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Moore Dominating Strange in AL Runoff

The first post-primary runoff poll is out in Alabama and it shows Roy Moore with nearly a 20% lead over the incumbent Luther Strange. The latest numbers from JMC Analytics.

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (JMC Analytics)
Roy Moore 51%
Luther Strange (inc) 32%

This poll was done August 17-19 among 515 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 9:44 pm
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369 Responses to “Moore Dominating Strange in AL Runoff”

  1. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1st

  2. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    One of the reason the Finnish knife attacker did not injure more people (he targeted women) was several males intervened and attacked him, stopping him from stabbing more people. Here are the identities of two of those who helped stop him.

    “Hassan Zubier, a 45-year-old British medic who lives in Stockholm. He was visiting Turku as a tourist, along with his partner, who was stabbed in the shoulder.

    Zubier was stabbed multiple times as he tried to defend her and to save the life of another woman stabbed in the attack. Zubier arrived in a wheelchair but stood up along with others around a sea of candles and flowers during the moment of silence at 10 am.”

    “Meanwhile local paper Turun Sanomat carries a story on Sunday about local resident Ahmad Hosseini, 18, who brought flowers to the site on Saturday. Hosseini, an Afghan asylum seeker, was among those who chased the assailant and provided first aid to victims on Friday. He is studying to become a practical nurse while awaiting an asylum decision. He has lived in Finland since 2015.”

  3. wvally says:

    Interesting exchange between my sister and brother in our family IM chain.

    ***

    Interested in feedback on this article…

    Robert Mercer: the big data billionaire waging war on mainstream media
    With links to Donald Trump, Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage, the rightwing American computer scientist is at the heart of a multimillion-dollar propaganda network

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage

    ***

    Seems like fake news to me

    They want us to believe Mercer is manipulating us through social media. Whereas Soros and his billions are manipulating social change on a far larger scale.

    And Google, Facebook and Twitter actually own the real data on us. And they’re on Soros side.
    They don’t need to scrape data from their sites like Mercer’s psyops campaigners.

    Media Matters is probably a far larger psyops operation, with far deeper pockets
    And they have the social media companies on their side

    So this article tries to make a case that maybe what Mercer is doing should be illegal, scraping public data

    In reality, the data the social companies are gathering is far far more powerful
    And they’re manipulating hearts and minds on a far larger scale

    Mercer can’t read this conversation we’re having. Facebook can.

    And if it wasn’t Mercer taking on the mainstream brain washing machine, who would? The farmers? Clearly the right is outgunned on the media and social front

    Like, CNN has reporters now arguing that Jefferson and Washington memorials should be taken down. That sh*t just doesn’t happen organically in America, at this speed.

  4. Tina says:

    Roy Moore does not respect judicial opinions. Have to go with strange here, but he is mitchies candidiate and mitxhie is toxic.

  5. Bitterlaw says:

    GFY, Trump. I have posted every single time that a law enforcement person is killed how sad it makes me. I have also repeatedly said that when these brutal attacks occur that I reach out to see how a girl I know is doing since her date is a cop. Go F uck Yourself.

    As for your stupid question, read what I wrote? I said that Trump would be more effective condemning the left immediately if he had condemned the racists immediately in Charlottesville clearly with a young woman dead.

  6. Trump says:

    Step2, as&hole.

    Is it time now, or not?

  7. Trump says:

    Next week?

  8. Tina says:

    Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto
    Replying to @jimsciutto
    4 collisions by USN ships in 1 year:
    21 Aug: USS McCain
    17 June: USS Fitzgerald
    9 May: USS Lake Champlain
    19 Aug 2016: USS Louisiana

    This is disturbing, i doubt that they are all accidents.

  9. Trump says:

    I’ll let Mr Bitterlaw decide if it is time to commence Step 2 of his 2-step approach.

    Or whether a few more policemen need to be killed before commencing Step 2?

    “Bitterlaw: “I liked Romney’s statement. I said last weekend that Trump should have taken a 2 step approach. Step 1 – Blast the white supremacist and do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Just to reiterate:

    “The other night a man named Everett Glenn Miller ambushed a murdered two Kissimmee police officers. What hasn’t been reported much? Miller used the same logic that Antifa does to justify his murders,” according to a reporter with the Orlando CBS affiliate WKMG-TV:

    The agency has not disclosed why the former Marine was involuntarily committed to a mental health facility under Florida’s Baker Act, nor is it known whether Miller received any treatment.

    Miller unofficially changed his name to Malik Mohammad Ali, acquaintances confirmed, although Miller wrote on his Facebook page that he is not Muslim and does identify with any other religion.

    In the days prior to the shooting, Miller posted several articles on Facebook related to the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    On the morning the police officers were killed, Miller posted a meme of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that included the caption, “When I said march I didn’t mean forever (expletive). Shoot back.”

    “You can only poke a tie (sic) up dog so long,” Miller wrote above the photo. “Once that chain breaks it’s over. Wake up America before it’s too late.”

    Later that day, just hours before Miller would be accused of murdering two police officers, he posted an article on Facebook suggesting white supremacists had infiltrated police departments.

    “F— you, rich bastards,” Miller wrote above photos of police officers allegedly wearing KKK hoods.”

  10. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter Retweeted
    Bill Mitchell
    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    ·
    2h
    Democrats are now publicly stating that #Antifa violence is justified!!! Folks, you are witnessing a political Party’s descent into madness.

    Let them go down that route, along with the tin ear republicrats.

  11. Trump says:

    “Trump sends ‘thoughts and prayers’ to Florida police officers after shooting”

    Is there any word from Romney and Rubio? crickets?

  12. Tina says:

    https://t.co/WnOcYrSkJA?amp=1

    Let them sell antifa. They own it.

  13. Trump says:

    I am sure Bitterlaw “liked Romney’s statement”.

    Or non-statement, in this case.

  14. Trump says:

    Romney is scum.

    One fascist gets killed, Trump should apologize.

    Two policemen killed, nothing.

  15. Tina says:

    Josh Caplan @joshdcaplan
    NEW YORK POST: Federal authorities probing whether Imran Awan, former IT staffer to Rep. Wasserman Schultz, sold sensitive intel to Russia

    This news will be buried.

  16. Trump says:

    “Within four hours of the shooting, President Trump, who ran a campaign emphasizing law and order, tweeted, “My thoughts and prayers are with the @KissimmeePolice and their loved ones. We are with you!”

    Florida Gov. Rick Scott issued a statement saying he was “hearbroken.”

    “Our law enforcement officers are true heroes and we will miss these brave Floridians,” he wrote.

    Romney, Rubio?

  17. Trump says:

    It’s been two days since Howard and Baxter were killed.

    Any word from Romney? Rubio?

  18. Bitterlaw says:

    Try it again, Guru. I said Trump should condemn violence immediately, you don’t know what that means.

    Your act is tired. I’m not the only one bored by it.

  19. Trump says:

    True colors shining through.

  20. Trump says:

    I am not tired, as&hole.

    That’s all that matters.

    Your true colors shine through.

  21. Trump says:

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

  22. Trump says:

    Both are your words, creep.

  23. wvally says:

    As said last thread, “step 2” was going to happen either way, and that was Bitter’s point.

    Having all the business commissions shut down, the donors pulling out from the charity galas at Mara Lago, and the MSM getting to call Trump a Nazi, is not a good outcome.

    This whole thing looks like a set up, tbh. Not necessarily the idiot w the car, but the whole clash environment. Some of the “Nazis” have been seen in pics w antifa at other events.

    Team trump could have recognized the danger and handled the response more carefully and strategically. It’s called MITIGATION. Which our resident lawyer understands.

  24. Trump says:

    The resident lawyer is a creepy as*hole who has been massively damaged in his psyche by Trump victory.

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    This is what he is.

  25. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    18. Here are Rubio’s comments about the police shootings. They are easy to find, you should have looked.

    “U.S. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio stated that there needs to be focus on people targeting police officers across the country.

    Marco Rubio ? @marcorubio
    6 Police Officers Shot In Separate Incidents last night.4 of them in #Florida with 1 dead after apparent ambush https://n.pr/2uR3ayq

    Marco Rubio ? @marcorubio
    We ask for prayers for them. We need more focus on targeting of officers across the country.They protect us, we need to protect them”

  26. wvally says:

    Psychologically damaged by Trump victory? Please. He voted for him, and has expressed gratitude plenty of times for what we’ve gained.

    You’re calling him a creep bc he’s been expressing disgust w you, and said he feels sorry for your family. And that’s because you’ve been non stop ranting about cretins, idiots, and sucking off Jeb for like 6 months. And you do it spam-style. It is so g*d d*mn grating.

    Just make your d*mn points.

  27. Tina says:

    I was surprised by rubios commments last week, nut nit surprised at the ines about the dead cops.

  28. Trump says:

    so dont read, idiot.

    Didn’t I tell you that before.

    Is anyone forcing you to?

  29. wvally says:

    Why can’t you just be cool? Take a chill pill and hang out. Be funny instead of a jerk.

  30. CashCow TM says:

    Have had a Grand Time at the Grand Canyon.
    Tomorrow will be at Lake Powell.

    Sorry HHR is still mired in harsh controversy.

    We have eclipse glasses Mrs. Walt bought prior to the trip. Not sure what the conditions will be like to see the eclipse. Here in AZ it will be about a 70% eclipse. Not sure how clear or cloudy it will be.

    <y big concern is that it does not cause the cattle to stampede.

  31. Phil says:

    I thought Romney would make an above average president.

    Right now I just want him to shut his pie hole.

  32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is Rubio’s twitter account link, the top items are his comments about the safety of police.

    https://twitter.com/marcorubio

  33. Trump says:

    All a matter of perspective, idiot.

    Ignore is a good advice.

  34. Tina says:

    I am glad auittens did not get the sos positin, guy was begging for a jib by many accts.

  35. Trump says:

    Just as I ignore you.

  36. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    31. Sounds like your having a great trip Cow. How big are the crowds? Know this is tourist season.

    Hope your possibly hitting Archs NP and Canyonsland NP.

  37. CashCow TM says:

    We have run into lots of foreigners here.

    There are Asian looking people who I assume are all Chinese or Japanese.

    Then there are those who el speako Espaniola so they are all from either Mexico or the U.S.

    Then lots of others who speak a foreign tongue. A few of theses are from India or Pakistan. A few let slip a “see voo play” so they are the surrendering French.

    All the rest I refer to as Russians.
    There are a LOT of Russians here…
    I am beginning to think they did actually alter the election results.

  38. Bitterlaw says:

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Trump is dense. When the white racists kill somebody, condemn the white racists. When the leftists kill or injure somebody (as I predicted they would) condemn them immediately. If President Trump had done that, the last week’s spin that he was a racist would not have happened or, if it did, be credible without anybody but the people who would never vote for him anyway.

    You are just a liar. You could not be this stupid and make it through life.

  39. Tina says:

    Is cow coming to ca?

  40. Trump says:

    Jesus and Mary

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    33 is just more proof that Poster Trump is a liar. He just makes things up.

  42. Trump says:

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  43. Trump says:

    I am on the west coast. I can go all night.

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  44. Trump says:

    I’ll let Mr Bitterlaw decide if it is time to commence Step 2 of his 2-step approach.

    Or do we need a few more policemen need to be killed before commencing Step 2?

    “Bitterlaw: “I liked Romney’s statement. I said last weekend that Trump should have taken a 2 step approach. Step 1 – Blast the white supremacist and do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Just to reiterate:

    “The other night a man named Everett Glenn Miller ambushed a murdered two Kissimmee police officers. What hasn’t been reported much? Miller used the same logic that Antifa does to justify his murders,” according to a reporter with the Orlando CBS affiliate WKMG-TV:

    The agency has not disclosed why the former Marine was involuntarily committed to a mental health facility under Florida’s Baker Act, nor is it known whether Miller received any treatment.

    Miller unofficially changed his name to Malik Mohammad Ali, acquaintances confirmed, although Miller wrote on his Facebook page that he is not Muslim and does identify with any other religion.

    In the days prior to the shooting, Miller posted several articles on Facebook related to the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    On the morning the police officers were killed, Miller posted a meme of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that included the caption, “When I said march I didn’t mean forever (expletive). Shoot back.”

    “You can only poke a tie (sic) up dog so long,” Miller wrote above the photo. “Once that chain breaks it’s over. Wake up America before it’s too late.”

    Later that day, just hours before Miller would be accused of murdering two police officers, he posted an article on Facebook suggesting white supremacists had infiltrated police departments.

    “F— you, rich bastards,” Miller wrote above photos of police officers allegedly wearing KKK hoods.”

  45. janz says:

    IMO Trump’s sin was that he didn’t follow the PC narative our socially conscious culture demands. Yes, to avoid rebukes from the MSM, his elite GOP peers, hostile Dems he should have followed the recipe laid out by politicos – condemning the ugly speech, optics, and mayham resulting in a death of one and injuries of others in Charlottesville.

    But, Trump, instead chose to point out the omelette of deliberately orchestrated bad behavior by a mob – some which were bused in specifically to incite violence. Basically, he used a broad brush to condemn all the variables contributing to an out of control event, resulting in so much unnecessary grief and tragedy.

    Now, Trump can conveniently be nailed as a racist. Soros/Dem/MSM/Trump hater’s mission accomplished. Next comes the moral erasing of our American history, stigmatising those who disagree with the hysteria of the moment, and validating the censorship of speech.

  46. Trump says:

    Yup, Trump’s fault that he spoke the truth.

  47. Bitterlaw says:

    “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    That was in the immediate aftermath of Charlottesville when the people you make excuses for had killed somebody. The leftists had not killed anybody on that day. You will continue to lie and apologize for the white racists.

    I would put it to HHR to see if the rational people understood my point about a tactical approach but I already know the results. Jonesy and NYC would disagree with me if I said the sun rises in the East just to support you. Phil, WV, and SDC can read and understand what I said. Walt would make a cool bunch of words out of “immediately condemn”, and Tina would post something that looks like the letters left over at the end of a game of Scrabble. lisab would just flip a coin to decide who to F with over some minute point.

  48. Trump says:

    Again,

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    38. Always been a lot of foreigners at the national parks in summer. Decades ago spent a lot of time in Moab, Utah (before it became a tourist trap), you went into a restaurant and most people were not speaking English — instead it was French, Italian, Japanese, German, etc. Those who work their get used to it.

    I was once with a group of Japanese tourists, a lot of them were high school kids. A guy came by riding a horse — the group all began to applaud; they saw their first cowboy.

  50. Bitterlaw says:

    I’ll let Mr Bitterlaw decide if it is time to commence Step 2 of his 2-step approach.

    Look up the word “immediately,” liar.

  51. Trump says:

    Both are simple, plain English.

  52. CashCow TM says:

    Other spots we will hit are Monument Valley, Lake Powell, Bryce and Zion.

    Have been to Arches, Canyonlands and Capitol Reef before and liked them–but they were not included in this tour.

    We end up in Las Vegas
    (which is Spanish for “the V gas”).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Crowds are tolerable–I have seen lots worse.
    People are nice.
    Walt confided in me that lots of the young and middle aged women are hot looking (but he says that wherever we go).

    But the Asians are pushy and want to break/ignore lines.

    And a significant # of the Russians (men and women) have (Cow eye rolling and SMH) tattoos with no overall theme and are loud talkers.

    Lots of places in U.S. kids are now back in school, so that keeps the # of American families down for this week. They say Labor Day week will be a spike in tourist numbers.

  53. Trump says:

    “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Means

    Immediately.

    Not at all = Immediately

  54. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    51. Lets move on to Step Three, and call a time out. All sides should go home and learn to polka.

  55. Trump says:

    And,

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  56. Trump says:

    As*hole, show me one place where I have apologized for the racists.

    Meanwhile,

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  57. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC – Trump is an idiot. I know that you are not. Did you understand what I posted?

  58. Trump says:

    Just to reiterate, here are the ones which the creep as*hole
    will not “mention the violent leftists at all.”

    “The other night a man named Everett Glenn Miller ambushed a murdered two Kissimmee police officers. What hasn’t been reported much? Miller used the same logic that Antifa does to justify his murders,” according to a reporter with the Orlando CBS affiliate WKMG-TV:

    The agency has not disclosed why the former Marine was involuntarily committed to a mental health facility under Florida’s Baker Act, nor is it known whether Miller received any treatment.

    Miller unofficially changed his name to Malik Mohammad Ali, acquaintances confirmed, although Miller wrote on his Facebook page that he is not Muslim and does identify with any other religion.

    In the days prior to the shooting, Miller posted several articles on Facebook related to the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    On the morning the police officers were killed, Miller posted a meme of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that included the caption, “When I said march I didn’t mean forever (expletive). Shoot back.”

    “You can only poke a tie (sic) up dog so long,” Miller wrote above the photo. “Once that chain breaks it’s over. Wake up America before it’s too late.”

    Later that day, just hours before Miller would be accused of murdering two police officers, he posted an article on Facebook suggesting white supremacists had infiltrated police departments.

    “F— you, rich bastards,” Miller wrote above photos of police officers allegedly wearing KKK hoods.”

  59. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I will be in Zions NP in September. A friend and I are going up Angel’s Landing. It scary as heck, and I hate heights, but promised to do it.

    Zions is so packed this time of year you will need to use a shuttle to get into the canyon. They ban cars, which has turned out well.

    There are a lot of Russians involved with energy exploration in the West, know a lot of them, actually very nice people (fun to sit down with and down a few beers). Assume they are getting their money out of Russia and investing in the U.S.

  60. CashCow TM says:

    Tina,

    Cow is not coming to COW-lie-forn-eye-a this trip.
    End in Las Vegas and then fly back east.

    Walt has been to CA 5 times…
    Last time was with Mrs. Walt on a sorta spur of the moment trip to San Fran. for a long weekend. They were disappointed that they were not able to visit Alcatraz. Walt did not know you had to get tickets many months in advance…

    Walt says if he does get to SF, he will arrange a dinner meeting…

  61. Bitterlaw says:

    do not mention the violent leftists at all IMMEDIATELY AFTER CHAROTTESVILLE WHEN POSTER TRUMP’S FRIENDS KILLED SOMEBODY BUT ANTIFA DID NOT.

    There. I added the words that only idiot Trump needed in order to understand what was clear to everybody else.

  62. Trump says:

    Hide the violent leftists.

    Creep.

  63. Trump says:

    Hide the cop-killing BLM leftists that the creep as*hole supports, in his blind hatred of Trump.

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  64. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    60. Here is a video of what hiking in Angel’s Landing in Zions National Park is like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpmuakyEWpo

    There are all sorts of great hiking areas in Zions NP, is one of my favorites. Not having cars really reduces the congestion.

  65. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru will continue to lit so here is the entire post. Apparently, Trump Guru is the only one who can’t understand what wrote:

    Bitterlaw says:

    August 18, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    I liked Romney’s statement. I said last weekend that Trump should have taken a 2 step approach. Step 1 – Blast the white supremacist and do not mention the violent leftists at all. This takes away a week of stories about what he said.

    Step 2 – wait for the inevitable Antifa riot. Blast the leftists and do not mention the violent white supremacists. This takes away the argument that he was only looking to excuse the racists. It supports the idea that Trump condemns specific violence by different groups.

  66. Trump says:

    Is it time for step 2 in your “tactical” approach? Was Trump much more of a visionary of the future when he condemned “many sides”?

    “The other night a man named Everett Glenn Miller ambushed a murdered two Kissimmee police officers. What hasn’t been reported much? Miller used the same logic that Antifa does to justify his murders,” according to a reporter with the Orlando CBS affiliate WKMG-TV:

    The agency has not disclosed why the former Marine was involuntarily committed to a mental health facility under Florida’s Baker Act, nor is it known whether Miller received any treatment.

    Miller unofficially changed his name to Malik Mohammad Ali, acquaintances confirmed, although Miller wrote on his Facebook page that he is not Muslim and does identify with any other religion.

    In the days prior to the shooting, Miller posted several articles on Facebook related to the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    On the morning the police officers were killed, Miller posted a meme of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that included the caption, “When I said march I didn’t mean forever (expletive). Shoot back.”

    “You can only poke a tie (sic) up dog so long,” Miller wrote above the photo. “Once that chain breaks it’s over. Wake up America before it’s too late.”

    Later that day, just hours before Miller would be accused of murdering two police officers, he posted an article on Facebook suggesting white supremacists had infiltrated police departments.

    “F— you, rich bastards,” Miller wrote above photos of police officers allegedly wearing KKK hoods.”

  67. Trump says:

    Your words:

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

    The two faces of the lying as*hole.

    Both are your words, creep.

  68. janz says:

    Sounds like your travels will be taking you to many scenic areas, SDC. I remember going to all these areas and other state parks during my childhood. Life was so different – no need for reservations etc. Enjoy yourself!

  69. Trump says:

    So, back to the simple question:

    Is it time for step 2 in your “tactical” approach?

  70. janz says:

    Bitter, your step 1 & 2 may have been the more appropriate presidential approach. However, do you really believe that the words and tact Trump did use merits the landslide of revulsion he’s received?

  71. Trump says:

    Is it ok now for Trump to condemn “violent leftists”, after two cops have been killed?

  72. Trump says:

    It’s not a trick question.

  73. Trump says:

    Just trying to lay a marker. What would trigger Step 2?

  74. Bitterlaw says:

    Since Trump does not understand the word immediately, I will lower myself to his stupidity. Step 2 should have been immediate. That means right after it happened. So, moron, we would be well into Step 2.

    Janz – I do not think that President Trump deserved the criticism that he received but he could have avoided most of it.

    Maybe Wes can explain what I posted to Trump Guru. Wes doesn’t like me and takes every chance he can get to poke me in the eye but at least I know he can read.

  75. Trump says:

    Or is it too early to trigger Step 2? More violence? More cops killed?

  76. CashCow TM says:

    Limited internet access means I am not tuned into world and national events except in brief snippets.

    In the “its a small world” category…one of the police officers killed in Kissimmee, FL was a graduate of Jefferson High School in Jefferson county WV in 2009(?)–neighboring county to where Walt lives.

    Sad.
    He was not a native WV-ian. Had moved to WV from Baltimore area. apparently a likeable kid, wanted to help others, etc. according to Hagerstown (MD) Herald Mail newspaper article.

  77. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if Trump Guru reaches out to check on people who have family in law enforcement when a police officer is killed like I do. Probably not.

  78. Bitterlaw says:

    Even when I have answered his question repeatedly, Trump pretends that I did not.

  79. janz says:

    #75. Bitter, agree with your 2nd paragraph.

  80. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m out. Trump Guru can post several dozen lies about me now. Everybody else knows he is a joke so I will sleep fine.

  81. Trump says:

    “Step 2 should have been immediate”

    Does not compute with

    “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.” and “Step 2 – wait for the inevitable Antifa riot.”

    No wonder you are a bitter lawyer. English, logic are not something you are familiar with.

  82. wvally says:

    do you really believe that the words and tact Trump did use merits the landslide of revulsion he’s received

    ***

    I don’t. But saying this could have been handled better strategically is not not something worthy of non-stop haranguing. It’s a valid point.

    But we can’t have a discussion without the threat of poster Trump freaking out on on someone, latching on, and going berserk for days and weeks on end.

  83. Trump says:

    Wrapping yourself in others’s service.

    Last refuge of a creepy as*hole.

  84. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    69. “I remember going to all these areas and other state parks during my childhood. Life was so different – no need for reservations etc. Enjoy yourself!”

    Janz, I remember those days too! And it was so uncrowded. In off-season you could often hike up to Delicate Arch and not see another person. Plus the towns were basically easy-going truck stops.

    Now notice if you get off the beaten trail; after about 500 feet there are very few people on the less popular trails — even in the summer months. People like to congregate together at the bases of trails and campgrounds.

  85. Trump says:

    “But we can’t have a discussion…”

    You can’t have a discussion because you have to protect each other’s fragile egos and comfortable delusions.

  86. Trump says:

    “…can post several dozen lies about me now.”

    I post his words, and he thinks they are lies.

    I agree.

    Then: “…do not mention the violent leftists at all.”

    Now: “I said Trump should condemn violence immediately”

  87. janz says:

    Sharyl Attkisson has a good opinion piece posted, on Real Clear Politics site, which holds the press’s feet to the fire in distorting news and adding to the disruption going on in America today. Some news they ignore – cop killings, Awan IT story, Antifa violence, IRS targeting, the Tarmac fiasco, and many more. Other stories they magnify – Russian collusion, anything to do with racial tension, abortion, class and gender disparities. She feels that the State of journalism is in great disrepair, more aimed at propaganda promotion than facturally sourced information.

  88. Trump says:

    As a wise sage always says, consider the MSM as democratic operatives with bylines, and it all makes sense.

  89. Trump says:

    Is it any wonder that Robbie constantly advocates Trump getting off Twitter?

  90. Trump says:

    Nothing against Sharyl Attkisson, I like her articles.

    But all she is saying is that water is wet.

    The MSM has always been this way. What has changed is that there are now sources of information that are independent of the MSM.

    With the internet, it becomes harder to hide the lies. As the saying goes, anyone can fact-check your as@.

  91. Trump says:

    As another wise sage says, the media is there to cover a story.

    With a pillow, until it stops moving.

  92. lisab says:

    your step 1 & 2 may have been the more appropriate presidential approach.
    ——————————

    actually it is the LESS presidential approach. in the past presidents have condemned violence without singling out one side

    it would however been politically correct

  93. lisab says:

    In the “its a small world” category…one of the police officers killed in Kissimmee, FL was a graduate of Jefferson High School in Jefferson county WV
    —————————

    so what non-racist name will you change the county to?

  94. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab never fails to take a shot at me or what I post.

  95. NYCmike says:

    Good morning. I understood what Bitterlaw meant.

    But, since “Trump” is pasting-and-clipping his words, I don’t know how to disagree with him.

    Maybe, the President should have been supported, instead of judged by his odd way of speaking.

    We all make choices in life.

  96. lisab says:

    Lisab never fails to take a shot at me or what I post.
    ————————-

    unfortunately people have different opinions

    and

    in this case, the more presidential thing to do is in fact to condemn all the violence and not play politics.

    he could have worded it better, such as, “as americans we condemn political violence on all sides whether it is a terrorist with a car like in charlottesville or one with a gun on a baseball field …” (referring to scalise)

    and then say

    “we further reject the message of white supremists and nazis whose empty rhetoric is already on the ash pit of history …” or some such thing

    but it was certainly proper for a president to reject violence on all sides

  97. lisab says:

    political correctness works both ways, y’all cannot go around calling white people crackers

    the correct term is saltine american

  98. lisab says:

    The city of Alexandria VA is taking submissions to rename Jefferson Davis Highway.

    trump, pence and seth rich are the top suggestions

  99. NYCmike says:

    That said earlier, “Trump” is only acting like this due to the anonymous nature of the internet blog forum.

    I seriously doubt he would engage in such a way on a personal basis in real life.

  100. NYCmike says:

    http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/08/21/did_china_hack_the_seventh_fleet_112102.html

    -We may need Walt to show the navy how to sail clipper ships again.

  101. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – How about Treason Highway?

    Good morning, Wes.

  102. NYCmike says:

    Treason Highway would fit.

  103. NYCmike says:

    “saltine american” was funny.

  104. JC says:

    Trump Exploits Gap Between Elite and Public Opinion: https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/656915?unlock=GZTW3EZ94OLSYW8J

    The reaction after President Trump’s tepid response to the neo-Nazi march in Charlottesville was swift and severe. One broadcast network devoted its entire nightly newscast to Trump’s chaotic press conference on Tuesday. The next day, The Economist portrayed the president screaming into a bullhorn shaped as a Ku Klux Klan hood on its cover—with other news magazines following suit. Many Republican officials have denounced the president in the sharpest terms since his election. Business leaders resigned from the president’s corporate councils in protest.

    But in a repeat of myriad Trump campaign controversies, voters didn’t share the same level of outrage as the elites. The latest wave of polling shows that the president’s overall job-approval rating has inched upwards since the controversy, that a sizable majority of Americans support maintaining Confederate memorials instead of tearing them down, and that a notable minority agree with the president’s use of “both sides” language during Tuesday’s press conference.

    The polling is simply the latest illustration of the gaping divide between elite opinion and the views of average Americans. It’s clear many voters don’t share the same sense of alarm about Trump as political leaders and journalists. Judging by the news coverage, you’d reasonably expect the president to have alienated the entire country with his insensitive, racially charged rhetoric. In reality, public opinion is splitting along predictable partisan lines—with Trump’s view that Confederate monuments should be preserved getting a surprising degree of bipartisan support.

    Former Democratic Rep. Steve Israel put it best, writing in Newsday this week about a recent conversation he overheard at a Long Island diner. “Now they’re making a big deal about statues? Who cares about statues!” Israel recounted hearing. It’s why top Democratic strategists have urged their candidates not to talk to voters about impeachment or dwell on the hot-button issues driving media coverage.

    The most surprising finding from the latest polling is how many Americans agree with Trump on the issue of Confederate statues.
    ————————

    As I said before, this whole ridiculous hysteria is the result of a failing aristocracy that knows it is losing it’s grip on power, and is lashing out in desperation.

  105. JC says:

    I identify as half-saltine.

  106. NYCmike says:

    And half Ritz?

  107. NYCmike says:

    I’ll never understand why they had the ingredients to make a salad under their seats! 🙂

  108. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/corporate-americas-exodus-from-trump-may-have-just-begun/article/2631819

    -Trump should concentrate on small businesses, and starve K-Street.

    Personally believe he should leave Wall Street alone, as they know how to fight dirty. K Street probably does as well, but they have to keep a certain image, while Wall St is ONLY concerned with the bottom line, like Trump, so they know how to deal with him.

  109. Trump says:

    Trump will be going full populist trust-buster by 2020.

  110. NYCmike says:

    What was the body count in Chicago this past weekend?

  111. Trump says:

    Since you ask:

    “At least 33 people were wounded, 6 fatally, within 13 hours from Saturday to Sunday across the city in separate shootings” – Chicago Tribune

  112. wvally says:

    In the “its a small world” category…one of the police officers killed in Kissimmee, FL was a graduate of Jefferson High School in Jefferson county WV in 2009(?)–neighboring county to where Walt lives.

    ***

    Oh no this is so sad. I had not seen that news. I was a teacher at Jefferson when Matt attended. I didn’t teach him but knew of him through football.

    RIP Matt.

  113. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Please submit the next “worry theme” by 10AM.

  114. Phil says:

    Come on. 33 shot in 12 hours?

    We don’t care about trivial stuff like that. What about the NAZIs and the KKK? Try to focus on what Romney tells us is truly important.

    BTW, I wonder how many of those 33 were shot by statues?

  115. NYCmike says:

    wvally,

    Sorry for such a close hit.

    My wife and I were speaking over the weekend about the Barcelona events. She has a friend in Madrid who would visit Barcelona regularly with her husband. My wife had seen pictures of her friend in some of the places mentioned on the news.

    It put the hysteria over Trump’s tweets into perspective.

  116. Trump says:

    First it was the Russians.

    Now it is the Nazis.

    Next, it will be the Japanese?

    Japanese elected Trump.

  117. NYCmike says:

    I am “shocked” that Rudy’s methods of transforming a large, crime-ridden city into a thriving, safe city has not been adopted in other places around the states.

  118. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Rudy’s system was successful because it was tried before everybody was offended by everything. Today, it would be condemned as racism.

  119. Jonesy says:

    People of Chicago must be immune at this point, to the violence.

  120. Jonesy says:

    Social Media has changed everything in politics and Governance. It determines what the majority should think, if you go against it, you are vilified

  121. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Actually, he was condemned as racist back then as well.

    Thankfully, for 20 years, enough voters believed he, and Bloomberg by default, was racist BUT EFFECTIVE.

    He fought the NY TIMES on a daily basis, NEVER giving an inch.

  122. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Also remember, another New Yorker, Pat Moynihan, a Democrat, was labeled a racist back in the 1960’s for daring to publicize the % of out-of-wedlock-births among black mothers.

    They use the same methods over and over and over…….too bad people like Robbie keep falling for it over and over and over….

  123. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/20/ever-burgeoning-house-democrat-scandal/

    -Imagine if this was a Republican scandal…..would statues be in the news?

  124. Phil says:

    I am the only one here who has called for getting rid of the USC racist horse. An all white horse with the same name as Robert E Lee’s horse and I can’t get a single one of you to stand with me.

    What’s a matter with you people? This horse is just another symbol of white hate against minorities. Do the right thing and stand with me. What would Romney say?

  125. Jonesy says:

    Cannot Wasserman Schultz has not resigned yet.

    sessions needs to set up a grand jury. she was the DNC chair

  126. Jonesy says:

    Phil, what about the Chicago White Sox?

  127. Phil says:

    That’s the spirit, Jonesy. Let’s all work together to stamp out white racism!

  128. Phil says:

    Pretty sad, Mike. The double standard is something we’ve fought for years, but it is just mind blowing the way it is today.

  129. Wes says:

    Brian Aldiss, author of Frankenstein Unbound, the Helliconia Trilogy, and the story that inspired Stephen Spielberg’s AI, has passed.

    RIP, Brian.

  130. NYCmike says:

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_REFUGEES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-08-21-06-26-22

    -With all due respect, Pope Francis, when the Vatican tears down the walls around itself and houses refugees, then I would consider telling our government to do the same.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I thought that AI was an interesting movie but it was too long. No. I did not read the book. Did you see the movie and, if so, what did you think?

  132. Cash Cow TM says:

    Painted desert.

  133. Wes says:

    I saw the movie. I too thought it was too long. I also thought it was too saccharine and overly sentimental and felt likean SF movie by way of Lifetime: Television for Women.

    Stanley Kubrick began working on the movie first but died early during principal photography only to have Stephen Spielberg take over.

  134. Cash Cow TM says:

    Police in Spain kill last terrorist bastard wanted in most recent attacts.

  135. lisab says:

    “too bad people like Robbie keep falling for it over and over and over….”

    he is not falling for it

    he is pushing for it

  136. Cash Cow TM says:

    ECLIPSE, BABY..WAS NEAT
    About 80% or more coverage n NE AZ.

  137. Cash Cow TM says:

    Monument valley ahead….

  138. NYCmike says:

    Ca$h,

    Did it already occur?

  139. Cash Cow TM says:

    I hear isis is going to raise money by seling
    calendars featuring the women isis.

  140. NYCmike says:

    Stories of cows in field laying down as if ready for bed……except one traveling through Grand Canyon??

  141. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    144. Cow. Will give you an early: Welcome to Utah! Since going to cross the border today.

  142. Bitterlaw says:

    I told those white supremacists not to look at the sun during the eclipse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZpsbGr7s8

  143. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    141. Google and the other High Tech barons need to pay their fair share of taxes. They have hundreds of billions sheltered overseas in tax havens, and use their political connections to avoid having to pay much in the way of taxes.

    Obama was Google’s pet poodle.

    https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close-relationship-with-the-obama-white-house-in-two-charts/

    The Tech barons made sure the Paris Treaty exempted China and India from compliance, because it is where they do their manufacturing and did so paying what amounts to coolie wages.

    They masquerade as progressives and climate activists, but behind the scene make sure their special world is protected.

  144. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    149. You might consider a chat with those trying to tear down the statues of Christopher Columbus too. There are crazies on both sides.

  145. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC – Those activists sleep during the day. They riot at night.

  146. Sun Supremacists says:

    Moons Will Not Replace Us!

  147. The Moon says:

    Did you see the crowds? Nobody gets that excited over a sunrise. Your reign is coming to an end.

  148. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Cows in the fields lay down as eclipse looms over Oregon”

    Ah oh. Cash Cow may have been left behind.

  149. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4810532/President-Trump-looks-sun-without-glasses-eclipse.html

    MSNBC will now run non-stop for a week about Trump looking at the sun.

  150. Brandon says:

    Watching the Little League World Series and all I can think about is aluminum bats and Gary Maxwell.

  151. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Britain has decided to ban automobiles running on gasoline/diesel. This leaves battery operated cars, which have a few quirks:

    “Electric car owners have been warned that if they attempt to boil a kettle while charging their car it will blow the fuse.
    The National Grid expressed concerns that an average size 3.5kW battery charger would take 19 hours to fully charge a car battery, even when it is 25 per cent full.
    A “thought piece” document obtained by the Financial Times warned that a more powerful 11kW device would still take six hours to charge a car battery and during that time, the use of everyday items such as kettles and ovens would blow the fuse.
    “The average household is supplied with single phase electricity and is fitted with a main fuse of 60-80 amps,” the National Grid said.
    “If one were to use an above average power charger, say 11kW, this would require 48 amps. When using such a charger it would mean that you could not use other high demand electrical items… ?without tripping the house’s main fuse.””

    This lunacy is coming from a government that claims to be “conservative.”

  152. Wes says:

    Last time a Roy Moore clone sought a nonjudicial office in Alabama was when Fob James ran for reelection as Hovrnor in 1998. James lost by 15 points.

    Honestly I don’t expect Moore to lose, but he’s the only Republican Dems can actually beat for this seat. I hope Strange can win the runoff.

  153. Wes says:

    Governor*

  154. Trump says:

    “BLM member tells Antifa to take their masks off and get out of his city. They punch him and accuse him of being a cop.” From the Dallas get-together on the weekend.

    Meanwhile, our intrepid leaders:

    Mitt Romney
    Verified account @MittRomney
    No, not the same. One side is racist, bigoted, Nazi. The other opposes racism and bigotry. Morally different universes.
    5:14 PM – 15 Aug 2017

    McCain: Trump needs to state difference between bigots and those fighting hate

  155. NYCmike says:

    President Trump got it right in first press conference.

    Romney and McCain show why they lost their respective elections.

  156. NYCmike says:

    Someone just deleted a comment from “Trump”.

    #160 was originally a “Trump” comment, and then when I hit “Submit Comment”, the comment I made my comment about was gone. I should have copied and pasted.

    WISSING, NOT COOL!

  157. NYCmike says:

    Out of all of the comments to delete, that was NOT one I would have chosen.

  158. NYCmike says:

    “This lunacy is coming from a government that claims to be “conservative.””

    -Is Theresa May still Prime Minister?

    She should be replaced.

  159. NYCmike says:

    Ok, original comment #160 is now back.

    That was odd!

  160. Bitterlaw says:

    From the very beginning, the Wizard had the authority to delete comments. He used to do it in the past. his blog. His rules.

  161. Bitterlaw says:

    The Wizard also used to ban very select people. That is why I P 7 2 7 is still blocked when typed without spaces.

  162. Wes says:

    Don’t forget D ondero, Bitter. Wissing blocked him too.

  163. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Bunu was banned for awhile but his I P switching technology finally wore the Wizard down. I don’t know if Eph was banned or just gave up. I think he occasionally sneaks back.

  164. Trump says:

    An update on Chicago, since someone asked:

    “9 dead, 54 wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago” – ABC7

  165. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicago used to be a happy place.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT-x77t89iY

  166. JC says:

    Mitt Romney
    Verified account @MittRomney
    No, not the same. One side is racist, bigoted, Nazi. The other opposes racism and bigotry. Morally different universes.
    5:14 PM – 15 Aug 2017

    ————————-

    Don’t worry guys. Antifa may look and operate like well-funded brownshirts, but they are actually warriors of love fighting against hate. Just ask the former presidential nominee from ‘our’ side.

    I bet Romney’s tune would be very different if one of his sons was the one beaten in the head with a bike lock by this very same group of rent-a-mobs.

    The republican establishment is a swamp of ignorant losers who have been trained to capitulate to the msm narrative. I used to believe that the party leadership was actively sabotaging Trump with the intent of maintaining its failing power structure. Now I disagree. I think these guys are genuinely ignorant of the truth. They view the world through the msm/political-class filter and genuinely believe the msm narrative. They genuinely believe that the msm is representative of the nation as a whole and not just the propaganda arm of the DNC.

    I have longed believed that the media’s power resides not in manipulating public opinion, but in manipulating Republican politicians.

    The Republican establishment is probably not even aware of antifa’s existance – an organization that has been beating up their own supporters indiscriminately with the aid of media silence.

    And these fools wonder why the base flocked to Trump, a guy who actually fights for and defends his supporters, instead of throwing them under the bus.

    The Romneys, McCains, and Rubios are a rotting disease to the Republican party and to the country as a whole. We cannot win as long as we have these infections weakening us from the inside. They must be purged from the party.

  167. NYCmike says:

    “They must be purged from the party.”

    -Not purged, just made into voters, not representatives.

  168. Bitterlaw says:

    They must be purged from the party.

    Interesting. I did not know that JC was on the membership committee. Here’s the problem. The alleged and never defined Establishment does not have enough members to defeat the Democrats. The Trump supporters do not have the numbers to support the Democrats. Also, many of the Trump supporters believe in Trump but do not have a core of beliefs. “Purging the party” just guarantees rule by the Democrats. We need a common strategy rather than 2 permanent minority parties losing to Democrats.

  169. NYCmike says:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-20/democrats-need-a-message-not-a-program

    “Only four years later, Ronald Reagan was president. The Gipper’s winning agenda in 1980 really was indistinguishable from Barry Goldwater’s losing one 16 years earlier, except for the addition of a supply-side economics theory that didn’t deliver on its promise of unprecedented economic growth and skyrocketing government revenue after cutting taxes.”

    -Are these people for real?

    There was unprecedented economic growth, and government revenue.

    Unfortunately, there was also unprecedented government SPENDING, which is the whole problem!

  170. Bitterlaw says:

    Support the Democrats should be “Defeat the Democrats.” in regard to Trump supporters.

  171. Tina says:

    quittens is dine with. Actually, he is burnt chicken.

  172. JC says:

    The WH petition to label antifa a terrorist group is now at 200,000.

    Eh, I know these ‘petitions’ are useless, but I signed it anyways, in the hopes that it will get greater exposure on alt-left violence.

  173. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Republicans on the offensive in California:

    “I wanted to immediately email you to make sure you heard the great news that we received late Friday: our Recall Petition in our campaign against the gas tax officially qualified!

    This means that Senator Josh Newman, who has the deciding vote in approving the car and gas tax hikes, will face a special election for his immediate removal from office in either November or December. Once he is removed from office, the Democrats will lose their two-thirds Super-Majority control of California’s legislature and no more tax hikes can be approved by them! . . . we collected nearly 100,000 signatures in just 6 weeks to qualify the Recall! Our success comes despite the dirty tactics employed by Sacramento politicians: they hired bullies to harass our signature gatherers and when that didn’t work they passed a law to strip us of our Recall rights as citizens. We sued and that law was overturned as unconstitutional by a court last week.

    Put simply, we overcame adversity and powerful interests by working TOGETHER and fighting back!”

  174. Tina says:

    I wont leak to the muh russian story in the daily caller. Probe appears to be focusing on a russian ties to a drat group.

  175. Phil says:

    So how’s the ballot petition for California secession coming along?

  176. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    185. “So how’s the ballot petition for California secession coming along?”

    http://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2017/08/19/another-calexit-initiative-filed-sacramento/579057001/

    To qualify an initiative for the ballot in California takes a huge amount of money, primarily for paid signature gatherers. Don’t believe any of the secession petitions have the cash needed.

  177. Phil says:

    Where do I send my donation?

    Best that California secedes and becomes it’s own Marxist nation. Everyone wins. The eight million whacko lefty voters get to obtain their dream of becoming Venezuela. The rest of us get to be rid of two nutty senators, a huge delegation of whacko House members, and 55 electoral votes every four years.

    Come on California. Go for it!

  178. Tina says:

    So, phil, muh russian is now looking at fusion.

    Do nit tell anybody, but some campaign paid a foreigner miney for dirt in trump, using russian sources.

  179. Phil says:

    Well, Tina. That means we’ve seen the last of the MSM coverage of Russia.

  180. Tina says:

    Yup, dyung out. It is niw muh racist or muh kkk.

  181. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    187. Won’t happen Phil.

    The Democrats don’t want to lose California’s Democratic votes. Keep in mind that Trump won the total popular vote in the total from the other 49 states;

    The Tech & Hollywood barons, who fund the Democrats, know that when California spends its way into insolvency, the dependent masses will turn on them, and they will meet California’s version of Robespierre.

  182. Phil says:

    I know, San Diego. Yeah, Trump won the popular vote almost two million votes minus California…..and you are absolutely right – no way Democrats are going to risk losing their political bell cow in the California congressional delegation and electoral college base. And, yes, you make a great point about what happens when the state goes bankrupt and the dependents have their gravy train cut off. It would be ugly and the Hollywood left knows it.

    That doesn’t even touch on the legal barriers of it happening.

    No. Never going to happen.

  183. Cash Cow TM says:

    Heading to Page, AZ.

  184. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    193. If it ever appears likely, then a huge area in eastern California will want out, they are already pushing separation under the name “Jefferson.” They would control the food and water for coastal California — they might try the King Faisal approach in their trade dealings with the leftists on the coast.

    By the way, who would get to vote in the independent People’s Republic of California? Assume anyone in the state, no matter how long. So people in third world countries could move to California at will, and get free medical care, welfare, etc. The Venezuela of the north.

    Would be interesting to watch the video footage of Silicon Valley and Beverly Hills being looted by the deprived masses.

  185. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Its about time you got out of Arizona.

    Your going to go through Big Water, Utah. It was founded by a polygamous guy named Alex Joseph, who in a past life was a private detective in Las Vegas. He died and his wives now run the place, last I heard. It was also the first town in Utah that had a gay mayor.

  186. Tina says:

    Cow is not heading to ca. I had some organic grass ready.

  187. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    194. Assume Cow will be heading through Utah on Route 89, and then take Route 9 into Zions NP. You go through a really great tunnel over a mile long. Then down into the canyon along some major switchbacks.

  188. NYCmike says:

    Holy

  189. NYCmike says:

    CC

  190. Cash Cow TM says:

    Lake Powell Resort.

    Nice digs for a cow.

  191. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    201. Life is good.

  192. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. Tina is not going to like the anti-Pakistan talk. Seems a little too forceful but he is right.

  193. Bitterlaw says:

    I meant too forceful for Tina.

  194. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought it was a good speech. I’m sure that shocks some of you.

  195. Tina says:

    So, hiw many years in afghanistan, bl?

    17″

  196. Bitterlaw says:

    15 years so far. Don’t bitch to me. You are one of Trump’s biggest supporters, Tina. Sorry he let you down.

  197. Bitterlaw says:

    Or 16. I could look it up.

  198. Tom says:

    Oct. 7, 2001. 16 years so far.

  199. Tina says:

    i do not supoort this, bl. Nice try though. He has done 3 mistakes so far and I have called him out each time. With that said, he is more conservative on economic issues and judges than your faux rs.

  200. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s ok, Tina. Chris Matthews agrees with you.

    I can see the arguments for ending the war or staying.

  201. Tina says:

    The problem is bush went in and never finished. We had to go in, there is no argument there, but 16 years, going on 17 is too long. The longest war for a cesspool. Then obama pulls them out, only to return them.

  202. Tina says:

    Maybe he has a new strategy for winning. He prett mush smashed the jay vee team in 6 months, isisi,

  203. Bitterlaw says:

    Are you as dumb as Poster Trump. I know you don’t support this policy. That is why I said this is too much force for you in 204.

  204. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    John McCain?@SenJohnMcCain
    I commend @POTUS’s new strategy for #Afghanistan. We must move past last admin’s failed policy of postponing defeat. http://bit.ly/2wyUi05

    Marco Rubio?@marcorubio
    #AfghanStrategy laid out by @POTUS was put together the right way. Careful review & consideration of multiple views & ideas. Very good.

    Am beginning to enjoy living in the post-Bannon world. Not has much as Cash Cow is right now, but still a lot.

  205. Tina says:

    GOober is loving the president.

    Lol, after calling him a failure for condemning both sides.

  206. Tina says:

    We can see what happens after 6 months. He has dine welk smashing isis. I would be wilking to give him a chance, as long as he does not stupidly topple me dictators.

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    An independent from California gets to choose who the areal Republicans are? Hilarious. Rubio is more conservative than Trump. So was Walker. I could argue the same point for most of them.

  208. Tina says:

    I am mire conservative than all of those clowns.

  209. Tina says:

    Not on economic matters. Rubio may be close, but none would have done the reg cuts and federal workforce cuts, and debt cut.

  210. Bitterlaw says:

    Pure speculation, Tina. You love ztrump and will everything in his favor. Except tonight’s speech.

  211. Tina says:

    There is nothing conservative about nationbuikding, until the neos took over policy. The neos are not conservative so I do not use the word.

  212. Tina says:

    No true fact, and you know it. Nobody would cut regs. Bush 43 increased them. The rest would have done the same.

  213. Tina says:

    You need to admit that the blow up the me policy is not good. Sadly, your idols like mcamnestynand goober fail to realize that.

    Hopefully, he has alterred policy, like he did against isis. Willing to give him the bene.

  214. Bitterlaw says:

    Ca
    Long speculation a fact does not make it so. The ME is a mess. It has been a mess since the collapse of the Ootoman Empire.

  215. NYCmike says:

    “Rubio is more conservative than Trump.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    Trump came out for a radical new approach to immigration, one of its main points being NO AUTOMATIC WELFARE.

    Rubio then undercut any chance to negotiate with Dems for some concessions by saying he could not support that approach.

    Trump may not be conservative, but Rubio’s action in that regard shows him to be LESS CONSERVATIVE than we all think he is.

    Let’s keep watching and let actions determine levels of conservatism,.

  216. Tina says:

    You call it spec, imcall it rewality. The rest of the field are spenders and porkers and for ooen borders. Truth hurts.

    Better thsn h beast though.

  217. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn iPad. That should have been calling speculation a fact does not make it so.

  218. Bitterlaw says:

    We just disagree over speculations, Tina. You’re still my favorite 49ers fan.

  219. Tina says:

    Looks like kasich wants an immediate draw down. No doubt he will be the primary challenger.

  220. NYCmike says:

    Kasich – stay in Ohio! Please!

    Actually, it will be fun to watch MD take back all of his “KC” comments and become a Republican again, so he can vote in the primary against Trump.

  221. Bitterlaw says:

    Apparently, McCain liked the speech. Bad night for Tina.

  222. Tina says:

    Calling out pokestan.

    Yeah, they hit bin laten.

  223. Tina says:

    They hid bin laten

  224. NYCmike says:

    Good night.

  225. Tina says:

    Yeah good night, gang, even bl, who annoys me, despite being my fav. Attorney here.

  226. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – I respect you enough to disagree with you on substance. I don’t just type “creepy moron” 299 times.

  227. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Lindsay Graham liked the speech, and Bannon didn’t things. Things are looking good now, Trump is listening to the right people.

    ____________

    “Breitbart slams Trump for Afghanistan plan: Steve Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist who recently returned as executive chairman of Breitbart News, is criticizing the president’s plan for the war in Afghanistan.”

    “@LindseyGrahamSC: “President #Trump has the smarts and the moral courage to listen to his generals and take their advice.”

  228. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump’s introduction was very good in the way it attacked intolerance and hate. He needs to incorporate it into his future speeches.

  229. Bitterlaw says:

    SD – McCain, Graham, and I liked the speech, I can see why Tina went to bed early. If this continues, she may become a Never Trumper and follow MD on Twitter.

  230. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump is doing something that should have been done a decade ago, shift our alliance to favoring India instead of Pakistan. Bush played up to Pakistan in a disastrous manner. Privately the military was none too happy.

  231. Bitterlaw says:

    MD is mad that Baron Trump wore a Philadelphia Eagles shirt today.

  232. janz says:

    I wasn’t able to hear Trump’s speech, although I wanted to. So, it was good to hear positive comments from people here who have differing opinions on Trump – especially Bitter!

  233. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I liked it too! Rubio also tweeted his support. It was a turning point, a culmination of the process of getting the wrong staff out

    As someone once said: “The elected official is merely the figurehead for the staff.

  234. Bitterlaw says:

    Interesting. Daily Kos and Breitbart have similar views on the speech.

  235. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    243. Agree Janz. However due have to say that Bitter and I usually are aligned on issues.

  236. Bitterlaw says:

    Jan’s – Don’t worry. I still despise Trump. However, I like that he appears to be listening to the military. To be clear. If the military had said we need to leave, I would defer to them as I defer to them when they say “fight.”

  237. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    243. You can find the full video of Trump’s speech on You Tube.

  238. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC is a wise man. Too upbeat and pleasant for me but definitely wise.

  239. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Regarding Trump’s speech, George Orwell once said:
    “There is an alternative to war. It’s called surrender”.

    Obama was proof the peacenik approach did not work.

  240. janz says:

    Bitter, I know you don’t look kindly on Trump. However, you’re able to separate your opinion of him from the actions and words you do approve of. I respect and give you kudos for that ability.

  241. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    249. That is because your an Easterner, and I am a Westerner.

  242. janz says:

    Thanks, SDC, for the info.

  243. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    251. The irony here of course is that Bitter voted for Trump and I didn’t.

  244. Bitterlaw says:

    I am a conundrum, SD.

  245. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    By the way, where is Robbie and the trolls?

    Did the eclipse scare them away?

  246. lisab says:

    why is it that when the sun black’s out on a monday afternoon it is “an amazing natural phenomenon”, but when i do it in the classroom it is a “problem”

  247. Bitterlaw says:

    Ssshhhhh. I’m hoping the Wizard dropped the hammer.

  248. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    255. “I am a conundrum, SD.”

    Doesn’t that make you a typical Easterner?

  249. lisab says:

    “By the way, where is Robbie and the trolls?”

    they are up in the air on what to push

    russia seems dead

    the racism thing is starting to backfire

    they need marching orders

  250. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    258. I sure hope your right.

  251. janz says:

    Well, SDC, these are indeed strange and confusing times. I decided to vote for Trump once he got the nomination, simply because I think Clinton is the most corrupt, soul-less person in my lifetime. However. I really have never developed a taste for his style and tweets. Nonetheless, I continue to support him.

  252. Bitterlaw says:

    Because the sun is not in a union. It works hard the rest of the day. Zing!

  253. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m out. SDC can handle the night shift.

  254. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    262. I did not vote for Hillary, and knew in California my vote would not have made a difference. So wrote in Evan McMullin.

    I support Trump now. Will also say I thought his speech tonight was the best he has ever given. It is worth watching. He came across very presidential.

  255. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    What is most disturbing now is, why we blog away, Cash Cow is on a veranda overlooking Lake Powell probably sipping a margarita. Am soooo jealous.

  256. lisab says:

    but 16 years, going on 17 is too long. The longest war for a cesspool.
    ——————–

    we were in the phillipines longer

  257. CashCow TM says:

    Seems like a pleasant discussion has broken out on HHR–different opinions expressed, without all the nastiness and vitriol.

    Things may be looking up.
    _____________________________
    On a side note, you know why one famous golf course requires golfers who play there to wear two pair of socks?

    IN CASE THEY GET A HOLE IN ONE!

  258. Cash Cow TM says:

    Speaking of case…

    This judge presided over trial and conviction of HS football players in OH who raped a WV high school girl.

  259. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump Retweeted

    Marco @marcorubio Good #AfghanStrategy & excellent speech by @POTUS laying it out to the nation.
    4,785 replies 4,098 retweets 18,206 likes

    It is a different world with Kelly, Ivanka and Kushner dominant in the West Wing.

  260. JC says:

    @sandiego

    I’m not in the least but surprised that the perpetual ‘let’s go to war’ brigade is happy about the escalation in the 16 year old never ending conflict. These people have a fetish with instigating costly and unnecessary wars with little to no strategic value or end goal.

    To be clear, I’m not necessarily opposed to this, as the goal seems more towards pushing Pakistan to clamp down on terrorists cells as well as giving India a greater influence over the region (which hurts China)

    Regardless, there is nothing that Rubio et-al can say that will change my views on these a-holes. They spent months joining the hysterical msm in criticizing Trump for every single twitch of his finger. They failed spectacularly to enact their 7 year promise – one broken by pathetic jealousy by a vengful old fool. They remained silent or even gave credence to the Russian witch hunt, thus giving this blatant coup attempt legitimacy. And they will drag their heels on real immigration reform, while pushing for amnesty that will ensure that the GOP becomes the permanent minority.

    But that stuff is not what makes me despise them beyond (bannable) words. No, it was the complete and total acceptance and denial of antifa instigated violence in Charlettesville. These ignorant buffoons just labled these Brownshirt thugs – who have spent the last 8 months beating up their own supporters – as ‘fighters against hatred’. No. just no.

    These establishment lackeys can go to H. I’m done with them.

  261. Bitterlaw says:

    And they will drag their heels on real immigration reform, while pushing for amnesty that will ensure that the GOP becomes the permanent minority.

    JC’s desire to purge Republicans who do not meet his standards from the GOP will ensure that the GOP becomes a permanent minority even faster.

  262. JC says:

    BL,

    Every time a politician runs on strong immigration enforcement he/she wins big. Trump’s recent immigration proposal was very popular across party lines.

    Meanwhile, giving amnesty to 10-20 million foreign nationals who are dependant upon government welfare and will vote +90% for dems does not seem like a winning strategy.

  263. Bitterlaw says:

    I oppose amnesty. I also oppose strategies like purging the GOP that do nothing but benefit the Democrats. Now it is your turn to say “But Bitter. The parties are the same.”

    I always follow the 1% Rule. I will always take a Republican who only gives me 1% of what I want over a Democrat who will give me 0% of what I want. I would prefer a Republican who gives me 100% but I live in the real world where perfection does not exist.

  264. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2021/

    The Mindset List is out! It shows us how College Freshmen see the world. I thought these were really interesting:

    7. Peanuts comic strips have always been repeats.

    14. Donald Trump has always been a political figure, as a Democrat, an Independent, and a Republican.

    19. In their lifetimes, Blackberry has gone from being a wild fruit to being a communications device to becoming a wild fruit again. (I still use mine!)

  265. Phil says:

    Giving amnesty to ten to twenty million would indeed doom the Republican Party. Simple math. That’s why Democrats to a man and woman love it. Unfortunately, about a fourth of the Republican Party seems fine with that.

    As it is, it is just a matter of time anyway. More and more anchor babies become eligible to vote each election cycle. They Vote for the party that offers the most free goodies.

    Let’s all guess which party that will be.

    At least without amnesty Republicans have probably two presidential election cycles for everything to play out. After that, we have a different America.

  266. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – You live in a Red state filled with illegals. Maybe Texas is a blueprint for a Republican future on a national scale given the issues involved.

  267. Tina says:

    Paul ryan had a cnn town hall last night. He appears to have done well, and actuakky defended the president.

    Bigger point, no questions on muh russian.

  268. NYCmike says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 21, 2017 at 10:51 pm

    Lindsay Graham liked the speech, and Bannon didn’t things. Things are looking good now, Trump is listening to the right people.

    -I’ll stay out of this one. Graham is correct sometimes, as is Bannon. NOBODY is always correct.

    I do believe we need to stay, but I wonder why we would only need 4,000 more soldiers to carry out such an important mission, unless the generals are ready to let the Air Force do a lot of “softening up” in between troop movements. Maybe the Obama ROE were so restrictive that easing them will be a force multiplier.

  269. Phil says:

    Admittedly, Bitter, the Republican Party is holding its own in Texas – for now. It has to. Once Texas turns the electoral map is out of reach for any Republican. Game over.

    On the electoral map we’ve seen one after another states become out of reach in presidential elections. California followed by New Mexico followed by Colorado. Nevada is tilting on the edge and will be followed by Arizona at some point. Florida is at least a couple of presidential election cycles away.

    How do we do it in Texas? Whites vote Republican by about 65-68 percent in presidential elections. Trump didn’t get that high and he therefore carried Texas by about half of what Romney won by. Second, Republicans get about one third of the Hispanic vote. Third, Hispanics don’t turn out in the same numbers as whites. Finally, unlike California we shut down illegals from voting. We have strict Voter ID laws and unlike California we don’t provide driver’s licenses that can be used for voter fraud.

  270. NYCmike says:

    This is what MD, “CG”, Author and Cory wanted more of:

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/21/uss-mccain-collision-us-navy-bad-way-right-now

    “Peters called out the military, especially in the Obama administration, for turning the armed services into a “social engineering experiment.”

    “Those sailors did not have the basic seamanship skills, but by God, they got their sensitivity, race relations and sexual harassment training,” said Peters, adding that sailors can’t fight without adequate navigational skills.”

  271. NYCmike says:

    http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/i-hope-trump-is-right-and-im-wrong-on-afghanistan/

    -Ralph Peters also has something to say about Afghanistan.

    Like him, I hope Trump, along with his generals, is correct in their assessment of the approach needed.

    Peters does not paint a pretty picture, but then again, Wes, who must have served since he is for the Afghan War, supports the idea of being here to fight.

  272. Tina says:

    I am lukewam on the decision, we have been there too long. The pulling out, outting in, oulling out, and pulling in needs to stop.

    With that said, the new strategery against isis is going well, Shocking gains in 6 months.

  273. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    It seems like, when the “training wheels” are taken off, and our military is granted freedom to FIGHT, it does a great job.

    SHOCKING!

  274. Phil says:

    So Trump’s rally in Phoenix is tonight?

    Soros will no doubt have his shock troops primed and ready for disruption and distruction.

    Look for tomorrow’s network morning shows to report everything as Trump’s fault for being in Phoenix in the first place and not staying holed up in the WH.

    Bet on it. It’s a sure thing.

  275. Jonesy says:

    Ralph Peters endorsed Hillary for President. He is a fool

  276. NYCmike says:

    63 million people voted for Hillary.

    ALL OF THEM are foolish, or do they have a different opinion?

  277. Jonesy says:

    Mike, Peters whines about PC in the military, but votes for Hillary?

  278. NYCmike says:

    I understand your point, Jonesy.

  279. Wes says:

    TX and FL Republicans know how to balance appeals to whites and Latinos. CO Republicans stupidly enacted TABOR and let Dems get off the hook thereby while the COGOP has become increasingly identified with religious zealots in a largely secular state. If the COGOP could repeal TABOR and at least dial back the rhetoric on the social issue nonsense (as Cory Gardner did), then Centennial State Dems would return to minority status as TX and FL Dems have done.

    Latinos of the legal variety aren’t generally the problem. They are malleable in their votes and often give Republicans large portions or even majorities of their votes. It’s inability to adapt to local social mores and give Latinos a reason to support them while keeping up theiir margins among whites that’s cost Republicans dearly in several states.

    Trump ran an overall smart national campaign to attract broad swathes of white voters, but his sometimes demagogic rhetoric toward Latinos hurt him in the West. Were he to reverse that in 2020 and make an effort to keep whites in the fold white giving more Latinos a reason to eschew loyalty to the Dems, he would sharply increase his margins in western states he carried and pick off others he lost narrowly to win in a landslide.

  280. Wes says:

    The GOP needs a Howard Dean-style 50-state strategy to secure majority status. NH, CO, MN, VA, NV, and NM could be the nucleus of such a strategy. Once Republicans started regaining lost ground in those states by tailoring messages and candidates to the locals, Dems would become an enclave party with less chance of outreach to GOP-friendly states and would find it harder to influence or direct national policy.

  281. Tina says:

    Despite mr bls swipes last night, my initial reaction was disappointment. I then quickly restated that i woukd give trumpmthe benefit of the doubt in light of the isis stratergery.

  282. Tina says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/22/cnn-panel-of-trump-supporters-unbothered-by-charlottesville-comments-video/

    Panel of trump supporters not bothered by the blame both sides in va comments.

  283. Jonesy says:

    Wes, Nova is a hard nut to crack.

    NH has the Boston media market

    Colorado has the potheads

    Minn and Nevada are the best bets

  284. janz says:

    Good stuff, Wes, in #292, #293.

  285. janz says:

    I think the Phoenix rally will give the press lots of violent images in which to enlarge their distorted presidential POV. I sometimes even wonder if Trump supporters will be discouraged from attending because of all the leftist planning going on to disrupt it.

  286. jason says:

    Great takedown.

    Senator Graham:

    I trust General Mattis a lot more than I trust General Paul.

    Me too…

  287. jason says:

    I liked Trump’s speech.

    Sue me.

  288. janz says:

    #299. That’s tragic….Stupidity seems to be in Vogue these days!

  289. janz says:

    I finally got to watch Trump’s speech on utube last night. I liked how he wove together his intolerance for hatred/bigotry, his hope for healing this country’s divisiveness, and how it related to those fighting to keep the country safe.

  290. janz says:

    Did anyone see how the military audience reacted to Trump’s words?

  291. Cash Cow TM says:

    Heading to Antelope Canyon.
    A pictureque walk through narrow slot canyon.

    Maybe I will meet some other hoofed critters ?

  292. jason says:

    I would certainly support this approach..but I doubt the deadenders will…

    “Donald Trump’s top aides are pushing him to protect young people brought into the country illegally as children — and then use the issue as a bargaining chip for a larger immigration deal — despite the president’s campaign vow to deport so-called Dreamers.

    The White House officials want Trump to strike an ambitious deal with Congress that offers Dreamers protection in exchange for legislation that pays for a border wall and more detention facilities, curbs legal immigration and implements E-verify, an online system that allows businesses to check immigration status, according to a half-dozen people familiar with situation, most involved with the negotiations.

    The group includes former and current White House chiefs of staff, Reince Priebus and John Kelly, the president’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, and her husband, Jared Kushner, who both serve as presidential advisers, they said. Others who have not been as vocal publicly about their stance but are thought to agree include Vice President Mike Pence, who as a congressman worked on a failed immigration deal that called for citizenship, National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and Gary Cohn, a Democrat who serves as director of the National Economic Council.”

  293. jason says:

    63 million people voted for Hillary.

    ALL OF THEM are foolish, or do they have a different opinion?”

    Foolish.

  294. NYCmike says:

    Nice write-up, but quick question:

    What is the deal with TABOR? This is a way to keep government spending in check, but it had other consequences?

  295. Phil says:

    306

    I could go for that.

    Democrats will never go for it, however.

  296. NYCmike says:

    “I would certainly support this approach..but I doubt the deadenders will…

    “Donald Trump’s top aides are pushing him to protect young people brought into the country illegally as children — and then use the issue as a bargaining chip for a larger immigration deal — despite the president’s campaign vow to deport so-called Dreamers.”

    -Excuse me, Rubio already showed that he would be the problem.

    Trump was in with the Cotton/Perdue bill, which was pretty tough. One of the compromises Trump/Republicans could have made was to protect “the children”.

    Of course, with Rubio coming out publicly AGAINST the Cotton/Perdue bill already, it will make it pretty hard to negotiate with zealots…..LIKE SCHUMER.

  297. NYCmike says:

    Exactly, Phil.

    It would NOT be deadenders who are the problem.

    If you go with a Cotton/Perdue bill to start, you have some room to compromise.

    Negotiating 101.

  298. NYCmike says:

    jason comes back after long period away, instantly shows he is still an A-Hole.

    No eclipse for that dark spot.

  299. Tina says:

    Seems like muh kkk, muh racist is dying down. Not sure where the drats fo next.

    Muh something?

  300. NYCmike says:

    I thought this was pretty funny – surprised that the media has not jumped all over this yet:

    “H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser who still serves as a lieutenant general in the US Army, showed Trump a black-and-white image from 1972 of Afghan women walking through Kabul in miniskirts, according to The Post.”

  301. NYCmike says:

    Trump must be wondering if he can grab them by their “beard”? (Well, it was the 70’s, have you ever seen Playboys from that time?!?)

  302. NYCmike says:

    In regards to immigration:

    There is no way to negotiate with Democrats, and still get a sane immigration policy, if you do not go as far to the other extreme as possible.

    Cotton/Perdue had the right idea – try for 100%, but be happy with 60-75%.

  303. NYCmike says:

    ….after negotiations.

  304. Tina says:

    If he is negotiating, i do not think he is revealing to papers what he will setle for.

  305. NYCmike says:

    Tina, to what, and whom, are you referring?

  306. Tina says:

    Your comments and others about an immigration reform pkg. from the president.

  307. Bitterlaw says:

    Welcome back, A-hole Jason.

  308. NYCmike says:

    That post by jason – about White House officials – will Robbie be going after Chief of Staff Kelly now, since the leaks are apparently still happening, even with Bannon gone.

  309. NYCmike says:

    I don’t think he would reveal that either, Tina.

    Which is why I took issue with jason’s comments, and because he blamed “deadenders” again.

    How is it that jason has said NOTHING about Rubio undermining the Cotton/Perdue bill?

  310. Wes says:

    Mike, from a fiscal standpoint, TABOR (Taxpayer Bill of Rights) is a sound idea as it forces fiscal restraint on the Colorado state government. Its unintended consequence, however, has been to help Democrats mask their worst economic impulses and send the state into far left territory on all other issues.

    Essentially by doing the right thing, CO Republicans destroyed their own strongest argument for maintaining power and let moonbat Dems take over.

    By repealing it, the COGOP would make Coloradans deal directly with the consequences of having moonbats running the show. This would likely result in a decline in Dem support in the state.

  311. JulStol says:

    TABOR is universally unpopular and, to the point Wes is making, political suicide.

  312. Trump says:

    ” However, I like that he appears to be listening to the military. To be clear. If the military had said we need to leave, I would defer to them as I defer to them when they say “fight.”

    Another stupid post by the moron. It’s beyond his comprehension that the military does not decide whether to leave or fight.

    Every president in every war has decided whether to start or end a war. The thing the military does is plan and execute the How.

  313. NYCmike says:

    Thanks.

  314. Wes says:

    TABOR has been proposed here in NC. If it makes the ballot I will be actively campaigning and voting against it.

  315. Tina says:

    The drat candidate running for ga governor, wants to taliban mt rushmore.

    Remeber taliban destroyed the budhists statues.

  316. Trump says:

    Every president decides on the goals and objectives of his diplomacy. The military does not decide the goals.

    War is just diplomacy by other means.

  317. Bitterlaw says:

    Every president in every war has decided whether to start or end a war.

    Trump must not have heard about Pearl Harbor.

  318. Cash Cow TM says:

    WTH is TABOR?
    Someone please catch cow up….

  319. Cash Cow TM says:

    Ok.

    Taxpayer Bill of Rights….

    Which specifically says what?

  320. NYCmike says:

    TA BOR is to read MD’s Twitter account

  321. NYCmike says:

    That you must be fiscally responsible with taxpayer $$.

  322. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    330. “Tina says:”The drat candidate running for ga governor, wants to taliban mt rushmore. Remeber taliban destroyed the budhists statues.”

    An excellent analogy Tina. Those trying to rip down historic statues are like the Taliban, and should be referred to as such. Thankfully the American people are rejected that sort of extremism.

    Rasmussen polls:

    “Despite widespread media condemnation of the president’s response following the recent incident in Charlottesville, Virginia, 50% of Likely U.S. Voters agree with Trump’s Twitter tweet that it is “sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments.” The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 37% disagree, while 12% are undecided. (To see survey question wording,”

    “A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 88% of Likely U.S. Voters oppose removing the names of Washington and Jefferson from public places and taking down statues in their honor. Just seven percent (7%) favor the removal of their names from the public square because Washington and Jefferson like several of the other early presidents were slave owners. (To see survey question wording, click here.)”

    “Ninety percent (90%) oppose the closing or changing of Mount Rushmore because two of the four presidents it honors were slave owners. Only six percent (6%) believe the national historic monument in South Dakota should be changed or closed because it honors Washington and Jefferson.

    Ninety-four percent (94%) of voters agree that it is better to try to learn from the wrongs of the past than to erase them. Just four percent (4%) think it is better to erase the wrongs of the past instead.”

  323. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    338. As usual, the fringe liberal press drove itself off the cliff trying to pander to the extreme left.

  324. NYCmike says:

    “338. As usual, the fringe liberal press drove itself off the cliff trying to pander to the extreme left.”

    -Which is one of the reasons why, despite some being of the opinion that a more forceful condemnation was needed for certain groups, the President was correct to condemn ALL violence, and should have been supported.

  325. Tina says:

    He needs to get off twitter, said the poster, who has gone silent.

  326. Tina says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/04/29/donald-trump-on-his-foreign-policy-strategy.html

    This is a transcript on afghanistan by then candidate trump.

    He indicated that he woukd stay in. I thought he had said the opposite. It appears that he did not flip flop. His position.

  327. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – You should send the transcript to Bannon. He is the one saying that Trump flip flopped.

  328. NYCmike says:

    Bannon got it wrong AGAIN!

    🙂

  329. Phil says:

    339

    Bingo

  330. Phil says:

    What time do the Phoenix riots start this evening?

    Have Soros’s buses arrived yet?

  331. Wes says:

    I think Flake needs to retire so DeWit or McSally can take the nomination. Chemtrail Kelly is a guaranteed loser in the election.

  332. Tina says:

    Dewit is an upgrade.

    However, per bl, we cannot comment

  333. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is from CNN. Given Bannon’s prior conduct, it could be true:

    “In the emails, Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow pledged that he and several other top editors would do Bannon’s “dirty work” against White House aides. The emails were shared with CNN by the prankster.

    In other emails, Marlow suggested he could have Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump ousted from the White House “by end of year” and shared a personal smear about their private lives, perhaps an indication of how low the website is willing to go to achieve its agenda.”

  334. NYCmike says:

    Bannon’s “dirty work” can only work if any stories they print are TRUE, and if the people the stories are about are affected by the public airing of them.

    This is politics.

    Please explain how Bannon is any different than any other political operatives who see an obstacle to their agenda.

  335. Bitterlaw says:

    However, per bl, we cannot comment

    Zzzzzzzzzzz

  336. JC says:

    Hopefully Dewitt or Trent jumps in. If not, Kelly will still have a greater chance a retaining the seat than Flake.

    Flake is a dead man walking. He has no cross-over appeal and he went out of his way to scorn his base.

  337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    351. “This is politics.”

    We disagree. I think there are limits that should be adhered to, including regarding people’s private lives. As an example, some of the articles that contain claims about Barron Trump are out of order, as are those about Malia Obama.

    If Bannon wants to spread rumors of what a couple does in private, then he is a perv in my book.

  338. NYCmike says:

    Agree on the children aspect, not so sure about the other part.

    If couples who have a hand in crafting public policy are engaging in activity where they can be easily blackmailed, that is something I want to know.

    If Ivanka and Jared are just getting kinky with each other, they will be able to laugh it off, and most Americans would laugh with them.

  339. JC says:

    “…perhaps an indication of how low the website is willing to go to achieve its agenda.”
    ——————-

    This is coming from CNN, a network that has literally devolved into a soviet style propaganda machine.

  340. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/22/tech-blacklisting-counterjihadists-muslim-brotherhood-seeks-sabotage-hands/

    -What is it they say: “We’ll even sell you the rope by which you will hang us.”

  341. lisab says:

    If Ivanka and Jared are just getting kinky with each other
    ————————

    what did they do?

    (just looking for ideas 🙂 )

  342. Tina says:

    Bl is alseep at 6pm.

  343. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    356. “This is coming from CNN, a network that has literally devolved into a soviet style propaganda machine.”

    Agree with you; CNN is filled with hateful propaganda against Trump. Then again, Bannon ran off and made a rant to another liberal news source. Also the claim is the exchange took place in E-mails, which are publishable.

  344. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Anybody in their right mind knows that you naturally assume any E-mail that is sent can become public. Breitbart would obviously know that — so the question is who was gaming who in the exchange?

  345. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    362. NewsBreak: “CNN has been informed by a reliable source that Ivanka and Jared…”

  346. JC says:

    If Bannon was leaking – and he probably was – he deserved to get the boot, along with any establishment crony doing the same. The president does not need a power struggle in his own administration.

    Thankfully it’s looking like Gen Kelly has clamped down on this nonsense from both sides. There shouldn’t even be ‘two sides’. There should just be the president’s side.

  347. JC says:

    Also, I’m furious (but not surprised) that Session’s has done diddly squat about the publishing of the president’s phone transcripts with world leaders.

    That has got to be one of the highest levels of security breaches imaginable. This is so dangerous to our national security. Frankly, the reporter who published it should have been subpoenaed/arrested and interrogated.

    But nope. They get off scott free. I’m so sick of this nonsense. I’m tired of the political-class breaking laws at their own convenience and facing no consequences for it. AG Sessions has been the greatest disappointment all year.

  348. NYCmike says:

    JC,

    I would think that any Attorney General would get all of his proverbial ducks lined up before announcing anything.

    Give him some more time.

  349. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Agree with JC. They need to be loyal to the president, and put their personalities aside. You work for someone, they do not agree with you, you suck it in and don’t whine to someone else.

  350. JC says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 22, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    JC,

    I would think that any Attorney General would get all of his proverbial ducks lined up before announcing anything.

    Give him some more time.
    ——————-

    I’ve heard this excuse for 8 months. I’m not buying it anymore.

    Nothing will happen. Nothing.

    Just like with the illegal unmasking or private pay-for-play server. Nothing will come of it, and I have no idea what in the world makes you think that something will.

    First of all, if they were vigorously investigating this – which I doubt – they definitely should not be quiet about it. They should sing this investigation to the heavens. Make public spectacles out of it. Publicly subpoena people. Hold public congressional hearings. Announce far and wide that the reporter(s) is under criminal investigation. Make it known that the WaPo itself is being investigated. Maybe even drag out Besos to a hearing the same way these rats dragged the president’s family through the mud. The president himself should suspend WaPo’s press credentials ‘until the investigation is concluded’. In short, use every legal method imaginable to make their lives a living hell.

    Even if it ends in no conviction, at least make it clear that the DOJ will indiscriminately pounce on anyone who engages in this illegal behavior. Make it known to the world that there will be consequences to their livelihoods if they break laws or threaten our national security. Otherwise, they’ll just keep doing it again.

  351. Tgca says:

    New thread! Yay!