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Murphy Crushing Guadagno in NJ

I think we can probably safely put away the gubernatorial seat in New Jersey for the Democrats based on a new poll from Monmouth University.

GOVERNOR – NEW JERSEY (Monmouth)
Phil Murphy (D) 53%
Kim Guadagno (R) 26%

It is probably not help Guadagno that Chris Christie is down to a whopping 15% job approval rating that includes only 30% of REPUBLICANS approving of his job. This poll was done July 6-9 among 758 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 9:49 am
Filed under: General | Comments (1,003)

1,003 Responses to “Murphy Crushing Guadagno in NJ”

  1. Waingro says:

    First!

  2. Waingro says:

    New healthcare bill outline released. Overall meh. But probably the best we can do at this point.

    I suppose they can always come back to cutting the taxes if revenue starts kicking in. Hopefully, that can get washed out a bit with overall tax reform. Now let’s see if Mitchy can get to 50….

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new-senate-republican-healthcare-plan-leaves-taxes-on-the-wealthy-in-place-lets-people-buy-less-expensive-plans/article/2628509

  3. Tina says:

    The Hill @thehill
    ·
    2h

    Dershowitz: I can’t believe The New York Times mentioned treason in an op-ed

    Jebots are fully committed to the muh russian

  4. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This will not sit well in the 2018 Indiana Senate race for Democrat incumbent, Joe Donnelly.
    https://apnews.com/6d7d48ba7ae3420982c313192549805f

  5. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    ·
    9m

    I know, truly remarkable stupidity.
    DeadpooI @DaggettBeaver
    Replying to @mitchellvii
    @CNN Chris Cuomo says the Hillary thing is entirely different because Ukraine is not Russia. I kid you not.

    #FakeNews #FakeNewsCNN

  6. Wes says:

    Rokita should be able to.take Donnelly out barring a Mourdock moment.

  7. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1499930118438.jpg

    boom
    Trump crafting legislation to reduce legal immigration by 50% and rescind DACA.

    Both things I said he should have been doing from the get go.

  8. Phil says:

    Is Rokita running, Wes. Getting these guys to run seems to be the problem.

  9. PresidentPaul! says:

    Unhinged Neocon War Propagandist Uses the “N” Word on Television

    Retired U.S. Army Colonel (a.k.a. military/industrial/spying complex employee) Ralph Peters, who has been a “special guest” on FOX News for years advocating new wars with, well, just about every other country in the world, said Tucker Carlson was like a Nazi sympathizer because Carlson opposes starting World War III with Russia.  (Carlson has teenaged sons, and is a little worried about the prospect of a World War III).
    Carlson pointed out that Peters was one of the bloodthirsty neocon war propagadists who claimed that the invasion of Iraq would make the Middle East “safer and more peaceful” and who also pushed the lie about “weapons of mass destruction.”

  10. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 13, 2017 at 10:45 am
    Is Rokita running, Wes. Getting these guys to run seems to be the problem.

    – Yes, but Like Messer is running as well so there will be a contested primary.

  11. PresidentPaul! says:

    George Bush’s corner stone achievement: creating ISIS looks to be never ending for which he keeps saddam’s pistol in his Bush museum to remind everyone.

    Pentagon Braces for ISIS Insurgency Once Mosul Falls

    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/07/12/pentagon-braces-for-isis-insurgency-once-mosul-falls

    Some Pentagon officials have been insisting for awhile that the defeat of ISIS would ultimately also mean the total extermination of ISIS, but even in Iraq, where the last meaningful swathes of ISIS territory are falling, the group doesn’t appear anything close to defeated, and Pentagon officials are starting to recognize that fact.

    Rather than ISIS being a defeated state without territory, the reality is that ISIS will just default back to what they were before they got that territory, a very powerful, and very dangerous, insurgency. The Pentagon confirms they’re expecting a big change in tactics as they move from fighting over land to dealing with landless insurgents.

  12. Wes says:

    I’d prefer it if Messer didn’t run, Robbie; but Republicans had a contest4ed primary for the Class 3 seat in 2013. Todd Young suffered no ill effects because of it and went on to defeat the most popular Dem in the state decisively.

  13. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 13, 2017 at 10:58 am
    I’d prefer it if Messer didn’t run, Robbie; but Republicans had a contest4ed primary for the Class 3 seat in 2013. Todd Young suffered no ill effects because of it and went on to defeat the most popular Dem in the state decisively.

    – I don’t have a problem with either running, I was just noting two House members had already announced runs.

  14. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump needs to kick Mattis, McMaster and Tillerson who are all advocating for a surge in Afghanistan off the Security council and put Bannon back on who rightly advocates withdrawal from the region.

  15. Jonesy says:

    Donnelly, while in the House, voted for Obamacare.

    That should be enough to beat him

  16. Tina says:

    Bannon is going to handle muh russian. It wont be pretty.
    Glad that he is not karl no contact rove aka canned ham.

  17. PresidentPaul! says:

    Dems trying to get Pence involved in this also.

    I think Pence represents a national security problem as VP anyways much like Bush was when he was office should he somehow end up as president, but whatever.
    He has terrible judgment on all issues: immigration, neoconservatism, etc

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-marc-lotter-fox-news-no-answer_us_5966f931e4b0a8d46d12100b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

  18. Robbie says:

    Missouri Senate continues to look like the gang that can’t shoot straight. David Drucker of Washington examiner says the state treasurer is in DC to meet with the NRSC and there is a belief among some that Hawley is now leaning “No” on a Senate run.

    If McCaskill dodges the bullet again in 2018, then she is the luckiest politician ever.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-missouri-treasurer-schmitt-in-town-to-talk-senate-challenge-to-mccaskill/article/2628529

  19. Tina says:

    Tucker took out max boot of cfr.

  20. Cash Cow TM says:

    In the new thread, if Russians are mentioned I will have a cow.

  21. PresidentPaul! says:

    New GOP Obamacare is another disaster.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-13/new-healthcare-bill-will-include-cruz-lee-amendment-and-45-billion-fight-opioid-epid

    Why can’t they just vote on a full repeal and get the moderates on record as opposing it to make things clear to the voters for the next primary rather than passing bad bills?

  22. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Natalia Veselnitskaya”

    a Latvian yak essential

  23. BayernFan says:

    Rokita and McCain are both running. Messer looks to have the support of most of the money….and Pence’s brother is supporting him, too. Messer has a bit of a “scandal” on his hands bc his wife is getting paid 6 figures by a small rich suburb of Indy for “doing nothing”. Rokita is probably going to try to come off as more of the “outsider’ candidate if that’s possible. He may try to outflank Messer on the right. Interestingly, they both went to my alma mater, a small all male liberal arts college in west central Indiana. Whoever the GOP nominates, provided he is well funded like Young was, will have a good shot at defeating Donnelly.

  24. gameboy says:

    #23…agreed, Just a simple yes or no vote to repeal the damn thing and move on. Let the chips fall where they may. The new bill is just an enhanced version of Obamacare. Why every single Dem is not on board with it is a mystery to me…..

  25. PresidentPaul! says:

    0.3% of migrants to Sweden find job or 1/3 of 1%.

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1499960797624.png

  26. Tina says:

    At macron oresser

    Natalias vida was prepared by lynch.

    Omg, jebots to implode.

  27. Tina says:

    John Cardillo @johncardillo
    ·
    1h

    .@McFaul you’re claiming that Loretta Lynch, who approved #Veselnitskaya’s parole letter to enter U.S. despite visa denials, was Republican?
    Michael McFaul @McFaul
    Replying to @RAMRANTS
    Because Republicans put her there.

    Lol, mcfaul. So not true

  28. Tina says:

    Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
    ·
    1h

    The big story on CNN continues to be that an event that didn’t happen violated a law that doesn’t exist. #NothingGate #ZombieLawyers

  29. jason says:

    I am not sure the intent by McCain wasn’t more to protect the GOP brand than to attack Trump

    Had the report been true, he would have averted a huge disaster for the GOP.

    He didn’t divulge it, he handed it to the FBI.

    I don’t have a problem with his actions if the dossier was offered to him, unless he deliberately was trying to dig up dirt on Trump, that would be another matter.

  30. jason says:

    Just a simple yes or no vote to repeal the damn thing and move on.”

    Zzzzz…

    Really stupid idea, fortunately it won’t happen.

  31. mnw says:

    MO Senate:

    Well I can tell you THIS for sure: GOP State Treasurer Eric Schmitt has about the same name recognition as my poor deceased dog.

    I hadn’t realized that Hawley ran an ad ridiculing somebody last time for “leaving the job they were just elected to do.” Ouch.

    I never cease to gaze in wonder at the sheer fecklessness and timidity of GOP elected officials in general. Most of them seem to have been born without the usual organs of reproduction.

  32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Zuckerberg visits North Dakota to learn about energy industry.”

    Have to say I am impressed with what Zuckerberg did. Hillary and Bernie would not have been caught dead around a fracking site.

    Also amazed at the common sense comment: “until renewables can provide most of our energy at scale, they (fracking) are providing an important service we all rely on, and they wish they’d stop being demonized for it.”

    Here is a more from The Hill article:

    “Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg visited North Dakota on Wednesday to learn more about the fracking and oil industries, further fueling speculation about the tech billionaire’s possible future in politics.

    In a lengthy Facebook post, the Facebook CEO wrote that it is “important” to understand “different perspectives” about the energy industry.

    “Today I’m in Williston, North Dakota learning about fracking and the community around it,” he wrote.

    “I believe stopping climate change is one of the most important challenges of our generation,” Zuckerberg continued. “Given that, I think it’s even more important to learn about our energy industry, even if it’s controversial.”

    Zuckerberg described meeting employees who worked for a fracking company, and learning how communities in North Dakota depend on controversial energy practices, like fracking, and the Dakota Access Pipeline, despite touting Facebook’s commitment to renewable energy.

    “The energy industry is at the center of politics here. When the Dakota Access Pipeline was approved, that removed $6-7 per barrel of cost from producing oil in the region, which brought more investment and jobs here,” he said.

    Despite his history of supporting renewable energy, Zuckerberg wrote about the dangers of “demonizing” people who work in energy industries such as oil and natural gas.

    According to Zuckerberg, the workers he met “believe competition from new sources of energy is good, but from their perspective, until renewables can provide most of our energy at scale, they are providing an important service we all rely on, and they wish they’d stop being demonized for it.”

  33. pitchaboy says:

    DJT and Rs deserve to get thrashed if they cannot accomplish one damn thing despite controlling everything. All his bragging of bringing everybody to the table is meaningless, if he cannot even unite his party. Retribution will be swift and severe in 11/2018.

  34. pitchaboy says:

    I am willing to bet that no laws were broken with this Russia thing; however, the constant lying by dJT and family that nobody met with these Russians wrecks any credibility the White House has.

  35. Tina says:

    No love for mcamnesty and obumbler in drudge.

  36. Tina says:

    The problem with the dossier is that it was put together by a foreigner, using Russian sources.

    So, russians were involved.

  37. JC says:

    @38

    To even suggest that doing opposition research could possibly be a crime is stupidity bordering on mental illness.

    What you are saying, is that every time the media publishes info gathered from a source – legally or not – like NSA documents from Snowden or hacked emails is a crime.

    Or you know, every time the media publishes leaks to try and damage Trump. Should we throw them in jail? Those info was gathered illegally after all.

    You’re suggesting that McCain, who tried to recover a fake Russian Dossier on Trump – made by the freakin’ KGB – committed a crime. Should we throw McCain in jail too?

    Of course not. In this country we have freedom of speech. Any suggestion of any wrongdoing here is just plain dumb.

    BTW, in case you haven’t noticed, the media is already starting to back off, as it is apparent this whole thing was likely a setup by Lynch to entrap Don Jr into justifying a fisa warrant for political spying. That’s why this so called Russian lawyer was given a visa by Lynch which was previously denied. And she purposely used buzz words to flag the NSA attention in an email, promising info of illegal behavior by Clinton.

    Stop being a media shill.

  38. JC says:

    @pitchboy

    What the hell do you call McCain and dems meeting a Foreign agent offering dirt on Trump with a fake, KGB made dossier?

    That’s fine to you.

    Don Jr. doing opposition research?

    How dare he!

  39. lisab says:

    don jr does not work for the government

    he is not a government employee

  40. Tina says:

    Benedict Ukraine MCain

  41. Pitchaboy says:

    Calm down JC and read straight. Your outburst borders on mental illness. I am referring to the fact that DJT and family categorically said on several occasions they did not meet with Russian emissaries. The shoes are dropping one by one. Stop being a Trump shill and learn objectivity.

  42. Pitchaboy says:

    Doing OR is fine. Repeatedly lying is not

  43. Tina says:

    Zzzz

    Repeated lying?

    Lol.

  44. Tina says:

    Meeting with ukranian gubment offficials is fine though.

    Cuomo says so.

  45. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    37. “DJT and Rs deserve to get thrashed if they cannot accomplish one damn thing despite controlling everything. All his bragging of bringing everybody to the table is meaningless, if he cannot even unite his party. Retribution will be swift and severe in 11/2018.”

    What a stupid comment. The economy is booming, illegal immigration is down, and Trump is beginning to assert American role in the world.
    The fact that the French President invited him to Bastille Day says something.

    Trying to get the Senate to pass things is like herding cats. But that’s part of our checks and balance system.

    Its fine your a troll, but you don’t have to be a nitwit too.

  46. Pitchaboy says:

    I voted DJT. While a whole lot of you were wetting your pants on Election Day, I am on record predicting his winning PA, MI and WI. Except for Gorsuch, the guy has been a disaster thus far.

  47. Pitchaboy says:

    And I remember SDC wetting his pants on Election Day.. talk about stupid cowards.

  48. Pitchaboy says:

    Anyone who has a slightly different view point is a troll. This site has been take over by actual trolls. Go piss in your collective pot.

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I did not vote for Trump, and although not a fan of his abrasive style, have to say like a lot of things he is doing. Is an improvement over the last president. It is substance over style.

  50. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    53. You and Trump seem to have some similarities.

  51. Robbie says:

    I see “whataboutism” is the talking point today.

  52. JC says:

    Pitchboy

    Repeated lying? Like what?

    The Trump administration (which Donjr is not apart of) said they did not collude. They did not say they never entered a state which may have had someone who knew a friend who had a twice removed cousin who’s ancestors originated from Russia.

    There is literally nothing anyone associated with Trump can do that won’t be hopelessly spun by the media as some great unethical tragedy. Even when that something is standard campaign operations. Why can’t you understand that?

    And I get sick when feckless Republicans go along with this liberal lunacy like the house trained obedient dogs that they are. And of course we have war fetish hawks like Graham running around tv claiming that Don jr could ‘end up in jail’. The guy knows he’s peddling BS.

    Screw these a holes. I’m just glad that these b@stards no longer run the Republican party anymore. It’s no wonder why we used to always lose.

  53. Robbie says:

    Many people are saying the Trump communications strategy is terrible.

    – Wednesday – Trump’s “700 Club” lawyer Jay Sekulow said, “He (Trump) was not aware, did not attend, and just found out about the emails — or saw the emails — yesterday.”

    Today – Trump onboard Air Force 1 said to the press about Don Jr.’s meeting “In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point”.

  54. Tina says:

    Pitch is right though, the republican congress is the weak link. They want to do nothing.

    The ky drunk is the weaker link. Ryan is only a follower.
    We ned a better leader in the senate.

  55. Tina says:

    As.far as muh russian goes, nobody cares, other than drat loons.

    Even newsome, a drst lt governor, is warning his fellow ds to stop it.

  56. Wes says:

    JC, Republicans used to always lose because they nominated unelectable idiots such as Chtidtine O’Donnell. It wasn’t till mainline Republicans fought back and helped Thom Tillis, Dan Sullivan, Shelley Capito, and Todd Young among others secure nominations the GOP actually started winning,

  57. Tina says:

    The problem with natavia is she was almost lap dancing on obamas amabassador lap and she is pictured with, or it has been reported meeting with congress.

    Mccain needs to be removed from any review of muh russia. If mitchie had anything downthefe, he would do it, but he wont.

  58. Tina says:

    I like rs that fight back and can move policy.

    Neither mitchie nor ryan meet that.

  59. Tina says:

    Mccain needs to go under oath and testify why he sought out a foreigner, who in turn used russian sources to creat a fake dossier.

  60. Tina says:

    Fake news edits out trump blasting lynch.

  61. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 13, 2017 at 4:47 pm
    JC, Republicans used to always lose because they nominated unelectable idiots such as Chtidtine O’Donnell. It wasn’t till mainline Republicans fought back and helped Thom Tillis, Dan Sullivan, Shelley Capito, and Todd Young among others secure nominations the GOP actually started winning,

    – The takeaway of 2014 was, if the party gets involved early and defines the nuts, the mainline candidates win the primary and the general. But why do that when you can have real conservatives like COD, Angle, Buck, Akin, and Mourdock?

  62. Tina says:

    Poor fake news

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mike-ciandella/2017/07/13/fake-history-cnns-zeleny-says-bastille-day-wwi-anniversary

    Thry did not even know what athem was olaying.

    They must be hiring a lot of basement singletons.

  63. Robbie says:

    Many people are saying Donald Trump Jr. lied in his first comment about the meeting with the Russian lawyer.

  64. Tina says:

    Federal appeals court appears doubtful that a monkey who took a selfie can sue
    latimes.com

    The 9th Circus Court should actually be very favorable to monkeys.

  65. Tina says:

    Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT
    Macron says next question should go to an American jounralist, as Trump makes the call. Trump doesn’t call on American journalist.

    Ooor Maggie Hack. Go gush over obama.

  66. Wes says:

    Washington State has one Senator who believes Osama bin Laden built hospitals and another who doesn’t look to see how Medicaid is spelled on her own cue card.

    Washingtonians seem to have a low opinion of themselves.

  67. Tina says:

    You cannot defend it because there is no,law backing it.

    Just lawlessness.

  68. Tina says:

    I am sure there will not be months and months of dan quayleism.

  69. Tina says:

    Well looks like trump is 3-3 on these foreign trips.

    Time to queque more muh russian

  70. Robbie says:

    Suckers! Trump just shot his base on Fifth Avenue. Before this is over, his plan will be to the left of Jeb’s plan or Rubio’s plan. Ha! Suckers.

    Jonathan Martin?
    @jmartNYT 24m
    24 minutes ago

    Wow, Trump on AF 1:

    “What I’d like to do is a comprehensive immigration plan. But our country & political forces are not ready yet.”

  71. Tina says:

    Fake news by rottie.

  72. Robbie says:

    Somewhere, Laura Ingraham is screaming into a pillow.

  73. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 13, 2017 at 5:28 pm
    Fake news by rottie.

    – Bless your heart. Your main man T going to shoot your political dreams on Fifth Avenue.

  74. Robbie says:

    Has anyone checked on Ann Coulter? I worry for her health after she reads about Trump’s desire for comprehensive immigration reform.

  75. Robbie says:

    A proud moment for the GOP, the party of Lincoln, Ike, and Reagan.

    Adrian Gray?
    @adrian_gray

    Positive ratings (among GOP):

    Putin 34%
    Congress 26%

  76. Tina says:

    What is flubs approval rating a ong rs?

    2 percent

  77. Tina says:

    Ted Lieu @tedlieu

    Fun fact: Nixon was impeached for the cover-up. And several folks close to him went to prison.

    Uh, fake comment.

  78. Tina says:

    These jebot congressional critters are dumb.

    One canmot spell and the other rewrote history.

  79. Tina says:

    Maggie hack and the other obama media bots cannot complain about no access to the president.

  80. Tina says:

    I forgot, guam will tip over too. Add a third statement from the drat congressional critters.

  81. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 13, 2017 at 5:46 pm
    These jebot congressional critters are dumb.
    One canmot spell and the other rewrote history.

    – “One canmot spell”. Hmm.

  82. Tina says:

    I. ust be required reading.

    I like living rent free.

  83. Tina says:

    – Trump 1 hour press remarks from yesterday
    – Trump/Macron presser today
    – Trump/Robertson interview

    Just flooding the zone.

  84. Tina says:

    Stephen Hayes Retweeted

    Bill Kristol @BillKristol
    ·
    5h

    To point out the obvious, credit for Paul Ryan’s apparent move to an enlightened dress code has to go to the bold and intrepid @jlifhits.

    Everything this socialist son advocates is wrong.

  85. Robbie says:

    Edging closer and closer to a virtual wall that’s in our hearts.

    Betsy Woodruff?
    @woodruffbets

    Trump says the wall should be seethrough so people don’t get hit in the head w bags of drugs that get thrown over it

  86. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    70. “Many people are saying Donald Trump Jr. lied in his first comment about the meeting with the Russian lawyer.”

    They may have a point.

  87. Tina says:

    See through for solar purposes. Try to catch up.

    Notice how desperate the open borders crowd is, once daca ismthreatened.

  88. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 13, 2017 at 6:18 pm
    See through for solar purposes. Try to catch up.

    – LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  89. Tina says:

    Lol, the wall is being built. He never claimed thst it would go the entire border.

    Try to,keep,uo, younare an embarassment for a kos kid.

  90. Tina says:

    The jebot is triggered because daca is gone.

    Loves amnestia.

  91. Tina says:

    And the wall is getting built.

  92. Tina says:

    As a jebot, you should like the wall since the legilation passed under 43.

  93. Phil says:

    The wall just prevents acts of love from happening, hence the wall is evil.

  94. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina thinks it is a big issue Obama let the Russian lawyer into the country but it not a big issue that Trump met with her.

    I love this place.

  95. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump, Jr met with her.

  96. Phil says:

    Neither is a big issue.

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    I think it was srioid to meet her. Of course, I would have met with Satan to beat Hillary but my last name is not Trump.

  98. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:07 pm
    The wall just prevents acts of love from happening, hence the wall is evil.

    – I don’t think the wall’s evil. I’ve said for years here I don’t care one way or the other about the wall. Immigration isn’t even a top 5 issue for me.

    I do love how he’s setting the stage to shoot his political base in the middle of Fifth Avenue with comprehensive immigration reform though.

  99. Phil says:

    Not a big issue either way regardless of what CNN says.

  100. Phil says:

    It’s a big issue if you live in my state an have to spend nine thousand per illegal immigrant child. I’m paying for that which is ridiculous – then of course there is the health care cost. They broke into the country and I have to pay for them? What’s wrong with this picture?

    Jeb can stick it. Glad he’s finished.

  101. Phil says:

    …an then there is the cost of incarceration of criminal illegals. I pick up the tab for that one too.

  102. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:10 pm
    Neither is a big issue.

    – The Trump Jr. meeting is a big deal. I’ll leave aside what was said in the email, but, if nothing else, the meeting totally contradicted six months of denials from Trump that no one he knew had any contact with Russians. As it turned out, his son, son-in-law, and campaign chairman had done so. And if you want to chalk up Don Jr’s acceptance to naiveté, Manafort certainly knew how wrong the meeting was.

  103. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:16 pm
    It’s a big issue if you live in my state an have to spend nine thousand per illegal immigrant child. I’m paying for that which is ridiculous – then of course there is the health care cost. They broke into the country and I have to pay for them? What’s wrong with this picture?
    Jeb can stick it. Glad he’s finished.

    – Sorry the issues that face Kentucky aren’t the same as though that affect all of the big, brash cowboys of Texas.

  104. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1499988003911.jpg

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  105. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1499979213607.jpg

    Whale murders progressive

  106. Phil says:

    I don’t want to chalk it up to anything. I couldn’t care less. It’s great for the alliance of Democrats and Never Trumpers like yourself to score political points against Trump, but the fact remains was that it was a twenty minute meeting in which nothing was offered and nothing was gained. It’s all political gotch you. Nothing more nothing less. You talk about your “top five issues” This hardly makes mine. Country has real problems. This aint one of them.

  107. Phil says:

    You don’t have to be “a big brash cowboy” to be concerned about our state issues you dick.

    Now FO.

  108. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump calls Macron’s elder wife ‘beautiful’ and ‘in good shape’

    http://www.politico.eu/article/trump-calls-macrons-wife-beautiful-and-in-good-shape

    What’s he gonna say when he meets with Merkel now?

  109. Tina says:

    Neither is an issue, bl. But you make no comment about hillary and ukraine.

  110. PresidentPaul! says:

    Immigration helping to power up the welfare state in Europe like in USA.

    Half of Turks in Germany Do Not Work, Majority ‘Not Interested in a Job’

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/13/half-turks-germany-economically-inactive/

  111. Robbie says:

    “It’s a great alliance for Democrats and Never Trumpers”. Ha!

    I’m sorry I don’t share your fervor for immigration, but it’s not an issue that moves the needle with me and I’ve written that here for years and years.

    But if venting about Jeb makes you feel better, go for it. Just don’t be too upset when Trump pushes comprehensive immigration reform that looks a lot like Jeb’s plan and Marco’s plan.

  112. Tina says:

    They talked about afoption. And why did congress critters, stafferts and the obama ambassador meet with her or be photographed with her.

    Answer the questiins and trll us what laws were broken.

    Otherwise, stfu.

  113. Phil says:

    Hillary always gets a pass from the Never Trumpers. That’s just a given.

  114. Tina says:

    And yes, its strange that lynch ket her into the country., bl. Her vida had expired.

    There are too many strange things about her thst are not adding up.

  115. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:28 pm
    You don’t have to be “a big brash cowboy” to be concerned about our state issues you dick.
    Now FO.

    – You’ve got your priorities in Texas. I’ve got mine in Kentucky. You’re the one who got upset and wrote “Jeb can stick it. Glad he lost.” What did that have to do with my indifference about a border wall?

  116. Tina says:

    Yup, hillary always gets a pass. Nothing to see there. Never trumpers look like sheot. One standard for Rs and another no standard for ds

    It is all about their foreign wars

  117. Tina says:

    Jeb can stick it and he will never be president. The bushs can hope that jebs son, whomwent tomtexas in order to win, can maybe be president or get a higher office

  118. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:33 pm
    Neither is an issue, bl. But you make no comment about hillary and ukraine.

    – Here’s my comment about Hillary: SHE LOST THE ELECTION. SHE’S NOT PRESIDENT. SHE’S A PRIVATE CITIZEN NOW. I DON’T CARE ABOUT HER ANYMORE.

  119. Tina says:

    Jebs plan was open borders.

    He would not have deported m13 or illegals.

    Now, they are being eounded up and sent packing.

    Now, illegals are scared to even try to enter.

    Act of love.

  120. Tina says:

    Thank you cuomo.

  121. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump FBI nominee says Mueller and democratic hitmen lawyers doing a he.ll of a job at testimony

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1499988335094.jpg

  122. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:34 pm
    Hillary always gets a pass from the Never Trumpers. That’s just a given.

    – Hillary lost the election. “Whataboutism” is just a deflection.

  123. Tina says:

    In drat world, ok for hillary to use ukrainian. And russian officials regarding the dossier. Not ok for trump jr to discuss russian adoption.

  124. Phil says:

    ferver for immigration.

    It’s ILLEGAL immigration.

    Like most Jebsters you like to gloss over the difference. Anyone opposed to the illegal part of it is painted as anti immigrant. Dishonest but I get what your doing.

    …and Marco was fine with me, BTW. I supported him and I trusted him on making securing the border a real part of comprehensive reform. I don’t trust someone to do that who when the issue is brought up fails to address it and throws out that “act of love” crap.

  125. Tina says:

    The fbi director also says he may ooen an investigation into hillary and ukraine, bubu.

  126. Tina says:

    Illegal immigration is a problem. Jebots do not care. Amnsesty, la raza, m 13 are all good.

  127. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie- if deep state takes down Trump, doesn’t that prove me right that Ron Paul should have been the nominee in 2012 with his pledge to fire all of deep state immediately?

  128. Tina says:

    Does treason include a member of congress using a foreigner to get information sourced by russians.

  129. Robbie says:

    Phil

    I didn’t gloss over anything. Immigration (a word that’s a catch-all for the entire issue) isn’t a top priority for me.

  130. PresidentPaul! says:

    #137

    The Race changed their named to UnidosUS this week.

  131. Tina says:

    Supporting hillary is a top priority

    Jebot.

  132. Robbie says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:42 pm
    Robbie- if deep state takes down Trump, doesn’t that prove me right that Ron Paul should have been the nominee in 2012 with his pledge to fire all of deep state immediately?

    – No.

  133. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 13, 2017 at 7:44 pm
    Supporting hillary is a top priority
    Jebot.

    – Bless your heart.

  134. Tina says:

    M13 and the central american gangs are a big problem.

    And mr. Mafia down south did not help much with their drugs pouring across the birder.

  135. PresidentPaul! says:

    I think it does prove me right that Ron Paul should have been the nominee, and republicans primaries naive about the existence deep state as a threat.

  136. Tina says:

    We have a huge problem with the border. After 9-11 bush shoukd have sealed it. But he failed, like his presidency.

  137. Tina says:

    Yeah, rube paul should be the nominee, bubu.

  138. Tina says:

    I like these changes.

    Gorka foreign policy and muh russian.

    Sarah sanders press secretary. She is bad arse.

    Jay Sekulow muh russian legal matters

  139. Phil says:

    No. Big difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration. I’m sick of having the distinction glossed over. It’s done by the left and their minions in the MSM all the time and it’s done for a purpose – to discredit those who have legitimate concerns to borders being violated by implying that they are flat out anti immigration implying they are just a bunch of bigots against foreign born people. Hard to argue for illegal immigration so they just accuse you of being against all immigrants. I’m sick of it.

  140. PresidentPaul! says:

    “We have a huge problem with the border. After 9-11 bush shoukd have sealed it. But he failed, like his presidency.”

    Bush campaigned on open borders and amnesty though.

  141. PresidentPaul! says:

    #148
    I assume you voted for McCain in 2008.

    That makes you insane.

  142. PresidentPaul! says:

    Sen. Rand Paul on the new Obamacare bill – Bailing out insurance companies “not who we are as Republicans”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALWMRifeIY

  143. Phil says:

    BTW, for the record so there will be no misunderstanding, our best friends and next door neighbors are Hispanic “immigrants” Nicest people you would ever want to meet. Watched the house day in day out while we were in the hospital for two months last year. Kept our dog, arranged for our yard to be done and I am just scratching the surface. We would have done the same for them. They are immigrants and we are richer for having them in our state and community. They came legally, however and that is absolutely just AOK with us. They are not illegally here. They waited their turn. Oh, and they aren’t any less opposed to illegal immigration than we are. In fact, they are more opposed since they actually had to go through the waiting process. Immigration and ILLEGAL immigration – two completely different animals despite what CNN would like you to believe.

  144. PresidentPaul! says:

    The new Republican bill subsidizes insurance industries/= and the death spiral that is Obamacare, which is what Rand Paul is opposing.

  145. Robbie says:

    Phil

    I certainly have never taken your stance on immigration as being anti-immigrant and I doubt anyone who posts here does either. But as I wrote in 109, immigration is not a top 5 issue for me. It’s not a key factor in how I judge the acceptability of a candidate.

  146. PresidentPaul! says:

    hmmm…My top issues

    #1 issue is always stopping Neoconservatism and also stopping torture and war crimes. These issues all blend together.
    #2 decreasing both illegal and legal immigration
    #3 judges
    #4 stopping bad legislation from passing, which actually stopping ALL legislation from passing since it’s always bad regardless of party.
    #5 tax cuts

  147. Phil says:

    Robbie,

    Ok, fair enough.

  148. PresidentPaul! says:

    Probably would have had a slightly different top 5 list in 2008 and 2012 though just because Paul was in the race then whereas it wasn’t realistic to hope for such an aggressive agenda in 2016.

  149. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – You brought up Obama letting her in, not me.

    If you don’t care about Trump and Russians, then don’t get worked up over Hillary and Ukrainians. Personally, I think the meetings by both campaigns with foreigners was a bad idea but not illegal based on what is known.

  150. Bitterlaw says:

    I would increase legal immigration but immigration does not make my top 5 issues.

  151. Tina says:

    Bl, that is not what you originally wrote. i am curious as to who she is.

  152. Tina says:

    I am more concerned about her meeting senators and lap dancing with the obama ambassador, bl. She was seated in the ambassadors seating area.

    Of course, he is now blaming republicans for where she was seated, which is ba.

  153. Tina says:

    Uh oh

    Glenn Simpson, founder of oppo firm behind Trump/Russia dossier, plans to REFUSE TO TESTIFY before

  154. PresidentPaul! says:

    Jeb 2.0 running in 2020 only for the dems?

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1499989352526.jpg

  155. PresidentPaul! says:

    McConnell told moderates to support health-care bill WITH Medicaid cuts b/c they’ll never go into effect anyway:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-health-202/2017/07/13/the-health-202-doctors-make-last-ditch-effort-to-sink-gop-health-care-bill/59665cf3e9b69b7071abcb1c/?utm_term=.d4d624afb63e

    Make no mistake: they want the entire 2016 election to have been about a giant insurance company bailout to keep Obamacare afloat.

  156. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Por la raza todo, fuera de la raza nada” — “For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing.”

    http://www.unidosus.org/about-us/who-we-are

    “Janet Murguía?
    @JMurguia_Unidos
    Follow
    More
    I’m excited to announce that the National Council of La Raza will now be UnidosUS”

  157. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina- If you are worried about who she might be, why are you not worried that she met with Trump, Jr.

  158. Tina says:

    Trump jr is not a governmental official. Youncan see the differnce, riight?

  159. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Trump, Jr. meeting was stupid, but not illegal.

    It appears to be becoming past news, and Trump opponents will have to move on to the next outrage of the day. Am sure Trump will duly give them a new one — he is very generous in that regard.

  160. Tina says:

    Btw, way to go house rs.

    Pass transgender surgery for mikitary.

    Way to go ryano.

  161. Tina says:

    Also, if it were ilkegal for him, why was it ok for her to be seated next tomthe ambassador? Why did she apparently meet with congressional staffers.

    Why was she let in last moment?

    All fair questions.

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    Sure, Tina. You hate Obama so it was wrong. You love Trump so it was ok. I see the difference.

  163. Tina says:

    And she met with Rohrabacher too.

    Something is not addi ng up here

  164. Tina says:

    No, bl, you either have a standard for all, but not a standard for one and not the other.

    If it were illegal why?

    If it was legal, then tou are wastimg everybodys time.

  165. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t think it was illegal for anybody to meet with her. You are making the distinction.

  166. Tina says:

    I believe obama wiretapped teump and trump transition officials.

    I believe they are panicked because Hillary did not win.

    Imcannot understand why he did nothing to russia, who he claimed interfered. On 11/16, he told putin that it was all good.

  167. Tina says:

    bl, we do nit disagree then?

  168. Tina says:

    It you should be concerned that the media has stated donny bad, clinton good for ukraine.

    It is either bad, illegal, or legal, good.

  169. Tina says:

    The media is so unreliable and jebot,laps it up as fact when theynhave been wrong consistently.

  170. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Don’t believe it was coincidental that the Barnum & Bailey circus shut down at the same time that Trump went on his tweet spree. He stole their audience. To stand any chance in 2020 the Democrats cannot nominate a dull and mundane candidate — and unfortunately at this point that is all they have.

  171. Phil says:

    SD,

    Your new senator seems to be all in on forging a path to the nomination at least as far as doing anything she can to get there. Following the Obama less than one term in the senate path. I don’t know much about her except that she is super ambitious and a raging Marxist.

    God help us all if that happens.

  172. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 13, 2017 at 9:18 pm
    And she met with Rohrabacher too.

    Something is not addi ng up here

    – Rohrabacher is a prominent advocate for Putin. Just Google the two names.

  173. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    177. “I don’t think it was illegal for anybody to meet with her.”

    She can meet with anyone she wants, and tell them dirt about any politician. For that matter, believe Putin had the right to call either Clinton or Trump and badmouth their opponent. To have collusion there needs to be cooperative action.

  174. Kid Rock says:

    Fukk yall . Hell yeah vote for me fukkas!

  175. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    183. “I don’t know much about her except that she is super ambitious and a raging Marxist.

    Phil, I live in California and know almost nothing about her; she did nothing as attorney general that I can recall. It is like Obama, a no-name becomes a fade for the Democrats.

    Tech is getting very uncomfortable with the Marxists. They expected Hillary to win, and were scared of Sanders. Believe it is why Zuckerberg is showing signs of being interested. He is doing it smartly; going to North Dakota and standing on a fracking pad with a hard hat on. Am expecting the greens to go bonkers.

  176. Kid Rock says:

    Fukk dat man Zuckberg is a pussy!

  177. Tina says:

    Hillary is a prominent advocate for putin. She used a dossier tied to russians

  178. Tina says:

    Muh russian is dying.

    What should be done iis subpoenas for fusion, crowd strike, and indict the leakers. .

  179. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    3h

    Replying to @_tiptoeing_ and @sdonabedian7
    They will keep the senate. Unless they find better candidates, they may only pick up one against the Dems, which is absolutely pathetic.

    Congressional rs are a disaster.

  180. lisab says:

    the dems will be happy if they lose two or less seats

    if thy lose more than 4 the dems will be very unhappy

    the reverse is true for the reps

  181. I love Donald Trump says:

    I don’t want the republicans to pass their bill. If the American people want Obamare, let them keep it. I don’t care. We have a Christian healthcare sharing plan. We love it.

  182. lisab says:

    zuckercan can run

    but … would it be wise to have someone with access to so much personal information as president?

  183. lisab says:

    “We have a Christian healthcare sharing plan. We love it.”

    you have not faced a million dollar hospital bill either

    you might not like it then

  184. Trump says:

    Retard Robbie,

    Take your little doll to your mother and show mommy where the big bad trump hurt.

  185. Wes says:

    Mandel has now led Brown in three straight polls. I’d love to see the GOP claim Brown’s scalp…

    …and Tester’s…

    …and Heitkamp’s…

    …and McCaskill’s…

    …and Baldwin’s…

    …and Stabenow’s…

    …and Casey’s…

    …and Heinrich’s…

    …and King’s…

    …and Nelson’s…

    …and Kaine’s…

  186. Phil says:

    Wes, what is your assessment of getting Brown’s Ohio seat? I was always of the belief that his would be hard given he is a liberal populist type and would run particularly good in working class counties of Ohio.

  187. I love Donald Trump says:

    #196
    What would be the odds of anyone having a million dollar medical bill? I’ll take a chance. It’s cheaper than buying insurance. By the way, insurance companies decline payments everyday.

  188. Trump says:

    Kid Rock for senate.

    Also known as More Trump.

  189. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 13, 2017 at 10:26 pm
    Retard Robbie,

    Take your little doll to your mother and show mommy where the big bad trump hurt.

    – I have to admit, this made me laugh.

  190. Tina says:

    Rush limbaugh did not have medical. He paid his hospital bill. This was years ago, i think he was in hawaii.

  191. Tina says:

    Mandel is good. I woukd have oreferred that kasich take the seat.

  192. Tina says:

    Mandel is polling well and president trump is at 53 percent. According tomthat polling firm, he is the most popular in the state right now.

  193. Tina says:

    Lil macaron appears to have a man crush in trump.

  194. Tina says:

    Gorka: Hillary campaign sent operative to Ukrainian embassy to collect oppo research, then coordinated w foreign government to attack Trump

    Kaboom.

  195. lisab says:

    What would be the odds of anyone having a million dollar medical bill? I’ll take a chance
    ———————-

    that is the whole point of having insurance. if you sprain your ankle you can pay for it yourself.

    if you get or someone in your family gets kidney disease and requires dialysis or gets cancer etc etc. is why you need insurance.

  196. Bitterlaw says:

    Insurance is a waste of money until you need it. Then it is worth everything you paid.

  197. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    194. “We have a Christian healthcare sharing plan.”

    Am curious what that is? Have seen websites mentioning it. Does it involve an actual fund of money, or are people expected to donate when someone needs money for their medical costs?

    A trip to the emergency room can cost $30,000,and often a lot more. People do rack up million dollar medical bills. Getting into a hospital without proper insurance in this day and age is a challenge. Sorry, but I think anyone who does not have adequate medical insurance is a fool.

  198. Wes says:

    Phil, if Mandel keeps polling this way, I think the odds of his beating Brown are excellent. Ohio has lurched GOP in recent years, and Brown is the antithesis of its voters’ ideology. Assuming Mandrl avoids his giant missteps of 202, I think he can take Brown out.

  199. Phil says:

    I see this is a rematch and Brown won by six in 2012 in a year Obama carried the state by 4. However, as you say, Mandel made some gaffs plus you are right about the state moving right. Also, with Obama not at the top of the ticket black vote should be down a significant amount. Mandel has a great biography.

  200. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Oh No. Trump has converted Macron into a Trump clone. Bet he is giving him twitter training as well.

    “France announced an “action plan” Wednesday to “systematically” deport illegal economic migrants and cut the processing time for asylum requests.

    President Emmanuel Macron has described the French migrant system as “completely overwhelmed” with 40 percent of asylum seekers living on the streets. The country received 85,000 asylum requests in 2016, which has flooded parts of the country with homeless migrants.

    Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said 12,500 homes and shelters will be added within the next two years. The maximum processing time will be cut from 14 to six months and systematic deportations of failed migrants will be launched.”

  201. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bunu,the anti-Semite is happy this morning.
    This is a major incident at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/BREAKING-Stabbing-attack-at-Lions-Gate-Jerusalem-499691

  202. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    C. Thomas and N. Gorsuch warned about this exact thing happening in their Travel Ban dissent. CJ Roberts is linguine-spined and believes in consensus above all.
    This Hawaii Judge is a real work of jurisprudence(sarc)!

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/hawaii-judge-orders-loosening-of-trump-travel-ban-1500004506

  203. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    No data yet on this Missouri Senate poll, but Skyking McCaskill cannot poll better than the low 40’s and she is currently advertising a lot.
    Wait until the GOP opens up on her.

    CFG poll shows McCaskill vulnerable in 2018. She trails Hawley, 46% to 42%. https://t.co/8nimgdbT0N

  204. Bitterlaw says:

    Sometimes you need consensus building to get to 5 votes.

  205. I love Donald Trump says:

    I have had insurance claims denied. We are Christians so our healthcare sharing plan is perfect for my family.

  206. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/bucks-missing-men-cadaver-dogs-12-feet-underground-20170713.html

    This ended like most people expected. At least he confessed and the families can bury their sons.

  207. MichiganGuy says:

    Test

  208. Tina says:

    Any Muh Russian today?

    Where are th loons?

  209. Tina says:

    Glenn simpson of fusion agreed to testify and now he won’t. Grassley needs to issue a subpoena.

  210. Tina says:

    Obumblercare taxes to remain in senate bill?

    Nothing surprises me with the ky drunk.

  211. Wes says:

    Sheeple, I don’t think McCaskill realizes how toxic she’s become in Missouri. She was never popular to begin with but caught a wave in 2006 and could sit back and relax as Akin disqualified himself after Republicans nominated him at her request.

    The MOGOP is stronger now than in those years and is actively seeking a non-Akin to run against her. As such, I think McCaskill loses decisively.

  212. Waingro says:

    #221, Tina. Kind of.

    “NBC NEWS: Another person was in the Don Jr meeting; a former Soviet counter-intelligence officer suspected of current ties to Russian intel”

    https://twitter.com/stevekopack/status/885818395865886720

  213. Tina says:

    I read that wain, he was a state dept contractor.

    That is significant.

  214. Tina says:

    Presumably, he had clearance of some kind, if he was a contractor. His contracted ended un september.

  215. Tina says:

    Trump Jr. creating more legal problems with Twitter likes
    thinkprogress.org

    This is the smoking gun, jebot must be sleeping. /s

  216. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #225- Wes. Agreed. Hawley or Wagner would defeat Skyqueen by 15% and others by high single digits.

  217. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 14, 2017 at 9:30 am
    #221, Tina. Kind of.
    “NBC NEWS: Another person was in the Don Jr meeting; a former Soviet counter-intelligence officer suspected of current ties to Russian intel”
    https://twitter.com/stevekopack/status/885818395865886720

    – Maybe adoption means something different in Russian?

  218. Robbie says:

    Many people are saying the Don Jr. meeting with Russians about adoption wasn’t about adoption.

  219. Bitterlaw says:

    I set the over/under on the Tina/Robbie fight today at 127 posts. It is Friday so I will take the under.

  220. Diamond Jim says:

    I never thought the posting would get as monotonous as it was between Chekote and EphRove, but here we are.

  221. Tina says:

    Lol, bl, but the jebot is beyond stupid.

  222. Tina says:

    Lots of people.

    Lol.

    Name them

  223. Phil says:

    “Some people”

    Let me guess who that would be:

    Chuckie Schumer

    Tim Kaine

    MSM led by our friends at the NYT, Washington Post, and CNN plus our trusted pals at MSNBC

    John McCain and the McMuffin man

    John Colbert

    the gals on The View

    Mika and Joe

    All of which don’t have the faintest idea.

  224. Tina says:

    Hawaiian judge modifies 9-0 sc decision.

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    Diamond Jim – It is amazing how many posts we have every day. I know that sites like this are probably pretty rare these days but I am not leaving until the freak show closes.

  226. Tina says:

    John Mccain is now known as Benedict ukraine.

  227. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 14, 2017 at 10:13 am
    “Some people”

    – It was “many people” and it was a take-off of Trump’s habit of using that phrase when he levels charges that often lack substance.

  228. Tina says:

    Actually, compared to cth, this site has very little posts each day. It is dying since the sa cannot update it. Pretty weak posts of three sentences.

  229. Tina says:

    The ufo is leaving any moment, jebot. Take it.

  230. Robbie says:

    Here’s an example, Phil.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Many people are saying that the Iranians killed the scientist who helped the U.S. because of Hillary Clinton’s hacked emails.

  231. jason says:

    Many people are saying the Don Jr. meeting with Russians about adoption wasn’t about adoption.”

    LOL

    “Many people” – Wobbie’s fake news MSM friends to which he is attracted to like a maggot to roadkill.

  232. Tina says:

    Usually, there is muh russia before trumps international trips and then after (leaving and returning). Without failure, nbc does an incomplete article, failing to note the name of the translator as well as occupation until last September.

  233. jason says:

    “former counter-intelligence officer suspected of current ties to Russian intel”

    Wow….

    “former”…. “current”… “suspected”…..”ties”

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  234. Tina says:

    Hint, state department contractor. Contractor had some clearance.

    Contrwctor was known in congressional circuses.

    Why do I haleays have to be the ine to knock down these garbage stories?

  235. Tina says:

    Circles not circus. I was thinking of how bad the r congress is and hiw awful that hawaiian judge is.

  236. Tina says:

    Whoops, bl to attack me for attacking a lawyah.

  237. Phil says:

    When Trump and this Russian thing it comes down somewhere between Robbie and his let’s drive Trump out of office Republican establishment friends and troll poster “Trump” and his constant Trump “cruising to reelection” line of bullsh*t.

    I maintain the meeting is a political problem for Trump. Undeniable. As far as substance of the meeting no one got anything out of that meeting – the Trump campaign or the Russians. No evidence whatsoever of that and if the Russians did provide actual dirt on the Clintons where is it and why wasn’t it used by the Trump campaign?

  238. Jonesy says:

    This board has become Dem Troll Robbie, posting to himself.

    Do not feed the monster, Phil.

  239. Tina says:

    Phil, the stories are getting loonier and loonier. At this point, the sp needs to close up,job and sessions needs to charge the leakers.

  240. jason says:

    Here is the MSM formula to attract people like Wobbie who can’t think on their own….

    Put a bunch of sinister sounding works together in a sentence..

    “counter intelligence”… “suspected”.. “ties”…. “intel”….

    The fact there is ZERO evidence any of these people were acting on behalf of the Russian government or that Donald Jr. was in any capacity to or did offer anything in return on behalf of the Trump administration or even that he or anyone received or used any information given to him is irrelevant to brainwashed morons like Wobbie.

  241. Jonesy says:

    Phil, Mandel looks like a good recruit in Ohio. WV too.

    Could you imagine if the Rats took the House, and the GOP gained Senate Seats? Pelosi would be foaming at the mouth for impeachment, and the Senate would continue to confirm conservative judges as Trump cruises to re-election.

  242. jason says:

    Wobbie thinks that if Podesta was told someone had dirt on Trump he would have said “oh that’s terrible, I hate it” he wouldn’t have said “if its true I love it”.

  243. Tina says:

    We nned to twke out vile sky queen.

  244. Tina says:

    Russian adoption was the key issue in the campaign.

    Cuomo

  245. jason says:

    The MSM’s power rests with people like Wobbie.

    Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who can’t think on their own and just lap up the spoon fed garbage.

  246. jason says:

    Has Wobbie come up with the list of “many people” yet?

    Should be good.

  247. Trump says:

    There is no political problem for Trump.

    He is blithely doing what he was elected to do.

    The only noise is coming out of Trump haters. On a daily basis. Nobody is paying attention to these losers.

  248. Trump says:

    Retard Robbie is on today, whining how much Trump hurt him again.

  249. Robbie says:

    The fact there is ZERO evidence any of these people were acting on behalf of the Russian government or that Donald Jr. was in any capacity to or did offer anything in return on behalf of the Trump administration or even that he or anyone received or used any information given to him is irrelevant to brainwashed morons like Wobbie.

    – Jason hasn’t been doing a good job of keeping up with my posts since I wrote, while stupid and a political mess, there was nothing to suggest the meeting was illegal.

  250. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 14, 2017 at 10:29 am
    Wobbie thinks that if Podesta was told someone had dirt on Trump he would have said “oh that’s terrible, I hate it” he wouldn’t have said “if its true I love it”.

    – In 2000, when someone from the Bush campaign leaked his debate preparation to the Gore campaign, the Gore campaign called the FBI.

  251. Trump says:

    The Bly political problem is for the GOP morons.

    Slouching towards minority.

  252. Phil says:

    I thought about that Democratic House- Republican Senate Jonesy. Actually, I am beginning to think controlling the House doesn’t mean crap outside of the fact that it gives the majority party the power to determine who or what gets investigated. That would give Pelosi and company the power to investigate the hell out of Trump and generate a negative Trump headline a day through committee hearings. Those headlines happen anyway thus so what. They would impeach him but it wouldn’t go anywhere in the senate. Hell, the House can’t get anything done as it is with their substantial majority so, again, big deal.

  253. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 14, 2017 at 10:33 am
    Has Wobbie come up with the list of “many people” yet?
    Should be good.

    – Did you read my comments in 241 and 244 where I said I was using Trump’s technique? Do you have problem with Trump when he uses the phrase “many people are saying” and then follows some dubious claim?

  254. Jonesy says:

    Phil, you have to wonder if Clinton and Obama were actually happy to lose the House. GOP speaker gave them both a boogey man for re-election.

    Granted that clinton lost Senate also

  255. Trump says:

    You re no trump, retard.

  256. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 14, 2017 at 10:24 am
    When Trump and this Russian thing it comes down somewhere between Robbie and his let’s drive Trump out of office Republican establishment friends and troll poster “Trump” and his constant Trump “cruising to reelection” line of bullsh*t.

    – Just like Bitterlaw, I’d like to see Pence become president because Trump disgusts me, but I’m not agitating to drive him out of office. I haven’t called for him to resign or to be impeached. He won and that’s that.

  257. Tina says:

    That is it, using trumps trchnique.

    Lol

  258. Jonesy says:

    Dem House would have circus hearings every day, but they would gain nothing with it.

  259. Jonesy says:

    Pence would be attacked by LGBT groups, who are far more powerful than the WaPo etc… Trump has not had that problem.

    No way Pence would win in 2020, and I do like him

  260. Phil says:

    I know this. The House probably isn’t going to change hands as long as the brain dead Democrats keep Pelosi as their leader. She’s an easy target in competitive districts for Republicans go after. A lousy face for the Democratic Party. Just shows how loony left the Democratic Party has become.

  261. Tina says:

    Well, here are some possible answers to how natalia, the spy was in our country.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/14/mystery-solved-timeline-shows-how-russian-lawyer-got-into-us-for-trump-jr-meeting.amp.html

    Preet somes like a creep. Not sure of his actual involvement here, but he was always known as senator schumas poodle

  262. Trump says:

    Pining for Pence is like pining for third party candidate, brokered convention, GOP “elite” intervention.

    Pure delusion.

    More straightforward would be appeal to GOP voters. I know, radical thought!!!

  263. Phil says:

    I’m not a Trump guy, but this Russian thing is so far over the top it disgusts me. Trump has done some good things some of which any other Republican Presidents never would do – like withdraw from the Paris agreement. Took guts. His nomination of judges have been great. Just having him in office has slowed the flow of illegal immigration. Important to me.

    I like Pence. However, the MSM and their elitist friends would go after him almost immediately if he were in office. We all know that. Hell, they’d be after Rubio nonstop.

  264. mnw says:

    MO Senate (& post 225):

    A new CFG poll (Club for Growth) today shows GOP State AG Josh Hawley leading McCaskill 46-42.

    Considering her much greater name recognition, I think the poll is pretty toxic for McCaskill. I have to think that at THIS point, a lot of supposed Hawley supporters are actually saying, “I don’t know who Hawley is, but hell, anybody but HER.”

    I think Hawley would eat her lunch. He’s a REALLY good fit for this state during this election, imo.

    Bonus: Hawley is just damn bright. His resume is SCOTUS nominee quality.

  265. Jonesy says:

    27.. Well said Phil

  266. Jonesy says:

    277. Sorry

  267. Jonesy says:

    278. State Attorney Generals always make quality Senate Candidates

  268. Phil says:

    Hawley is a great candidate. However, for a bright guy he sure is passing up a golden opportunity.

  269. Jonesy says:

    276. I agree. I am tired of this Pence talk crap too.

    the only ones who lay off him would be the GOPe

  270. Robbie says:

    Since we’re discussing things that aren’t going to happen, a President Pence would have one thing going for him that Trump doesn’t: message discipline. Trump has gotten himself into the majority of problems he faces because he has been unable to stay on message and not say things that have harmed him. That’s unless musing about Comey tapes or tweeting about Mika’s facelift were a good idea.

  271. mnw says:

    P.S. Which candidate, Hawley or McCaskill, has a better chance to grow their current support level, hmmm?

    The old battleax or the new kid?

  272. Trump says:

    Pence has no message. If he had, he would be president.

  273. Trump says:

    Retrd Robbie still whining about Trump hurting him.

    Delicious.

  274. Bitterlaw says:

    However, for a bright guy he sure is passing up a golden opportunity.

    Maybe he does not want a new job. Maybe he likes his current job.

  275. Trump says:

    It’s great to have message discipline when you have no message.

  276. mnw says:

    At RRH, there’s a lot of talk that Hawley WILL run, & that his supposed reluctance is just Kabuki to get everybody begging him to do it.

    I DO think that Hawley would rather be on SCOTUS than in the Senate, but the two are not necessarily incompatible. Hawley is 38 (I think).., and he looks like he’s about 27.

  277. Tina says:

    I like pence, but he is veep.

    I think an asset to trump has been melania., especially on these trips to,europe. She can soeak french, italian, etc.

    Looks like her poll numbers are through the roof and she amzed the french.

    Trump,is now 3-3 on these trips.

  278. Phil says:

    A lot of people are drawn to Trump simply due to his lack of discipline. Some of his tweets reflect exactly what a lot of us feel. “Crooked Hillary’ is exactly that to a lot of us – CROOKED HILLARY – but, yeah, Mika’s facelift like tweets are counter productive.

  279. Tina says:

    Brokered convention equals pense as president.

  280. Trump says:

    Kraut is still pining for Walter Mondale, moron.

  281. Jonesy says:

    Tina, Brokered Convention, Hillary wins Utah.. such credibility

  282. Trump says:

    Losers can’t get over their loserdom.

  283. Jonesy says:

    Kraut was dooming Trump on election night to the last possible minute. Another worthless GOPe hack

  284. Wes says:

    Uh, Trump. Pence never ran for President. He was seeking reelection to the governorship when the real Trump tapped him for Veep.

    Thus, you really can’t say Pence has no message and would be President if he had because Pence never sought the office in question.

  285. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Reports suggest that lynch wire tapped manafort phone during or shortly after the natalia meeting.

  286. Tina says:

    John Cardillo @johncardillo
    Fusion GPS will unravel, and it will take prominent Dems and #NeverTrump NeoCons with it. That’s inevitable.

  287. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Breaking: Rinat Akhmetshin and McMaster Attended 2016 Halifax Forum Where McCain Given Fake Dossier

    Rinat is fusion.

  288. jason says:

    “In 2000, when someone from the Bush campaign leaked his debate preparation to the Gore campaign, the Gore campaign called the FBI.”

    So moron, what did the Russians give Donald Jr. that he used and/or should have given to the FBI?

    This should be good.

  289. jason says:

    Wobbie never liked Pence but now he is in love with him.

    Wobbie never pushed Pence as a candidate for President. NEVER.

    You have to admire the hypocrisy.

  290. Tina says:

    Did hillary cll the fbi on fusion or te ukrainian gubment officials?

    Answer cuomo.

  291. jason says:

    “In 2000, when someone from the Bush campaign leaked his debate preparation to the Gore campaign, the Gore campaign called the FBI.”

    So Wobbie is comparing what in effect was mail fraud and a felony (illegally obtained documents sent through the mail0 with Donald Jr. saying he would love it if someone had dirt on Hillary?

    Yeah, I can believe it.

  292. Tina says:

    Ben sassse also present at meeting abroad when pepe dossier was handed over to ukraine mccain

  293. Tina says:

    Time frame matxhes first june fisa request. Court said ilegal and no fisa issued.

  294. lisab says:

    krauthammer is incorrect on the collusion

    if the fbi offers to sell fake explosives to a terrorist and the terrorist meets with them and buys it, that is a crime

    in this case, don jr. met with the russians but only asked if hillary was taking russian money. he did not offer anything.

  295. lisab says:

    if a female cop comes up to you dressed as a prostitute and offers sex for money and you offer money for sex, you will go to jail

    but if she comes up to you and you only ask if your friend robbie hired her, you don’t go to jail

  296. Tina says:

    If donny is guilty for meeting witthna doreigner, so is benedicit ulraine.

  297. Tina says:

    Got an email blast.

    Sp to end soon?

  298. lisab says:

    POLL: Melania’s approval higher than Hillary as First Lady…
    ——–

    that cannot be difficult

    on looks, it is really not fair to compare an elderly shrew with a former model.

    and on message, no one wants to listen to hillary speak, and no one can understand what melania says.

  299. lisab says:

    melania was the worst kind of model too, she has boobies. maybe 1% of 1% of women have thin enough and tall enough bodies AND the big eyes, shiny hair and high cheekbones needed to be a model

    only 1% of those women also have boobs

    if melania barked like a dog, men would still like her better than hillary

  300. lisab says:

    not that i don’t like melania …

    i just get the strong impression she was trying to cash out her modeling career …

    “ummmmmm … i am getting older … i cannot act or sing … oh look, a twice divorced billionaire … that works!”

    and she had no clue he would run for president and she would have to be the first lady.

  301. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 14, 2017 at 11:46 am
    Wobbie never liked Pence but now he is in love with him.
    Wobbie never pushed Pence as a candidate for President. NEVER.
    You have to admire the hypocrisy.

    – There’s so much wrong with this. In 2010, I hoped Pence would run for Senate from Indiana. And in early 2011, I was disappointed when he decided not to run for president in 2012 and instead focused on the Indiana governor’s race.

    It’s true I was critical of Pence when he took the VP spot last year. I thought Trump was a sinking ship and Pence risked throwing away his career by hitching his star to him.

    Am I in love with Pence? No. He’s a bit more on the social conservative side of the spectrum than I’d prefer. But in comparison to Trump and all the issues he has swirling around him, I think Pence would be a better option. He understands how DC works and would surround himself with a competent, effective White House staff that’s not rife with infighting.

  302. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 14, 2017 at 11:49 am
    “In 2000, when someone from the Bush campaign leaked his debate preparation to the Gore campaign, the Gore campaign called the FBI.”
    So Wobbie is comparing what in effect was mail fraud and a felony (illegally obtained documents sent through the mail0 with Donald Jr. saying he would love it if someone had dirt on Hillary?
    Yeah, I can believe it.

    – The email Don Jr. got said a Russian government lawyer had dirt on Clinton and the Russian government wanted to help Trump win. In response, Don Jr. said “I love it”. He took the meeting on the pretense he was going to get dirt on her. That nothing came of it doesn’t change the fact he took the meeting in belief he was going to get what was offered.

    Meanwhile, the Trump nominee for FBI Director, Chris Wray, said in his confirmation hearing Wednesday that any politician who gets an offer like this from a foreign national should call the FBI.

  303. Tina says:

    What is illegal? What is the exact statutue violation?

    I asked this the oast three days and the concerned trolls have not provided it.

  304. lisab says:

    too bad don jr isn’t a politician

  305. Trump says:

    Hey retard in 317,

    Doesn’t that leave Don Jr. out, as he is not a politician?

  306. Jeff G. says:

    Tina,

    No statutes were violated. The trolls will never be able to cite one.

  307. Trump says:

    And further, moron, can you cite the law which says a politician should call the FBI for talking with any Russian?

  308. Trump says:

    Morons like you is why we got Trump, retard.

  309. Tina says:

    Jeff G, i know, long time no see.

  310. Trump says:

    I get emails from Nigerian princes at least once a week, offering me millions of dollars.

    Is there a law that I should call the FBI?

  311. Tina says:

    So, did camp,hillary call the fbi on the dossier and ukranian matter?

  312. lisab says:

    if i got an email saying, “hey i have info from a russian lawyer”

    i probably would have thought what i bet don jr thought, “another nigerian princess …, but ok i guess i have to hear her out.”

    the only difference is that, having somewhat followed politics and seen all the tapes of planned parenthood selling bodyparts etc., i would have immediately suspected the nytimes or some other crime family …

    and would have had her vetted way before i met with her AND even if my detectives did not find out she was an anti-trump person, i still would have set up a sting, maybe with hidden cameras run by trusted ex-fbi types

    don jr is/was too naive to play in politics

  313. Tina says:

    Breaking

    2 Mccain staffers have lawyered up,over the pepe dossier.

  314. lisab says:

    mccain and especially romney were idiots

    my understanding is that mccain gave it to romney and romney believed him

    which is why romney was so against trump at the end of the primary season, he actually was morally outraged at trump hiring prostitutes etc.

    mccain at least has been in politics long enough to know he should check out random dossiers …

    but he wanted to believe it

  315. Tina says:

    Mccain is senile, time to go away.

    He is in legal,jeopardy acxording to many
    he met with a foreigner ddling informarion that could impact an election.

  316. jason says:

    hat nothing came of it doesn’t change the fact he took the meeting in belief he was going to get what was offered.”

    So f-king what?

    EVERY Democrat would have done the same thing.

    NOBODY would have called the FBI without even knowing what the information was.

  317. jason says:

    In 2010, I hoped Pence would run for Senate from Indiana.”

    Zzzzz… gets a D- as red herrings and moving goalposts goes.

    You never advocated Pence here for President. NEVER.

    I would have preferred Pence as President too.

    But he didn’t run. The guy who won and is President is Trump.

    Deal with it.

  318. jason says:

    Donald Jr. even said it would be great to have some dirt on Hillary “especially later in the summer”.

    It shows he had no idea of any specific information and was just commenting like anybody in a campaign would do, hey it would be great if there was damaging information on the opponent, the closer to the election the better.

    To elevate this to “collusion” is unmitigated BS.

    But of course Wobbie knows that.

  319. jason says:

    “A giant technology company will release up to 20 million bacteria-filled, buzzing mosquitoes this summer in Fresno, California.

    That’s supposed to be a good thing.”

    Okayyyy, if you say so….

  320. Big E says:

    The more the press talks about it the less it will matter. A story can only last so long before sane people lose interest. I believe polls will reflect this. If the press continues to shove this down our collective throats then a major backlbacklash may be coming. Already evidenced in the Mandel-Brown polling and the aforementioned Hawley-Macasckill poll. Nobody will trust a thing the press says.

  321. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t feel like going to the Archives but there were several posters who said that Pence was dead to them for betraying conservatism and that he had destroyed his career by accepting the nomination. I think that Corey was one of them. Robbie might be another but if he says that he was not I am not looking it up.

  322. Charles says:

    Charles Krauthammer: Trump Jr. emails are evidence of ‘collusion’

    When you’ve lost Krauthammer… RIP USA

  323. Bitterlaw says:

    STAND UP, CHUCK!

  324. Charles says:

    Phuck off

  325. Charles says:

    Obamacare survives .. checked
    Trillion dollar budget deficit .. checked
    Debt ceiling raised .. checked

    uhhh.. and some thing this is a Republican adminisration.. Good Grief!

  326. Tina says:

    But her thighness was a go for the jebots.

  327. Tina says:

    The “unnamed translator” for Veselnitskaya was Anatoli Samochornov

    Former State Dept and FBI employee

  328. Tina says:

    Uh oh.

    Rinat Akhmetshin’s nephew, Oleg Svet, is military legislative assistant to Congressman Hank Johnson (D-Ga), on Armed Services Committee. https://twitter.com/RFERL/sta

  329. Wes says:

    Charles, Trump is nof a conservative in the Harding, Coolidge, or Reagan mold but a populist in the mold of Teddy Roosevelt. Deficits mean little to these people, so long as they appeal to the masses.

  330. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is the recollection of the meeting with the Russian according to the recently revealed attendee:

    “Trump Jr. asked the attorney if she had all the evidence to back up her claims, including whether she could demonstrate the flow of the money. But Veselnitskaya said the Trump campaign would need to research it more. After that, Trump Jr. lost interest, according to Akhmetshin.

    “They couldn’t wait for the meeting to end,” he said.”

    Providing information is not collusion. There needs to be cooperative action, which there is no evidence took place. When the allegations of collusion were made several months ago, they alleged some sort of joint effort by the Russians and the Trump campaign in corrupt the election process — nothing has come forward that shows this took place.

  331. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    340. “Obamacare survives .. checked
    Trillion dollar budget deficit .. checked
    Debt ceiling raised .. checked

    uhhh.. and some thing this is a Republican adminisration.. Good Grief!”

    Perhaps you could talk to the Democrats an get them to stop opposing the Republican attempts to address these issues?

  332. SoHope says:

    Not a fan of Pence but he is the best part of the Trump Admin.

    I don’t see how Trump has any chance of a 2020 victory. Him stepping aside and Pence (keeping the Trump loving yahoos on board) running may be the only path. I don’t know if an outsider like Rubio/Cruz/Cotton/etc could take the nomition and win.

  333. Cash Cow TM says:

    freak show

    a fresh kow ?
    whose fark?
    how R fakes

  334. Bitterlaw says:

    Here are some suggestions to change baseball. I like one (relief pitchers must face at least 3 batters) and hate one (DH in both leagues)

    http://nypost.com/2017/07/14/15-ideas-for-how-to-improve-baseball-from-top-insiders/

  335. Wes says:

    I’m guessing Kid Rock is serious about challenging Debbie Stabenow.

    https://kidrock.com/blog/announcement/447744/once-again-the-press-is-wrong

    Why not? If Minnesotans can twice elect an unfunny comedian known for vicious personal assaults on those of different political views to the Senate, why shouldn’t Michiganders be able to elect a rapper former married to a hepatitis-infected Canadian “actress” to the same august body?

    Welcome to the world of celebrity politics. Reality stars become President while the Senate becomes the playground of comedians and rappers.

    I wonder how soon we’ll follow Italy’s example and start electing porn stars to public office.

  336. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 14, 2017 at 1:36 pm
    In 2010, I hoped Pence would run for Senate from Indiana.”
    Zzzzz… gets a D- as red herrings and moving goalposts goes.
    You never advocated Pence here for President. NEVER.
    I would have preferred Pence as President too.
    But he didn’t run. The guy who won and is President is Trump.

    – Because he never ran. Had he been a candidate in 2012, I would have supported him in the primary. Had he run in 2016 and been around after my first choice was out, I’d have been very favorable to him.

  337. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 14, 2017 at 2:18 pm
    I don’t feel like going to the Archives but there were several posters who said that Pence was dead to them for betraying conservatism and that he had destroyed his career by accepting the nomination. I think that Corey was one of them. Robbie might be another but if he says that he was not I am not looking it up.

    – It’s possible I did say he was dead to me. I was extremely angry about the campaign Trump was waging and I expected everything to go down in flames. They did win though so I guess I’m trying to make the best of it. Given the choice between Trump and Pence, it’s a no brainer. But remember, Trump’s not quitting so this is all just speculation and day dreaming.

  338. Robbie says:

    SoHope says:
    July 14, 2017 at 3:49 pm
    Not a fan of Pence but he is the best part of the Trump Admin.
    I don’t see how Trump has any chance of a 2020 victory. Him stepping aside and Pence (keeping the Trump loving yahoos on board) running may be the only path. I don’t know if an outsider like Rubio/Cruz/Cotton/etc could take the nomition and win.

    – I can imagine a scenario were Trump decides not to run in 2020 and asks the party to nominate Pence. I can also envision a scenario where Trump runs and gets a primary challenge. I doubt an effective one would come from the conservative wing. That’s where Trump’s base is. I think a primary challenge from the establishment wing, while very unlikely to unseat Trump, would be the most dangerous for him.

  339. Robbie says:

    Aaron Blake?
    @AaronBlake 15m
    15 minutes ago

    Veselnitskaya tells WSJ she has been in regular contact with Russia’s attorney general equivalent, Yury Chaika

  340. Jonesy says:

    Troll Robbie posting to himself again. sigh…

    Scroll Down

  341. Jonesy says:

    351. Stabenow’s Husband was caught with Hookers I believe?

  342. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #355
    Breathtaking—NOT! And this signifies…?
    So what laws has DJT Jr. broken?

  343. Tina says:

    That is the million $ question the drat cannot answer.

  344. Tina says:

    Katy Turd is trying to take credit for this

    Jack Posobiec ?? @JackPosobiec
    The “unnamed translator” for Veselnitskaya was Anatoli Samochornov

    Former State Dept and FBI employee

  345. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    19m

    Replying to @IngrahamAngle and 2 others
    PsychoJoe & Yoko need to stay in their hotel bed singing “Give MSNBC A Chance”

    Lol, psycho joe. I like mika joe scarfarce.

  346. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #360- Tina
    OMG(sarc)!!! Robbie will now faint with excitable exhaustion. Let’s keep a record of Robbie’s twitter “gurus”:

    Aaron Blake
    Oliver Darcy
    Maggie Haberman

  347. Jonesy says:

    GOPe loves big Gubmint, easier for them when a Dem is in the White House.

  348. Jonesy says:

    Sheeple, Robbie might as well retweet his own kind. You know the kind that said Hillary would win Utah.

  349. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #365
    Agreed, but why at HHR and not RRH? He is the butt of derision here!

  350. Jonesy says:

    As I watch Fox News tonight, I am trying to figure out who actually wanted to Trump to win there , besides Eric Bolling and Hannity? Lou Dobbs at Fox Business too.

    Never Trumpers were:

    Krauthead, Colonel Klink Peters, Jonah Goldberg, Byron York, Rich Lowrey, Baby Huey Rove, Chris Wallace, Sheppy Smith

    Anybody else?

  351. Jonesy says:

    366. Get’s off on it for some reason

  352. Robbie says:

    Fox News?
    @FoxNews

    .@EricBolling: “Maybe the Russians were colluding with @HillaryClinton to get information on @RealDonaldTrump.”

  353. Tina says:

    Nobody, faux let go of all there good people when the loon sons took over. That is why mslsd is beating them.

    Fox busineess is better. But the loon sons will ruin it.

  354. Tina says:

    JohnWickofPolitics @Gingrich_of_PA
    ·
    19m

    When the puzzle pieces come together, it was the Russians playing both sides. Rinat is an admitted spy working WITH Fusion GPS. Mind blowing

  355. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 14, 2017 at 5:39 pm
    #365
    Agreed, but why at HHR and not RRH? He is the butt of derision here!

    – If you can’t handle hearing something with which you don’t agree, isn’t that the definition of a snowflake?

    We’re on day 175 of this presidency and there’s already a special council, a perpetual state of crisis in the White House, and, oh by the way, nothing legislatively has been accomplished.

    On the other hand, there have been a lot of personal lawyers hired.

  356. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 14, 2017 at 5:42 pm
    As I watch Fox News tonight, I am trying to figure out who actually wanted to Trump to win there , besides Eric Bolling and Hannity? Lou Dobbs at Fox Business too.
    Never Trumpers were:
    Krauthead, Colonel Klink Peters, Jonah Goldberg, Byron York, Rich Lowrey, Baby Huey Rove, Chris Wallace, Sheppy Smith
    Anybody else?

    – Chief Justice Robert Bork

  357. Tina says:

    Krautheimer, jonas, et.al love bkowing up,the middle east. Policy proven wrong. They are no longer relevant and never really were,

  358. Tina says:

    A Member, officer, or employee may not undertake any outside activity that creates a conflict of interest. See Senate Rule 37.2″ uh oh

    Uh oh,benedict ukraine.

  359. Jonesy says:

    Still serving drinks on those GOPe Private Planes, Robbie?

  360. JC says:

    Tina and Robbie should get married. Sheesh.

  361. Jonesy says:

    Greg Abbott running for another term in Texas

  362. Jonesy says:

    Bill Clinton had no worries in his first 175 days. all was just swell with Whitewater, Paula Jones etc.. Whores and Roses and Tax Raising.

    But hey that stopped him from a second term, right Wobbles?

  363. Tina says:

    JC says:
    July 14, 2017 at 6:03 pm
    Tina and Robbie should get married. Sheesh.

    Eh?

  364. Jonesy says:

    Funny how Robbie and his pals Chuck Todd etc.. said Trump was finished after the Sex Tape audio. He was done, a goner. It was Ovah!!

    Here we are 7 or 8 months later, and Robbie is going down the same Rabbit Hole. Dufus

  365. Jonesy says:

    So Shelly Silver’s conviction is tossed in NY.

    So called superstar Prosecutor Prett B, now looks likes a fool

  366. PresidentPaul! says:

    I think the biggest problem we have is that thief and “politician” are not really a legitimate career choice so people like Paul Ryan are there to get rich, secure continued power in order to have stable income, and promote themselves.

    From the left this kind of thing is expected, but the majority on the right do the same thing. Furthermore their sucking up to existing congressional party structures means they can’t even think for themselves anyways in their effort to run some random committee.

  367. lisab says:

    Pence is such a dud and gives Trump nothing.

    robbie D

  368. lisab says:

    I’m not worried. There’s precisely ZERO chance Trump outperforms my negative opinions because there’s ZERO chance he becomes president.

    robbie D

  369. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie- how is Trump going to stop Jeb 2.0 in 3 years?

    >worth in excess of 65 billion
    >practically own all social media
    >massive influence
    >can shape the news
    >in bed with NSA, CIA, FBI

  370. Robbie says:

    How many states have the Paul’s won in their presidential primary runs, Bunu?

  371. PresidentPaul! says:

    UK politicians refuse to blame insane immigration policy instead blaming its citizens and tax payers for acid attacks, bombs, slayings, etc and instead want to ban the internet and privacy
    —————————————–

    UK Politicians Call For Limits and Bans on Anonymous Social Media Accounts

    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/uk-politicians-call-for-limits-and-bans-on-anonymous-social-media-accounts

  372. JC says:

    I think Trump may have just Red pilled the EU’s ‘great hope’ Macron. lol.

    One meeting and Macron’s suddenly talking about tightening up Frances borders and tamping down on rampant migration.

  373. PresidentPaul! says:

    #388

    Actually a lot of them. There was widespread cheating in 2012, but this was expected because that’s what politicians do.

  374. Robbie says:

    I think the Pauls are now 0-150 in their presidential primary runs.

  375. lisab says:

    It’s called self awareness and Pence has none.

    robbie D

  376. lisab says:

    “What Mike Pence’s “there’s no room for name-calling” remark indicates is that he’s a f##king idiot.”

    robbie D

  377. PresidentPaul! says:

    #392

    Btw I voted for Trump in the primary and the general in 2016. Had Rand not dropped out early I probably would have voted for him unless it looked like a totally futile effort in which case I’d still have gone with Trump.

  378. lisab says:

    I will, however, hold it against politicians who have shown such cravenness in their support of Trump. I start with Pence …

    robbie D

  379. PresidentPaul! says:

    Macron releases new plan to deport all illegal immigrants.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/12/france-unveils-plan-to-systematically-deport-illegal-migrants/

  380. PresidentPaul! says:

    Fake News reacts to Trump win

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500073017059.png

  381. PresidentPaul! says:

    #392

    It would have been a DISASTER for the GOP as a party if Romney won but especially if McCain had won.

    Ron Paul was the only candidate who ran all the to convention and opposed their candidacies so although they probably wouldn’t have won the general election anyways any resistance against them was a huge help for the GOP.

  382. Diamond Jim says:

    CD

  383. Robbie says:

    Diamond Jim says:
    July 14, 2017 at 7:35 pm
    CD

    -CDI 😉

  384. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie-

    “The neocons are always wrong; and they never, ever apologize.” — Dr. Christopher Manion (prescient words which should be carved deeply in stone upon every monument, building, and headstone in Washington, D. C. and Arlington National Cemetery).

    Jeb was early proponent of the illegal, unconstitutional, preemptive invasion of Iraq and the bogus “weapons of mass destruction” big lie. In the 2016 race he continued to state that he would still invade Iraq invasion all over again had he been in W’s shoes in order to create ISIS.

  385. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    371. “When the puzzle pieces come together, it was the Russians playing both sides. Rinat is an admitted spy working WITH Fusion GPS. Mind blowing”

    Suppose its possible that Putin could be laughing his head off, he was able to create chaos by manipulating both sides. Creating disruption and deadlock in the U.S.

    He took down Hillary, but Trump was too nasty of a person to be taken down.

  386. Tina says:

    Sdc, even though he played both sides i think pooty poot favored hillary. He wants high energy prices and she made stupid deals with him already

  387. Tina says:

    The neo cons are not conservatives in any manner.

    They are open borders, big gubment, and propoonents of endless wars.

  388. lisab says:

    Shortage Of Foreign Labor Forces Maine Businesses To Hire Local Workers

    he shortage is so acute that companies are sweetening incentives for local workers.
    ——————————————–

    soooooooo … immigration keeps employment by american citizens down?!!!!

  389. PresidentPaul! says:

    Zuckerberg finds religion

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500077359467.png

  390. Charles says:

    Give it up, it’s time for President Pence.. And it’s about time.

  391. PresidentPaul! says:

    Pence is not a deranged as Jeb, but he’s still pretty bad considering he’s been wrong on nearly every issue his whole political life other than backing Trump for President.

    Same mistake Reagan made though-> selecting a bad VP

  392. Charles says:

    Great, Bunu thinks Pence is wrong on everything. That pretty much means he’s right. Go President Pence!

  393. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Bunu is a Trump supporter? He only cares about the Paul dynasty.

  394. MichiganGuy says:

    Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

  395. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 14, 2017 at 10:22 am
    “former counter-intelligence officer suspected of current ties to Russian intel”

    Wow….

    “former”…. “current”… “suspected”…..”ties”

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

    – Apparently, they weren’t making this sh-t up.

    “Mr. Akhmetshin, a naturalized American citizen who talks openly of his past in a K.G.B. counterintelligence unit focused on hunting spies in the Russian military”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/us/politics/russian-american-lobbyist-meeting-trump.html

  396. MichiganGuy says:

    West Virginia Senate PPP

    Manchin

  397. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    404. “Sdc, even though he played both sides i think pooty poot favored hillary. He wants high energy prices and she made stupid deals with him already.”

    Tina totally agree. Your spot on. Putin has to fear Trump because his energy policies will destroy Russia. Its like Reagan and the Saudis who lowered oil prices enough destroy the Russian economy and bring down the Soviet Union. Obama almost sold us out, and whatever the issues are with Trump, he is bringing the nation back.

  398. MichiganGuy says:

    West Virginia Senate PPP

    Manchin 46%
    Mckinley 36%

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/west-virginia-miscellany.html

  399. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    415. Robbie, so what? Do you have list of people that Trump,Jr. cannot meet with? Am tired of the hysterics, what is the issue? Is talking to people a crime in your crazy world?

  400. MichiganGuy says:

    Oops that poll is old. Seen it on twitter.

  401. lisab says:

    transgender teen wins girl’s high school track competition for 100 and 200 meter races

    As the competitors settled into their blocks Tuesday for the 100-meter girls final at the CIAC Class M track meet — one sprinter clearly more powerfully built than the others — the question could not be ignored.

    As that same powerfully built sprinter overtook the field in the final 70 meters of the 200 finals, the question remained.

    And as Stonington junior Kate Hall, who had won the Class M 100 last year, brushed back tears after she had finished second behind transgender female Andraya Yearwood of Cromwell in the 100, this much was clear:

    The question that could not be ignored has no easy, painless answer.

    “It’s frustrating,” said Hall, who finished third in the 200. “But that’s just the way it is now.”

  402. Wes says:

    How long before the NFL starts drafting transgenders?

  403. lisab says:

    the problem i have with a transgender (mtf) girl competing against girls born as girls is that the transgendered girl has more muscle than the biological girls

    especially in this case where the transgendered girl hat not begun any hormone therapy. basically she identifies as a girl, but has male hormones

  404. Wes says:

    Would a transgender be able to beat the Williams sisters at Wimbledon?

  405. Trump says:

    Would Trump grab transgender Proud Obamacon’s pu$$y?

  406. lisab says:

    “Would a transgender be able to beat the Williams sisters at Wimbledon?”

    yes.

    the williams sisters are approximately the 700th best players in the world according to john mcenroe. by power rankings they are i think about 400 or so. that is, there are about 500 men who could beat them fairly regularly.

    most of those men do not make the millions of dollars that the williams sisters do.

    if some of them decided to say they identify as women, and did not take female hormones, but simply said they were women, they would win regularly.

  407. PresidentPaul! says:

    #413

    “President Paul!” name was a chant for 2016 GOP conventions for protesting state GOP chairmen and trying to fire them all not a statement about a candidate.

  408. Wes says:

    How’d that work out for you, Bunu? As I recall, the real Republicans started taking the Paulbots infiltrating the state parties out, particularly in Iowa, where Terry Branstad got rid of the Paulbots a few years ago.

  409. Bitterlaw says:

    Instead of coaching next season, I am going to identify as a 15 year old girl. Those 5′ 4″ high school girls are not going to stop me from getting to the basket. In softball, I’m going to feast on that pitching and play 1st base.

  410. Wes says:

    Amazingly Bitterlaw may have actually found a way to win with his new strategy.

  411. Tina says:

    That guy was even more currently a state dept contractor and an fbi official.
    How did he hold those positions?

    And for the third or fourth straight day, what is the crime?

  412. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #431
    Yes, what is the potential crime?!

  413. Tina says:

    http://drawandstrike.blogspot.com/2017/07/why-special-counsel-robert-mueller-cant.html

    Comedy is in legal jeopardy. He did worse things than petraeus.

  414. Tina says:

    And comedynhas admitted to taking classified information in congressional testimony.

  415. Trump says:

    The crime is Trump beating Hillary, Dems, GOP, and the media.

  416. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes- I may focus on defense and rebounding. At 49, I’m not running the floor the whole game.

  417. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #436
    Yep.

  418. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    I am curious as to what you believe are the three(3) top reasons why Trump won/ Clinton lost in 2016. Please advise.

  419. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue” @NolteNC
    ·
    1h

    NRO is a moral disaster.
    Mike McNeil @Mike2McNeil
    Replying to @NolteNC
    National Review has gone from 180,000 subscribers to 80,000 subscribers.

  420. Tina says:

    More than half of their writers endorsed obama. They are not conservative.

  421. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/top-democrats-worried-thousands-illegal-voters-unregister-colorado/.

    3000 cancel their voter registrations in colorado.

    Nomcoter fraud though, imthink I read that here.

  422. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 15, 2017 at 9:32 am
    Robbie
    I am curious as to what you believe are the three(3) top reasons why Trump won/ Clinton lost in 2016. Please advise.


    1. The voters, especially Republicans, didn’t want Clinton to be president and were willing to overlook Trump’s faults as a result.

    2. A belief the economy wasn’t improving as much as some of the data indicated.

    3. The open Supreme Court seat.

  423. Jonesy says:

    The Dem Troll starts early.

    MSM tweets in 1.2.3…

  424. Tina says:

    Trump won because he campaigned aggressively in pa, mi, and wi, Hillary took weeks and months off because she was not well.

    Her collapse on 9/11 was a turning point as was the 2nd debate.

  425. Jonesy says:

    Americans did not want Bill chasing interns in the White House again, except for the Bush Family

  426. Tina says:

    Former Ambassador to Russia McFaul, appointed by Liar Obama, now claims that he doesn’t know how spying Russian lawyer Natalia Veselniskaya showed up right behind him during a Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Russia, June 14, 2014. She was sitting right next to his children in the row where family, counselors and advisors seat, but Mr. McFaul, following the Clinton/Obama tradition, denies, denies, denies, that he ever met her. Who are you going to believe? The appointee of a pathological liar who was familiar with Russian government figures or your lying eyes?

    Put him under oath and he will remember quickly.

  427. Tina says:

    I already linked to her pictured with obamas ambassador.

  428. Robbie says:

    Remember. This woman wrote the story in November 2016 that kicked off the series of events that led to Trump’s wiretap tweet.

    Louise Mensch?
    @LouiseMensch

    EXCLUSIVE: @Reince45 forcibly returned to the USA by Air Marshals: #SIGINT from Saudi Arabia he intended to flee

  429. Jonesy says:

    452. Garbage in, Garbage out

  430. Tina says:

    Loon posting stuff from another loon.

  431. Phil says:

    446

    I would agree that those are probably the reasons in a nutshell. The courts were my main reason by far plus I did not want Hillary Clinton in the WH consolidating Obama’s work especially in the field of policies regarding the securing of the border.

    Another reason is simply I couldn’t stand the thought of watching a liar like Hillary day in day out in the news. I would much rather look at Melania – so I took a deep breath and cast my vote for Trump…..or more precisely, against Hillary.

  432. Tina says:

    Too much winning in France

    https://t.co/wBl8j8vphS?amp=1

  433. Jonesy says:

    Robbie

    Morning Consult

    Reince Preibus spent 5 days in Area 54 dungeon, on orders from President Trump.

  434. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 15, 2017 at 10:25 am
    Former Ambassador to Russia McFaul, appointed by Liar Obama, now claims that he doesn’t know how spying Russian lawyer Natalia Veselniskaya showed up right behind him during a Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Russia, June 14, 2014.

    – The date of the hearing where Veselnitskaya sat Behind McFaul was June 14, 2016. As to who saved her seat…..

    “In fact, her seat had been reserved for her by a Republican consultant with close ties to the Trump campaign.

    Lanny Wiles, whose wife, Susie, was then chairing the Trump campaign in Florida, said in an interview that he came early to scout out the seat and was there at the request of Akhmetshin, with whom he was working as a consultant on the sanctions-related adoption issue.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russian-american-lobbyist-was-present-at-trump-jrs-meeting-with-kremlin-connected-lawyer/2017/07/14/1b96f25a-68aa-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumptowermeeting-101pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d415b554befe

  435. Jonesy says:

    Phil, amazing thing is that Trump could have won many more states like Va, Minn, Nh etc…

    America has hated Hillary since 1992, only reason she ever won anything is because of Bill’s good economy of the 90’s

  436. Jonesy says:

    Another Fake News article from the Washington Compost. Did Bezos write it?

  437. Jonesy says:

    Kid Rock no joke? Lizzie Warren worried for Stabenow?

  438. Tina says:

    Garbage in and out. That seat is for family members.

  439. Jonesy says:

    Sun Herald

    Veterans Groups praise Shulkin and Trump, as 500 VA employees fired for Negligence.

    Guess Vietnam vets care about the Russia Garbage. NOT

  440. Jonesy says:

    Tina, Goober must know something. Says Trump will get at least 4 more Scotus picks

  441. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 15, 2017 at 10:56 am
    Garbage in and out. That seat is for family members.

    – So the husband of the woman who was chairing Trump’s Florida campaign lied to the Washington Post? Got it.

  442. Tina says:

    And do not post sheot from wp on muh russian.

    To date, all stories wrong.

  443. Tina says:

    Goober has acted better than Benedict Ukraine.

  444. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought, and continue to believe, that Trump is a vile scumbag. His personal life is repulsive and his contempt for women is obvious. I voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils solely on the issue of Federal judges and SCOTUS. I do not regret my vote because every day without Hillary as President is a good day.

  445. Bitterlaw says:

    When Tina sacrifices even 1/10,000 as much for the United States as John McCain did, she can call him Benedict Ukraine without reproach from me. Until then, she can F off.

  446. Tina says:

    Bitterlaw phiq off.

  447. Robbie says:

    On Monday evening, Tina said the Don Jr. story was fake news and there was no email.

    Twelve hours later, Don Jr. released the email Tina swore didn’t exist.

  448. Tina says:

    Dan Bongino @dbongino
    ·
    Jul 14

    I visited Russia as a Secret Service agent.I’m disclosing bcz I’m conservative &,if I don’t,Dems may include me in their conspiracy theory.

    Jebots will post conspiracy stuff here about you.

  449. Tina says:

    I said that the ny times did not have the emails. No email existed for their report.

    Try to follow through.

    And the emails released are a nothingburger.

    But you love muh russian

  450. Robbie says:

    If Tina had spent 6 years being tortured by the North Vietnamese as McCain did, the world would have known her as Hanoi Tina because she would have broken. McCain didn’t.

  451. Tina says:

    The reporter for the sli es admitted that he never reviewed normsaw the emails.

    That is not journalism.

  452. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 15, 2017 at 11:11 am
    I said that the ny times did not have the emails. No email existed for their report.

    – So, in other words, you were 100% wrong. G;ad we agree on something.

  453. Tina says:

    You were wrong, the slimes reported in something and their reporter admitted to not seeing or reviewing the emails.

    Thise are facts.

  454. Tina says:

    And he gets no break from me. He went abroad to get information on a candidate from a foreign source, who got the information from Russia.

  455. Tina says:

    That is why mcamnesty is sikent on this issue. He shoukd be put under iath and removed from any muh russian hearings immediately.

  456. Tina says:

    Mccain is a war hero, biut a sheoty senator, bl.

    Sad but true. You need to analyze him completely

  457. Tina says:

    Bush was a lousy president, both of them.

    I do not regret voting for them.

    I do regret voting for Mcamnesty.

    The alternative was a disaster.

  458. Robbie says:

    Nothing better than seeing the Queen Bee of Trumpism at HHR attacked a person who spent six years being tortured by the Vietnamese. Of course, she’s only following the lead of trump who did the same thing in July 2015. Meanwhile, Trump claimed his own personal Vietnam was avoiding getting an STD in the 1960’s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wyTNvaDdI

  459. Tina says:

    He is what he is. You canot give a free pass to him and not to donnie jr, a private citizen,

  460. Jonesy says:

    McCain was not only POW in Vietnam.

  461. Bitterlaw says:

    Can we at least agree that if Don, Jr. meeting with the Russian lawyer was no big deal then Obama letting her in the country was no big deal. All or nothing. Can’t have it both ways.

  462. Tina says:

    It coukd be, bl, but you need more information about her. I want to know more about her since she was lap dancing with ibamas ambassador, met with rowebauvh, and met with other congressional critters.

    Sorry, but I am skeptical of anything muh russian and you do not appear to be, or are simply unaware of things.

  463. Bitterlaw says:

    What is your point, Jonesy?

  464. Tina says:

    Nobody intelligent has indicated that dinny jr committed any crime.

    How she obtained admittsnce in the us last minute needs to be addressed too.

    I say put her and everybody under oath.

  465. Bitterlaw says:

    So Tina excuses Don, Jr. but nobody else. Got it.

  466. Tina says:

    I have asked a million times here what crime did he commit?

    The jebots push this sheot, but cannot answer.

  467. Jonesy says:

    I voted for Bush 1 because Dukakis was awful, and he was a ww2 Hero, but he lied and raised Taxes.

    Gore was too pompus, but I liked Tipper. I was irate that Bush hid DUI, but voted for him. Voted for him again because he did a good job after 9/11.

    I though Romney would be a good president, but he was a wimp in 2012 campaign.

    McCain, I had to hold my nose. Many friends in Phoenix said he almost switched parties in 2001, over hatred of Bush

  468. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t think that anybody committed a crime by meeting with her. That could change if new information becomes available.

  469. Jonesy says:

    485. Fair enough. Agree with that. Obama is a has been at this point, why bother with him.

  470. Jonesy says:

    Bitter, my point is McCain was not the only POW in Vietnam. Lot of ordinary guys with no voice, who are not in politics were there too

    Why does McCain get a pass on everything? He entered a bloodsport called Politics

  471. Tina says:

    Mccain coukd have committed a crime and violated senate rules.

    I need more evidence. At this time, he should not be allowed tombe a participant in any muh russian hearings.

    Btw, a source ismtelling me that the sp will end in 40/50 days. Nothing to look at.

    Fwiw, note that another report said he would be fired.

  472. Jonesy says:

    McCain not only publicly trashes Trump, his Commander in Chief, but he did the same thing to Bush 2.

    Does his Military service give him the right to do this?

    People in AZ still remember the Keating 5 scandal in the late 80’s, McCain almost had to resign over that.

  473. Jonesy says:

    Mueller is corrupted Tina. Not criminally , but his friendship with Comey is a conflict of interest.

    whatever Mueller hands down, will not matter at this point. Trump voters do not care

  474. Tina says:

    Jonesy, he is a war hero, but a horrible senator.

    Az can do much better than that.

    He was a nuissance tombith bushs and to trump.

    He largeky unchallenged obama. While he likely despised many of his policies, he was respectful to obama.

    He is not to trump ormthe bushes.

  475. Tina says:

    The probkem is that the sp was created under false pre tenses.

    This whole r cussal makes no sense.

    Hiwever, the keakers can still be charged by sessions. He did not recuse himself from that. When or if it happens, the jebots will be unglued.

  476. Diamond Jim says:

    D iamond Jim

  477. Tina says:

    Out for the rest od the day. Have 3 yards of mulch to,spread.

  478. Bitterlaw says:

    McCain earned the right to be wrong.

    Tina says Arizona could do better. The voters of Arizona disagree. I will trust them over Tina.

  479. lisab says:

    sps make lots of money

    why would they end the investigation?

  480. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is the Commander in Chief. So was Obama. It was ok to criticize him, it is ok it criticize Trump. We have 3 equal branches – not just Trump. Anybody can criticize aybody on policy. McCain’s service buys a lot of leeway from me.

  481. Jonesy says:

    503. LOL. Well Said Lisa

  482. Jonesy says:

    504. C’mon Bitter. Obama was treated with Kid Gloves.

    Did you think the reverend Wright Issue was no big deal? McCain did not even bring it up, he gave Obama a free pass.

    McCain only has courage against his own party

  483. Bitterlaw says:

    I did think the Rev Wright issue was a Zzzzzzz. People heard what he said. It only mattered to people already not voting for Obama.

  484. Jonesy says:

    507. Probably a good point. Any Dem would have won in 2008.

    I guess Obama was punished when he lost his 3rd term in 2016

  485. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina,Bitter and Robbie:
    I remember when Gabby Giffords was nearly murdered, I wished her a full recovery and a long, happy life.
    Then when she went full bore for gun control, I was still hoping for the above, but went full throttle on criticizing her on that issue. She decided to re-enter the political arena with all the accompanying kudos and criticisms.

    With John McCain and as Bitter would say, you can have/be both—a war hero and a lousy Senator.

  486. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie,Phil and Bitter:
    I agree with your reasons for why Trump prevailed over Clinton.Also, he worked really,really hard.
    Also, I remember jason and MD mercilessly mocking Bitter for voting for The Donald due to the importance of the Federal Courts.
    Like you, I voted against Clinton because I considered her a “clear and present danger” to this Country.

  487. lisab says:

    hillary i am sure wants to run again

  488. Bitterlaw says:

    McCain probably votes the GOP position at least 90% or more. Of course, when he votes with the GOP it does not make news.

  489. Wes says:

    Hillary is this generation’s Adlai Stevenson. She lost twice. It’s time for the Dems to move on.

  490. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    472. “I visited Russia as a Secret Service agent.I’m disclosing bcz I’m conservative &,if I don’t,Dems may include me in their conspiracy theory.”

    I am disclosing that I used Russian dressing on a salad last week, and address a friend of mine by his name “Conrad”, am not calling him “Comrade.”

    With the Democrats in full throttle conspiracy mode, you cannot be too careful.

  491. lisab says:

    #. Mccain likes the attention, he likes positive press, he likes the term maverick, and he hates trump

    If he can cause trump trouble and get praised for it and not get hammered by republicans… he will

  492. lisab says:

    one of the biggest surprises of mccain’s life was when the press turned on him in 2008

  493. lisab says:

    as nominee press was 60% negative 15% positive for mccain

  494. lisab says:

    hillary is toxic, i doubt the clinton’s have enough clout to win the nomination

    but if it is a terribly weak field, it is possible

    what if it is booker vs patrick vs warren? hillary will NOT want warren to win and be first female president

    nor would she see booker or deval as impossible to beat

    i think she would be deluded enough to run in such circumstances

    that is my nightmare scenario for 2020

  495. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/gop-rep-desantis-reveals-big-names-hauled-front-congress-white-house-leaks/

    Yeah, that is what we need. Dog and pony shows.

    Arrest the leakers and the problem will resolve itself.

  496. Walt says:

    “Hillary is this generation’s Adlai Stevenson…”

    I knew Adlai Stevenson, and SHE sir, is no Adlai Stevenson.

  497. lisab says:

    the gop side will also be terrible in 2020

    someone will almost certainly challenge, probably but not necessarily a total lightweight

    and robbie et al. will go on and on about how great that person is

  498. Wes says:

    Liz Warren is the death knell for Senate Democrats. Of all her endorsees in 2014 and 2016, Gary Peters is the only one I can think of who won. I’d love to see her as the Dem nominee in 2020 so as to make the Dems lose a few more Senate races.

  499. lisab says:

    a krauthammer/ryan approved candidate could challenge — the establishment

    and

    a kristol/cheney approved candidate could challenge — the neocons

  500. lisab says:

    at least the soc-cons will probably stick with pence

  501. lisab says:

    i suppose the never-trumpers could also pick a separate candidate , like kasich

  502. Tina says:

    I lthinkmthe drats shouldmrun eric holder at the top of the ticket.

  503. lisab says:

    warren i think is the odds on favorite for the nomination

    and will immediately poll a substantial favorite over trump

    she will be more beloved than hillary as nominee

    msnbc and cnn will kiss her butt so much she will be nicknamed the blarney stone

  504. Tina says:

    Michael Flynn Jr?? @mflynnJR
    ·
    5h

    ???You’re a f##king psycho @LouiseMensch ???
    Louise Mensch @LouiseMensch
    I don’t think they told @genflynn no deal. He gave up a lot in to spare @mflynnJR the death penalty. A better dad than @realDonaldTrump

    Mensch is the jebots mascot.

  505. Tina says:

    Kamela Harris is meeting with Hillarys people in the Hamptons.

    Please run her, if holder is a no-go.

  506. lisab says:

    2020 will almost certainly be a nightmare election

    if things stay like they are now cnn will pst things like

    among deported undocumented unlicensed street corner pharmacists

    cnn has found warren leads 75% to trump’s 2% among registered undocumented immigrants

    and robbie will continue to post it

  507. lisab says:

    the democrat primary debates will be so shrill only dogs and dolphins will be able to hear the candidates’ answers

  508. lisab says:

    presidential debate #1

    q1 megyn kelly: trump you bastard, how many more women have you groped since yesterday? and what is the capital of assyria?

    q2 rachel maddow: senator warren, do you have a sister?

    q3 juan williams: trump you bastard, why do you hate minorities? and who is the prime minister of chile’s chef?

    q4 mika brzezinski: senator warren, what question would you like to answer?

    it will be a total fuster cluck

  509. lisab says:

    the dnc did not want to let fox news run a debate in 2012 and 2016 because they said they were too partisan

    how does cnn and nbc run a debate in 2020?

  510. Phil says:

    Harris is the rising Marxist super star out of California. Will win the nomination if she wants it.

    Sadly, she would beat Trump I am afraid. She will make Obama look like a moderate. The damage she will do to America will be extensive and perhaps irreversible.

  511. lisab says:

    at least robbie and corey will be happy

  512. lisab says:

    though i am not sure a california dem could win the midwest

    a fair number of new englanders would not vote

    although it would only possibly matter in nh

  513. Phil says:

    Trump only won Texas by nine points. My state will deliver the R nominee my state by twenty aginst Harris so there is that. We don’t like Marxists and it won’t sell here. Unfortunately, that won’t make any difference in the overall electoral college.

  514. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – No political damage to the US is irreversible. If we can overcome slavery and Bunu being allowed to vote, we can survive anything.

  515. lisab says:

    california dems are a difficult sell among working class midwesterners

  516. PresidentPaul! says:

    Italy plotting against EU overlords

    “Italy plots ‘nuclear option’ to migrant crisis by giving EU visas to 200,000 incomers and sending them north as the country struggles with ‘human warehouse’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4699210/Italy-EU-visas-200-000-migrants-send-north.html

  517. Phil says:

    Overcoming bunu voting – well, yeah. Overcoming that does in fact prove the resiliency of America. Good point.

  518. Tina says:

    She is out there and no moderate.

    Hates law enforcement, etc.

  519. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/top-trump-advisor-never-even-heard-word-russia-campaign-video/

    Big time hoax. You would think there would be sime evidence as to how russia interfered.

  520. lisab says:

    i went to my favorite ny cafe today, which i can only visit ocasionally because it is so far away from where i live

    i really dislike people who stand at the condiment stand and put a little honey in their coffee then sip, then stir then sip, then put in a little cream then sip, then put in a little more cream then sip, then put in some cinnamon then sip, then stir …..

    there is no word in english that adequately describes my withering stare today

  521. Phil says:

    Just think of Harris as a much younger Elizabeth Warren. Lisa is right. It would have to be the rust belt that would have to stop her electorally.

  522. PresidentPaul! says:

    Phil-America supported my candidate for president.

    Jeb/Marco/Kasich got destroyed.

  523. Tina says:

    Lisa theyndo that and carry on a conversation to boot.

    Both of those actions annoy me.

  524. Phil says:

    I thought your candidate was Rand Paul and he got exactly one primary vote – yours.

  525. Bitterlaw says:

    Hillary and her supporters believe that the election was stolen. I can see her running again and winning. Trump probably can’t take any of Hillary’s 2016 states in 2020 but Hillary would only have to focus on states like Michigan, Wisconsin and PA to win.

    I am not saying that she will run but I strongly believe that she wants to run.

  526. lisab says:

    i don’t think the dems are done offending working people, white people, veterans, christians, gun owners, or heterosexuals

    unless a centrist dem can rise like clinton did in 1992 — which i think would be a godsend for the dem party, i think they will have their own problems

    certain groups will want a woman, others a minority, others a committed socialist. there is a balkanization problem in the dem party right now

    they don’t have a tito to keep every faction in line

  527. PresidentPaul! says:

    #458

    He dropped out after Iowa. He was my candidate, but I also liked Trump at the time, which is who I voted for.

    Also Trump grew stronger and stronger as a candidate particularly in the SC debate.

  528. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump at the S.C. GOP was the strongest debate performance of any candidate in my life time.

  529. Phil says:

    Bitter, Hillary will be 73 and probably won’t get very far if she does run. However, I agree completely with you that she WANTS to run. She just won’t be able to ever shake that desire to want to run things. Loves power.

  530. Phil says:

    Lisa is right about Democrats needing to nominate a centrist that won’t offend the groups she mentioned. Thing is I believe we would all be hard pressed to name one anymore.

  531. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – The don’t need to nominate a real centrist (they don’t exist). They just need somebody that the media will make into a centrist without too much effort. Remember, they tried to make Hillary into a centrist but even the Dems knew it was a lie.

  532. PresidentPaul! says:

    The dems instincts will be to nominate a communist, but the fake-news and the party officials will keep reminding them how important is to defeat Hitler I mean Trump so they might nominate a centrist because of that.

  533. PresidentPaul! says:

    Paul Begala who is a former massively paid-liar for president Clinton says we need to go to war with Russia

    http://www.targetliberty.com/2017/07/insane-cnn-commentator-calls-for.html

    “We Should Be Bombing Russia Massively” says fake news-CNN commentator Paul Begala because Donald Trump, Jr. took a meeting with a Russian woman who does not speak English but wanted to talk about allowing Americans to adopt Russian babies. The entire Deep State establishment has gone insane with diseased brains.”

  534. Phil says:

    Bitter, you are right on about the media and the way they shape coverage of candidates to try and influence voter perceptions of Democratic candidates. I can give you two great examples out of my own state. Calling Ron Kirk a “conservative Democrat” in his senate race against John Cornyn in 2002 – a complete joke if there ever was one and then my all time favorite – their pathetic attempt to paint Wendy Davis as a moderate in the last governor’s race. LOL Went nowhere, but oh how they tried!

  535. lisab says:

    oh … another anoying thing

    so i got my school to purchase some robots for my school last year. i did all the work, got the funding, contacted the companies etc. it was a lot of money too, $4000+

    one company made big promises to me about support and i ordered maybe $500 – $1000 worth. i got the robots but zero support. they would not answer my phone call or reply to my email. so i did not order any more, and we basically won’t be using them because we don’t really have enough.

    the company had the audacity to email me and ask me to buy more for this fall!!!!! it was the same sales person too!!!!! they acted like everything was fine.

    when i told them in no uncertain terms that i was not a satisfied customer, the sales girl came back with, “well we have no record of you expressing dissatisfaction, we cannot help you f you don’t tell us. this year we will work extra hard to communicate better”

    “you don’t have a record of my school being dissatisfied BECAUSE YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY PHONE CALLs!!!!!”

    it took a lot of energy to be reasonably polite on my part

  536. Jonesy says:

    If the GOP thought Hillary was going to to run, they would be gleeful. She is a two time loser, and Sessions could convene a Grand Jury on her ASAP

  537. Jonesy says:

    I think the Obama experiment ruined any chances for Kamala. She could never win Florida either

  538. Jonesy says:

    Phil, it is all a moot point. If the Economy is good Trump wins. That simple.

    No incumbent in the modern era has lost with a good GDP

  539. PresidentPaul! says:

    I don’t understand the school curriculum in K through 12 as I’m believer in math, English and perhaps foreign language and I think the other subjects are mostly worthless and a waste of time at that age. I also don’t think you can’t learn English correctly with extensive sentence diagramming of complex sentence structure at least at Shakespeare level. His writing is an excellent material to diagram as it’s always grammatically correct.

    There is really no point in working on writing when the students can’t grasp the basics.

    Those ACT tests should be extremely easy material, but all of the students struggle at it proving no one is being taught anything.

  540. Phil says:

    I don’t know, Jonesy. With demographic trends being what they are the Florida electorate will probably be another two percent Hispanic in 2020. Wouldn’t take much to tip it.

  541. lisab says:

    we ended up upgrading our lego robots

    really nice robots but insanely expensive

    if a company made a cheap easy to use expandable robot kit for $150 a kit they would clean up.

    both vex and lego are super expensive

  542. Phil says:

    …and, yes – the economy is always the leading factor in a presidential election. Agree with that one, but look for the media to talk down the economy 24/7.

  543. PresidentPaul! says:

    Why do allow high school teachers to teach “creative writing” when 99% of the students can’t grasp basic sentence mechanics of their native language?

    The teachers know this intuitively as well, but since most teachers are liberals anyways they adopt strange ideologies stating that the grammar/sentence structure is an old fashion concept that changes with new generations so should be ignored. The English classes end up being a Seinfeld class about nothing except being present. Meanwhile they spend equal time on subjects like history that don’t matter at all.

  544. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – I agree that proper English needs to be taught. However, I am not opposed to trying to connect to students in different ways when the basics are mastered.

    Right now, I am sitting and entering time into the firm’s billing program. It is not exactly a riveting task. I am also listening to the cast album of Hamilton – every word is perfectly used even if the grammar is not always correct. It certainly engages students in history (not fully accurate) and communication.

  545. PresidentPaul! says:

    This man knows his grammar.

    Word Crimes!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

  546. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw any English teacher who is trying to teach grammar with the Strunk and White is full of it.

    That’s teaching random stuff to me. Some of it’s useful for sure, but that’s not a way to teach English.

  547. PresidentPaul! says:

    Sentence diagramming is the key. Every word has to be parsed. The sentences need to be compound and complex.

    The students need to justify every since comma/punctuation mark. Start with simple sentences and work up to the most complex and confusing sentences you can find in literature.

    Once you understand how to tear sentence structure part….then go learn to write.

    Some very gifted students can grasp this stuff naturally but the other 90 or maybe 99% can’t.

  548. PresidentPaul! says:

    Mayweather should win this fight, but what’s the chances that Connor goes Mystic Mac again and knocks him out?

    Connor predicts the future. Legend of the Mystic Mac

  549. PresidentPaul! says:

    Floyd all time defensive genius.

    Freak of nature

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jueeqBcWLYw

  550. lisab says:

    bunu,

    we try to not make students hate school

  551. PresidentPaul! says:

    #574
    They probably hate it because the day is so long teaching subjects that don’t matter like economics, history, life science, even art and music, geography, psychology, crafts, whatever else, when all of them are deficient at the basics.

  552. Bitterlaw says:

    If Bunu ran the schools:

    English – The speeches of Ron Paul – Perfection of grammar and thought.

    History – Hitler built great highways. The Holocaust and other fake news.

    Economics – Show Ron Paul’s gold speculation videos.

  553. lisab says:

    bunu,

    starting at the beginning of your rant, i.e. economics, how does economics not matter?

    producing flowers or butter is the basis for things like how much a company should produce, how many people they should hire and how much they should pay?!!!

    the other items matter too, but just taking them in the order listed …

  554. lisab says:

    as for history, if you don’t know history, you woul not understand why germany is the way it is …

    they are trying to make up for being a bunch of murderous bastards

  555. PresidentPaul! says:

    One point to make is that economics is not a science but a social science in the same way that political science is a social science.

    Economics is extremely political, and you learn radically different frameworks depending on who is teaching it.

    As far as history goes, I don’t want the government teaching its version of history to the students. They’ll probably put a picture of Bush or Obama or in the books.

  556. lisab says:

    life science?

    eating crap with no exercise will make you fat

  557. lisab says:

    geography?

    should not students know where they live? and where other people live?

  558. lisab says:

    psychology?

    shouldn’t people know about issues like addictin, depression, mental illness etc.

  559. lisab says:

    arts, crafts, and music?

    they encourage creaivity and self expression

    for example the cnn wrestling meme

  560. lisab says:

    yes, economics is a social science.

    but you can change the price of an item and see how demand changes

  561. lisab says:

    They’ll probably put a picture of Bush or Obama or in the books.
    ———

    well, since both were presidents, probably so …

  562. PresidentPaul! says:

    No they should Lisa because they are severely deficient in the basics.

  563. PresidentPaul! says:

    12 years of English, and the English language overwhelms them.

    And forget about trying to match Asia in mathematics.

  564. Bitterlaw says:

    shouldn’t people know about issues like addictin, depression, mental illness etc.

    Well, I don’t believe that depression is a medical condition. It’s just being weak. Life sucks. Accept it or cry about it. Your choice. However, you can teach about it.

  565. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not believe that any student should have to read Ethan Frome. It is the worst novel ever written.

  566. Walt Duke says:

    Bubu is crazy.

    And every student should learn animal husbandry.

  567. Cash Cow TM says:

    Wtf?

    Cash cow posted #589.
    Must be the damn Rooshins hacking HHR.

  568. Cash Cow TM says:

    Or m aybe it was #590.

    Who is John Galt….who is Walt Duke….?

  569. Tina says:

    Senate Healtcare vote on obumblercare light is delayed.

    Mccain is recovering from surgery.

    Mitchie looks really ineffective. Worst majoritynleader.

  570. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt Duke is a WV legislator. Walt is a really old dude who posts here. No relationship at all.

  571. Wes says:

    In addition to a Bachelor’s in history that taught him Jefferson Davis was renowned as a leader in the Senate for the three years Davis served as a Senator during the antebellum period–I’m still waiting for the citation telling us Davis was a Senate leader (whatever the hell that actually means since the Senate wouldn’t have any formal leadership structure for 60 more years) by the way–Bitterlaw also apparently has a psychology degree allowing him to unilaterally eliminate a common mental pathology from the DSM.

    Great job, Bitter!

  572. Wes says:

    I do agree Ethan Frome should not be required reading. It’s almost as painful to slog through as Middlemarch, The Catcher in the Rye, Silas Marner, and Ulysses.

  573. MichiganGuy says:

    More than 3,000 Colorado voters have unregistered since Trump’s Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity requested personal data on voters in late June

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article161455238.html

    No voter fraud here. Move along nothing to see here.

  574. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Liberal World is all jazzed about the newly released ABC/Washington Post Poll showing Trump’s approval rating at 36% with Adults. (PID D+ 7)
    What they neglect to mention is his 39% approval rating(still weak) among registered voters.
    Also, check out the data for questions 2 and 5. On #2, The Donald has a +4 with respect to the economy. On #5, only 35% say the Democrats have policy plans.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/07/16/National-Politics/Polling/question_18935.xml?uuid=QLWiFmnbEeeUq1sfD_RZ3w

  575. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    # 598
    Add: My conclusion that was supported by a poll released earlier this week, is that 60% of Trump’s disapproval number is the result of his character and personality and not his policies.

  576. JC says:

    CNN just showed an info graph poll displaying

    36% strongly approve of trump
    11% Somewhat approve.

    Yet the headline said “only 36% approve for stalled agenda”.

    Fake news

  577. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #599
    Add; Gallup confirms my conclusions in its July 14th analysis:

    “People can disapprove of a president for a number of reasons. At this point in the first year of his presidency, those who disapproved of Barack Obama focused mainly on their disagreement with his policy actions and positions on issues. Now, those who disapprove of Trump focus primarily on his personality and character as the reasons for their disapprobation.”

  578. Tina says:

    I am so excited about the wp poll

    Jebot

  579. Trump says:

    Fake polls. You morons never learn.

    Behold:

    “”Clinton Vaults to a Double -Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump”

    ABC News election tracking poll, October 23, 2016.

    Likely voter disapproval of Trump: 69-24.

    Based on this track, Trump would have 400+ EVs if the election were held today.

    More laughing material from the fake poll:

    Clinton is ahead 44-41 among men. (Trump won men by 11 points)

    Trump ahead among whites 47-43. (Trump won whites by 20 points)

    I don’t know who these poll respondents are, but they are not real voters.

  580. Trump says:

    And don’t even talk about Gallup.

    They are so good that they declined to poll the 2016 race.

  581. Trump says:

    I am not sure who is buying these fake news and fake polls, it certainly ain’t real voters.

  582. Trump says:

    The good thing about these fake polls is that they give a false picture to the losers like Hillary.

    Who then decides to skip campaigning in wi, mi and pa.

  583. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Trump
    I mostly agree that the MSM Polling is seriously skewed against The Donald and Republicans.
    My thinking at this time is that 2018 could be an anti-incumbency election,which is a positive for the GOP in the Senate and a negative for the GOP in House and Governors’ elections.

  584. Tina says:

    Key points frim Erick the Red

    My understanding is there are generally only two grounds for such permission to be given. First, a lawyer like Ms. Veselnitskaya could show she was the only legal agent of a company currently in court. That did not apply here because Prevezon also retained the American law firm Baker Hostetler, which also has ties to Fusion GPS. The second way is to have a collaborative relationship with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

    Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned “to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump.” Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

    It could just be a coincidence that the Obama Administration let Natalia Veselnitskaya enter the United States to meet with Donald Trump, Jr. It could also be a coincidence that her client, Prevezon, hired Fusion GPS to help Russia at the same time Fusion GPS was compiling a dossier on Donald Trump claiming Trump was working with the Russians. And it could be a coincidence that the FBI considered hiring the man who helped Fusion GPS compile that dossier.

  585. Tina says:

    Senator Grassley, in a press release outlining his potential questions to former FBI Director James Comey, notes that the FBI planned “to hire former British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Donald Trump during the presidential campaign, even though the FBI was aware that he was being paid by Democrat political operatives to conduct opposition research on Trump.” Steele, you see, helped Fusion GPS compile the dossier on Donald Trump.

    Comedy wanted to oay for the dossier, paid for by drats using a foreign government officiak, using sources and contacts from Russia.

  586. Tina says:

    Eli Lake @EliLake
    MAGA insiders tell me many Trump supporters don’t think the Don Jr. story is a big deal.

    Nothingburger.

  587. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Correction to #598
    The new ABC/WP Poll has a PID of D+12, not +7.Real garbage!

  588. Jonesy says:

    In terms of this bogus talk of Kamala Harris comparisons to Obama in 2008. rubbish.

    Obama had the luxury of a open seat in 2008, and did not have to run against a incumbent with much firepower and the power of the pulpit.

    Incumbency is a powerful tool, and the only two to lose after one term in modern history were:

    Carter-awful economy
    Bush 1- 12 years of GOP fatigue and bad economy.

  589. Tina says:

    Kamela or Eric Holder. Top two choices.

  590. Robbie says:

    The poll fiskers are falling down the job. The ABC poll was posted at midnight last night. It took eight hours for someone to bring up the partisan breakdown of the poll. Sad!

    By the way, the final ABC tracking poll had the race at 49-46 Clinton. The actual result was 48-46 Clinton. It was off by .8 percentage points.

  591. Jonesy says:

    Robbie, when will you ever learn. You always post the final polling, but try to avoid the polling done a month out etc.. that show Clinton winning by double digits, or like you predicting Trump would lose Utah in September

  592. Trump says:

    Retard,

    Why do you bring up the final abc poll?
    You’d have to compare this crap to the nov 2020 poll then, won’t you, moron?

  593. Trump says:

    All this poll does is give masturbating material to retards like you, Robbie.

  594. Jonesy says:

    ABC/compost poll also shows only 9% of GOP voters care about Russia. Down from 18% in April.

    Robbie you are a embarrassment.

  595. Trump says:

    So jerk away.

  596. Trump says:

    So how is president Hillary working out for you, retard Robbie?

    374 ev’s, moron?

  597. Tina says:

    Nobody cares about muh russia other than the loons

  598. Jonesy says:

    Tina, these pollsters that Robbie loves, spend a year putting out bogus oversampled polls to make Trump look like a sure loser, and then on the final days, finally get closer.

    WaPo had various polls showing Clinton winning by 15 to 20 in Virginia etc..

    Robbie did that this whole summer and Fall, citing crap polling, Then says he was close on his 270towin Map.

    You are a fraud Reynolds Wrap

  599. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 16, 2017 at 10:56 am
    Robbie, when will you ever learn. You always post the final polling, but try to avoid the polling done a month out etc.. that show Clinton winning by double digits, or like you predicting Trump would lose Utah in September

    – Chief Justice Robert Bork.

  600. Trump says:

    The only accurate poll is Trump 306, Hillary 232.

    Wrap your puny so-called mind around that, retard Robbue

  601. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 16, 2017 at 10:58 am
    ABC/compost poll also shows only 9% of GOP voters care about Russia. Down from 18% in April.
    Robbie you are a embarrassment.

    – Chief Justice Robert Bork.

  602. Trump says:

    Every other poll is fake, moron.

  603. Trump says:

    How’s that famous brokered convention coming along, retard?

  604. Trump says:

    “Months of Trump-Russia Stories Have Changed Few Minds” – HuffPo.

    Even the loons are abandoning the retard Robbie.

  605. Wes says:

    Kamala Harris made Loretta Sanchez look moderate and represents the absolute extreme of her party on all issues including the racial ones. If Dems want to continue to hemorrhage whites, Harris should be their nominee.

    With Harris as the nominee, MI, WI, and PA solidify as GOP states while CO, NV, MN, VA, NH, ME, and possibly NM are highly likely to flip back into the GOP fold,

    Personally I’d like to see Dems nominate a Warren-Harris or Harris-Warren ticket and bring an electoral Ragnarok on themselves.

  606. Tina says:

    They lost eric the red over muh russian. He is a big time never trumper.

    It is over.

    For muh rusian to stop, sessions needs to charge farkas, the goid year blimp, comedy, etc.

  607. Tina says:

    I had to vote for loretta for senate over eric holder 2.0. Sucks with tiered voting and the rs not being able to field.

  608. Tina says:

    Eric Holder 2.0 is not moderate in any manner,

  609. Robbie says:

    It’s a bit hard for me to understand Jonesy’s view on polling. In essence, is he saying, that unless polling shows the same thing throughout the entire race, it has to be disregarded as false and inconsistent?

    In July 1988, Bush trailed Dukakis by 17 according to Gallup, but won the race decisively. He ran a great campaign that changed people’s minds. Reagan did the same thing in 1980. The race was nip and tuck until the last week and then Reagan changed people’s minds with the debate.

    Plenty of polling showed Clinton with a strong lead throughout the early Fall. Had the election been in early October, she’d have won. It wasn’t though. Trump closed strongly (stayed on message) and Jim Comey announced he was reopening the email case. The facts changed so people’s views changed. That led to a change in the polling.

    Suggesting because a poll says one thing a month or two out and then another right before election day doesn’t mean the earlier polling was wrong. It means people changed their minds over the period of time and almost certainly because the winning candidate persuaded people. I thought that would be considered a good thing.

  610. Trump says:

    Moron, people don’t change their minds to reflect 20 point shift in 2 weeks.

    As usual, you make assertions that are unproven and unprovable, retard,

  611. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 16, 2017 at 10:56 am

    Robbie, when will you ever learn. You always post the final polling, but try to avoid the polling done a month out etc.. that show Clinton winning by double digits, or like you predicting Trump would lose Utah in September

    – What about the ABC poll done on September 22, 2016, which showed Clinton leading 46-44? What about the ABC poll on October 13, 2016, which showed Clinton leading 47-43? Why not mention those ABC polls as well? Why not mention those polls?

  612. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 16, 2017 at 11:28 am
    Moron, people don’t change their minds to reflect 20 point shift in 2 weeks.
    As usual, you make assertions that are unproven and unprovable, retard,

    – The October 22, 2016 ABC poll had Clinton ahead 50-37. Then came the Comey story. Two weeks later, Clinton got 48% on election day. So she lost two percentage points. On the other hand, Trump went from 37% to 46%. He gained nine percentage points. That seems to me to be an 11 point change when her loss is added to his gain.

    The Comey story was a big factor in the last 10 days. It reminded Republicans why they hated Clinton and it got a lot of reluctant Republicans to vote for Trump.

  613. Trump says:

    Keep spinning fake polls, retard.
    The only thing you keep doubling down is your own stupidity.

  614. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 16, 2017 at 11:41 am
    Keep spinning fake polls, retard.
    The only thing you keep doubling down is your own stupidity.

    – This is rich, even for soccer moron.

  615. Jonesy says:

    Robbie credibility is so shot here, that his only reply is Bork?

    How old are You? Really

  616. Jonesy says:

    631. Agree Wes

  617. Jonesy says:

    Now Wobbie blames his predictions on Comey? Pathetic

  618. Tina says:

    I thought that vito had polling numbers showing no change over comedys actions about reopening the case. Ii thought. Any of the so called political analysts said the same?

  619. Tina says:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/trump-s-approval-stands-50-percent-counties-fueled-his-win-n783151?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

    Nbc counters the fake wp poll.

    Btw, he is at 53 percent in ohio, likely around that number in florida.

  620. Tina says:

    Sekolow, gorka, kac, and miller shoukd answer all muh russian questions.

    They are pit bull like.

  621. Tina says:

    D plus 12

    Adults

    Done by wp fake news

    Garbage in and out.

  622. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 16, 2017 at 11:58 am
    Robbie credibility is so shot here, that his only reply is Bork?
    How old are You? Really

    – I get a kick out of the way Jonesy acts as though he’s a long term poster here. He’s been around since June of this year.

  623. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2017 at 12:19 pm
    D plus 12
    Adults
    Done by wp fake news
    Garbage in and out.

    – Says the person who constantly posts stories/views from Gateway Pundit, Mike Cernovich, and Jack Posobiec. Posobiec, by the way, was a prime pusher of the Pizzagate hoax.

  624. Robbie says:

    A couple of stats from the NBC/WSJ poll posted in 647.

    – “In the Trump “surge counties” (for example: Carbon, Pa., where Trump won 65 percent to 31 percent, versus Romney’s 53-45 percent margin) — 56 percent of residents approve of the president’s job performance.”

    That’s a loss of 9 points since election day.

    “But in the “flip counties” (for example: Luzerne, Pa., where Obama won 52 percent to 47 percent, compared to Trump’s 58-39 margin), Trump’s job rating stands at just 44 percent.”

    That’s a loss of 8 points since election day.

  625. Robbie says:

    A correction to 650.

    Trump has lost 14 points in the “flip” counties since election day.

  626. Tina says:

    At least i do not recycle kos, wp, and ng times.

    Maggie whisoer me something.

  627. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 16, 2017 at 12:00 pm
    Now Wobbie blames his predictions on Comey? Pathetic

    – Why no comment on the other ABC news polls last September and October that showed a 47-43 race and a 46-44 race? Why the focus only on the one that supports your distorted view of how polling should work?

  628. Tina says:

    No law ciolations, likely on other side, with the possible exception of the pepe dossier.

  629. Phil says:

    What’s the real party ID? I get a little suspicious when the Washington Post just happens to leave out the party I D in their methodology.

  630. Tina says:

    Drat plus 12

    Not even a reg voter poll

  631. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    5h

    Thank you to former campaign adviser Michael Caputo for saying so powerfully that there was no Russian collusion in our winning campaign.

    Capito is respected across oarty lines.

  632. Tina says:

    One must admit that sekulow and gorka are really effective.

    Glad that there is an administratiin that defends itselfm which the bushes do nit believe in.

  633. Tina says:

    So another “uh oh” moment for the Dems, compliments of Mark Warner on Face the Nation today.

    When asked about Comey’s memos, Warner said he has seen the memos and wants the public to see them as well –
    “BUT SOME ARE CLASSIFIED”.

    Little,slip of the tongue, His case is ten times worse that petrarus. Leaks persisted since january.

    Federal records violation.

    Distrubing materials with intent.

  634. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 16, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    What’s the real party ID? I get a little suspicious when the Washington Post just happens to leave out the party I D in their methodology.

    – You’ve been a round long enough to know partisan ID in a poll is a non-factor. Remember this comment section’s sad foray into poll skewing in 2012? Remember unskewit.com? How’d that work out?

    Partisan affiliation is a sentiment. It’s not a hard factor like gender and race. People tend to associate with Republicans when they like them. People tend to not associate with them when they don’t like them.

  635. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2017 at 12:44 pm
    One must admit that sekulow and gorka are really effective.
    Glad that there is an administratiin that defends itselfm which the bushes do nit believe in.

    – LOL. The 700 Club lawyer and a guy who has nothing to do in the White House because he can’t get a security clearance.

  636. janz says:

    Tina, I’m unable to stomach the Sunday news shows anymore, so it was interesting to hear you share Warner’s disclosure about “classified” info in Comey’s memos.

    This entire political episode, revolving around “Russian collusion,” however, is not only mind boggling, but also obsessively damaging for the country. What is to be gained from it, but further polarization nationally, and incredible embarrassment internationally.

  637. Tina says:

    Sekulow confirms that mueller has not interviewed trump and no request to do so from the sp.

    Says that sp was set up under false pretenses.

  638. Tina says:

    Warner let it slip. But the problem is that the memos are still priveledged, He leaked them with the intent to trigger an sp. Testified to do that.

    I think sessions shoukd charge him. Ironicalky, the statutue does not require intent, but meets comedys dedinition.

    It is petreus all over times 100.

  639. Phil says:

    Come on, Robbie. It”s a poll of ADULTS compared to actual voters on Election Day. Are you kidding me?

    Example Carbon County. They cite how Trump got 65 percent on Election Day. Today they sight “a loss of nine points with an approval of 56 percent of RESIDENTS”. COMPARING ACTUAL VOTERS to their current poll of RESIDENTS (adults) is malpractice and stating a nine point drop is a joke. Anyone who has followed polling knows Democrats benefit greatly with adult polls vs both registered voters and even more with likely voters. Yet, they just casually pass these apples to orange numbers as a factual “nine point drop”. Unbelievable.

    Typical MSM crap. They haven’t learned a damned thing. If anything they are getting worse.

    Trump has his approval number problems, but this is utter garbage.

  640. Tina says:

    They need to look at comedys role with the dossier. D he py for it, or try to? Did he know that it was drat opposition reaearh?

    Also, why did he not timely inform congress of the wiretaps.

  641. Phil says:

    As far as the party breakdown of the poll you’re saying it doesn’t matter so they are justified in not publishing it?

    However, comparing Election Day voter numbers to a poll of adults and citing the number difference is laughable. It is beyond that. It is pathetic.

  642. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:01 pm
    They need to look at comedys role with the dossier. D he py for it, or try to? Did he know that it was drat opposition reaearh?
    Also, why did he not timely inform congress of the wiretaps.

    – So we need to look into Comey, Farkas, Veselnitskaya, and the DNC/Ukraine, but not Don Jr.

  643. Tina says:

    Glad that you finally acknowledge wiretapping, kos kid.

  644. Tina says:

    If sessions charged comedy, the next thing the drats and the jebots will argue ismthat sesssions shoukd have recused himself.

    Sorry, he did nit recuse himself from that.

  645. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:05 pm
    As far as the party breakdown of the poll you’re saying it doesn’t matter so they are justified in not publishing it?
    However, comparing Election Day voter numbers to a poll of adults and citing the number difference is laughable. It is beyond that. It is pathetic.

    – No, I’m not saying that at all. In fact, I believe ABC did publish the partisan breakdown because others mentioned it earlier in this thread. What I have said for years and years is the focus on partisan breakdown as a reason to dismiss polling is a wrong. It is a sentiment. It’s not race or gender.

  646. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:07 pm
    Glad that you finally acknowledge wiretapping, kos kid.

    – Have you and Jack Posobiec ever gotten to the bottom of Pizzagate?

  647. Tina says:

    Phil, you probably do not want to listen to rottie on polling.

    Just an fyi,

  648. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:11 pm
    Phil, you probably do not want to listen to rottie on polling.
    Just an fyi,

    – Yeah, Phil. Listen to someone who gets her news from Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit, Mike Cernovich, and Jack Posobiec.

  649. Trump says:

    Retard doubles down on fake news, as always.

    Nothing new.

    He wouldn’t be a retarded monkey otherwise.

  650. Phil says:

    How about comparing election day voter numbers to a poll of adults and then citing the difference as a specific number drop? They do that all over their write up. Justify that one.

    They will get taken to the woodshed by blogs all over the internet for this one, but the Washington Post and ABC news don’t really care, do they? They got their message out there and they don’t give a rat’s ass what they have to do to construct the talking point. Makes me sick and you are only too happy to spread their fertilizer.

  651. Trump says:

    677:

    The thing is, nobody is buying their fertilizer except stupid idiots like the retarded Robbie, and losers like Hillary.

    2016 elections proved that. Based on the fake polls, Hillary decided to skip campaigning in states like pa, mi and wi.

    I say, pile the fertilizer on.

  652. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, in the real world,

    “Russia Scandal Looks Different Outside of Washington”

    2 percent of republicans p, and 12 percent of overall, cite Russia as their top two issues, 100 of the fake media thinks it is the top issue.

    For the rest of the country, the issue are economy, healthcare and immigration.

  653. Trump says:

    As I keep saying, ” look, squirrel!”

  654. Bitterlaw says:

    All the polls are wrong. Reweight them!

  655. lisab says:

    “But in the “flip counties” (for example: Luzerne, Pa., where Obama won 52 percent to 47 percent, compared to Trump’s 58-39 margin), Trump’s job rating stands at just 44 percent.”

    That’s a loss of 8 points since election day. A correction to 650.

    Trump has lost 14 points in the “flip” counties since election day.
    ————————————–

    actually, there is no evidence for what you say.

    “who would you vote for hillary or trump?” is not the same question as “do you approve of trump’s job performance so far?”

    in fact, several people on hhr have even said they did not support trump but voted for him anyway over hillary.

    pretty much any republican in favor of shutting down coal, completely open borders and completely free trade even if the other country imposed 500% tarriffs on usa good … i.e. the gop establishment

    would almost certainly still prefer trump over hillary and yet not approve of him pulling out of tpp, the paris accords or driving down illegal immigration

  656. Trump says:

    Gallup June 2017:

    Most important issue facing the country:

    Situation with Russia – 1 percent

    This is what the retard Robbie is hanging his hat on.

  657. lisab says:

    a number of prostitutes in nevada, where brothels are legal, have organized as ‘hookers for healthcare’ to oppose the republican healthcare legislation now pending in the u.s. senate.

    this poses a real quandary. i don’t know which side to believe. on one side, there’s this small group of amoral people who every day debase themselves by doing anything, no matter how disgusting and depraved, to please the men who give them money.

    and, on the other side, we’ve got hookers.

  658. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:22 pm
    How about comparing election day voter numbers to a poll of adults and then citing the difference as a specific number drop? They do that all over their write up. Justify that one.
    They will get taken to the woodshed by blogs all over the internet for this one, but the Washington Post and ABC news don’t really care, do they? They got their message out there and they don’t give a rat’s ass what they have to do to construct the talking point. Makes me sick and you are only too happy to spread their fertilizer.

    – I’ll justify it because that was the data they provided in the piece. We compare polling data to previous election day data all of the time. We did that regularly in 2012 by noting how Obama was underperforming his 2008 totals.

    I’d much prefer RV data than that of adults, but we’re 16 months from an election. They’re not going to provide such detailed dats at this point. We deal with what we have and right now the data shows a drop off since election day. You can quibble about the amount, but the drop off is there.

  659. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:40 pm
    All the polls are wrong. Reweight them!

    – I just had a flashback to July 2012! Now, if only someone would mention the delbov curve.

  660. MichiganGuy says:

    You remember Emma Sulkowicz, aka “Mattress Girl,” don’t you?” She accused fellow student Paul Nungesser of what these days is termed “gender-based misconduct,” but which seems to be really just rape, or maybe sexual assault, if a jury so found. But after a thorough investigation by University authorities, Nungesser was exonerated.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/columbia_university_pays_large_settlement_to_student_harassed_by_senior_thesis_of_mattress_girl_.html#ixzz4n1GQ8yob

  661. Robbie says:

    Sean T at RCP?
    @SeanTrende

    BTW, I misinterpreted a poll tweet I saw early this AM. The poll of Trump counties is bad, bad news for Rs. Sorry about that!

  662. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #650
    Robbie continues to cherry pick data in polls.
    He conveniently neglected to state that in the NBC Poll released today, The Donald is up to 50% from 40% a month ago.
    Robbie has no credibility in analyzing polls since he ignores ridiculous PID’s. For him, a D+40 or R+40 poll would be A-OK.
    Sorry to see that Bitter agrees with Robbie’s thinking on polling.

  663. Mr.Vito says:

    “Bitterlaw says:
    July 16, 2017 at 1:40 pm
    All the polls are wrong. Reweight them!”

    Reweighting a poll is not the same as saying the poll is wrong… the polls are all weighted by the pollsters themselves. It is stating that you do not think the pollster is reflecting the correct electorate.

    In fairness, over the last two cycles the polls that were right were properly weighted to the Election Day electorate, and the many that were wrong were not.

    The latest WaPo poll is D+12. If you believe it will be D+12 on Election Day, then you can bet Republicans will get slaughtered.

    The polls that had Clinton winning all summer were like that… they did not accurately reflect the electorate on Election Day.

    The polls tightened over the last two weeks… people said there was movement in the electorate… but the actual voters from exit polls about when they decided their vote did not justify that much movement.

    So if Gallup has their latest reading for party affiliation at D+6 and this is D+12, then it could be justified.

    Basically for a decade now the polling has said Dems, Dems, Dems galore!! Guess what… when there were the polling looked and good and when there weren’t the polls looked ridiculous.

    Math works… Shocking I know.

  664. Tina says:

    Yeah rcp, how wrong were they in 2016. Averaging sheot got you a lot of sheot.

  665. Tina says:

    What does maggie say about the poll?

  666. Tina says:

    Can he be at 53 in ohio amd 37 natnally?

  667. Phil says:

    NO, you deal with what you have, Robbie, but you NEVER compare apples to oranges and comparing actual voters to a poll of adults is not even comparing a fruit to a fruit. That’s absolute bullsh*t and you know it.

    We compare polling data with previous elections all the time. Generally speaking but even in those instances you at least use registered voters for God’s sake and better yet likely voters. You don’t take election day numbers of actual voters and compare them to a poll of adults and then tell the reader that’s a 9 point drop..or a 14 point drop…or assign any number to it. Complete garbage. There’s a reason pollsters don’t publish polls using an “adult” sample. It would include the most uninformed, gradeschool educated and yes, non citizens including illegals and you’d be WAAAAAY off on election day. How unrepresentative can you get? To say nothing of the fact that adults only polls are decidedly more Democratic which is another reason I wanted to see their party ID. Still waiting on that one. Only in their dreams can Democrats have an adult voting universe on election day. You think the California results were good for Clinton on election day? Throw in the noncitizen and especially illegal “adult” numbers and you’d be in Democratic Party heaven.

    By your answer you just told me you CANNOT justify it….and you can’t. As you like to say, you’re better than that. Don’t try and BS us.

  668. Tina says:

    He only puts out what he reads on kos.

  669. Tina says:

    Yeah, adult,is garbage.

  670. lisab says:

    ou don’t take election day numbers of actual voters and compare them to a poll of adults and then tell the reader that’s a 9 point drop..or a 14 point drop…
    ———————–

    especially when the poll was about job approval

    which is a different question than who would you vote for, trump or hillary

    if the election were held again today, i think trump would beat hillary soundly

  671. Mr.Vito says:

    In fact, the most ridiculed person on polling, Polaris, repeatedly said that if it was over D+5 on Election Day 2008, then Rs would lose badly.

    His error was that it WAS that big a spread, and he insisted it wouldn’t be in the face of contrary information from Gallup party affiliation.

    In 2010, I kept pointing out that party affiliation in Gallup was off the charts for Rs and wasn’t being reflected in polling until the end. It was correct.

  672. Tina says:

    ABC/WaPo Poll: Just 9% of Republicans believe that Russia sought to influence our election, down from 18% in April. Tribalism at its finest.
    9:35 PM · Jul 15, 2017

    Number muncher.

    It is a hoax and the never trumpers keep losing more,and more,supporters.

  673. Mr.Vito says:

    Current party affiliation in Gallup is around D+7 with adults.

    From precedent, I believe that would basically put Rs in position for a disappointing night, in that they would make scant gains in the Senate and barely hold the house.

    No one is in blowout territory.

  674. Robbie says:

    It’s as if the last six years here, especially 2012, have been forgotten. Partisan ID is a floating variable. When people like a party, they associate with it in the polling. When they don’t like a party, they don’t associate with it in the polling. That’s why the percentage of Independents fluctuates so much. When people get frustrated with their own party, they often identify as Independent in polling.

    After 2007 and 2008, they were a lot of right leaning Independents. Why? They had become unhappy with the Republican Party and decided to identify themselves as Independent. They really weren’t undecided or changeable when it came to voting patterns, but they still felt the need to say they weren’t Republicans.

    Partisan ID changes with time. As such, most pollsters allow it to float because it gives an indication of how the parties are doing. It’s not like gender or race. Those are hard data points. For instance, there are more women than men so any national poll must reflect that fact otherwise the data will be skewed. Same with the number of whites, blacks, and Hispanics.

    The number than matters is what’s on the top line. And in the case of ABC, it’s result, 39% among RV, is right in line with all of the other contemporary polling.

  675. Tina says:

    I look at Schweikarts registration numbers in critical swing states. They are not shoeing good news for drats, for the most part.

    Florida plus 40k for the rs, is what he cited.

  676. Tina says:

    I coukd see us losing the house and keeping the senate, given the disappointjng oerformance by ryan and mitchie.

    They over promised and under delivered.

    Much like muh russia

  677. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2017 at 3:05 pm
    ABC/WaPo Poll: Just 9% of Republicans believe that Russia sought to influence our election, down from 18% in April. Tribalism at its finest.
    9:35 PM · Jul 15, 2017

    Number muncher.

    It is a hoax and the never trumpers keep losing more,and more,supporters.

    – So you don’t trust the poll overall, but you do trust a subset of the poll because it tells you something with which you agree?

  678. Mr.Vito says:

    What I said holds true since 2000 in both directions.

    Others have forgotten what they have chosen conveniently to forget.

  679. Phil says:

    It’s not garbage, Tina if you were to compare it to adult numbers on election day….but the Washington Post doesn’t do that. They compare completely different sample universes and give us an exact number of the decline in numbers for Trump based on two entirely different samples….the second sample with much friendlier demographics.

    It would be like having a guy batting 325 in the minors the first half of the season and then saying he’s a failure when he was promoted to the bigs the second half because he hit only 270 there….and trying to justify his “failure” because his average dropped exactly 55 points. Apples and oranges. Different universes in this case quality of pitching etc Adults and actual voters…..different universes. You don’t subtract one number from the other and quantify anything. BS methodology.

    I’m done on this. Wasted more than enough time on this garbage.

  680. Mr.Vito says:

    Partisan ID is absolutely a floating variable, which is why you should watch Gallup… it has been on the trend throughout history.

  681. Tina says:

    You lost goober, you lost eric the red, you lost your buddy, drat newsom. Only loons like you belive in muhnrussian.

  682. Tina says:

    Phil, so its garbage?

    Lol, its not and then you say it is. I pay scant attention tomthe wp and adult polls. Their political director, former bushbot, is a hack.

  683. Mr.Vito says:

    You can choose to believe whatever you want… D+12 or D+6 or D+3 with adults. If you are right, you will look good… if not you will look foolish.

    Just like last year…

  684. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    July 16, 2017 at 3:12 pm
    Partisan ID is absolutely a floating variable, which is why you should watch Gallup… it has been on the trend throughout history.

    – But, correct me if I’m wrong, Gallup does not weight it’s polling to the data it finds on partisan affiliation.

  685. Mr.Vito says:

    Gallup does not poll elections anymore.

    Since Gallup has been so on the mark over decades with party affiliation by trend, it assumes its numbers are correct.

    Since they poll tends of thousands of people, they probably do very little weighting at all.

  686. Trump says:

    Phil,

    You should spend 1 post on the poll, and the rest in kicking and mocking the retard Robbie.

    That’s the proper proportion.

  687. Phil says:

    39% approval with registered voters. I have no beef with that. Throwing around adult numbers in their Trump county subsets and citing the decline from actual voting election day numbers to adult polling numbers and citing the exact drop off I have a big problem with and that is what they chose to do.

    Junk.

  688. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    2h

    Replying to @_Trump45_ and 3 others
    And post-Nov voter registration changes ALL in favor of Rs except CA,OR, CO.

    PA, FL, IA, NC, NJ, DE, MD, NM, NH, NV all saw net R gains

  689. Robbie says:

    Unless I’m mistaken, there’s no national election anytime soon so why is a poll of adults wrong when measuring how a president is doing at the job?

    ABC didn’t take this poll to measure who may win the 2018 election. They took it to measure the country’s views on Trump’s presidency so far.

    If this was July 2018 and the focus was trying to determine who has the edge in the upcoming Congressional elections, then a poll of RV’s would be appropriate. Here ABC is simply trying to learnt he impressions of Americans, not gauge an election.

  690. Tina says:

    Colorado is disappointing,

  691. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 16, 2017 at 3:18 pm
    39% approval with registered voters. I have no beef with that. Throwing around adult numbers in their Trump county subsets and citing the decline from actual voting election day numbers to adult polling numbers and citing the exact drop off I have a big problem with and that is what they chose to do.

    – But they’re not attempting gauge the outcome of an election. They’re trying to find out how Americans in those areas feel about the job Trump is doing.

    If this poll had been conducted to determine how voters may treat Republicans and Democrats in this area in an election, then RV and LV would be appropriate.

  692. Mr.Vito says:

    ABCs poll is what it says it is.

    A poll of how adults approve of the president with the sample they took, which was D+12.

    Election night was what it said it was.

    A poll of who definite voters wanted to be president between two highly unfavorable people in a D+3 electorate.

    Direct comparison is pseudoscience. Here’s an idea… did WaPo measure Trumps favorability? Because that can actually be compared to Election Day..

    I bet not.

  693. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    July 16, 2017 at 3:15 pm
    You can choose to believe whatever you want… D+12 or D+6 or D+3 with adults. If you are right, you will look good… if not you will look foolish.

    Just like last year…

    – We’re back to the issue that got debated here in 2012, though. Then, all the polls, regardless of methodology and partisan breakdown, came to the same basic result. And now in 2016, all of the polls, regardless of methodology and partisan breakdown, have come to the same basic viewpoint. when it comes to Trump’s approval rating (high 30’s to around 40%).

    I’m more interested in the overall result and whether it’s in line with other contemporary data. If a top line result isn’t in line with other contemporary data, then I look to see if it’s “guts” are screwy.

  694. Mr.Vito says:

    Nate Silver has already documented that poll herding and agenda driven polling has made lines of contemporary data suspect.

  695. Mr.Vito says:

    Actual data from voters showed Clinton and Trump were neck and neck in October, Trump won October handily, and Trump edged Clinton in the final week.

  696. Mr.Vito says:

    By the way… Actual data from Gallup party affiliation over that entire period is in line with a D+3 electorate.

  697. Mr.Vito says:

    Which is why I came back declaring the race wasn’t over, and Trump could still win…

  698. Mr.Vito says:

    Also, the data I’ve seen shows that the electorate will be casting the lions share of blame on GOP party leadership if things stall, not Trump.

    Trump is not generally associated with “being a Republican” anyway… so the GOP should strongly consider whether any possible losses in party affiliation is falling squarely on them, and their inability to come together.

    For example, it is becoming plain to anyone that nothing going on with Trump is preventing the GOP from passing Obamacare repeal… it is their interparty squabbling.

  699. Mr.Vito says:

    *intraparty

    Though sometimes I wonder…

  700. Jonesy says:

    Here we have a dem +12 that has only 23% republicans in it.

    Why even discuss this garbage after their dismal 2016 polling?

  701. Jonesy says:

    GOP controls D.C and most governorships, not only 23% sampled in polling?

    Even bonehead Robbie cannot spin that

  702. lisab says:

    did WaPo measure Trumps favorability? Because that can actually be compared to Election Day..
    ——————————————

    you can, but again, it would not be a perfect sample measure, especially for trump

    “is trump favorable to you?” would be answered “no” by bitterlaw for example, but he would almost certainly vote for trump over warren for example

  703. Mr.Vito says:

    “is trump favorable to you?” would be answered “no” by bitterlaw for example, but he would almost certainly vote for trump over warren for example

    I don’t mean it to measure anything… just that it can actually be compared to the same question on Election Day. If it is the same or higher with adults, it would be safe to say he hasn’t ticked off anyone who wasn’t already.

  704. Jonesy says:

    730. Good point lisa

  705. lisab says:

    Chile: 280,000 lose power in first Santiago snowfall for 20 years
    ——————-

    is this the russians or global climate change?

  706. jason says:

    Wobbie finally found a poll he loves.

    If it showed Trump at 42% he would have trashed it.

    He only believes in polls that fit the MSM narrative.

  707. lisab says:

    cbo report, 53 million will lose coverage under the new republican bill

  708. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    733. “Chile: 280,000 lose power in first Santiago snowfall for 20 years. is this the russians or global climate change?

    Your behind the times. The new rage is that we are entering a period of global cooling because of the sun. That is why the northern hemisphere had one of the coldest six months ever, the Greenland ice sheet is growing, and climate scientists now predict more rain in California in the future.

    http://principia-scientific.org/norwegian-scientist-global-cooling-beginning-due-low-solar-activity/

    A lot of the scientists who predicted global cooling back in the 1980s changed their view to believe in global warming in the last couple of decades, so they should be able to switch back to preaching global cooling with no problem.

  709. PresidentPaul! says:

    Over 400,000 flee Puerto Rico with no end in sight to come vote for Hillary in Florida after they bankrupted their own country with Marxism and now want it here in the States instead (bigger country hasn’t run out of money yet)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/16/us/puerto-rico-lares.html

  710. PresidentPaul! says:

    We need to be getting rid of States particularly California not adding new ones.

    #NeverStatehood

  711. PresidentPaul! says:

    French president Macron condemns Israeli Colonialism

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500251884852.jpg

  712. PresidentPaul! says:

    Refugee program creating all kinds of new jobs

    http://silenceisconsent.net/muslim-migrants-rape-girl/


    In Twin Falls, Idaho, three Muslim refugees lured a 5-year-old girl into a laundry room, stripped her of her clothing, urinated on her, and raped her. What’s worse, too, is that they filmed the entire thing, gleefully mocking the crying girl as they raped her.

    Judge Thomas Borreson, the judge presiding over Idaho’s 5th Judicial District, not only let the rapists off completely Scott free, but he also issued a gag order preventing anyone from saying bad things about the Muslim rapists.

    The judge made this decision in spite of the fact that the Muslim “refugees,” pleaded guilty to urinating on, orally raping, and anally raping, this 5 year old girl. This is absolutely disgusting, and these men should be thrown in prison for life—apparently, however, that’s Islamophobic.

    In addition to this, the victim’s lawyer is facing contempt charges due to a benign comment he made to the Idaho Statesman about the little girl’s parents, and how they’re extremely distraught over the verdict.”

  713. Jonesy says:

    NBC/WSJ

    Trump over 50% in counties that elected him president

    So with usual Msm bias, trump is really at 60%

  714. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    740. What you just published is a bunch of total inflammatory lies.

    Here is the truth from the Idaho Statesman newspaper:

    “Three boys involved in a June assault on a 5-year-old girl at the Fawnbrook Apartments in Twin Falls pleaded guilty Tuesday to felonies.
    The victim’s family and their lawyer approved the settlements reached in each of the three cases, Twin Falls County Prosecutor Grant Loebs said in a statement.

    “I am pleased that we were able to resolve this case in a way that was approved and agreed to by the victim’s family,” Loebs said. “This continues to be a serious and sad case, but it was resolved properly.””

    All those involved were juvenile, as so the case was sealed as is done in ALL juvenile cases in Idaho.

    “The incident touched off months of turmoil in Twin Falls after the story was spun into a fake news account that exaggerated or flat-out falsified many of the details, including that a knife was present, the attack was perpetrated by a Syrian gang of adult men, that a rape had occurred and that the attack was celebrated by the perpetrators’ families as city officials orchestrated a cover-up.

    In fact, police and prosecutors said, there was no rape, no knife was present, and the incident involved young boys. Officials characterized the incident as a sexual assault and say each say each agency involved followed proper protocol.”

    The boys were charged not long after the June 2 incident, and later that month their families were evicted from the apartment complex.”

    http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/state/article142759434.html

  715. Bitterlaw says:

    Jonesy – So if Trump is over 50% in a county with 50,000 people and under 50% in a county like Philadelphia with 1.5 million people, he is really at 60%? Damn. That is some serious reweighting.

  716. Bitterlaw says:

    Bunu lying about Muslims now? I did not expect to see that. I hope Hamas and ISIS can still count on his support.

  717. MichiganGuy says:

    Missouri Senate Fabrizio, Lee & Associates

    Hawley 46%
    McCaskill 42%

    http://www.clubforgrowth.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/7-13-17-CFG-MO-Senate-Memo.pdf

  718. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #743- Bitter
    The volume of smallish Counties compile enough votes to offset major Metro areas.
    In my State of NC, the Tri-City area and Charlotte are swamped by other Counties, especially in rural areas.
    Do you agree?

  719. Jonesy says:

    Exactly thank you Sheeple.

  720. Jonesy says:

    Bitter, you have to admit how outrageous the Abc Poll was yesterday. Only 22% Republican sample?

  721. Trump says:

    743 is a prime example of a math-challenged ignorant fool.

    Trump won 2623 counties, Clinton won 489.

    So if Trump is over 50% in 2623 counties with 50,000 and under 50% in counties over 50,000, he could easily be 60% overall.

    I know, math is hard for the moron.

    As is English. Still can’t figure out tax vs penalty.

  722. NYCmike says:

    Robbie says:
    July 15, 2017 at 11:11 am

    If Tina had spent 6 years being tortured by the North Vietnamese as McCain did, the world would have known her as Hanoi Tina because she would have broken. McCain didn’t.

    -I need to verify, but I am pretty sure McCain admits in his book to giving some information at one point.

    I am pretty sure he would NOT go on television to denounce the United States to get better treatment.

    Of course, none of his honorable service has anything to do with his performance as an United States Senator.

    Should we refrain from criticizing someone like Charlie Rangel simply because they served in the military?

  723. NYCmike says:

    SoHope says:
    July 14, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    Not a fan of Pence but he is the best part of the Trump Admin.

    I don’t see how Trump has any chance of a 2020 victory. Him stepping aside and Pence (keeping the Trump loving yahoos on board) running may be the only path. I don’t know if an outsider like Rubio/Cruz/Cotton/etc could take the nomition and win.

    -Pence is doing a fine job, as far as I can tell. I don’t see why Trump can’t win in 2020, as long as the economy stays semi-strong, and if he keeps picking conservative Supreme Court Justices.

  724. NYCmike says:

    In other news, it is much more enjoyable living on the A.T.

    Lot less B*llsh*t to deal with…….

    Cheers.

  725. Tina says:

    Look ny, he is a war hero and a terrible senator.

    With that said, i hope he recovers. It sounds like it may be more serious than first reported.

  726. gameboy says:

    #752

    So long as the Dems & Media keep harping on the Russian nonsense, Nancy Pelosi remains the face of their party, and the economy is doing a little better than just OK Trumpy shouldn’t have any issues getting a second term.

  727. Bitterlaw says:

    As is English. Still can’t figure out tax vs penalty.

    Zzzzzzzz. Trump still blames me for a Decision that I did not write and have said repeatedly that I did not agree with it.

    As for the poll, have fun reweighting it. It is the Hedgehog Way. I really try to avoid discussing Trump with people these days. He is not popular where I live.

  728. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump won 2623 counties, Clinton won 489.

    Zzzzzzzz. She also won the popular vote so she would start with a bigger base in an opinion poll.

  729. NYCmike says:

    ” He is not popular where I live.”

    -What are the reasons for that?

    What has he done that has changed anybody’s lives?

  730. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – He is unpopular with many people I know because he is a scumbag in his treatment of women. His twitter battles with minor personalities are an embarrassment to the office he holds. The Russia stories are viewed on a scale from stupid to dangerous. Those are the reasons that I have heard.

  731. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    So, other than the Russia stories, which are less-than-believable, or not worthy as news, he is the same person he was before he was elected President.

    I am wondering why these people were expecting him to be different.

  732. Tina says:

    The muh russian stories are for the loon conspiracy bots

  733. Tina says:

    Russian Collussion

    President Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.”

    President Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…”

    President Obama: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”

    President Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you.”

  734. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You asked me why they don’t like him. I told you the reasons that they have expressed.

  735. Bitterlaw says:

    I am wondering why these people were expecting him to be different.

    Maybe they thought that he would be Presidential when he became President. The twitter fights are an embarrassment.

  736. Robbie says:

    So Trump and his gang that can’t shoot straight political team are actively looking for a primary challenger for Jeff Flake. Talk about stupid.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/17/white-house-squeezes-jeff-flake-240613

  737. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    Were you on vacation?

  738. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 17, 2017 at 10:30 am
    I am wondering why these people were expecting him to be different.
    Maybe they thought that he would be Presidential when he became President. The twitter fights are an embarrassment.

    – I’ll admit I was naïve. I thought Trump would try and tone down his act once he became president. I figured the thing he would value most was a high approval rating and he’d try and do things that would ensure that. Instead, he’s been the same old person who feels obligated to litigate every slight, real or perceived, made against him.

  739. Cash Cow TM says:

    I am sick of this Russian stu.ff.
    #################################
    So…

    …to improve comprehension of my HHR compatriots and compadres I feel compelled to compile and compose a comprehensive–yet compact–computerized composition about it.

    It will be a complete and compassionate compendium dealing with the incomprehensible complexity of the comparative competence and compulsions of DJT, and the compound complaints of incompetence and the complacent and compliant complicity of the DJT people’s compulsive compulsion and mis-comportment of DJT peeps with the former commie Rooshans compromising DJT’s complete administration.

    I seek no compensation…nor complaints.

    If you disagree with my upcoming composition, then compost it.

  740. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 16, 2017 at 5:12 pm
    Wobbie finally found a poll he loves.
    If it showed Trump at 42% he would have trashed it.
    He only believes in polls that fit the MSM narrative.

    – Your incessant need to lie is really something, but that’s what Trumpism does to a person.

  741. Tina says:

    This is the worst congress in decades.

    Mitchie and tyan keep,shooting blanks.

  742. Tina says:

    Theynare going tomend up with ni tax cuts, no obama care repeal, and a cr.

    Doing nothi on obamacare is likely the rit decision, but theynget their formthe wrong reasons.

  743. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    YES. 1 week hiking on the A.T with some of our scouts.

  744. Cash Cow TM says:

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    “The U.S. Constitution clearly forbids any U.S. citizen from being in the same room (possible even the same building) as any Rooshan person.”*
    _________________________________
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    Cow.Research.com

  745. NYCmike says:

    “Maybe they thought that he would be Presidential when he became President. The twitter fights are an embarrassment.”

    -I guess watching Trump operate for the last 40 years in NY has given me a clearer perspective of the person that he is.

    I underestimated his ability to connect and win the Presidency, for sure, until the very end.

  746. NYCmike says:

    7 7 7 ! !

  747. Tina says:

    Twitter is necessary, bl. The media is 98 percent against him, aside from a couple shows on faux and fox biz.

    Faux is cnn lite, lots of fake rs aka bush bits.

  748. Tina says:

    The ra in congress will be blamed for doing nothing.

    They have some time to turn it around nut when your leaders are sheot, well….

  749. NYCmike says:

    “aka bush bits.”

    -Stick with bacon bits, they taste a lot better, and remain fresh on hiking trails.

    “bush bits” get stale, quickly.

  750. Tina says:

    The rs are lucky too, the drats only have muh russian and other conspiracy theories. If they get a message, like in 2006, we are phuqed.

  751. Tina says:

    Muh Russian is nit a message. They can keep,their conspiracy theory and shove it where the sun do not shine..

  752. Cash Cow TM says:

    It is a diorama of diabolical and despicable dysfunction that will lead to a diaspora…

  753. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – I don’t care if Trump uses twitter to be clear on his positions and policies. Fighting over cosmetic surgery with people with almost no audience is a waste of time and diminishes him.

  754. Tina says:

    I agree there bl and said so. Mika joe were not nice but not wise tomuse twitter for those purposes.

    Muh russian is still muh russian. It is an excuse for jebots to explain hillarys loss

  755. Tina says:

    I am enjoying the low gasoline prices in my hood.. under obumbler, each summer upoer threes to low fours. Now uoper $2s.

  756. Jonesy says:

    Utah Robbie is like a rash.

  757. Cash Cow TM says:

    a lame male meal…

  758. NYCmike says:

    “a lame male meal…”

    -You better pick the blue pill…..

  759. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2017 at 10:40 am
    Robbie,
    YES. 1 week hiking on the A.T with some of our scouts.

    – Nice!

  760. Barrett says:

    Definitely agree with #785. Beneath the office of the president.

  761. NYCmike says:

    “Beneath the office of the president.”

    -This statement really is off-base, in my humble opinion.

    Nobody will mention Trump’s twitter habits in 50 years, unless they are looking to set forth their own agenda.

    The only thing news-worthy about them is that they allow Trump to change the narrative of the day.

  762. Jonesy says:

    The Office of the President was already weakened in 1998 by Monica Lewinsky.

    This Russia nothing burger is no comparison to that

  763. Jonesy says:

    You had a POTUS committing adultry in the Oval Office, the Throne of the Commander in chief, and then lying about it on TV in front of the American People. Perjured himself in front of a grand Jury and lost his Law License to boot.

    then started a war in the Balkans to distract it.

    No big deal though. Right Bitter, Barrett

  764. Human Question says:

    Why nothingburger? Why not nothingsausage?

  765. Carlos Danger says:

    Nothingweiner

  766. Diamond Jim says:

    DCCC

  767. Bitterlaw says:

    No big deal though. Right Bitter, Barrett

    Are you 5 years old? Waaahhh. You can’t punish me stealing cookies because Mary painted the cat pink. Waaaahhh.

    I have never anything to excuse Bill Clinton’s behavior. He was a scumbag in office (and out of office). Trump demeans the office with these stupid twitter fights. Both can be true.

  768. lisab says:

    “Maybe they thought that he would be Presidential when he became President.”

    if you know history, you know trump acts way more presidential and treats women far better than at least half of the presidents since 1900.

    their have been a few “good men” where women are concerned since ww2, e.g. truman, ford, carter, reagan, bush 1 & 2, and obama.

    of those … carter, bush 1 & 2 and obama and reagan some would argue were not very presidential because of what they did in office … obama and reagan hated by the opposite party of course.

    so pretty much the only presidents in the last 70 years that can be said to be very presidential based on their treatment of people are truman and ford.

  769. Cash Cow TM says:

    So why did Mary paint the cat pink?

  770. Robbie says:

    DCCCV

  771. messy says:

    802. Both Truman (1952) and Ford (1976) lost their bids for another term.

  772. Phil says:

    Truman ran in 1952?

    I didn’t know that and I am old history teacher.

    Learn something new every day.

  773. messy says:

    756. No, it was Linda Tripp, a radical Republican mole, who was trying to destroy the Democratic party.

  774. Bitterlaw says:

    Truman ran in 1952?

    Sure. If the recession of 1949 hurt him in 1948 what does time really matter?

  775. Wes says:

    Phil, Truman privately indicated a desire to retire in late 1951. However, in light of the failure of his preferred candidate to run, Truman let his name appear on the first few primary ballots. After an early defeat–in Nedw Hampshire, I believe–Truman officially announced his intention to retire and ultimately backed Hillary Clinton’s–I mean, Adlai Stevenson’s–unsuccessful bid for the White House.

  776. Wes says:

    For anyone looking to get into politics and successfully work crowds to build connections with potential supporters and donors, Vanessa van Edwards in her new book, Captivate, details how Truman successfully worked the room at the 1944 DNC to outmaneuver Henry Wallace and secure the Vice-Presidential nomination. It’s a fascinating bit of reading on how to network and win people over in politics anyone interested in winning a nomination for office should read.

  777. Cash Cow TM says:

    At DMV for past hour with Walt. He needs to renew his drivers license. 60 some people in front of him …40 some behind him…been here an hour and 20 minutes…

  778. Cash Cow TM says:

    He brought enough paperwork to choke a horse.

  779. mnw says:

    MO Senate:

    GOP Rep. Vicky Hartzler out. She beat former Armed Services Committee Chairman Rep. Ike Skelton (D-MO).

    She would’ve been a great GOP nominee against McC, although Hawley might be even better.

  780. Cash Cow TM says:

    God newa, bad newa.

    Walt had to pay extra $10 for some federal fee–maybe
    to drive on federal roads..?

    But the good news is he no longer has to to pay the charge to drive on any roads of the Roman Empire…nor ant aancient Inco highway.

  781. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have never been in a room with that many very unhappy people.

    All you have to do is what Walt did.

    Navigate the DMV maze and get rewarded with a piece vof cheese.

  782. NYCmike says:

    The conversion from stone tablet license to a laminated card will help you out immensely when transporting Walt to and fro, Ca$h.

  783. Barrett says:

    Look at Ann Coulter trying to be a little snowflake about some seating confusion on Delta.

    Fake News Flash Ann – all those seats on the plane still get you to the same destination.

  784. NYCmike says:

    Barrett,

    Do you have a link?

    The story I heard was that she paid for additional room, yet did NOT get what she paid for.

    How is she being a snowflake about it?

  785. messy says:

    809. Truman won six delegates who voted for him on the first two ballots at the ’52 convention.

  786. Wes says:

    Unlike Roosevelt in 1940–who used the Mayor of Chicago as a proxy to get behind his bid for a third term–Truman was no longer an active candidate gor renomination by the time of the 1952 DNC, Messy.

  787. Cash Cow TM says:

    I chastised Walt after we left the DMV got to the car.

    While waiting forever for his number to be called, Walt would sgtrike up conversations with young and middle aged drivers around him.

    He said “I pity you all fools. For the rest of your life, EVERY 5 years, you have to come and go through this torture. As for me, this might be the last time I have to do this crap!”

    And then he would throw his head back and give a loud and diabolical laugh.

    I told him he should not have done that.
    he should follow Mrs. Walt’s advice…’think it in your mind, but don’t say it…’

  788. Robbie says:

    Barrett says:
    July 17, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    Look at Ann Coulter trying to be a little snowflake about some seating confusion on Delta.
    Fake News Flash Ann – all those seats on the plane still get you to the same destination.

    – Delta might become America’s most popular airline if they decide to ban her for life.

  789. Waingro says:

    Trump thinking of backing a primary opponent to Jeff Flake? I’m fine with this.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/17/report-white-house-sounding-possible-primary-challengers-jeff-flake/

  790. Waingro says:

    #823, Coulter might single-handedly start the inevitable backlash against the backlash of airlines that has been going on for the last few years or so.

    Great job, Ann!

  791. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 17, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    Trump thinking of backing a primary opponent to Jeff Flake? I’m fine with this.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/17/report-white-house-sounding-possible-primary-challengers-jeff-flake/

    – I’m not. Stupid, Stupid, stupid by the Trump team. Now, Trump has gone after the two most vulnerable Senators in 2018. If he helps defeat Flake in the primary, the more conservative choice would be in a dogfight in the general as a top Democrat would likely run.

    If 2018 becomes a dumpster fire for Republicans (a possibility), both Flake and Heller could lose. And if Republicans manage to squander the other Senate races, a 50-50 tie COULD happen. I’m not predicting that, but why in the world would Trump, unless he’s the pettiest person in the country, want to hurt the party he may need to help his presidency survive?

  792. Bitterlaw says:

    I am going to defer to Wes to answer this question. I can’t recall a President of either party backing a primary challenger to an incumbent in his party. Of course, Trump is not really a Republican so he probably makes his own rules.

  793. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 17, 2017 at 4:46 pm
    I am going to defer to Wes to answer this question. I can’t recall a President of either party backing a primary challenger to an incumbent in his party. Of course, Trump is not really a Republican so he probably makes his own rules.

    – In 2002, I don’t think GWB’s team shed a tear when Sununu beat Bob Smith in the NH primary. I don’t remember any primary endorsement though.

  794. NYCmike says:

    After looking up story about Coulter, it seems like she paid for something, did not receive what she paid for, complained about it, got reimbursed for but never received explanation, and is now being taken to task for complaining.

    Not sure why Barrett would side with any company that does not give a consumer what they paid for instead of siding with the consumer.

  795. Wes says:

    Bitter, GWB actually helped Bill Frist arrange John Sununu’s challenge to Bob Smith in 2002.

    Regarding what Trump is doing vis a vis Flake, I actually wonder if Flake might not benefit from having his vote split between a reasonable challenger and Chemtrail Kelly.

  796. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, Wes. That is why I deferred to you.

    I remember GWB and Rick Santorum both making robocalls for Arlen Specter when he was challenged by Pat Toomey in the GOP primary. At that time, Toomey was running as a social conservative firebrand with a primary focus on opposing abortion. He would have lost the General Election. Toomey changed his focus to economic issues in his next run and won.

  797. Jonesy says:

    Wes, tough call on Flake. He did spend most of the Summer and Fall of 2016 saying on CNN and FOX that Trump would lose in a landslide.

    Flake would not endorse the GOP Nominee for POTUS.
    Why should Trump show him respect?

  798. Jonesy says:

    I agree with Bitterlaw. I always refer to Wes on Senate Races. He was brilliant in 2014

  799. Jonesy says:

    806. Ford was never elected Messy.

    Only recent POTUS after one term were Carter and Bush 1.

    Ford did pretty well to get 240 EV’s in 1976, after Watergate

  800. Jonesy says:

    Wes, sitting Dem Senator Alan Dixon was pushed out in the 1992 Primary by Moseley Braun

  801. NYCmike says:

    “He was brilliant in 2014”

    -The records of the posters who predicted said otherwise, didn’t they?

  802. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 17, 2017 at 5:14 pm
    Wes, tough call on Flake. He did spend most of the Summer and Fall of 2016 saying on CNN and FOX that Trump would lose in a landslide.
    Flake would not endorse the GOP Nominee for POTUS.
    Why should Trump show him respect?

    – Because on his current trajectory, Trump is going to need as many Republican Senators as possible if he has any hope of enacting an agenda or, potentially, saving his presidency.

  803. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 17, 2017 at 5:16 pm
    I agree with Bitterlaw. I always refer to Wes on Senate Races. He was brilliant in 2014

    – You weren’t even around in 2014. You just started posting here in late May.

  804. I love Donald Trump says:

    Why should we support Flake? He’s a fake and a liar. He should run as a democrat.

  805. Jonesy says:

    838. You have a lot of time on your hands, Utah Robbie.

    Go make some more Hillary maps at 270towin

  806. Waingro says:

    “Regarding what Trump is doing vis a vis Flake, I actually wonder if Flake might not benefit from having his vote split between a reasonable challenger and Chemtrail Kelly.”

    Allahpundit actually makes that counter point in his piece above. A crowded field with Ward staying in would probably help Flake.

  807. Jonesy says:

    Even Carville says the Dems will never take the Senate in 2018

  808. lisab says:

    At DMV for past hour with Walt. He needs to renew his drivers license. 60 some people in front of him …40 some behind him…been here an hour and 20 minutes…
    ————————————–

    some dmvs allow you to call beforehad to schedule an appointment

    you skip the line

  809. Tina says:

    Jonesy, we could be in worse trouble if the drats had an agenda. But it is muh russian 24/7.

  810. Jonesy says:

    836. Mike, Wes was the only one here who predicted Tillis would win in North Carolina

  811. Jonesy says:

    Agree Tina.

  812. Tina says:

    I am not sure why ann the hookah, would complain about it, yes she is right, but handle your business accordinly, ny

  813. Tina says:

    No support for fraud flake. Let him wither on the vine.

  814. Tina says:

    The story sounds fake about flake. It is my oersonal decision nit to,contribute to him.

  815. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Susan rice not testifying tuesday.

    Subpoena the beotch now.

  816. CG says:

    I have to intervene, just for a moment, to say that I had every Senate race right in 2014, and certainly predicted the Tillis win, and even got the margin correct, in the HHR tie-breaker. You can look it up.

    As for “Jonesy”, he has indeed posted here for years as Jason T. and then JT, and then some other J name.

    Carry on.

  817. Waingro says:

    #852, LOL, Tina!

  818. Jonesy says:

    853. Say what? Who the F are you?

    Oh that’s right. You are discredited Corey, who said the GOP would the lose the Senate and House, and then went into hiding.

    Why are you using a different handle ?

  819. Jonesy says:

    853. You got every race wrong in 2016, Corey.

    Still have your trump voodoo doll?

  820. Tina says:

    Hi corey, how is your blog? Do you miss me?

  821. CG says:

    Actually, my House and Senate record in terms of 2016 predictions were stellar. I definitely did not predict Republicans would lose there. Again, you can look it up. I have offered predictions for every single race for House, Senate, and Governor going back to 2006.

    I will plan to continue doing the same.

  822. Jonesy says:

    Heard you had a real meltdown on election night, Corey.

    Too bad I missed it. Did MD console you?

  823. Jonesy says:

    858. Delusional

  824. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Republican special election primary in Utah on August 15 will be between a candidate who supported Trump, and one who did not. Will Trump get involved?

  825. Tina says:

    Corey, did the russians cause her thighness to lose.

  826. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump?, twitter

    “Most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one Don jr attended in order to get info on an opponent. That’s politics!”

    Actually, most politicians would send a lackey to the meeting, whose name they don’t know. The candidate’s son attending is dumb.

    More dumb, is son subsequently making statements that are of questionable truth about the meeting, which can cause embarrassment.

    There is a reason campaigns hire experienced pros who know how to handle these types of issues.

  827. Wes says:

    Jonesy, Il Mikey forgets I was among the first to predict Republicans would have a wave and recapture the Senate in 2014. I was not alone in that assessment, however, as DW–one of HHR’s best posters and a man for whom I have tremendous respect–used a different methodology from mine to reach the identical conclusion to what I had reached. We both predicted Republicans would go +9 and called every race correctly in our predictions.

    I did prematurely say I was wrong about the NC Senate race on Election Night because of early returns, but all my predictions had been that Tillis would win.

  828. Tina says:

    Republicans have pushed to bring Power and Rice before their committee in a bid to learn whether they improperly “unmasked” — or revealed the identities typically blacked out in intelligence reports — of Trump associates. But Democrats have scoffed at the GOP push, a sign of the partisan strife that still exists over the direction of the committee’s probe into alleged Russia’s interference in the US elections

    I know this is cnn, but it sounds like the drats actually run the hearings. Two R witnesses were to,d that they cannot yet testify., including Roger Stone.

  829. Bitterlaw says:

    Welcome back, Corey.

  830. J. Cutler says:

    Hi Corey!!!

  831. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey stayed longer than MD. Like most of us, Corey completely blew the Presidential prediction. Of course, his arrogant and condescending claims of moral superiority was not endearing.

    Stop lurking and get back in the fight, Corey.

  832. Tina says:

    Corey, does cg, stand for clinton groupie?

    Am I still Russian?

  833. Jay Cutler says:

    J. Cutler is a fake.

  834. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m still mad. Corey said I was a sellout for voting for Trump. More than 8 months later I have not been paid by anybody.

  835. NYCmike says:

    “some dmvs allow you to call beforehad to schedule an appointment”

    -NYC DMV has been great, besides the insane fees they keep raising. You are able to make an appointment online.

  836. NYCmike says:

    “836. Mike, Wes was the only one here who predicted Tillis would win in North Carolina”

    -Jonesy,

    Using the analysis and information mainly provided by Wes, and he had a lot of it, I myself predicted Tillis would win, and was very confident of his victory, and despite early exit polls, which influenced several posters**cough cough Wes, MD** to start gnawing on their panties, I remained consistent in preaching patience throughout the night.

    Wes definitely provides plenty of information, and he will tell us that himself.

    But, his chutzpah gets the best of him sometimes, imho.

    Cheers.

  837. NYCmike says:

    “CG”, aka Corey, had a stellar record in 2014, and always makes predictions on his website, as he said.

    He is also a sanctimonious, pusillanimous punk, and except for the likes of people like MD, Author, and Cory, would be considered the biggest coward for disappearing the last 7 months.

  838. NYCmike says:

    “He is also a sanctimonious, pusillanimous punk,”

    -Punk was the wrong word to use there…….my feelings are not that strong about him.

    The 2 other words describing him are simply fact, so I will not ask for them to be stricken from the record.

  839. Mr.Vito says:

    Lee and Moran announced on Levin that they will vote against motions to proceed on the healthcare plan.

  840. jason says:

    I always predicted Tillis would win.

    Even when some people wrote him off here on election night.

    GFYs.

  841. PresidentPaul! says:

    GOP Sens. Jerry Moran (Kansas) and Mike Lee (Utah) announced on Monday night they will not support taking up a bill repealing and replacing ObamaCare, effectively blocking the legislation.

    “This closed-door process has yielded the [bill], which fails to repeal the Affordable Care Act or address healthcare’s rising costs. For the same reasons I could not support the previous version of this bill, I cannot support this one,” Moran said in a statement.

    Lee added on Twitter that “my colleague @JerryMoran and I will not support the MTP to this version of BCRA.”

    The move leaves Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) without enough support to take up the bill. He can only afford to lose three GOP senators and Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Rand Paul (Ky.) are already expected to vote no .

  842. jason says:

    And wes is correct, except for some butterflies on election night, he also did predict Tillis would win.

  843. PresidentPaul! says:

    Shiloh 11 year old transgender child of Angelina and Brad Pitt will soon begin hormone treatment.

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500336944243.jpg

  844. PresidentPaul! says:

    If republicans can’t repeal Obamacare or even get a vote on a full repeal so as to at least target the moderates and trouble makers, how do they plan to do “entitlement reform?”

  845. PresidentPaul! says:

    U.S. Army To Female Soldiers: Be Prepared To Shower With ‘Women With Male Genitalia’

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/18674/us-army-female-soldiers-be-prepared-shower-women-amanda-prestigiacomo

  846. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.adn.com/nation-world/article/fascism-mounts-comeback-italy/2013/02/11/

    The Pope Should Pay More Attention to His Own Backyard
    Thomas DiLorenzo

    Where fascism and Mussolini worship are making a comeback. Instead, he has another fellow Jesuit (a.k.a. communist ideologues dressed and disguised as priests) write a long-winded and ignorant denunciation of American Trump voters while advocating a one-world totalitarian government.

  847. PresidentPaul! says:

    President George S. Patton

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500341866677.png

  848. Robbie says:

    In late March and early April as Trump’s approval rating fell and the House’s first attempt to pass repeal and replace failed, I suggested it was quite possible Neil Gorsuch may be the only substantive achievement of 2017 for Trump. Now that it appears the Senate healthcare bill has collapsed, that view seems closer to becoming a reality.

    Maybe they’ll be able to pass some sort of tax reform, but we’ll see. First, they’ve got to raise the debt limit. That ought to be a painful process. After that, they’ve got to fund the government starting on October 1. And with the Freedom Causcus threatening a government shutdown over the border wall, it’s possible the worst is yet to come.

  849. PresidentPaul! says:

    #886

    GWB only had negative achievements though.

  850. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie-
    Trump would need at least 10,000 f*** up’s but even then he still wouldn’t be able to be Bush’s equal in f***ing up.

  851. Robbie says:

    Out: lower taxes, strong national defense, conservative judges

    In: fights with the fake news, Festivus style airing of the grievances

    Robert Costa?
    @costareports

    Most elected Rs don’t fear primary challenge if they buck repeal. They see base’s ire as grievance/”fake news” focused, not ACA obsessed.

  852. Robbie says:

    The Pauls are 0-150 in Republican presidential primaries.

  853. I love Donald Trump says:

    Mitch McConnell should step aside now. He’s a disgrace.

  854. PresidentPaul! says:

    Idk I’m somewhat partial to McConnell as I was very excited when he was blocking a vote on Garland.

    But I hate Paul Ryan

  855. I love Donald Trump says:

    They can’t pass tax reform without passing their healthcare bill. Really? What a piece of crap McConnell and Ryan are.

  856. Tina says:

    Its a cr now.

    Ruano and mitchie threw in the towel.

    Losahs.

  857. Tina says:

    Breaking susan rice cancels attending hearing on muh russia.

    Blames You Tube.

  858. Tina says:

    Hmm lets see if the rs can do immediate repeal and replace later on.

    In ither words, repeal only for now.

    Yeah right.

  859. Trump says:

    🙂

  860. Cash Cow TM says:

    “some dmvs allow you to call beforehad to schedule an appointment

    you skip the line”
    ______________
    Oh nay, nay lisab.

    In WV you HAVE to appear in PERSON at local DMV EVERY 5 years to get new photo ID DL–and bring with you a wheelbarrow full of document…

  861. PresidentPaul! says:

    Why would you want the insurance bailout to pass?

    It was just a convenient way for the dems to blame the GOP for Obamacare while subsidizing it.

    Was a really bad bill.

  862. Mr.Vito says:

    Chuck Schumer
    @SenSchumer

    This second failure of #Trumpcare is proof positive that the core of this bill is unworkable. #ProtectOurCare

    …………………..

    He realizes the core of the bill is Obamacare, right?

  863. JC says:

    Finally, McConnel is giving up on the hopeless cause of o-care light and is now doing what he should have done since day 1… Repeal and Delay.

    McConnel just released a statement saying that the senate will vote on the full repeal bill that Obama vetoed in 2015. This will almost certainly pass. For one, the GOP senators currently on the fence already voted for it, so they won’t risk being labeled as flip-flippers and invoking garunteed primary challenges. Two, the “delay” part gives them cover to say that repeal is merely the first step to producing a better system. Once it does pass, Ocare will have two years before being terminated, which is plenty of time to replace it with a free market solution.

    This is also garunteed to get some dems onboard, because the only options for them is either to work with the GOP to draft a bill or do nothing as Ocare dies, both of which are perfectly fine with Republicans (meaning the dems have zero leverage).

    Of course, I’ve learned to never ever underestimate the GOP’s stunning ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. So we’ll see.

    If everything pans out though, we can move to Taxes, which will really jump start the economy and probably be Trump’s defining legislative achievement.

  864. Jonesy says:

    thanks Sheeple. Look for claire to retire?

  865. Jonesy says:

    901. Hope you are right. Is the IRS even enforcing that individual mandate anymore?

  866. Jonesy says:

    Is tax reform really what the left is worried about?

    If the corp tax goes down and more US companies move back from overseas, does that guarantee a good economy for Trump in 2018 and 2020?

  867. I love Donald Trump says:

    The GOP will not repeal Obamacare because the fake phony moderates will oppose repealing Obamacare.

  868. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is infuriating. No wonder why the GOP is dead and buried in California. Pete Wilson supports Cap and Trade– pathetic!

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gop-establishment-figures-pete-wilson-1500336889-htmlstory.html

  869. Phil says:

    Good news on Mo senate race. We can get that one. Donnelly very beatable in Indiana as well I believe.

    Tester looks relatively safe in Montana unfortunately. You can’t beat somebody with nobody.

    Heitkamp should be a dead woman walking in ND. Unfortunately, this is the same candidate who won her senate seat in 2012 with Romney at the top of the ticket beating Obama by twenty points. Explain that one.

    Manchin, Casey…..forget it. Michigan? Uh, no.

    Scott is a good candidate in Florida, but Nelson is a favorite there.

    We could pick up two seats if we hold Arizona and Nevada.

    Should be picking up four. Hate leaving Montana and ND on the tube. Going to wish we had those seats in a very tough year 2020.

  870. Bitterlaw says:

    Poor Bunu. He is so desperate to belong to something. First, he claimed that the Tea Party was really a bunch of Paulbots. Now, he supports Trumo even though Trump is not a Paulbot.

  871. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Let me be the first on this thread to call for the immediate resignation of Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson
    A partial list of my grievances is contained in the below article, but add to it:

    1- Tillerson publicly stated that the Palestinian Authority had stopped payments to Palestinian terrorists who had murdered Israeli civilians. The next day, the Palestinian Authority said that it had NOT agreed to the aforementioned.
    2- Last night, Tillerson’s State Department undermined Attorney General Sessions by agreeing to the expansive definition of a “bonafide relationship” in the travel ban as stated by a rogue Hawaiian Judge. This comes a few days after the Dept. of Justice filed an appeal with the Supreme court.
    3- The State Dept. continues to be a sieve for leaks.

    Tillerson will not “drain the swamp” in DC. Rather, he has become a Swamp Creature! Also, he is incompetent and a liar.

    Tillerson Is Sabotaging Trump’s Foreign Policy. He Needs To Go Now

  872. Phil says:

    Was never impressed with Tillerson. Never understood what Trump saw in him in the first place.

  873. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #909 Phil
    You are way too pessimistic on the 2018 Senate races.
    Tester(D-MT) is far from safe. He voted against Gorsuch and,in 2016, was put in charge of recruiting (Liberal) Democrats to run in Senate races.
    Heitkamp(D-ND) is in trouble once her voting record is exposed. She supported Harry Reid’s nuclear option and voted his way 90% of the time.
    I would not foreclose on the GOP winningthe others you mentioned plus IN. Also, there could be some surprise Dem. retirements in States such as Maine.

    Lastly, I believe that 2018 could be an anti- incumbency election.

  874. Jonesy says:

    Phil, you forgot about Mandel in Ohio

  875. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Does anyone know about this potential GOP candidate for the Montana Senate in 2018? He has the right look and a good CV.

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/gop-waiting-rosendale-montana-senate-race

  876. NYCmike says:

    “Instead of making John Rawls’ theory of justice—i.e., helping the least advantaged—the purpose of government, they should return to the American Founders’ idea that government should secure the rights of everyone to enjoy their lives and liberty and to pursue happiness.”

  877. NYCmike says:

    http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/07/922897-senate-democrats-losing-minds-thought-senator-kid-rock/

    -Any options which expand the map that Democrats have to protect makes it easier to win the seats in red states that they should win.

    Go For It, Kid Rock!

  878. NYCmike says:

    http://thehill.com/latino/342364-border-patrol-union-boss-drop-in-apprehensions-nothing-short-of-miraculous

    -Some self proclaimed “very smart people” kept telling me that ENFORCING CURRENT LAW would not work…….

  879. PresidentPaul! says:

    #910
    Except I was an early Trump supporter here. I noticed that once Jeb-Rubio-Kasich supporters began to get frustrated most of the Trump supporters were banned until after the election.

  880. MichiganGuy says:

    America’s Most and Least Popular Governors — July 2017

    https://morningconsult.com/governor-approval-ratings-july-2017/

  881. MichiganGuy says:

    Republican Governors Thrive in Blue States, Polling Shows

    https://morningconsult.com/2017/07/18/republican-governors-thrive-blue-states-polling-shows/

  882. Robbie says:

    The Senate will apparently move to a “clean repeal” of Obamacare now. It sounds good, except it’s a mirage.

    Under reconciliation, the bill would only remove the funding of Obamacare. The structure and regulations of Obamacare would remain.

  883. NYCmike says:

    “The structure and regulations of Obamacare would remain.”

    -Can you explain how this happens?

  884. Robbie says:

    In light of the recent troubles of Trump and now the Republican Congress, I’m reminded of a quote from Ramsay Bolton before his battle with Jon Snow.

    “If you think this is going to end well, you haven’t been paying attention.”

  885. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 18, 2017 at 9:33 am
    “The structure and regulations of Obamacare would remain.”
    -Can you explain how this happens?

    – The law remains, but the funding would disappear. Reconciliation only allows for those things that are budgetary. It would effectively be a “shell”.

    In the two year window of defunding, the Congress would then work to make the bill that collapsed last night better. Good luck with that.

  886. MichiganGuy says:

    Serial child molester former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert has left the federal prison in Minnesota where he has spent the last 13 months.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/dennis-hastert-out-of-minnesota-prison-bop-records-show/

    Should of been given a life sentence!

  887. Robbie says:

    One thing I’ve written here repeatedly is big pieces of legislation like healthcare require presidential leadership and the bully pulpit to sell it. For a variety of reasons, Trump hasn’t been able to provide that. He doesn’t understand the intricacies of healthcare and his attention has been on the Russia investigation. He hasn’t been able to fill the role of dispute settler on the contentious issues.

  888. Hugh says:

    873. I believe that I did as well. Perhaps someone can check archives

  889. Robbie says:

    Good news about Hawley. I’m glad he didn’t go Hamlet on us and drag this out too long.

    Montana remains the real pisser to me. Trump never should have picked Zinke for Interior. It threw a monkey wrench into everything.

  890. Bitterlaw says:

    I think that people who molest children should get the death penalty.

  891. NYCmike says:

    “Trump never should have picked Zinke for Interior.”

    -Did it ever cross your mind that the person told Trump he has ZERO interest in the Senate, but that he would love a Cabinet-level position?

  892. Cash Cow TM says:

    About Cap and Trade…

    I am for Trade, but opposed to Cap.
    ###################################

    Secondly,

    From DRUDGE:

    “San Fran schools ban chocolate milk…”
    ________________
    Gonna put a LOT of Black Cows on the unemployment line.

  893. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 18, 2017 at 9:54 am
    “Trump never should have picked Zinke for Interior.”
    -Did it ever cross your mind that the person told Trump he has ZERO interest in the Senate, but that he would love a Cabinet-level position?

    – If he had zero interest in the Senate, why did he meet with McConnell in Summer 2016 about the race and then begin the process of looking for a campaign manager, a pollster, and an ad firm to make his commercials for a race against Tester?

    Sure, he could have said no to Trump, but he left the party in a lurch. Who has more power? A senator or the Interior Secretary?

  894. Bitterlaw says:

    Who has more power? A senator or the Interior Secretary?

    That depends on what you want to do. If you want to pass laws, be a Senator. If you want to run the Department of the Interior, be the Secretary.

  895. Robbie says:

    Here’s one area where I have clearly been wrong about the Trump presidency. I thought his adult children and Jared Kushner would be steadying influences on him. Instead, I think they’ve become hindrances. It would probably be best if Kushner and Ivanka both left the White House. Trump needs skilled political operatives around him, not family members with no experience in politics.

  896. Robbie says:

    RedState’s Jay Carrso nails Trump’s problem. he’s his own worst enemy.

    http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/07/18/president-donald-trump-six-months-failure-leadership/

  897. NYCmike says:

    Robbie has hit the motherlode today – negative stories everywhere.

    Meanwhile, Hillary is still in Chappaqua……

  898. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 18, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Meanwhile, Hillary is still in Chappaqua……

    – So the fact she’s not president excuses what has been six awful months for Republicans at all levels?

    I don’t play “whataboutism”. I deal with what’s in front of me and that’s a presidency off the rails and a party that can’t get anything done.

    And if this continues, tell me how Republican survive 2018?

  899. Robbie says:

    Trump has now had three positions on Obamacare repeal in the last 12 hours.

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump 13h
    13 hours ago

    Republicans should just REPEAL failing ObamaCare now & work on a new Healthcare Plan that will start from a clean slate. Dems will join in!

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump 3h
    3 hours ago

    As I have always said, let ObamaCare fail and then come together and do a great healthcare plan. Stay tuned!

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump 1h
    1 hour ago

    The Senate must go to a 51 vote majority instead of current 60 votes. Even parts of full Repeal need 60. 8 Dems control Senate. Crazy!

  900. Trump says:

    Retard Robbie,

    Take your doll to mommy and point out where Trump hurt you today.

    On the Obamacare repeal, 7 years of GOP lies are coming to a head.

  901. Trump says:

    Good luck running on No Obamacare Repeal next year.

  902. Jonesy says:

    Utah Robbie is posting to himself again.

    Scroll Down

  903. Jonesy says:

    GOP will lose the House, without Repeal.

    Republican Senators could care less though, as long as they keep the Upper Chamber. Very sad

  904. Jonesy says:

    We will be able to confirm Judges after 2018, but everything else will be dead.

    GOP elites want to lose the House, to hurt Trump.

    Donnelly and Claire M voted for Obamacare, which helps

  905. Waingro says:

    Jonesy: everything seems dead anyway. Nothing is getting done.

  906. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 11:33 am
    Utah Robbie is posting to himself again.
    Scroll Down

    – I didn’t predict Hillary would win Utah, but you did say Robert Bork was in line to become Chief Justice had he been confirmed in 1987.

  907. Jonesy says:

    Brutal headline by Drudge. So true though.

    GOP Establishment hatred of Trump is so fierce, that they will not allow him to pass anything except Judges. Senator Capito provides Manchin Cover, by saying no on repeal.

    What is the point of voting for a GOP Congress at this point? They want Gridlock

  908. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 11:38 am

    GOP elites want to lose the House, to hurt Trump.

    – A very hot take.

    If GOP elites wanted to hurt Trump, they would have tried to stop him at the convention last Summer.

    If GOP elites wanted to hurt Trump, they’d publically abandon him over Comey, Flynn, and Russia.

    They’ve done none of that though.

  909. Jonesy says:

    952. Delusional.

  910. Robbie says:

    At least Trump got play in a fire engine yesterday.

  911. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 11:45 am
    952. Delusional.

    – I know! You’re claim Bork was in line to become Chief Justice was delusional.

  912. Trump says:

    The retard still stuck on his stupid delusions.

  913. Trump says:

    Didn’t the GOP elite try to stop Trump all through 2016, retard Robbie?

    The Jeb alt-world really blew your mind, moron?

  914. Jonesy says:

    951. Wain, hard to be optimistic at this point. We hold all branches of power, and the elites in the GOP are openly trying to take down Trump, and screwing the Middle class in the process.

    Many will stay home in 2018 at this rate

  915. Trump says:

    What was the whole snit by loser Romney all about? What about the Egg mcmuffin?

    What about Ryan, Kasich and the other assorted losers, retard?

  916. Jonesy says:

    Moore Capito stabbed us in the back

  917. J. Cutler says:

    Where’s good buddy Corey?

  918. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 18, 2017 at 11:50 am
    What was the whole snit by loser Romney all about? What about the Egg mcmuffin?
    What about Ryan, Kasich and the other assorted losers, retard?

    – Did the GOP elite who ran the convention last Summer allow a rule change that would have unbound the delegates? No. In fact, it was Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan who made the choice to go with Trump over Cruz. They made sure the convention stuck with Trump. And even today, they still stand by him when it would probably be convenient for them to bail on him.

  919. jason says:

    Wobbie hardest hit…

    “Even though President Donald Trump has seen his approval ratings drop to all-time lows, the commander in chief might relish the fact that Americans view him slightly better than his former Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

    The former secretary of state notched a 39 percent favorable rating, 2 points lower than Trump, in Bloomberg’s National Poll results released Tuesday, the second-worst score for Clinton in the almost eight years the poll has followed her.”

  920. Jonesy says:

    GOP Senators with their gold plated plans, could care less about the Obamacare taxes on the Middle Class. why vote for them?

  921. Jonesy says:

    Jason how to do you feel about this Healthcare crap?

  922. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 18, 2017 at 11:57 am
    Wobbie hardest hit…
    “Even though President Donald Trump has seen his approval ratings drop to all-time lows, the commander in chief might relish the fact that Americans view him slightly better than his former Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

    – That’s bad news for Hillary in this Fall’s election against Trump.

  923. Trump says:

    The retard rewriting history?

    Yup, the GOP elite supported trump throughout the campaign.

    Ryan supported trump so much that he refused to campaign with him in Wisconsin.

    Behold the results of incessant Jeb cocsucking.

  924. Trump says:

    The retard thinks the GOP elite did not change convention rules because they supported trump.

    Not because the loser elites were afraid of trump voters.

  925. Trump says:

    Brokered convention, retard?

  926. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 18, 2017 at 12:02 pm
    The retard rewriting history?
    Yup, the GOP elite supported trump throughout the campaign.
    Ryan supported trump so much that he refused to campaign with him in Wisconsin.
    Behold the results of incessant Jeb cocsucking.

    – No, I’m not. Parts of the GOP tried to stop Trump in the primary, but that’s just how primaries play out. One side tries to stop/defeat the other.

    Jonesy said the GOP elite want to lose the House to hurt Trump. That’s not the case. If the establishment, which went with Trump over Cruz, wanted to hurt Trump, they’d have tried to unbind the delegates at the convention or they could abandon Trump over the Russia probe. They did neither.

  927. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 18, 2017 at 12:04 pm
    The retard thinks the GOP elite did not change convention rules because they supported trump.
    Not because the loser elites were afraid of trump voters.

    – Yes, that’s true. But if they had really wanted to hurt Trump, they could have. They didn’t. They acquiesced.

  928. Trump says:

    Right, and Trump and his supporters would acquiesce to any convention rule changes that would have denied him the nomination after getting over 60 percent of delegates.

    That’s what this retard’s monkey believes.

  929. Trump says:

    The reality is, the GOP establishment could not figure out a way to handle Trump.

    Because they are losers who have lost so much confidence of GOP voters that an iffy republican came in and captured the nomination. Against the best and the brightest, without spending any money.

  930. lisab says:

    A Sprinkle of Seaweed Could Deflate Gassy Cows

    Scientists are working to curtail the seven billion metric tons of CO2 equivalents cattle spew into the atmosphere every year.

    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/people-and-culture/food/the-plate/2016/11/seaweed-may-be-the-solution-for-burping-cows/

  931. Trump says:

    And lying for 7 years about repealing Obamacare is really going to boost GOP popularity among its voters.

  932. lisab says:

    In WV you HAVE to appear in PERSON at local DMV EVERY 5 years to get new photo ID DL–and bring with you a wheelbarrow full of document…
    ————————-

    you still have to do that in ny am ma too, but if you make an appointment you can skip the line

  933. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 18, 2017 at 12:16 pm
    Right, and Trump and his supporters would acquiesce to any convention rule changes that would have denied him the nomination after getting over 60 percent of delegates.
    That’s what this retard’s monkey believes.

    – I didn’t say it would’ve worked, but it would’ve hurt Trump.

  934. Trump says:

    Doubling down on stupid, retard.

    Always unproven and unprovable assertions. That’s what the retarded money lives on.

  935. Trump says:

    You can see how this moron comes up with 374 ev’s for Hillary.

  936. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 18, 2017 at 12:47 pm
    You can see how this moron comes up with 374 ev’s for Hillary.

    – Except I didn’t.

  937. Barrett says:

    Soccer Moron, I did a search on this thread for 374 electoral votes. I found nothing except your first mention of it.

    Where was this said? When was it said? Otherwise it’s just “fake news”

  938. Trump says:

    Barrett,

    Life does not begin and end with this thread.

  939. Trump says:

    Do your own research. Go back to contemporary threads last year.

  940. Gassy Cow says:

    Where’s my cousin Cash?

  941. lisab says:

    Barrett,

    why would you even care?

  942. lisab says:

    apparently one of the flight attendants targeted ann coulter because they did not like her, i.e.

    they just wanted to be a jerk to her

  943. NYCmike says:

    “they just wanted to be a jerk to her”

    -Most likely true, and overly emotional people will accept that because they don’t care for Coulter, even though almost none of them know her personally.

    SAD.

  944. NYCmike says:

    Barrett,

    The better question would be “”Trump” seems to be exaggerating. Robbie, what was your highest prediction of Electoral Votes for Hillary over the course of the year?”.

  945. Gassy Cow says:

    I should probably stop drinking Rolling Rock.

  946. NYCmike says:

    Gassy Cow should drink HeineyKen

  947. NYCmike says:

    In regards to the Obamacare Repeal and Replace with More Crap Vote, is Susan Collins now a “DEADENDER”?

    Just want to make sure the HHR dictionary gets an update, IF NEEDED……..

  948. NYCmike says:

    Herman Cain about to make an appearance….

  949. lisab says:

    new drink:

    kahlua and stolichnaya vodka

    it is called a russian kahlusion 🙂

  950. lisab says:

    if the repeal obamacare

    the dems will not do anything

    if obamacare collapses they will just blame republicans

    soooooooo … the republicans will have to pass a healthcare bill on their own

  951. lisab says:

    Straight repeal is officially dead. Murkowski, Collins, and Capito all oppose.

  952. Gassy Cow says:

    Hello?

  953. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  954. Cash Cow TM says:

    NEW FRED…

  955. NYCmike says:

    “Straight repeal is officially dead. Murkowski, Collins, and Capito all oppose.”

    -Is another update to the dictionary needed?

  956. JC says:

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