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Trump Trails All Democrats in 2020

It is never too early to look ahead to 2020 and Public Policy Polling has done just that with their new national poll showing all the Democrats tested leading Donald Trump.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (PPP)
Joe Biden (D) 53%
Donald Trump (R) 40%

Cory Booker (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R) 40%

Hillary Clinton (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R) 42%

Kristen Gillibrand (D) 42%
Donald Trump (R) 39%

Kamala Harris (D) 41%
Donald Trump (R) 40%

Michelle Obama (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R) 41%

Bernie Sanders (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R) 40%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R) 41%

This poll was done September 22-25 among 865 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 11:26 am
Filed under: General | Comments (154)

154 Responses to “Trump Trails All Democrats in 2020”

  1. Mr.Vito says:

    Hillary should totes run again in 2020.

  2. PresidentPaul! says:

    Where’s Oprah

  3. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand says Trump should not change course on DACA doing his amnesty plan

    On Thursday’s “Laura Ingraham Show,” Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) reacted to President Trump’s reported deal with Democratic Congressional leaders on immigration by stating that Trump might have “Potomac Fever” and is changing his mind “at his own peril” and predicted “his base will be very, very unhappy with this.”

  4. GPO says:

    Maybe im not looking at right places, but I have zero feel for where this tax cut bill is. Are bluestate rs going to get behind this?

  5. GPO says:

    will they get behind it because of state tax deduction issue is my real question

  6. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/913784465046097922/photo/1

    Call for. Itchie to step down.

    He is ineffective and incompetent.

  7. Tina says:

    Ben Shapiro @benshapiro
    ·
    11h
    Watching NFL and NBA back away from kneeling shows how badly the Left oversteps when they seek to reject everything Trump-related.

    Yup!

  8. NYCmike says:

    Kristen Gillibrand?!?!

    Kamala Harris?!?!

    Michelle Obama?!?

    Do some state polls, PPP.

  9. Tgca says:

    Megyn Kelly
    Rosie O’Donnell
    Rachel Maddow

    …all lead Trump in 2020 polls too.

  10. Waingro says:

    Uh oh.

    Decision Desk HQ?Verified account @DecisionDeskHQ

    Lastly, the #ALSen horserace.
    Opinion Savvy/ DDHQ poll:
    Roy Moore 50.2%
    Doug Jones 44.5%
    Full details: https://ddhq.io/2017/09/29/alabama-senate-special-election-poll/

  11. Tina says:

    Linrarian triggered by dr. Seuss book.

    Lol, sjw.

  12. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I have always been impressed with Public Policy Polling (PPP). Their polls are so accurate. Just ask President Clinton.

  13. Mr.Vito says:

    That swishing sound was every never-Trumper in America cutting a check for Jones.

  14. Mr.Vito says:

    The PPP poll is D+9, so for reference:

    Trump voters (41%) still vote Trump 92-4.
    Clinton voters (45%) still vote Clinton 90-4
    Others/no vote (14%) vote 31-24 Clinton.

    Basically, nothing really changed from 2016.

  15. DW says:

    California looking to ban all cars. Please do. The faster California goes down the drain, the faster the rest of the country can move on without them.

  16. Tina says:

    Trumps approval at 45 percent in ras.

  17. Mr.Vito says:

    Great Moments in Transportation History

    Germany: Autobahn
    California: Auto Ban

  18. DW says:

    meant to say all gas cars. Good luck.

  19. NYCmike says:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/va-chief-took-in-wimbledon-river-cruise-on-european-work-trip/2017/09/29/c1f17046-a458-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.html?utm_term=.565738948550

    -Some of these people refuse to accept that every move is chronicled in this day and age, and don’t realize that this is a bigger story to the media than Antifa violence.

  20. NYCmike says:

    Nice one, Vito.

  21. Mr.Vito says:

    How much more electricity will California have to import?

  22. NYCmike says:

    I should also say The media SHOULD make it a big story as well as the Antifa story.

  23. Phil says:

    D+9??

    Only in Jensen’s dreams. It was either D+3 or D+4 in 2016.

    I’m not a big fan of reweighting polls, but give me a fricken break.

    PPP’s numbers have Clinton winning by 5 with a D+9 electorate (that party ID has NEVER happened BTW).

    She won by 2.1% with a D+3 or D+4 electorate last November.

    They now have her winning by 5 with a fantasy D+9 electorate.

    Nothing to see here, folks.

    PPP playing their usual games.

  24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Heard an estimate that the greenhouse gas emissions that result from the production of an electric car’s batteries is the same as eight years of emissions from the average gas fueled car.

    This does not take into account the greenhouse gas emissions caused by whatever the source is for the electricity that powers the vehicle. In a lot of the Los Angeles area at night, the power comes from coal.

  25. BayernFan says:

    Oh nooo!! lol

  26. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nicholas-kristof-in-north-korea-shares-photos-of-fun-and-pizza/article/2636071

    -The Instagram page shows how clueless liberals are. They keep writing “Be Safe!”, as if the North Korean government would let him take a picture or write anything that would be detrimental to them.

    Shameful!

  27. Jonesy says:

    Nice to finally see Ralph Erickson get confirmed to the 8th US Circuit yesterday.

  28. Jonesy says:

    Mike, Rauner is toast in Illinois.

  29. Tina says:

    Price resigns.

  30. Cash Cow TM says:

    breaking….

    New poll

    Trump 41%
    Cash Cow 39%

    CC within moe…

  31. Jonesy says:

    Wow! Price gave up his house seat for that post.

    Another tough confirm hearing for the new guy or gal.

    Price really screwed up

  32. Tina says:

    He was not trumps pick. He was ryanos pick to help to repeal obumblercare.

  33. NYCmike says:

    “Mike, Rauner is toast in Illinois.”

    -What brought that up?

  34. Bitterlaw says:

    I thoughtabout the comparison of me to a plantation owner because I believe in personal responsibility. I admit it is easier to be white than black in America. However, considering that my heroes include Dr. King and the Tuskeegee Airmen, anybody calling me a racist can F off.

  35. Jonesy says:

    39. He signed into law, the first state ever to have state funded abortions for all.

    His base is gone

  36. Jonesy says:

    Sadly, Price fell into the same trap of many who get new power in D.C. He liked the spoils of private planes.

    But this is really him doing nada to repeal HC

  37. NYCmike says:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/glanton/ct-bruce-rauner-abortion-dahleen-glanton-met-20171007-column.html

    -I definitely do NOT agree with his reason for signing it into law.

    “”I also believe that no woman should be forced to make a different decision than another woman would make purely based on her income,” Rauner said. “I believe that a woman living with limited financial means should not be put in the position where she has to choose something different than a woman of higher income would be able to choose.””

    Terrible decision, in my opinion.

  38. NYCmike says:

    “Republicans stood behind Rauner in the 2014 election, though they knew he supported a woman’s right to choose. In a debate during the primary, Rauner said, “It’s a decision that should be made by a woman with her physician, her family or minister, not by government.””

    -This is it in a nutshell. Conservatives allowed for a pro-death candidate, thinking that he would, at the least, keep government out of the decision.

    This is how he paid them back.

    3….2…..1…..to blame “deadenders” when he loses.

  39. Jonesy says:

    Yes Mike. And the 2020 redistricting is now at stake in IL.

  40. CG says:

    Rauner may very well not seek a second term. That is what many believe will happen.

    I think he reached the conclusion that he was not going to win regardless of the position he took on the bill so he just did this so his wife won’t lose friends or get dirty looks at cocktail parties.

    If he does run, and gets a primary challenge, he completely owns the state party apparatus and can overwhelm any opponent with money.

    This is definitely a lesson for people across the country because parallels can be drawn between Rauner and Trump. Both businessman outsiders who had mostly been associated with Democrats before running as Republicans.

    I was very much opposed to Rauner in the primaries and never trusted him, as people here probably remember, but of course supported him in the general election and spent many hours trying to get him elected, because that is what I did as a Republican.. until someone as horrible as Donald Trump came along.

    I don’t think Rauner has been successful as Governor at all but if he is nominated for another term, I am pretty sure I will vote for him against a Democrat, but with zero enthusiasm.

  41. NYCmike says:

    How in the world does that terrible decision get linked to Trump?

    A Dem Governor, and Hillary, would have signed this bill, GUARANTEED.

    Rauner was NOT a guarantee, which is why conservatives voted for him, that he would take a more libertarian position (abortion allowed, no government money).

    As opposed to Trump’s actions, whether you agree with them or not:

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/22/trumps-mexico-city-policy-or-global-gag-rule

  42. Redmen4ever says:

    Grandpa got run over by his four wives
    Walking home after celebrating Eid
    You might think giving driver license to women is wrong
    But as for me and my fellow wives, we believe

    We been smoking too much hookah
    And they begged us not to smoke more
    They said have a male relative drive you
    But we got into the Mercedes and pushed the pedal to the floor

    We hit a bump along the highway
    Thought it might be a camel or a Pakistani
    Then to our surprise the next day
    We found out it was our ahzwee (”husband”)

    Grandpa got run over by his four wives
    Walking home after celebrating Eid
    You might think giving driver license to women is wrong
    But as for me and my fellow wives, we believe

  43. CG says:

    Plenty of people like you trusted Rauner too.

    In the 2014 primary, he had lots of Tea Party endorsements as well as among social conservatives. People said “in his heart, I believe he is really Pro-Life.” Well, clearly he isn’t and never was.

    People trust Trump at their own peril.

    See you in November. Go Cubs!

  44. NYCmike says:

    I never trusted Rauner, and I don’t trust Trump.

    I don’t trust ANY of them.

  45. NYCmike says:

    BUT, as we see with the judges picked, there was a good reason to pick him over Hillary.

    You stayed home.

  46. Jonesy says:

    46. Actually Well said about Rauner, Corey. I do not agree with you on Trump. His Judge picks have been excellent and conservative.

  47. Tina says:

    I trust hillary

    -jebot

  48. Jonesy says:

    51. Well said Mike, you beat me to it. Hard for Corey to be right, when he had no problem hillary picking Judges

  49. Tina says:

    I will cote again for hillary. I am cery enthusiastiic for her

    -jebot

  50. Jonesy says:

    This Tom Price fiasco, really was a pain in the butt.

    We had to go thru a expensive special election in GA, when Trump picked him.

    Maybe better in the future for the Prez, not to pick people in Congress

  51. NYCmike says:

    I would have picked Carson for that post. He communicated the reasons why Obamacare was terrible direct to obama’s face. He could have done the same speaking to the whole nation.
    Lost opportunity.

  52. NYCmike says:

    And I am pretty sure he would not have had this airline scandal….

  53. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #12
    Moore(R) is up 6% in the Alabama General Senate race after millions of dollars of negative ads against him and not one negative ad has been aired against Doug Jones(D).Jones is pro- abortion and has said that he would have voted against popular Alabamian Jeff Sessions for Attorney General.
    This race is likely over with a double digit win for Moore.

  54. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Maybe better in the future for the Prez, not to pick people in Congress.”

    Agree, members of Congress were elected to do a job, and should complete their term of office.

  55. Bitterlaw says:

    A Republican is up 6% over a Democrat in Alabama? Not exactly a reason to celebrate. At least he’s a Birther and a twice-suspended judge. I just hope he’s not a warlock.

  56. Cash Cow TM says:

    CAN-EECH-u-ah!

  57. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have always pondered why herdsmen say they have X number head of cows. Why not say X number of rump of cows? Or X number of tail of cows? Or even X times 4 hoof of cow?

  58. JC says:

    Wasn’t there a poll that had Moore up by like 20 points a few days ago? And now one says he’s only up by 6?

    Why such the wide discrepancies? Is Alabama a hard state to poll or something? It was like this in the primaries too.

  59. JC says:

    Bitter,

    Moore will win the election by 10-15 points.

  60. Gpo says:

    Have to say , I loved the Price pick when he made it

  61. Bitterlaw says:

    JC – Remember when Akin was up big before the primary? Then he wasn’t……..

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    I am watching The Deuce. It is an HBO series about Times Square and hookersand crime in 1971. Is something ever going to happen? At least there is nu dity.

  63. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Puerto Rico lost all its power. Some renewable energy activists think that the solution to hurricane damage is more wind and solar. Here is a YouTube video of what the hurricane did to Puerto Rico’s existing wind turbines.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AAHJs-j3uw

    The reports indicate that every single wind turbine in Puerto Rico was badly damaged like the ones in the video.

    Shouldn’t the real question be whether we should even build wind turbines in areas with frequent hurricanes?

  64. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    69. The video also shows the remains of what once was a solar farm.

  65. Mr.Vito says:

    The real question is whether Trump hates Puerto Ricans.

    I saw it on CNN…

  66. MichiganGuy says:

    David Wissing the never trumper knows these polls are meaningless with 3 years to go. Dave you are a sad little man.

  67. Tina says:

    Michael benett football player has lied.

    He was detained by 3 officers, 2 hispanic and 1 black officer.

    Justifiable.

    http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/29/michael-bennett-cops-to-show-body-cam-footage/

  68. Wes says:

    Unlike certain posters on here, I don’t pretend to know if Trump will win reelection. Certainly at this point in 1929 and 1977 respectively, Hoover and Carter looked poised to win reelection handily. It was all doenhill for them from there.

    As far as Trump, his presidency has been a mixed bag alternating between moments of transcendence and moments jawdropping stupidity.

    He gives off an unusual patina of both electoral shrewdness and childlike stupidity that makes his reelection prospects hard to gauge.

    What may be make or break for him is the quality of his opponent. Democrats went with a candidate who checked all the boxes except ethnicity last time. Her remarkable ineptitude, grating inability to connect with people on a personal level, and gross incompetence/corruption cost her the election.

    I would doubt Democrats would nominate anyone wigh Hillary’s baggage next time though doubling down on a check-the-box candidate may not be wise. All of the names floated about in the 2020 Dem primaries will enrage Trump’s base nearly as much as Hillary did. That would lead to another dichotomy of an election they would be likely to lose. Barring an economic downturn, Trump would likely prevail over Harris, Booker, Warren, or any of the other gaggle extreme leftists mulling bids simply because they would repeat Hillary’s mistake of trying to excite their base of minorities and extreme let whites while making no inroads among more moderate whites in critical battleground states.

    On the other hand, if Dems moderated their image and eschewed the SJW portion of their selection in favor of someone capable of making inroads in Trump’s base, Andrew Cuomo would be a formidable foe.

    Although a heterosexual white male in a party that considers such anathema, Cuomo offers ghe Dems their best shot at beating Trump. In contrast to his predecessors, Spitzer and Patterson, Cuomo has been a largely successful Governor of New York, blocking the Dems’ darker leftist impulses while working with the GOP-controlled State Senate more than the Dem-controlled State House.

    Cuomo speaks well and is good at addressing constituents’ concerns. Like previous Dem Governors of the state from Franklin Roosevelt to his father, Cuomo knows how to speak to working class whites in an appealing way. He would be very formidable.

    Of course if Trump can show consistently good rather than intermittently good political instincts and is presiding over a strong economy in 2020, then this is likely to be academic anyway as Trump will win under such circumstances regardless.

    Thus, I consider this poll nothing to wring my hands over. At the same time, I don’t pretend Trump has no potential concerns to address before gearing up for reelection.

  69. Wes says:

    To be fair to Trump though, while Bush displayed loyalty to incompetent dolts such as Donald Rumsfeld during his administration, Trump did remove Tom Price once Price became a liability.

    That speaks well by indicating Trump won’t display undue loyalty to incompetents while in office. Trump needs to display more of the same over the next few years to secure reelection.

  70. Wes says:

    Regarding Roy Moore, while I expect him to win because Doug Jones made two significant verbal faux pas, I actually think the poll with Moore up six is the more accurate regarding the race as Moore is a polarizing sort known most prominently for multiple violations of other judges’ rulings and his showboating theocratic tendencies. Moore has also proved fairly weak in the past, winning reelection 52-48 while literally every other Republican in the state won by double digits.

    Ultimately I expect Moore to win anywhere from 54-47 to 55-45. He simply is not the type to win in a landslide even though Jones has already disqualified himself from legiyimate contention.

  71. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #61
    Bitter— Well,Golly Gee Sugar, did you not vote for a Birther candidate for President last November? The one who goes by the name of President Donald Trump. Hypocrisy?!

  72. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – Does that mean that Birtherism should be a litmus test for the GOP? What are your thoughts on where Obama was born? I say he was born in Hawaii.

  73. Bitterlaw says:

    I voted for Trump despite him being an idiot Birther. How many people voted for Moore, at least in part, because he is an idiot Birther?

  74. Tina says:

    Looks like a puerto rican mayor is blaiming trump formthe disastwr in puerto rico. She isma drat, went in cnn and indicates that they are dying.

    The drat governor of pr imdicates otherwise,

    Recap

    The ports were destroyed and reopend quickly by our great mikitary. Then a sizeable number of the pr national guard fail to show and only 20000 truck drivers show up,for work.

    The fed gubment s not the dirst response. It is clear that the entire community needs to respond.

  75. Tina says:

    Hmm, what about the original birther Hillary?

  76. Tina says:

    And this is not blasting the awol pr national guard and truck and logistic operators, they may not be able to show, for whatever reason.

    This is xomplicated because you have no initial first response from the community.

  77. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    78 & 79
    Hawaii and Indeterminable.

  78. Robbie says:

    Hey Trump chumps. Your dear orange leader has launched a nasty Twitter attack on the mayor of San Juan this morning. You must be so proud of him. She’s living in a shelter and sleeping on a cot trying to help her city that was devastated by Maria and poor little Donny is mean tweeting at her from his golf course. What a guy. I hope he has fun on the golf course today while Americans in Puerto Rico are suffering. I wonder if dipstick Donnie even knows Puerto Ricans are Americans.

  79. Tina says:

    Drat talking points.

    Sad,

  80. Tina says:

    Has muh pr replaced muh russian?

    Drats are too predictable.

  81. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #84
    Sort of like when Obama did not visit LA in 2016 after some major flooding and played golf instead.

  82. Tina says:

    Geraldo Rivera
    Geraldo Rivera @GeraldoRivera
    ·
    19h
    Don’t blame @realDonaldTrump Blame 2 historic storms back to back & blame #PREPA the bankrupt criminally incompetent ElectricPowerAuthority

  83. Tina says:

    Geraldo Rivera @GeraldoRivera
    ·
    19h
    Don’t blame @realDonaldTrump Blame 2 historic storms back to back & blame #PREPA the bankrupt criminally incompetent ElectricPowerAuthority

  84. Tina says:

    Geraldo is on the ground there. He wants the electric company officials arrested.

  85. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #84
    So the PR Mayor disses 10,000 federal employees working non-stop on the Island and the President disses her. I see the balance that you do not see.
    During Katrina, Bush43 was dissed by Democrat LA politicians, who were mostly responsible for the incompetency and W. never fought back.

  86. Tina says:

    The drat governorhas said the opposite and the mayor allegedly living in a cot said otherwise.

  87. Tina says:

    The mayor is a communist too. She wears a red beret and combat boots,

  88. Tina says:

    Prepa is the electrical state run municipalicity in Pr. Full of graft, corruotion, etc.

  89. Cash Cow TM says:

    Quote from Walt…
    “Anothr f..ing skunk…”

  90. Cash Cow TM says:

    When will they airlift all the people to the U.S.?

    all except those who dislike U.S. control and want independence…

  91. Cash Cow TM says:

    Puerto Ricans I mean

  92. Mr.Vito says:

    ” How many people voted for Moore, at least in part, because he is an idiot Birther?”

    Likely zero, since what made Roy Moore popular with the base nearly entirely took place in the decades before Obama was ever on the scene.

  93. Mr.Vito says:

    “Blame 2 historic storms back to back”

    He means three right?

  94. Mr.Vito says:

    “She’s living in a shelter and sleeping on a cot…”

    That’s probably what really has her ticked off.

  95. Mr.Vito says:

    They really really really really really REALLY REALLY REALLY want this to be Katrina… they are already on strike two with historic hurricanes.

  96. Mr.Vito says:

    Bush was awesome, though.

  97. Jonesy says:

    101. Good point Vito. I think the protection for Freedom of Religion has much to do with it also.

    Most Believers in the US, see the US Senate, with some exceptions, as a bunch of Secular Lawyers and Businessmen comparable to Western Europe.

    They see Moore as their champion

  98. Mr.Vito says:

    ” I wonder if dipstick Donnie even knows Puerto Ricans are Americans.”

    Then you are dumb as a doornail.

  99. Tina says:

    The mayor also wants to secede from the us.

    She is a hard core nut job.

  100. Jonesy says:

    I have been very critical of the Bush family of late, but at the President’s Golf Cup, have a feeling W Bush pressured Clinton and Obama to respect the Anthem. Good Show

  101. Tina says:

    Trump knows that they are americans. That line uh lie is borrowed from her thighness and steve schmidt sp, the so called republican consultant.

    In the 2016 campain teump advocated for pr statehood.

    His comments went well to prs in the fl corridor coming out for him.

  102. Jonesy says:

    Tina, Governor of PR really helped Trump. Why elections matter even in a US Commonwealth.

  103. Tina says:

    Also notice how far, nbc and cnn are ignoring the pr governor, a drat.

  104. Jonesy says:

    Confirmed loser Robbie is back? Must be out of Rehab

  105. Jonesy says:

    I see Casey of Penn, has returned his Blue Slip on Appeals Court nominee, allowing nomination to go forward.

    Could it be he is up and 2018, and Trump won his state?

  106. Tina says:

    The only good things congress has done.

    Lesser ct Judges

    Reform va

    Gorsuch.

    Light on legislation though.

  107. Tina says:

    Pr governor was not happy with cruz, remarks btw.

  108. Bitterlaw says:

    Did somebody ask for a song about a hoodie?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtIvGrqAZE

  109. Jonesy says:

    115. A lot of deregulation, and EPA has been cleaned up a bit, but that is more Trump.

    under the Radar, is the confirm of Huntsman as Ambassador of Russia. Gives Trump a smart point man to deal with Putin

  110. Tina says:

    Hoodies and skittles?

  111. Jonesy says:

    Tina, Tax reform must be passed or McConnell is out as leader. Worst kept secret in D.C. Hopefully his swamp buddies like McCain will help him

  112. Tina says:

    I think ryano will ruin it though with the re deductions, Not allowing a deduction for that is stupoid policy.

    Ryano is against that deduction.

  113. Tina says:

    And ues, mitchiemshould have been gone a long time ago. He is too ineffective.

  114. Jonesy says:

    RAS still at 45%. Robbie sad, but I am sure a new College poll with a Dem 20%, will come out soon to his liking.

  115. Phil says:

    I see Robbie is back with his Democratic talking points.

    Same old same old. Nothing ever changes with this guy except he jumps from topic to topic in search of everything or anything his MSM friends can dredge up against Trump. The Russians, Melania is wearing the wrong shoes, hurricanes are Katrina 2, Trump dares to criticize those Poor oppressed NFL millionaires……….all this and Trump is still President.

    The Trump obsession is eating him up.

  116. Jonesy says:

    Paul Ryano, will be tougher to pry out, Tina. He holds the donor $$$$, and the GOP Reps fall in line.

    Only way Ryan goes, is if they lose the House to Botox

  117. Jonesy says:

    Tina, we do have to give him credit for stalling Merrick Garland. McCain and Collins would have confirmed him

  118. Jonesy says:

    Phil, Robbie needs help. Similar to the MSM token RINO’s like Nicole Wallace, rove etc…

  119. Jonesy says:

    Phil, have to give credit to Trump’s judicial nominee advisor.

    They are going to stack the 5th and 6th circuits to negate the ninth circus in San Fran

  120. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Below are Trump’s tweets concerning Puerto Rico. All he is doing is defending his administration’s actions.

    Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours agoThe Fake News Networks are working overtime in Puerto Rico doing their best to take the spirit away from our soldiers and first R’s. Shame!
    Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours agoI will be going to Puerto Rico on Tuesday with Melania. Will hopefully be able to stop at the U.S. Virgin Islands (people working hard).
    Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours agoFake News CNN and NBC are going out of their way to disparage our great First Responders as a way to “get Trump.” Not fair to FR or effort!
    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours agoThe military and first responders, despite no electric, roads, phones etc., have done an amazing job. Puerto Rico was totally destroyed.
    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago…want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. 10,000 Federal workers now on Island doing a fantastic job.
    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago…Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help. They….
    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours agoThe Mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only a few days ago, has now been told by the Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump.

    What upsets the Democrats about this is they are used to the Mitch McConnell/Paul Ryan type of Republican, who had not PR skills. Obama was able to roll over them despite Republican majorities in Congress because they were basically mute.

    Trump fights back, and has opened a direct line of communication to the American people using his twitter account. His effectiveness in the NFL controversy is an example, he effectively rallied the American people.

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    My front door lock broke. It may be almost as old as Walt. It is being replaced by 2 pleasant young men with Middle Eastern accents. Michael Corleone and Michigan Guy to scream ISIS in 3…2…1…

  122. lisab says:

    Breaking News: President Trump sends pallet containing $400,000,000.00 cash for hurricane relief in an unmarked cargo plane to Puerto Rico in the middle of the night. Oh… wait, that was Obama and the cash went to Iran.

  123. lisab says:

    french nanny, 21, hired by nice muslim couple in london

    Two charged with murder after body of French nanny, 21, found badly burnt in back garden

    Sophie Lionnet, from Troyes in north-eastern France, had come to London to work as an ‘au pair’, according to reports

    A woman told the Daily Mail her eight-year-old son had seen the blaze and climbed a fence to get a better look.

    “My young son called out, ‘If you are having a barbecue, are we allowed to come?,” she said.

    “I told him, ‘no that’s not a barbecue, that’s a bad smell’.”

  124. Bitterlaw says:

    I was wrong. They are from Georgia Republic. The real caucasians.

  125. lisab says:

    Police have been unable to tell the age or gender of the victim because the body was so badly burned but she has been named locally as Sophie.

  126. lisab says:

    the situation has turned dire in puerto rico …

    the mayor barely had time to print up a new political tee shirt and hat to politicize the situation

  127. lisab says:

    11 people shot in less than 12 hours in Chicago since yesterday afternoon

  128. janz says:

    #74-#76

    Those were thoughtful posts, Wes.

    As for those early poll numbers, I would expect such from PPP and other polling outfits. Trump seems to stick to the low 40’s in such voting measurements. However, I’m still inclined to think people hold their support for this controversial president close to the vest, and won’t openly admit they would vote for him in 2020.

    Trump is certainly a conundrum,though, in how his behavior both seems to crave approval, while at the same time recklessly incites controversy that could easily be avoided. Consequently it’s almost mental whiplash to witness how he rockets around from excelling to diving into a mire of s**t.

    I hope over time Trump will get a better grip on some of his more reactionary, non-sensical comments and tweets, but am not holding my breath this will materialize. Nonetheless, it’s worth noting that in between all the drama, there have been good decisions, judicial picks, policies and softer anecdotal stories generated during his presidency — the most recent being where he spontaneously called an injured police officer before his plane took off from Indiana. I think in Trump’s heart of hearts he does care about the working class, and is trying to help them. But, his cultivated demeanor is innately brash, abrasive, where he equally derides everyone no matter their race, gender, position, or political party, and impatiently expects more from a DC environment that is rigidly set in opposition, making it difficult for him to serenely navigate the K Street scene. Consequently, it will probably be a bumpy ride throughout his term(s) in office.

    I definitely, though, wouldn’t count him out in 2020, as his appeal with “the people” is underestimated and stronger than most people understand.

  129. janz says:

    As for the current avalanche of criticism Trump is getting over his management of the Puerto Rico crisis, much of it seems politically contrived, IMO.

    Yes, aid has been slow getting to this hurricane-demolished “island.” However, because PR is an island, and the damage is so extensive, it has made it all the more difficult to gin up an instantaneous response. Material aid, heavy equipment has to be either shipped or flown over to an island that has a damaged port, airport, roads, and no manpower of it’s own to even distribute what is already there. Food, medicine, building supplies etc. sit in thousands of cargo containers rotting and waiting to be trucked to where they are needed. It’s really an unprecedented disaster, especially when electricity, cell towers, the internet have all been compromised. There is even difficulty with satellite phones reliably working. And, yet the U.S. is expected to magically materialize, within hours/days, after attending to back-to-back natural disasters on the mainland!

    Compounding these basic problems of distribution, infrastructure damage, man power shortages, and a communication blackout is the fact PR is governed by a corrupt bureaucracy — one that earlier misused U.S. funds, diverting them from improving their disintegrating infrastructure to who knows what and whom. They so mishandled the fundamental job of governance that they had no emergency resources available to transition from epic storms, like the two recently experienced, in order to tide people over until mainland help arrived. In fact, the powers that be in PR didn’t even have the smarts to stockpile extra wire for downed power poles — a total failure of common sense for an area prone to hurricane activity where electricity was lost due to downed power poles.

    In essence, the Puerto Rico government dragged their island into bankruptcy, with over a 100 billion in unpaid debt, and no rainy day goods on reserve, or emergency plans on hand for the hard days likely to come. And, with this lack of wisdom and competence in mind, the San Juan mayor then has the chutzpas to chastise the president for not caring or being quick enough in coming to their rescue.

  130. Tina says:

    The mayor is picturd with pallets and she is not directing wnybody to distribute it.

  131. Tina says:

    DanRiehl @DanRiehl
    ·
    12m
    Relief workers haven’t been able to distribute the goods,…only about 20% of Puerto Rico’s truck drivers have reported back to work

    Teamsters will be taking up this

  132. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter
    Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    3h
    The new #NeverTrump meme is that we’re now morally obligated to allow ourselves to be anally raped the same way Bush was over Katrina.

    I did,mot post his full tweet, trump has rebutted the never trumpers and now the never trumpers are complaining.

    Bunch of weak aholes.

  133. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/potus-trump-unleashes-fake-news-puerto-rico-fiery-tweetstorm/

    So, the commie mayah has time to update her fb page, tweet stupidity, all without power?

    Time to print garbage shirts.

    Time to give a pressee with supplies, and nobody moving anything?

    Wtf?

  134. Tina says:

    Jay Caruso @JayCaruso
    ·
    5h
    Replying to @JayCaruso
    You don’t lash out at people who are in the midst of a crisis. You just don’t. Even if the words are unfair. The real problem here is not

    Never trump white flag.

  135. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter ? @KurtSchlichter
    1. Dems decide to try and trash Trump on PR
    2. PR Dems get message to stop complementing Trump & start slamming him
    3. Media pounces
    4. Trump lashes back at phony critics
    5. Voters pay attention, see massive relief & Dems whining in front of pallets of supplies
    6. Trump wins

    Never trumpeters pound sand.

  136. Tina says:

    Geraldo Rivera @GeraldoRivera
    ·
    5h
    #SanJuanMayor says residents are “dying,” & somehow @realDonaldTrump is to blame. I’m here. Who is dying? Why? Where? Let me help save them.

    She is an accessory, if true.

  137. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Tina always posts so much and says so little. Probably nothing more than an ignored secretary in real life because of the poor quality of her mind and work.

    She screams on the internet attempting to get validation and still doesn’t get it.

  138. Paul says:

    Oh Canada.

  139. Bitterlaw says:

    Getting in twitter fights with Puerto Rican Dems is not what I would do but Tina approves. Whatever.

  140. lisab says:

    Monty Hall died

    rip