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One Poll Has Ossoff Up 2%, Another Has Handel up 1% in GA

WSB and Landmark Communications’s latest poll in Georgia shows Jon Ossoff with a 2% lead over Karen Handel, one percentage point closer than their last poll.

US HOUSE – GEORGIA – CD6 RUNOFF (WSB/Landmark)
Jon Ossoff (D) 50%
Karen Handel (R) 48%

This poll was done June 15th among 800 likely voters. Meanwhile, yet another polling outfit I have never heard of until now, CSP Polling, is out with a poll claiming it is Karen Handel with a 1% lead.

US HOUSE – GEORGIA – CD6 RUNOFF (CSP)
Karen Handel (R) 49%
Jon Ossoff (D) 48%

This poll was done June 15-17 among 571 likely voters. Interestingly the latest blog post this polling firm has on their website is about how badly they botched their polling in the just completed Virginia gubernatorial primary where they said Tom Periello was going to win by 5% before he ended up losing by double digits. Something to take into account in this latest poll.

Posted by Dave at 8:25 pm
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235 Responses to “One Poll Has Ossoff Up 2%, Another Has Handel up 1% in GA”

  1. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    one

  2. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As am first poster, my prediction in Georgia CD6 is the race is too close to call.

  3. Phil says:

    All about turnout. That will tell the tale.

    As I suspected we won’t have nearly the gap as last time in the early vs election day vote. Ossoff won’t get anywhere near the early vote 67% number he had last time and Republicans will not win election day by the percentage they got last time.

  4. william says:

    Handel needs to win election day vote by 15 points to win. Based on polling data, I think she does and wins by 51-49 margin

  5. biomom says:

    Garbage in, garbage out. Polls recently should be disregarded.too many examples to state.

  6. JC says:

    I know I’m biased, but my gut tells me Handel will win. I feel far more optimistic than a week ago.

  7. Florida Republican says:

    I think Handel is in trouble but that she will also prevail by 1-4%. GOP trnout machine is exact opposite of where it was in 2012. It’s a killing machine.

    RNC will spend next 36 hours calling Pubs.

  8. Phil says:

    Well, the good news is we haven’t seen any 50-44 Ossoff polls in the last month. I think there were a couple of those four to six weeks ago.

  9. Tina says:

    Phil, where do tou see it?

  10. Phil says:

    I think Handel hangs on with 50 to 51 percent in a squeaker, Tina.

  11. Trump says:

    Don’t worry everyone. The driver in London just lost control of his car. Nothing to see here!

  12. DW says:

    Don’t forget Landmark is as left leaning as they come. They alone kept saying Nunn would beat Perdue, and we know how that turned out.

    If they say Ossoff is up only two, he is sure to lose by 4.

  13. Tina says:

    Thanks, phil. I see it that way too.

  14. ProgressiveCT says:

    Check out https://ready2vote.com/ where there are blogs and analysis on races that fly under the radar.

  15. Hugh says:

    4+ win. The EV says it all. I sure hope I’m right

  16. Cash Cow TM says:

    GA CD race

    Cow is almost done crunching numbers on the COWculator.

    Le’s see, add this and that, carry the tens column, subtract MSM lies and fake polls…OK!

    Cow head says Ossoff will win.
    Cow heart says Handel will win.
    I think London whackaddodle terrorists helped Handel.

    Lot can happen between now and election day.
    –How many of the 4 debates have they completed?
    –how will the illegal shake out?

    The best-est scenario is that Ossoff loses by one vote, all because he cannot vote in the district since he acknowledges he does not live in the district.

    My numbers show it is a big cow pile.
    **************************************
    OH, and there will be discord and controversy following the election….

  17. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “USA SHOOTS DOWN SYRIAN AIRCRAFT
    FIRST TIME”

    Who shot it down the second time?

  18. Cash Cow TM says:

    does Big Joe live in the that CD in GA?

  19. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have no bovine sources in that GA CD.

    Too urban.
    No cow herds.

  20. Big Joe says:

    Cash,

    CD-6 is my neighboring district. The TV is blanketed with ads. I’ll be glad when its over!

    The ads are not that good either.

    Big Joe

  21. Wes says:

    My final prediction is 51-49 Handel.

    She gets in her own way too much to win big. (Sorry, Hugh, but Handel needed to run a significantly better campaign than she has to win by 4+.)

    Still, recent events have boosted her. She wins narrowly, but had she been a better candidate she would have won decisively.

  22. Todd McCain says:

    I am fine with just a win….a GOP win by any margin demoralizes the DEMS completely.

  23. PresidentPaul! says:

    Senators gets Russian fever

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politics/russia-sanctions-senate-trump/index.html

    Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders were the only two senators to vote against new sanctions against Russia. The vote was 98-2.

  24. NYCmike says:

    Republican Senators are going after Russia with sanctions, yet have not had any hearings with the spy agencies having to answer for their extremely lackadaisical approach to keeping secrets and being mindful of hacking attempts.

    Jeanine Pirro’s rant about the “Evil Establishment” and Congressional Republicans seems to be based more in TRUTH than hyperbole.

  25. NYCmike says:

    Just seeing some things from last thread, and this example is exactly why I wait to make my own decision about events:

    Robbie says:
    My current electoral vote count has Clinton winning 374-164. Here’s how I get there:

    – Clinton wins all of the Obama 2012 states
    – Clinton snags GA, AR, and NC
    – Clinton wins 1 electoral vote from NE
    – Trump wins 1 electoral vote from ME

    http://www.270towin.com/maps/jAQ9m

    Obviously, this can change in the last three weeks, but my May 5 map had it 384-154 for Clinton. I thought she might win MO as well.

    If the map does change, I expect it to more further in Clinton’s direction. Trump could easily lose UT and, given that ID is a lot like UT, maybe ID is an election day surprise. Also, IN is no gimmie for Trump. He’ll probably win there, but it’s not the ruby red state most assume.”

  26. NYCmike says:

    It does not matter WHEN it was from, October or May.

    The simple fact is this: we are a divided nation, with certain states to be slam-dunks for either side, and then with certain states to be close, but most of them are pretty steady as well.

    YES, a Democrat like Obama, who is able to fool the squishy “independents” and R-INO-epublicans will win more states and hold Romney/McCain to 206 or less, but he is a twice in a lifetime person (along w/ Bubba), that can’t be easily replicated (we hope).

    Always recognize the media has an agenda.

    Until you do, you will post incorrect information minutes after it is broadcast by leftist “reporters”, thereby looking foolish repeatedly.

  27. Bitterlaw says:

    My wife and I went to the U2 concert in Philadelphia last night. Great show. Bono made a plea for AIDSD funding and even praised GWB. Bono is a liberal I can respect because he raises millions and gives his own money, too.

  28. Tina says:

    It is all smoke and mirrors, ny. I want to know specificalky what russia did to interfere with our elections. Mcamnesty et al just keep repeating it over and over. Well he lied about iraq, syria, and libya. They need to look at who ,is crowd strike and why the fbi never seized the evidence of the crime scene, the dnc hq.

    Also, no warnings to the sos throughtout the nation.

    Color me skeptical, but still open to hearing more.

  29. Tina says:

    And yes if they did, samcrion them accordingly.

    Where the russian collusion ended up going into, trump russian ties, is especially weak. No ties at all. Comedy said the same thing as did senators feinstein and grassley.

  30. DW says:

    Lets break down Robbie’s prediction:

    Robbie says:
    “My current electoral vote count has Clinton winning 374-164. Here’s how I get there:”

    Final tally: Trump wins 306 to 232 (forgetting the faithless elector junk)

    “– Clinton wins all of the Obama 2012 states”

    Wrong on these states:
    WI: 47/46 for Trump
    MI: 48/47 for Trump
    PA: 48/47 for Trump
    FL: 49/48 for Trump
    IA: 51/42 for Trump
    OH: 52/44 for Trump

    “– Clinton snags GA, AR, and NC”

    Wrong, wrong, and wrong:

    GA: 51/46 for Trump
    AR: 61/34 for Trump (!)
    NC: 50/46 for Trump

    – Clinton wins 1 electoral vote from NE

    Wrong:
    NE_02: 47/45 for Trump

    – Trump wins 1 electoral vote from ME

    CORRECT – ROBBIE NAILED IT!!!

    “Obviously, this can change in the last three weeks, but my May 5 map had it 384-154 for Clinton. I thought she might win MO as well.”

    GOOD CALL to move MO out of Clinton’s column. Trump held on to win MO just 57 to 38.

    “If the map does change, I expect it to more further in Clinton’s direction. Trump could easily lose UT and, given that ID is a lot like UT, maybe ID is an election day surprise.”

    Wrong, and badly wrong:
    UT: 46/27 for Trump
    ID: 59/27 for Trump (!)

    “Also, IN is no gimmie for Trump. He’ll probably win there, but it’s not the ruby red state most assume.”

    Wrong again:
    IN: 57/38 for Trump.

  31. DW says:

    “– Clinton snags GA, AR, and NC”

    It occurs to me that Robbie might have meant Arizona (AZ) rather than Arkansas (AR), as I can think of no logical explanation why anyone would have predicted Clinton would win AR.

  32. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Nice to hear.

    I just saw 10,000 Maniacs. People in the audience were surprised that Natalie Merchant didn’t show up.

    That was the best part of the show……well, the cover of a Cure song they did was pretty good as well.

    I should also say that the meal and the wine, although expensive, was quite good as well. Any night alone with my wife, and the other strangers at our communal table, is a good one!

  33. NYCmike says:

    76’ers to trade for another 1st pick of the draft?

    What could go wrong?

  34. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t care if Natalie Merchant is a flaming leftist. She has a great voice. 9,999 Maniacs without her can’t be as good as 10,000 Maniacs with her.

  35. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I see a misdiagnosed foot injury for the Sixers’ first pick.

  36. Tina says:

    Indiana? Lol.

  37. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue” @NolteNC
    ·
    16h

    When the Washington Post doesn’t lie — that will be News.

  38. Todd McCain says:

    Seems to me that COBB county is going to dominate the Election Day vote and that is Handel’s stronghold.

  39. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #40- TM
    Most definitely!

  40. DW says:

    one of the more interesting charts on the wiki article concerning the 2016 election:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Presidential_Election_Results_Swing_by_State_from_2012_to_2016.svg

  41. Tina says:

    Muh russia is finished now.

    I am glad we wont be reading any ore wp unnamed sources stories.

  42. JC says:

    Not scientific.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/oops-70-cnn-poll-say-trump-not-investigated-obstruction-justice/

    Jebots to cry.
    ——————

    Trump should tweet about it anyway (and not mention it’s an internet poll).

    It would drive liberals even more insane with rage. 🙂

  43. Tina says:

    I think it is clear that mueller is looking at leaks and illegal wiretapping now. Thst is all that remains on the table.

  44. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Schiff for Brains admits no trump Russian collusion.

    11 months of investigations and no ties.

  45. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    ·
    3m

    I have criticized Mueller for leaking but there is a chance he has not leaked at all. It appears WAPO is simply making things up.

    The unnammed sources are former obama officials.

  46. Tina says:

    Disregard the flynn story. It was from january., but linked to,a tweet by a news reporter today, 6/19.

  47. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Fulton County, GA just updated its early vote total from 80,000 to 86,200. That brings all early vote totals from 140,000 to 146,000.
    Is Fulton County a good one for Handel?

    http://fultoncountyga.gov/images/stories/RAE/2017/2017_Special_Election_6th_Congressional_Runoff_Election6-16.pdf

  48. Bitterlaw says:

    Disregard the flynn story.

    Damn. Even Tina posts fake news.

  49. Todd McCain says:

    Fulton split 52-48 for Handel I believe.

  50. Todd McCain says:

    Either way it is obvious that the GOP brought in a significant amount of early voters. As long as she wins Election Day strongly, I don’t see how she loses.

  51. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #52
    I know it gave 62% to Tom Price in 2016. Did Trump carry it in 2016?

  52. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    TM
    I also read that Ralph Reed has been “whipping” the Christian vote in Fulton County for this race.

  53. Barrett says:

    I would put odds of winning at 2-1 in favor of Handel

  54. JC says:

    Todd McCain says:
    June 19, 2017 at 9:34 am

    Seems to me that COBB county is going to dominate the Election Day vote and that is Handel’s stronghold.
    —————

    That’s what I’m hoping for, since the EV in that county was so low. Hopefully that was only the case because there were only two voting stations open there (according to Sheeple, Jr), whereas other places had like five or six.

    If so, that bodes very well for Handel. The early vote numbers already look good for her. I’ve been messing around with the numbers, and even in the rosiest scenario for Ossoff (15% GOP crossover support and 70% of ‘no party’), Handel still remains within ~10-15k votes of him.

    If so, then she would need to win about 57-60% of the election day vote with a 90-100k turnout. Both of those things seem very doable, especially with Cobb having very little early voters.

    And keep in mind, this is Ossoff’s rosiest picture and the race is still a razor-thin tossup. I don’t actually believe he will nab 70% of ‘no party’ voters – He will probably be closer to 60% than 70%. And I doubt he’ll get 15% of GOP support – more likely 10-12%. If so, then Handel only needs to nab about 55% of the election day vote to win.

    Of course, that all assuming that Cobb county had low early vote turnout due to a lack of polling places, rather than a lack of enthusiasm. We’ll find out tomorrow.

  55. Tina says:

    Yeah, bl, but immediately corrected. Even though in this case, he 1/19 story was mentioned by other news outlets.

  56. Tina says:

    It looks like she could win by more than 2. Perhaps as high as 6?

  57. GPO says:

    Tina isn’t that article from January?

  58. DW says:

    Media reaction to the election in Georgia:

    Ossoff wins: This is the most important election in US history and is a complete repudiation of Mr. Trump and will touch off a wave of house GOP retirements to avoid the landslide defeats coming in November 2018 when Speaker Pelosi gets her gavel back.

    Handel wins: This was expected as it is a red district where the Republicans were always favored to win; however, the close margin suggests trouble coming for the GOP in the congressional races in 2018.

  59. Tina says:

    Gpo, yes, see correction further below. It was linked in a twet.

  60. Phil says:

    DW, absolutely the way the MSM spins it. No doubt whatsoever.

  61. NYCmike says:

    When is the GA-6 election? Tomorrow?

  62. DW says:

    I suppose I should amend the media reaction for three scenarios:

    Media reaction to the election in Georgia:

    Ossoff wins: This is the most important election in US history and is a complete repudiation of Mr. Trump and will touch off a wave of house GOP retirements to avoid the landslide defeats coming in November 2018 when Speaker Pelosi gets her gavel back.

    Handel wins by a small margin: This was expected as it is a red district where the Republicans were always favored to win; however, the close margin suggests trouble coming for the GOP in the congressional races in 2018.

    Handel wins by a strong margin: In other news, we turn to new allegations by anonymous sources that black Russian helicopters were seen on election day in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

  63. Tina says:

    Handel wins by a strong margin: In other news, we turn to new allegations by anonymous sources that black Russian helicopters were seen on election day in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

    Yes, if course, six unnamed sources from the wp. Jebot to post it.

  64. Phil says:

    So Fulton County with the most registered votes in the district actually now has an early vote greater than their entire first round total vote.

    Question is, what is the mix of all these new voters? Seems someone needs to compare the Democratic Republican numbers of Fulton County first round early voters with the Democratic Republican numbers of Fulton County second round early voters. That will tell you a bunch.

    The total Partisan district wide early voter numbers are available so I assume someone has those numbers broken down by County.

  65. DW says:

    No word yet from the anonymous source if the black Russian helicopter was piloted by Elvis, Big-foot, or space aliens detained from Roswell.

  66. Tina says:

    Jebot is a pilot.

  67. Cash Cow TM says:

    Thanks Big Joe.

    Didn’t the candidates agree to do 4 debates?

    How did Handel and Ossoff do in the debates?

    Did the debates move any needles in the haystack?

  68. janz says:

    #64. Yes, the GA election is tomorrow.

    My predictions are not that good. However, instinctively I think Handel will win – first because R’s seem to couch their votes more, not revealing them to pollsters. And, second because of the violence (here & abroad) that would sway votes away from a newbie like Osoff and more towards the predictability of a Handel candidate.

  69. janz says:

    #65. I like the takeaways from the three possible scenarios you set up. Basically, no matter what happens in GA tomorrow it will reported by the MSM in the best possible light for the dems!

  70. Robbie says:

    This is good news from GA6. Seems like it’s going to be razor close.

    Josh Kraushaar?
    @HotlineJosh 18s
    19 seconds ago

    Latest #GA06 number-crunching: GOP confident it’s turning out core voters that didn’t show up in 1st round.

  71. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 19, 2017 at 9:07 am
    “– Clinton snags GA, AR, and NC”
    It occurs to me that Robbie might have meant Arizona (AZ) rather than Arkansas (AR), as I can think of no logical explanation why anyone would have predicted Clinton would win AR.

    – Yes, that was the case. I seem to remember that comment and then correcting it later as a mistake. As dour as I was about Trump, there was NO WAY I would ever predict Clinton would win Arkansas. Arizona ended up as a 3 point race, right?

  72. Robbie says:

    DW

    I don’t really want to go down this HHR rabbit hole again, but that map was my first look/guess in May right after Trump locked up the nomination. In the lead up to that, Clinton had led Trump by as many as 10 points in April.

    My final prediction made on November 7, 2016 was Clinton at 323. That was significantly smaller than my first guess 6 months earlier, but it was still quite wrong.

  73. Redmen4ever says:

    US shoots down Syrian plane to MAKE IT APPEAR that Trump isn’t a stooge of Putin, which any fool can see actually is the final nail in the coffin proving Trump-Russian collusion.

    Except, the Sicilian in me, suspects that Trump has been leaking all the Trump-Russian collusion to the media in the first place, to lull Putin into complacency, so Trump could shoot the Syrian plane down in the second place.

    On the other hand, maybe Trump is signaling to Putin that he is so confident of their relationship that he could shoot down a Syrian plane in the middle of Madison Avenue, and they’d still be BFF.

  74. DW says:

    74 – ok, that’s what I thought. When I looked at it again, I recalled the three-fold red to blue flips that were expected within the Clinton camp were GA, AZ and NC.

    And when NC fell into Trump’s column, the leftist media knew there would be no flips in Hillary’s direction and the election was all but over. Its when Chris Matthews was heard uttering into a live mic, “well that’s a b1tch.”

  75. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m throwing the penalty flag. I don’t think that any body at HHR (with the possible exception of Albert Hodges) predicted that Trump would win. There are good reasons to bash people here but the 2016 Presidential predictions is not a good reason.

  76. lisab says:

    – Yes, that was the case. I seem to remember that comment and then correcting it later as a mistake. As dour as I was about Trump, there was NO WAY I would ever predict Clinton would win Arkansas. Arizona ended up as a 3 point race, right?
    ——————–
    but idaho and utah were going to be squeakers?

  77. Phil says:

    To be fair, although Robbie’s final Hillary 320 electoral vote prediction was off it wouldn’t have been far from mine. I just didn’t happen to post anything.g I figured Trump would get Romney’s states plus Ohio and Iowa. That would have gotten her to over 300 I believe. I just didn’t think he’d get Florida and that the Midwest blue wall would collapse.

  78. DW says:

    78 – I was wrong too, and as you said, almost everyone was wrong, and for the most part the Trump-bots had gone into hiding days before the election expecting their predictions to go up in flames.

    I suppose we could argue about the extent to which everyone was wrong, but it is pointless.

    The canary in Hillary’s coal mine was the Des Moines Iowa poll a week before the election.

    It told us with certainty that Trump would win Iowa going away, and beyond that, it said to look out for tight races throughout the upper mid-west.

    Hillary didn’t look out.

  79. Phil says:

    Yeah, the Iowa poll the weekend before the election showing Trump up 9 should have been a big tip off.

  80. Tina says:

    Stocks hit new highs.

    Hhr revisting the 2016 Election, the lowest point for the blog. Reflection and revisionist history going on.

    Hhr more optimistic that handel has it

    No posts on unnamed sources.

  81. Tina says:

    I commented that we had florida, ohio, iowa, and nc.

    I was on ir for most of the summer, early fall of 2916 and returned a week out,

  82. Tina says:

    *2016

  83. Tina says:

    We can all claim that her thighness was in trouble a month before since biden indicated this.

    Fault was hers and not the russians.

  84. Tina says:

    I want to read the posts over the following topics from last year

    Hillary collapsing on 9/11

    P gate

    Second debate.

  85. Todd McCain says:

    I didn’t have him winning either but I didn’t have it a Clinton blow out. How certain people acted here before and afterward was just childish, however.

  86. Todd McCain says:

    Anyone been following this Laura Loomer and Jack Posobiec stuff at the theatre?

  87. Tina says:

    The paly is stupid and their actions are stupid too.

  88. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    June 19, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    I’m throwing the penalty flag. I don’t think that any body at HHR (with the possible exception of Albert Hodges) predicted that Trump would win. There are good reasons to bash people here but the 2016 Presidential predictions is not a good reason.
    —————————-

    False!

    Ten people (out of 50) predicted a Trump win. http://davidwissing.com/?p=24461

    Myself, Donald R. McClarey, NYCmike, dblaikie, Joe J, AlbertHodges, Gil, BayernFan, Pitchaboy, and TheClassicalLiberal

    Gil got the closest:

    Gil says:
    November 7, 2016 at 10:31 am

    EV
    Trump – 304
    Hildebeast – 234

    Senate 53 R – 47 D
    House R 234 D 201

  89. DW says:

    90, speaking of paly, it reminded me of a sign I saw once, indicating the decline of our civilization. A public school ordered a professional sign–you know the kind that are metal with reflective light features and clear-coat finish and so on.

    The sign read “Fields for student use only. No adult paly.”

    The sign was received by someone at the public school…and a worker hung the sign in a prominent location and apparently no one ever noticed it read paly instead of play.

  90. lisab says:

    I don’t really want to go down this HHR rabbit hole again, but that map was my first look/guess in May right after Trump locked up the nomination. In the lead up to that, Clinton had led Trump by as many as 10 points in April.
    ———————

    may?!!!!! ?

    guess again …. you did not predict hillary was going to get 374 evs in may …

    i’ll do you a solid … it was not before may either … lol

  91. lisab says:

    bitterlaw,

    what a coincidence … i was at the iam concert last night …

    it was great!

  92. lisab says:

    Je danse le MIA
    Hey DJ mets nous donc du Funk, que je danse le MIA
    Je danse le MIA
    Fait pousser le Pioneer à fond qu’on danse le MIA
    Je danse le MIA
    Ce soir les bagues brilleront, on danse le MIA
    Je danse le MIA
    Hey DJ met nous donc du Funk, je danse le MIA

  93. Tina says:

    Mayhems kelly interview of loon took in only 3.5 milliom viewers.

    She will be canceled soon, if her rarings weaken

  94. Tina says:

    Mayhem can fo back to faux news.

  95. GPO says:

    I say Handel wins based solely on the fact that they have only made 1 passing reference to the race on CNBC today

  96. Diamond Jim says:

    C

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    bitterlaw,
    what a coincidence … i was at the iam concert last night …
    it was great!

    We were on the field. There was a thin woman who had really bad dance moves. Was that you?

  98. Bitterlaw says:

    Are you still in Philadelphia?

  99. Bitterlaw says:

    JC – I was wrong. Zzzzzz. I wonder why only you, NYC and BF continue to post here. Pitch stops by very rarely.

  100. DW says:

    “There are no words for these people.”

    How about these words: “Pelley is scum”?

    maybe ‘low-grade scum’?

  101. DW says:

    I hope Scalise gets well soon and returns to the house floor and reads to the members in the chamber some of the hate-filled left-wing loon comments about him being partly to blame for the assassination attempt–and then say if any of them get nearly shot to death and have a bullet tear apart their internal organs leaving them writhing in pain and facing half a dozen surgeries, that Steve Scalise wishes them a speedy recovery, that they are a victim and not at fault for getting shot.

  102. Tina says:

    Dw, hope he gets well too. Very sad.

  103. Blobbie says:

    Are you still in Philadelphia?
    ———–_—
    the iam concert was in Montreal

    gf got married this weekend

    and I had great dance moves

  104. BayernFan says:

    Scalise will be rehabbing a LOOOOOONG time. Can you imagine having your hip destroyed and needing multiple surgeries? When I broke one ankle 18 months ago I was unable to go anywhere or do most things without someone’s help. So much of my usual day to day behaviour was off the table. It was very depressing and took some new mental toughness to deal with and get through. I can’t imagine what Scalise is going to go through.

  105. DW says:

    Nothing today on Scalise, but here was the official statement from yesterday:

    [[On Friday, the hospital’s director of trauma, Dr. Jack Sava, called Scalise’s injury a “transpelvic gunshot wound” which had “fragmented, and caused significant damage to bones, internal organs and blood vessels.”

    He continued:

    “[Scalise] will require additional operations to manage abdominal injuries and other broken bones. He will be in the hospital for some time. Predicting the length of that hospital stay will be much easier after a few more days have passed. After discharge he will need a period of healing and rehabilitation.”]]

    Others involved:

    Crystal Griner – still hospitalized in good condition

    Matt Mika – another operation, but expected to fully recover.

    Zach Barth – expected to fully recover

    James T. Hodgkinson – Still dead.

  106. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I thought Karen Handel resided in Cobb County. That is incorrect. She is a resident of Fulton County, which has had a robust turnout in the early vote. Is this a good sign? Ossoff is from Dekalb.

  107. Blobbie says:

    my favorite phrase …

    mon nom? je m’appelle madame touchmeanddie.

  108. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Finally, a poll of tomorrow’s Congressional race in SC-5. Norman(R) is +9 is an R+9 district.

    https://medium.com/@ChngRsrch/norman-leads-by-9-on-the-eve-of-south-carolina-5th-district-special-election-fc736c536bc8

  109. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #119
    Should add: Ossoff is from Dekalb, but outside the GA-6 district line.

  110. NYCmike says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 19, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    #119

    -More importantly, what will the stock market look like in 6 months?

  111. Tina says:

    Muh rasmussen.

    Jebot claims that they are fake.

  112. GPO says:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/justice-kennedys-beauty-pageant/530790/

    If true , this point blows

    To begin with, it is not clear how much longer Kennedy will remain on the Court (though the Court’s grant in Gill signals he is likely to stay on the Court through next term and be the deciding vote).

  113. DW says:

    Its been a pretty rough 6 and a half months for Democrats. Hillary shockingly lost. They have lost all the special elections since. They have a Bernie-bot attempt to wipe out a dozen Republicans, but he turns out to be a bad shot and is the only one killed–shot by a woman, who happens to be a black lesbian.

  114. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 19, 2017 at 4:04 pm
    Muh rasmussen.
    Jebot claims that they are fake.

    – I never said Rasmussen was fake. I just don’t think their product is very good. For instance, Trump went from a 43% approval to 50% in just THREE days. And now, Trump’s approval rating has gone from 50% to 48% in just one day. That’s not rational/explainable movement. That spike had all the making of a statistical blip.

  115. Robbie says:

    Looks like the deadenders may have a future candidate to support.

    FoxNews’ Eric Bolling says he wants to challenge a sitting Republican Senator in the South in the near future.

    What a dunce.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/19/eric-bolling-fox-news-senate-race-239647

  116. Tina says:

    Dw,

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2017/06/19/nbc-abc-adopt-dem-talking-points-hype-georgia-special-election

    They are hyping ga 6 as a referendum.

    Lol, when they lose what will the excuse be? Macaroni 2.0 blew a 7 point oead?

  117. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Uh Oh, Ossoff(D) in GA-6! The Trafalgar Group,which had Ossoff +2 last week,has handel +2 now!

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4lhKxf9pMitSUE2X2ItLWhoYVU/view

  118. NYCmike says:

    What if his target is Ted Cruz??

  119. Tina says:

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kevin-baker/2017/06/19/morning-mika-political-climate-president-fueling-fire

    Yup, he is telling people to shoot drats.

    Joe mika scarfarce is a waste. Scarfarce was always a phony R.

  120. Tina says:

    It is clear she should win by a few, and it could be 6. The flood gate is open, so off campaigned poorly, two weeks of muh russian hearings with comedy and sessions, and the shooting.

    $40 plus million wasted.

  121. DW says:

    122 – of course they were alone in getting all the individual states right in 2016.

  122. Tina says:

    But Joe Mika Scarfarce has republican sources. No ody takls to that guy, but he has his sources.

  123. Tina says:

    It is rasmussen and trafalgar, u til proven otherwise. I also like ibd.

    The rest is sheot.

  124. DW says:

    125 – that reminds me…revising my earlier post:

    Its been a pretty rough 6 and a half months for Democrats. Hillary shockingly lost. They blew through millions of dollars in futile attempts at contesting the results. They have lost all the special elections since–again wasting millions more. They have a Bernie-bot attempt to wipe out a dozen Republicans, but he turns out to be a bad shot and is the only one killed–shot by a woman, who happens to be a black lesbian.

    If O$$off loses tomorrow to add to the pile…

  125. Tina says:

    Looks like the rs will now assume governing. Look for a health care bill by the senate to be voted on by 7/4. They need to keep pushing and no let up.

    I wish trump would strip all executive orders issued by the obumbler.

    That woukd trigger certain people.

  126. Tina says:

    $6 million montana

    $40 miilion ga. 6.

    They are spending that sf dot.com uh dot.bust $$$.

  127. Tina says:

    President trump meeting wi the panama president.

    Still disgusts me that carter handed it to them.

  128. Tina says:

    Re, panama canal.

  129. Tina says:

    The hostage released from nk last week has died.

  130. Tina says:

    Breaking News: Otto Warmbier, who was held prisoner in North Korea for 17 months before coming home last week, has died, his family said.
    4 minutes ago · Twitter

  131. Chicon says:

    Robbie, let me help you with LisaB’s riddle. The post in question is from 3 weeks prior to the election, assuming you were correct on the then-current date when you said a lot can change in the last three weeks…..

    So, apparently you noticed a big Trump wave in the final three weeks…

  132. Jonesy says:

    135. RIP Otto

  133. Chicon says:

    119 – I assume that 2 points is within the margin of error. Which is a pretty rational explanation in my book.

  134. Chicon says:

    Sad news on Otto. I’m glad he got home first, and that his family got to see him.

  135. BayernFan says:

    He was probably put down to harvest his organs

  136. DW says:

    139 – or what was left of him. Any speculation on what NK did to him? Human experiments? Maybe testing suffocation to see how far they can go and still bring the person back?

  137. Tina says:

    He lost most of his brain. It was not botulism which would not cause a coma. Likely a cardio event.

  138. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell Retweeted

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    29m

    Karen Handel’s opponent in #GA06 can’t even vote in the district he wants to represent….

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    27m

    Replying to @realDonaldTrump
    ….because he doesn’t even live there! He wants to raise taxes and kill healthcare. On Tuesday, #VoteKarenHandel.

  139. BayernFan says:

    Suffocation/resuscitation which went too far

    or drugs causing respiratory arrest

    or he did have botulism which caused respiratory arrest

  140. BayernFan says:

    Botulism does cause respiratory arrest due to muscle weakness

  141. Tina says:

    POLITICO @politico
    ·
    1h

    Sean Spicer is searching for candidates to take over the White House press briefing

    Yes, he is personalky searching.

    Fake News.

  142. DW says:

    CBS’s Scott Pelley:

    Otto was partly to blame because he went to North Korea in the first place.

  143. DW says:

    CBS’s Scott Pelley:

    Lincoln is partly to blame because he had a weakness for attending plays.

  144. DW says:

    CBS’s Scott Pelley:

    JFK is partly to blame because he shouldn’t have allowed riding in a convertible.

  145. biomom says:

    124: I agree. He sold his soul for favor with the elites in the left and media.

  146. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2017 at 4:34 pm
    What if his target is Ted Cruz??

    – Bolling’s dumb, but not that dumb. My guess is he wants to take on Rubio. He has made it clear on his various Fox shows he doesn’t like him.

  147. lisab says:

    Robbie, let me help you with LisaB’s riddle. The post in question is from 3 weeks prior to the election, assuming you were correct on the then-current date when you said a lot can change in the last three weeks…..
    ————

    but … but … he said there was a big upside for hillary going into the election …

    what about idaho?

    recount!

  148. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2017 at 4:47 pm
    Robbie, let me help you with LisaB’s riddle. The post in question is from 3 weeks prior to the election, assuming you were correct on the then-current date when you said a lot can change in the last three weeks…..
    So, apparently you noticed a big Trump wave in the final three weeks…

    – Wow. So right after the Access Hollywood tape fallout and the numerous elected Republicans who called on Trump to quit the race, I thought he might be beaten in a landslide.

  149. Chicon says:

    152 – either would be dumb. Imo, Bolling is indeed dumb enough…

  150. lisab says:

    well … in fairness you said that he would do better than your prior prediction …

    which was 384 evs for clinton

  151. Chicon says:

    Just helping you with the facts, Robbie, so you can adjust your “May” story.

  152. DW says:

    CBS’s Scott Pelley:

    Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims were partly to blame for delivering pizza to his house when he was hungrier than a large 16 inch could satisfy.

  153. Robbie says:

    This is what I love about HHR. My official prediction the day before the election was Clinton at 323 electoral votes. All of the other projections, whether in May or July, or September, were snapshots at this time. As the facts changed, my view changed. I thought that would be considered a good thing. Isn’t adapting to new facts a good thing?

    And let’s not forget why plenty of people suggested a landslide loss was possible after the Access Hollywood tape. In the 24-30 hours after that tape came out, numerous elected House and Senate Republicans called on him to QUIT the race. There were even rumors Pence might quit the ticket.

    Here was list CBS complied of Republicans who called on Trump to quit.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-who-have-called-on-donald-trump-to-quit-2016-race/

  154. Jonesy says:

    New Trafalgar Poll. Getting off B Mitchell Twitter. Hope someone can verify

    Handel 50%
    Ossoff 49%

    I believe they had Ossoff up 4 last week

  155. NYCmike says:

    “– Wow. So right after the Access Hollywood tape fallout and the numerous elected Republicans who called on Trump to quit the race, I thought he might be beaten in a landslide.”

    -Robbie,

    I agree, that it did look bad……BUT……since you have not learned the lesson yet…..Trump is a bit different, as is the media today….it takes several days to grasp which way the reaction will go.

    Please learn that lesson soon.

  156. lisab says:

    robbie is sort of like ppp (d)

    may to october: hillary will win 384+ evs
    october to nov 7: hillary will win 374+ evs
    nov 7: oh … ummmmm … maybe 325 evs
    nov 8 before 8 pm: i told you it was going to be awful
    nov 8 after 9 pm: but … but …

  157. Phil says:

    51-49 I believe, Sheeple. Was 47-50 last poll.

  158. lisab says:

    All of the other projections, whether in May or July, or September ….
    ————–

    may?
    july?
    september?

    🙂 ?

  159. DW says:

    CBS’s Scott Pelley:

    James Brady was partly to blame for hanging around too close to the evil tax-cutting President Reagan.

  160. Bitterlaw says:

    I know that we can’t start a war over the college student’s death but I don’t care if all of the North Koreans starve to death. Bastards.

  161. DW says:

    New poll of the Georgia race:

    Handel 52
    Ossoff 48

    Paladin Polling, 6-18-2017

    Note: Paladin Polling was formerly known as Paladin/CFP. CFP was the trademark of the polling firm that merged with Paladin in 2008. That firm was led by Marv and MD. With Marv’s retirement and MD’s departure, he took the naming rights of CFP with him. Heinz no longer works for either CFP or Paladin Polling, but is now a freelance consultant.

  162. lisab says:

    i feel for the family

    rip otto

  163. lisab says:

    my guess is that they arrested him just to cause trouble without meaning to hurt him, and some guards got out of hand

    guards who are probably dead now

  164. lisab says:

    we really cannot start a war with north korea ever

    seoul is too close to the border

  165. Tina says:

    So, what were the takes here after the second debate

  166. Phil says:

    170

    that is true

  167. Tina says:

    Does Marv come around here?

  168. Tina says:

    And the takes when hillary had the non medical incident on 9/11 anniversary?

  169. Phil says:

    In fact, I favor withdrawing the troops we have in South Korea. They are in the front line along the demilitarized zone and would be immediately overrun and wiped out should hostilities break out. If the idiots in power in South Korea really think they can negotiate with that fruitcake let them have at it.

  170. Tina says:

    Senate to vote on hc reform bill next week.

    The ky drunk is now moving things.

  171. pitchaboy says:

    Handel to win handily.

  172. Chicon says:

    162 – exactly correct. Question I’d have for Robbie…..What changed from mid-October to November 7 that in his mind caused Trump to gain about 50 electoral votes? It’s an important answer – was there some reason, or is the PPP analogy the reason?

  173. Phil says:

    Nate Silver just tweeted:

    “Georgia 6 now looking more pure 50/50 tossup, instead of a slight Ossoff edge”

  174. BayernFan says:

    Nate has no clue…he rarely does.

  175. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is a just-released poll of the GA CD-6 race.Landmark calls it a dead heat,whereas,a few days ago, Ossoff(D) was ahead by a couple of pts.

    https://twitter.com/wsbtv/status/876924053189148672

  176. Tina says:

    Silverfish also said that there was a 99 percent chance thst hillarynwould be president.

  177. Hugh says:

    180. Dems are skewering mate silver right now with tweets. As nasty as they are I wonder how he can stand bing a lib. They hate everyone but themselves

  178. Marv says:

    Tina,

    I check in here frequently, but haven’t posted anything lately.

  179. Hugh says:

    Nate

  180. Tina says:

    Hey Marv.

  181. Hugh says:

    4+ win for handel

  182. Phil says:

    I don’t like Nate’s politics but as a prognosticator he’s not bad. Everything he has written for the last six weeks he has indicated Ossoff with the edge.

    He is now backing off that. The polls haven’t moved much in the last week, but what movement has taken place has been a consistent across the board movement towards Handel. Silver is now acknowledging that with this latest tweet.

    I take it as a very good sign.

  183. Phil says:

    I would love for Handel to win by 4 but it just isn’t that kind of district any longer. Trump just beat the worst candidate in history by one and a half points six months ago in this same district. I believe Handle wins by between one and two points.

    I will take it.

  184. Chicon says:

    Agree that any win is a good one, Phil. It will be evidence that those suggesting an electoral tidal wave is just over the horizon need to re-examine things. Not that they will…..

    I’ve predicted them dem in a sqeaker, but recent evidence suggests I could be wrong. Happily so.

  185. mnw says:

    When I sent Handel a check recently (one of 3), I told her I loved her oratorio.

    I admire Wes’ analysis of elections like this one & still check in to read them.

  186. NYCmike says:

    http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/beer-atm-randolph-bar-brooklyn

    -EML,

    We heard your calls for easier access, and once again NYC/Brooklyn has answered the call!

  187. GF says:

    Good evening, all.

    I don’t mind Silver as much anymore. He was consistently pushing the idea that, insofar as statistical modeling was concerned, HRC had the edge going into the GE, but that Trump should absolutely NOT be ruled out as the victor. Indeed, once the polls closed up at the very end, the odds would correctly display a greater likelihood of an HRC victory, but that DJT had a serious shot for the upset.

    And that is what we got; we got an upset victory, pure and simple. If we take Silver’s final forecast as Gospel, DJT needed to roll under 34 on a D100, and that’s exactly what he did. Perfectly consistent with the math behind it all.

    Off topic; Bitter, I have the possibility of a job as an industrial manager at a firm in Collegeville, PA. I see that it is MontCo., but right now, my only real option is Dahlgren, VA, and I swore that I would never go back there. Any thoughts?

  188. Frank says:

    anyone have a link to the results?

  189. BayernFan says:

    The last 2-3 years have shown me that the most accurate polling have come from France. Polls have been nearly spot on. Uk election exit poll 10 days ago was pretty good, too, but Brexit and 2015 were off.

  190. Todd McCain says:

    HANDEL: 51.5-48.5

    #MAGA

  191. Wes says:

    Landmark was notoriously friendly to Carter and Nunn in 2014 before Deal and Perdue swamped thdm. If Landmark has movement toward Handel, then she’s likely in a strong position going into tomorrow.

    I call it at 51-49. My unrounded percentages are 51.3-48.7.

  192. Wes says:

    I’m glad you contributed to Handel’s campaign, Mnw. She really needs to stop the Dem juggernaut tomorrow.

    Thanks for the kind words about my analysis as well.

  193. Wes says:

    Just for the hell of it…

  194. Wes says:

    There. I’m officially a C blocker.

  195. Bitterlaw says:

    Instead of a trial, the British should just send this guy to an ISIS camp.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4618636/Finsbury-Park-terror-suspect-47.html

  196. mnw says:

    Wes

    3 times. My kids don’t need to go to college anyway.

    She is SOOO fat! Not helpful if you are trying to sell something.

  197. Wes says:

    The irony about this election is that I think the Left hurt itself with its demagogic rhetoriv. Ossoff was the clear frontrunner after the primary, but Dem declarations that Republicans are diabolical Nazis triggered two despicable acts–the gunning down of some congressional Republicans and threats against GOP campaign offices–by radical leftiste I feel fundamentally and immutably altered the trajectory of the race.

    Now Republicans, previously passive about Handel’s lackluster campaign, and Indies, hitherto cool toward Trump, have legitimate reasons to reject the Left in the form of Ossoff because of events beyond his control.

    Lady Luck has definitely smiled favorably on Karen Handel this last week.

  198. Phil says:

    No PPP polling of this race. Interesting. It is the only race this season that one could call half way important and PPP stayed out. As I said, very interesting.

  199. Bitterlaw says:

    I will watch CNN and MSNBC tomorrow night. If Ossoff wins, it will be the greatest victory in political history and prove that Trump is evil nd on the verge of impeachment or resignation.

    If Ossoff loses, it was an impossible challenge and they will get back to discussing Russian collusion by 11:00 p.m.

  200. Big Joe says:

    #70 Cash-

    “Didn’t the candidates agree to do 4 debates?

    How did Handel and Ossoff do in the debates?

    Did the debates move any needles in the haystack?”

    I did not watch, only knew about one debate. News coverage was limited so there must have been no gaffes. It is my opinion that debates do not matter at all. In the end, people will vote for their team.

    Republicans always vote. Dems need to get motivated and need an extraordinary turnout to win. Ossoff got 48% the first go round so that should be his floor. Can he get a few extra voters? Or will Handel lose some R votes? We’ll know tomorrow and I’ll be thankful that I can watch Jeopardy with my kids without having to sit through 30 political ads.

    Mooo!

    Big Joe

  201. Hugh says:

    52.1 Handel to 47.9

  202. Wes says:

    Random trivia:

    Of all his political opponents, who was the only one Bill Clinton never defeated?

  203. DW says:

    210 – Monica?

  204. BayernFan says:

    hammerschmidt, the guy he ran for congress against in 74 or thereabouts.

  205. Wes says:

    Cute, DW.

    Correct, Bay.

    Although Clinton also lost to Frank White in 1980, he subsequently defeated White in 1982 and 1986.

    Interestingly White indirectly created the Clinton we were familiar with by beating him because Clinton immediately worked to shore up his ability to interact with people on a personal level and continued to hone his skills for the remainder of his political career.

  206. Wes says:

    Hammerschmidt died just two years ago shortly after seeing his dream of Arkansas as a GOP bastion finally realized in the 2014 elections.

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    It appears that MD stopped posting at RRH after he was found there. Did somebody at HHR tip him off? Does he lurk here? It’s sad to see a great A-hole go soft.

  208. lisab says:

    so who will be the 2020 nominee? rubio or kasich?

  209. NYCmike says:

    I did NOT go and ridicule the “TITAN” of HHR……MISSED MY SHOT!

  210. JC says:

    And:

    Huffpo writer say’s NK prisoner deserved to die for being white: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/25/huffpo-n-korea-prisoner-deserves-it-because-hes-white/

    Deranged.

  211. Phil says:

    These lefties are just insane.

  212. Proud Obamacon says:

    Go Ossoff! It’s a win-win either way yall!

  213. MichiganGuy says:

    Prediction:

    Georgia

    Handel 51%
    Ossoff 49%

    South Carolina

    Norman 55%
    Parnell 45%

  214. Cash Cow TM says:

    Thanks for the update, Large Joe….err…Big Joe.

    The more turmoil in the U.S. and world, the more the chances for the D juggernut Ossoff (Arseoff?) slip…

  215. janz says:

    Just noticed on RCP that Handel is now up in their averages 0.2% over Ossoff. She is definitely on an upward creep, for the election tomorrow. It would be wonderful to see her win this one, as it would take a little bounce out of the dems step.

  216. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Rubio Minces No Words: Warmbier Was ‘Murdered'”

    Yes, which Obama allowed to happen through a policy of “strategic patience.”

  217. Phil says:

    Rubio just told it like it is.

  218. GF says:

    215- Bitter, he actually was outed, some poster said “Hi, MD!,” and then asked if he had seen other HHR regulars over there by name. It was strange, but I haven’t seen Maxwell’s Demon since then.

    Did you see my earlier question about Collegeville, PA? I have a job pending there if I want it…

  219. Bitterlaw says:

    GF – I feel bad for MD. Smart guy. He obviously wants to discuss politics but won’t return here. I was not going to let him know that he was caught.

    I will go back and look for your post. Collegeville is a nice area. Suburban/rural but not too far from Philadelphia. Good luck.

  220. Bitterlaw says:

    GF – Collegeville is a good place to raise a family. You could also live near me or MD and be in the top school districts in PA.

  221. Todd McCain says:

    I am moving to Collegeville in November.

  222. DW says:

    Some at RRH have concluded Handel cannot win because Trump is the face of the party.

    I just don’t understand this logic…maybe so if we were talking about a purple district in NY or MN, but this is GA and its a red tilting district.

    Why would any Republican suddenly decide the way to move forward is to vote for a young version of Bernie Sanders? When there is a regular Republican on the ballot?

  223. Bitterlaw says:

    Author voted for Hillary. I am sure that he would vote for Ossoff. It is the conservative thing to do when you are the voice of a new generation.

  224. DW says:

    232 – its like saying the way to improve your marriage is to go out and start having affairs.

  225. DW says:

    Author never recovered from his response to fan-gate in the Crist-Scott debate.

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