NV: Heller Trails By 8% in Primary Race

JMC Analytics have put out a primary poll for the US Senate race in Nevada and it shows another Republican incumbent US Senator might be on his way out during the primary.

Danny Tarkanian 39%
Dean Heller (inc) 31%

This poll was done August 24-25 among likely primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 5:06 pm
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468 Responses to “NV: Heller Trails By 8% in Primary Race”

  1. SanDiegoCitizen says:


  2. Tina says:

    Not food foe heller, but he is in better shape that Always Flake.

  3. George says:

    We know that former New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez will be among those paying attention. That’s because Rodriguez posted a picture of himself and Jennifer Lopez aboard New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft’s airplane as all three head toward Las Vegas:

    Trump supporter, must be a racist, Kraft and his friends having fun together.

  4. JC says:

    In 4 of the 8 GOP senate seats up for re-election in 2018:
    Flake approval – 18%
    Heller approval – 22%
    Corker approval – 34%
    Hatch vs. Huntsman – 21%-62%

    In the AL special election:
    Moore – 45%
    Strange – 32%

    The old guard is being replaced.

  5. lisab says:

    as the new school year approaches

    be sure to not visit your child’s teacher — it is always best when you keep your child’s teacher in the dark

    especially if your baby daddy is moving into a new house without you

    and the teacher finds out from the hairdresser

  6. lisab says:

    got my hair done today btw

  7. lisab says:

    it is always nice to give a staples gift card at the beginning of the year btw. often you can only give it to the school’s office, not to an individual teacher

    but definitely needed

  8. lisab says:

    worst gift evah?

    an organic free range ham

    i am a vegetarian

  9. lisab says:

    oh … don’t worry about turning in those medical forms about your child

    school’s are really flexible about that …. ?

  10. Tgca says:

    Funny! As if being called an ambulance chaser is nicer than being called a liar. Lol!

    My friends Tina and Bitter, I take no sides here, but as one great American once said: “can’t we just all get along?”

    From last thread
    Tina says:
    August 25, 2017 at 11:57 pm
    I do not call you a liar bl. Just an ambulance chaser.

  11. Wes says:

    JC told me on the previous thread Danny Tarkanian is the next Lincoln. Of course that plays into two bits of revisionist history:

    1) Lincoln was strictly a perennial loser before becoming President.

    2) Tarkanian is more than a perennial loser

    but, hey, who am I to argue with those who know nothing about history?

  12. Wes says:

    For the record, Abraham Lincoln won seven elections during his lifetime: four for the Illinois Legislature, one for US House, and two for President. He lost one Whig primary for House, failed to secure the 1856 GOP Veep nomination, and failed to get enough Republicans elected to the Legislature in 1858 to gain a Senate appointment.

    Danny Tarkanian has lost four general elections and a primary.

    He’s no Abe Lincoln.

    Lincoln also worked to build the GOP in its early years while Tark is a gadfly stroking his ego with a series of failed, q u ixotic bids for office.

    Again, Danny Tarkanian is no Abe Lincoln.

  13. NYCmike says:

    We need Walt to say “i knew Abe. Tark is no Abe Lincoln.”

  14. Tina says:

    Paul,Ryano comes out against the pardon.

    Has mitchie gone on record?,

  15. Bitterlaw says:

    He violated the judge’s order. I still don’t see why that merits a pardon. Trump had the right to pardon him but I don’t see a reason other than raw politics.

    It is also irrelevant that scumbag Mark Rich was pardoned. Arpaio is a better person than Rich.

  16. Tina says:

    Gregg Jarrett @GreggJarrett
    Sen. McCain’s ignorance of the Constitution is surprising. Presidential pardons cannot, by definition, undermine the rule of law,

    I found this tweet fro fox jarrett. Last night, i read that reidh wants trump impeached for violating the constitution over the pardon.

    Deserved or not, the legality of the pardon is not questionable or debatable.

  17. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Arpaio says the Clinton-appointed Judge denied him a Trial by Jury. Why?
    Was Obama’s Chelsea Manning pardon a political gift to the gay community?

  18. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeplike – Did Arpaio file appeals on that issue? I do not believe that there is a right to a jury trial for contempt of court/violating a judge’s Order. However, that would require me to do free research and Arpaio is not worth the effort. It is pretty obvious that people who worship Trump would justify any pardon of any individual.

    Again, Trump had the right to do it. I don’t agree with him doing it.

  19. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn autocorrect. I typed Sheeple

  20. jason says:

    I agree with the Arpaio pardon, mainly for the reason that it was an obviously political witch hunt as Arpaio put it himself.

  21. jason says:

    You won’t see this on the cover of the NYT.

    “The Podesta Group belatedly filed several new disclosures with the Justice Department on Aug. 17 related to work the firm completed between 2012 and 2014 on behalf of a pro-Russia Ukrainian think tank.

    Back in April, the powerful Washington lobbying firm run by Clinton ally Tony Podesta filed a document admitting its work for the pro-Russia European Centre for a Modern Ukraine may have principally benefited a foreign government. New disclosures revealed dozens of previously unreported interactions the firm made with influential government offices, including Hillary Clinton’s State Department and the office of former Vice President Joe Biden, while lobbying on behalf of the center. Embattled ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort failed to disclose his extensive lobbying efforts on behalf of the center at the time as well.”

  22. jason says:

    The old guard is being replaced.”

    Most likely by liberal Democrats.


  23. jason says:

    Tarkanian is a light weight who will lose the GE to a liberal Dem if nominated.

    You read it here first.

  24. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I predicted years ago that some at HHR would not be happy until the Senate was 99 Democrats and JulStol. I stand by it.

  25. wvally says:

    You may be right Bitter. MD now retweeting Nancy Pelosi.

  26. Tina says:

    Essentially, since there is no right to a jury trial and no compelling reason to grant a jury trial (e.g. the court found no merit to his argument that there would be the appearance of impropriety), the motion for a bench trial was granted.

    The order cites case law regarding the “not longer that 6 months” rule from Muniz v. Hoffman, 422 U.S. 454; United States v. Rylander, 714 F.2d 996; Taylor v. Hayes, 418 U.S. 488; United States v. Aldridge, 995 F.2d 233; United States v. Berry, 232 F.3d 897.

  27. Tina says:

    I am not for heller being primaried. With that said, his seat and flakes seat, we can kose one or both.

  28. Tina says:

    Pretty clear that the arpaio trial was a sham. Case filed weeks before the election, which obama has used.

    Look at the irs commissioner found jn contempt of congress and nothing done, Ryano, the Soeaker of the Swamp, is wrong.

  29. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump’s Tweets
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    We are in the NAFTA (worst trade deal ever made) renegotiation process with Mexico & Canada.Both being very difficult,may have to terminate?




    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    With Mexico being one of the highest crime Nations in the world, we must have THE WALL. Mexico will pay for it through reimbursement/other.

    Twet storm,

    Nafta was falsely sold as a way to stop illegal immigration from mexico. A lie by the swamp..

  30. wvally says:

    Richard Spencer: #McGregor made us proud. The Irish get to be White!


    I swear this guy has got to be a parody. He did some conference before the election giving a Nazi salute. He says totally wack sh*t like the thing above.

  31. wvally says:

    Round up of Hurricane Harvey photos including one photo of Houston freeway completely submerged.

  32. Bitterlaw says:

    My nephew is at Texas A&M. I hope he will only get lots of rain. Too much rain but could be worse.

    I hope Phil and his family are ok.

  33. Tina says:

    Stay safe, phil.

  34. Bitterlaw says:

    Texas is drowning. Trump is tweeting about NAFTA.

  35. Tina says:

    Not true, he tweeted both. Most of the psots last night and today were about the flooding.

  36. Wes says:

    Hm. Maybe Trump should focus–at least publicly–more on the storm and less on repealing the trade deal.

  37. Tina says:

    The houston mayor told people not to,evacuate from houaton, while the governor told them to.

  38. Tina says:

    Maxine Waters @RepMaxineWaters
    I’m not surprised Trump pardoned racial profiler Arpaio. White Nationalists, KKK, & Duke celebrated Trump’s election b/c he is one of them!
    4:47 AM · Aug 26, 2017

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Hm. Maybe Trump should focus–at least publicly–more on the storm and less on repealing the trade deal.

    Breaking News – I agree with Wes.

  40. Bitterlaw says:

    Maxine Waters is a moron. The pardon gave her a platform to make her point. No pardon = 1 less stupid statement by her.

  41. Tina says:

    The dumb always have a platform

  42. Tina says:

    Parallels between arpaio and lois lerner. One got away one did not.

    One broke laws, one followed laws.

  43. Tina says:

    Hmm, these obama pardoned people were not remorseful. I read here that it was a requirement for parson.

  44. lisab says:

    Drinking four cups of coffee a day could slash the chance of early death, a major study suggests.

    Research on 20,000 middle-aged men and women found that those who drank it regularly had mortality rates almost two thirds lower.
    Previous studies have found that coffee can improve liver function, reduce inflammation and boost the immune system.

    i am getting younger!

    4-cups a day? amateurs!

  45. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Below are Trump’s recent tweets regarding Hurricane Harvey

    Here are Trump’s tweets about Hurricane Harvey. He seems pretty focused on it.
    1. Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    Major rescue operations underway!
    2. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

    Going to a Cabinet Meeting (tele-conference) at 11:00 A.M. on #Harvey. Even experts have said they’ve never seen one like this!
    4. Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
    Wow – Now experts are calling #Harvey a once in 500 year flood! We have an all out effort going, and going well!

    6. Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
    I will be going to Texas as soon as that trip can be made without causing disruption. The focus must be life and safety.
    7. Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
    Replying to @realDonaldTrump
    Many people are now saying that this is the worst storm/hurricane they have ever seen. Good news is that we have great talent on the ground.
    8. Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago

    Great coordination between agencies at all levels of government. Continuing rains and flash floods are being dealt with. Thousands rescued.

    9. Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump 18h18 hours ago
    Wonderful coordination between Federal, State and Local Governments in the Great State of Texas – TEAMWORK! Record setting rainfall.
    10. Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 21h21 hours ago
    Donald J. Trump Retweeted SA Food Bank
    THANK YOU to all of the great volunteers helping out with #HurricaneHarvey relief in Texas!
    Donald J. Trump added,
    SA Food Bank @safoodbank
    We appreciate all the helping hands building emergency food boxes today.
    11. Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump Aug 26
    Closely monitoring #HurricaneHarvey from Camp David. We are leaving nothing to chance. City, State and Federal Govs. working great together!
    12. Donald J. Trump?Verified account @realDonaldTrump Aug 26
    .@ChuckGrassley – got your message loud and clear. We have fantastic people on the ground, got there long before #Harvey. So far, so good!
    Vice President Pence?Verified account @VP Aug 25
    All Americans in harms way need to be prepared and should continue visiting for critical updates on #HurricaneHarvey
    13. Donald J. Trump Retweeted
    Administrator Pruitt? @EPAScottPruitt Aug 25
    Thoughts and prayers for those in Texas & Louisiana. I am closely monitoring #Harvey developments along with @fema & @EPA staff.
    14. Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump Aug 26
    Donald J. Trump Retweeted Brock Long
    You are doing a great job – the world is watching! Be safe.
    Donald J. Trump added,

  46. Tina says:

    Sdc, most of the tweets are about the hurricane. At least 70 percent? Says he will go to tx once things calm down.

  47. JulStol says:

    I freaking love my President…

  48. Tina says:

    The “concern” that he is not focusing enough, or needs to focus 100 percent of the time on the tx flooding is noted.

  49. Tina says:

    The rs are frauds. No repeal of obumblercare and they will do an omnibus bill. Wait and see.

  50. lisab says:

    I freaking love my President…

    you do know he is over 18 right?

  51. Tina says:

    Fthe drats will bring up katrina 2.0. Same, predictable, game plan. Look for the ner trum losahs and republicrats to latch on.

  52. lisab says:

    well if trump had not pulled out of the paris accords …

  53. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As far as the Arpaio pardon, I agree that Obama’s pardons do not justify Trump also doing a questionable pardon.

    However, do believe the hypocrites who supported Obama’s pardon of a traitor and terrorist need to have their hypocrisy publicly called out when they attack Trump’s pardon.


    Chelsea E. Manning?@xychelsea
    taxation is a sharing of responsibility only the wealthy believe that taxation is theft they dont pay taxes we should make them

    Ben Shapiro ?@benshapiro
    And you should be in prison. But life isn’t always fair.

  54. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    56. “well if trump had not pulled out of the paris accords …”

    Am sure that Trump would consider keeping the Paris Accords in effect if China and India agreed to follow the same regulations that Obama committed the U.S. to. Seems strange that over 80% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions were exempted until after 2030. Of course Obama had strong support from the tech companies, like Google and Apple, who do most their manufacturing in China and India.

  55. lisab says:

    Am sure that Trump would consider keeping the Paris Accords in effect if China and India agreed to follow the same regulations that Obama committed the U.S. to.

    then you get flooding in houston

  56. lisab says:

    for eight years during obama there were no big storms

    trump’s first year there is a flood of biblical proportions in a republican state


  57. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    59. Are you blaming the hurricane that hit Texas on global warming?

    Am sure your aware this is the first hurricane that has hit the United States in 12 years? The amount of Category 4+ hurricanes to hit the U.S. has fallen 70% since 1970.

    Of course, I live in a state that was supposed to be in permanent drought. After massive rains, the claim is now that climate change will cause more rain in the future, not droughts.

    What is causing all this is a strange phenomena called “weather.” It is variable.

  58. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    60. “trump’s first year there is a flood of biblical proportions in a republican state

    Could it be voodoo?

  59. biomom says:

    It is karma for removing those statues and monuments.

  60. lisab says:

    Am sure your aware this is the first hurricane that has hit the United States in 12 years?

    and since trump was president they have returned

  61. lisab says:

    there is a clear positive correlation between the usa joining/cancelling the paris accords and a huge storm devastating texas

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    SusyQue told us God was a Democrat. That would explain Katrina and Harvey.

  63. lisab says:


    plus both storms hit republican states

  64. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “there is a clear positive correlation between the usa joining/cancelling the paris accords and a huge storm devastating texas”

    Has the little green man who told you this gotten back in his flying saucer and headed back to Mars yet? Heard he might have stopped by a burger joint on the way. May then have stopped by CNN to share some juicy gossip about Trump; they will quote him as a “reliable source.”

  65. lisab says:

    MEMPHIS, Tenn. — “Gone With the Wind” will be gone from The Orpheum’s summer movie series, the theater’s board said Friday.

    The Orpheum Theatre Group decided not to include the 1939 movie about a plantation in the Civil War-era South in its 2018 Summer Movie Series after feedback from patrons following the last screening Aug. 11.

    “As an organization whose stated mission is to ‘entertain, educate and enlighten the communities it serves’, the Orpheum cannot show a film that is insensitive to a large segment of its local population,” the theater’s operators said in a statement.

  66. lisab says:

    actually the correlation is +1.0

    paris accords joined –> no storm

    paris accords exited –> storm

    it is perfect positive coreelation

  67. JC says:

    Speaking of correlation, Maxine Watters is living proof that hatred and ugliness on the inside often manifests itself on the outside.

    Scientifically speaking, there’s probably some correlation between the stress hormones like adrenaline and cortisol constantly being released by angry emotions and the effects on the body’s aging process.

    People who are constantly angry not only age quicker but also have deteriorated heart/lungs because their bodies are over-exposed to the chemicals that are released during rage-induced adrenaline increases.

  68. lisab says:

    Father who pleaded guilty to killing his 3 year old son to keep his girlfriend “who didn’t like kids” happy, will get 10 years in jail

  69. JC says:

    lisab says:
    August 27, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    Father who pleaded guilty to killing his 3 year old son to keep his girlfriend “who didn’t like kids” happy, will get 10 years in jail

    10 years? He should be executed.

  70. lisab says:

    well … 8 for good behavior

  71. lisab says:

    obama … eight years … zero scandals

    thank you mr. president

  72. lisab says:

    nursing home in texas …

    evacuate your parents dumbasses

  73. Cash Cow TM says:

    Been away for a while.

    So why did Trump pardon the Arapaho Indians?
    Are the people opposed to his pardon Indian haters?

  74. lisab says:

    i blame trump

  75. william says:

    Live in College Station, Texas not bad here hard rain only. Temperatures for summer within a tenth of a degree of 100 year average. Global warming nonfactor. However, if we were just in an ice age would not have hurricanes.

  76. lisab says:

    twitter jayrome williams

    please only loot white owned stores and stores owned by trump supporters

  77. lisab says:

    Would Be Looter Survives Shot In The Head During Texas Home Invasion

    One man in Corpus Christi, Texas thought he saw an opportunity to loot some homes when Hurricane Harvey touched down last Friday night. Little did he know that the homeowner of the home he picked didn’t evacuate. The would be looter was met with lethal force when the homeowner caught him breaking into his home and shot him in the head. The man somehow survived the injury and the homeowner called the police. When police responded to the scene they found the man shot in the head but alive. The homeowner told police that the wounded man had broken into his residence and he had used his firearm in self-defense to shoot the intruder.

  78. lisab says:

    Lindsey Graham?Verified account

    Ultimately, I fear this executive order will become a self-inflicted wound in the fight against terrorism.

    John McCain?Verified account

    Ultimately fear this exec order will become a self-inflicted wound in the fight against terrorism

  79. Bitterlaw says:

    William – Good to hear. My nephew is at Texas A&M. Good luck.

  80. lisab says:

    But… but… Nate Silver gave McGregor a 92% chance of winning!

  81. JC says:

    We got very lucky in San Antonio. The storm halted about 70 miles from the city before it began trekking eastward. We experienced some strong winds and isolated rainfall but nothing serious.

    We served as an evacuation center at the lodging facility I work with. One man I talked to earlier today showed me a picture of his home in Corpus Christie. Most of his roof was torn away.

  82. NYCmike says:

    -These people are N V T S !

    The difference, Mr. Rogers, a journalist, is that the people who voted for Trump are overwhelmingly obedient to law and order, especially the order laid out in the Constitution.

    Trump, when his term/terms are up, will transfer power peacefully, just like every other President before him, and will do so without leaving behind people who are only loyal to him.

    His voters will insist!

  83. Cash Cow TM says:


    That must have reduced the ocean level…

  84. Cash Cow TM says:


    “Bull wounds anti-bullfighting activist…”

    No comment…

  85. MikeP says:

    Hi gang
    My wife and I are in the midst of the storm. We live on a estuary called Clear Lake. It has been scary because of tornados. Also we have a 72′ motor yacht in the marina. The tide has gone up about eight feet. The boat is still floating and the house is mostly dry, just some leaks. We don’t know about our condo in galleria area of Houston. However, I know a lot of people who have lost everything in their homes, really sad. This afternoon has been no rain but another feeder band may hit tonight. It is hard to get accurate weather forecast. I will keep advised from the battle front

  86. MikeP says:

    Phil will know the area well

  87. NYCmike says:

    -I think someone else posted this, but it needs to be posted again.

    And, God Bless the people in Texas dealing with the floods and other natural disasters!

    Stay safe!

  88. Cash Cow TM says:


    heavy R (rain)

    NY matador

    a damn tory

    manta dory
    my tan road
    o tardy man
    o many dart
    drama to NY
    torn mayda[y]

  89. Cash Cow TM says:

    Stay safe, MikeP…

  90. Tina says:

    Well a local sf reporter that I know has now declared the alt right aka kkk and antifa hateful.

    He was assaulted in Berkeley. They threatened to steal his phone, he said he has never seen hate up front like that.

  91. Tina says:

    They, being antifa.

    He is an old school reporter. Meaning he calls it as he sees it and while he is likely a drat, he never lets his biases show.

  92. Tina says:

    I think at least 10 were arrested. Cops sttood down, until they were threatened and they used tear gas.

  93. Tina says:

    Stay safe, texas hhrs. Thanks for the reports.

  94. janz says:

    To Mike P. — thinking a lot about you folks in Texas. I hope the reports of excess rainfall to come prove to be untrue.

    Tina, I can’t believe what is going on with antifa. They are beyond the scope of hateful. Somehow, I hope the people are able to see through all their politicized bs.

  95. janz says:

    To Mike P. — thinking a lot about you folks in Texas. I hope the reports of excess rainfall to come prove to be untrue.

    Tina, I can’t believe what is going on with antifa. They are beyond the scope of hateful. Somehow, I hope the people are able to see through all their politicized bs.

  96. janz says:

    The Post-Charlottesville Nervous Breakdown was Deliberately Induced.

    “But when honestly defined, the term “woke” actually means “programmed.” You can see it in today’s manufactured mobs composed of individuals who identify as social justice warriors. Any different opinion is likely to trigger a panic attack in them. They are blindly obedient to college professors who get them to confess their guilt for being born into “white privilege”—or being born at all. They parrot taunts to their perceived enemies and take safety in mobs that threaten violence, knowing full well when the local political machine has kneecapped police, whether it be in Berkeley or Charlottesville.”

  97. JC says:

    janz says:
    August 27, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    To Mike P. — thinking a lot about you folks in Texas. I hope the reports of excess rainfall to come prove to be untrue.

    Tina, I can’t believe what is going on with antifa. They are beyond the scope of hateful. Somehow, I hope the people are able to see through all their politicized bs.

    There are dozens of videos online of masked antifa thugs literally lynching people on the streets, while the police stood by and watched.

    Yet you will never, ever see this stuff in the msm.

    They will simply say there were ‘clashes’ between pro-Trump supporters and ‘peaceful-protestors’.

    And then you’ll have the same group of a-hole republicans like Rubio and McCain or some Bush donor start whoring in front of the cameras about how this is all Trump’s fault… while praising these ‘anti-fascist protestors fighting hate’ to boot.

    The establishment Republicans – the old party of Bush globalists – are the greatest threat to the party and to the nation. I truly believe that now. They only offer token ‘opposition’ to the warring left, whilst giving them and their illegal cohorts legitimacy. Is it any wonder how a nation that is 40% conservative and only 20% liberal keeps lurching leftward? It’s because for two decades the right’s leadership has had no interest in pushing back against the left. Let alone protecting there own voters from liberal oppression.

    As I stated earlier, fully half of the GOP senators up for re-election in 2018 are in severe danger of being primaried out. Every single one of these senators are establishment types who have routinely and publicly bashed Trump.

    As if they needed any more evidence that the base has rejected them and is demanding new leadership…

  98. Tina says:


    They went around and anybody with a trump hat in berkeley they called nazi and beat them up.

  99. MikeP says:

    excess rain is true at least 2 more days

  100. Bitterlaw says:

    Wow. After 31 years as a member of the Republican Party, years as a Committeeman in the most hostile city to Republicans (Philadelphia), and three times as a candidate for local and Federal office, I am now a danger to the nation.

    JC really knows how to hurt a person. Well, except for the fact that he can F off.

  101. JC says:

    BL is so easily #triggered

  102. Bitterlaw says:


    JC calls out lifelong Republicans and says we need to be replaced by….him? Here’s the problem with trying to make Trump the future of the party. What is it that we are supposed to believe when he leaves the stage? Will every “acceptable Republican” have to use twitter to fight with everybody?

    Trump only believes in Trump.

  103. NYCmike says:


    How about Republicans govern as they campaign??

    Would that be so dang hard for them?

    Trump is all for Trump, EXCEPT when he has enforced the RULE OF LAW, chosen conservative Supreme Court Justices, eliminated regulations, gone after voter fraud……..

    A Republican Congress will try to pass an omnibus spending bill……is that somehow Trump’s fault?

    Why was the budget process not handled like it is supposed to be handled?

    When will you look CRITICALLY at the job done by the Republican leadership in Congress?

    Ever? Never?

  104. Wes says:

    Don’t forget, Bitter, JC honestly believes Danny Tarkanian is the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. Of course Lincoln had a 7-3 political record while Tark has an 0-5 record guaranteed to rise to 0-6, but, yes, Tark is the new Lincoln.


  105. NYCmike says:

    Wes – another person who believes that once chosen/elected to a Senate seat, it is that persons RIGHT for life.

    He does not worry about how the constituents in that state want their Senator to represent them……but of course, I am the “fascist” for accepting that states have the right to choose different, albeit legal, procedures for picking their representatives.

  106. NYCmike says:

    Wes, and Bitterlaw, also do not refute JC when he asks “Is it any wonder how a nation that is 40% conservative and only 20% liberal keeps lurching leftward? It’s because for two decades the right’s leadership has had no interest in pushing back against the left. Let alone protecting there own voters from liberal oppression.”

  107. JC says:

    Wes says:
    August 28, 2017 at 9:18 am

    Don’t forget, Bitter, JC honestly believes Danny Tarkanian is the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. Of course Lincoln had a 7-3 political record while Tark has an 0-5 record guaranteed to rise to 0-6, but, yes, Tark is the new Lincoln.

    Nice cheap shot Wes. I didn’t even know who they guy was until about a week ago. I referenced Lincoln as an example that past election performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

    Or as a certain POTUS said; Never, ever give up.

  108. NYCmike says:

    Congress wanted to use the regular budget process BUT……….TRUMP TWEETED those days!

  109. DW says:

    So the Republican Gov of Texas said everyone should get out of Houston before comes the floods, but the mayor of Houston, a Democrat said they all should stay put.

  110. DW says:

    One would think that after Katrina, politicians would err on the side of evacuate, but I guess not.

  111. NYCmike says:

    The Mayor of Houston was doubling down, saying that he did the right thing to tell people to stay.

  112. Tina says:

    I am sre trump will be blamed, katrina 2.0. Acosta was previewing this on thurs or friday.

  113. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw to say Tina never blames Trump in 3……2……1…….

  114. Tina says:

    This headline needs to be scrubbed.

    We were told by thr az twins and rinos that they were peaceful.

    They own antifa.

  115. Tina says:

    He keeps tweeting and he did not condemn inly the kkk.

    Therfore, the congress cannot do anythung.

  116. Redmen4ever says:

    Mayor of Houston opposing evacuation was just thinking of his people. They need their FEMA checks.

  117. NYCmike says:

    Instapundit can see what many at HHR can’t:

    TAXPROF: The IRS Scandal, Day 1572: Why Did It Go Away? “Because the press didn’t want to cover anything that made Obama look bad, and the DC GOP was happy to see the Tea Party shut down.”

  118. janz says:

    Too much, these days, is fueled by political gain, rather than simply doing the right thing!

  119. Bitterlaw says:

    Too much, these days, is fueled by political gain, rather than simply doing the right thing!

    Good point. Of course, we can’t all agree on what the “right thing” is so we just fight about it.

  120. Bitterlaw says:

    When in doubt, listen to Cash Cow.

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t trust people who go by three names. Sorry, VDH.

    I do not oppose Trump. I just expect nothing from him. Anything positive is an unexpected bonus. I will try to maintain a respectful indifference. At least he is not Hillary.

  122. Tina says:

    The jebots candidate is not selling enough books.

  123. NYCmike says:

    -I do NOT want Arpaio to run for Senate. Too old, too divisive… got your pardon, now enjoy your freedom.

  124. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – NYC actually wants somebody to NOT challenge an incumbent Senator in a GOP primary despite supporting everybody’s right to run in a primary.

  125. NYCmike says:


    I want a younger, more conservative, less divisive person to challenge Flake.

    I do support Arpaio’s right to run, I would rather he did not.

  126. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – GFY. I will never pass up a chance to use this:

  127. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Flake is in trouble. However, always remember that the younger, more conservative, less divisive person may lose the General Election.

  128. Tina says:

    I am sure the jebots each purchased 400 copies of hilkarys book, How to be a loser.

  129. NYCmike says:

    Corrected, to take in current reality:

    “NYC – Flake is in trouble. Always remember that the older, less conservative, less divisive incumbent may not govern as they campaigned, thus ensuring a continued leftward march off the impending fiscal cliff. Make sure you continue to be vigilant and let your representatives know that actions speak louder than words.”

  130. janz says:

    #130 Victor Davis Hanson is probably one of my favorite columnists. Being a world-class military historian, writer, teacher, and central valley farmer, he has a down-to-earth sensibility regarding the issues of the day.

    After reading his latest analysis of the Trump presidency (read before NYC posted it) I considered it a very valid appraisal and comparison of past presidential actions, Trump’s performance as POTUS, and what would have happened should Hillary and the progressives won in 2016. When gauging all three, I will accept some of Trump’s vulgar, knee-jerk behavior when looking at the overall picture of how his policies are trending.

  131. janz says:

    The viciousness of Antifa is being glossed over by the MSM, just like they did with the IRS targeting scandal. Nothing is worth too much negative press if it is dem inspired or generated. That is the media’s rule of thumb when doing their so-called investigative reporting.

  132. Bitterlaw says:

    I like my version better, NYC.

  133. Bitterlaw says:

    If Flake is replaced by NYC’s ideal candidate and that candidate then loses to a Democrat, NYC will only blame Flake. He will not blame the alleged army of conserve voters who deserve “better” or the Democrats.

    If Flakes lose she primary, I hope the challenger wins the GE. However, if the challenger loses, I want NYC to own it.

  134. NYCmike says:

    I’ll own it the way you should own the votes cast by McCain, Murk and Collins.

  135. NYCmike says:

    If Flake governed as he campaigned, he would not have to worry about a primary.

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    145 Zzzzzzzz. I don’t live in their states and never called for them to lose. You want Flake out of office. You own the replacement whether GOP or Dem wins.

  137. Bitterlaw says:

    Still waiting for a bill that repeals AND replaces Obamacare. That is what McCain campaigned on.

  138. Bitterlaw says:

    If Flake governed as he campaigned, he would not have to worry about a primary.

    BS. If you believed that, you would never have wanted COD to win the DE primary. She took down a guy who voted repeatedly against Obamacare.

  139. NYCmike says:


    I don’t want Flake to lose.

    I want him to vote as a conservative Republican, or be replaced by a conservative Republican.

    COD? Seriously?

    Has nothing to do with Flake.

    We are speaking about incumbents.

  140. Tina says:

    If flake wins his primary contest, he could lose the general. Of course, if he loses the primary, he likkey refuses to endorse the R.

    Rino rules.

  141. NYCmike says:

    “Still waiting for a bill that repeals AND replaces Obamacare.”

    -Me too.

    Unfortunately, Mitch and his cohorts won’t let a Cruz bill, or a Lee bill, or a Paul bill, get voted on.


    A real profile in courage……

  142. NYCmike says:

    “Of course, if he loses the primary, he likkey refuses to endorse the R.”

    -And Bitterlaw will not call him on this?

  143. Tina says:

    Donald trump retweted the wp story about violent antifa.

    Triggering some.

  144. CG says:

    Flake has about the most conservative voting record in the Senate.

    What specific vote do you disagree with?

  145. Bitterlaw says:

    -And Bitterlaw will not call him on this?

    Zzzzzzzzz. I always think the loser should endorse the winner. Even a scumbag like Trump deserved that. However, if the loser runs as an Independent and wins, no harm. If they lose, exile them forever from the GOP.

  146. CG says:

    NYC will spend hours now searching for a vote to criticize Flake on.

    There isn’t one that can be attacked from an ideological perspective. Flake is about as conservative as they come. The issue NYC has with him is that he criticized Donald Trump, because Flake is a conservative and Trump is not.

  147. Bitterlaw says:

    Welcome back, Corey.

  148. Tina says:

    And he has an 18 percent job approval.

  149. CG says:

    If you choose to believe PPP (D) and their push poll.

    Sure, if true, that shows how dumb people who claim to be conservative like NYC are, because Flake’s voting record is about as conservative as anyone in the entire Senate and before that was about as conservative as anybody in the House.

    It’s just all about sucking up to Donald Trump to some.

    Again, name the specific votes where Flake has not been a conservative.

    I will say I have disagreed with Flake’s position on Cuba because he had taken the free-market libertarian approach towards trade with Cuba as opposed to the traditional pro-embargo position that most Republicans have had. But does that make him not a conservative? Is that what this is about? Cuba?

  150. Tina says:

    Arpaio should enjoy his retirement. His wife is gravely ill. He is 85 and no spring chicken.

  151. CG says:

    Here are the votes cast in the Senate this year in which Flake took a different position than the one expressed by Donald Trump-

    Flake voted in favor of increased sanctions on Russia, North Korea, and Iran, while Trump opposed (though ultimately signed the bill.)

    That’s it. Other than that, Flake has not cast one “anti-Trump” vote.

    97 other Senators voted the same way on the Sanctions bill as Flake did.

    So again, I hope NYC can back up his claims and point to specific Senate votes he disagrees with Flake on.

  152. Tina says:

    The poll is bad news for flake. I just do not see how he wins the general, if two thirds of republicans despise him.

    It is his own fault

  153. Tina says:

    Ann navaro claims to be a conservative too.

  154. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart
    ANY person in public with a mask and a bat, if it’s not Halloween, should be detained by police.

    Tell,that to rubio, he loves antifa.

  155. Tina says:

    I can no longer supoort any R that supports antifa or any mikitant group. I will not support them period. So, no money for flake, rubio, e al.

  156. CG says:

    Flake has a voting record. It is beyond preposterous to claim that his voting record is not conservative.

    Left-wing Democrats do not like Flake because of his voting record. Trump does not like Flake either. Perhaps, those factors are one in the same, but whatever reason people may not like Jeff Flake cannot logically be because they wish he had a more conservative voting record. That would be almost impossible to do.

    So, among those who claim to be Republicans, it’s really about nothing other than a mandate that one must never speak ill of Donald Trump (even if they happen to vote 95% of the time with him) and that’s pretty hypocritical since Trump is not much of a Republican nor does he have their best interests at heart.

  157. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell
    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    How long before the #Media MUST admit that Donald Trump was 100% correct in his post-Charlottesville comments? #Antifa is WRONG.

    And ryan, rubio, the az twins, so wrong, as ususal.

  158. Tina says:

    I could support rubio if he wants to be president ine day. I was ine of the first supporters of him here, when checkpants said that crist was entitked to the seat.

  159. Tina says:

    Evidently, 66 percent of the r voters drspise him.

    18 percent approval rate.

    Mccain 58

    Trump 76

    In Az.

  160. Tina says:

    This is looking like a bad week for the jebots, never trumpers, and drats aka the losers.

    Antifa is violent and shoukd have been condemened.

    Economy continues to roar.

    Muh Russian is dying. I wonder who paid for fake dossier, jeb bush, hillary? Who utilized a foreigner, who in turn utilized russian sources for the pepe memo?

    Mueller looking into creepy podesta.

    Federal gubment working well with tx, despite houston mayor doing something stupidily.

  161. Tina says:

    The leftists now want my reporter friend off facebook, He has worked in the bay area news for 30 years.

    No conservative. He just reported on violence and physical threats that antifa made to him,

    Antifa is non violent because rubio, ryan, and jeb said so.

  162. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii
    .@jaketapper, CNN’s besties the #Antifa were caught chanting, “No Trump, no wall, no USA at all!” Do you now disavow them completely?

    Besties of many rs too.

  163. NYCmike says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 28, 2017 at 2:50 pm


    I don’t want Flake to lose.

    I want him to vote as a conservative Republican, or be replaced by a conservative Republican.


    Is there something wrong with what I wrote?

    Also, compare this statement to your attitude about Trump vs. Hillary, and take into consideration what has transpired since Trump’s election regarding judges, cabinet choices and policies pushed, regulations rescinded, halted, and/or abolished.

    Sanctimony suits you……you just keep digging deeper and deeper.

  164. Redmen4ever says:

    But if we lose our Republican majority, we won’t get repeal and replace! Then what will we do?

  165. Redmen4ever says:

    Russia? I thought that we moved on from Russia to next whack-a-mole lie.

    Over here, we’re running an office pool on what the fake news will be after Trump is a Nazi, KKK, white supremicist runs its course.

  166. CG says:

    NYC, you said Flake did not “govern” as a conservative and you said something about his voting record.

    Can you produce anything remotely specific as it relates to his voting record? It sure does not seem like it.

  167. janz says:

    #162 Tina – I agree that Joe Arpaio should gracefully retire, leaving the political stage while he is ahead.

    As for Senator Flake and his reelection — I don’t think he should be condemned for his opinion of Trump, but rather his voting record should be what people should hold him accountable for.

  168. CG says:

    Again, please name a specific vote he cast that you feel was not a conservative vote.

  169. CG says:

    “FreedomWorks” gives Flake a lifetime score of 95% and 100% in 2017.

    How is he any less conservative on votes cast than Ted Cruz?

  170. janz says:

    In fact, I think simply not voting for someone because they are not a Trump fan can subject the R party to reject an otherwise great candidate. Joe Heck of Nevada comes to mind when I’m making this comment.

  171. CG says:

    “In fact, I think simply not voting for someone because they are not a Trump fan can subject the R party to reject an otherwise great candidate.”

    That’s the point I am trying to make to NYC. What in his voting record makes you believe he is not a “great candidate?”

  172. NYCmike says:


    I’ll get back to you on that. You may be correct. It won’t be the first time I am wrong.

    Now for you: How about Trump vs. Hillary?

    She would have been worse, the same, or better?

    In what ways?

  173. CG says:

    Of course you are wrong. I hope you will admit it.

    Trump vs. Hillary?

    I was 100 percent right to vote for neither of them.

  174. NYCmike says:

    I am fine with Freedomworks proving me wrong, as long as you then admit that Rand Paul is a conservative Republican, according to their list.

  175. Tina says:

    If flake is great why is his approval rate in az among fellow rs, 21 percent? It will be up to his people to decide.

    With that said, the seat is a tough one for us to ultimately hold.

    Arpaio did violate a judges order, as did moore in alabama. I would have trouble voting for either one, It is too bad that toxic mitchie intervened.

  176. CG says:

    That particular group rates Rand Paul as a conservative. I have fundamental differences with Rand Paul on foreign policy/national security matters, which I do not believe make him a conservative on those issues.

    I have stated that I have had a longstanding disagreement with Flake on his position of trade with Cuba as well.

  177. Tina says:

    The drats have an imoressive candidate to chalkenge flake in the general. But with 18 percent in az, it is tough for flake to win re election.

    All they need to do is send in mitchie to seal the loss.

  178. NYCmike says:

    “I was 100 percent right to vote for neither of them.”

    -You were willing to let a liberal Democrat, Hillary, be elected President.

    That is the truth.

    As long as you are comfortable with that……

  179. Tina says:

    The blow up the me winfg of the r party is not conservative.

  180. NYCmike says:

    “That particular group rates Rand Paul as a conservative.”

    -You are the one who used it to back up your claim about Flake, not me.

  181. Tina says:

    President Trump has issued an executive order revoking a previous Executive Order #13688, put in place by President Obama, which blocked local and state law enforcement from purchasing military surplus gear.

    They need to ask if the az twins, or other rinos are for it. I am sure they were against it when obama disallowed it.

  182. CG says:

    “willing to let” What a zzzzzz

    I am one voter and the result in my state was not in question. I wanted very much to nominate a conservative in the primary. Any of those candidates would have defeated Clinton and been a far more conservative and far better person than DJT.

    But yes, as sanctimonious as you think it makes me, the most important vote I ever cast will probably be the one against Donald Trump. He is that terrible for America.

  183. Tina says:

    Jeff Flake is under fire from all sides: Republicans, Democrats, and Arizona voters agree that Senator Flake is doing a bad job, making his re-election fight daunting just as it begins. From his wishy-washy stance on the GOP’s disastrous health care plan, to conservatives questioning his right-wing credentials, to dodging his constituent’s calls for town hall meetings, one thing is clear: if Jeff Flake wants a friend in politics, he’d better buy a dog.

    Even the dog hates all flake.

  184. NYCmike says:

    “I was 100 percent right to vote for neither of them.”

    Supreme Court would be gone, more and more regulations would be strangling American business, etc, etc….but “CG” has not thought one iota about a different vote.

  185. Tina says:

    Yup terrible due to spending cuts, cuts in f work force, debt cut, and illegals being sent home

    The never trumpers are frauds. Take navaroo with tou to the buffet

  186. CG says:

    I never said Rand Paul was not a conservative on economic issues and when he ran for reelection, I never advocated that he be defeated. So, that is a fundamental difference.

    You ought to know the foreign policy/national security differences I have with Paul and that many others have as well.

    The hypocrisy was with you claiming to be a conservative and saying Flake was not. Now, you are at least willing to admit you may be wrong, so that’s that.

    If you do not think politicians need to prove unyielding personal loyalty towards Donald Trump, you do not have a reason in the world to hope that Jeff Flake is defeated, because his voting record would be what you want, pretty much across the board.

  187. Tina says:

    Oh, terrible too because gdp went from3 to 4 percent projections per the atlanta fed.

    This despite the jebots obumbker and hitlerynsayunf we can only grow 1.5.

  188. CG says:

    Sorry, I very much like that Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court, but that’s nowhere near enough to buy me off for everything else I believe about the country.

  189. Tina says:

    He should take it a bit further and rescind all excutive orders since bush 41, if they tax, regulate, or spend $$$.

    Bushes were porkers as were the bj ibumblers.

  190. CG says:

    So, now that NYC has become educated about Jeff Flake and his staunchly conservative voting record, I trust he will support him for reelection, especially against someone as heinous as Kelli Ward.

    That’s it for me for now. Carry on.

  191. janz says:

    Maxine Waters Charged with Ethics Violations

    My my….that paradigm of virtue is unethical?

  192. Tina says:

    We need to get rid of many bush 43 proposals.


    Medicare Part d.

    Those are not conservative positions.

  193. Tina says:

    Maxine is vial. The never trumpers would supoort her over trump though. They love vile.

  194. NYCmike says:

    ” Any of those candidates would have defeated Clinton and been a far more conservative and far better person than DJT.”

    -Defeated her not guaranteed.

    More conservative not guaranteed.

    Better person – maybe, but very subjective. The primary voters thought differently than you, obviously.

  195. Tina says:

    I wish maxine dirty waters, eric holder, or eric holdr 2.0 run.

  196. CG says:

    BTW, 204, as it relates to GWB, is very much what Jeff Flake has also said for years and writes about in his recent book.

    I think Flake goes too far on the Bush criticism, but he’s still a very decent person, a staunch conservative, far superior to a liberal Democrat, and is of course completely correct to stand up to Donald Trump and what he represents for the Republican Party and the country.

  197. NYCmike says:

    What did Flake stand up to Trump about?

  198. CG says:

    I meant to say “better President” than “better person” but the latter part is a given.

  199. janz says:

    “if Jeff Flake wants a friend in politics, he’d better buy a dog.”

    Great line, Tina! It made me laugh.

  200. Tina says:

    Bush 41 and 43 seemed like nice people, but lousy and not conservative presidents.

  201. CG says:

    Tina did not write that line. She should at least produce her source.

  202. Tina says:

    Janz, nobody seems to explain why flake is i. Trouble if he is a conservative, i will not give him money this time.

    If he wins and he should win, I will still not give him money.

    I am neverflake.

  203. NYCmike says:

    “I meant to say “better President” than “better person” but the latter part is a given.”

    -Actually, there is even LESS PROOF that anyone would have been a better President.

    They may have rolled over like a Bush would have, getting pulled around by Rove.

  204. CG says:

    It won’t let me link the press release Tina’s plagiarized statement came from.

    It’s from March from American Bridge. Since then, Flake did vote the way you guys wanted on health care.

  205. NYCmike says:

    I am assuming that “CG” thought it wrong to call out both sides down in Charlottesville.

    Is that correct?

  206. CG says:

    The point out the obvious, American Bridge is a liberal SuperPAC. No wonder, Tina did not want to produce her source.

  207. Tina says:

    216 phuq you. I did not plagarize anything, never claimed credit.

    Ask your candidate where her emails are.

  208. Tina says:

    My sentence is my sentence.

    I wrote even the dog hates flake.

  209. CG says:

    Both sides were not equally at fault. What a dumb question.

    All violence and illegal activity is wrong and should be prosecuted, but the person who died was completely innocent and was killed by a Nazi.

  210. NYCmike says:

    “the way you guys wanted on health care.”

    -How did you want them to vote?

    I am not particularly mad at McCain for voting NAY, because I am NOT sure the bill was any better.

    I am mad at McCain for NOT being upfront about his vote with the leadership group that he wanted. He stabbed them in the back with his surprise vote.

  211. Tina says:

    And do not come here to write your sheot how ethical hillary is.

    You are a stooge.

  212. CG says:

    The source that Tina used without quotes, that janz thought she wrote and praised her for is literally a SuperPAC that was built to support Hillary Clinton.

    No wonder they want Flake to lose.

  213. Tina says:

    Mccain ruined mitchie. Mitchie is a gravely injured dog. I guess, for that, we are on the same team.

    Mitchie is a con artist, as are the bushes.

  214. janz says:

    Tina, each to their own. My dislike goes more in the direction of John McCain, in that he seems like a faux maverick to me. As for Flake, I don’t care one way or the other, although, like you, am unimpressed with the woman running against him.

  215. Tina says:

    You praised a person who defended a rapist. You are scum.

  216. CG says:

    McCain had telegraphed his vote on “skinny repeal.” If not for him, the vote would not have even come up.

    And Doug Ducey, the Arizona Governor, whom Trump praised at the rally, was against it and asked McCain and Flake to vote no. McCain did and Flake did not.

  217. NYCmike says:

    “All violence and illegal activity is wrong and should be prosecuted, but the person who died was completely innocent and was killed by a Nazi.”

    -Did I say otherwise about the woman killed?

    Was Trump wrong to condemn all violence?

    Did Trump try to excuse the woman’s death?

  218. Tina says:

    Janz, i am sad that mccain is ill. Wiith that said, we can upgrade in arizona. However, i do not see us holding on tomflakes seat, even iff he wins the primary. I hope to be wrong. Maybe, mcstuffin, a true conservative, can run.

  219. janz says:

    CG, humor is humor, no matter where it came from. It just brought a little levity to the blog.

  220. NYCmike says:

    “McCain had telegraphed his vote on “skinny repeal.””

    -I guess that is why McConnell, Rubio, etc were so surprised….

  221. Tina says:

    I would be very surprised that flake holds in with an 18 percent approval in az, 21 among drats. Mccain has higher support among ds, is, and ra., support that flake lacks, for some apparent reason.

  222. CG says:

    It seems like he tried to excuse it. That was not the right form to try to divert. He needed to be specific about what happened.

    It’s just like how he put out a Holocaust statement with no mention of Jews.

    Evil has to be called by its name. Obama was wrong to not want to call out Islamic jihadists and Trump has gone out of his way to not call out white nationalists, until he is forced to read a teleprompter, and then whenever he gets away from the teleprompter, makes it clear he doesn’t really view them as the problem.

  223. janz says:

    It’s difficult to see Arizona going to the dems. Aren’t there several other people interested in running in the R primary, along with Flake, other than “what’s-her-name?”

  224. Tina says:

    Rubio did turn his head down. Mccain never told mitchie. I dspsise mitchie, but would not have done what mccain did. It was all drama. The manner in which he went to the floor, and gestured down. Rubio then put his head down, as did mitchie.

    Totally unprofessional.

    With that said, Imwish no ill will on Mxxain. I voted for him to be the doormat in 2008. That was a terrible campaign.

  225. CG says:

    They shouldn’t have been surprised (and I doubt they were). McCain said on the Senate floor two days before that he would vote against the bill as currently constructed.

    People need to pay attention to things that actually get said.

  226. Tina says:

    He was a sitting duck since bush 43 blew up the economy.

    The 2 leftist rs 41 and 43 nearly destroyed the r partty nationally.

    Thankfully, no. More bushes, unless they can oush jebs son. No wonder he moved from fl to tx.

  227. CG says:

    So, once again, now that NYC realizes that Jeff Flake is actually a true conservative, my work is done, and maybe he can think those things out more clearly in the future.

    Have a good day.

  228. Tina says:

    I am glad that trump is returning the r party back to reagan on foreign affairs.

    41 and 43 were not folloeing reagan period.

  229. CG says:

    Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall


    Mr. Putin, Build Up My Tower

    Sure thing.

  230. Tina says:

    Ward is no good, arapaio is no good. The drat az senator seems strong,, janz. At 18 percent, i ghope we can hold that seat, whomever runs.

  231. Tina says:

    Whp,paid for the dossier, hillary or jeb bush?

    Who imdicated i was allowed into putins sanctuary.

    Who had stock from a russian front group?

    Who supported the nazi gubment of ukraine?


  232. Tina says:

    Another muh russian loon.

  233. NYCmike says:

    “Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall


    Mr. Putin, Build Up My Tower

    Sure thing.”


    You clearly have not looked critically at your vote (or non-vote) between Trump and Hillary AT ALL.

  234. Tina says:

    Trump presser.

    Triggered losers.

  235. Tina says:

    Rather than ask questions about the texas disaster, press is asking about arpaios pardon. Trump answers by re directing the press to look at the cash for pardons under the rapist and obumblers pardons of re offenders.

  236. janz says:

    “Trump has gone out of his way to not call out white nationalists,”

    Years ago Trump gave damning comments about white nationalists in a Matt Lauer interview. I really don’t think his less intense comments, following Charlottesville, telegraphed a change of that opinion. In fact the message conveyed was placing the blame on all the violent acts taking place in Charlottesville, including the loss of three lives.

  237. Tina says:

    Blam, i did not pardon a criminal or a terrorist.

    People will be triggered.

    Bush 41 pardon iran contra people who were indicted. He never oet the legal process go.

    43 phuqed up by not pardoning libby. Too bad that the reporter changed her testimony after scooter was convicted.

  238. Tina says:

    Reporter Juan Roberts asked why he pardoned Sheriff Joe. He explains he’s a good man, etc., then pulls out a piece of paper and says Let’s talk about previous pardons. He then brinks up Mark Rich and several other criminals pardoned by Clinton and Obama. This was not planned, but it couldn’t have been more perfect!!! LOLOL

  239. CG says:

    So, if everything Trump said during his 1999 interviews as a prospective candidate of the Reform Party should be operable and adequate today as to his true feelings and beliefs, without a need to re-state anything, that sure means that you people voted for an unapologetic liberal.

  240. Tina says:

    I am sorry, that should have had QUotes around it, per hillarys defender.

  241. Tina says:

    You voted for hilkary, obody cares.

  242. Tina says:

    This presser is hilarious. Teump was easily prepared for the pardon question, he took out a note and read throu pardons.

    Remember, jebots and people like rich want to impeach him for using the presidential power of pardon.

  243. Tina says:

    We can only pardon people if we get cash or if tehy re offend.

    Bj, obama presser on pardons..

  244. Tina says:

    President again threatens to walk away from nafta.


  245. Tina says:

    Trump,called chelsea manning a he. Uh oh.

  246. janz says:

    #251 I voted for the republican nominee, period. Any conservative credentials Trump many or may not have had were certainly unproven when he won that nomination. It has been only after the last 6 months that he has shown more conservative trending in the members of his cabinet chosen, his SCOTUS pick, disarming many regulations foisted upon the business community by the prior administration, more discretion in the EPA demands, etc.

  247. CG says:

    I am saying that if his long-ago 1999 denunciation of David Duke in the Matt Lauer interview was good enough (in 2016 he claimed to not have ever heard of Duke)than what he said in 1999 about supporting European-style single payer healthcare has to be true as well.

  248. Tina says:

    All we need is the speaker blob aka hastert the pedophile to declare that we are not rebuilding la or texas.

  249. Tina says:

    No questions on the short presser about racist statues or muh russian. Jebots depressed.

  250. janz says:

    Re: the over all impact and influence of all the white nationalist’s groups, the SPLC has estimated their national membership to be 6000. OTOH, antifa is estimated to be 200,000 strong. Which group then, just in sheer numbers and incidents of violence, has been more damaging to the country? In fact, by not marginalizing a faded, marginalized group like the white nationalists, the media and the left are actually giving this hateful group a shot in the arm to grow their membership, by giving them more legitimacy than their pathetic membership deserves.

  251. Tina says:

    What the jebot fails to,tell you is that he broke from the reform party because of daviv duke. He was briefly tied to it. He supoorted w for president.

    I care about his policies and so far they have been suprisingly conservative. Illegals being rounded up, respect for law and order, debt cut, spending cuts, gorsuch, and strong economy.

    But, in jebot land, hillary is better because she is a better person.

  252. Tina says:

    Very questionable if quittens or jebrah would have given us gorsuch. However, we would not have gotten the debt cut or the reg cuts. Paris treaty would have continued. Jebrah and quittens, the architect of obumblercare, were liberal rs.

  253. janz says:

    CG, the 2016 David Duke exchange was overplayed, IMO. In fact, some say Trump didn’t either hear or understand the initial question.

    Putting that aside, and regarding his single payer stance — I think at one time he didn’t believe single payer was a bad idea. Trump is not an ideologue. His opinions and stances are fluid and change as things change around him. I’m neither condoning nor condemning his less than solid stances because that’s simply how Trump engages with the issues — looking at everything as being negotiable and not etched in stone.

  254. CG says:

    When Trump spoke of the Hurricane damage in Texas, was he also sure to speak about the devastation of blizzards and earthquakes there as well, so there would be no doubt that he opposes natural disasters from all sides?

  255. CG says:

    We fought a war against the Nazis janz. It was kind of important. They caused a lot of damage to Americans and people around the world.

    Let us know when “Antifa” kills someone and we can all make sure that anyone responsible is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law or executed as a terrorist.

  256. CG says:

    Jeb Bush happened to speak out during the primary campaign on several occasions against the Paris Accords (frankly, I think they were mostly symbolic and staying or going has no real effect)

    John Kasich, whom Tina claims to have supported and whom others said was more conservative than Jeb Bush, is the one who opposed getting out of the Paris Accords, so clearly there is some hypocrisy if anyone claims to care about this issue.

    Nonetheless, I would be very supportive of John Kasich running as a third party candidate or Independent candidate if Trump is somehow re-nominated by Republicans.

  257. CG says:

    Trump said in 2016 that he believed Single Payer was a good idea, so it was not just in 1999.

    He’s been more consistent on that than he has been in denouncing the Klan.

  258. janz says:

    Being the damage in Texas is being caused by a hurricane evolving into a tropical storm, not blizzards and earthquakes, Trump was on topic. Now if there had been blizzards and earthquakes involved in the Texas chaos — like there was multiple groups involved in the Charlottesville tragedy — then all the natural elements creating the current disaster in Texas should have been given credit.

  259. Tina says:

    The jebot is triggered. Please link to,his support of single payer in 2016.

  260. CG says:

    The damage in Charlottesville (i.e. death and injuries) was caused solely and completely by the people who put on the event, (neo-Nazis)

  261. Tina says:

    No real effect. Lol. That is jebot lingo that we should not have gotten out.

    So, if no big deal, the fact that we got out shoukd have been no big deal, right?

  262. Tina says:

    I hope hillary runs. I bought her book. She is a better person. I have a blog.


  263. Tina says:

    Asked on “Morning Joe” whether he supported single-payer, he said: “No, but it’s certainly something that in certain countries works. It actually works incredibly well in Scotland. Some people think it really works in Canada. But not here, I don’t think it would work as well here.”

    He said two days later at a GOP debate: “As far as single-payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.”

    Lol, twice he says no.

  264. janz says:

    The nut job who drove into the Charlottesville protesters was just that — a nut job — who happened to ID himself with the white nationalists. The same thing could be said about the “nut job” — a Bernie Sanders volunteer, and numerous times visited the antifa chat rooms — and was set on killing as many R’s as possible as they practiced for a charity baseball game. He almost murdered Scalise. But, his affiliation with the dem party and hate groups was downplayed, while his mental instability was highlighted, as it should have been — another case of a “Nut job.”

  265. Tina says:

    Janz, it seems like he is on top of the texas hurricane, great flood. Unlike, president bush with brownie. Bush failed tomdefend himself. Granted the response should have been better, the first local, state, response failed.

  266. CG says:

    If he thinks it works “incredibly well” anywhere, it means he supports Socialism.

    (It doesn’t)

    And as janz says, nothing he says is etched in stone. He will come out for single payer socialized medicine in a second if he thinks it will benefit him.

    His completely and utter failure to repeal and replace Obamacare with his incoherence on the issue and talking about how “mean” the Republican bill was perhaps means he really is trying to get to single payer in the future, just like the left wants.

  267. Tina says:

    The nut job may have a defense. On drugs, or panicked because of the antifa mob.

    And there is no,way to,defend antifa or the kkk. Condemn both, antifa is a growing threat. Kkk is a dying threat.

  268. CG says:

    The nut job seems to have a lot of friends and they seemed to like what Trump said in response.

    Maybe Trump should have just blamed it on a ” Nazi nut job” instead of “many sides” and he would not have had that problem.

    All the times Obama seemed to minimize Islamic jihadism, such as Ft. Hood was meant by complete condemnation on the right, but yet you have a completely different standard for Trump. What would you have said if Obama talked about “the conditions” that led Islamic terrorists to act the way they did and the “many problems on many sides for a long, long time.”

  269. Tina says:

    No, mitchie failed. 7 years we were promised to repeal onumblercare. 7’years of lies, just to win elections. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. And people will be primaried.

  270. Tina says:

    He condemend all sides and said kkk were vile.

    He did it twice. Your friend never comdemended the jihadis. And your other friend was a founder of the jihadis.

  271. CG says:

    The left-wing politics of the shooter in Virginia were widely mentioned. No elected Democrat was dumb enough to try to make excuses for him or to bring up the “many sides” argument. If they had, they should have been roasted for it.

  272. Tina says:

    AND before bl claims thst trump,should not have answered the arpaio presseer, the media, john roberts, i beleive, asked the question. Trump pulled out the list of pardons by obumbler and clintune. So, the new team prepped him well. Ery effective tool.

    Bush 41 does deserve criticims for his pardon of the iran contra officials since he never allowed the porcess to go through.

  273. Tina says:

    Media killed that story in a few days. Nobody went after all white rally sanders about it.

  274. CG says:

    I don’t think Bush 41’s pardon of Weinberger was wrong, given the circumstances, but I guess the new rule for Trump is that anything any President may have done that was wrong or a mistake before, he gets to do too!

  275. janz says:

    The guy behind the Charlottesville rally, Unite the Right organizer Jason Kessler, has a murky political past — being an activist for Obama, attending occupy Wall Street events, and then suddenly turning into a flaming white nationalist. He reminds me of the creepy guys employed by HRC, to disrupt Trump rallies — Crammer was one of the guys. Anyway, Kessler has called himself a “professional provocateur.” And, provoke a hate-filled event is certainly what he did!

  276. Tina says:

    Bush 43 failed to,pardon libby. Cheney was right. It is too bad the reporter changed her story well,after the conviction. Too bad that they wasted all the time on it since ms. Pla,e was leaked out by powells staffer. Powell sat on that too.

  277. CG says:

    Bernie Sanders denounced the shooter and his violence in no uncertain terms without even giving a hint of trying to bright conservatives into the conversation in regards to fault.

    The people in Charlottesville, the Nazis, the Klan, the alt-righ, were marching in the name of Donald Trump. They were carrying his signs and chanting slogans for him. They were telling the media they were marching to support Trump (and no that does not mean other pro-Trump rallies are complicit. Not even close. We are speaking about this particular one and these particular organizers) That should have been all the more motivation for Trump to denounce them right off the bat.

  278. Tina says:

    No, 41 did not allow the process to go through. He ended it before a trial and convinction.

  279. Tina says:

    The people in Charlottesville, the Nazis, the Klan, the alt-righ, were marching in the name of Donald Trump. They were carrying his signs and chanting slogans for him. They were telling the media they were marching to support Trump (and no that does not mean other pro-Trump rallies are complicit. Not even close. We are speaking about this particular one and these particular organizers) That should have been all the more motivation for Trump to denounce them right off the bat.


  280. CG says:

    Kessler is an avowed, unapologetic Trump supporter. Do you mean to say he really isn’t? Maybe you might not be either then.

  281. CG says:

    This is the Alex Jones argument (who Trump is in contact with regularly) that the Nazis in Charlottesville were Jewish actors and looked like “the cast of Seinfeld.”

  282. Tina says:

    The other oardons were exchanged over money, see bj.

    Or offenders that re offended, see obama.

    Ultimately, however, the power to pardon is up to the president.

    One cannot be impeached for utilizing it to pardon an 85 year old grandpa who has hispanic grandchildren. But call,him a racist.

  283. Tina says:

    Kessler is strange, going from ibama supoorter to kkk. Supporting, up until recently, obumblers positions.


  284. Tina says:

    Ryano can hate the pardon, but it is sour grapes for his failure to lead. He never will be president and will never have that power.

  285. CG says:

    There’s not a conspiracy theory available that Trump apologists will not seek to cling to.

    This has been an interesting excursion to the newest Island.

  286. Tina says:

    You believe in. Conspirwcies, muh russian.

    His background could be something or it could be nothing, from an investigative, non political standpoint.

    Now carry on how hillary is a better person because…

  287. Tina says:

    And younare aloin for believing in muh russian


  288. Tina says:

    Trump tower russia is why hillary lost.


  289. janz says:

    “No elected Democrat was dumb enough to try to make excuses for him or to bring up the “many sides” argument. “

    The dems hardly said anything about how their left wing rhetoric might have caused this mentally fragile man to go off the deep end. The dems, instead, mused about “unity” for a day or two and then went off again on Trump and the R’s being fascists etc.

    Furthermore, no excuses were uttered by Trump or anyone else regarding the part that white nationalists played in the Charlottesville debacle. The criminal part the dems (and you:, though, keep chewing on is that antifa was also included in Trump’s condemnation comments. And, for my part, I’m glad everyone creating the turmoil was included in those remarks.

    In fact had people simply turned their backs on the Nazi/KKK fiasco, not giving their lunatic behavior any attention, how much of the ensuing violence and death would have happened? Or, had the police seen that opposing groups didn’t cross paths, would anyone have been injured or killed? What about that stand down order given from VA officials — did that alone become an ignition switch for people to escalate the violence that ended as it did?

  290. NYCmike says:


    As I said, you have NOT critically looked at your vote for Hillary (or non-vote, if you say) AT ALL.

    You are already saying you will NOT vote for Trump in 2020, even though it is only August 2017.

    Any actions he has already taken (judges, regulations, EO’s, legislation), or will take in the future, will NOT be looked at by you.

  291. NYCmike says:

    “This has been an interesting excursion to the newest Island.”

    -Simply sad.

    “CG” totally ignored the comments about media questions about Arpaio, and totally ignores the media’s attempts to help Democrats (and some Republicans) attack and damage the President.

    The odd part is that they did the same to Bush, and I am sure “CG” was aware they did it.

    YET, now when the media goes after Trump, he sees no problem with it, because…….Trump……

  292. NYCmike says:


    Be careful.

    The fact that you point out that NO VIOLENCE would have taken place if Antifa did NOT show up means that you support the KKK and the neo-Nazis.

  293. CG says:

    You apparently do not understand the meaning of the word Never.

    Never Trump


  294. NYCmike says:


    I wonder what you think – would Trump be a better Mayor for Chicago than Rahm Emanuel?

    I know Trump thought Rudy was a very good Mayor, and since the problems are similar, Rudy would have been a good advisor……..

  295. janz says:

    Tina, IMO Kessler is how he described himself — “a professional provocateur,” or a “gun for hire” by anyone, or any party who wants to create a crisis event.

  296. NYCmike says:

    “You apparently do not understand the meaning of the word Never.

    Never Trump”


    Not even a shred of reflection on past events, what would have happened had Hillary become President…..

  297. janz says:

    #306,, That’s why you don’t put antagonistic ingredients together — oil and water, sugar in the gas tank etc. — unless you want or accept the possibility that something bad is going to happen.

    During the AZ rally last week, for example, the police did good police work, keeping opposite sides separated and at bay from each other. And, no harm came to anyoone.

  298. NYCmike says:

    “CG” must not care about the First Amendment at all, since the “peaceful” Antifa is the only group actively trying to stifle that freedom.

    “CG”, why are you anti-First Amendment?

  299. Tina says:

    Janz, the jebots know kessler isma strange fellow. His background is being investigated because he coukd be the target of any civil rights violation.

    So, his backround from an investigative standpoint, is important.

    However, when you believe that hillary is a better person and you work in an airport, you know…

  300. Tina says:

    And ryano and mccain never called out obama for his pardons. The jebots always give the benefit of the doubt for hillary, bj, and obama, always,

  301. MikeP says:

    Watching the evening news in Houston, they were showing how bad Spring TX was getting hit by high water. Spring is in north of Houston proper. Got to be rough for and his family

  302. MikeP says:

    Sorry I meant I was referring to Phil’s area

  303. Tina says:

    Thanks, mikep. Hopefully, phil communicates with us soon.

  304. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Rick Scott(R) and incumbent Dem. Nelson nearly tied in 2018 FL Senate race.

  305. Cash Cow TM says:

    Phil needs to give a report as to his well being…

  306. Cash Cow TM says:

    Been helping Walt work all day doing chores while the Missus is away.

    While you all argue about this and that…


    Agents discover hidden tunnel near Mexico border…

    23 Chinese nationals caught…


  307. Tina says:

    This is anever trump. Ted liu ,e,ber of house praised her for her fake news.

  308. Tina says:

    Fox News @FoxNews
    Bill Bennett: Compared to the people pardoned by the last two presidents, “[Former Sheriff Joe Arpaio] is virtually guiltless.”

    Bill benett slams bush and obama?

  309. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina still does not get it. She could list 1000 pardons of people who should not have been pardonned and I might agree with her. That is completely irrelevant to my opinion. I don’t keep a balance sheet. Clinton and Obama pardonned people who should not have been pardonned. Trump should not have pardonned Arpaio. Both can be true.

  310. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m glad CG is back. Actual debates are better than the 100 “stupid moron” posts we were getting.

  311. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope that there is no primary challenger to Trump in 2020. I don’t want to be faced with the possibility of breaking my “never vote for a primary challenger over an incumbent” streak.

  312. wvally says:

    I’m glad CG is back.


    Timing is suspicious…

  313. Bitterlaw says:

    Before NYC starts his list of absurd hypotheticals, I will vote for Trump in 2020 if he runs as the GOP nominee. I will then rejoice that I never have to vote for that scumbag again.

  314. Bitterlaw says:

    WV – I prefer disagreements to echoes.

  315. wvally says:

    You know how left wing media has driven ppl to support Trump in rxn? I’m starting to think Trump apologetics on HHR has driven Bitter in the opposite direction

  316. wvally says:

    I was kidding B no way is Trump CG. Funny how one disappeared and the other reappeared tho.

    And discourse w actual thoughts >>> ad hominem in my book

  317. Bitterlaw says:

    Not at all. I hate leftists. I hate Trump. Always did. Always will. However, Trump is not Hillary so I have to endure him as better than the alternative.

  318. Tina says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 28, 2017 at 9:35 pm
    Tina still does not get it. She could list 1000 pardons of people who should not have been pardonned and I might agree with her. That is completely irrelevant to my opinion. I don’t keep a balance sheet. Clinton and Obama pardonned people who should not have been pardonned. Trump should not have pardonned Arpaio. Both can be true.

    This was not directed at you, this is what trump did in the presser.

    Bitching about pardons is a wasted exercise. The president has the power to do so and many times it is not appropriately used. Impeaching the oresident over that is beyondd dumb.

  319. wvally says:

    Well that’s true, you called him a scumbag plenty before the election.

  320. Tina says:

    It is ine power I wished all presidents, regardless of affiliation, has. However, one must follow the constituion, or try to impeach the president om a power reserved to the president.

  321. Bitterlaw says:

    I would not impeach him. He had the right to do it. It was not the choice I would have made but Trump made it.

  322. Tina says:

    I wish no presidents had thst power.

  323. Tina says:

    And he only answered that question because it was asked in the presser.

    They asked him, he pulled out his card, and went through the list.

    He could have and should have added bush 1 with his pardons of those indicted as part of iran contra. It is worse in that regard since 41 did not allow the judicial process to work.

  324. wvally says:

    It’s kind of funny some Rs got duped into saying positive things about Antifa. It’s as if they only get their news from MSM and had no idea Antifa have been violent freaks for many months on end.

  325. Tina says:

    It is scary that they had no idea.

    I beleive you wvally, but still no excuse

  326. Tina says:

    So the violence on many sides is now more palatable. I looked at it as drat on drat violence, kkk vs antifa.

    Let them have at it.

  327. Tina says:

    The correct answer

    Blame both sides.

    Incorrect answer

    The original drats, the media rs, the jebots, etx.

    Antifa are saints.

  328. SusyQue says:

    I can’t believe ooo and George Soros they control the news. A man drives into a group of non-believer and its the big news. But what about when a black guy stabs a nice white man? Read this. May God help us all. Amen!

  329. NYCmike says:

    So, everyone, except Bitterlaw and “CG”, now decry violence on both sides.

  330. Tina says:

    Looks like bob corker, failed tn senator, leaked a letter to cnn about dos budget cuts involving redundant positions and ses.

  331. Bitterlaw says:

    How about we compromise? Immediately after Charlottesville, Trump should have condemned the violence of both sides and the MURDER committed by only one side -the white supremacists.

  332. NYCmike says:

    Can we get a translator in aisle #346 please?!?

  333. NYCmike says:

    #347 – sounds good.

  334. NYCmike says:

    I thought he addressed the individual who drove the car into a crowd, but i could be mistaken.

  335. Bitterlaw says:

    More lies by NYC. I always condemned violence on both sides. Why does he need to lie about me?

  336. SusyQue says:

    And Thank You to Joel Osteen, a great person for opening his Church to save so many people even if they do not believe. Thank you Mr. Osteen!

  337. Tina says:

    Where is his first statement, full text, not cnns version or never trumoeters version.

  338. NYCmike says:


    What lies?

    We had a whole discussion about how Trump should have handled things – you wanted separate announcements.

  339. Trump says:

    That’s not what you said, as$hole.

    You had a stupid 2-step process.

  340. Bitterlaw says:

    Antifa is a violent group. The white supremacists, neo Nazis, and KKK are violent groups. Any attemp to say one is worse is being an apologist for the others.

  341. wvally says:

    I thought Bitter was explaining the pr strategy that would have worked better.

  342. Tina says:

    Whats to transkate, it is clear ny. Dos department of state a bloated federal agency.

    Ses, special envoys.

  343. Trump says:

    Shall I cut and paste your asinine 2-step process again, liar?

  344. wvally says:


  345. SusyQue says:

    It is amazing that John McCain receives $72,000 from the government to treat his brain tumor. But he can get up and fly 3,000 miles to vote to take away health insurance from regular people. Donald Trump has a right to be made at John McCain!

  346. Bitterlaw says:

    The 2 Step process was for political and public relations strategy. You still are to stupid to get it.

  347. Trump says:

    Bitter as$ Es endorsing the stupid Romney comment.

    Need another cut and paste storm to remind the morons?

  348. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Trump returns to own the overnight shift.

  349. Trump says:

    Caught protecting the fascists. The stupid lawyer still trying to peddle strategy.

    The only strategy you have is anti-trump.

    Even if it means endorsing fascist riots.

    You learn well from Tweedledumber and Tweedledumber, McCain and Romney.

  350. Bitterlaw says:

    Post away. Everybody else understood what I said. Every time you claim a different interpretation, you embarrass yourself.

  351. Trump says:

    Lying piece of cra$ gets caught in his massive trump derangement.

  352. Tina says:

    It appears that thepositiinnthat antifa are heros, jeb bush, az twins, rubio, et al is dwindling in numbers.

  353. Trump says:

    Claims some kind of brilliant strateg.

  354. Tina says:

    Corker months ago

    “Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had strong words for special envoys in July. He said:

    [Special envoys] hurt the culture of our professional foreign service officers candidly because I think they see them in many cases as a workaround … I hope that we’ll do away with all of them that are unnecessary. And I think most of them are unnecessary”

    Corker now, keep them, leaks to cnn about tillersons letter.

    Corker is a failed senator.

  355. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw went to the mat for a PR strategy, instead of just defending the President, who called out violence on all sides.

    Bitterlaw fell for the media narrative that Trump did something wrong, instead of looking at Trump’s statement and judging it on its own merits.

  356. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzz. Post away. I’m sure you will edit what does not fit your script. I will read your 30 posts in the morning. I set the over/under on the word “stupid” in your posts at 23.

  357. Tina says:

    And no way is tillerson leaving. He wants to downsize the dos.

  358. Trump says:

    It seems the only person honest enough is Trump.

    Righ from the first go.

    As$holes like Romney, mccatoin, Rubio and the stupid moron bl more intent on protecting fascist rioters.

  359. Bitterlaw says:

    I will take the over.

  360. Trump says:

    The lying pus$y can’t stand his lies being exposed.

  361. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC lies again. I did not say Trump was wrong. I said he could have delivered a more effective statement.

  362. Tina says:

    Maybe as 2018 gets closer, countey club corker will act more like a comservative, just to win the election.

  363. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru – Cut and paste away.

  364. Tina says:

    See if you had done like me and pres. Trump, you would have been right. The punk now says so.

  365. Trump says:

    “I liked Romney’s statement.”

    Presumably the one asking to apologize to rioters.

    Fuc King liar.

  366. Trump says:

    Has Romney said a word about the Berkeley rioters?

    Cannot criticize his friends, apparently

  367. Trump says:

    Bashing and killing cops works for Romney and McCain.

  368. Trump says:

    McCain thinks fascists are “those fighting hate”. Smashing and killing cops is “fighting hate”.

    Brain damaged moron,

  369. NYCmike says:


    This was a concerted effort by the media and VA Democrats. Once they got violence from the “alt-right” it would not have mattered what Trump said.

    It was always the visuals the media was after.

    You are unable to admit they, the media and Democrats, are in collusion to damage the duly elected President of this country.

  370. SusyQue says:

    It’s so nice to see God fearing Christians saving all these people in the bad neighborhoods, even that they do not believe!

  371. Trump says:

    As always, trump was 100 percent right.

    The butt hurt tds sufferers hardest hit.

  372. Walt says:

    Hey, SusyQue!

    Looking good typing there in your bathrobe.
    Hubba Hubba.
    How YOU doing?

  373. Cash Cow TM says:


    I miss MFG.
    I enjoyed his posts…

  374. Trump says:

    Michael Moore: Trump on track to win again

    Cruising to re-election.

  375. Wes says:

    I wouldn’t base whether or not Trump is cruising to reelection on what Michael Moore says. While Moore was right in predicting Trump would win last year, Moore also claimed Romney would beat Obama in 2012.

    Also, Carter and Hoover looked invincible at this point in 1977 and 1929 respectively. They went on to lose spectacularly.

    Trump may yet win, but 2020 is three years away. It’s far too early to declare him the victor given the inherent volatility of American politics.

  376. Tina says:

    Way too far out for that.

  377. Bitterlaw says:

    Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. Find a post where I have ever denied that the media does not want to damage Trump. Just one. Hint – You won’t find one.

    Are you so insecure that you need me to post that I love Donald Trump? I don’t. He is a scumbag. I voted for him because Hillary was worse. If the election was today, I would still vote for him over her. He would still be a scumbag.

  378. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry. I meant find a post where I denied the media wants to damage Trump. I only woke up to see how Poster Trump was doing on his cut and paste job. Pretty lame.

  379. Tina says:

    Berkeley mayor wants to treat antifa like a gamg. I thinkmthe mayor meant domestic terrorists.

    Rubio, ryan, and rinos upset.

  380. Tina says:

    “I think we should classify them as a gang,” said Arreguin. “They come dressed in uniforms. They have weapons, almost like a militia and I think we need to think about that in terms of our law enforcement approach.”

    This is from the left wing mayor of bezerkeley.

    I cannot believe the gop/e does not fet it.

  381. Trump says:

    So the lying weasel slinks away when confronted, and still triggered by Trump.

    Drowning in self-hate, the moron is in early stages of rabies.

  382. Trump says:

    The best thing about Trump is the emotional torture he inflicts on morons like Bitterlaw.

  383. lisab says:

    trump did not specifically denounce the white nationalist hurricane harvey today

    he is obviously a racist for not doing so

  384. Trump says:

    Trump appears to be going to Texas today.

    Watch out for exploding heads.

  385. lisab says:

    harvey has disproportionately flooded neighborhoods with minority populations an those with a low socioeconomic status

    trump has not condemned this fact

    he has gone out of his way to express support for all people affected by the hurricane, not just minorities

    he is obviously racist

  386. Bitterlaw says:

    I went to bed. I could not wait up any longer for you to deliver your promised cut and paste job. I’ve been here for more than 13 years. I never leave.

    While you are looking for my posts, why don’t you post your predictions that Trump would lose the election and take the GOP down in the House and Senate?

  387. Trump says:

    Nobody knows what they are probing, but it’s good to see the thugs twisting in the wind.

    “Dems coming under scrutiny in Russia probe”

    Once again, Trump being 100% right. Uncanny.

  388. Trump says:

    F off , lying weasel. Caught lying like a cheap lawyer. Again.

  389. Trump says:

    Two step approach to evil.

    What a f u c King as$.

    Just another moron getting his panties in a twist, occasioned by massive derangement.

  390. lisab says:

    bitterlaw is not cheap

  391. lisab says:

    trump is probably cruising to victory at this point as moore says

    the dems currently have no obvious leader

    and they may have some pretty off the wall candidates next year … who could win the nomination!

    normally a bernie or warren would pull the party left in a nomination process … in 2020 they could be the centrist choices!

  392. Trump says:

    “Byron York: Next stop for Trump dossier probe: the FBI”

    And their stooge McCain.

  393. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru claims I lied but produces no evidence. Typical.

  394. lisab says:

    Trump Guru claims I lied but produces no evidence.

    matbe he works at the ny times?

  395. lisab says:

    Utah woman gets (at least 3 years) prison for locking her 12-year-old, 30-pound son in a feces-covered bathroom

  396. lisab says:

    Grizzly bears go vegetarian due to climate change, choosing berries over salmon

  397. Bitterlaw says:

    Time for my day job. It will be fun to read Trump’s unsubstantiated claims later.

  398. DW says:

    That didn’t take long…all the global warming alarmists have come back in full force with Hurricane Harvey’s devastation in Texas.

    Never mind the fact that 2005 was one of the worst hurricane seasons on record for the USA, and it brought about all kinds of dire predictions that we had turned a corner and it was too late, Gore was right, doom is here, 2005 was the new norm….except that after 2005, major hurricanes disappeared in the USA until Harvey–12 years later.

    Temps rise and fall, its cold, then hot. Sometimes these cycles can last longer than people’s lifetimes. It is simply the earth’s climate at work–and its beyond man’s ability to add or detract.

  399. Bitterlaw says:

    Vegan bears? Cash Cow will feel safer if she goes to Alaska.

  400. Trump says:

    You know why all the dems are walking back their antifa support?

    2018 elections.

    Their internal polling is devastating.

    Deplorables don’t like fascists.

    If someone could clue in useful idiots like Romney and McCain….

  401. Cash Cow TM says:

    Vegan bears

    grave beans

  402. Wes says:

    Grizzlies are naturally omnivorous. Despite their justifiably fierce reputation, they often seek out food by way of least resistance. Thus, it is not uncommon for them to eschew salmon–which they have to catch–in favor of berries–which they can just pluck with minimal offer.

  403. DW says:

    419 – not to mention the dumpsters with easy to open lids.

  404. JC says:

    You see, there are quite a number of Democratic senators in Congress who are up for re-election next year. Our very own U.S. senator Bob Casey is considered vulnerable being located in a state that voted for President Trump. One of the most vulnerable Democratic senators in Congress is Missouri senator Claire McCaskill. Her state voted for Donald Trump by 57% to Hillary Clinton’s 38%. She has to desperately look as moderate as possible, her Republican attackers will put up ads “Clare’s people think every last one of you is a racist Nazi,” and pair photos of her in ballrooms with Nancy Pelosi set to dramatic music. See how this works?

    This obviously has Democratic strategists in a pickle.

    It’s very obvious what next year will be like. The worst footage from protest demonstrations will be put on display in campaign advertising and all the claims that Democratic pundits and authors have made claiming America is festooned with 64 million gas-chamber-murdering Nazis. Everyone who voted for Donald Trump is a Nazi. They’re all Nazis. Every f***ing last one of them is a motherf***ing Nazi.

    There are few Republicans up for re-election in 2018 who are really vulnerable. Those 64 million Trump voters still have access to ballot machines and they can still vote. Calling every Trump voter a Nazi, as so many of you have done, is not going to be forgotten. That projection is going to come back to haunt people. It terrifies people who actually do politics as part of their career; namely pundits, campaign strategists and party officials.

    Trump voters also won’t forget how the dems spent every waking second trying to orchestrate a coup since the day after the election.

  405. NYCmike says:

    Got in touch with parents from my sons boy scout troop – will be accumulating supplies to send down to Texas – sheets, construction equipment, non-perishable food items, etc.

  406. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Good for you. We should all find ways to help.

  407. NYCmike says:


    Every little bit helps. Many people down there will lose EVERYTHING.

    I can’t believe the sheer number of people who don’t have flood insurance in certain locales.

  408. NYCmike says:

    -I will look to eat at a Waffle House next chance I get to reward them for their preparedness, their compassion, and their long-term outlook.

  409. MikeP says:

    in regard to insurance in Houston, major ins. carriers will not write ins. below I-10 which is the bottom half of the area. This is due to Ike in 2008. Flood ins. from $500/yr. to $10,000/yr around Clear Lake. In Houston proper homes that were above the 100 yr. flood plain were not required to buy flood ins. unfortunately, this is a 500 yr. flood. Since friday League city and Clear Lake area has received 41-44 inches of rain. Rain may end tonight?

  410. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Whenever I see stories like this, I wonder if I should get flood insurance. I do not live in a low-lying area and the nearest rivers are in Philadelphia. Of course, 4–50 inches of rain will make any place a flood area. I will look into it.

  411. DW says:

    428 – I was considering same. I am 12 miles from ocean, but in one of the highest areas of my neighborhood. If I was flooded out, most of Norfolk, Portsmouth, Chesapeake and VA Beach would be under water. I supposed that fact could console me, as though it would never happen…but 500 year floods happen

  412. hugh says:

    I live on a canal a couple houses off the intracoastal in Lauderdale. You must buy flood and wind insurance to have a mortgage. The flood ins there is very limited and would not begin to replace damages for that reason it is not overly expensive. The wind insurance is very expensive and is not written by highly capitalized insurers (8000K). If you have a claim the wind carrier and flood carriers get in a big fight about who pays. Many people without mortgages do not take insurance. Lauderdale for a number of reasons is not subject to the type of storm surges many other coastal areas are subject to even in FL. My guess is the federal gov’t will bailout, to some degree those who did not take the insurance which I think is wrong. Living where their is flooding or risk of tropical storms has its risks.

  413. hugh says:

    8000K per year premium i meant to say

  414. wvally says:

    According to this report an Obama DOJ holdover is blocking progress on Awan case, and Schumer is blocking Trump’s nominee to replace

  415. NYCmike says:


    YET, we have #NEVERTrumpers who still think a non-vote in the Presidential election was the MORAL thing to do.

    They would simply excuse the law-breaking that went on within the Obama administration and within Democratic (and maybe Republican as well) congressional offices because of…….Trump.

  416. NYCmike says:

    h/t Instapundit:

    FRTIZ LODGE: Israel and Hezbollah Eye Their Next War.

    On August 15, Israel’s Channel 2 news revealed satellite photos of an Iranian missile production facility near the town of Baniyas in northwestern Syria, capable of producing long-range rockets. Iran’s formidable military presence in Syria is nothing new, but the revelation of this production facility underlines how deeply the war in Syria has changed the balance of military power in the eastern Mediterranean.

    Faced with the possible collapse of Syrian President Bashar al Assad’s regime, Iran and its regional proxies have poured millions of dollars and thousands of soldiers into its Syrian ally. Now, with Russian help, that investment has paid off, and the regime has reestablished control over much of central Syria, and is stabilizing the front along “de-confliction zones” guaranteed by Russia, Turkey, and Iran.

    This is a problem for Israel. As the battle lines in Syria begin to stabilize, Iran and its allies will be able to focus more energy and attention on the Jewish state. Nowhere is this threat clearer than in Lebanon, where the Iran-allied and financed group of Hezbollah boasts thousands of soldiers, deep political influence in the Lebanese government, and an arsenal of up to 150,000 rockets.

    Israel perhaps will pay the largest price for Obama’s dithering over Syria and his execrable deal with Iran.

  417. jason says:

    Shame on Bush and Trump for encouraging hate speech.

    “A professor at the University of Tampa has apologised for posting a tweet suggesting Texas victims of Hurricane Harvey deserved the storm because the state supported Donald Trump in the presidential election.

    Ken Storey, a professor of sociology, wrote on Twitter: “I don’t believe in instant karma but this kinda feels like it for Texas. Hopefully this will help them realise the GOP doesn’t care about them.”

  418. jason says:

    YET, we have #NEVERTrumpers who still think a non-vote in the Presidential election was the MORAL thing to do.”

    Why don’t you GFY?

    I never supported any law breaking by Obama and always made clear the Clintons were amoral scum.

    We all have to live with our standards of morality.

    And of course, given your view that statutory rape is a matter of personal conscience, mine were always higher than yours anyway.

  419. jason says:

    Trump appears to be going to Texas today.”

    It’s just a ruse. He is really going to North Korea.

  420. jason says:

    Is it ok to wish the next hurricane wipes out this “professor’s” house in Tampa?

    After all, Florida voted for Trump too.

  421. DW says:

    439 – one of the great disappointments thus far in the 21st century is the effort failed to seize the home and property in New Hampshire of Justice Souter after he ruled such seizures to get more tax revenue was legal.

  422. NYCmike says:

    BUT, “CG” will say Trump is anti-Semitic, and NOT say anything about Hillary, who was Secretary of State under Obama and allowed this situation to develop like this.

    And, he will also go to the mat defending Corker, who did NOTHING to stop the Iran deal.

  423. NYCmike says:

    “given your view that statutory rape is a matter of personal conscience”

    -Well, I needed a good laugh, and jason came through, as usual!

  424. lisab says:

    major hurricanes disappeared in the USA until Harvey–12 years later.

    thank you president obama

    maybe pulling out of the paris accords was not wise

  425. lisab says:

    Trump voters also won’t forget how the dems spent every waking second trying to orchestrate a coup since the day after the election.

    this is why i think the gop establishment is way off base

    they cannot win without the trump supporters

    they only won in the past because the trump supporters were given no choice and so they went along with the nominees like mccain

    but they will not forgive the gop establishment who trash trump, especially if they try to oust him

  426. lisab says:

    “NYC – Good for you. We should all find ways to help.”

    i don’t help red states

  427. NYCmike says:

    “I never supported any law breaking by Obama and always made clear the Clintons were amoral scum.”

    -Which is why I was mainly focused on those voters who are **STILL** virulent #NeverTrumpers and NEVER would vote for President Trump, not even knowing how he will act in the future.

    So GFY for misunderstanding who I was speaking about.

  428. lisab says:

    waffle house has a disaster response team?!!!

    the gap does not even have enough hangers

  429. Waingro says:

    Phil Kerpen?Verified account @kerpen 33m33 minutes ago

    Harper #ALSen:
    Moore 47
    Strange 45
    1 reply 4 retweets 3 likes

  430. NYCmike says:

    -Things you find out in emergencies:

    Help the bats, because they eat the mosquitoes.

  431. lisab says:

    bats are mice with wings

  432. jason says:

    nd, he will also go to the mat defending Corker, who did NOTHING to stop the Iran deal.”

    LOL, Goebbels would be proud, repeat a lie often enough and maybe it will be believed.

    Corker had NOTHING to do with the Iran deal except to expose it for what it was.

    Since it was not deemed a treaty, Corker had no way to “stop it”.

    Elections have consequences. Next time don’t elect Obama.

  433. jason says:

    The waters had stopped rising while Obama was President, but they started rising again with Trump.

  434. NYCmike says:

    “Since it was not deemed a treaty, Corker had no way to “stop it”. ”

    -Yup, repeat it enough, and people will think there is NOTHING that can be done, and will realize that the Founding Fathers left Congress utterly powerless at the hands of the Executive Branch….

    As we both agree in that there was no way for Corker to “stop it”, then why have the kabuki theater dance of trying to look like they were trying to stop it?

  435. NYCmike says:

    “Corker had NOTHING to do with the Iran deal except to expose it for what it was.”

    -Talk about Goebbels…..what exposing did he do?

    Did he use it to club Democrats over the head with the information?

  436. Bitterlaw says:

    We all have to live with our standards of morality.

    You could live with my standards of morality but I have to warn you. There is not much gray area. Only Amos Stoltfuss is more unyielding.

  437. Trump says:

    There was no Iran deal until Corker stepped in.

    Neither Obama nor the iranians would sign any deal without congress lifting sanctions.

    The magic of Corker!! Bringing Obama and the Iranians together!!!

  438. Trump says:

    Iran was negotiating for 15 years to get sanctions lifted. No deal.

    Enter corker and his magic!!!

  439. Bitterlaw says:

    MD did not leave conservatism. It left him.

  440. Trump says:

    No hidden agreement between Obama and the Iranians could have lifted congressional sanctions.

    The corker magic made congressional sanctions disappear.

  441. Trump says:

    Cue the world’s smallest violin.

    The best thing about Trump is kicking morons daily.

  442. GPO says:

    Did MD ever post about Gorsuch , or is he so far gone that he hated that as well

  443. NYCmike says:

    Have to say, seeing as how I am from areas that were hard hit by Sandy – I had NO ISSUE at all with certain people in Congress holding up a pork-laden bill.

    I, as well as my company, received NOTHING from the federal government to compensate for lost business, damages, etc. We pay for our insurance.

    I have friends who had their beach houses flooded, and now their houses are worth twice as much, with only a very small lay-out of funds on their part.

    They laugh and say Sandy will be their ticket to an earlier retirement.

    FEMA, and the federal government, is out of control.

    That said, any $$ needed to quickly and efficiently re-build infrastructure down there should be processed quickly, as long as it goes to affected areas.

  444. NYCmike says:

    I believe he was happy for Gorsuch – most likely said any Republican President would have made a similar choice.

  445. NYCmike says:

    “Don’t “Freedom Caucus” them.”

    -From MD.

    He would still fit in at HHR.

  446. NYCmike says:

    -Wisdom from Prager. This applies to “CG”, and MD:

    “Fighting Nazis in Germany between 1933 and 1945 was an act of moral heroism. Given their negligible numbers and nonexistent power, fighting Nazis in America in 2017 is an act of moral onanism.”

    Good word.

  447. CG says:

    I know you are trolling for a response, and I wasn’t going to give one, but you motivated me to make a donation to the Simon Wiesenthal Center in your “name.”

    and GFY

  448. NYCmike says:

    Should have made it in Prager’s name, and sent him an email at the same time.

  449. lisab says:

    you motivated me to make a donation to the Simon Wiesenthal Center

    well that is good, since their rabbi gave the prayer at trump’s inaugural