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Handel Keeps Surging in GA6

We had two new polls yesterday that show how much Karen Handel has surged in the US House race in Georgia. The latest poll from WSB and Landmark Communications shows the race down to a tenth of a percentage point.

US HOUSE – GEORGIA – CD6 RUNOFF (WSB/Landmark)
Jon Ossoff (D) 49.0%
Karen Handel (R) 48.9%

This poll was done June 18th among 500 likely voters. Meanwhile, a new poll from The Trafalgar Group puts Karen Handel up by about 2%.

US HOUSE – GEORGIA – CD6 RUNOFF (Trafalgar)
Karen Handel (R) 50.5%
Jon Ossoff (D) 48.6%

This poll was done June 17-18 among 1100 likely voters. The real counting starts tonight.

Posted by Dave at 6:34 am
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248 Responses to “Handel Keeps Surging in GA6”

  1. Wes says:

    Handel 51.3-Ossoff 48.7.

    Handel 51-Ossoff 49 if you prefer the rounded version.

  2. Jonesy says:

    Wes, you saw her momentum build last week. Good Call

  3. Jonesy says:

    Wes, it also looks like Heller in NV has a top tier Dem Challenger in a Freshman Rep named Rosen.

    Dean has had tough races before, so lets hope he is on the ball

  4. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is from the most partisan Democrat on Red Racing Horses. He is also on Daily KOS as Socks The Cat.

    TEKZILLA
    June 20, 2017 at 7:59 am

    From the little I’ve been able to follow GA-06 it seems the tide has turned. I’ll go with the prediction of Handel winning 50.5-49.5.
    36/M/NY-01 (D)

  5. hugh says:

    what time do polls close

  6. MichiganGuy says:

    Polls close at 7p ET in both Georgia and South Carolina.

  7. hugh says:

    great. should be popping the cork by 10pm

  8. Phil says:

    The Landmark poll shows Ossoff is down to 11% of Republicans. Two weeks ago he looked like a sure bet to get 15. Republicans coming home. Perhaps they don’t like their guys in congress gunned down.

  9. Wes says:

    Or having leftists threaten GOP campaign offices, Phil…

  10. Phil says:

    He was at 15.3% of Republican voters in the same poll five days ago. It appears Wes was on to something when he said the events of last week turned the tide.

  11. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    June 20, 2017 at 7:03 am

    GF – I feel bad for MD. Smart guy. He obviously wants to discuss politics but won’t return here. I was not going to let him know that he was caught.

    -Why feel bad for him?

    He is showing himself to be worse than the bully he mentioned used to torment him into high school. Supposedly, he put an end to that by jumping the kid from behind, while he was at a urinal.

    I mentioned at the time that seemed pretty cowardly, but he did what he had to do, I guess. NOW, with his unwillingness to take the ribbing and the ridicule which would have come due to his own “relentless” attitude, he shows his true self by sulking away, and blaming it on “the party left him”.

    I call B*llsh*t on that! The principles of the Republican Party have not changed, but the people in leadership, Trump, Pence, McConnell, Ryan, etc don’t seem to be the best standard bearers. The worst part for MD is that Trump and Pence seem more willing to lead as Republicans than the congressional team, which once again, MD was WRONG about.

    MD, if you are out there, I will always welcome you back to HHR, because I am flawed, just like you are. I will be RELENTLESS in my efforts to NOT LAUGH AT YOU AS MUCH AS I HAVE IN THE PAST 7MONTHS!

    Here is to seeing you again, mi amigo de short stature, and mas pequeno character.

  12. Phil says:

    Ossoff has also lost 4.5 pts with indies in five days. I know the margin of error with subgroups is rather large, but just saying…..

  13. DW says:

    Handel has the lead in the RCP average.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/house/ga/georgia_6th_district_runoff_election_handel_vs_ossoff-6202.html

    Like they say in NASCAR, there may be 500 laps, but there is only ONE lap that matters when you are in the lead.

  14. hugh says:

    It would be nice if we have a comfortable win as it will be very demoralizing to the dems. I actually think it will be comfortable, more than 4 points.

  15. Wes says:

    To be fair, it wasn’t that hard to handicap, Phil. Once a leftist gunned down several GOP Congressmen, Republicans flirting with the idea of voting for the Democrat would naturally return to the fold.

    Threats against Handel campaign offices only intensified the situation.

  16. Wes says:

    I sometimes wonder how posters at RRH can claim to be Republicans when literally all their posts tell us Dems are going to destroy the Republicans.

    I used to take Rdelbov to task for saccharine overly optimistic analysis of every election, but the RRHers don’t seem happy if they can’t declare Dems are going to destroy the GOP.

  17. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Anecdotal, but here is a report for voting today in Cobb County:

    ThinkingAllowed
    The line at 7am here in NE Cobb Cty was longer by at least 3 times than it was during the presidential election.

  18. NYCmike says:

    I will stick with my reasoning from last month or so, right after the primary.

    While many of you have written many words to get across your ever-changing opinions, I have stuck to what I said on that day:

    1) Dems were trying to get 50% to avoid a run-off, so their voters were motivated. THEY DID NOT SUCCEED.

    2) Republicans had a divided field, with not much enthusiasm for any candidate, so they lagged far behind, while still getting over 50% of the voters to vote for their candidates. THEY DID THAT.

    3) Events happen….there was a lot of time in between the first election, and the run-off. I figured the “LEFT” would get overly emotional about things, as they are programmed to do, as well as some terrorist activity by Muslims. (I did not even contemplate an attack on an incumbent Republican representative a week before the election).

    As I predicted over a month ago, and have not wavered, Handel wins 52-48.

    Let’s count the votes. Good guys win! (fingers crossed, since no person is omnipotent, as MD showed us in such a strong manner.)

  19. NYCmike says:

    “I sometimes wonder****(when I am NOT sticking needles in my George W. Bush voodoo doll***”)

  20. Wes says:

    Let’s be honest, Mikey:

    Handel ran an uninspiring campaign while Ossoff was doing what he needed to fo to win.

    Without Hodgkinson and the Dem threats on the local GOP campaign offices, Ossoff would have eon.

    Now he’ll lose.

  21. Wes says:

    You mean omniscient in 18, Mikey, not omnipotent.

  22. NYCmike says:

    Wesley,

    Exactly. I was testing you.

  23. Wes says:

    Surely you were, Mikey. Surely.

  24. NYCmike says:

    “Without Hodgkinson and the Dem threats on the local GOP campaign offices, Ossoff would have eon.”

    -As I said, “events happen”.

    Democrats/leftists are driven by emotion. They vote by emotion, they legislate by emotion, they govern by emotion. That is why their victories are either disastrous, or short-lived. In that sense, Trump is a unique individual, in that he is “childish” enough to fight back against their tantrums, as opposed to being an adult who sometimes ignores their child when they act badly.

  25. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    Just try not to freak out when the initial returns are not the numbers that are needed, as you (along with MD), are prone to do.

  26. Wes says:

    To the Left’s credit, Mikey, they don’t legislate by the belief that God intends pregnancy from rape unlike–ahem!–some people.

    ZING!

  27. NYCmike says:

    M U R D O C K ! ! !

  28. NYCmike says:

    Just because I enjoyed them:

    Bitterlaw says:
    June 20, 2017 at 7:53 am

    Author voted for Hillary. I am sure that he would vote for Ossoff. It is the conservative thing to do when you are the voice of a new generation.

    DW says:
    June 20, 2017 at 8:39 am

    232 – its like saying the way to improve your marriage is to go out and start having affairs.

    DW says:
    June 20, 2017 at 8:49 am

    Author never recovered from his response to fan-gate in the Crist-Scott debate.

  29. Phil says:

    We are at the hospital getting my wife’s blood draw for her weekly labs. They have CNN on. I think I am going to throw up. It is still Russia, Russia, Flynn, Flynn, obstruction of justice, obstruction of justice……and what is with this guy Gergen…. what a tool. Didn’t he used to work for Reagan? Mentioned the race today and how much on the defensive the Republicans are. What a hack network.

  30. Phil says:

    Going in for labs now. anything to get away from CNN.

  31. Wes says:

    Best wishes, Phil.

  32. NYCmike says:

    Looks like Trump wrote “Handle” on his tweet this morning…… 🙂

  33. NYCmike says:

    Phil,

    Tell your wife to KICK ASS in there!

    TAKE NO PRISONERS!

  34. Wes says:

    DW says:
    June 20, 2017 at 8:39 am

    232 – its like saying the way to improve your marriage is to go out and start having affairs.

    It worked for Bill Clinton. 🙂

  35. DW says:

    35 – they both obviously agreed on an ‘open’ marriage to begin with. All the feigned outrage when infidelities were in the press was just part of the play they put on.

  36. janz says:

    I wouldn’t exactly describe Handel as “surging,” regarding her improving numbers in today’s GA6 special election. The tepid support for her is simply tightening up, while the superficiality of Ossoff’s campaign may be either wearing thin or becoming too obvious.

  37. janz says:

    The Washington Beacon had a piece yesterday describing how their reporter was removed from an Ossoff campaign gathering. Also, Ossoff’s yarn, about living a mere 3 blocks outside the district, was unraveled as a reporter walked the distance from his house to the border of the GA6 district, and it was over 3 miles.

    Little discrepancies like that tend to add up over time, creating more distrust than confidence in someone, who is already marginal.

  38. Robbie says:

    There’s no perfect comparison, but the ending to this race reminds me a bit of the Jolly/Sink special election in March 2014. The polling, until the very end, suggested a small Sink win while the early vote tended to suggest a small Jolly win.

  39. GA Voter says:

    FINALLY!!! Today is here in the 6th! So tired of it all! Ready for intersection signs to go away.

    Hopefully it will be an uneventful night. Chance of late rain/thunderstorms in our area. Traffic nightmare to follow.

    Handel voted and is wearing the “I voted” Georgia peach sticker something the other candidate cannot do today!

  40. MichiganGuy says:

    US shoots down Iranian drone in Syria

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/20/breaking-us-shoots-down-iranian-drone-in-syria.html

    Obama apoligize for the shoot down; j/k but, I could see him doing it.

  41. Chicon says:

    What was Trump’s margin in GA-6?

  42. MichiganGuy says:

    Breaking News!

    Handel bodyslams Ossoff. Wins in a landslide!

  43. Chicon says:

    Just heard Trump won by 1.5.

  44. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 11:05 am
    Just heard Trump won by 1.5.

    – In 2012, Romney won the district by 20.

  45. DW says:

    “Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 11:05 am
    Just heard Trump won by 1.5.

    – In 2012, Romney won the district by 20.”

    All the more reason Handel should win, in that there are obviously a lot of mainstream Republicans wary of Trump. Handel is a mainstream GOP candidate.

  46. Wes says:

    What’s your prediction ffor the outcome, DW?

  47. GeauxLSU says:

    Just heard a CBS radio new update. They were live reporting about the GA election today. They said “all indications are that the trends are moving in the DEM candidates favor”. LOL. These people never cease to amaze me.

  48. Chicon says:

    46 – perhaps the 1.5 operates as a floor for Handel?

  49. Chicon says:

    45 – and your point is?

  50. DW says:

    47 – I have been saying all along 52/48 for Handel.

  51. DW says:

    48 – maybe so they can setup the narrative…”All indicators were that Ossoff would win. The fact that he did not means Russia was interfering again.”

  52. Big E says:

    Are there any reports of machines being havked….

  53. DW says:

    Breaking:

    Vladimir Putin seen loitering in alley behind voting precinct in Georgia this morning.

  54. Barrett says:

    RCP has the average at 49.0% Handel, 48.8% Ossoff. It’s really impossible to tell.

    Ossoff received 48.1% in the first round, and I think he will add to that percentage. I honestly don’t know how much.

    Either way, I’m not sure what a victory proves either way. If Ossoff loses, it’s a failure for the Democrats. But it’s also not great news for Republicans when a historically Republican-safe district is razor thin.

    On the other hand, if Ossoff wins, his moderate brand will give the DNC pause in regards to what types of candidates they run in suburban red districts in 2018. Look for the progressives and moderates to duke it out amongst each other for 2018 Dem party nominations. His nomination could lead to a civil war within the democratic party.

  55. Waingro says:

    “I sometimes wonder how posters at RRH can claim to be Republicans when literally all their posts tell us Dems are going to destroy the Republicans.”

    And some of their hysteria is based on false facts/data. One of the guys on there claimed the generic ballot was about D+10 to D+12 right now, which immediately caused me to hit up RCP which showed the average at D+6.

    It’s tough to take too many of those posters seriously.

  56. DW says:

    “Ossoff received 48.1% in the first round, and I think he will add to that percentage.”

    Why? The Dem’s best play for this seat was for him to reach 50% on the first round when Republicans were not as motivated and splintered among less than thrilling primary options. He didn’t reach 50% and now Republicans are galvanized around Handel, especially after the baseball shooting.

    All things being equal, I would think 48.1 is probably Ossoff’s ceiling.

  57. Barrett says:

    Why? There were other Democrats participating in that race. He could possible add another percentage point, but 49% may be as far as he gets.

    It’s too close to tell. Democrats are also galvanized around Ossoff.

  58. DW says:

    58 – yes, but they were galvanized around their best shot at getting the seat–the first round. Remember the great disappointment that was palpable on the left and in the leftist media when he fell short of 50%.

  59. Marv says:

    DW,

    Did MD transfer his 1/3rd share of the company to us yet?

  60. JC says:

    Barrett says:
    June 20, 2017 at 12:00 pm
    “Either way, I’m not sure what a victory proves either way. If Ossoff loses, it’s a failure for the Democrats. But it’s also not great news for Republicans when a historically Republican-safe district is razor thin.”
    —————————

    I think the national mood is no different for the house now than it was during the last presidential election when Trump was at the top of the ticket.

    Yes, some historically safe GOP districts (particularly college-educated areas) became sing districts. But remember, there are also plenty of historically safe dem districts than went republican (and by wider margins).

    There was a fundamental shift last year, as blue collar workers drifted to the right and college educated voters drifted to the left. Trump changed the landscape.

    Frankly, I’d choose Trump’s coalition over the old GOP one. Far more blue collar voters out there.

  61. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #58-Barrett
    Ossoff’s(D) percentage could go down because there were tens of thousands of GOP voters who did not vote in the primary because they were turned off by the nastiness among the GOP candidates.
    On Fox and Friends this morning in their interview with Mrs. Handel, she said that these first round GOP non-voters were voting strongly in Round II.

  62. BayernFan says:

    If Handel wins, should GOP voters there shelter in place?

  63. Phil says:

    63

    Yes. The loons will go nuts!

  64. Marv says:

    Phil,

    Prayers for Mrs Phil.

  65. Phil says:

    Thanks, Marv. Good lab numbers today.

  66. Marv says:

    Phil,

    Great!!

  67. Marv says:

    Phil,

    Aggies this year?

  68. janz says:

    Good to see your name in the mix again, Marv.

  69. DW says:

    60 – Hi Marv, yes, smooth transition. No animus at the division of Paladin and CFP.

    How are things in Hawaii?

  70. Marv says:

    janz,

    Nice to see all the old hands are still here.

  71. Marv says:

    DW,

    Still in negotiations for our new corporate office complex. It’s taking longer that expected.

  72. GeauxLSU says:

    I keep waiting on the video of Ossoff going to cast his ballot in Ga06 today…oh wait…

  73. janz says:

    Is Hawaii your permanent residence, Marv? Also, while there are still “regulars” here, many got beaten up and simply disappeared following the 2016 election.

  74. janz says:

    I wonder how much, if any, not living in the district one is running for office in, will impact a Democrat candidate?

  75. Marv says:

    janz,

    We still live in FL.

  76. Marv says:

    Marv,

    Prediction:

    Handel trails early, but rallies to win 51.4 to 48.6

  77. DW says:

    77 – its a tough call…you could be right, but I would go with 51.6 to 48.4, which rounds to 52/48.

  78. DW says:

    What did Dems spend? 40,000,000 on this race?

    Lets hope Handel wins by 350 votes, and Dems stimulate the economy with another $40,000,000 on recounts that also fail to overturn results.

  79. Marv says:

    DW,

    Do you have the final early vote tallies?

  80. Wes says:

    janz, living outside a district doesn’t necessarily hurt candidates. For example, in his initial run for Congress, Walter Jones lived just outside his district. I think if a candidate lives near a district, he/she can win a House seat so long as the candidate establishes familiarity with the locals.

  81. NYCmike says:

    Dems spent a lot, but Republican pacs also spent $$$, since Handel did not raise that much to spend, although more than usual for a House race.

    It is already past noon…..has Robbie breathlessly posted the first exits from some obscure Count in Transylvania?

  82. Wes says:

    Barrett, I think Dems will be psychologically drained if Ossoff loses. They’ve spent more on this race than any other against a fundamentally weak Republican in a district Trump squeaked by in—usually a sign of a partisan reversal in an area–yet lost. That is a huge blow to recover from and is likely to have at least something of a chilling effect on candidate recruitment.

  83. Wes says:

    Fundraising has always been Handel’s weak point. That weakness was one reason Ossoff led her for such a long time.

  84. jason says:

    Early exits seem good for Handel.

  85. NYCmike says:

    “Early exits seem good for Handel.”

    -I BELIEVE THESE ONES! 🙂

  86. DW says:

    80 – no, but someone posted them here yesterday in the thread below.

  87. Marv says:

    DW,

    OK, thanks.

  88. Wobbie says:

    As usual, I am covered.

    If Ossoff wins, my prediction of doom and gloom and Armageddon and the Holocaust for Republicans will have come true.

    If he loses, I did say it was possible Handel could win somewhere, look it up.

    Of course, I would prefer she loses so I could be 1-5 in predicting Trump would sink all Republican candidates.

  89. jason says:

    “I BELIEVE THESE ONES!”

    It’s one of the reasons I come here, I want to improve my English.

  90. George says:

    From Byron York via Hot Air:

    In a WSB-Landmark Communications poll finished in the final days of early voting, Ossoff had 54.4 percent of the early vote, to Handel’s 45.6 percent. That suggests a super-tight final result, but with perhaps enough room for Handel to squeak by. In another new poll of the early vote, the Trafalgar Group found Ossoff with just 51.3 percent of the early vote, to Handel’s 48.7 percent. That’s much better news for Handel. The problem is, no one knows which is correct, or whether either is correct.

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2017/06/20/gop-frets-over-ossoff-handel-race-looks-to-sky-for-hope/

  91. DW says:

    91 – well, Trafalgar nailed the 2016 battleground states and Landmark couldn’t get the Perdue-Nunn senate race right.

    Even so, just average the two and you have 52.8 or so Ossoff advantage in the early vote–that wouldn’t be enough to overcome Handel’s election day vote.

  92. DW says:

    Also, would be interested to see what the sample size of the early voters was in those two polls. If they surveyed 500 likely voters overall, but of those only 200 had already voted, then a sample of 200 has a much larger margin of error.

  93. Wes says:

    For those interested, MD has weighed in on a few topics at RRH today.

  94. Marv says:

    Wes,

    How’s it going?

  95. Chicon says:

    Eric Holder says he’s considering a run for President.

  96. Waingro says:

    #94, I imagine they have been all “DOOM!!” posts, Wes?

  97. MichiganGuy says:

    From RRH:

    KEWGARDENS
    June 20, 2017 at 1:20 pm
    “It is currently raining in the Democratic parts of GA-6, but not in the Republican parts”
    https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/877209066749267968
    Damn Russian cloud seeding!! ?

  98. Robbie says:

    Wobbie says:
    June 20, 2017 at 1:37 pm
    As usual, I am covered.
    If Ossoff wins, my prediction of doom and gloom and Armageddon and the Holocaust for Republicans will have come true.
    If he loses, I did say it was possible Handel could win somewhere, look it up.
    Of course, I would prefer she loses so I could be 1-5 in predicting Trump would sink all Republican candidates.

    – Nice try, Jason the Trump apologist. I still marvel that you were #neverTrump last year and now you’re in his hip pocket. Talk about a 180 degree turn. I guess this shouldn’t surprise me since your main man, Rubio, spends his time pretending to be Trump’s lap dog. You’re just following his lead.

  99. Diamond Jim says:

    C

  100. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 20, 2017 at 1:22 pm
    Dems spent a lot, but Republican pacs also spent $$$, since Handel did not raise that much to spend, although more than usual for a House race.
    It is already past noon…..has Robbie breathlessly posted the first exits from some obscure Count in Transylvania?

    – Unless something has changed, there are never any exit polls done for House races, but thanks for playing.

  101. Robbie says:

    As far as the fallout if Handel loses, I think it’s already been factored into Republican thinking. Maybe there will be a few retirements as a result, but I doubt there will be a wave of them. The possibility of losing this race has been ever present since March. It’s far more likely there would have been a nuclear fallout had no one thought a loss possible and Handel came up short on election day.

  102. Redmen4ever says:

    GA06: Turnout may be key. According to Trafalgar, Ossoff has only a small lead among early voters (3). While according to Opinion Savvy and Landmark, Ossoff has a much larger lead (16 and 9). Considering the size of the samples, maybe Ossoff has banked an 8 point lead. With a good turnout today, given her lead among likely voters who have not yet voted, she should win.

  103. GPO says:

    What is MD handle on RRH

  104. Wes says:

    You answered your own question, GPO.

  105. NYCmike says:

    ” It’s far more likely there would have been a nuclear fallout had no one thought a loss possible and Handel came up short on election day.”

    -At least I can say this about our Republican representatives: They don’t react as quickly as Robbie does to doomsday news.

  106. Wes says:

    He chose to be the tormenting hellish spirit of a famously combative former Hedgehogger on RRH with the initials of his old handle from here.

  107. GPO says:

    BOB Young any chance against Stabenow? Or is that safely D

  108. jason says:

    #neverTrump last year and now you’re in his hip pocket.”

    LOL

    The MSM sycophant lap dog talking about someone else being in a hip pocket?

    You have to admire the chutzpah. It must have something to do with finding the real Jeb Bush killer.

    I am entirely consistent on Trump. Where I didn’t agree with him I still don’t agree with him, and I have voiced my opposition to many of his policies here repeatedly.

    But I know a MSM hit job when I see one, and contrary to you, I am outraged at the sordid campaign to delegitimize Trump as President.

    I don’t have to like Trump to oppose the media’s attempt at what essentially is a coup d’état.

  109. jason says:

    “Nice try, Jason the Trump apologist.”

    Where is Bitter, I think this deserves an award ceremony since its for so many points.

  110. Wes says:

    Stabenow starts as Likely D Hold. If Young can appeal to Trump voters and create a schism between Stabenow and Michigan voters as Young did with Bayh, he might have a chance. That would be about the 10th seat I would target though. There are more vulnerable Dems in the Senate. Unless Trump is going to have a 1934-style wave in his midterm, I’d expect Stabenow to hang on fairly comfortably.

  111. Big Joe says:

    I’m not in CD-6 but long line being reported from multiple people locally. I know its anecdotal and not clear who is benefitting.

    This looks like a true tossup. My guess 50.2-49.8. No clue who will win.

    Big Joe

  112. Big Joe says:

    *long lines

    Plus its been pouring rain all day.

    Big Joe

  113. Redmen4ever says:

    In the event Handel wins, Republicans advised:

    1. Remove incriminating bumper stickers.
    2. Keep from laughing, being cheerful or optimistic.
    3. Take a different route to and from work from one day to another.
    4. Check seals on food products and OTC drugs.
    5. Buy a life insurance policy from Progressive.

  114. jason says:

    Late exits also good for Handel.

    But don’t worry, Wobbie, exits are notoriously unreliable.

  115. jason says:

    Breaking!

    Big Joe thinks one of the candidates will win.

    Since he is from GA, I am not betting against him.

  116. jason says:

    “Nice try, Jason the Trump apologist.”

    I really love this place.

    I didn’t even vote for the guy.

    But I guess I am redeeming myself, after being excoriated for months for “not lifting a finger to keep Hillary from being President”*

    * which wasn’t true, I spent months here explaining how bad a Hillary presidency would be.

  117. MichiganGuy says:

    @108 GPO, I think Kid Rock has a better chance than Bob Young. Lol

  118. DW says:

    I just read the MaxwellsDemon comments on RRH and that definitely could be MD….but how long will he last there? The moderators will drive him nuts until there is an explosion and he is banned.

  119. jason says:

    Loud bang heard at Brussels train station…..

  120. Robbie says:

    Tim Alberta, who worked for National Review and now Politico, wrote a piece about Mike Pence and the open discussion among Republicans about him ascending to the presidency this past weekend.

    He gave this interview today to a Detroit radio station. Move the cursor to the 12:30 mark and listen to what he says about Pence and how Republicans in the House and Senate view him and Trump.

    http://wdet.org/posts/2017/06/20/85376-could-we-see-a-president-pence/

  121. jason says:

    What does MD have to say? I can always hope he will come to his senses.

  122. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 20, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    ” It’s far more likely there would have been a nuclear fallout had no one thought a loss possible and Handel came up short on election day.”
    -At least I can say this about our Republican representatives: They don’t react as quickly as Robbie does to doomsday news.

    – Whereas you’re the guy sitting in a burning house saying “this is fine”.

    http://imgur.com/c4jt321

  123. jason says:

    Politico is in favor of an MSM coup d’état against Trump?

    Wow, what a surprise.

  124. jason says:

    “burning house”

    Is that what the moonbats call it?

  125. Robbie says:

    I’m not going to go back through the archives and look, but on what issues has Jason criticized Trump since his inauguration?

  126. DW says:

    here is my MD prediction:

    1) his time at RRH will be short-lived as he will run contrary to the moderators all too soon.

    2) he will go dark again.

    3) As soon as he thinks Trump has failed sufficiently, he will return to HHR with an ‘I told you so’ perspective, yet will also express an unexpected humility about the results from last year. But make no mistake, he won’t return until he can claim some solid I told you so statements based on Trump failures. For instance, had Trump made a lousy SCOTUS pick, he would be back already by now.

  127. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:00 pm
    Politico is in favor of an MSM coup d’état against Trump?
    Wow, what a surprise.

    – Rather than just paint with a broad brush as you normally do, you should listen to the segment.

    And as you know, I hope Trump resigns the presidency and allows Pence to become President. I find Trump to be boorish and an embarrassment.

    If we woke up tomorrow morning and found out Trump was no longer president (for whatever reason), I believe two thirds of the country would breathe a sigh of relief.

    More importantly, the legislative agenda that has been stalled due to Trump’s self destructive actions would move rapidly towards enactment.

  128. Wobbie says:

    Look, I know my anti-Trump rhetoric is EXACTLY the same as the MSM’s. 100%. NYT? Check. WAPO? Check. MSNBC? Check. Huff Post? Check.

    But let me assure you its one of the most incredible coincidences in the history of mankind.

    In 20 years they will have NYT editorials and my posts here at HHR exhibited side by side at the Ripley’s Believe or Not Museum.

  129. jason says:

    I find Trump to be boorish and an embarrassment.”

    Wow, what fabulous reasons to overturn a legitimately won election.

    You really are a pathetic idiot.

  130. Barrett says:

    I just want you guys to know, that even though I don’t 100% agree with your assessment of tonights special election, that Republicans are DOOOOMED!!!!

    If Jon Ossoff wins, you are DOOOOMED!!!!!

    DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!

    oh wait….Robbie is already concern trolling, looks like I’m out of a job.

    Tonight won’t change anything.

  131. brucefdb says:

    ‘If we woke up tomorrow morning and found out Trump was no longer president (for whatever reason), I believe two thirds of the country would breathe a sigh of relief.’

    Sad. then 2/3 of the country are Useful Idiots.

  132. Barrett says:

    #130 – Our rules are simple. 270 to win.

    Trump got 304 (after 3 faithless electors). Popular vote is irrelevant unless congress wants to amend our electoral process.

    So a win is a win.

  133. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:11 pm
    I find Trump to be boorish and an embarrassment.”
    Wow, what fabulous reasons to overturn a legitimately won election.
    You really are a pathetic idiot.

    – I’m not calling for the overturning of the election. I don’t support impeachment. I simply prefer Pence as president.

  134. Robbie says:

    Barrett says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:14 pm
    #130 – Our rules are simple. 270 to win.
    Trump got 304 (after 3 faithless electors). Popular vote is irrelevant unless congress wants to amend our electoral process.
    So a win is a win.

    – I’m not calling for the overturning of the election by impeachment or any other means. I just prefer Pence as president because I don’t like Trump at all. But thanks for playing.

  135. DW says:

    133 – actually it was 304 after two faithless electors. Trump originally hat 306. Clinton had 232 until she lost 5 faithless electors.

  136. Barrett says:

    My bad…there were faithless electors involved. My math was off

  137. Chicon says:

    128 – wrong. Trump’s foibles Ave been a distraction from the poor leadership in Congress. Remember all your whining about the HFC and the health care bill (which you were also wrong about)?

  138. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    You really are a pathetic idiot.

    – Pathetic idiot is supporting a president who doesn’t share your values or ideology. Trump’s certainly not a conservative and his erratic self destructive actions have put in danger the once in a generation legislative goals of the Republican Party. It’s quite possible Neil Gorsuch will be the only substantive accomplishment of 2017 (assuming Kennedy doesn’t retire next week).

  139. Barrett says:

    I love this CNN Headline:

    “Trump’s silence after attack on Muslims speaks volumes”

    Just come out and say that you hate Trump CNN. I think Islam’s silence after all of these terrorist attacks speaks volumes as well!

  140. ProgressiveCT says:

    Can’t wait for Handel to lose! Ossoff!!!

  141. Chicon says:

    Robbie admits Trump is in alignment with Robbie on the two most important issues to our intrepid pilot. But he hates Trump anyway, which means Robbie is similar to MD – too emotional to give much credence to his “analysis”.

  142. Paul says:

    140: Barrett

    What silence are you talking about. Muslims overwhelmingly condemned the attacks. You must be a blind idiot or a partisan liar.

  143. DW says:

    139 – what about Trump getting out of the Paris Gore-bull Warming money sinkhole?

  144. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:19 pm
    128 – wrong. Trump’s foibles Ave been a distraction from the poor leadership in Congress. Remember all your whining about the HFC and the health care bill (which you were also wrong about)?

    – Trump’s erratic behavior and self destructive tendencies quickly eroded his job approval rating. Had he been a 50% president in March when the first attempt at healthcare was made, the HFC and moderates would’ve fallen, for the most part, in line.

    Unfortunately for Trump, his approval rating on the day the first try at health reform failed was just 42.9% in the RCP average (just two months into his term). His approval quickly dropped further to 39.8 in that average just two weeks later.

    Trump earned his low approval rating by his own actions. They weren’t the result of a recession or a foreign policy blunder. They were the result of dumb missteps he made like hiring Flynn and firing off unhinged tweets.

    Big action like healthcare reform and tax reform take presidential leadership. With low ratings, the HFC and the moderates, as well, simply didn’t feel the need to fall in line for him. They did subsequently, but just four days after the House bent to his will, he fired Comey out of the blue and set off a terrible mess.

  145. DW says:

    GA judge orders Dekalb County to leave 2 polling locations open till 730 pm et due to “technical issues” in GA6 special election

  146. jason says:

    I can imagine if Jeb had been elected President and I suggested here he should resign because of his horrible body language and poor communication skills.

    Wobbie would squeal like a stuck pig.

    Yet Trump should be victim of a coup d’état led by the leftist media because Wobbie finds him “boorish”.

    Yeah, pathetic is not the right word, you need something stronger.

  147. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:26 pm
    Robbie admits Trump is in alignment with Robbie on the two most important issues to our intrepid pilot. But he hates Trump anyway, which means Robbie is similar to MD – too emotional to give much credence to his “analysis”.

    – Trump is transactional. He’s lined up behind tax reform and conservative judges simply because the Republican Party is the one who brought him to the dance. Had he run and won as a Democrat, he’d have just as easily supported higher taxes, single payer (he supported that in the past), and liberal judges.

    As for Trump, I don’t care for him because I don’t believe he has the competency, judgment, or convictions to run the government. On top of that, I find his personal behavior to be boorish and embarrassing. Call me old fashion, but I find his two divorces and serial philandering objectionable.

  148. Cash Cow TM says:

    Who are the geniuses who put manhole covers and storm grades in the road where you HAVE to hit them with your tires as you drive down the street and knock your tires out of line?

    Who is the genius who designed WAY too long 5 foot long sneaker shoelaces? Three foot long is plenty and will reduce health care costs from tripping over untied shoe laces.

    Who is the genius who designed the toaster cords to be no longer than 2 feet when many homes really need a 4 foot cord?

    Really!…Wilco Foxtrot Tango!
    SMH…

    America is going down the tubes….

  149. jason says:

    believe two thirds of the country would breathe a sigh of relief.’

    Wow, that means 2/3 of the country have no respect for Democracy or the rule of law.

    Sad to hear.

  150. DW says:

    149 – who designed the head-rest in the Honda CRV to be at a 45 degree angle assuming only people with a vertebrae shaped like ET would buy the car?

  151. jason says:

    but I find his two divorces and serial philandering objectionable.”

    Really? That’s it?

    Geezuz…

  152. Walt says:

    Bridge Day today!

    I still SUCK!
    Cards still SUPER SUCK!

    You are supposed to have 13 or more points for an opening bid.
    First six hands I had the following points:
    0
    2
    7
    4
    9

    The person with the lowest individual score for the day gets the pot full of pennies you put in as penalty when you do not make your bid.

    I came in 2nd to last…NOT dead last
    The person who did worse than me felt sorry for me and donated the 38 pennies to me.

    Sad.
    Really sad.

  153. jason says:

    he fired Comey out of the blue”

    Huh, actually, no…MSM garbage.

    Comey was under fire long before he got canned and in any event it was Trump’s prerogative to fire him, he didn’t need a reason anyway.

    And of course firing Comey did not affect the FBI investigation in ANY manner, Comey was not conducting it personally, nothing changed. But Wobbie knows that, it’s just that he feels compelled to pump out the MSM cesspool.

  154. Walt says:

    OH…

    HAPPY WEST VIRGINIA DAY!
    _________________________________
    ‘Tis West Virginia’s birthday today.
    144 years old…and still kicking.

  155. Phil says:

    Technical issues?

    How come in every election Democrats always manage to get some judge to keep the polls open in some Democratic stronghold? St. Louis, Charlotte NC, DeKalb County…

    Like clockwork.

  156. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    Yet Trump should be victim of a coup d’état led by the leftist media because Wobbie finds him “boorish”.
    Yeah, pathetic is not the right word, you need something stronger.

    – What I find pathetic is strutting like peacock all throughout 2016 over your #neverTrump position and even stating you’d drop out of the Republican Party after Trump won only to fall in line and use Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity style talking points about a farcical coup d’état. What’s next? Are you going to start talking about the “deep state”?

    Trump’s in this position because he can’t control his own impulses. Rather than let the phony Russia collusion story run out of steam, he kept giving it life by incessantly tweeting about it. And then in the boneheaded move of all boneheaded moves, he fired the man conducting the Russia investigation because, as he said to Lester Holt, of the Russia story.

    Had Trump never hired Flynn nor wasted his time on Tweets about Russia or Comey, he’d have none of these problems. But sure, blame it on a media coup d’état.

  157. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:38 pm
    believe two thirds of the country would breathe a sigh of relief.’
    Wow, that means 2/3 of the country have no respect for Democracy or the rule of law.
    Sad to hear.

    – You can take out of context what I wrote all you want, but I didn’t say two thirds favor overturning an election. I said my guess is two thirds would breathe a sigh of relief because the unsettledness and unease of all this would be over. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump who are tired of Trump.

  158. NYCmike says:

    “(which you were also wrong about)?”

    -Chicon,

    I don’t keep track anymore…..took up too much time.

  159. jason says:

    “Pathetic idiot is supporting a president who doesn’t share your values or ideology.”

    Dang, I didn’t know these were valid reasons for overturning an election, we could have saved ourselves 8 years of Obama??

  160. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:39 pm
    but I find his two divorces and serial philandering objectionable.”
    Really? That’s it?
    Geezuz…

    – I was criticized by Chicon for being emotional and hating Trump. Well, I offered a reason why I find him boorish. Forgive me for being a devout Catholic who puts value in the sanctity of marriage.

  161. jason says:

    So Wobbie admits the whole Russia thing is phony but at the same time its so important that it warrants overturning the election.

    LOL.

  162. NYCmike says:

    Odd, Robbie says 2/3rds, I haven’t met anyone who voted for Trump that wants him gone, and that includes many who voted AGAINST HILLARY (despite that choice NOT being on the ballot 🙂 ).

    Simple fact is that politics is a dirty game, and Trump is not much different, except that he gets away with more “verbal miscues” than normal politicians.

  163. NYCmike says:

    ” Forgive me for being a devout Catholic who puts value in the sanctity of marriage.”

    -So you disliked Reagan?

  164. DW says:

    156 – some of it is probably legit, because some of these dem strongholds are run by the most incompetent boobs you would ever find. The sort of campaign workers who wouldn’t know enough to setup orange cones to facilitate the line. It is out of the stock of these sorts of people we get representatives that think Guam could flip over or think that our astronauts have left a flag on Mars.

  165. jason says:

    I thought Wobbie was still living in the Jeb Bush candidacy era.

    But its worse than that.

    Trump has been married to Melania since 2005….

  166. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:50 pm
    “Pathetic idiot is supporting a president who doesn’t share your values or ideology.”
    Dang, I didn’t know these were valid reasons for overturning an election, we could have saved ourselves 8 years of Obama??

    – Please tell me where I am advocating for overturning an election. I don’t support impeachment and nor have I called for or demanded that Trump resign.

    I have simply said I would prefer Trump was no longer president so Pence could become president. Bitter holds the same view as well. I’m merely expressing my wish. I’m not calling for action to make it happen. I wish Obama had resigned too. Was I also calling for the overturning of an election in that case?

  167. jason says:

    Odd, Robbie says 2/3rds, I haven’t met anyone who voted for Trump that wants him gone,”

    Not to mention those like me, and I know several, who didn’t vote for him but resent the MSM’s coup d’état attempt.

  168. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:52 pm
    So Wobbie admits the whole Russia thing is phony but at the same time its so important that it warrants overturning the election.
    LOL.

    – Again, you can repeat this lie as much as you want, but it doesn’t make it true. I am not calling for Trump to be impeached nor am I demanding he resign. I’d just prefer he would go away and Pence would become president. I am fully aware that’s not going to happen.

  169. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    Odd, Robbie says 2/3rds, I haven’t met anyone who voted for Trump that wants him gone, and that includes many who voted AGAINST HILLARY (despite that choice NOT being on the ballot ).
    Simple fact is that politics is a dirty game, and Trump is not much different, except that he gets away with more “verbal miscues” than normal politicians.

    – Odd or you’re simply talking to the one third I suspect would be very unhappy if Trump was no longer president?

  170. Chicon says:

    Robbie, I have no objection to finding Trump boorish. For two reasons, we’re each entitled to our own standards in this regard, and because I agree he’s boorish. My view is that your feelings for Trump the person cloud your analysis of Trump the President.

  171. Cash Cow TM says:

    drain the swamp

    parted sham win
    paw shed train
    Dems wrath pain
    shrimp ate Dan W.
    sharp wind team

  172. jason says:

    “And as you know, I hope Trump resigns the presidency and allows Pence to become President.”

    “nor have I called for or demanded that Trump resign.”

  173. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Decision Desk HQ?Verified account
    @DecisionDeskHQ
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    13,787 votes have been cast in DeKalb as of 3pm, per the county elections office .#GA06

  174. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    ” Forgive me for being a devout Catholic who puts value in the sanctity of marriage.”
    -So you disliked Reagan?

    – As a Catholic, I don’t have any fondness for divorce. I wish it didn’t happen, but is there any evidence that Reagan was unfaithful to Nancy?

  175. Cash Cow TM says:

    polls close…close polls.

  176. jason says:

    I am fully aware that’s not going to happen.”

    But you feel compelled to regurgitate the MSM garbage anyway.

    There might be professional help available, it’s worth a shot.

  177. jason says:

    Wobbie has evidence Trump is unfaithful to Melania?

    Pray tell…..

  178. Chicon says:

    167 – go with your real wish – President Jeb!

  179. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 4:58 pm
    Robbie, I have no objection to finding Trump boorish. For two reasons, we’re each entitled to our own standards in this regard, and because I agree he’s boorish. My view is that your feelings for Trump the person cloud your analysis of Trump the President.

    – My judgment on Trump is clouded by the manner in which he has conducted himself as president. I don’t approve of it. If he’d simply tone down his act, most of the problems he’s inflicted on himself would go away.

  180. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #175- Add:
    Nate Silver- That seems low-ish? Looks like 32,430 votes were cast on election day in DeKalb on 4/18.
    6 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
    Reply 6 Retweet Like 18
    Decision Desk HQ?Verified account @DecisionDeskHQ 24m24 minutes ago
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    This is as of 3pm- at same point in April over 12,000 had been cast.

  181. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:00 pm
    “And as you know, I hope Trump resigns the presidency and allows Pence to become President.”
    “nor have I called for or demanded that Trump resign.”

    – Is “hope” the same as “demanding” or “calling for” something to happen? No, of course not.

  182. jason says:

    I have many objections to Trump.

    But he won. There is a bigger picture here. Something called the USA.

    Wobbie wants to stay mired in what he himself says are phony issues?

    Small minds love small concepts.

  183. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:03 pm
    167 – go with your real wish – President Jeb!

    – I’d have been happy with Presidents Jeb, Rubio, Romney, Kasich, and even Cruz.

  184. Chicon says:

    I’m with Robbie on the Trump v. Reagan boorishness scale. Trump had several divorces, Reagan had one. And there’s no evidence Reagan was a serial crotch-grabber.

  185. jason says:

    If he’d simply tone down his act, most of the problems he’s inflicted on himself would go away.”

    Ah yes, we always come back to the “if you are nice to terrorists they will be nice to you”

    THis is unmitigated garbage. The MSM will NEVER accept Trump as President. Nunca.

    This statement is the stupidest of the many stupid statements Wobbie makes.

  186. Phil says:

    Not sure what that means….other than the fact that DeKalb is the Democratic stronghold in the district. Not sure if that is a lot of votes or even if election day votes there or more Republican there than the EV. Assume so since in first round the Ossoff early vote DeKalb percentage was 71 percent. The election day number dragged him down to 58 percent I believe.

  187. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:05 pm
    I have many objections to Trump.
    But he won. There is a bigger picture here. Something called the USA.
    Wobbie wants to stay mired in what he himself says are phony issues?
    Small minds love small concepts.

    – Does Trump know the bigger picture is the USA? He seems to be concerned with only himself.

    As for me being mired in phony issues, how can I be mired in an issue I believe is phony?

  188. jason says:

    And there’s no evidence Reagan was a serial crotch-grabber.”

    Nor is there any evidence Trump is either.

  189. jason says:

    During the campaign I was much more bothered by Trump’s comments on McCain’s war record and on the “Mexican” judge than his private conversations with Billy Bush.

  190. NYCmike says:

    “– Odd or you’re simply talking to the one third I suspect would be very unhappy if Trump was no longer president?”

    -No, I don’t weed out family/friends/acquaintances by asking about Trump.

    In fact, many of them have mentioned the word “cringe” when speaking about him.

    The overwhelming opinion, though, is that any Republican would have been, and so far has been, better than Hillary and a continuation of Obama’s policies. Trump won, so let him be. Congress needs to do their job. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM!

  191. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:07 pm
    If he’d simply tone down his act, most of the problems he’s inflicted on himself would go away.”
    Ah yes, we always come back to the “if you are nice to terrorists they will be nice to you”
    THis is unmitigated garbage. The MSM will NEVER accept Trump as President. Nunca.
    This statement is the stupidest of the many stupid statements Wobbie makes.

    – Fine. Then Trump tweeting about everything and anything that pops into his mind, whether it’s on message or way, way off message, is helpful in your book. That tweet about Comey and tapes was real helpful wasn’t it.

    Amazing how you went from supporting a very on-message candidate in Romney in 2012 and Rubio in 2016 to defending a president who spends his day staying off message and totally reactive by tweeting about stories that are negative towards him.

  192. jason says:

    I’d have been happy with Presidents Jeb, Rubio, Romney, Kasich, and even Cruz.”

    You forgot Hillary.

  193. NYCmike says:

    I only brought up Reagan because he did get divorced once, and Robbie keeps spouting about Trump being such a horrible person…..I was not comparing the 2 at all in any other manner.

    Come to think of it, Trump’s children would be better witnesses for their Dad than Reagan’s children – should we hold that against Reagan?

  194. Chicon says:

    Robbie – the important part of Jason’s post is “he won.” He’s the same guy now that he was in the campaign (more so than most candidates), and the public elected the warts along with the rest.

  195. Cash Cow TM says:

    My sources tell me “Proud ObamacommieCon” has already typed up 50 extra long and venomous posts to unleash here on HHR when/if Ossoff wins today.

    Yes, ProudPObamacommieCon, I am watching you and your every MOOve.
    _________________________________________
    (He also has a case of MD 45 being chilled in case Ossoff loses and will drown his sorrows while he burns his 50 posts and toasts marshmallows.)

  196. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:08 pm
    And there’s no evidence Reagan was a serial crotch-grabber.”
    Nor is there any evidence Trump is either.

    – Are you really trying to claim Trump hasn’t had a long history of stepping out on his wives? I haven’t heard anything to suggest that about Melania, but Ivana and Marla Maples is another story.

  197. jason says:

    hen Trump tweeting about everything and anything that pops into his mind, whether it’s on message or way, way off message, is helpful in your book.”

    Zzzzzz… you are desperately lying now, the last refuge of a pathetic loser.

    I never said all his tweets were helpful.

    What I said is that tweeting is a legitimate way for him to counter what is an overwhelmingly hostile media and that it would be political suicide for him to give it up, since in essence we we would have Pravda all over again.

  198. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    It is times like these, when I almost feel the need to point out how badly you are describing jason’s attitude towards Trump, that you really get my goat.

    The media is actively pushing to remove a duly elected President, and you are worrying about his F’ING Tweets?!?

    GET A GRIP!

  199. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    I’d have been happy with Presidents Jeb, Rubio, Romney, Kasich, and even Cruz.”
    You forgot Hillary.

    – I’d have voted for her had I been happy with her. But nice try. Pretty weak effort on your part.

  200. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:13 pm
    Robbie – the important part of Jason’s post is “he won.” He’s the same guy now that he was in the campaign (more so than most candidates), and the public elected the warts along with the rest.

    – “He won” doesn’t mean I surrender my strongly held views.

  201. jason says:

    I haven’t heard anything to suggest that about Melania, but Ivana and Marla Maples is another story.”

    No, I never followed Trump when he was married to Ivana and Marla but I am sure you can dig in your MSM cesspool for something.

  202. Chicon says:

    Jason, the crotch-grabber was an attempt at humor.

  203. NYCmike says:

    CC

  204. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:15 pm
    Robbie,
    It is times like these, when I almost feel the need to point out how badly you are describing jason’s attitude towards Trump, that you really get my goat.
    The media is actively pushing to remove a duly elected President, and you are worrying about his F’ING Tweets?!?
    GET A GRIP!

    – And it’s time like these that I need to remind myself you’ve always been supportive of candidates who would have a destructive impact on the party.

  205. jason says:

    I guess maybe Wobbie’s point is that Trump should resign because perhaps he “stepped out” on Marla Maples?

    Okayyyy….

  206. jason says:

    ow can I be mired in an issue I believe is phony?”

    Considering you bring up tweets and Russia 100 times a day I got that impression.

    Wonder why….

  207. DW says:

    from RRH:

    Jon Henrik Gilhuus

    June 20, 2017 at 5:14 pm

    Heard from a Norwegian (liberal) friend of mine, who has Democratic friends on the ground in Georgia, that they’ve got problems getting young voters to the polls. Take it with a pinch of salt, but good news if correct.

  208. jason says:

    – “He won” doesn’t mean I surrender my strongly held views.

    Translation: it’s still all about Jeb.

  209. jason says:

    Hey, when I want to know how an election in GA is going I always consult with Norwegian liberals too.
    ?

  210. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:17 pm
    I haven’t heard anything to suggest that about Melania, but Ivana and Marla Maples is another story.”
    No, I never followed Trump when he was married to Ivana and Marla but I am sure you can dig in your MSM cesspool for something.

    – LOL. Trump actively promoted his promiscuous lifestyle in the 1980’s and the 1990’s. He used the fake names “John Miller” and “John Barron” to act as his own publicist. He even called a paper and claimed he was dating Carla Bruni.

    What about this cover?

    http://fair.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/NYPMaples.png

  211. Chicon says:

    Jason – I see Robbie’s point as this…he developed such a strong hate for Trump that the fact that Trump satisfies Robbie’s two biggest issues does nothing to alter this hate. And he would like his fellow posters to believe his points here are impartial, unbiased analysis.

  212. jason says:

    This could be anecdotal, but my llama took 3 dumps today instead of 2. She did this the day Gianforte won too.

    FWIW

  213. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    I guess maybe Wobbie’s point is that Trump should resign because perhaps he “stepped out” on Marla Maples?
    Okayyyy….

    – Among other things, I believe he is incompetent, unqualified, and a boorish clown. None of those are impeachable offenses though.

  214. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:20 pm
    ow can I be mired in an issue I believe is phony?”
    Considering you bring up tweets and Russia 100 times a day I got that impression.
    Wonder why….

    – I only mention Russian when Tina falsely claims I believe there is collusion or when I write that Trump should simply stop talking about the story because there’s no “there” to it.

  215. jason says:

    Trump actively promoted his promiscuous lifestyle in the 1980’s and the 1990’s.”

    Yes and this is extremely relevant now in 2017 when he is President, right?

    You are a pathetic joke.

  216. jason says:

    boorish clown.”

    I concede you would certainly know…

  217. jason says:

    nd he would like his fellow posters to believe his points here are impartial, unbiased analysis.”

    If I could believe the leftist media gets all their content from Wobbie I could actually agree.

    In which case we are wrong about Wobbie, he is actually VERY influential.

  218. Marv says:

    jason,

    Where did you see those GA-6 exit polls?

  219. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:25 pm
    Jason – I see Robbie’s point as this…he developed such a strong hate for Trump that the fact that Trump satisfies Robbie’s two biggest issues does nothing to alter this hate. And he would like his fellow posters to believe his points here are impartial, unbiased analysis.

    – No the case. My agitation with Trump would largely dissipate if he toned down the act and focused squarely on tax reform, healthcare reform, and judges. I can be just as transactional as he can.

    As for the final comment, where have I ever claimed I’m impartial or unbiased? Like everyone else here, I have strong views and state them.

  220. Cash Cow TM says:

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  221. Albert Hodges says:

    Stopping in today as I like to do every election day.

    I see Robbie is still here bitching about Trump.

    Any body who claims to be a conservative who isn’t happy with Trump is a fking idiot and has no clue what conservative means.

    The only conservatives who don’t support Trump OVERALL after 152 days of his administration are people who simply believe that everyone is stupid except for them OR who are globalists masquerading as patriotic Americans.

    President Trump was an answer from God for a world that He hasn’t given up on yet.

    Handel by 3 tonight.

    MAGA!

  222. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:27 pm
    Trump actively promoted his promiscuous lifestyle in the 1980’s and the 1990’s.”
    Yes and this is extremely relevant now in 2017 when he is President, right?
    You are a pathetic joke.

    – I simply love the fact you’re defending Trump by claiming his previous lifestyle is not relevant. I was asked why I find him, among other things, boorish and mentioned that I don’t approve of his promiscuous lifestyle while married.

  223. Cash Cow TM says:

    What if Handel wins by like 8-10 point or more?

    Can we then go out and beat up a few pollsters?

  224. jason says:

    Yeah, I think Trump’s married life in the 80’s is not relevant, especially since he has had a stable marriage to Melania for over a decade.

    There are bigger fish to fry.

  225. lisab says:

    The only conservatives who don’t support Trump OVERALL after 152 days of his administration are people who simply believe that everyone is stupid except for them OR who are globalists masquerading as patriotic Americans
    ——–

    both can be true

  226. Cash Cow TM says:

    In Brussels, another “Allahu Akbaradical” blew himself up…

    allegedly…

  227. jason says:

    There were much bigger things to worry about Trump than his marriage to Marla Maples, mainly that he was a Democrat. But even that is irrelevant now.

  228. JC says:

    What if Handel wins by like 8-10 point or more?

    Can we then go out and beat up a few pollsters?
    ———————

    1) That would mean that ‘No Party’ voters did not split 70-30 for Ossoff. More like 50-55 Ossoff.

    2) The polling industry has become useless. For what ever reason – biased, bad methodology, bad weighing, or republicans simply no longer picking up the phone for whatever reason – the polling industry consistently under-polls GOP strength.

    3) I thought Cows weren’t supposed to be violent? Have I been mislead?

  229. Cash Cow TM says:

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  230. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cows can get mad sometimes.

    Not just the ones with Mad Cow disease or super sensitive udders either…

  231. Cash Cow TM says:

    See you later, taters.

    Mrs. Walt is dragging Walt off the couch insisting they go take a walk.

    They are going to a park.
    It has LOTS of green grass.
    So I am gong along!
    Yum yum!

  232. DW says:

    Keep in mind that GA was quite slow at getting returns last fall on election night. Not as bad as New Hampshire, where they apparently hand-chisel the results onto stone tablets and then float them down river on wooden rafts the county seats where local officials copy them onto papyri with ancient quills and send them to capital city via carrier pigeon.

  233. Phil says:

    So am I correct that polls close in Ga 6 in an hour in Republican areas and an hour and a half in Democratic areas?

  234. Todd McCain says:

    That is correct.

  235. DW says:

    Yes…a judge ruled that the Dem area has to stay open until 7:30. They play to win. In NASCAR they say if a team isn’t cheatin’ they ain’t tryin’

  236. DW says:

    $50,000,000 spent on ONE house race. WOW. I recall watching prez election night coverage years ago…don’t remember the year, the candidates, or even the anchor for sure…might have been Chancellor or David Brinkley, but he was lamenting the fact that presidential races were now spending over a million dollars and how could the country survive if the little guy can no longer run when it costs this much.

  237. Wobbie says:

    Judges are not important.

    Let’s worry about tweets.

  238. Phil says:

    In the first round we got a dump of the entire early vote within 15 minutes after the polls from DeKalb. Cobb came in second around thirty minutes after closing and Fulton about 50 minutes after the closing.

  239. jason says:

    Mrs. Walt is dragging Walt off the couch insisting they go take a walk.”

    She thinks the view from that cliff overlooking the river is beautiful this time of day?

  240. Phil says:

    We should, therefore, have 60 to 65% of the total vote in by the end of the first hour after the poll closing. Of course, with the DeKalb closing delayed, who knows.

  241. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    239. Didn’t one of the counties have a computer problem (problem ballot) that delayed the results?

  242. Phil says:

    SD, yes, it was Fulton I believe and it effected the counting of the election day vote.

  243. Marv says:

    Standing by for an election thread…….over.

  244. Marv says:

    New thread

  245. janz says:

    So DeKalb is a Dem area? I’ll second what someone else already observed, about Dem precincts seemingly extending hours because of some glitch, long lines, etc. I remember that being the case in Nevada last year too.

  246. JC says:

    janz says:
    June 20, 2017 at 6:35 pm
    So DeKalb is a Dem area? I’ll second what someone else already observed, about Dem precincts seemingly extending hours because of some glitch, long lines, etc. I remember that being the case in Nevada last year too.
    ———————-

    Standard dem tactic.

    1) Find liberal judge
    2) Report booth ‘problems’ and ‘errors’
    3) Get voting time extended after all other areas have closed.
    4) Bus in voters.