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Election Night Thread – Kansas CD-4

We have our first congressional special election of the year and it has Republicans trying to hold the seat left open by the current CIA Director. Donald Trump is pulling for Republican Rob Estes:

Based on this article, Trump apparently won this district by a 27% margin.

Results from the Associated Press can be found here. Polls start closing at 8pm EDT

Posted by Dave at 7:00 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (785)

785 Responses to “Election Night Thread – Kansas CD-4”

  1. Diamond Jim says:

    I

  2. Robbie says:

    Since St. Marco Rubio now occupies he third spot in the McCain/Graham troop formerly held by Kelly Ayotte, does he have to wear a skirt or do his designer boots that make him look a few inches taller suffice?

    I wrote this only to trigger Jason. I’m predicting at least three responses from him attacking Jeb Bush.

  3. EML says:

    Weeks with no new threads and then 3 in one day. The Wizard is re-invigorated. Good to have you back.

  4. EML says:

    But that link does not give me AP results.

  5. PresidentPaul! says:

    These boots are made for flippin. One of these days young Marco is gonna flip on you…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSVmbzfLpzw

  6. Walt says:

    Did two more hours roto-tilling
    Pulled roots
    Raked soil level
    trimmed the holly bushes.
    **********************************
    I am a four chore whore.
    A sore four chore whore.

  7. Cash Cow TM says:

    Nice to have Dave the Wizard back and involved here.

    I hid from Walt all day to keep him from making me work.

    I was on the back side roof of the garden shed.
    Tee hee.

  8. Tina says:

    Pooty poot will meet tillerson after all

  9. jason says:

    – Jason still can’t accept that Rubio had no business running for president”

    LOL

    So the guy that got his ass kicked by Rubio in every debate and every other primary parameter had “business running for President”?

    The guy that spent $200 million for 4 delegates, HE should have run?

    Wobbie, don’t look, here is the real Jeb killer… I don’t want to spoil your surprise, you just keep looking.

    https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/12/20/Others/Images/2015-12-19/___b_beverly_bruce1450577890.jpg

  10. Tina says:

    Way to go mcamnesty, goober, war profiters

    Slavery in Libya.

  11. jason says:

    $200 million dollar front runner gets 4 delegates.

    Wobbie attacks Rubio!

  12. jason says:

    Way to go mcamnesty, goober, war profiters”

    Zzzzzz….

    Obama was President.

    Don’t like the Libya policy?

    Blame him.

  13. jason says:

    Exit polls look good for Estes.

    Wobbie hardest hit.

  14. Tina says:

    Anything less than 10 is a loss

    Jebot

  15. PresidentPaul! says:

    Jeb and Marco were basically the same candidate with their globablism/prison planet ideology. It’s kinda of like major cities throughout the world now days. The best sushi in the world can be found in LA, Miami, London or NY just as it can be found in Tokyo where you would have expected it. The people in the cities all kinda look the same with the same fashions. That’s the whole point of the diversity/globalism push so that everywhere is the same just like those political candidates.

  16. jason says:

    Before anybody panics these are early votes only and Sedgwick, although the biggest county, only went 54% for Trump, while the other counties mostly went for him by much bigger margins.

  17. Phil says:

    Sedgewick composes more than half the district vote.

    Yikes. Trump carried it by 18 points.

  18. jason says:

    A globalized world is the RESULT of the communications revolution where everyone gets to see what is available everywhere else pretty much instantly.

    It cannot be reversed anymore than you can stop the Internet or cell phones.

  19. jason says:

    Not sure but the Dem would have to carry Sedgwick by a pretty big margin to win the district. And if he got 60% in the early vote he probably won’t get anywhere near that on election day.

    Intuitively not so bad a number for Estes. Let’s wee.

  20. Phil says:

    Expect election day numbers to be much better for Republicans.

    They damned well better be.

  21. Phil says:

    Estes carries early vote in Barber County by 25.

    Good new. Not exactly. Trump carried the county 82-12.

    Ouch.

  22. jason says:

    The deadender has 1.5% …. NYC to say he has the right to deliver a red seat to the Dems in 3, 2, 1….

  23. jason says:

    The early vote is going to be better for the Dem…the probably had an organized early vote campaign… but the problem with that is that you cannibalize your votes.

  24. jason says:

    Returns are slower than Wobbie’s realization that the primaries are over.

    Well, that’s hyperbole but you get the point.

  25. Phil says:

    Estes wins early vote in Butler County by 11. Trump won the county by 46.

    Geez.

  26. Phil says:

    Republicans need to win big in today’s voting. I am betting they will.

  27. Robbie says:

    What site is everyone using to track the returns?

  28. Tina says:

    Wobbles could be right.

    After having a horrible record in 2016 and early 2017, it is now spring.

  29. Phil says:

    Edwards County came through for the GOP.

  30. Tina says:

    Or wobbles coukd still be wrong.

    16 monts of wromf, wrong, wrong.

  31. Robbie says:

    Again, which website?

  32. Phil says:

    Harvey County on the other hand was a disaster.

    These returns really suck.

    How do you loose a district in the middle of Kansas that you won by 31 points six months ago? To a fricken civil rights lawyer for God’s sake?

  33. Phil says:

    Look on post #11, Robbie.

  34. Phil says:

    Still think we can pull this one out but it will be too close for comfort.

  35. jason says:

    Harvey results are early votes Phil.

    Estes is winning Sedgwick by a small margin on election day returns.

    It’s now 55-43 Dem dropping

  36. jason says:

    53-45…good trend

  37. EML says:

    Two counties all in

    Edwards 74% Estes
    Kiowa 80% Estes

  38. Tom Cotton for Prez says:

    Good Lord, the Koch brothers live in this district! If the republicans can’t win this district, where can they win? Paul Ryan had to go! Speaker of the House Pelosi 2018!

  39. Phil says:

    Yes, if Estes wins Sedgwick today vote he should hang on.

    Quite an early vote drive Dems had going, but yes, it cannibalizes election day vote.

  40. Tina says:

    I am hoping that the drat wins

    Oops did i say that?

    Jebot.

  41. Tina says:

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg Just Stepped Up To The Mic And Called Lindsey Graham One Of ‘The Women Of The Senate’ [VIDEO]

    A girly man?

  42. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 11, 2017 at 9:27 pm
    I am hoping that the drat wins

    Oops did i say that?

    Jebot.

    – Sorry to burst your bubble, but I predicted Estes would win, albeit a narrow one.

  43. jason says:

    51-48..

  44. Phil says:

    Estes loosing Sedgwick County by 5792 votes with only two precincts in. If he doesn’t cut into that lead with the same day vote he is done district wide.

    Pretty pathetic.

  45. Phil says:

    Ginsburg is still alive?

  46. jason says:

    Thompson lead down to 1600 votes.. but most of Sedgwick and Harvey still out… Estes has to keep them close

  47. jason says:

    AP site sucking hind tit

  48. Tina says:

    Oh, yeah right, you predict estes, and he loses.

    0-45.

  49. jason says:

    stes loosing Sedgwick County by 5792 votes with only two precincts in”

    Well the Dem won the early vote by 6000 votes. So the votes since favor Estes slightly.

  50. jason says:

    Butler came in big for Estes…

  51. jason says:

    Deadender has 800 votes, half the difference between the Dem and the Rep

  52. PresidentPaul! says:

    #22
    Nope the politicians want the USA to look like a mall food court in an international airport. That’s why they the Democrats and Jeb!/Marco are putting half of Somalia into Minneapolis claiming that it’s all good economic policy. total collapse

  53. PresidentPaul! says:

    England and Sweden seem the farthest gone so far.

  54. janz says:

    Less than 600 votes between candidates, with Dem slightly leading. Tina, the RRH site has 3 links listed to access Kansas vote count.

  55. jason says:

    at’s why they the Democrats and Jeb!/Marco are putting half of Somalia into Minneapolis”

    Rand Paul said if you want to live and work in America he will find a place for you.

    I haven’t heard Jeb or Marco go that far…

  56. jason says:

    I think Wobbie is going to be disappointed….Estes is actually winning the election day vote in Sedgwick, the 6000 early vote margin is down to 5000.

  57. janz says:

    Over half the precincts in now and Dem lead has widened to a 1000. Race seems fluid and tight.

  58. Tina says:

    Janz, i have mot paid attention to this race. I understand that the r candidate was selected by gop.

  59. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Estes takes the lead 50-49!

  60. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Election day votes will be the last ones counted, and they should be heavily in favor of Estes.

  61. lisab says:

    ap has estes ahead

  62. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 11, 2017 at 9:50 pm
    I think Wobbie is going to be disappointed….Estes is actually winning the election day vote in Sedgwick, the 6000 early vote margin is down to 5000.

    – I don’t mind the back and forth we have, but don’t accuse me of rooting against Republicans.

  63. lisab says:

    lol … you have rooted against trump for over a year

  64. Robbie says:

    I’m currently watching “The Great War” on American Experience. It’s pretty good and a nice diversion from vote counting.

  65. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    April 11, 2017 at 9:56 pm
    lol … you have rooted against trump for over a year

    – I never saw Trump as a Republican!

  66. Tina says:

    – I don’t mind the back and forth we have, but don’t accuse me of rooting against Republicans.

    Rofl.

  67. jason says:

    Wobbie can claim a moral victory since the election is relatively close, although it looks like Estes will win by more than 5…

    The Dem ran agsinst Brownback, not Trump, and the Dem leadership did not nationalize the election, which was smart.

  68. jason says:

    Estes up by 4 now and 3k vote lead 63% in.

  69. janz says:

    Yes, Estes is now slightly ahead. However, due to a tabulation error in Sedgwick County a recount may happen there.

    Tina, I’m only getting into the Kansas election at the last minute myself. Don’t really know how Estes got the nod or support.

  70. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “– I don’t mind the back and forth we have, but don’t accuse me of rooting against Republicans.”

    Would not accuse you of that, it probably is because you have anxiety issues. It explains you falling into the “concern troll” mode all the time. It may be job related; you have to be calming and reassuring at all times in your job as a pilot, no matter what happens. The blog provides you a release.

  71. Marc says:

    I’m ready to call it. Sedgwick data dump… Thompson down to 54-43… he’s losing too much ground. Calling KS04 for Estes. Good showing though for Dems.. Good thing Georgia is a runoff state thgat will be the only saving grace for GOP

  72. Robbie says:

    Estes was a mediocre candidate who ran some terrible commercials. Did you see the one of him in an actual swamp? Regardless, Brownback didn’t help and Trump at 40% didn’t help either.

    I’ll repeat what I’ve said for more than a month. Trump’s approval rate is the key. If it rises, all Republicans will benefit. If it stays around 40, then ugh.

    As for the next race, Republicans just need to make sure Osoff doesn’t get to 50%. I see little chance he can win a runoff. Another two months of negative advertising will hurt him.

  73. janz says:

    The R candidate is pulling ahead with over a 2000 lead. Hmmm…

  74. Robbie says:

    SanDiego

    Was I right to suggest late last week that KS04 was too close for comfort? I’d say yes. I predicted Estes would win by 10, but in that district it’s not a great showing.

  75. janz says:

    Marc, where are you getting your numbers?

  76. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From Nate Cohen:

    “The precincts that have already reported in Sedgwick were D+31 in the early vote, so, on balance, remaining vote better for Estes”

  77. Phil says:

    Yep, Sedgwick election day vote being carried by Estes by five points.

    I join Marc in calling this one.

  78. lisab says:

    I never saw Trump as a Republican!
    ————————————

    well since he is a registered republican

    you are an idiot

  79. blobbie says:

    if estes doesn’t win by 100%

    it shows trump has hurt the party terribly

  80. Tina says:

    I am not a regestered Republican either, but I have always voted for a Republican.

  81. blobbie says:

    that would be 101% for hhr’s canadian readers

  82. Tina says:

    Estes is not the trump candidate. When the gop choses the candidate, we tend to lose these off season elections.

  83. jason says:

    He was a registered Democrat too for years.

    He is no Republican.

  84. jason says:

    Faster than AP.

  85. jason says:

    Nothing keeps me from registering with the Communist Party…. doesn’t mean I am a communist.

  86. blobbie says:

    He was a registered Democrat too for years.

    ———————–
    yes he was
    ———————————

    He is no Republican.
    ———————-
    point of fact, yes he is

  87. blobbie says:

    Nothing keeps me from registering with the Communist Party…. doesn’t mean I am a communist.
    —————————————–

    it would mean you were a member of the communist party

  88. Robbie says:

    Parody screen names are a cry for help.

  89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Pompeo won the district by 60.7% as an incumbent. That would be the benchmark to use. Could see Estes winning with 55-57% of the vote, despite Democrats focusing on the district. Its not a major difference, all things considered.

  90. Tina says:

    Borrder wall construction starts in san diego. 30 foot high.

  91. NYCmike says:

    Costco has a sale on 31 foot ladders starting this weekend.

  92. Phil says:

    Yep, and now on to Georgia and let’s win there. Get that one into a runoff and Rs will hang on there too.

  93. jason says:

    It’s not that close folks, Estes up by 7…..

    Poor Wobbie, thwarted again.

  94. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 11, 2017 at 10:21 pm
    It’s not that close folks, Estes up by 7…..

    Poor Wobbie, thwarted again.

    – I predicted a 10 point win. It could still happen.

  95. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    96.There already is a border wall along much of the San Diego County border with Mexico. Illegals and Mexican drug cartels tunnel under it and fly over it with ease.

  96. blobbie says:

    It’s not that close folks, Estes up by 7…..
    ——————————————

    jeb would have won it by more

  97. Trump says:

    Trump is the best Republican. By far.

    And he has paperwork to prove it.

    That the retard monkey and the la raza pimp can’t comprehend seems more like their personal problems.

  98. janz says:

    A win is a win. Estes appears to be ahead, with a lead that is expanding. That’s good.

    However, I think Georgia is going to be more difficult, just because of the Dem money flowing in and the stupid number of candidates competing against each other. What is it with R’s and their tendency to repeat mistakes over and over again!

  99. jason says:

    would mean you were a member of the communist party”

    Exactly… that is all it means. Doesn’t mean I am a Communist.

    Trump is a member of the Republican party.

  100. Phil says:

    How about 50 ft high and electric? Problem is, Tina, your nutty state probably won’t allow any construction company to do the job.

  101. jason says:

    Trump is no Republican and no conservative. Never was.

    Hopefully he will govern as one, anything is possible.

  102. Robbie says:

    Just a hunch, but I think the Montana special election could be closer than the GA06 race. Fortunately, the Democrats nominated a weirdo in Montana.

  103. NYCmike says:

    COSTCO has a sale on 51′ ladders starting Good Friday!

  104. Trump says:

    A distinction without a difference.

    There is no republican without the party. There is no such thing as a republican ideology.

  105. NYCmike says:

    A wooden one with rubber pads on both ends.

  106. Tina says:

    Eminent domain, phil.

    Greater public safety is bigger than moonbeam.

  107. Tina says:

    Is Costco running a sale on limoncello?

  108. blobbie says:

    There already is a border wall along much of the San Diego County border with Mexico. Illegals and Mexican drug cartels tunnel under it and fly over it with ease.
    ————————————————

    try to do that in israel

  109. Trump says:

    Merriam-Webster definition of a republican: Member of the Republican Party

  110. Tina says:

    In san diego it is largely cheap fencing.

  111. lisab says:

    Trump is no Republican and no conservative. Never was.
    ——————————

    he is unquestionably a member of the republican party

    he is not a religious conservative certainly

    he did bomb a country within his first 100 days sooooo … pretty solid republican so far

  112. Marc says:

    Este is going to win between a 10-12 margin..

  113. jason says:

    Estes closing in Sedgwick, the only county he hasn’t won. Over at DKos they are claiming victory however.

  114. jason says:

    More likely wins by 8….

  115. lisab says:

    There is no such thing as a republican ideology.
    ————————————–

    well … strictly speaking that is true, except the party is “the party of the open door” according to its rules

    but you do have a current platform, which skews right

  116. Tina says:

    Trump is more republican than many republicans.

  117. lisab says:

    Trump is a member of the Republican party.
    ———————-
    yes … yes he is

  118. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Excerpt from article about border tunnels:

    “Authorities discovered 224 border tunnels originating in Mexico from 1990 to March 2016, including 185 that entered the United States, according to the latest U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration annual survey. Many are shallow holes, but some are elaborately constructed with hydraulic lifts, water pumps and rail cars.

    The vast majority are in Arizona, where smugglers connect to underground drainage canals in Nogales, and in California, where construction noise generates less attention amid warehouses of an industrial area of San Diego, across from densely packed homes and businesses in Tijuana.”

  119. lisab says:

    j giles died

    rip

  120. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is more republican than many republicans.”

    -Enforcement of laws already on the books, you think, would be a Republican position……alas…..some would say it is a position of a “liberal Democrat”.

  121. lisab says:

    Authorities discovered 224 border tunnels
    ———————

    soooooooooo … you are saying these tunnels were ultimately unsuccessful

  122. lisab says:

    imagine what will happen if we have a government that wants to stop illegal immigration

  123. Tina says:

    I disagreed with him on ryancare and the syria strike. I coukd be wrong, but it is not very often

  124. Tina says:

    Law enforcement used to be a republican plank. That includes controlling illegal immigration.

  125. Tina says:

    Sean T at RCP? @SeanTrende
    Again, depends what’s out in Sedgwick County, but this could end up brushing against a double-digit Estes win.

  126. Phil says:

    AP just now called Kansas 4th.

    Took them long enough. Must have killed them. Of course, AP still hasn’t called Ohio from 2004. Just couldn’t bring themselves to do it.

  127. Tina says:

    Ap calls race.

    Rotties News Network wrong again.

  128. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    129. The tunnels were likely used for years, and think of how many have not been discovered.

    In one case, a discovered tunnel was again used a second time.

  129. lisab says:

    That includes controlling illegal immigration.
    ————————————————-

    whooping cough, measles, scarlet fever and

    especially hepatitis and tb

    are huge reasons to stop illegal immigration.

  130. lisab says:

    The tunnels were likely used for years
    ————————-

    and they were stopped … good news!

  131. lisab says:

    #137 it actually is not a joke

    if your child gets hepatitis or tb at school, it can be a death sentence

    and some tb is now highly resistant to anti-biotics

  132. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    138. And there may be several hundred tunnels that are not stopped. Perhaps spending billions of dollars on an improved wall may not solve the problem?

  133. jason says:

    Estes will win by 7…not a blowout, but not a nail biter either

  134. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 11, 2017 at 10:50 pm
    Ap calls race.

    Rotties News Network wrong again.

    – Bless your heart. Your tinfoil hat is on too tight tonight. I predicted Estes would win by 10.

  135. Robbie says:

    I see Jonathan Martin of the NYT has an over-the-top take on tonight’s result. He suggests this means no Republican is safe in 2018. Give me a break. Were Democrats safe in 2010 when they held on to Murtha’s seat in May of that year? Nope.

  136. Tom Cotton For Prez says:

    Wow! FOX takes Bill O’Reilly off the air.

  137. lisab says:

    “And there may be several hundred tunnels that are not stopped. Perhaps spending billions of dollars on an improved wall may not solve the problem?”
    ———————

    “may be”?!!!!

    well, unless you see long lines of illegals coming out of the ground, it appears to be mostly working

    and if you did see long lines coming out of the ground, a phone call would stop it really quickly

    as opposed to a 1500 mile completely open border

  138. Tina says:

    The san diego fencing is the problem, i heard, hiwever, that the rates were down in san diego, at keast before the obumbler.

  139. Tina says:

    House sources say investigation into unmasking is looking into the possibility that more evidence than just the Trump Team was collected
    Adam Housely tweet

  140. Chicon says:

    Well, I guess the doom will have to wait at least a few more days…..

  141. Tina says:

    Well it looks like it is trumps fault for the united nesting.

  142. Tina says:

    Beating

  143. jason says:

    All precincts in … Estes by 7, erased the early vote deficit in Sedgwick from 6 to 2k votes.

    Let’s see how Wobbie spins it for the Dems.

  144. jason says:

    I predicted Estes would win by 10.”

    You are a pathological liar. You were all about how “it’s possible Estes will lose” and “if its less than 5 points its a win for the Dems” blah blah blah.

    Yeah, you covered your ass by allowing for the possibility Estes would win.

    Zzzzzzz…

  145. Cash Cow TM says:

    Goody night night, peeps.

    See you again when after the sun comes up.
    God willing, and if the illegal alien criminals or whackadoodles don’t get me.

  146. jason says:

    Almost time for breakfast.

  147. Wes says:

    Republicans won by about seven in this special. Realistically either side can spin thee results to advantage.

    Republicans can point out althouh Brownback was unpopular and Trump motivated Democrats to turn out, Estes still won by a decent, though reduced margin.

    Democrats can say they came within the ballpark in a district no Democrat should be representing.

    I tend to think the only clear way the special results would have favored either party would have been if Estes hsd lost.

    As it stands, with all things factored in, Republicans won by a reduced but comfortable margin.

    As such, I see no specific tea leaves in this indicating anything for either side.

    2018 may be an ambiguous election where it’s unclear who has an advantage till the end. So far, I’d say it’s likely to be another 1970.

  148. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Now to next week’s pitched battle in GA CD-6. According to Nate Cohn,through yesterday, GOP early/absentee are beginning to come in briskly.

    Replying to @Nate_Cohn
    Day 13 of in-person early voting in GA-6 is R 52, D 35–best GOP yet, and in-line with RV pool.
    Over all, D 46, R 37 with 32363 votes cast

  149. Waingro says:

    All the “non-partisan” poll analysts on twitter today are definitely spinning the KS-4 special as being FAR more positive news to Dems than Republicans.

    Let’s see what happens with GA-6 first.

  150. Waingro says:

    Some of the “non partisan” tweets from last night into today, who couldn’t hide their “non-partisan” excitement:

    ” Nate Silver?Verified account @NateSilver538 36m36 minutes ago

    Nate Silver Retweeted Donald J. Trump

    Estes underperformed Trump’s margin by 20.3 points. If every district behaved like that, Dems would gain 122 (!) House seats next November.”

    ” (((Harry Enten)))?Verified account @ForecasterEnten 10h10 hours ago
    Replying to @ForecasterEnten

    Of course both men lost their races… but that gives you an idea of what scale KS-4 was on tonight. Dem outperformed bigly.”

    ” Dave Wasserman?Verified account @Redistrict 11h11 hours ago

    Last Nov., President Trump won #KS04 by 27.0%. Tonight, Estes (R) won special by 6.8%.

    Next up on 4/18: #GA06, where Trump won by 1.5%.”

  151. Robbie says:

    Poor Jason.

    jason says:
    April 12, 2017 at 12:54 am
    I predicted Estes would win by 10.”
    You are a pathological liar. You were all about how “it’s possible Estes will lose” and “if its less than 5 points its a win for the Dems” blah blah blah.
    Yeah, you covered your ass by allowing for the possibility Estes would win.
    Zzzzzzz…

    Robbie says:
    April 7, 2017 at 7:53 pm
    Sheeple,Jr. says:
    April 7, 2017 at 5:20 pm
    Robbie- here are things to consider in KS-4:
    4- If the race was close, why has the DNC locked its pocketbook?
    – I think is a very fair point.
    Again, I’m not predicting a Republican loss. I suspect it ends up 55-45.

  152. Waingro says:

    #157, at this point, given the excitement and spinning from libs, Dems and “non partisan” analysts from last night, Ossoff losing GA-6 would be DEVASTATING. T

  153. Robbie says:

    As far as any analysis on KS04 goes, I think it’s completely wrong to judge the performance against what Trump got in that district. The fair comparison is how Pompeo did. That said, several issues lined up against Republicans.

    First, Estes was a mediocre candidate who ran, at best, a mediocre campaign. Did anyone see the commercial he ran of him standing in an actual swamp? It was bad.

    Second, Sam Brownback is a lead weight for Republicans in Kansas. He’s widely unpopular and the Democrat effectively tied Estes to Brownback.

    Third, Trump’s approval rating is a factor, a big factor. A 40% approval rating gives Republican candidates little margin for error. In a less Republican district with the same candidate, the Democrat may well have won.

  154. Waingro says:

    #162, hey Drudge told me to get excited about Trump’s 47$% approval in Ras without the Ras today!

  155. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    April 12, 2017 at 10:56 am
    #162, hey Drudge told me to get excited about Trump’s 47$% approval in Ras without the Ras today!

    – I try and stick with the RCP average which has it at 42% today. I used 40% as a round number.

  156. EM DEE says:

    The election of Estes confirms that Vichy Republicans have destroyed the GOP and the nation.

    I am out of here.

  157. Wes says:

    Scenarios from best to worst in KS-4:

    1) Republican wins big.

    2) Republican wins medium.

    3) Republican barely wins.

    4) Democrat wins.

    We got option two. I’d say that has the potential to portend something but right now is next to meaningless.

  158. Tina says:

    I am. Oncerned about the ga special election

  159. EML says:

    Estes underperformed Trump’s margin by 20.3 points. If every district behaved like that, Dems would gain 122 (!) House seats next November.
    ==================================
    That’s some really lazy analysis from Silverhack. Republican Chris Lee won NY-26 in 2010 by 50 points. Six months later, Democrat Kathy Hochul won the same seat by 5 in a special election. Using Silverhack’s Lazy Analysis Machine (TM), in 2012 Republicans should’ve lost every seat they won by less than 50 points in 2010.

    Special elections are…special. I’ve been poking around Kansas a bit, and the Democratic ads all tried to portray Estes as a stooge of Gov. Brownback and I saw a whole lot of comments from Democrats on Facebook saying Estes = Brownback. It was not about Trump, it was about the second least popular governor in the country.

    But Democrats are certainly all-in on GA-06. If they can’t win a district Trump won by 1 point while spending $10 million, what can they win? Devastating is the correct term for a loss there.

  160. Bitterlaw says:

    EM DEE – GFY. Leave already.

  161. jason says:

    Third, Trump’s approval rating is a factor, a big factor. A 40% approval rating gives Republican candidates little margin for error.”

    BS. Trump’s approval is not 40, its probably in the low 40’s nationally. So it stands to reason its higher than that in KS, especially this district.

    Estes was a mediocre candidate? Maybe. But Thompson, an Army vet, was a registered Republican until 2016, didn’t run against Trump, and campaigned on “ending bad trade deals” and “discouraging illegal immigration activity”. And Wobbie is correct that he ran mostly against Brownback.

    In the end, there was enough local dynamics going on that extrapolating the 7 point win as devastating to the GOP nationally is a mistake. Of course the MSM will run with it anyway.

  162. jason says:

    I used 40% as a round number.”

    LOL

  163. Tina says:

    It seems that his approval rating, if the polls are beleivable, has popped up. He had a very good week

    Pooty poot had his tantrum and will now meet tillerson, after daying he would not.

    The job numbers showed employment gains, although the top line was weak,

    The gorsuch confirmation.

    The syria strike, which i was not on board with.

    China announcing trade concessions.

    Illegal crossings falling sharply. My home depot no longer had the extra helpers.

  164. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “In surprise move, Iran’s Ahmadinejad to run for president…”

    I think he will do pretty good in the D primary for U.S. President and tha…
    ___________________________________________
    Oh…they mean run for president in IRAN.
    Nevermind.

  165. Tina says:

    Notice how the jebots have moved from bannon, to jarod, and now to spicer…

  166. jason says:

    Yeah, you covered your ass by allowing for the possibility Estes would win.
    Zzzzzzz…

    Robbie says:
    April 7, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Again, I’m not predicting a Republican loss. I suspect it ends up 55-45.”

    Nice “selective” quote but that dog won’t hunt.

    Ok so lets look at some other quotes.

    “I believe Estes will win, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he lost. Democrats have a lot of energy right now and Republican, by most reporting, seem not too enthused about this election.”

    “I’d be surprised if the Republican lost tonight, but not shocked. I do think an upset is possible.”

    A 10 pt win is BIG, so a loss would be a HUGE shock.

    You can’t it both ways without looking like you are trying to have it both ways.

    Oh wait….

  167. Wobbles says:

    162, hey Drudge told me to get excited about Trump’s 47$% approval in Ras without the Ras today!

    – I try and stick with the RCP average which has it at 42% today”

    Let me clarify this. I always “stick” with the lowest number.

    And then I ’round it down”.

    That is how I get from 47% to 40%.

  168. Cash Cow TM says:

    I think American Airlines should adopt the policy of seeking out the weakest person on the plane least likely to put up a struggle and removing them.

  169. Waingro says:

    #176, no JebBot here, but Spicer is a dunce, Tina.

  170. Cash Cow TM says:

    POLL DUMP

    Trump bump pump, chump!

  171. Wobbles says:

    – I try and stick with the RCP average which has it at 42% today”

    I used 40% as a round number.”

    It didn’t stick very well, did it?

  172. jason says:

    United could have saved hundreds of millions in stock price losses and bad publicity and lawsuits by this simple announcement over the PA.

    “We need one more volunteer to deplane and take the next flight. We are offering $1000. Okay, nobody is interested, how about $1500. $2000? $2500? Until someone went for it.

    In reality it would have cost them next to nothing anyway since it would be a flight credit.

  173. jason says:

    Wain, I disagree about Spicer. It’s a tough job. The room is 95% hostile, as opposed to a Democratic administration when the room is 95% friendly.

    The Hitler comment was dumb, but let’s face it, he was not going “easy” on Hitler, he was trying to make a point about how evil Assad is.

    “Dunce” is way over the top IMO.

  174. Tina says:

    Spicer is way better than scott mclueless, ws stuttering mess,

    Yes, comment was not correct, but even Sissy Matthews and other leftists have said the same thing.

  175. Robbie says:

    I predicted Estes would win 55-45 on Friday. Jason called me a pathological liar for making that claim. I posted the actual comment from Friday where I called my shot so Jason tried to deflect to another topic.

    In summary, I thought Estes would win by 10, but noted there was clearly a concern by Republicans in Kansas about the enthusiasm of the base. That’s why Trump and Pence cut robo-calls. It’s why Ted Cruz went there to campaign. I wasn’t not trying to have it both ways. If I was, I would have said it was too close to call or a toss-up. I never saw it as such.

    Now comes a series of posts from Jason attacking me for some imagined thing that never happened.

  176. Waingro says:

    #184, I don’t know. Agree to disagree I guess. The evidence is starting to mount that he might not up for the job. But I respect Trump’s loyalty to him, and if he improves and I’m proven wrong, that’s fine by me.

  177. Waingro says:

    “Spicer is way better than scott mclueless, ws stuttering mess,”

    Oh, agreed there!

  178. Tina says:

    Wain, he did mess up, but I am sure he is not anti semitic. He apologized. They speak so much, they are bound to screw something up. On balance, he has been effective and has the media playing d,

  179. Tina says:

    If the report is true carter page was wire tapped or surveilled through fisa. There is no difference between one or the other.

    The fbi director, comedy, was asked if there was a fisa warrant and he outright lied. Of course, he could argue that he was never part of the campaign, but…

    Comedy needs to go.

  180. Tina says:

    The first family will fund their own vacations, per melania. This is a sharp contrast between the obumbler family, uh extended family.

  181. Tina says:

    Ryano et al strip border funding from bill.

    You all knew it.

  182. Gil says:

    Can someone with knowledge of Kansas tell how Brownback keeps winning with such low approval numbers? I seem to recall that his numbers were low before he won the governership last time?

  183. Wes says:

    Gil, Brownback was an incredibly popular Senator and won his gubernatorial term with 69% of the vote.

    He became unpopular for a variety of things in 2014 and looked to be cruising to a loss in November. Then Democrats got greedy and targeted Robertss. This caused Kansas Republicans to rally together behind Roberts and drag Brownback back into office narrowly.

  184. Wes says:

    Brownback is only the second Republican Governor of Kansas elected post 1950 never to lose reelection. Although Dems have never won any Senate seats in the state since Roosevelt was President, they have dominated the governorship for nearly half a century, frequently unseating GOP Governors and only failing to hold the office for eight years straight once.

  185. Gil says:

    Thanks Wes.

  186. Wes says:

    Actually I was wrong. Dems have held the Kansas governorship.for four years rather than eight twice: 1957-1961 and 1991-1995. They’ve held it eight years straight three times: 1967-1975, 1979-1987, and 2003-2011,

  187. Wes says:

    As to why Brownback became unpopular, he passed an income tax cut but failed to reduce spending, creating a mammoth budget deficit and became too closely allied with the Religious Right, particularly on abortion, thus alienating many moderate Republicans. Although Kansas is notionally conservative, it has very liberal abortion laws as Kansans seem to be more nuanced in their thinking on the issue than the Religious Right, which holds a great deal of power in the KSGOP.

  188. NYCmike says:

    “As to why Brownback became unpopular, he passed an income tax cut but failed to reduce spending”

    -Do these governors REFUSE to look at how someone like Scott Walker governs?

  189. NYCmike says:

    CC

  190. Tina says:

    MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell gets scolded in by Russian Lavrov spox, asks “Who gave you your manners?” when yelling question at Tillerson. https://twitter.com/oksanaylia1/status/852113741332303872

    Lol

  191. Tina says:

    Could not happen to a nicer reporter.

  192. jason says:

    Now comes a series of posts from Jason attacking me for some imagined thing that never happened.”

    I was careful to quote your own words.

    You say you predicted Estes would win big (10 points) while I quoted you as saying you would not be shocked if he lost and “I do think an upset is possible”.

    It’s one or the other. A 5 point or lower race you could claim the R might lose. But predicting a 10 point race and saying you wouldn’t be shocked if the R lost is playing it both ways.

    It IS a shocker to lose a race you are supposed to win by 10.

  193. Wobbles says:

    If Trump gets to 49% approval, polls have like a 4% margin of error so I prefer to play it safe and give him 45%. Then I will round it out to 40% for practical reasons and show some concern for him being in the high 30’s.

  194. jason says:

    Of course, he could argue that he was never part of the campaign, but…”

    I hope he DOES argue that.

    And if he does watch the MSM and the Dems lose interest in Carter Page in a nanosecond.

  195. jason says:

    Drudge is 100% committed to this “we are on the brink of war with Russia, China and N. Korea” meme.

    I don’t know what the point is.

  196. jason says:

    It’s funny the Dems are trying to claim meetings held years before Trump ever announced a run for President are supposed to be about collusion of Trump’s campaign with the Russians.

  197. Tina says:

    He being comedy, jason. I said comedy lied to congress at the time and now it is even more certain.

  198. Tina says:

    Msm, new line

    The russians really hate us.

    But I thought trump was pooty poots lap dog?

  199. Tina says:

    Lavrov appears to have admitted that assad used chemical weapons.

    Oh boy. Pass the popcorn.

  200. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    While I don’t mind Andrea Mitchell getting shot down, the Russkie can GFH!

    Fargin SOB’S kill journalists over in Russia and elsewhere, F them and their kind that use such terror tactics.

  201. Tina says:

    Well yes,but you are their guest and clearly the crusty old hag acted improperly.

  202. Wes says:

    I guess the media now believe Trump is the Siberian candidate.

  203. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope Walt has a good alibi. Where was he when she died?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

  204. Waingro says:

    Well, here is a bigly flip flop.

    Peter Baker?Verified account @peterbakernyt

    “They’re not currency manipulators,” Trump says of China in interview with @carolelee @MichaelCBender @gerardtbaker

  205. Waingro says:

    And another! He’s on a roll.

    Reid J. Epstein?Verified account @reidepstein

    Trump also tells WSJ he’s flipped and is now a fan of the Export-Import Bank. “Actually, it’s a very good thing.”

  206. jason says:

    don’t mind the back and forth we have, but don’t accuse me of rooting against Republicans.”

    This from the guy who attacked Romney all the way to election day.

  207. jason says:

    Good.. I have nothing against EXIM, their purpose is to finance export of US goods and services. And deadenders on both sides don’t like it, always a positive.

  208. Waingro says:

    #218, I’m indifferent on Ex-Im. I know it gets “abused” as does anything financially related to politics, but for the most part it serves an important purpose. The China flip flop is just plain amusing.

  209. Tina says:

    Be careful with those ny times tweets.

  210. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Politico/Morning Consult poll

    Trump job performance 48% approve; 47% disapprove.

    66% support the bombing of Syria.

  211. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    You have to go to the next to last paragraph in the Politico article to find the Trump job support numbers, am sure if the numbers were bad for Trump they would be in the title of the article.

  212. Waingro says:

    #221, good poll. He also is “up” to 41% in Gallup. So he may be approaching mid 40’s overall.

  213. Tina says:

    I rounded down his number to 32

  214. Tina says:

    No question he has had a couple good weeks for the reasons I outlined. Seems to have gotten past the fake muh russia story.

  215. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    216. “And another! He’s on a roll.”

    Its amazing what slipping into a position of power does to somebody.

  216. Tina says:

    Russia now talking about possibly removing assad.

    Lol

  217. Tina says:

    1h
    CNN Lies & Is Hitler? @NolteNC
    50 times?!?

    But-but-but the MSM told me Super Barry got rid of 100% of Syria’s chemical weapons!!!
    Matt Lee? @APDiploWriter
    MOSCOW (AP) — #US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says #Syria has used chlorine bombs and other chemical weapons on more than 50 occasions

  218. Barrett says:

    Russia knows they are busted. Putin didn’t follow through with the agreement to remove chemical weapons from syria in 2013, and now blocked the investigation that would have likely proven Russia’s involvement in the most recent Sarin Gas attack. Disgusting

  219. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Now Trump is holding a joint press conference with the NATO Secretary General, and he is blasting the Russians. McCain and Rubio must be pleased.

  220. Barrett says:

    Nothing will get European countries fired up more than chemical attacks akin to those in the holocaust. It’s a very sensitive issue for them, and likely why NATO is stepping up a bit…for once.

  221. messy says:

    227. He’s been hinting at that for YEARS.

  222. Waingro says:

    #231, he now says NATO is no longer “obsolete”.

  223. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    You can understand the Russians consternation now.
    For eight years they enjoyed the reign of one of the most timid, weak wimps who ever occupied the American presidency.

    Now their dealing with a strong leader, and the cake walk over America is history.

  224. Tina says:

    Yeah, while obama was president?

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    Luis A. Mendez? @AuthorLMendez · 18h18 hours ago

    Replying to @AuthorLMendez

    FTR I am absolutely of the mind that Dems are going to have a good to great 2018 overall. RS need Trump’s approval to start going up

    Considering Author’s 2016 predictions, I am relieved that he is so pro-Dem for 2018.

  226. Tina says:

    Atos mission was obsolete is what trump said and that they were not paying their fair share.

  227. Tina says:

    He always said obsolete since there is no provision for terrorism

  228. Tina says:

    Kim jung mentally fat, wonder what he is going to do next? China has truned against its client.

  229. PresidentPaul! says:

    Maybe Author’s wife is a radical like MD’s forcing him to adopt crazed anti-Trump thinking.

  230. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump at 47% in Rasmussen; and 48% in Politico/Morning Consult.

    Given the Democrats have been attacking him non-stop since his election, he seems to be holding well enough.

  231. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Kim jung mentally fat, wonder what he is going to do next?”

    Vaporize.

  232. PresidentPaul! says:

    You know you’re truly F#$%#ed when your wife has you campaigning for Hillary.

  233. Barrett says:

    Author is delusional and his numbers don’t add up. Republicans are already winning post-presidential races, and Democrats have more to defend in 2018 than Republicans, by a longshot.

    The numbers don’t add up for Author’s argument, though Dems might make a few gains.

  234. Tina says:

    Trump touts his relationship with Xi, says he thinks Xi wants to assist U.S. on N. Korea.
    “I think he wants to help,” Trump says.

    Seems like china wanrts to help.

  235. NYCmike says:

    “I know it gets “abused” as does anything financially related to politics, but for the most part it serves an important purpose.”

    -Pick any Democrat policy and this reasoning applies.

    As for the Ex-Im bank, it is a corporate subsidy (welfare), and on top of that, is unfair to smaller AMERICAN businesses to the advantage of larger corporations.

    A NET NEGATIVE.

    It should have been abolished.

  236. Tina says:

    EVOLUTION OF A CONSPIRACY:
    1) Video showed gas attack was faked.
    2) Gas was real but was Rebel gas.
    3) Gas was real but was Saudi gas.
    Bill mitchell twitter

    Lol, they are really saying that?

  237. NYCmike says:

    “Author is delusional”

    -No way! He only goes to Disney World like 26 times a year!

  238. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The blog “The Hill” has an excerpt from a book about the Clinton campaign entitled: “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign.”

    The excerpt is about one of Hillary & Bill’s well-known temper tantrums. What a totally nasty pair.

    If Obama did talk her into conceding on election night, he did the nation a favor.

  239. Wes says:

    MD was a Democrat chyeerleader in 2014 and 2016. Absolutely nothing could persuade him Daily Kos was wrong Republicans would do well.

    Author is letting his anti-Trump thinking color his analysis. Nothing empirically indicates anything at thi stage but mild GOP losses in the House and GOP gains of a few seats in the Senate. Given MD’s “Past is not prologue” record of analysis, I imagine he thinks 2018 will be another 1930.

  240. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – You have been repeating MD’s “past is not prologue” for years. I interpreted that statement to mean that while instructive in providing lessons and guidance, past elections do not guarantee the result of a current election. I believe that you took it to mean that he was making predictions counter to historical trends.

    Please note that I said this is how I interpreted the statement. Me.

    I do not believe that MD was a cheerleader for Democrats. Rather, I think he was depressed that Deadenders had harmed the GOP and that a scumbag like Trump could be nominated.

  241. pitchaboy says:

    Is EmDee=MD?

  242. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Chinese state tabloid warns North Korea against nuclear test: North Korea should halt any plans for nuclear and missile activities “for its own security”, a Chinese newspaper said on Wednesday, warning that the United States is making clear it doesn’t plan to “co-exist” with a nuclear-armed Pyongyang.”

    Lets see if the fat little runt gets it.

  243. Bitterlaw says:

    Pitch – I doubt it. MD vowed that he would never return to HHR. He has told me that on FB.

  244. pitchaboy says:

    Bit of a shame Bitter. He made pretty good points of many occasions. He should be happy now as Trump is turning out to be a “run of the mill” Republican. He has done a 180 on China, Russia, military intervention, import-export bank and I can go on and on. He may be morphing into a Bragadocious Bush.

  245. Cash Cow TM says:

    pitchboy,

    Do you know Scooterboy?

  246. pitchaboy says:

    To the extent we are both boys. No more, no less.

  247. Bitterlaw says:

    Pitch – MD will never accept Trump as positive in any way.

    On another topic. I have been helping a high school student apply to and decide on a college. I coached her in softball and she has been an assistant coach for me as well. Great girl. She wants to be a dentist. She is choosing between Temple University in Philadelphia and Massachusetts College of Phar macy and Health Sciences in Boston. She loves the idea of going to school in Boston. I think she likes Temple better as a school. Do you know anything about MCPHS?

  248. Wes says:

    I’m sure MD would say he meant just what you said, Bitter. Of course when I returned during the 2014 cycle, MD was quick to pounce on any bad news for the GOP and denigrate the slightest hint of a GOP wave. He’ll probably say I’m lying about this, but I don’t care. Had I seen MD even once admit Republicans could have at least a good election in the second midterm of an unpopular Dem President, then I’d think differently. I never saw it, so I’m sticking with Dem cheerleader.

  249. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes- Believing that Democrats are going to win is not the same as wanting them to win. I respect your different perspective.

    I concede that MD did want Trump to lose but he was no fan of Hillary.

  250. Pitchaboy says:

    My son goes to Boston College and it is a real nice city. However, Temple is better in almost all respects except neighborhood. Definitely, Temple, in my opinion.

  251. Bitterlaw says:

    Pitch. – I agree. She admits that If Temple was in Boston, she would choose it. However, she may be swayed by location. I have pointed out that no matter where she goes she will find place.

    She values my opinion but the decision must be hers. Why is she trusting her softball coach? Her parents did not to college and they have made it clear that she will have to pay for it herself.

  252. Pitchaboy says:

    MCPHS does give tuition assistance a lot more than TU. Yes, she has to make the decision. My daughters went to Hopkins. My son chose BC over Hopkins. I did not quite understand his choice, but he is happy.

  253. NYCmike says:

    http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/04/12/iranian_airlines_ties_to_irgc_111157.html

    -Maybe the Ex-Im Bank will help subsidize this deal for Boeing.

  254. PresidentPaul! says:

    Maybe MD had to keep it secret that he voted Trump so he wouldn’t upset his wife who was voting Hillary.

  255. Cash Cow TM says:

    WTH?

    I think I got a short shot of Walt teaching neophytes how to make WMDs…

    https://www.facebook.com/walter.duke.1/videos/1357728627622399/

  256. jason says:

    There is a new encyclopedia out…

    “What NYC Doesn’t Know about the Ex-Im Bank”

  257. jason says:

    MD was a Democrat chyeerleader in 2014 and 2016.”

    Complete garbage.

    MD was never a Demcrat cheerleader. Nunca.

  258. lisab says:

    biterlaw,

    On another topic. I have been helping a high school student apply to and decide on a college. I coached her in softball and she has been an assistant coach for me as well. Great girl. She wants to be a dentist. She is choosing between Temple University in Philadelphia and Massachusetts College of Phar macy and Health Sciences in Boston. She loves the idea of going to school in Boston. I think she likes Temple better as a school. Do you know anything about MCPHS?
    ———————————————–

    it is not even close

    boston is by far the best location for medical school, including dentistry.

    it is not close. temple is not close. what people do not understand is how small boston is. you can literally walk between 5 of the best medical centers in the world.

    now … for dentistry … i think tufts and bu are probably where she would want to go …

    but, i am confident that there is literally no place on the entire planet where there is a better medical education

  259. lisab says:

    one thing to consider is that dentistry is $80,000 a year in boston

    she can literally agree to serve in the military or in a city in the west and have much or all of her student loans forgiven

    or, she could just become a doctor instead of a dentist. i happen to have some knowledge of medical/nursing/dental schools in boston

    short term nurses make the most, dentists have huge $400,000 students loans to pay off and doctors have even more. but doctors have the advantage of 5 world class hospitals in boston sooooooooooo … it is a coin flip

  260. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Things are tightening in the early voting for next Tuesday’s GA CD-6 election.From Nate Cohn:

    Replying to @Nate_Cohn
    Day 14 of early voting in GA-6 is R 52, D 32–first day that Trump probably would have won
    Over all, D 44, R 40 with 39419 votes counted.

  261. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab – Thank you. She wants to be an orthodontist. It is the highest paying dental specialty. She will have the ability to pay off her crippling debt. My concern is that she also has other interests. If she goes to MC, it will be all science and she can’t even take a class on something just for academic interest. I agree that Boston makes sense as a base for further education. On the other hand, she will be applying as just another Boston student against all the other Boston students. I think she is going to follow her heart to Boston. She is the one who said her head says Temple.

  262. NYCmike says:

    http://www.govexec.com/management/2017/02/long-limbo-ex-im-bank-welcomes-trumps-sudden-support/135339/?oref=govexec_today_nl

    -Yup, what I don’t know, I then Google about, and see these statements:
    “The 80-year-old Export-Import Bank of the United States—which seeks to boost U.S. exports by lending to foreign entities in such industries as aircraft and highway-building–was last authorized in December 2015 for four years.”

    In the link that I put above, “LENDING TO FOREIGN ENTITIES” may mean the Iranian airline, run by a member of the Iranian Republican Guards.

    Great job, jason, Wes, any others who agree with the Democratic Senators from ND and WV, Heitkamp and Manchin.

  263. NYCmike says:

    Repeat:

    “In the link (comment #264)that I put above, “LENDING TO FOREIGN ENTITIES” may mean the Iranian airline, run by a member of the Iranian Republican Guards.”

    GREAT JOB, jason!

  264. NYCmike says:

    What I DON’T KNOW??

    http://conservativewahoo.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-clintons-ex-im-bank-and-aristocracy.html

    “The ugly truth is that the Ex-Im Bank is nothing but a taxpayer subsidy for America’s largest corporations. Doubt me? Check out this handy series of graphs. I liked this one in particular, but look at them all:”

  265. NYCmike says:

    “We note that “various small businesses” accounted for approximately 1/60th of the loan guarantees made by the Ex-Im Bank in 2013. The rest went to huge corporations. Oh. And go to Open Secrets and search for Boeing, Caterpillar, and General Electric. You will see that all of them rank highly as political contributors and procurers of lobbying. No doubt to keep those Ex-Im Bank loan guarantees flowing. This is, again, the essence of crony capitalism. It puts the government in the business of picking winners and losers among competitors, sucks money from ordinary taxpayers to benefit the owners of a small number of big corporations and their vendors, and no doubt makes inequality worse, like so many other government interventions. If opposing the Ex-Im Bank is idiotic, sign me up.”

  266. NYCmike says:

    jason, Wes, and any others who agree (or are INDIFFERENT) with Heitkamp and Manchin on corporate welfare, GREAT JOB!

  267. NYCmike says:

    DID NOT KNOW:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-bank-with-congress-in-its-pocket/2015/03/11/805ca29c-c74f-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html?utm_term=.46d50c1d41a5

    “Ex-Im is called “Boeing’s Bank”; America’s largest airplane manufacturer last year was the beneficiary of nearly 70 percent of the bank’s long-term loan guarantees, which lowers the cost of credit for foreign purchasers of Boeing aircraft. This, however, makes foreign airlines more competitive with U.S. international carriers such as Delta, which vigorously objects. Hochberg counters that Delta benefits from Ex-Im financing: The bank helps finance foreign airline engine overhaul services that Delta performs near Atlanta.”

    GREAT JOB, jason.

    Indifference fits you, Wes. Is slavery EVIL, or bad?

  268. NYCmike says:

    It would have taken jason 10 seconds to do this:

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/?s=ex-im+bank

  269. NYCmike says:

    Instead, he did this:

    jason says:
    April 13, 2017 at 12:26 am

    There is a new encyclopedia out…

    “What NYC Doesn’t Know about the Ex-Im Bank”

  270. NYCmike says:

    Does “crony capitalist” get A-Hole points?

    Maybe it is in jason’s personal interest to be a “crony capitalist”.

    Follow the A-Hole points, just make sure to wear your boots.

  271. NYCmike says:

    “I’m sure MD would say he meant just what you said, Bitter.”

    -He meant EXACTLY what Bitterlaw said.

    Only a person indifferent to the work of the Ex-Im Bank would think the way you did.

  272. NYCmike says:

    “Pitch – MD will never accept Trump as positive in any way.”

    -The mark of true intelligence…..when you know so much already that any new information is not needed!

  273. NYCmike says:

    Ok, enough for now……

  274. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn. NYC kicked in the door looking to fight.

  275. Wes says:

    Did you forget to take your meds today, Nike?

    I’ve never said anything at all about thye Ex-Im Bank. I haven’t researched the issue enough to post any kind of opinion about it

  276. Wes says:

    By the way, if MD hadn’t spent the 2014 cycle blasting any5 analysis saying the GOP could actually win in the second midterm of an unpopular Democrat President and issuing ad nauseum and ad infinitum his moronic “The past is not prologue!” proclamation then I wouldn’t call him a Dem cheerleader. As it stands I call it as I see it.

  277. Tina says:

    Seems like it is just corporate welfare.

    Oh well, anither disagree,emt with the president,

  278. Wes says:

    Oh, and I called MD out on being a Dem cheerleader when he was here. He responded by lamely claiming he had only preached his “Past is not prologue!” idiocy when MFG was declaring Obama would have to lose in 2012. When I pointed out I would never have seen it then because I was hardly here in 2012, he revised his statement to say he was just responding to Rdelbov when Rdelbov claimed 2014 would be another 2010.

    Sure. Whatever. He just didn’t know what the hell he was talking about and was trying to cover his tracks when called on his moronic analysis of the election.

  279. jason says:

    I am glad Trump understands the Ex-Im bank is not corporate welfare, its an essential tool for financing exports and thus creating American jobs.

    The rest is deadender propaganda.

  280. jason says:

    We can add a few more tomes to the encyclopedia.

    “What NYC Doesn’t Know about the Ex-Im Bank”

  281. jason says:

    I am glad Ronald Reagan agrees with Trump….or better that Trump agrees with Reagan

    “President Ronald Reagan, January 30, 1984: “Exports create and sustain jobs for millions of American workers and contribute to the growth and strength of the United States economy. The Export-Import Bank contributes in a significant way to our nation’s export sales.”

  282. jason says:

    Saying MD was a Dem cheerleader is a bunch of crap.

    Issuing an opinion on what the party’s prospects are in an election is very different from “cheerleading” especially in MD’s case since he is a staunch conservative.

    And the fact is MD had a lot more hits than misses in his predictions over the years.

  283. jason says:

    “EXIM Bank’s mission is American jobs.

    By financing the export of American goods and services, EXIM Bank has supported 1.4 million private-sector, American jobs in the past eight years, supporting 52,000 jobs in FY 2016.
    EXIM Bank is more critical than ever to small businesses.

    Small business exporters need certainty and protection to tackle new markets, expand and create jobs. In FY 2016, more than 90 percent of EXIM Bank’s transactions—more than 2,600—directly supported American small businesses.
    EXIM Bank is efficient and delivers for the American taxpayer.

    A self-sustaining agency, EXIM operates at no cost to taxpayers. Since 2009, EXIM has contributed nearly $3.8 billion to American taxpayers.
    EXIM Bank is vital to countering aggressive foreign competition.

    With approximately 85 other export credit agencies around the world trying to win jobs for their own countries, EXIM Bank helps level the playing field for American businesses. “Made in America” is still the best brand in the world, and EXIM Bank ensures that U.S. companies never lose out on a sale because of attractive financing from foreign governments.
    EXIM Bank responsibly manages risk.

    As reported to Congress, EXIM Bank’s active default rate was 0.266% as of September 30, 2016. EXIM Bank is committed to effective risk management and maintains prudent reserves to cover potential losses.
    EXIM Bank does not compete with the private sector.

    EXIM Bank fills export financing gaps through its loan, guarantee, and insurance programs when the private sector is unable or unwilling to do so. At the same time, private sector lenders are EXIM Bank’s partners.”

  284. jason says:

    Corporate welfare my ass.

  285. jason says:

    Let me adapt this famous Ronald Reagan quote for NYC…

    “It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”

    “It’s not so much that NYC is ignorant, it’s just that he know so many things that aren’t so”

  286. jason says:

    makes that “knows”

  287. jason says:

    Maybe it is in jason’s personal interest to be a “crony capitalist”.

    NYC voted for Trump but is concerned about “crony capitalism”?

    LOL

  288. Bitterlaw says:

    I can see why Miley is unhappy but it is not exactly difficult to find photos of her since she puts them out herself.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4407884/Miley-Cyrus-nude-snaps-leak-online-hacked.html

  289. Wes says:

    We’ll have to agree to disagree, Jason. MD attacked any analysis of 2014 as a good GOP year with great gusto and nitpicked everything to say Democrats would win that year. I’ve found exactly one positive post of his on the prediction thread. I guess a CYA was in order after the doom and gloom MD had been predicting the whole cycle failed to materialize.

  290. Wes says:

    I may be in the minority, but I don’t consider Miley Cyrus to be attractive.

  291. jason says:

    NYC is against crony capitalism, but defended Trump’s generous contributions to Democrats because he “wanted to build in Manhattan”.

    You have to admire the astounding hypocrisy.

  292. jason says:

    Right, wes, we have to disagree. Issuing an opinion on what you think the results will be is not cheerleading. Certainly not in MD’s case.

    There are exceptions, Wobbie’s concern trolling IS cheerleading.

  293. jason says:

    Wes, honestly, do you think MD WANTED the Democrats to win the 2014 elections? Really?

  294. jason says:

    That is like saying that because you and I predicted Trump would lose a close race meant we were “cheerleading” for Hillary.

    Certainly not the case.

  295. Bitterlaw says:

    I think that Cyrus is, at best, cute. Her personality is so grating that she is not worth consideration. Of course, I remember her as the girl on Hannah Montana because my daughter loved that show. Thinking of her as a woman seems creepy but she obviously grew up. I think that she is talented but she prefers to be put on a freak show.

  296. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    It was Waingro.

    Sorry about that.

    GFY!

  297. jason says:

    304. I don’t either. But then I never cared for trashy women. Sue me.

  298. Bitterlaw says:

    MD hated the Deomocrats. He hated the Deadenders for helping elect Democrats. He wanted Trump to lose but had no illusions that Hillary would be a hard core leftist as President. He did not cheerlead for her.

  299. jason says:

    Since he is not dead I would venture MD still hates Democrats.

  300. Waingro says:


    NYCmike says:
    April 13, 2017 at 9:19 am

    Wes,

    It was Waingro.

    Sorry about that.

    GFY!”

    What did I do?

  301. Wes says:

    The difference between what you and I said last year and what MD said in 2014 is that we weren’t going out of our way to find an excuse for why Trump would lose. In fact I don’t know about you, but I was saying Trump had a narrow but unlikely path to victory because Hillary was such a poor candidate.

    Any time anyone declared Republicans would have a good year in 2014, MD was on here to try to refute that analysis.

    He may not have wanted the Democrats to win, but he did a damn good job of making it look that way.

  302. Waingro says:

    Ah, I see. My post about Ex-Im Bank.

  303. jason says:

    Maybe MD had to keep it secret that he voted Trump so he wouldn’t upset his wife who was voting Hillary.”

    My wife hates Hillary with a passion. I don’t think she voted for Trump, but I never asked what she did for Presiden.

    I was just happy she went out and voted for Toomey.

  304. NYCmike says:

    jason keeps mentioning me, yet doesn’t mention the many Republicans who have come out against it, and the names in links provided.

    ODD.

  305. jason says:

    Jason prefers women of culture and delicate beauty.”

    Wow, the one on the right reminds me of… huh, never mind.

  306. Waingro says:

    Trump up to 48% in Ras.

  307. Wes says:

    In any event, I don’t want to spend all my posts dogging MD. He was usually a good analyst of elections and for the most part a solid contributor to HHR. I genuinely wish he hadn’t left.

  308. NYCmike says:

    HEH, jason posted something from promotional literature!

    In regards to this line:

    “In FY 2016, more than 90 percent of EXIM Bank’s transactions—more than 2,600—directly supported American small businesses”

    Check out the total $$$ of that 90%. As mentioned in the links I posted, small businesses received 1/60th of the $$.

    Even jason, the A-Hole, can figure out where the smoke is going!

  309. EML says:

    RRH/DDHQ GA-06 poll

    Jon Ossof (D) 39%
    Karen Handel (R) 15%
    Bob Gray (R) 12%
    Dan Moody (R) 11%
    Judson Hill (R) 10%
    Ron Slotin (D) 4%
    David Abroms (R) 3%
    Bruce Levell (R) 0%
    Undecided 6%

  310. NYCmike says:

    American taxpayer money may be helping an Iranian airline buy planes at a low interest rate, so then it can compete against American airlines that CAN’T get cheap loans from the Ex-Im Bank.

    Great job, jason!

  311. NYCmike says:

    Hope we have a Handel on that race!

  312. NYCmike says:

    Hope the loser Republicans don’t get MOODY and sit out a 2-person race.

    That will make it a tough HILL to climb.

  313. NYCmike says:

    “NYC is against crony capitalism, but defended Trump’s generous contributions to Democrats because he “wanted to build in Manhattan”.”

    -Exactly.

    I don’t criticize Boeing at all. If they can get Democrat Senators to do their bidding, and to get those same Democrat Senators to convince “Republicans” like Trump and jason that it is tax $$$ well-spent, good for them.

    They know who the chumps are.

  314. Wes says:

    I like Handel, but she’s run two weak statewide campaigns over the past decade. I think the GAGOP needs to advance someone else to the general against Osoff.

  315. jason says:

    ason keeps mentioning me, yet doesn’t mention the many Republicans who have come out against it”

    I don’t base my opinions on “how many Republican come out against it”.

    Bernie Sanders is against it too. Obama called it “a corporate welfare fund”. Mother Jones hates it.

    I don’t care how many moonbats are against it either.

  316. EML says:

    R candidates lead D candidates 51-43. Ossoff being under 40% at this stage of the game with the money he has spent is not seen as a good sign for him.

  317. jason says:

    330. Like who? Handel seems to have the most name recognition.

  318. EML says:

    I like Handel, but she’s run two weak statewide campaigns over the past decade. I think the GAGOP needs to advance someone else to the general against Osoff.
    =============================
    Handel lost to Gov. Deal by 0.4% in the 2010 gov primary. She would’ve won the GE if she had gotten by Deal. She followed that up with a third place finish in the 2014 senate primary in a fractured field – finishing ahead of 2 of the 3 congressmen. I wouldn’t call necessarily call her weak. Republicans have had multiple strong candidates in Georgia. Hard to break through. This might be her chance.

  319. Wes says:

    Moody seems to be getting the most endorsements other than Handel in the GOP field, Jason.

  320. jason says:

    HEH, jason posted something from promotional literature!”

    Horors!

    I should have gotten my information from a hit piece by the unbiased Free Beacon!

  321. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t base my opinions on “how many Republican come out against it”.”

    -Yes, I see that.

    You base your opinion on promotional literature put out by entities that make money off of this “institution”.

    Foreign companies get favorable loans, and then go compete against American companies.

    Great job, jason!

  322. NYCmike says:

    jason prefers special treatment for Iranian airlines run by Iranian Republican Guards, then calls Rand Paul a fool for not thinking Iran is a threat.

    Can’t make this crap up.

  323. jason says:

    The encyclopedia keeps getting bigger… might rival Britannica soon….

  324. Tina says:

    The benefits do not seem to favor small business. Per gao, ex im loses the gubment $2 billion a year.

  325. jason says:

    then calls Rand Paul a fool for not thinking Iran is a threat.”

    How would you define his position that Iran is not a threat?

    This should be good…

  326. Tina says:

    I rounded down trumps number to 40 percent, but it is up 2 from yesterdays rounded down number.

  327. jason says:

    The benefits do not seem to favor small business

    Red herring. Big business provides a lot of jobs too.

    Boeing has to compete against Airbus, which is a subsidized company. I don’t really have a problem if they get export loans.

    Big business is not bad business.

  328. Wobbles says:

    I rounded down trumps number to 40 percent, but it is up 2 from yesterdays rounded down number.”

    Right. Anything up to 49 you should round down to 40.

    Above 50, use the margin of error. So 50 is really 46, 51 is really 47, etc.

  329. Wobbles says:

    ou base your opinion on promotional literature put out by entities that make money off of this “institution”.

    Here is the official website. Read it and maybe you will learn something instead of just parroting what other Republicans and Bernie Sanders says.

    http://www.exim.gov/

  330. jason says:

    Thanks, Wobbles. Very informative

  331. NYCmike says:

    Rand Paul may think they are not a threat, which is foolish.

    Giving an airline run by the Iranian Republican Guard is also foolish, maybe even more so.

    Both can be true.

    Great job, Jason.

    The mullahs THANK YOU as well.

  332. NYCmike says:

    “Per gao, ex im loses the gubment $2 billion a year.”

    -Jason will ignore…..

  333. Tina says:

    Freedom caucus member predicts house passing healthcare bill in a few weeks. I presume they are dormant for the easter break.

    Reports are trump shoved ryan aside.

  334. NYCmike says:

    “Freedom caucus member predicts house passing healthcare bill in a few weeks.”

    -If this happens, I will step aside for the poster “Trump” to handle the archive search. I am sure he will do a fine job. Every post from Jason and Robbie will be up for inspection.

  335. NYCmike says:

    NYCmike says:
    April 13, 2017 at 7:30 am
    It would have taken jason 10 seconds to do this:
    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/?s=ex-im+bank

  336. NYCmike says:

    Jason posts links from places BENEFITING from Ex-I’m Bank.

    I post links to other sources which outline various issues, like how the following entities benefit from the Ex-I’m Bank:

    The Clintons
    Democrats
    Foreign companies run by the Uranian Republican Guard

  337. NYCmike says:

    ha-ha = “Uranian” should be Iranian

  338. Robbie says:

    If the RRH poll from GA06 is anything close to reality, Ossoff is done.

    The other day, I suggested the Montana special might be closer than GA06 and I think that still holds true.

  339. Robbie says:

    This will surprise a lot of people here, but, if the Trump administration was a stock, I’d be a buyer right now, at least for the short term.

    All of the stories I’m reading suggest Trump and Kushner have the White House moving in the right direction. The unnecessary hard edges are being smoothed out.

    This could all change tomorrow, but I’m as optimistic about Trump as I’ve been at any point.

  340. JC says:

    349 “Reports are trump shoved ryan aside.”

    =====

    This is welcomed news if true. Trump’s biggest blunder so far was trusting Ryan with health care.

  341. Waingro says:

    Jeff B/DDHQ?Verified account @EsotericCD

    BREAKING GA6 POLL by @RRHElections/@DecisionDeskHQ:
    Ossoff (D) 39
    Handel (R) 14
    Gray (R) 12
    Moody (R) 11
    Hill (R) 10
    http://rrhelections.com/index.php/2017/04/13/rrh-electionsdecision-desk-hq-ga-6-poll/

  342. Waingro says:

    “Non partisan” analysts are now already starting to spin and back track from their talking points about KS-04 that seemingly spelled DOOM for the GOP in GA-06.

    (((Harry Enten)))?Verified account @ForecasterEnten 9m9 minutes ago
    Replying to @ForecasterEnten

    MoE on the poll is 5.5 percentage points, but that’s just theoretical. The actual possible error is almost way higher given it’s a special.
    2 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
    (((Harry Enten)))?Verified account @ForecasterEnten 12m12 minutes ago
    Replying to @ForecasterEnten

    People also look at the closeness of the Trump/Clinton #s, but Romney won the district by over 20… and we like looking at past 2 elections
    5 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    (((Harry Enten)))?Verified account @ForecasterEnten 13m13 minutes ago
    Replying to @ForecasterEnten

    The poll could be correct. Specials can go any which way individually, so this would be consistent with KS-04 and CA-34.

  343. Chicon says:

    355 – oh, crap…..

  344. Tina says:

    Ryan and mccain stop birder wall.

    Disgraces.

  345. NYCmike says:

    ““Non partisan” analysts are now already starting to spin and back track”

    -waiting for certain HHR posters with the ability to fly a plane to do the same…….oh, he already did.

  346. NYCmike says:

    Tina says:
    April 13, 2017 at 10:44 am
    Ryan and mccain stop birder wall.
    Disgraces.

    -Jason to express support for them in 3….2…1…

  347. Tina says:

    Comgress approval down to 20 percent.

    Mitchie and Ryano are toxic.

  348. Tina says:

    Comgress approved the norder wall in 2006. I know they can elect not to fund, but it is the law.

  349. Tina says:

    14h
    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump
    Jobs are returning, illegal immigration is plummeting, law, order and justice are being restored. We are truly making America great again!

    Kim jon mentally fat is a legit threat, compared to asshat.

  350. jason says:

    I am happy Trump has understood the difference between campaign rhetoric and governing regarding the Exim bank. (actually it was NYC that told me that might happen when I objected to some of the campaign rhetoric).

    Throwing some red meat to deadenders is one thing, governing another. He now understands exports are vital for the economy and jobs, and the Exim bank is a good tool to keep US companies competitive overseas.

    If there are abuses, they can be corrected. But throwing out the baby with the bathwater is not smat.

  351. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 13, 2017 at 10:48 am
    Comgress approval down to 20 percent.
    Mitchie and Ryano are toxic.

    – Yeah, McConnell is so toxic the he won re-election over a very well funded challenger by 15. He also blocked Garland for over a year and got Gorsuch confirmed to the Supreme Court. But by all means, keep peddling your tinfoil hat alt-right garbage.

    How’s you man, Bannon, doing these days?

  352. NYCmike says:

    “(actually it was NYC that told me that might happen when I objected to some of the campaign rhetoric).”

    -Exactly. I was correct then, and I am correct now, about Trump and the Ex-Im Bank.

  353. Tina says:

    Bannon was pictured again. Yesterday.

    How are tour daily kos articles going?

  354. jason says:

    “Per gao, ex im loses the gubment $2 billion a year.”

    -Jason will ignore…..”

    Zzzzzz….price of a B-1 bomber.

    The Exim bank loans protect at least 1.7 million jobs in the US.

    If we are going to cut wasteful spending there are about 1000 things that don’t bring any benefit to cut before worrying about the Exim bank.

  355. NYCmike says:

    ” He now understands exports are vital for the economy and jobs, and the Exim bank is a good tool to keep US companies competitive overseas.”

    -Paid for by the Iranian Republican Guard Airline.

    Why fly United, where you get beat up?
    Fly Iranian, so in the future you can help us blow up!

  356. Tina says:

    And if bannon goes, he goes, he is not an elected official. Nobody cares about him, other than concern trolls such as yourself.

  357. NYCmike says:

    “Nobody cares about him, other than concern trolls such as yourself.”

    -B O O M !

    Robbie to say “super sperm” in 3….2…1…

  358. NYCmike says:

    A billion here, a billion there…..

  359. Tina says:

    Bottom line, nothing gets cut or eliminated. I can let the campaign flip flop over ex immbank go. It is not high on my radar.

    If he passed amnesty, then no.

  360. jason says:

    I am in favor of a border “wall” but it doesn’t have to be all physical, much of it can be “virtual”. It can also be a fence in many places.

    There is technology available with drones and sensors and satellites to monitor large expanses without actually having a physical.

    Where necessary like in some urban areas the wall is appropriate.

    However, ending the catch and release program, aggressively deporting those caught trying to cross, and deporting criminals will go a long way in protecting the borders.

  361. jason says:

    Making the Exim bank about the Iranian National Guard is so stupid that only NYC could actually write it.

    Fortunately, it looks like Trump is smarter than NYC.

  362. jason says:

    If he passed amnesty, then no.”

    If you define “amnesty” as some sort of legalization for illegal immigrants, then EVERY one of the 17 R candidates was for “amnesty” including Trump.

    “I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.”

  363. NYCmike says:

    I post links to other sources which outline various issues, like how the following entities benefit from the Ex-I’m Bank:

    The Clintons
    Democrats
    Foreign companies run by the Iranian Republican Guard

  364. Cash Cow TM says:

    DJT wants to expand the Export-Import Bank.
    **************************************************
    Wants to make it the Export-Import-Deport Bank.

  365. jason says:

    Of course, the part about “getting them out” first is probably flexible.

  366. Waingro says:

    I’m not seeing anything clear on border wall funding based on review of links/articles via Twitter. Seems like mixed messages.

    However, if it’s true that Ryan/Mitch are putting the kabosh on the funding for it — when it can be rammed through even in Senate with 51 votes due to it being entirely budgetary — that would be disgraceful and a pathetic betrayal to one of Trump’s main campaign promises.

    In other words: I hope it’s not true.

  367. jason says:

    I post links to other sources which outline various issues, like how the following entities benefit from the Ex-I’m Bank:”

    Zzzzz… I can probably find thousands of references from US companies that benefit, I posted one above.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-ex-im-bank-benefits-taxpayer-1403035317

  368. jason says:

    NYC agrees not only with Bernie Sanders but also Paul Krugman:

    Under normal circumstances, we can argue that ExIm neither improves the US trade balance nor creates jobs. Even if it does succeed in increasing some exports, the standard view would be that any expansion of the US economy would be choked off by a rise in interest rates as the Fed tries to prevent overheating, which would lead to a rise in the dollar, which would lead to a fall in other exports and/or a rise in imports. So you can claim that ExIm is mercantilist trade policy, and counterproductive.

    Against this you can make various strategic trade policy arguments, but the case for a special export lender is weak at best.”

  369. NYCmike says:

    “The Exim bank loans protect at least 1.7 million jobs in the US.”

    -How about tariffs?

    How many jobs do they “protect”?

  370. NYCmike says:

    “Zzzzz… I can probably find thousands of references from US companies that benefit, I posted one above.”

    -LOL!

    Millions of Americans benefit from Obamacare…..we should keep it!

    Millions of Americans benefit from SNAP…..we should keep it!

    Millions of Americans benefit from (fill in the Democratic initiative)…..we should keep it!

  371. NYCmike says:

    Millions of Americans benefit from free school meals, to the tune of 20% or more of EDUCATION budgets…..we should keep it!

  372. NYCmike says:

    Millions of Americans benefit from lower lending standards forced on banks and enforced by penalty if not complied with by the government…..we should keep it!

  373. Mr.Vito says:

    Sewercide bomber

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-gjfoZ_dWtg

    Have a Sh!tty Day.

  374. NYCmike says:

    Where was that, Boomtown?

  375. Chicon says:

    Hello Viro. Been away looking for MD?

  376. Chicon says:

    381 – very well played, CC!

  377. Chicon says:

    383 – meant Vito, of course.

  378. NYCmike says:

    Of course.

  379. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    Long time.

    Loose ends all sewn up?

  380. Mr.Vito says:

    Busy with MIL taxes, probate, etc.

    Back some other time…

  381. Bitterlaw says:

    CD

  382. Chicon says:

    399 – incorrect. CD-I

  383. Wes says:

    HAS congress ever had an approval rating above 35% since we started opinion polling? It seems Congress always has low approvals, yet Congressmen and Senators never lose en masse except in wave elections–e g, 1994, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2014.

  384. Wes says:

    1976 and 2000 are the only two non-wave years I can think of where several Senators lost their reelection bids.

  385. Chicon says:

    401 – this is why such a stat is irrelevant. It’s like your friends the lawyers – few like them until they need them, then they like their own. Few like Congress as a whole, but like their own Congress critters.

  386. Cash Cow TM says:

    The SOCK is BACK!

    Hi, Mr. Vito, ol’ pal.

  387. NYCmike says:

    Correct.

    It should never be mentioned.

    The number which would be important is the popularity of a certain policy – for example, it is ridiculous to dismiss a 17% approval rating for Paul Ryan’s healthcare bill, which jason has done repeatedly for the last 6 weeks.

  388. Barrett says:

    Moab dropped on afghanistan…yikes

  389. NYCmike says:

    Moab, Utah?

  390. NYCmike says:

    Or Colorado?

  391. Barrett says:

    mother of all bombs? 11 kt of TNT to take out ISIS operations in eastern Afghanistan.

  392. NYCmike says:

    Cnn reports Trump and Melania reportedly gave each “gol den showers” while watching the “MOAB” drop on Afghanistan.

    News at 8 PM!

  393. NYCmike says:

    Was Kasich in NH putting down Trump while this was going on?

  394. Tina says:

    BREAKING: House GOP to File Criminal Charges Against Lois Lerner in IRS Scandal (VIDEO)

    Very late, now lets do the same with the leakers.

  395. Tina says:

    Kasich is annoying.

    I call him Queensich.

  396. Tina says:

    Hopefully, kim john mentally fat took notice.

    1 mile bomb radius.

  397. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 13, 2017 at 2:25 pm
    Kasich is annoying.
    I call him Queensich.

    – But remember when you pretended to be for him during the primaries even though you were always for Trump.

  398. Wes says:

    Dan Malloy has accepted reality and will retire. This probably marginally helps Dems retain CT-Gov.

  399. Waingro says:

    #413, how can the House file “criminal” charges? Only the executive branch (i.e. the Justice Department) can do that.

  400. Robbie says:

    There seems to be some pushback on the RRH poll showing Ossoff at 39%. Even though all public polling puts Ossoff in the very low 40’s or upper 30’s, one of Politico’s reporters says private data shows him doing better than that. We’ll see. I don’t think he comes close to 50%.

  401. Waingro says:

    #419, heh, that seems like wishful thinking on lefty Politico’s part. Man, the left is gonna have a meltdown if Ossoff doesn’t win, huh? 10 Million down the drain.

  402. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    April 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm
    Dan Malloy has accepted reality and will retire. This probably marginally helps Dems retain CT-Gov.

    – Is there a Republican bench that can take advantage of his two unpopular terms, though?

  403. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    April 13, 2017 at 2:48 pm
    #419, heh, that seems like wishful thinking on lefty Politico’s part. Man, the left is gonna have a meltdown if Ossoff doesn’t win, huh? 10 Million down the drain.

    – If Ossoff doesn’t hit 50% on Tuesday, he’s a goner in the runoff. I’m sure even he knows it.

  404. NYCmike says:

    “We’ll see. I don’t think he comes close to 50%.”

    -You have been “concerned” about this election for the last month, now he won’t come close to 50%.

    At Dios Mio!

    Tell Maggie to call me……I could have told her this a month ago.

  405. NYCmike says:

    At should be “AY”.

  406. NYCmike says:

    Captain

  407. Tina says:

    Lying to congress, wain.

    Much like comedy.

  408. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    April 13, 2017 at 2:56 pm
    “We’ll see. I don’t think he comes close to 50%.”
    -You have been “concerned” about this election for the last month, now he won’t come close to 50%.
    At Dios Mio!
    Tell Maggie to call me……I could have told her this a month ago.

    – I’ve been consistent in my view Ossoff won’t hit 50%. In fact, I have written I think the Montana special election may be tougher than GA06 proves to be. But carry on claiming things that aren’t the case.

  409. Tina says:

    Rottie, yup ome of the few here

  410. Tina says:

    I think trump hits 42 percent

    Rottie polling network

  411. Tina says:

    Goober graham is praising trump on exim.

    Hmm, sounds like we are getting screwed here.

  412. Tina says:

    House Intelligence Committee confirms full blown investigation into Susan Rice.

    Lock her up.

  413. Tina says:

    People who agree with the #FakeBase #FalseFlag narrative:

    1) Russia
    2) Iran
    3) Assad
    4) Unnamed CIA Spooks

    Hmmm, nice company you keep…

    Bill mitchell tweet.

    Is fake base the jebots?

  414. NYCmike says:

    “Hmm, sounds like we are getting screwed here.”

    -Yup….jason is a conservative, unless he reads some promotional material which says how “NEEDED” a government program is, and then he turns into a Big Government Liberal, who can’t fathom the idea that this program could be replaced, or that there would be OTHER OPTIONS.

  415. Wes says:

    That’s hard to say, Robbie. CT actually trended somewhat GOP last year with Hillary’s lead over Trump being sharply reduced from Obama’s 2012 margin over Romney and Republicans making significant gains in the Legislature. On the other hand, with Malloy gone, Nutmeggers may look at the next Dem as something new and vote for him/her.

    As it stands, with Malloy’s announcement, I’ve moved CT-Gov from Tossup to Lean D Hold.

  416. Waingro says:

    #434, both CT AND RI trended more GOP than in recent POTUS years. Lots of WWC voters in those areas were very receptive to Trump’s message. It will be interesting to see if that trend continues.

  417. Wes says:

    My latest gubernatorial rankings for 2017 and 2018 factoring in Malloy’s announcement:

    Solid R Hold-

    ID
    SD
    NE
    TX
    AR
    TN
    AL
    SC
    VT

    Likely R Hold-

    AZ
    WY
    KS
    OK
    IA
    WI
    OH
    GA
    FL
    MD
    MA
    NH

    Lean R Hold-

    IL
    NV

    Tossup-

    CO
    VA
    MI
    ME

    Lean D Pickup-

    NM

    Likely D Pickup-

    NJ

    Lean D Hold-

    CT
    RI
    PA
    MN

    Likely D Hold-

    OR

    Solid D Hold-

    HI
    CA
    NY

    Likely I Hold-

    AK

    H

  418. Wes says:

    I tend to think Governors will be the site of the major action next year. Unless Dems catch a wave (at this point definitely a possibility but a far from foregone conclusion), the House looks likely to stay GOP by a somewhat reduced margin. Chances of Dems’ capturing the Senate are nearly infinitessimal even with a wave given the akeup of the Class One seats.

    On the other hand, this year and next, 20 Governors are guaranteed to retire. (I don’t yet count Cuomo for reelection because he hasn’t squelched speculation of retirement despite making some moves for reelection, meaning the number could grow to 21.)

    With all those Governors retiring and the general independence of gubernatorial elections from national trends barring waves, I expect both parties to go all in on electing new Governors with Dems ultimately gaining two or three.

  419. Waingro says:

    #436, if that holds, Wes, that is a good result for the GOP during a GOP POTUS midterm — even if Dems flip all the tosses and leans.

    The state legislatures will be even more crucial this year to see what happens, given the Census coming up in 2020.

  420. Wes says:

    I agree, Wain. Since I’m not anticipating a Dem wave, I expect Dems to make gains by inertia but come nowhere near flipping a majority of Governors to their side.

  421. Wes says:

    Of course if we do get a wave, then of course Governors are likely to go Dem. That doesn’t seem likely yet..

  422. Wes says:

    I might as well post my Senate rankings as well:

    Solid R Hold-

    UT
    WY
    NE
    TX
    MS
    TN

    Likely R Hold-

    AZ
    NV

    Likely R Pickup-

    MO

    Tossup-

    MT
    ND
    IN
    FL

    Lean D Hold-

    WV
    OH
    WI

    Likely D Hold-

    VA
    NM
    MI
    PA
    WA
    NJ
    CT

    Solid D Hold-

    HI
    CA
    MN
    MD
    DE
    NY
    RI
    MA

    Likely I Hold-

    ME

    Solid I Hold-

    VT

  423. Wobbles says:

    I am concerned about the Dem at 39% in GA, if you round it up to the nearest 50th percentile he is at 50%.

  424. jason says:

    Fortunately Trump is a lot smarter than NYC, so we will keep the Exim bank.

    Governing and deadender rhetoric don’t really mix very well.

  425. Tina says:

    Ice to deport 4000 somalis

    That is. Start.

  426. jason says:

    NYC, you never sent me that Hillary coffee mug you promised.

    Here is your chance to make good.

    https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/official-trump-pence-45-mug-navy

  427. jason says:

    Walt, why don’t you run against Manchin?

  428. Waingro says:

    #441, has anyone declared for GOP in MO yet?

  429. jason says:

    Trump drops the Mother of All Bombs (MOAB) on ISIS. A 21,000 lb bomb, weighing the same as 21 Tomahawk missiles.

    I wonder how many of Bunu’s friends were killed?

  430. Tina says:

    Bubu?

  431. Robbie says:

    It’s too bad Jason has nothing better to do than carry on a back and forth with one of the parody screen names he uses.

  432. Robbie says:

    Evan Jenkins has given strong indications he will run against Joe Manchin in 2018. Manchin has a strong brand in WV, but so did Mark Pryor in AR and Landrieu in LA.

  433. Tina says:

    They renamed the bomb to

    MAGA.

  434. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Trump drops the Mother of All Bombs (MOAB) on ISIS. A 21,000 lb bomb, weighing the same as 21 Tomahawk missiles.”

    Am sure it will give the North Korean runt in Pyongyang a bad hair day.

  435. jason says:

    obbie says:
    April 13, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    It’s too bad Jason has nothing better to do than carry on a back and forth with one of the parody screen names he uses.”

    Yes, it looks like you have a lot of things better to do than concern post here.

    Oh, wait…

  436. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I have lived in Moab, Utah. Am sure a lot of the ecofreak residents will be excited to know a bomb has their town’s name.

  437. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    441. Great rankings Wes.

  438. Chicon says:

    Looks like Robbie’s friend Napolitano might have been right. CNN says the Brits intercepted Trump campaign calls, gave copies to BHO.

  439. Tina says:

    No, that cannot be true. There is no evidence.

  440. Wobbles says:

    I am too busy and important to post here.

    Sorry.

  441. NYCmike says:

    Chicon says:
    April 13, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    Looks like Robbie’s friend Napolitano might have been right. CNN says the Brits intercepted Trump campaign calls, gave copies to BHO.

    -Shocking!

  442. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    April 13, 2017 at 5:25 pm
    Looks like Robbie’s friend Napolitano might have been right. CNN says the Brits intercepted Trump campaign calls, gave copies to BHO.

    – Napolitano claimed Obama asked GCHQ to spy on Trump so it would be out of the US chain of command.

    I’m dubious of the CNN and Guardian stories in the sense that what they did was either unique or unusual.

  443. Robbie says:

    It’s hardly a surprise that NYCMike is running to the defense of Napolitano considering he continues to support clown candidates like Mourdock.

  444. Tina says:

    Mapolitano is correct. Otherwise, given the libtards running faux, he would be gone.

    Why would hillary mention the server in a late oct tweet?

  445. Tina says:

    And faux should have fired shepherdly smith, perez hilton 2.0, since he claimed ties existed.

  446. Tina says:

    Napolitano would be a sc pick, if he was ttwenty p,us years younger.

    He is better than mark levine.

  447. Wobbles says:

    Look, if its not from the MSM its not news.

    That’s my motto.

    Catchy huh?

  448. Tina says:

    Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House committee, has expressed an interest in hearing from Christopher Steele, the former MI6 officer whose dossier accuses the president of long-term cooperation with Vladimir Putin’s Moscow. Trump and Putin have both dismissed the dossier as fake.

    Fake, the dossier was passed to senile Mcamnesty.

  449. Tina says:

    The dossier was reported to be fake.

  450. Wobbles says:

    Damm, it sucks to be me.

    Estes wins..Trump at 48%… then Napolitano is right?

    I don’t know how much more of this I can take.

  451. NYCmike says:

    Both Robbie and jason, two peeps in a pod, when confronted with evidence from other sources, stick to the tried and true tactic of ignoring the other source, while bringing up a different subject.

    Well done. Bravo!

  452. Tina says:

    Trump, we will keepi winning.

    Rottie, we will keep losing.

    Kim jing mentalky ill, we will keep on being fat.

  453. Tina says:

    Everything, i have posted on the surveillance aka wiretapping has been right.

  454. Tina says:

    And remember to the jebot leakers, not saying rottie was or is one of them, the ag never recused himself on prosecuting.

  455. NYCmike says:

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/12/trumps-budget-director-confirms-the-expo

    -Trump declares it a “very good thing”.

    jason and MD to find it morally good in 3….2….1…

  456. NYCmike says:

    Also wanted to mention, in regards to Robbie’s obsession with Bannon, and in earlier day, Kellyanne Conway – if those two did not agree to take on Trump, we are probably looking at President Hillary.

    For that, I will definitely wait to hear more facts before judging what is said about them by the MSM.

  457. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    President Trump on North Korea: “North Korea’s a problem. The problem will be taken care of”

    Am getting the impression that this man does not make idle threats.

  458. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is such a change from a weak president that was afraid of his shadow. Trump is reminding me a lot of Reagan.

  459. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    Andrew Napolitano is a noted conspiracy theorist. That you can’t accept that is not my problem. It’s yours.

    From his Wikipedia page:

    “Napolitano has promoted 9/11 conspiracy theories. In 2010, he said, “it’s hard for me to believe that it came down by itself… I am gratified to see that people across the board are interested. I think twenty years from now, people will look at 9-11 the way we look at the assassination of JFK today. It couldn’t possibly have been done the way the government told us.”

    In other words, Napolitano feels the same way about 9/11 as Rosie “fire can’t melt steel” O’Donnell. But yeah, let’s take his word on a story he got from another fool named Larry Johnson.

  460. jason says:

    Both Robbie and jason, two peeps in a pod, when confronted with evidence from other sources, stick to the tried and true tactic of ignoring the other source, while bringing up a different subject.”

    Huh, GFY, I never agreed with Wobbie on this.

    I am perfectly willing to accept Napolitano was right, and always said that.

    GFY again.

  461. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    April 13, 2017 at 5:43 pm
    Look, if its not from the MSM its not news.
    That’s my motto.
    Catchy huh?

    – So when I just questioned whether the CNN story is really believable, was I attacking the MSM or not?

  462. PresidentPaul! says:

    Huffpost proposes stripping white males (white privilege people) of the right to vote because Trump.

    http://freebeacon.com/culture/huffington-post-blog-suggests-taking-away-white-mens-right-vote

    “”It is time to wrestle control of the world back from white males, and the first step will be a temporary restriction of the franchise to them,” according to Garland.

    “If white men no longer had the vote, the progressive cause would be strengthened,” she explained. “It would not be necessary to deny white men indefinitely–the denial of the vote to white men for 20 years (just less than a generation) would go some way to seeing a decline in the influence of reactionary and neo-liberal ideology in the world.”

    Garland blames white men for electing Donald Trump and voting for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union.

    “The influence of reckless white males were one of the primary reasons that led to the Great Recession which began in 2008,” she added. “This would also strike a blow against toxic white masculinity, one that is long needed.”

  463. Robbie says:

    The Trump campaign operated marginally better after Bannon and Conway came on board, but only marginally. They still had to deal with the “Access Hollywood” tape which was worse than anything that happened when Lewandowski and Manafort ran the show.

    The one thing Bannon did accomplish is, during the last ten days of the campaign, he convinced Trump to turn his Twitter feed over to the staff.

  464. Chicon says:

    479 – the guy can be a kook, and be correct about something. Both can be true. Try to remember this lesson, Grasshopper.

  465. Tina says:

    Bannon got the 2nd debate staged well.

    That and her thighnenss falling on 9/11 did her in.

  466. Robbie says:

    More from Judge Napolitano.

    “It’s hard for me to believe that [WTC7] came down by itself. I was gratified to see Geraldo Rivera investigating it. I’m gratified to see the people across the border interested,” Napolitano said in an interview on conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ radio show. “I think 20 years from now, people will look at 9/11 the way they look at the assassination of JFK today. It couldn’t possibly have been done the way the government told us.”

  467. Robbie says:

    Steve Bannon is the Icarus of the Trump administration. He flew too close to the sun and his wings melted. He forgot he was there to pursue Trump’s agenda, not his own. Now by all accounts, he’s isolated and his role has been greatly diminished.

    I suppose things could always change, but Bannon is now like Kellyanne Conway. After a series of amazing gaffes, she’s been almost totally sidelined in the White House. She occasionally appears on FoxNews, but you’ll never see another experience like she had with Jake Tapper.

    Bannon is not a strategist with any political cunning. He’s a media guy who used Breitbart to push his agenda. But outside of Matt Boyle, Julia Hahn, and a few others, there just aren’t many who subscribe to his version of aggressive nationalism. He should be at a super pac pushing Trump’s agenda. Several outlets suggest the Mercer family is already planning for the day he comes to work for them.

  468. Tina says:

    Zzzzz

    Garbage in and garbage out.

  469. PresidentPaul! says:

    487
    Nope, Trump surrounded himself with those who were hostile to what he campaigned on: Mattis, McMaster, Kelley, Haley, Pompeo.

    That’s why Trump is getting sidetracked to some extent but that’s kind of his own fault for appointing those people.

  470. jason says:

    Zzzzzz

    Translation: I can’t forgive Bannon and Conway for getting Trump elected.

    Poor Wobbie, so transparent.

  471. jason says:

    Poor Bunu.

    So disappointed….

    Bunu, if you wanted someone for unilateral surrender for terrorists, you should have written in Ron Paul.

  472. jason says:

    Wobbie and Bunu should get a room and commiserate together…

  473. jason says:

    So when I just questioned whether the CNN story is really believable, was I attacking the MSM or not?”

    No, it just shows what a fraud you are.

    You only “attacked” CNN because for once it didn’t jive with your narrative.

    When you start attacking CNN for bogus attacks on Trump, you might get some credibility.

  474. Wes says:

    Who here other than I believes even L. Ron Paul would start bombing terrorists rather than surrendering to them if America ever came under attack?

  475. Chicon says:

    Robbie’s favorite judge, Mr. Napolitano, says the Syria strike was emotional and illegal. Someone must have told him that the Supreme Court seat promised to him has been taken.

  476. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 13, 2017 at 7:05 pm
    Zzzzzz
    Translation: I can’t forgive Bannon and Conway for getting Trump elected.
    Poor Wobbie, so transparent.

    – You take being a stupid jackass to a whole new level. Congrats.

  477. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 13, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    You only “attacked” CNN because for once it didn’t jive with your narrative.
    When you start attacking CNN for bogus attacks on Trump, you might get some credibility.

    – Oh, so you accept my view the Russia collusion story is crap. Glad to know that we agree.

  478. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    April 13, 2017 at 7:16 pm
    Robbie’s favorite judge, Mr. Napolitano, says the Syria strike was emotional and illegal. Someone must have told him that the Supreme Court seat promised to him has been taken.

    – Napolitano has always been a libertarian. That explains why he’s prone to believe conspiracies.

  479. Wes says:

    Napolitano says Obama shouldn’t have had bin Laden killed because the President can have anyone killed if he can order a hit on a foreign national.

    I guess Napolitano never read the 14th Amendment, whikch explicitly grants constitutional rights only to American citizens.

    What a terrorist-coddling ass.

  480. Bitterlaw says:

    D

  481. Wes says:

    The ideal breast size.

  482. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    April 13, 2017 at 7:40 pm
    The ideal breast size.

    – Depends on the size and height of the girl.

  483. Chicon says:

    498 – the point is that the Judge criticized the President. Not wise for the guy who believes he’s on the short list for the next Supreme Court seat.

  484. Bitterlaw says:

    Who here other than I believes even L. Ron Paul would start bombing terrorists rather than surrendering to them if America ever came under attack?

    That depends on whether the terrorists promised to audit the Fed.

  485. jason says:

    Who here other than I believes even L. Ron Paul would start bombing terrorists rather than surrendering to them if America ever came under attack?”

    Not me.

  486. jason says:

    This might be WAPO fake news but it has some explosive words that will rattle NYC….the person not the city.

    “Centrist” and “bi-partisan” …horrors…

    “As power struggles and ideological battles engulfed the White House, an unlikely player is exercising new influence on the direction of President Trump’s administration.

    Gary Cohn, a former Goldman Sachs president, is capitalizing on his new position as director of Trump’s National Economic Council to push a centrist vision and court bipartisan support on some of Trump’s top agenda items such as tax reform and a $1 trillion infrastructure plan.

    The growing strength of Cohn and like-minded moderates was on display this week as Trump reversed himself on several high-profile issues — including a less confrontational approach to China, an endorsement of government subsidies for exports and the current leadership of the Federal Reserve. The president’s new positions move him much closer to the views of Cohn and others on Wall Street, not to mention mainstream Republicans and Democrats.”

    It was the clearest sign yet that an alliance of moderates in the White House — including Cohn; senior adviser Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law; and another influential Goldman Sachs alumna, Dina Powell — is racking up successes in a battle over ideology and control with hardcore conservatives led by chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, who held sway at the start of the administration.

  487. jason says:

    Who here other than I believes even L. Ron Paul would start bombing terrorists”

    Most Paulbots don’t even believe you need a standing army, Bunu rails against it all the time.

    Who is going to bomb them?

  488. jason says:

    Napolitano was never going to be considered for SCOTUS, you read it here first.

  489. jason says:

    – You take being a stupid jackass to a whole new level. Congrats.”

    Translation: Ma, got a direct hit!

  490. jason says:

    Now watching the “THE CHOICE”, Katic Couric’s election night special.

    Frank Luntz makes a huge ass of himself in the first 30 minutes, hilarious.

    I can’t wait the panel of flaming liberals realizes things are going bad for Hillary.

    Mr. Vito and DW, have you guys seen it?

  491. Wes says:

    Cultists believe the idiocy promulgated by their leaders, Jason. I doubt Ron Paul believes 99% of what the Paulbots claim. He just uses their delusions to line his pockets.

  492. Robbie says:

    No, Jason did not score a direct hit. Sadly, Jason has made it his objective here to oppose anything and everything I write. That’s his choice, but, in this case, it means he has decided to support Bannon, a self described Lenonist, and Conway, a woman who has always worked for deadender candidates like the presidential efforts of Newt and Cruz. Those are two people, by the way, who Jason doesn’t like.

    I’m not sure how Jason squares his vision of conservative Republicanism with the policies of Bannon and Conway, but it doesn’t change the fact they have both contributed to multiple missteps during Trump’s first 100 days. Bannon was the force behind the fiasco immigration orders and the final effort to pass healthcare reform. Conway, meanwhile, made one PR gaffe after another culminating in her being sidelined with next to nothing to do. How can anyone forget she said Trump had full confidence in Flynn just three hours before Flynn was fired.

  493. NYCmike says:

    “Sadly, Jason has made it his objective here to oppose anything and everything I write.”

    -Did you just write this?

    You are over 13 years old, correct?

  494. NYCmike says:

    ” Bannon was the force behind the fiasco immigration orders”

    -Who was the “force” behind the next immigration orders?

    You know, the one which is ALSO NOT IN AFFECT, just like the “fiasco”.

  495. NYCmike says:

    “I’m not sure how Jason squares his vision of conservative Republicanism with the policies of Bannon and Conway, but it doesn’t change the fact they have both contributed to multiple missteps during Trump’s first 100 days.”

    -90% of the country DON’T KNOW who these people are!

    NOBODY CARES about them!

    Please STOP bringing them up due to stories you read in the MSM.

  496. NYCmike says:

    #506 – As with most things, there are issues worth compromising on, and issues worth sticking to principles.

    In regards to the Ex-Im Bank, I am simply correct in my assessment – it is more detrimental to this country than beneficial.

    It should die a silent death. We’ll see if the House has any say in the matter.

    In regards to the compromises that Gary Cohn is looking at, if our yearly deficit keeps reaching Obama levels, then I would oppose it. If we get back to Dubya-level deficits, it would still be bad, but more willing to take the short-term hit…..IF healthcare and corporate tax rates are worked on in a conservative fashion.

  497. jason says:

    “THat’s his choice, but, in this case, it means he has decided to support Bannon, a self described Lenonist, and Conway, a woman who has always worked for deadender candidates like the presidential efforts of Newt and Cruz. Those are two people, by the way, who Jason doesn’t like.”

    Zzzzzzz…. not giving Conway credit for her brilliant campaign strategy and in righting the Trump campaign ship is typical of someone who is still not able to cope with the primary results. Conway saw the opportunity in the rust belt states and went for it full blast. She was an excellent surrogate on TV. So I admire her success, who cares who she worked for before Trump. The proof was in the pudding.

    As for Bannon, I don’t “support” him. I don’t agree with him on many issues, certainly trade and foreign policy. He was not someone I would have suggested for chief strategist. But again, he showed very good political instincts during the campaign, certainly better than Wobbie’s. And he is no white supremacist. I don’t believe every cheap MSM hit on him like Wobbie does.

  498. Tina says:

    Straight daily kos talking points.

    More zzzzz

  499. jason says:

    Sadly, Jason has made it his objective here to oppose anything and everything I write.”

    Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh…..

    Wobbie has the maturity of a 5 year old.

  500. Tina says:

    Only drats are concerned about advisors to campaigns. Obody cares about them.

    The jebot called kac a meth user during the election.

  501. jason says:

    Sadly, Jason has made it his objective here to oppose anything and everything I write.”

    I am deeply hurt myself.

    I agree with Wobbie every time he admits he is wrong.

    I just can’t catch a break.

  502. Tina says:

    Kac win was historical. Bannon helped. Bannon may or may not fet canned. The secret sources are always unnamed. Always.

  503. jason says:

    Let’s face it, Wobbie hates Conway and Bannon because he seems them instrumental in Trump’s win.

    Like I said, transparent like a pane of glass.

  504. jason says:

    Sees them.

  505. jason says:

    Bannon might feel like his advice is not being heeded and bow out. Or he might accept a reduced role.

    If that happens, so what? Happens all the time.

  506. PresidentPaul! says:

    Bannon going after McMaster who is pushing for “tens of thousands” of U.S. ground troops for Syria and Iraq to finish off ISIS.

    ” Meanwhile, White House senior strategist Stephen Bannon has derided McMaster to his colleagues as trying to start a new Iraq War, according to these sources.”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/13/report-mcmaster-pushing-tens-thousands-u-s-ground-troops-syria-iraq-finish-off-isis

    Basically if Trump gets invovled in Syria its his problem not the Americans peoples problem much like Bush who was abandoned by his voters and who destroyed the GOP in 2006 and 2008.

  507. Chicon says:

    When we look back on this time period in a year or two, when will be the day it becomes clear the MSM meme about Trump being a Russian stooge was garbage.

  508. jason says:

    Poor Bunu… I told you would be disappointed…

  509. Walt says:

    “jason says:
    April 13, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    Walt, why don’t you run against Manchin?”

    How many reasons do you want?
    *********************************************
    1. 90% of people in WV know who Manchin is;
    and maybe 2% know who Walt is, and maybe 1.2 of them would vote for Manchin instead of me.

    2. I do not have, nor do I want to raise and spend $15 MM.

    3. I dislike campaigning in a single delegate district of 18,000 population. I would abhor a statewide campaign where it takes 7 hours to get from N to S and 7 hours to get from E to W extremities.

    4. There are other Rs willing to run against Manchin who are far better known in WV, have deeper pockets, have won statewide offices, and who actually like campaigning.

    5. I still have my sanity (sort of)

    6. skeletons…like the archives of HHR that are out there…

    I can give you reasons 7 through 1295 tomorrow….

  510. hanjian says:

    ???????????????????

  511. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Here is Nate Cohn’s daily update in the GA CD-6 House election Today is the last day of Early voting.
    Replying to @Nate_Cohn
    Day 15 in GA-6! R 51, D 32
    Over all, D 42-R 41 with 46494 ballots cast.
    GOP poised to take edge tmro, though still underperforming

    Dem. Early Votes(42%)- 19,528
    GOP Early Votes(41%)- 19,063
    Indies & Others(17%)- 7,903

  512. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt is being modest. At least 3% of West Virginians know him. When you have lived somewhere since before the Native Americans arrived, people get to know you.

  513. NYCmike says:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/446748/trumps-moab-drop-triggered-tweet-you-need-read

    -MD must not approve of this either, especially the statement from Trump himself.

  514. PresidentPaul! says:

    Teens are becoming transgender because it’s trendy, expert says

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/govt-provides-gender-service-for-kids-who-fancy-themselves-as-transgender


    Psychiatrist Stephen Stathis, who runs the gender clinic at Brisbane’s Lady Cilento Children’s Hospital and is responsible for diagnosing gender dysphoria, reports that “many” youth are “trying out being transgender” in order to stand out.

    Apparently, declaring oneself “transgender” is trendy. “One said to me, ‘Doctor Steve … I want to be transgender, it’s the new black,’” Stathis related.

    Dr. Stathis also says many girls want to be transgender as a result of sexual abuse. “The girls say, ‘If only I had been a male, I wouldn’t have been abused,’” Stathis explained.

    Some are so convinced their life would be better if they were the opposite sex that they do something drastic or permanent. “I’ve seen genital mutilation, some who try to cut off their penis,’’ Stathis said.”

  515. Robbie says:

    Friends of Steve Bannon talk on the record about how he might go about gaining revenge on Trump if he gets fired.

    Yeah, this definitely sounds like the kind of guy we should want helping set the strategy of the American government.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/donald-trump-steve-bannon-breitbart-215026

  516. NYCmike says:

    LOL!

  517. PresidentPaul! says:

    #535
    Bannon won’t be able to get his revenge unless Trump gets involved with another Iraq occupation or prolonged Syria occupation.

    Then it’s GWB all over again.

  518. Chicon says:

    Some continue to desire to make Trump look like Jeb!, rather than the guy that won. Jeb! was not chosen by the people – Trump was. Those that voted for the winner deserve the guy that won, rather than the pilot’s bff.

  519. jason says:

    like the archives of HHR that are out there…”

    No problem, just say Cash Cow posted all that st-ff…..

  520. NYCmike says:

    That Politico article on Bannon could make for a great screenplay!

  521. jason says:

    Walt you can raise a lot of money.

    I will personally commit to $1000 plus I will campaign for you.

    Bitter can probably kick in $10000 and will be on call election day/night to file whatever motions and injunctions needed.

    Yes, NYC will support a deadender against you in the primary, but look, nothing is easy.

  522. Chicon says:

    Walt will need to decide if he will accept Bunu cash.

  523. jason says:

    So Wobbie laps up Politico trash piece on how “friends of Bannon” speculate on how he “might” seek revenge “if” he is fired, and concludes “this is not the person you want advising the President.

    No garbage stinks too much for Wobbie.

  524. jason says:

    Walt will need to decide if he will accept Bunu cash.”

    The infighting begins.

    If Walt accepts Bunu cash (I know, his parent’s cash) I will ask for my $1000 back.

  525. jason says:

    Sadly, Jason has made it his objective here to oppose anything and everything I write.”

    Even this is wrong.

    Wobbie doesn’t actually write anything. He never had an original thought…it’s all regurgitation of MSM group think he repeats here.

    I oppose most MSM group think.

    Ergo….

  526. NYCmike says:

    “I oppose most MSM group think.”

    -But he soaks up promotional material propaganda…

  527. EML says:

    The OpinionSavvy GA-06 poll is out:

    Ossoff (D) 41.5%
    Handel (R) 21.2%
    Hill (R) 11.3%
    Gray (R) 10.6%
    Moody (R) 9.4%

    Runoff:
    Handel (R) 42.1%
    Ossoff (R) 44.1%

    Gray (R) 44.9%
    Ossoff (D) 46.3%

    Hill (R) 44.4%
    Ossoff (D) 46.6%

    Moody (R) 47.6%
    Ossoff (D) 45.3%

    http://opinionsavvy.com/2017/04/14/ga6poll414/

  528. Robbie says:

    It looks like Jason found time to put down his life size blow up doll of Rubio so he could defend self proclaimed Leninist Steve Bannon.

  529. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    April 14, 2017 at 11:43 am
    Some continue to desire to make Trump look like Jeb!, rather than the guy that won. Jeb! was not chosen by the people – Trump was. Those that voted for the winner deserve the guy that won, rather than the pilot’s bff.

    – It’s not about looking like Jeb. Although, I’d note it’s the banshees like Ingraham and Coulter who are pushing this ridiculous idea.

    It’s about Trump surrounding himself with a competent White House staff so he isn’t continually stepping all over himself.

    Isn’t it interesting that just as Bannon’s hard edged tactics got sidelined, Trump started to see some sense of functionality with his staff. I think not.

  530. Chicon says:

    Robbie – you are constantly writing that Trump needs to be more conventional (off twitter, more presidential, etc.). He ran as unconventional and won. Now you suggest that he needs to act conventional. Why shouldn’t he act just like the guy who got elected? I was not a big fan of his during the election, but the people should get who they elected.

  531. Trump says:

    Jeb coc-sucker Robbie, you see lots to f things that are not there.

    Retard.

  532. Chicon says:

    548 – is the Rubio doll made by the same manufacturer as your JEB! doll?

  533. JC says:

    OT

    Does anyone know what’s up with the status of Race42016? Used to be my favorite site.

  534. NYCmike says:

    “status of Race42016?”

    -Trump won, JEB! is still on the track.

  535. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    It appears that another California-based,Obama appointed Judge is going to screw the President. The first two Judges decided, with the travel ban, that National Security rests with the Courts. This Judge wants to allow State and local governments to decide,with impunity, which federal laws they can and cannot follow.
    The “soft coup” of the Obama-appointed Judges continues!

    California judge questions Trump’s sanctuary city order

  536. jason says:

    You can always tell when Wobbie loses an argument….

    He attacks Rubio.

  537. jason says:

    he could defend self proclaimed Leninist Steve Bannon”

    Poor Wobbie… upset Bannon is more relevant than Jeb!

    But don’t feel bad, almost everyone is….

  538. Walt says:

    I have no time to post all the rest of reasons why it would not be good for me to run against Manchin.

    Too many things to I have to do…

    Plus, I think Cash Cow has much better shot against Manchin…

    –lots more time on her hands to devote to campaign
    –everyone loves a cute cow
    –lots of catchy slogans could be dreamed up
    –Cash Cow locks up the farmers votes, and the milk drinking bloc
    –everyone would notice her sitting on the the top of the backseat of a convertible during parades

  539. Wes says:

    If Walt got a commitment of one vote from every person he’s met since he first saw us evolve from our austrolopithecine ancestors, he’d beat Manchin in a landslide.

  540. Robbie says:

    If true, this is a surprise. CNN reports top Republicans are now not sold on Cramer in ND because of his penchant for “Akin-like” comments and are trying to woo a self funder.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/politics/kevin-cramer-north-dakota-senate/index.html

  541. Tina says:

    Full of schiff needs to step down as committee head due to an ethics complaint.

  542. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 14, 2017 at 3:47 pm
    he could defend self proclaimed Leninist Steve Bannon”
    Poor Wobbie… upset Bannon is more relevant than Jeb!
    But don’t feel bad, almost everyone is….

    – What’s sad is you’re defending Steve Bannon, who describes himself as a Leninist, simply because I think it would be far better for Trump if he moved him out of the White House.

  543. Tina says:

    Anyone one advocating for trump to be off twitter should bury itslef under a rock. Worst advice evah.

  544. Wes says:

    I have a hard time believing that. Cramer beat Sinner, Jr., decisively with Heitkamp doing all in her power to beat him and won reelection last year by 42 points. That doesn’t strike me as a new Akin.

  545. Tina says:

    Unnnamed sources uh unnamed friends

    Same old sheot.

  546. Tina says:

    What is trumps approval today?

    Please give the rounded down number.

  547. Cash Cow TM says:

    sanctuary city

    as a tiny cry cuts
    scary Tina cut u.
    U cacti sty yarn
    Y can’t scrutiny
    itsy AC truancy

  548. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    April 14, 2017 at 1:19 pm
    Robbie – you are constantly writing that Trump needs to be more conventional (off twitter, more presidential, etc.). He ran as unconventional and won. Now you suggest that he needs to act conventional. Why shouldn’t he act just like the guy who got elected? I was not a big fan of his during the election, but the people should get who they elected.

    – He and his White House can operate in a more conventional manner while continuing to push what many see as unconventional policies for a Republican candidate. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    If Trump’s unconventional style (wild tweets, barking constantly at the media, focus on side issues like 3-5 million illegal voters) is so popular with Americans, why does his approval rating hover around 40% in the RCP average?

    Trump got elected, in large part, because voters believed he would get things done. He successfully sold the voters on the image he was a boardroom negotiator who could get results. And it’s that last word that’s the key: results. His voters and all voters want tangible action.

    I think Trump now recognizes that what worked for him in the campaign doesn’t translate into governing. As a loyal person, he brought his campaign staff with him to the White House, but it seems pretty evident none of them were ready, or in some cases, even interested, in making the machinery of government function.

    He can still push for the wall, tax reform, Obamacare repeal, and a larger military (his core campaign issues) without lobbing hand grenades at those he needs to achieve results.

  549. Barrett says:

    Scary Tina Cut U

    …Tina, how do you feel about this?

  550. Barrett says:

    51 Disapprove, 43 approve. Got a little bit of a bump after showing decisiveness.

  551. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 14, 2017 at 4:32 pm
    Anyone one advocating for trump to be off twitter should bury itslef under a rock. Worst advice evah.

    – Trump made his wiretapping claim on March 4. On March 5, his approval rating in the RCP average was 45.0%. Over the next month as the fallout from that tweet continued, his job approval rating in RCP went straight down to 39.8% on April 4, one month after he leveled the wiretapping charge.

    Trump’s job approval average in RCP stands today at 41.4%.

  552. Trump says:

    Fu$k off, retarded monkey Robbie.

    Trump is not your president.

  553. Trump says:

    Has Obama returned from his exile yet?

  554. Trump says:

    Hey Robbie the dumb-fuc$ing as$hole,

    Read and weep:

    “Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.

    GCHQ first became aware in late 2015… This intelligence was passed to the US…”

    Every bit of tweet from Trump, and every bit of info from judge napolitano, is proven to be correct.

    And all because of trump tweeting.

    No wonder the hateful as$wipe Robbie can’t stand it.

  555. Chicon says:

    Tina, haven’t heard more about Lerner being charged. Did you get duped again?

  556. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If you believe the polls, then you must also believe your current president is named Hillary Clinton.

  557. NYCmike says:

    Bannon is a Lennonist?

    What does he have against McCartney, Harrison, and Starr?

  558. NYCmike says:

    “If you believe the polls, then you must also believe your current president is named Hillary Clinton.”

    -I heard when Trump does his “gold en showers with Melania, that they role-play as well, so………

  559. Tina says:

    How did i get duped. It is one house member. We shall see. Stupid comment.

  560. Tina says:

    574, lol. Utter stupidity.

  561. Tina says:

    Jebot, if bannon does not go, who is kos targeting next?

    I think it should be Ivanka.

  562. pitchaboy says:

    Almost everything DJT tweeted will turn out to be true. When all is said and done it will be shown that British intelligence was intercepting DJT’s team, Obummer’s minions ordered DJT’s team surveillance and so on. Of course, Robbie and gang will say that Obama’s minions did it without O’s knowledge. This Russia crap is about to backfire big time on the Ds.

  563. messy says:

    A nomenclature update: Apparently there was a short hot war in 1966 or so, that was called Korean War II, so Abu Ivanka’s latest escapade will be called “Korean War III.”

  564. Robbie says:

    andysere? @andysere 2h
    2 hours ago

    More
    BIG RETIREMENT WATCH: Manchin raises only 550k in Q1 – well under half of what the next-lowest haul was for any vulnerable incumbent

  565. Chicon says:

    588 – I was told size does not matter.

  566. Phil says:

    Big if but if Manchin doesn’t run that seat is absolutely a Republican lock. Can’t see him not running, however unless he wants to be governor again. There will be enormous pressure for him to run again from Schumer and company. They know the seat is gone without him.

  567. Trump says:

    Not a given. Didn’t Justice, a democrat, win the governorship on the same day that Trump won the presidential race by 42 points?

  568. Chicon says:

    Has the war started yet?

  569. Cash Cow TM says:

    Phil,

    I think Manchin enjoyed being governor more than being U.S/ senator.

    Big fish in little pond vs. nothingburger in big pond.

    As governor, he liked to be hands on and have his finger stuck in everything. Appoint wife to State school board…Appoint cousin to run School Building Authority…had a big majority D House and Senate…teacher unions and labor unions solidly in his corner…undisputed star of the Ds in WV…good economic times with year end surpluses of $300-$400MM dollars.
    *******************************************
    But why would he want to come back to run for governor again?
    _____________________________________________
    –State House and Senate legislative bodies both firmly in R control.
    –Most of the state wide elected state officers (SOS, Auditor, AG, Comm. of Agri.) He would serve with on Board of Governors are Rs now instead of all Ds–except for Treasurer.
    –state facing $500M deficit for FY2018 and projection of out years not good either.

    I do not think he will leave SEnate to run for Governor, but who knows in this cock-a-mam-mie world in which we now live.

  570. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV governor 2016 race results

    Jim Justice (D) 348,071 49.1%
    Bill Cole (R) 300,141 42.3%
    plus
    Charlotte Pritt (Mountain Pty) 41,706 5.9
    David Moran (Libertarian) 15,205 2.1
    Phil Hudok (Constitution) 4,007 0.6

  571. Cash Cow TM says:

    I look for either Congressman Evan Jenkins or WV AG Patrick Morissey to run against Manchin.

  572. jason says:

    A balanced take on Bannon by Peggy Noonan at the WSJ.

    Wobbie to claim Peggy Noonan and the WSJ are alt-right in 3, 2, 1….

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/steve-bannon-may-have-something-to-offer-1492126592

  573. Tina says:

    Bannon is good at going on the offensive, you have to hit back twice as hard. You can not go limp like w.

  574. janz says:

    #585. True about UK’s intelligence – or so it seems. What a complex web it is globally!

  575. Bitterlaw says:

    DC

  576. Trump says:

    It is not complex, actually.

    All the power players, globally and in the US, thought Hillary was going to win, and they wanted to be in the good books. The corrupt and traitorous Hillary and the Obama admin had totally sold out america’s interests to whoever ponied up.

    The truly remarkable thinking is, after all this effort, all they could find on Trump was a decades old tape and a two-decades old tax return.

    The strength of the Trump candidacy was the enemies it took on and defeated: the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Western and middle eastern governments, the US and global media, the global finance conglomerate, the global business conglomerate, the 1bn plus Hillary campaign and even more outside money.

    With nothing more than a Twitter account and a campaign plane to counter all that.

  577. Trump says:

    As it turns out, Trump was right again. And again. And again. And again…

  578. Chicon says:

    602 – Trump the poster, or Trump the Prez?

  579. jason says:

    Trying to secure a Condor egg for the traditional Condor egg hunt but they are hard to come by.

    Fortunately there are plenty of llamas available for the Easter roast.

  580. jason says:

    I invited all the La Raza pimps in my area to the celebration but the best I could do is some dude who says his cousin in LA is a member of La Raza and another who swears he knows a pimp in NYC.

  581. jason says:

    Soccer Moron actually wrote a cogent, well reasoned post in 601 that didn’t involve bodily functions or fluids, sucking, puking, or “retard”, “pimp”, “asswipe” or in fact any insults/profanity at all.

    It was bound to happen one day, I know, but its still a shocker.

  582. Trump says:

    Another set of content-free verbal diarrhea from the la raza pimp.

    So what’s new?

  583. NYCmike says:

    “another who swears he knows a pimp in NYC.”

    -I swear, the name in that book is a DIFFERENT NYCmike!

  584. NYCmike says:

    Looks like jason and “Trump” are warming up to each other…..

    Another TRUMP miracle!

  585. jason says:

    Has Obama returned from his exile yet?”

    I do give Obama credit, he has generally kept his mouth shut and not piled on Trump.

    I don’t know if he is doing this because he wants to honor the “one President at a time” tradition or whether he knows if he does interviews he might get surveillance questions.

  586. NYCmike says:

    All TRUMP has to do now is bring back MD, Author, “CG”, and Cory (anyone else?)……..

  587. Trump says:

    “Swearing is Actually a Sign of More Intelligence” -sciencealert.com

    They are damn right.

    The science is settled.

  588. jason says:

    Looks like jason and “Trump” are warming up to each other….”

    Don’t get carried away, you know about “lightning not striking the same place twice” thing….

  589. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    DEFINITELY the latter choice.

    He had already said a few things, and had made public appearances, on Branson’s island and in DC, with Michelle……then dropped out of sight.

  590. NYCmike says:

    “Don’t get carried away, you know about “lightning not striking the same place twice” thing….”

    -That is why I rent instead of own.

  591. jason says:

    “Another set of content-free verbal diarrhea from the la raza pimp.”

    Now THAT’s the soccer moron we know….

    At least one bodily function reference…we are back to normal.

  592. Trump says:

    Keep your head down, pimp.

    The ice man comets.

  593. Trump says:

    Cometh

  594. Trump says:

    If the shoe fits, wear it.

  595. jason says:

    ou know about “lightning not striking the same place twice” thing….”

    -That is why I rent instead of own.”

    I wish I hadn’t killed so many brain cells last night at Good Friday Happy Hour so I could understand that.

  596. Wobbles says:

    “Stop Donald Trump in GA special election”

    I didn’t even know he was running……

    I don’t think this is legal, it’s probably something Bannon suggested.

  597. NYCmike says:

    Duh…..said it backwards……another reason to own instead of rent….should be working….

  598. NYCmike says:

    “If the shoe fits, wear it.”

    -I’d like to meet the people who wear shoes that DON’T fit…..

  599. Wobbles says:

    Keep your head down, pimp.

    The ice man comets.”

    You wrote an insult free post, so yes, a comet strike is possible. Or meteor.

    I AM worried, 99.99% of meteor strikes are in rural areas.

  600. NYCmike says:

    Cheers.

  601. jason says:

    I didn’t know Wobbles lived in a rural area too…

    But it stands to reason, 99.99% of crop duster flights are in rural areas.

  602. NYCmike says:

    “Wobbles” sounds like someone…..two different people actually

  603. jason says:

    Duh…..said it backwards……another reason to own instead of rent….should be working….”

    Thank God, it wasn’t the dirty martinis…

    What were YOU drinking?

  604. Trump says:

    It’s called “branding”, la raza pimp.

    Remember “low-energy”.

  605. jason says:

    All TRUMP has to do now is bring back MD, Author, “CG”, and Cory (anyone else?)”

    Did Kommie Kory say goodbye?

  606. Waingro says:

    Mitchie should just try and get Manchin to flip or at least go Indy and agree to caucus with GOP. I would take that tradeoff versus putting up a tough race against him.

  607. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Replying to @Nate_Cohn
    The GA-6 in-person early vote is done.
    Today: D 35, R 43
    Over all: D 41.1, R 40.8 with 54817 votes counted.

    The GOP vote has caught the Dem. vote in this Tuesday’s GA CD-6 race. Other than a few absentee ballots, early voting is now closed.

  608. Phil says:

    Manchin is the same guy who continued to praise and support Hillary even after she vowed to eliminate coal jobs. If he didn’t cease caucusing with Schumer and company after that he won’t ever do it. He can’t help himself.

  609. Wes says:

    Mike, if you’re planning to stop seeing movies Sam Jackson is in, you’ll be down to maybe a movie a year for the foreseeable future.

  610. Wes says:

    Manchin is a loyal Dem. He has no intention of becoming a Republican. Fortunately his fundraising haul is low, suggesting he may be unprepared to face a serious GOP in increasingly Republican West Virginia.

  611. Wes says:

    Jason, CCCP simply slithered away once his dream of a handy Hillary victory began fading on Election Night.

  612. jason says:

    Cory (Clinton 347 / Trump 191) says:
    November 7, 2016 at 1:44 pm
    The last round of polling coming in is definitely favourable to Hillary.
    She’s up over a 3 point lead now in the RCP 4-way.
    I think I can relax and just enjoy Trump’s long overdue destruction tomorrow, rather than worrying that he might win.”

  613. jason says:

    Some “CG” quotes…

    1. Corey says:
    November 7, 2016 at 2:41 pm
    “Trump will do better than Romney among white voters in PA guaranteed. He won 57%”
    Put some money on it.
    2. Corey says:
    November 7, 2016 at 3:09 pm
    485. I think Hillary will take Ohio by about 3 points.
    3. Corey says:
    November 7, 2016 at 3:43 pm
    Some of you are going to feel so embarrassed after the results come in.
    Better get prepped for the “rigged system” talking points.

  614. jason says:

    Ah yes, and this one from Wobbie..

    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:09 pm
    Just yesterday Jason was attacking me for suggesting Clinton might win Georgia.
    (((Harry Enten)))? Verified account ?
    ?@ForecasterEnten
    Per CBS News, the exits have Trump only +1 in GA. Not good for him.

  615. Wes says:

    For some reason, Georgia Democrats always seem to think black actors and rappers such as Ludacris and Sam Jackson will help get their vote out. That might be true, but the negative backlash among the GOP voters more than negates that.

    Notice Ludacris heavily injected himself into the GA Senate races in 2008 and 2014. Martin finished second in the first round in 2008 and lost by 14.8 points in the runoff. Nunn lost by the same 45-53 margin Obama had lost the state by in 2012.

    I expect Sam Jackson to have a similar negative effect on Ossoff’s chances now.

  616. jason says:

    The last post I can find that Kommie Kory wrote was

    Cory (Clinton 347 / Trump 191) says:
    November 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm
    Nervous.

  617. Wes says:

    CCCP was such a bitch even GF of all people called him an arsehole last year for his vicious attacks on Bitterlaw.

  618. Robbie says:

    When you hear the usual suspects (Rush, Levin, Ingraham) in conservative media claim Dina Powell is a liberal, don’t believe it for a second. She worked for Dick Armey in the 1990’s and also was part of Condi Rice’s Sate Department. On top of that, two of her most prominent backers are Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton. I don’t think either is a liberal, right?

    https://www.apnews.com/1a83f83c9e214984b9d01783dd3bc875

  619. Robbie says:

    Is “suggesting” something might happen the same as saying something “will” happen?

  620. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 14, 2017 at 11:56 pm
    A balanced take on Bannon by Peggy Noonan at the WSJ.
    Wobbie to claim Peggy Noonan and the WSJ are alt-right in 3, 2, 1….
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/steve-bannon-may-have-something-to-offer-1492126592

    – She has her opinion. I have my opinion. When she was critical of Romney’s 2012 campaign, you certainly didn’t have any use for her. I’m not going to argue in favor of someone who ran Breitbart, was the author of the botched travel ban, favors high tariffs, or describes himself as Leninist.

  621. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    April 15, 2017 at 9:47 am
    Keep your head down, pimp.
    The ice man comets.”
    You wrote an insult free post, so yes, a comet strike is possible. Or meteor.
    I AM worried, 99.99% of meteor strikes are in rural areas.

    – Looks like Jason forgot to switch back from his parody screen name.

  622. NYCmike says:

    “was the author of the botched travel ban”

    -The original one, or the one that is STILL NOT IN USE?

    You keep describing as the first ban as “botched”. HOW SO?

    The second one, written by lawyers, admin officials, and whomever NOT NAMED BANNON, was treated the SAME EXACT WAY by activist/leftist (redundant?) judges.

  623. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    🙂

    Good point about Jackson earlier.

  624. NYCmike says:

    Cory (Clinton 347 / Trump 191) says:
    November 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm
    Nervous.

    -Delicious!

  625. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t think that I received enough credit for being the reason Cory left. After I said that I had voted for Trump he completely lost it.

  626. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is serving llama? Seems cold considering his dating history.

  627. Bitterlaw says:

    152 years ago today, Abraham Lincoln died.

    105 years ago, Titanic sinks and 1503 died.

    Where was Walt?

  628. NYCmike says:

    “She added, “We need to allow each person to define his or her own achievements instead of assuming competence or incompetence based on race.””

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/devos-civil-rights-pick-once-claimed-anti-white-bias-report/ar-BBzR4J4?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

  629. NYCmike says:

    Trying to figure out why any individual, whether of a minority group or the much-more-entitled-white race (this is sarcasm!), would NOT want to be defined by their own achievements, as opposed to being defined by race, or some other personal characteristic.

  630. chicon says:

    654 – Is the anniversary of Lincoln’s death a holiday in the south?

  631. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.infowars.com/video-maine-democrats-laugh-about-rising-suicide-rates-among-white-males

    Former Maine senatorial candidate Richard Fochtmann was filmed celebrating rising suicide rates among white males at a recent event hosted by the Maine Democratic Party.

    (because they voted Trump they should suicide)

  632. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    According to a Politico article, Tillerson is emerging as a key figure in the Trump administration. This is welcome news.

    “The 65-year-old self-made Texas oilman has become one of Trump’s most frequent White House guests, often joining him in the residence for one-on-one dinners, or in the presidential dining room, along with Vice President Mike Pence, for lunch.

    In Trump’s 83 days as president, Tillerson has had more meetings with the president than any other cabinet secretary, according to multiple White House aides and a review of public schedules. When Tillerson isn’t traveling abroad, the two men schedule a private dinner at least once a week.”

  633. jason says:

    The travel ban, both version 1 and 2, were entirely within the scope of the President’s powers.

    “Botched” was used because the liberals went court shopping for a liberal court to shoot it down.

    But be it as it may, it was “fixed up” and re-submitted.

    Liberal courts still shooting it down.

    In other words, it had nothing to do with the wording…..nothing, nada, zilch.

    But Wobbie is still eating up the MSM BS as usual.

  634. jason says:

    Robbie says:
    April 15, 2017 at 11:45 am

    Is “suggesting” something might happen the same as saying something “will” happen?”

    In your case, always.

  635. jason says:

    ? Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm
    Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.”

    Yeah, I think you are saying Hillary won.

  636. Robbie says:

    Botched as in Bannon rushed the order to Trump’s desk before he had an Attorney General in place who could oversee the drafting process. Botched as in Bannon refused to address the green card issue even though he was made aware it could be an issue. Botched as in the public reaction to the order that sparked needless protests at airports across the country. Botched as in the poorly constructed document that allowed liberal judges to overrule the order even though the concept was well within presidential prerogatives. Botched as in a concept that polled 50-40 in favor before implementation polled at 50-40 against after implementation.

    But yeah, let’s all defend a self described Leninist simply because the media doesn’t like him. Sometimes, the media doesn’t like a person because the person is not worth liking.

  637. jason says:

    ? Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:18 pm
    Lord Ashcroft ?@LordAshcroft · 41m41 minutes ago
    Pennsylvania Clinton +5. Arizona Trump +3. Colorado Clinton +6. Michigan Clinton +5. Wisconsin. Clinton +6. Iowa Trump +3″

    While at this point most of us were following the raw voted totals already coming in, Wobbie was following Lord Ashcroft.

  638. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 2:44 pm
    ? Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm
    Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.”
    Yeah, I think you are saying Hillary won.

    – I posted the exits and wrote they suggested a Clinton win. Deal with it.

  639. jason says:

    So moron, the second version isn’t “botched” and the liberal judges are still issuing stays.

    So it had nothing to do with being “rushed”.

    It had nothing to do with the wording.

    It has 100% to do with liberal judges and liberal media.

    You must have been a great admirer of Pravda.

  640. jason says:

    “I posted the exits and wrote they suggested a Clinton win. Deal with it.”

    LOL

    Is “suggesting” something might happen the same as saying something “will” happen?”

    In your case, always.”

  641. jason says:

    “Sometimes, the media doesn’t like a person because the person is not worth liking.”

    Really?

    Is that why there is not one conservative they like and one liberal they don’t like?

  642. Tina says:

    What is lord ashpot? Sounds like the daily kos tip sheet.

  643. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 2:48 pm
    ? Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:18 pm
    Lord Ashcroft ?@LordAshcroft · 41m41 minutes ago
    Pennsylvania Clinton +5. Arizona Trump +3. Colorado Clinton +6. Michigan Clinton +5. Wisconsin. Clinton +6. Iowa Trump +3?
    While at this point most of us were following the raw voted totals already coming in, Wobbie was following Lord Ashcroft.

    – Yes, how dare I post information about states which had not closed, when I could try and extrapolate from KY and IN.

    I guarantee you no one would have had a problem with those exits had they shown Trump winning.

  644. Tina says:

    The maga bomb has weakend isis.

  645. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 15, 2017 at 2:55 pm
    What is lord ashpot? Sounds like the daily kos tip sheet

    – Bless you heart.

    Michael Anthony P. Ashcroft, Baron Ashcroft, KCMG, PC (born 4 March 1946) is a businessman and politician. He is a former deputy chairman of the Conservative Party. Ashcroft founded Michael A. Ashcroft Associates in 1972 and[2][3] is the 74th richest person in the UK, as ranked by the Sunday Times Rich List 2015, with an estimated fortune of £1.32 billion.[4]
    He sat on the Conservative benches of the House of Lords until 2015, having been ennobled as a life peer in 2000. His peerage was controversial due to his status as tax exile.[5] The Cabinet Office stated that he would take up permanent residence in the UK for tax purposes,[5][6] however it was revealed a decade later that he had not done so.[7][8]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ashcroft

  646. NYCmike says:

    Learn something new every day:

    “botched” = if Bannon did it and it does not go into effect.

    “perfect” = if anyone else does it and it DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT

  647. NYCmike says:

    “He is a former deputy chairman of the Conservative Party.”

    -And?

    Most Americans care about this guy as much as they care about Bannon.

  648. jason says:

    The MSM doesn’t like Bannon, Trump, Pence, Ivanka, Jared, Sessions Tillerson, DeVos, Mathis, Preibus, Spicer, Carson, Mnuchin, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Haley…

    I guess none of them are “worth liking”.

  649. Robbie says:

    As Jason well knows, it was the initial travel ban that created a PR fiasco for Trump. And since Trump doesn’t want bad PR, it was botched. Complain to the Leninist if you’ve got a problem.

  650. chicon says:

    670 – Yep, except you continued with the Hillary is gonna win meme, based on exit polls that have been flawed for years. You LOVE to tell us not to rely on this poll or that poll because of their inaccuracies, yet you were relying on exit polls that have been consistently wrong. Remember they were calling him President Kerry early in the day, based on exit polls?

    This was all pointed out to you on election night, and you simply ignored it. Just like a concern troll would do…..

  651. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Learn something new every day:
    “botched” = if Bannon did it and it does not go into effect.
    “perfect” = if anyone else does it and it DOES NOT GO INTO EFFECT

    – Botched = supporting Mourdock.

  652. chicon says:

    Robbie – you never answered whether Jason’s (I think you said it was Jason’s) Rubio doll was made by the same manufacturer of your JEB! doll.

  653. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm
    670 – Yep, except you continued with the Hillary is gonna win meme, based on exit polls that have been flawed for years. You LOVE to tell us not to rely on this poll or that poll because of their inaccuracies, yet you were relying on exit polls that have been consistently wrong. Remember they were calling him President Kerry early in the day, based on exit polls?
    This was all pointed out to you on election night, and you simply ignored it. Just like a concern troll would do…..

    – BS from HFC supporter.

  654. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm
    Robbie – you never answered whether Jason’s (I think you said it was Jason’s) Rubio doll was made by the same manufacturer of your JEB! doll.

    – I think it was made by the manufacturer of your Mark Meadows doll.

  655. jason says:

    Yes, how dare I post information about states which had not closed, when I could try and extrapolate from KY and IN.”

    Unfortunately your post was at 7:18 PM.

    Most of FL precincts closed at 7 PM.

    Ergo, you are a pathological liar.

  656. chicon says:

    680 – another substantive comeback from the King of the Concern Trolls! Sad.

  657. NYCmike says:

    “– Botched = supporting Mourdock.”
    “– BS from HFC supporter.”

    -Heh.

    Direct hits!

    When you can’t face the fact that you are WRONG and that you are “concern troll”, change the subject to something else……ANYTHING ELSE!

  658. NYCmike says:

    People/entities in politics that nobody knows, yet are Robbie’s favorites:

    Steve Bannon
    Dick Mourdock
    Lord Ashcroft (LOL)
    HFC
    Mark Meadows

  659. chicon says:

    Mike – he is a pretty good concern troll, though, don’t you think?

  660. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm
    The MSM doesn’t like Bannon, Trump, Pence, Ivanka, Jared, Sessions Tillerson, DeVos, Mathis, Preibus, Spicer, Carson, Mnuchin, Pompeo, Mulvaney, Haley…
    I guess none of them are “worth liking”.

    – Except most Republicans and conservatives outside of the alt-right don’t like Steve Bannon. The same cannot be said about the other people you mentioned.

    Again, why such defense for Steve Bannon
    when he’s not a conservative, spent his time at Breitbart going after genuine conservative Republicans, and plays to Trump’s worst instincts?

  661. NYCmike says:

    People/entities in politics that EVERYBODY knows, nobody likes, yet are Robbie’s favorites:

    JEB!2016

  662. jason says:

    “Michael Anthony P. Ashcroft, Baron Ashcroft, KCMG, PC (born 4 March 1946) is a businessman and politician. He is a former deputy chairman of the Conservative Party. Ashcroft founded Michael A. Ashcroft Associates in 1972 and[2][3] is the 74th richest person in the UK, as ranked by the Sunday Times Rich List 2015, with an estimated fortune of £1.32 billion”

    All very nice.

    Of course, who the f–k cares what he thinks about US elections.

    Oh wait…

  663. NYCmike says:

    “Again, why such defense for Steve Bannon”

    I’ll use Jason’s answer:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 2:51 pm
    So moron, the second version isn’t “botched” and the liberal judges are still issuing stays.
    So it had nothing to do with being “rushed”.
    It had nothing to do with the wording.
    It has 100% to do with liberal judges and liberal media.

  664. NYCmike says:

    Jason,

    Michael Anthony P PREFERS “LORD”….

  665. NYCmike says:

    “Mike – he is a pretty good concern troll, though, don’t you think?”

    -The BEST!

  666. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:10 pm
    “– Botched = supporting Mourdock.”
    “– BS from HFC supporter.”
    -Heh.
    Direct hits!
    When you can’t face the fact that you are WRONG and that you are “concern troll”, change the subject to something else……ANYTHING ELSE!

    – When will you admit supporting idiots like Richard Mourdock and Chris McDaniel were assinine ideas?

  667. jason says:

    Mike – he is a pretty good concern troll, though, don’t you think?”

    I disagree. He sucks as a concern troll because he is like transparent glass.

    Every comment is predictable. It’s all regurgitated from somewhere else, poor bastard cannot think of one thing for himself.

    Pathetic really. I’d feel sorry for him if I wasn’t an A-hole.

  668. jason says:

    That’s his M.O.

    Whenever he loses an argument with me, he attacks Rubio.

    I guess in NYC’s case, he brings up Mourdock.

    Zzzzzzz….

  669. Robbie says:

    Tinfoil Tina suggested Lord Ashcroft was a Daily Kos person. I guess that’s because Mike super semen Cernovich has never spoken about him.

    Anyway, Lord Ashcroft is a friend of Mitt Romney and Ashcroft spent the Fall of 2016 touring the election battleground states speaking to voters.

    He posted the first wave of exits polls and I posted them here. Had they been good for Trump, no one would’ve have batted an eye.

  670. NYCmike says:

    Big Dick Mourdock and Chris “I won’t Concede” McDaniel were terrible ideas.

    How’s that?

    Of course, the two of them, along with the incumbents who refused to do what McConnell, Roberts, McCain, etc did, deserve to share blame. A politician that loses touch with the people they represent DEFINITELY deserves blame.

  671. chicon says:

    695 – and with me the House Freedom Caucus, because I said the moderates, Ryan, and Trump shared the blame with the HFC on the health care issue.

  672. NYCmike says:

    Too much of this agreeing with Jason is freaking me out……I feel dirty…..I guess I will have to go to the 4 hour Easter Vigil tonight.

  673. NYCmike says:

    DCC

  674. NYCmike says:

    Imagine that, SHARING the blame…….what a novel idea?!?

  675. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm
    That’s his M.O.
    Whenever he loses an argument with me, he attacks Rubio.
    I guess in NYC’s case, he brings up Mourdock.
    Zzzzzzz….

    – I guess it’s kind of like the way you reflexively post Jeb when you don’t certain comments of mine.

  676. NYCmike says:

    HE SAID IT! YAY!

    “super semen”!

    OK, that is enough today!

    Cheers!

  677. chicon says:

    Robbie – any dolt knows that exit polls are highly flawed and have been for years. You relied on them anyway because you were so excited and hopeful that Trump would lose.

  678. NYCmike says:

    The part about the healthcare letdown that I find the most interesting – Trump shrugged at that “defeat”, as Robbie would call it, backed up for a couple of days, then went back at it.

    Now, the more you hear, the HFC is working with Trump and the Senate and other House members to get something done.

  679. NYCmike says:

    Cheers. Be well.

  680. jason says:

    And btw, Bannon does not own up to the “Leninist” statement, and this article researched it and came up with no evidence he ever said.

    In any event, even in the context in which it was purportedly said the whole alleged quote implies he wanted to “destroy the establishment” as Lenin did.

    There is nothing to suggest Bannon is a Leninist in the communist dogma sense, just like there is no evidence he is a “white supremacist”.

    Again, Bannon was not my choice for chief strategist and I don’t agree with a lot of his views, especially foreign policy.

    But fair is fair, like Peggy Noonan says, he deserves to be judged on reality, not Trumped up (pun intended) MSM BS.

  681. Wes says:

    According to Sarah Palin and the Tea Partyers, Chicon, the exit poll showing Coons beating Castle by one point seven weeks after Castle had lost the primary to O’Donnell was the most accurate exit poll and history and showed definitively Castle would have had no chance of winning the seat even had the DEGOP decided not to commit mass electoral suicide by nominating fools such as O’Donnell and Urquhart for Congress.

  682. Walt says:

    Friggin federal and state taxes….
    ############################################
    They will not let me claim Cash Cow as a deduction.

    &%#)^%!
    ________________________________________________
    If “taxes are what you pay for civilization” then I am far more civilized than I want to be.

  683. Robbie says:

    Steve Bannon is not a conservative, has overseen issues that have lead to loads of bad PR for Trump, and made his name known by attacking quality conservative Republicans because they didn’t subscribe to his high tariff, anti-immigration viewpoint. But by all means, let’s go to the mattresses defending someone like that just because the MSM doesn’t like him.

    The sooner Bannon is completely out of the decision making process, the sooner Trump’s White House will begin to succeed and see his poll numbers will rise.

  684. Wes says:

    Maybe you shouldn’t have started the ball of civilization rolling by founding Catal Huyuk all those millennia ago, Walt.

    Ever think of that?

  685. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “World’s oldest person dies at 117…”
    ************************************************
    Walt said he used to date her great-great-great-great-great grandmother.

  686. Cash Cow TM says:

    After a lag of a week,
    Walt caught another vole today.
    ##############################################
    #13 if anyone is counting…

  687. jason says:

    He posted the first wave of exits polls and I posted them here. Had they been good for Trump, no one would’ve have batted an eye.”

    We should take a poll here and ask if you would have posted any exits favorable to Trump.

  688. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:23 pm
    Robbie – any dolt knows that exit polls are highly flawed and have been for years. You relied on them anyway because you were so excited and hopeful that Trump would lose.

    – Total BS from you. Absolute, total BS.

    First, the exits polls were very much on the money in 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014. They were not good in 2016, but, by all means, continue to rewrite history.

    Second, I posted the exit polls because they were news, it was election night, and this is a site that focuses on polling.

    I didn’t post them because I was excited they showed Clinton doing well. I sure as heck didn’t want to see Clinto win and wrote that regularlyy, but, again, continue to rewrite history.

  689. chicon says:

    709 – What does that have to do with the exit polling of a national election with 50 separate state elections?

  690. Wes says:

    Are you some kind of bigot against voles, Walt?

    What did those little rat-looking things ever do to uou?

  691. jason says:

    ut by all means, let’s go to the mattresses defending someone like that just because the MSM doesn’t like him.”

    LOL, Wobbie is really a lying clown.

    “Again, Bannon was not my choice for chief strategist and I don’t agree with a lot of his views, especially foreign policy.”

    Sounds like I am really “going to the mattress” for Bannon.

  692. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:34 pm
    He posted the first wave of exits polls and I posted them here. Had they been good for Trump, no one would’ve have batted an eye.”
    We should take a poll here and ask if you would have posted any exits favorable to Trump.

    – I vote yes. I would have. It was election night. If you don’t like the way the exit polls were done, complain to the people who did the exit polls.

  693. Tina says:

    Strve bannon is more conservative than hou are. You are obsessed over him. Why? He is just an advisor who serves at the priviledge of thr president.

  694. Wes says:

    Call it a joke, Chicon. You were pointing out how inaccurate exit polls can be while I was mentioning a time when a certain group of people in politics declared them infallible for their own purpose.s

  695. jason says:

    First, the exits polls were very much on the money in 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014.”

    LOL

    Wobbie conveniently leaves out 2004, “Let me be the first to call you Mr. President”

    I guess it didn’t fit the narrative when you are that intellectually dishonest.

  696. Tina says:

    Travel ban concerns and concerns about bannon,

    Kos tip sheet.

  697. chicon says:

    716 – are you talking about the complete exit polls, or the early exit polls released early in the day, well before the polls close? The latter are mere guesswork.

  698. jason says:

    I vote yes. I would have.”

    Just like you only link to ant-Trump MSM garbage?

    Okayyy… I believe it.

  699. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:36 pm
    ut by all means, let’s go to the mattresses defending someone like that just because the MSM doesn’t like him.”
    LOL, Wobbie is really a lying clown.
    “Again, Bannon was not my choice for chief strategist and I don’t agree with a lot of his views, especially foreign policy.”
    Sounds like I am really “going to the mattress”
    for Bannon.

    – You’re attacking me for attacking a guy you don’t like. Either you aren’t being honest about how you feel about Bannon, or you’re being your usual contrary self and just arguing the opposite position to me.

  700. chicon says:

    722- gotcha, Wes. Sorry for the confusion.

  701. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:40 pm
    716 – are you talking about the complete exit polls, or the early exit polls released early in the day, well before the polls close? The latter are mere guesswork.

    – I posted the information that came from Lord Ashcroft’s Twitter feed. They were, as I understood it, the second wave of data that was released at 7 PM. It didn’t include the third (final) wave, but there is often not much change. The 2016 final exit data was just as wrong as the first two waves. But from 2006 until 2014, they were very good.

  702. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    Strve bannon is more conservative than hou are. You are obsessed over him. Why? He is just an advisor who serves at the priviledge of thr president.

    – The problem with Tinfoil Tina is we can’t even agree on what the definition of conservative is. She thinks alt right is conservative when it’s not. It’s populism and nationalism. That’s who Steve Bannon is.

  703. jason says:

    You’re attacking me for attacking a guy you don’t like. ”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    No, I am attacking you for buying into the MSM narrative on Bannon.

    If you want to state specific policies you disagree with Bannon, fine.

    Parroting the partisan, over the top, inaccurate, character assassination BS typical of the MSM, no.

  704. jason says:

    I am sure Wobbie would have posted a GA exit poll where Trump was well ahead.
    Doesn’t everybody?

    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:09 pm
    Just yesterday Jason was attacking me for suggesting Clinton might win Georgia.
    (((Harry Enten)))? Verified account ?
    ?@ForecasterEnten
    Per CBS News, the exits have Trump only +1 in GA. Not good for him.

  705. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:38 pm
    First, the exits polls were very much on the money in 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014.”
    LOL
    Wobbie conveniently leaves out 2004, “Let me be the first to call you Mr. President”
    I guess it didn’t fit the narrative when you are that intellectually dishonest.

    – Chicon said “any dolt knows exit polls are highly flawed and have been for years”. That’s not the case. For five straight national elections, they did a fine job. But nice try.

  706. Tina says:

    We do not care for bannon, he serves the president and can be let go or reassigned. But you are twubbled and concenred about him.

    Most rs would not know who he is.

  707. Tina says:

    Gosh, who had a worse 2016, cccp, corey, or kos.

  708. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    April 15, 2017 at 3:50 pm
    You’re attacking me for attacking a guy you don’t like. ”
    Zzzzzzz…..
    No, I am attacking you for buying into the MSM narrative on Bannon.
    If you want to state specific policies you disagree with Bannon, fine.
    Parroting the partisan, over the top, inaccurate, character assassination BS typical of the MSM, no.

    – I’m not buying into MSM spin. I knew who Breitbart and Steve Bannon were long ago and I never liked him, his views, or the tactics he employed.

    Did you like that he sent Julia Hahn, who now works for Bannon in the White House, to harass Ryan in Wisconsin for not sending his children to public school? Because that’s what Bannon did.

  709. Tina says:

    Zzzzz

    Youmate an idiot.

  710. Tina says:

    Tillerson seems to be one of trumos better cabinet picks

  711. jason says:

    Did you like that he sent Julia Hahn, who now works for Bannon in the White House, to harass Ryan in Wisconsin for not sending his children to public school? Because that’s what Bannon did.”

    Horrors…

    Ryan is a big boy and used to dealing with the press.

    That’s all you got?

  712. jason says:

    Gosh, who had a worse 2016, cccp, corey, or kos.”

    Wobbie.

    Still not over Jeb!, still looking for the real killer.

  713. jason says:

    I’m not buying into MSM spin.”

    LOL

    Fake post of the year?

  714. Cash Cow TM says:

    Wes,

    Voles eat flower and plant bulbs and plant roots.

    They will take little gnaw bites out of tomatoes, too.

    And I do not want them to destroy the roots of my blackberry and raspberry bushes.

  715. chicon says:

    BBC reports a missile launch by North Korea. Reports says the missile failed. This means some poor North Korean will now be fed to the pigs….

  716. wraith says:

    There are no pigs, they have alrwady been eaten.

  717. chicon says:

    Could be; but from the looks of him, the chief is eating pretty good!

  718. Trump says:

    All of the Jeb coc-sucker Robbie’s posts reconfirm the brain damage that Jeb’s as-pounding has done.

    The retarded monkey needs to take a break. He has been relentlessly wrong. On everything. It is remarkable somebody so out of touch with the real world can get out of bed in the morning.

  719. Trump says:

    At least Cory the Canuck had the self awareness to go kill himself.

  720. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn. I missed an evening of Trump calling people names and thinking it is analsis.

  721. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump to post “fake lawyer” in 3…2…zzzzzzzzzzz

  722. Trump says:

    The moron has never had an original thought.

    Tax and penalty, dumb as$.

    Figure it out someday.

  723. Trump says:

    Is zzzzZzzz the extent of your analysis, idiot?

  724. chicon says:

    Hello, Bitter. What are your thoughts on N. Korea?

  725. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi – I think Trump should tell the fat bastard to keep blowing his money on missiles while his people starve. Give South Korea what it needs to defend itself. I think China will rake out the fat bastard if he gets to be too much of a problem.

  726. chicon says:

    Careful about the fat comments – he’ll send Rodman looking for you. Of course, you have MD to protect you.

  727. BayernFan says:

    Driving from Louisville to Indianapolis on I65 this evening. Pulled in WCBS NYC, WBZ Boston, 1060 KYW Philadelphia, KMOX St. Louis, WTAM Cleveland, and 1130 not sure where maybe Canada.

  728. Bitterlaw says:

    BF – If you can get 1060 from Philadelphia, you can probably get 1210. Conservative talk station WPHT.

  729. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy Easter to those who celebrate it.

    Happy Sunday to lisab.

  730. BayernFan says:

    Yeah it has to be late at night when a lot of stations power down. I gotta find out what 1130 was. Quebec has that frequency but it is French language and this was English. It was doing international news at midnight. Funny that I cN get all those eastern cities but Chicago not so much.

  731. Bitterlaw says:

    Where are my Biblical scholars, SoHope and DW? Why do we say Jesus rose from the dead on the third day or that he was dead for three days. If he died on the afternoon of Good Friday and was raised early on Easter Sunday, that is not even 48 hours and could be as little as 36 hours. I am not doubting the miracle. I guess they just went with being dead ON part of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday as 3 days.

  732. BayernFan says:

    It’s like being in jail, BL. You get credit for every day that you spent a part of in jail. So if you go in at 11:59pm and get released 2 minutes later you get 2 days credit. If you have 1 for 1 credit time you just satisfied a 4 day jail sentence in 2 minutes.

  733. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/italian-emma-morano-last-known-survivor-19th-century-174058715.html

    Walt never gets credit for being the oldest human. Never should have let that dinosaur eat his birth certificate.

  734. Mr.Vito says:

    In numerous places in the Bible, “X days and nights”, “X days”, “after X days”, and “on the Xth day” are used interchangeably in the same story by the same speaker.

    Apparently in ancient times “days and nights” in this way was just a phrase to emphasize the time period covered consecutive days.

  735. Mr.Vito says:

    I.e. Days and nights would come consecutively between the beginning and end over a period covering three days.

  736. Bitterlaw says:

    Thank you. I forgot that Mr. Vito is a hole-y and a holy sock.

  737. janz says:

    We survived NK’s Saturday’s birthday bash for the young dictator’s grandfather, along with a possible cyber sabotage of their missile launch. So far so good….

    In the meantime may those who celebrate the religous holiday of Easter have a blessed day!

  738. Cash Cow TM says:

    Happy Easter to all.

    Easter

    Teaser
    Reseat
    Treas (ur)e
    See art

    A steer
    E tears

  739. Wes says:

    Happy Easter, everyone. Whether you believe today is the celebration of the fertility goddess Ishtar or the solemn acknowledgement of when Jesus died on the cross, today is an important religious day to many people.

    May everyone enjoy it and have ample time to spend with the family.

  740. Cash Cow TM says:

    The American Indians spoke of this or that happening “many moons ago”.

    I asume they were speaking of time units and not literally the number of exposed buck naked rear ends of Injun bucks and squaws that were thrust upon their visual sensibilities.

  741. Cash Cow TM says:

    Wes

    Jesus was crucified on a Friday. He rose from the dead on a Sunday.

    Easter Sunday celebrarates His resurrection.

  742. Mr.Vito says:

    Minor point… it is acknowledgement of when Jesus was resurrected, which makes it a celebration rather than a memorial.

  743. Mr.Vito says:

    Okay, not a minor point, but I was trying to be gentle.

  744. Wes says:

    Nitpickers are out in force today.

    Fair enough. I’d probably do the same thing.

    Today is the day Christians celebrate Jesus’ resurrection after His execution on the cross.

  745. BayernFan says:

    No chit Wes!!! /sarc. Lol. Happy Easter!!

  746. Walt says:

    It is Resurrection Weekend here at the homestead, too.

    Friday they came to seed the big bare lawn areas and put in shrubs and mulch (and now I water 3 times a day).

    On Saturday, Mrs. Walt and I mucked out the pond, cleaned the pond filter twice.

  747. Walt says:

    And this morning, Mrs. Walt found a giant bullfrog entangled in the straw mesh strips in front of the house by the road covering one of the big patches of newly seeded grass. She rescued it, took its immobile body down to the pond in the back and plopped him in. No movement. It floated lifelessly. She scooped it back out and put it on the bank. THEN IT SLOWLY OPENED ITS EYES AND JUMPED IN THE POND!

    And Mrs. Walt is potting up and giving rebirth to lots of bulbs and flowers as I type.

    Resurrection Weekend.

  748. Cash Cow TM says:

    Already today, I have picked a whole basket full of nits!

    Walt says I am a cotton pickin’ nit picker!

  749. Bitterlaw says:

    Although I do not believe in atheism, I know what Wes meant. Back the F off, people. It is Easter.

  750. jason says:

    Happy Easter

    Llama roast was superb…

  751. jason says:

    Walt, pilgrims will soon start arriving soon from all over to the site of the bullfrog miracle.

    Most will be content with iced tea but I prefer some of that white lightning they distill around there.

  752. jason says:

    Soon soon..better slow down on the white lightning

  753. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason doesn’t just break up with somebody. He eats them. That is hard core.

  754. lisab says:

    Scientists Say Only 10 Years Left to Save the Planet

    The planet, as we know it, has been given a deadline: 10 years. According to the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis

  755. Wes says:

    It is time to celebrate, for tomorrow we all may die!

    Basically a bunch of Marxist fanboys on the Left have declared Global Warming

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4

    is the greatest threat Earth has ever faced.

    What happens if we suffer a collision with an asteroid or comet as big as Olympus Mons?

    Wouldn’t that be a tiny bit greater threat given its eerily realistic possibility than that Earth will fall to the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil of Global Warming

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4

    ?

  756. Wes says:

    For some reason, Dave’s system didn’t make links interactive?

    Hm.

  757. BayernFan says:

    NT