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Moore Leads In Four Different Polls in AL

We have four final polls for the runoff election tonight in Alabama and in all four cases, Roy Moore appears poised to take the Republican nomination and defeat the incumbent and Trump-backed Luther Strange.

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (Emerson)
Moore 50%
Strange (inc) 40%

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (Optimus)
Moore 55%
Strange (inc) 45%

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (Trafalgar)
Moore 57%
Strange (inc) 41%

US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (Cygnal)
Moore 52%
Strange (inc) 41%

All four polls were done on varying days between September 21-24 among likely voters. More interestingly, the Emerson College poll did a General Election match up and it shows Roy Moore is a better candidate for Republicans than is Luther Strange, which is different than what Donald Trump tried to claim in his speech the other night.

US SENATE – ALABAMA (Emerson)
Roy Moore (R) 52%
Doug Jones (D) 30%

Luther Strange (R-inc) 49%
Doug Jones (D) 36%

The Emerson GE poll was done September 21-23 among 519 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:16 am
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605 Responses to “Moore Leads In Four Different Polls in AL”

  1. MichiganGuy says:

    First

  2. MichiganGuy says:

    Senator Roy Moore!

  3. Phil says:

    Watching Doug Jones bend himself into a pretzel during the GE campaign will be entertaining to be sure.

    Perhaps the left can throw twenty or thirty million his way. Love to see lefty money go down the drain.

  4. Waingro says:

    Moore v. Strange is looking like Earthquake v. Damien:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0et4dsH5ruU#t=2m48s

  5. jason says:

    jason
    If you lived in Alabama, for whom would you vote, the Dem. Obamabot Jones or Scumbag Roy Moore?
    On his campaign page, Jones cloaks his live for the Paris Climate Accord and the Iran Nuclear Agreement.

    I would vote for neither one.

    Moore is disgusting scum who only believes in the law if it agrees with his opinions.

    Anyone who votes for him in the primary or the GE is guilty of promoting the absolute worse in US politics, something the Dems are usually guilty of, the ends justify the means.

    This idiot does not deserve the vote from anybody who calls himself a Republican or a conservative.

  6. Bitterlaw says:

    McCain, Collins and Rand Paul are no votes on the repeal but do not replace Obamacare bill. NYC to condemn Rand in 3…2…Never.

  7. jason says:

    Now I have heard the mother of all lame excuses..

    “Jessie James Decker, a country singer and wife of Eric Decker, said the Tennessee Titans wide receiver was not made aware of the team’s plan to remain in the locker room before Sunday’s game against the Seattle Seahawks.

    “My husband was not made aware it was time to go out for the game,” James Decker said, per TMZ. “Unfortunately a decision was made for him without him knowing.”

  8. Bitterlaw says:

    McCain and Collins should vote yes even if they have to be bribed.

  9. Tina says:

    Donald Trump Jr. ? @DonaldJTrumpJr
    Media: “Do you have anything to say about the NFL?”
    SEC. DEF Matis: “I’m the secretary of defense. We defend the country”
    6:49 AM – Sep 26, 2017

  10. Tgca says:

    Lil warmonger McCain will vote yes if you promise him we will invade a country of his choice and start a new war.

  11. Waingro says:

    “Anyone who votes for him in the primary or the GE is guilty of promoting the absolute worse in US politics, something the Dems are usually guilty of, the ends justify the means.

    This idiot does not deserve the vote from anybody who calls himself a Republican or a conservative.”

    Understandable position.

  12. Tina says:

    Yeah, him and goober, when it comes to blowing up the me, always cote yes.

  13. Waingro says:

    #6, time to fold and hope the Republicans somehow hold the house and get Senate reinforcements next November to ram a similar bill through in 2019.

    Just turn to tax reform now.

  14. Tina says:

    Kmore like $50 million for the al senate seat.

  15. CG says:

    I will check back later but can someone please link specifically to where Doug Jones talks about the Iranian nuclear deal? I looked at his site and it is not on the issues page.

    Of course I do not live in AL, but I would probably be inclined to vote for Jones over Moore, having never voted for a Democrat in my life, just as a protest vote. However, if he states he supported the Iran deal, I would write someone in instead.

    I just want to know if he really is saying that or if that is something else that gets made up here.

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca- I am a big fan of warmongering. Just not with North Korea right now. I prefer casualties to be under 5 million.

    Why won’t you talk about ABORTION?

  17. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey did not vote for Hillary. He just wanted her to win.

  18. Tina says:

    15 years of blowing up the me. And goober and mcamnesty always wromg.

  19. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue” @NolteNC
    ·
    1h
    You can’t criticize NFL cuz black or McCain cuz POW or illegal immig. cuz hispanic or SSM cuz gay or Hillary cuz woman…

    Pattern?

    Only, that side has 1st amendment rights.

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    If I lived in Alabama (impossible but go with it for now), I would vote for the scumbag Republican. I voted for plenty of those in Philadelphia.

  21. Tina says:

    NFL Searching For Crisis Communications Assistant After Trump Savages Them
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/26/nfl-searching-for-crisis-communications-assistant-after-trump-savages-them/?utm_source=site-share

    Nfl,hiring crisis consultant.

    Does it include a dedicate safe space and a place to kneel?

  22. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn. I thought that Tina liked the war in Afghanistan.

  23. Tina says:

    I would vote for moore too over the drat.

    Nomchoice betweem the 2.

    I only voted drat one time, ca senate seat between eric holder 2.0 and voter fraud.

  24. Waingro says:

    #15, I didn’t see anything about Jones and Iran in either google or Twitter searches. He probably is keeping quiet on that.

    But you can be assured Chucky Schmucky will make sure he stays in line on this issue. Don’t kid yourself.

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    However, I would vote for Stange in the primary.

  26. Jonesy says:

    You are right Bitter, Corey/Cg did want Hillary to win, and pick SCOTUS.

    But he wants you know, he is a true Conservative. sarc/

  27. Tina says:

    Bl, i consider afghanistan to be justifiable. I consider it to be in c. Asia and not the me.

    I am speaking about iran, libya, syria, etc.

    All ginned up,by mccain, et. Al

  28. CG says:

    Schumer opposed the Iran Deal.

    There is nothing online that I can find either to suggest that Jones has expressed support for it. If there is, please link it.

  29. Jonesy says:

    Funny how Rand Paul can be a purist, after winning a new 6 year term.

    GOP still needs to hold the vote, put Manchin, Heidtkamp and others on record for their NO votes

  30. Tina says:

    I chose coter fraud iver eric holder 2.0. She was a terrible ca ag.

  31. Waingro says:

    I don’t know why populist-nationalists, conservatives and “Anti-Establishments” didn’t just rally behind Brooks in the primary. He’s far more palatable on a wider scale than Moore and is not exactly a big friend to Paul Ryan and other “Establishment” types.

    Big mistake getting behind this loose cannon.

  32. Jonesy says:

    Now Corey wants Moore to lose the General?

  33. Jonesy says:

    Wain, Brooks was a never Trumper before election

  34. Tina says:

    Trump needs to do the following

    Put the congressional aholes onto obumblercare, no exemption, exemption is not lawful, let ryano and mitchie vote for it.

    Pull ad from nfl.

    Walk away from nafta.

    Walk away from the iranian “deal.”

  35. Tina says:

    I am afraid that moore is cruz 2.0. A purist with no accomplishments.

  36. Tina says:

    The kneelers keep stepping into it. Best course is just atfu

  37. Tina says:

    Strange should never have left toxic mitchie campaign for him and take mo ey from the ky drunks pax.

  38. Waingro says:

    #33, he wasn’t a “Never-Trumper”. He supported Ted Cruz in the primaries, and then came around to endorsing Trump as well. Big difference.

  39. NYCmike says:

    I believe I already linked to a piece about Rand Paul being ALL-or-NOTHING, and stating that I thought he was wrong.

    But don’t let that get in your way, Bitterlaw.

  40. NYCmike says:

    “Schumer opposed the Iran Deal.”

    -He opposed it because he knew there would never be 67 votes for Corker’s sham legislation.

  41. Waingro says:

    #42, right. He had cover.

  42. NYCmike says:

    Definitely had cover.

    He gives more interviews about too many potholes on Northern Blvd in Queens than he did about Obama’s Iran-not-a-treaty.

  43. Jonesy says:

    I just do not see the GOP holding the House without Health Care. Rand does not care, a deadender, I will not defend him any more.

  44. Jonesy says:

    Mike, the Dem Senators in Trump states, who are up in 2018, need to be exposed with a Graham/Cassidy floor vote

  45. MichiganGuy says:

    Exclusive Analysis: GOP Establishment Has Wasted Approximately $235,000 Per Day Against Republicans in Alabama Spending Next to Nothing Against Democrats

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/25/exclusive-analysis-gop-establishment-has-wasted-approximately-235000-per-day-against-republicans-in-alabama-spending-next-to-nothing-against-democrats/amp/

    What a waste of money that they could of used for the general election or other races next year. Senator Roy Moore, get used to hearing that haters!

  46. NYCmike says:

    I still don’t see the House or Senate being lost, simply because the Democrats have lost their minds.

    There is still a chance for some positives, considering it is not even October 2017, still over 13 months before the elections.

  47. Jonesy says:

    Mike, so you think GOP will take up Healthcare again in 2018?

  48. Waingro says:

    #48, I still think GOP makes at least some minimal gains in Senate given the playing field, but House may end up being a jump ball.

  49. Jonesy says:

    PPP

    Northam 43%

    Gillespie 40%

  50. Jonesy says:

    Rush is spot on today.

    Says GOP only has 49 Senators

  51. NYCmike says:

    “Mike, the Dem Senators in Trump states, who are up in 2018, need to be exposed with a Graham/Cassidy floor vote.”

    -Agreed. We could use more votes on several different bills to see where our “representatives” truly stand.

  52. Jonesy says:

    This crap that GOP will benefit from a Obamacare collapse is bogus. Trump voters want action on it

  53. NYCmike says:

    “Mike, so you think GOP will take up Healthcare again in 2018?”

    -No.

    The correct time would have been FULL REPEAL on Jan 21st, 2017, so that they would have had a full 2 years to debate and vote on a new bill, or many separate bills about all of the different issues within the healthcare debate.

    I don’t think people like McConnell, McCain, etc ever intended to take such a BOLD step.

  54. NYCmike says:

    “This crap that GOP will benefit from a Obamacare collapse is bogus.”

    -I don’t know……voters in their respective districts will see representatives who voted FOR REPEAL.

    They can always blame Democrats, as well as Murk, Collins, and Maverick McCain. And they would not be wrong about placing blame with those people, as they did vote to keep Obamacare in place.

  55. Jonesy says:

    Can Trump use Executive Orders on Obamacare? Wipe out the Individual mandate?

  56. Waingro says:

    This is stupid politics. The Dems and MSM will demagogue this to living hell before the GOP has a chance to explain. Go back to the drawing board, please to low info voters.

    “Top White House and GOP leaders have agreed to raise the lowest individual tax rate from 10 to 12 percent, paired with doubling the standard deduction, 5 senior Republicans tell us.”

    https://www.axios.com/republicans-agree-to-raise-bottom-tax-rate-double-standard-deduction-2489774626.html

  57. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    48. “I still don’t see the House or Senate being lost, simply because the Democrats have lost their minds.”

    Would agree. See the Republicans losing some seats in the House, and picking some up in the Senate, but retaining a majority in both.

  58. Waingro says:

    #58, uh, that should have ready “before the GOP has a chance to explain to low info voters.” Not sure what happened there.

  59. Jonesy says:

    How can we pass Tax Reform with only 49 Republican Senators?

  60. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump is winning —

    Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
    The NFL has all sorts of rules and regulations. The only way out for them is to set a rule that you can’t kneel during our National Anthem!

    Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
    But while Dallas dropped to its knees as a team, they all stood up for our National Anthem. Big progress being made-we all love our country!

    Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
    The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger

    The tone of CNN on the topic now is shrill and desperate.

  61. Tina says:

    Ddeadenders will ruin tax reform

    Rand

    Maine chicklet

    Senator planned parenthood.

    Goober or mccain

  62. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Pittsburgh owner is a total idiot. So standing for the national anthem is a political statement, that his team has to hide from? These are his employees, he can tell them not to make political statements while working.

    “The intentions of Steelers players were to stay out of the business of making political statements by not taking the field. Unfortunately, that was interpreted as a boycott of the anthem – which was never our players’ intention.

    Pittsburgh Steeler Owner Rooney”

  63. Jonesy says:

    64. Agree Tina. This was the plan all along. Never Help Trump get a big win. Judges only.

  64. Jonesy says:

    65. Wain, is Moore any worse than vengeful McCain, these days?

  65. Tina says:

    Judges because of grassley, jonesy.

    Grassley has surprised me.

  66. Jonesy says:

    Moore may be a nut, but at this point is he any worse than Deadenders Murk, Collins, Mcshame, or ron Paul’s son?

    At least he will Make McConnell take less of a nap every day

  67. Jonesy says:

    We all went and did the right thing from 2010-2016 and elected GOP Senators, even McStain, to finally get the majority. We were good soldiers.

    And what did a get us besides Gorsuch?

  68. GPO says:

    Jonesy says:

    September 26, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    We all went and did the right thing from 2010-2016 and elected GOP Senators, even McStain, to finally get the majority. We were good soldiers.

    And what did a get us besides Gorsuch?

    A ton of lower court judges and potential Kennedy, Ginsburg replacements. It has been discussed ad nauseum here, but nominating Akin , Buck, Mourdock, Angle and Mourdock is what has us where we are. McCain Collins and Murk would be somewhat irrelevant otherwise

  69. Mr.Vito says:

    The Missouri vote would be one… I don’t think anyone can guarantee Lugar, Norton, Lowden, or Castle would vote for Obamacare repeal.

  70. NYCmike says:

    Ayotte would have been a reliable vote, I would think.

  71. Tina says:

    Rhttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/breaking-poll-shows-two-thirds-americans-agree-trump-anti-military-nfl/

    New poll on the nfl take a knee controversy.

  72. Bitterlaw says:

    MD thinks that Trump is a racist who doesn’t care if Puerto Ricans die.

    https://twitter.com/formmb?lang=en

  73. JulStol says:

    Meanwhile, I’m very much looking forward to having Senator Moore. Strange was actually okay in my book but Moore is quite literally a crusader.

  74. Mr.Vito says:

    MD used to stand for truth… I think he’s taken a knee.

  75. DW says:

    Had we known five years ago that athletes and politicians all over the place were taking a knee, we would have thought that everyone has followed Tebow.

  76. Waingro says:

    @DanaBashCNN @allahpundit @SenateMajLdr

    “Gop Sources :@SenateMajLdr and gop senators agreeing inside lunch now NOT to vote on Graham Cassidy. It’s officially dead.”

  77. Tina says:

    So wrong on pierto rico.

  78. Phil says:

    MD and Arthur need to get a room.

  79. NYCmike says:

    “MD and Arthur need to get a room.”

    -“CG”,

    Would this be morally acceptable to you?

  80. NYCmike says:

    Ryan – why equivocate at all?

    Of course people are allowed to protest…on their own time.

    Employees are NOT allowed to protest whenever they feel like it.

    Just speak like a normal person, you j*ck*ss.

  81. Tina says:

    The portland bakery couple that lost their business should have just taken a knee.

    They refused to bank a cake on their personal, religious beliefs.

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    Why do I have to keep explaining this very simple concept?

    1. You do have the right to protest at work.

    2. You do not have the right to avoid the consequences of protesting at work.

  83. Tina says:

    Chicago police that kneeled will be reprimanded.

    They did the kneel while on duty. No 1st amendment right there.

  84. Tina says:

    Jamie Dupree @jamiedupree
    ·
    56m
    Replying to @jamiedupree
    The bottom line is simple: Republicans don’t have the votes for the Graham-Cassidy plan, or any other health plan

    7 years to do this and a failure, Mitchie needs to step down.

  85. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The NFL is taking it from all sides. Perhaps if early on the NFL had said our rules prohibit players from not standing and respecting the national anthem, and any player who violates the rule will be suspended.
    __________________

    “NFL voices are too loud on ‘unity,’ too quiet on police brutality.”

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl-national-anthem-trump-players-kneeling-protests-unity-police-brutality/1mk620m88qbc01pqx55doc84kl

  86. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump should tell McCain, Collins, and Murkowski to submit their plan so we can see what it looks like, or admit they won’t support anything.

  87. Tina says:

    The polling on the nfl issue is horrible for the drats.

  88. NYCmike says:

    I saw comments by San Antonio Coach Popovich earlier……..as a person with a less dark complexion, I am “starting on the 50 meter line in the 100 meter dash” or some such nonsense.

    He is becoming a real bore without Tim Duncan around.

  89. DW says:

    96 – and hopefully the SPENDING on the NFL will be horrible in the weeks to come.

  90. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    I mentioned that back in July……I was hoping Bitterlaw would have contacted them by now, since he kept defending them back then.

  91. Mr.Vito says:

    I would say the same for Paul, Lee, and Cruz, except they did submit various plans, correct?

  92. NYCmike says:

    YES, all 3 have plans which the “leadership” refuse to put up for a vote (kind of like Cotton/Perdue on a different issue).

    Also, Cruz and Lee voted YAY in July……

  93. Mr.Vito says:

    Gallup released Sept6-10 party affiliation as 47-45 D-R. Aug2-6 was +3D… much worse for Ds than the June/July sample weeks released.

  94. Trump says:

    “Tina says:
    September 26, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/breaking-poll-shows-two-thirds-americans-agree-trump-anti-military-nfl/

    Any more questions why Trump tweets about the NFL?

    BLM thugs vs America.

    Cruising to re-election.

  95. NYCmike says:

    If those “party affiliation” numbers are to be believed, “Republicans” should be very happy with Trump, as he is the only one driving narratives which benefit the Republican Party.

    #TakeAKnee vs #StandForTheAnthem being Exhibit A.

  96. Wes says:

    So MichiganGuy and Mikey openly support the guy who violates the Constitution in favor of theocracy.

    I’m not at all surprised.

  97. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, no stopping a winning train:

    “U.S. President Donald Trump ramped up his fight with the National Football League on Tuesday, calling on the league to ban players from kneeling in protest at games while the national anthem is played.”

  98. Trump says:

    And more:

    “Trump border wall construction begins”

  99. Wes says:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    I thought the Constitution was sacrosanct to conservatives. Obviously not. The 14th Amendment makes all aspects of the Constitution applicable to the states, yet Roy Moore defied that in favor of his establishment of evangelical Christianity in Alabama.

    So much for so-called “conservatives” and their supporting the Constitution.

  100. Trump says:

    The Trump administration appears to be the most competent and effective administration ever.

    Everything that is the purview of the Administration runs like a well-oiled machine.

    Oil pipeline approvals, regulations, responses to natural disasters et al.

    If only the lying, corrupt, f’cking morons in GOP congress could deliver on their promises.

    “SENATE PULLS PLUG ON REPEAL…”

  101. GPO says:

    Corker announces retirement

  102. Wes says:

    That will lead to a scramble for the seat, GPO. The TNDP is all but defunct and couldn’t win the open seat in 2006 of all years. Whatever Republican wins the nomination will hold it easily in 2018.

  103. Tina says:

    Yes mullah corker gone.

    A disaster.

  104. Tina says:

    Roger stone tears down the muh russian house sheot committee.

  105. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    If you believe the people of Alabama are making the wrong decision, go ahead and say so.

    I support their right to pick the person they think will represent them the best, and since Moore is eligible for the seat, why should I tell them they are wrong.

    I will also repeat, for you personally, I do not care who wins the primary, as long as the Republican beats the Democrat in the general election. Please try a little harder to NOT misrepresent my position.

    Thanks in advance.

    And when was your wedding date?

  106. NYCmike says:

    “Whatever Republican wins the nomination will hold it easily in 2018.”

    -Considering that you said Moore could be defeated in Alabama by the Democrat, we may have to take this endorsement for what it is worth.

  107. Tina says:

    Eli Yokley ? @eyokley
    .@LindseyGrahamSC says of Obamacare repeal, “we’re coming back to this after taxes.” (!)
    11:24 AM – Sep 26, 2017

    Yeah goober phiq up,taxes too.

  108. Wes says:

    Actually, Mikey, you grossly mischaracterize what I said.

    What I did say was that Moore was the only Republican Democrats could hope to defeat in the general. As an example, I cited former Governor Fob James, whose political obsessions were identical to Moore’s and played a significant part in his 1998 defeat for reelection.

    You really should pay attention in the future.

    Let’s also not forget while literally every other Republican running statewide in Alabama in the past decade has won in a landslide, Moore barely won reelection as Chief Justice by a 52-48 margin and was twice removed from office for violating both the state and federal Constitution.

    He’s a real gem of a politician, that Roy Moore. 🙄

  109. Bitterlaw says:

    I support their right to pick the person they think will represent them the best…unless we are talking about Arizona. Then I will demand the resignation of their Senators so they can be replaced by people I deem to be better suited for Arizona from my all knowing perch in New York.

    I fixed it for NYC.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Stop asking about Wes’ wedding. I don’t think that it will ever happen and we won’t be invited if it does.

  111. NYCmike says:

    “What I did say was that Moore was the only Republican Democrats could hope to defeat in the general.”

    -Polls say otherwise…..we shall see if they are true.

    I did not pick Moore over the other candidates.

    Please stop saying otherwise.

  112. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    When did I ever demand a resignation of any Senator?

    Please enlighten me.

  113. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    The only reason I do ask is because his mental state has been somewhat off since he said he was going to get married, but then nothing happened.

    I want to make sure that his hostility is real, or if he is reacting to a bad spot in his personal life with internet vitriol.

  114. mnw says:

    MO Senate:

    MO AG Josh Hawley (R) IS running against McCaskill, according to top GOP fundraiser Sam Fox.

    Fox stated that in writing, as a FACT, not a guess, & asks invitees to his FR Sunday to make their checks payable to “Hawley for Senate” ($10000/couple, if you happen to be in St. Louis on Sunday, btw).

    This had long been discussed, so it may not be news here. However, I never took it as a given, & Hawley has not confirmed.

    Well, Sky Queen… this could be all for YOU.

  115. Wes says:

    That’s good to hear, Mnw. Hawley led Air Claire 50-45 in the last poll and doesn’t look like another Akin.

  116. Wes says:

    Hey, Mikey, Senator Coakley says hello.

  117. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I thought that you wanted McCain and Flake replaced. The only way to do that for McCain is that he resigns or dies. The only way that Flake leaves is to resign, be defeated in the primary or lose the General Election. If I overstated your method on how to remove them, I’m sorry. GFY.

  118. Bitterlaw says:

    Flake could also choose not to run but that is similar to resignation in effect if not by definition.

  119. Wes says:

    From the wikipedia article about Fob James:

    James was frequently criticized for the influence his religious beliefs had over his governing. At a 1995 Alabama State Board of Education meeting, James criticized the teaching of evolution in textbooks by imitating a “slump-shouldered ape turning into an upright human”.[10] He supported the adoption of a textbook warning sticker that stated, among other things, that “No one was present when life first appeared on earth. Therefore, any statement about life’s origins should be considered as theory, not fact.”[11]

    James’s longest and most publicized religious battle was the controversy surrounding the posting of the Ten Commandments and the offering of a daily prayer in the courtroom of Etowah County Judge Roy S. Moore. In a suit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union, U.S. District Court Dudge Ira DeMent, an appointee of President George H. W. Bush, ordered the removal of the commandment plaque and cessation of the prayers because they violated the First Amendment guarantee of separation of church and state. Judge Moore appealed the decision, and James supported his position, threatening for a brief period to mobilize the Alabama National Guard and use force if necessary to prevent the removal of the Ten Commandments plaque from Moore’s courtroom. In October 1997, Judge DeMent issued another sweeping and controversial order forbidding certain religious practices in DeKalb County’s public schools. James verbally attacked DeMent’s order as yet another illegitimate intrusion by federal courts into local affairs. The judge’s order was, in part, reversed shortly after James left office, allowing students on their own to hold religious meetings on school grounds.

  120. Wes says:

    I actually hope Flake retires so DeWit can have a freer shot at Ward, Bitter.

    That woman is a ghoul and would definitely lose the election

  121. NYCmike says:

    I support primaries.

    If a person wants to retire/resign, that is their decision, as I don’t think (not sure) recalls are allowed.

    McCain, considering his age, and if his cancer is as aggressive as they say, should look to retire to take care of his health. I wish him well in his battle. I wish he would also stop voting with Chuck Schumer.

  122. Tina says:

    Possible corker replacements.

    Peyton Manning

    Marsha blackburn

  123. Wes says:

    I support primaries–except in Utah where the Senator I don’t like might win.

    There. I fixed it for you, Mikey.

    You’re welcome.

  124. NYCmike says:

    Oh Lord……Wes is back to Utah…..go get a stripper to take her clothes off for you.

  125. Trump says:

    “Sen. Bob Corker will not seek re-election next year”

    Some idiot to start babbling about “92% of incumbents win re-election” cra&.

  126. Trump says:

    Roy Moore appears to be the best that the Alabama Republicans have.

  127. Trump says:

    8 percent job approval rating rearing its head.

  128. Jonesy says:

    The Senate GOP is pathetic. They would lose the vote on Healthcare, but at least they would get the Dem Red State Senators on record voting no. Why bother. They will never pass tax reform.

    McCain the adulterer will make sure of that

  129. Jonesy says:

    Wes, with all due respect. Why should I even care about the 2018 Senate Races? They have all the power now, and cant even pass anything.

    Wes, if Ginsberg or Breyer left SCOTUS, do you think the Senate GOP could even get another conservative to replace at this point?

  130. NYCmike says:

    Jonesy,

    You are being a real Debbie Downer.

  131. NYCmike says:

    “Wes, if Ginsberg or Breyer left SCOTUS, do you think the Senate GOP could even get another conservative to replace at this point?”

    -Yes, I think they would, as long as Trump nominates one.

  132. Phil says:

    Corker gone?

    Great news. Glad he will be gone. Hope Alexander goes next.

  133. Wes says:

    In a rare moment of lucidity, Mikey has it right:

    Judges are where Senate Republicans have been strongest. McConnell nixed the filibuster to ensure Republican Justices can get through. That’s the Republicans’ bargaining chip, and they’ve shown no signs of surrendering it.

  134. Wes says:

    Phil, Alexander will be 80 when his seat opens up. I would expect to see him at the top of retirement watchlists.

  135. NYCmike says:

    Corker retiring makes me believe he will run for Governor.

    Wasn’t it said earlier in the year him and Haslam (?) wanted to switch spots?

  136. Phil says:

    Wes, thanks for the info, didn’t realize he was that old.

  137. Phil says:

    Last time I looked Alexander was working with Patty Murray on healthcare.

    What a fool.

  138. Jonesy says:

    141. Really Mike? You have n0 problem with Obamacare, and its 10k deductibles and 400% premium rises

  139. Jonesy says:

    Haslam is to the left of Corker. His fool brother owns the Cleveland Browns.

  140. Jonesy says:

    Wes, i have always given McConnell credit on the Judges, thankfully we have a warrior in Grassley who keeps the GOP Moderates to the fire at the Judiciary.

    John Roberts proves that we cannot count on the Judges either

  141. Jonesy says:

    Here we go Mike.

    allahpundit

    McCain wants bi partisan effort that can get 60 votes for Tax Reform. He is already a NO.

  142. NYCmike says:

    I have a huge problem with Obamacare…..what does that have to do with throwing in the towel and allowing Democrats, who are the ones who voted FOR Obamacare, to gain numbers in the Senate?

    Republicans s*ck! But Democrats are way worse.

  143. Gpo says:

    McCain the adulterer will make sure of that

    Jonesy says:
    September 26, 2017 at 5:27 pm
    . Why should I even care about the 2018 Senate Races? They have all the power now, and cant even pass anything.

    I think the answer is obvious – the only way for Obamacare to go is to replace red states democrats and make these other scumbags irrelevant

  144. Phil says:

    Man, I had no idea Haslam’s brother owned the Browns.

    What a disaster his brother would be in the Senate. Rino for sure.

  145. Jonesy says:

    GPO, that is well said, but I am very pissed off today and frustrated.

    Just awful that Collins, McStain, and Murk have all the power until at least January 2019

  146. DW says:

    So far the only vote in life I regret and wish I could take back was McCain in 2008–he was going to get blown out anyway, and I regret wasting my vote on such a despicable politician.

    I respect his military service. But as a politician he is a despicable person.

  147. Jonesy says:

    155. Agreed Phil. A strong woman like Blackburn the best fit.

  148. Tina says:

    They will phuq up tax cuts. Ryano is trying tomend the real estate deduction. That is the posion pill.

  149. Jonesy says:

    DW, my late father, who served combat in Korea, hated McCain.

  150. Tina says:

    All because tru p will not kiss their arses and they were not prepared to lead.

  151. Jonesy says:

    Tina,sadly only way to get rid of Ryan, is to lose the House

  152. Tina says:

    There are a lot of regret the 2008 or did not cote in 2008 on this board.

  153. Jonesy says:

    Ryan holds the keys to the Money safe, GOP reps will never vote him out

  154. Trump says:

    “McCain wants bi partisan effort that can get 60 votes for Tax Reform. He is already a NO.”

    What else would anyone expect from Obama’s 2008 running mate?

  155. Jonesy says:

    McCain would not bring up Reverend Wright in 2008. If he did, it might have us some Senate seats, which we lost 8 of because McShame’s awful campaign

  156. Jonesy says:

    Phil, I truly believe, McConnell and Ryan do not want Trump to get a big win, except for Judges. They want Pence in 2020.

  157. Jonesy says:

    How long before Collins and McCain endorse the DEM against Roy Moore?

  158. Tgca says:

    Bitter 19

    I would love to discuss ABORTION but folks here got their priorities mixed up. Sooooooooo frustrating.. Arg!

  159. Tgca says:

    Agree with Jonesy. You just can’t let Obamacare completely fail and then blame the Dems for it. You have to have a plan too if it impacts numerous people. Millions could suffer no access or financial crisis for months. It would be like Katrina. We all know the local gov’t was the main cause of the debacle but that is not how people see it, especially when there’s a crisis. As the party in charge, you have to have some sort plan to address it.

    I’m ok with letting it fail as long as there is a back-up plan.

  160. Gpo says:

    Jonesy says:
    September 26, 2017 at 6:03 pm
    GPO, that is well said, but I am very pissed off today and frustrated.

    Just awful that Collins, McStain, and Murk have all the power until at least January 2019

    Ditto -so pissed as well – the more seats we gain the more irrelevant McCain et al become – if we hold even or lose seats they become more powerful

  161. Tgca says:

    Bitter 91

    The point you’re leaving out is that the NFL has rules on this already but are not enforcing them. I believe it’s because of identity politics. They’re fearful that they will look racist. They have made these calls of no free speech allowed with respect to religion, cancer, and even murdered police officers but give a pass on a grossly exaggerated issue impacting AA.

    That is cowardice!

  162. Tina says:

    Direct tv allowing for refunds for nfl sunday ticket, if oeople no longer want the national,felon league in home.

  163. Tgca says:

    Wes 106

    I see your point but also consider this happens daily in Congress. Politicians on both sides routinely disregard and violate laws to suit their politics. Not saying it’s ok, just saying singling out one guy when many others, including Republicans do it is not entirely fair.

  164. Tina says:

    Preliminary exits, per twitter,

    55 to 45 Moore.

    I womder what Lord Garbage states?

  165. lisab says:

    mueller is interviewing me next week

    i once drank vodka

  166. JC says:

    Jonesy says:
    September 26, 2017 at 6:03 pm
    GPO, that is well said, but I am very pissed off today and frustrated.

    Just awful that Collins, McStain, and Murk have all the power until at least January 2019
    ———————–

    And two of which from states Trump won.

  167. lisab says:

    Oxford University stabber avoids jail because of her ‘extraordinary’ potential

    An Oxford University student dubbed “too clever to go to prison” has walked free after stabbing her ex-boyfriend in a drug-fueled frenzy — but moaned that she can’t go clubbing without being recognized.

    Aspiring heart surgeon Lavinia Woodward ran out of court with a big smile on her face Monday after being handed a suspended sentence.

    Wearing a black suit and white blouse, she appeared in the glass-paneled dock before the judge at Oxford Crown Court.

    Flanked by a female security guard, she wept and dabbed her eyes with a tissue as the judge sentenced her to 10 months in prison, suspended for 18 months.

    Defense lawyer James Sturman urged the judge to give Woodward a conditional discharge due to her “unique vulnerability, remorse and good character.”

    He said: “She can’t even go to a nightclub in London, she’s so recognizable.”

    Judge Ian Pringle previously said a custodial sentence may be “too severe” because it could ruin Woodward’s promising medical career after she admitted to unlawfully wounding Cambridge University student Thomas Fairclough.

  168. NYCmike says:

    “TRUMP 2020 GETS A SHOT IN THE ARM: NBA Coach: ‘White People Especially’ Need To Be Made ‘Uncomfortable.’”

    -I see that Instapundit noticed Popovich as well!

  169. Wes says:

    I regret two votes, DW: GWB in 2000 and 2004.

    If I had a time machine, I’d go back to 2000 and ensure Gore got the DUI story out early enough to torpedo GWB.

    Bush destroyed the careers of several GOP Senators that cycle anyway–including the legendary Bill Roth–so seeing him fall with those whose electoral viability he was destroying would have been no big deal.

    He could continue to blow a hole in the Texas state budget the way he’d been doing for years while Republicans rallied around someone with a functioning brain to take Gore in 2004.

  170. NYCmike says:

    “Agree with Jonesy. You just can’t let Obamacare completely fail and then blame the Dems for it. ”

    -Tgca,

    If premiums go up again in January, Republicans can push for a bill then, and say we need these changes so that we can do something about these out-of-control premiums.

    Red-state Dems up for election would then have to choose their party over their country.

  171. Tgca says:

    DW 157

    Totally agreed. McCain is a traitor to his constituents and his party, and the American people because he knows how Obamacare will play out, and many will suffer. I say let’s change Congress health benefits and let Mac have his wife’s family pay for his healthcare.

    He is an 80 yo bitter dying man and can’t think of his constituency before his own ego. He just wants the attention from the MSM and Dems as he lives the spotlight.

    …and none of this BS on he earned the right being a POW. Being a POW does not earn you the right to be pure scum and harm others to purposely settle scores and bask in the media. Many POW have earned that label and time to add Mac to that list.

  172. Tina says:

    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/25/lebron-james-ohio-voted-trump-lack-education/

    I dont think a lot of people was educated.

    Lebronjames, per hot air

  173. Tina says:

    Is leveon hillary saying the oh voters are all dumb?

  174. Wes says:

    Maybe if Lebron spent less time meditating on the state of politics and more on readying his team for a championship series, he wouldn’t be 2-5 in the finals.

  175. bartman says:

    From a lifelong Tennessean:

    Know that Corker saw the writing on the wall. Had no chance of winning again. Haslam and Alexander are toast too. This is all surreal, Lamar was a good man but he’s so naive in 21st century politics. There’s no such thing as bi-partisanship anymore. Alexander never got the memo. His ass must be awfully sore.

  176. Phil says:

    I love Popovich.

    He’s the poster boy for lefty white guilt – a total fool.

    It’s morons like him that keep Trump going and the tool is too dense to know it. He’s part of the liberal elite who think they are smarter than the rest of us.

    They aren’t. Not even close.

  177. Phil says:

    186

    Who do ya’ll have in the wings?

  178. Tgca says:

    Tina

    I think it’s always silly when AA politicians or celebrities categorize groups and question their intellect. By far, AA are the greatest underperforming group in the US in education and have been for decades. Now I don’t believe it is because of genetics, but more complex issues like lost opportunities due to past racism and cultural identity, specifically the high out-of-wedlock birth rate.

    But my point is that it takes gall coming from one of the most uneducated groups in the US to question the education of others.

    That’s like Rosie O’Donnell putting down others for being fat and unattractive. But hey, Bitter is open to tasting the Rosie per his post last night so what do I know?

  179. Tina says:

    The survey appears to contradict the popular media narrative that public opinion was on the side of the players kneeling during the anthem. ESPN’s day-long coverage of Trump and the NFL on Monday was almost exclusively negative. (RELATED: Trump Has ESPN Thinking They’re Actually CNN)

    The poll results caused ESPN contributor Will Cain to wonder on Tuesday whether ESPN’s journalists are living in a “media bubble” that leaves them out of touch with public opinion.

  180. Mr.Vito says:

    Direct tv is offering Sunday Ticket refunds over the anthem protests.

  181. Wes says:

    Bartman, Haslam can’t run for reelection. Corker and Alexander won with about 65% of the vote last time. I’m not so sure any of them qualified as political “toast.”

  182. Tina says:

    Ar least that espn contributor is quesrioning espn formgoing full cnn

  183. Tina says:

    HAs coach tomlin made any more stupid comments today?

  184. NYCmike says:

    Hillary confirms it – Not only did Rudy save NYC, he then helped destroy Hillary.

    2008 would have been a lot different if not for his disastrous campaign idea of skipping Iowa and New Hampshire to focus on Florida, or whatever he did that year.

  185. NYCmike says:

    “The poll results caused ESPN contributor Will Cain to wonder on Tuesday whether ESPN’s journalists are living in a “media bubble” that leaves them out of touch with public opinion.”

    -Come on, this could NEVER happen!

  186. Phil says:

    Glenn Reynolds says it will be Peyton Manning if he wants it or Marsha Blackburn.

  187. Wes says:

    I read an article the other day claiming Bill Nelson has an advantage over Rick Scott in FL-Sen because Nelson believes in anthropomorphic global warming.

    Nelson may have an advantage, but does anyone seriously think the global warming issue will get him reelected?

  188. Phil says:

    Probably, Wes. Don’t underestimate the bubble these lefty Democrats – and Nelson is certainly one of them – live in.

  189. Tina says:

    It will take antifa ryan 3 weeks to finally accept trumps position, the position of two thirds of americans, on the nfl.

  190. Tina says:

    In fact, piglosi may state that ttrumps position is correct a day before ryan.

  191. Wes says:

    Err, anthropogenic, not anthropomorphic.

    Probably global warming gives Nelson an advantage, Phil?

    Or probably lefties think it gives him an advantage?

  192. Wes says:

    Of course anthropomorphic could be correct too. Lefties seem to think the environment alive. Tim from GA used to say global warming doesn’t care if you believe in it.

    I never understood how climatic phenomena were supposed to have feelings about anything, but then I knew all along Arthur Conan Doyle’s When the World Screamed was just a piece of imaginative fiction.

  193. Phil says:

    I meant probably Nelson believes it. When you live in Washington for twenty years, listen to fellow caucus members and Democratic staffers and attend the Georgetown dinner parties you are bound to get slanted views and believe them.

  194. bartman says:

    Tina,

    Mark my words……..Haslam and Alexander’s political careers are toast. No doubt in my mind. There is no GOP in the Volunteer State anymore. There’s only the big money donors that are as clueless as the the party. The first-time turnout of the pissed off in 2016 was just the beginning. The GOP is dead in the South. Conservatives need to break free and create a new party. He old guard is toast!

  195. Tina says:

    Hey bart,an, imthink it was phil,who,asked you the quesrion. Great input though and good to see you are still around.

  196. Mr.Vito says:

    FOXNEWS: A federal appeals court on Tuesday overturned the conviction of former New York state Senate leader Dean Skelos, dealing another blow to ex-U.S. attorney Preet Bharara’s prosecutorial record.

  197. Wes says:

    Let’s see…

    2 Senators

    1 Governor

    Lopsided majorities in boyh state legislative houses

    7 of 9 Congressmen

    I’d say the GOP is alive and well in Tennessee, Bartman.

    It may not be a version of the GOP you like, but it’s definitely there and very powerful locally.

  198. Phil says:

    Peyton Manning would be a shoe in against Haslam or anyone else. I don’t see him running, however. Marsha Blackburn would be my choice. I think she could narrowly beat Haslam.

    She would be good.

  199. Wes says:

    For those unaware, Skelos is not the dead wizard mentioned in Robert Howard’s Conan short stories but the former longtime President of the New York State Senate. He, Andrew Cuomo, and disgraced House Speaker Sheldon Silver were yhe proverbial “three men in the room” who dominated NY politics until Bharara began his anti-corruption crusade.

  200. Barrett says:

    #206 – Climate Change, real or not, is out of our control. People should spend less time debating it and spend more time/energy/money improving infrastructure when Hurricanes hit.

    Warmer water is fuel for Hurricanes. The water is warmer this year. It’s happened before. This is not a new phenomenon. In prehistoric times there were global hurricanes.

  201. Barrett says:

    To add to that, it’s arrogant of environmentalists to assume that we have the ability to destroy our planet in such a short period of time. It’s been around for a pretty long time. Not even full on Nuclear War would remove life from this planet.

  202. Wes says:

    Personally I’d like to see Peyton Manning challenge Mike Bennet in Colorado rather than run for an already safely GOP seat in Tennessee.

  203. Wes says:

    I agree, Barrett. The Left has made this a cause celebre–except when it conflicts with their personal lifestyles.

  204. Barrett says:

    Which is sad, because I never find a hurricane cause to celebrate. Especially with Family in Tampa in Palm Beach.

    Glad to see everyone is doing well here.

  205. Wes says:

    Recently I saw dome hippie on YouTube in a review of an unproduced script for Dune say–and I quote–“Global warming is a tjing, and it’s the greatest threat our planet has ever experienced.”

    I don’t knos.

    Maybe the asteroid that triggered the Mesozoic ELE or Krakatoa–which triggered extended global COOLING–or a collision with any of the comets that travel within a few thousand miles of us might be or have been a bigger threat than global warming.

    By the way, Frank Herbert, the author of Dune, was an environmentalist but didn’t take the leftist view of anthropogenic climate control. In both Dune and the later Pandora sequence, Herbert made it clear human efforts, while capable of affecting local biomes, were insufficient to trigger planetwide destruction.

  206. Wes says:

    Some*

    Thing*

    Know*

  207. Wes says:

    “When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong – faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.”
    ? Frank Herbert, Dune

    Sound like anyone to you?

    No, I’m not referring to Roy Moore either.

  208. Bitterlaw says:

    McCain would not bring up Reverend Wright in 2008. If he did, it might have us some Senate seats, which we lost 8 of because McShame’s awful campaign

    Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. The lie that nobody knew about Reverend Wright in 2008 will never die. Everybody knew about it. The only people who cared were the ones who were never going to vote for Obama.

  209. Trump says:

    If folks have problem with Roy Moore in the senate, wait till Kid Rock gets there in 2019.

  210. Tina says:

    Cook,calls the race for moore.

  211. MichiganGuy says:

    Congratulations to Senator Roy Moore. Suck it haters!

  212. JeffP says:

    Kid Rock would win Michigan. Seriously.

  213. JeffP says:

    When is Manchin turning R anyway?

  214. Trump says:

    Where is that poll showing Strange within a point of Moore?

    US SENATE – ALABAMA – GOP PRIMARY RUNOFF (VSC)
    Roy Moore 41%
    Luther Strange (inc) 40%

    The latest lie from Mitch McConnell.

  215. Trump says:

    Anyone think Flake and Heller survive?

  216. bartman says:

    You have no idea Wes. GOP is winning because of the lack of an alternative. Like every other state our GOP is becoming king a bunch of p&$$/;$. I’m telling you people I’ve never known to vote showed up for Trump and union auto workers did too. Things are upside down in the south. How dumb does anyone have be to not see that it’s always going to be the safe or retiring republican that screws the wishes of the conservatives.

  217. Phil says:

    NYT calls it for Moore with 42% in.

  218. Trump says:

    Bannon has targeted 5 GOP incumbents for defeat.

    2 down, 3 to go.

  219. Trump says:

    McConnell spent $10m+ to prop up Strange.

    Waste of money.

  220. Wes says:

    I see MG’s preoccupation with establishing a fundamentalist Christian theocracy in the US has found an adherent in Roy Moore.

  221. Trump says:

    Apparently that’s what people of Alabama want.

    Someone should have run against Moore.

  222. Phil says:

    Hopefully Heller survives. The seat goes to a liberal D if not. Sometimes you have to go with the best you can get. Don’t want to give Schumer another vote to work with in the Senate.

  223. Phil says:

    Flake?

    Uh, no.

  224. Wes says:

    That’s what the Republicans in Alabama put up, Trump.

    There’s still another step to go in the election.

  225. Phil says:

    The seat stays red, but this guy is an embarrassment.

  226. Wes says:

    Most likely, Phil.

    Moore is the GOP’s version of Liz Warren:

    He’ll probably win, but he represents the worst the party has to offer.

    I’m glad I don’t live in Alabama.

  227. MichiganGuy says:

    Wes, doesn’t know Alabama is a red state.Senator Roy Moore guaranteed

  228. Wes says:

    Michigan Guy is too stupid to know history or read what I read even though my post is directly above his.

  229. Bitterlaw says:

    Great. A new Birther in the Senate.

  230. Tina says:

    If flake wins the primary, he could lose the senate seat.

    The az senate seat is of a concern,,no matter which r gets the nomination.

  231. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m glad I don’t live in Alabama.

    Wes and I finally agree. I’m glad that I don’t live in Alabama, either.

  232. Trump says:

    As a matter of public service, every mother fu ck er should get a primary challenge.

  233. Wes says:

    Michigan Guy is happy because he thinks Moore will be more successful in ending the First Amendment provision prohibiting a state religion as Senator than as Chief Justice.

  234. Trump says:

    Michigan Guy is happy that Roy Moore is a kick in McConnell’s ass.

  235. Trump says:

    8 percent approval rating does strange things.

  236. Trump says:

    I think Trump’s low approval rating in Alabama sank Luthar Strange.

    Ha ha ha ha ha

  237. Wes says:

    Trump openly backed Strange.

    That’s something the Trumpkins conveniently forget.

  238. NYCmike says:

    Repeat that please: McConnell spent a lot of $$ on a race in which Roy Moore had the lead from the very beginning. Those were $$$ which could have been used AGAINST DEMOCRATS, yet many of the HHR folks are NOT questioning Mitchie’s agenda.

    Why did he waste those $$$ on a race that was, PREDICTABLY, NOT CLOSE?

  239. Trump says:

    “Trump is hoping to win a loyalist in Strange, 64, who has openly backed Trump’s agenda.

    But Trump’s conservative base has signaled for months that it is not beholden to Republican leaders in Washington, and they could even break with the president in the Alabama race.

    Trump has hedged his bets, even suggesting in a campaign appearance Friday in Alabama that he “might have made a mistake” in endorsing Strange.

    “If his opponent wins, I’m going to be here campaigning like hell for him” in the general election, Trump said.

  240. Tina says:

    The Big Ugly continues

    Canadian Bombadier slapped with 220 percent countervailing duty.

  241. Trump says:

    Trump’s base is not blind.

  242. NYCmike says:

    I believe it was JC who explained Trump’s backing of Strange.

    Wes ignored it, I guess, or was just too busy yapping about something.

  243. Tina says:

    Was rhe numbee $9 million, $10 milliom, or $30 million. In either case, one has to question mitchie.

  244. Trump says:

    Trump’s base does not forget.

    Ask Marco Rubio.

  245. Trump says:

    That is why Trump’s base will ensure Flake’s and Heller’s defeat.

  246. Wes says:

    The same Marco Rubio who won reelection 52-44 while Trump won Florida 48-47.

    They must have forgotten something between March and November of last year.

  247. NYCmike says:

    #252 & #253 – there it is, the eeeeeevil Establishment vs normal people.

    one is made up B.S., while the other is common sense.

  248. Trump says:

    Trump’s base scared Corker out of his seat.

    Trump’s base will also carry Kid Rock to the Senate.

  249. NYCmike says:

    “That is why Trump’s base will ensure Flake’s and Heller’s defeat.”

    -If they are defeated, hopefully it will only be in the primary, so their opponent has a chance in the general.

  250. Trump says:

    Two different races, moron.

    What happened to Marco when he faced Trump?

  251. lisab says:

    Why did he waste those $$$ on a race that was, PREDICTABLY, NOT CLOSE?
    ————————————

    because the gop “establishment” leadership want people who will compromise with the democrats. on a 0 to 100 scale

    if 0 is Ted Cruz and 100 is Elizabeth Warren

    they want gop senators rated from about 50 to 60

    moore is about a 3.

  252. Trump says:

    Primary, general. Doesn’t matter.

    Trump’s base hates the two.

  253. Trump says:

    Just like Trump’s base hates BLM.

  254. JC says:

    JC says:
    September 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    As I’ve said before, I agree with PDT’s decision to support Strange for one reason.

    Whether he wins or looses, he will still be senator for the rest of the year. He will vote on healthcare. He will vote on taxes. He will vote on immigration. In a situation where every vote counts, why risk loosing an ally due to a bitter loss?

    I have no idea if Strange would vote against the president just out of petty revenge. But I know McCain did. I know others have.

    Moore, despite being off-putting, is more ideologically grounded. So Trump not supporting him in the primary wont cost him a vote. And should he beat Strange, Trump will offer his full support in the general to soothe over relations.
    ——————

    I still think Trump made the right decision. Strange will is still the senator for the rest of the year. Every vote counts.

  255. Wes says:

    There it is, my bitch. I knew you couldn’t resist.

    Now go off to your pegging session with Mommy/Auntie, my bitch.

  256. JC says:

    Trump says:
    September 26, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Trump’s base scared Corker out of his seat.

    Trump’s base will also carry Kid Rock to the Senate.
    ——————–

    And unseat Flake.

  257. lisab says:

    What happened to Marco when he faced Trump?
    ——————————————–

    rubio did not even survive chris christie

    that was a brutal take down by christie, rarely have i seen one politician take out another so quickly and skillfully

  258. Trump says:

    To further JC’s point:

    Trump in his own words – “Trump has hedged his bets, even suggesting in a campaign appearance Friday in Alabama that he “might have made a mistake” in endorsing Strange.

    “If his opponent wins, I’m going to be here campaigning like hell for him” in the general election, Trump said.

  259. JC says:

    And force Hatch out.

  260. Trump says:

    Go pimp your whatever whore to you dad, as*hole.

  261. Trump says:

    How much does your dad pay you and your whore, moron?

  262. Wes says:

    You’re too easy to stampede, my bitch. Far, far too easy.

    I wouldn’t expect anything else from a snot-nosed 9th grader who takes a vi brator up his ass from his mom/aunt.

  263. Trump says:

    I thought Trump’s popularity in Alabama was going to carry Strange.

    A half-educated pimp said so.

  264. lisab says:

    a large part of the gop base is far more conservative than the gop leadership.

    neither libertarians nor the religious right is comfortable with the ryans, rubios and mconnells who are the more corporate type republicans

  265. Trump says:

    The pimp does not understand that a senate race in one state against patrick murphy is not the same as a presidential race in 50 states against hillary clinton.

  266. Wes says:

    A liar as well as a product of incest who can only get a piece of ass from his mom/aunt.

    I never made a prediction on the primary, my bitch.

    Just out of curiosity, my bitch, at family reunions, do you introduce mommy and daddy as auntie and uncle since they also fill those roles?

  267. Trump says:

    How much do you charge your dad for your whore, pimp?

    Does he pay?

  268. NYCmike says:

    I should sell lube to Wes and Trump……

  269. Trump says:

    Meanwhile:

    Firebrand Moore wins Alabama Senate primary…

    Establishment rocked…

    More retirements likely…

    Primary every lying, corrupt mother fu cker.

  270. Trump says:

    This is what a whipped dog sounds like:

    ““Judge Roy Moore won this nomination fair and square and he has our support, as it is vital that we keep this seat in Republican hands.” said Steven Law, president of the Senate Leadership, a super PAC allied with Mr. McConnell that invested heavily in supporting Mr. Strange.”

  271. Trump says:

    Seven to one spending advantage. Plus backing of a popular president.

    “He was hurt, as well as helped, by the support of Mr. McConnell and other pillars of the GOP establishment. They gave Mr. Strange a huge financial advantage: His campaign and its outside supporters outspent Mr. Moore’s by about seven to one, according to an analysis by Issue One, a nonpartisan campaign finance group.”

    Not enough, when voters are against you.

  272. Bitterlaw says:

    Before NYC gets all excited over Poster Trump glee in 288, he should remember that he is not a Republican and the GOP destroyed.

  273. Trump says:

    Next primary to invade should be Orrin Hatch.

  274. Trump says:

    “After Alabama, GOP anti-establishment wing declares all-out war in 2018”

  275. Trump says:

    “The GOP primary victory by conservative firebrand Roy Moore over Sen. Luther Strange could also produce a stampede of Republican retirements in the coming months and an energized swarm of challengers.

    It marked yet another humiliation for the Washington-based Republican establishment, particularly Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), whose allies pumped millions of dollars into the race to prop up Strange and reassure his colleagues that they could survive the Trump era.”

  276. Trump says:

    “The tremors began before the polls closed in Alabama. Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), the chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee, announced on Tuesday afternoon that he would not seek reelection in 2018, dogged by complaints from conservatives in his state over his criticism of Trump.”

  277. Trump says:

    “On the eve of the election, Moore, wearing a white cowboy hat and a black leather vest, pulled a handgun out of his pocket and flashed it at a rally.”

    They say like it is a bad thing.

  278. Bitterlaw says:

    What happened to your predicted Hillary landslide, Trump Guru?

  279. Trump says:

    2 step process, idiot.

  280. MichiganGuy says:

    This is a great day for America.All the rhinos in here crying (wes.phil,waingro,jason) 🙂
    Congratulation to the honorable Senator Roy Moore.Congrats to Optimus polling spot on! Be scared you rhinos and establishment politicians your about to be primaried!Bring on 2018!

  281. Trump says:

    “Through three weeks, viewership for national telecasts of NFL games is down 11 percent this season compared to 2016, the Nielsen company said on Tuesday.”

    Yup, alienating your audience is the ticket to growth.

  282. Trump says:

    And 2016 was no picnic for NFL.

  283. Trump says:

    NFL 2016 ratings were down 9% from 2015.

  284. Phil says:

    299

    I’m a rino? Wes is a Rino? Jason too?

    Don’t read this site much do you?

  285. Trump says:

    “The Trump White House is gearing up to lay blame for a series of likely failures this week squarely at the feet of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), according to sources in and outside of the administration.”

    Delicious.

  286. Trump says:

    “The dual setbacks could have profound ramifications throughout the party, forcing it to reckon with a Republican electorate deeply upset with its inability to move an agenda and its own inability to get that agenda moved.”

    All these lying corrupt as*holes had to do was deliver on what they promised to deliver.

  287. Trump says:

    “Not only is the president looking to pre-ascribe blame to the Majority Leader, but allies outside the administration are planning to turn the upcoming congressional elections into a referendum on McConnell’s leadership. ”

    8 percent approval rating does wonders.

  288. Tina says:

    So, are the reports of mitchie blowing $30 million on Strange, correct?

    Incompetent if true.

  289. Bitterlaw says:

    A twice suspended Birther judge. Way to send a message, Alabama.

  290. Trump says:

    Moore is the best that the Alabama GOP has.

    Just as Trump is the best that the national GOP has.

  291. Trump says:

    And Kid Rock will be the best that MI GOP will have, if he decides to run.

  292. Trump says:

    It’s the next generation of GOP leadership.

  293. Trump says:

    “The Republican establishment is so weak that even when it has Trump on its side, as it did in Alabama, it can’t beat the Trumpers.”

  294. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw going after an army veteran who stood up to get elected……..

  295. NYCmike says:

    Good luck in the general election, Roger Moore.

  296. NYCmike says:

    I am sure Moneypenny will have some tricks to help you out.

  297. NYCmike says:

    It would have been better to have backed Mo Brooks, but it is what it is.

  298. GPO says:

    Why the hate for Heller by the way – when has he voted to screw us on any vote? If he loses that makes things harder to get done and puts it in a libs hands. Nominating Buck in Colorado gave us probably 30 years of Bennett. IMO getting rid of Heller does the same to Nevada

  299. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m happy to know that NYC supports a Birthers who believes that America deserved the terrorist attack in 2001 because God punished it.

  300. MichiganGuy says:

    I see the haters are still in doom and gloom mode. 🙂

  301. Trump says:

    Heller is doing a great job of getting rid of Heller.

  302. Tgca says:

    Dingbat from CNN proclaims “Finally, a reason to Watch the NFL Again.”

    Really? The reason to give the NFL govt subsidies and pay astronomical salaries is to watch people demonstrate their personal beliefs? This is the purpose of football?

    She claims freedom won, and Trump lost. Can she be anymore clueless?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/opinions/nfl-support-financial-opinion-jones/index.html

  303. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Are you saying, that if you lived in Alabama, you would NOT vote in the general election for Moore over the Democrat?

  304. Cash Cow TM says:

    Supreme court to take up some issues in October.

    http://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/gov-supreme-court-2017-fall-term.html
    ***********************************************
    How come Dianna Ross was never on the Supreme Court?

  305. Cash Cow TM says:

    But…but…but…I was told that there is no cost to provide government services for illegal aliens…

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8075-each-25000-in-ny/article/2635757

  306. Cash Cow TM says:

    Are they now going after Bitter, jason, and the other Philly A Holes?

    DRUDGE

    LABASH: Divided States of America: How to Stop Being an A–hole…

  307. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You know my answer to 324. I voted for scumbag Birther and Democrat donor Trump because he won the nomination.

  308. Bitterlaw says:

    Moore will be an embarrassment in the Senate but no worse than Trump as President. Voting GOP is not always easy but the other alternatives help Democrats.

  309. Tgca says:

    The vast majority of Congress critters are an embarrassment at one time or another. On the GOP side, McCain leads the pact. Maybe Moore will dethrone him in that effort. Time will tell.

  310. Phil says:

    Voting GOP is not always easy but the other alternatives help Democrats.

    Truer words have never been spoken.

  311. NYCmike says:

    A yearly deficit of $1 trillion, not to mention the ever-increasing unfunded liabilities and long-term debt, but Moore and Trump are the embarrassments!

  312. NYCmike says:

    CCCXXXIII

  313. NYCmike says:

    In regards to the House and Republican control, they did pass an Obamacare repeal bill, so they can go home to their constituents and say they did what they said they would.

    Why would the voters in these districts remove them, and replace them with Democrats, if they did their part as they said they would?

  314. NYCmike says:

    “There are 50 votes for the substance,” said Graham. “There are not 50 votes for the process.”

    As seen on Instapundit:

    “There were no warnings about “process” during the election campaigns of 2010, 2012, 2014, or 2016 — which makes “process” sound and awful lot like “dodge.””

  315. Mr.Vito says:

    If McConnell wanted Strange elected, his $30 million would have been better used to bribe Senator Limelight and Senator SnowQueen to pass health care replacement.

  316. Phil says:

    Congressman Al Green (Tx-D) has spoke up on the House floor this morning and indicated he will force a vote on the impeachment of Donald Trump. Due to a parliamentary rule the vote must take place within two days of the filing of the motion. It is considered a point of privilege according to the rules so Republicans can do nothing about stopping the vote from taking place.

    And so it begins….

  317. NYCmike says:

    It was Trump’s fault that the healthcare repeal failed again…… he keeps Tweeting!

  318. GPO says:

    Anyone have any idea who would be favored in a Nelson vs Scott matchup in Florida?

  319. NYCmike says:

    Will Obama make an appearance and sing another Al Green song?

  320. Tgca says:

    Yo Vito:
    336

    You’re so wrong. If you wanted passage Mac is too principled to take money…just offer him a war. That’s what excites Mac, WAR! WAR! WAR!

  321. Phil says:

    Can someone please tell me why a Republican tax bill would increase the bottom rate from 10 to 12 percent? How stupid are these morons running the Republican congress? Would raise little money and hand an absolute huge talking point to Schumer (and their poodles in the MSM).

    I give up.

  322. Tgca says:

    Phil
    337

    This is exactly what America want at this time…An impeachment vote …and the basis will be? Russia? NFL?

    These Dems are a gift to the GOP.

  323. Phil says:

    I agree impeachment is an absolutely dumbass move and even Democratic leaders don’t like it as a strategy. They know it. Green is from a hugely black district and is playing to his constituents. He is of little consequence.

    No, impeachment will not take place until Democrats gain 22 seats to capture the majority next year. Their prospects are no more than 50-50 as of right now to gain a narrow control.

    The last time Democrats had a majority in the House 2006-2010 it was a majority that had to include thirty or so moderate (blue frauds) from Republican leaning districts. No impeachment of W was possible because those blue dogs had to be mindful to their moderate to conservative voting constituencies.

    Here’s the thing, however. Those thirty or so were completely wiped out in the 2010 midterms. Any Democratic House Majority now will be completely and totally moonbat left. I suspect their pro impeachment number will be swelled a bit by a single digit number of Never Trump elitist Republican congressmen aiming to be called “heroes” by the MSM.

    What might save Trump an impeachment vote is 1) Pence is VP 2) they may believe it is more useful to have Trump in office with a mid 30s approval rating and the opportunity to run against an unpopular President in 2020 3) the fact that hey wouldn’t get a 2/3 conviction in the Senate anyway.

  324. NYCmike says:

    http://www.kausfiles.com/2017/09/27/5-reasons-why-moores-win-matters/

    -Reason #5 is especially important…..all the while, Cotton/Perdue sits on the shelf, not allowed to see the light of day.

  325. Tgca says:

    Impeachment would turn Indys against the Dems. No one wants this as a political tool because then this will start a precedent. To have 2 impeachments in 20 years would send a very bad signal and Dem leadership knows that. Just like Reid screwed up with changing filibuster rules, this will haunt them if they try to go down that road.

    Any GOP that votes for impeachment is done. The GOP will isolate and not support them financially. It’s just stupid suicide…but hey, who ever said Congress critters were not stupid or suicidal?

  326. Phil says:

    347

    certainly not me

  327. hugh says:

    Those in the lowest bracket are way ahead under this plan. It is not hard to understand what is being done.

  328. Phil says:

    I believe I read it doubles the standard deduction so sure.

    Think Schumer and the MSM are going to ever mention that? It will never see the light of day on the airways – that won’t be the case with the 10 – 12 percent bracket.

    Come on. We’ve seen this movie before.

  329. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    292. “Next primary to invade should be Orrin Hatch.”

    Utah is not Alabama. There is a off-year congressional election taking place in November. The Republican candidate who won in the primary was a moderate. He defeated a more far right candidate in the primary.

    Hatch may retire, and the overwhelming favorite to take his place is Romney.

  330. hugh says:

    in this case, i think it is very simple so it can be explained even with all the spin. might be wrong

  331. Trump says:

    352: That’s what they thought about Robert Bennett.

  332. Cash Cow TM says:

    Just curious….

    For his short time in the U.S. Senate, what will be Luther Strange’s compensation package once he leaves congress.

    Anyone know?
    Cow too busy to look it up.

  333. DW says:

    “Cow too busy to look it up.”

    Free whole milk for a year?

  334. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt was invited to attend a meeting with a handful of Danish legislators who serve on a committee dealing with the EU.

    Here is what he told me…

    They are in U.S. for a few days and have spent all their time in D.C.–but wanted to go talk to normal people outside the beltway to pick our brains.

    They asked many important questions–about Trump, why 80% of WV voters voted for him, our economy, and mostly about international trade.

    They were concerned and anxious about a number of things Trump campaigned on including renegotiating trade agreements with other countries. We explained to them unfair trade is the issue and most of the connection with unfair trade revolves around issues with NAFTA, China and other Asian countries where they have nothing close to U.S. environmental and employment laws under which U.S. firms have to abide by–DJT not talking much about Denmark or the EU.

    They have 7 or 9 different political parties represented in Denmark legislature and I think this Danish delegation represented 4 of them–including one from the liberal party and one from the left wing party.

    Someone said to the left wing party guy that he must get along well with the liberal party guy sitting next to him. The far left was aghast and said “Oh no, we disagree on about every issue.”

    We tried to explain that liberal and left wing in the U.S. mean the same thing.

    They were amazed to learn that a Danish firm (Rockwool) has recently committed to building a many hundreds of millions of dollars manufacturing plant here in this part of WV. And that an Italian firm recently spent $750MM to upgrade a big cement quarry here in this county.

    Interesting meeting.
    The one blond, hot looking Danish staffer’s name was Henriette Bang.

    Bang.
    Oh yeah…

  335. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Cow too busy to look it up.”

    Free whole milk for a year?
    ____________
    Of course!
    (you pay shipping costs…)

  336. Mr.Vito says:

    The GOP Congress will provide you with manure for a whole year.

  337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    352. That’s what they thought about Robert Bennett.

    And what happened to Robert Bennett is why Utah now has a primary system. The polls showed that Bennett would have won by a wide margin in a primary.

    This year, the Republican convention supported another candidate who lost, receiving less than 1/3 of the vote.

  338. GPO says:

    Cow

    Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at the age of 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest three years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

  339. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Rick Scott(R) +2 over incumbent Dem. Bill Nelson in 2018 FL Senate race.
    http://floridapolitics.com/archives/245619-florida-chamber-poll-rick-scott-leads-bill-nelson-senate-race

  340. Wes says:

    He’s baaaaaaaaack…

    Chris McDaniel–the biggest sore loser in Senate history–views Roy Moore’s win as a call to arms and is exploring a challenge to Roger Wicker.

    I wonder if Wicker has a sick wife McDaniel can have photographed in her bed.

  341. Wes says:

    Are you sure, Sheeple?

    Every other poll I saw said Nelson was leading. If Scott can open up a lead early, that will be great news.

  342. Wes says:

    Well, damn.

    I guess Nelson isn’t going to win reelection on the global warming issue after all.

  343. Mr.Vito says:

    Talking about global warming causing hurricanes to real Floridians just pi$$es them off.

  344. Tgca says:

    Michelle Obama apparently thinks that folks should have a litmus test to vote for a candidate based on identity association.

    Women should vote for women?

    How about whites vote for whites then and blacks vote for blacks. Oh, Guess what! No one would know who your husband is then if that was the standard, and you would not be living the privilege life now.

    What an ignorant thing to say. It’s an insult to all identities because it suggests you must behave monolithically by identity. So much for diversity and inclusion.

    https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2017/09/27/michelle-obama-any-woman-who-voted-against-hillary-clinton-voted-against-their-own-voice

  345. Tgca says:

    Yo Vito
    366

    Anyone who would look at FL history going back since recorded records in the 1800s would see FL has been pummeled with hurricanes on a consistent basis, and the loss of life was much greater than today. Facts don’t matter though to some.

  346. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Spoke to Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys yesterday. Jerry is a winner who knows how to get things done. Players will stand for Country!

  347. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    369. As long as it does not involve the national anthem or disrespect for the flag; the players, with the owners permission, can kneel, bow down, tango or cha-chaa-cha any way they like. Using pom poms might enhance the visual effect.

  348. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Spoke to Roy Moore of Alabama last night for the first time. Sounds like a really great guy who ran a fantastic race. He will help to #MAGA!

    Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump

    Congratulations to Roy Moore on his Republican Primary win in Alabama. Luther Strange started way back & ran a good race. Roy, WIN in Dec!

  349. DW says:

    368 – I have been saying that to people for years, and the man-caused global warming zealots have no answer. There is a strip of sand here in VA Beach where they now have built hundreds of two and three story beachfront homes…but the sand was put here hundreds of years ago by what must have been a very nasty hurricane. And it was done LONG before the invention of the internal combustion engine.

  350. DW says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willoughby_Spit

    There is the article if anyone wants to read it. Hurricanes reshaping coastlines long before man-made pollution. How can it be?

  351. DW says:

    The left needs to protest against the history of all bad hurricanes before the industrial revolution. They don’t fit the narrative and should be banned from books and classrooms so the warnings about man-made global warming will be heeded.

  352. Jonesy says:

    Florida Chamber of Commerce

    US Senate

    Scott 47%
    Nelson 45%

  353. Jonesy says:

    Titus (D) will not run for Nevada Senate

  354. Jonesy says:

    Several Judicial Nominees already cleared by Committee and waiting Floor votes, and the Senate Confirms a treasury Deputy today instead.

    Ughhh. so slow

  355. Jonesy says:

    Marsha Blackburn -Tenn is in, will be the best female Senator the GOP has ever had.

  356. Wes says:

    Vito, Tgca, DW, in an article discussing the putative Scott-Nelson race I recently read, a poli sci professor claims Nelson has an advantage over Scott because of the former’s position on anthropogenic global warming.

    Personally I found the whole idea ludicrous because AGW has little to no impact on elections outside areas the Left already dominates anyway.

    Hollywood and the MSM might preach the so-called necessity of obsessive focus on the issue, but the average American has other priorities.

  357. Wes says:

    Dina Titus bows out. Jacky Rosen gets a coronation for her Senate nomination.

    Meanwhile, Dean Heller–who’s done absolutely nothing but be loyal to his party and President while representing his state well–gets a divisive, money-draining primary challenge from a perennial loser with a laundry list of financial problems that will make him a guaranteed loser again.

    You just can’t fix stupid, as evidenced by Danny Tarkanian.

  358. Jonesy says:

    Wes, it is the UNLV Basketball thing. He is living off his father’s name.

    Is Rosen a Carpetbagger?

  359. Jonesy says:

    Nelson is in his mid 70’s ,and in for the fight of his life with Billionaire Scott.

    No easy prey like Katherine Harris

  360. Wes says:

    Roy Moore is now officially the luckiest man in the world:

    Doug Jones just announced support abortion till birth and says he wouldn’t have voted for Sessions to be AG.

    Merry Christmas, Roy.

    You’re facing someone even stupider than you in this election.

  361. Wes says:

    By the way, the Paulbots have invaded RRH and are busy saying Afghanistan–you know, the place where bin Laden had Al Qaeda headquartered–had nothing to do with 9/11.

    :facepalm:

  362. Wes says:

    Blackburn is running for Senate.

    Haslam is likely out.

    Manning is considering.

    That sounds pretty typical of 2010s American politics.

  363. Wes says:

    Jacky Rosen was born in Chicago, Jonesy. I doubt that much matters since Nevada has a large influx of people from other states. John Ensign was born in California for example.

  364. NYCmike says:

    California-Nevada = Illinois-Nevada.

    New York-New Jersey = New York-Texas.

  365. NYCmike says:

    http://freebeacon.com/culture/lingerie-football-league-responds-to-nfl-we-stand/

    -Now this is a league to get behind…..literally and figuratively!

  366. Hugh says:

    Nelson’s Botox and plastic surgery makes him look like an75 year old former Miami stripper. Scott did a great job on the hurricane. Nelson is toast.

  367. Wes says:

    Let’s see, Mikey…

    Here are Nevada’s last seven Senators and their birthplaces in reverse order:

    Cortez Masto-Nevada

    Heller-Nevada

    Ensign-California

    Bryan-Washington, DC

    Reid-Nevada

    Hecht-Missouri

    Laxalt-California

  368. Wes says:

    I don’t want Rosen to win, but Nevada seems to have no problem electing proverbial carpetbaggers to the Senate.

  369. Wes says:

    I hope you’re right, Hugh. Scott has been a remarkably able and successful Governor. Having him as Senator rather than Nelson would be a boon to the country.

  370. Gpo says:

    The heller stuff blows me away – a dem leaning state and as far as I can tell never screwed us – why the hell do people want him gone

  371. Phil says:

    Wes, Jones really said all that? Does he think he’s running for the senate in Vermont?

    I can’t hardly believe that.

  372. Phil says:

    Marsha Blackburn will be a wonderful senator. Peyton isn’t running and she is a shoe in.

  373. Tina says:

    Doug jones is dine before he started.

    Stupid to dump on sessioms.

  374. Bitterlaw says:

    Watching The Vietnam War. Watching Kerry’s testimony before Congress is still sickening.

  375. Bitterlaw says:

    CD

  376. Bitterlaw says:

    The Draft Dodgers who went to Canada should have been left to die up there. Unfortunately, they were allowed back.

  377. Bitterlaw says:

    Even a Marine who later opposed the war was visibly fuming over that traitorous bitch, Jane Fonda.

  378. Tina says:

    Stubhub announces 10 percent discount on nfl tickets.

  379. Tina says:

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=371755

    Ace evolves the muh russian hoax.

    It is now muh russian, race relations ad.

  380. Tina says:

    The Black Lives Matter ad appeared on Facebook at some point in late 2015 or early 2016, the sources said. The sources said it appears the ad was meant to appear both as supporting Black Lives Matter but also could be seen as portraying the group as threatening to some residents of Baltimore and Ferguson.

    Lol, actually it is a pro hillary ad from the russians

  381. Robbie says:

    Congrats Trump chumps. Steve Bannon is trying to recruit moron Senate candidates in at least SEVEN states. That includes Missouri where he hopes to find someone to take on Josh Hawley. Brilliant.

    NYCMike must be so excited about the possibility of sending so many messages in 2018. In fact, his favorite idiot candidate Chris McDaniel looks like he’s going to run in Mississippi.

    SEND A MESSAGE!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/27/steve-bannon-alabama-republican-incumbents-2018-243233

  382. wvally says:

    testing

  383. Trump says:

    And you have a problem with that, cretin Robbie?

  384. Bitterlaw says:

    Are there really that many twice-suspended Birther judges who accept 9/11 asGod’s punishment to run in more Senate races?

  385. Trump says:

    Best the GOP has, morons.

  386. Trump says:

    Ask the GOP voters.

  387. Tina says:

    Paging Mueller, tou need to investigate her thighness and her russian fb ads.

  388. Trump says:

    I want to see how many more millions does McConnell wants to spend defending flake and heller.

  389. Trump says:

    Defending flake and heller against his own party voters, mind you.

  390. Tina says:

    Mitchie really soent $30 million?

    Wtf, incompetent.

  391. Trump says:

    $30m to defend against his own party’s voters.

    It would have been cheaper for the chinless turtle to actually pass what he promised he would pass.

  392. Trump says:

    At June end, the nrsc had $16m on hand, compared to $17m for Dscc.

    And nrsc donations have plunged to less than 2m in last two months, compared with 7m in February. Both large and small donors are withholding donations, due to failure of McConnell to get anything passed.

  393. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    is posting articles saying ALL Patriots WILL stand for national anthem at next game.

    And ALL Cowboys WILL stand…

  394. Trump says:

    Maybe McConnell should have used the $30m against Susan Collins.

  395. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    418. “DRUDGE is posting articles saying ALL Patriots WILL stand for national anthem at next game. And ALL Cowboys WILL stand…”

    The amazing power of one man’s twitter.

  396. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    402. “Even a Marine who later opposed the war was visibly fuming over that traitorous bitch, Jane Fonda.”

    Remember when after the Khmer Rouge took over Cambodia, Fonda reassured they would be benevolent and not harm the population. Then the Killing Fields happened, an over a million were slaughtered.

    Jane Fonda is a war criminal, an evil human being who betrayed her country.

  397. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    GOP is imploding. The donor class are selfish a**holes who won’t donate a dime unless the GOP explodes the deficit again by giving the rich tax cuts.

    The base is like tina and in a massive unending rage and will nominate more Todd Akins.

    Trump will have done more to destroy conservatism than even Dubya by the end of his presidency and that’s saying a lot.

    So congrats, Deadenders. You win … except you really don’t.

  398. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh Hefner dies. Wes hardest hit.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4927948/Hugh-Hefner-dies-aged-91.html

    RIP, Creepy old man.

  399. Bitterlaw says:

    I only said creepy because it was gross to see young women willing to be with him.

  400. JC says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 28, 2017 at 12:33 am

    418. “DRUDGE is posting articles saying ALL Patriots WILL stand for national anthem at next game. And ALL Cowboys WILL stand…”

    The amazing power of one man’s twitter.
    ————————–

    This is what happens when you stand up for your beliefs.

    Remember, the GOPe ‘smart set’ would have remained silent, too afraid of being ridiculed and called racist to push back against the leftist narrative. And in so doing, would have preemptively ceded the culture battle to the left once again.

    And because the younger generations would literally only hear the voice of leftism, that is the voice they would accept as truth. Allowing cultural marxism to go unanswered is how you get young people to believe that there are 32 genders, that it’s okay to ban ‘hate speech'(opinions they don’t like), or that America is institutionally racists. Instead of pushing back, our usual response is silence or a tepid shrug with ‘it’s their right to believe that’. And so we let the left win the minds of the younger generation.

  401. JC says:

    To add; We shouldn’t just be pushing back against this blatant disrespect of our flag, we should also be pushing back against the mountain of lies these ‘kneels’ are based on.

    How many times have we seen someone on the left claim these protest are because of police brutality, and the response on our side was simply ‘well, the field isn’t the place for politics’. It’s like we never push back against their false narratives.

    Not only should we denounce these protests on the field. We should denounce the reason of their protest as a pack of lies that they are.

    They claim that they’re kneeling because America/police are racists and target blacks. That’s BS. Statistically, verifiable proven BS. It’s liberal propaganda perpetuated by the media to convince blacks that they cannot succeed on their own and thus need government (democrats) to help them. And of course it works (90% vote for dems despite generally being socially conservative) because we always cede the narrative to them without ever pushing back.

    Blacks do have many societal problems. They are the worst performers in school. They commit the highest crimes. They make up the majority of the prison population (despite being only 15% of the total population). The reason for this are plenty; the destruction of the nuclear family. +70% of kids growing up without fathers. The denial of school choice. A culture that glorifies the ‘thug life’ and looks up to rappers and drug kingpins as something to strive for and emulate. Being grouped up in large urban cities that have had their jobs shipped overseas. A total dependence on government welfare that is designed to ensure that they stay on welfare for as long as possible. And the belief that they cannot succeed on their own merit because the entire world is out to get them.

    Basically, the result of decades of liberalism/marxism.

    Liberals have convinced blacks that not only can they not succeed, but that they shouldn’t even try.

    Every time a liberal pushes a lie about ‘police brutality’ or ‘institutional racism’ we should immediately respond by denouncing these lies and putting the blame where it truly belongs; on leftist ideology. Otherwise, people will accept the only narrative that they hear.

  402. Tina says:

    Antifa ryano says they git their 1st amendment rights.

    A day kate and a dollar short.

    Also, look how ryano is trying to sabotage the tax cut plan. He is for ending the real estate tax deduction.

  403. Bitterlaw says:

    Antifa has the First Amendment right to protest. They do not have the right to assault people and destroy property. Very simple concepts.

  404. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-republicans-to-propose-scrapping-state-and-local-deduction-in-tax-overhaul-2017-09-27

    Tina to criticize Trump for wanting to eliminate deductions for local and state taxes in…..Never.

  405. Mr.Vito says:

    I thought Republicans didn’t like deductions, and wanted a simple tax code instead.

  406. Mr.Vito says:

    Because of your local and state income tax deductions, we get to claim sales tax in Florida since we don’t have any.. You guys are deducting for goods and services you don’t know who gets. We bought an RV and a truck last year… know what the sales tax was on that?

    Thanks chumps. If you want fairness, I think you’d rather get rid of those deductions.

  407. Mr.Vito says:

    Definitely the sales tax ones…

  408. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito.- I will be 50 in less than 6 months. I now realize certain truths:

    There will never be a flat tax.

    There will never be a balanced budget amendment.

    Abortion will always be legal.

    The alleged and never defined Republican base will never be happy.

    Democrats always unite to try to win.

    Acceptance makes life easier.

  409. Hugh says:

    You do not get to deduct sales tax in Florida

  410. Mr.Vito says:

    I just bought a soda… cha-ching!

  411. Mr.Vito says:

    Yes, you do.

  412. Mr.Vito says:

    “If you file a Form 1040, and itemize deductions on Schedule A, you have the option of claiming either state and local income taxes or state and local sales taxes (you can’t claim both). If you saved your receipts throughout the year, you can add up the total amount of sales taxes you actually paid and claim that amount.”

    https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/sales-tax-deduction-calculator

  413. Mr.Vito says:

    https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901222-which-deduction-should-i-choose-sales-tax-or-income-tax

    For most people who itemize, the income tax deduction offers the bigger tax break.

    But, the sales tax deduction will probably benefit you more if you:

    Don’t pay income tax in your state (Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, or Wyoming)

  414. Mr.Vito says:

    #434 We recognize these truths to be self-evident.

  415. Mr.Vito says:

    If the GOP got rid of all the deductions and doubled the standard deduction, I’d be okay with that. The DNC says paying more taxes is patriotic anyway, right?

  416. Mr.Vito says:

    I would rather have a cut in government bureaucracy than a tax cut.

  417. Mr.Vito says:

    I would rather have a cut in insurance premiums and gas prices than a tax cut.

  418. NYCmike says:

    “Tina to criticize Trump for wanting to eliminate deductions for local and state taxes in…..Never.”

    -I would criticize Trump for proposing this if I saw that it was going to pass, and if, like Mr. Vito pointed out, we did NOT move towards a simpler FLAT tax.

    At this time, I would think that this proposal, which hurts people more in BLUE states with Democratic Senators (NY, CA, OR, NJ, MN, VT, HI for example), will be used as an item to be compromised with, since the main objective is to reduce the corporate tax (and maybe the number of tax brackets).

  419. Bitterlaw says:

    I would rather win a softball championship than have a tax cut.

  420. NYCmike says:

    And YES, I do think a doubling of the standard deduction would make this proposal more palatable (I’ll have to go over my taxes from the last couple of years).

  421. Mr.Vito says:

    #445 I would rather you won a softball championship than have a tax cut for myself. Can you put a price tag on Mr.Bitter having a happy face?

  422. Mr.Vito says:

    I will probably pay more taxes under this proposal, from what I hear… mortgage interest and charitable remain, sales tax gone, correct?

    How are property tax and work mileage treated?

  423. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe I’m the only person in America that thinks my effective tax rate is too low…

  424. NYCmike says:

    I might think that…….until I walk around NYC and see how the local, state, and federal government spends my money.

  425. GPO says:

    What allows Trump to let people to buy health insurance across state lines by EO. Im a a little shaky on what can and can not be done by EO

  426. NYCmike says:

    Good question, GPO.

    I do believe Trump could make Obamacare the law for ALL the DC critters, as Tina alludes to every now and then. That should be done immediately if true.

  427. Mr.Vito says:

    Chart of what every team did during the anthem.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKqwPOsVYAA8YTr.jpg:large

  428. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Now that the 2018 Senate races in Ohio and Florida are toss-ups for Dem. incumbents Brown and Nelson,respectively, what are the GOP chances in Penn. and Wisconsin with Republican candidates Barletta and Nicholson,respectively? Casey is the Dem. incumbent in PA and Baldwin in WI.

  429. NYCmike says:

    #406 – Robbie,

    Thanks for your DOOM prediction, it makes me feel better about our chances next year.

    Unlike Democrats, who just argue over how much more government is needed, Republican voters are still debating the issues and the best ways to figure out problems. That does lead, sometimes, to missed opportunities, but it also leads to a strong party which has control of the majority of the levers of power.

    That said, we as a party are still trying to figure out how this power translates into positive change (more freedom, less regulation, more opportunity). YES, I blame our Congressional leadership more than our President. The reason for this is simple: despite what some at HHR think, while the President can definitely influence legislation, there is no law, rule, procedure, etc that says Congress must listen to him at all (for example: repeal legislation was sent to Obama several times, which he vetoed). Congress should have sent the same exact legislation to Trump, and he would have signed it. BUT, alas, they did not do the wise, but BOLD thing, and instead acted like the politicians they are.

    I can’t guarantee we will ALL of the races we should win next year, but I can guarantee that Republican voters will be active participants in the process.

  430. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=DyLmru6no4U

    Instapundit had this on their page…..he is/was shameless!

  431. NYCmike says:

    **he** meaning Obama, NOT Glenn Reynolds

  432. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/28/us/amy-coney-barrett-nominee-religion.html?smid=tw-share

    -Robbie hates the Pope, then he has the President he hates picking judges who are devout Catholics……oh, the conundrums he must have while he is checking out hot ladies on the internet!

  433. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/09/27/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-comic-writer-tweets-death-gop/

    -I wonder how Wes feels about his comic book heroes going down this road.

  434. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    This place sounds like what hitler’s generals must’ve sounded like in his berlin bunker.

    Sad that most of you lack critical thinking skills and the ability to take personal responsibility for your own mistakes.

    Trump’s mind and heart is as empty as those who continue to support him.

    You blame the liberals and then the republican establishment you mostly voted for and now your annointed champion for failing you. Yet at the end of the day the fault lies in your own ig orance and hatred.

    The republican party is the party of old, white, ignorant, hateful people now. This is your political apex. Enjoy it while it lasts.

  435. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeplike – Senator Casey will be re-elected in Pennsylvania. Book it.

  436. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple. Damn autocorrect.

  437. Phil says:

    460

    LOL

    We have here another arrogant, condescending, self righteous lefty accusing the right of “hate”

    We had a GOP congressman finally return to the floor of the House today after being gunned down by a Democrat.

    Want to lecture us some more on hate?

  438. Walt says:

    “I would rather win a softball championship than have a tax cut.”
    ((((((((((((((((((
    I would rather have hope and not feel so helpless on many levels.

  439. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – You are not going to outgloom me. I own bitterness and despair here. Cheer up. You’re immortal. 10,000 years from now, you will look back on whatever bothers you now and realize that it wasn’t so bad.

  440. Tgca says:

    Bitter
    434

    Abortion will always be legal?

    FU dude!
    GFY!!!
    I HATE you!

  441. NYCmike says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/27/megyn-kellys-today-show-plagued-by-awkward-moments-and-offensive-remarks/

    -Is her contract guaranteed? Gosh, I hope so. Wonderful that NBC paid her so much!

  442. Tgca says:

    NYC
    468

    I saw the clip where Megyn offended Jane Fonda in front of Robert Redford and the audience. Clearly Hanoi Jane was perturbed when she was asked about her plastic surgery.

    I thought she might get down on her knees in protest.

  443. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    LOS ANGELES — “Half of likely California voters say Sen. Dianne Feinstein should not run for re-election, according to a new poll conducted by the Public Policy Institute of California.
    Forty-six percent of California adults and 50 percent of likely voters say Feinstein should not seek a sixth term, according to the poll. Yet the survey does not test Feinstein against any other potential candidate, and a majority of Democrats — 57 percent — say Feinstein should run again. Though Feinstein’s public approval rating has ticked down slightly from January, it stands at a relatively favorable 48 percent among California adults and 54 percent among likely voters.
    The poll comes as Feinstein sustains increased criticism from her party’s left flank, with the possibility of a Democratic challenger in next year’s election.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/28/dianne-feinstein-reelection-california-voters-skeptical-243229

    California elections are non-partisan. So a moderate independent could slip through on this one, it would have to be someone who was from outside the political establishment. The Republican Party in California is pretty much a waste land of crony capitalism and stale ideas.

  444. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The rumblings in California are that Feinstein will face a Sanders type challenger.

  445. Phil says:

    Just saw a clip from MTP of Jones the D candidate in Alabama telling Chuck Todd he is ok with abortion in the third trimester all the way to the birth of the baby.

    I really kind of thought Wes was exaggerating a little bit the Jones position. Nope.

    Shortest contested election in history. Won’t stop lefties from across the country from contributing to the Jones campaign, however. They cannot help themselves. Good. Drain their wallets. LOL

  446. Phil says:

    Feinstein is the best we art going to get from the moonbat state. At least she believes in national security to a point.

  447. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca = We can still talk about ABORTION.

  448. GPO says:

    are the R’s from blue states going to try to sink the tax bill because od statee tax deduction issue? Havent seen anything on it, but I would think they could easily?

  449. Cash Cow TM says:

    test

  450. Diamond Jim says:

    476 – You pass.

  451. Tgca says:

    Broncos cave in on anthem but try to spin it as a unity pledge. Bottom line, they kneeled, America booed, now they plan to stand going forward. If America wasn’t booing, they would still be kneeling. Trump wins again! Damn fools.

  452. NYCmike says:

    NFL ticket sales down 18%.

    They will stand.

    Trump rules! 🙂

    What a crazy world!

  453. Tgca says:

    What amazes me is that these SOBs brought it on themselves. Regardless of how you feel about politics or social issues, bringing that to a game where people pay exhorbirant prices to enjoy a recreational event and then forced to watch you protest something the vast majority do not agree with is just truly stupid. There were other constructive ways for them to exercise their views but they live in a bubble and are clueless how this would play out. Now they know!

    Spin it as you see fit with the unity BS but nearly two-thirds of the country was against you. It was a knee-jerk reaction that backfired.

    Again, Trump wins!

  454. Phil says:

    481

    Well put.

  455. Tina says:

    I love the moderate frankenstein.

    Not a nut job like babs boxah or eric holder 2.0.

  456. Tina says:

    Steelers will,stand.

    Did coach dumb dumb make that decision?

  457. Mr.Vito says:

    ” Regardless of how you feel about politics or social issues, bringing that to a game where people pay exhorbirant prices to enjoy a recreational event and then forced to watch you protest….”

    They started this with Pence at Hamilton.

  458. Tina says:

    Maybe with hands up don’t shoot? The tn titans and that wr, never crapper, then others.

  459. Tina says:

    Sinema enters contest to unseat fraud flake.

  460. Tina says:

    She is a drat and has to battle a. Ovody and a commie. She has me a bit worried, given flakes toxicity.

  461. wvally says:

    Cash Cow have you been getting moderated? Me too. Maybe a WV thing?

  462. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #487
    In the AZ 2018 Senate race, two polls released today show Sinema(D) +7 and +8 over Flake in the General Election.
    Pollingreport.com has the summary,but no links.One poll is an internal Dem. poll and the other is an internal R one.

  463. wvally says:

    “I would rather win a softball championship than have a tax cut.”

    I’ll take the tax cut, please!

  464. Tgca says:

    500! Yay!

  465. Tgca says:

    I am so busy today.

  466. Bitterlaw says:

    I will accept that ticket sales are down but where. Ost Eagles tickets are held by season ticket holders. The few thousand that are not are sold out in 10 minutes when they go on sale for the season.

  467. Bitterlaw says:

    So far on The Vietnam War:

    Many POWs’ marriages ended in divorce.

    One deserter who moved to Canada and renounced his citizenship. He regrets it today. F him. Bury his traitor corpse in Canada when he dies.

  468. wvally says:

    Jon Podheretz wrote an article that Oprah was the Dems best shot to beat Trump in 2020. It’s an interesting read.

    Democrats’ best hope for 2020: Oprah

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/27/democrats-best-hope-for-2020-oprah/amp/

    This is her reply on twitter:

    @jpodhoretz Thanks for your VOTE of confidence!

    https://twitter.com/oprah/status/913551310628184064

    ***

    Is O dropping a hint?

  469. Tgca says:

    I could not imagine Oprah running for POTUS. She is too high maintenance and drama and would be crying at every event. Besides, she would not give up her privileged primadonna lifestyle to mingle with the little folks.

  470. Tgca says:

    It is well known, that O, like many Hollywood elite go to great lengths to protect their privacy and hide their true selves from the public. She could not handle the constructive criticism that comes from day 1 once you announce because 50% are automatically opposed to you.

  471. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Cash Cow have you been getting moderated? Me too. Maybe a WV thing?”

    No, not having a problem with posting here.
    But the laptop has been acting funky.
    __________________________
    OK…

    Here is my epiphany, my brainy idea…could help solve ONE world problem…

    You recall during the Vietnam War that a Bhuddist monk or two set themselves on fire and committed suicide to protest SVN president Diem, etc. ?
    Remember how that helped to change public opinion about the war?

    THE WHACKADODDLE MUZZIE ISIS TERRORIST–ALL HOWEVER MANY THOUSAND–SHOULD ALL GO OUT TO THE DESERT AND DO A MASS SUICIDE AND BLOW THEMSELVES UP ON THE SAME DAY.

    JUST IMAGINE THE MESSAGE THAT WOULD SEND..THE IMPACT ON PUBLIC OPINION OF THEM AND THEIR GOALS!

    That is all…

  472. wvally says:

    Funny tweet:

    Never could’ve guessed in our country’s divorce, that the left would get custody of football

  473. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt was having a small group Bible study at his house this evening.

    It was about the shortest man in the Bible…

    KNEE-HIGH-MIAH*
    ____________________
    (*Nehemiah)

  474. Cash Cow TM says:

    wvally,

    not surprising, rly.

    The rich feetsball players are like rich hollywood leftists stars and other performers who are

    –extremely rich (in a country that has a system that GAVE THEM the opportunity to become filthy rich)
    –paid huge sums to endorse products and get people to buy what they endorse (hey, why not endorse cultural issues?)
    –have lots of fans that give them huge inflated egos and pumped up artificial importance
    –live a life far above the common person
    –surrounded by sycophants who tell them constantly how good and brilliant they are
    –have very little in depth knowledge of much of anything other than their trade
    –feel they are above the law and can torture dogs, beat their wives and girlfriends to a pulp, do suitcases full of do.pe, etc. and get away with it due to their stardom…
    –consider themselves “the elite”.

  475. Bitterlaw says:

    The Vietnam War ends with vets on both sides trying to find peace. They look to the future. They earned the right to feel that way. Personally, I don’t care what happens to that miserable country.

  476. Bitterlaw says:

    An anti-war activist said she felt terrible about how she treated returning soldiers. Too late, bitch. I don’t believe in redemption. You own your actions forever and can never be forgiven.

  477. lisab says:

    The rich feetsball players are like rich hollywood leftists stars and other performers who are

    –extremely rich (in a country that has a system that GAVE THEM the opportunity to become filthy rich)
    ———————————————-

    mmmmmmmmkay … and there are still huge inequalities in our country that they are correct to point out

    the way they are doing it is poor, but there are indeed huge inequalities

  478. lisab says:

    I don’t care what happens to that miserable country.
    —————————

    it is not that miserable

  479. Bitterlaw says:

    Good for the Communists, lisab. I don’t care if they all live or die.

  480. Wes says:

    Kirsten Sinema announces a run for Senate.

    On RRH, Paaulbots endorse Kelli Ward, thus confirming what we already knew–that Ward is the weakest available candidate.

    NYCMike no longer has to wonder and can now jerk his micropenis over the possibility that Ward will win the primary and, in so doing, ensure Chuck Schumer has a vote for Majority Leader from the Arizona Senate delegation.

  481. Bitterlaw says:

    How many of those inequalities are self-inflicted? The cold hard truth is that the consequences of bad choices are color-blind. Have children as a teenager and drop out of school regardless of race and there is a great chance that your life and the lives of your children will suck.

  482. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab is probably burning up google to “prove” that Vietnam is a great place to live.

  483. lisab says:

    Have children as a teenager and drop out of school regardless of race and there is a great chance that your life and the lives of your children will suck.
    ——————————————–

    Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent. 45.8 percent of young black children (under age 6) live in poverty, compared to 14.5 percent of white children.

  484. Wes says:

    Thank Lyndon Johnson for inflicting high poverty on the blacks. He gave so many an incentive to be on the public dole poverty is more appealing in many cases than working to improve one’s lot in life.

  485. lisab says:

    well, i’m not saying i’d like to build a summer home here, but the trees are actually quite lovely.

  486. lisab says:

    Poverty among blacks has fallen sharply: In 1966, two years after Johnson’s speech, four-in-ten (41.8%) of African-Americans were poor; blacks constituted nearly a third (31.1%) of all poor Americans. By 2012, poverty among African-Americans had fallen to 27.2% — still more than double the rate among whites (12.7%, 1.4 percentage points higher than in 1966).

  487. NYCmike says:

    Micropenis? LOL.

    I’ll get your tweezer back to you as soon as I can, Wes.

    Does the new child call you Dad, or That Guy From The Club?

  488. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – can you run those numbers again for only single family parents without a high school degree? I suspect that whites in that group have similarly bad lives as blacks and Hispanics.

  489. NYCmike says:

    In inner cities, children who live in single parent homes is like 70%. That is the largest single contributor to poverty. And, as Wes mentioned, the incentives are there for the single parent to stay that way.

    Disgusting, immoral, and debilitating.

  490. lisab says:

    what is a single family parent?

  491. NYCmike says:

    A formed sentence badly

  492. lisab says:

    And, as Wes mentioned, the incentives are there for the single parent to stay that way.
    ————————————–

    yes … i have mentioned before that my neighbor is a single mother of two and she lives quite well.

    free food, free apartment, free education, a welfare check and she gets to work under the table too …

    she is hardly in poverty, but has zero incentive to marry her baby-daddy, who she lives with

  493. lisab says:

    ironically her babby-daddy is a cop

  494. Tina says:

    Ticket sales are not down

    There is no booing

    Jebot

  495. lisab says:

    Low-Income Children Living in Single-Mother Families, by Race/Ethnicity, 2009

    white 35%
    black 66%
    native american 47%
    latino 35%
    asian 21%

  496. Cash Cow TM says:

    F Vietnam.

  497. Cash Cow TM says:

    F poverty.

  498. wvally says:

    Racial or ethnic group
    Percent of births considered “non-marital”
    2009
    Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders
    17 percent

    Non-Hispanic whites
    29 percent

    Hispanics
    53 percent

    American Indian and Native Alaskans
    66 percent

    Non-Hispanic blacks
    73 percent

    ****

    Yes, “there are indeed huge inequalities”

  499. Cash Cow TM says:

    F NFL

  500. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish Eagles ticket sales were down. I could go to the gams that have been sold out since July. The waiting list for season tickets is still over 50,000.

  501. lisab says:

    Yes, “there are indeed huge inequalities”
    ——————————————-

    indeed there are

    and since they are free citizens of these united states, some of the black players think that they should point out the huge inequalities that exist

    and while i disagree with their method, i have to agree that they are correct that indeed inequalities do exist between races

  502. wvally says:

    Black out of wedlock births are now approximately three times the level of black illegitimacy that existed when the War on Poverty began in 1964. Black incarceration rates have also tripled in that time. But “poverty” has decreased.

    Again, I blame Johnson’s policies which tied welfare, food stamps and public housing to single motherhood.

  503. wvally says:

    It is this issue, in particular, that turned me from a liberal to a conservative.

  504. Bitterlaw says:

    I will not pretend to know what it is like to be black.

    I will say that the protesting players completely destroyed any chance for their message to be heard as they intended. They want to be Rosa Parks but drive sports cars or ride in limos. They want to be Dr. King but the only reason they would be in the Birmingham jail would be if they beat up their girlfriend in Birmingham. They are Social Justice Warriors with no wars to fight so they need to declare war on problems that already have solutions.

  505. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab does not emphasize the self-destructive behavior of individuals.

    If I drink enough soda and take bad care of myself to the point that my kidneys fail or I lose my legs, will lisab proclaim that “huge inequalities” exist for the pancreas-challenged Americans or will she say , “Bitterlaw really deserved it.”

  506. lisab says:

    Again, I blame Johnson’s policies which tied welfare, food stamps and public housing to single motherhood.
    —————

    clearly it is financially better to be a single mother than to marry if you are poor, for both blacks and whites.

    that observation does not help address the current inequalities in wealth between the races.

  507. wvally says:

    that observation does not help address the current inequalities in wealth between the races

    ***

    a cultural renaissance is needed.

  508. lisab says:

    a cultural renaissance is needed.
    ————————————-

    and that translates to government policy how?

  509. wvally says:

    it does not translate into government policy at all.

  510. Bitterlaw says:

    BS. Take a random black married couple with two children and a random white couple where their two children have 2 dads and I bet the black couple is better off financially.

    The exception would be if one member of the white couple is a Kardashian.

  511. wvally says:

    One government policy change I would advocate to address incarceration rates would be to decriminalize marijuana.

    Great society plus drug war has led to a cycle of doom.

  512. lisab says:

    you want to compare a married heterosexual black couple with two children to a married gay white couple with two children?

    i’m reasonably sure the gay white couple would be better off financially

  513. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Lisab can’t engage me so she changes the hypothetical. She takes the unmarried white couple and makes them a married gay couple.

  514. lisab says:

    you said two dads

  515. Bitterlaw says:

    It is odd that lisab always goes out of her way to make gay men the ideal. Why is she so anti-lesbian? I accept people equally but lisab is obviously prejudiced against breeders and lesbians.

    Where is Tgca to talk to lisab about her hatred?

  516. Bitterlaw says:

    I meant a mom and 2 dads. Want to answer what I posted or just play your game?

  517. lisab says:

    actually lesbians are far more likely to get married and have children than gay men

    however, black gay and lesbian couples are more likley to live in poverty than white gay and lesbian couples

  518. Bitterlaw says:

    Still won’t address my hypothetical. Typical. I’m out.

  519. lisab says:

    I meant a mom and 2 dads.
    ============================

    i assume you mean a single woman who had children with two different men, not a woman with two husbands!!!

    single parent households are by far more likely to live in poverty than two parent households, regardless of race.

    however, it is also true that poor mothers are given MUCH more benefits if they do not marry — because a woman with children is given free housing, free food, free WIC, free healthcare, etc. if they marry their baby daddy, and he works, they lose money. they are essentially paid NOT to get married.

  520. lisab says:

    One government policy change I would advocate to address incarceration rates would be to decriminalize marijuana.
    ———————————

    although it would decriminalize many blacks, it would not address poverty among blacks

  521. wvally says:

    Incarceration impacts both short term and lifetime earning power.

    That being said, I have no magic bullet governmental prescription to fix what the government has wrought over the last 50 years. Individuals have to value themselves, educate themselves and work hard to improve their own stations in life. The government will not inspire this, but real people can inspire other people. It would be great if conservative blacks weren’t marginalized and ridiculed.

    I have full confidence that the libs, media, and cultural powers that be (but I repeat myself) will continue to promote race grievance mentality in perpetuity.

  522. lisab says:

    Individuals have to value themselves, educate themselves and work hard to improve their own stations in life.
    —————————————

    easy to say if you are middle class and married

    not so easy to do if you are living in poverty

  523. Cash Cow TM says:

    doom

    mood

  524. Cash Cow TM says:

    incarceration

    car in reaction
    RE: car in action
    in a nice carrot
    I train cancer
    carnation rice
    no narc inertia
    crane ion cart I
    Inca creation R
    C rain creation
    in car creation

  525. Tgca says:

    Bitter
    551

    Gay bashing and hating is no longer chic.
    Gay is becoming soooooooo boring now.
    Things were so much more interesting when we snuck around and hid what we doing, and where we were going.
    Ah! Those were the days.

  526. Tgca says:

    But you know what?

    Discussing ABORTION will always be in vogue.

  527. Bitterlaw says:

    Wives don’t find comments about suicide to be funny. Who knew?

  528. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Damnn the dumb whtite nonempathic people brigade is out.

    Because these black people happen to be rich, they can no longer legitimately protest.

    Bitterlaw was suppose to be one of the more sane posters on this board but it turns out that he’s more of a gentile plantation owner.

    “How dare these house slaves protest? They have it so good conparee to the field slaves!”

    And wvally turned liberal to conservative over johnson’s policies. So the answer to flawed policies is to do nothing? Just believe in jesus and marriage and the black illegitimacy problem would be over!

    Or more education for birth control and access to affordable housing in good neighborhoods is the real answer and has been shown to decrease poverty.

    You’re allowed to have your own opinions. Just not your own facts and the fact of the matter is these people have far more right to complain than you do. God forbid some white redneck has to watch a black player kneel during the national anthem. How inconvenient for them!

    What an inbred intellectual sh*thole this whole place has become.

  529. BayernFan says:

    Dio?

  530. Bitterlaw says:

    GFY. I said that they have a right to protest but the manner of that protest has turned people against them. Here is a fact – when you make bad choices bad things happen. As for the birth control argument, bs. Can a woman get pregnant unintentionally? Absolutely. The second, third, fourth time is due to her being stupid or careless.

  531. NYCmike says:

    “Damnn the dumb whtite nonempathic people brigade is out.” – do we all have the same uniforms?

  532. NYCmike says:

    “Because these black people happen to be rich, they can no longer legitimately protest.” – NOBODY said that.

  533. NYCmike says:

    “Bitterlaw was suppose to be one of the more sane posters on this board but it turns out that he’s more of a gentile plantation owner.” – Not sane, and he would own a beach house instead of a plantation. (Wes would have the plantation, but it would only be bad, not evil.)

  534. NYCmike says:

    ““How dare these house slaves protest? They have it so good conparee to the field slaves!””

    -Are we speaking about No Korea? Rocket Man will probably just kill them.

  535. NYCmike says:

    “And wvally turned liberal to conservative over johnson’s policies. So the answer to flawed policies is to do nothing? Just believe in jesus and marriage and the black illegitimacy problem would be over!”

    -Or let’s keep doing what we have been doing…….Bitterlaw won’t be the only insane one then!

  536. NYCmike says:

    “Or more education for birth control and access to affordable housing in good neighborhoods is the real answer and has been shown to decrease poverty.”

    -Keeping your legs crossed doesn’t work anymore? I knew those Catholic girls were lying to me!

  537. Mr.Vito says:

    Since Liberals have all the answers, it would be nice if they would solve the problem already. They’ve been in charge of these neighborhoods for decades.

  538. Mr.Vito says:

    Liberals also constantly call for boycotts and firing people for expressing their views, even outside of work.

  539. NYCmike says:

    Back in the ’90’s, Rudy Guiliani’s campaign/governing mantra was “One City, One Standard”.

    That was “racist”, according to the same people who have the same opinions as this “PeteWilson” guy.

  540. Bitterlaw says:

    Affordable housing? Why not? Everything is affordable when somebody else pays for it.

    America has the richest “poor” people on the planet. At what point do we stop and say, “Would you mind helping out a little? Could you stop messing up your own life?”

  541. Mr.Vito says:

    “Everything is affordable when somebody else pays for it.”

    They tax the hell out of those people and everyone leaves.

  542. Mr.Vito says:

    That’s why they want the feds… of course the many rural folks in poverty with no jobs get squat, because it’s not really about poverty and jobs.

  543. NYCmike says:

    Reading that whole article, it sure sounds like the Trump campaign had a clear agenda in mind on how to win.

  544. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #564
    What a great screed from a distraught Obama fan!

    His/her(“It”) next to last paragraph is a joy in its contradictions.It tries to make a distinction between fact and opinion, accuses HHR posters of stating opinion as fact and then states a “matter of fact” which is nothing more than an hysterical opinion.

    Does HHR have year end awards? This post deserves one!

  545. Mr.Vito says:

    HHR has a dumbchit hall of fame… Bunu and Don.dero are the members.

    Are you calling for nominations?

  546. Mr.Vito says:

    Dond.ero is such a dumbchit that mentioning his name puts your comments in moderation. Bunu put the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust at well under a million. It is a high bar.

  547. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Real good news for the Senate GOP in 2018 if it happens.
    Wi Senate: Duffy is reconsidering according to @hotlinejosh of the national journal.
    I have sent Rachel Campos several letters encouraging this, so you can thank me later ?

  548. MichiganGuy says:

    Trump Nominates Texas Conservatives Don Willett, James Ho to Fifth Circuit

    https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2017/09/28/trump-nominates-texas-conservatives-don-willett-james-ho-fifth-circuit/

    This is why I voted for Trump!

  549. NYCmike says:

    Already posted a link for that, MG.

  550. MichiganGuy says:

    NYCmike your always one step ahead of me. 🙂

  551. Bitterlaw says:

    580. It was certainly honest. In order to please the self-proclaimed “normals,” the GOP must defeat qualified incumbents who voted as Trump wanted with Birthers who have no respect for the rule of law. It’s all in the open now.

  552. Mr.Vito says:

    Or, they could have just kept their word or stood up once in a while against the left’s culture war against them…

    Then, they probably wouldn’t feel like “normies” that had to take matters to extremes. They probably feel that way more than ever now.

    Making fun of them, duping them, and calling them crazies, antisemites, and hypocrites seems to have been pretty counterproductive, speaking as a non-republican observer.

    “… who voted as Trump wanted…”

    …which would teach most people that isn’t about Trump.

  553. GPO says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:

    September 29, 2017 at 9:21 am

    Real good news for the Senate GOP in 2018 if it happens.
    Wi Senate: Duffy is reconsidering according to @hotlinejosh of the national journal.

    Not going to happen- Robbie told us people are running away because of Trump

  554. GPO says:

    I am all for getting the backstabbers out of the Senate and primarying those that screw us, but giving up safe Senate seats over the last 8 years is what caused Obamacare to not be overturned as much as dbag Mccain. If we give up winnable Senate seats this year, very plausible that we have a Dem president, and the slightest of Dem edge in the Senate after 2020. Ginsburg and Breyer then get replaced by any old left wing whacko they want.

  555. Tina says:

    Any muh russian news?

  556. Mr.Vito says:

    People here wanted a civil war… most of them left after losing one of their big battles and now retweet liberals. Wars have casualties. It’s okay though… they assured us that the GOP could lose as many battles as needed for a decade to prove their point and rebuild it from the ashes. So it’s just part of the plan… no need to complain.

    Seems to me they should just kick them out now like they promised instead of lying to win their votes.

  557. NYCmike says:

    MD keeps repeating that he won’t vote Republican for several more cycles……SEND A MESSAGE!?!?

  558. Tgca says:

    It’s been reported Mueller is expanding his investigation into the WH. He has requested the dinner menu of various meetings and found they had Borscht on the menu. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, and Anderson Cooper are vying for this breaking story as the evidence of Russian collusion in the Trump administration piles up.

    Congress needs to hold hearings and get to the bottom of these dinners. McCain will have his revenge. Impeach! Impeach!

  559. Tgca says:

    CA to ban gas cars by 2040 according to Drudge. Was that like having electric cars be the mainstream by 2020?

    I think they need to ban tofu too. Edamame is ok though.

  560. Tgca says:

    600! Yay!

  561. NYCmike says:

    On Author’s Twitter, he is salivating in front of a picture of the last 3 Presidents, Bubba, Bush, and Barack. They did such a great job!/

  562. Tina says:

    The russian hoax story receives another blow.

    First, facebook helping hilkary ads.

    And now, this

    https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/yet-another-major-russia-story-falls-apart-is-skepticism-permissible-yet/

    Russia did not hack into the elections sites.

    Lol, libtards and their hoax news.

  563. Wes says:

    Mikey accuses me of wanting slavery, I see. Quite honestly if there is a Hell, I hope you roast in it when you die, you fascist sonofabitch.

    That’s all I have to say on that matter.