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Northam’s Lead Shrinks to 5% in VA

The Washington Post has released a new poll for the race in Virginia and claims the race is down to only a 5% lead for Ralph Northam after claiming Northam was up by 13% four weeks ago.

GOVERNOR – VIRGINIA (WaPo)
Ralph Northam (D) 49%
Ed Gillespie (R) 44%
Cliff Hyra (L) 4%

This poll was done October 26-29 among likely voters. Although it was with a different polling company at the time, it is worth pointing out that the final poll The Washington Post released under their name in the 2013 gubernatorial race in Virginia claimed Terry McAuliffe was going to beat Ken Cuccinelli by 12%. McAuliffe only won by 2.6%.

Posted by Dave at 12:32 pm
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404 Responses to “Northam’s Lead Shrinks to 5% in VA”

  1. mnw says:

    I share Walt’s concerns about the Libertarian dooming Gillespie.

    To its credit, the WaPo DID switch pollsters after its embarrassing performance in the last VA Guv election.

    FWIW, this poll would pre-date the “Gillespie truck murderer” ad, which received wide press coverage, surprisingly even from some of the fake news networks.

  2. Tina says:

    I linked that gilepsies fundraising has increased.

    https://t.co/mc7VGQvRRb

  3. mnw says:

    Tina

    Fascinating link.

    As I expected he might, Gillespie ducks question of whether he wants Trump to come there & campaign for him. If u read that Trump is going to appear with G In VA…it likely means Gillespie has concluded he’s behind & has nothing to lose, imo.

    Startling to me that online donations to G have tripled since the truck murderer ad ran!

  4. Tina says:

    He is running well. Seems to have all of the momentum.

    Spoke tough on illegal immigration, in particular the ms 13.

    Hope he wins.

  5. Chicon says:

    Mnw – I think Trump evokes strong feelings. Tough for a candidate to calculate the net effect of a Trump visit/support. Maybe the message is that Ed feels good enough to not risk the effects of a Trump visit?

  6. mnw says:

    Chiron

    Yeah, we’re pretty much saying the same thing, I think.

    A Trump visit has positives & negatives, & it’s hard to calculate the net effect. I’m sure if G thinks he’s well & truly ahead, then he won’t take the Trump visit risk. But if he thinks he’s behind? Why hello, Mr. President.

  7. Cash Cow TM says:

    Since Gillespie ran for U.S. senate in 2016 and only lost narrowly, I would guess he has a high name recognition in his run for governor.

    That would seem to be in his favor.

    But then we got the Libertarian candidate pulling deadender, lets send a message votes…

  8. Tina says:

    This will trigger

    Trump is considering sending ny jihadi to gitmo.

  9. jason says:

    Trump’s visit did not help Strange, unfortunately.

    So he is not all powerful.

    But Gillespie needs the 1.8 million people who voted for Trump to turn out. These people will not be offended with his visit. Will enough Dems be incensed to turn out just because of his visit to make it a net negative?

    I doubt it.

  10. mnw says:

    The Boston Marathon Islamist is on death row. That’s where this one will end up, no matter where he’s housed.

    Because there are not 2 levels of appeal (state AND federal) in fed death penalty cases, justice can be done with less of an obscene delay. It didn’t take long to get McVeigj on his way.

  11. jason says:

    I don’t share DW’s optimism on this race entirely, but I think Gillespie has a fighting chance.

  12. mnw says:

    The fear with a Trump visit is that it might drive up DEM turnout too, of course.

  13. jason says:

    Well, why hasn’t the Boston bomber been executed yet?

  14. jason says:

    The fear with a Trump visit is that it might drive up DEM turnout too, of course.”

    Right. And it will.

    I still suspect he could eke out a net positive however.

  15. jason says:

    Is NYC still beating the poor dead Cotton Perdue horse on the other thread?

  16. jason says:

    -And you don’t know how to negotiate, nor do you know how to get Democrats to take a tough vote.”

    LOL

    Cotton Perdue is stuck dead in the water and is going nowhere because it has an unacceptable provision to the majority of the caucus but I am the one who doesn’t know how to negotiate?

    I love it here.

  17. mnw says:

    Boston marathon execution:

    without any state appeals, it still takes appx 5-8 years. McVeigh wanted the death penalty, so that speeded the process up.

  18. hugh says:

    does VA have early voting

  19. Tina says:

    The lottery program was just canceled by trump.

    Subject to court appeal. Y drat.

    Turns out jihadi brought in 23 family members.

    Chain kigration must end.

  20. NYCmike says:

    “Is NYC still beating the poor dead Cotton Perdue horse on the other thread?”

    LAST comment from the last thread:

    jason says:
    November 1, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    he numbers for legal immigration are HUGE! The voters will see 500,000 and say “that is a large number, very reasonable.”

    It’s not reasonable at all, that is why the GOP caucus will not support it.

  21. NYCmike says:

    “It’s not reasonable at all, that is why the GOP caucus will not support it.”

    -Please notice:

    I mentioned “The voters”.

    Jason mentioned “the GOP caucus”.

    Hint: this might be the reason why many incumbents have such LOW approval numbers….they don’t listen to the people who put them there!

  22. Mr.Vito says:

    Did anyone read the write-up for this poll? It goes on about how Ed Gillespie’s ads and confederate monument support are racist and controversial… then it says

    “In a sign that Democrats fear that Gillespie’s message is breaking through, the Latino Victory Fund on Monday released a controversial ad of its own.”

  23. Chicon says:

    Jason, could be that VA has a different looking Republican electorate than AL. Maybe more moderate/government employee type Republicans?

    Also, Luther was behind and needed to take a risk.

  24. NYCmike says:

    “Turns out jihadi brought in 23 family members.

    Chain kigration must end.”

    -Hmmmm, I seem to remember a piece of legislation that did such a thing, but forget about that……the “caucus”…..oops, I mean the voters, would NEVER go for that!

  25. Mr.Vito says:

    WAPO was also the farthest off on the McDonnell race the final week in 2009. It has Deeds at 44% through October, when everyone else had him at about the 41.2 percent he got (or less). They also had Deeds at an insane 47% in September.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2009/governor/va/virginia_governor_mcdonnell_vs_deeds-1055.html#polls

    (I don’t count R2000 since that was a fake polling company.)

  26. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump wasn’t going to help Luther Strange, because none of this has really ever been about Trump… railing against Trump is a disqualifier, but Trump support is not a qualifier.

    Trump stumping for Gillespie will not convince will not convince anyone that he is less establishment if they already believe it.

    However, the truck ad was a big mistake, as it will pi$$ these people off enough to go out and vote against Northam.

  27. NYCmike says:

    Last note on this (for now):

    Any bill the Republican leadership does NOT allow to be voted on is a sign of what they themselves think is a priority, as opposed to what the voters think is a priority.

  28. NYCmike says:

    “will not convince will not convince”

    -Are you sure? 🙂

  29. mnw says:

    RE: Trump & Luther Strange v. Trump & Gillespie

    What Trump tried to do in AL was to convince his supporters to vote for one of two GOP candidates.

    What Trump MAY be asked to do in VA is to convince his supporters to get out & vote. Period, the end.

    I see a major distinction between the two Trump campaign trips. The second one, in VA, seems more promising.

  30. DW says:

    jason–I can understand why others don’t share my optimism on VA Gov race, but then again its also true that the different of 1-3 points is small and yet it very well could be the difference between winning and losing. Either candidate can win, but all the data I see on this race taken together suggests a Gillespie win of 1-3 points.

  31. mnw says:

    DW

    What about the damn Libertarian?

  32. jason says:

    A real confidence builder.

    The USS Fitzgerald, traveling in congested shipping lanes, only had lookouts on one side….

    I guess that reduces the chance of a collision by 50%? Good enough…

    “One glaring omission on the Fitzgerald:

    “Watchstanders performing physical lookout duties did so only on Fitzgerald’s left (port) side, not on the right (starboard) side where the three ships were present with risk of collision.”

  33. Mr.Vito says:

    There are people in Southern and Western Virginia who supported Stewart over Gillespie. Many of them see little difference between Gillespie and Northam… Trump will not convince them to come out for someone they aren’t high on. Gillespie deciding he can support the majority opinion on Confederate monuments won’t either, as it just looks like pandering.

    However, Gillespie doing that and then being told it makes him a supporter of child killers, and that those child killers are Gillespie voters, will make them want to stick it to Northam.

  34. Mr.Vito says:

    should be… *and that those child killers are Stewart/Trump voters*

  35. jason says:

    Hmmmm, I seem to remember a piece of legislation that did such a thing,”

    Take out the 50% cut to legal immigration and it will get more support.

    You read it here first.

  36. mnw says:

    There were callers on Rush who claimed that they weren’t going to vote for Gillespie– until the truck murder ad. The callers said that they would now vote for G. I realize that this is anecdotal & that the sample size is exactly two, as I recall.

  37. jason says:

    What about the damn Libertarian?”

    Doing his best to elect Northam.

  38. jason says:

    Well, not every deadender who says they won’t vote for Gillespie will follow through after they have sent the message. Some will not of course.

    Maybe the truck ad will convince them to do the right thing. Hope springs eternal.

  39. Chicon says:

    29 – Good point, mnw.

  40. Chicon says:

    I’ve heard plenty of stories of people who were not going to vote for Trump, but decided to do so at the last moment. Perhaps something convinced them to do the right thing….

  41. mnw says:

    It’s my impression that Gillespie is a very disciplined candidate who stays on message.

    If you read the link in Tina’s post #2 above, Gillespie sounds as if he thinks the nasty ad was BIG.

  42. jason says:

    DW, you have a good track record and you are not a wild eyed optimist. Right now RCP has Northam +3.6 and that includes two outlier polls, one showing Gillespie up by 8 and the other down by 17, neither which I think will happen.

    I hope Gillespie wins, just not that confident especially with the wild polling.

  43. mnw says:

    Trump might help marginally with the libertarians– they like (or once liked) some of his statements about avoiding involvement in little wars, etc.

  44. jason says:

    “I’ve heard plenty of stories of people who were not going to vote for Trump, but decided to do so at the last moment.”

    It’s why he won. A lot of Bitters out there that held their noses and bit the bullet, and not enough jasons to doom him. In the end he held on to about 90% of the R vote.

  45. jason says:

    The Libertarians are probably upset that Trump is rebuilding the military and threatening NOK.

  46. jason says:

    I think Vito is right, the nasty ad is getting a lot of press, and its certainly going to cost Northam more votes than it gets him. Unforced error.

  47. jason says:

    According to the WAPO poll, some of the crosstabs show momentum for GIllespie..

    ” Voters split about evenly when asked whom they trust to handle illegal immigration, but Gillespie has an eight-percentage-point edge on trust to handle “crime and public safety.”
    Gillespie trailed by more than 20 points at the beginning of October in the swing-voting Northern Virginia exurbs that encompass Loudoun County. Now he’s tied with Northam at 44 percent.
    Among self-identified conservatives, Gillespie’s lead over Northam grew from 56 points to 69 points.
    Gillespie’s lead among white voters without college degrees has increased from 25 points to 35 points. (Trump won this group by 47 points in 2016 exit polls.)

    Gillespie’s supporters have caught up to Northam’s in motivation to vote and in attention to the race. Among registered voters, an identical 71 percent of both Northam and Gillespie supporters say they are certain to vote or have already done so, a shift from four weeks ago, when Northam backers had a nearly 10-point edge on this measure.”

  48. DW says:

    31 – we have always had a nutty libertarian in VA statewide races, and they always get their 1-3%. I see no evidence that they siphon off more GOP or Dem. My guess is the majority of them would just stay home. These are mostly loons who rage about the Patriot Act and stuff like that.

    42 – jason–I am not really concerned about the polls. They are about as accurate as those pre-season sports articles telling you months in advance who is going to be in the playoffs.

  49. NYCmike says:

    Prediction:

    If Gillespie wins, Trump and/or “deadenders” will have had no affect on the race.

    If Gillespie loses, Trump’s terribleness and the “deadenders” will be at fault.

  50. DW says:

    49 – and the folly of those wrong conclusions to draw is the fact that the election will be decided by relatively few votes. VA is a very divided state, and it will be a very divided state a week from now. It was a very divided state 5 years ago. Has nothing to do with Trump.

  51. NYCmike says:

    L(L Cool J)

  52. mnw says:

    jason 47

    That’s interesting info about the WaPo poll.

    Looks to me like G’s lead of +35 among “non-college whites” will have to approach Trump’s +47.

    That hardly seems like the impossible dream. A Trump visit to SW VA might do the trick.

  53. Mr.Vito says:

    If he’s tied in the exurbs, he doesn’t need +47 instead of +35…

    He’s already tied, and WAPOs topline is full of it.

  54. dblaikie says:

    The Cato institute has a new poll out which claims that 58% of Americans in this political environment are hesitant to express or state their political views. I don’t trust any poll, but if this one is anywhere close to being accurate it calls into question any poll published by any media organization.

    I will predict a Gillespie win not because of any one poll but because Northam didn’t immediately condemn the last ad put out by some of his supporters. And he stands by his position that Gillespie voters are a bunch of white supremacists. Sounds like a desperate attempt to whip up the minority vote. He is in trouble.

  55. mnw says:

    Vito

    I understand your point. I thought of that, but… I guess I’m predisposed to be especially sensitized to “non-college whites” because but for THEM Hillary would be POTUS.

    I assume there’s a lot of overlap between “exurbs” & “non-college whites,” btw.

  56. Mr.Vito says:

    “I assume there’s a lot of overlap between “exurbs” & “non-college whites,” btw.”

    Not in Northern Virgina, where Loudon is, and where they claim he’s tied.

  57. mnw says:

    dblaikie 54

    I will always remember how Trump was hectored unmercifully to disavow specifically and in great detail the announced endorsement of every obscure white supremacist. David Duke (I think). Richard Spencer (I think), etc.

    NOBODY has leaned on Northam to disavow the Gillespie is a truck murderer’ ad. Crickets everywhere.

  58. Tina says:

    Well, gillepsie brought that ad upon himself.

    -Jebot.

  59. Tina says:

    One of the two men has vanished and is being actively sought by federal agents as a “suspected terrorist.” (link: http://abcn.ws/2zXIrHn) abcn.ws/2zXIrHn via @ABC

    Great news.

  60. janz says:

    Dems are not leaned on to disavow anything. Only R’s are brought to task to continually prove they are not racists.

  61. dblaikie says:

    Tina is 58 your point of view or Jebot’s?

  62. dblaikie says:

    I meant 59

  63. dblaikie says:

    Virginia has become a light blue state. If Northam was comfortable he wouldn’t have to pull out this bogus race card. Again, I believe it shows that he is in trouble. And guess what, true to my position on this site for over a year (I know I took 7 month break after the election. Needed to time to recover from MD”s arrogance.) I don’t trust any poll.

  64. Tina says:

    Jebots.

  65. Wes says:

    My thoughts on Adgate in VA:

    1) The ad was too cartoonish to make its point effectively. Gillespie is not an offensive person and doesn’t look like someone who would run over people with a truck. This Wiley E. Coyote style ad failed a primary rule of propaganda: believability.

    2) Northam hurt himself by refuding to condemn the ad.

    3) Since donations have increased, I expect Gillespie to have critical COH for the home stretch.

    4) Republicans of all stripes are now united behind Gillespie.

    5) Undecided voters will likely break toward Gillespie because of this.

    6) Democrats hurt themselves by sanctimonious virtue signalling here. They coild have made their point in subtle, more believable fashion. Instead, the effectively made parodies of themselves.

    As of now, I expect Gillespie and Vogel to win. I doubt Herring falls, but I hope he’s collateral damage.

  66. dblaikie says:

    Wes, like I say it all adds up to Northam is in trouble.

    Meanwhile I will make a prediction. On Friday and Saturday some polls will come out showing Northam ahead by about 8 to 10 points. Don’t believe them. Bogus polls are a good way to depress turnout.

  67. Robbie says:

    I thought NYCMike and Tina assured me there’s no reason to pay attention to Maggie Haberman. If so, then why does Trump continue to pick up the phone and call her?

    Jake Sherman?
    @JakeSherman

    Trump calls @maggieNYT and @peterbakernyt to say he’s not angry at the Mueller probe.

  68. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 1, 2017 at 3:35 pm
    Prediction:
    If Gillespie wins, Trump and/or “deadenders” will have had no affect on the race.
    If Gillespie loses, Trump’s terribleness and the “deadenders” will be at fault.

    – If Gillespie wins, it will be in spite of Trump.

    If Gillispie loses, Trump and the atmosphere he’s created for Republicans will have played a big role.

  69. Jonesy says:

    I remember in the Fall of 2016, Shep Smith was giddy on announcing that a WaPo poll had Hillary up 20% in Virginia. He continued to say Trump was finished due to that poll.

    Can anyone verify that poll?

  70. NYCmike says:

    “I thought NYCMike and Tina assured me there’s no reason to pay attention to Maggie Haberman.”

    -Well, I know I NEVER said to pay no attention to her.

    I DID say to treat her information as one data point among many others, instead of breathlessly linking them here while saying “HA!”.

  71. Tina says:

    Maggie hack is funny.

    His lawyer confirmed that he is not upset, mad, angry, and works closely with mueller.

    That is why drats want mueller gone,

  72. Jonesy says:

    Two things you can count on in this World.

    The Sun will rise.

    And that Robbie is still a idiot.

  73. NYCmike says:

    #72 – 🙂

    What a pathetic soul!

  74. Tina says:

    I rather get the information from the lawyah, a primary source, than maggies interpretation.

    Plus, maggie was noted as being a friendly reporter by her thighness in wikileaks, or whatever.

  75. NYCmike says:

    “And that Robbie is still a idiot.”

    -Should be “an”, since the next word starts with an “i”.

  76. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 1, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    Maggie hack is funny.
    His lawyer confirmed that he is not upset, mad, angry, and works closely with mueller.
    That is why drats want mueller gone,

    – Trump’s lawyer says it so it must be true. He also said the investigation would be over by Thanksgiving. So three weeks until Mueller shuts it all down, right?

  77. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 1, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    Two things you can count on in this World.
    The Sun will rise.
    And that Robbie is still a idiot.

    – One thing I can count on is Jonesy will never stop being Trump’s court jester.

  78. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 1, 2017 at 5:20 pm
    “And that Robbie is still a idiot.”
    -Should be “an”, since the next word starts with an “i”.

    – A fellow grammarian!

  79. Tina says:

    take maggie with a grain of salt.

  80. Trump says:

    One thing all can count on is the cretin Robbie getting his drink pissed into by Trump.

    The fu ck tard still pining for Trump indictment.

    It’s all good.

    Meanwhile, in the non-demented world, “235,000 private-sector jobs added in October”

  81. Mr.Vito says:

    If Trump isn’t angry, it means he won’t fire Mueller, which is what ‘the swamp’ is hoping he’ll do.

  82. Jonesy says:

    Robbie, I must admit your grammar was excellent on election night 2016.

    Blunt will lose, Hillary in a landslide etc…

    Keep up the good work

  83. Jonesy says:

    Last week, Robbie posted that Pelosi will be the new Speaker in 2018. Good news for the GOP. Robbie is always wrong.

    I hope Robbie is picking Northam to win

  84. Jonesy says:

    Mike, could you imagine the $$$ that could have been won, fading Robbie’s political predictions?

    Huge

  85. CG says:

    What specifically did Robbie say about Jared Kushner that was anti-Semitic, J?

  86. Chicon says:

    Robbie, can we have your opinion on whether the VA Governor’s race is a referendum on Trump?

    Or will that only be the case if Ed loses?

  87. CG says:

    It wouldn’t also only the case if Ed wins, right?

  88. Phil says:

    Not concerned about anything that Robbie says or anything else for that matter. What I am concerned about is that menacing confederate pickup driven by Republicans that is following those poor, minority kids and the attempt to run them over. Imagine some skinhead actually using a vehicle as a weapon to run over human beings. Unheard of!

    Damn white crackers whistling Dixie. It’s all about “what kind of country we want this to be”.

    Someone do something and save those children!

  89. CG says:

    Would it make any difference if the narrative of the video was presented that the truck was picking up illegal kids to have them deported?

  90. Jonesy says:

    Agree Phil

  91. CG says:

    It’s unlikely the person driving that car would identify as a “Republican” or would ever have Ed Gillespie campaign materials displayed.

    In Cook County, I might get driven off the road because my license plates still say “GOP” and people may think I am a Trump supporter.

  92. Phil says:

    ICE doesn’t drive pickups with confederate flag license plates, but nice try.

  93. Jonesy says:

    Corey, are you still denying your election night meltdown here?

  94. Jonesy says:

    Phil, if you want to read some comedy, google the NYT election night blog of 2016.

    Maggie was awful, along with the other Robbie icons

  95. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Will defer to others on the board who are better at predicting elections, but would consider a Gillespie win an upset victory.

    If the Republicans take the Virginia governorship and Utah special election race next week, there is going to be consternation among the Democrats, as there was after the special election in Georgia the Republicans won.

  96. Phil says:

    Yeah, I have gone back and read it. Quite entertaining, Jonesy.

  97. Jonesy says:

    Robbie and Corey have the same drive by strategy here. Make some snarky comments, hide for awhile, and then hope all forget election night 2016.

    Classic Never Trumpers, who think Romney should have won

  98. Jonesy says:

    SD, is Utah suppose to be close? Have not followed

  99. CG says:

    I wasn’t here on Election Night. You might be thinking of Cory.

    Did you catch my question though about what anti-Semitic comments might have been made by Robbie about Jared Kushner? Please be willing to back that up or withdraw that you ever said it.

  100. CG says:

    Yes, I think Romney should have won. You can disagree if you want.

  101. CG says:

    So, it would be just as bad that a citizen would be freelancing in an unofficial capacity the job of someone in ICE. I hope that would be a universal opinion. I think the ad might possibly have been suggesting that.

  102. Tina says:

    Not concerned about anything that Robbie says or anything else for that matter. What I am concerned about is that menacing confederate pickup driven by Republicans that is following those poor, minority kids and the attempt to run them over. Imagine some skinhead actually using a vehicle as a weapon to run over human beings. Unheard of!

    Lol

  103. Tina says:

    It is obvious that we should get 4th quarter gdb in the 3s, or low 4.

  104. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/925776522681692161/photo/2

    Was diversilty lottery signed by 41?

    What a disaster.

  105. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #99
    A recent poll showed the GOP candidate, Mr. Curtis, in the Utah Congressional race ahead by 25+ points.
    Democrats are so hysterical that Curtis’ opponent,a liberal female physician, has raised over $750,000. The Donkeys keep wasting monies on lost causes.

    On an unrelated note, the Senate this week has confirmed some excellent Appeals courts nominees–Barrett,Larson and Eid(cloture vote only).

  106. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    99. “SD, is Utah suppose to be close? Have not followed.”

    Trump only got 46.7% of the vote in the Utah 3rd District. And as we know from the trolls on the board, anti-Trump feeling among voters will drag all the Republicans down. So of course it is competitive. The Democrats have poured $750,000 into the race to elect a Democrat.

    What!! The Republican candidate has a 25% lead, and the Democrat only has 19% support. How can this happen! Robbie, help me on this one. What does Lord Fuklemukkle, or whoever your polling sources was, say? This is a young techie district, the Democrats should be competitive.

  107. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    108. Robbie, here is who I was referring to:

    “Robbie says: November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm
    Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.”

    He was wrong in 2016, but so was every other polling source you quoted.

    Who is Lord Ashcroft by the way? Is he a real Lord?

  108. Tina says:

    I have hasked for almost a year who is lord asehat.

  109. lisab says:

    what shocks me is all the news coverage of the mueller indictments

    there is just no let up in the coverage

    it is just 24/7/365 coverage

    what a big deal this has turned out to be …

  110. lisab says:

    i predicted that mueller’s investigation will go on for years … because the pay is so good, why would he end the investigation?

    but now pelosi is trying to stop the impeachment talk because it is hurting the dems.

    so perhaps the dems will end mueller’s investigation.

  111. lisab says:

    however, my prediction remains the same, mueller will stretch the investigation out for years

  112. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    111. It might not have been so laughable if there had not been the leak on Friday that the indictments were coming. The left expected something big, and got disappointed. Reminds me of when Rachel Maddow revealed Donald Trump’s tax return.

  113. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    113. “however, my prediction remains the same, mueller will stretch the investigation out for years.”

    Totally agree. It is a huge cash cow for him. No one is going to challenge his billings. He is funding a very affluent retirement for himself.

  114. Phil says:

    …..so no one here is interested in saving the Virginia children?
    No compassion whatsoever on this site. Republican rabble.

  115. Mr.Vito says:

    “A man came out of the truck after striking the school bus wielding what appeared to be two weapons. The weapons turned out to be a paintball gun and a pellet gun, NYPD Commissioner James P. O’Neill said in a Tuesday afternoon press conference.

    Witnesses told the NYPD the suspect, identified as 29-year-old Sayfullo Saipov — an Uzbek national from Tampa, Florida — shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great” in Arabic when he jumped out of the truck.

    Sources say that’s when 1st Precinct Officer Ryan Nash shot Saipov one time in the abdomen. The suspect was rushed to NYC Health + Hospitals/Bellevue where he’s currently undergoing questioning.”

    …………………………

    White cop shoots unarmed Muslim for giving thanks to God after surviving traffic accident.

  116. NYCmike says:

    “The left expected something big, and got disappointed.”

    -According to some “sources” on this blog, YUGE things are still coming down the pike!

  117. Trump says:


    lisab says:
    November 1, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    however, my prediction remains the same, mueller will stretch the investigation out for years”

    He bills by the hour. Nice gig if you get Uncle Sam’s unlimited budget.

  118. Trump says:

    Are you guys mocking cretin Robbie? Not nice.

  119. Trump says:

    The Utah special election is going to be close. Dems have a real chance at stealing it. If they spend $50m or so.

  120. Trump says:

    “Who is Lord Ashcroft by the way? Is he a real Lord?”

    Who names their kid Lord?

  121. Trump says:

    Well, I should take that back. Now that I know the Gaga family named their kid Lady.

  122. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s why he won. A lot of Bitters out there that held their noses and bit the bullet, and not enough jasons to doom him. In the end he held on to about 90% of the R vote.

    You just have to know which A-hole to follow.

  123. Bitterlaw says:

    What specifically did Robbie say about Jared Kushner that was anti-Semitic, J?

    Nothing. The charge was ridiculous. Even people who never agree with Robbie said it was b.s.

  124. Bitterlaw says:

    Houston jumps out to a 5-0 lead. No way they could blow it.*

    *Sorry, Phil. I am testing my powers to jinx things.

  125. DW says:

    127 – statements that blow it have be natural, not forced or manipulated.

  126. DW says:

    Houston pitcher who drove in a run was the first pitcher in a World Series Game 7 to drive in a run since the Mets’ Jesse Orosco in the 1986 series against the Red Sox–the famous series for the ball going thru Bill Buckner’s legs.

  127. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Mayors
    More than a dozen big cities are holding mayoral elections in November. In a few of them — Boston, Buffalo, N.Y.; New York City and Pittsburgh — the incumbent mayors are almost guaranteed to win.

    But others aren’t so lucky: The mayors of Cincinnati, Minneapolis and St. Petersburg, Fla., are at risk of being voted out of office.

    Meanwhile, voters in Charlotte, N.C.; and Seattle will certainly be getting a new mayor — again. The former is electing its seventh mayor in eight years after ousting the current mayor who led the city’s battle against the state over transgender bathrooms. The latter is electing its fourth mayor in as many years after allegations of sexual abuse led Ed Murray to resign in September.

    Both of those cities could also experience some firsts: Charlotte could elect its first black woman to lead city hall, and Seattle will have its first female mayor — it’s just a question of which.”

  128. Tina says:

    Who is loed asehat? I think sdc posed the question of the day.

  129. Bitterlaw says:

    the famous series for the ball going thru Bill Buckner’s legs.

    Even if Buckner had caught the ball, would he have been able to beat the runner to the base? I bet DW has an opinion.

  130. Proud Obamacon says:

    59%, said ‘they consider this to to be the lowest point in our nation’s history that they can remember.’

  131. Proud Obamacon says:

    WORST.PRESIDENT.EVAHHHH

  132. mnw says:

    Apparently the greatest danger we face now as a nation is that horrific “anti-Muslim backlash” that always leaves dozens of innocent Muslims dead after every terrorist attack by a jihadi.

  133. lisab says:

    Shaun King?Verified account @ShaunKing 23h23 hours ago

    Shaun King Retweeted Donald J. Trump
    Again, a white man shot FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE in Las Vegas and Trump had NOTHING.

    Zilch
    No solutions.
    No policies.
    No ideas.
    Nothing.

  134. Bitterlaw says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/formmb?lang=enB

    MD on a twitter rant about huge increase in health insurance premiums. Vows to work to defeat all Republicans – especially Senator Toomey.

  135. lisab says:

    Elham Khatami

    send him to gitmo, trump says, referring to saipov. he said no such thing about the vegas shooter, who killed 58 people.

  136. Tina says:

    Huh, huge. Increase?

    Really?

  137. Mr.Vito says:

    “…he said no such thing about the vegas shooter, who killed 58 people.”

    Well, he was dead.

  138. lisab says:

    “Well, he was dead.”

    and a white male …

  139. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Zilch
    No solutions.
    No policies.
    No ideas.
    Nothing.”

    It’s the price of freedom, yall. YEEHAW!

    PATHETIC

  140. lisab says:

    “Huh, huge. Increase?”

    36%

    gee … if only a president would try to cancel obamacare

  141. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope the Muslim scum who killed those people yesterday gets the death penalty.

    While I do not believe there will be a backlash against Muslims, if I saw a Muslim being threatened or harassed, I would jump in to defend them.

    NYC to object to this statement in 3…2…1…

  142. Bitterlaw says:

    36% increase. He posted his renewal bill.

  143. Proud Obamacon says:

    “36% increase. He posted his renewal bill.”

    Thanks to The Orange Man’s sabotage of Obamacare.

    WORST.PREZ.EVAH

  144. lisab says:

    no that is the increase approved last year

  145. Mr.Vito says:

    “MD on a twitter rant about huge increase in health insurance premiums. Vows to work to defeat all Republicans – especially Senator Toomey.”

    Deadender. I have it on good authority that the GOP congress is not at fault.

  146. lisab says:

    actually i just looked it up

    the approved increase for 2017 was 53%

    so 36% is actually a reduction from the approved increase.

  147. lisab says:

    “the approved increase for 2017 was 53%”

    for pennsylvania for 2017 the approved increase was 53%

    it differs for each state

  148. lisab says:

    two states were scheduled to get decreases

    massachusetts being one of them yay!

    arizon was scheduled to go up by 116%

  149. lisab says:

    George Papadopoulos worked for Hillary Clinton’s State Department

  150. Tina says:

    Phil Kerpen
    Phil Kerpen
    @kerpen
    ·
    30m
    Ralph Northam claims he did not approve the racist murder truck ad, but his campaign reported it as an in-kind contribution. #VAGov

  151. Tina says:

    Yeah, trump sabotaged the premiums.

    And tomorrow is Christmas

  152. lisab says:

    Tina,

    are you suggesting that if you centralize an entire industry and put it under government control prices will go up?

  153. Tina says:

    Trump

    Premium sabotage

    Muh Russian

    Muh Wire

    The jebots talking points.

  154. lisab says:

    NFL Intern: “Mr Goodell, MLB is having police officers sing the national anthem and everyone is standing. They are beating in ratings now by over 30%”

    Roger Goodell: “hmmmm, I have an idea! Let’s tell our players…they can kneel even more! I finally pissed off one of our biggest sponsors Papa Johns. Once I renew my contract I can burn this whole place to the ground!”

  155. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw

    Why object to a common sense statement?

    I am just trying to figure out whom it is you feel the need to keep up your virtue-signaling for……

  156. NYCmike says:

    Also, why is MD surprised?

    That can’t be the same person!

  157. NYCmike says:

    Did his wife find him with Jason’s llama, or with that woman who was making the sandwiches at the A- Hole Clubhouse?

  158. NYCmike says:

    I am binge-watching Downton Abbey. It is a great show.

    I may not sleep much tonight after they just took our Matthew away!

  159. NYCmike says:

    Cheers !!

  160. lisab says:

    downton trivia:

    the house on tv was once owned by the guy who robbed the grave of king tut

    and most of it is currently unihabitable

    most great houses fell out of favour by 1880, due to changes in the tax laws, and by 1950 many had been torn down.

  161. JC says:

    The truck ad has to be one of the most counterproductive ads ever. It’s like it was created to get people to vote against Northam.

    Sure, we’ve seen these kind of fear mongering ads before (like the burning churches one). But even in those cases, the target was a specific person or political party. In the truck ad they aren’t even smearing Gillespie. They’re smearing actual voters.

    How many people have Gadsden flags hanging up at their home and consider it patriotic? How many people drive pickup trucks? How many people have Gillespie bumper stickers? How many people voted for him in 2014? (Half the population).

    This was a blatant smear on rural voters. The very people Gillespie needs to turn out in huge numbers to win.

  162. Gpo says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    November 1, 2017 at 10:20 pm
    https://mobile.twitter.com/formmb?lang=enB

    MD on a twitter rant about huge increase in health insurance premiums. Vows to work to defeat all Republicans – especially Senator Toomey.

    I know he went off the deep end but how can he possibly hate trump,so much if he is the only one ready to repeal it

  163. lisab says:

    another issue was the rise in wages and change in culture brought on by ww1.

    people did not look up to the aristocracy as much after seeing many of the young men screaming in pain in the trenches in france. they saw that they were no different than themselves, just richer.

    also, as is mentioned in the series, wages had increased especially as a result of the war so that being in service was no longer an attractive occupation … as the great houses did not pay as much as a factory job.

    the series mentions that downton abbey once had six footmen, but by the end of the series they just had one. in reality many of those houses would have had up to 100 servants in their heyday. it just was not economical to keep that many servants by 1920 so the houses began to fall apart.

    many actors and musicians have made the mistake of buying grand english homes, albeit smaller than downton abbey, only to find out much to their regret the enormous cost those mansions require in upkeep.

  164. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter
    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    1h
    Trump didn’t do something, but he didn’t say he wouldn’t do something.
    Boom!
    Treason!

    Muh collusion.

    Trump did not say yes or no to meeting pooty poot.

    then senator sessioms at same meeting said no.

  165. lisab says:

    ruh roh

    “there is now more public evidence about Clinton’s collusion with Russia than there is about any such collusion by Trump.”

    washington post

  166. Tina says:

    Whether he said no or yes, did the meeting occur? No.

    If he met pooty poot is it colusion?

    He met the mexican president, is that collusion?

    Was it collusion when obumbler went to germany in 2008?

    This collusion narrative sounds so loony.

  167. lisab says:

    for bitterlaws benefit …

    if i saw someone picking on puppies … i would intervene …

  168. lisab says:

    not to mention collusion is not a crime

    conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime

    trump and putin could collude to call hillary names all day long … it would not be a crime

    they have to actually prove a crime was planned

  169. JC says:

    lisab says:
    November 1, 2017 at 11:55 pm

    ruh roh

    “there is now more public evidence about Clinton’s collusion with Russia than there is about any such collusion by Trump.”

    washington post
    ——————–

    That’s been evident since this kangaroo circus was concocted out of thin air 11 months ago. In fact, Clinton’s dealings with Russia were well known during the election, but the press ignored it.

  170. Mr.Vito says:

    Nice to see the DisAstros win the series.

  171. JC says:

    The Houston A**holes are the new world champions.

  172. Mr.Vito says:

    DW will be happy a red state won.

  173. lisab says:

    Gisele Bündchen and Tom Brady win Halloween with adorable avocado-and-toast costumes

  174. lisab says:

    Nice to see the DisAstros win the series.
    ————————————-

    a guy at my gym got all excited earlier when la had men on all three bases …

    i by accident made the briefest of eye contact, before realizing my error, and he almost talked to me

    fortunately i quickly looked away … but it was a close call

  175. lisab says:

    White men need not apply.

    That’s the message from a Democratic National Committee data services manager, currently on the hunt to filll multiple vacancies in the tech department.

    The political organization, which routinely makes grand statements about inclusion, recently sent an email to its employees looking to recruit people for eight open spots including IT Systems Administrator, Product Manager and Chief Security Officer.

    Though the Oct. 30 email says that the DNC is looking for a “staff of diverse voices and life experiences,” it apparently doesn’t mean white men.

    DNC’s Data Service Manager Madeleine Leader purportedly wrote in an email that the desire for diversity excludes “cisgender straight white males.”

  176. Tina says:

    Lisab is checking out the vpls of the men at the gym.

  177. lisab says:

    vpls
    ——————————

    their virtual private lan services?

    no … they just come over to the tvs to watch the sports. the bikes are next to the tvs.

    did you know there is sports on tv every day!

  178. Tina says:

    Aka vpo.

    I do mot do gyms.

  179. lisab says:

    i don’t like gym’s much either

    but they have really nice spinning classes and a huge weight set. i have actually never seen a gym with such a big selection of weights

    not that i go near them … but i have seen them.

    i suppose they could be hollow …

  180. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I am so proud of you. You learned a new term – virtue signaling. Of course, you now over use it.

    I have said for years that not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslim terrorists are Muslims. If you want to deny that at HHR there are posters who are suspicious of Muslims generally, go ahead. I disagree. As for illegal immigration, I do think that for some people, there is a degree of anti-Hispanic sentiment. I think the outrage would be lessened if a million Canadians or British were breaking the law to cross the border. I am sure you will deny it.

  181. Bitterlaw says:

    Congratulations to the Houston Astros. They were the best team all season and deserved to win it.

  182. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    Congratulations to the Astros, the beleaguered city of Houston and their long-suffering fans like you.
    2017 was a very exciting year for MLB.

  183. Bitterlaw says:

    Unlike New Orleans, Houston never demanded that America support them for a championship after a hurricane.

  184. NYCmike says:

    “If you want to deny that at HHR there are posters who are suspicious of Muslims generally, go ahead. I disagree.”

    -I can only speak for myself.

    I know that when out in public, I try to stay aware of my surroundings, especially the people, at all times. It’s the least I can do for the cops and the military who are on duty.

    When it comes to being suspicious of Muslims, I freely admit that any person who is between, say 16-35, and has certain characteristics, definitely gets extra scrutiny, depending on where I am.

    Of course, that suspicion also applies to MOST other people that age, as they are the ones most often associated with terror attacks, or criminality in general.

    As for Muslims in general, come and visit 5th Avenue in Brooklyn. There is a very large population of Muslims….in fact, I believe the Blind Sheik had lived here for a short time.

    As an aside, there have been several reports of some anti-terrorism police activities in the area, and the Linda Sarsour woman has been active in our area.

  185. Bitterlaw says:

    When I see somebody wearing Muslim dress, I don’t think, “Oh no. Might be a terrorist.” It is the same when I am in a casino.I don’t see a guy and think, “Oh no. He might have weapons in his hotel room for the upcoming attack.”

    If I am by myself, I don’t worry. I actually would prefer to die trying to stop a terrorist attack. Good press. Insurance for my family. I might even get a softball tournament for me.

  186. Tina says:

    Congrats, phil to the astros. I could not root for the dodgers, the arch enemy.

  187. NYCmike says:

    “When I see somebody wearing Muslim dress, I don’t think, “Oh no. Might be a terrorist.””

    What I wrote:

    “When it comes to being suspicious of Muslims, I freely admit that any person who is between, say 16-35…..Of course, that suspicion also applies to MOST other people that age…”

  188. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/11/01/shock-poll-sen-john-mccain-more-popular-with-democrats/

    -Bitterlaw said a Republican could be the Democrat nominee in 2020……he just might have picked the wrong Republican.

  189. DW says:

    Correct…red state won World Series over blue state.

  190. Bitterlaw says:

    194 Zzzzzzzzzzz

  191. DW says:

    And cool that one of the Astros players proposed to his girlfriend in the post-game interview and she accepted–along with a huge ring covered with thousands in diamonds.

    I agree with Bitterlaw that the Astros were the most complete team. I know the Dodgers had more wins, but on the whole the American league was a tougher place to pile up wins as the National League was full of really bad teams.

  192. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not say that a Republican could be the Democrats’ nominee in 2020. I said that I hoped President Trump is the Democrats nominee in 2020. McCain is a real Republican.Trump is not.

  193. Bitterlaw says:

    I did want Chase Utley to win another ring but he is a part-time player at best now.

  194. Todd McCain says:

    Trump needs to be shaped to impact on conservative policy. With the GOP in control of Congress, that can happen.

    If the Dems get control of Congress, I am fearful.

    McCain is a war hero and will always get my respect, but he is a disappointment and I think his entire purpose now is just to stick it to Trump wherever he can.

  195. mnw says:

    JC 164

    I sure hope those rural voters show up in VA like they did 2 years ago. Gillespie isn’t a natural fit, but…. neither was Trump at first.

    Mostly forgotten in my (& everybody’s) VA analysis is … the different nature of a Presidential voter turnout and an off-year GE. The POTUS years tend to have disproportionately more ‘casual voters’ showing up than the off year ones.

  196. Bitterlaw says:

    If the Dems get control of Congress, I am fearful.

    So am I. Trump will sign every bill they send him as he goes back to his roots.

  197. mnw says:

    Roanoke Times editorial: “Why the Ad Is So Damaging”

    I realize that almost nobody reads dead tree editorials any more. This fake news outfit is at great pains to say they hate Republicans too, but still don’t like the ad.

  198. Trump says:

    “For many in Trump’s America, a year to crow about”

    Cruising to Re-election. ver. Zillionth.

    This is why.

    “With unemployment declining, the local truck plant expanding and optimism on the rise, one industrial heartland region has become a microcosm of the reinvigorated America promised by Donald Trump.

    Seen from Williamstown, 300 miles (500 kilometers) west of Washington, the political tumult since Trump’s November 8, 2016 victory appears artificial to those who welcome his leadership as a break from business as usual.

    The sleepy West Virginia town is in Wood County where 70 percent of voters celebrated the anti-establishment victory. A year later, they are pledging their loyalty to the Trump revolution, praising the billionaire businessman-turned-national-leader for already delivering on his declaration to reverse their declining fortunes.

    In an elbow of the industrial Ohio River basin, barges are filled with freight. Factories lining nearby Route 7 belch smoke and steam. On the highways, trucks are loaded with sections of pipeline and water tanks used in the region’s shale gas drilling.

    The town’s pride is the Hino factory, a subsidiary of Toyota that employs 300 people. In September it announced 250 more hires. The manufacturer has outgrown its facility, and will soon relocate to bigger digs 20 miles south.

    Local truckers are benefitting from the boon. An employment agency across the bridge in Marietta, Ohio lists 898 truck-driving jobs within a 50-mile radius.”

  199. Trump says:

    “If you want to deny that at HHR there are posters who are suspicious of Muslims generally, go ahead. I disagree. As for illegal immigration, I do think that for some people, there is a degree of anti-Hispanic sentiment. I think the outrage would be lessened if a million Canadians or British were breaking the law to cross the border. I am sure you will deny it.”

    Marxist identity politics at its finest.

  200. Chicon says:

    201 – Bitter, a couple points. I think it would be more Trump signing everything he gets so he can list his “accomplishments”. Also, Trump would be relieved to actually have some bills to sign.

  201. NYCmike says:

    “Marxist identity politics at its finest.”

    -“Trump”, And Bitterlaw,

    To “Trump” – I did not re-read that part of Bitterlaw’s comment…thanks for remarking on it.

    To Bitterlaw – “As for illegal immigration,….” – You should have stopped there.

  202. NYCmike says:

    BITTERLAW KNOWS he would sign legislation….yet says NOTHING about a Congress that does not send him any.

  203. NYCmike says:

    “Trump needs to be shaped to impact on conservative policy. With the GOP in control of Congress, that can happen.”

    -Todd,

    EVERY bill that Republicans wanted to pass during the Obama years, especially the ones which were vetoed by Obama, would have been signed by Trump.

    They won’t send him those same bills.

  204. NYCmike says:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

    -This is a good read….I hope they are still fighting over control for the next 4 years, at the least.

    Didn’t Brazile help Hillary in the debates, at Bernie’s expense?

  205. NYCmike says:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10086

    -This won’t affect me, so I should NOT care about it, according to some at HHR.

  206. Chicon says:

    Mike, I believe Donald forwarded a copy of the CNN debate questions (she was working there) to Hillary to use against Trump. Wouldn’t be a surprise if it wasn’t her first effort in this regard.

  207. Chicon says:

    Donna forwarded the questions.

  208. NYCmike says:

    That is what I thought…..meantime, that link makes it sound like Brazile was very reluctant to help Hillary, and appalled at those who did.

  209. Chicon says:

    Mike, I think Donna was shocked at the extent to which the Clinton campaign had taken over the DNC, especially financially.

  210. NYCmike says:

    I see that as well, but the fact that she had helped Hillary earlier at the expense of Bernie makes me question how truly “shocked” she was.

    I do agree that she was shocked by the amount of debt they had.

    Isn’t it wonderful to see that Obama was so uncaring about budgets/debt for his party, just like for his “subjects”.

  211. Chicon says:

    Maybe this is a further “distancing” from that dope DWS in case legal trouble comes her way.

  212. NYCmike says:

    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/01/osama-papers-released-guess-partnered-al-qaeda/

    -Hillary would have continued Obama’s policies. President Trump changed/trying to change just about all of them.

    ANOTHER reason…..oh forget it, how many reasons does a sane person need?

    MD, “CG”, Robbie – Which Obama policies did you actually want changed? Why are you so unhappy that someone is trying to change so many of those policies?

  213. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    I do very much hope they go after DWS. She is a nasty one.

  214. NYCmike says:

    “This raises even more questions about Barack Obama’s deal with Iran over its nuclear-weapons program, and especially the release of $150 billion in assets to Tehran. By the time of the deal, the US had this information for almost five years. Bin Laden himself had written to his associates about the partnership with Iran being crucial to their operations. And yet Obama and John Kerry never made the ending of their state sponsorship of terrorism an explicit part of the agreement. In fact, Kerry told CNBC at the time that the Obama administration expected that some of the released assets would go to terrorist organizations:”

    -Again: How is it possible that “CG” and Robbie (forget about MD, and lil Author) can be so upset about President Trump, with the knowledge that if Hillary had won, that so much of this would have been swept under the rug, only to rear its ugly hear in the not-too-distant future.

  215. NYCmike says:

    Back to Brazile:

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/11/debbie-wasserman-schultz-was-not-good.html

    “Obama left the party $24 million in debt—$15 million in bank debt and more than $8 million owed to vendors after the 2012 campaign and had been paying that off very slowly. Obama’s campaign was not scheduled to pay it off until 2016.”

    Obama! TOO IRONIC!

  216. Trump says:

    Keeping score in the annals of Cruising to Re-election, ver MMDCXXXIV.

    “American Dream is back: 82% have ‘achieved’ or are ‘on way to achieving'”

  217. NYCmike says:

    Althouse has a very good idea:

    “I’d like a neutral outsider, a respected prosecutor, to investigate whether this was criminal. I’m not accepting Brazile’s self-interested assertion. It was bad, really bad, she keeps saying, but — magically — it was not criminal. My impression of campaign finance law — and I’m not an expert — is that many things that don’t even seem wrong have been criminalized. Brazile has it the other way around.”

    Rahm said “Never let a crisis go to waste!”.

    Let’s use their rules against them.

  218. Trump says:

    And, some details to 221:

    “America’s long national nightmare over failing to achieve the American Dream is over.

    Three years after six in 10 Americans said their dream of a great life was unachievable, now 82 percent believe their either achieved the dream or are on their way.

    “Despite persistently low levels of public satisfaction with the state of the nation, most Americans say they have achieved the ‘American dream or are on their way to achieving it. Only about one-in-five (17 percent) say the American dream is ‘out of reach’ for their family,” according to a new Pew Research Center survey.

  219. Trump says:

    But wait, there is more:

    “The switch cited by Pew would appear to put an end to years of depressing polls and surveys showing that the vague American Dream was dimming.

    In 2014, for example, CNN’s American Dream project said that 60 percent believed it was unattainable and even more said that their children would not live a better life than them.

    And just last year, the Ripon Society said that a remarkable 70 percent of middle class voters do not believe that the next generation will do as good as they have, moving the American Dream out of reach for millions.”

  220. Trump says:

    America, United. Despite the antics of the BLM thugs in the NFL:

    “The switch cited by Pew would appear to put an end to years of depressing polls and surveys showing that the vague American Dream was dimming.

    In 2014, for example, CNN’s American Dream project said that 60 percent believed it was unattainable and even more said that their children would not live a better life than them.

    And just last year, the Ripon Society said that a remarkable 70 percent of middle class voters do not believe that the next generation will do as good as they have, moving the American Dream out of reach for millions.”

  221. Trump says:

    Ignore 225. Wrong info.

    Here’s the right one.

    America, United. Despite the antics of the BLM thugs in the NFL:

    “And it crosses racial lines, said Pew. “Whites (41 percent) are more likely than blacks (17 percent) or Hispanics (32 percent) to say they have achieved the American dream. But more blacks (62 percent) and Hispanics (51 percent) than whites (42 percent) say they are on their way to achieving it. Notably, there are no significant racial or ethnic differences in the shares who say the American dream is out of reach for their families.”

  222. Chicon says:

    226 – maybe it’s remaining swamp creatures protecting their peeps. Maybe it would impede an ongoing criminal investigation.

  223. Robbie says:

    Big news on the Trump populist right. Robert Mercer, the hedge fund billionaire and primary backer of Breitbart, announced earlier today he is selling his stake in Breitbart to his daughter and distancing himself from Milo and Bannon.

    If the bulk of Mercer hedge fund money dries up for Breitbart, Trump will have lost a key mouthpiece.

  224. Robbie says:

    Sam Clovis, the wildly unqualified pick to be the USDA’s chief scientist (he is not a scientist), has withdrawn his nomination today. His nomination already faced stiff challenges and then it was revealed he was Papadopolous’ supervisor mentioned in emails and he has also appeared before Mueller’s grand jury as a cooperating witness.

  225. Trump says:

    Fu ck off, cretin.

    Go sell your hate elsewhere, as*wipe.

  226. Robbie says:

    Rough day for soccer moron I guess.

  227. Trump says:

    The cretin Robbie seems obsessed with Mueller, like he was obsessed with Brokered Convention.

    Monday must have been one hell of a letdown for the clown.

  228. Chicon says:

    229 – Fyi, Trump’s already President. Also, you seem to believe Breitbart is a problem for Trump, and you’re sad it might no longer be?

  229. Trump says:

    Cretin Robbie, have you ever defined what collusion means, and what US penal code addresses collusion?

    what a disaster of a human being

  230. Chicon says:

    233 – he’s obsessed with a white hot hate for Trump (the President). He is rarely able to discuss anything not related to Trump,

  231. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 2, 2017 at 11:48 am
    229 – Fyi, Trump’s already President. Also, you seem to believe Breitbart is a problem for Trump, and you’re sad it might no longer be?

    – Wow, your Trump shilling has corrupted your brain.

    If Steve Bannon and Bretbart lose their key financial backer, that’s bad news for them because they no longer have to the funds to operate and staff the way they want. And if Breitbart can no longer have the reach it has had, then Trump loses an important voice that has rallied his nationalist populist base.

  232. Trump says:

    The cretin cannot discuss anything.

    There is nothing there, except hate.

  233. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 2, 2017 at 11:50 am
    233 – he’s obsessed with a white hot hate for Trump (the President). He is rarely able to discuss anything not related to Trump,

    – You have a white hot desire to defend Trump at every juncture.

    At least you’ve finally ripped off the mask and been outed as a Trump or die guy.

  234. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    November 2, 2017 at 11:55 am
    The cretin cannot discuss anything.
    There is nothing there, except hate.

    – Wow. I’m discussing the politics and issues surround the president in a political forum. The horror.

  235. Trump says:

    Did you discuss the economy and its impact on politics, as*wipe?

  236. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    November 2, 2017 at 11:58 am
    Did you discuss the economy and its impact on politics, as*wipe?

    – Repeatedly. The economy is good and your boy still has a 38% approval. That’s a real accomplishment on Trump’s part. he had to work hard to make that happen.

  237. Trump says:

    Cretin-level intelligence on full display with this as@wipe.

  238. Trump says:

    Fake polls, cretin.

    Your bread and butter.

  239. NYCmike says:

    “If the bulk of Mercer hedge fund money dries up for Breitbart, Trump will have lost a key mouthpiece.”

    -This should say, IF you were really worried about this country, something like the following:

    “If the bulk of Mercer hedge fund money dries up for Breitbart, the United States will lose an entity which tries to push back against the Democrat/media journolist/Hollywood/only Big Government solution.”

  240. Trump says:

    You cannot even tell the difference between polls and votes, cretin.

    Never could.

    That is why you are a constant fuc kup.

  241. Chicon says:

    239 – good example of the obsession. You just don’t read or retain the times I disagree with Trump, such as yesterday.

  242. Trump says:

    Mueller really didn’t deliver for you, cretin?

  243. DW says:

    I saw “Mr. Arizona is locked in and moving on to Texas” made an appearance last night.

    In my election night coverage atlas I documented when a woman on ABC commented that the Clinton campaign felt AZ was locked in.

    The greater denial was as late as 1 in the morning, when CBS dumbly portrayed the election as a jump ball–could go either way. This was well after Trump had taken the lead for good in all the states he flipped.

  244. Jonesy says:

    Robbie, do you kiss your Jeb poster before going to bed?

  245. Chicon says:

    237 -:somehow, I don’t think Trump is too worried about Bannon or Breitbart. He’s pretty effective at getting his message out, much to your chagrin.

  246. Jonesy says:

    Oh my god. Trump’s pick for the all important USDA has withdrawn? How will the country survive?

    Please help us Robbie!!

  247. DW says:

    VA Governor:

    Suffolk:

    Northam 47
    Gillespie 43

  248. Jonesy says:

    4 US Appeals Judges to be confirmed this week, 3 who are women, but Robbie talks Jeb Fantasies

  249. Jonesy says:

    Northam way under 50%

  250. Jonesy says:

    Utah Robbie still pushing Gallup polls.

    Ever the drunk Pilot

  251. DW says:

    Suffolk is a newcomer to polling VA, not having polled it for Gov 2013 or Senate 2014 or POTUS 2016.

  252. DW says:

    Clinton today: There Is A Difference Between Paying For Trump Dossier And “Collusion” With Russia

    Clinton years ago: I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski….It depends on what the meaning of is, is.

  253. Jonesy says:

    CG/Corey still denies melting down on election Night. Will he also deny predicting a Hillary Landslide?

    Robbie and Corey. Two Hillary Supporters for the ages

  254. Jonesy says:

    What was Suffolk’s last poll numbers, DW?

  255. DW says:

    I still think Rush Limbaugh was right to point out that Bill Clinton was technically speaking the truth when he said “I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski” as Bill was talking TO Monica, about Hillary.

  256. Jonesy says:

    In about 20 minutes, Trump Nominee Allison Eid, will be confirmed to the 10th circuit.

    she will be the third female confirmed to the Circuit courts this week. All will be SCOTUS short listers.

    But the USDA? We are doomed

  257. DW says:

    261 – almost two months ago they had it tied, but that was at the same time Quinnipiac was saying ‘only’ Northam +10, where now Quinnipiac is +17.

    but again, here are all the recent polls showing the disparate results:

    Suffolk* 10/30 – 11/1 500 LV 4.4 47 43 Northam +4
    Washington Post* 10/26 – 10/29 921 LV 4.0 49 44 Northam +5
    Quinnipiac* 10/25 – 10/29 916 LV 4.2 53 36 Northam +17
    The Polling Company (R) 10/23 – 10/26 800 LV 3.5 43 45 Gillespie +2
    Christopher Newport Univ.* 10/20 – 10/25 812 LV 3.8 50 43 Northam +7
    Hampton 10/18 – 10/22 750 LV 4.2 33 41 Gillespie +8
    FOX News* 10/15 – 10/17 697 LV 3.5 49 42 Northam +7
    Monmouth* 10/12 – 10/16 408 LV 4.9 47 48 Gillespie +1

  258. Jonesy says:

    Dw, safe to say all these pollsters were awful in 2016, including FOX. That is why Robbie quotes them.

    SUSA? Mason Dixon?

  259. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru thinks I’m a Marxist? Well, he pretends to be a Trump supporter so I know he has lost touch with reality.

  260. DW says:

    265-no recent polling from them. But again I point out that the Hampton University polling is no GOP cheerleader.

    In the 2013 Gov race their final poll had McAwful up 6 points and he won by 2.5.

    They never did a ‘final’ as in late poll for 2014 senate, probably believing it wasn’t worth it.

  261. Mr.Vito says:

    Suffolk asked more interesting questions than the other pollsters.

  262. Jonesy says:

    Thanks DW

  263. Jonesy says:

    Do Philly area Dems hate the fact, that Carson Wentz is a Devout Christian?

  264. Trump says:

    Moron, you are the one looking at everything through Marxist identity deconstruction.

    Own it, stupid.

  265. Trump says:

    How do blacks feel or not feel? Southerners are racists?

    That’s how you roll, moron. People are just nice objects to fit into your preferred hatred.

  266. Jonesy says:

    Bitter believes in God and Carson Wentz, Trump. Excludes him from being a Marxist.

    He does defend Robbie at every turn though, which puzzles me

  267. Jonesy says:

    Allion Eid just confirmed to the US 10th. Takes Gorsuch old seat.

    Bibas of Pennsylvania up next for the #rd Court of Appeals

  268. Bitterlaw says:

    He does defend Robbie at every turn though, which puzzles me

    I do not defend him for what he says. I disagree with many if the things he has posted for years. I admire the way he tells people to F off and comes back day after day.

  269. Mr.Vito says:

    Kaine deserves reelection? 45-46
    2016 vote: 45-41 Clinton
    Regret voting for Trump? 6%
    Fav of state legislature? 37-27
    Remove Confederate statues: 30%

    Trump voters: 92-3-1 Gillespie
    Clinton voters: 94-2-1 Northam
    Other voters: edge Gillespie
    Did Not Vote: edge Northam

  270. Bitterlaw says:

    Do Philly area Dems hate the fact, that Carson Wentz is a Devout Christian?

    Wentz is devout but nobody really cares. He does not make a show of it like Tebow did. He also can throw the damn ball.

  271. Bitterlaw says:

    How do blacks feel or not feel?

    I do not know but I would not presume to state that they should or not be outraged by something.

    Southerners are racists?

    I never said that. I did say that they are pretty weak because they can’t handle cold weather or more than 2 seasons.

  272. Mr.Vito says:

    “I disagree with many if the things he has posted for years. I admire the way he tells people to F off and comes back day after day.”

    Sounds like President Trump.

  273. Trump says:

    Here’s what the cretin Robbie and low-level idiots like him don’t get:

    2016 exits example:

    Michigan

    – Trump favorable 39%
    – Trump votes 47.5%

    The only thing this cretin has is fake polls.

  274. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw will be appalled, and his support for Christie will only grow!

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/31/nyc-terror-attack-halloween-horror-would-have-been-much-worse-without-top-notch-nypd.html

    “Even more essential has been the NYPD’s intelligence division, which has long collected information about suspicious individuals. After being heavily, and in many instances unfairly, criticized for allegedly violating civil liberties, Miller’s former boss, William Bratton, shut down a particularly controversial program that the intelligence unit had run early in its existence—a so-called “demographic unit” that collected information on the location and activities of Muslims suspected of terrorist intentions.

    Another critic was New Jersey governor Chris Christie, who lambasted the NYPD for surveilling New Jersey-based Muslims and asked whether the spying was “borne out of arrogance, or out of paranoia, or out of both.” Unconfirmed news reports Tuesday night indicated that Saipov had lived for some time in Paterson, New Jersey.

    But the NYPD has not scaled back most of its vital surveillance activities. In fact, New York’s Finest, working in tandem with the FBI and other law enforcement agencies that comprise the Joint Terrorism Task Force, have continued collecting information on suspected terrorists living in and visiting the city.”

  275. Trump says:

    “Sounds like President Trump.”

    Except that Trump is always right, unlike the cretin Robbie.

  276. NYCmike says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5041457/Mosque-goer-knew-terrorist-says-did.html

    -This guy is really screwed up!*

    *My trucks are in Paterson on a daily basis.

    Yeah, no reason to feel suspicious of the men (and some women) between the ages of 16-35.//

  277. Bitterlaw says:

    continued collecting information on suspected terrorists living in and visiting the city.

    Please show the post where I said that I did not want surveillance of suspected terrorists or GFY.

    Unlike you, I am not suspicious of every Muslim between the ages of 16 and 35.

  278. Bitterlaw says:

    My trucks are in Paterson on a daily basis.

    So you won’t mind being on the suspect list, right?

  279. NYCmike says:

    “So you won’t mind being on the suspect list, right?”

    -If this is how you think, then I can see why you have NO PROBLEM with the NSA recording ALL phone calls, tweets, emails, etc.

    That is the main reason why “lone wolfs” keep happening – instead of using good, old fashioned investigative work combined with modern analytics, the PC crowd demands everyone treated the same….AS CRIMINALS.

  280. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You can call the Radnor Police and ask them to search my house any day and at any time. Nothing to find here.

    The only thing the Feds would find on my phone are my texts about practice and game times and the texts I send to parents after games when their daughter played really well.

  281. Bitterlaw says:

    the PC crowd demands everyone treated the same….AS CRIMINALS.

    Pretty ironic post for somebody who says he is suspicious of all Muslims aged 16 to 35.

  282. NYCmike says:

    “Unlike you, I am not suspicious of every Muslim between the ages of 16 and 35.”

    -I’ll re-post what I wrote before….

    Why do you always seem to get rid of the other part of what I said…..it’s almost as if you want to make me look like a religious bigot….as opposed to a person who thinks that the crime numbers (analytics) should determine who gets the most attention from the authorities, as well as concerned citizens:

    “When it comes to being suspicious of Muslims, I freely admit that any person who is between, say 16-35, and has certain characteristics, definitely gets extra scrutiny, depending on where I am.

    Of course, that suspicion also applies to MOST other people that age, as they are the ones most often associated with terror attacks, or criminality in general.”

  283. NYCmike says:

    I guess we just found a fan of the TSA…..one had to exist!

    Hey Granny, into the room for a full cavity search!

  284. NYCmike says:

    “The only thing the Feds would find on my phone are my texts about practice and game times and the texts I send to parents after games when their daughter played really well.”

    -Great, and of course, totally misses the point.

    We have our security personnel going thru softball messages from you and Scooterboy to the players parents, while the people driving rental trucks on bike paths are next in line to be looked at.

    BRILLIANT!

  285. Bitterlaw says:

    I guess we just found a fan of the TSA…..one had to exist!

    I never had a problem with going through the electronic data. Totally different than the physical searches but you knew that. You chose to ignore it but you knew that.

  286. Bitterlaw says:

    Unless people turn in other people before attacks OR terrorists are dumb enough to post on FB “I am going to rent a truck and kill people at 3:35 today” it is tough to stop every attack.

    NYC – If a 25 year old Muslim provided you with a copy of a lease showing that today was the day he could move in to an apartment, would you rent him a truck?

  287. NYCmike says:

    Newsflash: Rental truck driver was in touch for months with other persons “of interest”, but the agents in charge were flummoxed trying to decipher coded messages from Virginia to Maryland, which they thought to be of a higher priority.

    Those “coded messages” ended up being a lengthy synopsis of the 2016 Presidential election and the media, written in Koine Greek, interspersed with sporadic, yet oddly uniform messages in Quechuan, most of which simply spelled out “G F Y !”.

  288. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – If a 25 year old Muslim provided you with a copy of a lease showing that today was the day he could move in to an apartment, would you rent him a truck?”

    -No, I am NOT a rental company, and our insurance would not cover a driver NOT on our payroll.

    Any other questions which make ZERO sense?

  289. NYCmike says:

    “I never had a problem with going through the electronic data.”

    -I am NOT sure what this means, to be honest.

  290. mnw says:

    Northam flip-flopped yesterday on sanctuary cities– he says now (for the first time) that he would sign a bill to outlaw them. He had voted FOR sanctuary cities in the legislature in 2016.

    Odd he would switch suddenly. /s

    Northam still favors DLs for illegal aliens, however.

  291. NYCmike says:

    “Unless people turn in other people before attacks OR terrorists are dumb enough to post on FB “I am going to rent a truck and kill people at 3:35 today” it is tough to stop every attack.”

    -Now you are catching on.

    That is why the Feds should NOT be looking at your softball messages, and should be concentrating on the tendencies which many of these terrorists show , which is why we are now hearing about the fact that this person, or an associate of his, had been under surveillance of some sort.

    A “known wolf”, as they call it….

  292. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/new-york-city-terror-attack-confirmed-known-wolf-terrorism/

    -I should point out, because I am NOT sure if the media reported this…..this attack occurred right next to a high school with about 2000+ students.

    It could have been a lot worse than it was.

  293. NYCmike says:

    CCC

  294. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry, NYC. I forgot that I have to spell things out for you in explicit detail.

    If you were the manager of a U-Haul facility and it was up to you to decide whether to rent a truck to a 25 year old Muslim male, would you do it?

    I probably would unless he was wearing an ISIS jacket or wearing a vest with wires sticking out of it.

  295. Phil says:

    I need a status report on the whereabouts of the Gillespie pickup truck and the current safety of the pursued minority children.

    I couldn’t sleep last night worrying.

  296. mnw says:

    Northam campaign’s fingerprints are all over that ad, btw, per NRO The Corner.

  297. Phil says:

    …..but, but are the children safe? Did they get over the fence in time? Anyone know?

  298. mnw says:

    Phil

    Of the imaginary children about to be run over by Ed Gillespie’s notional pickup truck, I say, with Richard III, that “My eyes drop millstones where fools’ drop tears.”

  299. Mr.Vito says:

    “Did they get over the fence in time? Anyone know?”

    It was a dream, so it’s all good.

  300. Phil says:

    …but, but the dream scared the children! Terribly traumatic.

  301. Mr.Vito says:

    “Of the imaginary children about to be run over…”

    Those were real kids! Gillespie wants them to become a figment of your imagination! Sick!

  302. Trump says:

    First of all, the terrorist should not have been in the country.

    Just like the Boston bombers, the FBI actually interviewed this terrorist.

    However, the FBI has better things to do than bother with terrorists.

    Like protecting the Clintons, and paying Steele for a “dossier” to use to spy on Trump.

    Priorities.

    who cares about terrorists?

  303. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 2, 2017 at 12:01 pm
    239 – good example of the obsession. You just don’t read or retain the times I disagree with Trump, such as yesterday.

    – Oh, I get it. As long as you dislike an occasional Trump tweet, that means you’re not a shill for him. Wrong. You don’t get off the hook that easily.

  304. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 2, 2017 at 12:03 pm
    Robbie, do you kiss your Jeb poster before going to bed?

    – Have you spray painted yourself orange to be more like Trump?

  305. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 2, 2017 at 12:11 pm
    CG/Corey still denies melting down on election Night. Will he also deny predicting a Hillary Landslide?
    Robbie and Corey. Two Hillary Supporters for the ages

    – Just keep on lying. It’s what you do best. Your run out of argument when you have to resort to an empty claim I supported Hillary.

  306. Chicon says:

    I live every day hoping to hear that you’ve decided to “let me off the hook”. Actually, your “hook” is a good place to be.

  307. Chicon says:

    314 was for The Pilot.

  308. mnw says:

    Suppose you’re the FBI. You’ve identified the NYC soon-to-be terrorist as a suspected jihadi, & you’ve confronted (“interviewed”) him about your suspicions.

    NOW WHAT? What is it u want the FBI TO DO in that situation exactly? In the absence of any evidence that a crime is being planned, or has been committed? Arrest him for jaywalking? Or just general mopery?

  309. Mr.Vito says:

    What do you want them to do?

  310. mnw says:

    Vito

    My point is that there’s nothing they CAN do, except keep monitoring the man.

    So it’s kind of silly for some posters to keep saying, “I guess the FBI is too busy to investigate terrorists,” (sarc!)

  311. NYCmike says:

    “If you were the manager of a U-Haul facility and it was up to you to decide whether to rent a truck to a 25 year old Muslim male, would you do it?”

    -Bitterlaw,

    You are ridiculous.

    If that was my JOB?

    Of course I would rent a truck to someone. They would need to go thru the same procedures as I would have to when I rent a vehicle.

    And then go from there.

    Step by step, oh righteous one!

  312. NYCmike says:

    “So it’s kind of silly for some posters to keep saying, “I guess the FBI is too busy to investigate terrorists,” (sarc!)”

    -Which posters said that?

  313. mnw says:

    310 above; others

  314. NYCmike says:

    Oh, now I see the “Trump” comment.

    The simple fact is all of this back-and-forth is why our immigration system needs to be re-evaluated on a periodic basis. Maybe not every year, but every 5 would be a good benchmark.

    Bitterlaw and jason are on board for AT LEAST 1 MILLION new immigrants next year. Good luck screening all of them. (To be honest, 500K would be a huge number as well).

    Who else is for NO CHANGE AT ALL for the number of legal immigrants into the United States on a yearly basis, until we can show that our government can safely perform the tasks they need to do to make sure none of them are security risks?

  315. NYCmike says:

    I think our government is too busy listening to everyone’s communications, which takes away from their job of listening to those that would do us harm.

  316. NYCmike says:

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/cramer-says-trump-wants-enter-north-dakota-senate-race

    -But, but, but I thought Trump had Heidi on his plane and on stage with him a month or so ago, and was a sign of Trump fooling us again……it was one of Robbie’s “HA!” moments.

  317. NYCmike says:

    “Sorry, NYC. I forgot that I have to spell things out for you in explicit detail.”

    -Only when we do role-play!

  318. Cash Cow TM says:

    NO SMOKING

    king moons

  319. Bitterlaw says:

    Only when we do role-play!

    You said that what happens in Brooklyn stays in Brooklyn.

  320. Mr.Vito says:

    Hillary can’t even figure out “What Happened?” in Brooklyn.

  321. JC says:

    lol. CQ put out an article implying that Trump was racist! because he all for the death penalty of the NY attacker and the Vegas shooter.

    …of course, hours after being up CQ had to put out a correction.

    An earlier version of this article used a headline noting the Trump had publicly called for the death penalty in the New York attack, but not the Las Vegas shooting in particular. That discrepancy is probably related to the fact that the Las Vegas shooter is dead. We regret the error.
    https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/926160840398696448

  322. JC says:

    ugh.. typing on the phone.

  323. Mr.Vito says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    November 1, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    “…he said no such thing about the vegas shooter, who killed 58 people.”

    Well, he was dead.

    ………………………

    They must have read my post.

  324. Mr.Vito says:

    derp

  325. JC says:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/us-stocks-fed-chair-tax-reform.html
    Dow closes at record high in wild session after release of tax reform bill, Powell nomination

  326. DW says:

    333 – those who got in on the Dem election night sell-off and bought up all they could are doing pretty well. The irony is that MD was always giving solid investing advice. I wonder how he is doing?

  327. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe he sold. It would explain why he’s so pi$$ed.

  328. JC says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/11/01/surgeons-remove-639-nails-from-patients-intestines-using-magnet.html
    Surgeons remove 639 nails from patient’s intestines using magnet
    The moment surgeons retrieved 639 massive nails from a man’s intestines using a magnet was captured on video.

    The 48-year-old had apparently gobbled down the two-inch spikes, which miraculously didn’t pierce his digestive system on the way down.

    Doctors found them inside his intestines with an endoscopy and cut him open to find hundreds of nails.

  329. DW says:

    336 – Hillary voter?

  330. Bitterlaw says:

    At least he had his iron for the day.

    Tip your waitresses. I’m here all week.

  331. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/11/02/here-are-russian-facebook-ads-might-have-seen-during-election.html

    This is what people threw a fit about? Really?

    These are like cartoons compared to any random ad by a PAC… see Gillespie ad.

  332. Mr.Vito says:

    Buff Bernie might have have swayed Robbie according to lisab.

  333. Mr.Vito says:

    “At least he had his iron for the day.”

    Nailed it.

  334. JC says:

    I remember all of the ‘experts’ claiming that America would enter a great recession again and never recover after Trump won.

    Since then the market has increased by more than 25% and Trump has reached 3% growth in about half a year, something that Obama never once managed to do in 8 years.

    ABC – US will not reach Donald Trump’s 3pc growth target this year: commerce secretary
    Market Watch – Forget 4% growth: 3% would be a major feat for Trump after record drought
    NewsMax – Economists Doubt US Will Reach Trump’s 3 Growth Goal
    WSJ – Trump’s 3% Growth Target Looks Out of Reach
    CNBC – With Trump’s budget proposal, forget 3% GDP growth, according to ex-OMB director

    These elitist ‘experts’ have been making American policy for decades. And it’s becoming increasingly clear that they don’t know what they’re doing. They went to the prestigious universities, learned about Keynesian economics, and then regurgitated it as if was an unalienable truth.

    It’s like with the Regan tax cuts. Regan cut taxes without the ‘neutrality’ nonsense that if you lower taxes on one group, you need to raise it on another to ‘pay for them’. Regan didn’t, and the ‘experts’ screamed that the Fed would run out of money and the government would go bankrupt. Instead, tax revenue actually doubled. Because people had more money to spend, invest, hire, grow, and create new businesses. Which created more jobs. Which increased the number of people paying taxes.

    Every economic ‘expert’ prediction since Obama all the way up to now has been wrong. Our economic policies have been crafted by these people for decades. Is it any wonder why we have been in perpetual decline?

  335. Jonesy says:

    342. Another Bad prediction by Robbie, JC. Trump will crash the economy.

    Too much Beer and Tinfoil , I guess

  336. Jonesy says:

    Where is Sideshow Corey tonight?

  337. JC says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    November 2, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/11/02/here-are-russian-facebook-ads-might-have-seen-during-election.html

    This is what people threw a fit about? Really?
    ——————–

    I like the Jesus vs. Satan one.

  338. Diogenes says:

    Watching the race closely. The divergence in polling is due to completely different turnout models. This should be an easy win for Republicans in a neutral political environment. The incumbent Dem governor is underwater in terms of approval but Trump is affecting all races.

    We’ll be able to get some idea of the Trump effect in a statewide race. Rural virginians should mimic the voting patterns of rural voters across the nation.

  339. Diogenes says:

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16588964/america-epistemic-crisis

    Great article on why many people on this board believe such bizarre things.

  340. lisab says:

    If you were the manager of a U-Haul facility and it was up to you to decide whether to rent a truck to a 25 year old Muslim male, would you do it?
    ———————————————-

    depending on where you lived, you could be in serious legal difficulties if you did not

  341. Jonesy says:

    Many have been harsh here on McConnell’s Senate leadership, including myself, but he was a stud this week.

    Confirmed 6 Judges in last 7 days, including 4 Circuit Court Conservatives(real ones, not
    Jebbots). also confirmed many ambassadors today, including France, India, Switzerland, and Denmark.

    Great week for Mitch

  342. Jonesy says:

    Wow! Now Lizzie Warren bashed Hillary about the DNC being rigged by her.

    Knives are out for the Clinton’s

  343. Tina says:

    Any muh russian or muh wire news?

  344. Tina says:

    Yup, even the brazillle is out for her thighness.

    Jebots to go all in at defending her thighness

  345. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “If you were the manager of a U-Haul facility and it was up to you to decide whether to rent a truck to a 25 year old Muslim male, would you do it?”

    Legally your required to rent the truck, if the person has proper ID.

    If you suspicious of the individual, report the transaction to law enforcement immediately.

  346. Tina says:

    BrIlle, hillary was money laundering.

    Lol

  347. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    LoL, Tina referencing Breitbart.

    Ignorant, racist b*tch.

  348. Mr.Vito says:

    In the WAPO poll…

    Is your view of Trump very important to your vote?

    Dem 47
    Lib 46
    NoDegree 44
    Senior 43
    Rep 43
    DisapproveTrump 41
    WhtEvang 40
    Consv 38
    White 35
    Mod 34
    ApproveTrump 34
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  349. mnw says:

    No DEM votes for tax cut plan in Sen– not even Manchin. He’s a no.

    So, McCain, Corker & Flake can sink it all by themselves. And there goes the GOP House majority.

    They’ll do it too– because they CAN.

  350. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    From what I keep hearing about the tax plan, that may be best.

    I thought it was supposed to be a simple corporate tax cut?

  351. NYCmike says:

    I should also point out, this “conservative Republican” Congress has NOT once mentioned cutting spending, and the President has not mentioned the debt/deficit much, if at all.

  352. Chicon says:

    358 – they’ll do it TO SEND A MESSAGE.

  353. mnw says:

    Sinking it is “best” if a DEM House & Speaker Pelosi is “best.”

  354. Tina says:

    Rinos fot to rino.

    Mccain will ne lost, he opoosed the bush tax cute.

  355. Tina says:

    Tax cuts

  356. Tina says:

    https://t.co/Ijmv8Y3bMr

    Va drat coordinated over racist truck ad.

  357. DW says:

    Tax Cuts

    sax tuct
    cats tux
    tact sux

  358. mnw says:

    In the DEM primary, Northam said he “had the courage to stand up to ICE (Immigration and Customs Enfiecement).”

    If I had seen that earlier, I probably would have sent Gillespie a check.

    Northam’s about face on sanctuary cities is really curious– does he think anti-sanctuary voters will… like him better now & vote for him?

  359. Tina says:

    That drat is in trouble over the ad.

  360. Tina says:

    Breaking

    It is reported that mueller is investigating

    Podesta and vin weber, rino.

  361. Tina says:

    ….This is real collusion and dishonesty. Major violation of Campaign Finance Laws and Money Laundering – where is our Justice Department?
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  362. NYCmike says:

    Mnw,

    I hope you are correct in saying that a tax reform package that will take more from the middle class than give back is better than nothing.

    Even better, I hope these stories are not true, and the plan is a strong small government reduction of corporate income taxes, and let’s get the Democrats to take some hard votes

  363. mnw says:

    The perceptionnifvthecpublic, I think, is that this is a do-nothing Congress. Obamacare repeal and replace was an epic fail. Epic.

    One more epic fail, and I think voters will pull the plug on the GOP in ’18. Hope I’m wrong, because the tax cut looks close to DOA in the Senate to me.

    Certainly the. macro-effect, politically, of the GOP in Congress splintering once again trashing ANOTHER major Trump initiative should… concentrate the mind wonderfully.

    This is as good as it as going to get.

  364. mnw says:

    perception of the public

  365. Wes says:

    Northam is running one disaster of a campaign.

    I love it.

  366. mnw says:

    from Tina’s link: “law-abiding illegal immigrants” is a contradiction in terms.

  367. Bitterlaw says:

    MD said he was going to vote straight Dem on Tuesday but now he won’t vote because Dems ignored him, too, about his healthcare premiums.

    He also claims his daughter may have to go to community college because of the health care cost. If true, he sucks as a parent. He decided to retire from a great job. No need to punish his daughter.

  368. Bitterlaw says:

    I would rather have a do-nothing Republican Congress than a Dem Congress that will do many bad things with Trump’s approval.

  369. Tina says:

    All illegals are law abiding.

    Jebot

  370. Tina says:

    Maybe, by doing nothing, they are doing s9mething.

    28 percent rise in the sp or stock market?

    Atlanta fed is projecting 4.5 percent gdp for quarter 4

  371. jason says:

    Brazile threw Hillary under the bus rather gratuitously, she must really hate Debbie Downer.

  372. JC says:

    Wes says:
    November 2, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    Northam is running one disaster of a campaign.

    I love it.
    ——————

    It does seem like he’s stumbling in the homestretch ‘Martha Coakley’ style. From that horrible truck murder ad and his fumbling of the damage control, to his flip flops on sanctuary cities, To the constant negative coverage, to the now apparent dem disunity between the left and ultra left. This isn’t where you want your campaign to be near the endgame.

    He wouldn’t reverse his position of sanctuary cities so late in the campaign if they weren’t seriously nervous about the outcome. I’m guessing they’re not liking their internal polling numbers.

  373. GF says:

    Maybe, by doing nothing, they are doing s9mething. [sic]

    Bingo! Stopping bad laws from taking effect is often just as if not more important than passing good laws.

  374. lisab says:

    Brazile threw Hillary under the bus rather gratuitously, she must really hate Debbie Downer.
    ——————————————-

    the dnc probably has some knowledge of what could happen if podesta gets indicted.

    if they think they need a fall guy, hillary is a great choice. she is basically unconvictable, but makes a great scapegoat.

  375. Mr.Vito says:

    So Virginia Democrats accidentally left Justin Fairfax off campaign literature for canvassers and are now also being called racists…

    what goes around, comes around, I guess…

  376. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW says:
    November 2, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    “Tax Cuts

    sax tuct
    cats tux
    tact sux”
    ***********************************
    Big thumbs up…err…mean HOOFS up!

  377. Trump says:

    “Just look at how Trump salutes the Marine honor guard — TOTAL DISASTER — it’s not a salute, it’s a little yoo-hoo. Uniforms are a huge turn-on for him. And when he salutes the flag, he doesn’t even look at it. Total disrespect for the flag. And the salute is very weak in the wrists. Know why there’s ABSOLUTELY NO video of him hitting a golf ball? Because (pardon me for being politically incorrect) he swings like a girl. And when he slices it into the parking lot, he tees up another ball. Mr. Mulligan. Mr. Multi-Mulligan.”

  378. Trump says:

    More attacks from dum fck libs.

    “He sits at that ridiculous little desk in the Oval Office and signs a presidential proclamation as if he’s Kim Jong Un or something and he holds it up like a kid holding up his school project that his mama wrote for him. The man can barely read, that’s why he hates TelePrompter. Total lightweight.”

  379. Tina says:

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    My Twitter account was taken down for 11 minutes by a rogue employee. I guess the word must finally be getting out-and having an impact.

    Yup, get off twitter. /s

  380. NYCmike says:

    “The man can barely read, that’s why he hates TelePrompter. Total lightweight.”

    🙂

  381. NYCmike says:

    “My Twitter account was taken down for 11 minutes by a rogue employee.”

    -Heh, employees “going rogue”.

    Maybe they’ll start to appreciate Sarah Palin a little bit more?//

  382. Tina says:

    Drats are hitting northam for opposing sanctuary cities. They call him racist.

    Northam is not getting any traction to close the deal.

  383. Phil says:

    The confederate pickup has already started its morning run – getting an early start. Lots of children to run down and there are only so many hours in a day. So little time and so many minority children to crush.

  384. mnw says:

    Tom Bevan, link at RCP, cites a poll from Stan Greenberg (DEM pollster) which supports my view that “Republicans are vulnerable for ‘not keeping their promises.’ ”

    I believe Congress better pass that tax cut bill, however imperfect.

  385. DW says:

    386 – just filling in for you while you were out.

  386. NYCmike says:

    “I believe Congress better pass that tax cut bill, however imperfect.”

    -mnw,

    I agree, up until a point.

    If a tax cut bill takes more money from the middle class than it gives back…..well, why would voters want that?

    I think they should go for a simple corporate tax decrease, make the Democrats up for election have to vote YAY, or NAY, and then decide on the next step. Would Democrats favorite Republicans (McCain, Flake, Corker, Murk, Collins) vote AGAINST a simple corporate tax decrease?

    It is still a year away from the election. I do agree the electorate wants some “progress”, but a rush to pass a bad bill could be worse for next years election than having the voters see exactly who is against the corporate tax cut.

  387. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/11/02/writer-wants-to-tax-the-fk-out-of-billionaire-owner-of-gothamist-to-publicly-fund-local-journalists/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -I heard this on the radio this morning as well….the writers thought they should be paid more, get more benefits……now they will get substantially LESS.

    I received these emails on a daily basis, and 90%+ of the time, stories were written from a liberal, government-is-good perspective.

    Good riddance!

  388. JC says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 3, 2017 at 9:50 am

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/03/mother-jones-journalist-david-corn-joked-about-rape-gave-unwelcome-shoulder-rubs-emails.html

    -This is the year that keeps on giving!
    ————————

    The left are projectionists of the highest order. What ever they accuse you of, they are guilty of ten times over.

  389. NYCmike says:

    JC,

    That sure seems correct…..maybe they think they can get away with it due to their (for Bitterlaw 🙂 ) “virtue signalling”.

  390. Mr.Vito says:

    “That sure seems correct…..maybe they think they can get away with it due to their (for Bitterlaw ? ) “virtue signalling”.”

    This is not a maybe.

    First thing Weinstein said was that he would go after the NRA… Spacey came out, and major news organizations made that the story instead of assault. It’s how they get away with things for years.

  391. DW says:

    VA Governor:

    BOOM

    The Polling Company

    Gillespie 46
    Northam 43

    Their poll a week ago was Gillespie +2