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Hampton University Shows Gillespie With 8% Lead in VA

Hampton University has apparently found an electorate in Virginia that everyone else is missing if their latest poll for the Virginia gubernatorial race is to be believed.

GOVERNOR- VIRGINIA (Hampton)
Ed Gillespie (R) 41%
Ralph Northam (D) 33%

This poll was done October 18-22 among likely voters. Now they did not, for some reason, include the Libertarian candidate in the poll as well as the fact that they seem to have a very high number of Undecideds left out there, but Hampton university is being pretty bold to go public with such a large lead for Gillespie in the face of such overwhelming contrary data. That being said, I do remember three years ago when there was a single pollster that showed Larry Hogan with a 5% lead in the Maryland gubernatorial race in 2014 despite a number of more established pollsters showing a large lead for the Democrat and in the end, Hogan won.

Posted by Dave at 1:58 pm
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320 Responses to “Hampton University Shows Gillespie With 8% Lead in VA”

  1. Bitterlaw says:

    First

  2. Bitterlaw says:

    I am sorry that Bush, Sr. did those things. I do not know how long it has been going on but it is inexcusable. I do know that some elderly men loose their inhibitions and do things they did not do when younger. Still, it is wrong.

    Wes to say that I did not type what I just typed in 3…2…1…

  3. JC says:

    BL

    If he was doing it at an old age…

    He was doing it at a young age too.

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    JC – I do not know that. I know people who work in nursing homes who tell me that they have had residents for years who only did things like that in the last year of their lives. Of course, you will dismiss that because you think this story somehow exonerates Trump. It does not.

    As I said, I am sorry to hear these stories. Unless Bush, Sr. has dementia, there is no excuse for this. For the first 44 years of my life, I never heard my aunt utter a single curse word. In the last year of her life when she had Alzheimer’s, she developed a more colorful vocabulary.

  5. Tina says:

    It is his familys fault.

    Flub has said that it has gone on for years.

    So, his family needs to stop it.

  6. NYCmike says:

    “He was doing it at a young age too.”

    -I do not agree with this.

  7. Jonesy says:

    Trump names replacement for outgoing IRS Commissioner.

  8. Jonesy says:

    Do not feel good about roasting a 90 year old WW2 Hero in HW Bush, but I am so pissed at his Family of Hypocrites

  9. NYCmike says:

    I also do NOT think it is such a terrible crime…..any mature woman should be able to handle it quite easily….unless the women I know are very different from most other women in the world.

  10. Jonesy says:

    Scott Palk, was confirmed as District Judge of OK today.

    Trevor McFadden just passed his cloture vote and will be confirmed Shortly.

    Two More Appeals Judges were voted out of committee today, along with 6 other District Nominees. Several US attorneys(Chicago) and many Ambassadors were moved forward including those for Germany and France.

    Grassley and McConnell did excellent work today

  11. NYCmike says:

    From the stories my brother and his wife (they are over-55) tell me about The Villages down in Florida, my sister-in-law has had to say something to older women who were getting a little aggressive how they spoke to him/her….and the situation was done with.

    In no way is Bush 41’s actions anywhere close to what Weinstein, and others, have done.

    Let’s keep things in perspective.

  12. Jonesy says:

    Agree Mike. But for W Bush to roast Trump in NYC on morals, and then turn a blind eye to his own family, fired me up

  13. Tina says:

    The bushes have no moral authority.

    I think the president got this behavior by hanging around bj.

  14. Mr.Vito says:

    The Hampton Poll is 29-25 Democrat in Party ID.
    The rest are independent/else/refused.
    They lean 49-37 Republican.

    The poll gives McCauliffe 52-38 approval
    and gives Trump 39-56 approval.

  15. NYCmike says:

    “But for W Bush to roast Trump in NYC on morals,”

    -Dubya should have given Trump the same respect he gave Obama, and kept his trap shut for 8 more years.

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Trump apologists who made excuses for Trump’s disgusting comment and dismissed every allegation against his behavior attack 93 year old GHWB.

  17. Jonesy says:

    Wow. McConnell just filed cloture votes for 4 more Appeals courts nominees Larson, Barrett, Bibas, and Eid. 4 Separate Courts. should be confirmed by next week.

    Outstanding

  18. Bitterlaw says:

    Jonesy – You think Trump has morals? His comments about women were ok to you?

  19. BayernFan says:

    41 may be experiencing dementia. When that happens it is not uncommon for men to lose sexual inhibitions and act and speak in ways that they would have never acted or spoken before.

  20. Jonesy says:

    Bitter, you have it all wrong. Point is, that the Bush family portrays themselves as moral Gods. Groping and DUI’s no biggie

    They are hypocrites. My point

  21. BayernFan says:

    BL actually folks are attacking the hypocrisy of the Trump detractors. That’s the way I see it anyway. Same thing with the Weinstein scandal.

  22. Jonesy says:

    Trump does not have morals, but his political policy does. A protector of Religious freedom is aces to me

  23. Jonesy says:

    To end the HW Bush debate. He is a world War 2 hero and very old man. A former CIC too. He is a good man.

    I just hate the rest of his fraudulent family right now

  24. Jonesy says:

    Get this. Senate Dems allowed McConnell to fast track 4 Circuit Judge nominees today, in exchange for getting Friday off.

    Lazy bums. LOL. I will take it

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    There were stories about Trump being handsy? Did you dismiss all of them, Jonesy?

  26. Jonesy says:

    Bay, how about update on the Ind Senate race for 2018?

  27. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is on his third wife. He can’t be a saint.

  28. DW says:

    27 – its worse than that I fear. Keep it in context….

    Billionaire (who can buy the wifey whatever she asks for) Trump is on his third wife.

    Many women can put up with a lot as long as the mink coat, limitless cash and the lifestyle of the rich and famous go with it.

    Trump had two who found it to not be worth it.

  29. Jonesy says:

    27. agreed. Well Said. as I said, i am not defending Trump’s morals, but his politics.

    In contrast Bush family flaunts their own morals, but are really as sleazy as Trump can be.

  30. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    Of course, you will dismiss that because you think this story somehow exonerates Trump. It does not.
    ——————–

    WTH? Can you not see anything passed Trump? The guy lives in your head.

    For the record, I don’t give a s**t about this story whatsoever. This is the first time I even mentioned it.

    I dislike of Bush Sr. extends to allowing the Rockefeller/Corporate wing of the party to dominate the leadership for 30 years, not because of who’s booty he pinched.

  31. Jonesy says:

    DW, notice the Children of all 3 wives proudly stood with him on election Night.

    A Good Father, and a bad Husband. and Yes Reagan was divorced also

  32. Jonesy says:

    W Bush opened the door for a disaster like Obama. Never forgive him for that

  33. JC says:

    I would like to meet the HHR poster who proudly claims that Trump is a righteous moral figure descended from the heavens to show us plebs the light.

    Certainly, there must be tons of them. Or at least, that’s what Bitter seems to think.

  34. Tina says:

    Democr@cy Corpse is still in biz?

  35. Bitterlaw says:

    I would like to see some Trump supporters admit that he is a scumbag as a person.

  36. janz says:

    “However, his unyielding support for one of the most vile human beings ever elected President is a complete mystery to me “

    Bitter (re: #1396 in the previous thread),

    I could not help but notice your repeated rebuke of Trump, followed by a surprise at those who appear to “overlook” what you call his “vileness.” However, in recalling comments here, I do remember people routinely calling him out on his strong language, verbal punches, seemingly counter-productive stances/approaches and the like.

    But, among those annoying twitter rants and intra party feuds there has been a slow turning of the social progressive wheel back to at least an awareness of this country’s constitutional ideals and perimeters. For instance, legislatively, the DACA EO, unconstitutional insurance healthcare subsidies, and a non-renewal of the Iran executive agreement have all been thrown back for legislative review, hopefully improvement and implementation by Congress (where they belong). More conservative jurists are being nominated to the some 100 vacancies to be filled — albeit very slowly. Business regulation is being dialed back with business optimism growing. Food stamps, UE have gone down. The attacks on free speech are being challenged. The ISIS crisis is being addressed more fully, with the loosening of our military’s rules of engagement. The VA’s issues are being actively remedied. And, today, Trump accentuated the opioid epidemic by officially calling it a national crisis, with attention directed!to preventing addiction by reducing trafficking, initial exposure, encouraging the production of non-addictive pain-killers etc. This was a public speech given by a “vile” man who neither drinks nor takes drugs — go figure!

    In the meantime Trump’s presidency is challenging all kinds of political norms and practices. Through the political chaos people are seeing, more clearly, the MSM’s dishonest, operative ties to the dems, the FBI’s/Obama Administration’s complicity in the Clinton email scandals, Clapper, Comey, Brennen collusion, scrutiny of the Russian connections to Podesta, the Fusion GPS/Clinton campaign/DNC ties to the now discredited Trump Dossier, and how it led to the under-the-radar unmasking of over 250 citizens, spied on the republican nominee’s campaign, eventually evolving (or more appropriately devolving) into the Mueller criminal investigation. BTW, the WTJ is now saying Mueller should resign.

    But, let’s get back to how vile the current president is, leaving the rest of the DC landscape to wallow around in it’s own self-generated political muck, so we can turn the country back over to the social progressives in the coming 2018 midterms. That must be what you want, Bitter.

  37. jason says:

    Trump is on his third wife”

    Really? At 4 PM? He should be in the Oval Office working.

    NYC to defend him in 3, 2, 1…..

  38. janz says:

    WTJ should be WSJ….

  39. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has been married to Melania for 12 years… when McCain is mentioned he is defended as having been married for 36 years.

    So can we all come with a number of years of marriage after which it no longer matters that have been divorced? It would be a big help.

    Thanks.

  40. Tina says:

    I do not care about his previous marriages. Not relevant for me.

  41. Mr.Vito says:

    Clearly it is somewhere between 12 and 36…

  42. Tina says:

    It just seems, janz, that some posters cannot get past the 2016 election.

    Move on.

  43. BayernFan says:

    26. Rokits is trying to position himself as the pro-Trump outsider vs Messer the insider. Messer’s wife got into some hot water being paid six figures for a do-nothing corporate position. What is interesting to me is that this is going to be a mud fight between two guys who are alum of the same small college…Wabash College….an all male college In Indiana. (I am an alum as well). In such a fight, I don’t know who has the edge at this point.

    There is another potential candidate….. the state’s AG Curtis Hill who hated a couple months ago that he may get in the race. He is AA and from northern Indiana.

    I think the money will flow to Rokita and Messer. Messer has the support of Pence’s brother but some Trump folks have backed Rokita.

    Whoever is nominated should have a good chance of unseating Donnelly should he receive unified backing and financing like Todd Young (who was a complete unknown statewide) did.

  44. Tina says:

    Bayer, it would not surprise me, they say it is parkinsons. With that said, his famiky needs to intervene.

    I would doubt claims of sexual assaults when he was younger.

  45. jason says:

    Janz is still making excuses for Trump, some things never change. None of the points she made in her long post serves as an excuse IMO.

    Bitter can be right about him, and Janz can be right that there is a bigger picture.

    Where I can support him in the bigger picture, I will. But long winded, convoluted and tortuous excuses and justifications seem ridiculous at this point.

  46. Bitterlaw says:

    Even Janz is willing to give Trump a free pass on his personal behavior. Well, HHR truly has no conscience any more.

    How about this? Trump is a vile scumbag. No matter what he does as President, whether it is good or bad, he will remain a vile scumbag. Deal?

  47. Tina says:

    If you want somebody with morals, elect the pope.

  48. Tina says:

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    Yeah, what could be worse?

  49. Wobbles says:

    Trump Job Approval- 41/55″

    Trash it. Any poll showing Trump over 40% should be trashed, because it doesn’t fit my narrative.

    I hope you understand, nothing personal.

  50. BayernFan says:

    Actually Jennifer Messer received $580k from a well off Indianapolis suburb for legal work that she apparently didn’t do too much of. That is the controversy.

  51. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I can see being married twice without any issue (although I have told my wife that I would prefer that she kill me rather than divorce me if she wants out). Three times with two divorces? That is a messed up life.

  52. jason says:

    Rape, sexual harassment, groping, sex with interns in the Oval Office, lying under oath?

    Nah…..

  53. BayernFan says:

    Tina my dad had symptoms of dementia that I think stemmed from mini strokes. He was saying all kinds of weird chit about stuff that was totally out of character.

  54. BayernFan says:

    Trump has the kavorka apparently. Not his fault.

  55. Tina says:

    It makes sense, i can excuse the behavior of bush, but cannot look past his family support doing nothing.

    They let a sick man down.

  56. Wes says:

    I’m not upset at what GHWB did. That said, I have to say GWB is a goddamn hypocrite for attacking after spending right years silrnt while Obama was President.

    One eiyher respects the office or does not. Clearly GWB does not as evidenced by his sillingness to attack the current President for the cardinsl sin of beating the next Bush in line for the presidency.

    Good riddance to that incredibly overrated political family.

  57. Wes says:

    I’m glad to see Gillespie has a lead. Winning this seat will probably quell rumors of the GOP’s impending 2018 demise.

  58. jason says:

    Even Janz is willing to give Trump a free pass on his personal behavior.”

    Even Janz? She ran interference for him for the entire campaign. There was literally NOTHING he could do that would offend her or that she would consider morally reprehensible.

    Nothing has changed. And now she does not even have the excuse that calling him out could hurt his chances of winning.

    This is not to say that Trump is not the victim of the most sordid and dishonest MSM campaign in the history of politics. He is, and its disgusting. But where the wounds are self inflicted, you can’t blame the media.

  59. Mr.Vito says:

    “Mr. Vito – I can see being married twice without any issue (although I have told my wife that I would prefer that she kill me rather than divorce me if she wants out). Three times with two divorces? That is a messed up life.”

    I know men who have been divorced twice and both times his spouse cheated and didn’t even fight custody. I know men who are divorced once that are total a$$holes.

    But, thanks for giving a rubric address my question. Divorce once shame on you… divorce twice shame on me.

  60. Tina says:

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/26/politics/john-podesta-debbie-wasserman-schultz-trump-dossier/index.html

    Lock them up.

    No doubt creepy podesta knew, but wasserman fugly may not have known. She is that dumb

  61. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump has the kavorka apparently. Not his fault.”

    Maybe he uses AXE body products.

  62. Mr.Vito says:

    “I’m glad to see Gillespie has a lead.”

    Those two approval ratings make me think the poll is not dismissable outright. I doubt he will win by 8 points, though. What do you think?

  63. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    Mr. Vito – I can see being married twice without any issue (although I have told my wife that I would prefer that she kill me rather than divorce me if she wants out). Three times with two divorces? That is a messed up life.
    ————————

    There’s a lot of people like that. Especially when some people get married really young for a variety of reasons from being lonely to having an unexpected baby.

    My Mom had three different children to three different men. The first was a dirtbag that knocked her up and then fled the state after he found out she was pregnant. The second tried to make it work but they ultimately split up (at least he paid child support). The third has been married to my mother for 21 years.

    Is that a ‘messed up life’? Eh, maybe. But to suggest that these people are morally bad is ridiculous, and shows your complete lack of empathy. My mom went through hell to raise us and give us the best opportunity possible.

    Sorry Bitter. We can’t all have marry sue lives.

  64. JC says:

    So, who was the Republican who paid for the Pee Dossier?

    My guess is Jeb.

  65. Mr.Vito says:

    Can someone check GHWBs apology?

    When I skimmed it, he said he was sorry and that it was a poor attempt at humor. He did not say he couldn’t help himself because of dementia. That could be the case, but I think the women that complained deserve that explanation rather than saying it was just a poor attempt at humor, which I think isn’t much different than saying ‘it’s just locker room talk’.

  66. Tina says:

    Maybe, rubin or another bushbot can give an explanation.

  67. NYCmike says:

    #17 Jonesy,

    This is one reason why I totally disagree with Robbie’s DOOM! act…..it is not even November 2017, still another year for the Republican Congress to actually do their job, and send conservative-oriented legislation to Trump to sign.

  68. Bitterlaw says:

    Being married is the easiest thing in the world if you just follow a few simple rules:

    1. No cheating. Ever.

    2. If you can be home at night, be home at night.

    3. No hitting. Ever.

    4. No substance abuse.

    5. Don’t marry Wes.

    22 years and counting for me. Ridiculously easy.

  69. Mr.Vito says:

    My recollection is that the actress was also told not to stand next to the President… again, that is not satisfactory to someone who may be about to get groped.

  70. Wes says:

    I think Gillespie can take it by one to four points, Vito. Northam has been cruising, and the latest Dem attack was outright reprehensible.

    If Gillespie can gin up turnout in Outstate VA and hold Northam to -8 in NoVA, then Gillespie will win.

  71. Mr.Vito says:

    Okay, there was a second apology furthering for the first one.

    “At age 93, President Bush has been confined to a wheelchair for roughly five years, so his arm falls on the lower waist of people with whom he takes pictures. To try to put people at ease, the president routinely tells the same joke — and on occasion, he has patted women’s rears in what he intended to be a good-natured manner. Some have seen it as innocent; others clearly view it as inappropriate. To anyone he has offended, President Bush apologizes most sincerely.”

  72. Mr.Vito says:

    To anyone whose rear I pat, I’m sorry if you were offended…

  73. Wes says:

    I was accused of patting a woman’s backside once. Her husband threatened me because of it.

    Why exactly she said I did that I will never know because not only did I never touch her, but I also never, to be quite charitable, found her remotely attractive.

  74. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not think that Wes would ever touch a women without her consent.

    I also have no doubt that he preys upon emotionally scarred women who will consent.

  75. Wes says:

    Prescott Bush must be causing whirlwinds from his grave. His son is having to apologize about groping women in his 90s. His two grandsons are like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum and still haven’t gotten over the younger one’s failure to perpetuate their dynasty’s tenure in the White House.

  76. Bitterlaw says:

    To anyone whose rear I pat, I’m sorry if you were offended…

    It took a long time for you to say it but I accept your non-apology. It was not your fault when MD had his hand in you.

  77. Wes says:

    No means no, Bitter.

    “Don’t touch me” means just that.

    Anything indicating consent is fair game.

  78. DW says:

    73 – yesterday I said Gillespie by 1-3 points. Obviously 4 would be better.

    Here is what to expect on election night:

    Polls close 7 pm

    Gillespie will jump out to an early lead, running up the score in western rural areas of state.

    Analysts checking the numbers will say he isn’t quite getting Trump numbers out there which doesn’t bode well for him.

    Then Northern VA starts to finally come in, and they might point out that Northam isn’t exactly killing it in Northern VA like expected, and in the end the rural push gets Gillespie the win.

    But make no mistake, if rural voters stay home in any significant way, Gillespie can lose.

    But I am pretty confident Gillespie will do better by far in DC suburbs of VA than Trump did, and will get enough in the rural areas to pull through.

  79. Mr.Vito says:

    “It was not your fault when MD had his hand in you.”

    You knew! You knew for years and said nothing!!

  80. Mr.Vito says:

    I don’t think Wes has a problem just finding someone else who will say yes.

  81. Wes says:

    Gillespie needs field offices everywhere, DW–even in the belly of the beast, Fairfax.

  82. NYCmike says:

    janz,

    Well written and thought out, as usual.

    It seems jason is still sensitive about you consistently making more sense in the past year and a half, especially in regards to whether or not to support an imperfect candidate (NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY!) in Trump or to take your ball and go home.

  83. DW says:

    84 – I think he has them…I have been in VA for many elections now, and this race I have been contacted more than any other.

  84. Wes says:

    That’s good to know, DW. Well as Jerry Moran did in 2014, he should have taken a peek at VA. Warner clearly knew he was in trouble and worked furiously the last day to avoid defeat. Had the NRSC put some late respurces into VA, thrn Gillespie would be Senator now.

  85. NYCmike says:

    As certain posters have mentioned, the hero himself, John McCain, divorced his wife back in 1980.

    SURPRISINGLY (in the run-up to the election!), the media did a story on this, in 2008:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

    “For nearly 30 years, Carol has maintained a dignified silence about the accident, McCain and their divorce. But last week at the bungalow where she now lives at Virginia Beach, a faded seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, she told The Mail on Sunday how McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later.”

  86. Tina says:

    Yeah, his family has blamed the secret service.

    They need to intervene and be the enforcer.

  87. NYCmike says:

    The rest of the link explains some of the other circumstances……tough for any man and/or woman to deal with, BUT……

  88. Mr.Vito says:

    Just as an aside, this Hampton poll has Virginians opposing the removal of Confederate statues 62-31, so I don’t think that was as big a problem for Corey Stewart (sp?) as some made it out to be.

  89. janz says:

    I’m not giving anyone a free pass for distasteful behavior. What I am doing is weighing the past 10 months of EOs, cabinet selections, and policy considerations that are reversing some of Obama’s social progressive policies, vs what people cite as the vulgar behavior of the current president.

    Furthermore, what options do we really have at the moment? Do we blow this president out of the water, because of his rude, disruptive language? Or, do we move beyond his uncomfortable demeanor, focusing more on what he is constructively doing to improve the country? Also, giving credence to the latter is not a pass for dislikeable behavior. It’s a choice, making a judgement call as to what consideration is more important — the fiscal,social, constitutional benefits of a particular presidency, or virtue-signal how vile you think a president’s words are?

    BTW, while Trump’s public behavior grinds on people’s conscience, what about the private behavior of Clinton, Kennedy, LBJ, FDR, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt? All of these past presidents were graded by a Pew Poll as having large degrees of narcissism, with LBJ having “grandiose narcissism.” Plus, going back into presidential biographies, slave owners, drunks, adulterers, all have occupied the oval office in the past. IOW, perfect people do not necessarily embody the persona of our past presidents — nor, probably those who will occupy the office in the future.

  90. Mr.Vito says:

    I should point out again, that I received direct mailers in the final weeks of election 2016 from the RNC/Trump. I never got such from Romney or McCain. I don’t know what the RNC was doing exactly, but it seems they clearly decided to target certain registered Democrats, and it probably paid off.

    I was also called by the Clinton campaign to ask if Hillary could count on my vote. It was a bit awkward because I had it on speaker, and my wife started guffawing.

  91. Redmen4ever says:

    In that Hampton University poll showing Gillespie [R] 8 points ahead of Northam [D]

    1. 62 to 31 percent OPPOSE removing Confederate statues and memorials

    2. 53 to 36 percent OPPOSE sanctuary cities

    3. 3 out of 750 consider themselves to be “other” on the male or female question. 2 others “don’t know.”

  92. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – In many ways, Trump is a “social progressive” in his personal life. He has no respect for marriage and has been a man-whore most of his life.

  93. Tina says:

    Josh Caplan @joshdcaplan
    NBC NEWS: Release of JFK files may be delayed as intelligence agencies failed to inform President Trump which files should be kept secret
    1:28 PM – O

    Deep state.

  94. jason says:

    Once when I was bent over looking for the last bottle of Grey Goose (where I had stashed it hidden from MD) in the A-hole Clubhouse Bitter came into the cellar and said “what’s up A-hole”?

    I didn’t report it but since he was Governor and I was Lt Governor there could be several interpretations to the question.

    I don’t want to sully Bitter’s fine legacy so let’s pretend I didn’t bring it up.

  95. NYCmike says:

    “I should point out again, that I received direct mailers in the final weeks of election 2016 from the RNC/Trump.”

    -(Just to make Robbie’s head explode)

    This MUST HAVE BEEN due to the advice of Steve Bannon and KellyAnne Conway!

  96. Wes says:

    Bitter acts as if 95 is a bad thing.

  97. jason says:

    BTW, while Trump’s public behavior grinds on people’s conscience, what about the private behavior of Clinton, Kennedy, LBJ, FDR, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt?”

    Oh puhleeeze… not the old “other did it too” excuses…

    Stick to there is a “bigger picture” here, I agree with that, even if it makes me one of Wobbie’s Trump Chumps.

    “uncomfortable demeanor,”

    LOL, is all that it is?

    I love this place.

  98. jason says:

    Teddy Roosevelt”

    Well I guess we could go back to Atila the Hun.

    I hear he was a real womanizer.

    Genghis Khan?

    Let’s give Trump a pass here, after all Atila and Genghis had “uncomfortable demeanors” too.

  99. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    LoL @ Janz. 95% that’s copied and pasted from some far right forum. And easily disected and disproven. Every single line.

    But if you’re that stupid to believe it, you’re too stupid to listen to reason.

  100. Bitterlaw says:

    What Jason left out of his tale was that he responded, “Can you get down here and help me dig around for the A-hole’s secret?”

    I thought that we covered this in the non-disclosure agreement.

  101. Tina says:

    In presser, sarah sanders clims that the mueller investigation is concluding.

    I do not see how he can look into the dossier or of more concern, uranium 1

  102. jason says:

    In many ways, Trump is a “social progressive” in his personal life.”

    He described himself as “very pro-choice” and furthermore “very pro-choice in EVERY respect” when asked about partial birth abortion.

    But hey, when he ran for the R nomination at almost 70 he had this profound change of conscience that had nothing to do with politics.

    You have to respect that kind of thing.

  103. mnw says:

    I saw a license plate frame today which read:

    “AFSCME
    We Make Illinois Happen!”

    EXACTLY. Iowahawk couldn’t improve on that.

  104. jason says:

    What Jason left out of his tale was that he responded, “Can you get down here and help me dig around for the A-hole’s secret?”

    I thought that we covered this in the non-disclosure agreement.”

    I left open the possibility of various interpretations.

  105. jason says:

    I have just registered “Let’s Make HHR Great Again” in the annals.

    Yes, it can be leased.

  106. janz says:

    Bitter,

    Trump sits in the oval office, as of today. All of his non-virtuous, liberal-oriented past will make great fodder for anti–Trump biographers. However, if he can roll back some of the damage inflicted on us by Obama’s ideologically-run administration, I will be grateful.

    Essentially, my concerns are concentrated on what positive results his unorthodox leadership can achieve, putting aside any judgments regarding the merits of his previous personal, political proclivities.

  107. jason says:

    Anything indicating consent is fair game.”

    Dang, so “do you want another slice of pizza” could open all sorts of possibilities?

  108. jason says:

    However, if he can roll back some of the damage inflicted on us by Obama’s ideologically-run administration, I will be grateful.”

    Me too.

  109. jason says:

    2 others “don’t know.”

    This could be a new category.

  110. Tina says:

    TINgles has stated that his fellow drats blew it on the dossier

  111. janz says:

    Head of the IRS John Koskiner will leave in November, yielding to David Kautter, as an interim leader of the IRS.

    It’s about time!

  112. Bitterlaw says:

    If Trump nails an intern, Janz is going to post “I am glad that President Trump remained in the Oval Office to focus on the nation’s business while indulging in his less savory personal pursuits.”

  113. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not want Trump to fail. I just expect him to. I am trying to resume my indifference.

  114. Mr.Vito says:

    “I do not want Trump to fail.”

    What would constitute failure?

  115. Bitterlaw says:

    If Trump turns out to be a great President, I will post “The vile scumbag was a great President.”

    However, if he is a weak or ineffective President, his vocal supporters will post, “Through no fault of his own, the great President Trump was prevented from being super awesome.”

  116. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – It is like obscenity. I will know it when I see it.

  117. Mr.Vito says:

    Okay, to some, beating Hillary and not causing an apocalypse might be success.

  118. DW says:

    Media after yesterday’s revelation:

    Russia? Say that a little slower please…Ru-ss-ia? You say its a country somewhere? I am not sure we ever heard of Russia…are you sure its not some place in America plagued by homelessness, poverty, and suffering the ravages of global warming brought about by the failure of Republicans to have compassion on the most defenseless among us?

  119. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzz. More JFK documents will be released.

    I am less interested in who killed Kennedy (Oswald acted alone) than on the minutes of the 1963 meetings that set up the Deep State to protect then 2 year old Barack Obama’s health care plan if then 17 year old Donald Trump was elected President.

  120. lisab says:

    In no way is Bush 41’s actions anywhere close to what Weinstein, and others, have done.
    ——————

    what bush did is far worse

    and completely excuses the hollywood elite

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – Did you avoid the stalker today?

  122. Mr.Vito says:

    “Did you avoid the stalker today?”

    GHWB? or that other guy?

  123. BayernFan says:

    LHO acted alone in killing JFK. There…now no one is missing anything with the document release delay.

  124. Tina says:

    Nunes

    Clinto, russian dossier biggest intelligence failure since 9/11

    Cavuto report.

  125. Mr.Vito says:

    “intelligence failure”

    That’s a nice way to put it.

  126. Robbie says:

    Great news. Bannon and his allies are already have the knives out for Martha McSally if she decides to run for Arizona Senate.

    God forbid someone who could win might run. We need one of NYCMike’s “Send a message” candidates who will lose a winnable seat.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-run/articles/2017-10-26/martha-mcsally-looks-in-line-to-battle-kelli-ward-in-arizona-senate-race

  127. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    October 26, 2017 at 3:21 pm
    The bushes have no moral authority.
    I think the president got this behavior by hanging around bj.

    – How long ago were you diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury?

  128. Tina says:

    Nunes deserves a raise for cracking this. Scam.

  129. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    October 26, 2017 at 4:07 pm
    Trump Job Approval- 41/55?
    Trash it. Any poll showing Trump over 40% should be trashed, because it doesn’t fit my narrative.
    I hope you understand, nothing personal.

    – Poor Jason. Still hiding behind fake screen names. If you’re going to use a fake name, at least go with something like “Rubio lover”.

    Gallup has President Moron at 37% today. So sorry it and several others don’t fit your cherry picking.

  130. Tina says:

    Scott walker , claims his campaign had nothing to do with the dosier.

    Again, timeline is wrong, no r had an involvement.

  131. Tina says:

    They may have employed fusion, but they did not hire steele. Steel and dossier came coicidenralky in june around fisa.

  132. Robbie says:

    JC says:
    October 26, 2017 at 4:37 pm
    So, who was the Republican who paid for the Pee Dossier?
    My guess is Jeb.

    – Cruz most likely or Rubio’s (unbeknownst to him) dark money superpac. Bush’s pac has already released their books to show they didn’t pay for it. Sorry to burst your bubble.

  133. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Nunes will be in jail within 5 years. Ignorance is not a defense.

  134. Tina says:

    Steele hired in june of 2016 by hillary.

    Dossier did not exist until shortly thereafter.

    While an r may have hired fusion, the relationship ended in april of 2016.

    Minor important details.

  135. Tina says:

    Apparently, prior to the Washington Post revealing the DNC and Clinton Campaign paid for the “Russian Dossier”, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (DNC) and John Podesta (campaign) testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee they knew nothing about who and how the Steele Dossier was financed…

    Yikes, perjury trap.

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope Trump was involved with dossier. Watching Tina justify it would be fascinating.

    Having said that, I do not believe Trump was involved.

  137. Tina says:

    Well your hypothesis is incorrect as usual, and you admitted that you knew nuffin about it.

    Why dont you make another dumb list.

  138. Bitterlaw says:

    It was not a hypothesis. It was a hope. Too many lemoncellos, Tina?

  139. Bitterlaw says:

    My list was pretty good. Only NYC and mnw wanted new categories (I dispute NYC’s self-made category).

  140. jason says:

    – Poor Jason. Still hiding behind fake screen names.?

    Poor Wobbie, the only one on this blog who doesn’t know I post as Wobbles (as do a couple others).

    And shhhh, don’t tell anybody I post as Soccer Moron, New York City, Nostradamus…. it could blow my cover.

  141. NYCmike says:

    “Gallup has President Moron at 37% today. So sorry it and several others don’t fit your cherry picking.”

    Which poster on HHR is dismissing polling data about Trump? I know I am not.

    BUT, I also am NOT thinking that polling data is as reliable as Robbie thinks in determining election results for next year.

  142. jason says:

    Nunes will be in jail within 5 years.”

    Dumb troll wants to shoot the messenger?

    How original!

  143. Bitterlaw says:

    Ravens-Dolphins is pretty bad so far.

  144. jason says:

    NYC, just follow this high level criteria by Wobbie.

    41% poll, trash it.

    37% poll, very reliable.

  145. Bitterlaw says:

    All the polls are wrong!

    The classic HHR mantra. How long before they are re Weighted?

  146. jason says:

    While an r may have hired fusion, the relationship ended in april of 2016.”

    Important distinction which Dems are ignoring with their “well Rs hired him also”.

    Hiring for opposition research does not mean hiring for the dossier.

  147. Tina says:

    No, reading too much stupidity from you.

  148. mnw says:

    Yes, thx for re-assigning me BL. As I said, I got BANNED at Lucianne for being mean to the Trump enthusiasts there.

    I got BANNED at RRH for calling former Miss America [somebody] Herald a jerk for launching her political career by primarying GOP Rep. Rodney Davis, for no reason whatsoever– except that he was in Miss America’s way.

    I got BANNED from Ace of Spades for calling one of their moderators an arrogant ignorant azalea.

    I regard each of these BANS as a badge of honor. I re-registered at all of them, btw.

    I guess our host Dave here is just too busy to BAN me, for which I am grateful.

  149. Wobbles says:

    How long before they are re Weighted?”

    I can’t let him get past 42%, so I will start weighing around that number.

    Anything over 42% and its obvious they are underweighting people that don’t accept the results of the election.

  150. Tina says:

    Yeah, its a distinction. The dossier did not exist until steele created it, using russian sources. This hapoened in june of 2016. Any r involvment with fusion ended in april. No dossier existed at that time.

    Clinton paid for it as did the fbi.

    The fbi may have used it for fisa.

    If true, we have a crisis on our hands.

    Follow the popcorn because mueller knows all of this.

  151. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    I thought you wanted Mueller gone?

  152. jason says:

    I got banned at the Llama Cooking Blog for suggesting you could add scrapple to the stew.

  153. Tina says:

    Pers9nally no, but i just do not see how he hangs on given invovlement in uranium 1. While not a committee memver, he was fbi director.

  154. Tina says:

    Given the information I read, no way does mueller get interviewed by trump the day before a hoax sc is formed.

    No way.

  155. Tina says:

    By what i am hearing, the mueller investigation is ending.

    No way to have 19drat lawyahs investigate potential tax matters involving the creepy podestas or manatan. Cheaper for the irs to do it.

  156. Tina says:

    And if manafort, or others are charged for questionable financing, it has nothing to do with muh russian,

    I despise tax cheats.

  157. jason says:

    Yeah, this game sucks.

  158. jason says:

    The one conclusion I have arrived at reading all the posts and articles about what Mueller is thinking is that nobody really knows what he is thinking.

    I hope he is honest enough not to feel obligated to come up with something if there is nothing. That takes courage.

    I hope he is not a Lawrence Walsh, who made an ass of himself at the end of his career.

  159. Tina says:

    Ny, mueller will have to soon disclose his spending. 19lawyahs is too expensive. I am sure congress will not be happy, particularly the house. The senate loces spending.

  160. NYCmike says:

    I need yards, and maybe a TD, from Ajayi, and several FG’s from Tucker.

    Other than that, no worries about the quality.

  161. jason says:

    Btw, what happened to Bunu?

    Did he finally join ISIS?

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry I don’t worship Trump, Tina. Actually, I’m not sorry. I’m sorry that you worship him. I suspected that NYC would fall for his act. I expected more from you.

  163. NYCmike says:

    OK, just a lot of twists and turns have been speculated.

  164. Tina says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    October 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm
    Sorry I don’t worship Trump, Tina. Actually, I’m not sorry. I’m sorry that you worship him. I suspected that NYC would fall for his act. I expected more from you.

    Irrelevant to the dossier.

  165. Tina says:

    Of more i portance perhaps is that comedy is no longer fbi director. An imcompetent bufoon.

    Finds no wrong doing in the 2014 irs scandal that republicans failed to act upon. Doj today finds wromgdoing.

  166. jason says:

    Ny, mueller will have to soon disclose his spending. 19lawyahs is too expensive. I am sure congress will not be happy, particularly the house. The senate loces spending.”

    It will cost millions but nobody really cares, its a drop in the bucket.

    And I am not sure being critical of his spending is the right way to go anyway.

  167. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina is mad now. I guess she will not forward my resume so I can earn, according to her post yesterday, $1.4 million per year working for Mueller.

  168. jason says:

    Wow, that kick would have been good for 70 yards.

  169. Tina says:

    Well severwl house members have said the spending wont be open ended.

  170. NYCmike says:

    “I suspected that NYC would fall for his act.”

    -What act?

    The one where he picks a good cabinet, where he uses that “list” for judges, where he uses the Executive Branch in a proper Constitutional manner?

    Ok, I fell for THAT act.

  171. NYCmike says:

    5 points!

  172. Tina says:

    TIna is mad now…

    No, just amazed at how off topic you can get, tou started with the dossier, which you stated tou knew nothing about, to mentioning loyalty to trump, or whatever.

    If tou know nothing about the dossier, you may want to read up on it and then comment again later.

  173. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    He is doing that a lot lately.

  174. NYCmike says:

    Cheers.

  175. jason says:

    Comey seems in the end to have been like a don’t rock the boat/CYA kind of guy. It’s always about him, his thought process, how he comes across, how he wrestles with issues, blah, blah, blah.

    When he wrote the Hillary letter, it was not because he was concerned about national security, it was about how he would be perceived if the sh-t hit the fan after the election. Same with the Clinton/Lynch tarmac meeting, it was not the content but the perceptions that were important.

  176. Tina says:

    I do not know why he is doing that. Bl is too bright for that and like i said, he seems like an hinest attorney, in a profession that, true or untrue, has a poor reputation.

  177. Bitterlaw says:

    The kick just went over my house. It is hooking towards Lititz.

  178. Tina says:

    Comedys proble is clearing hillary without first conducting an investigation. Well documented that he had a draft letter clearing hillary from the get go.

    Maybe he is a cya guy, maybe he is crooked. His cya enhances his crook abilities.

    Clearly incimpetent.

  179. jason says:

    I also think he took a lot of bad advice before those hearings.

    He should have taken a much lower profile and refused to be a pawn of the Democrats.

  180. Tina says:

    REps,de santis and steve king have indicated that they will pull funding and choke off the. Sc.

  181. Bitterlaw says:

    I know about the dossier. What I said months ago is that all the facts about it were not known. That is still true but more information is coming out.

    As for your loyalty to Trump, that is well known and not in doubt.

  182. jason says:

    It is hooking towards Lititz.

    Rumors are it damaged the Schwartz barn over in Bird-in-Hand.

  183. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Loyalist Playbook – If somebody does not worship Trump or follow him without question, immediately question his intelligence and integrity.

  184. jason says:

    REps,de santis and steve king have indicated that they will pull funding and choke off the. Sc.”

    We’ll see. I don’t think that will happen.

  185. Bitterlaw says:

    How did the Dolphins win any games this season?

  186. Bitterlaw says:

    Let’s make a deal, Tina. I will say 2 positive things about Trump. Can you say 2 negative things about him?

    1. His judicial nominations appear to be good choices.

    2. He has not contributed to any Senate Democrats this year.

    Your turn.

  187. jason says:

    I hear there is a 54 tome encyclopedia coming out… “How to Sell Trump as a Conservative – Rising to the Challenge”.

  188. jason says:

    Fight!

  189. jason says:

    One day somebody’s head will be in one of those helmets flying around.

  190. jason says:

    He has not contributed to any Senate Democrats this year.”

    Yeah, probably some Senate Dems will benefit next year when they beat some deadenders.

  191. Bitterlaw says:

    So far on the Dolphins:

    Former Eagles kicker misses field goal.

    Former Eagles linebacker gives Flacco a concussion and should have been ejected.

    The good news is that they are FORMER Eagles.

  192. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina can’t come up with 2 negative things about Donald Trump.

    I will leave it. Unlike NYC, I will not ask Tina every 20 seconds.

  193. Mr.Vito says:

    Can you come up with a second one that isn’t a backhanded jab?

  194. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I will when Tina posts one negative thing about Trump. I do have one.

  195. Mr.Vito says:

    Good deal.

  196. Bitterlaw says:

    Tony Roma’s enthusiasm is really annoying.

  197. lisab says:

    lisab – Did you avoid the stalker today?
    ——————————————-

    he was not there today.

    but i also went at a different time than i have been going

  198. Ron N says:

    My question is how many of those facts on the dossier was feed to steel from the obama administration. Seem odd about same time line for both to have information. With all the jfk conspiracies why not.

  199. lisab says:

    LHO acted alone in killing JFK.
    ———————————–

    you rethugs would like us to think that …

    but … we all know that trump has ties to russia …

    the only reason they are not releasing ALL the documents is that they will show trump on the grassy knoll

  200. Tina says:

    I wont okay your game of stupidity, bl. So, to quote a blast from the past, no deal.

  201. Tina says:

    However, next time you want to discuss mueller, comedy, or the dossier, we can chat.

  202. lisab says:

    both the jeb campaign and the rubio campaign have expressed doubts that a gop donor funded the research

    both said that the campaigns were talking, but neither knew of any gop donor who funded the research

  203. Mr.Vito says:

    Cmon Tina… just one for me instead?

  204. Tina says:

    Lisab, see mymcomments above on the dossier.

    I am late for bingo night.

    Night gang.

  205. Mr.Vito says:

    I could see it being a strategist.

  206. Mr.Vito says:

    What would really blow this to the next level is if it was Paul Manafort.

  207. NYCmike says:

    “Former Eagles linebacker gives Flacco a concussion and should have been ejected.”

    -Coach Cowher and Neon Deion just came to the same conclusion with 2 different reasons…..agree with their reasons, disagree with the couch commentary.

  208. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina won’t play my game because she does not want to be disloyal to President Trump.

    Despite Tina’s failure, I will honor Mr. Vito’s request.

    I think it was a good move by Trump to put Christie in charge of the opi0id issue. He has been working on it in New Jersey, too.

  209. Mr.Vito says:

    Nice. I thought it might be asking Kelly Ayotte to help with SCOTUS.

  210. NYCmike says:

    “Tony Roma’s enthusiasm is really annoying.”

    -I do agree with this.

  211. lisab says:

    “Tina won’t play my game”

    pokemon?

  212. NYCmike says:

    Trump should have fired Comey on January 20th.

    Trump should have hired someone from outside Washington DC to do Mueller’s job.

  213. lisab says:

    I can see being married twice without any issue (although I have told my wife that I would prefer that she kill me rather than divorce me if she wants out). Three times with two divorces? That is a messed up life.
    ———————————

    meh … none of my business. especially since his ex-wives seem to hold no grudges and his children seem ok.

    he seems to be a serial monogamist

  214. Mr.Vito says:

    Those aren’t really negatives.

  215. NYCmike says:

    Trump was wrong to keep Comey.

    Trump was wrong to hire a DC creature to run the Comey affair.

  216. Mr.Vito says:

    Meh… those aren’t any better than not donating to Senate Dems being a positive.

  217. lisab says:

    two of the five accusers against Mark Halperin seem pretty weak

    he propositioned them.

    if propositioning a coworker, (once), is considered sexual harassment most women are going to be richer than midas himself.

    men (and i suppose women too) hit on their coworkers all the time. as long as they don’t continue when you say no, it is not a big deal.

    do we really want companies determining who you can date?

  218. lisab says:

    the other three he (allegedly) sexually assaulted

    so those were fair

    he should be fired for those

  219. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I made an honest effort. Tina and NYC just can’t criticize Trump.

  220. lisab says:

    Even Janz? She ran interference for him for the entire campaign. There was literally NOTHING he could do that would offend her or that she would consider morally reprehensible.
    ——————————————

    i seem to recall that for a while people were posting pictures of porn stars on this site

    and i don’t remember bitterlaw (or anyone else now complaining about trump) being terribly upset about it

  221. Bitterlaw says:

    My wife’s firm does not hire anybody married to a current employee.

  222. Tina says:

    Nobody cares about your stupid games and lists, bl.

    Have fun with it.

  223. Tina says:

    bingo night canceled, car wont start, and have to wait for 3as.

  224. NYCmike says:

    “Tina and NYC just can’t criticize Trump.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    If he makes a deal on DACA without getting Democrats to compromise on a major immigration plank of theirs, there will be plenty of criticism.

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    They were mostly clothed. I was offended by lisab posting pictures of Italian leather boots but I let it go.

  226. Tina says:

    I am popping over to see if I can find rottie and clinton groupie at another blog discussing fake conspiracies on jfk.

  227. Tina says:

    Btw, a 3rd victim of 41 just came out.

    Can that famiky do something to not put him in that position.

    Losahs.

  228. lisab says:

    “They were mostly clothed. ”

    mostly …

    mmmmmmmkay

  229. NYCmike says:

    Besides, the 2 things I posted are criticisms….you just don’t think they were strong enough.

  230. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Mr. Vito cares. GFY

    According to NYC, Trump has done nothing worthy of criticism yet. Only Jesus has that kind of track record.

  231. lisab says:

    i am very much against bill clinton’s personal behavior because he really damaged monica lewinski’s life … setting aside the unproven rape and statutory rape accusations that cannot be proven one way or another.

    but otherwise, so long as everyone is above the age of consent, and giving consent, i really don’t care what people do in the bedroom.

  232. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You were criticizing him for not doing a better job of protecting himself. Not exactly a substantive criticism.

  233. lisab says:

    Trump has done nothing worthy of criticism yet. Only Jesus has that kind of track record.
    ———————————–

    jesus did not bring any food to his big meeting except for 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread’

    not good planning on his part

  234. Bitterlaw says:

    We’ll see how lisab feels if her husbandstarting consenting with somebody else.

  235. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – You were criticizing him for not doing a better job of protecting himself. Not exactly a substantive criticism.”

    -I was criticizing him for relying on people who make/made their living in the swamp that is DC, and did so for Democrats and Bush.

  236. Mr.Vito says:

    Depends on how the propositioning occurred…

  237. Mr.Vito says:

    Meh… we want to hear a good criticism. Not the kind you hear from other Trump people.

  238. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito ruled NYC’s answers sucked.

  239. Tina says:

    Tina – Mr. Vito cares. GFY

    I dont care that he cares, so gfy right back at you.

  240. Tina says:

    I am sure it must more than the battery with my 1995 buick.

  241. lisab says:

    the interesting thing about the “feeding of the 5000”

    is that out of all those people only two had the foresight to bring any food …

    so, ok … good miracle, but on the other side there were 4998 idiots who had no foresight at all! and jesus … doesn’t make them learn a lesson from that…. it’s all fine … “i’ll just magic you up some bread and fish”

    he could have said, “you did not bring any food, of course there is not going to be any food .. think about it … plan next time! judea would be better if people planned.”

    but no … everyone now says, “oh it will all work out fine, jesus will whip us up some grub!”

    he should have said, “i’m going to get crucified one day and then what are you going to eat?”

  242. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito is a Democrat.
    He can’t be trusted.

  243. Tina says:

    My last car cost $8000. I am sure that prices are much higher now, right? I hate dealers and the sales staff.

  244. lisab says:

    We’ll see how lisab feels if her husbandstarting consenting with somebody else.
    —————————————–

    that would be between him and i

    it would be no business of yours

  245. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump should have said something like “It is tough to call loved ones of those who have died in our country’s service. It is not always done. I relayed my sympathies to Ms. Johnson in a way other families said they appreciated, and I am saddened to hear it did not bring comfort to her. Her husband is a hero, and we will try to answer her questions right away.”

    He can do better.

  246. Mr.Vito says:

    Now a positive…

    Trump has done a good job unshackling our military to wipe out ISIS.

  247. lisab says:

    Depends on how the propositioning occurred…
    ———————————————

    he basically asked them to have sex, not is so many words but it was implied.

    he asked one to come up to his hotel room … she said no.

    the other was similar. she also said no.

    now i grant you it is not a good colour on him, but just asking someone to come to your hotel room is sexual harassment? (assuming you are over 21 of course)

    the other incidents were much more serious, involving actual touching, so he should be fired for those.

  248. Bitterlaw says:

    If Mr. Vito approves, NYC can claim this one:

    Trump claims that he can make deals. He knew that Mukowski, Collins, and McCain were shaky on the not repeal or replace bill. He should have said, “John – I am going to call a press conference to apologize to you for my disrespectful comments about your service. Lisa and Susan – I am going to personally write a $1 million check to Planned Parenthood. Does anybody need anything else?”

  249. lisab says:

    Lisa and Susan – I am going to personally write a $1 million check to Planned Parenthood.
    ——————————————

    apparently he is not so supportive of abortion any more

  250. Mr.Vito says:

    If the woman approached him to talk To him about a job, and they were not quite familiar, and he asked her to come up to his room to talk about it, wink… wink… then yeah, I’ll call that harassment… not much different than the casting couch.

  251. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump claims that he can make deals.”

    He claims he can make good deals… cutting a check to planned parenthood would not help him much I think. Cutting a check to a veterans group and naming a building after McCain might be better.

  252. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – His supporters would forgive him for a donation to PP. they forgive him for everything.

  253. lisab says:

    they were already coworkers

    in one case it happened at work … he asked the woman out

    in the other case, the two were on assignment somewhere and living in a hotel, on a business trip … he asked the woman to come to his hotel room after dinner or something along those lines

  254. Mr.Vito says:

    Could see it then, lisab…

  255. lisab says:

    His supporters would forgive him for a donation to PP. they forgive him for everything.
    ——————————————-

    they might …

    but he himself apparently does not support abortion anymore after someone he knew had one

    he is generally socially liberal but he has some non-liberal views especially on drugs and alcohol

  256. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I said he could ask if they wanted anything else.

  257. Mr.Vito says:

    If asking someone out is harassment, then dating is dead.

  258. lisab says:

    Could see it then, lisab…
    ——————————–

    i agree …

    most people spend a huge amount of their time at work. if you cannot approach people at work, that kind of cuts out 90% of your dating pool.

    (of course in the other cases he physically assaulted the women (allegedly), so they have a case. i would support them.)

  259. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump had a brother with a substance abuse problem, didn’t he?

  260. lisab says:

    yes, he was an alcoholic and told donald never to drink

  261. Bitterlaw says:

    I only heard today that he had an alcoholic brother who died.

  262. lisab says:

    i am pretty liberal.

    i supported gay marriage long before anyone on hhr thought it would happen

    and yet i am also very opposed to abortion in most cases.

    people are complex and do not cleanly fit into political ideologies.

  263. lisab says:

    I only heard today that he had an alcoholic brother who died.
    —————————-

    yup … the donald NEVER dinks

  264. janz says:

    Trump has been quite open about his brother’s addiction, and how his death from if adversely effected him. That’s why he was so actively involved in counseling his own kids to stay away from drugs and alcohol. As my own son had a drug problem I am totally on the same page in advocating against the young getting hooked before their life even has a chance of going anywhere.

  265. lisab says:

    i was rated an “opportunity democrat”, which i would dispute … i do not think their definition of liberal is correct. according to the quiz, liberals think that hard work does not help you and that only government can help … i think that a true liberal would see government as a threat to liberty, even when well intentioned

    Democratic-leaning and financially comfortable, Opportunity Democrats have liberal attitudes on most issues including the environment, immigration and homosexuality. They stand out from other Democratic groups in their strong belief that hard work is enough for most people to get ahead and for being somewhat less likely to see structural barriers facing blacks and women. They are supportive of U.S. engagement abroad and involvement in global markets.

  266. lisab says:

    for example … common core

    i would say it is an EXCELLENT idea and sorely needed in a modern country … we SHOULD have a centralized education system in this country with NATIONAL testing so that parents and government officials can see what is going on in the schools

    but then the throw all this crap into it … they don’t train most teachers on what the philosophy of education is behind it, so the vast majority of teachers don’t understand the point of the lessons

    and then the towns want to use the tests … which are in no way standardized, to punish teachers for failing to implement a curriculum they don’t understand and were not trained on

    soooooooo … 10 points for being a good idea, minus 10000 points for being a silly heavy handed government quagmire

  267. lisab says:

    sorry about your son janz

    that must have been very difficult for you and your husband

  268. Mr.Vito says:

    I don’t think you are a liberal in the sense most people think of liberal in the Democrat party right now.

    I also got Opportunity Democrat or New Era Enterpriser, depending on whether I chose Independent lean democrat or independent lean republican.

  269. lisab says:

    i chose independent lean democrat

  270. lisab says:

    although i am really not a democrat …

    i vote third party

  271. jason says:

    I don’t trust people who don’t drink.

  272. Tina says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/26/nolte-hillary-clinton-colluded-with-russians-to-rig-election-against-trump/amp/

    Interesting article. Remeber, rs had nothing to do with the dossier. An r may have worked with fussion as a client, but it was unrelated to the dossier

  273. Tina says:

    It might show the bureau was simply had. Don’t forget that it wasn’t until January the dossier became public, and the media started unearthing details. And the more ugly info that came out (Fusion, Democratic clients, intelligence-for-hire) the more former Obama officials seemed skeptical of it. In May, former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper said his people could never “corroborate” its “sourcing.” In June, Mr. Comey derided it as “salacious and unverified.”

    Yet none of this jibes with reports that the FBI debated paying Mr. Steele to continue his work. Or that Mr. Comey was so convinced by the dossier that he pushed to have it included in the intelligence community’s January report on Russian meddling. Imagine if it turns out the FBI was duped by a politically contracted document that might have been filled up by the Kremlin.

    From the wsj article. Clearly comedy phuqed up.

  274. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t trust men who drink wine. They should just admit they are chicks and have the surgery.

  275. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – I am sorry to hear about your son. You said he “had” a drug problem. I hope that means that he is dealing with it rather than he died from it.

  276. mnw says:

    Why I like Trump as POTUS:

    I read that he personally ordered DOJ to release the Uranium informant from his confidentiality agreement so that he could testify before Congress.

    I LOVE that. About time he demonstrated who GIVES orders to the deep state and who TAKES orders and says, “Right away, sir.”

  277. NYCmike says:

    “I LOVE that. About time he demonstrated who GIVES orders to the deep state and who TAKES orders and says, “Right away, sir.””

    -Robbie should be here shortly…….. 🙂

  278. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-used-campaign-class-win-time-090031609.html

    -Republicans, Trump, and/or Bannon should try to figure out how to keep the Democrats squarely concentrating on cultural issues.

  279. NYCmike says:

    I keep reading articles about how a preemptive United States attack on No Korea would kill millions……how come we don’t read articles about how many people would be killed in a preemptive attack by No Korea……

  280. Bitterlaw says:

    If he can give orders to the Deep State, doesn’t that undercut the argument that there is a Deep State? Pretty worthless if the secret leftist Deep State just does whatever any President says.

  281. NYCmike says:

    NYC baseball:

    Yankees fire their manager who brings a team nobody picked for the playoffs to one win away from the World Series.

    Mets hire a manager who says they will really care about their players, including supporting them in things they care about OFF THE FIELD.

  282. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope the Phillies hire Girardi.

    On the other hand, how tough is it to manage the Yankees? “Joe, we bought you really great players. Just make up the batting order and use the DH unless you plan a National League team on the road. “

  283. mnw says:

    Maybe the deep state is like a mule. You have to whack it with a 2×4 just to get its attention.

  284. NYCmike says:

    If Phillies sign Girardi, that would be an upgrade.

    He won with the Marlins, and then with the Yankees.

    One team that spent nothing, and another team that spent too much.

  285. Tina says:

    Do we know anything new with the jfk release that we did not know yesterday?

  286. Tina says:

    Lets see…

    People talking about 2 shooters, debunked, but they are yapping about it.

    Oswald referred to as an asset. Whatever asset means.

    Nope, nothing new.

  287. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Happy birthday to the great @leegreenwood83. You and your beautiful song have made such a difference. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
    4:26 AM · Oct 27, 2017

    Uh, this is why i do not tweet. IT is not lee greenwod, the singer.

  288. Bitterlaw says:

    Oswald was there when Obama was born in Hawaii. Newborn Obama received the Deep State plans from him.

  289. Tina says:

    Ineffective ben sassee does not want moore to win.

    Ineffective laughed at n word jokes months ago.

    So, he has the high ground.

  290. Bitterlaw says:

    I want Moore to win and then stop talking for 6 years.

  291. Bitterlaw says:

    Or however many years are left in the term. 6 years of silence would be good anyway.

  292. Tina says:

    I could not support moore or sasse.

    Moore refused 2 judicial opinions.

    Sasse failed to walk away from the n word jokes.

    I would not support the drats, unlike the jebots.

  293. NYCmike says:

    CCC

  294. mnw says:

    This is about Gillespie & may only interest me. Disclaimer: I could care less whether the Indian sports team named stay or go. Ditto for Confederate monuments. I just don’t care.

    Last time Gillespie ran, he defended the Redskins name & by all accounts benefited thereby– he outperformed the polling by a wide margin, as I recall.

    This time, 10 days before the election, Gillespie has endorsed keeping the rebel monuments.

    I’m sure this was not a spur of the moment decision. Everything he does seems to be carefully calculated.

  295. DW says:

    301-its a good move.

  296. DW says:

    Christopher Newport U:

    Northam 50
    Gillespie 43

    Recent poll by CNU: 50-44.

    However, the new one has Northam doing better with men (51-42) than women (49-44)

    http://wasoncenter.cnu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Oct-27-Report-Final.pdf

  297. DW says:

    http://ktla.com/2017/10/26/proposed-ballot-initiative-to-divide-california-into-3-states-cleared-to-collect-signatures/

    Plan to carve CA up into three states is odd in that parts of ‘Southern California’ would be further north than ‘Northern California’ and regular ‘California.’

  298. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #288
    Please research the current Yankees before making ridiculous statements. Here is how the Yanks’ starting eight came about:

    1B– Bird- Minors
    2B- Castro- Trade
    3B- Headley- Trade
    SS- Gregorious- Trade
    LF- Gardner- Minors
    CF- Hicks- Trade
    RF- Judge- Minors
    C- Sanchez- Minors

    It’s the Red Sox who are paying big for overrated talent, not the Bronx Bombers.
    Stick with your knowledge of the Phillies since,it appears, that is all you know about MLB!

  299. Bitterlaw says:

    I would not remove any Confederate monuments. I would go out of my way to avoid seeing one and would not stop to look at it if I happened to encounter one. I would also not stop to look at a monument of Rommel, Tojo, or Yamamoto. Consistent.

    As for the Redskins, that is the owner’s decision. I only care if the Eagles beat them. The name does not matter to me.

  300. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – Sure. The Yankees never spend money on free agents. This season is not the norm.

  301. Bitterlaw says:

    When Trout is a free agent, I am sure that his agent will get a call from the Yankees.

  302. Chicon says:

    And Harper, who is a FA next year.

  303. Bitterlaw says:

    I grew up as a Yankees fan. The Reggie bar was my favorite candy.

    My dad always liked the Phillies. When I moved here for law school in 1990. I started going to Phillies games. The 1993 Phillies were my favorite team ever. Damn you, Joe Carter!

    If the Yankees were in the World Series, I would want them to win. Since my rule is I can only support one team per sport, I am a Phillies fan. The suffering feels right.

  304. NYCmike says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/26/donald-trumps-reign-of-benign-regulatory-neglect/

    -This goes along with the one thing I agreed with Groper-VP-Biden…..I believe we should support the Kurds

  305. messy says:

    Getting back to the original post…I guess they used “likely voters” as a synonym for “wishful thinking.”

  306. NYCmike says:

    messy,

    Just as a comparison tool:

    When you relied solely on the polls last November, what was your prediction?

  307. Wes says:

    RRH says GOP tracking claims Gillespie is up 2.

    Ed needs to win this one for the Gipper, DW.

  308. Wes says:

    The new poll showing Northam up 7 claims 70% of Virginians planning to vote have a BA while 30% have postgraduate degrees.

    I don’t think any stste has that kind of educationsl background in its electorate.

  309. messy says:

    314. I got the popular vote right, but I thought, like everyone else, Hillary would win Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.

  310. messy says:

    Adding Hillary, Johnson, Stein and McMullin’s votes together 51% voted AGAINST Trump.

    He has no mandate at all.

    315. The “Gipper” wouldn’t be supporting KKK monuments or neo-nazis.

  311. Tgca says:

    276 Jason
    I don’t drink alcohol ever unless you count the occasional sip of cough medicine when the need warrants. You saying I’m not trustworthy?

  312. Tgca says:

    280 Bitter

    I bet lots of girly men in northern CA would disagree with you. They not only drink wine but they eat tofu and sprouts and wear sweaters on a regular basis.