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Moore Leads Strange By 16% in AL, Schuette Strong in MI

We finally have another new poll in the US Senate in Alabama, this one coming from some polling outfit called Southeast Research, and it shows Roy Moore with a double-digit lead over Luther Strange in the Republican primary runoff.

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (Southeast)
Roy Moore 52%
Luther Strange (inc) 36%

This poll was done August 29-31 among 401 likely voters. Meanwhile, EPIC-MRA released a new poll for the gubernatorial race in Michigan to replace the outgoing Rick Snyder.

GOVERNOR – MICHIGAN (EPIC-MRA)
Bill Schuette (R) 37%
Gretchen Whitmer (D) 37%

Bill Schuette (R) 43%
Geoffrey Fieger (D) 33%

Nothing on the US Senate race, at least in this release. This poll was done August 27-September 1 among 600 likely voters. For comparison, EPIC-MRA’s final poll of the 2016 Presidential race released 5 days before the election showed Hillary Clinton beating Donald Trump by 4%. Donald Trump ended up winning in Michigan.

Posted by Dave at 9:53 am
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506 Responses to “Moore Leads Strange By 16% in AL, Schuette Strong in MI”

  1. NYCmike says:

    Frist!

    Trump voted for him as well!

    Trump is President, and rules Congress as well!

    Congress has NO POWER! The Constitution is DEAD!

  2. Jonesy says:

    Michigan looks good

  3. NYCmike says:

    A MI poll favoring a Republican.

    Should HHR accept it?

  4. NYCmike says:

    Let’s see if Bitterlaw, jason, “CG”, and Robbie will be able to convince more HHR posters that Trump is in charge of both the Executive and the Legislative Branches.

  5. NYCmike says:

    Trump has had those magic powers over Congress for a while, I guess.

    There have been several “real” Republican Presidents in our lifetime, who along with Congress, spent billion$$ and trillion$…….Trump must have sent up smoke signals before Twitter was invented.

  6. NYCmike says:

    A Republican Congres$ could not pass a $250 billion infrastructure bill NOW, because Trump told them NOT to.

  7. NYCmike says:

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/07/25/ag-bill-schuette-has-1-6-m-saved-possible-gop-governor-run/507756001/

    -How come that poll only is only for 1 Republican candidate? It looks like there are several getting ready to run.

  8. Bitterlaw says:

    If President Trump proposed making Planned Parenthood a Federal agency, NYC would immediately defend it on the basis that it was really the fault of Congress.

  9. Trump says:

    Has Trump proposed making planned parenthood a federal agency, stupid?

    Why don’t you stick with reality, instead of your demented hate?

  10. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, your beloved GOP leaders are out licking trump’s balls now.

    What a good as$kicking does for morale.

  11. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    You are really acting weird.

    If he proposed it, he would be wrong to do so.

    But if Congress has a say about what he wants to do, they are the ones who would write the legislation.

    If Congress does NOT send this theoretical bill making Planned Parenthood a Federal Agency, can Trump sign a non-existent bill into law?

  12. Jonesy says:

    10. LOL. I have much more respect for McConnell due to the Merrick Garland situation, than Ryan.

    To me, Ryan just seems like a puppet of big business and the Koch Brothers.

  13. NYCmike says:

    “If Congress does NOT send this theoretical bill making Planned Parenthood a Federal Agency, can Trump sign a non-existent bill into law?”

    -Bitterlaw? Anything on this?

  14. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – My point was not that Trump could do it. My point was that you would automatically defend it and claim that it was a non-ideological move.

  15. Trump says:

    The fact is simple. The GOP congress is being exposed as the lying sack of weasels they are, incompetent and clueless. 8 percent job approval.

    That is why you see the defenders whining, ” but Trump…!!!”

  16. Trump says:

    The moron cannot deal with reality, so he sets up straw men to channel his demanded hate.

  17. NYCmike says:

    But your point makes no sense.

    If he wants to act like a Democrat in picking cabinet members, or judges, I would blame him more than I would Congress, since that part of the job does NOT depend on Congress.

    It is similar to Bush 43 with NCLB and Medicare Part D. He was wrong to push those policies, but Congress should NOT have passed it without getting more concessions from the Democrats.

    Legislation is written by Congress. If they don’t send democrat-type legislation to Trump, then nothing happens. Trump can call for anything he wants regarding legislation, as could any President. If Congress doesn’t write what he wants, he won’t get it.

  18. NYCmike says:

    Trump would have signed a bill which REPEALED Obamacare. He would have signed the bill that the previous Congress sent to Obama which got vetoed.

    Somehow, despite all of the promises, and campaigns revolving around that one item, it didn’t get to Trump’s desk.

    Our “life-long conservative Republicans” talk a good game, but they wouldn’t allow a “life-long liberal Democrat” a chance to REPEAL Obamacare.

  19. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/las-vegas-police-union-michael-bennett-obvious-false-allegations-204334528.html

    -I like the Bennett Brothers. I think they play hard, and seem like good family men.

    BUT, since one of them made an accusation about police brutality, and the police force is asking for an investigation, I do believe an investigation should take place.

    Sunshine is the best disinfectant, and would be best for both sides to get this out in the open, UNLESS Bennett made up his side of the story.

  20. jason says:

    -Trump will tweet that day, and a Republican Congress will be unable to stop the President from passing legislation on his own!”

    Translation: I support Trump’s liberal ideas because the conservative US Congress might stop them from being implemented!

  21. jason says:

    Trump would have signed a bill which REPEALED Obamacare”

    Didn’t Trump promise to repeal and REPLACE Obamacare?

  22. jason says:

    In a nutshell, NYC is making the point that the CONSERVATIVE US Congress could stop Trump’s liberal initiatives.

    Get it?

  23. jason says:

    Of course, when NYC gets his way and all the RINOS are replaced by liberal Democrats, who is going to save us?

  24. jason says:

    I finally get to root for the Cheatriots against division rival Chiefs and look what happened.

  25. New York City says:

    The Patriots are not cheaters because the League will find out what they are up to and stop them.

  26. Robbie says:

    Yep. Unless some sort of unique event occurs, it seems “winter is coming” for the Republican Party next year.

    Manu Raju?
    @mkraju

    Rep. DENT, mod R who is retiring, told me he believes 2018 is “analogous” to the wave years of 1994, 2006 and 2010.

  27. NYCmike says:

    Who said a “CONSERVATIVE” US CONGRESS?

    I thought “REPUBLICANS” ran on repealing Obamacare.

    Repeal and Replace. Notice the first word.

    You can’t butter bread if you don’t have any bread.

    You can’t replace Obamacare until you Repeal Obamacare.

    And they claim I am the one who is confused…..

  28. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 8, 2017 at 12:03 pm
    In a nutshell, NYC is making the point that the CONSERVATIVE US Congress could stop Trump’s liberal initiatives.
    Get it?

    – Basically, NYCMike has been making the case lately that Trump is a mere bystander in the legislative process. Essentially, the presidency is a ceremonial position and Trump’s just there to sign things. It’s not his job to play a role in shaping legislation, unless it with Nancy and Chuck.

  29. NYCmike says:

    “Yep. Unless some sort of unique event occurs, it seems “winter is coming” for the Republican Party next year.”

    -jason, at least we can agree on this being a good omen for Republicans next year!

  30. Robbie says:

    In the Trump cult world, Trump is never responsible for anything. It’s always someone else’s fault.

  31. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    “Yep. Unless some sort of unique event occurs, it seems “winter is coming” for the Republican Party next year.”
    -jason, at least we can agree on this being a good omen for Republicans next year!

    – Orange Donnie has an approval rating around 38% nationally and the Republicans stand at about 38% in the generic ballot. As I’ve stated since last winter when Trump was torching his own approval rating, Republicans in 2018 will rise and fall based on Trump’s standing with the public.

    Orange Donnie is cutting deals with Chuck and Nancy (while screwing the saps who voted for him) because he’s culturally and ideologically in tune with them. On top of that, he probably realizes they may be the new Congressional leaders in 2019 so best to start establishing relationships with them.

  32. Robbie says:

    Carly Fiorina announced she will not run for Virginia Senate. This really doesn’t surprise me since the atmosphere is so toxic for Republicans. Tim Kaine can just about declare victory in that race.

    And despite what Wes has suggested in the past, Barbara Comstock should not give up her House to seat to get slaughtered in the Senate race. We’re going to need quality Republicans in 2019 and she is one of them.

  33. NYCmike says:

    “– Basically, NYCMike has been making the case lately that Trump is a mere bystander in the legislative process.”

    -Simple question:

    When Congress passed the bill which would have REPEALED Obamacare and it was sent to Obama, what was Obama’s role in crafting that legislation?

  34. NYCmike says:

    I’ll even make it multiple choice:

    Was it:

    A-Active Participant?

    or

    B-“mere bystander”?

  35. NYCmike says:

    Simple question:

    When Congress passed the bill which would have REPEALED Obamacare and it was sent to Obama, what was Obama’s role in crafting that legislation?

    Was it:

    A-Active Participant?

    or

    B-“mere bystander”?

  36. NYCmike says:

    Robbie?

    Anything?

    Bitterlaw? jason?

  37. Trump says:

    The fu cking morons in the GOP cannot pass a bill, and it’s trump’s fault.

    80-17. Trump got senate to pass debt bill.

    Where is mcconnell? How come he did not get the same for ryancare?

  38. Trump says:

    8 percent job approval.

    Why?

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Today is a great day. The New England Patriots are the only NFL team with a losing record.

  40. Trump says:

    When the fu ck tards cannot deliver on their promises, they will lose.

    8 percent job approval.

  41. Trump says:

    It’s not a mystery.

    8 percent job approval leads to ouster.

  42. Bitterlaw says:

    When Congress passed the bill which would have REPEALED Obamacare and it was sent to Obama, what was Obama’s role in crafting that legislation?

    Was it:

    A-Active Participant?

    or

    B-“mere bystander”?

    None of the above. The correct answer is:

    C – Opponent with veto power.

  43. Trump says:

    If anyone of you have a 8 percent at your job, you wouldn’t have a job.

  44. Bitterlaw says:

    If anyone of you have a 8 percent at your job, you wouldn’t have a job.

    NYC would still have a job because his dad owns the company.

    lisab would have a job because she is a teacher and even killing a student won’t drop you below 8%

  45. Trump says:

    Another of your inane strawman, idiot.

  46. NYCmike says:

    “NYC would still have a job because his dad owns the company.”

    -Get it right…..I own the company, along with my brothers.

    We are all slaves for our lender! 🙂

  47. NYCmike says:

    “what was Obama’s role in crafting that legislation?”

    -Key word:

    “crafting”

    Answer “C” has NOTHING to do with “crafting” a bill. The President has ZERO affect on Congress, if they don’t want him involved, as evidenced by the fact that Obama VETOED the bill that he had opposed from before it was written.

  48. lisab says:

    “Orange Donnie has an approval rating around 38% nationally”

    sooooooooooo … presumably that means the rcp average is 38%?

  49. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/while-you-arent-watching-trump-is-doing-a-great-job-of-nominating-lower-level-judges/article/2633742

    -And in news regarding a job which is held by the head of the Executive Branch of our federal government, more judges have been chosen by the “life-long Liberal Democrat”.

  50. Trump says:

    The underlying problem for the GOP congress is that their voters and their donors do not share the same same goals.

    The donors want unlimited cheap labor and outsourcing, their voters don’t.

    The lying crap weasels have to lie and cheat to survive.

    That’s the divide that made Trump the nominee.

    Now he is holding these mofos to account, and they are squealing like scalded pigs.

  51. Trump says:

    8 percent job approval, and will go lower if they don’t start producing results that their voters want.

  52. Trump says:

    These dingbats will be running in 2018 with nothing to show for total control of government.

    They are looking at devastation.

  53. lisab says:

    hint: the rcp mean average is not 38%, neither is the median or mode

  54. lisab says:

    although i suppose we can say that hillary

    just about won michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin

    by robbie’s logic

  55. lisab says:

    anybody else get excited hearing how florida is gonna get fked by hurricane irma, especially knowing it’s the rural donald j. trump #maga’t counties & trailer parks not built to withstand hurricanes that will be pummeled hardest? as always, i wish the liberal democrats there who knew better the best. get out! #murica, i hope you get flushed into the gulf of mexico. i’m literally giddy. go irma! *level* mar-a-fking-largo!

    professor scott gentile, hunter college

  56. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Odd that Obama never made Planned Parenthood a federal agency……oh wait, The President, in a stunning move, had ALL POWERS OF LEGISLATION removed by…..wait for it……the Founding Fathers!

  57. NYCmike says:

    should say **CRAFTING LEGISLATION**

  58. Trump says:

    Don’t confuse the idiot with the constitution. All he has is massive bout of trump derangement syndrome. TDS causes him to come up with all kinds of deranged strawman.

  59. Trump says:

    If he had two brain cells, which he does not, he would be devoting them to figure out how the GOP congress can get away from its 8 percent job approval rating.

  60. lisab says:

    i am just looking forward to the 199 million unskilled chinese workers to come here

    i like chinese food

  61. lisab says:

    remember if they want to come here to work, we will find a place for them

    and 200 million unskilled chinese laborers want to come

    but for some reason bitterlaw does not like 1 million of them, too russian i guess, sooooooo we are at 199 million

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    Call me at home, Trump. My name and town are known. Easy homework assignment.

  63. lisab says:

    remember it is wrong for us to impose rules on new immigrants, because our families were allowed to immigrate here

  64. lisab says:

    my sister evacuated from nc to tennesee because of irma

    i guess nc is potentially in the path too

  65. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 1:27 pm
    “– Basically, NYCMike has been making the case lately that Trump is a mere bystander in the legislative process.”
    -Simple question:
    When Congress passed the bill which would have REPEALED Obamacare and it was sent to Obama, what was Obama’s role in crafting that legislation?

    – For someone who follows politics so closely, I can’t believe how wrong you continually are.

    News flash, NYCMike. Trump at least pretends to be from the same party as the leaders in Congress. He is part of the process so take off your MAGA hat and get with the program. Nothing is going to move unless Trump gets involved. I wish that idiot could be excluded from the process, but he hasn’t been.

    Do you remember 2009 and 2010 when a Democrat controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House? I do. Barak Obama spent the entirety of 2009 and early 2010 promoting and selling his healthcare plan. He even held an address to Congress in September 2010 and spent months and months working with the leadership in the Democrat House/Senate to get a deal.

    So far, Trump has tweeted a lie that Obama wiretapped him, about Mika’s facelift, and attacked members of his own party.

    He continues to gush about his relationship with Chuck and Nancy though. YOU GOT PLAYED BY A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT!

  66. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 1:30 pm
    Robbie?
    Anything?
    Bitterlaw? jason?

    – In NYCMike’s distorted view of reality, nothing is ever the fault of lifelong Democrat Donald Trump. He can do no wrong. He could shoot NYCMike in the middle of 5th Avenue and NYCMike would tell us all why Trump was right to shoot him.

    On the other hand, had lifelong Republicans like Jeb, Rubio, Kasich, or Romney cut the same deals with Chuck and Nancy or been this inept at getting things accomplished, NYCMike would be outraged and calling them RINOs.

  67. Robbie says:

    I see four time married, fake conservative, Trump shill Rush Limbaugh evacuated his home due to Hurricane Irma after saying on Tuesday Irma was all media hype.

  68. NYCmike says:

    Ok, so we have established the fact that Robbie BELIEVES Presidents write legislation, NOT CONGRESS.

  69. NYCmike says:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/371463.php

    -“CG” approves! Maybe even Bitterlaw!

    “undocumented citizens”!

  70. Robbie says:

    Allahpundit
    @allahpundit
    Sep 7

    New rules:

    1. Trump’s will is the proper conservative position

    2. When that’s unclear, whatever makes liberals cry is the proper position

  71. NYCmike says:

    Of course, Presidents can choose to get involved, but Congress does NOT have to allow them.

    And, since Trump is, according to Robbie, incompetent, it puzzles me why McConnell/Ryan would want him to get involved, when they could write it themselves.

    In fact, they could copy-and-paste the same bill they sent to Obama.

    Easy peasy.

  72. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 2:35 pm
    Ok, so we have established the fact that Robbie BELIEVES Presidents write legislation, NOT CONGRESS.

    – Wrong as usual, but that’s what you do.

    If you don’t think a president plays a role in crafting legislation when the president’s party is also in control of the House and Senate, then I just can’t help you.

    Your guiding principle since January has been simple. “Must protect the Trump”. You’d never have cut actual Republicans this much slack. I guess you just have a soft spot for lifelong Democrats who have pulled the wool over your eyes.

  73. Robbie says:

    Tell me something, NYCMike. Why in the world would any Republican go out on a limb for Orange Donnie and take a tough vote on controversial legislation when it’s clear Orange Donnie (your man) doesn’t have their back and will sell them out at any moment? He cajoled the House into voting for healthcare in May only to say the bill had no heart a few weeks later.

    Unless Orange Donnie is willing to say specifically and in detail what he wants, none of the House members are going to walk the plank for a lifelong Democrat like Trump. I know you have a soft spot for Donnie, but you also don’t have to face the voters next year.

    The members of Congress want assurances Orange Donnie won’t stab then in the back, but he’s not competent enough or interested enough to get involved in the details. And because he’s unwilling to provide one ounce of leadership, all the different factions of the party go off in their separate directions.

    But what about the bills they passed in 2015? You’d have to be dense not to realize those bills were kabuki. Republicans knew they would be vetoed so they knew it didn’t really matter what was in them.

  74. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Please find a post where I ever referred to illegals as anything other than illegals or STFU. I would never refer to them as undocumented citizens. You know that but it does not fit your crusade.

  75. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    I have NEVER said a President CAN’T HELP.

    I have said Congress can REFUSE A PRESIDENT’S HELP.

    I AM RIGHT.

    ANY YOU KNOW IT.

    WHICH IS WHY YOU ARE SO UNHINGED.

  76. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    It is another step the media, along with Democrats, are taking to set the narrative about immigration policy.

    When you, along with many others, consistently undermine attempts to change the immigration system simply because a proposed bill in Congress (not written by Trump, but endorsed) wants a lower number of legal immigrants allowed, you play right into the hands of the Democrats, who refuse to budge on any immigration issues, simply because they can rely on Republicans to cave instead.

    So while you do not call them “undocumented citizens”, you also won’t say “Pass Cotton/Perdue” to at the least get Democrats to negotiate in good faith.

  77. Robbie says:

    NYCMike

    You are right about nothing and that’s why you have decided to defend Trump without any reservations. You side with deadender Senate candidates in primaries and now you side with a lifelong Democrat masquerading as a Republican.

    You, the Ted Cruz supporting purist conservative, have decided to protect and defend Trump no mater what and regardless of the fact he’s a lifelong Democrat.

    There’s going to be no healthcare reform, no tax reform, and no wall solely because of Trump. But we have gotten a clean debt ceiling increase and almost certainly a Democrat supported DACA amnesty bill. Wow, what a conservative agenda you’re supporting!

  78. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    I don’t like the deal Trump cut. I might have voted NAY. Maybe, not sure.

    By the way, How many votes did it get in the Senate?

  79. Robbie says:

    More evidence Mark Meadows, this doofus leader of the HFC, is a clown.

    Sam Levine?
    @srl

    Reps. Mark Meadows and Walter Jones say they signed anti-gerrymandering brief at SCOTUS by accident

  80. NYCmike says:

    “There’s going to be no healthcare reform, no tax reform, and no wall solely because of Trump. But we have gotten a clean debt ceiling increase and almost certainly a Democrat supported DACA amnesty bill. Wow, what a conservative agenda you’re supporting!”

    -Which bills will Trump write?

    Don’t the Republicans have a majority in both chambers of Congress?

    Couldn’t they pass their own legislation?

    Does Congress HAVE TO put up any legislation that someone writes? IF SO, how come Cotton/Perdue didn’t get their bill to a vote? Did they write it incorrectly? Maybe it didn’t WOBBLE enough?

  81. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Robbie,
    I don’t like the deal Trump cut. I might have voted NAY. Maybe, not sure.
    By the way, How many votes did it get in the Senate?

    – If Jeb, Rubio, Kasich, or Romney had cut this deal, you’d be squealing like a stuck pig they were RINO’s and this wouldn’t have happened had we just nominated a real conservative.

    Trump has emasculated the GOP so I don’t care how many votes the deal gets. Three Democrats, Trump, Pelosi, and Schumer, agreed to the bill.

    Trump is Ramsay Bolton and the Republicans are Reek. It’s embarrassing and it will become a disaster on election day 2018.

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    Why would I support a bill to cut LEGAL IMMIGRATION if I don’t want to cut LEGAL IMMIGRATION? How about a bill that reforms immigration law to tighten border security and address other issues but leave the number of LEGAL immigrants at the current level?

  83. NYCmike says:

    “solely because of Trump”
    “solely because of Obama”
    “solely because of “deadenders”
    “solely because of Pelosi/Reid”

  84. NYCmike says:

    “How about a bill that reforms immigration law to tighten border security and address other issues but leave the number of LEGAL immigrants at the current level?”

    -Cotton/Perdue would probably look to negotiate……IF they could get their bill to the floor for a vote.

  85. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    Which bills will Trump write?
    Don’t the Republicans have a majority in both chambers of Congress?
    Couldn’t they pass their own legislation?

    – Do you pay any attention, or do you just reflexively defend Trump?

    Trump is not a bystander in the process of crafting legislation. The presidency is not a ceremonial position either.

    The Congress, which is controlled by the same party as the president, is not going to act without getting direction and input from the president. It’s just that darn simple.

    And since your boy Orange Donnie has already sold out the House on their healthcare bill by calling it, tell me why a bunch of disparate factions of the GOP are going to find common ground and walk the plank on tough legislation just to please Trump when he’s already stabbed them in the back?

    It’s not going to happen. Get with reality.

  86. NYCmike says:

    “The Congress, which is controlled by the same party as the president, is not going to act without getting direction and input from the president.”

    -B*llsh*t.

    Congress, and its leaders, if they had a set, COULD do whatever they want regarding legislation.

    There is no law, rule, procedure, etc that says anything about listening to the President when it comes to legislation, even if they are in the same party.

    Stop your nonsense!

  87. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 3:15 pm
    “The Congress, which is controlled by the same party as the president, is not going to act without getting direction and input from the president.”
    -B*llsh*t.
    Congress, and its leaders, if they had a set, COULD do whatever they want regarding legislation.
    There is no law, rule, procedure, etc that says anything about listening to the President when it comes to legislation, even if they are in the same party.
    Stop your nonsense!

    – You genuinely have no concept of reality or how Congress works when one party controls the White House, House, and Senate.

    No wonder you voted for Trump and defend him as if he’s a Ted Cruz clone.

  88. NYCmike says:

    Of course, The President has the POWER TO VETO legislation, which is different than writing legislation……..but I think you know that.

  89. NYCmike says:

    “– You genuinely have no concept of reality or how Congress works when one party controls the White House, House, and Senate.”

    -You may be right.

    I had this CRAZY idea that Congress would pass the same legislation passed during the Obama Presidency but was VETOED, so that Trump could SIGN IT INTO LAW.

    For some odd reason, Congress did not do that.

    It is NOT like they campaigned on those issues!

  90. NYCmike says:

    “No wonder you voted for Trump”

    -Versus Hillary?

    Not a doubt.

  91. Trump says:

    Everyone knows how congress works, cretin Robbie.

    That is why it is at 8 percent approval rating.

    Not that the fuc tard will get that.

  92. Trump says:

    Supporting Trump is better than sucking Jeb!, cretin Robbie.

    Loser.

  93. Tgca says:

    It feels like Christmas here in South Florida. Almost every place is closed. 🙁

  94. Tgca says:

    I’m hunkered down and prepared for that nasty b*tch Irma.

    I got enough food, water, batteries, flashlights, and supplies to last a month.

    Got my hair all done so I look totally FABULOUS no matter what happens.

    Hope my doors and windows hold, at least they’re supposed to up to 150 mph winds.

    I’m 15 feet from the boat dock and water that goes to ocean so I expect surge but Cat 5 surge 2.5 miles from beach is expected to be 6 feet, and I’m 6 feet above sea level so hopefully not too much flooding.

    It’s the damn displaced alligators I worry about. I got two semi-automatic with 100+ bullets for them if they decide to invade my turf.

  95. Trump says:

    “Trump rips GOP for Hill failures” -Fox News

    “”GOP voters ok with Trump criticism of Republican Senate” – Rasmussen Reports

    Hence the 8 percent approval rating

    Payback is a bi&tch.

    Ryan: Trump’s debt ceiling decision was ‘perfectly reasonable and rational’

    As I said earlier, trump should keep slamming these idiots until morale improves.

  96. NYCmike says:

    Tgca,

    !!Don’t take no guff from that bitc…….oh, how are you, Irma? What a nice new weave you have! Would you like to calm down a bit, or are you just passing thru?

  97. jason says:

    You can’t replace Obamacare until you Repeal Obamacare. ”

    You are obviously the one confused. Nobody is going to repeal Obamacare unless there is a replacement.

    That’s why its repeal AND replace. It’s not repeal THEN replace.

  98. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    There would be a replacement…..the free market.

    OH THE HORROR!

  99. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie #32
    For the past few weeks, you have not changed your mantra that Trump’s national approval rating is “around 38%”.
    Actually in today’s RCP average, his approval rating is touching 40%.
    You are entitled to your opinions,as hysterical as they are, but not your own alternate facts.

  100. jason says:

    The fight between NYC and Wobbie could fill the Hindenburg with hot air.

  101. NYCmike says:

    AND, if they had done this first thing, back in January/February, you would have had 6 months so far of debate and votes over each individual item.

    Yes, that might have been politically dicey SHORT-TERM, but LONG-TERM it would be better for the country and for the Republican Party, in my humble opinion.*

    *Yes, in your humble opinion, it would be devastating. We differ on that theoretical point.

  102. NYCmike says:

    The Hindenburg already exploded……bad gas from an A-Hole.

  103. jason says:

    Cotton/Perdue would probably look to negotiate”

    Translation: Let’s propose legislation that won’t get 20 votes in the Senate in the hopes someone will change it later to something that could actually be approved.

    Suggestion: propose something that at least has a chance of getting approved.

  104. NYCmike says:

    jason STILL has NOT suggested any other reasons for why Republicans are against Cotton/Perdue, except for their desire to limit legal immigration to 1990 levels.

  105. NYCmike says:

    Which, I may add, they commented that those levels are due to today’s circumstances, so they designed legislation to be flexible according to what takes place in the future.

  106. Trump says:

    Like the Obamacare repeal when Obama was president?

  107. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    There is something not quite right with Sessions’ DOJ. After a quick three(3) week investigation, it once again exonerates Lois Lerner in the IRS scandal. Republican House members are furious and, IMHO, justifiably so.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/8/donald-trumps-doj-wont-pursue-charges-against-lois/

  108. CG says:

    If I start a GoFund me page to send NYCMike to a community college Government class in his area, would anyone else donate?

  109. jason says:

    here would be a replacement…..the free market.”

    LOL

    That water went under the bridge long ago when Obama got elected. Elections have consequences.

    Obamacare was approved and SCOTUS signed off on it. There is no going back from that. I have told you that for years. There is no going back to a pure market system anymore than you are going to revoke Medicare and Social Security. Once an entitlement of this magnitude is in place, its sayonara baby.

    The all or nothing approach will always get you nothing. So far its kept Obamacare intact.

    So the deadenders can continue to pretent Obamacare is going to be repealed without a replacement. Or they can get onboard with the only alternative available, which is to change Obamacare into something less government dependent, less cumbersome, more market friendly.

    Electing Obama killed the free market system healthcare. It’s too bad. But that fight is as over as gay marriage and gays in the military.

    We can salvage a better system or we can let the Democrats have total victory.

    Those are the real choices. The rest is empty rhetoric.

  110. Trump says:

    Now McCain, Collins and murkowski are deadenders?

  111. jason says:

    You don’t have to eat a whole egg to know its rotten.

    The curtailment of legal immigration is a non-starter.

    Everyone knows it won’t get 20 votes.

    But you can pretend that bill is going somewhere.

  112. Trump says:

    8 percent approval.

  113. jason says:

    Now McCain, Collins and murkowski are deadenders?”

    No, they won’t vote for repeal without seeing the replacement.

    I personally would have taken the chance, I think the pressure to get a replacement passed would be so overwhelming it would get done.

    But I don’t blame them for not trusting deadenders. I don’t either.

  114. Trump says:

    They had a repeal and replacement bill.

    The do-nothing idiots couldn’t get it done.

    8 percent job approval.

  115. NYCmike says:

    “If I start a GoFund me page to send NYCMike to a community college Government class in his area, would anyone else donate?”

    -Sounds good.

    Will the teacher instruct how legislation is made, and the proper functions of each branch of government in regard to making that legislation?

    Will it be the method outlined in the United States Constitution?

    Or the method outlined in the HHR By-Laws?

  116. Trump says:

    GOP loves individual mandate.

    See mitt Romney.

  117. jason says:

    8 percent approval.”

    Zzzz…. that rocks your boat, moron?

    Congress is never popular, and its certainly not unpopular because it won’t repeal Obamacare without a replacement, only about 15% of Americans think that would be a good idea.

    The idea that Congress is unpopular because it doesn’t approve deadender positions is so stupid only an idiot like Soccer Moron could believe it.

  118. NYCmike says:

    “The curtailment of legal immigration is a non-starter.”

    -Why?

    Did any Senators or Representatives run on making sure there is always unlimited legal immigration?

  119. CG says:

    If they were a good teacher they would explain those things to you and you would understand why your theories are wrong.

    Your thoughts on Bob Corker and the Iran Deal would clearly be challenged, but you would have to be willing to have an open mind and accept that you might learn new things.

  120. NYCmike says:

    Repealing Obamacare is NOW a “deadender” position?

    Republicans ran on it in 2016, and maintained a SOLID MAJORITY.

  121. NYCmike says:

    Back to Corker…….

    “CG” must also believe the President writes his own legislation.

  122. Trump says:

    8 percent.

    Because the as$holes can’t get anything done.

    I am loving it, moron.

  123. jason says:

    They had a repeal and replacement bill.”

    The one that McCain voted against was the “clean” repeal, to be replaced later.

    I think he was wrong, but I see his logic. Don’t trust deadenders.

  124. CG says:

    Unlimited legal immigration is of course an oxymoron. There is already a difficult standard that must be met for people to obtain entry into the U.S. legally.

    Maybe the process should be difficult, but it’s also been one of the reasons why so many people overstay visas and become illegal immigrants and why so many have illegally crossed the border instead of trying to go through the process.

    Virtually no mainstream politician in America has run on trying to place further restrictions on legal immigration since the late 1800s/early 1900s, when they wanted to keep the Irish and Italians out.

  125. NYCmike says:

    Does Congress have to listen to the President, any President, even one from his own party, when crafting legislation?

    YES?

    Or

    NO?

  126. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In the past, when almost all people had land lines, polling was fairly straight-forward, and more reliable. Now most people don’t have land lines, and the majority with cell phones often have blocking mechanisms for unwanted or unknown callers.

    To try and get around this polling companies use all sorts of mathematical models, as well as demographic sorting to attempt to get fair representative samples.

    The results have been hit and miss, to put it mildly. Here is how Gallup does its tracking polls:

    “Yes, Gallup weights samples to correct for unequal selection probability, nonresponse, and double coverage of landline and cellphone users in the two sampling frames. Gallup also weights its final samples to match the U.S. population according to gender, age, race, Hispanic ethnicity, education, region, population density, and phone status (cellphone only, landline only, both, and cellphone mostly). Demographic weighting targets for the U.S. and states are based on the most recent Current Population Survey figures for the aged 18 and older U.S. population, while weighting targets for metropolitan areas and congressional districts are based on Nielsen Claritas statistics.”

    At best, polls have become educated guesses, and last year they were badly off. Rasmussen did well last year, but in the past has done not so good.

  127. NYCmike says:

    “Don’t trust deadenders.”

    -“deadenders” = 49 Senators who voted YAY, as well as the Vice President.

    Barely a FRINGE of the party……

  128. jason says:

    Republicans ran on it in 2016, and maintained a SOLID MAJORITY.”

    No, they ran on Repeal AND Replace.

    Same as Trump.

    Repeal AND replace.

    The deadenders might have talked themselves into the idea they were going to have repeal without replacement, that is why we have Obamacare intact.

  129. NYCmike says:

    “Does Congress have to listen to the President, any President, even one from his own party, when crafting legislation?”

    Yes?

    NO?

    PRESENT?

  130. Trump says:

    Forget repeal Obamacare or repeal and replace Obamacare.

    The backstabbing grandstander can pt get anything, literally ANYTHING, done.

    8 percent is the result.

  131. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    Trump would have signed ANYTHING.

    He NEVER received a bill.

    How is it then possible to blame Trump, as Robbie and “CG” do?

  132. jason says:

    -“deadenders” = 49 Senators who voted YAY, as well as the Vice President.”

    Zzzzz.. I said I would have voted for it myself I didn’t call everyone who voted for it a deadender.

    I already said I thought McCain was wrong.

    GFY.

  133. CG says:

    Technically, they don’t have to, but those who oppose the President of their party, (depending on the political makeup of their district) tend to then lose reelection, often in primaries.

    So, I know you might like to see anyone who would try to stand up to Donald Trump lose, but they actually want to keep their jobs. Call them selfish if you wish, but that’s how they are going to behave.

    They are trying to wait Trump out, but for now, they are scared of him and his Twitter and his unblinking, completely in-lockstep internet soldiers like you.

  134. Trump says:

    The losers started with repeal and replace.

    Couldn’t get that done either.

    7 years of backstabbing

    8 percent approval.

    Enjoy.

  135. NYCmike says:

    ““Does Congress have to listen to the President, any President, even one from his own party, when crafting legislation?””

    -Maybe Bitterlaw can add another answer for the HHR people who won’t answer this pretty easy question?

    Or do we need SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK?

  136. jason says:

    He NEVER received a bill”

    There hasn’t been a bill that can get 50 votes, which necessarily will need the approval of the deadenders and the moderates, or at least 50 out of 52.

    Blaming the leadership for that is stupid. Blame the individual senators.

    The problem is that some people are happy with going for all or nothing and getting nothing.

    Until that changes, Obamacare will stay.

  137. NYCmike says:

    “Technically, they don’t have to, but those who oppose the President of their party,”

    -What opposition?

    Trump would have signed anything they sent him January thru August.

  138. CG says:

    There would have been a replacement bill that would have passed Congress (flawed or not)if the Freedom Caucus would have supported it. They did not, so the numbers are not there, because Trump cannot get Democrats to do anything he wants, they only get him to do what they want (such as this week on the Schumer-Pelosi-Trump bill)

    So NYC, again, you are both confused and contradictory. The people on the right in the House GOP scuttled a bill, that technically Trump was for. So they did “oppose” him, and yet you cannot make up your mind if you like them for that or not.

    The bottom line is that they are the reason Obamacare is in place.

  139. NYCmike says:

    I love the equivocation – “Technically”

    Spoken like a true “Republican”.

  140. Wes says:

    I see Robbie is declaring Gotterdammerung is on the way for the GOP. That may or may not be. It is noteworthy, however, Robbie was caterwauling about how bad a position Mitch McConnell was in at this point in 2013. He was slso the voice of doom last cycle, declaring literally every Republican running for Senate to be destined for defeat.

    Thus, I’m hesitant to credit Robbie with any accurate foreknowledge of the outcome of next year’s elections–even if Charlie Dent agrees with him.

  141. jason says:

    oes Congress have to listen to the President, any President, even one from his own party, when crafting legislation?””

    Great non-sequitur and completely irrelevant.

    But I see we are back its ok if Trump is a liberal because Congress might save us.

  142. NYCmike says:

    “The people on the right in the House GOP scuttled a bill, that technically Trump was for.”

    -Sorry, dude, the House passed a bill, the only one that came to a vote.

  143. Wes says:

    So how many attempts to repeal znd replace Obamacare have Christine O’Donnell, Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock, and Aaron Day voted on in the Senate, Mikey?

  144. Trump says:

    Obamacare is in place because of mccain.

    Obamacare is the birth child of mitt Romney.

    The last two GOP nominees.

  145. CG says:

    They can’t send anything to him because the votes are not there.

    Perhaps if Republicans would have won more seats in the last election, but they didn’t.

    So, as long as the Freedom Caucus/Tea Party is stubborn, you can’t get him a bill without the Democrats, and the Democrats aren’t going to do it, because they prefer Trump over a barrel or forcing him to bend to their will, which they now know can happen.

    Come December, when they have to vote on the Debt Ceiling again, DJT, and all those in the Congressional GOP who are loyal to him are now their b**ch.

  146. NYCmike says:

    I have not mentioned anything about Trump’s ideology at all.

    I just want to get a question answered:

    Does the President, in any way, have POWER to make CONGRESS write a bill, or NOT write a bill?

    Yes?

    or

    NO?

  147. jason says:

    Wobbie declared Mitch McConnell in deep trouble for a whole year before he won by 15. This despite his opponent was a hare brained idiot (who he deemed formidable).

    Take his predictions with a grain of salt.

  148. CG says:

    The House passed a bill that the Senate could not pass because you need 60 votes in the Senate and Republicans do not have close to that, in part because you wanted to nominate candidates in various states to lose in purpose in order to “send a message.”

    By the way, Trump was calling the bills “mean.” Was he right or wrong? Did that help or hurt?

    Do you see how a Congressman or a Senator in a district or state that Trump lost or barely won is going to vote for something only to have their Democrat opponent run ads of Trump himself calling their vote “mean?”

  149. NYCmike says:

    A bill got thru Congress. It was VETOED by Obama.

    That same bill should be able to get thru this Congress.

    It would have been signed by Trump.

    Still waiting to vote on that bill……

  150. NYCmike says:

    Technically, still have NOT answered the question……

  151. CG says:

    Everything NYC is saying would be technically true if only there was not a thing called “elections” and the natural reflex of the breed of humans called politicians not to want to lose elections.

  152. NYCmike says:

    “Does the President, in any way, have POWER to make CONGRESS write a bill, or NOT write a bill?”

  153. Trump says:

    Why would the same bill pass now?

    They were lying then

  154. CG says:

    A replacement bill never got thru Congress when Obama was President.

    If you want to say that now, in retrospect, those Republicans were wrong to vote for repeal only, just as a symbolic measure to express their dislike of Obama, then fine, go ahead and say that.

  155. jason says:

    Does the President, in any way, have POWER to make CONGRESS write a bill, or NOT write a bill?”

    Huh, maybe I can come up with a question almost as irrelevant to anything we are discussing here.

    Does an iceberg in the Antartic have the POWER to make a polar bear crap in Artic?

    Again, the purpose of this question is a moronic attempt to state that even if Trump proposes liberal initiatives, Congress doesn’t have to go along.

    It ignores the 800 lb gorilla in the room, why is Trump proposing trillion dollar boondoggles/

  156. Trump says:

    Trump ran on trillion dollar infrastructure spending.

    He won. That is why he will propose trillion dollar spending.

  157. lisab says:

    Got my hair all done so I look totally FABULOUS no matter what happens
    ——————————–

    did you get highlights?

  158. Trump says:

    It will be interesting to see who besides the freedom caucus will oppose the trillion dollar infrastructure spending.

  159. jason says:

    just as a symbolic measure to express their dislike of Obama”

    Really stupid comment. To suggest opposition to Obamacare was about Obama is supreme ignorance.

    The dislike was of an unjustified government intervention in 1/6 th of the economy executed by means of 3000 pages of bureaucratic nonsense, designed not to improve health care, but to dumb down the HC of the 85% of Americans who were satisfied with their HC under the excuse of improving it for the other 15%.

  160. lisab says:

    The fight between NYC and Wobbie could fill the Hindenburg with hot air.
    ———————————

    well don’t stop it

    robbie is my afternoon entertainment

  161. jason says:

    He won. That is why he will propose trillion dollar spending.”

    No worries.

    According to NYC, the conservative US congress will save us from Trump.

  162. CG says:

    Schumer and Pelosi are the most powerful people in Washington now (yes, ability to seat the judiciary aside).

    The Republican majority in Congress is by and large completely owned by Trump now, and after the deal he cut with them, Schumer and Pelosi now effectively own Trump. As long as they keep their caucuses firm, there is nothing that Trump can get that he might theoretically want, and they know that Trump just wants to call himself a winner and sign pieces of paper, so he will sign what they want, just so he looks good.

    It is up to Republicans in Congress to decide whether they want to stand up to Trump or not. Someone like Jeff Flake, who has a staunchly conservative record and who voted to repeal and replace Obamacare and everything else, is a test case. Trump and his fans want him gone. Not because he is isn’t a conservative, but because he has expressed disapproval of Trump.

    So we will not know if the GOP in Congress will break with Trump or not for a while I suppose. It may take the results of the 2018 midterms to see. Eventually, a divorce will happen, and if Trump is still President in 2020 and wishes to seek another term, there is a very good chance he does so as an Independent. And NYCMike will be all for him.

  163. CG says:

    161. It’s the same thing. Opposition to Obama and Obamacare.

  164. jason says:

    well don’t stop it”

    Heavens no…

    I never said I had a life. I need an alternative to Alaska Bush People.

  165. CG says:

    Opposition to Obamacare on the merits is implied. They voted their principle against it, but since it had no chance of actually being repealed as long as he was President, those were symbolic votes.

  166. jason says:

    It’s the same thing. Opposition to Obama and Obamacare.”

    Wow, that is really stupid.

    It’s not the same thing at all.

    That’s like saying if Obama were not a committed socialist who had actually been willing to compromise more people would not have supported his policies.

    I didn’t like Obama, but I could have supported a HC bill that wasn’t a piece of crap like Obamacare.

    If Obama had proposed a system only to INSURE people who did not have insurance, even if it involved subsidies, I would have supported it.

    But of course he had no interest in compromising, he knew he could buy 60 votes for his boondoggle.

  167. jason says:

    those were symbolic votes.”

    Hey, NYC loves symbolic votes, don’t hurt his feelings.

  168. CG says:

    You are not at all understanding what I was saying. It was a criticism of Obamacare and Obama. Since Obama is the person responsible for Obamacare, I think he can be mentioned.

  169. CG says:

    Maybe 167 clarified it

  170. jason says:

    Obamacare was not designed as a system to address the fact 15% of the population was uninsured.

    It was designed as a “how can we use the uninsured problem as an excuse to destroy the private HC system in America” and “what can we get passed towards that end”. The goal was the public option and single payer.

    The only reason we didn’t get the “public option” which would have killed the private insurance industry, was because of Democratic deadenders like Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson and Lieberman didn’t go for it.

    Obamacare supporters like to say that Obamacare was a compromise between Rs and Ds. It wasn’t. It was a compromise between the Marxists and the “moderates” within the Dem party.

    Obama took what he could get. He knew it was better than nothing. Republicans don’t seem to have learned that lesson.

  171. jason says:

    170. Ok. If you are not saying opposition to Obama is the same as opposition to Obamacare I will take your word for it.

  172. lisab says:

    Virtually no mainstream politician in America has run on trying to place further restrictions on legal immigration since the late 1800s/early 1900s,
    ——————————–

    actually immigration was almost shut down completely in 1933 and again in 1952

  173. CG says:

    No, I wasn’t saying that. Despite what you might think, I am not a liberal.

  174. New York City says:

    Since Obama is the person responsible for Obamacare,”

    Obama can’t be responsible for Obamacare, because the WH has absolutely no say on what Congress does.

  175. lisab says:

    It will be interesting to see who besides the freedom caucus will oppose the trillion dollar infrastructure spending.

    ———————————

    it will be needed in texas and florida

  176. jason says:

    “Despite what you might think, I am not a liberal.”

    Despite what you might think, I don’t follow the practice of the deadenders here in calling anyone who is not a deadender a liberal.

  177. lisab says:

    Despite what you might think, I am not a liberal.
    ——————————-

    liberal? no …

  178. lisab says:

    chris christie got a tv deal

    food network

  179. jason says:

    it will be needed in texas and florida”

    Actually, no, it won’t.

    First, I do not know how much existing public infrastructure was actually destroyed and that cannot be repaired with existing funding.

    Second the infrastructure Trump is talking about should be done through partnerships with the private sector, where their investment will be repaid through tolls, user fees, concessions, etc.

    Let’s get real here, the trillion dollar “infrastructure” bill if passed will just be pork to be divvied up and squandered.

  180. messy says:

    This is why congress is extremely unpopular, but usually keeps on getting the same jerks re-elected:

    People like THEIR congresscritters and senators. They don’t like any of the other states’ because they represent the interests of the other states and not theirs’ alone.

    Only one guy/gal represents the Iowa 3rd CD.

  181. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    142. “Thus, I’m hesitant to credit Robbie with any accurate foreknowledge of the outcome of next year’s elections.”

    That is the understatement of the year. He is concern trolling the board. However his tweets of doom last November as election night began were hilarious. He is worth having around for those type of moments.

  182. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    182. “Only one guy/gal represents the Iowa 3rd CD.”

    That sounds discriminatory against dissociative identity disordered people. It is their constitutional right to have two different persons residing in the same body. Both need a safe space, to hide against this sort of micro-aggression.

  183. Tgca says:

    181

    I want some of the Trump infrastructure money to rebuild my FL home. I was thinking of new floors anyway so I look forward to the freebies you guys will be paying for. It’s like an Obama phone, only much more expensive. Thanks all. I’ll appreciate rebuilding with guv’t handouts.

  184. Tina says:

    Stay safe tgca. Hope you are ok.

  185. Tina says:

    Any muh russian news?

  186. Cash Cow TM says:

    Am with Walt in the asphalt jungle of wash. D.c. to see The Capitol Steps Comedy show.

    Believe it or not, I am the only farm animal in the audienc.

    Hope the show cheers the big guy up some.

  187. NYCmike says:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/more-mortal/201709/taking-risks-move-the-culture-forward

    -Could you imagine a left-leaning site writing the following about free markets, home-schooling, etc :

    “Just a final word: one risk is that Quillette will become its own little echochamber. I wish we had more left-leaning writers, particularly writing on issues of class and how scarcity of opportunities and resources may be driving political polarization. I’d love to publish more articles on animal rights, effective altruism and progressive policies that would help young parents at work (I’m a young parent).”

  188. jason says:

    I want some of the Trump infrastructure money to rebuild my FL home.”

    F–k off, man.

    The Amish have been ignored long enough. No more money for coastal fatcat bloodsucking layabout parasites.

    We want buggy only highways connecting all Amish centers in PA, OH, VA, MI, IL, IN etc. And rest stops with non-electrical cider and scrapple vending machines.

  189. Bitterlaw says:

    I am going to try to short cut the next 30 questions from NYC.

    1. The President does not have the power to introduce legislation.

    2. The President can not vote on legislation.

    3. The Vice-President can vote on ties in the Senate.

    4. The President can sign or veto legislation.

    5. If the President wants legislation introduced into Congress, he can call up somebody in Congress and San y “Hey. I kinda like this bill. Do me a favor and introduce it. Thanks.”

    6. If the President does not like legislation, he can say, “F off. I’m not going to sign it so if you feel like passing it, GFY.”

  190. Bitterlaw says:

    Good luck and stay FABULOUS, Tgca!

  191. Bitterlaw says:

    Using NYC’s logic:

    Obama had nothing to do with Obamacare.

    Reagan had nothing to do with tax cuts or increased military spending.

    FDR had nothing to do with the New Deal.

  192. jason says:

    Maybe NYC can start using the handle Captain Obvious.

  193. Bronxie says:

    If a tree falls in the forest, blame Congress. It is not Trump’s fault.

  194. Cash Cow TM says:

    We have been in Washington D.C. for almost four hours now (dinner a d a show)

    We have ot been robbed or asaulted yet.

  195. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.

  196. Bitterlaw says:

    Be careful. I heard about some pizza place in DC that sells babies. It was on the internet so I know it is true.

  197. JulStol says:

    and it’s…

  198. lisab says:

    Thanks all. I’ll appreciate rebuilding with guv’t handouts.
    ——————-

    as long as it’s fabulous

  199. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    That is wrong. Those Presidents DID have something to do with those policy proposals. I never questioned that the President CAN influence legislation.

    You know, very clearly, my argument is that Congress does Not have to listen to the President, and can pass what they want, at which point the President, constitutionally, becomes an active participant in the process, and either signs the bill into law or vetoes it.

  200. NYCmike says:

    And regarding Trump, any legislation passed in the earlier part of this year by a Republican Congress probably would have been signed into law.

    I can’t say that now.

  201. Trump says:

    The question you morons can’t answer.

    Why would Trump deal with the losers who can’t delver jack sh&it?

  202. lisab says:

    not true nyc

    trump would never have repealed obamacare, lowered taxes, or built a wall on the border

    that is why the gop congress did not send him those bills

  203. Trump says:

    Republican congress cannot govern.

    Trump turned to chuck and Nancy, and the result is 87-20 in Senate and 316-90 in the House.

  204. Trump says:

    That’s how he will get tax reform and trillion dollar infrastructure.

  205. NYCmike says:

    https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/10-questions-trump-every-dem-must-answer-about-dream-amnesty

    -Bitterlaw,

    See if this makes any sense to you. #4 mentions Cotton/Perdue, and how DACA/chain migration go hand in hand with the refusal to pass a bill like Cotton/Perdue.

    I hope you also notice that there is one person who sold out Republican voters (and the country) on DACA, while also being one of the only Republicans who stood up publicly to promote the bill, Cotton/Perdue, which would try to do something about it.

  206. NYCmike says:

    #5 talks directly to “CG”, the most compassionate man on Earth:

    “The next wave of dreamers: The “DACA” amnesty applied only to those brought here as children before 2007. Thus, it’s mainly for those who are currently in their 20s and 30s. Once we agree that there is a blanket entitlement for amnesty for anyone brought here as a kid, with the fiscal and cultural burden borne by Americans (by no fault of their own), what about the next generation of “dreamers?” The minute this amnesty passes, there will be a clamor to amnesty those who are even younger — roughly one to twelve years of age. They will have an even more sympathetic argument for amnesty. Ironically, we have been flooded with hundreds of thousands of Central Americans precisely because of DACA amnesty, yet they are not part of the program! What happens to them? And what happens to the new wave spawned by that amnesty? Don’t kid yourselves: This is not a limited amnesty. Once you telegraph the message that as soon as someone successfully comes here illegally and puts down roots, we will not have the stomach to deport them, why would that change during the next cycle? “

  207. Robbie says:

    The parallels between 2006 and 2018 are becoming more and more apparent.

    We have an unpopular president, unified government control that has failed to produce legislative victories, and now a wave of House retirements. Reichart and Dent gave up earlier this week and now Fred Upton looks like he’s ready to ride off into the sunset.

    On top of that, Trump is picking fights with Republicans all across the country while cuddling with Chuck and Nancy. Wow, what a great president. I can totally understand why the Tea Party conservative purists here are so infatuated with a lifelong Democrat like Trump.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/us/politics/trump-rattles-republicans-ahead-of-midterm-elections.html

  208. NYCmike says:

    Trump did reverse himself on this (so far), and it is a TERRIBLE decision.

    BUT, when he was promoting Cotton/Perdue, did any other Republicans stand up with him?

    On the contrary, Rubio immediately mimicked Robbie, jason, and Bitterlaw and declared the law DOA, with little in the way of reasons other than boilerplate compassion b*llsh*t.

  209. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Don’t misinterpret the disgust for Congressional Republicans as infatuation with Trump.

    YOU ARE WRONG.

    Congress was always supposed to be the check on Trump’s 54% side.

    Unfortunately, many Congressional Republicans agree with at least 50% of that 54% (DACA, debt ceilings, large parts of Obamacare).

  210. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 8, 2017 at 4:46 pm
    Wobbie declared Mitch McConnell in deep trouble for a whole year before he won by 15. This despite his opponent was a hare brained idiot (who he deemed formidable).

    Take his predictions with a grain of salt.

    – Your ability to lie about my views never ceases to amaze me.

    I said repeatedly throughout 2014 McConnell would win and win by at least 53-47. And since I read the local news in Kentucky I can tell you for the 100th time McConnell’s own polling showed the race at just 4-6 point with 10 days to go. Like all of the other races in 2014, they broke hard for Republicans in the last week.

  211. NYCmike says:

    “lifelong Democrat like Trump.”

    -Still keeps repeating this nonsense…..the one Republican who pushed Cotton/Perdue besides the sponsors……

  212. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 4:36 pm
    “Does Congress have to listen to the President, any President, even one from his own party, when crafting legislation?”

    Yes?

    NO?

    PRESENT?

    – Ever heard of this thing called a veto?

  213. NYCmike says:

    Oh, b*llsh*t!

    jason was right on with the McConnell thing.

    You were hyperventilating all year about him, while more reasonable people thought it might be a small challenge.

  214. NYCmike says:

    LOL!

    “– Ever heard of this thing called a veto?”

    The question was:

    “…….when crafting legislation?”.

    The veto comes AFTER the bill has been crafted, voted on and passed to the President.

  215. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie lies his pants off, and thinks nobody will remember.

    Brokered convention, Jeb, 374 EVs are all available, as$wipe.

  216. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 8, 2017 at 4:43 pm
    I see Robbie is declaring Gotterdammerung is on the way for the GOP. That may or may not be. It is noteworthy, however, Robbie was caterwauling about how bad a position Mitch McConnell was in at this point in 2013. He was slso the voice of doom last cycle, declaring literally every Republican running for Senate to be destined for defeat.

    Thus, I’m hesitant to credit Robbie with any accurate foreknowledge of the outcome of next year’s elections–even if Charlie Dent agrees with him.

    – I see you’ve chosen to misrepresent my view on McConnell in 2014. Firstly, I did not post on this forum in 2013 at all after January. I returned in February 2014 after a long hiatus after the 2012 election.

    As for McConnell, I always wrote he would win by at least 53-47 and local news here noted his own polling showed him ahead by 4-6 points with 10 days to go. Like all of the races in 2014, they all broke hard towards the GOP in the last week.

    If you can make a case that Republicans are in good position for next year, I’m all ears. But Trump won’t have crooked Hillary, an equally awful candidate, to play off of as he did in 2016. In 2018, the election, just all midterms are, will be a referendum on Trump. Maybe he’s pulls a rabbit out of his hat, but sidling up to Chuck and Nancy ain’t the way to energize the Republicans.

  217. Bitterlaw says:

    Since I have repeatedly opposed amnesty, NYC can direct his comment elsewhere.

  218. Trump says:

    Ask the cretin what time he slunk off on November 8.

    He was all primed with his venom, till the votes started coming in.

  219. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 8, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    According to NYC, the conservative US congress will save us from Trump.

    – No. In NYCMike’s world, conservative is defined as whatever Trump does.

  220. Trump says:

    2018 will be a referendum on congress, as$wipe Robbie.

    That’s who will be on the ballot.

    No wonder you are wuch a loser, simple logic escapes you.

  221. Trump says:

    Trump will energize his voters for who he wants, like kid rock and josh Healy

    He will energize his voters against losers like heller and flake.

  222. Trump says:

    Hawley.

  223. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 8, 2017 at 5:40 pm
    142. “Thus, I’m hesitant to credit Robbie with any accurate foreknowledge of the outcome of next year’s elections.”

    That is the understatement of the year. He is concern trolling the board. However his tweets of doom last November as election night began were hilarious. He is worth having around for those type of moments.

    – You never have explained to me how Rasmussen, a robo-pollster, can conduct a credible national poll when robo-polling is illegal in a certain number of states.

  224. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is the only poster who actually applied for and earned his American citizenship. The rest of us lucked into it.

  225. Trump says:

    How do you know, moron?

  226. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 8, 2017 at 10:33 pm
    “lifelong Democrat like Trump.”

    -Still keeps repeating this nonsense…..the one Republican who pushed Cotton/Perdue besides the sponsors……

    – Trump’s a lifelong Democrat. I have no idea why that is so difficult for you to accept.

    And repeatedly mention the Cotton/Perdue immigration isn’t going to change the fact it’s got no chance on passage.

  227. Trump says:

    Just like Obamacare repeal?

  228. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 8, 2017 at 10:42 pm
    2018 will be a referendum on congress, as$wipe Robbie.

    That’s who will be on the ballot.

    No wonder you are wuch a loser, simple logic escapes you.

    – What was 2006 a referendum on, soccer idiot? GWB.

    What was 2010 a referendum on, soccer idiot? Obama.

    What was 2014 a referendum on, soccer idiot? Obama.

    What will 2018 be a referendum on, soccer idiot? Trump.

  229. Trump says:

    How is trump a lifelong democrat, as$wipe?

    Do you even know what lifelong means?

  230. Trump says:

    Cretin, trump is not on the ballot in 2016.

    You can look it up.

    Fuc ked up morons like you are the reason the GOP congress has 8 percent job approval rating.

  231. Robbie says:

    In other news, Eric Bolling was shown the door at FoxNews and his show “The Specialists” was cancelled immediately.

  232. Trump says:

    All you have is a massive emotional hurt that trump fu ck Ed up your favorite candidate.

    And, God willing, he will fu ck more of them.

  233. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 8, 2017 at 10:52 pm
    Cretin, trump is not on the ballot in 2016.

    – Bush wasn’t on the ballot in 2006 and the election was all about him.

    Obama wasn’t on the ballot in 2010 or 2014 and the election was all about him.

    In 2018, Trump, a narcissist, will make sure the election is all about him.

  234. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru predicted Trump would lose the election AND the GOP would lose Congress. Now he acts like he knows the mood of the country.

  235. Trump says:

    Obama was on the ballot in 2012, and he won.

    Why did you ignore that, cretin Robbie?

  236. Trump says:

    The two as$wipe scumbags are reinforcing each other’s massive heartache.

    8 percent job approval, scumbags.

  237. Trump says:

    2012 was all about Obama, and he won.

    Actual ballot, as$wipe.

  238. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    September 8, 2017 at 10:54 pm
    Obama was on the ballot in 2012, and he won.

    Why did you ignore that, cretin Robbie?

    – I’m talking about midterm elections. They are always referendums on the incumbent presidents.

  239. Trump says:

    Just because you say so does not make it do, cretin ss$wipe.

    Elections are about who is on the ballot, cretin.

    No wonder you get you ass handed to you every time.

  240. Trump says:

    Obama was on the ballot in 2012, he raised money, he campaigned , and he won.

    That’s how elections work, scumbag Robbie.

  241. Trump says:

    It is with supporters like you that Jeb fuc ked, pondscium.

    And supporters like you will decimate the GOP.

  242. NYCmike says:

    “Since I have repeatedly opposed amnesty, NYC can direct his comment elsewhere.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    Of course you oppose amnesty. Most here do.

    The problem is HOW to get Democrats to make some concessions so that amnesty does NOT happen.

    That link lays out how anything less than a very strict, conservative-oriented immigration bill will always be attacked and then watered down by Congress.

  243. Trump says:

    When voters realized that stupid scum like you were supporting Jeb, they switched to Trump

  244. NYCmike says:

    Not sure why I argue…..their are more representatives in Congress who are like Robbie, willing to deal instead of fighting tooth and nail for the most conservative legislation…that is why the government simply keeps growing larger, along with our unfunded liabilities.

  245. Tina says:

    Trump hits 46 percent in rasmussen.

    He is mocing up.

  246. Tina says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    September 8, 2017 at 10:45 pm
    Jason is the only poster who actually applied for and earned his American citizenship. The rest of us lucked into it.

    Really?

  247. Tina says:

    NBC News @NBCNews
    Irma locked and loaded towards several Trump properties (link: http://nbcnews.to/2xcOo4O) nbcnews.to/2xcOo4O

    Theynare following cnns lead into mediocrity.

  248. lisab says:

    Trump’s a lifelong Democrat. I have no idea why that is so difficult for you to accept.

    —————————–

    well, since he is still alive AND currently a registered republican

    your statement is false

    and the best part is …

    he is still the elected president even though you don’t llike him

  249. lisab says:

    i thought cory melting down on election day was satisfying

    and of course md having to eat crow was good

    but they were only a few hours or in md’s case, only one post

    robbie melting down every day is better than anyone could have predicted

  250. Trump says:

    Scumbags who can’t understand the basic idea of “lifelong”.

    Plumbing the depths of sub-cretinism.

  251. Trump says:

    That’s the best part of the Trump presidency.

    Daily meltdown of the losers.

    Glorious.

  252. lisab says:

    That’s the best part of the Trump presidency.

    Daily meltdown of the losers.
    ———————————

    it really is …

    i voted for jill stein … and the best part BY FAR is not that trump won … i don’t really like him as a person — except for how he treats his children, which i give him credit for

    it is that robbie and people like him …

    lost

    i believe the term is: PWNED!!!!!

  253. Tina says:

    The Hill @thehill
    Clinton in new book: Matt Lauer “ambushed” me with questions about email scandal (link: http://hill.cm/9VZPlT9) hill.cm/9VZPlT9

    She blames matt lauer for asking her one tough question.

    She was not prepared.

  254. Trump says:

    Poor Hillary needs another run at the nomination.

    She wuz robbed!!!!

  255. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    252. “robbie melting down every day is better than anyone could have predicted.”

    Totally agree, it will continue for 3 years, 4 months, 11 days and 21 hours.

  256. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “i voted for jill stein”

    Aha, Lisab. Now we know. Stein was involved with Putin and Michael Flynn. Your obviously are a Russian troll. Bet your real name is Natasha. You know that, according to many Democrats, Stein cost Hillary the election?

    From Newsweek:

    “The debate over Stein’s role in Trump’s victory was revived when her name appeared over the summer in a document request by the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is investigating potential collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign. With that returned long-standing, but unfounded, suspicions that Stein was somehow associated with elements within the Kremlin. Those suspicions stem, in good part, from a photograph of Stein taken in Moscow in 2015, where she was attending a conference. The now-infamous image shows her sitting at a dinner table with Russian President Vladimir Putin and former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who is at the center of the investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties with Russia.”

  257. Tgca says:

    Well, it looks like we may dodge a bullet in Miami-Dade-Broward area as Irma moves to Keys and westward. This massive storm is back to Cat 5 and will hit a lesser populated and pretty much evacuated area 1st before moving north through FL so there will still be big problems. But the worst would have been a direct hit in Miami or Fort Lauderdale with its 6M heavily concentrated area. We will still get hurricane winds here expected to be in 100 to 150 mph range but we will avoid the enormous and most destructive water surge into the heavily populated south eastern border.

  258. Tgca says:

    Cuba got a direct hit and that is very sad. I hope the losses there are not catastrophic.

  259. Bitterlaw says:

    Better news than expected, Tg. I hope you are still FABULOUS.

  260. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/08/politics/navy-aircraft-carrier-hurricane-irma/index.html

    Battleships? Really, CNN? The only remaining battleships are museums.

  261. Wes says:

    To help Soccer Guru understand what others were saying about how the President drives midterm results despite not being on the ballot, I looked up the approval ratings for each of the last three Presidents the week before his midterms:

    Bill Clinton (1994) 46-46–catastrophic losses up and down the ballot but especially in Congress

    (1998) 66-30–gain of five seats in the House and a dead even break in the Senate

    GWB (2002) 63-29–gains in both houses of Congress

    (2006) 38-56–large losses in Congress leading to loss of control of both chambers

    Obama (2010) 44-47–massive losses up and down the ballot leading to loss of majorities everywhere but the Senate

    (2014) 40-54–losses up and down the ballot with the Senate in particular being the epicenter of the GOP’s victories

    In each case, the President’s approvals have been the guiding force behind his party’s midterm showing. Thus, it’s impossible for anyone but shills to claim Trump has no role if Republicans suffer electoral disaster next year. Conversely if Republicans do well, Trump will deserve credit for his role in their victory.

  262. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes brings facts to a blog fight. Sweet.

  263. Bitterlaw says:

    Of course, Trump Guru will respond with 20 posts using the words “stupid, moron, cretin, etc.”

  264. Trump says:

    In each instance, the president is not on the ballot.

    When the president gets on the ballot, in 1996 and 2012, he cruises to reelection.

    Imagine that.

    The electorate punished Obama in 2010 and 2014 when he did not run. The electorate loved him in 2012 when he actually ran.

    The 8 percent job approval rating for congress is Trump’s fault.

    Ha ha ha ha

  265. Trump says:

    All the idiots keep ignoring the job approval ratings of the ones actually on the ballot.

    Go look up the corresponding approvals of congress (and its leadership in particular) for each of the elections.

  266. Trump says:

    I know, this is what the lazy idiots do.

    Parrot clueless pundits.

  267. Bitterlaw says:

    Congress is never popular. However, most members of Congress get re-elected. In Trump Guru’s world, 92% of Reps and Senators will lose.

  268. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Trump Guru could not respond to you. Typical.

  269. Trump says:

    Here’s the history of congress job approval, closes to the election date:

    1994 23-70
    1998 44-47
    2002 47-39
    2006 26-67
    2010 17-77
    2014 15-79

    See a pattern? You know, those actually on the ballot.

    Enjoy the 8 percent job approval. It seems Trump is doing his job in driving the GOP down. Ha ha ha ha.

  270. Wes says:

    Well, let’s test this theory, shall we?

    Bill Clinton approval on Election Day 1996: 54-36

    Obama approval rating on Election Day: 52-45

    Whoa!

    The Presidents and their parties did well when the Presidents were popular. They fared badly when the Presidents were unpopular.

    Mind blown.

  271. Trump says:

    What a moron.

    No concept of open and marginal seats.

  272. Trump says:

    Approval high because they were actually running and campaigning.

    You know, actually on the ballot.

  273. Trump says:

    Congressional approval affects the open and marginal seats more directly, idiot. And affects margins of winners

    Even a blind clueless idiot would know that.

  274. Wes says:

    I knew that sophomoric pseudopsephologist would be unable to respond logically or without personal assaults, Bitter.

    In fact I would have been disappointed had he used anything resembling rational argumentation to make his point.

    Of course I expected nothing more from the guy who knew so little about his own putative home state he declared the following:

    1) Portman would lose reelection. (Portman won by 21 points.)

    2) Trump would get more raw votes than Portman. (Portman got about 270,000 more votes than Trump.)

  275. Trump says:

    But enjoy the 8 percent job approval. It’s Trump’s biggest achievement yet.

  276. Bitterlaw says:

    So Congress never gets over 50% approval but most members get re-elected. Now, respond to Wes.

  277. Wes says:

    Trump clearly overlooked the years 1998 and 2002. No President was on the ballot either year, yet Bush and Clinton were very popular both years. Not coincidentally their parties did well those years.

    This is above Trump’s capacity to understand, I know.

  278. Trump says:

    Check the congressional approval for those years.

    You know, those actually on the ballot.

  279. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Don’t forget that political genius Trump Guru predicted a Hillary victory and the GOP being wiped out in Congress in 2016.

  280. Trump says:

    The idiot has no clue about open and marginal searts.

    Who is surprising?

  281. Trump says:

    Who is surprised at this moron’s stupidity?

  282. Wes says:

    I did. Once Congress was popular, yet Republicans won clearly. Logically given your argument, that year should have been a split since the House and Senate had different majority parties.

    The other, the GOP fared poorly but still held control.

    Logic is not your thing, is it, Mr. Portman Will Lose to Strickland?

  283. Wes says:

    We really shouldn’t be so harsh on PseudoTrump, Bitter. Victims of botched full fromtal lobotomies just can’t help themselves.

  284. Bitterlaw says:

    I know about open and marginal seats. You can’t understand that Trump’s approval rating will affect those seats in 2018 because he is “not on the ballot.”

  285. Trump says:

    Yup, voters punish those not on ballot.

    Not the ones actually running.

    I get that.

    Ha ha ha ha.

  286. Trump says:

    Same as, the president passes bills in congress.

    I get that.

    Ha ha ha ha

  287. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, in real world, 8 percent approval.

    For the ones actually on ballot.

  288. Wes says:

    We of course know how this will play out:

    Trump will hyperventilate, call me a cretin/moron/idiot/whatever for about 20 or so posts, and continue to make an ass of himself. I’ll continue to snipe at him. Eventually he’ll slink away with his tail between his legs because I’ve been laughing at him the whole time.

    Eventually we’ll have another vlash and repeat.

    It’s happened a dozen times before. This will be no different.

  289. Trump says:

    I have been laughing at you stupid idiots for years now.

    Why would things change?

  290. Trump says:

    That is the only reason I come here.

    To see how the lower half of the population thinks.

  291. Trump says:

    And I am never disappointed. It’s always a hoot.

  292. Wes says:

    In PseudoTrumpland, Donald Trump is the only person who has no effect on GOP election showings. Meanwhile in the reality where Rob Portman outpolled the real Donald Trump by over a quarter million votes in Ohio, the real Donald Trump will very much be a factor in next year’s comgressional elections.

  293. Trump says:

    Yes, he will be factor.

    Propping up the 8 percent congressional rating.

  294. Trump says:

    And hopefully driving heller and flake out.

  295. Wes says:

    The guy who loses his temper and comes up with stock, unoriginal names for anyone who even slightly disagrees with him is laughing.

    Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

    Now how many votes did Strickland win by again? His inevitable victory in your home state was your ironclad prediction by the way.

  296. Trump says:

    Right. The moron knows what someone is thinking or feeling on the Internet.

    Miracle.

  297. Wes says:

    Thanks for making my point for me, PseudoTrump.

    Now don’t disappoint me. Make sure to reference bodily functions, overuse variants of the word “idiot,” and project the incest that spawned you onto others.

  298. Trump says:

    I would make your point if you had a point.

    Internet is a wonderful fantasy place, isn’t it? How’s your new house in the Bahamas?

  299. Wes says:

    Considering I gave that project up six years ago, nonexistent. Thanks for asking for information I long ago provided. You really should try to keep up more when not stuck on your repeat cycles of hyperventilation.

  300. Trump says:

    Just because idiots on the Internet believe something doesn’t make It so.

    “An Investigation into Correlation between a President’s Approval Rating and the Performance of his Party in the Midterm Elections”

    Key note – “…statistically significant useful model for approval ratings greater than 50%: y = 275.461+4.37551x…An attempt to duplicate the success of the greater than 50% model on a less than 50% model was unsuccessful, as a t test for model utility showed no evidence for a useful model.”

    Real data, not some idiot’s heartburn.

  301. Trump says:

    That equation in 304 is y = -275.461+4.37551x, not +.

  302. jason says:

    After a breakfast of 6 slices of slab bacon, a leftover pork chop, buttered cornbread, eggs, waffles with maple syrup and coffee, I am physically if not mentally prepared for anything dumb Soccer Moron, Wobbie or NYC might write here.

  303. Trump says:

    I would expect nothing less from the 4th quartile.

  304. jason says:

    Wow, Soccer Moron is coming up with equations.

    Reminds me of the time my dog ate a math book.

    No, it didn’t make him a math genius.

  305. Trump says:

    Says the subcretin liodiot.

  306. Trump says:

    It’s math.

    Beyond your comprehension.

    Stick to maple syrup.

  307. Trump says:

    I expect nothing more from idiots like you.

  308. Trump says:

    That’s what is funny.

  309. jason says:

    wes is correct that a low approval rating will definitely impact the congressional election. To argue against that is like arguing that the sun doesn’t rise in the east.

    If Soccer Moron wants to make the argument that Trump’s approval rating is probably higher than what the MSM’s polls say it is I am sympathetic to that argument.

    THe results will correlate with the actual approval number, not the MSM’s number.

  310. Cash Cow TM says:

    We got out of D.C. safely.

    A bunch of Hindus there bowed down to me…

    A homeless, hungry beggar man with lust in his eyes and salivary glands overflowing said to me: “How YOU doing?”

    We saw a statue of a man and a child reading a book or something. I said that statue offended me and that we should tear it down.

    A startled Mrs. Walt said “Think it in your mind…do not verbalize your thoughts.”

  311. Trump says:

    And the best part is, you never disappoint.

  312. Trump says:

    Science is settled, moron.

    Not that you would get it.

  313. jason says:

    Stick to maple syrup”

    Yeah, no Aunt Jemima for me.

  314. Cash Cow TM says:

    Speaking of statues…

    the Jefferson County WV county commission took up the issue of a complaint by six AA women who were offended by a small plaque on the court house wall that said “This plaque is to honor the memory of Jefferson County confederate soldiers”. The plague has no confederate flag or any other symbol.

    They voted 5-0 to leave the plaque alone.

    Common sense has reared its head.

  315. jason says:

    A bunch of Hindus there bowed down to me”

    They probably had never seen a guru that old….

  316. Robbie says:

    Axios says Trump’s going left. Going to really enjoy watching the Trump boosters here explain how it’s actually conservative for Donnie, Chuck, and Nancy to cut deals on a bunch of legislation.

    https://www.axios.com/axios-am-2483256533.html

  317. Trump says:

    Ah, the cretin still clinging to meaningless tripe.

    The so called conservatives can’t deliver anything, in case you didn’t notice.

  318. Trump says:

    Go play in the corner, cretin.

    I hope Trump used the same words to McConnell and Ryan.

  319. jason says:

    Soccer Moron can’t come to grips that Flake and Heller are 100 times more conservative than Trump.

  320. Trump says:

    Trump and Chuck and Nancy delivered a bill to sign, in 2 days.

    McConnell and Ryan can’t deliver a bill to sign, after blabbing for 7 years.

    Go figure.

  321. Trump says:

    Maybe they are, idiot.

    They are also losers.

  322. Trump says:

    Millions are more conservative than Trump.

    Only Trump is president.

    Go figure.

  323. jason says:

    So nothing is going to happen in Palm Beach and the east coast of Florida?

    Dems are going to claim Trump changed the hurricane path so it wouldn’t hit Mar del Lago.

  324. jason says:

    Thanks for making my point for me, PseudoTrump.?

    I like it.

    I am surprised the real Trump hasn’t sued Soccer Moron for impersonating someone with a brain.

  325. Trump says:

    Just another pseudo ideology to masturbate with.

    As much relevant too.

  326. Trump says:

    Go for it, idiot.

  327. Trump says:

    If it makes you feel better.

  328. Trump says:

    What I have learned from the 4th quartile is Medicaid expansion is lifelong conservatism.

    As is individual healthcare mandate.

    As is campaign finance reform.

  329. Trump says:

    Not to mention CR and amnesty.

  330. Trump says:

    The funny part is, lifelong conservatism is how you got Trump.

  331. jason says:

    Axios? Founded by former Politico left wing hacks?

    Wobbie is attracted to pseudo-journalism like maggots to roadkill.

  332. Trump says:

    Fake news and fake polls are the cretin’s bread and butter.

  333. Trump says:

    Not to mention fake candidates like Jeb!

  334. jason says:

    One of the Axios left wing hacks proposed a new political party, Innovation.

    The idea was that it would advance “necessary” legislation in a “non partisan” manner.

    Of course, when you read the “necessary” legislation, it was all nanny state, left wing garbage.

    “Non partisan” left wing garbage.

  335. Tina says:

    Is there any muh russian news this am?

  336. Tina says:

    66 percent of az rs have an unfavorable opinion of flake per that poll.

  337. NYCmike says:

    “What I have learned from the 4th quartile is Medicaid expansion is lifelong conservatism.

    As is individual healthcare mandate.

    As is campaign finance reform.”

    -Lots of shouting back and forth, but I know jason, Bitterlaw, Wes, Robbie, “CG” will ignore this sarcastic statement, because it is right on.

    In my opinion, Trump screwed up with this deal that received 80 votes in the Senate, similar to past Presidents, or Governors, who went for the issues raised above.

  338. Tina says:

    John Cardillo @johncardillo
    ·
    19m
    Over/under. Who does @HillaryClinton blame next for her landslide loss?

    Jebots, not voting more than 5 times?

  339. NYCmike says:

    uh oh, Tina brought up Flake/Ward and did NOT slam Ward!

  340. jason says:

    Jeb was not a fake candidate.

    He was an actual terrible, unprepared, weak, non-feasible candidate impersonating a juggernaut, front runner, clear the field, viable candidate.

    In other words, an epic political trainwreck looking for a place to happen. It happened.

  341. NYCmike says:

    As for next years elections, it is still too early. As I said last March, speak with me in May of next year. Too much can happen between now and then to re-set the political landscape.

  342. jason says:

    Ward is the perfect deadender candidate.

    Send a message!

  343. NYCmike says:

    JEB!2016 was TERRIBLE!

    Other than “CG” and Robbie, this is possibly the most echo-chamber item on HHR.

  344. NYCmike says:

    Maybe DeWitt can beat them both in the primary.

    May the most electable candidate in the general election win.

  345. NYCmike says:

    Is it DeWitt, or DeWit?

  346. NYCmike says:

    Or DeTwit? Or is that Flake?

  347. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Take me out of that list. I voted for Trump even though I hate him. I am complex.

  348. Jonesy says:

    Rick Scott will have huge $$ to run against Nelson in FL. any chance Nelson retires? In his mid 70’s?

  349. Jonesy says:

    So Robbie has officially said the GOP will the House in 2018. I now like our chances to hold it

  350. Jonesy says:

    354. Tweets from MSM types 14 months before the vote, have convinced 2016 election expert, Robbie, to conclude the GOP will lose the House.

    CG/Corey and Robbie should start a Comedy Team

  351. jason says:

    I voted for Trump even though I hate him. I am complex.”

    And I didn’t vote for him but I like him more as President than I did as a candidate.

    I am more complex than Bitter.

  352. Tina says:

    Ny, i have written extensively that the as seat is in jeopardy, no matter if its flake or ward as candidate.

  353. Tina says:

    Jeb 2016 was a terrible candidate.

    No answer for iraq.

    Blew $150 million like a drunk.

    Hillary like on illegal immigration.

    A porker

    Nothing realky conservative, maybe perhaps his eatimg habita? But now he has blown up again.

  354. Tina says:

    With that said, the az rs appear to dislike flake.

    66 percent unfavorable.

    18 percent approvall.

    I know i am mixing polls here but those numbers are horrible.

  355. NYCmike says:

    A-Holes are complex. A lot of sh*t going on……

  356. NYCmike says:

    “He can please the kids and New Yorkers. With the banishment of Bannon and his allies, Trump is left with a largely moderate to Democratic staff.”

    -Robbie is amusing…..he posts an article by Axios which includes the snippet above. For 8 months he said Bannon must go, and now that he is gone, Robbie is surprised when Trump acts with Democrats.

    Of course, he would NOT want Bannon back.

  357. Bitterlaw says:

    I am more complex than Bitter.

    Your affinity for llamas does not make you complex. I

  358. Cash Cow TM says:

    Jesus never came out opposing slavery.

    TEAR DOWN THE CHURCHES!

  359. lisab says:

    Battleships? Really, CNN? The only remaining battleships are museums.
    —————————

    somehow i don’t think anyone working for cnn has been in the navy for a very long time

  360. Trump says:

    I am straightforward.

    I voted for trump in the primaries, in the general.

    I contributed to his campaign in the primaries, in the general.

    And have loved every minute of the presidency. Specially when he slams the clueless, corrupt as$holes and losers on a daily basis.

  361. Trump says:

    And the next 7 years are going to be similarly glorious.

    And, man oh man, the next 8 years of Kid Rock.

  362. lisab says:

    In each case, the President’s approvals have been the guiding force behind his party’s midterm showing. Thus, it’s impossible for anyone but shills to claim Trump has no role if Republicans suffer electoral disaster next year.
    ———————–

    that is correlation not causation.

    next year will be very instructive because trump supporters are still very strong around my area, rural ny, and i expect in other rural areas. it will be interesting to see if trumpers go to the polls

  363. lisab says:

    Aha, Lisab. Now we know. Stein was involved with Putin and Michael Flynn. Your obviously are a Russian troll.
    —————————

    i have been to russia several times …

  364. jason says:

    I voted for trump in the primaries, in the general.

    I contributed to his campaign in the primaries, in the general.”

    LOL, you are a pathological liar.

    Pre-Trump are on record as saying only Rubio could win.

    Then you said you only saw Trump as a loser whose only benefit was to destroy the R party.

    You said Rs were stupid because they were voting for a Democrat in the primaries.

    Then you predicted Trump’s loss would drag down the entire party.

    You are on record as saying “the Senate is already lost, you are fighting for the House”.

    You were NEVER a Trump supporter.

    GFY, you are lying POS. A real scumbag.

  365. Trump says:

    Hey as$hole Jason, you have always been a dimwit stupid moron.

    What I said and what I voted are two different things, mother fuc King idiot.

    Logic has never been your thing, cretin?

  366. Trump says:

    That is why always say.

    Never depend on the Internet for real.

  367. Trump says:

    Show me anywhere where I said I voted for anyone else.

  368. Trump says:

    I am complex that way.

    Not that a 4th q idiot like you would get it.

  369. Trump says:

    I am not like you morons, virtue signaling on an obscure comment site to make yourself seem important.

  370. lisab says:

    “An Investigation into Correlation between a President’s Approval Rating and the Performance of his Party in the Midterm Elections”
    ————————————–

    i read the paper, it is quite compelling evidence, although it only goes through the clinton years.

    the evidence is quite clear — presidents with over 50% approval clean up in the midterms. those with under 50% have a coin flip election where the president loses a bunch of seats or a tremendous amount of seats.

    the standard deviation is 22 seats — so basically the model is useless for prediction when the president’s approval rating is under 50%

  371. lisab says:

    the evidence is quite clear — presidents with over 50% approval clean up in the midterms.
    —————————————–

    that should be do well relative to other presidents, they don’t actually tend to gain many seats

  372. Trump says:

    Don’t bring up actual mat.

    It hurts their little minds.

  373. Trump says:

    Real life disturbs their narrative.

    Can’t have that.

  374. lisab says:

    well considering a large number of congressional seats are completely safe, with some reps getting over 70% of the votes

    a standard deviation of 22 seats is quite high

    even if you assume a gaussian distribution a swing of 66 seats would be within the realm of possibility.

    but since we know it cannot be a gaussian distribution, i.e. those are unbounded and continuous and congress is not, the model is shaky anyway. the actual distribution probably approximates a lognormal distribution or a some power function so the tail is probably pretty long and fat and unfortunately discrete

  375. lisab says:

    in other words …

    can i use my ti-89 on the test?

  376. lisab says:

    for the lawyers here, math is what we use when we try to figure out your bills

    the thing with numbers on it

  377. lisab says:

    wes is correct that a low approval rating will definitely impact the congressional election.
    ——————————————-

    actually that does not appear to be correct from the actual data.

    it appears to be some form of assymetric correlation. that is,

    presidents with VERY high approval ratings tend to do okay, and may actually win a few seats

    other presidents lose seats and there is no way to tell if it will be -20 or -60 seats if the presidents approval is under 60%

    and that is assuming a gaussian distribution, which we know for a fact is not the true model

  378. lisab says:

    of course they only used 15 data points (elections)

    sooooooooo … it is a little like throwing darts at a dartboard in high winds

  379. lisab says:

    when math comes up

    hhr posters get scarce!

  380. lisab says:

    if irma hitting florida was revenge for florida going for trump

    what does it mean that irma is directly hitting curba?

  381. lisab says:

    **cuba

  382. lisab says:

    Ruby Bridges, the first black student to integrate an elementary school in the South, is 63 today.

  383. lisab says:

    Linda Sarsour “At the end of the day it’s self-identification. I’m Palestinian, if I want to say ‘I’m Black,’ – I’m Black!”

  384. Tina says:

    Washington Examiner @dcexaminer
    Republicans reject 1 percent cut to Interior Department (link: http://washex.am/2wNHymL) washex.am/2wNHymL

    Real conservatives reject a cut in soending to the interior dept proposed by trump.

  385. lisab says:

    BREAKING NEWS: Son of Fox News host Eric Bolling dies just one day after his father was fired in wake of allegations he texted photos of male genitalia to at least three colleagues

  386. jason says:

    “What I said and what I voted are two different things, mother fuc King idiot.”

    LOL

    I guess it would be a mistake to rely on anything you say, my bad.

  387. lisab says:

    tim kaine’s son arrested in 2015 for not paying to ride public transit …

  388. Trump says:

    As$hole, only the lower 4th quartile idiot like you relies on blog comments.

    Not surprising, given your cretin level mind. So called mind.

  389. Trump says:

    Where in all my quotes, before today, did I say who I voted for, stupid?

  390. lisab says:

    Voynich Manuscript translated

  391. wvally says:

    Really, lisa? Who beat Walt to the punch?

  392. lisab says:

    which is why men couldn’t understand it

  393. lisab says:

    it was only in latin, how could they possibly read it?

  394. janz says:

    #391 Lisab, just read that on Drudge. Ah, I can’t even imagine the heartbreak for the family.

  395. NYCmike says:

    A 1% cut…….from a “lifelong Liberal Democrat”…..voted down by “Republicans”…….”CG” and Robbie will blame Trump

  396. Bitterlaw says:

    365 Super Trump supporter Trump Gure loved Trump so much that he predicted that Trump would lose in a landslide and devastate the GOP down ballot.

  397. Trump says:

    The moron fuc ker still concussed by Trump.

    8 percent approval rating, as$hole. Research proves no effect of presidential rating on midterms. But the idiot Wes says so, so the stupid moron thinks it is gospel.

  398. Trump says:

    Not hat this idiot ever has anything of his own. Except some cra& 2 step lunacy prompted by that loser Romney.

  399. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Nothing but insults and vulgarity from Trump Guru.

  400. Trump says:

    The greatest thing about Trump is his daily fu cking of stupid idiots like Bitterlaw.

  401. Trump says:

    Zzz zzzzzz is one reason you are so stupid.

  402. Trump says:

    Wake up and read something, moron.

  403. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru makes IP 7 2 7 seem like a tolerant genius.

  404. Trump says:

    How’s that 2 step stupidity panning out, idiot? Have you caught up with your fascists. Yet?

  405. Trump says:

    Math is hard, isn’t it, moron?

    Especially for 4q idiot like you.

  406. Trump says:

    Dos declares antifa as domestic terrorists. Has your 2 step process factored that, as$wipe?

  407. Trump says:

    do you understand open and marginal seats yet, moron?

    Or is it too hard for your two brain cells?

  408. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru posts like an angry 12 year old.

  409. Trump says:

    What’s this blabbing about 92 percent incumbents winning reelection?

    By your fu ck Ed logic, congress would never change hands.

    Open and marginal seats, idiot.

  410. Trump says:

    A stupid 6 year old will gat that.

    But not you, idiot.

  411. Trump says:

    8 percent approval for your lords, moron.

  412. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru was two stupid to understand that the KKK, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and Antifa are all security threats but you gain more c edibility attacking the one that actually kills somebody for when you criticize the next group attacking somebody.

  413. Trump says:

    No, you are very good at making excuses for your fascist buddies, if they riot against trump.

    You have nothing but an ego battered by massive trump hatred.

  414. Bitterlaw says:

    By Trump Guru’s logic, both chambers of Congress would change hands every midterm because Presidential approval is irrelevant and Congress is never popular.

  415. Bitterlaw says:

    Show me where I ever made an excuse for Antifa. You won’t be able to do it.

  416. Trump says:

    By the stupid moron’s logic 8 percent approval is all dandy and had no effect.

    But presidential approval, shown to have no correlation, is somehow the determining factor.

    Math and logic are apparently too far for this as$wipe dumb sh$t.

  417. Trump says:

    “Do not condemn leftist violence…”

    Ypur worded, lying cra@ weasel.

  418. Trump says:

    Regale us again how gas prices are detrmined, moron.

  419. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru always uses the …. to hide what I said.

  420. Trump says:

    Your words, as$wipe

  421. Bitterlaw says:

    Call my house. Easy to do.

  422. Trump says:

    You are getting good at lying too.

  423. Trump says:

    Why the f u c k would anyone want to talk to you, moron?

  424. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t know why NYC never weighs in against Trump Guru.

  425. Trump says:

    You don’t know anything, idiot.

    “I don’t know…” Is your calling card.

  426. Bitterlaw says:

    “Moron and as$wipe” are you calling cards. Such a record of achievement.

  427. Trump says:

    Suits you, that’s why.

  428. Trump says:

    Truth hurts.

  429. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes was right about the registration system.

  430. Trump says:

    You should start your is. Blog, as$wipe. With a registration system

  431. Tina says:

    I do mot get the trump is not a republican meme .

    He has proposed and cut federal employment, including the epa whose numbers employed equals reagans numbers.

    He has cut regulations like.

    Both bushes did not cut federal employment or spending.

    Is he perfect? No.

  432. Trump says:

    It is a meme by trump haters, driven by massive injuries to their egos occasioned by the as$kicking he delivered to their favorite losers.

    No logic to it, just TDS.

  433. Trump says:

    Plus the literal inability to understand the simple English word “lifelong”, of course.

  434. Trump says:

    Just as the Dems have the Russian ogre, the TDS sufferers have “lifelong democrat”.

    If they didn’t cling to it, they would have to confront their own loserness.

    It provides them with numb comfort.

  435. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Are you impressed with Trump Guru? Least substantial poster ever atHHR.

  436. Trump says:

    Why are fishing for support, as$wipe?

    Are you a weak weeping 12 year old girl, moron?

  437. Bitterlaw says:

    Pelosi and Schumer used to be pariahs here. Now they are ok because Trump is their buddy.

  438. Bitterlaw says:

    You are an embarrassment and a joke to this blog. I feel sorry for you.

  439. Trump says:

    Because they get things done, as opposed to losers like McConnell and Ryan.

    Maybe the Dumb and Dumber Could have gotten a bill passed.

    Nah, padding bills is so passé.

    .you are too dumb to get it, don’t even try.

  440. Trump says:

    Nobody is more of a joke than you.

    Math, English, economy , markets, all way over your head.

    Antifa your buddy.

  441. Trump says:

    And then you ask some random stranger to call your home.

    What is your thought process?

  442. Bitterlaw says:

    I just wanted to tell you GFY over the phone. Typing it is just not as satisfying.

  443. Trump says:

    Go yell at the mirror, as$wipe.

  444. Trump says:

    Better still, start your own blog, with a registration system.

    I promise I won’t register.

  445. Trump says:

    Only someone dumber than a slug would invite a random stranger from thee Internet to call him at home.

    Any other idiots would do that?

  446. Trump says:

    And secondly, it may be satisfying to you, but what’s my incentive?

    Deals require win-win for both. Not that a dumb idiot like you would know.

  447. Tina says:

    /pol/ News Infinity @polNewsInfinity
    ·
    10h
    Trump has broken late night comedians. All they talk about now is him while reading his tweets live on air.
    It’s pretty pathetic to watch.

    Another reason why he will not get off twitter.

  448. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    I have rebuked “Trump” several times when he has gone over the line, but sometimes , like now, it isn’t worth the effort, because he actually did post some evidence earlier to disprove Wes’s assertion.

    I am not sure who is rught, but I know that Robbie is claiming a calamity, so that bodes well for Republucsns, in my humble opinion.

  449. Trump says:

    Someone help the pathetic moron out, he is squealing.

  450. NYCmike says:

    Also, the fact that you are surprised by Trump working with Schumer/Pelosi after the way the Republicans passed NOTHING is quite odd.

    I stated repeatedly Trump likes to make deals. Send him the most conservative legislation possible and he will sign it. What did they do? They went Wobbly!

  451. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    He also reminds me of MD in some way, so I expect a similar ending to him in the years ahead.

  452. NYCmike says:

    A 1% cut is fought…….by Republucans. Jeez Louise!

  453. Trump says:

    Good one, nyt. Comparing me to his buddy md will trigger the moron even more.

    Good job.

  454. Trump says:

    Republicans are the biggest porkers. Some of us have realized it for years.

    $20 tr debt is a bipartisan achievement.

  455. Trump says:

    Opposing 1% reduction in one fed dept spending is lifelong conservatism.

  456. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Trump Guru also predicted Hillary would win in a landslide that would give the a Dems control of Congress.

  457. Trump says:

    You.are not helping the idiot out.

  458. Trump says:

    Someone hold his beer.

  459. Bitterlaw says:

    Schumer used to be the Devil to NYC. Not any more.

  460. Trump says:

    life changes.

    Now it is GOP congress. Hence 8 percent job approval..

  461. Trump says:

    Nyc lives and learns.

  462. Trump says:

    The lying and corruption reaching the breaking point.

  463. Trump says:

    Not to discount gross incompetence.

  464. Trump says:

    They still don’t realize this is how they got Trump.

  465. NYCmike says:

    Schumer is a poison, like Pelosi.

    Unfortunately, a Republicsn Congress acted like school-age children who had been scolded by their parents, and decided to throw tantrums for 6 months.

    Trump was wrong to go for Schumer deal.

    Republicans are wrong in trying to raise the debt ceiling until past the election .

  466. NYCmike says:

    I relied on Trump to beat Hillary .
    I relied on Trump to pick good judges and a competent cabinet, to cut regulations and budgets.

    He did those things so far, as far as his power allows.

    I relied on a Republican Congress to push conservative legislation.
    I guess I asked too much.

  467. NYCmike says:

    Cheers, and Good Night.

    Bitterlaw, thank you for using few curse words.

    “Trump”, you belittle yourself with those types of comments.

    Hav e a good night to both of you.

  468. Trump says:

    There, moron, he offered you his tepid support.

  469. Trump says:

    Not that it made you any less stupid.

    But any port in a storm.

  470. Trump says:

    And to your earlier point, nyc, I have no intention of hanging around for years.

    Rest assured the idiots are not that interesting.

  471. Trump says:

    Or maybe I’ll transform into Kid Rock when he wins.

    That sounds like a better idea.

  472. lisab says:

    Plus the literal inability to understand the simple English word “lifelong”
    ————————————-

    yes, that was very funny!

    i don’t understand how the snowflakes can be so angry every day.

    for example, i like spiced rum. a diet cuba libre is one of my favorite drinks. but if i drank it every day for as long as robbie rants, i would be in rehab.

    i would feel bad for him … but he is just unlikeable.

  473. lisab says:

    They still don’t realize this is how they got Trump
    ——————————–

    what they don’t understand is how the deplorables finally figured out the gop establishment has no intention of ending illegal immigration or obamacare.

    they need obamacare because if you have a bunch of illegals working under the table they won’t have health insurance without obamawelfare

  474. jason says:

    As$hole, only the lower 4th quartile idiot like you relies on blog comments”

    Yeah, I should have known anything you post is garbage. Sorry.

  475. Trump says:

    No, idiot, your relying is stupid,

    But not surprising.

    That’s what low intelligence does for you.

  476. Trump says:

    I am just elevating your knowledge.

  477. Trump says:

    Maybe some day you will learn the difference between words and actions. On the Internet.

    No one should hold his breath.

  478. Trump says:

    And to read carefully.

    But that would assume that you can comprehend.

  479. Trump says:

    Sorry you are so dense.

    Life must be hard for you.

  480. Trump says:

    Here’s a deal.

    Why don’t some of you drop off for a month or so? I will get bored with the lack of fun, and leave. You come back then.

    Think about it.

  481. jason says:

    what they don’t understand is how the deplorables finally figured out the gop establishment”

    Many deplorables were not GOP voters to start with, they were blue collar democrats. The GOP vote was actually depressed in many traditional GOP areas, that is why Trump actually did worse than Romney in Texas and Arizona, even in the Philly burbs.

    Nothing to do with “GOP establishment”.

    Blue collar Dems made the difference for Trump. They gave him OH, PA, WI, and MI.

    Blue collar areas like Youngstown in Ohio switched from Obama to Trump.

    THese deplorables decided the Dem establishment was not in their interest.

  482. Trump says:

    That doesn’t explain the primaries.

  483. Trump says:

    But cling to the universal popularity of the GOP establishment.

    It rivulets numb comfort.

  484. Trump says:

    Provides.

  485. lisab says:

    the deplorables also voted for trump in the gop primaries

    the gop establishment does not like the trump voters, and certainly would never invite them to their dinner parties or country clubs

    but they have depended on their votes. as long as a gop candidate gave lip service to controlling the border, cutting spending, ending obamacare, getting tough on trade deals etc. they could count on the deplorables’ votes … until … it became clear the gop establishment did not actually want to do any of that

  486. Trump says:

    I don’t think McConnell and Ryan realize the perils that they have put the GOP in.

    If the idea that trump and Dems can get things done takes hold, GOP will be decimated in 2018.

  487. lisab says:

    the dems really have a tough 2018 in the senate, and as the paper above showed, almost every president loses seats in congress in the midterms.

    2020 will be the big show

  488. lisab says:

    the dnc vs rnc fundraising tells the story

    the rnc is raising two times more and has seven times more cash on hand!

    the dems fundraising from small donors has imploded. the millenials, illegals, welfare recipients, college students and unemployed are just unwilling or unable to give them money. that is half their constituents.

    if it was not for gays, unions, and various ethnic minorities the only people giving to them would be celebrities and billionairs.

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    Most of the people I know who belong to country clubs are Democrats.

  490. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump wants to make a deal to leave? No Deal. The pathetic loser thinks he can dictate to us. Just leave.

  491. Diamond Jim says:

    😛

  492. Diamond Jim says:

    D iamond Jim

  493. Trump says:

    I will be here to keep pointing out how pathetic lying crap& weasel you are, bitter.

    And with a sub cretin level of understanding of math, English, economy. And a love for fascist violence.

    Just a hate filled ignoramus.

  494. Trump says:

    And a weak little as$hile begging others to help you.

  495. Trump says:

    And a fu ck ing creep who somehow has a fascination with other people’s families, and who thinks inviting strangers to call his house is cool.

  496. Trump says:

    If you had the guts, idiot, you would start your own blog, with a registration.

    But you are just too stupid.

  497. Bitterlaw says:

    I love it. Keep ranting Trump Guru.

    Everybody here knows you lie except when you take a break to just rant.