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Moore Leads Jones By Double Digits

We have a new update from Strategy Research, in their latest poll for FOX10 News, showing Roy Moore maintaining his double-digit lead over Doug Jones in the state of Alabama.

US SENATE – ALABAMA (Strategy Research)
Roy Moore (R) 52%
Doug Jones (D) 41%

This poll was done October 23rd among 3000 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 1:00 pm
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1,416 Responses to “Moore Leads Jones By Double Digits”

  1. mnw says:

    I guess this is a new poll. My mistake. Looks like he’s up by 11, then,

  2. NYCmike says:

    Reports are out that say the same Republican group which spent between $10-30 million trying to defeat Moore are NOT spending any $$ to help him defeat the Democrat…..it’s almost as if they would rather lose the majority if they can SEND A MESSAGE!

  3. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw, on the last thread, is doing one of his “When Obama was in office Republicans complained about…..” schpiels…..I, for one, don’t look at the stock market as indicative of a sound economy. Right now, rising stock market is mainly fueled by the Federal Reserve keeping interest rates at historic lows, for the past 5-10 years.

    Eventually, there will be a reckoning.

  4. NYCmike says:

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/10/metoo-overload.html

    Elie Wiesel is being accused of being a molester being he squeezed a woman’s ass.

    I guess I should give myself in to the proper authorities, as my junior high school and early high schoool days were full of….shall we say….Charmin Paper Towel.

  5. NYCmike says:

    It is very much like the overuse of terms like “racist”….after a while, it loses meaning.

  6. Chicon says:

    Mike, aren’t those who send a message even at the risk of loss referred to here as “deadenders”?

  7. GPO says:

    Instapundit:

    EXPERT DRUDGETAPOSITION HERE:

    Dems Calling Psychologists To Talk About Trump Mental Health…

    CNN Lemon Weeps On Air…

    Activists: Scream at Sky on Election Anniversary…

  8. DW says:

    7 – Election night coverage kept showing the shocked faces and weeping at the Clinton headquarters. Wolf Blitzer said he understood their feelings. I don’t recall any concern on the part of the media for our feelings when we had to watch Obama win twice.

  9. DW says:

    7 – Van Jones on CNN’s election night coverage needed psychiatric help too.

  10. JC says:

    DW says:
    October 24, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    7 – Election night coverage kept showing the shocked faces and weeping at the Clinton headquarters. Wolf Blitzer said he understood their feelings. I don’t recall any concern on the part of the media for our feelings when we had to watch Obama win twice.
    ———————

    Their coverage is merely a reflection of their own internal feelings. They spent more time (like 90%) showing weeping Clinton supporters rather than cheering Trump fans. Because that’s exactly how they felt about what was happening.

    Whenever Republicans win, the media reports – ‘A shocking democratic loss’ and the tone is mournful.
    When democrats win, the media reports – ‘A stunning democratic win’ and the tone is cheerful.

    It’s always from the perspective of the left. As I’m sure you know better than anyone, the tone reported by the media at Clinton’s defeat was basically ‘tragic’. You might as well have been watching a funeral procession. Had she won, the tone would have been gleeful with images of cheering Clinton supporters.

  11. Trump says:

    ” NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    Bitterlaw, on the last thread, is doing one of his “When Obama was in office Republicans complained about…..” schpiels…..I, for one, don’t look at the stock market as indicative of a sound economy. Right now, rising stock market is mainly fueled by the Federal Reserve keeping interest rates at historic lows, for the past 5-10 years. ”

    My financial accounts love it. Beats the alternative. Show me “sound economy” with a falling stock market.

    Also, rising stock market is how Clinton rode to second term.

  12. Trump says:

    Had Clinton won, the coverage would have been “historic”.

    Greatest woman to have walked the Earth.

    Notwithstanding the fact that over 50 countries around the world have already had woman heads-of-state.

  13. Trump says:

    Regardless of whether the stock market signifies the performance of the economy, who wants to run for re-election on a falling stock market?

  14. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Republicans also used to complain about Executive Orders. Apparently, they are acceptable now. Funny how that works.

  15. Chicon says:

    Flake not running for reelection.

  16. Trump says:

    Two down, more to go.

  17. Trump says:

    Who’s next? Heller? Wicker?

    How many in the House?

  18. Trump says:

    Technically, three down. One defeated in primary, two cried “uncle”.

  19. Robbie says:

    President Moron continues to destroy the party.

    Alex Isenstadt?
    @politicoalex 8m

    Flake not running for reelection, senior goper confirms

  20. Trump says:

    The cretin loves Flake.

    Losers love losers like Flake and Jeb!

    There’s a pattern.

  21. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 2:57 pm
    Flake not running for reelection.

    – I remember I wrote back in April/May things would only get worse with Trump. You said I was wrong. Nope. You were wrong.

  22. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    The cretin loves Flake.
    Losers love losers like Flake and Jeb!
    There’s a pattern.

    – Whereas you love your dominant hand and what it can do for the pleasure center of the pea sized brain.

  23. Trump says:

    “NFL Losing Viewers At Alarming Rate But Faces Limits On Its Response”

    Lesson – don’t tangle with Trump. The list of losers is becoming endless.

  24. Trump says:

    The mother fu cki ng moron Robbie is triggered.

    Life is good.

  25. Trump says:

    Howl at the moon, cretin.

  26. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 24, 2017 at 2:06 pm
    7 – Van Jones on CNN’s election night coverage needed psychiatric help too.

    – And on election night 2018, faux conservative commenters on FoxNews are going to need physciatric help after Nancy Pelosi becomes Speaker precisely because the Trump chumps and sycophants laid down and let Trump butt screw the party.

  27. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:04 pm
    Howl at the moon, cretin.

    – Blow me.

  28. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump did not give Flake an 18 percent approval rating.

  29. DW says:

    10 – oh I know. Having gone through election night coverages several times, it was abundantly obvious to me that most of the networks had done little to no show prep for actually analyzing the results–there was supposed to be nothing to analyze. They WERE well prepared to cheer Hillary and make fun of Trump. So when it didn’t go as planned they were left flat-footed and one analyst would just repeat what the others were saying because they hadn’t planned to consider the possibility Trump would even keep it close, much less win.

    One of the things I missed the first few times through the Fox News coverage…

    12:30 am

    Megyn Kelly on Fox News says that New York Magazine has an edition on news stands right now with a nasty looking face of Donald Trump with the word ‘LOSER’ across his face. Chris Wallace alludes to the ‘Dewey Defeats Truman’ Chicago Tribune release. Tucker Carlson relates a conversation he had with someone in the print media who was pre-printing their material with a Clinton win. When asked if they should really be doing that, because what if Trump wins? The answer from everyone in the room was a sarcastic, ‘Come on now!’ and ‘Go to the children’s table, you are an idiot.’

    –I had heard of the ‘Madam President’ Newsweek special edition that jumped the gun, but I hadn’t heard of the New York Magazine.

  30. Trump says:

    Your mother will, cretin.

  31. Robbie says:

    JC says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:06 pm
    Another one bites the dust!
    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/2017/10/24/republican-senator-jeff-flake-announces-not-running-senate-reelection-gop-primary-ward-trump/793952001/

    – Hey, look the moron brigade it out in full force today.

    Congrats to the Democrat on her likely win in Arizona next year.

    SEND A MESSAGE! Tell Mitch McConnell you want conservative results by making Chuck Schumer Senate Majority Leader and Nancy Pelosi Speaker. MAGA!

  32. JC says:

    Trump says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    “NFL Losing Viewers At Alarming Rate But Faces Limits On Its Response”

    Lesson – don’t tangle with Trump. The list of losers is becoming endless.
    ———————

    I predict that after today, we will no longer see Republican lawmakers openly criticize Trump anymore.

    Everyone who tangles with Trump comes out worse for it. Just ask Flake, Corker, CNN, the NFL, or any of the 16 GOP primary candidates…

  33. Trump says:

    The greatest thing about Trump presidency is the amount of cra* he is dumping on cretin Robbie.

  34. DW says:

    27 – the 2010 redistricting has built-in limits on what Democrats can gain. Now after 2020 redistricting, all bets could be off.

  35. Mr.Vito says:

    A senator with an 18 percent approval rating wont be beating any Democrat.

  36. Trump says:

    33: Don’t forget the queen of them all, Hillary.

  37. mnw says:

    Heller’s chances of winning the GOP primary remain pretty good, unlike Flake’s were.

    The AZ Senate situation is unclear in that McCain’s seat may be up for grabs too. I’m not sure an AZ GOP congressman will want to enter the race to replace Flake. From a congressman’s viewpoint, there’s a lot of downside: up or out; probably be branded GOPe; & Ward has a big FR head start. Trump has already implied that he supports Ward… although ask Luther Strange how much that helps.

  38. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:08 pm
    Trump did not give Flake an 18 percent approval rating.

    – BS! Trump, a reckless idiot who has caused chaos and destruction in everything he has done as president, has wrecked the political environment for Republicans across the country. His asinine behavior and idiotic talk radio positions created a culture where idiots like Kelli ward are praised and quality legislators are mocked.

    I’m sorry you fell for Trump’s routine, but you did. You can deny it all you want, but he’s a moron and you support his destructive habits.

  39. Trump says:

    Destructive for whom, cretin Robbie?

  40. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:11 pm
    The greatest thing about Trump presidency is the amount of cra* he is dumping on cretin Robbie.

    – Whereas you like having people crap in your mouth.

  41. Trump says:

    Not the country, the economy or the the stock market, for sure.

  42. DW says:

    “who has caused chaos and destruction in everything he has done as president”

    I didn’t realize you were opposed to Neil Gorsuch.

  43. Trump says:

    Greatest president ever, moron.

    Suck it.

  44. Trump says:

    A lying fuc ktard like Corker is decimated? Good.

    Jeb? Awesome

    McCain? Who could ask for anything more.

  45. GPO says:

    one year ago today !

    Hillary Clinton
    ?@HillaryClinton

    Donald Trump refused to say that he’d respect the results of this election.

    That’s a direct threat to our democracy.

    1:53 PM – Oct 24, 2016

  46. Trump says:

    More of the same, please.

  47. Trump says:

    Trump shines the light, and the cockroaches scatter.

  48. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:11 pm
    27 – the 2010 redistricting has built-in limits on what Democrats can gain. Now after 2020 redistricting, all bets could be off.

    – This sounds like the argument Democrats made in 2016 that demographics meant Trump had no chance of winning. Well, how’d that work out for Clinton?

    If you’re betting on the 2010 and 2014 demographics to save Republicans, you’re going to be in for a rude awakening. Independents have strongly turned against Republicans and Trump’s approval with them is as low, if not lower, than Obama’s ever was.

    At this point in 2005, only 6-10 House seats were considered in doubt. Already in this cycle, you can find as many as 30 seats that are going to be competitive.

  49. Waingro says:

    Flake flaked out. 🙂

  50. Mr.Vito says:

    I guess it makes Robbie feel better to lie about people.

    It’s okay. Let him get it out.

  51. Trump says:

    Now he and McCain, two actual deadenders, can screw the rest of the GOP without any checks.

    Good times.

  52. Phil says:

    Robbie,

    Flake had an 18% approval rating. You think he was going to win reelection? You can’t be that naive.

  53. Mr.Vito says:

    It takes a lot more than a few deadenders to get an 18 percenr approval rating.

  54. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:14 pm
    “who has caused chaos and destruction in everything he has done as president”
    I didn’t realize you were opposed to Neil Gorsuch.

    – Who made the appointment of Neil Gorsuch possible It was Mitch McConnell and yet the Bronxie wing of the party wants him strung up by his balls.

    I’m genuinely surprised to see you, of all people, go to bat for President Moron, but so be it.

    That said, if all the Trump chumps have to offer in support of President Moron is “but Gorsuch”, then that shows how massive his first year and last three will be as president.

  55. Waingro says:

    I hope Jeff DeWit and David Schweikert consider stepping in now in AZ. I’m not a huge fan of Ward, and I could easily see her losing in the general.

  56. Trump says:

    53: “You can’t be that naive.”

    Have you read his posts over time?

    Naive is not the word. Starts with “R”

  57. Phil says:

    “as many as thirty seats are going to be competitive”

    …and Democrats are going to have to win 23 of them.

    not likely.

  58. Waingro says:

    Oh and countdown until PPP releases a poll showing Ward all of sudden beating Sinema by almost double digits in 3….2….

  59. Trump says:

    The beatings will continue until the GOP improves.

    Trump has 7 more years to get them in shape.

  60. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:18 pm
    I guess it makes Robbie feel better to lie about people.
    It’s okay. Let him get it out.

    – You fell for Trump’s routine. That is not a lie. You put your faith in a person who is disgusting and unqualified. Your excuse that previous politicians have failed is hardly reason to turn to someone how had no experience and lacks the mental acuity to do the job.

    But hey, at least he fights back against Gold Star parents and Gold Star widows when they say mean thing about him. At least he attacks the mayor of San Juan for complaining about the pace of recovery while grading himself a 10 even though 82% of the island still doesn’t have power. AT least he has the courage to tell everyone that Mika was bleeding from her facelift.

    MAGA!

  61. Phil says:

    uh, there is the following –

    cutting regulation

    pulling out of the Paris accords

    reevaluating the Iranian deal

    rebuilding the military

    It isn’t just judges. Cut the crap.

  62. DW says:

    49 – I disagree. 2016 was a POTUS year, with two equally unpopular candidates, and yet the GOP only lost a few house seats–when they were predicted to lose around 20 or more. I remember dire warnings that John Katko (R) in NY would lose his seat in a purple district, but instead he trounced his opponent. It remains to be seen what is going to happen in the mid-terms, but if anything, Trump has taught us to not lean on past patterns to predict current elections. So I discard past patterns, and appeal only to the actual fact that 2010 redistricting gave the GOP a ten year advantage to limit what the dems can gain. Now some of the states have had GOP seats robbed by unelected activist judges, but there is still many states where large number of democrats are still safely herded into the cesspool pens of their inner cities, and won’t be able to overturn GOP incumbents. Not unless tens of thousands of them leave the city and move into the suburbs and country.

  63. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:19 pm
    Robbie,
    Flake had an 18% approval rating. You think he was going to win reelection? You can’t be that naive.

    – And why did he have an 18% approval rating, Phil? Why? Because President Moron spent much of the last 18 months attacking him and stoking the anti-immigration base of the party to hate him. His approval rating, as is the case with all Republican Senators, is low because Trump has been a terrible president. The toxic culture Trump has created and his petty personal attacks have stymied every Republican.

    If you want to support Chemtrail Kelli Ward, great. Just don’t call yourself a conservative.

  64. JC says:

    I would really like to see Trent Franks run for Flake’s seat now.

  65. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has a lot more than Gorsuch to offer republicans on the executive side a year into the presidency. The senate has nothing to offer… thats why GOP senators keep seeing themselves crater in approval by fighting with Trump.

    I know… blah blah Trump Chumps… you just isolate yourself more by picking fights with the people here who dont care for Trump but are objective.

  66. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    I hope Jeff DeWit and David Schweikert consider stepping in now in AZ. I’m not a huge fan of Ward, and I could easily see her losing in the general.

    – Yeah. Let’s get more Trump clones as the face of the party. I mean Roy Moore is working out so well.

    The anti-immigration nuts are going to turn the Republican party into a permanent minority and will discredit the conservative movement for a decade.

  67. Phil says:

    I’m looking for a stronger candidate than Ward to jump into the race.

  68. Waingro says:

    #63, I think the House is going to be close, but at this point, without more data, I give the R’s a slight edge to retain.

    What’s kind of ironic and fascinating though is if the GOP holds onto just a bare majority in the House come 2019, the Freedom Caucus will actually be MORE empowered versus less, as all of those seats should still be quite safe.

    In other words: it is quite possible we could see more conservative legislative efforts circling through Congress even with Dem “gains”.

  69. Chicon says:

    Robbie continues to see things through the white hot hate for Trump.

    Flake sez Trump’s ruining everything, so he says the moral thing to do is quit.

  70. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:22 pm
    “as many as thirty seats are going to be competitive”
    …and Democrats are going to have to win 23 of them.
    not likely.

    – Keep telling yourself that. Trump is salting the earth for Republicans. Look at how unpopular he’s become and look at how unpopular he’s made the Republican Party in just nine months as president.

  71. Waingro says:

    “Yeah. Let’s get more Trump clones as the face of the party. I mean Roy Moore is working out so well.”

    I assume this is shot at DeWitt, who I know Trump has openly supported. While he may lean heavily “Trumpkin”, I would not even put him in the same stratosphere as Moore. And he would be easily more electable statewide than Ward.

  72. Chicon says:

    67 – what did your guy Flake think was going to happen if he quit, someone like him was gonna replace him?

  73. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    Robbie continues to see things through the white hot hate for Trump.
    Flake sez Trump’s ruining everything, so he says the moral thing to do is quit.

    – And I see you continue to see things through rose colored glasses when it comes to Trump. At every step, you’ve been wrong about Trump. You spent most of the Spring defended him and look at what that’s gotten you. You even defended Andrew Napolitano’s claim that British intelligence spied on Trump for Obama.

  74. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently every poster from across the political spectrum is just out to get Robbie…

  75. JC says:

    Robbie says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    The anti-immigration nuts are going to turn the Republican party into a permanent minority and will discredit the conservative movement for a decade.
    ——————-

    Um, I’m pretty sure that there’s only one thing in the world that would ensure a permanent republican minority, and that’s unchecked rampant immigration from poor, socialist-loving countries.

    Trump was probably the most hardcore immigration hawk to run for president in modern times… and he won. And the GOP retained their majorities.

    Isn’t it funny how the GOP always wins when they make immigration a central issue?

  76. DW says:

    “I’m genuinely surprised to see you, of all people, go to bat for President Moron, but so be it.”

    What you don’t seem willing to accept is the fact that Trump, like it or not, IS the president. I am not really going to bat for him–I have no power to add or detract. I am just observing the reality that Trump is in the White House, and I am hoping he can do the best possible for the country. I don’t expect him to be perfect, or even close to perfect–especially in his manner, but I gain nothing by throwing stones at him and hoping for his demise.

    Some say Trump is reshaping the GOP, and maybe he is. Maybe it needs reshaping, given the fact that we have elected GOP wimp after GOP wimp for most of my lifetime–candidates who reach across the isle, and end up being functional Democrats while we never see Democrats come across the isle to work with Republicans.

    My biggest fear with Trump was that he would end up just doing the bidding of Schumer and Pelosi. But thus far, he seems interested in governing more conservative than I expected–so I am keeping an open mind.

    But make no mistake, I want Trump to succeed with conservative ideals. I still don’t personally like him. Both can be true.

  77. GPO says:

    Robbie says:

    October 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    The anti-immigration nuts are going to turn the Republican party into a permanent minority and will discredit the conservative movement for a decade.

    lololol- yeah its killing them electorally throughout the country

    lololololol- yeah its been killing republicans so much they have more governors

  78. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    I’m looking for a stronger candidate than Ward to jump into the race.

    – Who? DeWit? Ha! McSalley? Sure, but I guarantee you Bannon, NYCMike, and their ilk will find her unacceptable.

    The “machine guns on the border crowd” is wrecking the Republican party and discrediting the conservative movement, BUT GORSUCH!

  79. Robbie says:

    GPO says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    Robbie says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    The anti-immigration nuts are going to turn the Republican party into a permanent minority and will discredit the conservative movement for a decade.
    lololol- yeah its killing them electorally throughout the country
    lololololol- yeah its been killing republicans so much they have more governors

    – All you care about is the melatonin in someone’s skin so I don’t really care what an immigration only voter thinks.

  80. Trump says:

    “Apparently every poster from across the political spectrum is just out to get Robbie…”

    You have to look at the train-wreck of a human being.

    It is a rare sight.

  81. Waingro says:

    #71, so Robbie: what is your prediction for the midterms? Massive blue tidal wave landslide? Dems take Senate?

  82. Mr.Vito says:

    “All you care about is the melatonin in someone’s skin so I don’t really care what an immigration only voter thinks.”

    Is there some evidence of this charge against longtime poster GPO?

  83. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:34 pm
    67 – what did your guy Flake think was going to happen if he quit, someone like him was gonna replace him?

    – Spare me. I’m pissed that the candidate you continually defend regardless of his idiocy has created an environment where genuinely conservative candidates like Flake can’t win. And anyone who thinks Flake isn’t conservative is really dumb.

  84. Phil says:

    You really think border security is about the “melatonin in a person’s skin”? Really?

    Robbie, until this moment I never realized exactly how out of touch you really are.

  85. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:39 pm
    “Apparently every poster from across the political spectrum is just out to get Robbie…”
    You have to look at the train-wreck of a human being.
    It is a rare sight.

    – The rare sight is seeing a fraud like you be treated with any amount of seriousness.

  86. Mr.Vito says:

    “The rare sight is seeing a fraud like you be treated with any amount of seriousness.”

    We don’t treat either of you seriously.

    But, at least Trump has something funny or interesting to say…

  87. Trump says:

    Are you just making cra& up, cretin?

  88. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm
    You really think border security is about the “melatonin in a person’s skin”? Really?
    Robbie, until this moment I never realized exactly how out of touch you really are.

    – For a portion of the base, yes I absolutely believe skin color is a factor in immigration. Deal with it.

    It’s one thing for someone like you in a border state to worry about border security, but why is it a big deal in Iowa or Kentucky? Why does an immigration obsessed Congressman like Steve King make comments like he does when he lives 1000 miles from the border?

    And if border security and a wall are so darn important, where’s your interest in a wall with Canada?

  89. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:48 pm
    “The rare sight is seeing a fraud like you be treated with any amount of seriousness.”
    We don’t treat either of you seriously.
    But, at least Trump has something funny or interesting to say…

    – I feel the same for sock puppets.

  90. Trump says:

    I am glad to hear you think someone takes me seriously, cretin. Just shows your level of brain.

    Who takes an anonymous poster on an obscure blog seriously? Except you and that stupid moron Bitterlaw, of course?

  91. Trump says:

    The mother fu ck in g cretin just called everyone a racist.

    Hey as*hole, the term these days is “white supremacist”.

  92. Phil says:

    I don’t have to deal with it. It’s BS.

    Where’s my interest in a Canadian wall? There is no flood of illegal immigrants from Canada. You can’t be that stupid.

  93. Trump says:

    “Racist” is so last year.

  94. Mr.Vito says:

    “But, at least Trump has something funny or interesting to say…

    – I feel the same for sock puppets.”

    Thanks.

  95. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm
    You really think border security is about the “melatonin in a person’s skin”? Really?
    Robbie, until this moment I never realized exactly how out of touch you really are.

    – Just as importantly, I view out of touch as being people who harp about conservatism and conservative Senate candidates only to turn around and shill for a lifelong liberal.

    Yeah sure you don’t like everything he tweets or everything he say, but big deal. You still support the presidency of someone who is wildly unprepared and incapable of governing.

  96. Trump says:

    You just keep posting cra&, cretin.

    All it proves is Trump is fu ck in g you every day, and your mind (the little it is) is screwed upside down.

  97. Trump says:

    There is nothing objectionable in Trump’s tweets.

    More like, pearls of wisdom.

    And eventually all of them are accurate.

  98. Wes says:

    Flake is retiring.

    Brown is a wifebeater.

    Overall good news on the Senate front today.

  99. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:51 pm
    I don’t have to deal with it. It’s BS.
    Where’s my interest in a Canadian wall? There is no flood of illegal immigrants from Canada. You can’t be that stupid.

    – How do you know there’s not a flood of illegal immigrants from Canada? Is that because FoxNews hasn’t sent their cameras there to stir up nationalist hate or Trump hasn’t taken his gong show to the northern border while wearing one of his red hats?

    If you believe in border security, you believe in border security.

  100. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:56 pm
    Flake is retiring.
    Brown is a wifebeater.
    Overall good news on the Senate front today.

    – Trump remains president so that is overall terrible news for Republicans.

  101. Wes says:

    If DeWit enters the primary, he can dispatch the loon and would be a favorite against the moonbat.

  102. Phil says:

    I don’t shill for anyone. I gave you a list of things I like about what Trump has done. All are consistent with conservatism.

  103. Wes says:

    That will be the case till at least 1-20-2021, Robbie.

    At least Trump isn’t actively trying to be the next GWB.

  104. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:52 pm
    “But, at least Trump has something funny or interesting to say…

    – Old hotness- I want a president who can govern.

    New hotness- At least he’s funny and interesting (both are lies by the way).

  105. DW says:

    I am not anti-immigration. I am anti-ILLEGAL-immigration.

  106. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:58 pm
    I don’t shill for anyone. I gave you a list of things I like about what Trump has done. All are consistent with conservatism.

    – Your obsession with Paris (a voluntary agreement) is hardly a reason to continue supporting a person who attacks Gold Star families, picks fight with his own party on Twitter, who attacks a woman over a facelift on Twitter, and does all of the other idiotic things is hardly reason to continue supporting him since he is verifiably hurting the Republican Party.

  107. Phil says:

    How do I know there is not a flood of illegals from Canada?

    Seriously? Did you just really post that? You are completely out of your mind.

    Yeah, they’re flooding across the border alright. Huge problem. LOL

  108. Phil says:

    Voluntary agreement or not, it was a joke. Obsessed by it? Hardly. It was one of a series of things I listed for you.

  109. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm
    I am not anti-immigration. I am anti-ILLEGAL-immigration.

    – Poll the Arizona primary electorate. I suspect a large number will feel much differently than you do. In fact, I suspect a good portion of the Republican base feels differently than you.

  110. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm
    How do I know there is not a flood of illegals from Canada?
    Seriously? Did you just really post that? You are completely out of your mind.
    Yeah, they’re flooding across the border alright. Huge problem. LOL

    – Seriously, yes I did just post that. There are plenty of stories about terrorists attempting to cross the Canadian border into the US. Several have been caught in recent years.

    If you believe so strongly in border security and in the wall, then why not one with Canada? Is there a difference between an illegal that crosses the Mexican border looking to work here and one who crosses the northern border looking to blow up something?

  111. Phil says:

    Sorry, Robbie, there actually is a difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration. They aren’t the same. I know the left likes to blur that distinction.

  112. Mr.Vito says:

    “Old hotness- I want a president who can govern.
    New hotness- At least he’s funny and interesting (both are lies by the way).”

    The premise for ‘funny interesting’ was ‘not to be taken seriously’ so this falls flat…

    (i.e. not serious, not interesting, not funny)

  113. Phil says:

    Plenty of stories? Uh, no there are not. However, border security is awaaay broader issue than keeping terrorist out….but you know that.

  114. Robbie says:

    The simple fact is this and it’s something the Trump chumps don’t want to accept. Flake and Heller, along with many House Republicans, were/are in trouble because of Trump and his nasty/erratic persona and his disastrous first year as president.

    Had any other Republican been nominated and elected president, he/she wouldn’t have spent the last nine months attacking his own party on Twitter, attacking his own cabinet secretaries on twitter, or fired the FBI director in an effort to stop the Russian investigation.

    With any other Republican president, that person’s approval rating would be over 50%, tax reform and health reform would be done, and Republicans would be talking about getting close to 60 seats in the Senate.

    Instead, we’ve got nine months of crap that has made every Republican far more unpopular than they should be.

  115. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    With Flake’s “retirement”, the GOP stands a much better chance at keeping his seat in 2018.

  116. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:11 pm
    Plenty of stories? Uh, no there are not. However, border security is awaaay broader issue than keeping terrorist out….but you know that.

    – If it’s a waaaaaay broader issue, then why are you not concerned with the Canadian border?

  117. Mr.Vito says:

    Because he hates brown people, right?

  118. Wes says:

    Heller is in trouble because Danny Tarkanian is on an ego-driven kamikaze mission.

    Flake never established a personal brand in his state unlike McCain.

    I blame neither on Trump.

  119. Mr.Vito says:

    Another Trump Chump…

  120. Robbie says:

    I’d love to see the Trump chumps make the case Flake isn’t a conservative and, in fact, infinitely more conservative than President Moron.

  121. Wes says:

    Indeed, Trump has motivated the Left.

    On the other hand, the Left is undercutting itself by repeating the same mistakes against Trump it made against GWB from 2002 to 2004.

    It looks like a wash, which is why I expect 2018 to be 1970 Redux.

  122. Phil says:

    Because the ten to 12 million illegals in our country did not come from Canada. End of story. If it were a problem I would be concerned about the northern border. Ok?

  123. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm
    Because he hates brown people, right?

    – If you don’t think skin color has played a role in how a portion of the Republican primary base has come to it’s position on immigration, then you haven’t been paying attention.

  124. Mr.Vito says:

    “If you don’t think skin color has played a role in how a portion of the Republican primary base has come to it’s position on immigration, then you haven’t been paying attention.”

    Are you going to say Phil hates brown people or not?

  125. Wes says:

    Jeff Flake is a Goldwater-style conservativr with very high across-the-board rankings from conservative groups.

    He’s also a bland candidate who’s never been so assiduous in appealing to voters’ concerns as McCain.

    The latter is why Flake is heading for the exit doors.

  126. Mr.Vito says:

    Either Phil hates brown people or he has given other legitimate reasons for being worried about the border with Mexico. Which is it?

  127. Phil says:

    I see Heller surviving the perennial loser in a primary. He will be fine I think.

  128. Wes says:

    Phil has no problem with Latinos. He has a problem with ILLEGAL Latinos and other criminals.

    End of discussion.

  129. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm
    Heller is in trouble because Danny Tarkanian is on an ego-driven kamikaze mission.
    Flake never established a personal brand in his state unlike McCain.
    I blame neither on Trump.

    – Assume for a moment Republican other than Trump is president. Do you actually think Flake or Heller would be in the same trouble with the base they are today? They were/are in trouble because Trump has made it his mission the last nine months to fight with the party and pit himself against anyone who disagrees with him. He’s made these primaries a loyalty test between himself and anyone who doesn’t show fealty to him.

    None of this would have happened had Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, or any other Republican been elected.

  130. Wes says:

    I hope Heller survives, Phil. He’s been a team player while being a Senator from a Dem-friendly state.

    Honestly if Heller is unacceptable to the GOP, then the party is well on the way to marginalizing itself nationally.

  131. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm
    “If you don’t think skin color has played a role in how a portion of the Republican primary base has come to it’s position on immigration, then you haven’t been paying attention.”
    Are you going to say Phil hates brown people or not?

    – No and he knows that because we’d had this discussion before. That said, race has clearly played a role in how the Republican base has come to view the issue.

  132. Mr.Vito says:

    “No and he knows that because we’d had this discussion before.”

    And, you still suck at it.

  133. Wes says:

    Um, Robbie, Heller has been loyal to what Trump wants. You might want to check the good Senator’s voting record. Danny Tarkanian can’t accept that and wants to be next year’s Bill Janklow to Heller’s Jim Abdnor.

    Blame Tarkanian, not Trump.

    Flake has stepped on too many toes in Washington and at home to be a realistic prospect for reelection.

  134. Phil says:

    Agree, Wes. If Heller is not acceptable to the GOP we are indeed finished as a party.

  135. Chicon says:

    Robbie’s unhinged reaction to this news is some of the best reading on this site since the election.

    Note to others….discussing actual topics with the flyboy is useless – he only reads what fills the dichotomous picture of a poster as a Trump lover or Trump hater. There is no in-between for him.

  136. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm
    Phil has no problem with Latinos. He has a problem with ILLEGAL Latinos and other criminals.
    End of discussion.

    – I have not and would never suggest anything like that. Phil’s position is well known and totally understandable, but to suggest race hasn’t played a role in how many in the Republican base have come to view immigration is just wrong.

    For goodness sake, just the other night a person at a Bannon speech last week yelled “hang him” when Bannon spoke about McCain.

  137. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:29 pm
    “No and he knows that because we’d had this discussion before.”
    And, you still suck at it.

    – And you suck at being a Trump defender, but then again it is hard to defend the indefensible.

  138. Trump says:

    “None of this would have happened had Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, or any other Republican been elected.”

    As*hole, here’s news for you.

    The voters rejected each of them. GOP voters.

  139. Waingro says:

    “Brown is a wifebeater.”

    Wait– what is this about, Wed? Sherrod Brown??

  140. Trump says:

    “…yelled “hang him” when Bannon spoke about McCain.”

    And the problem is?

  141. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:30 pm
    Robbie’s unhinged reaction to this news is some of the best reading on this site since the election.
    Note to others….discussing actual topics with the flyboy is useless – he only reads what fills the dichotomous picture of a poster as a Trump lover or Trump hater. There is no in-between for him.

    – Conversely, your continual defending of Trump has been sad to watch. You even tried to defend Andrew Napolitano’s idiotic claim that British intelligence spied on Trump for Obama.

  142. Mr.Vito says:

    “None of this would have happened had Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, or any other Republican been elected.”

    A set of measure zero.

    You see Trump as a cause rather than a symptom.

  143. Trump says:

    Losers and cretins like to throw the “race” card.

    Get a new hobby, cretin as*hole.

  144. Wes says:

    Wain, credible allegations surfaced recently that Sherrod Brown beat and intimidated his first wife during 1986 divorce proceedings. The allegations were credible enough for a judge to issue a restraining order against Brown.

    Josh Mandel is currently using the 1986 allegations against Brown.

    Hey, if it’s good enough for Obama, Josh Mandel can do it too.

  145. Mr.Vito says:

    “And you suck at being a Trump defender…”

    At least you finally admit I don’t defend him… baby steps.

  146. Chicon says:

    130 – no kidding?!?! The reason those other guys aren’t President is because those pesky voters didn’t want them. In turn, they are the reason guys like Flake are having trouble. Trump is more the effect than the cause.

  147. Phil says:

    No, Robbie to my knowledge has not ever said my position on illegal immigration was related to racism.

    However, that is used all the time by those on the left who favor open borders and I have always resented them doing so. Totally dishonest.

  148. Mr.Vito says:

    “No, Robbie to my knowledge has not ever said my position on illegal immigration was related to racism.”

    He just likes implying it frequently.

  149. Wes says:

    Here you go, Wain.

  150. Chicon says:

    142 – thanks for proving that you have a reading comprehension problem.

  151. Waingro says:

    #145, wow. That is certainly big news.

    That is one seat I definitely have my eye on as a pickup. Ohio is trending redder and redder. I can’t see how a far left nut like Brown is a fit the Buckeye State anymore.

  152. Mr.Vito says:

    Suddenly all the anti-Trump people who want border security want it for legitimate conservative reasons, and everyone else wants it because of skin color… rich.

  153. Waingro says:

    #151, Wes: FYI: that looks like an old link from the previous 2012 campaign. Is Mandel recirculating that again?

  154. Wes says:

    Brown is the last Dem left standing statewide in Ohio, Wain. If Mandel beats him, we’re looking at a return to the McKinley-Harding Ohio of the early 20th Century.

  155. Wes says:

    That’s what RRH had posted, Wain. Apparently Mandel is stepping up things this time around.

  156. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:36 pm
    “No, Robbie to my knowledge has not ever said my position on illegal immigration was related to racism.”
    He just likes implying it frequently.

    – A lie. I have never implied Phil’s position on immigration is anything other than well intentioned.

    I do not agree it should be issue Number 1 when it comes to candidate selection though.

  157. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:37 pm
    142 – thanks for proving that you have a reading comprehension problem.

    – You infrequently visit, but when you do you always shill for Trump.

  158. Chicon says:

    Robbie – what’s the latest on the Russian collusion thing. You used to post on that almost daily.

  159. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:38 pm
    Suddenly all the anti-Trump people who want border security want it for legitimate conservative reasons, and everyone else wants it because of skin color… rich.

    – Sad to see you distort what I’ve written, but going to bat day after day for Trump causes people to go to bad places.

  160. Waingro says:

    #157, got ya.

  161. Mr.Vito says:

    “A lie.”

    Totally the truth. Why does Phil not have concerns about the Canadian border?

  162. Chicon says:

    159 – further reading comprehension difficulties.

  163. lisab says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 3:22 pm
    “as many as thirty seats are going to be competitive”
    …and Democrats are going to have to win 23 of them.
    not likely.

    – Keep telling yourself that. Trump is salting the earth for Republicans. Look at how unpopular he’s become and look at how unpopular he’s made the Republican Party in just nine months as president. Robbie
    ——————————————–

    so then you are predicting the republicans will lose 23+ house seats?

  164. Mr.Vito says:

    More Trump Chumps…

  165. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:43 pm
    Robbie – what’s the latest on the Russian collusion thing. You used to post on that almost daily.

    – What’s the status of Andrew Napolitano’s claim Obama used the British to spy on Trump?

    If you weren’t such an infrequent poster, you’d know I’ve always said Trump and his campaign were far too incompetent to collude with Russia.

    That said, I have predicted Manafort and Flynn will be indicted over their actions during the campaign. On top of that, I believe Trump will NOT be found to have obstructed justice when he fired Comey even though his intent was clearly to stop the Russia investigation.

  166. Chicon says:

    165 – well…..he’ll say that until just before the election, then give 6-8 official predictions that cover all possible outcomes.

  167. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:44 pm
    “A lie.”
    Totally the truth. Why does Phil not have concerns about the Canadian border?

    – If you want border security, why is the discussion always focused solely on Mexico? If we need a wall on the border, we need a wall on the border and Canada is on the border.

  168. Mr.Vito says:

    “…why is the discussion always focused solely on Mexico?”

    Yeah, why, Phil?

  169. Chicon says:

    167 – they’re far too incompetent to collude with the Russians, but they’re smart enough to realign the whole Republican party?

  170. Chicon says:

    169 – lol, Soros expects better from you.

  171. Mr.Vito says:

    “…but they’re smart enough to realign the whole Republican party?”

    BANNON! BANNNNNNNONNNNNNNNNNNN!

  172. mnw says:

    Tell me if a tax cut passes, & I’ll tell u whether I think the GOP holds the House.

  173. Phil says:

    You are inferring again, Robbie and I don’t like it.

    One last time – THERE IS NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM ON THE NORTHERN BORDER!

    THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

  174. Mr.Vito says:

    “THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!”

    Not a legitimate reason, Phil. What’s the real reason? hmm? hmmmmmmm?

  175. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:47 pm
    165 – well…..he’ll say that until just before the election, then give 6-8 official predictions that cover all possible outcomes.

    – This is a concept that seems hard for the Trump chumps to comprehend, but it’s possible to think something now and then change as the facts change. I thought changing as new facts come in was a good thing, but not in Trumplandia I guess.

    That being said, right now, yes, I believe Republicans will lose the House. Trump is wildly unpopular, Independents have a terrible view of Trump, Republicans are retiring, and there is fight within the party about what it means to be a Republican. Throw in no legislative accomplishments and that is a recipe for disaster.

    As I have said since April, if Trump’s approval average is above 45% on election day, Republicans probably win the House. If it’s below 40% on election day, they lose the House. If it’s between 40 and 45, then anything can happen. Right now, President Moron is below 40% on average so I think they lose the House.

    Sorry my opinion isn’t MAGA approved.

  176. Trump says:

    It’d be a problem if the cretin was ever right.

    Brokered convention, as*hole?

  177. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    You are inferring again, Robbie and I don’t like it.
    One last time – THERE IS NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM ON THE NORTHERN BORDER!
    THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

    – SO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION DESERVES A WALL, BUT TERRORISTS WHO HAVE TRIED TO CROSS THE BORDER FROM CANADA DON’T?

  178. lisab says:

    i was just at home depot

    there were 30 Canadians hanging out

    “excuse me madame, would you like us to kill some baby seals for you? under the table of course.”

    when are we going to build that damn Canadian wall?

  179. Trump says:

    how does it feel to get thumped by President Moron, cretin Robbie?

    What are you, sub-human species?

  180. Phil says:

    Could the Democrats retake the House? Yes, it is possible and I have said so in the past. However, for that to happen they would need to expand the number of competitive districts beyond thirty.

  181. Trump says:

    What does it say bout you that you keep getting beaten up by President Moron?

  182. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 4:59 pm
    Could the Democrats retake the House? Yes, it is possible and I have said so in the past. However, for that to happen they would need to expand the number of competitive districts beyond thirty.

    – At this point in 2005, only 6-10 seats were in play. Democrats acknowledged they didn’t see a wave forming in 2006 until October of that year. We’re already at 30 seats in play and we haven’t come close to hitting rock bottom with Trump as president. 2018 could be to Democrats what 2010 was to Republicans. That doesn’t mean 60 seats, but it’s folly to buy into the idea there aren’t enough seats for Democrats to win 12 months out.

  183. Phil says:

    Exactly, Robbie. The problem of millions of illegals crossing the border in the south merits a wall. A wall on the north where there is no illegal immigration and just the possibility of a handful of terrorists coming in is not cost effective.

    Not complicated.

  184. Chicon says:

    177 – but you opinion is MAGA-hate influenced, as always.

    This is the part you’ll ignore in an effort to keep your dichotomous mindset intact. I didn’t support Trump in the primaries, and was shocked he was nominated. I did vote for him in the general. I have a solid distaste for his personality and how he does things. But I support the conservative things he’s done, and wants to do. See how that works? Two thoughts/feelings at once….

  185. Mr.Vito says:

    The difference is that Canada has been a good partner in controlling the border and Mexico has not.

  186. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:03 pm
    Exactly, Robbie. The problem of millions of illegals crossing the border in the south merits a wall. A wall on the north where there is no illegal immigration and just the possibility of a handful of terrorists coming in is not cost effective.
    Not complicated.

    – By the way, the wall is a stupid idea. It will never be built either.

  187. Phil says:

    You asked me a question and I answered it.

    I don’t care what you think about the wall.

  188. Chicon says:

    187 – that’s not it Vito. Most who voted for Trump are rubes that could never see that difference. They’re simply racists who are afraid of brown people stealing their lawn mowing jobs.

  189. Chicon says:

    Why didn’t Flake resign if he’s so morally against how Trump operates?

  190. Robbie says:

    Maybe we can get Jan Brewer to run for Flake’s seat. She often can’t speak an entire sentence, but SHE FIGHTS!

  191. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:25 pm
    Why didn’t Flake resign if he’s so morally against how Trump operates?

    – Why won’t Trump resign since he’s so bad at the job?

  192. Wes says:

    You know, I live two houses down from some LEGAL Mexicans. They’re very friendly and industrious and own a legitimate business. They even gave my cousin a dog.

    I support measures to curtail illegal immigration so legal Latinos like my neighbors don’t have to be stigmatized by a subset of immigrants they’re not part of.

  193. Wes says:

    According to Mikey, Flake did resign, Chicon.

    Mikey sincerely believes retirement equals resignation.

    Actually Flake has no motive to resign as hanging on for another 14+ months adds to his congressional pension once he leaves office.

  194. Robbie says:

    Just for the record, I think Flake badly handled the last year. Writing an anti-Trump book was dumb if his goal was to run and win.

    That said, Trump and his merry band of buffoons had painted Flake as a cuck. Tina probably believed that nonsense, but no neutral observer could ever argue Flake was anything other than a conservative.

  195. Robbie says:

    Chemtrail may have some competition.

    Kevin Robillard?
    @PoliticoKevin

    Joe Arpaio tells @tedhesson a “lot of people want me to run for office, for Flake’s job.”

  196. Wes says:

    Arpaio and Ward can split the loony toon vote while an electable Republican such as Jeff DeWit can capture the sane vote and win.

  197. Chicon says:

    I agree, Wes. His speech touched on morals as a reason to retire. Said he had kids and grandkids to look in the eye. If that’s the case he should go now, imo. Any chance he’s concerned with who would be appointed to fill out his term?

  198. Chicon says:

    193 – good one.

  199. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:35 pm
    Arpaio and Ward can split the loony toon vote while an electable Republican such as Jeff DeWit can capture the sane vote and win.

    – DeWit is way too Trumpy for me. In fact, I look forward to the day Trump and his acolytes are gone. I’d much rather see Kyl come out of retirement of see McSally run. That said, McSally’s House seat would almost certainly be lost.

  200. Wes says:

    I doubt Flake would worry about whom Ducey would appoint. Ducey would probably pick DeWit or someone else with a proven electoral track record to have a leg up on holding the seat.

    This is all academic anyway as Flake isn’t leaving before 1-3-19.

  201. Wes says:

    Kyl’s 76. I doubt McSally seeks higher office unless McCain doesn’t make it.

  202. Wes says:

    For the record, Flake has a lifetime 93 score from ACU and a lifetime 96 score from CFG. He’s no liberal. He’s just a classic case of a fairly weak politician who realizes is time is up.

  203. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:43 pm
    Kyl’s 76. I doubt McSally seeks higher office unless McCain doesn’t make it.

    – Yes, but I’d like to see anyone who isn’t a Trump shill, sycophant, or supporter. In Arizona, that’s like four people unfortunately. The number will drastically increase in 2019 though.

  204. Phil says:

    McSally would be my choice, but Robbie is right that it would mean the loss of her House seat.

    I need to read up on Jeff DeWit.

    Ward is a loser in the general.

  205. Wes says:

    You do realize Trump as President is the head of the national GOP, Robbie. Most elected Republicans will support him unless he becomes another GWB and obliterates the party downballot.

  206. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:45 pm
    For the record, Flake has a lifetime 93 score from ACU and a lifetime 96 score from CFG. He’s no liberal. He’s just a classic case of a fairly weak politician who realizes is time is up.

    – His time would not have been up with any other Republican as president. If Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, or the others had been elected, Flake would be cruising to a re-election win. Instead, Moron spent months attacking Flake and driving a wedge between him and the base.

  207. Wes says:

    I wouldn’t mind if Ducey pulled a swerve and ran for the seat. Synema would have no chance against a popular sitting Governor.

    Arizona last elected a Dem Senator in 1988.

    Dennis DeConcini retired to escape the voters’ wrath in 1994.

  208. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:47 pm
    You do realize Trump as President is the head of the national GOP, Robbie. Most elected Republicans will support him unless he becomes another GWB and obliterates the party downballot.

    – Of course I realize that buffoon is the head of the national party and, after voters see what two years of his leadership looks like, you’ll almost certainly see the obliteration downballot.

    Come January 2019 (after the probable election loss) you’ll see the party leave Trump. Of course, it will be too late then.

  209. Phil says:

    Just read that Dewit had announced he wouldn’t seek another term as Treasurer.

    I take that to mean he is not interested in continuing in politics. Maybe the senate would be enough to entice him to stay in politics.

  210. Wes says:

    Yes, it would, Robbie. Flake would still have many of the same problems regardless of Trump.

    Sometimes, as Tip O’Neill once famously said, all politics is local.

  211. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:52 pm
    Yes, it would, Robbie. Flake would still have many of the same problems regardless of Trump.
    Sometimes, as Tip O’Neill once famously said, all politics is local.

    – His numbers were fine until Trump put him in the crosshairs. Trump has the ability to kill off his own party members. Trust me. If Trump decides he doesn’t like Wicker, he’ll be done too and we’ll get NYCMike’s man crush McDaniel.

    No other Republican president would do something so self defeating because other Republicans are actually Republicans who care about the party. Trump is not a Republican or a conservative only cares about himself.

  212. Wes says:

    The odds of Democrats’ winning big next year without an economic downturn are not very good, Robbie.

    The average first-midterm loss in the House for a President is 11-15 seats. That’s not enough for the Dems to flip the House.

    Clinton and Obama suffered catastrophic first-midterm losses because the country’s economic woes added to voter dissatisfaction with the Presidents’ party.

    Right now, Dems haven’t that advantage.

  213. Phil says:

    Right now, I see Republicans losing 10-12 seats in the House. I’ll go with GOP plus 1 or 2 in the senate. An economic downturn obviously would change everything.

  214. Wes says:

    Believe what you will, Robbie. Flake was always going to have trouble after his lackluster 2012 win. Trump may have exacerbated things, but Flake was never a solid bet for reelection even without Trump.

    He didn’t nail down his seat early as he should have and left too many openings for potential opponents to exploit.

  215. DW says:

    “None of this would have happened had Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, or any other Republican been elected.

    The voters rejected each of them. GOP voters.”

    This is misleading. Trump had a strong segment of voters show up in the GOP primary, but in the early primaries that mattered so much up through Super Tuesday, it was never anywhere near 50%. It was closer on average to about 35%–nowhere near a majority of GOP primary voters. The reason Trump won the nomination was largely due to the fact that he ran in a lane pretty much unique for his platform, although there was some overlap with Ted Cruz’s supporters. But all the other GOP candidates together got well more than 50% but they kept each other from winning delegates because no one would drop out.

    Moderate Republicans want to blame Trump for winning the nomination, but if they were honest, they should blame the huge egos of Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, and Carly Fiorina–many of them should have dropped out when it was apparent there was no way forward. And Huckabee, Paul and Santorum should have dropped long before IA, like Scott Walker, Lindsay Graham, Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal did. Some of these, by staying in, were actually working for Trump to ensure he won the nomination.

    But make no mistake, had this been a GOP primary like 2000, with only three main candidates, one of whom dropped out after only four states, then the outcome would have been much different.

    For instance, had the options starting in IA had been Marco Rubio, Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump, there is no way Rubio doesn’t get the nomination. Fiorina would have fizzled quickly, and Trump’s 35% wouldn’t be able to overcome the rest going to Rubio.

    Or, lets turn it around the other way. Lets say Trump ran in 2000 with his GOP primary followers of about 35%. Trump would have likely siphoned off some vote from Steve Forbes, and Trump might have been useful to prevent McCain from winning NH, but in the end GW Bush still would have gotten the nomination.

  216. Wes says:

    Economics drives politics.

    Does anyone think Hoover would have collapsed as President had Black Thursday not happened?

  217. DW says:

    “The average first-midterm loss in the House for a President is 11-15 seats. That’s not enough for the Dems to flip the House.”

    Wes, this is especially true given the 2010 redistricting that locked the Dems out from many seats that in the past were in play.

  218. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 5:56 pm
    The odds of Democrats’ winning big next year without an economic downturn are not very good, Robbie.
    The average first-midterm loss in the House for a President is 11-15 seats. That’s not enough for the Dems to flip the House.
    Clinton and Obama suffered catastrophic first-midterm losses because the country’s economic woes added to voter dissatisfaction with the Presidents’ party.
    Right now, Dems haven’t that advantage.

    – In midterm elections, the president’s approval rating is the best predictor when it comes the president’s party’s performance. Trump is at 38% despite the economy. That’s no small feat either. He had to work to achieve such a low rating with an economy that appears strong. Republican House members are going to pay the price for that.

  219. Phil says:

    The absolute worst political environment possible would mean a net loss of Nevada and Arizona seats. There simply are not any other Republican seats obtainable for Dems. Even that assumes vulnerable Dems in Trump state sweep all their races.

    The Republicans keep the Senate even in the worst case but would be wasting a golden opportunity to expand their majority.

  220. Wes says:

    I agree, DW. That plus Dems’ inability to even try to win back rural and exurban whites they lost because of Obama narrows considerably their path to 218.

    If a Dem wave were building right now, would Ed Gillespie be currently on the upswing in a state Trump won 44% in against the top votegetting Democrat of the past half decade?

  221. DW says:

    222-I think Gillespie will win.

  222. Wes says:

    Actually, Robbie, polling recently had Trump closer to the high 40s. That will cause Republicans to have a net loss of seats but isn’t enough to cost them Congress.

  223. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:01 pm
    Economics drives politics.
    Does anyone think Hoover would have collapsed as President had Black Thursday not happened?

    – If economics is driving everything, then why is Trump’s approval rating 38%?

    Trump, because of his behavior in office, is being judged on a different set of standards than past presidents. In the past, competency and stability were never in question. With Trump, they are.

  224. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:01 pm
    “The average first-midterm loss in the House for a President is 11-15 seats. That’s not enough for the Dems to flip the House.”
    Wes, this is especially true given the 2010 redistricting that locked the Dems out from many seats that in the past were in play.

    – Democrats had a lock on the electoral college in 2016 too.

  225. Wes says:

    I hope so, DW.

    VA is not a natural fit for the Dem coalition. Winning it back would be a boon to the national GOP.

  226. Wes says:

    Robbie, Democrats also had a weak nominee who made no personal connections with voters and had the FBI investigate her multiple times during the campaign.

    That was NEVER a recipe for success against a remotely competent Republican.

  227. Mr.Vito says:

    Once events have passed, it is more constructive to analyze what happened holistically. Why were there 17 candidates? Cause or symptom?

    Did Trump win because there were 17 candidates? or did the fact there were 17 candidates expose an ongoing problem with the GOPs ineffectiveness in pleasing its constituents and its lack of direction?

  228. Trump says:

    “Why won’t Trump resign since he’s so bad at the job?”

    Who says Trump is bad at his job, as*hat?

  229. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:07 pm
    Actually, Robbie, polling recently had Trump closer to the high 40s. That will cause Republicans to have a net loss of seats but isn’t enough to cost them Congress.

    – Which polls? Rasmussen? Some other robo-poll like Emerson?

    The highest Trump has been in the RCP average in the last FIVE months was 41.7%. In the other poll averages, Trump’s been lower.

    In fact, the Emerson robo-poll which had Trump at 44% was the highest in the RCP database since at least late June when a Fox poll had Trump at 44%.

  230. DW says:

    Wes, Gillespie is ever so close in the polling. Except for Quinnipiac all recent polls are single digits, and Monmouth has Gillespie up 1 point. In most recent VA statewide elections the Democrats are oversampled compared to the actual results. I am expecting Gillespie to win by a point.

  231. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:10 pm
    Robbie, Democrats also had a weak nominee who made no personal connections with voters and had the FBI investigate her multiple times during the campaign.
    That was NEVER a recipe for success against a remotely competent Republican.

    – I completely agree. I have made that case repeatedly. That said, Trump no longer has the benefit of being judged in comparison to Clinton. He is being judged on his own job and that is how voters will judge him and the party next year.

    The “but Hillary” argument that helped him get elected with 46% of the vote is done.

  232. Trump says:

    “Come January 2019 (after the probable election loss) you’ll see the party leave Trump. Of course, it will be too late then.”

    Brokered convention, cretin?

  233. Wes says:

    Robbie forgets Democrats have been unable to beat even weak Republicans in special elections since Trump took office.

    Karen Handel trailed Ossoff till Dems in the form of Jim Hodgkinson frittered a major pickup opportunity away. (Despite what Jason says, Handel was always a weak nominee who won her party’s nod based primarily on name ID.)

    Dems are energized. I don’t dispute that. The rest of the country hasn’t followed suit because even if they don’t personally approve of Trump, they haven’t had a reason to side with the Dems.

    Meanwhile, in 1993 and 1994, Dems lost badly one Senate seat and two House seats no Reoublican had held in decades if not over a century.

    In 2010, Dems lost Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat and a Hawaii House seat.

    Those portended much graver electoral problems than are apparent from seeing several weak Republicans hang on to vulnerable House seats against an onslaught of left-wing money and enthusiasm.

  234. DW says:

    229 – those are good questions…I am just pointing out the mechanism by which things happened. I know in my own conversations with GOP friends, they all just admitted there were too many options and were just picking one of them, because they had to–thereby splintering the vote. The effect was to allow Trump’s 35% to win the early states.

  235. Wes says:

    You brought up the 2016 election, Robbie. I pointed out why it didn’t make your case.

    If you don’t like my comparing of current trends to 2016, don’t bring up 2016.

  236. Trump says:

    “Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, and Carly Fiorina”

    All of these together did not get more than 20%.

  237. Trump says:

    Amendment to 238: Except Cruz

  238. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm
    Once events have passed, it is more constructive to analyze what happened holistically. Why were there 17 candidates? Cause or symptom?
    Did Trump win because there were 17 candidates? or did the fact there were 17 candidates expose an ongoing problem with the GOPs ineffectiveness in pleasing its constituents and its lack of direction?

    – Trump won because there were 17 candidates and because a large enough section of the base was open to his “style”. Had there not been 17 candidates, there’s little chance he’d have won the nomination. Until the very, very end, Trump struggled to get past the 40% mark in total vote.

    On top of that, the other candidates did not take Trump’s candidacy seriously. So while the other 16 formed a circular firing squad, they ignored Trump. He went months and months without receiving much of any attention from the other candidates. Jeb attacked Rubio, Rubio attacked Christie, Cruz attacked Carson, and Kasich ate food in front of the cameras.

    It wasn’t until late February 2016 the other candidates finally tried to stop Trump, but it was too late. The time to take out Trump was August 2015. No one did.

  239. Trump says:

    And Cruz voters were not Rubio voters.

  240. Trump says:

    GOP voters were not listening to morons like Rubio or Jeb or Christie.

    With this logic, no wonder Trump kicked all these loser to the curb.

  241. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm
    Robbie forgets Democrats have been unable to beat even weak Republicans in special elections since Trump took office.

    – And each of those races took place in districts where the Republican candidate had won by a substantial margin several months earlier. Despite the 20 point ins each featured in November, the races in April, may, and June were substantially closer. Had Republicans blown those races, you can bet we’d be at DefCon 1.

  242. Trump says:

    “The time to take out Trump was August 2015. No one did.”

    No one except Walker dropped out in August 2015. So how come none of the others come close to the nomination?

  243. Wes says:

    I’m no Trump shill, but, damn, Robbie, you claim Trump is being judged differently from other Presidents–and then proceed to judge him like other Presidents.

    Maybe Trump is unpopular because of his abrasiveness while voters aren’t taking out frustration with him on congressional Republicans because the economy hasn’t given them a reason to do so.

    If the Dow were dropping sharply and Americans were seeing rising unemployment, then, yes, Republicans would be in trouble.

    As it stands, Trump’s popularity has so far had no net negative effect on the GOP.

    Hell, Bill Nelson lost his lead over Rick Scott while Josh Hawley is the frontrunner against Claire McCaskill–all while Trump is unpopular.

    Maybe that should tell us something.

  244. Trump says:

    If you go back and read the cretin Robbie’s posts, he was peddling the same cra&.

    He disappeared when Trump started winning on Nov 8, and stayed away for months.

    Till the butt hurt settled into a dull pain.

  245. Wes says:

    No argument there, Robbie. That’s where candidate quality came in. Karen Handel was a weak candidate. Tom Price had not been. Nonetheless, Handel won despite trailing most of the polls in the race.

    Now had Handel been a stronger candidate and underperformed, that eould have been cause for concern.

    Instead, she was a weak candidate who still won.

    Again, your case is not made.

  246. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:27 pm
    I’m no Trump shill, but, damn, Robbie, you claim Trump is being judged differently from other Presidents–and then proceed to judge him like other Presidents.

    – Yes, trump is being judged in a way previous modern presidents have not. In the past, a strong economy would mean high approval ratings for a president. That’s not the case for Trump.

    It’s not stated enough, if ever, that Trump’s low approval rating with a strong economy is a real outlier historically. That said, Trump has made his presidency about Trump. He’s made himself and his behavior the issue.

    Maybe voters will disassociate Trump from other Republicans in 2018, but I doubt it.

  247. Trump says:

    Everyone keeps missing the point that GOP voters hate GOP congress leaders.

    When they get an alternative, boom!

  248. Wes says:

    They’ve done that so far, Robbie. We had a race in Georgia where Dems dumped $30 million into a campaign–only to get 48.2% of the vote.

  249. Trump says:

    8% approval rating says it all.

  250. Mr.Vito says:

    DW got it… Robbie just repeated what DW already said the first time.

    “Had there not been 17 candidates, there’s little chance he’d have won the nomination.”

    Why didn’t the GOP make sure there were fewer candidates? Why couldn’t they coalesce around a few?

    “On top of that, the other candidates did not take Trump’s candidacy seriously.”

    Why didn’t they take it seriously?

    “So while the other 16 formed a circular firing squad…”

    Why was there so much division and lack of leadership?

    In hindsight, all point to massive party failures that created a vacuum.

    Saying, ‘if there weren’t 17 candidates, Trump wouldn’t have won’ could be as pointless as saying ‘if that car had seen me laying in the street, I wouldn’t have been run over.”

  251. lisab says:

    We’re already at 30 seats in play and we haven’t come close to hitting rock bottom with Trump as president. 2018 could be to Democrats what 2010 was to Republicans. That doesn’t mean 60 seats,
    ———————————————–

    so you are predicting the dems will in 30 to 59 seats?

  252. Wes says:

    It’s not stated enough, if ever, that Trump’s low approval rating with a strong economy is a real outlier historically. That said, Trump has made his presidency about Trump. He’s made himself and his behavior the issue.

    Maybe voters will disassociate Trump from other Republicans in 2018, but I doubt it.

    These statements are incompatible. If the Trump Administration is all about Trump, then it’s not about other Republicans. Thus, voters would have no reason to associate other Republicans with Trump–since those Republicans are not Trump.

  253. Bitterlaw says:

    Poster Trump keeps stating that Trump defeated 16 other GOP candidates. True. What he forgets is that the 16 other candidates essentially defeated each other by fracturing the vote so severely that Trump was able to win with a minority of the vote.

    We’re stuck with him so Robbie’s unending rants are pointless.

  254. Wes says:

    I understand Robbie’s concerns. They’re just not borne out by actual data.

  255. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not see 252 while I was typing.

  256. Bitterlaw says:

    Congress has not had an 8% approval rating in months. Trump Guru has been told this repeatedly. The rate still sucks but Trump Guru is pretty lazy and he is not smart enough to revise his script.

  257. Bitterlaw says:

    The average is 12.8 with a high of 19 and low of 8 in the polling. There is no reason Trump Guru can’t do a little extra work.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

  258. Mr.Vito says:

    “These statements are incompatible. If the Trump Administration is all about Trump, then it’s not about other Republicans. Thus, voters would have no reason to associate other Republicans with Trump–since those Republicans are not Trump.”

    And, don’t forget that everyone on earth has heard nonstop from Republicans that Trump isn’t a Republican/conservative, which is true.

    Then people see him accomplishing more ‘Republican/conservative’ items in his executive capacity than ‘Republican/conservative’ congresspeople legislatively.

  259. Bitterlaw says:

    12.8 sucks. Trump Guru is lazy. Both are true.

  260. Bitterlaw says:

    Why are you still a Democrat, Mr. Vito?

  261. lisab says:

    breaking: clinton campaign paid for the dossier

  262. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe I’m waiting for a reason to want to be a Republican…

  263. lisab says:

    $9.2 million payment

  264. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #264
    HUGE NEWS!!! This has been reported by the Washington Post.
    The oatmeal should hit the fan tomorrow!

  265. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m not sure how much longer other outlets can ignore this.

  266. lisab says:

    elizabeth warren was sexually harassed by a professor who chased her around his desk …

    too bad he had polio … and couldn’t walk

    http://img.ifcdn.com/images/702a4397f55c2515a3132c11be4e3ab082b57a53f1ef9fc1fe533ad586d90d7e_1.jpg

  267. lisab says:

    I’m not sure how much longer other outlets can ignore this.
    ——————-

    well robbie is all over the russia story

    i am sure he will comment on it

  268. lisab says:

    how hurt is trump?

    i see empty seats at the nfl football games

    well … i have seen pictures on drudge

  269. Chicon says:

    It was nice to read Robbie’s illogical rants again. Alas, this news will cause him to go dark for a while.

  270. lisab says:

    If you don’t think skin color has played a role in how a portion of the

    democratic primary base

    has come to it’s position on immigration, then you haven’t been paying attention.
    ————————

    ftfy

  271. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    October 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    These statements are incompatible. If the Trump Administration is all about Trump, then it’s not about other Republicans. Thus, voters would have no reason to associate other Republicans with Trump–since those Republicans are not Trump.

    – This is not the case I’m making. I’m saying, that because he’s made it all about him, he and the party are being judged on his behavior rather than legislative accomplishments. On election day 2018, Trump and Republicans will be intertwined.

  272. NYCmike says:

    “For the record, Flake has a lifetime 93 score from ACU and a lifetime 96 score from CFG.”

    -I am consistently told, here at HHR, that Rand Paul is NOT a conservative, nor a Republican.

    Rand Paul’s ACU score is 95+ and his CFG score is 95%…….very similar to “conservative Republican Flake”…….the inconsistency of some people on this board is a bit mysterious.

  273. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:05 pm
    It was nice to read Robbie’s illogical rants again. Alas, this news will cause him to go dark for a while.

    – Just as it was fun to read your slavish defenses of Trump in the Spring and your belief Andrew Napolitano was correct that Obama used the British to spy on Trump. Then you disappeared for months and months.

  274. lisab says:

    what are you guys going to do when the gop loses 59 seats next year?

  275. NYCmike says:

    “On election day 2018, Trump and Republicans will be intertwined.”

    -I am patiently optimistic. If some tax cuts go thru, the continued craziness of far-left Democrats, along with Robbie’s crazy rants today, I look to make gains next year in the Senate, and do better than expected in the House.

  276. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:07 pm
    “For the record, Flake has a lifetime 93 score from ACU and a lifetime 96 score from CFG.”
    -I am consistently told, here at HHR, that Rand Paul is NOT a conservative, nor a Republican.
    Rand Paul’s ACU score is 95+ and his CFG score is 95%…….very similar to “conservative Republican Flake”…….the inconsistency of some people on this board is a bit mysterious.

    – Hey NYCMike, how did your boy Rand Paul vote on Obamacare repeal this Summer? You remember that vote right? The one where the party came up one vote short in the Senate. If you’ve forgotten, he voted NO and allowed Obamacare to stand. Flake voted against it, but not hero conservative Paul.

  277. Chicon says:

    276 – again with the reading comprehension difficulties.

  278. NYCmike says:

    The only time I have seen Andrew Napolitano’s name mentioned since whenever has been today, by Robbie, I believe in 3 separate comments.

    You have lost it, BIGLY!

  279. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:09 pm
    “On election day 2018, Trump and Republicans will be intertwined.”
    -I am patiently optimistic. If some tax cuts go thru, the continued craziness of far-left Democrats, along with Robbie’s crazy rants today, I look to make gains next year in the Senate, and do better than expected in the House.

    – Hey, look. It’s the guy who supports loser Senate candidates telling everyone everything will be fine.

  280. lisab says:

    FBI used dossier allegations to bolster Trump-Russia investigation

    The FBI last year used a dossier of allegations of Russian ties to Donald Trump’s campaign as part of the justification to win approval to secretly monitor a Trump associate, according to US officials briefed on the investigation.

    The dossier has also been cited by FBI Director James Comey in some of his briefings to members of Congress in recent weeks, as one of the sources of information the bureau has used to bolster its investigation, according to US officials briefed on the probe.

    This includes approval from the secret court that oversees the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to monitor the communications of Carter Page, two of the officials said. Last year, Page was identified by the Trump campaign as an adviser on national security.

  281. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:09 pm
    276 – again with the reading comprehension difficulties.

    – I guess if I believed Andrew Napolitano’s claim that Obama used the British to spy on Trump, I’d not address the issue and claim something about reading comprehension.

  282. NYCmike says:

    I stated Rand Paul was wrong on that vote….what odes that have to do with you, or Wes, (forgot who used it earlier today) using those rating systems to determine conservatism and/or Republican-ism?

    If you don’t like the rating system they use, why was Flake’s numbers used earlier?

  283. NYCmike says:

    “– Hey, look. It’s the guy who supports loser Senate candidates telling everyone everything will be fine.”

    -I supported a lot of loser Presidential candidates as well….Christie, then Rubio, then Cruz, then Kasich……

  284. NYCmike says:

    “odes” – does

  285. lisab says:

    British spies were first to spot Trump team’s links with Russia

    The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

  286. NYCmike says:

    Give me a T!
    Give me a R!
    Give me a U!
    Give me a M!
    Give me a P!

    Give me a C!Give me a H!Give me a U,M,P!

    What does that spell?!?!

    TRUMP CHUMP!

  287. Chicon says:

    Robbie, let Wes be an example for you. He’s far from a Trump groupie, yet he’s able to coolly assess the political landscape in a balanced, logical fashion. Who knows if he – or anyone – will be right about future events, but he sees things on both sides of the ledger.

  288. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    You have been here more than Robbie has.

    The ward only lets him out on the new moon.

  289. NYCmike says:

    I missed about 200 comments with Robbie going ba-nay-nayz!

    Dang!

  290. NYCmike says:

    “-I supported a lot of loser Presidential candidates as well….Christie, then Rubio, then Cruz, then Kasich……”

    -BUT, I can honestly say I NEVER supported one candidate…..

    JEB!2016!!

  291. lisab says:

    well maybe if jeb had some financial support he would have won

  292. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:16 pm
    Robbie, let Wes be an example for you. He’s far from a Trump groupie, yet he’s able to coolly assess the political landscape in a balanced, logical fashion. Who knows if he – or anyone – will be right about future events, but he sees things on both sides of the ledger.

    – Spare me. The only reason you like Wes’ analysis right now is because he’s arguing the point of view you want to hear. It has nothing to do with tone.

  293. NYCmike says:

    L O L ! !

  294. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:19 pm
    “-I supported a lot of loser Presidential candidates as well….Christie, then Rubio, then Cruz, then Kasich……”
    -BUT, I can honestly say I NEVER supported one candidate…..
    JEB!2016!!

    – And thankfully I never supported Cruz, a true fraud.

  295. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    You are UN – hinged!

  296. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:22 pm
    L O L ! !

    – Did someone just say Richard Mourdock was a good candidate? That’s the only reason I could think of to LOL.

  297. JulStol says:

    300

  298. NYCmike says:

    “– And thankfully I never supported Cruz, a true fraud.”

    -Whomever posted Flake’s ratings……could you please post the ratings for Ted Cruz, Senator-Fraudville?

  299. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC lecturing HHR about consistency? He hated Executive Orders when Obama was President. Then Trump became President and suddenly Executive Orders are fine with him.

  300. NYCmike says:

    Mourdock.
    Napolitano.

    COD anyone?

  301. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:23 pm
    Robbie,
    You are UN – hinged!

    – Trump is a terrible president who is crass and soulless. And unfortunately, he is destroying the party every step of the way. If that makes me unhinged in the eyes of Mourdock/Angle/COD,/McDaniel supporter, then so be it.

    Frankly, I think you’re a nut who wouldn’t know a good candidate if he grabbed you in the p$ssy.

  302. Tina says:

    Boom

    Clinton paid for dossier.

    Perp walk the beotch now.

  303. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm
    Mourdock.
    Napolitano.
    COD anyone?

    – Beat you to it in 304.

  304. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – You have been here long enough to know that you have to post CCC to get credit.

  305. lisab says:

    Supreme Court dismisses final case against Trump travel ban

  306. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:26 pm
    Boom
    Clinton paid for dossier.
    Perp walk the beotch now

    – OMG! A political opponent did opposition research. This has never happened before.

  307. NYCmike says:

    “NYC lecturing HHR about consistency? He hated Executive Orders when Obama was President. Then Trump became President and suddenly Executive Orders are fine with him.”

    -Of course, that is NOT true.

    Whenever Trump has issued an EO, I have always asked if it was in his constitutional right to do so, for the simple fact that I would rather have legislation which is permanent.

    But, go ahead and keep making stu ff up, Bitterlaw.

  308. NYCmike says:

    “– Beat you to it in 304.”

    -You are firing on all cylinders!

  309. Chicon says:

    295 – incorrect again. I like his ability to analyze without emotion overwhelming his brain. I have no idea if he’s right.

  310. Tina says:

    Laughing my arse off.

  311. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm
    “– And thankfully I never supported Cruz, a true fraud.”
    -Whomever posted Flake’s ratings……could you please post the ratings for Ted Cruz, Senator-Fraudville?

    – You do realize that when Cruz worked for GWB’s campaign he supported comprehensive immigration reform. He only changed his opinion on that issue because he wanted to capitalize on nutty Tea Party.

  312. Tina says:

    Actualky trump has respected the congress.

    Said several times where the obumbler over stepped his authority and the republicrats let him get away with it.

  313. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:28 pm
    295 – incorrect again. I like his ability to analyze without emotion overwhelming his brain. I have no idea if he’s right.

    – Baloney.

  314. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not know that it was illegal to make up a dossier on somebody. It is certainly defamatory and can lead to a lawsuit (high bar for a public figure to win as a Plaintiff). It is certainly dirty politics but politics is a blood sport. What is the crime?

  315. Tina says:

    Thank you.p, nunez. Heck of a job with the subpoena.

  316. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:29 pm
    Actualky trump has respected the congress.
    Said several times where the obumbler over stepped his authority and the republicrats let him get away with it.

    – I see you’re still wearing your tinfoil hat.

  317. NYCmike says:

    “And unfortunately, he is destroying the party every step of the way.”

    -I guess I am in a bubble.

    I know plenty of people who voted for Hillary, and they don’t like Trump, but they also complain about their health plans and about their taxes.

    Trump is trying to do something about that, and I tell them so on a consistent basis.

  318. Tina says:

    The crime is using russian sources for it.

    Dossier was created using thise sources, so they interfered with the election.

    Other crime may be if the fvi used it as a threat against said president. Did the fbi interfere in the election?

  319. Tina says:

    Dossier materials were sourced through russians.

    Dossier was fabricated.

  320. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:29 pm
    I did not know that it was illegal to make up a dossier on somebody. It is certainly defamatory and can lead to a lawsuit (high bar for a public figure to win as a Plaintiff). It is certainly dirty politics but politics is a blood sport. What is the crime?

    – There isn’t a crime, but Fox and Drudge are in business to slavishly support Trump so they’ll harp on this in hopes of clouding all of the other issues.

  321. lisab says:

    It is certainly defamatory and can lead to a lawsuit
    —————————-

    actua;;y the legal jeopardy would be if it was used to convice the fisa courts to spy on trump’s associates

    knowing it was fake

  322. Tina says:

    We all got to stay tuned.

    Mueller is investigating this.

  323. Tina says:

    They used said materials to wiretap trump and trump associates.

  324. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe that NYC opposed all of Obama’s EOs and Beverly examined whether he had the authority to issue them. He just opposed them all. Consistency, NYC.

  325. NYCmike says:

    “– You do realize that when Cruz worked for GWB’s campaign he supported comprehensive immigration reform.”

    Robbie,

    Someone posted Flake’s ratings. They were used to prove his “conservative” credentials.

    I am asking that other Senators be judged in the same manner.

    Is that the wrong thing to do?

  326. Tina says:

    I have been right each and every way.

    So, stay tuned.

    That is why swamp is and was acting extra swampy.

    Sheot will hit soon.

  327. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    I believe

    -The archives are there.

    ODD that you don’t find my comments……..

  328. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:30 pm
    “And unfortunately, he is destroying the party every step of the way.”
    -I guess I am in a bubble.
    I know plenty of people who voted for Hillary, and they don’t like Trump, but they also complain about their health plans and about their taxes.
    Trump is trying to do something about that, and I tell them so on a consistent basis.

    – President Moron said in his convention speech “I alone can fix it”. If true, why can’t he just do it?

  329. Tina says:

    And I love it.

  330. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, lisab and Tina. I did not feel like looking it up. I get paid for legal research and HHR never pays.

  331. Tina says:

    They are getting closer and closer to thigness.

    She now is walking with arm crutches for a tow injury.

    Lol

  332. lisab says:

    They used said materials to wiretap trump and trump associates.
    ——————————–

    **if** the party in power

    used party funds to make a fake dossier

    and then used it to get approval for government agencies they controlled to spy on the opposition candidate

    it would be a watergate-level crime

  333. NYCmike says:

    “If true, why can’t he just do it?”

    -Well, he did issue a statement last week where they would stop paying the insurance companies, and he also stated he would allow for short-term plans up to a year, instead of 3 months…..if you could show me otherwise, I would love to hear about it.

  334. Chicon says:

    325 – exactly correct. Further, how did the intelligence services come to use a political hit piece as the basis to spy on a political candidate.

  335. Tina says:

    That is why several reports, i call tea leaves wrote, is mueller doing too much now.

    He has all barrels aimed at the drats.

    Trump woukd not be stupid to have interviewd him the day ahead of time.

  336. Tina says:

    Mcmulkin, the pkant, needs to explain, how they were good russians that provided the materials.

  337. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:35 pm
    325 – exactly correct. Further, how did the intelligence services come to use a political hit piece as the basis to spy on a political candidate.

    – Do you think this will force President Clinton from office?

  338. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Let me know what I else I didn’t like about Obama and the archives would be useless…..

  339. Tina says:

    And I have written it since day 1.

    Mueller would not be so stupid to have all drat attorneys and investigators, and sat down with trump the day before being appointed.

  340. NYCmike says:

    Robbie running interference for Hillary is wild to see!

  341. lisab says:

    personally, i don’t think people like robbie or the dems would consider using the dossier to get fisa approval against trump to be wrong

  342. Tina says:

    Yup, drat gonna drat and peotect thighness.

  343. Bitterlaw says:

    I know what I have read, NYC. I am not digging through 9 years of posts. If you honestly believe that you ever posted something like this “President Obama has the authority to issue an Executive Order on issue X but I disagree with it.” I don’t recall reading it.

  344. Chicon says:

    341 – Poor Robbie, all upset at positive news for Trump. I know it burns…..

  345. Tina says:

    It is too much winning today.

    Flake gone, knew it.

    My az guy hiighly recommends dewitt, or the az governor, who is not gonna do it.

  346. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:38 pm
    Robbie running interference for Hillary is wild to see!

    – Watching NYCMike run interference for Trump, a life long liberal, is wild to see.

  347. lisab says:

    School shaved 7-year-old girl’s head without mom’s permission, reportedly said ‘it will grow back straight’

  348. Tina says:

    Sometimes i think my az contact is wes here.

    However, he is 58 and wes is nit that old.

    However, 58 is young.

  349. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:38 pm
    personally, i don’t think people like robbie or the dems would consider using the dossier to get fisa approval against trump to be wrong

    – I love the way you just throw words out there and hope it all makes sense. Dossier. FISA.

  350. Tina says:

    Her thighness camp is claiming that they did not pay russians, but paid an attorney, a third party.

    Lol

  351. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    There is a difference between issuing an EO which overrides legislation, and an EO which repeals the previous EO.

    Then again, you are a lawyer, so that might be tough to understand.

  352. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:38 pm
    Yup, drat gonna drat and peotect thighness.

    – Will you attend the hearings Senator Kelli Ward holds on chemtrails? Or are you waiting for someone to hold a hearing on your alien abduction?

  353. Tina says:

    There shenanigans put the fisa program in jeopardy. I would be inclined to kill it.

  354. Tina says:

    I would kill it if it was an r that did it to a d.

  355. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:39 pm
    341 – Poor Robbie, all upset at positive news for Trump. I know it burns…..

    – LOL! An opposing campaign did opposition research and you think that’s illegal. Your Napolitano take was slightly less stupid.

  356. NYCmike says:

    “– Watching NYCMike run interference for Trump, a life long liberal, is wild to see.”

    -“life long liberal” makes an appearance!

    I may have to go right to Aqueduct and play Texas Hold ‘Em!

  357. Tina says:

    Kill fisa, will kill one more corrupt bush program.

    I like for 41,43,and 44bushobama programs to be killed off

  358. lisab says:

    House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, announced his committee and the House Oversight Committee will investigate the Uranium One deal.

  359. NYCmike says:

    Napolitano for the 4th time….

  360. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:41 pm
    Bitterlaw,
    There is a difference between issuing an EO which overrides legislation, and an EO which repeals the previous EO.
    Then again, you are a lawyer, so that might be tough to understand.

    – You’re really twisting yourself into a pretzel.

  361. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is on a roll!

    “CG”, are you out there?

  362. Tina says:

    Btw, it is apparent that mueller did not interview for the fbimdirector, when he met with trump, the day before.

    Mueller never wnated to return to fbi director after serving for a long time.

  363. Tina says:

    Clinton groupie….

  364. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:43 pm
    Napolitano for the 4th time….

    – Maybe Chicon shouldn’t have pushed an insane conspiracy theory and I wouldn’t repeat it. Notice he still won’t disavow it.

  365. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    1m
    This is sooooo funny. So Trump, again, takes out the Bushes, Clintons & Obamas in one sweep.

    Kaboom. Swamp gonna swamp.

  366. Chicon says:

    Robbie, how’s Trump doing on the two most important issues to you, conservative judges and tax cuts? I know, I know, there’s always hope that the tax cut fails….

  367. lisab says:

    MLB player who took a knee says Trump-supporting waiter refused to serve him. Yes, the protester is crying that someone else protested at work.

  368. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:44 pm
    Clinton groupie….

    – I look forward to seeing you testify at the chemtrail hearing.

  369. Tina says:

    Wow, trump ban on 11countries begins.

    What about the radical hi loon judge.

  370. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:45 pm
    Robbie, how’s Trump doing on the two most important issues to you, conservative judges and tax cuts? I know, I know, there’s always hope that the tax cut fails….

    – Where’s the tax cut?

    I told you specifically back in April there was good chance Trump would end year 1 without a significant legislative achievement. You laughed, but here are.

  371. NYCmike says:

    Robbie can’t stay on one issue……now he is mentioning chemtrails…..NOT one person on this board has openly called for Kelli Ward to become Senator.

  372. Tina says:

    The swamp is livid no doubt today.

    That is why you have flakey melt down in the senate and Mullah corker do something equalky dumb.

    Put a corker in it, flakey is done.

  373. Tina says:

    Only if Some folks would have just listened. I tried regarding muh russian.

    I tried to tell you it was a hoax from day one, perpetrated by thighness.

  374. NYCmike says:

    “I told you specifically back in April there was good chance Trump would end year 1 without a significant legislative achievement.”

    -And we all know from CIVICS 101 that “legislative achievement” is strictly a Presidential prerogative.

  375. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:47 pm
    Robbie can’t stay on one issue……now he is mentioning chemtrails…..NOT one person on this board has openly called for Kelli Ward to become Senator.

    – I’m fighting a multi-front battle. All you do is show up and shill for Trump and blame McConnell even though Trump said I alone can fix it.

  376. Tina says:

    oogle “CNN,175,Sue”
    @NolteNC
    ·
    9m
    You real journalists outraged by Russian collusion & fake news, Hillary/DNC/FBI paid firm that works with Russians to spread fake news.

    Paging, tapper the flapper.

  377. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:48 pm
    “I told you specifically back in April there was good chance Trump would end year 1 without a significant legislative achievement.”
    -And we all know from CIVICS 101 that “legislative achievement” is strictly a Presidential prerogative.

    – And here go with NYCMike pretending the president plays no role in the legislative process, especially when his own party controls both the House and the Senate.

    As always with NYCMike, must protect the Trump.

  378. NYCmike says:

    I haven’t mentioned McConnell today……he had a nice press conference with Trump last week, and I believe Trump met with the Republican Senators

  379. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Not all of Trump’s EOs were doing away with Obama’s EOs. Personally, I understand that Presidents can issue EOs whether I agree with them or not. I recall that you opposed every EO issued by Obama without going through your alleged Constitutional analysis.

  380. Tina says:

    This —> “After the election, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to continue gathering intelligence about Trump & Russia”

    Bl, this is a damaging part from the article.

    A fireable offense for the former fbi director and soon to be #2

  381. NYCmike says:

    “As always with NYCMike, must protect the Trump.”

    -As always, ignore your incorrect ramblings about legislation being passed by a President.

  382. Tina says:

    So, i guess the fbi under comedy coluded with the russians over the dossier too,

  383. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 7:51 pm
    “As always with NYCMike, must protect the Trump.”
    -As always, ignore your incorrect ramblings about legislation being passed by a President.

    – For someone who pays as much attention to politics as you do, it’s incomprehensible to me you don’t realize that the president plays a role in the legislative process, but you are a Tea Partier.

  384. Tina says:

    HEre are schweikarts net oarty registration changes.

    We are looking awesome in florida.

    Larry Schweikart
    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    2m
    Replying to @LarrySchweikart and @SeanTrende
    109k in PA, 70k in NC, 62k in FL, 12k in AZ (where both parties gained voters, but Rs up much bigger)

    CO, OR, NJ, all saw Ds gain, DE even.

  385. NYCmike says:

    ” I recall that you opposed every EO issued by Obama without going through your alleged Constitutional analysis.”

    -you know, go for it, Bitterlaw. Write what you like, with no old comments to back yourself up. Obama is gone, Trump is now President.

    Live in the past.

    I want permanent legislation passed, not EO’s which can be undone by the next Democrat President.

  386. Chicon says:

    Mike, Robbie likes to deflect when the day’s events make him cranky. He was elated at the Flake news, and is really hot about the dossier news. A Republican senator performing poorly in the polls leaves, giving the party a better chance at keeping the seat. And the main document used to support the Russian collusion meme is a partisan hit piece. You’d think this would make a Republican happy. But not the concern troll.

  387. Tina says:

    Flakey will not rule out challenging trump as a drat in 2020.

    Oh please do.

    We will wiin 320evs

  388. Tina says:

    I am for dewitt or the az governor replacing flakey.

  389. NYCmike says:

    “it’s incomprehensible to me you don’t realize that the president plays a role in the legislative process,”

    -He can play a role.

    He does not have to.

    Maybe Bitterlaw, with his law degree, can explain the difference to you.

    (As an example, I would suggest you look at legislation passed by a Republican Congress and vetoed by President Obama.)

  390. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – If the President has no role in putting forth a legislative agenda, why do we say “Reagan’s Tax Cuts?”

    Of course, Reagan did not introduce them personally or vote on them but he and his team pushed for their introduction and approval. Maybe Trump could look around the Oval Office and see if Reagan left any notes.

  391. Tina says:

    We have a constituional crisis if the fbi got involved in the presidential election. Un chartered territory and coup like.

  392. NYCmike says:

    I have NEVER said the President CANNOT take a role in crafting legislation.

  393. Tina says:

    He played a role. He wanted obumblercare repealed.

    Rinos said no.

    So, he played his role, rinos played theirs.

    Now, we can eo the crap out of it, which actually respects the congress role. They never appropriated credits and they never voted for congress not to be under obumblercare.

  394. NYCmike says:

    I have said repeatedly that CONGRESS does NOT have to listen to anything the President says when they write their legislation.

  395. Mr.Vito says:

    There is a reason every Democrat and Republican strategist on election night both declared Trump would continue to behave as he has and also declared Obamacare, Frank-Dodd, DACA, and every other Obama era policy dead. It is because they know a rubber stamp President is not needed to legislate.

  396. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC always refers to my law degree to put me down. That hurts. I never denigrate him getting hired by his family to oversee truck drivers. Well, almost never.

  397. NYCmike says:

    “I have said repeatedly that CONGRESS does NOT have to listen to anything the President says when they write their legislation.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    With your law degree, please let me know if this statement is incorrect.

  398. Tina says:

    And the payment of the dosier used for obama to wiretap is awful.

  399. Mr.Vito says:

    390 Chicon, actually it has more to do with winning the civil war… the GOP must go to the wilderness for 20 years, and it must be because of Trump.

  400. Trump says:

    Robbie the cretin thinks he is fighting a battle.

    The as@hat is just a joke to be kicked around .

    Stupid.

  401. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Was my statement incorrect?

    “I have said repeatedly that CONGRESS does NOT have to listen to anything the President says when they write their legislation.”

  402. Bitterlaw says:

    I love that Tina, who is not a Republican, calls actual Republicans who do not vote exactly as she demands 100% of the time to be RINOs.

  403. Tina says:

    oogle “CNN,175,Sue”
    @NolteNC
    ·
    3m
    MSM will be working all night to figure out how Hillary is a hero for outing Trump. Watch the narrative turn in some way in ayem.

    It was opposition research, all for the cause, you know.

  404. NYCmike says:

    I was hired?

    I thought I was just born.

  405. Trump says:

    Bitterlaw is a failed lawyer.

    Hence his self identified moniker.

    If you were as stupid as him, you would hate yourself too.

  406. Tina says:

    I am conservative first.

    I woukd not want runos representing me, bl.

    You can be haopy with the sheot in congress, i am not.

  407. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – While you play with trucks, GFY.

    Your statement is your statement.

  408. Diogenes says:

    Have to say this place has gone really downhill.

    ******************

    Now Flake, Corker, and McCain have nothing to lose when opposing Trump. Collins is still a moderate and Murkowski can easily get re-elected while bypassing a primary.

    That’s 5 republicans who could care less about what the Republican base thinks.

    They ain’t voting lockstep with the Democrats but they certainly aren’t rubber stamping whatever Trump impulsively tweets either.

    *********

    Trump is completely unwilling to fix Obamacare even though by cutting cross-subsidy premiums have skyrocketed for the middle class (the government still subsidizes premiums for the poor).

    This is THE big issue and nobody here talks about it. People are not going to blame Democrats. They will blame Trump and the Republicans. The Dems were going to win the house because of Trump anyways. Because Trump just caused the healthcare premiums of his base to go up by 30%+ in places like Pennsylvania, he will ensure a democratic super majority.

    You can scream it’s the dems fault. Nobody except the very far-right will buy it because the GOP controls every branch.

    ****************

    No Republican in a competitive seat will risk sticking their necks out for unpopular ideas like tax-cuts for the rich at everyone else’s expense. They might get a small across-the-board tax cut that doesn’t explode the deficit by more than a trillion dollars. That’s 100 billion over a year. Nobody is going to vote for Republicans over a $200 tax cut when their healthcare premiums just increased by 30%.

    **************************

    Trump has done more to help Democrats than Hillary ever could have done.

  409. Tina says:

    The libs on my fb page, this cannot be true. Trump must have bought the wp to write his own stories.

  410. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw still can’t tell me if my statement is correct or incorrect.

  411. NYCmike says:

    WTF does that say about the bar exam in PA?

  412. Tina says:

    Subsidy oayments are not legal. Congress never voted for said payments.

  413. NYCmike says:

    DIOGENES!

  414. Tina says:

    Drats talking about debt.

    Racist drats at that.

  415. Trump says:

    The racist pig Dio is back.

  416. Bitterlaw says:

    I am actually a successful lawyer. Bitterlaw started more than 20 years ago at AOL because it was easy to type and remember. Why change now?

  417. Tina says:

    Bl is not a fake lawyah. He does seem like an honest one.

  418. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC still needs his family to sign his paycheck.

    Your statement is correct but you ignore the fact that if Trump really cared about an agenda, he could work with Congress to get it passed rather than choosing Senators to insult.

  419. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue”
    Google “CNN,175,Sue”
    @NolteNC
    ·
    9m
    Pro open borders. Pro amnesty. Pro gun control.

    Who is this flake?

  420. Tina says:

    KEith overbite and madcow are on suicide watch.

  421. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina- I do not like what is going on in Congress. However, I can’t change it. It certainly is not on my list of reasons for suicide.

  422. Tina says:

    I want them to do what you and i boted for them to do.

    Cut taxes, cut debt, eliminate obumblercare, and get jobs back.

    Whike you hace a party and i do not, wehzve very similar policy aims.

    Imalways said i was a conservative independent when I came here. I never claimed to be a republican.

  423. Bitterlaw says:

    I never sleep well. I don’t think I ever did even as a child. Now, I have to worry about sleep positions?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5011753/Are-snoozing-way-SINGLE.html

  424. Tina says:

    Maggie Haberman ? @maggieNYT
    Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html
    4:07 PM – Oct 24, 2017

    Magie hack.

  425. Bitterlaw says:

    I voted to repeal AND replace Obamacare so I don’t feel lied to. I agree with Tina on most issues. I am trying to get to a place of indifference towards Trump.

  426. Chicon says:

    Hillary gets some dirt on her opponent, and it ends up in the hands of the FBI and
    NSA to be used as justification to listen to said opponent’s communications. How did this transfer occur? Were the FBI and NSA complicit or dumb?

  427. DW says:

    VA gov 2013 final margin:

    McAwful +2.5

    RCP final average:

    McAwful +6.7

    VA Senate 2014 final margin:

    Warner +0.8

    RCP final average:

    Warner +9.7

    Governor 2017:

    Current RCP average:

    Northam +5.8

    The RCP average would be much tighter but for the Quinnipiac poll.

    But at just +5.8 I think Gillespie wins in a squeaker.

  428. JC says:

    Jason Johnson tweeted;

    1) Tempting to comment on Flake’s floor speech. Instead, offering context on his view of “governing” by highlighting a few of his votes.

    2) Jeff Flake was 1 of 10 Republican senators who voted to confirm Loretta Lynch for Attorney General

    3) Flake voted to fund President Obama’s unconstitutional executive amnesty.

    4) Flake voted against Sen. Mike Lee’s 1st Amendment Defense Act

    5) Flake voted for Obama’s $1.1 trillion Cromnibus 2015 spending bill

    6) Flake voteed to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank

    7) Flake voted for S.2114 which increased Russia’s power at the International Monetary Fund

    8) Flake voted for a CLEAN debt limit suspension (2014)

    9) Flake was 1 of 11 Republican senators who voted to confirm Janet Yellen

    10) Flake voted for the Ryan-Murray budget which lifted spending caps & raised fees (taxes) in exchange for promises of future spending cuts

    11) Flake voted for the Gang of 8 amnesty bill

    12) Flake voted for the post-Newtown gun grab

    13) Flake voted AGAINST The Defund Obamacare Act of 2013 (S.1292)

    14) Flake voted to increase debt by $900 billion in exchange for the promise of discretionary cuts in the future (2011)

    15) Flake preferred John Kasich over Cruz or Trump in the 2016 GOP Primary.

    Good riddance.

  429. JC says:

    @DW

    Gillespie just needs to perform Trump by about 2-5 points in NOVA and Richmond county, while maintain Trump’s rural strength, and he can win.

    As usual, I believe these polls are overestimating turnout, particularly among minority voters.

  430. Tina says:

    Go Gillepsie.

  431. Tina says:

    Flake back benched McFraudlin

  432. Mr.Vito says:

    “I voted to repeal AND replace Obamacare so I don’t feel lied to.”

    You got neither. Congrats.

  433. mnw says:

    Flake says he may challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP primary.

    Swear to God, he did. Ain’t lyin’.

    Words fail me… almost. So we have mailman’s son, & now Flake.

    Do these people understand that they have to win actual GOP state primaries? If it weren’t for those darned deplorables …

  434. Chicon says:

    432 – sounds like Robbie’s type of Republican.

  435. Mr.Vito says:

    “So we have mailman’s son, & now Flake.”

    I guess they at least gave up on the idea of him being frog-marched out of the White House.

  436. NYCmike says:

    “Your statement is correct but you ignore the fact that if Trump really cared about an agenda,”

    -You ignore what I told you for over 2 years now: Trump has one agenda, and it is himself.

    He will work with anyone willing to send him something to sign. He would have signed the same repeal Obamacare bill which Obama vetoed, BUT he never got the chance. A replacement could have been in the works for 9 months already…….still waiting for McCain to submit one.

  437. Mr.Vito says:

    You mean his brother’s group, right? Or John?

  438. Tina says:

    Arthur Schwartz
    Arthur Schwartz
    @ArthurSchwartz
    ·
    3m
    Hillary had all the money, the media, a fake Russian dossier & help from Obama’s intel agencies. And she still lost

    And jebots, mighty jebots.

  439. NYCmike says:

    “Your statement is correct”

    -I know it is.

  440. Tina says:

    Dossier was initialky paid for by ine republican candidate.

    Choices likely flub or goober.

  441. NYCmike says:

    Actually, I do need to re-evaluate my opinion of Trump as only out form himself. As janz noticed many months ago, his main leanings do tend to be conservatively-oriented, and that is backed up by his cabinet and judicial picks, SO FAR.

    Hopefully, he keeps it up.

  442. Tina says:

    It is the most conservative administration in the past 30years.

    It can change, however, and be more bush 43 aka a drunken spender.

  443. Tina says:

    Manafort worked for podesta group.

    Per tucker.

  444. NYCmike says:

    “It can change, however, and be more bush 43 aka a drunken spender.”

    -Yes, that is always a worry, especially with a Congress that does NOT want to curtail spending at all.

  445. Mr.Vito says:

    “Dossier was initialky paid for by ine republican candidate.”

    As part of the primary?

  446. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    How come you didn’t post that Maggie Tweet??!!??

  447. Tina says:

    YEs unnamed camoaign.

    Will come out soon.

    So unnamed campaign, then drat thihness, and then fbi. That is why they need to subpoena the bank records.

  448. Tina says:

    So far, i can complain about the fact that he responds,mbut maybe he is in fact a counter puncher and can do so effectively?

  449. Trump says:

    Paid for by the Jeb!

  450. Tina says:

    THis explains hillarys injury. Trying to get sympathy.

  451. Mr.Vito says:

    Will Hillary do a second book tour titled “What Happened Next”?

  452. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Since you have such contempt for me as a lawyer, I wish we could trade jobs for a week. I think I would better at your job than you would be at mine.

    Of course, that would be based on your kind of thinking that I can judge somebody’s ability based on HHR posts.

  453. NYCmike says:

    Shades of Robbie on Twitter – MD is posting links to The Onion, and a gif of an Adult Diaper is titled a gift to Trump.

    🙂

  454. Trump says:

    The Trump administration is the most competent admin.

    Hands down.

  455. Tina says:

    The way the bushes are acting, it would appear that the jeb campaign was behind the dossier.

    Mccain appears to have gone to england or sent somebody there tomretrieve a copy of it and give it to comedy, who already had his copy.

    Mccain can be inciminated too.

  456. NYCmike says:

    I have no contempt at all for you.

    I am honestly perplexed as to why you would not set Robbie straight on such a simple civics 101 fact.

  457. Tina says:

    No doubt team uni behind the dossier.

    Issue is did the fbi pay for it.

    Did they use it to justify witetapping,

    One seems possible, the second seems very likely.

  458. Trump says:

    Wherever there is corruption, you can find John McCain.

  459. Mr.Vito says:

    “Mccain can be inciminated too.”

    I don’t want to know what foul torture that might be.

  460. Tina says:

    THe reports are niw suggesting that an employee has turned against podesta.

    This could be manafort.

    The raid could be smoke and mirrors,

  461. JC says:

    This has not been a great day for the uniparty.

  462. Trump says:

    So all this effort and expense, and all they could find on Trump was sme decade old tape with naughty words.

    Cleanest public figure ever.

  463. NYCmike says:

    As for doing what I do, according to your own descriptions about your physical well-being, I would give you maybe half of a 40′ container of the cabinetry we unload before we would need to replace you.

  464. Tina says:

    This plays further into my argument that trump would not have met with mueller the day before his appointment,

    Mueller has no connection to being on the committe to turning over uranium one.

    I think mueller has targeted team highness since day one.

  465. NYCmike says:

    “Cleanest public figure ever.”

    -This may well stand up!

    Robbie, “CG”, MD, Author’s head to collectively EXPLODE!

  466. Tina says:

    The rais would not likely be done for a oerson, who by all accounts was cooperating. I found the manafort raid story a bit too over the top.

  467. Tina says:

    it is all opposition reaearch.

    Jebots 1and 2

  468. Trump says:

    Give me half the money and time, and I would have Mother Teresa convicted on fraud charges.

    Posthumously.

  469. NYCmike says:

    Jeez, I forgot the World Series is on…..

  470. JC says:

    From Ace’s blog. I feel it’s worth posting since DrewM nails exactly what is going on.
    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372186

    Something I don’t think enough professional Republicans understand/appreciate about the frustration with guys like Flake…

    He and other Republicans never talk about liberals, hardcore lefty types, the way they do about parts of the GOP coalition they don’t like.

    You may say that the parts of the GOP they/you don’t like are worse than anything on the left, ok. But that’s not going to move your voters.

    Flake is on MSNBC right now saying it’s wrong for the GOP to talk about cultural issues. That’s not something a Democrat would ever say.

    There are a lot of GOP/GOP leaners who see an onslaught from the left, which Democrat electeds gleefully participate in and then they see…

    the GOP not just fail to push back but to join in saying pushing back is just not what the right people do.

    People want the party they support to support them. Right or wrong a LOT of Republicans don’t see the GOP politicians supporting them.

    The current GOP leadership class has made it clear they aren’t interested in those fights. Fair enough.

    But don’t be upset when those people going seeking someone who will.

    It’s supply and demand.

    I’m not arguing either side is right or wrong (I’m sympathetic to both) but unless and until people accept the parties are coalitions and

    everyone sees they are getting a reasonable return on investment…here we are.

    My guess is, it’s too late though.

    Of course, I was SCREAMING about this 10 years ago and no one listened to me but that’s on y’all not me.

    But no one wanted to give a little so now we have a death match.

    No my monkeys, not my circus.

  471. Tina says:

    They need to end the senate investigation headed by burr. Going nowhere fast.

    Grassleys smfine.

    Let the house go after the rest.

  472. NYCmike says:

    “ould have Mother Teresa convicted on fraud charges.”

    -You come out with some doozies!

    Get the Pope instead, make Robbie happy, at least until they pick another Marxist Pope.

  473. Tina says:

    Media
    Likes
    Gov. Mike Huckabee’s Tweets
    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    @GovMikeHuckabee
    ·
    2h
    Note to Flake and Corker: Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!

  474. NYCmike says:

    Huckabee is a TRUMP CHUMP!

  475. Trump says:

    Huckabee is taking lessons from Trump!

  476. JC says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 24, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    Jeez, I forgot the World Series is on…..
    ————-
    Were there any stupid kneelers?

  477. Tina says:

    I do not know why mullah corker is s9 mad at trump.

    Iran deal is tossed back to the congress.

    Corker has done nithing but collect a pay check.

    Isis defeated in syria.

    Wtf, mullah corker.

  478. NYCmike says:

    Imagine if Flake and Corker are replaced by 2 women, Ward and Blackburn……we will have added 2 sets of cojones…..

  479. NYCmike says:

    Oh noes, I showed support for Chemtrail Kelli…..

  480. Trump says:

    All these dumbfu cks like McCain and Corker and Flake are doing is making life difficult for poor slobs like Luthar Strange and other flubs who get tagged as GOP establishment.

    Keep it up, morons.

  481. NYCmike says:

    “Were there any stupid kneelers?”

    -Not sure on that…..

  482. Tina says:

    Corker would still be agreeing with obama that isis is jay vee.

    I liked how the lying senators lied about niger, not knowing that we had troops there.

    Whoops.

  483. Tina says:

    IF flakey and corker had blls, they should resign now.

  484. Mr.Vito says:

    “I think mueller has targeted team highness since day one.”

    Funny. I listened to Hannity once several weeks ago, and called in to ask if he thought it was possible Mueller had Clinton lawyers on the team because he felt she needed representation.

    I was surprised, because they were gonna put me on, but ran out of time. They said they’d call back the next day, and I said not to worry about it. I don’t know how that normally works.

  485. Tina says:

    It would be too banana. Republic in my opinion to have 18drat attorneys e,ployed by mueller.

    Attorneys earning combined $100000a day.

    Too bana republic.

  486. Tina says:

    It also was noteworthynthat trump met with mueller for a job, fbi director, that mueller didmnot want.

  487. NYCmike says:

    Dodgers winning 3-1 in bottom of 6th. ALL runs scored on HR’s.

    Kershaw has 11 K’s thru 6, while throwing 73 pitches.

    I hope he keeps it up.

  488. Bitterlaw says:

    18 attorneys dividing $100k a day? That is about $1.4 million per year. Either Tina is very wrong on that number or I need to send my resume to the Special Counsel.

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    $1.4 million per year per attorney? Sweet.

  490. Tina says:

    Xi read it and will link it bl, when i get my claws back on it.

  491. Tina says:

    Brian Fallon
    Brian Fallon
    @brianefallon
    I regret I didnt know about Christopher Steele’s hiring pre-election. If I had, I would have volunteered to go to Europe and try to help him
    5:57 PM · Oct 24, 2017

    So, colluded even more with russians?

    What an arse hat.

  492. NYCmike says:

    They took Kershaw out after only 80+ pitches and 7 innings, but reliever got thru 8th, Jansen probably in for 9th.

  493. NYCmike says:

    Democrats cheered Flake’s speech…..wait, I thought Trump was cutting a deal with Chuck and Nancy?

    Also, rumor that BIPARTISAN solution for DACA being bandied about…..that is a definite way to split the Republican party in 2……pass Democrat-supported legislation.

  494. Tina says:

    Goober says that more stuff is co ing out against comedy.

  495. Tina says:

    ChuckGrassley ? @ChuckGrassley
    Whoever in DOJ is capable w authority to appoint a special counsel shld do so to investigate Uranium One “whoever” means if u aren’t recused
    6:33 PM – Oct 24, 2017

    Paging jef sessions. It is time to unrecuse yourself.

  496. Chicon says:

    Tina, who is goober?

  497. Mr.Vito says:

    Graham

  498. lisab says:

    podesta GROUP under investigation now

    someone talked

  499. lisab says:

    bill clinton must be just beside himself

    hillary knows all the dirt so he cannot abandon her

    but

    he must think she is a dangerous amateur

  500. lisab says:

    apparently heather lind says george hw bush pinched her bum, which i believe

    but to call Heather Lind an actress … ummmmmmmmm … i am not buying that

  501. Tina says:

    An emoloyeee,

    Manafort was an employee at one time.

  502. lisab says:

    harvey weinstein rapes several actresses and sexually assaults a bunch more

    george hw bush pinches heather lind’s bum

    cnn’s lead is …

    obviously heather lind

  503. lisab says:

    THe reports are niw suggesting that an employee has turned against podesta. tina
    ————————————–
    tina,

    sorry, i did not see you already posted that

    yes, the rumor is someone or two is/are talking

  504. lisab says:

    NYC always refers to my law degree to put me down.
    ———————————————–

    that is unfair

    nyc you should not make fun of people who are challenged

  505. lisab says:

    i am kind of upset at george h w bush.

    heather lind! really!?!?!?! you were president

    someone should start a gofundme account to get him an intern …

  506. lisab says:

    so there is now a rumor that fusion was given an ultimatum by a court to show ALL their financial records …

    which caused them to rat out hillary and the dnc on the dossier in hopes of avoiding handing over their funding records

  507. Gpo says:

    Rich Lowry says odds are McSally gets in.

  508. Mr.Vito says:

    “yes, the rumor is someone or two is/are talking”

    Tucker Carlson is explicitly saying a source that worked for the Podestas is giving him information.

  509. lisab says:

    Tucker Carlson is explicitly saying a source that worked for the Podestas is giving him information.
    ——————————————–

    in addition … there is a rumor that someone or possibly two is/are talking to the feds

    it could be the same person or just a rumor

    but … it makes sense that once one person talks everyone will talk. no one wants to be the only person without immunity from the feds

  510. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/smoking-gun-email-reveals-obama-doj-blocked-conservative-groups-from-settlement-funds-gop-lawmaker-says.html

    “While Eric Holder was U.S. attorney general, the Justice Department allowed prosecutors to strike agreements compelling big companies to give money to outside groups not connected to their cases to meet settlement burdens. Republican lawmakers long have decried those payments as a “slush fund” that boosted liberal groups, and the Trump DOJ ended the practice earlier this year.

    But internal Justice Department emails released Tuesday by Goodlatte indicated that not only were officials involved in determining what organizations would get the money, but also Justice Department officials may have intervened to make sure the settlements didn’t go to conservative groups.”

  511. Mr.Vito says:

    Sounds like a shakedown operation…

  512. NYCmike says:

    Looks like, sounds like, acts like…….but Bitterlaw “believes” I said something about Obama EO’s, so he will concentrate on that.

    That link Lisab just posted about George h w Bush…..goes in line with the link I posted about Elie Wiesel……media will make it so that pinching a but is the same as forcing a woman to let you lick her v*gina while she is mdnstruating……..Harvey is one sick puppy!

  513. Bitterlaw says:

    Rumors and unnamed sources? Many at HHR blast Robbie for posts based on that type of “evidence.”. Consistency really does not matter here.

  514. NYCmike says:

    ” Many at HHR blast Robbie for posts based on that type of “evidence.”.”

    -The story is being reported by several outlets, as opposed to one person’s twitter account.

    That is the difference……might be too subtle for you to notice. /

  515. NYCmike says:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453024/never-trump-critics-gop-agree-core-issues

    -I thought this line was a clear sign of the difference between the 2 “warring” sides:

    “but in any national election”

    “On illegal immigration, the establishment opposes a wall and likely strict enforcement, but in any national election (see Romney’s 2012 positions), their view sounds no different from Trump’s. On Obamacare, the mainstream is a bit more reluctant to repeal rather than reform, but both sides may end up supporting either.”

  516. NYCmike says:

    “but in any national election”

    -Certain Republicans campaign one way, would govern in another manner……odd that Romney didn’t win…..

  517. NYCmike says:

    “Again, Trump is a symptom of widespread disgust, not the head of a carefully crafted ideological movement with a checklist of issues. What created him was furor at a smug, entrenched Republican political establishment. In a bout of virtue-signaling, this cadre had deliberately conflated opposition to illegal immigration with supposedly racist resistance to legal immigration, while damning principled conservatives as “nativist” and “xenophobes” simply for wanting existing laws enforced.”

  518. NYCmike says:

    VDH to be labeled a “TRUMP CHUMP” in 3…..2……1……

  519. Bitterlaw says:

    Once again, NYC misses the point. I never said the rumors were not true. I just pointed out that many at HHR are no different than Robbie. They embrace any rumor and unnamed source that fits their narrative.

  520. mnw says:

    Salena Zito has an interesting article about a GOP MI Senate candidate named John James, a young AA West Point grad. Link at RCP. He seems very impressive. Zito is one of those, like Kurt Schlicter, that I read automatically, no matter what they are discussing.

  521. mnw says:

    I enjoy seeing HRC slow-roasted by scandal as much as anybody, but …she’s not going to be on any ballot ever again. From a political relevancy standpoint, the GOP might just as well investigate Dukakis or John Edwards.

  522. NYCmike says:

    ” They embrace any rumor and unnamed source that fits their narrative.”

    -Did you look at the links?

    The one I posted has actual emails.

    It is not “rumors”, “unnamed sources”, and tweets from “Lord Fauntleroy” or whomever Robbie digs up in his #NeverTrump fanaticism.

  523. Todd McCain says:

    Love that this Russia story is starting to boomerang.

  524. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    Fortunately, it seems like there are other names involved…..Hillary’s tentacles reach many layers.*

    *This is a rumor and without evidence. Purely speculative on my part.

  525. NYCmike says:

    John James?

    Was that the guy whose father started the auto-parts business?

    I think I read that the other day. Very impressive story.

  526. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    But Robbie said we are DOOMED in 2018, and the Republican Party is being “damaged beyond repair” by President Trump and CHUMPS!

  527. Bitterlaw says:

    536 Poster Trump said the same thing in 2016 but NYC gives him a free pass.

  528. NYCmike says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/24/jeff-flake-authenticates-the-party-of-trump/

    -Person from CNN is claiming “Flake’s speech will go down as one of the most historic.”

    YUP, TIME TO GO! Please leave NOW!

  529. NYCmike says:

    “but NYC gives him a free pass.”

    -IGNORE would be the proper phrase.

  530. NYCmike says:

    Actually, “2016” would be the KEY WORDS there, Big Guy.

  531. Tina says:

    Yup, scandal is boimeranging.

  532. Bitterlaw says:

    In 2016, Poster Trump said Trump would lead the GOP to historic losses in 2016. Yet, NYC accepts Poster Trump’s new act.

    Ignore is the same as a free pass, Sport.

  533. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    55m
    “Clinton campaign & DNC paid for research that led to the anti-Trump Fake News Dossier. The victim here is the President.” @FoxNews

    Cannnot argue with him there

  534. NYCmike says:

    A lot of people said a lot of things in 2016.

    MOST were wrong.

    I’ll allow for people to learn new realities.

    You included.

  535. MichiganGuy says:

    Flake won’t rule out 2020 presidential bid

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/357037-flake-wont-rule-out-2020-presidential-bid

    That is funny ?

  536. NYCmike says:

    Stephanopoulus pushing Flake to a Republican primary….is there a clearer sign that he needs to go?

  537. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t believe in redemption. Trump Guru is a Republican-hating troll. NYC is willing to accept his new act. I am not.

  538. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    If Trump continues picking conservative judges, maintains a mostly-conservative cabinet, pushes mainly conservative legislation, and enforces the law properly, would you vote for Flake over him in a theoretical 2020 primary?

  539. NYCmike says:

    “NYC is willing to accept his new act. I am not.”

    -Is this an internet political blog, or the floor of the United States Senate?

  540. Chicon says:

    547 – what of MD’s latest act?

  541. NYCmike says:

    http://ijr.com/2017/10/1005133-nicolle-wallace-members-trump-admin-not-appear-human-beings/

    -This a person Robbie probably worships….a person who thinks John Kelly would hold the press conference last week because Trump made him do it.

  542. NYCmike says:

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_politics/2017/10/rally_organizer_sues_marty_walsh_for_100m

    -Could anything come of this?*

    *I won’t simply ask Bitterlaw, since that would show “contempt”

  543. Chicon says:

    If there’s no redemption, what’s the incentive to change?

  544. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You know I don’t vote for challengers in primaries. I would make an exception if Christie ran against Trump but it will not happen.

    As of now, I do not plan on voting in the 2020 Presidential primary. If Trump is the nominee, I will be struck voting for him again. Voting for that scumbag twice is enough.

  545. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – The incentive to change is that a person can be better or at least less hurtful going forward. However, that person can never be forgiven for what they did in the past. They own that forever.

  546. jason says:

    We are trading Flakes and Corkers for Moores.

    What a great deal.

    Ward is another COD, will give the seat to the Dems.

    I am sure NYC is ok with that.

  547. Bitterlaw says:

    MD can’t be redeemed, either. Unlike NYC, I try to be consistent.

  548. Chicon says:

    555 – that doesn’t sound like incentive to me.

  549. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – Let’s go with an extreme example. If the evil doctor at Auschwitz had later developed a cure for many forms of cancer, would he be redeemed? I say no.

  550. jason says:

    The comments on the moonbat sites (yeah, Wobbie’s favorite sources like the Huff Post) are full of “well Hillary is entitled to fund opposition research, everyone does it”.

    Aren’t these the same people that were shocked and outraged, I tell you, when Donald Trump Jr. supposedly agreed to a meeting because he was promised dirt on Hillary.

  551. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m an Irish Catholic. We do not forgive or forget. If we say we forgive you, we don’t. We are just waiting for a good time to bring it up.

  552. jason says:

    So Hillary funded a foreign agent to dig up dirt from the Russians on Trump. You have to pay to get dirt, so Hillary’s money was given to Russians in order to damage Trump’s campaign.

    Isn’t that “collusion” with the Russians, or am I missing something here.

  553. jason says:

    We are just waiting for a good time to bring it up.”

    My wife has a great ability to bring up examples of my faults and transgressions to fit just about an occasion.

    And she is not even Catholic.

  554. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is the kind one. As they said in his village, “The angry llama and the happy goat taste the same.”

    It makes no sense in English.

  555. jason says:

    “Any” occasion, not “an”.

  556. Phil says:

    Naw, Jason. It’s Hillary so no collusion. Just opposition research. What? You can’t see how this is different from Trump? Tune in to CNN. They will explain it to you.

  557. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – She obviously had some Irish ancestors.

  558. Bitterlaw says:

    My wife has the ability to relate almost any situation to an episode of The Brady Bunch.

  559. Phil says:

    Flake’s speech will go down in history – CNN

    Up there with the Gettysburg address no doubt.

  560. jason says:

    We also say “only llamas die before the feast”.

    Roughly translates into don’t put the cart before the horse.

  561. Trump says:

    Technically, Trump is destroying the GOP as currently constituted, moron BL.

    Look at Corker, Strange and Flake. With more to come.

    The surprising thing is, Trump is turning out to be a builder, not destroyer. Building the GOP in his own image.

    Now that Flake is out, Trump should focus on Paul Ryan.

  562. Phil says:

    “We have nothing to fear but Trump himself”

    Famous quote pulled from Flake senate speech.

  563. jason says:

    In Quechua we say “opposition research in the eyes of a donkey is different from opposition research in the eyes of an elephant”.

    I left the village decades ago, I might be forgetting exactly what the saying was. For one, we had donkeys but not elephants.

  564. jason says:

    uilding the GOP in his own image.”

    Yep, the Democratic image.

  565. Trump says:

    Oppo research is not illegal. Nor is talking to Russians.

    However, FBI using the oppo research to obtain FISA warrant would be illegal.

    Mueller’s sole purpose is to cover up his own collusion with Russians.

    If only we had an Attorney General who is not drooling under his desk…

  566. Trump says:

    “Yep, the Democratic image.”

    Sure. who wants the Rep image? Not even Rep voters.

  567. Bitterlaw says:

    Building the GOP in Trump’s image? That shou,d make Schumer and the Democrats happy as the donations flow in.

  568. Phil says:

    Well, yeah. It would be nice if Sessions got off his duff.

  569. Trump says:

    Trump is rolling in campaign money, and hurting the DNC.

    The rest of the GOP? Fu cked up.

    Not that the moron BL would notice.

  570. Trump says:

    So, idiot BL, donations are not flowing in to DNC, and thus not making Shumer and the DNC happy.

    I know, this hurts your so-called brain.

  571. Trump says:

    However, the lying corrupt GOP congress critters are suffering from lack of campaign donations.

    Go figure.

    Couldn’t have happened to nicer bunch of cra*-weasels.

  572. Phil says:

    “I come to bury Trump, not to praise him”

    Another immortal passage from Flake’s truly “historic” speech.

  573. NYCmike says:

    “Yep, the Democratic image.”

    -Mattis, Tillerson, Devos, Carson, Pruitt…..YUP, DEMOCRATIC IMAGE!

    INDEED!

  574. NYCmike says:

    “We are trading Flakes and Corkers for Moores.”

    -Actually, we traded Corker for https://blackburn.house.gov/ Blackburn hopefully, which would be a DEFINITE UPGRADE.

    As for Flake, Ward, DeWitt, McSally maybe will enter a primary.

    Are you opposed to primaries?

  575. Phil says:

    It’s unanimous. The Flake speech a real profile in courage. All the people that matter agree – Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Mika, Cher…..the list is endless.

  576. NYCmike says:

    And, we got Moore because Mitch decided to torpedo Mo Brooks.

  577. Trump says:

    Republicans suffering:

    “14 incumbents (12 Republicans and 2 Democrats) have raised less money than at least one of their challengers. 42 incumbents have raised less from individual donors than at least one of their opponents (6 Democrats, 36 Republicans), and a whopping 99 incumbents (13 Democrats, 86 Republicans) – 37% of incumbents who have challengers — are being outraised by their opponent in small donations, or donations of less than $200.”

  578. NYCmike says:

    ” All the people that matter agree – Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Mika, Cher…..the list is endless.”

    -As I stated earlier, CLEAR SIGNAL that it was time for Flake to leave.

  579. Chicon says:

    Bitter – let’s take a less extreme example. Reagan voted democrat for decades; then became a Republican, won the Cold War, and fixed the economy for a generation with tax cuts. Redeemed? I’d say so.

  580. Phil says:

    ….Clooney, Schumer, Michael Moore, Andrea Mitchell, Matt Damon – others giving kudos to the Flake epic speech.

  581. Trump says:

    Meanwhile, Trump cruising:

    “RNC sees a fundraising boom while congressional campaign group struggles”

  582. Trump says:

    “The Republican National Committee raised over $100 million since the start of the year, according to a report from McClatchy. The record-breaking total marks the first time the RNC has raised that sum in that time period in a non-election year.

    The large figure is attributed to small-dollar donors who support President Trump, according to the report. Nearly 60 percent of the RNC’s fundraising for the year came from these types of donors.

    In September alone, which marks the end of the third fundraising quarter, the RNC raised $10.4 million. The group has $44.1 million on hand overall.”

  583. Trump says:

    “The accomplishment marked the first time the RNC raised that amount, that fast, in a non-presidential election year. September’s $10.4 million give the RNC $44.1 million in the bank with a total of $104.4 million raised this year.

    Across the aisle, the Democratic National Committee had raised $52 million by the end of September with $7 million cash on hand. “

  584. Phil says:

    Accolades continue to roll in on the Flake “historic” speech – Hillary, Pelosi, McCain, Popeye the sailor, the Locke Ness monster, Harvey Weinstein….

  585. Chicon says:

    Phil, the Ghost of Mother Teresa has also weighed in with positive comments.

  586. Robbie says:

    Impossible. Sean Hannity and the other Trump sycophants on FoxNews have assured me Trump is awesome.

    POLITICO Playbook?
    @playbookplus

    EXCLUSIVE POLL: Voters see Trump as reckless, not honest http://politi.co/2i31zfD via @POLITICO_Steve

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/25/trump-poll-reckless-honest-244126?utm_content=buffer7e293&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  587. Phil says:

    Reporters from the NYT said this morning that they were “shocked” that they were lied to regarding the Trump dossier by Clinton and DNC operatives.

    Shocked I say!

  588. Phil says:

    Thanks Robbie. I forgot about Politico. They also called the Flake speech “truly historic”.

  589. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is here!

    TRUMP CHUMPS, play time!

  590. Robbie says:

    The Republican Party is breaking apart right now, but the Trump chumps and the sycophants don’t care. All they care about is defending the lifelong liberal from NYC and attacking lifelong conservatives like Jeff Flake.

  591. Trump says:

    Still peddling fake polls.

    Cretin Robbie never changes.

    One note.

  592. Trump says:

    Still struggling with the word “lifelong”.

    Cretin Robbie never changes.

  593. DW says:

    Looking again at the VA Gov polls by Roanoke and the one by CNU. Comparing to their final polls in 2013, if they are as far off now as they were in 2013, then you can see the race is a tossup:

    Christopher Newport U:

    Northam 48
    Gillespie 44

    Roanoke College:

    Northam 50
    Gillespie 44

    2013:

    Final Results:

    McAwful 48
    Cuccinelli 45.5

    Christopher Newport U:

    McAwful 45 (-3)
    Cuccinelli 38 (-7.5)

    Roanoke College:

    McAwful 48 ( – )
    Cuccinelli 33 (-12.5)

  594. Trump says:

    “Conservative groups get behind Bannon revolt against Republican establishment”

    These must not be “lifelong” conservatives that the cretin keeps bleating about.

  595. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Post some more ACU and CFG ratings please.

  596. NYCmike says:

    “The Republican Party is breaking apart right now,”

    -And you are choosing the side that is being applauded by Schumer, Pelosi, Stephanopoulos, late-night hosts, Michael Moore, etc.

  597. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 25, 2017 at 9:56 am
    Thanks Robbie. I forgot about Politico. They also called the Flake speech “truly historic”.

    – Wake up, Phil. Flake’s speech was historic. Name another Senator who has gone to floor to speak against his own party’s president in such a way. Flake challenged Trump’s fitness to serve.

    I’m sorry the polling data from Politico went against what you want to hear, but you are in an increasingly smaller and smaller minority when it comes to Trump.

    If you want to claim it doesn’t count because it comes from Politico, go right ahead. That’s dumb and you’re better than that, but Trumpism leads otherwise sane people to bad spots.

  598. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 9:56 am
    Robbie is here!
    TRUMP CHUMPS, play time!

    – You are the poster child for a Trump chump.

  599. Trump says:

    Did Trump grab your mom’s pus$y this morning, cretin Robbie?

  600. NYCmike says:

    That VDH link – 90% of Republicans in 2016 voted FOR Trump (or AGAINST HILLARY, although that choice was NOT technically on the ballot). Same as voted for McCain, little bit less than voted for Romney.

    Somehow, Trump won.

    Also, there is NOT a candidate like Obama coming along any time soon for the Democrats.

    BUT, Robbie will choose to think like the people who, on a daily basis, accuse the Republican Party of all sorts of transgressions against humanity.

  601. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:00 am
    Robbie,
    Post some more ACU and CFG ratings please.

    – Poor NYCMike. What is Angle’s ACU rating in the Senate? What about Mourdock or COD? What about Buck’s ACU rating in the Senate. How did all of your real conservative Tea party heroes vote on Obamacare this past Summer?

    By the way, where’s your hero Ted Cruz these days?

  602. NYCmike says:

    “– You are the poster child for a Trump chump.”

    -Is this a paid gig?

  603. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:05 am
    Did Trump grab your mom’s pus$y this morning, cretin Robbie?

    – No, but I bet you’d like Trump to use his teeny tiny orange hand to pull on your stubby little d$ck.

  604. NYCmike says:

    🙂

    Robbie, you bring a smile every day to my face.

    Please mention Napolitano again!

  605. NYCmike says:

    “– No, but I bet you’d like Trump to use his teeny tiny orange hand to pull on your stubby little d$ck.”

    President Trump may look to hire you for his Twitter account!

  606. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Please list all of the HHR posters who are “TRUMP CHUMPS”.

    I want to make sure I include everybody in the yearbook.

  607. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:08 am
    ?
    Robbie, you bring a smile every day to my face.
    Please mention Napolitano again!

    – What doesn’t bring a smile to my face is seeing how empty your claims of being a Tea Party conservative have been all these years. Along comes a lifelong liberal who’s a total fraud and you swoon like a high school girl for him and defend him at every point along the way.

  608. NYCmike says:

    “Along comes a lifelong liberal ….”

    -Wait, Trump is governing the same way Hillary would have??

    The news media seems to be saying the exact opposite….dang #FAKE NEWS!

  609. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:13 am
    “Along comes a lifelong liberal ….”
    -Wait, Trump is governing the same way Hillary would have??
    The news media seems to be saying the exact opposite….dang #FAKE NEWS!

    – We’re nine months into this presidency and the best NYCMike has to offer is “but Hillary”.

  610. Trump says:

    How big is Flake’s dic%, Robbie? Does it hurt?

  611. NYCmike says:

    Who said “but Hillary”?

    You are making a claim that Trump is a “lifelong liberal”.

    His governing style AND ACTIONS say the complete opposite.

    Either his actions are being reported incorrectly, or you are full of SH*T.

  612. NYCmike says:

    “Either his actions are being reported incorrectly, or you are full of SH*T.”

    Robbie,

    I think I’ll choose to put my boots on.

  613. Phil says:

    The list of those calling the Flake speech “historic” continues to grow….Matt Lauer, Robbie, Elizabeth Warren, Trigger, Doris Day….

  614. Trump says:

    The poor cretin does not understand the meaning of the term “lifelong”.

    Based on his history, that’s not a surprise. Par for his level of stupidity.

  615. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    List the “lifelong liberal” policies Trump is pushing or has implemented.

    Thanks in advance.

  616. Trump says:

    First of all, define “lifelong”

  617. NYCmike says:

    The more I hear about Flake’s speech….the more I look forward to Trump’s State of the Union!

    Prediction: He will hold it in the largest facility possible, and tickets will be sold to the masses!

  618. jason says:

    To the victors the spoils. I have always said that the “Republican” party represented by Trump and by the deadenders was not my R party, and for this reason I left the party. I now feel free to support anything I view worthwhile, but I no longer feel any obligation to vote the straight party ticket like I did for decades.

    This happens. The R party I signed up for, smaller government, personal responsibility, free trade, free enterprise, low taxes, etc, has bee replaced by a coalition of Democrats like Trump and deadenders like Ted Cruz.

    Nothing illegitimate about it, they won fair and square. And if that is the kind of party the majority of R primary voters want, they can have it.

  619. Phil says:

    MSNBC, Bernie Sanders, Bob Corker, Ben Affleck, Mister Ed…….the list continues to grow.

  620. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    Did you read that VDH link?

    Our differences are smaller than you think.

    As I have stated many times, compromise is possible, as long as you agree that making Democrats compromise FIRST is the right thing to do.

  621. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    Other than immigration, what actual proposals do you totally disagree with?

    NOTHING has been done on trade yet, unless you think that TPP was something that should be passed.

  622. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Still waiting for that list of “lifelong liberal” policies Trump is pushing or has implemented………

  623. Phil says:

    I don’t feel obligated to vote for anyone with an R by their name either. The problem for Democrats is that they have moved so far left they aren’t getting my vote as the alternative party.

    They are garbage as well.

  624. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #629
    Add: Wendy Davis, Kathie Griffen, Barbara Streisand, Colin Kaepernick and the Dixie Chicks!

  625. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:18 am
    The list of those calling the Flake speech “historic” continues to grow….Matt Lauer, Robbie, Elizabeth Warren, Trigger, Doris Day….

    – Find me another example of a sitting Senator going to the floor of the Senate and attacking the president of his own party in such terms.
    Yes, this was historic.

    I understand one of the new pillars of conservatism in the age of Trump is attacking the media, but that doesn’t make it right. Just because you don’t want to hear it doesn’t make it wrong.

  626. NYCmike says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/obama-era-uranium-deal/index.html

    -Robbie to say “Nothing to see here!” in 3…..2…..1…..

  627. Phil says:

    Ah yeas…how could I leave out my Wendy.

  628. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:27 am
    I don’t feel obligated to vote for anyone with an R by their name either. The problem for Democrats is that they have moved so far left they aren’t getting my vote as the alternative party.
    They are garbage as well.

    – And the problem for Republicans is they no longer stand for anything other than what Trump rants about or tweets about.

  629. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie, can we get a definition of “lifelong” please?

    Just so we can level-set on what a low-level mentally-challenged sub-human thinks?

  630. Tina says:

    House still needs to subpoena the bank records of fusion, they would not come out with this, other than trying to trick the judge.

  631. Trump says:

    Yes, Trump decimation of the GOP field in 2016 was historic.

    All hail Trump.

  632. NYCmike says:

    “Yes, this was historic.”

    -It is a nothing burger, and Flake will disappear into anonymity in a short time. Hopefully, Corker, McCain will give the same type of speech, the voters will more clearly see which Republicans side with liberal Democrats.

  633. NYCmike says:

    “– And the problem for Republicans is they no longer stand for anything other than what Trump rants about or tweets about.”

    Still waiting for that list of “lifelong liberal” policies Trump is pushing or has implemented………

  634. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:27 am
    Robbie,
    Still waiting for that list of “lifelong liberal” policies Trump is pushing or has implemented………

    – If you think Trump is driving the train on policy or has any idea about policy, then you are out to lunch.

    Trump is policy illiterate.

  635. Trump says:

    Republicans never stood for anything but what their Chamber of Commerce donors told them to.

    That is why you got Trump.

  636. Trump says:

    “Trump is policy illiterate.”

    So is everyone else.

  637. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is policy illiterate.”

    -Today Trump is “policy illiterate”.

    24 hours ago he was responsible for Congress NOT writing any legislation.

  638. Trump says:

    Here’s a policy, suck on it.

  639. Tom says:

    531. mnw – I’m late to the conversation, but if HRC had gone quietly into the night I might agree with you. However, she has chosen to travel the country and the world whining about her loss and criticizing President Trump. This is particularly egregious on foreign soil. I say bury the bitch and take slick Willie with her.

  640. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Add: Dan Rather, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Kamala Harris, Valerie Plame and Bunu(and his aliases)

  641. Phil says:

    So tell us, Robbie – exactly what do McCain and Susan Collins stand for?

  642. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:31 am
    “Yes, this was historic.”
    -It is a nothing burger, and Flake will disappear into anonymity in a short time. Hopefully, Corker, McCain will give the same type of speech, the voters will more clearly see which Republicans side with liberal Democrats.

    – I’d much rather be part of party that include conservatives like Corker, McCain, Flake, Bush, Rubio, and Romney than in a party that includes Trump, Bannon, and you. You and your fake Tea Party views have been exposed as empty. All you want is someone who is going “tell it like it is”.

  643. Trump says:

    Trump keeps the light shining, and the cockroaches keep scattering.

  644. NYCmike says:

    “– If you think Trump is driving the train on policy or has any idea about policy, then you are out to lunch.”

    -Actually, I have been saying, repeatedly, that Congress is responsible for legislation, and THEY HAVE NO REQUIREMENT to get ideas from the Executive Branch.*

    *Bitterlaw, I am sure you will back me up on this comment…..you don’t even have to go to the archives to do so.

  645. NYCmike says:

    “All you want is someone who is going “tell it like it is”.”

    Still waiting for that list of “lifelong liberal” policies Trump is pushing or has implemented………

  646. Trump says:

    “I’d much rather be part of party of…”

    We all agree.

  647. NYCmike says:

    Tom,

    Well stated!

  648. Tina says:

    Dossier is trending on twitter.

    Love it.

    All the news and my local radio host is livid at the drats dor colluding with the russians.

  649. Phil says:

    “Republicans never stood for anything but their Chamber of Commerce donors told them to”

    Sadly, some truth to that.

  650. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:33 am
    “Trump is policy illiterate.”
    -Today Trump is “policy illiterate”.
    24 hours ago he was responsible for Congress NOT writing any legislation.

    – Your dunce cap is on too tight today. The Congress has trouble writing any legislation because they never know what Trump wants because Trump never knows what Trump wants. And when Trump does tell someone what he wants, he goes back on it hours later after Hannity tells him something else. That’s exactly what happened with the Alexander/Murray bill last week.

  651. NYCmike says:

    Anything Robbie?

    That list of lifelong liberal policies…..

  652. Tina says:

    Grassley calls for sc of uranium one.

  653. NYCmike says:

    “That’s exactly what happened with the Alexander/Murray bill last week.”

    -Thank GOD for that!

  654. NYCmike says:

    Maybe Congress should just re-submit the bills they passed when Obama was President……oh, Trump would sign them…..that is a problem?!?

  655. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:38 am
    “Republicans never stood for anything but their Chamber of Commerce donors told them to”
    Sadly, some truth to that.

    – I’d much rather have the Chamber of Commerce influencing the Republican Party than the nativists, Breitbart, Rush, Hannity, Dobbs, and the other idiots who are in Trump’s circle of trust.

  656. Tina says:

    All we need is for trump to repeal nafta.

    Bushobama no more.

  657. NYCmike says:

    Hannity is the one who saved us from Alexander/Murray?

    Dang, he is smarter and more effective than I thought!

  658. NYCmike says:

    “and the other idiots who are in Trump’s circle of trust.”

    -90% of Republican voters in the last election…….

  659. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:38 am
    “That’s exactly what happened with the Alexander/Murray bill last week.”
    -Thank GOD for that!

    – Yeah, why would we want to get the issue of the table through the election in hopes of gaining enough Senate seats to repeal the bill in 2019 when we can let the markets collapse and have Republicans take the blame. Brilliant!

  660. NYCmike says:

    Robbie got the “devil” comment number…..just saying…..

  661. Tina says:

    More winning trump twitter feed exceeds 40million.

  662. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:39 am
    Maybe Congress should just re-submit the bills they passed when Obama was President……oh, Trump would sign them…..that is a problem?!?

    – My god. You’re back to this nonsense again. Why don’t you go back to being a Tea Party purist and stop supporting Trump?

  663. jason says:

    I agree with most of what Flake said, and I am sorry he is leaving the Senate.

    However, I think his speech only helps the Democrats and enables the MSM, and he is missing the bigger picture.

    And Trump is making a mistake in almost ensuring he won’t have a majority to pass his agenda.

    Flake and Trump are both wrong, unfortunately for the rest of us

  664. Phil says:

    Rather have the Chamber of Commerce influencing the Republican Party

    Of course you would. totally consistent with your love for Jeb and open borders. Not a shocker.

  665. NYCmike says:

    “– Yeah, why would we want to get the issue of the table…”

    -You sound like Karl Rove. That era did NOT end up well. In fact, it ended with 8 years of Obama.

    I’ll take my stand NOW, no need to compromise until the Democrats give something up first.

  666. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:42 am
    More winning trump twitter feed exceeds 40million.

    – Plenty of bots in that number. Kinda like when your new hero Roy Moore suddenly gained 20000 followers over this past weekend. All were bots.

  667. jason says:

    I’d much rather have the Chamber of Commerce influencing the Republican Party than the nativists, Breitbart, Rush, Hannity, Dobbs, and the other idiots who are in Trump’s circle of trust.”

    Me too, actually.

    I hate to agree with Wobbie on anything, but I have agreed in the past with NYC and survived.

  668. NYCmike says:

    ” You’re back to this nonsense again. ”

    -Pointing out that the last Congress passed bills (without input from the President) that would be signed into law by the current President (without his input)?

    YES, I pointed that out again.

  669. DW says:

    So the Democrats caught paying the Russians after accusing Trump for doing so is somewhat like the Biblical story of Esther, Mordecai and Haman.

    Haman hates Mordecai and builds gallows on which to hang him, gets the date scheduled on the calendar to do it, but Esther turns the tables and Haman is hung on his own gallows.

  670. NYCmike says:

    “And Trump is making a mistake in almost ensuring he won’t have a majority to pass his agenda.”

    -You are saying that Republican Senators would actively go against legislation they would normally vote for because they are emotionally against this President…….and we want those types of people representing the United States?

  671. jason says:

    Zzzzzzz…..

    Wobbie wants to pretend Trump does not have a big following, he does.

    His approval rating is remarkably close to what he got in the GE, meaning the MSM meme that he has lost support among his base is wishful thinking only a MSM sycophant like Wobbie believes in.

  672. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:44 am
    “– Yeah, why would we want to get the issue of the table…”
    -You sound like Karl Rove. That era did NOT end up well. In fact, it ended with 8 years of Obama.
    I’ll take my stand NOW, no need to compromise until the Democrats give something up first.

    – Wait until you see how the Trump era ends. I’ll be interested to see who you scapegoat then. It won’t be Ted Cruz, but it will probably be everyone else.

  673. Phil says:

    Flake leaving…doesn’t effect the Arizona senate race negatively at all. He was done in any GE. If it lures Dewit or McSally into the race we might even save the seat.

  674. Robbie says:

    Cambridge Analytica is funded by the Mercers and they were a big part of Trump’s campaign.

    Justin Miller?
    @justinjm1 16m
    16 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Cambridge Analytica boss says he asked Assange for Clinton’s emails

  675. NYCmike says:

    “– Wait until you see how the Trump era ends.”

    -I promise to not do an “MD” and run away.

    Do you also promise to be here when “the Trump era ends” (hopefully on January 20, 2025, when Pence/Haley take over)?

  676. jason says:

    ou are saying that Republican Senators would actively go against legislation they would normally vote for because they are emotionally against this President”

    Huh, leave the translations for qualified people like me, thanks.

    Yes, attacking people you need on your side in tough negotiations is not a good policy, and makes it much more difficult to arrive at a consensus, and if you think otherwise you are a moron.

    Oh, wait….

  677. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:48 am
    Zzzzzzz…..
    Wobbie wants to pretend Trump does not have a big following, he does.
    His approval rating is remarkably close to what he got in the GE, meaning the MSM meme that he has lost support among his base is wishful thinking only a MSM sycophant like Wobbie believes in.

    – 1. Trump’s twitter feed is full of fake accounts/bots. No one denies that.

    2. Trump got 46% on election day and now has about a 38% approval rating. That’s a loss of 8 points or about 10,000,000 voters.

  678. NYCmike says:

    ” I’ll be interested to see who you scapegoat then.”

    -Whom would I scapegoat?

    In all the races that Republicans have lost, it was the candidates fault: Buck, COD, Angle, Akin, Cantor, McCain, Romney, George Allen, Mike Castle, Richard Lugar, etc..

    YOU are the one who scapegoats others, instead of simply asking “What did the loser do to lose?”

  679. Robbie says:

    Noah Shachtman?
    @NoahShachtman

    EXCLUSIVE: Trump data guru says he tried to team up with @wikileaks and Julian Assange.

  680. jason says:

    Cambridge Analytica is funded by the Mercers and they were a big part of Trump’s campaign.”

    LOL

    Wobbie found the cousin of a friend of an uncle of an acquaintance of the aunt of someone that said something detrimental to Trump.

    Meanwhile, it is FACT that Hillary’s campaign financed foreign agents to collude against Trump but not a peep from Wobbie.

    You have to admire the degree of hypocrisy.

  681. Phil says:

    685

    A guy funded by the Mercers who were affiliated with the Trump campaign asked Assange for Hillary’s emails?

    That’s what you got?

    Blockbuster.

  682. jason says:

    Trump got 46% on election day and now has about a 38% approval rating.”

    Mostly its been in the low 40’s, very little difference.

    And most of the small difference would vote for him again in a nanosecond.

  683. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    You may also be a TRUMP CHUMP.

  684. jason says:

    A guy funded by the Mercers who were affiliated with the Trump campaign asked Assange for Hillary’s emails?

    That’s what you got?

    Blockbuster.”

    LOL.

    And I get that proves that Trump or his campaign had nothing to do with hacking the emails, or why would they have to “ask for it”.

  685. jason says:

    You may also be a TRUMP CHUMP.”

    Of course.

    A TRUMP CHUMP is anyone who has accepted the results of the election and moved on.

    I hope I get a coffee mug.

  686. NYCmike says:

    “I hope I get a coffee mug.”

    -Screw you! You kept refusing to allow that FEDEX guy to deliver to the farm!

  687. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:57 am
    Trump got 46% on election day and now has about a 38% approval rating.”
    Mostly its been in the low 40’s, very little difference.
    And most of the small difference would vote for him again in a nanosecond.

    – With the exception of a brief period in July and September, Trump has been below the 40% mark in the RCP average since mid-May.

  688. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    October 25, 2017 at 10:57 am
    685
    A guy funded by the Mercers who were affiliated with the Trump campaign asked Assange for Hillary’s emails?
    That’s what you got?
    Blockbuster.

    – I didn’t call it a blockbuster. You did.

  689. jason says:

    And btw Trump is at 42 and 41 in the latest two polls on RCP, suggesting that even with all the negative coverage he has hung on to at least 90% of his base.

  690. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    October 25, 2017 at 11:00 am
    You may also be a TRUMP CHUMP.”
    Of course.
    A TRUMP CHUMP is anyone who has accepted the results of the election and moved on.
    I hope I get a coffee mug.

    – No. A Trump chump is someone who has reflexively supported and continues to support every one of Trump terrible actions since he became president.

  691. Trump says:

    “2. Trump got 46% on election day and now has about a 38% approval rating. That’s a loss of 8 points or about 10,000,000 voters.”

    No wonder this cretin is so sub-human stupid.

    There is a difference between approval rating and election votes, stupid.

    In elections, there is actually an alternative.

    Is it any surprise that this sub-cretin species is still struggling with Trump?

  692. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 11:03 am
    https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/923195541059710978
    Paul Ryan becoming a TRUMP CHUMP?

    – Sadly, Paul Ryan is Reek from Game of Thrones.

  693. jason says:

    I didn’t call it a blockbuster. You did.”

    Right, Phil, Wobbie breathlessly posts it here because he thinks its insignificant.

    In 3, 2, 1 he will come up with his usual cowardly excuse “I am not saying it, I just read it”.

  694. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    October 25, 2017 at 11:05 am
    And btw Trump is at 42 and 41 in the latest two polls on RCP, suggesting that even with all the negative coverage he has hung on to at least 90% of his base.

    – The Economist/YouGov poll is one thing, but to use Rasmussen is laughable. No one has explained to me how Rasmussen, a robo-pollster, can poll the nation when robo-polling is prohibited in a number of states. And for every Economist or Rasmussen poll, there are Rueters, Gallup, and Quinnipiac.

  695. Trump says:

    Still peedling fake polls, as*hole.

  696. Trump says:

    peddling…

    though peedling may fit too.

  697. jason says:

    Screw you! You kept refusing to allow that FEDEX guy to deliver to the farm!”

    The guy is an idiot.

    What’s so difficult about “yonder by the Amish barn, take a left at the oak tree, cross the stream, and its the house after the second pasture on the right.”

  698. jason says:

    The Economist/YouGov poll is one thing, but to use Rasmussen is laughable.”

    What’s laughable is that you only accept polls that agree with your bias.

    Really stupid.

  699. NYCmike says:

    “The guy is an idiot.”

    -He even tried to charge me for all of the phone calls!

    (As seen on FEDEX website: Phone Number: N-O-P H-O-N-E)

  700. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    October 25, 2017 at 11:12 am
    The Economist/YouGov poll is one thing, but to use Rasmussen is laughable.”
    What’s laughable is that you only accept polls that agree with your bias.
    Really stupid.

    – Wrong. I have been a critic of Rasmussen going back to 2012. It was garbage then (you disagreed with me) and I have been critical of it ever since.

    Outside of Rasmussen and Zogby, I am accepting of almost every other pollster that is used in the RCP average, Huffpollster, and 538. I remain unconvinced about internet only polls, but SurveyMonkey seems to be reputable.

  701. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Still waiting on that liberal policy list….

  702. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 11:18 am
    Robbie,
    Still waiting on that liberal policy list….

    – Trump’s a fraud and you fell for it. I’d be embarrassed if I fell for it too. Clearly, you don’t care about policy either because you go to war for Trump’s emptiness every day. All you want is someone “who will tell it like it is”. You even fell for Bannon’s spin that General McMaster was weak on Iran.

  703. Trump says:

    You keep repeating the same cra*, cretin.

    “Trump’s a fraud and …”

    How is Trump a fraud?

  704. NYCmike says:

    “– Trump’s a fraud and you fell for it.”

    -The list?

  705. NYCmike says:

    “How is Trump a fraud?”

    -Robbie, anything?

  706. NYCmike says:

    ” You even fell for Bannon’s spin that General McMaster was weak on Iran.”

    -Bannon’s spin?

    Actually, it was Trump’s reluctance to decertify the Iran deal that gave credence to that opinion….Trump let it go several times, but this last time he chose differently.

    I am NOT SURE which members of the administration were for or against these actions….I do KNOW that Trump sent that deal back to the Senate to find out if Iran is abiding by the agreement.

  707. NYCmike says:

    http://nypost.com/2017/10/13/behind-trumps-latest-moves-a-return-to-constitutional-government/

    -Robbie,

    Would this make your “lifelong liberal” list?

    I DON’T THINK SO!

  708. NYCmike says:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/prufrock-swiss-plumbing-gold-amazons-phds-and-the-politics-of-reviewing-at-kirkus/article/2010187

    -This story mentions McMaster, back in July.

    President Trump called Senator Cotton for a different viewpoint.

    HE DID NOT CALL Senator Corker.

  709. Tina says:

    DIRTY CLINTON

    DRUDGE

    love it.

  710. NYCmike says:

    Going forward, will Corker, Flake and McCain side with President Trump, or with the Iranian Republican Guard?

  711. Trump says:

    I don’t know what you are frantically searching for, cretin Robbie, but once again:

    “How is Trump a fraud?”

    Should be easy, since you have spent two years bleating the same cra*.

  712. Tina says:

    Is mullah corker mad that isis fell in 9months.

    What was his strategery in 6 years?

  713. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Even https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls is re-tweeting Maggie.

    How come you didn’t?

  714. Tina says:

    TOp Hillary lawyer lied about the dossier for a year.

    The kawyer is an officer of the court and lied.

  715. JC says:

    Trump Tweet: The reason Flake and Corker dropped out of the Senate race is very simple, they had zero chance of being elected. Now act so hurt & wounded!

  716. Tina says:

    Maggie, whisper it into my ears.

    Jebot.

  717. Trump says:

    “The lawyer is an officer of the court and lied.”

    Part of job description.

  718. JC says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 11:18 am

    Robbie,

    Still waiting on that liberal policy list….
    ——————-

    You will never see it because he can’t produce any. Sad!

  719. DW says:

    CNN’s election 2016 night coverage included their reporter at Trump headquarters who was deeply troubled over the crowd chanting ‘Lock her up! Lock her up!’

    Looks like today’s news is yet another reason why they were right to chant this, and the CNN reporter was wrong.

  720. Trump says:

    RUSSIA SCRIPT FLIPPED…
    Top Hillary lawyer lied for YEAR about dossier…
    MESS: Pressure builds on Mueller to recuse himself…
    FBI On Hot Seat…

    So everyone in DC is a fraud, except Trump.

  721. NYCmike says:

    Flake -> Ward?
    McCain -> McSally?
    Corker -> Blackburn?

    Republican War On WO…..MEN?!?!

  722. Tina says:

    DC rocked.

    Drudge.

  723. Tina says:

    Flake is triggerd by the lock her up chant.

  724. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – Did Reagan “redeem” himself? No. He made better choices as he got older. He still owned his past as a Democrat. Of course, the Democrats of the 1930s and 1940s would be stunned at the current party.

  725. Tina says:

    Steele briefed several media groups,

    Bryon York.

  726. Mr.Vito says:

    Two funny parodies of CNN apple comercial.

    https://youtu.be/hHElT_bA3Ss

    https://youtu.be/6dZOVIZbDcM

  727. Tina says:

    Conversation
    stuart stevens
    stuart stevens
    @stuartpstevens
    Every campaign I ever worked for paid individuals or firms to do oppo research. I don’t get why this would be surprising?

    Lol, fat boy.

  728. Tina says:

    They are unhinged.m you have real con operatives aka never trump losers now claiming it is opposition research,, yet a year ago, they calimed otherwise.

    When is collusion not collusion?

  729. Tina says:

    r
    Campaign spokesman Brian Fallon: “I don’t know” if Hillary Clinton knew of Trump dossier http://washex.am/2i4QlqU
    8:36 AM – Oct 25, 2017

    Lol, yesterday fallon was going to go over there and help him look for dossier material.

    You know colluded.

  730. Tina says:

    THis is the biggest scandal since teapot.

  731. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 25, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    Chicon – Did Reagan “redeem” himself? No. He made better choices as he got older. He still owned his past as a Democrat. Of course, the Democrats of the 1930s and 1940s would be stunned at the current party.
    ——————-

    The democrats of 20 years ago would be stunned at the current party.

    By modern democratic standards, Bill Clinton would be seen as a rightwing radical.

  732. NYCmike says:

    “Looks like today’s news is yet another reason why they were right to chant this, and the CNN reporter was wrong.”

    -Robbie to call DW a “TRUMP CHUMP” in 3…..2….1…..

  733. NYCmike says:

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-consumers-arbitration/republicans-wall-street-score-victory-in-dismantling-class-action-rule-idUKKBN1CU06F

    https://cei.org/content/senate-stops-harmful-cfpb-arbitration-ban

    “For the record, the GOP Senators defecting were Senator Kennedy of Louisiana and…well, I think you can guess the other one.”

    -I guessed McCain. It was Graham.

    I should have realized it was Graham, since it affects trial lawyers.

  734. Tina says:

    Ari Fleischer
    @AriFleischer
    Kremlin gave info to Christopher Steele. His oppo-research was paid for by the Clinton campaign. If that’s not collusion, what is?
    4:56 AM · Oct 25, 2017

  735. NYCmike says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/23/due-process-making-comeback-college-students-accused-rape/

    “With court wins in the background, DeVos rescinded the Obama-era guidance that led to this chaos and denial of civil rights for accused students. ”

    -YES, Devos was appointed by “lifetime liberal” President Trump.

    Robbie, I don’t think this will make your list you are “refining” as we speak.

  736. NYCmike says:

    Robbie to say Ari Fleischer is a “TRUMP CHUMP” in 3….2…1….

  737. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    All these links must be “rumors” and “unnamed sources”, just like Robbie gets pounded for.

  738. NYCmike says:

    “I know dude, had to break out the long sleeves today.”

    -Pretty funny!

    Bitterlaw will like this…..Author was responding to this:

    https://twitter.com/KFoleyFL/status/923139664499892224

  739. NYCmike says:

    Out of MD, “CG”, Robbie, and Author, in my humble opinion, Author has been the most level-headed……that is saying something!

  740. Tina says:

    Fbi paid some expenses to dossier author.

    This was reported in february.

  741. NYCmike says:

    “Fbi paid some expenses to dossier author.”

    -Bitterlaw to make fun of the term “Deep State” in 3…..2…..1……

  742. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/10/25/uh-oh-sen-jeff-flake-served-up-a-resistance-buzzkill-this-morning/

    -Robbie,

    Liberals are already retreating from the “historic speech” angle……are you far behind?

  743. Jonesy says:

    Robbie still sad

  744. Jonesy says:

    Robbie needs to apologize for his foolishness for 9 months on Russia.

    He and Jeff Flake need to take a road trip

  745. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/10/25/sick-aclu-cheers-abortion-of-illegal-immigrants-baby/

    -Sick.

    Prediction: Republicans will NOT lose either chamber of Congress next year.

    They will increase numbers in Senate.

    House prediction will come before September of 2018.

  746. NYCmike says:

    “Robbie needs to apologize for his foolishness for 9 months on Russia.”

    -Jonesy,

    Get in line, I am still waiting for his “lifetime liberal” list!

  747. MichiganGuy says:

    Pennsylvania Democrat Arrested for Child Pornography Charges Including Infants and Bestiality

    https://thegoldwater.com/news/10269-Pennsylvania-Democrat-Arrested-for-Child-Pornography-Charges-Including-Infants-and-Bestiality

  748. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/video/tapper-reaffirms-hack-status-compares-trump-mccarthy/

    -Who watches Colbert, and these types of shows?

    People are staying up late to watch…..wait for it….JAKE TAPPER?

  749. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    746. “He still owned his past as a Democrat. Of course, the Democrats of the 1930s and 1940s would be stunned at the current party.”

    Are you talking about all those rednecks in the Midwest and other heartland areas who turned out in mass an voted for Trump? They are deplorable you know, all those statutes to FDR need to come down — he said racist things about the Japanese.

  750. DW says:

    dossier

    sis rode
    so rides
    sods ire
    sire sod
    Isso red

  751. DW says:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/canary-islands-volcano-eruption-tsunami-warning-cumbre-vieja-tenerife-a8018776.html

    Clearly caused by global warming in the mantle of the earth–clearly we need to raise taxes and punish the rich and give the money to the poor to resolve this.

  752. Robbie says:

    President Moron is doing some big league lying this afternoon.

    Manu Raju?
    @mkraju 3m
    3 minutes ago

    Trump says he has “one of the great memories of all time.”

  753. NYCmike says:

    Oh my gosh, Robbie!

    Get a grip on reality.

  754. NYCmike says:

    Re-tweeting Manu Ragu…..the depths of despair!

  755. NYCmike says:

    Don’t get saucy with me, Ragu!

  756. NYCmike says:

    Manu Raju?
    Verified account
    @mkraju 22h22 hours ago

    Coons, a Democrat, just choked up and nearly cried when discussing Flake. Says Senate will be a “worse place” if sens can’t express views

  757. Tina says:

    It is everywhere, clinton dossier.

    Everywhere.

  758. DW says:

    771 – strange that Dems in congress suddenly are outraged about being silenced. The Dems all STOOD and CHEERED when President Obama announced he would go it alone and executive order everything, rendering congress irrelevant.

  759. NYCmike says:

    From the MichiganGuy link:

    “But they are attacking Republican seats in Nevada and Arizona and hold out hope for an upset in a deep-red state like Texas or Tennessee.”

  760. Tina says:

    Now, we need to plow ahead.

    Rs still need to subpoena fusions bank records to ferify their claims.

    Then, we need to break the drats fbi.

  761. Tina says:

    Thank you nunez.

    Thank you gowdy

    Tou are doing better work that burr.

    Grassley is doing the best though.

  762. NYCmike says:

    “It is everywhere, clinton dossier.”

    -Nothing but “rumors” and “unnamed sources”…….

  763. Chicon says:

    772 – this is incorrect, MG. Robbie said the opposite, so……oh, never mind.

  764. Tina says:

    Way to throw down, nunez.

    You can crack this case further though.

    How much did fbi pay for the dossier.

    Was dossier used for illegal wiretapping.

  765. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/923171041614204929

    -Robbie missed this tweet, somehow…….

  766. Tina says:

    sessions, fbi dir3ctor on same page and clued in to uranium 1and clinton collusion.

    Breaking.

  767. MichiganGuy says:

    Fats Domino, rock ‘n’ roll pioneer and New Orleans hero, is dead at 89

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-me-fats-domino-dead-at-89-story.html

    R.I.P Fats Domino

  768. Trump says:

    “Coons, a Democrat, just choked up and nearly cried when discussing Flake. Says Senate will be a “worse place” if sens can’t express views”

    Democrats crying for Flake?

    Wait till you see their wailing and crying when McCain finally croaks.

  769. Chicon says:

    Robbie is busy now, searching for the liberal stuff Trump has done since January. Must be a long list because he’s been working on it awhile now….

  770. Tina says:

    Comedy appears to have threatened trump.

    He used the dossier to hold against trump, by pretending dossier was true, and refusing to state that he was not being investigated.

    Another fireable offense.

  771. Tina says:

    Put a corker in it, flake is done.

  772. NYCmike says:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/10/trumps-reckless-comments-on-bowe-bergdahl.php

    -I agree with most of this harsh assessment of Trump regarding Bergdahl.

  773. NYCmike says:

    “Wait till you see their wailing and crying when McCain finally croaks.”

    -Jackass.

  774. Charles says:

    What the hell universe am I living in? A life long solid conservative like Jeff Flake is being attacked by so-called conservatives because he is speaking out against a Liberal Democrat and Fascist president?

    Really?

  775. Tina says:

    With the collusion clinton russian matter clear, do we still blame facebook?

  776. NYCmike says:

    Charles,

    Always good for a laugh!

  777. Tina says:

    There needs to be a mass firing of the clinton groupies at the fbi.

  778. DW says:

    Top CNN headline is North Korea, and then under the heading Politics, here is the rundown.

    Top story is Flake.

    Then…

    Live updates White House blames State Dept. for Russia sanctions delay

    Trump touts Ivy League pedigree ?

    Analysis: This senator thinks it’s not his job to say Trump is lying

    Clinton campaign and DNC helped fund dossier research

    Nice. Buried below story suggesting Trump is lying.

  779. NYCmike says:

    “A life long solid conservative like Jeff Flake”

    -ACU…..CFG…..

  780. Tina says:

    Fbi under mccabe direction lost the killers laptop in the mandalay tragedy.

  781. Tina says:

    Shooters brother arrested on pedio charges.

  782. DW says:

    “Liberal Democrat and Fascist president?”

    I guess it is a weird world when Liberal Democrat and Fascist presidents nominate Neil Gorsuch to the SCOTUS.

  783. Tina says:

    DanRiehl Retweeted
    Byron York
    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    ·
    4h
    According to best knowledge today, Steele was *never* funded by Republicans.

    York is right. An r may have used fusion for reasearch, but it was not related to the steele dossiee.

  784. Tina says:

    Congressman Al Green (D-Texas) made a second case for President Trump’s impeachment for the charge of demeaning the Oval Office through his comments on Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.).

    Jebots on board for impeachment?

  785. Tina says:

    So, we want to impeach him because his cos called duh an empty barrel?

    Lol

  786. Mr.Vito says:

    799 It’s ProudObamacon.

  787. DW says:

    801–Was Al Green on board for Clinton impeachment for the way he demeaned the Oval Office by what he did under the desk with Monica?

  788. Trump says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    “Wait till you see their wailing and crying when McCain finally croaks.”

    -Jackass.

    What id your problem, dumbo? McCain croaking, or Dems wailing and crying?

  789. Tina says:

    Empty barrel is racist.

    I think kelly is awesome, especially when compared to rinse.

  790. MichiganGuy says:

    @791 Charles, Flake wasn’t that conservative.

    https://www.conservativereview.com/scorecard?party=R&state=&chamber=senate

  791. NYCmike says:

    Jackass,

    You think getting old and death is something to be flippant about?

    Then you are a jackass.

  792. NYCmike says:

    DW mentioned Gorsuch…..Robbie triggered.

  793. Trump says:

    Who said I was being flippant, idiot?

  794. Trump says:

    Are you saying McCain will not croak?

    Or Dems will not wail and cry when he does?

  795. NYCmike says:

    Jackass,

    It sure sounds flippant, jackass.

  796. Trump says:

    How does anything sound on a keyboard, dolt?

  797. Trump says:

    You still haven’t said what’s objectionable. Can’t stand reality, can you, idiot?

  798. Trump says:

    Here’s a pretty way of saying it:

    “McCain had surgery to remove the initial blood clot and is now being treated with radiation and chemotherapy while continuing to work.

    With the combination of treatments, the median survival rate (a measure of how long patients on the treatment tend to survive) is 14.6 months, according to the American Brain Tumor Association.”

  799. Trump says:

    Do you want me to amend to say “Wait till Democrats wail and cry when McCain is past the median survival rate (a measure of how long patients on the treatment tend to survive) is 14.6 months”?

  800. NYCmike says:

    You are objectionable, jackass.

  801. Trump says:

    That is not addressing the comment, dolt.

  802. NYCmike says:

    “Do you want me to amend to say “Wait till Democrats wail and cry when McCain is past the median survival rate (a measure of how long patients on the treatment tend to survive) is 14.6 months”?”

    -Jackass,

    YES, that is less objectionable.

    Thank you very much, jackass.

  803. Trump says:

    Tell papa what is bothering you, dolt.

  804. NYCmike says:

    “Tell papa what is bothering you, dolt.”

    -LOL, “papa” will have to make due on his own, AGAIN.

  805. NYCmike says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/trump-rips-clinton-link-to-fusion-gps-dossier-as-disgrace-says-russia-hoax-is-turned-around.html

    “Asked Wednesday if he knows who that was, Trump teased the media.

    “I think I would know but I won’t say,” he said. “I have one name in mind. … It will probably be revealed.””

    ““I’ll tell you what—honestly, the Republicans are very, very well united,” Trump said, while claiming there’s “hatred, division and animosity” between Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.”

  806. Trump says:

    “Trump rips Clinton link to Fusion GPS dossier as a ‘disgrace,’ says Russia ‘hoax is turned around'” – Fox News

    Trump should fire Sessions, Rosenstein, Mueller, McCabe, and the rest of the corrupt weasels.

  807. Charles says:

    Idiots – Flake was as conservative as any senator and you know it. Enjoy jerking off to your fascist Liberal Dem president, azzholes

  808. Wes says:

    Mikey and PseudoTrump are fighting. Clearly the Apocalypse is nigh.

  809. Trump says:

    Shut up, PO.

  810. NYCmike says:

    “Mikey and PseudoTrump are fighting.”

    -Only some overly-sensitive Southerner would call that “fighting”.

    It was more like 2 classmates having a different opinion on a play at the plate during recess.

  811. NYCmike says:

    “Enjoy jerking off”

    -Isn’t that the point?

  812. Charles says:

    I was never one to think that the House was in play but keep this up and we will lose the House in 2018 and it won’t be close. I hope the worship and jacking off to the Orange Azzhole was worth it.

  813. Trump says:

    He was safe, dammit

  814. Trump says:

    Even Ray Charles wouldn’t have missed that call.

  815. DW says:

    MSNBC:

    ANALYSIS: China’s ‘Chairman of Everything’ now has near-absolute authority

    Chinese President Xi Jinping has spent five years consolidating his power by purging the Communist Party ranks of rivals, and tightening its grip on society.
    His appearance Wednesday with the Communist Party’s new standing committee — handpicked loyalists who will implement Xi’s agenda for the next five years — sent the clearest signal yet that China may be entering an era of strongman rule.

    Former US President Barack Obama reported to be green with jealousy.

  816. Robbie says:

    Watching this fraud shill for Trump really has been eye opening. Cruz has never had a problem attacking Republicans, but speak against a lifelong liberal from NYC who suggested his dad helped kill JFK is too much tough guy Ted.

    The Hill?
    @thehill 27m

    Cruz rips GOP senators for criticizing Trump: “Shut up and do your job”

  817. Trump says:

    What fraud, cra& cretin Robbie?

  818. Tina says:

    Yup, shut up and pass tax cuts and build the wall, losahs.

  819. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 1:54 pm
    DW mentioned Gorsuch…..Robbie triggered.

    – The Trump 2020 campaign slogan “But Gorsuch”.

  820. Trump says:

    What is Jeb’s 2020 slogan, as*wipe?

  821. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:22 pm
    Yup, shut up and pass tax cuts and build the wall, losahs.

    – Bless your heart. You actually think a wall is going to be built. Poor thing.

  822. Chicon says:

    Robbie, has Trump done anything with which you agree?

  823. Trump says:

    Brokered convention, cretin Robbie?

  824. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is more worried about Senator’s fragile egos than about better legislative policies for the United States…..SAD!

    “Shut up and do your job!”

  825. Trump says:

    I would be concerned if the cretin agreed with Trump on anything.

  826. NYCmike says:

    “What is Jeb’s 2020 slogan, as*wipe?”

    -I may need $450 million…..for 8 delegates!

  827. NYCmike says:

    Actually, $450 million may get him 12 delegates……

  828. Tina says:

    Trump no deal on daca unkess we stop drugs, build the wal, and greater secuirty,

  829. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Still no list……

  830. Trump says:

    And you still didn’t answer the question, cretin Robbie.

    “How is Trump a fraud?”

  831. Tina says:

    The wall is being built. The proptypes are being examined. It stsrts in san diego, losah

  832. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:23 pm
    Robbie, has Trump done anything with which you agree?

    – Outside of judges, nope.

  833. Tina says:

    Trump reiteraes that if attacked, he will always counter punch.

    Phuq yeah, the rinos want to give it, but quit whenhit.

  834. NYCmike says:

    Geez, “Trump” and I hashed our issue within 5 minutes…..its been about 5 hours, and Robbie still has…..well……NOTHING!

  835. Chicon says:

    Robbie, when was the first time a border wall was proposed by Republicans as an effort to stem the flow of illegal immigrants?

  836. Tina says:

    Stick a corker in flakey.

  837. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    Robbie,
    Still no list……

    – Trump’s a fraud, your boy Cruz shills for him, and you have shown you’re not interested in conservatism because you support Trump.

  838. NYCmike says:

    “– Outside of judges, nope.”

    -Robbie is correct…..Trump VETOED all of that conservative legislation, just like Obama did!

  839. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    840. “Bless your heart. You actually think a wall is going to be built. Poor thing.”

    You do realize that there already is a wall along 650 miles of the 2,000 mile board don’t you? About 1/3 of the wall is already installed.

    http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/117554-fences-the-overall-mexican-border-situation-go-at-it-in-here/

  840. NYCmike says:

    “– Trump’s a fraud”

    -Yes, you have stated this repeatedly……please give some examples.

    THANKS in advance.

  841. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:23 pm
    Robbie is more worried about Senator’s fragile egos than about better legislative policies for the United States…..SAD!
    “Shut up and do your job!”

    – I’m more worried about the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. You, on the other hand, are just interested in defending a lifelong liberal from NYC. Must protect the Trump is your daily motto.

  842. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    The wall is being built. The proptypes are being examined. It stsrts in san diego, losah

    – Bless your heart. Congress has not approved money for the wall and they never will. A prototype is all you’re ever going to get.

  843. NYCmike says:

    “– I’m more worried about the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement.”

    -Please give some examples for the political platform you will base that party on.

  844. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    858. As have said before, I think adding more wall will be useless.

  845. Tina says:

    Losah flake even wrote a sheotty book that sold poorly

  846. Chicon says:

    Wow, Robbie, that’s revealing. Especially considering that you can’t identify one liberal thing he’s done.

  847. NYCmike says:

    Robbie – Yes or No?

    Unlimited welfare benefits to all immigrants, legal or “undocumented” (ILLEGAL)?

  848. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:28 pm
    Robbie, when was the first time a border wall was proposed by Republicans as an effort to stem the flow of illegal immigrants?

    – I don’t care.

  849. Tina says:

    Trump

    I am more popular in az than flake. Flake did the right thing, he was unelectable.

  850. NYCmike says:

    “Must protect the Trump is your daily motto.”

    -No, he is doing that himself, daily, on twitter.

  851. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:29 pm
    “– Outside of judges, nope.”
    -Robbie is correct…..Trump VETOED all of that conservative legislation, just like Obama did!

    – Trump hasn’t gotten any legislation to approve because he’s spent the last nine months pissing off the people he needs to get bills passed. What a brilliant strategy from your main man.

  852. NYCmike says:

    “– I don’t care.”

    -He doesn’t know.

  853. Tina says:

    Trump

    Hillary and thue ds lied about thue dossier.

    The tabkes have turned.

  854. Tina says:

    3 mkore congressiknal invstigations loemed up due to dssioer and uiranum 1

  855. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:29 pm
    840. “Bless your heart. You actually think a wall is going to be built. Poor thing.”
    You do realize that there already is a wall along 650 miles of the 2,000 mile board don’t you? About 1/3 of the wall is already installed.

    – And you do realize the wall Trump wants to build is never going to be built, right?

  856. Chicon says:

    Well, I think we’ve established that Robbie is not a conservative.

  857. Tina says:

    Trump you will be surprised which r created the russian dossier.

    He knows,

    Mueller knows

    It s game over.

  858. NYCmike says:

    “– Trump hasn’t gotten any legislation to approve because he’s spent the last nine months pissing off the people he needs to get bills passed. What a brilliant strategy from your main man.”

    -You keep writing this…..so we agree – Congressional leaders are more worried about their egos than passing legislation that would get them re-elected.

  859. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    861. “Bless your heart. Congress has not approved money for the wall and they never will. A prototype is all you’re ever going to get.”

    Actually three billion dollars has been spent on the wall, and many more billions will be in the future. See below from the link I posted.

    “–The first thing to bring up is that we currently have fencing along La Frontera that covers ~650 of the 2,000 miles along the US-Mexican boundary, using metal from the last Gulf War with concrete bases up to 6′ deep. It cost 3 billion and is projected to get up near 16 billion dollars by the year 2020 in further install, maintenance, materials, etc. So first things first, RIGHT NOW, we have a fence covering nearly a third of the border.”

  860. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:32 pm
    Wow, Robbie, that’s revealing. Especially considering that you can’t identify one liberal thing he’s done.

    – Yes, it’s revealing that I don’t like a lifelong liberal who has spent the last nine months tearing the Republican Party apart and discrediting the conservative movement.

    Trump is a rotten person and I’m not going to let that go simply because he’s got an R next to his name.

  861. Tina says:

    Drats will now call for mueller to quit.

    That is where this is going.

    Way to go nunez. You blew this all up, something all smoke and no fire could not do.

  862. Chicon says:

    870 – I can see the ads now in the Republican primaries….”I know I promised to do these conservative things, but the President is such a meanie that I decided to not do those things I promised so I could SEND A MESSAGE.” Those darn deadenders……

  863. Trump says:

    ” I’m more worried about the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement.”

    No you are not, lying cretin.

    If you were worried about the future of the Republican party, you would be urging the lying corrupt congress critters to stop holding each other’s dic8ks and pass some bills.

    Your only concern is that Trump is cruising to re-election, and your fragile ego cannot handle it.

  864. Tina says:

    A wall is better than fencing. I like the blue wall protype.

    I do not like the see through one because i do not want to see criminals.

  865. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If Trump came out and claimed the world was round, Robbie would content it was flat. His hatred of Trump overpowers any need to consider silly things, like facts.

  866. Tina says:

    Thankfully, we still have so,e true conservatives here in ca, like nunez.

    A rarirty since most ca rs are fig newtons.

  867. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:36 pm
    Well, I think we’ve established that Robbie is not a conservative.

    – What a load of BS, but you did fall for Andrew Napolitano’s conspiracy theory last Spring.

    If you think conservatism is now defined by shilling daily for Trump or a stupid border wall that will never get built, then you have a bastardized view of what conservatism is.

  868. Tina says:

    Rough day in jebot drat land.

    Their girl lied to them.

  869. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:39 pm
    870 – I can see the ads now in the Republican primaries….”I know I promised to do these conservative things, but the President is such a meanie that I decided to not do those things I promised so I could SEND A MESSAGE.” Those darn deadenders……

    – And I can see fake conservatives like you telling Hannity Trump was right to cut a deal with Chuck and Nancy on DACA because he needed to send Mitch McConnell a message.

  870. Chicon says:

    Robbie, how is lifelong liberal relevant now that we have actual data showing he’s governing in a conservative manner?

  871. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    883. “A wall is better than fencing.”

    A wall or fence are basically referring to the same thing, a barrier to prevent illegal entry of goods and people.

    If like like the blue wall prototype, please write a check for $20 billion to fund it, and you can received naming rights.

    For some reason, unlike California, people in other states seem to think spending billions of dollars is not chump change.

  872. Tina says:

    Mcamnesty and jeb woukd be the leading contenders for originating the dossier.

  873. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:41 pm
    If Trump came out and claimed the world was round, Robbie would content it was flat. His hatred of Trump overpowers any need to consider silly things, like facts.

    – If Trump came out and said the world was round, he would be telling the truth. That’s something he seems incapable of doing. He’s a congenital liar, but I guess that’s ok because “but Hillary” or “but Gorsuch” or “but he triggers the libs”.

  874. Bitterlaw says:

    Wait till you see their wailing and crying when McCain finally croaks.

    Trump Guru truly is dishonorable, cowardly scum. Of course, he pays taxes so he considers himself equal to McCain in service to the country.

    I will give credit to NYC for calling Trump Guru a jackass.

  875. Tina says:

    Ryano wants daca for obumbcare subsidies,

    True con

  876. Chicon says:

    886 – well, let’s look at the facts. You can’t list one liberal thing he’s done, and you can’t think of one thing (outside of judges) he’s done that you agree with. You’re a self-admitted liberal.

  877. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:44 pm
    Robbie, how is lifelong liberal relevant now that we have actual data showing he’s governing in a conservative manner?

    – Governing? Ha! That’s a good one. We have a president who is not the least bit interested in governing. If he was, he might have learned some of the details about the healthcare plan he pushed. Instead, report after report from people who spoke with Trump said he had no idea what was in the bill.

    But Trump is interested in picking fights with Gold Star parents, his AG, his Secretary of State, McConnell, McCain, Flake, Murkowski, Collins, Paul, Graham, and everyone else who doesn’t lavish the dear leader with praise.

  878. Tina says:

    Trump should piss off the rinos further.

    He should remove the exemption for senators re obumblercare.

    Make them have it.

  879. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:50 pm
    886 – well, let’s look at the facts. You can’t list one liberal thing he’s done, and you can’t think of one thing (outside of judges) he’s done that you agree with. You’re a self-admitted liberal.

    – I’m a self admitted liberal? Ha! Who knew you were a comedian.

  880. Chicon says:

    896. Nice dodge. Where’s the list of liberal stuff Trump is pushing?

  881. Tina says:

    o Retweeted
    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    33m
    What are the ramifications of @RepAdamSchiff reading into the congressional record false claims made in the dossier to push collusion? Any?

  882. Robbie says:

    Chicon doesn’t often show up, but when he does he goes pedal to the metal in his defense of Trump.

  883. Chicon says:

    898. You admit that Trump’s actions to date are conservative (given the null list of liberal actions so far). You say you agree with one of his actions. Sounds like a self-admitted liberal to me.

  884. Tina says:

    ort
    ·
    42m
    “The whole Russia thing…this was the Democrats coming up with an excuse for losing the election.” -Trump

  885. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 3:59 pm
    898. You admit that Trump’s actions to date are conservative (given the null list of liberal actions so far). You say you agree with one of his actions. Sounds like a self-admitted liberal to me.

    – I’ve admitted Trump’s action have been conservative? Really? On judges, but on nothing else.

    And while this may make you unhappy, I’m not going to make a Faustian bargain with Trump. I’m not accept his abhorrent behavior simply because it might, and I stress might, lead to a tax cut.

  886. Chicon says:

    902. Only with you, Robbie. With well balanced individuals (and Bitter, too :)), I often point out that Trump’s personality and style grate on me greatly. But, they actually read what I post.

  887. Chicon says:

    How about letting the class know your list of liberal actions taken or proposed by Trump?

  888. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:03 pm
    902. Only with you, Robbie. With well balanced individuals (and Bitter, too :)), I often point out that Trump’s personality and style grate on me greatly. But, they actually read what I post.

    – Seriously, spare me.

  889. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:05 pm
    How about letting the class know your list of liberal actions taken or proposed by Trump?

    – How about letting the class know why you fell for Andrew Napolitano’s conspiracy theory fed to him by disgraced CIA agent Larry Johnson.

  890. Mr.Vito says:

    “I don’t care.”

    Corker/Flake 2020.

  891. Tina says:

    Could be rick wilson, flubs pac head.

  892. Chicon says:

    908 & 909 are the answers of a person with no answers.

  893. Tina says:

    This has been a. Day of triggering.

    The bushes are done. 41 is a deviant.

    43 should return to being mute.

    Flub is more dumber, but mute.

  894. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:09 pm
    Could be rick wilson, flubs pac head.

    – It’s already been established Jeb’s pac did not fund the dossier.

    It was likely some faction of Ted Cruz’s campaign.

    But who cares. It’s called oppo research

  895. Tina says:

    Lol, opposition research.

  896. Tina says:

    Hillary is mute today.

    Is she in the woods?

  897. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:10 pm
    908 & 909 are the answers of a person with no answers.

    – You just aren’t willing to own up to the fact you fell for a conspiracy theory. I understand that though. I wouldn’t want to admit I was a dope either.

  898. Mr.Vito says:

    “Seriously, spare me.”

    Someone needs to…

  899. Chicon says:

    I heard the Republican involved was Gilmore.

  900. Tina says:

    Mullah corker coukd not get elected dog catcher.

    Too funny.

  901. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:14 pm
    “Seriously, spare me.”
    Someone needs to…

    – What’s your devotion to Trump gotten you legislatively these last 9 months?

  902. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    874. “– And you do realize the wall Trump wants to build is never going to be built, right?”

    That would be my hope, but am not confident it will not happen. A lot of the area still without a fence is along the Rio Grande River; crossing the river is probably more difficult than it will be to get around, under, through, the wall. Most undocumented people enter the country at the checkpoints, with entry papers of some sort.

    A large part of the workforce in San Diego and many other border areas is made up of people who commute daily from Mexico.

  903. Chicon says:

    914. I know you don’t care, but I think reasonable people would be concerned about a candidate for President colluded with the Russians to affect the outcome of the election. You were when the candidate was Trump, now you don’t care.

  904. Mr.Vito says:

    “What’s your devotion to Trump gotten you legislatively these last 9 months?”

    Everyone here knows how everyone else feels about Trump here.

    Why do you lie? Does it really make you feel better… because it doesn’t seem to be working.

  905. DW says:

    When is Hillary’s booking and mug shot scheduled?

  906. Mr.Vito says:

    And what has your admitted devotion to party gotten you, by the way?

  907. Mr.Vito says:

    I will believe someone goes to jail over this when I see it.

  908. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Hampton College Poll has Gillespie up 8(!!!) over Northam 41-33. Ridiculous, but on this site,polls are not to be questioned, right Robbie!

    LOL

  909. NYCmike says:

    “Why Jeff Flake’s Anti-Trump Speech Was Meaningless”

    -Rolling Stone called, and they forget to say “historic”.

    Robbie SAD!

  910. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:18 pm
    914. I know you don’t care, but I think reasonable people would be concerned about a candidate for President colluded with the Russians to affect the outcome of the election. You were when the candidate was Trump, now you don’t care.

    – LOL! When it was theorized Trump worked with the Russians to affect the outcome of the campaign, everyone here said it was a lie. When we got emails that showed Donny Jr. took a meeting with the expectation Russia would give him dirt on Hillary, the response was “So what. Collusion is not a crime”.

    Now when we get info that Hillary’s campaign funded the dossier, somehow everyone has decided it’s important to get to the bottom of Russia and collusion is reprehensible. Flip flop much?

  911. NYCmike says:

    NAPOLITANO!

  912. Tina says:

    The creepy podestas first.

    The gubment can seize tonys artwork and sell it.

  913. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:22 pm
    And what has your admitted devotion to party gotten you, by the way?

    – Oh I don’t know. Reagan pulled the country out of the malaise of the 1970’s. GHWB oversaw the end of the Cold War. GWB and the Republican Congress gave us tax cuts. Each were men of the traditional republican Party.

    Trump has given us nastiness and little else.

  914. Chicon says:

    926. That’s a good question for everyone. Imo, lot’s of people in both parties are answering “absolutely nothing”. If not for the failsafe super delegates, it would have been Trump v. Socialist in November. That’s a sure sign of the apocalypse (don’t tell Robbie I said that).

  915. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:22 pm
    I will believe someone goes to jail over this when I see it.

    – The only people going to jail, assuming they don’t cut deals, are Manafort and Flynn.

  916. Tina says:

    Flake, mcmullin 2020

    Gets az and ut for the ds.

  917. Mr.Vito says:

    “Reagan pulled the country out of the malaise of the 1970’s.”

    Reagan was hated by party leaders, and was responsible for ending the Cold War. GHWB gave us ‘no new taxes’ and the Clintons.

    GWB destroyed the Republican brand and gave us 8 years of Obama.

  918. DW says:

    928 – let the record show that I predicted Gillespie would win YESTERDAY before that poll came out.

  919. NYCmike says:

    “Reagan was hated by party leaders, and was responsible for ending the Cold War. GHWB gave us ‘no new taxes’ and the Clintons.

    GWB destroyed the Republican brand and gave us 8 years of Obama.”

    -Napolitano!

  920. Tina says:

    Medicare part d

    Debt

    Broken economy

    Bush 43

  921. Chicon says:

    930. That’s the point. It was THEORIZED the Trump had colluded. It has been SHOWN that Clinton did.

  922. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:30 pm
    “Reagan pulled the country out of the malaise of the 1970’s.”
    Reagan was hated by party leaders, and was responsible for ending the Cold War. GHWB gave us ‘no new taxes’ and the Clintons.
    GWB destroyed the Republican brand and gave us 8 years of Obama.

    – The idea Reagan was hated by the party is revisionist history. Certain elements didn’t care for Reagan, but certain elements didn’t care for GHWB in 1980 either. The idea Reagan was some sort of marauder who stormed into the party and stole voters is just laughable spin pushed by the hard right who try and claim Reagan as their avatar every four years during presidential primaries.

  923. Bitterlaw says:

    With well balanced individuals (and Bitter, too :)),

    WTF. I am very well-balanced. I hate Hillary and Trump. I don’t believe that anybody can be redeemed. I don’t trust any of you except for Cash Cow.

  924. DW says:

    937 – this is why I was saying yesterday that if GOP lawmakers were smart, they would be friendly with Trump and then cultivate that relationship to steer him.

    But if you take the approach of hitting Trump with a flyswatter, he is going to hit you back with a 2 x 4. I would have thought these lawmakers would have known that by now.

    But the larger problem is huge egos that come to those who go to Washington.

    Some can handle the bright lights and attention, others allow their egos to grow and they think all of DC should revolve around them.

    Trump is the president. But senators like McCain and Graham think DC revolves around them and nothing should happen unless they are asked about it first. Their fragile egos get hurt and they cry foul and expect us to feel their pain.

    Make no mistake, Trump’s ego is the largest, but at least he has the Presidency to go with it. These others don’t.

  925. NYCmike says:

    You know what – history may look kindly on Dubya Bush…..the fact that he was so bad gave us Obama, which gave us Trump, which turned our nation from the cliff…. 🙂

  926. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:34 pm
    930. That’s the point. It was THEORIZED the Trump had colluded. It has been SHOWN that Clinton did.

    – Oh so the email where Donny Jr. took a meeting with Russians on the premise they had dirt on Hillary was just nothing. In fact, it’s so much nothing that President Moron wrote a press release this last July on Air Force 1 that was a bald faced lie about the contents of the meeting.

    I get it. You want to defend Trump from all things even if it shows a massive flip flop on your part.

  927. mnw says:

    928 Sheeple

    RE: VA Guv poll

    Had not heard about that poll. It’s 725 LVs & seems respectable (to me) on its face, although 27% UND is too high.

  928. DW says:

    Reagan was like by GOP primary voters, but the party moderates, the elites were scared to death he had no chance against Carter because he was so revolutionary and might blow up the world with nukes. But in the end it was the voters who gave him the nomination. But the elites cheered when Bush labeled Reagan’s plan ‘voodoo economics’

  929. NYCmike says:

    “937 – this is why I was saying yesterday that if GOP lawmakers were smart, they would be friendly with Trump and then cultivate that relationship to steer him.”

    -DW,

    With all due respect, I have been saying this since he was elected.

    Simply send Trump the same legislation as Congress passed under Obama, which Obama vetoed, and Trump would have signed it.

    NOT VERY COMPLICATED!

    We would have had 9 months of figuring out a replacement bill for Obamacare by now…..maybe even McCain would have come up with something!

  930. Tina says:

    The “Russian Dossier” did not begin assembly until after it was commissioned by Hillary Clinton and the DNC (June 2016). Prior to that Fusion GPS was simply doing opposition research on behalf of a Trump opponent (stopped April 2016).

    This is true.

    Notice drats, just opposition research, began with a gop member, etc.

    It did not. Product was started in june of 2016.

  931. Tina says:

    The bushes hated reagan. They hoped to derail him in the primary, but 41 just could not speak to the people, was viewed as a moderate, and pro abort.

  932. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    943. “– The idea Reagan was hated by the party is revisionist history.”

    The reference by Mr. Vito was to “hated by party leaders” and not “party.” Anyone who experienced the bitter campaign between Reagan and Ford in 1976 knows what Vito means. At the time there were Republican party leaders who absolutely loathed Reagan. His supporters were looked upon as insurgents trying to overcome the traditional old Republican guard.

  933. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:37 pm
    937 – this is why I was saying yesterday that if GOP lawmakers were smart, they would be friendly with Trump and then cultivate that relationship to steer him.

    – My goodness. Until July or so, what did you think Republicans were doing? They did everything they could to massage him and it didn’t work because Trump is a deeply erratic man who changes his mind hourly and routinely creates self inflicted wounds.

  934. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:43 pm
    943. “– The idea Reagan was hated by the party is revisionist history.”
    The reference by Mr. Vito was to “hated by party leaders” and not “party.” Anyone who experienced the bitter campaign between Reagan and Ford in 1976 knows what Vito means. At the time there were Republican party leaders who absolutely loathed Reagan. His supporters were looked upon as insurgents trying to overcome the traditional old Republican guard.

    – And I was talking about 1980.

  935. Tina says:

    April of 2016, hillary hires fusion.

    June 2016 steele works on so called russian dossier.

    No r assiste in it.

  936. NYCmike says:

    “– The idea Reagan was hated by the party is revisionist history.”

    -This guy is delusional!

  937. Tina says:

    Sometime in October 2016 — that is, at the height of the presidential campaign — Christopher Steele, the foreign agent hired by Fusion GPS to compile the Trump dossier, approached the FBI with information he had gleaned during the project. According to a February report in the Washington Post, Steele “reached an agreement with the FBI a few weeks before the election for the bureau to pay him to continue his work.”

    It was an astonishing turn: the nation’s top federal law enforcement agency agreeing to fund an ongoing opposition research project being conducted by one of the candidates in the midst of a presidential election. “The idea that the FBI and associates of the Clinton campaign would pay Mr. Steele to investigate the Republican nominee for president in the run-up to the election raises further questions about the FBI’s independence from politics, as well as the Obama administration’s use of law enforcement and intelligence agencies for political ends,” wrote Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.

  938. mnw says:

    new VA Guv poll part II: Hampton Univ: Gillespie +8.

    They never polled it before, so you can’t track movement. It was a live interviewer phone poll.

    It has Trump disapprove at 56%.

    It’s a college poll, so who knows.

  939. PHIL says:

    I was at the KC convention in 1976 as a young volunteer for Reagan when he was going against Ford. Reagan absolutely was hated by the moderates. I talked to some of the Jersey delegates (all for Ford as were almost all the delegates from Nj and NY) and they loathed Reagan and his conservatism. I saw it first hand.

  940. Tina says:

    But aside from a lone operative (John Sears), Shirley wrote, “the other major GOP players — especially Easterners and moderates — thought Reagan was a certified yahoo.” By his death in 2004, “they would profess their love and devotion to Reagan and claim they were there from the beginning in 1974, which was a load of horse manure.” Even after his election in 1980, Shirley adds, “Reagan was never much loved” by his own party’s leaders. After GOP setbacks in the 1982 midterms, “a Republican National Committee functionary taped a piece of paper to her door announcing the sign-up for the 1984 Bush for President campaign.”

  941. Chicon says:

    944. I know, Bitter, just pulling your chain.

    I think I may get on the Birds’ bandwagon for this season. My Bears still suck and rooting for the Packers or Seahawks is like rooting for Hillary.

  942. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:46 pm
    “– The idea Reagan was hated by the party is revisionist history.”
    -This guy is delusional!

    – Just because Ted Cruz claims Reagan was hated by the party doesn’t make it so.

  943. Mr.Vito says:

    “The idea Reagan was some sort of marauder who stormed into the party and stole voters is just laughable spin…”

    The idea Reagan was a beloved party guy that bowed to the party line is equally laughable…

  944. Chicon says:

    Good point, Robbie, about the Junior email. You’re still wrong about everything else.

  945. NYCmike says:

    “– Just because Ted Cruz”….

    ….What delusional posters write when they still can’t present a list of liberal policies put forth by Trump.

  946. Chicon says:

    Robbie, you are completely off your rocker on the Reagan thing. Completely. He scared the crap out of your friends, the Country Club Republicans. He was viewed as a total rube.

  947. DW says:

    4 years ago Hampton U was among the several polls at the end that had McAwful up 6 or 7 points. Emerson College poll was right on the money at +2. It was +2.5 in the end.

    So this Hampton U poll should be taken seriously.

  948. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/election/5-potential-conservative-replacements-for-sen-jeff-flake-besides-kelli-ward/

    -Jeff Flake,

    THANK YOU for getting out of the way so that Republicans have a chance to keep this Senate seat!

  949. NYCmike says:

    “Shadegg opposed Obamacare early on, called for the investigation of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), and opposed a deadline for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. He also championed the Enumerated Powers Act, a measure that requires any bill passed by Congress to explicitly state where the Constitution gives Congress the power to make that law.”

    -Sounds good to me, but so do some of the others.

    Time for an old-fashioned debate of ideas!

  950. Tina says:

    Jebots, when will hillary speak about the russian collusion?

  951. NYCmike says:

    “I will give credit to NYC for calling Trump Guru a jackass.”

    -GFY, jackass.

  952. NYCmike says:

    Did Robbie say that only Manafort and Flynn will go to jail?

    How about Bannon?

  953. DW says:

    Don’t forget that Reagan was pressured by the party to accept GHW Bush for veep. The party elites thought it was the only hope to add credibility to the ticket because Reagan could not defeat Carter with a like-minded conservative on the ticket.

  954. Tina says:

    Jebot candidate needs to come out of the woods.

  955. NYCmike says:

    From that PJ MEDIA link about Arizona:

    “Each of them would likely perform better than Ward against the likely Democratic candidate, Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), the first bisexual member of Congress.”

    -Hey now, I may have to think about voting for her!

    https://sinema.house.gov/uploads/Sinema.jpg

    -This is one of the first attractive Democratic candidates I have seen…..

  956. NYCmike says:

    She could probably get Trump in trouble!

  957. NYCmike says:

    She seems quite capable….this will be an interesting campaign.

  958. Mr.Vito says:

    “I saw it first hand.”

    Seeing it first-hand doesn’t make it so… you revisionist, you.

  959. mnw says:

    DW & Sheeple

    RRH illuminati say “outlier!” in unison.

    Thing of it is, the same smart people (just ask them) said the LAST poll showing Gillespie +1 was an outlier also.

    A cynic might say that to RRH, any poll that disturbs their world view is an outlier. Aside from RDEL, they sure got a boatload of doom & gloom over there. I think there are more Trump hating “Republicans” at HHR than all other categories of posters combined.

  960. Mr.Vito says:

    “So this Hampton U poll should be taken seriously.”

    On the other hand, Hampton put out a poll that Trump was ahead 44-41 in Virginia during a five-day stretch that included the Comey ‘re-open’ announcement.

  961. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – All are welcome on the Eagles bandwagon. They are exceeding expectations but there is an unlucky history here. However, Wentz is a beast.

    The NFC is a mess. The Vikings are playing well but who knows. Seattle is usually in the hunt. I don’t believe that the Rams are for real but the Cardinals season just ended so they can fight for the division. The Panthers are up and down. The Packers are finished without Rodgers. Dallas has apparently figured out a way for Elliot to not serve his suspension until after he retires.

  962. DW says:

    Hampton U polls here in VA is generally considered the more left-leaning university than Christopher Newport. They are no GOP cheerleaders.

  963. DW says:

    982 – but as I said, Hampton U in the 2013 Gov race was right there at the end the same as almost all the others with McAwful up 6 or 7.

  964. Chicon says:

    Bitter, Wentz does appear to be the real deal. Fun to watch. I remain a fan of Alshon. Perhaps we can revisit this redemption thing when things are more boring – I think we may have a definition issue more than a substantive one….

  965. mnw says:

    Rep. Sinema is a plus-size beauty at best. (Beauty is in the eye, etc. I think she’s just FAT, period). Her weight seems to fluctuate wildly +/- 50 lbs.

    “Flake as fallen hero” meme doesn’t compute for me… he took himself out because he perceived he was losing. Why did not this paragon of conservative rectitude & principles stay in the race & fight for the ashes of his father and the temple of his gods, then?

  966. NYCmike says:

    “he took himself out because he perceived he was losing.”

    -Exactly.

  967. NYCmike says:

    “I remain a fan of Alshon.”

    -As long as my fantasy team does NOT have him, I am a fan of his!

  968. DW says:

    Robbie tried to counter earlier that Flake and others had tried valiantly to cultivate friendship with Trump but Trump just wasn’t going to allow it.

    I don’t buy that at all. Even Megyn Kelly went over to Trump tower before the election and patched things up with a ‘very gracious’ Trump (her words)–remarkable considering what passed between them with millions watching.

    My guess is they went to Trump too high-handedly expecting Trump to do their bidding and only put on a sham of an attempt to be gracious with him.

  969. Chicon says:

    998. Waaaay too injury prone for a fantasy team.

  970. Chicon says:

    988….

  971. Bitterlaw says:

    Alshon looks great. Until he doesn’t.

  972. Chicon says:

    DW – yep. I suspect they viewed themselves as the cool kids that ran the joint, and are really mad that Trump doesn’t care. Like Robbie.

  973. Chicon says:

    Alshon’s hands are enormous. He’s a serious weapon. Until he’s not.

  974. NYCmike says:

    “Alshon’s hands are enormous.”

    -He is the Anti-Trump!

  975. NYCmike says:

    Robbie to buy an Alshon jersey in 3…..2…..1….

  976. mnw says:

    Rep. Sinema (D-AZ), the putative DEM Senate nominee, once described herself as a “Prada socialist.”

  977. Tina says:

    We need a post from blobbie on the va race.

  978. Bitterlaw says:

    M

  979. Bitterlaw says:

    Yesssssssssss!

  980. Tina says:

    Sean Davis
    Sean Davis
    @seanmdav
    ·
    9h
    The Mueller probe is based entirely on two things: a dossier created by Dem collusion w/ Russia, and illegal leaks by James Comey.

  981. Tina says:

    Former Clinton Spox: Hillary ‘May Have Known’ About Dossier Funding [VIDEO] (link: https://trib.al/Hs4ZJ6W) trib.al/Hs4ZJ6W

    Uh, the brian dude said she did not know.

  982. Mr.Vito says:

    That guy’s attitude has changed quite a bit in a short amount of time.

  983. lisab says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 25, 2017 at 6:46 am
    Rumors and unnamed sources? Many at HHR blast Robbie for posts based on that type of “evidence.”. Consistency really does not matter here.
    ——————————————

    robbie posts items as facts

    tina and i posted our info clearly identified as a rumor

  984. Robbie says:

    This can’t be. I’ve been assured everything is going well and the House is not in danger.

    Kyle Kondik?
    @kkondik

    Wow D+15 on generic House ballot

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/25/fox-news-poll-voters-frustrated-with-tax-system-democrats-ahead-in-ballot-test.html

  985. lisab says:

    FOX NEWS POLL 1 hour ago
    Fox News Poll: Voters frustrated with tax system
    ———————————————-

    so robbie thinks that congress better pass trump’s tax plan

    good to know

  986. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 25, 2017 at 5:37 pm
    Robbie tried to counter earlier that Flake and others had tried valiantly to cultivate friendship with Trump but Trump just wasn’t going to allow it.
    I don’t buy that at all. Even Megyn Kelly went over to Trump tower before the election and patched things up with a ‘very gracious’ Trump (her words)–remarkable considering what passed between them with millions watching.
    My guess is they went to Trump too high-handedly expecting Trump to do their bidding and only put on a sham of an attempt to be gracious with him.

    – Umm, this is not what I said. I said nothing about Flake. I was talking about the Senate and House leadership and for the 18 months they tried to bend over backwards for Trump. They almost never criticized him. In fact, McConnell and Ryan still have refused to utter one bad word about him in public.

    None of that mattered though because Trump is an erratic and emotionally insecure person who feels obligated to litigate anything he perceives to be a slight whether it’s real or perceived. On top of that, it’s hard for the party to form a relationship when Trump doesn’t even know what he wants.

  987. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    October 25, 2017 at 5:07 pm
    Don’t forget that Reagan was pressured by the party to accept GHW Bush for veep. The party elites thought it was the only hope to add credibility to the ticket because Reagan could not defeat Carter with a like-minded conservative on the ticket.

    -LOL. This is ridiculous. No one forced Reagan to pick GHWB. He was in negotiations with Ford, but they broke down and he went with Bush instead.

  988. lisab says:

    None of that mattered though because Trump is an erratic and emotionally insecure person
    ——————————————

    that you don’t see the irony in you writing that is the funniest thing you have written today

  989. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    October 25, 2017 at 4:57 pm
    Robbie, you are completely off your rocker on the Reagan thing. Completely. He scared the crap out of your friends, the Country Club Republicans. He was viewed as a total rube.

    – You’re a nut who believed Napolitano’s conspiracy theory and now you’re claiming I’m a country club Republican because I don’t like your boy Donnie. Give me a break. You don’t know a thing about me. Piss off.

  990. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    October 25, 2017 at 7:33 pm
    None of that mattered though because Trump is an erratic and emotionally insecure person
    ——————————————
    that you don’t see the irony in you writing that is the funniest thing you have written today

    – What’s funny is that you claim not to be a loyal Trump supporter, yet you defend everything he does. You don’t see the fraudulence of that?

  991. Tina says:

    Tick tock

    Sean hanity.

  992. Robbie says:

    But Rasmussen.

    Josh Jordan?
    @NumbersMuncher 3m

    Fox News Poll: Democrats take a *fifteen point* lead on the generic ballot, hitting 50% for the first time in Fox News poll since pre-2010.

  993. Tina says:

    So brian felony.

    Which is it? She knew or did not know?

    You stated you wanted to go russia and help steele.

    Collude muh?

  994. lisab says:

    What’s funny is that you claim not to be a loyal Trump supporter, yet you defend everything he does.
    ————————————————

    you are confusing mocking you with defending trump

  995. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    October 25, 2017 at 7:46 pm
    What’s funny is that you claim not to be a loyal Trump supporter, yet you defend everything he does.
    ————————————————
    you are confusing mocking you with defending trump

    – No, I’m not. You were mocking me and I was mocking you.

  996. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue”
    Google “CNN,175,Sue”
    @NolteNC
    ·
    2h
    Replying to @instapundit
    Remember when the MSM screamed that Trump lied about Obama’s wiretaps, and the DNC/FBI finding the fake dossier, when he was 100% correct?

  997. NYCmike says:

    Robbie has me hoping MD or “CG” come back. Loony Tunes!

  998. Trump says:

    The cretin masturbating to fake polls. Some things never change.

  999. Robbie says:

    – Lack of empathy
    – Shallow emotions
    – Narcissism
    – Grandiose self image
    – Sexually deviant (grab them by the p@ssy)
    – Sensitive to criticism
    – Paranoid
    – Despotic/Authoritarian
    – Impulsive behavior
    – Compulsive lying

    All of these traits apply to Dear Leader Trump. All of these behaviors are characteristics of a sociopath.

  1000. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    October 25, 2017 at 7:57 pm
    Robbie has me hoping MD or “CG” come back. Loony Tunes!

    – Loony tune is claiming to be a real conservative and then supporting Trump with little or no reservation. That’s you.

  1001. Trump says:

    You just made them up, as*wipe Robbie

  1002. Robbie says:

    By the way, Wes and I were calling Trump a sociopath in October 2016.

  1003. Trump says:

    You are just projecting your own emotions, cretin Robbie.

  1004. Trump says:

    By the way, you have always been fu ck ed up wrong, cretin

  1005. Trump says:

    Trump – best president since Washington.

    Maybe Lincoln. Or Reagan.

  1006. Trump says:

    That’s you azs8wipe Robbie.

  1007. lisab says:

    1021 again robbie posting about himself 🙂

  1008. Trump says:

    Did mommy tke your lollipop, cretin?

    Did she hit you with her hairbrush?

  1009. Tina says:

    Have the jebots extracted her thighness from the woods yet?

  1010. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    October 25, 2017 at 8:06 pm
    1021 again robbie posting about himself ?

    – Maybe, but it also applies to Dear Leader Trump.

  1011. NYCmike says:

    Need that list, Robbie. There are plenty of things the executive branch has carried out in a very conservative fashion, so my conservative claims are justified in supporting our President

  1012. Trump says:

    No it does not, cretin Robbie.

    Only to you.

  1013. NYCmike says:

    Keep posting pieces from east coast sources while ignoring pieces from local newspapers across the fruited plain . I will enjoy your surprise next November

  1014. Mr.Vito says:

    Yes, if the electorate is indeed D+12 in 2018 then the generic ballot could be D+15.

    Also on the only question of blame in the poll, voters will blame the Republicans in Congress if Obamacare gets worse, and will give Trump credit over the Republicans in Congress if it improves.

  1015. Tina says:

    Joe Concha
    Joe Concha
    @JoeConchaTV
    ·
    12m
    BREAKING: DOJ authorizes FBI informant to speak with Congress. Gig order lifted. The popcorn just keeps on popping.

    Boom, i just popped my 2nd package, kirkland brand.

  1016. Trump says:

    As long as Trump is driving fu ck ed up losers like the cretin Robbie mad, he is doing great.

    I would worry if thiese as%wipes start supporting Trump.

  1017. Tina says:

    Bethany S. Mandel
    @bethanyshondark
    Perplexing how some NeverTrump folks opposed Trump b/c he wasn’t conservative & in response to election, they stopped being consv themselves
    12:25 PM · Oct 25, 2017

    Rinos gonna rino.

  1018. Trump says:

    The only thing driving these deadenders is the intense psychological trauma that Trump inflicted.

    More please.

  1019. Trump says:

    The fortune cookie after my dinner tonight reads, “Your calming spirit will help a friend in need.”

    See, I am a great influence here.

    You can’t argue with science.

  1020. lisab says:

    i agree with you there,

    trauma is a good word

    there has not been a sjw as good to torment on hhr since corey left

  1021. Phil says:

    DOJ lifts gag order on FBI informant?

    uh oh

  1022. Trump says:

    DOJ should release FBI records of the loony bird McCain.

  1023. Trump says:

    “Judge rejects bid by 18 states to revive Obamacare subsidies”

    That darn Trump, always sticking to the law.

  1024. Trump says:

    An Obama appointee, too.

    “U.S. District Judge Vince Chhabria in San Francisco said the federal government did not have to make the payments while litigation over the subsidies unfolds.

    Chhabria, appointed by former Democratic President Barack Obama, wrote that although the case appeared to be a close call, “it appears initially that the Trump administration has the stronger legal argument.”

  1025. jason says:

    Now when we get info that Hillary’s campaign funded the dossier, somehow everyone has decided it’s important to get to the bottom of Russia and collusion is reprehensible. Flip flop much?”

    Give Wobbie the Intellectual Dishonesty Award.

    The difference is Donald Trump Jr. didn’t fund and collude on anything, while its obvious Hillary did.

    Nobody said collusion was not reprehensible. What we said is there is zero evidence Trump was involved in any collusion.

    Now GFY.

  1026. Trump says:

    Arguing with the cretin?

    Just mock and insult him, that’s all he is good for.

  1027. Trump says:

    “intellectual Dishonesty”?

    That’s just a genteel way of saying that the cretin Robbie is a fuc ked up congenital lying cra* weasel, isnt it?

  1028. jason says:

    I am sure Wobbie and the MSM will support this idea.

    “Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is calling on the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate the Uranium One deal that gave a Russian-owned company partial control of U.S. atomic energy resources in 2010.

    “Whoever in DOJ is capable [with] authority to appoint a special counsel [should] do so to investigate Uranium One ‘whoever’ means if [you] aren’t recused,” Grassley tweeted Tuesday night.”

  1029. Trump says:

    Sessions cannot hide behind his cowardly “recusal”.

    This was in 2010, and there was no Trump campaign in 2010.

  1030. lisab says:

    Trump,

    be fair

    jason has mocked wobbie a fair amount

  1031. Mikael Korleone says:

    Soccer Moron eats fortune cookies?

    This is not Western Civilization food, I am deeply disappointed.

  1032. Trump says:

    I know he has, I just pointed out that there is no point in arguing with the cretin.

    I did not see the mocking and insulting in his post, and wanted to avoid him slipping further.

  1033. lisab says:

    honestly if we had to mock every wobbie post we would not have time for anything else

  1034. Trump says:

    don’t underestimate yourself, you can do it.

  1035. Trump says:

    you can insult the cretin and chew gum at the same time

  1036. Chicon says:

    Lisab – Robbie is gonna go coo coo if it turns out JEB! is the Republican.

  1037. Bitterlaw says:

    By the way, you have always been fu ck ed up wrong, cretin

    The irony meter just exploded. In the history of HHR, nobody has ever been as wrong as Trump Guru’s prediction that Trump would lose in a landslide AND the Democrats would take the House and Senate in 2016. MD came close with his prediction of an 8 to 11% win for Hillary but Trump Guru tripled down and was wrong on the Presidency, House and Senate.

  1038. Trump says:

    Show it, as*wipe Bitter

  1039. Bitterlaw says:

    We all know you said it. Own it.

  1040. jason says:

    My fortune cookie said “an egg roll can fill you stomach, but a llama will fill your life”

  1041. Trump says:

    Show it, idiot

  1042. Bitterlaw says:

    I have posted it repeatedly. You usually ignore the post. Why so concerned now?

  1043. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1016. “you are confusing mocking you with defending trump.”

    Good one lisab. You earned bonus points on that one. lol

  1044. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I believe there is also a saying that “a man should love a llama but he never love his llama.” I think it depends on 2 different words for “love” but I do not speak Quchua.

  1045. Trump says:

    ok, i will ignore your demented rantings, as usual, idiot.

  1046. Mr.Vito says:

    I see Flake had a -19 approval in 2013.

    So, Flake had problems with his constituents well before Trump arrived on the scene.

  1047. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    102. “The fortune cookie after my dinner tonight reads, “Your calming spirit will help a friend in need.” See, I am a great influence here. You can’t argue with science.”

    You do know that not only has Putin interfered in U.S. elections; he has infiltrated the fortune cookie trade, and is is using fortune cookie messages to manipulate the world.

  1048. Tina says:

    No, flakey was beaten up by trump. I read it here.

  1049. Mr.Vito says:

    Interesting… I see Flake actually won his seat in Arizona by a smaller percentage than Trump won.

  1050. Tina says:

    Hillary Clinton says she wanted her supporters to give Pres. Trump a chance, didn’t want them “immediately going into a defensive crouch.”

    I think she is mixing prescriptions with alcohol.

  1051. Chicon says:

    Vito, stop with the facts. Please, Robbie is weaving a yarn…..

  1052. Bitterlaw says:

    ok, i will ignore your demented rantings, as usual, idiot.

    You won’t ignore my posts. You never do. You won’t respond with any substance but you will respond.

  1053. Trump says:

    You got it, idiot.

    I am surprised.

  1054. jason says:

    Hannity is salivating like Pavlov’s dogs.

  1055. Trump says:

    you havent had a substantive post since 2006, but that’s for another day.

  1056. Chicon says:

    1081 – does the mouth breather have anything new to add?

  1057. Mr.Vito says:

    Okay, I see the problem.

    After a decade in the House Flake had a lifetime ACU of 95.00.

    The year after he moved to the Senate, it was 71… he dropped to -19 approval.

    He made nice in 2014 with a score 92.

    Then he posted 79 in both 2015 and 2016… and his approval dropped again. In 2016 it was almost 10 points lower than McCain’s 88.

    So, after more than a decade in the House with a 95 rating, he posted below 80 three out of four years.

  1058. Trump says:

    Did I post this earlier?

    “Trump purges enemies and reshapes party in his image”

    Who will be the next to crumble?

  1059. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    960. “PHIL says: “I was at the KC convention in 1976 as a young volunteer for Reagan when he was going against Ford. Reagan absolutely was hated by the moderates. I talked to some of the Jersey delegates (all for Ford as were almost all the delegates from Nj and NY) and they loathed Reagan and his conservatism. I saw it first hand.”

    I also remember it well. I was a young Ford worker at the time, and since Utah went totally for Reagan, did not get to go to the 1976 convention. After the election, Reagan came to Utah, and I had a chance to have a short discussion with him. Found him an incredible person, and became a supporter. Before then was extremely wary.

    The division between Reagan and Ford people was bitter, but in the general election the Reagan people rallied behind Ford — and likewise the Ford people after losing accepted that Reagan was the future in 1980.

  1060. NYCmike says:

    Just took Breitbarts book, Righteous Indignation, off the shelf, and started leafing thru it. Wow, time flies!! I also think Robbie would not have read this book.

    On page 4, he writes “The left does not win its battles in debate. It doesn’t have to. In the 21st century, media is everything. The left wins because it controls the narrative. The narrative is controlled by the media. The left IS the media. Narrative is everything.”

    Breitbart, may be Rest In Peace, understood.

    President Trump understands.

    Robbie, deal with it. It is not a Bush-bot world anymore!

  1061. jason says:

    see Flake actually won his seat in Arizona by a smaller percentage than Trump won.:”

    Different elections, different years. McCain outpolled Trump by big numbers in the 2016 election.

    The GOP senators that opposed or kept their distance from Trump actually outperformed him in just about every state in 2016, including Portman who Soccer Moron said would get fewer votes than Trump. Even Mark Kirk got more votes than Trump in IL.

    There was one exception, Heck got fewer votes then Trump in Nevada.

  1062. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Trump Guru is worried that we know he predicted a Hillary win and a Dem takeover of Congress in 2016.

    Maybe he could hide out in Amos Stoltzfuss’ barn for a while.

  1063. jason says:

    Democrats say uranium investigation is “partisan politics”

    You have to admire the chutzpah.

  1064. Trump says:

    A non-drooling attorney general would do something about it.

  1065. jason says:

    Maybe he could hide out in Amos Stoltzfuss’ barn for a while.”

    I hid out there a couple times when my wife was on the warpath.

    It’s pretty comfy. Amos has 8 daughters who took turns bringing me scrapple sandwiches and jugs of cider.

  1066. Mr.Vito says:

    “Different elections, different years. McCain outpolled Trump by big numbers in the 2016 election.”

    So? The point was Flake was never that popular to begin with… Romney won by 9.

  1067. Chicon says:

    1090 – you do have to admire the nuts on them. And Robbie likes to say Trump has Antisocial tendencies…..

  1068. Hugh says:

    My feeling is that when the time is right Sessions will pounce. He must be seething at his the dem senators right now. Revenge is a dish best served cold

  1069. lisab says:

    i think i may be being stalked!

    so i just got back from the gym, and as i mentioned a few weeks back this balding middle aged guy was trying to engage me in coversation and i just wouldn’t talk to him or acknowledge him in any way. i have an mp3 player so i just tune out as i use the exercise bike.

    so a few times, i spin 90 minutes every day, he has suddenly been using a stair stepper behind me and he literally, and i mean this in a very obscene way, starts to groan loudly! but whatevs, i have my mp3 player and ignore him.

    so tonight i am there and out of nine (empty) bikes he sits next to me. i am well into 45 minutes by this point so i don’t want to stop and move. he starts groaning really loudly … i can hear him over my music.

    so my hour is finishing, (he can see my timer winding down), so about a minute before my time is up he stops and starts to get up. however, i do 90 minutes — the bike only has an hour timer — so i immediately reset it for 30 more minutes. he leaves for say 5 minutes AND THEN COMES BACK! and starts biking again.

    i look around and literally we are the only two people there.

    that is weird right? and the other night i am leaving out the door and suddenly baldy is coming through the door right behind me … again i did not acknowledge him in any way and just went back inside until he left.

    i hate the weird ones.

  1070. lisab says:

    oh cnn spent the entire night talking about how trump hired a law firm that asked assange for hillary’s missing emails

    not a word about hillary paying for the dossier

    apparently trump hiring a law firm to ask assange for emails hillary was ordered to turn over

    is treason

    (the gym plays cnn)

  1071. Mr.Vito says:

    “that asked assange for hillary’s missing emails…”

    Why? I thought they were full of conversations about grandkids or something…

  1072. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Republican opposition research initially paid for the dossier. Then hillary’s campaign paid for the rest. Neither used it.

    I hope lisab teaches Kindergarten or something pointless. I would hate to think she’s in any position of real influence given how poor her grasp of detail is.

    **************************

    I’m sure voters will love the tax reform bill that will at most give most families a few hundred dollars.

    They can use that to pay for the a month of increased health insurance premiums that Trump caused.

  1073. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/357214-poll-dems-lead-by-15-points-in-generic-congressional-ballot

    +15 by Fox of all people. A little over a year and this nightmare will end. Trump will be impeached with 6 months of Dems taking over the house investigative committees.

  1074. lisab says:

    what was in the emails is not important

    assange works for russia

    and trump’s lawyers asked assange for help.

    i think that was it. the have the cc on but i was mostly listening to music.

  1075. Mr.Vito says:

    Hillary and the DNC said they had nothing to do with it for a year. Since it was no big deal, that was extraordinarily stupid.

  1076. lisab says:

    Trump will be impeached with 6 months of Dems taking over the house investigative committees.
    ————————————–

    dems would have to win 12-14 senate seats

    depending on mccain et al.

  1077. Tina says:

    Tom Fitton
    Tom Fitton
    @TomFitton
    ·
    43m
    If Mueller investigation fair, Clinton, her campaign, and DNC will now be subject to federal criminal investigation over Russia “collusion.”

    Patience grasshopper.

  1078. Cash Cow TM says:

    “admire the nuts”

    untied hamster
    I ram he student
    i.e. student harm
    dream hit tunes
    them dire tunas
    stun the mad ire
    their mad stun
    dam their nuts
    darn emus tithe
    a shuttered mine
    i.e. damn shutter

  1079. lisab says:

    Hillary and the DNC said they had nothing to do with it for a year. Since it was no big deal, that was extraordinarily stupid.
    ——————————————-

    i am pretty sure bill clinton is horrified at hillary’s amateurish ways

    he would have been smart enough to stay clear

  1080. Mr.Vito says:

    their mad stun
    dam their nuts

    These are missing an ‘e’

  1081. lisab says:

    Clinton, her campaign, and DNC will now be subject to federal criminal investigation over Russia “collusion.”
    ————————-

    hillary is untouchable, at least for now

  1082. Mr.Vito says:

    “i am pretty sure bill clinton is horrified at hillary’s amateurish ways”

    Hillary always seemed more like the body-burier to me.

  1083. Mr.Vito says:

    a shuttered mine

    I like this one best.

  1084. jason says:

    he would have been smart enough to stay clear”

    He wasn’t smart enough to keep from being impeached and disbarred.

    This is not to say he wasn’t a much better campaigner than Hillary Clinton.

  1085. Mr.Vito says:

    No, wait… that one has an extra ‘e’ 🙁

  1086. Cash Cow TM says:

    lisab,

    I feel like I need to warn you about something.

    My sources tel me some folks in Harpers Ferry have hired a hit man to go to MA to find some people there who have been disparaging HF’s efforts to get their bell back.

    He should be easy to spot.
    He is a balding middle aged guy….who groans a lot.

  1087. Tina says:

    The security guard from mandalay hotel frove 700miles to mexico, despite a wound.

  1088. Bitterlaw says:

    you do have to admire the nuts on them.

    Chicon grabs the gayest post of the day with both hands.

  1089. Tina says:

    We love both clintons.

    We are partial more to hillary.

    Jebots.

  1090. jason says:

    Republican opposition research initially paid for the dossier.”

    This is a lie. Rs paid for standard opponent research not any “dossier”.

    The dossier was paid for by the Democrats.

  1091. Phil says:

    1085

    I remember 1976 like it was yesterday. Reagan rallied to win all 100 delegates from Texas. It was hand to hand combat in state after state. It went all the way to the convention, Ford winning barely. A change of 30 votes and Reagan would have prevailed. Very exciting. Reagan just couldn’t crack the moderate delegations out of Jersey, Pennsylvania, and NY. The Ford delegates from the northeast looked down on us like we were a bunch of kooks.

  1092. Cash Cow TM says:

    lisab,

    My sources say he may try to disable your brakes on the exercise bike.
    _________________
    You should strike up a conversation and ask him what he knows about stolen bells from the Civil War era…

    Then hit him with “I know who you are and what you are doing here. My friend the Cow told me all about you.”

  1093. Tina says:

    Can somebody explain why drat mccabe of the fbi let campos go out of country immediatley after the massacre?

  1094. lisab says:

    Hillary always seemed more like the body-burier to me.
    ——————————–

    i think she is the scarier one — whoever tattled on her better disappear for a while

    but she has a history of getting caught, starting way back during watergate

    bill always seemed to have enough charisma to avoid the big penalties … considering he is accused of rape and statutory rape

  1095. Tina says:

    Lisab, conceal carry or mace.

    Your choice.

  1096. lisab says:

    i have pepperspray

  1097. jason says:

    lisab, I think you are right to be concerned if this is happening repeatedly. Definitely do not put yourself in a position where you are alone with him in the parking lot or other areas with nobody else around.

  1098. Tina says:

    I have all 3.

  1099. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab spins on a bike 90 minutes a day? No wonder she is flat. She rode them off.

    Maybe her stalker likes stick figures. She obviously needs to stop exercising and drink soda all day.

  1100. Cash Cow TM says:

    “their mad stun
    dam their nuts

    These are missing an ‘e’”

    RATS!

    I could say “yeah I knew that…I was just testing to see if anyone actually reads what I post in those letter scrambles.”

    But in reality….I messed up.
    You get points for discovering it! 🙂
    ******************************************
    Cow has been up very late for several nights doing research for Walt and writing his draft position paper on reforming the WV budget process…so I claim tiredness.

  1101. jason says:

    bill always seemed to have enough charisma to avoid the big penalties … considering he is accused of rape and statutory rape”

    He got lucky. His inner circle held, and Monica did not turn on him. People went to jail to protect him. Maybe even committed suicide.

    Still the risks he took were not smart, he could have lost the Presidency and gone to jail with just small changes in the circumstances.

  1102. Bitterlaw says:

    How about looking at the guy and saying “Back the F off or I will crush your throat, mf-er! ”

    It is unlikely that he would expect that.

  1103. Mr.Vito says:

    Wear a shirt that says ‘Trump’ on the front and ‘Sucks’ on the back. Cover the back with a light jacket. Take the jacket off if he doesn’t go away.

  1104. Cash Cow TM says:

    “pepperspray”

    prays pepper?
    prepper pays?
    perp prepays?

  1105. lisab says:

    spins on a bike 90 minutes a day?
    ————————————-

    it is my only aerobic activity.

    you should try it. exercize helps your mood.

  1106. Charles says:

    “+15 by Fox of all people. A little over a year and this nightmare will end. Trump will be impeached with 6 months of Dems taking over the house investigative committees.”

    Good, I’ll take President Pence any day of the week. Do it.

  1107. Mr.Vito says:

    “Chicon grabs the gayest post of the day with both hands.”

    That’s the only way to do it right.

  1108. lisab says:

    I think you are right to be concerned if this is happening repeatedly.
    —————————-

    he has biked next to me three times in the last month … mind you all the other bikes were empty — and stairstepped behind me maybe half a dozen times.

    once i heard him complain, i think about me but i cannot be sure because it was betweeen songs, that ” … only listens to music, i am going to get a complex or something”.

    maybe it wasn’t about me. but i will not even look at him when he sits next to me, not even a little. i literally will watch cnn INTENTLY … that is how much i avoid eye contact. 🙂

    it is the groaning that weirds me out honestly.

  1109. Cash Cow TM says:

    Trump sucks

    sucks Trump?
    stuck rumps?
    truck sumps?
    struck umps?
    strum pucks?

  1110. Bitterlaw says:

    I used to ride an exercise bike. It never made me feel anything but exhausted. My blood sugar always plummeted. Drinking 3 sodas after a workout seemed counterproductive.

  1111. lisab says:

    still i think i will start going directly after school instead of at night for a while

  1112. Mr.Vito says:

    A middle-aged bald guy groans while exercising… film at 11.

    Maybe you inspire him and he has trouble keeping pace…

  1113. Bitterlaw says:

    Move to another bike. If he follows you and moves again, flip out on him. Seriously.

  1114. lisab says:

    How about looking at the guy and saying “Back the F off or I will crush your throat, mf-er! ”
    —————————————–

    the thing is, somewhere this guy is saying,

    “i go to the gym and try to approach this girl, but she won’t even look at me. so i keep sitting next to her and moan really loadly, but so far she still won’t even say hi”

  1115. Mr.Vito says:

    “…flip out on him. Seriously.”

    Don’t flip out if you are alone. Just say you would like your space please… and have the mace ready.

  1116. lisab says:

    Maybe you inspire him and he has trouble keeping pace…
    ———————————

    oh that is true. i have been biking for years. if you have ever seen a spinning class you know we are are like the tour de france, but competitive …

    seriously the first time he sat next to me he tried to go at my level and lasted about 5 minutes 🙂

    i thought it was funny … of course it is not so funny anymore

  1117. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe you should talk to him. Ask him whether Hap Arnold should have been charged with a war crime for fire bombing Tokyo. He will disappear in 5 minutes.

  1118. lisab says:

    Move to another bike. If he follows you and moves again, flip out on him. Seriously.
    Don’t flip out if you are alone. Just say you would like your space please… and have the mace ready.
    ————————————————

    thanks for the support …

    it just bugs me that I have to change bikes or stop and talk to him during my workout.

    i considered asking for space tonight when he sat down, but then i figured he would just say no and then i would have to move and he might follow me.

    i think i will just have to change times

  1119. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Republicans will not rally to defend Trump if and when the shoe drops.

    Especially after he costs them the house and possibly the senate.

    They will want President Pence in as soon as possible and save the damage done in 2020.

    Trump is a dead man walking.

  1120. Mr.Vito says:

    Hopefully he just has aspergers or social/body issues and likes to go when no one is there, but doesn’t like to feel alone/clueless, and doesn’t understand your need for space.

  1121. lisab says:

    Maybe you should talk to him.
    ————————————-

    you have known me long enough to know that i just HAAAAAATE having to actually talk to him.

    i am pretty sure at this point that he is bothering me on purpose so that i will talk to him

    like when children act up just for attention

  1122. Mr.Vito says:

    Also, ask him if he frequents a blog with the handle TrumpIsPeteWilson.

  1123. jason says:

    My cholesterol is too high for exercise.

  1124. lisab says:

    Hopefully he just has aspergers or social/body issues
    —————————

    pretty sure not asperger’s. he often will talk to guys — the bike’s are in front of tvs and they talk about sports if a game is on.

    if he is not just creepy

    i think i just pissed him off because i would not even say hi to him or even make eye contact

    so now he is just bothering me

  1125. Mr.Vito says:

    Oh, I thought he was only there when you are alone.

  1126. jason says:

    “Trump is a dead man walking”

    Really, troll?

    Pray tell us what you know that the other 10 million other people who wrote his political obituary didn’t
    know?

  1127. lisab says:

    My cholesterol is too high for exercise.
    —————————————-

    biking is great … it doesn’t hurt your knees and you can just watch tv or listen to music.

    the only problem is you really cannot get your heart rate too high. it takes me 75 minutes to get my bpm above 130. you build up stamina really quickly and the level that was difficult when you started will feel like nothing

    it is because unlike running where it can take years to build up to ten miles, you can bike ten miles probably your first time out

  1128. Chicon says:

    Trumpispetewilson sounds a lot like Robbie…..

  1129. lisab says:

    Oh, I thought he was only there when you are alone.
    ——————————————-

    no, tonight i was there from 8 pm to 9:45 or so, and no one was there after 8:30 or so.

    usually there are SOME people around. just not tonight.

    that is why i was especially creeped out …

    he sits down next to me and when i look around, we are the only two there and he starts his moaning thing

  1130. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1117. “The Ford delegates from the northeast looked down on us like we were a bunch of kooks.”

    And you were! LOL

    During the general election, the Reagan and Ford campaigns merged in Utah. I used to sit next to the Utah Reagan delegate who ripped the telephone out in the dispute with Rockefeller and the New York delegation at the convention. One of his best friend’s was the father of my college roommate, so we hit it off. He told me a lot of great stories from the convention, including about the Texas delegation. You guys were rambunctious.

  1131. jason says:

    People with Asperger’s lack empathy and are not known for stalking, they tend not be interested in the activities of others.

    This guy seems to be a genuine creep, and it could be a mistake to think he is just a harmless nuisance. A harmless nuisance would more likely just be trying to lure lisab into conversation, rather than following her around.

    Where is our resident psychologist, Corey, to render a professional opinion.

  1132. lisab says:

    i swear it could be a snl sketch

    he sounds like he is having intimate relations with someone!

    the first time all i could think about was this scene from what about bob

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvVKFCP5cCA

    but it got annoying really quickly

  1133. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1154.” Trumpispetewilson sounds a lot like Robbie…..”

    Think it is Obamacon. Same bombastic nonsense.

    Robbie trys to be more subtle, claiming he is a Republican who has been scorned.

  1134. lisab says:

    This guy seems to be a genuine creep
    ————————————-
    yeah … i think i will change times

    if he changes times too i will talk to the management

  1135. jason says:

    My cholesterol is too high for exercise.
    —————————————-

    biking is great … it doesn’t hurt your knees and you can just watch tv or listen to music.”

    I can watch TV and listen to music just sitting on the couch, and it doesn’t hurt my knees.

  1136. lisab says:

    Think it is Obamacon. Same bombastic nonsense.
    ————————————–

    i think cory

    he did not know that the dems need to own the senate to actually get rid of trump

    that smells canadian to me

  1137. Mr.Vito says:

    “People with Asperger’s lack empathy…”

    That is a huge myth. They have more trouble reading a person’s emotion, or have too much empathy to where they prefer to avoid those feelings altogether.

  1138. Mr.Vito says:

    Also, it is a spectrum and can range over any or all of those things.

  1139. lisab says:

    my experience is that people with asperger’s actually want friends … and would love to have friends

    but don’t understand exactly why they don’t have them

    and it is easier for them to just be alone than deal with rejection

  1140. Mr.Vito says:

    1165 Exactly, lisab. The emotional connection is more confusing and draining to maintain than to just go without.

  1141. lisab says:

    however, i have not dealt with much asperger’s professionally

    although … one child in my district was actually locked in a supply closet day after day for weeks

    because he had asperger’s and would act up in class. so the teacher moved his desk inside the supply closet and closed the door

    a supply closet filled with glue and staples and who knows what else

    no … the teacher was not fired

  1142. lisab says:

    sorry, he was not locked in the closet

    the door was just closed, i don’t think she locked it

  1143. lisab says:

    this boy knew every licorice factory in the world

    and

    then took to studying scotland and kilts

    he wanted to wear his kilt to school. we had to explain to him why that was a bad idea

    because he did not know why it would be a bad idea to wear a skirt to school. he really did not know,

    and i am not exactly sure he believed us

    but at least we convinced him to not wear it

  1144. Mr.Vito says:

    That sounds bad, but is not necessarily… being alone to release tension is sometimes necessary. If the child was always alone, I have my doubts.

  1145. Mr.Vito says:

    “but at least we convinced him to not wear it”

    because he was already socially awkward? or because he wasn’t going to wear shorts underneath?

  1146. lisab says:

    just for the record …

    if i was the school board, i would have fired the teacher on the spot

    to me that is reckless endangerment of a child

    but i am not sure she was even reprimanded officially

  1147. lisab says:

    because he was already socially awkward? or because he wasn’t going to wear shorts underneath?
    —————————————–

    he was socially unaware that the other children would have bullied him for wearing a skirt

    that just did not make any sense to him

  1148. jason says:

    PeteWilson is not Wobbie, just a dumb troll from the bottom of the troll gene pool.

    Wobbie has to be the pettiest and most small minded person on this blog, despite the competition.

    Wobbie backed a candidate that had a zero chance of winning the nomination and a zero chance of winning the GE, and who was solely responsible for the most spectacular debacle by a “front runner” in US Primary history.

    Wobbie is still living the fantasy where Jeb was a viable candidate. So his blind hatred of Trump has nothing to do with anything Trump does or says, its still all about Jeb.

  1149. Mr.Vito says:

    “to me that is reckless endangerment of a child”

    I take it he was unsupervised in there for long periods, then.

  1150. lisab says:

    being alone to release tension is sometimes necessary.
    ——————————————–

    oh we have quiet places … even in my room i have a “quiet corner”. but we also had a quiet room in our school — this is when i lived in illinois.

    he was put in the closet because he was “acting up”, the one instance i can remember was that when the teacher asked him what his favorite food was he said, “hagis” (sp?)

    i gues he explained that it was sheep intestines and sheep guts etc. and the other students reacted

    sooooooooooo … she started putting him in the supply closet for the entire day!

    we only found out because eventually he told his mother — most children would have told their mother the first day — and she came to school and was rather upset

    and being at the time a part-time special ed helper, we had no idea what she was talking about

    obviously we would never put a child in a closet

    except we did

    his parents put him in a private school shortly thereafter

  1151. jason says:

    There is Asperger’s in my family so I am very familiar with it.

    Lack of empathy (as far as seeing things from another person’s perspective) is indeed one of the characteristics of the syndrome.

    http://www.kennethrobersonphd.com/aspergers-syndrome-problem-empathy/

  1152. Mr.Vito says:

    There is also Asperger’s in my family, and I am also very familiar with it. The ‘lack’ of empathy is a myth… and your article details explicitly the points I was making very briefly. There are many more articles that detail it even more fully.

    Your article includes this line “This is what makes those with Asperger’s different and where the idea that they lack empathy comes from.”

  1153. jason says:

    Kory the Kanadian Kommie must have killed himself the night Hillary won.

    He enjoyed himself for months here while we fought among ourselves about Trump.

    Her loss was probably just too much for him.

    But he is in a better place, the proletariat heaven Marxists go to when they die.

  1154. lisab says:

    my understanding is — and again my experience is not usually with asperger’s because they usually are good students so they don’t usually get IEPs

    that the lack empathy in the sense that they really don’t understand some things we take for granted … like one young man who did not like to bathe and also walked around his dorm half naked. he just did not get why that would be an issue, he could not naturally grasp that

    but

    otoh when a young woman in his class was literally crying because she was breaking up with her boyfriend via text, he was the one who actually tried to comfort her

    so i don’t think they are like sociopaths that just have no empathy

    it is just they don’t necessarily understand other people’s emotions, but when they do they can be quite caring

  1155. Mr.Vito says:

    also from your article:

    “Swiss researchers Henry and Kamila Markram argue that the fundamental problem in Asperger’s is a hypersensitivity to experience. Everything is overwhelming. Lights, sounds, smells, tastes, and emotional experiences are intensified. The person easily feels overpowered, anxious and fearful.

    The Markrams believe that people with Asperger’s Syndrome, rather than not feeling enough, feel too much. What looks like coldness and aloofness to the outside world is actually a response to being overwhelmed by emotion. It is an excess of empathy, not a lack of it, that plagues those with Asperger’s.”

  1156. jason says:

    I guess it depends on how empathy is defined. People with Asperger’s, and its very clear with my relatives, definitely lack empathy as far as being able to “put themselves in someone else’s shoes”.

    It’s not a myth. It’s very real. Unfortunately.

  1157. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Lol everybody that disagrees with you is the absolute worst thing poasible to you idiots.

    At least people with Asperger’s have a valid medical condition.

    Willful ignorance is far sadder. It was +14 dem in 2008 and +10 in 2006. A tsunami is coming. Best deal with the reality now.

  1158. lisab says:

    temple grandin (sp?) has also said that she just did not understand why people would get upset with her for not washing her teeth for example

    but that she did not want to upset them. she just did not understand why they would be upset over that.

  1159. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m just going by your article now…

  1160. jason says:

    Maybe this explains it better:

    “People with Asperger’s syndrome do not possess “Theory of Mind” abilities, which means they aren’t able to recognize and understand the thoughts, beliefs, desires and intentions of other people in order to make sense of their behavior. The result is a person who is “mindblind,” which means blindness to another person’s needs, feelings and desires. This adversely affects the important quality of empathy, which is vital to a successful and fulfilling relationship. People involved in relationships with a mindblind partner report feeling invalidated, unsupported, unheard, unknown and uncared for. They suffer from severe, ongoing emotional deprivation that results in depression, loneliness, anger, low self-esteem, emotional breakdown, PTSD and physical illness.

    Men with Asperger’s Syndrome are not able to recognize their own lack of empathy or their other deficits.”

  1161. Mr.Vito says:

    “it is just they don’t necessarily understand other people’s emotions, but when they do they can be quite caring”

    Yes.

  1162. lisab says:

    definitely lack empathy as far as being able to “put themselves in someone else’s shoes”.
    ———————————————-

    yeah, i think that you have to explain things to them.

    unlike a sociopath who just does not care

    someone with asperger’s genuinely does not understand why you might be upset, but if they knew, they would try to not upset you, and are capable of being very kind

  1163. jason says:

    Willful ignorance is far sadder. It was +14 dem in 2008 and +10 in 2006. A tsunami is coming. Best deal with the reality now.”

    Did you believe Hillary had a 99% chance of winning?

  1164. jason says:

    How did that “reality” work out for you, troll?

  1165. lisab says:

    coincidentally, another young man who i have worked with

    just cannot form friendships. other college students don’t like him. girlfriend? we are far from that.

    but got his first job/internship this week!

  1166. Mr.Vito says:

    “yeah, i think that you have to explain things to them.

    unlike a sociopath who just does not care”

    Right, they are perfectly able to feel what it is like to be in certain shoes, but have trouble figuring out what pair you are wearing and why.

  1167. lisab says:

    Did you believe Hillary had a 99% chance of winning?
    ——————————————-
    100% more likely

    i voted for jill stein but if anyone could get me to vote republican it is robbie et al.

    the commercials write themselves … “if the dems win they will throw the usa into a year long impeachment trial with riots every other day …

    AND

    if they succeed they will raise your taxes!”

    is this fight rigging?!
    are they not even trying anymore?
    george bush can blow up iraq because the dems are just morons.

  1168. lisab says:

    Right, they are perfectly able to feel what it is like to be in certain shoes, but have trouble figuring out what pair you are wearing and why.
    ———————————————–

    oooooo … that is an excellent explanation. i am going to steal that

    that will be useful for me someday

    just fyi 🙂

  1169. lisab says:

    their contempt for the working and middle-class as deplorables is not even hidden anymore

    they now openly say they want to take working people’s money and give everyone a universal income

    and

    they don’t even care if the person getting your money is a citizen!!!!!

    at least they used to pretend

  1170. Mr.Vito says:

    “i am going to steal that”

    okay, no problem. glad i could help.

  1171. lisab says:

    thanks!

  1172. jason says:

    A tsunami is coming!

    “The HuffPost presidential forecast model gives Democrat Hillary Clinton a 98.2 percent chance of winning the presidency. Republican Donald Trump has essentially no path to an Electoral College victory.”

    “Florida, Nevada and North Carolina have leaned toward Clinton in the polling averages. The forecast in recent weeks, along with the strength of early voting numbers, makes it seem very likely that these will stay with her. All three states are more than 80-percent likely to swing Democratic”

    “The HuffPost model still gives Bayh a sizable lead ? and an 88 percent chance of winning.”

    “The Wisconsin race features a rematch between Sen. Ron Johnson (R) and former Sen. Russ Feingold (D). Johnson beat Feingold in the Republican wave of the 2010 midterm elections, but Feingold is likely to retake the seat. His lead has shrunk in recent weeks, but the Democrat is still leading by more than 4 points, giving Feingold a 98 percent chance of winning.”

    Pennsylvania Democratic challenger Katie McGinty has steadily increased her polling lead on incumbent Sen. Pat Toomey . She’s 3 points or 4 points ahead of Toomey, and has a 97 percent chance of winning, according to HuffPost’s model. There are two other candidates in the race, though, and that could shift the race in one direction or the other. But this one is called for McGinty”

  1173. jason says:

    “But this one is called for McGinty”

    I love it…

  1174. lisab says:

    or … on healthcare

    recently i had to get a special mammogram because something showed up on my first mammogram. i have really dense breast tissue so the first regular mammogram did not cut it.

    $200!

    hello! i thought we had obamacare now so i would be covered.

    nope. my teachers’ health insurance does not cover two mammograms a year.

    when i was unemployed, after i left illinois but before i moved to ny, everything was free, and i mean i had endoscopic surgery and it was free

    now that i actually pay for insurance … i have to pay $200 for a mammogram my doctor ordered!

  1175. lisab says:

    come to think of it, i had a freakin mri scan done when i was unemployed

    zero dollars!

    (actually i think i had a $20 co-pay)

    now $200 for a mammogram — WHEN I PAY FOR INSURANCE!!!

  1176. jason says:

    “Will Hillary Clinton Be a One-Term President?

    By Robel Daniel?October 29, 2016

    It sure looks like Hillary Clinton will become our next president. Our statistical model puts Secretary Clinton at a 99% chance of winning on November 8th. Other election forecasts project similar results; at the time of writing, the Princeton Election Consortium puts her chances at 99%, The Huffington Post at 98%, and The New York Times’ The Upshot at 91%. FiveThirtyEight is more bullish on Trump, with their polls-only model predicting an 81% chance of a Clinton victory. No matter what your preferred model is, all of them show Clinton with an overwhelming chance of winning the presidency.”

  1177. lisab says:

    people like petewilson

    seem to be under the impression that trump scored the 1 in 100 chance and became president

    rather than they were wrong in their prediction.

    robbie et al. sure seem convenced they are right for 2018

    trump cannot score a 1 in 100 goal again …

  1178. lisab says:

    look … we had a child … 50-50 … it was a girl

    we had another child … it was a another girl

    if we have another child the chance we will have another girl is like 1 in 1000!

    ummmmmmmmmm … no … no it isn’t.

  1179. lisab says:

    if anything i think trump has a better chance in 2020 than he had in 2016

    **assuming** the economy stays strong

  1180. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Trump didn’t score a 1 in 100. He scored a 1 in 3. 538 had him at 30% and he barely won thanks to comey and russian interference.

    Even so his base of support is weak and he didn’t even win a plurality of voters.

    Has he convinced anyone to come to his side?

    All he’s done is alienate people and attack people of color for speaking out.

    He’s a racist and a liar and he will not be treated kindly by history.

    Nor will his supporters.

  1181. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Yeah dumb white grievance politics. Trump attacks black and brown people and somehow it’s the nonwhites that are racist in the minds of white people like lisab. I didn’t realize that you were starving in Puerto Rico or have a good chance of dying during a routine traffic stop. Poor baby.

    If you’re that dense go ahead and vote for republicans. I’d love for obamacare to be 100% repealed abd all the dumb white people have tveir insurance go up by 100%. Then they can die off faster and our country can move forward.

    Win win.

  1182. lisab says:

    so you want the white people to die

    good to know

  1183. PHIL says:

    Death to white people!

  1184. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab has dense breasts? Is her doctor sure that isn’t.t her ribs?

    Zing!

    Seriously. It is great that you are getting your proper exams. One of my best friends just had a double mastectomy. She starts chemo and radiation on Friday. She will fight. My wife and I would do anything for her.

  1185. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie–What are your thoughts about the Groper in the Jebot Family? A second woman has now alleged that Bush41 groped her.
    second woman has accused former President George H.W. Bush of groping her.

    “Jordan Grolnick, a New York actress, said that she has a similar story to the one Heather Lind shared about the former president fondling her during a photo op, according to Deadspin.

    Bush apologized through a spokesman in a statement earlier Wednesday. The statement said that “on occasion, he has patted women’s rears in what he intended to be a good-natured manner” and routinely tells a joke.

    Deadspin reported that a source said the “joke” the statement refers to was Bush saying that his favorite magician was “David-Cop-A-Feel.”
    “To anyone he has offended, President Bush apologizes most sincerely,” the statement said.

    Lind wrote in a now-deleted Instagram post reported by The Daily Mail on Tuesday that Bush “assaulted me while posing for a… photo.”

    “When I got the chance to meet George H. W. Bush four years ago to promote a historical television show I was working on, he sexually assaulted me while I was posing for a similar photo. He didn’t shake my hand. He touched me from behind from his wheelchair with his wife Barbara Bush by his side. He told me a dirty joke,” Lind wrote.”

  1186. NYCmike says:

    “Deadspin reported that a source said the “joke” the statement refers to was Bush saying that his favorite magician was “David-Cop-A-Feel.””

    -Heh, that is pretty good! I’ll have to tell my Dad that one, and see if he can put it to use.

    Bush is a dirty old man!

  1187. JC says:

    lisab says:
    October 26, 2017 at 12:55 am

    look … we had a child … 50-50 … it was a girl

    we had another child … it was a another girl

    if we have another child the chance we will have another girl is like 1 in 1000!

    ummmmmmmmmm … no … no it isn’t.
    ——————–

    My step dad’s parents had 5 girls in a row. They decided to try ONE more time and finally popped out a son.

  1188. JC says:

    if we have another child the chance we will have another girl is like 1 in 1000!
    ——————

    Odds of having 3 girls in a row is 12.5%
    Five girls is 3.12%

  1189. Tina says:

    Justice dept settles over the delayed tax exempt status for tea party groups.

    ABC News ? @ABC
    JUST IN: Justice Dept. settles with groups improperly targeted by IRS: “There is no excuse for this conduct.”

  1190. JC says:

    lisab says:
    October 26, 2017 at 12:52 am

    people like petewilson

    seem to be under the impression that trump scored the 1 in 100 chance and became president

    rather than they were wrong in their prediction.

    robbie et al. sure seem convenced they are right for 2018

    trump cannot score a 1 in 100 goal again …
    ——————–

    Don’t ya know!

    Trump, who has built up a billion dollar business empire, has maintained that empire for decades, found success in media and hollywood, owns several skyscrapers around the world, travels in his own personal 757 jet, beat out 16 well qualified GOP politicians, and who defeated the most powerful political machine in American history with the entire media complex against him to become the President of the United States, is……

    an incompetent dumb buffoon who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

  1191. JC says:

    Tina says:
    October 26, 2017 at 8:42 am

    Justice dept settles over the delayed tax exempt status for tea party groups.

    ABC News ? @ABC
    JUST IN: Justice Dept. settles with groups improperly targeted by IRS: “There is no excuse for this conduct.”
    ———————-

    How about instead of settlements, we prosecute the people who turned our tax collectors into a weapon to be used against political opponents?

  1192. JC says:

    The deep state is coming undone.

  1193. Bitterlaw says:

    The deep state is coming undone.

    Ever since they had to move their meetings from the grassy knoll in Dallas, they lost focus.

  1194. Bitterlaw says:

    Here is my break down of HHR. Add names as necessary:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    NYC
    Michigan Guy
    mnw
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina
    Chicon

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

  1195. DW says:

    Interesting trip down memory lane from a year ago with the prognostication web sites all giving the election to Clinton.

    At one point late in the Fox News coverage Chris Stirewalt made the point that Clinton was going to win the national popular vote, and if she did by 2 or 3 percent, it would be roughly what was predicted by national matchup polls. Of course the Electoral College is what mattered.

  1196. Chicon says:

    Bitter – I don’t think Trump is a good leader. I think he’s a poor leader. And he’s a jerk. He’s trying to do conservative things and is not Hillary. That’s what I like. I also enjoy his jousting with the media. I also understand he was hired as a change agent, which is typically not pretty.

  1197. JC says:

    There is no such thing as a protected political class. Our rulers are benevolent and good natured. To even question the moral integrity of our glorious leaders is blasphemy!:

    Bitterlaw

  1198. DW says:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    NYC
    Michigan Guy
    mnw
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina
    Chicon

    Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

  1199. JC says:

    War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength:

    Bitterlaw

  1200. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – Duly noted. I do not trust Trump at all. He is trying to do “conservative things” because the GOP controls Congress. I do not doubt that if the GOP loses the Senate that he will “evolve” and return to his liberal core.

  1201. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzz. I note that JC did not deny being a True Believer.

  1202. JC says:

    Guys, I want to thank BL for opening my eyes. Now I know that there isn’t any way that our intelligence agencies, government bureaucracies, and judicial systems could possibly be infested with blatantly political activists who abuse their power to advance their political agenda.

    Nope. No chance at all.

    That would imply corruption. And we all know, thanks to Bitter, that even questioning such prospects is preposterous.

  1203. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 9:23 am

    Chicon – Duly noted. I do not trust Trump at all. He is trying to do “conservative things” because the GOP controls Congress. I do not doubt that if the GOP loses the Senate that he will “evolve” and return to his liberal core.
    ———————-

    You alternate reality. That’s all I can say.

    Those GOP establishmentarians that you love so much are the ones blocking conservative agendas. Not Trump.

    Trump is more conservative than you.

  1204. Chicon says:

    Bitter – I would not be shocked if that happened. He just wants to get credit for getting things done. That’s why it is frustrating to me that the gop can’t get stuff passed – Trump will sign anything.

  1205. JC says:

    *You live

  1206. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Another day, another 2018 Florida Senate poll. This one is a Mason-Dixon production. Nelson(D-inc.) and Scott(R) are each at 44%.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article180923056.html

  1207. Hugh says:

    JC. You are right prosecutions are necessary as a warning to other bureaucrats. Our business deals with fdic dol sec irs and others. The irs is the least political and the most fair. That should scare everyone

  1208. Tina says:

    Another list by the hhr lawyah.

  1209. Tina says:

    Yes, i like that he fights the commie media, the leftists, and the rinos.

    Yes, i do like some of his policies. Minimal debt increase in 10 months, massive reg cuts, and pro border enforcement,

    So, i cannot fit in any ine grouping.

  1210. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is more conservative than you.

    Senators Schumer, Reid and Hillary Clinton would disagree. They only got Trump’s money. Not mine.

  1211. Tina says:

    Federal employee cuts,

    So far, more conservative than I expected. More conservative than the bushes.

    Again, so far….

  1212. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Just wondering:

    A) out of the 54% of Trump’s donations that went to Democrats, how many of those groups have also received Bitter$Cash?

    B) out of the 46% of Trump’s donations that went to Republicans, how many of those groups have also received Bitter$Cash?

  1213. Bitterlaw says:

    Guys, I want to thank BL for opening my eyes. Now I know that there isn’t any way that our intelligence agencies, government bureaucracies, and judicial systems could possibly be infested with blatantly political activists who abuse their power to advance their political agenda.

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Are there politically motivated Federal employees? Yes. Is there grand evil plot spanning decades of nefarious planning? I do not believe it for one simple reason. That would require intelligent, dedicated and hard-working people. Those are not terms usually associated with government employees. Except for Tina, of course.

  1214. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I do not donate to candidates. I donate to charities for MS and Cancer research. The only exception was 2008 and 2012 when I think I donated $100 to McCain and Romney.

  1215. DW says:

    Robbie kept suggesting that all Trump has had going for him so far was just Gorsuch.

    I am sorry but that is a pretty BIG deal, and not just a ‘just’

    Gorsuch could be on the high court for the rest of my life. Given that Obama’s appointments might also be, this is a HUGE deal. Regardless the direction of the rest of Trump’s presidency, I will never let go of the fact that he gave us Gorsuch.

  1216. NYCmike says:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    Michigan Guy
    mnw
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina
    Chicon

    Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW

    Trump is great because he 1) won, 2) fights to set the narrative that Breitbart spoke about and 3) picked conservative-minded people for his cabinet and is carrying out mainly conservative-oriented policies thru the Executive Branch, as the Constitution specified:

    NYC

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

  1217. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    46% is higher than 0%.

    If you want to use donation$ as benchmark, then “Trump is more conservative than you.”, as JC stated.

  1218. NYCmike says:

    I also believe that Trump donate$ to charities, both private and public, but he could probably tell you more about that. Maybe.

  1219. NYCmike says:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    Michigan Guy
    mnw
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina
    Chicon

    Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW

    Trump is great because he 1) won, 2) fights to set the narrative that Breitbart spoke about and 3) picked conservative-minded people for his cabinet and is carrying out mainly conservative-oriented policies thru the Executive Branch, as the Constitution specified 4) GORSUCH (and hopefully several more):

    NYC

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

  1220. mnw says:

    Sheeple

    That’s three polls in a row you posted before I could. Damn your eyes.

    Even the jolly, devil-may-care moderators at RRH concede that Nelson is in trouble. And that Scott, a self-financer if ever there was one, will save the GOP national committees a fortune.

    McConnell’s PAC: I know Kelli Ward is considered the second coming of Sharon Angle here. Let’s assume she is that. McConnell’s PAC is attacking her with DEM talking points, even though she’s the only serious candidate running in the AZ GOP primary at the moment. Ward will either lose the GOP primary, or she will win it. Either way, McConnell’s PAC seems like the greatest gift the DEMs have had since Watergate to me. What an ingenious way to tell the GOP base to stay home in the GE.

  1221. JC says:

    Does BL think that illegal immigration would be down by 75% if Rubio had been elected?

    Does he think the Rubio would have reduced even a tenth of the burdensome regulations that Trump has?

    Does he believe that Rubio would have left the wealth redistribution scheme known as the Paris Accord?

    Does he think that Rubio would be pushing for massive corporate tax reductions that would spur the economic growth above 3%, something Obama wasn’t able to do in 8 years?

    The stock market has jumped +4,800 since the election. That’s a 26% increase in less than a year.

    Now Trump’s slashing of regulations, killing TPP (or any reincarnation that Clinton/Rubio would have created), leaving the Paris Accord, slashing illegal immigration (and thus lowering unemployment and social net abuse), renegotiating of NAFTA, and an overall policy of America First oriented action has helped this. But all those things alone, or even together, aren’t responsible for this growth.

    Trump, more than anything, has restored optimism in our economy. And that is more powerful than any regulation or law could ever impose.

  1222. mnw says:

    Mike

    Why am I on your list? I was never a Trump redhot. I supported Scott Walker & then voted for PDT reluctantly indeed. I got banned at Lucianne for calling Trump bad named, btw.

    So take me off your list, pls. It’s just inaccurate to include me on it.

  1223. Bitterlaw says:

    Bitterlaw,

    46% is higher than 0%

    NYC:

    Try to keep up. 100% of my contributions went to Republicans. Only 46% of Trump’s contributions went to Republicans. 100% is greater than 46%.

    54% of Trump’s donations went to hard core leftist Democrats. 0% of my donations went to any Democrats. 54% is greater than 0%

    Your analysis sucked. Trump forever forfeited any claim to conservatism when he donated to Schumer, Hillary and Reid. I do not believe in redemption.

  1224. Bitterlaw says:

    It was my list, mnw. I thought that you were pro-Trump. My error.

  1225. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC pretends that he does not cheerlead and make excuses for Trump so he invented his own category.

  1226. Robbie says:

    Democrats now hold more than a 10 point lead in the generic ballot average at RCP and that includes the 15 point lead the newest FoxNews poll shows. But MAGA, right? Everything’s fine, right?

    Unfortunately, most in the Trump Dunce Cap Brigade only care about protecting Dear Leader Trump. That’s what happens when a cult of personality exits like it does around Trump. The House and Senate members, who cares?

  1227. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    Hey Adam, you should probably delete this
    Adam Schiff
    @RepAdamSchiff
    Replying to @RepAdamSchiff
    All of us should be gravely concerned when a foreign power like Russia seeks to undermine our democratic institutions.
    9:36 PM · Oct 25, 2017

    Yeah, schiff for brains.

  1228. mnw says:

    NYC Mike

    “Trump is personally distasteful, but I am willing to see how he does & hoping for the best” is where I SHOULD be on your list.

    You put me among the Trump enthusiasts based on no evidence at all. And I have no quarrel whatsoever with the Trump enthusiasts, btw.

  1229. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 10:01 am
    NYC pretends that he does not cheerlead and make excuses for Trump so he invented his own category.

    – I despise Trump and am proud to say so. NYCMike spends his days shilling for Trump and won’t admit it.

  1230. Bitterlaw says:

    The stock market has jumped +4,800 since the election. That’s a 26% increase in less than a year.

    JC sounds like a liberal who used to praise Obama as President because the stock market also increased in value while he was President.

    I think that Rubio would have been a better President than Trump. There would have been a repeal and replace of Obamacare by now. There would also be tax reform now. Trump’s personal war against Republican Senators did not advance his alleged agenda.

  1231. Tina says:

    Dw, how goes the va gov race?

  1232. Tina says:

    Is the 8 point lead accurate?

  1233. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    Michigan Guy
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina
    Chicon

    Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW
    mnw

    Trump is great because he 1) won, 2) fights to set the narrative that Breitbart spoke about and 3) picked conservative-minded people for his cabinet and is carrying out mainly conservative-oriented policies thru the Executive Branch, as the Constitution specified 4) GORSUCH (and hopefully several more):

    NYC

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

    mnw – The original list was mine (1223). I fixed it.

  1234. JC says:

    TPP would have been a huge drain for our economy, shipped manufacturing overseas, and would have allowed other nations to exploit us.

    So why did our government push for it?

    Because the lawmakers didn’t give a s**t about what’s best for America. They don’t make decisions based on what is best for our country. They would have personally profited from it and that’s all that mattered.

    Same for the Paris Accord. It was a redistribution scheme to transfer wealth and jobs to the EU. It has nothing to do with the ‘environment’.

    Our borders remain unsecured and we import million of illegal immigrants who take jobs away from Americans, don’t pay taxes, and drain away our social nets. Why have open borders? Because the corporations who want cheap labor and the dems who want more votes profit from it. Our economic growth be damned.

    The Uranium One deal gave Russia control of 20% of our Uranium supply. Why!? What possible good could come out of this? What benefit did America receive from this deal?

    We didn’t. The people who crafted the deal benefited from it. The betterment of America was not in the equation.

    This mindset is how our lawmakers have been running our country for the past 40 years. They don’t make decisions based on what’s best for our country. It’s all about personal enrichment.

    Trump is changing that mindset. He’s trying to bring factories back. Renegotiating silly, stupid trade deals that put us in at a disadvantage even though we are a super power.

    The piggy bank is closing. That’s why consumer confidence is so high right now. America is finally going to stop itself from being exploited just because foreign powers and corporations paid off the right people.

  1235. mnw says:

    BL

    I don’t generally like counter-factual history, because (among many other reasons), there’s no way to know for sure. However…

    Trump won by pulling out an astonishing percentage of white working class voters. That is why all the polling models, including Hillary’s, were so wrong. I am dubious that any other GOP candidate could have done that. Certainly Romney & McCain could not.

  1236. DW says:

    mnw, so where exactly would you land on Bitter’s list?

  1237. mnw says:

    BL

    and thx for the correction. That is where I should be, definitely. I was venomously anti-Trump prior to the GE.

  1238. mnw says:

    DW

    See post #1257 above, pls.

  1239. Tina says:

    Tpp is what appears to have driven flakey to lunancy.

    I see that another senator has blasted flakey.

    I cannot see why rubio even campaigned for him. Flakey is Pro cuban outreach, the same gubment that injured sos workers with their sonic blasts.

  1240. Chicon says:

    Where’s my list correction, Bitter? In your categories I’m closer to the one with DW.

  1241. Bitterlaw says:

    JC – I think that Trump only believes in Trump. We both better hope that at least the Senate stays in GOP hands. I think Trump breaks left if it does not.

  1242. Trump says:

    BL likes losers like himself. Thus Rubio.

    The less said about the cretin Robbie, the better.

    Jeb? Holy cow!

  1243. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason”
    __________________________________
    Put Cash Cow in either of these two columns.
    Walt, too.

  1244. Trump says:

    Trump believes in America. That’s why he won.

    All charlatans like Rubio believed in their own brilliance.

  1245. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    Michigan Guy
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina

    Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW
    mnw
    Chicon

    Trump is great because he 1) won, 2) fights to set the narrative that Breitbart spoke about and 3) picked conservative-minded people for his cabinet and is carrying out mainly conservative-oriented policies thru the Executive Branch, as the Constitution specified 4) GORSUCH (and hopefully several more):

    NYC

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

    IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MOVE TO ANOTHER CATEGORY THEY CAN COPY AND PASTE IT THEMSELVES.

  1246. Bitterlaw says:

    Rubio was my third choice after Walker and Christie. I responded to JC’s question about Rubio.

  1247. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 10:22 am

    JC – I think that Trump only believes in Trump.
    —————–

    No one can know that but Trump.

    But even if Trump was only for Trump, Trump at least is smart enough to know that he will only succeed if he keep’s Trump’s base happy. And his base will only be happy if Trump does what he promised his base he would do.

    That at least puts him a step above most GOP politicians.

  1248. Trump says:

    All losers out of the gate.

    Nobody is surprised.

  1249. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is a great leader and visionary (True Believers):

    JC
    Jonesy
    Sheeple
    Michigan Guy
    dblaike

    Trump is a great leader not because of his actual plan but because he fights Democrats:

    Tina

    Trump is personally distasteful, but am willing to see how he does and am hoping for the best:

    DW
    mnw
    Chicon
    Walt

    Trump is great because he 1) won, 2) fights to set the narrative that Breitbart spoke about and 3) picked conservative-minded people for his cabinet and is carrying out mainly conservative-oriented policies thru the Executive Branch, as the Constitution specified 4) GORSUCH (and hopefully several more):

    NYC

    Trump sucks but at least he isn’t Hillary:

    Bitterlaw
    Phil
    Jason
    Cash Cow

    Trump is the Anti-Christ:

    Robbie

    Cash Cow and Walt are in separate categories.

  1250. Bitterlaw says:

    JC – Do you honestly believe that Trump would not go left if he thought it helped him?

  1251. Trump says:

    If Trump was only for Trump, he would be building more Mar-a-Lago’s across the globe.

  1252. Bitterlaw says:

    I think that Trump could reverse almost any position and his supporters would immediately justify it.

  1253. Trump says:

    Trump will go wherever he thinks America needs to go.

    He is not stupid like Rubio or McCain.

  1254. Trump says:

    You think a lot of stupid things.

  1255. Jonesy says:

    Ben Nelson is in his 70’s. Possibly facing a two time incumbent Gov and Self Funder.

    Rick Scot is no Katherine Harris. Please Retire

  1256. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 10:29 am

    JC – Do you honestly believe that Trump would not go left if he thought it helped him?
    ——————-

    I think Trump is smart enough to know that going left would never help him.

  1257. Trump says:

    Leave Nelson be. You wan Scott to grind him to death.

  1258. Jonesy says:

    1281. You were the same type of follower with Bush?

    You had no problem with Iraq?

    Just asking

  1259. hugh says:

    As a Floridian I have high confidence that Nelson. First his face looks just like the plastic face of a 70 year old former stripper. Second, Scott won previously even though many personally disliked him since he was a businessman in healthcare. After the hurricane I think that issue is gone.

  1260. BayernFan says:

    1264….agreed. In fact, the GOP only has a chance if they win white working class voters. Future nominees must be able to do so. The likes of Romney, Rubio, McCain, Corker, and Flake can’t. If anything, they repel those voters.

  1261. Jonesy says:

    I am a true Believer, in the sense that I like his policy and governing style, but I am not a big fan of his tweets when they pissing fights.

    Tweets are a great way to bypass the MSM and talk to his voters uncensored, but not helpful to engage with losers like Corker and Flake

  1262. hugh says:

    that Nelson will lose

  1263. Jonesy says:

    Trump, nelson makes that a open seat for Scott, and we can use our time in ND, Ind etc…

  1264. Jonesy says:

    Hugh, is it true that he was just a cargo officer on a space shuttle?

  1265. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 10:30 am
    I think that Trump could reverse almost any position and his supporters would immediately justify it.

    – 100% correct. He has created a cult of personality around himself. He is the Dear Leader.

  1266. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    October 26, 2017 at 10:35 am
    I am a true Believer, in the sense that I like his policy and governing style, but I am not a big fan of his tweets when they pissing fights.

    – Yeah, his governing style has produced so many accomplishments.

  1267. Jonesy says:

    I started out a Walker fan too, still am, but he could not fund raise.

    Bitter, were you a Bush Chump like Robbie?

  1268. Tina says:

    Did the jebots send happy birthday greetings to the future madame president?

  1269. mnw says:

    I agree that the GOP probably has a better chance of winning the FL seat if Nelson runs for reelection than if he retires. I’ve seen nothing whatever to indicate he’s considering retirement, happily.

  1270. Jonesy says:

    Robbie get help. You have been discredited on Russia.

    Bundle that with the Brokered Convention and Hillary wins Utah, and your best bet would be to go into hiding.

  1271. Tina says:

    Mrs. Mika Joe scarfarce is complaining about decade old allegations from secret sources.

    Too rich from her.

  1272. BayernFan says:

    If I were Trump I would do three things:

    1) Mercilessly bash both parties for punting on the ACA. Demand constantly that they fix it. Shame them.

    2) Build the Wall. Shame both parties if they don’t go along and fund it. Mercilessly. Make em squeal.

    3). Push hard for a big infrastructure bill. Ridicule Congress constantly if they don’t go along.

    In other words, detach from both parties and be the voice and monkey wrench that the voters expected when they elected him. Make them feel the wrath and derision of the voters.

  1273. Tina says:

    We can pick up the oh seat too. Our candidate is good

  1274. Jonesy says:

    Robbie=Bush Chump

    HW Bush dirty Old Man Chump.

    Bush family would not vote for Trump because of his manners, but look the other way the Old Man is copping feels

  1275. Tina says:

    I blame the family. They should have never allowed it, jonesy.

    Flub admitted that it has been going in for years.

    41 is a sick man.

  1276. Jonesy says:

    Yes Bay. He will do that if the GOPe derails the Tax Cuts.

    I think Trump should also get rid of the Ind Mandate on Obamacare, and blame it on the IRS

  1277. DW says:

    Tina, VA gov race looks good. I don’t think Gillespie wins by as much as Hampton U says, but I am thinking more like 1 to 3 point win for Ed.

  1278. Jonesy says:

    George W is a POS. Calls out the CIC of his own party in NYC, but then has no problem with creepy old father

  1279. Bitterlaw says:

    Bitter, were you a Bush Chump like Robbie?

    No. I was the one who invented the name JEB! here as a derisive term. My choices in order were Walker, Christie, Rubio, Everybody not named Rand Paul or Donald Trump, Rand Paul, Trump (17th place)

  1280. Tina says:

    HE should also force the congress onto the exchange. No exemption for those crooks.

  1281. Bitterlaw says:

    You had no problem with Iraq?

    The surge started too late. I was fine with the invasion.

  1282. Jonesy says:

    Bitter, I mean George W, not Jeb. Fair to question Trump believers, but were you the same in 2003?

  1283. Jonesy says:

    It all begins and ends with Tax Cuts. Everything else at this point is mumbo jumbo

  1284. BayernFan says:

    Tina that would go under #1. No mercy for scumbag politicians.

  1285. Jonesy says:

    1310. Agreed Tina

  1286. mnw says:

    DW

    That’s a bold prediction on VA Guv. Sure hope u r right. Gillespie always seems to overachieve. It will be fascinating to see if Gillespie invites Trump down for a rally 24-36 hours before the polls open. I bet he does.

    I like Trump’s “opioids emergency” announcement. If nothing else, it will raise awareness.

    I think Bannon has gone full tilt crazy for going after WY Sen. Barrasso. I mean, wtf? Bannon & McConnell ought to get married.

  1287. Jonesy says:

    Good to see Grassley setting up Committee Votes for Several Judge nominees Today and next week.

  1288. Bitterlaw says:

    Jonesy – I thought that GWB was a good candidate and good President. I thought he spent too much and the surge was too late. I had no problem voting for him in 2000 or 2004 because I thought that he was a decent man. I did not worship him as a person as many of Trump’s never defined base does.

    I voted for Trump in 2016 despite thinking that he was pure scum as a person.

  1289. Jonesy says:

    He needs to lay off Barrasso, who is also a doctor.

  1290. JC says:

    Mark Halperin now hampered with tons of sexual harassment accusations from at least 5 different women. Apparently, ABC knew about this behavior for years and did nothing.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/media/mark-halperin-sexual-harassment-allegations/index.html

    I wonder how many times this prick has railed against the GOP’s ‘war on women’.

  1291. Jonesy says:

    Fair Enough Bitter. I voted for him twice also

  1292. Jonesy says:

    Well, Dennis Haesert was able to hide molestation for 30 years.

    Many creeps on both sides in NYC and D.C

  1293. jason says:

    “and attack people of color”

    Really? I am not a Trump fan, but I have to admit he is an equal opportunity attacker.

  1294. Jonesy says:

    Despite Trump’s baggage, Bush hiding the DUI was about the stupidest thing a politician has ever done

  1295. Jonesy says:

    I hate the fact that Nova votes are always held till last in Virginia.

    Republicans control the legislature there, why did they not thwart that?

  1296. jason says:

    You should have a new category.

    Never supported Trump but now sees him as the Messiah

    Soccer Moron

  1297. JC says:

    mnw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 10:53 am

    DW

    That’s a bold prediction on VA Guv. Sure hope u r right. Gillespie always seems to overachieve. It will be fascinating to see if Gillespie invites Trump down for a rally 24-36 hours before the polls open. I bet he does.
    —————–

    All Gillespie has to do is out perform Trump by about 3-5% in NOVA/Richmond County while maintaining Trump’s huge rural advantage. I think he’ll do enough in NOVA and the big cities, especially because I suspect that minority turnout margins will be lower than in 2016. It’s getting that massive rural vote that might be his biggest hurdle.

    In the last few days he should have Trump come campaign for him in the western counties (especially Bedford).

  1298. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – The list was for posters and not trolls.

    I did not put Mr, Vito on the list because he is complex.

  1299. jason says:

    d abd all the dumb white people have tveir insurance go up by 100%. Then they can die off faster and our country can move forward. We win”

    Obamacare was never about helping people and solving health care problems. It was always about politics and ideology, and how much government takeover could be achieved. Finally they were able to buy 60 votes to approve this 3000 pages of a eight headed monster boondoggle, not what they wanted (single payer, public option) but what they could buy Ben Nelson to vote for.

    At least PeteWilson admits the truth, he and his fellow Democrats don’t really care who lives or dies, its about “winning”.

  1300. jason says:

    I did not put Mr, Vito on the list because he is complex.”

    Jealous…. I am complex too… how many Incan Amish do you know?

  1301. jason says:

    If you are willing to accept the results of the election you are a chump.

    If you are still living in the primaries and pining for the worst “front runner” in history you are a what?

  1302. mnw says:

    Jason

    I was in Peru last summer with my kids. Ever visit your ancestral homeland? Peru is awfully third world-y.

  1303. Tina says:

    Bush 43was not a conservative.

    Spender and porker who blew up the me and iraq.

  1304. Tina says:

    I am complex. I need to be pit in several parts of the lawyah list.

    I was also classified up until a few years ago.

  1305. DW says:

    DW

    That’s a bold prediction on VA Guv.

    Not really. I surveyed the current polling yesterday against recent statewide elections, and show how the pollsters keep using the same assumptions that gave them the same failed results over and over. My impression is Hampton tried to update their sampling to capture more of the rural vote and they have Gillespie ahead.

    I have also seen a greater amount of interested on the local GOP for this race. Repeated phone calls, more reach out and so on. We will see in 12 days, but I think Ed is in a great position to win.

  1306. DW says:

    1334 – exactly. ‘Compassionate Conservative’ turned out to be code language for big-time spender.

    And don’t forget how it was like pulling teeth to get a solid SCOTUS nominee out of Bush43.

  1307. mnw says:

    It’s too bad Hampton U didn’t do an earlier poll so that we could see the trend line.

  1308. jason says:

    Even so his base of support is weak and he didn’t even win a plurality of voters”

    LOL, are you really that deluded?

    Plurality of votes means what exactly in a EC election.

    He won the race to 270. He wasn’t concerned about winning the popular vote, which by the way neither was Hillary.

    They devoted the strategy, the resources, the ads, the rallies, the visits, etc to getting to 270.

    A popular vote election would have been a completely different election, certainly nobody would be campaigning in NH on the eve of the election.

    Of course, PeteWilson probably knows that, but I guess “won more votes” is a crutch for losers.

  1309. jason says:

    was in Peru last summer with my kids. Ever visit your ancestral homeland? Peru is awfully third world-y”

    I have been to Peru many times. However, don’t tell Bitter, I was born a little south of there.

  1310. DW says:

    1339 – this is spot on. I don’t know how many times I have seen this–even election night pundits say, well, if only it was popular vote instead of electoral college, Clinton would have won.

    Silly.

    The entire strategy is different under a popular vote model. Trump had the luxury of just writing off large population centers in CA, MA, IL, and NY which contributed to Clinton running up the score there. But under a popular vote model, he works these states to keep the margins closer.

  1311. DW says:

    Electoral vote versus Electoral College arguments are as silly as a baseball team celebrating wildly after the game because they hit 4 homers to their opponent’s 2 homers, but lost the game 6 to 5.

  1312. DW says:

    *Popular vote versus Electoral College

    –need more coffee

  1313. mnw says:

    jason

    It’s fascinating & beautiful. I was surprised to learn that the Quechua ilanguage class is mandatory in Peru schools. I was told that, anyway.

    I dressed for the jungle… & quickly bought a heavy hooded parka, btw.

  1314. Mr.Vito says:

    Pretty sure Jason is from Chile… Bitter likes to say he is from Peru.

  1315. jason says:

    Nobody knows what would have happened. Obviously Trump would not have conceded a 4 million vote difference in CA, he won the rest of the country by 1.5 million votes. By the same token Hillary would have tried to narrow the margins in states she did not contest under the EC system.

    Apples and oranges, different election completely.

  1316. jason says:

    Shhhhh…..

  1317. JC says:

    Rush Limbaugh, as usual, perfectly explained Trump’s political leanings, which are not based on ideology, but common sense:

    The question from the Official Program Observer is:

    “You say Trump’s not ideological, but everything he does is right out of the ideological conservative playbook.” I stand by my comment that he’s not ideological, because he’s… (interruption) Look, here’s the difference. Trump is not targeting any of these things — climate change, welfare reform, getting rid of Obamacare — because he’s opposed to liberalism, and he’s not taking shots here now at welfare reform because he thinks it’s a lousy liberal idea.

    I have often told you that conservatism, in its base form, is simple common sense and that it is the way most people actually live their lives. Now, they may not always vote that way because of the way conservatism has been debauched and stigmatized and ruined and assaulted, PR-wise. But you look at the way most people try to raise their kids, for example. Look at the way most people go about improving their standard of living. If you go out looking at people who appreciate the traditions and institutions…

    Patriots! If you go out and you look at the way most people are reacting to this NFL thing, that’s not conservative-liberal for a lot of people. This is just pro-America, anti-America, and they don’t associate ideology with it at all. In Trump’s case, I think his instincts tend toward common sense, and to the extent that conservatism at its base level is just common sense…

    In Trump’s case, I can tell you… If you today, after listening to him say this next aspect of his agenda, “Man, Mr. President, this conservatism you’re doing,” he would look at you like you’re from Mars. To him, this is just nothing more than common sense. Now, he’s also learned — without a doubt — what it is about his enemies that make them his enemies…

    Is it conservative? Fine! Let’s do it. If it’s not conservative, screw it. I’m not gonna do it.” That’s not how he thinks. I’m just telling you, it’s not how he thinks. But his instincts are like the vast majority of the American people’s instincts — and I mean the majority. They may not all vote that way. But they certainly live their lives on balance much more conservatively than liberally. No question about it.

  1318. jason says:

    & quickly bought a heavy hooded parka, btw.”

    Yep, you will freeze to death quickly in the Andes if you are dressed for jungle.

  1319. Mr.Vito says:

    Budget passed 216-212.

  1320. JC says:

    DW says:
    October 26, 2017 at 11:29 am

    1339 – this is spot on. I don’t know how many times I have seen this–even election night pundits say, well, if only it was popular vote instead of electoral college, Clinton would have won.

    Silly.
    ————————-

    Listen, I know that the rules state that you won because you’ve check-mated my King. But look! I have more pieces than you. This victory should totally be mine!

  1321. NYCmike says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/891660131188060161

    “11. The real way that this works is through the American Bar Association and the Chamber of Commerce.”

  1322. jason says:

    Trump is not a conservative, never was, never will be.

    Every R that the deadenders don’t like including Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, etc. are a lot more conservative than Trump.

    The attempt to make Trump a conservative is to justify the opposition to people that are actually to the right of him. I understand that.

    I just don’t think its necessary.

    In the end, it doesn’t really matter. It’s the results that count.

    If it makes deadenders more comfortable supporting a President who is not a conservative, go to it.

    But don’t push the envelope to absurdity, like claiming above that “Trump is more conservative than Bitter”.

  1323. jason says:

    I hate the fact that Nova votes are always held till last in Virginia.

    Republicans control the legislature there, why did they not thwart that?”

    Hey, they need to know how many votes they have to come up with so the Dem will win.

  1324. JC says:

    Every R that the deadenders don’t like including Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, etc. are a lot more conservative than Trump.
    ————————-

    These people are preventing congress from passing conservative legislation. They are actively trying to block Trump from implementing conservative policies.

    You are blinded by your wounded pride.

    Or in other words…

    War is Peace.
    Freedom is Slavery.
    Ignorance is Strength.

  1325. NYCmike says:

    “Every R that the deadenders don’t like including Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, etc. are a lot more conservative than Trump.”

    -Personally? Maybe.

    Politically? Their current actions say something different.

    What standards are being used to determine “conservative”? Campaign rhetoric, or actions taken while governing?

  1326. jason says:

    ‘You are blinded by your wounded pride. ”

    Zzzzzzzz… these “people” have decades of being conservatives and Republicans, and thousands of votes recorded in history.

    They haven’t been conservatives and Republicans for 5 minutes like Trump, they haven’t contributed to Democrats, they haven’t supported partial birth abortion, they haven’t said Dems are better for the economy, they haven’t said government paid universal health care is an entitlement right for everyone, they haven’t said “deficits are not a problem just print more money”.

    But if it makes you feel better and delude yourself that Trump is a conservative, feel free to live your fantasy.

  1327. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw to bleet out “He said repeal AND REPLACE!” in 3…..2…..1……

  1328. NYCmike says:

    ” they haven’t said “deficits are not a problem just print more money”.”

    -BUT, they chose to keep government open while passing omnibus bills which did what Trump said.

  1329. NYCmike says:

    “they haven’t supported partial birth abortion”

    -Did ALL of them vote to DEFUND Planned Parenthood?

  1330. jason says:

    heir current actions say something different.”

    LOL

    NYC at war with himself again.

    On one hand, the “rinos” are no longer conservatives because of “current actions”, that has to negate their lifelong actions and commitment to the party and conservatism.

    However, Trump’s “current actions” prove he is a stalwart conservative.

    You have to admire the hypocrisy.

  1331. NYCmike says:

    “they haven’t said”
    “they haven’t said”
    “they haven’t said”

    -Lots of talk.

    What actions have been taken as President?

    ACTIONS speak much louder than words.

    See Obama,President.

  1332. mnw says:

    So the GOP majority in the House is 240-194 (with 1 vacancy, I think), & they passed their budget today by …4 votes 216-212.

    This kind of mass disloyalty never happened when the DEMs were in charge. I blame Ryan & his leadership team. A Politico article today ( I think) said, “GOP Must Pass Tax Cuts or Lose the House.”

    I think that’s right, but the congressional GOP acts as if their majority isn’t at stake.

  1333. NYCmike says:

    “prove he is a stalwart conservative.”

    -Not at all.

    YOU are the one who made the statement:

    “Every R that the deadenders don’t like including Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, etc. are a lot more conservative than Trump.”

    BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE.

  1334. jason says:

    Campaign rhetoric, or actions taken while governing?”

    Keep digging.

    Actually, Trump said NONE of those things while a candidate.

    He said them as a private citizen who had no incentive to lie, when he was free to express his vies without worrying about politics.

  1335. Tina says:

    R leadership is doing well.

    I read it here.

    /s

  1336. Tina says:

    Those rs run conservatives, and the. Govern as d lites.

  1337. NYCmike says:

    “He said them as a private citizen who had no incentive to lie, when he was free to express his vies without worrying about politics.”

    -Back to those old quotes you used every day last year, while totally ignoring the statements which are in direct contrast to what you thought.

    I played that game last year, defeated you handily.

    Move on.

  1338. Mr.Vito says:

    “You have to admire the hypocrisy.”

    Both of those statements said that all that matters is current actions. I’m not saying I agree, but the two statements are consistent.

  1339. jason says:

    BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE.”

    The evidence is there. Decades of service as real Republicans and conservatives.

    On the other hand, Trump was a registered Democrat when he was 60 years old.

    I guess he saw the light, better late than never, right?

  1340. NYCmike says:

    “On one hand, the “rinos” are no longer conservatives because of “current actions”, ”

    -I didn’t say this either.

    You stated: “Every R that the deadenders don’t like including Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, etc. are a lot more conservative than Trump.”

    SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE to back this statement up.

  1341. jason says:

    -Lots of talk.”

    LOL

    Was he lying then, or he is lying now?

  1342. JC says:

    Don’t bother with Jason. He see’s an apple where there is a banana.

  1343. mnw says:

    My concerns about Trump before his nomination were:

    1) I thought he would govern as a liberal DEM, based on his known past political history. I was particularly terrified when he said his ultra liberal sister would “make a great SCOTUS judge.”

    2) I thought he would lose worse than any GOP nominee since Goldwater in ’64.

    I was wrong on both counts. Happens a lot.

  1344. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has created a never-ending supply of logical exercises.

    I don’t care for him. Hillary is not President… this is good. Trump will be here for 4 years or more. The world has become more fascinating… that is not necessarily a good thing. Sometimes Trump does good things… sometimes Trump does bad things. Watching everyone try to twist themselves into pretzels is interesting. Sue me. I don’t care about parties. I do care about people and America. If Party X were created tomorrow and I thought it could make America better, I might support it.

    I guess this is why Bitter did not put me in a category. I think lisab may fall into whatever this category.

  1345. jason says:

    Every R that the deadenders don’t like including Flake, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, etc. are a lot more conservative than Trump.”

    SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE to back this statement up.”

    It’s recorded history. Their records as conservatives are available for anyone wanting to research it. But if you want to believe Trump’s recent embrace of “conservatism” is from the heart and not political opportunism, go to it.

    Btw, are you interested in some almost dry land in FL near the Everglades? Nice view, wildlife.

  1346. jason says:

    Watching everyone try to twist themselves into pretzels is interesting. Sue me. I don’t care about parties. I do care about people and America. If Party X were created tomorrow and I thought it could make America better, I might support it.”

    Well said.

    I prefaced my comments by saying what interests me are the results. And I no longer care about parties either, I am now an Indy.

    I just find the contortions people go through here to try to define Trump as a conservative highly amusing.

  1347. jason says:

    Don’t bother with Jason. He see’s an apple where there is a banana.”

    And some people doubt the influence of MSM….

  1348. JC says:

    jason says:
    October 26, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    “I don’t care about parties. I do care about people and America. If Party X were created tomorrow and I thought it could make America better, I might support it.”
    ———————–

    You just described Trump.

  1349. NYCmike says:

    ” are a lot more conservative than Trump.””

    -Current actions are all that matter.

    A clean slate was set up on January 20, 2017, 12:00 noon.

  1350. Mr.Vito says:

    I also think Republicans have been given a unique opportunity… policy-wise, Trump is mostly a shapeless mass… he has a checklist, but it is pretty bare-bones and flexible at the margins. They could make him into whatever they want him to be except conventional, establishment, elite, or whatever you want to call it. I think Ryan sees this and probably McConnell.

    Problem: 1) They don’t even know who they are right now 2) Many of them do not want to make Trump the figurehead of anything of ‘theirs’ and ‘risk’ having it associated with his

  1351. Mr.Vito says:

    …with his *fill in the blank with whatever their view is… brand, crassness, sinking ship, ego, deplorables

  1352. NYCmike says:

    “I just find the contortions people go through here to try to define Trump as a conservative highly amusing.”

    -I NEVER DEFINED TRUMP AS CONSERVATIVE.

    I DID SAY THAT THOSE NAMES YOU LISTED AS CONSERVATIVES HAVE ACTED LESS CONSERVATIVELY THAN TRUMP.

    CURRENT ACTIONS.

  1353. NYCmike says:

    #1382 – B O O M ! !

    Congress has no requirement to hear from the Executive Branch. Just pass the bills and send them to Trump to sign.

    I hoped for conservative-oriented legislation.

    Instead, I got McCain with a thumb in the air and his plea for bipartisanship.

  1354. Mr.Vito says:

    I am not going to turn into a Frankenstein monster, like a couple of people. Yes… a couple. I think 9 out of 10 posters here are not

    TRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMP BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

    TRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMP BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

    or

    TRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMP GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

    TRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMP GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

  1355. NYCmike says:

    “Was he lying then, or he is lying now?”

    -He could be lying before and now.

    And then, in the next instant, sign an EO, or legislation, or direct his cabinet secretary to do the exact opposite…….and then I will judge him on THE ACTION TAKEN.

    Very simple.

  1356. Mr.Vito says:

    And if people are afraid Trump is going to go liberal if the Dems take congress, then pass your damn legislation already.

  1357. Bitterlaw says:

    I guess JC wants us to all applaud him for reading 1984.

    He must think if we don’t worship Trump that we are totalitarians. Maybe he should read it again.

  1358. NYCmike says:

    “And if people are afraid Trump is going to go liberal if the Dems take congress, then pass your damn legislation already.”

    -Amen, Brother!…I mean SOCK!

  1359. NYCmike says:

    “He must think if we don’t worship Trump that we are totalitarians. Maybe he should read it again.”

    -I understood him, and your statement does not coincide with my thinking about his statement at all.

    Maybe you should copy-and-paste and then explain what you think he means.

  1360. Tina says:

    FOX Business ? @FoxBusiness
    .@RepChrisStewart: “If you’re one of these people…dreaming of President Trump’s going to be impeached for collusion… keep on dreaming.”
    9:38 AM – Oct 26, 2017

    I wake up at 11am each day thinking this.

    Jebot.

  1361. Mr.Vito says:

    A lot of the world sees America the way many Americans see Trump… unrefined, bullies, self-centered, oversexed, intolerant, unpardonable.

    Some also see a powerful change agent that has created jobs and wealth and built things all over the globe that they hope will be a force for good.

    Let’s hope for the good.

  1362. Bitterlaw says:

    The jokes work better if Jason is from Peru. Fine. Ruin everything.

  1363. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/wow-potus-trump-personally-ordered-doj-lift-gag-order-clinton-uranium-one-informant/

    Boom.

    This house r claims that the house leadership blocked him ffrom investigating uranium one.

    Not sure if boehner or ryano?

  1364. Bitterlaw says:

    I used to think that despite all the internet back and forth that NYC is an intelligent, decent person. His family hasn’t fired him so he must work hard. He is active in his son’s life and Boy Scouts. He is not an amoral predator of emotionally scarred women like Wes.

    However, his unyielding support for one of the most vile human beings ever elected President is a complete mystery to me (Ped0phile slave-owning Jefferson was the most vile). Anything Trump did in the past does not matter. Anything Trump does or does not do now is somebody else’s fault. I thought that NYC was a better person than that.

  1365. Trump says:

    Trump is what he is.

    He certainly is more American than all the losrs combined.

  1366. Trump says:

    I never thought that the stupid BL was a better person than the low-life scum he is.

  1367. Trump says:

    It appears that Bush Sr is more vile than Trump.

    Trump talks, Bush acts.

  1368. Trump says:

    “George H.W. Bush Apologizes to Second Actress After Sexual Assault Allegations

    Stage actress Jordana Grolnick is the second woman to come forward this week with accusations against George Bush Sr.

  1369. Trump says:

    I guess grabbing as* is lesser vile than talking about grabbing pus*y.

  1370. Trump says:

    The best ad for Trump 2020 campaign:

    “How Trump’s Cabinet Is Dismantling Government as We Know It”

    – TIME cover

  1371. Mr.Vito says:

    “The best ad for Trump 2020 campaign:

    “How Trump’s Cabinet Is Dismantling Government as We Know It”

    – TIME cover”

    interesting…

  1372. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    I was specifically speaking about jason’s statement about who is “conservative”, and how to determine that.

    I was NOT saying anything about his, or anyone else’s, moral transgressions.

  1373. NYCmike says:

    “I guess grabbing as* is lesser vile than talking about grabbing pus*y.”

    -Bitterlaw?

  1374. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    “Anything Trump did in the past does not matter.”
    -In regards to current actions as President, why would the past matter? I have stated repeatedly I don’t think Trump is an ideological person, in political terms.

    “Anything Trump does or does not do now is somebody else’s fault.”
    -Never said this, or even thought it. What exactly are you speaking about?

    ” I thought that NYC was a better person than that.”
    -I am a wonderful person.

  1375. Trump says:

    “As G.O.P. Bends Toward Trump, Critics Either Give In or Give Up”

  1376. Trump says:

    Whither Kasich?

  1377. Trump says:

    And Flake has not ruled out 2020 run.

    Ha ha ha ha

  1378. Mr.Vito says:

    I have also not ruled out a 2020 run.

  1379. Mr.Vito says:

    Why would they vote for someone like Flake, Kasich, or Corker when they have someone like Sasse?

  1380. Tina says:

    Downtown maxine dirty waters was targeted by russians, so she claims.

  1381. Trump says:

    “Trump-hater Rosie O’Donnell wonders if she will ‘live through’ presidency”

    Could Trump get any better?

  1382. Bitterlaw says:

    NT