagree with CNN and NYT 90% of the time, but barring the media from press briefings and choosing who does/doesn’t attend is an outright violation of the first amendment.

    I don’t give a crap if it’s a republican or democrat doing it, it should not be done.

  189. PresidentPaul! says:

    Thomas Jefferson on fake news

    It is a melancholy truth, that a suppression of the press could not more compleatly deprive the nation of it’s benefits, than is done by it’s abandoned prostitution to falsehood. Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper.

    I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false.

    CNN goes beyond fake news and is now what Bannon terms the “opposition party”

  190. PresidentPaul! says:

    Press is part of the swamp.

    Best to Drain the press pool.

  191. Bitterlaw says:

    I think it was a huge mistake to ban media outlets. The only people who think CNN and the NYT are objective already hate Trump. Letting them attend the briefing would be a huge zzzzzzzz. Now, they get to be the story and every other media organization will back them. If a story is wrong, you say why it’s wrong. You don’t make the reporter look like a First Amendment martyr.

  192. PresidentPaul! says:

    EXCLUSIVE: White House Fingers John McCain As Media Leak; Believes U.S. Senator Eavesdropped on Tru

  193. Bitterlaw says:

    I see that Corey returned to praise himself and condemn us. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. He thinks that good people left because HHR is now Pro-Trump? BS. Let’s look at the main posters who departed:

    Author – Self-promoting millennial douche. Claimed that he had to vote for Hillary to prevent his sister from being ordered to commit war crimes. He ignored the Clinton’s hatred of the military and the blood that flowed at Benghazi. Declared himself the voice of a new generation but runs when challenged. By the end, he would only post very early in the morning when people were not here.

    MD- Arrogant self-proclaimed genius. Promised to be relentless and then ran away when his absurd 8-11% Hillary landslide prediction was wrong. Rather than accept being wrong like almost everybody here was wrong, he condemns us as Vichy Republicans and collaborators with evil Trump. He was proud of his wife for organizing Hillary voters but raged at us for criticizing her for it. I consider MD my A-hole and my friend but he really did not show character when it mattered most. You don’t run. You fight. I wish he would return.

  194. NYCmike says:


  195. jason says:

    “Trump’s war with the press is a losing one.”

    Reminds me of the Paulbot theory that if you are nice to terrorists they will be nice to you.

    Memo to Wobbie: the press has declared war on Trump, he has no alternative but to fight back.

    Only a naive moron would think if Trump is nice to the press they will be nice to him.

  196. NYCmike says:

    I like him hitting back, but banning them is not the way to go.

    I would rather him either limit their access, maybe by like having them alternate days with each other, or simply don’t call on them whatsoever. Make them report what questions were asked and how they were answered. Make them prove they can be trustworthy since any of their reports would be reflected in the official transcripts of the press conference.

  197. NYCmike says:


    Don’t forget Cory, although he said he would NOT come back if Trump won, I think.

  198. jason says:

    Corey is now the moral compass of HHR? LOL

    This is the guy who thinks it was morally acceptable to vote for Hillary Clinton, the most ethically challenged candidate in history?

    The chutzpah is astounding.

  199. NYCmike says:


    I don’t think he thought it “morally acceptable” to vote for either candidate, but maybe you are correct. You have been right a couple of times a year….maybe this is one of them.

  200. NYCmike says:

    Just the thought of that hag holding a press conference with an adoring, uninterested in truth “free press” nauseates me. I don’t mind the press going after Trump at all, because it shows more about their “objectivity” than it does about his governance (so far, anyway).

    “CG” is acting like a loony bird.

  201. NYCmike says:


  202. Wes says:

    Corey will never get over voters’ decisive rejection of JEB! last year.

  203. Mr.Vito says:

    AriFleischer confirmed on twitter that what Trump’s staff did by choosing which media attended the gaggle is nothing unusual.

    More Fake news.

  204. Mr.Vito says:

    NYT flat out said in their own paper they felt no obligation to cover Trump objectively.

    I could not care less if they are left out.

  205. biomom says:

    The worst anti-Trump paper is the Washington Post and they were allowed in. So this was probably pretty random and is being overhyped.

  206. messy says:

    210. That was after they were left out.

  207. messy says:

    177. D’nesh D’sousa and Bobby Jindal are both Indians.

  208. messy says:

    213. So is our new Ambassador to the UN.

  209. Mr.Vito says:

    “That was after they were left out.”

    Uh… that was during the campaign.

  210. Mr.Vito says:

    Messy proves Trump isnt on board with the random nutjob in Kansas.

  211. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    February 25, 2017 at 9:02 am
    “Trump’s war with the press is a losing one.”
    Reminds me of the Paulbot theory that if you are nice to terrorists they will be nice to you.
    Memo to Wobbie: the press has declared war on Trump, he has no alternative but to fight back.
    Only a naive moron would think if Trump is nice to the press they will be nice to him.

    – I’m not suggesting he not hit back. I just think the constant stream of tweets is the wrong avenue. Call me old fashioned, but I would like to think a president has more important things to do than watch cable news and tweet complaints about what he just saw on Don Lemon’s CNN show.

    If Trump wants to change the media coverage of himself, I believe the best way to achieve that is to get to work on Obamacare repeal and tax reform. Legislative victories that the people seem to want are the best way to change the press coverage. On top of that, his approval rating will climb.

    I think Twitter is responsible for 90% of Trump’s problems and he’d be wise to stop thinking it is the medium that will solve his issues with press coverage.

  212. Cash Cow TM says:

    Which of the following will end FIRST?

    A. Trump anti press statements and histrionics

    B. leftists on social media (FB etc.) anti Trump diatribes bout DJT not my president, he is Hitler, etc.

    C. Hollywood anti-Trump rants and screeds

    D. Media anti-Trump stories

  213. Cash Cow TM says:


    Which will be LAST to end?

    A. Trump anti press statements and histrionics

    B. leftists on social media (FB etc.) anti Trump diatribes bout DJT not my president, he is Hitler, etc.

    C. Hollywood anti-Trump rants and screeds

    D. Media anti-Trump stories
    I say “C”

  214. Gelt Goose says:


  215. Cash Cow TM says:

    Alternative facts

    fat intern salt cave
    slant five tea cart
    vital neat fern cast

    start native calf E
    native fart scale T
    native scarf tale T

  216. Cash Cow TM says:

    Why is trump going out to do campaign style rallies?

    He needs to park his ego and get to work 24/7.

    People (and cows) want results.

  217. janz says:

    So much of what Trump does and says has been replicated in perhaps a more PC form, but nonetheless has the same intent. Whether it’s a call to curb illegal immigration, watch and vet people more closely from failed states, micromanage certain unfriendly news organizations, usage of EOs, do rallies to churn up their base, and the like, examples can easily be found in previous administration.

    What’s happening with the Trump administration is a massive amount of leaks from within a disenchanted, hold-over government bureaucracy, aided and abetted by an angry, biased press who has upped the wattage on any negative fragment or innuendo surfacing which might weaken the WH’s chances of implementing their agenda.

  218. Robbie says:

    Cash Cow TM gets it right. It’s time for Trump to get to work 24/7.

  219. Mr.Vito says:

    “I think Twitter is responsible for 90% of Trump’s problems I think Twitter is responsible for 90% of Trump’s problems”

    I think illegal, and as we’ve seen, grossly misrepresented leaks are responsible for 90% of his problems. The media is 50% of that problem. Ryan and others are at work on the 200 day plan for taxes, immigration, regulation, and Obamacare. The best thing Trump can do is make sure it is not sabotaged.

  220. lisab says:

    barring the media from press briefings and choosing who does/doesn’t attend is an outright violation of the first amendment.

    actually many news outlets don’t get invited to press briefings

    and cnn and the nytimes are free to write anything they want about it

  221. Mr.Vito says:

    I’ve told you guys for years I score closer to lisab on ideology tests than to you.

    Now Trump is president and suddenly lisab agrees with me more often than ever. WTF?

  222. lisab says:

    it is just silly to think two unelected corporations like cnn and the nytimes are somehow bastions of freedom seeking to hold the president’s feet to the fire over constitutional issues … where were their concerns when obama put through the fee no tax no fee obamacare?

    they are for profit enterprises that are selling to their customers

    even from a capitalist standpoint, they had their chance, now two new media outlets will get their chance

  223. lisab says:

    Keith Ellison might be new dnc chair

    alan dershowitz threatens to leave party if that happens

    dershowitz will support “country over party”

  224. Mr.Vito says:

    228 Not only that but huge holdings in these networks are had by the very billionaire globalists and corporations that hate Trump, like Carlos Slim, Bezos, Immelt, and the like.

  225. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    February 25, 2017 at 12:44 pm
    “I think Twitter is responsible for 90% of Trump’s problems I think Twitter is responsible for 90% of Trump’s problems”
    I think illegal, and as we’ve seen, grossly misrepresented leaks are responsible for 90% of his problems. The media is 50% of that problem. Ryan and others are at work on the 200 day plan for taxes, immigration, regulation, and Obamacare. The best thing Trump can do is make sure it is not sabotaged.

    – Here’s why I feel this way. Most people pay little attention to what’s in the pages of the New York Times or the Washington Post. The same goes for what leads the newscasts of NBC, ABC, or CBS. Yet by using his Twitter feed to highlight his beefs with these news stories, Trump brings unneeded and unnecessary attention to them. He gives them life they otherwise wouldn’t have.

  226. Mr.Vito says:

    231 Robbie, I understand why you feel this way. People elected him because he is perceived as a fighter that will kick over the tables and drain the swamp, and do it his way. I happen to think his twitter ‘rants’ were a large part of that perception. People decided he wasn’t ‘one of them’ because he basically set fire to all pf ‘their’ norms. I think we are just going to have to put up with it when he feels it’s time to put something out there.

  227. Mr.Vito says:

    In the end, the congress needs to deliver, and that is what THEY (and then ultimately I think HE) will be judged by.

    I saw in a poll where if nothing gets done, basically HALF of Americans will blame the republicans in congress.

  228. Mr.Vito says:

    It may be time to have a real conversation about what freedom of the press means and which side is really trying to stifle it.

    Who is the press? The big boys who say they are the press and have been dangerously close to losing their independence from government?

  229. Wes says:

    It used to be that the press provided itself on individuality. Notice Walter Cronkite was critical of Vietnam despite supporting LBJ for example. Since Bill Clinton was in office, however. the press has increasingly aligned largely as a mouthpiece for the Democrats. The examples are endless, ranging from Judy Woodruff’s impassioned plea for Ralph Nader to depart the presidential race in 2000 to the overt cheerleading for Hillary Clinton by the media en masse last year.

    At least MSNBC is honest in its far-left bias while other media outlets simply feign objectivity while repeating ad nauseum and ad infinitum what the DNC says.

    It says much about the press they have abandoned principal for party as Republicans have become increasingly competitive–and in some cases dominant–in national politics, much to the Left’s unbridled chagrin.

  230. Tina says:

    Cnn should be banned for fake news. There is no right for any group to be there. Obama had his pet reporters and media outlets. What goes around, comes around.

    No concerned avout it because with the fake news reports, the media us just getting less and less credible. Nobody is watching the crud.

  231. lisab says:

    cnn and the nytimes may find out

    much to their chagrin

    that mr. and mrs. midwest

    don’t read/watch those outlets and are not that upset about them being not invited

  232. Tina says:

    Uneeded and unnecessary.

    They would beat up on him like any r. You have to fight back, and they just do not like it.

    They are used to the karl rove and w. No rebuttal, just take the incoming. Lies becomes truths and you then have a disastrous presidency.

    You either hit or get hit.

  233. Tina says:

    Cnn the same media group that paid hush momey to saddam to ccover thingd up in iraq. They are just garbage.

  234. lisab says:

    the thing is

    do the cnn/nytimes reporters ACTUALLY have to attend to write their stories?

    i am pretty sure their stories are already written

  235. Cash Cow TM says:

    “However, let’s not pretend that the media’s predicament is unwarranted. They have set themselves up, with a most violent fervor, to be the opposition party to the president, reporting anything against him with a ferocity that lay dormant for the past eight years. Their sudden Journalistic Renaissance has nothing to do with relocating its way and everything to do with partisan ideology. They have gone into this fight knowing who Donald Trump is.

    Whats more, the media is straight-up lying when they say this is a violation of the First Amendment. The First Amendment prohibits the restriction of the free press from reporting. Had all media been booted from the White House, yeah, I think you’d make a pretty good case. But it wasn’t all media. It was the media that, rightly or wrongly, Trump perceives as malicious. To say it is a First Amendment violation is to say CNN and the outlets who were barred are the only source of information. That is simply not true.

    That isn’t to say that what happened was right or fair. Trump’s White House should, in fact, face pushback for its actions Friday. Limiting press access to events is certainly not the transparency he offered when he was running for president. His administration is doing everything it can to make an enemy of the press and turn public opinion against it.

    One would absolutely hope that the administration chooses to let the public know what is going on through the press. But, let’s not pretend the press has proven itself worthy of that access. Multiple journalists, and the outlets they write for, have openly declared war on Trump, vowing to comb through every minute detail of his presidency in defiance to his election. Such journalistic passion for the truth was nowhere near so evident during the Obama Administration.”

  236. Wes says:

    Ironically CNN is based in a state where Democrats have flatlined as a party.

  237. Cash Cow TM says:


    were you there?

  238. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sandy Eggo Citizen,

    How is the dam situation in CA?

  239. Mr.Vito says:

    With the caveat that the exit polls were pretty bad originally, I have looked and found the following:

    In a two-way race question:

    Trump keeps NC, FL, OH, IA
    Clinton keeps CO, NM, NH, ME, VA

    Toss up tilt Trump: GA
    Toss up tilt Clinton: NV
    Pure toss-up: WI, PA

    Clinton wins MI


    So, it appears the third parties likely did not make any clear difference in the final presidential result, except possibly in PA and WI.

  240. Mr.Vito says:

    If third parties changed the election, it would likely have been in the rust belt…

    MN, WI, MI, PA

  241. Cash Cow TM says:


  242. Cash Cow TM says:

    Strange that the Ds have decided to go only 2/3 moonbat.

  243. Mr.Vito says:

    That’s the guy who apologized for saying the primary was rigged against Bernie.

  244. Tina says:

    The contracts for the border wall will ne awarded in april. Are the never trumpeters, drats, going to sue?

  245. Tina says:

    Dershowitz-‘If Keith Ellison Is Elected Chairman Of DNC I Will Quit The Democratic Party After 60 Loyal Years’ (VIDEO)

  246. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    246. Cow, The dams are holding; they are finally draining them appropriately to prevent future overflows. More water is being drained from Oroville now than coming into it. Previously, because of the drought and climate change they refused to believe the dams would completely fill up.

    Gov. Brown now wants Trump to pay for fixing California’s dams and water infrastructure.

  247. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Thankfully Trump is working with the Republican Congressman for the Oroville area.

  248. lisab says:


    were you there?

    nah … i am a good witch 🙂

    we don’t do curses

  249. Cash Cow TM says:


  250. Robbie says:

    Restarting Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines:
    Support 38%
    Oppose 51%
    (Quinnipiac U, RV 2/16-21)

    – Here’s a problem Trump may face so long as his approval rating remains low. Anything he supports may be viewed negatively simply because he backs it. The Keystone project has long been viewed favorably. Now, this poll suggests not anymore. This is a reason why I think the tango he’s having with the press is a waste of time.

  251. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump
    Congratulations to Thomas Perez, who has just been named Chairman of the DNC. I could not be happier for him, or for the Republican Party!

    Trolling 101.

  252. Tina says:

    Now, we got to get 2lb dumbell and the blue rino moving. Passs some legislation and repeal and replace ovubmlercare.

  253. Robbie says:

    In regards to my post in 258, I think it’s fair to question whether the Quinnipiac poll on the Keystone and Dakota pipelines is accurate.

  254. Tina says:

    Tom Perez: ‘White People NOT Entitled to Protection Under Voting Rights Act’

  255. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    246. Cow, There is an excellent illustration of how full the dams are in California now versus a year ago a couple of tweets in this link:

  256. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    258. At this point, consider the Quinnipiac polls questionable, since they have been so wrong in many of their polls.

    Agree with you that Trump’s negatives may have an impact on polling, but the point is the pipeline is going to be completed in a short period of time. A good leader does not govern by polls. Reagan initially saw his polling numbers tank.

    The problem I see for Trump is he has not transitioned into assuming the demeanor of a president; he is being petty and still sending out his nasty tweets. Its going to sour the public and Republican Congress against him. Refusing to allow certain news agencies to attend his press conferences was just dumb.

    By contrast Pence is even beginning to impress a lot of Democrats.

  257. Awesome says:

    The fu$&ing Jeb coc-sucker has no hesitation in posting fake polls and fake news.

    Suck it, moron. Trump is president. For 8 years.

    Though certainly not your president.

  258. Awesome says:

    Nobody cares about the press. Or the republican congress, for that matter.

    If trump voters cared about the press, or the republican congress, trump would not have won the nomination. Or the presidency.

    You morons keep spouting the same nonsense, like you missed the last 2 years.

  259. Awesome says:

    Which trump supporter will pull his support for trump because he will not talk with cnn or politico?

  260. Awesome says:


    I don’t think most of them idiots here even know a Trump voter.

  261. jason says:

    don’t think most of them idiots here”

    We really need Betsy DeVos.

  262. Bitterlaw says:

    I saw La La Land last night. It was good but I do not get the buzz about it.

    I know. gayest post of the week winner.

  263. Bitterlaw says:

    So :Trump: now posts as “Awesome.” Got it.

  264. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 25, 2017 at 10:53 pm
    258. At this point, consider the Quinnipiac polls questionable, since they have been so wrong in many of their polls.

    The problem I see for Trump is he has not transitioned into assuming the demeanor of a president; he is being petty and still sending out his nasty tweets. Its going to sour the public and Republican Congress against him. Refusing to allow certain news agencies to attend his press conferences was just dumb.
    By contrast Pence is even beginning to impress a lot of Democrats.

    – I totally agree. Trump has not transitioned from candidate to president and it has hurt him. The sooner he realizes that, the better off he’ll be.

  265. Robbie says:

    For the last decade, I’ve written here I feel the NBC/WSJ poll is probably the best measure of where the public stands on candidates and policies. So if they have Trump’s approval rating at 44% as they do today, then that’s what it is.

    I see the NBC/WSJ to be both a positive and a negative. The positive is this. After what was clearly a very bad first month, Trump still has a mid forties rating. I see 45% as the new 50% for Trump since there’s clearly a hidden vote. It suggests to me he has a solid floor for now and room to grow, if he cuts out the nonsense.

    The negative is Trump is already at 44% after just five weeks. There’s certainly plenty of time to reverse his approval rating, but here’s the question I have. Are Trump and Bannon even concerned with the approval rating? I don’t get the sense Bannon is particularly concerned with holding the House and expanding the Senate majority in 2018. And as we know, there is a very direct correlation between presidential approval rating and performance in a midterm election.

  266. jason says:

    Are Trump and Bannon even concerned with the approval rating? ”


    They know the MSM has declared war on them.

    They know better than trying to appease leftist ideologues in the media.

    I am glad Trump is not going to the WH Correspondents Dinner. Let them have their own a la Pravda party.

  267. jason says:

    The MSM wants to make sure everyone who voted for Hillary continues to hate Trump.

    In that they are successful.

    However, it doesn’t seem like they have been able to peel away those who did vote for him.

  268. Soccer Moron says:

    Trump is Awesome.

  269. jason says:

    Let’s face it.

    Tweets are one of the few ways he can get HIS message out, unfiltered by the MSM.

    He would be a fool to give that up.

  270. Tina says:

    Nbc surf and turf poll, are surf and turf still doing this poll, which had a terrible 2016.

    60 percent hopeful

    I beleive this number is at the highest in over a decade.

    Cabeat, nbc poll had a terrible 2016. You coukd tell since they were using survey monkey as a second polling stream.

  271. Tina says:

    If he tweets, the media has to cover the tweet.

    He has perfected twitter to a tee.

    His message gets out unfiltered.

    Karl rove, the socialist son, et al cannnot figure this out.

  272. Tina says:

    I came across this tweet, not sure if it is true or accurate

    13,506 Marines applied for White House Detail last week. None applied over the last 8 years, they had to be assigned!….Go figure

  273. jason says:

    I am not convinced Trump can continue to win the war with the MSM.

    I am convinced he has no other choice.

  274. Tina says:

    At best, he can stalemate them. Rs usually surrender to the media, case in point, w and karl rove.

  275. Wes says:

    RIP Bill Paxton.

  276. Robbottie says:

    Gov. McAuliffe, popular governor of a swing state, has declined to run against Trump in 2020. He clearly sees after Trump’s stellar performance over the first month that the political winds will be against him. It will be fascinating to see how many more top Democrats bow out of the race. The good news for them is it is not too late to right the ship if they can stop the racial polemics and cobble together a plan.

  277. J. Cutler says:

    I hope I end up back in Denver!

  278. Robbottie says:

    So Dershowitz said he would abandon the D party if Ellison were elected chair.

    He lost 235-200 and was promptly named deputy chair.

    Has Dershowitz commented on that?

  279. Mr.Vito says:

    I did the Robbottie post, by the way. Since MFG is not around, I call dibs on it for poking at our aviator friend.

  280. Mr.Vito says:

    Just looked at RCP.

    17 headlines, and only 2 are blatantly anti-Trump

    Guess who wrote them?

    How Trump’s Privilege Makes Him Blind to Bigotry
    Michael D’Antonio, CNN

    Excluding the Press Is Petulant and Un-American
    Jake Tapper, CNN


    Shocking, I know.

  281. Wes says:

    Democrats won the special election for Delaware Senate yesterday by about 58-42 after organizing tremendously and outspending the Republican 10-1. Anyone looking for tea leaves for 2018 will have to wait for the upcoming round of House and Senate special elections and statewide and municipal elections in Virginia and New Jersey.

  282. Mr.Vito says:

    There is a special election for Tom Price’s seat in April.

  283. Wes says:

    The one bit of analysis I would give to the DE State Senate special election is that it shows the DEGOP has still not recovered from the unmitigated debacle known as Christine O’Donnell. When O’Donnell beat Castle in 2010 and dragged in fellow wingnut Rick Urquhart, the DEGOP immediately flatlined organizationally, and DE became one of only three states where Dems increased power that year, HI and CA being the others.

    Since then, the DEGOP has been essentially moribund, rarely contesting anything seriously and having little electoral success. That turn o events was reflected in yesterday’s race. Despite doing reasonably well in 2014, the Republican this time had only a tenth of what the Dem had and had no organizational support with little outside spending compared to essentially unlimited resources going for the Dem. One could argue Republicans would have done better had Hillary won. Then again, this is DE and the DEGOP. It’s not at all assured.

    What happened yesterday underscores more than anything else the unmitigated mess the DEGOP has become by being too weak to effectively back a reasonably good candidate who as recently as the early 2000s may well have won here.

  284. Mr.Vito says:

    Last time that Delaware seat was open, the Dems won 65-35 in 2008. It was unopposed in 2012. The guy that lost in 2014 by only 2 ran again for this special election against a new Democrat.

  285. Mr.Vito says:

    I dont know why the elections were unevenly distributed in 2008, 2012, and 2014, but not 2010 or 2016.

  286. Wes says:

    That does seem odd, Vito. Maybe Delaware enacted a law sometime during that time period changing the election schedule for its State Senate seats. Kentucky did something similar in the 1990s, changing legislative races from odd to even years and thus causing an extension of terms contemporary to when the law was enacted.

  287. Robbie says:

    How can COD have been bad for Delaware’s Republicans? I was told “she fights” so she has to have been good for the party.

    I kid of course, but I agree with Wes. I see little reason at all to draw any conclusions from the special election yesterday. Now if we blow the special election for Tom Price’s seat, then there’s reason to worry.

  288. Wes says:

    If Republicans lose the Price district, Rdelbov will say it signifies nothing. It will actually be a precursor of things to come, much as the three early 2008 special elections Dems won from Republicans portended what was to come.

    I don’t expect that to happen though. The GAGOP is a brilliantly run party known since 2002 for always backing the best available candidate. (Julian would hate living there since Georgia Republicans always both eschew the wingnuts and win.) I expect Republicans to hold the seat easily.

  289. Mr.Vito says:

    I don’t think COD damaged the Delaware Republicans. I think she was a symptom of an illness between the GOP base and it’s establishment that was already damaging it. The GOP was not ready for it in 2010, and several upstarts won… they were ready in 2012 and got the candidates they wanted, but did poorly overall. They did much better at finding consensus candidates in 2014 and did well, but the perceived lack of force against Obama that ensued was largely dismissed as deadenderism. It has capped off with Trump taking over in 2016.

  290. Robbie says:


    One reason I think Trump’s barking seal act with the press is a waste of time is it does nothing to shore up the area where he needs to improve most, the suburbs. I agree Price’s seat should not be much of a concern, but I do think the suburbs are where the battle in 2018 will be fought. And right now, I think press fights aren’t the way to win over the suburbs.

    Trump’s fight with the press is catnip for the conservative base, but he’s got the base locked up. What he needs to do now is move to consolidate the area where he is weakest. I’ve mentioned this before, but Teresa May is doing this effectively in Great Britain. Corbyn has steered Labour way off to the left and left the “middle” to the Tories. May’s message, which is similar to Trump’s, is winning over the “middle” and now, if new elections were called, the Tories would decisively expand their majority in Parliament.

    The Democrats own the urban areas and the Republicans own the rural areas. In 2016, Trump did just well enough in the suburbs to win, but the suburbs are up for grabs. In my mind, that’s where Republican success rises or falls in 2018.

  291. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump’s act with the press is not about catnip for the base. It is about not allowing an openly hostile press to control the narrative.

  292. Mr.Vito says:

    Let’s review this closely. It is the media that invented the term ‘fake news’ and posted lists of websites that it shamefully and untruthfully declared controlled by the Russians.

    This was the latest shot across the bow of anyone who dared not to bow before the elite media and offer a different narrative. All the efforts at that time were clearly aimed at a coming offensive on alternate media.

    Trump turned this right back in their faces, and it has been downright awesome.

  293. Wes says:

    Clearly you and I have different definitions of damage, Vito. I would argue O’Donnell did indeed damage the DEGOP by turning the party into a joke and getting both herself and Rick Urquhart flattened in the elections that year while Democrats soared to heights in the state legislature they hadn’t enjoyed since Roosevelt was President–all of this in a Dem President’s midterm.

    It’s worth nothing Republicans in the state squarely blamed their catastrophic losses in 2010 on O’Donnell. It’s also worth nothing when she wasn’t engaging in her antics as a candidate in 2014, Republicans amazingly picked up a statewide office and regained many of the legislative districts they’d lost in 2010, thus becoming somewhat less of a joke than when O’Donnell was claiming not to be a witch.

  294. Mr.Vito says:

    “Clearly you and I have different definitions of damage, Vito.”

    No, “clearly” we have different opinions on the cause and timeline of the damage. It’s all right there.

  295. Wes says:

    I honestly haven’t a problem with Trump’s Twitter rants. Unlike GWB–who was willing to stand idly by while the media said whatever they liked uncontested–Trump uses Twitter as his proverbial bully pulpit to get his message out. The elites, both conservative and liberal, in the intelligentsia don’t like it; however, it’s their nature to dislike those who obviate them to get a message out.

    Does Trump over do it at times?

    Yes, I can see a reasonable case for that argument.

    Even so, this is a refreshing contrast to the gentlemanly, country club style of dealing with the press GWB employed.

  296. Wes says:

    That may be, Vito, but I see no reasonable case for saying O’Donnell didn’t damage Delaware Republicans with her disastrous 2010 Senate candidacy. There may have been other underlying factors, but I see no reasonable case for saying she was simply a symptom rather than a cause.

    Regardless, I’ve made my case and don’t feel like discussing her further. Feel free to take the last word if you like.

  297. Tina says:

    Karl Rove and his ilk clearly served bush wrong. They let him be defined by the media. Bush failed to stand up,for himself. Lies became truths.

  298. Phil says:

    Agree totally with Wes and Tina about Bush. He absolutely just stood idly by and let the MSM destroy his presidency. It was pathetic watching an administration refuse to even attempt to defend itself. It is a no brainer that if you make no effort to answer the opposition you are cooked. Bush and the people around him were complete morons.

  299. JC says:


    I agree that Christine O’Donnel wasn’t a good fit for DE, but why is she a ‘wingnut’? Her views are that of a standard limited government conservative.

    IMO COD was hit with one of the most blatant and vicious character assassinations in modern history (second only to sarah palin). The MSM literally accused her of being a cultist witch – all because a photo surfaced of her dressed as one during a Halloween party years ago. She became the focal point of attack editorials and late night comedian ridicule. The media also sexualized her – just like they did with Palin (conservative women aren’t ‘real’ woman, just like conservative blacks aren’t ‘true’ to their skin color).

    The MSM went out to destroy her and succeeded.

  300. JC says:

    @300 Mr. Vito
    Trump’s act with the press is not about catnip for the base. It is about not allowing an openly hostile press to control the narrative.


    This. The Narrative is the most potent and dangerous weapon the left has. Liberals only make up about 20% of the population, but they completely dominate the media, pop culture, and hollywood. In other words they control the messaging and narrative. This is how they win elections despite their politics being incredibly unpopular. Obama didn’t win against Romney because of the issues. He won against an evil corporate shill who shoots cancer beams out of his eyeballs and tortures innocent dogs.

    We all saw what happened to Bush after 8 years of constant negative reporting. We all saw how the media covered for Obama on everything from the rise of ISIS to the stagnant economy (imagine how they would report the news of this stuff happened under Bush). The media is probably good for 10-20% of liberal votes.

    Democrats are the party of the low info voters.

  301. Wes says:

    Right when I think I’m done with discussing O’Donnell, I get dragged back into a conversation about.

    O’Donnell claimed to have dabbled in witchcraft on Bill Maher’s insipid show. By itself, that wasn’t a killer. All she had to do was say decades ago she had some harmless fun. Instead, she made a whole ad about it and let it become a focal point of an already floundering campaign.

    She had multiple ethical and financial issues ranging from the inane (a dine and dash at a rally) to the disturbing (jilting a mortgage company as well as the state tax collectors for her townhouse). She had her partisans lie about Mike Castle’s supposedly having a gay affair with a male staffer. In the debate with Coons, she melted down over a question about Supreme COurt rulings she disagreed with.

    There was no sexualization of her, and the media didn’t destroy her. O’Donnell destroyed herself with her poor campaign and shady ethical background. The media had no reason to destroy her when she was willing to do that herself.

    In much the same way, Sarah Palin wasn’t a victim of the media but of herself. When she couldn’t even say what newspapers she read, it was clear Palin was a political lightweight. Subsequent events underscored this.

    For examples of competent female pols, see Kristi Noem and Nikki Haley–two great candidates who overcame daunting odds to become successful politicians even in the face of media fire.

  302. lisab says:


    trump should act like a president and stop tweeting

    he should only do what robbie and corey tell him to do and then resign and give back the midwest to the democrats

    and he should suck up to the nytmes and cnn

  303. jason says:

    COD was a small time con artist, give me a break.

    Character assassination, my ass.

  304. lisab says:

    too bad about bill paxton, i actually liked him as an actor

  305. jason says:

    J. Cutler says:
    February 26, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    I hope I end up back in Denver!”

    End up is ok. Play, no.

  306. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sandy Eggo Citizen,

    Scanned down through the link you provided.

    Flooding out there in Calefor-IA seems to be bad.
    Can easily see why the flood damage to infrastructure could reach a billion dollars.

    Sorry for your trouble…

  307. jason says:

    RIP Judge Wapner.

  308. JC says:


    O’Donnell claimed to have dabbled in witchcraft on Bill Maher’s insipid show. By itself, that wasn’t a killer. All she had to do was say decades ago she had some harmless fun. Instead, she made a whole ad about it and let it become a focal point of an already floundering campaign.

    She DID claim it was harmless fun. But this story was on EVERY news network and paper in America day after day. It was laughed at and mocked on tv constantly. The media kept it alive to damage her. How many low info voters do you think seriously believed she was a cultist witch? I bet quite a few. She couldn’t just ‘move on’. She didn’t even make an ad until weeks after this hitjob began. And then when she made an ad dismissing those attacks – the media mocked her for that. It’s schoolyard bullying tactics, plain and simple. Never underestimate the power of ridicule.

    Everything in your second statement is irrelevant. I didn’t ask why you think she’s a bad candidate. I asked why you think she’s a loony wingnut. (Answer: that’s the media narrative).

    As for Palin not being a victim of the media – oh my GOD man. Seriously don’t even go there. Good grief. She was the biggest target of every single attack and mockery the media could possibly fathom. Late night comedians made rape jokes about her. They accused her of instigating the shooting of Gifford. The MSM reported on FAKE stories about her having breast implants. She was portrayed as a stupid bimbo who only got by because of her looks (When in fact, she had a stellar record as governor and governed quite centrist). They even went after her own children. They made fun of her down syndrome son and even made sex jokes about her preteen daughter. Her treatment was the most vicious I’ve ever seen. It didn’t matter what she said or how she said it. Everything would be twisted to fit the narrative of ‘dumb bimbo’. Anyone who defends the media’s treatment of Palin are worse than scum.

    As for Haley – she was sexualized just like O’Donnel and Palin was (I wasn’t following Noem, so I don’t know). Remember all of the fake affair stories that kept surfacing? None of it cold be proven – yet the media reported on it ad nauseam (just like the women who accused Trump of assault). Niki was in real trouble and only barely passed the 50% mark in a red state during a Republican national landslide.

    Wes, the media is our enemy. They hate us. Not dislike. Hate. They are the opposition party.

  309. Mr.Vito says:

    O’Donnell was cleared of all those ethics questions. As MD said at the time, no one here will ever acknowledge that they were incorrect for believing them.

  310. Mr.Vito says:

    The media and politicos have no qualm about destroying people for their own agenda. Everyone filters these things according to their own bias.

  311. Bitterlaw says:

    We lost a great President today.

  312. Trump says:

    Anyone who follows advice from a fu&%ed-up retard like Robbie will end up like Jeb.

    The moron keeps bringing up suburban voters. Trump did as well as Bush among this group, and better than Romney.

    Where’s the problem?

  313. lisab says:

    With Obamacare in jeopardy, California considers going it alone with ‘single-payer’ system

  314. lisab says:

    THE ORIGINAL! Donald John Trump; America’s Bastard-in-Chief! He’s Illegitimate!

  315. lisab says:

    Transgender boy wins controversial girls state wrestling title in Texas, 56-0 record

  316. lisab says:

    ust a week ago, Orange Coast College suspended a conservative student who recorded his professor calling Trump’s election “an act of terrorism.” But after 19-year-old Caleb O’Neil filed an appeal and threatened to sue, the board of trustees announced it would cancel that punishment.

    The university had originally planned to suspend O’Neil until at least the fall of 2017, also putting him on disciplinary probation and requiring him to write a letter of apology to Olga Perez-Stable Cox, the professor he recorded. But after convening a special meeting, the board of trustees voted Wednesday to lift O’Neil’s punishment, also saying they would not take action against Cox.

  317. lisab says:

    Fordham Prof: White Women Choose Patriarchy Over Interests, Democracy ‘Set Up to Protect White Women’

  318. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    322. “With Obamacare in jeopardy, California considers going it alone with ‘single-payer’ system.”

    There was a bill introduced to that effect in the California legislature — it would even cover illegal immigrants. One silly question — how would it be funded?

    “One of the bill’s authors, Senator Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens) did not provide details on how the system would be funded.. . The proposed single-payer system would be funded by the taxes levied on employers and employees combined with Medicare and Medicaid funds.”

    So a state with the highest taxes in the country would raises taxes significantly more, and expect federal Medicare & Medicaid funds to be used to provide medical care care illegal immigrants.

  319. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As it is, California has 32.4% of its population of on state medical care (MediCal), at a cost of about $74 billion. The entire state budget is about $156 billion. Federal funds account for about $58 billion of the cost of MediCal (the name for Medicaid in California) and another $22 million federal subsidy comes in for Obamacare.

    This is one reason I laugh when anyone talks about California going it alone. The cost of state medical programs alone would be staggering.

  320. SanDiegoCitizen says:


    Last sentence should read: “to be used to provide medical care to illegal immigrants.”

  321. Bitterlaw says:

    Why does Justin Timberlake look mad?

  322. lisab says:

    possibly because his wife jennifer biel is rumored to have contracted a disease from derek jeter

  323. Phil says:

    San Diego Citizen and Tina,

    Get out while you can.

  324. lisab says:

    some black lady is crying on the oscars

  325. lisab says:

    viola davis was her name i guess

  326. jason says:

    I am boycotting the Oscars.

    Full disclosure: I boycott them every year.

  327. lisab says:

    warren beatty looks awful

  328. jason says:

    My wife says there is a mother of all f-ck ups at the Oscars.

  329. jason says:

    Warren Beatty looks like he has Alzheimer’s…

  330. jason says:

    Steve Harvey must be feeling better now…

  331. lisab says:

    oooopsie … warren beatty and fay dunaway screwed up

  332. lisab says:

    does this mean Hilary is president too?! 🙂

  333. jason says:

    Yes, actually Trump won the popular vote and Hillary won the EC.

  334. lisab says:

    at least it was not the best actress award that got screwed up

    if meryl streep was mistakenly declared the winner, they would have had to pry the oscar from her cold dead hands

  335. jason says:

    What happened was Warren and Fay had the wrong envelope.

    I thought Beatty was senile (he still could be) but the reason he hesitated was that the envelope said Emma Stone La La Land.

    Dunaway thought he was senile too and looked over and saw La La Land so she said La La Land.

  336. jason says:

    they would have had to pry the oscar from her cold dead hands”


  337. lisab says:

    tomorrow’s headlines

    la times: oscar fiasco
    washington times: beatty blows it
    washington post: best picture mix up
    chicago tribune: oscar mishap
    ny times: trump shoots baby otter
    cnn: trump shoots baby otter … then laughs
    usa today: bigfoot discovered

  338. lisab says:

    robbie says:

    did you see trump shot a baby otter and then laughed about it?

    i like some of what he has done but shooting baby otters and laughing about it is wrong he should step down

  339. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We now know who is responsible for climate change — it is the Martians. Yes, its a form of planetary war:

    This may explain why Gov Brown in California want his own space program. He may claim it relates to weather, but secretly, being a climate change warrior, he plans to attack Mars.

  340. Mr.Vito says:

    I heard the dossier was finally proven true last night!

    While Trump was in bed he was urinated on by overpaid socialist whores…

  341. NYCmike says:

    “This. The Narrative is the most potent and dangerous weapon the left has.”

    -Silence now……..ahhhh, the gold old days when “narrative”, aka ‘Tell a story’, really got the comment train running full steam!

    Eventually, they all come around……..maybe MD or Author will come back to mock this again… can only hope…

  342. NYCmike says:

    Robbie mentioned “suburban women”.

    My wife was with her friends this weekend. About 10 of them all together for a birthday party weekend (no pillow fights).

    NONE of them spoke an ounce about politics. They will (maybe) pay attention after Labor Day 2020.

  343. DW says:

    So the Oscars decided to get in on delivering fake news?

  344. NYCmike says:

    I think it was done on purpose….otherwise, why would anyone be talking about it right now?

    They probably figured it worked for Trump, so why not do the same?

  345. NYCmike says:

    -Those so-called “popular provisions” of Obamacare that jason and Wes consistently mention……Republicans should highlight how each policy is affected by those “popular provisions”, and then compare the cost of what a policy would be without those mandates, along with the more conservative, free-market-oriented proposals set forth by Tom Price and others.

  346. DW says:

    355 – far more important than the Oscars, NYCmike, what are the Mets going to do to solve their over-abundance of starting outfielders?

    Here is the list:


    Unless MLB doubles the size of the outfield before the start of the season, the Mets have some tough decisions to make. Here is my take:

    1. Cespedes. He starts every game he is able to. The guy can hit.

    2. Conforto. He has been hitting like crazy thus far in spring training and his time has finally come.

    3. Granderson. He still just barely gets the nod over Bruce, but he if struggles at all, move Bruce up.

    4. Bruce. Efforts to trade him fell through.

    5. No room for Lagares and Nimmo.

  347. Wes says:

    After eight years of saying nothing about Obama, the Incompetent One has apparently decided to join MD and Author in Moonbatland and take potshots at…Donald Trump.

    The furthering of the irrelevance of the political dynasty known as Bush continues.

  348. Bitterlaw says:


  349. jason says:

    Trump should tweet the Academy was so busy taking pot shots at me they couldn’t get their envelopes straight.

  350. jason says:

    over-abundance of starting outfielders?”

    Is that like a wide receiver?

  351. jason says:

    Steve Harvey must have tweeted something funny.

    I don’t have twitter, someone else can post it.

  352. George P. through George X says:

    he furthering of the irrelevance of the political dynasty known as Bush continues.”


  353. DW says:

    Wes, I was about to post this:

    “George W. Bush says media crucial to ‘hold people like me to account,’ warns power is ‘very addictive'” – NBC News

    Hey W, where ya been the last 8 years?

  354. jason says:

    Actually, GWB is presenting his new series of portraits honoring the courage and sacrifice of America’s military veterans.

    wes to say he doesn’t think GWB has talent in 3, 2, 1….

  355. jason says:

    “Growing out of President Bush’s own outreach and the ongoing work of the George W. Bush Institute’s Military Service Initiative, Portraits of Courage brings together sixty-six full-color portraits and a four-panel mural painted by President Bush of members of the United States military who have served our Nation with honor since 9/11—and whom he has come to know personally.

    The Military Service Initiative helps post-9/11 veterans and their families make a successful transition to civilian life and addresses issues of veteran wellness, including post-traumatic stress and traumatic brain injury.”

    Of course, wes is doing much more “relevant” things.

  356. Bitterlaw says:

    Being a liar for decades can hurt your career? Who knew?

  357. jason says:

    Bush is not wrong, an independent media is necessary to hold politicians accountable.

    But he should have added there is a problem when the media is selective on who it holds accountable, and has become the voice of one party and one ideology.

  358. Bitterlaw says:

    I would like to take this time to condemn present day slavery throughout the world.

  359. Mr.Vito says:

    “George W. Bush says media crucial to ‘hold people like me to account,’ warns power is ‘very addictive’” – NBC News

    Was he bound and gagged during the Obama administration?

  360. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Negan is back to being evil instead of just threatening to send Rick a stern letter.

    Amber is my favorite wife of Negan. She is spending the apocalypse getting drunk but she does not appear to drive. She is also smokin’

  361. jason says:

    Dolezal said she’s only been offered jobs in reality television and porno flicks.”

    Porno flicks? Very low budget I would say.

    I think I would rather watch Amos’ prize bull getting it on than watch her having sex.

    And to anyone tempted to say gayest comment of the day GFY.

  362. jason says:

    Shhh… wes might be tempted to read the comic book so he can tell us how Negan will die.

    That would make 2017 a bust for me….

  363. ssq says:

    “Amber is my favorite wife of Negan”

    I am just outraged a representative of the law system like Bitterlaw would condone polygamy.

  364. ssq says:

    Make that legal system, that was too much even for me.

  365. Bitterlaw says:

    Considering that Negan is really not a good manager, I am surprised he doesn’t face an assassination attempt every other day.

  366. Bitterlaw says:

    I think I would rather watch Amos’ prize bull getting it on than watch her having sex.

    And to anyone tempted to say gayest comment of the day GFY.

    Ummmm. I don’t think that post is gay. It is pretty disturbed but not gay.

  367. jason says:

    Trump ran a scorched earth campaign and said some very offensive things about a lot of people like McCain, Jeb Bush, etc. I don’t disagree with the premise that this helped get him the nomination and the Presidency.

    Although I prefer to look at the bigger picture for the good of the country, you can see the wounds have not healed, look at the Jebbots here.

    It would be naive to think everyone is just going to forget what Trump said and move on, that there are not some long lasting consequences for comments like POWs are not war heroes because they were captured and Jeb was a pathetic little sheep.

    I actually would prefer that people refrain from payback but its not a realistic expectation given the egos of most politicians.

  368. jason says:

    Ummmm. I don’t think that post is gay. It is pretty disturbed but not gay.”

    Well, GFY anyway.

  369. jason says:

    Steve Harvey’s first tweet..

    Good morning, everyone. Went to sleep early last night, what did I miss?

  370. jason says:

    Note to the MSM.

    It could be worse…

    “SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea executed five senior security officials with anti-aircraft guns because they made false reports that “enraged” leader Kim Jong Un, South Korea’s spy agency said Monday.”

  371. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump should invite all the media to press briefings. Just don’t put out enough chairs. See if they keep coming back.

  372. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 27, 2017 at 7:42 am
    Robbie mentioned “suburban women”.
    My wife was with her friends this weekend. About 10 of them all together for a birthday party weekend (no pillow fights).
    NONE of them spoke an ounce about politics. They will (maybe) pay attention after Labor Day 2020.

    – I don’t believe I singled out suburban woman. I spoke, generally, about the suburbs which I believe is where the 2018 battle will be fought and where Trump has the most to gain. The suburbs have been Republican territory, but there was clearly some hesitancy to Trump in that area on election day in 2016.

    I understand why everyone here likes Trump’s attacks on the press, but we’re hardly representative of the broader public at large. I have no problem with Trump playing hardball with the press. What I don’t care for is it seems, right now, hardball with the press is his number 1 priority.

    Thankfully, I think this week will mark the period where DC moves on to taxes and Obamacare repeal. That should, hopefully, move the discussion away from “Trump vs. the press”. If Trump wants better press, the best way to achieve that, in my mind, is to develop a record of legislative accomplishments.

  373. Cash Cow TM says:

    Poll on ObamaCare

    “While they are almost evenly divided between wanting to see the law repealed (47 percent) or not repealed (48 percent), very few (18 percent) of those favoring repeal support the idea of working out replacement details later”

  374. jason says:


    So now the Democrats are interested in polls showing support for Obamacare when for years they ignored all polls showing the opposite.

    You have to admired the chutzpah.

  375. Cash Cow TM says:

    And the award for the “Best Troll on HHR” goes to….


    No..NO..NO… There has been a mistake!

    Best Troll is REALLY ProudObamacon.
    This is not a joke!

  376. Cash Cow TM says:

    Trump approve/disapprove today

    Overall A/D
    51 Approve
    49 Disapprove
    34 Strongly approve
    39 Strongly disapprove

  377. jason says:

    One consequence of the election was we lost the Kanadian Marxist.

    He was 120% sure Hillary would win, with a 10% margin of error.

  378. DW says:

    “SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea executed five senior security officials with anti-aircraft guns because they made false reports that “enraged” leader Kim Jong Un, South Korea’s spy agency said Monday.”

    They were lucky. It was a quick death. They could have been put into a cage with hungry dogs like Un’s uncle.

  379. ssq says:

    Un’s uncle was a hungry dog?

    How inhumane.

  380. jason says:

    Biggest troll here is Bunu.

    He plays a conservative.

    Reminds me of a woman who walks into a shrink’s office with a kangaroo on a leash.

    The shrink says, what is your problem?

    She says “oh, I don’t have a problem, it’s my husband, he thinks he is a kangaroo.”

  381. Mr.Vito says:

    Well, if he did think he was a kangaroo, who are we to say he isn’t?

  382. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree with Mr. Vito. It is not right to discriminate against people who were assigned the wrong species at birth.

  383. Bitterlaw says:

    My team blew a 4 point half-time lead in the second half yesterday. Those Senior girls came to play after we jumped out to a 10-2 lead. Lost by 10. I know that nobody really cares but it is better than discussing politics.

  384. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe I identify as a saucy internet sock puppet…

  385. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – You are a saucy internet sock puppet. You are!

  386. Cash Cow TM says:

    It is a beautiful day in the pasture-hood.

    Teeing it up for the CCCC

  387. jason says:

    Well, if he did think he was a kangaroo, who are we to say he isn’t?”

    Well, there were other issues. The kangaroo was actually a female, even though it is the woman’s husband, not wife.

    So what restroom would the kangaroo use is a major consideration.

  388. jason says:

    Mr Vito did you see Democracy Now’s election night coverage… if not, enjoy

  389. Bitterlaw says:

    So what restroom would the kangaroo use is a major consideration.

    Hater. The kangaroo can go anywhere – indoors or outdoors.

  390. Bitterlaw says:

    Best quote that tells you about the mindset of some people:

    “I just don’t get why they are being so stubborn about why they have to have these crosses,” Pilling said.

    Ummmmm. It’s a Catholic school. These people must not have noticed the church right off the road where the bridge will be built.

  391. Bitterlaw says:

    Before lisab says it….I would not care if school or church had its own bridge and there was a Star of David or an Islamic Crescent on it. It would not bother me at all. If the Wiccans or atheists or Satanists or atheists want symbols on their bridge, go for it.

  392. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    315. Sandy Eggo Citizen,. . . Flooding out there in Calefor-IA seems to be bad. Can easily see why the flood damage to infrastructure could reach a billion dollars. Sorry for your trouble…

    Thanks Cow. Overall the heavy rain is good, its is replenishing water supplies and helping farmers. Many flood their fields to build the water table.

    It was bad this year because of the stupidity of Governor Brown. He wanted to challenge Trump and be a climate change warrior, so he, supported by the NYTs, claimed California was in “permanent” drought. Brown refused to see the heavy rains beginning late last year were a normal occurrence which always periodically happen. The state did not begin draining water from dams or doing a lot of other important flood control measures until it was too late. California were hit unprepared; it will cost billions.

  393. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is the same Gov. Brown who had state workers search for oil on his personal ranch. They prepared him a 51 pages report.

    Brown should be indicted. instead leftist swoon over him.

  394. NYCmike says:

    “it will cost billions.”

    -FEMA to the rescue!

    Doesn’t everyone love the smell of unnecessary tax expenditures in the morning!?

  395. NYCmike says:

    Story about flooding the fields is great!

    Humans saw what Mother Nature handed them, and changed how they handled it to suit her mood better!

    As opposed to liberal Democrats, who ALWAYS know the right way is to spend more $$$.

  396. PresidentPaul! says:

    George W. Bush is only supporting the fake news because they didn’t call him out on his fake cowboy ranch.

  397. Mr.Vito says:

    Couldn’t they have figured out a way to save some of this water for the areas still in drought?

    Talk about wasteful…

  398. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    413. That is the thought behind flooding the agricultural fields, and letting the water go into the soil as groundwater.

    413. Prior to the levees being built, the Central Valley would often flood over a large area and this would happen.

    A big issue is there is a small aquarium fish called the delt smelt; it is near extinction, and there is a court order requiring enough water run through the delta into the sea to preserve it. This was disastrous to agriculture in the drought.

  399. PresidentPaul! says:

    Josh Brolin, who was fantastic as America’s first retarded president in “W”, has followed it up with the movie of the decade and its coming sequel 2017 Soldado

  400. Robbie says:

    The Wall Street Journal reports Jon Huntsman is a possible choice to become the Deputy Secretary of State.

    UGH! He is not one of my favorites.

  401. janz says:

    #314 On 60 Minutes last night they gave a short update on the CA drought. Supposedly the more superficial aquifers have been refilling. But the deeper, secondary ones take longer. And, because of these underground water deficiencies some of the central valley land has sunk 20 inches! I had no idea this was going on.

  402. janz says:

    We postponed an earlier trip up I 5 because of all the rain. But, did get on the road yesterday, and were amazed at the lush, green fields everywhere. This drive is usually dreary, dry and like a moon walk drive. So, it was gratifying to see the useful byproduct of all our rain.

  403. Tina says:

    House Intel Chair Nunes: ‘No Evidence’ of Contact Between Trump Campaign, Russia – Breitbart

    Jebots crushed.

  404. Tina says:

    The i 5 drive i hate doing. Glad that its greener than normal, janz.

  405. PresidentPaul! says:

    I find it sickening that a single republican senator voted for either Kagan or Sotomayor.

    The GOP is mostly swamp at this point.

  406. PresidentPaul! says:

    The anti-Trump Women’s March Organizer Is a Convicted Terrorist

    Odeh, a Palestinian, was convicted in Israel in 1970 for her part in two terrorist bombings, one of which killed two students while they were shopping for groceries. She spent 10 years in prison for her crimes. She then managed to become a US citizen in 2004 by lying about her past (great detective work, INS: Next time, use Google) but was subsequently convicted, in 2014, of immigration fraud for the falsehoods. However, she won the right to a new trial (set for this spring) by claiming she had been suffering from PTSD at the time she lied on her application. Oh, and in her time as a citizen, she worked for a while as an ObamaCare navigator.

  407. Mr.Vito says:

    Here is the real article, so Bunu is apparently not smoking anything this time.

  408. Mr.Vito says:

    “Another co-author, Angela Davis, is a Stalinist professor and longtime supporter of the Black Panthers. Davis is best known for being acquitted in a 1972 trial after three guns she bought were used in a courtroom shootout that resulted in the death of a judge…

    A third co-author, Tithi Bhattacharya, praised Maoism in an essay for the International Socialist Review, noting that Maoists are “on the terrorist list of the US State Department, Canada, and the European Union,” which she called an indication that “Maoists are back in the news and by all accounts they are fighting against all the right people.”

  409. PresidentPaul! says:

    Picking Gorsuch over Pryor was a mistake because it the pick doesn’t push the democrats.

    It would have been better to provoke them into a filibuster because they want to keep it to eventually block a Trump nominee like they did to Nixon.

    Trying to work with them is like trying to house train a alligator. total waste of time.

  410. Mr.Vito says:

    I bet the Pryor was not going to get enough GOP votes.

  411. PresidentPaul! says:

    so? That would be even better. HUGE number of GOP senators I despise.

    President Trump: New York Times ‘Intent Is so Evil and so Bad,’ ‘They Write Lies’

  412. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish I could be in the room when Bunu says “retarded.” Punching him would be sweet.

  413. PresidentPaul! says:

    Well I agree with you that people should use the term unless it’s with reference to GWB.

  414. Mr.Vito says:

    So they wouldn’t have to filibuster if the nominee won’t get enough votes from the GOP. They would just vote for cloture, and he would be voted down… an embarrassment to Trump.

    And this is to what end… so the Senators you already despise can make you angrier?

  415. Mr.Vito says:

    No thanks.

  416. PresidentPaul! says:

    Any senator who votes stops a GOP Supreme Court nominee from getting through is toast in a primary.

    The more the better. Could care less about about making Trump look good.

  417. PresidentPaul! says:

    I’m sure there is someone more controversial than Pryor we could find for the second round also.

  418. Cash Cow TM says:

    821 non-citizens registered to vote in Ohio.

    I bet a bale of hay there are 10,000+ other people on the voter rolls in Ohio that are also registered to vote in other states

  419. Bitterlaw says:

    Bunu’s plan of nominating toxic judges for SCOTUS makes sense when you remember that he is neither a Republican nor a conservative.

  420. PresidentPaul! says:

    Gorsuch seems to be a good nominee. Just stating my personal preference for nominees that annoy the dems and especially the GOP moderates the most.

  421. Mr.Vito says:

    “Any senator who votes stops a GOP Supreme Court nominee from getting through is toast in a primary.”

    Everyone knows who the suspects are… it won’t do anything more.

  422. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    February 27, 2017 at 8:00 pm
    House Intel Chair Nunes: ‘No Evidence’ of Contact Between Trump Campaign, Russia – Breitbart

    Jebots crushed.

    – Not this Jeb guy, but I also realize you’re a Gateway Pundit reader so accurate comments aren’t your thing.

  423. Robbie says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    February 27, 2017 at 9:53 pm
    Gorsuch seems to be a good nominee. Just stating my personal preference for nominees that annoy the dems and especially the GOP moderates the most.

    – The problem with this line of thought is it suggests anything that pisses off liberals is therefore conservative. That’s not the case.

    Pryor was always one of my top three picks (along with Gorsuch and Kethledge), but he was also the most controversial choice possible. I don’t think he could have been confirmed.

    Right now, Gorsuch for Scalia, Kethledge for Kennedy, and Mike Lee for Thomas would produce the first conservative majority in a century. It would produce the results every conservative wants for 20 or more years and that’s really all that matters.

  424. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Right now, Gorsuch for Scalia, Kethledge for Kennedy, and Mike Lee for Thomas would produce the first conservative majority in a century. It would produce the results every conservative wants for 20 or more years and that’s really all that matters.”

    First off there won’t be that many retirements. Second off if you don’t pressure the democrats to see what they will do on the filibuster when push comes to shove and get rid of it if they use it then you could never appoint all those people anyways. Third trying to get rid of moderate republicans should always be a top priority so if you can find a nominee they would vote against, that would be a priority as well.

  425. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    419. Find I-5 boring as well, plus some of the traffic jams can be awful, but love it when it is this green. Shows how vital California agriculture is to the nation.

    To get to Seattle, often will take I-15 through Utah, then I-84 through Idaho and Oregon. It is a prettier trip, and can miss the traffic on I-5, and visit friends and my favorite shooting range along the way.

  426. lisab says:

    Before lisab says it….I would not care if school or church had its own bridge and there was a Star of David or an Islamic Crescent on it. It would not bother me at all.

    if a private school wants reasonable symbols on their property i am ok with it

    if they wanted a 100 foot swastika i would not be in favor

    but there is a great deal of leeway in between.

    generally if they are not beyond local zoning laws i am ok with such things on private property.

  427. Wes says:

    Apparently Franklin Graham wants to be the next Bitter:

    In an oblique criticism of Je nna Bush, Graham validated Godwin’s Law by subtly comparing the former First Daughter to the Nazis for her support of Planned Parenthood.

    It must warm Bitterlaw’s heart to know Franklin Graham also feels the need to validate Godwin’s Law by comparing anything he dislikes to the Third Reich.

  428. NYCmike says:

    Oh geez, Wes woke up with the “Godwin’s Law” phrase on his mind AGAIN!

    How many times will he write it today?

  429. Sheeple Jr says:

    Liberals,like ObamaCon and Charles, never learn that “the road to Hades is paved with good intentions”. The ridiculous rise in the Minimum Wage is one strong example.

  430. Bitterlaw says:

    Apparently Franklin Graham wants to be the next Bitter.

    WTF are you talking about, Wes? I have made no comparisons to Planned Parenthood and Nazis.

    I never listen to Franklin Graham or his dad. I know you just think that slavery in America was “wrong” while I think it was pure evil but you need to chill early in the morning.

    By the way, modern slavery throughout the world is evil, too. GFY.

  431. Bitterlaw says:

    To be honest, I never listen to any of the televangelists.

  432. ssq says:

    YCmike says:
    February 27, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    “it will cost billions.”

    -FEMA to the rescue!

    Doesn’t everyone love the smell of unnecessary tax expenditures in the morning!?”

    5:37 PM is considered morning in NY? I guess its the time difference from here in California.

  433. jason says:

    Sometimes when flipping channels if I run into Joel Osteen I will listen for awhile. Not for the content but for the delivery. Fabulous orator. He fills the Houston Rockets old basketball arena every Sunday with like 20k people.

  434. jason says:

    Here is the real article, so Bunu is apparently not smoking anything this time.”

    Bunu loves terrorists, maybe it is someone he met on the Palestinian flotilla.

  435. jason says:

    The Wall Street Journal reports Jon Huntsman is a possible choice to become the Deputy Secretary of State.”

    I prefer him there than as senator from UT.

  436. Barrett says:

    #412 – I’m a staunch critic of GWB, but you are an idiot, as per usual.

    Anyways…definitely liking Trumps budget. Stronger Military and cuts in other places. If we can quickly pass a budget, it will definitely be a sign that we have a more unified government, counter to what the media has been saying.

    If asked if I approve of Trump at this point, my answer would be yes. If I had to give him a grade, it would be a C- (I’m a tough grader).

  437. Wes says:

    I will never cease to wonder how a lawyer can have such a stunning lack of perceptive ability.

    I never said you claim Planned Parenthood is like the Nazis, Bitter.

    I EXPLICITLY said you compare anything you don’t like to the Nazis.

    That’s exactly what Graham did:

    He compared support of Planned Parenthood to Nazism because he doesn’t approve of Planned Parenthood.

    You frequently do the same thing, though the American South and the Confederacy are your targets rather than Planned Parenthood.

  438. Robbie says:

    Today’s Morning Consult/Politico poll has Trump’s approval at 50%. An approval that high is good news for Trump, but I’ll add the usual caveat I’ve always had that it’s an online poll. To me, it’s still a work-in-progress methodology.

    What I do find interesting is the continued difference between online polls and live caller polls. As was the case in the election, the online polls are generally better for Trump. The question is are the online polls capturing the “shy” Trump vote, or is it a function of a still evolving methodology?

  439. Robbie says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    February 27, 2017 at 11:20 pm

    First off there won’t be that many retirements. Second off if you don’t pressure the democrats to see what they will do on the filibuster when push comes to shove and get rid of it if they use it then you could never appoint all those people anyways. Third trying to get rid of moderate republicans should always be a top priority so if you can find a nominee they would vote against, that would be a priority as well.

    – I think you may be mistaken. It’s a better than 50-50 chance Kennedy retires this Summer and I think it’s very likely Thomas will retire before the end of Trump’s first term. He saw how Ginsburg’s roll of the dice failed and I don’t think he wants to risk Trump losing in 2020 and having the potential of his seat being filled by a Democrat as Scalia’s nearly was.

  440. Wes says:

    It used to be that Supreme Court Justices retired regardless of the ideology of the incumbent President. That changed with Roosevelt’s court-packing scheme, which, while it scared some conservative Justices into retirement, permanently politicized the judiciary.

    We saw an example of this in 1968 when Earl Warren tried to retire before the elections to ensure no Republican could appoint his replacement. Strom Thurmond, however, led the effort to block Abe Fortas and paved the way for Richard Nixon to appoint Warren Burger.

    Since then few Justices have retired when an at least theoretically ideologically incompatible President was in office. Fortis, William O. Douglas, and Thurgood Marshall are the prime examples, the latter two being nearly dead before pressured to finally retire.

    Had Obama appointed Scalia’s successor, it would be the first time a Democrat appointed the replacement of a GOP Justice since Clinton appointed Breyer to replace Blackmun in 1994. Thankfully we dodged that bullet.

    Unfortunately the increasing ideological polarization of the parties and the accompanying strong partisanship of federal judges have essentially forced Justices to serve on the Court long after they should be. To ensure a likeminded President will appoint their successors, they must often remain on the bench in failing health. Douglas and Marshall retired before they died. That was a good thing.

    Unfortunately ideology makes that unlikely for Justices of eiter party currently and can have negative effects on our judiciary.

    That’s a poor comentary on the state of politics in our nation.

  441. Robbie says:

    Actually, both Souter and Stevens (Republican nominees) were replaced by Obama in 2009 and 2010.

  442. Robbie says:

    I have no doubt Anthony Kennedy finds Trump to be repulsive. Jan Crawford of CBS, who is very well connected with conservative leaning judicial activists, recently described Kennedy as a snob and an elitist in a podcast with John Dickerson. So it’s not hard to imagine he doesn’t want to give Trump such an opportunity.

    In light of that, I could envision Kennedy wanting to hold out and remain. In the eyes of many and no doubt his own, Kennedy is the most powerful man in American constitutional law. That’s a lot for someone with an outsized ego to give up.

    All of that said, there were more than a stories during the early Obama years stating those close to Kennedy said he did not want Obama picking his replacement. Kennedy may be liberal/libertarian when it comes to social issues rulings, but he’s fairly conservative in the other areas. He did vote to throw out all of Obamacare.

    Kennedy’s been on the Court since January 1988, 29 years. Maybe he holds on for 30 years, but I can’t imagine he waits much longer. That said, there are stories Ginsburg and liberals are lobbying him to hang on.

  443. Bitterlaw says:

    I will never cease to wonder how a lawyer can have such a stunning lack of perceptive ability.

    I will never cease to be amazed how Wes thinks that he has any perception of what it takes to be a practicing attorney. He honestly believes that HHR is a courtroom. Hundreds of clients can attest to my abilities. As somebody who has known hundreds of attorneys, I can safely say that Wes does not have the temperament or accumen to be a lawyer. It’s not an insult. It is just the way it is.

    Go rub somebody, Wes.

  444. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes to make lame excuse that he does not want to bow before judges in 3…2…1…

  445. Mr.Vito says:

    It looks like today’s hard-hitting journalism is whether or not KellyAnne Conway sits like a lady.

  446. Mr.Vito says:

    Meanwhile, protestors booed the prayer and pledge of allegiance at Bill Cassidy’s town hall.

  447. Barrett says:

    Trump Job Approval

    Ras: 50/50
    WSJ: 44/48
    CNN: 44/53

    Average: Approve 46.0% Disapprove 50.3%

    Overall, none of these set off any red flags to me. It seems to about par for the course for Trump (between 44-48% approval). If he breaks 50, great…but I don’t expect it.

  448. jason says:

    I have no doubt Anthony Kennedy finds Trump to be repulsive.”

    I have no doubt Wobbie doesn’t have a f–king clue on what Kennedy thinks of Trump or anyone elsel.

  449. Mr.Vito says:

    Ginsburg probably finds him repulsive… when is she moving to New Zealand?

  450. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    February 28, 2017 at 12:37 pm
    I have no doubt Anthony Kennedy finds Trump to be repulsive.”
    I have no doubt Wobbie doesn’t have a f–king clue on what Kennedy thinks of Trump or anyone elsel.

    – If you know anything about Kennedy, it’s that he’s an elitist. Recently, he complained about how nasty the public discourse in politics has become. In many ways, Trump an Kennedy are opposites. Again, Kennedy’s snobbish attitudes very likely lead him to hold Trump in low regard.

    Yes, I’m making an assumption, but that’s what we do here.

  451. NYCmike says:

    “Yes, I’m making an assumption, but that’s what we do here.”

    -Says who?

    I deal only with alternative facts.

  452. Bitterlaw says:

    First, Robbie had no doubt. Then, it was very likely. Now, it is assumption.

    Come on, Robbie. Tell Jason to F off. Never show weakness when staring down an A-hole.

  453. Trump says:

    Robbie the Jeb sucker lives on fake news.

  454. Trump says:

    This moron assumes that Trump is Jeb.

    It makes him tolerate reality.

  455. Barrett says:

    Some of us must suffer through the next 4 years. We do not have a pragmatic compromiser!

    Oh the horror…

  456. NYCmike says:

    “We do not have a pragmatic compromiser!”

    -Has “CG” come by to give his weekly dose of sanctimony yet?

    I always look forward to that.

  457. Robbie says:

    After Trump’s lunch meeting with network anchors today, word comes that a “senior administration source” (cough *Trump* cough) says the White House is open to comprehensive immigration reform where certain illegals are allowed to stay. Ha! I wonder if Laura Ingraham is balled up in a corner somewhere contemplating seppuku?

    Manu Raju?
     @mkraju 48m
    48 minutes ago

    Trump shift: official says WH open to legal status for undoc immigrants who haven’t committed serious crimes, per @wolfblitzer @jaketapper

  458. Barrett says:

    come on guys, we are….

    “stronger together”

    whatever the hell that means. Did Hillary’s campaign slogan mean that a rural Maryland guy like me needs to stand hand-in-hand with a city drug dealer?

  459. Bitterlaw says:

    I have a friend who was a Republican but quit the party because of Trump. They now are committed to being “against Trump.” I understand the anger but how does that work? Does that mean that if Trump wants to lower taxes or cut regulations that they want higher taxes and more regulations? Difficult times.

    I still wish that Trump would just bored and resign but that is not going to happen so I hope for the best while knowing he is a strange cat.

  460. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is an example of Democratic leftists abusing their power in California. The Vietnamese in California are deeply anti-communist, and could end up supporting Republicans like Cuban-American voters.

  461. Wes says:

    Vietnamese have usually voted Republican till recently. SDC. They supported Obama but may return to the GOP fold after these antics.

    Even if the Vietnamese begin voting monolithically GOP, I doubt the CAGOP will benefit. Most other Cali ethnic groups are so far in the tank for the Dems Republicans would see few if any political benefits from gaining a lopsided portion of the Vietnamese vote.

  462. NYCmike says:

    “I still wish that Trump would just bored and resign but that is not going to happen so I hope for the best while knowing he is a strange cat.”

    -He is no more the “strange cat” than any other pezzonovante.

  463. NYCmike says:

    That comment was to draw Corey out…..

  464. NYCmike says:

    Oops, I mean “CG”…..

  465. Wes says:

    Democrats will have Token White Guy Steve Beshear deliver the response to Trump tonight.

    I guess that’s their subtle way of pretending not to be anti-white male.

  466. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree with Wes that California is extremely difficult for the GOP. That does not mean we should stop trying to cut into the overwhelming Dem base.

  467. Wes says:

    California voted for Babs Boxer by 10 whole points after she was instrumental in denying a large sextion of the state water, Bitter. This was in 2010 of all years. The Golden State is further left than New York now. If Republicans can’t get within 10 points with a perfect storm of events, Cali is lost.

    Both HI and CA vote as the South did from Reconstruction till the 1960s. They’re lost causes for the foreseeable future.

  468. Wes says:

    The best the CAGOP can hope for is to cobble together a coalition of disaffected whites, Asians, and middle-class Latinos to become a regional political party in the state and hold the moonbats in something resembling check.

  469. Wes says:

    I would say NV, CO, MN, VA, ME, NH, and CT (yes) are the GOP’s best current bets for making electoral gains. MI could be among those, but barring further evidence than a decimal-point presidential victory, I’m dubious on that one. Unlike its neighbors to the immediiate south, MI has some inexplicable love for the far Left on the federal level.

  470. Wes says:

    Trump could be a turning point in the Wolverine State though. He could also be a one-off aberration just as Bill Clinton was in Arizona in 1996.

  471. PresidentPaul! says:

    Thomas is only 68. Granted he’s fat and doesn’t look like he will live as long as Stephens and some of these ones in great shape, but I don’t have any particular reason to think he would retire now when he is young.

  472. NYCmike says:

    Clarence Thomas is not IN LOVE WITH POWER.

    That is why he may retire earlier than most of these justices.

  473. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw George W. Bush came out calling Trump a racist today despite being silent on Obama for 8 years.

    The fake news now LOVES GWB now that he is throwing the race card around.

    Outside chance that Trump comes out for amnesty tonight in which case he would destroy his presidency since the never Trumpers hate him no matter what and his base would then abandon him ceding the government back to the communists again.

  474. NYCmike says:

    Scalia was awesome, but I doubt he would have retired any time soon for any reason, other than his untimely death.

  475. NYCmike says:

    “btw George W. Bush came out calling Trump a racist today despite being silent on Obama for 8 years.”


  476. PresidentPaul! says:

    GWB calls Trump a racist.

    A spokesman for Bush previously told PEOPLE that neither he nor the former first lady voted for Trump – or for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton – in November. Both of the Bushes, who had campaigned for Bush’s younger brother Jeb in the 2016 Republican primaries, cast write-in votes on Election Day for a candidate they did not reveal.

  477. PresidentPaul! says:

    Too bad we have so many crappy senators. Best option would be to just shut the Trump presidency down completely in protest until there was a primary challenger in 2020, but the senators are basically useless.

  478. PresidentPaul! says:

    He’s back
    Jeb Bush to give speech tonight apparently

    (((Mark Krikorian)))? @MarkSKrikorian 3h3 hours ago
    Possible test for tonight: Can Trump stand in the middle of 5th Ave. & embrace Jeb’s immigration platform & still not lose voters?

    And you thought we were rid Jeb

  479. Cash Cow TM says:


    My peeps and (moos) in D.C. are tweeting me that they feel pretty sure that DJT in his speech tonight will say the word “cow”.

    Let’s be sure to watch to see!

    (Walt says that he will not be using the word “Cow” in regards to any potential SCOTUS nomination).

  480. PresidentPaul! says:

    Fake news, celebrities, democrats react to GWB calling Trump a racist.

    Glenn Greenwald?Verified account @ggreenwald 3h3 hours ago
    “I like George Bush now, is what I’m trying to say! … I might even buy one of his paintings”- @JoyVBehar, The View

  481. PresidentPaul! says:

    Never Trust George W. Bush, his family, his henchmen, his underlings, etc

    These are evil dudes.

    Sana Saeed?Verified account @SanaSaeed

    Repeat after me: George W. Bush is not a “voice of reason”. He is a war criminal. He is a war criminal. He is a war criminal.

  482. Walt says:


    I think DJT is more likely to use the word “Bitter” than he will to use “Cow”.

    Odds of him using “Wes”, “jason” or “Bunu” “PresidentPaul” are each under 0.001%

    Odds of him saying the word “lie” or “lies” are over 50%.
    Odds of DJT saying other specific words:




    “convoluted” “farfenugen” (or any other 4 syllable–5%)

    any 5 or 6 syllable words–1.5%

  483. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    486. After Democrat Filner was elected mayor of San Diego in 2012, many were saying that the city would never elect another Republican as mayor because the Democratic lead in registered voters in the city. Republican Faulconer was then elected in 2014 by a coalition of Anglo, Asian and African-American voters over a Latino Democratic candidate.

    Agree middle class Latinos are the key. There has already often been a division in the state legislature between the coastal Anglo elites and middle class Latino legislatures from the Central Valley, over blue collar issues, such as energy and agriculture.

  484. jason says:

    Outside chance that Trump comes out for amnesty tonight ”

    You mean like Rand Paul who said he would find a place for every illegal immigrant and imagined 12 million new taxpayers coming out of the shadows?

  485. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand has a good voting record on immigration and a poor verbal statements record.

    I was to the right of him on the issue obviously.

    He was still the best candidate running.

  486. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    502. A major problem for Republicans in California is the party is decrepit, and badly involved with crony capitalism. I am actually a registered independent (no party), and often do not vote for Republican candidates because they are so bad.

  487. Wes says:

    A GWB fan I am not. I despise the Iraq War and do not for a second believe didn’t lie his ass off to get his version of the Third Punic War. I hate GWB for his handling of the aftermath of the war. If I had a time machine, I’d go back to 2000, move to Florida, get a CDL, and bus at least 2,000 partisan Democrats to the polls to ensure Nader couldn’t cost Gore the election.

    All that said, Bunu can take his delusional statements that GWB was a war criminal and shove them up his terrorist-coddling Ronulan ass.

    Bush was an unmitigated disaster of a President, but a war criminal he was not. He was simply an incompetent buffoon of a President with little or no foresight or competence in his role as President. He grossly overreacted to 9/11 by launching that boondoggle of a war in Iraq and failing there.

    In no way can anyone other than a psychotic Ronulan consider Bush to be a war criminal–especially while defending real criminals such as bin Laden.

  488. jason says:

    A spokesman for Bush previously told PEOPLE that neither he nor the former first lady voted for Trump – or for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton – in November. Both of the Bushes, who had campaigned for Bush’s younger brother Jeb in the 2016 Republican primaries, cast write-in votes on Election Day for a candidate they did not reveal.”

    This is very old news….

    But heck, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    “WASHINGTON — Republican Sen. Rand Paul said Tuesday that illegal immigrants should be allowed to become U.S. taxpayers and ultimately get a shot at citizenship, a significant step for the Tea Party favorite amid growing Republican acceptance of the idea.

    “Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport” the millions already here, the potential 2016 presidential candidate told the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. “Prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into becoming and being taxpaying members of society.”

    “Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers,” said Paul.

  489. Wes says:

    SDC, I wouldn’t dream of directly aligning with the CAGOP. The days when Hiram Johnson, Bill Knowland, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan led a vibrant, competitive political party are as dead as M. John Harrison’js Viriconium.

  490. Walt says:

    Bitter(et al),

    For the last two days when I have gotten off work, I have gotten phone messages on my answering machine with an odd message.

    It is a recorded message that says I am being sued and need to call this number “740 bah blah blah blah blah blah blah” and gives a 5 digit case number. No name of who is calling, or anything else.

    Of course I ignore and do not call.

    Question: What is your take on these phone calls?
    (only potential outstanding lawsuit I can think of would be involved with the Philly A-Holes)

  491. PresidentPaul! says:

    You’re obviously emotionally invested in supporting and defending W. for years. That was a mistake. Sorry for your trouble.

    Learn from it and don’t become invested in Trump.

  492. Wes says:

    Rand Paul was the best candidate running according to Bunu. I love how the best candidate was an early out in the primaries. Maybe more Ronulans need to be the best candidates in their individual races–just as L. Ron Paul was in three presidential runs and a Senate primary.

  493. Wes says:

    Bunu thinks I’m emotionally invested in supporting and defending Trump.

    Jason, I yield the floor. He’s delusional.

  494. Cash Cow TM says:

    Maybe DJT will come out tonight with an embracing of Illegal Dreamers.

    He may also, via executive order, grant U.S. citizenship to all Russians.

    I am so excited that DJT will be speaking before congress that I may crap myself.

    You know BHO has to be seething that he will not be there and is out of the limelight. Of course, he can always go back the the community organizing gig.

  495. Wes says:

    Bunu is emotionally invested in supporting and defending the political equivalent of L. Ron Hubbard. I loathe GWB and am ambivalent about Trump. I guess all the ganja the Ronulans partake of must have some psychedelic effects.

  496. PresidentPaul! says:

    This is why Bernie wanted to be president so badly (and why Trump was a vote against corruption in that sense)
    Western political leaders are guaranteed instant and massive wealth once they leave office. Perhaps problematic?

    Exclusive: Tony Blair’s fortune now stands at three times the amount he has previously claimed, at some £60 million – which includes 10 homes

  497. Wes says:

    Walt, if the moonbats primary Manchin, what is the most likely result? Will the notoriously easily bamboozled West Virginians reject him in the general or use a primary as confirmation bias to reelect him?

  498. jason says:

    Bunu said he “was not a single issue voter” so he didn’t care that Rand Paul is for amnesty.

    So Bunu, if Trump offers legalization for the dreamers will you stop supporting him?

  499. PresidentPaul! says:

    The US “war on terror” has been raging in multiple countries for over fifteen years without end.

    It’s perpetual war without an endpoint whose actual aim is creating massive US government spending and empowering armies of bureaucrats and political pundits who support this garbage.

  500. jason says:

    “Outside chance that Trump comes out for amnesty tonight in which case he would destroy his presidency since the never Trumpers hate him no matter what and his base would then abandon him ceding the government back to the communists again.”

    “Too bad we have so many crappy senators. Best option would be to just shut the Trump presidency down completely in protest until there was a primary challenger in 2020, but the senators are basically useless.”

    I predicted Bunu would be very unhappy with a Trump Presidency.

  501. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    February 28, 2017 at 6:40 pm
    Clarence Thomas is not IN LOVE WITH POWER.
    That is why he may retire earlier than most of these justices.

    – I totally agree. My guess is he retires in 2019.

  502. jason says:

    The US “war on terror” has been raging in multiple countries for over fifteen years without end.”

    Maybe it will when terrorism stops.


  503. jason says:

    (only potential outstanding lawsuit I can think of would be involved with the Philly A-Holes)”

    wes, there will be a discovery phase…

  504. Walt says:

    My Facebook page has just started to settle down with a minimum of anti-DJT rants, and now he is going to be on TV and will stir the leftists all up again…

  505. PresidentPaul! says:

    Support? Who’s supporting?

    Well if you’re comparing him to Jeb then ya i’d probably support Trump.

  506. Tina says:

    The leftists have been triggered all day. First by kac and now trumps speech.

  507. Walt says:


    The leftists in the D party do not like Manchin.
    They say he is not nearly leftist enough.

    Will they mount a campaign to primary him?
    I dunno.

    Manchin still gets lots of support from Indys and even a significant minority swath of Rs in any election in the past.

  508. Robbie says:

    The pathetic nature of the Californian GOP rests solely, at least in my mind, with Pete Wilson. His 1994 re-election campaign marked end of the party in the state. Yes, I know Arnold was governor from 2003 until 2010, but he was an aberration and his tenure did nothing for the party.

    It’s really interesting to compare how Republicans in Texas and California dealt with Hispanics in the mid 1990’s. Texas Republicans looked at Hispanics as an opportunity and replaced the Democrats was the majority party. In California, Wilson used Hispanics in 1994 as scapegoats the Republicans turned the state over to Democrat domination.

    Whenever I see conversation about California politics, I often wonder how different Republican fortunes might be had Deukmejian run for a third term in 1990 and Wilson remained in the Senate. Deukmejian was such a popular governor and Wilson almost certainly would have won a third Senate term in 1994.

    Instead, we’re left with a Republican party in California that resembles the opposition party in North Korea.

  509. Robbie says:

    Walt says:
    February 28, 2017 at 7:42 pm
    My Facebook page has just started to settle down with a minimum of anti-DJT rants, and now he is going to be on TV and will stir the leftists all up again…

    – I’ve stopped looking at my FB page for that very reason. Everyone goes bonkers over everything Trump says.

  510. PresidentPaul! says:

    California was also very urban compared to Texas.

    Don’t worry though Texas is nearly blue and will be soon.

  511. Cash Cow TM says:

    CA very urban…

    Well…there you go.
    You got your answer as to why CA went down the tubes.


  512. jason says:

    Support? Who’s supporting?”

    You said you voted for him in the primary and the GE.

    But you don’t support him?

  513. jason says:

    If he proposes immigration reform I will support him on that.

  514. PresidentPaul! says:

    I support him at times and oppose him at times. It’s not black and white for me.

  515. Cash Cow TM says:

    CA….urban growth…need for big State bucks to provide all sorts of services to the urban areas..just gotta have an umpteen billion dollar mass transit, high speed rail the rubes in the non big urban areas…etc.

  516. jason says:

    He’s delusional.”

    Ya thinks? What was the first clue…

  517. Tina says:

    Drudge does not have a good picture of the 2lb dumbell.

  518. jason says:

    Poor Wobbie.. he really cares about what people say on his FB page.

    It’s so pathetic I actually feel sorry for the poor bastard.

  519. jason says:

    I think Kellyanne should say this:

    “If any woman is really offended I put my tired feet up on the couch I sincerely apologize.

    Anyone else who is offended can GFTs”

  520. Tina says:

    The kac thing is stupid since the obumbler did the same things, multiple times.

  521. Tina says:

    Odds on the ky blue rino showing up drunk.

  522. PresidentPaul! says:

    Venezuela has a Bus driver president who took all the country’s money.

    We have Paul Ryan who is the GOP brain who drove the Oscar Mayer weiner truck before he became leader of the GOP.

    Priebus is sabotaging the Trump presidency already.

  523. Tina says:

    Like prubus, bit no fan of ryano

  524. Mr.Vito says:

    Ron Paul was smart to pocket the cash and quit. If he ever had become President, all of his followers just would have ended up hating him too.

  525. PresidentPaul! says:

    President Donald Trump Lunches with fake news Jake Tapper, George Stephanopoulos, Chuck Todd×480.jpg

    The Priebus white house takes hold

  526. Tina says:

    He oribably head faked them, Thise 3 so called journalists are whores.

  527. jason says:

    I support him at times and oppose him at times. It’s not black and white for me.”

    Funny. Me too.

  528. jason says:

    I support his plan to build up the military.

    What say you?

  529. Tina says:

    Prubus looks drunk.

  530. Tina says:

    My goodness, piglosi looks bad.

  531. ????? says:


  532. Mr.Vito says:

    I’ve never seen the lefties look so constipated.

  533. Bitterlaw says:

    Question: What is your take on these phone calls?
    (only potential outstanding lawsuit I can think of would be involved with the Philly A-Holes)

    It’s BS. They will probably ask you for money to obtain a fake “release.” A real lawsuit has to be served upon you personally or by alternative service (often by mail). If you want to send me the number on FB, I will call and mock them.

  534. Cash Cow TM says:


    He said COW!

    (well actually it was COW-li-forn-i-a)

  535. Bitterlaw says:

    Conway gets hell for putting feet on the coach. Bill Clinton gets a pass from half the country for having Monica under the desk. What a country.

  536. jason says:

    We strongly support NATO.


    Bunu hardest hit.

  537. Mr.Vito says:

    “Bill Clinton gets a pass from half the country for having Monica under the desk.”

    There should have been an investigation into whether throw pillows were involved.

  538. Robbie says:

    Where in the world has this Donald Trump been the last two years? He’s never been better.

  539. Bitterlaw says:

    It would be difficult to find two more divergent views on GWB than Wes and Jason. Yet, they agree that Bunu is delusional. He truly is a uniter.

  540. Bitterlaw says:

    Yeah! A shoutout for the 1876 Centennial Exhibition in Philadelphia. Walt still talks about it.

  541. jason says:

    Conway gets hell for putting feet on the coach. Bill Clinton gets a pass from half the country for having Monica under the desk. What a country.”

    Yep, the hypocrisy is astounding.

    And the half the country who thought it was ok for Bill to have sex with interns and grope women in the WH are very offended by the feet on the couch.

  542. Mr.Vito says:

    “He’s never been better.”


  543. Bitterlaw says:

    There should have been an investigation into whether throw pillows were involved.

    Well, he did spray the dress. I’m not sure how much was left for the pillows.

  544. jason says:

    I want some of whatever Tina is drinking.

  545. Cash Cow TM says:

    The longest list of big words ever used in a DJT political speech!

    List of 4 syllable words DJT used in his speech tonight:
    (in order)

    1. American
    2. infrastructure
    3. security
    4. intelligence
    5. immigration
    6. integrity
    7. obligation
    8. majority
    9. sanctuary
    10. administration
    11. constitution
    12. unanimously
    13. circumstances
    14. inherited
    15. differences
    16. economic
    17. Australia
    18. Academy
    19. Republicans
    20. Eisenhower
    21. intolerable
    22. infrastructure
    23. ObamaCare
    24. Oklahoma
    25. unsustainable
    26. necessity
    27. flexibility
    28. education
    29. remarkable
    30. cooperation
    31. incredible
    32. California (COW-lifornia?)
    33. deportations

  546. Wes says:

    For the record, I was fine with what both Clinton and Conway did.

  547. Walt says:

    My wife and I had low expectations of the DJT speech.

    We both think DJT exceeded our expectations.

    Mrs. Walt said she wondered if they must have given DJT d.r.u.g.s to keep him calm and non-ranting.

  548. Mr.Vito says:

    Did anyone notice Trump stress Obamacare imploding in Kentucky? I think he was quietly kneecapping Beshear…

  549. Cash Cow TM says:

    DJT actually sounded sane.

    He also did a good job preempting the D issues.

  550. jason says:

    Trump looks comfortable and relaxed.

    Alex Castellanos:

    Trump may have been inaugurated on Jan 20th, but became President tonight.

  551. Bitterlaw says:

    I am watching the MSNBC feed. Somebody asked Trump how the Japanese Prime Minister did in golf. He answered diplomatically that he was a quality man.

  552. Cash Cow TM says:

    Good catch, Mr. Vito.

    You are probably right in that it was a premtive strike on Beshear.

  553. Bitterlaw says:

    Maddow thought it was a good speech but of course disagrees with everything he said. She still refuses to distinguish between illegal and legal immigrants.

  554. jason says:

    I didn’t agree with a lot of the nationalistic BS but in general I think Trump did fine.

  555. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Somebody asked Trump how the Japanese Prime Minister did in golf.”

    DJT normally would say:
    “well, the Jap played pretty good, for a guy with such small hands.”

  556. jason says:

    I also don’t forgive Trump for making me miss the Curse of Oak Island.

  557. Bitterlaw says:

    Chris Matthews thinks that Trump’s economic nationalism is a winner. He was moved by the reference to the Navy SEAL’s widow.

  558. Bitterlaw says:

    Here comes the Democrat response. Summary:

    Life was magical under Obama. Trump sucks.

  559. jason says:

    Tom Brokaw says the next 24 hours will be devoted to fact checking the speech.


  560. Cash Cow TM says:

    Democrat response…

  561. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump may have been inaugurated on Jan 20th, but became President tonight.”

  562. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I gave up on that show. Please tell me if they ever find the treasure.

  563. jason says:

    The fact cat union bosses probably liked the speech too.

    Well, you can’t piss everyone off all the time.

  564. Cash Cow TM says:

    Curse of Oak Island…

    Spoiler alert.
    They never find the treasure.

  565. jason says:

    There won’t be any show if they find the treasure.

    Do you want them to find a cure for the epidemic in the Walking Dead?

  566. jason says:

    I wonder who is going to die for them find the treasure.

    I guess the senior Blakenship guy who is like 93 could be a candidate.

  567. blobbie says:

    trump antagonized his base tonight. his base was expecting him to strangle a baby otter on stage, and instead he only spoke about a seal.

    although i like many of the things he has done and have said so repeatedly, i obviously think trump should resign in disgrace and be regulated to being dj at juggalo parties

  568. Mr.Vito says:

    “Do you want them to find a cure for the epidemic in the Walking Dead?”

    There is no cure. Rick actually died the first episode and is living out his own personal hell.

  569. Greymarch says:

    Every word out of Trump’s mouth kept reminding me how incredibly bad of a candidate Hillary was. How the hell does a dem lose Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to Donald Trump? Four months later, I am still dumbfounded.

    That was Trump’s best speech. That was a lousy speech. Even GWB’s SOTU speeches were better. Trump’s bar is so damn low, he can only go up with speeches like this.

  570. jason says:

    Van Jones liked the speech, what did I miss.

    Said if Trump does that repeatedly he will be there for 8 years.

  571. jason says:


    Are you related to Wobbie?

  572. jason says:

    It wasn’t a lousy speech. It was pretty well delivered.

    And btw, GWB delivered some pretty good SOTU speeches, so that bar was not that low.

  573. jason says:

    I give the speech a B on content and an A- on style.

  574. Bitterlaw says:

    WTF! Van Jones said that Trump became President when he spoke about the SEAL and recognized his widow. He said that he will oppose him but Democrats better be afraid if Trump speaks with that dignity or he will be in office for 8 years.

  575. jason says:

    Where is Corey? Let’s see if he hates Trump more than Van Jones does.

    That is one heck of a benchmark.

  576. jason says:

    Hey Bitter, I beat you to it on Van Jones. GFY.

  577. Bitterlaw says:

    I watched the show Finding Bigfoot a few times. My son used to make fun of me. He said, “Dad. Would you continue to watch a show called Finding Moose if they never found a moose?”

  578. NYCmike says:

    Sounded ok on the radio – typical Trump in a setting that calls for decorum and discipline and class…….kind of like a person trying to build buildings in a city that is hostile to individuals who are publicly crass, often insensitive to others, make it a habit of telling people how great his vision is compared to theirs……

  579. jason says:

    Van Jones AND Greymarch had something good to say about Trump.


  580. NYCmike says:

    DC sucks!

  581. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have to admit I liked what DJT said in his speech tonight.

    During the many, many many months on the campaign trail of clips from his campaign speeches I never saw anything that resembled what he said tonight.

    –Excellent ploy to speak before congress and get big viewing audience…bypass MSM anti-DJT filter and speak directly to the American people of what a DJT presidency is all about.

    –big contrast to the recent OSCARS disaster

    –blows up media portrayal of DJT administration in disarray

    I would say it does put Ds on their heels.

    Does this mean DJT is REALLY doing a pivot from mean spirited vindictive, tweeting a-hole to an adult president with a vision and plan?

    How will the actions match the words?

  582. NYCmike says:

    “Where is Corey? Let’s see if he hates Trump more than Van Jones does.

    That is one heck of a benchmark.”


  583. jason says:

    Finding Bigfoot is a ridiculous show.

    Ok, I watch it once in a awhile. Sue me.

  584. Mr.Vito says:

    “How will the actions match the words?”

    CNN will have a special tomorrow on whether KACs carpet matches the drapes.

  585. Cash Cow TM says:

    I did notice that DJT looked at the R side about 95% of the time.

    The sitting and mum D side…not so much.

  586. jason says:

    Now Walt says something good about Trump…

    Wobbie did too.

    We really need Corey to come here and accuse us of “being won over by Trump”.

  587. Cash Cow TM says:

    Gave the D response a C-/D+

    Was it recorded before DJT’s speech?

  588. jason says:

    Huh, Walt, the R side is a lot bigger than the D side.

  589. jason says:

    Yes. And the text was available before DT’s speech.

  590. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt is still not a fan of DJT.

    But Cow is slowly being won over…
    At least tonight…

    Easy to say what you are going to do.
    Much harder to actually get er done.
    Actions speak louder than words.

  591. Mr.Vito says:

    “Gave the D response a C-/D+”

    Shouldn’t a D response get a D?

  592. NYCmike says:

    “Does this mean DJT is REALLY doing a pivot from mean spirited vindictive, tweeting a-hole to an adult president with a vision and plan?”

    -I predict YES.

    Negotiations have entered a new phase. You will see a new person. He has pushed the boundaries out, and now will, most likely, compromise. Hopefully, he will maintain mostly conservative principles in his policies, but that will depend upon Congress and their ability to articulate a clear and cohesive vision.*

    *Trump’s approach has been the exact opposite of Congressional Republicans for most of Obama’s terms. They consistently took options/powers off of the table BEFORE negotiations started. YES, I am still waiting for such “luminaries” like MD, Author, jason, etc to admit how right I was and wrong they were. Eventually….

  593. Mr.Vito says:

    “Actions speak louder than words.”

    Especially for a mute…

  594. Cash Cow TM says:


    from the TV angle on ABC it often showed what APPEARED to be 2/3 of the audience seated and not clapping when the Rs were standing and clapping enthusiastically.

  595. NYCmike says:

    “-I predict YES.”

    -I reserve the right to reverse this statement, so jason can continue to say “NYC is fighting himself again”.

  596. jason says:

    Tapper slammed the choice for the response.

    He said an ex-KY governor who was replaced by an R was not a good pick, the Dems needed to go with a rising star.

    Of course the reason they picked Beshear waa because he is an Obamacare sycophant.

  597. Bitterlaw says:

    Nikki Haley on MSNBC

  598. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Actions speak louder than words.”

    “Especially for a mute…”
    But not for a blind person…

  599. Mr.Vito says:

    I watched election coverage of the REAL alt-right yesterday. Doubt they will be pleased… but they said Trump is not one of them anyway. They were mostly concerned about the Overton window.

  600. Cash Cow TM says:


    (just saying)

  601. Greymarch says:

    #600: I didnt say anything good about Trump. I said it was Trump’s best speech; that doesnt mean it was a good speech. Trump really is awful at this kind of thing.

  602. Mr.Vito says:

    “Tapper slammed the choice for the response.”

    He got some skin in the game, or something?

  603. jason says:

    ‘I reserve the right to reverse this statement, so jason can continue to say “NYC is fighting himself again”.

    I can continue to say it anyway.

    Now GFY.

  604. Wes says:

    I thought Dems picked Beshear because he’s the Token White Guy in the party.

  605. NYCmike says:

    “SEEN ON FACEBOOK: “I want to spike my drink with Nancy Pelosi’s tears.” “

  606. jason says:

    He got some skin in the game, or something?”


    He is probably mad the DNC did not clear it with the MSM.

  607. Walt says:

    Had to get up at 6 a.m. this morning.

    Same for Wed. and Thurs. morning…

    This temporary part time job requiring early rising sucks.

    [Off to Bed]

  608. NYCmike says:

    “Now GFY.” – I’m rubber, you’re glue….

  609. NYCmike says:

    Did anyone check Author’s Twitter?

  610. jason says:

    Drudge did not update the site after the speech.. maybe he didn’t like it.

  611. Walt says:

    On Facebook, the only D attack on DJT speech I saw was about the SEAL who died.

    The Ds are saying DJT’s words imply it was the military’s fault and not DJT’s the SEAL died.

    Oh, and of course they are still apoplectic about KAC putting her feet on the couch.

  612. jason says:

    ” I didnt say anything good about Trump. I said it was Trump’s best speech.”

    I love this place.

  613. Wes says:

    Did Schumer or Pelosi pick the respondent? (The opposition congressional leaders always pick the person for that thankless job.) I would guess Pelosi made the pick, and Schumer selects next year.

  614. NYCmike says:

    Author’s Twitter is great….if you want to see pics of Trump’s hair looking bad, read opinions about Melania being “plastic”, and find out that Author skipped the speech……..maybe he will mention “echo chamber” sometime in the next couple of hours.

  615. NYCmike says:

    Also, thanks to Author, saw Schumer give a response. Typical Dem BS, the HAVES are getting, the Have-Nots are paying for it. They have NOTHING else……

  616. NYCmike says:

    Cheers and Good Night!

    Diogenes, have you found what you search for yet?

  617. Robbie says:

    The CNN insta poll is extremely positive for Trump. An astonishing 78% had a positive reaction to the speech.

    Memo to Trump: When you act presidential, America rewards you bigly!

  618. Robbie says:

    Cash Cow TM says:
    February 28, 2017 at 10:24 pm
    Curse of Oak Island…
    Spoiler alert.
    They never find the treasure.

    – Kind of like “Finding Bigfoot”. Every week I hope is going to be the week they find one. They never do. Sigh.

  619. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    February 28, 2017 at 10:52 pm
    Finding Bigfoot is a ridiculous show.
    Ok, I watch it once in a awhile. Sue me.

    – I’ve seen every episode. I don’t care that they’ve never found one.

  620. Waingro says:

    I think this is a mistake. But I also would love to see a SCOTUS with Gorsuch on board gut the 9th Circus’ ridiculous decision.

    “Amid positive reviews of speech, WH officials have scrapped plans for Trump to sign new travel ban EO tomorrow, per a senior admin official”

  621. Robbie says:

    The Trump team should simply institute their new enhanced vetting procedures and just scrap the travel bans.

  622. Waingro says:

    #630, he’s holding on for dear life tonight:

    “Guys, you don’t know if that was really a success. You’ll know pretty soon as the approval polls come in. Right now he’s in a rough spot”

    “Oh we’re getting excited about insta polls again?”

  623. Waingro says:

    Author now “feels” and is “with” Nancy Pelosi.

  624. janz says:

    Some of the funniest comments tonight:

    “Lip reading Pelosi tonight – We’re so f**ked!”


    “All the Dem ladies looked liked they just left a KKK meeting.”

    I just heard snippets of Trump’s speech. However, what I heard was amazing, and most of the commentary I’ve read has been one of surprising approval. He needed good messaging tonight, and he delivered it with strength and comforting calm.

  625. Mr.Vito says:

    No one wants to feel Nancy Pelosi.

  626. Tina says:

    Excellent soeech, his best yet. Great job pres. Trump. Now, kets see if 2lb dumbell and the ky blu rino move.

  627. blobbie says:

    trump called all republicans sexist in his speech!

    obviously i support many things he has done, like … wearing shoes

    but i hate him with the fiery passion of a global warming expert talking to a climate denier

  628. Mr.Vito says:

    I am against shoe-wearing.

  629. Mr.Vito says:

    Free the Hose!

  630. Tina says:

    Has Rotties Fake News chimed in?

  631. Tina says:

    It was evident that Arthur was a drat plant.

  632. Tina says:

    Letting illegals in is not compassion.

    Slap,at w and the rhinos.

  633. jason says:

    “President Donald Trump’s first address to Congress received largely positive reviews from viewers, with 57% who tuned in saying they had a very positive reaction to the speech, according to a new CNN/ORC poll of speech-watchers.
    Nearly 7-in-10 who watched said the President’s proposed policies would move the country in the right direction and almost two-thirds said the president has the right priorities for the country. Overall, about 7-in-10 said the speech made them feel more optimistic about the direction of the country.”

    Author and Pelosi hardest hit.

  634. blobbie says:

    I am against shoe-wearing.
    as all good republicans should be!!!!! and yet another reason i am against trump … although i have defended trump on many occasions

    however, i cannot defend trump today when kellyanne, who some of nytime’s reporters’ friends’ cousins overheard someone say is trump’s mistress, wore shoes while jumping up and down on the oval office coach today!

  635. blobbie says:

    CNN/ORC poll of speech-watchers

    i don’t support cnn/orc polls or any poll that is not run by the dnc

  636. blobbie says:

    too bad jeb bush did not give the speech

    i would have liked it

  637. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    535. “CA….urban growth…need for big State bucks to provide all sorts of services to the urban areas..just gotta have an umpteen billion dollar mass transit, high speed rail the rubes in the non big urban areas…etc.”

    Actually, to be fair, California derives most its tax revenue from the very rich. 80% of the state income tax revenue comes from those who earn over $400,000 a year. And 70% of the state revenue is from income tax.

    The irony the soundness of California finances is depend on how well tech barons and other very rich people are doing. You make a million dollars in California, and your hit with a 13.3% marginal tax rate for state income taxes. At $263.000 your at 10.3%.

  638. Wes says:

    Reviewing Trump’s speech from last night, I felt as if I had been sucked into a time warp and plopped into Louisiana in 1930 with Huey Long addressing the State Legislature. Clearly populism has largely replaced conservatism as the ideological cause celebre of the GOP. To be fair, I did actually appreciate and agree with much of it. Nonetheless, Trump advocated with different names things Obama proposed during his presidential addresses.

    At the same time, Trump struck an optimistic tone much in contrast to Obama’s usually apocalyptic declarations of divisions and wrs against this or that group.

    It’s going to be a wild four years.

  639. NYCmike says:

    “Memo to Trump: When you act presidential, America rewards you bigly!”

    -Memo to Robbie: Presidents are elected every 4 years. The only “reward” is re-election. It is wonderful if the President is popular, but hopefully it will be because his policies are good ones and the country is benefiting from them, as opposed to them liking you due to giving a good speech.

  640. NYCmike says:

    “Nonetheless, Trump advocated with different names things Obama proposed during his presidential addresses.”


    As long as a Republican Congress acts with proper restraint, good policy ideas, and effective communication techniques, few of the “things Obama proposed” will see the light of day.

  641. NYCmike says:

    I think Wissing knew the speech would be well-received. That is why he did not post a new thread for the SOTU.

  642. jason says:

    Obama signing $60 million book deal. One chapter will deal on the evils of benefiting from political office.

  643. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s Ash Wednesday. Walt still remembers when Adam and Eve died.

  644. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey and Author will pass on Obama’s book. They are waiting for Hillary to write hers.

  645. Bitterlaw says:

    Of course, Walt remembers when God said, “Walt! Turn on the lights.” It was edited later.

  646. DW says:

    The most incredible moment of the speech was when Trump was talking about our fellow citizens who have been murdered by criminal illegal aliens, and how he was going to stop it…and then many Democrats BOOED! Talk about being on the wrong side of an issue, but I guess if your enemy is going to fall on a sword, just pop some corn and watch.

    Everyone talked about the Navy Seal widow, and rightly so, but I was brought to tears by seeing that grieving father whose son was slaughtered by a criminal illegal alien.

  647. Tina says:

    Not a good moments for the drats. Piglosi looked terrible. They refused to stand at the opening entrance. So disrespectful to the office of the presidency.

  648. DW says:

    Even David Brooks liked the speech, but Mark Shields said he did not, and found the presence of the seal widow there inappropriate.

  649. Sean Spicer says:

    That was the greatest speech ever delivered. President Trump is the greatest orator in the history of mankind.

  650. Sean Spicer says:

    President Trump is the Great Communicator. What that name has already been used? No it hasn’t. What? Shut up. Get the Phuck outta my conference. Fake News!

  651. blobbie says:

    “The evidence against Trump and Russia is huge and mounting every day. We see it, he can’t lie about it,” O’Donnell said outside the White House after leading an anti-Trump rally before the president’s first address to a joint session of Congress.

    “He is going down and so will all of his administration. The charge is treason,” she said.

    although i have supported trump when he has deserved it, like when he wore a blue tie last night,

    i cannot ignore patriots like rosie odonnell

  652. jason says:

    Even if there was a taped conversation of Trump asking Putin to support him in the election I doubt it would be considered treason.

    In the first place, he was not in office. Second, he would have needed to ask Putin to do something illegal, like hey Vlad, hack the DNC for me, willya? Third he would have had to offer something in return.

    World leaders express support for candidates in other countries they feel are better for their interests all the time.

  653. jason says:

    Mark Shields has sure passed up a lot of good opportunities to retire.

  654. Waingro says:

    Olivia Messer?Verified account @OliviaMesser

    Talk-show host and national darling Oprah Winfrey says she’s reconsidering the possibility of a presidential run

  655. jason says:

    I wonder what Obama offered for these endorsements:

    Back in 2008, Castro called Obama “more intelligent, refined, and even-handed” than John McCain.


    “if I were American, I’d vote for Obama,” Chavez said in a televised interview that aired Sunday.

    The Venezuelan leader called Obama “a good guy” and said if the U.S. president were a Venezuelan, “I think … he’d vote for Chavez.

  656. Barrett says:

    My two cents about Trump’s speech last night –

    The Dow jumped 200 points after his speech. I thought he balanced his speech well between providing substance, promoting unity, and sticking to his promises.

    Trump said everything he needed to say, including the promised funding to improve infrastructure, reaffirming our committment to NATO, and taking on ISIS.

    The problem last night was the Democrats. Most Democratic women in congress wore white to promote women’s rights….I recall another group of people throughout U.S. history who wore white to promote a particular demographic (but they also wore hoods).

    Then there were the two democrats who didn’t stand up to applaud for the young lady who had Pompe Disease, simply for the sake of protesting Trump. That was just wrong.

    In short, Trump gets an A. The Congressional Republicans get a solid B, and the Democrats get an F-. Last night was a win for the Republicans.

  657. DW says:

    676 – he is one of those types, like Pelosi, who will retire when six men carry them out in a box to the waiting Hearse.

  658. jason says:

    I will make NYC happy.

    If Oprah runs and wins, I will go “back to where I came from”.

  659. DW says:

    679 – Democrats did themselves no favors last night. I still say the worst moment for them was booing Trump when he said he would stop criminal aliens from murdering American citizens.

  660. jason says:

    I am hoping Bunu didn’t like the speech.

    I wanted to like it, but then Van Jones liked it.

    If Bunu likes it I will have to reconsider, I must have missed something big like Trump was going to audit the Fed or abolish Homeland Security.

  661. jason says:

    On the other hand, Tom Brokaw didn’t like it, so that’s reassuring.

  662. DW says:

    Van Jones was the guy who said election night was a ‘white-lash’ against a black president.

  663. Mr.Vito says:

    “The Obama administration funneled billions of dollars to activist organizations through a Department of Justice slush fund scheme, according to congressional investigators.”

  664. Trump says:

    “I wanted to like it, but then Van Jones liked it.”

    Did the Jeb sucker and Charles like the speech?

  665. Bitterlaw says:

    MD had no comment on the speech. Author watched wrestling on tv.

  666. Waingro says:

    #688, heh. Yeah, Author didn’t watch it, but he tweeted at least 20 times about it. “I’m REALLY just watching wrestling but….this the worst speech ever, Trump is satan and polls schmolls.” Etc.

  667. jason says:

    Yeah, Wobbie liked the speech.

    But there is still hope, Corey has not weighed in.

  668. Bitterlaw says:

    “TARENTUM, Pa. (AP) – Police in Pennsylvania say a woman fatally shot her husband after arguing about a casserole she burned, then took a photo of the body, texted it to a friend and showered before calling 911…His wife, 38-year-old Teresa Drum, told officers her husband shot himself after they argued.

    Court records say she showed officers the cellphone photo, claiming she sent it to a friend because she didn’t know what to do. Police say there was no gun in Dennis Drum’s hand in that photo.

    Lesson – Don’t take photos of your victim and text your friend.

  669. jason says:

    Forgot about Charles RIP USA…..

  670. jason says:

    This is why you have to take preemptive action. If my wife burned the casserole I would…., huh, is this being archived?

  671. jason says:

    Author used to support at least 80% of what Trump talked about last night.

    And he whined when we called him a turncoat.

  672. Bitterlaw says:

    Author can’t go back now. The voice of a new generation has to carry the burden to the finish line. I wonder when he will start praising Elizabeth Warren.

  673. jason says:

    What I liked about Trump’s speech:

    Tax cuts
    Obamacare replacement
    Vetting immigrants
    Energy independence
    Support for police
    Support for NATO
    Inner city rebuilding
    Charter schools and vouchers
    Support for vets
    Immigration reform
    Strong defense

    What I was ambivalent about:

    The wall (yes in some parts, but other should be virtual, monitored by drones, surveillance, sensors, etc.)
    Infrastructure: privatize as much as possible, resist pork and boondoggles

    What I didn’t like:

    Whining about about money spent on wars and terrorism (one terror attack like 9/11 cost $3.3 trillion in the US alone)
    Criminalizing illegals as if there are not criminals in any universe of 10 million people.
    Whining about allies paying “fair share” …it might be in our interest to pay more than the “fair share”.
    “Fair trade”. zzzzz… code word for protectionist BS

    What I am glad he didn’t talk about:

    The media
    Climate change
    Bathroom politics

  674. Mr.Vito says:

    Ben Shapiro: Top Democrats Refuse To Stand, Clap For Navy SEAL Widow Honored By Trump

  675. Wes says:

    I’m starting to think the GOP will have a great year in 2018. Dems are alienating themselves with these extremist stunts. Notice only Manchin consistently stood for Trump. Heitkamp, Tester, Donnelly, Baldwin, Nelson, McCaskill, Stabenow, and Brown did not. Trump will remember. Americans will remember all the boos.

  676. Mr.Vito says:

    “Whining about about money spent on wars and terrorism”

    We’ve spent too much with little to show for it on people who don’t want it. He unequivocally plans to fight terror.

    “Criminalizing illegals as if there are not criminals in any universe of 10 million people.”

    In other universes of 10 million people, the criminals are jailed or otherwise kept out of society.

    “Whining about allies paying “fair share” …it might be in our interest to pay more than the “fair share”

    The fair share is reference to paying the 2% they promised. He didn’t say we shouldn’t pay more.

    As for fair trade, protectionism, and tariffs, we can’t afford to just be giving stuff away anymore. Time for us to get real about it.

  677. Mr.Vito says:

    Ben Shapiro says the speech was a home run… he did not support Trump.

  678. DW says:

    Wes, Congressional Democrats showed up last night prepared to fight back at a boorish antagonist, and instead fought a statesman and looked like fools doing it.

  679. Wes says:

    I would argue Trump is the most media savvy President since Reagan and Clinton.

  680. jason says:

    Mr. Vito doesn’t agree with what I didn’t like about the speech.

    Such is life.

    We differ sharply on the 3 of my 4 points. I think he is wrong, naive and shortsighted on them. However on this one:

    “In other universes of 10 million people, the criminals are jailed or otherwise kept out of society.”

    Exactly. So why single out that universe. Criminals are criminals no matter where they came from or how. It’s not because they are illegal, it’s because they are criminals. I object to the generalization. I hope he deports all the rapists, drug dealers and criminals.

  681. Awesome says:

    You single out any criminals you can.

    What do you have for illegals, criminals or otherwise?

    Tariffs or border tax are a winner. At least according to Reagan and Harley-Davidson.

  682. GPO says:

    republicans have any top tier recruit to go against Casey in PA, or Nelson in FLA?

  683. Awesome says:

    And the best action for us re Europe is hand over Easter Europe to Russia and Western Europe to Isis.

  684. janz says:

    #659 sandiego, thanks for posting the great LATs article regarding our state’s vulnerable finances.

  685. janz says:

    #703 Wes, I agree.

  686. Wes says:

    GPO, although no top-tier Republican has stepped forward to challenge Bob Casey, Rick Scott is nearly certain to challenge Bill Nelson.

  687. Mr.Vito says:

    “So why single out that universe.”

    Because they aren’t being jailed and kept out… says it right there.

  688. Mr.Vito says:

    “I think he is wrong, naive and shortsighted on them.”

    Of course, I feel the same about you on those things.

  689. Mr.Vito says:

    But we are on different sides of the ideological spectrum, so let’s concentrate on the many things we agreed on.

  690. Bitterlaw says:

    But we are on different sides of the ideological spectrum, so let’s concentrate on the many things we agreed on.

    Is this how A-holes fight now? Pathetic.

  691. Barrett says:

    Yeah, I did have a hard time liking the speech because Van Jones complimented it.

    Racist f*cker

  692. NYCmike says:

    jason –

    (President Oprah) Take me with you!
    Trump speech – nice list

  693. Tina says:

    Looks like in the compassion world

    W attacks trump, but never the obumbler.

    Failed president.

    Get a room with goober and mcamnesty.

  694. Bitterlaw says:

    Barrett – It’s OK. Van Jones said that he will continue to oppose Trump in every way. I think you can still like the speech.

  695. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 1, 2017 at 1:12 pm
    GPO, although no top-tier Republican has stepped forward to challenge Bob Casey, Rick Scott is nearly certain to challenge Bill Nelson.

    – Scott’s definitely frozen the field in Florida, but he did just take a position with the RGA so there may be some hesitancy on his part. Of course, it’s not as if he couldn’t just quit the RGA position.

    I’m surprised Jeff Atwater hasn’t shown any interest. He looked primed to run in 2016, but got cold feet at the last moment. He’s have fewer rough edges than Scott as well.

  696. NYCmike says:

    jason and Mr. Vito fight is like watchingzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  697. Robbie says:

    I just read through a portion of Author’s twitter feed. Given his past comments on this site, it appears he’s made quite a 180 in his political views.

  698. NYCmike says:

    “W attacks trump, but never the obumbler.”

    -Yes, this dropped Dubya down further in my book.

  699. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump administration stopped the extradition of that ex-CIA agent from extradition to Italy from Portugal.

  700. EML says:

    Where females fear to tread: KATIE HOPKINS reports from Sweden, the Scandi-lib paradise where terrified women have vanished from the streets and a conspiracy of silence and self-censorship on immigration buries the truth

    One young girl of 27 — let’s call her Lucy — is now terrified of going out alone. She lives near a busy shopping centre which draws migrants from no-go zones, and dreads her walk to work and home.

    Her apartment was broken into last week in the middle of the day. The burglars took her laptop and her car keys, and later her car. The police told her they were too busy to come.

    She doesn’t want her picture to be seen now. Not in case the migrants attack again, but because the feminists will come after her and hound her as a racist for speaking out. The migrant men scare her. But it is Swedish women who have silenced her.

  701. Tina says:

    I may run for president next. If oprah and igor, can do it, so can I.

    I will trigger a lot of jebots and drats.

  702. DW says:

    724 – Congressional Democrats boo any attempts to stop this.

  703. DW says:

    you know it had to be very very painful for MSNBC to have to write this headine:

    “Dow closes at all-time high as stocks rally after President Trump’s speech to Congress”

    Of course they couldn’t just leave it at that…not without adding a sub-line with a dig:

    “Trump’s speech Tuesday night was widely praised for its positive tone but lacked specifics about tax reform and deregulation, two key components of the market’s post-election rally.”

  704. Barrett says:

    GWB was never high in the book to begin with. We have had 16 years of bad leadership, which means that in this millenium, we have yet to see a good president.

    Let’s see what Trump can do.

  705. Mr.Vito says:

    “GWB was never high in the book…”

    He was high in the car that one time.

  706. Wes says:

    A side note about the Dem response last night:

    Although a two-term Governor of Kentucky, Beshear won once by beating a corrupt Governor and once by beating a guy who scarcely campaigned. He created one of the worst run Obamacare exchanges in the country and despite his best efforts, could never stem the GOP tide in Kentucky.

    In 1996, Beshear became the first person Mitch McConnell beat for Senate by double digits. In 2015, Beshear watched helplessly as Matt Bevin thrashed Jack Conway for Governor and dragged four other Republicans across the finish line in the row offices. Although Dems would hold the State House throughout Beshear’s gubernatorial tenure, Republicans built a lopsided majjority in the State Senate and won the State House just over 10 months after he left office.

    That’s the kind of record of success for a Democrat I can get behind!

  707. PresidentPaul! says:

    I liked the speech. It was just standard Trump in a softer tone.

    Trump backs off comprehensive immigration reform in his speech (good)

  708. Wes says:

    We had average leadership at the beginning of the millennium from 1-1-2000 to 1-20-2001 when Bill Clinton was President, Barrett. It was all downhill from there under GWB and Obama. I certainly hope Trump can be a McKinley- or Coolidge-style above-average President.

  709. Wes says:

    Bunu has a problem with Latinos now. I can only assume Latinos have started converting to Judaism in large numbers.

  710. NYCmike says:

    -More evidence to back up “CG”‘s opinion of Trump as a terribly immoral type soul!

  711. PresidentPaul! says:

    Nope, illegal immigrants will turn Texas and the country blue and bankrupt it as well.

    I support legal immigration.

  712. Wes says:

    I’m against illegal immigration too (unlike Rand Paul), but there’s no evidence Latinos are making Texas a Democrat bastion. Local Republicans have made great efforts to woo them and built accordingly a strong coalition that’s essentially buried the Texas Dems outside a few enclaves.

  713. PresidentPaul! says:

    GW Bush, after calling him Trump a racist and defending fake news, also hints Trump may be working with the Russians.

  714. PresidentPaul! says:

    Of course Texas is going blue. Romney won it by about 1.3 million whereas Trump won by about 1/2 million. In four years 2020 Texas will be a swing state.

    Same in Arizona. Romney won by 200K despite losing the election. Trump won the election and only carried Arizona by 100K.

    The GOP is going to lose ALL those states,

  715. Wes says:

    Democrats didn’t make vote gains in either of those states. They essentially held static. Trump lost ground from Romney. That’s not surprising given the unpopularity of both Trump and Hillary.

    Even with his shedding votes, Republicans lost no ground downballot, suggesting it was local voters holding Trump at arm’s length rather than a sudden leftward shift that caused Trump to run behind where Romney had run.

  716. PresidentPaul! says:

    Have congressional totals to prove that? Trump over performed Romney nationally of course.

    You think he unperformed specifically in Texas and Arizona?

  717. Wes says:

    Remember, Dole lost Arizona and won Texas by six points in 1996. That could have meant the GOP would lose ground. Instead, the GOP has consistently held power in both states for the past two decades.

  718. Wes says:

    Trump got 46% of the total vote in 2016. Romney took 47% in 2012. Trump didn’t overperform Romney..

  719. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 1, 2017 at 5:51 pm
    I’m against illegal immigration too (unlike Rand Paul), but there’s no evidence Latinos are making Texas a Democrat bastion. Local Republicans have made great efforts to woo them and built accordingly a strong coalition that’s essentially buried the Texas Dems outside a few enclaves.

    – I thought Bunu’s Texas comment was goofy, but I didn’t bother to respond. My read of Texas is Hispanics and Republicans coexist quite well there. As I noted earlier in the thread, the difference in the way Texas and California Republicans dealt with Hispanics in the 1990’s really shows in today’s voting patterns. If only Deukmejian had for a third term in 1990, California might still be winnable for Republicans.

  720. NYCmike says:

    The more successful Trump becomes, the less Bunu will like him, the more he will become unhinged like he was before.

  721. Tina says:

    Bubu wants hillary. Pretty obvious.

  722. lisab says:

    Judge throws drunk driver’s mom in jail for laughing at victim’s family in court

    When Lillard heard giggles from the family of Amanda Kosal, 25, who, according to NBC affiliate WDIV in Michigan admitted she was drunk when she struck an SUV head-on, killing 31-year-old Jerome Zirker and severely injuring his fiancée, 31-year-old Brittany Johnson, this past summer, she couldn’t just sit back and listen.

    Instead, the judge paused the victim’s family as they read impact statements to scold the man and woman involved.

    “Whoever can sit here at a tragic moment like this and laugh and smile when somebody has lost a family member … in the entire time that Mr. Zirker’s sister was speaking, that clown — and that’s what I am going to call him, a clown — was sitting there smiling and laughing,” said Lillard.

    “And you can go, too,” the judge added, pointing to Kosal’s mother, Donna. “Because if you don’t know how to act, you can go to jail. So leave.”

  723. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Another California Democratic politician has gone down because of his valiant battle for progressive policies.

    David Roberts, the only Democrat on the San Diego Board of Supervisors, was defeated in his re-election attempt last November. He has now filed for workers compensation, citing “overuse of his right arm” at his job as supervisor among other things.

    Previously, the County of San Diego paid three of his former female employees, including his former chief of staff, $310,000 because of the “hostile work environment” he created. Robert’s, who is openly gay, favored one male employee who became his personal chauffeur and received special treatment, and also used his officer for political purposes, among other alleged improprieties.

  724. jason says:

    GW Bush, after calling him Trump a racist”

    He didn’t even call her Trump a racist…

  725. Walt says:

    Upon scanning Facebook, except for the Occupy Democrats and one left wing loon, all the rest of the far left seem to have vacated the anti-Trump bile.

  726. Alternative facts says:

    #748 Stupid Liberal activist judges making up their own rules!

  727. lisab says:

    #748 was for Bitterlaw

  728. Robbie says:

    Looks like it’s Jeff Sessions’ turn in the barrel over the media’s ongoing infatuation with Russia. As a Senator, Sessions met twice last year with Russia’s ambassador. Once was at the convention and the other was in September. Oh, the horror! These stories are getting ridiculous.

  729. PresidentPaul! says:

    CNN: Trump misled the fake-news on immigration to get good coverage pre-speech

    Trump administration officials fed news outlets misinformation ahead of President Trump’s address to Congress Tuesday night, hoping to get more positive press coverage, CNN reported Wednesday afternoon.

    Ahead of Trump’s speech, he told numerous news outlets, “The time is right for an immigration bill, as long as there is compromise on both sides,” hinting that he may call for immigration reform, including a possible path to legal status for undocumented immigrants, in his speech to Congress.

  730. PresidentPaul! says:

    More proof that moderates, RINOs and NeverTrumpers are much more dangerous than Democrats.

    The Spectator Index

    BREAKING: Senator Lindsey Graham says special prosecutor needed if Jeff Sessions spoke to Russian ambassador during presidential campaign

  731. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, lisab. An equally effective result would have been a 10 minute recess while the victims’ families beat the crap out of that woman.

  732. Tina says:

    How many times has goober and mcamnesty met with the russians,

    Thise two ahiles need another job.

  733. Mr.Vito says:

    Weren’t they in the wikileaks?

  734. Mr.Vito says:

    It’s becoming clear this is a coordinated attack on the presidency and Obama is involved.

    Maybe a special prosecutor is needed to look into that…

  735. Bitterlaw says:

    I have a busy day. GFY.

  736. janz says:

    Did you see where Valerie Jarrett has now moved into the Obama DC home. It appears that the trifecta of Obama/Jarrett and Eric Holder on the sidelines, lives on to slop havoc on the Trump administration in order to salvage and/or sustain the Obama legacy. The new social progressive Democrat party has become a party of scumbags.

  737. NYCmike says:

    “It’s becoming clear this is a coordinated attack on the presidency and Obama is involved.”

    -While I could agree with this, what makes you think Obama is involved?

  738. NYCmike says:

    ” The new social progressive Democrat party has become a party of scumbags.”

    -They are just more open about it now. The Clintons are of the same ilk, but he covered up for it with his Wes-approved charisma.

  739. Mr.Vito says:

    “What makes you think Obama is involved?”

    The headlines saying Obama administration is involved was my first clue.

  740. NYCmike says:

    “The headlines saying Obama administration is involved was my first clue.”

    -You sassy Sock! My cat is ready to find some loose threads!

  741. Robbie says:

    No to a special prosecutor. As we saw with the CIA leak investigation, these guys go off on their own and end up far afield from their original mandate. Ken Starr, under a different law, started with Whitewater and ended up with Monica. My view is no thanks to that again.

  742. Robbie says:

    It’s no coincidence two stories about Russia appeared in the papers just one day after Trump delivered a well received address to Congress.

    That said, I commend Trump for not going on a Twitter rant about this topic, so far. The press will tire itself out on this bogus story in a day or so. No need for him to give more attention to it.

  743. Phil says:


    I agree completely. The whole thing is crap. Let it burn itself out. Oh, and Claire McKaskill is pathetic.

  744. Waingro says:

    This Sessions story seems like a TOTAL nothingburger to me. Outside of far left partisans and the MFM, I can’t see anyone caring about this.

    He just needs to ride the storm for a few days.

  745. jason says:

    The MSM is making a big deal out of Melania’s 10k dress.

    The 100K dress Meryl Streep used while bashing Trump was no problem of course.

  746. NYCmike says:

    -HHR lawyers/shysters, get to it! Need some free information/expertise.

  747. JC says:


    What really ticks me off are the uniparty ‘republicans’ who literally dash in front of the cameras to attack our side. It’s always the same stooges (McCain, Graham, Chaffatz, ect) who go out of their way to undermine either Trump or the conservative wing. And the media can say ‘see, even republicans are against this!’

    They say Session’s should ‘recuse himself’. BS. That’s an admission to guilt, which there is none.

    It’s no coincidence that this garbage story dropped right after Trump’s well delivered speech – WAPO probably had it on the shelf for months. Dozens of other ‘news’ organizations dropped russian related stories yesterday too. All of this is literally banana republic style stuff – the collusion between the dems and the media is astounding.

  748. NYCmike says:

    10k = bad
    100k = good

    Didn’t you get the memo?

    “1 “0” bad, 2 “0”‘s good!”

  749. NYCmike says:

    7 7 7

    Y E S ! ! !

  750. NYCmike says:


  751. Waingro says:

    Trump should hopefully see that he has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GAIN BY WORKING WITH DEMS. Even if they sign on to any of his agenda, they will ALWAYS be looking for a reason to undermine and end his presidency.


    –forget about the 1 Trillion dollar “infrastructure” bill.
    –forget about “paid family leave”
    –forget about replacing Obamacare subsidies with new watered down subsidies in the form of “tax credits” that creates a new entitlement.
    –forget about full blown comprehensive legalization (which he is still rumored to be “softening” on despite cutting that out of his speech.)

    These are things in which he will likely need some Dem support to get them rammed through. Tell them: They get nothing and like it. And just focus on getting stuff done with the GOP.

  752. Waingro says:

    From a liberal on a message board I go onto every now and then. This is their mentality. Trump needs to recognize this.

    “The Dems aren’t overplaying their hand.

    They should howl for Sessions’ head on a pike. They won’t get a Sessions resignation right now, but they will bloody him and bloody the Trump Admin.

    The goal is to wound the Trump Admin every chance they get so that they can slow them down and limit their ability to push their agenda through. The Dems have no other way to make an impact. The only tool in their arsenal for the next 2 years (at least) is to throw punches and bloody Trump whenever possible. “

  753. EML says:

    What I can’t stand about that is the hypocrisy. Obama said a couple years ago and Elizabeth Warren said late last year something along the lines of “obstructionism hurts the safety and security of the American people”. So did they lie or are Democrats now hurting the safety and security of the American people?

  754. EML says:

    Beau Biden’s widow is having an affair with Beau’s [still married] brother Hunter.

  755. Robbie says:

    If he hasn’t learned it by now, I hope Trump soon realizes it was a mistake to pick a fight with the spy agencies right before his inauguration. Their jobs give them access to loads of information that can be selectively leaked to reporters looking to take down a president with whom they disagree. And sadly, that’s what we’re seeing here. There is no doubt in my mind spies and a large portion of the press are colluding to destroy and take down Trump’s presidency.

  756. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m glad he did. This has all been very eye-opening.

  757. NYCmike says:


    Agree with Mr. Vito on the spy agency fight issue. It should have happened a LONG time ago.

  758. NYCmike says:

    ” Waingro says:
    March 2, 2017 at 12:33 pm

    Trump should hopefully see that he has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GAIN BY WORKING WITH DEMS”

    -Waingro, I have been looking for a true ally for a while. Thanks for joining me!

  759. Awesome says:

    Only Jeb coc&sucker said like Robbie are impressed by fake news.

  760. janz says:

    It may be that the leakers now have names.

    “Joseph diGenova, the former U. S. attorney for the District of Columbia under Reagan, told LifeZette that in private conversations with CIA officials they confirmed they have the names of alleged leakers and have given the names to the U.S. Department of Justice.

    The New York Times revealed in a report Wednesday that President Obama’s staffers left bread crumbs for anyone looking to undermine the Trump administration throughout the federal government. The revelation by The Times indicates how a steady drip of embarrassing leaks has tormented the new administration of President Donald Trump.”

    Perhaps that’s why it’s high time the dems now try to undermine and get rid of Sessions, if he has real names to pursue and prosecute.

  761. NYCmike says:

    Sessions will NOT be let go, and he will be relentless (unlike MD) in going after these SOB’s. He got railroaded back in the ’80’s, payback is a B*TCH!

    Author, Sessions ain’t going anywhere, except after law-breakers! Suck it!

  762. janz says:

    Like Jason posted earlier, the MSM is delighted to speculate about the cost and appropriateness of Melanie’s dress for Tuesday’s speech. However, as she is already a “client” of the designer, it is further speculated that she splurged on it with her own money.

  763. janz says:

    NYC, Sessions looks like a quaint, mild-mannered older man. But, there is a steeliness about him too, that suggests you may be right about his tenacity in going after bureaucratic creeps and the like.

  764. janz says:

    “Quaint and mild-mannered”…..I just described someone similar to Superman!

  765. Mr.Vito says:

    “Brussels (AFP) – Far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen was stripped of her European Parliament immunity Thursday after she tweeted images of Islamic State atrocities, paving the way for her prosecution by French authorities.”

    Let’s see if this backfires, too…

  766. NYCmike says:

    “paving the way for her prosecution by French authorities.””

    -What are the charges?

    Spreading knowledge of “actual events”?

  767. NYCmike says:

    -McCain and Graham have issues with Sessions.

    Ted Cruz calls it a “political circus”, or something like that.

    YET, the majority of those here would primary Cruz before the other two.

  768. NYCmike says:

    -Ron Johnson’s staff sent a “Cease and Desist” letter to constituents. On the same thread, people are going after “Little Marco Rubio” and Toomey, the “accidental Senator”.

    Author has gone full moon-bat.

    I didn’t see that happening. /s

    Reminder: He disliked a person strictly by his look when the guy walked thru the door. He stated he got a bad “feeling” about him from that look.

    Ironic, no?

  769. Barrett says:

    This is small potatoes, Sessions isn’t going anywhere.

    He talked to a Russian ambassador? Is that something Senators aren’t allowed to do? zzzzzzz…..

    All these attempts by Democrats to undermine their opposition is a simple demonstration that they can be just as petty and annoying as any other political faction.

    Slow news day

  770. Robbie says:

    I hope in 2020, Mick Mulvaney leaves OMB so he can challenge Lindsey Graham in the primary. Had he done so in 2014, he would have beaten Graham. The only reason Graham survived in the 2014 primary is the faced a gaggle of kooks. I have never been on record supporting a Senate primary challenge, but this will be the first time.

  771. Robbie says:

    I remember when Author first showed up in late 2011 or early 2012. He came thundering in out of nowhere lobbing his thunderbolts, but now he’s taken his ball and gone home because his preferred candidate didn’t get nominated.

    Author has gone the way of several prominent conservatives on Twitter like Jennifer Rubin, Rick Wilson, Liz Mair, David Frum, and a few others who claim their moral superiority won’t allow them to countenance Trump. It’s their choice, but they’re effectively rooting for Trump, and therefore the Republican party, to fail. Count me out on that.

    I chose not vote for Trump, but he won. And since the fate of the Republican Party is tied to him now, I want to see him succeed because there will come a time when Trump is gone and the Republican Party will still be here.

  772. Mr.Vito says:

    799 what about Haley?

  773. Barrett says:

    #787 – With the way Democrats behaved themselves during the presidential address, Trump should realize that he has nothing to gain and much to lose by working with Democrats.

    And to Robbie’s point – I didn’t vote for Trump either, and he won. He is my president, and I have accepted it. The only thing I would change in your statement is that the COUNTRY is tied to him now, and the country will still be here in four years, so we’d better hope he succeeds.

    All these crazy feminists who want to see their country go to sh!t because it would mean Trump was “wrong”, need to get their bloated heads checked.

  774. Mr.Vito says:

    800 Be careful… Corey will come back and say there is no war after he said for months he wanted a war.

  775. Mr.Vito says:

    Hostile media coverage of Trump is 88% of their coverage, down from 91% during the campaign! Honeymoon!

  776. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 2, 2017 at 4:05 pm
    799 what about Haley?

    – She doesn’t strike me as the type who would primary a sitting Senator.

  777. Barrett says:

    She would beat the hell out of him though.

  778. Robbie says:

    Thank goodness.

    Kimberly Railey?

    #wisen: Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke says he won’t run for Senate

  779. Wes says:

    Mike forgets McCain and Graham keep facing primaries from unelectable wingnuts. Maybe get competent primary challengers for them next time?

    By the way, I’m sure EVERY Senator other than Crus wants Cruz to lose a primary since Texas will elect a Republican Senator only.

  780. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 2, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    By the way, I’m sure EVERY Senator other than Crus wants Cruz to lose a primary since Texas will elect a Republican Senator only.

    – A primary challenge seems to be off the board, but there was talk of Mike McCaul last Fall.

  781. Phil says:

    Cruz will be reelected easily.

  782. PresidentPaul! says:

    George Bush discusses his fondness for Michelle Obama:

    I’m sure Michelle finds him just adorable as well, but at least fake News likes GWB as long as he is calling Trump a racist.

    I still remember the crowd chanting na na na hey hey hey goodbye as Bush got on his helicopter to head back to the cowboy ranch that he immediately sold after he was done with stage craft.

    He’s clearly long forgotten who his friends are and now hopes his enemies will like him.

  783. Cash Cow TM says:

    I didn’t get to see much of Walt today.

    He was up at 5 a.m., out the door at 6:12 a.m., home at 2:15 p.m., ran errands, returned and then worked on his meeting stuff until after 6 p.m.

    He is now preferring wine to milk.
    He keeps mumbling something about “one more week to go”.

  784. Cash Cow TM says:



  785. Wes says:

    I agree, Phil. I just wish the TXGOP would nominate someone not quite so sanctimonius as Cruz.

  786. PresidentPaul! says:

    Cruz is better than most of the GOP senators.

    Plus he’s good to have up on deck for presidential runs in case we don’t get a good candidate we can at least avoid Rubio-Kasich etc if Cruz were to win.

  787. NYCmike says:

    How is it that Cruz is sanctimonious?

    Would you rather have him speaking for the Republican Party, or Graham or McCain?

    He knows his sh*t, he knows the Democrats do NOT care one iota about anything other than their own power, he knows that people like Schumer, Obama, Pelosi are evil incarnate.

    What more do you want?

  788. NYCmike says:

    “I agree, Phil. I just wish the TXGOP would nominate someone not quite so sanctimonius as Cruz.”

    -Wes would rather have someone like Dewhurst, a person whose name explains perfectly what type of Senator he would have been, a squish.

  789. PresidentPaul! says:

    Islamic State takes issue with Khabib’s UFC stardom

    The Muslim Fighter’s Thorny Path to Stardom
    On November 24, 2015, a video purportedly released by the Islamic State featured highlights from Khabib Nurmagomedov’s fights in several clips. The video, titled ‘The Lone Wolf,’ called for a renewed focus on international terrorism. It also criticized Muslims like Khabib who fought for money and entertainment instead of defending Islam on the battlefield. It was an attempt to shame the fighter for his choice while simultaneously shunning him as a role model for Muslims. If Khabib could be shone to no longer be a legitimate role model for Dagestani youth, many of those who followed in his path might be pivoted towards fundamentalism.
    Khabib was a counter to jihadi recruitment in the region, and the Islamic State was well aware of it.
    “Khabib’s appeal to Muslims could have a very positive effect in the fight against radicalization, in that his success and popularity give him a platform to counter radical voices who say that Muslims are forbidden from fighting MMA (and should turn to jihad instead),” said Paraszczuk, who has focused a significant portion of her journalistic research on tracking Russian-speaking foreign soldiers in Syria.
    Following in the footsteps of his own father, who spent decades giving youth an alternative to insurgency through participation in sports, Khabib is aware that his success abroad is pivotal in inspiring Caucasus youth entrenched in Russia’s societal problems.

  790. Wes says:

    Actually, NYCCoward, I’d rather see Texas elect a Tom Coburn or a Chuck Grassley–an ideological conservative who works to get things done productively instead of self-gratifyingly showboating and mugging for the camera–than the GOP Chuck Schumer to the Senate.

  791. Wes says:

    That Bunu also likes Cruz automatically tells me the Lone Star State’s junior Senator is selling his state a bill of goods. No one Bunu embraces is a worthwhile pol.

  792. NYCmike says:

    If Cruz could be replaced by a Coburn-type, I would be all for it. Grassley, I admit, don’t know as much about him, although I have nothing against him.

    Personally, I doubt a Coburn or Grassley type would look to primary a Cruz. They would recognize his strengths, and try to help him, and enlist him as someone to help them, in their efforts.

  793. Tina says:

    The sessions issue is fake news.

    However, you had, once again, too many republicrats head to the hills. The goober, mcamnesty, chavetz the ugly, etc.

  794. Tina says:

    I am not sure that joe Digenova is accurate. His sources are always wrong.

  795. Tina says:

    Sessions is an honorable man doing his job. You cannot have mccarthy cabe like that on th mika scarfarce program.

    At least Ryan, who is not a leader, did not cave. I do mcamnesty and goober would cave because that is all they know. Appease the media.

  796. NYCmike says:

    “The goober, mcamnesty, chavetz the ugly, etc.”

    -The types that Wes The Courageous One (LOL) go for.

  797. PresidentPaul! says:

    Coburn was annoying.

    Bill Kristol wanted him to run before he came up with McMuffin as the nominee.

  798. Tina says:

    I am liking cruz more because he is not running tomthe media and caving. At least he fights. The war with russia types just want to agitate.

  799. NYCmike says:

    “I am liking cruz more because he is not running tomthe media and caving.”

    -Exactly. Cruz may have a grating style, but he isn’t a squish.

    Wes gets offended by people like Cruz, who know more than him, and let Wes know it.

  800. PresidentPaul! says:

    .@RandPaul outside the “secret office for the secret bill”
    giving a news conference.

    More proof that every bill they pass is a bad one regardless of party, timing, administration or goal.

  801. Tina says:

    I mean mccain and the jag goober really destroyed the middle east. Syria, libya, iraq. How much more damage to ththe cesspool?

  802. NYCmike says:

    -Rand Paul must be “sactimonious” for thinking that he should be able to read a bill that will come before Congress.

  803. PresidentPaul! says:

    Where’s the bill?

    Justin Amash?Verified account @justinamash
    Justin Amash Retweeted Senator Rand Paul
    It’s in a safe space.

  804. Cash Cow TM says:

    Who is running for president besides Oprah and Rosie O’Donnell?

    Seems there was a third TV fat woman person….

  805. Proud Obamacon says:


    Vice President Mike Pence “routinely used a private email account to conduct public business as governor of Indiana, at times discussing sensitive matters and homeland security issues,” the Indianapolis Star reports.

    “Emails released to IndyStar in response to a public records request show Pence communicated via his personal AOL account with top advisers on topics ranging from security gates at the governor’s residence to the state’s response to terror attacks across the globe. In one email, Pence’s top state homeland security adviser relayed an update from the FBI regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror-related charges.”—-and-hacked/98604904/


  806. PresidentPaul! says:


    Trump admin is worse than the Bush administration?

    That’s hard to believe…

  807. Waingro says:

    #800, wow well said, Robbie. Exactly my thoughts and where I stand.

  808. Proud Obamacon says:

    Believe it, BUBU!!!!

  809. PresidentPaul! says:

    So Trump who has done basically nothing warranting a grade of basically nothing is worse than Bush who invaded Iraq and spent over a decade there?

  810. Wes says:

    Yarbles, bolshy great yarblockos to thee and thine, NYCChickenhawk.

  811. Proud Obamacon says:

    Good points BUBU, Dubya and Pussy Grabber are in a close race for the worst administration evahhhh.

  812. Proud Obamacon says:

    But hey, Pence was so busy legislating vaginas tha the probably used his AOL account by mistake LOLLLL

  813. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Hey Obamaclown, weren’t the Democrats supposed to be winning seats in blue state legislatures since Trump won?

    Come on, you can’t pick up a seat in Connecticut. Time to retire Pelosi.

    And who was that old guy from Kentucky who gave the Democratic response to Trump’s State of the Union address? Though I saw Ma & Ma Kettle sitting in the audience behind him. I live in a urban California city, and the Kentuckians I have met are young and smart, and Republican.

  814. Tina says:

    Piglosi is not lookimg well. Let them continue to sit and not stand for the spouse of the deceasedilitary person that sacrificed his life. Party is disgusting.

  815. Tina says:

    Per the gp site,

    CNN’s Don Lemon Falsely Reports Loretta Lynch Recused Herself From The Hillary Email Investigation (VIDEO)

    Lemon knows this is false.

    Cnn is really fake news. That brand is nearly ruined.

  816. Tina says:

    It apoears that senator rand was not allowed into the room to read the new republicrat version of obumblercare.

    If true, it good.

  817. Tina says:

    Uh oh, feinstein had lunch with the russian ambassador the iother day and the russian ambassador sat with the drats during trumps speech on tuesday.

  818. Tina says:

    Brit Hume? @brithume

    The last time I was in the Senate dining room, Feinstein was having lunch with the Russsian amb. I never gave it a second thought.
    Byron York? @ByronYork
    On CNN, Sen. Dianne Feinstein describes meetings with Russian ambassador. ‘I believe he’s been in my office from time to time.’

    Lets bring this on. I want also to know goober and mcamnesty ties to the ambassador, if any.

  819. Tina says:

    Obaconartist, the use of private email by pence, governor at the time, is and was allowed under Indiana law. Nice try though.

  820. Tina says:

    Indiana law

    Public officials are allowed to use personal email accounts under Indiana law, though the paper notes that the law is “generally interpreted” to require public officials to save any business-related emails in order to follow open records laws.

  821. Tina says:

    Here is the photo of the russian ambassador sitting with the drats during tuesdays speech

  822. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently 5 Americans just found work.

    Ironically MD is getting what he asked for in his own backyard from the guy he wanted to lose.

  823. Mr.Vito says:

    Of courselves they all meet with the f*cking ambassador to a major nation… it’s such a joke.

  824. Mr.Vito says:

    If Marco hasn’t met with the ambassador, I want to know why the f*ck not…

  825. Mr.Vito says:

    The ambassador visited the White House under Obama at least 22 times.

    How many were after Obama discussed his election and the flexibility he would have after?

    Special prosecutor now!

  826. Tina says:

    President Trump, you need to fully let go of the obumbler holdovers.

  827. Tina says:

    This Russian situation is blowing up against the drats. Love it.

    Why did Frankenstein meet with the ambassador and have lunch? Why was he allowed to sit with the drats during trumps soeech to the nation?

  828. Tina says:

    Drats know there are no ties between russia and trump. As such, they have tarfeted the fbi and comey. Claims of not getting e information quickly, etc.

  829. DW says:

    Ambassadors from other countries staying here in America actually TALK to people here? Who knew?

  830. NYCmike says:

    You can’t TALK to people.

    You must Tweet people… Author does.

  831. NYCmike says: