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Handel Surges Into Tie With Ossoff in GA

The polls are closed in Virginia and the vote counting will begin. But the important election news from today is a mere three weeks after Survey USA showed Democrat Jon Ossoff with a huge 75 lead over Republican Karen Handel, today Survey USA is now showing the race as a dead heat tie.

US HOUSE – GEORGIA – CD6 RUNOFF (Survey USA)
Karen Handel (R) 47%
Jon Ossoff (D) 47%

This poll was done June 7-11 among 700 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 7:26 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (317)

317 Responses to “Handel Surges Into Tie With Ossoff in GA”

  1. GA Voter says:

    Senator Isakson finally cutting media ads for Handel. What took so long? Still an uphill climb against all that money and low informational voters.

  2. Robbie says:

    Is the state that gave us E W Jackson trying to give us Corey Stewart?

    It’s early, but Gillispie leads by less than 2 at this point.

    Meanwhile, Northam has beaten Periello soundly in the Democrat primary.

  3. Robbie says:

    Dave Wasserman?
    @Redistrict
    22 minutes ago

    Surprise, surprise: Corey Stewart (R) may be the more interesting insurgent tonight as Tom Perriello’s (D) chances fade. #VAGOV

  4. Robbie says:

    Corey Stewart, the Confederate flag waving Trumpist, trails Gillispie by just 2 with 60% of the vote counted.

  5. Tina says:

    Senator Cotton was the winner today. He destroyed muh russian,

    Great job, along wi rubio last week destroying comedy.

  6. Robbie says:

    Dave Wasserman?
    @Redistrict
    1 minute ago

    There’s a new name for the voters most people thought of as VA’s moderate Republicans a few years ago: Democrats.

  7. Tina says:

    Cotton, rubio one two punches.

    Please no more muh russian hearings

    Waste of taxoayer money.

  8. Robbie says:

    John Podhoretz?
    @jpodhoretz
    2 minutes ago

    This Corey Stewart result. Mayday. Mayday.

  9. Tina says:

    Sessions

    Senate Slayer

    Drudge

  10. Tina says:

    Marc Thiessen @marcthiessen
    This is the Seinfeld of hearings — a hearing about nothing. Embarassment for Democrats.

  11. Robbie says:

    Gillespie’s lead is now less than a point. The Confederate flag waving Trumpist might just win.

    Luke Thompson?
    6 minutes ago

    It shouldn’t be this hard to beat an underfunded confederate cos-player from Minnesota.

  12. Robbie says:

    John Podhoretz?
    @jpodhoretz

    VA possibilities: extremists surging because Trump has revolutionized GOP, or because moderates have become Democrats. Either way, trouble.

  13. BayernFan says:

    GOP voters still pissed off at the establishment GOP. Imagine that.

  14. Wes says:

    So they want to nominate the Christine O’Donnell of the VAGOP, Bay.

    Wonderful.

  15. Wes says:

    When Ed Gillespie–as mainstream a conservative Republican as one can hope for–is unacceptable to the VAGOP primary electorate, it’s time to put the GOP out of its collective misery.

  16. Robbie says:

    Corey Stewart campaigned on keeping Confederate statutes, but it’s more important to teach the establishment a lesson. Smart.

  17. Wes says:

    The Tea Party:

    Let’s send a message!

    Mainstream Republicans:

    What’s the message?

    Tea Party:

    It’s our fringe candidates or the Democrats!

    Mainstream Republicans:

    Ugh! That’s not exactly a einning message.

  18. Wes says:

    Winning*

  19. Robbie says:

    The Virginia primary is a microcosm for the GOP overall. Stupidity rules. We blew this race in 2013 with Cuccinelli and EW Jackson and may just do it again with a Confederate war supporter.

  20. Tina says:

    I hope gileppsie can win. He may have sat on a lead. Not good.

    So off is beginning to fafe, not impressed sith handel, hope she takes it.

  21. Wes says:

    80% in. Gillespie is up by 1800.

  22. Wes says:

    Help us, Ed Gillespie. You’re out only hope.

  23. Robbie says:

    What a party! Who wouldn’t want to be a part of this.

    Dave Wasserman?
    @Redistrict
    6 minutes ago

    The best thing to happen to Corey Stewart’s campaign, which was recently on life support: New Orleans/Charlottesville monument fights.

  24. Tina says:

    Kamala Harris @SenKamalaHarris
    It’s unacceptable that Sessions – the top law enforcement official in the country – cannot name his legal basis for evading questions.

    Its unacceptable that you are this stupid.

  25. Robbie says:

    Moderate Republicans in Virginia, especially in the northern part of the state, have become Democrats. That’s a clownish oaf like Stwart can do this well.

  26. Wes says:

    Republicans used to be the dominant party in the Old Dominion. Then the wingnuts forced a divisive primary in 2001. Things have never been the same since.

  27. Wes says:

    Somewhere NYCMike is licking his lips at the prospect of seeing a Dem beat a Dick Mourdock clone in VA.

  28. BayernFan says:

    GOP voters aren’t asking the GOP establishment for much. Keep its 7 year promise to repeal the ACA, crack down on illegal immigration, and support the GOP President who is under fire from the Dems and media. If they won’t do this, then don’t complain the they get primaried. That’s life. Deal with it.

  29. Todd McCain says:

    Looks to me that G will likely win since he is leading in Fairfax and there are many precincts still needed to report there….

  30. Robbie says:

    Well, and I’m just spit balling here, maybe if the bozo in the White House didn’t spend the majority of his waking moments live tweeting cable news or meddling in a FBI investigation, it would be far easier to accomplish the goals of the last seven years.

    As for “deal with it”. We’re all going to have to deal with it when Trump catastrophic approval rating causes a landslide rout for Republicans in 2018. But at least the establishment will have been taught a lesson, right?

  31. jonesy says:

    Good point on GOP no support for Trump, bay. Starts with Paul Ryan, the awful go candidate for Romney.

    Gillespie can win the GE though, Stewart would get blown out

  32. Wes says:

    Bayernbitch, what office does Ed Gillespie hold in Congress–or has he ever held–again?

  33. Phil says:

    Yes, looks like G will hang on considering what is left.

  34. jonesy says:

    Wes, you have to admit Gillespie needs to get his act together

  35. Tina says:

    On AF-1, @SHSanders45 told reporters Pres Trump has “no intention” to fire Robert Mueller as special counsel, though he has the right to.

    Mueller will not be fired. He will recuse himself at some point perhaps. Trump interviewed Mueller for the fbi position the day before the sp was announced.

  36. jason says:

    meddling in a FBI investigation,”

    Where did he “meddle in the FBI investigation”

    Take your time, it’s going to be somewhere in the left wing garbage you love.

  37. Tina says:

    The rs have no more excuses. Start governing. No more muh russian if you continue with these hearings, you will lose in 2018. If necessary, replace the ky drunk.

  38. Tina says:

    Meddling.

    Lol, that is in black helicopter teritory

  39. Wes says:

    No argument, Jonesy, but after George Allen and macaca, does the VAGOP really want to be associated with someone like Stewart?

  40. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2017 at 8:58 pm
    meddling in a FBI investigation,”

    Where did he “meddle in the FBI investigation”

    Take your time, it’s going to be somewhere in the left wing garbage you love.

    – Trump’s conversation with Comey about Flynn. And before to you say Trump denied it, his son went on Judge Janine’s show and said it happened.

    Yes, when the president asks the FBI Director he “hopes” he can see his way to letting things go, that’s meddling.

    Notice I’m not saying obstructing or anything else. But Trump meddled.

  41. jonesy says:

    Bay, we need to beat Donnelly. What is the scoop?

  42. Tina says:

    There are no excuses for doing sheot because of muh russian and blowing six months getting a full cabinet.

    Btw, what happened to repealing obumbkercare on day 1.

    They lie

  43. Tina says:

    So we went from colluding to obstruction to meddling.

    This is progress perhaps

  44. Robbie says:

    Tina and he “muh Russia” crap.

  45. jonesy says:

    40. Agree Wes.

  46. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:02 pm
    So we went from colluding to obstruction to meddling.

    This is progress perhaps

    – Two thing which I NEVER suggested Trump did you conspiratorial liar.

  47. BayernFan says:

    Gillespie is GOP establishment. Guit by association. Don’t blame Trump. Blame the political tin ears of his Congressional friends. GOP voters are pissed the same way and for the same reason you were pissed at W for cowering in the face of attacks, Wes.

  48. Tina says:

    You are upset, i know your muh russian story has flatlined the last two weeks.

  49. jonesy says:

    Looks the GOP got a solid candidate for The NH-1 to take on shea porter

  50. Tina says:

    Cue the black helicopters for the loon, maybe, you can soeinkle cheetos on your face.

  51. Wes says:

    I see, Bay. Punish those who have nothing to do with what infuriates and reward the Dems with dominance in a critical state.

    Logic isn’t exactly your strong suit apparently.

  52. Tina says:

    Sessions is awesome. Okd school reagan type prosecutor.

    Was laughing and smiling at the senators, even the enemy within tyoes.

  53. jonesy says:

    Tina, Robbie’s new name is scroll down. Only way to deal with his msm loving garbage

  54. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:03 pm
    You are upset, i know your muh russian story has flatlined the last two weeks.

    – You are a lying liar who lies. No matter how many times I have said I don’t believe the collusion story, you claim I believe it.

    Given the fact you repeatedly lie, I can only assume one of two things. First, you’re a troll. Second, you’re mentally impaired and have no idea what’s truth and what isn’t.

  55. jonesy says:

    Who is vogel?

  56. Tina says:

    Feinstein: Rosenstein cemented a very important pt during his testimony this morning: The president cannot fire special counsel Bob Mueller

    Uh, he will fire himself, read the cfr cited by sessions today and kearn something. No way this charade continues.

  57. BayernFan says:

    Wes, you can bitch about it all you want, but it is political reality. Bitching about it doesn’t change things. If GOP voters thought establishment candidates had their back, there wouldn’t be a problem. Politics is dynamic, as you and many others learned 11/8/16.

  58. Tina says:

    You just wrote that he meddled. Meddling is obstruction dumb arse, quit with the semantical games pos.

    dabble in, encumber, horn in, impose, infringe, inject into, insert yourself into, interfere, interlope, intermeddle, interpose, interrupt, intervene, intrude, muscle into, obstruct, provide your two cents, pry, push in, tamper with, trespass

  59. Wes says:

    How’d that line of thinking work out for you in 2012, Bay?

  60. Robbie says:

    jonesy says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:06 pm
    Tina, Robbie’s new name is scroll down. Only way to deal with his msm loving garbage

    – You’re an interesting troll. Rather than do any sort of research on what people here have said over the years, you just decided to repeat what the Trumpists here think.

    Your troll masters didn’t prepare you well for this job. You claimed I liked Romney and Stevens when any long time posters knows it was the opposite.

    But put that red MAGA hat on and celebrate dear leader’s 36% approval rating in Gallup. I bet you’re getting tired of all that winning.

  61. DW says:

    looks like Gillespie will hang on

  62. Robbie says:

    So because Bayern doesn’t like the establishment, it’s fine to take it out on Gillespie and ensure Democrats maintain their strangle hold on Virginia.

    Sound logic. That will teach them.

  63. Robbie says:

    I wouldn’t expect Tina to understand this, but obstruction of justice has a precise legal meaning. Trump didn’t do that so that’s why I said meddling. It has no legal meaning, but it implies he stuck his nose into a matter from which he should stayed far away.

  64. Tina says:

    You loons need to give up on muh russian, may e gomafter barron.

  65. DW says:

    Gillespie gives us a chance to win.

  66. Tina says:

    There is a legal,definition to meddling.

  67. BayernFan says:

    I’m saying nothing of the sort…I’m just pointing out political reality. It’s not pleasant. But there it is. I don’t vote in Virginia. Perhaps the GOP mucky mucks need to learn as much about the electorate as the Dems and media do. In my opinion, it’s not rocket surgery. But, apparently, it’s plain stubbornness on the part of the GOP establishment. and fear, probably.

  68. jonesy says:

    Gallup is a joke . Ras has trump at 46 . Gallup did not poll 2016, after blowing the 2012 election.

    Ras was spot on in 2016 sideshow robbie

  69. Tina says:

    You need to look at the clip of sessions destroying the oregon loon.

  70. jonesy says:

    Bayern and Wes are two of the best posters here, both make good points

  71. Tina says:

    Btw, sessions warned that the leakers will be dealt with. This includes comedy and when this happens look for the jebot loons to be triggered.

  72. jason says:

    Gillespie pulling away.

    Wobbie hardest hit.

  73. Tina says:

    Well gillepsi needs to fire some people and not sitting back on the campaign. He needs to go for it. It is an uphill battle for him against the drat.

  74. Robbie says:

    In Jonesy’s bizarre Trumpian troll world, NATO is a globalist cabal, Gallup is a joke, and Rasmussen is totally awesome. Well, Trump’s at 43% in Rasmussen today. Wow, so much winning.

  75. Wes says:

    Bayern saw firsthand the results when the Tea Party hijacked the GOP for ideolohical impurity in 2012. Now he’s their spokesmsn and their bitch, jerking off at the prospdct of throwing away a key gubernatorial race to punish the DC crowd.

    Brilliant!

  76. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:17 pm
    Gillespie pulling away.

    Wobbie hardest hit.

    – This is what I don’t get about you. There’s plenty of reasons for you to disagree with me, but instead you choose to make posts like this which are bald faced lies.

  77. Tina says:

    https://thesaurus.plus/related/meddling/obstruction

    Medling and obstruction mean the same thing. Go back to nbc, they use the word meddling a lot.

  78. jonesy says:

    Scroll down

  79. Tina says:

    In short, the drat loons do not want to come out and say obstruction, so they use meddling to mean obstruction,

    Poll tested words.

  80. jason says:

    Trump did not meddle in the FBI investigation. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

    Wobbie knows that. But the pull of the MSM trash is just too strong for him.

  81. Tina says:

    The only precedent Jeff Sessions didn’t follow today is leaking govt docs to the NY Times weeks before his hearing

    Jack posobiec

    Lol, no clue who he is, but funny.

  82. Robbie says:

    This seems about right. The collapse of the Republican Party in Virginia has been something to behold. Mr. Macca got the ball rolling and the Tea Party took it the rest of the way.

    Liam Donovan?
    @LPDonovan
    3 minutes ago

    Biggest winner of the night: Tim Kaine

  83. jonesy says:

    Wes , to be fair , Bayern was pretty bullish on trumps chances , and Matt bevan in Kentucky .

  84. Tina says:

    Btw, where are comedys memos? Who has them, if he does not have them?

    Did they go lost, like Harry Reids papers from the 2010 debate?

  85. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm
    Trump did not meddle in the FBI investigation. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

    Wobbie knows that. But the pull of the MSM trash is just too strong for him.

    – Trump hoped the FBI could find it’s way to letting Flynn off. He meddled. He no businesss discussing the topic with the FBI.

    I just love watching you defend Trump every bit as much as NYCMike does. What a turnaround from 2016.

  86. Tina says:

    Wait a minute, not funny. Everbody leaks, i read it here.

  87. jason says:

    Right, meddle means to interfere.

    Nothing Trump said or did changed anything in the FBI investigation, and Comey admitted as much.

    It’s just MSM trash that Wobbie eats up like maggots on roadkill.

  88. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm
    The only precedent Jeff Sessions didn’t follow today is leaking govt docs to the NY Times weeks before his hearing

    Jack posobiec

    Lol, no clue who he is, but funny.

    – Posobiec believed the pizzagate story was true and and also asked Trump in the Oval Office his thoughts on Seth Rich being murdered by the DNC.

  89. jason says:

    He no businesss discussing the topic with the FBI.”

    Zzzzzzzz….

  90. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:24 pm
    Right, meddle means to interfere.

    Nothing Trump said or did changed anything in the FBI investigation, and Comey admitted as much.

    It’s just MSM trash that Wobbie eats up like maggots on roadkill.

    – I’m sorry. I didn’t know that in order for it to be meddling, the outcome had to change. That’s just ridiculous. That’s not how this kind of thing has ever been viewed.

    And I’ve never heard anyone in the MS say what I have said about meddling. It’s my view, but keep relying on your crutch.

  91. jason says:

    just love watching you defend Trump every bit as much as NYCMike does.”

    LOL

    Just today I already had an argument about Trump.

    I defend him when he is right.

    And the allegation he meddled in the FBI investigation is pure garbage not corroborated ANYWHERE. In fact, even Comey confirmed Trump did not interfere in any way in the investigation.

  92. Tina says:

    There is evidence that comedy leaked several times, before his last leak, he is in kegal jeopardy imo. Reading between the lines of sessions testimony today.

  93. Tina says:

    Comedy admitted that trump told him to investigate me, investigate my satellites, it would be good to know who did what.

    Sounds like meddling aka obstruction.

  94. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:25 pm
    He no businesss discussing the topic with the FBI.”

    Zzzzzzzz….

    – Imagine if GWB had called Pat Fitzgerald into the Oval Office and asked him to see if he could see his way to letting things go with Scooter Libby.

    GWB would have had no business doing that and neither did Trump. Trump knew what he was doing wasn’t smart either because he asked everyone to leave the room.

  95. Tina says:

    Meddling is a mika joe scarfarce word of the day,

    What a losah scarfarce is. Phony R.

  96. Tina says:

    The loon is now reaching even more.

  97. Tina says:

    Caspar Weinberger, who meddled there?

    Trump could pardon flynn today, if he wants to. There is nothing you and the drats can do about it.

  98. BayernFan says:

    Let’s not forget, Wes, that Lugar in my state was trounced in the GOP primary. Absolutely trounced. Theres a reason for that. The GOP establishment needs to be better at politics. It is in the process of throwing away what GOP voters have given them (at THEIR request) the last 4 elections. Total government control. GOP voters came out of the woodwork in unprecedented number last year. What have the political geniuses learned? It’s an open question. Hopefully, the result tonight will cause some real smart insightful political thinking, and not more “blame the voters” lazy analysis.

  99. Diamond Jim says:

    C

  100. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:29 pm
    Meddling is a mika joe scarfarce word of the day,

    What a losah scarfarce is. Phony R.

    – I don’t watch Morning Joe. If I’m not working at that time of the day, I’m asleep. But nice try Tinfoil.

  101. Tina says:

    Flynn was railroaded because he said the obumbler was not wanting to fight isis. To get even, the obumbker tapped him, that ismwhere we are at with the muh russian matter.

  102. jason says:

    Here is Webster’s definition of meddling.

    : to interest oneself in what is not one’s concern : interfere without right or propriety

    Neither fits anything Trump did.

  103. jonesy says:

    Landslide Robbie bashing conservative twitter sources, while pimping hacks from wapo and Nro.

    Jack P. , along with cernovich and bill Mitchell predicted trump would win. What is your excuse mister 370 EV?

  104. Tina says:

    What is this pizza gate thingy all about? The loon keeps mentioning it.

  105. Robbie says:

    Mike Flynn was dirty and had no business being anywhere near a presidential campaign. Everyone in the Trump transition warned Trump not to hire him (Christie even said so on the record), but Trump did it anyway.

    Mike Flynn is the original sin of the Trump presidency. Had he never hired Flynn, the Russia story and all of its offspring would never have happened.

  106. BayernFan says:

    So who is this Stewart guy and why is he getting nearly the same amount of votes as Gillespie? What are his voters saying? What do they want? Can Gillespie give it to them?

  107. Robbie says:

    So Jonesy thinks NATO is a globalist cabal, gallup is a joke, and National Review is full of hacks, but he does like super semen Cernovich. Why am I not surprised that a Trump troll would like a Trump troll like Cernovich.

  108. jason says:

    Sorry, I don’t buy the “let’s be nice to deadender” crap Bayern is trying to sell.

    Stewart had to be defeated. It looks like he will be defeated.

    The is nothing to “learn” here. That is typical deadender horsecrap.

  109. jonesy says:

    108. Getting a little testy there Reynolds wrap .

  110. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:34 pm
    What is this pizza gate thingy all about? The loon keeps mentioning it.

    – This is why I question your mental status. I had this very argument with you this past winter and at that time you knew exactly what pizzagate was.

    Convenient memory loss.

  111. Tina says:

    I still thinkmthe dnc hack was an inside job. Comedy screwed up that investigation, however, trusting that software co used by the drats, which actually had ties to russia, but that wont get out.

  112. jonesy says:

    Gillespie won

  113. Tina says:

    I made nomargument with younabout pizza gste, nice try. No clue what it is, but keep touting it.

  114. jonesy says:

    You called every swing state for Hillary, Robbie . Why are you surprised you get roasted here ?

  115. BayernFan says:

    109……that is how you lose general elections. I would want to figure out how to get the millions of voters who came out crazy for Trump to want to do the same thing for a few more cycles.

  116. Robbie says:

    This won’t please NYCMike, but I guess I’m going to have to remind everyone who Mike Cernovich is.

    He thinks he has super semen, he doesn’t believe date rape is possible, and he believes he can use his mind to control gorillas.

    But in Jonesy’s world, he’s a fine conservative source.

  117. jonesy says:

    Robbie is too easy . I am back to scrolling down. Good news in Va . Good night all

  118. Robbie says:

    jonesy says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:39 pm
    You called every swing state for Hillary, Robbie . Why are you surprised you get roasted here ?

    – You showed up two weeks ago spouting nothing but Trump talking points. You’re a troll. You have no history commenting here, but you believe NATO is globalist, Gallup is a joke, and Cernovich is a good conservative guy.

  119. Tina says:

    Levin argues that the sp can ne fired by the president.

    Brilliant for newt to go out there and throw shade on mueller.

    Everybody is talking about recusal, friendship with comedy, etc.

  120. jason says:

    If the Stewart voters think Gillespie is not conservative enough, they are free to stay home and elect another moonbat as VA Governor.’

    It’s not rocket science.

    I am tired of the theory we have to kiss the deadender’s asses if we want to win. I don’t really want to win at any cost, and if I have to accept Corey Stewart f–k it.

    That is why I am no longer a registered R. I no longer feel obligated to vote for the R candidate. I will support those that deserve my vote.

  121. Tina says:

    Good,news for gillepsie indeed.

  122. jason says:

    Jonesy, Wobbie is just upset Stewart didn’t win, it doesn’t support his narrative.

  123. Tina says:

    Another i, et tu, jason?

  124. BayernFan says:

    Of course the President can fire the SP. He is part of the executive branch.

  125. Tina says:

    Sessions is smarter than that whole senate chamber. He is great.

  126. NYCmike says:

    “Hopefully, the result tonight will cause some real smart insightful political thinking, and not more “blame the voters” lazy analysis.”

    -Well said, Bayern, but as jason showed, it will fall on deaf ears.

    They would rather say that voters are “racist” or “deadenders” like a Democrat would, take the easy way out.

    Meanwhile, still waiting for healthcare legislation, corporate tax cut, etc….

  127. Chicon says:

    Glad Gillespie won. This deadender thing here always interests me. I think it is a good thing that an electorate retains the right to vote a different direction if those in power don’t govern as promised. Much of the Republican side of the electorate believes the party establishment has not delivered on promises. They are the customer – it is up to the those officials to convince the customer that they are indeed doing what they promised. This process is what resulted in Trump.

  128. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2017 at 9:44 pm
    Jonesy, Wobbie is just upset Stewart didn’t win, it doesn’t support his narrative.

    – This is such BS. Again, there are plenty of reasons for you to disagree with me yet you choose to lie.

    I spent the early part of this particular comment section lamenting Corey Stewart and his Confederate leanings, yet so make the bald faced lie I wanted him to win.

    I wanted Gillespie to win and am extremely glad he did.

    Stop lying.

  129. Robbie says:

    Deadenders are the reason it took Republicans until 2014 to gain control of the Senate. COD, Angle, Buck, Mourdock, and Akin are just a few kept Harry Reid in power.

    The view the establishment needs to be taught a lesson is nutty. When the establishment finally got involved in the primaries in 2014, we nominated great candidates who won all over the country. It was the establishment who saved us from Wolf, McDaniel, Brannon, and Bevin.

  130. BayernFan says:

    …and we are waiting for repeal of the ACA, immigration control, and hardly any of them are fighting back against Trump’s detractors. So it isn’t so much as “teaching them a lesson” as it is wanting to replace them with folks more attune to what those voters want. I thought the establishment GOP figured it out when they convinced many to vote for them like you said. But so far……? Smart good politicians figure this out. It’s not that difficult, really. The establishment is just being cynical and stubborn. We’ll see how that works out for them.

  131. Chicon says:

    Robbie – it isn’t a view, it’s the actual scenario. Those poor deadender candidates would get much less traction if those elected actually deliver on promises. The fact that the Virginia election was even close is indicative of anger among the electorate. You can wish it weren’t, or get your elitist hackles up, but that’s just the way it is. Ignoring the sentiments of the electorate has resulted in President Trump.

  132. Tina says:

    21 point muss by rcp in va. Gillepsie ran a sheotty campaign.

  133. Tina says:

    They need to get off muh russian and start governing, this congress will,end up costing us because of the leaderrshio being so ineffective.

  134. jason says:

    “The establishment is just being cynical and stubborn. We’ll see how that works out for them.”

    Zzzzzzz… let’s see how the deadenders enjoy more moonbats in office.

  135. Chicon says:

    Jason – no moonbats if those elected actually do what they say they will do. Fail to deliver and the electorate will do something extreme (such as elect Trump).

    I want to see zero moonbats elected, but I look first to elected officials to blame.

  136. Walt says:

    Republican Primary

    CANDIDATE
    Edward Gillespie 159,853 43.7%
    Corey Stewart 155,641 42.6
    Frank Wagner 50,274 13.7

    Best news is Jill Vogel wins R contet for LT. Gov.

  137. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Now approximately 111,000 have been cast early in the GA CD-6 contest.The breakdown is:
    Other- 45,500
    GOP- 40,000
    Dem.- 25,500

  138. Wes says:

    In ominous news for the VAGOP, Dems had approximately 200,000 more primary votes than Republicans. In macroelections, primary turnout is almost always the way to handicap the parties’ relative enthusiasm and divine the way of the political winds.

    Gillespie has work to do.

  139. Wes says:

    Chicon, since Ed Gillespie has never held elected office, what sense does it make to try to punish him by nearly nominating Corey Stewart?

  140. Jonesy says:

    Wes, Soros gave Periello a lot of money and resources, they could hve effected turnout on the D side.

    At least we have a GOP candidate who can compete in NOVA

  141. Jonesy says:

    Stewart losing also takes the Confederate monument issue off the table. Media would have made that a national issue.

    A good night for the GOP with Gillespie and Vogel

  142. Jonesy says:

    Periello was backed by Soros, Warren, and Bernie Sanders and lost by double digits. Good to see

  143. Tina says:

    Why is kac tweeting this? She was supposed to take trumps twitter away. /s

    Kellyanne Conway @KellyannePolls

    FEC report: Mueller’s team includes big Democrat donors. Some maxed out, none wanted Trump to be POTUS. @CNNPolitics

  144. Tina says:

    Krauthammer: Sessions Testimony “Exposed The Absurdity” Of Russia Collusion Claims; “Where Is The Crime?”

    Yes, but it took you a year to figure that out. How smart are you?

  145. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue” @NolteNC
    ·
    13h

    Remember…

    The media invented the Russia hoax to cover up and protect Barry from his illegal spying.

    Don’t lose sight of that.

    Nah, did not haopen, I read it here.

  146. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    NBC in Alexandria VA is breaking this story right now:

    Gunman just opened fire on Congressional members playing baseball this morning in Del Ray

  147. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #148- More
    Scalise shot!

    The tweet has been confirmed, but so far no news outlets have revealed any more details.

    UPDATE: Matt Murphy tweets, “from @RepMoBrooks ‘Shooter attack at GOPpractice. Rifle. 50+ shots fired. 5 or more hit including GOP Whip steve scalise. I am not shot.’”

    Good lord.

    MORE FROM CHAD PERGRAM: “#BREAKING Shooting at Congressional baseball practice. Scalise hit. Other staffers hit. Gunmen with rifle.”

    Gunmen?

  148. Wes says:

    Actually, Jonesy, I would have preferred it had Periello won. He’s the kind of candidate who would have significantly less appeal outside the Dem strongholds where the GOP needs to run up the score whereas Northam exudes the kind of faux moderation that’s caused Warner and Kaine to be successful.

    That said, Northam only got 55% against an incredibly weak candidate in 2013; thus Gillespie has a chance to run ahead of him statewide.

  149. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes
    Your comment on #149

  150. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #149
    Muzzie or AntiFa? I vote Muzzie!

  151. Wes says:

    I don’t know what to say, Sheeple. If I were a Dem, I’d keep a low profile right now though. Rightly or wrongly Republicans will savage the McCarthite Dem rhetoric of the Dems as the cause of this.

  152. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Senator Mike Lee said that a staffer of Scalise was shot in the chest.
    Also Lee says that someone use their belt to assist in stopping the bleeding of Rep Scalise. Supposedly there were over 50 shots fired.

  153. Wes says:

    I don’t know what to say, Sheeple. If I were a Dem, I’d keep a low profile right now though. Rightly or wrongly Republicans will savage the McCarthyite Dem rhetoric of the Dems as the cause of this.

  154. Wes says:

    One of Scalise’s staffers was shot in the chest. Scalise himself was shot in the hip.

    Damn.

  155. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes
    Maybe the Dept of Navy will name a ship after Steve Scalise like they did for Gabby Giffords!(Gallows Humor)

  156. Wes says:

    Based on the following three things:

    1) the number of primary voters on each side

    2) the narrowness of Gillespie’s victory

    3) the fact that Dems nominated the stronger candidate

    I’m now officially moving VA-Gov to Lean D Hold.

    That said, Ed Gillespie is the man with the ability to beat Northam.

    Godspeed, Ed.

  157. DW says:

    Mo Brooks used his belt to stop Scalise from bleeding

  158. jason says:

    Democrats will soon blame:

    Guns

    The GOP culture of hate

    Wobbie will soon blame:

    Trump

  159. DW says:

    Wes, I think Gillespie has a decent shot at it. Much of it depends on whether or not deadenders will turn out to support him.

  160. DW says:

    the shooter apparently asked if those practicing were Republicans or Democrats

  161. DW says:

    fox news saying Scalise crawled off field bleeding from hip

  162. jason says:

    I did notice the higher turnout for the Dems in VA, Wes. It was significantly higher.

    But it could be at least partially due to the fact the Dems had a real race going and the R was not predicted to be close. It could be the Stewart deadenders were more motivated than the Gillespie voters who stayed home thinking he was a shoe-in.

    Also was the third GOP candidate more of a “Gillespie” or a “Stewart”? If he was not a “Stewart” then the 60-40 split is not so bad.

  163. NYCmike says:

    “1) the number of primary voters on each side”

    -This MINOR detail shows the absurdity of blaming “deadenders” for VA Republicans struggles. There may be more Democratic, large-city-type voters in VA now, especially after the last 16 years of ever-increasing deficit spending, with lots of it staying in the NOVA area. The voters know where their rolls get buttered. Republicans can probably still win an election, but it will be tough.

    Another issue, one constantly brought up here, in which Ted Cruz and HIS SHUTDOWN are partially blamed for the Cuccinelli loss. If that is the case, congressional Republican inaction this year should be partially to blame if Gillispie falls short.

    Personally, although probable, I don’t go for either one of those excuses, but it will be fun to see which posters show some consistency.

  164. DW says:

    Mo Brooks says you are pretty helpless when you don’t have a weapon to defend yourself during a shooting.

  165. Wes says:

    I was just about to post that, DW.

    Watch the MSM blame the so-called “angry white male” rather than the Left’s demagogic rhetoric.

    Tread carefully, Dems. Your inflammatory rhetoric led to a drubbing at the polls in 2014. Now you’ve triggered a shooting.

  166. jason says:

    Big fire at London tower.

    Wobbie will soon blame:

    Trump.

  167. DW says:

    If Scalise not been there, neither would his security detail, and the carnage would have been greater.

  168. DW says:

    Apparently Rand Paul was at the field too

  169. DW says:

    wow, they are saying if Scalise’s security detail not been there, we could be talking right now about 15 dead GOP congressmen…Lord help us.

  170. jason says:

    f that is the case, congressional Republican inaction this year should be partially to blame if Gillispie falls short.”

    I love deadender logic.

    Because of “GOP inaction”, let’s nominate deadender losers so there will be more liberal Democrats in office.

    Brilliant I tell you. Absolutely brilliant.

  171. DW says:

    Rand Paul saying he was trying to figure out where the shots were coming from, so he could figure out which side of the oak tree to hide behind.

  172. NYCmike says:

    “If he was not a “Stewart” then the 60-40 split is not so bad.”

    -The Stewarts are still around? I figured they would have gone back to help Scotland become independent again.

  173. NYCmike says:

    #172 – clear proof that jason has terrible reading comprehension skills.

  174. DW says:

    yep…Paul confirms there would be no stopping the shooter had Scalise’s security detail not been there. A massacre avoided. By guns.

  175. Wes says:

    Mikey, Cuccinelli lost because he was a solipsistic megalomaniac who split the party for personal ambition and was less popular than a known crook. The shutdown didn’t help, but Cuccinelli was losing anyway.

  176. Chicon says:

    140 – Wes, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Yet it happens – a lot. I suspect it could be that individual voters feel their only way to express their anger is to turn things upside down. For most of them, with a job and a family, the vote is their only tool of expression. So, they vote for the candidate the establishment hates. In this case, Gillespie is the insider.

    Again, not saying it’s right, but it is what is. It is part of the political equation.

    Thoughts out to those injured this morning.

  177. DW says:

    Rand Paul is remarkably calm in the interview considering what he just saw and went through.

  178. NYCmike says:

    “let’s nominate deadender losers”

    -Who espoused this idea? I like Gillispie, have never said a bad word about him, wondered why the polls last time could have him down so low.

    Not sure why jason wants Gillispie to lose……

  179. NYCmike says:

    Wes-ley
    Leslie
    Phegley
    Smeadly
    Deadly

  180. DW says:

    Fox News confirms multiple sources saying the shooter first asked if they were Republicans or Democrats.

  181. NYCmike says:

    Maybe the VA voters thought Corey Stewart was Jimmy Stewart’s long lost brother/son/grandson, and that he would turn into Mr. Smith, and they could detour him to Richmond.

  182. NYCmike says:

    How is the staffer who got shot in the chest?

  183. DW says:

    Jeff Flake also very composed during his interview.

  184. jason says:

    How is the staffer who got shot in the chest?”

    He tweeted “Tell NYC I have had better mornings”

  185. Chicon says:

    186 – Lol. I love a heartless A-hole! Is that redundant?

  186. Jonesy says:

    182. Dw, this is bad true . MSM has blood on their hands.

    Luckily Scalise had cap police there as high ranking official. Otherwise there would be many dead

  187. jason says:

    Somebody told the shooter Rand Paul was a Republican?

    Arrest that man for false information.

  188. jason says:

    Maybe the VA voters thought Corey Stewart was Jimmy Stewart’s long lost brother/son/grandson,”

    NYC admits deadenders are not very smart?

    Baby steps, baby steps…..

  189. Jonesy says:

    Rep. DeSantis confirms that shooter came up minutes before to ask if he was a Dem Or Republican gathering.

  190. jason says:

    I am surprised Wobbie is not here yet regurgitating something the MSM is posting blaming Trump for the shootings.

    They don’t make MSM sycophant toadies like they used to…..

  191. Jonesy says:

    Jason, I wonder if American Express will continue to support Shakespeare in the Park now in Central Park.

  192. GeauxLSU says:

    This is very sad. Steve Scalise is a great guy. The craziness has to stop.

  193. Jonesy says:

    Rep. Williams of TX, also shot according to Fox News. Many aides too.

    Shooter asked if Rep or Dem, then changed clothes and came back. Will Black Lives matter condem shootings?

  194. NYCmike says:

    I ask about the staffer just so that we take a moment before cracking any jokes, as we have not heard if everyone is OK yet.

    Let’s not be callous because none of the IMPORTANT PEOPLE have all been checked out and are doing well.

  195. DW says:

    but I guess the play showing the killing of Trump is just free speech.

  196. jason says:

    “Mikey, Cuccinelli lost because he was a solipsistic megalomaniac who split the party for personal ambition and was less popular than a known crook. The shutdown didn’t help, but Cuccinelli was losing anyway.”

    Mikey? How endearing.

    Wes is right about Cuccinelli being a bad candidate. However the reason he “split the party” was that Bolling thought it was his “turn” and sat around waiting to be nominated while Cuccinelli actually worked for it. Bolling was a weak candidate that was being outpolled by Cuccinelli 3-1. The GOP should have come up with a better candidate against Cuccinelli, who basically won by default.

    Even then, he almost won, since the Dems also nominated a horrible candidate.

  197. DW says:

    2nd member of congress was NOT shot…injured leg diving into dugout for cover.

  198. jason says:

    Jason, I wonder if American Express will continue to support Shakespeare in the Park now in Central Park.”

    I would return my cards except I am addicted to them.

  199. DW says:

    Jeff Flake said it was an African American security officer who brought down the shooter

  200. NYCmike says:

    “Jeff Flake said it was an African American security officer who brought down the shooter”

    -did not realize our security personnel were categorized by their (or their family’s) place of origin……

  201. Waingro says:

    Thoughts and prayers to Steve Scalise. Thank God his security detail was there.

  202. Phil says:

    We need more plays with graphic assasinations of government officials. The bloodier the scenes the better. Very good for America.

    Gun grabbers to come our of the woodwork in 3..2..1

  203. Bitterlaw says:

    injured leg diving into dugout for cover.

    If only more people were better prepared.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65GBpY6Cjno

  204. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil——– Maybe this incident reinforces the NRA slogan that “only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with one”.

  205. jason says:

    Heh….

    Mike Huckabee says if Trump saved children from a burning building this would be what the NYT (and Wobbie) would say.

    “If Donald Trump ran into a burning building and ran out of that burning building and saved them, the New York Times headline would read “Donald Trump runs from historic structure as it burns to the ground,” he said.

  206. ssq says:

    Jeff Flake said it was an African American security officer who brought down the shooter”

    Another case of black people shooting white people….

  207. JC says:

    This is what happens when you have a political party refusing to accept the results of the election.

    When they try to convince half the population that the election was ‘stolen’ from them from teh evil russkies.

    When they glorify assignation plays and beheadings.

    When they work day and night to try to remove a duly elected president from office with fake dossiers and illegal leaks.

    This madness has to stop. Our government is being held hostage by the bureaucratic swamp class. If I was Trump I would end this charade and start taking drastic action – including revoking cnn’s press pass for sponsoring an assignation play as well as labeling antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.

    He should also say screw the left and stop cooperating with their dumb witch hunt. Order the DOJ to investigate and prosecute comey and other leakers, and just start enacting his agenda.

  208. Phil says:

    CNN is really pissed. They had a whole new volume of morning dump on Trump stories lined up. Will now have to wait until noon or so to get to them.

    Bummer.

  209. jason says:

    Wobbie was all set to regurgitate the CNN dump on Trump stories here and is now scrambling to find alternatives.

    Just tweeted that he will be delayed and apologizes for the inconvenience.

  210. jason says:

    Let me help Wobbie out…

    DKos has a headline he could use..

    “Republicans Rush to Politicize VA Shootings”

    Of course we know that if it had been Democrats shot, DKos and the left would NEVER politicize it… nahhhhhhhh…..

  211. Chicon says:

    Phil – Lol. Has MSNBC even reported the shooting yet? Are they sad that the Capitol Police were there?

  212. Phil says:

    Seriously, hopefully this guy was just a nut job with no partisan intent. The fact that he waited until he got to the ball field to ask about the political affiliation MAY indicate he wasn’t planning in advance to gun down just “Republicans” On the other hand it could indicate he was just confirming party affiliation before opening fire. Pretty sure, however, that it was no coincidence he showed up at a gathering of congressmen with a semi automatic rifle at 6:30 in the morning. He wasn’t duck hunting.

    Maybe the left can bail him out and cast him in their little play. You know. Put him on stage in NYC, give him a long knife prop, and let him have his turn stabbing the Trump look alike. Great fun.

  213. Chicon says:

    Phil, I think your point about being there at that hour loaded for bear is true. It seems unlikely it was random. The Dems were practicing nearby. Asking about the affiliation – if true – means he was making sure he didn’t hit the wrong target.

  214. jason says:

    Just speculation, but it seems like the shooter took the opportunity when informed they were Republicans.

    Did he go get a gun in his car after he was informed they were Republicans?

  215. Bitterlaw says:

    I would not be shocked if he was ready to shoot Democrats or Republicans and only asked because he was curious whom he would be killing.

  216. NYCmike says:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/10/illinois-debt-deficit-budget-election-239384

    -In the case of Illinois, would it be better to allow a Dem governor to have to deal with this mess? Rauner has 2 more years, i believe, but is it worth it?

    Who has control of drawing legislative lines?

  217. Cash Cow TM says:

    the shooting at the ball field targeting Republican members of congress…

    nothing surprises Cow any more…we are continuing the devolvement into Latin American style society and anarchy…Sad abut the event…Sad that it does not cause a more shocked reaction in Cash Cow.
    _____________

    On an unrelated note, what was the size of the VA turnout percentage wise?

    I would look it up, but I am busy watching Walt clean the mold off the fan blades on the deck.

  218. NYCmike says:

    Why is there mold on the fan blades on the deck? Is it an indoor deck with no air circulation?

    WV is one crazy place!

  219. jason says:

    I would not be shocked if he was ready to shoot Democrats or Republicans and only asked because he was curious whom he would be killing.”

    I would be shocked if that was the case….

  220. jason says:

    WV is a lot more more modern than I thought. A ventilated deck?

    Of course I would have some fans too if the Bishop would allow it.

  221. Cash Cow TM says:

    NYC mike,

    Outdoor deck.
    Outdoor fan and blades.
    Outdoor mold.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Come down this way and we can have a cool one while we converse and ruminate about life and world events.

    Walt says his deck is always open and all are invited…except George Soros and Bubu.

  222. DW says:

    They finally hold a press conference and the FBI guy in charge has no answers to anything and doesn’t know anything yet. They have gotten much more out of the eyewitnesses they interviewed in the last two hours.

  223. DW says:

    FBI guy says too early to know if congress members were targeted.

    I guess the shooter was targeting squirrels and the members of congress got in the way.

  224. NYCmike says:

    Thanks Ca$h, that is a wonderful offer!

    Should I bring the Peter Luger sauce…….I mean I’ll bring some cannoli or some other dessert.

  225. DW says:

    that didn’t take long. VA Gov McAwful already politicizing it…and calling for grabbing guns from honest people so criminals like this can have freedom to massacre as many as possible.

    He didn’t quite say it that way, but that is the inevitable result of grabbing guns.

  226. Jonesy says:

    Jeff Flake was re-elected this morning. that race is now off the table. I do not like him politically, but he showed great poise this morning.

  227. Jonesy says:

    219. Rauner would have a veto in redistricting mike.

  228. Bitterlaw says:

    I saw a photo of the field. So sad to see gloves and helmets just lying there. I have always thought of my softball fields as my happy place (well, as happy as I ever get). There really is no safe place left and I guess there never was.

  229. Jonesy says:

    Not to be morbid, but how does this all effect GA-6?

  230. Jonesy says:

    Shooter is a 66 year old named James Hodgikson. He is originally from St Clair County, IL. A very deep blue area of Illinois.

    Domestic violence issues in past

  231. NYCmike says:

    Thanks for the answer Jonesy.

    You are a valuable “troll”, hopefully Robbie will come to recognize your other talents.

  232. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Congressman Brady could tell MSNCBC that the shooter was targeting Republicans. They don’t seem to know that yet.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/bob-brady-gop-baseball-shooting-congress-security-20170614.html

  233. Mr.Vito says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/14/house-dems-circle-up-to-pray-for-gopers-shot-at-baseball-practice/

    Apparently Democrats are still allowed to pray in public. No word on whether it was in Jesus name, or to the sacred earth mother.

  234. Jonesy says:

    LOL Mike. Robbie is sorting thru MSM and anti Trump twitter right now, to find evidence that the shooter was a Trump Voter.

    Good news is Cap Police are in good and stable condition

  235. Jonesy says:

    shooter’s facebook page, a collage of pro Bernie . A member of anti trump resistance

  236. Jonesy says:

    Supporter of Tom Periello and Hillary. Let’s see the MSM spin this

  237. Mr.Vito says:

    Pissed off by last nights results, huh?

  238. Phil says:

    Jonesy, they will spin it. They will have to bend themselves into a pretzel, but they will be spinning.

  239. Mr.Vito says:

    It is Trumps fault for making people so darn mad.

  240. Mr.Vito says:

    Freedom fighter killed storming racist baseball practice.

  241. Jonesy says:

    His twitter page is nasty. Calls for Revolution

  242. Bitterlaw says:

    Supporter of Tom Periello and Hillary. Let’s see the MSM spin this

    They won’t “spin” it. They just won’t report it.

  243. Mr.Vito says:

    Social activist killed by republicans armed with baseball bats.

  244. Jonesy says:

    Little Georgie S of ABC, was trying to say the guy just wanted to be shot by Cops for suicide.

    I hate Disney

  245. NYCmike says:

    Shooter figured since Trump could get away with shooting someone on Fifth Avenue, he could get away with this………plausible, as he is from Illinois, home of “CG”……

  246. Jonesy says:

    Fox News is reporting it, Bitterlaw

  247. lisab says:

    how could he have a gun in dc?

  248. NYCmike says:

    It was in Alexandria, VA, wasn’t it?

  249. lisab says:

    need more gun laws in va then

  250. DW says:

    So much for Bitter’s theory that he was just curious which party he was killing but didn’t really care either way.

  251. DW says:

    Breaking:

    Shooter James T. Hodgkinson had just attended the play depicting the assassination of Trump.

  252. DW says:

    255 – was a joke.

  253. NYCmike says:

    “need more gun laws in va then”

    -There should be a double secret ban on guns, yes indeedy!

  254. Phil says:

    Too bad the cap police stopped him so quickly. Had he killed 30 Republican congressmen Dems could have gained control of the House. Bummer.

  255. Phil says:

    The resistance lives!

  256. Bitterlaw says:

    So much for Bitter’s theory that he was just curious which party he was killing but didn’t really care either way.

    Zzzzzzzz. I said that it was possible. I did not say it was likely. GFY.

    You are today’s Favorite Evangelical.

  257. DW says:

    Apparently the shooter is dead.

    So the events of today have a happy ending. Domestic terrorist is dead and all his victims and intended victims are alive and will recover.

  258. DW says:

    of course had the shooter lived, then he would have answered questions that might prove embarrassing to the left and their allies in the media.

  259. DW says:

    the shooter was a super-fan of Rachel Maddow.

  260. Bitterlaw says:

    I am going to be consistent. We get angry when some loon kills people and then it turns out that he liked some Republican. We reject the notion that all Republicans should be blamed. Sometimes we just say he was crazy and not motivated by politics.

    I know that there are Democrats and leftists who hate Trump and Republicans and this scum was motivated by political hatred.but I am not going to jump from that to making this shooter a warning sign of a large movement of Democrat assassins.

  261. NYCmike says:

    “I am going to be consistent.”

    -Another reason MD always was the Head of the A-Holes.

  262. Mr.Vito says:

    The most important question is what flag he poses with in his pictures.

  263. Cash Cow TM says:

    Please to not refer to Rachel Maddow as Rachel MadCOW.

    It denigrates me.

    She is not any part of my clan.

  264. Cash Cow TM says:

    AGAIN I POSE THE QUESTION:

    WHY HAVE WE DEVOLVED INTO SUCH AN UNCIVIL SOCIETY?

    I am asking for an emergency meeting of the HHR policy team to find an answer.

  265. DW says:

    It is interesting to listen to all the calls for unity by those representatives interviewed today. They speak as though unity is possible. The problem is, there is one party representing voters and resident illegal aliens whose vision for America is that of a weak European-style Socialist state with huge taxes, few liberties, and government involvement in everything.

    Then there is another party whose vision is to slow the advance of the Socialist state.

    Then there is a large number of voters who don’t like either party because they want the Socialist state direction stopped and reversed.

    There is bound to be friction and unity is not possible.

  266. NYCmike says:

    “WHY HAVE WE DEVOLVED INTO SUCH AN UNCIVIL SOCIETY?”

    -Television.

  267. Cash Cow TM says:

    television

    love/sin tie

  268. Todd McCain says:

    There is no doubt this guy was a Bernie Sanders revolutionary who wanted to continue the revolution by killing republicans.

    But I agree with Bitter; have to be consistent and can’t generalize everyone that way despite the hate on the left.

  269. Bitterlaw says:

    WHY HAVE WE DEVOLVED INTO SUCH AN UNCIVIL SOCIETY?

    Because we let cows start posting on the internet. Once that happened, all hell broke loose.

  270. jason says:

    So much for Bitter’s theory that he was just curious which party he was killing but didn’t really care either way.”

    Yep, and I said I would be shocked if it turned out that way.

    I think things should be called what they are. Terrorists are terrorists, they are not “militants”. Islamic terrorists are, guess what, Islamic terrorists. And this guy was a Democrat bent on killing Republicans motivated by other Democrats inciting violence against Republicans.

    That is how I am “consitent”.

  271. jason says:

    There is nothing wrong with “politicizing” this. It WAS political. There is nothing “inconsistent” with calling this what it is, a politically motivated attack.

    Just because we criticize Democrats for politicizing things that shouldn’t be politicized, doesn’t mean they get off the hook for this.

  272. Bitterlaw says:

    We are in a downward spiral in terms of incivility and it just gets worse:

    Bill Clinton – Republicans hate him as a draft-dodging, pot smoking womanizer.

    George W. Bush – Democrats (and Wes) ratchet up the hatred for the person they see as an entitled, stupid person who was “selected, not elected” by the Supreme Court (Wes has never stated that the 2000 election was rigged).

    Barack Obama – A small group of Republicans and kooks take the hatred up a notch with the Birther nonsense and “closet Muslim” b.s. Anger over Obamacare and Executive Orders rages.

    Donald Trump – Further dissolution of unity as the “Resistance” see themselves as stopping the next Hitler.

    Why are things so bad? I think one reason is that because government has intruded more and more into our lives, our reaction to all politics is to take everything more personally.

  273. Bitterlaw says:

    So much for Bitter’s theory that he was just curious which party he was killing but didn’t really care either way.

    Jason apparently does not know the difference between a “possibility” and a “theory.” Qu’chua must not be able to differentiate the two words.

  274. jason says:

    And you don’t know the difference between possible and probable.

    Your theory was possible but not probable. GFY.

  275. jason says:

    And btw, I didn’t write that, I just copied it, with quote marks.

  276. jason says:

    Over at Kos they are fighting over whether this was a Berniebot or a Jill Stein voter.

    Evidently, if he was a Jill Stein supporter, they think the Dems are off the hook.

  277. Bitterlaw says:

    I wanted to say GFY to Jason in Qu’chua but there are 17 possible translations but 15 involve llamas and I don’t mean to say that.

  278. jason says:

    I wanted to say GFY to Jason”

    So much for Bitter’s call for civility.

  279. DW says:

    Bitterlaw says:

    June 14, 2017 at 10:20 am

    I would not be shocked if he was ready to shoot Democrats or Republicans and only asked because he was curious whom he would be killing.

    “theory”

    “possibility”

    Semantics.

    But honestly it reads more like a theory.

    Wiki: “A theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might, for example, include generalized explanations of how nature works”

    A “possibility” is much weaker. For instance it was ‘possible’ the shooter was Nancy Pelosi dressed up like a much younger 66 year old male, and this was her desperate attempt to regain her speakership. Possible but not a very good theory.

    The theory put forward by Bitter was a reasonable attempt to explain the shooter’s posture, but in the end, it was not the correct explanation.

  280. jason says:

    Too bad the cap police stopped him so quickly. Had he killed 30 Republican congressmen Dems could have gained control of the House. Bummer.”

    NYC would have had a field day. He would have supported 30 deadenders to replace them, 10 would have won the primaries and the GOP would have lost 10 seats.

    NYC would then say it was caused by “GOP inaction” and a message was sent and a story was told.

  281. jason says:

    The theory put forward by Bitter was a reasonable attempt ”

    Nah, it wasn’t reasonable. The odds that someone would ask if they were Rs or Ds before opening fire just out of curiosity were astronomically small. As were the odds that a random killer would pick a GOP gathering out of the hundreds of other sites he could have chosen

    Possible, yes. Reasonable, no.

  282. Waingro says:

    “Freedom fighter killed storming racist baseball practice.”

    I shouldn’t laugh at a time like this, but man was this hilarious, Vito.

  283. jason says:

    Trump to Republican senators: The House health-care bill was “mean”

    Shhhh, don’t tell NYC, but sounds like, horrors… a “moderate”.

  284. jason says:

    WHY HAVE WE DEVOLVED INTO SUCH AN UNCIVIL SOCIETY?

    I am asking for an emergency meeting of the HHR policy team to find an answer.”

    I am not sitting with anyone that doesn’t understand the cultural aspects of llama husbandry.

  285. Phil says:

    Jonah Goldberg with an article this morning describing how Trump will be impeached if Dems gain control of the House in 2018. We’ll, duh. In other news, the sun is hot….

    Wonder if Trump is smart enough to realize that. I am assuming he is, but not much he can do about it but get ready.

  286. NYCmike says:

    “NYC would then say it was caused by “GOP inaction” and a message was sent and a story was told.”

    -Nicely done!

  287. NYCmike says:

    You should have gotten the word “narrative” in there somewhere, as well as Founding Fathers.

  288. NYCmike says:

    https://thebadger14.wordpress.com/2017/06/11/christians/

    -Just for a different story, this is what is happening on the West Coast, yet the media ignores it.

    Imagine if the people being shouted down were Muslims, or black, or gay…..it would rightfully be national news.

  289. jason says:

    Got a tweet from Wobbie.

    He is very upset this shooting got in the way of all the anti-Trump stories he was salivating to post here, but this will die down and he will be back…he says there is evidence Trump meddled in the WH kitchen… breaking…

  290. jason says:

    -Nicely done!
    NYCmike says:
    June 14, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    You should have gotten the word “narrative” in there somewhere, as well as Founding Fathers.”

    Nicely done implies it is good already. GFY.

  291. Phil says:

    Leaks indicating Trump manipulated the WH menu. What did the president have substituted for lunch and when did he know it.

  292. NYCmike says:

    “Nicely done implies it is good already. GFY.”

    -We were speaking about “deadenders”……purity and perfection are demanded, or else “No Vote For You!”.

  293. Diamond Jim says:

    CCC

  294. NYCmike says:

    CCC

  295. NYCmike says:

    Moxie-d again!

  296. Wes says:

    Since the shooter was a Berniebot who hated Republicans, wouldn’t today’s tragedy by definition be a hate crime?

  297. Wes says:

    I wonder if the Left will tone down its demagogic rhetoric now.

    What am I saying?

    The Left will tone its rhetoric down after Corey loses his virginity by banging Alice Braga.

  298. jason says:

    Where is Proud ObamaCON?

    “According to Hodgkinson’s Facebook page, he is a member of numerous left-leaning online groups, including The Road To Hell Is Paved With Republicans; Rachel Maddow For President 2020; Sanders For President 2020; Terminate The Republican Party; and Donald Trump is not my President.”

  299. jason says:

    If anyone doubted this guy is real scum…

    “We need to do more to protect all of our citizens,” said McAuliffe. “There are too many guns on the street. We lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence. I’ve long talked about this; background checks, shutting down gun-show loopholes. That’s not for today’s discussion, but it’s not just about politicians, we worry about this every day for all of our citizens.”

    “If it’s not the day for it, why are you bringing it up?” pressed one reporter.”

    Oh, and most of us have at most 3 days left….

  300. Wes says:

    I wonder what Northam and Gillespie will say about the shooting. I imagine MSNBC will put a Ha nnibal mask on Sh arpton and lock him in a padded cell for a few weeks.

  301. jason says:

    I wonder if they will dispute the 93 million a day figure….

  302. Phil says:

    304
    Never mind about that, Wes. What time is the next performance of stab a Trump? I’m in the mood for some more leftist “art”.

  303. Phil says:

    93 million. Yeah, that sounds about right.

  304. Wes says:

    93 million a day, huh?

    That means by Saturday, we’ll have about 30 million Americans left, and by Sunday, the Russians will claim a depopulated US land mass for their own.

  305. Mr.Vito says:

    If Trump said 93 million a day, Pelosi would be on TV questioning President Bush’s mental health again.

  306. Wes says:

    NoVA is the focus of a swell of gun control demands in VA. I bet the rest of the Commonwealth will take the opposite stance.

  307. Wes says:

    Let’s see…

    The Left made an unreleased movie about the assassination of GWB and produced a play with Trump as Julius Caesar.

    No, no incitement to violence against Republicans from the Left…

  308. Waingro says:

    n/t

  309. GA Voter says:

    The shooter mocked Handel on his facebook page. This might not bode well for Ossoff with the 6% undecided. Folks uneasy might stay home or vote for the GOP which generally is stronger on crime and pro carry.

  310. Redmen4ever says:

    93 million people killed per day

    No matter how bad you though Obama was, things have gone downhill fast under Trump.