EGO BOOST
GALLUP
AMERICAN RESEARCH GROUP
PUBLIC POLICY POLLING
QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY
RASMUSSEN REPORTS
POLLING SITES
HEDGEHOG REPORT SOCIAL NETWORK

Search

Open Thread Friday!

It’s finally snowing here in Maryland, so there’s that….

Posted by Dave at 8:58 am
Filed under: General | Comments (1,275)

1,275 Responses to “Open Thread Friday!”

  1. Tom says:

    First! (whatever)

  2. NYCmike says:

    Drop the Deuce! (whomever)

  3. Mr.Vito says:

    GFY (wherever)

  4. Mr.Vito says:

    Looks like the Democrats have spent a lot more time meeting with the Russian ambassador than POTUS.

  5. Mr.Vito says:

    Seems far more likely at this point that it is the Leftists working with Russia to destabilize our democracy.

  6. Tina says:

    Bernie sanders is out there wanting sessions to resign. Cccp sanders honeymooned in russia.

  7. Mr.Vito says:

    Intelligence: the Russians were trying to undermine our Democratic process

    DNC and MSM: what a great idea! How can we help?

  8. Phil says:

    So he deputy attorney general who would now be responsible for overseeing any investigation is an Obama appointee? LOL

    That ought to be an impartial investigation.

    When is her replacement up for a confirmation vote? I guess Schumer will now block confirmation vote of any Republican replacement and Collins and McCain will probably help him. Collins and McCain are now back on the DC cocktail and dinner party list.

  9. Sheeple Jr says:

    Phil
    I believe that Dana is a male.
    When is the next Congressional recess? the 1200 should be recessed appointed until confirmed.
    I hope your wife is doing better.

  10. Tina says:

    Yup mcamnesty and goober are such liars. They are bought off by the russians i bet.

  11. Tina says:

    There are now pics of schumah and pooty poot in ny cafe?

  12. Tina says:

    Michael McFaul, a drat campaign person for her thigness, met and tweeted about meeting the russian ambassador during the campaign.

  13. Tina says:

    Mcfaul also was on the hillary transition team and met the russians.

  14. Tom says:

    Wow! A coveted GFY on HHR. Thanks Mr. Vito.

  15. Cash Cow TM says:

    DAVE LIVES!

    Long Live HHR!

  16. Wes says:

    If Schumer wants to keep making an ass of himself with these confirmations, then McConnell should just declare the Senate to be in recess and let Trump recess appoint everyone during the recess.

  17. PresidentPaul! says:

    GOP considers excluding rich from healthcare tax credits: report
    People who pay taxes are excluded and people who don’t pay get free tax credits they never paid in in the first place.

  18. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand Paul on morning Joe about the secret Obamacare repeal

    Bill will be “take it or leave” bill like the gang of eight amnesty bill.

    This is a major scam Paul Ryan is running.

  19. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw- If the scam fails, then a clean repeal vote in the next step.

  20. PresidentPaul! says:

    ttp://theresurgent.com/obama-administration-officials-set-up-jeff-sessions-meeting-with-the-russian-ambassador

    Obama Administration Officials Set Up Jeff Sessions’ Meeting With the Russian Ambassador

  21. NYCmike says:

    Tom says:
    March 3, 2017 at 10:46 am

    Wow! A coveted GFY on HHR. Thanks Mr. Vito.

    -WTF, have you no decency, sir?!? He was speaking to me!

  22. Tina says:

    Piglosi phuqed up here.

    She admits that it is normal to meet with the russian ambassador

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-awkward-silence-pelosi-asked-shes-ever-met-russians/

  23. Tina says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4277332/Judge-accused-helping-illegal-immigrant-escape-court.html

    If true, the judge should be arrested. They have no right to violate the law.

  24. Tom says:

    22. NYCMike – Not giving it up. Go get your own GFY.

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Stop this petty bickering.

    NYC – GFY
    Tom – GFY

  26. Robbie says:

    Since it’s a slow day, I went back and looked at how Republicans have fared in Senate races in California since Pete Wilson first won in 1982. Other than his re-election win in 1988, races for Republicans at the Senate level have been a disaster in California (not to mention the presidential level).

    By my count, the highest vote percentage won by a Republican not named Pete Wilson since the 1980’s was Ed Zschau. He got 47.9% in his 1986 race against Alan Cranston. Since then, the highest percentage won by a Republican was Michael Huffington at just 44.8% in 1994. Bruce Herschensohn and Matt Fong each won 43% in their races in 1992 and 1998 races respectively.

    I’d like to think a turnaround in California is possible, but I sure don’t know what it would be. There are several high quality House members in the state, but none seem to be realistic statewide threats. In short, there just isn’t much of a bench and a Republican didn’t even qualify for the general election ballot in 2016.

    I’ve mentioned this before, but I wonder what the state of the Republican Party in California might be had George Deukmejian run for a third term in 1990 and Pete Wilson had remained in the Senate. Wilson almost certainly would have won re-election to the Senate in 1994 since it was a wave year. And while prop 187 won by a large margin, it might not have been as contentious with Deukmejian as governor.

    At this point, I would deem it a big success if Republicans could find someone who could get more than 45% of the vote, but, other than Pete Wilson, that hasn’t happened since 1986. And while Pete Wilson gets a lot of blame for the demise of the Republican Party in California, we shouldn’t forget he beat Jerry Brown in 1982 and then beat Dianne Feinstein in his 1990 governors race. He was a proven vote getter, but the Prop 187 fight really had long reaching effects.

  27. Bitterlaw says:

    Since it’s a slow day.

    Liar. It will be 24 hours. Just like yesterday.

  28. NYCmike says:

    Tom,

    You are one stubborn SOB!

    GFY!

  29. NYCmike says:

    ” Just like yesterday.”

    -Yesterday was March 1st. The first day of “March” is always at a quicker pace.

    So, GFY!

  30. NYCmike says:

    Dang! Yesterday was March 2nd!

    I’m a step behind already!

  31. NYCmike says:

    “Since it’s a slow day.”

    -Liar. Bitter was right!

    GFY!

  32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    27. Interesting information. With Senate races being non-partisan now in California, don’t think party registration will mean so much. An independent might have a better shot at a Senate seat than a Republican.

    Pete Wilson left California in sound fiscal shape, it was his Democratic successor who destroyed the state’s finances. The worthless Schwarzenegger then proceeding to destroy any changes Republicans would ever have in California. If Trump deported him, think there would be bipartisan support.

  33. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    33. Mean “chances” instead of “changes.” The joys of spell check.

  34. Tina says:

    And do not forget moonbeam

    25 billion to illegals

    700 million to infrastructure.

  35. Tina says:

    Trump tweeted schumah and the russians

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/03/drudge-powers-trump-counter-attack-on-russia.html

    That is how you fight back karl rove and the republicrats aka rinos.

  36. Tina says:

    From the daily beas t article

    The story on Drudge linked out to an article by Gateway Pundit, which has written several articles over the past 24 hours attempting to link Senate Democrats to Russia. A story published by Joe Hoft late Thursday night on Gateway Pundit titled “The Great Projectionists: Democrat Party Ties to Russia are Criminal” led the phrase “Democrat Party Ties to Russia” to trend on Twitter.
    Other notable right-wing and conspiracy accounts, like those belonging to InfoWars editors, helped push the trend to the top of Twitter, usually accompanied by memes about Schumer or Hillary Clinton.

    But its so true.

  37. Tina says:

    Drat party ties to Russia

    Twitter trending.

  38. PresidentPaul! says:

    Khabib fights tomorrow
    Khabib Nurmagomedov – Rise of a Savage

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Why didn’t DW warn us yesterday. I thought he was watching the sky for this kind of thing.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4279480/NASA-reveals-asteroid-passed-close-Earth-yesterday.html

  40. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile, Trump’s polling has gone up. Rasmussen is at 53/47% approval, and even Gallup has him at 43% approval, up from 38% not that long ago.

    If anything, the leftist press attacks on him have been counter productive, as they have caused his base to rally behind him.

  41. Robbie says:

    Egg McMuffin, aka Evan McMillan, said on CNN that Sessions lied and should resign.

    My response to Egg McMuffin is simple. Shut up and go away. Your 15 minutes are up.

  42. Robbie says:

    I’m not an expert on statistics, but Trump’s negative rating in Gallup has gone down recently. It may suggest his approval will inch higher next week assuming no major gaffe occurs.

  43. Tina says:

    Piglosi photographed with the ambassador. She said she never met him. Link at drudge.

    This is how republicans need to fight back.

  44. Tina says:

    Sdc, the russian attacks by the drats have backfired.

    A timely tweet about the vile Schumah and piglosi lying.

  45. Phil says:

    Tina,

    How do you feel about California secession? Seems like a good idea. The moonbats can have their utopian open borders socialist politically correct paradise. Conservatives like yourself can then move down here to Texas or some other state where you won’t ever have to live under moonbat rule any longer. Secession also means the other 49 states likely won’t ever have a leftist president since the 55 electoral Votes from California go bye bye.

    Everyone wins.

  46. Tina says:

    It woukd be a win win, phil. I have been thinking about moving for awhile.

  47. Phil says:

    You are absolutely welcome in our state, Tina. Assuming you stay clear of Austin you’ll find you will fit right in here. We would love to have you in Texas.

  48. messy says:

    fifty

  49. messy says:

    49. Austin is great! I’m going to SXSW on monday.

  50. Mr.Strait says:

    All my exes live there.

  51. Tina says:

    Thanks phil.

  52. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump
    I hereby demand a second investigation, after Schumer, of Pelosi for her close ties to Russia, and lying about it.

    Bravo.

  53. Cash Cow TM says:

    Texas hay and grasses are among the best!

    Yum, yum.

    (don’t fence me in.)

  54. lisab says:

    (don’t fence me in.)
    ——————————

    Take my love, take my land,
    Take me where I cannot stand.
    I don’t care, I’m still free,
    You can’t take the sky from me.

    Take me out to the black,
    Tell them I ain’t comin back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea,
    You can’t take the sky from me.

    There’s no place, I can be,
    Since I’ve found Serenity.

    And you can’t take the sky from me.

  55. Mr.Strait says:

    FOX: Schumer pulled visa strings for Indian athlete now accused of child se.x abuse

    “Saranac Lake Police Chief Charles Potthast told Fox News that the charges, one of first-degree se.xual abuse, a felony, and another of endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor, stem from Hussain “engaging in a passionate kiss” with a 12-year-old girl, and accusations of the athlete touching her over her clothing in an “intimate area.”

  56. Mr.Vito says:

    Thanks George… I’ll take it from here.

  57. NYCmike says:

    Let’s see: All it took was some mook from NYC named Donald J Trump to show the Republicans how to fight the media and Democrat hacks like Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton, etc.

    Sounds about right.

    If you can make it in NY, you can make it anywhere!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u1zK8AaHic

    Take it away, Ol’ Blue Eyes!

    Suck it, Walt! (just kidding with ya!)

  58. NYCmike says:

    Cheers, and MAKE THE WEEKEND GREAT AGAIN!

    (Don’t go to Disney World again!)

  59. Bitterlaw says:

    Politics and taxes would never make me move. I can take it.

  60. Walt says:

    IT IS A GREAT DAY TO BE A MOUNTAINEER,

    REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU MIGHT BE!

    WVU over Iowa State 87-76, get 2nd seed slot…

  61. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    47. “How do you feel about California secession? Seems like a good idea. The moonbats can have their utopian open borders socialist politically correct paradise.”

    Phil, there is a big backlash developing in California to the leftist nonsense, particularly after the floods. Have you noticed that Gov. Moonbeam has taken a low profile.

    If California were to attempt to break away, most of the northeast and Central Valley would stay in the U.s. In southern California, areas of Orange County and northern San Diego would stay as well, the Camp Pendleton Marine Base would support both areas.

    The people with the guns in California, both military and civilian, are patriotic Americans. Secession ain’t going to happen. Even the Tech industry in the Bay Area will stay loyal.

    Am feeling an underlying current in California that have not felt for years, the left is about to be paddled.

  62. jason says:

    Donald J Trump to show the Republicans how to fight the media and Democrat hacks like Schumer,”

    Was Schumer a hack while Trump was funding him for decades or is he just a hack now?

  63. jason says:

    Wake up you lazy bastards, it’s almost dawn in Amishland.

  64. jason says:

    Remember when Obama chastised Romney for being too hard on Russia? That was what, a little over 4 years ago.

    How soon the Dems forget.

  65. jason says:

    While you guys sleep I am having some bacon, scrapple with syrup, scrambled eggs with cheese, cornbread with butter, coffee and yes, a slice of apple pie. With that tucked away I can face the 20 degree weather outside.

  66. Sheeple Jr says:

    67 All of those carbs would place me back under the sheets!

    66 Agreed and remember the words “More Flexible After The Election”

    64 Chuckles has always been a hack. The Donald was and is an amoral businessman.

    63 If CA seceded from the Union, I would go to the CA/NV border and wave goodbye. I agree that the area around San Diego must stay with the Union for military and port purposes.

  67. NYCmike says:

    “Was Schumer a hack while Trump was funding him for decades or is he just a hack now?”

    -You clearly know how that question can be answered, IF, in the past year, you had the ability to read and comprehend simple sentences.

    -or-

    IF you have the ability to look back at the archives and find what I wrote many times about the relationship between Schumer and Trump, usually spurred on by a ridiculous statement by yourself, or “scooterboy”.

  68. NYCmike says:

    Cheers!

  69. Walt says:

    Today’s “Word Of the Day” is “balderdash”.

    The word balderdash
    A. Has to do with unusual hair loss
    B. Was an off shoot of a medical condition suffered by
    Irish who built the railroads when they pushed big rocks
    and got a skin condition called boulder rash
    C. Corruption of the words “bladder dash” when you suddenly have to run fast to get to rhe bathroom to pee.
    D. Another word similar to bunkum, preposterous, horsefeathers, etc.

  70. Trump says:

    Trump is a republican when he wants to be, he was a dem when he wanted to be.

    Why is there a debate about it?

    What he most certainly is not is a fool like the la raza pimp.

  71. Bitterlaw says:

    I am utterly opposed to the idea that California can or should secede. It was illegal and unconstitutional in 1860 and remains so today. The US is supposed to just let a major source of food just leave. We’re supposed to let our ports and military bases on the West coast leave? Ridiculous.

    Before anybody says, “Are you going to go to war to prevent it, Bitter?” I have 2 answers. First, the Californians have no interest in fighting. Second, if they did, I would fight. I just need a steady supply of insulin and soda. I also need a weapon. Maybe Jason could lend me one.

  72. PresidentPaul! says:

    fake news is now “gas lighting” Trump
    Trump Did Not Hint at the ‘Comprehensive Reform’ That Sank Rubio

    There was a short-lived frenzy on Tuesday as Trump comments to news anchors indicated that he might be open to an amnesty for some unauthorized immigrants. Liberal journalists and anti-Trump Republican consultants were going crazy with the thought that Trump might agree to the compromise that sunk Marco Rubio. It was disgusting to watch them whine and moan about how compromise had been rejected but now Trump was coming around. The truth is that Rubio’s Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform was no compromise, and many of the elites in both parties are so caught up in culture of lies that they spun themselves right into Trump’s presidency.

  73. PresidentPaul! says:

    “NumbersUSA?
    @NumbersUSA

    The Visa Lottery meets no discernible need of the American people. The RAISE Act would eliminate it. http://ow.ly/kvvk309yJai

  74. Sheeple Jr says:

    We are now at DEF CON 4. If true and unjustified, then Obama and others need to be arrested!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Start from the bottom tweet) How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
    24,040 replies 14,297 retweets 37,656 likes
    Reply 24K Retweet 14K
    Like 38K
    Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    More
    I’d bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
    10,727 replies 11,565 retweets 34,061 likes
    Reply 11K Retweet 12K
    Like 34K
    Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Is it legal for a sitting President to be “wire tapping” a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
    7,978 replies 10,960 retweets 31,326 likes
    Reply 8.0K Retweet 11K
    Like 31K
    Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Just out: The same Russian Ambassador that met Jeff Sessions visited the Obama White House 22 times, and 4 times last year alone.
    7,428 replies 11,251 retweets 31,606 likes
    Reply 7.4K Retweet 11K
    Like 32K
    Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
    11,473 replies 16,216 retweets 36,885 likes
    Reply 11K Retweet 16K
    Like 37K
    Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    More
    The first meeting Jeff Sessions had with the Russian Amb was set up by the Obama Administration under education program for 100 Ambs……
    4,174 replies 8,604 retweets 26,966 likes
    Reply 4.2K

  75. Sheeple Jr says:

    #76
    He spoils his focus, by then tweeting about Arnold and Celebrity Apprentice—BAD FORM!

  76. PresidentPaul! says:

    (((Mark Krikorian)))? @MarkSKrikorian 15h15 hours ago
    More
    if the Trump administration is going to let DACA continue, shouldn’t it at least stop subsidizing applications?

  77. Trump says:

    California, or any other state, is not going anywhere.

    I have a hazy memory of similar efforts in the past by some other states.

    California is stuck in Hotel California. Get it?

  78. Walt says:

    Oh, forgot to say that you are all to try to use the
    “balderdash” 5 times today in your speaking or writing.

  79. Mr.Vito says:

    Every time I make a speculation lately, Rush and then Trump follow up on it…

    The socks see all and know all.

  80. PresidentPaul! says:

    The left is rejecting Rachel Dolezal’s gender and ethnic identity

    News of Dolezal’s precarious living conditions and new name — Nkechi is the Igbo word for “gift of God,” with roots in Nigeria, and Diallo means “bold” in Fulani, a word that can be traced to both Guinea and Senegal — comes, not surprisingly, just weeks before her new memoir, In Full Color, heads to bookstores.
    For her part, Diallo is doubling down on her insistence that she is “transracial” — a woman who is the product of two white parents but identifies mentally, emotionally, physically and culturally as black. “I feel that I was born with the essential essence of who I am, whether it matches my anatomy and complexion or not,” Dolezal told The Guardian earlier this week. “I’ve never questioned being a girl or woman, for example, but whiteness has always felt foreign to me, for as long as I can remember. I didn’t choose to feel this way or be this way, I just am. What other choice is there than to be exactly who we are?”

  81. PresidentPaul! says:

    Stop the Ryan plan.

    No plan and accomplishing nothing is always better than a Paul Ryan idea.
    WashTimes: Sen. Rand Paul: Been told to ‘take it or leave it’ on Obamacare strategy
    Kentuckian says ‘Conservatives are inclined to leave it’

  82. Robbie says:

    Looks like Trump woke up in a grumpy mood today. Sad. He had two really good weeks in a row, but he reverted to form this morning with his tweet storm about Obama and wire tapping.

    The genesis of the tweet storm seems to be Mark Levin’s Thursday radio show where he claimed Obama was attempting a coup. That, in turn, prompted a story from Breitbart which Trump read and then tweeted to his followers.

    Whatever you think of Trump’s tweet storm, consider this. Right now, the public seems pretty unimpressed with the Russia stories. Yet, Trump has done plenty to draw attention to these stories by tweeting about them. He’s giving the stories oxygen they otherwise wouldn’t have.

  83. PresidentPaul! says:

    NSA and CIA should have been abolished on day #1. Trump running as a pro-Deep candidate always ends in problems.

  84. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Could you possibly take a moment, and let the stories circulate, and/or sink in, first?

    Both the media and Trump are trying to “set the narrative”, as well as plan long-term opinions on their opponent, in this case, each other.

    While I don’t necessarily think Trump on Twitter is “Presidential”, the simple fact is we are in a VERY different time, where the best defense is a constant offensive. Trump has mentioned Patton before, I believe he likes that approach favored by Patton. Last Tuesday, we saw Trump back off that approach for the SOTU, so he clearly is making rational choices when he acts.

  85. jason says:

    Trump is a republican when he wants to be, he was a dem when he wanted to be.

    Why is there a debate about it?”

    That was MY point, now soccer moron is trying to steal it.

    You can debate NYC on it though. While the 2 morons go at it, I will dig into lunch.

    Pork chops, sauerkraut, mashed potatoes, salad and cherry cobbler. Light lunch today because breakfast was pretty substantial.

  86. jason says:

    NSA and CIA should have been abolished on day #1?

    And the DOD and the standing Army and Homeland Security too right?

    Bunu is frisky today since the got a B + in Arabic over at the ISIS Takeover Preparation Center.

  87. Robbie says:

    By the way, there were stories at the end of 2016 that suggested the FBI sought FISA warrants for Trump Tower. This is not new news, but it is for Trump since the stories hadn’t appeared in Breitbart until today.

    Call me crazy, but I’d prefer the president not get his news from Breitbart.

  88. jason says:

    Trump Did Not Hint at the ‘Comprehensive Reform’ That Sank Rubio”

    Maybe he should stop hinting and make it perfectly clear like Rand Paul did: “If you want to work and live in America we will find a place for your” and “Imagine 12 million new taxpayers coming out of the shadows”.

  89. jason says:

    Call me crazy, but I’d prefer the president not get his news from Breitbart.”

    I prefer posters not get their news from DKos but it’s a free country.

  90. Mr.Vito says:

    “The genesis of the tweet storm seems to be Mark Levin’s Thursday radio show…”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443768/obama-fisa-trump-wiretap

    This was written January 11th.

  91. jason says:

    California doesn’t have to secede. We can just trade it with Canada for Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and the Yukon.

  92. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie already backtracking but sticking with his original assumptions…

  93. jason says:

    Anyone who gets any information from Mark Levin is a moron.

    Oh wait…

  94. jason says:

    Wobbie regurgitates MSM garbage as if it was the Gospel.

    It’s pathetic but he has been doing it for years.

  95. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Call me crazy, but I’d prefer the president not get his news from Breitbart.””

    Better than Fake News, which includes Fox News

  96. Mr.Vito says:

    “A FISA application in which Trump was “named” was rejected by the FISA court as overbroad, notwithstanding that the FISA court usually looks kindly on government surveillance requests. A second, more narrow application, apparently not naming Trump, may have been granted five months later; the best the media can say about it, however, is that the server on which the application centers is “possibly” related to the Trump campaign’s “alleged” links to two Russian banks — under circumstances in which the FBI has previously found no “nefarious purpose” in some (undescribed) connection between Trump Tower and at least one Russian bank (whose connection to Putin’s regime is not described).”

  97. jason says:

    Mr. Vito, Wobbie doesn’t read alt-right sites like National Review.

    He prefers unbiased objective journalism like NYT, Huffington Post, Political Wire, DKos and TPM.

  98. Robbie says:

    Trump’s been on constant offense since about two weeks before the inauguration. It has resulted in an average approval rating of 44% or so. I’d hardly call that a success since we’re in what has usually been a honeymoon period for new presidents. It has also resulted in a series of self inflicted wounds.

    Trump’s temperament was the main obstacle voters cited throughout the campaign in both polling and focus groups. His constant offense has produced the “so-called judge” tweet, the comparison of American spy agencies to Nazi tactics, and a few other unpresidential moments.

    As for Patton, his “constant offense” approach and intemperate attitude resulted in him losing 7th Army in Sicily, being denied any command during the Normandy invasion, and his ultimate firing from 3rd Army after comparing Nazi Party membership to Republican and Democrat membership in the US.

  99. PresidentPaul! says:

    Pelosi gets nostalgic because GWB while he trashes president Trump as a racist president.

    The wide-ranging interview covered many topics including Pelosi’s resistance to many of President Trump’s policy proposals and actions since he has taken office, although she declared he has “done nothing” since being sworn in. Pelosi could hardly hide her disdain for the new commander-in-chief as he addressed Congress earlier this week.
    The House minority leader has been very vocal in her calls for the resignation of Attorney General Sessions for his contact with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. during the election campaign. At a press conference Thursday, Pelosi was adamant that Sessions’ meeting with the envoy was a “day and night” difference from his predecessor, former Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton.

  100. PresidentPaul! says:

    Jason if W. Bush was a conservative, why does Pelosi like him so much?

  101. jason says:

    Charles Krauthammer said there is no question that former President Barack Obama left behind “land mines” to stymie the incoming Donald Trump administration”

    Wobbie to call Krauthammer a right wing fanatic in 3, 2, 1….

  102. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    Robert Costa?
    @costareports 3h

    Per an official, I’ve confirmed that several people at the White House have been circulating this Breitbart story.

  103. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 4, 2017 at 11:04 am
    Charles Krauthammer said there is no question that former President Barack Obama left behind “land mines” to stymie the incoming Donald Trump administration”
    Wobbie to call Krauthammer a right wing fanatic in 3, 2, 1….

    – I completely believe Obama left behind landmines to undermine the Trump presidency. That doesn’t mean Trump needs to step on all of them.

  104. PresidentPaul! says:

    GWB didn’t vote for the GOP candidate and trashes the administration now.

    President GWB who prides himself on staying above the fray and silent on new administrations: ‘I Don’t Like the Racism’

    “I don’t like the racism and I don’t like the name-calling and I don’t like the people feeling alienated,” Bush said Monday in an interview published in People magazine. The 43rd president told the outlet that the political climate after Trump’s election had become “pretty ugly”…

  105. Robbie says:

    If Trump is going to level such a major charge on Twitter, best not follow it up with a Tweet slamming Arnold for leaving the Apprentice.

  106. Phil says:

    With regard to California the fact that California won’t secede is too bad but no doubt true. I would love to see it take its 55 electoral votes and get the hell out. Hotel California? it gets more leftist by the year. Becoming an open border third world Marxist one party dictatorship. Try Hotel Moonbat and it’s not ever coming back to sanity. When Republicans lose Orange and San Diego Counties by double digits California is G O N E …….forever.

    The Venezuela of North America. Get out of there, San Diego. Sadly, reasonable conservatives like yourself have no say at all in what government does in that state…and the government is nuts. You and people like you are useful to the moonbats only in that they need you to pay their confiscatory taxes to pay for their open border welfare state.

  107. jason says:

    Jason if W. Bush was a conservative, why does Pelosi like him so much?”

    Huh, if you weren’t a moron, you would know Pelosi tried to stymie GWB for years and did everything to oppose him and attacked pretty much on a daily basis.

    “You know, God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States, a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject,” Pelosi replied. She then tsk-tsked Bush for “challenging Congress when we are trying to sweep up after his mess over and over and over again.”

  108. Robbie says:

    This tweet followed Trump’s claims about wiretapping.

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump

    Arnold Schwarzenegger isn’t voluntarily leaving the Apprentice, he was fired by his bad (pathetic) ratings, not by me. Sad end to great show

  109. PresidentPaul! says:

    GWB goes on the Ellen Degeneres doing a dance for her. “I love your whole family.” Ellen to George W. Bush.

    Jason-Pelosi likes GWB now that he’s calling Trump a racist and refused to support or vote for Trump.

    That was the point.

  110. jason says:

    Trump’s been on constant offense since about two weeks before the inauguration”

    And rightly so, considering that the MSM has declared war on him.

    Wobbie thinks if Trump is nice to the MSM they will be nice to him.

    There is no cure for that kind of stupidity.

  111. jason says:

    now that he’s calling Trump a racist”

    Zzzzzzz.. he didn’t call Trump a racist.

    And BTW, Rand Paul is doing more to undermine Trump’s Presidency than anything GWB can say or do.

    Now GFY.

  112. PresidentPaul! says:

    GWB spent 8 years undermining the entire country. Now he just continues with Trump.

    Rand is fighting for the conservative agenda and stopping Paul Ryan.

  113. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – I never understand people telling others to move. If SDC has a life that he likes despite the political climate, he should never move out of California. I am happy with where I live. I am never taking another bar exam. I like the weather. Why would I move because of my taxes or crazy governor?

  114. Phil says:

    Jason just nailed it. Had this conversation with friends over breakfast. The idea that if A Republican president just rolls into a fetal position and agrees to take it that the Democrats and their media lapdogs will somehow just go easier on him is completely without foundation. President Bush disproved that theory. They destroyed his second term and he just laid back and let them.

  115. Robbie says:

    Jason

    Constant offense has produced a string of self inflicted errors by Trump on Twitter because he just tweets whatever pops into his mind.

    I’m all in favor of a coordinated, constant pushback on the press. We’re not seeing anything close to coordination though.

    As Robert Costa’s feed this morning suggests, no one on Trump’s staff expected anything like what happened this morning. Bannon and Priebus weren’t even in Florida with Trump.

  116. Phil says:

    You are right, bitter. It is a personal decision.

  117. Robbie says:

    Phil

    If Trump is going to act as his own communications director and continue to shoot from the hip, then the what we’ve seen will continue.

    Don’t confuse the need to hit back in an effective and coordinated way with just throwing counterpunches.

  118. Phil says:

    Agree there needs to be substance behind the counter punching. That said, Obama is running a shadow government the likes of we have never seen before.

  119. Mr.Vito says:

    “Robert Costa?
    @costareports 3h

    Per an official, I’ve confirmed that several people at the White House have been circulating this Breitbart story.”

    ………………..

    wow… and?

  120. Mr.Vito says:

    Robert Costa and some official really want you to know the White House read the Breitbart article.

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – How is your wife doing? How are you doing?

  122. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    I wrote that the genesis of Trump’s tweet storm seemed to be a Breitbart story on Levin’s comments. You posted a story earlier in the year from National Review. I was pointing out that Costa’s reporting suggests Trump got his starting point with Breitbart.

  123. Bitterlaw says:

    I heard Obama has the launch codes and that Alec Baldwin is going to use them. Sir Carmine told me.

  124. PresidentPaul! says:

    Flashback: Obama Promises “No More Illegal Wiretapping of American Citizens” (VIDEO)
    Why is this only important when it’s Trump being wiretapped and why should he get more rights than an average citizen?

    Why is Trump complaining about being wiretapped?

  125. Mr.Vito says:

    125 Who cares where he got it from? why is Robert Costa not reporting the story is older than Breitbart?

  126. Mr.Vito says:

    “125 Who cares where he got it from? why is Robert Costa not reporting the story is older than Breitbart?”

    We all know why, by the way… he is trying to stigmatize it.

  127. PresidentPaul! says:

    Josh Brolin, one of my favorite actors, who destroyed GB in the 2008 movie “W” supports Donald Trump.

    I read that you are a fan of Donald Trump, is that true? If so what do you find appealing about him?
    JB: Oh not much right now. But what I did find appealing was his vision in the beginning, going out on his own; away from what his father did which was build brick apartment buildings in Brooklyn. As a visionary and somebody who is as persistent as he was I found that very inspiring. So when I met him during ‘Wall Street 2’, I probably knew more about him than he knew about himself. I was very intrigued with him from a business point of view. Even in his bankruptcy.
    He told me this story when he was $3 billion dollars in debt. It was raining outside and he had to go to his lawyers office, which was ten blocks away and he couldn’t get a cab because it was raining in Manhattan, so he decided to walk. Along that walk he saw a homeless guy who had his hat out and he had a dollar in the hat and he said that in that moment he realised that guy was $2,999,999,999 richer than he was. I thought that was a great story. But that being said I can like the businessman – because I am not a guy who says ‘Pete, because you are a Republican you are a piece of s**t’ – [but] when you get in to politics there is just a different side to his personality that I don’t find attractive.

  128. Robbie says:

    Breitbart deserves to be stigmatized. It’s garbage.

  129. Mr.Vito says:

    Sidestepped the point, I see.

  130. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie breitbart isn’t fake news like CNN and Fox though.

  131. Mr.Vito says:

    Looks like Trump’s Apprentice tweet was in response to Arnold claiming when he resigned that the show was suffering because of Trump’s “baggage”.

  132. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie is concerned about Breitbart and the Apprentice.

    A president possibly wiretapping his political foe during an election… not so much.

  133. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 12:33 pm
    Robbie is concerned about Breitbart and the Apprentice.
    A president possibly wiretapping his political foe during an election… not so much.

    -Wrong. I am concerned we have a president who so casually levels such major charges in a tweet storm based on little more than a story from Breitbart. Even his own staff had no idea this was coming. And then after leveling explosive charges about his predecessor, Trump tweets about Arnold’s ratings on the Apprentice. That’s bi-polar. This is a man who tweets whatever pops into his head. There is no strategy and it is hurting him.

    If Trump believes he has been wiretapped, he should call Sessions and Comey to find out if a FISA warrant has been issued. And then after a thorough evaluation of the evidence, he can report to the country in a serious and sober manner (from the Oval Office maybe) that it occurred. Instead, Trump read an article on Breitbart and decided to launch a tweet storm without any consultation from his government agency heads.

    Trump’s presidential Twitter behavior is an embarrassment. His actions continue to distract from what his supposed goals as president are, Obamacare repeal and tax reform. Trump is not counterpunching. He’s just flailing. If he’s not careful, his actions are going to make Nancy Pelosi Speaker and that will get his butt impeached in January 2019.

    Trump deserves to be defended from the efforts of the press to delegitimize his presidency, but his erratic behavior, especially on Twitter, does not.

  134. Mr.Vito says:

    “Wrong. I am concerned we have a president who so casually levels such major charges in a tweet storm based on little more than a story from Breitbart.”

    As I said… concerned about Breitbart… not the story.

    Nowhere in your rant did you explain why you think it is okay for Obama to seek wiretaps against his political rival during an election campaign, which is the National Review story.

    “Even his own staff had no idea this was coming.”

    The story was being circulated at the White House says Robbie… but his staff didn’t know this was coming. Good one.

  135. Robbie says:

    Pete Williams, chief legal analyst for NBS, was the spokesman for the Pentagon when Dick Cheney was Defense Secretary. His reporting suggests the obvious. Trump didn’t consult anyone in government before tweeting his claims.

    I guess the effort to discredit Pete Williams will now commence.

    Bradd Jaffy?
    @BraddJaffy 26m
    26 minutes ago

    Bradd Jaffy
    1/ Per @PeteWilliamsNBC, a senior U.S. official in a position to know says he and others have no idea what Trump is talking about here

    Bradd Jaffy?
    @BraddJaffy 22m
    22 minutes ago

    Bradd Jaffy
    2/ Per @PeteWilliamsNBC, Sr. US official says Trump apparently didn’t consult w/ people inside gov’t who might know—before making this claim

  136. Mr.Vito says:

    Since Robbie says he knew that these stories had been out there, perhaps he can explain why he didn’t decry this before Levin did?

    Instead he is worried about twitter and KT McFarland…

  137. Mr.Vito says:

    Still sidestepping the issue, I see.

  138. Mr.Vito says:

    “Instead he is worried about twitter and KT McFarland…”

    and the credibility of MSM reporters that no one attacked…

    is National Review credible?

  139. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    “Even his own staff had no idea this was coming.”
    The story was being circulated at the White House says Robbie… but his staff didn’t know this was coming. Good one.

    – Yes, the White House staff had no idea Trump would randomly tweet about something like this. Just because people pass around doesn’t mean the president should tweet about it. It’s called self control, but Trump seems to have little of that.

    Your defense of this Trump action is disappointing. There are plenty of reasons to defend and support Trump, but his erratic behavior, especially on Twitter, is not one of them. There’s ZERO indication he consulted anyone who would actually know whether there was wiretapping, yet he launch an unsubstantiated attack anyway.

    He’s no longer Donald Trump, host of the Apprentice, battling the NYC tabloids. He’s the president and ought to start acting like it 100% of the time.

  140. Trump says:

    If Trump listened to a retarded monkey like Robbie, he would end up like Jeb.

  141. Trump says:

    Fu ck off, as shole.

  142. Mr.Vito says:

    “Your defense of this Trump action is disappointing.”

    Still sidestepping the issue… amazing you want to invent things that didn’t occur to argue against.

    Explain why it is okay for Obama to seek wiretaps for Trump Tower during the election…

    This is try number four or five. Let’s see what squirrel you try to chase this time.

  143. Trump says:

    As I have made repeatedly clear, Trump is not your president.

  144. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    Since Robbie says he knew that these stories had been out there, perhaps he can explain why he didn’t decry this before Levin did?
    Instead he is worried about twitter and KT McFarland…

    – Talk about deflecting. KT McFarland?

    I have no idea why Trump didn’t mention this story when National review wrote about it. My guess is he never saw it since he said he doesn’t read NR due to their “Against Trump” edition in January 2016. He does read Breitbart though and his chief advisor ran Breitbart for four years until he joined the campaign last August.

  145. Mr.Vito says:

    The idea no one thought Trump might tweet something he was circulating around, given his history, is not only patently absurd… but irrelevant to the issue.

    Try again.

  146. Mr.Vito says:

    “Talk about deflecting. KT McFarland?”

    LOL! Now he’s deflecting to pointing out his deflections!

  147. Mr.Vito says:

    “I have no idea why Trump didn’t mention this story when National review wrote about it. My guess is he never saw it since he said he doesn’t read NR due to their “Against Trump” edition in January 2016. He does read Breitbart though and his chief advisor ran Breitbart for four years until he joined the campaign last August.”

    Still haven’t answered the question…

    Keep trying…

  148. Mr.Vito says:

    Well, he’s had multiple chances now.

    My statement: “Robbie is concerned about Breitbart and the Apprentice. A president possibly wiretapping his political foe during an election… not so much.”

    is now rated as true…

  149. Mr.Vito says:

    I’ll check back later if he finishes chasing his tail.

  150. Trump says:

    The Robbie cra@ weasel has no Idea what Trump reads or does not read, yet the retard persists.

    Trump does not answer to you, retard monkey.

  151. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 1:18 pm
    “Your defense of this Trump action is disappointing.”
    Still sidestepping the issue… amazing you want to invent things that didn’t occur to argue against.
    Explain why it is okay for Obama to seek wiretaps for Trump Tower during the election…
    This is try number four or five. Let’s see what squirrel you try to chase this time.

    – What seems to be lost in this discussion is Obama can’t wiretap an American citizen on his own. Any request to do so must be approved by the FISA court. So if Trump was wiretapped, what evidence led the court to approve the wiretap?

    None of that alleviates Trump from first seeking to confirm the story with his DOJ and FBI before he tweets something. If it turns out there was no wiretapping, then he has committed a massive and unforced mistake.

    If Trump wants to read Breitbart, great. If he wants to watch porn online, great. He shouldn’t tweet about what he’s read in Breitbart or any other publication until his staff has had a chance to confirm or deny the stories credibility.

  152. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 1:20 pm
    The idea no one thought Trump might tweet something he was circulating around, given his history, is not only patently absurd… but irrelevant to the issue.
    Try again.

    – And herein lies the problem. We have a president who seems to lack impulse control.

  153. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 1:23 pm
    Well, he’s had multiple chances now.
    My statement: “Robbie is concerned about Breitbart and the Apprentice. A president possibly wiretapping his political foe during an election… not so much.”
    is now rated as true…

    – If Trump was illegally wiretapped, that would be a massive crime worthy or Watergate style fallout. I highly doubt Obama oked a secret and illegal plan to wiretap Trump though. But if he did, he should go to jail.

    That said, Obama just can’t wiretap someone. The FISA court must approve any wiretap of an American citizen. So if they did, what was the evidence that led the court to ok it?

  154. Mr.Vito says:

    “What seems to be lost in this discussion is Obama can’t wiretap an American citizen on his own. Any request to do so must be approved by the FISA court. So if Trump was wiretapped, what evidence led the court to approve the wiretap?”

    You’re getting there… did you read 99?

    It was denied… they went back later without Trump’s name. It may have been approved. If it wasn’t, do you think they would have stopped shopping around?

    You are dangerously naive if so. Again, what purpose did Obama have in seeking wiretaps against his political foe without evidence?

    Keep working on it…

  155. Mr.Vito says:

    Find out how they wiretapped Flynn without a warrant, while you are at it.

  156. Mr.Vito says:

    “Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said he had no knowledge about any wiretapping but is “very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegally. I WOULD (ALSO) BE VERY WORRIED IF IN FACT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN A WARRANT LAWFULLY ABOUT TRUMP CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY.”

    Even “LAWFULLY”. Lindsey Graham can apparently see what Robbie cannot.

  157. Robbie says:

    It was a crime to leak the contents of Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador, but Flynn wasn’t the target of the wiretap, though. The Russian ambassador was.

  158. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    “Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said he had no knowledge about any wiretapping but is “very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegally. I WOULD (ALSO) BE VERY WORRIED IF IN FACT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN A WARRANT LAWFULLY ABOUT TRUMP CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY.”
    Even “LAWFULLY”. Lindsey Graham can apparently see what Robbie cannot.

    – I watched Graham’s comments. When Graham spoke of LAWFULLY gaining a wiretap of Trump, he said he was worried about the information the government had that would cause the court to approve a wiretap. It was a knock on Trump, not a defense of him.

  159. Mr.Vito says:

    You are getting there… He is an American citizen and no crime was committed… who do you think they wanted on the phone with the ambassador? The pizza guy? Can’t get a wiretap on Flynn, get it on someone you can.

    Now think harder about the question… the administration was seeking wiretaps on Trump Tower. Do you think they rolled over because they didn’t have any evidence warranting it?

  160. Mr.Vito says:

    “When Graham spoke of LAWFULLY gaining a wiretap of Trump, he said he was worried about the information the government had that would cause the court to approve a wiretap. It was a knock on Trump, not a defense of him.”

    LOL. So Graham is still an idiot. You don’t have to be.

  161. Mr.Vito says:

    “Neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false,” Obama spokesman Kevin Lewis said in a statement.

    Lewis also said that “a cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice.”

    LOL! Look how carefully this is worded!

  162. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    They didn’t put the Russian ambassador under surveillance so they could listen in on Flynn. They wiretapped the Russian ambassador precisely because he’s the Russian ambassador. His phone has been wiretapped from the moment he entered the US.

    And when there’s a new Russian ambassador, they’ll wiretap him along with every other person in that embassy. In fact, every ambassador in the US is under wiretap just as ours are all over the world.

  163. Mr.Vito says:

    Read between the lines… the Department of Justice ordered surveillance. We already know it per National Review. They are saying they didn’t do it by order from Obama or with any interference from Obama.

  164. Mr.Vito says:

    “They are saying they didn’t do it by order from Obama or with any interference from Obama.”

    And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

  165. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe they just sent Clinton in to meet on the tarmac… pfft.

  166. Mr.Vito says:

    “They wiretapped the Russian ambassador precisely because…”

    I’m not talking about monitoring communications of a Russian ambassador. I am talking about a call with a citizen that was illegally released… if you want to put “wiretapping” in quotes so be it.

  167. Robbie says:

    The fact is, that with a series of early morning tweets, Trump has created an issue for himself no one was discussing or contemplating. Instead of focusing Obamacare, his strong address to Congress, or the upcoming confirmation of Neil Gorsuch, the press is now discussing/investigating whether Trump and his campaign were under wiretap during the presidential campaign.

  168. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 2:08 pm
    “They wiretapped the Russian ambassador precisely because…”
    I’m not talking about monitoring communications of a Russian ambassador. I am talking about a call with a citizen that was illegally released… if you want to put “wiretapping” in quotes so be it.

    – As I said, the leaking of that conversation was illegal.

  169. Mr.Vito says:

    That leaking occurred because Obama then broadened the sharing capabilities of the NSA with private citizens in the intelligence communication…

    agree or disagree?

  170. Mr.Vito says:

    By the way, I have neither read Breitbart nor listened to Levin… what part of what they said is in dispute?

  171. Robbie says:

    According to Maggie Habermann of the NYT, Trump does not surf the web. He only reads hard copies of stories given to him. So the question is who in the Whitehouse wanted Trump to see this story and made sure he had a copy to read? Bannon? Maybe, but Trump’s former caddy and now White House social media director, Dan Scavino, just retweeted the Breitbart story.

    Brian Stelter?
    @brianstelter 42m
    42 minutes ago

    This Breitbart story “circulated” in the West Wing and “infuriated” Trump, a W.H. official tells @jeffzeleny

  172. blobbie says:

    “I am concerned we have a president who so casually levels such major charges in a tweet storm based on little more than a story from Breitbart.”
    —————————————

    why can’t we go back to president obama who casually complained the police acted stupidly?

  173. NYCmike says:

    “Call me crazy, but I’d prefer the president not get his news from Breitbart.”

    -The NY Times would be better?

    Kind of like FDR during the 30’s?

    6 million Jews would not agree.

  174. blobbie says:

    an unnamed and probably ficticious senior U.S. official, in a position to know, who will go to prison for ten years if he knew about wiretapping the republican prison for president, says he and others have no idea what Trump is talking about here

    ftfy

  175. Mr.Vito says:

    174 But no one knew he would tweet about it. LOL.

  176. Robbie says:

    We’ll see how much of the Breitbart story holds up, but Pete Williams reports those in the DOJ who would know about what Trump tweeted have said they’re not sure what he’s discussing.

  177. NYCmike says:

    “And BTW, Rand Paul is doing more to undermine Trump’s Presidency than anything GWB can say or do.”

    -Rand Paul has done NOTHING to undermine Trump. He is a United States Senator from Kentucky, duly elected and serving his constituents. Obamacare is an albatross that should be dumped overboard. I am sure the people of Kentucky are glad Rand is trying to get some sunlight shown on an overhaul of that law. I know I am.

    As for Bush, he stayed silent for 8 years. Let him go and sell his book, and keep quiet about Trump, unless he has issues with specific policy proposals, wherein he could lend his voice to the debate from the side he agrees with.

  178. blobbie says:

    mr vito,

    stop accusing robbie of being sexist because he likes the nytimes

    or something

  179. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 4, 2017 at 2:18 pm
    “Call me crazy, but I’d prefer the president not get his news from Breitbart.”
    -The NY Times would be better?
    Kind of like FDR during the 30’s?
    6 million Jews would not agree.

    – I’d rather the experts in his government (Mattis, Tillerson, Sessions, Comey) be the ones who give him the news.

  180. Mr.Vito says:

    “We’ll see how much of the Breitbart story holds up, but Pete Williams reports those in the DOJ who would know about what Trump tweeted have said they’re not sure what he’s discussing.”

    So, you haven’t read it? or you have nothing to dispute?

  181. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 4, 2017 at 2:24 pm
    “We’ll see how much of the Breitbart story holds up, but Pete Williams reports those in the DOJ who would know about what Trump tweeted have said they’re not sure what he’s discussing.”
    So, you haven’t read it? or you have nothing to dispute?

    – Yes, I read it this morning. It was based on what Mark Levin said on his radio show Thursday.

  182. NYCmike says:

    “As for Patton, his “constant offense” approach and intemperate attitude resulted in him losing 7th Army in Sicily, being denied any command during the Normandy invasion, and his ultimate firing from 3rd Army after comparing Nazi Party membership to Republican and Democrat membership in the US.”

    -The first two are a reflection on the army’s political leadership, namely Eisenhower and Montgomery.

    As Trump clearly showed earlier in the week, he can dial it back when needed.

  183. blobbie says:

    yes, just because pete williams hates trump is no reason to suspect that he would be biased

  184. NYCmike says:

    I do like that Levin has himself a new listener in Robbie.

  185. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Have you signed up for CRTV? 🙂

  186. Mr.Vito says:

    ” It was based on what Mark Levin said on his radio show Thursday.”

    So it has nothing to do with Breitbart… it has to do with Levin.

    What is in dispute about what Levin said? I don’t follow him, but I didn’t think he normally made stuff up.

  187. NYCmike says:

    Tina to mention Levin, Australia, and immigrants in 3….2…..1….

  188. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 4, 2017 at 2:30 pm
    Robbie,
    Have you signed up for CRTV?

    – Ha! No.

  189. NYCmike says:

    “but I didn’t think he normally made stuff up.”

    -Whoa, now just you wait a minute, ol’ cotton-tongue! Don’t you go starting any rumors that Levin is honest and forthright with his audience!

  190. Mr.Vito says:

    Okay, so I found the article. It references all it’s sources, including NYT, NRO, WAPO, and HeatStreet. HeatStreet references NYT and FBI and other intelligence officials.

  191. Robbie says:

    This story may explain why Trump went off this morning. ABC reports Trump was in a very foul mood yesterday and it may have carried over into today.

    NYCmike says:
    March 4, 2017 at 2:30 pm
    Robbie,
    Have you signed up for CRTV?

  192. Mr.Vito says:

    “ABC reports Trump was in a very foul mood yesterday and it may have carried over into today.”

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

  193. Mr.Vito says:

    The Heat Street article says the FISA warrant was issued according to sources, and included ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.”

    https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/

  194. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like Trump through a couple of tweets has managed to dominate the news again. The leftist press is once again being his patsies.

    Every Trump does this, it sucks the air out the ability of the Democrats to generate a narrative.

    My hunch is the tweets are well strategized, and its done by more than one person.

  195. Mr.Vito says:

    “The FISA warrant was granted in connection with the investigation of suspected activity between the server and two banks, SVB Bank and Alfa Bank. However, it is thought in the intelligence community that the warrant covers any ‘US person’ connected to this investigation, and thus covers Donald Trump and at least three further men who have either formed part of his campaign or acted as his media surrogates. The warrant was sought, they say, because actionable intelligence on the matter provided by friendly foreign agencies could not properly be examined without a warrant by US intelligence as it involves ‘US Persons’ who come under the remit of the FBI and not the CIA. Should a counter-intelligence investigation lead to criminal prosecutions, sources say, the Justice Department is concerned that the chain of evidence have a basis in a clear warrant.”

    According to that article, Trump was included, and look who is involved… the DOJ.

    Let’s review the statement put out today:

    …………………………………..

    “Neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false,” Obama spokesman Kevin Lewis said in a statement.

    Lewis also said that “a cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice.”

  196. lisab says:

    did obama run any independent investigations in the doj?

  197. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So the Obama’s press release stated he would not interfere with an “independent investigation” by the Department of Justice. Who is he trying to kid? Did Bill Clinton have another private meeting with our supposedly independent Attorney General as part of this investigation?

  198. Tina says:

    Yes, called out. The obumbler bugged Trump. Arrest the obumbler.

  199. Tina says:

    Pete williams doj.

    He is not credible

  200. Mr.Vito says:

    He did not say no one interfered… he just said it was a rule.

  201. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Have to wonder if Comey’s action prior to the election is in any way is related to this?

  202. Mr.Vito says:

    Also, he did not say they never interfered in a non-independent investigation… it doesn’t preclude involvement by his administration.

  203. Tina says:

    Obama sedition trendimg

    Love, drats on defensive.

    Pretty true that the fisa warrant was re written and who it targeted.

  204. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    204. “he just said it was a rule.” A “cardinal rule” at that. Assume Ali Baba had a similar rule, and would never intervene in the affairs of one of his thieves.

  205. messy says:

    207. Fake news is trending.

  206. messy says:

    176 Not to mention 220 thousand Gypsies.

  207. Tina says:

    We know the obumbler would not miss an opportunity to inflame. Prrof is the fisa warrant was changed becaause of executive interference.

    I would fire comey

  208. Tina says:

    This is bigger than watergate.

  209. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-wiretap-trump-tower-media-claims-provides-no-evidence/

    Excellent summary here. Also conserrvative tree house had a great article on this yesterday.

  210. NYCmike says:

    “Every Trump does this, it sucks the air out the ability of the Democrats to generate a narrative.”

    -B O O M ! !

    San Diego,

    In the “good ol’ days”, the word “narrative” would have been mocked. Not so much anymore.

    Even the lover-of-four-legged-creatures has refrained so far. (casting line……)

  211. NYCmike says:

    “Also conserrvative tree house had a great article on this yesterday.”

    -“CG” should be here shortly….

  212. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 4, 2017 at 3:05 pm
    Looks like Trump through a couple of tweets has managed to dominate the news again. The leftist press is once again being his patsies.
    Every Trump does this, it sucks the air out the ability of the Democrats to generate a narrative.
    My hunch is the tweets are well strategized, and its done by more than one person.

    – I think you’re wrong. I don’t believe there’s any strategy to Trump’s tweeting and I don’t see how it’s a positive to have the press wondering aloud whether the FBI was granted a wiretap for Trump.

    The best explanation is Trump tweets what he wants and when he wants. And when he’s angry, he’s most likely to make his worst tweets.

  213. Tina says:

    Yeah lets not concern ourselves with fisa and illegal wiretaps of folks involved in a campaign.

  214. Tina says:

    These tweets are timely sdc. Russia gate is gone and now it is obama sedition.

  215. Robbie says:

    Pete Williams is extremely credible. He was Dick Cheney’s press secretary when he was defense secretary.

    More importantly, Gateway Pundit is an idiot and Conservative Treehouse traffics in anti-Semitism.

    We don’t need CG around to know that.

  216. NYCmike says:

    “And when he’s angry, he’s most likely to make his worst tweets.”

    -Obviously.

    All of those well-run meetings with business executives never happened.
    The couple of meetings with foreign leaders like Abe of Japan went terribly.
    The SOTU was an unmitigated disaster.

    Trump is CRAZY! IRRATIONAL! VERY, VERY SENSITIVE!

  217. Tina says:

    Obama also has a history of this. He witetapped merkel. Remember she was upset for a while.

  218. Tina says:

    Yup, all idiots that were right.

  219. NYCmike says:

    “More importantly, Gateway Pundit is an idiot and Conservative Treehouse traffics in anti-Semitism.”

    -Are you saying any story on either of those websites is false?

  220. Tina says:

    Cth was right about the fake hands up dont shoot, mike brown story.

  221. Tina says:

    Why did valerie jarret move into the obumbler mansion.

  222. Robbie says:

    The contorted logic that suggests Trump was smart to get the press to talk about whether the FBI wiretapped him is just ridiculous. When Trump feels cornered, his behavior on Twitter becomes erratic. We saw that this morning.

    There was no strategy to Trump’s tweets. He was angry and lashed out the only way he knew best. He did so because he apparently told his staff yesterday he’s disappointed in their efforts to push back against the Russia story. So as he’s want to do, he decided to take matters into his own hands.

  223. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 4, 2017 at 4:17 pm
    “More importantly, Gateway Pundit is an idiot and Conservative Treehouse traffics in anti-Semitism.”
    -Are you saying any story on either of those websites is false?

    – I’m saying Gateway Pundit is an idiot and Conservative Treehouse traffics in anti-Semitism. They could each tell me today was Saturday and I would still feel obligated to check the calendar myself.

  224. Tina says:

    Also, the obumbler used the irs to go after conservatives.

    So, he has used federal agencies to go after or target folks.

  225. Tina says:

    Jebot is triggered again

  226. Tina says:

    And folow why this is genius.

    The msm cited by the jebots now want proof.

  227. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 4:24 pm
    Jebot is triggered again

    – Yes, your consistent inability to spell correctly does trigger me.

  228. Tina says:

    After a FISA request is first denied, then a second one is filed and no evidence is found, why did the Government of BHO keep surveillance?

    Hannity asking a great ?s

  229. NYCmike says:

    “They could each tell me today was Saturday and I would still feel obligated to check the calendar myself.”

    -Well said. I apply that standard to them, as well as to the NY Times, CNN, WAPO, Levin, etc.

    Maybe you should get 1 standard as well.

  230. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 4:26 pm
    And folow why this is genius.
    The msm cited by the jebots now want proof.

    – I have a different take. Trump’s stupidity consistently places his supporters in a position of having to defend idiotic positions and you always come through in the clutch.

  231. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 4, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    “They could each tell me today was Saturday and I would still feel obligated to check the calendar myself.”
    -Well said. I apply that standard to them, as well as to the NY Times, CNN, WAPO, Levin, etc.
    Maybe you should get 1 standard as well.

    – Your standard seems to be, if a story tells you what you want to hear, it’s good. If a story doesn’t tell you what you want to hear, it’s not good.

  232. blobbie says:

    blobbie breaking new: trump is feeling a certain amount of ennui today …

  233. Sheeple Jr says:

    Are Obama and his lieutenants beyond wiretapping? Here is a trip down memory lane. Remember FOX News’ James Rosen.
    http://truepundit.com/flashback-obama-administration-secretly-wiretaps-journalists/

    Also, didn’t the CIA tap certain Senators ie Feinstein, during the Iran Nuclear negotiations?

  234. Tina says:

    Snr. US official also tells Pete Williams: Trump apparently did not consult with people in the government who would know, before tweeting.

    Williams is lying here. He has no sn source.

  235. Tina says:

    The alkegations of obama sedition plus him witetapping merkel and other officials and e irs scandal must reukt in an investigation.

  236. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 4:34 pm
    Snr. US official also tells Pete Williams: Trump apparently did not consult with people in the government who would know, before tweeting.
    Williams is lying here. He has no sn source.

    – Tina’s knows this because she and Gateway Pundit put on their tinfoil hats and read Pete Williams mind.

  237. Tina says:

    Ben Rhodes? @brhodes
    No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you.

    Fake news, angelea merkel was wiretapled by odinga.

  238. Tina says:

    Lindsey Graham: ‘I’m Very Worried’ Trump’s Suggesting That Obama ‘Has Done Something Illegal’ (link: http://bit.ly/2mpRJZv) bit.ly/2mpRJZv (VIDEO)

    Goober chimes in. He had no concern about the suggestions about trump and russia, proven false by the fbi in response to the first fisa wiretap.

  239. Tina says:

    What did mark levine do now? Trying to follow the posts frommearlier today.

  240. jason says:

    Take it easy on Wobbie. He provides a public service.

    I used to peruse the moonbat sites and the MSM (am I repeating myself) just to see what they were thinking.

    Now I can just scan a few of Wobbie’s comments and save my self the trouble.

  241. Tina says:

    Jebots 1 and 2 are mad that russiagate was ripped to shreds. Drats like cile schumah and frankenstein and puglosi met with pooty poot and or the russian ambassadors.

    They are mad that obama appears to have been caught wiretapping.

  242. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 4:45 pm
    Jebots 1 and 2 are mad that russiagate was ripped to shreds. Drats like cile schumah and frankenstein and puglosi met with pooty poot and or the russian ambassadors.
    They are mad that obama appears to have been caught wiretapping.

    – Your stupidity is boundless. I really mean that. I don’t think there’s anything that links Trump to Russia. Maybe some of his associates had contacts with Russians, but even the NYT reports the FBI has found no collusion between them. And even if some on Trump’s staff colluded, it’s probably not against the law.

    But by all means, just keep repeating your lies and falsehoods. You went off the deep end a few years ago and you haven’t made any attempt to reclaim your credibility as evidenced by the fact you call Gateway Pundit and Conservative Treehouse credible sources.

  243. Tina says:

    CNN Lies & Is Hitler? @NolteNC
    The Cycle

    Trump hurls grenade & disappears
    MSM freaks w/lies & overreach
    Trump proven right
    MSM lies more
    Trump wins
    MSM screams SQUIRREL

    So true.

  244. Tina says:

    Merkel: WIRETAPPED
    AP: RECORDS SEIZED
    Rosen & parents: RECORDS SEIZED
    Trump Tower: OBAMA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT LET’S TALK ABOUT RUSSIA

    Add the irs targeting conservatives.

  245. Robbie says:

    When you’re in a hole, quote John Nolte. That’s the ticket!

  246. Tina says:

    When you are in mommas basement crash a paper plane.

  247. Robbie says:

    Drudge, Breitbart, and other do deserve a lot of credit. They have created an echo chamber that’s so loud they’re followers can’t or choose not to hear anything that doesn’t conform.

  248. Tina says:

    Notice hiw the jebot attacks conservatives. So, predictable.

  249. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    When you are in mommas basement crash a paper plane.

    – Bless your heart.

  250. Tina says:

    So, in jebot land who ordered the wire tap of merkel?

  251. Tina says:

    There goes the claim that the president cannot order a wiretap.

  252. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:12 pm
    Notice hiw the jebot attacks conservatives. So, predictable.

    – Gateway Pundit, Nolte, and your other heroes aren’t conservatives. They’re little more than clickbait provocateurs who play on your gullible nature. Sorry you’re too confused to see that.

  253. Tina says:

    Sopan, pete williams, and the drunk are not conservatives

  254. Tina says:

    Sorry, but your claim to be a conservative or republican sre laughable.

  255. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:14 pm
    So, in jebot land who ordered the wire tap of merkel?

    – Bless your heart. Merkel is a foreigner. Spy agencies are there precisely to spy on her just as the Germans do to us. Trump is an American and, if Obama wanted to wiretap him, he would need FISA court approval. He can’t do it on his own, legally any way.

  256. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:16 pm
    Sopan, pete williams, and the drunk are not conservatives

    – It took all day, but you finally mentioned Sopan Deb. Everyone of your rants always mentions him. He must really trigger you. Sad!

  257. Cash Cow TM says:

    Robbie is full of BALDERDASH!

    (I am supremely disappointed that nobody else is using “balderdash” today.)

  258. Walt says:

    In church leadership meetings today for 6 hours.

    Nobody brought up anything about Trump being wiretapped by Obamer.

  259. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:17 pm
    Sorry, but your claim to be a conservative or republican sre laughable.

    – Well, I’m clearly not your kind of “conservative” because I don’t follow kranks like Gateway Pundit or traffic in conspiracies like you do.

  260. Tina says:

    You do not know fisa. Try again.

  261. Robbie says:

    Cash Cow TM says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:18 pm
    Robbie is full of BALDERDASH!
    (I am supremely disappointed that nobody else is using “balderdash” today.)

    – Today, I’m full of indigestion.

  262. Tina says:

    The President may authorize, through the Attorney General, electronic surveillance without a court order for the period of one year provided it is only for foreign intelligence information;[10] targeting foreign powers as defined by 50 U.S.C. § 1801(a)(1),(2),(3)[15] in certain conditions; and there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party.[16

  263. Tina says:

    And full of sheot as usual

  264. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:20 pm
    You do not know fisa. Try again.

    – The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, also called the FISA Court) is a U.S. federal court established and authorized under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Such requests are made most often by the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Congress created FISA and its court as a result of the recommendations by the U.S. Senate’s Church Committee.[1] Its powers have evolved to the point that it has been called “almost a parallel Supreme Court.”[2]

  265. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 4, 2017 at 5:22 pm
    And full of sheot as usual

    – Maybe, but I’m not a conspiracy theorist like you are.

  266. Tina says:

    If Trump is correct about wiretaps, signals big trouble for him–a FISA warrant, federal judge finding probable cause for surveillance.

    This is a tweet from a jebot. The only problem is the 2nd wiretap re oved trumps name. So, try again.

  267. Cash Cow TM says:

    What I have learned in the last 24 hours or so:

    1. Somebody maybe wiretapped someone, but for sure someone is leaking some government info stu.ff with the purpose of embarrassing DJT and his people.

    2. The MSM has been relentless in reporting that various DJT people have actually spoken with Rooshans.

    3. apparently the Rooshans are bad–much owrse than isis, and anyone who meets and talks with any Rooshan for any reason should be executed–since it is guilt by association and anyone who talks to Rooshans are EVIL and up to no good.

    4. all the Dem Senators, conrgresscritters, and other who meet regularly with the Rooshan officials are exempt from being executed.

    5. The MSM does not feel it is important to find out who is illegally leaking DJT government stu.ff through possible wiretaps (legal or illegal) or through any other means.

    Am I missing anything?

  268. Tina says:

    Curious that valerie jarret is housed by the obumbler this week.

  269. blobbie says:

    breaking blobbie news: trump is now bemused …

    unnamed sources say

  270. Tina says:

    Lol, jebot. I am not a drat plant here or one that called for 2 broken conventions in the last three election cycles.

  271. Tina says:

    Goober is really stupid. This is why the tweet is perfect.

  272. Wobbles says:

    Standby….

    Somewhere, someway, somehow the MSM is going to report something against Trump.

    I will be the first to report it.

    No, don’t thank me, it’s what I do.

  273. Chicon says:

    Much comes down to the facts about the warrant. If the court issued a warrant targeting Trump, then it was likely based on evidence. This would be a bad thing for Trump. If someone in the executive branch used the Russian guy as a backdoor way to record Trump’s conversations and then illegally leaked the results…..bad deal for Obama and the Dems. I suspect the latter.

  274. Wobbles says:

    Here is my motto:

    If the MSM says it, you must believe it!

  275. Wobbles says:

    This is not original, I borrowed it from Johnny Cochran’s “if it doesn’t fit, you must convict”.

  276. Tina says:

    Rotties news service.

  277. Tina says:

    The 2nd warrant removed trumos name, the first did not. The first was rejected.

  278. Chicon says:

    Also, if I were Trump (and as far as you know, I’m not), I’d be wondering out loud if the info gleaned from the tap was the real purpose behind the runway meeting in Phoenix.

  279. blobbie says:

    omg … trump met with known associates of russians

    evidence here

    http://www.redstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/trumphill.jpg

  280. Tina says:

    Kac om jeanine piros show tonight to discuss obamas sedition

  281. Cash Cow TM says:

    “retarded monkey”

    dorky men darted
    re-traded monkey
    me retard donkey

  282. Mr.Vito says:

    Average air strikes per year against Al Qaeda in Yemen 2012-2016: 30

    Air strikes against Al Qaeda in Yemen in the last two days: 30+

  283. lisab says:

    fox news just said that an obama official did confirm the wiretaps

  284. Tina says:

    Yup, so did oan.

    This is. Yuge scandal

    An illegal wiretap under fisa.

  285. Proud Obamacon says:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/04/go-back-to-your-own-country-sikh-man-shot-in-his-driveway-in-suspected-hate-crime/?utm_term=.4ff703b4d9fc

    I guess it was only a matter of time before this happened again. A reminder to all of hyphenated Americans that might get complacent because the hate is directed at Muslims and not Indians or other browns – when they’re stupid enough to be that racist, you can’t expect them to be smart enough to tell the difference between Muslims and non-Muslims. There’s just “them”.

  286. Tina says:

    Speaker Paul Ryan joined Brett Baier last night on Special Report.

    Ryan told Baier the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower.

    Brett Baier: There’s a report that June 2016 there’s a FISA request b the Obama administration from a communications court to monitor communications to monitor Donald Trump and several campaign officials. They get turned down. Then in October they renew it. And they do start a wiretap at Trump Tower with some computer and Russian banks and it doesn’t show up anything. Have you heard that?

    Paul Ryan: Again as I said none of us in Congress or anybody I know in Congress has been presented with evidence to the contrary to what you just said.

    Brett Baier: So you believe it to be true.

    Speaker Ryan: We have seen no evidence that anyone in this campaign or no American was in on it with the Russians to meddle with your elections.

    Ryan confirms wiretap.

  287. Trump says:

    Hey Obama sucker, here’s the best part of your lib article:

    The father of the injured Indian man said the rhetoric of President Trump contributed to negative feelings in the nation and implored parents in India “not to send their children to the United States.”

    GOOD STAY THE F OUT

  288. Tina says:

    Towergate trending.

  289. Tina says:

    Whoops ny times 1/19/17 reported that wiretap information shared with the obumbler.

  290. Tina says:

    Oops

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04/obama-advisor-rhodes-wrong-president-can-order-wiretap-and-why-trump-may-have-last-l

    This is what i cited earlier and while it could apply to a foreign gubment, it cannot be applid to an american, one the victim of collateral damage. Section clearly states us person….

    Thus, illegal.

  291. Phil says:

    Wonder what fool in the Obama Administration thought it would be a good idea to tap Trump and his campaign staff.

    My guess is that they all were so used to the media covering for them they felt they could get away with anything including this.

    Pass the popcorn.

  292. Tina says:

    In the zero hedge article, an obumbler soeechwriter confirms wiretapping.

  293. Tina says:

    The rationale for the wiretap shoukd be made public.

  294. Tina says:

    There should be the court order.

  295. Trump says:

    The Obama people were convinced Trump would not be president.

    As was the regarded monkey Robbie. This fuc&red up moron has still to realize that Trump is not Bush. Neither W nor Jeb.

  296. Tina says:

    Lock obama up!!!!

  297. lisab says:

    LORETTA LYNCH: NEED MORE ‘MARCHING, BLOOD, DEATH ON STREETS’

    Senate Dems post her impassioned plea on Facebook page as ‘words of inspiration’

  298. lisab says:

    the dems have lost their minds

  299. lisab says:

    in the interest of being completely open

    i have met ambassadors from the united states, russia, poland, germany and the united kingdom.

    the polish ambassador gave me a wedding present.

    i did not disclose these meetings in the past in my hhr postings

  300. Phil says:

    Only the Republican Party could win the Presidency, control the Justice Department, and then unilaterally turn that Justice Department over to the next in line assistant AG who is an Obama appointee.

    Good Lord.

  301. lisab says:

    Gang members charged with killing woman in Satanic ritual

    Two illegal immigrant members of the ruthless MS-13 gang were arrested in Texas this week and charged with killing a woman as part of a Satanic ritual, according to reports.

    Another 14-year-old girl claimed she ran away from school late last month and met the duo at an apartment in southwest Houston, according to court documents cited by ABC 13.

    She stayed there for four days and claimed another man known as “Flaco” sexually assaulted her there, according to the station.

    She was then taken to the apartment where Genesis was being held, and remained there against her will for 14 days. Her captors — six members of the gang — force-fed her drugs and alcohol, and at one point, Alvarez-Flores tattooed an image of the Grim Reaper from her knee down to her foot, the station reported.

  302. Phil says:

    ….just here to do jobs American citizens refuse to do.

  303. Wobbles says:

    trump met with known associates of russians”

    Like people who actually associate with Russians?

    There is an unconfirmed rumor he has eaten caviar several times and Chicken Kiev at least twice.

    I don’t see how he can recover from this.

  304. lisab says:

    why we don’t care about robbie’s silly fake news stories

    https://media.giphy.com/media/l2SpPZdjcX3JSjR3a/giphy.gif

    was just barely stopped

  305. lisab says:

    i probably should have added a

    ** warning graphic **

    tag to the picture in #313

  306. NYCmike says:

    lisab,

    YES, a

    ** warning graphic **

    should be MAN-datory for the Hildabeast.

  307. lisab says:

    snl is going after jeff sessions now

  308. lisab says:

    YES, a ** warning graphic ** should be MAN-datory for the Hildabeast.
    ——————————-

    i should have been more careful, that could cause an accident

  309. NYCmike says:

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/loretta-lynch-need-more-marching-blood-death-on-streets/

    -When she was nominated for AG, I said she should either throw Eric Holder under the bus, and denounce him as a person who did NOT enforce the law, or if she did not do that, she should NOT be confirmed.

    I should go back to see who disagreed with me…..let me try to guess some of those…..MD, Author, “CG”, jason (fortunately, he has agreed with me much more since Nov 8th – a remarkable awakening on his part!!).

  310. Tina says:

    Here is the timeline to obamas sedition. Cth played a role in the timeline formation

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/timeline-obamas-unlawful-spying-opposition-partys-candidate-trump-tower/

  311. Tina says:

    Jebots to implode. Trump is still tweeting this am

    Who was it that secretly said to Russian President, “Tell Vladimir that after the election I’ll have more flexibility?” @foxandfriends
    3:40 AM – 5 Mar 2017

  312. NYCmike says:

    It will be interesting to see the facts behind this story. If Trump is correct on all points, then someone like Sasse, who I have no issue with, should be primaried, simply for falling for the media/Democrat line of attack. Nebraska is a conservative-oriented state. Goober and McCain will be out in the next 5-10 years, we don’t need more squishes replacing them. We already have work to do with the Tennessee couple.

  313. messy says:

    321 Gateway pundit is a source of Fake News. Trump is a fabulist who will make stuff up.

  314. NYCmike says:

    Sally Yates – name to remember

  315. NYCmike says:

    “Gateway pundit is a source of Fake News.”

    -messy,

    “_________ is a source of Fake News.”

    Fill in the blank. NY Times, WAPO, CNN, FOX, etc….

    The difference I see is that sources on the internet link to their information, at least to allow you some semblance of an ability to check their facts, as opposed to the MSM, which EXPECTS you to take their “news” as gospel truth.

    That is happening less and less, due to their own actions.

  316. Tina says:

    Asse has been a disappointment.

  317. Tina says:

    It is not @realDonaldTrump but the left and #NeverTrump lunatics who are in panic mode. They never expected anyone to fight the #fakenews.

    This explains why goober and mcamnesty are nervous. Since both peddled the russian dozzier that was fake. Remeber, the british intelligence.

  318. Tina says:

    Looks like the fake dossier peddled by mcamnesty, who met with aq un syria, was used for the fisa determination, 2nd one.

  319. messy says:

    326. From the “source” given

    “The Obama administration knew there were no Trump ties to Russia that is just the excuse they are using now to try to cover for their illegal activity.”

    There you have it. Fake News. The person interviewed on FOX was a W. BUSH. advisor, and she said that she got the info from “a source inside the White House.” All the sources inside the White House work for Trump.

  320. Tina says:

    In orrect, the no ties has been reportedd by the fbi. Congress, including mcamnesty, asse. And the republicrats have had this same information.

    See also ryans interview from the ither day

  321. Tina says:

    The REAL STORY here is that Obama used the power of the Federal Government to spy on his political rivals but NO EVIDENCE was found!

    He committed sedition

  322. Tina says:

    And do not think for a moment that the obumbler did not know about the wiretaps. He did know.

  323. messy says:

    se·di·tion
    s??diSH(?)n/
    noun
    noun: sedition; plural noun: seditions

    conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

  324. messy says:

    A good example of sedition is Trump’s assertion that Obama is not a natural born citizen.

  325. Tina says:

    Hillary was the original birther. Try to follow.

  326. Tina says:

    Obama has a history of tapping & hacking his friends and rivals https://wikileaks.org/nsa-201602/ #NSA #PRISM #Merkel #Sarkozy #BanKiMoon #WTO #Trump

    Wikileaks, you include reporters too, right?

  327. messy says:

    336. nope.

  328. Sheeple Jr says:

    339 yep

  329. Tina says:

    John Cardillo Retweeted

    48m
    Sean Spicer? @PressSec
    (4/4) Neither the White House nor the President will comment further until such oversight is conducted.

  330. Tina says:

    Trump wants congress to look at the obumbler exec branch and see what was done as part of any investigation.

    You know the rinos will be incensed.

  331. Tina says:

    This is big time from spicer because it makes it illegitimate, if any investigation that ignores this while chilling the Dems from wanting to pursue it further.

  332. Tina says:

    I am glad that trump tweets. He has destroyed the ds the last few days over russia, got everybody to concede that the obumbler wire tapped him, and now will make congress look into it.

  333. messy says:

    But he hasn’t. Obama’s people have denied any such thing, and then there’s the FISA warrents for the FBI investigation.

  334. Tina says:

    Both @SenTomCotton & @ChrisCoons tell Chris they have seen no hard evidence of collusion between “Trump World” & Russians to effect election

    Bioarisan consensus no ties, which confirms the fbi reports.

  335. Tina says:

    13m
    Bill Mitchell? @mitchellvii
    ABCNews reported that Trump, “blew up over Sessions recusal,” yet no media was present at the meeting. #FakeNews

    Lol

  336. Tina says:

    347, your obumbler also said that benghazi was caused by a you tube video.

  337. Tina says:

    Jebots to further implode tomorrow

    New exec orders on illegal immigration.

  338. Sheeple Jr says:

    Tina
    Add former Top Spook Clapper to your list.

  339. Phil says:

    ‘Obama’s people have denied such a thing”

    Oooo. well, that settles everything now, doesn’t it.

  340. Sheeple Jr says:

    Clapper says that “he can deny there was no FISA warrant against Trump or his campaign”. In his next breath, he says “there is no evidence of collusion between Trump, the Trump campaign and the Russians”.
    So in sum, Clapper wants to “CALL THE WHOLE THING OFF”. LOL

    If Clapper is correct about the second point above, then the MSM, which has breathlessly reported on these connections, are either dupes or fabricators.

  341. Tina says:

    Yes coonc ans claptrap now want it over.

    Lol, it has just begun.

  342. Tina says:

    If there was no warrant then who authorized the wire tap?

  343. Tina says:

    And why the reports of a server tied to trump,tower.

  344. Sheeple Jr says:

    Tina– Clapper claims all of this Russian stuff never happened,(at least legally).

  345. Sheeple Jr says:

    Tina– if Clapper is correct, the MSM is in big trouble. They should disclose the sources which lied to them. Most ,of course, are anonymous cowards!

  346. Bitterlaw says:

    Somebody posted a picture of their daughter on FB. She appeared to be 8-10. She was wearing a pro-Trump shirt at a rally. I said that I did not like it when Democrats used children to make points at their rallies so I had to be consistent and be critical of the pro-Trump family, too. The threat to beat me up was the mildest comment.

  347. Bitterlaw says:

    When I ran for local office, I refused to have my children in the campaign literature. I lost a School Board race by 20 votes. Even if a photo of me with them would have allowed me to win, I am glad that I did not do it.

  348. Wes says:

    Personally I don’t think using one’s children as a means to attract votes is wrong. It’s politics. Use the resources you have to win or enjoy the private sector.

    I’m a big supporter of the military and political strategies advocated by Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, and Robert Greene. The goal is not to feel good but to win.

  349. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NolteNC/status/838422597146652675/photo/1

    So, wiretapped communciations was delivered to the wh per its own reporting.

  350. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    If I was on Facebook, I would come to your defense. I don’t like kids at political rallies, for either side.

    During a campaign, I think I would take a picture with my kids, depending on the circumstances.

  351. Mr.Vito says:

    However, Mr.Bitter is okay with using their two elbows and five fouls per game.

    Ha cha cha cha

  352. Tina says:

    And if Clapper is telling the truth, then this #Russia nonsense was all Dem/#NeverTrump collusion, and the FISA warrant stories #fakenews.

  353. Tina says:

    The obumbler appears to have labeled the information on trump as low level classsification, so that it could be widely shared. Iif low level, them the imformation had to be destroyed. However, it was not and it was disseminated widely. Aka leaked.

    This violates fisa law.

  354. Mr.Vito says:

    On Sunday, he added that “it would be very healthy to completely clear the air on this subject” and noted that the current inquiry by the Senate’s Select Committee on Intelligence into the matter will be able to look at the issues from a broader context than they would.

    “I do have confidence” in the Senate effort, he said, calling it “truly bipartisan.”

    Clapper said it was important to get to the bottom of these issues “because it’s such a distraction. Certainly the Russians have to be chortling about the success of their efforts to sew dissention in this country.”

    ………………………

    Anyone still think these guys aren’t listening to the socks?

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 3, 2017 at 9:31 am
    Intelligence: the Russians were trying to undermine our Democratic process
    DNC and MSM: what a great idea! How can we help?

  355. Wes says:

    Things that bother Bitterlaw:

    Using children as campaign props.

    Things Bitterlaw supports:

    A drunk-driving, incompetent, inarticulate jingoist who lies a country into war and sits back for years while terrorists slaughter thousands with impunity.

    I’m not exactly sure Bitterlaw is the paragon of a moral compass.

  356. Tina says:

    The first fisa request came immediately after bjs meeting with radical loretta lynch.

  357. Tina says:

    Pretty clear that the obumbler shared the ilkegal wiretap information with her thighness

    Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank. pic.twitter.com/8f8n9xMzUU

  358. Tina says:

    15m
    John Cardillo? @johncardillo
    Interesting that it’s Team Obama, not Team Trump, scrambling with denials and damage control on the Sunday shows. #FISA

    Include jebots and nevertrumpers

  359. Tina says:

    So, we have more proof that the obumbler interfered in a presidential election than the russians.

  360. Tina says:

    Boom!!!!

    JUST IN: Cotton: Trump’s wiretapping claims will be part of Senate intelligence probe http://washex.am/2m86sWA

  361. Tina says:

    James Rosen
    Al ap
    Merkel

    All wire tapped by the obumbler.

  362. Phil says:

    I love Senator Cotton.

  363. Phil says:

    How’s t going, Tina?

  364. Tina says:

    Fine phil, we got more rain over ight and are saturated. Heavy storms the last 2 momths.

  365. Tina says:

    How are you?

  366. Phil says:

    Pretty good. I take it the drought in California has pretty well been remedied.

  367. Tina says:

    Yes, nit moonbeam will find an excuse to say we are still in a drought.

  368. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes describes American slavery as “wrong” but not “evil.”

    Wes can F off when he tries to judge me.

  369. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw describes slavery as evil but then has no problem with Lincoln for overtly allowing its continuation in Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware in a document called the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Bitter can GFH with his sanctimonious faux moral uprightness.

  370. Proud Obamacon says:

    Coffee maker kicked the bucket this morning. Had to make an emergency run to Target to procure a temporary replacement. It’s going to be one of those days. Thanks, Obama.

  371. lisab says:

    “A good example of sedition is Trump’s assertion that Obama is not a natural born citizen.”

    it would be if obama was a king

    but he was not

    despite what the dems think

  372. lisab says:

    “Obama’s people have denied any such thing”

    actually they did not

    and worse some obama admin people have been sources

    of course it could be minor players

  373. Bitterlaw says:

    Lincoln also was the reason slavery finally ended in the US. Keeping those states in line was necessary to win the war that ended slavery,the war. Wes always forgets that. Wes to say that Lincoln would have allowed slavery to preserve the Union..,Wait he ultimately ended slavery AND preserved the Union.

  374. lisab says:

    Somebody posted a picture of their daughter on FB. She appeared to be 8-10. She was wearing a pro-Trump shirt at a rally.
    ———————————-

    i personally would not do this … i don’t even have facebook because i am obviously well known in my community and attract too much attention as it is. the last thing i need is someone i don’t know coming up to me in walmart and screaming, “you did not give my snowflake an award!”

    however, if a parent wants to put pictures of their children online, that is their stupid decision

  375. lisab says:

    “Interesting that it’s Team Obama, not Team Trump, scrambling with denials and damage control on the Sunday shows. #FISA”

    they know that people could go to jail

    and

    that if the data was widely distributed someone will flip for a get out of jail free card

  376. messy says:

    386. Unless she was in Berkeley California, then there’s no problem with that. I went to civil rights and anti-war rallies as a kid.

  377. Wes says:

    You don’t know a goddamn thing about history, Bitter. That’s sad for someone who hangs out on a political blog.

    Although Lincoln did support the end of slavery as attested by his votes during his single congressional term, he actually wrote blacks should not have the same legal protections as whites and proposed shipping the slaves to Central America as a way to end slavery.

    Further, Lincoln actually wrote at the beginning of the war, he would be willing to allow slavery so long as the Union remained intact. In 1864, he pointedly refused to even mention the 13th Amendment being debated in Congress while seeking a second term. (I know you’re unaware, but although a President can support a proposed constitutional amendment, he has zero role in its ratification. I’m guessing you skipped discussions of the Constitution during high school and college.) He did sign the 13th Amendment as a show of support for it though this was pro forma as Congress had to send it to the state legislatures for approval.

    As such, while lionized as the prime mover of the end of slavery by you and other low-information people, Lincoln actually had only an ambiguous personal role in the end of slavery, which he was clearly noncommittal to despite personal antipathy toward slavery before the middle of the Civil War.

  378. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Reread 385. Then GFY.

  379. Bitterlaw says:

    Revisionist Wes can pretend that Lincoln had no role in ending slavery but that is because he is an apologist for the Confederacy. Never forget that he only described slavery as “wrong.” Words have meaning. That is why I used the word “evil” to describe it.

  380. Cash Cow TM says:

    I would post here more often, but I think both the Rooshans and Obama and lord knows who else are wiretapping this site.
    ****************************
    And to all who are illegally doing so, GFY!

  381. Walt says:

    Cow,

    You have little to fear.

    In all of recorded history, there has never been a cow sent to prison for what they typed on a political blog.

    If they DO come after you, claim you are an immigrant bovine from India where cows are sacred and claim diplomatic immunity, and then sing
    “Can’t touch This!”

  382. Wes says:

    Revisionist and low-information Bitterlaw can lie all he wants about what I specifically said, but I’ve posted strictly historical facts while he pretends Lincoln was some kind of infallible god.

    To paraphrase William Smith from Conan the barbarian in a different context, Lincoln was not a god, not a giant, just a man.

    It’s quite amusing to see a low-information acolyte of an ideal that never truly existed twist into pretzels when called out on his blind adherence to idealized ahistorical political memes resort to lying and outrage when told of the reality of people and events of 15 decades ago.

  383. Wes says:

    Now, Bitter, do what I know you want to do and invoke Godwin’s Law to complete your minimal number of cookie-cutter responses any time you bring this subject up.

    I would note again you not only refuse to admonish Lincoln but actually defend him for doing exactly nothing to ease the plight of slaves in states actually under Union control in the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Who’s apologizing for slavery now?

  384. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    393. “If they DO come after you, claim you are an immigrant bovine from India”

    Be careful, you may get Cow deported. He might not get eaten in India, but a lot of sacred cows in India seem to starve.

  385. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Won’t have a opinion of the Bitter/Wes dispute until I read the transcript of the wiretaps. What did Lincoln know and when did he know it?

  386. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great tweet by Trump:

    @realDonaldTrump

    Who was it that secretly said to Russian President, “Tell Vladimir that after the election I’ll have more flexibility?”

    Here is the video of the open mic comment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE

  387. messy says:

    IN other news…Trump LIED about American steel and the Keystone pipeline! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/keystone-pipeline-wont-use-us-steel-despite-trump-pledge.html

    Note that was from FOX News…..

  388. messy says:

    Four Hundred.

  389. Robbie says:

    Comey asks Justice Department to reject Trump’s wiretap claims. Sad! Who knew leveling such explosive charges based on Mark Levin and a Breitbart story was a bad idea.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/trump-seeks-inquiry-into-allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0

  390. Proud Obamacon says:

    #400 What? The Pussy Grabber lied?

    Don’t worry. The Groper in Chief will tweet out that it was Obama’s fault and his sheep will buy it.

    WORST.ADMIMISTRATION.EVAHHHHHHH

  391. messy says:

    The headline in the Drudge Report:

    DEMS SMELL BLOOD IN WATER

    It seems the “Obama wiretap” charge was bogus.

  392. Proud Obamacon says:

    So poorly played by the Pussy grabber. If he wasn’t tapped, then he’s a liar. If he was, then there’s probably cause that he committed a crime.

    Check and Mate Mr. President LOL . What an embarrassment!!!

    NOT.MY.PRESIDENT

  393. Robbie says:

    James Clapper, who oversaw all intelligence agencies, told Chuck Todd there was no wiretapping and there was no evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russians. To be fair, the recent NYT stories have reported no collusion has been found, but the press has ignored that piece of data.

    Jake Tapper also tweeted this afternoon White House sources told him and CNN Trump got his information from the Breitbart story and that he did not reach out to anyone in the government to confirm what he read. A simple phone call to Jeff Sessions or Jim Comey could have precluded any of this from happening, but Trump tends to shoot first.

    Short of a bombshell admission by the government Obama did use the NSA to wiretap Trump (unlikely to happen), this episode is going to leave a mark on Trump’s fragile reputation with the public. My guess is it will be less about this particular claim and more about the fact Trump seems quick to anger and easily swayed by flimsy stories of conspiracy. Let’s not forget, Trump claimed Ted Cruz’s dad had a hand in the JFK assassination. He likes conspiracies and he’s not afraid to mention them is public.

    And while the White House won’t admit it, the statement from Sean Spicer today suggests they want to quickly move away from Trump’s claims. Saying they want the intelligence committees to investigate and they will no longer discuss the story suggests they know this is trouble and want to limit any more talk of it.

  394. Bitterlaw says:

    When Wes can’t win an argument, he makes up an argument that he can win based on what I might say even if I have not said. He is one who described slavery as “wrong.” Pretty weak condemnation of evil. Slavery ended because of Lincoln and the Union army. The 13th Amendment made that official and legal. Wes can pretend Lincoln just happened to be sitting around one day with no impact on that outcome but he is wrong.

    Maybe Wes can tell us when slavery would have ended in America without Lincoln. Then he can tell us why it was a few more decades of that “wrong” to let it play out.

  395. Bitterlaw says:

    Worth a few more decades.

  396. Trump says:

    The retarded monkey Robbie is now quoting Clapper?

    How low can you go? Clapper the liar will be in jail soon, along with the Obama toady Brennan.

  397. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    399. The steel for the Dakota and Keystone pipeline had already been bought, and was at the site. It would not fall under the executive order, any new purchases would be American.

    Thankfully, the pipeline will be completed in a short time. Obama’s playing politics with the project was ridiculous.

  398. Trump says:

    Hey Jen coc$sucker retard, it had been established that the Obama doj obtained fuss warrant for trump. Try to keep up, moron.

  399. Robbie says:

    Assuming the wiretap story doesn’t quickly blow up in Trump’s face, he needs to hope for legislative victories on Obamacare and tax reform. A successful hearing for Neil Gorsuch would be a good start, but that means Trump should stay far away from Twitter lest he totally step on what should be a high point for his administration.

    That said, I have little hope Trump will take a less confrontational role. He has stirred up a hornet’s nest and the press/Democrats are coming after him hard now. And as we’ve seen before, Trump always hits back when cornered, often to his own detriment. Remember the Khans?

  400. Trump says:

    Let Obama explain what he knew and when he knew it, retard.

  401. Trump says:

    Robbie retarded monkey, trump is not Jeb.

    I know that is hard for you to figure out..

  402. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The issue is whether or not Trump was wiretaped. Denials by government bureaucrats mean nothing. Trump wants and investigation, and it needs to take place.

    Given the fact Obama had, among other things, been listening on Angela Merket’s cell telephone calls, I would put nothing beneath him.

  403. Bitterlaw says:

    407 was a correction of 406 to add omitted word. Extending slavery another minute was not worth it. Except possibly for Wes.

  404. Trump says:

    Trump controls the narrative, dumbfu$k,

    Now all you morons will be chasing obama and lynch.

    As I said, Trump is not an idiot like Bush.

  405. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    411. Maybe you should be waiting until the investigation is completed, and not make assumptions in advance? Trump seems to have survived all your prior predictions of doom.

  406. Trump says:

    Remember the khans?

    Sure.

    Trump is president, khan is history.

    In the real world. In the retard monkey Robbie world, khan is president?

  407. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 5, 2017 at 5:12 pm
    411. Maybe you should be waiting until the investigation is completed, and not make assumptions in advance? Trump seems to have survived all your prior predictions of doom.

    – And maybe you should take a more skeptical view of a president who makes wild claims on Twitter based on little more than Mark Levin and Breitbart.

    It’s not the attacks from the press or the Democrats that will sink Trump. It’s his self destructive behavior that makes him prone to believe in conspiracy theories.

  408. Robbie says:

    Maggie Haberman?Verified account @maggieNYT 4m4 minutes ago
    More
    Trump was frustrated by the Sunday shows today/felt people didn’t defend him strongly enough on his Obama claim, per ppl close to him.

  409. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 10:04 am
    Jebots to further implode tomorrow

    New exec orders on illegal immigration.

    – You stupid woman. I support enhanced vetting and have said so repeatedly.

  410. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If Trump can show he was wire-tapped, and in this day and age wire-taps/eavesdropping are common, it would be a game changer. The Democratic opposition would disintegrate, and it would take some time to regroup.

    Would be surprised if Trump was not “wire-tapped” or under more sophisticated surveillance by a multitude of entities, both foreign and domestic.
    As example, the NSA basically does blanket surveillance indiscriminately.

  411. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    419. “maybe you should take a more skeptical view of a president who makes wild claims on Twitter:

    Actually think that Trump has successfully used twitter to, in effect, carpet bomb his opponents and control the discussion. For over two years there has been shock and outrage over his twitter comments — and he is now in the White House.

    If there is a basis behind his wiretapping claim, then he is going to come out of this in a stronger position.

    Can you positively confirm that Trump was not wiretapped, and that Trump is absolutely wrong?

  412. Mr.Vito says:

    Has Robbie figured out what part of the article he disputes yet?

  413. Mr.Vito says:

    Has he given a reason why the FISA request was uncharacteristically rejected when it named Trump and then granted without his name if he is so sure it means Trump has done something wrong?

  414. Mr.Vito says:

    My guess is no, and he has spouted whatever Schumer, CNN, and the NYT reporters takes were on it.

  415. Wes says:

    The guy who outright lied about what I said or distorted it is impugning how I debate.

    That’s droll.

    Explain to me how detailing documented history while stating Lincoln had some influence on the end of slavery but wasn’t the final arbiter of it is claiming Lincoln was just sitting around one day while the 13th Amendment was going through the ratification process, O Sanctimonius and Ill-Informed One.

    Do tell.

  416. Phil says:

    Was Trump’s campaign wiretapped?

    Yes or No?

  417. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 5:43 pm
    Has Robbie figured out what part of the article he disputes yet?

    – Here’s what I believe. Trump was very likely not, specifically, wiretapped, is prone to believe conspiratorial viewpoints, and badly damaged himself politically with his Breitbart inspired tweets yesterday.

    Here’s what I don’t believe. I don’t believe Trump’s campaign colluded with the Russians in any way. Carter Page, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort hardly strike as the types to be swept up by Russian agents.

    I also don’t believe Trump’s Twitter feed is a stroke of political master strategy. He tweets what he wants and when he wants. There is no rhyme or reason. As stories noted the last two days, none of his staff had any idea Trump was going to launch a tweet storm about such a highly explosive topic. And his staff’s reticence to discuss the subject, as evidenced by Spicer’s comments today, suggests they know this topic is trouble.

  418. Mr.Vito says:

    Clapper perjured himself over surveillance activity once already… who knows whether what he says is true or not.

  419. Mr.Vito says:

    Yep, Robbie still hasn’t figured out what he disputes about it. We are talking about a President seeking FISA wiretaps (denied) on his desired successor’s political opponent… but he wants to talk about twitter.

  420. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 5:46 pm
    Has he given a reason why the FISA request was uncharacteristically rejected when it named Trump and then granted without his name if he is so sure it means Trump has done something wrong?

    – This comment is treated as fact by many, but where is the proof any of this happened? Where is the evidence the FISA court rejected one request but not another? In fact, Clapper said this morning there was no wiretap and Comney has asked the DOJ to shoot down Trump’s claims.

  421. Mr.Vito says:

    No less… while his AG is seen meeting in secret with said successor’s husband amid her own investigation that she got off scot-free for actual crimes.

  422. Mr.Vito says:

    “Where is the evidence the FISA court rejected one request but not another?”

    Are you disputing that the administration sought wiretaps against Trump under FISA?

    Yes or no.

  423. Robbie says:

    Mr. Vito

    If you want specific answers from me, ask specific questions. I’m not going to try and use psychic powers to try and deduce what your issues are.

  424. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – When you dismissed slavery by describing it as merely “wrong” you diminished yourself. You chose that word. Don’t whine when I remind you of your choice. Saying Lincoln only had “some influence” is laughable.

  425. Mr.Vito says:

    435 LOL. I have asked multiple specific question over two days… you’ve sidestepped them all.

  426. Mr.Vito says:

    Are NYT, HeatStreet, National Review, and the Guardian lying about their sources or not?

    You believe every journalist nd source you’ve ever heard from when it supports what you want.

    If you are calling someone a liar then say so. Stop hiding behind Levin and Breitbart, since they are not the sources of the information.

  427. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 5:59 pm
    “Where is the evidence the FISA court rejected one request but not another?”

    Are you disputing that the administration sought wiretaps against Trump under FISA?

    Yes or no.

    – Honestly, I have no idea. Stories have suggested that FISA warrants were obtained for a server in Trump Tower, but I have seen nothing official that says it actually happened or that Trump, personally, was wiretapped. Comey apparently wants the DOJ to shoot down Trump’s claims.

    So which is it? Did Trump’s campaign or Trump, personally, get wiretapped? That seems to be a key point here. My guess is a FISA warrant was obtained for a server, but not for Trump personally. That said, I’m basing that view on a NYT story. But then again, I thought it was wrong to believe the NYT.

    Was Trump conflating a possible wiretap on his server with him personally?

  428. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:01 pm
    435 LOL. I have asked multiple specific question over two days… you’ve sidestepped them all.

    – No, you have not. You simply read my comments and then say I’m sidestepping what you believe to be the central issue. That said, I have no idea what you believe to be the key points. So why not lay out your view concisely.

  429. Phil says:

    Again, is there a question about whether Trump’s campaign was wiretapped or not?

    I can’t tell from all noise whether there is in fact a dispute over whether or not there was n actual tapping.

  430. Mr.Vito says:

    “Are NYT, HeatStreet, National Review, and the Guardian lying about their sources or not?”

    “But then again, I thought it was wrong to believe the NYT.”

    LOL

  431. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Obama was wiretapping Trump in order to read the DNC’s e-mails. Or the Russians wiretapped Trump to read Obama’s e-mails to Hillary about Bernie Sanders. Or not.

  432. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:08 pm
    Again, is there a question about whether Trump’s campaign was wiretapped or not?

    I can’t tell from all noise whether there is in fact a dispute over whether or not there was n actual tapping.

    – This is where I am. I’m not sure if he was wiretapped, if parts of his campaign were wiretapped, if both were, or if none were.

  433. Phil says:

    Seems that is the sixty four thousand dollar question…

  434. Mr.Vito says:

    “No, you have not.”

    Robbie can’t read ten sourced points and figure out which one and/or source he disputes.

  435. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:08 pm
    “Are NYT, HeatStreet, National Review, and the Guardian lying about their sources or not?”

    “But then again, I thought it was wrong to believe the NYT.”

    LOL

    – Again, here’s the problem. The story a FISA warrant was initially rejected and then another was granted is treated as fact, but Clapper and Comey say it didn’t happen.

    The issue, as Phil noted, is very cloudy and it’s a big reason why it was such a mistake for Trump to tweet about the topic before he had talked with his own DOJ.

  436. Mr.Vito says:

    So is it the HeatStreet story you call into question?

    or do you not know because you still did look into any of it?

  437. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:16 pm
    “No, you have not.”

    Robbie can’t read ten sourced points and figure out which one and/or source he disputes.

    – I’m not playing this game with you anymore.

    I think the reporting in all of these stories is confused because we don’t know the basic, underlying premise. Was Trump, his campaign, or a server at Trump Tower wiretapped.

    All of these stories operate on the premise of the original HeatStreet story, but is it correct? I don’t know. Comey wants the DOJ to knock down the idea. If he’s right, then the whole house of cards crumbles.

    As Phil noted, there is a lot of noise on this subject and it’s still up in the air who or what, if anything, was wiretapped. And it’s for this reason I think it was blunder to tweet about before consulting his own government agencies.

  438. Tina says:

    The fisa request coukd have come from the ag. Clapper and comey would not necessarily have known.

  439. Tina says:

    As Phil noted, there is a lot of noise on this subject and it’s still up in the air who or what, if anything, was wiretapped. And it’s for this reason I think it was blunder to tweet about before consulting his own government agencies.

    The last sentence is pure macaca.

  440. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:20 pm
    So is it the HeatStreet story you call into question?

    or do you not know because you still did look into any of it?

    – I read the story last November when it came out because I follow people who tweeted about it. I also reread it yesterday as well. I do not know if it is correct and much of the subsequent reporting seems to be premised on that story.

  441. Trump says:

    How does the retard know what Comy wants?

  442. Tina says:

    And clapper has commited oerjury so his hinesty is questionable. In some cases, the president coukd have wiretapped without goinf to the court.

  443. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    439. “– Honestly, I have no idea.”

    Great answer, and leave it at that. Everything else is a “what if” or an assumption of some sort.

    Trump may have independent information he was wiretapped, and called for an investigation. Lets see how it turns out.

  444. Tina says:

    And notice hillarys late tweet in october. She was clearly tipped off to the warrant.

  445. Trump says:

    Clapper is a proven liar, so is Comey.

    You really are a fuc&sing retard, Robbie.

    Go fantasize about brokered convention.

  446. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:23 pm
    The fisa request coukd have come from the ag. Clapper and comey would not necessarily have known.

    – Except for the fact the FBI is the group that conducts counter intelligence in this country since 2008 and would be the one tasked to implement a DOJ obtained FISA warrant.

  447. Tina says:

    Incorrect, try again.

  448. Tina says:

    It coukd lie with the ag re writng it. Very plausible given her background.

  449. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:26 pm
    439. “– Honestly, I have no idea.”

    Trump may have independent information he was wiretapped, and called for an investigation. Lets see how it turns out.

    – Except Trump’s senior staff have told anyone willing to listen these last two days, including Jake Tapper, the genesis of Trump’s tweets was the Breitbart story and not information from any of the government agencies.

  450. Trump says:

    For someone who now says he has no idea, this fuc&red up retarded monkey sure types a lot.

    Why don’t you just shut up about things you don’t know, fuc$tard?

    Instead of regurgitating fake news from cnn and nbc?

  451. lisab says:

    “My guess is a FISA warrant was obtained for a server, but not for Trump personally.”

    a startling admission by robbie

    if true

    people will go to prison …

    very high level people

  452. Trump says:

    Why should anyone believe joke tapper?

  453. Mr.Vito says:

    “All of these stories operate on the premise of the original HeatStreet story, but is it correct? I don’t know”

    TA DA!! See, Robbie knew all along where the allegations were sourced from.

    It is their sources in counter-intelligence he is disputing.

  454. Tina says:

    Remeber the ibumbler did not care much for comey and clapper could not have fingerprints.

    Here is what a bush official i dicated

    I think he’s right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general – at the Justice Department through the FISA court.”

  455. Trump says:

    Who asked for fisa warrant and why?

    What did Obama know, and when?

    See, now we are not talking about Trump and the Russians, right?

  456. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:29 pm
    “My guess is a FISA warrant was obtained for a server, but not for Trump personally.”

    a startling admission by robbie

    if true

    people will go to prison …

    very high level people

    – If a FISA court approved the warrant, no one will go to jail.

  457. Tina says:

    The jebot is so unhinged and idiotic. The ag likely re wrote the warrant and removed trumps name altogether. It is rare for a court to reject the request to begin with.

  458. Trump says:

    Yes they will.

    As usual, with everything, you don’t know anything.

    Go play with brokered conventions. Retarded monkey.

  459. Tina says:

    The obumbler appears to have labeled the information on trump as low level classsification, so that it could be widely shared. If it eas low level, them the imformation had to be destroyed. However, it was not and it was disseminated widely. Aka leaked.

    This violates fisa law.

    So, folks can go to jail.

  460. Tina says:

    Hillarys tweet is one week before the election. This makes sense. It makes sense because of bj and the ag meeting.

    So, it coukd be that clapper and comedy were not aware of the fisa request since the ag coukd have directed it herself.

  461. Wobbles says:

    Why should anyone believe joke tapper?”

    I believe everything I read in the MSM.

    Doesn’t everybody?

  462. Phil says:

    I am inclined to believe the tap happened. Hard for me to imagine Trump making that accusation public without knowing whether or not it actually happened. That would be handing a loaded gun to the Democrats and the media if it turned out to be crap. Trump is loud and says things on impulse sometimes, but he didn’t get where he is by being stupid.

    On the other hand, not hard to imagine the Obama Administration actually doing it. One, they didn’t imagine Trump winning and becoming President so who would tell? President Hillary?

  463. Bitterlaw says:

    Why should anybody believe anybody who doesn’t believe Jake Tapper? Sorry I don’t have the Dun Dunn Dunnn link on the iPad.

  464. Wes says:

    You obviously know nothing about the Constitution, Lincoln’s presidency, the Republican members of Congress from 1857 to 1865, the antebellum and Civil War periods, the amendment process to the Constitution, or American history in general to give Lincoln 100% credit for ending slavery as you do, Bitter. (I noticed you refuted none of my statements but tried to impeach my credibility to bolster your weak arguments.)

    Then again when Author said Harry Reid was the worst Senate Majority Leader ever, you countered by saying there were worse leaders in the antebellum period, thus indicating your complete and utter lack of knowledge of American history.

  465. Tina says:

    wire·tap·ping
    ?w?(?)r?tapiNG/
    noun
    the practice of connecting a listening device to a telephone line to secretly monitor a conversation.

    Hacking woukd be monitoring a server.

  466. lisab says:

    “– If a FISA court approved the warrant, no one will go to jail.

    that is a dem talking point

    if they knowingly tapped trump’s server,

    someone will go to prison.

    the only question will be if the person who asked for the warrant will flip on a bigger fish

    and

    fed sentences don’t give you 50% off for good behavior.

    if you think they hacked his server, your friends are screwed

  467. Tina says:

    Wait a tick…. didn’t the FBI tell Preibus they found no evidence of Russian collusion? Then Preibus asked Comey, et al., to come out publicly and they refused? How does the FBI make that claim without surveillance/investigation?

    Yeah a solid,point.

  468. Proud Obamacon says:

    474 “I am inclined to believe the tap happened. Hard for me to imagine Trump making that accusation public without knowing whether or not it actually happened. That would be handing a loaded gun to the Democrats and the media if it turned out to be crap. Trump is loud and says things on impulse sometimes, but he didn’t get where he is by being stupid.”

    LOL.. The Pussy Grabber read about it on Breitbart!!! That’s all that matters. Keep going, Mr. President. Damn this popcorn can’t pop fast enough LOLLL

    Not.My.President

  469. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 6:32 pm
    The jebot is so unhinged and idiotic. The ag likely re wrote the warrant and removed trumps name altogether. It is rare for a court to reject the request to begin with.

    – Tina makes the mistake of assuming the wiretaps or electronic surveillance actually happened. Right now, there’s been no confirmation from anyone that’s the case. Lots of people seem to think it happened, but the DOJ and FBI have not confirmed it. In fact, Comey wants the DOJ to dismiss the claims Trump got from Breitbart.

    And again, it’s the fact there has been no confirmation of the wiretaps or electronic surveillance that makes Trump’s decision to tweet this so odd. If he’s proven wrong, his entire presidency could be crippled.

  470. Tina says:

    ZERO on-the-record confirmations of this. Note the language throughout the article:

    “It is not clear why Mr. Comey did not issue the statement himself.”

    “A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment.”

    “Sarah Isgur Flores, the spokeswoman for the Justice Department, also declined to comment.”

    ” . . senior American officials said on Sunday.”

    Yes, thinly sourced or more fake news.

  471. Robbie says:

    Given how far out on a limb Trump has gone with his wiretap claims, Comey should lay out in public everything the FBI has learned. Until they do so, this mishmash of claims and counterclaims will continue.

  472. Tina says:

    Why doesnt Comey reject the claim outright? He can speak, or is he mute?

  473. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:14 pm
    ZERO on-the-record confirmations of this. Note the language throughout the article:

    “It is not clear why Mr. Comey did not issue the statement himself.”

    “A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment.”

    “Sarah Isgur Flores, the spokeswoman for the Justice Department, also declined to comment.”

    ” . . senior American officials said on Sunday.”

    Yes, thinly sourced or more fake news.

    – And yet the stories you feel confirm wiretapping were also made with zero on the record confirmations.

  474. Tina says:

    It is oretty clear that something occured. Wiretapping it is not by definition. More of a hack. And why woukd hillary make that tweet in late october about computer scientistis discovered a server in trump tower communicating with the russians.

  475. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:16 pm
    Why doesnt Comey reject the claim outright? He can speak, or is he mute?

    – He went against long held traditions of the FBI not to comment when he discussed the Clinton case last Summer. He took a lot of in-house blowback over that and is under pressure to maintain the FBI SOP of not commenting on investigations.

    My guess is someone will have to make a statement in the very near future because the charges Trump, the president, has made are too explosive to just leave hanging.

  476. Tina says:

    Trump will win. He either gets the media to retract themselves and admit to creating fake news or he gets the leakers to out themselves or he gets Obama directly.

    Winning and more winning.

  477. lisab says:

    “Comey should lay out in public everything the FBI has learned.”

    if it was done by the fbi, comey would be on the hook

    he isn’t laying out anything.

  478. Trump says:

    How would Comey know what the NSA was doing?

  479. Trump says:

    And the FBI does not do fisa warrants.

  480. Trump says:

    FBI, in case you forget, is domestic. Not foreign intelligence. FBI wouldn’t be going to fisa court for a warrant.

  481. Robbie says:

    Several media outlets suggested a server in Trump Tower was surveilled. It’s Trump who suggested he was wiretapped. If the outlets who suggested a server was surveilled retracted their stories, how does that make Trump a winner. He’s the one who said he was personally wiretapped, not these outlets. He would still be on the hook for the claims he made that Obama wiretapped him.

  482. Robbie says:

    The FBI, as of 2008, conducts counter intelligence. Michael Mukasey, who was GWB’s last AG, was on ABC today and said that very thing.

  483. Phil says:

    492

    Exactly.

    Oh, and PO, GFY

    Things still looking promising in Arizona and Georgia for Hillary? How about Texas? Your blue wall still holding? Keep it up, genius.

  484. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:28 pm
    How would Comey know what the NSA was doing?

    – There’s the rub. The discussion this afternoon has been about DOJ and the FBI. The NSA is a totally different beast and no one knows what they’re doing. If there was surveillance of Trump or anything around him, it could have been from NSA.

  485. Proud Obamacon says:

    #496 Phil, such a looosah keeps talking about the past and refuses to defend his hero in the present day. LOL don’t blame ya.. go back to Brietbart and your alternative fact world looosah.

    WORST.ADMIN.EVAHHHHH

  486. Tina says:

    Wiretap is in quotes by the way.

  487. Tina says:

    Senior American officials” claim Comey said this. We do not have a direct quote from CoMedy.

  488. Tina says:

    Thus ny times article about comedy sounds fake

  489. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:45 pm
    Senior American officials” claim Comey said this. We do not have a direct quote from CoMedy.

    – And yet you take reports that some form of wiretapping took place as gospel truth even though there are no on the record sources.

  490. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:46 pm
    Thus ny times article about comedy sounds fake

    – So they can’t use off the record comments, but stories that paint Trump in a good light can? The entire case that Trump was wiretapped comes from off the record sources.

  491. Wobbles says:

    that is a dem talking point”

    It’s what I do.

  492. Tina says:

    Zzzzzz

  493. Proud Obamacon says:

    Where’s Phil? Back worshiping his Orange Dictator and catching up on the “news” at the State run media Brietbart and Fox?

  494. Tina says:

    Comedy can make those points, but has chosen not to. Why?

  495. jason says:

    looosah”

    Proud Obamacon is back?

    How did your prediction that Hillary had locked down AZ and was going to make a play for Texas work out.

    Obamacon: biggest loosah at HHR.

  496. Trump says:

    Go f Hillary, PO.

    Not anyone’s president.

  497. jason says:

    Poor ObamaCON.

    His dream of a Marxist America might have to be put off a few years.

    So sad.

  498. jason says:

    I’m sorry ObamaCON but your wingman Robbie is already here to repeat all the Dem talking points.

    But look, there are other sites you can go to, maybe they haven’t read them yet.

  499. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason’s another looosah who wants to talk about the past. Go ahead, it must be tough defending your pussy grabbing buddy these days LOLLLLL.

    But hey, good to know you are a supporter of authoritarians, destroying checks/balances, attacking the first amendment, and establishing a state run media. Good to know!

    Phil and Jason perfect together. They were sooo scared that Obama was going to destroy Democracy and they are perfectly fine with The Orange Groper actually destroying Democracy, and hell they support it !

    Worst.Admin.Evahhhhhh

  500. Trump says:

    Best admin ever.

    Sucks to be the biggest loser in the history of mankind, PO?

    What happened to the Hillary WH drape measurements?

  501. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:53 pm
    Comedy can make those points, but has chosen not to. Why?

    – The FBI SOP is not comment on investigations. Comey went against that practice last Summer when he commented on Hillary and received blowback from with the FBI for doing it.

    I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, but Trump has lobbed such an explosive charge into the public my guess is someone of authority in the DOJ or FBI will have to comment.

  502. Trump says:

    Water board Obama.

    The puss$ will squeal.

  503. Tina says:

    Bs, he can comment, but faux i dicates that the ny times is wtomg. Comedy has now i dicated thst the wiretsp did not originate with the fbi.

  504. Tina says:

    If there is no wiretap, there is no investigation. Fbi is not investigating anything. So, your comment is not applicable.

    In short, comedy, himself, can speak.

  505. Tina says:

    Figured the ny times article about comedy was poorly sourced and fake news.

  506. lisab says:

    hacking a computer is the same as a wiretap under federal law

  507. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 5, 2017 at 8:06 pm
    If there is no wiretap, there is no investigation. Fbi is not investigating anything. So, your comment is not applicable.

    In short, comedy, himself, can speak.

    – Not true. As former AG Mike Mukasey said today on ABC, the FBI also conducts counter intelligence work. All of this could the result of counter intelligence operation and not an investigation of Trump or those around him. In fact, that’s what Mukasey thinks is happening, a counter intelligence operation by the FBI.

  508. Tina says:

    “The most important Clapper revelation from “Meet the Press” was this: He emphatically told Todd the Obama intelligence agencies found “no evidence” of collusion between Trump’s campaign and the Russians. Nothing. Nada”

    And how woukd clapper know this?

  509. Tina says:

    There is no investigation or operation.

  510. Proud Obamacon says:

    Trump the poster also living in the past. Why no complaints about attacking judges, issuing authoritarian executive orders. attacking freedom of the press? Why oh why? Whyyyyyy?

    LOL

    Trump, Phil, and Jason fully supportive of the destruction of democracy and coronating of Dictator Orange Pussy

  511. Tina says:

    Comedy is reported as now saying that the wiretaps did not originate from the fbi.

    Ny slimes wrong?

  512. Phil says:

    zzzzzzzzz

  513. Proud Obamacon says:

    “zzzzzzzzz”

    Exactly, sleeping while the Dictator wanna-be destroys Democracy. Sad!

    LOL

  514. lisab says:

    if they hacked his server, for any reason, they will be in violation of the federal wiretap act

    and some will go to jail.

    they will start with the IT geek who actually did the hack, and he/she will roll over immediately. no geek is going to prison for the government.

    then they just climb the chain of command until someone says, comey or loretta lynch or someone in the white house

    if they hacked the server — robbie’s friends are in trouble

  515. lisab says:

    however, it is not clear if anyone did

    which is the only defense the obama admin has.

  516. lisab says:

    “Comedy is reported as now saying that the wiretaps did not originate from the fbi.”

    he would be the fall guy if it was the fbi

    after torpedoing hillary, he would get no mercy from either side.

    so he better be right

  517. Ron N says:

    The media wants its both ways its ok to say that there was no wire tape of trump because they say. But the same media is upset that the FBI said there was no evidence of collusion I don’t understand unless they want one story to go on and the other one to stop

  518. Trump says:

    PO is triggered that trump is making America great again.

    Go stand with Hillary, looosaaah. She can’t stand on her own anyway, that sack of potatoes.

  519. Proud Obamacon says:

    Is America Great Again yet? Is it??

  520. Trump says:

    Yes it is.

    Hillary is not president.

    Looosaaah.

  521. Trump says:

    Everything else is gravy.

    Looooosaaaah.

  522. jason says:

    It’s certainly greater than with the glorified community organizer.

  523. jason says:

    Hey, some sex on the Walking Dead.

    Interracial no less….

  524. jason says:

    Funny how Proud ObamaCON never once worried about Democracy when Obama was taking huge liberties with it as President. When Obama was destroying the Constitution, the liberals said it was an obsolete document. When Obama was ruling by decree, it was ok because the ends justified the means. When Hillary, the most ethically challenged candidate in History was nominated, no problem, who cares.

    What is good for the goose is not good for the gander I guess.

  525. lisab says:

    The media wants its both ways its ok to say that there was no wire tape of trump because they say.
    —————————-

    because if they get it wrong

    and there was a hack and they say there wasn’t

    it will blow up even worse

  526. Proud Obamacon says:

    Funny how Jason and Phil were so worried when they thought Obama was destroying the Constitution but are silent when Trump is doing the same thing!!!!

    LOOOOSAHssssss

  527. jason says:

    And of course I was at least honest about my feelings about my party’s nominee.

    Proud ObamaCON never had a problem with a crook as President married to a sexual predator who was disbarred and impeached.

    But now he is worried that Trump is “destroying Democracy”.

    You have to admire the chutzpah.

  528. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason still talking about the past and is silent as the Pussy Grabber destroys the Constitution. Yes I’m worried, but Jason is not. He must like dictators and gropers. Looooooooooosah.

  529. jason says:

    When Trump destroys the Constitution I will have plenty to say about it.

    I was never shy about being critical of Trump.

  530. Proud Obamacon says:

    Remember when Obama was an “Imperial” president for his EOs?

    Well Pussy Grabbers issues more EOs in the first two weeks of his presidency. More than any president ever.

    Jason? Phil? …. silence. Loosahs!

  531. jason says:

    Rick almost died.

    There are more important things than Trump.

  532. Mr.Vito says:

    If Trump colluded with the Russians, I want to know.

    The author of the HeatStreet article is no friend of Trump. If you read the article you can see that.

    She supported Hillary, appeared in wikileaks, and kept pumping up Evan McMullin on HeatStreet. I remember that when it came out.

    Of course, McMullin is ex-CIA…

    One of her sources?

  533. Proud Obamacon says:

    “When Trump destroys the Constitution I will have plenty to say about it.”

    Why not say anything while he’s in the process of destroying? Why wait until its destroyed? Well? Idiotttttttt

  534. jason says:

    Hey, weren’t EO’s ok with you when Obama was issuing them?

    Enjoy…..

    And enjoy the 100 federal judges Trump will be appointing so in the future it won’t be so easy for Democrats to have judges legislating from the bench and signing off on their illegal EO’s.

  535. jason says:

    I have no problem with what Trump has done so far, nothing unconstitutional anyway.

    GFY.

  536. Proud Obamacon says:

    “When Trump destroys the Constitution”

    When? Not “if”. Hmmmm well Jason and Phil will still support Trump no matter what, even if they know he will destroy the Constitution. Sad!

  537. Proud Obamacon says:

    EOs weren’t ok with you. Now they are?

  538. Mr.Vito says:

    Charles/Obamacon is a fake poster. Why bother?

  539. jason says:

    Trump has done nothing to destroy the Constitution, I will let you know when he does.

    Why don’t you just stop whining that your really horrible candidate lost.

    That’s what it is all about anyway, you don’t giving a flying f-ck about the Constitution, and neither do your fellow moonbats. Everyone knows that.

  540. Bitterlaw says:

    Hey, Rick! Did you forget that Negan expects some stuff? Go back to Alexandria.

  541. jason says:

    EOs weren’t ok with you. Now they are?”

    I never said I was against all EO’s. I was against governing by EO’s like Obama did just to bypass Congress on a permanent basis. Obama decimated the Democratic ranks but still thought he had a mandate.

    If Trump tries to push through immigration reform by EO, I will oppose it. If he tries to implement his trade policies solely by EO, I will oppose it.

  542. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “Chicago goes 6 days without homicide for first time since 2012…”

    Mayor Emanuel blames global warming…urges Chicago gangs to get busy, daylight’s burning.

  543. Mr.Vito says:

    “Rick almost died.”

    Rick can’t die. He actually died when he got shot on the first day.

  544. Proud Obamacon says:

    I could give a chit about Hillary, but you still seem obsessed. I wonder why? You’re the one that cares nothing about the Constitution supporting the wanna-be dictator. Everyone knows that.

    Making America Great Again killing one Sikh at a time! HEIL TRUMPP

  545. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. Michonne is thinking about the future. Kiss of death on this show.

  546. jason says:

    Don’t worry ObamaCON.

    Your dream of a Marxist America will probably still happen.

    Might just take awhile longer.

  547. jason says:

    Ah yes, Trump is responsible for every kook in America.

    But cops can be shot at will, where is the outrage?

  548. jason says:

    I can’t argue with a moron like ObamaCON.

    Talking Dead is on.

  549. Proud Obamacon says:

    Hey, Obama was responsible for every cop shooting. Two can play this game, pal!

  550. Proud Obamacon says:

    That’s what I thought, put your tail between your legs and get lost punk. Lightweight.

  551. Wes says:

    Proud Obamacon goes Godwin’s Law on us.

    Predictable.

  552. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    535.“Chicago goes 6 days without homicide for first time since 2012…”

    How impressive. In 2016 Chicago had 766 gun-related murders. Chicago has strict gun control laws to prevent gun violence. In gun-crazy Utah, where guns are everywhere, there were only 35 gun related murders in 2016. Utah has more people than the city of Chicago.

  553. Trump says:

    PO is mad that his race- baiting affirmative action goon is no longer in power.

  554. Proud Obamacon says:

    Trump happy that his pussy grabbing hero hell bent on destroying the Constitution is in power. HEIL TRUMP!

  555. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    543. Remember when Obama was an “Imperial” president for his EOs? (Trump) issues more EOs in the first two weeks of his presidency. More than any president ever.”

    Many of Trump’s EOs overturn those of Obama. Personally, I dislike EOs and felt Obama was acting incorrectly in using them to legislate policy. But the Democrats went along with it happily; so now would be hypocrites to complain.

    What should have happened several years ago was that both Democrats and Republicans should have opposed Obama’s executive orders, and told him to respect the prerogative of Congress to pass legislation. Executive rule-making by both parties has gotten out of hand.

  556. Trump says:

    Loooosaaahs like you don’t set the narrative, pond-scum.

  557. Trump says:

    Go cry to mama, weasel. Maybe Hillary can wipe your tears, scum bag.

  558. Proud Obamacon says:

    SD its the Repubicans who are the hypocrites. Obama’s EOs were the end of the Republic, but silence on Groper’s EOs. That’s the definition of hypocrisy dude!

  559. Proud Obamacon says:

    ‘Maybe Hillary can wipe your tears,’

    Still obsessed with Hillary I see. Looosah

  560. Trump says:

    Until trump signs an EO to put Hillary and Obama in jail, he has not done his job.

  561. Cash Cow TM says:

    This:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump

    and then THIS:

    “…This scandal cries out for aggressive investigation. Let’s see the initial FISA application, and the court order denying it. Then let’s see the second application, and the order that approved it. Let’s put the Obama administration officials who signed the applications under oath, and find out who put them up to it. Let’s find out what judges denied the first application, and what judges granted the second one. Let’s get the details on the Obama administration’s spying. Did they tap the Trump campaign’s telephones? If so, which lines? Did they hack into the Trump campaign’s servers? If so, which ones?”

    “Obviously, as President Trump said, the Obama administration learned nothing of significance from its spying on the Trump campaign. But it now appears that the election of 2016 may have been hacked after all, in a far more meaningful way than an intrusion into Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s email account. It may have been hacked by the Obama administration. We need to find out what happened. Congress should give top priority to this investigation.”

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/the-associated-press-springs-to-obamas-defense.php
    ******************************

    I see more than 18 minutes erased from some white house tape.

    “I see dead people…”

  562. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Until trump signs an EO to put Hillary and Obama in jail, he has not done his job.”

    Not even hiding your desire for a dictatorship. HEIL TRUMP! F*CK YEAH!

  563. Cash Cow TM says:

    Mebby DJT ought to issue an EO to appoint a “Wire Tap Czar” who will be charged with investigating the ins and outs of who, what, where, when, why on the taps on Trump.

  564. Trump says:

    Hillary will look great in a pinstripe. More slimming.

  565. Trump says:

    A pen and a phone.

    Have you forgotten, scum bag?

  566. Trump says:

    Your tears are my joy, racist pig.

  567. Robbie says:

    Politico has a tough piece on Reince Priebus tonight. As the story’s title notes, the long knives appear to be out for him. I have no idea whether he deserves the harsh treatment in the story or not, but I’m all for a CoS who can reign in Trump’s worst habits like Twitter. If he gave up Twitter for Lent, his approval rating would be approaching 50% by Easter.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-reince-priebus-white-house-235703

  568. Trump says:

    Here comes the as-hat with another of his stupid advices.

    Moron, Trump without Twitter is Jeb.

    And even Jeb hates himself.

  569. Trump says:

    Why don’t you jerk off on brokered convention, Jeb coc$sucker?

  570. Trump says:

    Fake news, coc$sucker.

  571. lisab says:

    more fake news from robbie i see

  572. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, in real world, trump spends his weekend having a grand party at his mar a lago resort.

  573. Bitterlaw says:

    Naked and afraid is back. Spoiler alert – They are naked but seem pretty calm so far.

  574. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    571. My feeling is the first thing Trump should have done, day one, was repeal every one of Obama’s executive orders, and withdrawn from the Paris Climate Accord, which was a treaty that Congress needed to approve.

  575. Trump says:

    See, trump is thoughtful and nice.

  576. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. There is a big cat in the jungle.

  577. Proud Obamacon says:

    Meanwhile in the real world, Republicans who couldn’t stand Obama taking any vacations are silent when the Groper once again goes off to Mar A Lago… HYPOCRISY AT ITS FINEST! LOL

  578. Trump says:

    Karma is a Bit-h, pond scum PO.

  579. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    March 5, 2017 at 10:41 pm
    more fake news from robbie i see

    – I see you’re still stuck in the echo chamber where everything is fine.

  580. Bitterlaw says:

    No Huffpo and WaPO articles, Robbie? Slow day.

  581. Proud Obamacon says:

    yeah karma is a b*tch, yall been exposed as hypocrites!

  582. Trump says:

    You are stuck in a world where Jeb is king, coc$sucker.

    posting fake news from bezoar and slim.

    Regale us either the brokered convention masturbation, scum bag.

  583. Trump says:

    I am not a republican, racist scum pig PO.

  584. Phil says:

    Knock it off, Robbie. What the hell is wrong with you? Is there a NYT, Washington Post, CNN anti Trump source you won’t link to?

    You do realize these are not straight down the middle news sources. Right? Nothing but anti Trump, leftist news organs intent on taking down another Republican. Good Lord, man. For God sakes, everyone knows the obvious agenda.

    I suppose you’ll next start throwing links to The View.

  585. Trump says:

    Don’t forget politico, Huffington post and vox.

    Robbie the Jeb sucker needs to cover the entire fake news spectrum.

  586. Trump says:

    I bet the retarded monkey is busy scouring Soros.

  587. Proud Obamacon says:

    Hell yeah, only Brietbart and Fox allowed. State Run Media, yall .. Are we in Pyongyang?

  588. Cash Cow TM says:

    So far today on Facebook, I have learned that:

    –the U.S. detonated 2 megaton atomic bomb on the moon (apparently to wipe out a base inhabited by aliens from somewhere in outer space.

    –practically every food item manufactured in the last 30 years will kill you

    –12 different right wing webnews sites say they have the names of the people responsible for the leaks of the DJT white house, but none of them ever actually released the names but say they will be arrested soon.

    –lots of cute dog and cat pictures and videos

    –lots of pictures and videos of food

  589. Trump says:

    Louder cowbells, PO scum.

  590. Cash Cow TM says:

    Oh, and also on Facebook, the Japanese Fukshima nuclear disaster has poisoned 1/3 the oceans of the world

    and a video of some volcano in Guatemala or somewhere blowing up/erupting.

  591. Proud Obamacon says:

    So when is all free media going to be outlawed? Brietbart and Fox is enough. State run media is all we need. HEIL TRUMP! F*CK YEAH!

  592. Trump says:

    State run media is all we have, PO scum.

    Say hello to Hillary when you stand wth her in jail, racist pig.

  593. Tina says:

    Rotties News Network

    Face news, fake posts.

  594. Trump says:

    Now that serious investigation of Obama and his minions is likely, here’s the start of the walk back from the traitors.

    Chris Coons: l have no hard evidence of collusion between Trump world and the Russians.

    On Friday, this excrement was saying that FBI had transcripts.

  595. Mr.Vito says:

    “Cash Cow TM says:
    March 5, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    This:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump

    National Review is on board with the socks now… we are being heard.

  596. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “611.http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump

    At this point, all this is unsubstantiated.

    Because of the confidential nature of the issues and agencies involved, it was correct of Trump and others to request the matter be investigated by Congress, which would have the ability to examine the confidential information in question.

  597. JC says:

    I’ll trust Trump’s instincts on how to play this.

    Here’s a guy who won the presidency on his first attempt at politics, running against not one but two of the most powerful political dynasties in American history (Bush/Clinton).

    I’ll trust his instincts.

  598. Bitterlaw says:

    I’ll trust Trump’s instincts on how to play this.

    It would help if there were some facts either way regarding the alleged wiretap.

  599. Tina says:

    The point is it needs to be investigated, bl.

    Learly, fbi has reported no russian ties.

  600. Tina says:

    It would be the comgress that would have to look into the obumblers executive branch abuses.

    I do. Ot think the rinos want to go there.

  601. Tina says:

    So, fake tapper works for cnn, really fake news?

  602. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if all of the investigations into the 2016 election will be completed by the 2020 election.

  603. Tina says:

    Hillarys 10/31 tweet is very suspicious. Seems like she was tipped off tomsomething. A good lead that supports obamagate.

  604. Tina says:

    Kac reiterates what i mentioned yesterday.

    Comedy can soeak if he wants to.

  605. Tina says:

    I do fault trump. W made the same mistake keeping on the fbi director and the cia head. They were holdovers.

    You should have fired the holdovers.

  606. JC says:

    @615 Bitterlaw

    “It would help if there were some facts either way regarding the alleged wiretap.”

    =======

    Well, we know that Obama tried to get permission to tap Trump and his associates. When that failed, they went to FISA under the guise of national security. When that failed, they tried again but stripped out Trump’s name.

    There’s enough circumstantial evidence – including the Flynn leaks – that this matter should be investigated.

    But about evidence. Let me ask; where is the evidence that Trump colluded with Russia?

    There isn’t any. Yet that doesn’t stop the story from appearing on the front pages of national newspapers dozens of times with wild, sensational headlines. For four months the media has been pounding this drum, with NO EVIDENCE to back it up. NONE. Yet, it’s somehow front page news every week.

    Now compare that to when Trump claims he was wire tapped – with far more evidence than any russia collusion story. How does the media report it?

    ‘Trump makes wild, unsubstantiated claims!’ I guarantee you, the word ‘unsubstantiated’ has been used more in the wire tap story than in the four months of Trump/russia coverage.

    But that’s fine, because the media is FORCED to cover this now, thanks to Trump’s tweets. They’ll dismiss it of course, try to dissuade people and make Trump look bad. But they still have to cover it, instead of just ignoring damaging stories like they usually do. The headlines are now ‘Obama’ and ‘Wiretap’. That’s what the nation is discussing.

    It’s relieving to finally have someone who fights these Alinski’ite bastards at their own game. I don’t care if the media says Trump is lying. I don’t care if he IS lying. It just means he’s no worse than they are and is willing to fight dirty.

    I’m tired of conservatives playing by the rules while dems lie and cheat and rip us to shreds. I’m tired of the unbelievable double standards and propaganda being waged against us. I’m tired of our side being destroyed by jaywalking while they get away with murder.

  607. Tina says:

    There is no evidence of a y collusion.

    That has been stated by the fbi, media reports, and senator and house members, on both sides of the political aisle.

  608. Bitterlaw says:

    Investigate all of it. My point is that that without investigations producing results, I am not going to say that I trust Trump or the Dems. For most if his life, Trump has been a Democrat. That is not a good starting point for my evaluation of whether to trust him.

  609. Tina says:

    There has been an investigation into trump and russia.

    No connections or ties.

    There has been no investigation of an abuse of the exectuve branch under ovumbler and the leaks.

  610. Tina says:

    So, one cannot claim that an investigation that has not yet begun has produced or not produced any resukts.

  611. Tina says:

    Did former spook Egg McMuffin set up a fake Trump e-mail website to “prove” Russian connections? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3531939/posts

    Again, hope this is false, but egg mcmuffin is rumoured to have passed on the wewe hotel dossier to mcamnesty.

  612. Tina says:

    Gowdy

    Gowdy: Met w/Comey behind closed doors. He stayed more than we had originally planned for. POTUS admin will be able to receive paper trails

  613. Tina says:

    I think lievine relied a bit heavily on media reports, whiich coukd be fake.

    So, either he was wiretapped or not.

    The reports are either wromg or right

  614. Tina says:

    Jt a good summation overall by lievine.

  615. Phil says:

    Agree whole heartedly the Obamacare administration’s wiretapping accusations need to be investigated. Problem is that thanks to Sessions backing out (justice dept has to be the one to appoint a special prosecutor) we now have an Obama holdover in charge of Justice. He is in charge until his replacement is confirmed. Confirmation hearings are schedualled later this week and expect Democrats to drag their feet. No telling when or even if Trump’s nominee will be confirmed. No wonder Trump was furious.

    Trump is in the WH and Democrats have his own Justice Dept bottlenecked. LOL. Republicans continue to be the party of stupid.

  616. NYCmike says:

    “I hope this is not true”

    -Why?

  617. Tina says:

    Yup the party of stupid with mcamnesty and goober running things.

    3 months in and no full cabinet. What is the ky blue rino doing? Trying to keep obumblercare? Yeah that is the ticket.

  618. JC says:

    @629 Interesting

  619. Tina says:

    I like that the investigation will start in the house. I just hope that sheotvetz is not heading it.

  620. lisab says:

    What is the ky blue rino doing? Trying to keep obumblercare?
    ————–

    well … yes

  621. Tina says:

    The 10/31 tweet from hillary memtioning computer scientistis discovering a sever communicating in trump tower with russia is a red flag for me that trump,was illegally targeted.

  622. Tina says:

    She woukd not know that unkess she was tipped off. The meeting between bj and the ag raises more questions.

  623. Tina says:

    Lisab, i wrote many times here years ago that the republicrats woukd not repeal obumblercare because they liked it.

  624. NYCmike says:

    As for the Levin link, all of his sources are public sources, so the veracity of those same sources may be an issue.

    Which is why I listen to Levin, but don’t take his word as “gospel Truth”, which is in contrast to Robbie’s continued posting of links that he breathlessly claims will be bad for Trump and/or Republicans, despite the mounting evidence that they are less trustworthy that any “right-wing” news organizations.

  625. Tina says:

    Donald Trump is making me gain weight. I start the day with liquids, but after the morning news, I eat pancakes smothered in maple syrup!

    Barbra Streisand

    Lol, who is more unhinged, necertrumpers and jebots or her?

  626. Tina says:

    The jebot indicated that he tweeted the wiretap remark without consulting his admi istration. This is from the kos sites.

    That is why the jebots here are weak posters.

  627. Tina says:

    Ny, id that filing formed the basis for a wiretap, then the nsa is really in trouble and needs to be shut down

  628. NYCmike says:

    Robbie should like that Levin video. Levin mentions the NY Times and the WAPO for being responsible for most of his evidence.

  629. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Finally moved into our new house. Moving the cat ended up being the toughest job…….but of course, now she struts around the new place like SHE OWNS IT!

  630. Sheeple Jr says:

    Regardless of who occupies the White House, shouldn’t the Secret Service consider this “media surveillance” a threat?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4284566/Video-emerges-Trump-s-Oval-Office-row-Bannon.html

  631. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 6, 2017 at 10:14 am
    Robbie should like that Levin video. Levin mentions the NY Times and the WAPO for being responsible for most of his evidence.

    – Levin’s little more than a crank. His crazy rantings may have led Trump into a monumental mistake that permanently damages his presidency.

  632. Robbie says:

    Steve Hayes of TWS:

    “White House sources acknowledge that Trump had no idea whether the claims he was making were true when he made them.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/trumps-wiretap-claims-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/article/2007096

  633. Phil says:

    Still waiting on the question of whether or not there was a wiretap.

    That”s the only question that matters up front. All the other noise and speculation is a waste of time unless the answer is yes.

    I am waiting for Trump to say he has evidence. So far he has not. Until he does you cannot expect any congressional Republican to crawl out on a limb for him. I wouldn’t. If he wants Rubio and the rest to back him up he needs to spit out some evidence behind closed doors to his Senate and House Republican members. How hard is that?

  634. Tina says:

    Judicial Watch filing foia requests i to obumblers wiretapping

  635. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Levin took articles written in the the newspaper as evidence (with dates included, so they can be checked).

    You take “White House sources” to back up your “worries”, and those can’t be checked.

    Yet, you claim Levin is “a crank”.

    What does that make you – the “cracked pot”?

  636. Tina says:

    The jebot loved levine when levine wanted cruz.

  637. NYCmike says:

    “His crazy rantings may have led Trump into a monumental mistake that permanently damages his presidency.”

    -How does this “permanently damages his Presidency”?

  638. Bitterlaw says:

    Finally moved into our new house. Moving the cat ended up being the toughest job…….but of course, now she struts around the new place like SHE OWNS IT!

    She does own it. You are her tenant. Enjoy the new place. Are you still in Brooklyn or do you need to change your handle to SuburbanMike?

  639. Phil says:

    Yeah, Hayes saying the WH sources saying Trump has no idea whether the accusations are true is not encouraging. Hayes is as far from a Democratic hack as you can get.

    I am still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt on this simply because I refuse to believe he would be stupid enough to make the accusation based on nothing.

  640. Tina says:

    Levines rantings are a review of documents from different newspapers, such as thr ny times. Are we now saying that those articles are fake?

  641. Robbie says:

    Here’s a good reason to be skeptical of HeatStreet’s story by Louise Mensch.

    “Mensch sees the Trump-Russia story as part of a much broader conspiracy, as she later made clear in a Twitter exchange with National Review online editor Charles Cooke on February 24, 2017. “I absolutely believe that Andrew Breitbart was murdered by Putin, just as the founder of RT was murdered by Putin,” Mensch tweeted.”

  642. NYCmike says:

    Still in Brooklyn.

    Wife wouldn’t let me escape – glad she made that choice, except for the commute, but audio books work fine.

  643. NYCmike says:

    The new house has a nice sliding door out to patio in backyard. The cat has been watching her new neighbors intensely! Funny how she acts at night when shadows start appearing.

  644. Mr.Vito says:

    I already commented on Mensch. She is in Podestas wikileaks dump.

    “The author of the HeatStreet article is no friend of Trump. If you read the article you can see that.

    She supported Hillary, appeared in wikileaks, and kept pumping up Evan McMullin on HeatStreet. I remember that when it came out.

    Of course, McMullin is ex-CIA…

    One of her sources?”

  645. Sheeple Jr says:

    Robbie- Levin may be what you think, but it is hard to argue that his chronology of events in the alleged ObamaTap scandal, all taken from liberal media sources, is well presented and argued.

    Do you have any thoughts on the Obama Administration’s other surveillance scandals such as AP, James Rosen,Merkel, Senate Intelligence Committee etc,? At worse, these past transgressions are circumstantial evidence to Trump’s thinking.

  646. Mr.Vito says:

    So the central figure in the wiretap story is connected to Clinton and Mcmullin…

  647. NYCmike says:

    “Here’s a good reason to be skeptical”

    Robbie,

    What don’t you get?

    I am skeptical of ALL this BS, ALL of these politicians, ALL of “reports” and “sources” out of D.C., or any other government town (e.g. Albany, Trenton).

    You are the one going around linking tweets, sources, reports, etc.

  648. Tina says:

    Mensch is a loon

  649. NYCmike says:

    “Mensch is a loon”

    -She should be happy she isn’t a llama…..jason would have “sniffed” her out already.

  650. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 6, 2017 at 10:31 am
    The jebot loved levine when levine wanted cruz.

    Not true. I’ve never had anything good to say about Levin. But keep lying. It’s what you do best.

  651. Mr.Vito says:

    668

    Robbie doesn’t really do critical thinking. His opinions can always be traced back to someone else’s report that he decided he liked.

  652. Tina says:

    We haven’t seen this many Obama officials flood the zone with intel claims since that time a YouTube video killed an ambassador in Benghazi.

    Lol, so true.

  653. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    I’ll vouch for Robbie about Levin.

    It was “CG” and jason who started quoting Levin when he was critical of Trump.

    You know, before Levin voted FOR HIM (as I predicted he would) in the General Election.

  654. Robbie says:

    Sheeple Jr says:
    March 6, 2017 at 10:42 am
    Robbie- Levin may be what you think, but it is hard to argue that his chronology of events in the alleged ObamaTap scandal, all taken from liberal media sources, is well presented and argued.

    – A circumstantial case is just that, a circumstantial case. It’s all based on HeatStreet and I have serious doubts about the original story.

  655. Tina says:

    More compassionate conservatism

    BREAKING: FBI investigating 300 people admitted to the U.S. as refugees in current counterterrorism probes – congressional sources

  656. NYCmike says:

    Levin has a 3 hour radio show, with 8-15 minute segments.
    He also has a TV show now, which explores single topics in-depth for an hour (I have only see part of one of the pilots).

    Either option is much too long for Robbie to deal with.

    It is much easier to re-tweet something 16 seconds after it comes out, without any verification.

  657. Tina says:

    I am not a fan of levine

    Screwed up the vetting of a. Kennedy

    Claims to be a reagan conservstive but ignores reagans more protectionist tendencies, ie quotas. The quitas helped cause the japanese auto cos to set up plants here in the states. Most of the japanese plants here were built in the 1980s.

    Is open borders

    But, in this case, he has the focuments sourced to the media.

    Either the media is wromg, ryan is wrong, sen coons is wrong, etc.

  658. NYCmike says:

    ” It’s all based on HeatStreet and I have serious doubts about the original story.”

    -If the “original story” is about a FISA request, Levin better be right about that. I would think he would not mess up that part of the story.

  659. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 6, 2017 at 10:46 am
    668
    Robbie doesn’t really do critical thinking. His opinions can always be traced back to someone else’s report that he decided he liked.

    – Here’s my critical thinking. I think Trump is mentally unstable and prone to believe conspiracies like his view Cruz’s dad helped Oswald kill JFK.

  660. NYCmike says:

    ” I think Trump is mentally unstable”

    -I was in NYC yesterday. Son had a schol function, and then we strolled around and got lunch.

    Saw about 4 Trump-branded properties.

    He took “mentally unstable” right to the Russian bank.

  661. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 6, 2017 at 10:54 am
    ” It’s all based on HeatStreet and I have serious doubts about the original story.”
    -If the “original story” is about a FISA request, Levin better be right about that. I would think he would not mess up that part of the story.

    – He did no investigation of the story. He just pieced together a bunch of stories and then drew a conclusion.

  662. NYCmike says:

    **school**

  663. NYCmike says:

    “– He did no investigation of the story. He just pieced together a bunch of stories and then drew a conclusion.”

    -In contrast to your “sources”, who investigated exhaustively for a year or two….I don’t take Levin at his word, but it was an interesting video…you breathlessly link to people’s thoughts they have while taking their morning constitutional.

  664. Tina says:

    Yup, he did no investigating.

    Lol

  665. Robbie says:

    Maggie Haberman?
    @maggieNYT 17m
    17 minutes ago

    Despite Trump’s public insistence while at Mar-a-Lago that he will be proven right re wiretaps, he’s sounded less certain in private convos

    Maggie Haberman?
    @maggieNYT 19m
    19 minutes ago

    Remember – Trump knows little about the mechanics of government, as well as separation of powers. He has assumed exec branch is not …

    Maggie Haberman?
    @maggieNYT 19m
    19 minutes ago

    …that dissimilar to how he ran Trump Tower, where he was known to tape calls etc. He spent time pondering how FISA requests/taps work.

  666. NYCmike says:

    “17 minutes ago”

    -Just…….can’t…….stop…….

  667. Tina says:

    More fake news tweets

  668. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump will stop using Twitter when Robbie’s friends do.

  669. Tina says:

    Twitter is a great weapon for him.

    He destroyed the trump russian connection, painted the drats as being allied with the russians, and then launched into the obumbler tapping him.

  670. Mr.Vito says:

    Haberman’s knowledge of what Trump knows and thinks was based on in depth investigation.

    Oh sorry, I mean she read what other people said and came up with a conclusion

  671. NYCmike says:

    So we got Levin, who EVERY DAY acknowledges he despises Obama, leftists, liberals, etc.

    Then, we have NY Times/WAPO reporters who, EVERY DAY, claim to be objective reporters.

    Whom would you trust?

  672. Phil says:

    I don’t listen to Rush all that much any longer. I will be listening today. He’s pro Trump[ in every way and has been a reliable mouth piece for Trump for months. If Trump has evidence of wiretapping my guess is that Limbaugh has been given a heads up by the Trump people and will double down on the story It would be a pretty good clue anyway, Conversely, if Limbaugh backs off and says he doesn’t know whether it is true that will be a clue in the other direction.

    Clues are all we have so far, unfortunately. I want to see at least an indication from the WH that there is evidence.

  673. Mr.Vito says:

    At least Robbie will now acknowledge she is a crank, like Levin.

  674. NYCmike says:

    “At least Robbie will now acknowledge she is a crank, like Levin.”

    -Who will be the cracked pot?

  675. Tina says:

    Just like cnn investigative report on bannonn and what he was saying the wh.

    That does look like a rifle target, but cnn woukd not domthat.

  676. NYCmike says:

    “God help me, I think i’d be voting for Nelson in this matchup” (Nelson vs Scott, in a hypothetical matchup)

    -One guess as to which former poster said this.

    “CG” – am I misrepresenting anything?

  677. Phil says:

    Author!!

  678. NYCmike says:

    BOOM!

  679. NYCmike says:

    DCC(ucks)

  680. Wes says:

    Scott is inching closer to challenging Nelson and is currently down 33-44 in a hypothetical matchup. Unlike McCollum, Harris, and Mack, Nelson is an energetic, aggressive campaigner Nelson can’t outspend. Plus, Scott has a healthy record as Governor and an increasingly GOP lean in the state at his back.

    Currently I rank this race as Lean D Hold, but I fully believe Scott can make it a Tossup or Lean R Pickup race if Trump doesn’t descend to GWB levels of unpopularity.

  681. Wes says:

    I’m guessing Author made the statement Mike referred to in 697.

    It’s official. Author has followed MD’s path and gone full moonbat.

  682. NYCmike says:

    “Author has followed MD’s path and gone full moonbat.”

    -I’ll defend MD here – MD supported Toomey in the last election, so Author followed his own path.

  683. NYCmike says:

    On the flip side, MD followed his wife’s path, as he told us many times.

    I guess that will have its own benefits.

  684. NYCmike says:

    On Instapundit – especially for Robbie

    FAKE NEWS: Same NY Times Reporter Said Trump Team Was Wiretapped In Jan., But Said TRUMP Lacked Evidence of Wiretapping In March. “In January Michael S. Schmidt perpetuated the rumor that team Trump had Russian connections, and to support his point he said that Trump’s people were wiretapped. However when President Trump claimed his people were wiretapped, the same guy, Michael S. Schmidt said there was no evidence. Either the Times editors and Mr. Schmidt are trying to skew the story, or they are all suffering from a form of dementia and have no memory.”

    So it seems to work this way:

    Press: Leaked transcripts of Trump wiretaps show Trump was being investigated by the Obama administration.

    Trump: Obama wiretapped me!

    Press: Transcripts? What transcripts?

  685. Barrett says:

    Trump Approval/Disapproval

    CNN/ORC – 45/52
    NBC/WSJ – 44/48
    Maris – 41/49
    Rasmussen – 52/48

    Average – 45.5/49.3

  686. Wes says:

    Author also supported Rubio last year, Mike.

  687. Bitterlaw says:

    Author is the voice of a new generation.

    MD is a cranky rich dude.

    That is a major difference.

  688. NYCmike says:

    “Author also supported Rubio last year, Mike.”

    -And has lamented that choice ever since Nov 8th.

    He is incredibly humorous to read – full of himself, and it is coming out all of his orifices as well. Make sure to wear your boots!

  689. Barrett says:

    Bitter, I’m about the same age as Author. He doesn’t speak for me.

    He may speak for other people in my generation, who are so easily influenced by what is shown to them on a TV screen.

    I don’t need a safe space. Author does.

  690. NYCmike says:

    https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10154139781040946

    -Robbie,

    Ok, he is a “crank”, that is willing to do this.

    Levin is NOT SCARED of any sunlight being applied to disinfect that swamp in D.C., in fact he has dedicated his life to doing exactly that!

    Get your “@maggieNYT” to start some real investigations!

  691. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t need a safe space. Author does.”

    -Barrett,

    I am glad our truce has held.

  692. NYCmike says:

    On that Levin Facebook “rant”, he links to the CNN piece by Brian Stelter. I love the transcript from that piece, part of which is:

    “Levin and Pollak’s opinion pieces relied heavily on anonymously sourced reports from the BBC, The Guardian and the new Murdoch-owned conservative outlet Heat Street about requests under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act from June and October 2016.”

    So, for CNN, NY Times, WAPO, “anonymously sourced reports” are ok, but for Levin to use them as a basis for his “rant” it is “The Birth of a Conspiracy Theory”, as your headline read.

    Well played, CNN, you really know how to speak Truth to Power! Kind of like your Baghdad bureau in the 80’s and 90’s.

  693. Tina says:

    Rotties News Service is wrong again

    Spicer said there is no question something happened to listen in on Trump, whether surveillance or a wire tap. “Something’s occurred.”

  694. Tina says:

    “I’m not aware that that occurred,” @PressSec says of reported Comey request to DOJ to knock down wiretapping allegation.

    Spicer rejects slimes article cited here by Rotties Fake news.

  695. Tina says:

    NEWS:

    Sen. Grassley (R-Iowa) presses FBI director Comey on why agency pushed to hire Brit spy to investigate Trump: http://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/judiciary/upload/2017-03-06%20CEG%20to%20FBI%20%28Arrangement%20to%20Pay%20Steele%29.pdf

    Uh oh.

  696. Tina says:

    Former Obama Press Sec – ‘I Don’t Know’ If We Ordered Trump Wiretaps

    Lol.

  697. NYCmike says:

    Uh oh, Tina is giving “Uh oh”‘s and “Lol”‘s……

    I sense a “@maggieNYT” or something similar coming from Robbie in 3…..2……1….

  698. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    I don’t give a rat’s ass what a crank like Mark Levin posts on Facebook. He can get into a pissing match with whomever he chooses. The fact is his bozo rantings on the radio turned into an idiot Breitbart piece which then became the basis for the emotionally insecure Trump to pop off on Twitter like a teenage boy who just had his heart broken.

    By the way, has Mark Levin ever found all the people he was convinced were committing vote fraud to get Thad Cochran elected over your boy Chris McDaniel. For that matter, has Chris McDaniel conceded his primary loss in 2014 yet. It’s only been three years now.

  699. Robbie says:

    Just to infuriate NYCMike, here’s another story just posted about Comey and Trump. No doubt, he’ll counter with a Pinterest post from Mark Levin.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/06/politics/james-comey-trump-wiretap-tweets/index.html

  700. Trump says:

    Fake news, Jeb coc$sucker.

    The only remaining question is, who red red the wiretapping, and why?

    Jail time coming for Comey and lynch.

  701. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    As said earlier, I don’t trust ANY OF THEM.

    You post links “worrying” about the rest of Trump’s Presidency. I don’t.

    He is an imperfect human being (being charitable) trying to run the largest government on earth, while other even-more-imperfect-beings try to keep him from doing that job.

    BUT, Levin has nothing to hide, while these “objective” reporters whom you re-tweet go around bashing Breitbart, Levin, etc, while NOT GOING AFTER the Obama administration at all.

    In another week or so, or maybe as the months go by, we will get more information. Until then, it is up to the media to investigate fully all of the accusations leveled: Trump and Russia, Obama and spying, etc.

    I’ll put my money on Levin/Breitbart being closer to the truth than any of your favored sources.

  702. Trump says:

    Nobody is disputing the fact of wiretapping.

  703. Tina says:

    Wiretapped is what the ny times wrote in 1/29 front oage.

    Re gowdy, has he jnvestigated it? No, he would not have any evidence at this point because there is no investigation,

  704. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    I hope Trump has no evidence, because if he does, this situation is even more F’d up than we all think!

    COULD YOU IMAGINE a just-finished-sitting-President being shown to be in a spying situation on his successor? I don’t want to have that happen.

  705. NYCmike says:

    “Just to infuriate NYCMike”
    “Trey Gowdy on wiretaps. Sad!”

    -Odd.

    I take these as 2 more links to read, to see if I can inform myself better on the situation.

    Robbie takes it as “gospel TRUTH”.

    Pope Francis REALLY played havoc with his mind!

  706. Tina says:

    And anythung trump provided woukd be heavily redacted. They will say its fake or untrue or a document that had been altered. Best thing, let the congress investigate the allegation that o wiretapped him.

  707. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t want to have that happen.”

    -OK, deep down, I want Obama, Michelle, Valerie Jarrett, Holder, etc exposed as the corrupt hacks that I think they are.

  708. Tina says:

    Something happened.

    Obama is gulity until proven innovent, much like the jebots accused trump of russian ties.

  709. Tina says:

    ttps://mobile.twitter.com/johncardillo/status/838802974893817858/photo/1

    Ny times frint page

    WIRETAPPED DATA.

  710. NYCmike says:

    The proceedings having to do with the FISA court should be easily rectified.

    Get it out there. The media already reported on it. Their “sources” should come forth, or the paper should admit to lying.

  711. Tina says:

    There wither was wiretapping or not.

    Ties to russia or not.

  712. NYCmike says:

    Robbie will refuse to look at that Jan 20 headline in the NY Times.

    “@maggieNYT” didn’t Tweet it to him.

  713. Tina says:

    I like noltes twitter feed

    Cnn is hitler.

  714. Tina says:

    Doj has the warrants, if there are any. It is dojs job to produce them.

  715. Trump says:

    One miscalculation the Obama minions made was that they never expected Trump to win.

    So they thought nobody would check on the illegal wiretapping.

    Comey, lynch, Brennan and clapper are really in the hot seat.

  716. Tina says:

    Now that we’re supposed to believe there was no real investigation of Trump and his campaign, what else can we conclude but that there was no real evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russia . . . which makes sense, since Russia did not actually hack the election, so the purported objective of the collusion never existed.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445522/russian-election-hacking-fbi-not-investigating-trump-campaign

    Yup, the meme of collussion is go e. Now its drat ties ro russia and obama wiretapping.

    Surely, he knew something.

  717. Sheeple Jr says:

    Tina– Robbie’s adulation for NY Times columnist Maggie Haberman neglects to footnote that about a month ago,she was ridiculed by her journalistic cohorts for claiming that the only terrorist attack on American soil during Obama’s two(2) terms was San Bernardino. The mocking of her claim was brutal.

  718. NYCmike says:

    “Tina– Robbie’s adulation for NY Times columnist Maggie Haberman neglects to footnote”

    -I would go with either “makes him willfully ignorant” or “makes him not care” instead of “neglects”.

  719. Phil says:

    “One miscalculation the Obama minions made was that they never expected Trump to win. So they thought nobody would check on illegal wiretapping”

    Ding Ding We have a winner. Explains so much.

  720. pitchaboy says:

    DJT kicked the deep state lunatics in the groin with that tweet. The subject has changed and it is now the dems feigning outrage that DJT could level such a thing on Obama without evidence. However, it is okay if they insinuate that DJT is a Manchurian candidate based on innuendo and “anonymous sources”. I have never seen a Republican fight back against the dems and press like this guy does; he has them on defence now. They know that FISA authorized surveillance in October and the Trump Tower was wire tapped and the info gained is the source of all these convenient leaks. And, they know, if Congress investigates it, it will open a can of worms on the grounds on which an opposition campaign was surveilled upon and whether there was abuse of authority. They are screwed.

  721. Tina says:

    If the d caller article is accurate I do not k ow how comedy has a job.

  722. Tina says:

    Dhs secretary confirms wiretap.

  723. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 6, 2017 at 6:11 pm
    Dhs secretary confirms wiretap.

    – No, he didn’t.

  724. NYCmike says:

    “I have never seen a Republican fight back against the dems and press like this guy does; he has them on defence now.”

    -We wanted Rudy to do it in 2008, but it seems he lost his “balls” when he underwent treatment for his prostate cancer. We had to wait 9 years for a “liberal Democrat” from NYC to show how it is done!

    Robbie to start yapping in 3….2….1…..

  725. NYCmike says:

    “– No, he didn’t.”

    -The proper response would be “Link?”, unless you show your link which backs up your statement.

  726. NYCmike says:

    That is how “skepticism” works.

  727. Sheeple Jr says:

    751 & 753
    Robbie–what took you so long to debunk Tina’s claim? One minute for you is forever for everyone else!
    Are you paid to be Defense Counsel for the Obama Administration?

  728. Tina says:

    The troll is concerned because he is a drat plant.

  729. Tina says:

    The buck stops with the president.

    It is evident that they interferred in the election.

    This is watergate on roids.

    Lock obama up.

  730. Tina says:

    46m
    CNN Lies & Is Hitler? @NolteNC
    In one day Trump stopped refugees, Congress introduced Ocare repeal, Obama under fire for his illegal spying.

    It’s a good day.

    Yes, a great day. Russia collusion story also killed.

  731. Tina says:

    1h
    John Cardillo? @johncardillo
    DHS Sec. Kelly – “POTUS has his reasons for wiretap claim.” Gen. Kelly is a man of utmost integrity. He doesn’t bluff.

    Kelly is ethical.

  732. NYCmike says:

    – No, he didn’t.”

    I think Robbie even had his tongue sticking out at Tina when he said this.

  733. NYCmike says:

    h/t Instapundit

    https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2017/march/trump-clinton-debates-gender-reversal.html

    -Pretty cool – I think I dislike Hillary even more as a man…..well, I guess it wasn’t too much of a change.

  734. Tina says:

    Moonbat katy turd also chimed in.

    Jebot to mention her.

  735. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    743.”One miscalculation the Obama minions made was that they never expected Trump to win. So they thought nobody would check on the illegal wiretapping.”

    Have to say, you may be right on this one. Not sure the wiretapping was illegal, if it was approved by the FISA court. But is was awful nevertheless, a violation of any respect for the constitutional process.

    Still at this point it is all speculative, the facts need to come out through a Congressional investigation.

  736. Tina says:

    If approved by the court, fine. However, obama knew and it was nor smart. Election year, opposition candidate.

    Just a little common sense.

  737. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Obama is gulity until proven innovent”

    Totally agree.

  738. Trump says:

    The question is not whether it was approved by the court. The us judicial system is such that you can get anything approved by the courts if you look for the right judge.

    The important question is, who asked for the warrant, and hey? And how did they perjure themselves to get the warrant?

  739. Tina says:

    Big win with the trump exxon deal announced.

  740. lisab says:

    wikileaks leaking tomorrow

    cia/nsa stuff

  741. lisab says:

    Washington Post tech employee was raided by FBI, accused of impersonating ICE agent

  742. Tina says:

    Did not think of this

    MARK SIMONE? @MarkSimoneNY
    The Trump surveillance tweet was a brilliant chess move. Now the leakers can’t use anything from it or it proves the surveillance.

    But his point is valid.

  743. Mr.Vito says:

    “If approved by the court, fine. However, obama knew and it was nor smart. Election year, opposition candidate.”

    To be approved by a court, the FISA warrants exist. Clapper says he can deny that. If there are no warrants, then who tapped Flynn at Trump Tower? Monitoring the ambassadors calls is irrelevant… they would have to have a warrant to continue after realizing Flynn, a citizen, was on the phone, and he could not be named. This would be an illegal wiretap. If they claim Flynn was possibly a foreign agent, then they need FISA approval and it would exist… but Clapper and Comey are adamant that there is no evidence of an agent in the Trump campaign colluding with the Russians.

    It is more likely that anyone that happened to be on the phone with anyone from Russia at Trump Tower was being monitored, and anything “desirable” by “interested parties” was going to be illegally recorded and leaked due to the laxing of the information-sharing by Obama.

  744. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    AP News: “But former government lawyers say Trump hardly needs Congress to answer this question. “The intelligence community works for the president, so if a president wanted to know whether surveillance had been conducted on a particular target, all he’d have to do is ask,” said Todd Hinnen, head of the Justice Department’s National Security Division during the Obama administration”

    One has to wonder if Trump asked, and what he was told. It can only be discussed publicly as part of a congressional investigation.

  745. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yayyyy 10-20 Million people losing health insurance.
    Making America Great Again! HEIL TRUMP!

  746. Phil says:

    Look, guys. It’s back again.

  747. Cash Cow TM says:

    I am disappointed that HHR has not yet gotten to the bottom of who, what, where, when and why of the bugging of DJT.

    GET BUSY!

  748. Tina says:

    Clapper added to the best of his knowledge.

    Whatever that means.

  749. Tina says:

    Harry reids letter to comedy in oct.

    “In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government – a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity,” he said. “I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public…and yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.”

    I think clapptrap is lying.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/harry-reids-october-letter-shows-likely-knew-fbi-wiretap-trump/

  750. Mr.Vito says:

    Harry Reid is a proven and proud liar. Anything he says means nothing.

  751. Tina says:

    Larry klaymans suit

    Larry Klayman: We are going back to the same judge Richard Leon in Washington, who twice preliminarily enjoined the NSA and by extension the CIA for this illegal surveillance. And we’re asking him to immediately hold a status conference and look into this. He has the ability. He has a security clearance that he can see these warrants. And, in fact, some of the judges on the same court house in Washington DC sit on that FISA court. So that’s the way we can do it. But let me say something about what’s being said here about this illegal surveillance. There’s no doubt that it happened. We know it happened to General Mike Flynn. We know in fact there likely were FISA warrants. That could not have been issued without the knowledge of the President of the United States Barack Obama. So President Trump was exactly right.

  752. Tina says:

    Yes, a liar, but it is clear that in an october tweet, hillary knew something was up, unless she is psychic.

  753. Tina says:

    And it is not what he said, it is a written document.

  754. Tina says:

    We will not support a plan that does not include stability for Medicaid expansion populations or flexibility for states,” Sens. Rob Portman (Ohio), Shelley Moore Capito (W.Va.), Cory Gardner (Colo.) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) wrote in a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

    This list does not include fraud flake, mcamnesty, and goober.

  755. NYCmike says:

    http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/03/06/midterms-come-fast-gop-dana-loesch-slams-house-republican-rollout-of-obamacare-2-0/

    -Nothing like control of Congress, White House, and the Court to really focus the mind on screwing up Royally!

  756. NYCmike says:

    The debate should have started publicly on Day One, so that each individual representative would be identified and shown for what they wanted included in the bill.

    The voters who put these clowns in control of Congress WANT the messiness of a big debate, they WANT sunshine on the process, they WANT to know what is in the bill BEFORE they pass the bill.

  757. lisab says:

    if you give free healthcare equal in quality to what middle class people can afford to buy to “the poor”, then you are not going to have a stable system.

    my neighbor has two children and chooses to remain unmarried and on welfare, foodstamps, section 8 housing, wic, obamacare etc. even though she lives with her common law hubby because he has a job.

    if she got legally married to him her income in the form of benefits paid by the state would drop and she would have to get a job

  758. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile, the far leftist politicians running California have succeeded in alienating the Vietnamese population. Being anti-communist is a taboo among California Democrats.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/06/california-gop-senator-wants-public-apology-after-vietnam-speech-silenced.html

  759. NYCmike says:

    (whistle blows)(yellow flag thrown)

    Referee: Link is not from the NY Times, WAPO, or CNN – UNACCEPTABLE!

    Penalty – Tina must ban herself for 15 minutes, and bow down if a crop duster flies overhead.

  760. jason says:

    Just checking in to see what the MSM has to say…

    Where’s Wobbie?

  761. NYCmike says:

    h/t Instapundit:

    PHILIP KLEIN: Republican Obamacare plan signals that liberalism has already won.

    I’ve already shared my skepticism that the bill, which doesn’t actually start repealing the major spending provisions of Obamacare until the 2020 presidential election, would actually end up repealing much in practice. But for the sake of argument, let’s just assume the plan gets implemented exactly as written.

    Supporters of the bill could argue that it does make changes to Obamacare – repealing taxes, reducing spending, and scaling back some mandates and regulations. There are even a few areas in which one could argue the bill moves health policy in a more conservative direction relative to the pre-Obamacare status quo. It provides for expanded health savings accounts and, though it would spend more money than otherwise would have been the case before Obamacare, it would overhaul Medicaid into a program in which states are given a per capita grant and provided the flexibility to run their own programs.

    But at the same time, the GOP bill preserves much of the regulatory structure of Obamacare; leaves the bias in favor of employer healthcare largely intact; replaces Obamacare’s subsidies with a different subsidy scheme; and still supports higher spending for Medicaid relative to what was the case before Obamacare.

    What we have here is the GOP negotiating with itself over the terms of its surrender.

  762. NYCmike says:

    That is SAD!

  763. Phil says:

    I am sorry but any source other than the NYT, Washington Post, or CNN is unacceptable. These three are the gold standards of journalistic integrity and all three are the only sources that should carry any weight.

    Please refrain from linking other so called sources.

  764. Journolists says:

    We want to announce that we have made Robbie an Honorary Member of our association.

    As you know, we are dedicated to coordinate talking points among leftist “journalists” and to ensure nobody strays from the approved script.

    Robbie has distinguished himself at HHR for faithfully adhering to the approved script and for diligently fighting against any attempt to question our basic premise: there is only one truth, and we decide what it is.

  765. NYCmike says:

    Someone tell Author he agrees with me about the Obamacare-non-repeal. It took him becoming a Dem/Hillary supporter to finally realize I was correct about Congressional Republicans – they are not conservative-oriented-enough.

    “Watching Righties who b*tched about O-Care rush to defend this because there’s an (R) behind it is terribly predictable by now”

  766. NYCmike says:

    “CG” to show up to correct my copy-and-paste in 3….2….1….

  767. jason says:

    Looks like NYC has finally understood what 99.9% of Americans already knew.

    The popular provisions of Obamacare are here to stay. And nobody is going to reverse entitlements that are already in place, it has never happened. That train left the station when Obamacare passed and was SCOTUS didn’t throw it out.

    As I have pointed out numerous times before, Obamacare can be called something else and made much more market friendly and less bureaucratic. There are many things that can be done to peel away a lot of the big government aspects of it.

    However, maybe the deadenders want to reject the GOP’s proposal and keep Obamacare as it is.

    I wouldn’t be surprised, since deadenders love dead ends.

  768. NYCmike says:

    It looks like jason did exactly what I thought Republicans would do – throw out some of their options BEFORE negotiations/debate even started, thereby allowing Democrats to have them make additional compromises which will keep most of Obamacare intact, especially the mandates for all policies to have certain coverages, which will make decreasing premiums impossible.

    I hope I am proven wrong, but it looks like they took a terrible law, and are trying to dress it up for the prom, except they didn’t spend any money (aka political capital) to fix it up.

    Considering jason made no effort to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House, it makes sense that he would not be perturbed in the least at the abdication of responsibility being perpetrated by a Republican Congress on their voters and the rest of the American populace.

  769. NYCmike says:

    DCCC

  770. jason says:

    “PHILADELPHIA (CBS)— More than 20 people were arrested after a flash mob of more than 100 teenagers wreaked havoc in Center City Philadelphia Monday evening.

    Police say the group gathered in the area of 15th and Market Streets around 5:30 p.m., and began fighting and running in and out of traffic with no regard for others.”

    Bitter has an exciting life…. in Bird-in-Hand one teenager fell off a bike on Ronks Blvd near Brubacher’s Quilt Shop.

  771. jason says:

    NYC would be a happier person if he realized I am almost always right.

  772. jason says:

    For years I have made the same point. Nobody is going to reverse things like coverage for pre-existing conditions. Nobody is going to take away entitlements after they have been implemented.

    Elections have consequences.

    He chose not to believe it.

    Let the whining begin.

  773. jason says:

    It looks like jason did exactly what I thought Republicans would do”

    Not quite.

    It looks like jason was exactly right on what HE predicted would happen.

    The popular provisions of Obamacare will never be reversed.

    Only morons thought that would happen.

  774. jason says:

    However Obamacare or whatever you want to call it can be vastly made into something much more market friendly and beneficial to the American people, and with a lot fewer regulations that increase HC costs.

    We should take the opportunity to unite towards this goal instead of the all or nothing approach which will get us, guess what, nothing.

  775. NYCmike says:

    “We should take the opportunity to unite towards this goal instead of the all or nothing approach which will get us, guess what, nothing.”

    -Agreed.

    Wouldn’t a more open and above board process been a good starting point towards unity? You don’t want an all-or-nothing approach, and I agree with you, but here you are defending a bill that is already written, yet certain **cough** more conservative-oriented-members **cough** have NOT SEEN the bill yet.

    It seems like you are reflexively defending a bill that has come about thru a process which is antithetical to what you are looking for.

  776. NYCmike says:

    Combine this legislative stance along with a non-ideological person like Trump, and it is a recipe for Dem-like policies.

    Congress NEEDED to be the driver behind policy, and it NEEDED to be of a conservative, free-market orientation.

    Moderation even BEFORE negotiations is NOT the way to get there.

  777. Trump says:

    GOP congress being market friendly?

    Since when?

    Market friendly does not have enough opportunities for graft.

    GOP loves Obamacare taxes. Why would they repeal taxes?

  778. Wes says:

    Republican Congresses in the past century have repealed taxes in the 1920s (Harding), 1990s (Clinton), and 2000s (GWB). They actually have a propensity for repealing and reducing taxes–unlike their Dem counterparts, who have done so, in the 1960s under JFK.

  779. NYCmike says:

    “GOP loves Obamacare taxes. Why would they repeal taxes?”

    -The piece says taxes are repealed, so you look to be incorrect on that point.

    The bigger issue would be the mandates on certain services REQUIRED in each policy, which is where the ever-increasing costs come from.

  780. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    Along with reduced taxes is a need for reduced expenditures as well. They go hand-in-hand.

  781. NYCmike says:

    IF the goal is a government that is solvent for the long-term.

  782. NYCmike says:

    As opposed to getting re-elected.

  783. gameboy says:

    The replacement for Obamacare is a joke….worse than the regular Obamcare. Either have the guts and courage to repeal the damn thing in its entirety, or throw in the towel and leave it alone and consider it a loss.

  784. Wes says:

    Someone should have told a certain former President that, Mike.

  785. Mr.Vito says:

    Here are some things I know:

    1. Rand Paul was going to call any plan but his Obamacare-lite

    2. No final bill was ever going to come out with people leaking components of it and complaining about them before it was finished

    3. The bill will not pass if it kicks people off medicaid, and if subsidies are immediately ended it will kick people off medicaid.

    4. Trump wanted a bill he could sign this week.

    Conclusion: Ryan produced. Healthy debate is fine now. Grandstanding and posturing is zzzzzz

  786. NYCmike says:

    “Someone should have told a certain former President that, Mike.”

    -Those who did were then labeled “deadenders”, and you were one of those leading the name-calling brigade.

  787. Mr.Vito says:

    One last thing:

    5. Obamacare was passed with 60 votes and no republican input after a democratic election.

    Republicans have 52 votes. The proper starting point is not to ask, what bill would we have passed with 60 votes, but what would the bill look like if republicans had been given proper input.

    Question: how does the bill look from that perspective? Decent? If so, earn trust, and then more Senate votes in 2018.

  788. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    My problem with what you wrote is this: We have not tried a plan that would make the conservative base happy, ever. Ryan may have “produced”, but if the product is just “a better crap sandwich”, it is still crap.

  789. NYCmike says:

    I will give you this: Point #5 makes the most sense out of all of your points, except I wish it came about AFTER some negotiations with Democrats.

    I fear that where we are now will lead to MORE compromise.

  790. JC says:

    It looks like Trump scared the media away on the Russia BS. Yet another leftist narrative collapsing.

    Probably because the media is working in collusion with the dems to push this story, and they don’t want to be exposed. They’re nervous now.

  791. Mr.Vito says:

    “We have not tried a plan that would make the conservative base happy…”

    Earn 60 Senate votes and pass what you like… start today.

    Ryan did what he was asked by POTUS, since he believes they have crafted something with better care, more options, and less cost through competition…. and in the first 100 days.

  792. jason says:

    ither have the guts and courage to repeal the damn thing in its entirety, or throw in the towel and leave it alone and consider it a loss.”

    There we go..

    All or nothing.

    So you get nothing.

    I love deadender logic.

  793. jason says:

    I fear that where we are now will lead to MORE compromise.”

    Horrors.

    Compromise.

    What a terrible thing.

  794. NYCmike says:

    “1. Rand Paul was going to call any plan but his Obamacare-lite”

    -Imagine, a DOCTOR/politician thinking he could write a better HEALTH INSURANCE bill than a lawyer/politician.

    Such temerity displayed by Rand Paul! He should be shunned!

  795. jason says:

    NYC has identified the true enemy and its compromise.

  796. Mr.Vito says:

    “Imagine, a DOCTOR/politician thinking he could write a better HEALTH INSURANCE bill than a lawyer/politician. ”

    Several doctors worked on the plan.

  797. jason says:

    Rand Paul is a publicity seeking ass just like his father.

    He was never a conservative and never a Republican. Paulbots don’t want smaller government, they just want Paulbot government.

    Just because he is a doctor he can write a better HC bill?

    LOL.

  798. jason says:

    But heck, I am all for Rand Paul returning to private practice.

    Good riddance.

  799. Mr.Vito says:

    In fact, I’m hoping this bill looks a lot like the one made by Ryan and Tom Coburn.

    I trust Tom Coburn.

  800. NYCmike says:

    “What a terrible thing.”

    -jason,

    At least be honest, and keep my statement in context.

    Your way:

    Goal: Repeal Obamacare, maybe some of it.
    Start in committee: COMPROMISE.
    Bring to floor: Compromise
    Bring to Senate: Compromise
    Bill to White House: Compromised!

    My way:

    Goal: Repeal Obamacare.
    Start in committee: Full on scrap of system, with market-oriented, individually-owned, tax-favored Health Insurance accounts to be given more emphasis
    Bring to floor: Ram it thru with numbers
    Bring to Senate: COMPROMISE, due to less than 60 votes
    Bill to White House: Much different, and much different bill to sign into LAW.

    I hope your way works. The communication leading to this attempt has been non-existent and/or terrible, so it is not off to a good start. Fingers crossed.

  801. NYCmike says:

    “I trust Tom Coburn.”

    -Agreed, more so than any of the others. Hope you are correct.

  802. Mr.Vito says:

    “The communication leading to this attempt has been non-existent and/or terrible…”

    They have been making plans for 7 years. Everyone knows what every member wants… until they did it in private, all we heard was leaks and complaints and grandstanding.

  803. NYCmike says:

    “Just because he is a doctor he can write a better HC bill?”

    -Compared to a lawyer who has not dealt with doctor/patient issues?

    YES. Kind of like……Tom Coburn, or Tom Price.

    Next question.

  804. Mr.Vito says:

    Here is an article about the bill put forth in 2009 by Ryan, Nunes, Coburn, and Richard Burr.

    With that list of names, I would submit it as the bill that would have included Republican input.

    Suppose we take it as the minimum for an acceptable standard for conservative compromise.

    How does the new bill look?

  805. BayernFan says:

    Ban health insurance for say 2 years. Healthcare prices will plummet fast and by a lot. Equilibrium will be reached as providers scramble to cut costs and compete in the open market. After two years, health insurance can be sold. Premiums would be lower and catastrophic policies with high deductibles will be the norm. No HSAs. Employer provided health insurance taxed as ordinary income.

    Basically, force people to pay healthcare costs out of pocket, and to treat health insurance the same way they treat auto and property insurance.

    Problem solved.

  806. lisab says:

    It looks like Trump scared the media away on the Russia BS.
    ———————

    no, wikileaks did

    the feds were spying on people with russian malware, to make it look like the russians did it

  807. lisab says:

    Ban health insurance for say 2 years.
    ——————

    what if someone in the usa gets sick? 🙂

  808. Mr.Vito says:

    “the feds were spying on people with russian malware, to make it look like the russians did it”

    Did they ever figure out who was trying to hack the Georgia Elections data from the government address?

    How much you want to bet it would have left traces of Russian malware?

  809. Mr.Vito says:

    “what if someone in the usa gets sick?”

    How many doctors will close up shop because they aren’t getting reimbursed?

  810. lisab says:

    how about buy everyone in the country ultra-high deductible insurance with no exclusions, and i mean a very high deductible, like $1 million — so basically you are covered by the government for catastrophic diseases only

    let health insurance sell insurance across state lines to the middle class for the $0 to $1 million piece — they will have an upper loss limit of $1 million so their risks are lowered

    allow the companies also to compete on regular high deductible insurance with say $10k or $20k deductibles for young people, covering $10k or $20k to $1 million — which should be cheap

    let health clinics with PA’s nurses and doctors in training treat the poor

  811. lisab says:

    the idea that we can have the middle-class pay for their own insurance AND for the insurance for people who don’t work

    AND

    make it so they both see the same doctors in the same hospitals

    AND

    make it so the poor have $0 deductibles but the people paying for it, i.e. the middle class have $10k deductibles

    is insanity

    if i had to rely on my hubby’s insurance i could not afford to go to the doctor. fortunately i have state employee insurance so he and i are covered with reasonable deductibles

  812. lisab says:

    i think MD said he had something like a $14k deductible for his family!

    granted he is rich, but not everyone can shell out $14k

  813. NYCmike says:

    This place is wild!

    jason, self-professed conservative, keeps speaking about the “popular provisions of Obamacare” and is willing to compromise.

    Meanwhile, BayernFan, often mocked by that same jason (as well as A-Hole MD) for being an Obamacare sycophant, wants to repeal, cannibalize, chop up, and bury Obamacare for all eternity, and allow the USA citizen to deal strictly with ca$h.

  814. BayernFan says:

    What’s funny (as in ironic) is that in my case, in order for my marketplace provider to stay competitive this year, the insurance carrier was able to keep the premium within $5 of last year by increasing my deductible from 2500 to 6500. Now, to me that’s a high enough deductible to be classified as a catastrophic care policy.

    But those are not permitted under the ACA (excepting a few rare hardship situations). lol So basically, under the rules of the ACA, insurance carriers were permitted, like a utility, to adjust their product and pricing to make an acceptable profit which essentially meant that the market was inching toward high deductible policies that people could afford. A free market trojan horse, as it were.

    I don’t know if other states and marketplace consumers had the same situation.

  815. BayernFan says:

    lisab and vito…..

    yes, people will die and some, maybe many, health care providers will struggle and even go out of business.

    but you gotta crack a few eggs to bring back marketplace sanity to the healthcare market.

    Food is arguably more important to life that healthcare…but w don’t have food insurance. Your auto policy doesn’t pay for car washes. and your homeowners policy doesn’t pay to fix broken windowpanes.

    After we fix healthcare costs, we ban government supported student loans for a couple years. Watch schools like Middlebury go belly up.

  816. jason says:

    YES. Kind of like……Tom Coburn, or Tom Price.”

    Sorry Rand Paul is not like them at all.

    They are conservatives and Republicans.

  817. lisab says:

    but w don’t have food insurance
    ————————————-

    we do, it’s called SNAP

  818. lisab says:

    “Your auto policy doesn’t pay for car washes. and your homeowners policy doesn’t pay to fix broken windowpanes.”

    which is the idea behind deductibles. you CAN go to the doctor for a bruise or the sniffles, but the doctor cannot help you for that, so you should pay out of pocket because you are just wasting their time

  819. lisab says:

    Today, 23 February 2016 at 00:00 GMT [updated 12:20 GMT], WikiLeaks publishes highly classified documents showing that the US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin; singled out the Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone; singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception; stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu; intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort[ing]” them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed); explicitly targetted five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers; explicitly targetted the phones of Italy’s ambassador to NATO and other top Italian officials for long term interception; and intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berluscon, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to “pop like a cork”.

  820. lisab says:

    kinda sad obama was

    a.) interfering with global warming meetings — when publicly saying he supported global warming legislation

    b.) would not talk to the pm of israel

    i can understand not being best friends with netanyahu, but no matter how busy i was as queen, i think i would take his phone call

  821. jason says:

    “A majority of Americans believe the press has been too hard on President Donald Trump, with 55 percent saying they are growing “weary” of the constant drumbeat of negative coverage, according to the latest IBD/TIPP poll.

    Further, 54 percent of Americans believe the White House’s position the media has become the opposition party, according to the poll.

    The results:

    88 percent of Republicans say they are tired of the relentless negative coverage.
    55 percent of independents and 54 percent of moderates are also weary.
    62 percent of independents are “not confident” the media can cover Trump fairly.
    54 percent of independents believe the media has become the opposition party.

    Eight out of 10 Republicans are not confident Trump will be covered fairly and the media has become the opposition party; 30 percent or less of Democrats believe the same.”

  822. lisab says:

    assistant: lisa, netanyahu is on the phone again

    lisab: oh crap … ok … patch him through, … what is it now nety? … no … no … we’ve talked about this … no … no … sorry, no … i don’t think i can agree to that … no … no … maybe in a year or two … no … no …sorry, no … a white slip … from agent provocateur … stay on topic … no … no … uh uh … not going to happen … nope …sorry … etc.

  823. lisab says:

    from reddit … even dems are not believing cnn anymore
    ———————–

    “Clinton campaign’s clever DNC “Russian ruse” threatens to consume Washington: Proving yet once again that absolutely everything that a Clinton touches always turns into complete sh*t” … redditor on cnn story

  824. NYCmike says:

    Where is Robbie to let us know how Trump is screwing up today?

    I am getting withdrawal symptoms…..

  825. NYCmike says:

    In regards to wikleaks, Trump should dispatch a drone to take them out if possible.

  826. Wes says:

    #817:

    Yarbles, bolshy great yarblockos to thee and thine, NYCMike.

  827. NYCmike says:

    Stanley Kubrick called, and asked you to stop repeating that line, because you sound like a douche.

  828. NYCmike says:

    Also, because he does not want to be associated with a person who can’t dispute what was written, because it is true.

  829. Wes says:

    Why didn’t Anthony Burgess call, Mike?

  830. Mr.Vito says:

    Neither of them called. They are dead.

  831. Mr.Vito says:

    PoliticsTeam moderator
    26 minutes ago

    Price is asked about conservative groups opposing the bill.

    Price says it is the beginning of the process and that he looks forward to working with those groups to make sure the process is in line with conservative principles.

  832. Mr.Vito says:

    PoliticsTeam moderator
    28 minutes ago

    Price says there are three stages to the repeal-and-replace process. This is something Trump hinted at in a tweet this morning.

    He says the goal is “patient-centered” healthcare, and he says he commends the House for the bill.

  833. Mr.Vito says:

    PoliticsTeam moderator
    3 minutes ago

    Spicer says these are the principles conservatives have been fighting for for years, but says they can’t do it all in one bill.

    He says the second piece is through Price’s executive actions.

    He says the third piece are those things that require 60 votes in the Senate as they require legislation.

  834. NYCmike says:

    Was that the name of the author?

    Learn something new every day.

    Thanks, Wes. Appreciate the information.

    (Phone rings)

    NYCmike: Yes, Mr. Burgess, Wes has the following effect on most of us!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

  835. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    I jumped the gun, and was wrong. I do not trust the Congressional Republicans, and I let it affect my judgment.

    Will patiently wait for more information as it comes out, and will keep an open mind.

    Thanks for the info.

  836. NYCmike says:

    The little I have read about Tom Price I have liked.

    He deserves my patience.

  837. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-07/nsa-whistleblower-bill-binney-says-trump-is-absolutely-right-about-wiretap-claims

    “I think the president is absolutely right. His phone calls, everything he did electronically, was being monitored,” Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran of the National Security Agency who resigned in protest from the organization in 2001, told Fox Business on Monday. Everyone’s conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said.

    Binney resigned from NSA shortly after the U.S. approach to intelligence changed following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. He “became a whistleblower after discovering that elements of a data-monitoring program he had helped develop — nicknamed ThinThread — were being used to spy on Americans,” PBS reported.

    …Binney told Fox the laws that fall under the FISA court’s jurisdiction are “simply out there for show” and “trying to show that the government is following the law, and being looked at and overseen by the Senate and House intelligence committees and the courts.”

    “That’s not the main collection program for NSA,” Binney said.

  838. NYCmike says:

    “Neither of them called. They are dead.”

    -They both said “Stick a Sock in it!”.

  839. pitchaboy says:

    Let alone MSM, this guy Shep Smith is a shill for the lefties and bashes Trump non-stop. High time he is fired.

  840. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Poor Gov. Moonbeam, his bullet train boondoggle may be at an end:

    “”Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao has put the brakes on $647 million for Caltrain,” the California train that travels between the South Bay and San Francisco, “to go electric.”
    In a Jan. 24 letter to Chao, all 14 Republicans in the state’s congressional delegation called for the Caltrain money to be put on hold until a full audit is done on high-speed rail. On Friday, Chao obliged — the Federal Transit Administration, which she oversees, said a decision on the $647 million federal grant needed to keep the project going would be delayed”
    _______________

    from LA Times:

    “Without more federal funds, the train seems headed for derailment. Maybe it is even with additional Washington largess. The project has received only $3.5 billion from the feds, most of it so-called economic stimulus funds appropriated during the recession.
    The bullet train is at least $44 billion short of enough money for completion. There’s no private financing. And state politicians don’t dare ask California voters to dig deeper into their pockets. They approved $9 billion in bond borrowing in 2008.”

  841. NYCmike says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/gop-repeal-plan-sucks-better-nothing/

    “Obamacare was ignored as soon as it was passed. A law that was sold as a tool to reign in rising costs quickly became a moral edifice that alleviated an imaginary humanitarian crisis (the ACA defense is now almost exclusively focused on people losing Medicaid). Meanwhile, Obamacare was used as a tool for social engineering and coercion, allowing technocrats to dictate how a third of the economy functions. If you control the bureaucracy, laws become incredibly malleable. One day Democrats will be back, and without even partial repeal, all the same mechanisms will be available to them.”

    -Republicans will need to do something about this. ALL of those laws/rules/dictates/etc need to be removed.

    Hopefully, they have the same idea up on Capitol Hill.

  842. NYCmike says:

    The end of that link also mentions that Democrats will react as if the sky is crashing down on women, the poor, children, especially “the children!”.

    If you go full repeal, at least the Democrats would have a point, and then Republicans would make a clear stand. This way they are doing it, Dems CRY anyway, and Republicans have already compromised. MORE will be necessary, most likely.

    But, PATIENCE!

  843. SuzyQue says:

    Hello everybody…..I live in California…. Gov. Jerry
    Brown needs to go. He has been a Gov. too long!
    It is time for California to turn RED!

  844. SuzyQue says:

    #877
    WALT….WHERE ARE YOU?

  845. jason says:

    Hey Suzy, if God is still a Republican, can’t he get rid of Moonbeam?

  846. Bitterlaw says:

    My team has a playoff game tonight. Prediction – We will by 4 or lose by 12.

  847. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Are you still in Brooklyn?

  848. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – Are you still in Brooklyn?”

    -YES. Answered you yesterday.

  849. NYCmike says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 6, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Still in Brooklyn.

    Wife wouldn’t let me escape – glad she made that choice, except for the commute, but audio books work fine.

  850. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    881. Yikes! 49-46% in favor of Trump, and ahead in Rasmussen 51%-49%. So much for those whining about him having a bad month.

  851. Mr.Vito says:

    “My team has a playoff game tonight. Prediction – We will by 4 or lose by 12.”

    You better cover the spread, or my goons will be coming for you.

  852. Tina says:

    I heard a little bit about the obumblercare replacement

    It seems like obumblercare light

    Where is the ability to buy insurance across state lines?

  853. Tina says:

    So, russia and trump memes are destroyed.

    Awesome tweets. So,etimes, you gamble and sometimes you do not.

  854. JC says:

    The Russia hitjob is literally blowing up in establishment’s faces.

  855. Trump says:

    I love it when the Dems and the media (redundant, I know) want Trump to provide evidence.

    So that they can glean how much trump knows, andadjust their lies accordingly.

    i think they are starting to realize that Trump has every bit of intelligence, from obama’s school transcripts to Harry Reid’s taxes.

    And he is not afraid to play hardball. Unlike typical GOP puss$es.

  856. blobbie says:

    881. Yikes! 49-46% in favor of Trump, and ahead in Rasmussen 51%-49%. So much for those whining about him having a bad month.
    ———————————

    only the nytimes and cnn polling is reliable fake news

  857. Mr.Vito says:

    Pu$$ies hate hardballs.

  858. Tina says:

    Hmm, interesting. Did the secret service discover the wiretapping of trump tower?

  859. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/06/us/politics/republican-obamacare-replacement.html?smid=pl-share&_r=0

    Essential health benefits

    Under the A.C.A., all insurers must offer 10 essential health benefits, including maternity care and preventive services.

    Republican plan: Keep

    -How do you make insurance cheaper when the insurance company has to have these mandates included? You don’t.

    How do you get individuals to better educate themselves about costs, about proper care for oneself, about learning about better nutrition, if their doctors is mandated to provide services that “prevent” sickness? You don’t.

    Patience, Patience…..

  860. jason says:

    So NYC doesn’t know what preventive means.

    Not a surprise.

  861. jason says:

    “BARRINGTON, R.I. (AP) — Ninety-seven-year-old twins Jean Young Haley and Martha Young Williams left the world as they entered it: together.

    The two women died over the weekend in freezing temperatures after both fell and became stranded outside Haley’s home following an evening out. Police say they believe Williams fell as she walked to her car Friday evening, and Haley fell as she tried to get inside to call for help.”

    I hope I am still “walking to my car” at 97….

  862. Tina says:

    Are the jebots in mourni g!

  863. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Police say the group gathered in the area of 15th and Market Streets [in Philly] around 5:30 p.m., and began fighting and running in and out of traffic with no regard for others.”

    Bitter has an exciting life…. in Bird-in-Hand one teenager fell off a bike on Ronks Blvd near Brubacher’s Quilt Shop.”
    _____________________________________
    Big City Values vs. Small Town Values

  864. Proud Obamacon says:

    OOOOPS.. PUSSY GRABBER LIED AGAIN?

    “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.” People covered under the law “can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better.”

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  865. Walt says:

    “SuzyQue says:
    March 7, 2017 at 5:17 pm
    #877
    WALT….WHERE ARE YOU?”
    #######################################
    SSQ,

    Monday:

    Up at 6 a.m. to do testing at one school; finshed at 2:20 p.m.
    That afternoon drove 200 miles west to motel to spend night in order to do testing in another school 50 miles further west of the motel on a horrid road. This was on a curvy, up and down, secondary, two lane, poorly maintained road. In one particular mile there were 20 curves.

    Tuesday:
    Up at 6:15 a.m.
    Drive to school and arrive at 8:40 a.m.
    Do testing, drive home and arrive at 7:40 p.m.
    –almost 500 miles roundtrip (on M and T)

    Wednesday: will have to get up at 5:15 a.m. to get ready to drive to next school to conduct tests
    (this school is about a 20 minute drive; I have to be there at 6:30 a.m.)

    In addition, I am involved in other projects, including working for DJT to get to the bottom of the leaks and who is involved in the wiretaps.

    Occasionally I eat and sleep.

    Last school testing will be Monday and life returns to semi-normal. I do not think I will do this temporary, part time job again. I may tell them GFY.

  866. Cash Cow TM says:

    public schools, colleges and universities across the land will be closed tomorrow due to the big nationwide womens’ “Day Without a Woman” protest organized by the Demon-crats.

    Parents of younger school children being highly inconvenienced by the juvenile actions of the
    ass hats.
    ################################################
    Doing their part to “Not Make America Great Again”

    I say fire all the protesting women teachers, bus drivers, etc. and bring in illegal immigrants to replace them in the workplace at 1/2 the wages.

  867. Cash Cow TM says:

    I think farmers should all go on a one day strike to protest injustice toward them and their crops and flocks–particularly the hard working, milked twice a day cows.

    No Peace, No Justice!
    No Justice, No MILK!
    _______________________________
    And firefighters should also all pick a day to call in sick to protest injustices toward them.

    And policemen…and fast food workers…and librarians…and people who work to produce electricity and provide other utilities…

  868. Bitterlaw says:

    Lost by 9.

  869. blobbie says:

    No Justice, No MILK!
    ————————

    i drink almond milk

  870. lisab says:

    i do too 🙂

  871. Wes says:

    The Mayor of Patterson, NJ, has been indicted on corruption charges. In other breaking news, the Sun is shiny.

  872. Wes says:

    In a new Mason-Dixon poll, Nelson leads Scott 46-41. That’s not bad for a none-too-popular Governor against a three-term Senator who’s won an absolute majority of the vote each time.

  873. jason says:

    If there is no party identification in the article, I assume the Mayor is a Democrat?

  874. jason says:

    Lost by 9.”

    Since you predicted if you would lose it would be by 12 you were wrong.

  875. jason says:

    OOOOPS.. PUSSY GRABBER LIED AGAIN?

    “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said.”

    You can keep your doctor and premiums will go down.

    So Proud ObamaCON, was that a whopper?

  876. jason says:

    “Pussy grabber”

    Hillary had no problem with her husband groping women and getting BJ’s in the oval office, but she and ObamaCON are VERY offended about Trump’s gutter talk.

  877. Mr.Vito says:

    298000 jobs

  878. Phil says:

    Hope Trump’s popularity ticks up across the board to 50 plus. It would drive the left even more insane. At that point, pass the popcorn. The entertainment will be spectacular.

  879. Phil says:

    MSM headline:

    JOB CREATION FALLS SHORT OF 300,000 UNDER TRUMP

  880. Wobbles says:

    Reuters
    Approve 49.2%
    Disapprove 45.9%
    Mixed feelings 4.9%

    This polls does not fit my narrative.

    Trash it.

  881. jason says:

    I bet we won’t see much of Wobbie today.

  882. jason says:

    He is busy, lots of very early spring crop dusting.

  883. jason says:

    I hope my wife joins the day without a woman.

    I look forward to a day where I can just make a huge mess unchallenged.

  884. Phil says:

    Senator Kaine’s son was arrested along with four others on suspicion second degree riot at the March 4th Trump rally.

    Lovely. They are all nuts.

  885. jason says:

    I may tell them GFY.”

    It’s refreshing that old dogs like Walt can learn valuable new tricks he learned here at HHR on how to deal with people.

  886. jason says:

    Isn’t one of his sons a Marine? I hope it wasn’t that one.

  887. Phil says:

    I don’t know. The article just says this son is 24.

  888. Phil says:

    Papa must be so proud.

  889. jason says:

    MSM when Obama was President and there were good job reports:

    HE DID IT!

    MSM when Trump is President and there are good reports:

    HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

    These are the people Wobbie thinks walk on water.

  890. jason says:

    BEIJING (AP) — China’s foreign minister said Wednesday that North Korea could suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for a halt in joint U.S.-South Korea military drills, in an unusually public proposal that analysts said showed Beijing’s growing alarm over the tensions.”

    Hello? What kind of deal is that? Tell the Chinese to GFTs.

    North Korea doesn’t need nukes to invade South Korea, they have unlimited and expendable manpower.

  891. jason says:

    Translation for the “deal”:

    We won’t nuke you if you just make it easy for us to invade you by conventional means.

  892. Wes says:

    Let’s give Robbie a modicum of credit:

    Unlike Corey, he doesn’t think Trump is ushering in the Fourth Reich.

  893. jason says:

    I see.

    So you want to give him credit for what he is not saying rather than being critical of what he is saying?

  894. jason says:

    In that case let me give Proud ObamaCON a modicum of credit too.

    He has not accused Trump of dealing heroin from a stash in the basement of Trump tower.

  895. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 8, 2017 at 11:14 am
    Let’s give Robbie a modicum of credit:
    Unlike Corey, he doesn’t think Trump is ushering in the Fourth Reich.

    – Glad to see I’m the topic of discussion and not the president. Priorities.

    I believe Trump can be a successful president, but the biggest obstacle he faces is the paranoia that fuels his Twitter feed.

  896. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m sorry that my team did not lose by 12 as predicted. Blame my best guard for hitting a 3 pointer in the last minute.

  897. Robbie says:

    Now that Trump has, for the moment at least, dipped below 50% approval in Rasmussen, which poll will take it’s place as the most important predictor at HHR?

    I’ve said this for many years here and it still bears repeating. Live by the tracking polls, die by the tracking polls.

    It’s the trend that matters and the trend has been better for Trump this week. He got a small bump from his speech to Congress, but now we wait to see how his numbers react, if any, to his wiretapping claims.

    One thing seems clear. The more Trump stays away from Twitter, the better he does.

  898. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 8, 2017 at 10:47 am
    I bet we won’t see much of Wobbie today.
    jason says:
    March 8, 2017 at 10:48 am
    He is busy, lots of very early spring crop dusting.

    – I work a rotating schedule. I rarely work the same days two weeks in a row and sometimes my schedule is (unfortunately) early morning biased and sometimes my day doesn’t get started until as late as 3 or 4. It’s tough on the sleeping patterns.

  899. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 7, 2017 at 1:40 pm
    Where is Robbie to let us know how Trump is screwing up today?
    I am getting withdrawal symptoms…..

    – No Internet connections available at high altitudes. Sorry I wasn’t here to make your day.

  900. NYCmike says:

    “for the moment at least”

    -Robbie,

    More breathless reporting on your part.

    This statement may end up on your tombstone.

  901. jason says:

    The problem with Wobbie is that once he gets an idea in his head, he will run with it even if the facts don’t support it, he is incapable of adjusting to any new information.

    He ran with the “McConnell is in trouble” narrative for a year, even when it was obvious his opponent was a complete twit. On the eve of the election, which McConnell won by 15, he was warning of some poll that was going to be devastating to McConnell.

    He ran with the “brokered convention” nonsense for months after it was obvious Romney was going to be the nominee.

    He repeated every MSM hit on Romney here like it was the most important “news”. Nothing was beneath him: the dog, the horse, the Cadillac, the elevator, even after Romney was nominated and none of that was in any way relevant.

    He trashed Rubio for a year even when it was obvious that Jeb’s problem was Jeb and Trump, not Rubio. He is still trashing him because he can’t let go of the idea that Rubio was responsible for Jeb’s debacle.

    Now he is has latched on to the MSM’s narrative that Trump’s WH is in complete disarray and falling apart and that is why Trump’s approval rating is “in the low 40’s”. Nothing is going to change his narrative even if Trump’s approval goes to 50%.

    You can give him credit. When he starts thinking on his own instead of just regurgitating what he reads in the MSM I will give him credit.

  902. NYCmike says:

    Make up for it now – what did Maggie at the NY Times tweet about in the last minute!?

  903. Mr.Vito says:

    “Now that Trump has, for the moment at least, dipped below 50% approval in Rasmussen, which poll will take it’s place as the most important predictor at HHR?

    I’ve said this for many years here and it still bears repeating. Live by the tracking polls, die by the tracking polls.”

    What is he even talking about? Only SDC brings up the Rasmussen poll in isolation…

    I guess he needed to create his own fake news this morning.

  904. Wobbles says:

    Reuters
    Approve 49.2%
    Disapprove 45.9%
    Mixed feelings 4.9%

    This polls does not fit my narrative.

    Trash it.

  905. jason says:

    LOL.

    Since Rasmussen “dipped below 50%” Wobbie is very excited and it is now very significant.

    So Wobbie, pray tell, what is the “problem” with the Reuter’s poll?

  906. jason says:

    No Internet connections available at high altitudes.”

    Maybe not in a crop duster, but just about every airliner now has Internet available at “high altitudes”.

  907. Mr.Vito says:

    Seventeen headlines again on RCP… two clearly anti-Trump.

    Just as the last time I did this… Both CNN.

  908. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 8, 2017 at 11:55 am
    No Internet connections available at high altitudes.”
    Maybe not in a crop duster, but just about every airliner now has Internet available at “high altitudes”.

    – Yeah, that’s what we pilots do during cruise flight. We surf the web. We’re not communicating with ATC, talking to dispatch, monitoring our progress on the FMS, receiving new routings for weather, briefing approaches, or determining weight for so we can determine the proper landing speeds.

    You may be dumber than I thought.

  909. Trump says:

    The problem for Robbie the Jeb coc$sucker is the lack of oxygen to his brain, derived from his mouth being glued to Jeb’s you- know-what.

    The more Trump tweets, the better for him. Without Twitter, Trump is the execrable Jeb Bush.

    See how the Russian meddling nonsense collapsed.

  910. Mr.Vito says:

    “You may be dumber than I thought.”

    Not as dumb as saying you had no internet connection when you could have said you were busy piloting a plane.

  911. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 8, 2017 at 12:02 pm
    “You may be dumber than I thought.”
    Not as dumb as saying you had no internet connection when you could have said you were busy piloting a plane.

    – Sorry to see you go down this road with Jason.

    Our operating procedures require us to turn off electronic devices before we proceed to the engine start checklist. Therefore, no internet connection is available to us until after we’re parked at the gate and the engines have been shut down.

  912. jason says:

    – Yeah, that’s what we pilots do during cruise flight. ”

    Ahh, so it’s “available”, you just don’t use it.

    So I am dumb, but you were the one that said “no Internet connections available at high altitudes.”

  913. Mr.Vito says:

    “Sorry to see you go down this road with Jason.”

    Nope.

    jason is questioning whether you are pilot, whereas I never have. You obviously gave an incredibly dumb answer to someone who doesn’t believe you.

  914. jason says:

    ur operating procedures require us to turn off electronic devices”

    Turning off devices does not make the Internet connections unavailable.

    But keep digging….

  915. jason says:

    I never questioned that he is a pilot.

  916. Trump says:

    Too many Jeb hits for the retarded monkey.

  917. jason says:

    However I hope I never fly with him. The inability to adjust to new information is not a good trait for a pilot.

  918. jason says:

    Meanwhile, I am busy going down the road with a sock puppet.

  919. Mr.Vito says:

    “I never questioned that he is a pilot.”

    Well, I meant as opposed to a cropduster…

  920. Mr.Vito says:

    “The inability to adjust to new information is not a good trait for a pilot.”

    Neither is his inability to recognize the difference between the merit of a point and the logic of a point.

  921. Robbie says:

    Jason

    We are not allowed to have handheld devices in anything other than “off” or “airplane mode”. We would be fired for surfing the web while on duty.

    You knew exactly what I meant when I said no Internet access available to us at cruise altitude.

  922. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 8, 2017 at 12:12 pm
    However I hope I never fly with him. The inability to adjust to new information is not a good trait for a pilot.

    – Yes, you are definitely one to change your mind. You still arguing Romney ran a good campaign. Even he admits he didn’t.

  923. Mr.Vito says:

    If he were at lower altitudes, he could watch porn, though.

  924. Barrett says:

    I’m digging this whole “day without a woman” thing. It means a bunch of emotionally unstable people who are unfit to work are not constantly shouting at me in the office.

  925. jason says:

    ” I said no Internet access available to us at cruise altitude”

    Except you didn’t say that.

    You said “no Internet connections available at high altitudes”.

    Which is BS. And you knew it was BS, you just thought maybe us ignorunt bumpkins didn’t know you can now get Internet on planes.

  926. jason says:

    You still arguing Romney ran a good campaign.”

    LOL

    This from someone who thought Jeb Bush was a viable candidate….

  927. Mr.Vito says:

    960 The married ones’ husbands wish it were actually true.

  928. jason says:

    Yes, you are definitely one to change your mind.”

    I am actually.

    I could still be on Never Trump mode like you, but I have moved on to what is relevant now.

    There is new information to process now that he is office making decisions.

    I know that is a difficult concept for you.

  929. jason says:

    I told my wife that the aftermath of a day without a woman might mean she will have to work twice as hard the next day to clean up the mess.

    I know, it’s a sign of weakness to give fair warning but hey, sue me, I am a nice guy.

  930. Mr.Vito says:

    After yesterday, the intelligence community is suddenly interested in finding leaks again.

  931. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 8, 2017 at 12:19 pm
    ” I said no Internet access available to us at cruise altitude”
    Except you didn’t say that.
    You said “no Internet connections available at high altitudes”.
    Which is BS. And you knew it was BS, you just thought maybe us ignorunt bumpkins didn’t know you can now get Internet on planes.

    – You knew exactly what I meant. Pilots flying aren’t in a position to surf the web when we’re on duty. Don’t be so petty.

  932. NYCmike says:

    Wow! – I would rather jason start speculating about Joe Miller primarying Trump in 2020 than keep reading about internet porn at Polaris’ 30,000 feet.

  933. NYCmike says:

    969

    Topsy Turvy!

  934. jason says:

    I said no Internet access available to us at cruise altitude”
    Except you didn’t say that.
    You said “no Internet connections available at high altitudes”.

    – You knew exactly what I meant.

    Translation: He didn’t say what he said he said.

  935. EML says:

    You knew exactly what I meant. Pilots flying aren’t in a position to surf the web when we’re on duty.
    ===============================
    Duty? What duty? People like me make it so pilots don’t have to do any real flying. You just sit in the cockpit and what as our computers do all the work.

  936. jason says:

    Wow! – I would rather jason start speculating about Joe Miller primarying Trump in 2020″

    I propose a “Day without morons at HHR”.

    NYC to complain in 3, 2, 1…..

  937. NYCmike says:

    EML is saying that Robbie can order Olive Garden takeout, and then eat it while his code flies the plane!

  938. jason says:

    Hey EML…

    What’s cooking?

  939. NYCmike says:

    “NYC to complain in 3, 2, 1…..”

    -Yes, I would complain…..I would be lonely here. 🙂

  940. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 8, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    You obviously gave an incredibly dumb answer to someone who doesn’t believe you.

    – This is ridiculous and you know it. My answer was not “incredibly dumb” as you suggested. It’s just a statement of fact that pilots on duty, regardless of the phase of flight, are not surfing the web (or they shouldn’t be). Our personal electronic devices, per SOP, must be either “off” or in “airplane mode”. We have switched to electronic flight bags, but we use our company issued iPads to access the POH and the necessary charts.

    I get that you don’t like my views on how Trump’s doing, but , but don’t let that cloud your judgement on everything I write.

  941. JC says:

    Some of you guys need to chill TFO

  942. jason says:

    There is worse than Olive Garden takeout.

    That is where you order, have to eat that crap, and then not satisfied you actually got it down, they give you an other order to take home.

    Reminds of the old joke, first prize 1 week’s vacation in Camden, second prize 2 weeks.

  943. EML says:

    What’s cooking?
    ============================
    I did some meatballs and sauce on Sunday, just have to do the homemade pasta when I get home from work.

  944. jason says:

    Hey JC, GFY.

  945. jason says:

    Ok, JC, that was a joke….

    Kinda.

  946. EML says:

    Big news in Binghamton the past couple weeks (besides that giraffe of course) is a new plaza opened up with a Chili’s and a Red Robin. Of course, the line was out the door for both on opening day. Barf.

  947. jason says:

    What was in the meatballs?

    I like to mix some ground lamb and veal in with the beef, or even ground pork.

  948. jason says:

    -Yes, I would complain…..I would be lonely here.”

    Not bad….

  949. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 8, 2017 at 12:43 pm
    I said no Internet access available to us at cruise altitude”
    Except you didn’t say that.
    You said “no Internet connections available at high altitudes”.
    – You knew exactly what I meant.
    Translation: He didn’t say what he said he said.

    – Yep, no Internet connection available to us because it’s not allowed since it’s against the rules and we’re required to have our personal devices either “off” or in “airplane mode”.

    Again, you knew exactly what I meant. You just chose to be petty which is par for the course for you.

  950. Mr.Vito says:

    “This is ridiculous and you know it.”

    Right, what you said was ridiculous. You could have said any of the 20 things you have since said… but you didn’t, allowing jason to keep it going. Dumb.

  951. EML says:

    I like to mix some ground lamb and veal in with the beef, or even ground pork.
    =================================
    Wegman’s meat department has a “meatball mix” which is beef, pork, and veal.

  952. NYCmike says:

    Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya,…..

  953. jason says:

    Dang, I missed the giraffe story in Binghamton…

    It must not have been in Huff Post or Wobbie would have posted it.

  954. Mr.Vito says:

    “Dang, I missed the giraffe story in Binghamton…”

    I hope it has nothing to do with the meatballs.

  955. NYCmike says:

    “You just chose to be petty”

    -Richard, Kyle, Lee, or Adam?

  956. jason says:

    Wegman’s is great. I drive to Harrisburg when I feel like going to a real supermarket.

  957. NYCmike says:

    “I drive”

    -Blasphemy!

  958. Mr.Vito says:

    “Richard, Kyle, Lee, or Adam?”

    Not Adam.

  959. EML says:

    Dang, I missed the giraffe story in Binghamton
    =============================
    I imagine that lisab has been glued to Youtube for the past 3 weeks watching the live feed of the pregnant giraffe not giving birth yet.

  960. jason says:

    Wobbie is still trying to explain that what he wrote was not actually what he wrote.

    Maybe Dave can make the thread disappear so that would be possible.

  961. NYCmike says:

    lisab is too busy making more sense than MD, “CG”, Author, and Robbie.

  962. jason says:

    Oh, this is about a birth?

    I thought it was an exotic food cook-out….

  963. NYCmike says:

    I can’t believe jason and Robbie are still going on with this…..and dragging a lone Sock along with them.

  964. SheikhVito says:

    ““I drive”

    -Blasphemy!”

    He’s a man. It’s okay.

  965. jason says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 8, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    “I drive”

    -Blasphemy!”

    Leave those terms for people who actually know what it means, like the Bishop

    Buggies are “driven” too.

  966. jason says:

    can’t believe jason and Robbie are still going on with this….”

    It must be entertaining enough for you to comment on it.

  967. Mr.Vito says:

    “I can’t believe jason and Robbie are still going on with this…..and dragging a lone Sock along with them.”

    and a New Yorker… who is quite a few posts behind apparently

  968. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Where is the claim that Trump is below 50% in the Rasmussen poll coming from? Rasmussen today has Trump at 51%-49%. Not aware of a Rasmussen poll that had Trump below 50%.

    USA Today/Suffolk poll has Trump approval at 47%-44%.

  969. EML says:

    Ras is 49-51 today, not 51-49.

  970. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    My mistake, I looked at Real Clear Politics today and saw the 51%-49% from yesterday. They have not posted the Rasmussen poll totals for today, which is unusual for them.

  971. Wobbles says:

    USA Today/Suffolk poll has Trump approval at 47%-44%”

    Another poll that does not fit my narrative.

    Trash it. Thanks.

    We are going with RAS today since it show a precipitous drop for Trump which I believe is what is happening and in line with what I read at sites with real journolism.

  972. jason says:

    Ras is 49-51 today,”

    Internet is not available on crop dusters above 150 ft, but Wobbie had an orgasm when he saw it after landing.

  973. Proud Obamacon says:

    #912
    “You can keep your doctor and premiums will go down.

    So Proud ObamaCON, was that a whopper?”

    I love how Jason and Phil don’t even try to defend the pussy grabber. Its all about Obama and Hillary LOL

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER

  974. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason and Phil logic: Obama and Hillary lied, so its ok for Groper in Chief to lie.

    Therefore, they acknowledge Pussy Grabber lies

    Hence, Jason and Phil support liars.

    Good to know

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVAHHHHHHHHHH

  975. Walt says:

    DRUDGE

    “Neanderthals used ‘aspirin’ for tooth pain…”

    Yes. We. Did.
    ________________________
    Damn Straight, we did.
    We might have been dumb Neanderthals, but we were not stoopid.

  976. NYCmike says:

    “It must be entertaining enough for you to comment on it.”

    -Simple minds, simple pleasures…..HEYYYYYY, wait a minute!

  977. Cash Cow TM says:

    “‘Day Without a Woman’ supporters got $246M from Soros”

    Pfft.

    Chump change for that liberal, whacko maniac who funds every liberal, subversive, community organizing, astroturf organization that is known to man.

    Pure EVIL of a human, I say.

  978. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.

  979. jason says:

    love how Jason and Phil don’t even try to defend the pussy grabber. Its all about Obama and Hillary LOL”

    Just pointing out what a scumbag hypocrite you are.

    Show me a post where you admit Obama was a pathological liar and you can criticize Trump for lying.

    Otherwise, GFY.

  980. jason says:

    Groper in Chief to lie.”

    Bill Clinton was the groper in chief.

    Show some respect for the copyright.

  981. Trump says:

    PO is the chief gropee, and she loves it.

  982. jason says:

    So ObamaCON, were you offended when Bill Clinton was accused of rape, sexual harassment, groping women and having sex with interns in the Oval Office or are just offended now that Trump talked about grabbing pussy with Billy Bush?

  983. jason says:

    ObamaCON is so distraught he actually is singling me out here as a big Trump supporter.

    Poor bastard needs psychiatric help.

  984. Trump says:

    As long as you pay her, of course.

  985. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A problem that has to be faced regardless is increased medical costs are becoming unsustainable. California’s has 1/3 of its population covered by Medi-Cal.

    “That said, the expansion of Medi-Cal hasn’t been cheap. 38 percent of California taxes are used to fund Medi-Cal, and Medicaid spending in California accounts for 27 percent of the state’s spending, as opposed to an average of 17 percent nationwide.”

    Source: https://www.healthinsurance.org/california-medicaid/

    If Obamacare is repealed, some estimates are the state will loss about $17 billion in federal funding, Medi-Cal has a budget in California of about 100 billion dollars. California this year is looking at about a 1.7 billion dollar deficit. This does not take into account the added costs of infrastructure repair after the floods, which Gov. Brown is asking for federal aid to pay.

  986. jason says:

    I think people in CA should pay more taxes.

    That is what they are voting for.

    Who am I to deny them.

  987. Barrett says:

    1013: Groper in Chief?

    Explain to me why I don’t hear about all of these “women accusers” on the news anymore? I read a lot and watch a lot, so don’t use that as an excuse.

    Where did they go? Did their checks from the DNC run out, so they decided to stop piling on Trump? Tell me why we don’t hear about them anymore.

    More like “Grab em’ by the Pennsylvania”

  988. Walt says:

    Duke wins 79-72 over Clemson.

    Suck it, Duke haters.

  989. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sandy Eggo,

    Everyone in CA, legal citizen or not, deserves both free medical care provided by the tax paying citizens of CA.

    Oh, and free college, too.

  990. jason says:

    And free bullet trains.

    And housing is expensive in CA, so free housing is essential.

    Those greedy vineyard owners producing wine for profit should distribute free wine to the poor.

    Once collective farming is instituted there will be free food for everyone. Except meat, that will be banned. There will be almond milk, almond bread, almond burgers and almond ice cream for all however.

  991. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1025. “Who am I to deny them.”

    Their following your advice, Brown is asking for something like a 42% increase in gas tax, and 141% increase in vehicle registration fees. Plus, the temporary income tax hike on high incomes was made permanent by the voters last year.

    Problem is the leftists in California spend money faster then they can raise it through new taxes.

    Besides increase medical costs, the pension deficit in California is going to demand the state put additional billions into the fund.

    Watching California politics is like watching the Titanic go down.

  992. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    California is already doing what it can to drive agriculture out. The new methane rules for dairy are an example. Believe California is the second or third highest producer of dairy products.

    http://www.capitalpress.com/California/20160830/california-dairy-industry-fights-unachievable-methane-mandate

    Then they limit water to farmers to save an aquarium fish in the Delta. Even now, do not believe they have removed the drought regulations.

  993. Wes says:

    Am I the only one offended neither by what Bill Clinton did (unless he did indeed rape Juanita Broderick) nor by what Trump said to Billy Bush?

  994. Mr.Vito says:

    Jon Huntsman accepted ambassadorship to Russia.

  995. NYCmike says:

    Makes sense that Wes keeps quoting from “A Clockwork Orange” and is not offended by Bill Clinton’s use of his political office to coerce women into sexual relations with him.

    I guess he has not undergone that treatment yet.

    Or, maybe he was “cured” of the treatment?

  996. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Jon Huntsman accepted ambassadorship to Russia.”

    Huh? Wha..?

    I thought Huntsman spoke Chinese, not Rooshan.

    If Trump gave Cash Cow the choice of being ambassador to China OR Russia…I would pick neither.

    Can;t think of any country I would want to go live in and be U.S. ambassador to…

    EXCEPT…

    LICHTENSTEIN, baby!

    They have an annual festivity where a cow decorated in flowers leads the parade and festivities!

  997. ??? says:

    ????

    ????????????????

    ????????????????

    ????????

    http://www.1688.zengda.xin/

  998. Cash Cow TM says:

    SSQ,

    Got a peak of Walt’s schedule calendar for the next 7 days I thought I’d share.

    He is off Thursday, but will be arse deep in work all day and evening he has to do for his noon meeting on Friday–while others on the team do makeup retesting TWO schools.

    Friday: Conduct a Meeting.
    Strategic nap in p.m.

    Saturday: a church retreat (whoop, whoop..).
    Nap in p.m.

    Sunday: church;
    do ‘catch up’ sleep in p.m.

    Monday: re-testing at a school (due to absences of students on the day we were at that school previously)
    Maybe nap in p.m.

    Tuesday: re-testing at another school;
    Then throw lanyard and badge in air (or off cliff) to celebrate end of the temporary, part time job.
    Drink heavily in p.m.

    Wednesday: Help Cash Cow find the culprit who is leaking the negative stu.ff on DJT.
    Complete work on the replacement legislation of ObamaCare in p.m.
    After supper, come up with plan to fill the $500MM gap in WV’s FY2018 general revenue budget.

  999. Wes says:

    Go drink some synthmesc moloko with your droogs, Mike. It may help you quit crarking your chepooka.

    Oh, and…

    Yarbles, bolshy great yarblockos to thee and thine.

  1000. Bitterlaw says:

    1032 Wes – we know that you are an amoral predator who preys upon emotionally damaged women. Be true to yourself.

  1001. Bitterlaw says:

    Suck it, Duke haters.

    Walt is soliciting?

  1002. NYCmike says:

    “Yarbles, bolshy great yarblockos to thee and thine.”

    -The Wes version of “relentless”?

  1003. lisab says:

    “I imagine that lisab has been glued to Youtube for the past 3 weeks watching the live feed of the pregnant giraffe not giving birth yet.”

    no … normally i probably would be interested

    but this year, i have responsibility for several students with special needs who are being mainstreamed

    omg … the paperwork is crushing. i almost spend more time grading, in meetings, and filling out mostly meaningless paperwork then actually teaching now.

  1004. ??? says:

    ????

    ????????????????

    ????????????????

    ????????

    http://www.1688.zengda.xin/

  1005. Tina says:

    Been out the oast day, but the fake russia trump collussion story appears dead.

    There will not be any serious investigation into the wiretapping by the obumbler.

  1006. Tina says:

    But, with his statement, a great way for trump to kill offhe collusion faked stories

  1007. jason says:

    Huntsman keeps getting jobs to get rid of him. I remember he got the China job because Dems were afraid he could mount a credible challenge to Obama. Now he probably won’t run for the Senate in Utah.

    According to the New Republic in 2009 not only does Huntsman like bad tacos, he decided to take the China job then because “he thought he couldn’t win the soul of the party this time around”.

    Read it and laugh…

    https://newrepublic.com/article/60927/huntsman-interrupted

  1008. jason says:

    Btw, Huntsman IS a good pick for Russia Ambassador.

    Nobody can accuse him of being a Trump loyalist and if Trump wanted to keep some hypothetical and nefarious collusion with the Russians going Huntsman is the last person he would pick.

  1009. NYCmike says:

    Huntsman is a survivor!

    I can’t believe the Queen did not have him killed after the Snow White kerkuffle. Imagine his luck when the dwarfs, and Mother Nature, dispatch her to the next world BEFORE she set her sights back on his “treachery”.

  1010. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/839791318020866048

    -One note: I am resigned to being let down by Congress, and Trump, regarding Obamacare. In fact, I always thought jason was correct in saying that Obamacare would only be tinkered with, because I believe my opinion of Congressional Republicans is correct, they are Big Government individuals, albeit much better than Democrats.

    That said, I held out hope that they would see the wisdom of a clean slate, despite the cries of “ALL” of those people losing coverage, and despite the political dangers inherent in such an attempt.

    After reading several days of articles, and listening to radio shows, the main fault I have found is the utter lack of communication about how Paul Ryan, Tom Price, and the Senate would proceed to alter Obamacare in such a way as to make it economically feasible, give it a long-term chance at solvency, and promote competition and cost reductions. Just this morning, a radio host was lamenting the fact that the ban of insurance across state lines had not been gotten rid of. I had read that this would happen in the 2nd, or 3rd step, yet radio hosts did NOT have a fact sheet handy to correct these mistakes. BAD MESSAGING, BAD JOB.

    Besides that, I am glad Hillary is not President.

  1011. jason says:

    Congress did not let you down. This is the mistake you are making. The train left the station is the problem.

    Elections have consequences. The election of Obama as President and a Senate majority was what determined Obamacare. The die on Obamacare was basically cast when it got 60 votes in the senate and was upheld by SCOTUS.

    Once an entitlement is approved and implemented its virtually impossible to reverse. My point all along was that the popular provisions of Obamacare would remain because you would have as much chance as reversing them as you would have reversing Social Security or Medicare. Once you have 20 million people covered that weren’t covered, even if its a bad bill, you are not going to be able to take that away.

    That is why the all or nothing approach is dumb. A lot can be done to at least make “Obamacare” more market friendly and less bureaucratic.

    Don’t blame the R congress for Obamacare. Blame the voters that elected the people that approved it.

  1012. jason says:

    Looks like Wobbie still does not have Internet connection available.

    So I will fill in, Wobbie wants everyone at HHR to know that the NYT, Huff Post, WAPO, AP, Reuters, USA Today, PBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, DKos, and LA Times all have negative stories on Trump.

    He will be here later to post them.

    ps: No need to thank me Wobbie, I know you are busy calculating the right landing speed.

  1013. NYCmike says:

    “Once an entitlement is approved and implemented its virtually impossible to reverse.”

    -I would look to South America, specifically Venezuela. “virtually impossible to reverse” comes rather quickly in some instances.

    The United States is obviously a much stronger nation than Venezuela, but numbers usually have the last laugh. We will eventually run out of other peoples money, and then their will be a reckoning.

    I would rather attempt to change this prevailing attitude (“virtually impossible) than to keep chugging towards the cliff.

    Again, I am resigned to be let down, because I do not have the faith in the people to change their attitude, and I don’t have faith in the people in Congress to withstand the criticisms and doubts thrown at them, if they would attempt a “clean slate” approach.

    That said, I am glad Hillary was not elected, and Republicans are in power, because at least the descent will be more manageable until the implosion occurs.

  1014. NYCmike says:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/323072-resistance-grows-in-senate-to-house-health-bill

    -Odd that we have Cruz, Paul, and Susan Collins expressing reservations. Maybe my distrust of Ryan and House moderates is misplaced. That is some feat to piss off those very different individuals.

  1015. Barrett says:

    “Again, I am resigned to be let down, because I do not have the faith in the people to change their attitude, and I don’t have faith in the people in Congress to withstand the criticisms and doubts thrown at them, if they would attempt a “clean slate” approach.

    That said, I am glad Hillary was not elected, and Republicans are in power, because at least the descent will be more manageable until the implosion occurs.”

    Mike, the truce continues! It is indeed very odd that Paul(Libertarian), and Collins(Moderate) agree with Ted Cruz on something so strongly.

  1016. Trump says:

    No wonder you morons get rolled every time.

    Just to be clear, there is no “ban” on interstate health insurance. They just let states set regulations regarding health insurance.

    If there is one place that requires the use of Commerce Clause to federalize the market, it is health insurance.

    Congress , both reps and Dems, avoid it because they are paid by the health insurance industry to limit competition and keep costs high.

  1017. Mr.Vito says:

    “That is some feat to piss off those very different individuals.”

    Since when?

  1018. jason says:

    I would rather attempt to change this prevailing attitude (“virtually impossible) than to keep chugging towards the cliff.”

    Zzzzzzz…let me know when you are able to change the prevailing situation where entitlements are virtually impossible to reverse.

    And to your point that we will eventually run out of money, I don’t disagree, but it doesn’t change the above.

    Being against certain entitlements and believing that once they are implemented they are impossible to reverse are two different concepts.

    Personally I think Social Security and Medicare should be means tested and the retirement age set at 70. Will it happen? No.

  1019. jason says:

    I would call their bluff.

    If Paul and Cruz want to own Obamacare as it is, let them vote against the replacement.

    They both love publicity, let them have it.

  1020. jason says:

    If I was Trump at dinner tonight, I would tell Cruz to feel free to vote against the replacement and own Obamacare as it is forever.

    And then say “the prime rib here is excellent”.

    As for Paul who is not a conservative, Republican or libertarian, they don’t need his vote, tell him to GFH.

    Collins won’t be the deciding vote on Obamacare, she has made her reservations known, but won’t vote against the replacement, you read it here first.

  1021. jason says:

    News you won’t see Wobbie talking about:

    “Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told ABC News he did not see anything to suggest that Russia successfully infiltrated Donald Trump’s presidential campaign or recruited any of Trump’s advisers – at least as of Jan. 20, when the retired three-star general left office.

    “There was no evidence whatsoever, at the time, of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” Clapper, a career intelligence officer, told ABC News’ Brian Ross in an interview Monday for “World News Tonight.”

  1022. Barrett says:

    Well, to be fair, Paul did call it “Obamacare-Lite”. So logically, Republicans would prefer Obamacare-Lite over Obamacare full.

    Paul will probably vote against it. Collins will probably vote for it. I have no idea what Cruz will do.

  1023. jason says:

    I don’t really think anything happened after January 20…..8)

  1024. Mr.Vito says:

    If the three extremes of the Senate are pi$$ed, it is probably the best bill they could come up with.

  1025. jason says:

    He will order the prime rib.

  1026. jason says:

    Republicans could have overhauled HC when they had the majority and the Presidency. They didn’t. The Democrats did. It sucks.

    But you have to play the hand you are dealt. And this bill does that.

  1027. Mr.Vito says:

    “Paul will probably vote against it. Collins will probably vote for it. I have no idea what Cruz will do.”

    They don’t need Paul or Cruz to have 50+tiebreaker.

  1028. Mr.Vito says:

    So, unless Cruz finds someone in the Senate who actually likes him, he has no leverage.

  1029. Barrett says:

    No they don’t. Fortunately Paul is irrelevant here.

    I feel bad for the guy. He doesn’t really have any friends.

  1030. Mr.Vito says:

    Little kid has no friends: feel bad

    Grown man in power has no friends: probably a reason

  1031. Barrett says:

    Sorry, that was a south park quote (actually in relation to Al Gore).

    No, I really don’t feel bad for Rand Paul. He takes ridiculous positions solely for the purpose of attention

  1032. NYCmike says:

    “If the three extremes of the Senate are pi$$ed, it is probably the best bill they could come up with.”

    -Which is why I wrote ““That is some feat to piss off those very different individuals.””.

    Thanks for acknowledging.

    Short of blowing it up and starting over with a clean slate, I am resigned to trying to let these 536 people decide how I make health decisions until I die.

    Wonderful.

  1033. NYCmike says:

    “I would call their bluff.”

    -Or you could go as far right as possible (as BayernFan outlined yesterday or the day before), and let the free market come up with solutions, along with the states.

    But, that would be deemed too risky by the people who hold the jobs that make that decision, aka incumbents.

  1034. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently I wrote clearly what you could not.

    Thanks for acknowledging.

  1035. NYCmike says:

    One other note:

    Not one word has been spoken about yearly and/or long-term deficits, so we are clearly operating on the Democrat playing field. If Republicans had done it correctly, our current and unfunded liabilities would have been spoken about first and foremost, so that the battlefield was prepared for some “casualties”.

  1036. Mr.Vito says:

    “as BayernFan outlined”

    you think outlawing insurance for 2 years is a conservative solution?

  1037. NYCmike says:

    He wrote “outlaw insurance”?

    I thought he wrote something about insurance being only catastrophic in nature, like auto/home, and having to pay ca$h.

  1038. Mr.Vito says:

    or even an outline?

  1039. NYCmike says:

    Let me find his comment, and I’ll get back to you.

  1040. Mr.Vito says:

    “He wrote “outlaw insurance”?”

    He certainly did. And then said, yes, doctors would leave and people would die but, tough cookies.

    If he came up with something after that, consider the source.

  1041. Mr.Vito says:

    Shouldn’t take long… it’s on this thread.

  1042. NYCmike says:

    Here it is, and I guess he did say “Ban…”.

    BayernFan says:
    March 7, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    Ban health insurance for say 2 years. Healthcare prices will plummet fast and by a lot. Equilibrium will be reached as providers scramble to cut costs and compete in the open market. After two years, health insurance can be sold. Premiums would be lower and catastrophic policies with high deductibles will be the norm. No HSAs. Employer provided health insurance taxed as ordinary income.

    Basically, force people to pay healthcare costs out of pocket, and to treat health insurance the same way they treat auto and property insurance.

    Problem solved.

  1043. NYCmike says:

    Once he wrote “Problem solved.”, he had me.

    He was correct on Trump, so I gave him too much credit.

    Sue me.

  1044. NYCmike says:

    It would be interesting to see how a market would re-create itself if all of the rules were abolished.

    I don’t understand why Bayern would outlaw insurance and HSA’s. Is that so it is taxed $$?

  1045. Barrett says:

    Don’t touch my HSA, Bayern.

    IMO, HSA’s help people balance cost of living with healthcare expenditures.

    You want to keep costs down? Give people the ability to judge for themselves.

  1046. Mr.Vito says:

    A lot of these rural folk that voted for Trump can’t pay out of pocket… without medicare/medicaid/subsidies they would just die from minor infections like in third world countries. Free clinics are a luxury for the urban. You see a lot in rural home care… you might be shocked to see how good people actually live.

  1047. Barrett says:

    I live in Northern Baltimore County, in a very rural area, which has the same population density as states like Iowa and Nebraska.

    My current healthcare plan is actually a discount plan. They cut the cost by a certain percentage, and give you an HSA to figure out how you want to address additional costs. It’s really just a numbers game, and it’s easily manageable, considering I have some heavy healthcare needs.

  1048. Mr.Vito says:

    And medicare already doesn’t pay for the visits these people need… the nurse or therapist is sometimes the only person they see that week, and end up saving their lives through heuristic ‘diagnosis’ far more often then any doctor… no one else sees subtle changes in their condition.

  1049. Mr.Vito says:

    “Donald Trump is asking congressional conservatives to go bowling.

    The president’s folksy blue-collar turn with members of the right-wing House Freedom Caucus, predicted in multiple news accounts, could be the first of several monthly or even weekly such get-togethers.

    That news came from a spokesman for Republican Representative Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania, a House Ways and Means Committee member who told Bloomberg that he’ll be slipping on a pair of bowling shoes next Tuesday.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4297946/Trump-invites-conservative-health-care-naysayers-BOWLING.html

    “Arizona Rep. Trent Franks, one of the Freedom Caucus members, told CNN that he’ll be at the bowling outing to hear the White House’s pitch, even if Trump only makes an appearance and doesn’t knock down any pins himself.

    Office of Management and Budget director Mick Mulvaney will be the main draw.

    ‘Invitations to the White House are not terribly uncommon, but if it gives us an opportunity to hear some reasonable input, then I’m excited to hear it,’ Franks said.

    ‘I think communication is a good thing, it doesn’t even have to be charming, you know, if that’s not conducive to effective communication.'”

  1050. Mr.Vito says:

    As I said, no bill was coming out when pieces and innuendo were being leaked and sabotaged on a daily basis. In the end you have to have a complete and scorable bill as a starting point for Mulvaney. Then you go from there… I had every confidence Mulvaney, Price, and Trump were going to give an opportunity for compromise from both sides.

  1051. Mr.Vito says:

    Meanwhile, every day it was “they don’t have a plan.”

  1052. Mr.Vito says:

    So far Ryan, McConnell, and Trump have done what they said they would do in the 200 day timetable they set out… taxes were after regulations and Obamacare, since there is no tax reform without first tackling this Obamacare “tax” first.

  1053. Barrett says:

    Overall, I give Trump fair marks. Besides, who would root against their president? That means the country would do poorly as well.

    He has
    – Gotten the ball rolling on the fence
    – Instituted a constitutional travel ban
    – Help reduce the cost of F-35’s for us and our allies

    Congress has
    – A plan to replace Obamacare
    – Will be working on taxes and regulations next.

    My grade would be a solid B at this point.

  1054. Mr.Vito says:

    Regulation was actually step one, since so many are simple executive rollbacks.

    A lot of them have been delayed because of the obstructionism in approving Cabinet positions.

  1055. Barrett says:

    Either way, it’s going to get done. If Democrats continue to delay the confirmation and vetting process, then it will spill over into the 2018 elections.

    I don’t think the public likes gridlock (I know I like it when stuff gets done). This could be a rare midterm where the president’s party doesn’t take a beating.

  1056. Mr.Vito says:

    If they don’t get things done, they will get shellacked.

    Polls have shown Congressional Republicans will squarely take the blame.

  1057. Mr.Vito says:

    When they got the house, they said they needed the Senate. Then they said they needed the Presidency.

    People didn’t trust them enough, so they got Trump instead of an ‘establishment’ candidate.

    Their patience is wearing thin.

  1058. Barrett says:

    On the other hand, Democrats have 23 seats they have to defend, and four off the top of my head are in Jeopardy (MT, FL, MO, and ND). Not to mention the possibility of Manchin switching parties.

  1059. Bitterlaw says:

    MC Bitter. Can’t touch this.

  1060. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn.

    MC

  1061. Barrett says:

    Close enough Bitter

  1062. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m 49. Premature numeration happens. I am dealing with it.

  1063. Bitterlaw says:

    Pretty interesting Walt used to visit New York when the dinosaurs roamed there. 1850s? Barely a moment in the Walt Era.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4293744/Seneca-Village-destroyed-make-way-Central-Park.html

  1064. jason says:

    NYC is now taking advice from “Obamacare or death” Bayern?

    LOL

    The only reason Bayern supported Trump was because he knew someone else would keep paying his health.

    Bayern defended Obamacare here for years.

    As they say, politics makes strange bedfellows.

  1065. jason says:

    Would keep paying his health care bills that should have read.

  1066. jason says:

    “The celebrity burglary thiefstravaganza continues … this time, crooks struck the L.A. home of Lakers star Nick Young (again!) and made off with $500K in cash and jewelry after taking his entire safe!!!

    Law enforcement sources confirm … Young’s Valley residence was hit in February when the bad guys entered through an unlocked door and pilfered the NBA star’s valuables.

    We’re told crooks took roughly $30k in cash plus 3 gold chains, a custom ring and a locked safe containing other valuables.”

    Maybe Obama was right, you can have too much money if you leave $30k lying around, not even IN the safe.

  1067. jason says:

    It finally happened, lying and setting your pants on fire?

    MIAMI (AP) — A Miami defense attorney is feeling the heat after his pants caught fire as he delivered closing arguments in an arson case.

    Witnesses told the Miami Herald 28-year-old Stephen Gutierrez was fiddling in his pocket Wednesday while addressing jurors when smoke started billowing from his pants. At the time, he was arguing that his client’s car spontaneously combusted and wasn’t intentionally set on fire.”

  1068. Barrett says:

    about time…

  1069. jason says:

    Dang, according to Corey the only reason the Bears win 4 or 5 games a year was because of Cutler’s stellar performance.

  1070. Trump says:

    The la raza pimp Jason swings and misses, as usual.

    If Bayern wanted someone else to pick up his health care costs, why wouldn’t he support Hillary? Or Kasich?

  1071. jason says:

    Corey was ok with the Bears having losing seasons and not making the playoffs because after all, Cutler was playing really well. The problem was the defense, the offense, the special teams, the coaches, the stadium, the schedule, the trainers, the cheerleaders, the weather and the officiating.

  1072. jason says:

    Because Trump made clear he was not touching entitlements and Bayern knew he was not going to gut Obamacare either.

    Next question?

  1073. jason says:

    Maybe soccer moron was not here during the years Bayern thought Obamacare was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  1074. jason says:

    raza pimp Jason”

    It’s la raza pimp jason to you, thanks.

    Btw, I am maxed out on points on the la raza pimp thing, do you have any new material?

    And speaking of la raza, get ready to commit suicide when Trump makes a deal with the Dems on immigration, its coming. The Dreamer thing is only the first step.

  1075. Bitterlaw says:

    Where is Walt? I want to ask him what was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread?

  1076. Trump says:

    Maybe the la raza limp is the stupidest thing since sliced bread.

    If someone loves Obamacare, why would they support trump and not Hillary or Kasich?

  1077. Trump says:

    Has your kin been deported yet? How long can they hid in the basement?

  1078. Coree says:

    I think that it is Trump’s fault that Cutler is no longer with the Bears. It is another sign of America’s moral decline.

  1079. Bitterlaw says:

    If someone loves Obamacare, why would they support trump and not Hillary or Kasich?

    Because they knew Trump would stay true to his Democratic roots and not really push to really gut it. He promised to replace it and that meant something similar.

  1080. Trump says:

    The stupid lawyer chimes in with another illogical comment.

    Why not safe bets like Hillary or Kasich?

    They would only expand Obamacare.

  1081. Trump says:

    The moronicity is thick in this place, with la raza pimp and the stupid lawyer spouting off like it is pre- election.

  1082. Bitterlaw says:

    At least Soccer Moron admits that I am a lawyer after denying it for months. Little steps.

  1083. Trump says:

    A fake lawyer.

  1084. Trump says:

    Explain the logic, idiot.

    Why 5trump and not Hillary or Kasich for Obamacare lover?

  1085. Barrett says:

    “Maybe the la raza limp is the stupidest thing since sliced bread.”

    Soccor moron is getting his idioms wrong. Sounds like someone must have struck a nerve with him.

  1086. Trump says:

    The same stupid thinking that drove your primary and general election thinking.

    Struggle to add 2 + 2

  1087. Bitterlaw says:

    A fake lawyer.

    Can’t retract it now, genius.

    Maybe the Obamacare lover also wanted a stronger military and hated Hillary. Both can be true.

  1088. Barrett says:

    Trump says:
    March 9, 2017 at 2:44 pm
    A fake lawyer.

    VERY little steps, it would appear.

  1089. Trump says:

    Still waiting for the logic behind an Obamacare lover supporting Trump instead of Hillary or Kssich.

  1090. Barrett says:

    Bitter, you aren’t supposed to possess that type of logic if you can’t add 2+2. Soccer Moron said so.

  1091. Trump says:

    One stupid idiot after another.

    So why did you ignore Kasich, idiot? He does not support strong military,Nathan?

  1092. Barrett says:

    #1131 – A person who doesn’t believe Trump would repeal Obamacare.

    I don’t know how much simpler the argument could be broken down. Do you need us to use colors or shapes? Unfortunately we can’t on this forum.

  1093. Trump says:

    Go f yourself, moron. Who asked you to prop up the other stupid idiots?

    They can’t handle themselves?

  1094. Barrett says:

    They can handle themselves just fine. I was trying to answer your ridiculously easy question.

    Did the answer make sense? If not, Amazon sells a book called “Logic for the young and inept.” According to Bunu it’s a good read.

  1095. Trump says:

    Did you read it, stupid? And understand?

    Doesn’t seem like it.

  1096. Trump says:

    The fake lawyer moron still does not get taxes and penalty. One stupid bitter lawyer.

    The other is a dyed in the wool la raza pimp.

    Where do you fit in?

  1097. jason says:

    Bayern knew someone else would pay for his HC whether it was Hillary or Trump, I made that point many times here.

    Of course Bayern also believed Obama when he said premiums would come down, so he is the gullible type.

    But as most of us predicted, he had nothing to worry about.

  1098. jason says:

    Dang, I am going to have to give Barrett some points if he is elevated to la raza pimp and stupid bitter fake lawyer status.

  1099. Barrett says:

    If I’m not offending Soccer Moron, then I’m not doing it right.

    Why don’t you just call me a self indulgent pos? That about par for the course in regards to your vocabulary.

  1100. Bitterlaw says:

    I blame Transparent Dem Troll for this mess. We all have to share bashing Trump. We used to have multiple trolls here.

  1101. jason says:

    someone loves Obamacare, why would they support trump and not Hillary or Kasich?

    Because Trump made it clear he would not touch entitlements, something no other Republican did.

    “Throughout the presidential campaign, Trump promised to stay away from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

    In March 2013, Trump told the crowd at CPAC: “As Republicans, if you think you are going to change very substantially for the worse Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security in any substantial way, and at the same time you think you are going to win elections, it just really is not going to happen.”

  1102. Trump says:

    You call yourself whatever suits you. If you want self indulgent pos, it is yours.

  1103. Barrett says:

    Score!

  1104. Trump says:

    How many points do you get for being a self indulgent piece of sh&it?

    Or do you have to check with the la raza pimp or the fake moron lawyer?

  1105. jason says:

    Here we go…. also as predicted.

    “Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has called on Congress to raise the United States debt limit “at the first opportunity.”

    In a letter to congressional leaders dated Wednesday, Mnuchin said the Treasury will stop issuing certain state and local securities on March 15, when the most recent suspension of the debt limit expires. Mnuchin said the Treasury will likely start taking “extraordinary measures” the next day, when the U.S. will be at its statutory limit, to prevent default.

    “As I said in my confirmation hearing, honoring the full faith and credit of our outstanding debt is a critical commitment. I encourage Congress to raise the debt limit at the first opportunity so that we can proceed with our joint priorities,” Mnuchin wrote.

  1106. jason says:

    Of course as Trump said, just keep printing money.

  1107. jason says:

    You have to give Soccer Moron a break…

    He is unhinged because his prediction that Trump would lose and take down the entire GOP didn’t happen.

    Remember “as long as the GOP is destroyed” he didn’t care about the election?

  1108. jason says:

    It will be fun to see how many Dem hypocrites vote against raising the debt limit….

  1109. Mr.Vito says:

    1142 Bingo.

    Conservatives want a conservative bill… but their champion lost. The populist won. It has to be a compromise solution.

  1110. Barrett says:

    Too bad we don’t have the pragmatic compromiser

  1111. Mr.Vito says:

    Yes, there is no doubt she would inviting the Freedom Caucus over for bowling.

  1112. PresidentPaul! says:

    The conservative approach is either full repeal or let the markets fail on their own with no bill.

    I’ve always been an advocate of focusing on tax cuts this year rather than wasting time on creating a bad bill especially since their is only one reconciliation bill per year.

  1113. jason says:

    I rest my case, Bunu doesn’t like the bill.

    Anyone need further proof its probably a good bill?

  1114. jason says:

    So Bitter, what do you think of the lawyer whose pants caught fire as he made the case that it wasn’t arson, it was “spontaneous combustion”.

    And lisab doesn’t believe in God…

  1115. jason says:

    How many points do you get for being a self indulgent piece of sh&it?”

    Well, it depends on the source.

    There is a 50% deduction if the source is a moron, so there’s that.

    Sorry, Barrett.

  1116. jason says:

    “the conservative approach”

    Bunu, do you really think you are a conservative?

    That would be like Jeffrey Dahmer claiming to be a vegetarian.

  1117. Bitterlaw says:

    How many points do you get for being a self indulgent piece of sh&it?

    Hmmmmm. If you actually are a self indulgent piece of sh&it then you do not receive any points. If you are not, it depends on how many times Soccer Moron repeats it before the total can be calculated.

  1118. jason says:

    Dang, Soccer Moron has a very limited repertoire that is repeated non-stop.

    Barrett could clean up.

  1119. jason says:

    Good news.

    The moonbats have their own deadenders with NYC’s strategy that its better to have someone who votes against you 100% of the time rather than someone who only votes with you 90% of the time.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/321895-liberal-groups-threatening-manchin-primary-to-deliver-petition-to-remove-him

  1120. Barrett says:

    What if I am self indulgent, but not a piece of sh!t?

    The calculations here could get heavy. But I intend to clean soccer moron’s clock.

  1121. Bitterlaw says:

    Barret – The fact that Soccer Moron took the time to give you a unique insult counts a great deal. “Indulgent” is a big word for him. More points.

  1122. Waingro says:

    #1150, and people forget: until Pence came on board, Trump was originally advocating for a form of single payer insurance (“the government is gonna pay for it” re: ALL hospital care).

    The reconciliation bill that has come out of the House (so far) is far more conservative than anything candidate Trump was endorsing. And there is still room for some negotiation.

  1123. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It appears oil will begin flowing through the Dakota Access Pipeline next week.

    This after a judge rejected what may have been one of the most ridiculous lawsuits every filed. A local Indian tribe claimed the pipeline would have violated their religious rights involving the sacred waters of Lake Oahe, under which the pipeline will run.

    The fact a waste water treatment plant released water into the lake, and that there was an existing natural gas pipeline running parallel to the proposed pipeline under the lake did not impact this argument. Here is why the tribe claimed the oil pipeline was different (from the court decision ruling against them)

    “The difference between the natural-gas pipeline and DAPL is that the Tribe believes that the crude oil that is proposed to flow through the latter is the fulfillment of a Lakota prophecy of “a Black Snake that would be coiled in the Tribe’s homeland and which would harm . . . [and] devour the people.” … According to Vance, the oil in DAPL, like the Black Snake, “is black, it is slippery, and it moves.” Id. As to the other oil pipelines upstream of Lake Oahe, Cheyenne River asserts that only Lake Oahe constitutes its “area of concern.” TRO Tr. at 14:24; see also id. at 15:3-5 (“[W]e’re not concerned about oil pipelines that may be somewhere above outside of waters that we own in Lake Oahe.”). The record is not clear whether the Black Snake prophecy was made before or after Lake Oahe was created nearly 60 years ago. The Tribe’s brief contends that “Lakota religious adherents now in their 50s and 60s were warned of the Black Snake by their elders as children,” prophecy was made “[l]ong ago.” Vance Decl., Presumably, the prophecy was issued after Lake Oahe was created; otherwise, the presence of pipelines upstream of the lake, including one that crosses 7.5 miles to its north, would be hard to reconcile with the Tribe’s belief that DAPL alone is the Black Snake”

    A multi-billion dollar project was delayed because Obama pandered to this sort of nonsense.

  1124. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Have not checked Zogby polling in some time; Zogby has Trump’s favorable rating at 48%-43%. Similar to Reuters 48%-46% favorable. Rasmussen still at 49%-51% unfavorable. Considering daily bias media attacks on Trump, am not seeing much change in his polling numbers.

  1125. lisab says:

    So Bitter, what do you think of the lawyer whose pants caught fire as he made the case that it wasn’t arson, it was “spontaneous combustion”.

    And lisab doesn’t believe in God…
    ———————————–

    an agnostic secularist actually, not an atheist

  1126. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought that lisab was a Wiccan.

  1127. jason says:

    lisab is a vegetarian utopian socialist agnostic secularist.

    They are known as VUSAS.

  1128. Trump says:

    The la raza pimp and the fake lawyer still sucking each other’s dic$s, and the Barrett blob wants to join in?

    Go at it, suckers.

  1129. jason says:

    “AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) – Texas on Tuesday executed a man convicted of accepting $2,000 to murder a woman from the victim’s husband and her brother-in-law, who were looking to collect $400,000 from life insurance policies they took out on her.

    Roland Ruiz, 44, was put to death by lethal injection at the state’s death chamber in Huntsville for the murder of Theresa Rodriguez, 29, in 1992 in the San Antonio area, a prisons official said.

    The two brothers were each given life sentences.”

    This is a clear case of you get what you pay for. Greedy bastards should have paid a lot more for a competent hit man. They invested $2k to get $400K?

    The only injustice here is that they weren’t executed too.

  1130. jason says:

    and the Barrett blob?

    Blob?

    No points for blob.

  1131. lisab says:

    I thought that lisab was a Wiccan.
    ———————————–
    wiccans are theists

    i can appreciate the beauty of the autumnal equinox, without necessarily believing in the goddess diana

  1132. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    How about the goddess Mabel, the goddess of frying pans? She is not well known because she once wacked Zeus on the head and got kicked out of the Pantheon.

  1133. lisab says:

    again … not a theist myself

    however, i do appreciate a good iron frying pan

  1134. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1174. So your not a Theist, but a Steelist.

  1135. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/if_at_first_you_dont_succeed_as_rumored_state_sen._mcdaniel_looks_to_primar

    Mississippi state Sen. Chris McDaniel looks to primary challenge Sen. Wicker who may be supporting Paul-Ryan Care the GOP’s new entitlement program.

  1136. jason says:

    McDaniel is a deadender moron.

    I doubt he can beat Wicker, his best chance was Cochran.

  1137. lisab says:

    So your not a Theist, but a Steelist.
    —————————————-

    iron is not the same as steel

  1138. lisab says:

    korea impeached its president

  1139. lisab says:

    ALL IN THE FAMILY: Malik Obama shares photo of brother Barack’s ‘certificate of birth’…
    ————————————

    born in kenya

  1140. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1180. Fake. Have the goddess Mabel wack Malik O. in the head with a divine frying pan.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4299872/Malik-Obama-tweets-Barack-s-forged-birth-certificate.html

  1141. Cash Cow TM says:

    FOR PETE’S SAKE, DAVE…

    GIVE US A CLEAN SHEET OF PAPER!

  1142. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt’s favorite statue has been found. I think he worked on it when he lived in Egypt.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4297944/Colossus-probably-depicting-Ramses-II-Egypt.html

  1143. NYCmike says:

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/39761-on-labor-and-beyond-trump-is-following-scott-walker-s-playbook

    -Instapundit linked to this article.

    I am still trying to figure out what the author is complaining about. 🙂

  1144. Barrett says:

    Ah dammit, I get downgraded from “Self Indulgent POS” to “Barrett Blob”

    No points for me today

  1145. jason says:

    Man-up Barrett, Soccer Moron is an endless source of points…

  1146. Bitterlaw says:

    Soccer Moron giveth. Soccer Moron taketh. It is the way of the moron.

  1147. jason says:

    Ok we are all here. Where is the fake Trump supporter?

  1148. jason says:

    Haven’t seen Wobbie around much.

    Is there a dearth of anti-Trump “news”?

  1149. jason says:

    Snowed cats and dogs here but now its all melting. I would like to get over to Hochstetlers market they are having a 2-1 sale on smoked ham hocks.

  1150. Barrett says:

    #1191 – Actually, CNN is saying that Trump is on track with his promise to create 25 million jobs in 10 years…so no bad news

  1151. jason says:

    Wobbie hardest hit.

  1152. Bitterlaw says:

    The Voice of a New Generation has gone all in. Might as well just post at DailyKos, Author.

    https://twitter.com/authorlmendez?lang=en

  1153. jason says:

    Even Rolling Stone mag is having cold feet on the Trump – Russia collusion story…

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/taibbi-russia-story-is-a-minefield-for-democrats-and-the-media-w471074

  1154. Bitterlaw says:

    MD is also raging against Trump but at least he has not become a cheerleader for the Dems.

  1155. NYCmike says:

    “MD is also raging”

    -“relentless”.

  1156. NYCmike says:

    Wissing seems to have given up as well…..there is NOT one new poll out there?

  1157. NYCmike says:

    ….1….

  1158. NYCmike says:

    Ignition……

    MCC

  1159. jason says:

    Where is MD posting?

  1160. Bitterlaw says:

    He is on twitter. I won
    t post the link but a google search with his full name will find it.

  1161. NYCmike says:

    He is the “M…..D…..” who responds to Author occasionally, correct?

  1162. jason says:

    Ah ok if you talk to him tell him I hope he comes back to HHR.

  1163. jason says:

    Btw, what happened to TGCA….wasn’t he a big Trump supporter?

  1164. Sheeple Jr says:

    PROSECUTORS PINK-SLIPPED: Attorney General Jeff Sessions has asked for resignations of 46 remaining US Attorneys

    Good News!

  1165. NYCmike says:

    http://nypost.com/video/lying-cop-doesnt-know-uber-driver-was-actually-a-lawyer/

    -Bitterlaw,

    Is this you? Were you visiting your brother(in-law?)?

  1166. jason says:

    I don’t have twitter. Or FB.

    I guess I could ask the deacon for special dispensation.

  1167. NYCmike says:

    “Btw, what happened to TGCA”

    -He didn’t feel the need to remind how wrong you were to sit on your hands in the general election.

    He’ll be back eventually.

  1168. NYCmike says:

    “Ah ok if you talk to him tell him I hope he comes back to HHR.”

    -Yes, my sentiment as well…..I am sure he has some more wisdom which he could impart to me.

  1169. NYCmike says:

    https://heatst.com/politics/study-hillary-clinton-ran-one-of-the-worst-campaigns-in-years/

    -As hard as I want to, I can’t bring myself to feel any empathy for this person.

    Off to confession I go……

  1170. Wes says:

    I guess, just as Joe Miller in Alaska, Chris McDaniel has not quite realized voters take a dim view of a sore loser who tries to overturn the election process after his loss.

    People such as Norm Coleman and John Thune had legitimate gripes about phantom votes’ costing them elections, but they didn’t drag the process on and on ad infinitum and ad nauseum make themselves look like fools in the process.

  1171. Bitterlaw says:

    Btw, what happened to TGCA….wasn’t he a big Trump supporter?

    I think he refuses to come back until we talk about ABORTION!

  1172. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Author is the voice of a new generation.”

    So that means the USA is about to become a communist hub like Venezuela if that’s the new generation sentiment.

  1173. PresidentPaul! says:

    The world’s greatest female grappler entering the UFC but has crazy weight issues since she is still doing BJJ competitions as well

    That leaves Dern with the unenviable task of either being undersized at bantamweight or learning how to shed weight to make strawweight. While Miletich believes the proper solution is more weight classes, he says her refusal to give up jiu-jitsu competitions and bouncing around between multiple weights is also a major factor.

    And

    That leaves Dern with the unenviable task of either being undersized at bantamweight or learning how to shed weight to make strawweight. While Miletich believes the proper solution is more weight classes, he says her refusal to give up jiu-jitsu competitions and bouncing around between multiple weights is also a major factor.

    “Every time you have to cut weight it’s a mental and physical roller coaster,” he said. “Doing it for two combative sports is even harder. She goes up that big hill for a jiu-jitsu competition, comes down, then has to climb right back up another hill for MMA. It’s exhausting.

    “I had a talk with her and said, ‘Maybe it’s time to put the jiu-jitsu away. You’re a two-time world champion. Why not focus on this MMA thing for a while?’ At some point, she’s going to have to get this dialed in if she wants to go to the UFC.”

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2697184-mackenzie-dern-may-be-the-next-ronda-rousey-but-is-that-a-good-thing

  1174. NYCmike says:

    Author is so worried about Trump that he upped his Disney trips to every other week.

  1175. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The pathetic New York Times, which last year predicted California was in a period of “unending drought” tried to give a lame defense of its claim today. It was a love letter to the climate brilliance of Gov. Moonbeam. It is a total joke.

    “But Mr. Brown has seen enough droughts over his 78 years in California to know the risks. The snowpack, a central cog in California’s nature-defying system of providing water to 40 million people, is ephemeral: A warm April or May could melt it away. That happened, to some extent, last year. The reason is climate change”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/california-drought-snowpack.html?src=twr&smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

    The claim a snow pack as large as this year’s could melt away in two months is idiotic; any snow melt would go into reservoirs that are at or near capacity, and have enough water for several years. A lot of water is being moved to Southern California storage facilities. A few more reservoirs would be beneficial, but Brown refused to build them since there would be no water for them because of permanent drought.

  1176. chicon says:

    This joint needs a Presidential Tweet to perk things up a bit……

  1177. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1218. Agree. Trump appears to be settling in, and the liberals resigned to his presidency. They are even pulling back from believing he is a Russian front man.

  1178. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6lSSW5U4AAj9C9.jpg

    Jorge Ramos is actually the ghost of Anderson Cooper past.

  1179. PresidentPaul! says:

    It’s a scam.

    PAUL RYAN REPLACES OBAMACARE’S INSURANCE PENALTIES WITH EVEN LARGER PENALTIES
    Paul Ryan’s Obamacare-lite plan will replace Obamacare’s health mandate penalty with an even larger penalty

    https://www.infowars.com/paul-ryan-replaces-obamacares-insurance-penalties-with-even-larger-penalties/

  1180. jason says:

    I love it that Bunu is endorsing the bill by opposing it.

  1181. Tina says:

    Is russia trump collussion dead?

    Is ryano care advancing?

  1182. Tina says:

    Tapper: My son calls me “fake news” when I bother him

    Lol, your name is Fake Tapper.

  1183. jason says:

    Is russia trump collussion dead?

    Is ryano care advancing?”

    I hope yes on both counts.

  1184. jason says:

    Interesting factoid… Trump did better than Romney in 4 out of 5 NYC boroughs…

    BOROUGH ROMNEY TRUMP
    Manhattan 14.9 10.0
    Brooklyn 16.9 17.9
    Queens 19.9 22.1
    Bronx 8.1 9.6
    Staten Island 48.1 57.2

    Don’t think its interesting? GFY

  1185. Chicon says:

    Those Bronx numbers are amazing – similar to those racked up by Putin’s opponents…

  1186. jason says:

    Staten Island numbers are impressive…almost 60% of the vote…

    10% in Manhattan is pitiful…. for a local.

  1187. jason says:

    However, it fits the theory that I advanced before the election that Hillary’s 3 point advantage in the national polls incorporated a lot of “wasted” votes in NY and CA, and that in that case if Trump was within 2 points he could well win.

    Hillary left half a million votes on the table in Manhattan alone.

  1188. Chicon says:

    They’re all (except Staten Island) pitiful for a democracy. Not sure it is a good thing for us to have such deep red and deep blue areas within the country. There’s often discussion about the assimilation of immigrants; well, things are trending away from assimilation among lifelong citizens. On the other hand, it has been that way in the cities for a long time now.

  1189. Wes says:

    I would postulate Hillary failed to capitalize on her big wins in the urban areas because unlike Obama, she had little to no appeal in suburban, exurban, and rural areas. Margins in big cities are fine, but unless one is in a state absolutely dominated by a core urban area such as New York, winning overwhelmingly there is at best a dicey prospect for a statewide win.

    Two cases in point:

    In both North Carolina and Pennsylvania, Hillary clobbered the Donald in major urban areas. Meanwhile, Trump ginned up support among voters Hillary ignored and carried both states. Although I expected Trump to fall just short in the Keystone State, here among Tarheels, I correctly saw tremendous enthusiasm for him among voters he needed to carry the state and assessed the race at a 2/3-point win for him. He won by 3.

    Pennsylvania was a different animal. Recent trends in the 2014 statewide elections and 2015 court elections suggested Trump would be unable to get his voters to the polls. Defying the odds, Trump swamped Hillary outside the major urban centers and eked out a victory despite the fact that Hillary hit her targets in critical areas for her, particularly in Philadelphia.

    Despite solidifying the Democrats’ 88-year hold on urban areas that began when Al Smith created the basis for the 1930s Roosevelt coalition by dominating virtually all urban areas despite losing badly to Herbert Hoover in 1928, Hillary not only ignored the GOP-leaning voters who had turned out in force in 2014 but actively denigrated and disparaged them, thus causing a massive negative reaction for her candidacy in areas critical to a Trump win.

    This was a far different campaign strategy from what Obama had employed in 2012, wherein the 44th President held together his urban coalition but by populist appeals to class warfare undercut Romney’s margins in the same areas Trump would later need for victory. Of course Obama’s 2012 victory was somewhat pyrrhic in this regard as while he tamped down Romney’s margins in non-urban areas, he nonetheless still lost voters outside his core urban areas, thus accounting for his being the only President ever to win a second term while losing ground on all facets of a presidential election and setting the stage for the Trump coalition, the latter’s victory presaged by Romney’s flipping two states heavily courted by Obama in 2008–North Carolina and Indiana–and reducing Obama’s margins outside core Democrat states.

    Whether Trump created a longstanding coalition that can sustain Republicans in upcoming elections is unclear. Nonetheless, his victory shows a clear path for Republicans to exploit to victory in the near term if they can manage to sustain enthusiasm among predominantly white non-urban voters in the years to come.

    Early indications are that Democrats have not learned the lesson of 2012 as indicated by the rise to the top of their presidential ranks by Liz Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, and Cory Booker–all check-the-box liberals–in contrast to less potentially offensive (though probably realistically no less liberal) potential candidates such as Andrew Cuomo and John Hickenlooper.

    If Democrats do, however, embrace verbal moderation over firebrand liberalism and divisive politics in 2020, then Trump may be in trouble, for a candidate not so stridently vindictive toward the majority of voters in the country as Hillary Clinton may well be able to undercut him in areas he dominated this time, especially if Trump should preside over an unpopular foreign policy debacle (unlikely) or economic downturn (possible) in 2019 and 2020.

  1190. Wes says:

    Interestingly Wikipedia says Democrats actually won the overall vote for the Senate last year by 11 million votes. I would guess that’s because two Democrats faced off for Senate in California (the only state not to feature a Senate candidate from one of the major parties), thus effectively giving Democrats a free seat in the Senate.

    Talk about leaving votes on the table.

    California is a political banana republic whose existence negatively distorts national politics. We should let the moonbats out there secede and form their own Venezuela-style nation so we no longer have to be afflicted with their idiocy.

  1191. Wes says:

    In the Department of Delusion, South Dakota Democrats–all 10 of them, I guess–are saying Stephanie Herseth Sandlin would defeat Kristi Noem in the race to replace Dennis Daugaard as Governor. I suppose Democrats in that state haven’t exactly been paying attention to the state’s partisan trends since Obama took office:

    Noem defeated Herseth Sandlin in 2010 and won reelection by 16%, 34%, and 28% in succeeding elections.

    Democrats are now only a handful of the memebers of the State Legislature despite having robust minorities in each house after the 2006 and 2008 elections.

    Despite running a fairly lackluster campaign, Mike Rounds won Tim Johnson’s Senate seat in 2014 easily, besting Rick Wieland by 21 points and eliminating Democrats from the state’s congressional delegation for the first time since 1962.

    Trump throttled Hillary in the state by nearly 30 points last year.

    In addition, Noem is a tireless campaigner fully in line with her state’s voters and a remarkably strong fundraiser who’s done nothing to alienate the voters while serving in Congress.

    As such, I think while Herseth Sandlin could possibly make a race against Noem closer than any other local Democrat, I wouldn’t expect Kristi to win by less than 10 unless the Panic of 1893 or Great Depression hits again while Trump is President.

  1192. Wes says:

    Interestingly South Dakota is the state with the current longest reign of a single party in the governorship. Democrats last won the office in 1974 and have never come close since despite actually usually having an edge in the nonpresidential federal races from 1970 to 2008.

  1193. Phil says:

    Does Sandlin really want to lose to Noem again? She already lost when she had the advantage of incumbency. She has no such advantage now and would lose by double digits.

    She knows she has no chance and will not run.

  1194. chicon says:

    1233 – Wes, is that just a long-winded, fancy way of saying that Noem is hot?

  1195. Wes says:

    Personally I think Herseth Sandlin is done with politics, Phil. Losing to Bill Janklow in 2002 didn’t really hurt her that much because she held a popular Governor to an eight-point victory. She narrowly won the seat in 2004 and held it even as Daschle lost later that year. She then became the state’s most popular politician and won twice by about 40 points.

    Then in 2010, she faced an unknown two-term State Legislator repeatedly derided by the Democrats as a Sarah Palin clone and suffering under Democrat attacks on a dubious driving record.

    Nonetheless, Kristi won by a little over 7,000 votes and stomped each Democrat unlucky enough to face her in 2012, 2014, and 2016.

    I think South Dakota Democrats realize there’s literally no one else on the horizon as Republicans have steadily increased control over the state since 2010 and are just hoping the one of the last two Democrats to win statewide office there will serve as their white knight and save them from the same kind of political oblivion Hawaii Republicans are currently suffering.

    I doubt she’s even seriously considering the race and will decline to run against Kristi in an at best uphill race in a state her party is nearly moribund in.

  1196. Wes says:

    Kristi is hot, Chicon. I was strictly focusing on her remarkably solid political skills though. I think she would make a great President someday.

    For the record, Kristi, Jaime Herrera-Beutler, and Richard Burr are my personal favorite members of Congress.

  1197. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Wow, Tina seriously became unhinged. Seriously if your IQ is under 100, you should not be spending time online. You’d post nothing but Fake News nonsense like Tina.

  1198. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    California political races are now technically non-partisan, so the votes candidates received should not be added to any political parties vote total.

  1199. chicon says:

    Wes, just messing around about the hotness…. Good at her job and nice looking – nice combo.

  1200. Phil says:

    Interesting decision by Kristi to go the governor’s route. With regard to her career I believe she is playing chess. Bucking for administrative experience to add on to eight years of legislative experience. Gives her a sound resume to launch an eventual run at the WH. She would make an excellent President some day.

  1201. jason says:

    Someone who calls himself TrumpisPeteWilson is commenting on other people’s IQ?

    LOL

  1202. jason says:

    lthough I expected Trump to fall just short in the Keystone State, here among Tarheels, I correctly saw tremendous enthusiasm for him among voters he needed to carry the state and assessed the race at a 2/3-point win for him. He won by 3″

    Yep….I was commenting here that Trump was going to decimate Hillary in my area. I said the well to do Harrisburg suburbs now showed fewer Trump signs then they had Romney signs, but in the blue collar areas and small towns, where there were few Romney signs in 2012, now had Trump signs like mushrooms sprouting everywhere, sometime you could see a dozen in a row on the same street.

    As it turned out, most of the suburbs, although not crazy for Trump, voted for him anyway, but in the blue collar areas he gained a lot of votes compared to Romney.

    So even though Hillary did come out of Philly Co. with the huge margin Obama got in 2012, this time it wasn’t enough, and Trump eked out a 0.7% win.

  1203. chicon says:

    1239 – hey, genius, half of the population has an IQ at 100 or below. Perhaps you’re among them?

  1204. Wes says:

    She probably decided to run for Governor because Thune and Rounds have the Senate seats locked down for the foreseeable future, Phil. She probably would have beaten Rounds in the 2014 primary but decided to be a team player and seek reelection instead. Now that Daugaard has to vacate the governorship, she has a clear shot to move up. As an inoffensive Midwesterner with a knack for solid campaigning and fundraising and a history of both executive and legislative experience behind her, she may well be a formidable player in the primaries in 2024 or 2028.

  1205. Wes says:

    Personally I’d like to Kristi paired with Nikki Haley on a presidential ticket in the next decade. The leftist SJWs would be ripping their hair out trying to attack an all-female national ticket featuring accomplished women no Democrat has ever been able to beat despite throwing literally everything they had at them every time.

  1206. Wes says:

    to…see… in my previous post.

  1207. chicon says:

    I don’t know too much about Noem. Do you think she would stand out if placed on a debate stage early in the primary season with 10+ other candidates?

  1208. Wes says:

    Look up her first campaign for Congress, Chicon.

    She was a decided junderdog when she approached John Thune about entering the race in September 2009. Secretary of State Chris Nelson and State Senator Blake Curd both had strong advantages over her, and she was perceived as the weakest potential candidate to challenge Herseth Sandlin.

    Kristi built up a strong grass roots organization though and made no mistakes in their debates. She also had an appealing way of talking to people and making them feel comfortable with her. She ultimately won the primary with 42% of the vote and led all polls but one till she unseated Herseth Sandlin on Election Day.

  1209. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Once again a muslim immigrant goes on an attempted killing spread in Germany; but it is not terrorism, just a man with mental problems.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4298896/Terror-attack-feared-Dusseldorf.html

    Angela Merkel is pathetic.

  1210. Wes says:

    I liked the ads featuring her kids best. They had a kind of down home appeal that apparently resonated with South Dakotans.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTReX0i7Zm8

  1211. chicon says:

    Wes – thanks for the info. I’ll keep an eye on her. The early debates in a crowded field can be a real crapshoot. Good candidates who are well funded and with loads of experience – such as your guy Jeb (you are a Bush lover, right?) – have taken big hits to their campaigns in these situations.

    Before you head to Defcon 1, I’m messing with you on the Bush thing…..

  1212. Phil says:

    Noem-Haley would be a kickass ticket.

    Unbeatable in my opinion.

    Watching Democrats in a futile effort to try to turn those two into Palin clones would be hilarious. They would look like the clowns trying but wouldn’t be able to help themselves.

    It would be a glorious campaign.

  1213. Trump says:

    Political landscape is littered with the crashed and burnt campaigns of “star” players.

    Success in one congressional or state race is no precursor to a national race.

  1214. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like there may have been an issue with the Oroville spillway prior to the lack overflowing.

    https://twitter.com/CecileJuliette

    Some reporters just don’t realize that Gov. Moonbeam is focused on saving the planet from climate change, and building the bullet train, not inspecting dams during a permanent drought.

  1215. CashCow TM says:

    DRUGE has item up about some guy with a backpack scaling white house fence.

    Was it Dave Wissing?

  1216. Tina says:

    It could be jebot 1 or 2, Mr Cash Cow.

  1217. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump has closed a lot of the gap in his negative approval rating in the Gallup poll. Is now 49% disapprove and 44% approve; a difference of 5%. Not long ago his disapproval ratings in Gallup was over 50%, and Trump’s approval rating was below 40%. Both the Gallup and Rasmussen polls are becoming less “outlier”polls.

    With Trump settling in, the Democrats need to go beyond just opposing Trump. What is the Democratic alternative? Is it far leftism like Sanders, or are they still the party of coastal elites and globalism like those who supported Clinton?

  1218. Tina says:

    Drats will double down on russia and trump, aliied with the jebots.

  1219. Walt says:

    WVU beat Kansas last night 51-50 after being behind at half time by 9.

    And WVU Rifle Team on another national championship.

    IT IS A GREAT DAY TO BE A MOUNTAINEEER,
    REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU MIGHT BE.

  1220. Cash Cow TM says:

    Facebook anti-DJT vitriol has settled down to almost nothing.

    The Day Without Women (aka Anti-DJT rally) flop musta took the steam out of most of them.

  1221. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Have always found the claim of Russian interference bizarre.

    The Russians are accused of hacking Clinton’s campaign E-mails and releasing them. Apparently the ability of Americans to compare the true information in the E-mails with the false campaign claims of Hillary biased the election. By revealing the truth; the Russians interfered with Hillary’s right to deceive the American public.

  1222. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a recent press interview with Pelosi, who thinks the E-mails should have been ignored because she claimed they came from Putin.

    No denial that they were not true, and actual documents from the Clinton campaign.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/06/pelosi-says-the-media-were-accomplices-to-russia-ensue-outrage/?utm_term=.339b895f2770

  1223. Trump says:

    The Clinton email hacks were done by the CIA, using Russian malware as signature.

  1224. Trump says:

    All fingers point to Obama.

    That is why the Dems-msm complex has gone silent.

  1225. Trump says:

    It is amazing what 1 tweet can do.

  1226. Trump says:

    This is the real reason that Jeb coc$sucker Robbie insists that Trump should forsake Twitter.

    Without Twitter, he wants Trump to be an eunuch like Jeb.

  1227. ??? says:

    ????????????????
    ???(?)???? 2017-3-12

  1228. Bitterlaw says:

    I just watched Arrival. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  1229. chicon says:

    1272 – most informative post of the day….

  1230. chicon says:

    Except for those by poster Trump, of course….

  1231. CashCow TM says:

    Just in case…

    Cow announcing there is a new thread.