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WV: Manchin Ahead in WV

Republicans hoping to pick off a US Senate in West Virginia won’t like this new poll from Repass and Research America.

US SENATE – WEST VIRGINIA (Repass)
Joe Manchin (D-inc) 50%
Evan Jenkins (R) 40%

Joe Manchin (D-inc) 52%
Patrick Morrisey (R) 38%

This poll was done August 11-20 among 400 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 11:20 am
Filed under: General | Comments (1,061)

1,061 Responses to “WV: Manchin Ahead in WV”

  1. Bitterlaw says:

    First

  2. ProgressiveCT says:

    Vote Democratic!

  3. NYCmike says:

    Walt,

    Buck up Mister!

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    Stay true, Walt. Life sucks. You know it. Your dinosaur friends knew it.

  5. Wes says:

    Manchin won reelection by 22 points (61-39) in 2012. He’s now hovering about 50% against two lesser-known rivals. This definitely suggests vulnerability on his part.

    Big picture, Dave.

    You sound like MD when he was telling us last year how poorly Todd Young was doing by trailing Evan Bayh initially by double digits even as Trump was carrying Indiana. Young had to introduce himself to voters and point out how Bayh was incompatible with their values. He did both and won 52-42.

    Since 2018 is a GOP midterm rather than a presidential election where Hillary Clinton makes Dems toxic outside areas already dominated by them, history isn’t guaranteed to repeat. Nonetheless, the results of this poll suggest Manchin may be losing suppott in the Mountaineer State.

  6. Wes says:

    Bitter, I wonder how Walt felt after he came out of his shelter after the asteroid impact and saw all the dinosaurs he’d known for millennia dying around him.

  7. Bitterlaw says:

    It hurt him deeply. That is why his closest friend is Cash Cow. He trusts mammals to survive.

  8. Cash Cow TM says:

    Dave The Wizard posted the WV poll!

    Was it because of what I posted, or just a coinkadink?

  9. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.

  10. Wes says:

    Four years after losing a primary to appointed Senator Brian Schatz, Congresswoman Colleen Hanabusa is now seeking to primary Governor David Ige.

    This leaves her seat open, but I wouldn’t expect the GOP to contest it seriously. Although former Rep. Charles Djou held the seat for eight months from 2010 to 2011, he lost to Hanabusa 47-53 in 2010 despite the national GOP wave.

    He narrowly lost it again in 2012 and 2014, around the same losing a high-profile mayoral race despite the backing of Clinton-era Dem Governor Ben Cayetano.

    The HIGOP is probably the weakest political party in the country–even weaker than the WYDP–and has a grand total of five elected officials in the state, all in the State House. That’s right. The Hawaii Senate is a one-party chamber featuring all Democrats.

    Thus, despite Hanabusa’s somewhat q u ixotic primary challenge to Ige, her seat is nearly certainly safe for her party.

    An interesting tidbit is that since 2013, Hawaii has had the first state congressional delegation with no Christians. Sen. Schatz is Jewish. Sen. Hirono is Buddhist, as is Hanabusa, while Rep. Gabbard is Hindu.

  11. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Southern California is getting rain today. Its from another hurricane that people are not hearing about. Hurricane Lidia has done major damage in southern Baja California. In 1939 a Hurricane hit Long Beach, California, killing at least 45 people. By the time it hit Long Beach it had been downgraded to a tropical storm.

  12. lisab says:

    back in those days people did not get much warning of hurricanes and so may have been totally unprepared for it, thus the 45 death toll

  13. lisab says:

    TUESDAY, DEC 22, 2015 07:15 AM EST

    White men must be stopped: The very future of mankind depends on it

    For 500 years, they’ve exploited their fellow man and plundered the planet. It’s time they rein themselves in

  14. lisab says:

    SATURDAY, SEP 2, 2017 07:00 AM EDT

    Time to give up on identity politics: It’s dragging the progressive agenda down

    Identity politics has only served to disempower the left and fuel the rise of white nationalism. Can we move on?

  15. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    12. “back in those days people did not get much warning of hurricanes and so may have been totally unprepared for it, thus the 45 death toll”

    Very true. In fact after the event the Weather Service established a forecast office for tropical storms in the Pacific.

    Most the deaths listed for the storm were from small boats sinking off the coast. The death toll would have been higher, but two teenage surfers in Newport Beach paddled out into the storm waves and rescued seven people from one overturned boat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZl6-xYtZZg

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    A 21 year old man from my town killed himself. 21 years old and a student at Penn. His obituary had something I have never seen. His parents and several relatives were listed with their graduate degrees. MD, DDS, and JD. That must be a high pressure family where people need to list their degrees.

    lisab to say it is perfectly normal for a grieving family to make sure people know the dead man had doctors for parents, an aunt aunt who is a dentist and an uncle who is a lawyer.

  17. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    California, the progressive paradise that it is, has one of the worst education system in the nation. Recent test scores show only 50% of the students passed the reading exams, and only 33% math.

    A article from several years ago in the Sacramento Bee explained the problem:

    “The latest national academic tests tell us again that California’s public schools aren’t doing a very good job of educating more than 6 million youngsters.

    Once again, California finds itself in the bottom tier, with New Mexico and Alabama, in the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of fourth- and eighth-graders in math and English.

    But if our schools aren’t performing particularly well, those who run the schools are again demonstrating their unmatched ability to make excuses for failure.

    In the past, their rationales have included inadequate financing and having to contend with a student population heavily weighted toward poor and English-learner students.

    But as this year’s results demonstrated anew, those excuses collide with the fact that states with similar demographic profiles and even lower levels of spending, such as Texas, surpass California in NAEP test scores.”

    There are some very successful charter schools in California, with great test scores from students of diverse demographics. But the state’s powerful teachers union hate charter schools, and do everything that can to destroy them.

    You would think that the state’s dominant tech business leadership would be concerned over the state of California’s education system. But these leftist icons import their workers from India and other foreign countries, under conditions that resemble indentured servitude, so they could care less.

  18. janz says:

    Important posts above citing first parental pressure on their kids living up to their family’s educational expectations. The second dealing with public education unions putting their own power, in CA, over the successful education of students. The most hypocritical statement from union leaders is, “it’s all about the kids!”

  19. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The video in the link below is hilarious. Its from the Black Rifle Coffee Company in Salt Lake City, Utah. It makes a mockery of California’s gun control laws. Whats a law abiding criminal to do?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=BYVqmBaqgPU

  20. Walt says:

    Well…in a regionally televised game, WVU lost to VA Tech, but I will say it was an exciting game clear til the end.

    Even if WVU had won, live still sucks bigly.

  21. Jonesy says:

    Happy Labor Day

  22. Tina says:

    Daca gone?

    Totally illegal by president obumbler.

    Ryano against it under obumbler, now for it.

  23. Bitterlaw says:

    Let’s turn the issue of DACA over to the HHR Policy Commission. What should we do with these illegals? I don’t know. Deporting children back to a country that they left possibly as infants seems harsh. Rewarding them with citizenship seems unfair to those already in the process to be citizens.

  24. NYCmike says:

    Need some details first, to make sure got it correct:

    Did Supreme Court rule on this?
    Did congress pass any legislation regarding this?
    Are people automatically deemed illegals again?

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Are people automatically deemed illegals again?

    Ask Joe Arpaio. He knows whether they are illegal just be looking at them.

  26. Diamond Jim says:

    I’d rather listen to fingernails being dragged across a chalkboard than “Reeling In The Years”.

  27. JC says:

    The DACA issue is the perfect leverage Trump can use to force a deal with democrats/RINOs in congress for immigration reform and border funding.

    Of course, that requires a GOP congress that is more interested in passing conservative policy than committing suicide by sabotaging their party’s president in some vain hope of regaining control. So who knows if a deal can be hashed out.

    Republicans have a once in a lifetime chance to pass something both historic and politically beneficial (pleasing their base with immigration reform while granting immunity or even amnesty to the most sympathetic of illegals). The Dreamers issue is vital. In order to make a deal happen, both sides need to come away with a ‘win’ (or at least appear so). We get our immigration reform. They get their Dreamer amnesty.

    Imagine how much the economy will improve with real immigration reform that is not designed around bringing in as many third world poor/unskilled migrants as possible with the singular purpose of befitting the Dem party.

    Now tie that in with tax reform and the gutting of unnecessary regulations, and you have an economy ready to burst open.

    Again though, this requires a competent GOP congress. So while this whole issue (and taxes) should be a politically popular slam dunk, I place the passage of either to be about 50%.

  28. JC says:

    Trump (courtesy of Obama) just placed an incredible bargaining tool in the GOP’s hands. And instead of using it to get virtually everything they want, the leadership is already drafting a DACA replacement that they’ll get nothing out of and will piss of 85% of their base.

    I’ve heard a theory that this ‘conservative DACA’ legislation is being worked on in tandem with the Trump administration as part of an immigration reform deal. But I doubt it. I think the leadership has been lead by their DNC media masters to believe that if they don’t keep DACA intact then they’ll be electorally doomed. Or worse! Be called racist by people who call everyone racist.

    My faith in the GOP congress is virtually nil.

  29. lisab says:

    lisab to say it is perfectly normal for a grieving family to make sure people know the dead man had doctors for parents, an aunt aunt who is a dentist and an uncle who is a lawyer.
    ————————————-

    i would say it is perfectly normal for a grieving family who just lost a 21 year old son to not live up to your standards bitterlaw

  30. lisab says:

    man dies at burning man festival … by burning …

    The Pershing County Sheriff’s Office says the man who died after he ran into the flames of the Burning Man festival’s giant wooden effigy of a man was a U.S. citizen who had a home in Oklahoma but apparently was living in Switzerland with his wife.

    The sheriff’s office also says that attempts to rescue 41-year-old Aaron Joel Mitchell were hampered because part of the structure was falling as they were trying to get Mitchell out of it. The sheriff’s office says: “Rescuers had to leave him to allow the structure to fall and provide for rescuer safety before they could go back into the flames to extract Aaron from the debris.”

  31. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m disappointed in their fellow inmates. These scum should have been zipped by them.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4850744/Husband-wife-plotted-drug-babies-freed.html

  32. Bitterlaw says:

    i would say it is perfectly normal for a grieving family who just lost a 21 year old son to not live up to your standards bitterlaw

    Zzzzzzzz. I read a lot of obituaries. I find them interesting. I never saw the education status of the mourners highlighted.

  33. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Thanks for your answer to my questions. I learned more from your zzzzzzz….…

  34. Cash Cow TM says:

    DACA

    Don’t Ask, Can’t Answer?

    (Yes I actually do know what DACA really stands for)

  35. NYCmike says:

    JC,

    Once again, well stated.

    Start with the Cotton/Perdue bill, and compromise with DACA.

    Negotiating 101.

    But………congress knows better…..how to throw away a wonderful opportunity

  36. NYCmike says:

    Ca$h

    What is up with Walt? Why so down in the dumps?

    Still losing at that card game every week?

  37. lisab says:

    I read a lot of obituaries. I find them interesting.
    ————————–

    and now you are complaining that a grieving familiy did not write an appropriate obituary for their 21 year old son

  38. Walt says:

    Can someone explain to me what that NorK Kim Mentally Ill is thinking with his nuke nuttiness?

    What is his end game…his strategy…?
    Why is he so pi$$ed off with Guam, the U.S.
    Why does he no longer want to live?

  39. lisab says:

    he is thinking he can get away with an awful lot now

  40. lisab says:

    what the trump resistance thinks they look like vs what they are

    https://i.redd.it/u02oib3nhujz.png

  41. NYCmike says:

    Lisab,

    I agree with Bitterlaw. Putting down all of those degrees seems a bit odd. Usually people just put names.

    Degrees, like money, don’t go with you to the next world.

  42. lisab says:

    World Clown Association Complains The Movie ‘IT’ Is Hurting Real Clowns

  43. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – The young man’s obituary stated that he lost a “long a long battle with depression.” He was at one of the top schools the country. I thought it might be a clue into the pressures that he felt when even the obituary had to list relatives’ achievements in a way that I have never seen before.

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    I support the right of clowns to be creepy. I don’t find them scary but I know some people who are freaked by them.

  45. lisab says:

    Repeating radio signals from a mysterious source in a dwarf galaxy 3 billion light-years away have been detected by astronomers.

    Since their discovery over 15 years ago, almost two dozen FRBs have been recorded. Most often, they are one-off events, but in 2016 scientists announced in the journal Nature that they had found a repeating radio signal—FRB 121102. By monitoring and tracking this repeating burst, they were able to trace it back to a dwarf galaxy 3 billion light-years away. Still, the source remained elusive. Nothing that we know of in that region of space could be producing these signals.
    —————————————-

    from a dwarf galaxy?

    http://images.indianexpress.com/2016/04/tyrion-quotes2_820.jpg?w=820

  46. Walt says:

    NYC,

    To answer your query…Don’t Ask, Can’t Answer.

    Except to say:
    –the world seems to be coming apart at the seams
    (at least during the cold war people were not lopping other people’s heads off and plowing into crowds with vehicles)
    –the nation is in terrible turmoil
    –both major parties are in turmoil
    –my state is in dire financial shape
    –my church is in turmoil
    –most of societies institutions are disintegrating
    –the national and local drug epidemic is horrific (we get many dozens of overdoses a day here locally in out little county and overdose deaths here weekly are now run of the mill)
    –people seem to have lost their minds s to their value and beliefs and irrationality rules the day
    –my sister’s health is in decline
    –brother recently diagnosed with lung cancer that has spread to his liver (not good diagnosis)
    –youngest (troubled) son 5 weeks ago lost his $65,000/yr. job because he failed his drug test (and I am pretty resigned to accepting the fact that I must not have been a very good father in regard to him) Oh, and he recognizes and complains how drugs has ruined his life, but refuses to go into treatment.
    –though I am in good shape health-wise and financially things on a personal level look bleak
    –I am personally depressed beyond belief as it seems I am powerless to effect any positive change in any of the above.
    –my bridge playing sucks
    –Despite hours of work in house and on roof and fiddling with cables and remotes, I am still unable to get my favorite TV channel our of D.C., even though I can get all the other D.C. channels.

    The joy of life has been sucked out of me.
    I enjoy very little except escape with some reading and chain smoking cigars, which brings much negativity from my wife.

    I feel like I am a mere spectator watching an ever evolving train wreck.

    I want the aliens (from other planets–not the illegals pouring across the border) to just beam me up. I see little hope…

    Since I am out of cigars, I am off to WalMart.

  47. lisab says:

    I thought it might be a clue into the pressures that he felt when even the obituary had to list relatives’ achievements in a way that I have never seen before.
    ————————————

    as long as the obituary for their 21 year old son was not in comic sans …

    it was fine

  48. Bitterlaw says:

    from a dwarf galaxy?

    The correct term is now “little galaxy.” “Dwarf” is an offensive term.

  49. lisab says:

    and I am pretty resigned to accepting the fact that I must not have been a very good father in regard to him)
    —————————–
    yes … because you are 100% responsible for the actions of your son … oh wait …

    actually you are not

  50. lisab says:

    Oh, and he recognizes and complains how drugs has ruined his life, but refuses to go into treatment.
    —————————

    because drugs make him feel better, if only momentarily

  51. Trump says:

    39: Some say it’s a bargaining chip. North Korea wants to ratchet things up to a possible apocalyptic crescendo. Then he can work out a deal with the west where we give him what he wants. Easing sanctions and trade with China.

  52. lisab says:

    stop smoking … remember your brother

    and go fix what you can

    which in your case is probably your church.

    you could volunteer at a drug rehab, but that would probably kill you. there is a reason i volunteer with children … i can’t deal emotionally with the hard cases

  53. NYCmike says:

    Walt,

    At this time, I can only say I will keep you in my prayers. There is a lot there to grapple with.

    I guess the best thing to do would be to start with simple things, smelling a flower, listening to a cat purr, taking a drive to the ocean and putting your feet in the surf, anything to help you realize you are not alone in feeling dwarfed by the sheer magnitude of life, and our eventual death .

    Peace be with you.

  54. Cash Cow TM says:

    I tell Walt he needs to be more like me.

    IMO, Kim Mentally Ill seems to have the same attitude of people who want to go out of this world when they walk toward a policeman with gun in hand and tell the cops “shoot me”.

    Suicide by cop (world policeman USA)

  55. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk

  56. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – You cannot fix most of the things that vex you. The doctors have to be the ones to deal with your sick family members. Make their remaining time (I hope it is a long time) as good for them as possible.

    As for your son, that is not your fault unless you bought the drugs for him when he started using them. He needs to decide whether he lives or dies and getting treatment is the only way to live. Maybe he could try living with your farmer son to see if working in a new environment helps (though there are more than enough drugs available in rural areas).

    You can’t fix most of your problems. However, you can fix one. Get cable tv, you cheap bastard.

  57. Phil says:

    ….and Kim readies another ICBM test, this time into the Pacific…that would be at least in the direction of Guam.

    He’s a lunatic. I don’t know how you negotiate with a looney tune.

    We have one card to play with China. Lean hard on your buddy in N Korea or Japan goes nuclear. China does not want that to happen. Anything less is no leverage whatsoever with China.

  58. lisab says:

    walt,

    also, if you want to slightly understand your troubled son

    put your cigars all around you, including where you normally keep them

    and quit cold turkey

    and every now and then hold them in your hand and smell them

    and don’t smoke

    it will give you a small idea of the pull of addiction

  59. Diogenes says:

    You guys too much time on far-right, koch/mercer funded media.

    “The DACA issue is the perfect leverage Trump can use to force a deal with democrats/RINOs in congress for immigration reform and border funding.”

    A president with a -20 approval rating (-30 if count strong approval to strong disapproval) has no leverage.

    Dems should let him go through with repeal of DACA. The dreamers can’t vote, but you can bet every one of those almost 1 million kids has friends that can. Not everyone is as heartless as the far-right. Trump can quickly and surely destroy the GOP for a generation just like Pete Wilson did in California … which is why all the moderate Republicans and the leadership are completely against it.

    “Imagine how much the economy will improve with real immigration reform that is not designed around bringing in as many third world poor/unskilled migrants as possible with the singular purpose of befitting the Dem party.”

    Deportations were at a record high under Obama. This is proof unlike you’re fake news statement. Trump has had problems beating Obama which is why he’s had to go with a lot of the sympathetic illegals you talked about before.

    “Now tie that in with tax reform and the gutting of unnecessary regulations, and you have an economy ready to burst open.”

    And yet, you can’t name an unnecessary regulation under Obama if you tried. Unless you buy into mouthbreather climate denial. In which case you’re a complete fool and the thinking world has nothing to do with you.

    ***************

    This place has really gone to sh*t now that the moderates and more intellectual people left.

  60. Diogenes says:

    “Now tie that in with tax reform and the gutting of unnecessary regulations, and you have an economy ready to burst open.”

    Just like the Kansas economy has taken off under Brownback thanks to the gutting of regulations and “tax reform” i.e. unfunded tax-cuts to the rich.

    Oh wait, Kansas is a huge laggard and had to endure nonsense like a 4-day schoolweek because of Brownback’s extremism.

    Rinse and repeat in places like Louisiana.

    Who knew that lowering the amount of capital (human in terms of education and physical in terms of infrastructure) doesn’t make the workers of one ‘s state more attractive.

    Don’t worry, I’m sure Trump will pay $500,000 a job like Wisconsin did to FoxConn and trumpet that on the news.

    You’ll eat it up because it fits your narrow, selfish worldview already.

  61. Bitterlaw says:

    I give credit to Dio. At least he comes here looking to fight.

  62. Tina says:

    Zzzzz.

    I just woke up and trump is president and daca is still illegal.

    I am sure ryano and mitchiemcan fix it. They love daca aka amnesty for wet dreamers.

  63. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue”
    Google “CNN,175,Sue” @NolteNC
    ·
    43m
    We gave the GOP complete control of the govt, and all they’ve done is protect ObamaCare & amnesty, and investigate Trump.

    #TrueCons

    True cons are con artists. Nothing conservative about them.

  64. NYCmike says:

    Diogenes,

    While I think some of what you say is true, you are truly a jackass.

    Trump would sign any bill, yet Congress, those fools you just won’t quit, have not sent him anything.

    Yet, you say nothing about their ineptitude.

  65. NYCmike says:

    Heh, “mouth breather climate denial”!

  66. Trump says:

    Dio, the biggest racist of them all, decided to show up after months.

    What triggered you, jerk?

  67. Diamond Jim says:

    Thread’s dead, baby. Thread’s dead.

  68. Bitterlaw says:

    DJ – It might be Thursday before you get the C.

  69. Hugh says:

    Cat 4 heading straight at me. I’m heading to SB to see my beleaguered Irish play GA. Hoping my house is standing when I return. 1/4 mile from the beach on a canal so at least the rain has a place to go.

  70. Cash Cow TM says:

    ineptitude

    tie pin duet
    i.e. punt diet
    pine tit due
    tide, u inept
    ___________________
    carp…crap

  71. Bitterlaw says:

    Cash Cow – Take care of Walt. He’s so down he makes me look happy.

  72. Phil says:

    In the aftermath of the storm Houston residents have a message for looters.

    Signs have been appearing in yards in the Atascocita section of the city.

    Warning: Looters Will Be Shot Dead

    U Loot We Will Shoot

    Nothing Inside Is Worth Dying For.

    LOL

    I love my state. Guess what? Should any homeowner shoot a looter on their property little or no chance they will be indicted. Guess this isn’t Connecticut. We had a case three years ago when a neighbor shot two criminals coming out of his neighbors house with stolen goods. He warned them to stop and they didn’t. He shot them dead.

    No billed.

  73. Trump says:

    Texas is the real land of the free and the home of the brave.

  74. Trump says:

    My brother once told me that the average Texan owns 10 pieces of firearm. My brother doesn’t have any, so somebody must be bringing up the average.

  75. Proud Obamacon says:

    Haven’t been here in a while yall. Its been busy at work. But with natural disasters in Houston and Los Angeles, I did my expiriment

    I spend a lot of time on various “extreme” news sites, just to see how the far right and far left are covering the news. But it’s the comment sections I find most fascinating as they give a window into how people are thinking.

    On Left sites, there were a small number of sick people talking about how Texas “got what it deserved” with the hurricane (and worse), but even on these sites there were still a large number of people talking about ways to help and offering prayers and well wishes. With the current Los Angeles fire, however, it was the opposite. Most commentators on these Right wing sites hoped everyone in Los Angeles would die in the fire – usually violently (Thankfully the fire is now finally getting under control).
    For example, nearly every comment (for as far as I could stomach to read – and I read pretty far) on Breitbart’s L.A. fire article reflected this with the exception of just two commentators. Just two (both were from or currently live in CA). One person even suggested sending matches in response to the need for supplies. It’s terrifying, yes, but important to look at since the extremes are often the most dangerous and can wield a lot of influence. Even if they might think they’re just being funny.
    It’s sad, but this is where we are right now – with a good portion of the country wishing the death of other parts of the country.

  76. Proud Obamacon says:

    *experiment

  77. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw must be proud:

    The senior Senator from one of his two favorite states is on trial. The last Senator to face trial hdld this identical seat.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/nyregion/senator-robert-menendez-new-jersey-trial.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur

    Yes. Old Bitterlaw hates the South with the passionate intensity of a few dozen supernovas but loves states where politicians routinely end up in federal housing.

  78. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzz. I grew up in New Jersey and would like to own a beach house there. I never voted for a Democrat in any state. The South does not appeal to me in any way.

  79. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Hurricane Irma may be about to become a Category 5 hurricane, and there is a strong possibility it will hit Florida. Until Harvey, a major hurricane has not hit the U.S. in over a decade (highly unusual), so a lot of people in Florida may not realize what may hit them.

  80. NYCmike says:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/KurtSchlichter/2017/09/04/all-this-true-conservative-talk-about-principles-is-just-another-lie-n2376699

    -As JC spoke about earlier in the thread:

    “And in the most Congressional GOP move of all possible Congressional GOP moves, they now want to try to pass a proposed DACA fix using Democrat votes and so their proposed deal to the Democrats – who really, really want 800,000 future voters – is to trade it for…wait for it…still waiting…nothing. The GOP isn’t asking for anything. No new limits on immigrants, no reform of chain immigration, certainly no wall. Nothing. I hope the dealer tries out this innovative new negotiation strategy on me the next time I bargain to lease a fine German sports sedan.”

  81. NYCmike says:

    The correct thing to do would be to push Cotton/Perdue, and then make a compromise with the Democrats over DACA……..Bitterlaw, Wes, jason and Diogenes to say something about “deadenders” in 3….2…..1….

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC wants to compromise with Democrats? Senator Rubio deserves an apology by noon.

  83. lisab says:

    AS ROBOTS EDGE INTO WORKPLACE, FREE MONEY IDEA TAKES HOLD

    Hawaii state lawmakers have voted to explore the idea of a universal basic income in light of research suggesting that a majority of waiter, cook and building cleaning jobs – vital to Hawaii’s tourism-dependent economy – will eventually be replaced by machines. A crucial question – who exactly would pay for the program? – has yet to be determined. But support for the idea has taken root.

    “Our economy is changing far more rapidly than anybody’s expected,” said state Rep. Chris Lee, who introduced legislation to consider a guaranteed universal income.

  84. NYCmike says:

    #85 – I am sure “Trump” will take care of this silly remark.

  85. NYCmike says:

    If Rubio had come out and supported the Cotton/Perdue proposal in 2010, And THEN sent an olive branch to the Democrats, I suspect he may well have been Hillary’s opponent last November.

  86. NYCmike says:

    But, he skipped that first, most important step, making sure you negotiate from a strong base of support.

    Democrats don’t compromise until they have to, so don’t give them any leeway at the beginning.

  87. CG says:

    The craziest thing is neither Cotton, Perdue, nor Rubio were in the Senate in 2010…

  88. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Stop being so literal, Mr. Sanctimony.

    Whenever Rubio got together with Schumer is the timetable being spoken about, as well as any Republican putting forth a policy like Cotton/Perdue, which finally happened this year.

  89. CG says:

    You are confused as usual.

    You never said a word about how Rubio needed to try to limit legal immigration back during his campaign or was wrong not to do so. Now, suddenly, it’s legal immigration that is the problem, after years of you insisting that it was only illegal immigrants that bothered you.

    Cotton/Perdue has nothing at all to do with illegal immigration or the status of people currently in the country whatsoever.

  90. hugh says:

    I am flying out of Lauderdale tomorrow and hope my home is in good shape when I return. People are very nervous over this one in SE FL.

  91. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Illegals being here is still a problem.

    Cotton/Perdue seeks to LIMIT legal immigration, at a number which Democrats will probably NOT WANT, but the American people will accept, and is not draconian, but is tough. I believe it also does something about chain migration, which is an issue.

    Since Dems will NOT WANT that to pass, they will not go for it.

    BUT, maybe if the Republicans stay unified, and compromise with the Dems, we can have a much stronger legal immigration system, as well as make a more streamlined process to citizenship for illegals which will not be rejected by a large part of the Republican Party voters.

    Try to get up to speed.

  92. CG says:

    So, you just changed the goalposts, after being caught in your own ignorance once again. Par for the course. None of this has anything to do with your attacks on Rubio during the campaign for working with Schumer, and you never said a word about how legal immigration is a problem.

    In regards to the Cotton Perdue bill, it is doubtful that it has 40 Republican votes in favor.

  93. NYCmike says:

    At that time when Rubio went in with Schumer, limiting legal immigration was NOT an option, as we could not even get the Executive Branch to ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS.

    NOW that we have an Executive Branch which is beginning to ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS, it seems there is wider acceptance for stronger measures, and it should be taken advantage of.

    Push for stricter laws (Cotton/Perdue) than the one signed by Reagan, while always maintaining an olive branch to Democrats that we can compromise on the illegals let in illegally under DACA, and throughout the previous decades.

    OR, the Executive Branch can just go on ENFORCING CURRENT LAW.

  94. NYCmike says:

    “In regards to the Cotton Perdue bill, it is doubtful that it has 40 Republican votes in favor.”

    -That says more about those elected to the Senate than about Cotton/Perdue.

    And I am reacting to new circumstances (Republican President and Congress, plus a Supreme Court (fingers crossed)), which will look to ENFORCE CURRENT LAW if the Democrats don’t want to compromise.

  95. NYCmike says:

    Of course, you have NOT said why the Cotton/Perdue bill won’t be pushed by other Republicans.

  96. NYCmike says:

    I am sure I will enjoy your response.

  97. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/exclusive-77-demand-end-to-sanctuary-cities-for-illegal-immigrants/article/2633359

    -Here is another policy which “CG” must be against, since Trump/Sessions is for it.

  98. NYCmike says:

    I forgot to add, majority of voters are for it as well.

  99. Tina says:

    Do not worry, the gubernor of ny will sue about daca.

    It will be interesting to see what he cites as the legal basis and whether an activist judge aporoves.

  100. Tina says:

    Its sad, but necessary. Next time, obumbler should have asked the congress to make the aporopriate changes on daca, and not lact like an emperor.

    Another phuq up by the obumbler.

  101. Phil says:

    Saw that, Tina. Law suit based on nothing but emotion. Same thing liberals base everything on.

  102. Tina says:

    A suit on emotion, much like sjw yates’ legal opinion, where she lost in the sc 9-0., phil.

    Again, it is too bad, but the onumbler phuqed it up.

    I am sure the republicrats should be able to fix it.

  103. Tina says:

    Everybody loves ag sessions again.

    Danger of being fired.

    Lol

  104. NYCmike says:

    “CG”, as well as many others, clearly do not understand the process of negotiating a bill which would be acceptable to Republican voters.

    I would be fine with maintaining legal immigration at current rates (as long as we get something in return), BUT Democrats always want MORE, and won’t compromise anywhere else.

    That is where the Cotton/Perdue bill comes in.

    Of course, that is when some Republicans (Rubio, Flake, etc) pull the football away from their voters, and turn into Dem-lite.

  105. NYCmike says:

    I ask “CG” for reasons why the Cotton/Perdue bill won’t be pushed in the Senate by a “conservative” like McConnell……crickets follow…..

  106. NYCmike says:

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/05/technology/business/mark-zuckerberg-daca/index.html?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion

    -Maybe “CG” will vote for Mark Zuckerberg because of his strong conservative positions on various policy issues.

  107. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/Heminator/status/904851282845995010

    -“deadenders” better start getting ready for some blame, as well as 60% of the Republican primary electorate…..you know…..the “fringes” of the party.

  108. NYCmike says:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/inside-story-what-took-keep-texas-grocery-chain-running-chip-cutter

    -I know H-E-B through their commercials with the San Antonio Spurs, which are pretty hilarious.

    Looks like they are a well-run company down there in Texas.

  109. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/09/05/daca-begins-orderly-lawful-wind-current-applications-still-processed/

    “”Our enforcement priorities remain unchanged. We are focused on criminals, security threats, recent border-crossers, visa overstays, and repeat violators. I have advised the Department of Homeland Security that DACA recipients are not enforcement priorities unless they are criminals, are involved in criminal activity, or are members of a gang.””

  110. NYCmike says:

    What, pray tell, are Congressional Republicans against?

  111. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump is rising in the Rasmussen polls. Was at 44% today. A lot of it might be his favorable coverage about his involvement in the Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. Some of it also likely has to do with bringing in General Kelly as chief of staff, and exercising better control on what he says on twitter. etc. Trump may not like it at times, but it does appear to be working.

  112. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/election/2017/08/26/gop-majority-nevada-way-recall/

    -See the comments from the people in Colorado….and the thought of flying into Harry Reid International Airport makes me think I won’t be going to Vegas again anytime soon.

  113. NYCmike says:

    That is NOT surprising.

  114. William says:

    #113 NYC Mike I have seen that article. Thank you for posting. HEB is the best grocery store. Fresh meats, seafood, and produce. Very efficient. The cashiers get you in and out quickly. Even shutdown and give everyone off for Easter and Christmas. Definitely run very efficiently.

  115. Tina says:

    The speaker of the swamp wants daca amnesty.

  116. lisab says:

    Sarah Root. Murdered by a drunk, street racing DREAMer the day she graduated college

  117. lisab says:

    NEWSStephen King Blocks Trump From Seeing IT Or MR. MERCEDES

  118. lisab says:

    Our new Surgeon General, Dr. Jerome Adams… another freakin white male!

    damn trump

  119. lisab says:

    so they say hurricane irma is headed for miami did y’all realize 70% of miami is latino hispanic or cuban?? 44% of the haitian population in the us resides in miami miami is like houston in which it is flourishing economically coincidence? trump wants them off our land so what better way than to flood them out read between the lines people

  120. lisab says:

    How about writing “HARRIET TUBMAN” across Jackson’s face on every $20 bill that passes through our hands? #resist

  121. lisab says:

    DannyZuker
    Danny Zuker
    @DannyZuker 1 day

    Dear Christians, if you support @realdonaldtrump’s decision to end DACA your Christianity is bullsht. But on the other hand fk you.

  122. lisab says:

    NYPD refuses to fingerprint arrested Protesters Arrested at Trump Tower After DACA Announcement

  123. lisab says:

    BREAKING: MEXICO ANNOUNCES IT WILL TAKE IN ALL DACA RECIPIENTS!

  124. lisab says:

    the Chicago GOP filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Chicago Board of Elections in January for a list of voters who had cast ballots in November. According to the party, the board responded with a list of 1,101,178 individuals, though its website reflects 1,115,664 votes cast.

    “There should be never be more votes than voters—every ballot cast should be recorded against a registered voter,”

  125. Tina says:

    Rep gutierrez slanders gold star gfather, gen kelly.

  126. Bitterlaw says:

    I feel as low as Walt now.

  127. wvally says:

    Is Vito in Miami? I have a friend down there and they are agonizing over whether to evacuate…can’t tell yet whether storm will hit them or land farther north

  128. Cash Cow TM says:

    Hope our Miami friends (including sock man Mr. Vito) will be safe.

    On an unrelated note, do you find it strange that the NORKS developed nuke capacity during Trump’s short 8 month presidency.

    Plus we have pitched battles in the streets in America.

    Plus since DJT has been president mother nature is hitting us with first Harvey and now Irma.

    I tell you that man DJT is out to destroy the world.

    If Hillary had been elected none of this bad karma would have happened.

  129. NYCmike says:

    “I feel as low as Walt now.”

    -Good advice from Bob Marley:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiPwCMlghhQ *

    *The point is to stand up to avoid being “low”. I do not necessarily agree with Marley’s politics. This comment is mainly for limited “literalists” like “CG”.

  130. lisab says:

    I have a friend down there and they are agonizing over whether to evacuate
    ————————————–

    wvally,

    i have lived near the ocean for much of my life.

    evacuate is the easy choice.

    if you head inland and the hurricane misses, you lose a couple of days vacation and a hotel fee.

    if you stay and the hurricane hits your house there is nothing you can do to save it.

  131. Trump says:

    God is not pleased with what I’ve done.

  132. lisab says:

    If Hillary had been elected none of this bad karma would have happened.
    ——————————————

    yeah, that is certainly true …

  133. lisab says:

    you west ginia and philli boys need to put your big boy boots on and buck up …

    was it ovah when the republicans bombed pearl harbor? hell no!

    what the f–k happened to the hhr i used to know? where’s the spirit? where’s the guts, huh? this could be the greatest decade of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. ‘ooh, we’re afraid to be sarcastic with you, lisab, we might get in trouble.’ (shouting) well, just kiss my ass from now on! not me! i’m not gonna take this crap from robbie and cg! big bird, he’s a dead man! ernie, dead! bert … dead!

  134. lisab says:

    mr. snuffleupagus!?!!!

    well actually we like him, so leave him alone …

  135. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Not only is Trump surrounded with retired Marine officers, who control who has access to him, but someone has to be edited his twitter. He has not send out an extreme tweet in some time.

    There is getting to be a sense of desperation in the leftist press; its hard to publish the Trump outrage of the day when he is being shielded. Cutting of the press with no news is the worst thing that can happen to them.

  136. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    126. “How about writing “HARRIET TUBMAN” across Jackson’s face on every $20 bill that passes through our hands? #resist”

    Legally there are issues with doing that.

    I support Harriet Tubman being put on the $20 bill; she was an amazing person. Why not print 1/2 of $20 dollar bills with Jackson, and half with Tubman?

  137. jason says:

    CG is back?

    Will he be pulling for Cutler if he survives Irma?

  138. jason says:

    and more intellectual people left.”

    GFY.

    I haven’t left, I am just here less often.

  139. jason says:

    Hillary’s pastor has his book pulled for plagiarism.

    “Hillary Clinton said that the email her spiritual adviser, the Rev. Bill Shillady, sent her on the morning after she lost the 2016 presidential election helped her heal from her devastating defeat.

    It wasn’t until months later, when Shillady published that email in a book, that it came to light that he had plagiarized the words that so moved the candidate.

    Now, less than a month after the book’s publication, the publishing house that printed it says it is pulling the book off the shelves because it’s riddled with plagiarism.”

  140. jason says:

    You guys too much time on far-right, koch/mercer funded media.”

    Yes, Diogenes prefers the far left Soros funded media, which by the way is 95% of the MSM.

    Each to his own.

  141. jason says:

    I think the Dreamers SHOULD should be legalized under a few conditions such as no felonies, etc. especially if it can be used as bargaining chip for more border security.

    I think Obama was way over his authority in issuing this by executive order just because Congress did not do his bidding.

    Sue me.

  142. jason says:

    Ok back to wherever the more intellectual people go when they are not here.

  143. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – My life sucks, too. How are you doing?

  144. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn. Jason has adopted the “Tim Drive-by” strategy.

  145. Tina says:

    What happened to

    Muh russia

    Muh kkk

    Are we now on wet daca?

  146. Tina says:

    One big daca lie

    They are kids.

    Most are not “kids.”

  147. Tina says:

    I hope the la raxa types go to court over daca. What law will they cite?

  148. Bitterlaw says:

    Is Tina channeling her inner-mnw with the “wet” comment?

  149. Tina says:

    Bl, wet duck.

  150. Tina says:

    I meant tomtype wet ducka .

    Quack quack quack

  151. Bitterlaw says:

    Got it. I know you are better than mnw.

  152. Tina says:

    Bl, i am best.

  153. Walt says:

    Bitter and I are going to form a HHR sub-set club called “Life Sucks Bigly” hearafter known as “LSB”
    (which is ironically very close to ‘lisab’)

    We welcome all morose HHR members..
    You optimists need not apply.
    GFY.
    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
    Our symbols are a
    🙁 and a picture of a large screw.

    Our club song is the old Hee Haw song:
    “Gloom, Despair, and Agony On Me”

    Bitter, we need a motto.
    You can come up with that…

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
    Dave W. (the Wizard) will probably not join since he is all excited on FB that his son started kindergarten.

  154. Cash Cow TM says:

    Things were kinda sketchy yesterday at Walt’s house.

    Mrs. Walt had invited a couple from Chicago area (long time college friends) to come to dinner.

    Walt vacuumed and dusted on Monday.
    Had more chores to do in preparation for the dinner Tuesday evening.

    Seems Walt forgot that Tuesday was his bridge playing day. When he did not show up the bridge group called and said you are 15 minutes late..you coming?

    So off Walt went to play cards and Mrs. Walt was left to do all the falderoll needed to get ready fro dinner..

    Kinda icy here yesterday evening…

  155. Tina says:

    Joe carr to challenge corker.

  156. NYCmike says:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451070/chris-christie-new-jersey-senator-possibly

    -I would LOVE to see this, just for the fireworks that would ensue.

  157. NYCmike says:

    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2016/08/04/6th-congressional-district-diane-black-joe-carr/88004968/

    -2 things: 1) Joe Carr seems more like a “Joe Kerr”.

    2) I think CCCP wrote this article: “Black, a three-term congressman, beat Carr, a former tea party-aligned state representative from Rutherford County, by a 2-to-1 margin Thursday, collecting 64 percent of the vote to Carr’s 32 percent. Republican primary candidates Donald Strong and Tommy Hay finished with 3 percent and 2 percent respectively.”

  158. Cash Cow TM says:

    Young gal who teaches as Walt’s wife’s school in about to leave for honeymoon.

    She and new hubby are going to Dominican Republic.

    WTF?

    Hurricane Irma is battering Puerto Rico and Domincan Republic is next door to PR… unless officials have towed it out of harms way.

  159. Cash Cow TM says:

    Harvey and now Irma frighten me immensely.
    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
    We should tear down statutes of anyone named Harvey or Irma.

    And require people with those first names to change them ASAP.

    And bet them senseless if they refuse to change their names.

  160. Cash Cow TM says:

    BEAT not ‘bet’…

    (typing like tina..)

  161. NYCmike says:

    That Hank Johnson character had a good idea with “capsizing” islands……turn it over when the hurricane hits, then flip it back afterwards, so nothing is damaged by the wind….. 🙂

  162. NYCmike says:

    Ca$h,

    Let Walt know I was saying prayers for him, but then my wife interrupted me because we forgot to take the garbage out for the early morning pick up……so I am not sure they went thru to the Big Guy.

  163. CG says:

    “President Donald Trump overruled congressional Republicans and his own treasury secretary Wednesday and cut a deal with Democrats to fund the government and raise the federal borrowing limit for three months, all part of an agreement to speed money to Harvey relief.

    In the course of a relatively brief negotiating session at the White House, Trump largely sided with Democratic leaders as they pushed for the three-month deal. He brushed aside calls from Republican congressional leaders and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for a longer extension to the debt limit, which Republicans had been aiming for to avoid having to take another vote on the politically toxic issue before the 2018 elections.

    “We had a very good meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer,” Trump told reporters on Air Force One, not bothering to mention House Speaker Paul Ryan or Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who also were present. “We agreed to a three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred, very important.”

    Trump cut the deal at the White House just hours after Ryan had slammed the idea of the three-month extension sought by Democrats as “ridiculous.”

    https://www.apnews.com/7452e3ba2a7a4eb1afddaf5422708e41?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

    So Much Winning!

  164. jason says:

    Damn. Jason has adopted the “Tim Drive-by” strategy.”

    I have not.

  165. jason says:

    Corey just discovered Trump is not a Republican.

    Better late than never.

  166. CG says:

    Say what? I’m the one who always knew he was not a Republican.

  167. NYCmike says:

    Yup, that is true……I NEVER wrote, in the past 18 months or so, that Trump is neither a “liberal Democrat” nor a Republican…….I NEVER WROTE THAT!

    Isn’t that correct, “CG”?

  168. NYCmike says:

    Heh….I figured people like “CG”, jason, etc would be happy that Trump avoided a shutdown……

  169. CG says:

    But you will defend him being a Democrat for a Day now NYC, because for the past 18 months, he can literally do no wrong with you.

  170. jason says:

    I see one of Irma’s possible paths goes right through Philadelphia.

    Bitter, I can come board up your house for a very reasonable price.

    If you need references, I can send you pix of some of the barns I have help build (actually, you raise barns, not build them).

    I am out of this picture because I was being served some cider by one of Amos’ daughters.

    http://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/2014/09/0amishbarnraising-004.jpg

  171. NYCmike says:

    Trump does plenty wrong, I guess…..that is, if you think the President is in control of what type of legislation comes out of Congress…..do you think he is in control of both the Legislative and the Executive Branch, like Robbie does?

    I am still trying to figure out how Pelosi, Schumer and Trump can fund the government without Republican support…..maybe one of the “intelligent” posters can explain this new procedure.

  172. NYCmike says:

    “But you will defend him being a Democrat for a Day now NYC”

    -I am a bit surprised by this news, so I really don’t know what to say.

    Usually, there is a week-long period of MSM hyperventilating about the gloom and doom of a government shutdown, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul being called showboats, then McConnell and Ryan (instead of Boehner) being hailed as heroes in regards to these borrowing limits.

    This happened rather quickly and I was caught off-guard. I am still trying to figure out my RB situation for this weekend, as they are both on teams whose game is suspended due to Irma.

  173. CG says:

    Once again, you are confused “NYC”

    This story today is not about “funding the government.” It is about raising the debt ceiling, something that all the self-professed Ted Cruz/Rand Paul/Tea Party types like you had all sorts of problems with. Republicans wanted a better deal but Trump just completely gave Pelosi and Schumer everything they wanted and now they are going to have to cut another deal down the road before the next election. They are tying it to hurricane relief funds so that conservatives find it harder to complain.

    Now, since I am not a Democrat nor a Trumpist, I really don’t care what those three old friends do together, but how does cutting a unilateral deal with Schumer and Pelosi and backstabbing Congressional Republicans and even his own Cabinet, “Drain the Swamp.”

    Remember, you said Marco Rubio deserved to be driven out of office for even appearing at a press conference once with Chuck Schumer.

  174. NYCmike says:

    That said, any deal with Pelosi and Schumer is probably bad for the country, so Trump is probably wrong to do this, but then again, our Republican Congress hasn’t looked to repeal much of their previous work, so…….

  175. jason says:

    I have always said Trump was not a Republican. Or a conservative.

    Of course, I never said Hillary was anything but a hard core leftist diehard ideologue. I never claimed she was a “compromiser” like someone I know.

  176. NYCmike says:

    “Remember, you said Marco Rubio deserved to be driven out of office for even appearing at a press conference once with Chuck Schumer.”

    -That’s an odd thing to write, as I vocally, and in writing here on HHR, supported Rubio last spring when I thought he was the best chance to defeat Trump.

    That said, I don’t see anything to like about this deal, but I am still wondering how Schumer, Pelosi, and Trump can raise the debt ceiling on their own…..doesn’t there have to be a vote?

  177. NYCmike says:

    “pragmatic compromiser”, I believe, was the correct term…..

  178. CG says:

    I said compared to Obama, she would be more apt to compromise, because like Trump, and those who defend Trump at every turn regardless of circumstances, she has little principle.

  179. CG says:

    The vote is tied to Hurricane Relief, so now all those Freedom Caucus Republicans either have to capitulate to Pelosi or vote against Hurricane Relief and have ads run against them for that.

  180. NYCmike says:

    And again, “fund the government”, “raise the debt ceiling”…….both are instances where the legislative and executive branches may have a stand-off which results in other events happening…stop being so darn literal about everything.

  181. jason says:

    Corey defended Hillary here for months as some kind of moderate compromiser, ignoring her decades as an uncompromising, hard core leftist ideologue, so he is not quite the person to cast stones on NYC’s views (which of course, are wrong too).

  182. CG says:

    One has to be somewhat literal to try to educate you on these matters, because with all due respect, you have little understanding of current events.

    That does not make you unusual among Americans by any stretch, but you actually seem to think you know what you are talking about.

  183. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Pelosi and Schumer know how to negotiate, it seems.

    Take this is a lesson for other policy initiatives. Maybe Cotton/Perdue should be a unifying proposal, and let’s see where a hard-line from Republicans gets us on immigration.

  184. CG says:

    Never once said she was a moderate or not a liberal. I offered money to anyone who could find a specific post in which that was ever suggested.

    Anything else is a lie.

  185. CG says:

    So, now the “NYC” Trump defense is that he is smart to go along with Pelosi and Schumer to teach Republicans a lesson.

    I knew there would be something.

  186. jason says:

    I said compared to Obama, she would be more apt to compromise,”

    Zzzzzzzz… this is of course BS too, her platform was way to the left of even Obama’s, and her entire history in public office says otherwise.

  187. NYCmike says:

    “pragmatic compromiser”

    Simply the act of her picking justices was enough reason to vote for Trump, and then we saw the people he chose to form his cabinet.

    Hillary would have been a disaster. Trump has been better than I thought.

    Congress has been downright terrible.

  188. jason says:

    I should say private and public life, not public office.

  189. NYCmike says:

    “So, now the “NYC” Trump defense is that he is smart to go along with Pelosi and Schumer to teach Republicans a lesson.”

    -LOL!

    Where did I say that?

    He has ZERO cares about deals like this. He is not an ideologue.

    I am surprised by the timing, I am NOT surprised that he signed on to this.

  190. jason says:

    I agree with NYC on one thing, whatever you can say about Trump, and I didn’t vote for him, I wake up every morning thankful Hillary is not President.

  191. CG says:

    The entire history of the Clintons in public office is literally compromising when they felt political heat. She is the one who once ran against Barack Obama as the candidate of “hard working white Americans.” She has a new book out in which she attacks Bernie Sanders for being way too liberal and blames Barack Obama for muzzling her on criticizing him for that.

    Yes, the platform the Democrats adopted was far, far left. She would have cared more about her poll numbers though than anything else. At this point, “what difference does it make?”

  192. CG says:

    I’m regretful Mitt Romney is not the President of the United States.

  193. NYCmike says:

    “At this point, “what difference does it make?””

    -BECAUSE TRUMP WON, I agree with you on this.

  194. CG says:

    We have one non-Republican moral disgrace instead of another non-Republican moral disgrace.

    Yes, Gorsuch, that’s supposed to make it all ok I guess for some….

  195. NYCmike says:

    “I’m regretful Mitt Romney is not the President of the United States.”

    -I was upset when he lost in 2012…..that said, he clearly did NOT want the position enough.

  196. CG says:

    Did you even vote for Romney?

    Yeah, he didn’t want it badly enough to act like Trump. I’m glad he is not Trump.

    Also, he wasn’t lucky enough to get to run against Hillary Clinton. He had to face an incumbent who actually was a good politician.

    Do you think Trump would have beaten Obama?

    Do you think Romney would have lost to Hillary in ’16?

  197. NYCmike says:

    “moral disgrace” – this argument is so easily defined……. 🙂

  198. Trump says:

    Why would Trump make a deal with Ryan and McConnell?

    They have a track record of not doing anything.

  199. Trump says:

    Trump just cut out the kabuki.

  200. CG says:

    Schumer and Pelosi were behind the effort to push Obamacare through, so they are “winners” and Trump is smart to align with them.

    That’s basically what “NYC” is going to be saying once he “gathers his thoughts.”

  201. NYCmike says:

    “Did you even vote for Romney?”

    -I know I didn’t take my ball and go home.

    In fact, I voted for Romney twice, once in the primary, and then in the general.

    “Do you think Trump would have beaten Obama?” – NO

    “Do you think Romney would have lost to Hillary in ’16?” – After going thru the last year, and seeing where the votes for Trump came from, Yes.

  202. CG says:

    So, clearly “wanting it badly enough” is a ridiculous theory.

  203. NYCmike says:

    “Schumer and Pelosi were behind the effort to push Obamacare through, so they are “winners” and Trump is smart to align with them.”

    -LOL.

    You are basically off your rocker.

  204. CG says:

    Oh, I misread. You think Romney would have lost to Hillary.

    That’s even more ridiculous.

  205. Trump says:

    Moron, still living on lunatic dreams?

  206. CG says:

    So, in your own words then, why is Trump smart to align with Schumer and Pelosi on this and against Republicans and Mnuchin?

  207. Trump says:

    Because both the debt ceiling vote and the Harvey relief votes are already done.

    Why waste time on irrelevancies?

  208. Trump says:

    And Ryan and mcconnel still control the votes. Let them pass their own versions of the two bills.

    Ha ha ha ha

  209. Jonesy says:

    CG, Corey endorsed Hillary and then melted down on election night. Nuff said

  210. NYCmike says:

    “That’s even more ridiculous.”

    -Romney would have won Pennsylvania? Michigan? Wisconsin?

    You can’t guarantee any of those 3 for Romney.

    SO, the answer would be NO.

  211. CG says:

    Now, there are going to have to be two debt ceiling votes before 2018.

    And why should a debt ceiling vote be tied to hurricane relief? Why should one thing have anything to do with another? It’s just an effort to bury the debt ceiling vote. Whether one thinks we should extend the debt ceiling or not, it’s hard to get more “swampy” than that.

  212. CG says:

    No, JT, you are thinking about Cory. I was not even here on Election Night until well after midnight and in no sense did I ever endorse Hillary.

  213. Tina says:

    Jebots are unhinged because muh russia is a dud.

  214. NYCmike says:

    “So, in your own words then, why is Trump smart to align with Schumer and Pelosi on this and against Republicans and Mnuchin?”

    -Who said he was “smart” to do this?

    I said he has no care about it…..tell me why he would care?

    It does NOT AFFECT HIM PERSONALLY, or HIS FAMILY, or HIS BUSINESS.

  215. Trump says:

    Goo. Let the GOP take two votes.

    I’d say, take multiple votes.

    If Ryan and McConnell differ, they control the house and senate.

    Ha ha ha ha

  216. CG says:

    Romney would have won Pennsylvania. Probably the others, but also almost certainly New Hampshire, Colorado, and Virginia, which Trump did not.

  217. Tina says:

    Quittens is the architect of obumblercare. I am glad he did not get sos or un position. The ex sc governor is a huge upgrade over quittens, a moderate r.

  218. CG says:

    So, “NYC” is Trump right to do this or not?

  219. Tina says:

    Lol, romney winning…

  220. Trump says:

    Moron,

    Still clinging to loser Romney?

  221. Tina says:

    Va and co would have been win by hillary, who would have also won pa.

  222. CG says:

    We are at two “morons” now. One more and I will walk away and let you folks carry on at HHR as usual these days until my next “Drive By.”

  223. Trump says:

    Here’s the simple question:

    Why don’t Ryan and McConnell pass their own bills? It’s not like trump, Pelosi or schumer control congress.

  224. NYCmike says:

    As for “swampy” things, NOW you are worried about that? You never saw an incumbent you wouldn’t bow down to, except for a Cruz type.

    I ONLY voted for Trump because he was the Republican nominee….that is why I have been pleasantly surprised by most of his actions…they have been mainly, until today’s news, conservative in nature.

  225. Tina says:

    With quittens as president we would have gotten the paris treaty. Nobody can explain why there was outcry by the leftists and rinos, who maintained it did nothing.

    If it did nothing, we woukd have heard nada.

  226. Trump says:

    Moron, go away.

    And let me know how many morons will it’s take for a permanent disappearance?

  227. Tina says:

    What deal did trump do? Why are useleaz ryano and little mitchie upset?

  228. Tina says:

    Btw, the epa has the same number of employees now, as it did under reagan. The federal workforce is down 11k.

    Neither quittens nor flub would have cut the size of the gubment.

  229. CG says:

    Ok, enjoy your Trump Echo Chamber for a while longer. Hope everyone is safe from Irma.

  230. Trump says:

    Nobody can trust this moron. He’ll be back.

  231. Tina says:

    e agreed to a three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred, very important.”

    What difference does a 3 month deal do? Mitchie and daca ryano, the swamp leader, will raise the li it and do a one size spending bill.

  232. Tina says:

    The blog was going to be shut down, per jebots.

  233. Tina says:

    Aaron Blake ? @AaronBlake
    As Hillary Clinton launches her book tour, NBC/WSJ poll shows her with her worst positive image rating ever: Just 30%
    8:52 AM – Sep 6, 2017

    The jebots candidate has the worst approval ever.

  234. Tina says:

    The jebot wants to cut the miney for the hurricane victims. I am conservative as they come, but holfing the money up is suicide.

  235. Jonesy says:

    219. You are Corey from Chicago with a new handle. You support liberal Rauner of illinois, who made it a sanctuary state, but then spew your never Trump garbage, and promote Hillary

  236. Jonesy says:

    Trump is smart. Did not want to go down like Bush with Katrina.

  237. Tina says:

    The ds were going to hold up hurricane money. The 3 month drbt limit imcrease is meaningless. It will need to be increased again.

  238. NYCmike says:

    Who else would “CG” support for Governor, Jonesy?

    Rauner beat a Democrat, and is being stubborn about the budget. FANTASTIC!*

    *Enjoy the higher tax rates, “CG”.

  239. Jonesy says:

    By a 94-2 vote, Tim Kelly confirmed to D.C federal court. Another new trump judge

  240. Jonesy says:

    Mike, you missed the point i made. Corey is a hypocrite. His own governor gives into dems

  241. JC says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Aaron Blake ? @AaronBlake
    As Hillary Clinton launches her book tour, NBC/WSJ poll shows her with her worst positive image rating ever: Just 30%
    8:52 AM – Sep 6, 2017
    ——————————

    The only thing people like less than a loser is a sore loser.

  242. NYCmike says:

    “His own governor gives into dems”

    -That is NOT really the case on most things…..he is in an overwhelmingly Democratic state….he will continue certain policies that are in effect, UNTIL the federal courts say otherwise.

    You can’t hold that against Rauner.

  243. Wes says:

    Dave Reichert–the sheriff who famously caught the Green River Killer before running for Congress–will retire after seven terms in Congress next year. Reichert represents a rare district consistently held by Republicsns even as Dems have won it on thr presidential level. This will be a district Dems look to target in their quest to recapture Congress though Republicans have a slight edge in recruiting prodpects.

  244. Wes says:

    Yesterday’s American Horror Story was a mishmash of leftist snowflakes and racist Trump supporters. I wasn’t really sure which side Ryan Murphy was targeting more in the damn near incomprehensible seventh season opener.

  245. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/09/05/biggest-obstacle-to-progress-private-property-says-bill-de-blasio/

    -Geez Louise, the mask is really slipping on these people.

    IF I had only convinced my wife to re-locate years ago…..

  246. Redmen4ever says:

    If Mia Love married Luther Strange, and then got a Ph.D., she’d be Dr. Strange-Love.

  247. NYCmike says:

    “Meanwhile, Moore has emerged as a much stronger candidate on the issue of immigration. On Tuesday, Moore publicly backed the RAISE Act from Sens. Tom Cotton (R-AR) and David Perdue (R-GA). The president supports the RAISE Act too.”

  248. Ron N says:

    I guess Trump should let Ryan & Mitch take care of this just like Obama care, taxes and budget. How has that worked or wait ten minutes for another senator to take a shot at him. while doing nothing working maybe 2-5 days a month. If they came and did there job maybe they could get things done what a waste they have been. Nothing but talk from them and no action. But like normal they let the Dem get out in front and say 3 month plan. Republican leadership just sucks they wait and never come out with a plan until Dems and media have back them into a corner. They been there so long and have no plans to fix anything. So they always look weak. Now the new thing is if only we 60 in the senate does anyone think they would get anything done. Trust me the Dems suck but at least there stick together.

  249. Robbie says:

    I just got back from a two week trip to Europe yesterday and arrived home in time to see a lifelong Democrat, Trump, side with Schumer and Pelosi on a short term debt limit deal that McConnell/Ryan/McCarthy/Mnuchin opposed.

    Who could have imagined Trump would spend August attacking Republicans and then side with Democrats in September? Me. That’s who. Trump’s a lifelong Democrat and a total incompetent who is destroying up the Republican Party one day at a time.

    But Gorsuch, right?

  250. Robbie says:

    I saw the other day the DOJ announced it had found no evidence Obama wiretapped Trump or Trump Tower. Did that go unnoticed here since it was negative to the dear orange leader?

  251. Trump says:

    Isn’t that awesome, cretin Robbie?

    Maybe McConnell and Ryan will get off their as$es and pass their own bills.

    Last I checked, neither Trump nor Pelosi nor Schumer controlled Congress agenda and bills.

    Sucks to be GOP, right?

  252. Trump says:

    As$ hole, who wire tapped Trump?

  253. Trump says:

    Are you tortutured, cretin?

  254. Tina says:

    I think he shoukd show the checks made to the donors. That way…

    Oh wait, the drats asked for it.

  255. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 2:54 pm
    “moral disgrace” – this argument is so easily defined…….

    – Yes, it applies quite easily to the people who continue to support Trump as he destroys the Republican Party one day at a time.

    But he fights, right!?

  256. NYCmike says:

    I asked earlier, and still have NOT received an answer.

    HOW does Trump, Schumer, and Pelosi make a deal on this?

    Does a vote occur?

  257. Tina says:

    President Donald Trump on Wednesday defied Republican leaders and agreed to Democrats’ demands to raise the debt limit and fund the government for three months, setting up a brutal year-end fiscal cliff.

    From politco. This paragraph is wrong.

  258. Trump says:

    What’s wrong with destroying the Republican Party? One day at a time, or in bulk?

  259. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:00 pm
    I asked earlier, and still have NOT received an answer.
    HOW does Trump, Schumer, and Pelosi make a deal on this?
    Does a vote occur?

    – A Democrat cut a deal with Democrats. That’s how. And there will be enough Republicans who are scared on your man Donnie who will go ahead and vote for the Trump/Schumer deal so as not to get pegged with blowing up the debt ceiling.

    But Gorsuch.

  260. Trump says:

    Don’t ask straightforward questions, it hurts their minds.

    The morons have excuse after excuse for the GOP failuing to do anything. Anything.

  261. Tina says:

    Let’s just think about this: We’ve got all this devastation in Texas. We’ve got another unprecedented hurricane about to hit Florida, and they want to play politics with the debt ceiling? … I think that’s ridiculous and disgraceful that they want to play politics with the debt ceiling at this moment when we have fellow citizens in need, to respond to these hurricanes so we do not strand them.

    Daca Ryano, swamp leader, seems upset.

  262. Redmen4ever says:

    If Luther Strange married Whitney R. Indanight, she’s be Strange R. Indanight.

  263. Tina says:

    Everybody was for the money for the hurricane and raising the debt ceiling, ryano.

    You were against daca and now for it.

    Take up a vote for it daca ryano, swamp leader.

  264. Trump says:

    Well, Ryan and McConnell have had months to devise a debt ceiling bill.

    Where is it?

  265. Trump says:

    At some point, GOP needs to get rid of these useless, clueless lumps of leaders.

  266. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    So, the Republicans just pass the deal Trump/Schumer/Pelosi agreed to?

    How does it come up for a vote?

    Who votes for it?

    Republicans?

    Oh, you forgot to mention that last item.

  267. Robbie says:

    Glad to see Trump invited Heitkamp onto the stage during his tax reform speech. What a way to help Kramer.

  268. Trump says:

    What Ryan and McConnell are steamed about is the loss of the kabuki theater.

    How they were going to pose as fiscal conservatives, beating their chests about debt ceiling raise and Harvey money.

    Trump basically told them to stuff it and get something done.

  269. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is back, “CG” is back – everything is Trump’s fault, Congress has NO POWER.

    And I am the one who does NOT know how things work. 🙂

  270. Trump says:

    Now, how are Ryan and McConnell going to raise money, when the kabuki theater is closed?

  271. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    All of the Democrats will vote for the deal and so will enough Republicans because they don’t want to mean tweets from Democrat Trump and they don’t want to get pegged as blowing up the debt ceiling.

    Just keep on defending him. If you like this, you’re really going to love it when Democrat Trump cuts a deal on DACA that blows up the Republican Party even further.

    But Gorsuch!!!!

  272. Trump says:

    I think they should take votes own debt ceiling every month till Election Day.

  273. Tina says:

    Median age of daca kids is 26. Vincente fox ahould be willing to take these people back. Theynare educated compared to their overall population.

    Vicente Fox is a bush ot clown.

  274. Tina says:

    They should deny vicente fox a visa entrance into the us. I would be incluned to arrest him

  275. Trump says:

    What deal, as$hole?

    If Ryan doesn’t want it, there would be no vote.

    Do you even understand who crafts bills to be voted upon, cretin Robbie?

  276. NYCmike says:

    For eight months, I have been asking for conservative legislation passed in previous Congresses.

    Congress would NOT pass the same bills already voted on and vetoed by Obama.

    Robbie,, for 8 months, blamed Trump for NOTHING getting done.

    NOW, Trump works out a short-term deal with Democrats, despite Congress being controlled by Republicans, and Robbie blames Trump for SOMETHING getting done.

    I always thought Congress had the ability to pass legislation that would then be signed into law (or vetoed) by the President.

    Silly me.

  277. Trump says:

    I know you are cretin level, Robbie, but it seems you are plumbing new depths.

  278. Tina says:

    Top White House officials and GOP leaders had spent the past few days urging Republicans to raise the debt ceiling through the 2018 midterm election.

    This oart is likely true. Daca ryano and mitchie had no plan.

    They will need to vote on the money and debt ceilimg increase.

    They can vote against it.

  279. Tina says:

    Politico comfirms the ryano and mitchie had no deal or plan. That is what hapoens when you have aheotty leadership.

  280. NYCmike says:

    “If you like this, you’re really going to love it when Democrat Trump cuts a deal on DACA that blows up the Republican Party even further.”

    -Cotton/Perdue was endorsed by Trump.

    Let’s roll, Robbie.

    Are you with me? Give me Cotton/Perdue, and I will gladly accept a compromise on DACA.

  281. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:10 pm
    Robbie is back, “CG” is back – everything is Trump’s fault, Congress has NO POWER.
    And I am the one who does NOT know how things work.

    – Yes, it is Trump’s fault. He spent the first seven months of his presidency torching his approval rating and driving people way from him. That’s why he has no leverage anymore because his approval rating about 38%. Fortunately, for him though, you’ll always be one of the 38% who support him.

    Get ready, though. Because if you like Democrat Trump cutting deals with Schumer today, you’re going to love it over the next year. He knows the Republicans are in prime shape to lose the House and he’s going to want to schmooze them in hopes they won’t impeach his incompetent butt in early 2019.

    By the way, what are we up to today? Still at ZERO miles of wall built? Or did I missed something?

  282. NYCmike says:

    “Are you with me? Give me Cotton/Perdue, and I will gladly accept a compromise on DACA.”

  283. Robbie says:

    This is what I love about NYCMike. For years and years, he spouted off about being a real conservative. Then when a Democrat named Trump takes over pretending to be a Republican, he sides with the Democrat Trump and turns on the conservative Republicans.

    But he fights! But Gorsuch!

  284. CG says:

    Missing the point.

    Just about every member of Congress will vote for the Schumer/Pelosi Plan, backed by Trump (against the advice of his own Cabinet)because they are tying it to Hurricane Relief and nobody will be able to vote no if they don’t want to be seen as wanting to hurt hurricane victims.

    That’s how they get it done instead of having separate votes on completely separate matters. Can’t get much more “swampy” than that.

    Also, it’s nice that Trump basically just endorsed Heitkamp for reelection. He apparently thinks she is so much greater than Jeff Flake, who voted with Trump on Obamacare repeal, unlike Heitkamp, and who has an across the board conservative voting record.

    So much for “one vote! one vote!”

  285. NYCmike says:

    “turns on the conservative Republicans.”

    -Which “conservative Republicans”?

    The ones who REPEALED Obamacare in……2015, 2014, 2013…..?

    THOSE “conservatives”?

  286. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie, how come Ryan and McConnell can’t get anything passed?

  287. NYCmike says:

    ““Are you with me? Give me Cotton/Perdue, and I will gladly accept a compromise on DACA.””

  288. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:15 pm
    Politico comfirms the ryano and mitchie had no deal or plan. That is what hapoens when you have aheotty leadership.

    – Still having a hard time accepting that Jeff Sessions’ DOJ confirmed what we all knew. Obama didn’t wiretap Trump. I know it must be hard for you, but I guess posting Gateway Pundit BS stories is your way of coping about being let down by Democrat Trump.

    By the way, we’re up to ZERO miles of wall!

  289. Trump says:

    The level of stupidity is reaching heights today. The two cretins are back.

    So why can’t Ryan and mcconnell write bills that they would want trump to sign?

  290. NYCmike says:

    The only thing I can do about Trump is vote again in 2020.

    Congress had all of the power to send him conservative legislation since Jan 20, 2017.

    You blamed congressional inaction on….wait for it……TWEETS.

  291. Robbie says:

    Hey, I know the answer to DACA. Let’s all support the Cotton/Perdue plan that can’t get 20 votes in the Senate. But he fights!

  292. NYCmike says:

    ” Let’s all support the Cotton/Perdue plan that can’t get 20 votes in the Senate.”

    -Another person who does NOT know how to negotiate.

    Oh well.

  293. NYCmike says:

    And why can’t Cotton/Perdue get 20 votes?

    Is it a racist bill?

  294. NYCmike says:

    Instead, let’s meet with Schumer and ask him what he wants in an immigration deal, agree, and THEN ask him for what we want……THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLAN! ///

  295. Trump says:

    Why the fu ck is anyone concerned about DACA?

  296. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:22 pm
    The only thing I can do about Trump is vote again in 2020.
    Congress had all of the power to send him conservative legislation since Jan 20, 2017.
    You blamed congressional inaction on….wait for it……TWEETS.

    – This is what amazes me about you. You act as if the president is just a bystander. He’s not. Stop pretending.

    Nothing is going to get done in the Congress without Trump’s leadership. This is the way it has always worked. Get this through your head.

    Stop living in your Ted Cruz dream world where everything will be sunshine and roses if only moderates will swallow Tea Party plans cooked up by Ted Cruz and Mark Meadows.

  297. Trump says:

    Why don’t you get rid of the useless Ryan and McConnell? They seem to be just taking up oxygen.

  298. Trump says:

    It’s not like they are doing anything.

  299. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:23 pm
    ” Let’s all support the Cotton/Perdue plan that can’t get 20 votes in the Senate.”
    -Another person who does NOT know how to negotiate.
    Oh well.

    – Yeah, if only I could negotiate like Trump and allow myself to get completely rolled by Schumer and Pelosi.

    Trump is a failed president and it hasn’t even been 8 months. There isn’t going to be healthcare reform, tax reform, or anything else.

    Trump would rather vent on Twitter like a teenage girl who has been dumped for the first time in her life.

  300. Trump says:

    8 percent approval rating.

    Ha ha ha ha

  301. Redmen4ever says:

    If Magic Johnson married Luther Strange, they’d make Strange Magic.

  302. CG says:

    If Luther Strange married NYCMike, Donald Trump would perform the ceremony…

  303. Robbie says:

    Oh, I forget to mention this great tidbit that I read while I was gone. Erick Erickson says the worst kept secret in DC is Kennedy has decided not to step down while Trump is president because he is so worried by Democrat Trump’s odd behavior.

    Yay Donnie!

  304. Trump says:

    Another lunatic fantasy from the cretin Robbie.

  305. Trump says:

    Kennedy will be dead in 7 years.

  306. Trump says:

    The worst kept secret is that the cretin Robbie is a hateful as$hole.

  307. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:33 pm
    Kennedy will be dead in 7 years.

    – And it won’t be Trump or any other Republican who replaces him.

    But he fights!

  308. Trump says:

    If Kennedy survives trump’s 7 years, he won’t survive kid rock’s 8 years.

  309. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:34 pm
    The worst kept secret is that the cretin Robbie is a hateful as$hole.

    – Another worst kept secret is your a troll POS who never supported Republicans or Trump.

  310. Trump says:

    Hey moron, there will no more republican president.

    Republican voters are not going back to Romney-like or Jeb-like losers.

  311. Trump says:

    Go fu ck yourself, mother sucker.

    The great thing about trump is the emotional torture he inflicts on the likes of you. Everyday, before breakfast.

  312. Trump says:

    Scumbag like you deserves every kick that trump gives you, cretin Robbie.

  313. Tina says:

    The jebots are back.

    Lol, still low energy and weak.

    Sad that hillarys book is not selling.

    I jeard ann navarro, real conservative, is including free muffins with purchase.

  314. Tina says:

    Trump,at 45 percent in ras and another polling firm at 48 percent.

  315. Tina says:

    He made a deal with ky mitchie and daca ryano in the room too. At least they are photographed.

  316. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:43 pm
    The jebots are back.
    Lol, still low energy and weak.
    Sad that hillarys book is not selling.
    I jeard ann navarro, real conservative, is including free muffins with purchase.

    – How’s that wiretap story working out for you? How are you liking the ZERO miles of wall built so far? How do you like Trump saying he wants to keep the DACA people around?

    He’s really delivering for your populist garbage vision of America. ZERO accomplishments other than an extremely low approval rating. Winning!!!

  317. NYCmike says:

    “– Yeah, if only I could negotiate like Trump and allow myself to get completely rolled by Schumer and Pelosi.”

    -Rolled?

    Please tell me, why does Trump care about the debt ceiling?

    It does NOT affect him personally at this moment. WE KNEW THIS LAST NOVEMBER!

    And as for Congress, it does NOT need President to do anything until he gets the bill…..YES, it is nice if they have the same agenda, BUT he is not ideologically the same as Congress is supposed to be.

    And, WE KNEW THIS LAST NOVEMBER!

  318. Tina says:

    We need a muh russian update from the concern trolls

  319. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:44 pm
    Trump,at 45 percent in ras and another polling firm at 48 percent.

    – Bless your heart. Still going with the garbage polling assuage your concerns.

    Why not just say Trump’s at 55%. If you’re going to lie to yourself about Trump’s standing with the country, go for the gold.

    How long before you start citing Drudge polls as proof he’s still popular?

  320. Tina says:

    Rolled.

    Everybody wanted the ceiling increased, right? Everybody was for the hurricane relief, and irma may be even worse.

    You do not get rolled for supporting things everybody wanted.

  321. CG says:

    How does enforcement of the borders affect him personally? I guess if it doesn’t, he really doesn’t or shouldn’t care about that “key issue” either.

    If anything, since he has relied so much on foreign workers, including illegal foreign workers, he may really want to bring more in.

  322. Tina says:

    Bless your hear stated the drat in drag.

  323. NYCmike says:

    “How do you like Trump saying he wants to keep the DACA people around?”

    -I believe he asked CONGRESS to do something about it……what will Mitch and Paul do is the real question.

    You are laughable…..defending Congress who seems to be utterly incompetent because they don’t have someone to lead them around like sheep.

  324. Tina says:

    Daca amnesty is what the jebots want

    Daca amnesty. They are kids.

  325. NYCmike says:

    “he may really want to bring more in.”

    -He may….which is why I would want Congress to pass more-conservative legislation.

  326. Robbie says:

    I see NYCMike still hasn’t figured out why the debt ceiling is important. Not surprised though. Tea Party loyalist have never really understood or cared about governing. Just want to flap their gums about purity.

    Honestly though, it’s so amazingly humorous to see the Tea Party deadenders supporting Democrat Trump like he’s Mike Lee or Ted Cruz. They’re all for conservative purity except when it comes to a lifelong liberal Democrat named Trump.

  327. Tina says:

    The drats do not understand. Obumbler did something illegal with his actions. A court already ruled partially on it. The president has no authority to do what the obumbler did.

    Ryano, daca was against it, and now he is for daca

  328. NYCmike says:

    “How long before you start citing Drudge polls as proof he’s still popular?”

    -Wasn’t Drudge saying Trump had a chance last November?

  329. Tina says:

    Daca also has no enforcement mechanism. The illegals are still illegal and they have mininmal screening.

    But they are kids with a median age of 26.

    Kids that likely live in mamas basement.

  330. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:48 pm
    “How do you like Trump saying he wants to keep the DACA people around?”
    -I believe he asked CONGRESS to do something about it……what will Mitch and Paul do is the real question.
    You are laughable…..defending Congress who seems to be utterly incompetent because they don’t have someone to lead them around like sheep.

    – And then your orange hero tweeted last might he’d revisit the issue if Congress doesn’t do anything. In other words, DACA is here to stay.

    But this is what I love about the Trump apologists. You act if the president is nothing more than a ceremonial position with no power. Wrong, as usual.

  331. Phil says:

    What’s new on Trump’s collusion with the Russians to steal the election, Robbie. Your friends at the NYT and CNN have been awful quiet. Since their Trump is a racist story has petered out I figured it was time to come back around to it again – especially since they didn’t get much out of their Pulitzer prize story and outrage over the first lady’s shoes.

  332. Tina says:

    The president has no power to do what the obumbker did.

    Only congresS.

    Sad that the jebots are too stupid to know constitutional law, just like their bff, obumbler.

  333. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:48 pm
    Bless your hear stated the drat in drag.

    – Bless your heart. You fell for Trump’s tweet that he was wiretapped. Must be so embarrassing to have defended this obvious lie for six months only to have Jefferson Beauregard Sessions’ DOJ say there was no evidence for Trump moronic claims.

  334. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    “How long before you start citing Drudge polls as proof he’s still popular?”
    -Wasn’t Drudge saying Trump had a chance last November?

    – You’re beyond hope. No wonder you’re willing to defend Trump no matter what.

    NYCMike in the future: Trump was smart to switch parties to Democrat because it’s the only way Ted Cruz’s conservative agenda can be passed.

  335. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm
    What’s new on Trump’s collusion with the Russians to steal the election, Robbie. Your friends at the NYT and CNN have been awful quiet. Since their Trump is a racist story has petered out I figured it was time to come back around to it again – especially since they didn’t get much out of their Pulitzer prize story and outrage over the first lady’s shoes.

    – As you well know, Phil, I have long said Trump was too much of a moron and an idiot to collude with Russia. But that doesn’t mean Trump didn’t shoot himself in the foot when he fired Comey because of Flynn. And if Trump and his lawyers weren’t concerned with obstruction charges, why have they been offering memos to Mueller as to why he didn’t obstruct justice?

    Again, I love, love, love the real conservative Tea Partiers who have lined up to defend Trump no matter what he does.

    It’s a silent coup!!!!!!!

  336. Robbie says:

    Quick. Someone post a hot take from gateway Pundit saying this wrong.

    Axios?
    @axios 44m
    44 minutes ago

    Art of the Deal? Not so much. President Trump handed Pelosi and Schumer the deal of the century this morning.

    https://www.axios.com/trumps-deal-with-chuck-and-nancy-2482300036.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=textlong&utm_term=politics

  337. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm
    What’s new on Trump’s collusion with the Russians to steal the election, Robbie. Your friends at the NYT and CNN have been awful quiet. Since their Trump is a racist story has petered out I figured it was time to come back around to it again – especially since they didn’t get much out of their Pulitzer prize story and outrage over the first lady’s shoes.

    – And by the way, Phil. I absolutely hope Mueller finds something criminal that forces Trump, a life long Democrat, from office. He is an incompetent disgrace who is systematically destroying the Republican Party one day at a time.

    I know that won’t happen, but it is my hope.

  338. Tina says:

    It was not a secret that you hoped to waste money finding something,

  339. Tina says:

    Maybe, you can find something at the wp about muh russian. You are invested in it, and it is no state secret.

  340. Tina says:

    DanRiehl @DanRiehl
    ·
    13m
    Point being, this GOP Congress has no moral or political authority, let alone a base of support, to cry about anything. Sad.

  341. Tina says:

    Yeah, what is new with muh russian?

  342. Tina says:

    Scott Greer @ScottMGreer
    ·
    52m
    Republicans, getting nothing done with congressional power: “How DARE Trump make a deal with Democrats on issue we’ll cave on anyway?”

    Lol.

    The republicrats were for hurricane relief, and raising the debt limit until the midterm.

  343. Tina says:

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1BH2P4

    Mitchie gets rolled.

    He supports the trump deal.

    Lol, they are dumber than dumb.

  344. Tina says:

    McConnell said Hurricanes Harvey and Irma constituted a national emergency. “His feeling was that we needed to come together to not create a picture of divisiveness at a time of genuine national crisis,” he said of Trump.

    Lol, mitchie. He is right on this matter.

  345. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    When it comes to crafting legislation, Congress can do what it wants…..the same legislation sent to Obama could have been sent to Trump.

    Do you deny they have this power?

  346. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted
    Sean Spicier
    Sean Spicier @sean_spicier
    ·
    Sep 5
    With DACA being rescinded, the Obama library will now consist of golf clubs and a losing March Madness bracket

  347. Phil says:

    So Trump is now pushing Heidi in ND in her reelection effort.

    Well, once a Democrat always a Democrat.

    Nice going Mr President.

    Dumbass.

  348. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 6:07 pm
    It was not a secret that you hoped to waste money finding something,

    – And it’s no a secret you fell for Trump’s claim Obama wiretapped him. Sad!

  349. Bitterlaw says:

    I knew that NYC would find a way to support Trump dealing with Schumer and Pelosi. It willbe Republicans to blame if they approve the deal but it will never be Trump’s fault for working out the deal.

    I will just watch the 50 “But Bitter…..” posts.

  350. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 7:06 pm
    So Trump is now pushing Heidi in ND in her reelection effort.
    Well, once a Democrat always a Democrat.
    Nice going Mr President.
    Dumbass.

    – And this is precisely why I cannot stand the man and why I cannot understand why certain parts of the conservative base support him as if he is a mystical or religious figure.

  351. Bitterlaw says:

    Obama’s March Madness picks were weak. He was a notorious chalk follower.

  352. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    September 6, 2017 at 7:10 pm
    I knew that NYC would find a way to support Trump dealing with Schumer and Pelosi. It willbe Republicans to blame if they approve the deal but it will never be Trump’s fault for working out the deal.
    I will just watch the 50 “But Bitter…..” posts.

    – NYCMike in the not too distant future. It was smart for Trump switch to the Democrat Party. It’s the only way Ted Cruz’s Tea Party agenda can be achieved. Schumer and Pelosi know how to get things done while McConnell Schumer don’t.

  353. Robbie says:

    About the only good thing that happened in the two weeks I was gone was the final two episodes of Game of Thrones.

  354. Tina says:

    No the only good thing.

    No muh russian news.

    You blew it

  355. jason says:

    As they say, those who like sausage and politics should not watch it being made…

    “President Trump invited Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) on stage Wednesday during his event to push tax reform in her home state, sharing kind words for the senator from across the aisle ahead of her tough reelection fight.
    As Trump started his event in Bismarck, he called Heitkamp up alongside Sen. John Hoeven, Rep. Kevin Cramer, Gov. Doug Burgum and Lt. Gov. Brent Sanford — all Republican lawmakers.

    Heitkamp, who flew to the event with Trump on Air Force One along with Hoeven and Cramer, stood out as the only Democrat, a fact Trump made clear and she stepped on stage.

    “These are great people, they work hard, they are for you 100 percent and we just want their support,” Trump said about congressional approval for a tax overhaul.

    “Sen. Heitkamp. Everyone’s saying, ‘What’s she doing up here?’ But I’ll tell you what — good woman, and I think we’ll have your support, I hope we’ll have your support. Thank you very much, senator.”

  356. jason says:

    If Heitkamp really wanted to stay in the Senate, she should switch parties.

  357. Tina says:

    Jonathan Turley’s opinion piece on the Hill regarding DACA rescind and the loons who supposedly are going to challenge:
    “…they (loons) would presumably be asking a court to say that Trump could not use the same power to rescind DACA that Obama used to create it. Since the power is the same, what remains is the merits of the policy, something courts have long avoided under the political question doctrine. They would have to say that undocumented individuals can be allowed to stay but not ordered to leave by executive order.”

    No doubt they judge shop.

  358. Tina says:

    I am not sure flake r mccain will support a tax package.

    He needs some ds support. Heck even bush 43 got some.

  359. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    What would you like me to say? I don’t like it? Is that good? I already said that earlier today.

    ALL YEAR, I have been waiting for conservative solutions to be crafted into bills, and I have received NOTHING.

    Now, in an emergency, a non-ideological President found common ground with Democrats on something which I have not seen one alternative proposal on.

    Where is the Republican alternative that was not accepted?

    Why wasn’t it already passed, or at least debated on?

    Stop making excuses for these people.

    The President can only sign what Congress gives him. Either have Congressional leaders make a stand, or get the F*CK out of the way for leaders who will.

  360. jason says:

    I guess one of the funniest things here is to see poor Wobbie, who probably always hated Pence with a passion and never had a good word to say about him in the past, now suddenly wants Pence to be President.

    I would have preferred Pence too. But he didn’t run for President. And he didn’t win.

    Trump won. Get over it.

  361. Tina says:

    The rs had no alternative.

    Ryano had no plan.

    Mitchie agreed with trump.

  362. NYCmike says:

    In regards to Heitkamp, what is the issue?

    She either votes with Republicans now for, fingers-crossed, a conservative tax reform plan, or she sticks with the Democrats and votes NO.

    Maybe you get a YES vote, or maybe you get a new Senator, hopefully both, unless she switches party, but I would rather replace her.

    That is a win-win: Either tax reform passes, or a Republican Senator.

  363. Phil says:

    Robbie, I support Trump when he does something that gets him attacked by the left. I like his judges. He’s right on immigration and it’s also nice to not see someone always bow to the god of political correctness. Also like that he is cutting regulations and got us out of the ridiculous Paris agreement.

    On the flip side there are times I wish he’d shut the hell up = like personally attacking a nobody on an MSNBC morning show. Praising a Democratic Senator in a tough red state reelection? Unacceptable and plain assed stupid.

  364. jason says:

    Bitter, NYC will always be at war with himself.

    Watching him struggle with his own intellectual dishonesty is painful to watch.

    Rubio shaking hands with Schumer….horrors, primary him. Trump funding Schumer for decades, no problem.

    Ted Cruz grandstanding on the debt ceiling? What a hero. Trump making deals with Dems for more spending? No problem. Trump proposing 1 trillion in infrastructure pork? No problem. The problem is Corker whose “crime” was to expose the Iran deal (yes deal, not treaty) for what it was. The problem is McConnell and Ryan who are actually trying to govern instead of grandstanding.

    When all the RINOS are replaced with liberal Democrats, NYC will be happy. Until then, he is relegated to fighting a fight to his intellectual death with himself.

  365. Phil says:

    That praise of a Democratic Senator in a red state Trump carried by 38 percentage points is gonna make a hell of a campaign commercial for Heidi. She’s playing Trump like a fiddle and he’s letting her. Tell us Donald, when she goes back for another six years who is she going to listen to you or Schumer?

  366. Trump says:

    If the GOP wants to have any say, it needs to pass bills.

    Not difficult to grasp.

    Except for the perpetually tortured cretins like Robbie and Bitterlaw.

  367. Trump says:

    McConnell and Ryan trying to govern?

    Ha ha ha ha.

    Can’t pass a .5mm kidney stone, these useless idiots.

  368. Trump says:

    8 percent approval rating.

  369. Trump says:

    Who are these cretin 8 percent?

  370. Bitterlaw says:

    It is not Trump’s fault. He is a non-ideological person just making deals with 2 of the biggest leftists to ever serve in Congress.

  371. Trump says:

    McConnell job approval rating – 18 percent.

    In Kentucky.

  372. Trump says:

    Trump getting things done.

    Unlike Ryan and McConnell.

    Even McConnell admits it.

  373. Bitterlaw says:

    What will JC do now? Attack Trump for dealing with Democrats? No. He will praise as the leader the GOP needs.

  374. Trump says:

    McConnell to support Trump-Democratic deal on debt ceiling, Harvey – Reuters

    This is what a whipped dog looks like.

    Your conservative leaders.

  375. Trump says:

    What a bunch of fu cked up losers.

  376. Tina says:

    Why did mitchie agree with trump.

    Ryano is just covering for his dava flip flop.

  377. Trump says:

    What’s the beef with Trump making deals with Pelosi and schumer?

    GOP leaders love it, see Mitch McConnell.

    Relieves him of the responsibility of doing anything.

  378. Trump says:

    McConnell agrees with Trump because he is whipped cur licking his master’s hands.

    What else could a 8 percent-approval loser do?

  379. Tina says:

    Mitch McConnell had refused to meet with Trump for weeks, now GOP cries because Trump retaliated on debt ceiling. Welcome to hard ball.

    I forgot about this. I think politic reportred this

  380. Trump says:

    “His feeling was that we needed to come together…” He said of Trump.

    Trump the Uniter. The nevertrump losers triggered again.

  381. Phil says:

    Who do I hate worse? Schumer and Pelosi or McConnell and Ryan?

    Swamp creatures the whole lot of them.

  382. Trump says:

    Mcconnel and Ryan have the power to advance GOP agenda.

    They are just too stupid and incompetent.

    Thus, 8 percent job approval.

  383. Trump says:

    All McConnell has left is grovel ing like a beaten dog.

  384. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 7:54 pm
    Robbie, I support Trump when he does something that gets him attacked by the left. I like his judges. He’s right on immigration and it’s also nice to not see someone always bow to the god of political correctness. Also like that he is cutting regulations and got us out of the ridiculous Paris agreement.

    – So conservatism has been reduced to pissing off the liberals?

    From the nuclear fallout bunker, “I know 100 million people just got killed, but the libs are going to be so triggered.”

  385. Trump says:

    What are you babbling about, cretin Robbie?

    What 100 million people killed?

  386. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “but in the process the president brazenly rolled his own party leaders.”

    “Chuck and Nancy” as he amiably referred later to (Schumer and Pelosi)”.

    “After the meeting, Trump boarded a plane to North Dakota with Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp in an effort to garner bipartisan support for tax legislation”

    Wait a minute, don’t the Democrats believe Trump is totally EVIL. Now there making deals with him. And just at the point at which the gloating Republican leaders thought they had Trump cornered and defeated.

    The writer of the “Art of the Deal” comes through.

  387. Trump says:

    Hasn’t trump given enough leeway to Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber, Ryan and McConnell, to get something done?

    What are these incompetent fools waiting for?

  388. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 6, 2017 at 7:49 pm
    I guess one of the funniest things here is to see poor Wobbie, who probably always hated Pence with a passion and never had a good word to say about him in the past, now suddenly wants Pence to be President.

    I would have preferred Pence too. But he didn’t run for President. And he didn’t win.

    Trump won. Get over it.

    – The biggest fraud at HHR has returned from his Summer absence to resume shilling for Trump “because he won”. In 2015 and 2016, he tough talked Trump every day. Now that he won with an R next to his name, he deserves support even as he sides with the Democrats.

    In early 2011, Pence was one of the candidates I would have supported had he run. He’s not my ideal choice, but I’ll take him over a low life like Trump who is destroying the Republican Party.

  389. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    399. Robbie your back, and you still sound like a broken record.

  390. Trump says:

    8 percent approval rating.

    There’s still room to fall. After all, stupid idiots like Bitterlaw and Robbie cannot be more than .0005 percent of the population.

  391. lisab says:

    So conservatism has been reduced to pissing off the liberals?
    ————————-

    you only come here to troll

    and

    trump pissing you off is just a side benefit

  392. Trump says:

    The greatest thing about Trump is the emotional torture he inflicts on cretins like Robbie and Bitterlaw.

  393. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:17 pm
    Who do I hate worse? Schumer and Pelosi or McConnell and Ryan?

    Swamp creatures the whole lot of them.

    – Yeah, I can totally understand how you might hate McConnell/Ryan as much as you hate to uber liberals like Schumer/Pelosi.

    I mean McConnell/Ryan favor abortion on demand, higher and higher taxes, support liberal judges, and want more regulations.

    On the other hand, Trump has been part of the conservative movement for decades, pushed conservative budgets and judges, and never donated to Democrats like Schumer/Pelosi.

    Trumpism has caused sane people to claim McConnell and Ryan (the 2012 VP nominee) are no better than Pelosi and Schumer.

  394. lisab says:

    The greatest thing about Trump is the emotional torture he inflicts on cretins like Robbie and Bitterlaw.
    ——————-

    well … at least robbie and cg

    hhr would be far less entertaining if robbie did not whine everyday

    i hope trump tweets soon

  395. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:26 pm
    399. Robbie your back, and you still sound like a broken record.

    – Everyone here is a broken record. Deal with it.

  396. Tina says:

    Zzzz, more of the same dribble.

  397. Tina says:

    The clintune groupie and the jebot are funny.

  398. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Heitkamp by flying in Air Force One with Trump and attending a rally with him, might end up attracting a primary challenger.

    As the Democrats goes increasingly to the left, the party is going to head into civil war.

  399. Tina says:

    DanRiehl @DanRiehl
    ·
    24m
    Such hypocrites, fine to float a story about Kasich-Hickenlooper unity play in 2020, but end of the world if Trump makes a deal with a dem

    Never trumpers aka drats in drag and jebots wanted this ticket. Only days ago.

  400. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:27 pm
    So conservatism has been reduced to pissing off the liberals?
    ————————-

    you only come here to troll

    and

    trump pissing you off is just a side benefit

    – Trump’s not president to govern. He’s there to troll. Wow. What a great president. You sad sacks who support this crappy person should be ashamed, but you won’t be because you clearlt have no core beliefs.

    Now, go ahead and call em gay as a way to diminish me for not supporting your precious Trump.

  401. Trump says:

    Trump needs heitdkamp to counter backstabbing traitors like McCain, Collins and murkowski.

  402. Tina says:

    Mitchie will vote yes.

    Daca Ryano who knows, but he is ineffective, much like in the 2012 vp debate. Destroyed by psycho joe.

  403. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:34 pm
    Zzzz, more of the same dribble.

    – I agree. Your six months of believing Trump’s claim he was wiretapped was nothing more than dribble.

    Sorry you threw away the last bit of credibility you had by believing that Trump lie.

  404. Tina says:

    Are mccain and flake and the rino of the day for tax cuts. Seems like he needs to add some drat support in the senate. Otherwise, we get a replay of obubmlercare still being the law of the land

  405. Trump says:

    Quit whining,mas$hole.

    How old are you, 3?

  406. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:35 pm
    The clintune groupie and the jebot are funny.

    – Trump’s own DOJ said Obama didn’t wiretap him. Your belief Obama did was funny.

  407. Tina says:

    You beleived muh russian and had the 2016 mother of all worst pr dictions. Those and broken convention and steal the no ination were also your predictions.

    Worst drat poster here.

  408. Tina says:

    Yeah, they did no wiretaps of anybody.

    If you believe that, i will sell you a bridge

  409. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:38 pm
    Quit whining,mas$hole.

    How old are you, 3?

    – Quit posting here. You’re a troll who is really a Democrat and hates Trump. What are you, 3?

  410. Trump says:

    Moron, the doj only said they can’t find evidence of FBI wiretapping trump.

    1) did they look?

    2).nsa?

    Who ordered the trump dossier?

  411. Tina says:

    And in neespapers loved by the jebots, nj menemdez, ann navarros bff, is a republican.

  412. Trump says:

    The fake trump dossier, cretin.

  413. lisab says:

    Trump’s not president to govern. He’s there to troll.
    ————–

    no he is governing

    you crying like a little snowflake is just funny

  414. Tina says:

    The trump dossier is jeb or hillary paying for the fake dossier, using foreigners, who sourced through russians, to interferre in the election,

    Then, comedy continued to pay doing lip service to hillary.

  415. Trump says:

    Trump is the only one governing.

    Can’t accuse Ryan and Mitch of governing.

  416. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:39 pm
    Yeah, they did no wiretaps of anybody.

    If you believe that, i will sell you a bridge

    – LOLOLOLOL!

    I get it. You spent six months pushing a lie and now you look dumber than you ever have before. Doubling down and claiming Jeff Sessions is lying and Trump really was wiretapped his so funny.

    Never fear. You can Louise Mensch can meet someone (maybe a rubber room) and commiserate.

  417. Tina says:

    No senators are bitching about th deal that they all had agreed to. No body. All smoke and mirrors.

    All were for the hurricane $

    All wanted the ceiling extended.

    All

  418. Tina says:

    You oushed muh russian, eight months of fake news.

    Now that the dossier is bbeing loooked at and creepy podesta was subpoenead, you gummed up.

  419. Trump says:

    The cretin has come back even more deranged than when he left.

    How is that possible?

  420. Tina says:

    They did not wiretap trump or transition officials.

    I will sell you a bridge.

  421. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:42 pm
    No senators are bitching about th deal that they all had agreed to. No body. All smoke and mirrors.

    All were for the hurricane $

    All wanted the ceiling extended.

    All

    – Trump could shoot Tina in the middle of Fifth Avenue and she’d tell us all how it was the right thing to do. Same with Mr. Tea Party NYCMike.

  422. Tina says:

    There is evidence that the flynn wiretap and other officials were wiretapped and trump was unmasked for political purposes.

    Even the un ambassador did unmasking.

  423. Trump says:

    Trump would be on my Rushmore if he shot McCain on fifth ave.

  424. Tina says:

    The alternatives were no debt ceiling and no hurricane money.

    they all agreed to this, and you are concerened about it.

  425. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:44 pm
    They did not wiretap trump or transition officials.

    I will sell you a bridge.

    – You really are the most uninformed poster here, but you do read GatewayPundit so that explains a lot.

    Trump officials wouldn’t have had their calls listened to if they weren’t speaking to Russians who were under surveillance by the FBI.

    Wake up. Your man was never wiretapped. He lied and you fell for it.

  426. Tina says:

    And mcmaster only sent his staffer to brief nunes on the wiretapping and unmasking.

  427. Trump says:

    The cretins are concerned because Trump took away their kabuki theater of pretending to be conservatives before approving the debt ceiling increase and Harvey relief funds.

    How are the poor saps going to fool voters now?

  428. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:45 pm
    There is evidence that the flynn wiretap and other officials were wiretapped and trump was unmasked for political purposes.

    Even the un ambassador did unmasking.

    – Bless your heart.

    Flynn wasn’t wiretapped. He stupidly spoke to a Russian who was being surveilled and then lied about it.

    It was a crime to unmask his name, but he wasn’t being wiretapped and neither was your orange hero, Trump.

  429. Tina says:

    Wiretapping is not just about phone calls.

    That is not the definition.

    Stick to paper airplanes.

  430. Tina says:

    You were wrong about muh russian. Wrong and silky.

  431. Trump says:

    The cretin doubling down on stupid.

    Some things never change.

    Let’s fantasize about president pence.

  432. Tina says:

    Stick to your russian loon conspiraces, and fantasies about a drat unity ticket.

    Btw, you ann navarro will give younfree muffins if you by your canddidates book,

  433. Trump says:

    President pence.

    Brokered convention.

    What’s the difference?

  434. Tina says:

    For the jebots it is president hillary with 350 evs.

  435. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzz. President Trump does not torture me. He had one job – beat Hillary. I expected nothing from him. Gorsuch was a bonus.

  436. Trump says:

    374 EVs.

    350 would make him just an MD and Author level stupid..

  437. lisab says:

    The cretin has come back even more deranged than when he left.

    How is that possible?
    ——————————-

    he has not gotten enough attention lately

  438. lisab says:

    President Trump does not torture me. He had one job – beat Hillary.
    ————————–

    yeah, you are not nearly as funny as cg and robbie

  439. Bitterlaw says:

    It would be sweet if the Trump-Schumer-Pelosi deal was decided by one vote in the Senate because McCain supported it. Tina, NYC, and JC would have to praise him for doing Trump’s bidding.

  440. Tina says:

    Gorsuch.

    Cuts to the fed gubment

    Border enforcement

    Crack down on criminals.

    All bonuses

  441. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:54 pm
    The cretin has come back even more deranged than when he left.

    How is that possible?
    ——————————-

    he has not gotten enough attention lately

    – I was in Europe for two weeks. Sorry my schedule didn’t suit your needs. Otherwise, go take a long walk off short pier, Trump apologist.

  442. Tina says:

    Mccain is a grown man. He is a maverick and does whatever the ohuq he does to harm the r party the most.

  443. Tina says:

    Came back from his euro vacation more deranged and stupid.

    Entertaining though.

  444. Trump says:

    Another loony post from the moron. Fantasizing about McCain being conservative.

    The deal will pass by 80+ vote margin in the senate.

    The beaten dog McConnell already surrendered.

  445. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:48 pm
    Wiretapping is not just about phone calls.

    That is not the definition.

    Stick to paper airplanes.

    – Stick to making hats out of tinfoil.

    On another topic, has Napolitano’s claim Obama used GCHQ to spy on Trump been verified?

    Allow me to answer that. No. It was another load of BS you fell for.

  446. Tina says:

    This is smart the debt limit gors through december.

    Mitchie and daca ryano wanted an omnibus bill.

    There plans just got upended.

  447. Tina says:

    Mitchie is for it.

    Flake and mccain can be against it since theynwill be concenred about the debt limot.

    Ryano can not vote for it.

  448. Bitterlaw says:

    But Trump does no harm to the GOP by praising a Dem Senator and working with Schumer and Pelosi? Got it.

  449. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:49 pm
    You were wrong about muh russian. Wrong and silky.

    – What was I wrong about, Tinfoil?

    That Trump was too incompetent to collude with Russia or that Manafort and Flynn were in deep trouble?

  450. Trump says:

    Trump harming the GOP is part of the deal, moron.

    That’s how he won the primaries, remember?

  451. Tina says:

    He said that she would be out of a job if she did not vote for the tax cuts.

    That is not praise imo, even though he called her a nice woman, or whatever.

    Imcalled pig,osi nice when I met her at my previous job. However, i was only being nice.

  452. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:50 pm
    Stick to your russian loon conspiraces, and fantasies about a drat unity ticket.

    – Stick to your claims that have been proven false by Trump’s own DOJ that he was wiretapped by Obama.

    You fell for such a lie and it makes me laugh all of the time.

  453. Tina says:

    You cited 10 fake news articles from the wp. You pushed eqch and every account.

  454. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:57 pm
    Mccain is a grown man. He is a maverick and does whatever the ohuq he does to harm the r party the most.

    – He served his country honorably. You would have broken under torture and sold everyone out.

  455. Phil says:

    Robbie, tell me more about this 100 million dead.

    LOL

  456. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 8:57 pm
    Came back from his euro vacation more deranged and stupid.

    Entertaining though.

    – Came back in a good mood. Then I saw your orange boy Donnie sold out the Republican Party and went with liberal Schumer and Pelosi.

    I want to make sure you sad sack Trump apologists are tarred and feathered with his awful presidency.

  457. lisab says:

    I was in Europe for two weeks. Sorry my schedule didn’t suit your needs.
    ———————————

    no worries …

    but hhr was not nearly as entertaining without you losing your mind everyday

  458. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:02 pm
    You cited 10 fake news articles from the wp. You pushed eqch and every account.

    – Bless your heart. Just because the Washington Post uses big words you don’t understand doesn’t mean it’s fake news. It just means you have a limited vocabulary.

    My favorite was the Donnie Jr. email story. You said the story was a lie right until Trump Jr. put out the emails and then you said he made a brilliant move.

  459. Tina says:

    Yeah sold out on a dral theynalready agrees to.

  460. Tina says:

    Bless your heart

    Wrote the drat troll.

    Did your hillary book not get shipped to you?

  461. Tina says:

    Nope, said they did not have the emails at the time.

    Donnie released them.

    Stay awak, drat. I know making paper planes in the basement is hard labor.

  462. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:03 pm
    Robbie, tell me more about this 100 million dead.

    LOL

    – If you can’t understand that was satire, then I don’t know what to say.

  463. Tina says:

    However, on muh russian, i have been right since day 1. I took every wp story you were concerned about and dissected it.

    Your are mad because of the focus on the dossier. Maybe jeb is going to jail. You are mad at the subpoena of podesta.

  464. Tina says:

    You are mad that comedy turned out to be a flake.

  465. Phil says:

    Pretty poor effort at satire then. Usually satire is used to illustrate a point…..and your point was exactly?

  466. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:04 pm
    I was in Europe for two weeks. Sorry my schedule didn’t suit your needs.
    ———————————

    no worries …

    but hhr was not nearly as entertaining without you losing your mind everyday

    – Losing your mind is defending/excusing Trump every day, regardless of what he does. In other words, you lost your mind a long time ago.

    Just admit you threw away your principles when you decided to go all in on Trump.

  467. Tina says:

    100 milliom dead.

    Ruined the r party

    Steal the nomination

    Comedy could not be fired

    350 evs

    Broken convention.

    All touted by loon.

  468. Trump says:

    Fu ck rad cretin Robbie thinks 100 m dead is satire.

  469. Tina says:

    The jebot has no point. The deal was made and all parties agreed to it. There is no right to recission at this point.

    Defend not giving the hurricane money and not doing the debt limit increase.

    We revisit it in december. No omnibus bills by daca ryano and ky stooge.

  470. Trump says:

    200 m dead would be double the fun, cretin Robbie?

  471. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:11 pm
    Pretty poor effort at satire then. Usually satire is used to illustrate a point…..and your point was exactly?

    – Did you elect a president to accomplish things or just trigger Democrats? And unfortunately, a lot of things that have supposedly triggered Democrats have also hurt Republicans. And when Republicans lose the House next year, it will be Republicans who are triggered by Trump.

  472. Trump says:

    The GOP should do something so as not to lose the house next year.

    Ha ha ha ha.

    Now that’s satire.

  473. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:11 pm
    100 milliom dead.

    Ruined the r party

    Steal the nomination

    Comedy could not be fired

    350 evs

    Broken convention.

    All touted by loon.

    – There will never be a special council

    Mike Flynn is not looking to cooperate

    The Don Jr. emails are fake news

    Obama wiretapped Trump

    Obama used GCHQ to spy on Trump

    Mueller winding down his investigation

    -All nutty things Tinfoil has said recently.

  474. Phil says:

    I gave you a list of things that Trump favors or has done. You just ignored that part of my post.

  475. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:12 pm
    The jebot has no point. The deal was made and all parties agreed to it. There is no right to recission at this point.

    Defend not giving the hurricane money and not doing the debt limit increase.

    We revisit it in december. No omnibus bills by daca ryano and ky stooge.

    – Like I said, Trump could shoot Tina in the middle of Fifth Avenue and she’d tell everyone she deserved it and Trump was right to shoot her.

  476. Trump says:

    As I said, the daily torture of stupid loons like Robbie and Bitterlaw are worth every trump vote.

  477. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    491. “like Robbie and Bitterlaw are worth every trump vote.”

    Bitterlaw was a Trump vote.

  478. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:16 pm
    I gave you a list of things that Trump favors or has done. You just ignored that part of my post.

    – Gorsuch. That’s it. And sadly, that will probably be the only significant accomplishment of 2017. And oh by the way, who got Gorsuch through the Senate? McConnell who changed the rules to do it. But you seem to hate him as much as Schumer and Pelosi.

  479. Tina says:

    The jebot is out of ammo.

    Have fun with the paper plane making.

  480. Trump says:

    Doesn’t matter. The daily emotional torture is the key.

  481. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:18 pm
    As I said, the daily torture of stupid loons like Robbie and Bitterlaw are worth every trump vote.

    – As I said, soccer idiot it a Democrat who hates Republicans and Trump, but spends his day here trolling.

  482. Tina says:

    7 years and they could not repeal obumblercare.

    Give us the house

    Give us the senate

    Give us the presidency.

    7 years.

  483. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    486. “And when Republicans lose the House next year, it will be Republicans who are triggered by Trump.”

    Are you predicting this Robbie? Just want to be sure, so we can add it to you long list of failed predictions from the November 2016 election.

  484. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:20 pm
    The jebot is out of ammo.

    Have fun with the paper plane making.

    – Do you sell your tinfoil hats through your own website, or do you have to get them through 4Chan?

  485. Diamond Jim says:

    D iamond Jim

  486. lisab says:

    Just admit you threw away your principles when you decided to go all in on Trump.
    —————————————

    still not a trump supporter, i just like that he makes you nuts

    now dance monkey boy!

  487. Tina says:

    Jebot forgets

    Economy

    Reg cuts largest since reagan

    11k cuts to the federal workforce. Epa the same size as it was under reagan.

    No me wars despite the efforts of goober and mccain.

  488. Trump says:

    Because your daily torture is worth it.

    Jeb!

    Consider that this is the cretin’s hero.

    How low can you be?

  489. Tina says:

    He has done this despite a hostile r congress that has opened more investigations of muh russian, wasting taxpayer money.

  490. Tina says:

    Hostile and inefective since ryan is not a leader and mitchie is a turtle.

  491. Phil says:

    I said judges , not A judge. I said withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement. I said cut regulations, I said I liked his views on immigration….

    Get it right.

  492. Tina says:

    I personally would have recommended elimination of the departments of education, the epa, and energy.

    I would cut the state department down to the barest minimum.

  493. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:22 pm
    486. “And when Republicans lose the House next year, it will be Republicans who are triggered by Trump.”

    Are you predicting this Robbie? Just want to be sure, so we can add it to you long list of failed predictions from the November 2016 election.

    – Trump’s at 38% nationally (but Rasmussen!!!). If his approval is that low on election day next year, yes I believe Republicans will lose the House.

    As for you, I’ve got a long list of all your Rasmussen pimping. Twitter polls are almost as good as Rasmussen.

  494. lisab says:

    Did you elect a president to accomplish things or just trigger Democrats?
    ————————————

    that he triggers you and other snowflakes is certainly a pretty big benefit

  495. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:23 pm
    Jebot forgets

    Economy

    Reg cuts largest since reagan

    11k cuts to the federal workforce. Epa the same size as it was under reagan.

    No me wars despite the efforts of goober and mccain.

    – If any of that mattered, Trump wouldn’t be at 38% nationally. People are looking past the economy and judging him on his terrible personal behavior.

  496. Phil says:

    I thought Rasmussen Clinton +2 got it right on the money.

    Twitter polls?

  497. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:27 pm
    Did you elect a president to accomplish things or just trigger Democrats?
    ————————————

    that he triggers you and other snowflakes is certainly a pretty big benefit

    – Maybe you can put that in the 2020 platform. How cares about legislative accomplishments. He pisses of neverTrump and Democrats.

  498. Trump says:

    The fu ck Ed idiot still citing fake polls.

    So stupid nobody can save him.

    what time did you melt on nov 8, cretin Robbie?

  499. Trump says:

    Triggering you has a,ways been in trump’s platform, cretin.
    That’s how he won.

  500. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:29 pm
    I thought Rasmussen Clinton +2 got it right on the money.

    Twitter polls?

    – Blind squierrl finds a nut. rasmussen is garbage as is all robo-polling. Remember when Rassy had Trump at almost 60% at the start of his administration? Ha!

  501. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:31 pm
    Triggering you has a,ways been in trump’s platform, cretin.
    That’s how he won.

    – You’re a Democrat. Go find a Democrat forum.

  502. Trump says:

    Where is your butt fu cker Jeb these days?

    Will trump rescind his DACA card?

  503. Phil says:

    Just donated $100 to JJ watt’s hurricane relief fund. It’s closing in on 29 million – over 190,000 donors.

    Nice going, JJ. Not bad for a jock.

  504. lisab says:

    as a non-laughing at robbie aside …

    we started school today. a new young teacher had the second graders ….

    at one point she told the children to draw a picture of something they liked …

    one boy drew a picture of her drowning 🙂

    she was soooooooooo upset … wanted to tell the principal …

    i think she won’t last long …

  505. Robbie says:

    Since we’re all about triggering.

    I hope Trump is forced from office.

    Silent coup! Silent coup! Silent coup!

  506. Trump says:

    You should find a cretin forum, Robbie.

    You will be a hero there.

  507. Tina says:

    Watt is doing a great job, phil.

  508. Phil says:

    Blind squirrel. Oh, that’s what it was.

    Got it.

  509. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    510. “If any of that mattered, Trump wouldn’t be at 38% nationally. People are looking past the economy and judging him on his terrible personal behavior.”

    Which is why Senator Heitkamp is flying with him on Air Force 1, and attended his rally in her home state, where she is running for re-election next year. And why he is make deals his friends “Chuck and Nancy.” Even walking and chatting away with Schumer, like old times when they were buds. Am sure some on this board would consider this “terrible personal behaviour.” Others, including me, would say he finally has got better staff, and has figured the system out.

  510. Tina says:

    45/48 nationalky and heading uo since he told ryano to piss off

  511. Trump says:

    Well, your hoping will ensure trump for the next 8 years, cretin Robbie.

    That’s your track record.

  512. lisab says:

    Maybe you can put that in the 2020 platform. How cares about legislative accomplishments. He pisses of neverTrump and Democrats. robbie

    Triggering you has a,ways been in trump’s platform, cretin. That’s how he won. trump

    – You’re a Democrat. Go find a Democrat forum. robbie
    ———————————-

    wait … i thought he pisses off democrats?!!!!!

    robbie has almost gone full robbie … never go full robbie 🙂

  513. Trump says:

    Maybe if you said trump was fantastic, I’d be worried, cretin Robbie.

  514. Phil says:

    Lisa, as a former junior high teacher I can relate. Agreed, she better get some thicker skin. I agree doesn’t sound like she’ll last long. Welcome to the wonderful world of education. Ha

  515. Trump says:

    Trump does not piss me off.

    Ergo, I cannot be a democrat . Or a nevertrumper.

  516. Tina says:

    We add silent coup to brokerd convention.

    Loon.

  517. lisab says:

    i actually started as a middle/high school math education major until i cried every day in my student teaching assignment …

    my advisor and the principal suggested i switch to elementary … unfortunately at the time elementary was in the college of education and math teachers were in the college of liberal arts and sciences, with a minor in education,

    so i had to give up my math major

  518. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    515. “Blind squierrl finds a nut. rasmussen is garbage as is all robo-polling.

    Robbie quoted the Rasmussen poll when it showed Trump with low approval. He always goes for the lowest poll. For example today on Real Clear Politics, Rasmussen had Trump at 45%, Reuters/Ipso at 40%, Economist/You Gov at 42%. Gallup was at 37%. Robbie uses 38%.

  519. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Have to agree with everyone, Robbie seems more unhinged now than before, and before was quite a lot.

    Don’t know if it is Trump’s abrupt change to better behavior, or a realization that Trump will be around until 2020. Imagine Trump’s recent chumminess with Democrats could be a factor. Wait until he starts playing golf with Obama at Trump resorts.

    By the way, who does Robbie think is going to be doing the “silent coup.”

  520. Phil says:

    Lisa, I got both of my degrees in poly sci with the intention of teaching intro government in a junior college. Turned out that there weren’t any JC jobs when I graduated because there were too many PHD’s who couldn’t find jobs at four year universities so they all gravitated down and scooped up the community college jobs.

    Was newly married with a baby on the way and we had to eat sooo….. Got a teaching certificate looking to find a temporary job teaching in the public schools. Only job available in a decent school district was a junior high history position. Bottom line was I stayed there 34 years and as you can imagine, could I tell you some stories. Yeah, I have reptile like thick skin. I understand completely why you cried.

  521. lisab says:

    “… Economist/You Gov at 42%. Gallup was at 37%. Robbie uses 38%.”

    and that is why he is so funny …

    i would honestly feel bad for him if he was so crazy in real life.

  522. lisab says:

    Yeah, I have reptile like thick skin. I understand completely why you cried.
    ————————————–

    i was young and idealistic … i thought i would be the cool hip teacher …

    then i joined the peace corps and was cured of idealism

  523. Phil says:

    Three days in junior high took care of my idealism. Idealism was replaced in very short order by a sense of survival.

  524. lisab says:

    lol …

  525. lisab says:

    i lasted one week at my placement before they switched me

  526. lisab says:

    well … four days

  527. Tina says:

    Noght gang. The lon has me bored. I have been up since 3 am. 4 mile walk plus yard work all before 8 am due to hot weather.

  528. Tina says:

    Buried in the article, the New York Times admitted there is zero evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians:

    To date, while news reports have uncovered many meetings and contacts between Trump associates and Russians, there has been no evidence proving collusion in the hacking or other Russian activities.

    Tell that to loon.

  529. lisab says:

    “moral disgrace” – this argument is so easily defined……. nyc

    – Yes, it applies quite easily to the people who continue to support Trump as he destroys the Republican Party one day at a time. robbie
    ————————————————

    i meant to point this out earlier, but was having too much fun …

    notice how robbie makes trump supporters immoral …

    you are not just people with a different opinion, you are immoral! in fact one might almost say you are a basket of deplorables!

    it is exactly antifa’s excuse for using violence, because those who oppose them are immoral

  530. NYCmike says:

    Robbie and “CG” make for fun times!

    Tell me again how Trumps tweets kept Congress from passing the same repeal that Obama vetoed??

    Bitterlaw, how lame is Congress that they can’t vote on the same law as one they had already passed!?

  531. NYCmike says:

    McCain is NOT immoral for his dalliances when with his first wife and with the S&L’s?

  532. Tina says:

    An aide briefed on the meeting said that Republican leaders originally proposed an 18-month hike to the debt ceiling, which would avoid any further confrontations on it past the 2018 midterms, then offered a six-month extension before the president agreed to the Democrats’ desired three-month extension.

    So, the r leasership orriginally proposed 18 month extension, then 6 months.

    http://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548935056/trump-sides-with-democrats-in-deal-on-storm-relief-and-fiscal-deadlines

  533. Tina says:

    So, he settled for 3 months instead of a 6 months.

    Drats were for no debt ceiling increase.

    0 for drats, like rottie.

    3 for trump

    6 for ryano, but not mitchie, who sided with trump.

    Inam confused bynhow trump so,d out the rs. This is paycho babble.

  534. Tina says:

    Cnbc reports that cohn will not be picked to head federal reserve.

    Cohn. Is the worst pick in the admin,

  535. lisab says:

    personally i think it is unwise for either side to play politics with the hurricane relief.

    also, i don’t think the dems have much of a hand. obama raised the debt by $10 trillion!

    trump could just let the government shut down. what could the dems do?

    dems: “WE WON’T RAISE THE DEBT CEILING!!!!!”
    trump: “fine … all you non-essential government employees — you are not getting paid … and i don’t care!”

  536. CG says:

    548. McCain never claimed to be a person who had not found himself in need of forgiveness.

  537. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “McConnell later suggested that Trump had pushed for the deal because “his feeling was that we needed to come together, to not create a picture of divisiveness at a time of genuine national crisis,” with Harvey having devastated coastal Texas and Hurricane Irma threatening the Caribbean and Florida.”

    Gee, sounds like Trump genuinely cared for the people impacted by the hurricanes; versus McConnell and Ryan who would have attempted to delay things to negotiate further, which would have been a public relations disaster for the Republicans. There was a reason that Obama was able to walk all over McConnell and Ryan in the last years of his term.

  538. Tina says:

    it is exactly antifa’s excuse for using violence, because those who oppose them are immoral

    What happened to them? The jebots were loving them a fee weeks ago.

  539. Tina says:

    So,tweedle,dee,and tweedle dum go from 18 to 6. Great negotiating there.

  540. Tina says:

    It also seems like daca ryano wanted to,soend two weeks on hurricane relief and debt ceiling.

  541. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    557. McConnell and Ryan seemed more focused on trying to get a favorable position for next years elections, then in expediting hurricane relief. Once the outcry over the delay in hurricane relief funds took place, they would have immediately folded — and looked weak and vacillating.

  542. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    14h
    I’d be a lot more concerned about Trump screwing up the GOPe’s plan if I wasn’t absolutely convinced the GOPe had no plan at all. ?

  543. Tina says:

    Sdc, i do not get the criticism of trump,re the hurricane relief and debt ceiling. It is pretty clear ryan and mitchiemhad no plan.

    They had an 18 mo,figure, which appears to have been quickly changed to 6 mo.

  544. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    3h
    Replying to @mikekmcd and @DocWashburn
    I hear a lot about how I’m not conservative and how Trump is terrible, but no one explains the brilliant GOP plan he disrupted.?

    Fake outrage by drats in drag.

  545. Tina says:

    What was the gop plan?

  546. NYCmike says:

    One more reason why ALL Republicans need to get on board with the RAISE ACT (Cotton/Perdue):

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/09/05/graham-durbin-make-case-win-win-dream-act-trump-signals-revisit-congress-fails-save-dreamers/

    “Durbin noted that agreeing to a border wall in order to pass the DREAM Act would be “a wall too far.””

    The Democrats will not bargain with Republicans. It is their way or the highway.

    Of course, people like Goober Graham make it easy for them to do this, since they do NOT want border security, and they do NOT want a reduction in social services to immigrants.

    BUT, Trump is the problem……..

  547. NYCmike says:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/KurtSchlichter/2017/09/07/curse-of-the-woke-conservatives-n2377758

    ““Republicans, you can be proud of me! I went to Washington, left Obamacare in place, complained that Donald Trump was mean to the liberals who hate us, and started down the road to amnesty, just like you wanted! And by ‘you’ I mean the Wall Street Journal editorial board, some fussy Never Trumpers on Twitter, and the GOP wonks who used to read Ayn Rand books while normal guys were kissing girls.””

  548. NYCmike says:

    There are a couple other parts which should trigger the usual suspects.

  549. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/09/06/trump-wants-see-daca-deal-chuck-nancy-make-lot-happy-people/

    -And it starts.

    He just wants to make deals. Push Cotton/Perdue, and compromise that with a DREAM ACT for those already in the country.

    If Trump lets down Republicans and says forget about Cotton/Perdue, then DO NOTHING, and put the onus on the Executive Branch to keep ENFORCING CURRENT LAW.

  550. jason says:

    The MSM is not dead yet

    “New Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters still think, when it comes to immigration reform, gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in the United States. Slightly more (47%), however, believe that legalizing those who are already here is more important.”

  551. Wobbles says:

    Trump up to 45%?

    You probably won’t see me here today.

  552. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Just remember that Trump is non-ideological when he deals with Pelosi and Schumer.

  553. Jonesy says:

    GOP Congressman Tim Murphy, admits to affair with married woman. Just great

  554. Jonesy says:

    Murphy is in the Pittsburgh area

  555. NYCmike says:

    He is always non-ideological in my book, or at the least, non-political.

    He worked with the Republicans in dealing with his cabinet and judge picks (so far) because they worked with him against Hillary.

    Then, Mitch, Paul, and people like you went wobbly and spiteful, and DID NOT GIVE HIM THE SAME REPEAL BILL AS WAS VETOED BY OBAMA, so no deals were made.

    Mitch, Paul, and people like you (have all the points you want, by the way) went timid, instead of being BOLD.

    So, NO DEALS!

    You can’t blame Trump if there are no bills to sign…..well,then again, you always figure out a way to protect those incumbents that don’t govern as they campaigned.

  556. NYCmike says:

    Wow!

    So instead of Repealing Obamacare bills coming out of Congress, we went back to incumbents repelling voters with timidity and immorality.

    If only Trump had acted immorally while President…..

  557. Trump says:

    I know you morons have difficulty with common sense.

    But follow me on a simple question:

    Why make deals with someone who can’t deliver?

  558. NYCmike says:

    Trump wants to make deals….that is why the same legislation vetoed by Obama should have been sent up to him….voters asked for something different, and got it.

    THEN, after Obamacare was repealed, work on individual pieces one by one, and find out what is truly “popular”, as judged by the number of votes it receives in Congress…..you know, by the REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE!

  559. Jonesy says:

    Trump made more great Judicial picks today, including the DC Court of Appeals

  560. NYCmike says:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-flock-to-trump-properties-to-give-birth-to-us-citizens?source=email&via=mobile

    -Please tell me if I am correct, that Cotton/Perdue would take care of situations like this. Under that bill, these Russian kids would NOT be granted United States citizenship.

    Yes? No?

  561. NYCmike says:

    And if that is correct, why would Republicans be against that bill?

  562. GPO says:

    didn’t see your post 576 Jonesy

  563. NYCmike says:

    Waingro,

    Trump wants to be a dealmaker, simple as that.

    He gave a Republican Congress 8 months, and they gave him bupkis.

    They better get themselves organized over some principles, because they will need to stay united to combat Trump, if he starts making deals with Schumer and Pelosi.

    Hopefully, they realize that they have the numbers, IF THEY STICK TOGETHER, and govern as they campaigned.

  564. Robbie says:

    So Trump announced today he will work with Schumer to get rid of the debt ceiling. Ha! The Trump worshipper have been played again by the lifelong Democrat Trump.

  565. jason says:

    Trump wants to be a dealmaker, simple as that.”

    LOL

    Translation: it’s ok now for me to sell out on all my “conservative” principles if that is what it takes.

    Of course, this is the same NYC who wanted anyone who ever suggested the word compromise be primaried, pilloried, and executed on sight.

  566. New York City says:

    Let me explain my position.

    When Trump sells out, no problem.

    But if the GOP congress tries to compromise to get something actually accomplished, horrors, hand those traitors.

  567. Robbie says:

    Another instance today where it’s clear the Trump worshippers have been played. How long before Donnie goes back to his roots and switches parties to become a Democrat again?

    Nancy Pelosi?
    @NancyPelosi

    Thank you for this commitment, Mr. President. Real protections will only come from your signing the DREAM Act ASAP.

  568. jason says:

    “Jason – Just remember that Trump is non-ideological when he deals with Pelosi and Schumer.”

    And Rubio is a communist traitor when he shakes hands with Schumer?

    Got it.

  569. Robbie says:

    Will the Trump worshippers at HHR switch their party affiliation to Democrat if Trump does so?

    Like I wrote yesterday, at some point in the future the Trumpies here will say it’s smart for Trump to work exclusively with Schumer and Pelosi. It’s all part of his 18D chess game to get the Ted Cruz agenda passed.

  570. jason says:

    I know you morons have difficulty with common sense.”

    I love this place.

    Yep, when I think of common sense, I think of Soccer Moron….

  571. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 12:47 pm
    And if that is correct, why would Republicans be against that bill?

    – If Trump says it, it’s conservative. If Ryan or McConnell says it, it’s RINO propaganda. And if none of that applies, so long as it trigger the liberals it’s awesome.

  572. jason says:

    I already switched my party affiliation to Independent because of Trump.

    No, I am not going Dem.

    Of course, Wobbie’s definition of “Trump Worshipper” is someone who actually accepts the results of the election.

  573. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 6, 2017 at 9:45 pm
    515. “Blind squierrl finds a nut. rasmussen is garbage as is all robo-polling.
    Robbie quoted the Rasmussen poll when it showed Trump with low approval. He always goes for the lowest poll. For example today on Real Clear Politics, Rasmussen had Trump at 45%, Reuters/Ipso at 40%, Economist/You Gov at 42%. Gallup was at 37%. Robbie uses 38%.

    – But Rasmussen!!!

    Rasmussen is garbage. Use it in an average if you want, but it’s only slight better than a Drudge poll or a Twitter poll.

  574. Waingro says:

    #588, my guess is he will just turn “independent” before he does that. Honestly, I’m not sure why he just doesn’t go ahead.

  575. jason says:

    NYC’s intellectual dishonesty and duplicity have finally caught up with him.

    That happens when you go for the “ends justify the means” strategy.

    NYC was dishonest about both Trump AND the GOP leadership.

    The lies have come home to roost.

  576. jason says:

    “Rasmussen is garbage.”

    LOL

    The only polls Wobbie believes in are those that fit his narrative.

    Another flamingly dishonest hack.

  577. Waingro says:

    #588, If Trump’s idea of “dealmaking” is dealing exclusively with Democrats, then count me out.

  578. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 7, 2017 at 2:24 pm
    I already switched my party affiliation to Independent because of Trump.
    No, I am not going Dem.
    Of course, Wobbie’s definition of “Trump Worshipper” is someone who actually accepts the results of the election.

    – You’re not a Trump worshipper. You just stupidly take up for him because he won an election with a R next to his name. So what that he won. That excuses his terrible behavior? No, of course not.

    Did you take up for Obama simply because he won? No. Did Trump take up for Obama because he won in 2008 and 2012. No. He claimed Obama wasn’t born in America. Sounds to me like he couldn’t accept the election results, but I don’t remember you ever having a problem with that.

  579. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    September 7, 2017 at 2:26 pm
    #588, my guess is he will just turn “independent” before he does that. Honestly, I’m not sure why he just doesn’t go ahead.

    – Obviously, I’m being somewhat tongue in cheek about him switching parties. My guess is he’d love to switch to Independent, but here’s the rub. He’d no longer have a party apparatus slavishly defending him or a national electoral infrastructure for 2020.

  580. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 7, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    “Rasmussen is garbage.”
    LOL
    The only polls Wobbie believes in are those that fit his narrative.
    Another flamingly dishonest hack.

    – Rasmussen is garbage. Robo-polling is trash. If it was any good, campaigns would use it over live caller surveys. They don’t even though it’s far cheaper.

    I follow the three main polling average: RCP, Huffpollster, and 538.

  581. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    September 7, 2017 at 10:52 am
    Trump up to 45%?
    You probably won’t see me here today.

    – Hi, Jason. I’m right here laughing at your ability to quote a Rasmussen poll.

  582. Robbie says:

    Just so we’re all clear, if a President Jeb, a President Rubio, a President Kasich, or a President Romney had cut the deal with Schumer/Pelosi that Orange Donnie did, the “real conservatives” here in everywhere else would be up in arms that we have a RINO president.

    When Orange Donnie cuts the deal, the cult members bow and praise their dear leader.

  583. Robbie says:

    Since Rasmussen is considered the gold standard by so many at HHR, explain this to me. How does a robo-pollster conduct a scientific national poll of all 50 states when there are certain states which bar robo-pollsters from making calls?

  584. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 1:50 pm
    Waingro,
    Trump wants to be a dealmaker, simple as that.
    He gave a Republican Congress 8 months, and they gave him bupkis.
    They better get themselves organized over some principles, because they will need to stay united to combat Trump, if he starts making deals with Schumer and Pelosi.
    Hopefully, they realize that they have the numbers, IF THEY STICK TOGETHER, and govern as they campaigned.

    – Wherein NYCMike once again tries to pretend that poor Donnie is an innocent bystander in the process of governance. Got some bad news for him, the presidency is not a ceremonial position.

    The reason nothing has been accomplished is Trump has provided no leadership. He hasn’t been able to tell Congressional leaders what he wants in any bill mostly because it’s clear he doesn’t understand policy. Does anyone think he could speak fluently on healthcare? Of course not.

    Without direct leadership from the president, the factions within the party go off in their separate directions. That’s what has happened.

    But never fear, lifelong Democrat Trump has now teamed up with his new legislative team of Schumer and Pelosi and they will, no doubt, deliver on the conservative agenda NYCMike wants.

  585. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – What are your thoughts on this flight:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4860404/Delta-flight-flies-right-storm-San-Juan.html#comments

    I guess some passengers want to get into a disaster area before the disaster hits.

  586. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    599. “I follow the three main polling average: RCP, Huffpollster, and 538.”

    Really, Robbie? You follow the Huffpollster. I know Huffington News is probably your favorite new source, but you do remember that the Huffpollster predicted that Clinton had a 98% chance of winning, and Trump 1.7%. It also predicted Clinton would win 323 electoral votes and Trump only 215. No wonder your prediction are always so wrong.

    Should also point out that the Rasmussen poll was one of the most accurate in November 2016.

    Also in the past, you have quoted Rasmussen poll numbers when Trump had low ratings. Believe you actually once predicted that Trump would need to hit around 45% in Rasmussen to have a change of being re-elected. This was when his total approval rating in Rasmussen was in below 40%.

  587. Robbie says:

    Impossible. Lou Dobbs, one of the great conservative thinkers of our time, called Ryan a RINO on his crapfest Fox Business show last night.

    Jay Caruso?
    @JayCaruso

    Remember Ryan’s first budget as Speaker? He secured oil exports, tax breaks, delay of O-care taxes, etc. and people said he TOTALLY CAVED.

  588. NYCmike says:

    It is funny to see the leaps being taken by certain people here.

    Trump has acted like he has always acted, sometimes working with Republicans, sometimes with Democrats. I think jason and I agreed it was 46%/54% one year, or over many years. Unfortunately, it looks like Trump, after many months of doing mainly conservative things, has once again found some allies on the other side of the political spectrum.

    The test for all of us will be when someone like Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul stands up and threatens to shutdown the government when Trump works too closely with Schumer/Pelosi.

    I hope that the lot of you (Jason, Robbie, “CG”, Bitterlaw) decide to work with the likes of us “deadenders” at that point.

  589. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 2:52 pm
    599. “I follow the three main polling average: RCP, Huffpollster, and 538.”
    Really, Robbie? You follow the Huffpollster. I know Huffington News is probably your favorite new source, but you do remember that the Huffpollster predicted that Clinton had a 98% chance of winning, and Trump 1.7%. It also predicted Clinton would win 323 electoral votes and Trump only 215. No wonder your prediction are always so wrong.
    Should also point out that the Rasmussen poll was one of the most accurate in November 2016.
    Also in the past, you have quoted Rasmussen poll numbers when Trump had low ratings. Believe you actually once predicted that Trump would need to hit around 45% in Rasmussen to have a change of being re-elected. This was when his total approval rating in Rasmussen was in below 40%.

    – LOL! There’s so much wrong here, but I’ve got time to correct your mistakes.

    First, Huffpollster is a polling average. Unless you think they’re using unfair, anti-Trump math (they’re not), I’m not sure what you beef is with an average other than it doesn’t show Donnie as high in approval as you’d like.

    Second, I never said Trump needed to be around 45% in Rasmussen to have a chance to be re-elected. I said Trump’s approval rating in the RCP average (also Huffpollster and 538) needed to be around 45% in order for Republicans to hope to have a decent election in 2018.

    I think Rasmussen, along with all of the other robo-pollster, is garbage. I would never set a mark for any candidate based on a cheese ball Rasmussen poll.

  590. Waingro says:

    #607, Dobbs has become a total loon. Anything Trump does is gospel now. He actually called for Gorsuch to withdraw his name from nomination just because he said he was “disappointed” about Trump’s comments about certain judges.

  591. NYCmike says:

    I would also point out, AGAIN, that McConnell and Ryan, along with the Republican caucus, can stand up against Trump if he looks to make deals with Schumer/Pelosi.

    Someone let me know if that is incorrect…….I’ll probably look to make you a nice offer on this bridge I am selling.

  592. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    560 “Sdc, i do not get the criticism of trump,re the hurricane relief and debt ceiling. It is pretty clear ryan and mitchiemhad no plan.”

    Tina, I agree with you. Trump’s main priority was to get disaster relief to the areas hit by the hurricane. He was willing to support a temporary three month extension of the debt ceiling to get this done.

    It was Ryan and McConnell who were playing politics. As usual, it would have been disastrous politics, as the Republicans would have gotten the blame for delaying disaster relief.

  593. Bitterlaw says:

    It is funny to see the leaps being taken by certain people here.

    And the winner of this year’s Pot Calling the Kettle Black Award goes to ……NYCmike!

  594. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    The test for all of us will be when someone like Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul stands up and threatens to shutdown the government when Trump works too closely with Schumer/Pelosi.

    – This is your test? Whether Trump is willing to go along with a government shutdown? Ha! A government shutdown is not a conservative policy. It’s a petty temper tantrum thrown by someone hoping to launch a national career (see Cruz in 2013).

    I hope that the lot of you (Jason, Robbie, “CG”, Bitterlaw) decide to work with the likes of us “deadenders” at that point.

    – Hard pass. I want nothing to do with Trump.

  595. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm
    #607, Dobbs has become a total loon. Anything Trump does is gospel now. He actually called for Gorsuch to withdraw his name from nomination just because he said he was “disappointed” about Trump’s comments about certain judges.

    – I know. I was watching the night he called on Gorsuch to quit. It’s a cult.

  596. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – I need a pilot’s opinion on flying into and out of Puerto Rice just before a hurricane hits. I suspect that it might not be the standard plan.

  597. NYCmike says:

    Let’s see:

    Trump pushes Cotton/Perdue. Congressional Republicans laugh at him.

    Trump/Sessions look to end DACA. Congressional Republicans run as fast as they can to tell the media that they will work tirelessly, WITH DEMOCRATS, to find a home for these DREAMERS.

    Trump says he will work with Schumer/Pelosi to fix DACA.

    Republicans on HHR blame Trump for wanting to work with Democrats.

  598. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:03 pm
    I would also point out, AGAIN, that McConnell and Ryan, along with the Republican caucus, can stand up against Trump if he looks to make deals with Schumer/Pelosi.
    Someone let me know if that is incorrect…….I’ll probably look to make you a nice offer on this bridge I am selling.

    – Sadly, they’re too afraid of the Magaheads in the media who will turn their cult fanbases on them if they speak against Trump. Ingraham, Levin, Hannity, and the rest would love a head on the wall.

    El Rushbo, who claimed the hurricane Irama coverage was designed to help sales at hardware stores, was sticking with Trump today. He was mad at Ryan and McConnell, not Trump for teaming up with the liberals.

  599. NYCmike says:

    “– This is your test? Whether Trump is willing to go along with a government shutdown?”

    -Not Trump, you idiot.

    It would be Cruz, or Lee, or Paul (maybe even Rubio), again, standing up to any policy choices being pushed by Trump/Schumer/Pelosi, IF the Republican leadership actually caves in and puts their (Trump/Schumer/Pelosi) policy choices to a vote sometime in the future.

  600. NYCmike says:

    Would you back up Cruz if he tries to filibuster some stupid agreement Trump makes with Schumer?

    Or will you do the usual and cave in, lamenting that it would be a PR disaster, or some such nonsense?

  601. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:03 pm
    560 “Sdc, i do not get the criticism of trump,re the hurricane relief and debt ceiling. It is pretty clear ryan and mitchiemhad no plan.”
    Tina, I agree with you. Trump’s main priority was to get disaster relief to the areas hit by the hurricane. He was willing to support a temporary three month extension of the debt ceiling to get this done.
    It was Ryan and McConnell who were playing politics. As usual, it would have been disastrous politics, as the Republicans would have gotten the blame for delaying disaster relief.

    – Nothing funnier than watching “conservatives” throw life long Republicans leaders overboard in favor of a life long Democrat.

    Multiple media reports yesterday and this morning said Trump had agreed the night before to back the McConnell/Ryan 18 month plan and the White House had even prepared talking points. then Trump walked into the meeting and sided with Schumer/Pelosi. Further, White House aides later called Republican leaders to apologize for Trump’s change of mind.

  602. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    611. The Republican leadership is churlish and ineffective. Often the Republican factions in Congress refuses to support legislation if they do not totally get their way — its hard for Trump to govern given it is almost impossible at times to herd the cats.

    Believe Trump made the right choice in reaching out to the Democrats. He has also brought in the right people into the Oval Office, such as Kelly, to finally get things done. Even his twitter is now focused in a positive direction.

  603. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:06 pm
    Robbie – I need a pilot’s opinion on flying into and out of Puerto Rice just before a hurricane hits. I suspect that it might not be the standard plan.

    – Are you thinking of traveling there? Most reports I saw suggested San Juan was spared. There were a lot of power outages, but nothing substantial.

    If you’re planning to go there, my guess is you’d experience little problem getting into the area. If the new hurricane turns towards San Juan, you run the risk of getting stuck there if flights get cancelled.

  604. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    For months I have been pleading with you, just send Trump the same bills as we sent Obama. He wants to sign something into law.

    Your response, all through those months: Trump tweeted!!!

  605. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:10 pm
    Would you back up Cruz if he tries to filibuster some stupid agreement Trump makes with Schumer?
    Or will you do the usual and cave in, lamenting that it would be a PR disaster, or some such nonsense?

    – At this point, no. Why? Because then Republicans would get pegged as filibustering Harvey relief. That was the noose Republicans were about to put Democrats in until Donnie sandbagged them.

  606. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    611. The Republican leadership is churlish and ineffective. Often the Republican factions in Congress refuses to support legislation if they do not totally get their way — its hard for Trump to govern given it is almost impossible at times to herd the cats.
    Believe Trump made the right choice in reaching out to the Democrats. He has also brought in the right people into the Oval Office, such as Kelly, to finally get things done. Even his twitter is now focused in a positive direction.

    – So the answer is to go with a lifelong Democrat like Trump got it.

    Trump had agreed to the Ryan/McConnell 18 month plan. It was going to force Democrats to filibuster Harvey relief and they never would have done so. Instead, Donnie put Republicans in a bind and gave Democrats a huge win.

    Instead of pushing the debt ceiling off until after 2018, not Republican will get rolled on it before Christmas of this year. What a plan…for the Democrats!

  607. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – I was referring to the story in 604. I’m not flying anywhere right now.

  608. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:16 pm
    Robbie,
    For months I have been pleading with you, just send Trump the same bills as we sent Obama. He wants to sign something into law.
    Your response, all through those months: Trump tweeted!!!

    – And therein lies the problem. Rather than say he wanted one of those bills (he never did), he tweeted about Mika’s facelift and lied about Obama wiretapping him.

    He doesn’t care about policy. He cares about protecting the image of himself and his family. You made a bad bet on Trump and you lost. Sorry.

  609. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    Robbie – I was referring to the story in 604. I’m not flying anywhere right now.

    – I saw that flight yesterday. The METAR at the time of their approach to land really wasn’t that bad. Winds in the 20’s with gusts into the high 30’s. That’s Springtime flying in the Midwest and Plains here.

    I’m not saying I would have wanted to be on that flight though. Had there been an issue that delayed the turnaround, then oof! I bet the original pilots called in sick and a couple of guys low the seniority list who were on reserve got the pleasure of that flight.

  610. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    621. “– Nothing funnier than watching “conservatives” throw life long Republicans leaders overboard in favor of a life long Democrat.”

    I am a registered independent, and often vote for Democrats for local offices. Have been referred to as a “moderate” probably as much “conservative.”

    Believe Reagan was a life long Democrat too, as were many of the people who voted for Trump. They supported and elected Trump, not the mainstream Republican leadership. Believe Ryan refused to actively support Trump.

    Those who you are referring to as “Republican leaders” are not effective leaders, and should not be at the helm.

  611. NYCmike says:

    ” Because then Republicans would get pegged as filibustering Harvey relief.”

    -NO, you idiot.

    In the future, IF Trump keeps finding common cause with Schumer/Pelosi, and principled Republicans like Cruz stand up, will you back him up?

    Or will you then go to blaming “deadenders” again?

  612. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:29 pm
    ” Because then Republicans would get pegged as filibustering Harvey relief.”
    -NO, you idiot.
    In the future, IF Trump keeps finding common cause with Schumer/Pelosi, and principled Republicans like Cruz stand up, will you back him up?
    Or will you then go to blaming “deadenders” again?

    – Principled Republicans like Cruz? Ha! If I thought Ted was a team player, maybe. He’s not a team player. I care about the regular Republican Party, not the Tea Party wing.

  613. NYCmike says:

    “He doesn’t care about policy. He cares about protecting the image of himself and his family. You made a bad bet on Trump and you lost. Sorry.”

    -(Lightbulb went off in Robbie’s head!)

    Exactly, he does NOT care about policy, which is why he does NOT tell McConnell/Ryan which bill he wants. Which is why they should send the MOST CONSERVATIVE bills they can, and either DEmocrats will get in the way, or Trump will sign.

    I made a bet on Trump vs Hillary, with the thinking that a Republican Congress would act LIKE REPUBLICANS.

    So far, I won the Trump vs Hillary bet, THANK GOD, but I am watching the 2nd bet blow up spectacularly, mainly because of timidity and spite from “life-long Republicans”.

  614. NYCmike says:

    ” I care about the regular Republican Party”

    -And what legislation did this Party pass this year, for Trump to sign into law?

    Or will you just keep on blaming others for their failures?

  615. NYCmike says:

    ” If I thought Ted was a team player, maybe.”

    -McCain? Murkowski? Collins?

    Those team players?

  616. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Hard pass. I want nothing to do with Trump.”

    Robbie, you say this, but your obsessed with him. And you have at least three, and maybe seven, more years of him. Its going to be tough for you.

    By the way, what was the “silent coup” you were referring to?

  617. jason says:

    Here is what NYC’s mayor and the Dems are really about. But the problem is those RINOS in Congress.

    “Our legal system is structured to favor private property,” he said, insisting that “people would like to have the city government be able to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be.”

    For good measure, he added: “If I had my druthers, the city government would determine every single plot of land, how development would proceed. And there would be very stringent requirements around income levels and rents. That’s a world I’d love to see.”

  618. jason says:

    Ted Cruz would not know a principle if it slammed him in the face.

  619. NYCmike says:

    And I still have not seen any policy reason from Robbie why Cotton/Perdue should NOT be pushed by a Republican Congress. The only reply he gives is that it won’t be supported by “Republicans”.

    Answer the question:

    WHY WON’T IT BE SUPPORTED?

  620. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    I posted that yesterday. I stated “The mask is slipping.”

    Of course, we need Republicans willing to jump on remarks like that and show how wrong, and how dangerous, those ideas are.

    WHERE ARE THOSE LEADERS?

  621. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    Robbie, you say this, but your obsessed with him. And you have at least three, and maybe seven, more years of him. Its going to be tough for you.

    – Yes, I am obsessed and extremely frustrated that he is destroying the Republican Party. Republicans, had they elected someone who was competent and capable, could have achieved great success this year and done to the Democrats in 2018 what FDR did to republicans in 1934. Instead, nothing but tweets and a special council investigation.

    If Republicans take a bath next year in the elections, a lot more people will publically feel about Trump the way I do.

  622. NYCmike says:

    “Ted Cruz would not know a principle if it slammed him in the face.”

    -If Trump finds more common cause with Schumer/Pelosi instead of McConnell/Ryan, you better hope McConnell/Ryan act more like Cruz and less like themselves.

  623. NYCmike says:

    “– Yes, I am obsessed and extremely frustrated that he is destroying the Republican Party.”

    -LOL!

    The Republican leadership has sent NOTHING to the White House for the President to sign, BUT it is the President who is destroying the party!!

  624. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    626. “Instead, Donnie put Republicans in a bind and gave Democrats a huge win.”

    What huge win? All that happened was a three month delay, then the issue will be addressed. Maybe the focus should not be on politics but on finding a solution to the budget impasse?

    However, the overriding priority was getting relief aid to the hurricane victims. Under the circumstances the idea of “It was going to force Democrats to filibuster Harvey relief and they never would have done so” is unacceptable. Trump provided a way for disaster aid to sent with bipartisan support.

  625. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:36 pm
    ” If I thought Ted was a team player, maybe.”
    -McCain? Murkowski? Collins?

    – You want those people to vote your way? Then tell Donnie to stop attacking them in public and in private. Trump doesn’t operate in a vacuum. His bizarre actions have consequences.

  626. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:38 pm
    And I still have not seen any policy reason from Robbie why Cotton/Perdue should NOT be pushed by a Republican Congress. The only reply he gives is that it won’t be supported by “Republicans”.
    Answer the question:
    WHY WON’T IT BE SUPPORTED?

    – For starters and I said this last month, I don’t believe we should cut legal immigration by 50% as their bill does.

  627. NYCmike says:

    ” Republicans, had they elected someone who was competent and capable,”

    -It seems the primary voters disagreed with your opinion about whom is competent and capable, as well as general election voters.

    The President, and the rest of his Executive Branch, have carried out a lot of their duties very well.

    The Legislative Branch…….tell us about how affected they are by…..wait for it……TWEETS!!

  628. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:43 pm
    “– Yes, I am obsessed and extremely frustrated that he is destroying the Republican Party.”
    -LOL!
    The Republican leadership has sent NOTHING to the White House for the President to sign, BUT it is the President who is destroying the party!!

    – LOL. Trump has made no firm proposal on anything. He’s part of the process too you know.

    Must protect the Trump, though.

  629. Bitterlaw says:

    One of my friends was just diagnosed with breast cancer. I just don’t have the same interest in the Trump is great vs Trump sucks debate.

  630. Trump says:

    The fu cking as hole Robbie is triggered.

    Trump is right on track.

  631. NYCmike says:

    “– You want those people to vote your way? Then tell Donnie to stop attacking them in public and in private. Trump doesn’t operate in a vacuum. His bizarre actions have consequences.”

    -So, their actions are governed more by their emotions (spite) instead of their brains (principles).

    JUST LIKE I SAID.

    And Trump is the one unfit in your mind?!?

  632. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Who said “Trump is great”?

  633. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:43 pm
    626. “Instead, Donnie put Republicans in a bind and gave Democrats a huge win.”
    What huge win? All that happened was a three month delay, then the issue will be addressed. Maybe the focus should not be on politics but on finding a solution to the budget impasse?
    However, the overriding priority was getting relief aid to the hurricane victims. Under the circumstances the idea of “It was going to force Democrats to filibuster Harvey relief and they never would have done so” is unacceptable. Trump provided a way for disaster aid to sent with bipartisan support.

    – This is so wrong. Why go for a three month delay when you can get 18 months? And now that Trump has already said he wants to do DACA, it will almost certainly be part of the December bill which will force Republicans to cave on that issue right before an election year.

    Brilliant, if you’re a Democrat.

  634. Trump says:

    My question again.

    Why would trump talk with GOP congress? They can’t deliver.

  635. jason says:

    Did you take up for Obama simply because he won? ”

    Wow, this idiocy is all you have?

    I opposed Obama because he was contrary to all my core beliefs. I supported him when he didn’t run away from Afghanistan and in other rare moments when I thought he was right.

    Now I support Trump where I can not because he has an R in front of his name, he is not even a Republican. There is a lot I can support him on. Judicial picks. Deregulation. Border security. Taxes. Rebuilding the military. Energy independence. Where I disagree with him, and there are many issues, I have no qualms about doing so.

    You should too, if you weren’t so stupid and such a patsy for fake news. You are still stuck in the primaries, still pining for Jeb Bush. You are still talking about tweets and other meaningless crap.

    You are just a useful idiot for the Democrats. Don’t pretend you are against them when all you do is quote their talking points.

  636. NYCmike says:

    Trump is Trump.

    He has not changed at all.

    If you are surprised by any of his actions, you have not been paying attention, at all!

  637. Trump says:

    Ha ha ha

    So republicans are afraid of votes right before an election.

  638. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:45 pm
    ” Republicans, had they elected someone who was competent and capable,”
    -The President, and the rest of his Executive Branch, have carried out a lot of their duties very well.

    – You ought to be in a nuthouse for this statement.

    Bannon did such a great job, he got canned. Preibus did such a great job, he got canned. The Mooch did such a great job, he got canned after 10 days. Yet the executive branch is running well? What a joke.

    Mr. Conservative Principle NYCMike defends the lifelong Democrat and attacks the life long conservative Republicans. What a moronic time to be alive.

  639. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:47 pm
    “– You want those people to vote your way? Then tell Donnie to stop attacking them in public and in private. Trump doesn’t operate in a vacuum. His bizarre actions have consequences.”
    -So, their actions are governed more by their emotions (spite) instead of their brains (principles).
    JUST LIKE I SAID.
    And Trump is the one unfit in your mind?!?

    – It’s never the fault of the lifelong Democrat in NYCMike’s world. It’s always the conservative Republicans who are to blame.

    Donnie is selling you out everyday and you continue to defend him like you have battered spouse syndrome.

  640. NYCmike says:

    ” And now that Trump has already said he wants to do DACA,”

    -HELLO, how many Republican Congress-critters ran to the microphones saying the same thing??

    PUSH COTTON/PERDUE, and then we can compromise with DACA, the “children” who are already here.

    Or else, NO DEAL!

    SHUT IT DOWN!

  641. Trump says:

    As hole cretin, Mitchell and Ryan’s sold you out years ago.

    That is how we got trump.

    Thankfully.

  642. NYCmike says:

    “Donnie is selling you out everyday and you continue to defend him like you have battered spouse syndrome.”

    -Wow, in your world, the President is in charge of Congress!

    Loony bin!

  643. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:49 pm
    Trump is Trump.
    He has not changed at all.
    If you are surprised by any of his actions, you have not been paying attention, at all!

    – Nope, he hasn’t changed and you still haven’t gotten anything you wanted legislatively precisely because Donnie has refused to change.

  644. Wes says:

    666–the Number of the Beast

  645. Robbie says:

    The Cotton immigration bill wouldn’t get 20 votes on the floor of the Senate.

  646. jason says:

    Huffpost is a purveyor emeritus of fake news, a radical left wing source, not surprising Wobbie would follow them. The loved the Wang pollster who gave Trump less than 1% chance of winning, even 538 called them out on it. HuffPost is like DKos, you can’t get further left.

    538 is run by committed leftists who try to use polls to help Democrats. More objective, marginally, they actually infuriated the moonbats by giving Trump a 25% chance of winning. Still, anyone who call himself a conservative that trusts Nate Silverhack should go ahead and get lobotomized, there is no hope.

    RCP is ok as average, the problem is the polls they “average” are mostly MSM polls to start with. When you have garbage in, you get garbage out, it’s not their fault. I think they try to be fair with what they have to work with.

  647. NYCmike says:

    If Cruz/Meadows was in charge instead of McConnell/Ryan, what type of legislation would Trump have had to sign into law:

    1) More conservative?
    2) Less conservative?
    3) Same as McConnell/Ryan?
    4) Nothing, aka option 3.

  648. NYCmike says:

    “The Cotton immigration bill wouldn’t get 20 votes on the floor of the Senate.”

    -You have said this repeatedly.

    WHY is this the case?

  649. jason says:

    The Cotton immigration bill wouldn’t get 20 votes on the floor of the Senate.”

    SEND A MESSAGE!

  650. NYCmike says:

    “because Donnie has refused to change.”

    -Yes, I realized once again that you believe the President is in charge of Congress.

    Loony bin!

  651. NYCmike says:

    jason and Robbie,

    WHY won’t it get votes from Republicans?

  652. jason says:

    Cruz/Meadows was in charge instead of McConnell/Ryan, what type of legislation would Trump have had to sign into law”

    Uhhhhh, I love softballs over the plate.

    HE WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO SIGN, because nothing they would propose would get to Trump’s desk.

    They would send hundreds of messages though.

  653. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:56 pm
    “Donnie is selling you out everyday and you continue to defend him like you have battered spouse syndrome.”
    -Wow, in your world, the President is in charge of Congress!

    – It’s never lifelong Democrat Trump’s fault in NYCMike’s world. He seems to think the president plays no role in shaping legislation. Apparently, Trump’s position is just ceremonial and all he’s supposed to do is sign bills.

    You do realize presidents have long submitted their own legislation to the Congress. Trump hasn’t done so. He’s made no effort to further legislation. He just tweets like high school girl who has been dumped for the first time.

  654. NYCmike says:

    The voters in PA, MI, and WI would probably agree with most of Cotton/Perdue.

    Which parts will be problematic for Republican voters?

  655. NYCmike says:

    “You do realize presidents have long submitted their own legislation to the Congress. Trump hasn’t done so. He’s made no effort to further legislation.”

    -You keep making my point for me!

    CONGRESS had a clean slate – just send Trump what was sent to Obama, by the same people who sent it the first time!

    How difficult would that have been!?!?

  656. jason says:

    McConnell/Ryan might have trouble getting 50 votes to pass something, because of Ted Cruz.

    Ted Cruz would be lucky to get 20 votes, because of Ted Cruz.

  657. NYCmike says:

    “HE WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO SIGN, because nothing they would propose would get to Trump’s desk.”

    -So, no different than McConnell/Ryan, is what you are saying?

  658. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm
    If Cruz/Meadows was in charge instead of McConnell/Ryan, what type of legislation would Trump have had to sign into law:
    1) More conservative?
    2) Less conservative?
    3) Same as McConnell/Ryan?
    4) Nothing, aka option 3.

    – Mark Meadows couldn’t get 218 votes on the floor of the House to become Speaker.

    Other than Mike Lee, everyone in the Senate hates Ted Cruz.

    Neither will ever be a leader and both would disasters because neither is willing to work with people who are less pure than they are.

  659. NYCmike says:

    So, jason agrees with me, that Cruz/Meadows would be, at the least, as competent as McConnell/Ryan.

    That is a good start.

  660. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:01 pm
    jason and Robbie,
    WHY won’t it get votes from Republicans?

    – Because Republicans aren’t interested in cutting legal immigration by 50%.

  661. jason says:

    Let’s be clear about this.

    Cotton/Perdue was designed to become law, that is why it wouldn’t get 20 votes.

    It was designed to grandstand.

    NYC can never tell the difference.

  662. NYCmike says:

    Still waiting on the reasons for “REPUBLICANS” to NOT SUPPORT Cotton/Perdue………

  663. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:02 pm
    The voters in PA, MI, and WI would probably agree with most of Cotton/Perdue.
    Which parts will be problematic for Republican voters?

    – And the voters in Vermont and Hawaii would support single payer. So what. We don’t do legislation by what a few states want.

  664. jason says:

    So, jason agrees with me, that Cruz/Meadows would be, at the least, as competent as McConnell/Ryan.

    That is a good start.”

    No, I don’t agree with that.

    There is a difference between having trouble reaching 50 votes and having 0 chance of reaching 50 votes.

  665. NYCmike says:

    “– Because Republicans aren’t interested in cutting legal immigration by 50%.”

    -Therein lies a place for compromise with the Dems…..I’ll take some of the other points and agree to up the numbers of legal immigrants……Negotiating 101.

  666. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:05 pm
    So, jason agrees with me, that Cruz/Meadows would be, at the least, as competent as McConnell/Ryan.
    That is a good start.

    – By in large, the members like McConnell and Ryan. By in large the member don’t like Meadows and they hate Cruz.

  667. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:06 pm
    Still waiting on the reasons for “REPUBLICANS” to NOT SUPPORT Cotton/Perdue………

    – Hello! I just addressed that in 682. They don’t want to cut legal immigration by 50%.

  668. jason says:

    I am no longer a Republican.

    But if I was, I wouldn’t support Perdue/Cotton either.

    It’s not serious legislation, it has zero chance of passing.

    When you propose something YOU KNOW will never pass, it’s NYC’s favorite tactic, sending messages.

  669. NYCmike says:

    “We don’t do legislation by what a few states want.”

    -Those 3 states put us over 270, which is the goal.

    We don’t care what CA wants, or what NY wants, or MA, or DE, or IL….

  670. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:08 pm
    “– Because Republicans aren’t interested in cutting legal immigration by 50%.”
    -Therein lies a place for compromise with the Dems…..I’ll take some of the other points and agree to up the numbers of legal immigrants……Negotiating 101.

    – There is no negotiating. No one but the hard right wants to cut legal immigration.

  671. jason says:

    Fortunately, nobody is ever going to elect TEd Cruz majority leader.

  672. NYCmike says:

    Again, what do you disagree with on Cotton/Perdue?

    Robbie said the number of illegals….OK, I am willing to work on that with you….what else?

  673. NYCmike says:

    “No one but the hard right wants to cut legal immigration.”

    -And you know this how?

    Voters in enough states that gave Trump over 300 Electoral Votes may think differently.

  674. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    668. “Huffpost is a purveyor emeritus of fake news, a radical left wing source, not surprising Wobbie would follow them. The loved the Wang pollster who gave Trump less than 1% chance of winning, even 538 called them out on it. HuffPost is like DKos, you can’t get further left.

    538 is run by committed leftists who try to use polls to help Democrats. More objective, marginally, they actually infuriated the moonbats by giving Trump a 25% chance of winning. Still, anyone who call himself a conservative that trusts Nate Silverhack should go ahead and get lobotomized, there is no hope.

    RCP is ok as average, the problem is the polls they “average” are mostly MSM polls to start with. When you have garbage in, you get garbage out, it’s not their fault. I think they try to be fair with what they have to work with.”

    Well said, and totally agree.

  675. Robbie says:

    NYCMike says the executive branch is running like a well oiled machine.

    Anna Massoglia?
    @annalecta 56m
    56 minutes ago

    Insane local news scoop: Wife of Trump ethics lawyer arrested having sex in a car with 23-year-old inmate

    http://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html …

  676. NYCmike says:

    Unfortunately, they chose McConnell to do what Ted Cruz could have done himself, with nobody’s help…..NOTHING.

  677. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:11 pm
    Again, what do you disagree with on Cotton/Perdue?
    Robbie said the number of illegals….OK, I am willing to work on that with you….what else?

    – NO. The number of legal immigration.

  678. NYCmike says:

    🙂

    “Wife of Trump ethics lawyer”

  679. NYCmike says:

    Writing too fast – sorry about that:

    “Robbie said the number of legals….OK, I am willing to work on that with you….what else?

  680. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:13 pm
    Unfortunately, they chose McConnell to do what Ted Cruz could have done himself, with nobody’s help…..NOTHING.

    – You really don’t understand the purpose of leader if you think Cruz would be a good choice.

  681. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    696. It is interesting that Robbie swears he is a Republican, yet relies on polls from far leftist Democratic sites.

  682. NYCmike says:

    In regards to Cotton/Perdue:

    Republicans are ok with new immigrants getting a huge amount of public services for NOTHING?

  683. NYCmike says:

    Purpose of a leader…….McConnell has done NOTHING, other than Gorsuch.

    Do you think Cruz could have held the line on Obama’s pick, and helped Trump get Gorsuch?

    Yes or NO?

  684. Robbie says:

    Ha!

    NYT Politics?
    @nytpolitics 1h
    1 hour ago

    President Trump called Democratic Party leaders on Thursday in hopes of striking more deals http://nyti.ms/2wNkd2c

  685. NYCmike says:

    Let’s do an exercise in leadership:

    Trump is calling Democrats to make deals.

    What will McConnell do?

    What would Cruz do?

  686. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:15 pm
    696. It is interesting that Robbie swears he is a Republican, yet relies on polls from far leftist Democratic sites.

    – This is really stupid, even for HHR. Math is math. Unless liberal have figured out how to make 2+2 equal something other than 4, this is as ridiculous as all of the poll truthing that took place in 2012.

    Your problem isn’t the math. Your problem is Trump’s approval rating isn’t as high as you wish it would be.

  687. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:20 pm
    Let’s do an exercise in leadership:
    Trump is calling Democrats to make deals.
    What will McConnell do?
    What would Cruz do?

    – Like I wrote earlier, they’ll do nothing because they’re afraid of Trump’s tweets and attacks. The base is still with Trump and Cruz won’t want to piss of Trump with his re-election looming.

  688. NYCmike says:

    My opinion:

    McConnell will work with them.

    Cruz would laugh, say he’ll work with them, and then pass the most conservative piece of legislation avilable, and make the Democrats stop him.

    In the meantime, Cruz could call Trump, tell him we have the numbers in the House, BUT we need some help in the Senate, and ask him for help.

    Of Course, THIS ONLY HAPPENS IF THE REPUBLICANS ARE UNITED, BY THEIR LEADER.

  689. NYCmike says:

    Let me repeat that: THIS ONLY HAPPENS IF THE REPUBLICANS ARE UNITED, BY THEIR LEADER.

    Robbie, jason,

    Tell us again how good a leader McConnell is……

  690. CG says:

    Why is Cotton/Perdue wrong?

    Somewhere, in some country, there is a person who very much wants to be an American. They also happen have the same IQ as NYCMike.

    Regardless, I believe they should have the right, as generations of immigrants have before them, to come to our country legally, to work hard, and provide a better life for their children and for future generations, who will undoubtedly turn out even more successful and will be grateful for America and how it let their father or grandfather in.

  691. NYCmike says:

    Ok, so between Robbie and jason (and Bitterlaw had the same reason last month), the only thing wrong with Cotton/Perdue is the number of legals admitted in each year………..

  692. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    How many of these unskilled “have the right”?

    Name your number……..let the veil down…..

  693. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 4:23 pm
    Let me repeat that: THIS ONLY HAPPENS IF THE REPUBLICANS ARE UNITED, BY THEIR LEADER.

    – Ha! And just how would Ted Cruz unite anyone?

  694. CG says:

    Let them follow the process, as everyone else should. There is plenty of room for Americans who actually want to work hard. Your hero Rand Paul said as much.

    Many of them might even have family businesses to join, where they would work hard on a daily basis and not just sit in some office and type on a blog.

  695. NYCmike says:

    Bring the bill up for debate….it would be an interesting discussion…..why bury it?

    What is McConnell scared of?

    What is “CG” scared of?

    Are they trying to SEND A MESSAGE by NOT ALLOWING it to come to a vote?

  696. NYCmike says:

    “Let them follow the process, as everyone else should.”

    -The one we have now?

    ENFORCE EXISTING LAW?

    Another convert……

  697. Trump says:

    Nobody has the right to immigrate to US.

    What delusion gives you that impression, idiot?

  698. NYCmike says:

    “– Ha! And just how would Ted Cruz unite anyone?”

    -Again, you prove my point.

    Cruz would do just as well, at the least, as McConnell has done this year.

  699. NYCmike says:

    “How many of these unskilled “have the right”?”

    -“CG”,

    any answer?

    What is your, oh-so-compassionate, answer?

  700. CG says:

    For years and years, these Trumpist types would say, “We love immigration. We want to make it easier to come to America legally, but illegal immigration is the problem. That’s all. We need to get rid of the illegal immigrants so we can bring in more of the legal immigrants.”

    But it turns out that was all b.s. Even as illegal immigration has been decreasing (from before Trump taking office), they now suddenly are saying that we need to reduce or stop legal immigration too.

    Gee, how convenient..

  701. CG says:

    “If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.” – Rand Paul

  702. Wes says:

    All right, let me get this straight:

    Mikey was a big fan of Christine O’Donnell, Ken Buck, Todd Akin, Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock, and Aaron Day. Now he whines because a GOP Senate is having a hard time passing conservative legislation.

    I see a logical disconnect somewhere in there.

    Oh, Mikey now also supports Chemtrail Kelly–who recently infamously said she hopes John McCain dies so Doug Ducey will appoint her to Senate.

    That says it all, doesn’t it?

  703. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    I am not saying that we NEED to reduce legal immigration.

    I see it as a way to get Democrats to negotiate in good faith, where they might get something, but REPUBLICANS would also get a better system than we have now.

    IF you start by saying today’s system is fine, you will get NOTHING in return from Democrats.

  704. NYCmike says:

    “Now he whines because a GOP Senate is having a hard time passing conservative legislation.”

    -I am not whining that they can’t pass conservative legislation.

    I AM WHINING that they WON’T PASS CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION!

    ALL of the bills that Obama vetoed, PASS THOSE SAME BILLS!

  705. Wes says:

    I have no problem with legal immigration though I think the US needs to target it toward skilled labor rather than the unskilled variety.

  706. CG says:

    And that completely flies in the face of your liking the deal that Trump cut with Schumer and Pelosi and the future deals he wants to make with them.

    You are ok with anything Donald Trump does, because he is Donald Trump.

    I said during the campaign that he would probably pick a good conservative to succeed Scalia, but then, if he had a second pick, he will be off to cut a deal.

    He will literally let Chuck Schumer pick the next Supreme Court Justice for a deal on funding the wall (that Mexico was supposed to pay for) and you will be totally fine with it, because he’s Donald Trump.

  707. NYCmike says:

    “Oh, Mikey now also supports Chemtrail Kelly–who recently infamously said she hopes John McCain dies so Doug Ducey will appoint her to Senate.”

    -I said I support her? When was that?

    I DO support her right to primary an incumbent. IF she wins, I will support her in the general election.

    WILL YOU?

  708. Wes says:

    Methinks Mikey is on the verge of a widowmaker.

  709. NYCmike says:

    “And that completely flies in the face of your liking the deal that Trump cut with Schumer and Pelosi and the future deals he wants to make with them.”

    -I liked the deal yesterday?

    When did I say that?

  710. NYCmike says:

    “He will literally let Chuck Schumer pick the next Supreme Court Justice for a deal on funding the wall (that Mexico was supposed to pay for) and you will be totally fine with it, because he’s Donald Trump.”

    -HELLO, do Republicans NOT have 50+ votes?

    NAY…NAY….NAY…..see how easy it is!

  711. Wes says:

    No, Mikey. She’s a ghoulish Deadender and self-seeker. I will support DeWit if he, as I hope, defeats Flake in the primary. Chemtrail Kelly is a few light years too far.

  712. Jonesy says:

    Funny how Hillary backer, CG/Corey, now pretends to be a conservative.

  713. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    My heart hasn’t missed a beat.

    Trump is Trump, not one surprise.

    I am surprised that the same bills passed by Congres and vetoed by Obama can’t be passed again and sent to Trump.

    Somehow, because of Trump’s tweets, that legislation is not available……

  714. Waingro says:

    “He will literally let Chuck Schumer pick the next Supreme Court Justice for a deal on funding the wall (that Mexico was supposed to pay for) and you will be totally fine with it, because he’s Donald Trump.”

    So far, as further evidenced by some new nominees to DC Circuit today (as linked by others above), Trump has been very solid on judges. So, for now, I will give him the benefit of doubt.

    But you raise a legitimate concern. The good thing is the Republicans are more than likely to make GAINS in the Senate after the 2018 midterms, so Chucky Schmucky won’t have as much leverage over Trump as you might think — should an opening occur at that time.

  715. Jonesy says:

    I agree Wes. Ward would lose the GE. McCain would make sure of it. DeWitt has won statewide.

    Moore is in the right state, or he would face the same

  716. NYCmike says:

    I am fine with whomever comes out of the primary…..I have no horse in that race.

    So please make sure you repeat this to yourself, so you stop making crap up.

  717. Wes says:

    If Ward had followed the path Matt Bevin once trod and repented of Deadenderism, she would be in a solid position to win, Jonesy. Instead, she’s doubled down on the stupid and downright cringeworthy. DeWit is the man for the job. Sadly Jeff Flake is not.

  718. Jonesy says:

    Wain, Trump is playing the Art of War with Pelosi and Chucky.

    Trump knows the far left will hate them for making a deal with him on anything. They become neutered with their own manic base

  719. NYCmike says:

    Waingro,

    Can Republicans vote NAY if Trump was to push a Schumer pick, (which is very possible)?

    Which Senators would vote Yes?

    Would it be Cruz, Paul, Lee who vote Yay?

  720. Wes says:

    Mikey can’t even criticize Chemtrail Kelly for openly hoping McCain dies. That’s truly appslling.

  721. CG says:

    And if Republicans opposed the liberal pick that Trump would make to the Supreme Court, you would attack them for that, because he is Donald Trump and he is your Ride or Die.

    You would talk about how they are “against the wall” and that the Supreme Court pick can’t be criticized because they have not been on the Supreme Court before and nobody knows how they will rule.

    Tina will say something about John Roberts.

  722. CG says:

    Pelosi and Schumer have tremendously more leverage on anything now, after yesterday.

  723. CG says:

    Poster Trump said on here yesterday that he wanted McCain to be assassinated. That slipped by everyone. I guess his posts aren’t looked at too closely.

  724. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    You are a sad man.

    When is the wedding, by the way?

  725. NYCmike says:

    “Pelosi and Schumer have tremendously more leverage on anything now, after yesterday.”

    -And you blame whom for this?

  726. Waingro says:

    “Trump knows the far left will hate them for making a deal with him on anything. They become neutered with their own manic base”

    I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I’m already seeing libs on my social media timelines VERY happy with debt limit deal and potential repeal.

    They will happily pocket these “great deals” and then eat their cake too when it comes to anything else.

  727. CG says:

    747. You at the moment

  728. Trump says:

    Liar Corey,

    I said trump would Econ my. Rushmore if he shot McCain on 5 th st.

    Get your facts right.

  729. Trump says:

    ” would be on mt. Rushmore”

  730. Trump says:

    Pelosi and schumer have leverage because they are delivering.

    Maybe McConnell and Ryan could learn.

  731. Waingro says:

    “Waingro,

    Can Republicans vote NAY if Trump was to push a Schumer pick, (which is very possible)?

    Which Senators would vote Yes?

    Would it be Cruz, Paul, Lee who vote Yay?”

    You know the usual suspects like McCain/Collins/Graham would vote for whomever. It would obviously be up to McConnell to prevent that from happening.

    However, at that point you would think it would already be all out war between GOP and Trump if it came to that. Mitchy is a very weak leader, but at some point, he will have nothing to lose if Trump has effectively declared he and the GOP as Enemy #1.

  732. NYCmike says:

    “And if Republicans opposed the liberal pick that Trump would make to the Supreme Court, you would attack them for that”

    -This guy doesn’t know me, AT ALL!

  733. Trump says:

    McConnell and Ryan are leading GOP to disaster in 2018.

    8 percent job approval.

  734. Waingro says:

    “Pelosi and schumer have leverage because they are delivering.

    Maybe McConnell and Ryan could learn.”

    The new “Send Them a Message!!” is supporting big government “great deals” with Democrats. We’ve come full circle.

  735. NYCmike says:

    “However, at that point you would think it would already be all out war between GOP and Trump if it came to that. Mitchy is a very weak leader, but at some point, he will have nothing to lose if Trump has effectively declared he and the GOP as Enemy #1.”

    -Somebody has some sense.

    Thank you, Waingro, for stating the same thing as I have:

    CONGRESS HAS POWER! USE IT! IN A CONSERVATIVE MANNER!

    Pass the same Obamacare REPEAL BIll that Obama vetoed would be a great start!

  736. CG says:

    Donald Trump would Tweet and threaten primary challenges to whomever in the Republican Party would oppose his Supreme Court pick.

    So as long as the Trumpers can outvote the anti-Trumpers in Republican primaries, the politicians are scared, and he gets whatever he wants, he can cut any deal with Democrats he wants, because he has keyboard soldiers like NYC and some others here who believe he can do no wrong.

  737. CG says:

    Gorsuch would not be on the Supreme Court if not for McConnell. That is irrefutable.

    Since Gorsuch is used as the main (and in most cases only) rationale that Trump supporters use to try to justify their support of him, they should acknowledge that they needed McConnell for it to happen. So much for him not being able to “get things done.”

  738. NYCmike says:

    Congress does not NEED Trump, except to sign the bills.

    Unfotunately, their leader, can not set a conservative agenda to be passed.

    YET, “CG”, Robbie, et al say NOTHING about their ineffectiveness……

  739. Waingro says:

    #759, agreed. And I hope Mitch has the same guts in taking Trump on if the going gets tough.

  740. NYCmike says:

    “Gorsuch would not be on the Supreme Court if not for McConnell. That is irrefutable.”

    -ANY person chosen as leader could have made that happen.

    Please let me know who were the Senators who worried you about caving in to pressure to have a vote on Garland.

    Was it Cruz, Lee, Paul,….or some of the others?

  741. CG says:

    It’s impossible for a Congress to get anything done when there is a President of the same party undercutting them. Calling their health care plan “mean” and not being able to speak coherently about the need for it to the American people.

    Nothing gets done unless a President has political capital. Trump has none and the party is in complete dysfunction.

    This is Political Science 101. NYC should take a class. Maybe his family can write it off as a business deduction, since posting here is his main duty.

  742. NYCmike says:

    ” And I hope Mitch has the same guts in taking Trump on if the going gets tough.”

    -Agreed.

    Which Senators will be the toughest ones to convince to say NAY to Schumers picks for judges, or to legislation pushed by Schumer/Pelosi?

    Would it be Cruz, Lee, Paul….or some of the others?

    Name names….

  743. Waingro says:

    #762: he still deserves credit for that though. But that is only one example. As I’ve stated elsewhere “But GORSUCH!!” doesn’t just apply to Trump. Mitchy still has a LONG way to go to prove any totality of effectiveness.

  744. Jonesy says:

    Of course Corey(D- Hillary) is never right about anything, so grain of salt.

    By the end of next week Trump will have up to 8 Appeals Court Judges confirmed. No biggie

  745. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Laughable.

    Pass the same Obamacare bill vetoed by Obama, and Trump would have signed.

    If he did not sign, then it would be all on him.

    Congress never gave him that chance.

  746. CG says:

    If a Supreme Court pick is nominated and they are seen as qualified, etc, typically all Senators vote to approve them because the President is given that power to nominate them. There was not much opposition to Obama’s picks because he was elected and elections have consequences.

    How would that be any different if Trump picked a liberal? All the Democrats would throw in with the scheme and Trump and his backers would turn all their fire on the Republicans who tried to stand in their way.

    What would NYC do then? Call for Trump to resign so Pence can nominate a conservative?

  747. Jonesy says:

    763. NYC Mike should take a class? LOL.

    Corey predicts Hillary in a landslide, and the GOP lose the House in 2016?

    Just rich

  748. NYCmike says:

    “#762: he still deserves credit for that though.”

    -Waingro,

    I have given him credit for that plenty of times.

    My argument is that overall, he has NOT been a good leader, as evidenced by the lack of legislation passed thru Congress for Trump to sign.

  749. Trump says:

    Mitch is a beaten dog.

    Review his statement on the debt/Harvey deal.

  750. Jonesy says:

    Right Mike. Trump did not undercut the GOP on Healthcare, that was Never Trump icon, John McCain.

  751. Trump says:

    Trump should pick Garland a if a sc seat opens up, just to stick it to Mitch.

  752. Jonesy says:

    Props for CG and Robbie, for providing comedy to this blog

  753. CG says:

    While I was wrong on the Presidential prediction, I pretty much nailed all 435 U.S. House races, district by district.

  754. NYCmike says:

    “How would that be any different if Trump picked a liberal? All the Democrats would throw in with the scheme and Trump and his backers would turn all their fire on the Republicans who tried to stand in their way.”

    -Vote NAY.

    Balls to the walls fight!

    All political norms have been thrown out the window by the Democrats.

    I can fight like them too.

    NOTHING happens until the people speak again!

    Show how the judges are like Obama judges, and they you have the issue for Republican Senators to increase their numbers in 2018.

    Trump has power, but if he picks like a Democrat, that power is lost, unless the Senate rolls over for him.

  755. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    How about the wedding? When is the date?

    Was it called off? Did something happen?

    Is there another stripper involved?

  756. CG says:

    Can anyone here truly envision NYC (and a handful of others) opposing Trump on any sort of political fight, regardless of whom it was with?

    If it’s Trump vs. Republicans in Congress, NYC is all in on Trump. Can anyone think of him acting in a different way?

  757. Waingro says:

    “Trump should pick Garland a if a sc seat opens up, just to stick it to Mitch”

    LOL. Another “message” sent. Are all big Trump supporters on board with this stuff, or is this just a fringe Soccer Guru thing?

  758. Tgca says:

    To all my HHR friends:

    After 12 years or whatever it’s been here at HHR, I want to have the opportunity to say how interesting my experience has been before I lose that opportunity. I hope I did not offend anyone here but if I did, I would sincerely like to say GFY and get over it. 🙂

    I’m not sure I’ll be available for posting this weekend since I have an unwelcomed visitor coming Sat. Her name is Irma, and she’s not very nice these days.

    We’ll see how it goes down here in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area. My house is less than 3 miles from the ocean and it’s on a waterway to the ocean, and water surge in my area is expected to be no more than 6 feet for a Cat 5. At least I kept my flood insurance. I’m hoping the hurricane windows and doors are worth the pretty penny I spent on them but we will soon find out if they can withstand the prescribed 150 mph winds they are designed to withstand.

    But enough about Irma…who wants to discuss ABORTION?

  759. NYCmike says:

    “Are all big Trump supporters on board with this stuff, or is this just a fringe Soccer Guru thing?”

    -Waingro,

    Although “trump” makes many good points about the “effectiveness” of McConnell/Ryan, most of his other yapping about “destroying Republicans” are the ramblings of the person who predicted Republicans would lose Congress last November.

  760. NYCmike says:

    “If it’s Trump vs. Republicans in Congress, NYC is all in on Trump. Can anyone think of him acting in a different way?”

    -Please state the issue.

    If he acts like a Democrat, I will fight him.

    To be honest, I would have wanted Mitch and Paul, after that meeting yesterday, to call Congress into session and pass a stand-alone Hurricane bill, and see what happened.

    Was that option available, or not?

  761. NYCmike says:

    Still waiting on any other issues with the Cotton/Perdue bill…….

    How many “CG” would you allow in every year, eligible for full benefits? Name a number.

  762. CG says:

    Oh please. You would tattoo a MAGA hat-wearing donkey on your ass before you would criticize Trump or side with his opponents.

    And no, once Trump sides with the Democrats, it’s over. That’s how it works. There weren’t enough votes for the Republican 18 month alternative on the debt ceiling because the Freedom Caucus did not find that good enough for them. So, now, they get something much worse.

  763. CG says:

    I don’t have a number but I would leave it at current levels instead of cutting it to 50%. Was Rand Paul wrong when he said that *anyone* who wanted to work can come to America and we will find a place for you?

    Isn’t it ironic how this was never a concern of yours before?

  764. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    708. 696. “It is interesting that Robbie swears he is a Republican, yet relies on polls from far leftist Democratic sites. –

    “This is really stupid, even for HHR. Math is math. Unless liberal have figured out how to make 2+2 equal something other than 4,”

    Yes Robbie, lets look at the math. By your favorite polls math, Hillary would be president today. And lets not forget the series of polls you confidentially quoted at the beginning of election night last November. Here are some of your tweets again.

    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 6:06 pm
    Give me a break.
    I’m totally disappointed Clinton’s going to win and more than a few good Republicans are going to lose because of it.
    I’m even more depressed that we have to wait another four years to try and fix this. Of course, if we nominate Cruz, then we’ll have to wait until 2024.
    I’m celebrating nothing. I’m pissed.
    __________
    I’m not sure if they have any state specific data, but Mark Halperin and John Heilemann both just suggested Democrats could sweep most of the Senate races. Earlier this evening, they didn’t offer that impression.

    __________________
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm
    Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:40 pm
    Look like a rough night, but we all knew that once Trump became the nominee.
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 8:12 pm
    Plenty of speculation that Blount is in big trouble.

    Robbie, your poll math flunked on election night.

  765. Jonesy says:

    787. Thanks SD. Robbie cannot spin those facts, for sure.

    Tgca, good luck down there

  766. NYCmike says:

    “Oh please. You would tattoo a MAGA hat-wearing donkey on your ass before you would criticize Trump or side with his opponents.”

    -Ok, grand jury, let’s take a look at the facts:

    Fact 1: Supported every other Republican candidate for President UNTIL Trump got enough delegates to win.

    Fact 2: Then supported Trump against Hillary.

    Grand Jury Decision:

    If “CG” wants to make an ass out of himself, let him take this to trial, but we are advising him he is a sanctimonious jackass, and he is wrong.

  767. NYCmike says:

    “Was Rand Paul wrong when he said that *anyone* who wanted to work can come to America and we will find a place for you?”

    -I NEVER supported that statement.

  768. NYCmike says:

    “Isn’t it ironic how this was never a concern of yours before?”

    -ENFORCING Immigration laws were NOT a concern of mine?

    jason, could you alert him to one of our ongoing spats, por favor?

  769. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t have a number but I would leave it at current levels instead of cutting it to 50%.”

    -Levels have fluctuated every year.

    Would you be like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush 41, Reagan?

    A number, otherwise you are evading.

  770. NYCmike says:

    http://www.emmigration.info/us-immigration-history-statistics.htm

    1961 – 1970: 3,321,677 immigrants arrive in the US

    1971 – 1980: 4,493,314 immigrants arrive in the US

    1981 – 1990: 7,338,062 immigrants arrive in the US

    1991 – 2000: 9,095,417 immigrants arrive in the US

    2001 – 2010: 13,900,000 immigrants arrive in the US

    -Looks like under Reagan, the number was about 45% lower.

    Cotton/Perdue looks to be pretty close to a good example.

  771. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC thinks that PA, WI, and MI get to set the agenda? Hmmmmm. Despite what he thinks, Trump did not win those states solely because of voters who supported him. He won in part because of people like me who hated Hillary more and forced ourselves to check off his name on the machine.

  772. NYCmike says:

    I would think the United States, as it has throughout its history, would look to have immigration levels be matched by the current situation.

    DO WE NEED to have the level of immigration we have right now?

    Do “conservatives” NOT ask themselves this question, or do we use our emotions like Democrats and allow anyone to enter?

    Do “conservatives” FEEL it is the immigrants RIGHT to come here?

  773. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca- Good luck. I hope you survive because if you die, that post scored a ZERO on the Maxwell Scale.

  774. CG says:

    Enforcing immigration laws has nothing to do with Cotton/Perdue. This is a big part of you being confused on issues. To enforce immigration laws would be to oppose Cotton/Perdue as it seeks to change them. An unintended side-effect of such a law would probably bring about an increase in illegal immigration. Remember, plenty of people can enter or remain in the country illegally, without crossing a border on foot.

    With illegal immigration going down, I would want to increase legal immigration. I think there has to be a clear process for this but generally speaking, I agree with Rand Paul, that anybody who wants to follow that process and has some kind of job lined up or a sponsor should be able to come here. That is how our families got to America, isn’t it?

  775. NYCmike says:

    Did I say they set the agenda? Please cut-and-paste it, will you please?

    Or did I say that those voters were receptive to an agenda, one which enabled a Republican candidate for President to reach 270 Electoral Votes?

    (which consequently, is the objective!)

  776. Bitterlaw says:

    I am not opposed to legal immigration for 2 reasons. First, I do believe that America should be a beacon of opportunity. Second, with the exception of Jason, none of us EARNED our citizenship. We lucked into it by being born.

    That being said, I do want the border secure and illegal immigration stopped as much as possible,

  777. Diamond Jim says:

    DCCC

  778. CG says:

    The factor that NYC would seem to be missing is that people come here depending on factors such as economic or political conditions in their own country and based upon the economic conditions in the U.S. at the time. So, of course it’s going to fluctuate.

    If we start drastically reducing the number of legal immigrants, that might not be good for your family business (I assume everyone employed is documented) and you might have to do some tasks you would not enjoy instead of typing here.

  779. Tina says:

    Any muh russian news?

  780. Tina says:

    I see two days and no plan details from daca ryano or lil mitchie.

  781. Tina says:

    I am for legal immigration too, bl.

    Daca is amnesty.

    Illegal immigration is illegal.

    Wall needs to be built.

    You would think the corrupt mexican gubment woukd seek out the daca kids.

  782. Tina says:

    The flu hillary position on illegals is the worst.

  783. Robbie says:

    Charlie Dent just announced he’s retiring. Republican retirements are coming fast now as they realize Trump is a sinking ship who is going annihilate Republicans next year.

  784. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:22 pm
    I am for legal immigration too, bl.
    Daca is amnesty.
    Illegal immigration is illegal.
    Wall needs to be built.
    You would think the corrupt mexican gubment woukd seek out the daca kids.

    – Can’t wait to read your opinion when Trump cuts a deal with Schumer and Pelosi to give amnesty to DACA people.

  785. Tina says:

    What deal did he do over ryano and mitxhie.

    2 days and no answer

  786. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    September 7, 2017 at 5:07 pm
    Props for CG and Robbie, for providing comedy to this blog

    – Hey, look. It the sniveling Trump cultist who called me an anti-Semite because he didn’t like my views about Trump’s disastrous presidency.

  787. Tina says:

    DanRiehl @DanRiehl
    ·
    1h
    He told her at a packed rally that ‘You’ve got this’ – but Bill Clinton told his wife ‘You might lose’

    The walking std was right, obumbler wromg. The walking std should have stayed away from debate 2. She also should not have done the 9/11 parade.

  788. CG says:

    Robbie, you compared me to a Japanese soldier trying to kill Americans after the end of WWII because you didn’t at the time like my views about Trump’s disastrous Presidency. But then I guess you somehow came to your senses about him.

  789. Tina says:

    Bribery case against Sen. Bob Menendez and friend an ‘attack’ on Hispanics, defense says

    Ann navaro approves of this message.

  790. Tina says:

    bl, check this out.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-hampshire-presiden/

    You are for same day reg, right? May have cost ayotte her race.

  791. Tina says:

    Republican Lamar Alexander, Susan Collins and Lindsay Graham joined Democrat committee members in supporting this amendment.
    Nick Short ?? @PoliticalShort
    Senate committee defies Trump, approves $10 million (of taxpayer money) for UN climate change fund.

    Real comservatives here.

  792. Tina says:

    Fox News @FoxNews
    Kimmel Knocks #Hillary’s Book: ‘Like Reading About the Titanic at the Bottom of the Ocean’

    The jebots still love her, kimud.

  793. Bitterlaw says:

    Dent has a primary challenger. He claims to be conservative. If he loses the General Election, NYC will be happy that a message was sent.

  794. Trump says:

    Why don’t you run on increasing immigration, legal or illegal, and see how far you go.

    Didn’t the stance doom the GOP losers?

  795. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 7, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    Yes Robbie, lets look at the math. By your favorite polls math, Hillary would be president today. And lets not forget the series of polls you confidentially quoted at the beginning of election night last November. Here are some of your tweets again.

    – Got some bad news for you SDC. The polls predicted Clinton would win the national vote and they were right. Or did you not notice that Orange Donnie lost the popular vote (which national polls measure) by a couple of million?

    Also, how is math my problem? I didn’t conduct those polls. I didn’t conduct the exits polls. If you’ve got a problem with the polls, take it up with the people who conducted them.

    And one more thing. You predicted Trump would lose as well. Does that mean you flunked math? Or is this just about the fact you don’t like that I a meanie to poor old Donnie?

    I know, I know. BUT RASMUSSEN!

    Explain to me how Rasmussen can conduct a credible national poll when robo-polling is prohibited in certain states.

  796. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:21 pm
    I see two days and no plan details from daca ryano or lil mitchie.

    – But your boy Orange Donnie is ready to cut deals with the woman you call Piglosi. MAGA!

  797. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Why would you think I support same day registration? I do not. I also oppose early voting and voting by mail. The only exceptions would be absentee ballots for those who are sick, disabled, or in the military. Everybody else should get in line between 7:00 am and 8;00 pm and vote on Election Day.

  798. Tina says:

    Mitchie had a plan and sidekick ryano too.

  799. Tina says:

    Lbj had a plan to end vietnam too.

  800. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:32 pm
    Robbie, you compared me to a Japanese soldier trying to kill Americans after the end of WWII because you didn’t at the time like my views about Trump’s disastrous Presidency. But then I guess you somehow came to your senses about him.

    – After Trump won, I gave him a second chance and I felt everyone should. You didn’t. My second chance ended with is insane lie that Obama wiretapped him.

  801. Tina says:

    What was there plan, seriously?

  802. Trump says:

    They all have grand plans.
    Reality is 8 percent job approval.

  803. Tina says:

    Bl, seem to recall a few months ago, you said it had no impact. I suggested that it could. I wish she were still in the senate.

  804. Tina says:

    Plans to drink booze and smoke cigars at 8 pm.

  805. Trump says:

    Cretin, nobody cares about your second chance.

    Fu ck off, as$hole.

  806. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:37 pm
    Dent has a primary challenger. He claims to be conservative. If he loses the General Election, NYC will be happy that a message was sent.

    – I think there’s a law that says if enough messages are sent, Ted Cruz’s agenda gets instituted.

  807. Tina says:

    45 is a good number. Gen kelly has cracked down well.

    Bannon is armed outside, rino hunting, which is a great thing.

  808. Trump says:

    You are nothing more than a sub-human cretin driven by hate of trump.

  809. Tina says:

    I motice that maggie clintune has no leaks from rinse prrubus.

  810. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:42 pm
    Mitchie had a plan and sidekick ryano too.

    – And your orange hero decided to side with Piglosi’s plan. Sad!

  811. Trump says:

    That’s the only thing consistent. That, and jeb cocsucking.

  812. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    Fu ck off, as$hole.

    – Right back at you.

  813. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:45 pm
    45 is a good number. Gen kelly has cracked down well.
    Bannon is armed outside, rino hunting, which is a great thing.

    – Yeah, Bannon is insulting the Catholic Church to defend Orange Donnie, your hero.

  814. NYCmike says:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/345145-the-cotton-perdue-raise-act-is-a-refreshing-effort-to-help

    -“CG”,

    I am fine with negotiating larger numbers.

    BUT, let’s get our Representatives on record.

    You seem to be like McConnell, in that a public airing of this debate will make you answer questions that you don’t want to answer.

    “The RAISE Act would also unshackle the chain migration approach that has operated as codified nepotism. A key component of this bill is limiting family-based green cards to the nuclear family, meaning spouses and minor children. If the siblings or adult children of a citizen want to come to the U.S., they are now going to have to earn their way in. Sensibly, the bill does allow U.S. citizens to bring in their non-citizen elderly parents for caretaking purposes, but they cannot access taxpayer funded services.”

  815. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:47 pm
    That’s the only thing consistent. That, and jeb cocsucking.

    – And you providing nothing to the conversation here but unhinged perverted attacks.

  816. Trump says:

    How’s that Jeb cocsucking going?

    Brokered convention, as$hole?

    The greatest thing about trump is fuc King you daily.

    Greatest ever.

  817. Robbie says:

    The RAISE Act isn’t going to happen. Move along.

  818. Tina says:

    What were there plans?

    Fifth time it has been asked.

  819. Trump says:

    You deserve nothing more, Jeb cocsucker.

  820. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw, Robbie, Wes, and many more want the return to monarchy, or something like it:

    Once you get the position, it is yours for life!

  821. Tina says:

    Medicare part d was a sell out to the drats.

  822. Tina says:

    The chain immigration.needs to end.

    The gubment of mexico should take the daca kids back. The gubment is corrupt.

  823. NYCmike says:

    “Since 1965, U.S. immigration policy has prioritized nepotism—extended family relationships—over skills. As a result of our chain migration policies, the U.S. hands out over 1.1 million new green cards a year with approximately two-thirds going to immigrants who happen to have a family member in the country, regardless of that immigrant’s ability to assimilate and contribute to the economy. For some perspective, that is the equivalent of adding the entire population of Montana every year. Just one out of every 15 new immigrants are awarded green cards because of their skills.

    The results are unsurprising. Decades of flooding the labor force with low-skilled workers has caused blue collar wages to flat-line or decrease. In many cases, most notably construction, new low-skilled immigrants have replaced blue collar Americans, especially native born minority males. A few years ago, the nonpartisan Center for Immigration Studies found that an astounding 51 percent of immigrant-headed households (legal and illegal) rely on at least one federal taxpayer-funded welfare program, compared to 30 percent of native households.”

    -Yup, no need to re-visit the issue whatsoever!

  824. Trump says:

    If the GOP had done waist it was elected to do, there would be no president trump.

    And the GOP has doubled down on stupidity.

    8 percent approval.

  825. Robbie says:

    Trump with a 38% approval rating after just seven months and a booming economy. That takes talent.

  826. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted
    Steve Bannen
    Steve Bannen @SteveBannen
    ·
    7h
    It’ll probably take a couple of days to hit Paul Ryan that yesterday was the day that Trump effectively took over control of Congress.

    Daca wanted to waste two weeks on the same bill.

  827. NYCmike says:

    “The RAISE Act isn’t going to happen. Move along.”

    Heh. As I just wrote:

    -Yup, no need to re-visit the issue whatsoever!

    This is the Republican Party LEADERSHIP position.

  828. Tina says:

    Daca was trying to run out the clock. The grand finale was an imnibus bill. 2015 all over, when he let the drats win accross the board.

    Not a fighter, but a punching bag.

  829. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:50 pm
    Bitterlaw, Robbie, Wes, and many more want the return to monarchy, or something like it:
    Once you get the position, it is yours for life!

    – No. I want someone who is competent as president. I don’t want someone who would fail a physciatric evaluation like Trump would.

  830. Trump says:

    In 7 years, you will be getting kid rock as your nominee.

    The days of stupid losers like Romney, McCain, Jeb and Rubio as nominees are gone.

  831. NYCmike says:

    A “life-long” “liberal Democrat” President was willing to help Cotton/Perdue get passed.

    What did the Republican leadership say?

    “Move along.”

  832. Tina says:

    So, ryano, daca and mitchie, lil did not have any plans.

  833. Trump says:

    Trump is cruising to reelection.

    That’s what the Jeb cocsucker cannot handle.

  834. Tina says:

    The r leadership is for open borders. We need to take out the bush wing of the party. They are just drats in drag.

  835. NYCmike says:

    “Move along.”

    -That has been the answer from a Republican Congress to President Trump.

    Did they send him a REPEAL bill like they sent to Obama?

    NO.

    Have they sent a tax reform bill?

    NO.

    Did they try to do anything with immigration?

    “Move along.”

  836. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:53 pm
    “The RAISE Act isn’t going to happen. Move along.”
    Heh. As I just wrote:
    -Yup, no need to re-visit the issue whatsoever!
    This is the Republican Party LEADERSHIP position.

    – It’s not happening. There aren’t 20 votes for it in the Senate. That’s just the harsh reality.

    I’ll go with Reagan’s view on immigration. You can go with Trump’s. One won 49 states. The other lost to Hillary by 3 million votes nationally and has already seen his presidency crater after seven months.

  837. NYCmike says:

    “The r leadership is for open borders.”

    -Robbie?

    “CG”?

    Do you disagree?

  838. Trump says:

    Based on what,more tin? Your fake polls?

  839. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:56 pm
    So, ryano, daca and mitchie, lil did not have any plans.

    – And Trump’s plan is amnesty. What a bitter pill that must be for you to swallow. You will though like the good little Trump cultist you are.

  840. Tina says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4858922/amp/Hillary-s-latest-targets-blame-women-marchers-Lauer.html

    She is attacking everybody for her failure. Did ahe blame the ukrainian gubment for not helping her enough?

  841. Tina says:

    What hapoened to antifuda and kkk?

    Did the drats have a grand truce.

  842. Tina says:

    You love amnesty.

  843. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:57 pm
    “The r leadership is for open borders.”
    -Robbie?
    “CG”?
    Do you disagree?

    – No. Give it a rest with this stupid talking point.

  844. NYCmike says:

    “I’ll go with Reagan’s view on immigration.”

    1981 – 1990: 7,338,062 immigrants arrive in the US

    1991 – 2000: 9,095,417 immigrants arrive in the US

    2001 – 2010: 13,900,000 immigrants arrive in the US

    -But he is against reduced numbers of legal immigrants.

  845. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 7:59 pm
    You love amnesty.

    – Bless your heart. I know it’s been a tough week for you. Your man Orange Donnie is now working with Piglosi on amnesty for DACA. Ha!

  846. CG says:

    “And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here.”

    Ronald Reagan

  847. NYCmike says:

    You don’t disagree with Tina?

    She said “The r leadership is for open borders”.

    You agree with her?

    Or disagree?

  848. Trump says:

    The Jeb-fuc ked brain dead cretin thinks Trump presidency is cratering.

    Based on his Jeb-soaked fantasy. The fu ck tard can’t get GOP convention right.

  849. lisab says:

    I agree with Rand Paul, that anybody who wants to follow that process and has some kind of job lined up or a sponsor should be able to come here. That is how our families got to America, isn’t it?
    ———————–

    200 million chinese want to come here

    is that ok?

  850. Trump says:

    Reagan is dead.

    Trump is president.

    Deal with it.

  851. Tina says:

    The drat is for open borders.

    Drat lied and claimed daca ryano and mitchie had plans.

  852. NYCmike says:

    Reagan was always able to look back and see if he made a mistake.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh2DeQtVyJM

    Unlike you…….

  853. Tina says:

    Ryano is for daca. Was against it when obama was in office.

  854. NYCmike says:

    “200 million chinese want to come here

    is that ok?”

    -Anyone?

  855. Trump says:

    Rand Paul is not president.

    With his stance, got told to fu ck off by the primary voters.

  856. NYCmike says:

    200 million Russians want to come here

    is that ok?

    -Anyone?

  857. CG says:

    What that shows is that the number of immigrants coming to America legally increased dramatically when Reagan was President. Why? The economy improved so much between 1981 when we were in a recession and 1991. Somehow, NYC is still confused by almost everything.

    Ronald Reagan was very proud to be President of such a welcoming country to legal immigrants.

  858. Trump says:

    Reagan is dead.

    Half the voters were not even born when Reagan was president.

    Why not Eisenhower, who curtailed all immigration ?

  859. Tina says:

    Amnesty is why immigration increased under reagan. He admitted to a mistake.

  860. Bitterlaw says:

    Not true. Wes wants to restore the Confederacy. Robbie wants to restore the Medici Popes to rule over us. I don’t really care since death can’t be more than 30 years away for me. I can ride it out until then.

  861. CG says:

    And I will state my opinion-

    There is not a rational argument in the world to justify deporting people who were brought here as children, through no fault of their own, and who have followed all the rules we have put upon them to be a part of the program. Deport them (and they are from a lot of other places besides just Mexico) away from the only country and the only life they have ever known? What have they done wrong?

    Even Donald Trump, despite his b.s. red meat during the campaign knows this, which is why we have to assume he will sign a bill to allow them to stay permanently. Obama’s Executive Action was wrong, so Congress should do this the right way and Trump should do the right thing and sign it.

  862. NYCmike says:

    200 million europeans want to come here

    is that ok?

    -anyone?

  863. Tina says:

    Is. Itchie for daca?

  864. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason came here legally in order to pursue his dreams. The disturbing lack of American laws dealing with relationships with llamas is purely coincidental.

  865. Tina says:

    Median age of daca children is 26.

    2/3rds mexican.

    1/3rd c a.

  866. Bitterlaw says:

    200 million Russians would not be ok. Any more stupid questions?

  867. CG says:

    887. It was ok when your family wanted to come here once.

    What skills do you have that a legal immigrant does not? Do you not think that the typical immigrant works harder than you do on a daily basis?

  868. NYCmike says:

    “The economy improved so much between 1981 when we were in a recession and 1991.”

    -Fair enough.

    How is our economy NOW, how is our balance sheet NOW, what does the future of employment for low-skilled workers look like NOW?

  869. CG says:

    Yes, children grow up and turn 26. Usually even 27 after that. They were still children at one point. I hope this is not earth shattering news.

  870. Tina says:

    They are children because they live in the basement..

    Lol, stupid.

  871. CG says:

    The desire to immigrate to America now is down considerably from where it has been in the past. I hope one day that could change, but I also hope one day that people do not have to flee the countries they were born in for economic, political, religious reasons, etc.

  872. Tina says:

    Myth, daca children are not children.

  873. Bitterlaw says:

    If a 26 year old was brought here illegally as a baby, should we deport them to a country that have not been to in 26 years? I say no. If they must be deported, send them to another country where they never lived. It makes as much sense. How about Monaco or Estonia?

  874. lisab says:

    “200 million Russians would not be ok.”

    soooooooooo … not russians

  875. NYCmike says:

    200 million africans want to come here

    is that ok?

    -anyone?

  876. NYCmike says:

    200 million so americans want to come here

    is that ok?

    -anyone?

  877. Tina says:

    Jb would have fixed daca.

  878. Tina says:

    What about muh russians?

  879. Trump says:

    I don’t see you running on a DACA platform.

    The losers who did? Where are they?

    I would suggest somebody making increased immigration their platform.

  880. lisab says:

    How about Monaco or Estonia?
    —————

    those countries actually don’t allow non-citizens to just move there as permanent residents without following their immigration laws

  881. lisab says:

    What about muh russians?
    ——————————-

    bitterlaw says no

  882. Trump says:

    Yes, deport them to country of their citizenship.

  883. NYCmike says:

    “CG” bringing up DACA and deportation.

    I would NOT deport them.

    But, I would use the illegality of DACA, and those illegals it benefitted, to get concessions out of Democrats concerning immigration laws, such as end to chain migration and an end to unlimited welfare services.

    If Democrats don’t go for it, Cotton/Perdue does NOT become law, DACA is phased out, and the precious “children”, who did NOT vote for Republicans in the last election, live with a shadow over their heads, BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATIC STUBBORNESS.

  884. Bitterlaw says:

    How about 5,000 Russians coming here, NYC? The problem for you is that if you say even 1 legal immigrant is ok, you are no longer opposed to legal immigration. You are just arguing about numbers.

  885. NYCmike says:

    Unless, of course, the r leadership is for the current state of affairs concerning immigration, like “CG” and Robbie are.

  886. NYCmike says:

    I am NOT opposed to legal immigration whatsoever.

    I do want to take a look at how it is done, the numbers involved, and also want to beef up the ENFORCEMENT aspect of the immigration issue.

    Right now, we have a Congressional leadership that wants to do NOTHING.

    Do you agree with their stance?

  887. lisab says:

    It was ok when your family wanted to come here once.
    ——————————————-

    soooooooooo … 200 million chinese immigrants are fine with you then …

  888. CG says:

    What concessions? What is your end game? Deportation?

    Why not jail time or executions for them if you think you can get a better deal out of it.

    Unless you are actually prepared to deport them, it’s pointless to use them as bait that way.

    You are still confused about Cotton/Perdue and DACA. Just because they deal with “foreigners” does not mean it’s the same issue. You still seem to not quite grasp that Cotton/Perdue is about legal immigration or are pretending that it’s not about that.

    Clearly, Donald Trump has no intention and never did have any intention of actually deporting the DACA people.

    Let’s get DACA done with and deal with the other matters separately.

  889. Trump says:

    The moron is concerned now with numbers.

    Idiot, that’s always the case.

    Nobody would make fuss about 10 illegal immigrants either. When it gets to 1 million or 10 million is when it creates problems.

    Same with legal immigration.

  890. CG says:

    What does DACA have to do with voting?

    Who in the world is suggesting that the DACA kids are to automatically become voters or citizens?

  891. lisab says:

    The problem for you is that if you say even 1 legal immigrant is ok, you are no longer opposed to legal immigration. You are just arguing about numbers.
    ——————————-

    bitterlaw,

    that is what nyc actually said … he was willing to discuss numbers

  892. Trump says:

    I am all for Eisenhower approach on immigration.

  893. Trump says:

    Let’s get DACA done. Sunset altogether.

  894. Trump says:

    Over and done with.

  895. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC was mad at Rubio for wanting to do something. He is now mad st Congress for not wanting to do something.

  896. NYCmike says:

    “What skills do you have that a legal immigrant does not? Do you not think that the typical immigrant works harder than you do on a daily basis?”

    -The questions are not posed to us.

    They are supposed to be posed by our leaders looking at our nation, and trying to see what is best for the future of the country.

  897. Trump says:

    Here’s the real deal.

    Run on a platform of DACA. Win and impose DACA.

  898. NYCmike says:

    “NYC was mad at Rubio for wanting to do something.”

    -That is partially correct.

    You forget the word “stupid” at the end.

  899. Trump says:

    DACA is a great issue to run on.

    Make that a centerpiece of your platform.

  900. NYCmike says:

    Cotton/Perdue is taking the screwed up system and saying “LET’s LOOK at EVERYTHING!”

    People like “CG”, Robbie, Bitterlaw, McConnell must think there is nothing wrong with the current system.

  901. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:13 pm
    Jb would have fixed daca.

    – And it turns out your man Orange Donnie is going to as well. Except he’s going to do it with the help of Pelosi. What a bitter pill for you to swallow. I’m laughing though because you fell for Trump’s BS.

  902. Tina says:

    Does the jebot realize that r leadership now suppoorts daca?

  903. Tina says:

    Ryano, daca wants daca.

    R leadership.

  904. CG says:

    The vast overwhelming majority of the country is opposed to deporting the DACA “kids.” That is why Trump knows it can never happen. He will sign it and declare himself “the most compassionate person.” Democrats are overplaying their hand on this because they would rather have an issue to fight Trump on. I despise Trump, but I actually just want the right thing to get done.

  905. Tina says:

    They are ways to kick the daca kids out of here.

  906. Tina says:

    And they are not kids.

  907. CG says:

    I wish we could have a poll-

    Who produces more for the U.S. economy on a daily basis?

    A. The average immigrant
    B. NYCMike

  908. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/hillary-clinton-binged-alcohol-junk-food-cope-crushing-election-loss/

    The jebots presidential candidate binged on chardonnay and junk food.

    Is that whynshe collapsed on 9/11?

  909. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:22 pm
    NYC was mad at Rubio for wanting to do something. He is now mad st Congress for not wanting to do something.

    – NYCMike is continually at war with himself.

  910. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – NYC is forgetting his opposition to immigration reform. Of course, that was months ago. He can’t remember that far back.

  911. Tina says:

    There is a lot of jebot production in paper planes and cleaning airports.

  912. Trump says:

    Nothing will be done on DACA.

    If there was, it would have been done.

    DACA came about because nothing was done to those illegals.

  913. CG says:

    Everyone wants DACA to be passed, including Donald J. Trump. So let’s get it done. It should be a slam dunk.

  914. Tina says:

    I am surre she used more than just chardonay.

  915. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:26 pm
    Cotton/Perdue is taking the screwed up system and saying “LET’s LOOK at EVERYTHING!”

    People like “CG”, Robbie, Bitterlaw, McConnell must think there is nothing wrong with the current system.

    – Never said that and you know that. Just noting the reality that Cotton is never going to happen. No one is going to cut legal immigration by 50%.

    Immigration is a niche issue for the hardcore base. It’s not a national issue.

  916. Bitterlaw says:

    I really hate the New England Patriots. . Just start the game.

  917. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:28 pm
    Does the jebot realize that r leadership now suppoorts daca?

    – Do you realize Trump is going to work with Piglosi to make amnesty happen? So delicious.

  918. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:29 pm
    Ryano, daca wants daca.

    R leadership.

    – So does Trump. Ha! You got played.

  919. Trump says:

    If it was a slam dunk, it would have been done, moron.

  920. Tina says:

    Everybody wants daca?
    Not the r leadership.

  921. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:31 pm
    There is a lot of jebot production in paper planes and cleaning airports.

    – Bless your heart. Faced with the realization Trump was playing you for a fool on immigration, you go with the “paper airplane” comment. Sad.

  922. Tina says:

    Mitchie wants daca..

    You got played.

  923. Tina says:

    Bless your hear wrote the drat troll from the basement.

  924. lisab says:

    at a time when the dems are actually starting to suggest we need universal income because thet predict automation will take away many low wage and even many middle class jobs,

    unfettered unskilled immigration is ok with you?

  925. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:34 pm
    Everybody wants daca?
    Not the r leadership.

    – Trump does!

  926. Trump says:

    Trump fu cking Robbie daily.

    Life is good.

  927. CG says:

    951 is obviously the Gayest Post of the Day. No contest.

  928. lisab says:

    200 million chinese immigrants was an actual offer to jimmy carter

    he declined

  929. Trump says:

    If DACA was so popular, it would be law.

  930. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    September 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm
    Mitchie wants daca..

    You got played.

    – I’ve never really cared passionately about immigration. Fix DACA, don’t fix DACA.

    You do though and Trump played you like a fine violin. It’s so funny to watch as well.

  931. Tina says:

    Nope, never made comments on daca.

    Made comments m13 and the wall though and knowing jeb was comparable to hillary on illegals.

  932. Trump says:

    Trump threw DACA into Ryan’s hands.

    Just to fu ck him up.

    Watch the clueless idiot fumble the hot potato.

  933. NYCmike says:

    ” No one is going to cut legal immigration by 50%.”

    -Why do you keep mentioning numbers?

    What are the other issues that Republicans in Congress disagree with in Cotton/Perdue?

    The numbers are flexible.

    The main point is who makes the decision?

    1960’s Ted Kennedy?
    or
    2017 Republican leadership/Trump, with every year after that being another chance for the Executive Branch to say “Ok, what is the NEED NOW for our nation?”

  934. lisab says:

    had carter accepted, we would certainly have better chinese food in this country

  935. NYCmike says:

    #949 – lisab,

    I predict “CG”, Robbie, Bitterlaw and several others will ignore your question.

  936. Tina says:

    I think we go back to eisonhower and as far away from obama, bush hillary in illegals.

  937. Trump says:

    Just another hand greanade to screw Mitch and Paul.

    They can’t afford to bring it up. Their voters would kill them, especially after they royally screwed up Obamacare repeal.

    8 percent job approval.

    Trump knows how to step on the throats of losers.

  938. Tina says:

    Daca ryano wants daca.

    Is ryano part of leadership?

  939. NYCmike says:

    “– Do you realize Trump is going to work with Piglosi to make amnesty happen? So delicious.”

    -AGAIN, how does any bill get brought up, when Ryan is in charge of House?

    Do you have any idea how this works?

  940. Trump says:

    They should have learned from the primaries that Trump really crushes the losers.

  941. lisab says:

    Why do you keep mentioning numbers?
    —————————–

    i think we should mention numbers

    in 10 years we coul have half a billion people in this country

  942. CG says:

    There is nowhere near enough support for Cotton/Perdue, but I would like to see it voted down, so people can see who the Reagan Republicans are in Congress and who the Trump Republicans are.

    We can certainly have our government have discussions about chain migration or about if we need a tiered system to give expedited green cards to people with certain in demand skills, but changing our entire culture to suggest that a poor immigrant cannot come to America to work and achieve the American Dream is wrong. It is also wrong to suggest that being an immigrant is synonymous with being on welfare.

    Politicians are concerned about politics though. And what the people who are pushing this (suddenly after claiming they only cared about stopping illegal immigration) are doing is giving off the vibe that if someone is not a certain color or a certain religion that they should not be allowed to come to America. We saw a lot of that sort of thing on HHR in the past with michael corleone and mnw, and clearly there are a lot of those people in the Trump base, and that is still a long-term suicide pact for the Republican Party (which is what a lot of his supporters want to see happen anyway)

  943. Trump says:

    Run on it, moron.

    It’s a winner for you.

  944. Trump says:

    Jeb ran on immigration.

  945. Trump says:

    Bush tried “comprehensive immigration reform”

    Beginning of his end.

  946. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    There is NO WAY to get Democrats to care about illegal immigration unless you look to upend the whole program, and MAKE them come to the table and negotiate.

    I am not asking for 100% of what Cotton/Perdue have proposed.

    But I want more than 50%.

    What more do you disagree with? Where would Cotton/Perdue have to compromise?

    You agree with nothing they are trying to do?

  947. CG says:

    Briefly,

    Don’t in anyway support a “universal income” and do not support “unfettered immigration.” Clearly, legal processes must be in place to give people visas or green cards.

    Automation will never take the place of some jobs and there are many jobs that American born citizens, no matter how poor, will ever agree to do in necessary numbers. So, immigration is needed for the economy and every single one of us depends on it in our lives, in ways we might not realize.

    Trump himself said he needed foreign workers for Mar-A-Lago and only foreign workers, so if it is good enough for him, it’s good enough everywhere else in America.

  948. lisab says:

    i am reasonably sure there are at least 200 million unskilled indian immigrants who would like to come here too

    is this ok?

  949. NYCmike says:

    “It is also wrong to suggest that being an immigrant is synonymous with being on welfare.”

    -Are you saying that 51% number was incorrect?

    I hope you notified the writer of that article.

  950. lisab says:

    Clearly, legal processes must be in place to give people visas or green cards.
    ———————————–

    sooooooooo 200 million is fine so long as we have them fill out the appropriate paperwork?

  951. NYCmike says:

    “Briefly,

    Don’t in anyway support a “universal income” and do not support “unfettered immigration.” Clearly, legal processes must be in place to give people visas or green cards.”

    -But, you won’t give a number, as you know Democrats will always go higher.

    WHICH IS WHY Cotton/Perdue are going so low….it is negotiable.

    Unless of course, the R leadership does not want to say what they believe.

  952. CG says:

    NYC- no drop in legal immigration levels. No requirement that someone must be high-skilled to come to America.

    Drop those and see what else there is talk about, bt I suggest that the people who want this bill wouldn’t think it is worth it. So, in politics, the majority wins, and the majority is clearly against those provisions in the bill.

    I think we should continue to combat illegal immigration (without the ridiculous concept of a wall along an entire border that would be nothing more than a boondoggle for the taxpayers) and as those numbers fall, there should be no reason why we cannot make it easier to come to America legally.

    Now, I have answered your questions, have I not?

  953. CG says:

    See you in October

  954. NYCmike says:

    Patriots just used about 7 different RB’s and WR’s to march down the field and score.

    MUST BE CHEATING AGAIN.

  955. lisab says:

    Automation will never take the place of some jobs
    ————————–

    soooooooooo … robots cannot pick fruit?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS0coCmXiYU

    or lay bricks?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VR4IcDhX0

    or be a cowboy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDb8BaUGM-I

  956. NYCmike says:

    “No requirement that someone must be high-skilled to come to America.”

    -Got it.

    Whatever the future holds, and despite the differences in employment NOW compared to in the past, our nation should NEVER re-evaluate its policies.

    Got it.

  957. NYCmike says:

    I think Belichek may have reminded his players about the beatdown the Chiefs put on the Patriots several years ago.

  958. Tina says:

    Trump himself daid he needs workers for mar a lago.

    Lol, jebots arre just stupid.

  959. Trump says:

    Trump used his platform as a referendum on immigration.

    See what it got him.

  960. lisab says:

    Whatever the future holds, and despite the differences in employment NOW compared to in the past, our nation should NEVER re-evaluate its policies.
    —————————–

    clearly we need MORE unskilled workers

  961. Trump says:

    I wonder why no one else ran on same level or increased immigration.

    It’s a mystery.

  962. Tina says:

    More illegals to depress the wages down.

    Outsource more too.

    I am jeb bush. See you in 2020

    Btw, i wrote i was mexican on my voter ballot.

  963. Trump says:

    Only brain dead morons can’t figure this out.

  964. lisab says:

    Btw, i wrote i was mexican on my voter ballot.
    ———————————————–

    my name is officially

    dances with jebots

  965. Tina says:

    Ryan interviewing with Martha McCallum on Fox right now.

    Saying pleasant, inoffensive things about Trump striking a deal with Dems.
    Banner underneath says “Ryan: It’s Natural For the President To Speak With Leaders of Various Parties”

    daca ryano just flipped on fox. Now concurs with trumps deal.

    Lol.

  966. Tina says:

    Nbc reports massive round up of illegals underway.

    8500 targeted.

  967. Bitterlaw says:

    960 zzzzzzzzz

    M

  968. lisab says:

    i guess 200 million chinese immigrants is fine then

  969. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – GFY. I have never posted in favor of illegal immigration.

  970. Bitterlaw says:

    995 Zzzzzzzzzz. The question was just as stupid when it was about 200 million Russians. The answer is the same. Not acceptable.

  971. lisab says:

    sooooooooo … 199 million?

  972. Trump says:

    There are already 300m people in US.

    Why would anyone want more?

  973. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  974. Trump says:

    Send them to Europe and Japan.

    Their populations are dying.

  975. Trump says:

    Or Canada. It is severely underpopulated.

  976. lisab says:

    Send them to Europe and Japan.
    ——————————–

    no no

    cg said that we should follow the rules from when our families immigrated here, which in my case was the 1600’s

    soooooooo we should accept them

  977. lisab says:

    they want to come here

    they say they are willing to work

    surely you are not bigoted against 199 million chinese immigrants, which is bitterlaw’s currently accepted number to not be racist

  978. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought lisab’ ancestors were wiped out in Salem. Maybe that was just the older women.

  979. lisab says:

    obviously 200 million chinese unskilled immigrants would NOT be acceptable!!!!!

    because … ummmmmmm … reasons

  980. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab is going to lie about me all night. Whatever.

  981. lisab says:

    I thought lisab’ ancestors were wiped out in Salem.
    ———————–

    you never saw hocus pocus?

  982. lisab says:

    Lisab is going to lie about me all night. Whatever.
    ————————-

    nope … you said 200 million chinese immigrants was unacceptable

    i assume you have your reasons

    (and of course 200 million russian immigrants was right out)

  983. Bitterlaw says:

    That movie was awful.

  984. lisab says:

    is it the borshch?

  985. lisab says:

    oh no!!!!!

    will an grace is coming back to tv

    it is the end of times!

  986. Tina says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/349748-ryan-trumps-debt-ceiling-decision-was-perfectly-reasonable-and-rational?amp

    Ryan praises trumps debt ceiling increase.

    Lol, jebots jumped the shark with theirmfake news.

  987. lisab says:

    trumps debt ceiling decision was perfectly reasonable
    ————————-

    but did you see milania’s shoes?

  988. Tina says:

    Stilettos are unreasonable in wet terrain and invanka should not speak on tax cuts

    Jebots

  989. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – Gay people can get married. They are as boring as straight people now. Unless Will or Grace are switching genders, they are not edgy anymore.

  990. Trump says:

    On wed, this clueless dolt called the dem position “disgraceful”.

    Hopefully, he now realizes that Trump means business.

  991. Trump says:

    Unworkable and disgraceful. That was on Wednesday.

    Reasonable and rational, on Thursday.

    What a difference one day of horse-whipping makes.

  992. lisab says:

    they are not edgy anymore.
    ———————————–

    they were never edgy

  993. JulStol says:

    Test

  994. lisab says:

    hi julstol

  995. Cash Cow TM says:

    CRAP..

    5.6%…not .6

  996. Cash Cow TM says:

    regarding DACA….

    they probably will only allow certain dreamers to stay…

    lgbtq, felons, mentally ill, etc.

  997. lisab says:

    they probably will only allow certain dreamers to stay…

    lgbtq, felons, mentally ill, etc.
    ——————————–

    not russians …

  998. Bitterlaw says:

    Outside of Provincetown, they were edgy.

  999. lisab says:

    they played up every gay stereotype there was

  1000. Trump says:

    The moron, yesterday:

    “It would be sweet if the Trump-Schumer-Pelosi deal was decided by one vote in the Senate because McCain supported it.”

    Another deluded nonsensical dream by the stupid.

    Reality, today:

    “80-17: Senate votes to raise debt limit, approves hurricane relief”

    Trump basically short-circuited three weeks of kabuki, so that the senate can focus on more important matters.

    Ha ha ha ha

  1001. Trump says:

    Let this be a lesson to McConnell and Ryan.

    Lead, follow, or get out of the fuc king way.

  1002. Tina says:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/russian-meeting-notes-not-damaging-to-trump-family-242464

    No wonder the jebots were dumb. Latest on muh russian. Look at the headline.

  1003. Tina says:

    The notes include a spirited case on why Trump officials should overturn the act and why Republicans could support it. It indicates that the Russian officials made critical comments about Browder, but that Trump officials seemed to know little about the legislation or how it came about.

    The notes do not contain the word “donor,” as NBC News previously reported, but they appear to explain the background of a key player involved in the act, these people said, and this person’s previous donations to the Republican National Committee.

  1004. Wes says:

    Why are the Patriots losing at home in the season opener? They should be up double digits against the Chiefs.

  1005. NYCmike says:

    Any given Thursday?

  1006. NYCmike says:

    Chiefs are pretty good as well.

    I did not think the Patriots DEF would be so porous.

  1007. Wes says:

    MD must be furiously poking his voodoo doll of Andy Reid right now.

  1008. Wes says:

    I found this cute statement on a tweet:

    You might say the #Patriots just got tired of all that winning.

  1009. NYCmike says:

    MD’s wife took away his voodoo dolls after Hillary lost.

  1010. NYCmike says:

    janz,

    it was the libertarian candidate whom i personally bankrolled

  1011. NYCmike says:

    https://reason.com/blog/2017/09/07/devos-title-ix-example-cases-rape

    -Betsy Devos must be anti-woman, or maybe pro-rape./

    “CG” did not support her, by the way. He would rather of had someone with no respect for due process rights.

  1012. lisab says:

    Man who raped child in swimming pool because it was ‘a sexual emergency’ has jail sentence increased on appeal

    Defence lawyers for former Iraqi taxi driver had appealed the initial six-year sentence, saying their client did not know that the 10-year-old victim did not consent

  1013. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From The Hill

    “But the past 24 hours have laid bare Trump’s deep frustration with Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

    The White House has grown tired of Republican leaders rebuking or handcuffing the president instead of enacting his agenda, particularly after months of work on an ObamaCare repeal bill ended in a disastrous defeat.

    “Is he annoyed at Republican leadership? Yeah, I think he probably is,” said Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s budget director. “And believe me, as a Republican, so am I. As a citizen, I am, too. I was promised that they would have repealed and replaced ObamaCare by now. … To the extent that the President was annoyed by that is simply reflecting many of the people of this country.”

    Those frustrations seemed to come to a head in an Oval Office meeting on Wednesday where Trump overruled Ryan and McConnell in front of Pelosi and Schumer.”

    Maybe McConnell and Ryan will finally realize the train left the station without them.

  1014. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump’s twitter reads like a Chamber of Commerce website. It could even be described as dull now. Looks like the “silent coup” even occupied Trump’s twitter.

    However, Hillary has filled the void. She is busy blasting away at Sanders, Biden and any other Democrat who she feels blocked her coronation. It was all someone else’s fault; no admission whatsoever she was a lousy candidate. Perhaps see should tell us how confidential government E-mails ended up on Anthony Weiner’s laptop?

    Compared with the Democratic looney tunes, Trump is even beginning to look a bit presidential. Will see if it lasts.

  1015. NYCmike says:

    We don’t want Chamber of Commerce. They support Big Government.

    We need more regulations cut, an end to Obamacare, a reduction in corporate taxes…..

  1016. NYCmike says:

    Does anybody know if a clean disaster emergency bill could have been passed w/o the debt ceiling being raised?

  1017. Tina says:

    Bad week for the jebots

    President seems presidential.

    Fbi director stated no interfernce in muh russian

    Senators and mueller targeting russian dossier.

    Donnie jr., nothing there with his notes and testimony.

  1018. Jonesy says:

    Charlie Dent retiring in Penn.

  1019. CG says:

    I absolutely supported Betsy DeVos for Education Secretary and talked about it here. She was an original Jeb Bush supporter and most of her staff at the Education Department now also worked for Jeb Bush.

    Enjoy the day.

  1020. NYCmike says:

    Thanks for the correction. So, let’s look at yours and Trumps choices, and what you think about them:

    Gorsuch – Hillary would have picked someone just like that, McConnell gets the credit.
    Devos – Hillary would have picked someone just like that.

    No bills passed by legislature – Trump is destroying Republican Party.

  1021. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m sure that somebody will be offended by this but I think it was a good idea.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4864324/All-five-living-presidents-launch-One-America-appeal.html

  1022. NYCmike says:

    Who, pray tell, will be offended by that?

    Just make sure Bubba doesn’t skim any money off the top…….

  1023. NYCmike says:

    “Enjoy the day.”

    -Thanks.

    Same to you.

    I hope you save some souls today from the ravages of “Trumpism”.

  1024. Bitterlaw says:

    Who, pray tell, will be offended by that?

    How long have you been here?

  1025. jason says:

    WHICH IS WHY Cotton/Perdue are going so low….it is negotiable.”

    LOL

    A new low for trying to explain bad legislation.

    “It could be changed”.

    I love it here.

  1026. New York City says:

    The reason I support Trump’s 1 trillion infrastructure boondoggle is because while it starts high, its negotiable down to 900 billion.

  1027. NYCmike says:

    “Trump’s……boondoggle”

    -Trump will tweet that day, and a Republican Congress will be unable to stop the President from passing legislation on his own!

    He will even use his little know ventriloquist skills to vote for them, except for McCain, who will vote Nay so that he can stick it to Trump again.

  1028. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC’s logic – No matter what Trump proposes is liberal because the Congress might stop it.

  1029. NYCmike says:

    Robbie says Trump is incompetent, but Trump is able to control both the Executive and Legislative Branches merely by breathing air every morning.

    Isn’t that right, Bitterlaw?

    n/t