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MD: Hogan Has 65% Job Approval Rating, Only 17% Disapprove

The Washington Post came out with a new poll showing Governor Larry Hogan still with a ridiculously high approval rating as a Republican in the state of Maryland over two years into his term, but claims his re-elect number is down.

MD GOVERNOR LARRY HOGAN (R) – JOB APPROVAL (WaPo)
Approve 65%
Disapprove 17%

GOVERNOR – MARYLAND (WaPo)
Larry Hogan (R-inc) 41%
Generic Democrat (D) 37%

This poll was done March 16-19 among 841 registered voters. It’s worth noting that in 2014, The Washington Post in their final poll for the 2014 Maryland gubernatorial race said Larry Hogan was going to lose by 9%. He won by 4%.

Posted by Dave at 12:51 pm
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359 Responses to “MD: Hogan Has 65% Job Approval Rating, Only 17% Disapprove”

  1. wraith says:

    foist

  2. Robbie says:

    A new thread!

    Every member of the Freedom Caucus should face a well funded challenger in the primary. They will be the ones responsible for making Nancy Pelosi Speaker again.

  3. Trump says:

    The Jeb coc-sucker thinks that Jeb is going to fund challengers.

    Brokered convention, retard monkey?

  4. Trump says:

    Wall Street Journal:

    “Proposed legislation may lead to higher costs, especially for older workers.”

    This is how you lose majorities.

    Remember “read my lips, no new taxes”.

  5. Trump says:

    Here it comes:

    “Nunes: Trump transition members were under surveillance during Obama administration”

    “…possibly including Trump himself…”

    “Nunes is going to the White House later Wednesday to brief the Trump administration on what he has learned, which he said came from “sources’.”

    Gee, what do’ya know!!! Trump right again.

  6. Trump says:

    And the FBI comic claimed yesterday that he had “no information that would support those tweets.”

  7. Trump says:

    The joker’s assertions had a shelf life of 1 day.

  8. Trump says:

    Now can somebody charge Comey with perjury?

    Clapper and Brennan and Comey. The three stooges.

  9. Tina says:

    Breaking banner on FBN is Nunes,

    “Trump incidentally surveilled”

    Uh oh….

  10. Tina says:

    My post is confirmed by brit hume tweet.

  11. Trump says:

    Also, the report is from Politico, that rabid alt-right publication run by Steve Bannon.

  12. Tina says:

    House Intel Chair: Intel community incidentally collected info about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition

    Bs, you do not kind of wiretap.

  13. Trump says:

    The Jeb coc-sucker Robbie is hardest hit.

    Another of his delusions shatter on the rocks of reality.

  14. Tina says:

    And there is no distinction between wiretap and surveillance. They are one and the same

    As usual, i reported everthing correctly.

    Obama was informed, and if he was not, it is problemstic. Congress should have also been informed

    Look for a perjury trap involving the fbi director.

  15. Trump says:

    What did Comey know, and when did he know it?

  16. EML says:

    4 people murdered in the name of the religion of peace today.

  17. Tina says:

    CNN Lies & Is Hitler? @NolteNC
    “Inadvertent” tapping of wires are still tapped wires, son.

    Wonder how Obama WH got the “wiretap” Intel, per the NYT?

    Thoughts?

    The issue is obama targeted the opposition party head during the election. This makes watergate look like a picnic.

  18. Tina says:

    Trump transition members were under surveillance during Obama administration (link: http://politi.co/2nCKwWF) politi.co/2nC

  19. wraith says:

    Robbie says:

    March 22, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    robbie

    Every member of the Freedom Caucus should face a well funded challenger in the primary. They will be the ones responsible for making Nancy Pelosi Speaker again.

    If trump accepts obamacare lite,he will be the one responsible for making Nancy Pelosi Speaker again.

  20. Trump says:

    Where is the Jeb sucker?

    Usually, he posts within minutes of anti-trump propaganda.

    The despcable liar seems to waiting for Kos update.

  21. Robbie says:

    If what Nunes claims turns out to be correct, it’s a major happening for Trump. The details will determine if it’s simply a good story for Trump or a blockbuster for Trump.

  22. Robbie says:

    Again, using John Nolte as a validator of anything is laughable.

  23. Tina says:

    Lol, jebot.

  24. Trump says:

    The fuc$tard now is hiding behind “if”

    The monkey did not show any skepticism when the narrative was against Trump.

    As-clown is mentally deranged by Jeb sucking.

  25. Tina says:

    CSPAN? @cspan
    .@devingnunes: “I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the President-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored…”

  26. Robbie says:

    Quinnipiac poll has Trump at 37%. Quinnipiac is not usually favorable to Republicans, though. Still, even if the number is too low, it demonstrates this has been an extremely tough first eight weeks for Trump. Worst of all, the wounds have been self inflicted.

  27. Tina says:

    Of course, the media runs to goober, and i am sure mcamnesty is up next.

    They want the war with russia. Really badly.

  28. Tina says:

    CNN Lies & Is Hitler Retweeted

    9m
    Ryan Thomas? @ptmk25
    @NolteNC Yesterday: There was no wiretapping

    Today: Okay, but it wasn’t incidental!

    Tomorrow:

    Yup!!!

  29. Tina says:

    Ali Rogin? @AliABCNews
    Sen. Lindsey Graham on Nunes’ claims: “Incidental collection is not equivalent to government-directed surveillance of an American citizen”

    Goober is really stupid.

  30. Tina says:

    Bloomberg? @business
    Nunes says intelligence community collected conversations involving Trump transition team

    This is not,looking good for the ibumbler.

  31. Tina says:

    Nunes says info was widely disseminated among Intel, that’s when it became “targeting Trump.”

    Yup!

  32. Tina says:

    Evan McMullin? @Evan_McMullin
    .@DevinNunes is not carrying-out the House investigation in good faith, quite the opposite actually. He made that much clear today, again.

    And the drat plant chimed in, you no the indie.

  33. Robbie says:

    This is why I used “if” in relation to Nunes’ comments. I’d like to see a more detailed explanation lest this become an oversell and under deliver moment.

    Manu Raju?
     @mkraju
    2 hours ago

    NUNES first said “yes” when I asked him if TRUMP’s communications were picked up “incidentally.” Then he walked back, saying it’s “possible”

  34. Trump says:

    Who the fu ck is Rajput, and why do you believe ilik, as-wipe?

  35. Trump says:

    You are a liar, Robbie. Always have been.

  36. Tina says:

    House Intelligence Committee Chair Says There Was Some Surveillance Of The Trump Team

    Buzzzfed

    Lol, now jebots and the kossites will say it did not happen until after the election

  37. EML says:

    London Terrorism Suspect Named As Hate Preacher Abu Izzadeen

    Press reports are circulating that the terrorist responsible for the attack on Westminster Bridge in London, has been named as Abu Izzadeen, born Trevor Brooks from Clapton in Hackney, an infamous UK-born hate-preacher amd Islamic extremist who had been convicted for raising funds for terrorism.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/london-terrorism-suspect-named-hate-preacher-abu-izzadeen

  38. Tina says:

    CNN just reported on this…….

    Their primary concern is:

    Is it even LEGAL for Chairman Nunes to make those comments, or is it a violation due to the ongoing investigation?

    A lot of stuttering occurred during that little segment!

    Jebots will soon defend cnn

  39. Tina says:

    Nunes cannot rule out that senior Obama official were involved.

    Lol,

  40. Tina says:

    AP: House intel chair briefs Trump on ‘incidental’ intelligence collection, says some seems ‘inappropriate

    Lol

  41. Tina says:

    Grabien? @GrabienMedia
    VIDEO – @DevinNunes: FBI Is Not Cooperating with Our Investigation into Trump Camp Surveillance

  42. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Breaking News does not always turn out to be the same as first reported.

  43. Tina says:

    The Associated Press? @AP
    BREAKING: Trump says he feels ‘somewhat’ vindicated by House intel chair’s statements on legal surveillance of Trump officials.

    Jebots implode.

  44. Robbie says:

    Based on what Nunes said outside the White House, it’s clear his concern deals with the unmasking of those who were incidentally surveilled.

    After his briefing with Nunes, Trump told a pool reporter, when asked if he felt vindicated, he said “somewhat”.

  45. Tina says:

    Grabien? @GrabienMedia
    VIDEO – @DevinNunes: ‘I Cannot Rule out’ Obama Being Involved in the Trump Camp Surveillance

  46. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 3:28 pm
    The Associated Press? @AP
    BREAKING: Trump says he feels ‘somewhat’ vindicated by House intel chair’s statements on legal surveillance of Trump officials.
    Jebots implode.

    – Why would I implode? Even Trump seems to view this information, right now, as less than the blockbuster. Otherwise, he would have said he felt totally vindicated. He didn’t, though.

  47. Tina says:

    Implosion

  48. Tina says:

    Nunes, was he caught up in this as a transition advisor?

  49. Tina says:

    Trey Yingst? @TreyYingst
    BREAKING: Chairman Nunes tells me that President Trump’s general use of wiretapping as surveillance was correct

    Code blue jake tapper.

  50. Tina says:

    Surveillance equals wiretapping.

  51. Trump says:

    The Jeb coc-sucker keeps spinning.

    The as-clown has his favorite narrative totally destroyed, but the lying dishonest retard will cling to his dementia.

    Sad!

  52. Cash Cow TM says:

    $110 million
    Annual tax revenue that North Dakota could make once oil starts flowing through the Dakota Access Pipeline.

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS | MARCH 3, 2017

    Governing.com

  53. Phil says:

    This London suspect, is he Amish?

  54. Tina says:

    What I’ve read bothers me and I think it should bother the president himself and his team,” Nunes tells press outside White House.

  55. Cash Cow TM says:

    Amish?

    No, he is of the ROP* whackadoodles.

    (*religion of peace)

  56. Tina says:

    Hillary obama collusion

    Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.
    5:36 PM – 31 Oct 2016

  57. Tina says:

    So, to be clear, is the Dems’ new position that surveilling political opponents during campaigns is okay as long as we call it “incidental”?

    Dan bongino

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    Very few Muslims are terrorists. All Muslim terrorists are Muslims. Both can be true.

  59. Tina says:

    Tom Watson? @tomwatson
    Wow – Nunes just said there are “multiple FISA warrants out there” involving Trump.

    True?

  60. Barrett says:

    Looking good for my Governor. At least this state is doing one thing right.

    Hogan is trying his best to Balance the budget. When O’Malley was governer, we were losing $1.7 billion a year.

    Hogan has chipped this down to $544 million, but can’t go any further because Democrats wont make concessions on entitlements.

  61. Cash Cow TM says:

    All ALLEGEDLY muzzy terrorists are ALLEGEDLY terrorists.

  62. Cash Cow TM says:

    whackadoodles

    held cod was A-OK
    wack odd a-holes
    whacks a doodle

  63. Cash Cow TM says:

    people who depend on entitlements cannot afford the concession’s (prices)

  64. Cash Cow TM says:

    DJT is the first right handed president in 24 years.

    Think about THAT!

  65. Trump says:

    So, fox will now bring back judge napolitano, right?

    And fire sheep smith’s as$, right?

    Right, Jeb sucker?

  66. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    March 22, 2017 at 5:04 pm
    So, fox will now bring back judge napolitano, right?
    And fire sheep smith’s as$, right?
    Right, Jeb sucker?

    – Loony tune Napolitano claimed British GCHQ surveilled Trump at the behest of Obama. It was a conspiracy theory pushed by noted whacko Larry Johnson. Whatever information Nunes claims to have, it is not a part of the wild allegation Napolitano made.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    2 ways to look out this:

    1. It is an outrage that Obama ordered surveillance of Trump. OR

    2. It is an outrage that Trump may have done something that warranted conducting surveillance of him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g&app=desktop

  68. Robbie says:

    If Nunes has the “goods”, he’ll have a compelling and interesting story to tell.

    If Nunes and the Trump White House cooked this drama up, Nunes will have torched his career.

  69. Robbie says:

    This is a good point. When the substance doesn’t favor you, argue the process.

    Brit Hume?
     @brithume
    2 minutes ago

    Schiff complaining about Nunes’ handling of info on Trump allies/surveillance. Doubt he dislikes the handling. He dislikes the substance.

  70. Tina says:

    The i
    Outrage is that the obumbler targeted the major,opposition candidate.

  71. Trump says:

    Typical fake lawyer bull cr-p.

    No evidence cited that Trump “may” have done something….

    Speaking out of his as- without evidence.

  72. Barrett says:

    I think there’s a difference between surveillance and wiretapping, but honestly, not much of one.

    If Trump was under surveillance, it gives full credibility to his argument. There’s no room for semantics here.

    If that AHCA passes, Gorsuch gets confirmed, and the surveillance is confirmed, then it’s very very good news for President Trump.

  73. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina obviously chose option 1.

  74. Cash Cow TM says:

    HA!

    Nobody caught the Cow fake news:

    “DJT is the first right handed president in 24 years.

    Think about THAT!”
    ________________________
    Cow was confused.

    here is the list of presidents from Reagan on and whether they were right handers of left handers
    (according to my research):

    Reagan–Left
    GHWBush-Left
    Clinton-Left
    G.W.Bush-Right
    Obama–Left
    DJT–Right

    Duck, Duck…Goose
    ________________________
    Walt is left handed.
    He blew his chances.

  75. Trump says:

    Robbie is one fu c$ed up dude.

    When trump tweeted, he started moaning and complaining two seconds later.

    Now when his demented narrative is threatened, he is hedging and praying that Nunes is lying.

    The full effects of years of getting Jeb up his as- in full display. Behold.

  76. NYCmike says:

    “When trump tweeted, he started moaning and complaining two seconds later.

    Now when his demented narrative is threatened, he is hedging and praying that Nunes is lying.”

    -Can’t argue with this. Exactly how it happened.

  77. Tina says:

    There is no differen e betwwen the 2.

    This is a huge scandal.

  78. Tina says:

    People would have been outraged if president bush did the same to the incoming obumbler regime.

  79. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2017 at 5:31 pm
    “When trump tweeted, he started moaning and complaining two seconds later.
    Now when his demented narrative is threatened, he is hedging and praying that Nunes is lying.”
    -Can’t argue with this. Exactly how it happened.

    – Trump is a clown who made an unsubstantiated claim that Obama tapped his wires. Nunes said very clearly today that did not happen. Nunes only said there may be evidence that Trump and his associates were legally surveilled, but were improperly unmasked.

    If Nunes has the goods, it’s an interesting story and one that deserves a lot of fact finding. If this is a nothing burger that was oversold, then Nunes seriously wounded his own career. Right now, it could just as easily be the latter rather than the former.

  80. Tina says:

    The jebot is spinning.

  81. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 5:38 pm
    The jebot is spinning.

    – Bless your heart. No I’m not spinning. I’m repeating exactly what Nunes said in front of the White House. Take your problems up with him.

    Personally, this looks like a nothing burger right now. It doesn’t confirm Trump’s claim Obama tapped his wires.

  82. Tina says:

    Tapped his wires.

    Lol

    You are an idiot.

  83. Tina says:

    Tragic comedy needs to be hauled in to the congress again.

  84. PresidentPaul! says:

    Gun Owners of America: Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0 Still Contains Gun Control

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/22/gun-owners-of-america-paul-ryans-obamacare-2-0-still-contains-gun-control

    GOA points out that it opposed “the original Obamacare” because it threatened Second Amendment rights and they are concerned about Ryan’s new healthcare push for the same reasons.

  85. Tina says:

    Fwiw, from my peeps, hearing that comedy may resign soon.

  86. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is now saying “gadfly” and “nothingburger” regularly.

    Interesting.

  87. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    That Nolte guy ends up being right, but you still dismiss him.

    The NY Times and WAPO are wrong on a daily basis, yet you still use them for your information.

    Interesting.

  88. NYCmike says:

    Maybe it’s a nothingburger.

  89. Bitterlaw says:

    In poster Trump’s world, if John Gotti had been elected President, the FBI would have immediately had to turn off the microphones and let him go free.

  90. Bitterlaw says:

    I give the FBI, NSA, and CIA permission to spy on me. They will lose interest in about 8 minutes.

  91. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nunes-trump-russia-investigation_us_58d2e0b5e4b02d33b748452d?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    #70
    “Man Tasked With Investigating Trump’s Ties To Russia Makes Friendly Visit To White House”

  92. Bitterlaw says:

    Actually, about 2 minutes.

  93. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 5:44 pm
    Tapped his wires.
    Lol
    You are an idiot.

    – Sorry, Tina troll I got it wrong. Trump tweeted “Obama has my wires tapped”.

    Donald J. Trump?
     @realDonaldTrump Mar 4

    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

  94. Tina says:

    Jebot is unhinged.

    We need better kos trolls here.

  95. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2017 at 5:51 pm
    Robbie,
    That Nolte guy ends up being right, but you still dismiss him.
    The NY Times and WAPO are wrong on a daily basis, yet you still use them for your information.
    Interesting.

    – You’re right. I totally dismiss hacks who have as their Twitter handle “CNN is Hitler”.

  96. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 6:06 pm
    Jebot is unhinged.
    We need better kos trolls here.

    – Funny. I was just thinking about how pathetic the Gateway Pundit troll HHR has is (that would be you).

  97. Tina says:

    I know you are upset, just take a breath.

  98. NYCmike says:

    “– You’re right. I totally dismiss hacks who have as their Twitter handle “CNN is Hitler”.”

    -Got it.

    If a person is an obnoxious jackass but correct, you would dismiss him, and choose to believe the really nice people at the NY Times and WAPO who are wrong and deny they have an agenda.

  99. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2017 at 5:52 pm
    Maybe it’s a nothingburger.

    – We’ll know in a few days. Nunes certainly raised expectations so he better have something to deliver. If he’s unable to produce much of anything, then this episode may have been nothing more than a coordinated effort by him and the White House to muddy the waters. He has certainly accomplished that goal, though, today.

  100. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is going to start mentioning Trump “shooting people on Fifth Avenue” soon, like “CG” constantly brought up.

  101. Tina says:

    Timely tweets and a confession of illegal activity by the obumbler.

    Pass the popcorn.

  102. PresidentPaul! says:

    “SCHIFF: ‘Profound Doubt’…. Nunes Must Decide Whether He Is Leader Of An ‘Independent Investigation’ Or A ‘Surrogate For The White House’…”

  103. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2017 at 6:14 pm
    “– You’re right. I totally dismiss hacks who have as their Twitter handle “CNN is Hitler”.”
    -Got it.
    If a person is an obnoxious jackass but correct, you would dismiss him, and choose to believe the really nice people at the NY Times and WAPO who are wrong and deny they have an agenda.

    – I do not think John Nolte, whether he lucks into the right position or not, is worthy of my time just as you don’t think the NYT or WaPo are worthy of your time.

  104. Tina says:

    Comedy looked awful in the presentation. Inwonder what, if anything, congress does about his testimony?

  105. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2017 at 6:16 pm
    Robbie is going to start mentioning Trump “shooting people on Fifth Avenue” soon, like “CG” constantly brought up.

    – Why?

  106. Bitterlaw says:

    I have to agree that “CNN is Hitler” does diminish a source’s credibility but under the blind squirrel theory, the source could be correct.

  107. Tina says:

    Faux News needs to fire shep Smith. He said there were ties and collusion.

    Bring back Napolitano since he is right.

  108. Trump says:

    You are a nobody turd, Bitterlaw. Nobody is interested in your insignificant life.

    There are laws in this country which you seem to be unfamiliar with.

    Start with taxes and penalty, moron,

  109. Tina says:

    Mika scarfarce is unhinged. I love it.

  110. Trump says:

    Just because you give CIA and NSA permission to spy on you doesn’t mean anything except that you have no respect for laws and people’s rights.

  111. PresidentPaul! says:

    Sadiq Khan, the London mayor, says terror attacks ‘part and parcel’ of living in a major city

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

  112. NYCmike says:

    “just as you don’t think the NYT or WaPo are worthy of your time.”

    -I NEVER said that, Robbie.

    I do wait a couple of days to judge the veracity of what they print, since so much of it lately seems a bit “out-sourced”.

  113. Robbie says:

    The Gorsuch hearings have ended and Thom Tillis seems to agree with my view that the Democrats are setting the stage for a filibuster. Whether it can succeed is another question, but I suspect Schumer feels there is little to lose in failing to invoke cloture on the first attempt.

    My guess is Schumer allows 7 Democrats to vote for cloture on the first try, but not 60. Then he’ll see whether Republicans have the fortitude to use the nuclear option. If Republicans do have the votes, he’ll end the filibuster. If Republicans don’t have the votes for the nuclear option, it will continue.

    In Schumer’s mind, it’s either lose now or lose when Kennedy retires. There’s probably no downside in trying a filibuster now, espeicially with Trump embroiled with stories about Russia, wiretap claim, and the possibility Trump lose the healthcare vote.

  114. Robbie says:

    If Republicans fall for any these “deals’ being offered by Democrats to confirm Gorsuch, they’re nuts and deserve to lose their next elections.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/gorsuch-democrats-supreme-court-236384

  115. Phil says:

    If Republicans don’t have the fortitude to nuke the filibuster with a quality nominee like this one and allow the nomination to die, I and every Republicans like me are finished with the GOP. Done and done……..and if they have lost Republicans like me the GOP is finished. They should be smart enough to know that.

    They had better be. The base won’t put up with it. Not for a minute.

  116. PresidentPaul! says:

    Why did Comey give loretta lynch a recommendation on whether Hillary should be prosecuted when he is an investigator and not a prosecutor? And why did he let Clinton off the hook when there was a mountain of evidence?

    Why was the wiretapping the opposition party?

    FBI seems to have become a circus.

  117. Bitterlaw says:

    You are a nobody turd, Bitterlaw. Nobody is interested in your insignificant life.

    You respond to all of my posts. Why do that for somebody so insignificant.

    By the way, your google law degree is worthless.

  118. Phil says:

    Robbie, you know as well as I that McCain, Flake, Collins, and maybe Graham are the Democrats targeted on the GOP side to cave in their ridiculous “deals”.

    McCain especially. He’s always been and remains today the Democrat’s #1 useful idiot.

    Agree with you that any deal would be moronic, but I just listed four morons for you.

  119. Bitterlaw says:

    You are a nobody turd, Bitterlaw.

    This is probably not worth any points but I will leave it to Jason to decide.

  120. jason says:

    Nobody turd?

    Yeah, too weak for points.

  121. Robbie says:

    Interesting how the continues to happen. Nunes steps out and offers information that might be helpful to Trump. Then just 4 hours later, CNN has a story that the FBI may have information members of Trump’s campaign colluded with the Russians.

    I doubt anyone will ever be able to prove collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia, but there is definitely collusion taking place between elements of the government that don’t like Trump and the press.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/gorsuch-democrats-supreme-court-236384

  122. Cash Cow TM says:

    nothingburger (“you want fries with that?”)

    burger in thong
    thin bugger Ron

  123. Bitterlaw says:

    If he had said, “You are a nobody. turd.” I would have asked for points. Commas matter, Trump.

  124. Robbie says:

    Phil

    I think Murkowski, Collins, and McCain are the ones most likely to stab the party in the back on SCOTUS.

    Flake has a primary to deal with in 2018 so he won’t want to agitate the base by messing with SCOTUS deals.

  125. Cash Cow TM says:

    FBI

    fib

    ironic…just saying…

  126. jason says:

    Nunes will have torched his career.”

    But if he is right, Wobbie will still be around to hang his hat at the next anti-Trump story.

  127. PresidentPaul! says:

    If McCain caused a pick to be filibustered prior to the 2018 midterms, it would probably be a good campaign issue btw for the republicans running.

  128. PresidentPaul! says:

    Gun Owners of America going all out to stop the Obamacare care bill tomorrow.

    GOA? @GunOwners 7h7 hours ago
    More
    A House vote on ObamaCare 2.0 could come as soon as tomorrow (Thursday). #2A #GunOwners

    https://twitter.com/GunOwners?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

  129. Phil says:

    Murkowski. Yes. She has done it before….plus she just won reelection. Your take on Flake makes sense. I might add that Graham likes Gorsuch…a lot. You are probably right about those being the three.

  130. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 22, 2017 at 8:52 pm
    Nunes will have torched his career.”

    But if he is right, Wobbie will still be around to hang his hat at the next anti-Trump story.

    – Maybe if Trump stops tripping over his own two feet and stops with the self inflicted wounds, we won’t have to worry about whether Nunes or anyone else torched their careers to help Trump.

  131. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 22, 2017 at 9:03 pm
    Murkowski. Yes. She has done it before….plus she just won reelection. Your take on Flake makes sense. I might add that Graham likes Gorsuch…a lot. You are probably right about those being the three.

    – Tactically speaking, Republicans can lose two Senators. Pence can break a 50-50 tie. My guess is Schumer is going to force a filibuster betting that Republicans won’t stick together.

  132. NYCmike says:

    “My guess is Schumer is going to force a filibuster betting that Republicans won’t stick together.”

    -If Schumer does that, McConnell should have a list of people for every open federal judicial seat and cabinet/sub-cabinet post, and each name should be read off with a voice vote confirming them, and be done with it.

  133. NYCmike says:

    Or, sit down and order a nothingburger.

  134. PresidentPaul! says:

    I thought the dems were trying to make a deal to preserve the filibuster for the next pick in exchange for Gorsuch easy confirmation.

    Namely three senators such as Murkowski, Collins, and McCain would have to verbally agree to preserve the filibuster in the next fight no matter what?

  135. wraith says:

    ” My guess is Schumer is going to force a filibuster betting that Republicans won’t stick together.”

    Stcking together won’t matter, as they need 60 votes anyway to break a filibuster.

    Trump may need to make a recess appointment.

  136. Phil says:

    Schumer playing chicken on the filibuster is right in keeping with classic Democratic tactics. Never back down, play to win, and let Republicans surrender in the end. In his case Schumer is bringing a knife to a gun fight with the expectation that the Republican senate will hand over their gun.

  137. Phil says:

    Recess appointments are only temporary, right? Would be a huge win for Schumer.

  138. Trump says:

    If GOP can’t seat Gorsuch, trump will turn around and nominate Garland.

    How would you like that?

  139. Bitterlaw says:

    Since Murk and McCain keep getting re-elected, they are clearly doing the job that their constituents want. Why do they owe more to those of us who live outside their states than they do to the people in their states?

  140. Trump says:

    trump has done his job nominating a a+ justice.

    If McConnell can’t seat him, GOP should just quit and go home.

    Not rocket science.

  141. Phil says:

    Democrats are committed to a cause and an agenda. They march 100% in lock step for the cause. Unfortunately, McCain has a cause as well – to be loved by the MSM.

    F McCain.

  142. Trump says:

    Trump doesn’t really care if the sc is conservative or liberal, except that he promised to nominate conservatives.

    If the GOP controlled senate can’t handle that, trumps Ned nominee will be a flaming liberal.

  143. Tina says:

    Cnn lays an egg. Ni bombshell.

    They look,like the enots, idiots.

  144. Trump says:

    The GOPs ” we can’t get anything done” attitude is what got Trump the nomination.

  145. Tina says:

    Richard Grenell? @RichardGrenell
    CNN’s breaking news is from an anonymous official and their lede has “indicates” “suspected” and “possibly” all in the first sentence.

    Fake news. Lol.

  146. Phil says:

    If they don’t seat Gorsuch I’m for sure going home. Not interested in wasting my time supporting a side that unilaterally surrenders. I have better things to do than waste time and money on a party that throws in the towel when they have the upper hand. That is just plain ridiculous.

    They can send their fund raising letters to someone else to play the gullible sucker.

  147. Tina says:

    I aman independent or decline tomstate be ause of the republican party stupidity. Always killing themselves, but leave it to the Maine chicklet, mcamnesty, fraud flake, and goiber to do us in.

  148. Tina says:

    I am sitting out the 2018 race involving flake. If he gets orimaried, he deserves it. Nothing to those 2 az democrats.

  149. Tina says:

    uh oh, fisa order. Comedy is in trouble.

    Trump did promise stuff coming out in the next 2 weeks.

    This is worse than wayergate.

  150. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cash Cow Fake News

    It takes 5, 000 gallons of water to grow
    a single almond.

  151. Bitterlaw says:

    It would be a devastating loss to the California GOP to lose the support of somebody who refuses to be registered as a Republican.

  152. Tina says:

    If nunes is correct and there was a fisa order resukting i the surveillance, pass the popcorn.

  153. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cash Cow Fake News

    BREAKING

    Comey to announce that he is resigning
    and is also a transexual muzzy radical.

  154. Robbie says:

    wraith says:
    March 22, 2017 at 9:16 pm
    ” My guess is Schumer is going to force a filibuster betting that Republicans won’t stick together.”

    Stcking together won’t matter, as they need 60 votes anyway to break a filibuster.

    Trump may need to make a recess appointment.

    – What good would that do? He’ll still need to be confirmed later. Do you think Democrats will suddenly be ok with him if he’s recess appointed? No, of course not.

  155. Robbie says:

    Tina lives an in alternate universe. Nunes’ gambit may have muddied the waters temporarily, but that’s about it. It’s already been over taken by CNN’s story. And even though CNN’s story is couched with qualifiers, it will still dominate tomorrow because the press smells blood in the water. Trump’s tweets on the morning of March 4 may come to define his entire presidency.

  156. Phil says:

    CNN? Really, Robbie?

    For God’s sake, man. Just stop it.

  157. jason says:

    I see Wobbie has already swallowed the CNN story hook line and sinker.

  158. Trump says:

    Haven’t had enough lying for today, Jeb coc-sucker?

    Any self-respecting person would have stopped sucking Jeb’s knob by now, but not this retarded monkey.

  159. jason says:

    Heh…. from Instapundit:

    “So, this is getting even more interesting now. It appears now that a number of Trump insiders were intercepted, and no, I’m not buying the argument that Trump saying ‘wiretapped’ was wrong, especially since that’s exactly what was reported. And it appears now that people trying to maintain that Trump was ‘lying’ about being wiretapped are being driven to the interesting defense that it was a lie because the U.S. wasn’t actually wiretapping Trump people when the U.S. was wiretapping Trump people. Which is, at least, good for a laugh.”

  160. jason says:

    Wobbie is like addicted to fake news on the MSM, it’s hilarious.

  161. Robbie says:

    Phil

    You did read my comment, correct? If so, you noticed I said “even though CNN’s story is couched with qualifiers”. I didn’t say I believed it.

    I have repeatedly said I don’t think there’s anything to the stories of collusion, but I don’t set the media agenda. And tomorrow, the press out to get Trump will talk about the CNN story from dawn until dusk.

  162. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 22, 2017 at 10:35 pm
    Wobbie is like addicted to fake news on the MSM, it’s hilarious.

    – Nope. I am very dubious of the story and that’s why I noted it was couched with qualifiers.

    That said, it will still be the focus of news coverage tomorrow because 90% of the press is out to get Trump and will use whatever they can.

  163. Trump says:

    The fuc$tard Robbie thinks everyone is as stupid as him.

    Man, what a display of wasted humanity effected by sucking Jeb for years.

  164. jason says:

    How about the Manafort story?

    Evidently Manafort was a consultant for Russian entities in 2007 and 2008.

    In 2017 he was briefly campaign manager for Trump charged with delegate hunting.

    Somehow this means Trump was colluding with the Russians.

  165. Trump says:

    Everyone links to fake news that he doesn’t believe.

    Don’t you?

    This is what Robbie the Jeb coc-sucker thinks of you.

  166. Robbie says:

    Trump fired Manafort, right? Seems like a pretty good argument for Trump to make.

    And even if Trump did work for some Russian, that’s not against the law and he apparently hadn’t done so since 2009.

  167. jason says:

    That said, it will still be the focus of news coverage tomorrow because 90% of the press is out to get Trump and will use whatever they can.”

    Right, and the reason they have influence is because useful idiots like you are attracted to them like flies to horsesh-t.

  168. Trump says:

    A prime display of what Jeb can do. Look at Robbie.

  169. Robbie says:

    169

    I meant even if Manafort worked for Russia.

  170. jason says:

    And even if Trump did work for some Russian,”

    Trump is a billionaire, he didn’t work for any Russians.

  171. jason says:

    Wobbie is already confused on which MSM BS he should pander to next.

  172. Trump says:

    Can someone sue Jeb for Robbie’s condition?

    Child abuse?

  173. Tina says:

    Cnns story is fake. Junk, crap.

    Jebot try to follow.

    You are mad.

  174. Tina says:

    Manafort did not work for the russian gubmemt.

  175. Trump says:

    If msm had influence, Hillary would be president.

  176. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 22, 2017 at 10:40 pm
    That said, it will still be the focus of news coverage tomorrow because 90% of the press is out to get Trump and will use whatever they can.”

    Right, and the reason they have influence is because useful idiots like you are attracted to them like flies to horsesh-t.

    – I have repeatedly said I don’t believe the story, but somehow it’s my fault for acknowledging the story will dominate the news.

    Is it my fault Trump complained about inaugural crowd size, claimed 3-5 million illegals voted, or tweeted about wire tapping?

  177. Tina says:

    Manafort worked for a russian rich due over 12 years ago.

    See the jebot knows nothung.

  178. Trump says:

    And all of them are true, as-wipe.

  179. Tina says:

    Notice, distract and throw io other issues,

  180. Phil says:

    90 percent of the press is out to get Trump.

    Well, something I can agree with Robbie on….except 90% is too low.

  181. Trump says:

    The retrd’s narrative has deflated, now he is just flailing.

  182. Tina says:

    It is evident that obama and hillary colluded. She cited trump and russian servers in an oct tweet

  183. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    March 22, 2017 at 10:42 pm
    If msm had influence, Hillary would be president.

    – Trump’s approval rating is below 43% in the RCP average. he’s not helping himself, but the press is doing a lot to drive that number down.

  184. Tina says:

    That is why he tweets. He breaks the media which is inaccurate.

  185. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 10:44 pm
    Notice, distract and throw io other issues,

    – Yep, that’s just what Nunes did.

  186. Trump says:

    Hey fuc$tard, hey do you keep citing fake poll, moron.

    Did you miss the election or what ?

    God, this retard is the stupidest retard on the Internet.

  187. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 10:46 pm
    That is why he tweets. He breaks the media which is inaccurate.

    – Except, the tweets about Obama wire tapping him were false. Even your new love Nunes said so today in front of the White House.

  188. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Bor says that the obumbker surveiled trump,and rep king agrees.

    Pass the popcorn. There is more news coming in the next fee days.

  189. Trump says:

    Robbie would need to gain 100 points to reach retard level.

  190. Tina says:

    Nope, obumbler surveiled him and nunes confirmed it.

    End of story, your ibumbler got caught in the till.

  191. Trump says:

    Define “wiretap” , as-wipe. Bet you don’t know surveillance from your as-hole.

  192. Tina says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2017 at 10:44 pm
    Notice, distract and throw io other issues,

    – Yep, that’s just what Nunes did.

    Your full of it, you know it, amd are mad, bro.

  193. Tina says:

    Wiretapping includes electronic surveillance. You and comedy can tey to split hairs, but you sound like a fool.

  194. Trump says:

    The only mistake Obama made was not considering that trump might win.

    Now the only question will be, who wants to go to jail for Obama?

  195. Tina says:

    You were advocating colllusion and got burned.

    You maintained no wiretappimg. I told you to be careful because he put those words in quotes. Tou got burned again.

    He is vindicated

  196. Trump says:

    Will it be clapper, Brennan, lynch or Comey?

  197. Tina says:

    You do realize that nunes has the fisa warrants. There is no,question that he was tapped.

  198. Robbie says:

    Tina Troll

    Nunes said today in front of the White House there was no evidence at all Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump or Trump Tower as Donald Trump suggested in his tweet.

    Donald J. Trump?Verified
    @realDonaldTrump
    Mar 4

    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

  199. Tina says:

    Freedom Watch notifies congress of a “Deep State” intelligence community whistle blower, Dennis Montgomery, with hundreds of millions of documents showing CIA and FBI and Intelligence Committees where spying on, and conducting surveillance on, American citizens for political purposes.

    Uh oh!

  200. Trump says:

    You are the most stupid fu$king liar, Robbie.

    Get some compensation from Jeb for the coc-sucking.

  201. Tina says:

    If there is fisa, then comedy needs to be fired asap. Comedy said no fisa, nunes says otherwise.

    Friday is huge.

  202. Tina says:

    I comtinue ti hear from for wr associates that comedy will be gone shortly., i have been out of that line of work for years, so I do not know the validity.

  203. Trump says:

    You can claim child abuse and neglect, retard.

  204. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Is there even a 1% chance that it might be a bad thing that Trump was uber surveillance? It’s not usually a sign of honor. I will wait to see what turns up before I see this as vindication of Trump. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn’t.

  205. Trump says:

    Notice that the fuc$tard Robbie has not yet defined what wiretapping is.

    Just like everything else,Mathis moron never knows what he is talking about.

    All he knows is fake news and fake polls. If he is not getting paid by Soros, he is stupid to muss put.

  206. Tina says:

    The surveillance was illegal bitterlaw. So, your questiin is not valid. Try to follow esquire..

  207. Trump says:

    miss out.

  208. Tina says:

    Observing or listening to persons, places, or activities—usually in a secretive or unobtrusive manner—with the aid of electronic devices such as cameras, microphones, tape recorders, or wire taps. The objective of electronic surveillance when used in law enforc

    Do the never trumoers, drat trolls, and jebots really want to argue the distinction?

  209. Tina says:

    Those claiming a distinction between surveillance and wire tapping are idiots.

  210. Trump says:

    The fake lawyer wants the Obama acolytes and media to have enough time to make up reasons to wiretap trump. Post-facto. Not that they have fgiven any probable cause yet, but give them enough time and resources so that they can make something up.

  211. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    We are ALL under surveillance!

  212. Trump says:

    I wanted the Jeb coc-sucker to answer, as he doesn’t even know what surveillance is.

    Cnn didn’t tell the poor moron, so it is understandable.

  213. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is a CNN-butt-boy.

  214. NYCmike says:

    T Rump

  215. Trump says:

    From Jeb-butt-boy to cnn-butt-boy.

    The poor mutt thinks that’s progress.

  216. Tina says:

    Night gang.

  217. wraith says:

    Trump may need to make a recess appointment.

    – What good would that do? He’ll still need to be confirmed later. Do you think Democrats will suddenly be ok with him if he’s recess appointed? No, of course not.
    robbie

    It would give him two years on the court, 1n 2018 the GOP may get 8 or 10 new senators, enough to break any filbuster.

  218. Phil says:

    ….or you could nuke the filibuster if Schumer wants to go all the way and get a lifetime appointment. How is that for a plan?

  219. wraith says:

    ….”or you could nuke the filibuster if Schumer wants to go all the way and get a lifetime appointment. How is that for a plan?”

    A good plan that would be thwarted by the rino turncoats.

  220. Bitterlaw says:

    Actually, Tina, you can conduct surveillance for a valid, legal purpose that runs afoul of a technical requirement and thereby becomes an unlawful search. Try to keep up.

  221. Bitterlaw says:

    I am fine with ending the filibuster since I never liked it. However, when the Dems eventually regain the chamber at some point since politics is cyclical, I don’t want to hear any bitching from our side when the Dems nuke it, too.

  222. Bitterlaw says:

    My identity is the worst kept secret for long-term posters. Trump can easily do a search for Pennsylvania attorneys. He will find my name, firm affiliation, and ID number.

  223. Tina says:

    Yes, bl, but there is no proof of that. The surveillance was and is illegal.

  224. Bitterlaw says:

    Prediction – There will be hundreds of angry posts today that are based purely on speculation rather than evidence by people who have strong opinions but who have no idea what is actually happening at the FBI.

  225. Wes says:

    Schumer may force Republicans to nuke the filibuster over Gorsuch. Personally I think Democrats set a bad precedent in 2004 and 2005 with their endless filibustering of Bush’s judicial nominees because Bill Frist had no choice but to make preparations to impose the so-called nuclear option before the infamous Gang of 14 cynically intervened.

    Then of course Harry Reid actually did impose it.

    Now Democrats look ready to declare war over Trump’s nominees, thus forcing McConnell to do the same as Reid.

    Personally although I think the Senate should overall have the filibuster, I oppose it for judges because the Constitution explicitly says the Senate is to “accept or reject” the President’s nominees. That’s not possible if the Senate doesn’t even vote on the nomination.

  226. Wes says:

    Oh, by the way, leftists in ’05 were comparing the contemplated nuclear option on the judicial filibuster to Roosevelt’| court-packing scheme (which it in no way resembled). I didn’t hear anything about that when Harry Reid nuked it eight years later.

  227. Tina says:

    Has Mika Joe Scarfarce gone postal yet?

    I am glad I no longer have cable.

  228. Tina says:

    I am done funtilmthis evening. Looking forward to reading jebots fake news and other kos talking points later.

  229. EML says:

    Selena Zito wrote an article 6 months ago or so explaining that Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally while people in the bubble, people who oppose Trump vehemently take him literally but not seriously.

    We are seeing this dynamic still play out, even in this thread. Trump supporter Tina takes him seriously but not literally. Bubble-living Trump-hater Wobbly takes him literally but not seriously. He is altogether consumed with whether or not Obama himself specifically ordered a wire tap on Trump specifically. This is not the point.

    According to Nunes yesterday, the Obama administration was monitoring so many individuals on the Trump team that they were effectively monitoring Trump, even if they didn’t wire tap him directly. So in this sense, taking Trump seriously but not literally, he was 100% right.

    Do you really think that an administration that weaponized the IRS to use against political opponents wouldn’t put surveillance on their presidential opponent? Trump and his team were being watched. Who authorized it at what level is the only question. Either way, this development is not good for our democracy.

  230. Bitterlaw says:

    There is a third option. I don’t take Trump literally or seriously. I am only relieved that Hillary Clinton is not President. Trump was a necessary evil to achieve that goal.

  231. Trump says:

    Eml,

    How can you monitor without wiretapping?

    And what is wiretapping in your mind? Can you wiretap a cellphone?

  232. Trump says:

    The fake lawyer thinks anyone gives a hoot about his stance.

    It is just self-deceit to think that his virtue-signaling is anything more than withdrawal from debate. He keeps bleating that he is ok with NSA/CIA monitoring his phone and bank accounts. That is the extent of his perspective. No opinion on what the laws are, how they are applied.

  233. EML says:

    Eml,

    How can you monitor without wiretapping?

    And what is wiretapping in your mind? Can you wiretap a cellphone?
    ==================================
    I think this is a dumb conversation to have and distracts from the real story.

  234. Trump says:

    That is the narrative that the Dems are pushing now.

    Trump said wiretap. There was no wire. Trump lied.

  235. Trump says:

    What is the real story?

  236. messy says:

    238. Trump is a liar and a theif.

  237. Trump says:

    Messy is a coward and a traitor

  238. Trump says:

    And a pedophile

  239. Bitterlaw says:

    70099

  240. NYCmike says:

    “238. Trump is a liar and a theif.”

    -Ok, a liar.

    But a thief?

    What did he steal, other than Hillary’s birthright?

  241. NYCmike says:

    “70099”

    -90210

  242. Trump says:

    The thing that bothers the assortment of trump haters is that, unlike other republicans, he does not curl up and whimper when attacked.

  243. Trump says:

    Other republicans only find courage when they are trashing their own voters.

  244. Wes says:

    He stole JEB!’s birthright too, Mike–and his manhood.

  245. RC says:

    Hogan’s sensible decision to back the fracking ban will bolster his reelection bid.

  246. Robbie says:

    Bob Casey announced he will vote NO on Gorsuch. This suggest two points to me. First, the idea the “red state” Democrats will feel the need to vote for Gorsuch for fear of 2018 seems wrong. Second, the Democrats are laying the groundwork for a filibuster and it could well be getting moderate Democrat buy-in.

  247. wraith says:

    Sentors have the right to “advise and consent” (or reject) a presidential appointment. A filibuster denies that constitutional right to senators wanting to make such advice and consent.

    Senate rules should not be allowed to infringe on those rights. IMHO

  248. Col. Klink says:

    HOGAN!

  249. Robbie says:

    Today, we’ll find out if the Freedom Caucus is interested in implementing conservative legislation or simply interested in flapping their gums to impress the radio hosts and conservative interests groups. The Freedom Caucus has a history of pushing for as many conservative changes as they can get and then still vote NO because the bill isn’t 100% perfect. Just look at Ted Yoho and Thom Massie. Have those two nuts ever voted YES on anything?

    Right now, the Freedom Caucus is pushing for changes that may or may not meet the requirements for reconciliation in the Senate. They may well win those concession from Trump and Ryan, but it may still sink the bill because moderates won’t be able to accept them.

    If the Freedom caucus scuttles the bill (very possible), they will have accomplished two very unique things. First, they will have made it clear they prefer Obamacare over something far more conservative. Second, they will have dealt a potentially mortal blow to Trump’s presidency just two months into his term. Trump is already immersed in an endless stream of Russia stories and a defeat on healthcare will only further the view he’s out of his element.

    But at least the Freedom Caucus will have made Heritage Action happy.

  250. jason says:

    This suggest two points to me. First, the idea the “red state” Democrats”

    Zzzzzzzz….

    The fact PA went narrowly for Trump by 45k votes out of 6 million cast does not make it a “red” state.

    In Presidential elections PA is as best purple, and until Trump won was considered to be blue.

  251. Phil says:

    CNN breathlessly wall to wall on the “FBI investigation of “Trump collusion with the Russians”. Breathlessly reporting this Nonstop. They are all in of course. Full court press even for them. The fact that they are smearing the POTUS with nothing but a bunch of leaked non proof from Democratic operatives is over the top even for them. They have a guy on there now referring to the “seriousness” of this….and of course they have a clip from their go to Republican MCCain saying ‘he believes there is more to come”.

  252. Robbie says:

    Jason

    I got that wrong. I should have written “Trump state” Democrats. Obviously, PA is not a red state.

  253. jason says:

    Stop coddling the deadenders with meetings and “negotiations” that are not going anywhere, because the deadenders want all or nothing.

    Bring it to a vote. Let the deadenders explain that they prefer Obamacare to this “bad” bill.

    Let them vote with the Democrats, who are united in protecting Obamacare.

    Of course, the Dems will hail it as a big victory for Obamacare, and they won’t give any credit to the deadenders.

    We will have to do that ourselves.

  254. jason says:

    256. Ok

  255. wraith says:

    “Today, we’ll find out if the Freedom Caucus is interested in implementing conservative legislation” robbie

    There is nothing conservative about obamacare 2.
    If trump accepts this warmed over BS , he will be the one to blame, not the freedom caucas.

  256. jason says:

    I am ready to credit the deadenders with finally, irrevocably, definitively making Obamacare the law of the land.

    I like to give credit where credit is due.

  257. jason says:

    I will start with giving credit to wraith, who obviously is ok with Obamacare.

  258. wraith says:

    Obamacare is dying on the vine. Let it die.

  259. jason says:

    f trump accepts this warmed over BS , he will be the one to blame, not the freedom caucas.”

    So let’s see, the deadenders implement Obamacare forever, but Trump is to blame?

    Okayyyy…..

  260. Trump says:

    The only thing Bob caseys stance says is , he is afraid of a primary challenge from the moon bats.

    No dem is going to vote for Gorsuch, except possibly from a state like wv which has little to no left wing libtard’s like Robbie.

  261. Robbie says:

    There is nothing conservative about Ryan’s bill? It eliminates the taxes of Obamacare. I thought tax elimination was conservative? Learn something new everyday at HHR.

    The Freedom caucus are political suicide bombers.

  262. wraith says:

    I will start with giving credit to wraith, who obviously is ok with Obamacare.

    As you are obviously OK with the gold plated dog turd of obamacare 2.

  263. jason says:

    Obamacare is dying on the vine. Let it die.”

    Would never happen.

    All that would do is make the government pour more and more money into it.

    Entitlements don’t die on the vine anymore than social security or medicare would die on the vine if insolvent.

  264. Phil says:

    Oh yeah, the expert on intelligence that CNN just spent interviewing about the “seriousness of the FBI investigation into the Trump campaign “collusion” is a contributor to Vanity Fair. Great.

    Of course, the entire story is designed to delegitimize the Trump election. They are working point.

    Democrats, their poodles in the MSM, and the Never Trumpers in the Republican Party working hand in hand to bring down Trump or, failing that, to draw enough blood to weaken any chance Trump has to govern effectively. They are well on the way to getting to that point.

    BTW, maybe our resident Poster, Trump can explain why in the world Trump chose to keep Comey on as FBI director.

  265. Trump says:

    Wraith,

    Senate has the right to make its own rules.

    There is nothing in the constitution that says that the senators have to vote to provide “advice and consent”. The senate can adopt a rule that says that confirmation is provided by 1 senator voting yes, and the rule will be constitutionally valid.

  266. wraith says:

    There is nothing conservative about Ryan’s bill?

    I agree, because it sets up a whole new level of entitlements and subsdies.

  267. jason says:

    As you are obviously OK with the gold plated dog turd of obamacare 2.”

    It’s not ideal but its better than Obamacare.

    It keeps Trump’s campaign promise to repeal it and gives him political capital to move on to other important things like the economy.

    If he loses this, all it will do is give the Dems more power to keep thwarting his agenda.

    It’s not rocket science.

  268. Wes says:

    I remember how the Deadenders used to claim Republicans such as Mike Castle and Scott Brown actually supported Obamacare despite multiple votes and statements against it.

    Now the Deadenders are doing everything in their power to ensure Republicans can’t repeal and replace Obamacare.

    Damn hypocrites.

  269. Phil says:

    Deadenders do what deadenders do, Wes. They will never change.

  270. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason

    I got that wrong. I should have written “Trump state” Democrats. Obviously, PA is not a red state.

    256. Ok

    Seriously? Is this how A-holes fight now? You need to remember who you are, Jason. You’re an A-hole! Act like one.

  271. jason says:

    Trump so far has been invincible, whether some of us like or not. That is part of his appeal and what gives him political capital.

    Losing on something as big as Obamacare will let more blood out in the water and make him vulnerable to even more defeats.

    If the Trump supporter here don’t see that they are blind.

  272. wraith says:

    “There is nothing in the constitution that says that the senators have to vote to provide “advice and consent”.

    Wrong.

    “With the advice and consent of the senate”

    Senate is plural, not just one senator. The senate rules cannot supercede the constitutional right to that A&C.

  273. Bitterlaw says:

    Bob Casey will not face a primary challenge in 2018. He is a leftist. He gives the leftists the votes they want.

  274. jason says:

    Hey Bitter GFY.

    If Wobbie mans up to a mistake I give him a pass.

    Sue me.

    Of course, if he would admit that everything he says or writes can be traced back to Jeb Bush I would give him a bigger pass.

  275. Trump says:

    Moron Phil,

    Possibly because FBI director is appointed for a single 10-year term, which is not coincident with the presidential term.

    Read up the rules of appointment of officials, idiot,

  276. Trump says:

    Senate makes its own rules for conduct.

    Man, basic civics.

  277. jason says:

    A wraith/soccer moron argument?

    One wants to protect Obamacare because he doesn’t like the replacement, the other wants to destroy the Republican party…

    Pass the popcorn.

  278. Wes says:

    PA did vote for Trump over Hillary, though narrowly, last year. Trumpkins are nothing if not rabid supporters of the President. There is a chance Casey has given Republicans an issue to exploit against him so long as Trump is not unpopular in 2018.

  279. Robbie says:

    The Democrats just announced they will filibuster Gorsuch. Whether or not that means they will just force a cloture vote as a procedural hurdle or whether they intend to prohibit Gorsuch is not known.

    Now, we’ll see if Murkowski, Collins, and the other Republicans will stick together.

  280. Bitterlaw says:

    Hey Bitter GFY.

    Better.

  281. EML says:

    Jaime Herrera Beutler is a no on AHCA. Not a deadender. Not Freedom Caucus.

  282. Trump says:

    There are a few senate rules defined in the constitution.

    2/3 majority for removal of president, for approval of treaties, etc.

    Beyond the enumerated requirements, everything else is up to the senate to decide.

  283. jason says:

    Possibly because FBI director is appointed for a single 10-year term, which is not coincident with the presidential term.”

    That is correct, but nothing kept Trump from replacing him.

    Considering that Comey until the election was viewed as “pro-Trump” it probably would not have been that controversial.

    Trump decided to keep him. If Comey does embark on a witch hunt it might have been a mistake.

  284. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    March 23, 2017 at 10:56 am
    Jaime Herrera Beutler is a no on AHCA. Not a deadender. Not Freedom Caucus.

    – This is what’s so laughable. The Freedom Caucus is going to push this bill as far right as possible and force moderates to be against it. Then in the end, the Freedom Caucus will still vote against it.

  285. jason says:

    Not a deadender. Not Freedom Caucus.”

    No need to make that distinction.

  286. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – At this point, without an actual opponent being named, I think that Casey will be re-elected. If Jul runs against him, Casey will be re-elected in an historic landslide.

  287. Wes says:

    The Senate makes its own rules, but those rules can’t supersede the Constitution. For example, the Senate can’t make a rule granting itself the exclusive right to select the President.

    The Constitution specifically says the Senate has power to advise and consent on the President’s judicial nominees. The Senate can not advise and consent if it does not in fact advise and consent by refusing to do so via procedural moves.

  288. jason says:

    I can’t see any R in PA that could beat Casey.

    Unfortunately, he has an undeserved reputation as a moderate, I have had this argument with people who I otherwise think are sensible people, and they believe this crap.

  289. Wes says:

    I’d like to see BArletta challenge Casey, Bitter. Barletta strikes me as the kind of Republican most likely to be able to undercut Casey’s base of support.

  290. jason says:

    If Bitter runs against Casey, he will lose in a historic landslide, but I will still vote for him.

  291. Wes says:

    People in Indiana were saying the same thing about Birch Evans Bayh III Last year, JAson. It didn’t matter once Todd Young pointed out Bayh’s deficiencies as a potential officeholder and made a strong case for himself.

  292. Trump says:

    Casey in pa is not concerned with a republican challenger.

    He wants to be in good books with the liberal donor base, and not attract a challenge from a sanders/warren clone from his left.

  293. jason says:

    I know Barletta. I don’t think he can beat Casey.

    And he has joined the deadenders on protecting Obamacare.

  294. Phil says:

    The FBI director can absolutely be replaced by the President term or no term. President Clinton removed Republican William Sessions during the beginning of his first term in 1993.

    Maybe if you concentrated less on the name calling and getting your facts straight…..

    You are so thin skinned about anything resembling criticism of Trump I’m beginning to think you really are Donald Trump.

  295. jason says:

    People in Indiana were saying the same thing about Birch Evans Bayh III Last year, JAson”

    I don’t think that’s a good analogy.

    Indiana is a lot redder than PA, and Bayh was attempting a comeback he wasn’t a sitting senator like Casey.

    In addition, Bayh had a lot of problems like not being able to remember is address in IN.

    Barletta has no chance against Casey, and I think he knows it.

  296. EML says:

    Casey is already a pro-life Democrat. He doesn’t have much margin for error with the lunatic left.

  297. Trump says:

    I am beginning to think that you really are stupid, Phil.

    I gave you the reason why trump possibly did not remove Comey.

    Simply because his term was not up, unlike other appointees.

    Trump is lazy, maybe, and didn’t want to make a call when he didn’t need to.

    He can always ask for resignation, and fire the FBI director if refused.

  298. Trump says:

    So your question should be, why doesn’t trump fire Comey?

  299. Wes says:

    Indiana has also elected a lot more Dem Senators than Pennsylvania. Bayh had also won four previous elections with an average of 63% of the vote versus Casey’s six-point drop from 2012 despite his being a sitting Senator facing a political no name in a year when his President carried the state.

    I just threw BArletta’s name out there as an example. I simply don’t think Casey is invincible if the PAGOP can attract a good candidate into the race.

  300. Phil says:

    ….and Jason just gave you why Trump could have easily replaced Comey at the beginning of his term with no effective opposition from the other side. The term stuff is irrelovent. It didn’t prevent Trump from getting rid of the guy. Enough with the term crap.

  301. Trump says:

    F off, moron.

    No wonder you don’t understand anything. Trump didn’t fire him because he did trump a favor by kneecapping Hillary. Not hard to understand.

    Comey also helped Hillary by kneecapping Trump.

    See how the game is played?

  302. Phil says:

    …and of course there is no firing the guy now. Democrats like the guy again. It would be a firestorm.

  303. Trump says:

    Comey, the magnificent bas tard!

  304. Phil says:

    I understand fine. We just explained it to you. Got anything left besides F off?

    I didn’t think so.

  305. Trump says:

    No, you don’t. You are perpetually confused as to why things happen.

    You still haven’t figured out how trump got the nomination.

  306. Phil says:

    I thought Trump didn’t fire Comey because he was termed. Now it’s because he “helped kneecap Hillary”

    Make up your mind.

  307. Trump says:

    Your first question was not why trump did not fire trump.

    Go back and look it up, dimwit.

  308. Trump says:

    Learn how to ask the right question, moron.

    And go f yourself.

  309. Bitterlaw says:

    Casey is already a pro-life Democrat

    Not when he votes.

  310. Trump says:

    Also learn to stand on your two feet.

    Looking for confirmation from idiots like the la raza pimp makes you look weak.

  311. Phil says:

    Oh my God! You Really ARE Donald Trump!

    LMAO

    It’s been fun Mr Go F Yourself. Gotta go walk the dog. I know you have a busy morning calling out all the many “morons’ who don’t agree with you. Chow, baby.

  312. jason says:

    See, even EML, who should know better, thinks Casey is “pro-life”.

  313. jason says:

    Looking for confirmation from idiots like the la raza pimp makes you look weak”

    Would get some points but we’ve exhausted the la raza pimp treasure trove.

    Too bad Soccer Moron is too stupid to come up with some new material.

  314. EML says:

    London terror attacker named as Khalid Masood – a 52-year-old body-building obsessed dad-of-three English teacher seduced by ISIS

  315. Barrett says:

    Phil, be honored…SoccerMoron thinks you are a moron.

    Though it takes very little to upset this delicate flower, it takes great dedication to actually garner an insult from him.

  316. Barrett says:

    I’m still waiting for him to call me Barrett blob…I’m losing points here!

  317. Cash Cow TM says:

    If Bitter runs against Casey, I can bring in the PA Cow vote for Bitter.

    “Bitter” is very close to “Butter”.
    Cows like Butter, so…

    They will be in the BAG for Bitter.

  318. Cash Cow TM says:

    DAMN!

    I just saw the SIZE of that 14 stitches, 8 inch job the doc did on Walt’s shoulder to remove the 50 cent piece sized skin cancer.

  319. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…Khalid Masood – a 52-year-old body-building obsessed dad-of-three English teacher seduced by ISIS”

    The authorities should have been tipped off when he had his students conjegate

    “I run over and stab infidels.
    You run over and stab infidels.
    We run over and stab infiddels.”

    ROP. SMH.

  320. NYCmike says:

    Ok, see the “deadenders” own Obamacare, even if representatives who are NOT “deadenders” and/or members of the HFC VOT AGAINST this bill.

    ODD how that works…….methinks the deck is stacked……..

  321. NYCmike says:

    “Jaime Herrera Beutler is a no on AHCA. Not a deadender. Not Freedom Caucus.”

    -The “respected regulars” are starting to separate themselves again. MD may return soon, if this keeps up.

    The lessons taught to us by Scott Walker in Wisconsin have, sadly, NOT been learned on a federal level.

  322. NYCmike says:

    Let’s see who has a sense of humor:

    https://twitter.com/McAllisterDen/status/843826869023793152

    I know I laughed.

  323. NYCmike says:

    The media will stop at nothing to take down Trump, AND Republicans, which people like McCain don’t seem to understand.

    Check out this story about the dangers in car factories…..all of the accidents happened when Obama was President, or before, but somehow it is because Trump is pushing for more American jobs!

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inside-alabamas-auto-jobs-boom-low-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs/ar-BByCt0v?ocid=spartandhp

  324. Trump says:

    The confederacy of dunces coalesces.

    Four against one. I like the odds.

  325. Trump says:

    La raza is not done yet, pimp.

  326. Trump says:

    Jive does not look good on you, phil. Be yourself.

  327. Trump says:

    Chow. baby?

    Is that some code, idiot?

  328. Trump says:

    Are you hungry?

  329. Barrett says:

    SoccerMoron, it’s really gotten to the point where I just don’t know how to respond to you.

    No, I’m not hungry.

  330. Trump says:

    I was asking Phil,don’t know why you had to jump in.

  331. NYCmike says:

    T rump.

  332. NYCmike says:

    G F Y !

  333. Trump says:

    And just to point out the obvious, it seems you have a hard time dealing with things outside your echo chamber.

    Word of advice – if you find yourself echoing someone, one of you is superfluous.

  334. NYCmike says:

    Found this comment on another website, trying to find a way to keep disagreeing with it, but the evidence keeps mounting:

    “A bad muslim wants to cut off your head.
    A good muslim wants the bad muslim to cut off your head.”

  335. Robbie says:

    John Podhoretz?
     @jpodhoretz 11m
    11 minutes ago

    So the Freedom Caucus is going to deliver a mortal wound to the Trump presidency. Ironic!

    John Podhoretz?
     @jpodhoretz 11m
    11 minutes ago

    NeverTrumpers did nowhere near the kind of harm to Trump that the Freedom Caucus is about to

  336. NYCmike says:

    “Jaime Herrera Beutler is a no on AHCA. Not a deadender. Not Freedom Caucus.”

    -Robbie,

    Any thoughts?

    Is this person trying to become a member of the HFC?

  337. Robbie says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if the House Freedom Caucus isn’t using Ryan’s healthcare bill as a vote of no confidence on him. Their opposition, in light of what it will do to Trump’s standing, seems increasing ridiculous since they will be voting to save Obamacare.

    If this vote fails, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear Freedom Caucus members like Ted Yoho, Dave Brat, Louie Gohmert, or some of the other crazies suddenly start to say they have lost confidence in Ryan’s ability to lead the House.

    Just a thought.

  338. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 23, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    “Jaime Herrera Beutler is a no on AHCA. Not a deadender. Not Freedom Caucus.”
    -Robbie,
    Any thoughts?
    Is this person trying to become a member of the HFC?

    – I addressed this earlier. Freedom Caucus members are driving the legislation so far to the right that the more moderate members won’t be able to support it. And even if the House Freedom Caucus gets what it wants, many will still vote against it because the bill is not perfect.

    The House Freedom caucus are political suicide bombers who seem intent on making Nancy Pelosi Speaker again.

  339. Robbie says:

    John Podhoretz?
     @jpodhoretz 10s
    11 seconds ago

    So the Freedom Caucus is destroying Trump, Schumer will filibuster a good nominee, and Devin Nunes. The American experiment is going great.

    – It’s important to remember the House freedom Caucus members rarely refer to themselves as Republicans and that’s why they have no problem stabbing the part, not in the back, but in the front. They are most libertarians with boutique views or, frankly, uninformed views like Ted Yoho.

  340. Wes says:

    The HFC is an offshoot of the now largely deunct Tea Party movement that will never forgive mainline Republicans for backing viable candidates over kooks.

    They thought Trump was one of them and so backed him. Ibstead, Trump is a political chameleon thus far governing as a Coolidge-style right-leaning populist rather than a Brian-style demagogue.

  341. EML says:

    I addressed this earlier. Freedom Caucus members are driving the legislation so far to the right that the more moderate members won’t be able to support it.
    =============================
    This is pure fiction. The legislation hasn’t moved. Reps up and down the spectrum have said they are no votes: Dent, Fitzpatrick, Chris Smith, Andy Harris, Katko, Lance, LoBiondo, Ros-Lehtinen, Glenn Thompson.

  342. Phil says:

    Freedom Caucus is composed of Members from safe districts that guarantee their election cycle after cycle. It appears they have no interest in anything but ideological purity. They win their seats regardless of who controls the house. That probably explains their motivation here.

    That said, I don’t know are understand enough about the bill to know whether passage would on balance be a good or bad thing. Complicated issue.

  343. Barrett says:

    #337 – no one is echoing anyone. Unless you think that a Libertarian and a Conservative Republican are the exact same thing. In which case you truly are a moron.

    You need to perfect your criticisms and learn to articulate.

  344. Barrett says:

    I don’t think the AHCA in it’s current form will pass. They’ll have multiple opportunities in the future.

    I was doing some reading and it looks like 29 house members are a tentative “no”.

  345. EML says:

    Even if the HFC gets on board, it looks like the Tuesday Group will take it down.

  346. Robbie says:

    Phil

    I don’t know much about the bill either, but here’s the view I take. If the bill is defeated, it will be a slap in the face of Trump that wounds, possibly mortally, his ability to govern legislatively for the next four years.

    If the public gets the image that Republicans can’t effectively govern while holding all the levers of power, 2018 could be a bloodbath. And to that end, my early sense is 2018 is already shaping up to be a mess for Republicans. Wes may disagree, but that’s fine.

  347. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    March 23, 2017 at 2:23 pm
    Even if the HFC gets on board, it looks like the Tuesday Group will take it down.

    – And therein lies the mistake of negotiating with the Freedom Caucus. There will be no electoral repercussion for them. There will be for the moderates who provide the margin for a House majority.

    Trump and Ryan should have looked to break the back of the Freedom Caucus, but they went around Trump/Ryan and began negotiating with Bannon who has long wanted Ryan deposed as Speaker. An embarrassing defeat for this bill could get many moderates defeated in 2018 and cause Ryan to lose his Speakership before the year is out.

  348. NYCmike says:

    “– I addressed this earlier. Freedom Caucus members are driving the legislation so far to the right that the more moderate members won’t be able to support it. ”

    -What proof do you have that this bill moved at all “to the right”?

    Which provisions were added, taken out?

    Show some evidence for what you are saying.

  349. NYCmike says:

    n/t….where EML will be outed as a “deadender”…..

  350. NYCmike says:

    “Trump and Ryan should have looked to break the back of the Freedom Caucus,”

    -OR, maybe they should have went full blown, free-market, patient-centered reform, passed a bill AFTER an OPEN dialogue between all Republican members, taken the time to communicate to the American people, and then, after the public has been primed and the Republican Party has agreed and has the numbers to pass, bring it to the floor.

  351. Robbie says:

    Here’s the problem NYCMike continues to ignore. The Senate rules on reconciliation limit what can get through on a 50 plus 1 vote. The House has been hamstrung by this all along, but the conservative interests groups and the radio hosts have sold their listeners a lie. Those whipping against this bill have, simply put, LIED to their followers.

    As for the Freedom Caucus, they are not honest brokers. It is a group filled with cranks and crackpots. In the past, they have repeatedly negotiated/pushed legislation as far to the right as possible only to vote NO in the end because the bill wasn’t ideologically pure. Ted Yoho, Dave Brat, Thom Massie, Louie Gohmert and some of the other members are not to be trusted. They aren’t interested in governing. They are interested in placating the interest groups and talk radio.

  352. Robbie says:

    The Freedom Caucus looks like they’re about to place two scalps on the wall, Trump’s and Ryan’s. As I said, they are not honest brokers and should be cut out of all further legislative efforts. Let them scream and holler on Hannity every night, but don’t negotiate with them.

    Jake Sherman?
     @JakeSherman 8m
    8 minutes ago

    SPEAKER PAUL RYAN’S PRESS CONFERENCE POSTPONED.

  353. Robbie says:

    John Bresnahan? 
    @BresPolitico

    NEWS – No AHCA vote today, per GOP source. Still possible tomorrow

  354. Robbie says:

    Now that the House vote has been cancelled, I would advise Trump and Ryan to take a deep breath and re-evaluate the plan with people like Avik Roy and other conservative healthcare experts. They will need buy-in from people and groups like that in order to head off the Freedom Caucus deadenders.

  355. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.