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Moore/Strange Lead AL GOP Primary Race

I come back from a week plus long vacation with no Internet and find out the United States is on the brink of war with North Korea. Meanwhile, there is a primary election for the US Senate seat in Alabama currently occupied by Luther Strange and two polls show him trailing the front runner Roy Moore although both are in position to make the runoff.The polls come from Cyngal and L2 and from Strategy Research.

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY (Cygnal/L2)
Roy Moore 31%
Luther Strange (inc) 23%
Mo Brooks 18%
Trip Pittman 7%

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY (Strategy Research)
Roy Moore 35%
Luther Strange (inc) 29%
Mo Brooks 19%
Trip Pittman 9%
Everyone Else 1% or less

Both these polls were done August 9th among likely voters.

The primary election is August 15th.

Posted by Dave at 2:12 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (644)

644 Responses to “Moore/Strange Lead AL GOP Primary Race”

  1. Big Joe says:

    ONE

  2. Robbie says:

    Fingers crossed Trump’s endorsement of Strange gives him momentum heading into the primary and the runoff.

    Roy Moore, a clownish figure, would win the general election, but he’d probably make it a bit tighter than it should.

    More importantly, Roy Moore would be an obstinate mule when it comes to legislating. He would make Lee, Cruz, and Paul look like McConnell’s best friends.

  3. Trump says:

    That sounds like an endorsement for Roy Moore.

  4. Trump says:

    Sounds better than McCain, Collins and murkowski anyway.

  5. Jonesy says:

    4. Spot on. anything is better than McCain, but I could see Moore being a maverick and stopping legislation for his own benefit

  6. Jonesy says:

    That is the million dollar question for many conservatives.

    Here you have a deep red state in Alabama, with a chance to put in a real conservative, not a Thad Cochran porker.

    I do not know of Strange, but I like Mo Brooks

  7. Trump says:

    “Federal regs slowed to a crawl” – FoxNews

    Cruising to re-election.

  8. Bitterlaw says:

    Bunu identifies the Paulbots.

    NYC identifies the CODs, Akins, Mourdochs, Angles and Bucks.

    Jonesy does whatever Poster Trump says.*

    *Big league smart ass comment.

  9. Jonesy says:

    Mike Lee was a never Trumper during the election

  10. Trump says:

    Bitterlaw and Robbie identify the sub-cretin level species.

  11. Jonesy says:

    Lover of the Neocons Bitterlaw. Let’s start us a War

  12. Jonesy says:

    Never group Bitter with Robbie. Bitter held the nose and voted for Trump, Robbie for Hillary

  13. Jonesy says:

    Wow Wes, the GOP lost a lot of Governorships in 1970.

  14. Trump says:

    Voting is a sacred right. Exercise it with pride.

  15. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    The Utah Republican special election primary is four days away. A lot of PAC money is coming into the state attacking the front runner Mayor John Curtis, who is not considered far right enough by out-of-state interests.

    This add by Curtis is getting national attention. He shoots up the PAC literature. Curtis owns a company that owns target shooting facilities. In Utah that is a major political bonus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp4XNfYhMuQ&feature=youtu.be

  16. Trump says:

    What are the targets? Democrats and nevertrumpers, I hope.

  17. Bitterlaw says:

    Hmmmmmm. Ann Coulter hates Trump’s pick in Alabama.

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/10/ann-coulter-rips-trump-idiotic-luther-strange-endorsement

    The good news is that I don’t live in Alabama so I don’t have to support either candidate.

  18. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cow kinda likes the Strange guy.

    But of course Cow is also partial to Walt, who is strange…

  19. Bitterlaw says:

    Let’s start us a War

    Zzzzzzz. I have not called for a war with North Korea. It would be a terrible idea. However, if it starts launching missiles at Guam, force may be necessary. Of course, anti-war Jonesy will immediately support Trump no matter what he decides to do with North Korea.

  20. Cash Cow TM says:

    THANK YOU, MASSA DAVE, FOR THE NEW THREAD.

    BE LOOKING FOR A FRESH QUART OF MILK ON YOUR DOORSTEP.

  21. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie is sad. A third poll this week shows The Donald edging into the mid-40’s(RV) in approval.

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/blog/2017/08/11/trump-approval-august-4-10/

  22. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m still mad at Cash Cow about the Eagles-Packers game. I know that he was rooting for the cheeseheads.

  23. Cash Cow TM says:

    DOORSTEP

    do poster
    doe sport
    port odes
    STP rodeo?

  24. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitter,

    I do not give two hoots about the pigskin games anymore.
    maybe you are confusing me with Babe the pig.

    Baseball is the cowhide game.

  25. Cash Cow TM says:

    also…

    droop set
    root sped

  26. Cash Cow TM says:

    rod poets
    poet’s rod?
    door pets
    pet doors

  27. Cash Cow TM says:

    Now that Obama is no longer president, how long will it be before his college transcripts and all other date he had sealed can be opened to view?

  28. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    The reason we are in the current crisis over North Korea is that previous presidents have failed to act. North Korea’s nuclear program should have been taken out over a decade ago.

    If we don’t act now, it is only going to get worse. North Korea will threaten more and more, and expect to be paid off, as has happened in the past.

  29. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    28. As Hitler and World War Two showed, appeasement is not an effective long-term strategy.

  30. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw voted for Trump, yet that’s not good enough for Jonesy.

    The revolution devours its own.

  31. Jonesy says:

    Not anti- war Bitter, just not into the Neocon Wars.

    Like bombing Belgrade, while Bin Laden had Terror Training Camps in Kosovo

  32. Jonesy says:

    I respect Bitter, even though he is a smart ass at times. He voted for Trump in a Swing State to boot.

    He hates Trump, I hate McCain.

  33. Jonesy says:

    SD, FDR did Appease Hitler until Pearl Harbor.

  34. Robbie says:

    Easy to say North Korea should have been taken out over a decade ago. What’s not easy to say is the unimaginable destruction and death that would result from a conventional war between the North and the US/South.

    The level of fighting and killing would be on the order of Stalingrad. The American people, in the modern TV age, would never accept the casualties a war would produce.

    A full scale conventional war that last six months to a year would and then what? Are we going to be an occupying force with South Korea? Is China just going to sit back and let the North and South reunite? Would the North ever really surrender or just engage in guerrilla tactics that tied us down in Iraq?

    They have a nuke. There’s no turning back from that. Best to figure out how to deal with it.

  35. Jonesy says:

    What is going on with all of these Marine crashes?

  36. Jonesy says:

    Were we really screwed up was with China. should have pressured them on NKO back in the 90’s.

    Problem is that GE, Caterpillar and the rest of the Western Corp’s could care less about NKO. China is a goldmine

  37. Jonesy says:

    34. Tell that to the people of Japan, Seoul, Guam, Honolulu, and maybe San Fran , Robbie.

    Kim Jong is mentally ill like Hitler, and has hordes of Iranians working their launching sites.

    But hey its cool

  38. Robbie says:

    The North Koreans have no interest in attacking anyone in the region. They want a nuke for one reason. They want to prevent the US from invading because they live under the delusion the US wants to invade. Obviously, the US has no interest in invading that crap hole.

    North Korea has one goal and that’s regime preservation. They understand any attack on an ally of the US would prompt a US retaliation that would end North Korea’s existence in 30 minutes time. They’re not going to do something that prompts a response that wipes them off the map.

    But just so we’re clear, is the one who attacks others as being neocon lovers now arguing for a hostile action against North Korea?

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    I will fight with Jonesy all day. However, his work on behalf of special needs individuals makes him a good dude.

  40. Jonesy says:

    Wow. Cowboys must be pissed. Elliot 6 game suspension

  41. Jonesy says:

    Thanks Bitter. Now back to sparring

  42. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie:

    The people of North Korea do not want to die. I think that their leader does not care if he takes the country down with him. Look at his future:

    1. Oppress his people so they don’t finally say, “WTF?! We don’t need his fat ass running the show.”

    2. If he oppresses them too much, somebody may take him out.

    3. Stir up the anti-US hatred so people forget that they hate him.

    4. Stir it up too much and they go for option 2.

    I think that he knows his life ends in a crappy way. He just needs to know how many he is taking with him.

  43. Jonesy says:

    38. Well my late Father served in Korea, Robbie, and i believe he remembered being taken of a farm at 18 to fight a war started by China and North Korea.

    I do not want to strike NKO, I want pressure on Bejing for funding their madness.

  44. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    34.”They have a nuke. There’s no turning back from that. Best to figure out how to deal with it.”

    The point is their nuclear program should have been taken a decade ago, through a surgical strike.

    At this point of time, we allowed them to get nukes. So far they are unable to deliver them to the mainland U.S. If we do not take action now, soon they will be able to so. We still have the ability to take out their nuclear program and nukes — it is more complex now, but doing nothing will just allow it to get worse and worse.

    Many years ago, Israel took out Iraq’s growing nuclear program. Unfortunately, Obama prevented them from taking out Iran’s (Israel had Saudi support in this effort).

    Sticking our head in the sand like an ostrich is an insane policy. If the allies in World War II had stood up to Hitler earlier, it would likely have saved the world an amazing amount of suffering.

    Its hard to determine whether Obama’s domestic or foreign policies were the most disastrous for the country.

  45. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks Bitter. Now back to sparring

    Exactly. GFY.

  46. Jonesy says:

    42. Same thing as Cuba. The Secret police are brutal, and the people live in total fear.

    I use to believe, that the day Castro died, the people would come from the Hills and take over Havana. Never happened. Raul and his Gestapo would not allow it

  47. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    38. “The North Koreans have no interest in attacking anyone in the region. They want a nuke for one reason. They want to prevent the US from invading because they live under the delusion the US wants to invade.”

    Oh please. Sorry you lost your hero president Obama. North Korea has invaded South Korea once, and would very much like to do so again, and reunify Korea.

  48. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    43. “I do not want to strike NKO, I want pressure on Bejing for funding their madness.”

    We could start with placing a 25% tariff on all Chinese goods unless they cooperate with us in removing the current regime in North Korea. It could go into a fund to re-industrialize the U.S.

  49. NYCmike says:

    “Thanks Bitter. Now back to sparring”

    -Wimp.

    This should read “Thanks Bitter. Now GFY!”.

  50. NYCmike says:

    Looks like Bitterlaw was already trying to nurture a new A-Hole already in #45.

    Once an A-Hole, always an A-Hole.

  51. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Leftists used to call Reagan a war monger, and claimed he would cause World Ward III. In fact he caused the collapse of the Soviet Union and communism. When you stand up and take action, it is amazing how the bullies of the world back down.

  52. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitzen says:
    August 11, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Oh please. Sorry you lost your hero president Obama. North Korea has invaded South Korea once, and would very much like to do so again, and reunify Korea.

    – Oh please. My hero Obama? Give me a break.

    North Korea invaded South Korea 67 years ago and that was under Kim Il Sun when the Soviets and China supported his move. Now, Russia and China have no interest in North Korea invading the South.

    As for the North’s desire to invade and reunite with the South, big deal. It’s propaganda they serve up to their own people just like they claim Kim Il Sun was immaculately born on a mountain top.

    Finally, it sounds great to say a surgical strike would have worked, but two things. First, the knowledge wouldn’t have been lost. Second, the idea the North would have just accepted airstrikes and not counterattacked seems unwise.

  53. Jonesy says:

    Well Said SD. Reagan took down the USSR without one single direct missile

  54. Jonesy says:

    48. 25% would be great, but Wall Street etc.. would say that would push the Great China to rise to war..

  55. Jonesy says:

    Robbie and I probably agree on one thing. Admiration for Reagan..

    Reagan would have done the same thing as Trump, if he were POTUS in 2017 with NKO.

    Harsh Rhetoric

  56. lisab says:

    i know how we can get rid of kim jong un

    just leak that he has dirt on hillary

    he’ll be dead by monday

  57. Bitterlaw says:

    Looks like Bitterlaw was already trying to nurture a new A-Hole already in #45.

    The A-holes are currently closed for further entrants.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    What if the US dropped millions of Amazon gift cards in North Korea and sent in people armed with laptops for placing orders. Offer free shipping and Kim is out.

  59. lisab says:

    would say that would push the Great China to rise to war..
    ——————————

    they really cannot easily go to war with us

    china: we declare war

    usa: great … that trillion in usa treasuries you own? cancelled …

  60. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    If you have no bite, there is no reason to bark. If the Chinese realizes that Trump does not intend to back down, then my hunch is something positive will happen regarding North Korea.

  61. lisab says:

    UK police warn man to stop criticizing Islam on Facebook

    The owner of a Facebook page praising the Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has told their followers that they have been visited by two police officers who provided ‘advice’ that included a warning to stop posting content that is ‘critical of Islam.’
    According to an update on the page called The Church Of Mogg, the page itself was frozen by Facebook for two weeks, and the owner was advised that they could face arrest for ‘hate crimes’ if any further content of that nature is posted in the future.

  62. Tina says:

    Bad week for the jebots. Muh russian gong away, dnc leak internal, and trumps approval rebounding sharply.

  63. Tina says:

    Nk do not want to attack.

    Lol, stupid jebot lingo. They sunk a sk navy vessel killing 40 plus under obumbler

  64. NYCmike says:

    I was listening to talk radio several months ago, and there was a man on who had an interesting position on No Korea.

    He said that China was the entity taking advantage of the situation, to deter trade routes thru No Korea from Russia, and that the United States should seek to make peace with them, and with Russia, while leaving China out of it.

  65. Tina says:

    It is strange that republicans want to back down from nk, ut want to be involved in a civik war among jihadis in syria and libya.

  66. Tina says:

    The reaponses by trump arre in the language tin pot can understand, but those responses are more directed at xhina.

  67. Tina says:

    Constituional liberals, turley, says manafort raid was overdone,
    Glad that mueller is being called before congress.

  68. Tina says:

    Manchin to be sec of energy?

    Perry to dhs?

    Wow

  69. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    59. “they really cannot easily go to war with us
    china: we declare war usa: great … that trillion in usa treasuries you own? cancelled …

    Imagine what is happening behind the scenes is a lot more interesting than what is public.

  70. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Manchin would be a good Secretary of Energy; likewise Senator Heitkamp is very qualified with her background in the energy and other areas to fill a cabinet post.

  71. lisab says:

    Mitch McConnell-backed group ‘very interested’ in Kid Rock for Senate

  72. Robbie says:

    If you had “Trump threatens Venezuela with military action” in the pool, congratulations.

  73. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitzen says:
    August 11, 2017 at 7:45 pm
    Manchin would be a good Secretary of Energy; likewise Senator Heitkamp is very qualified with her background in the energy and other areas to fill a cabinet post.

    – As delicious as this sounds, I just can’t see Manchin giving up his Senate seat to become Energy Secretary. I’d have to think Schumer will tie him to the chair in his office to prevent it.

  74. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 11, 2017 at 7:25 pm
    Bad week for the jebots. Muh russian gong away, dnc leak internal, and trumps approval rebounding sharply.

    – LOL! I needed a good laugh to end the week. None of this is true, despite what Rush Limbaugh barfed up in the first 15 minutes of his show (I was listening).

  75. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    74. You could be right, but on the other hand can see Manchin wanting to jump from a political party that is becoming increasingly left wing, and irrelevant.

    Interesting that the governor of West Virgina recently switched parties. How would Manchin be replaced?

  76. Tina says:

    It is all true and you are sad.

  77. lisab says:

    If North Korea sent missiles toward Guam or the US, could the US missile defense system shoot them down? Should it?

  78. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitzen says:
    August 11, 2017 at 7:40 pm
    Bannon may be the next one out the door.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/11/breitbart-war-on-mcmaster-bites-bannon-241517

    – I’d love to see Bannon gone, but I don’t see it happening. Bannon has convinced Trump he is the keeper of the flame with the base. And right now, Trump has to make sure he keeps the base, otherwise his polling collapses to 30% or lower.

  79. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 11, 2017 at 7:57 pm
    It is all true and you are sad.

    – No. It’s all crap, but Rush Limbaugh has become indistinguishable from Alex Jones these days.

    Trump is not going up in the polls. Zogby is the very epitome of fake news. If you can show me Trump rising in a poll other than Zogby or Rasmussen, then I’ll listen. Otherwise, live by the Rasmussen daily track and die by it.

    If the Russian investigation is going away, then what’s going on with Manafort? What’s going on with Flynn? Why has the Congress just subpoenaed Trump’s secretary Rhona Graff? Why was Don Jr required to turn over his data on the June 2016 Russian meeting? Why is Robert Mueller hiring more lawyers?

  80. BayernFan says:

    We’re on the brink of war with NK. Riiiiiiight. Some people here watch too much TV.

  81. Redmen4ever says:

    Talking war good for approval rating. Getting into war bad for approval rating. In a funny way, “defending” the country against imagined foreign enemies works both for dictators and democrats. Also for whatever the hell Putin is.

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    I heard some people on the radio discussing whether the US should try to shoot down missiles fired at Guam or let them come down at sea.

    Ummmmm. Shooting down missiles aimed at US territorywould be seen as provoking North Korea? I say shoot them down. Unless Tina thinks that is too violent.

  83. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie is screwed every day.

    Now he is upset about Venezuela.

    Pathetic loser!

  84. Trump says:

    Imagine the next 7.5 years.

    Glorious

  85. lisab says:

    Chelsea Handler?Verified account @chelseahandler 9h9 hours ago
    More
    To all the generals surrounding our idiot-in-chief…the longer U wait to remove him, the longer UR name will appear negatively in history.

  86. Trump says:

    “Why has the Congress just subpoenaed Trump’s secretary…?”

    Link please, liar Robbie.

  87. Trump says:

    So, you are down to outright lying, cretin Robbie?

    As usual.

    Produce any link to congressional subpoena to Trump ‘s secretary.

  88. Trump says:

    Aaap, the golden silence from the cretin Robbie.

  89. lisab says:

    abc said that actually

    that congress wants to subpoena her

  90. JC says:

    “Bannon may be the next one out the door.”
    —————

    According to the media, Bannon has been ‘heading for the exits’ everyday for the past six months.

    Whatever.

  91. Trump says:

    You really have the brains of a cretin pond scum, Robbie.

    Is there a link to the congressional subpoena to Trump’s secretary?

    Or did you just dream it up, like your lunacies of brokered convention and Hillary 374 EVs?

  92. Trump says:

    Not even that, abc news said congress may want to talk with her.

    But this cretin said congress has subpoenaed her.

    As I said, this is a cretin pond scum level of comprehension.

  93. Trump says:

    As we all know, Robbie is nothing but a low-intelligence pond scum.

    And a liar too.

  94. Tina says:

    For a drat, you are i to rush, alex whatever, and pizza port.

  95. Trump says:

    Congress is so interested in talking with Manafort and Jared that they decided to postpone hearings.

  96. Tina says:

    It is dying and he knows it.

    Flynn is turkey, manafort is russia, trump is not under investigation,

    All old news and nobody cars, but the basement dweller.

  97. Tina says:

    Jared did testify before congress and there is nothing. Schiff for brains or senate drat will leak..

  98. Trump says:

    So cretin Robbie, where is the congress subpoena to Rhonda Graffiti?

    You posted congress had.

    Where is the link, liar?

  99. Trump says:

    I’d use a term stronger than cretin for a low intelligence scum like Robbie, but Jonesy tied my tongue.

    Man, it is so hard to be as considerate as me.

  100. Trump says:

    Jared did testify, and made them look like fools.

    He had more testimony such edibles.

    But congress said, mercy.

  101. Trump says:

    Scheduled

  102. Trump says:

    Jared for president 2024.

  103. Tina says:

    Big presser set for monday.

  104. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    Chimpanzees learn rock-paper-scissors…

  105. Jonesy says:

    101. You did the right thing my man on the R word. Your points still come across fine

  106. lisab says:

    Sh*t Peace Corps Volunteers Say — Peace Corps Ghana

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toz4_vPmmIA

  107. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie, your slinking away when caught yet again in another blatant lie speakers volumes.

  108. Trump says:

    Give up, cretin. You won’t find a link to congressional subpoena of trump’s secretary.

    It was, as usual, another of your bile and hare filled lunacy.

  109. Paul says:

    The diplomats being removed from Russia still get paid, they just won’t be located in Russia. Does Trump not know this?

  110. Trump says:

    Rent in Moscow is sky high.

    Do you not know this?

  111. BayernFan says:

    how did the chimps know which one beats what?

  112. Tina says:

    Rottie is probably passed out. Bad we,ek for his ilk.

  113. lisab says:

    The diplomats being removed from Russia still get paid, they just won’t be located in Russia.
    —————————-

    the get paid A LOT more in moscow, or any country for that matter. foreign service officers make a fortune out of the country.

    they even get to ship a personal car to their post for free

  114. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie is not passed out.

    He is doing what he always does.

    When exposed as a lying piece of cra&, he hides out till he thinks folks will forget.

  115. lisab says:

    i would not be surprised if the diplomats get extra pay becuase moscow is so cold too. i forget what they call it. not “hazard pay” but extra pay for rough living conditions, although moscow is hardly a rough assignment.

  116. lisab says:

    a foreign service officer can easily retire a millionaire

  117. Trump says:

    Paul is a stupid dem. Don’t confuse him with facts, it hurts his mind.

  118. Trump says:

    For a contingent of 755 that Russia kicked out, the us govt easily would be spending $100m per year plus in extra pay and perks for overseas assignment.

  119. Paul says:

    Sounds like we need to work to get kicked out of more places. Go USA.

  120. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    David Brooks is usually somewhat non-assertive, so a bit of a surprise to see him calling on the Google CEO to resign.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/sundar-pichai-google-memo-diversity.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

    Meanwhile, the idiot Google CEO cancelled a meeting with his employees, because many of his employees did not feel free or safe to air their views. He seemed puzzled by this. Was this man born clueless, or does he practice every day.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/08/11/heh-google-cancels-company-town-hall-meeting-as-employees-fear-theyll-be-punished-for-wrong-thinking-n2367435?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad=

  121. wvally says:

    Cretin? Low-intelligence pond scum?

    YOU are the one stinking up these threads with your barrage of juvenile, annoying, repetitive screeds. You insult ALL of us with your non-stop spew.

    Grow the f*ck up.

  122. Trump says:

    Go away, moron.

    Nobody asks you to read.

    Idiot.

  123. Trump says:

    Do you own the place, stupid?

  124. Trump says:

    The Internet is a big place. Go someplace that cares, idiot.

  125. wvally says:

    Oh you didn’t know? We’re all friends. And you’re the tool who no one can stand.

  126. Trump says:

    And I care why?

  127. Trump says:

    I am not an insecure idiot like you, who needs acclamation all the time.

    Go f u c k yourself, idiot.

  128. Trump says:

    I would be broken up if I was looking for friends.

    Where do they find people like you?

  129. NYCmike says:

    “Trump”, is it that much to ask for posters to write comments as if they were speaking face to face? I am sure there would be some confrontation here and there, but it would not be a constant barrage.

  130. Bitterlaw says:

    Grow the f*ck up.

    Trump got bitch slapped by an A-hole chick. Sweet.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn. Even NYC told Trump to chill.

  132. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy Maxwell Day!

  133. Tina says:

    No need to attack wvally. Wvally posts are too few it seems.

  134. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – All Trump does is attack.

  135. Bitterlaw says:

    Preparing for Maxwell Day, I went to the Archives. Here is the thread for Maxwell Eve and the beginning of Maxwell Day 2016. Warning – lots of bad predictions and analysis.

    http://davidwissing.com/?p=24231#comments

  136. Trump says:

    Constant barrage is the only way.

    Not sure why it is so hard for you morons to understand that you are free to ignore what you want to ignore.

  137. Bitterlaw says:

    We started off the celebration early this morning with a salute from the USS New Jersey.

    http://www.bb62museum.org/images/8406362.jpg

    Unfortunately, they used live ammunition and fired into Camden instead of down the Delaware River. The city was levelled and property damage is estimated in the thousands of dollars.

  138. Bitterlaw says:

    Constant barrage is the only way to pretend that you are making a point.

    I fixed it for you.

  139. Trump says:

    And, just a reminder, liar Robbie has still not shown any evidence that congress has subpoenaed Trump’s secretary.

  140. Trump says:

    Do you have a point, moron?

  141. Bitterlaw says:

    The Flying Maxwells are BACK!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnaR3SIJQAI

  142. Trump says:

    Ever.

    What is the point of your obsession with maxwell?

    Is it similar to the civil war?

  143. Bitterlaw says:

    Gary Maxwell used to speak about how proud he was to be a Texan. Of course, he was from Michigan but that was a small detail. Here is every Texan’s favorite marching band.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ5aZJVsLgI

  144. Trump says:

    And the point of your obsession being what?

  145. Trump says:

    Is it another of your “substantive” discussions?

  146. Trump says:

    Anyway, enjoy the day. Seriously.

    Will be back later, need to take kid to baseball practice. And then to buy school uniforms.

    Summer went fast.

  147. Trump says:

    And lastly, watch the world athletics championships if you all get a chance.

    Way better athleticism than football. And US hauling medals, to boot.

  148. wvally says:

    Oh man Bitter that thread had it ALL.

    Corey kicking things off with “Never Trump”
    You kicking off Maxwell Day w fireworks, a marching band and an inspirational “GFY, MD” themed speech (comma noted)
    MD going hard on the “Stepford Wife”
    Janz responding with adjective-laden high mindedness
    Us setting up our lunch in Philly
    MD calling me a a fascist enabler
    Me telling MD to make me a sandwich
    Cash Cow riffing off Kid Rock lyrics about Trump talking “cray cray”
    Robbie being Robbie
    Author earnestly defending his article declaring support for Hillary
    jason providing a comprehensive compendium of declared Never Trumpers
    MD castigating Bitter for caring about “the judges!”
    Frank methodically averaging every poll to the nearest ten-hundredth and declaring a 3.84% tightening
    Scooter and Phil in the mix

    That was a thread worthy of Maxwell Day. Don’t know if we have it in us this year.

  149. wvally says:

    I’ve now been declared stupid by both MD and Trump.

    I win all the points.

  150. Tina says:

    I need the full thread of that day, wvally.

    Plus i would like to see the debate threads, etc. i just do not like digging back.

  151. wvally says:

    Bitter linked it above, Tina! It’ll have you rolling!

  152. Waingro says:

    I’m hoping Brooks can somehow pass Strange to get in the runoff. I think he then beats Moore.

  153. wvally says:

    I’m no good at digging either, but Bitter knows how to work the search. We should name him official HHR historian.

    Bitter, if you accept the role, please continue to provide us w links to entertaining threads from time to time.

  154. Bitterlaw says:

    Good morning and welcome to Maxwell Day 2017. Today is a special day because it is the 5th Anniversary of Gary Maxwell’s exit from The Hedgehog Report. (cheers). On August 12th, 2012, he did not just leave a blog. On that day, he created an unbreakable bond when he declared me and MD to be “Philly A-holes.” (“A-holes! A-holes! A-holes!”)

    Since that day, the A-holes have expanded to take in jason, Mr. Vito, GF, RB and Wvally. (“BASTARD!”). Oh. And Scooterboy. We continue to dedicate ourselves to public service and helping the community. This past year, we donated more than 500 aluminum bats to inner city baseball teams. (Cheers) The surge in blunt force trauma admissions to inner city hospitals is a coincidence.

    While today is a day to celebrate, it is also a day to remember. This past year was the most difficult time at The Hedgehog Report that I can remember. We lost solid posters like Corey (“Cutler sucks! Cutler sucks!”) and traitors like Author. “”Booooo! Traitor! His short stories sucked!”). Personally, the greatest loss for me was MD. I reached out this morning to wish him a happy Maxwell Day. I also need the password to the A-hole computer in the Club House because I can’t retrieve Maxwell’s Exit Rant. His response was that he has “moved on.” GFY, MD. You will always be an A-hole even if you are now an a-hole.

    I close today (cheers. “STFU, Bitter!”) by reading MD’s last post:

    “Mea culpa

    I was completely wrong. I have to own that.
    It has been great to interact with friends and enemies. I wish everyone all the best and I mean that. No pro wrestling aspect to that.
    I no longer identify with the GOP’s values and principles. I also do not align with the Democrats. Essentially I have no party.
    So, again I was wrong. No way around that. Since I have no allegiance to the GOP, I will be ending my 12 year run at HHR. It has been fun. All the best”

    Excuse me. I have something in my eye. As we go forward, I ask that we take this day, if only for this day, as a chance to post with charity towards others and malice towards none. Except for Trump. GFY, Trump. (Trump sucks! Trump sucks!). Thank you.

  155. Trump says:

    Exposing you for the stupid moron you are.

    Thank you.

  156. Bitterlaw says:

    WV – Rereading the threads is hilarious and painful. For a group of intelligent people who follow politics, we blew it. Oh well.

  157. Bitterlaw says:

    What a thrill it must be for Trump’s son to have him as a dad.

  158. Trump says:

    Nobody is thrilled to have you as anything, that’s for sure.

    No wonder you are bitter.

  159. Trump says:

    That’s why you come to an obscure blog to get some love.

  160. wvally says:

    Well B it turned out the Simpson’s was a better prognosticator than every pollster and pundit in existence.

    We’re in the brave new world.

  161. Waingro says:

    #137, thanks for the link to that thread, Bitter. Enjoyable read. That was during a time when I went on hiatus from following the election after Trump secured the nomination. So it is was fun to go back and see what some posters were saying at the time. The panic (and hyperbole) over Trump was definitely palpable!

    Sadly, it looks like many HHR regulars who I have enjoyed reading on here have never come back. Trump really took a toll on this site.

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    Wain – It was a difficult time. I am glad you stayed.

  163. Tina says:

    Ok wvallly, i saw the link from last year from bl. I was on IR and,not even reading this blog at the time.

  164. Jonesy says:

    Thanks Bitter, for MD’s Nixon speech

  165. Cash Cow TM says:

    There sure was a different tone back then in 2016 on the HHR thread Bitter posted.

    THANKS FOR RESURRECTING IT, BITTER! 🙂

    I had completely forgotten the Kid Rock/Cheryl Crow parody words to the song I had done.
    ##################################################
    When I kick the bucket, I hope this song is sung at my funeral by all who attend.

  166. janz says:

    Reading the archive posting in #137 was a memory lane event. Seeing the interaction of so many long term members of this blog was a treat!

    However, confrontational rancor can only go so far, before it turns from compelling to toxic. Unfortunately, lines were crossed and the latter diminished the membership contributing to the lively crosstalk that was a specialty of this blog.

  167. janz says:

    It’s also interesting to note that Kid Rock is being considered for a Senate run, and he and Cheryl Crow are ex’s. Times can really change…..Fast!

  168. Jonesy says:

    I like Kid Rock, but more concerned about the Senate Situation in Arizona

  169. Tina says:

    Have tou noticed how much the keaks have dropped due to the wh staffing changes?

    Sure mueller leaks.

  170. Tina says:

    Flakes drat challenger is solid. We can kose this seat, if flake is the incumbent. Approval at 18.

  171. Jonesy says:

    Dean Heller

    “I am glad Obamacare Repeal Failed” on Friday.

    Why does he and Flake even speak. Two Republican Mormons who seem to want to lose.

  172. Robbie says:

    It would be extremely smart for Trump to issue a statement denouncing the alt-right and white nationalist protests that are taking place in Charlottesville, Virginia. It would provide Trump a chance to make clear he wants not part of the alt-right movement.

    Allowing Richard Spencer to become associated with conservatism is a massive mistake.

  173. Trump says:

    Trump doesn’t need to prove anything, you dumbas$.

    You and the other nevertrumpers idiots are triggered, and that is a good thing.

    Did you find the link to the congressional subpoena to trump’s secretary, btw, cretin.

  174. lisab says:

    imagine if hillary had won …

    today the economy would be down, taxes would be up, illegal aliens would be legal and the borders would be open, syria would be raging and nk would be pointing missiles at us and hillary would be giving them icbms to appease them 🙂

    good times

  175. wvally says:

    Robbie he finally listened to you!

    Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
    8/12/17, 1:19 PM
    We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!

  176. DW says:

    DNC ELLISON SHOCK: Kim Jong-un ‘Acting More Responsible’ Than Trump…

    …oh that’s right! I forgot about the time Trump got mad at his uncle and threw him alive into a cage with starved dogs.

  177. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – Do you have your scholarly tome on the Maxwell Rant?

  178. janz says:

    “It would be extremely smart for Trump to issue a statement denouncing the alt-right and white nationalist protests that are taking place in Charlottesville, Virginia.”

    I actually agree with Robbie on this one.

  179. janz says:

    I don’t understand how Keith Ellison survives his loony, out of far left field statements.

  180. janz says:

    Interesting article from The Nation (no less) —> A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack.

  181. Robbie says:

    Early reports suggest someone has died as a result of a white nationalist driving a car into a crowd of onlookers today.

    The alt-right, Richard Spencer, and all of the rest must be purged from anything to do with the Republican Party and the conservative movement.

  182. Robbie says:

    Just remember what this jerk said today after a white nationalist plowed a car into a crowd of onlookers and killed at least one the next time a regular here posts his comments.

    John Cardillo?
    @johncardillo
    59m59 minutes ago

    Or did ANTIFA and leftist radicals smash the car into their own to stage the attack?

  183. Robbie says:

    Rather than call out the white nationalists and KKK members who protested and killed one in Charlottesville today, he said blame belongs on both sides.

    Terrible.

  184. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    White Nationalists are pond scum, but the First Amendment exists to protect hateful speech.

    Also, we know you are in a panic because here is the fourth poll which shows The Donald’s approval in the mid-40’s.

    http://orlando-politics.com/2017/08/11/new-poll-donald-trump-twice-as-popular-as-mitch-mcconnell/

  185. DW says:

    179:

    I cannot seem to find it…may have to grab it from last year.

  186. Robbie says:

    The Virginian-Pilot?
    @virginianpilot
    4m4 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Hospital official says 1 dead, 19 injured after car plows into a group of protesters in downtown Charlottesville, via @AP

  187. Waingro says:

    Pathetic speech by Trump. Good Lord.

  188. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 12, 2017 at 3:53 pm
    Robbie
    White Nationalists are pond scum, but the First Amendment exists to protect hateful speech.

    Also, we know you are in a panic because here is the fourth poll which shows The Donald’s approval in the mid-40’s.

    http://orlando-politics.com/2017/08/11/new-poll-donald-trump-twice-as-popular-as-mitch-mcconnell/

    – LOL!

    The First Amendment also allows for Trump to condemn white nationalism and the KKK. He didn’t because, just as was the case in the election, Trump plays footsie with the alt-right and white nationalist.

    Trump’s comments about “both sides” being guilty are a disgrace. There’s no both sides to an issue where the alt-right, Richard Spencer, and David Duke are protesting and rioting.

    But by all means, soothe yourself with a Gravis poll from a week ago.

  189. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    August 12, 2017 at 4:00 pm
    Pathetic speech by Trump. Good Lord.

    – How in the world did Foxconn works its way into Trump’s speech? Just terrible. He would have been better to say nothing.

  190. Robbie says:

    Even Governor Corncob was able to name the problem.

    Gov. Mike Huckabee?
    @GovMikeHuckabee

    “White supremacy” crap is worst kind of racism-it’s EVIL and perversion of God’s truth to ever think our Creator values some above others.

  191. Trump says:

    Fu ck off, cretin Robbie.

    This is how you get more trump, as$hile

    Btw, where is the congress subpoena of Trump’s secretary, moron?

  192. Trump says:

    Can’t find the subpoena, can you, cretin liar?

  193. Robbie says:

    Soccer idiot’s gonna soccer idiot.

  194. Trump says:

    Liar cretin tobbie, what happened to the subpoena?

  195. Robbie says:

    David French?
    @DavidAFrench
    9m9 minutes ago

    Trump is very, very specific when he wants to condemn someone – ask the Khans, Judge Curiel, Comey, his AG – his vagueness has a purpose.

  196. Trump says:

    As$hole, that is not a subpoena,

    Really, do you understand English at all, sub cretin scum?

  197. Trump says:

    David French?

    All the stupid nevertrumpers triggered?

    What’s new?

  198. Trump says:

    Liar Robbie, do you know what a subpoena is?

  199. Jonesy says:

    That is why Robbie has no credibility here.

    David French who wanted to run 3rd party against Trump, a blubbering NRO Fool.

    That who you retweet?

  200. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie is still awaiting Maggie Haberman’s Charlottesville tweet.

  201. Trump says:

    Robbie the lying scum is a lapdog of the MSM. Always has been.

  202. Robbie says:

    This is why Jonesy has no credibility here. He springs to action whenever his alt-right buddies are called out.

  203. Trump says:

    Lying scum Robbie has a new meme.

    All his d ones keep fizzling.

  204. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 12, 2017 at 4:18 pm
    Robbie is still awaiting Maggie Haberman’s Charlottesville tweet.

    – My guess is Trump’s considering whether to give her another interview. She is his favorite so maybe you should take the lead of your orange hero and pay attention to what she says.

  205. Jonesy says:

    Robbie do you tend to forget you live in Kentucky?

    Calling everyone a Racist and Hillbilly? You live in the middle of it

  206. Trump says:

    So, where is the congress subpoena, scum bag? When was it issued, and by whom?

  207. Jonesy says:

    Sheeple is right. Robbie bummed that Trump’s approvals rising

  208. Robbie says:

    Who are the “many sides” Trump mentioned? The white supremacists and the people they ran over?

  209. Trump says:

    Trump triggered the lying douchebag again today.

    Awesome.

  210. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    August 12, 2017 at 4:21 pm
    Sheeple is right. Robbie bummed that Trump’s approvals rising

    – All the way up 38.1% in RCP!

  211. Trump says:

    Trump was referring to you, cretin

  212. Trump says:

    If you hear dog whistle, cretin, you are the dog.

  213. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    August 12, 2017 at 4:20 pm
    Robbie do you tend to forget you live in Kentucky?

    Calling everyone a Racist and Hillbilly? You live in the middle of it

    – I tend to forget you’re a Trump minion who will defend him no matter how awful he acts.

  214. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #212
    Robbie
    Does the word/group AntiFa ring a bell?

  215. Trump says:

    And you will lie every time you post, scum bag Robbie.

    Subpoena?

  216. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 12, 2017 at 4:24 pm
    #212
    Robbie
    Does the word/group AntiFa ring a bell?

    – Glad to know you, Richard Spencer, and Mike Cernovich are all using the same alt-right talking points. I’ve seen their tweets today and they all used “antifa”.

  217. Jonesy says:

    Robbie what have you done to stop racism in Kentucky?

  218. Jonesy says:

    Cernovich and Jack P are Jewish, Rodham

    So is Kushner and Ivanka. How can they be White Nationalists?

    You need help Robbie

  219. Trump says:

    The cretin Robbie seems to have lots of time for random tweets.

    This is what happens to deranged lunatics.

  220. Jonesy says:

    RCP had Hillary winning the electoral college, and include oversampled Dem MSM, College polls.

    Were your parents Cousins, Robbie?

  221. Trump says:

    More specifically, trump hating tweets.

    No wonder his brain is fried.

  222. Jonesy says:

    It all makes sense now. Robbie is Anti-Semetic

  223. biomom says:

    184

    Daily mail says the car swerved when a rock was thrown at it. Story linked at Drudge

  224. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    That’s cheap, Robbie. I am not with it politically like you. I had never heard those two names before today.Who is John Cadillo?
    Curious if you have ever posted a condemnation of Black Lives Matter or the AntiFa or does violence only exist on the right?

  225. Trump says:

    Anti Semitic msm lapdog

  226. Trump says:

    I think we are ripe for a civil war.

  227. Trump says:

    Hopefully, calexit will trigger that.

  228. Robbie says:

    If Trump wanted to condemn white nationalism, all he had to do was say he was condemning white nationalism. He didn’t do so after spending the last year and half of attacking Obama for not being willing to say “radical Islamic terrorism”.

  229. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 12, 2017 at 4:31 pm
    That’s cheap, Robbie. I am not with it politically like you. I had never heard those two names before today.Who is John Cadillo?
    Curious if you have ever posted a condemnation of Black Lives Matter or the AntiFa or does violence only exist on the right?

    – You whine about cheap shots after you compared me Michael Moore?

    What I know is white nationalists protested, rioted, and then one used a car to run over bystanders killing one. And despite that, Trump blamed “many sides” rather than identifying the white nationalists as the problem.

  230. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #232
    Did Obama ever condemn Black Lives Matter or the AntiFa? In fact,after he departed the White House,he encouraged those groups to continue their protests.

  231. Trump Davis says:

    We must reclaim our country. Under the Great President Donald Trump, we will reclaim our country from sea to shining sea God Willing!

  232. Jonesy says:

    235. Stop it Bitter

  233. Trump Davis says:

    love love that the white nationalists are there to finally stand up for our heritage and white people. so sick of George Soros’s groups like blm the most racists scum on earth. they are the violent problem. white nationalists are peaceful and should stand their ground

  234. Jonesy says:

    My God you are unhinged. He called everyone there at fault, and you are melting down?

    Fox just showed Communist, BLM, Che, and Mao flags and signs everywhere in Va, and you only point out one side slobbie?

  235. Trump Charles says:

    These is “no place” for hate and non-peaceful conflict in America. No reason for violence against any opinion. Right or wrong opinion by your opinion is no reason for violence. It’s called Free Speech. It is protected by the Constitution regardless of how grotesque you think their opinion is!

  236. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #233
    I’ve been told that you and Michael Moore are similar in weight and you both wear silly baseball caps to sleep. True?
    Did the White Nationalists have a permit to protest? It appears that the counter protesters were rioting and threatening.
    I have no clue about the driver’s motive, but I believe that the “accident” is still in the “Fog of War” stage and every perp is innocent until convicted or he/she confesses.

  237. JulStol says:

    Posobiec is not Jewish. I’m pretty sure Cernovich is Catholic.

  238. Trump Davis says:

    You cannot make America ‘Great Again’ by systematically removing symbols of American history that made it Great. No matter what anyone wants to believe, the Civil War wasn’t all about slavery. It was about equality on many levels.

    I stand with President Donald J. Trump!

  239. Jonesy says:

    People who already hate Trump, are the only ones concerned.

    He called all at Fault. He was right.

    Now go back to your Kentucky Still Robbie

  240. Trump John says:

    White people have just as much right as anyone else to speak up, to protest etc. I think what we are seeing is white people tired of being demonized. You can’t ask white people to tell their children to hate themselves because of the color of their skin and not expect a back lash. Telling white people they have no voice is like telling any other race they have no voice, it is wrong and creates hate and mistrust for gov and other races too. All must have a voice in our country. No room for hate, but there is room to listen to all. All lives matter and voices matter including white people.

  241. Jonesy says:

    Cernovich Jewish on mothers side. Jack P is Jewish

  242. JulStol says:

    Jonesy,
    I know Jack very well. For the better part of 15 years. He’s not Jewish.

  243. Jonesy says:

    Taylor Lorenz Twitter:

    Charlottesville Cops do not think driver was malicious. Car hit by rock and scared him to swerve.

    You are a fool Robbie

  244. Bitterlaw says:

    235 and the other Trump’s are not mine.

  245. Jonesy says:

    Only never Trumpers are upset by Trump speech.

    He called on all to unite, all sides to blame. Why the Firestorm?

  246. Jonesy says:

    Sorry Bitter. Were you upset by Trump’s speech

  247. Trump Davis says:

    This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back. We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump because he said he’s going to take our country back. And that’s what we gotta do.

  248. Bitterlaw says:

    Perhaps whites who are tired of being demonized should not put on hoods and burn crosses. It makes demonized go them pretty easy.

    As for “white pride,” zzzzzzzzz. Just remember, for every great white person like Ben Franklin, we get crappy ones like Hillary Clinton.

  249. Trump John says:

    White Nationalists are not White Supremists. This rally was to protect a statue of the Grate Robert E. Lee. It was a peaceful rally until the group who holds the most violent protests got mad at someone other than themselves holding a rally and they are the ones who started throwing bottles, and started the fighting. I gurantee that now everytime there is an antifa or BLM rally, white nationalist will be there to protest them!!

  250. Bitterlaw says:

    I support the right of scum like the KKK or any group to protest. If they turn violent, crush them until the violence stops.

  251. lisab says:

    just to put things in perspective

    robbie was completely focused on the mueller investigation on the day the the republican congressmen were attacked. he barely mentioned it … and really only to excuse kaine
    ——————————

    Robbie says:
    June 15, 2017 at 3:47 pm
    Wes says:
    June 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm
    Kaine said members of “the Resistance” must take to the streets to fight Trump. He was part of the rhetoric that led Hodgkinson to attack, Robbie.
    That’s a rather clear opening.

    – I’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. In 2009 and 2010, more than a few Republicans made impertinent comments that sounded similar to what Kaine said. Most won. Given the image Kaine has cultivated, I think it will be a big hill to climb for people to conclude he was inciting actual violence.

  252. lisab says:

    he certainly did not go off on a twenty post rant againsr “the resistance” or antifa

  253. Bitterlaw says:

    White Nationalists are not White Supremists.

    Zzzzzzzzz. Pure BS.

  254. Trump Davis says:

    Alt Right is no different than BLM except the BLM protests are allowed and the Alt Right protests aren’t allowed. That’s not a good look for a country that touts free speech. Not to mention, by all accounts it seems the left wing extremists were the aggressors, and yet, it was the Alt Right protest that suffered at the hands of the police. I’m now supportive of the Alt Right’s cause in terms of at least allowing them to speak. We can’t pick and choose who gets to speak. That’s not what this country is about, even if we don’t like the message. It’s intellectual cowardice to silence the Alt Right. What it says to me is, “we don’t think our country is strong enough to have intense discourse about race and we’d rather hide from it and let it persist.”

  255. Bitterlaw says:

    This is how you deal with the KKK.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1JX07MCCL4

  256. Trump SUCKS says:

    Stop calling them Alt-Right. They’re Nazis and Klansmen.

  257. Bitterlaw says:

    the Alt Right protests aren’t allowed.

    Pretty stupid comment since they were allowed to protest.

  258. Trump Davis says:

    No it’s not a stupid comment. We are being censored while BLM can do whatever they want. Finally, we have a President that will fight for US. God Bless President Donald J. Trumnp

  259. lisab says:

    the driver is in custody

  260. Trump Davis says:

    When a mob is about to kill you, you have the right to defend yourself. The driver is innocent until proven guilty. Let’s not forget that

  261. Tina says:

    White nationalism.

    Troll unhinged.

  262. lisab says:

    the driver might be really screwed up

    best to wait before ranting

  263. lisab says:

    When a mob is about to kill you, you have the right to defend yourself. The driver is innocent until proven guilty. Let’s not forget that
    ———-

    i encourage you to remember that

  264. Trump SUCKS says:

    If it was a black driver, he’d already be lynched.

    It’s a white driver, so now we must be careful and he’s innocent until proven guilty yada yada yada yada

  265. Tina says:

    Who is david french?

  266. Tina says:

    Is the driver a leftist or alt right? Looks like he is a leftist.

  267. Tina says:

    I always say, wait to comment until you have thenfacts. The information suggests that the driver is a leftist. Initial reports suggested a white nationalist. The initial reports are usually wrong.

  268. Trump SUCKS says:

    “Looks like he is a leftist.”

    Looks like? Describe his looks

  269. lisab says:

    picture has not been released

    but you should trust tina and me

    things could get very bad

  270. Tina says:

    I see a possible Aa

    With phuq trump, phug borders, no illegals.

    Could be the rottie manifesto.

  271. Trump Davis says:

    It was a black guy who was driving the car. He killed one patriot.

  272. Trump John says:

    Yes, driver definitely an African american nut screaming about BLM. Don’t expect the Fake News media to report this!

  273. lisab says:

    it would be good if the police released an official name

    or at least a denial of a name

  274. Tina says:

    Looks like rottie jumped the shark on this one. Please do not politicize these police matters.

  275. Tina says:

    Let the facts come out, stuff is typically not right in the chaos, and see where things go.

  276. Trump John says:

    Conservative Fighter group reporting that driver was BLM member and is black. CNN to report this in 3 . 2. NEVER

  277. lisab says:

    i doubt it was a blm person

    just fyi, there is some confusion on the plates that were on the car

    some innocent kid could get killed over this

    it would be good for the police to release the name

  278. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    1h
    Replying to @JoeNBC
    Lyin Psycho Joe lyin again.

    Plesse stop lyin Psycho Joe. Just go back to your bed with Yoko & sing “give MSNBC a chance”

  279. lisab says:

    if the picture now floating around is accurate

    it appears to be a pudgy white guy

  280. Paul says:

    I am part of the resistance and I’m generally Anti-fascism and anti-racial. It’s called being American.

  281. Paul says:

    Who the hell would believe Conservative Fighter group. Lol.

  282. Trump John says:

    No, its a black guy. Fake News as usual. The driver was black, there is video

  283. Trump Paul says:

    They now say it might have been Obama driving.

  284. Trump SUCKS says:

    Fox News covering healthcare. Obviously not a good day for Fox. Kinda hard to defend today’s events…

  285. lisab says:

    finally msnbc is reporting they caught him

    no name yet though

  286. Trump John says:

    BLM shooting at police. May have shot down a police helicopter. This is insance. President Trump must declair martial law!

  287. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Typically slanted CNN comment about Trump’s statement.

    @CNN “Trump condemns hate “on many sides” without mentioning white nationalists in his remarks about #Charlottesville http://cnn.it/

  288. lisab says:

    uk papers just saying police helocopter stalled and crashed

    not shot at

  289. Tina says:

    Seerinitital reports, helicoper shot down vs mechanical issue.

  290. lisab says:

    tina,

    you have seen reports the helocopter was shot at?

    uk papers are not reporting that

  291. Trump Paul says:

    Obama tweets that we are all to start attacking whitey.

  292. Trump John says:

    The president is a weasel and weasels gonna bite.

  293. Tina says:

    No, somebody else here lisab.

    Point is inittial reports are usually wrong.

  294. Tina says:

    Whitey shot it down.

  295. BayernFan says:

    CCC

  296. Tina says:

    Hi cg.

  297. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    291. “BLM shooting at police. May have shot down a police helicopter. This is insance. President Trump must declair martial law!”

    Its medication time! If don’t have any, see a doctor and get some.

  298. Tina says:

    Hi Tina

  299. Tina says:

    Yeah, they laugh at the hc going down, but do not mention the 2 dead va officers

  300. Tina says:

    Trump disrespects police.

  301. lisab says:

    hope there are no riots tonight

  302. Paul says:

    I am dumb.

  303. Paul2 says:

    I am dumber.

  304. Tina says:

    As long as the alt-right calms the hell down.

  305. Paul3 says:

    No, I am dumbest.

  306. Paul says:

    My space is violated.

  307. Tina says:

    Trump didn’t help.

  308. Ru Paul says:

    I am Ru Paul.

  309. Tina says:

    Paul is a little snowflake.

  310. Paul2 says:

    My space is ciolated too.

  311. Paul3 says:

    My space is violated.

  312. Paul says:

    I will blow my whistle.

  313. Tina says:

    I’ve reported this to Dave.

  314. Paul2 says:

    I will blow a hooker.

  315. Paul3 says:

    Paul2 uses vi@gr@.

  316. JulStol says:

    Whomever the driver is, whatever side he’s on, fry him.

  317. Tina says:

    Hi, jul, yup no matter who he is.

  318. Tina says:

    Surface to air missile found at crash site.

  319. Paul3 says:

    My safe space is violated.

  320. Paul4 says:

    Paul2 can come over here.

  321. Paul says:

    I am a pro life comservative.

  322. Paul3 says:

    Hands up don’t shoot.

  323. JC says:

    Dave really needs to start cleaning up the comment section.

  324. Paul3 says:

    Dave can start by cleaning up Paul’s mess.

  325. Polaris says:

    I hardly recognize this place. What’s up with all the Trumps and Pauls ?

  326. JulStol says:

    The driver is/was military.

  327. Trump says:

    Who is the driver?

  328. JulStol says:

    James Alex Fields Jr. of Maumee, OH.

  329. Paul2 says:

    Paul3 was the driver.

  330. Cash Cow TM says:

    Crap hit the fan in Charlottesville. ..sad

    At Nationals stadium. Delay of game start due to storms in area. Not raining here… sucks.

    Thunderboomer!

  331. Paul3 says:

    Paul shat on on the lawn.

  332. Cash Cow TM says:

    Come on..play rhe damn game.

    Those voys are making enough money to
    put up with a little lightning. ..

  333. Paul says:

    Get off my lawn.

  334. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    This is a serious enough situation I hope the clown comments end.

  335. Trump says:

    White supremacists fighting Antifa-Blm.

    It’s win win.

    W should arm them both.

  336. Trump says:

    Iran Iraq part 2

  337. lisab says:

    police are keeping the id and motivation very quiet

  338. Tina says:

    Maybe they are investigating?

  339. Robbie says:

    The Daily Stormer was very satisfied with Trump’s statement today. Let that sink in for minute.

    Trump’s response was a total flub. He, just like every other elected Republican today, needs to come out and denounce the white supremacists and white nationalists. This shouldn’t be hard.

  340. Trump says:

    Fu ck off, cretin

  341. Trump says:

    Go consort with your Blm buddies.

  342. Trump says:

    Does soros pay you, or do you do this for free?

  343. Trump says:

    And did you find that congressional subpoena, cretin?

    When was it issued, and by who?

  344. Trump says:

    Yesterday, it was congressional subpoena, today it is trump’s masterful statements.

    What will it be tomorrow, cretin sub human?

  345. Trump says:

    when will you stop supporting rioters of Blm-Antifa, cretin Robbie?

  346. Trump says:

    Shouldn’t be that hard, cretin.

  347. Trump says:

    Or are you just a stupid lapdog of the corrupt media, DNC and nevertrumpers

  348. Trump says:

    You have post after post condemning white supremacists.

    Not one mentioning the blm-Antifa rioters.

    Why is that, cretin Robbie?

  349. Phil says:

    I just got home and saw the video of Trump’s statement. Was there something wrong with it? Seemed fine to me.

  350. Trump says:

    It is increasingly clear that you are nothing but a lying scum who supports Blm-Antifa terrorists.

  351. Trump says:

    That was for the cretin.

  352. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Here are Trump’s latest tweets about Charlotteville. Am sure Robbie will find something in them to attack Trump.

    @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    Condolences to the family of the young woman killed today, and best regards to all of those injured, in Charlottesville, Virginia. So sad!

    @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    Deepest condolences to the families & fellow officers of the VA State Police who died today. You’re all among the best this nation produces.

    @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
    We will continue to follow developments in Charlottesville, and will provide whatever assistance is needed. We are ready, willing and able.

    What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives. No citizen should ever fear for their safety and security in our society.

    @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
    We must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are ALL AMERICANS FIRST.

    @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
    What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives. #Charlottesville

  353. Phil says:

    What is Robbie’s beef? Trump condemned those on all sides. What? He’s supposed to just condemn the white nationalists? Video I saw showed some pretty violent protesters. They supposed to get a pass?

    Splain it to me Lucy.

  354. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie supports violent protests. They are against Trump.

    How’s that for the real explanation?

  355. Trump says:

    “Swift restoration of law and order…”

    Well, if the authorities really cared about law and order, and not kowtowed to soros-funded riots organized by Blm and other assorted fascists…

    Need to keep the resistance roiling…

  356. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    361. Agree Phil, violence by all sides needs to be condemned. Trump said the right thing. The same rules should apply to everyone.

  357. Trump says:

    Ferguson, Charlotte, Oakland, Portland…

    You’ll need a scorecard.

  358. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    363. “Trump” you might consider putting a sock in it tonight. Its time for everyone on all sides to calm down.

  359. Trump says:

    No it is not. It is time to expose the ugly truth.

  360. Trump says:

    Something is rotten in Denmark.

    Papering over only encourages the fascists.

  361. Tina says:

    Hate is hate. It all must be condemned.

  362. Tina says:

    And let the murder do time and get the dealth penalty, if allowed in va.

  363. Trump says:

    You are seeing well -organized riots across the country.

    Who is organizing, who is paying?

    If we had a competent attorney general who was interested in law and order…

  364. Trump says:

    Loretta lynch and Eric holder certainly not going to investigate.

    You needed a competent attorney general….

  365. Trump says:

    Not someone who went into hiding when schumer said “boo”.

  366. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Have heard of “alt-right”, is there also an “alt-nut”?

  367. Trump says:

    The Blm-Antifa nexus is prime example of what RICo was meant to investigate….

    But the AG decided to abdicate his job the day he was sworn in, so what can you expect?

  368. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish Trump had said this:

    To be clear, I condemn the violence committed by all sides. I condemn the violence of those who have sworn to oppose and resist me. I condemn the violence of those of those who believe that I stand with them in their racist hatred. I do not. I completely and without reservation condemn those who call themselves white nationalists or white supremacists. Let them whine that I am picking on them. Good. They deserve it.”

  369. Trump says:

    Your stupid note shows why trump is president and you are not.

  370. Tina says:

    Is there a link to the entire statement?

  371. Tina says:

    I am surprised that the city or county even granted the nationalists a permit. Did antifa get a permit too?

  372. Trump says:

    The courts compelled them to provide permits.

    It’s still a free speech and assembly country, not Google.

  373. Tina says:

    Clash between protesters and counter protesters. Police says “We’ll not intervene until given command to do so.” #Charlottesville

    Aclu stand doen order for police.

    Not good.

  374. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump – I feel sorry for you. You are either a pathetic hate-filled loser OR find value in pretending to be a pathetic hate-filled loser. I hope your son does not see see this side of you.

  375. Trump says:

    Let’s not kid ourselves.

    There will be more riots.

    There are incentives, there is money, there is organization that encourages these riots.

  376. Tina says:

    ACLU confirms that police were given stand-down order. This invited the violence the city used to shut down a court-permitted protest. https://twitter.com/ACLUVA/status/896386562484731904

  377. Trump says:

    Bitter, you are just a stupid moron.

    You think your life is pathetic, and you project.

    You are not very smart.

  378. Tina says:

    Not a good idea to have racists, who appear to have been granted a permit, mixed with antifa, who may or may not have had a permit.

    Both sides suck.

    With that said, doj needs to investigate who gaveq the stand order

  379. Tina says:

    Ppolice had the equipment and resources to intervene and should have. They were in positiOn. Who gave the order to stand down and why?

  380. Trump says:

    I was forgetting the Berkeley riots.

  381. Bitterlaw says:

    Considering Trump’s small vocabulary, his assessment of my intelligence is uninteresting. Calling me a stupid moron shows you need two words to convey the same idea.

  382. lisab says:

    And let the murder do time and get the dealth penalty, if allowed in va.
    ———————–

    so far as i have heard, one person has been charged with 2nd degree murder

    of course that could change

    the person julstol mentioned was apparently in the military for 4 months in 2015

    how do you be in the military for 4 months?

  383. Tina says:

    Sounds like he may have had issues being in the military.

  384. Tina says:

    Notma good career,fit,for him

  385. Trump says:

    Okay, I’ll call you stupid stupid.

    Moron.

  386. Bitterlaw says:

    My pity for Trump’s son grows.

  387. lisab says:

    Notma good career,fit,for him
    —————————-

    wouldn’t that mean a medical discharge, at least that is all i can think it could be

    once you get through basic i don’t think they let you out because “you don’t like it”

    it seems like there is something there

  388. Trump says:

    As I said, prime cut stupid.

    Why don’t you go fumble with md’s zipper, that’s all you are good at.

  389. Tina says:

    MARK SIMONE ? @MarkSimoneNY
    First Russia, now the media will try to create some sort of fake relationship between Trump and the White Supremacists.
    1:15 PM – Aug 12, 2017

    Seriously, this shoukd be bipartisan

  390. Trump says:

    Not surprising, you have already seen the cretin Robbie’s posts.

  391. Bitterlaw says:

    Calling people stupid of gay is the extent of Trump Guru’s posts.

    CD

  392. Trump says:

    It is curious as to the lack of information about who these “counter protestors” are.

    Could these be my accountant and Doctor neighbors?

  393. Trump says:

    Only you and a few other special ones, moron.

  394. Paul says:

    There will be more violence unless Trump condemns his racist posts.

  395. Trump says:

    I am the biggest racist moron

  396. Trump says:

    More violence.

    Mmmmmm

  397. Trump says:

    More violence. Tasty.

  398. lisab says:

    i hop the antifa don’t copy cat

    the last thing we need is a bunch of priuses mowing people down

  399. Paul says:

    Antifa members are dressed like ISIS.

  400. Lisab says:

    Snowflakes getflattened under the tires.

  401. Robbie says:

    The mother of the dirtball who drove over people today told the Toledo newspaper her son told her last week he was going to attend an alt-right rally in Virginia.

    So I guess those claiming this was something else were just pushing fake news.

  402. Trump says:

    He was from Ohio. So he knew how to drive in the snow.

  403. Robbie says:

    SDC

    Trump spent two years calling out Obama and Clinton for not having the courage to say the words “radical Islamic terrorism”.

    Today, Trump, in his tweets and public comments, was unwilling to specifically condemn the white supremacists, neo-Nazi’s, or the KKK who provoked these riots and then ran over a group of people killing at least one.

    So you bet I have a problem with Trump’s worthless tweets. Attaching “Sad!” to the end of a tweet doesn’t do anything other than make Trump look like a clueless idiot who’s completely out of touch with what’s happening.

  404. Paul2 says:

    Paul is a snowflake.

  405. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 12, 2017 at 9:15 pm
    I just got home and saw the video of Trump’s statement. Was there something wrong with it? Seemed fine to me.

    – Who are the “many sides”? All I saw were white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and KKK members rioting and running over 19 people and killing at least one. Five are apparently in critical condition right now.

    Why is it suddenly so difficult for “Mr. Tell It Like It Is” to call out the white supremacists that every other Republican was able to do today? Let’s not forget, Trump was unwilling to denounce David Duke in February 2016.

    Look at the comments from Rubio and Cory Gardner. Ted Cruz, your Senator, called for the DOJ to open an investigation. Even Orin Hatch called out these vile scum.

  406. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 12, 2017 at 9:28 pm
    What is Robbie’s beef? Trump condemned those on all sides. What? He’s supposed to just condemn the white nationalists? Video I saw showed some pretty violent protesters. They supposed to get a pass?
    Splain it to me Lucy.

    – Whataboutism

  407. dcphil014 says:

    Boom!

    Richmond fbi investigating.

  408. dcphil014 says:

    If somebody can post trumps speech, please do so. Thanks.

  409. Paul4 says:

    – Whataboutism

    Get off my lawn.

  410. Phil says:

    I thought condemning all sides would include the White supremacists?

    No?

    And the rioting I saw on video today they would be a side as well. Correct or I’ll ask again. They get a pass in your world?

  411. Paul says:

    Helicopter crash is sad. But it’s clearly an accident unrelated to racists,BLM or Trump.

  412. Paul says:

    Only the racists right wingers were violent. The peaceful protesters are not.

  413. Paul says:

    You need to call it what it is and Trump was unwilling to do that.

  414. Paul3 says:

    Do not sh@t on my lawn

  415. Phil says:

    The peaceful protestors were not.

    How about the non peaceful protestors?

    Do they count?

  416. Paul says:

    President Trump stated that the violent displays by white nationalists in Charlottesville, VA make him “very, very sad.”

    “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides,” the president said.

  417. Paul says:

    I made a mistake. President Trump did call out the racista. My mistake.

  418. Cash Cow TM says:

    DAVE THE WIZARD is lolligagging the beach with his family, so he is not here to monitor and manage his HHR baby.

    I am back from being waterlogged at the Washington nationals park. 7 p.b. game start was delayed due to storms in the area. We left about 9. Closed roads due to high water meant we had to do a long detour.

  419. Cash Cow TM says:

    Thoughts on the tragic happenings at Charlottesville…

    JulStol (a proud member of “Crush the Resistance” [i.e. get in the face of the black clad, mask wearing, bust out windows, set cars on fire, block traffic, punch a trump supporter in the face, anti-fa whackadoodles] ) posted on here (or on Facebook, I forget which) saying he was NOT going to attend the event in Charlottesville and he urged others not to go) as he heard it was going to be violent affair.
    *************************************
    For a troubling number of years left wing protesting groups have “protested” this and that and held rallies and marches but they often turned illegal and violent–blocking interstates and bridges, let to riots, assaults on police officers, etc., etc. and they were “allowed” to sorta get away with criminal behavior by the authorities who did not want to be seen as obstructing freedom to demonstrate.
    ##################################################
    Demonstrators SHOULD have the free speech right to hold rallies give speeches at some park etc. but it seems someone forgets to tell them that the second they smash windows, set fires, destroy public or private property or imperil others property or rights they will be dealt with swiftly by law enforcement and held accountable when they interfere with the rights of others to be allowed free flow of transit on streets and sidewalks and when they destroy public or private property.

    There is a startling number of people who call DJT a far right conservative nazi, a fascist, a racist, etc. which belies the fact that nothing in DJT’s past there is little indication he is any of those things. He is certainly not someone with a strong, decades long history of conservatism…

    There is a startling number of people who refuse to accept DJT as president, deny the results of the election and look for Russian boogeymen who somehow rigged the ballot box. (ad you though charges of GWB being an “illegitimate” president due to FLA butterfly ballot, Dibolt machines in Ohio, etc were bad…)

    You have a startling number of people today who get incensed when they are in the minority and do not get their way…

    You have a startling number of people who on social media are unbelievably crude and irresolute in their positions and absolutely vilify anyone who voices an opposing position or view.

    Frustrations everywhere are through the roof…

    Everyone is becoming Westview Baptist Church whackadoodles on steroids–being outrageous and being proponents of violence.
    ***********************************************
    Recipe for disaster…

  420. lisab says:

    cash cow,

    well said

    and

    you are friends with julstol on facebook?

    cows use face book?

    shouldn’t you be on farm book?

  421. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    A cow is smarter than many humans on the board tonight.

  422. lisab says:

    cash cow,

    the same guy who organized this rally is supposedly going to have another one in boston

    that should go well

  423. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    424, 425. President Trump stated that the violent displays by white nationalists in Charlottesville, VA make him “very, very sad.”

    “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides,” the president said.

    Paul says:
    August 12, 2017 at 11:37 pm
    I made a mistake. President Trump did call out the racista. My mistake.”

    Perhaps there are special words that Trump should have said, but there seem to be people want to turn this tragic event into and anti-Trump political attack.

    We should be looking at the deeper issues. Agree with Trump’s statement there was “egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides,” The laws need to be enforced against violence of any kind. The violence has gone both ways, its time to stop the heated and hateful language, including against Trump — and by Trump against others he disagrees with.

  424. Tina says:

    Big moo to,cash cow. Nice post.

    Night gang.

  425. Tina says:

    I have issues with the citys mayor. The ny times and others are porting that the barriers between the 2 sides were put down, when the cops retreated temporarily. The may appears to have issued a stand down order, in violarion of the Punks mcawfuls order to “clear the “streets.”

    People were getting jacked up on both sides.

    The mayah needs to explain why he violated mcawfuls order.

  426. lisab says:

    Democrat Stacey Evans’ speech to a conference of progressive activists descended into chaos on Saturday, as protesters interrupted her repeatedly and she struggled to make herself heard over chants of “support black women.”

    Evans, a Smyrna state legislator who is white, expected a tough audience at the Netroots Nation event, where her rival Stacey Abrams was treated like royalty. But she said she at least expected to be able to make it through her remarks

    That didn’t happen.

    Almost as soon as she took the stage, a ring of demonstrators – some holding stark signs criticizing her – fanned out in front of Evans. The chanting soon followed. Pleading repeatedly for the room to speaks – “let’s talk through it,” she implored – the demonstrators at times drowned her out.

    It underscored the intense vitriol already rocking the race for governor.

    Abrams, seeking to be the nation’s first black female governor, has embraced a staunchly progressive platform and has pledged to mobilize a legion of minority voters who rarely cast ballots. Evans wants to rebuild a tattered coalition of liberals, working-class voters and suburbanites who have steadily spurned the party for the GOP.

  427. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    David Wasserman in a Washington Post article expressed reservations about the Democrats election changes in 2018:

    “David Wasserman of the Cook Political Report noted this past week that the pro-Republican bias of the House and Senate puts Democrats at an obvious disadvantage now and possibly well into the future.

    “Even if Democrats were to win every single 2018 House and Senate race for seats representing places that Hillary Clinton won or that Trump won by less than three percentage points — a pretty good midterm by historical standards — they could still fall short of the House majority and lose five Senate seats,” he wrote.

    He said that, while Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 by 2.1 percentage points, Republicans won the median House seat by 3.4 points and the median Senate seat by 3.6 points, the widest difference for the Senate in history and tied for the widest House difference.

    “That doesn’t mean Democrats can’t win the House and Senate back,” he added. “They won control of both chambers in 2006 despite a Republican bias that year, for example. But they’re starting from a truly historic geographic disadvantage, even with the political wind at their back.”

  428. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    434. The type of divisiveness exhibited in Georgia is going to happen all over the country in 2018, and rip the Democrats into tatters. All the Democrats are united about is their hatred of Trump, otherwise they are a divided mess.

  429. Bitterlaw says:

    430 There are no racists in Boston? The only person I ever heard use the N word openly was from there.

    Don’t worry, lisab. The KKK scum could not afford to stay anywhere near Boston. They would also find the food at Dunkin Donuts overrated.

  430. Bitterlaw says:

    The person who used that word was also a lifelong Democrat.

  431. lisab says:

    There are no racists in Boston?
    ——————————————

    traditionally racism was by neighborhood in boston and actually was based more on ethnicity then race. italians were from the north end, the irish from southie, blacks from rochester, asians from chinatown etc. usually if you minded your own business everything was fine. but if you got out of line and you were a visitor to another neighborhood, you could find yourself in a dumpster. that has pretty much been destroyed by white flight in the 1970’s after the busing crisis.

    now boston is only about 33% white.

  432. lisab says:

    53 not 33%

  433. lisab says:

    however, what i meant was that it will be a real explosive situation, not that it would not be.

    there are about 50 colleges and universities in and around boston including some of the most fun … like hillary’s wellesley and of course harvard … and by fun i mean places where you can get extra credit for going to a dunkin donuts and taking a picture of a man making you coffee, but only if you are a female student

    fortunately traffic is so bad, no cars will be able to run over anyone who can walk, but i predict thrown items.

  434. MichiganGuy says:

    2020 National Democratic Primary:

    Biden 21%
    Cuban 7%
    Harris 6%
    Booker 4%
    Gillibrand 2%
    Cuomo 1%
    Klobuchar 1%
    Undecided 43%

    Gravis Marketing

  435. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    442. Biden? He would be almost 80 when assuming office. Even now he is showing signs of going off topic quite a bit.

  436. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    Compare Trump to the dynamic Obama, when Baltimore had its travails. Obama immediately went into action, and arrived on the scene and took a leadership role in . . ah, never mind.

  437. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    The Russians have struck again, this time in Kenya. “Kenya opposition presidential candidate Raila Odinga has said the electoral commission’s IT system has been hacked to manipulate the election results.”

  438. PresidentPaul! says:

    Man Floyd doesn’t realize what a mistake he’s made fighting Conor.

    I’m leaning Conor right now.

  439. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://mmajunkie.com/2017/08/conor-mcgregor-paulie-malignaggi-raw-video-sparring-footage

    New clips of Conor rocking former world champion Paulie Malignaggi in camp.

  440. Tina says:

    Charlottesville Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy defended the police tactics. “I’m not in the business of throwing our police department under the bus, because they’re doing the best job they can, “ said Bellamy. “I don’t think the police officers were just twiddling their thumbs.”

    The skirmishes culminated in what appears to have been an act of domestic terrorism, with a driver ramming his car into a crowd of anti-racist activists on a busy downtown street, killing one and injuring 19 according to the latest information from city officials. Charlottesville authorities tonight reported that a 20-year-old Ohio man had been arrested and had been charged with murder.

    This from the puffington post. Somebody gave a stand down order. The ny times also confirms this.

    This will be part of the divil rights investigation, the actions or inactions of the mayor.

  441. Tina says:

    Fox News @FoxNews
    ·
    15m
    Moments ago on @ffweekend, @AlvedaCKing defended @POTUS’s response to the violence in #Charlottesville.

  442. lisab says:

    ATLANTA — Senator Elizabeth Warren used a speech to a grass-roots conference Saturday to take direct aim at Democrats’ diminished moderate wing, ridiculing Clinton-era policies and jubilantly proclaiming that liberals had taken control of the party.

    While not invoking former President Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton by name, Ms. Warren sent an unambiguous message that she believes the Clinton effort to push Democrats toward the political center should be relegated to history.

    “The Democratic Party isn’t going back to the days of welfare reform and the crime bill,” she said, highlighting measures Mr. Clinton signed into law as president that are reviled by much of the left. “It is not going to happen.”

    Yet Ms. Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat who is widely thought to be considering running for president in 2020, noted to about 1,000 activists here for the yearly Netroots Nation meeting that they hardly needed to worry about the party shifting to the middle as it did in the 1990s. Liberals, she said, have taken charge.

    “We are not the gate-crashers of today’s Democratic Party,” Ms. Warren said, invoking a term first used to describe the liberal blogosphere that emerged a decade ago. “We are not a wing of today’s Democratic Party. We are the heart and soul of today’s Democratic Party.”

  443. lisab says:

    Muslim woman wins $85,000 lawsuit after police forcibly remove her hijab
    By Paul LeBlanc, CNN
    Updated 12:58 PM ET, Fri August 11, 2017
    (CNN)The city of Long Beach, California, will pay $85,000 to settle a 2016 lawsuit filed by a Muslim woman after an officer forcibly removed her hijab, or headscarf, when she was in police custody.

    The incident started when Kirsty Powell and her husband were pulled over by police for driving a “low rider” car, according to the lawsuit.
    Powell was the passenger, but was arrested after police found a warrant under her name for a shoplifting incident.
    Kirsty Powell
    Kirsty Powell
    Powell’s husband requested a female officer handle the arrest, according to the suit, but the arresting officers denied the request and told Powell she had to remove her hijab.
    Powell spent the night in prison without her headscarf. It was returned when her husband posted her bond.
    The lawsuit states Powell was “forced to appear in a publicly available booking photo without her religious headwear.”

  444. Bitterlaw says:

    I saw a woman post on FB that the killer driver in VA was forced to do it as a reaction to Obama. People who think like that are beyond help.

  445. Phil says:

    My solution is simple:

    *allow all the white nationalist types to congregate wherever they have a permit to do so.

    *let all the BLM and Sorus funded groups stream in to protest.

    *establish a perimeter of law enforcement around the whole bunch to seal them off from the outside world

    *allow both groups to be armed to the teeth

    *let them channel all that hate and get after it and annihilate each other

    America would be better after both sides finish each other off. The rest of the country can then go about their business of just living their own lives with no racial trouble to speak of. Of course the media then won’t have nearly as much to write about but so what?

  446. Big Joe says:

    #453- Sounds like the Kathy Griffin defense. 12U boys baseball. So glad to have that distraction.

    Baseball conquers all.

    Big Joe

  447. Walt says:

    1. I am afraid I’m beginning to move to Bitter’s corner as to personal philosophy.

    Recent events here in my family scream “Life sucks.”
    And recent events in the world, the nation and locally scream the same thing.
    _________________________________________
    2. Somehow, Cash Cow on the national scene fully grasps and articulates my own views on Charlottesville, etc., etc.
    _________________________
    3. On an international view, the world has gone crazy…
    …and we now see the un-rational crazy-ism now going full bore in the U.S.

    So on a personal level I have always held onto threads of optimism for the world, our nation and on family and personal matters close to home–and of really little interest to others beyond loved ones. I was taught to work hard to overcome adversity and obstacles, always look for the good in a bad situation and look for the silver lining. The silver linings have evaporated.

    At some points in my life I have been depressed due to various situations, but overcame those dark times. But I am about to throw in the towel and quit trying to solve problems. And resign myself to the realities of what is and will be–and regardless of how much you want a certain outcome, accept what is and will be.

    I am being deluged with slow motion train wrecks where I have no power of control and am helpless to change the outcomes. The only thing I can do is watch in deep dismay and utter disappointment and be buried in an avalanche of fricking frustration.

    I do not do well in handling situations where all you are is a powerless spectator. I wish I was more ignorant than I am and therefore more blissful and less overwhelmed.

    I am beginning to understand why some people just tune out from lots of stuf.f, stop trying to be engaged and retreat into their own small shell.

    I hope this mental state will pass, but who knows…

  448. Cash Cow TM says:

    DJT needs to hire Bitter as his speech writer.

    Bitter says it so much better than Trump is able to in his tortured use of the English language.

  449. Cash Cow TM says:

    “What is Robbie’s beef?”

    I thought Walt was the only one who had a ‘beef’.

  450. SanDiegoCitzen says:

    With the understandable angst about the events in Charlottesville, why wasn’t there a similar angst over what happened this weekend in Chicago?

    In Chicago shootings this weekend resulted in three dead and 15 wounded. So far in 2017, the death toll is 394 dead and 1894 wounded in shootings in Chicago; almost all the victims are young African-Americans. This is insanity — driven by gangs and drugs. It is taking place throughout the U.S. Where is the outrage? Robbie, you should be online blaming this on Trump.

    The fact that no one wants to even discuss, let alone address, the slaughter taking place in urban neighborhoods in the U.S. makes me highly suspicious of those who we are now exhibiting selective outrage over the events in Charlottesville. I have no use neo-Nazis involved; frankly believe anyone running around with a Nazi flag is a traitor. But the selective outrage of leftists strikes me as hypocrisy.

  451. Big Joe says:

    It’s “just another weekend” in Chicago, unfortunately. People don’t react to something that has become the norm.

    Big Joe

  452. Cash Cow TM says:

    I also agree, Phil.

    if there was 24/7 national news coverage on murders and violence in Chicago it would be different.

  453. Bitterlaw says:

    456 After more than 4 billion years on Earth, Walt is starting to see my point?

    Be strong, Walt. We need you to counter my gloom.

  454. lisab says:

    The fact that no one wants to even discuss, let alone address, the slaughter taking place in urban neighborhoods in the U.S. makes me highly suspicious of those who we are now exhibiting selective outrage over the events in Charlottesville.
    ————————-

    because it would take a lot of work to change things in chicago. you cannot just show up and scream obscenities and shoot mace at some poor uneducated white dude dressed in a sheet.

    beating poverty, gangs, drugs, hopelessness, and undereducation is very difficult and a lot about 10 steps forward an 9 steps back.

    how do you go into a home where the mother is on drugs with 3 children from 3 different fathers, and who is getting welfare money and fod stamps for staying home and convince them to give up the drugs and get a minimum wage job where she cannot sleep until noon and watch tv all night?

  455. janz says:

    #456 Walt,

    Saying that adversity is a part of life, is kind of trite. However, bad times/events often bookend good times/events, as one’s circumstances, power to overcome, etc. seem to be on a continuous sine wave, undulating up and down. And, although, “giving up” and/or “giving in” is always an option, sometimes it’s best to step out of a situation, stop dwelling on it and do nothing for awhile.

    Perhaps the saying, “This, too, shall pass, might align itself, Walt, with lifting your mood a bit higher. Such an old proverb reminds us that circumstances don’t stand still for long, during the serendipity course of life, which so frequently delivers pats on the back right after someone is recovering from a severe blow.

  456. lisab says:

    Perhaps the saying, “This, too, shall pass, might align itself, Walt, with lifting your mood a bit higher.
    —————————————–

    no no no …

    embrace the meaninglessness of the universe and your position in it

  457. janz says:

    Apparently it’s being more widely reported that the police were ordered to “stand down,” when violence was mounting in Charlottesville — similar to what happened in Baltimore and Berkeley.

    Also, when the governor of VA was asked if he wanted to condemn antifa as well as neo Nazi groups, he refused to answer. Nonetheless, the elite media and politicians continue to go wild over Trump deploring all bigotry and violence, rather than focusing solely on the mayhem triggered by a small group (several hundred) of white nationalists. What a bunch of hypocrites!

  458. lisab says:

    Military records appear to show that Fields served in the US army between August and December 2015.

    Weimer said he recalled Fields had wanted to join the army after graduating but had been turned down because the teenager had been prescribed medicine for a psychotic disorder.

  459. lisab says:

    Azerbaijan releases election results… before the polls even open
    Electoral commission accidentally publish results showing a victory for Ilham Aliyev, the country’s long-standing President, a day before voting

  460. Tina says:

    Janz, somebody gave the order and right now it is leading to the mayor. if he ordered the cops to,stand down, he is looking at harsh punishment from the justice dept.

  461. wvally says:

    The fact that left wing groups have been espousing racism and committing regular violence, and that there is so much hypocrisy in the reactions to Charlottesville, doesn’t excuse the Trump team’s communication failure on this event. All of the hypocrisy is well known, and the reaction to “both sides are bad” was easily anticipated.

    Trump is now the standard bearer of the republican party, and if thousands of people march on a city shouting “Jews will not replace us”, carrying torches, and holding signs with white nationalist & nazi symbols while shouting Trump’s name, he needs to reject that specifically, regardless of whether or not any violence occurred.

    You can defend people’s right to free speech while condemming their message.

  462. janz says:

    Tina, if the mayor is a Dem they will somehow be excused. If it is a R, get out the skewers, as the progressives will roast the mayor.

    Justice being judiciously rendered, nowadays, seems to depend more on party affiliation than on whether or not any criminal acts were committed.

  463. wvally says:

    I am beginning to understand why some people just tune out from lots of stuff, stop trying to be engaged and retreat into their own small shell.

    I hope this mental state will pass, but who knows…

    ***

    Walt you lived through the great expansion when living standards rose for each generation and most people were optimistic about the future. It’s understandable that it hits you hard to bear witness to the bleaker futures that so many in our families will have compared to recent generations. There is no family I know in which this is not the situation. For any 3 siblings, 1 succeeding, 1 is struggling, and 50/50 shot on the 3rd.

    Bottom line is that globalization is averaging the US middle class out with the developing world. That’s a downward trajectory for most people.

    We just have to be thankful we’re not actually in the 3rd world. Even for the people who’ve fallen off the track for the “good life” to the extent that they’ll never really dig out of their holes, it’s still better to be here than there. That’s something.

  464. janz says:

    Where does Trump’s statement warrant either excusing or excoriation? Because he was “inclusive,” in deploring any and all bigotry, racism, violence, rather than exclusively pointing out a small national gathering of white thugs that nails him to the wall of shame?

    The little I saw of the madness, there was a good representation of BLM members, black as well as white hoods -. Basically the drama and tension of the fringe groups were on display.

  465. wvally says:

    I’m not excoriating him, and its great that he deplores all forms of bigotry.

    But the BLM people aren’t claiming to speak in his name and be his supporters, and no one cares what he says about them and SJWs anyhow.

    If I were a conspiracy theorist I’d say this Charlottesville march was custom designed to damage him, and in a more significant way than the Russia bs. Stronger offense is called for in this case.

    His comms team is already taking steps in that direction (saying “of course Trump disavows Nazis”). Would’ve been smarter to realize the end game up front rather than be dragged to it.

  466. Trump John says:

    This is a pure Fake Media creation. May God Bless the Great Donald J. Trump

  467. Trump Davis says:

    #478 Yes Yes Yes! The media created this entire Fake story. The alt-right meets every year, why was CNN previewing it and covering it live this time? Because the dishonest media knew what was coming. Who drove the car? Can’t see from the video. And oh 3 different camera angles of the car video? Give me a break.

    And the poor girl killed, sorry but we have crisis actor.

    I stand with President Donald Trump #MAGA

  468. Trump John says:

    Face it, snowflakes. You LOST! The Confederacy lives and Donald Trump is our leader. We are taking our country back, we will fulfill the promises of Donald Trump!

  469. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Man knows more than he understands.”

    Thus says the little paper in the fortune cookie I cracked opened and munched.

  470. janz says:

    IMO, Trump gave an immediate, strong, but general condemnation of the violence in Charlottesville. That statement, though, quickly underwent a word dissection, with the word “all” taking most of the heat.

    Frankly, my brain is beginning to dull out by the incessant nitpicking being generated against this POTUS.

    The world is so fragmented, unfair, violent, that parsing the meaning and words of Trump’s unconventional public statements does little to help decrease the polarization of an ununified country, and focus attention on our most immediate problems.

  471. Trump Chang says:

    t breaks my heart that some people will blame President Trump because of all the slander the fake news and Deep State have accused him of. Look into his past, the black community has stood by him for a long time. Obama has caused this division in our country and was a fraud. He has caused all this chaos we are experiencing now with the racial divide, open borders, sanctuary cites, illegal criminals constantly being put back on our streets. Soros created BLM, a hate group that disrupted Trump rallies, caused riots on the street and demanding places not to let whites in. I stand by my President, I pray for him, his family and our country and it is time to stop hating and accept who is in office. He is doing great things!

  472. Trump John says:

    Absoluly right! everything was cool until, George soros sent in his goons antifida and BLM, and the guy to ram that crowd and kill and mane, that is not how we do it! Now that the left finally pushed one over the edge to create carnage, we will be blamed for months as it heats up as white suremacy hate groups totally ignoring the agitators that started it all.

    This is what Soros and Obama wanted. They killed the girl, not us. We are taking our country back and they don’t like it. You lost losers! #MAGA

  473. PresidentPaul! says:

    Family where mum is daddy, dad is mummy and son, 4, is being raised as gender neutral

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/family-mum-daddy-dad-mummy-10978802

    Parents Louise and Nikki Draven are raising Britain’s first gender-fluid family, bringing up their four-year-old son Star Cloud to “not get hung up” on being a boy.

    He will go to school for the first time in September wearing a boy’s uniform – but with pink vest and socks that he has chosen for the occasion.

    And the youngster himself says he might grow up to be a man or a woman.

    “We never tell Star he’s a boy, we tell him he can be whatever he wants. We don’t buy gender specific toys or clothes and we let him choose what he wears. Pink is one of his favourite colours.

    “He loves wearing leggings and, because of his name, he loves clothes with star patterns on.

    “He loves Barbie dolls, dressing up and fairies – but he also likes toys considered as boys’, such as cars.

    “We use the words ‘he’ and ‘him’ but don’t make any kind of big deal out of him being one sex or the other.”

  474. Trump Thomas says:

    So Soros pays to bus in the Antifa & BLM to a peaceful protest and guess who the MSM including FOX blames White supremacists. Being white in this country is not a crime!

    #MAGA

  475. Trump Janet says:

    President Trump your such a wonderful President!!!…This that happened is a George Soros funded and Hillary and Obama organizes it. If you here the name those protester spew out of their mouths is the same names Hillary spewed out of her mouth. She said she was going to join the resistance and we know this is her and Obama’s agenda. You just keep being the Great President you are and stop these groups from letting them do this to America. I thank God for you President Trump…THANK YOU!

    #MAGA

  476. wvally says:

    The Confederacy lives and Donald Trump is our leader.

    ***

    Sorry Charlie we don’t support your confederacy revivalism and never will. And if you’re gonna run around proclaiming Trump is your leader with a megaphone, he will be forced to reject you. Watch.

  477. lisab says:

    Fields Jr. wanted to go into military service but was rejected on mental health grounds.

    “His senior year, he was real gung-ho about joining the Army,” Weimer said. “And he, towards the end of the year, found out that he was denied, and it was because of a history of anti-psychotic mediation that he was prescribed.”

  478. janz says:

    I have no idea who all the alternative Trump paradies/personalities are posting here now. However, whether people belong to far right white nationists groups or the far left antifa ones, what they espouse isn’t good for the country. We are basically destroying ourselves from within with all the divisiveness.

  479. Trump John says:

    “we don’t support your confederacy revivalis”

    Who is we?

    “he will be forced to reject you. ”

    No, we President Trump is fully behind us. We voted for him because he said he is going to help us take our country back. #MAGA

  480. janz says:

    #478. After reading all the insane trump-twin posts, you may have a point about your conspiracy theory….

  481. Trump Davis says:

    Correct janz. The Fake Media is paid for by Soros and Obama. They are very dishonest and are the enemy of the people!

  482. PresidentPaul! says:

    EXCLUSIVE: Trump allies rally around Sen. Flake’s primary challenger

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/346149-exclusive-trump-allies-rally-around-sen-flakes-primary-challenger

    Eric Beach, the founder and co-chair of Great America PAC, and Brent Lowder, the group’s executive director, will join Ward’s campaign, according to a release obtained by The Hill.

  483. Trump Davis says:

    Even Fox has turned against us. We must stand together. The great people of this web site are going to help #MAGA. We stand together and we must take our country back from Soros and Clinton thugs

  484. janz says:

    Trump-mimics

    You all sound like one poster, splintering comments into multiples, in order to promote a confusing mockery of the tragedy which just occurred.

  485. Trump Davis says:

    janz, you need to think for yourself. The Fake Media is trying has brainwashed the people. This the work of Soros and the Evil Left. We will not stand for this. Donald Trump will lead us!

  486. PresidentPaul! says:

    Kelli Ward for senate: McCain is “Directly Responsible” for ISIS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzV9bjMg2ZU

  487. Trump Stan says:

    Finally we have a President who talks directly to his people without reading staged slogans. Making decisions on the spot,especially when dealing with North Korea.Knowing him as the person of getting things done and he’s doing it. I will definitely vote for him again

  488. Trump SUCKS says:

    Where’s your statement about the mosque bombing in Minnesota more than a week ago? ? ?

  489. PresidentPaul! says:

    Ha Trump Stan trolled CNN in feb

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwlA8kPGt4

  490. Trump SUCKS says:

    Why can’t you condemn white supremacists? Why does your daughter have to speak for you?

  491. lisab says:

    big protests going down in seattle today

    police using tear gas on crowd

  492. Trump John says:

    We will not be silenced. We are in Seattle. We are going to Lexington. We are going to Portland. We are going to Richmond. We are going all over.

    #MAGA

  493. Trump Stan says:

    It’s funny how the Fake Media keeps showing the Nazi flag but refuses to show all the Communist and Che Guevara flags that the Left was waving.

    So dishonest!

  494. lisab says:

    we must remember this truth: no matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are all americans first.

    barack obama

  495. lisab says:

    protestors attacking some police in seattle

    got maced

  496. Trump John says:

    It’s America First, and that’s the way it should be. Finally, we have a president who is not afraid to say it. AMERICA FIRST!!

    #MAGA

  497. Bitterlaw says:

    Dear Wizard – The Trump trolls have ruined this site. Even if you are not going to control it, can we at least know who is destroying HHR?

    Thank you.

  498. lisab says:

    POLICE ‘STAND DOWN’ BLAMED FOR VIRGINIA CHAOS

    drudge headline now

    that is not good

  499. lisab says:

    seattle heating up

    police confiscated weapons from antifa protesters

    parts of seattle now under a dispersal order

  500. lisab says:

    Bitterlaw,

    i imagine they post under false emails

  501. Tina says:

    The mayor is in trouble, if it is proven by doj that he orderred a stand down, Resources were present.

  502. Tina says:

    Proof that they are targeting civil righs violation on everybody, including the Va politicos.

  503. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – The Wizard could figure it out. He managed to ban I P. Bunu was blocked for a long time.

  504. lisab says:

    i don’t think the wizard checks the comments any more

    i have emailed him in the past, so at least he used to check that

  505. Bitterlaw says:

    I also e-mailed him. We have been forsaken.

  506. wvally says:

    Test

  507. lisab says:

    the humorous part is that with very few exceptions hhr is mostly made up of people who would be considered

    the gop establishment and anti-trumpers, including the wizard himself

    yet the people like robbie and cg and md etc. or whoever is posting find the slightest deviation from the antifa party line a threat enough to target hhr

    did even one hhr regular support trump? i think you were the closest who voted for him as the better choice than hillary and said you would early on.

  508. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – I hated Trump from the day he declared that he was running. I criticized him as much or more than any Never Trumper. Unfortunately, in the real world, he was the only way to stop her.

  509. lisab says:

    however you are not quite anti-trump enough

    so you are a fascist obviously

  510. lisab says:

    i’ll save you a bunk with a window at the gulag

  511. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, lisab. That is kind of you.

  512. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4786826/Nationalist-FIRED-Twitter-names-shames-protesters.html

    Remember. You have a First Amendment right to be a racist. Your employer has a right to fire you because of it.

    NYC to ask why I think somebody at a rally with the KKK and neo-Nazis is a racist in 3…2…1…

  513. janz says:

    This Powerline piece, What is wrong with President Trump’s statements on Charlottesville is pretty close to my first take on it:

    “Trump’s position may or may not be politically wise, but I am sympathetic to it. What his critics want him to do is denounce white supremacist groups to the exclusion of anyone else. The problem with his statements, in the eyes of critics, is they are too even-handed. Trump’s denunciation includes both the white supremacists in Charlottesville and the fascist “antifas” who counter-protested, as well as other hate groups.”

    IMO, hate is hate, whoever is spewing it.

    And, this is similar to what WV was alluding to in one of her posts:

    “So why are the critics so eager to force the president to single out the white supremacists? Because they want to tie him to the “alt-right.” They want an implicit admission from President Trump that the nuts who marched in Charlottesville and the man who drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters had something to do with him.

  514. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    526. One of those fired had a job in a restaurant in, of all places, Berkeley, California. You have got to be kidding! Possibly the most liberal place in the U.S. He must have been around leftist UC students, the East Bay’s large African American community, and every liberal imaginable.

    Yet secretly in his mind, he pined longingly for the Third Reich, and traveled across the coast to protest at the sight of a Jefferson Davis monument. Even for the Bay Area, this is unusually weird.

  515. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    527. I think we can safely assume, whatever Trump said, the left would have tried to use it against him. Both Pence and Ivanka Trump condemned the white supremacists, both are high up in his Administration. Agree with Trump, all violence must be condemned.

  516. wvally says:

    Fair enough Janz–he doesn’t want to associate himself w them. But they are associating themselves with him, and will continue to do so, with a constant assist from MSM.

  517. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump could have avoided this by following one rule – Address the issue before you. If a bunch of Klansmen and neo-Nazis hold a rally that turns violent – CONDEMN KLANSMEN AND NEONAZIS.

    If the leftists hold a rally that turns – CONDEMN LEFTISTS.

    See how simple that was? Actually, it could be even easier. Start every press conference by saying the KKK and Neonazis can F off.

  518. janz says:

    What should Gov.Terry McAuliffe be called on and own in the Charlottesville debacle?

    # 529 Well said SanDiegoCitizen.

    # 530 wv — I’m convinced that whatever Trump says or does, there will be stinging criticism from everyone (both D & R) who oppose him and his presidency. Also, I think a good majority of this negative blow back is more attributable to these peoples’ disdain for the man, rather than a neutral, unbiased assessment of what he has and has not accomplished.

  519. Bitterlaw says:

    WV – Trump could get them to disassociate themselves quickly. Prosecute every white nationalist scumbag at that rally doing something violentwith something. Carrying a torch? Violation of EPA emissions regulations. Trip over a mailbox? Destruction of Federal property.

    Is that fair? No. Is it legal? Maybe. Maybe not. Let them sweat it out.

  520. Tina says:

    Comdemn antifa and the kkk.

    They

  521. Tina says:

    They suck.

  522. Tina says:

    What about antifa? They should get prosecuted for violent acts.too.

    Prosecute the mayor too, if he orderd a stand down,

    Ecidence suggests that cops pulled back. So,e say ran away. That is not fair. However, the response to the crowd that was hit by the cops suggest five minutes, or more. This tells me that they were ordered back.

  523. Tina says:

    Weird sdc, probably may have worked for a restaurant that I frequented once or twice a year. Berkeley sucks too.

  524. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – I was going to wait until the next Antifa riot for those prosecutions. Don’t muddy the message. They will get their turn

  525. janz says:

    #533 the same prosecution should be handed out to anyone torching vehicles, smashing windows, intimidating and/or injuring others, regardless of what extreme group they are demonstrating on behalf of.

  526. Tina says:

    Metak bats, flame throwers, cement filled soda bottles, all were used by antifa. How or why didmthe cops allow them to. Ix close with the kkk losahs?

  527. Tina says:

    This is what doj is looking at bitter, janz, etc. the guy is basically charged with second degree murder. Why not go all out and go for a first degree, if that was not the case. The fbi shoukd learn his true motives.

    The mayor could be in a lot of trouble.

  528. Tina says:

    I a, trying to say that the doj is not simply looking at his motives, but antifa as wells. Cops are getting a bad rap for doing as apparently ordered by the leftist mayor.

    The leftist mayor will be subpoenaed and may get jail time.

  529. Tina says:

    Well, bitterlaw, the next riot just happened in seattle today.

  530. Tina says:

    Do you contune tomgive them free passes!

  531. Tina says:

    VA Police Spox Corinne Geller to @dougmckelway on @ANHQDC: describes the earlier violence, people throwing ” soda cans with cement in them”

  532. janz says:

    Tina, I think the guy who mowed people down should be prosecuted to the highest degree, drawing a benchmark line of no toleration for this kind of act. I really don’t know how they came up with 2nd degree charge, on what was clearly an intended act to harm, maim, or kill people.

  533. janz says:

    Who were throwing the cement-filled soda cans?

  534. Tina says:

    Antifa, reported by everybody from that va official to reporters.

    I agree, jqnz, not sure why they “settled” on a lesser charge. Fbi, justice will not interfere with that call, however.

  535. Tina says:

    There are photos suggesting antifa being bussed in.

  536. lisab says:

    The leftist mayor will be subpoenaed and may get jail time.
    ——————–

    i don’t see that happening. it would cause riots and propel the mayor to the head of the dem party.

    option a: crack down very hard and hope he does not become a matyr

    option 2: expose what happened and let him skate.

    i think option 2 is better

  537. lisab says:

    #526 regarding the man who got fired from his job

    the problem i have with that is now people on both sides will start covering their faces and that allows people to act very badly

    i would much rather have the police say “no covered faces” or we assume you are up to no good and detainable.

    although it obviously would mean less to the antifa to be exposed. it is not like they will get kicked out of their parents’ basement and lose their part-time job at starbucks

  538. Cash Cow TM says:

    Black lives matter whackadoodles have discovered there is a statue of WV native Stonewall Jackson on the capitol grounds in Charleston WV and are protesting there and being ass hats.

  539. Tina says:

    I do not see it either, janz. However, there will be more reports as to why the cops withdrew, ran away, or backed away.

  540. Tina says:

    Whooos, sorry, janz, meant lisa

  541. lisab says:

    “I agree, jqnz, not sure why they “settled” on a lesser charge. ”

    oh, i know this, the charges are not necessarily complete. however, the charge allows him to be held.

    he has a plausible “excuse/defense” in that his car was attacked prior to his running over people. he has some mental issues.

    he can plausibly claim he panicked.

    or

    they can charge him with a higher charge.

    from what i have read some cops don’t think it was premeditated before his car was attacked. they are trying to see if he made threatening statements to anyone before he went to virginia

  542. lisab says:

    Black lives matter whackadoodles have discovered there is a statue of WV native Stonewall Jackson on the capitol grounds in Charleston WV and are protesting there and being ass hats.
    —————————————-

    cool

    there is a statue to lenin in seattle … oh wait

  543. lisab says:

    remember when the muslims were blowing up all the budhist statues in afghanistan?

    welcome to america!

    yay!

  544. Tina says:

    Lisab, if those prove out, he could be only guilty of manslaughter.

  545. lisab says:

    imagine you have to renew your liquor license for your family owned restaurant

    you walk in to pay the fee

    and a robbie is the clerk

    either you stand up now or suffer the consequences

    just sayin

  546. lisab says:

    Lisab, if those prove out, he could be only guilty of manslaughter.
    ———————-

    his car was attacked

    he has psychotic problems

    those two things are not really in doubt.

    it probably won’t help him. in a non-political situation he would likely get manslaughter

    in this case … i think he gets a very long sentence. running over and killing a blm protester? 10 years in the best case scenario.

  547. Cash Cow TM says:

    prosecute

    cute prose
    scout peer
    puree cost
    cee sprout
    Crete soup

  548. lisab says:

    the thing is, these antifa people believe that you are the bad people, and they are helping people.

    they really don’t care if you won a silly election

    you are, i hesitate to say evil because that implies some sort of religious morality, but yes evil. they are good people and trying to get you to give everyone free college and free healthcare and free housing and free internet etc.

    if only you could understand how eveil you are you would join them. except they need you to pay taxes so keep working.

  549. Cash Cow TM says:

    Nobody posting here now except us girls…

    What you other gals wanna talk about?

  550. Cash Cow TM says:

    I mean girl talk, now that they guys are off here….

  551. Cash Cow TM says:

    antifa

    a faint
    (but it should be “feint”)

  552. Cash Cow TM says:

    antifa

    a faint
    (but it should be “feint”)

    in NAFTA?

  553. Tina says:

    I say let the facts xo e out. No reason to jump to conclusions, but the guy did a crime, question as to how severe.

  554. Cash Cow TM says:

    Tina,

    I hear today that San Fran wins the prize for highest gasoline prices this week. $3.02/gal?

  555. Tina says:

    $2.56 in my neck of the woods, that would be cheap historically, cash cog, given the last 7 years.

  556. lisab says:

    $2.19 for us

  557. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    568. “I hear today that San Fran wins the prize for highest gasoline prices this week. $3.02/gal?”

    Is that a joke Cow? The below are the highest prices in San Diego, $3.79. The station I usually go to is $3.49
    _____________

    Sinclair
    400 Orange Ave & 4th St
    Coronado, Ric177, 10 hours ago,3.79

    Shell
    515 N Magnolia Ave & E Madison Ave
    El Cajon, Ric177, 3.79

    Chevron, 5322 Jackson Dr & Center Dr
    La Mesa, anon1232015, 8 hours ago
    3.79

    Chevron
    16998 W Bernardo Dr & Rancho Bernardo Rd
    Rancho Bernardo, aacura98
    5 hours ago, 3.79

    Union 76 2804 Garnet Ave & Mission Bay Dr
    Pacific Beach, henrytwin, 5 hours ago
    3.79

    Chevron, 1999 Sweetwater Rd & Euclid Ave
    National City, kane2, 3 hours ago, 3.69

    Shell, 2521 Pacific Hwy & W Laurel St
    San Diego – Central, NightBoy, 17 hours ago
    3.69

  558. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    571. In Los Angeles the gas price in some places is above $4.00, but mostly the highest prices are in the $3.79-3.90 range.

    Remember California has high gasoline taxes, and California requires a special blend for its gasoline, which is only produced at a couple refineries.

  559. JC says:

    $4.00 in Cali? Damn

    Only $1.98 in TX

  560. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Even though it is a longer trip, you can sometimes spend less money on gasoline when driving from Los Angeles to Seattle by driving I-15/84 through Las Vegas, Salt Lake City and Boise to Washington, than by driving on I-5 thorough the length of California to Washington.

  561. Phil says:

    California conservatives held hostage. I fear it will only get worse as the whacko environmental socialists and statists have absolute and total political control in that state. Housing, gas, taxes…….How the hell do Californians afford to live? It’s nuts…..and yet, it becomes more whacko leftist by the day.

    Ronald Reagan elected governor out there twice. How in the world could such a great state have gone from that to where it is today. Sad and it is only going to continue to get worse. Election Day and regardless of the office a conservative out there has no hope of changing anything.

  562. Bitterlaw says:

    SD – You lost me at ” longer trip.” I would pay twice as much for gas to save 1 hour.

  563. Tina says:

    I would just pay the extra $$$ and not do the longer road trip.

  564. Robbie says:

    Trump found time today to criticize the African American CEO of Merck, who stepped down from one of his advisory boards over the actions of this past weekend, but Trump has still not found time to specifically attack, in his own words or on Twitter, the white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and the KKK.

    Trump has found time to attack Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, Mika’s facelift, the Khan family, Judge Curiel, Meryl Streep, and a whole host of other people though.

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump

    Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President’s Manufacturing Council,he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!

  565. Tina says:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-14/nyt-shocking-report-us-ally-ukraine-source-north-korean-missile-engines

    If true, another failed obama, mcamnesty, goober foreign adventure.

    Ukraine provided critical equipmemt to the nk.

  566. Tina says:

    2016 candidates under federal investigation

    Her Thighness.

    Cccp

  567. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    ·
    9m
    Trump came out strongly against ALL hate groups. The Democrats are just upset because he included their friends in #Antifa.

    35

    218

    373

    Bill Mitchell
    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    ·
    11m
    Welcome to the manufactured #Racegate folks. This is the Democrat’s replacement for the failed #Russiagate. They have no agenda.

    Triggering.

  568. Tina says:

    When muh russian turned into ukraine, dnc beach internal, hillary emails, the drats needed anither fake news event.

  569. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    All White Supremacy Groups are pond scum.
    Do you believe the same for the AntiFa and Black Lives Matter?

  570. Cash Cow TM says:

    After a night’s sleep…Walt says life still sucks.

  571. Tina says:

    Ana Navarro: No, no, no, no. You can’t say this is both sides of violence. What we saw was some white supremacists and then what we saw was some brave people risking their lives and putting themselves in between white supremacists and what they were doing.

    She must have not been watchng. Press reports, observers, va officials say otherwise, fugly.

  572. Jonesy says:

    Robbie get help. You have become a Snowflake

  573. McCain says:

    Oppression and resistance aren’t two sides of the same coin — they are two very different coins.

  574. Jonesy says:

    I never saw Obama, or the MSM, apologize for the actions of the Black Panthers.

    They are all scum on both sides, but it is the double standard that is pathetic.

  575. McCain says:

    You are an idiot, Jonesy.

  576. McCain says:

    Black Lives Matter is not a supremacist group. I am a white person who is a part of Black Lives Matter.

  577. Phil says:

    White supremacist groups and BLM have the same thing in common. They are both racist. The overwhelming majority of Americans don’t have any use for either.

  578. Robbie says:

    The speech Trump just delivered was necessary and appropriate. It’s also the one he should have delivered on Saturday afternoon. Better late than never, but his decision to clean up Saturday’s comments are a sign his staff realized he screwed up the first time.

    And oh by the way, he didn’t mention antifa, BLM, or any of the other smokescreens his zombified supporters threw out there the last 48 hours.

  579. lisab says:

    SD – You lost me at ” longer trip.” I would pay twice as much for gas to save 1 hour.
    ———————–

    says mr. moneypants

  580. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 14, 2017 at 9:57 am
    Robbie
    All White Supremacy Groups are pond scum.
    Do you believe the same for the AntiFa and Black Lives Matter?

    – Trump finally condemned white supremacists, neo-Nazis and, the KKK, but he didn’t mention antifa or BLM.

    Did the globalists get to Trump?

  581. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    August 14, 2017 at 10:38 am
    Robbie get help. You have become a Snowflake

    – You thought Trump’s comments on Saturday were great. Today he had to come out and denounce white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and the KKK.

    Did he become a snowflake for giving into to those in his party or the meanies in the press who said his statement was weak?

    Sad!

  582. Robbie says:

    If Donald Trump hadn’t surrounded himself with alt-right characters like Steve Bannon or played footsie with these repugnant groups during the campaign, his comments on Saturday probably wouldn’t have been viewed so unfavorably.

  583. lisab says:

    Why Mitch McConnell can’t get tax cuts done…
    —————–

    because the gop does not want to cut taxes

  584. Bitterlaw says:

    I never saw Obama, or the MSM, apologize for the actions of the Black Panthers.

    Both of them? Philadelphia only has 2.

  585. Bitterlaw says:

    Well, 2 in 2008. They may have retired by now.

  586. lisab says:

    i think he meant the blm guy who shot the 9 cops and killing 5

  587. janz says:

    There are some interesting “observations” noted in Steven Hayward’s Powerline piece.

    One was a reminder of the Ku Klux Klan membership rolls in 1920’s — all affiliated with the democrat party — of around 4 million! In fact they were significant enough in size to have created a viable challenge in taking control of the DNC in 1924.

    Although Hayward doesn’t say how many KKK members there are floating around today, the Charlottesville’s rally — a nationally organized event — had Friday’s torch-carrying marchers estimated to be in the “hundreds.” This group’s presence in the country has basically come, been shamed, diminished, and is almost gone, with only a backwash of survivors struggling to keep their primitive, unpopular orthodoxy alive.

    Nonetheless, in the sparsely attended Charlottesville demonstration, the Nationalists’ hatefulness seemed focused on camera shots dramatically displaying their distasteful racist, bigoted proclivities —-Nazi signs, torches etc. — rather than malevolently acting them out. Because, even though rifles were carried, no shots were fired. The actual causative agent of the deadly escalation seemed to be a lack of police/city/state officials’ planning, intervention, and supervision allowing lines to be crossed, random skirmishes to erupt, violence to grow, and people to get hurt and killed. IOW, the ingredients for this tragedy were wide spread, and can be laid at the feet of a number of out-of-control and/or deranged people, as well as inept, perhaps ideologically-motivated bureaucrats and politicians.

    Furthermore, the hate group on the rise, and seemingly flourishing, is Antifada. Somehow, maybe because of it’s members repudiation of Trump, their actions seem less “hateful,” overall, in the public narratives put out by the MSM. Instead, the democrat media’s focus remains riveted on racial animosities and misdeeds seated in the past, giving the outliers who still preach them, far more relevance and self-importance than they deserve. In the meantime, Marxist constructs and the increasing acceptance of socialism as antidotes to our problems, is a malady making incredible cultural inroads in our society. Left alone by an incurious, somewhat supportive MSM, they seem to be gradually and successfully silencing those who oppose their under-the-radar but PC screeds of hate, bigotry, intolerance, and divisiveness.

  588. janz says:

    High gasoline prices in CA are dependent on where you buy your gas. In a Los Angeles Costco the price for regular is $2.69, and premium is $2.89. If you’re on I 5, @ Harris Ranch (in the middle of nowhere), it’s at least 50 cents, or more, higher.

  589. lisab says:

    One was a reminder of the Ku Klux Klan membership rolls in 1920’s — all affiliated with the democrat party — of around 4 million! In fact they were significant enough in size to have created a viable challenge in taking control of the DNC in 1924.
    ————————–

    they actually were able to take over the governor’s house of indiana!

  590. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    597. “SD – You lost me at ” longer trip.” I would pay twice as much for gas to save 1 hour. says mr. moneypants”

    I was only mentioning it as a fact to show how high gas prices were in California. The reason I take that route is have friend, family & business along the longer route. Would not recommend it as an alternative unless you wanted to go to the national parks or Las Vegas.

    Both routes are near very scenic areas.
    For all its problems, California is a very beautiful state.

  591. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    606. For whatever reason, San Diego has always had very high gas prices — sometimes highest in the nation. One reason is San Diego has strict zoning laws where you can put a gas station. Sometimes they are hard to find in the newer areas. My guess would be that a large part, if not a majority, of San Diego’s population support the strict zoning, despite the higher gas prices.

  592. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    606. Janz, Costco has cheaper gas, but your paying something like $120 a year to be a member of Costco. If you drive a lot, that might make it worth it, and you get good cost savings shopping there.

  593. Phil says:

    California is indeed a beautiful state.

  594. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The female Trumps are under attack for wearing high heal shoes. Robbie you need to post your outrage at Trump for allowing this!

    “In the piece, which was titled “Melania, Ivanka, and Ivana Trump Wear High Heels, a Symbol of Everything That Is Beautiful and Horrifying About Them,” author Nina Burleigh wrote that high heels are out of fashion, but the Trump women still wear them.

    She said that’s because the they are primarily concerned with appearing attractive to men, not wearing comfortable footwear.

    “Historically, the Trumpian women’s shoe of choice was invented not for women but for aristocratic men, men who would never have to work, and who didn’t have to walk much but were carried in litters or carriages,” Burleigh wrote. “Paintings of Louis XIV, the Sun King, show him sporting red-soled heels, posing with one foot forward and pointed out— much like Ivana and Ivanka Trump in countless photographs over the years.” “

  595. Wes says:

    Nina Burleigh famously said she’d give Bill Clinton oral sex for keeping abortion legal.

  596. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    590. “Robbie get help. You have become a Snowflake”

    Any self-respecting snowflake would melt just hearing you make that suggestion. Have you no shame?

  597. Tina says:

    Janz, Coalinga, has absurd prices,

    Harris Ranch is good though

  598. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    615. “Janz, Coalinga, has absurd prices,”

    Sort of irony with all the oil production around Coalinga. People forget that less than 100 years ago, California produced about 1/4 of the world’s oil.

    https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/when-oil-derricks-ruled-the-la-landscape

  599. lisab says:

    well … i am not sure about this … but in that case she would not need an abortion, would she?

  600. lisab says:

    “F*ck Zuck 2020” Street Artist’s Facebook Page Shut Down as “Hate Speech”

  601. Tina says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/14/donald-trump-condemns-hate-groups/amp/

    Look at the drats still playing politics. Run with this and not muh russian.

  602. Tina says:

    Coalinga has a wonderful smell too.

    Sarc

  603. McCain says:

    I really think Trump hates what America stands for. He hates the constitution, the first amendment and the freedom that we have been fighting for in this nation for over 200 years.

  604. Phil says:

    No, pal. That would be the left. First amendment and freedom? Paid any attention to college leftists respect for freedom of speech on college campuses?

    I didn’t think so. Spare us the drivel on freedom of speech.

  605. Jonesy says:

    The only voters offended by the unwarranted attack on Trump for Va, voted for Hillary and Bernie anyway.

    will not move the needle.

    Robbie Sad

  606. Jonesy says:

    Correct Tina. Robbie spent months pushing Russia, now that its a nothing burger, he pushes the Race War.

    White Guy from Kentucky is now a snowflake Justice warrior. LOL

  607. Phil says:

    Doesn’t move it at all, but don’t worry. They will be on to another Trump “outrage” by tomorrow. Robbie may even have something new by happy hour.

  608. Tina says:

    Look at how unhinged ann navarro is. She used a line used by the nazis and is too dumb to realize it.

  609. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have free gas.

    And I refuse to wear high heels.

  610. Tina says:

    The leftists are even mire unhinged post second condemnation.

  611. lisab says:

    Correct Tina. Robbie spent months pushing Russia, now that its a nothing burger, he pushes the Race War.
    ——————————–
    now now

    remember how upset he was when the bernie supporter tried to assassinate the republican congressmen, he spent the entire thread … well … attacking trump …

    see here
    http://davidwissing.com/?p=24708

  612. lisab says:

    The leftists are even mire unhinged post second condemnation.
    ——————–

    boston next week should be much worse

    i hope they are not allowed to march

  613. lisab says:

    anytime you have a bunch of people covering their faces protesting — whether kkk or antifa — bad things will happen

  614. Tina says:

    The same media condemned all sides post shooting.

  615. Tina says:

    The two do not mix. The stand down order will have to be investigated. Stupid to not keep the groups separate, even though antifa did not have a permit and the kkk is stupid.

  616. Tina says:

    So, the drat troll

    Bkamed trump for the shooting.

    Bkamed trump for condemning the kkk.

  617. Jonesy says:

    626. LOL. spot on Phil

  618. lisab says:

    Ana Navarro: Trump ‘Unfit To Be A Human’
    ———————-

    maybe antifa can set up camps where they take care of those who are unfit to be human

  619. lisab says:

    if you were going to hold a far right rally, where would you hold it?

    seattle seems like the perfect place where the number of kkk people around would vastly outnumber the number of antifa snowflakes

  620. lisab says:

    just think of the travel expenses the kkk people saved by holding it in seatle

  621. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    August 14, 2017 at 3:32 pm
    The only voters offended by the unwarranted attack on Trump for Va, voted for Hillary and Bernie anyway.
    will not move the needle.
    Robbie Sad

    – The weakness of this pathetic comeback speaks to how difficult it is to defend the indefensible, but that’s what it means to be a reflexive Trump apologist. Defend the indefensible with pathetic retorts.

  622. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 14, 2017 at 3:36 pm
    Doesn’t move it at all, but don’t worry. They will be on to another Trump “outrage” by tomorrow. Robbie may even have something new by happy hour.

    – Seems like it has moved the needle because Trump has crashed to 34% in Gallup.

    But you are right about one thing. Trump will careen into a new crisis soon. It will bother me and you will defend him because it’s part of a the deep state silent coup.

  623. wvally says:

    From Bloomberg: White Nationalists Say Charlottesville Was Just a Beginning

    A neo-Nazi website that helped promote the gathering said there will be more events soon.

    “We are going to start doing this nonstop. Across the country.”

  624. lisab says:

    “We are going to start doing this nonstop. Across the country.”
    ————————————

    if there is continual violence, as i assume there will be in many cities, at some point some mayor will step in and arrest the lot of them

    and they will find out what it is like to spend 6 mnths in jail

  625. Bitterlaw says:

    Bunu has been pretty silent since Saturday. Maybe he is busy buying torches for the next rally.