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Trump Trails Biden/Sanders/Harris/Booker For Re-election

We have a new poll from Public Policy Polling for the Presidential race in 2020 and it shows Donald Trump trailing by various margins against some well-known Democrats.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (PPP)
Joe Biden (D) 54%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 39%

Cory Booker (D) 45%
Donald Trump (R) 40%

Kamala Harris (D) 41%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 40%

Bernie Sanders (D) 52%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 39%

This poll was done July 14-17 among 836 registered voters. Of note to me, Trump seems to be stuck at 39-405 no matter who his Democratic opponent is.

Posted by Dave at 1:23 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,383)

1,383 Responses to “Trump Trails Biden/Sanders/Harris/Booker For Re-election”

  1. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1

  2. I love Donald Trump says:

    Trump has excellent political skills. Let Obamacare collapse. Trump can campaign against the democrats and rinos. I knew the GOP would not repeal it. They are a bunch of liars.

  3. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Apparently hospitals have made out quite well under Obamacare.

    http://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obamacare-non-profit-hospital-taxes/

  4. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    D+11 poll. Garbage!

  5. gameboy says:

    D+11….LOL

    Amazing how they jimmie up these polls to get their desired result. The sad part is many folks on this site fall for it including the moderator.

  6. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #5
    Yes and in that PPP Poll, the Congressional Generic Ballot is D+10 although each Party receives 9% of the other Party’s vote and the Indie vote is dead even.

  7. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #6
    Add: Even the eeyores at Red Racing Horses are deriding the PPP Poll.

  8. Jonesy says:

    Robbie believes PPP

  9. Jonesy says:

    Moshem at RRH is the worst Steeple. He had Ossoff winning big

  10. jason says:

    Wasn’t he trailing Hillary Clinton too?

  11. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    If you look at the PPP Poll about 30 anti-Trump and anti-GOP questions were asked before the 2020 head-to-head match-ups!

  12. jason says:

    Maybe if Bernie wins he can pardon his wife and get her out of jail.

  13. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Robbie believes PPP

    – When they poll in NC, yes. Otherwise, I don’t really care what they have to say. They’re professional trollers.

  14. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #2
    Agreed with no bailout of the insurance companies for the risk corridors.
    When folks see their premium increases in October for 2018, they will scream bloody murder.

  15. Jonesy says:

    Drudge is a eyeore these days. He really hates Paul Ryan, from what I hear

  16. Jonesy says:

    I thought PPP had Kay Hagan winning big in 2014

  17. Robbie says:

    Why are these hypothetical results really a surprise? Trump is getting just about what his national approval rating is. That’s pretty typical.

  18. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #17
    See numbers 4 and 11.

  19. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 3:06 pm
    I thought PPP had Kay Hagan winning big in 2014

    – Their final poll had Hagan ahead 48-46.

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    Drudge is a eyeore these days. He really hates Paul Ryan, from what I hear

    Matt Drudge is Tina?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g&app=desktop

  21. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 18, 2017 at 3:10 pm
    #17
    See numbers 4 and 11.

    – Trump’s national numbers 40, 39, 40, 39 match his current job approval rating. That’s about what you would expect from an incumbent president in a re-election matchup.

  22. Bitterlaw says:

    While I think that people should not be like Wes and try to stay married, I think that divorce is justified in this case.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/20170718_ap_d920145e16a7405691566f675aa12017.html

  23. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #19
    I believe that PPP in the NC never ever showed Hagan behind in the last year prior to the election.

  24. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 18, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    #19
    I believe that PPP in the NC never ever showed Hagan behind in the last year prior to the election.

    – Most of the polling from NC in 2014 showed Hagan winning. In fact, just 4 of the last 34 polls (August until election day) showed Tillis ahead. PPP wasn’t alone.

  25. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Apparently 900 cars were torched in France in protest over Bastille Day. Mostly migrants from Arab countries are doing it, apparently because they have not been properly been assimilated into French society.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/07/18/nearly-900-cars-burned-in-france-after-trumps-bastille-day-march/

  26. JC says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 18, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    Apparently 900 cars were torched in France in protest over Bastille Day. Mostly migrants from Arab countries are doing it, apparently because they have not been properly been assimilated into French society.
    ——————————–

    Good god. And most of those migrants are probably living entirely off welfare too.

    Europe is in late stage socialism.

  27. Phil says:

    Do you think Trump is a liar?

    What kind of pollster asks that question like that?

    Did Jensen or any other pollster ever ask that about Obama when he was president?

    Of course not.

  28. Phil says:

    Jensen and his polling outfit are out and out hacks.

  29. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    One positive effect of the Trump presidency (as crazy as it is) is what it has prevented from happening. Prior to Trump we were heading down the yellow brick road to the type of socialism that is rotting Europe.

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    Do you think Trump is a liar?

    Sometimes.

  31. Phil says:

    Dems up 10 in generic according to PPP. Needed D+11 to get there.

    Hey Jensen, it was D+1 in the last off year election but of course you knew that.

  32. Trump says:

    The good thing about these fake polls is they keep stupid Dems like Robbie smug and blind.

    They then forget to campaign in wi, mi, and pa.

  33. Bitterlaw says:

    Whenever you think that you have problems, remember that somebody has something worse to deal with.

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/NJ-Boys-Life-Celebrated-With-Superhero-Funeral–435219073.html

  34. NYCmike says:

    “Do you think **insert name** is a liar?”

    “Sometimes.”

    -Trying doing business with people and telling the truth EVERY TIME you open your mouth…..people WANT TO HEAR certain things at certain times.

    If we have a delivery that is running late, we don’t tell them “Well, we thought the delivery which paid us $100 was more important than yours, which only paid $75…..”.

  35. Paul says:

    I’m voting for Booker.

  36. Paul says:

    I’m glad the repeal is dead. My family can keep their Obamacare insurance. Works for me.

  37. Bitterlaw says:

    I knew NYC would be the first to respond to what I posted.

    Just accept that I despise Trump but hated Hillary more. That is why he got my vote. I’m stuck with him but that does not mean that I have to like him or trust him. He’s a lifelong Democrat no matter how many times NYC tries to deny it. Trump was the worst candidate I ever voted for at any level but he was better than Hillary.

  38. Trump says:

    Trump was the best candidate.

    Knows how to win.

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Soccer Moron – Let me be more precise. Trump was the worst human being for whom I ever voted.

  40. Robbie says:

    At least Mexico is paying for the wall.

  41. Obamacare says:

    Knows how to win.

    Really?

  42. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “President Donald Trump declared Tuesday it’s time to “let Obamacare fail” after the latest GOP health care plan crashed and burned in the Senate,”

    Politically, the Democrats still own Obamacare; and when things get worse, will be blamed.

    Of course, California may adopt single payer medical care system sometime soon, which will cost $400 billion. They have not found a way to pay for it, but in California massive unfunded programs are not an issue.

  43. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    38. Trump was the best candidate. Knows how to win.

    Agree. But he might want to brush up on his legislative skills.

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    Politically, the Democrats still own Obamacare; and when things get worse, will be blamed.

    Wishful thinking. The GOP said they would replace it with something better. Failure to do so will give them the blame.

  45. NYCmike says:

    “He’s a lifelong Democrat no matter how many times NYC tries to deny it.”

    -I’ll go by how he was registered FIRST, and then I will look at the people he picked to help run his administration, and to fill the Supreme Court.

    The voter registration cards prove you wrong, so the judge would throw out the case.

    The people he has picked backs up the first point, so you should be embarrassed to keep repeating the line about Trump as “a lifelong Democrat”.

    Facts are hard to deny, except if you want to lie to yourself.

    That said, I would also NOT call him a Republican, a conservative, or a “liberal Democrat”.

    He is a man out for himself. Sometimes that is the best one can ask for.

  46. NYCmike says:

    ” Failure to do so will give them the blame.”

    -Not so, if they are smart politicians…….darn!

  47. Trump says:

    and nobody cares what your feelings are, moron bitter.

    Why don’t you suck yourself.?

  48. NYCmike says:

    “At least Mexico is paying for the wall.”

    -YES, with ridiculous statements like these from “Republicans”, being NOT HILLARY is plenty!

  49. Trump says:

    Our leaders are so fu cked up that a lifelong democrat screwed you.

    Couldn’t happen to a stupider group of as$holes.

  50. Trump says:

    Your leaders…

  51. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    36. “I’m glad the repeal is dead. My family can keep their Obamacare insurance. Works for me.”

    Over the long-term, that is about as beneficial as reserving a deck chair on the Titanic.

  52. Trump says:

    Hopefully there is more where trump came from.

  53. Bitterlaw says:

    and nobody cares what your feelings are, moron bitter.

    Is that is why you respond to all of my posts?

  54. Trump says:

    Only your leaders McConnell and Ryan could come up with a bill more unpopular than Obamacare.

    Enjoy.

  55. Trump says:

    Can you type legible English, moron?

    Neither math nor language is good for you, idiot.

  56. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    44.”Wishful thinking. The GOP said they would replace it with something better. Failure to do so will give them the blame.”

    They could not replace it because the Democrats blocked them from doing so. If it goes bad, the Democrats are to blame — why did they not vote to repeal? They cannot blame Trump for not being able to overcome their own opposition.

  57. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 18, 2017 at 5:49 pm
    “At least Mexico is paying for the wall.”
    -YES, with ridiculous statements like these from “Republicans”, being NOT HILLARY is plenty!

    – If “Not Hillary” is enough, then why would you expect them to accomplish anything? They already accomplished the “Not Hillary” agenda on election night.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    Neither math nor language is good for you, idiot.

    Cory used to get angry about math. Hmmmm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g&app=desktop

  59. JC says:

    Capito, who voted for the 2015 Repeal bill, now says she cannot vote for that same exact legislation again ‘without a replacement’. Gee, I wonder what radical thing changed in 2 years to suddenly make that vote ‘unconscionable’. I guess her donors had no qualms about her vote in 2015 when the bill had no chance of being signed.

    The Republican party is trash.

    I gave up on the Republican party after the disastrous 2015 omnibus bill where the loser minority party got everything they wanted. I was so angry, I vowed to never provide support for Republicans again. I mean, what’s the point of winning elections if you still lose anyway?

    Actually, it really started before that, when they tried to foist another moderate Bush onto us. I was so sickened at the prospect of the GOPe once again putting their lackey on top that I stopped following politics for months. Seriously, it literally made my stomach churn just thinking about it, and so I just tuned it all out. It wasn’t until Trump came along that I started paying attention again, and only for the spectacle of him ruining the GOPe’s perfect plans.

    And then Trump started fighting back against these @ssholes tooth and nail. He said and defended common sense things like securing our borders and killing bad trade. He fought back against the msm smears, and never once gave in to their criticisms. When they tried all of their usual tactics to silence and destroy us, Trump just stuck his middle finger in the air and said ‘F… You’.

    And God did that feel good, to have someone fighting for US for a change.

    It was Trump, and ONLY Trump, that brought me back.

    My point to all this is this; If these GOPe mother f…ers think I’m going to vote for them as they resist our president, then they will be in for quite a shock in 2018. I will stick with Trump, so long as he continues to try and implement his agenda. But if GOP can’t implement what we elected them to do, what we gave them all three federal branches and most state legislatures to do, then I WILL NOT place my faith in these @ssholes again.

    Even if that means sitting home in 2018. IMO, it no longer makes any difference which letter is next to the name. At least the dems have the decency to stab me from the front, instead of behind my back.

  60. Bitterlaw says:

    Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, JC. I know people who will come back to the GOP when Trump is gone. I stay no matter what the party does because I have nowhere else to go. Independents can’t vote in Pennsylvania primaries and Democrats are unacceptable at any level.

  61. Bitterlaw says:

    Why don’t you go back to Jason T or JT? Bitching and moaning under a new handle is weak.

  62. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile, a quote from a recent book about the Trump campaign — and the guy who appears to be running things:

    “Kushner pressed him and said it ‘would be helpful if you stepped down’.

    Manafort resisted and said: ‘Yes, but I can’t do that’.

    The book says: ‘At this Kushner’s demeanour hardened and he glanced at his watch. ‘We’re putting out a press release at 9am that says you’ve resigned. That’s in 30 seconds’.”

  63. Jonesy says:

    Bitter you are a little smart ass tonight. Chill out

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    I am the some A-hole I have been for 13 years.

  65. Jonesy says:

    When Trump is gone, the GOP can go back to minority status and lead from behind. The easy way, like the Obama years

  66. JC says:

    Bitterlaw, your party has failed.

    The establishment which you support, the party leadership you blindly follow like dumb cattle, see’s you as nothing more than a pedestal to stand on.

  67. Jonesy says:

    JC, we are all pissed that we have complete control and cannot do crap. The GOPe wants trump to lose the house and 2020. Sad but true

  68. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 18, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Why don’t you go back to Jason T or JT? Bitching and moaning under a new handle is weak.
    ——————

    I’ve never once used any other username on this site. This is me. http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile

    I get it though. It’s easier to attack the messenger rather than refute the message.

  69. Bitterlaw says:

    The GOPe wants trump to lose the house and 2020. Sad but true.

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Poor Jonesy. The GOP won’t take orders from him. It never occurred to him that unlike the Democrats, Republican politicians are allowed to have different views and proposals.

  70. Jonesy says:

    Can trump issue a EO to force congress to enroll in Obamacare?

  71. Jonesy says:

    Different views are fine bitter. Dems have them too, but Reid would have passed it

  72. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 18, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    The GOPe wants trump to lose the house and 2020. Sad but true.

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Poor Jonesy. The GOP won’t take orders from him. It never occurred to him that unlike the Democrats, Republican politicians are allowed to have different views and proposals.
    ——————

    That kind of defeats the point of being in a party, does it not?

  73. Jonesy says:

    Bitter how many handles do you have here? Robbie etc..

  74. lisab says:

    It never occurred to him that unlike the Democrats, Republican politicians are allowed to have different views and proposals.
    —————————————–

    that would be a good argument if trump had proposed a plan to replace obamacare, but he did not.

    trump: republicans in congress, repeal and replace obamacare

    congress: no, we can’t

    trump: well then fix obamacare

    congress: no we can’t

    trump: well then just repeal it

    congress: no we can’t

    trump: then what?

    congress: we loke obamacare, it gives us lots of taxes and helps the illegal immigrants we have working in our mansions

  75. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 6:50 pm
    Bitter how many handles do you have here? Robbie etc..

    – Nice try, moron. Bitter and I are different A-holes. We’ve both been here since 2004. You showed up with your Trumpian vomit a few weeks ago.

  76. Robbie says:

    It turns out Trump had a second private meeting with Putin. In the room were Putin, Trump, and Putin’s translator. The meeting last an hour and the only account American officials got of the meeting was what Trump told them.

    Trump in a room alone with Putin. What could possibly go wrong?

  77. Jonesy says:

    Already discredited Robbie as fake news. Last refuge

  78. JC says:

    Robbie says:
    July 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 6:50 pm
    Bitter how many handles do you have here? Robbie etc..

    – Nice try, moron. Bitter and I are different A-holes. We’ve both been here since 2004. You showed up with your Trumpian vomit a few weeks ago.

    ————————–

    Wow, Jonesy has only been here for a few weeks and he already has a better reputation than you.

  79. Bitterlaw says:

    Only Bitterlaw (and the awesome parody ones). Robbie is Robbie.

  80. Robbie says:

    JC says:
    July 18, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    Wow, Jonesy has only been here for a few weeks and he already has a better reputation than you.

    – He has a good reputation with Trump chumps like you. Thankfully, you’re not part of the Republican Party so I don’t give crap what a fraud like you thinks.

  81. Jonesy says:

    You said Hawley would not run in MO, Wobbie. Wrong again dufus

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – I have to remind you that you are not A-hole. You may be an a-hole.

  83. Jonesy says:

    JC, when betting on football, get Robbie’s picks first. And then fade them

  84. PresidentPaul! says:

    Once again McConnell getting it done with a straight repeal vote.

    This isn’t about actually passing a new insurance bailout like Paul Ryan wanted but about getting the moderates on record as supporting Obamacare.

  85. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 7:01 pm
    You said Hawley would not run in MO, Wobbie. Wrong again dufus

    – Doubt I said that. Proof?

  86. Jonesy says:

    Where is Corey tonight?

  87. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 18, 2017 at 7:02 pm
    Robbie – I have to remind you that you are not A-hole. You may be an a-hole.

    – Noted.

  88. Jonesy says:

    We will get Lisa to check that Robbie.

  89. Robbie says:

    Next, Jonesy will say, because I reported a story from David Drucker in the Washington Examiner noted that SOME Republicans feared Hawley might not run, that means I said Hawley wouldn’t run.

  90. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 7:04 pm
    We will get Lisa to check that Robbie.

    – No, you find it tough guy. You made the charge so you do the research.

  91. JC says:

    Thankfully, you’re not part of the Republican Party so I don’t give crap what a fraud like you thinks.
    —————-

    Re-read my statement.

    I’m giving these dolts one more chance to pass the repeal and delay strategy (which I’ve been advocating since the beginning).

    If they fail to do what they’ve done 7 other times, then I’m done with the party forever.

  92. PresidentPaul! says:

    The three GOP senators who committed to killing the Obamacare repeal.

    Trend?

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500415590550.jpg

    This is why I said any woman on Trump’s SC short list needs more vetting than the men given the importance of any further appointments.

  93. PresidentPaul! says:

    Murkowski in the middle had the GOP base’s money stolen and funneled to her campaign because of the corrupt Alaskan GOP chair who helped steal the 2012 nomination from Ron Paul.

  94. Robbie says:

    Poor Jonesy. Popped off without any proof. Sad.

    Robbie says:
    July 9, 2017 at 5:57 pm
    Wes says:
    July 9, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    Robbie, there are conflicting reports there. Wagner claimed Hawley told her he wouldn’tt run.
    Other sources say Hawley is conflicted.
    Still others say he’s playing a kabuki dance to neutralize Dem charges of ladder climbing.
    I certainly hope yhe last is true.
    – From what I’ve read this week, a Josh Krashaar story in National Journal said Hawley had no intention of challenging Wagner in a primary, but Wagner got aggravated some wanted Hawley over her so she called their bluff and decided not to run.
    A Fred Barnes piece later in the week suggested Hawley was likely to run and he had even had a meeting with McConnell last month. Morning Consult said he was conflicted, but I get the sense he’ll probably run.

  95. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump drains the Swamp

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500419524996.jpg

  96. Tina says:

    Team uni is the least prodictive congress evah.

  97. Tina says:

    I have said since 2010 that mitchie was ineffective. Well documented here

  98. Tina says:

    DBloom451
    ·
    8h

    LYING, LIAR ? @SenRobPortman voted AYE for REPEAL in 2015, but now he’s “concerned.”

    USELESS, LYING @GOP GRIFTERS!

    Utter aholes.

  99. PresidentPaul! says:

    Although he’s no Rubio or McCain, Ryan is still one of the worst they have in DC

    At the headquarters of his far-right publication, Breitbart News, Mr Bannon unloaded on Mr Ryan as a “limp-d**k motherf***** who was born in a petri dish at the Heritage Foundation,” a conservative think tank.
    In Devil’s Bargain: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and the Storming of the Presidency, Mr Green argues that the Speaker exemplified just the kind of traditional conservative politics Mr Bannon hoped to upset.
    A strong supporter of the emerging “alt-right,” Mr Bannon threatened to rally their young, far-right forces against Mr Ryan.
    “Pepe’s gonna stomp their ass,” he reportedly said, referring to the movement’s cartoon frog mascot.

  100. JC says:

    He Fights’=
    https://townhall.com/columnists/evansayet/2017/07/13/he-fights-n2354580

    So, to my friends on the Left – and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.

    So, say anything you want about this president – I get it, he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights.

  101. PresidentPaul! says:

    Paul Ryan has been laughing his way to the bank since he left the college republicans to become a professional criminal.

  102. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Just a reminder, it took over a year for Congress to pass the original Obamacare bill. Obama proposed it in February 2009, and he did not sign the bill until March 23,2010. In August 2009 there were raucous demonstrations involving the Tea Party on one extreme and Medicare-for-all supporters on the other. It was a bloody battle for an entire year. Remember Scott Brown getting elected?

    Did anyone really believe that Obamacare could be repealed and a replacement drafted and adopted in a matter of months? Setting unrealistic deadlines doesn’t work. Tinkerbell is not a member of Congress.

    They need to convene a committee of experts from the insurance, medical and other related fields to methodically examine the issues with Obamacare and propose a replacement. Let them come up with a workable alternative, not congress.

  103. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “since he left the college republicans to become a professional criminal.”

    Did he need a professional degree to do that? I was a college republican once, don’t remember ever being offered professional criminal training. Those of us in the West miss out on things.

  104. PresidentPaul! says:

    #105
    I don’t trust politicians who aren’t already rich or at least had their own path in life prior to becoming a party apparatchik.

    Ryan there to get rich, power, etc.

    Playing games with others money is very corrupting

  105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    106. You may have a point to an extent, a lot of money chasers get involved in politics.

  106. PresidentPaul! says:

    Almost all the house GOP supported the Obamacare insurance bailout.

    These people can’t think for themselves. I think they’re like a herd of dumb animals stumbling over each other.

  107. PresidentPaul! says:

    and they all supported Bush. Sorry I just don’t trust them.

  108. Tina says:

    President Donald J. Trump will formally nominate former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman as ambassador to Russia @PPDNews

  109. I love Donald Trump says:

    If GOP can pass tax reform, the public will ignore this train wreck. Also, Mitch is doing the right thing in allowing a vote on repeal. Murkowski and Caputo are toast.

  110. Jonesy says:

    What about bogus morning consult tweets, Utah Robbie?

  111. Jonesy says:

    89. You link garbage, Reynolds Wrap, and then do not own up to your MSM doomed posts.

    What a moron

  112. Jonesy says:

    JC, I tend to agree. To hold all power, and then Medicaid slugs like capiuto and Portman nix repeal, makes me sick.

    Judges are the only reason to stay GOP at this point, but ironically Roberts could have stopped ocare in the first place.

  113. PresidentPaul! says:

    #114
    Well if Trump loses, then another tea party will get to go after them all since judges don’t matter then.

    Would be best to get a vote on repeal to help clarify things for future primaries.

  114. Robbie says:

    Poor, Jonesy. That’s all you’ve got? You claimed I wrote Hawley wouldn’t run. Presented with the evidence in 94 you were totally wrong, you just ignored it and made another ridiculous claim.

  115. Tina says:

    Fake News Backfire: Dr. Sebastian Gorka Uses Jake Tapper’s Big Mouth to Humiliate Ben Rhodes
    dailywire.com

    Poor lil ben.

  116. Paul says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 18, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    36. “I’m glad the repeal is dead. My family can keep their Obamacare insurance. Works for me.”

    “Over the long-term, that is about as beneficial as reserving a deck chair on the Titanic.”

    I’m fine with a deck chair. It works fine this year and for a couple more years for my family. I take it one year at a time.

  117. Jonesy says:

    116. Delusional as always. Sigh….

  118. Tina says:

    And do not worry, a CR is arounf the corner.

  119. Trump says:

    The fuc King retard Robbie is whining again about his credibility.

    As$hole moron butt hurt about Jeb still.

  120. Tina says:

    We need to rolace mitchie.

    Ryano is a follower.

  121. Trump says:

    Stick to brokered convention, dip sh&it.

  122. Tina says:

    Was broker d convention 2098 or 2012?

  123. Jonesy says:

    Tina, Trump voters held the Senate for the GOP in 2016. Held their nose on Rubio, Portman etc.. to help trump get things passed. gorsuch is all we got from these jellyfish

  124. Paul says:

    We’ll all be under water in 2098.

  125. Trump says:

    John”is it a tax?” Roberts condemned millions to Obamacare servitude because he couldn’t stand Obama admin investigating his illegal adoptions.

  126. Jonesy says:

    Robbie can never live down the brokered convention, Utah, and Hillary 374 ev.

    And of course his ever loving msm tweets

  127. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris ‘Absolutely’ Running for President in 2020 – Fundraiser

  128. Trump says:

    Robbie retard has less credibility than Cory the Canuck or MD the “relentless” bully. At least they Thad the self-awareness to off themselves.

    Not this retard.

  129. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie – you need to get on board the Trump Train.

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500425487716.jpg

  130. Phil says:

    Kamala Harris with her eyes on the WH.

    Will be hard to stop. A younger much more ambitious Elizabeth Warren who will take this country further left than anyone can imagine if she is able to achieve her ultimate goal.

    Look out, America.

  131. Trump says:

    I can’t do anything right.

  132. Tina says:

    She is dumb, phil. We hold all 2016 states plus get nh and mn.

  133. Tina says:

    Limbaugh on Obamacare Repeal Failure: ‘Three Female Leftists’ in GOP Caucus Are Running the Senate, Not McConnell

    Mitchie is and was the weak link.

  134. Trump says:

    ‘Three Female Leftists’ LOL

  135. Hugh says:

    Rush has no credibility. I used to love him but while still smart his views would doom the conservative movement.

  136. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 18, 2017 at 9:08 pm
    Robbie can never live down the brokered convention, Utah, and Hillary 374 ev.

    And of course his ever loving msm tweets

    – If only I had actually predicted Hillary would win Utah or she would win 374 EV in my final prediction the day before the election.

  137. Robbie says:

    Hugh says:
    July 18, 2017 at 10:11 pm
    Rush has no credibility. I used to love him but while still smart his views would doom the conservative movement.

    – I agree. I started listening to Rush in March 1993. His show used to be enjoyable and, while a conservative, he understood the limitations of politics.

    That all seemed to change in 2008. Obama’s election seemed to make him snap. He’s been nothing but apocalyptic ever since and he’s done nothing but run down Republicans.

    He’s no longer a conservative. He’s an aggrieved populist.

  138. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie are you going to be on the Trump train for 2020?

  139. PresidentPaul! says:

    >Trump adviser Steve Bannon called Hillary Clinton a ‘fu/cking bull dike’ and Paul Ryan a ‘limp-dicked mother fu/cker’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4708134/Steve-Bannon-called-Hillary-Clinton-f-ing-bull-d-e.html

    >On Occupy Wall St protesters: ‘You want to go home and shower because you’ve just spent an hour and fifteen minutes with the greasiest, dirtiest people you will ever see’.

    >On progressive women: ‘A bunch of dikes’

  140. Tina says:

    Who are the 3?

    Maine chicklet, the alaska sea porker, and caput?

  141. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie- Rubio’s policies are failing Germany

  142. PresidentPaul! says:

    Tina
    They are in post 92

  143. Jonesy says:

    Robbie falls for fake news on trump/ Putin secret dinner. Moron

  144. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump gets two meetings and two scoops of ice cream

  145. Tina says:

    Mullah Merkel is turning germany i to a dump.

    Lil macaron will domthe dame in frsnde

  146. Tina says:

    A drat indicating rush is not conservstive.

    Lol

  147. Tina says:

    I do not listen to twlk radio. Immay get some segments here and there from tweets, but that is all.

  148. PresidentPaul! says:

    CNN: Trump gets two scoops, everyone else only gets one scoop

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEyLoZ7UAAEHjql.jpg

    Just wait until three scoops!

  149. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV governor

    “Jim Justice in West Virginia, who saw a 17-point drop in his net rating after clashing over the budget with Republicans in the statehouse as he attempted to implement some new taxes.”

    Republican Govs. Charlie Baker of Massachusetts and Larry Hogan of Maryland have the highest approval rating at 71 and 68 percents respectively; Republican Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey has the highest disapproval rating at 69 percent is tied for the lowest approval rating with fellow Republican Sam Brownback of Kansas at 25 percent.”

    In a new poll on rating governors…from Repass Polling company?

  150. Cash Cow TM says:

    I saw a video on Facebook of men rescuing a big goat that was hanging by it’s horn from a power pole line 20 feet in the air.

    It reminded me of something….maybe it was Trump, or Congress, or Robbie, or Bubu…

  151. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “‘Atypical’ form of mad cow disease confirmed in Alabama…”

    Here is something we should ALL be worrying about, instead of silliness in Washington…
    &&^&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    PLUS, DRUDGE has an article about how we are picking up weird noises from deep space.
    I am working on that…while you rapscallions are arguing about nonsense.

  152. Wes says:

    I don’t get how Kamala Harris and Liz Warren are supposed to be such formidable candidates. They’re extremist leftists who make no attempt to hide their ideology and have exactly zero crossover appeal. Trump won because Hillary caused whites to stampede his way in almost all critical states. When Warren and Harris start with their SJW garbage, they’ll meet a similar fate.

  153. Wes says:

    Honestly Andrew Cuomo would be Dems’ best bet if could survive a primary. He’s a reasonably successful Governor who’s much closer to the mean of American politics than Warren or Harris. He can also play well among whites currently abandoning the Dems. In short, he would complicate Trump’s reelection more than any other Dem.

  154. Jonesy says:

    Well said Wes. These comparisons of Harris and Obama are wrong by the media.

    2008 was a open seat, much easier for a challenger.

    Incumbents have so much power at their disposal

  155. Jonesy says:

    Wes, are you as pissed off at the GOP Senate, as I am over healthcare? Do you think no action on repeal will hurt us in 2018?

  156. Jonesy says:

    By the way. good get with Hawley in MO for the GOP

  157. Wes says:

    More importantly, Jonesy, Obama, while an extremist liberal, hid his ideology by obscuring it. Harris is an overt check-the-box liberal. It’s much easier to pigeonhole her than it was Obama.

  158. Wes says:

    I have mixed feelings on what Congress is doing, Jonesy. At this point, I think Republicans can handle things best by surreptitiously moving on to other issues.

  159. NYCmike says:

    “Well said Wes.”

    -Comment about Cuomo.

    Wes conveniently does NOT mention the first person who said to watch out for Baby Cuomo.

    My reasoning was simple: A Republican (combining w/ several Democrats to keep power) Senate chamber in NY was keeping the state government from going FULL MOONBAT, thereby insulating Andy from having to make very tough decisions that would hurt politically or hurt the state financially.

    Of course, Wes took this as meaning that I wanted a Dem Senate (ridiculous jump to a wrong conclusion), as opposed to a NY Republican Party that had some governing principles, other than maintaining power.

    That said, I am glad that Wes has finally come around to where I was 2 or more years ago, in regards to Cuomo.

  160. Tina says:

    The wp story about a 1 hour secret meeting with pooty poot is fake news.

    This was when trump was over at the g 20. Thankfully concern troll did not post the article.

  161. PresidentPaul! says:

    If McCain comes back, the gop senate is only one vote away from a clean repeal.

    I think they should just keep voting on it weekly until it gets done or we have GOP primaries. Can do other issues in the mean time also.

  162. Joney says:

    164. Agreed

    170. Let’s hope so Paul. Caputo is looking for some West Virginia Pork, like her peer Robert Byrd did.

  163. Joney says:

    GOP Senate will want to break for recess soon. Their Country Clubs are missing them

  164. PresidentPaul! says:

    Clinton foundation witness found dead

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500455922575.png

  165. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I am more sanguine than most on this blog about the GOP chances in the 2018 West Virginia Senate race against Democrat Joe Manchin.Here are the reasons:
    1) The GOP will field an excellent candidate; either Congressman Jenkins or the State’s AG.
    2) Pardon the pun, but the NRA is “gunning” for him. Although Pat Toomey(R-PA) survived last year, his competition(McGinty) in PA was unpalatable to the NRA. The gun culture in WV is very pro-NRA.
    3)Manchin voted for both H. Clinton and Obama.
    4)The EpiPen matter shows nepotism between father and daughter.

    Walt, you are on the ground in WV ,so what say you?

  166. Tina says:

    I have been saying the same thing as wes. Harris is a loon. She does not hide her leftist ideology. Imwould want her to be the drat canddidate, or Eric Holder.

    Kamela is nothing more than Willie Browns spring fling.

  167. PresidentPaul! says:

    #165

    Like a vote on funding Trump’s border security?

  168. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The new WP/ABC Poll shows Trump more popular in NYC(Northeast) than Alabama(South)!! This may be the #1 garbage poll of the year.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/07/19/National-Politics/Polling/question_18978.xml?uuid=NhF0AGxxEeervKU0gGcihg

  169. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #178
    Correction: should be GOP,not Trump

    Add: In this poll, the Generic Congressional Ballot is D+14 in a D+12 poll.

  170. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold prediction – We don’t know what will happen in 2018. Keep the Senate? Lose the Senate? Increase the number of GOP Senators? Lose GOP Senators? To be determined.

  171. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #181
    So profound and erudite! I guess we should discuss mostly your coaching record on this blog!

  172. PresidentPaul! says:

    Repealing Obamacare would a big enough political accomplishment that it would be worse taking a political hit (one that might be coming anyways.)

    That’s why McConnell needs to have weekly votes on a clean repeal every week until the midterm.

    Paul Ryan should be doing the same, but I think he there to make money and troll so he won’t do anything. Someone is probably stuffing money into his mail box.

  173. PresidentPaul! says:

    Basically Obamacare is s precursor to universal health care, and although plenty of people want Collins etc in there for the next vote on Trump’s justice, I still think there needs to be a price to pay in that all of these GOP senators need to be removed from office.

    The GOP needs a policy of blocking and filibustering all democratic nominees without even getting a hearing if they are sane for once Trump leaves office.

  174. JC says:

    I just came to a terrible realization.

    I always found it funny that every time some major legislation is about to go for a vote, we suddenly get a slew of polls that show just how dang popular the democratic party is, even as they hold historic lows in elected offices.

    I mean Donald Trump, and virtually every other Republican, got elected RUNNING full steam on Obamacare repeal just last November. They didn’t moderate, or try to hide their positions from the public. They were for complete and total repeal. They said so in their campaigns. They said so in their debates. They said so in interviews. Every person who voted for Republicans understood this. It was the defining issue that gave the GOP control of all three branches of federal government, plus total domination in state legislatures. Promise to repeal Obamacare gave the party their most successful electoral success possibly in history.

    And now, all of a sudden, just months after winning elections in a landslide running on repeal, we get bombarded with polls that say Americans just LOVE obamacare now! Suddenly, within months, a law that polled for 7 years straight at 30% now suddenly jumps to +50%.

    Suddenly, a democratic party holding its lowest levels of offices since Reconstruction, a party that can’t win elections, suddenly has a 12-15 point advantage on the congressional ballot.

    Yeah, sure. Whatever.

    Anyway, my terrible realization is not that the media extorts the truth and conducts push polling to influence public opinion rather than reflect it. That’s kind of obvious.

    No, the sad truth is that the media gets its power not by influencing the public, who has grown far to wise to believe their nonsense, but by successfully influencing the GOP establishment, who treats the media as gospels of truth. An establishment that operates on the singular purpose of trying to stay in the media’s good graces, in the hopes of not provoking their wrath. An establishment stuck in an eternal state of fear of the media and their narratives.

    The GOPe still believes that the media can crush anyone who opposes their narratives, and so like trained dogs hold their bark for their masters. Unlike Trump, they simply refuse to fight back.

  175. Tina says:

    We may keep senate but lose house, the rs leadership is subpar.

  176. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – This year was an improvement in softball. 4-12-1. It was a tougher league tha last year.

    I have the first pick in the Rec Basketball league. That is in December. I am drafting a 8th grade phenom. She dropped 30 on a team og high school players last season when I needed to call up a player.

  177. NYCmike says:

    “No, the sad truth is that the media gets its power not by influencing the public, who has grown far to wise to believe their nonsense, but by successfully influencing the GOP establishment, who treats the media as gospels of truth. An establishment that operates on the singular purpose of trying to stay in the media’s good graces, in the hopes of not provoking their wrath. An establishment stuck in an eternal state of fear of the media and their narratives.

    The GOPe still believes that the media can crush anyone who opposes their narratives, and so like trained dogs hold their bark for their masters. Unlike Trump, they simply refuse to fight back.”

    -And the ones that don’t mind the media (Cruz, Lee, Paul, etc) are simply denigrated as “deadenders”, showboats, and “Send a Message”-types, as opposed to principled conservatives…….by Republicans.

  178. NYCmike says:

    “We may keep senate but lose house, the rs leadership is subpar.”

    -I will hold my predictions until next year.

    VERY FEW people are paying attention. Friends of mine who were big Obama fans, yet are now dealing with higher health insurance costs across the board, are noticeably quiet when Trump/Congress/etc come up in conversation. They know that the “failure” of Congressional Republicans to pass any “REFORM” means that Obamacare is still the Law of the Land.

    Thankfully, one simple reminder from little old me is enough to keep the mouths zipped!

  179. jason says:

    I don’t have any problem with Ryan or McConnell.

    They can’t make up votes where there aren’t any.

    McConnell only has 51 votes at best, Rand Paul is not a Republican. Rand Paul is the party of one, the Party of Moron.

    On Healthcare, the problem is some Rs don’t realize that some of the Obamacare entitlements are water under the dam. That was decided long ago when the Dems bought 60 votes for it and SCOTUS ruled in its favor.

    As I said many times here, there is no going back on certain aspects of Obamacare, mainly that government is somehow responsible for insuring the uninsured, pre-existing conditions, kids until 26 on parent’s insurance, etc.

    The mistake was not accepting that we lost that battle. There was still an opportunity to make Obamacare or whatever less government heavy, less bureaucratic, more market friendly, more efficient.

    But some thought they could prevail on the all or nothing theory, and what they got was nothing.

    The “repeal” strategy is BS, everyone knows that even if Obamacare is repealed, the more popular aspects will survive in any new bill.

    Elections have consequences. Electing Obama meant that insuring everyone is now accepted by the majority of the population as another essential entitlement.

    The Republican party is stupid to tear itself apart over this water over the bridge, and blaming McConnell and Ryan for it is even more stupid.

  180. jason says:

    Huh, it should be water over the dam and under the bridge….

    More coffee..

  181. NYCmike says:

    Dang cockroaches – like 30 years ago, we dropped a “bomb” on a Friday night in our little shop in downtown NYC, to get the insect problem under control. Worked like a charm!

    Of course, it took about 15 minutes to open the door on Monday, since we had blocked off the insects exit under the door with towels.

    Plenty of crunching was heard as we kept pushing the door open bit by bit.

  182. NYCmike says:

    “As I said many times here, there is no going back on certain aspects of Obamacare, mainly that government is somehow responsible for insuring the uninsured, pre-existing conditions, kids until 26 on parent’s insurance, etc.”

    -If the Republicans would write bills for these respective mandates, while showing the associated costs that consumers are then responsible for, these “popular” mandates would probably become less so.*

    BUT, we are still waiting for that to happen.

    *As opposed to jason, I am willing to find out if I am wrong about this. jason, on the other hand, is very definite about his opinion (reminds me of MD when he does this), but does not want “his Republican Party” to stand on their stated principle of limited government is the best government. I do NOT wonder why that is.

  183. Tina says:

    I am not making predictioms at this time.

    I came backmhere a week or so before 2016 and gave predictions for trump,taking iowa, ohio, florida,mand north carolina.

  184. NYCmike says:

    What was found on this date in 1799? (DW will probably know).

  185. NYCmike says:

    Of course, Wikipedia has the found date as July 20, 1799, so take that for what it is worth.

  186. NYCmike says:

    D J ?

  187. NYCmike says:

    CC

  188. Wes says:

    Il Mikey assumes he’s imortant enough for me to think about when I’m reiterating political analysis I’ve made previously.

    How cute.

  189. Wes says:

    important*

  190. Robbie says:

    Politico picked up on the Newsmax report that Josh Hawley is likely to challenge McCaskill. They went on to write that Hawley and Rick Scott entering their races would be the difference between a bad recruiting cycle and a great one.

    The piece went on to state that nothing is set until they make it official though. Politico noted that both Ryan Zinke and Tim Fox had told people they were in until they suddenly weren’t. MT remains a real pisser to me.

  191. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    I would not think that you think of anybody, but yourself. That is the type of person you come across as.

    Of course, it makes sense. You mocked me for saying that the NY State Senate, with Republicans in power due to DEmocrat votes, was good for Cuomo.

    NOW, you recognize the fact that Cuomo, kept in check by the Republican Senate, could be a formidable nominee for the Democrat Party.

    I am glad that I helped you go from a mocking know-it-all to a person parroting my line from several years ago while not giving any credit to me. Cuomo needs to be shown for what he really is.*

    *Of course, I could see you staying home again, in regards to a Presidential choice, or even voting for Andy. You seem to be easily fooled by how the media portrays certain political figures.

  192. Robbie says:

    Healthcare is a real frustration. It was never handled well starting with the rollout of the initial House bill in early March. On top of that, trying to accomplish anything this significant when Rand Paul and the House Freedom Caucus have so much sway was always going to be tough.

    All that said, I think the fate of healthcare was, regrettably, settled when John Roberts changed his vote on Obamacare. Had he stuck with his original position, the entire law would have been ruled unconstitutional. Some argue that Romney’s loss in 2012 might have been the last chance, but it’s hard for me to see how he would have been able to do much with a Democrat Senate.

  193. Wes says:

    If Republicans nominated another Bush, I’d vote for Robert Mugabe if he were the Democrat nominee, Il Mikey.

    Of course you have things confused. I’ve long acknowledged Cuomo benefits from having Republicans run the NY State Senate. That’s only an obvious conclusion. It’s also why Cuomo never tries to help Dems win that chamber.

    The Senate you obviously want the Dems to control is the national one as evidenced by your absolute refusal to criticize Schumer for anything, your reflexive support of Deadenders, and your excusemaking for Aaron Day’s successful attempt to get Maggie Hassan elected to the Senate last year.

  194. jason says:

    ut does not want “his Republican Party” to stand on their stated principle of limited government”

    This is rich from a guy who supported deadenders giving away safe R seats so the Dems could approve Obamacare.

  195. jason says:

    for, these “popular” mandates would probably become less so.*”

    BS

    Support for these mandates is like 70% or higher.

    Let’s get real here.

    Everyone knows this is water under the bridge and those mandates are going nowhere.

    Elections have consequences. Supporting deadenders has consequences.

  196. jason says:

    are not going anywhere.

  197. Robbie says:

    If you read Trump’s tweets today, I’m not even sure he considers himself a Republican. He referred to Senate Republicans as “they” and he referred to the health bill as “their”.

  198. jason says:

    The idea that government is now responsible for providing insurance to the uninsured is here to stay. It’s as likely to go away as SS and Medicare.

    It’s the result of electing Obama and throwing away 5 senate seats (thanks to people like NYC).

    Trying to pretend otherwise is fantasy.

  199. jason says:

    Wobbie just discovered Trump is not a Republican?

    LOL

  200. jason says:

    He referred to Senate Republicans as “they” and he referred to the health bill as “their”.

    Of course, this has nothing to do with Trump being a Republican or not.

    The reason he says “they” is because he is not a Senator and “their” is because success has a thousand fathers while failure is an orphan.

  201. Trump says:

    Trump is a republican, and he has paperwork to prove it.

    Doesn’t matter how much cognitive dissonance the haters go through.

  202. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 19, 2017 at 10:52 am
    Wobbie just discovered Trump is not a Republican?
    LOL

    – I was the one who advocated banning him from the primary debates in July 2015 because I said he wasn’t a Republican. Buy yeah, I just figured out he wasn’t a real Republican.

  203. Trump says:

    Another fantasy by the retard Robbie.

    Banning Trump.

    Do you ever check in with reality, moron?

  204. Jonesy says:

    If Cuomo were the nominee in 2020, would be two races in a row that is all NY.

    Cuomo is dirty, as was his Father. How many of his NY State buddies have been indicted. A nasty divorce with a Kennedy to boot.

  205. NYCmike says:

    “Support for these mandates is like 70% or higher.”

    -AGREED.

    Of course, the public has not had to think about the costs that these mandates impose on each family, which is why I stated that Republicans should write a separate bill for each mandate, and get members on record to see how they would vote, AFTER all of the costs and implications of these goodies are exposed.

    I am NOT surprised that jason would be opposed to this idea.

  206. Jonesy says:

    Robbie is saying that he is not a member of the Uniparty. Which we all know is Dem and GOP elites

  207. Jonesy says:

    219. Meant Trump, not Robbie

  208. NYCmike says:

    ” On top of that, trying to accomplish anything this significant when Rand Paul and the House Freedom Caucus have so much sway was always going to be tough.”

    “The Senate you obviously want the Dems to control is the national one as evidenced by your absolute refusal to criticize Schumer for anything, your reflexive support of Deadenders, and your excusemaking for Aaron Day’s successful attempt to get Maggie Hassan elected to the Senate last year.”

    -Well, HHR is always good for laughs!

  209. Jonesy says:

    Scott-FL
    Hawley- MO
    Mandel- Ohio
    Jenkins/Morrisey- Wv
    Rokita- IND

    Pretty good lineup if True. so where is the so called Trump albatross for 2018?

  210. Trump says:

    How many fantasies do you entertain at the same time, retard Robbie?

    Banning trump from the party, brokered convention, Jeb, Clinton 374 EVs, third party’, whichever loser you voted for?

    Reality must be a rude bi$tch for you.

  211. Jonesy says:

    Matt Schlapp was very good on fox News last night. GOP Senate only voted for Repeal knowing Obama would veto. So Sad

  212. jason says:

    The Dems won the battle.

    They convinced 70% of Americans that you shouldn’t charge more for insuring people at higher risk than those with lower risk, thus violating the basic tenet of insurance.’

    It’s akin to saying you can’t charge more for car insurance for someone with 2 DUI convictions and several accidents than you can for someone with a perfect driving record.

    Or that you can’t charge more for life insurance for a 60 year old than for a 30 year old.

    Elections have consequences.

  213. NYCmike says:

    “If Republicans nominated another Bush, I’d vote for Robert Mugabe if he were the Democrat nominee, Il Mikey.”

    -Got it.

    In the same sentence that you change my handle to resemble that of a fascist dictator, you say you would vote for a murderous, fascist dictator instead of a person who respects the republican system of government we live under.

    HHR is a funny place!

  214. jason says:

    Of course, the public has not had to think about the costs that these mandates impose on each family, which is why I stated that Republicans should write a separate bill for each mandate, and get members on record to see how they would vote, AFTER all of the costs and implications of these goodies are exposed”

    Zzzzzzzz…

    Nobody cares because they think someone else will pay for it.

    If people really cared for how much entitlements cost, we would have far fewer of them.

    TELL A STORY!

  215. NYCmike says:

    “The Dems won the battle.”

    -Yes, they did, but not the war.

    Which is why Republicans need to repeal, and then have bills for each individual “popular” item, along with the hearings, interviews, mark-ups, whatever-Congress-does to get legislation to the floor for a vote, so that the voters can more fully understand what these “popular” mandates actually cost.

    Please let me know why you would be against an honest and open process like that.

  216. Trump says:

    Elections don’t have consequences for the GOP.

    They can’t get anything done whether they win or lose.

  217. NYCmike says:

    “TELL A STORY!”

    -An oldie but goodie, from Mr. Pavlov.

  218. jason says:

    NYC supported COD and assorted moron deadenders, but whines about wes throwing away his vote on Mugabe.

    HHR is a funny place.

  219. Robbie says:

    Obamacare is seven years old now. It’s become part of life for everyone and the view now seems to be “better the devil you know than the one you don’t”.

    I think Republicans should move on from healthcare to tax reform and infrastructure. If they pass those two items by next Spring, confirm a slew of judges, and the economy stays strong, it will be a big plus for 2018.

    If Republicans show some successes, who knows, maybe they can pull a rabbit out of the hat and win eight Senate seats and get to 60. If they do, then they can repeal Obamacare all the way in 2019.

  220. Tina says:

    Is team u i still having a vote in the senate?

    The maine chicklet, the alaskan sea porker, and caput love obumblercare, as does the AZ progressives.

  221. Robbie says:

    It’s asinine stuff like this that gets followers so wound up they do crazy things like shoot at Congressmen.

    Steve Peoples?
    @sppeoples

    Club For Growth and Tea Party Patriots launching new website today: “Traitorous Republicans.” Targets are Murkowski, Portman and Capito.

  222. Tina says:

    Phuq yeah, call the phony rs out, primary challenge them, and no $$$$.

    They ran on repealing it for years. All,lies.

    Traitors.

  223. jason says:

    Please let me know why you would be against an honest and open process like that.”

    Because there is nothing honest about it.

    I have said for years that anybody who was selling the idea that the popular aspects of Obamacare would be “repealed” were moronic idiots either too stupid to realize that battle was lost or bent on self promotion,

    Idiots like you maybe believed it, but anyone with half a brain realized that once an entitlement of that magnitude is implemented, its sayonara.

    The correct approach would have been to transform Obamacare into a much more market friendly and less intrusive system while preserving what was too late to reverse.

    But the deadenders wanted all or nothing, and got nothing. They were the ones being dishonest.

  224. Cash Cow TM says:

    2018 WV US Senate race…Blah, blah, blah…

    “Walt, you are on the ground in WV ,so what say you?”
    **********************************************
    Walt is doing chores, so I will take this one.

    Here is what Cow Plop Reseasrch.Com has gathered so far from the Cow Crystal Ball:

    –Rep. Jenkins was a lock in WV CD 3 for 2018.

    –Redistricting in 2010 will cause WV to lose 1 of the current 3 CD representatives. so perhaps Jenkins is reading the tea leaves regarding that…

    –So one of the current 3 seats/incumbents will disappear.

    –Jenkins is a pretty good candidate against Manchin for U.S. Senate.

    –WV AG Morissey is a pretty good candidate against Manchin.

    –WV law allows Morissey to compete in primary and general and even if he loses he retains the AG slot he won reelection to in 2016.

    –Jenkins is strong in southern WV CD3 and in lower Ohio Valley north of Huntington and West of Charleston. (this includes western part of CD2 and southern part of CD1)

    –Morissey’s base is the eastern panhandle and he is very strong there (2nd biggest population area of WV)

    –Jenkins was very active in the flood areas hit in 2016 in western part of CD 2.

    –Jenkins has been making appearances in areas of northern WV (CD1) and CD2 that stretches from Potomac River in east to Ohio river in west.

    –Both the Jenkins and Morissey camps have gone negative early, despite Morissey giving a glowing endorsement of Jenkins when he ran for Congress the first time.

    –Jenkins has $1.3M in his House of Rep campaign account

    –Morissey has leftover WV AG race campaign funds, but cannot use those in a federal race for U.S. Senate.

    –Morissey is a proven good campaigner and attracts lots of money, has won two statewide elections, and is well thought of statewide as to his performance as AG.

    –Manchin remains popular among Indys and has gotten over 20% crossover from Rs in past elections. He is still probably the most popular political person in WV. His base is the Charleston area where he lives and in the populated I-79 corridor (Fairmont/Clarksburg/Morgantown) and traditionally does well in Southern WV and Northern Panhandle (Wheeling)

    Two scenarios may play out.
    1. one of the two Rs may decide to drop out of race and the R candidate will be boosted by a united R party in WV and there will not be a bloody and expensive primary fight.

    2. neither R will drop out and there will be a bloody and expensive primary fight
    #############################################
    If it is #2, one side will be be butt-hurt and less likely to support the surviving R, making path of Manchin (D) easier in the general.

    As to what WILL happen in primary and general, the Cow Crystal Ball is clouding up now…

  225. Trump says:

    Another fantasy from the retard.

    GOP cannot move from the healthcare disaster. It ran 4 election cycles on Repeal Obamcare.

    Switching to Never Mind is path to minority.

  226. jason says:

    They ran on repealing it for years.”

    No, they ran on repeal and REPLACE.

  227. Tina says:

    My strategy was allow it to collapse on its own and executive orders nit to enforce it. The insurance companies will leave each state. One more year and its done with. No need to invest in anymore rime if the phony rs will not repeal.

    Cut the phuqion fundinf for it. Use the power of the purse, ryano and ky drunk. Or face your jobs.

  228. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 19, 2017 at 11:20 am
    Phuq yeah, call the phony rs out, primary challenge them, and no $$$$.
    They ran on repealing it for years. All,lies.
    Traitors.

    – Not that you would know this, but Portman and Murkowski just won. They aren’t up until 2022. Capito isn’t up until 2020.

    But maybe if your boy, fired NYPD cop, Cupcake Cardillo posts another picture of a handgun, they’ll suddenly get scared and fall in line.

  229. jason says:

    huq yeah, call the phony rs out,”

    Ok, let’s start with Rand Paul.

  230. Tina says:

    Withhold $$$ from the fake and phony rs. Btw, i predicted this for years. The Rs woukd go intoma fetal position and woukd not do it, theynwanted the campaign issue onlynand had no intentiins to get rid of it.

    Phony Rs.

  231. Tina says:

    I know you love obumbkercare, much like muh russia , mafgie, and the wp.

    Go onuq off drat

  232. Tina says:

    Mynscenario, not giving another dime tomthe phony rs. Phuq the rnc, ryano, ky drunk, etc,

  233. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 19, 2017 at 11:24 am
    Withhold $$$ from the fake and phony rs. Btw, i predicted this for years. The Rs woukd go intoma fetal position and woukd not do it, theynwanted the campaign issue onlynand had no intentiins to get rid of it.
    Phony Rs.

    – You also predicted Comey will be indicted.

  234. Tina says:

    Repeal,and then replace was my choice. Replace would not hapoen right away.

  235. Tina says:

    No such thing, he should be though, but nice try at diverting drat troll.

  236. Tina says:

    Obama brought the Muslim Brotherhood into the WH, MSM was silent.

    Trump and Putin have coffee at G20, mass MSM hysteria.

  237. Jonesy says:

    GOP pushing for Wisconsin LT Governor to run against Baldwin

  238. Tina says:

    FOX & friends @foxandfriends
    ·
    2h

    U.S. Postal Service in hot water with watchdog group for appearing to let its employees do campaign work for Hillary Clinton

    Nithing to see here. All of msm and federal agencies colluded, but we are concerned with the russian hoax. Because never trumpers got bogus dossiers.

  239. Jonesy says:

    Paris Jackson endorses Jenner for Senate in California

  240. Jonesy says:

    251. Tina, I can verify. Was in a Major city downtown last fall to complain about a lost package. Many employees had Hillary Buttons.

  241. Tina says:

    Mayhem Kelly likeky iut at nbc realky soin.

    She is terrible but the murdoch socialists will take you back.

  242. Tina says:

    That is such a violation of the hatch act., jonesy. I reported several for wearing camoaign buttons during my career.

  243. NYCmike says:

    jason’s posts exemplify why Republicans can’t get things done.

    He keeps repeating “the battle was lost” and I agree with him.

    I reply “but the war was NOT won, and this is how we can win it (gives examples)”.

    He then repeats “the battle was lost”.

    I guess the Civil War should have ended at the Second Battle of Bull Run/Manassas.

  244. NYCmike says:

    “Mayhem Kelly likeky iut at nbc realky soin.”

    -She will take NBC’s $$ and go away.

    Great job on her part!

    Happy for her, happy that NBC wasted $$.

  245. Tina says:

    The union lost a lot of battles., but they had oeople that could fight, the rs have nobody.

  246. Cash Cow TM says:

    Riddle me this:

    In the proposed NEW health are plan are any of these addressed?
    ______________________________
    –sell across state lines?

    –health plan is portable and goes with the employee when worker switches jobs from company to company?

    –annual tax/fee if NOT have health care stay or go?

    –allow people to chose cafeteria plans where they do or do not want this or that covered?

  247. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I have not seen roaches. I am more concerned about suburban coyotes.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/main-line-coyotes-stalking-pets-in-danger-20170718.html

  248. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV CD 3 candidates to fill the seat Cong. Jenkins is leaving…

    –Huntington mayor, Steve Williams (D)

    Plus:

    Other Democrats who’ve already announced campaigns in the 3rd Congressional District include Senator Richard Ojeda (D-Logan, 07) and Paul Davis, general manager of the Tri-State Transit Authority in Cabell County.

    Among Republicans, Rick Snuffer from Raleigh County and Delegate Rupie Phillips (R-Logan, 24) have launched runs, according to previous MetroNews reports.

    Last week, Dr. Ayne Amjad, a Beckley physician, told the Beckley Register-Herald she planned to change her party affiliation from Democrat to Republican before entering the 3rd District race.

    Expect more to announce…
    ______________________

    WV CD 2 also is attracting a lot of candidates….

  249. Bitterlaw says:

    What was found on this date in 1799? (DW will probably know).

    The Rosetta stone. Walt was instrumental in translating the hieroglyphics since he had worked as a scribe for several pharaohs. He said King Tut was a decent guy.

  250. Wes-sexy says:

    I guess the Civil War should have ended at the Second Battle of Bull Run/Manassas.

    I agree.

  251. jason says:

    Is Paris Jackson someone I should know?

    Or is it like Wobbie’s favorite pollster Little Lord Fauntleroy?

  252. Jonesy says:

    264. LOL. Micheal Jackson’s daughter

  253. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/celena-sylvesteri-hurricane-irene-drowning-new-jersey-court-of-appeals-20170719.html

    Sad case but I think the Court was correct. If you drive during a hurricane, bad things can happen to you. Assumption of the risk and comparative negligence can be strong defenses to lawsuits.

  254. jason says:

    Repeal,and then replace was my choice.”

    My choice was never to have approved Obamacare.

    Elections have consequences.

  255. Jonesy says:

    258. Union had Grant and Sherman. Grant was like Eisenhower, united and got things done.

    sherman was a killer and a scumbag, but a great war general.

    GOP has nothing even close. LOL

  256. Trump says:

    The Republicans never discuss how good their healthcare bill is, & it will get even better at lunchtime.The Dems scream death as OCare dies!

  257. Big E says:

    Need sixty votes to pass the above. Something to run on for the above challengers though.

  258. jason says:

    sherman was a killer and a scumbag, but a great war general.”

    Personally, I prefer generals who are killers.

  259. jason says:

    I think they should have convicted Obama, who promised the seas would stop rising in 2008.

  260. jason says:

    He keeps repeating “the battle was lost” and I agree with him.’

    Good, finally NYC agrees the battle was lost, i.e. there is no going back on pre-existing conditions for example.

    The “War” in this case is to at least have a better system.

    But thanks to the deadenders, the War was lost too.

  261. NYCmike says:

    “But thanks to the deadenders, the War was lost too.”

    -Exactly. Give up, like squishes usually do.

    We’ll keep working on building up that backbone, I won’t give up on you.

    We’ll make a Gump out of you yet!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-MCPa_3rU

  262. Bitterlaw says:

    The problem with only repealing Obamacare is that millions of people will lose insurance that they currently have. Some might be able to get new policies but the insurance companies are not in business to lose money and the premiums will be sky high. They are not just going to reinstate the policies that were in effect in 2009.

  263. Cash Cow TM says:

    When have people in our lifetime been denied health care?

    I thought hospitals could not deny health care services?

    And what happens to the people who are currently covered by medicaid expansion who were not previously covered by medicaid?

  264. Tina says:

    So, a lie by rs not to repeal, despite running in it?

  265. Paul says:

    Politically, I wouldn’t mind the Republicans accomplishing repeal and then they will own the ensuing chaos and be accountable to the angry mass of voters.

    Personally, I don’t want repeal so that I can keep my family’s insurance for a few more years.

  266. Bitterlaw says:

    I am not opposed to repealing it.

    I am also not blind to the idea that millions of voters are going to be angry if there is no replacement plan.

  267. Bitterlaw says:

    Cash Cow – hospitals cannot deny coverage. However, a hospital could tell me that their doctor is not going to prescribe insulin for me until I show up in an ambulance with ketoacidosis.

  268. Tina says:

    They can replace it down the road, bl. Not right away and include the between state purchasing.

  269. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – If I had to vote as a Senator, I would vote to repeal. I would then hope that I was not up for re-election until 2022.

  270. Bitterlaw says:

    As Jason says, elections have consequences.

    Votes also have consequences.

    Look on the bright side. Even if 2018 is a disaster for the GOP, we still have Gorsuch and even if all hell breaks loose in 2020, the earliest that Hillary could be President would be January 20, 2021. A lot of hell would need to break loose for that to happen.

  271. HHR says:

    283 That poll is wrong. Fake news.

    Wait. We like it. Never mind.

  272. Tina says:

    Gotsuch fine.

    Piglosi not fine.

  273. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump needs to realize that setting deadlines for Congress reforming health care is a bad strategy; its time for a deliberate process that results in a good plan, that is then fully explained to the American people — then Congress can vote on it.

  274. Trump says:

    Ha ha ha, Sdc, good one.

    7 years was not long enough.

  275. Trump says:

    Sh$t smells the same, Sdc, whether it is dem or rep sh$t.

  276. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats are heading straight into a chaos. There party is badly divided, Pelosi & Hillary have lower poll numbers than Trump. Having a weak opponent is not an advantage when your even weaker.

  277. Trump says:

    But they have better poll numbers than Ryan or McConnell. So there’s that.

  278. NYCmike says:

    San Diego,

    That is exactly why repeal should have been done in the first weeks of this administration, and then EACH AND EVERY ISSUE/MANDATE brought up in individual bills, with all of the legislative findings to be aired out to the American consumer. Each mandate has a cost. Let’s examine each one individually.

    Let’s NOT throw in the towel like some **coughcough** “Republicans”.

    The war is NOT over, unless we choose to roll over and accept it.

  279. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    288. Its interesting your a Trump supporter, but seem to not to like the current proposals to repeal Obamacare Believe you represent the opinion of a lot of Trump supporters; which is why Trump needs to move forward in a very deliberate manner.

  280. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    292. The question is whether the total repeal of Obamacare is supported by the voters, prior to bringing a replacement forward.

  281. Trump says:

    You are talking process, not product.

    No amount of process excellence is going to remove the absurdity of Obamacare 2.0

  282. Trump says:

    That is why it polls worse than Obamacare 1

  283. Trump says:

    Philosophically, gop seems to think that its bureaucrats are better at managing the millions of choices of individuals than dem’s bureaucrats.

  284. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    292. Before you repeal Obamacare, which provides medical insurance to millions of Americans, shouldn’t you have a replacement ready?

  285. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    297. You have a point. That is why I think the medical and insurance stakeholders should be at the table helping to draft the replacement.

    This looks too much like a political ping pong match affected tens of millions of Americans.

  286. Diamond Jim says:

    CCC

  287. Trump says:

    Repeal Obamacare, effective date July 2019. Or 2020, if you prefer. (Remember had 3+ years of getting started.)

    Let market adjust in meantime.

  288. Trump says:

    It’s not rocket surgery.

  289. Trump says:

    To clarify 301, Obamacare had number of years after passage, to be put into effect.

  290. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We wouldn’t have these problems if we could resurrect Ronald Reagan. He surrounded himself with highly competent people, than could communicate their policy initiatives in layman’s terms.

  291. Trump says:

    GOP could communicate its policies if it had policies worth communicating.

    When your policies are designed to screw your constituents while kowtowing to your moneybags, it is better not to have clear communications.

    Remember, Trump did not have any trouble communicating his message in layman’s terms.

  292. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    305. “Remember, Trump did not have any trouble communicating his message in layman’s terms.”

    Then maybe he should give explaining how he wants to change Obamacare a try? Whatever the proposal is seems to be changing on an almost daily basis.

  293. Tina says:

    They coukd repeal now, and work on a better replacement.

  294. George says:

    The Trump Train for Health Care Reform is loaded up and raring to go. Chief Engineer Trump says: “All aboard and full steam ahead.” Obamacare will soon be a forgotten bad memory.

  295. jason says:

    -Exactly. Give up, like squishes usually do.

    We’ll keep working on building up that backbone, I won’t give up on you.”

    Zzzzzzz… moron talk.

    You won’t give up on all or nothing, I get it.

    And so far you have nothing.

    I must admit, you are successful in getting nothing.

  296. jason says:

    Wow, George, where did you get that sh-t you are smoking?

    Really high grade!

  297. Bitterlaw says:

    Poster Trump does not support Trump. He just hates everybody.

  298. jason says:

    They coukd repeal now, and work on a better replacement.”

    They could repeal now AND have a better replacement.

    The problem is that there aren’t enough votes for a better replacement. They only have 51 votes to get 50 from. Rand Paul would never vote for anything because it won’t get him on TV.

    So some senators, and I don’t blame them, want to see the replacement first before voting for repeal.

    So the all or nothing folks won. Nothing.

  299. jason says:

    Poster Trump does not support Trump. He just hates everybody.”

    Right. He figured Trump was going to lose big and take the GOP down with him. He was on record pre-Trump as saying only Rubio was a viable candidate. And several times here he said he didn’t care who won as long as the GOP was decimated.

    When the GOP didn’t get destroyed he pretended to be a Trump supporter so he could try for round two.

    He still sees Trump as a vehicle to destroy the GOP. And he may have a point.

  300. Bitterlaw says:

    Since we know Corey lurks, let’s ask Corey’s views on Poster Trump.

  301. jason says:

    he war is NOT over, unless we choose to roll over and accept it.”

    LOL

    Why don’t you repeal all the other entitlements too while you are at it.

    The main battle of this war is over. The view that the government is now responsible for providing insurance to the uninsured has won. Its the first step in the push to win the view that the government needs to provide free health care to everyone. THAT war is still going on but we are losing.

    And while the GOP argues over the war they have already lost, they are at risk of losing more wars.

  302. mnw says:

    Nice new batch of ‘sex robot’ stories on Drudge today.

    Without Drudge, I would be poorly informed about this important new technology.

  303. NYCmike says:

    “You won’t give up on all or nothing, I get it.”

    -What do you mean by “all or nothing”?

    I am looking at a government that is increasingly intrusive in how an individual gets to deal with their doctor, and in each encroaching step, it adds a layer of cost, complexity, and loss of freedom.

    I would like to lessen that intrusiveness.

    Is that wrong?

  304. jason says:

    Did Corey show up?

  305. NYCmike says:

    “Why don’t you repeal all the other entitlements too while you are at it.”

    -There is a bit of a difference between these “entitlements”. With SS and Medicare/Medicaid, there is a line item deducted every paycheck which, supposedly, funds those programs.

    Obamacare has no such mechanism, despite what Chief Justice Roberts says.

    Again, if there were only 2 options available, I could try to understand your hostile attitude.

    BUT, since there is more than 2 options, I find your hostility short-sighted, weak, and foolish.

  306. Tina says:

    Us ends covert activity to oust assad.

  307. jason says:

    Is that wrong?”

    No.

    But again, elections have consequences. And the consequences were that Obamacare passed and SCOTUS signed off on it. A huge entitlement was implemented and millions of people who were uninsured are now insured. Only deadenders thought this was going to be reversed, forgetting that this type of entitlement never gets taken back anymore that you are going to do away with SS or Medicare.

    However, it could be made LESS intrusive and MORE market friendly and LESS bureaucratic.

    But people like you wouldn’t settle for that, it was all or nothing.

    So now you have as you have so nicely put “a government that is increasingly intrusive in how an individual gets to deal with their doctor, and in each encroaching step, it adds a layer of cost, complexity, and loss of freedom”

    Enjoy it.

  308. jason says:

    Tough day for the Stolzfus family:”

    As Amos says, you can’t choose your cousins.

  309. Tina says:

    Wishful thinking, the country club wing wont repeal it.

    That includes the main chicklet, the alaska sea porker, and caput.

    Probably, the arizona rino twins too.

  310. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey did appear briefly a few days ago. HE proclaimed his genius as a prognosticator of elections. he sort of ignored 2016.

  311. Tina says:

    JUST IN: Rod Rosenstein says Comey broke FBI policy by leaking memos to press http://washex.am/2u98Vnp

    Uh oh.

  312. jason says:

    Again, if there were only 2 options available,”

    You mean Ted Cruz’s “plan” that wouldn’t attract 10 votes?

    Why not the jason plan, that would have the same chance, zero?

  313. NYCmike says:

    “But people like you wouldn’t settle for that, it was all or nothing.”

    -“People like you”?

    What does that mean?

    Is Susan Collins one of those “people”?

    Was a vote ever held in the Senate?

    Thanks, we all know the answer.

    The Freedom Caucus holding out and then voting for their bill made it LESS intrusive, MORE market friendly, LESS bureaucratic. The 3 Ladies of the Left/Right/Left in the Senate would NOT accept their bill.

  314. Tina says:

    Fedral records act

    Leaking classified information to the fake media.

    Leaking executive privilege too.

  315. jason says:

    I hope Rod Rosenstein is somebody, no offense to Rod Rosenstein….

  316. NYCmike says:

    “That includes the main chicklet, the alaska sea porker, and caput.”

    -They would NOT accept a bill LESS intrusive, MORE market friendly, LESS bureaucratic.

    You know, like the one pushed by “deadenders”.

  317. NYCmike says:

    And Cruz, and Paul, and Lee

  318. jason says:

    -“People like you”?

    What does that mean?”

    It means people like you.

    And the freedom caucus morons since you morons love company.

  319. Tina says:

    2 at ag, jason.

  320. jason says:

    And Cruz, and Paul, and Lee{

    Paul wouldn’t vote for Cruz’s plan, it didn’t have his name on it.

    So ok, it would get 2 votes.

    My plan would probably get 0 votes.

    Sue me.

  321. Tina says:

    I think all of those 3 would vote for repeal, ny,

  322. jason says:

    hat includes the main chicklet, the alaska sea porker, and caput.”

    Rand Paul was the first to announce he would not vote for it.

    What description do you have for him?

    This should be good.

  323. Tina says:

    He wilk not vote for repeal and immediate replacement, but would,support repeal and later on, replacement?

  324. jason says:

    I’m searching for all the posts where NYC attacked Rand Paul for not voting for a “LESS intrusive, MORE market friendly, LESS bureaucratic” bill.

    Strange, can’t find them.

    Must of gotten deleted by the Russians.

  325. Wes says:

    Trump keeps bringing up Heller’s no vote. I wonder if that may be a strategy to ensure Dems can’t attack Heller for backing a bill unpopular in his state.

  326. jason says:

    They have had what, 6 years to work on the replacement?

    The issue is not the timing, its getting 50 votes for ANY replacement.

    So the people who think having a replacement is important are not going to jump into the black hole first and hope for rescue later. Later needs 50 votes too.

    I don’t blame them.

  327. jason says:

    rump keeps bringing up Heller’s no vote.”

    What vote was that?

  328. Wes says:

    Rand Paul is ghe scion of the family that made deadenderism cool for awhile in the GOP, Jason.

    Thus, Mikey considers Paul to be as above criticism as Chuck Schumer.

  329. Wes says:

    Heller is saying he plans to vote no on the GOP healthcare bill, Jason.

  330. jason says:

    “The Freedom Caucus holding out and then voting for their bill made it LESS intrusive, MORE market friendly, LESS bureaucratic.”

    Nah, what it just made it impossible to pass the Senate.

    Which is probably what most of them wanted.

  331. Wes says:

    Isn’t it amazing how Mikey can never find time to criticize Democrats or Deadenders, Jason?

  332. jason says:

    “Thus, Mikey considers Paul to be as above criticism as Chuck Schumer.”

    Well, I understand about Chuckie.

    After all, he was funded for decades by Trump, so it would be unbecoming for NYC to attack him, lest that be perceived as an attack on Trump too.

  333. Senators Buck, Miller, COD, Akin, and Mourdock says:

    Isn’t it amazing how Mikey can never find time to criticize Democrats or Deadenders, Jason?”

    Lay off Mikey, wes, we love him.

  334. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/potus-trump-warns-senator-heller-face-obamacare-wants-remain-senator-video/

    I think he is talking about this. Notice Heller is seated next to trump in the video. Cnn reported it like gateway did, but i think trump was joking.

  335. Tina says:

    More uh oh.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/uh-oh-former-un-amb-samantha-power-emerges-key-figure-obama-unmasking-scandal/

    Wtf is the un ambassador unmasking people for? That is not her job duty.

  336. Tina says:

    Breaking

    The House Intelligence Committee, which is spearheading the investigation into these efforts, has issued subpoenas for Power and other top Obama administration figures, including former national security adviser Susan Rice, as part of congressional efforts to determine the source of these leaks.

    Subpoenead you tube and rice

  337. Tina says:

    Jebot world is crashing down in his drat allies.

  338. NYCmike says:

    “Nah, what it just made it impossible to pass the Senate.”

    -I see some at HHR, once again, reverting to the “Trump” handle M.O. of name-calling and throwing out statements that can’t be proven (“Which is probably what most of them wanted.”).

    Once again, the ones with no logical arguments revert to form, and are outspoken, nasty, and go to name-calling. MD’s spirit is alive and well. And the ones acting like him are just as wrong.

  339. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    The bill that passed the House – what did the Freedom Caucus add to the bill which made it unacceptable to the squishes in the Senate?

    Do tell!

  340. NYCmike says:

    “I’m searching for all the posts where NYC attacked Rand Paul for not voting for a “LESS intrusive, MORE market friendly, LESS bureaucratic” bill.”

    -Sorry, I could be wrong, but was the House bill actually ever brought up for a vote?

    Or did Rand Paul say he would not vote for the bill crafted in the Senate, as opposed to the one crafted in the House?

    Which one did he say he would NOT vote for?

  341. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Apple, Google and Facebook alone have about a half trillion dollars in mostly offshore cash, unable to be taxed. But if we just give them a “tax holiday” they might bring it to the U.S. and invest it.

    Can the “progressive” political views of the tech industry be explained by the fact they do not have to pay for the policies they support?

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/19/investing/apple-google-microsoft-cash/index.html?sr=twCNN071917apple-google-microsoft-cash1013AMVODtopLink

  342. NYCmike says:

    All of a sudden jason and Wes are quiet…..hmmmm

  343. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump?Verified “The Republicans never discuss how good their healthcare bill is, & it will get even better at lunchtime.”

    Think of how much even better it will be after dinner.

  344. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Maybe, as the leader of the Republicans, Trump should be taking the lead in talking about how good their health care bill is?

  345. jason says:

    Wtf is the un ambassador unmasking people for? That is not her job duty.”

    For Dems, cause above duty!

  346. jason says:

    Which one did he say he would NOT vote for?’

    All of them. He has not supported any bill except his own joke of a bill.

    And of course, the same one Collins said she would not vote for.

    Except I can’t find the post where you were critical of him.

    They must have been deleted by the Russians together with the ones where you criticized Rand Paul for the “blowback theory” that we are responsible for 9/11 and how a nuclear Iran is not “a threat”.

  347. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 19, 2017 at 4:51 pm
    Maybe, as the leader of the Republicans, Trump should be taking the lead in talking about how good their health care bill is?

    – I’ve made that case for months. It’s fallen on deaf ears here. Big policy goals like health care and tax reform require presidential leadership, both in selling the legislation and settling differences. Others seem to think the legislative process can proceed regardless of what a president does.

    The problem for Trump, now, is his approval rating is 40%. He doesn’t have the cache or popularity to effectively pressure wayward Republicans. It’s a shame he spent his first six months squandering whatever honeymoon he might have gotten by engaging in the sideshows we’ve seen.

  348. NYCmike says:

    Thanks for the information, jason.

    Susan Collins and Rand Paul are now both “deadenders”. The 2 of them, along with Murk, Capito, Portman…..

    Glad that was cleared up.

  349. jason says:

    Oh and btw, was the “house bill” ever going to be an option in the Senate?

    No, of course not, the Senate was always going to revise it so it was irrelevant if Rand Paul supported it or not.

    These minor details always escape NYC.

  350. NYCmike says:

    Oh geesh, jason even going back to the “blowback” st uff…..yikes, that is the BIG tell that he is really losing the argument.

  351. jason says:

    “That includes the main chicklet, the alaska sea porker, and caput.”

    So what does that make Rand Paul?

    Still waiting….

  352. jason says:

    h geesh, jason even going back to the “blowback” st uff…”

    Why, has Rand Paul disowned his statements?

    Pray tell, show me where…

    I don’t want to do him an injustice.

  353. NYCmike says:

    “Oh and btw, was the “house bill” ever going to be an option in the Senate?”

    -Got it.

    You blame the changes made by the Freedom Caucus to be the reason for the squishes to NOT VOTE for their bill, NOW you say that it was NEVER an option.

    The truth is that the Freedom Caucus expanded the freedoms of Americans, which made the bill less likely to get past the squishes.

    YET, you say you are for “a bill LESS intrusive, MORE market friendly, LESS bureaucratic.”.

  354. jason says:

    There is an expiration date on Rand Paul’s lunacies?

    Who knew?

  355. NYCmike says:

    He has NOT disavowed them, nor have I. I always thought he was incorrect about that theory, stated that many times, yet you keep bringing it up, as if I agree with him.

  356. NYCmike says:

    jason says he wants a bill that expands freedom, is less intrusive than Obamacare, is less bureaucratic, and is MORE market-friendly.

    The Freedom Caucus bill expanded freedom, made Obamacare less intrusive, less bureaucratic, and MORE free-market friendly.

    YET, jason says they are the problem.

  357. jason says:

    The Freedom Caucus (which of course doesn’t really believe in freedom unless its their version) had no interest in ever seeing any bill passed. None. Zilch.

    You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

  358. Tina says:

    Congress had 7 years to prepare for repeal, thry used it as a campaign prop with no intentions tomrepeal now, replace later.

    They are liars and deserve losing the keadership, if this subpar work continues.

  359. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 19, 2017 at 5:10 pm
    jason says he wants a bill that expands freedom, is less intrusive than Obamacare, is less bureaucratic, and is MORE market-friendly.
    The Freedom Caucus bill expanded freedom, made Obamacare less intrusive, less bureaucratic, and MORE free-market friendly.
    YET, jason says they are the problem.

    – Politics is the art of the possible. Whatever the HFC wants is almost certainly never going to be acceptable to moderate Republicans who have to run statewide rather than in gerrymandered districts. And with a slim margin in the Senate, the moderates have to be won over.

    Take 80% now, hope it proves successful with the public, get 60 Senate seats in 2018, and then pass a full repeal that is truly conservative in 2019.

  360. jason says:

    he Freedom Caucus bill expanded freedom, made Obamacare less intrusive, less bureaucratic, and MORE free-market friendly.”

    Has it been enacted?

    No, because it was all or nothing.

    The Freedom Caucus got what they wanted all along, nothing.

    Tremendously successful. Send them some free Hillary mugs if you have any left.

  361. Tina says:

    Freedom caucus said to pass the senate bill. The leftist rs said no. They will not compromise. They are deadenders.

    Piglosi will take power as will chuck schumah.

  362. Tina says:

    But i predicted this, first, we need the house, then the excuse was we needed the house and senate, then we neded the house, senate, and the presidency.

    Trump says to repeal now and rs choke.

  363. jason says:

    Take 80% now, hope it proves successful with the public, ”

    LOL

    Are you serious. 80%?

    These people wouldn’t take 95%.

  364. Tina says:

    Call the vote for repeal now and see where it goes.

    Replace later.

  365. Tina says:

    Drudge:

    Will they botch taxes next?

    Of course, the ky drunk and ryano cannot do much.

  366. Jonesy says:

    363. That is a good point Mike. Many here use the term Deadenders for those on the Far Right.

    But what about the moderates like Collins, Caputo etc.. who saved obamacare? Are they Deadenders?

  367. Jonesy says:

    379. Call the vote is right Tina. Expose the Republicans who want to keep Obamacare

  368. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 19, 2017 at 5:16 pm
    Take 80% now, hope it proves successful with the public, ”
    LOL
    Are you serious. 80%?
    These people wouldn’t take 95%.

    – If you’re frustrated with the HFC over healthcare, just wait until it’s time to deal with the debt ceiling and the budget.

  369. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    July 19, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    363. That is a good point Mike. Many here use the term Deadenders for those on the Far Right.
    But what about the moderates like Collins, Caputo etc.. who saved obamacare? Are they Deadenders?

    – Collins’ approval rating was recently measured in the 70% range.

  370. Tina says:

    Jonesy, they will do not that.

    No bxlls.

  371. Tina says:

    I do not see how the ky drunk stays on. They ned to remove him asap.

  372. Tina says:

    JUST IN: Trump has declined invitation to speak at NAACP convention – White House

    Good move.

  373. NYCmike says:

    “379. Call the vote is right Tina. Expose the Republicans who want to keep Obamacare”

    -I don’t here jason calling for this, which I would be fine with.

    Call for a vote, get them on record.

    The Freedom Caucus crafted a bill which PASSED the House.

    “Deadenders” must have a LOT of gerrymandered districts.

  374. Tina says:

    So, you tube and samantha powes will not testify?

    The un ambassador should not have the power to unmask.

  375. NYCmike says:

    “– If you’re frustrated with the HFC over healthcare, just wait until it’s time to deal with the debt ceiling and the budget.”

    -As Republicans, do they want MORE spending, and increased budgets for each dept?

    Oh, they want LESS…….yes, as Republicans, I can see how that is BAD!!!!///

  376. Tina says:

    Run eric holder 20

    THIS IS A D+11 POLL SO SHE IS ACTUALLY LOSING – 2020 Poll: Kamala Harris 41, Donald Trump 40 – Breitbart

  377. Jonesy says:

    391. None of these pretenders will actually run in 2020, Tina. They are gearing for 2024. they do not want to face a incumbent with a good economy

  378. Jonesy says:

    388. Another good point. Meadows got it passed, sans Paul Ryan. Deadenders do not get things passed.

  379. Jonesy says:

    Tina, have to give McConnell credit for holding firm on Scalia’s seat.

    They were a few GOP Deadenders like Collins and Mark Kirk who wanted a vote on Merrick Garland

  380. NYCmike says:

    “Tina, have to give McConnell credit for holding firm on Scalia’s seat.”

    -Agreed, and have given him credit for that.

  381. Tina says:

    9 years and he does only one thing right.

  382. Tina says:

    Richard Grenell. Wilk be ambassador to,germany.

    He is gay and a great pick.

  383. Tina says:

    Grenell was un ambassador under bush. Imbet he did not unmask or wiretap.

  384. Trump says:

    “Will they botch taxes next?”

    Is the pope Catholic?

  385. Diamond Jim says:

    CD

  386. Jonesy says:

    Roberts and Kennedy water down Travel Ban even more today. Gorsuch, Thomas, Alito wanted to reject all of the Hawaii Judge’s order.

    Roberts is compromised Tina.

  387. Tina says:

    Well with bush sc picks, one really good, and one not so good.

  388. Tina says:

    Looks like gorsuch is an adequate replacement for scalia.

  389. Robbie says:

    Clear your schedules. Don Jr. and Paul Manafort will appear in open session before the Judiciary committee on July 26.

  390. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 19, 2017 at 5:57 pm
    “Will they botch taxes next?”
    Is the pope Catholic?

    – That question is up in the air with Bergoglio.

  391. Jonesy says:

    Kennedy was Reagan

  392. Trump says:

    Retard,

    Nobody cares, except haters like you and the DC media.

    Like everything else, you fizzle out.

  393. Jonesy says:

    404. Nothingburger

  394. Trump says:

    How did that Comey testimony turn out, moron? The one you jerked off on for days with your DC media buddies.

    Wile coyote level moron.

  395. Tina says:

    Will not watch that dog and pony show. I will only watch if and only if they call roger stone.

  396. Tina says:

    I understand that the investigation has not proven anythung other than congress critters are dumber than I thought.

  397. Trump says:

    Congressional investigation is an oxymoron.

    Has any congressional investigation turned up anything that was not known beforehand? Ever?

    Congressional investigation is intended for slackers to pontificate and generate some media face time?

  398. Tina says:

    I just sent a tweet to richard grenell and asked him as the former un ambassador, did he ever unmask, like samantha powers, the architrct for the failed blow up the me policy.

  399. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Call the vote for repeal now and see where it goes. Replace later.”

    Dive into the pool NOW. We will teach you how to swim LATER.

  400. NYCmike says:

    “Dive into the pool NOW. We will teach you how to swim LATER.”

    -SanDiego,

    That is NOT a fair comparison, as the free market would KNOW HOW to set up an insurance market without the Obamacare mandates.

  401. Tina says:

    We had 7 years of practice. 7 years and cannot tak off the training wheels.

    Piglosi and schumah will not moderate themselves, when they return to leadership.

  402. Waingro says:

    Trump FINALLY rolling up his sleeves and using the bully pulpit to get something done. Great to see.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TqmPIklpRk&feature=youtu.be

  403. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 19, 2017 at 6:41 pm
    Trump FINALLY rolling up his sleeves and using the bully pulpit to get something done. Great to see.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TqmPIklpRk&feature=youtu.be

    – I watched this earlier and have to say it was what I had hoped to see from Trump all along. I thought he was effective and jovial as well. It’s a much better image than the one he’s projected on Twitter. Had he done this kind of thing from Day 1, I think healthcare would be done and tax reform would be close to done or done as well.

  404. Trump says:

    Always wrong, retard Robbie.

  405. Phil says:

    Fox poll today said 60% want to keep Obamacare but improve it. The number who want to appeal it and start over is 33%.

    LOL. Republican senators read polls. Why are we still discussing revival of the Republican bill? You are a Republican senator and you are going to walk the plank in the face of those numbers?

    Obama laughing his ass off, just like he’s laughing his ass off about the Iranian deal. Stuck with both of them America and not a damned thing we can do about it. Obama remaking America. Mission accomplished.

  406. Phil says:

    At least Trump had the gonads to pull us out of Obama’s Paris Accords. I guess that is something.

  407. Trump says:

    Why would GOP object to the Iran deal?

    It’s the GOP senate that approved it, after all.

  408. Trump says:

    60 percent approve of Obamacare because they see the alternative crapola.

    On Election Day, percentage who thought Obamacare went too far vs those who thought did not go far enough? 47-30.

  409. NYCmike says:

    That video shows a “lifetime Democrat” (Bitterlaw’s words) stating that “single payer will bankrupt the nation”.

    Will the wonders of this world ever cease!

  410. Phil says:

    On the Iranian Deal my point exactly. Corker is fine with it. Vast majority of rank in file Republicans are not, including me. Well, the hell with us. Plays great at the Georgetown dinner parties and that is what really matters.

  411. Trump says:

    Majorities in both the house and the senate opposed the Iran deal.

    Yet it is law.

    Corker magic!!!!

  412. Todd McCain says:

    Wild.

  413. NYCmike says:

    jason to defend Corker in 3….2….1…..

  414. Robbie says:

    The New York Times just posted an interview they had with Trump today. In it, Trump said he never would have appointed Sessions as AG had he known Sessions would recuse himself.

  415. Robbie says:

    Allahpundit?
    @allahpundit

    “Made in America” week canceled in favor of “Knife Your AG” week

  416. Trump says:

    Sessions is useless idiot.

    He recused himself, without telling his boss, because democrats were having a meltdown.

    He needed to grow some balls, instead he tried to please Schumer.

    All he has to show for his time in office is a renewed push on failed drug war, and asset forfeiture by police.

    Trump should fire him aaap.

  417. Trump says:

    Asset forfeiture without conviction, mind you.

  418. Robbie says:

    Jeff Sessions was the first Senator to endorse Trump. He gave up his safe Senate seat to work for Trump. I really can’t understand why Trump would throw him under the bus like this.

  419. Robbie says:

    John McCain has been diagnosed with aggressive brain cancer.

  420. Trump says:

    Becaus he is a useless idiot who doesn’t understand what the role of AGnis.

    Promoted way bayond his Peter principle level.

  421. Tina says:

    If that article is from the ny slimes, it is fake news,

    Just an fyi.

  422. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 19, 2017 at 8:06 pm
    If that article is from the ny slimes, it is fake news,
    Just an fyi.

    – Hello! Trump gave the NYT an interview. They posted the audio. Take your dunce cap off.

  423. JC says:

    @stevebruskCNN
    BULLETIN – Senator John McCain has been diagnosed with brain cancer after pathology was performed following this weekend’s surgery
    8:01 PM – 19 Jul 2017

    Matt Pearce?Verified account @mattdpearce
    Sanjay Gupta on CNN says John McCain has a malignant tumor in his brain.
    —————-

    Terrible news. I wish him well.

    That aside, I hope he resigns.

  424. Tina says:

    I want to see a transcript.

  425. JC says:

    Jeff Sessions has been the single biggest disappointment all year.

    There is literally no crime that Obama’s swamp creatures can break that Sessions will decide to take action. The seat might as well be empty.

  426. Tina says:

    That is horrible news about sen. Mccain,

  427. Tina says:

    He shoukd not have recused himself. Terrible error. If he charges conedy, the jebot/drats will say, unfair, you did not recuse yourself.

    The sp is a joke, it was brought about on illegal grounds.

  428. Tina says:

    Rnc fundraising for june, $13.4 million, record setting.

  429. Robbie says:

    The press release from McCain’s office says imaging done by the Mayo Clinic shows all of the tissue affect was resected last Friday.

    Fingers crossed they caught it early and he will recover fully and radiation and chemo.

  430. JC says:

    The recusal was the dumbest thing ever.

    ‘Oh yeah, I met a Russian official for 10 seconds in a public meeting full of hundreds of people and dozens of cameras. Better recuse myself.’

    Once again the deep state wins.

  431. Paul says:

    McCain will be a definite ‘no’ on repeal.

  432. Trump says:

    I can understand a recusal if there is a valid reason.

    The only reason for Sessions recusal was that Dems were mean to him during confirmation hearings.

    Nobody has shown a scintilla of evidence for any law-breaking. Yet the AG decides to go inside his office and shut his door. Total incompetence.

  433. Trump says:

    Ethics really suck. And anyone who goes along with them is a loser. Sessions is a loser.

  434. Tina says:

    Sara A. Carter @SaraCarterDC
    Next week Senate Judiciary Committee calls Glenn R. Simpson (Fusion GPS)
    Paul J. Manafort, Donald J. Trump, Jr. to testify.

    Fusion guy will not testify, just an fyi. That way the senators wil do nothing about it. Weak knee republicrats.

  435. Bitterlaw says:

    Very sad news about McCain. I will always be proud that I had a chance to vote for him. I was fortunate to vote for 3 war heroes – Bish, Sr., Bob Dole, and John McCain.

  436. Phil says:

    Don’t see eye to eye with McCain on a bunch of issues over the years. Doesn’t matter – a true American patriot all the way.

  437. Phil says:

    If McCain were to resign, does the Republican governor appoint a replacement? Anyone know?

  438. Robbie says:

    A quick review about the type of cancer McCain has is not promising. The press release says imaging shows all of the affected tissue was removed. Hopefully, this means the tumor was found early. Otherwise this type of tumor apparently grows tentacles and it very difficult yo get rid of. The survival rate with treatment is usually about 1-2 years.

    McCain’s tough so hopefully he can beat this.

  439. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 19, 2017 at 8:57 pm
    If McCain were to resign, does the Republican governor appoint a replacement? Anyone know?

    – Yes, but the replacement would then run for the remainder of McCain’s term at the next general election. If he did that now, it would be 2018.

  440. Phil says:

    Never mind Looked it up. The appointment in Arizona must be a member of the previous senator’s party who serves out the remainder of his term.

    Was curious.

  441. lisab says:

    the key to entitlements is offering better deals on better programs.

    so for example on social security you could tell people that if they give up social security they could — as an alternative — pay the social security tax AND also invest up to say $100,000 in a tax free account for their own retirement account. That is, they still have to pay in the system and in return they can save some amount every year tax free. now most people, probably 80% would not be able to do this, but 20% would and they would pay in to the social security system but get no social security benefits in return.

    win win for everyone

  442. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 19, 2017 at 9:01 pm
    Never mind Looked it up. The appointment in Arizona must be a member of the previous senator’s party who serves out the remainder of his term.
    Was curious.

    – Does that mean he wouldn’t need to stand at the next general election after the appointment?

  443. Phil says:

    Robbie, yes, that is how I interpreted it.

  444. lisab says:

    on insurance congress should just stop trying to repeal obamacare and just start passing single issue bills.

    one bill that allows cross border selling

    one bill to allow catastrophic policies. they could be priced say higher than their true cost, but less than obamacare policies. with the difference used to subsidize medicaid.

    the medicaide policies need to be focused on care from clinics and “health stops” instead of giving welfare people primary care physicians

    although an exception could be made for those who retired at 65, so that retirees on medicaide would still get primary care, since they worked for it

  445. Trump says:

    Recusal unfair. Sad. Sessions was supposed to get me out of this mess. Now he can’t. Very sad.

  446. Phil says:

    Check that – in rereading it I believe the appointed would have to stand again in 2018.

  447. Tina says:

    Yeah, person will have to run in 2018.

    Serves out the existing term.

  448. Trump says:

    Muehler is a leftist anti-American. Very sad.

  449. Trump says:

    Why isn’t anyone looking into Chelsea Clinton’s dealings with Russia?

  450. Trump says:

    Stealing someone’s handle is not cool, fake Trump.

  451. Trump says:

    Chelsea shot a DNC staffer because of Russia. Why isn’t the fake news dealing with that?

  452. PresidentPaul! says:

    Drump drops Seth Rich while talking about Sessions referencing a man being shot in the back

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500513449402.jpg

    “Seth Conrad Rich, 27, worked for the committee for a little more than a year. He was shot in the back in July near his home in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C.”

    NYTimes: Citing Recusal, Trump Says He Wouldn’t Have Hired Sessions

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/trump-interview-sessions-russia.html

    “There wasn’t much I could say about Hillary Clinton that was worse than what I was already saying,” he said. “Unless somebody said that she shot somebody in the back, there wasn’t much I could add to my repertoire.”

  453. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Unless somebody said that she shot somebody in the back, there wasn’t much I could add to my repertoire.”

    Kek

  454. Trump says:

    While I agree with 468, it was not posted by me. Get your own handle

  455. Trump says:

    McCain needs to resign and Gov needs to appoint a patriot right away.

  456. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie-
    Trump gets two scoops and two meetings

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500514512076.jpg

  457. Trump says:

    Handles are so lame. Sad that Soccer Mom is so upset. I am the real Donald. Not Soccer Mom.

  458. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So they can vote to repeal, but it doesn’t mean they REALLY will do it.
    __________

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Wednesday the Senate will vote on a motion next week to move ahead with a bill to repeal and or replace Obamacare that could easily be amended.

    “I think we have two options here, I think we all agree it’s better to both repeal and replace, but we could have a vote on either, and if we end up voting on repeal only, it will be fully amendable on the Senate floor and if it were to pass without any amendment at all there’s a two-year delay before it kicks in… so the takeaway from what I’m telling you is no harm is done from getting on the bill,”

  459. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security

    Apparently the IRS knows about a bunch of millions of illegals stealing peoples SSN/felony identity fraud but they can’t report them to Homeland Security.

  460. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is like a mad hatter party.

    Am beginning to have flashbacks of NEVERTRUMP nostalgia.

  461. Trump says:

    Probably the Jeb $ucker stealing my handle, he should be banned. Gives him more to think about brokered conventions too

  462. Tina says:

    So, according to wikileaks, dnc staffers wrote questions for wolfie to ask trump,about russia.

    There, we hace found collusion

  463. Trump says:

    No one talks about Jeb. Only talk about Trump. Good.

  464. Tina says:

    Wolfie dancing at the drat convention.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DBloom451/status/887814246125494272/video/1

    A jebot defended this.

  465. Tina says:

    I think mitxhie shoukd enjoy his alcoholic beverage and call it a night.

  466. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    478. You understand that a some of those working with fake social security numbers are paying into the system, and will never collect payment.

  467. Tina says:

    Must say a very powerful statement from mccains daughter.

  468. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    482. Things are bad enough, and then you have to mention Jeb.

  469. Wes says:

    Tina goes from saying McConnell is a RINO to calling him a drunk.

  470. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 19, 2017 at 9:48 pm
    Probably the Jeb $ucker stealing my handle, he should be banned. Gives him more to think about brokered conventions too

    – No. I’ve never stolen anyone’s handle and I haven’t stolen yours either. I’ve never used a parody name either.

  471. Wobblie says:

    OK I stole it har har

  472. Trump says:

    Sessions needs to go. Don Jr for AG

  473. Robbie says:

    I listened to the audio of Trump’s interview with the NYT. To my ear, it’s sounds like he’s looking for a reason to fire Mueller. If Trump does fire Mueller, it will be lit like never before.

  474. Trump says:

    Only in your fantasy, retard.

  475. Trump says:

    Only you and the fake media care about mueller.

  476. Trump says:

    Wasn’t Comey your savior a few weeks ago?

    What happened to him?

  477. Redmen4ever says:

    Senator McCain is a patriot. He will die, as he has lived, a patriot. He is in very bad condition right now. I am not a medical doctor, so I can speak freely. The tumor is described as invasive. This means it has spread. Even if it were operable, it could not be entirely removed. Tentacles reach out into the grey matter. You just can’t remove enough grey matter to be sure to remove all of the tentacles. Radiology and chemotherapy are problematic for controlling what remains of the tentacles. Check it out:

    http://isjsite.hocalwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/GeneTherapy_2307.png

    Complicating everything is that the doctors cannot initiate treatment until the incision made to remove the blood clot that formed, is sufficiently healed. Depending on how much the tumor has spidered, and what it will do in the next month, the tumor may already effectively be inoperable.

    Back up a bit, and McCain’s recent poor performance at hearings can easily be attributed to problems he is having. Hindsight is always 20-20 in these matters. Yet, he was every 4 months seeing very fine doctors, and they didn’t see this until this blood clot developed.

  478. Wes says:

    That sounds bad about McCain, Redmen.

  479. Walt says:

    McCain’s brain tumor type…

    Not good.

    Same kind my late brother in law had.

  480. Trump says:

    “Yet, he was every 4 months seeing very fine doctors, and they didn’t see this until this blood clot developed.”

    Thanks Obamacare…

  481. Diamond Jim says:

    555555

  482. Trump says:

    Just for record, most of the posts under my moniker in the last couple of hours is from the fake fake trump, not me.

  483. PresidentPaul! says:

    485
    How many of those millions are voting (for Hillary and democrats to tax and spend) in the elections?

  484. Tina says:

    Is that a full audio or transcript? Or just only 1 min audio?

    Inmy opinion, the manner trump spoke out as did rosenstein, the mueller invesrigation is winding down. Re,ember, I have right about muh russian drom the beginning.

  485. Jose says:

    Amigos I vote for Senora Hillary jajajaja

  486. Trump says:

    NYT? Fake News!

  487. Tina says:

    It will wind down quicker if rosenstein amends the special prosecutor scope. He has that power to do so.

  488. Tina says:

    It still looks like somebody from team obumbler, one of the leakers and or ine of the unmaskers, wiretappers, will be charged soon.

  489. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 19, 2017 at 10:12 pm
    “Yet, he was every 4 months seeing very fine doctors, and they didn’t see this until this blood clot developed.”

    Thanks Obamacare…

    – Sanjay Gupta of CNN, who is a friend of McCain, got permission to speak with McCain’s doctors. He reported that surgeons removed a 5 cm blood clot which they believed formed within the last week.

  490. Tina says:

    Rosenstein still,supports the firing of comedy.

  491. Tina says:

    Or maybe sessions unrecuses imself, says sp was triggered byna nut job.

  492. Robbie says:

    Ronald Reagan’s son.

    Michael Reagan?
    @ReaganWorld
    1h1 hour ago

    Someone that Trump respects needs to tell him to STFU!Quit attacking your home team.@realDonaldTrump

  493. Trump says:

    This whole handle thing is extremely unfair.

  494. Trump says:

    Michael Reagan should run for president, or shut the fu ck up.

    The home team is out to stab trump, payback is a bit6h.

  495. Trump says:

    GOP s not trump’s home team, never has been.

  496. PresidentPaul! says:

    Hillary Framed Trump on Russia

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4711832/Evil-Hillary-Clinton-framed-Trump-family-Russia.html

    The National Enquirer claims that Hillary Clinton and her supporters are trying to bring down the Trump family by making it seem that they colluded with Russians

    -This was allegedly done with help from the group Fusion GPS according to the tabloid, who claims the Democratic party hired the company to get Trump dirt

    -Fusion GPS is the same group that was allegedly responsible for putting together the dossier of Trump ties to Russia that was largely false or unproven

    -The Enquirer claims that Fusion previously worked with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskyaya, and suggests she setup the meeting with Don Jr as a trap

    -‘These guys had a vested personal interest and ideological interest in smearing Trump,’ said a source of Fusion

  497. Tina says:

    Formthe mccain medical situation, dr.milton wolf reported day or so ago that mccains medical issue was worse than what we were being told.

  498. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie 512
    CNN and Paul Ryan only get one scoop not two.

  499. Tina says:

    Bubu, i reported that a week ago. Fusion was hired by the drat, specifically her thighness.

    They used a british foreigner, whose sources were russian,

  500. Tina says:

    a 235-190-1 vote, the House again defeated a motion to force Trump to release his tax returns.

    Good god, is this what ryano is doing in the house?

  501. Tina says:

    Lets hold house hearings on bush blowing up the kevees in louisiana.

    Whoops been there and done that

  502. Tina says:

    In edited audio excerpts from an interview with New York Times reporters”

    So, no unedited audio or transcript?

    Please ny tumes.

  503. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie are you ready to Rock?

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500517892988.png

  504. Tina says:

    Carlos,slim needs to hire new bloggers.

  505. PresidentPaul! says:

    America ready to Rock

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500487157027.jpg

  506. Trump says:

    I like people who don’t contract brain cancer…

  507. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie, quick
    forward the torpedo room

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500443328024.jpg

  508. Bitterlaw says:

    Fake Fake Trump sounds like Fake Trump. Maybe Fake Trump could hire Fake Fake Trump to work nights and weekends at HHR so he could take time off.

  509. Trump says:

    Maybe that is already happening. But without any payment.

  510. Bitterlaw says:

    If Donald Trump came to Tina’s house with the full recording of an interview AND then read the transcript of it to her, she would still call it fake news.

  511. BayernFan says:

    2020 polls lol. I remember 1973 when Gallup and Harris were polling Spiro Agnew, Charles Percy and Nelson Rockefeller against Ted Kennedy, Scoop Jackson, and George Wallace.

  512. Tina says:

    No bs bitterlaw, imwant tomread the full transcript, or listen to the entire recording, not a 1 minute edit.

  513. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    20m

    Im not saying this “is” the case but the whole Trump blowup v Sessions has all the earmarks of another Trump deception ahead of an offensive

    Jebots to be triggered soon?

  514. Tina says:

    Remember, bannon you are innthe dog house, pkay nice, and stay on.

    Lol.

  515. BayernFan says:

    Assuming nothing happens with the ACA and it remains exactly as it is….can we expect health insurance markets to continue their collapse? Soon, there will be a dearth of insurance and more and more people will have to pay their own health care costs out of pocket. If that happens, I expect that health care prices will collapse as well, and this may provide an opportunity to enact legislation that treats insurance the way it was meant to be….as INSURANCE…not a means to pay as much as possible.

  516. PresidentPaul! says:

    Anatomy of Hillary’s Russian trap

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500522180098.jpg

  517. JC says:

    BayernFan says:
    July 19, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    Assuming nothing happens with the ACA and it remains exactly as it is….can we expect health insurance markets to continue their collapse? Soon, there will be a dearth of insurance and more and more people will have to pay their own health care costs out of pocket. If that happens, I expect that health care prices will collapse as well, and this may provide an opportunity to enact legislation that treats insurance the way it was meant to be….as INSURANCE…not a means to pay as much as possible.
    —————————-

    Or, more likely, the media and dems will blame Republicans for the collapse and start demanding single payer. And the GOP, as feckless as they are proven to be, just might go along with it.

  518. JC says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    July 19, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    Rock for Senate

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500521863833.jpg
    ——————–

    You know, I have a feeling that Mr. Rock might be our best shot at defeating Stabenow. Controversy aside, he’s a native Michagander and has done a lot of tours and fundraising for our troops. I would like to see some polls.

  519. BayernFan says:

    539….you may be right. Republicans have never been known for hanging tough. That’s why GOP voters force Trump on them. Maybe he can help.

  520. PresidentPaul! says:

    #451
    We give them Rock

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500502299861.jpg

  521. JC says:

    BayernFan says:
    July 20, 2017 at 12:06 am

    539….you may be right. Republicans have never been known for hanging tough. That’s why GOP voters force Trump on them. Maybe he can help.
    ———————-

    I hope so. Trump’s a fighter, which is exactly what we need.
    https://townhall.com/columnists/evansayet/2017/07/13/he-fights-n2354580

    With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

    During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”

  522. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump ends funding to CIA’s anti Assad rebels a move likely to please Muh Russia

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500528087640.png

  523. Trump says:

    We’ll give Assad the chemical weapons he needs to finally defeat ISIS.

  524. Redmen4ever says:

    Regarding Syria: there are two U.S. operations. One is the CIAs and the other is the DODs. The CIA is supporting Al Qaida in Syria on the theory that they’re better than ISIS. Thus crazy idea goes back to Benghazi and is the brainchild of Hillary “the world’s smartest woman” Clinton and Qata. The DOD is supporting the Kurds and other allied with them, which have formed an autonomous region in northern Syria not so different from Iraqi Kurdistan. As to why Trump would cut off the CIA operation, two things come to mind. Because it is now as it has always been stupid. Or, it’s a quid pro quo. With the prospect of complete victory over ISIS in sight, we’re agreeing to stop trying to overthrow Assad and they’re agreeing to recognizing the Kurdish autonomous region within the borders of Syria.

  525. Tina says:

    Speaking of Muh russia, we need some more loonville stories today. Paging jebot loons.

  526. NYCmike says:

    “Paging jebot loons.”

    -I thought that said “Paging jebot loins.” for a second.

    I was like “Whoa, Tina must have had her limoncello’s spiked with Russian vodka!”

  527. NYCmike says:

    I keep looking for the post where Wes and jason show the link to information about the bill pushed by the HFC and passed in the House is shown to GIVE GOVERNMENT MORE POWER THAN OBAMACARE……….has anyone else found anything to back up the idea that the House bill is worse than Obamacare?

    Please link to it, so that I can understand why the Senate, mainly Murk, Collins, Capito, and Paul won’t vote YAY on that bill.

  528. NYCmike says:

    I did forget something – prayers to John McCain, stay strong to fight this next battle, I hope your body can still fight the new enemy you are encountering at this time.

    Also, to Meghan McCain, that was a beautiful statement that you put out about your Dad yesterday.

  529. NYCmike says:

    “Cruz last week agreed to alter the language in the amendment so that all consumers would be included in one risk pool.”

    -ALL or NOTHING!

  530. NYCmike says:

    “Cruz originally backed a plan he authored with Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, that would have created two insurance pools — one for high-risk consumers and another for everyone else. But in an effort to keep moderates on board, Republican leaders insisted on keeping Obamacare’s single risk pool requirement, which lost Lee’s vote.”

    -So, LEE dropped out because the “moderates” wanted it their way, instead of 2 options.

    ALL or NOTHING!

  531. NYCmike says:

    Cruz, the “Showboat Deadender”, wrote legislation with another Senator, conferred with members from the rest of the caucus, CHANGED his approach to accommodate them, but may only get 10 votes, according to “very wise animal-loving men” at HHR.

    ALL or NOTHING!

  532. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The eeyores at Red Racing Horses are now certain,after the announcement of McCain’s unfortunate illness, that the Democrats will now win the Senate in 2018.
    They achieve it by winning both Arizona seats and Nevada and incur no losses in the 24 Dem. seats to be contested.
    They are something else!

  533. Jonesy says:

    RRH all had Handel losing too sheeple.

    Moshem and Tekzilla are awful

    I think the right will back off Flake now, and concentrate on a open seat

  534. Wes says:

    RRH always declares Dems to be invincible. I take nothing in their predictions seriously anymore. Expecting RRHers to say Republicans can actually win is like expecting Il Mikey to criticize Democrats or Deadenders. It’s just not going to happen.

  535. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #557
    RRH is the perfect blog for Robbie!
    Maybe HHR and RRH can make a fair trade–Robbie to RRH for Indocon(recently booted from RRH).
    I agree that the Democrats at that blog never pick a winner.For them, hope is eternal.

  536. Tina says:

    I always stay here for election and polling news, legsl insurrection for,legal items, and a few other blogs. I only post here, however.

  537. Tina says:

    Is rdel still at rrh? He comtributed or commented there?

  538. Jonesy says:

    Agree Wes. Ducey is very popular and is on the ticket for Gov in 2018, so that helps GOP ticket in AZ.

    McSally would be a great choice as she is strong in Left leaning Tucson, but would leave a swing house seat open.

  539. Jonesy says:

    Prayers for Senator McCain. Always respected his service to country, but hated his politics.
    wish him well

  540. Jonesy says:

    Redel still at HHR Tina, and is still pretty good

  541. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    Yes, he is the occasional voice of reason at RRH. LOL

  542. Tina says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-kills-16-regulations-for-every-new-one-crushing-2-for-1-goal/article/2629177

    I am sure that the jebots or any other republican 2016 candidate other than possibly scott walker, would have cut regulations to the degree that trump has.

  543. Tina says:

    Thanks. I do not go to that site.

  544. Wes says:

    Sheeple, Indocon wass booted from RRH for advocating euthanasia and ethnic cleansing. I’m not sure we want him here.

  545. JC says:

    Wes says:
    July 20, 2017 at 7:36 am

    RRH always declares Dems to be invincible. I take nothing in their predictions seriously anymore. Expecting RRHers to say Republicans can actually win is like expecting Il Mikey to criticize Democrats or Deadenders. It’s just not going to happen.
    —————————

    Many at RRH, like the GOP establishment, still view the world through the left wing media prism. They are too easily swayed by liberal narratives.

    Trump talking to Putin in an open summit with 20 world leaders present? Scandalous, the media decries!

    And the GOPe squishes nod there head in agreement, wondering out loud why Trump would be so foolish as to talk with another world leader in a meeting of world leaders, thus bringing needless criticism from the media.

    They really don’t understand that the media’s singular focus is advancing their left wing causes.

  546. Tina says:

    If sp Mueller is going into deutch banks loans with trump, a fishing expedition, Imcan see trump going postal. Given the conflicts of interest involving mueller, specifically with recuasal, and the fact that the sp was formed under false pretenses, i do not see how this charade can continue.

    Best to have the doj target leakers.

  547. Jonesy says:

    Mueller’s friendship with Comey, and his hiring of pro Hillary lawyers discredits him.

  548. Jonesy says:

    Tina, I like Sessions, but he has become toothless.

    Why has he not gone after Comey on the leak to the Columbia Professor?

  549. Redmen4ever says:

    Back in 2008, when Trump cajoled Deutches Bank into converting its construction loan into permanent financing of Trump Chicago, he was a Democrat and was supporting Hillary Clinton. So, it wouldn’t surprise me that some hanky panky was involved in that. BTW Mueller was Director the FBI back then, and was probably wiretapping it in real time.

  550. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump was a Democrat? Don’t tell JC and Jonesy. It would hurt their narrative that Trump is a great Republican.

  551. Trump says:

    Trump was a democrat. Trump is a great republican.

    Both can be true.

    I know, beyond your limited comprehension ability.

  552. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #568
    I did not know that. Instead of Indocon how about trading the pre-2016 MD from RRH to HHR for Robbie? MD was a rebel-rouser,at times at RRH, and,under different handles, was permanently removed.
    I do know that on the eve of the Montana Congressional Special Election when Gianforte(R) had a kerfuffle with a reporter, Tekzilla posted at Daily KOS blasting Red Racing Horses as a terrible blog with detestable people. Some of the conservatives posted that Tek had violated RRH policy and should be permanently exiled.
    So what did RRH do? It removed the posted complaints and suspended Tek for merely three(3) days.
    The Dems. are a privileged class on RRH.

  553. JC says:

    Bitter, you really have nothing intelligent or incitement or even interesting to say. Your name suits you.

  554. Bitterlaw says:

    Wait until you see his $1 Trillion infrastructure plan. Then we can discuss how “Republican” he really is.

  555. Trump says:

    As republican as Paul Ryan and John boehner, who routinely passed $4 trillion budgets.

  556. jason says:

    Paul Ryan has been a Republican his whole life. Comparing him to Trump, who has been a “Republican” for about 5 minutes, is a joke. Same for Boehner.

  557. Trump says:

    GOP is a joke.

  558. NYCmike says:

    “Wait until you see his $1 Trillion infrastructure plan. Then we can discuss how “Republican” he really is.”

    -Are you turning into “CG”?

    Any such plan starts in the House, controlled by people who claim to be Republicans. All they have to do is stand on principle…….yeah, I know…..

  559. Trump says:

    Lifelong republicans, and still $4 tr annual spending.

    It’s funny.

  560. jason says:

    LOL

    Trump will propose 1 trillion boondoggle, NYC will blame the House.

    I love this place.

  561. NYCmike says:

    Republican – a person who says the right thing on the campaign trail, then does something markedly different when in office, because….”deadenders”?

  562. Robbie says:

    According to Trump in his interview with the NYT, Napoleon lost to the Russians because of extracurricular activities the night before. That is a new take on history.

  563. NYCmike says:

    Correction to jason’s incomplete statement:

    “Trump will propose 1 trillion boondoggle, NYC will blame the House……**if they look to pass what he proposes.**”

    No need to Thank me.

  564. jason says:

    On the other hand, Trump does have at least one grandstanding deadender figured out:

    “President Donald Trump reportedly singled out Republican Sen. Rand Paul during a dinner with GOP senators on Monday night, criticizing the libertarian-leaning lawmaker for his opposition to the Senate’s healthcare bill.

    After the bill was sunk by opposition from the conservative and moderate wings of the Republican Party, Trump complained that Paul had gone out of his way to publicize his discontent with the bill, and he derided the senator’s TV appearances as unnecessary grandstanding, according to a New York Times report. Paul was not at the dinner.

    Trump said that while it was one thing to vote against the bill, it was another to “go on all of the Sunday shows and complain about it,” according to The Times.”

  565. Trump says:

    Lol, the house will pass trillion dollar boondoggle, and it is trump’s doing.

    Cognitive dissonance at its fines.

  566. jason says:

    Of course “libertarian leaning” is BS.

    Rand Paul is no libertarian. Or Republican or conservative for that matter.

  567. Trump says:

    He has paperwork that shows otherwise.

  568. jason says:

    f they look to pass what he proposes.**”

    Breaking:

    NYC admits Trump will propose $1 trillion boondoggle.

    Hallelujah! the truth will set you free.

  569. Trump says:

    Survey: Americans are happier than they have been in years.

    Except assorted nevertrumpers, Dems and their running dog media lackeys.

    Cruising to reelection.

  570. Robbie says:

    Trump was right when he said he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any support. Some of the comments I read here every day prove that.

  571. Trump says:

    Wow, talk about being in a fog.

    Trump proposed $1 tr year ago. Loser just catching up.

  572. Trump says:

    Trump, always right.

    retard robbie, always wrong.

  573. Robbie says:

    Mueller might not last the day.

    Bloomberg reports Mueller has expanded his investigation to Trump’s business transactions.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-20/mueller-is-said-to-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions

  574. jason says:

    He has paperwork that shows otherwise.”

    I see. So Paul Ryan is not a Republican but Rand Paul is a Republican because he registered as one?

    Soccer Moron elevates moronic thought to new levels.

    (I know, one would think that is impossible, but…)

  575. jason says:

    Some of the comments I read here every day prove that.”

    I said there are brainwashed idiots who can’t think for themselves that believe any MSM garbage they read.

    Some of the comments I read here every day proves that.

  576. jason says:

    According to Trump in his interview with the NYT, Napoleon lost to the Russians because of extracurricular activities the night before. That is a new take on history.”

    Were you there to be able to dispute this firsthand?

    Walt, what say you?

  577. Robbie says:

    Idaho Republican Mike Simpson on the record about Trump.

    “I don’t even pay any attention to what is going on with the administration because I don’t care. They’re a distraction. The family is a distraction, the president is a distraction,” complained Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). “At first, it was ‘Well yeah, this is the guy we elected. He’ll learn, he’ll learn.’ And you just don’t see that happening.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/20/gop-lawmakers-despondent-as-recess-approaches-240731

  578. jason says:

    I agree with Trump, Sessions should never have recused himself.

    It opened the door for Rosenstein to appoint a special prosecutor when there was no reason to do so.

    It was a serious mistake.

  579. jason says:

    Zzzzzzz… Wobbie still loves that fake news, like Simpson has supposedly changed his mind about Trump.

    Simpson is a never Trumper who said he would believe Comey over Trump months ago.

    And:

    “Rep. Mike Simpson, who had never endorsed Trump but had said he would vote for him, also said last Saturday that he could not support Trump.

    “We’re getting some kickback from it, as I suspected we would,” Simpson told the Statesman editorial board Friday. “But at some point in time, as toxic as these campaigns have become … somebody’s got to stand up for civility and decency and say enough is enough.”

  580. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:58 am
    I agree with Trump, Sessions should never have recused himself.
    It opened the door for Rosenstein to appoint a special prosecutor when there was no reason to do so.
    It was a serious mistake.

    – It’s a tough call. Sessions worked for the campaign. Seems it’s a pretty hard sell for a guy who worked for a campaign to oversee an investigation into that campaign.

    Regardless, whether it was Comey or Mueller, the investigation would have continued. That’s really what bothers Trump.

  581. jason says:

    Wobbie’s Breaking News:

    “Idaho Republican Never Trumper who has always attacked Trump continues to attack Trump”

    Things must be slow over at Wobbie’s anti-Trump research center.

  582. jason says:

    – It’s a tough call. Sessions worked for the campaign. Seems it’s a pretty hard sell for a guy who worked for a campaign to oversee an investigation into that campaign.”

    MSM garbage. Not a tough call at all.

    Sessions got intimidated because the MSM tried to imply normal contacts with foreign governments including Russia were somehow sinister. He should have told them to GFTs.

    It would only have been a conflict if Sessions was involved in any aspect of helping the Russians interfere with the election. Barring that, there was no reason to recuse himself.

    The Dems bluffed and he blinked.

  583. Robbie says:

    How does someone oversee an investigation into the campaign on which he worked and not expect there to be serious concerns about impartiality?

    Whether Sessions recused or not, this investigation would have continued. There’s no way Sessions could have stopped any of this.

  584. Robbie says:

    One thing I do think is true is Sessions might have been able to continue to oversee the Russia investigation had he not badly fumbled questions about Russia in his confirmation hearings.

  585. Jonesy says:

    575. Your little narrative falls apart, as you forgot Reagan was once a liberal democrat.

    13 years here, Bitter, and you have not learned anything

  586. Phil says:

    Mueller expands probe into Trump business dealings.

    You gotta be kidding me. What’s next? Expanding investigation into his bathroom habits? Seriously, Mueller and his merry band of Clinton and Obama donator lawyers doing exactly what we all predicted. No perameters whatsoever. None. Pick out a guy and find something whatever it takes. Dig into everything. Release everything a month before the 2018 elections no doubt.

    Thanks Sessions. Trump could fire him, but what good would that do now?

    Bottom line. Washington elites will get Trump in the end……for something. We all see what is happening here. Banana republic coup. I am calling it what it is. Democrats plus never Trumpers Washington Republicans. Screw em. Blatant lynching. Nothing more nothing less.

  587. Jonesy says:

    602. Politico is fake news

  588. Jonesy says:

    Phil, dealings in Biz before he was POTUS should not be on the table.

    But who knows if this is true anymore. Fake news says Mueller is doing this or doing that…?

  589. Phil says:

    I guess obstruction of justice was too much of a reach for even Washington elites. Time to look into business dealings. Can’t wait to see what they dive into next. I bet it will be creative.

  590. Bitterlaw says:

    610. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Reagan explained his switch to the GOP. He then campaigned for Republicans, spoke on behalf of Republicans, and served 2 terms as Governor of California as a Republican.

    The “Trump is like Reagan” analogy is pathetic and laughable.

  591. Phil says:

    I don’t have any particular allegiance to Donald Trump but even Trump is owed a fair shake.

    Question. Which did the MSM work harder at – protecting and covering up for Obama or trying to bury Trump?

    Tough question isn’t it.

  592. Jonesy says:

    615. Your answer is ignorant. Bitter.

  593. Jonesy says:

    Phil, this whole Pence fantasy by many on the right is just plain stupid. I like him, and he did a great job on the campaign trail, but the those Trump voters who sat out 2008 and 2012, would do the same in 2020

  594. Jonesy says:

    Reagan was a socialist in the 1930-40’s, who supported the New Deal. He wised up when the unions turned on him in 1945 as SAG President.

    Trump has never been that far left. Get a grip Bitter

  595. NYCmike says:

    “NYC admits Trump will propose $1 trillion boondoggle.”

    -Yes, probably like a year ago, or more, when he yapped about such things during the campaign.

    And my stance has always been this: Congress will ignore him, and work on what they want to work on.

    THEY HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT……just in case you were unaware of that POWER.

  596. Jonesy says:

    Wow. OJ is 70? Let him out, he served hard time

  597. gameboy says:

    #611 Why is this Meuller thing even happening. Who has the power to put an end top it?? Makes no sense to me, especially with the GOP controlling congress and the executive office with the Supreme Court being in their favor as well. Trump should put an end to it ASAP, and let the chips fall where they may. The whole thing is a joke……

  598. NYCmike says:

    Spines needed in D.C.

  599. NYCmike says:

    “Republicans by temperament play defense; they hold that line — or fail to hold it — and then fall back to work out terms that might make the situation a little less disagreeable than it was before. Republicans are never entirely unhappy with half a loaf. They think on how much less than half they could have gotten. The notion of wrestling away the whole loaf and digesting it happily in front of the Democrats inspires comparatively few Republicans. They’d rather deal — a preference that comes naturally to the business, front-office types who make the party their home.”

  600. NYCmike says:

    “The first is short-term. The GOP swore in blood to get rid of Obamacare. It starts to look as if a number of the oath-takers had their fingers crossed behind their backs. They didn’t mean make the blasted thing vanish; they meant get rid of the bad parts and keep the good ones (assuming any can be found). Which isn’t what they, or most of them, said. They should have interesting explanations to make at election time to customers — i.e., voters — who feel double-crossed. We can henceforth trust the GOP to — do what? Make more promises? With what effects?”

  601. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/07/20/nato-ally-turkey-threatens-to-reveal-more-top-secret-details-of-us-special-forces-in-syria/

    -Who complained about Trump and his Article 5 hesitance?

    The world is changing, quickly.

    Open your eyes.

  602. Jonesy says:

    Mike, it sounds like Collins, Murkowski, and Caputo our more worried about keeping Planned Parenthood flush, than repealing OCare.

    they all voted for Gorsuch,but you have to wonder if Harry Reid could have got them in line. He got 60 in 2009

  603. Jonesy says:

    Where is the fear for a GOP Senator? They just retire and take a lobbying job

  604. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    Wild monkeys take over in Florida

    And so it begins. ..

  605. Trump says:

    You really are stupid, with little English comprehension.

    Show me where I said Paul Ryan is not republican, idiot.

  606. jason says:

    Whether Sessions recused or not, this investigation would have continued. There’s no way Sessions could have stopped any of this”

    BS

    Had not Sessions recused, there would have been no independent counsel and while there would still be investigations, Rs would have controlled it.

  607. lisab says:

    Mueller expands probe into Trump business dealings.

    You gotta be kidding me. What’s next? Expanding investigation into his bathroom habits?
    —————————–

    special prosecutor is a really well paying job

    AND

    he can hire all his friends. many hillary supporters, that were expecting big money government jobs did not get them.

    expect the special prosecutor to be never ending.

  608. jason says:

    You really are stupid, with little English comprehension.

    Show me where I said Paul Ryan is not republican, idiot.”

    Okayy…

    “As republican as Paul Ryan and John boehner, who routinely passed $4 trillion budgets.”

    I can read moron really well, years of practice here with NYC.

  609. Trump says:

    The special prosecutor and all his buddies and staff get paid by the hour.

    Why would they stop?

  610. Trump says:

    Moron.

    Where does it say that Ryan is not republican?

  611. Trump says:

    Try again, dimwit.

  612. jason says:

    575. Your little narrative falls apart, as you forgot Reagan was once a liberal democrat.”

    Wow, this gets the prize for intellectual dishonesty.

    True, Reagan was a democrat (not sure how “liberal”) in his youth. But for starters the Democratic party of his youth was nothing like the Democratic party Trump belonged to.

    And Reagan had a long career as a conservative before he became President, and had two terms as governor of CA as a Republican.

    He didn’t switch parties at 60 and was not funding the majority leader from the other party up to a few years before running for President.

    Comparing Trump to Reagan is the ultimate falsehood.

    I am no longer anti-Trump, I am now even accused by idiots like Wobbie of being a Trumpista. I will support him where I can, and there is lots of issues to support him on.

    But like Reagan? No. Never. Nunca.

  613. jason says:

    Where does it say that Ryan is not republican?”

    “as Republican as Ryan…” implies Ryan is not really a Republican.

    If I say you are “as smart as NYC” believe me, I am not saying NYC is smart.

  614. Trump says:

    Moron, it means that Ryan is a republican, and x is the same as Ryan

    Stupid idiot.

  615. jason says:

    “There is a lot of issues”?

    I blame the Inca school system

  616. Waingro says:

    Has Mueller been fired yet?

  617. Trump says:

    Do you shi$ for brains, moron?

  618. jason says:

    But it was still better than wherever Soccer Moron pretended to study.

  619. NYCmike says:

    jason – the more he is wrong, the more name-calling he does.

    I love the smell of desperation in the early afternoon!

  620. NYCmike says:

    He doesn’t say I am smart, he just waits 3 years and then starts repeating what I had said back then, as if it was an original thought.

  621. lisab says:

    the congress has ZERO incentive to pass a reduced budget.

    generally any cuts will piss someone off. it is not like they like trump

    and they certainly do not support his ideas on reducing illegal immigration or getting rid of obamacare

    in fact the ONLY program congress would have bipartisan support on cutting is INS and border security.

  622. lisab says:

    Is 78-year-old “Auntie” Maxine Waters seriously going to make a run for the White House in 2020?

    Speculation is increasing as it’s revealed the California congresswoman and darling of Trump haters nationwide will be making an appearance in the early presidential primary state of New Hampshire on Sunday.

  623. lisab says:

    Game of Thrones producers want to make a modern show called Confederate, where the south successfully seceeded and kept slavery into the modern era …

    one problem … they did not know the south was run by the democrats at the time

    whoopsie!

  624. Waingro says:

    #650, sounds kind of like an offshoot of Man in the High Castle. Same concept.

  625. jason says:

    they did not know the south was run by the democrats at the time”

    At the time?

    What about 1963 … segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.. Alabama Gov. George Wallace.

    Or the Dem Majority leader in the Senate in the 70’s, Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of the KKK…

  626. jason says:

    Forward to 2001, when Byrd was still talking about “white ni–ers” on national TV.

  627. jason says:

    rump says:
    July 20, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    Do you shi$ for brains, moron?”

    You always know when soccer moron loses an argument, he immediately reverts to his fascination with bodily functions..

    He will be talking about puking in 3, 2, 1….

  628. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump has never been that far left. Get a grip Bitter

    Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton’s campaign accounts beg to differ.

    Trump’s statement in 2008 that “Hillary would be a great President!” also begs to differ.

  629. lisab says:

    “At the time? What about 1963 … segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.. Alabama Gov. George Wallace.”

    yeah … they did not know that so much …

    they wanted to run a show where the south is republican and has slavery and the north is democrat and is progressive.

    they have hit a snag …

  630. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is working on a series about what would have happened if the Spaniards had not conquered Peru. “Plant of the Llamas” is in pre-production. It has been slow-going since the llamas are in a bad mood.

  631. Wes-sexy says:

    lisab – That will be a great show. Finally a program that accurately depicts the mildly morally questionable practice of slavery.

  632. Bitterlaw says:

    Has anybody watched the show that is based on the plot that Germany won World War II? The US is occupied by Germans up to the Rockies and Japan occupies the West Coast. It is set in the 1960s. It looks interesting but I’m not a binge watcher.

  633. lisab says:

    i would love to have been in that meeting …

    producer: this will be great! everyone loves to watch hbo series, and we can show horrible scenes every sunday and have a special right before any elections …

    lisa: ummmmmmmmmmmm … i think we have a problem with the script.

    producer: what? this is perfect we can show how bad republicans are every week. we can even call the southern president, president trumper or something like that …

    lisa: ummmmmmmmmmm … you know lincoln was a republican right?

    producer: what is your point? they shot him and the civil war ended! jeeeeeez …

  634. Waingro says:

    #659, yup, Bitter that’s what I was referring to in #651: Man in the High Castle. I highly recommend it.

  635. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2017 at 12:37 pm
    Whether Sessions recused or not, this investigation would have continued. There’s no way Sessions could have stopped any of this”
    BS
    Had not Sessions recused, there would have been no independent counsel and while there would still be investigations, Rs would have controlled it.

    – How would Republicans have controlled this? Republicans in the House and Senate wanted nothing to do with this hot potato. They were relieved when a Special council was appointed because it meant they could deflect all questions to Mueller.

    And as Ann Coulter, of all people, noted today on Twitter, Sessions recusal had nothing to do with Mueller. Trump’s comments to Lester Holt prompted this when he said he fired Comey over Russia.

    Ann Coulter?
    @AnnCoulter 33m
    33 minutes ago

    Who’s going to tell Trump? It wasn’t Sessions’ recusal that led to Special Counsel; It was Trump’s own boasting to Lester Holt 2 mos later.

  636. Robbie says:

    Ronald Reagan was a liberal in the 1930’s and 1940’s as much of the country was. As he traveled the country in the 1950’s for GE though, he came to see liberalism wasn’t helping the workers with whom he met all of the time.

    Reagan’s views changed and he went all in on Barry Goldwater in 1964. In 1966, he ran for governor and became one of the state’s most successful leaders. After his governorship, he spent time writing commentaries on conservative viewpoints and traveling the country helping Republicans. He had been a conservative Republican for 25 or so years before he was elected in 1980.

    Donald Trump spent his life donating to liberal Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer. In 2011, he saw an opening in the Republican Party and used cynically used birtherism to make his mark.

    Comparing Reagan and Trump is disgusting, shameless, and an embarrassment.

  637. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, Waingro. I missed your post. I will check it out.

    I watched 20 minutes of Game of Thrones on Sunday. It was sloooooooooooooooooow. I don’t know if I can go back and watch 6 seasons of it to catch up.

  638. lisab says:

    the last game of thrones episode was the slowest i can remember

    most have much more going on

    usually bad people behaving badly

  639. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe the police dealing with you 40 times in 6 years is no big deal after all.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/crime/cosmo-dinardo-was-also-banned-from-holy-ghost-prep-20170719.html

  640. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – I want to be fair. Maybe it was just setting the stage for something exciting.

    It just made The Walking Dead seems like a fast-past action-packed thriller in comparison.

  641. NYCmike says:

    I love when people like Robbie use Ann Coulter to prove a point, once again showing how she is one of the people who always tells the truth.

  642. NYCmike says:

    http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/07/20/watch-pilot-of-small-plane-sticks-landing-on-ny-highway-pulls-over-for-police/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -Yes, one of my trucks went by this plane about a 1/2 hour later.

    Police kept traffic moving pretty good, he said, and we did not miss any deliveries or pickups.

  643. jason says:

    And as Ann Coulter, of all people, noted today on Twitter, Sessions recusal had nothing to do with Mueller. Trump’s comments to Lester Holt prompted this when he said he fired Comey over Russia.”

    Are you really that stupid?

    If Sessions had not recused himself, only HE could have authorized a special counsel. Congress had already refused to appoint any special committee.

  644. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:13 pm
    I love when people like Robbie use Ann Coulter to prove a point, once again showing how she is one of the people who always tells the truth.

    – When she’s right, she’s right. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

  645. lisab says:

    Virginia McDonald’s employee refuses to serve uniformed police officer

  646. jason says:

    Rosenstein might have used Trump’s comments as an excuse.

    Sessions would never have done that.

  647. ssq says:

    Who is Virginia McDonald?

  648. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:24 pm
    And as Ann Coulter, of all people, noted today on Twitter, Sessions recusal had nothing to do with Mueller. Trump’s comments to Lester Holt prompted this when he said he fired Comey over Russia.”
    Are you really that stupid?
    If Sessions had not recused himself, only HE could have authorized a special counsel. Congress had already refused to appoint any special committee.

    – And how do you know Sessions wouldn’t have done so after Trump fired Comey and then boasted to Lester Holt he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation?

  649. ssq says:

    Comparing Reagan and Trump is disgusting, shameless, and an embarrassment.”

    As Wobbie says, even a brainwashed blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.

  650. jason says:

    Thanks ssq, that was on the money.

  651. Blind squirrel says:

    I am tired of the constant reference to me finding a nut as if it is some kind of extraordinary achievement. I’m blind. I still have a nose. Do you think I just walk around hoping to bump into food? GFY.

  652. jason says:

    And how do you know Sessions wouldn’t have done so after Trump fired Comey and then boasted to Lester Holt he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation?”

    I would bet a million dollars.

  653. Robbie says:

    So the MSM scared Sessions into recusal, but the MSM wouldn’t have been able to scare Sessions into a special council after Trump boasted he fired Comey over Russia?

    Trump’s in this mess because of stupid things Trump has done. Blaming Sessions is just another example of Trump never being willing to take responsibility for anything.

  654. lisab says:

    WASHINGTON — The six teen members of a Burundi robotics team that went missing Tuesday night after a D.C. competition were missing for several hours before police were contacted, according to a statement from the organization that sponsored the competition.

    Two of the six teens crossed into Canada, D.C. police announced Thursday morning. Police confirmed the other four were not in danger, though did not say where they were.

  655. Brainwashed blind squirrel says:

    I am tired of being compared to Wobbie.

    We may be similar in outlook, but I am much better looking.

    GFYs.

  656. Trump says:

    What mess, retarded Robbie?

  657. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:30 pm
    What mess, retarded Robbie?

    – Oh, I don’t know. Maybe a special prosecutor who is investigating Trump for potential obstruction of justice, members of his campaign’s interaction with Russians, and his finances with Russian businesses.

  658. jason says:

    “Trump’s in this mess because of stupid things Trump has done.”

    No, that is unmitigated BS.

    He is in a mess because of partisan politics and a dishonest media and useful idiots like you who are too stupid to think for themselves.

    And yes, if Sessions had not recused himself, there would be no independent counsel. Sessions was already on record that it was unnecessary.

    And only a brainwashed moron like you would think it was a comment by Trump that would bring about an independent counsel. That was just an excuse.

    Trump didn’t need a reason to fire Comey. None. He could have said it was because he hated Comeys’ dog.

  659. Trump says:

    Anybody care about it, except haters like you?

  660. lisab says:

    reagan might not have been well liked by republicans today who do not want fair trade policies.

    reagan was a huge proponent of free trade, but only if it was reciprocal.

    “I believe that if trade is not fair for all, then trade is free in name only,” he said. “I will not stand by and watch American businesses fail because of unfair trading practices abroad. I will not stand by and watch American workers lose their jobs because other nations do not play by the rules.”

  661. I love Donald Trump says:

    I hope John McCain resign ASAP so a conservative can be appointed.

  662. Trump says:

    You hate trump regardless of anything.

    You will always do that.

    So who cares.

  663. Robbie says:

    And yes, if Sessions had not recused himself, there would be no independent counsel. Sessions was already on record that it was unnecessary.

    – And Rosenstein had the repeatedly said the same thing until Trump fired Comey and then boasted to Lester Holt he fired him over the Russian investigation.

  664. jason says:

    Of course Wobbie knows that firing Comey had ZERO effect on the investigation. ZERO. Comey was head of the FBI, but he wasn’t personally investigating anything. There is a team assigned to do that and it goes on whether Comey is there or not.

  665. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:34 pm
    You hate trump regardless of anything.
    You will always do that.
    So who cares.

    – And you’ll suck him off regardless of anything.

  666. Cash Cow TM says:

    Here are the opening lines of the first Cow Novel.
    What do ya think?
    **************************************************
    “Aftr he beached the frat fart raft near the reservation, a lame male meal was had at the Hopi IHOP.

    He takes his east seat to sate & eats teas.
    He has his dog Spot with him.
    He soon opts to stop Spot & post tops of pots.”

  667. jason says:

    Rosenstein in a holdover from the Obama administration, he has zero loyalty to Trump and was intimidated by your MSM friends. There was zero reason to appoint an independent counsel.

    To compare him to Sessions is ridiculous.

    Sessions would NEVER had called for an independent counsel.

  668. Trump says:

    Sucking Jeb off on a daily basis is what you are known for, retard..

    That’s what has retarded your brain.

    How does it feel to have Jeb’s dick?

  669. Robbie says:

    Trump didn’t need a reason to fire Comey. None. He could have said it was because he hated Comeys’ dog.

    – Yep, but Trump acted impulsively.

    He didn’t have an effective media strategy ready to defend his decision, suggested it was about the Rosenstein memo, and then changed his mind to say he was always going to fire Comey over the Russia investigation.

  670. jason says:

    love Donald Trump says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    I hope John McCain resign ASAP so a conservative can be appointed.”

    Zzzzzzz….

    I hope he stays as long as he wants to the office his constituents elected him to.

    He certainly has earned that right.

  671. Trump says:

    Did trump pussy-grab your mom, retard Robbie?

  672. jason says:

    Yep, but Trump acted impulsively.”

    Wow, that’s terrible…..is that the best you can come up with? Impulsively?

    You really are a joke.

    It didn’t matter how he “acted”, he had the right to fire Comey at any time, for any reason, including if he didn’t like his color of ties.

  673. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:38 pm
    Rosenstein in a holdover from the Obama administration, he has zero loyalty to Trump and was intimidated by your MSM friends.

    – Rosenstein was a holdover from the GWB administration and Obama was lobbied to keep him.

    Do better research next time.

    “President George W. Bush nominated Rosenstein to serve as United States Attorney for the United States District Court for the District of Maryland on May 23, 2005. He took office on July 12, 2005, after the United States Senate unanimously confirmed his nomination.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Rosenstein

  674. Wes says:

    Man in the High Castle is based on a novel by Philip K. Dick of Bladerunner and Total Recall fame. It’s a book–a series of paper leaves featuring writing between two covers–so Bitterlaw has never heard of it.

    In 1988, Harry Turtledove wrote a novel called The Guns of the South, wherein apartheid supporters from South Africa develop a time machine and arm Robert E. Lee’s army at Gettysburg with modern weapons to ensure the South won. Unfortunately for their own ends, the South Africans in the novel were as ignorant of history as Bitterlaw and like him failed to do any kind of research. Although a staunch supporter of the Confederacy, Lee was morally opposed to slavery and, upon assuming the Confederate presidency (in the book), banned the odious practice of human bondage. it’s amazing how Harry Turtle dove–a staunch liberal–is willing to do research on history while Bitterlaw–a virulently anti-Southern bigot–ignores history not fitting into his anti-Southern paradigm completely.

    Then again the books Turtledove read to determine Lee actually would have sided against slavery on moral grounds when in elected office are indeed books, so I’m not at all surprised at Bitterlaw’s ignorance.

  675. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    You really are a joke.

    – A joke is someone who spent 2015 and 2016 going after Trump daily only to turn around and support him at every stupid moment in 2017 simply because he won with an R next to his name.

  676. Trump says:

    Well, he deals with reality.

    Unlike your fantasies of brokered convention, Hillary 374, Jeb and assorted lunacies.

  677. Trump says:

    Trump win has literally broken your brain, such as it was, retarded Robbie.

  678. Trump says:

    Assuming that you had a brain to begin with, of course.

  679. Blind squirrel says:

    Wes says that I have never heard of something when I described the basic concept of the show. I just forgot the name.

    Pretty early in the day for the Wes to Delicate Flower transition. Maybe Tink is holding out on Wes and he is cranky.

  680. Blind squirrel says:

    I read several of Turtledove’s books. I got all the way into the run up to World War II and then decided it just wasn’t worth finishing the series.

  681. messy says:

    650&652.

    The Democratic party has changed since 1924. First off, there was the Al Smith wing, which is the Party of today, and the Dixiecrat wing, which is the Republican party of today. The Coolidge/Mellon wing of the Republican party, is now moribond, albeit powerful, and the Lindsey/LaFollette wing is now extinct.

  682. Blind squirrel says:

    Remember when Lee said “I will not fight for Virginia or the Confederacy until the slaves are freed!”

    He didn’t say that? Don’t tell Wes.

    Yeah. Grant owned a slave (William Jones) because of a family connection but freed him in 1859. If Lee had won, slavery would have continued whether Lee wanted it to or not.

  683. NYCmike says:

    Wes has really become a crank since he got engaged/almost married.

  684. Bitterlaw says:

    Can you be moribund AND powerful? Seems a bit if a challenge.

  685. Robbie says:

    Another fun fact about Rod Rosenstein. GWB nominated him to serve as an appeals court judge for the fourth circuit in 2007. Maryland’s senators blue slipped him.

    And this is something Jason needs to learn. The Attorney General and the deputies are not supposed to be loyal to Trump. They’re supposed to be loyal to the law.

    Trump’s personal lawyers should be loyal to him personally (maybe a dog as well), but not the Attorney General.

  686. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t know if Wes and Tink got married. I never received a wedding invitation. I was going to invite lisab or Cash Cow.

  687. lisab says:

    actually i think trump would represent the coolidge branch of the party, particularly the lower taxes, lower regulations, “the business of the united states is business” attitude

    however the republican establishment seems to be big government, high taxes, war is goo for big business, screw the middle class types. what used to be known as neocons, although that term now has some anti-semitic overtones

  688. lisab says:

    coolidge did have a good reputation however

  689. Wes says:

    Remember when Lee freed his slaves as soon as contractually able to do so? Remember when the Grants moved from MO to IL and kept their slaves enslaved so they could profit off leasing them out?

    Anyone familiar with American history–that is, anyone other than Bitterlaw, who thinks Jefferson Davis was some kind of nebulous “leader” in the Senate–knows about that dichotomy between the two major generals of the Civil War.

  690. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 20, 2017 at 3:12 pm
    The Juice is loose!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4715036/OJ-Simpson-parole-hearing-determine-release-prison.html

    – I watched the decision on TV. It was as if I had been transported back to 1995 when I raced home from college to watch the verdict. Every single station covered the decision live.

  691. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe OJ is a good person after all:

    “He also spoke about how he oversees the prison softball league”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4715036/OJ-Simpson-parole-hearing-determine-release-prison.html#ixzz4nOtqHe8P
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  692. NYCmike says:

    George,

    Posted that already……jason, Bitterlaw, Wes, Robbie, etc refused to comment on it, other than to shout “deadenders!”.

  693. Bitterlaw says:

    Anybody who knows that Jefferson Davis was offered the Presidency of the Confederacy would know that he was not some unimportant back-bencher in the Senate. Delicate Flower should have known that.

  694. NYCmike says:

    I was in a mall in Des Moines, Iowa when the verdict came down…..white people on one side of room, a smaller number of black people on other side of room, with my 2 friends and I somewhere in no-man’s-land, as nobody could understand our accent.

    Verdict came down, room became noticeably COLDER. It was not a great moment to have been alive.

  695. Wes says:

    You have yet to provide a citation of any type saying Davis was some kind of “leader” in the Senate, Bitter. I do find the use of non sequitur to cover up ignorance of history amusing.

  696. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 20, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    George,

    Posted that already……jason, Bitterlaw, Wes, Robbie, etc refused to comment on it, other than to shout “deadenders!”.

    – Not sure I ever had anything to say on this matter, but the amendment seems to be something most, if not all, Senators support. So good for Cruz.

  697. Bitterlaw says:

    Are you really this stupid, Wes? Every Senator was exactly equal in influence and power? Why was Jefferson Davis offered the job if any politician from a seceding state would have been just as good? His prior service as Secretary of War would not have been enough.

  698. NYCmike says:

    “Are you really this stupid, Wes?”

    -Wes is NOT stupid. He is brilliant! He tells us so, repeatedly, and all of those wonderful REALLY BIG WORDS he uses, Ay Dios Mio!

  699. NYCmike says:

    “So good for Cruz.”

    -Another Trump miracle!

  700. Paul says:

    Civil War history. Nice for a change of pace.

  701. Robbie says:

    Oh, no. A Civil War debate? What’s next? Another debate on the strategy at Midway?

  702. Trump says:

    Being publicly lynched here by Mueller. Just hanging from a tree while the nasty racist dems point up at me.

  703. Trump says:

    Fake poll saying 12% want to change vote. I would have won anyway even if 12% switched!!!

  704. Trump says:

    Over 12% of Hillary’s voters were illegal immigrants. It would be a wash. Ha! http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll-idUSKBN1A5127

  705. Wes says:

    Bitter Bushfellater, I would assume someone who had a HISTORY degree might be aware Jefferson Davis actually urged against secession in speeches from the Senate floor and went along with secession only after it became apparent Mississippians would secede regardless of their junior Senator’s wishes.

    Apparently I would be wrong.

    Some leader who couldn’t brook a compromise to keep his state from seceding.

  706. Wes says:

    I’m still waiting for the link telling me Davis was some kind of leader in the Senate between March 1857 and December 1860, Bitter.

  707. Wes says:

    First Senate Leader: Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr., who took the position during the final year of the Woodrow Wilson Administration.

    Naturally despite the six-decade gap between Jefferson Davis’ antebellum Senate service and the time Senator Lodge became the first recognized floor leader in the United States Senate, Bitterlaw thinks Davis was a Senate “leader”–and a horrible one at that.

  708. NYCmike says:

    “Some leader who couldn’t brook a compromise to keep his state from seceding.”

    -If Wes was this tough on current “leaders”, we would get along a lot better.

    For some reason, he accepts trillion $ deficits as “doing great”.

  709. NYCmike says:

    Wes thinks that the Southern secession states would elect some nobody to lead them……yet denies that Northerners are simply smarter than Southerners…..how y’all doing today?

  710. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I knew that. I also know he took the job as President. He did not have to do that.

    I’m still waiting for Wes to understand that their were prominent Representatives and Senators before the current positions of leadership had titles. I guess Wes thinks that people like Clay and Calhoun were just a bunch of guys no different than any other politician.

  711. Bitterlaw says:

    The Confederate states started leaving before Lincoln was sworn in. Obviously, Wes blames Lincoln.

  712. Bitterlaw says:

    Top 5 Things I fear:

    1. Spiders.

    2. Finding out that I am related to a Nazi

    3. Finding out that I am related to a Confederate soldier or slave owner.

    4. Drowning.

    5. Finding out that I have a relative who likes the Dallas Cowboys.

  713. NYCmike says:

    I am surprised Wes is such an accomplished person. That is no way to get ahead.

    He should have just blended in with the woodwork, and one day he might have been chosen to be Governor of a Southern state, just because….

  714. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Wes has a different perspective on things. We don’t share the same concept of right and wrong.

  715. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4715568/Linkin-Park-singer-Chester-Bennington-commits-suicide.html

    Sad story. While I would be happy to just not wake up one day, I would never take my own life. That is why I am not depressed. That and the fact that I do not believe in depression.

  716. Bitterlaw says:

    Wait. That was cruel. Don’t open the link, Wes. Don’t do it.

  717. NYCmike says:

    That WAS CRUEL!

  718. NYCmike says:

    Maybe those ear things made him do it….the aliens sent him self-destruct signals…..

  719. Waingro says:

    #745, even just looking at the headline (I would NEVER click on that) makes me do this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRxcfr8VB2g

  720. Wes says:

    Still haven’t seen that link saying Jefferson Davis was a Senate “leader,” Bitter.

    Are you waiting for Jormungandr to spit venom on Thor at Ragnarok to provide it?

  721. Wes says:

    By the way, I saw Lena Dunham’s name in your link. That alone ensured I would nevrr open it.

  722. Bitterlaw says:

    Was Henry Clay a leader, Wes? Was Calhoun? They didn’t have the title “leader.” Play your games, Wes. You know what I always meant.

  723. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw’s argument:

    The South began rumbling about secession when Lincoln was running for President.

    Jefferson Davis uurged against secession despite believing it was a right of the states.

    The South seceded despite Davis’ attempts to stop it.

    Davis tearfully left the Senate once Mississippi passed its secession resolution.

    Naturally Davis=Senate “leader.”

    This is the grammatical term for the logic Bitter employs to reach his conclusion:

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/non-sequitur?s=t

  724. Wes says:

    I also you didn’t know what the f uck you were talking about and pulled a name out of your ass to try to save face, Bitter.

  725. Jonesy says:

    McCain has terminal cancer, but still has the time to rip Trump on Putin and Syria. Geez..

  726. Kid Rock says:

    You sick of this sh*t like I am? Fukk this b*tch and vote for me fukk yeah!

  727. Jonesy says:

    Reagan was the best POTUS we ever had, but he could not win the House.

    Trump donated to Dems for Business, the Gipper was a admitted Socialist in the 1930’s and 40’s.

    Your a dumbass Robbie

  728. Kid Rock says:

    Fukk yeah

  729. NYCmike says:

    Doug Lamalfa will be the next President, using Wes logic.

    That should make the late-night comedians happy.

  730. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if Wes will ever be as intelligent as he thinks he is. Probably not.

  731. NYCmike says:

    Or maybe Lisa Blunt Rochester

  732. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes logic –

    Jefferson Davis was an unimportant nobody.

    Jefferson Davis was offered the Presidency of the Confederacy because he was an unimportant nobody.

    Jefferson was so upset that his state tried to leave the Union that he accepted the Presidency and did everything possible to make sure that it was successful in leaving the Union.

  733. Jonesy says:

    NM Land commissioner (R) to run for the Pearce seat.

    Very good news. Top Tier

  734. Jonesy says:

    RNC breaks another fundraising record in June

  735. Wes says:

    Wes’ logic:

    While Davis had strong enough support in Mississippi to earn a legislative appointment to the Senate, he was a backbencher with no significant legislative accomplishments in the Senate.

    Bitter logic:

    Because Davis accepted the role of President of the Confederacy, Davis must have been some major leader in the United States Senate.

    Conclusion:

    You go from mischaracterizing my position back to your nonsequential logic to try to prove you knew what you were talking sbout when clearly you didn’t.

  736. Wes says:

    Here comes Il Mikey to jump on me by making points I never made. No one ever said Chuck Schumer had a host of geniuses as constituents.

  737. Jon Osoff says:

    “RNC breaks another fundraising record in June”

    Yes, money means everything!

  738. Wes says:

    Il Mikey, explain to me again how preventing voters from accepting or rejecting potrntial nominees is “letting them choose nominees in a different way.”

  739. Bitterlaw says:

    Still no answer from Wes on Clay and Calhoun. Oh well. The Genius only answers questions that fit his failed point.

  740. Jonesy says:

    767. LOL. Touche

  741. Wes says:

    You still haven’t posted anything saying Davis was a Senate “leader,” Bitter.

    While you’re at it, I’m still waiting to see how Lincoln personally ended slavery. I have never read a part of the Constitution empowering the President to unilaterally pass a constitutional amendment. Article and section saying Lincoln could do this please.

  742. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw’s point is that a third-year bsckbenching Senator who couldn’t convince his constiturnts not to secede was some kind of Senate “leader.”

    Then he accuses ME of making failed points.

    How droll.

  743. Wes says:

    Constituents*

  744. Bitterlaw says:

    When Wes says slavery was “evil,” we can have a thoughtful discussion.

    Wes seems to think that if Lincoln had not prosecuted the war to a successful conclusion that slavery would have ended in the US in 1865. Laughable. He pretends that I do not know that the 13th Amendment ended slavery but ignores the fact that there would not have been a 13th Amendment that ended slavery in the entire US (including the Confederacy) without crushing the South’s armies.

  745. Bitterlaw says:

    For those who are new here (or pretending to be new here), Wes refuses to say that slavery in the US was evil. He will only describe it as “wrong.”

  746. Bitterlaw says:

    More Wes logic:

    Hey. Let’s start a new nation. Better go find the least important and most untalented person we can find to lead it. Wonder what Jefferson Davis is doing these days?

  747. Wes says:

    Again with the non sequiturs. Jefferson Davis was a former Cabinet Secretary, and war hero when thd Confederacy tapped him for the presidency. That doesn’t mean he was unimportant or untalented. It also doesn’t make him a Senate “leader.”

    I would expect an attorney to understand basic English and logic.

    I would be wrong.

    I apologize deeply for attributing to you intellectual abilities and deductive reasoning beyond what you’re actually capable of, Bitter.

  748. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    If Utah/Virginia reps did something illegal, let me know.

    Until then, they were within their rights to do what they did. Then, the voters, being unhappy, changed it to a different procedure.

    This is NOT rocket science, Mr. Massage Man.

  749. NYCmike says:

    Wes logic:

    Fascism = different methods of choosing representatives, able to be changed by the voters if so desired.

  750. Cash Cow TM says:

    Man, civil war argument can break out here at the drop of a hat….

  751. Jonesy says:

    Slavery was evil, and it still exist today in the Third World.

    Union General Sherman was evil also, as he allowed his troops to rape and pillage the Southern Countrysides

  752. Wes says:

    Hey, Il Mikey, whrn did I say Utah did something illegal?

    Find the post.

    I did say your Deadender buddies gamed the system to disenfranchise voters by keeping anyone outside your ranks from having a chance to accept or reject Bennett. That’s the very definition of fascism as it’s exactly the method Mussolini employed to gain absolute control of the Italian government.

    You cheer when Deadenders employ Mussolini’s personal tactics to accrue power, so what else am I to call you, Benito Mikeylini?

  753. Wes says:

    Jonesy is the first person on here to make a logical, coherent statement on slavery.

  754. Jonesy says:

    Thanks Wes.

  755. Wes says:

    After all, Il Mikey, if Bennett were such a bad Senator, surely Lee would have ousted him in the primary. That same year, Delaware Republicans said “We want Chris Coons to be Senator!” by beating Mike Castle in a Senate primary. Surely Lee could have replicated O’Donnell’s feat in a race where Utah Republicans could choose their own nominee in a primary.

    What were you and Mike Lee afraid of?

  756. lisab says:

    this wes bitterlaw argument is getting on my nerves soooooooooo …

    On January 21, 1861, a fearful capital city awaited the farewell addresses of five southern senators. One observer sensed “blood in the air” as the chaplain delivered his prayer at high noon. When the senators from Florida and Alabama had completed their farewell speeches, all eyes turned to Mississippi’s Jefferson Davis— the acknowledged leader of the South in Congress.

    from the us senate’s own website

  757. lisab says:

    oh … one of elizabeth warren’s possible senate opponents, shiva, just fell apart on massachusetts talk radio

    he is done. he cannot come back from the beating he just took …

    basically he beat up his girlfriend and radio host howie carr found out and destroyed him.

  758. Bitterlaw says:

    Jonesy – Wes does not believe that slavery in the Confederacy was evil.

  759. Wes says:

    So Lisa actually found in one day something Bitterlaw couldn’t find in two years. Of course it still doesn’t mean Davis was a worse Senate Majority Leader than Harry Reid–which was Bitter’s initial argument when Author said Reid was the worst Majority Leader in history–but at least someone finally found something saying Jefferson Davis was some kind of leader in the Senate.

    Maybe you should become an attorney in Bitter’s plac, Lisa, since you’re better at supporting his own arguments than he is.

  760. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw doesn’t believe rapes committed by Union soldiers against Southern women were evil, so I guess we’re even.

  761. Wes says:

    Too bad, Lisa. Shiva had arguably the best campaign tagline of the cyvle:

    Only a real Indian can beat a fake Indian.

  762. lisab says:

    wes,

    lawyers are not about resolving arguments

    they get paid by the hour

  763. Bitterlaw says:

    Go rub somebody and pretend it is therapy while you steal their money. Go marry your stripper before she finds somebody with a real profession.

    My blood sugar is low so I can’t drive home right now.

  764. lisab says:

    “Too bad, Lisa. Shiva had arguably the best campaign tagline of the cyvle:”

    yes, but he is doomed …

    he completely fell apart, you can hear it here:

    https://howiecarrshow.com/listen-to-the-explosive-shiva-interview-here/

    his political career is over, and in just 10 minutes.

  765. Bitterlaw says:

    Bitterlaw doesn’t believe rapes committed by Union soldiers against Southern women were evil, so I guess we’re even.

    Find that quote, liar. The Union soldiers who did that should have been executed. Of course, I shed no tears over the slave owners having their property confiscated since it was earned by the blood of the slaves they owned. Plantations were death camps whether you like to admit it or not.

  766. Wes says:

    Did he ever really have a chance against Fauxcahontas, Lisa?

  767. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – the great defender of evil and apologist for racists in the name of Southern pride. What a great guy.

  768. Bitterlaw says:

    Well, I drank 4 cokes in 5 minutes. Almost safe to drive.

  769. Wes says:

    Damn, Bitter.

    A bit touchy?

    You go from completely oblivious to heinous crimes committed against Southern women by Union soldiers to avenging angel of Southern female honor in a nanosecond.

  770. Bitterlaw says:

    To be clear, Wes is not a racist. He is an apologist for slavery and the slaves happened to be black but I believe that he actually is a decent person now. Except for being an apologist for centuries of evil.

  771. Wes says:

    The guy who says Lincoln was right to exclude all slaves in areas controlled by the Union–i e, the ones he could actually emancipate–accuses ME of being an apologist for evil.

    That’s droll.

  772. Bitterlaw says:

    When you lie about me, Wes, I hit back. I wish Sherman’s armies had burned more of the South and left it that way but he was too moderate. That does not mean that people should have been raped or killed. Of course, you make excuses for the rapists and killers who owned slaves but that is your quirk, not mine.

  773. Bitterlaw says:

    If Lincoln had freed those slaves, the border states would have left and the war would have been lost. Then, no slaves would have been freed. Nice try, Wes.

  774. Wes says:

    Now YOU are lying, Bitter.

    Find one post of mine with time and date attached where I’ve ever made an excuse for slavery.

    Do it, bitch.

  775. Bitterlaw says:

    5th soda down. I yield the floor to Wes while I drive home.

  776. Wes says:

    Excuses, excuses, Bitter.

    I’m the apologist for slavery somehow, but you’re the one defending Lincoln for not emancipating slaves in a document called the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Bitterlaw.

  777. Bitterlaw says:

    Find one post of mine with time and date attached where I’ve ever made an excuse for slavery.

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Every time you refused to call it evil and described it as merely “wrong.” Own it.

  778. PresidentPaul! says:

    #805

    You’re a lawyer who doesn’t drink coffee?

  779. Bitterlaw says:

    Would slavery have ended in 1865 without the civil war, Wes? Yes or no.

  780. Cash Cow TM says:

    Over at the small town park for the free Thursday concert.
    A large navy singing group fron the D.C. area.

    We always start off with tjw Star Spangled Banner.

    I can’t wait till they get the seafaring drinking songs.

  781. Wes says:

    Wow! That’s about the most ridiculous argument for apologetics I’ve ever heard.

    Not entirely unexpected from an attorney so inept at argumentation he had to wait two years for a vegetarian to provide some substance to his own argument.

  782. PresidentPaul! says:

    Mother and son have gender conversion together to Father and now daughter.

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500591689009.jpg

  783. lisab says:

    Did he ever really have a chance against Fauxcahontas, Lisa?
    ————-

    yes, but minimal.

    even when some people here were claiming trump did not have a chance at winning, it was pretty much obvious his chance was greater than zero.

    i think shiva’s was better than trump’s in 2016.

    however, i think now his chance is about as close to zero as you can get. howie carr has the biggest radio show in new england. he will be playing bits of that interview for years to come if shiva sticks around.

  784. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes- Ask my hundreds of clients about my skills. Your clients? People who need a rubdown.

  785. Wes says:

    In 1865? Probably not.

    Of course if Lincoln hadn’t felt the need to make ending slavery the central tenet of the war two years after it began as a means of consolidating wavering Union support behind the effort, then it wouldn’t have ended in 1865 either, so the question is a pointless one without acknowledging all the other factors that led to the end of slavery in the United States.

  786. Wes says:

    Yes, Bitter. That’s all my clients need: a rubdown-

    http://www.rejuvenationsmassagetherapy.com/deep-tissue-massage/

  787. Wes says:

    Hey, Bitter, while we’re on the subject of outcomes wiithout wars, would ISIS have been able to take over Iraq and start terrorizing the Middle East if Bush hadn’t launched the 2003 Gulf War?

  788. Cash Cow TM says:

    Meow…
    Cut out tbe cat fighting.

    I blame your alls being in an argumentative snit on having to live in cites dominated by Big City Values.

    Come join Walt to listen to the free concert and mellow out…

  789. Trump says:

    Now, they tell me I can’t even fire Mueller. What is this!

  790. Trump says:

    They say I can’t fire him. Rosenstein has to fire. And if he doesn’t, I have to fire him and try to get Rachel Brand to do it. Which she won’t because she’s a lefty woman. So I’ll have to fire Brand. Then I’ll have to try to get Dana Boente. Now Dana Boente sounds like a woman’s name but she is actually a man and he might actually finally get the job of firing Mueller done….. This is crazy! No wonder nothing gets done in D.C.

  791. Tina says:

    Post after post about muh russia and the cicil war.

  792. NYCmike says:

    Wes’s real name is “FIONA MAE APPLEBOTTOM”?!?

  793. NYCmike says:

    You go, DAWG!

  794. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    Ok, let’s try this again.

    You claim I am fascist, yet I have supported zero instances of illegal behavior, you can find no links to illegal behavior, the legal procedures that certain people used to get elected have been changed through a democratic process open to the citizenry.

    Your definition of “fascist” is an odd one.

    As for Mike Lee being scared to run against Bennett….let Bennett explain how or why he allowed the legal process to remove him be successful…..maybe he should have stayed in touch with his constituents?

  795. Cash Cow TM says:

    U.S. Navy Sea Chanters pitting on a nice show

    No mention of Russians or the U.S. Civil War….

  796. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes- ISIS or something close to it would have been created somewhere even if not in Iraq. Al Queda started years before GWB was in office. The PLO started decades before. ISIS was just the next development in a decades long process.

    As for massage therapy, when we see that an employee is only receiving that, we order surveiilance or try to end their case. We know they can work then because they no longer need real treatment. Sorry.

  797. lisab says:

    i’ve been a bad bad girl
    i’ve been careless
    with a delicate man
    and it’s a sad sad world
    when a girl will break a boy
    just because she can

  798. Bitterlaw says:

    All is quiet now. Too quiet.

  799. Cash Cow TM says:

    I think everyone went to rearm…

  800. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.

  801. Kid Rock says:

    Fuukkk yeah bro.. We’re totally gonna fukkiin make America great again bruhhh

  802. I love Donald Trump says:

    When will Trump have his first state dinner?

  803. Kid Rock says:

    What? yeah let’s bomb the sh*t out them bruhh. Fukk yeah bomb bomb them sand n*ggaz

  804. Bitterlaw says:

    Anybody else think that the Kid Rock bit has already jumped the shark?

  805. Trump says:

    Senator Kid Rock

  806. Trump says:

    Is the civil war over?

  807. Kid Rock says:

    Who is this pu$$y snowflake? Bruh, fukk off

  808. Trump says:

    Look I like people who don’t have brain cancer, ok?

  809. Bitterlaw says:

    Is the civil war over?

    For now. Wes and I have battled over this longer than the actual war.

  810. Trump says:

    Holy Cow. I can pardon anyone? Why didn’t they tell me this before?!

  811. Trump says:

    Actually, I am the ruler so I declare that the South wins and can go form their own magnificent country!

  812. Tina says:

    We need muh russia now at the muh russia report.

  813. Trump says:

    The South USA will have a wonderful healthcare system. The North can keep their Obamacare! Sad!

  814. Trump says:

    835 and 836 is me, the fake Trump.

    All the others, the fake fake Trump.

    Some of his posts sound like I would. Others not so much.

  815. PresidentPaul! says:

    McCain still attacking Trump from hospital bed.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/hospital-
    bed-john-mccain-hits-president-trump-twitter

    Hopefully he gets better, but he needs to testify before the senate.

  816. Tina says:

    President Trump’s lawyers and aides are scouring the professional and political backgrounds of investigators hired by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, looking for conflicts of interest they could use to discredit the investigation — or even build a case to fire Mr. Mueller or get some members of his team recused, according to three people with knowledge of the research effo

    Lol, ny slines. Three unnamed prople. Yup, three. Bs on bs on bs.

  817. Tina says:

    Justice Department has explicit rules about what constitutes a conflict of interest. Prosecutors may not participate in investigations if they have “a personal or political relationship” with the subject of the case. Making campaign donations is not included on the list of things that would create a “political relationship.”

    Clearly mueller and comedy are friends, so a conflict.

  818. Paul says:

    Fight on, McCain. And prayers to you as well.

  819. Paul says:

    Being friends with Comey does not equate to “a personal relationship” with the subject of the case. Does it?

  820. McCain says:

    Thanks

  821. Teena says:

    FAKE NEWS!! EVERYTHING IS FAKE!

  822. PresidentPaul! says:

    Dude, Kidd Rock is going to be the GOP nominee.

    hell yes

  823. Tina says:

    Ok lawyah.

  824. Kid Rock says:

    “Dude, Kidd Rock is going to be the GOP nominee.”

    Bruh, fix that sh*t.. You mean I am gonna be the Senator Elect. Get it right motha fukka

  825. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:05 pm
    President Trump’s lawyers and aides are scouring the professional and political backgrounds of investigators hired by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, looking for conflicts of interest they could use to discredit the investigation — or even build a case to fire Mr. Mueller or get some members of his team recused, according to three people with knowledge of the research effo

    Lol, ny slines. Three unnamed prople. Yup, three. Bs on bs on bs.

    – Yet you believe all of the Circa News reports that use their own unnamed sources.

  826. Nurse Ratched says:

    This is getting out of control. Everyone back to your rooms.

  827. Tina says:

    Its the purveyor of muh russian.

  828. Tina says:

    CFR › Title 28 › Chapter I › Part 45 › Section 45.2
    28 CFR 45.2 – Disqualification arising from personal or political relationship.
    eCFR
    Authorities (U.S. Code)
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    § 45.2 Disqualification arising from personal or political relationship.
    (a) Unless authorized under paragraph (b) of this section, no employee shall participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with:

    (1) Any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution; or

    (2) Any person or organization which he knows has a specific and substantial interest that would be directly affected by the outcome of the investigation or prosecution.

    (b) An employee assigned to or otherwise participating in a criminal investigation or prosecution who believes that his participation may be prohibited by paragraph (a) of this section shall report the matter and all attendant facts and circumstances to his supervisor at the level of section chief or the equivalent or higher. If the supervisor determines that a personal or political relationship exists between the employee and a person or organization described in paragraph (a) of this section, he shall relieve the employee from participation unless he determines further, in writing, after full consideration of all the facts and circumstances, that:

    (1) The relationship will not have the effect of rendering the employee’s service less than fully impartial and professional; and

    (2) The employee’s participation would not create an appearance of a conflict of interest likely to affect the public perception of the integrity of the investigation or prosecution.

    (c) For the purposes of this section:

    (1)Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, a candidate (whether or not successful) for elective, public office, a political party, or a campaign organization, arising from service as a principal adviser thereto or a principal official thereof; and

    (2)Personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality. An employee is presumed to have a personal relationship with his father, mother, brother, sister, child and spouse. Whether relationships (including friendships) of an employee to other persons or organizations are “personal” must be judged on an individual basis with due regard given to the subjective opinion of the employee.

    (d) This section pertains to agency management and is not intended to create rights enforceable by private individuals or organizations.

  829. Tina says:

    Will you have more muh russia tomorow?

  830. Kid Rock says:

    Russia? Fukk baby.. more vodka oh fukk yeah pour it down my motha fukkin throat

  831. Paul says:

    Good thing Mueller doesn’t have a relationship with Trump so he should be okay.

  832. PresidentPaul! says:

    Kid Rock looks to secure the religious right

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500456808648.jpg

  833. Tina says:

    More muh russian.

    To orrow, lets see if fake news rottie can find something from the compost.

  834. Tina says:

    Hi cg.

  835. Tina says:

    Trump Picks Richard Grenell, Former Diplomatic Aide, as Envoy to Germany
    mobile.nytimes.com

    For pmer un ambassador under flubs brother.

    I bet he did not unmask.

  836. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:29 pm
    More muh russian.

    To orrow, lets see if fake news rottie can find something from the compost.

    – Did you catch your man Cernovich on Alex Jones today? He said the reason Trump hasn’t been able to fill the posts in the government is the “deep state” is drugging applicants and then taking compromising pictures of then with hookers.

    That’s you Gorilla mindset man Cernovich.

  837. Teena says:

    Trump Picks Richard Grenell, Former Diplomatic Aide, as Envoy to Germany
    mobile.nytimes.com

    NY TIME?? FAKE NEWS!!

  838. Tina says:

    Sally Yates @SallyQYates
    POTUS attack on Russia recusal reveals yet again his violation of the essential independence of DOJ, a bedrock principle of our democracy.

    Thank you, sjw. You lost a 9-0 decision in the sc, so you are not so bright.

  839. Tina says:

    I do not listen to either fake news rottie. Mice way to divertt again. Find some muh russia from the wp compost.

  840. Tina says:

    No, the real reason is that the ky drunk cannot get people confirmed.

    Too busy.

  841. Tina says:

    Hi, cg.

  842. Trump says:

    Guys, can someone tell me if I am allowed to pardon myself?

  843. Tina says:

    Maybe you can get some news from preet burrito.

  844. Paul says:

    Why are some folks referred to as Sassy Jehovah Witnesses (SJW)?

  845. PresidentPaul! says:

    The president is immune from all criminal
    prosecution so why would he need that?

    Also you can’t just pardon someone . They have to accept the pardon, which as far as the court is concerned views this acceptance as an admission of guilt.

  846. Tina says:

    Hi cg,p.

  847. Paul says:

    Tina, you obviously read fake news. I’ve read your posts. It is all full of it.

  848. Tina says:

    How is the blog of one?

  849. PresidentPaul! says:

    btw- what happens if Trump fires Muller?

    Seems like he should have done it a long time ago.

  850. Paul says:

    PP: 876:

    He is not immune once he leaves office so pardoning oneself may have a benefit.

  851. Paul says:

    880: I thought under law, he couldn’t fire Mueller. Only the Attorney General can fire him.

  852. Tina says:

    Ieller wont be fired, this sheot is winding down, waste of taxpayer money.

  853. PresidentPaul! says:

    Would be interesting to see if the pardon held in a court.

    I think Nixon was pardoned before he was even charged with a crime or a preemptive pardon so apparently one could pardon despite not even being charged with a crime.

  854. Robbie says:

    Paul says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:44 pm
    880: I thought under law, he couldn’t fire Mueller. Only the Attorney General can fire him.

    – Right now, he would have to ask Rosenstein to fire Mueller. If he won’t, Trump fires him and asks the next in line until he finds someone who will.

    On the other hand, if he forces Sessions out, he can install a new AG who will not be recused and then can fire Mueller.

  855. PresidentPaul! says:

    Isn’t the DAG an Obama guy? Why isn’t he fired yet?

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/can-trump-fire-mueller/

    Q: Can President Donald Trump fire special counsel Robert Mueller?

    A: Not directly. Only the deputy attorney general who appointed Mueller can fire him and only for cause. But Trump could fire the DAG, or order the special-counsel regulations repealed and fire Mueller himself.

  856. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:45 pm
    Ieller wont be fired, this sheot is winding down, waste of taxpayer money.

    – Want to bet on the part this is winding down?

  857. Tina says:

    Caspar Weinberger would be a more recent example, bubu.

  858. Robbie says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:48 pm
    Isn’t the DAG an Obama guy? Why isn’t he fired yet?

    – No. He was hired by GWB in 2005 and Obama kept him all throughout his term.

    In fact, GWB nominated Rosenstein for the fourth circuit court of appeals in 2007, but the two Democrat Senators in Maryland blue slipped him.

  859. Tina says:

    Jebot loves muh russian. It is winding down.

  860. Paul says:

    I think getting a new AG confirmed will be a high hurdle right now.

  861. Tina says:

    When muh russia goes away, what will you do next! Who is he next target, maybe Melania!

  862. Tina says:

    Maybe, there can be a reunion of jebot 1 and 2?

  863. PresidentPaul! says:

    Sessions is one of the best cabinet choices he made. Not sure what to make of that recusal though.

    Did the Hillary/dems plan it out to have Sessions incidentally meet with some random Russians?

    Doesn’t seem like they are smart enough to do all that but who knows.

  864. Tina says:

    Comedy thre w dirt, bubu, hoping to trigger ian sp.

    If sessions were to charge comedy tomorrow , muhnrussian ends tomorrow.

  865. Paul says:

    Yes, Trump could could fire Rosenstein if he doesn’t get rid of the special prosecutor. Then Rachel Brand would be acting Attorney General. She’s close to Rosenstein and might resign if that is the case. Then Dana Boete would be acting AG and he might be more willing to go along with Trump.

  866. Paul says:

    Dana Boente, I mean.

  867. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie-

    With the amount of money at stake, the judgeships at stake, the rise of the communist left, etc I find it insane that you wouldn’t vote for Trump especially when your objections are over personality issues rather than substance.

  868. Paul says:

    Tina: Why do you think Comey is at the center of the Special Prosecution? I think it is beyond that at this point.

  869. Tina says:

    899, you do not read or listen to congressional testimony?

  870. Paul says:

    PresidentPaul: Kasich will also nominate conservative judges.

    I’d rather vote for him.

  871. PresidentPaul! says:

    The race was Hillary vs Trump though.

  872. Tina says:

    How is the blog of one going?

  873. Paul says:

    For the investigation that Mueller is heading, that which you speak is periphery. It may be significant, but not the main concern.

  874. Paul says:

    901: Sorry, I thought you were berating Robbie for not voting for Trump in 2020.

  875. PresidentPaul! says:

    Pyramid of the Sun found

    Top archeologist Dr Sam Osmanagich, who claims he found the pyramids, says the Pyramid of the Sun is the largest pyramid in the world – dwarfing the Great Pyramid of Egypt.

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/469316/Bosnian-pyramids-discovery-Europe

  876. Tina says:

    Cg, i am not following

  877. Paul says:

    Who is Cg?

  878. Tina says:

    Ok hhr, granite top or quartz top?

  879. Paul says:

    formica

  880. Tina says:

    Been there and done that.

  881. Tina says:

    My first kitchen, cg.

  882. Tina says:

    1968.

  883. Tina says:

    Drat gonna drat.

  884. Tina says:

    Blog troll definition

    In Internet slang, a troll (/?tro?l/, /?tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional …

  885. Tina says:

    Off topic, muh russian loon conspiracies?.

  886. Tina says:

    Rinse prubus out?

  887. Tina says:

    Anthony Scaramucci will be White House communications director, according to two sources familiar with the planning.

    Sources.

  888. Trump says:

    Surprising about Rinse.

    Also, I’d go for Granite. Always like it. And as a geologist, I think it is really cool rock.

  889. Tina says:

    Leftists attacking media, claiming media colluded with russia,

    http://ntknetwork.com/senior-obama-admin-official-the-media-colluded-with-russia/

    Farkas was present

  890. Paul says:

    I’m not CG.

    I seriously was trying to figure out if Cg was some sort of code or abbreviation. LOL.

    I’m a HHR driveby regular since 2004. At one point I was Repub4Kerry and then I was Indy. Now I’m just Paul.

  891. Paul says:

    And sometimes Trump. Don’t tell Soccer Mom.

  892. Teena says:

    Anthony Scaramucci will be White House communications director, according to two sources familiar with the planning.

    Sources.

    — Just to clarify, these “Sources” are real, not FAKE

  893. Paul says:

    More fake news from Trump official on Muh Russia…

    At the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado on Thursday, Thomas Bossert, the president’s homeland security adviser, said that there was no question that Russia had meddled in the 2016 election in comments reported by USA Today.

    “There is a pretty clear and easy answer to that and that is yes,” Bossert said when asked if he backed the conclusion from U.S. intelligence agencies. He added that more should be done to “punish” Russia and other groups for interfering in the election process.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/343063-trump-officials-russia-meddled-in-the-election

  894. Tina says:

    Time for mire muhnrussian this am.

    And then civil war.

    And then deadenders.

  895. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Anny360/status/888331747519336449/photo/1

    Uh oh, collusion. Picture of the g20 two years ago. Cnn was on a bathroom break.

  896. JC says:

    Trump has people investigated Mueller. F’kin finally.

    These traitorous @holes are playing with fire. I hope they get torched.

  897. Bitterlaw says:

    I am not Teena. I am also not Spartacus.

  898. Tina says:

    You are ambulance chaser.

  899. Tina says:

    Yup, the media articles are true. Trump lawyerrs reveaking strategy to bloomberg.

  900. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Granite. If you are getting a new floor, I recommend cork. Unless you have a dog who likes to rip up floors.

  901. Spartacus says:

    I AM SPARTACUS!

  902. Tina says:

    Jebot must be excited the millionth bannon on the brink story from politico.

  903. Tina says:

    Thanks, bl, we were leaning that way. Natural stone looks best.

  904. Bitterlaw says:

    You are ambulance chaser.

    Tina still can’t get it right. I defend against lawsuits.

  905. Tina says:

    Maxine dirrynwaters to nh.

    Wonderful news.

  906. Bitterlaw says:

    You should also get a pond with sharks with frickin lasers on their heads.

  907. Tina says:

    I have firearms and they are fine with security system. One just cannot be too safe these days.

  908. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – You could move here instead of getting a new kitchen –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4716562/Off-grid-Alaskan-home-hits-market-249-000.html

  909. Tina says:

    Nope bl, no snow.

  910. Bitterlaw says:

    I would not mind the snow. I would not want to be that isolated. I like my steady insulin supply.

  911. Robbie says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    July 20, 2017 at 10:57 pm
    Robbie-
    With the amount of money at stake, the judgeships at stake, the rise of the communist left, etc I find it insane that you wouldn’t vote for Trump especially when your objections are over personality issues rather than substance.

    – To be fair, I found it insane you voted for Ron Paul.

  912. NYCmike says:

    ” especially when your objections are over personality issues rather than substance.”

    -To be fair, with this simple statement, Bunu just laid waste to any argument put up by Robbie, jason, MD, “CG” Author….

  913. Tina says:

    Bl, basic supplies would be an issue. Groceries, limoncello, opus, you know.

  914. Tina says:

    Rube paul is insane, but so is voting for her thighness

  915. NYCmike says:

    #946 was in regard to Trump, not to Ron Paul.

  916. Tina says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/20/food-stamp-use-falls-lowest-level-seven-years/

    Well good news.

    Also, 100 billion cut tot the debt and a 20 percent cut in regs.

    I know a real drat or jeb would have done better.

  917. Cash Cow TM says:

    Coal mines news…

    Alpha Natural Resources to sell idle mines
    http://wvmetronews.com/2017/07/19/alpha-natural-resources-to-sell-idle-mines/

    The deal includes around 280 permits, reclamation equipment, royalty payments and 100 million tons of reserves.

  918. Tina says:

    James Woods @RealJamesWoods
    ·
    8h

    Was the bedrock principle of our democracy in place when #LorettaLynch abdicated DOJ independence on the tarmac with #Sleazoid #BillClinton?
    Sally Yates @SallyQYates
    POTUS attack on Russia recusal reveals yet again his violation of the essential independence of DOJ, a bedrock principle of our democracy.

    Got to like actor james woods. Sjw yates is a dumb lawyah.

  919. Tina says:

    Arthur Schwartz @ArthurSchwartz
    ·
    1h

    True but he probably won’t be super friendly w/ reporters that accused him of having ties to Russian spies & the Chinese gov’t. Hint: ??
    Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT
    Replying to @maggieNYT
    Also impt to remember, Scaramucci would be someone who returns media phone calls/is liked by a lot of reporters.

    Maggie hack slammed. Hiw is hillary doing btw?

  920. Cash Cow TM says:

    i EXPERIENCED FAKE NEWS YESTERDAY.

    Listening to morning radio they said OJ simpson gets $19,000 per month from NFL retirement.

    The 6 oclock news reported that OJ gets $25,000/month.

    Somebody wrong.

  921. Tina says:

    It is a lot of money either way cash cow.

  922. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 21, 2017 at 9:46 am
    ” especially when your objections are over personality issues rather than substance.”
    -To be fair, with this simple statement, Bunu just laid waste to any argument put up by Robbie, jason, MD, “CG” Author….

    – No, it’s not. Among other things, I strongly object to Trump’s protectionist trade policies and Trump’s decision to cozy up to Putin, a man who kills journalists and invades portions of other countries to annex them like Georgia and Ukraine.

    Regardless, if I come to the conclusion someone is unfit and/or unprepared to serve, the policies take a back seat. Simply because a crazy person thinks similarly to what I think, doesn’t mean the crazy person is suited for anything other than a straight jacket.

  923. Tina says:

    Cash cow, $400k while in prisoon, if he retired at 55 or 600k, if he took it at 65.

    Pension is protected from being shared with the goldmans as part of the judgment.

    Marketwatch

  924. Tina says:

    W cozied up to ppoty pooi, drove himaround at his ranch, etc.

    So did her thighness

  925. Jonesy says:

    Little bit of good news from yesterday.

    Judge Bush was confirmed to the 6th court of Appeals

  926. Cash Cow TM says:

    Friend of mine from Huntington who I served with in the state legislature has announced not running for State house again, but is tossing her hat in the ring for WV CD3.

    I think WV Delegate Rupie Phillips (R) and former (D) is the prohibitive favorite.

    http://www.herald-dispatch.com/_recent_news/miller-announces-bid-for-u-s-house/article_3cbfb3b8-6d69-11e7-b765-9f8a17c8abbd.html

  927. Cash Cow TM says:

    Thanks for the info, Tina.

    and that last post 960 was what Walt said.
    He dictated it to me while he was doing chores and I typed it.
    ********************************
    I, The Cash Cow, did not serve officially in the WV legislature.

  928. Robbie says:

    Martha McSally has drawn a top flight challenger in her Arizona Congressional district. Ann Kilpatrick, who represented a different Congressional district but moved to McSally’s after her Senate loss to McCain, will run in the Democrat primary.

    Democrats have recruited a high number of quality House candidates.

  929. PresidentPaul! says:

    #945

    “– To be fair, I found it insane you voted for Ron Paul.”

    Well GWB was a war criminal so it’s beyond policy disagreements with that guy although there were plenty of actual policy disagreements too.

    But your vote is more like Author’s in that for you it’s just personality.

  930. PresidentPaul! says:

    The decline of reddit

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500644333594.jpg

  931. PresidentPaul! says:

    Say Goodbye To X+Y: Should Community Colleges Abolish Algebra?

    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/19/538092649/say-goodbye-to-x-y-should-community-colleges-abolish-algebra

    “Algebra is one of the biggest hurdles to getting a high school or college degree — particularly for students of color and first-generation undergrads.

    It is also the single most failed course in community colleges across the country. So if you’re not a STEM major (science, technology, engineering, math), why even study algebra?

    That’s the argument Eloy Ortiz Oakley, chancellor of the California community college system, made today in an interview with NPR’s Robert Siegel.”

  932. Jonesy says:

    962. Carpetbagger.

  933. Jonesy says:

    How many states have 2 GOP Senators. Is that the way to avoid a blue slip? Nominate Judges from those states?

  934. PresidentPaul! says:

    Smart dude looks to smash every bird in the prison

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500648532730.jpg

    Canada’s federal prison service has approved the first transfer of a transgender inmate to an institution based on gender identity rather than genitalia, CBC News has learned.

  935. Jonesy says:

    Federal Judge, and Bush appointee, complaining that Trump will nominate to Appeals Court.

    Turns out he sided with Obamacare, in a a ruling in 2009.

    GOPe idiots

  936. Jonesy says:

    970. Will not nominate

  937. Jonesy says:

    969. No need for a Sadie Hawkins dance

  938. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #963
    1-The Dem. candidate lives on the other corner of the State. CARPETBAGGER!

    2- So has the GOP

  939. Waingro says:

    Heh. They haven’t given up not this just yet.

    “Lawyer who met with Trump Jr. had Russian intelligence connections”

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/888426535690133504

  940. Trump says:

    Why do people keep bleating that DoJ is independent of the Administration?

    Department of Justice is a cabinet department within the Administration, for god’s sake. Just like Treasury or Defense.

  941. Waingro says:

    Spicer resigns.

  942. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie, quick forward torpedo room….
    Load the Rockstar into tube two and prepare to fire!

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500443328024.jpg

  943. Waingro says:

    And now this. Avalanche happening.

    “Sources tell ABC News that Mark Corallo, spokesperson for Trump legal team working Russia probe had resigned. No word yet from Corallo.”

  944. lisab says:

    “why even study algebra?”
    ——————————-

    robbie’s brain is eastbound on a train from frankfort, kentucky going 60 mph towards saltlake city, utah.

    md’s brain is westbound on a train from salt lake city to frankfort, kentucky going 120 km per hour.

    the two train stations are 1,631 miles apart.

    by how many percentage points does hillary win utah in the 2016 elections?

  945. lisab says:

    no calculators and show all work!

  946. MichiganGuy says:

    Spicer resigns as White House press secretary

    http://abcnews.go.com/politics?cid=social_twitter_abcnp

  947. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 21, 2017 at 12:03 pm
    And now this. Avalanche happening.
    “Sources tell ABC News that Mark Corallo, spokesperson for Trump legal team working Russia probe had resigned. No word yet from Corallo.”

    – Trump also turfed his NYC lawyer Kasowitz last night.

    The engine is trailing black smoke right now.

  948. Barrett says:

    Wow, good Riddance Mr. Spicer. How many people have either resigned, been fired, or rejected approval from Trump’s administration? This is not going well for him at all.

  949. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump needs to fire Mueller and the deputy doj.

  950. lisab says:

    trump is bringing in ny businessmen to run the whitehouse

    probably should have done this day one. trying to work with the washington insiders was a mistake.

    however, too bad for trump about spicer. he, i think, was one of the few washington people that was trying to help trump.

  951. PresidentPaul! says:

    How four deep state corrupt swamp lawyers conspired to take down Trump

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500650363122.jpg

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500649595340.jpg

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500649333862.png

  952. lisab says:

    Developers plan to demolish historic Notre Dame Church in Worcester, MA, erect 4-story luxury apartment building
    ————————————

    this is unfortunately becoming very common. i recently went to quebec city, and their were several beautiful churches that were locked up and unused. there was also a convent that was originally designed for over 100 nuns, but it was almost empty.

    their just is not enough interest to keep these old buildings afloat.

    i am surprised Notre Dame is going. i would have though another newer church would take it over, like the moonies, but i guess it is too expensive to keep up.

  953. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Senator Rand Paul ? @RandPaul
    I agree with @realDonaldTrump, his Attorney General should not have recused himself over reported incidental contacts with Russian officials”

  954. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand pledges to compromise on repealing Obamacare

    .@RandPaul keeps hope for health care reform alive: “I will vote for a compromise.”

    https://twitter.com/Varneyco/status/888069989613412353

  955. PresidentPaul! says:

    More
    .@RandPaul: The president understands where I am on health care. We should repeal ObamaCare, but I’m against an insurance bailout fund.

  956. lisab says:

    How many people have either resigned, been fired, or rejected approval from Trump’s administration?
    ————————–

    actually less than expected so far

    but most administrations fire people in the first month, trump is dragging the process out over the first year.

    this is causing problems. in most administrations by this time you know if your job is relatively safe.

    the only people obama was firing at this point were generals

  957. NYCmike says:

    “.@RandPaul: The president understands where I am on health care. We should repeal ObamaCare, but I’m against an insurance bailout fund.”

    -If Rand is against an insurance bailout fund, does that mean jason is FOR an insurance bailout fund?

    If YES, which person between those 2 could have a more legitimate claim to the term “Republican” or “conservative” beside their name?

  958. NYCmike says:

    ““I will vote for a compromise.””

    -MUST BE ANOTHER “deadender”!

  959. lisab says:

    We should repeal ObamaCare, but I’m against an insurance bailout fund.
    ————————

    insurance companies have more money than almost any other industry.

    good luck getting past their lawyers and lobbyists.

    insurance lobbyist to congressman: “nice reelection fund you have their … it would be terrible if something happened to it!”

    i used to work for an insurance company in boston, as a mail girl 🙂

    their private planes were the size of 737’s! i was at their airport once when the flight attendants came in. i kid you not, they were models. they were not the 67 year old ladies you get on united airlines. i am going to say they were not chosen for their waitressing skills.

    the executives were flying somewhere to play golf with some pro they hired for $20,000 for a round of golf.

  960. Bitterlaw says:

    The M is nearly upon us. Repent!

  961. lisab says:

    there not their 🙂

  962. lisab says:

    repenting is overrated

  963. Phil says:

    Just fire Mueller already. The MSM will go nuts. So what? They go nuts on a daily basis anyway. Watched any CNN lately? Think it’s going to be any different with the press day to day as it is? Just shut it down. Is it legal for him to do it. Yep. Can Congress impeach him? Yep. Go ahead and try. Will impeachment be successful in the House? Nope, not without a Democratic majority. Even if it were successful, Would Trump be convicted in the Senate? Sixty seven votes? Not a snow ball’s chance in hell.

    Screw em.

  964. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  965. lisab says:

    i wonder if dj will appear?

  966. NYCmike says:

    Ninja Jim

  967. Robbie says:

    I don’t know about you, but Made in America week has been lit!

    -Sessions kneecapped
    -Mueller expands investigation
    -Trump exploring his pardon powers
    -Spicer resigns

  968. Robbie says:

    There will be a press briefing today. I so, so hope it’s given by Omarosa!

  969. lisab says:

    “Just fire Mueller already. The MSM will go nuts. So what?”

    it was a mistake to give him such leeway in the first place.

    they should have said something like, “investigate from 2015 to 2016”

    special prosecutorrs will go on as long as you pay them

  970. Tina says:

    The problem lisa, is one needs to read rosensteins order. It is very limited and mueller is going rogue.

  971. Tina says:

    Rosenstein will have to intervene. Given all of muellers conflicts, the limitations written i to rosensteins orders, the violation of cfr, etc.

  972. Phil says:

    Yep. Mueller and his merry band getting paid. Investigations go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on……..

    Expand and on forever….Mueller’s motto.

  973. NYCmike says:

    “mueller is going rogue.”

    -Like Palin?

  974. NYCmike says:

    “Expand and on forever….Mueller’s motto.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzZ4i8aWs_s

  975. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 21, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    Yep. Mueller and his merry band getting paid. Investigations go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on……..
    Expand and on forever….Mueller’s motto.

    – I guess Trump shouldn’t have fired Comey. Whoops.

  976. Tina says:

    Rosenstein will have to end it.

    A counter intelligence matter is not a criminal matter.

  977. lisab says:

    the problem for the dems is that they are out of money and very little is coming in

    they are way behind the 2014 cycle fundraising. they have zero money

    at this rate they could go into the 2018 election cycle with less than $200 million to defend everything

  978. Tina says:

    Trump was not under criminal investigation.

    So, the so is invalid. It is was triggered by comedy, who neds to be arrested.

  979. lisab says:

    I guess Trump shouldn’t have fired Comey.
    ————-

    no, he should have fired him day 1

  980. Tina says:

    Judicial watch will expose mueller and his merry band of drat activists.

  981. Tina says:

    If he fired comedy on day 1, the loony drats would have been triggered.

  982. Tina says:

    Sarah sanders will crush the loons now. Spicer, a nice guy, but nit a good fit.

  983. NYCmike says:

    “– I guess Trump shouldn’t have fired Comey. Whoops.”

    -Pathetic.

  984. Tina says:

    Goober said if you do not support the wet dream act, aka amnesty for illegal children, ehich will be backdoor amnesty for parents and extended, then do not vote for him.

    Another ineffective senator on our side supposedely.

  985. lisab says:

    it is pretty normal for an administration to fire people in the beginning, plus the dems hated comey at the time.

    he would have been one of 500 people fired, so it would not have been such a big story

  986. Tina says:

    Triggering an sp over an employment matter is ridiculous.

  987. Tina says:

    I think trump wanted comedy to spill what he knew. Comedy is not a smooth liar, if one looks at his testifying before congress.

  988. Tina says:

    Rosenstein oullls the order or comedy is charged.

    The only ways in which this charade ends.

  989. Bitterlaw says:

    Special Prosecutors hav a way of looking into whatever they want. Ken Starr went beyond his original assignment. The new SP gets his turn. The Dems bitched about Starr. Now we can bitch about the new guy.

  990. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 21, 2017 at 12:49 pm
    “– I guess Trump shouldn’t have fired Comey. Whoops.”
    -Pathetic.

    – I was being sarcastic. Chill.

  991. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue” @NolteNC
    ·
    1h

    Trump’s not gunna roll over like every other GOP bitch would for Mueller.

    What’s coming is gunna be awesomely ugly & healthily purifying

    Trigger the drats and media. Love it.

  992. lisab says:

    trump probably thought the establishment would get over his victory, but just look at “leaking federal records is not illegal” robbie.

    there are just too many robbies working at top jobs in the government. they should have been tossed out.

  993. Tina says:

    You had a criminal complaint and not a counterintelligence matter

    That is the differeence.

  994. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 12:47 pm
    Sarah sanders will crush the loons now. Spicer, a nice guy, but nit a good fit.

    – Rumor has it she’s been cast to play a young Jabba the Hut is an upcoming Star Wars movie.

  995. Tina says:

    Mueller is a swamp creature. You get rid of mueller if rosenstein rescinds, or trump takes out comedy by charging him.

  996. Tina says:

    Yeah make fun of heavy women, jerk.

  997. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 12:56 pm
    You had a criminal complaint and not a counterintelligence matter
    That is the differeence.

    – Thank goodness, Tina, who quotes Pizzagate guy Jack Posobiec, is here to tell us about the differences between counter-intelligence investigations and criminal investigations.

  998. Tina says:

    Trump has let go his chief. Riminal lawyer. Now he has dc political laeyers. Attorneys insist that no investigation of him.

  999. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 12:57 pm
    Yeah make fun of heavy women, jerk.

    – Triggered. That’s the only reason I wrote it.

  1000. lisab says:

    Yeah make fun of heavy women, jerk.
    —————————————

    notice he did not make fun of hillary

  1001. Tina says:

    Uh, it was not a criminal complaint, nobody was under criminal investigation. It was a ciunterintelligence matter until comedy falsely triggered the sp.

  1002. Tina says:

    Di notice he never attacks hillary or any drat, but claims to be a republican.

  1003. NYCmike says:

    “– Rumor has it she’s been cast to play a young Jabba the Hut is an upcoming Star Wars movie.”

    -Good catholic boy going after a person’s weight, but Trump is the embarrassment.

  1004. Phil says:

    1030

    Seriously, Robbie? That’s what you are going with? Her weight? She must be even more effective than I thought.

    No doubt that snark would kill it at the Georgetown dinner parties.

  1005. Tina says:

    Sarah sanders would probably kick the snowflakes arse.

  1006. lisab says:

    does anyone still doubt he is a dem concern troll?

  1007. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:03 pm
    does anyone still doubt he is a dem concern troll?

    – As opposed to when you wrote that I was gay.

    Go back to you Trump hole.

  1008. Tina says:

    Her weight would be a drat line of attack.

    She is just a good press secretary, better than the mccluless bush bot.

  1009. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:01 pm
    “– Rumor has it she’s been cast to play a young Jabba the Hut is an upcoming Star Wars movie.”
    -Good catholic boy going after a person’s weight, but Trump is the embarrassment.

    – I didn’t mention her weight. You and the others went there. Look in the mirror.

  1010. Tina says:

    She has her daddys genes and wits. Can talk, but is witty.

  1011. Tina says:

    zzzz, semantics.

  1012. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:06 pm
    Her weight would be a drat line of attack.
    She is just a good press secretary, better than the mccluless bush bot.

    – My slight at her was about her slithery nature and willingness to lie for Trump.

    Maybe I should have just called her a snake like her father is.

  1013. Tina says:

    David Martosko @dmartosko
    All credit to @axios for getting the Scaramucci story first, and correct.

    David is a good reporter, as is the cbs reporter that does radio. Just gives out the facts.

  1014. Robbie says:

    Cuck move. Am I right?

    Mark Murray?
    @mmurraypolitics 11m
    11 minutes ago

    Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) to @mitchellreports: If Mueller were fired, you’d see a tremendous backlash, incl from House Republicans

  1015. Tina says:

    I do not remeber jabba slithering around, so that comparison does not work. But nice try. Keep digging.

  1016. Double Standard says:

    It is an outrage to mention a woman’s weight. Anybody want to make fun of Chris Christie’s weight instead?

  1017. Phil says:

    “I didn’t mention her weight”

    Good lord.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  1018. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    David Martosko @dmartosko
    All credit to @axios for getting the Scaramucci story first, and correct.
    David is a good reporter, as is the cbs reporter that does radio. Just gives out the facts.

    – Trump asked him to consider being the comms director a few weeks ago. He didn’t do that because he’s simply a good reporter.

  1019. Tina says:

    I just got gasoline for $2.56 outside of sf. Would have been close to $4 with the jebots obumbler.

  1020. F. Scaramanga says:

    My gun is golden.

  1021. Tina says:

    He is a great reporter as is the cbs radio guy. Just gives out the facts, unlike maggie hack, cnn, etc.

    Btw, did maggie whisper anything to you?

  1022. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:13 pm
    “I didn’t mention her weight”
    Good lord.
    You can’t make this stuff up.

    – Point to a place where I mentioned weight. You went there I didn’t. She’s a slithering, lying snake just like her dad, Governor Corncob.

  1023. Tina says:

    Jonathan swan is the axios reporter. T

  1024. Phil says:

    I guess if you can’t refute that she’s a pretty good spokesman, go the Jabba route.

    Just don’t say the word “weight”

  1025. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:15 pm
    He is a great reporter as is the cbs radio guy. Just gives out the facts, unlike maggie hack, cnn, etc.
    Btw, did maggie whisper anything to you?

    – By the way, to whom did Trump give an interview to the other night?

    Oh, that’s right. Maggie Haberman, not the US editor of Daily Mail.

  1026. Tina says:

    I like ari fleischmouth, as savage used to call him.

    Fitzwater, however, was the best.

    Scottie Mcclueless the worst.

  1027. Tina says:

    Yes, the interview proves that trump used her effectively. All tools have a purpose.

  1028. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:16 pm
    I guess if you can’t refute that she’s a pretty good spokesman, go the Jabba route.
    Just don’t say the word “weight”

    – I don’t think she does a good job at all. I think she’s a slithering, lying fraud just like her father, Governor Corncob.

    Last year, she went on CNN and promoted a wild claim Amanda carpenter, a former Ted Cruz aid, was having an affair in an effort to discredit her because she was anti-trump.

  1029. Tina says:

    His motives for using her and the two other dummies will be displayed fully in a fee days. Confusi g perhaps now, but it will not be latee.

  1030. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – WV Ally has a new hairstyle and she looks great.

  1031. Robbie says:

    Someone didn’t get the memo!

    Wall Street Journal?
    @WSJ 1m
    1 minute ago

    Trump lawyer praises Mueller, says special counsel doing ‘good job’

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/attorney-says-trump-legal-team-not-working-to-discredit-russia-probe-1500656955?mod=e2tw

  1032. Bitterlaw says:

    If Trump is willing to be interviewed by the NYT, which he calls a source of fake news, when is he going to be interviewed by CNN?

  1033. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump lawyer praises Mueller, says special counsel doing ‘good job’

    Is this like when a football coach says that he has full confidence in his kicker and then cuts him three days later?

  1034. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:19 pm
    His motives for using her and the two other dummies will be displayed fully in a fee days. Confusi g perhaps now, but it will not be latee.

    – Oh, that’s right. Trump is playing 18D chess. I forgot.

    How’s that 25D chess move of firing Comey and getting a special council working out?

  1035. Tina says:

    Reince Priebus furious, per multiple who spoke w him. He has tried blocking Scaramucci at various points.
    9:18 AM – 21 Jul 2017

    This is from maggie hack.

  1036. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:22 pm
    Trump lawyer praises Mueller, says special counsel doing ‘good job’
    Is this like when a football coach says that he has full confidence in his kicker and then cuts him three days later?

    – The dreaded vote of confidence.

  1037. Tina says:

    Trump,also said that he was not going to dismiss mueller in the same ny times interview.

    This does not mean that mueller will not be dismissed by rosenstein.

  1038. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:21 pm
    If Trump is willing to be interviewed by the NYT, which he calls a source of fake news, when is he going to be interviewed by CNN?

    – As much as this pains some here, Trump has had a long relationship with Maggie Haberman. There’s no one at CNN with this benefit.

  1039. lisab says:

    As opposed to when you wrote that I was gay.
    ——————-

    i thought you were gay

    be fair, i am sure i am not the first woman to think you were gay

    you have never denied it btw

  1040. Tina says:

    Even with Trump warning, Mueller likely to probe finances http://abcn.ws/2tw5FW2

    Sources say.

    Sources also say that mueller coukd be fired.

  1041. Tina says:

    So the fake report that reince is a goner is not true.

  1042. Tina says:

    Rush just said that Spicer is an insider & Scaramucci is an outsider. President Trump has tried to work with the GOP, it’s not working. He’ll be bringing in his own people.

    I like spicer, he could be press secretary for the oentagon. Hopefully he bounces back. A good guy, but overwhelmed.

  1043. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:27 pm
    As opposed to when you wrote that I was gay.
    ——————-
    i thought you were gay
    be fair, i am sure i am not the first woman to think you were gay
    you have never denied it btw

    – And I’m the troll?

    I see becoming a loyal Trump apologist has consumed whatever little bit of soul you may have had.

  1044. Robbie says:

    And let me reiterate, just to enrage the Trumpists, I hope Trump, a loathsome, lying scumbag, resigns so Pence can become president.

  1045. Bitterlaw says:

    If Trump wants people to believe him when he says that there is nothing to find in his business dealings, I would suggest that he not warn Mueller to not look into his business dealings.

    I suggest that he say, “Look at everything, mf-er. Here are the keys to my offices, the passwords to my computers, and directions to the storage facilities for all of my records. Get on it. And bring me a sandwich.”

  1046. lisab says:

    let’s take a poll

    which is the bigger mistake?

    a.) me thinking robbie is gay all these years and being surprised when he said he followed victoria secret models on twitter

    or

    option b.) robbie predicting trump would lose utah and possibly idaho

  1047. lisab says:

    if i was wrong, so be it, my gaydar is not infallible

    however i think it is certainly less of a mistake than robbie made

  1048. Robbie says:

    Kelly Ward, who some here supported in McCain’s primary last year, is disgusting. She’s promoting herself as McCain’s replacement and he’s not even dead.

    CNN?
    @CNN

    Jeff Flake primary challenger: John McCain should step aside “as quickly as possible” after cancer diagnosis http://cnn.it/2twZe5a

  1049. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:37 pm
    let’s take a poll
    which is the bigger mistake?
    a.) me thinking robbie is gay all these years and being surprised when he said he followed victoria secret models on twitter
    or
    option b.) robbie predicting trump would lose utah and possibly Idaho

    – Let’s take a poll. Which is a bigger lie: a or b?

  1050. Tina says:

    Newt drops a bombshell — 99.81% of donations from Robert Mueller’s law firm went to Hillary Clinton! #FireMueller

    Nothing to see here and trumo, stay off twitttee.

  1051. Bitterlaw says:

    HHR Factions:

    Trolls like Trump – Worthless commentary and insults with an extremely rare interesting post.

    Anti-Semitic America-hating bastards – Bunu.

    People who will never turn on President Trump even if he says “I suck. It’s all real news. All of it.” – Tina, Jonesy, JC, NYC

    People who will always turn on Trump no matter what he does. “Trump cured cancer? So what? He didn’t invent a time machine to go back and cure people who died years age.” – Robbie

    People who like Trump fighting with the Media even though they don’t like Trump – Phil, Cash Cow, Wes

    People who hate the fact that Trump is President but made peace with it because at least Hillary is not President – Bitterlaw.

  1052. Tina says:

    All cute groupings, just like middle school.

  1053. lisab says:

    a man

    who spends all his time on the internet

    for years never mentions family, girlfriends or women, except to make snarky remarks about republican women’s looks

    hates trump and romney

    continually concern trolls and has for years

    follows victoria secret models … but not on snapchat or instagram … he wants to know what they say on twitter …

    i think if i was wrong it is a pretty easy mistake to make

  1054. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not think that Robbie is gay. He does not seem fabulous in any way.

  1055. Phil says:

    1087

    I’m ok with your categorization of me, Bitter. I think it is accurate, but in addition you can put me in your category as well.

  1056. Trump says:

    Anybody with a brain can see that McCain is not up to the job.

    For years.

  1057. Trump says:

    The fuc$tard retarded Robbie and the moron lawyer are an item now?

  1058. Tina says:

    Kelli ward would be an upgrade.

    However, she shoukd keep,her mouth shut.

  1059. Tina says:

    I will not give a oenny to fraud flake.

  1060. Trump says:

    This is what the moron lawyers life is.

    Trying to live a middle school life on an obscure blog.

  1061. Trump says:

    This moron thinks that it is ok for govt to harass citizens without cause.

    As $hole.

  1062. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw

    I’ve offered praise to Trump for his cabinet selections, Gorsuch, and his other judicial picks. But to be fair, that was a long time ago.

    I’d like to see him get his act together since I know there’s ZERO change he resigns. We’re stuck with him and I don’t want to see the party swamped by him.

  1063. Trump says:

    Trump is not a stupid loser like you, retard Robbie.

    He doesn’t give up at the slightest obstacle, unlike your butt owner Jeb.

  1064. Trump says:

    Trump should not be working with the GOP.

    If GOP voters wanted to work with the GOP, they would have elected Jeb. Or any of the other losers on parade.

  1065. Waingro says:

    Mueller to White House: Save records of the Veselnitskaya meeting

    Ed Morrissey Jul 21, 2017 12:01 PM

  1066. Bitterlaw says:

    Trying to live a middle school life on an obscure blog.

    Says the person who makes the posts every day on an obscure blog and most posts are just second grade level insults.

  1067. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, in the real world, “mining +21.6% in q1, construction +5.6%, manufacturing +4.7%”

    Cruising to reelection.

  1068. Robbie says:

    The new White House Comms Director. Does HHR support this view? (from 2012)

    Anthony Scaramucci?
    @Scaramucci

    We (the USA) has 5% of the world’s population but 50% of the world’s guns. Enough is enough. It is just common sense it apply more controls

  1069. Trump says:

    And the moron posts 100 times a day without saying anything. Idiot.

  1070. Trump says:

    Retard, he does what the president says when he is employed by the president.

    Nobody cares what his own views are.

  1071. Trump says:

    Food stamp use lowest in 7 years….

    Not a surprise….

    Less illegals and more legal system working

  1072. Trump says:

    Legals, not legal systems…

  1073. Tina says:

    Who cares, is he the canddiate, just commm director. His personal opinion has no bearing.

  1074. Tina says:

    A 20 percent drop in regulation. No r would have done that, jeb would have increased regukatiims like agood bushy.

  1075. Trump says:

    And why did the retard appeal to the HHR community to bolster his own view?

    Are you a scared little girl looking for affirmation, Jeb cocsucker?

  1076. Tina says:

    Scaramucci on Trump, Aug 2015: “a hack… anti-American… bullies association… don’t like the way he talks about women”

    Sounds like a jebot.

  1077. Tina says:

    https://t.co/s8BW4RPloK?amp=1

    I bet jebot will like him now. /s

    Notice how the never trumpers like morrissey and the ither losahs are pushing this?

  1078. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:45 pm
    a man
    who spends all his time on the internet
    for years never mentions family, girlfriends or women, except to make snarky remarks about republican women’s looks
    hates trump and romney
    continually concern trolls and has for years
    follows victoria secret models … but not on snapchat or instagram … he wants to know what they say on twitter …
    i think if i was wrong it is a pretty easy mistake to make

    – Oh, I get it mow. I’m supposed to reveal details about my personal life in a comment section. No thanks. Hard pass. Deal with it.

    However, I do follow all of those girls on Instagram. Trump would be smart to hire one as press secretary because it would distract everyone from all of the lying he does.

  1079. NYCmike says:

    Is Robbie really critiquing press secretary’s now?

    And calling them out for “lying” for their boss?

    Should a politician always tell the truth to the media?

  1080. NYCmike says:

    “However, I do follow all of those girls on Instagram.”

    -Wow, what a MAN!

  1081. Cash Cow TM says:

    Proposed Gas Pipeline news…From WV to Atlantic Coast…

    FERC report released…
    Dominion Praises FERC in Latest Atlantic Coast Pipeline Report

    “The more than $5 billion project is expected to support more than 17,000 jobs during construction and maintain over 2,000 jobs upon it’s completion.”

    http://wvmetronews.com/2017/07/21/dominion-praises-ferc-in-latest-atlantic-coast-pipeline-report/

  1082. F. Scaramanga says:

    Where’s Nick Nack?

  1083. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 21, 2017 at 1:19 pm
    Breaking News – WV Ally has a new hairstyle and she looks great.

    Yes, she looks fabulous!

  1084. Cash Cow TM says:

    Since congress is all screwed up on Repeal and Replace ObamaCare, I am requesting the convening of the HHR Health Care Reform Committee.

    How will we propose to fix it?

    My ideas:

    –26 year-olds get to stay on their parents insurance
    –end of no coverage fines
    –end of required purchase of a health care policy
    –establish sales across state lines
    –creation of HSA/HMAs
    –allow cafeteria plans where people can pick and chose what they want covered
    –any EXISTING health care plan becomes portable (thus negating/reducing the “preexisting conditions” crap that
    –all health care plans for NEW workers going forward
    –federal health block grants (Medicaid) going forward and let the laboratories of democracy (States) work creatively
    –establishment of a basic catastrophic health care package
    –anyone whose income is $1M impose a health care tax of 1% on income (hear that, richy rich people Zuckerbuerg, Bill Gates, George Soros, etc.!)
    –also seize assets of all illegal immigrants who are caught and kicked out of U.S.
    –also impose a 20% Fed govt health care fee on all wire transfers sent outside the U.S.

    What other things….?

  1085. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Where’s Nick Nack?”

    They ran off with Paddy Whack to feed a dog a bone.

  1086. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt is doing various chores.

    And moaning and muttering about how the world would be lots better is things did not break down or wear out, and if he had the right tools (or could FIND them in his messy garage) how much easier things would be….

  1087. Tina says:

    we need muh russian news.

  1088. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm
    Is Robbie really critiquing press secretary’s now?
    And calling them out for “lying” for their boss?
    Should a politician always tell the truth to the media?

    – No one made her take the job.

  1089. F. Scaramanga says:

    I worked for the KGB.

  1090. NYCmike says:

    “–26 year-olds get to stay on their parents insurance”

    -I don’t get why this should be done like this? Why not 30 years old? Or 35?

    An 18 year old is allowed to vote, and go in the military, but can’t drink and/or buy insurance for themselves.

    ODD.

  1091. PresidentPaul! says:

    People becoming disabled by choice calling themselves “transabled.”

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500654736257.jpg

    His goal was to become disabled.

    People like Jason have been classified as ‘‘transabled’’ — feeling like imposters in their bodies, their arms and legs in full working order.

    “We define transability as the desire or the need for a person identified as able-bodied by other people to transform his or her body to obtain a physical impairment,” says Alexandre Baril, a Quebec born academic who will present on “transability” at this week’s Congress of the Social Sciences and Humanities at the University of Ottawa.

    “The person could want to become deaf, blind, amputee, paraplegic. It’s a really, really strong desire.”

    Researchers in Canada are trying to better understand how transabled people think and feel.

  1092. Tina says:

    Stephanie Ruhle @SRuhle
    WH insider tells me-Bannon told Scaramucci this morning. “Over my dead body will you get this job!!” somebody better check Bannon’s pulse

    Poor fictional story writing.

  1093. Tina says:

    Sean Spicer @PressSec
    It’s been an honor & a privilege to serve @POTUS @realDonaldTrump & this amazing country. I will continue my service through August

    Good guy, hope he fits somewhere else in admin.

  1094. Tina says:

    Sarah sanders hired as new press secretary.

    Jebots will be triggered.

  1095. Paul says:

    I’m gonna miss spicey.

  1096. Paul says:

    So how long before Trump has the same problems with Wray as he had with Comey?

    At some point he might realize it’s him not them. 🙂

  1097. Paul says:

    “I do not consider Director Mueller to be on a witch hunt,” Christopher Wray said.

    Wray later added that if Trump asked him to do something unlawful, he would first try to discuss the matter with the President, and failing that, he would resign.

  1098. PresidentPaul! says:

    Mueller’s made it his mission to ruin the presidency on his first months in office.

    He needs to be fired. He’s created a never ending witch hunt for the dems.

  1099. Tina says:

    Mueller is irrelevant. It will soon end,

  1100. PresidentPaul! says:

    Graham at conference with Dick Durbin asks voters not to vote for him. Says vote for some other guy.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/lindsey-graham-tells-voters-dont-support-dream-act-dont-want-vote/


    Lindsey Graham Tells Voters: If You Don’t Support DREAM Act – I Don’t Want You to Vote for Me (Video)”

  1101. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump won’t support new amnesty Graham and Durbin and scheming

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article162494923.html

    “It’s enforcement first. Then we can get to all these other things,” said the first White House official, who would not speak publicly because of the sensitivity of the discussions.

  1102. PresidentPaul! says:

    IRLI sues DHS for Records Regarding the Creation of President Obama’s Unlawful Executive Amnesties

    http://www.irli.org/single-post/2017/07/18/IRLI-sues-DHS-for-records-regarding-the-creation-of-President-Obamas-unlawful-executive-amnesties


    (Washington, D.C.) – On behalf of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) announced today it has filed a lawsuit (attached here) in the US District Court for the District of Columbia seeking records from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that will shed light on the formation of President Obama’s unlawful executive amnesties. FAIR has been forced to file suit due to continued stonewalling by staffers within the agency, a violation of federal public records law and the spirit of government openness and transparency

    FAIR’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request sought records regarding a series of meetings involving several top Obama appointees, including former Secretary Jeh Johnson and former White House advisor Cecilia Munoz, that took place in the summer of 2014 to discuss how to push through amnesty following the collapse of the Rubio-Schumer amnesty bill in congress. What eventuated, the Deferred Action for Parental Accountability (DAPA) announced in November of 2014, would later be struck down by the Supreme Court. IRLI uncovered the existence of these meetings last year through documents produced in another FOIA investigation-Those findings were originally published by Breitbart News (story found here).”

  1103. PresidentPaul! says:

    Neil Munro?Verified account @NeilMunroDC 3h3 hours ago
    More
    7 fast facts re DACA: Roughly 3 million illegals, few skills, maybe $1.7 trillion in 50-yr costs, and 97% Democratic

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/21/daca-seven-facts-obamas-amnesty-decree/

  1104. lisab says:

    Bitterlaw,

    no he is certainly not fabulous, but he has a quality …

    on game of thrones for example, it is king robert baratheon

    not king robbie baratheon

    but you could be correct, gay man … snowflake … so hard to tell these days

  1105. PresidentPaul! says:

    Jared Kushner meets with Lindsey Graham to scheme amnesty and Russia

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/politics/jared-kushner-lindsey-graham-hill-meeting/?iid=ob_lockedrail_longstory_pool

    “Mickey Kaus? @kausmickey 19h19 hours ago
    More
    Mickey Kaus Retweeted Mickey Kaus
    Jared: ‘We give you amnesty if you drop Russia’
    Graham: ‘Deal’

    ——

    YIKES: Jared Kushner meets with Lindsey Graham, “discussed immigration policy” http://cnn.it/2uebhBJ Graham’s found the weak link!

  1106. lisab says:

    girl, 5, fined $200 for selling lemonade

  1107. lisab says:

    Boom: Mining +21.6% in Q1; Construction +5.6%; Manufacturing +4.7%; Bust: Finance and Insurance -2.1%

  1108. PresidentPaul! says:

    DACA is like giving Puerto Rico statehood.

    More democrats to steal your stuff and choose crazy judges despite the GOP winning some of these states by only 30 thousand or so.

  1109. lisab says:

    the GOP winning some of these states by only 30 thousand or so.
    ———————-

    this is the problem dems actually have. as they sucessfully block healthcare reform …

    behind the scenes on both the federal and the state level the gop is gaining in strength. as the 1,000 or so positions the dems have lost under obama rewrite and enforce laws and regulations, the dems are losing

    every voter roll list that is cleaned up costs the dems votes. florida and north carolina may now be off the table for the dems.

  1110. Paul says:

    Lisab: Voter cleanup is the same as voter fraud. We need more voters not less.

  1111. Tina says:

    Regarding Anthony Scaramucci’s presser today: Vogue editor Elena Sheppard, complained that “Scaramucci is actually terrifying because he’s so smooth and good at this.”

  1112. lisab says:

    Paul,

    recruiting new voters is not my problem, i am an independent

    but illegals voting is my problem

  1113. lisab says:

    the dem money raising is way down

    there is no one like clinton to drive it

  1114. NYCmike says:

    “We need more voters not less.”

    -Que?

  1115. Tina says:

    Even dead voters and voters voting multiple times.

  1116. Robbie says:

    Whatever you think of McCain, these comments by Ward are classless.

    azcentral?
    @azcentral

    Former AZ lawmaker Kelli Ward says Sen. John #McCain should quit, let Gov. Ducey appoint replacement http://azc.cc/2uiBHnb 

  1117. lisab says:

    Lena Dunham says she WON’T HAVE SEX with Trump supporters

  1118. Jonesy says:

    999. spot on, Phil. Feel the same way. Let the chips fall.

    Weak kneed GOP Senators would not have the guts to impeach him.

    Muller may have integrity, but his friendship with leaker comey says it all

  1119. NYCmike says:

    “Lena Dunham says she WON’T HAVE SEX with Trump supporters”

    -One more reason why the vote for Trump was the correct one.

  1120. lisab says:

    Minnesota Schools Adopt Transgender Toolkit for Kindergartners

    Teachers told to ask children their ‘preferred pronouns’A “transgender toolkit” for public schools in Minnesota advises teachers to call children “scholars” instead of boys and girls.

    The guidelines were approved Wednesday by the “School Safety Technical Assistance Council” and will be distributed to Kindergarten through 12th grade public schools and charter schools throughout the state. The toolkit attempts to “ensure a safe and supportive transition” for children becoming a different gender at school.

  1121. lisab says:

    Lack of ‘Women’ and ‘No Lead Actors of Color’ in Movie ‘Dunkirk’ — usa today

    they also note the lack of women in the longest day and the big red one

  1122. Tina says:

    First time in 7’years that pay rises for poorest americans

  1123. Phil says:

    No sex with Lena Dunham? Really?

    Bummer.

    Do these lefty morons have even a clue how ridiculous they sound? What a bubble they live in.

    Hey, Lena. Men will find a way to go on without you. Going to be tough but I’m confident we can do it. Keep humping those pajama boys.

  1124. Jonesy says:

    1158. Absurd.

  1125. Jonesy says:

    Not enough Beer Goggles in the world for Lena…

  1126. lisab says:

    1161 no it’s true, there are not many women in dunkirk 🙂

  1127. Jonesy says:

    If Mark Kirk would have resigned after his serious stroke, the GOP Governor in IL could have appointed someone who would have held that seat in 2016.

  1128. Jonesy says:

    Lisa, they could have revised History once again in Hollywood, and had the Buffalo Soldiers in Patton’s Tank Divisions, fly up from Southern France and save the day.

    Worst was the movie Selma. LBJ passed the Civil Rights in 1964 against the wishes of Fellow Southerners, and Hollywood still calls him a racist.

  1129. lisab says:

    A teenager who groped eight women as they swam at one of Queensland’s busiest beaches has been placed on two years’ probation by a Gold Coast judge.

    The Afghan-born 17-year-old, who cannot be identified because he committed the offences as a juvenile, spent two hours grabbing women, aged between 15 and 24 years, as he swam between the flags at Surfers Paradise Beach on January 16 last year.

    When questioned by the lifeguard on duty, the defendant allegedly said: “If I just say sorry, can we forget all about it?”

    During sentencing, Judge Kent accepted the teenager grew up in difficult circumstances in Afghanistan and his father died in 2011.

    He went on to say his behaviour, while holidaying on the Gold Coast with his family, was unacceptable …

    The judge placed the Victorian teenager on two years’ probation and no conviction was recorded.

    The judge accepted that seeing girls in bikinis is different to the environment in which he grew up.

  1130. lisab says:

    Jonsey,

    one of my favorite presidents was eisenhower …

    “In 1957, the state of Arkansas refused to honor a federal court order to integrate their public school system stemming from the Brown decision. Eisenhower demanded that Arkansas governor Orval Faubus obey the court order. When Faubus balked, the president placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent in the 101st Airborne Division. ”

    you did not mess with dwight …

  1131. Jonesy says:

    Agreed Lisa. If not for Ike’s Heart Problems, he would have done more

  1132. lisab says:

    apparently wikileaks is going to drop a bunch of emails soon

    and

    a bunch of huma emails on weiner’s laptop were just found

    rumor is they are bad

  1133. Tina says:

    Sessions was wiretapoed. Omg.

  1134. lisab says:

    Berkeley cancels Richard Dawkins’ speech because of his tweets about Islam

  1135. lisab says:

    Tina,

    that is old news unless there is a new story out

  1136. Tina says:

    Lisa, wp admitted that the ibumbker team wiretapped a sitting senator.

  1137. Tina says:

    Seems thin, one former official and ine current.

    Usually, its 3 unnamed sources.

  1138. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 7:54 pm
    Seems thin, one former official and ine current.
    Usually, its 3 unnamed sources.

    – Surprisingly, I agree with you. For all we know, the Russian ambassador embellished his story.

  1139. PresidentPaul! says:

    How we know Obama was wiretapping just Sessions.

    I thought that’s what that new NSA data center was for so all American’s data could be archived (to fight terror)

  1140. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500680312360.jpg

    Minn police chief resigns

  1141. PresidentPaul! says:

    My name is Lemon and I make fake news

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500682026917.jpg

  1142. Tina says:

    And even if 3, its the wp, which has been wrong. Hooefully, they did not wiretap a sitting senator.

    That woukd add the word banana, to banana politics, turd world studf

  1143. lisab says:

    The Trump Administration has removed over 800 Obama-era regulations

  1144. George says:

    And then there’s this from none other than Dr. Jill Stein:
    “Unlike the Dems, I didn’t sabotage Bernie Sanders in the primaries, then try to cover my tracks with ludicrous Russia conspiracy theories.”

  1145. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    It appears that Session’s was not directly wiretapped, but the Russian Ambassador was and Sessions’ alleged discussions with him and the Kremlin were intercepted.
    Unless there is something more or a confession, nothing can be proved either way.Sessions’ could have lied or forgotten or the Russkie could have fabricated the story.

  1146. Tina says:

    If they i tercepted communicatins, it means wiretapping. No previous asmininstration has done this to the opposition candidate, or incoming administration.

  1147. Tina says:

    This will end if he charges the swamp leakers.

    It will end mighty quickly.

    Drats will get unhinged, but so what.

  1148. Tina says:

    The mn diversoty chief has resigned from the police dept qfter the shooting uh assassination of the australian.

  1149. Tina says:

    They are replaying what they did to flynn.

  1150. Tina says:

    Uh oh

    Mike Cernovich ?? Retweeted

    Frank Thorp V @frankthorp
    ·
    3h

    JUST IN: Fusion GPS’ Glenn Simpson says he can’t attend next week’s Judiciary Cmte hearing, is out of country, & says he’d plead 5th anyways

  1151. Tina says:

    They need to subpoena simpaon. Let him plead the fifth.

  1152. lisab says:

    As California’s labor shortage grows, farmers race to replace workers with robots

  1153. Tina says:

    It is strange that none of team obumbler, such as you tube rice, simpson, etc., are willing to testify.

  1154. lisab says:

    As California’s labor shortage grows, farmers race to replace workers with robots

    The Missouri Court of Appeals, Western District, this week affirmed the dismissal of a complaint by a female identified by the court only as R.M.A.

    She had sued the Blue Springs R-IV School District and its board of education because, after adopting a male name and changing the gender reference on her birth certificate, she still was being required by the school district to use facilities designated for females.

    Judges Victor Howard and Cynthia Martin made up a majority of the three-judge panel that affirmed a lower court’s dismissal of the case.

    The girl alleged her exclusion from the boys’ restrooms and locker rooms subjected her “to different requirements for accessing the services of the school” due to gender.

    However, the school argued that the Missouri Human Rights Act, under which the claim was filed, “does not extend its protection to claims based on gender identity.”

  1155. lisab says:

    The Trump Administration has essentially “abolished” the practice of deferring deportations for illegal aliens in immigration court, a new report claims.
    A new study by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) finds that under Trump’s immigration orders, attorneys with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) are no longer asking for prosecutorial discretion when it comes to deporting illegal aliens.

  1156. Cash Cow TM says:

    Apparently the rest of the members of the HHR National Health Care Committee have no interest in discussing how we can get a successful Repeal and Replace of ACA completed and sent to Congress.

    That is a shame.

    The Cow was revved up for the task.
    Guess I will have more time to work on my book…

    “The tame team etam meat, mate!
    The tsar’s star rats’ tars arts was simply terrible.
    It was rapt in a part tarp trap!”
    the sore rose roes arose as Ned’s dens sends ends. He wore a vile live evil veil.”

  1157. lisab says:

    Joy Reid

    Donald Trump married one American (his second wife) and two women from what used to be Soviet Yugoslavia: Ivana-Slovakia, Melania-Slovenia.

  1158. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 21, 2017 at 8:43 pm
    If they i tercepted communicatins, it means wiretapping. No previous asmininstration has done this to the opposition candidate, or incoming administration.

    – They were wiretapping the Russian ambassador. Every foreign ambassador is wiretapped. That’s standard operating procedure. The story doesn’t say they recorded Sessions and the ambassador speaking. The wiretap is of the ambassador relaying what he learned from Sessions back to Moscow. At least that’s how I read it.

  1159. Diamond Jim says:

    😉

  1160. Diamond Jim says:

    MCC

  1161. Tina says:

    Manu Raju @mkraju
    ·
    13h

    FUSION GPS head Glenn Simpson won’t testify before Senate Judiciary next week, his rep attacks “partisan” hearing and vows to plead Fifth

  1162. Tina says:

    Nice fairy tale, rottie.

  1163. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    40m

    A new INTELLIGENCE LEAK from the Amazon Washington Post,this time against A.G. Jeff Sessions.These illegal leaks, like Comey’s, must stop!

    Charge the leakers.

  1164. Tina says:

    Got to love, the amazon washingtin post.

  1165. Jonesy says:

    Bezos Post. Good to see the FTC putting unfair biz practice against amazon feelers out there.

    Sessions was a sitting US Senator. They all talk to foreign diplomats, including Dems

  1166. Tina says:

    Joy Reid @JoyAnnReid
    Replying to @JoyAnnReid
    Donald Trump married one American (his second wife) and two women from what used to be Soviet Yugoslavia: Ivana-Slovakia, Melania-Slovenia.

    She needs a geography lesson.

  1167. Tina says:

    Trump tweets that ny times interfered in getting isis leader.

  1168. Jonesy says:

    Wobbie always protects the MSM and Deep state Tina. Disgusting

  1169. Tina says:

    They are trying to pull a flynn on sessions, jonesy. This may piss off sessions, where he unrecuses himself. But it will end when he starts charging the keakers.

    It is clear that the team obumbker wiretapped.

  1170. Tina says:

    The wiretaps were illegal, including flynns.

  1171. Tina says:

    Joy does not sound like she is for interracial marriages.

  1172. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SebGorka/status/888636455609913344/photo/1

    Muh russian issue is way at the botom of the list of things that matter.

  1173. Tina says:

    Lots of great coversge for mooch as comm. director. Definetly an upgrade,

    He reports directly tomtrump, bypassing rinse prubus.

    I intentionally mispell reinces name because I like the way dr. Carsn pronounced it at one of the debates.

  1174. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    27m

    While all agree the U. S. President has the complete power to pardon, why think of that when only crime so far is LEAKS against us.FAKE NEWS

  1175. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    18m

    So many people are asking why isn’t the A.G. or Special Council looking at the many Hillary Clinton or Comey crimes. 33,000 e-mails deleted?

    Boom, comey crimes.

  1176. Tina says:

    …What about all of the Clinton ties to Russia, including Podesta Company, Uranium deal, Russian Reset, big dollar speeches etc.
    4:47 AM – 22 Jul 2017

  1177. Trump says:

    Since when is talking to Russians against the law?

  1178. Trump says:

    If it is, then bush, Clinton, Obama are all war criminals.

  1179. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt and the Mrs. will be heading into D.C. with friends to see the play “The King and I”.

    Or is it the King and Me?

    +++++++

    Since they are not taking Walt’s car, they will not let me go. They say 7 is a crowd, whatever that means.

    My assigned job will be to stay here all day and search for the antenna booster.

    the brand new TV will not pick up channel 5 out of Washington. And now none of the other 2 tvs are getting the station either.

  1180. Cash Cow TM says:

    I just hope big city values do not rub off on Walt….

  1181. jason says:

    Branden Grace shoots the first 62 in a majors at the Open.

  1182. Tina says:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort-idUSKBN1A70F8

    These unnamed obumbker sources are actually getting better at writing fiction.

    Btw, manafort, no fan of, was already investigated.

  1183. Bitterlaw says:

    The best way to demonstrate that you and your advisors did nothing wrong is to tweet about Presidential pardons? Seriously?

  1184. Bitterlaw says:

    Deep state? Is the headquarters on the grassy knoll?

  1185. Jonesy says:

    what a round, Jason.

  1186. lisab says:

    supposedly wikileaks is about to drop a bunch more emails or documents

    rumor is that it has something about russia in it

    maybe russia and hillary? they have not been specific. there is a lot of mention of hillary’s missing emails

  1187. Trump says:

    Collusion is not a crime.

  1188. Trump says:

    Deep State made my son do it. He didn’t want to. All will come out tomorrow.

  1189. Trump says:

    The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.

  1190. Jonesy says:

    Crain’s Chicago Business

    Majority of Financial Futures Traders applaud Trump’s deleting of regulations. Predict Economy will stay strong thru 2020, and Trump will be re-elected.

  1191. Jonesy says:

    No incumbent since Taft in 1912, has lost a second term with a decent to good economy.

    Taft also lost due to Teddy R. running third party.

  1192. Jonesy says:

    Left and Never Trumpers hoping for a miracle with Mueller, because they know the economy will be good.

  1193. Trump says:

    We’ll have Russia helping us too in 2020!

  1194. lisab says:

    i don’t know

    i think russia is pretty pissed off they gave all that money to the clintons and then hillary lost

  1195. lisab says:

    i think you need to know how the economy is doing in oh, mi, wi, and pa

    they will determine the election

  1196. Trump says:

    Wobbie is helping the Deep State defeat America in ISIS.

  1197. Trump says:

    Russia didn’t like Hillary. She tried to overthrow Putin in Russian elections. She was their enemy despite what the Fake Media says.

  1198. lisab says:

    “Russia didn’t like Hillary.”

    perhaps, that did not stop them from giving her and bill lots of money though

  1199. Bitterlaw says:

    Deep state? Zzzzzzzz. Most government employees don’t even want to do their jobs. I doubt any of yhem have the energy or interest to secretly run the country. “I am going to make the economy cra…oh. There’s a 3 day weekend coming up? Never mind.”

  1200. lisab says:

    it is more about not doing their job Bitter than anything else.

    i once had a passport issue while overseas. the consul officer of the american embassy did not like me and would not help me — he did not like peace corps people for some reason.

    i called kerry’s and kennedy’s offices. kerry would not help me. kennedy’s office had a nice man who told me it would be taken care of, and that i should go back the next day. i did. the consul office was furious … he said he would help me, but could not give me a firm date … maybe in 10 days maybe in 9 months. i called kennedy’s office back. the nice man said to go back the next day and it would be taken care of.

    i go back the next day, the consul office was closed to the public, it was normally closed on that day of the week. they let me in. most of the lights are off.

    the consul officer was there — with a man i never saw before looking over his shoulder as the consul officer processed my paperwork. the new guy did not say anything to me or even acknowledge my existence, he just was standing and watching the consul officer fill out my paperwork.

    it was glorious! never mess with the lion of the senate!

    it was one reason i did not like kerry. he did not help me.

  1201. lisab says:

    nice man: dear mr. consul officer, one of senator kennedy’s constituents needs a new passport and the senator is concerned that you will be fired from your job and left to die in central china … please fill out her paperwork tomorrow … thank you.

  1202. lisab says:

    nice man: dear mr. consul officer, perhaps i did not make myself clear, i mean do it tomorrow! and just to make sure there are no slip ups, i want another foreign officer to watch while you process her paperwork.

  1203. lisab says:

    literally the man was so angry he was purple. no joke, his face was purple. consul officers are very powerful in embassies. one step below ambassador.

    i got my stuff though.

  1204. lisab says:

    there are conflicting reports, but supposedly 28,000 hillary emails were given to wikileaks recently, within the last two weeks

    and may drop any time

  1205. Walt says:

    Are here now at the Kennedy Center.
    First time for me.

  1206. Wes says:

    You know, I ordinarily stay out of the Trump arguments. This time I’m weighing in:

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/can-president-trump-pardon/

    When a President is actively considering a self-pardon–something the Constitution doesn’t allow–that says nothing good to me. At worst it’s a PR faux pas and fuels the opposition’s narrative. At worst it’s a tacit admission of potrntially criminal wrongdoing.

    I don’t see how even Tina can defend Trump on this.

  1207. Wes says:

    The first “at worst” should be “at least.”

  1208. lisab says:

    the conspiracy theory is that something really bad about hillary and russia is about to drop

    and that pompeo knows what it is, and that it may require a pardon or pardons

    although personally i think assange does not have anything yet. wishful thinking on trumpers parts.

  1209. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Please give Tina the credit she deserves. She can defend Trump for anything. Anything.

  1210. Bitterlaw says:

    If Trump did shoot somebody and said, “Tina! I shot him. I did it!” She would say it’s fake news. Then she would blame Comey.

  1211. Wes says:

    Sadly many Trumpistas will defend anything Trump does, Bitter. I see nothing to defend here. Trump has clearly made an unforced error.

  1212. biomom says:

    Did Trump actually say he would pardon himself? I think that may have been an extension of what he actually said put out thereby the press.

  1213. Bitterlaw says:

    Many news outlets go out of the way to attack Trump.

    Trump often says stupid things.

    Both can be true.

  1214. Wes says:

    Bio mom, no, Trump didn’t single himself out specifically but did claim he has the absolute power to pardon all involved. That would include the President himself.

    What Trump needs to do is shut up about pardons right now. As I noted above, he only fuels the fire and looks guilty by blathering sbout pardoning himself or anyone else.

    This is one instance where I feel his desire to hit back at his detractors has backfired by unintentionally giving them ammunition in what previously looked like a witchhunt.

    What Trump should do is what Bill Clinton did in 1998 when Gingrich tried to have him impeached because of Lewinsky:

    He should undermine his political opponents’ credibility by claiming they’re just trying to overthrow a duly elected President and highlighting their own faux pas.

    It worked miraculously for Clinton because he looked like a victim fighting back against partisan hacks.

    Asserting the power of preemptive pardons does the opposite for Trump by implying knowing culpability.

  1215. Redmen4ever says:

    Why Russia did not like Hillary? hmmm … could it be that she funneled weapons and other support to Al Qaida which was attacking Russia (in addition to all their other mischief)?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441008/wikileaks-hillary-clintons-isis-memo-plan-arm-syrian-rebels

    Word is Trump is terminating this brain spasm of the world’s smartest woman, and that the Gulf States are pressuring Qatar to do the same.

  1216. Trump says:

    Trump says things thut turn out to be true. Bugatti why he wins.

    Triggers the morons and haters.

  1217. Tina says:

    Since my name was invoked, i do not see where he is actively seeking a pardon.

    There is no crime, so pardoning is a moot issue.

    I do not get into what he states. I do not care. I do comment on the articles from the wp or slimes because I do have some background to comment, and I pick apart their stories.

    I am not going tomget into thoughts of pardoning, or analysing tweets.

  1218. Jonesy says:

    Wes, you lost me at PBS News hour. I do not believe a word they say or link.

  1219. Tina says:

    For all we know mueller could be looking into hillary. However. He places his credibility on the line and I do not know how he credibly can examine hillary or comedy when this hapoened

    FLASHBACK: Hillary Clinton Ordered Mueller To Deliver Uranium To Russians In ‘Secret Tarmac Meeting’

  1220. Jonesy says:

    1257. Well said Wes. Make the media fake news the boogeyman, it works for Trump.

    Wes, would Clinton have been impeached in the Senate, if the economy was bad in 1998?

  1221. Jonesy says:

    Tina, Wes is right. Hillary is a weakened old horse.

    Go after the credibility of Comey, Pelosi, and Schumer

  1222. Trump says:

    Trump appears to be the purest politician ever.

    Two plus years of incessant investigations by all the world’s. Intelligence agencies and the global media have turned up zilch.

    So they have to manufacture a non-involvement with a non-crime to keep their outrage going.

    If trump shot someone on fifth avenue, he would be on mt. Rushmore. If that someone was Pelosi, he’d would be acclaimed president for life.

  1223. Jonesy says:

    Spicer is a good man. Showed grace yesterday, and was loyal to the end.

    Fat Pig Melissa McCarthy lost her gig on SNL

  1224. Tina says:

    Jonesy, i am not going to get into stupid talk about pardoning, what the president can or cannot do, or fire mueller.

    I said muellers inquisition will end quickly. It cannot continue given his friendships wiith comedy or her thighness. Rosensteins order is narrow and he can shut it down,

    It also ends if comedy is charged by sessions/doj. Rather than focus on winner or whatever her name is, they need to pick off the top fruit.

  1225. Jonesy says:

    It is not being reported unless you watch the Financial channels, but Trump is scoring behind the scenes on Regs and easing red tape for small Biz.

  1226. lisab says:

    trump supporters support him because the republican and democrat parties have both abandoned the non-government employee middle and working classes

    if you are rich, non-working, or a government employee you can easily afford health care now. if you are on welfare you can go to the doctor weekly at no charge

    if you are working class you can easily face a $4,000 deductible before your insurance kicks in.

  1227. Trump says:

    Markets up about 20 percent since trump became president.

    Because the GOP congress has done a stellar job. Ha ha ha.

    Cruising to reelection.

  1228. Jonesy says:

    Well said Lisa. spot on

  1229. Tina says:

    20 percent reduction in regulations.

    This by a so called drat and asks for an immediate repeal of onumbkercare, which the so called phony cons in the congess do not want

    He was not my first choice, but he gets my support for enforcing laws on illegal immigration, tax cuts, Gorsuch, cutting spending and the drbt by $100 billion, etc.

    I doubt that any other r candidate woukd have done all of thise same things, with flub, it would have been amnesty, souter 3.0., etc.

  1230. Tina says:

    Is he perfect no, is he spiteful, yes. Does he tweet too much, maybe.

    I just do not get into all this cute forced error bs.

  1231. lisab says:

    as long as trump keeps making things better for the working and middle class, they will support him

    the decrease in illegal immigration alone is causing california to modernize their agriculture. the big farmers cannot get the cheap labor they need so they are upgrading to robots

  1232. Tina says:

    We have a list of campaign promises that are up on Steve Bannon’s wall and we’re going right through those campaign promises and so that we can tell the American people that we are citizen politicians … we’re not career politicians or establishment players that just want to sit in Washington and milk the system,” he said.

    MOOCHS FIFST INTERVIEW TO BREITBART. notice. Bannons chack board wall. He is till there, even though he was a goner.

  1233. Trump says:

    GOP cannot repeal Obamacare because free market insurance does not provide opportunities for corruption and graft.

  1234. Tina says:

    I noticed no illegal immigrants outside of home depot, lisa

  1235. PresidentPaul! says:

    “– No, it’s not. Among other things, I strongly object to Trump’s protectionist trade policies and Trump’s decision to cozy up to Putin, a man who kills journalists and invades portions of other countries to annex them like Georgia and Ukraine.”

    He “cozied up” up only according to the media and that was after the election.

    btw Rubio and Jeb are clearly insane based on their immigration policies, support of invading Iraq and both supported a war criminal.

  1236. Tina says:

    If Glenn Simpson’s emails get subpoenaed, we’ll see just how many top journalists he was feeding his garbage to. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2629396

  1237. PresidentPaul! says:

    Senate to move further to right if McCain decides to leave.

    https://www.circa.com/story/2017/07/20/politics/senator-john-mccains-brain-cancer-diagnosis-may-tilt-the-senates-balance-right


    McCain is known for challenging his Republican colleagues and working with lawmakers across the aisle to craft balanced legislation.
    “Absent John McCain in the United States Senate, you end up with somebody who’s probably more of a garden variety Republican and you end up with legislation that probably goes through a lot quicker, but you don’t end up with a centrist piece of legislation or at least something that’s closer to the center,” Cohen said.

    “I don’t see another person in that seat making the same kinds of choices and holding the same kinds of conversations. John McCain is a unique person in American politics.”

  1238. Jonesy says:

    Tina, I wanted a fighter. After Romney wimped out after the First debate in 2012, and McCain played Gentleman John in 2008.

    I also knew that that nobody in the GOP Field could win any of the Blue Wall besides Trump. Kasich would have won Ohio but nothing else. Rubio would not won in the rust Belt.

    Trump is bash, and makes some stupid mistakes, but I still support him against the Marxist Left and the Vichy GOP

  1239. Jonesy says:

    1281. Not with Goober, Collins and Murkowski still there

  1240. PresidentPaul! says:

    Get rid of Red colors for election night make GOP green for Kek

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500754649873.jpg

  1241. lisab says:

    while the media focuses on russia

    african american employment is up over 500,000 jobs compared to last summer (white employment is up too)

    black unemployment is the lowest it has been since 1972, the earliest data available except for one month, april 2000 when black unemployment was 7.0%

    last month it was 7.1%

  1242. lisab says:

    in other words, in the last 45 years only one month had a better black unemployment rate

  1243. PresidentPaul! says:

    1282
    Your first mistake was voting for McCain and Romney.

  1244. PresidentPaul! says:

    US government has an actual Government Troll Training Program.

    Now we know where Jason and Robbie came from.

    https://theintercept.com/document/2014/02/24/art-deception-training-new-generation-online-covert-operations

    The Art of Deception: Training for a New Generation of Online Covert Operations

  1245. PresidentPaul! says:

    Somali immigrants blending right into Minn police force

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/witness-emerges-justine-damond-murder-somali-officer-mohamed-noor-still-will-not-testify/

    Police chief to resign.

    Calls for Mayor to resign, but no one can call for Obama&Bush to resign since they are long gone.

  1246. lisab says:

    you are from somalia? here have a gun. just like back home.

  1247. PresidentPaul! says:

    For some reason Obama decided to put all the Somali immigrants into Minneapolis, but they were the ones who helped elect him.

    Or did Bush decide that?
    ,

  1248. lisab says:

    i heard that the cop actually shot across his partner

    inside the car

    i am not sure how loud a police gun is, but i cannot imagine the other officer was happy

    shooting a gun in a car cannot be good for your hearing

  1249. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1994. “As California’s labor shortage grows, farmers race to replace workers with robots”

    This sinister trend began when farmers started using tractors and machine harvesters, the job lose was incredible. Once over 80% of the population had farming jobs, now its below 10%.

    By giving all the snowflakes a hoe, and sending them out to do subsistence farming, we can greatly reduce greenhouse gases and save the planet! Why isn’t Bernie on top of this one?

  1250. PresidentPaul! says:

    Robbie, Jason, Wed etc- here is numbersUSA explaining why you are wrong on immigration and refugees.

    World immigration, poverty and gumballs.

    Even if we 100X folded our immigration rate, it would be a drop in the bucket.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

  1251. lisab says:

    or did bush decide that?
    ——–

    that actually goes back to clinton

    remember black hawk down

  1252. lisab says:

    By giving all the snowflakes a hoe, and sending them out to do subsistence farming, we can greatly reduce greenhouse gases and save the planet! Why isn’t Bernie on top of this one?
    —–

    hubby’s family are farmers. it is ridiculously hard work.

    cows get milked at 4 am

    snowflakes go to bed at 4am, it is not a good fit

  1253. PresidentPaul! says:

    The grain farmers I know have become extremely profitable in recent years. Most of them work 8 weeks a year basically 7 days a week during those peak times.

    4 weeks in the Spring and 4 weeks in the fall, and they are making minimum 300K. Of course their equipment and farm are paid for already.

  1254. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1296. I used to milk cows, but was lazy and started at 5:00 a.m.

    Your right though, never mention “hard work” to snowflakes; its a micro-aggression, and displays great insensitivity. Telling them you have to work hard for a living reflects a cultural bias they find offensive.

  1255. lisab says:

    once when we were dating i was visiting his family and a baby cow somehow got on the wrong side of a barbed wire fence from the mama cow. instead of walking around the fence baby cow decided to go through it, with angry mama cow fussing on the other side

    hubby and his cousin had to take the fence down with their hands, getting all scratched up in the process, the two cows in question not helping in any way

    one of the few times i have heard my hubby utter bad language … i think he would have preferred to shoot them both

  1256. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1297. There is a little more to it than that, and bad weather, infestation by a pests, and market factors can make life miserable for farmers. You can work extremely hard in a given year, and face a market price for you crop which causes you to lose money.

    Don’t assume farms and farm equipment are already paid, there is a heavy amount of debt among farmers. A bad year can result in a mountain of bills.

  1257. PresidentPaul! says:

    Must be why farmers like their early afternoon nap.

  1258. PresidentPaul! says:

    Just the ones I know I meant are paid for I was referring to.

  1259. Tina says:

    Jonesy, romney choked. We should have won.

    Btw, was the brokered convention call 2098 or 2012? I really forgot all the lunancy and conspiracy theories.

  1260. lisab says:

    cows look all sweet and nice, but when a 300 pound animal decides to go through a fence, they do

    and mama cow was much bigger than that

  1261. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1299.

    Sounded like no fun. Cows can be grumpy. Always enjoyed watching a new-born calf having their first run around a field, with the mother following closely behind. Its an amazing sight to see a new-born animal doing that shortly after birth.

  1262. lisab says:

    Don’t assume farms and farm equipment are already paid, there is a heavy amount of debt among farmers. A bad year can result in a mountain of bills.
    ———-

    i think the farmers in illinois are fairly wealthy, but cash poor. their money is all in the land and equipment.

  1263. PresidentPaul! says:

    Romney would have had zero SC picks, passed amnesty, invaded Iran, continued torture, and done a surge in Iraq.

    After all that mess, the dems would have slaughtered him in 2016.

    It was for the best that Romney won.

  1264. PresidentPaul! says:

    “i think the farmers in illinois are fairly wealthy, but cash poor. their money is all in the land and equipment.”

    At least they have the ability to hide their money into new reinvestment instead of taxes unlike the most.

  1265. Wes says:

    Can I dispel the myth that Romney was ever going to win in 2012? He trailed Obama the whole time except for the immediate aftermath of the first presidential debate. In October, the economy posted superficially good numbers, and Obama began rallying the OWS loons. Then Sandy hit right before the election, and Obama looked presidential in the response.

    Romney was never going to win. That he caused Obama to lose ground across the board in that election was a remarkable feat, but things would have had to be worse in 2012 for Obama to lose.

    Of course Obama won a pyrrhic victory because his campaign in 2012 created a schism between the Dems and white voters who had previously supported them, leading directly to the results in 2014 and 2016.

  1266. lisab says:

    1305

    i guess cows can be actually dangerous if they get angry, and they can be injured if they fall

    so the fence had to come down right then before mama cow flipped out

  1267. PresidentPaul! says:

    Pompeo was the WORST of pick Trump made.

    CIA Chief: WikiLeaks Will Take Down America Any Way They Can
    Declares Group a ‘Non-State Hostile Intelligence Service’

    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/07/21/cia-chief-wikileaks-will-take-down-america-any-way-they-can/

  1268. Tina says:

    I cannit understand why the cop fired at her, while she was speaking to his partner. She was not armed.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/witness-emerges-justine-damond-murder-somali-officer-mohamed-noor-still-will-not-testify/

    I noticed hiw hhr is sikent on this as well as the media. But last year p, hhr was not sikent when the cop shot into the vehicle when a so called concealed carry person pulled a gun on the cop. You remember, it was all on facebook.

  1269. Tina says:

    Some of the hhr regulars were fooled imto believing the drug asdict gf.

  1270. Tina says:

    And the somali cops partner is a witness. A wnother witness emerges woukd be the correct headline.

  1271. Tina says:

    The whole mueller tries to turn manafort story is fake news, Muellers press person said thst manafort is not a cooperating witness.

  1272. Tina says:

    Mueller does seem incompetent

    Mueller was FBI DIRECTOR during…..

    1. Iraq War intel hoax
    2. Fast and furious
    3. AP and Rosen spying
    4. Clinton emails
    5. Holder contempt

  1273. Trump says:

    Wes is right that Romney would never hav won n 2012.

    The reason is much simpler than what Wes says. Romney, from day one, had no chance in Ohio. His remarks about letting Detroit go bankrupt was as tone-deaf as Hilary’s driving coal miners out of jobs.

  1274. jason says:

    Wobbie hardest hit:

    “It appears Trump supporters are just as on board as they were during the campaign. His support among Republicans matches the third-highest approval among a president’s own party during a new president’s first six months in more than 60 years, according to Gallup.”

  1275. jason says:

    cannit understand why the cop fired at her, while she was speaking to his partner. She was not armed.”:

    You probably don’t know all the facts, as they haven’t been divulged.

    There are some reports the driver cop says a firecracker or loud noise occurred just as the woman ran up to the window of the cop car. In a dark alley with a report of a violent assault, the cop who fired could have thought they were being attacked.

    I find it hard the cop fired across his partner because he wanted to kill an innocent person. More likely he was spooked and made a mistake.

    My general view on these type of incidents is that I give the cop the benefit of the doubt.

  1276. Tina says:

    She was the complaintant. She reported it. Cops partner is stunned.

  1277. Tina says:

    She was speaking tomthe cops partner.

  1278. jason says:

    Can I dispel the myth that Romney was ever going to win in 2012? ”

    It’s not a myth and no.

    He seemed to have a lot of momentum before Sandy hit. He was leading in at least one poll, close in others.

    I think that took the wind out of Romney’s sails.

    Maybe he still wouldn’t have won, but it would have been a lot closer.

    Obama had a lot of advantages, yes. But he was in some trouble.

  1279. jason says:

    She was speaking tomthe cops partner.”

    I don’t think so.

    From what I read he fired as soon as she got to the window, before they knew who she was.

  1280. jason says:

    Doesn’t sound like there was any conversation..

    “The officer who was driving the patrol car told investigators that right after the loud noise, Damond approached the car on his side. The officer who was in the passenger seat then fatally shot Damond through the driver’s side window, according to investigators.”

  1281. jason says:

    From these reports you can make an argument that the cop on the passenger seat thought he heard a gunshot and then in the dark someone approached the car on the driver’s side so he thought it was someone hostile.

  1282. Bitterlaw says:

    The fact that the police officer was from Somalia is irrelevant to me. I guess it fits some kind of narrative for some people but it does not make this shooting any more or less tragic.

    I will let the investigation play out. I generally begin by giving the police the benefit of the doubt but I suspect that this will turn out to be a very deadly error rather than having any more of a motive.

  1283. Tina says:

    Damond was shot and killed while wearing her pajamas and speaking to another police officer. Damond called 911 that night to report a possible assault in an alley behind her home on July 15, reports The Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    http://m.startribune.com/australian-woman-justine-damond-fatally-shot-by-minneapolis-police-officer/434782213/

  1284. Tina says:

    She was an unarmed complaintant per the reports.

    Cannot justify the cops firing and refusal to give a report.

  1285. Tina says:

    CBS Minneapolis reported that Damond “made the 911 call and was speaking to police officers Saturday night. They were near the alley when the officer in the passenger seat reached across and shot her. A cell phone was found near Damond’s body.”

  1286. Tina says:

    Makes no sense why he did this. They must have missed something is his psy. Profile.

  1287. Bitterlaw says:

    Interesting. Tina accepts news accounts without question about the police shooting. Maybe not all news is fake. At least if it does not involve Trump.

  1288. Tina says:

    Bitterlaw, it is several accounts. The sources are identified.

    This is nit about trump.

  1289. Tina says:

    Muh russian is fake though and you know it, or maybe you believe it because you were at a cocktail oarty.

  1290. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not know if the Russia stories are fake, real, or somewhere in between. I will reserve judgment for a few years and then get back to you.

  1291. Tina says:

    Collussion is fake betwwen russia and trump, bl.

    I have not made a decision on russian interfernce in our election, i hope some evidemce comes out one year.

    Nice evening

  1292. Bitterlaw says:

    As I said, I will reserve judgment. I will not declare anything fake or true at this time.

  1293. Wes says:

    Jason, Romney had momentum after the first debate. That dissipated in subequent weeks. Leading in one poll while trailing all others is no sign of momentum.

    I like Romney and think he would have been a great President. He ran a lackluster campaign though that ultimately showed life only briefly and couldn’t overcome the advantages Obama had.

    There’s exactly no evidence Romney was ever likely to win that election though he certainly did the yeoman’s work of keeping it close so Republicans wouldn’t be wiped out downballot.

  1294. San Diego Citizen says:

    Since there are some on this board who are counting the days until Trump is up for re-election, below is a count kept by opponents of Alberta’s premier:

    “Days Until Notley is Defeated

    666 Days
    15991 Hours
    959494 Minutes
    575696677 Seconds
    until Sunday, May 19, 2019 (Calgary time)”

    If some on this board would make similar calculations, it might give them solace in their time of need & despair.

  1295. JC says:

    8 people found dead in a truck here in San Antonio last night. The semi was found parked at a Walmart, with 38 people on board.

    For the last few days, temperatures have ranged from 100 – 106 degrees here.

  1296. Jonesy says:

    May they Rest in Peace. No Human deserves that, JC.

    the driver of the truck should be tried for murder

  1297. Tina says:

    U.S withholds $50 million in Pakistan military payment funds over inaction against militant Islamist Haqqani Network

    Sifnificant policy change.

  1298. Bitterlaw says:

    The driver of the truck and anybody who arranged the trip on that truck should be charged with murder.

  1299. jason says:

    Tina’s insistence that the woman was “talking to the officer in the driver’s seat” is fake news.

    According to that officer:

    “The officer who was driving the patrol car told investigators that right after the loud noise, Damond approached the car on his side. The officer who was in the passenger seat then fatally shot Damond through the driver’s side window, according to investigators.”

    I think Bitter has it right:

    “Tbis will turn out to be a very deadly error rather than having any more of a motive.”

    It sounds to me that the Somali officer was spooked and made a big mistake thinking the woman was an attacker. There is nothing to suggest that there was a conversation going on where the officers were aware she was the party who made the 911 call.

  1300. jason says:

    She was an unarmed complaintant per the reports.”

    This a common fallacy used by cop haters, not suggesting Tina is a cop hater, just that this argument is bogus.

    Cops have the right to use deadly force if they feel they are in danger, and that doesn’t mean the attacker has to be armed. If you point a cell phone at an officer in the dark, for example, the officer might assume its a weapon. Or an unarmed attacker could rush the officer and the officer might consider his life in danger even if the suspect is unarmed. Reach into the glove compartment after an officer tells you to keep hands on the steering wheel and you could be shot even if you are reaching for your registration.

    I am not saying this officer was justified in shooting the Australian woman. He could be charged with involuntary manslaughter or something like that. But there is nothing to suggest this was more than an unfortunate mistake where the officer misread the situation.

  1301. jason says:

    Robbie, Jason, Wed etc- here is numbersUSA explaining why you are wrong on immigration and refugees.”

    You have the wrong guy, Bunu.

    I never said we should legalize 12 million illegals and if you want to work and live in America we will find a place for you.

    That was Rand Paul.

  1302. Tina says:

    Jason

    I agree with this, I am not saying this officer was justified in shooting the Australian woman. He could be charged with involuntary manslaughter or something like that. But there is nothing to suggest this was more than an unfortunate mistake where the officer misread the situation.

    I also added their cams were turned off or failed to operate. And he appears to have had inadequate training.

    I am not sure where we disagree.

  1303. Tina says:

    His training was rushed and he was buddied with a parnerr onnthe force for a year, not good imo,

  1304. jason says:

    I also added their cams were turned off or failed to operate. And he appears to have had inadequate training.

    I am not sure where we disagree.”

    I only disagreed with the idea that the woman was shot during a conversation with the driver. It appears she was shot as soon as she approached the window.

    As far a body cams, they don’t have to be turned on all the time, only in certain situations. In this case maybe things happened too fast.

    And yes, inadequate training definitely seems like a strong possibility here.

  1305. Wes says:

    Schumer is an egomaniacal liar obsessed with acquiring power. No wonder Il Mikey likes him.

  1306. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Markets up about 20 percent since trump became president.”

    LOL Loosah HHR Logic .. market triples under President Obama. HHR: Markets mean nothing!

    market up under the pussy grabber: Markets mean everything!!

    LOL dumb@sses!

  1307. lisab says:

    can someone find an anti-trump poll so david will put up a new thread?

  1308. Wes says:

    Markets also hit their lowest point since 1997 under Obama. That made it easy to triple once Republicans in Washington and the state houses in 2011 started enacting policies to counteract the damage Obama had done to the economy.

    Of course the market is up 20% during Trump’s first six months in office. How much of that is Trump’s direct doing is debatable. It is noteworthy though and, barring any significant drop in the market, will be a worthwhile legacy for Trump.

  1309. Wes says:

    PO, when Bill Clinton was in office, Democrats were always touting the great economy and soaring stock market. When Bush was in office, they always obfuscated the rising stock markets that existed from 2003 to 2006 and ignored the economy, which was good till late 2007.

    Hypocrites much?

  1310. Proud Obamacon says:

    Same for Republicans. Downplayed the markets under Obama, they were all FAKE number! Now it’s all real apparently.

    hypocrites right?

  1311. Trump says:

    Presidents get credit or blame for economy.

    Cruising to reelection.

  1312. Trump says:

    Trump would secure president for life if he shot schumer on fifth avenue.

  1313. lisab says:

    A Michigan Marxist Restaurant Closes After Failed Group Decisions and Long Sandwich Waits

    A Grand Rapids bastion of Marxist politics and vegan burgers is shutting down after five years in business. And some are likening its closure to the fall of communism.

    The Garden Diner and Café—replete with wall murals of Che Guevara in a chef’s apron and raised fists clutching asparagus sprigs—had eschewed tips in favor of paying its workers a living wage and scorned traditional management methods.
    And while its vegan, vegetarian and raw food fare was mostly a hit, Vice’s Munchies reports, its unpredictable opening hours, slow service and 40-minute waits for a sandwich, strained customer patience.

    Thad Cummings, one of the restaurant’s original investors, told local Michigan site MLive that the Garden Diner and Café, which was called Bartertown Diner until September, had struggled to pay its workers or turn a profit.

    The restaurant’s (now-defunct) Facebook page was flooded with complaints from patrons angry at its slow service. Patrons hungry for a sandwich would find the café shuttered at odd times, thanks to opening hours set by employee group decision.

  1314. lisab says:

    London gay Pride march. Police happy with “Jesus is Gay” banners. But banned @theCEMB’s “Allah is Gay” banner. @KPFA-grade hypocrisy!

  1315. lisab says:

    Clinton, who approved a deal granting Russia control of 20 percent of America’s uranium assets, has criticized rival Donald Trump for allegedly wanting to “support Putin.”

    In paid remarks to private groups, Clinton boasted of having a personal relationship with Putin, according to excerpts released by the organization Wikileaks this weekend. Democratic operatives, including vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine, have neither confirmed nor denied the authenticity of the Wikileaks document.

  1316. lisab says:

    So Jesus is going over the bill for the Last Supper when the apostles notice he has closed his eyes, and is rubbing the bridge of his nose. Exasperated, he asks: “Why… WHY would anyone order wine?”

  1317. lisab says:

    ‘Yeah I did it’: Singer Lana Del Rey admits using witchcraft to place a hex on President Trump

  1318. janz says:

    I don’t understand why the GOP Congress doesn’t push this healthcare repeal/replace argument more? —> CBO’s secret: three-fourths of coverage difference between Obamacare and GOP bills driven by individual mandate.

  1319. lisab says:

    Hillary announces a $6 billion dollar inheritance from an uncle

  1320. Trump says:

    1367:

    Incompetent, and scared of media.

    They don’t believe their own ideas, are bullied into supporting Medicaid expansion, and other assorted failings.

    Fighting back would endanger lobbyist money.

  1321. lisab says:

    ‘Israeli man injured and Jordanian suspect killed’ after reported attack at Israeli embassy in Amman

  1322. lisab says:

    the Republican National Committee is trouncing the Democratic National Committee when it comes to raising money, especially from small donors.

    The numbers are striking. In June, the RNC raised $13.5 million to the DNC’s $5.5 million.

    For 2017 so far, the RNC has raised $75.4 million to the DNC’s $38.2 million.

    The RNC started the year with $25.3 million in cash on hand. Now it has $44.7 million. The DNC started the year with $10.5 in cash on hand. Now, that has fallen to $7.5 million.

    As of June 30, the RNC reported $0 in debt. The DNC reported $3.3 million in debt.

  1323. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Kid is on a roll in Michigan! +4 over Stabenow! LOL!

    https://delphianalytica.org/kidrock-stabenow-michigan/

  1324. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://fringearts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Goodfellas_094Pyxurz.jpg

    Robbie, quick forward torpedo room…

    Load the Rock star into tube two and prepare to fire!

  1325. PresidentPaul! says:

    4 in 10 US woman now THIC

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500841262227.png

  1326. PresidentPaul! says:

    #1372

    Wait until Jeb&Marco find out that Russia made that poll!

  1327. Bitterlaw says:

    It is almost time to find out if Michael Phelps is faster than a great white shark. I think the shark wins.

  1328. PresidentPaul! says:

    Michigan Obama transformation

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1500848554141.gif

  1329. PresidentPaul! says:

    Scaramucci: I’d like to thank Jake Tapper for giving me a tour where I got to meet all 8 CNN viewers

  1330. Presidentpaul! says:

    That’s not counting the people at the airport who are forced to watch CNN though.

  1331. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://www.foxsportsasia.com/news/weidman-submits-gastelum-calls-out-bisping

    Charlie Weidman who is Chris Weidman’s father storms into the ring to celebrate Weidman’s submission win during his UFC Fight Night

  1332. Bitterlaw says:

    Shark beats Phelps!