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Polls Now Closed in Virginia

Let the counting…and excuse-making and recriminations…begin….

Posted by Dave at 7:00 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,854)

1,854 Responses to “Polls Now Closed in Virginia”

  1. jason says:

    Go Gillespie.

  2. EML says:

    Things to ignore on election day:
    Turnout reports
    Exit polls
    MSM

    Things to pay attention to:
    Votes

  3. Bitterlaw says:

    I set the over/under on BOOM posts (getting way too excited over one report) at 5.

  4. mnw says:

    Let’s Go G! Let’s Go Bluz!

  5. Mr.Vito says:

    click the exit poll tab there

  6. Greymarch says:

    Prediction:

    Northam 49
    Gillespie 47

  7. Greymarch says:

    AA vote doesnt turn out tonight, but rest of anti-Trump vote flocks to the polls, giving Northam a 2 point win.

  8. Todd McCain says:

    More from VA exit:

    White college grad
    Gillespie 50%
    Northam 49%

    White non-college
    Gillespie 74%
    Northam 24%

  9. MichiganGuy says:

    Gillespie takes the early lead with 1% in woohoo!

  10. Bitterlaw says:

    F–k off!

    You only say that because you are a lawyer, commute to work, your wife is Jewish, you don’t like to travel and you drink a lot of soda.

    Jason really knows his A-holes.

  11. jason says:

    White non-college
    Gillespie 74%
    Northam 24%”

    Ouch

  12. jason says:

    I have nothing to boom about, just messing with Bitters over/under

  13. Waingro says:

    Dave Wasserman?Verified account @Redistrict 2m2 minutes ago

    First results in: Gillespie wins Smyth absentees 172-85. Was 153-99 for Cuccinelli in ’13. But, we’re expecting Northam to underperform McAuliffe there.

  14. DW says:

    Gillespie off the charts in Mecklenburg COunty

  15. Skippy says:

    Gillespie is going to win this thing.

  16. jason says:

    Interesting that Gillespie is running ahead of both Vogel and Adams.

  17. DW says:

    rural areas out west popping in and Gillespie ahead of his numbers from 2014–by a lot.

  18. jason says:

    But, we’re expecting Northam to underperform McAuliffe there.”

    Well, it was a very close race, so Northam can’t afford to “underperform” in a lot of places, even if its “expected”.

  19. DW says:

    great numbers so far.

  20. jason says:

    Meanwhile, Trump had to cancel trip to DMZ due to bad weather.

  21. Mr.Vito says:

    I assume Gillespie up in Brunswick won’t hold. First returns have him up big in Fauquier, and up in Prince William.

  22. Pitchaboy says:

    My word on the street to beat the expert analysts out here again.

  23. mnw says:

    Thunderstorms, with a chance of thermonuclear detonations.

  24. EML says:

    DW, you know how this works. NoVA Dems holding off until they know how many votes they need to conjure up to overwhelm the rurals.

  25. Todd McCain says:

    Nate Cohn??Verified account? @Nate_Cohn · 3m3 minutes ago

    ? More

    Only a handful of precincts in so far, but so far Northam is running notably ahead of Clinton in very white areas rural areas; running a hair behind McAullife.

  26. Mr.Vito says:

    Okay, so 60-38 in Prince William now sounds more like it.

  27. jason says:

    Gillespie running about 2% better than Trump in Prince William. Running 9 points better than Trump in Albermarle.

  28. Mr.Vito says:

    Gillespie is outperforming his 2014 numbers in the Trump counties.

  29. JC says:

    It is far more useful to compare Gillespie’s numbers with his 2014 run than with Trump’s 2016 numbers. They form a different coalition.

  30. BayernFan says:

    BOOM BABY

  31. Todd McCain says:

    Mark Murray??Verified account? @mmurraypolitics · 55s56 seconds ago

    ? More

    Bad omen for Gillespie: With 98.7% in Chesterfield, it’s Gillespie 49.9%, Northam 49.0%

    Was Cuccinelli +8 in 2013

  32. DW says:

    RRH has called it for Northam

  33. DW says:

    Vogel running way ahead of Gillespie

  34. Just Fill Out the Census says:

    Breaking News: AP has projected VA for Northam!

  35. jason says:

    If Census predicts Northam win Gillespie has it in the bag.

  36. EML says:

    Looking about just as expected. Northam by 3-4, Dems will pick up high single digits in the HoD. Not a wipeout, but still losses.

  37. jason says:

    Well compared to 2014 Gillespie seems to be running better than his 2014 race in most of the red counties.

  38. Greymarch says:

    Northam won. Gillespie is getting the right % in the right precincts, but not getting enough turn-out.

    Simply impossible for a GOP pol to win state-wide races in VA. VA is a truly blue state.

  39. jason says:

    Gillespie running way ahead of Vogel, DW incorrect above.

  40. Jonesy says:

    Too bad.

  41. Todd McCain says:

    Dave Wasserman??Verified account? @Redistrict · 23s23 seconds ago

    ? More

    This is looking like a pretty early night, folks. #VAGOV

    Looks like this is going to get called pretty quickly.

  42. DW says:

    its over…Gillespie lost Loudoun by a lot–he won that against Warner. Oh well.

  43. Jonesy says:

    Right Grey. virginia is the new maryland

  44. Tina says:

    Yeah, done. Richard barris imdicated the same as dw

  45. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    58s
    That Loudoun County swing really will be difficult to overcome.
    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    1m
    It’s close, but Northam is about 5.5% ahead of projections.
    3
    1
    2
    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    4m
    Loudoun County going for Northam, handily right now. That’s the county we needed to see.

  46. Jonesy says:

    Trump voters must have thought Ed was too GopE

  47. Jonesy says:

    Sorry DW

  48. Todd McCain says:

    Yep, turning that off. Early night.

  49. Phil says:

    Yep, Gillespie isn’t performing in NOVA counties anywhere like he needed to.

    Did well enough in rural areas but the NOVA numbers nothing like he had vs Warner.

    Over.

  50. Greymarch says:

    #49: Trump voters are kinda like Obama voters: they will turn-out for Trump, but not anyone else. These voters are motivated by personality and cult.

  51. EML says:

    In the end, this wasnt really a tough call. Anyone who thought Gillespie was going go win is delusional. Get ready for Dem House and Senate in 2018. Got a year to get anything done.

  52. dblaikie says:

    Only half the Loudoun County vote is in. You people need to chill.

  53. Walt says:

    So right now, R candidates for Lt. Gov and AG outperforming Gillespie–but still slightly behind…

  54. MichiganGuy says:

    eml is delusional if, he thinks the Republicans are going to lose the Senate in 2018!

  55. Phil says:

    Also losing Virginia Beach narrowly. He beat Warner there by 5.

    Very disappointing performance.

    Good night.

  56. Todd McCain says:

    No way; this one is over. Northam is now ahead with really nothing in Fairfax in. Go to bed.

  57. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Scaring uneducated white people still works. Gilesspei (who gives a f**k how a loser’s name is spelled) won about the same share of the rural vote as Trump.

    He got destroyed in the suburbs. Apparently Romney Republicans didn’t feel as apocalyptic as they did with Hillary.

    Probably the same story in 2018 and 2020.

    But look on the bright side, with Dems controlling Virginia during the 2020 census, the Congressional delegation will flip from 7-4 Republican to 7-4 Dem easily.

    Oh wait that’s not the good news.

    The good news is that morons like Bob Goodlatte and Dave Brat are going to be gone.

    So much good news!

  58. Waingro says:

    Looks like the polls nailed it. Oh and Virginia is lost.

  59. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    House will go Dem easily. RCP generic congressional ballot hasn’t favored the dems this much since 2006 and 2008.

    Senate has a good chance of being split (AZ and NV flip) with Pence breaking vote. Could go farther if something amazing happens in Alabama or Texas. Texas is more likely since the number of dumb white people there is lower than most people think.

    Thanks for nominating a wing-nut. Hillary would’ve ensured a permanent GOP majority thanks to the GOP winning it all in 2020.

    Had to be greedy and go for an orange maniac. Thanks!

  60. Mr.Vito says:

    Is Loudon really only 75000 votes with 99% in?

  61. Waingro says:

    #54, EML: what deep red state do you have Dems flipping in the Senate? Not happening. They may well win the House though.

  62. Waingro says:

    #62, no chance.

  63. Waingro says:

    Landslide coming.

    “Wow, it’s early, but Republicans are trailing in 13 House of Delegates seats right now.”

  64. Jonesy says:

    62. Gop will win missouri seat. You are a dumbass pete

  65. Waingro says:

    Prepare for a lot of this style of crowing all night:

    “Gillespie was a much stronger candidate — profile wise — for NoVa suburbs/exurbs than Cuccinelli in ’09

    That he is performing so poorly speaks to Trump effect.”

    https://twitter.com/cillizzacnn/status/928063981318795264

  66. Tina says:

    Lt governor canddiate overperforming g

  67. Robbie says:

    I didn’t follow the VA race closely, but the warning signs were there all along. Trump’s approval rating is in the mid 30’s and the generic ballot currently gives Democrats about a 9 point lead. Both are indicative of a terrible atmosphere for Republicans in 2018.

    Republicans have a year to turn things around, but I hope the lesson they learn tonight is Trump’s message may have worked for Trump in 2016, but there’s no evidence it works for anyone else. On top of that, Hillary isn’t going to be on the ballot next year.

    Gillispie would have been a great governor, but the national atmosphere sunk him.

  68. Jonesy says:

    Crow all they want. Hillary is still not nominating Judges

  69. Jonesy says:

    Here comes robbie meatloaf.

  70. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:04 pm
    Here comes robbie meatloaf.

    – Good call in the VA governor’s race, Trump’s court jester.

  71. Tina says:

    Barris heads ppd.

    Flat bear lied.

  72. Cash Cow TM says:

    Jill Vogel down about 15K votes.
    But her home area of Fredrick county/Winchester, Clark County not in yet.

    Also Rockingham county still out (Harisonburg City)
    She might have a shot…

  73. Chicon says:

    I knew Robbie would come in to blame it on Trump after saying earlier it had little to do with Trump. Classic troll.

  74. Robbie says:

    (((Harry Enten)))?
    @ForecasterEnten

    Margins matter folks. Margins matter. That’s why we’ve been honking the special election margin changes, not the binary winner/loser. Margins are more predictive.

  75. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    14m
    Despite not totally embracing Trump, Gillespie didn’t win over those NOVA voters GOPe believed they will by distancing themselves from the President. What he did do was hurt the base vote in the West.

  76. Jonesy says:

    I had the guts to make a call. Robbie 2016. Coward

  77. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:09 pm
    I knew Robbie would come in to blame it on Trump after saying earlier it had little to do with Trump. Classic troll.

    – Except I didn’t blame Gillispie’s loss on Trump you shameless sack of crap Trump shill.

    Lots of factors have contributed to a terrible atmosphere for Republicans. Trump is just one of them, but it also includes a Congress that hasn’t accomplished anything.

  78. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:11 pm
    I had the guts to make a call. Robbie 2016. Coward

    – And I had the smarts not predict a race I didn’t follow.

  79. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    This will be the first time since 2009 polls underestimated Democrat in off-year, if all holds.

  80. Robbie says:

    It’s important to remember 2013 had no bearing on 2014, but tonight should be a flashing red light for Republicans and Trump. It they don’t get their act together, kiss the House goodbye.

    Dave Wasserman?
    @Redistrict

    Wow. Surveying the down-ballot wreckage for Republicans in VA. It’s not pretty. Democratic wave. Details to come…

  81. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    This will be the first time since 2009 polls underestimated Democrat in off-year, if all holds.

    These leople need to be purged.

  82. Chicon says:

    80 – you simply said earlier Trump was not a real factor. You are a classic troll.

  83. Robbie says:

    Josh Kraushaar?
    @HotlineJosh

    These Virginia results — more than Flake speech, more than Corker, more than Russia news — will do more to put a brake on GOP embrace of Trump than anything else. Elections matter.

  84. Tina says:

    Bob marshall loses his leg seat.

    This is a disaster. The rs better pass sime bills quickly and end the muh russian bs

  85. BayernFan says:

    GOP Congress is to blame, not Trump.

  86. Jonesy says:

    Is the gop going to hold the Va House ?

  87. Redmen4ever says:

    NYT is projecting an 8 point win for Northam, making the Q Poll look good. Gravis, Fox and CNU also. A lot of other polls “got some splaining to do.” Gillespie caught some momentum with the Latino ad, but crested. Vogel and Adams are running ahead of Gillespie + Hyra, but behind their opponents, and the late reporting counties are heavily Democratic.

  88. Tina says:

    Since mcamnesty rino i dicated no to tax cuts, it is doa, we are in trouble.

  89. Jonesy says:

    Marshall lost to a transgender tina

  90. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:17 pm
    80 – you simply said earlier Trump was not a real factor. You are a classic troll.

    – I know as a Trump shill you’re challenged, but I said it would be wrong to blame a loss solely on Trump. He certainly contributed to the national atmosphere that has sunk Republicans in VA tonight, but there were plenty of other factors that have led to this result like a Congress that hasn’t achieved anything.

  91. Tina says:

    Dave Wasserman ? @Redistrict
    BREAKING: Danica Roem (D) has defeated 26-year Del. Bob Marshall (R) in #HD13, becoming the first transgender person elected to VA’s state legislature.
    5:00 PM – Nov 7, 2017

  92. Tina says:

    Time for operation purge rino and phuq the gope.

  93. Cash Cow TM says:

    BOOM

    moob

  94. Tina says:

    The gope want to turn house and senate back to the drats. They are losers. Ryano and the ky bser have squandered a lot.

  95. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:21 pm
    Time for operation purge rino and phuq the gope.

    – Getting rid of people like you will be great for the Republican Party.

  96. Waingro says:

    “Wow. Surveying the down-ballot wreckage for Republicans in VA. It’s not pretty. Democratic wave. Details to come…”

    https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/928066740776554496

  97. Tina says:

    Yeah, get rid of people that reliably vote for the r and vote for you drats.

  98. Chicon says:

    Robbie says he doesn’t know enough to make a prediction of the race, but now he’s sure Trump’s one of the reasons Ed lost. Shocker. Exposed.

  99. Tina says:

    Richard Baris @Peoples_Pundit
    Bottom line: It was combination of Loudoun County getting bluer, Fairfax coming out when West did not (GOPe will learn wrong lessons from this), and Virginia basically being turned into an extension of DC. Northam romped GIllespie our pivot precincts. https://twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/928068654683615232
    5:18 PM – Nov 7, 2017

  100. Mr.Vito says:

    Yup. Looks like the GOP needs to get it’s act together.

  101. Mr.Vito says:

    its

  102. Tina says:

    Republicans aren’t going to attract enthusiastic voters b/c they are not delivering nationally. The Senate of Mitch McConnell has allowed McCain and Susan Collins to sink the Party. Mitch, who fell all over himself to thwart tea-party Senators, has allowed the selfish big-government wing to have sway. Voters will not support this do-nothing deceptive Repub status-quo.

    Ditch mitch and bounce ryano.

  103. Tina says:

    Hop fully it wakens up the r leadership that squandered monts on nithing but gorsuch and 3 muh russian investigations.

  104. Chicon says:

    It does, Vito. Passing some legislation would help.

  105. Jonesy says:

    McCain voted against two gop nominees for DoD and justice today. He is a POS

  106. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:25 pm
    Robbie says he doesn’t know enough to make a prediction of the race, but now he’s sure Trump’s one of the reasons Ed lost. Shocker. Exposed.

    – Nice try, Trump shill. If you’ll notice, Republicans have been beaten badly in all of the races in VA, not just the governor’s race. That is clearly indicative of a wave that only happens when the national atmosphere is strongly aligned against one side or the other.

  107. mnw says:

    I agree, Tina.

    If everyone was rational like Dr. Spock, this night would be a big motivator for the GOP to pass the tax cut/reform. But… McCain; all the other egomaniacs who want to be Queen For A Day.

  108. Tina says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:25 pm
    Robbie says he doesn’t know enough to make a prediction of the race, but now he’s sure Trump’s one of the reasons Ed lost. Shocker. Exposed.

    Lol

  109. Tina says:

    They need something,

    Mccain, ryan, ky losah, flakey, et al.

    Do phuqin so ething.

  110. Proud Obamacon says:

    Wow, looks like a blowout. We will take it. Good Night for us. Onward to 2018!

  111. Tina says:

    How can they claim mccain is an r.

    He is for obamacare and against tax cuts.

  112. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:30 pm
    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:25 pm
    Robbie says he doesn’t know enough to make a prediction of the race, but now he’s sure Trump’s one of the reasons Ed lost. Shocker. Exposed.

    Lol

    – Wake up, Tinfoil. Republicans are being wiped out at a levels. That’s called a wave. If you don’t think Trump’s first year hasn’t contributed to a terrible atmosphere for Republicans, then you’re dumber than I thought.

  113. Tina says:

    Mccain

    Flakey

    Maine chicklet.

    Senator planned parenthood.

    All garbage.

  114. Tina says:

    Chicon statement soeaks volume.

  115. Diogenes says:

    First and last post in a while. I am local to the area as basically a Romney Republican. Probably 30% of the Republicans I know have flipped to independents or Dem because of Trump. Granted, I’m young so these are not representative but expect more of the same nationwide IMO. The other 70% are not hardcore Republicans either. Even if Tax reform passes, if they don’t see a substantial tax cut themselves they aren’t going to show up.

    Results are still young and Virginia is one state but I can’t see how this won’t be reflected nationwide. The GOP will hold onto rural areas by beating the same drum Gillespie did but they will see significant erosion of support in the suburbs where elections are won. These female voter and young voter numbers are not pretty.

    The GOP needs to ditch giving its billionaire donor base a huge tax cut and make sure at least most of the upper middle class see one because it is not going to be pretty otherwise. Cutting corporate taxes by 15% alone like Trump wants already eats up the entirety of the 1.5 trillion the GOP set aside for tax reform. This is a gain most GOP voters won’t see. Change it to something like 5% and decreasing the top marginal tax rate to by 2% would play much better with the suburb base.

    Nobody here cares about illegal immigration or fighting culture wars. It’s about the pocketbook and the GOP hasn’t offered anyone outside of the top 1% anything.

  116. Chicon says:

    113 – blowout? Have you been looking in your drawers again?

  117. Jonesy says:

    Robbie is white trash. Ignore the coward

  118. Tina says:

    The ky meatloaf is probably the jerk that lives next to rand.

  119. Robbie says:

    Republicans may lose the House of Delegate despite the gerrymandering.

    Let that be a lesson to those who say Republicans can’t lose the House in 2018 because of gerrymandering.

    This is a statewide wave and it’s going to be felt by Republican House members. More retirements in tough districts are coming.

  120. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:34 pm
    Robbie is white trash. Ignore the coward

    – Good call on VA governors race.

  121. Tina says:

    Time for trumo to do an eo placing the congress on eo.

    If mcamnesty et al love it, then be in it.

  122. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:34 pm
    113 – blowout? Have you been looking in your drawers again?

    – Have you been paying attention to the results. Everyone rated the House of Delegates as safe for Republicans.

    They might lose it. Democrats have a;ready picked up 11 seats and need just 6 more. That’s a wave and a blowout.

  123. Chicon says:

    123 – lol, sez the one who knew nothing and just couldn’t predict. Exposed fraud.

  124. Tina says:

    He knew nuffin.

  125. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Time for trumo to do an eo placing the congress on eo.”

    Translation please?

  126. Mr.Vito says:

    Yep, second wave of exits looks more like a blowout with Gillespie getting blown out in the east… like I said yesterday, if that was the case, he would lose badly.

  127. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:38 pm
    123 – lol, sez the one who knew nothing and just couldn’t predict. Exposed fraud.

    – LOL. I’d be lashing out too if I had the rude awakening Trump shills like you are experiencing.

    I didn’t make a prediction about the governor’s race because I didn’t follow it, but these results, a top to bottom loss, are very much in line with the national atmosphere the polls have been reflecting.

    You and the other Trump shills chose to ignore all of the warning signs that things weren’t going well, but the flashing lights have been shining since March. Now, the question is whether or not you Trump or die clowns will get the message and realize Tweets storms and all of the other idiocy we’ve seen this year are not conducive to a win in 2018.

    I douby it.

  128. Tina says:

    Executive order placing congress on obumblercare.

    No exemption since the law authorizes none.

  129. Proud Obamacon says:

    Pussy Grabber just now: Ed lost because he didn’t embrace me enough

    LOL! Yeah that’s it yall. Embrace your Pussy Grabber in Chief! Do it pleeeeeeaze

  130. Robbie says:

    Such a team player. And oh by the way. The margins in those four House races were way down from election day last year. They were the canary in the coal mine.

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump

    Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!

  131. Proud Obamacon says:

    “113 – blowout? Have you been looking in your drawers again?”

    No, just looking at the numbers, that’s all sport.

  132. Jonesy says:

    gop still holds va senate till 2019 elections

  133. Tina says:

    Is g still doing worse than jill?

  134. Tina says:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/house-republicans-call-for-robert-mueller-to-resign-2017-11

    Why now, you have power of the purse, but ryan et al love to soend.

  135. Jonesy says:

    Roobie and all the other democrats, giddy tonight. They all blew 2016 , and now think a blue state loss makes up for their ignorance.

  136. Tina says:

    Jill is doing the best tonight.

    G lost a lot of rs in comparison.

    Strange.

  137. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 7, 2017 at 8:49 pm
    Roobie and all the other democrats, giddy tonight. They all blew 2016 , and now think a blue state loss makes up for their ignorance.

    – Poor Trump’s court jester. He’s so upset he got nothing to do but lie. I’ve never voted for anyone other than Republicans.

    I do like your effort at spin though. A blue state loss? Ha! This isn;t just about the governors race which you blew. It’s about the House of Delegates which no one thought would be in play and it’s in play.

    This is, sadly, a wave against Republicans. The signs have been there all year. People just chose to ignore them.

  138. Robbie says:

    Republicans now trail in 18 Delegate seats. Democrats only need 17 to win control.

    Ignore tonight all you want, but this should be a wake-up call for Trump and Republicans.

  139. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Strange”

    Strange? Yeah go ahead and embrace the Pussy Grabber and the White Surpremacists. Go ahead. Not strange at all.

  140. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!” – PUssy GRabber

    LOL WOW, I love this guy. He’s gonna single handedly win us the House in ’18 ! Go Pussy Grabber Go !!!

  141. Jonesy says:

    Northam still has to deal with Gop state senate

  142. Cash Cow TM says:

    Yeah.
    Jill Vogel also going down.

    G down 170K
    AG down 120K
    Lt. Gov. (Jill) down 92K

  143. Michael says:

    Shut up Troll

  144. Michael says:

    Hey guys, I’m in a Facebook fight with a dumb Liberal. Is it true that Ed can lose by double digits? I really hope not. Please tell me. Thanks

  145. Tina says:

    I knew nuffin.

  146. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Simple fact: you are happier being right than being wrong. Tonight sucks, but this is what happens when a legislature says they will do something, and they don’t do it. Same as in 2006. Trump has done everything that he can constitutionally do, except make Congress be on Obamacare. I am totally w Tina in that regard. You can rattle on about Trump all you want, but Congress is given the power to craft legislation, and the party in power of both houses fell flat on their face. They are the ones up for election in 2018, not Trump. They should look at their own actions before blaming others.

  147. Tina says:

    He is down 8.1Michael, per the va sos site.

    He is off 42k votes from the lt gov r candidate, jill.

  148. Jonesy says:

    Republican curtis wins utah congressional seat

  149. Tina says:

    G really underperformed. Strange that he is fong worse than the two candidates for lesser offices.

  150. Michael says:

    Oh no. So he can lose by 10 or more?

  151. Mr.Vito says:

    Late deciders went 2-1 Northam in the last week…

    Remember I showed three sets of data that said the undecideds were mostly young, male, independent.

    Looks like they showed up.

  152. Bitterlaw says:

    Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for.

    Trump stands for something? Does he want to share it with the rest of us?

  153. Jonesy says:

    Bad night no mistake. Va now the new maryland.

  154. Bitterlaw says:

    Well, I predicted that Northam would win and he did. Sucks.

  155. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Trump stands for something? Does he want to share it with the rest of us?”

    White Power!

    Run on it, Repubs! Pleeeze

  156. Tina says:

    G had a tough primary contest, barely squeaked by.

  157. Tina says:

    Likely gs fault for not being able to consolidate his base and underperforming.

  158. Bitterlaw says:

    Where is DW? I greatly respect him and I wanted him to be right but he was not. I hope he does not become the Virginian Polaris.

    Come back, DW!

  159. Tina says:

    G getting blown out.

  160. Tina says:

    He said that he was not likely to be here, bl.

  161. Paul says:

    That was fun.

    Now back to worrying about the nuclear standoff with North Korea and the upcoming armageddon between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

  162. Mr.Vito says:

    The latest exit poll is D+10 with 41% Dem, 31% Rep

    Trump approval was 40
    The GOP was even worse at only 37

    Note that Hyra only got 1%. I have said many times that Sarvis took many more votes from McAuliffe than Cucinelli. And, in the 2016 exits, a two-way race would have been 52-42 Clinton/Trump in Virginia.

    Virginia is much bluer now than it used to be. The GOP must overperform to be competitive.

  163. Chicon says:

    Mike – Robbie thinks Trump is in control of whether the gop keeps Congress. All they need to do is pass what they promised and they have a shot at staying in charge.

  164. Michael says:

    Tina, he will lose by double digits? Please say no. I dont want the dumb liberal to be right.

  165. Tina says:

    Michael, it is 9right now, so it could be.

  166. Wes says:

    Well, I was way off.

    Fundamentally Northam shouldn’t be winning this big. He is though.

    Be afraid, Republicans. I expected this to be a bellwether, and it’s not a good one.

    Gillespie ran a solid campaign. In the end, President Trump and the Republican Congress did him in.

  167. Tina says:

    We are so happy. We can take 2018 for us Ds.

    -jebot.

  168. Jonesy says:

    DW leaves, but 2016 putz Robbie stays. Sigh

  169. Mr.Vito says:

    Yes, it looks like double digits to me.

  170. Tina says:

    Jill is getting more r votes than g.

  171. Tina says:

    Jill has 44k more r votes than g.

    Huge drop off?

  172. Wes says:

    I’m sorry, DW. The Old Dominion is now Maryland South.

  173. Bitterlaw says:

    One year ago, would MD have made this post?

    Michael D Pioneers? @formmb · 8h8 hours ago
    ? More

    Not sure why we can’t have 2nd amendment rights and strong regulations? Why not start with gun owners having to purchase insurance?

  174. Wes says:

    I wanted concrete evidence Dems were in a good position for 2018. Narrowly losing to a bunch of flawed GOP nominees in congressional elections wasn’t the evidence I wanted.

    Wiping out a solid gubernatorial candidate with a milquetoast with no core principles was what I needed.

    Unless things change radically, the Trump Administration will not be a good time for Republicans electorally over the next few years.

  175. Cash Cow TM says:

    @ 91% in…
    Jill Vogel losing VA LT.Gov. race by about
    -112K votes statewide.

    Places where Jill Vogel did the worst:

    -105K Fairfax Co.
    – 42K Richmond City
    – 39K Arlington Co.
    – 29K Alexandria City

  176. Wes says:

    I guess MD has never read the 2nd Amendment, which applies regulatory authority to militias but otherwise bans infringement on individual gun osnership.

  177. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not think that Virginia is lost forever. I think that anti-Trump Dems were more motivated than Trump voters for a simple reason. Many Trumpers support Trump but are not Republicans. The anti-Trumpers were out for payback against any Republican.

  178. Mr.Vito says:

    Earlier, I agreed with Greymarch that a loss of more than 5 points was a bad sign for the GOP if the election were held today, and I still think it.

    The GOP civil war will continue it appears… I warned against this at the end of the 2016 cycle.

    Since both sides have said for a year now that it is better to burn the party for a generation for purity, I’m glad I voted for Trump and got my SCOTUS justice now.

    I came here in 2008 and have watched you guys fritter away opportunity after opportunity… both the Cruz/Levins and the Corker/Kristols.

    Amazing. You have less than a year to come together and string some legislative victories together if you want to win.

  179. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Don’t you realize that candidates just need to be more “Trumpy” to win? His worshippers like NYC, Jonesy and JC will be here all night to proclaim that only Trumpy people can win.

  180. Tina says:

    Jill now has 48k more r votes than g.

  181. Wes says:

    Right, Bitter. Trump himself won because of a perfect storm. The Trumpy canfidates doenballot weren’t quite so successful.

  182. Mr.Vito says:

    “Don’t you realize that candidates just need to be more “Trumpy” to win?”

    In fairness, being less Trumpy and part of the Washington establishment doesn’t seem to help.

    I guess when you eke out a primary you are supposed to win by a landslide, it means something.

    Clinton learned that last year.

  183. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    4m
    Replying to @vossvero and 2 others
    Just doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Trump lost the state by a slimmer margin than Gillespie, and yet GOP held those seats anyway. Trump motivates Dems, but that’s not all that happened here tonight. GOP base did not come out. That’s not on Trump, it’s on them.

  184. Waingro says:

    In terms of the Senate, it’s not so much about 2018. A Dem Takeover of the Senate is extremely unlikely. It’s more about getting enough of a buffer for 2020, when Dems will have a better chance to flip.

    Seats in states like CO, AK, NC, IA and ME (if Collins retires) could easily flip in another blue wavish environment. And if that happens: can you say total control for Dems? Nightmare scenario.

  185. Bitterlaw says:

    Time to start the autopsy:

    1. Trump voters (defined as people who either switched parties to vote for Trump or were drawn out to vote in 2016 specifically for Trump) can be counted on to vote for Trump.

    2. Trump voters cannot be counted on to vote for candidates not named Trump.

    3. Sometimes, the polls are right in the outcome even if not in the margin.

  186. Phil says:

    I see the House flipping in 2018. The suburbs will be a bloodbath in states like Pa. Fortunately, the virus won’t spread to my state as Dallas and Houston suburbs aren’t filled with the same types as Philly collar counties. Unfortunately, the House will still be controlled by Dems and I have to live under that.

    Trump faces impeachment if the Dems get control. I have no doubt about that. They will get him. Senate won’t convict but still it will be a mess.

  187. Jonesy says:

    Wes, Gop won some big gov races and chambers in 2016.

  188. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    20m
    Tisk tisk. The GOP lost Manchester mayoral race for first time since 2005. Being unproductive is starting to take a toll on the party. That’s how Americans will do you if you do nothing.

    Productive, 3muh russian invesgtions.

  189. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    51m
    I’ve heard a lot of talk about Trump’s impact in these races, but Congress approval is worse. R losses in VA House of Delegates isn’t on @realDonaldTrump. @SenateMajLdr & Senate stalls giving Americans no reason to vote for Republicans. That said, Virginia isn’t rest of U.S.

    Paging ky do nothing and the wi leaf.

  190. Wes says:

    That was then, Jonesy. The candidates who won were also mainstream candidates. Tonight a Republican who is a perfect match for his state lost in a blowout to an erratically campaigning milquetoast.

    Let’s not pretend Donald Trump wasn’t as much of a drag on Gillespie tonight as he was a boon to most Republicans last year.

  191. Trump says:

    “Don’t you realize that candidates just need to be more “Trumpy” to win?”

    Sell, being more “Jebby” doesn’t seem to work.

    And is there any candidate more Jebby than Gillepie?

  192. Trump says:

    Has Gillespie ever won an election? Any election anywhere?

    All he ever did politically was run the RNC, right?

  193. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:01 pm
    Robbie,

    Simple fact: you are happier being right than being wrong. Tonight sucks, but this is what happens when a legislature says they will do something, and they don’t do it. Same as in 2006. Trump has done everything that he can constitutionally do, except make Congress be on Obamacare. I am totally w Tina in that regard. You can rattle on about Trump all you want, but Congress is given the power to craft legislation, and the party in power of both houses fell flat on their face. They are the ones up for election in 2018, not Trump. They should look at their own actions before blaming others.

    – Shorter NYCmike: Must protect the Trump.

  194. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – NYC and Tina can spin it any way that suits them but I can tell you that in the suburbs around Philadelphia, the hatred for Trump by all Democrats and many Independents and Republicans is real. It has nothing to do with the Congress. If Congress passes a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, a tax bill, and a bill requiring the Eagles to win the Super Bowl, it is not going to matter in 2018. They hate Trump and the y will vote until after he is gone.

  195. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    Going to do some crunching tomorrow. In June, #PPDPoll found appx. 30% of Republicans said they will not vote if promise to repeal ObamaCare was not fulfilled. Starting to think they were serious. ?
    6:46 PM · Nov 7, 2017

    Stupid, but understandable.

  196. Trump says:

    “the hatred for Trump by all Democrats and many Independents and Republicans is real.”

    How’s that different from 2016?

  197. Wes says:

    Not really. Ed Gillespie opposed sanctuary cities while the Bushes seemed to be 100% pro open borders. Gillespie is an inoofensive suburbanite type without the air of entitlement the Bushes have.

    You can’t get much further removed from JEB! than Ed Gillespie.

  198. BayernFan says:

    1. ACA
    2. Immigration
    3. Infrastructure

    Those are the three issues that form a winning GOP/Trump winning coalition.

    Tax Cuts/Reform is important as it sets the table for economic growth, but it should be something that’s done quickly and is not an issue on the minds of the voters in the Rust Belt that lent the GOP, thanks to Trump, the EVs of PA, OH, WI, MI, IA and the like.

    Let those voters down, or ignore them again, and get ready to lose elections McCain/Romney style.

  199. Tina says:

    I am not spinning anything. I said the house a/d senate were and are in danger because your two favorite leaders managed to do

    Gorsuch only.

    3congrssi9mal investigations int9 muh russian

    Way to go.

  200. Trump says:

    Gillespie looks like a mouse, and is as inoffensive as green grass.

    How is he supposed to win?

    And I keep telling folks. All the antics of losers like McCain and Flake and Corker are doing is hurting inoffensive losers like Luthar trange and Ed Gillespie.

    But keep it up.

  201. Tina says:

    They oassed no significant legislation ither than the va reform.

  202. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:11 pm
    Mike – Robbie thinks Trump is in control of whether the gop keeps Congress. All they need to do is pass what they promised and they have a shot at staying in charge.

    – Right now, Trump serves as a proxy for how voters view Republicans. If you look at RCP, his approval rating almost mirrors the Republican standing in the generic ballot question.

    Passing legislation will help Republicans, but it’s not a panacea. A lot has happened in 2017 that can’t be undone. The scars will remain.

    The best thing that can happen is Trump toning down his act. Less Twitter, less airing of the grievances. Couple that with tax cuts and some other legislative accomplishment and things could improve.

    But in a midterm year, a president’s approval rating in the prime driver. Trump must get his number to 45 or higher on average.

  203. Wes says:

    Barely lost to Warner with no backing in 2014. Was blown out because Trump and other Washington Republicsns are currently toxic.

    Honestly I don’t see what Gillespie could have done differently except run in a different year. He was the best the VAGOP had to offer, but fundamentals were just too strongly against him.

  204. Tina says:

    BPut g lost 50k r votes when compared to jill.

    Strange to me.

  205. Trump says:

    Trump performed better than Gillespie did.

    How is that possible?

  206. Tina says:

    Tax cut is doa per mcamnesty.

    There will be no tax cut.

    Obamacare still remains.

  207. Trump says:

    In VA, I mean.

  208. Wes says:

    You forgot to mention Dobald Trump, who currently sports a 40% approval rating in VA, Trump.

    Congressional Republicans hurt Gillespie too, but Donald Trump also dragged him down.

  209. Trump says:

    As I said in Mar/Apr this year, GOP is slouching to minority status.

    And loving it.

  210. Tina says:

    We are phuqued due to deadenders like mccain, planned parenthoold, the main chicklet, and now mr 18percent that wants to pass law to make domestic violence offenders from owning firearms more illegal.

  211. Trump says:

    Donald Trump had 38% approval on Nov 8, 2016.

    Yet he won 306 EVs.

  212. Jonesy says:

    RRH now saying Gop did well in penn races?

  213. Trump says:

    10 months. What does the GOP have to show for it?

  214. Wes says:

    Maybe because Trump was running against an unlikable, entitled hag while Gillespie had the misfortune of running when Trump was a motivator to thr Lrft.

  215. Tina says:

    The r party is sheot under the current leadership. Get your acts together or suffer from the current defacto leader, piglos.

  216. BayernFan says:

    I think Trump’s approval rating is tied to Congress at the moment. It’s breathtaking to realize that the GOP Congress has had a President willing to sign ANYTHING they would have passed on ACA and the like and simply choked.

    Trump can easily rev up his approval by triangulating against the Dems and the GOP in congress and severing himself from GOP incompetence/intransigence.

    The GOP Congress is playing with fire here. All Trump has to do is issue an EO putting them under the ACA….make overtures to the Dems on infrastructure, and he’s golden.

  217. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:50 pm
    Barely lost to Warner with no backing in 2014. Was blown out because Trump and other Washington Republicsns are currently toxic.

    Honestly I don’t see what Gillespie could have done differently except run in a different year. He was the best the VAGOP had to offer, but fundamentals were just too strongly against him.

    – This is why I have been harping repeatedly on Trump’s approval rating since last March. It serves as a proxy for how voters feel about Republicans.

    Regular party voters may still be with Trump, but they were also with GWB in 2006. The difference then as now is the Democrats are energized and Independents have swung back to the Democrats.

    Trump is not solely responsible for the rotten atmosphere, but his antics have contributed to it. If he doesn’t want to get impeached by Democrats in 2019, he better straighten up quickly.

  218. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Donald Trump had 38% approval on Nov 8, 2016.”

    Great point. Yall need to really embrace the Orange Groper. He’s your only hope of winning any future elections!

    MORNING.IN.AMERICA

  219. Trump says:

    trump should work with Pelosi and Schumer to pass legislation.

    It’s a given that GOP can’t pass anything.

  220. Paul says:

    Trump’s speech is good. Staying on script for the most part and well written.

  221. Wes says:

    Once again, Trump was running against Hillary in 2016. She scarcely campaigned and had an investigation opened against her a week before the election.

    Keep spinning though. Donald Trump will be out of a job in three years just like congressional Republicans if he ignores reality as you currently are.

  222. Trump says:

    Why did anyone think that a two-time loser, who has never won anything anywhere, was going to win this time?

  223. Tina says:

    The GOP Congress is playing with fire here. All Trump has to do is issue an EO putting them under the ACA….make overtures to the Dems on infrastructure, and he’s golden.

    Should have been on day one.

  224. Trump says:

    10 months. What are the results?

    8% job approval?

  225. Tina says:

    Eo the indivisual mandate. Say he wont enforce it.

    Let it go to court.

    Rs will do nothing on obumblercare.

  226. BayernFan says:

    There is a reason the GOP is called The Stupid Party. Trump did what it couldn’t and didn’t think was possible. Win a presidential election by obliterating the “blue wall”. And now it has the audacity to blame Trump for this loss. This isn’t about Trump’s tweets or style or whatever. This is about the GOP Congress doing nothing to show its voters, and those that joined those ranks last year, that it knows what it is doing and is addressing the problems that brought them out for Trump and the GOP last year in such huge numbers. Trump will be fine.

  227. Tina says:

    He may lose the i mandate, but will win on the exemption to congress. It is not in statute.

  228. Wes says:

    Poster Trump thinks Americans will throttle congressional Republicans while resoundingly returning Donald Trump to the White House.

    In other news, zoologists have recently confirmed the existence of the long-rumored pink unicorn.

  229. Robbie says:

    Ed Gillispie made mistakes. He was a mainline conservative Republican who was forced to run a pro-Confederate monuments and MS-13 candidate. It lacked authenticity.

    Still, he could have made all of the right moves and probably wouldn’t have mattered. The mood would have allowed a Democrat version of Todd Akin to win.

  230. Trump says:

    GOP was elected to do 1 thing.

    Repeal Obamacare.

    Couldn’t do it.

    Slouching to minority.

  231. Tina says:

    Ed barely got passed the orimary challenger, a red flag.

  232. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:00 pm
    There is a reason the GOP is called The Stupid Party. Trump did what it couldn’t and didn’t think was possible. Win a presidential election by obliterating the “blue wall”. And now it has the audacity to blame Trump for this loss. This isn’t about Trump’s tweets or style or whatever. This is about the GOP Congress doing nothing to show its voters, and those that joined those ranks last year, that it knows what it is doing and is addressing the problems that brought them out for Trump and the GOP last year in such huge numbers. Trump will be fine.

    – The stupid party won 249 House seats and 54 Senate seats in 2014. They didn’t need Trump then to be a dominant national party.

  233. Trump says:

    GOP Congress’s 8% job approval has nothing to do with Trump.

  234. Mr.Vito says:

    “Poster Trump thinks Americans will throttle congressional Republicans while resoundingly returning Donald Trump to the White House.”

    They did the same for Obama.

  235. BayernFan says:

    Tina…. Trump gave the GOP a chance….may even give them more chances…..but he’s not on the ballot next year. When he is, he will do what it takes to get re-elected. He’s not stupid, and is a very savvy operator.

  236. Waingro says:

    So Murphy is going to win by less than 8 in NJ? That’s also surprising.

  237. Trump says:

    “– The stupid party won 249 House seats and 54 Senate seats in 2014. They didn’t need Trump then to be a dominant national party.”

    Cretin Robbie, the stupid party won on promise to repeal Obamacare.

    Couldn’t do it. Suffer, losers.

  238. Mr.Vito says:

    Americans throttled Democrats since 2008 but returned him in 2012, so the precedent is there.

  239. Wes says:

    No, Bay. This is about the GOP Congress’ failure to act AND Donald Trump’s abysmal popularity.

    Both contributed to Gillespie’s loss.

    Trying to pretend Trump was a nonfactor is like thinking you can survive in space without a spacesuit.

    It’s sheer idiocy.

  240. Jonesy says:

    GOP holds supreme court seat in penn

  241. BayernFan says:

    235….yeah they did. you’re fooling yourself. Patience with the GoP is very thin. Any other GOP candidate would probably have resulted in President Hillary, ahem Senate and a slim GOP House.

    Essentially, Imo, this is the GOP Congress’ last chance to show its own voters that it’s worth a damn.

    They are blowing it. It’s ALL on them. Not Trump.

  242. Trump says:

    “Read my lips, no new taxes”

    Part 2.

  243. Tina says:

    9 point thumping.

    Lost 50k r votes compared to jill.

    Another limoncello for me.

    Piglosi and schumah are coming next. They will elevate themselves from defact leaders to actual leaders.

  244. Jonesy says:

    239. So va was the worst of the night

  245. Wes says:

    Not really, Vito. Democrats did quite well when Obama was on the ballot. It was only when he wasn’t on the ballot Dems suffered.

    In any event, if Republicans take it on the chin next year, McConnell and Ryan aren’t going to be the only ones blamed.

    As in every such instance, the man at the top will share in the blame.

  246. Trump says:

    10 months gone.

    What has the GOP done?

    Anyone?

  247. Tina says:

    Baris was not up on g winning. They did not poll the race, but his comments were alarming.

    I willl wait for his explanation for eds drop off in support compared to jill and the other candidate.

  248. Mr.Vito says:

    We actually have exits on this, y’all.

    Was ONE reason for your vote for governor today:
    16% To support Trump (96-4 Gill)
    34% To oppose Trump (98-2 Nort)
    47% Trump not factor (56-42 Gill)

    This is in a D41-R31 electorate.

  249. Tina says:

    Obumblercare will be repealed on day one.

    Tax cuts will be here by spring.

    Lyying liars. They do not care.

    It is time to dump mitchie.

  250. BayernFan says:

    Wes, your recent record of defining sheer idiocy is abysmal….so I’ll take it.

    Once Trump finds it necessary to cut loose from the GOP Congress…..if GOP incompetence gets things to that point…..you’ll understand. It’ll be lights out forth GOP and Trump’s approval will rise. A lot. Right now…they are holding him down, not vice versa.

    I understand that this is not the conventional wisdom. Just like last year.

  251. Trump says:

    Gillespie was a known commodity, two-time loser already.

    It’s not like voters didn’t know him.

  252. Robbie says:

    Wes, was tonight a turning point for you, or had you been inching in this direction? I ask because you seemed skeptical about my concerns over Trump’s rating.

  253. Tina says:

    Gorsuch and 3russian investigations, i have answered that for months.

  254. Trump says:

    Did Gillespie at least beat the Gillespie total of 2013?

  255. Jonesy says:

    Va house control hinges on recounts?

  256. Wes says:

    If anyone truly thinks Democrats won’t be emboldened and motivated should they win the House next year, then I’d like to remind my fellow Hedgehoggers of 2006 and 2008.

  257. Tina says:

    Actually, they had 7years to repeal.

    But one had to grandstand, one was concerned about abortion and planned parenthood, etc.

    Then tax cuts are doa because the same senator has ro further grandstand.

  258. Jonesy says:

    Gop has confirmed more judges in a potus first year since Reagan

  259. Trump says:

    I meant, the Cuch total?

  260. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    Once Trump finds it necessary to cut loose from the GOP Congress…..if GOP incompetence gets things to that point…..you’ll understand. It’ll be lights out forth GOP and Trump’s approval will rise. A lot. Right now…they are holding him down, not vice versa.

    – The public has made its decision on Trump as a person. They don’t like him. He’s got a roaring economy and he’s getting no credit for it. That’s a clear sign he’s being judged on his persona and nothing else. There’s little chance of coming back from that.

  261. Wes says:

    Right, Bay. How’s Senator Giffords working out for you?

    How about when you told me Christine O’Donnell would lose by -10?

    You honestly think that’s even a remotely realistic scenario?

    Let’s bet on it. St. Jude’s will be happy to get más de su dinero.

  262. Tina says:

    Then you have another senator upset because a crowd said to lock her thighness up.

    I kid you not.

    Then you have rand out of commission for a half year at least thanks to assault. He supported the tax cuts, but now will not be able to vote apparently.

    Assuming it is not doa.

  263. lisab says:

    “the hatred for Trump by all Democrats and many Independents and Republicans is real.”

    How’s that different from 2016?
    ——————————————–

    voters, especially those who tend to sit out, only vote for what they want

    northam ran on fighting trump tooth and nail, which is what his young voters wanted

    gillespie ran on him allowing virginians to keep their statues … which is not a very strong message

    in 2016 trump went to michigan and talked about creating jobs

    creating jobs is a much stronger message in michigan than allowing people to keep their statues in virginia

  264. Jonesy says:

    Curtis up 35 in utah.

  265. BayernFan says:

    I said after Trump was elected that the biggest threat to his success was not the media or the Dems…but the GOP. Once Trump sees that (theres still a lot of time before he’s on the ballot) he will act accordingly.

  266. Michael says:

    Is it true that VA has elected a Socialist and a transgender candidate. What is wrong with VA? Sick

  267. Jonesy says:

    Wes, Bay predicted a trump win in 2016. That has to be respected

  268. lisab says:

    i am guessing this will keep the mueller investigation going

    get donna brazille to shut up

    and kick up the protests again

  269. Wes says:

    Here’s a thought:

    Maybe Trump and Congress both should work to change public perceptions about them and treat this as a wakeup call.

    The fantasyland scenario where Trump is divorced from all negative outcomes and wins reelection easily while congressional Republicans hit Depression-era levels is one that will only ensure Dems elect a worse moonbat than Obama in three years.

  270. Mr.Vito says:

    There is a caveat in this in that Virginia IS dominated by DC now… not Utah, not NJ, not Penn.

    If there was going to be push back against Trump, DC is where it would be among the strongest.

  271. lisab says:

    Is it true that VA has elected a Socialist and a transgender candidate.
    ———————————

    what do you have against socialists or transgendered people?

  272. Tina says:

    More triggering tomorrow when the rinos get word of trumps sppech in sk.

    Safe spaces needed

  273. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:14 pm
    I said after Trump was elected that the biggest threat to his success was not the media or the Dems…but the GOP. Once Trump sees that (theres still a lot of time before he’s on the ballot) he will act accordingly.

    – If Trump disassociates himself from Republicans, then he’ll be a man without a party. And if he has no party, then Republicans will have no reason to continue to pretend they support him. He might be impeached with bipartisan support.

  274. Mr.Vito says:

    *NOVA is where it would be among the strongest.

  275. Trump says:

    i am guessing this will keep mcconnell and ryan whimpering under their desks.

  276. Tina says:

    Yup a wake up call, they need to do a reset.

    If trump tones it down, what can the ky losah and tyano offer?

  277. Wes says:

    He also made the above predictions I needled him about, Jonesy. It’s not as if he has an unalloyed predictive record.

  278. lisab says:

    Maybe Trump and Congress both should work to change public perceptions about them and treat this as a wakeup call.
    ——————————–

    the trouble is the gop senators like mccain don’t care at all

    they think they are untouchable, and mccain is

    i bet he is pretty happy tonight

  279. Mr.Vito says:

    “Maybe Trump and Congress both should work to change public perceptions about them and treat this as a wakeup call.”

    Bingo.

  280. Trump says:

    “Here’s a thought:

    Maybe Trump and Congress both should work to change public perceptions about them and treat this as a wakeup call.”

    Here’s a thought:

    Maybe pass a bill.

  281. BayernFan says:

    I have every confidence that most will take the wrong message …. again…..from election results. I will be surprised if Trump does as well. I don’t think he will. He’ll be fine. Trump is doing everything he can to reward the voters that elected him. It seems that judges, which is no small thing, is the only thing on which he and the GOP Congress are on the same page.

  282. Tina says:

    Do we do a regime change and do new r leadership for senate and house. If thise two are still inefffective, when do we pull the plug?

  283. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:17 pm
    Yup a wake up call, they need to do a reset.

    If trump tones it down, what can the ky losah and tyano offer?

    – Healthcare would have passed if Trump hadn’t spent the Summer pissing off the people he needed to win the vote. If he shuts up, taxes and even infrastructure can get done.

    Trump needs to leave the governing to Pence and things will turn out far better.

  284. Paul says:

    My hometown is a small town in Indiana that has been recently listed as the poorest town in the state. Almost everyone I know from the town voted for Trump. Probably something like 70% voted for Trump. However, most of them voted for Trump because he was going to give them a better healthcare system and generally make their lives better. So, they thought he was going to make their already subsidized healthcare insurance cheaper and so much better. That is what he promised. Repealing Obamacare or making it worse is not going to help them. And tax cuts for rich people and corporations aren’t going to help them either. I get a sense from many of them that they are getting disillusioned. Issues like race, patriotism and anti-immigration still probably work for them. But they are probably pretty tired of tax cuts and Obamacare nonesense.

  285. Mr.Vito says:

    “Maybe pass a bill.”

    That would be part of it.

  286. Jonesy says:

    Gop holds all county offices delco , penn.?

  287. Trump says:

    ““Maybe pass a bill.”

    That would be part of it.”

    But GOP is incapable.

  288. BayernFan says:

    276…..and that will be right up his alley bc he will be a LOT more popular. Politics is dynamic…a lot of moving parts. They may very well do something as stupid as impeach him. They may as well put a match to their own house.

  289. Trump says:

    GOP thinking that they will be rewarded for impeaching Trump?

    Ha ha ha ha

    Talk about delusional. Almost Brokered Convention level delusional.

  290. Mr.Vito says:

    Looks like no lessons will be learned tonight.

  291. Trump says:

    Pass a fu cking bill, dumbas&es.

    Not complicated.

  292. Jonesy says:

    Rrh now saying gop had a decent night outside Va

  293. Tina says:

    If pod is correct and 30percent of rs refuse to vote for failing to repeal obumblercare, we are in trouble for sure. Trump can only eo the crap out of it. It will get litigated and roberts is wobbly on obumblercare.

  294. Wes says:

    The Trumpkins on here are a goddamn cult of personality with as much knowledge of the political process as Michael or Corey has of the feel of a vagina.

    Instead of spending his time on Twitter, Trump should be sending Pence to Congress with instructions to negotiate something palatable to both sides.

    You know what President spent time working with Congress to enact his agenda rather than sending out missives?

    Ronald Reagan.

    But then what did Reagan know? He only got 90% of his agenda through a Congress featuring a Democrat House.

  295. Trump says:

    But no, the douchebags like McCain and Corker and Flake think fu cking around in the Senate is the way to go.

  296. BayernFan says:

    Wes is right about my take on COD being wrong (barely). I never predicted a Gabby winning as Senator…..I don’t think. I thought that she would be put up as a sympathetic candidate by the Dems and would be tough. But so what?

    For over a year Wes was dead wrong about pretty much everything related to the mood of the GOP and national electorate. In a BIG way. For a LONG time.

    He did get NC right, though. Well done.

  297. Jonesy says:

    Lessons will be learned vito. Agree with wes that things need to change

  298. Mr.Vito says:

    I will probably disappear again for a while, and pop back up later as usual…. got a lot going on again with the house and holidays coming up.

    You guys can get your house in order, and I’ll get mine in order.

    I think I’ll be largely more successful.

  299. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:23 pm
    GOP thinking that they will be rewarded for impeaching Trump?

    Ha ha ha ha

    – All but the core Trumpists still support Trump and even some of them might be relieved if he was gone. My guess is about two thirds of the country would be happy/relieved if Trump left office early.

    House and Senate Republicans are probably hoping Mueller finds something incriminating on Trump soon.

  300. Mr.Vito says:

    “Rrh now saying gop had a decent night outside Va”

    See my comment on DC pushback above. Still… big red flags.

    Ciao.

  301. Tina says:

    The eos on obumblercare should have been done on day one.

    Congress is unreliable.

    Do not waste anymore time on doa tax cuts thanks tomdeadenders

  302. Trump says:

    Cretin still pining for brokered convention.

  303. Robbie says:

    Is this the same Wes from the last few months?

  304. lisab says:

    as much knowledge of the political process as Michael or Corey has of the feel of a vagina.
    —————————

    doesn’t corey have a vagina?

  305. BayernFan says:

    Careful Robbie…..keeping track of “which way the wind blows Wes” may give you whiplash.

  306. Tina says:

    Congress needs tomend all 3investigationsmimto nothing and end mueller, who lied to congress that iraq had wmds under the failed bush 43.

  307. Wes says:

    For over a year Wes was dead wrong about pretty much everything related to the mood of the GOP and national electorate. In a BIG way. For a LONG time.

    What the hell does this even mean, Bay?

    Are you talking about how I said Trump wouldn’t be President?

    Well, yes, I didn’t think Trump would win; however, I did say he wouldn’t be an electoral disaster and predicted he’d outperform expectations.

    He did and in fact got almost exactly the percentage of the vote I predicted.

    I was wrong on the Electoral College. I’ve owned that several times. That Trump won against the odds though doesn’t mean Americans are somehow going to forget they hate him because of his infantile actions as President if nothing is done and Democrats maintain a hefty level of enthusiasm.

    This election was a warning to both sides.

    The Trumpkins are saying Trump has nothing to worry about.

    Someone else though portentous signs meant no impending electoral harm to her last year.

    It was just about a year ago.

    I’m struggling to recall her name…

    Oh, that’s right.

    Hillary Clinton.

  308. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:32 pm
    Congress needs tomend all 3investigationsmimto nothing and end mueller, who lied to congress that iraq had wmds under the failed bush 43

    – Yeah, that’s the ticket.

  309. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    FWIW, in Utah CD-3,it appears that the GOP candidate will prevail by about 25% although he was outspent by a 2-1 margin.

  310. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    FWIW, in Utah CD-3,it appears that the GOP candidate will prevail by about 25% although he was outspent by a 2-1 margin.

  311. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    FWIW, in Utah CD-3,it appears that the GOP candidate will prevail by about 25% although he was outspent by a 2-1 margin.

  312. Wes says:

    I love how the Trumpkins are acting exactly like the Hillary camp from last year.

    We all saw how that worked out.

  313. Tina says:

    You want imoeachment.

  314. Tina says:

    Sheeple with the triple post

  315. BayernFan says:

    Wes….. you still don’t get WHY you were so wrong for so long.

    …and why you are wrong now.

  316. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:34 pm
    You want imoeachment.

    – If he committed a crime, yes. But I don’t favor removing him just because I don’t like him. That would be a coup and that’s not even remotely appropriate.

  317. Tina says:

    Frankenstein has said no collusion.

    Burr has said the same.

    The house is off to looking at the dossier that mueller is now looking at and u1

    When does it end,

    If theynfound no,collusion, when does it end.

  318. Wes says:

    Bay, when the voters say, “We’re warning you” and politicians don’t listen, that’s a recipe for disaster.

    This was a warning.

    Need it be a harbinger of things to come?

    No.

    Will it be if Trump and the GOP Congress BOTH don’t get their act together.

    OH HELL YES.

    I rather suspect if I strictly blamed Congress, the Trumpkins would praise my every word.

    Unfortunately for them I’m also slaughtering their sacred cow and questioning his gilded invincibility.

    That they can’t allow.

  319. Robbie says:

    The take-away from 2017 is Trump is being treated by the public as a typical politician. He didn’t change the game. He didn’t change the rules. If Trump hasn’t figured that out yet, then we’ll experience another night like this next year on a far grander scale.

  320. Wes says:

    Oh, I get why I was wrong, Bay.

    I also get why your hagiographic adulation of Donald Trump is blinding you to the reality of the situation.

    Fanboyism often blinds one to warning signs until it’s too late.

    Case in point: you, PseudoTrump, and Tina.

    You’re all quite ready to place blame on the GOP Congress–where much of it belongs–but none of you is willing to take off the blinders and look at the other half of the electoral equation: President Donald Trump.

  321. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #317
    Me bad. Unfortunately, patience is not a virtue of mine!

  322. MichiganGuy says:

    Well, let’s look at the facts.

    Trump received 1,769,443 votes in 2016

    Gillespie received 1,159,740 with 99% in

    So, Trump received over 600,000 more votes than Gillespie

    So, to blame Trump for this is simply wrong.

    Gillespie never ask Trump to campaign with him. Huge mistake.

    Gillespie is an establishment politician and a former lobbyist. Trump voters did’t come out for him because of this.

    I was optimistic that they would but, I was wrong. Unlike md, I can admit I was wrong, and not have a mid life crisis about it. 🙂

    I don’t know how this will affect the 2018 elections and neither do you. Let’s calm down Virginia is a blue state. Heck, they even elected a transgender state legislator.

  323. MichiganGuy says:

    didn’t not did’t lol

  324. Wes says:

    Comparing an off-year gubernatorial election to a presidential election is how the Trumpkins now have to pretend Trump had no part in this.

    I’ve seen it all now.

    I’ve said everything I need to say.

    These guys want to be Trump’s version of the Mouth of Sauron.

    They can continue while I find something else to do for the rest of the night.

    Buenas noches.

  325. Tina says:

    Case in point: you, PseudoTrump, and Tina.

    You’re all quite ready to place blame on the GOP Congress–where much of it belongs–but none of you is willing to take off the blinders and look at the other half of the electoral equation: President Donald Trump.

    Try again

  326. Trump says:

    Trump didn’t even campaign in VA.

    Maybe Gillespie should have embraced him.

    At some point, these morons need to realize that you need to get out your base.

    But open borders amnesty does not allow you to do that, I guess.

  327. Jonesy says:

    Being a optimist , but gop held ground in the nj senate, and had decent night in penn.

    Wasserman sees a tied va house after recounts. Utah is good.

  328. Trump says:

    Why would anyone trust Gillespie?

    “I don’t think that the Gang of Eight bill is a perfect bill, no one does,” Gillespie said during an interview with Larry Kudlow on CNBC. “But it is the right approach, and it can be perfected. This amendment on the border surge will help to do that. But at the end of the day, it’s good policy and it is good politics.”

    Just another two-faced loser.

  329. Jonesy says:

    Wes is angry. Cut him slack. He was wrong on Va, as was I. He makes good points.

    Better to get womped in 2017 and wake up, then 2018

  330. Trump says:

    “Paul Logan, a spokesman for Gillespie, went a step further in a June 13 article in the Richmond Times-Dispatch. He said Gillespie opposes the bill and opposes citizenship for illegal immigrants.”

    Another election, another position.

  331. Tina says:

    Well some better news jonesy. Not great overall, but not bad.

    I have half a limoncello.

  332. Tina says:

    Better to get whooped now than at the midterm.

    We can all do better,

  333. BayernFan says:

    I have no adulation of Trump. I simply acknowledge and respect his ability to garner an electoral victory that none of the smart people thought he (or anyone else in many cases) could. I also see the politics of the situation. He can mess up sure. I don’t think he is now. He has decided to hitch his wagon (so far) to the GOP Congress which is proving to be feckless. I don’t think he is the sort to tolerate fecklessness for very long. They are holding HIM down, not vice versa.

    Maybe Mitch should resign and the GOP Senate caucus should make McCain Majority Leader?

  334. Tina says:

    I need tomanalyse further why g lost 5ok rs and underperformed in key areas.

    I will attribute final blame to all sides after baris or other pollsters comment.

  335. Jonesy says:

    Agree bay.

  336. Trump says:

    ““Gillespie ran a Jeb campaign in a Trump world. In fact, he avoided the President, and the President’s supporters noticed.”

  337. Trump says:

    “Four years ago, Ken Cuccinelli got 45% and the story was that he was too far right to get elected. This time they nominated a moderate and got the same %. Must be Trump’s fault this time.”

  338. Jonesy says:

    Actually, Gop flipped expensive senate seat in Jersey

  339. Trump says:

    Gillespie ran as much of an insipid campaign as Bob Dole’s.

    No electronic media presence, no social media presence.

    He sends campaign mailers with quotes from MSNBC (“The Tone of Negative Politics Has to Change”), Washington Post (“Many who have known him for years regard Mr Gillespie as a centrist and a pragmatist”) and Richmond Times-Dispatch (“Gillespie Urges Compassion”). That’s his message?

  340. Trump says:

    Who the hell sends campaign mailers these days, apart from Jeb Bush?

  341. Bitterlaw says:

    The Dems took all 4 School Board seats up for grabs in my town. That is all due to anti-Trump hatred.

  342. Tina says:

    Zzzzz.

    Time for me to get some r and r.

  343. Cash Cow TM says:

    99% in…

    Jill Vogel down by 139K statewide.

    Places where Jill Vogel did the worst:

    -130K Fairfax Co.
    – 43K Richmond City
    – 49K Arlington Co.
    – 29K Alexandria City

  344. Truther says:

    What a joke this site has become.

  345. Truther says:

    You have wannabee political experts, a few Democrats, a lying lawyer, and a jack of nothing.

  346. Bitterlaw says:

    We have a few lawyers. Can you be more specific? Thank you. GFY.

  347. lisab says:

    the longest serving mayor in ny, shaun hogan (d), retired

    and was replaced by …

    john buckly (r)

    in a close election

  348. lisab says:

    We have a few lawyers. Can you be more specific?
    ———————————

    we have a few jolly lawyers

  349. Trump says:

    The VA elections prove that the GOP needs Kasich, now more than ever.

  350. Trump says:

    So Gillespie got 40k less votes than his understudy.

    Wow.

  351. Cash Cow TM says:

    “recriminations begin”

    I, or I, cementing brains
    bi-RINO raising cement
    big cinnamon tire rise

  352. Truther says:

    Jolly lawyers or srupid ones? Is robbie a lawyer too? Give me a break.

  353. lisab says:

    one thing i learned in the peace corps is that what people want is a much stronger motivator that what people need

    people need food but they will buy alcohol and cigarettes

    gillespie was not selling a product people wanted

    “i don’t hate trump exactly” is not a message that resonates with trump supporters or never-trumpers

  354. Truther says:

    He was selling mush.

    I find it hard to beleive that he got less votes. I am sure Tina is lying about it.

  355. lisab says:

    Jolly lawyers or srupid ones?
    ———————————–

    i don’t know about robbie, but i have seen bitterlaw

    he’s a little … jolly …

    which actually is a good thing with the holidays coming … he can make some money on the side

  356. Truther says:

    You have seen bitterlaw? That must have been scary.

  357. Truther says:

    And then you have Wes, who takes every position. Give me a break.

  358. Cash Cow TM says:

    ‘jack of nothing”

    can think of jog
    Jo can think fog.

  359. Truther says:

    What is with all of these word rhymes?

  360. lisab says:

    not in person, i forget what the circumstances were, he was on some video that he posted

    he did not win

  361. Truther says:

    Biggest loser viseo?

  362. lisab says:

    no, some government thing i think …

    he is not VERY jolly … more young mr. kringle jolly

  363. lisab says:

    oh … unrelated aside …

    i finally did get dragged to bladerunner 2049

    it was just awful …

    the first half was ok, c-, but the last half was terrible

  364. Trump says:

    Out of 130 or so voting subdivisions (cities, counties etc.), Gillespie had WORSE MARGIN than Trump 2016 in 100.

  365. lisab says:

    a worse margin is to be expected

    obviously the dems were somewhat but not completely motivated to vote … from what i heard minority voting was down

    but the working class which voted for trump, did not show up

  366. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Utah Report: Election called for Republican Curtis, who now has a 58% to 27% lead over his Democratic opponent. Third Party candidate Bennett has 9%. About 61% reporting, the majority of the outstanding vote is from Utah County, which is going for Curtis by 70%.

    Is going to be at least a 60% – 25% cakewalk. The Democratic candidate had more money donated than the Republican candidate.

  367. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab is calling me fat. Whatever.

    Truther claims that I lie but never said what Imlied about.

  368. Bitterlaw says:

    Imlied should be “what I lied about.”

  369. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.delcotimes.com

    Nothing to see here. Just Democrats winning where they never win. Nothing to do with Trump at all.

    I spent 4 hours working at my polling place yesterday. A lot of Dems talked about Trump. No voters talked about Congress.

    This civil war needs to end immediately. There are not enough Trumpers to win elections. There are not enough non-Trumper Republicans to win elections.

  370. Bitterlaw says:

    Philadelphia just elected a DA funded by George Soros and endorsed by BLM. As a lawyer, he filed civil rights cases against the police department. He is so far to the left that The Inquirer and police union endorsed the Republican (really a party-switching Dem but at least she was actually a prosecutor).

    To sum up – Dems run wild in Pennsylvania and Virginia. Dems win county offices in Delaware County, PA for the first time in decades.

    NYC to blame all of this on John McCain and none of it on Trump when he gets up.

  371. Truther says:

    Joel B. Pollak
    Joel B. Pollak
    @joelpollak
    ·
    7h
    Every conservative on social media should note carefully the glee of #NeverTrump at a Democrat victory.

    We know whose side you are on.

  372. Phil says:

    ‘’The Civil war needs to end immediately. There are not enough Trumpers to win elections. There are not enough non-Trumper Republicans to win elections.”

    Exactly.

  373. Wes says:

    Maybe Truther should actually cite Republicans who are happy Gillespie lost.

  374. Truther says:

    Maybe, you can cite how stupid you are.

  375. Wes says:

    Accusations that Congress is nonproductive are fully accurate. This poll is of perceptions of what Trump has done though:

    https://www.axios.com/two-thirds-of-americans-think-trump-hasnt-accomplished-much-2506663466.html

    65%. Nearly two thirds.

    In other words, despite the land of unicorns and fairies Trumpkins live in where Donald Trump is the epitome of divine perfection while congressional Republicans are avatars of pure diabolism, real Americans don’t see them in such a binary way.

    They see both as bad.

    Keep thinking Trump was a nonfactor though, Trumpkins. He’ll be out of a job in three years judt as McConnell and Ryan will be if he listens to you.

  376. Wes says:

    Awesome response!

    In other words, you have nothing.

    You can’t cite a Republican who’s glad Gillespie lost because there are none.

    Now go perform a physical impossibility on yourself since you’re obviously better zt that than at providing support to your poorly reasoned arguments.

  377. Tina says:

    Bl, you do not sleep? You are posting late.

  378. Tina says:

    What can the congress pass?

    Go back to obamacaree or tax cuts?

    What can be done first, if something else?

  379. Truther says:

    Here are 2 for the memtal midget:

    Evan McMullin

    Bill Kristol.

    As your lawyer friend says GFY

  380. Tina says:

    Phil, hopefully the civil war can be ended. That would be the best thing.

  381. Trump says:

    GOP had a chance to work with Trump.

    Their bu$% hurt was bigger than their instinct for self-preservation.

    Enjoy McCain and Corker and Flake. And 8 percent job approval.

  382. Phil says:

    Well, yeah, Evan McMullin is one for sure. His tweets are disgusting relating Gillespie to white supremists, etc. Can’t argue with that one.

  383. Trump says:

    As well as the senile as& grabber and the stupid cokehead.

  384. Trump says:

    As I have maintained, slouching to minority.

    Fu ckers can’t pass a lick of a bill.

  385. Tina says:

    The rs are continue ng to fracture. I warned months ago about the lack of legislation.

    The obumblercaree repeal

    Tax cuts doa.

    This hurts.

  386. Tina says:

    We do not to be the minority in congress, but not sure the rs have the ability to stop that.

  387. Tina says:

    Google “CNN,175,Sue”
    @NolteNC
    ·
    2m
    GOP better get their sheot together.

    Who is excited about a Party that cannot govern?

    Exactly

  388. Tina says:

    Hopefully, am early wake u0 call, come together, and pass some stuff

  389. Bitterlaw says:

    I was told repeatedly by JC and Jonesy
    that Trump is the future of The GOP. Fine. The future got his ass kicked last night.

    You can’t have it both ways.

  390. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump and Congress need to get something done. Now.

    Only blaming Congress or only blaming Trump is absurd.

  391. Tina says:

    30 percent of r voters refuse to vote if obumblercare is not repealed.

    That should be the wakmup call.

    Pass some stuff asap.

    Use your majorities

    End the three russian investigations.

  392. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina. – Last night’s ass-kicking was not due to the Russia investigations.

  393. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC must be busy today. He’s usually telling me why Trump is the solution to all problems by now.

  394. Tina says:

    Bl, it is priorities. 3investigations into nothing and no legislation passed, namely tax cuts and repeal.

    We have time to right this, bit it is all hands on deck.

  395. Tina says:

    And your right the russian hoax had nothing to do with said arse kicking.

  396. mnw says:

    A thought:

    Suppose HRC had been elected POTUS one year ago today, & the GOP had won the VA Guv election last night.

    Would we all be doing our Snoopy victory dance right now? No… that would STILL suck. Really suck.

    Last night will be remembered as a speed bump, IF the GOP can get off its useless dead adz & pass tax reform.

  397. Jonesy says:

    Paul ryan and mitch are not the problem to me. It is bitter’s idol mccain that sunk healthcare

  398. Jonesy says:

    Well said mnw. Bad night, but we kept the utah seat by 30, and have to wake up

  399. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    I went to bed early, and figured I should read through to make comments.

    I got to one of Mr. Vito’s, and said to myself “That makes sense.” He was asking for BOTH SIDES to acknowledge they have done things wrong, this year and in the past.

    Of course, it was immediately followed up by ANOTHER silly statement of yours.

  400. Jonesy says:

    last 5 prez have lost va and nj gov in first year, including bush in 2001. We won 2002 midterms

  401. NYCmike says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    Earlier, I agreed with Greymarch that a loss of more than 5 points was a bad sign for the GOP if the election were held today, and I still think it.

    The GOP civil war will continue it appears… I warned against this at the end of the 2016 cycle.

    Since both sides have said for a year now that it is better to burn the party for a generation for purity, I’m glad I voted for Trump and got my SCOTUS justice now.

    I came here in 2008 and have watched you guys fritter away opportunity after opportunity… both the Cruz/Levins and the Corker/Kristols.

    Amazing. You have less than a year to come together and string some legislative victories together if you want to win.

    Bitterlaw says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    Wes – Don’t you realize that candidates just need to be more “Trumpy” to win? His worshippers like NYC, Jonesy and JC will be here all night to proclaim that only Trumpy people can win.

  402. Jonesy says:

    Bitter, i agree trump had a bad night, but please own up to mccain and collins sharing the blame. They sunk legislation

  403. Tina says:

    BL, at another site, a poster memtioned the r losses in montgomery county.

  404. Tina says:

    I think mccain deserves some blame. I know he is a war hero, but he is now against tax cuts, calling it doa.

    Where do we go next?.

    We need good tax cut bill, repeal amd replace, etc. we need some Ws here.

  405. NYCmike says:

    The one thing that is very interesting to me is the fact that both Gillespie and Cooch got about the same number of votes, but Northam seemed to get the rest, with barely anything going to the Libertarian this time around.

    What was the reason for that?

    Last time: Cooch too right-wing?
    This time: Gillespie too moderate?

    I do recall, last time, Cooch spent the last month railing against Obamacare, and almost pulled it out.
    Did Gillespie say anything about Obamacare this time around?

  406. Jonesy says:

    All the Rrh posters who predicted hillary in a route, are gloating today. Moshem says markets will crash because 13 EV virginia. Lol

  407. Tina says:

    We need to retain the al seat, as disgusting as the candidiate the rs put up there.

    I am still against him, but he needs to prevail.

    I cold be a prieock like krystal meth, etc.

  408. NYCmike says:

    ” He’s usually telling me why Trump is the solution to all problems by now.”

    -This is a VERY ODD statement.

    For the past year, I have claimed nothing like this. I have actually said CONGRESS is the solution, IF they pass the same bills on to Trump, that they passed on to Obama, who then vetoed them.

    Trump would sign the ones that Obama vetoed.

    WHY didn’t that happen?

  409. Jonesy says:

    Mccain and the swamp want divided govt tina. Mccain wants to lose the house and work with pelosi

  410. dblaikie says:

    A wake-up call is a wake-up call. Trump and Congress need to do pass the tax legislation and do something about Obama Care. That 30% of Republican voters who won’t vote if Obamacare is not repealed is huge.

    But lets not go overboard here. Frankly Virginia with its DC burbs is a blue state and if Republicans are not energized there is no chance. Same with New Jersey and urban elections in New York City and Philadelphia.

    Last nights votes show that Republicans are angry at the lack of progress on their agenda. Pass tax reform, get rid of the healthcare mandate and the midterms will be fine. Don’t do that or continue this civil war in the party and we will loose the house.

  411. NYCmike says:

    “we will loose the house.”

    -Thank GOD!

    I was scared we would LOSE the House!

  412. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You must not have read closely. I said both sides have blame. However, as I sat at the polls yesterday, I heard many people complaining about Trump. Nobody was talking about Congress. I have a friend on the School Board. She lost last night after serving 2 terms. She received huge Dem and GOP support in the last 2 elections. She had Dem friends say they could not vote for her this time because of Trump.

    Jonesy – I do not worship McCain. I respect his service and acknowledge his right to vote as he believes. Arizona keeps sending him back to D.C. He owes me nothing. He owes Arizona everything.

  413. Tina says:

    That 30 oercent number is huge indeed.

    It cannot be overlooked.

    We also have to examine why rs failed to turn out for g and why he lost r votes, compared to jill.

    Everything and anything, including trump, needs to be examined.

  414. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    In all of the hatred of Trump you speak about, what is it exactly that people are “hating”?

    His style? His ego? His past philandering?

    OR, his current actions as head of the Executive Branch?

    What do these voters want him to change?

  415. Bitterlaw says:

    I blame Congress and Trump.

    JC, db, Jonesy, and NYC blame only Congress.

    Got it.

  416. Jonesy says:

    Well said dbalkie. Media ignores the gop winning utah big against a rich dem. Also gop held onto a big supreme court seat in penn. va house looks tied, still have state senate.

    We got our butt kicked in blue states last night

  417. NYCmike says:

    “Everything and anything, including trump, needs to be examined.”

    -That is fine with me.

  418. Jonesy says:

    Bitter try reading my post. I partly blame trump.

  419. Jonesy says:

    Bitter trying being less cocky. You blew 2016 like the rest

  420. NYCmike says:

    “I blame Congress and Trump.”

    -How do you “blame” Congress?

    You seek to protect every incumbent as if they have a birthright to their seat.

    Trump can’t sign legislation without having any legislation to sign.

  421. Tina says:

    Vito, you may like this article on the proxy war between the mullahs and the saudis.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/austinbay/2017/11/08/the-saudi-arabiairan-war-escalates-n2406305?amp=true

  422. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – They hate everything about him. They hate him as a womanizing dirtbag. Some hate him for supporting Planned Parenthood. Some hate him for not supporting Planned Parenthood. Some hate his twitter fights. Most hate that they can’t believe anything he says because he believes in nothing.

  423. NYCmike says:

    And, I do blame Trump, for trusting certain people last November. His choice of Priebus and Spicer, looking back now that we have John Kelly and Huckabee Sanders, was a terrible decision on Trump’s part. Priebus did a great job in Wisconsin, and in 2016. He should NOT have been invited to the White House.

  424. mnw says:

    One other thought:

    I said before last night that I’d rather lose the VA Guv than Price’s old House seat in GA. I still feel that way. If I lived in VA, I might feel differently, I guess.

  425. Jonesy says:

    But they still love rapist bill clinton

  426. Bitterlaw says:

    423 Jonesy – I was wrong in 2016. I was right on last night but underestimated the margin of Northam’s win.

    What happened to all those new Trump voters who would lead the GOP to victory? As I thought, they only vote in big numbers when Trump is on the ballot.

  427. Trump says:

    Trump should step on the throats of GOP while they are down.

  428. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC keeps missing my statements that I would have voted for the Not Repeal and Not Replace bill.

  429. Jonesy says:

    Drudge is a dem cheerleader today. On a minimal by election?

  430. Tina says:

    I blame trump for those picks. Hoping that pence could help better on the legislative side, given his previous history there. Maybe, he was or is not being used properly. I am not blaming pence at all, however.

    Congress is to blame too. No legislation passed, yet 3investigati9ns into nothing. Its priorites are a mess, as is the leadership.

  431. Jonesy says:

    The only federal seat of the night , was won by the gop with 30 points . Utah is no trump loving state either

  432. Trump says:

    “What happened to all those new Trump voters who would lead the GOP to victory? ”

    Only morons like you believe that Trump voters want to “lead the GOP to victory”.

    If Trump voters cared a fig about the GOP, Trump would not be president.

    (However, this is the level of stupidity I expect from you.)

  433. Bitterlaw says:

    I know many Republicans who sat out last year because of Trump. Most came back to vote straight R this year. They will sit out 2020 again by not voting for a President.

  434. Jonesy says:

    He was a rookie tina. He made bad choices, but he picked gorsuch out of the box. That pick will last 40 years

  435. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – They hate everything about him.”

    -I assume they voted against him in 2016.

    Why are you so surprised they are still saying the same thing a year later?

  436. Trump says:

    How many times do voters have to say that they hate the GOP leadership before it sinks in?

  437. Jonesy says:

    437. Please bitter. You can do better than that line

  438. Trump says:

    “Bitterlaw says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:01 am

    I know many Republicans who sat out last year because of Trump. Most came back to vote straight R this year. They will sit out 2020 again by not voting for a President.”

    And yet Trump is president. Imagine how t hat happened.

  439. NYCmike says:

    “NYC keeps missing my statements that I would have voted for the Not Repeal and Not Replace bill.”

    -Where did I even mention that?

  440. Trump says:

    The GOP voters are tired of the lying corrupt cra*weasels.

    This is not rocket surgery.

  441. Tina says:

    I like gorsuch too, but the lack of legislation passed is an issue. If it continues, i will likely stay home in 2018; not that it matters here.

  442. Jonesy says:

    We might have been lucky last night , to get a drubbing and a wake up.

    Gop was caught flatfooted until the summer of 2006. We get a year to fix it

  443. Bitterlaw says:

    Jonesy is going to celebrate a Republican winning in Utah as vindication for Trump? That is like a Democrat saying that Pelosi being re-elected in 2016 meant the Democratic Party had a good night last year.

  444. NYCmike says:

    “They will sit out 2020 again by not voting for a President.”

    -This tells me that these people don’t care who governs them, as long as they hear what they want to hear.

    They are usually the loudest complainers.

  445. Tina says:

    If trump is an issue, so is mitchie. Ryan is not a leader, but can be a loyal follower.

    How many years do we stick with mitchie?,

  446. Todd McCain says:

    We might have been lucky last night , to get a drubbing and a wake up.

    Gop was caught flatfooted until the summer of 2006. We get a year to fix it

    I definitely agree with this. GOP didn’t take 2006 seriously until it was way too late.

  447. Tina says:

    Yeqh, like a pre season game, jonesy.

    We have a year to fix it.

  448. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw will stick up for the Congressional leadership, for sure.

    Reasons? It’s their birthright. They were elected to the spot, now it can only be given up, NEVER taken away.

  449. NYCmike says:

    McCain – No on healthcare vote, no replacement offered.

    McCain – No on tax reform, no replacement offered.

    Position for life.

  450. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I am not happy with Congress not passing bills. However, I am ecstatic that Congress is not controlled by Democrats because I believe Trump would sign their bills.

  451. Bitterlaw says:

    437 is not “a line.” It’s true.

  452. DW says:

    For the anniversary, here is my full rough draft of my atlas, broken up in sections:
    2016 Election Night Coverage: A Chronological Atlas

    Election Night 2016 capped off one of the most unusual presidential campaigns in history with one of the most remarkable and unexpected outcomes. The major twists and turns of the network news coverage provided here enable the reader to correlate the perspectives given by each network at any given moment. Selected for inclusion were six networks representing five data analyst teams (NBC and MSNBC shared the same data). PBS coverage lacked their own data analysis, relying on the Associated Press, so they were not included in the Atlas. The NY Times and other news agencies along with internet prognosticators occasionally appear in the atlas when appropriate.

    Each network displayed their own style and approach to election night coverage. One commonality made apparent while re-watching the coverage involves the overall lack of preparedness for the unexpected way the evening unfolded. As the results poured in and the vote tallies failed to go according to the script, networks often found themselves failing to adapt and therefore they committed embarrassing blunders. Another commonality involved the personnel. Each network employed an anchor or co-anchors, a data analyst at a large computer screen to examine real-time results against past elections, a reporter at each campaign headquarters, an analyst who reports on exit polling, and a panel of commentators including partisans. The networks differed as to the extent coverage reported on and analyzed numbers versus the amount of coverage given to commentary on the results.

    Fox News

    Fox News displayed impressive staging with the added touch of live viewers in the street visible behind the glass backdrop. Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly performed their jobs as anchors better than their counterparts on other networks. They asked good questions of the panelists especially at the moments of breaking news. However, Fox News coverage had by far the weakest data analyst in Bill Hemmer. Remarkably, he only appeared a handful of times throughout the entire night of coverage. By their own admission, Fox News expected a Clinton victory. They apparently prepped their show to be heavy on panelist comments, perhaps thinking there was no need for data analysis. Furthermore, when Hemmer did appear, he seemed lost, unable to know which counties or states to click on and fumbling badly with the math to 270 calculations. Hemmer did finally at one point figure out how to click between the 2012 and 2016 maps for MI and WI to see the color of counties flip from blue to red, but CNN had been doing that much earlier.

    Overall, the Fox News approach presented a filtered coverage of the election. The analysis of data remained mostly hidden, while the analysts on stage provided the results to viewers. This was not the network to watch for those wishing to see the numbers for themselves. Fox News did provide an election results crawl on the bottom of the screen, but almost the entire evening involved the conversations of Karl Rove, Chris Stirewalt, Chris Wallace and the other panelists.

    Fox News excelled among the networks in calling winners first in the battleground states including IA, NM, CO, GA, VA, NC, ME, NV, FL, PA (although the Associated Press called PA first) and their gutsy call of WI at 11:30 pm, a full two hours and fifty-eight minutes before anyone else would call it. However, Fox News had a few lapses in their calling of states including AZ and AK, states they never called during the coverage. Furthermore, LA, AR, and AL, states where the margins of victory were 19.64, 26.92, and 27.72 points respectively, Fox needlessly delayed 30 to 45 minutes before a call. NBC called these three states immediately upon poll closure.

    CNN

    CNN’s coverage presented somewhat of a reverse to that of Fox News. The staging was simple and straightforward. Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper led the coverage blandly and predictably. CNN no doubt expected a Clinton victory, but their show plan called for fewer panelists, less discussion, and much more focus on the numbers and the data. John King’s skills at the data analysis computer far outstripped his counterparts on the other networks. CNN wisely planned for King to be the centerpiece of their coverage, and he was up to the challenge. Additionally, he handled with ease the repeated miss-directions and inept questions put upon him by Wolf Biltzer. King provided a level of transparency that proved refreshing. For instance, he reminded viewers that it was the Clinton team making the claim that more pro-Clinton voters were forthcoming in Milwaukee or Detroit. When the numbers did not seem plausible to King, he expressed his doubts freely. Late in the coverage, King even seemed to call into question CNN’s lack of calling states by showing how no substantial votes for Clinton remained available to bring her back into contention in key uncalled states.

    Jake Tapper and Dana Bash fulfilled the role of primary analysts, Tapper proving himself more skilled than Bash at putting the results into perspective with meaningful commentary. Other analysts appeared much less frequently, and sometimes brought up interesting perspectives.

    The US senate coverage provided by CNN proved revealing as to their show preparation and results expectations. Early in the evening CNN promised to track the senate results all evening as the Democrats made their move to recapture majority control. However, once they realized the race for president would be close they dropped all coverage of the senate, focusing instead on what they never expected to happen—a tight race between Clinton and Trump.

    Overall CNN performed poorly on the projection of winners of states, lagging well behind other networks in most of the key battleground states. Furthermore, they seemed to delay calls until they fit neatly into their coverage rather than interrupting it–the standard practice on other networks. One bright spot was their instant call of MO when polls closed there, compared to other networks like Fox News that somehow took two hours and fifteen minutes to call a state with a final margin of 18.51 points. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer provided a capstone moment to illustrate their slow calls when he interrupted Trump’s victory speech to announce to viewers that CNN could now project Trump would win.

    MSNBC

    MSNBC provided sort of an oddball couple of co-anchors in Rachel Maddow and the disgraced former NBC anchor Brian Williams. With Chris Matthews on board as a primary analyst, along with frequent commentary from James Carville, MSNBC’s unique coverage dropped any pretense as to their biased support for Clinton. This situation provided some entertaining moments late in the coverage when Trump’s victory seemed certain. Data analyst Steve Karnacki seemed eager to accept uncritically any angle that would provide good news for Clinton, but at least he knew where to click and what was important to check unlike Hemmer on Fox News.

    Viewers who wished to see the liberal Democrat perspective with little interaction to the contrary no doubt found MSNBC an optimal choice.

    NBC

    Lester Holt and Susannah Guthrie were nowhere near as good as Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly, and Tom Brokaw demonstrated why his time has passed. This left Chuck Todd to carry the coverage as a key commentator as well as data analyst. Overall, NBC provided a reasonable mixture between data analysis and commentary. Oddly, Chuck Todd refused consider the state of WI worthy of analysis throughout the evening. Even after someone asked him look at WI, he dismissed the request and moved in a different direction. Perhaps he had not prepared to discuss WI and did not wish to commit the sort of gaffe made by ABC while discussing it. Overall Chuck Todd performed reasonably well given he was to carry the coverage. Sometimes Todd was even-handed, and other times he seemed eager to find good news for Clinton where it probably did not exist. Viewers might detect later in the coverage a level of irritation in Todd even though he tried to hold it in check.

    NBC’s strength in calling states involved those that should have been instant calls, but NBC was alone in calling them instantly. These included AL, AR, LA, CT and OR.

    CBS

    CBS News coverage simply was not as good as NBC, and fell much further short of the cable news networks. Their dimly lit set proved a good match for the moribund hosts, Scott Pelley and Norah O’Donnell, who seemed better suited to run a funeral home. Pelley kept repeatedly, and annoyingly making the promise that whenever CBS had any state ready to be called, whatever they were doing would be interrupted to make that call. However, CBS’s calls proved mostly reactive, frequently being the last network to call winners. Pelley and others also kept repeating over and over that Trump could not win without FL—a ‘fact’ that turned out to be false in the end.

    Early on in their coverage, CBS seemed too obsessed with exit poll data, when the actual results were available. Their display of race updates throughout the evening no doubt frustrated many viewers as CBS only provided percentage amounts for each candidate without actual raw vote totals.

    Like some of the other networks, CBS seemed incapable of finding WI on the map, but once they did and it was clear Ron Johnson would hold his senate seat, CBS stopped covering the other senate races for the rest of the program.

    Commentators Bob Schieffer and Charlie Rose demonstrated their better days were behind them. John Dickerson occasionally provided keen insights, but he could easily shine given the lethargy around him. Anthony Salvanto provided data analysis adequately, but was not awarded enough time to dive deeply into the data. Rather than exploring data in all the key states, CBS tended to keep showing the same data over and over with nothing changed. Salvanto also failed to show comparisons between 2012 and 2016.

    Late in their coverage CBS seemed lost. As late as 12:45 a.m. and again at 1:10 a.m. CBS described the race for president as still being able to go either way. Other networks were talking about the presumed outcome of the election and speculating why Clinton lost. CBS, like some of the other networks wrongly concluded they had to wait for absentee ballots for a call of close states.

    ABC

    ABC’s coverage proved much better than CBS, but slightly weaker than NBC. They portrayed themselves as unbiased news coverage while at the same time displayed antipathy for Donald Trump—and this attitude grew throughout the evening and was full-blown after Trump’s victory became more certain. They were not far from MSNBC in this regard. George Stephanopoulos as anchor often lacked depth, and data analyst Jonathan Karl seemed unprepared for the task—at one point distinguishing between Dane County, WI and the non-existent Madison County, WI. ABC also kept two large panels of commentators active throughout the broadcast, limiting the amount of time available for election results. One panelist, Tom Llamas, set the tone early in the evening by describing Trump as already lashing out at what is happening to him—in one swipe presuming the outcome of the election and Trump’s childish reaction to it. Alex Castellanos served as the Republican strategist on the panel, and he shined throughout the evening with keen insights, while his counterpart Stephanie Cutter found her bold, confident claims early in the evening fall to pieces as the vote tallies went against Clinton. Castellanos also predicted as early at 9:22 p.m. that the rural turnout for Trump in FL would translate to positive results in MI and the Midwest.

    ABC managed to be off the air from 10:55 through 11:35 so they had no live coverage of their calls of FL and NC for Trump.

    ABC did provide the best computer graphic of all the networks for tracking the 12 battleground states on a ‘What if?’ scenario screen. Jonathan Karl was easily able to move states into each column to see the updated math and the implications for reaching 270. Once the states were called by ABC, they stayed locked into the candidate’s column leaving the remaining states in the middle. This tool proved far more useful than other networks where analysts seemed to struggle to do the 270 math—possibly an indication that they never felt there would be a need to do that math.

    ABC demonstrated slowness at calling winners, although they were slightly faster than CNN and CBS. They were the only network to delay a call on TN, a state Trump won by a margin of 26 points.

    Key participants:

    Fox News:
    Bret Baier (Anchor)
    Megyn Kelly (Anchor)
    Chris Wallace
    Brit Hume
    Dana Perino
    Karl Rove
    Bill Hemmer (Data Analyst)
    Tucker Carlson
    Chris Stirewalt
    Juan Williams
    Jennifer Griffin (at Clinton HQ)
    Carl Cameron (at Trump HQ)
    Martha MacCallum (exit polling)
    Monica Crowley
    Joe Trippi
    Mo Elleithee
    Katie Pavlich
    George Will
    Charles Krauthammer

    CNN:
    Wolf Blitzer (Anchor)
    Anderson Cooper
    Jake Tapper
    John King (Data Analyst)
    Dana Bash
    Jeff Zeleny (at Clinton HQ)
    Brianna Keilar (at Clinton HQ)
    Sara Murray (at Trump HQ)
    Jim Acosta (at Trump HQ)
    David Chalian (exit polling)
    Gloria Borger
    David Axelrod
    Michael Smerconish
    Nia-Malika Henderson

    MSNBC:
    Brian Williams (Anchor)
    Rachel Maddow (Anchor)
    Steve Karnacki (Data Analyst)
    Chris Matthews
    Nicolle Wallace
    James Carville
    Lawrence O’Donnell
    Kasie Hunt
    Joy Reid
    Steve Schmidt
    Eugene Robinson
    Katy Tur (at Trump HQ)
    Andrea Mitchell (at Clinton HQ)

    NBC:
    Lester Holt (Anchor)
    Savannah Guthrie
    Tom Brokaw
    Chuck Todd (Data Analyst)
    Hallie Jackson (exit polling)
    Andrea Mitchell (at Clinton HQ)
    Katy Tur (at Trump HQ)
    Nicolle Wallace
    Kristen Welker (at Clinton HQ)
    Peter Alexander (at Trump HQ)

    CBS:
    Scott Pelley (Anchor)
    Norah O’Donnell (Anchor)
    John Dickerson
    Anthony Salvanto (Data Analyst)
    Charlie Rose
    Gayle King
    Bob Schieffer
    Terry Moran
    Elaine Quijano
    Major Garrett (at Trump HQ)
    Nancy Cordes (at Clinton HQ)
    Anthony Mason (exit polling)

    ABC:
    George Stephanopoulos (Anchor)
    Jonathan Karl (Data Analyst)
    Martha Raddatz
    Charlie Gibson
    Byron Pitts
    Bill Kristol
    Terry Moran
    Stephanie Cutter
    Alex Castellanos
    Cokie Roberts
    Matthew Dowd
    David Muir
    Robin Roberts (at Clinton HQ)
    Amy Robach (at Trump HQ)
    Cecilia Vega
    Tom Llamas
    Kristen Soltis Anderson

    7:00-8:00: Hour of Coronation

    This opening hour was filled with jazzed coverage of Clinton breaking the glass ceiling, what went wrong with Trump who is already lashing out at his defeat, and the media reflecting on what the night means and where the country and the parties go from here. Early concerns about tight vote totals in Florida gave way to euphoric media coverage near the end of the 7 o’clock hour when Clinton retook the lead in Florida—a lead that quickly grew as 8 pm approached.

    7:00 pm

    Trump projected winner in IN (11; 11), KY (8; 19); Clinton projected winner in VT (3; 3) by all networks.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC says both campaigns fought for GA, and in VA Clinton has the lead, but it is too early to call.

    7:01 pm

    SC too close to call, but Trump leads according to NBC. Other networks, too close to call.
    GA too close to call, but Trump has edge according to CBS, other networks, too close to call.
    VA too close to call, but Clinton has edge according to CBS, Clinton said to be leading by Fox News, too early to call but Clinton leading according to NBC, other networks, too close to call.

    7:02 pm

    Chris Wallace of Fox News ‘astonished’ that SC is too close to call. Wallace suggests there could be a changing map tonight, suggesting Democrats could flip some states in the deep south while Trump might be the forerunner for future GOP candidates to win some rust belt states.
    CNN’s Jake Tapper stresses how important VA is to Clinton’s chances, and that GA is not really expected to go to her.
    Savannah Guthrie on NBC says we are headed for a cliffhanger tonight as to who will control the senate.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says we are already learning things tonight. The quick Indiana call means Republicans have come home. Todd also welcomes GA to the southeast battleground narrative that includes FL and VA.
    Scott Pelley begins the CBS panel coverage with the words “The nastiest campaign in our lifetimes has finally come to an end.”
    Fox news projects Republicans Rand Paul (KY) and Tim Scott (SC) have won re-election to the senate while Democrat Patrick Leahy (VT) has been re-elected.

    7:03 pm

    CNN’s David Chalian shows how GA exit polling reveals 79% viewed Trump as the candidate of change.
    ABC started their coverage with exit polling data showing Clinton better than Trump in all categories of temperament, honesty, etc.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC remarks that according to Chuck Todd, the senate control won’t be known until after midnight.

    7:04 pm

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN is confident that GA will be increasingly stronger for Democrats in elections to come.
    MSNBC data analyst Steve Karnacki shows minority groups in GA are turning out in greater number than in 2008 and it bodes well for Clinton.
    Andrea Mitchell reports for NBC from the Clinton campaign headquarters where Clinton hopes the night is not a nail-biter, she has written two speeches, but hopes to deliver the victory speech and shatter the glass ceiling, symbolized by the ceiling in the Javits Center. Clinton campaign is watching PA and NC. They are nervous and do not want to leave anything on the table.
    John Dickerson on CBS says that Clinton has the ‘edge’ in VA, meaning she has a slight lead but this designation is short of a ‘lean’ or projection.
    Brit Hume on Fox News says Evan Bayh was hurt by the fact he was a lobbyist who didn’t have a home in Indiana.

    7:05 pm

    CNN’s Jake Tapper stresses that PA is in play tonight due to white working class voters.
    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC remarks that if GA is too close to call it will be “a rough night at Trump tower.” Others on the MSNBC panel discuss the likelihood that Clinton sweeps all the states on the eastern seaboard (FL, GA, SC, NC, VA and the northeast).
    Gayle King on CBS says that people may have been disgusted by the choices, but indications are that they turned out to vote today.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC says it is virtually impossible for Trump to win without FL.
    CNN’s John King looks at Vigo County, Indiana, which always seems to pick the winner, and Trump leads by a sizable margin. Either they are right and Trump wins, or else their streak of picking the winner ends.

    7:06 pm

    ABC’s Robin Roberts at the Clinton campaign headquarters finds a celebratory mood and took note of the glass ceiling above. She says there is even a larger crowd outside the hall.
    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC says that the Trump strategy of reaching left behind white voters is doomed for failure.
    Katy Tur reporting for NBC at the Trump headquarters says they are confident, but other sources are less confident saying it will be very close. Trump’s campaign is focusing on their core four: FL, OH, NC and IA. From there the strategy is MI, but there is an acknowledgement that Trump was the underdog in this race from the beginning.
    Charlie Rose on CBS comments on the expected divide between urban and rural voters.
    Elaine Quijano on CBS stresses the importance of millennial generation voters, but is looking at their turnout, and the potential they will be voting third-party.
    Karl Rove on Fox says the Democrats did not perform as well in FL early voting compared to 2012, providing an opening for Trump. Chris Stirewalt says Trump will do much better than Romney in the FL panhandle because he is doing much better with working class white voters.

    7:07 pm

    CNN takes their first look at the first returns from FL. John King says for Clinton to win, she has to run up the score in southeast FL.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC mocks the Republican strategy of ceding 25% of the electorate to the Democrat Party forcing them to win 2 out 3 remaining voters.
    Lester Holt on NBC expresses some surprise that GA is too close to call. Chuck Todd responds saying it is now firmly a battleground state. Conversely he says Trump finally discovered MI is a problem for Democrats.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS says that it will be extremely difficult for Trump to win the election unless he wins VA—he would have to win someplace where we didn’t think he would win. He says right now there are no surprises, things are going the way we thought they would go.

    7:08 pm

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC describes Trump’s approach as appealing to white nationalistic pride, and they don’t think it is going to work. She calls this approach ‘creepy.’
    CBS’s Major Garrett at the Trump headquarters says the Trump campaign has deep anxiety over what they are seeing in FL right now. He points to a tweet from Trump that says “Don’t let up, keep getting out to vote – this election is FAR FROM OVER! We are doing well, but there is much time left. GO FLORIDA!” Garrett says there is no path to the presidency without FL. He says they are concerned about the Latino vote there.
    CNN reports there are computer glitches in NC resulting in the polls staying open until 8:30 in Durham.

    7:09 pm

    ABC’s Amy Robach at the Trump headquarters points out that the red ball cap is the symbol of their campaign.
    Tom Brokaw on NBC says Republicans have rejected Hispanics, and the country is a changing map, and candidates have not figured out how to get ahead of the curve.
    Nancy Cordes reporting for CBS at the Clinton headquarters says all their early data matches up with what they expected, so this is good news for them. They are especially heartened by their turnout in key districts in FL. She can win without FL, but Trump cannot. They are not seeing any secret Trump voter. They are not seeing a huge drop-off among African-American vote, and Latinos are finding their voice tonight.
    Fox News exit polling shows ‘first-time voters’ nationally going to Clinton 55%-37% over Trump.

    7:10 pm

    Chris Matthews mocks Rudy Giuliani while interviewing him on MSNBC over Matthews’ premise that the Trump campaign has ceded 25% of the vote to Clinton.
    Chuck Todd on NBC takes their first look at the battleground states. He says if Clinton wins, it will be because of NC, GA and FL where there is large Hispanic vote. If Trump wins, it is because he over-performed in PA, MI, MN, and WI where there is not as much Hispanic vote.
    George Stephanopoulos on ABC admits that at the beginning he believed there was ‘no way’ Trump would be the nominee. Tom Llamas says never doubt how highly Trump thinks of himself.

    7:11 pm

    CBS interviews Kellyanne Conway, who says the race is a jump-ball. Conway says she feels good about IA and OH, while FL and NC are tossups, and that there are multiple paths for Trump to reach 270.
    CNN reports that Patrick Leahy has won re-election in VT; Rand Paul has won in KY; and Tim Scott has won re-election to the US Senate in SC. CNN says Todd Young (IN) is too close to call, and early voting shows Marco Rubio well ahead in FL.
    Jason Miller, with the Trump campaign, tells Fox News he is excited about FL because early voting. He points to the Jacksonville area and the Tampa area where Republicans are over-performing. Miller is very optimistic that Trump will win FL. He also feels good about NC and OH, where he says turnout is down in Cleveland. Miller goes on to say he thinks Trump has a real shot in PA and MI. Asked about WI, Miller hedges saying it will be tough, but we will find out.

    7:12 pm

    Trump campaign advisor on Fox News expresses confidence for Trump wins in FL, NC and OH, and that PA and MI are close but expects Trump to do well.
    Rudy Giuliani on MSNBC tells Chris Matthews on MSNBC that Hillary Clinton should be behind bars for her gross violations of federal laws.

    7:13 pm

    Charlie Gibson on ABC says there was no ‘majesty’ in this election. Gibson is dismayed by the election due to the toxicity that exists. Gibson is harshly critical of Trump. He points to the deep division in the country that will make it hard for the winner to govern.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC asks Rudy Giuliani if he is proud of the way he has conducted himself in his support of Trump. Giuliani affirms that he is.
    Jake Tapper says it appears to be a lot tougher than expected for Evan Bayh in IN Senate race.
    NBC reporter from FL credits Clinton with a strong ground game, whereas Trump is simply relying on people showing up on their own to vote.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS asks Kellyanne Conway about FL which she describes as a ‘must-win’ for Trump. O’Donnell asks for Conway’s reaction to the Clinton campaign who says they have banked enough early votes there, along with new Hispanic voters and that even if Trump got out huge numbers, there is no way he could win FL. Conway responds by describing those words as ‘spin and sophistry.’ Conway elaborates, saying their people in rural areas are reporting an increase over what Governor Romney received in 2012.

    7:14 pm

    Brian Fallon, Press Secretary for the Clinton Campaign tells Fox news the Clinton campaign is confident the Philadelphia suburbs will deliver PA to Clinton. Fallon says it is hard to imagine a path for Trump if he does not win PA. He says the Trump campaign should feel nervous about PA. Bret Baier compares the GOP’s efforts to win PA like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. He then asks Fallon if it is not the Clinton campaign concerned about PA given that Clinton has had to visit there so many times and the close of the campaign. Fallon concedes that it has been a battleground state. Fallon thinks record setting turnout in Southeast FL will carry state for Clinton. He thinks the surge in Hispanic vote will show the rejection of Trump’s anti-immigration rhetoric. Fallon hedges on OH, focuses on Clinton’s multiple paths, while Trump has to draw an inside straight.
    NBC report from NC finds light voter turnout later in the day due to record early vote participation.

    7:15 pm Cokie Roberts on ABS says the anti-government ‘drain the swamp’ message resonated with the electorate, but Roberts specifically mentioned the failed promises of congress, rather than the executive branch.
    NBC report from NH says both candidates have made a major late push in this very divided state.
    John Dickerson on CBS flatly denies Kellyanne Conway’s claim that there are multiple paths for Trump. Dickerson appeals to the historic ways these blue states vote as evidence the Trump path is slim.

    7:16 pm Terry Moran on ABS says damage has been done to our world reputation as a result of this election, specifically citing some of the things Trump said in the debates.
    John King on CNN says the early rural returns in FL are filling in the way Trump would want them to.

    7:17 pm Charlie Rose on CBS interviews Mark Leibovich, Peggy Noonan and Jamelle Bouie. Noonan says it is too early to know how close it is while Bouie says the early results are consistent with the polling we have seen, suggesting an advantage for Clinton. Bouie suggests the Democrat base might exceed what was seen in 2012. Leibovich says you have to be very cautious at this stage. He thinks the Hispanic numbers in FL are key. Leibovich thinks Clinton has a great chance to win NC.
    Byron Pitts on ABC laments the fact that the election of Obama did not end racism in America. Pitts warns to watch out for what happens after progress on race is made.

    7:18 pm NBC looks at exit polling data and finds 60% of voters say Clinton is not honest and trustworthy. Trump’s number was even worse at 64%. Exit polling shows Trump not performing worse among Hispanics compared to Romney. College educated white women are for Clinton, but Trump leading Clinton 59/35 among white non-college educated.

    7:19 pm Chuck Todd on NBC assures the panel that the gap between Trump in Hillary (who is slightly batter) does matter.

    7:20 pm Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at OH exit polling and sees black voters turning out greater than in the past.
    Anthony Mason on CBS looks at exit polling to find that 61% had an unfavorable opinion of Trump while 54% had an unfavorable opinion of Clinton.
    CNN looks at the key states and finds Trump leading in FL 51% to 46.6% with 15% reported; Trump leads in VA 52.1% to 42.4% with 1% counted; and in GA, Trump leads 73% to Clinton’s 25.4% with just 1% reported.

    7:21 pm Al Sharpton on MSNBC says African Americans in OH, FL and NC over the last several days there has been a big turnout in early voting by black voters who were inspired by Obama, tying the election to his legacy.
    Reporter Ron Mott in Cincinnati, OH reports for MSNBC and says the turnout is lighter than in the past.

    7:22 pm Nate Silver interviewed on ABC says his final prediction is Clinton with a 71% chance of winning, says early returns look good for Clinton in FL. Silver says FL is a must-win state for Trump.
    Jake Tapper on CNN says he is hearing that NC could go down to the wire and may be the deciding state.

    7:23 pm CNN’s Jim Acosta at Trump headquarters says a senior Trump campaign advisor told him, “It will take a miracle for us to win,” and characterized the challenge of the Trump team trying to keep him on message so as to salvage GOP senate seats.
    Scott Pelley asks Bob Schieffer about the fact that for the first time ever the winner of the presidential election will do so with negative approval above 50%. Schieffer says this is why voters are anxious about the result, wondering if the winner can bring people together and get the country going again.

    7:24 pm Democrat strategist Stephanie Cutter on ABC encouraged by the early returns for Clinton, and that her ground game as really delivered. She says if Clinton blocks Trump in FL, she has won the presidency.
    Chuck Todd on NBC emphasizes that Clinton has multiple paths due to NC, GA and FL.
    CNN’s Jeff Zeleny at Clinton headquarters says the Clinton team is watching OH and NC very closely, as they expect late events held in both states to help turn out their voters. However they are concerned about a lower than expected turnout in Cleveland. They are looking to win in NC on a spike in turnout in college towns.
    Dana Perino on Fox News suggests Clinton has an advantage in FL due to Democrat surge in voter registration and the Latino vote. Eric Bolling agrees and says election will be called early if Trump doesn’t win FL. Greg Gutfeld points to the amazing Democrat Party ground game including the dead vote. Gutfeld says the most refreshing part of this election is past sins no longer matter for a candidate.

    7:25 pm George Stephanopoulos on ABC characterizes the Republican Party as divided over Trump with many not able to get on board. Alex Castellanos, Republican Strategist on ABC says the election is outsiders versus insiders.
    Kimberly Guilfoyle on Fox News says Trump’s ‘Drain the Swamp’ message resonated, but Clinton’s attack on Trump’s temperament was also effective. Juan Williams references the increase in the Latino vote, but there is the white male population in the rust belt, which could also change the map.

    7:26 pm CNN reports that Clinton has taken a significant 50 thousand vote lead in FL with 30% of the vote counted. She leads 49.5% to Trump’s 47.7%. John King looks at the map in FL and finds the vote coming in now from Miami-Dade county. King finds Clinton getting what she needs out of Palm Beach County.

    7:29 pm MSNBC reporter in Raleigh, NC says that record early voting turnout means light election-day turnout in the state.
    Bill Kristol on ABC speculates on whether or not Trump will do as well as Romney or McCain, but even in defeat, he will not go away but will still be a force.

    7:30 pm Trump projected winner in WV (5; 24) by all networks; OH too close to call by all networks; NC too close to call but Clinton has edge according to CBS, and Clinton has a lead according to Fox News, other networks, no projection.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS says Trump feels good about OH. John Dickerson indicates Clinton is well on her way to 270 if she holds PA and MI, and currently has the edge in NC and VA.
    Fox News projects Rob Portman winner of Strickland in OH senate race.

    7:31 pm Karl Rove on Fox News shows Republicans in NC performed strongly in early voting; says there is conflicting results in OH. Rove believes both states will keep everyone up very late.
    NBC looks at FL and finds that all that has been reported thus far is the early vote. The fact that Clinton has a lead before anything out of Broward County means there will be some very nervous Trump people, and some very, very excited Clinton people.
    MSNBC projects Rob Portman winner over Strickland in OH senate race. Rachel Maddow on MSNBC praises the effort of Deborah Ross’s campaign in NC.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS gleefully reports that Clinton is winning the black vote in NC 89% to 7%.

    7:32 pm ABC’s Jonathan Karl reports that FL is going back and forth with 40% reported, but Clinton getting what she needs from Miami-Dade county.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at exit polling in NC and he sees good news for Clinton on college educated voters and non-college whites. However, black vote down slightly in NC. Karnacki also reviews the exit polling in OH and finds slightly good news for Trump among non-college educated whites, as well as a slight drop of black vote, but not as much as Rachel Maddow feared.
    Nicolle Wallace on NBC says Trump campaign already talking about the “what-ifs” in regards to regrets about Trump never apologizing instead of having a real campaign and coming up short in FL and getting knocked out. They could have had a real message and done a real campaign.
    CNN shows Trump has retaken a slim lead in FL with 43% precincts reporting, 48.9% to 48.2%. CNN analyst

    7:33 pm CNN’s Dana Bash says FL is so important due to the back and forth demographics with a large Electoral Vote prize. More money was spent here than any other state. She says there is no path for Trump without FL. Jake Tapper agrees.
    Tom Brokaw on NBC suggest Trump had run the general election campaign like he was still in the primary. People tried to get him to change, but he has a strong ego, but he didn’t shift in time for the general election, and he is paying a price for that—it is not over yet, but they have to scramble tonight.
    Nomiki Konst on Fox News says the results are going perfectly–a great night for Democrats. She says Hillary has run an impeccable campaign, using the Obama institution, all of the progressive base for the most part, the Hillary supporters, and she is running against a man who did not work well with the Republican Party. She goes on to say Trump does not have the ground game, the messaging, and he has been unable to stay on course. Clinton, she says, already had a map that worked in her favor. Konst says essentially the election for President is over, and it just comes down to the senate.

    7:34 pm Bob Schieffer on CBS says Clinton is winning among white women in both NC and VA. Scott Pelley counters that she is not winning them overall (in other states).
    Guy Benson on Fox News sees red flags for Trump in FL, being down in Hillsborough County 10 points in early voting. Benson sees some good news for the GOP in the senate races, where Rubio looks to be strongly outpacing Trumps numbers, and the state of IN where Evan Bayh seems to be in deep trouble.

    7:35 pm ABC News interviews Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who is encouraged that these battleground states look like a jump-ball. She is looking at MI and PA as reach states, where Trump’s message is being heard. She thinks they will catch up on election day vote in states like FL where the Democrats run up score in early voting. She says Trump has given voice to forgotten voters. Conway says Reince Priebus has been excellent in supporting the Trump campaign.
    Savannah Guthrie on NBC says if the Hispanic vote in FL is up and it was decisive, then maybe Trump lost the election on day one—when he disparaged Hispanics.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News is shocked at the suggestion by Nomiki Konst that Clinton has run an impeccable campaign.

    7:36 pm CNN shows Trump still holds slim lead in FL with 46% of precincts reporting, and they stress the importance of southeast FL for Clinton. They also show Trump to be running significantly behind Rubio.
    NBC’s reporter from Cleveland says there are no lines, the doors closed and no one is there. Clinton campaign had hoped for long lines. Clinton canvassed homes four times throughout the day trying to get people out to vote.
    Elaine Quijano on CBS mentions a tweet from Mike Pence thanking his home state to be first in voting for Trump. Quijano mentions a problem in Durham County in NC, where voters are encouraged to stay in line.

    7:37 pm John King on CNN wonders about the possibility one candidate could win the popular vote but lose the electoral college.
    NBC’s reporter from PA finds a long line in Philadelphia near Temple University as students are all lined up for Clinton.
    CBS’ Dean Reynolds looks at OH and suggests the key may be traditional Democrat voters who have lost employment and may be looking to vote for Trump. Reynolds says Portman may have coattails that help Trump.
    Monica Crowley on Fox News says going into the race Trump had an even larger gender gap than most GOP candidates, but more recent polling showed he narrowed the gap some, but it is still a huge issue.

    7:38 pm MSNBC reports that Trump is in his apartment sipping Diet Coke, and watching returns.
    John King on CNN shows in VA that Clinton is getting the numbers she needs so far in the suburbs around Washington DC.
    7:39 pm Brit Hume on Fox News portrays the gender gap in exit polling as problematic for Trump. He suggests the gender gap in GA shows why it might be in play.
    7:40 pm ABC’s Robin Roberts at the Javits Center interviews Clinton campaign representative who says they are really excited about the early returns. The supporters are enthusiastic and they believe it will be a historic night. Says it will be a meaningful day as supporters were invited to bring their daughters to see this historic moment as Hillary becomes the first female president, and breaks the glass ceiling.
    Nicolle Wallace on NBC says “watch the Mom vote,” and that it is impossible for a Republican to win the White House without narrowing the gender gap and Trump does not appear to be doing it tonight.

    7:41 pm

    CNN projects Rob Portman winner over Strickland in OH senate race.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News says the data seems to suggest Trump not doing worse than Romney among Hispanics, and doing better among blacks.
    Chuck Todd on NBC gloats over Clinton’s numbers coming out of Loudoun County, how Clinton is doubling Obama’s numbers there, and Todd suggests this is why Trump had pulled out of VA.
    MSNBC report from Columbus, OH and finds there were no reports of voter intimidation. Only 1 out of 9000 voting precincts in OH had a line still when the polls closed.
    Charlie Rose on CBS asks John Dickerson if Republicans have come home to vote for Trump, and Dickerson responds that they must have if Trump is to win. Dickerson affirms that 88% of the Republican vote in OH voted for Trump—a strong number for him.

    7:42 pm

    ABC News expresses surprise at Trump’s big lead in VA, 54% to 41%, 241,915 to 186,753, though they point out that northern VA in Fairfax County has not reported much.
    Anthony Mason on CBS looks at exit polling in GA and finds Trump winning 70% of the white vote, and 57% of the male vote.
    Jake Tapper on CNN says that the Democrat senate candidates have thus far not made a strong showing toward their effort to regain control.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News is amazed at the exit polling numbers from some of the early races. Trump is doing better among black voters than Romney. He is getting exactly the same Hispanic voters that Romney did, and better among voters under 30 than Romney.
    Matthew Dowd on ABC says the urban / rural divide in VA that explains why the state has shifted blue.

    7:43 pm

    CNN shows Trump with 118,000 vote lead in FL with 55% of the vote counted. Wolf Blitzer calls this a significant lead. In NC Trump leads 54.5% to 43.3% with 10% of the vote counted.

    7:44 pm

    James Carville on NBC says he is a little nervous tonight. He says turnout in Miami-Dade and Broward counties in FL and in Philadelphia, PA is eye-popping, but he doesn’t know what the turnout is in Trump areas. He says the Clinton ground game is significant tonight, putting up numbers better than expected. Chuck Todd on NBC asks Carville if maybe things would have been different tonight if Clinton had had to run against someone with a ground game. Carville admits that he doesn’t know, but that Trump had no ground game. None.

    7:45 pm

    ABC News analyst said that African Americans have heard the call by Obama to come out and vote.
    Kasie Hunt on MSNBC says NC and GA is the new Democratic map.

    7:46 pm

    Cokie Roberts on ABC says Clinton’s appeal to women was effective. Roberts says Michelle Obama was very effective to get the base out for Clinton.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says Trump’s approach in NC is out of date, not globalist.
    Fox News reporter in NH says it is a nail-biter there.

    7:47 pm

    James Carville on NBC says “Clinton is a much more popular office-holder than candidate.” Carville goes on to say that many of the Trump voters were Democrats and they are trying to be heard and Clinton needs to go out and listen to them after she wins the White House.
    Cicilia Vega on CNN points again to the ‘they go low, we go high’ message of Clinton as being a defining moment, along with the support she received from Michelle Obama.

    7:48 pm

    CNN returns from a commercial with an alert that shows Clinton has retaken the lead in FL, 49.2% to 47.9%, a 76,430 vote lead and 65% of the vote counted. Wolf Blitzer is clearly excited by the news. In OH, CNN finds Trump ahead 52.1% to 44.3% with just 3% counted. In VA Trump leads 54% to 41.2% with 14% counted.
    MO Senator Claire McCaskill on MSNBC is optimistic that Kander will win senate race tonight over Roy Blunt. McCaskill says Clinton struggled in her campaign because she is not different to voters.
    James Carville on NBC says he was glad Comey dropped the investigation on Sunday. He says it might have motivated a lot of democrats. Nicolle Wallace agreed, but says Trump was motivated by the Comey effect, that Trump at that point gave up his Twitter and believed he could win.
    Fox News reporter in PA says that Pat Toomey did vote for Donald Trump. 160 million dollars was spent on the PA senate race.

    7:49 pm

    Trump projected winner in SC (9; 33) by Fox News.
    CBS’s Norah O’Donnell interviews Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon who says they are seeing a rise of the Clinton coalition. Clinton has the Obama coalition plus the Latino surge. They expect to break 2012 turnout models in FL. Fallon expects to win NC due to early vote and Latino vote. Scott Pelley asks Fallon about Trump leading among white women in OH, NC, GA and VA. Fallon says Trump was leading early in the race in this segment of voters. Fallon dodges the question to focus on college- educated voters. O’Donnell asks Fallon if he is at all concerned about the state of MI. Fallon assures CBS that he is pleased with what they are seeing so far; says Trump failed to contest MI early on.

    7:50 pm

    Trump projected winner in SC by NBC.
    James Carville says on NBC that all the stuff Trump did earlier in the campaign is baked in the cake. Carville goes on to say that Bill Clinton is not happy about losing the voters who supported him but now are with Trump.
    CNN’s John King looks at FL and finds Clinton is running ahead of Obama’s 2012 percentage in Broward County. He looks statewide and after an update, Clinton now leads in FL by 50.1% to 47.1%, her largest lead so far.
    Carl Cameron, reporting for Fox News at the Trump headquarters says they are still cautiously optimistic, but that KellyAnne Conway has spoken out about the lack of the Republican structure getting behind Trump. However, they see strong turnout in their areas of the I-4 corridor in FL. In NC Trump’s people think they are doing well. However, he says when the campaign manager starts blaming the GOP it’s not a good sign of what their mood might be later in the evening.

    7:51 pm

    John Dickerson on CBS says that Brian Fallon seemed uneasy about MI, that maybe there is something to watch there as Fallon did not have an easy, quick response.
    ABC finds a Clinton voter on the street who happened to be a Republican normally, but had memorized all the Clinton attacks on Trump, calling him a racist who assaults women. The ABC reporter says he certainly understands her position.

    7:52 pm

    Jennifer Griffin reporting for Fox News at the Clinton headquarters saying the Clinton team confident about Michigan due to the last minute push there, although concern was expressed about PA being close, as well as the Cleveland area in OH, suggesting to them that they do not have what it needs to win the state.

    7:53 pm

    CNN’s Sara Murray at the Trump campaign says sources there are concerned about independent voters in FL.
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl says the data out of NC shows that many strongly democrat counties, including Durham County, have not yet reported which bodes well for Clinton.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at FL and finds Clinton leading statewide, and with a ten-point lead in the bell-weather country of Hillsborough which is great news for her. But he warns that this is early vote and we don’t yet know what election day vote looks like. He reminds viewers that if Trump loses FL, then he needs PA and MI to replace it. Todd goes on to cite a Clinton campaign friend who tells him they think they are going to win their backbone of FL, PA and VA, and once they do, it’s “checkmate.”
    James Rosen on Fox News says it will be several hours before we know if Republicans will maintain control of the senate.

    7:54 pm

    CNN’s Jeff Zeleny at the Clinton campaign says sources there are increasingly confident about their chances in FL, because they see Clinton out-performing Obama in key counties. A key campaign advisor for Clinton was reported to have said their rising Hispanic numbers are the reason they will win FL.
    Martha Raddatz on ABC expresses excitedly how rapidly NC is changing (in the direction of the minorities and the Democrat Party).

    7:55 pm

    CNN shows momentum toward Clinton based on her growing 49.9% to 47.3% lead in FL, a 171,793 vote advantage with 72% of the vote counted, and NC where she has taken a 21,996 vote lead, 49.7% to 48%, with 28% of the precincts reporting.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS says he will go out on a limb to say that most Hispanics are not going to vote for Donald Trump. He wants to watch Hispanic turnout.

    7:56 pm

    Trump projected winner in SC by CBS during a commercial break.
    CNN’s John King says the FL map looks like the 2012 map. Clinton has met her goals in Southeast Florida.

    7:57 pm

    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at FL and finds good news for Clinton in south-east FL in both Miami-Dade and Broward county where it appears Clinton hit her targets in early vote totals now counted there. He says Trump’s strength is in rural counties, and the panhandle which is not yet in. Overall with 74% in, Clinton with greater than 100,000 vote lead. Karnacki confirms for Rachel Maddow that Trump could only win election without FL if he wins in MI and PA.

    7:58 pm

    CNN’s John King says Clinton is getting great numbers out of Mecklenburg County (Charlotte) NC where she is outperforming Obama’s numbers in 2012. He finds the same in Wake County NC and suggests that because Durham County has nothing yet, Clinton seems to be in good shape in NC.

    7:59 pm

    CNN shows further momentum for Clinton by showing her with an almost ten-point lead in OH with 12% of the vote reporting, John King suggests that if these numbers hold, it is game over (Clinton wins). But as he was speaking the numbers tightened to just a 52.8% to 43.5% lead for Clinton. King also points to the fact that Columbus area is where Clinton is running ahead of Obama’s 2012 numbers.

  453. Bitterlaw says:

    Any member of Congress can lose. I never vote for primary challengers because my area has tight races. I would never trade an incumbent Republican for a Democrat.

    NYC still has this odd belief that in our system. all politicians elected anywhere must vote as a New York resident wants them to vote.

  454. DW says:

    8:00-9:00: Hour of Confidence

    This second hour began with Clinton well ahead in FL, NC and OH. Concerns about VA were rightly set aside due to northern VA not reporting. This confidence launched the media into congratulatory remarks about Clinton’s robust ground game, as well as comments about highly placed Republicans who are gravely concerned. Almost unnoticed by many of the networks was the fact that by 8:30 Trump had taken a modest lead in FL. Those who did notice, waved it off expecting southeast FL to come through for Clinton. However, as the hour of confidence marched on, some started to see some warning signs as 9:00 approached.

    8:00 pm

    Trump projected winner in SC by NY Times.
    Trump projected winner in OK (7; 40) by all networks, Clinton projected winner in DC (3; 6), MA (11; 17), MD (10; 27), NJ (14; 41), DE (3; 44) by all networks.
    Trump projected winner in AL (9; 49) by NBC, other networks, no projection.
    TN too close to call according to ABC, Trump projected winner in TN (11; 60) by other networks.
    Trump projected winner in MO (10; 70) by Fox News, MO too close to call but Trump leading according to NBC, other networks, no projection.
    No projection in MS by CBS, Trump projected winner in MS (6; 76) by other networks.
    No projection in IL by CBS, Clinton projected winner in IL (20; 64) by other networks.
    No projected in RI by CBS and Fox News, Clinton projected winner in RI (4; 68) by other networks.
    Clinton projected winner in CT (7; 75) by NBC, other networks, no projection.
    ME too early to call but Clinton leading according to NBC, too early but Clinton ahead according to Fox News, too close to call but leaning Clinton according to CBS, other networks, no projection.
    FL and NH too close to call by all networks. PA too close to call but Clinton said to be ahead there by Fox News, other networks, no projection.

    8:01 pm

    CBS panel again affirms that Trump must win FL to have a chance, and they highlight the importance of the Latino vote there.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News affirms that any possible path Trump has to the white house must include FL.
    Baltimore, MD Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake on ABC says how excited she is about how the whole evening is coming together.

    8:02 pm

    Fox News and MSNBC projects Duckworth winner over Kirk in IL senate race. All other senate races closing at 8 pm had no surprises.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC says Missouri too close to call, “but with Clinton leading….” Then he corrects himself to say Trump is leading.
    Savannah Guthrie on NBC says Duckworth tied Kirk to Trump and so the Democrats have netted one.
    Brit Hume on Fox News commenting on the defeat of Mark Kirk says, ‘you cannot survive as a moderate’ in either party.

    8:03 pm

    Brian Williams on MSNBC recounts the states still too early to call, ending with VA where he says it is “too early to call at this point, but a lead on Clinton’s part,” even though the data on the screen shows Trump with a lead of 127,000 votes with 25% reporting. Williams does not correct himself this time.
    Hugh Hewitt on NBC praises the fact that Portman in OH has won, and things look good for Todd Young in IN.
    CBS says that although PA is a Tossup, Clinton is leading in exit polling there among college-educated women, getting 58% of them, a gap of 20 points more than what Obama had four years ago.
    Brit Hume on Fox News points to the exit polling based on gender showing Clinton with a much larger lead than Trump has with men, and says this might be an indication as to where the election is headed (a Trump defeat).

    8:04 pm

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says Kirk ran a bad campaign in IL, he was embarrassing the way he conducted himself, and this is an important Democrat pickup toward the goal of senate control.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC says Trump doing better among whites in FL than Romney, but says Clinton’s lead among Latinos in FL stronger than Obama, but black voters might be a little off there. He also looks at PA where exit polling shows white college educated voters going more strongly to Clinton, while non-college educated white voters going more strongly to Trump compared to 2012.
    CBS’s Anthony Mason looks at the exit polling in FL and finds Trump leading among Cubans 53/41 while Clinton leads among other Hispanic voters 70/25.

    8:05 pm

    CNN’s Dana Bash reports hearing from a Republican source that their modeling appears to show them that Trump will not win FL. Jake Tapper responds with caution saying that nobody knows who is going to win FL, as the votes must be counted.
    CNN looks at key races again and finds Clinton’s lead in FL has shrunken to just 49.1% to 48% with 77% reported; Clinton also leads in NC 52.8% to 44.8% with 49% counted; She also leads in OH 52.3% to 43.2% with 24% counted.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC News looks at FL, and sees greater than expected turnout in Miami-Dade county for Clinton, nothing yet in the panhandle, and overall it looks good for Clinton.
    NBC panelists express excitement over the military retirees now getting elected.
    Kellyanne Conway interviewed by Lester Holt on NBC. Conway says they feel very good about keeping the race very close, and the GOP is now more pro-worker, less elite. Lester Holt asks Conway about FL, and shows the gap on the screen now down to a Clinton lead of 55,502 votes. Conway says FL is matching what they saw in their own polling. She says they are hopeful that the panhandle vote will come in and make the difference.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News points out how the Republican senate candidates trying to win re-election all came to office in the 2010 mid-term election when Obamacare was on the ballot. He says this will be a problem for Republicans.

    8:06 pm

    Clinton projected winner in IL by CBS; Clinton projected winner in RI by Fox News.
    Scott Pelley on CBS says the first people Trump insulted (Hispanics) may have the last word tonight.

    8:07 pm

    Wolf Blitzer at CNN expresses surprise to learn from John King that Clinton’s lead in FL has reduced to only 50,000 with 79% reported, as the vote in the western panhandle is only now starting to come in. King reassures that the small rural counties may not produce many votes.
    Frank Luntz on CBS says if whites are angry, Hispanics were insulted. Trump’s message received by Hispanics is that they are not welcome. Luntz says the Republicans cannot win. Ruth Marcus goes further saying Hispanics are ‘incensed’ by Trump’s remarks and they will not sit home, but get to the polls. Marcus says the outrage will spread tonight to Asian immigrants as well. Leslie Sanchez adds that this night will be the largest rejection of a GOP nominee in recent history.
    Bill Hemmer on Fox News looks at early returns in OH where he finds Clinton outperforming Obama in the Columbus area. Looking at NC Clinton is outperforming Obama in Raleigh area as well. Hemmer looks at FL where he finds Trump performing better than Romney in Martin County, but the results are early.

    8:08 pm

    Clinton projected winner in RI by CBS.
    NBC projects Rubio winner over Murphy in FL senate race. Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC mentions how Rubio and Rand Paul may be only GOP presidential candidates who give victory speech tonight. Kellyanne Conway is pleased Rubio has won the race and expects he will work well with Trump.

    8:09 pm

    ABC News analyst says Clinton worked hard to solidify the Hispanic vote in FL.
    Karl Rove on Fox News looks at the key states for Trump, including FL, OH and NC. Looking at the first returns that include the early vote, she leads as expected. The key is if Trump can come back with election day voting. Rove says if Trump loses FL the election is over. However, if Trump can win FL, OH and NC, then he has to find a hole in the blue wall. PA, MI, WI, and MN are the four states.
    Cicilia Vega on ABC thinks the celebrities Clinton brought into FL made a difference.

    8:10 pm

    Katy Tur at the Trump headquarters says she spoke to a high-level source who believes OH is going to go down to the wire. They believe they have good news in early voting. She says the Clinton campaign is now confident about winning OH. Points to the ground game difference. Her GOP source says there is no idea what ground game in OH Trump has other than the RNC.
    CBS projects Duckworth winner over Kirk in IL senate race.
    CNN’s John King says Clinton campaign probably encouraged by the data coming out of NC. Both King and Blitzer seem encouraged and think Clinton’s lead is significant in NC.
    Tom Llamas on ABC says the Trump campaign did mention one path they have to 270 without FL, but it is likely a fantasy.
    ABC News projects Rubio winner over Murphy in FL senate race.

    8:11 pm

    Rudy Giuliani on Fox News says FL is going to be close. He says the Cuban vote in FL is not as predictable. Giuliani says FL is still in play for Trump. He says the support for Trump in the northern part of the state is overwhelming.
    Hugh Hewitt is concerned that Trump is trailing the GOP senate candidates. The NBC panel makes fun of Trump in that Rubio gets revenge in that he wins tonight.
    Scott Pelley of CBS asks John Dickerson to describe a ‘warning sign’ for the Trump campaign that he found. Dickerson says the Trump strategy of focusing on just white voters has appeared to fail as exit polling shows white voters make up just 70% of the electorate, whereas four years earlier it was 72%.

    8:12 pm

    Trump projected winner in MS by CBS. CNN analyst John King says Clinton campaign probably likes the returns so far in OH.
    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC says women are not breaking his way, and it was a difficult thing for GOP candidates to separate themselves. Chris Matthews acknowledges that FL could go Trump’s way tonight. Nicolle Wallace says Democrats think FL will go their way.
    Alex Castellanos on ABC says Rubio’s running ahead of Trump in FL is not a good sign for Trump.

    8:13 pm

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN interrupts John King with the news that Clinton’s lead in FL is cut to 16,000 votes, 48.6% to 48.4% with 85% of precincts reporting; King says Trump is doing what he needs to do in rural areas, something he never mentioned earlier.
    ABC News panelist Tom Llamas interrupts coverage with the breaking news of responses of Trump coming out at the news former presidents and current Republicans did not vote for him. Llamas characterizes Trumps comments that he is already starting to lash out on election night, against both Lindsay Graham and the news that George W Bush did not vote for him. Says that “for the first time we are hearing the frustration of what is happening to him tonight.”
    MSNBC reporter from Philadelphia reporting long lines even after polls closed.
    Rudy Giuliani on Fox News says Trump will over-perform with white working class males, while not do as badly as some think among African-American voters.

    8:14 pm

    Fox News projects Rubio winner over Murphy in FL senate race. Megyn Kelly expresses a little surprise given the events leading up to the election, including Rubio’s flip-flop on his view of senate culture.
    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer interrupts John King again to point out that Trump has taken the lead in FL on CNN’s map, 48.5% to 48.5%, about a 700 vote lead with 86% counted.
    MSNBC shows image of the Javits Center with huge overflow crowds of Clinton supporters gathered.

    8:16 pm

    Clinton retakes lead in FL as shown on CNN’s map as once again Wolf Blitzer interrupts King with the news she is ahead again by 4000 votes. John King is encouraged that only 25% of Palm Beach County has reported. Wolf Blitzer seems relieved. As they speak her lead dropped to just over 1,600 votes.

    8:17 pm

    NBC’s Hallie Jackson looks at FL exit polling and finds Clinton out performing Obama among Hispanic voters, getting 62% while Trump gets only 33%.
    NBC’s Kristen Welker says top campaign officials tell her they are feeling confident, and good about a robust ground game. They knocked on 2 million doors today alone. She ended campaign on the exact note she was hoping to. She will be a president who unites. They are closely watching MI, NC and FL.

    8:18 pm

    NBC’s Peter Alexander from the Trump headquarters says a top campaign source tells him they are feeling very good right now and the source is predicting victories in IA, OH, NC, NH and the 2nd Congressional district of ME. The source says the race will be a lot closer than most Americans would have thought.
    Scott Pelley on CBS again affirms that there is no way Trump can win without FL.
    Nate Silver reports to ABC News that Clinton’s chances of winning have moved from 72% to 78% based on the data thus far. He says script is going more like the Clinton campaign would want it, based on states expected going her way in fact going into her column.

    8:19 pm

    Trump projected winner in SC and TN by ABC.
    MSNBC reviews the senate races they have called, and remind viewers Democrats have picked up one.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at FL at the moment Trump took a lead of 28 votes, though Todd doesn’t actually point out this change in the lead. Todd says everyone [on both sides] showed up to vote. He illustrates by looking at Hernando County where Trump far exceeded the number Romney got 4 years ago. Todd calls this “a big deal” but quickly tries to downplay it by focusing on Miami-Dade County where Clinton is running it up. He characterizes it as Clinton still in a better position due to her advantages in high population areas, calling it ‘great’ news for her, but only ‘good’ news for Trump from the rural vote. But this moment is sort of a first on NBC’s coverage where there is evidence from the returns that Clinton isn’t just running away with the election.
    CBS’s data analyst Anthony Salvanto affirms that Clinton is getting what she expects out of southeast FL, however, he points out that Trump is exceeding expectations in rural GOP-leaning counties. This marks the first moment on CBS’s coverage where Trump received good news. CBS shows FL to be a virtual tie, 48% each.

    8:20 pm

    Rudy Giuliani on ABC says Trump seems to be cautiously optimistic. Reminds ABC of 2004 how it looked like Kerry would win up to 9 pm, and then it all changed. He expects Trump to win it, but he is not a prophet.
    CNN as well as ABC report that Trump has retaken a slim lead in FL, about 4000 votes with 88% of the vote counted. While they were reporting the lead jumped to 8,071. Better news for Clinton in NC where she leads 51.7% to 45.8% with 54% counted. In OH Clinton still leads 51.8% to 44.6% with 30% counted.
    MSNBC’s Steve Karnacki looks at early voting in NC and finds great news for Clinton, and some election-day vote shows larger than expected margins for Clinton.
    CBS’s Anthony Salvanto looks at NC and finds that like FL, Trump is doing well in rural areas, but there is not enough data to know for sure who will win the state.

    8:21 pm

    Charles Krauthammer on Fox News says the general trends based on favorable ratings favor Clinton, says she will take FL, but Trump wins OH. Krauthammer leans heavily on recent polling and exit polling. He says NC is a tossup, and right now Clinton has a substantial advantage in FL. At the end of his long exchange with Bill O’Reilly, Krauthammer predicts Clinton will be the next president.
    MSNBC’s Steve Karnacki, while looking at FL totals sees the moment when Trump takes lead from Clinton.
    Bill O’Reilly on Fox News says Trump is not over-performing or under-performing, more optimistic he takes FL.
    CNN finds that Trump’s lead in FL has grown to almost 14,000 votes, 48.6% to 46.4%. John King looks at what is left in FL and sees encouragement for Clinton in Palm Beach County. He sees a lot more math for Clinton in Broward County too. There are still 20% to count in Miami-Dade as well.

    8:22 pm

    Susannah Guthrie reminds Lester Holt that we election presidents on the electoral college because that’s the way the constitution is written. Chuck Todd is agitated about the electoral college saying there are bugs in the system, because it can end it a tie which is ridiculous to create a constitutional crisis. And Todd says he is no longer a defender of the electoral college because he cannot adequately explain it to someone overseas, so he concludes we need a new system.
    CBS’s Nancy Cordes at the Clinton headquarters says the Clinton “Get out the vote” (GOTV) team has made 20 million contacts, and many voters were contacted twice because there were so many volunteers. Cordes speculates how the race tonight might have been different had Trump had similar money and volunteers. Cordes says Broward County in FL has had record turnout. Scott Pelley restates the words of Cordes, that the Trump campaign has failed to invest in the GOTV effort. Pelley asks Major Garrett at the Trump headquarters about this effort. Garrett says Trump let the GOP handle the GOTV campaign, and that senior Trump advisors told him they worry that they will regret this decision, wishing they had their own GOTV operation. Garrett suggests Trump didn’t think it was needed, and just felt the adoring crowds on the campaign trail would be enough. Garrett says he may learn tonight that they should have invested in the GOTV effort because in key battleground states they have very little organization.

    8:24 pm

    MSNBC news projects Young winner over Bayh in IN senate race. Rachel Maddow says Bayh was expected to be a shoe-in. Chris Matthews says Bayh’s lobbyist image hurt him.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC reports that Trump has just taken the lead in FL. Karl thinks it will go right down to the wire, having mentioned that a lot vote in the panhandle still to be counted. Matthew Dowd agrees it looks very close.

    8:25 pm

    CNN projects Rubio winner over Murphy in FL senate race, Duckworth winner over Kirk in IL senate race. They also project Blumenthal wins in CT, Van Hollen in MD, and Lankford in OK. They also found Burr losing in NC and Ayotte losing in NH. [CNN would not speak of any further senate races throughout the rest of their election night coverage, even though they gave the impression they would be tracking it all evening.] CBS, between commercial breaks, looks quickly at FL where it is still tied 48% each.
    Fox news projects Young winner over Bayh in IN senate race. Bret Baier says that with this hold along with Rubio in FL, perhaps the GOP could hold on to control the US senate. Megyn Kelly suggests that Rubio’s win sets himself up for another run in 4 years—an indication perhaps that Kelly expects Trump to lose. She also suggests that the best the GOP can hope for is a 50/50 senate.

    8:28 pm

    CNN reports that Trump’s lead is at 48.8% to 48.1% in FL where the raw vote lead has grown to 63,297 with 91% reported. Blitzer calls this lead ‘sort-of impressive.’ In NC they find Clinton still leading 51.3% to Trump’s 46.3% with 56% reported. However, in OH her lead has shrunken to 51% to 45.3% with 31% counted. In VA, Trump continues to lead 51.2% to 43.9% with 45% counted.

    8:29 pm

    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer expresses surprise that with 46% of the vote counted in TX, Clinton has 56,000 vote lead.
    MSNBC moves VA from “too early to call” to “too close to call,” meaning they used to not have enough data, but now have data that shows the race as too close.

    8:30 pm

    NBC projects Republicans to hold control of the US House.
    Trump projected winner in AL by Fox News, ABC and CBS.
    Trump projected winner in AR (6; 82) by NBC, other networks, no projection.
    CBS projects Rubio winner over Murphy in FL senate race. Norah O’Donnell on CBS jokes that of the 16 Republicans who ran for President, perhaps Rubio will be the only one who has a victory party tonight. Other CBS analysts laugh at her joke.
    Trump projected winner in SC and AL by CNN.
    MSNBC looks at FL and finds 91% of the vote is now in, with Trump leading by 68,099 votes. They also check on OH where 31% is in, and Clinton leads by 99,440 votes. They find GA still too close to call, though Trump leads by 171,724 votes with 9% in. NC shows 57% reported and Clinton still leading by 123,669 votes.
    Fox News looks at FL and finds Trump ahead 48.9% to 48.1%, a lead of 68,039 votes with 91% reported.

    8:31 pm

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN describes the election as a nail-biter. Jake Tapper tempers Blitzer’s concern appealing to large number of votes left in Broward County.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at what is left in FL. He says the Clinton campaign is feeling good about FL and the Trump campaign not feeling so good about FL even though Trump is ahead by 68,000 votes. This is because of what is remaining to count, and he goes on to mention Palm Beach, Broward, Miami-Dade, and Gainesville. These numbers mean Trump is in a very difficult position because he almost cannot win without FL.

    8:32 pm

    Trump takes the lead in FL returns on the Fox News map.
    Brian Williams says Paul Ryan will hope to still be Speaker of House. Rachel Maddow says Clinton would not be able to come into the White House with the same partisan advantage Obama enjoyed. She further speculates that no landslide forthcoming for Clinton based on this early call for the US House control.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS looks at FL, a state she says Trump must win, and finds that will 91% of the vote in, Trump leads 4,180,922 to Clinton’s 4,112,883 votes. Upon hearing this news, the CBS panel begins to sound a little nervous. John Dickerson reassures them that the share of voters who are white in FL is down, and he thinks that would hurt Trump, but admits the race is ‘neck-and-neck’ so he is picking up some votes, and Clinton is perhaps not getting her votes out. Bob Schieffer worries that we will be looking at hanging chads again.
    Dana Bash on CNN now says Republicans are claiming that they got their vote out, and she agrees saying it certainly looks like they did.
    Karl Rove on Fox News sees bad news for Trump because of his sagging numbers in Southeast FL and his poor numbers in Hillsborough County. Chris Stirewalt agrees with Rove, finding strong results for Clinton in her areas of the state, particularly Orlando.

    8:33 pm

    Andrea Mitchell reporting for NBC and the Clinton headquarters says the speechwriters are working on Clinton’s speech. Democrat Party sources in MI say they are getting a little nervous, because Detroit and Flint are not turning out like they would wish.
    CNN’s Jake Tapper points out that Mark Kirk ran from Trump and was decimated, Rubio was to vote for Trump and he won.
    Bill Hemmer on Fox News looks closer at FL and finds Trump doing slightly better than Romney in Hillsborough County. He finds Clinton outperforming Obama in Orlando. However, Trump is outperforming Romney in Flagler County and in Daytona.
    Tom Llamas on ABC points to the accusation of women against Trump has hurting him. Llamas mentioned Trump’s campaign rally where he called Clinton’s face, ‘the face of failure.’

    8:34 pm

    Steve Karnacki looks at VA and points to northern VA as key for Clinton to close the gap. However, he warns the rural areas running it up making VA closer than many believed it would be. Rachel Maddow is surprised that VA is not yet called. Chris Matthews says Northern VA same as CO and the Philadelphia suburbs.
    Jennifer Granholm on NBC says she feels very good because of the votes that have not yet been counted in FL. The urban areas have not yet come in. She says feels good about PA, VA and NC. She then says “everybody on my side, take a deep breath…it’s going to be okay.” She says the Arab-American voters in MI will help offset Detroit.
    Scott Pelley (again) asserts that Trump must win FL to have any reasonable path to the presidency, but Clinton has other paths. Pelley says there will be no blow-out tonight, this is going to be a close race.
    CNN looks at FL again and finds Trump ahead by about 77,000 votes with 91% reported.

    8:35 pm

    ABC news projects Young winner over Bayh in IN senate race. Democrat strategist Stephanie Cutter on ABC admits this is a big blow to the Democrat’s chances to retake the senate. Cutter thinks there is still a shot, but it is tougher.
    CBS’s Norah O’Donnell looks at OH and finds Clinton leading Trump 913,447 to 834,193 with 32% of the vote reporting. She says assumptions cannot be made about OH due to the low number of votes counted.
    John King on CNN gives comfort to Wolf Blitzer as he expecting Clinton to make up the gap.

    8:36 pm

    ABC projects Republicans to hold control of the US House.
    NBC news projects Young winner over Bayh in IN senate race. The NBC panel downplays the expectations of the IN senate race. But Nicolle Wallace draws attention to the national response of Republicans overjoyed that Young won this seat.
    Joy Reid on MSNBC reminds viewers that there are a lot of votes still to come in Broward county, however, she warns the areas outside the urban precincts are going strongly to Trump. She says Clinton votes there may not be enough.
    CBS looks at VA and finds Clinton leading there 49% to 46% with 51% of the vote reported. They move the status of the race from Edge Clinton to Leaning Clinton. CBS looks at NC and finds Clinton leading 49% to 47% with 59% reporting, and they affirm their status of ‘Edge Clinton.’

    8:37 pm

    ABC’s Jonathan Karl says Paul Ryan will face a challenge for speaker of the house.
    John Dickerson on CBS credits Tim Kaine for Clinton’s success tonight in VA. Scott Pelley counters this point, suggesting that given Kaine’s popularity, Clinton should have probably won VA more easily.
    CNN’s John King says that even though Trump leads in VA, there are many votes yet to come from the DC suburbs.

    8:38 pm

    Bob Schieffer on CBS says Clinton is attracting educated white women in NC and VA along with minorities, which explains her success in these states.
    Megyn Kelly asks Chris Stirewalt on Fox News if he can tell anything yet based on the numbers. He says ‘get the hanging chads’ video from 2000 ready. Then Stirewalt looks at one FL county where he expected Trump to perform better and asks rhetorically, where are the hidden Trump voters who were supposed to show up? He then says who did show up were first time Hispanic voters.

    8:39 pm

    ABC’s Tom Llamas reminds their panel that Trump pulled out of WI in the closing days of the campaign. Jonathan Karl points out that Ryan never appeared together with Trump.
    Michael Gerson, interviewed on CBS says the Republicans again have tried a white turnout election even though the wise said after 2012 that it cannot work, and there needs to be multi-cultural outreach. Ben Domenech agrees with Gerson and says the real question for the GOP is what comes next (he assumes Trump is losing). He cites the GOP senators tonight doing better than Trump. He thinks younger faces like Rubio need to lead the GOP. Trump got in their way. Michele Norris adds that even if Trump wins, the Republican Party will have to rebuild. Domenech closes the exchange by saying nobody trusts the Republican Party to lead any more.
    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer seems delighted at Clinton’s 85,000 vote lead in NC, even though the lead for her had been larger.
    Matthew Dowd on ABC raises the very first alarm on that network that election night 2016 isn’t the wave for Democrats that some expected. He says Republicans have held the house, and now the senate looks more possible for them to hold, and so it is still a country governed by two political parties.

    8:40 pm

    Brian Williams and Steve Schmidt on MSNBC discuss the rural vote in America and their rebellion over the political correctness imposed upon them.
    NBC reporter in King of Prussia, PA finds a white female voter who has always voted Republican but this year voted for Clinton because she is the most knowledgeable and most qualified for the position, and because she agrees with what she stands for.
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl looks at NH and instead of looking at results coming in points out Trump has been largely behind in the polling of NH.

    8:41 pm

    Chris Matthews asks Steve Schmidt if there is a hidden Trump vote tonight, and he replies, ‘No,’ but there might be a hidden Clinton vote among Republican women.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News reflects on the possibility that Hispanic voters in FL will deliver the election to Clinton, because Trump cannot win without FL.

    8:42 pm

    CNN’s John King says Trump is closing in OH, says Republicans should not give up on Trump’s chances in OH. Clinton’s lead has shrunken to just 49.4% to 46.8% with 34% counted.
    CBS takes a quick look at FL before a commercial break and finds Trump leading now by over 100,000 votes, 4,288,072 to Clinton’s 4,184,059.
    Dana Perino on Fox News suggests that the Hispanic vote in FL and NV could be the difference for Clinton. Perino says the election comes down to Trump supporters’ enthusiasm versus Clinton’s organization.

    8:43 pm

    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer expresses concern about NC where Clinton’s lead has shrunken to just 66,000 votes.
    George Stephanopoulos and Cecilia Vega on ABC point out that if Clinton holds on to win NH, then it forces Trump to have to flip one of the big blue states.
    Fox News checks on FL where Trump now leads 49% to 47.9%.
    ABC News projects Tammy Duckworth has defeated Mark Kirk in the IL senate race.

    8:44 pm

    ABC looks at FL again and finds Trump with a growing lead there. Jonathan Karl finds Volusia County, a place where Trump is running it up compared to Romney in 2012. Despite this, Karl paints a more positive picture for Clinton in FL due to Hispanic voters in exit polling.
    MSNBC changes their ranking of NC from “Too early to call” to “Too close to call.”

    8:45 pm

    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at VA and finds there is still a lot of vote left in northern VA which is good for Clinton. He also warns that the numbers are big for Trump in Trump territory too.
    CBS’s reporter at the Rubio victory speech informs the CBS panel that Trump leads by 100,000 and the votes are starting to run out for Clinton. He now leads in FL 4,302,922 to Clinton’s 4,191,989. The reporter affirms the common refrain that Trump cannot win without FL.
    Megyn Kelly announces that Fox News is seeing signs the race for president is tightening.

    8:46 pm

    NBC reporter from Grand Rapids, MI also reports that Detroit may have underperformed for Clinton, but the Republican areas around Grand Rapids had strong turnout.
    CBS’s Anthony Salvanto looks at FL and says Clinton is doing well in the southeast FL counties; however, elsewhere she is slightly under-performing, and Trump is over-performing.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC says about one-third of the vote in OH has been counted, and Clinton has a narrow lead, and there are signs of trouble for Donald Trump. Karl points to Delaware County, where Romney won by 20 points, Trump only leads by a point. Matthew Dowd agrees that Trump must win FL and OH. Dowd again throws a little bit of concern into the panel by pointing out that while it is true Clinton is running it up where she needs to, so is Donald Trump in his areas.

    8:47 pm

    Mike Huckabee on Fox News observed that those who ran from Trump are doing poorly, while those who stood with him are winning, and it says a whole lot about where the election is going to go.
    MSNBC shows Trump leading the national popular vote.
    CNN reports that Trump’s lead in FL has grown to 111,000 votes with 91% reporting, 49.1% to 47.8%. Meanwhile Trump leads in VA 50.2% to 44.8% with 59% reported. Clinton’s lead in OH has shrunken to just 49% to 47.2% with 34% reported. Clinton’s lead in NC stands at 49.8% to 47.7% with 61% reported.
    Dana Loesch on Fox News says she hopes the election is not too close to call as she does not want to see another election night like in 2000. Loesch goes on to say there are a lot of people who really do not like Clinton.

    8:48 pm

    Megyn Kelly on Fox News presents the possibility that “the race could be turning right now” in Trump’s favor based on what they see in battleground state returns. Kelly seems alarmed that no key state has been called yet, including VA and PA where Clinton was supposed to win, and at the same time Trump leads in FL and is in a good position in OH. Marc Thiessen points out that in OH in FL both senate candidates ran well ahead of Trump.
    Bret Baier on Fox News questions Richard Fowler, asking why the election is so close. Fowler says Democrats always thought it was going to be close. Fowler points to the early voting and organization of the Clinton campaign in FL, and OH where the Clinton team is going door to door and forcing people to go to the polls and the Trump campaign doesn’t have that. Baier counters by reminding Fowler that the early vote in FL was already counted (and motions to the screen showing Trump’s lead of 49.1% to 47.8% in FL, but Fowler doesn’t back down saying Clinton can win on Broward County. Mike Huckabee jumps into the discussion to say Trump’s voters only needed to know it was election day, they were not like Democrat voters who needed to be given “a sandwich, a shot of whiskey, and a ride to the polls.” Fowler counters that when all the votes are counted Clinton will win FL pretty handily.
    Andrea Mitchell reporting for MSNBC at the Javits Center says there is some nervousness being reported from Democrats in MI. Democrat turn out is reportedly down in Detroit.
    Katy Tur reporting for MSNBC says there is record turnout in some of the GOP counties in MI. The Trump campaign optimistic for MI.
    Jake Tapper on CNN expresses surprise that FL is so close given that both campaigns had expressed the expectation that Clinton was in the better position to carry the state. He thinks Southeast FL votes can still turn it around for Clinton.

    8:49 pm

    Nicolle Wallace on NBC says Paul Ryan struggled greatly with endorsing Trump. There is a lot of undercurrent that he may be in jeopardy in his speakership. Tom Brokaw responds that if Trump does win tonight, Paul Ryan would have a lot of trouble on his hands.
    John Dickerson on CBS attempts to cast Trump’s lead in FL as an anomaly because he finds him leading there among white college-educated women 58/39. The other panelists are shocked at this number. He mentions the older, more traditionally Republican voters in FL as the explanation for this lead. He suggests that we should expect other states to be different in this key demographic. Charlie Rose asks Dickerson if there are any other battleground states where Trump leads among white college-educated women, and Dickerson says he has not found any yet.

    8:50 pm

    Gloria Borger on CNN says her Republican sources in FL have reported that their Democrat counterparts are now very worried about FL.
    Richard Fowler on Fox News guarantees that at eleven o’clock the FL results will look a lot different (in favor of Clinton).
    GOP strategist Alex Castellanos on ABC is the first on that network to suggest that there seems to be a ‘Trump wave’ in rural areas, particularly in rural FL. He goes on to say, ‘if that is true in places like NC and OH, you ought to keep an eye on some of these rural counties, because they might balance the scales.”

    8:51 pm

    CNN panel of commentators all agree that Trump cannot win the election without FL, and some of them suggest there is still room for Hillary to win if she gets enough out of southeast FL. David Axelrod warns it is going to be close. He says Trump cannot win without FL. Gloria Borger points out for the first time on CNN that Trump has done well in rural areas.

    8:52 pm

    Democrat strategist Stephanie Cutter on ABC says FL looks like it will be close.

    8:53 pm

    CNN’s Jeff Zeleny at Clinton headquarters says there is no panic about FL due to Broward county; Clinton campaign is concerned about PA. Zeleny says PA is unknown due to no early voting.
    Democrat strategist Stephanie Cutter on ABC says still strong Clinton areas in FL can pull it out.
    ABC interviews Brian Fallon, campaign spokesman at the Clinton headquarters says if they win FL it will be the Latino vote. However, the lack of confidence about FL was clear in his comments. Trump would have to run the table to win, he feels ‘very good’ about MI and PA. Says Clinton will bring the nation together. Fallon says Clinton will be president of everyone as she brings country together.

    8:54 pm

    CNN’s Sara Murray at Trump headquarters says the Trump team is recognizing it is closer than expected and they are pleased with what they see so far in FL.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC sees more votes in southeast FL counties, but Trump still has votes in the panhandle. He says Trump is showing surprising strength in rural FL areas. Then he looks at NC where Clinton’s lead has been shrinking. Down to only 32,000, due to high turnout in rural areas for Trump.
    Democrat Bill Burton is interviewed by Fox News and he is very dismissive of Trump’s lead in VA saying this was expected. Regarding FL he says Broward County is barely counted. Burton is very confident Clinton will win the election and thinks the urban areas will come through to give her wins in key states.

    8:55 pm

    Dana Bash on CNN says it is a divided country. John King looks at FL again, and again puts hope in Broward County based on the low percentage of votes counted. [Interestingly, when King went back to compare to 2012, the numbers back then were shown only in percentages, not raw vote. Had he compared raw vote, he might have found much more of Broward counted for 2016 than the low percentage shown on his screen.]

    8:56 pm

    Chuck Todd on NBC takes a quick look at FL, NC and VA and says “Wow” as they are all very close.

    8:57 pm

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says that at almost 9 pm no one thought it would still be this close. Says the Trump is still in this race tonight.

    8:58 pm

    John King points out that Trump is doing much better than Romney did four years ago in the Tampa/St. Petersburg areas in FL.

  455. DW says:

    9:00-10:00: Hour of Concern

    The hour did not get off to a good start for Clinton. She was declared winner of NY immediately, but that was all. Shockingly, MN and WI were deemed too close to call by all the networks. Interestingly, some of the networks seemed unprepared to analyze WI and therefore completely avoided the state. Right after the top of the hour Trump took the lead in OH and NC, also shocking the media. This led media analysts to openly affirm that Trump was still in play and the election is not yet over. This concern only strengthened as the hour moved along and Trump’s lead grew in FL, NC and OH. This hour the media shifted the narrative as Trump’s path grew wider, and Clinton’s narrower.

    9:00 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CT by NY Times.
    Trump projected winner in WY (3; 85), ND (3; 88), SD (3; 91), KS (6; 97) and NE (4; 101) by all networks.
    Clinton projected winner in NY (29; 104) by all networks.
    TX too close to call according to CNN, Trump projected winner in TX (38; 139) by all other networks.
    NM too close to call but Clinton leading according to Fox News and NBC, other networks, no projection.
    Trump projected winner in LA (8; 147) by NBC, other networks too close to call.
    Of the states closing at 9:00 pm, CBS’s Scott Pelley describes the only four battleground states as AZ, CO, WI and MI.
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl acknowledges Trump has 100,000 vote lead in FL, but believes Clinton will bounce back to win due to Miami-Dade returns yet to come, and Broward county which shows only 16% of the precincts reporting.

    9:01 pm

    AZ, CO, MI, MN and WI too close to call by all networks.
    ABC reports that Trump has now tied Clinton in NC. An ABC’s Byron Pitts pointed out that Trump had 3 offices in NC, while Clinton had 33.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says the Democrat pipe dream for TX stays in the pipe.
    MSNBC and Fox News projects McCain winner over Kirkpatrick in AZ senate race.

    9:02 pm

    Chuck Todd on NBC promises that we will not call FL before midnight. On screen NBC shows Trump leading FL by 139,516 votes. NBC also looks at OH where Trump has taken the lead by 2,696 votes with 37% reported. Then NBC looks at NC and finds Clintons big earlier lead has dwindled down to just 3,712 votes with 68% reported.
    CBS News looks at FL to find Trump ahead 4,358,676 to 4,219,160 with 91% reported. Gayle King on CBS is incredulous over the news that Trump is doing well in FL among educated women. She then rants about the list of ways Trump is alleged to have offended women. John Dickerson replies that Republican voters are willing to forgive him these things, and they don’t like Hillary Clinton. Dickerson paints it as a battle between urban and rural.
    CNN analysts discuss how Trump has gotten out the rural vote in FL much more than prior GOP candidates and maybe the Hispanic vote has not turned out to be as strong for Clinton as expected.
    Fox News says it is too early to call the WI senate race between Russ Feingold and Republican incumbent Ron Johnson.

    9:03 pm

    CNN update on battleground states: Trump ahead by 143,361 in FL, 49.2% to 47.6% with 91% reported; Trump has taken the lead in OH, up 52,353 votes, 49.2% to 46.9%, with 39% counted; Trump ahead 108,124 votes, 49.5% to 45.4%, in VA with 66% reporting; Trump leading by 343,686 votes, 62.5% to 35.1%, in GA with 29% reporting; Trump has taken the lead in NC by 2,959 votes, 48.8% to 48.7% with 69% counted; Clinton ahead in NH by 4,570 votes, 49.9% to 45%, with 13% reporting; Clinton ahead in MI by 13,771 votes, 48.7% to 46.2%, with 11% reporting; Clinton ahead in PA by 106,392 votes, 65.9% to 30.8%, with only 5% counted; Clinton leads in CO by 42,438 votes, 57.9% to 35.8%, with 7% counted.
    Trump projected winner in AR by Fox News.
    Cecilia Vega on ABC reminds their panel that the Clinton campaign has their sights set high tonight hoping to win Nebraska’s 2nd congressional district, AZ, and even UT.

    9:04 pm

    Brit Hume on Fox News observes that live online prediction models like 538 show a significant shift in Trump’s favor. Also stunning is that 538 now shows Republicans with a 69% chance of holding Senate control. Furthermore, Nate Silver says it is now a better than even chance that Trump wins FL.
    Steve Schmidt and Rachel Maddow on MSNBC remind viewers that Trump criticized John McCain for being a prisoner of war.
    Scott Pelley on CBS says, “it is going to be a long, close race tonight,” after observing that none of the battleground states have been called.

    9:05 pm

    Chris Wallace on Fox News says he is now “open to the possibility Donald Trump could be the next president of the United States.” Wallace goes on to say that at the start of the night he assumed Clinton would win FL on the surge of Hispanics. FL, NC, OH, and NH could go either way, says he still thinks you would rather be Clinton than Trump, but it is now very close. Bret Baier affirms that his Republican contacts tell him they do not believe Trump’s lead in VA can hold up due to northern VA.
    ABC’s Tom Llamas mocks Trump’s early claim that he would win NY, and he reports news that Mike Pence is on the way to join Trump to watch the results.
    Tom Brokaw suggests that Clinton was way ahead in the polls, then Comey made his announcement and she went down, and then on Sunday Comey dropped in the investigation, so she seems to be making a comeback. Brokaw admits that the race is tight, and it is going deeper into the evening that people thought it would.
    Anthony Mason on CBS looks at PA exit polling and finds Clinton leading Trump 73/24 in urban areas, Trump leading Clinton 72/24 in rural areas, while being tied at 48 in suburbs. However, Mason suggests there is good news for Clinton in that Mitt Romney won (at 52%) suburban women in PA four years ago, but Clinton is winning them tonight 56/40. The good news for Trump is him winning late deciders in PA 52/39, and PA had no early voting.

    9:06 pm

    Brit Hume on Fox News: “[Trump] is in this.” Hume says Clinton is doing well in her areas but in rural areas Trump is running it up as well. Megyn Kelly says she doesn’t see a treasure trove of remaining votes in FL that will save her.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC laughs off Trump’s late campaign effort to win MN.

    9:07 pm

    Trump projected winner in AR by CBS.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at the FL map again, and with 92% reported, says the remaining votes in Broward County makes the Clinton people really happy. He says there is still a little more out of Miami-Dade which has already shattered turnout records, but Todd found Hillsborough has tightened some, to the point where Trump’s deficit is smaller than Romney’s was. Todd concludes it is going to be very, very close.
    CNN now describes Trump’s lead in FL as ‘impressive.’ John King says Trump is running it up among rural voters.
    MSNBC’s Steve Karnacki checks on NC and finds Trump has now taken the lead.

    9:08 pm

    ABC’s Matthew Dowd characterizes Trump’s efforts at the upper Midwest as ‘experimenting’ among states.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at VA with 68% reported, and finds Trump’s lead beginning to narrow as northern VA still has yet to count most of its votes.
    John Dickerson on CBS says the close race looks like a generic Democrat versus a generic Republican. Norah O’Donnell asks the CBS panel what you are nervous about if you are in Trump Tower. Scott Pelley responds, “You are holding your breath.” John Dickerson counters that you are happy it’s a tossup race, but warns that Trump has to win in more places than Clinton. Bob Schieffer insists that there are no surprises yet; however, he is surprised FL has not been called. He then asks for more information about what is going on in GA. He goes on to warn that Trump is going to need to start winning something he wasn’t supposed to win.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News reminds viewers that there was a drop off in Clinton’s polling numbers in the week leading up to the election following the James Comey announcement.

    9:09 pm

    Trump projected winner in AR by ABC.
    Carl Cameron reporting for Fox News at Trump campaign headquarters says there is a ‘palpable increase of enthusiasm’ and the audience is growing in size. Cameron suggests it is so close we might not hear a concession or victory speech tonight.
    Nicolle Wallace upon seeing the tight races in NC and VA concludes that it is going to be a long night. She says that if Trump can hold some of these early states then MI or MN could be the next step in his path. Rachel Maddow reminds them that MN and MI are too close to call, not too early (meaning they have data returned, and it shows a very tight race). Steve Schmidt responds that they must be nervously optimistic in Trump tower, and there is sweat on the brow at Clinton headquarters.
    Gayle King on CBS nervously asks John Dickerson if we thought these battleground states were going to be so close. Dickerson waffles, suggesting that things have tightened and normally by now battleground states are being called, but we knew it was going to be this close based on the polls.

    9:10 pm

    Trump projected winner in AL by NY Times.
    Andrea Mitchell at Clinton headquarters says the Clinton campaign was so confident about VA that they took money out of the state to spend elsewhere. The fact that VA is closer than they expected is not good news for them. The campaign is still watching FL and are hopeful about NC due to extended voting hours in Durham, and MI makes them nervous as they didn’t get the numbers out of Detroit they wanted. Mitchell asks the panel about the Omaha, NE district, because George Soros promised he would deliver that district to Clinton, going door to door to get the vote out. Lester Holt ignores her question and never checks on it.
    ABC news does a post-mortem on why Trump is expected to lose WI, due to conservatives never warming to him. Bill Kristol confirms WI was never a good fit for Trump. He thinks Paul Ryan will be the most important Republican after the night.
    MSNBC interviews Howard Fineman who says he spoke to the Clinton team, just a few hours ago they expected Clinton to win FL by 5 points. Obviously this is not happening based on current totals. He says the question around the world is whether or not this election is another Brexit. Voters going for non-globalist ideals. He concludes that with FL and VA so close it is not a good sign for Clinton.
    John Dickerson on CBS says that MI is about to become one of the states talked about as Trump made a last ditch effort there.
    CNN still looking at FL to see if there is any path for Clinton, and while they were discussing it, the numbers for Broward County jumped to almost 50% reported and it barely moved the advantage for Trump statewide. CNN’s John King is now skeptical about Clinton’s chances and says Trump campaign should be happy with these numbers. 93% now counted in FL.
    Jennifer Griffin reporting for Fox News at Clinton headquarters says that perhaps there was good reason for Clinton’s team canceling the victory fireworks.

    9:11 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CT by ABC.
    James Carville interviewed on MSNBC says FL is a problem right now, and if Clinton loses VA she loses the election. Carville says he expected to be in a better mood at this point.
    NBC looks at MI and finds Trump ahead by 71 votes, and in OH Trump leads by 161,906 votes with 46% reported.
    CBS’s Charlie Rose interviews Frank Luntz, Peggy Noonan and Michael Gerson, asking them why the race is so close. Luntz says the reason is that everyone showed up to vote today. Noonan responds by reflecting on how Trump appealed to the white working class, but not the Latino working class or the black working class. Gerson sees a reaction to the establishment and globalization.
    CNN’s John King reports that OH is now swinging to Trump.

    9:12 pm

    Trump projected winner in AR and TX by CNN.
    Michael Steele interviewed on MSNBC points to Trump’s strategy of locating the rural white vote the reason for the tight race.
    Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin reports that there is no public concern yet at the Clinton campaign headquarters, but they are not spiking the football.
    Katy Tur at the Trump headquarters reports for NBC that the feeling in the room is very excited, very upbeat. The longer the night draws out the better it is for them. She says Trump had pulled out of VA three weeks ago, but it is close. She says the Trump campaign doesn’t think they will call OH until tomorrow. But they are also focusing on MI. They think his jobs message will resonate in MI, and the black vote will be down, as is the democrat vote in Flint, MI.

    9:13 pm

    ABC’s Cecilia Vega says the Clinton campaign thinks they have AZ ‘locked-in.’
    Frank Luntz on CBS says issues did not matter in this election. Luntz looking exit polling says only 53% felt Clinton was qualified, while just 37% said the same of Trump. As to having the right temperament, Clinton won 56% to Trump’s 34%. He concludes people voted on persona, and that is where Clinton had the advantage. Peggy Noonan counters that Trump did have ideas, but his actions caused voters to doubt that he had the right temperament. Michael Gerson concludes the exchange by pointing out that neither candidate has the skills to bring the country together.
    Karl Rove on Fox News observes that no swing state has been called.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC still thinks FL has good news for Clinton due to Broward County with only 48% reported there.

    9:14 pm

    CNN’s John King shows the map of states and points out that Trump now has a path to 270 in that he leads in FL, VA, OH, WI and MI.
    NBC report from Cleveland, OH says both sides are very nervous. However, there was not a big turnout in Cleveland. The reports are that there was no late rush, no long lines.
    John Dickerson on CBS says he was talking with some Senate Republicans who were already saying what Clinton would have to do should she win. They were already assuming a bad night for Trump.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News says prognostication web sites now say Trump has an 85% chance of winning FL. Chris Stirewalt says FL cannot be called yet. Karl Rove, when pressed by Brit Hume, says he thinks Trump will win FL.

    9:15 pm

    MSNBC’s Steve Karnacki looks again at FL, and he says there are some votes in Broward to come in. The problem is there isn’t much election day vote left. The GOP areas also have more votes. 148,000 vote gap appeared as Karnacki spoke, jumping about 15,000 votes in Trump’s favor.
    CBS looks quickly at FL to find Trump ahead 4,478,984 to 4,330,262 with 93% reported, and in NC, Trump leading 1,633,004 to Clinton’s 1,611,109.

    9:16 pm

    CNN’s John King takes a close county by county look at VA to see how many votes are left and concludes there are a lot of votes left for Clinton. King points out that regardless the outcome few on either side would have envisioned VA still being a tossup with 71% of the vote counted and Trump slightly leading.

    9:17 pm

    VA moved from Leaning Clinton to Tossup by CBS. John Dickerson explains that this means it is getting closer for Trump. He says he does not know why, so Scott Pelley goes to Anthony Salvanto, their data analyst. Salvanto says the western part of the state is going to Trump more heavily than anyone expected. Clinton is doing well in the DC suburbs, not quite well enough. He sees a rural, urban split.
    CNN looks at NC where 71% of the vote has been counted. Trump leads by about 20,000 votes. John King believes there are many Democrat areas not yet reported in.
    Karl Rove on Fox News reminds their panel that even if Trump wins NC, FL, and OH, he still needs to break the ‘blue-wall’ to win the election. Megyn Kelly points out that Trump has not lost any state that he needs and is in play in PA, MI, WI and MN.

    9:18 pm

    ABC’s Amy Robach reporting from Trump headquarters says the mood has dramatically changed, with the crowd much more hopeful as they see the FL results. There is a lot of cheering and excitement.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at NC and finds Trump leading by over 20,000 votes with 71% reported; in FL he finds 93% reported and suggests it all comes down to Broward County.
    Anthony Salvanto on CBS looks at FL and he sees Clinton doing well in southeast FL, but not quite well enough. Trump is adding up small numbers of voters in small counties, and it offsets southeast FL. Pelley responds that Trump must win FL to win the presidency, and so far he is doing it.

    9:19 pm

    ABC analysts agree that “Trump is in the game.” Jonathan Karl looks at their scenarios map, where they give Trump FL, NC, OH IA AZ, and NH, totaling 253 Electoral votes while Clinton is given PA, VA, NV, CO, MI and WI giving her 274 Electoral votes. Karl thinks MI is the state Trump would have the best chance to win.
    Susannah Guthrie on NBC says “there are some real jitters setting in at Clinton headquarters right now, and there is hope on the Trump side.”

    9:20 pm

    CNN’s John King looks at OH and finds there is very good news for the Trump campaign with a 200,000 vote lead and a lot of rural votes yet to be counted. He points out that Trump is performing better than Romney in blue-collar industrial areas.

    9:21 pm

    ABC’s David Muir points out Clinton doing more poorly than expected among women in FL.
    MSNBC’s Steve Karnacki looks at OH, and finds Trump leading by 200,000 votes with half the vote in. Sees big pockets of more Clinton votes from Cleveland and Columbus. But warns the rural areas running it up for Trump.
    ABC’s democrat strategist Stephanie Cutter admits MI is the state most at risk in the upper Midwest. She is confident college educated women will take Clinton over the top. She says Clinton feels very good about PA. from all sides—suburbs, urban areas included.
    CBS checks FL again and with 94% reported, Trump leads 4,510,494 to Clinton’s 4,370,857, described as a ‘slight edge’ by Norah O’Donnell. She goes on to say how just hours ago the Clinton team was confident about FL because they would turn out enough Hispanic and Black voters to win.
    CNN checks on NH and finds Clinton barely ahead with many votes yet to count.
    Fox News reporter in FL says Clinton is getting her numbers in Democratic leaning counties in southeast FL, and yet is struggling statewide due to the passionate Trump supporters who are turning out.

    9:22 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CT by Fox News.
    ABC’s Republican strategist Alex Castellanos counters Stephanie Cutter saying FL is telling us something about other states. Clinton doing well in the I-4 corridor means she will do well in CO; while Trump running it up in northern FL bodes well for his chances in MI.
    Fox News reports from FL that the normally large Democrat returns in southeast FL do not appear to be enough due to large rural turnout for Trump across the rest of the state.
    NBC’s exit polling expert says there is a large gap between rural and urban voters, reflecting enormous division in America.

    9:23 pm

    CNN’s early look at MI returns finds Trump leading by 18,240 votes, 48.7% to 46.2%, with 15% counted. John Kings says this proves Trump will be competitive.
    Fox News reporter in OH suggests Portman’s win may have helped Trump in the state.

    9:24 pm

    MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt reports that there is a dramatic shift in the conversation with both campaigns. She says earlier today both Republicans and Democrats saw Clinton winning the white house and Democrats controlling the senate. She says that has changed in the last two hours. Democrats are worried about the rural turnout in FL, and what that means for PA and MI. Hunt’s sources also confirm there is much less chance of Democrats taking back the senate right now. Hunt confirms Joe Manchin may not stay a Democrat if the senate is 50/50 split.
    Fox News reporter in NC senses a rebellious spirit there among voters.
    Bret Baier on Fox News interviews Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill who begins the interview by saying we all knew that this was going to be a close race, and it is close. She thinks it is too early, but is confident Clinton will be elected. McCaskill goes on to say that Democrats will take control of the US senate, having already picked up one seat. Megyn Kelly asks McCaskill if FL is now lost for Clinton, and McCaskill replies saying it is close, but there are still votes to be counted. McCaskill is still confident Clinton will win the election.

    9:25 pm

    CNN shows Clinton lead in PA over 177,781 votes, 60.2% to 36.4%, with 12% reporting.
    John Dickerson on CBS sees a link among the rust belt states, and the division between college-educated voters and those not educated.

    9:26 pm

    MSNBC reporter Kristen Welker from the Javits Center where there is focus and concern about FL being so close. She says Clinton campaign operatives have told her there are multiple paths without FL. She says Clinton’s path is harder without FL, the operatives tell her they are going to hold MI. The stress level is up there. Moments of cheerer are getting fewer and fewer. Top surrogates are still confident with a number of paths to 270.

    9:27 pm

    Joe Trippi on Fox News thinks Clinton is leading in key states, but he is most interested in NH, because if the blue wall holds and she wins NH, then Trump cannot get a victory. Trippi affirms he is not at all worried about the outcome, and Clinton may still win FL and it will be a squeaker either way.

    9:28 pm

    CNN looks again at VA, and John King says if Trump wins VA then he more than likely wins NC. But with 76% of the vote counted, there are a lot of votes still left in the DC suburbs.

    9:29 pm

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says if it was going to be a good night for Trump, then why is GA still not called? Says Trump is not strong across the board. He says PA is still the firewall. He then expresses confidence in the 100 years of polling elections.
    Joi Trippi on Fox News says based on the votes he sees coming in Clinton will win PA and MI, however, he concedes that if the Fox News Decision Desk has not yet called these states there is a reason. Bret Baier looking at exit polling says the gender gap is closing.

    9:30 pm

    Trump projected winner in AR by NY Times.
    Dana Perino on Fox News says that perhaps the Democrats have overestimated the power of people voting for the first woman president.
    NBC looks at the battleground states and finds Trump leading FL by 141,028 votes with 94% reported; Trump leading in MI by 28,463 votes with 16% reported; Trump leading in OH by 235,208 votes with 53% reported (Lester Holt says OH could go into the morning before it is called); Trump leading in NC by 55,925 votes with 76% reported; Trump leading in GA by 382,180 votes with 41% reported; Trump leading NH by 1,710 votes with 22% reported; Clinton leading in PA by 156,423 votes with 16% reported.
    CNN again looks at updated battleground state numbers. FL has 94% reported and Trump leads by 141,028 votes, 49.2% to 47.7%; OH has 53% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 235,208 votes, 51.8% to 44%; VA has 77% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 42,604 votes, 48.1% to 46.8%; GA has 41% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 384,917 votes, 59.5% to 37.8%; NC has 76% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 55,925 votes, 49.5% to 47.9%; MI has 17% reported and Trump leads by 28,235 votes, 49.1% to 45.8%; NH has 25% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 903 votes, 47.7% to 47.2%; WI has 12% of the vote reported and Clinton leads by 25,368 votes, 50.9% to 44.1%; CO has 42% of the vote reported and Clinton leads by 55,413 votes, 48.7% to 44%; PA has 17% reported and Clinton leads by 154,709 votes, 56% to 40.6%. Trump has 128 electoral votes to Clinton’s 97 as of this CNN report.

    9:31 pm

    ABC’s Jonathan Karl still believes Clinton can get enough from Broward County to win FL.
    Steve Schmidt on MSNBC says politics is an expectations game, and no one here expected at this hour to be looking at these tight margins as Trump vastly over-performs expectations due to surge in rural vote.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC reminds viewers all the advantages Clinton had in money, advertising, ground game, etc.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS raises the alarm that something is going on–that battleground states like MI are not being called, even though in prior years they were called by 9 pm. She lists these states as PA, where with 16% reported it is still a Tossup, with Trump and Clinton tied at 48%; FL, where Trump leads 49% to 47% (4,512,920 to 4,371,892) with 94% reported. O’Donnell says Democrats were boastful about FL earlier in the day but now she is getting ‘radio silence’ from them. Once again, Scott Pelley interrupts to insist that Trump must win FL, and so far, he is. Then O’Donnell looks at OH where Trump has taken the lead 51% to 43% (1,553,804 to 1,318,596) with 53% reported. Then looking at CO, CBS finds Clinton leading 50% to 44% with 42% reported; then in MI with 17% reported, Trump leading 47% to 46%.
    Chris Stirewalt on Fox News reminds the panel that they have had ‘zero total surprises’ on the electoral map thus far. However, if Trump does win FL and OH, it would be important for him, but not really a surprise. Then the election comes down to NC, NH, PA, MI, and WI.

    9:32 pm

    ABC news anchors appear anxious as Trump now has leads in FL, NC, NH, OH, NH and MI.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at FL and sees more votes still to come from Broward County and he speculates as to the total vote left and the percentage of what she can get there. He concludes that if there are 400,000 votes left, and she wins them 70/30, she will net 140,000 votes, which is the current lead of Trump. Todd goes on to say he doesn’t know if it is enough for Clinton to catch up or enough for Trump to hold on, but while it may not be less than 500 votes in the end, it will be less than a percentage point. He says, we just don’t know.
    Karl Rove on Fox News looks at the numbers in OH and says if he were Trump he would be a little concerned because he is not getting the numbers there he needs to get in traditionally conservative suburbs.
    Cecilia Vega on ABC thinks Clinton’s team was head-faking about MI but the fact that they went back to the state late in the campaign meant it was close.

    9:33 pm

    Trump projected winner in LA by ABC. Tom Llamas on ABC reports from the Trump campaign that they are very excited with what they see.
    CNN’s Jim Acosta reporting from the Trump campaign headquarters, says they are happy campers and there is a buzz of excitement as they are now much more optimistic.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says if you are the Clinton campaign, the way the rest of the map looks, you do not want to see FL go red.
    Nicole Wallace says that if you are the Trump campaign, you are saying ‘I told you so.’ The election was a lot closer than everyone thought. If Clinton wins, it won’t be going away. The Clinton campaign felt the last 72 hours felt they had this. Chuck Todd says everyone missed the rural Trump vote coming in at these numbers.
    Karl Rove on Fox News thinks African-American turnout in key urban areas of OH might be weak.

    9:34 pm

    ABC’s Matthew Dowd says Trump is over-performing in many states. Republican strategist Alex Castellanos says the missing Trump voters have shown up—in rural America. Says Trump can get to 275 with FL, OH, NC, MI and holding on to AZ. Martha Raddatz says she saw the excitement in rural America as she traveled around.
    Tom Brokaw says Trump worked the voters from the ground up. However it turns out, it will be much closer. Chuck Todd says the DOW futures are tanking in light of what is happening (the first mention of the market reaction on NBC). This exchange between Wallace, Brokaw and Todd seems to be NBC’s moment they realize the election is not going Clinton’s way, and they begin to fear Trump could win.

    9:35 pm

    CNN’s Brianna Keilar reports from the Javits Center Clinton campaign headquarters, where she says there are many anxious faces as they are watching the returns carefully. Clinton is reportedly working on both speeches.
    ABC shows picture of Trump watching the returns and analyst says there is a reason for them to smile, but warns there are a lot of Broward County votes left in FL with 75% reported.
    Joe Trippi on Fox News concedes that Republicans have come home. He also says he expected Clinton to take an early lead in FL and hold it, and that in OH, Trump would take an early lead, hold it and win it. But now he thinks it could flip and Trump win FL but lose OH.

    9:36 pm

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN concedes that Trump is doing remarkably well. Jack Tapper replies, “There is a very clear path for Donald Trump.” Tapper suggests the ‘blue wall’ may be in trouble.
    Joe Trippi on Fox News says that before election night he thought Trump would win OH and Clinton FL, but given the returns thus far he would not be surprised if the reverse happened.
    MSNBC looks at key states and finds Trump ahead in FL by 138,008 with 94% reporting; PA too close to call with Clinton ahead 225,959 votes with 21% reported; OH too close to call with Trump ahead 278,100 votes with 55% reported; GA too close to call with Trump leading by 400,283 votes with 42% in; Trump leading by 43,340 votes in MI with 18% reported; NC too close to call with Trump ahead by 80,405 votes with 77% reported; VA too close to call with Trump ahead 25,296 votes and 78% reported; MN too close to call, Trump ahead 803 votes with 2% reported; NH too close to call with Clinton ahead 621 votes with 25% reported.

    9:37 pm

    Jake Tapper on CNN stresses how important it is that Clinton win the firewall states of NH, VA, PA and MI. She can lose MI and FL but she cannot lose any of those four states.
    Terry Moran on ABC says he covered Brexit, and he is now starting to have a sense of de-ja-vu.
    The NBC reporter at the NC Pat McCrory headquarters, indicates the spokesman there says Trump is well on the way to winning NC.
    Gayle King on CBS asks the question, “What does it mean to ‘Make America Great Again’?” John Dickerson answers, to some, it means a world in which the economy is better, but to others it means an America where there is less of a presence of minorities.
    CNN again looks at updated battleground state numbers. VA has 78% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 20,619 votes, 47.8% to 47.1%; MI has 19% reported and Trump leads by 44, 133 votes, 49.8% to 45.1%; NH has 25% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 404 votes, 47.5% to 47.3; PA has 21% reported and Clinton leads by 221,506 votes, 57.1% to 39.7%.
    Byron Pitts on ABC suggests blacks now have a better country, but rural whites now have a poorer country.

    9:38 pm

    Kelly Megyn on Fox News raises the prospect that Trump could win, and the GOP could hold the senate.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC checks VA and sees the gap down to just 25,000 votes but with plenty of votes in northern VA for Clinton to close that gap. As he speaks the lead closed to just 20,000. But he acknowledges we were not supposed to even be talking about VA at this point. He also checks FL and sees Trump’s lead as stubborn. He is not sure how much is still out there to help Clinton.
    NBC report from Miami, FL watch party. The mood is tense as they watch the returns. There was a record turnout among Latinos, but the fact Trump is leading is very personal to the people in the room and fear their families could be split up.
    CBS looks at exit polling in MI and finds Trump leading Clinton 61% to 31% among whites without a college degree, outperforming Mitt Romney who won that group more narrowly four years ago. He also leads her among men in MI 52% to 40%, even though men in MI went narrowly for Obama in 2012. Gayle King also points out that in MI Trump leads Clinton white college-educated voters 50% to 43%.

    9:39 pm

    Jake Tapper on CNN says Trump has a clear path, and if Trump wins the election it would put the polling industry and online prognosticators out of business. Tapper again asserts Trump has a credible path to victory.
    Chuck Todd on NBC goes to the map to consider electoral college scenarios, and he gives Trump FL, GA, NC and OH where he is leading, along with western states where they are still voting, but expected to go Republican. Trump sits at 248. Todd then assumes AZ goes to Trump putting him at 259. Then he puts in four out of five votes from NE getting Trump to 263. Todd concludes that Clinton needs MI or NC to hold on. He also points out that a 269-269 tie is in play.

    9:40 pm

    Clinton projected winner in NM (5; 109) by Fox News; Trump projected winner in LA by Fox News and NY Times.
    MSNBC posts a photo of Trump and Pence watching the returns in Trump Tower.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says Mike Pence jumped on the horse when it didn’t look good, but if Trump wins, he will look like a smart politician.
    Gayle King on CBS admits that now she understands why Trump went to MI, when a few days ago she couldn’t understand it. Scott Pelley on CBS says the DOW futures are down 400 points.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC looks at VA and finds Trump still leading but with the caution that northern VA still has a lot of votes to count. Karl concedes that VA is a lot closer than he thought it would be.

    9:41 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CT by CBS.
    Clinton projected winner in CT by CNN; Trump projected winner in LA by CNN. CNN’s total stands at Trump 136, and Clinton 104 electoral votes.
    ABC interviews Donna Brazile, interim DNC chair, and she says she is still confident. Democrats will overcome and have a good night. She believes there a votes in many strong Democrat areas. She says she spoke to the campaign and the lines they saw in battleground states NC, MI and PA and once the votes are counted the Democrats will overcome. Brazile hopes it is not another 2000 election with a recount. Brazile denied giving Clinton debate questions.
    CBS’s Nancy Cordes reports from the Clinton headquarters, and says she asked a Clinton campaign official what he thinks of FL. He said it would be close, but not all votes in Broward County have yet reported. Furthermore, their electoral strategy does not depend on FL. NV, CO, MI, PA and VA is their path. Regarding VA, he said Fairfax County still has half its votes to count, and he is very confident Clinton wins VA. Cordes says the Clinton team is so confident, that the writers of their victory speech have completed their final edits and have left the room. They had a concession and victory speech prepared yesterday, but now they have only worked on the victory speech, and indication that she is going to win.
    MSNBC reports global markets are tanking as the world watches the returns come in.
    CNN’s John King reports on his communication with a Republican insider who is no fan of Trump who believes now that Trump has what is needed to win FL.

    9:42 pm

    MSNBC financial commentator says a key Clinton campaign donor told him in the morning that Clinton would win in a landslide.

    9:43 pm

    During a commercial break, NBC runs an ad featuring a service for people to call a hotline if they believe they have a loved-one who is suicidal.

    9:44 pm

    Trump projected winner in LA by CBS.
    CNN projects Republicans to hold control of the US House.
    NBC surveys the battleground states again: Trump leads FL by 139,944 votes with 95% reported; Trump leads MI by 49,944 votes with 20% reported; Trump leads OH by 352,667 votes with 61% reported; Trump leads NC by 83,860 votes with 77% reported; Trump leads GA by 365,170 votes with 45% reported; Trump leads in NH by 1,384 votes with 30% reported; Clinton leads PA by 27,831 votes with 24% reported. Notice NBC has yet to acknowledge that WI exists.
    Fox News data analyst Bill Hemmer looks at OH where Trump leads 52.9% to 42.7%. However, he finds Trump is over-performing in the industrial counties where Obama won, while under-performing in suburbs around Columbus. However, Clinton is underperforming among millennial voters in Athens County, home of Ohio University. In Summary, Hemmer believes OH looks like a decent state for Trump.
    ABC finds VA now a virtual tie as Clinton has caught up. Jonathan Karl again says the fact VA is close is a sign the election overall is close, given Trump had given up on VA.

    9:45 pm

    Chuck Todd on NBC says he thinks this looks good for Trump in FL. He says the Broward vote keeps coming in and she is not narrowing the gap.
    CBS’s Major Garrett reports from Trump campaign headquarters. He says that earlier there was despondency at Trump tower over exit polling data. That mood has turned into cautious optimism, as they believe they are over-performing the exit polling. Garrett says the Trump team feels good about their prospects in FL. He goes on to say FL is an absolute must for Trump—there is no path without FL. Garrett says the Trump would like to see better data out of NC, and are encouraged by MI and PA. He warns that Trump has yet had a breakout win of any state where they can achieve a clear path to 270.

    9:46 pm

    Chuck Todd says you would rather be Trump than Clinton in NC. He expects VA will go to Clinton. Todd says this might come down to MI. In PA Todd says he would rather be Clinton than Trump.
    CNN updates the key states: FL has 95% reported and Trump leads by 111,758 votes, 49% to 47.8%; OH has 61% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 352,667 votes, 52.9% to 42.7%; VA has 80% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 10,123 votes, 47.6% to 47.3%; GA has 45% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 365,170 votes, 58.1% to 39.2%; NC has 78% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 85,311 votes, 49.9% to 47.5%; MI has 20% reported and Trump leads by 41,549 votes, 49.5% to 45.4%; NH has 30% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 1,823 votes, 47.8% to 47%; WI has 21% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 43,407 votes, 50.8% to 44.1%; CO has 51% of the vote reported and Clinton leads by 88,611 votes, 49.4% to 43.2%; PA has 25% reported and Clinton leads by 276,485 votes, 57.6% to 39.2%. Trump still leads the electoral vote count 136 to 104.

    9:47 pm

    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at NC to see if there is a path for Clinton to recover and win the state. He finds Clinton areas with a lot more votes to come, but warns there are still uncounted Trump areas.
    Michael Moore is interviewed on NBC, and he takes a victory lap for predicting a close race in MI, due to the abused working class. But he thinks Trump voters will regret their decision. Moore says he kept saying special attention needed to be given to MI and PA, but it didn’t happen. He says Trump doesn’t know what he is doing.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News says that we don’t know the outcome but clearly prognosticators have gotten this election wrong.
    ABC looks at battleground states and finds Trump still leading in FL, 49% to 48%, Trump leads NC 50% to 47%, Trump leads VA 48% to 47%, Trump leads in NH 48% to 47% and in MI Trump leads 50% to 45%. Jonathan Karl says that if Trump holds the lead in three of those states he is elected president.

    9:48 pm

    ABC’s panel of analysts now discussing the possibility that Trump would win the electoral college while Clinton wins the popular vote.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says Clinton is exceeding her targets in Philadelphia, and it looks like Democrats will sweep PA, and so the firewall is holding through machine politics (in Philadelphia) and the suburban advantage she has among women. Matthews’ comments bring encouragement to the MSNBC hosts, until Kasie Hunt reminds them that if Trump wins FL, he has a path to win even without PA.
    John King on CNN attempts to answer the question, “Does Trump have a path?” And the answer is yes, although now it looks like in VA, Fairfax County will still have more votes for Clinton.
    Joe Trippi on Fox News the polling industry has taken a whack for two or three cycles, and tonight won’t help.
    Megyn Kelly says if Trump wins tonight, the pollster’s predictions weren’t worth the paper they were printed on. Chris Stirewalt quickly counters that so far nothing unusual has been called.

    9:49 pm

    John Dickerson on CBS says Fairfax County in VA is key to the outcome. He says Clinton is down 10,000 vote statewide, but the remaining vote in Fairfax may close that gap. Dickerson points out that in 2012 both PA and MI were projected for Obama at this time, and NC was by 10:00.
    Cokie Roberts on ABC affirms that the election so far is very different from what they expected earlier in the evening.

    9:50 pm

    Charlie Gibson on ABC dismayed by the polarity of all the groups of voters. Going forward is very frightening no matter who wins, Gibson says.
    Ben Domenech, interviewed by CBS’s Charlie Rose, says the lack of economic comeback among rural rust belt voters is showing up in the voting tonight. Jamelle Bouie counters that Trump began his campaign by attacking racial minorities. So it is significant that Trump has closed the gap in light of his racial animus. Mark Leibovich says Trump ran a very negative campaign for a Republican. He says pessimism has helped Trump tonight.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News says no one expected this election to be this close three hours ago.
    Cokie Roberts on ABC says exit polling showed only 2% said both candidates were honest and trustworthy.

    9:51 pm

    John King on CNN shows there are now multiple paths for Trump to win assuming he holds the leads he has in FL, OH, and NC. He looked again at NC and affirmed that it’s not over yet, but if you are Donald Trump, you are getting increasingly confident. King believes we need to wait for more votes to know what will happen in FL.
    NBC shows picture of Trump watching the election returns.
    Katy Tur at Trump headquarters reports for NBC and she finds a confident Trump campaign; they are watching FL and sources are saying it is a nail-biter but they will win it. Then their focus will be on MI and if they win it, they will be very confident. The source says Trump’s jobs message in MI cuts across demographics and will be enough to win.
    For the first time on the Fox News coverage, Karl Rove switches the question to what path does Clinton need to win.

    9:52 pm

    Chris Wallace on Fox News raises the possibility that Trump would win the Electoral Vote while Clinton wins the popular vote.
    Tom Llamas on ABC recounts how he spoke a Trump supporter in MI who told Llamas that as an auto manufacturer all of the union bosses will vote for Clinton, but the workers are all voting for Trump.

    9:53 pm

    John King at CNN shows Trump doing better in some key counties in MI than Romney, is interrupted by and excited Wolf Blitzer with the news that Clinton has now taken the lead in VA, by 1,600 votes with 81% of the vote counted. King says this is a huge sigh of relief for the Clinton campaign in this one state.
    Andrea Mitchell reporting for NBC from the Clinton headquarters says they are nervous. But cheers go up the moment CNN shows Clinton has taken the lead in VA. Mitchell says it was the first cheer she has heard since RI was called. She says there will be a lot of thinking about what went wrong if the election does go against them.
    Fox News show an image from a tweet from Trump’s daughter where they are all gathered watching the returns.

    9:54 pm

    MSNBC moves ME from Too Early to Call to Too Close to Call.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC reports Clinton has taken the lead in VA, with more Democrat vote to come. Good news for Clinton, but he warns that they were only bailed out by Northern VA, and this was a state that was supposed to be called earlier in the night.

    9:55 pm

    NC moved from Edge Clinton to Tossup by CBS. Charlie Rose says he doesn’t know what is happening there. John Dickerson, says the African-American vote may be down a little.
    CNN looks at NH and it still has many votes to count and it is very close.

    9:56 pm

    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and data analyst John King take their first detailed look into WI, a state Blitzer says “was not supposed to be in play,” and they find Trump ahead by 44,000 votes with 27% of the vote reported. King surmises that Trump’s people might be thinking their late play for the state might have paid off.

    9:57 pm

    Clinton projected winner in VA (13; 122) by Fox News. Brit Hume says that Trump had not made a strong play for VA, so this does not come as a surprise.
    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC says, “I feel like I was wrong. This is really a tight race and the Clinton campaign projected a lot more confidence than has been reflected in the way the thing has gone down so far.” She goes on to affirm that Trump had more support than the polls detected.

    9:58 pm

    James Carville on MSNBC feels much better now about VA, and is encouraged about PA based on what Chris Matthews said.
    CNN’s John King says the rural areas for Trump making up some ground against the urban areas.

    9:59 pm

    CNN’s John King observes that CO seems to be filling in the way Democrats had hoped, but they no doubt have much angst over the rust belt states.
    Steve Schmidt on MSNBC says regarding his projection of 320 to 340 electoral votes for Clinton, “I am clearly wrong on that” affirming it will be a long night, and it is very close. “The presidency is up for grabs” Schmidt says. James Carville says he desperately wants to be wrong, but rural vote in MI worries him. Schmidt says, “Yeah for sure there is a chance she is the next president, but it’s a lot closer than anybody expected certainly in all our line of work.” Brian Williams agrees with Schmidt that the presidency is up for grabs.

  456. DW says:

    10:00-11:00: Hour of Consternation

    Although most networks called Clinton the winner in CO, NM and VA during this hour, these results did not give any relief from the consternation over the numbers from NC, FL, MI, and WI. PA would only become a concern later when Trump closed the gap. The top of the hour got off to a good start for Clinton as she took the lead in VA. The momentum gained from VA was very short lived–by 10:30 the networks called OH for Trump and by the end of the hour, most were in full-blown panic.

    10:00 pm

    Trump projected winner in MT (3; 150) by all networks.
    NV, UT, IA too close to call by all networks; but Fox News indicated Trump was ahead in UT.
    Scott Pelley opens CBS’s coverage at this hour with the observation that there is not yet a winner in any of the battleground states. Pelley asks Anthony Salvanto why it is NC was moved from Edge Clinton to Tossup. Salvanto points to the rural areas where Trump is over-performing. Clinton is a little off in Raleigh-Durham. Salvanto looks at FL as Pelley again asserts that Trump has to win it. Salvanto corrects him that Trump may not have to win FL. He says we will have to wait and see what the final tally will be in southeast FL to determine the winner.

    10:01 pm

    CNN surveys the key states to see where they stand at the 10:00 hour. CNN updates the key states: FL has 95% reported and Trump leads by 105,348 votes, 49% to 47.9%; OH has 67% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 394,809 votes, 53% to 42.6%; VA has 83% of the vote reported and Clinton leads by 15,456 votes, 47.7% to 47.2%; GA has 45% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 365,687 votes, 58.1% to 39.2%; NC has 81% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 114,588 votes, 50.2% to 47.2%; MI has 24% reported and Trump leads by 49,596 votes, 49.5% to 45.3%; NH has 41% of the vote counted and Trump leads by 5,297 votes, 48.3% to 46.5%; WI has 28% of the vote reported and Trump leads by 50,733 votes, 50.4% to 44.5%; CO has 53% of the vote reported and Clinton leads by 73,030 votes, 48.8% to 43.8%; PA has 34% reported and Clinton leads by 250,663 votes, 54.6% to 42.2%. Trump still leads the electoral vote count 139 to 104.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC pushes the idea of the historic nature of the race UT, should Evan McMullin win there tonight. She also reminds the panel of two possible faithless electors for Clinton in WA.
    NBC reports from King of Prussia, PA where the reporter in a bar has one table of Trump supporters next to a table of Clinton supporters. A female Trump supporter is excited at the direction the election is going. The reporter then shifts to the Clinton supporter table, to ask them about their support for her in the Philadelphia suburbs. The first supporter says she is actually from Illinois, and so the reporter shifts to the next person at the table who says she is actually from another country and so she couldn’t vote. The man at the table says he is a little bit nervous, and that it will come down to FL.

    10:02 pm

    Cecilia Vega on ABC says encouraging signs are there in NV for Clinton as she talks up the great ground game they saw in, and elsewhere. Jonathan Karl sounds resigned to Clinton’s defeat in FL. 98% of the vote reported in Broward County and yet Trump’s lead has not narrowed. The state is trending toward Trump winning it. Tom Llamas says the mood is reportedly energetic and upbeat in Trump war-room.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS looks at battleground states including FL where Trump leads 49% to 47% (4,565,662 to 4,431,485) with 95% reported; Trump leads OH 52% to 42% (2,085,024 to 1,674,986) with 70% reported; Trump leads NC 50% to 47% (1,927,385 to 1,807,035) with 82% reported; while in VA Clinton has taken the lead, 1,584,037 to 1,568,581 with 83% reported. The state of PA is tied 48% each with 34% reported; in GA Trump leads 50% to 46% and has the Edge there with 46% reported; and with 41% reported, each candidate has 47% in NH. Meanwhile in MI Trump leads 48% to 46% with 24% reported, and in WI each candidate has 47% with 29% reported. The state of CO has Clinton ahead 50% to 44% with 57% reported.

    10:03 pm

    Clinton projected winner in NM by NBC.
    ABC’s Amy Robach at Trump headquarters said the mood is ‘fireworks’ there. Robach refers to tweets showing their mood to celebrate. She describes the past hour as a dramatic shift in mood.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at the counties in MI and sees Trump winning big by 20 points in Macomb county, where white Democrats are located, a county where Obama won. He sees it as a major shift. Wayne county (Detroit area) still has votes remaining.
    NBC’s Hallie Jackson looks at MI exit polling and sees that Trump is getting white with no college degree 61/31 whereas in 2012 Romney got them only 55/44. She goes on to day that the Trump campaign says they are not getting crushed by the Hispanic vote and that is good news for them.

    10:04 pm

    CNN reports DOW futures down more than 500 points on the uncertainty surrounding the election.
    ABC’s Robin Roberts at the Javits Center says the mood there is the reverse from Trump’s headquarters. Earlier they were playing music and it was upbeat, but when Trump stayed close, the hall became quiet and the campaign started showing results from various networks. They are trying to stay optimistic but the mood has seen a drastic change.
    Clinton projected winner in NM by ABC.
    CBS’s John Dickerson looks at FL and sees the large turnout on both sides, and that is why it is close.

    10:05 pm

    Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, in interview by Fox News, says the campaign is feeling optimistic and encouraged by the returns. Conway says the white working class voter has been forgotten, but Trump has energized them, and given them a voice. She feels Trump has rescued the GOP from being the party of the elite. Bret Baier asks Conway which blue-wall state they are going to win. Conway believes it could be PA, MI, NH, or CO or NV.
    ABC reports Clinton has taken the lead in VA. Jonathan Karl says it will all come down to MI.
    Scott Pelley on CBS mentions the lead Trump has in the Electoral College count, 140 to 104, but appeals to the forthcoming results from CA where the polls have not closed.
    Gayle King on CBS concedes that clearly Trump’s message is resonating.

    10:06 pm

    Trump projected winner in MO by NBC and ABC.
    George Stephanopoulos on ABC asks Democrat strategist Stephanie Cutter if there is nervousness in the Democratic camps, and she is silent with no response until the other panelists erupt with laughter. Cutter admits she is nervous. Believes FL leaning Trump, the night is going to be later than anyone thought, but thinks Clinton will still win, though it is going to be closer than we thought. She says MI was going to be closer.
    Mike Murphy says he was wrong, thinking the election night would be over early. But the rural vote in FL is off the charts for Trump.
    Elaine Quijano on CBS breaks the news that Trump has just tweeted at 9:45 “Watching the returns at 9:45pm.” In the photo Trump’s family and Mike Pence are shown watching the screens. Audible gasps heard among the CBS hosts when Quijano says third party candidates Stein and Johnson combined for over 265,000 votes, larger than the gap between Trump and Clinton.

    10:07 pm

    Jake Tapper on CNN says it is possible there is a wave out there for Trump that the pollsters and prognosticators did not see coming at all. Dana Bash on CNN says the modeling 2% margin of error missed it.
    Rachel Maddow asks Steve Karnacki on MSNBC if he sees evidence that the polls were radically off. He replies maybe not radically off, but it was an accumulation of polling that seemed to suggest Clinton doing better than what is happening due to rural white voters.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says about FL, “there is just not enough (left for Clinton to come back).” He appeals to some unknown error as her only hope in FL. But Todd says the last Democrat to win the White House without FL was Bill Clinton. He thinks Clinton will win PA, but it will come down to MI.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS is alarmed that these battlegrounds are still up in the air. CO, he says, is still a tossup even though the Clinton campaign told him they had it in the bag, same for PA where Schieffer says no one expected Clinton to lose—her safest battleground state. Then he points to MI where he felt everyone expected it to lean Clinton.
    Martha Raddatz on ABC points to the deep divide in America especially between college educated and those not educated.

    10:08 pm

    John King on CNN looks at NC and says it is still possible for Clinton to come back depending on votes still out there in urban areas.
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl looks at a few rural counties in MI and sees Trump winning counties Obama won.
    CBS’s exit polling analyst Anthony Mason looks at a couple of trouble spots for Clinton in the state of VA. First is white women with college degrees, where Clinton expected to do very well, yet she leads only 47% to 46%. Second is young voters where she is winning 51% to 38%, but Obama got over 60% last time. Third, 61% of Virginians say Trump is not honest and trustworthy, but 59% say the same about Clinton.
    Steve Hayes on Fox News says exit polling showed 40% of voters felt change was the most important issue and Trump won this group 82% to 13%.

    10:09 pm

    Trump projected winner in MO by CBS. The CBS panel agrees this result in MO was expected.
    Fox News projects Burr winner over Ross in NC senate race. Bret Baier says that now it is more likely Republicans will hold on to senate control.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC News finds Trump expanding his lead in NC with 83% reported. Matthew Dowd again mentions the national vote versus Electoral Vote.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC observes that the south isn’t all in the south. Matthews tries to prop up hope for Clinton by saying that the called states are all states we knew already, and that the uncalled states are not telling us anything yet—we are where we were months ago. He also says we don’t know yet who will run the senate.
    NBC looks at MI and finds Trump still leading there 56,596 votes.

    10:10 pm

    John King on CNN examines data from MI and finds Trump running up big margins in the rural counties which is what he needs to offset the Clinton advantage in Detroit. King says Clinton team must be very tense.
    ABC’s Tom Llamas reports that Trump campaign chair Kellyanne Conway recently invited Trump to the war-room to watch returns, and characterizes their mood as energized and optimistic.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says “I hope there is clarity, I hope there is a concession speech by the loser. I hope the American people go to bed and say at least we have an electoral system that works that is clean is trustable is not rigged and in the end we had an exciting race which surprising…as disturbing as it was at least we had a conclusion.”
    Tom Brokaw on NBC says the media establishment has missed the depth of the anger among voters who are demanding change. Chuck Todd agrees we have forgotten rural America. Savannah Guthrie says they have been hiding in plain sight. Trump easily found them.
    Juan Williams on Fox News thinks senate control is now a coin flip.

    10:11 pm

    ABC’s Byron Pitts says, “Fear is winning over love” in the election results. David Muir looks at exit polling showing how rural America is saying we are on the wrong track.
    NBC interviews Glenn Beck who says it is tighter than he imagined. He agrees with Todd that we have not listened to the heartland and not listened to each other. As a country we don’t listen and we don’t trust one another. The media speaks down to people and does not listen to them, declaring who they are. He ends with an appeal that we need to listen to one another.
    John Dickerson on CBS says the Clinton team expected IA to be lost due to the older population and a big white, blue-collar population.
    Terry Moran on ABC says that when the rural voter left behind by globalization “gets the chance to punch the elite in the face, they have.”

    10:12 pm

    John King on CNN examines data in WI and he finds Clinton in trouble in Janesville, Winnebago County, but still many votes to be counted in Dane County. While King was looking at Milwaukee, the percentage reporting jumped from below 50% to 82%, and it put a dent on Trump’s statewide lead, but he still leads.
    Chris Stirewalt expects Trump to do well in NH as he is a good fit for his strategy.

    10:13 pm

    MSNBC projects Burr winner over Ross in NC senate race. Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at FL and sees Trump’s lead is steady, and he affirms that frankly she is running out of places to get more votes. Clinton exceeded expectations in south-east FL democratic counties but it has not mattered, the rural counties for Trump made the difference.
    Cecilia Vega on ABC points out that normally when the Democrats are experiencing good news they are screaming it from the rooftops to the media, but tonight they have gone silent. Vega now admits that FL was not part of Clinton’s strategy.

    10:14 pm

    OH moved from Tossup to Likely Trump by CBS. Anthony Salvanto shows OH trending to Trump due to the counties around Cleveland where Democrats often do well, but Clinton is not. Looking at the rest of the upper Midwest, the “blue-wall,” Salvanto points out that none of them have been called yet.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC looks quickly at FL and finds Trump with still a significant lead. Karl then looks at scenarios to get to 270, given the 12 battleground states. He gives to Clinton VA, PA, and WI—states they thought all along she would win, and this gets her to 243. But then Karl gives FL, NC, OH and AZ to Trump, which gets him to 254. All it would take is MI.
    David Muir on ABC points out that the message of Bernie Sanders seems to resonate with his supporters in a way that they are now voting for Trump even though Sanders asked them to vote for Clinton. Jonathan Karl points out that the 538 blog had Clinton at 99% chance to win the MI primary and she lost to Bernie Sanders.

    10:15 pm

    Clinton projected winner in NM by CNN; Trump projected winner in MO by CNN. 149 to 109 is Trump’s electoral vote lead.
    Nate Silver on ABC says Clinton has a 60% chance of winning election, though Silver admits betting markets now show Trump with a slight edge to win election. Silver says no battleground states have been called yet, but Clinton is in profound trouble in the Electoral College. Her downfall could be the Midwest.
    Brit Hume on Fox News says the betting odds are now Trump with a 74% chance of winning the election.

    10:16 pm

    Jan Crawford reports for CBS from NC and says the state typically goes Republican in presidential races, but this was a closely fought battleground. Crawford says there has been troubling signs there among African-American voters who have not turned out for Clinton as hoped. Local anecdotes confirmed that phone calls to African-Americans asked them why they have not voted. They simply declined to participate. Trump’s supporters turned out however.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News says if you are a Democrat at a watch party you are horrified right now.

    10:17 pm

    John King at CNN shows the many paths now for Donald Trump, and indicates that just a couple of weeks ago this was “not a reality based conversation.”
    NBC shows a tweeted picture of Clinton hugging a girl and thanking everyone regardless what happens tonight.
    CBS’s Jericka Duncan reporting from Philadelphia, PA where they were worried about voter fraud and intimidation, but nothing has been reported. Duncan says PA is primarily democratic, and the voters waiting in line in Philadelphia say they definitely feel Clinton has the state ‘on lock.’

    10:18 pm

    Kristen Welker at Clinton headquarters says top campaign officials told her they are not panicking, that there still is a path for her to win, even if they don’t win FL and OH. The path is now MI, CO, VA, and PA. Welker spoke to supporters who now admit they are nervous. They expected a victory celebration but now they know it is a very close race. The initial mood was cheers, now it is quieter, moments of cheering are fewer and far between.
    10:19 pm

    FL moved from Tossup to Edge Trump by CBS. John Dickerson explains that the rural areas in FL have overcome Clinton’s urban gains.
    John King at CNN reveals that in FL, almost all the votes are now reported in the three large Democrat counties of Miami-Dade (99%), Broward (98%), and Palm Beach (97%); and yet Trump still leads by about 135,000 votes in FL. King then clicked on some of the other blue FL counties and they were all at 100%. Wolf Blitzer interrupted to say, “Let’s take a look at WI.”
    Jonathan Karl on ABC again looks at the projected paths to 270. He gives Clinton VA, CO, WI and PA getting her to 252. He then gives Trump states where he leads AZ, IA, OH, NC and FL, getting him to 260. One path to 270 is NV and NH, assuming he also gets the 2nd congressional district in ME. The other scenario is simply the state of MI. Karl describes both of these paths as difficult for Trump.

    10:20 pm

    Clinton projected winner in NM by CBS.
    Juan Williams on Fox News observes that had the Republican Party not nominated Trump, the election would be a Republican rout against Hillary Clinton.
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl (wrongly) says Trump has not led in any poll of MI. The Trafalgar Group actually had a late poll showing Trump ahead.

    10:21 pm

    Trump projected winner in OH (18; 168) by NBC. Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says Trump’s campaign felt OH and IA were the two they felt the strongest chance to go to them.
    CNN’s John King says Clinton better increase her share in Wayne County Michigan if she wants any chance to win the state. King goes on to say that Democrats in MI have been calling the Clinton campaign for months, saying, do not take this state for granted.
    Chuck Todd reacts to the OH news by saying it is not looking good for Clinton in FL and NC. Todd says it will all come down to MI. Todd says PA is expected to go to Clinton and the remaining votes in Wayne county may be key, however Trump is ‘killing it’ in Macomb County MI.

    10:22 pm

    Chris Matthews says Trump winning OH “does put him at the edge of possibly winning the election.” He then suggests Trump will lose PA though he won OH.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News says voters didn’t care about Trump’s temperament, but they want someone who can get things done. Brit Hume says betting odds are now 80% for Trump.
    Matthew Dowd on ABC says the polling missed Trump’s supporters.

    10:23 pm

    Chuck Todd doesn’t call it a silent Trump vote, as much as just all rural voters turning out. Tom Brokaw points out that Trump just won OH even though Portman ran away from him and Kasich battled against him.

    10:24 pm

    Trump projected winner in OH by ABC. This was an interesting call by ABC, as they mentioned it as an aside before going to a commercial break.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC suggests that senate control still too early to know.

    10:25 pm

    Trump projected winner in OH by Fox News; Clinton projected winner in CO (9; 131) by Fox News.
    CBS projects McCain winner over Kirkpatrick in AZ senate race.

    10:26 pm

    Brit Hume on Fox News reports the 538 blog has updated to Trump with a 55% chance of winning the election. Chris Wallace points out that OH has gone with the winner the last 13 elections in a row.
    Trump projected winner in OH by CNN. Jack Tapper seems surprised on how early OH was called. Wolf Blitzer says there are a lot of stunned Democrats out there. Dana Bash reminds how important OH is to winning the white house, and she brought up John Kasich, OH governor did not support Trump.
    Clinton projected winner in VA by NBC.
    MSNBC hosts discuss the ten-point win by Comstock in the one contested “bell-weather” US house race in VA. Expectations were that this was a tossup. Chris Matthews tried to appeal to a Washington Post endorsement to explain Comstock’s win, but the other analysts all belittle the effect of such an endorsement.

    10:27 pm

    Jake Tapper on CNN says Clinton’s numbers are poor in Philadelphia.
    Carl Cameron reporting for Fox News at Trump headquarters says there was a big reaction to Trump’s win of OH. He says if Trump can win all the Romney states and flips MI, he wins.

    10:28 pm

    Brian Williams on MSNBC says “No one counted the yard signs” as explanation for why Trump has out-performed tonight.

    10:29 pm

    Clinton projected winner in VA by CBS.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC goes through the states to answer the question, can Trump win? He gives Clinton PA, but Trump gets GA, NC, FL, IA, NH, and AZ and he is at 268. Karnacki now speaks of ‘paths’ (in the plural) for Trump to win.

    10:30 pm

    Trump projected winner in MO by NY Times. <<< 2:35:57 point
    CNN provided another update on all the key states. Trump ahead in FL by 135,650 votes, 49.2% to 47.7%, with 95% reporting; Trump leading in NC by 143,944 votes, 50.4% to 46.9%, with 84% counted; Clinton ahead in IA by 54,444 votes, 57.2% to 37.8%, with 19% counted; Clinton ahead in VA by 55,385 votes, 48.2% to 46.7%, with 87% returned; Trump leading in GA by 347,099 votes, 56.8% to 40.5%, with 49% reporting; Clinton ahead in CO by 92,160 votes, 48.8% to 43.7%, with 65% of the vote counted; Trump with a 35,242 vote lead, 48.6% to 46.4%, in MI with 32% reported; Trump ahead by 10,094 votes, 48.7% to 45.8%, in NH with 47% reported; Trump ahead by 28,152 votes, 48.5% to 46.3%, in WI with 42% reported; Clinton ahead in PA by 167,353 votes, 51% to 45.6%, with 51% counted; Trump ahead 33,483 votes, 48.9% to 46.4% in AZ with 52% counted. 167 to 109 is Trump’s electoral vote lead.
    Fox News projects Republicans to hold control of the US House.
    Chuck Todd on NBC asks the NBC News pollsters about the outcome thus far. They see a late push from the late deciders to Trump as well as a large gap favoring Trump among white voters. Also Trump won 2-1 among those who didn’t like either candidate.
    CBS updates their electoral college count, finding Trump with 150 and Clinton 122 after their projection of VA going to Clinton.
    Jennifer Griffin reporting for Fox News at Clinton headquarters says what is notable there has been a subdued crowd. They are no longer watching news reporting and only recently learned that Clinton had won VA. Currently they are watching speeches, with Gov. Andrew Cuomo at the podium. Otherwise they are watching videos and Hollywood celebrities.
    David Muir on ABC finds that in OH exit polling, 53% of voters were women and 47% of voters were men. 54% of men voted for Trump, while 39% voted for Clinton. However, 42% of women voted for Trump while 53% of women voted Clinton. 55% of OH voters did not have a college education, while 45% did.

    10:31 pm

    Trump projected winner in OH by CBS. The new Electoral vote total at CBS is Trump 168, Clinton 122. John Dickerson describes the Trump win in OH as a state falling into a traditional pattern. He sort of expected OH to go to Trump due to the voter demographics.
    Fox news reports the mood more subdued among supporters at the Clinton Campaign.
    CNN’s John King looks again at WI and finds Trump continuing to lead and there is a danger sign for Clinton in that Milwaukee is over 80% returned, and he flips the map between 2012 and 2016 showing the counties flipping from blue to red across the southwest and western parts of the state. [Other networks failed to show this important point of data. This simple visual illustrated clearly what was going on across the rust belt states]. King goes on to say that the criticism of Clinton will be that she ignored her friends in the states of WI and MI.
    James Carville on MSNBC says if Clinton loses MI then it is over. He says he hopes Chris Matthews is right about PA (that Clinton wins there). He says NC “looks less than encouraging.” Steve Schmidt agrees that it comes down to MI to decide who is president. Schmidt says it is very ominous in FL for Clinton due to the surge of rural Republican vote.

    10:32 pm

    Clinton projected winner in VA by ABC. Jonathan Karl affirms that VA was a lot closer than anyone thought.

    10:33 pm

    James Carville says FL is difficult. He doesn’t see many votes in Broward. He would love to be wrong, but doesn’t see a path in FL. He says the speed in which OH was called troubled him. He thought going into the night it was Trump that had the narrow path, but now it is Clinton with the narrow path. MI is critical to Clinton. Steve Schmidt concurs and says it is a tossup election right now.
    Andrea Mitchell at the Clinton headquarters says there was a big cheer that went up there when Clinton was declared winner in VA. They still think it is possible to win MI. They still believe they have a path. Mitchell blames the Comey announcement for Clinton’s struggles tonight.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS says this election is going right down to the wire, and Clinton can still win if she wins PA. Norah O’Donnell on CBS cites a top Clinton official who had earlier boasted they would win FL, now saying this same official saying Clinton can still win the election without FL. Now the Clinton campaign is looking at PA, NH, and NV.
    George Will on Fox News says he is surprised by the results, but one of the most powerful predictors has been job approval of the incumbent president not running. If the sitting president is over 50% the incumbent party wins. Obama is in the mid 50s, so Hillary was expected to win. But this poll is not working for Clinton.

    10:34 pm

    ABC’s Jonathan Karl finds MI still tight. He finds the rural counties in MI that Obama won four years ago, Trump is winning tonight and winning big. Cecilia Vega on ABC mentions the Clinton campaign took MI seriously only the last few weeks. The Clinton team thought they had the election in the bag after the primaries because they got Trump as the GOP nominee.
    CBS’s Anthony Salvanto looks at what went wrong for Clinton in OH. The suburb counties came in big for Trump. He also looks at FL, and confirms that Trump is doing exceptionally well in rural counties.
    CNN’s John King looks again at MI and sees that more votes have been reported in Wayne County (Detroit), and the race has tightened. However, he says Trump is doing what he has to do in rural counties, especially compared to 2012.

    10:35 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CO by NBC.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says the suburbs of Philadelphia would go strongly for Clinton. Compares Trump’s strategy to General Lee’s search for a path in the Civil War.
    Charlie Gibson on ABC talks about why voters voted against Clinton or Trump.

    10:36 pm

    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at the race to 270 scenarios and tentatively gives AZ to Trump, and says his pollster in the NBC data center thinks Clinton will hold PA, so he awards PA to Clinton. Todd also had WI colored blue from the start of his scenario without a whisper about it possibly being in play. Todd concludes that MI would put Trump over the top.
    Charlie Rose on CBS interviews Peggy Noonan who says, “We may be witnessing an epic upset.” She says Trump is performing much better than expected. She says there was a hidden Trump vote, and some were women.

    10:37 pm

    Susannah Guthrie on NBC says it is now “firewall-time” and points out the cheering in Clinton headquarters over the VA and CO projections were for states that the campaign was so confident to win they stopped spending money there.
    Ruth Marcus on CBS tells Charlie Rose that if only men had the right to vote Trump would be winning easily.
    John King on CNN looks at IA and warns that even though Clinton has a lead most of the vote thus far has come from urban areas and many of the more Republican areas are yet to report.
    Matthew Dowd on ABC says that in the end Clinton represented the status-quo, and Trump represented blowing it up, and a lot of voters went for blowing it up.

    10:38 pm

    Guy Benson on Fox News reports on his communication with ‘plugged-in’ democrats over the course of the evening, that they started the night supremely confident, then moved from confident to okay, but queasy, to now borderline panic.
    CNN’s Wolf Blitzer says for the first time to John King, ‘What’s her path to 270?” King replies by giving Trump FL, NC, NH, MI, IA and WI and that put him at 278. Wolf Blitzer interrupts and demands he take IA away from Trump. King does, and it reduces Trump’s number to 272. Then King gives Trump AZ, putting him at 283, and NV to Clinton, putting her at 248.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says the race is not that far off from what polling predicted, and that there has not yet been a shocker state. She says we still don’t know about NC and FL.
    Kasie Hunt on MSNBC says we should have seen this coming due to Trump’s surprise win in the primary. She goes on to say that covering the Clinton campaign the last few weeks, with smallish, staged event after smallish staged event did not feel like a winning campaign.
    Chuck Todd points to the Comey announcement as the turning point, and Republicans finally coming home.
    ABC panelist describes Trump as an experimental medical treatment, and if you are desperate enough for a cure, you are willing to try it.

    10:39 pm

    Bill Kristol on ABC says Clinton’s message was only a disqualification of Trump, and she never said what change she would bring, and it appears she may not have succeeded in disqualifying Trump. Jonathan Karl says the Comey announcement was the ultimate October Surprise.
    CNN’s John King says PA is looking good for Clinton even though CNN has not yet called it for her, but MI and WI are the ‘flashing red alerts.”
    Clinton projected winner in VA by CNN. The updated electoral college tally is 167 for Trump, 122 for Clinton.
    Clinton projected winner in CO by ABC.
    Lester Holt on NBC points to the rising Obamacare premiums as a factor in the results. Nicolle Wallace on NBC says after the Comey announcement Trump became an efficient candidate and it yielded results.
    Guy Benson on Fox News says voters have rendered the verdict that Clinton is a loathed political character, given Trump has disapproval ratings of 60%.

    10:40 pm

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC decries Trump’s vicious anti-media campaign.
    Kasie Hunt and Brian Williams on MSNBC both agree that the Clinton campaign spent the last days of the campaign feeling confident that they were going to win. They were already in a celebratory mood.
    Scott Pelley on CBS points out that Trump has never led in the CBS News poll since he got the Republican nomination. Gayle King replies, “Well if there was a time to get ahead, this is it.”
    CNN again looks at the numbers in battleground states. Trump leads by 73,856 votes, 49.5% to 45.5% in MI with 37% reported. Trump leads by 28,580 votes, 48.4% to 46.4% in WI with 47% reported.

    10:41 pm

    Jake Tapper on CNN reports that DOW futures down more than 600. Tapper goes on to say that most thought this would be an electoral landslide for Clinton. Not only is that not happening, it is entirely possible that Trump is re-drawing the map the way he said he would with the rust-belt. He says that “right now he (Trump) was right.” Dana Bash says that initially MI was considered a fool’s errand. She says Clinton should have had MI banked long ago. As she was speaking, Trump’s lead jumped in WI to almost 37,000 votes.
    ABC’s reporting in CO says there is cheering over the call of CO for Clinton, but there is much relief as Clinton assumed it was locked up.
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl describes Trump’s 2-point lead in WI with 48% reported as ‘shocking.’
    NBC reporter from Grand Rapids, MI says the mood there is one of amazement and surprise.
    CBS’s Anthony Mason looks at the share of Hispanic voters in key western states and finds 16% in AZ, 13% in CO, and 18% in NV were Hispanic. Mason says these numbers are a little lower than four years ago. Clinton is winning them in NV 59% to 27%, whereas in 2012, Obama won NV Hispanics 71% to 24%. For the first time in the evening, CBS news panelists start talking about the narrowing number of pathways to victory for Clinton.
    Brit Hume on Fox News says the New York Times current odds of Trump winning is 91%.
    Tom Llamas on ABC says the Trump war-room is packed with people. Chris Christie is right next to Trump. Llamas says Trump has won OH and expectation is that he will win FL.

    10:42 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CO by CBS. Bob Schieffer says most of the polling suggested Clinton would win CO.
    ABC projects Burr winner over Ross in NC senate race. Bill Kristol thinks that this means the senate will go to a 50-50 split.
    NBC looks at exit poll data from OH and found that the most important issue in the state was the Economy at 54%, followed by Terrorism at 20% and Immigration and Foreign Policy each at 11%. Of those who felt the Economy was most important, 49% favored Trump and 45% favored Clinton. The other factor in OH exit polling was white voters with no college degree. Trump won them 58/37 compared to 56/42 for Romney four years ago.

    10:43 pm

    John Dickerson, in an exchange with Charlie Rose who had asked about scenarios to reach 270, says ‘if Trump wins MI and WI…” and Rose interrupts to correct him as though he meant to say MI and PA, but Dickerson does not acknowledge the correction suggesting he meant to say WI. This indicates that CBS was unprepared to discuss WI as a battleground state as they still have not looked at it on the map.

    10:44 pm

    John King on CNN looks at MI again to see if Clinton can come back. King’s answer is yes, she can. He points to Ingham County and Wayne County where he believes most of the vote returned is from western Wayne County, and not Detroit. King suggests MI and WI could turn out to be like VA where Trump led all night and Clinton came back to win.

    10:45 pm

    Trump projected winner in OH by NY Times. Trump projected winner in NC (15; 183) by Fox News. Clinton projected winner in NM by NY Times.
    NBC’s Kristen Welker reports from Clinton headquarters and says the Clinton campaign is projecting confidence in this nail-biter of a race. A top Clinton official says they still have a path to 270 and they are on that path. That path includes holding WI and MI. Then they would have to hold PA and win either NH or NV. Welker goes on to say that the Clinton campaign says Madison, WI is still to report results. She also says they are looking at Detroit with still a lot of votes to come. Welker does admit there are jitters among top Clinton supporters. This is the first mention of WI by NBC since the 9:00 closing, and it was from the Clinton headquarters reporter, not the NBC election night news room.

    10:46 pm

    ABC reporter at a Democrat election party in MI says the mood has changed, as they are telling their supporters to keep their fingers crossed. The question is whether or not Detroit can make up for the rural vote in MI.
    CNN’s John King looks at FL and says Republicans who do not like Trump say he is going to win it.

    10:47 pm

    CNN’s John King checks NC and finds that 90% of the vote is now in, and Trump’s lead is still 4 percentage points. He says Clinton has a lot of math to make up. He says with FL, NC and OH likely going to Trump, it all comes down to MI and WI.
    MSNBC reports from Grand Rapids Michigan. A group of Trump supporters there are elated that Trump is in play in MI.
    After Kristen Welker’s report from the Javits Center, Chuck Todd goes to the computer to look at the Clinton path and completely ignores WI, saying it is all one state, MI. Lester Holt interrupts to say that Welker also mentioned WI, but again Todd brushes it off and goes to MI.
    CBS returns from a commercial pointing out that the DOW futures are down 632.5 points.

    10:48 pm

    Fox News suggests at this point the focus is on what Clinton’s path to 270 might be instead of Trump’s.
    CNN’s John King again says Democrat strategists tell him the percentage of the vote thus far in Wayne County Michigan is from the outer areas of the county and not Detroit.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC again affirms the notion that MI will decide the presidency, but they are also watching the race in PA.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks at FL again and says the vote keeps coming in and she is not closing the gap, and so he concludes that “it is just not there.” Clinton won Hillsborough County by what she needed and she hit her targets in southeast FL, but it just wasn’t enough.
    CBS looks at the popular vote and finds Trump leading 49% to 46%, 38,239,320 to 36,059,120.

    10:49 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CO by CNN, tightening the running electoral vote race to 167 for Trump and 131 for Clinton.
    Susannah Guthrie on NBC reminds the panel that everyone had said Trump didn’t have a ground game. Chuck Todd interrupts, “He didn’t need it.”
    Nancy Cordes reports from the Javits Center and says the Clinton team proposes multiple paths to win the election, but their favorite and most likely path is VA, CO, PA, MI and NV. So far, they won the first two, although they have believed all along that MI is a foregone conclusion. They admit MI is closer now, but they expect to win it. They are looking closely at PA, MI and NV because OH and FL have been taken off the table (although CBS has not yet called FL at this point). Cordes says overall the Clinton team is confident they will win the election after CO and VA were both called for Clinton. The Clinton team is feeling good about their paths, but it is not the cakewalk they had expected. Nothing at all was said about the state of WI.
    CNN’s John King looks at NH and finds the state with 54% of the vote now reported Trump still has a slight lead by about 11,000 votes, 48.8% to 45.8%. Wolf Blitzer asks King if there any encouraging signs for Hillary Clinton in NH. King replies, “I wouldn’t call anything encouraging for Hillary Clinton at the moment to be honest with you my friend.” He does find a path for Clinton to come back in NH.

    10:50 pm

    Fox news projects Johnson winner over Feingold in WI senate race. Karl Rove calls this win huge.
    Steve Karnacki looks at PA to see if Trump can close the 116,000 vote gap. Philadelphia appears to be almost done. He looks at the suburbs and sees them pretty much unchanged from 2012, which does not bode well for Clinton, as expectations were a large shift to Clinton. Trump has life in PA because the rural areas have more votes to come.
    CBS’s Major Garrett at the Trump headquarters says the Trump campaign is feeling much better and see multiple paths to 270. The campaign says they will win FL. Garrett just texted with Paul Manifort, former Trump campaign manager who says Trump is going to win NC. Garrett received another text from former PA Governor Tom Corbett, who believes Trump is going to win PA due to returns in Erie County and other key areas of the state.
    Democrat Mo Elleithee on Fox News is no longer optimistic about Democrat’s chances to regain senate control. He says he is nervous but is not yet freaking out over the presidential race.

    10:51 pm

    ABC’s Jonathan Karl described Trump’s chances in PA as a long shot, and he is losing there only by three points; in IA says Clinton is looking strong there tonight. The ABC panel again expresses shock that Trump leads in WI. George Stephanopoulos says now that it is Trump with multiple paths, and not Clinton.
    Tom Brokaw on NBC again points out the sharp decline in DOW futures, down 750 points, more than after the 9/11 attacks.

    10:52 pm

    CNN’s John King says Clinton is not getting the results she needs thus far in key counties to win NH the way Obama did four years earlier, but there are a lot of areas yet to report.
    ABC interviews Sean Spicer at the Trump tower who says they are all excited. He said this is the race they expected, a few weeks ago they saw a shift in the election, with a perfect storm. He says MI is going to be close, and WI tight. Spicer also feels good about IA.
    Lester Holt on NBC says FL seems to be slipping away for Clinton and the path gets wider for Trump. Holt goes on to say that the polls didn’t really detect a Comey effect. Chuck Todd says we will never know, but perhaps Democrats underestimated the dislike of Clinton.

    10:53 pm

    Mo Elleithee on Fox News says Clinton’s chances still look good if she can hold MI and WI, is nervous, but still thinks the path for Clinton is easier than the path for Trump.
    CNN’s John King shows how Clinton is getting minimally acceptable numbers out of Philadelphia, but overall he believes the Clinton team is reasonably happy with the numbers returned in PA. He stresses that PA is not done yet.
    Charles Krauthammer on Fox News says if Trump wins there is a populist revolution going on.

    10:54 pm

    Tom Brokaw says that even if Clinton wins, this will be a contested election.
    John King on CNN surmises that the Clinton team must be reasonably optimistic with the numbers they see in PA.

    10:56 pm

    John King on CNN concludes that in PA there are more Democrat votes left than Republican votes.

    10:57 pm

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says we have no idea who is going to win the election.

    10:58 pm

    CNN’s John King says Clinton is in trouble in MI and the only way to get out of trouble is for an overwhelming surge coming out of Detroit.
    Chris Matthews believes Clinton will carry PA, but did not get what she wanted out of the Philadelphia suburbs.

    10:59 pm

    Trump projected winner in FL (29; 212) by Fox News.
    CNN’s John King says WI is a tug of war, but Clinton is running out of options as Dane County half in, and Milwaukee is almost done. There are a lot of rural votes yet to be counted in WI.
    Steve Karnacki looks again at MI and sees a lot of votes yet to come out of Detroit, and thinks it still looks promising for Clinton, although, Macomb county is a big reversal tonight in favor of Trump.

  457. DW says:

    11:00-12:00: Hour of Catastrophe

    The media and Clinton supporters sat in stunned disbelief during this hour as they took catastrophe after catastrophe as the battleground states dropped into the Trump column. NC was called for Trump, then FL, UT, IA, and then the Fox News bombshell call of WI. It was over. Everyone knew it. Many knew in previous hours it was over, but now crying supporters were leaving the Javits Center. Some of the traditional broadcast networks were able to avoid being on the air from 11:00-11:30 due to local coverage.

    11:00 pm

    Clinton projected winner in CA (55; 186) and HI (4; 190) by all networks; Trump projected winner in ID (4; 216) by all networks.
    WA too close to call according to CNN, ABC, and CBS, Clinton projected winner in WA (12; 202) by Fox News, NY Times, and NBC.
    Clinton projected winner in OR (7; 209) by NBC; all other networks, no projection.

    11:01 pm

    FL moved from Edge Trump to Likely Trump by CBS. Norah O’Donnell says 99% of the vote is now counted in FL even though the CBS graphic shows only 95% reported.
    Upon Clinton retaking the Electoral College (190 to 171) lead following the projected win in CA, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asks Jake Tapper, “Are they breathing a little bit easier over there at Clinton headquarters?” Tapper replies, “I don’t think so to be completely honest.” Tapper mentions the shift in the question, instead of “does Trump have a path?” now it is “does she have a path to the presidency?”
    MSNBC looks at the too close to call states and finds Trump leading in FL by 134,033 votes with 95% reported; Clinton leading in PA by 72,538 with 6% reported; Trump leading in GA by 347,099 votes with 49% reported; Trump leading in MI by 59,470 with 47% reported; Trump leading in NC by 200,348 votes with 92% reported; Clinton leading in MN by 116,002 votes with 40% reported; Clinton leading in IA by 29,436 votes with 40% reported; Trump leading NH by 10,336 with 59% reported; Clinton leading in ME by 13,169 with 42% reported.
    John Dickerson on CBS says Trump is picking up the states he needs for the straight path to 270, given that he has won OH and is on the cusp of winning FL.

    11:02 pm

    Monica Crowley, Trump advocate on Fox News, sees Trump’s success due to him being the candidate who would bring change. She points back to when Trump started, she said do not underestimate him.
    MSNBC looks at states they say are “Too Early to Call,” Trump leads in AZ by 48,635 with 58% reported; Trump leads in WI by 54,589 votes with 57% reported; Trump leads in UT by 36,939 votes with 10% reported.
    CBS’s Gayle King and Norah O’Donnell have exchange over what when wrong in FL given that the Clinton campaign had told them they had banked enough early voters and had found enough Hispanic voters there to win the state. John Dickerson says the Trump supporters came out in droves.

    11:03 pm

    Fox News reporting that Clinton campaign saying they ‘expect a long night.’
    NC moved from Tossup to Leaning Trump by CBS.
    MSNBC projects Johnson winner over Feingold in WI senate race. MSNBC Analysts moan audibly as Brian Williams makes the call. Williams then reminded viewers that Democrats were confident that Feingold would be going back to the senate, but Chris Matthews downplays the win, saying “Feingold would have been a big surprise—historically would have been the first person to beat the person who beat him.” But then he admitted after Kirk, Johnson was the second easiest to flip, followed by the third easiest, IN. Given these called races, Matthews describes senate control as “up in the air.” He does admit there are not many options left.

    11:04 pm

    Trump projected winner in NC by CBS.
    CNN checks the battleground states and finds Trump still leading MI by 30,451 votes, 48.1% to 46.8% with 48% reported. Trump leads WI by 59,592 votes, 49.1% to 45.7% with 58% reported.
    Mo Elleithee on Fox News says he too was saying early on to take Trump seriously.

    11:05 pm

    Trump projected winner in NC by NBC. As Brian Williams calls NC for Trump on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow says ‘Woah’ and Chris Matthews is heard in the background saying “well that’s a bitch.”
    James Carville on MSNBC says he had already discounted NC as Clinton could not narrowly win VA and then carry NC.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS says that Trump now has a realistic path to victory in light of his victories in FL and NC. Scott Pelley affirms Trump has gone from ‘long shot’ to ‘real shot.’ John Dickerson goes further saying that Trump may now have more paths to 270 than does Clinton.
    CNN’s John King looks at MI again and what she might get out of Wayne County and finds that she can still pull out the state depending on turnout in Detroit.

    11:06 pm

    Trump projected winner in NC by ABC.
    James Carville on MSNBC says the fact that Johnson was called the winner in the WI senate race means the path for Clinton there will be very narrow. He sees a way she can win in MI, but every domino has to fall for her in order to win. Carville’s GOP counterpart says the drama has moved to WI, thinks there may be the votes for Clinton in MI.

    11:07 pm

    Trump projected winner in NC by CNN. Clinton has 190 electoral votes to Trump’s 186.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News thinks the election could end up like the year 2000, and he believes Clinton could still win, but that a populist movement supporting anti-government sentiment was not detected.
    Nancy Cordes reporting for CBS at the Javits Center says that the fact that NC and OH have gone to Trump is a bitter disappointment for the Clinton campaign, given that they have spent tens of millions more dollars in those states than Trump. The Clinton team really thought they had a shot at NC given their huge ground game there and the events they held.

    11:08 pm

    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at the paths to win and if Trump wins AZ, GA, UT and AK he is at 268. He sees rural counties in WI flipping red. There are audible gasps and looks of despondency among the MSNBC hosts. This seems to be the moment MSNBC realizes Trump is going to win the election.
    WI moved from Tossup Trump to Edge Trump by CBS. With 60% reported CBS shows Trump leading 48% to 46%, however, CBS does not show any analysis of the state.

    11:09 pm

    Trump projected winner in UT (6; 222) by Fox News.
    Jake Tapper on CNN reflects on the fact that earlier coverage from the Clinton headquarters had suggested NC is so tight it would not be able to be called tonight, and that its now 11:09 and ‘we just called it’ meaning their projections were ‘off’ and their data profiles were wrong. Dana Bash says Clinton had trouble with millennials in NC, and Trump boosted the white vote.
    Major Garrett reporting for CBS at the Trump headquarters says he has been told via a text from Paul Manifort that Reince Preibus and another Republican source in WI believe that Trump will carry the state of WI. The Republican governor of IA has also told them that he expects Trump to carry IA, and they are encouraged with what they are seeing in MI. Garrett says for the first time they are seeing a solid path to victory, due to the industrial Midwest.

    11:10 pm

    Brit Hume on Fox News observed that Trump was disciplined in his campaign the last few weeks and it made a difference in the outcome.
    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC says GOP looks to control all three branches of government. All the polls were wrong. Clinton did not have a five-point national lead in the polls.
    Scott Pelley on CBS asks John Dickerson to outline the paths to 270 for each candidate. For Clinton, Dickerson says she must hold WI, MI, and PA, which is a big challenge for her. For Trump, he has to pick off one of those three states, WI, MI or PA.
    CNN checks WI again and finds Trump still leading by 49,746 votes, 48.8% to 46.1% with 60% reported.

    11:11 pm

    Tucker Carlson at Fox News points out that the contempt Trump supporters have for government was not as strong as the contempt the government had for those voters.
    Nicolle Wallace and Rachel Maddow on MSNBC bitterly argue about how Trump is winning a national election on an anti-government message while GOP incumbents in other races have survived. Wallace ends the exchange by saying that she did not vote for Trump, but it is far more likely that in the morning we will be talking about a Trump cabinet than a Clinton cabinet. Wallace says Paul Ryan will be thrown out. Maddow cannot understand why Ron Johnson wasn’t thrown out.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS holds out hope that Clinton could win GA, in the state is still a tossup. Scott Pelley says a 269-269 tie is possible.

    11:12 pm

    Clinton projected winner in OR by ABC.
    CNN’s John King shows again much more red appears on the 2016 map of WI compared to 2012, and shows how many more rural counties still have more votes to report. In PA, King shows that Trump still has a path to win there too. [This is the first time in the evening he has given some realistic hope for Trump in PA.] King goes on to show that in PA Trump has flipped Erie County from blue to red, and in Lackawanna County, where Obama won 63% of the vote to Romney’s 36%, Trump has won 46.8% to Clinton’s 50.2%.
    Charlie Rose exclaims on CBS that now we know why Clinton ended her campaign in Philadelphia.

    11:13 pm

    Scott Pelley points out that in WI Trump is ahead by about 50,000 votes with over 60% reported, but the CBS coverage again fails to do any analysis of the state. Pelley looks then at FL where now with 96% reported in, Trump still leads by just over 100,000 votes 49% to 47%, and CBS still classifies it as Likely Trump.

    11:14 pm Chris Matthews said the bond between Obama and Clinton has not helped tonight.
    CBS looks at PA and finds that with 81% of the votes counted, Clinton still leads 2,152,985 to 2,052,634, 49% to 47%. CBC classifies it as a Tossup. Then in MI CBS finds Trump ahead by about 58,000 votes, 48% to 46%, with over 50% of the vote counted.
    Karl Rove on Fox News says Clinton’s path to 270 includes NV and NH, plus hold the blue-wall (PA, MN, MI and WI). He says Clinton must now run the table.

    11:15 pm

    Trump projected winner in NC by NY Times; Clinton projected winner in OR by NY Times.
    Karl Rove on Fox News reminds that each party nominated the only candidate who could lose to the other party.
    CNN’s John King says now it is Clinton who needs to draw an inside straight as she needs to turn around both MI and WI and hold on to her lead in PA.

    11:16 pm

    Hugh Hewitt is interviewed on MSNBC and identifies himself as the only reluctant Trump supporter in the building. He says there are millions of voters like him. Obamacare was a huge issue that helped Ron Johnson in WI. He understands Nicolle Wallace’s concerns, but he doesn’t agree. He says the stock market will recover, that Paul Ryan will be retained as speaker, but for all the reluctant Trump voters we are feeling that it is a policy election and a rejection of Clinton’s ethics.
    CBS looks at NH and finds Trump and Clinton tied at 47% with 67% of the vote counted.

    11:17 pm

    Trump projected winner in UT by CBS; Clinton projected winner in OR by CNN and CBS.
    Trump projected winner of 4 out of 5 of electoral votes in NE by CNN. Their earlier call at 9 pm was that he would get 3 of 5. Clinton leads the CNN tally 197 to 187 electoral votes.
    Jake Tapper on CNN speculates that the Trump campaign pulled the late rally from WI because they believed they were too far behind. So the showing Trump has in WI has exceeded their expectations. Dana Bash on CNN points out that Clinton never once campaigned in WI since winning the nomination.
    Major Garrett reports from the Trump headquarters for CBS and says the Trump campaign counts FL as a win, though CBS has not projected a winner yet, they are also beginning to count PA as a win. The Trump campaign is also extremely encouraged about WI. However, in MI the Republican sources sound less confident, saying it is very, very close, with a slight edge for Trump. Garrett says put WI, MI and PA together, and this is the path Trump always imagined. Garrett says the voters in these states have been forgotten.

    11:18 pm

    MSNBC shows the despondent faces of Clinton supporters at the Javits Center.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News says we really don’t know what Trump would do as president.

    11:19 pm

    Fox News shows the shock among supporters at Clinton headquarters. Megyn Kelly says this is not what Clinton supporters expected. They thought she was going to run away with this, and they were measuring the drapes.
    CNN reports that Trump’s lead in MI has dropped to just 24,000 votes.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC reminds viewers that a few days earlier the Clinton campaign stopped the plans for fireworks tonight to celebrate the victory.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at WI to see where there are votes left. He finds maybe 100,000 votes left in Milwaukee County, and maybe another 100,000 votes to come out of Dane County. The problem is Trump is leading in counties like Brown (Green Bay) County, along with other counties that last election voted for Obama. He says WI could go Republican for first time in 32 years.
    CBS’s Norah O’Donnell says the WI senate race appears to be leaning toward Ron Johnson.

    11:20 pm

    CBS’s Bob Schieffer says that at this point it is critical that Clinton hold the state of PA.
    CBS projects Johnson winner over Feingold in WI senate race. CBS characterizes Johnson’s win as cutting off any potential for Democrats to retake control of the US Senate. Norah O’Donnell concludes that as far as congress goes, it is a big night for the Republican Party.
    CNN’s Jake Tapper points out that Michael Moore was interviewed recently and he warned MI was up for grabs and the rust belt polling is all wrong.
    Chris Wallace says Trump may not know how he is going to govern.

    11:21 pm

    CNN reports that Trump’s lead in MI has dropped to 15,000 votes with 55% of the vote reported.

    11:22 pm

    Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews berate voters who went third-party and helped Trump. Matthews says some Republicans changed their minds at the last minute as they said to themselves they are more concerned about a conservative Supreme Court than voting for a guy with moral problems.

    11:23 pm

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says Trump supporters are delusional.
    Scott Pelley on CBS again points out the remarkable fact that Trump never led in the CBS news poll of the presidential race. Bob Schieffer says the race could still go either way. However, Norah O’Donnell reminds the CBS panel that in both 2008 and 2012 they had a winner at this point.

    11:24 pm

    Clinton projected winner in OR by Fox News.
    CNN reports that Trump’s lead in MI has dropped to 13,038 votes, 47.7% to 47.2%, with 56% of the vote reported. Trump with a 66,031 vote lead, 49.1% to 45.8%, in WI with 65% of the vote in. Other key states, Trump enjoys a 9,355 vote lead, 48.2% to 46.2%, in NH with 64% reported; a 32,638 vote lead, 49.2% to 45.1%, in IA with 54% reported.
    MSNBC hosts agree that Trump, if president, will be out for revenge, as it is a core belief of his. He will use the government agencies to get revenge on those who opposed him.
    Carl Cameron reporting for Fox News at Trump headquarters says a top official is optimistic and keenly interested in what is going on in WI, MI and IA. The key target is MI. Cameron says that Trump has a lot of real estate that could put him over the top.

    11:25 pm

    CNN looks at MI and John King says the Clinton team believes the remaining votes from Wayne County are from the Detroit precincts which would be overwhelmingly enough to win the state. King goes on to say the same thing about Milwaukee County in WI, that the Clinton war-room has told him only a few of the Milwaukee precincts have reported in, even though it shows the county as a whole at 87% reported.

    11:26 pm

    Jennifer Griffin reporting for Fox News from Clinton campaign headquarters reveals there have been no updates from campaign representatives for several hours. She describes the mood as subdued, and it is not what was expected.

    11:27 pm

    Democrat commentator Juan Williams on Fox News admits Democrats in full panic mode. He says Democrats are bewildered and sick to their stomachs.
    CNN’s John King says both his Republican and Democrat sources confirm that they believe Trump will win IA.

    11:28 pm

    CNN’s John King points out that even though Trump currently leads in NH, two key Democrat counties have not yet reported any votes.

    11:29 pm

    CNN’s John King looks at Philadelphia and concludes Clinton has hit her target there of about 440,000 vote lead, though 450,000 would be better. Her lead in PA is shrinking, down to 73,000 votes, 48.9% to 47.6%, with 80% of the vote counted. King now describes PA as a squeaker.

    11:30 pm

    Clinton projected winner in VA by NY Times; Trump projected winner in FL, IA (6; 228), and UT by NBC,
    Trump projected winner in WI (10; 238) by Fox News; Trump projected winner in UT by ABC.
    Upon calling WI for Trump, Bret Baier on Fox News admits that the Ron Johnson victory earlier signaled this upset by Trump (though none of them pointed it out at the time). Dana Perino on Fox News says Scott Walker’s machine came through for Trump. Fox News analysts discuss Michael Moore and how he warned Democrats to dismiss Trump at their own peril.

    11:31 pm

    Trump projected winner in IA by Fox News.
    Upon the calls of UT, IA, and FL by NBC, there are more audible gasps heard among the MSNBC hosts.

    11:32 pm

    Trump projected winner in FL by CBS and ABC.
    Fox News hosts make the observation that with WI and IA going for Trump, all he needs to do is win the remaining Romney states (AK, GA, AZ and NE_02) and he reaches 269, winning the white house on the US house tiebreaking vote.
    Steve Karnacki looks at MI and sees Clinton has closed the gap to only a 17,000 vote lead by Trump. He sees a lot of votes in Detroit, although Trump is doing well in flipping Obama counties to Trump wins. He says Trump can still be stopped if Clinton can get MI, WI and NV.
    MSNBC displays a map of remaining battleground states not yet called, and they include NV, AZ, GA, PA, NH and MI. Grey colored states are those MSNBC believes will go in their traditional directions and include AK, MN, ME and WI. WI is shown in this category even though they just looked at the map and saw Trump turning over a dozen counties from blue to red.
    NBC News shows the mood within the Clinton headquarters where supporters are in tears. Andrea Mitchell reports that the stunning information of Trump’s win in IA and FL gives Clinton such a narrow path. Polls missed it, and correspondents missed it.
    Katy Tur reporting for NBC from Trump headquarters says they are chanting “USA, USA, USA.” The mood is growing happier by the minute. The supporters really feel like Trump is going to win. Tur goes on to remind viewers of the long list of problems and controversies Trump has been in throughout the campaign.
    Wolf Blitzer asks John King on CNN to consider the paths to 270 if Clinton wins MI but loses WI. King proceeds to adjust the map by giving Trump WI, Clinton MI, and then he gives FL to Trump, and Blitzer interrupts King telling him to give Clinton NC (even though CNN had already called NC for Trump). King refused and Blitzer tried to insist, but finally King said that we have to give NC to Trump and quickly moved on. He gave NV to Clinton and AZ to Trump to arrive at a 269-268 map.
    Eric Bolling on Fox News said what happened tonight wasn’t able to be polled.

    11:33 pm

    Norah O’Donnell on CBS says this night has gone much different from any prediction. CBS also finds Trump beginning to close the gap in PA where Clinton’s lead is down to 2,365,051 to 2,286,078.

    11:34 pm

    Clinton projected winner in WA by ABC.
    Fox News reports Clinton supporters at the Javits center crying and some are leaving.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says he just received word that Philadelphia margins will exceed 450,000 or 460,000 for Clinton, indicating PA looks likely to be safe for her.
    Rudy Giuliani interviewed by Lester Holt from the Trump campaign headquarters says he is enormously excited for the country, that Trump will be a great president. Compares Trump’s win to Andrew Jackson. Giuliani discounts the Comey story, that most had already made up their minds about her crimes—crimes ignored by the Washington establishment.

    11:35 pm

    NV moves from Tossup to Leans Clinton by CBS. John Dickerson says he expects AZ to go Republican, and says Trump’s path is still PA, WI and MI. Clinton must hold those states and win NV.
    Trump projected winner in FL by CNN as the current tally with 98% reported is Trump 49.1% to Clinton’s 47.7%, a 131,460 vote advantage. This call moves the electoral vote total to 216 for Trump and 197 for Clinton.
    CNN’s Jake Tapper considers the possibility the election is headed toward a 269-269 tie. However, he points out that if Trump gains the one congressional district in ME, he would reach 270.
    Bret Baier on Fox News credits Mike Pence for encouraging Republicans for coming home.
    Tom Llamas on ABC says conventional wisdom has been proven wrong in this election as ABC news returns from a 40-minute break to show faces of crying Clinton supporters at the Javits center to cheers at Trump headquarters. He says going into MN and MI turns out to be a smart play.

    11:36 pm

    Ben Ginsberg on MSNBC says Trump’s platform is still very much unformed.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says, “’President Trump’ may be something that everybody needs to get used to, including the Republican Party.” Mike Murphy says he missed a lot—that Trump broke the rules of politics. He mentions WI even though Chuck Todd has yet to talk about WI since the 9:00pm close of the polls. Murphy goes on to say about WI, that he doesn’t see Clinton winning it, and Todd agrees. Todd goes on to say that unless Clinton pulls off an upset in AZ, her paths to 270 are getting cut off. He says Paul Ryan’s days as Speaker of the House are probably over, it is not his party any longer. Hugh Hewitt disagrees with Todd saying Obamacare cost hikes affected the election. He says Trump will work with Paul Ryan and congress. Hewitt mentions Ron Johnson winning WI senate even though NBC has yet to say a word about the outcome of that race.
    CBS’s Gayle King points out that Trump was saying all along he would win the rust belt states and it appears he is doing that. CBS also shows live video of dejected Clinton supporters at the Javits Center.

    11:37 pm

    Trump projected winner in IA by ABC. Jonathan Karl looks at the potential paths for Clinton and says she now must win all of the rust-belt states, MI, WI, MN, and PA, along with NV.
    CNN finds Trump’s lead in MI has grown to 29,297 votes, 48% to 47% with 59% reported; Trump is also ahead 68,877 votes, 49% to 45.8%, in WI with 70% reported.
    Steve Schmidt on MSNBC says the party of Reagan no longer exists. He goes on to lay out a long list of enormous issues in foreign policy that are now uncertain.
    Gayle King on CBS wonders if there was a secret Trump voter. John Dickerson responds that he does not know. The CBS panel seems surprised that images from the Javits Center show women crying. Michael Gerson on CBS calls this election a populist wave—a reaction against globalism.

    11:38 pm

    Trump projected winner in GA (16; 254) and FL by NY Times; Trump projected winner in IA by CBS.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC decries Trump’s call for a Muslim ban in America, and expresses concern for our Muslim American friends. Bret Baier on Fox News reflects on what it means for Republicans to hold the presidency, and both chambers of congress.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC looks at their path to 270 chart of 12 battleground states where Clinton has already taken CO and VA, and Trump has taken FL, IA, NC and OH. Karl gives Clinton MI, NH, NV, and PA, she still gets only to 268 and would need to win AZ or WI.

    11:39 pm

    Trump projected winner in GA by Fox News.
    ABC News panelists all agree Trump is in the driver’s seat with multiple paths, while Clinton has but one path left, which includes flipping three states where Trump currently leads. ABC finds Trump is still leading in NH, MI, WI, while Clinton leads in MN, but only barely leads in PA. This seems to be the moment ABC’s many panelists and commentators give up any remaining hope of Clinton coming back to win.
    Mark Leibovich interviewed on CBS says the results really should not be a surprise as precedent and conventional wisdom has been wrong all through the process.
    John King on CNN looks at MI and WI and he senses the math in WI is getting harder for Clinton. Then King once again looks at the electoral math as he had just done minutes earlier and shows how Trump winning FL, NC, and OH, along with possible wins in AZ and WI would put him at 269, needing only NH or the one congressional district in ME.
    Jonathan Karl points to Door County, WI that has now flipped red.

    11:40 pm

    ABC’s Terry Moran says this is similar to Britain to leave the European Union. ABC anchors say Vladimir Putin likely excited tonight, while other world leaders are fearful. In turn, the ABC analysts all sound off their frustration that Trump is winning, accusing his rallies of being all white, referencing the 1950s, opposed to immigrants, Latinos, women, anti-Muslim comments, etc.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks again at WI. He says she has more votes in Milwaukee and Dane Counties still to come. The problem for her is that if she gets what is expected there, she still probably falls short because of a large number of small counties that will add up more numbers for Trump.
    Michael Gerson says the results have confirmed the suspicions some people have about polling and elite opinion being wrong. Trump appealed to those who believed in the conspiracy of the establishment. These voters will take the result as a confirmation of these beliefs. Norah O’Donnell on CBS looks at exit polling and says Trump is winning suburban white women by ten points MI, by seven points in WI, by two points in PA, and by ten points in OH. Gayle King thinks this is a very big surprise.

    11:41 pm

    Bob Schieffer on CBS says the election could still go either way, but while he says this, side by side video of each campaign headquarters indicate the direction the election is headed. Clinton supporters are in tears, dejected, Trump supporters are cheering.
    Fox News again shows the dejected Clinton supporters at the Javits Center.
    Byron Pitts on ABC says there is a level of fear growing tonight in people of color, and says there were not many brown people walking around at the Trump campaign headquarters.

    11:42 pm

    Clinton projected winner in WA by CNN. This tightens their electoral vote total, 216 to 209, Trump leading.
    MSNBC interviews Rudy Giuliani and he says he is very happy for Trump and for the country. He says this a real victory for the people. He compares Trump to Andrew Jackson. The people rose up against a dysfunctional government.
    CNN’s John King looks at the ME and NE congressional districts still up for grabs. He admits that his computer wasn’t setup to draw the lines and total the numbers for these districts and they will have to wait for their analysts to declare a winner.
    Fox News analysts discuss who Trump will choose for his cabinet positions.
    ABC projects Ron Johnson winner over Feingold in WI senate race. Panelist Bill Kristol, confused, seems to think this will lead to a 50/50 split in the senate where the vice-president would have the deciding vote.

    11:43 pm

    Nancy Cordes at the Javits Center says the election result is a stunner, and the supporters there are in shock because these are the most dedicated volunteers, and the struggle in WI is particularly surprising. Cordes points out that Clinton has not been in WI for seven months. Cordes’ contact within the Clinton campaign says he believes Clinton will win WI due to more votes out of Madison, and MI due to remaining votes in Detroit.
    Juan Williams on Fox News does not think the rest of the world will quickly adjust to the idea of Trump as president.
    Chuck Todd on NBC points to the third-party vote count more than being the difference between Clinton and Trump.
    CNN’s John King looks at NH and finds Trump’s lead holding steady at about 12,000 votes, 48.5% to 46.1%, with 60% reported. However, he says there are more than enough Democrat areas yet to report to close the gap.
    Bill Kristol on ABC points out for the first time on that network that the remaining votes in PA look to be Republican areas, and it appears the ‘blue-wall’ is totally crumbling. Jonathan Karl says WI senate results is a shocker that no one predicted. The 5-9 expected Republican losses in the house is far less than expected.

    11:44 pm

    Trump projected winner in GA by NBC and CBS. Brian Williams on MSNBC said there was a lot of talk of GA coming into play. NBC/MSNBC also moves WI and AZ from Too Early to Call to the status of Too Close to Call.
    Scott Pelley says Trump is getting very close now with 244 electoral votes to Clinton’s 197. Major Garrett reporting for CBS says the Trump campaign was confident their supporters would get out to vote. He said, “If there is one thing people close to Donald Trump have told me throughout this campaign, it is this, ‘that all the polling modeling for this election would be off—skewed in the wrong direction—not capturing the voters who were showing up at these rallies’ and that the Trump people were certain would show up to vote. As they often told me, ‘Anyone who stands in line for seven hours to not see a concert and be fed, is going to show up at a polling booth and cast a ballot.’”

    11:45 pm

    Further confusion at ABC News as the hosts conflate the non-existent ‘Madison County’ with Dane County: George Stephanopoulos asks Jonathan Karl, their data analyst, “Let’s dig into Wisconsin a little bit more…what are you seeing out of Madison County in Wisconsin?” Karl: “Let’s take a look—Madison County we see 70…in Madison we see 71 percent of the vote’s in—obviously huge Clinton vote there, but uh, uh 29 percent still to come in.” Stephanopoulos: “29% still to come. How about Dane County?” Karl: “Dane County. Right next door….uh wait…I don’t have Dane County at my…uh there it is Dane County, 71 percent in, and obviously it’s a big democratic county. So there still is…there still are…are a lot of outstanding Democratic votes potentially out there, but Trump has a a solid lead [Stephanopoulos talks over top of Karl ending the exchange].”
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC points out that we have not heard from the Clinton campaign as to what they project as their plan to come back in the race tonight. He thinks they never expected to have to have a plan to communicate with press from the position they are in right now.

    11:46 pm

    John King on CNN looks at MI and sees that Trump’s lead has grown to about 30,000 votes. He calls the state an ‘inchworm’ as the votes trickle in. he finds 77% of the precincts in Wayne County have reported, but according to the Clinton campaign, the Detroit precincts are still not reported. King points to Macomb County where Trump has flipped it from blue to red, a significant statement about union voters.
    Steve Karnacki at the MSNBC computer, attempts to get their “Race to 270” tool to work, but says it won’t work and he will work the numbers manually. This condition appears to be due to the state of WI never being classified as a battleground state, so he cannot get it to show up the way he needs to. He runs the numbers, and gives Trump AZ which gets him to 255. Then one in ME gets him to 256. Then he tentatively awards Trump NH which gets him to 260. He then points to WI and remarks that it would put Trump at 270. Chris Matthews responds by exclaiming “Jesus.” Rachel Maddow laughs at him.
    Tom Llamas on ABC talks about possible Trump cabinet.

    11:47 pm

    ABC News’ Tom Llamas says that inside the Trump war-room, the Trump family and the staff are all high-fiving—celebrating a victory tonight. Cecilia Vega says by contrast that the Clinton team was measuring the drapes.
    NBC looks in again at the cheering supporters at the Trump campaign headquarters. The Clinton headquarters has a much different response to events.
    CBS looks at WI, and for the first time in the evening, they actually show vote totals, with Trump leading Clinton 1,085,219 to 1,006,812, 49% to 45% with 71% reported. CBS also finds Trump closing the gap in PA, with Clinton leading just 2,405,972 to 2,347,025. John Dickerson comments on WI saying it looks like it is ‘slipping away’ from Clinton.

    11:48 pm

    Trump projected winner in GA by CNN. This updates the electoral vote count to 232 for Trump to 209 for Clinton.
    MSNBC reports from the Trump campaign headquarters at the Hilton, and Brian Williams asks the reporter there if the condition is different there, compared to the Clinton campaign that has gone dark, like the far side of the moon. The reporter says the Trump campaign is jubilant. The war-room is “crazy” with excitement, but Trump himself is now upstairs spending time with his family.
    Lester Holt interviews Doris Kearns Goodwin and Michael Beschloss on NBC. Goodwin compares election to “Dewey Defeats Truman.” People talk to each other too much instead of the voters outside. Beschloss says it is almost never the case in history for one party to hold on three terms in a row.
    David Axelrod on CNN deadpans that the only thing wrong with the polls was the numbers. He calls this a primal scream on the part of a lot of voters.
    Alex Castellanos on ABC points out that Trump T-shirts said ‘Make America Great Again’ while the Clinton shirts just said ‘Clinton 2016,’ an indication that the Clinton team had no message or vision. They tested 85 slogans in the campaign and never found a clear message.

    11:49 pm

    Sean Hannity on Fox News believes Trump’s success was an all of the above thing rather than just one factor. Voters said enough is enough. Hannity says Paul Ryan will not be speaker of the house in January; blames both Democrats and Republicans for failures of government.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS says there are now many ways Trump can get to 270. Scott Pelley asks if it is now true that Trump has more paths to 270 than Clinton.
    ABC panelist says voters went with the devil they don’t know rather than the devil they knew.

    11:50 pm

    Clinton projected winner in WA by CBS.
    Gloria Borger on CNN says the Trump campaign getting 10% more of the rural turnout than they originally thought they would get.
    MSNBC host asks James Carville if WI is looking “shaky” for Clinton, and he affirms that “shaky” is an optimistic word for it. He warns that the election is going to have consequences, and he is distraught over the election. Carville says Obamacare is done. He says there is no point in sugar-coating it, and ends with “please God let me be wrong.” Michael Steele on MSNBC says this is the moment he shows the country he is president, and that now the country must come around to Trump. Carville objects saying Trump did not run to unify the country, rather he ran on division.
    CBS’s Gayle King says Canada’s immigration website has crashed as Clinton supporters inquire about leaving the country.
    According to a report by NBC’s Kristen Welker at 12:35 am, this was the moment the Clinton campaign at the Javits Center ‘went dark’ and no longer updated media or supporters.
    Michael Smerconish on CNN suggests this was not the year to represent the establishment. He says Trump’s ‘go it alone’ persona helped him.
    Nia-Malika Henderson on CNN points to the Bernie Sanders supporters in MI possibly going for Trump instead of Clinton.
    Sean Hannity on Fox News says people saw in Trump someone who was successful, and the cut through all the noise and said we are not on the right path.

    11:51 pm

    CNN reports Trump’s WI lead has grown to 83,000 votes with 72% in, and 41,000 in MI with 60% in.
    ABC’s Republican strategist Alex Castellanos describes the Clinton campaign’s lack of message and vision with the slogan, “If you don’t build a church without Jesus, you have a warehouse.”
    ABC news analyst recalls asking Trump in 2013 what his message would be if he ever ran for President, and he said “Make America Great Again.”

    11:52 pm

    Trump projected winner in GA by ABC.
    Having never once looked at the WI map, Chuck Todd on NBC says he thinks WI will go to Trump. He thinks Clinton will win MI. He gives NV to Clinton, AZ and AK to Trump along with 1 EV from ME, Clinton 1 EV from NE, and NH and PA to Clinton, all which results in a 269 tie. He says it is a very plausible scenario.
    Peggy Noonan interviewed on CBS says the unprotected pushed back against the protected in a way that is historic. Jamelle Bouie on CBS compares the election to reconstruction when angry whites took control. He says Trump ran a campaign of ‘racism and bigotry.’

    11:53 pm

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC again holds out hope that the senate control is still up for grabs.
    Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC within the Javits Center says people are “shell-shocked” and there is no one from the campaign to rally the crowd or provide any communication. Earlier in the evening they were talking about her victory speech and what her granddaughter was wearing. That festive mood has changed.
    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC reports that she heard Trump went back to his apartment to review his victory speech.

    11:54 pm

    CNN takes another sweep through battleground states: Trump ahead in MI by 31,966, 48% to 46.9%, with 62% in; 89,722 vote lead, 49.4% to 45.4%, in WI with 73% in; 57,205 vote lead, 49.4% to 45.8%, in AZ with 61% in; a 10,844 vote lead, 48.5% to 46.4%, in NH with 69% reported in; Trump ahead 106,652 votes, 51.6% to 42.5%, in IA with 78% reported; in PA Clinton leads by 40,057 votes, 48.6% to 47.8%, with 85% reported; Clinton also leads in NV by 39,442 votes, 49.7% to 44.5% with 66% reported. Finally in UT Trump leads 52.9% to 21.5%, a 97,175 vote lead with 31% reported. Evan McMullin is receiving 21.4% of the vote.
    CBS’s Anthony Salvanto looks at the paths to 270 for each candidate. However, he really doesn’t have anything useful to say as his math is not accurate in describing minimal paths for either candidate.
    Sean Hannity on Fox News says he spoke with Trump several times throughout the evening and he is just watching the returns like everyone else.

    11:55 pm

    ABC News analyst says Trump’s win would be the biggest news story in 100 years.
    Steve Schmidt on MSNBC says the body language at the Clinton campaign headquarters says it all. Schmidt goes on to bring up the Russians and their attempt to influence the election by their hacking of e-mails.

    11:56 pm

    CNN’s Brianna Keilar at the Clinton headquarters says the mood is much different from what it was earlier. Clinton’s supporters are stone-faced, crying, or leaving, including those sitting behind the stage. People are in shock, mouths gaping open; arms crossed, hands over mouths. It is a complete reversal of what it was a few hours ago. They were completely sure Clinton would win in an early night. Wolf Blitzer says he understands their sadness.
    Sean Hannity on Fox News says the Republican congress should work with Trump, rather than Trump work with them. He advises Trump to be less interventionist.

    11:57 pm

    MSNBC’s Steve Karnacki looks at PA again, where Clinton had a moderate lead, and he finds that the lead has all but evaporated, with Clinton ahead just over 7,000 votes. He shows how Clinton got her margins out of Philadelphia, but Trump did slightly better than Romney in the Philadelphia suburbs. However, the remaining source of outstanding votes in PA and they are in Trump areas. As he speaks, the lead drops to 4,000 votes, with Trump closing.

    11:58 pm

    Fox News looks at the remaining states and concludes Clinton must win AZ and almost all remaining states to win election.
    CNN’s Jim Acosta from the Trump headquarters says it feels like a victory party. But there is a ‘disturbing’ chant, ‘Lock her up.’ Acosta says they are ‘over the moon’ tonight with these results. Acosta says he got a text from a Republican who had said earlier it would take a miracle for Trump to win, and the latest text read, ‘Do you believe in miracles?’
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, once again recounts how Trump plans to ban Islam and deport millions. Nicolle Wallace chimes in “horrific…appalling”

    11:59 pm

    Nate Silver on ABC now projects Trump’s chances at 78% to win, though he now expects Clinton to win popular vote.
    ABC analyst says Trump’s lead in WI is growing.
    Steve Schmidt on MSNBC says the Republican Party of Reagan, and the two Bush presidents is gone.
    Bill Hemmer on Fox News looks at the possible paths for Clinton. She would have to win PA, MI, MN, NV, ME, and NH does not get her there, as she would have to win AZ. Hemmer looks at MI and finds the state map is much more red than it was four years ago. The same condition is found in WI. Hemmer then gets confused saying it all comes down to MI, but given that Trump won WI, the election actually comes down to AZ, as he had said a few moments earlier.

  458. DW says:

    12:00-1:00: Hour of Confusion

    Nothing much happened during this hour. Some networks called NV for Clinton, but mostly this hour was networks analyzing what went wrong for Clinton. Reports from the Javits Center suggested that the supporters there were confused because the Clinton campaign leadership went dark and no longer provided updates. Trump took the lead in PA just after 12:00 a.m., and that lead grew throughout the hour, making all the more certain it was over but nobody knew what the Clinton campaign was thinking or doing. Adding to the confusion was the promise by some news anchors that they would have a declared winner within the hour, a promise that never happened.

    12:00 am

    Clinton projected winner in CO by NY Times; Trump projected winner in UT by NY Times.
    CNN reports the DOW futures are down 790 points.
    ABC reports that a senior Trump campaign source says Trump left the war-room to spend time with his wife at Trump Tower.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at WI again and sees Trump’s lead is growing despite more votes coming in from Democrat strongholds in Dane County and Milwaukee.

    12:01 am

    NBC opens their top of the hour coverage with a look at the reactions among supporters at both campaign headquarters juxtaposing cheers among Trump supporters and tears at Clinton headquarters.
    NBC looks at the battleground states that remain and finds Trump leading MI by 51,895 with 64% reported; Trump leads in WI by 82,156 votes with 75% reported; Trump leading NH by 6,331 votes with 76% reported; Clinton leads in ME by 18,020 votes with 68% reported; Clinton leads MN by 131,502 votes with 69% reported; Clinton leads in PA by 7,220 votes with 89% reported; Clinton leads in NV by 39,442 votes with 66% reported; Trump leads AZ by 57,205 votes with 61% reported.
    CBS moves WI from Edge Trump to Leaning Trump. In response, the CBS panel concludes that Trump should be at 270 if in fact WI goes to Trump.

    12:02 am

    ABC reports that Trump has almost tied Clinton in PA.
    CNN’s Dana Bash says her contacts who have worked for the Clinton campaign are getting more and more pessimistic. She says the results for Trump is much more than just the Comey investigation of Clinton. Jake Tapper goes on to say white working class voters are the biggest demographic in the United States. He says Bernie Sanders might have been a better nominee for that demographic.
    Lester Holt on NBC asks Chuck Todd to comment on PA, and he says what remains to come in favors Clinton. More votes in Allegheny County. Todd says all Trump has to do is win PA and it is ballgame. For the first time Todd acknowledges Trump could win PA, MI and WI—all three.
    CBS looks at WI and with 90% of the vote reported, Trump has taken the lead, 2,588,237 to 2,577,891. John Dickerson reacts by saying if you are a Clinton supporter the numbers are going in the wrong direction for you because Clinton had been in the lead.

    12:03 am

    Fox News’ Bill Hemmer mentioned that before election day, Trump operatives were adamant that NC was going to Trump and did not understand why it was tossup.
    Nicolle Wallace and Chris Matthews battle Rachel Maddow on MSNBC over what Trump will do on immigration.
    Savannah Guthrie makes the point that Clinton never did visit WI, and so she took these rust belt states for granted. Chuck Todd goes on to say the ‘miss’ tonight by media, pollster, everyone is ‘far and wide.’

    12:04 am

    CNN’s John King looks again at WI and MI and says if these two states keep going the way they are, the Warren / Sanders primary might start tomorrow. Trump leads WI by 89,000 votes, 49.3% to 45.5%, with 77% reported. King says Trump has the advantage in WI.
    Chuck Todd points to the missing white vote as what came out for Trump that did not for Romney. Tom Brokaw points to the secret ballot—many voters who voted Trump but kept it to themselves.
    CBS’s Anthony Mason looks at exit polling in WI and finds Clinton led among young voters 46% to 39%, but four years earlier, Obama got 60% of the same segment. Among independent voters, Obama won them by 2 points, but Trump won them 45% to 40%.

    12:05 am

    ABC News analyst compares Trump’s outsider campaign to Andrew Jackson.
    MSNBC projects Cortez Masto winner over Heck in NV senate race.
    Chuck Todd asks the question, “what if Joe Biden had run?” “Was the Democratic ticket too white?” Todd also asks if maybe Bernie Sanders had his finger on the pulse of what is going on in America.
    Tom Brokaw says Democratic the ticket was too “establishment.”
    Fox News shows close up images of the faces at Clinton headquarters were people are crying and are stone-faced in disbelief.
    Chris Stirewalt on Fox News says now it is Clinton who needs the inside straight to come back, needing to win AZ. Stirewalt goes on to say MN looks tough for Clinton to win, and it is looking good for Trump.

    12:06 am

    Joe Trippi on Fox News had felt Clinton was protected by the idea that Trump had no path. He agrees that MN looks tougher for Clinton that MI. Trippi expresses shock that Hillary is now where they thought Trump would be.
    CNN reports that Trump has just taken the lead in PA, with 90% of the vote reported in, he has a 7,758 vote lead, 48.3% to 48.2%.
    Scott Pelley on CBS says it is very rare for the American people to grant one party three presidential terms in a row.

    12:07 am

    Karl Rove on Fox News says Trump should thank Scott Walker and Paul Ryan for organization in WI. Rove disagrees with Hannity regarding removal of Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House.
    ABC reports Trump has taken lead in PA by 8,000 votes. Data analyst says it appears Trump has won.
    Chuck Todd warns “President Trump has no shackles.”
    Gayle King says Obama recently said it would be an insult to his legacy if he is followed by Trump.

    12:08 am

    Trump projected winner in IA by CNN. The updated electoral vote total shows Trump ahead 238 to 209. John King says that the state that launched President Obama’s career has just voted for Trump.
    Hallie Jackson on NBC looks at exit polling data nationwide and finds that Clinton won voters under 30 years old by 54% to 37% for Trump. This compares to 60% to 37% four years ago. The difference was the third-party vote.
    John Dickerson on CBS says many voters he spoke with said they did not care about Trump’s temperament, they just wanted someone to dismantle Washington because it is not working. Gayle King agreed saying she heard from voters who wanted to try a businessman as President.

    12:09 am

    CNN reports that Trump’s lead in PA has grown to 11,000 votes. John King says it is the white working class areas.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC checks PA again and finds that Trump has now taken the lead in PA by 1,000 votes. He points out one strongly GOP county has not yet reported any votes, and they expect 60,000 votes there in a county Romney won 2-1.
    ABC news report from Johnstown, PA says Trump supporters there are nervous, but confident.
    Chuck Todd mentions that this is a result damaging to Obama’s legacy.
    Scott Pelley on CBS says that at the rate data is coming in, they may have a winner in the next 30 minutes or so.
    Karl Rove and Tucker Carlson have a debate on Fox News on the effect Paul Ryan had on Trump’s winning WI.

    12:10 am

    ABC news host reminds viewers that the new president will be Commander-in-Chief at a time we are at war.
    CBS’s Major Garrett at the Trump headquarters says one of the characteristics of Trump’s campaign all along was that he could do this by himself without the help of the Republican party. Trump believed the estrangement was a strength, not a weakness. Garrett says Trump’s supporters said they liked the fact that Trump could not be bought.

    12:11 am

    CBS notes that the DOW futures are down 840 points.
    Joe Trippi on Fox News points to exit polling that said a majority said that 22% of the group who wanted the country to get more liberal voted for Trump, a reflection of Bernie Sanders supporters.

    12:12 am

    CNN looks at NH again and Trump leads by 5,000 votes, with one of Clinton’s key counties now in.
    ABC reports a tweet from a Clinton donor who says the election is over and done, Trump is president.

    12:13 am

    CNN finds that Trump’s lead in MI has dropped to 19,000 votes.
    ABC reports that there are no Clinton campaign staff available for comment at the Javits Center.

    12:15 am

    NBC projects Cortez Masto winner over Heck in NV senate race. NBC then surveys the remaining senate races and finds in MO Blunt leads Kander by 136,807 votes with 74% reported; Toomey leading in PA by 24,591 with 90% reported; and Ayotte leads Hassan in NH by 7,293 votes with 78% reported. Susannah Guthrie suggests that Democrats not looking to be able to flip the senate. No mention was made of Burr’s win in NC or Johnson’s win in WI, even though the NBC data center had sent that information on to MSNBC where those races were called.
    CBS looks at PA and finds Trump ahead 2,653,091 to 2,652,002 with 92% reported. Norah O’Donnell describes PA as a ‘must-win’ state for Clinton. CBS finds Trump ahead in MI 1,695,447 to 1,674,954 with 71% reported, and in WI, Trump leads 1,206,799 to 1,111,022 (49% to 45%).

    12:16 am

    Fox News reports (erroneously) that Trump is on his way over to the Trump headquarters (at the Hilton).
    CNN surveys the states again: Trump ahead 23,126, 47.8% to 47.1%, in MI with 70% reported; Trump ahead 92,065 votes, 49.3% to 45.5%, in WI with 78% in; Arizona shows a 58,662 vote lead, 49.4% to 45.8%, for Trump with 63% reported; in NH a 5,134 vote lead, 47.9% to 47%, for Trump with 77% in; Trump ahead 100,365 votes in UT with 32% reported; with 92% reported in PA, Trump leads by 2,857 votes, 48.2% to 48.2%. In NV Clinton leads by 36,873 votes, 49.3% to 44.8%, with 71% reported, and in MN Clinton leads by 116,318 votes, 48.9% to 43.3%, with 72% reported. In ME, Clinton leads by 15,482 votes, 48.1% to 45.1%, with 71% reported in.
    NBC’s Chuck Todd surveys the remaining battleground states. In MI, he finds Trump leading by 23,126 votes with 70% remaining, and Todd believes she is underperforming in Wayne County, and there is a lot of vote left in Flint, but Clinton does have a path to win. For the first time since the 9:00 pm close, Chuck Todd actually analyses WI saying that it looks like it is going toward Trump, who leads by 92,592 votes with 78% reported, but the no call is due to Milwaukee not knowing how much absentee vote is not counted. In NH, Trump leads 5,125 with 77% reporting, but it is too narrow a margin to analyze. In ME, Clinton leads by 15,482 votes with 71% counted, and Todd believes there will be a split in electoral votes with Trump getting at least 1. In MN Clinton leads by 116,318 votes with 72% counted. Chuck Todd doesn’t see Trump winning, though he is doing better than expected. Chuck Todd says the blue wall “has tons of cracks in it.” In the state of PA, Trump leads by 1,089 votes with 92% reported. Todd says we will have to wait until all the votes are counted.

    12:17 am

    Chris Wallace on Fox News suggests that President Obama’s legacy is at stake with Trump’s apparent victory—that he was really campaigning for himself while out stumping for Clinton.
    Chuck Todd believes there could be recounts in PA, ME_02, and NE_02.
    Bob Schieffer says PA in 2016 is the FL of the 2000 election.

    12:18 am

    Jake Tapper on CNN says Trump winning states he targeted including giving her a run for her money in the rust belt states. Trump is re-drawing the map according to Tapper.
    Michael Beschloss on MSNBC says this is a “wave” election.
    Charlie Rose interviews Michael Gerson who says those worried about a President Trump need to remember there is a balance of power in government. Ruth Marcus counters by suggesting congressional Republicans will not stop Trump.

    12:19 am

    Brit Hume on Fox News highlights Obama’s use of executive order significant in election; points out that both Heck in NV and Ayotte in NH in trouble, and they were the two who moves away from Trump. Megyn Kelly suggests that the Democrats who had no problem with Obama wielding the executive order might now feel very differently about it with a President Trump.

    12:20 am

    ABC again reports that key Clinton donors are saying the election is over, and there is nothing but silence from the actual Clinton campaign.
    Brit Hume on Fox News points out that Senator Ayotte in NH and Joe Heck in NV, both ran away from Trump and both are in trouble tonight.

    12:21 am

    Jake Tapper on CNN recounts a story from Philadelphia about a restaurant owner who was asked if people were voting for Hillary or for Trump. He replied by saying they had a lot of leaners. When asked to explain he said they lean in close to whisper ‘I think I might vote for Trump.’
    Fox News points out that in exit polling, 69% of those who said neither candidate was qualified voted for Trump.

    12:22 am

    Dana Bash on CNN says KellyAnne Conway was right to say that there was a hidden Trump vote.
    Tucker Carlson on Fox News said exit polling found 97% of those who voted for Clinton said a President Trump would be scary.

    12:23 am

    NBC interviews a voter on the street who identifies himself as a doctor, who says his patients tell him Obamacare is just too expensive, so he voted for Trump.
    Jake Tapper on CNN says Republicans did not anticipate this election night would unfold this way.
    Chris Stirewalt on Fox News reminds viewers that there were questions over whether or not Trump would accept defeat, but now the question will be Hillary Clinton’s response if Trump wins, the Electoral College but loses the popular vote.

    12:24 am

    Clinton projected winner in NV (6; 215) by Fox News. Joe Trippi on Fox News says Hillary will surge past Trump in popular vote when the west coast returns are counted.

    12:25 am

    CNN reports that Clinton has taken the lead in NH by 18 votes, 47.5% to 47.4%, with 79% reported; displaying a national map for the first time that would match the final map by the time all votes were counted.

    12:26 am

    CNN’s John King examines the counties in NH and finds that the large urban areas favoring Clinton have now reported in.
    Brit Hum on Fox News, upon learning that the French Ambassador is shocked at the outcome says that if the French are upset by this, it is good news to him. Hume says the tanking markets are a great buying opportunity.

    12:27 am

    Chris Wallace on Fox News points out that when Trump went to Mexico he was very respectful. Fox News anchors again are confused about the states Trump needs to win, saying either MI or MN would do it, but at 254 electoral votes he only needed ME_02, AK, and AZ to reach 269.

    12:28 am

    Clinton projected winner in NV by ABC.
    Bret Baier on Fox News points out that Trump would be the first president who never held office or was in the military.

    12:29 am

    Trump projected winner in IA by NY Times.
    CNN’s John King looks at MI where Trump has grown his lead a little, ahead now 47.9% to 46.9% with 74% reported.

    12:30 am

    Lester Holt opens the 12:30 coverage by going to Hallie Jackson for a look at markets, and she finds the S&P 500 has been stopped from going below a 5% drop.
    CNN’s John King looks at WI where Trump is stretching his lead with 81% reported he leads 49.2% to 45.6%. King also looks at PA where 92% has reported and Trump leads by about 2000 votes. With Trump leading PA, MI and WI, King calls it a complete re-writing of the map.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News says that New York Magazine has an edition on news stands right now with a nasty looking face of Donald Trump with the word ‘LOSER’ across his face. Chris Wallace alludes to the ‘Dewey Defeats Truman’ Chicago Tribune release. Tucker Carlson relates a conversation he had with someone in the print media who was pre-printing their material with a Clinton win. When asked if they should really be doing that, because what if Trump wins? Then answer from everyone in the room was a sarcastic, ‘Come on now!’ and ‘Go to the children’s table, you are an idiot.’

    12:31 am

    CNN shows Trump now ahead again in NH by 15 votes.
    Megyn Kelly points out an ABC interview where Ann Coulter was asked who would win, and everyone burst out laughing when she said Donald Trump.

    12:32 am

    ABC host says Trump’s win, along with Brexit is the rejection of the New World Order of globalization.
    Clinton projected winner in NV by NBC. Chuck Todd says Clinton’s only path is to win PA and MI where she trails and she needs to win the 2nd congressional districts in ME and NE.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News calls out the New York Times and the Washington Post for their coverage of Trump and their outright bias and lack of objectivity, calling it ‘a shame.’

    12:33 am

    CNN finds that Clinton exceeded the goal a 455,000 vote lead in Philadelphia, but was swamped in the rest of the state.
    Clinton projected winner in NV by CNN. Their updated total is Trump 238, Clinton 215.
    ABC news reports Trump is now in a wait and see mode, to see if a network calls the race or if he gets a concession call from Clinton.
    Matthew Dowd on ABC says state polling was way off.
    MSNBC looks at the states not yet called and finds Trump leading PA by 2,992 votes with 92% reported; Trump leading MI by 35,669 with 74% reported; Trump leading in AZ by 59,397 with 64% reported.
    Chuck Todd looks at PA and finds Trump still leading by just under 3,000 votes with 92% reported. He says there are places where the vote is not yet in at all, but he promises there will be no call until all of the votes are in, but “boy does she need to turn it around.”
    Fox News again points out they are waiting for MN and MI, and do not mention either PA or AZ.

    12:34 am

    Kristen Welker at the Clinton campaign headquarters says there was cheering over the NV call, but this is anything but a victory party. There are a lot of red faces, supporters in stunned disbelief, and grief is setting in.
    CBS News looks at the battleground states and finds little different from their last update. John Dickerson warns that there is a strong Republican county in PA that has yet to report any vote counts.

    12:35 am

    NBC’s Kristen Welker confirms that the Clinton campaign has now gone dark, saying that it has now been 45 minutes since there was anything said from the campaign leadership. Welker reminds viewers that Clinton held that big rally in Philadelphia, and that PA, along with MI is her firewall. As her path narrows, the crowd is getting more somber.
    CNN with another update of states: Trump ahead 33,876 votes, 47.9% to 47%, in MI with 75% reported; Trump has a 86,077 vote lead, 49.1% to 45.7%, in WI with 83% of the vote in; Trump leads by 59,905 votes, 49.3% to 45.7%, in AZ with 64% in; Trump leading in NH by 864 votes, 47.5% to 47.4%, with 81% in; Trump ahead 81,170 votes, 50.9% to 22.8%, in UT with 29% in; Trump leads in PA by 25,479 votes, 48.5% to 48%, with 93% reported; Clinton leads in MN by 89,776 votes, 48.1% to 44.1%, with 77% reporting; Clinton leads in ME by 17,153 votes, 48.1% to 45%, with 75% reporting.

    12:36 am

    Clinton projected winner in NV by CBS. Bob Schieffer excitedly exclaims that this puts Clinton within 55 Electoral Votes.
    Fox news projects Cortez Masto winner over Heck in NV senate race.
    Democrat Strategist Stephanie Cutter on ABC expresses frustration at the divisive message that Trump used to win.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC is “amazed at the ethnic breakdown in the country the way it’s going…is not a pretty picture. [Eugene Robinson interrupts: “No, It is not pretty at all”] I am just watching it…when you get a tremendous black vote out of the city of Philly and then you have this counter-punch pattern” [Eugene Robinson takes over] “you had very robust turnout among Latinos among African Americans who came out, delivered the votes…but there was a much bigger turnout from those rural areas—small towns…there is racial a divide, urban versus…rural divide.”
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks quickly at NH because Trump’s narrow lead has all but vanished, and he promises it will not be called until all the votes are in. Lester Holt asks him about the importance of NH, but Todd ignores his question and talks about Dixville Notch.

    12:37 am

    Steve Hilton commenting on Fox News sees similarities between Brexit and Trump’s victory. He says Clinton’s basket of deplorables comment was significant. He says that even more important was the fact that many people have suffered under globalization.
    Jeffrey Lord on CNN says Clinton was the ‘Jeb Bush’ of the Democrat Party – an establishment candidate.
    Chuck Todd on NBC looks again at the scenarios to 270 and he gives Trump AZ and AK, and Clinton gets MN and NH, but that would still not be enough, as she would also need to get all of the electoral votes in ME and get one out of NE.
    Norah O’Donnell says that within 30 minutes CBS will have a projected winner in the presidential race.
    Major Garrett on CBS reports from Trump headquarters says supporters there are feeling very good. He says the last week Trump’s inner circle told him that if the election breaks late, it will not be detected by polling, and it would be widespread among the key battleground states. This break toward Trump is because he is the agent of change.

    12:38 am

    ABC reports that Trump still leads in PA even though Pittsburgh is almost all reported in.
    Lester Holt asks if there is a racial split in the country. Chuck Todd says the Latino vote showed up, but it wasn’t enough. This was shown by TX and AZ being close. Nicolle Wallace says it is more about class warfare than race. People don’t like being called ‘fly-over’ country.
    Nancy Cordes reporting from the Javits Center says it is like all the air has been sucked out of the room. It is entirely silent, and nobody thought it would come down to WI. Cordes reminds viewers that Clinton never visited the state. Trade was a bigger issue than the Clinton campaign believed. Cordes says Clinton took WI for granted and should not have.

    12:39 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC reminds viewers that Trump has not taken any deep blue states.
    Kasie Hunt on MSNBC reminds the hosts how badly Washington DC has been disconnected from all this. The GOP establishment was waiting for Trump to lose. Hunt’s communication with Lindsay Graham finds him seeking for a way to work with Trump and find consensus.
    Steve Hilton interviewed on Fox News expects the markets to quickly recover as people are reassured and he expects growth as Trump will be able to implement economic reform.

    12:40 am

    Kayleigh McEnany on CNN says voters want their government back from the elite. Trump was a voice for the people.
    Eugene Robinson on MSNBC affirms that Trump’s presidency seems like it is from another planet. Says that Trump did not expand his base to people of color.
    Clinton projected winner in NV by NY Times.
    Tom Brokaw on NBC says in his travels he didn’t find passionate Trump support, but he did find strong antagonism toward the Clintons and them getting back in the white house.
    Gayle King says it still could go either way, but calls for congratulations for what Trump has accomplished, that it was a remarkable feat.

    12:41 am

    Byron Pitts on ABC says he is confused because on paper Clinton was prepared to be president and Trump was just a white guy with a haircut.
    ABC looks at WI and MI again and sees Clinton starting to run out of Democrat areas.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC cuts away to a live feed of Doris Kearns Goodwin, who has not been told she is on the air, and a make-up artist is seen applying her makeup.
    Susannah Guthrie on NBC points to the fact that so many thought of Clinton as a liar and untrustworthy being a factor. Guthrie, and Wallace agree that gender was not an issue in the election.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS asks if the Democrat Party will survive.

    12:42 am

    Van Jones on CNN says the election result is a nightmare. He says you tell your kids not to be a bigot, so how do you tell the election result to your children? He says the election was a white-lash against a black president.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC says there is a big development in PA as Trump’s lead has suddenly jumped to 26,000 votes over Clinton. He looks at the map to see if Trump can hold the lead, and Lebanon County has yet to put any votes into the total, so he expects Trump to gain more.
    Monica Crowley on Fox News points out that Trump had less money, a skeletal campaign and he is pulling this off.

    12:43 am

    Terry Moran on ABC says of Paul Ryan “Good luck” in regards to keeping his Speakership.
    John Dickerson on CBS updates viewers on Lebanon County PA. Now Trump is ahead by 26,000 votes statewide because Lebanon has reported its votes. Scott Pelley mentions that Russia tried to help Trump by hacking Clinton, so he goes to their reporter in Moscow where the sun is just coming up, and she says the news Trump is ahead will go down well here in Moscow, because they think they can do business with Trump.
    Fox News notices that Trump has taken the lead in PA.

    12:44 am

    Chuck Todd says the National Rifle Association came through big for Trump, and they just purchased a Supreme Court seat.

    12:45 am

    Van Jones on CNN says Clinton put down a rebellion in her party by defeating Sanders, and says people are going to need to work together now that Trump appears to be winning.

    12:46 am

    Bob Schieffer on CBS warns that the Japanese are going to worry about what happens next in the wake of a Trump victory.
    Chris Stirewalt and Brit Hume on Fox News mention that polling does have a margin of error and the national polls really were not that far off, given their expectation that Clinton might take the lead in popular vote.

    12:47 am

    James Carville on NBC says the Clinton campaign did everything they felt they could, and all the Democrat vote got out. But it was not enough. She didn’t have that direct message that would appeal to people, and she has been in politics all her life and that is not a popular profession right now. Chuck Todd interrupts to say to Carville “there is the important question candidates have to answer, ‘Why do you want to be president?’” Todd says he bugged the campaign about this question, and he asked Clinton herself, and the final answer was ‘We’re Stronger together’ to which Todd says, that is a sentiment, not an idea. Todd asserts that she never had a good answer to the question, and Carville dodged his attempt to explain her position, saying the country has multiple problems to address and there is not one simple thing she could do. Carville concludes that the power of Trump’s message overcame the power of a turnout operation.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS says it appears Trump is opening a lead in PA, and John Dickerson says Clinton cannot win without PA, and does not see a path for her to recover due to her areas already reported in. He says Clinton did better than Obama in Philadelphia.
    CNN panelists all agree that blaming Comey is not adequate. Paul Begala describes it as a plate-tectonic shift, and Democrat analysts who say it is just the washing machine are wrong.

    12:48 am

    MSNBC looks again into the Javits Center and Katy Tur says the mood is somber. Some have left in tears. One said grief is setting in. There is shocked, stunned, disbelief. The voters are shocked by what they are seeing. One voter interviewed says she just wants to go underground. Her top concern is that she won’t have access to a doctor. She thinks healthcare will get worse in the country.
    Juan Williams on Fox News does not expect Trump to show any humility.

    12:49 am

    ABC checks PA and finds Trump ahead by excess of 50,000 votes. He continues to lead in MI and WI.

    12:50 am

    Matthew Dowd on ABC says the data was wrong. He is astounded at the historic nature of the election.

    12:51 am

    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks again at PA, where Lebanon County has finally come in, adding 20,000 more votes as a net gain for Trump. He now has a 35,000 vote lead statewide, with just a scattered number of votes left in the state. He then shows how Clinton trails by 90,000 in WI and she is trailing in MI, but would need to win PA, WI and MI to have a path to 270.

    12:52 am

    CNN reports that Trump’s lead in WI has grown to 90,000 votes with 15% remaining statewide. Milwaukee is now in and it barely moved the needle, and of what is left, there is nowhere near what she needs. He suggests WI is all but over.
    Steve Karnacki looks at AZ and sees little hope there for Clinton. He also says Trump has a sizable lead in ME_02 as well as NE_02. Her only path, Karnacki says, is a “rust-belt miracle.”
    NBC looks at the remaining status too close to call. Trump leads MI by 55,750 votes with 77% reported, and Chuck Todd says a ton of votes to come yet from Ann Arbor, so there is a path for her there. Trump leads WI by 89,850 votes with 85% reported, Todd says the unknown number of absentees in Milwaukee the reason they have not called it; Trump leads NH by 536 votes with 81% reported.
    John Dickerson says Trump turned out his vote. He also points to the third party millennial vote that hurt Clinton. Rural vote also helped Trump.

    12:53 am

    Scott Pelley on CBS says black voters in MI were asked if they had the same enthusiasm they did for Obama and they said no.
    John King on CNN says MI hasn’t changed much. A comeback is still possible for Clinton, but Trump’s lead has been persistent.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox news goes off against Trump and lists all the groups of people who are scared of him, Muslims, women, immigrants, and Hispanics. Juan Williams agreed.

    12:54 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC recounts how Libertarian vice-presidential candidate Weld provided a list of scathing criticisms of Trump, but he failed to throw an endorsement to Clinton and now Johnson-Weld voters have thrown the election to Trump.

    12:55 am

    CNN reports Clinton has retaken lead in NH. However, the two largest population centers left went for Romney in 2012.
    Ruth Marcus on CBS says there may be a call for a recount of the election results.

    12:56 am

    CNN reports that Trump leads in PA by about 50,000 votes with 96% reporting. John King looks at the counties and asks rhetorically if there are enough votes out there for Clinton to close the gap and says, “I don’t know, but I don’t see it.”
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News is shocked at the Evangelical vote coming out so strongly for Trump.

    12:57 am

    Doris Kearns Goodwin is finally interviewed by Brian Williams on MSNBC, and she says the ground game did not matter, and we underestimated the people who felt they were left behind. But the country is polarized, and people will wonder if it was legitimate. What worries her is that neither candidate is trusted. The results of the election will not bring unity. One thing that is good is that people have voted. Goodwin compares the election to Teddy Roosevelt’s appeal and the mood of voters at the turn of the 20th century.

    12:58 am

    Corey Lewandowsi on CNN says Trump represented fundamental change in Washington, DC.

  459. DW says:

    1:00-2:00: Hour of Complaining

    The media had time on its hands during this hour. Nothing was being called, but Trump’s leads were holding. So during this hour the coverage involved bitter complainers in the media lashing out at voters, each other, James Comey, Russia, or even Clinton’s lack of appeal or strategy. Some media analysts pushed hard the idea that the remaining states could not be called due to the possibility of absentee ballots. However, both the NY Times and the Associated Press called PA for Trump during this hour, at 1:46, but it would take another hour for others to call it.

    1:00 am

    AK too early to call according to all networks.
    ABC looks at remaining states and finds Clinton has taken slight lead in NH. 96% reported in PA and Trump still with a 50,000 vote lead. 77% reported in MI but Trump still with a 59,000 vote lead in MI. Trump with solid leads in WI and AZ. Trump way ahead in Maine’s 2nd Congressional district.
    NBC and MSNBC look again at the states not yet called. Trump leading in PA by 46,704 with 96% reported; Trump leading in MI by 59,569 votes with 77% reported; Trump leading in AZ by 60,848 votes with 65% reported; Trump leads in WI by 84,225 votes with 87% reported; Clinton leads in MN by 78,467 votes with 79% reported; Clinton leading in NH by 96 votes with 82% of the vote reported, and in Maine Clinton leading by 17,119 with 81% of the vote reported.

    1:01 am

    Lester Holt says Clinton has to run the table to win. Chuck Todd agrees and says he has run out of ways for her to get enough votes to recover in PA. The same for WI. It is game, set, match with those states.
    Scott Pelley on CBS says Trump has numerical leads in all five of the remaining battleground states. Gayle King says the cake was baked a month ago.
    CNN shows images from the campaign headquarters including despondent Clinton supporters.

    1:02 am

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC: “It doesn’t look good for Clinton.” Steve Schmidt agrees with Matthews.
    CBS surveys the remaining battleground states: Trump leads PA 2,805,821 to 2,757,264 (48% to 47%) with 97% reported. Trump leads MI 1,861,480 to 1,802,228 (48% to 46%) with 77% reported. Trump leads WI 48% to 46% with 87% reported. Trump leads AZ 49% to 45% with 65% of the vote reported. NH is tied 47% each with 82% reported.

    1:03 am

    Bret Baier and Bill Hemmer on Fox News look at key states and find Trump’s lead in PA has been slowly growing. His lead in MI has also been growing.
    ABC reports from Javits Center: “Bewilderment” and “Shell-shocked” are the words to describe the mood there. It was supposed to be a party and the people there do not know what is happening or what to expect. Complete silence from Clinton campaign. Key donors of Clinton say race is over.
    Chuck Todd recounts the things that Clinton supporters are going to be complaining about after tonight.
    CBS looks at MN for the first time and finds Clinton leading only 1,106,299 to 1,031,611 (47% to 44%) with 80% reported. John Dickerson says Trump’s people found the voters they wanted and their strategy has paid off despite the polling and traditional political assessment tools.

    1:04 am

    Van Jones on CNN says Trump should be held to his promises for urban renewal, says people around the world are laughing and are appalled. Says Russia got away with hacking Democrats to harm Clinton.
    Stephanie Cutter, Democrat strategist on ABC says, “We all got it wrong.” She admits democrat campaign didn’t listen to those voters—especially the male vote.
    James Carville on NBC says the result tonight is an “utter disaster” for Democrats, saying they will have no power after losing the House, Senate and Presidency.
    Bret Baier and Bill Hemmer on Fox News seem unable to work the math on the Electoral Vote scenarios. At one point Baier points to Maine and says Clinton is up in New Hampshire. Hemmer corrects him. But they never could get the facts right, that all Trump needed was AZ, AK, and ME_02 to reach 269.

    1:05 am

    Eugene Robinson on NBC is critical of Trump’s campaign for not being a rainbow coalition. Robinson also concerned about the message of Trump’s supporters saying they wanted to “take our country back.”
    Bob Schieffer on CBS calls for a look at ME and so CBS pulls it up on the screen to find Clinton leading 47% to 45% with 81% reported. Gayle King on CBS asks John Dickerson what went wrong on the Clinton team given its reputation as a powerhouse political machine. Dickerson puts the blame on Clinton herself.

    1:06 am

    Clinton projected winner in ME (3, 218) by Fox News. Finally, after several minutes of fumbling with the numbers, Bret Baier and Bill Hemmer realize that Clinton would need to win AZ or AK to win.
    Tom Brokaw on NBC is harshly critical of Trump’s behavior and complains about the vulgarity on the campaign trail.

    1:07 am

    Bill Kristol on ABC says we have never seen anything like this. Suggests Paul Ryan may not be Speaker of the House.
    Susannah Guthrie on NBC says Trump is the total opposite of the cerebral Barack Obama.

    1:08 am

    Trump projected winner in UT by CNN. The electoral tally is now Trump 244, Clinton 215.
    James Carville on NBC complains about the fact that Trump got his foreign policy knowledge from watching TV.

    1:09 am

    CNN provided another update of states not called: Trump leading by 77,183 votes, 48.4% to 46.5%, in MI with 80% reported; Trump leads WI by 84,637 votes, 49% to 45.8%, with 87% reported; Trump leads by 60,870 votes, 49.3% to 45.7%, in AZ with 65% reported; Trump leads by 50,931 votes, 48.7% to 47.8%, in PA with 97% in; Clinton ahead 700 votes, 47.5% to 47.4%, in NH with 85% reporting; Clinton leading in ME by 16,769 votes, 47.9% to 45.1%, with 81% in, and Clinton leading in MN by 71,321 votes, 47.6% to 44.6%, with 84% reported.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says voters who were made fun of said they would not vote for those who made fun of them.
    NBC confirms that Hillary Clinton is still in her Peninsula hotel room with campaign advisors Podesta, Mook, Huma Abedin, along with Bill and Chelsea. The Javits Center was so jubilant early in the night, but the mood gradually deflated, and there is doubt over whether anyone will speak tonight.

    1:10 am

    Fox News surveys states not yet called showing where in each state there are still too many uncertainties.
    MSNBC report from the White House grounds finds Clinton supporters still hopefully, but worried about Trump becoming president. Another Clinton supporter shocked that even just five hours earlier everyone thought Clinton would win. Another supporter blames the DNC for not giving Sanders a chance.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS points out that the race is so close that the election could go either way. Scott Pelley responds to O’Donnell that it could go either way, but there are more ways for Trump than for Clinton. John Dickerson agrees that the election looks good for Trump because WI, PA and MI have numbers growing in his favor.

    1:11 am

    Jake Tapper on CNN talks about the ‘outsider’ campaign that Trump ran. Tapper’s reaction to the most recent update of numbers suggests he believes the election to be over.

    1:12 am

    CNN’s Dana Bash is in touch with the Trump campaign and says Trump is finishing his victory speech and he will be gracious and will talk about coming together and reach out to those who did not vote for him. As Bash speaks, John King is seen in the background still trying to work out a way for Clinton to reach 270, as he has the map showing a 269-268 race.

    1:13 am

    Fox News reports that Maine’s 2nd congressional district looks like it is going to Trump, but they cannot call it just yet.
    Frank Luntz on CBS says the results were inconceivable five hours ago and there should be a ban on exit polling, as their numbers were all wrong. There was a hidden Trump vote of people who would not admit it to pollsters. Luntz tells Charlie Rose that he has looked at the counties and he believes Trump has won and will be the next president.

    1:14 am

    Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC points out that even Joe Biden was out on the campaign trail along with the Obamas, but it wasn’t enough. Steve Karnacki looks at PA and sees no way she can win PA. MI does show a lot of votes yet out of Detroit. In WI, Karnacki says Milwaukee and Madison is there not enough votes to overcome the deficit.
    NBC interviews Doris Kearns Goodwin who agrees with Lester Holt that Trump has no experience unlike any other candidate. She says the parties have lost their power due to the primaries. The power has moved to the people. Goodwin says we may not know who we are getting with Trump. She also hopes Trump will have enough self-reflection to know his weaknesses to put good people around him. Peggy Noonan on CBS says the night is both a political and spiritual event for millions. Noonan says a close friend who is a big Trump supporter knew it was over at 9:00 pm and he burst into tears.

    1:15 am

    The PBS reporter at the Javits Center Clinton campaign headquarters learned from the convention center management that the Clinton campaign must clear the hall by 2 am due to the change-over needed for a convention held by the National Association of Broadcasters beginning at 8:30 am.
    Michael Gerson on CBS says it was a victory for Trump as opposed to a rejection for Clinton because his voters got out to the polls. He calls it one of the largest political upsets in American history.

    1:16 am

    ABC reports from Times Square, says it is all quiet. It was a huge Clinton crowd, and they are in shock. One Clinton supporter says it is now a lost cause. Reporter says it is hard to find Trump supporters in Times Square.
    Frank Luntz on CBS says “mark my words…the [anti-Trump] protests will grow.”

    1:17 am

    Savannah Guthrie on NBC says Trump has reversed himself on most issues and so perhaps the weight of the presidency would affect him positively. Tom Brokaw disagrees saying Trump celebrates himself and loves getting attention. Guthrie says she wants to believe the best of someone about to be president, but the other panelists interrupt her and shout her down.
    Anthony Salvanto on CBS says the reason the rust belt states are uncalled relates to the unknown number of absentee ballots in each state. Salvanto says nationally there are record-breaking turnouts, but this favors Trump as the surge is from rural areas. He goes on to tell Scott Pelley that Clinton’s path involves sweeping MN, WI, MI and PA, whereas Trump only needs to one or two states other than AZ which he is expected to win.
    Carl Cameron reporting for Fox News at Trump headquarters says the word there is ‘impatient’ and no one has left the hall. They are particularly interested in when PA will be called.

    1:18 am

    David Alexrod on CNN reminds viewers that Paul Ryan had distanced himself from Trump.

    1:19 am

    Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin says Clinton campaign staff is in tears, Javits Center has partly emptied out. The mood is very somber. The lower level staff are despondent.
    Ken Salazar, leading Clinton’s transition team, was seen looked very somber.

    1:20 am

    James Carville on NBC warns there are real consequences as the result of Trump winning.
    David Alexrod on CNN talks about people accepting the results of the election.

    1:21 am

    Brian Williams reminds viewers there are 8 states yet to call, but Trump with the much easier path.
    Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace on Fox News discuss the role Anthony Wiener had in Clinton’s loss.

    1:22 am

    Guest analyst on MSNBC sees the Comey announcement as responsible for Republican women leaving Hillary for Trump.
    Norah O’Donnell says the election is closer than the 2000 presidential election.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News says Clinton has only herself to blame for the e-mail problem.

    1:23 am

    ABC projects Toomey winner over McGinty in PA senate race.
    NBC reporter Peter Alexander from the Hilton Trump campaign headquarters says a source inside Trump tower describes the scene there as euphoric, hugs, and high-fives. Alexander confirms that a top official says Speaker Ryan has made a congratulatory phone call to Donald Trump. He goes on to say that WI surprised even the Trump campaign according to campaign officials.

    1:24 am

    CNN provides another look at uncalled states: Trump leads by 72,072 votes in MI, 48.3% to 46.5%, with 81% in; Trump leads by 87,173 votes, 49% to 45.8%, in WI with 88% reported; Trump ahead 64,301 votes, 49% to 45.6%, in AZ with 65% reported; Trump leads in PA by 58,782 votes, 48.7% to 47.7%, with 97% reported; Clinton leads by 3,572 votes, 47.7% to 47.2%, in NH with 87% reported; she leads in ME by 17,441 votes, 48% to 45.1% with 84% reported; 66,330 votes, 47.5% to 44.8%, in MN with 85% in, and Trump leads in AK by 13,529 votes, 53.4% to 38.3%, with 28% reporting.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS again affirms that states cannot be called due to the possibilities of absentee ballots.

    1:25 am

    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks again at exit polling, Trump won white college graduate voters 49/45, better than expected. The Latino vote went 29% for Trump, so he did better than Romney by a net of 8 points.

    1:26 am

    John King on CNN again says Clinton got nowhere what she needed out of Milwaukee, and there are almost no votes out there left in blue counties. Dane county has a little left, but King is ‘very skeptical’ it is enough to close the gap.

    1:27 am

    Fox News projects Toomey winner over McGinty in PA senate race, and with this win, the Republicans will retain control of the Senate. Fox News also reports that MO Senate candidate Kander has conceded to Blunt.
    John King on CNN says Clinton needs a miracle out of Detroit to close the gap.

    1:28 am

    Fox news reports Speaker Ryan made a congratulatory phone call to Trump and Pence. 7:30:12
    CNN’s John King uses the words ‘unlikely’ and ‘improbable’ to describe Clinton’s chances in WI and MI. He is skeptical that the Clinton campaign promise for a cache of votes out of Detroit still remains after their promise in Milwaukee failed to come through. King says Clinton needs a miracle out of Wayne County in MI.

    1:29 am

    John King on CNN says Trump’s people believe PA is done. There is basically nothing left in Democrat areas to close the sizeable gap, which is about 60,000.
    Kasie Hunt on MSNBC says her contacts with Bernie Sanders say Sanders is saddened by a looming Trump win, but seems to expect a sort of “I told you so.”

    1:30 am

    ABC looks at the uncalled states and finds Clinton with a 4,000 vote lead in NH. Trump holding 70,000 vote lead in MI, Trump leading in PA by 60,000 votes.
    Mike Murphy on MSNBC says his “crystal ball has been shattered into atoms.” He went on to say ‘data died’ tonight.
    NBC reports from the area in front of the White House where it used to be mostly Clinton supporters but now a few Trump supporters have shown up.
    CBS looks at some of the remaining states and finds Trump ahead 2,823,741 to 2,764,959 in PA with 97% reported; Trump leads WI 1,344,858 to Clinton’s 1,258,026 (48% to 45%) with 89% reported.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says Jeff Sessions could get any job he wants in the Trump administration.

    1:31 am

    Brit Hume on Fox News credits Conway for Trump’s success late in the campaign.
    ABC reports from Trump campaign headquarters and says supporters there are growing impatient. They report that Speaker Ryan made a phone call with Trump and Pence.
    John Dickerson says Trump has succeeded tonight by running up the score in the rural areas.

    1:32 am

    Chris Wallace on Fox News mentions speculation that Reince Preibus could be Trump’s Chief of Staff.
    John Dickerson ponders how Trump had all the media, entertainers, and Clinton spending against him. Norah O’Donnell agrees that there was a large 500 million dollar advantage between Clinton and Trump.
    Dana Perino on Fox News credits Mitch McConnell for not confirming Obama’s Supreme Court pick.

    1:33 am

    On CNN Trump’s former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski says the election is over and Trump has won.
    Lester Holt on NBC looks for encouragement from Chuck Todd by saying to him that some may think we are talking like this is a foregone conclusion, but there is still a path for Hillary Clinton. Todd replies “it’s very narrow. I mean I’ll be honest, I don’t see…there’s two things, two problems she’s got, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin…both of them look like they are trending Trump.” Todd goes on to clarify that WI seems totally out of reach. PA looks tough because there is no more in Philadelphia. Holt asks if we think we know where this is going, and Todd agrees.

    1:34 am

    Richard Engel on NBC says assuming Trump wins, it is catastrophic for our country and our position in the world. Trump provokes a constitutional crisis. We will not be leading the world. Russia and China will have a strong hand. He says the military worries over whether or not they will have to obey immoral orders from Trump.
    Nancy Cordes reports from Clinton headquarters and says she just spoke to a Democrat strategist close to the campaign, and he said no one is considering this over just yet, but they are not delusional either. The strategist brought up James Comey as a figure who influenced the result.

    1:35 am

    Report from Trump headquarters on ABC finds voters excited, positive, and upbeat. One voter interviewed says she was not at all surprised he would win.
    Megyn Kelly chastises Juan Williams on Fox News over Obama’s executive orders, launching a quick debate over balance of power between the executive office and legislative branch.

    1:36 am

    Richard Engel affirms without a doubt Russia was deeply involved in undermining Hillary Clinton. Lester Holt says it is speculation, and Engel doesn’t back down, it is not my speculation. Nancy Cordes on CBS believes Bernie Sanders damaged Clinton because he repeatedly tied her Wall Street.

    1:37 am

    MSNBC visits both campaign headquarters and sees the red hats at the Trump headquarters, but the scene at the Javits Center with its lavish staging, where they had planned for fireworks, is a very different scene. MSNBC reporter Katy Tur at Trump headquarters says her source indicates he is waiting to hit 270 before speaking. Tur loses composure briefly and recounts a list of Clinton campaign talking points, calling into question Trump’s tax records, Muslim ban, etc.
    Charlie Rose on CBS lists all the impressive surrogates Clinton had campaigning for her, to no avail.
    Van Jones on CNN says he had warned Democrats that Trump was dangerous as a candidate due to his understanding of how to use social media.

    1:38 am

    Trump projected winner in PA (20; 274) by the Associated Press.
    The combined calls of projected winners by all major news sources has put Trump over 270 electoral votes.
    ABC says Kellyanne Conway tweeting out victory lap comments.

    1:39 am

    Terry Moran on ABC says Russia is a big winner tonight. ABC mentions some International congratulations are starting to roll in.
    Richard Engel on NBC complains about the worldwide trend of fringe candidates being able to appeal directly to the people and winning elections. Suggests people do not know enough to choose their leaders. Chuck Todd says to Engel that he is painting a scary picture. Nicolle Wallace appeals to the hope that men like John McCain will be a check on Trump.
    Scott Pelley on CBS says it is still a possibility for a 269-269 tie. The CBS panel discusses this but fail to look at any of the actual data. Norah O’Donnell pushes hard the narrative that they are waiting for absentee ballots.

    1:40 am While MSNBC reporter Katy Tur at the Javits Center continues to complain about Trump, his supporters in the background are heard chanting, “Call it, call it, call it.”
    Chris Stirewalt on Fox News thinks some Democrats might have stayed home assuming Clinton would win.

    1:41 am Trump projected winner in AK (3; 277) by CNN. The current CNN tally is Trump 247, Clinton 215.
    MSNBC projects Blunt winner over Kander in MO senate race.
    Juan Williams and Chris Wallace go at it on Fox News after Williams blames Wiki-leaks and Russia for Clinton’s defeat.
    CNN provides another key race alert: Trump ahead in MI by 79,144 votes, 48.4% to 46.5%, with 84% in; Trump ahead in WI by 86,488 votes, 48.9% to 45.8%, with 89% in; Trump leads AZ by 61,959 votes, 49.3% to 45.7%, with 66% in; Trump leads PA by 76,552 votes, 48.9% to 47.6%, with 97% in; Clinton leads NH by 3,781 votes, 47.8% to 47.2%, with 87% in; Clinton leads ME Clinton leads 18,094 votes, 48% to 45.1%, with 86% in; and Clinton leads MN by 56,840 votes, 47.2% to 45%, with 87% of the vote in.
    CNN’s Jake Tapper points out that Trump did better among Latinos in several battleground states than Romney did.
    CBS confirms that Paul Ryan called Trump to congratulate him.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News tells Juan Williams that even if the Russians were involved, which is not good, that didn’t force Donna Brazille to give Clinton the debate questions.

    1:42 am Steve Karnacki finds Trump still leading national popular vote, but he expects CA to put Clinton ahead eventually.
    Chip Reed, CBS’s reporter at the Paul Ryan campaign headquarters confirms his assignment to work in WI weeks ago was to cover the battle between Trump and Paul Ryan, not Trump versus Clinton. WI was not considered a battleground state.
    Chris Wallace and Juan Williams have a bitter exchange on Fox News over Wiki-leaks. Monica Crowley on Fox News points to the red map of the USA and says this is a complete repudiation of Obama.
    Richard Engel on NBC again insists Trump did not win it on his own, that Russia was involved.

    1:43 am

    Tom Brokaw suggest the presidency is extremely complex and he doesn’t know if Trump is up for it.
    Scott Pelley says the senate Democrats have failed to pick up enough seats to gain control, and so the senate will remain in Republican hands.
    While Dana Bash on CNN speaks, the camera is at an angle showing a board in the background revealing the GOP leads the senate race 48 seats to 46 seats, a reminder that CNN has dropped all senate and house coverage hours earlier when they realized the presidential race was close.

    1:44 am

    Andrea Mitchell at the Clinton headquarters reports for NBC and she says the Clinton campaign has gone really silent. She says the building is not supposed to be open all night. She says Clinton doesn’t want to make the mistake Al Gore did when he conceded too soon and then had to take it back. She does say that Clinton needs to make a concession speech due to her questioning of Trump and his unwillingness to say he would concede.
    Dana Perino on Fox News wonders how Obama will interact with Trump given the campaigning Obama did against Trump.

    1:45 am

    Wolf Blitzer points out the Clinton ‘deplorable’ comment did not help her. Dana Bash agrees, recalling how Hillary was saying in essence their voices do not matter—exactly the message Trump reached them with.
    MSNBC interviews a Republican pollster and a Democrat pollster. The Republican believes they got it generally right, just missed the margins. The Democrat pollster believed the results are all within the margin of polling error. However, he says Clinton did not do as well among Latinos and other key groups.
    Megyn Kelly on Fox News talks about how she and Trump put their differences behind them.

    1:46 am

    Trump projected winner in PA by NY Times.
    Charlie Gibson on ABC says we are in unchartered waters. He predicts Trump will not be very conciliatory in his remarks after winning.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says that other news organizations have called PA for Trump, but NBC hasn’t called it because it is close. He says Clinton needs a miracle at this point.
    Andrea Mitchell on NBC reports that Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta has let the hotel and is headed over to the Javits Center. Mitchell says Clinton campaign does need to come out and say something.

    1:47 am

    Chuck Todd on NBC says he spoke to a Clinton source who says there may be some irregularities. Susannah Guthrie and Nicolle Wallace have exchange over whether or not Clinton would concede after she had called out Trump for not being willing to concede.
    CBS panel experts discuss how Trump would act as president.
    Karl Rove on Fox News says Newt Gingrich told him before election day that Trump had a two out of three chance of winning.

    1:48 am

    Chuck Todd says this is the modern day “Dewey Defeats Truman.” Lester Holt says the media was on the ballot as much as anyone else, because of the perception of media bias.

    1:49 am

    Matthew Dowd on ABC says Trump is a Somali pirate.
    Major Garrett at Trump headquarters says the crowd there was chanting, ‘call it, call it” because they believe they are on the cusp of victory. Garrett says Republican leaders are looking forward to seeing Trump leaning heavily on Mike Pence, who they see as a bridge.

    1:50 am

    Fox News reports Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta is headed to the Javits Center and Mrs. Clinton was not going with him. Brit Hume further speculates that this means the election is over, as PA has been called by the Associated Press and the NY Times.

    1:51 am

    MSNBC projects Toomey winner over McGinty in PA senate race. Chris Matthew expresses surprise and dismay over PA, saying that voters there were concerned about the Supreme Court, explaining why Trump is winning there and thereby helped Toomey. He went on to say his source said Clinton would have to win by 4 points there for McGinty to defeat Toomey.
    CBS confirms John Podesta has left the Peninsula hotel and is headed to the Javits Center.
    CBS finds Trump still ahead in PA 2,881,135 to 2,806,513. O’Donnell gushes that the gap in PA has narrowed since they last looked at it, even though the opposite is true, with Trump’s margin growing by about 15,000 since they last looked at it. Trump leads in MI 2,076,061 to 2,007,480 with 86% reported. Trump also leads in AZ 864,289 to 796,517 with 67% reported. Trump also leads WI 1,361,974 to 1,276,826 with 90% reported. Clinton now leads in NH, 304,198 to 300,763 with 87% reported.
    Jennifer Griffin reporting for Fox News at the Clinton campaign headquarters confirms that John Podesta will be taking the stage shortly. She has no speculation as to what John Podesta might say, and there is a possibility Clinton will not speak tonight.

    1:52 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC complains about the “radical” decision by senate Republicans to deny Obama his Supreme court pick upon the death of Scalia. She does not recall that the decision to deny was made based on precedent set down by Democrats. She says Roe vs. Wade is at risk, and Obamacare can be repealed.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says some voters just swooned for Trump like they did for Obama. It was the ‘in’ thing to do, and Clinton never captured anyone’s imagination. Her campaign was a grind.
    Susannah Guthrie points to the fact that people appreciated Trump’s honestly.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says that in the third debate he asked Trump if he would accept the results of the election, but “I never asked Clinton…an oversight.”

    1:53 am

    CNN provides another key race alert: Trump ahead in MI by 70,373 votes, 48.2% to 46.6%, with 85% in; Trump ahead in WI by 85,661 votes, 48.9% to 45.8% with 90% in; Trump leads AZ by 67,772 votes, 49.5% to 45.6%, with 67% in; Trump ahead 74,662 votes, 48.9% to 47.6% in PA with 97% reported; Clinton leads NH by 3,445 votes, 47.7% to 47.2% with 87% in; Clinton leads ME Clinton leads 19,349 votes, 48% to 45% with 88% in; and Clinton leads MN by 40,639 votes, 46.9% to 45.3%, with 88% of the vote in.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News speculates that Podesta likely to say it’s a long night and we are not going to know anything.
    Brian Williams cuts into MSNBC coverage to go to the Javits Center where Kristen Welker tells him that John Podesta will be coming to the podium shortly to speak. She says the Clinton campaign has gone dark for the last hour. When Podesta left the Peninsula Hotel, reporters asked him if he had any reaction to the election results, and he said he had none. They asked then if he was going to the Javits Center and he confirmed that he was going over but Clinton was not. People have left the Javits in tears, they are in stunned disbelief.
    NBC projects Toomey winner over McGinty in PA senate race.
    NBC projects Blunt winner over Kander in MO senate race.
    John Dickerson describes Clinton’s chances in very long-shot terminology.

    1:54 am

    Tom Brokaw on NBC asks the panel that anyone who thought that this night would be a slam dunk for Republican to raise their hands.
    Jennifer Griffin on Fox News says she did ask the question of Clinton on the airplane after the third debate, if she would accept the results, and everyone including Clinton laughed it off and she never answered the question.
    Megyn Kelly talks about the lack of news media access to Clinton during the campaign. She came off as secretive, like she had something to hide.

    1:55 am

    CNN’s Jeff Zeleny at Clinton headquarters reports that the campaign has turned off the election coverage for the last several hours. There a somber mood, and John Podesta is on the way to give some sort of announcement and Clinton is not joining him to speak at this moment. Top Democrats realize she is not likely going to be the next president.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS reports that John Podesta will speak at the Javits Center and say it is too close to call.
    Gayle King responds, “is it too close to call or not wanting to accept reality?”

    1:56 am

    John King on CNN says there is nothing left to help Clinton in PA. He has been looking for hours, he says, but he cannot find any help for her in PA. He reports a modest lead for Trump in MI is still stubborn. Wayne County is 98% reported in. There are not enough votes left to give a path to her. WI is same situation with Milwaukee at 99% of the vote. Dane county has some left, but King says, “if you are in the Clinton war-room you are hoping against hope—hoping against math really.”
    Chris Wallace on Fox News pointed out how Clinton bungled the response to the e-mail investigation.
    Bret Baier on Fox News reads a tweet from Kellyanne Conway, who listed things that were true: An undercover Trump vote, Hillary’s floor and ceiling are the same, rally crowds matter, and “we expanded the map.”

    1:57 am

    Katy Tur at the Trump headquarters says months ago their chances were one in ten, but their chances grew as time went on. She goes on to remind voters that Trump had criticized John McCain but did not drop in the polls, that is when it seemed he would move forward and he was a serious contender.

  460. DW says:

    2:00-3:00: Hour of Concession

    The top of the hour started the end of the election with John Podesta’s strange speech, then the news that Trump was going to the Hilton to speak, followed by Clinton’s concession call and Trump’s victory speech. Interestingly, only the

    2:00 am

    Clinton projected winner in ME by NY Times, NBC, and CBS. Trump projected winner of the 2nd Congressional District (1; 278) of ME by NBC. Scott Pelley on CBS specifically says they are projecting Clinton receives 4 electoral votes from ME, not interacting at all with the possibility that Trump might get 1 of them.
    Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin reports they have confirmed that Hillary Clinton will not be speaking to her supporters at the Javits Center. Griffin takes from this news that Clinton is not ready to concede. Bret Baier reflects on the irony that Democrats had so much concern that Donald Trump might not accept the results, and yet now Clinton is not prepared to concede.
    CNN’s Jim Acosta at Trump campaign headquarters says they are chanting ‘Lock her up,’ and indication that it will be hard to bring the country together. Acosta then recounts all the flaws of Trump on the campaign trail.
    Steve Schmidt says the election is a massive repudiation of Clinton, and Republicans will have 100% of power in Washington.

    2:01 am

    ABC news reporter at the Javits Center says Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta will speak soon to say the race is too close to call, and the campaign supporters need to clear the hall by 2:05 am, but they are going to hold it open a little longer for people to exit.
    James Carville on MSNBC felt the part of the Clinton campaign that argued the GOTV machine was all-important will be criticized. Trump’s message was simple and to the point.

    2:02 am

    John Podesta begins his 1 minute, 45 second speech, telling the Clinton supporters all the votes must be counted, and that everyone should go home, nothing more will be said tonight. Podesta says “She is not done yet.”
    Chicago Tribune reported that by the time Podesta took the stage, there were only about 150 Clinton supporters left in the huge outdoor pens that once held thousands of people expecting to see the first woman elected president. Custodians were sweeping up as Podesta spoke.

    2:04 am

    ABC’s George Stephanopoulos points out that Podesta had nothing more to say tonight because he has nothing good to say.
    David Axelrod on CNN, immediately after the Podesta speech says he is not surprised by the delay, saying that we don’t “know her state of mind right now.” [It was reported later via social media by a CNN reporter as well as a secret service agent that she was partly intoxicated, angry, and not of appropriate deportment to appear on stage.]
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is surprised that Clinton will not speak tonight given that the remaining states are not that far from being called.
    Andrea Mitchell responds to Podesta’s speech saying that she understand how hard it must be for Clinton to concede given her scathing criticisms of Trump being unfit for office, but it is remarkable that she will not speak given her challenge to Trump to accept the results.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says Trump should come out and claim victory in that he is leading in PA, MI and WI, and he only needs two of the three. Todd says their data guy says he has run out of a path for her to carry MI. He says Wayne County didn’t come out. Steve Schmidt says he hopes he doesn’t come out and claim victory.
    Gayle King on CBS says not only did Clinton have a victory speech prepared, she also had fireworks planned, but this was canceled this week. King and Schieffer discuss concession, and the irony that everyone expected Trump to not concede.

    2:05 am
    Fox News explains how unknown absentee votes prevent them from calling PA. The Fox News graphic showing the results in PA had a glitch, showing only 67% of the vote in PA counted, when earlier it had shown 97%.
    Jonathan Karl on ABC says she is behind in all three of the big states, and sees no realistic path for her.
    Chuck Todd says it would be one thing if it was one state where they needed to find a county with more votes or a county error, but she needs it in three states.
    Katy Tur at Trump headquarters says the crowd is aware of what Podesta said as they watched it on the screen. The crowd in the background is chanting “Call it! Call it! Call it!”

    2:06 am

    Clinton projected winner in ME, Trump projected winner of the 2nd Congressional District by ABC.
    Fox News reports supporters at Trump campaign headquarters are impatient at the lack of projections for Trump victory.
    Charlie King on CBS says the Clinton team is delaying to evaluate ways they could challenge the results. Norah O’Donnell thinks it is extraordinary that we will not hear from Mrs. Clinton tonight. Nancy Cordes reports from the Javits Center saying people are leaving crying and stunned. Cordes says she looked more deeply into the numbers in WI to determine what is going on there and in Milwaukee County she finds the numbers are off 100,000 votes from four years ago.

    2:07 am

    Byron Pitts on ABC was a little surprised that Clinton not expected to speak. Says people are anxious and fearful, especially people of color.
    MSNBC shows video of crying Clinton supporters walking away from the Javits Center.
    NBC projects Republicans will retain control of the Unites States Senate.
    Fox News shows video of Clinton supporters filing out of the Javits Center.

    2:08 am

    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks at his computer to locate what the Clinton campaign sees that prompted their decision to hold off on conceding the election. He says in PA the remaining precincts are all in Democrat areas, but will gain her only 20,000 votes, which will close the gap down to about 50,000. He then says their decision desk will not call PA because of provisional ballots that may have to be hand counted. Karnacki finds Trump leading in WI by 85,000 votes, but they will not call it because Milwaukee County has more absentee ballots, and because they don’t know the count of these ballots they will not call the state. In Michigan it is still too close to call.
    Nancy Cordes on CBS reflects on the incredible ground game of the Clinton campaign and that they had all the money in the world, and yet had lackluster turnout in a place like Milwaukee County.
    Carl Cameron on Fox News at the Trump headquarters says supporters are very impatient.

    2:09 am

    Van Jones and Corey Lewandowski have nasty exchange on CNN over Clinton’s lack of appearing to concede election. Lewandowski says Clinton should speak. Jones says we should give her a break and listen to her in the morning.
    Cokie Roberts reports that at the women’s rights center in upstate NY had a large assembly there watching the returns, and now they are going to be bitterly disappointed.
    John Dickerson on CBS cannot understand why Clinton could be off 100,000 votes in Milwaukee compared to Obama but got about the same as Obama in Dane County (Madison).

    2:10 am

    NBC projects Murkowski winner in the AK senate race. NBC projects Republicans will control the United States Senate. Susannah Guthrie calls it a Republican night, where the GOP will hold the house, the senate and Donald Trump looks to be the president-elect.
    Corey Lewandowski reminds viewers that for weeks Trump was hounded about whether or not he would concede the election. Now it is Clinton who will not concede.
    MSNBC projects Murkowski winner in the AK senate race. MSNBC projects Republicans will control the United States Senate.
    CBS looks at PA and finds Trump still leading 2,886,089 to 2,810,592 with 99% reported. Scott Pelley says Trump now as a lead in all five remaining battleground states. This of course was not accurate, as by this point Clinton had taken the lead for good in NH.
    Karl Rove on Fox News thinks Trump’s campaign should send out someone to say the same as John Podesta. Chris Stirewalt agrees, warning that Trump should not go out and claim it.

    2:11 am

    Trump projected winner in AK by NBC.
    Charlie Gibson on ABC is deeply disturbed that after Podesta spoke, Trump supporters chanted “Lock Her Up.”
    NBC checks on PA and finds Trump leading by 75,944 votes with 97% reported, while in MI Trump leads by 82,781 votes with 88% reported. The NBC reporter from Grand Rapids, MI says voters there are ‘flabbergasted” at the direction the race has taken in favor of Trump.

    2:12 am

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC, upon being shown a live video feed of their decision desk workers, describes the scene as “a failed moonshot” control room.
    Fox News analysts agree that Trump should wait until Clinton concedes. Juan Williams thinks the Clinton campaign may be delaying so they can prepare legal challenges.

    2:13 am

    Nicolle Wallace says no one should read into what Podesta just did. All he was acknowledging tonight is there won’t be a result tonight. No one will know, though Wallace believes she will come up short. She also believes they will stay up at the Hilton.
    Major Garrett reporting from Trump headquarters says everyone is waiting for the moment Trump is declared the winner. He says the chant “Lock her up” keeps being heard in the hall. Garrett says he received a text from the former Republican Governor of PA who is certain Trump will win the state. Garrett says the Trump campaign is seeing rich irony in the fact that it is the Clinton team showing hesitancy about accepting the results of the election.

    2:14 am

    James Carville on MSNBC says he cannot imagine the shock among Clinton supporters. Nicolle Wallace says all thought it would be Trump not accepting the results at this hour, and it is a reversal. Rachel Maddow quickly cuts Wallace off to change the subject.
    Karl Rove on Fox News says if there were any legal challenges, the movement of the lawyers would be known on the news.

    2:15 am

    CNN analyst reveals that Trump’s analytics people said he would win WI, but the Trump team didn’t believe their own people.
    Susannah Guthrie on NBC compares the election to Brexit, as a rejection of establishment. Chuck Todd again stresses the urban versus rural divide in the electorate. She points to TX as a place where Clinton performed better than most democrats because she did so well in TX cities.

    2:16 am

    CNN breaks the news that Trump is on route to his campaign headquarters at the Hilton hotel. This action was in response to the Podesta speech. Trump moved over to the Hilton to continue to watch the election coverage there and claim victory without a Clinton concession, as soon as major news organizations projected his victory. [This was confirmed later by a CNN interview with Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who said, “we were already headed over to the Hilton to do what we had been doing all night long which is watch the returns, wait for all the states to be called, and eventually the next president-elect of the United States to be announced.”]
    ABC reports Trump is on the way to his victory party.
    Constitutional Law Professor Jonathan Turley on Fox News says Democrats will not be able to speak out against President Trump’s executive orders given Obama’s actions. Turley expressed shock when the President said he would act unilaterally and half of the house members stood up and cheered—cheered the moment they were made obsolete.

    2:17 am

    Trump projected winner in the 2nd Congressional District of ME by NY Times.
    Chris Matthews makes excuses for candidates being too tired to go out and give concession speeches. James Carville responds that candidates do owe it to their supporters to speak.

    2:18 am

    CNN analyst says John Kasich is likely to cancel a scheduled speech in Washington where he would refocus the direction of the Republican Party.
    CBS looks again at WI where Trump leads 1,385,524 to 1,309,965 with 92% reported. Also, in PA Trump leads 2,900,785 to 2,825,767 with 97% reported. Finally in MI Trump leads 2,131,073 to 2,071,891.

    2:19 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC again blames the Comey announcement as a core condition that affected voters and caused Clinton to lose.
    James Carville and Brian Williams on MSNBC praise Clinton’s ground game, and Carville said Trump had none. Rachel Maddow corrects him that the RNC handled the ground game.

    2:20 am

    ABC reports a tweet from Sean Spicer indicating that Trump will address his supporters shortly.
    James Carville on MSNBC says Clinton campaign had the most successful party convention in modern political history. He went on to say that according to Nate Silver, Clinton won the three debates by more than any other candidate in history.

    2:21 am

    Fox News announces Trump has arrived at his campaign headquarters at the Hilton hotel.
    Trump projected winner in the 2nd Congressional District of ME by CBS.
    MSNBC reports from the Hilton campaign headquarters that Trump has arrived there. Sean Spicer tweeted out that Trump is about to take the stage.
    Lester Holt on NBC asks Chuck Todd to look at the electoral map to see what is giving the Clinton campaign hope, in regards to John Podesta’s call for all the votes to count. Todd replies, “I can tell you what we’re looking at.” For the state of WI Todd says we still don’t know how many absentee ballots remain in Milwaukee County. Todd says there is still some votes expected in Detroit, MI and so they will not call it without knowing how many absentees. In PA, Todd appeals to the existence of provisional ballots and a few extraneous votes scattered throughout the state as the reason NBC probably will not call PA tonight.

    2:22 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC raises concern about Trump speaking to his supporters without having reached 270 electoral votes. An agitated Nicolle Wallace says it is not the right thing to do, but Trump is not a normal candidate.
    Fox News tries to reach Carl Cameron at the Trump headquarters, but is unable to get him on the air.

    2:23 am

    Van Jones on CNN says Clinton campaign wrongly took Latino votes taken for granted.
    Chuck Todd looks at the scenarios and concludes that has all the paths to 270, but it is Clinton who must win them all, PA, MI and WI.
    Lester Holt on NBC expresses concern that it is Trump’s character to go out and claim victory without a network calling it or Clinton conceding. Chuck Todd counters that in 2004 with John Kerry, it was just one state. Tonight there are three states (WI, MI and PA) all needing a miracle. He could see why the Trump people are irritated at the lack of a call or concession.

    2:24 am

    Carl Cameron on Fox News reporting from the Trump headquarters confirmed he will speak, but it is unclear what he will say, but he has much good to say.
    Rachel Maddow and James Carville exchange words over the unthinkable idea that Trump would go out there and claim victory without a Clinton concession. Maddow goes on to reject any notion that Trump will now going forward govern like a normal Republican.

    2:25 am

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC says Trump is going to have to take responsibility for and deal with the huge selloff seen in the DOW futures. The entire panel erupts into scathing comments about Trump, ending with Maddow saying that Trump would think it a badge of honor that the DOW futures have collapsed 800 points.
    Susannah Guthrie on NBC says concession speeches are never easy, and so Clinton is going to have to find the words.
    Chuck Todd on NBC reports that Trump is about to take the stage at the Hilton.

    2:26 am

    Katy Tur at the Trump headquarters says Trump is in the building, secret service have arrived and stand on each side of the podium. She say no one knows what he will say, whether or not he will chastise the media for not calling the race. Tur suggests the supporters have been drinking and are angry and want this to be over. Chuck Todd says Trump should go out there and say it is close, but they need to wait. Trump should be graceful and choose to do well in his first presidential moment.

    2:27 am

    Corey Lewandowski says it was an honor to be a part of history via his role in the Trump team.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC admits that one of his associates has been saying for days that Trump would win. Matthews then compares the Clinton campaign’s posture toward the election to the Titanic where God Himself cannot sink this ship. He said everyone agreed he would lose because of all of his mistakes. His repeated divisive speech meant no one would vote for him, but they did.
    Monica Crowley on Fox News thinks Trump will speak because he will not allow Clinton to dictate what he does, but he will be inclusive in his speech.

    2:28 am

    Trump projected winner in WI by CNN. The total updates to Trump 257, Clinton 215.
    Clinton makes the decision to call Trump to concede election.
    Steve Karnacki on MSNBC looks again at MI, and the gap is 60,000 votes, but there are more votes coming from Detroit area, making up big ground, and a scenario where should could win MI. But her gap in PA of 75,000 votes and 75,000 votes in WI makes her odds in those states extremely slim.

    2:29 am

    Jake Tapper on CNN reacts to Trump winning WI: “and the [blue] wall comes tumbling down.” Reminds viewers that Clinton never visited the state during the general election campaign. Tapper expresses amazement that the Clinton team could see white working class voters going to Trump in IA and OH, but not see that WI was also in jeopardy is remarkable.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC tries to cobble together a path for Clinton, but Steve Karnacki corrects her showing that Clinton must win PA, WI and MI, all three.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says it would be foolish for Trump to claim victory because no network has Trump over 270 yet.

    2:30 am

    About this time is when Clinton and Trump were connected on the phone for the purpose of Clinton’s conceding the election to Trump. [From a later CNN interview of Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway: “As we were preparing back-stage [to speak], my phone rang, it said Huma Abedin, I had a nice exchange with Huma…and she said Secretary Clinton would like to talk to Mr. Trump so I handed him the phone and they had maybe a one-minute conversation, very gracious, very warm, I heard Mr. Trump’s side of it, he commended her for being smart and tough and running a very hard-fought campaign and I am told Secretary Clinton congratulated Donald Trump on his victory and conceded to him.”]
    Trump projected winner in WI by NY Times.
    Katy Tur reporting for NBC says more Trump staff are entering the room. But Tur quickly shifts her comments, bitterly upset at the list of offensive things that Trump has said and done, including his role in his business, and the open investigation with Trump University, and his conduct with women who have alleged he groped them. He is defined by breaking rules, and this is what his supporters liked about him. Tur went on and on as long as she could, talking about the riot police needed around Trump, and the deeply divided country, and she wonders what reaction will come from people feeling disenfranchised by Trump.
    Fox News discusses whether or not it is virtually impossible for Clinton to come back and win.

    2:31 am

    Jake Tapper on CNN agrees that it is remarkable that Clinton failed to concede before Trump’s speech.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC shows headline rough drafts being prepared, and the New York Times headline “Race for the Presidency Hangs on Tally in a Handful of States.” Draws a chuckle from Williams who calls it the “kindest way of saying what we have witnessed tonight.” Williams said it could be better called a prairie fire.

    2:32 am

    Juan Williams on Fox News commenting on the forthcoming Trump speech says “the fact that [Trump] is appearing [to speak] runs the risk of ever beating the divide over this very close election.”
    Fox News projects Blunt winner over Kander in MO senate race.
    ABC brings out their data analyst, who reports that arguments for Clinton recovery in PA are not that compelling. The campaigns believe it is over. The mathematical reality is that it is over.
    Rachel Maddow once again highlights the DOW futures crashing due to Trump.
    Kasie Hunt on MSNBC says reports from back stage at the Javits Center was that Lady Gaga was in tears, along with Cher, and others who had planned and deeply believed they would win the election. Hunt displays her Clinton campaign napkin she had saved as a relic.
    Major Garrett reporting for CBS at the Trump campaign headquarters says Trump is at the hotel and expected to speak. Garrett says he was told that because Clinton did not concede, Trump will not declare absolute victory. Garrett says the campaign has told him that Trump will follow the protocol of waiting for the networks to call the race and for Clinton to concede before fully declaring victory, but he wants to thank his supporters and celebrate his improbable win. [Garrett seems to be perhaps the only reporter who picked up on this posture of the Trump campaign.]

    2:33 am

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN says the first female president angle had no impact on the election.
    Steve Schmidt on NBC says this is the first candidate to win the presidency having defeated two parties in the process. He says the party of Reagan and Bush no longer exists.

    2:34 am

    CNN’s Dana Bash agrees that it unseemly that Clinton would not concede tonight. Says if the roles were reversed, the Democrats would be screaming.
    The Associated Press projects Trump the winner in WI, thereby projecting Donald Trump the winner of the presidency. Chuck Todd on NBC immediately mentions that another major news organization has declared Trump the winner, giving him the green light to make a victory speech.
    Megyn Kelly points out the irony that Trump may have helped all the Republican senate candidates.

    2:35 am

    ABC’s panel questions openly whether or not Trump will act mature in his speech.
    James Carville on MSNBC praises Clinton’s plans and intelligence to combat important problems. He compares her to Trump who doesn’t plan, and doesn’t know anything. Matthews concurs that she won all the debates and had all the advantages.
    Rachel Maddow expresses sorrow for Obama who will be followed by someone who was endorsed by the KKK.

    2:36 am

    Fox News discusses the idea of a Trump mandate given he also has party control of house and senate.
    CNN’s Sara Murray at Trump headquarters says the Trump team has said the election has been over for a long time. The speech by Trump will be gracious. Social media surprised Clinton will not speak.
    James Carville on MSNBC says blacks were told tonight what the country thinks of them. The election result, Carville says is just devastating, unbelievably difficult.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says the Clinton transition team had been in full gear, already coordinating with the White House. He says, “they were measuring the drapes.”
    CBS shows images from within the Trump headquarters where one male supporter is seen holding up a sign reading ‘Women for Trump.’
    Nicolle Wallace on NBC says we did not think we would be talking about a Trump cabinet.
    The pro-Trump crowd outside of Fox News lets out a roar of cheering unrelated to what Fox News was talking about. This was probably due to learning that the Associated Press had just called the election for Trump.

    2:37 am

    ABC reports from the Hilton that Trump is in the building, rumors swirling about what they will hear from Trump. ABC reporter at Javits Center says it is still silence from the Clinton campaign.
    Norah O’Donnell on CBS recounts a list of voting demographic groups where Clinton underperformed Obama four years ago.
    Fox News analyst discusses how Trump will be able to compromise to get things done.

    2:38 am

    John King on CNN confirms for Wolf Blitzer that the election is all but over.
    James Carville says the second-guessing will go on for a long time.
    Katy Tur reporting for NBC says everyone there is watching Fox News and just waiting. Many of the people there have been there since 3:00 pm. There is movement up on the balcony, people shaking hands. Tur says Trump was superstitious about talking about the transition.
    Bob Schieffer on CBS says Clinton just never seemed to generate excitement. From the start of her campaign, it did not seem spontaneous, but instead seemed rehearsed. She was not a very good candidate, Schieffer concludes.

    2:39 am

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN interrupts John King to send it back over to Dana Bash where there is the suggestion she had breaking news, but she told Wolf to wait, as she wanted to make sure. [Likely she had the leak that Clinton had called to concede].
    John King on CNN says it is not impossible that Trump could win MN.

    2:40 am

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN interrupts King again to go back to Dana Bash who gave the breaking news that Clinton has called Trump to concede the election. Wolf Blitzer seems stunned by the news because CNN has not yet projected it.
    Trump projected winner in PA by Fox News; Trump projected winner in AK by NY Times.
    Fox News announces Donald Trump has won the presidency.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC reports that there is a rumor that Clinton has called Trump as a wild cheer goes up during their live shots of the Hilton headquarters [a cheer due to Fox News calling it for Trump].
    Katy Tur reporting for NBC at the Trump headquarters was talking about the Trump transition and the crowd suddenly roared at the call by Fox News that Trump has won the presidency. Lester Holt of NBC is quick to point out that the celebration going on inside the Hilton has nothing to do with anything NBC has projected, but is about something from another news organization.
    CBS happened to be showing live video of the Trump supporters at the campaign headquarters the moment Fox News declared Trump the winner. The CBS hosts had no idea the cause of the cheering. Major Garrett reporting for CBS lets the CBS hosts know that the roar of approval was at the news that Hillary Clinton has called Trump to concede the election.

    2:41 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC again runs through a list of expected calamities that Trump will bring upon the country, including banning Muslims, political vengeance, jail his opponent, restrict the press, rip us out of NATO, meet with Putin, and create a national deportation force. Maddow predicts a radical shock for America.
    Scott Pelley on CBS pulls back some on Major Garrett’s announcement saying we do not have confirmation from the Clinton campaign that she has in fact called Trump to concede. This caution was given despite CBS putting the breaking news box on the screen reading ‘Hillary Clinton calls Donald Trump to Concede.’ Pelley also cautions that given the current vote totals, Trump has not quite won the presidency. Pelley also mentions the Podesta speech, which led everyone to believe there would not be a concession tonight.

    2:42 am

    NBC confirms that Clinton has called Trump to concede.
    Trump projected winner in AZ (11, 289) by CNN and CBS.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says, “I just can’t believe it” when thinking about the fact that Trump has won. Wallace calls it the greatest upset in his lifetime.
    Chris Matthews gives himself a sense of calm due to protections built into the constitution.

    2:43 am

    Fox News reports that Clinton has called Trump to concede. MSNBC confirms that Clinton has called Trump to concede. Their Reporter from the vacated Javits Center says it was a phone call, made moments ago, where Clinton conceded defeat after the path had narrowed. This was a stunning and shocking development.
    Chuck Todd on NBC says, “the people have spoken…everyone needs to accept this.”
    Scott Pelley on CBS says that Donald Trump is walking out on stage, but instead it was Mike Pence.

    2:44 am

    Mike Pence walks out on the stage at Trump’s Hilton campaign headquarters.
    ABC confirms Clinton has called Trump to concede the election.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC reminds viewers that a concession does not mean a candidate has reached 270.
    John Dickerson on CBS, probably believing his mic was off says, “CNN projecting Trump wins WI” even though that had happened 16 minutes earlier.

    2:45 am

    Mike Pence begins his remarks lasting 2 minutes and 9 seconds.

    2:47 am

    Donald Trump and his family walk out on the stage at Trump’s Hilton campaign headquarters.
    CNN announces Donald Trump has won the presidency.

    2:48 am

    Trump projected winner in PA by CNN and ABC.
    The Washington Post confirms that Clinton called Trump to concede moments after WI was called for Trump (presumably by CNN, the network coverage playing at the Javits Center) at 2:28 am, and the first network to call WI after Fox News, whose 11:30 pm call the Clinton Campaign no doubt ignored.
    Trump projected winner in WI by CBS.

    2:49 am

    Donald Trump begins his remarks lasting 14 minutes and 45 seconds where he announced the call of concession received from Secretary Clinton, thanked her for her service, called for national unity, outlined campaign promises, and thanked those who worked for his election.

    2:52 am

    Trump projected winner in PA by CBS.
    CBS announces Donald Trump has won the presidency.

    3:00-4:00: Hour of Cleanup

    The final hour of coverage began during Trump’s victory speech, followed by further media coverage on most networks where hosts and analysts attempted to take it all in and process the outcome of the election.

    3:01 am

    Trump projected winner in AK by CBS.

    3:03 am

    Trump projected winner in WI by ABC. ABC projects Trump has won the presidency.
    NBC projects Trump has won the presidency.

    3:04 am

    Trump projected winner in PA and WI by NBC. NBC projects Trump has won the presidency.
    Trump completes his victory speech.

    3:05 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC remarks about one Trump campaign staffer who was known to dig through data in Arkansas trying to find dirt on the Clintons.
    Chuck Todd says Trump will need to do something quickly to settle the rattled markets. Susannah Guthrie responds by referring to a text she received from someone who said, “There goes my retirement again.”
    The CBS panel of analysts remark about the conciliatory tone of Trump’s speech.

    3:06 am

    ABC News analysts remark about the gracious tone of Trump’s speech.
    Chris Matthews on MSNBC suggests there might have been someone around Trump with an IQ who informed him that he would have to deal with the crashing stock markets, and that is why the tone of the speech lacked the attack lines.
    Scott Pelley remarks that Trump is the first person to win election to the presidency without having held any prior elected office since Dwight Eisenhower, but Trump didn’t win World War II.

    3:07 am

    Chris Matthews watching Trump depart the Hilton, “what a strange event.” Remarks about how Trump had talked about jailing Clinton.
    Lester Holt and Andrea Mitchell on NBC reflect on the Clinton firewall that it has crumbled. Mitchell says a source in MI expressed grave concern early in the evening. Mitchell says he will need to reassure the markets.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says Trump was presidential in his speech. <<?-here 9:09:42

    3:08 am

    Nicolle Wallace talks about shirts that say ‘Don’t blame me I voted for her.’ She says white women over 45 voted for Trump.
    Katy Tur at the Hilton says no one has gone home with a large number of people getting photographed with President-Elect Trump. Tur describes his speech as gracious, especially toward Clinton. Lester Holt agreed, saying Trump spoke with humility.
    Major Garrett at Trump headquarters says campaign sources tell him all the steps for Trump’s transition team are already in place. Garrett goes on to say Newt Gingrich told him that Trump is a combination of Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt and P.T. Barnum. Garrett says Trump’s upside potential is enormous, but so is his downside risk.

    3:09 am

    Fox News analysts agree Trump’s speech was humble, gracious and unifying.
    Jake Tapper on CNN talks about how much work Trump has to do to unify the country.

    3:10 am

    MSNBC analysts keep repeating themselves expressing how scared everyone is about Trump and what it all means. Nicole Wallace said he committed gaffe after gaffe after gaffe.
    Chuck Todd says Trump has a mandate because of how he won, in defiance of both parties, the media and academics. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. Trump is a modern day Andrew Jackson, Todd says.

    3:11 am

    Juan Williams on Fox News, does not think he has a mandate, but thinks people should not be blind to the idea that Trump is a demagogue, has offended women, minorities, religious minorities, and American values like sharing, tolerance and inclusiveness; though he was impressed with Trump’s speech.
    Brian Williams on MSNBC shows New York Times headline “Trump Triumphs, Outsider Mogul Captures the Presidency, stunning Clinton in Battleground States.”
    James Carville says Trump is totally unprepared and doesn’t know anything about how to be president, and this is why it will be hard for Clinton to speak.
    CBS’s Nancy Cordes at the now vacated Javits Center says the lights are out and they have already brought in the heavy equipment to tear apart the staging. Cordes reflects on the irony that everyone was concerned Trump may not accept the election results. However, tonight John Podesta said the outcome was still up in the air, but just a short time later she called Donald Trump to concede. So at the end of the day, Clinton was the one who has not delivered a concession speech. Cordes says there are still campaign staffers in the Clinton war room trying to figure out what went wrong. She says every campaign aide she has seen there tonight has been ‘shell-shocked,’ because they were not just confident she would win, they were sure of it. Cordes says that perhaps a similar reaction by Clinton herself explains why she did not appear tonight.

    3:12 am

    Steve Schmidt on MSNBC says Trump has just assumed an awesome responsibility. He is the most powerful man in the world now. He was gracious toward Clinton and said all the right things tonight, and reached out internationally.
    Dana Bash on CNN that Trump will be able to get things done. Says Trump will undo all that President Obama got done.

    3:13 am

    Eugene Robinson on MSNBC says the result is going to take a lot of thinking to process election day. It is going to be hard to get past “Oh my God.” It feels potentially cataclysmic, and hope it somehow works out. It will take time to figure out how this happened and why we didn’t see it coming. Robinson also points to the financial crisis the election of Trump has produced.
    John Dickerson on CBS says the Trump presidency is going to be ‘an exciting ride.’
    Dana Perino on Fox News says in his speech Trump put the onus on Democrats, led by Clinton and Obama to see what tone they have.

    3:14 am

    Gayle King on CBS reflects on how many Americans agreed with Trump’s candidacy as a movement. Bob Schieffer says the election is also a reaction against a Washington that has ceased to work.
    David Axelrod on CNN says Trump struck the right notes in his speech.

    3:15 am

    Fox News host reads open letter of congratulations from Speaker Ryan to President-Elect Trump.
    James Carville says Trump won the election and it has consequences.
    Peggy Noonan on CBS says Trump’s victory speech was worthy to the moment.
    Fox News displays the red/blue national map and the hosts marvel how much red there is, especially in PA, MI and FL.

    3:16 am

    Trump projected winner in AK by ABC.
    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC says there is a collective world freak out over Trump’s election.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says Cruz no longer can run against Clinton for her second term.

    3:17 am

    Charlie Gibson on ABC says he hopes for the best. Tells story about Trump winning because he wasn’t one of ‘them’ – part of the Washington establishment.
    Richard Engel on MSNBC says the USA is entering the realm of some other countries now being led by narcissists [as though President Obama was not one]. He warns that once Trump doesn’t get what he wants, look out, it won’t end well.
    James Carville on NBC says our system of healthcare will change. Hallie Jackson suggests Trump will listen to the people around him, but Carville counters there is no evidence he will listen to people.

    3:18 am

    James Carville says he is ‘devastated’ at the result, as is the Democrat Party. He says it is very tough time right now to be a Democrat. Carville says it is almost certain Clinton will win the popular vote.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says, ‘it is the Trump era.’

    3:19 am

    Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC says the founding fathers anticipated Donald Trump because they feared tyrants, they overthrew the rule of a king, and all the true powers belong congress. He goes on to mock Trump’s agenda saying it will not happen.
    Chris Wallace on Fox News says Chuck Schumer is now the most powerful Democrat.

    3:20 am

    Hallie Jackson on NBC admits the polls were tightening even before the Comey announcement.
    Anthony Mason on CBS looks one last time at exit polling data and found Trump won men 53% to 41%; whites without a college degree 67% to 28%; and voters who wanted change 83% to 14%. He also won 9 out of 10 Republican voters.
    On CNN David Axelrod dodges Anderson Cooper’s question, “Is the Clinton era over?”
    Juan Williams on Fox News says he is going through the five stages of grief. Williams thinks blame will be on Clinton for not being a good candidate. She was a flawed candidate and could not overcome her flaws. Williams also thinks Obama’s leadership style helped create the phenomenon of Trump.

    3:21 am

    James Carville on NBC says one camp in the Clinton team said they needed to end the campaign focusing on the economy, while another faction did not want that approach.
    Bob Schieffer agrees with Charlie Rose on CBS, that the election of Trump is historic, but we don’t know where it goes from here.

    3:22 am

    Rachel Maddow again remarks about Trump possibly replacing Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.
    Scott Pelley signs off the CBS coverage saying, “the raunchy election of 2016 has now come to a peaceful if not improbably end.”

    3:23 am

    Steve Schmidt again says the Reagan coalition died tonight. He says the Democrat Party is at its weakest governing point in 100 years.
    Juan Williams thinks coastal elite Democrats may feel like they don’t belong.

    3:24 am

    NBC’s Lester Holt shows a headline from The Guardian that says “Trump stuns world.” Andrea Mitchell says Obama will welcome Trump to the White House on Thursday. She says the meeting between them will be very awkward considering all that has exchanged between them.

    3:25 am

    Chris Matthews on MSNBC tries to profile the white male Trump voter.

    3:26 am

    Chuck Todd says perhaps Trump should apologize to Obama over the things he said about him even though it will be late. James Carville says minorities now know what the country thinks of them.

    3:27 am

    Chris Matthews and Lawrence O’Donnell have bitter exchange over infrastructure spending.
    Van Jones on CNN says blacks and Muslims tonight feel very vulnerable, and he blames Trump’s rhetoric for the violence against the black community.

    3:28 am

    Fox News signs off their coverage, thanking viewers for trusting them.

    3:29 am

    NBC signs off their coverage.

    3:32 am

    Katy Tur at the Trump headquarters says on the campaign trail it was mostly white, with very few Hispanics and very few blacks. His crowds were increasingly angry, one even calling for Clinton’s assassination. She said it surprised her and it shouldn’t have surprised her.

    3:34 am

    Kasie Hunt on MSNBC asks the question, “what happens to the Democrat Party going forward. All the talk leading in was about what the GOP would do going forward (after Trump loses). Hunt highlights the weak bench on their bench. Hunt says Pence has the chance to make the vice-presidency something it hasn’t been in some time. He will be able to help craft policy.

    3:35 am

    Brian Williams draws attention to the total failure of polling—no one had this right.

    3:38 am

    Steve Karnacki survey’s Trump’s path, specifically the blue states he flipped, PA, MI, and WI. Expresses shock that MN has not been called. <<<8:47 point
    Michael Smerconish on CNN suggests that even though Trump and the GOP has control, it will be up to him to meet Democrats half-way.

    3:40 am
    Rachel Maddow expresses shock that Trump won these states, and this explains why Trump battled for these states, and their internal polling was right.

    3:41 am

    Kasie Hunt says it has been reported that Clinton will speak later on Wednesday morning.

    3:42 am

    Van Jones on CNN says the most qualified candidate by traditional metrics has lost to the least qualified candidate. Immediately Corey Lewandowski rips Jones for his comments saying Clinton was not the most qualified and she did not do the right things to advance her political career.

    3:43 am

    Rachel Maddow on MSNBC points out that these new diagnostic tools that supposedly look at real-time voting data throughout election day were wrong. They always gave much higher numbers to Clinton. Eugene Robinson concurs, saying those tools were ‘garbage-in, garbage out.’
    CNN panel agrees that in the end the election was about class, not gender.

    3:45 am

    Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC blames the effect of the Comey investigation for Clinton’s failure.

    3:46 am

    Eugene Robinson says Trump used people of color as a foil to gain voters.
    Clinton projected winner of three electoral votes in ME, and Trump is projected winner of one electoral vote in ME according to CNN, bringing their current tally to Trump 289, Clinton 218.

    3:47 am

    Rachel Maddow and Eugene Robinson agree that Trump won because he used racism to rally the white vote. Chris Matthews agrees that Trump used racism this way, but disagrees that this is why Trump won.

    3:48 am

    Jake Tapper on CNN confirms the DOW futures are now off only -293. Tapper reminds viewers that Trump is oldest person to ever become president, and he is the only one to have never held elected office or been in the military. The only four presidents who never held office were: Zachary Taylor, U.S. Grant, Herbert Hoover and Dwight Eisenhower. Melania Trump is the first foreign born First Lady since Louisa Adams, wife of John Quincy Adams.

    3:49 am

    Dana Bash on CNN reports that Republicans will maintain control of the US Senate. She says it turns out Trump had some coattails.

    3:50 am

    Chris Matthews expresses optimism, a hope that Trump will turn back from all the stupid stuff and that he does better than expected. He is not ready to accept a doomsday.
    John King on CNN points out that in the waning days of the campaign Trump sounded more like Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, and his promises to deliver on the Supreme Court helped woo Republicans out to vote.

    3:52 am

    Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC says that a large numbers of people right now are crying, and they are filled with fear, and his speech tonight created more fear.
    3:53 am

    Steve Schmidt says maybe we will now see a different side of Trump. Eugene Robinson says Trump needs to cut out the racism right now, and voters used him as an umbrella to be racist.

    3:54 am

    Brian Williams signs off the MSNBC coverage by simply thanking his colleagues, and says nothing about Trump’s victory.
    Wolf Blitzer signs off CNN coverage: “Donald Trump elected President of the United States.”

  461. George says:

    Trump should paraphrase the words of his predecessor Barry Obama after one of the many midterm Democratic election disasters under his 2 terms: To all of you who did not vote in the election yesterday I hear your message loud and clear. I will continue to work 24/7 to enact all the great plans you put me in office to achieve.

  462. Trump says:

    “Writing a bill w/ @MartinHeinrich to prevent anyone convicted of domestic violence – be it in criminal or military court – from buying a gun” – Jeff Flake

    And

    “18 U.S.C. 922(g)(9) bans firearm possession by anyone “who has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.”

    Jeff Flake – living up to his name. The best and brightest that GOP has to offer.

  463. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – Thank you. Do you have any insight into yesterday’s loss in Virginia? You predicted a Gillespie win and said that you would be stonewall against those predicting a Northam win.

  464. Trump says:

    As I always question, what do these cra*weasels do all day?

  465. Trump says:

    Flake is running for president in 2020, so I guess he has to keep his name in the news.

    By writing bills for laws already in effect.

  466. JC says:

    Jeez, what an embarrassing performance last night. It’s one thing to lose, but to lose by that much? Gillespie didn’t come close to reaching Trump’s rural margins, or Cuccinelli’s margins in the suburban areas.

    I hope this strikes fear into the heart of the GOPe. Republican voters had absolutely no reason to come out last night and vote.

    Yes, I know this was a state election. Still, the GOP controlled congress has done absolutely nothing… except investigate Trump for a year on dem-created conspiracy theories while ignoring real crimes on the left. How many base voters decided that it just wasn’t worth the effort? Honestly, I don’t blame them.

    Good job GOP. You might be the only party incompetent enough to lose under a roaring economy.

    We have control of every branch of the federal government, and not a single major legislation has been passed. Worse, we have about 2 or 3 senators who are purposely stopping such legislation from passing… out of sheer spite and jealously alone… and yet McConnel allows this behavior to take place.

  467. NYCmike says:

    ” However, I am ecstatic that Congress is not controlled by Democrats because I believe Trump would sign their bills.”

    -He might.

    Which is all the more reason that I am correct in saying that Congress was supposed to lead in a conservatively-oriented way.

    BUT THEY HAVE NOT! And yet you excuse them while they fiddle around and let their egos get in the way of making good changes.

  468. Bitterlaw says:

    As expected, not even a tiny criticism of Trump from JC.

  469. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I said that I would have voted for that crappy Obamacare bill. I have said that all of the GOP Senators should have voted for it. If that is your definition of “making excuses,” I can’t help you.

  470. Bitterlaw says:

    The “crappy Obamacare bill” was the Not Repeal and Not Replace one.

  471. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Why don’t you argue with the actual reasons he gave, and then present your own reasons for why Trump was the reason, instead of just reflexively ignoring everything he wrote?

  472. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    2 questions:

    They passed a repeal bill and sent it to Obama. What was the purpose of that?

    They could have sent the same repeal bill to Trump, and then had the last 9 months to work on “replace”. Why didn’t they?

  473. DW says:

    467 – Yep…was wrong. It isn’t just any one thing. I thought the GOP base would show up and they didn’t. I was shocked yesterday when I communicated with a friend who always votes and is reliably GOP. He told me he forgot and thanked me for reminding him to go vote. My immediate reaction was wow, if HE forgot to vote…

    I also though the rural surge in VA from last year would have more staying power, but it didn’t. In hindsight, I think the Gillespie campaign strategy had more flaws in it than I realized. In the final days here in Hampton Roads Northam was on the air relentlessly and had ads everywhere–internet, TV, etc., and Gillespie had little in response.

    Another part of it is clearly the Dem vote out for revenge which manifested itself mostly in NOVA. I didn’t see it here.

    I am confident though that the GOP will not learn the right lessons and will keep stumbling into 2018.

  474. MichiganGuy says:

    DW,so what is the lesson? Get better candidates and spend more money of media buys?

  475. DW says:

    477-Bitter, the other thing is VA is simply much more blue now than I had hoped for. Most of it is the huge influx of highly paid gov’t employees in NOVA, but part of it I am picking up on locally is the fact that there are still holdovers from the old days who are personally conservative, pro-military, pro-life, limited government types, who for whatever reason still want to pretend that this is still the Democrat Party of William Jennings Bryan.

  476. DW says:

    478 – I don’t know. Had Gillespie brought in Trump and was joined at the hip with him for the last month, he would have still lost…he would have gained some in the rural west and central VA, but he would have lost by even more in NOVA and VA Beach.

    I honestly do not know what Republican candidate could have won yesterday.

  477. DW says:

    Looking back at my atlas, I think Brian Williams gets the award for ‘Best statement of denial’ for this comment at 2:44 a.m., just before Trump spoke and after Clinton conceded:

    “Brian Williams on MSNBC reminds viewers that a concession does not mean a candidate has reached 270.”

  478. Jonesy says:

    Dem Mayor of Allentown, Pa, indicted on 52 counts of corruption, re-elected.

    Stupid as Stupid be

  479. MichiganGuy says:

    Gillespie was a flawed candidate. He was an establishment lobbyist pretending to be a populist like Trump but, didn’t want Trumps help. He tried playing both side. He made a huge mistake not inviting Trump. See what he didn’t realize is the people who hated Trump was never going to vote for him anyway. Trump would of energized the base and I guarantee you people like your friend would not have forgotten to vote.

  480. Jonesy says:

    Dw, you did a great job. In the end GOP lost Va by on 3% more than Trump in a non base year.

    HoD stinks, but at least you still have the state senate.

  481. Jonesy says:

    Mich, Nova is the new Chicago/Cook County.

    Reagan would have lost last night

  482. MichiganGuy says:

    @485 Jonesy, I disagree. Gillespie only lost by 224,000 votes. There was 600,000 votes that Trump got that Gillespie didn’t get but could of gotten if, he would of ask Trump to campaign for him. I realize this is an off year election and not as many people vote but if, he would of gotten just half of those 600,000 votes he would of won!

  483. NYCmike says:

    MG,

    If that is what Gillespie was hoping for, even I could have told him that it won’t happen.

  484. DW says:

    483 – My friend hates Trump–that had nothing to do with him forgetting to vote.

  485. NYCmike says:

    There is a lot of “hate” out there, for a person whose actions before this year NEVER affected any of you.

  486. MichiganGuy says:

    DW, you need to get better friends. 🙂

  487. NYCmike says:

    I never even “hated” Obama.

    I could not stand to listen to him, or watch him speak, and his wife either.

    But I don’t “hate” him.

  488. DW says:

    Trump campaigning with Gillespie would not have helped that much. I know a lot of these people, and they would have felt that Trump seen with Gillespie makes Trump look bad, rather than making Gillespie look good to them.
    These rural Trumpbots who only voted in 2016 play political chess one move at a time with no capacity to look ahead at the bigger picture.

  489. MichiganGuy says:

    NYCmike, exactly what I was thinking Trump use to be friends with the Clintons, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, chucky schumer and the rest of the dem elists! Now that he is a republican he is a racist , sexist, misogynist and a bigot, WTH!

  490. NYCmike says:

    I do HATE the b*st*rds out on Long Island who are luring teenagers and a little bit older to isolated places, and then killing them. Authorities just found 2 more bodies today. Sick sh*t, most likely gang-related.

    BUT, keep the numbers right where they are, and keep chain migration and unlimited welfare as well, to be nice.

  491. DW says:

    My friend didn’t exactly hate him as a person I suppose…hated that he was the nominee was more what I meant. He believed that someone with such a faulty moral compass isn’t ideal to be a quality leader.

  492. Bitterlaw says:

    489 I hate people who donate to Democrats, make fun of war heroes and would like to date their daughters.

  493. MichiganGuy says:

    BL, you hate everyone. 🙂

  494. MichiganGuy says:

    #495 DW, I bet those same people didn’t have any problems with Bill Clinton’s morals.

  495. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – I do not hate everybody. However, I am open to finding a reason to hate anybody.

  496. Bitterlaw says:

    D

  497. DW says:

    498 – My friend felt the same about Bill Clinton’s morals. Lack of moral integrity makes someone a poor leader.

  498. DW says:

    I am thankful at least that Loudoun County posted their entire results right up front so I would know immediately that the election was over, so I didn’t have to take the pains of sitting there waiting for several hours.

  499. BayernFan says:

    Some UCLA basketball players, including Ball, were arrested in China for shoplifting.

  500. MichiganGuy says:

    DW, I can’t remember the last time we had a good moral person. I don’t think good moral people would run for the presidency. Even President Reagan had his faults.

  501. Phil says:

    The Republicans will lose the House. McCain will personally see to it by helping to kill tax reform. His farewell love fest with his MSM buddies continues right until he expires.

    …but it’s all ok because he is a war hero.

  502. DW says:

    Wow…Donna Brazile keeps digging in, seemingly desperate to join the long list of dead Clinton associates:

    The “arrogant” Clinton campaign was more like a “cult” than a political campaign.

    That startling accusation came … not from a Republican, but the former chairman of the DNC, Donna Brazile.

    “It was a cult,” Brazile said of the Clinton campaign. “I felt like it was a cult.”

    Brazile further said that the main reason Clinton lost was due to her “arrogance.”

    https://news.grabien.com/story-brazile-clinton-campaign-it-was-cult-i-felt-it-was-cult

  503. Jonesy says:

    Jimmy Carter, Mich. More conservative than most Pubbies in 1977. Why Ted Kennedy hated him

  504. Cash Cow TM says:

    If President Trump would not have been screwing around in Asia and instead have been here (and campaigning n VA for Gillespie and the other Rs there) the outcome would have been big R wins.

    (sarc) :/

  505. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW,

    Your excellent but long posts recapping the 2016 presidential election caused Hal to have a nervous breakdown.

  506. Jonesy says:

    On 2013 night, RRH was saying GOP would not win the senate in 2014, because McAwful won.

  507. DW says:

    504 – It is true that no one is perfect. Everyone has flaws. But that is different from someone whose lifetime pattern of behavior demonstrates a lack of moral integrity and character. Of course that is not the only consideration. Moral integrity and character alone doesn’t make someone qualified to be a great leader. Jimmy Carter might have had personal integrity I suppose, but he was one of our worst leaders ever.

  508. MichiganGuy says:

    #507 Jimmy Carter was a liberal though. Pro-abortion, big government and a very weak leader.

  509. Jonesy says:

    Phil, i will take heat on this, say the GOP keeps the Senate and loses the House?

    Obama seemed to thrive with that in 2011. Let Pelosi and the crazies go nuts, only helps Trump in 2020, and then we still confirm judges.

  510. Jonesy says:

    Carter was pro abort back then?

  511. Jonesy says:

    DW, how does a 50-50 tie in HOD work, and a 21-19 GOP Senate?

  512. Trump says:

    Gillespie went looking for votes in NoVa, based on his persona of middle of the road milquetoast.

    Didn’t get them, and couldn’t get the rest of state to par.

    Compared to 2016, Gillespie had worse MARGIN in 100 of 130 political subdivisions (cities, counties) in VA. Clear indication that your voters didn’t show up.

    No electronic media presence, no social media presence. His own mailers (who does mailers?) highlighted quotes from MSNBC, WaPo, and Richmond Times-Dispatch, as to how he was a “moderate”.

    He ran a Bob Dole campaign with a Jeb Bush tactical acumen.

  513. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 9:55 am
    The Republicans will lose the House. McCain will personally see to it by helping to kill tax reform. His farewell love fest with his MSM buddies continues right until he expires.
    …but it’s all ok because he is a war hero.

    – If you think McCain is the problem, you haven’t been paying attention.

  514. Phil says:

    You’re right, Robbie. McCain is never a problem. I stand corrected. I understand he is a war hero. BTW, don’t ever get between McCain and the camera. Very dangerous.

  515. Trump says:

    McCain has always been a backstabbing grandstander. That is how he developed his “maverick” crede.

    How many years in Senate, 30-35?

    The only significant legislation to his name is the unconstitutional McCain-Feingold Act, gutted by the Supreme Court.

    Think about it. Lifetime of achievement bolis down to unconstitutional grandstanding.

  516. DW says:

    515 – hopefully it won’t work and there will be gridlock.

  517. Jonesy says:

    MCCain is a adulterer POS. He and Bush 1 hide behind their military records.

    McCain was only Republican to vote against two excellent DOD and DOJ nominees yesterday in the Senate.

    Robbie is unhinged. He is hoping the GOP Rome burns, so he can see his Boogeyman get hurt politically

  518. Phil says:

    Senate was one vote away from getting at least part of Obamacare repealed. How did McCain vote? Uh, never mind. He’s not a problem.

  519. DW says:

    The only vote in my life I regret making was for McCain in 2008. I should have seen Obama was going to win anyway, and just write in Daffy Duck.

  520. Phil says:

    Amusing watching Robbie high five with the two Democratic trolls last night.

    Hell, I would have been shocked if he’d acted any different.

  521. Phil says:

    DW, I’m with you on regretting my vote for McCain in 2008.

  522. Jonesy says:

    Phil, we would be happier if we all just ignored Meatloaf.

    Gillespie was his GOPe type of guy, but was happy he lost, because his twitter friends at the MSM could roast Trump.

    I wonder if Robbie is friends with the Guy who attacked Rand Paul

  523. Robbie says:

    Trump is NOT solely responsible for the toxic atmosphere that exists for Republicans, but it’s clear last night’s results were a referendum on Trump’s first year as president. Virginia House member and retired Navy SEAL Scott Taylor said that very thing on CNN this morning.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/politics/scott-taylor-election-new-day-cnntv/index.html

    As I wrote last night, the results really shouldn’t have come as a total shock because the warning signs were there all along. Trump’s approval rating (a proxy for Republicans at large) is just 37% or 38% and the Republicans trail in the generic ballot by about 9 points on average. Both were harbingers that something was going very wrong.

    Most will suggest that passing legislation will improve Republican fortunes heading into 2018. It won’t hurt, but I doubt it will serve as a panacea. Democrats passed Obamacare and Dodd/Frank in 2010 after bad 2009 losses and it did nothing to help them on election day.

    I believe the only person who can change Republicans fortunes in 2018 is Trump. That would require him to change how he has operated and I doubt he’s willing to do that. If he stopped with the Twitter idiocy, toned down his rhetoric, and stopped acting erratically, his fortunes and the fortunes and those of the party would rise quickly.

    Republicans have a story to tell. The economy is doing very well, but they’re not getting any credit for it because people aren’t able to get past Trump’s behavior. Unless he changes his ways, Nancy Pelosi will be Speaker again in 2019.

  524. Trump says:

    Unconstitutionality of McCain-Feingold:

    1) In June 2007 the U.S. Supreme Court held, in FEC v. Wisconsin Right to Life, Inc., that BCRA’s limitations on corporate and labor union funding of broadcast ads mentioning a candidate within 30 days of a primary or caucus or 60 days of a general election are unconstitutional as applied to ads susceptible of a reasonable interpretation other than as an appeal to vote for or against a specific candidate.

    2) In June 2008, the section of the act known as the “millionaire’s amendment” was overturned by the Supreme Court in Davis v. Federal Election Commission.[15] This provision had attempted to “equalize” campaigns by providing that the legal limit on contributions would increase for a candidate who was substantially outspent by an opposing candidate using personal wealth.

    3) In January 2010, the Supreme Court struck sections of McCain–Feingold down which limited activity of corporations

  525. Trump says:

    “I believe the only person who can change Republicans fortunes in 2018 is Trump.”

    love it, he has them by the short and curlies.

  526. Phil says:

    521

    Wait, McCain the only Republican to vote against DOD and DOJ nominees yesterday? Color me surprised. Must be because he is the only Republican senator to have principles. Yeah, that’s it.

  527. Trump says:

    And you believe a lot of cra*, cretin.

  528. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:11 am
    You’re right, Robbie. McCain is never a problem. I stand corrected. I understand he is a war hero. BTW, don’t ever get between McCain and the camera. Very dangerous.

    – Your dislike for McCain is warranted, but he’s not the reason Republican fortunes are in the dumps. The wave Democrats won in VA was a referendum on Trump’s first year as president.

  529. Trump says:

    Here’s a hint, morons:

    Don’t pass anything, that’s the ticket to paradise.

  530. Trump says:

    Last night was a referendum on Ed Gillespie.

  531. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:18 am
    MCCain is a adulterer POS. He and Bush 1 hide behind their military records.
    McCain was only Republican to vote against two excellent DOD and DOJ nominees yesterday in the Senate.
    Robbie is unhinged. He is hoping the GOP Rome burns, so he can see his Boogeyman get hurt politically

    – Trump’s court jester is lashing out at everyone but the person primarily responsible for all of the bad news.

  532. Chicon says:

    If I’m a gop member of the House or Senate this morning, I’m thinking about what I can do to help my reelection prospects next year (this just in….Trump is not on the ballot next year).

    Maybe I can get Trump to act more presidential? No dice. Trump is who he is. If I distance myself from him, it’ll anger his supporters. If I tie myself to him, it’ll anger his haters. I can’t really do anything about how the people see Trump – he’s the given in the math problem, and I’ll sound like Robbie if I just whine about it every day.

    Or, maybe I can go the Portman route and simply focus on doing my job well. At least this option is in my control.

  533. Phil says:

    You know, someone can legitimately argue that Trump can be ham handed in style….but please don’t give the grandstander, McCain a pass. He’s a senate Democrat’s dream.

  534. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:20 am
    Amusing watching Robbie high five with the two Democratic trolls last night.
    Hell, I would have been shocked if he’d acted any different.

    – Is Wes a Democrat troll? Because after he saw the results, he began echoing what I have been saying for months.

    You can look for scapegoats and excuses to explain away what happened in VA all you want, but the person primarily responsible for it was Trump.

    I didn’t want to see Gillispie lose. He’s my kind of conservative Republican, but he ran in an atmosphere that was toxic for the party.

  535. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:21 am

    Gillespie was his GOPe type of guy, but was happy he lost, because his twitter friends at the MSM could roast Trump.
    I wonder if Robbie is friends with the Guy who attacked Rand Paul

    – The amount of butthurt you display here each and every day is laughable.

    I wanted Gillispie to win. He is my kind of conservative Republican: sane. I’m sorry he lost.

  536. Phil says:

    McCain’s a huge problem in the Senate – a gift from God to Schumer and company. If he pulls his standard sh*t on the tax bill then, yes, he’ll contribute to Democratic control of the House.

    The fact that McCain is more popular with Democrats than Republicans tells you all you need to know.

  537. Chicon says:

    539 – you saying someone else is butt hurt every day is like the fire truck on fire – the ultimate irony.

  538. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:33 am
    You know, someone can legitimately argue that Trump can be ham handed in style….but please don’t give the grandstander, McCain a pass. He’s a senate Democrat’s dream.

    – Didn’t I say your dislike for Trump was warranted? Yes, I did.

    That said, politics is often about relationships. Trump set out at the start of his campaign to roast any relationship he might have had with McCain. In fact, he spent the leadup to the Obamacare vote antagonizing McCain as if he was some low level developer in NYC he could intimidate.

    I wish McCain had voted yes, but why does he get so much disdain and not Rand Paul? Paul has voted for EXACTLY nothing. He could have just as easily voted yes on Obamacare and the bill would have passed. I thought Paul was a conservative?

  539. Chicon says:

    527 – funny you had no idea about these obvious warning signs prior to the election. Remember? When you said you knew little about the race and didn’t think Trump would have much impact?

  540. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:40 am
    McCain’s a huge problem in the Senate – a gift from God to Schumer and company. If he pulls his standard sh*t on the tax bill then, yes, he’ll contribute to Democratic control of the House.
    The fact that McCain is more popular with Democrats than Republicans tells you all you need to know.

    – What about Rand Paul? Why does he escape your scorn? Has he ever voted for anything?

  541. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    Any thoughts on the GOP blow-out win Last night in Utah CD-3?
    The Resistance Democrat and her allies spent well over $1 million to grab 27% of the vote and lose by 30%.

  542. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:40 am
    539 – you saying someone else is butt hurt every day is like the fire truck on fire – the ultimate irony.

    – Sort of like you trying to sound credible.

  543. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:45 am
    527 – funny you had no idea about these obvious warning signs prior to the election. Remember? When you said you knew little about the race and didn’t think Trump would have much impact?

    – Your ability to lie about what I have written is becoming epic. I wrote yesterday that it would be unfair to blame Trump solely for any loss. I stand by that.

    Trump exacerbated the toxic atmosphere Republicans face, but it existed long before he came around. The inability of the House and Senate to act has contributed as well. So has polarization brought on by talk radio, social media, and networks playing for one side rather than the other.

  544. Phil says:

    I thought McCain was a conservative. At least that’s the way he campaigns every six years. McCain’s election year BS gets him back into the senate and then he dumps on Republicans year in year out. Same story year after year. As much as Trump and McCain clash, they absolutely share a common characteristic. Thin skinned and egotistical. On that score, two peas in a pod.

  545. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:46 am
    Robbie
    Any thoughts on the GOP blow-out win Last night in Utah CD-3?
    The Resistance Democrat and her allies spent well over $1 million to grab 27% of the vote and lose by 30%.

    – Sure. Utah is not competitive and you know that. Even in a mighty blue wave next year, that seat isn’t going to the Democrats. Stop trying to mix apples and oranges.

  546. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:51 am
    I thought McCain was a conservative. At least that’s the way he campaigns every six years. McCain’s election year BS gets him back into the senate and then he dumps on Republicans year in year out. Same story year after year. As much as Trump and McCain clash, they absolutely share a common characteristic. Thin skinned and egotistical. On that score, two peas in a pod.

    – And what about Rand Paul?

  547. Phil says:

    Paul does his thing. He votes his peculiar ideology which I don’t agree with in most cases. I lived in his father’s congressional district for years so I know first hand how frustrating it is. The only thing I can say for Paul is that he votes like he campaigns. McCain, campaigns one way and then constantly casts his senate votes to gain the approval of the left and the MSM. It makes me ill.

  548. NYCmike says:

    Just to clarify, since Bitterlaw keeps using it as an excuse:

    McCain campaigned on Repeal……and Replace.
    McCain’s 1st excuse, in June, was that it did not Replace.
    McCain’s 2nd excuse, in July, was that it was NOT BI-Partisan. Was BI-Partisanship part of his campaign rhetoric in 2016?

  549. NYCmike says:

    Should have been July, and September, not June and July, regarding McCain…….

  550. Phil says:

    That’s another thing I can’t stand about McCain. His bipartisan bullsh*t. Never a word from him when the other side shows absolutely no inkling of it.

  551. NYCmike says:

    ” Never a word from him when the other side shows absolutely no inkling of it.”

    -Phil,

    Be fair….every 6 years he complains about the Democrats.

  552. Barrett says:

    I don’t normally get a chance to post here…they’ve since blocked political sites at my workplace.

    My takeaway from last night is that NJ was a referendum on Christie and Virginia was a referendum on nobody in particular. VA is becoming increasingly blue and will continue to do so.

    In terms of what the future holds…last night’s elections mean little to me. What has my attention are the number of people retiring from congress. If the republicans can’t put this civil war to rest, they will likely lose the house, though I’m not sure about the senate.

    I trust Republicans but I deplore Trump. He uses fear and division to get what he wants, which so far hasnt been much.

    I’m rooting for the gop tax plan. Its simpler and will help the middle class. Passing it would be a good start to minimizing losses.

  553. CG says:

    The Republican who won in Utah last night is NeverTrump.

    A few days ago, he was being attacked on here by Trump apologists, but after last night, they have to pretend to have something to feel good about.

  554. Robbie says:

    On it’s own, I never saw the Gillispie race as something that would foreshadow much of anything for 2018. After all, Republicans lost in 2013 and then won big in 2014.

    What made yesterday’s election in Virginia different though was the top to bottom rout in the House of Delegates. That was a 2010 wave on a state scale. In some cases, candidates who simply put their names on the ballot just to be on the ballot either won or narrowly lost.

    The sweep in the House of Delegates is the story. It showed that democrats were energized and willing to vote Democrat just to send Trump a message. That’s what we saw heading into 2010.

  555. CG says:

    Last night proved that Donald Trump is a disaster for the Republican Party and would ultimately be a disaster for America. I blame myself to an extent for thinking it would probably be a very close race, because of the rhetoric on here.

    I wish Ed Gillespie would have won. He is a decent, mainstream person, but he made a Faustian Bargain, and it backfired on him, and now those people have no problems throwing him under the bus.

    I just hope Justice Gorsuch is worth all of this for most of you. It is legitimately going to be the only positive thing Trump ever gets done, and it was actually Mitch McConnell who did it.

  556. NYCmike says:

    “I trust Republicans but I deplore Trump. He uses fear and division to get what he wants, which so far hasnt been much.”

    -Would it have been better to lose to Hillary in 2016?

  557. NYCmike says:

    ” It is legitimately going to be the only positive thing Trump ever gets done, and it was actually Mitch McConnell who did it.”

    -The President chose him, and the Senate got him thru.

    NOW, please tell Congress to reciprocate, UNLESS you still think a President can write his own legislation.

  558. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:20 am
    “I trust Republicans but I deplore Trump. He uses fear and division to get what he wants, which so far hasnt been much.”
    -Would it have been better to lose to Hillary in 2016?

    – Still going with the “but Hillary” argument 365 days after the election ended I see.

    It’s time to retire that talking point. Trump is the president. Hillary is long gone.

  559. CG says:

    Trump’s political capital has fallen a great deal after last night. Nothing is going to get through Congress as long as he is President. Pence might have a chance on a few things at least.

    Let Trump celebrate his “one year anniversary” by resigning and going to play golf and let a sane person be President. It won’t be Hillary. She already lost.

  560. NYCmike says:

    “Last night proved that Donald Trump is a disaster for the Republican Party and would ultimately be a disaster for America.”

    -If only Hillary had won the White House, then we would have had the Virginia Governors mansion!

  561. CG says:

    It’s true, “we” would, but that’s not the main point.

    What will you say when the party gets blown out further in Congress and in future Presidential elections? You will blame everyone but Trump.

  562. NYCmike says:

    Trump’s issue is that he has NOT changed. That might be bad. I can easily admit that, since I did not support him until the general election.

    Then, there is Congress, the most powerful Branch in regards to legislation.

    When does “CG” and Robbie decide to take a look at their inability to get anything to the President’s desk to sign?

  563. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:28 am
    It’s true, “we” would, but that’s not the main point.
    What will you say when the party gets blown out further in Congress and in future Presidential elections? You will blame everyone but Trump.

    – Must protect the Trump.

  564. CG says:

    There aren’t enough Republicans in Congress to pass anything to get him to sign that a conservative thinks would be good to sign.

    And the way the trend is going, there will be a lot less of them a year from now. So, Trump will move to the left, embrace Chuck and Nancy, and NYCMike will applaud Trump when he does.

  565. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Trump is up for election in 2020.

    Congress has NOT sent him legislation to sign. How would I blame him for that?

    THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT IN CHARGE OF WRITING LEGISLATION.

  566. Chicon says:

    Just yesterday……

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2017 at 1:03 pm
    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 12:52 pm
    Jonesy he’ll be here tonight or tomorrow talking about Ed winning despite Trump or how Trump caused him to lose.

    – Why don’t you go choke on something orange.

    I have no opinion about this race and I don’t believe it has any bearing on next year’s elections just as the 2013 VA race had no bearing on the 2014 elections.

    The national atmosphere has definitely been a hindrance to Gillispie, but it’s a stretch to say Trump would be responsible if Gillispie loses.

    What a fraud.

  567. NYCmike says:

    “There aren’t enough Republicans in Congress to pass anything to get him to sign that a conservative thinks would be good to sign.”

    -What was wrong with the same bills that Obama VETOED?

    Why were those same bills not sent to Trump?

  568. CG says:

    There’s far more to a Presidency than just legislation, and those other reasons are why Trump is so unpopular and why he is so toxic for so many people in the country (and I fully recognize that Democrats as a party have major problems too. That might be the only thing preventing Republicans from the worst mid-term blowout in history)

    But Trump has co-opted the Republican Party. He owns it and will continue to own it until others in leadership start to stand up to him. Trump is unable to use Presidential leadership to sell anything in terms of legislation. He can barely put together a coherent sentence on any “bill” without a teleprompter. It’s no coincidence that the Trump-Bannon crowd wants to see the Republican Party suffer.

  569. CG says:

    There are less Republicans in Congress now than there were when Obama was President, and thanks to Trump, there are probably going to be a lot less after 2018.

  570. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:29 am
    Trump’s issue is that he has NOT changed. That might be bad. I can easily admit that, since I did not support him until the general election.
    Then, there is Congress, the most powerful Branch in regards to legislation.
    When does “CG” and Robbie decide to take a look at their inability to get anything to the President’s desk to sign?

    – When are you going to realize that Trump is not divorced from the legislative process? Big legislation like Obamacare repeal and tax reform aren’t going to happen under the reconciliation process without presidential leadership. You’re out of your mind if you think otherwise.

    The problem is Trump’s behavior continues to get in the way. First, he never stays on message. He only seems interested in litigating slights, real or perceived, made against him.

    Second, the Republicans repeatedly say they can’t trust what Trump says because he changes his mind 20 minutes later. He praised the House passage of Obamacare repeal only to call it mean a week later. He agreed with McConnell/Ryan on the budget only to change his mind when Chuck and Nancy made their pitch.

    How does anything get done when the president is often divorced from the process and not viewed as trustworthy by his own party?

  571. NYCmike says:

    “But Trump has co-opted the Republican Party. He owns it and will continue to own it until others in leadership start to stand up to him. Trump is unable to use Presidential leadership to sell anything in terms of legislation.”

    -The Congress passed bills thru under a Democrat, President Obama, who then VETOED those bills.

    Do you think President Trump would have VETOED those same bills? YES or NO.

  572. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:31 am
    Just yesterday……
    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2017 at 1:03 pm
    Chicon says:
    November 7, 2017 at 12:52 pm
    Jonesy he’ll be here tonight or tomorrow talking about Ed winning despite Trump or how Trump caused him to lose.
    – Why don’t you go choke on something orange.
    I have no opinion about this race and I don’t believe it has any bearing on next year’s elections just as the 2013 VA race had no bearing on the 2014 elections.
    The national atmosphere has definitely been a hindrance to Gillispie, but it’s a stretch to say Trump would be responsible if Gillispie loses.
    What a fraud.

    – Hey Trump shill. Read what I wrote in 559.

  573. NYCmike says:

    According to “CG” and Robbie:

    A Republican Congress, when Democrat Obama is President, can pass any bill they want, which then got VETOED.

    A Republican Congress, when Republican Trump is President, can’t pass any bill they want, because Trump would sign it.

    GOT IT!

  574. CG says:

    Trump was not in the picture when Obama was President. The Republican Party was better off then.

    Members of Congress who want to try to save their own asses are not able to cast the same votes that they did when Obama was President.

    But again, you exihibit hypocrisy NYC, since you openly advocate defeating Republicans who would vote for the supposed Trump position on health care and taxes while you support their primary opponents who openly would vote against those positions.

    Of course, there is also the matter of the half dozen or so Senate seats Republicans have blown in recent years, because the NYC backed candidates won primaries, only to lose general elections to Democrats.

    So, until you look in the mirror…

  575. DW says:

    VA HOD update:

    “FFX Co Canvass flips narrow lead from Donte Tanner to GOP incumbent Tim Hugo. Hugo picks up 100 votes but canvass continues”

    https://twitter.com/JulieCareyNBC/status/928293396493623299

  576. Robbie says:

    Never forget Chicon, a Trump shill, believed Andrew Napolitano’s claim that Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump. He also believed Rod Wheeler’s claim the DNC murdered Seth Rich.

  577. CG says:

    Take for example Jeff Flake, who almost always has voted “with Trump”, especially on the health care repeal and on the tax issue.

    But since he was critical of Trump in ways *not* related to legislation, NYC and his fellow Trump fanatics decided he had to go, even to Kelli Ward who says, “hell no, I won’t vote for the GOP Obamacare repeal, it doesn’t go far enough” and “hell no, I won’t vote for the GOP tax reform, it doesn’t go far enough”

    So, that’s what’s going to happen when you have complete and utter chaos in the Donald Trump dominated Republican Party.

    Things would improve in a second under Pence, if the “legislation” is what you think actually matters.

  578. CG says:

    And when Roy Moore replaces the current Republican Senator from AL next month (assuming he doesn’t lose, which I think he deserves to), there will be one less vote for the Republican Obamacare repeal and one less vote for the Republican tax reform legislation, all because Republican Trump fans in the party decided that they have priorities other than “legislation.”

  579. NYCmike says:

    The only reason thing I said about Arizona, as with all primaries, is the right for others to challenge.

    The fact that Flake has an 18% approval rating is still something that you have NOT ever explained.

  580. Chicon says:

    577 – nice try. Trump had no impact on the governor race (your words), but a huge impact on the down ballot races? Yesterday there was no mention of the lower races being telling. Today? Vital.

    Btw, Trump did take one on the chin yesterday, as did your establishment peeps. Just showing that you are a poser.

  581. NYCmike says:

    “So, that’s what’s going to happen when you have complete and utter chaos in the Donald Trump dominated Republican Party.”

    -If this man could do this within this short amount of time, then I think he is the least of our issues.

  582. NYCmike says:

    “Trump was not in the picture when Obama was President. The Republican Party was better off then.”

    -Better off under Obama?

    Why? Because then they could act tough by sending the President REPEAL bills, knowing that it would be VETOED? Such strong, brave, courageous souls!

  583. CG says:

    Flake has an 18 % approval rating if you believe PPP (D) push polls. That’s fine if you do, but then you also have to concede that Trump is headed to a landslide defeat by Sanders or Warren, because they show that too.

    Flake is unpopular among Democrats because he is a staunch conservative, and they are mad at him for voting with Trump when it comes to “legislation.” Then, when Flake criticizes Trump on broader matters in regards to leadership and the Presidency, his fans turn on him with unbridled hatred. So, you can see how he might be lacking allies and why he decided he could not win.

    But stop pretending that Trump or his die-hards, in which you definitely act like one NYC, care about actually getting “legislation” through.

    What they care about the is the “fight”, against the left, against the media, and especially against the Republican establishment. Results be damned.

  584. NYCmike says:

    “Things would improve in a second under Pence, if the “legislation” is what you think actually matters.”

    -Got it.

    You defend Senators with thin-skin, but bash the President for his thin-skin.

  585. NYCmike says:

    “But stop pretending that Trump or his die-hards, in which you definitely act like one NYC, care about actually getting “legislation” through.”

    -“CG”,

    The Congress passed bills thru under a Democrat, President Obama, who then VETOED those bills.

    Do you think President Trump would have VETOED those same bills? YES or NO.

  586. NYCmike says:

    Do you think President Trump would have VETOED those same bills? YES or NO.

  587. CG says:

    I “bash” the President, because is an amoral disgrace who is unworthy of the Presidency.

    I have a whole bunch of issues with Pence too, but at least he is sane and would put the country before his own ego.

  588. NYCmike says:

    YES or NO.

  589. NYCmike says:

    Is this a tough question?

    Do you think President Trump would have VETOED those same bills? YES or NO.

  590. CG says:

    The bills related to trade, he would have absolutely vetoed.

    He might have vetoed the Republican health care repeal since he kept calling it “mean.”

    And before he started his own campaign, he called Republican efforts to combat illegal immigration, “diabolical” and “heartless.”

    So, who knows?

  591. CG says:

    Would the Republican Senate candidates you wanted defeated in the primaries have voted to send that legislation to Trump’s desk?

    Yes or no?

  592. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:49 am
    577 – nice try. Trump had no impact on the governor race (your words), but a huge impact on the down ballot races? Yesterday there was no mention of the lower races being telling. Today? Vital.
    Btw, Trump did take one on the chin yesterday, as did your establishment peeps. Just showing that you are a poser.

    – Just keep shilling for Trump, Chicon. Just keep shilling for Trump. I know your adoration for him has clouded your judgment, but hopefully one day your fever will break.

    I didn’t think Trump would be solely responsible for a Gillispie loss and I still don’t think he’s solely responsible for Gillispie’s loss. Gillispie looked totally inauthentic trying to be the patron of Confederate monuments.

    Unfortunately, the results from Virginia were far more devastating than anyone thought. The House of Delegates, which no one thought was in play, now hangs by a thread. A top to bottom sweep like that happens because voters are energized against something.

    The facts changed as the votes rolled in. There’s no way to deny that repudiating Trump was not a big part of what happened in the Virginia House of delegates.

  593. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:56 am
    Is this a tough question?
    Do you think President Trump would have VETOED those same bills? YES or NO.

    – Trump will sign anything put in front of him and that includes the liberal legislation that Chuck and Nancy will put in front of him after 2018.

  594. Chicon says:

    595 – then the Congress should pass what they promised the voters, then run against Trump if he vetoes the bills.

    The following is a sure loser (as you know): “we decided to do nothing because that big meanie Trump didn’t let us”, or “we couldn’t do anything because we didn’t want that rube Trump to get credit”.

  595. CG says:

    There are less Republican votes now then there were when they bills passed when Obama was President.

    And there will soon be even less.

    Republicans run against Trump? As long has he has his Twitter and keyboard soldiers like you? That’s not going to happen unless his polls really, really crash.

    At the least, maybe last night was a wake up call for some of them.

  596. CG says:

    I notice NYC likes to ask questions (which I always answer) but when he gets asked questions, he forgets to respond to them. Hmmm.

    I must return to work! Happy Thanksgiving.

  597. Chicon says:

    598 – Robbie finally catches on. He’ll sign anything – which means that the main reason there haven’t been any significant conservative bills signed is that no significant conservative bills have passed Congress.

    Question…if cooperation with the Executive branch is needed to pass said legislation, how did they pass when BHO was president? I assume we can agree BHO was not cooperative with the gop congress.

  598. NYCmike says:

    Would the Republican Senate candidates you wanted defeated in the primaries have voted to send that legislation to Trump’s desk?

    Yes or no?

    -I want incumbents to be challenged so they consistently keep in touch with the voters.

    I do not seek their defeat, or their success.

    I seek conservative legislators who govern as they campaign.

  599. NYCmike says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    595 – then the Congress should pass what they promised the voters, then run against Trump if he vetoes the bills.

    -BOOM!

    This is too logical for “CG” and Robbie.

  600. NYCmike says:

    “– Trump will sign anything put in front of him”

    -I, as well as Mr. Vito, Tina, lisab, and others, have said this all year.

    The Executive Branch is still waiting for the legislation to reach their desk.

    Constitutionally, they can’t do it themselves, unlike the Democrat President Obama.

  601. NYCmike says:

    “and that includes the liberal legislation that Chuck and Nancy will put in front of him after 2018.”

    -Excuse me, but how many votes will Republicans have in the Senate in 2018?

    If Chuckie is in charge, they still have power.

    Follow Cruz’s or Rand Paul’s lead, they won’t let anything get thru without 60 votes.

    The Founding Fathers knew how to deal with emotional basket-cases like you and “CG”.

  602. NYCmike says:

    “Question…if cooperation with the Executive branch is needed to pass said legislation, how did they pass when BHO was president? I assume we can agree BHO was not cooperative with the gop congress.”

    -Trump tweeted…..Congress can’t pass legislation, and Gillespie lost because of it.

  603. NYCmike says:

    “I notice NYC likes to ask questions (which I always answer) but when he gets asked questions, he forgets to respond to them. Hmmm.”

    -You got your answer.

    And I saw yours.

    There were enough votes to pass the same bills, as the same people there now were there during Obama’s term.

    Some people did NOT want that same legislation sent thru, specifically because Trump would have signed it, despite your ridiculous assertions to the contrary.

  604. MichiganGuy says:

    Charlie Sheen ‘raped 13-year-old Corey Haim on the set of the movie Lucas’, a friend of the late child-actor claims

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5062721/Charlie-Sheen-sodomized-Corey-Haim-13-set-Lucas.html

    Sleezywood. They try to preach morality to us.

  605. Jonesy says:

    Meltdown Corey is now saying the GOP will lose House and Senate?

    He makes one right call in Va last night, and gets cocky.

    Seems to forget he blew every race in 2016, along with Robbie

  606. Trump says:

    The two Jeb coc*suckers are claiming GOP was better off under Obama?

    Cretins, that’s because the lying weasels promised to repeal Obamacare. And the voters gave them the opportunity.

    Which, like the lying corrupt mot herfu ckers they are, they spectacularly proceeded to blow up.

    Enjoy the minorities, morons.

    All Trump is doing is shining the light, and the cockroaches are scattering.

    Faster please.

  607. Jonesy says:

    I wonder how many times here, and at RRH, posters said the GOP would lose the House and Senate in 2016?

    Anybody wanna check that out?

  608. Jonesy says:

    My Korean war vet Father hated McCain. He lived in Phoenix in 2001, and was convinced McCain was going to switch parties because he hated Bush 2.

  609. Jonesy says:

    So I have Robbie and Corey saying GOP will lose Senate and House in 2018?

  610. Trump says:

    Gillespie didn’t want to have Trump campaign with him.

    Great job, Ed. The loss is all yours. Enjoy K-Street.

  611. Jonesy says:

    If you read Corey’s posts today, you would swear they are repeats from the Fall of 2016?

    Corey spews Trump hate, while his IL GOP is about the worst in the Nation.

  612. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 12:41 pm
    Meltdown Corey is now saying the GOP will lose House and Senate?
    He makes one right call in Va last night, and gets cocky.
    Seems to forget he blew every race in 2016, along with Robbie

    – Good call on the Virginia race.

  613. Jonesy says:

    Ironic that RRH today is much more tepid about Dem Chances in 2018 than here with Bed Wetters Robbie and sideshow Corey.

    Many are saying that after final numbers in Va, the Dems did not do so great in rural areas, which the Dems need to win in 2018

    FWIW

  614. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 12:48 pm
    So I have Robbie and Corey saying GOP will lose Senate and House in 2018?

    – I see Trump’s court jester is up to his usual tricks. Where have I said the Senate will turn over?

  615. Jonesy says:

    Well Robbie you were to spineless to make a call on Va, because you wanted to hedge your bets.

    Be a man and tell us, Are you saying the GOP will lose the senate or not?

  616. Jonesy says:

    Put on record Robbie. Your doomer bookend Corey already has us losing 80 House seats and control of the Senate

  617. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 1:00 pm
    Put on record Robbie. Your doomer bookend Corey already has us losing 80 House seats and control of the Senate

    – Why would I make a hard and fast prediction 363 days before an election?

    I’ve said repeatedly if President Moron gets his approval above a 45% average, Republicans will do well. If it he stays below 40%, Republicans will get slaughtered.

    I’ll make a prediction for 2018 in 2018.

  618. Trump says:

    Why does anyone expect Trump voters to show up for a guy who did not want Trump campaigning with him?

    Gillespie loss is not that complicated.

  619. Cash Cow TM says:

    VA House of Delegates…tidbit

    Of the races where a woman was running for a seat
    about 30 of 49 women won.In the 30 I included the transgender guy who now wants to be a gal.
    Some races were filled with female hormones as it was a D woman vs. an R woman.
    ###############################################
    Did not count women running as third party, all of whom lost of course, but sent a strong message.

  620. Robbie says:

    What I will predict is if Trump doesn’t learn the lesson Virginia sent, he’s going to leave the Republican Party in far worse shape than GWB left the it or Obama left the Democrats.

  621. Cash Cow TM says:

    In 4 of the 100 house races the R is ahead by very narrow margins–one the vote difference is about 15 votes…

  622. Trump says:

    you say it like it is a bad thing.

  623. Chicon says:

    623 – do you think Trump’s approval numbers will get to 45%+ if tax cuts are passed (repeal and replace, too)?

  624. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW,

    What is the reason why Rs in the VA House of delegates got slaughtered?

    What were the issues on the state level?

  625. Jonesy says:

    623 and 626. That is fair enough Robbie. Credit when due

  626. NYCmike says:

    Amended:

    “What I will predict is if Trump and Congress doesn’t learn the lesson Virginia sent, they are going to leave the Republican Party in far worse shape than GWB left the it or Obama left the Democrats.”

  627. Jonesy says:

    Corey is predicting doom. Wish Lisa were around to post Corey posts from 2016, saying Trump would cause a Dem Landslide in Congress

  628. NYCmike says:

    Robbie still has not answered,

    Why weren’t those VETOED bills sent to Trump?

  629. Jonesy says:

    Interesting fact, you must admit.

    Last 5 POTUS have lost Va and NJ Governorships in first year of office.

  630. NYCmike says:

    “I’ll make a prediction for 2018 in 2018.”

    -Good.

    And stop wishing for Trump to have to deal with a Congress that sends him NOTHING.

  631. Jonesy says:

    627. Cow, how would that settle if GOP won those races?

  632. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-thomas-raise-think-realized-135936082.html

    -Good job by the Browns…..you don’t hear that very often!

  633. Jonesy says:

    Need a refresh on Us constitution.

    If a Dem House impeaches, does a GOP Senate have to take it up?

  634. Cash Cow TM says:

    Jonsey,

    IDNK…the VA election results site is cumbersome (and they do not denote who is incumbent)…

    I do not feel like scrolling through and counting.

    Ask DW. Maybe he knows the score of how many R and how many D total.
    #############################
    DW did post upthread that a canvas discovered a 100 vote error which brought incumbent Hugo (R) from behind to now ahead by 15 votes. Canvas continues…

  635. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 1:11 pm
    623 – do you think Trump’s approval numbers will get to 45%+ if tax cuts are passed (repeal and replace, too)?

    – I doubt it. The public is judging Trump on his behavior. Unless he changes how he acts, I doubt his approval will see a significant jump. He lost a lot of people right away. It’s a lot harder to change the minds of people who made snap judgments than those who were gradually lost.

  636. Cash Cow TM says:

    D results

    turdless?

  637. Jonesy says:

    Trump was not even at 45% when he won 2016, per MSM polling

  638. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 1:20 pm
    Need a refresh on Us constitution.
    If a Dem House impeaches, does a GOP Senate have to take it up?

    – No

  639. Jonesy says:

    Robbie, what do you think of McSally?

  640. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 1:28 pm
    Robbie, what do you think of McSally?

    – A great candidate who will be tarred and feathered by the Bannon wing and the FoxNews primetime lineup.

  641. Jonesy says:

    If she is the nominee she beats Synema?

  642. CG says:

    JT, you poor schmuck, first of all, my non-Presidential predictions in 2016 were great. I have certainly not claimed the Democrats are going to win the Senate in 2018. You have quite the imagination. I think it would be hard for them to do so , based on the math. That does not mean though that Republicans do not have a Trump problem.

    Will it be enough to flip the House in 2018? I don’t know yet. As always, I will look at all 435 races and predict them before the next election.

  643. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 1:38 pm
    If she is the nominee she beats Synema?

    – In a neutral year, absolutely. If 2018 is a wave for Democrats and the Kelli Ward wing stays home, probably but no sure thing.

  644. CG says:

    My 2016 U.S. House predictions were more pro-Republican than the vast majority of the people posting here, and I got nearly every House race correct.

  645. CG says:

    People are tending to forget that Martha McSally, like Jeff Flake and John McCain, did not vote for Donald Trump. Hence, I hope she wins.

  646. Jonesy says:

    650. BS Corey. You spent the Summer of 2016 preaching doomsday. You hedged your bets in the end, and cried like a baby here on election night

  647. CG says:

    Once again, I was not here on Election Night. You are thinking of Cory.

    I said Trump would lose big and Republicans would hold the House and Senate. It’s all here in the archives and on my own blog. I had Democrats winning less seats in the House than Trump fans here were predicting.

  648. Jonesy says:

    Who is JT? Corey, how long did you go into hiding after Trump won?

  649. Jonesy says:

    I know who the Canadian was Corey. It was you Predicting doom

  650. CG says:

    You are Jason T/JT/Jake.

    I was posting here the day after the election. Actually, at about 1 am I stopped by.

  651. Jonesy says:

    Why did you change your screen name Corey?

  652. Wes says:

    The Trumpkins are acting just like the Hillarybots of last year. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

    The fact remains that as a Republican President, Donald Trump is inextricably tied to the GOP.

    If the national GOP falls over the next three years, so will Donald Trump.

    This is not hard to understsnd, but the Trumpkins want to ignore reality.

    Fair enough. If Trump listens to his fsnboys, then he’ll be out of office on 1-20-2021 while an Obama-style moonbat will be signing reams of far-left legislation.

    Thrn this entire Trump experiment will have been a four-year dead end.

    Yay?

  653. Trump says:


    Cash Cow TM says:
    November 8, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    DW,

    What is the reason why Rs in the VA House of delegates got slaughtered?

    What were the issues on the state level?”

    No specific issue. GOP voters did not show up. That affects downstream votes.

  654. CG says:

    Here is a rundown of the results of all my 2016 predictions, the good, bad, and ugly.

    http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2016_12_16_archive.html

  655. Jonesy says:

    656. Are you saying I am Pennsylvania Jason? Get a grip CG/Corey and whatever your screen name is this week

  656. CG says:

    I changed my screen name a couple days after the election, after saying I was planning to months ahead of time.

  657. CG says:

    No, you are Illinois JT.

    Who are you saying you are? What state are you in?

  658. Wes says:

    And Donald Trump isn’t alone to blame. McConnell and Ryan need to get their act together also.

    VA was an alarm bell. Republicans in Washington need to heed it.

  659. Jonesy says:

    660. Edited. do not care what you posted in november 2016.

  660. Jonesy says:

    Wes, I agree with many of your points from last night, and you are right that this also Trump’s fault.

    I am just glad that we have some time to correct it. Tax Cuts have to pass

  661. Wes says:

    Corey, I honestly see no significant similarities between how Jonesy posts snd how Jason T/JT did.

  662. CG says:

    I find it hard to believe it cannot be seen.

    His bit about Synema being a Lesbian Atheist is word for word what JT used to say about Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin.

    Keep a close eye on how often “Jonesy” capitalizes random words.

  663. Jonesy says:

    Wes, pretty surprised with RRH today. Comments needed to do better in rural areas last night

  664. Chicon says:

    Wes, it seems Ryan took a lesson from yesterday. Says this puts more pressure on congress to pass it’s agenda. Hopefully the warring sides of the party can use this as a way to compromise a bit.

  665. Wes says:

    I’m glad somebody finally realizes Congress isn’t the only object of American ire, Jonesy. 65% of Americans think Trump has accomllished little or nothing since becoming President. His popularity tends to oscillate between the mid 40s snd high 30s.

    Obviously he was a negative factor yesterday. It’s plain to see.

    The Trumpkins want to blame just Congress though and ignore reality.

    They’re just like the Clinton and Obama fanboys. The buck always stops–everywhere but at the President thdy like.

  666. Jonesy says:

    668. you are delusional CG/Corey/Pete Wilson.

    I just asked a political question about Synema to Wes. Did not take a shot at her sexuality.

  667. Wes says:

    Good for Ryan, Chicon.

    Corey, JT referred to Baldwin by the epithet “dyke.” He asked if Synema’s atheism and bisexuality would hurt her in Arizona. He was not vitriolic as J T would have been.

  668. Jonesy says:

    669. sorry, RRH posters saying Dems needed to better in rural areas last night. Trump did not win suburbs in 2016 anyways.

  669. CG says:

    So, what state are you in Jones?

    I notice you never flatly deny you used to post here under different names, which should not even be a big deal, but you try to deflect. Nobody is saying you are using more than one name at a time now.

    And then you just spurt out lies and falsehoods, that you do not even attempt to back up, such as the slander that Robbie made anti-Semitic remarks.

    It’s a mistake for people to even take you seriously.

  670. Wes says:

    I’, not going to read RRH today, Jonesy. The orgasms MosheM, GerGOP, and the rest will be having over finally seeing a Republican lose are things I don’t want to witness.

  671. Jonesy says:

    Wes, I know better than mixing it up with Corey. He is your typical doomer.

    Makes outlandish predictions months before a vote, and then backtracks in the end, like 2016, and now 2018

  672. Jonesy says:

    676. agreed Wes.

  673. CG says:

    So, what state are you in?

  674. CG says:

    I also think I know who “Truther” was. It wasn’t too “hard.”

  675. Jonesy says:

    Iowa, Corey/Pete Wilson.

    Do you want my Street Address also?

  676. Wes says:

    Corey is saying Truther is Author. I don’t see it unless Author became a major asswipe upon leaving. Besides, Truther seemed to have a personal problem with me, which Author never displayed.

  677. CG says:

    If you moved away to there, thank you.

  678. CG says:

    I have my suspicion on Truther, but far, far less certain than Jonesy.

    I would legitimately bet my life that I am correct on him.

  679. Jonesy says:

    Grew up in Arizona. We get all the depressing IL GOP news over here daily.

    Maybe you should make an effort to help IL, CG…. instead of dooming nationally

  680. Jonesy says:

    684. Not much of a life, wanna be blogger

  681. Wes says:

    I don’t see it, Corey. Jonesy lacks the virulent homphobia JT displayed and doesn’t turn every discussion into a referendum on an individual’s perceived support or lack thereof of the GOP.

  682. Trump says:

    The GOP Congress is to blame for VA losses.

    They had 10 months to do what they promised to do.

    The fu ckers did diddly.

    Simple to fix: Pass what you promised, douche@bags.

    They will not, because their donors and their voters do not want the same things.

    That is how they got Trump.

  683. Jonesy says:

    So we need to jump start the GOP for 2018, and Doomer Corey wants to investigate screen names at HHR.

    I would rather listen to analysis by Wes, than posts by a 3rd rate Blue state blogger

  684. CG says:

    I definitely see it. So, he’s trying to moderate himself as to not arouse suspicion, but his outright lying about Robbie saying anti-Semitic things about Jared Kushner say all there is to know about him.

    The very unique capitalization he uses is an easy give away. If people can’t see those similarities, that’s fine, but I have zero doubt.

  685. NYCmike says:

    ” I don’t see it unless Author became a major asswipe upon leaving.”

    -“upon leaving”?

  686. NYCmike says:

    “but I have zero doubt.”

    -That about says it all….

  687. Jonesy says:

    Jason uses the screen name Wobbles. Are you get to report him to the FBI, Corey? LOL

    You must be very defensive on your 2016 summer Glooming Corey/CG

  688. Wes says:

    There we go again.

    As expected, only Congress is responsible for anything bad in the Trumpkins’ minds.

    As things change, so they stay the same.

    Fanboys can never accept the object of their veneration may be flawed. If Trump listens to his fanboys, then he will be the first one-term President in 28 years.

  689. NYCmike says:

    “They had 10 months to do what they promised to do.”

    -How could they do what they campaigned on when the President was tweeting so much?!?!

  690. CG says:

    Anyone who keeps up with Author on Twitter would know he has personal problems with anyone who might have voted for or defends Trump.

    I respect him for that. He ought to show up as himself and let it rip. Same with Cory. (I owe MD money, so who knows if he will ever return.)

  691. Tgca says:

    I think folks have to take a chill pill with all these doomsday scenarios.

    1st, MSM will blow the Dem wins way up and downplay any GOP good news because it fits in their narrative, and that itself can impact polling.

    2nd, no one really expected the GOP to win VA (until wishful thinking the last couple weeks) and especially not NJ.

    3rd, people are accepting certain behaviors of Trump wont change, as he got elected with lower poll numbers than would be expected so I think this is a new reality where polls on Trump don’t matter as much as results from his admin and Congress.

    4th, it’s not such a bad thing to have the GOP worry a bit now because they often get cocky and complacent until they lose. This is a message for Congress to do their job. If they can’t, they deserve to lose. This happens over and over and McConnell and Ryan, especially McConnell are to blame for not bringing their teams together. Trump will sign what they bring him but they must bring him something.

    5th, the Dems are still in disarray and fighting. They’re having a culture war of factions and this is not good for them. Being anti GOP and Trump will not get them elected alone, especially if they continue their move leftward.

    6th, the GOP needs good candidates that can win locally. Gillespie was outperformed down the ticket and that tells you folks either stayed home or did not support him. NJ is very hard to get a GOP win unless there is a huge Dem scandal. Maybe if Menendez gets convicted that will be an opportunity, we’ll see.

    7th, if Congress delivers and the economy continues to do well, it makes no sense that the GOP and Indy’s will abandon the Congress to go back to Obama-like legislators. The GOP has to remind folks about their job opportunities and 401K. I doubt most want to go backwards especially since we know a Dem congress will focus on nothing but impeachment and investigations to suit their radical liberal base.

    8th, all these identity politics of the left are coming home to roost now and I doubt that is where the American electorate wants to go.

    So I say do your damn job Congress and all will be fine in 2018 if the economy continues to do well. The radical left by itself is not enough to win back Congress. They can only do that if the GOP fails to do what they were elected to do and promised to do.

  692. Trump says:

    “Trump did not win suburbs in 2016 anyways.”

    Trump won suburbs 50-45. Better than Romney’s 50-48, and much better than McCain’s 48-50.

    Check the exits.

  693. Wes says:

    I just examined two of his posts, Corry. The closest he came yo JT’s randomized capitalization came in 293 where he used “glooming” as part of a compound nickname for you.

    No clear evidence I see.

  694. Chicon says:

    694 – I don’t think Trump can act any different. Other than personally, what adjustments do you believe Trump should make after last night?

  695. Jonesy says:

    690. Sorry Inspector Gadget. I see you are putting your PHD in Internet Political blogging to good use.

    Capital letters ? Really.

    you are just trying to deflect your embarrassing
    conduct in 2016 Corey. Just own up to it

  696. Jonesy says:

    698. Trump, good point, but does that include exurbs, which I consider more rural

  697. Wes says:

    Author never attacked me personally, Corey, and I wasn’t defending Trump anyway. Besides, I responded to Truyher’s post claiming NeverTrumpers were happy Gillespie lost and drew a first-grade tantrum out of him.

    I don’t knos who Truther is, but I doubt he’s Author.

  698. CG says:

    Just keep watching then if you want. I see it constantly in his posts with the capitalization. He’ll try to be careful today but soon Enough..

  699. CG says:

    I don’t know for sure that Truther is Author, but I see Author’s Tweets and the writing style looks similar.

    I am also pretty sure he dislikes you Wes, but this is only the internet, who cares?

  700. Trump says:

    NYT exits report Big Cities (over 50,000), Suburbs, Small Cities or rural.

    I am assuming they follow consistent definitions across the years.

  701. Wes says:

    One thing I’d say Trump should do is send Pence to Capitol Hill to help hammer out legidlation agreed on by both the Executive Branch and Congress. Part of the problem is that no one’s on the same page. If Congress and ghe White House agree on something and start selling it in unison, then once legislation passes, Trump and Congress will become more popular.

    Maybe instead of tweeting endless personal vendettas, Trump should use his Twitter account as I outlined above to get Americans to back him snd his agenda more fully.

    Just a thought.

  702. Jonesy says:

    704. Corey/CG, have you found the Holy Grail? Or was it Jimmy Hoffa?

  703. Tgca says:

    By the way, I saw exit poll results that said most of the VA votes had nothing to do with Trump influence. Assuming this is accurate, again, I don’t think VA was all about Trump last night as much as it was about VA and the candidates. Of course, there will always be some influence but it doesn’t appear that was the major driver. I really think Gillespie failed to get the base out to the level he needed. De Blasio won in a landslide but clearly that was not a Trump thing. It was a local political trend. Same in Jersey.

  704. Trump says:

    It’s a myth by NeverTrump losers that Trump had trouble in suburbs because of his personality.

  705. Jonesy says:

    Pence, is well said. I could not agree more, Wes. But what about McCain?

  706. Wes says:

    Author and I were Facebook friends and always had corfial discussions both here and there, Corey. If he doesn’t like me now, I don’t know why. I’m not hoing to lose any sleep over it, but it would be a change from his reactions to me when we both posted here.

  707. Trump says:

    Trump should be stepping on GOP Congress’s throats now that they are down.

    Fu ck ers have been playing one-upmanship games for two years.

  708. Jonesy says:

    706. Thanks

  709. Jonesy says:

    713. Trump did that with Judges last week. 6 were confirmed

  710. CG says:

    But did “The Hard Truth” ever attack you?

  711. Wes says:

    McCain will do what McCain will do, Jonesy. I don’t know how to handle him aside from making his vote irrelevant.

  712. Jonesy says:

    Wes, how does Pence go about lining up Collins. Murk, Mccain for tax reform?

  713. Wes says:

    I never interacted with “The Hard Truth,” Corey. I don’t recall if it ever attacked me, but then I rarely saw the handle anyway and don’t mucn care.

  714. Jonesy says:

    704 . Delusional. who sponsors your blog, Corey? Alex Jones

  715. Trump says:

    McCain thinks he should have been president.

    Collins and Murk will sink everything to support Planned Parenthood.

  716. Tgca says:

    In general, the House has been doing a better job at getting things done though they still could use some more focused leadership from Ryan. The problem is the Senate. This is where everything is getting slowed down. I think McConnell needs to give someone else a crack at the job now. He did his time but he is not keeping it together anymore.

  717. CG says:

    George Soros does.

  718. Wes says:

    Collins and Murkowski are easy: buy them off.

    As I said previously, I’d just make McCain’s vote irrelevant.

  719. Jonesy says:

    Drudge is bad today. Propping up the Dems. I hear he hates Paul Ryan.

    Can anybody verify that?

  720. Jonesy says:

    724. True. Pence needs to put heat on the Red State Dems, Wes.

  721. Jonesy says:

    I see 2016 doomer, Erik Erickson, is at again for 2018.

    Moron

  722. Chicon says:

    724 – yep, lots of goodies to hand out in the infrastructure bill, which is also gonna be used to bolster blue collar voters.

  723. Barrett says:

    #561 it would have been better to run an actual candidate who knew what they were doing. 14 of the 17 republicans fit this definition. I excluded trump, Carson, and Paul from those who are fit for office.

    Another reason I don’t post here much anymore. People rush to conclusions.

  724. Robbie says:

    Trump has never realized he’s no longer the NYC real estate developer sitting in his penthouse watching cable news and tweeting. Until he realizes the presidency demands a different persona, a serious persona, this nonsense will continue.

  725. Barrett says:

    And until people get past this blind trust that they’ve placed in trump and those who support him in government, republicans will continue to suffer electoral losses.

  726. Chicon says:

    730 – no kidding. Trump is who he is, and he was elected. Let’s say, for purposes of discussion, that we all agree that Trump is a big problem for 2018. The question is then what do the Republicans do to lessen the negative impact and retain the positive (yes there is a Trump voter new to the gop who is also not a kkk member)?

  727. BayernFan says:

    Would “never Trumpers” feel better about the GOP’s future prospects if Trump switched parties and championed an infrastructure bill with Dems?

  728. NYCmike says:

    “And until people get past this blind trust”

    -Barrett,

    Has he done anything regarding policy that conservative Republicans should blast him on?

    He did have a meeting with Schumer and Pelosi, and you could blame him for that, but the legislation/extension which came from that was agreed upon by a majority of Congress. If it was really bad, Republicans could have, and should have, stopped it.

  729. NYCmike says:

    “Would “never Trumpers” feel better about the GOP’s future prospects if Trump switched parties and championed an infrastructure bill with Dems?”

    -Heh, interesting.

    ALL of a sudden they might find the inner fiscal conservative they usually campaign as……

  730. NYCmike says:

    Barrett,
    Would it have been better to lose to Hillary in 2016?

  731. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 2:49 pm
    730 – no kidding. Trump is who he is, and he was elected. Let’s say, for purposes of discussion, that we all agree that Trump is a big problem for 2018. The question is then what do the Republicans do to lessen the negative impact and retain the positive (yes there is a Trump voter new to the gop who is also not a kkk member)?

    – Honestly, I don’t think there’s much Republicans can do to lessen Trump’s negative impact if he doesn’t change his behavior. Democrats tried to find ways to lessen the impact Obama had on them in 2010 and 2014, but it didn’t matter. Midterms are referendums on the president and his party.

  732. Wes says:

    Maybe Trump should be less Trump and more Reagan, Chicon.

    By that, I mean Trump should take an active hand, partly by courting votes in meetings with members of Congress and partly by having Mike Pence work with congressional leaders to craft legislation, in getting bills passed.

    As it stands now, Trump gives broad ideals but is taking no part in either creating bills or marketing them. This is creating a discordant mess resulting in a do-nothing Congress.

    Reagan got what he wanted because he knew how to get legislators on his side and sell the end product.

    Trump is getting nothing but judges because he’d rather tweet infantile attacks on political opponents than sell his agenda.

    He has Mike Pence in his Administration. Pence has worked both sides of the legislative process as a Congressman and a Governor. Why Trump has never used that experience to advantage I simply don’t understand.

  733. Jonesy says:

    Mike, as said before, RRH is much less gloomy than HHR today.

    Even saying over there, that the GOP is looking to hold Va House at 51-49. I will take it

  734. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 2:59 pm
    Barrett,
    Would it have been better to lose to Hillary in 2016?

    – The “but Hillary” argument expired when the 2016 election ended. It’s time for Trump supporters to demand that Trump take the job with greater seriousness.

  735. Jonesy says:

    Wes, I would rather deal with Tip O’Neill than McCain at this point

  736. Jonesy says:

    740. Judges. Not just Gorsuch, but 8 Circuit Judges, all Federalist.

    And one will be confirmed to DC Court of Appeals by thanksgiving

  737. Jonesy says:

    The real question for 2018, according to RRH, is weather the party of Pelosi can flip any rural trump seats

  738. Chicon says:

    737 – could be. To me, the voting public did not like Obama’s policies, but they liked him. I think the opposite is true of Trump (in a macro sense).

    I think Wes’s suggestions are good, but I also think people’s views on Trump won’t change much. If I’m in Congress, I’m going with the Portman program – do the job well and let the people know about it.

  739. NYCmike says:

    ” Democrats tried to find ways to lessen the impact Obama had on them in 2010 and 2014, but it didn’t matter.”

    -Obama’s negative impact was due to TERRIBLE LEGISLATION.

    Trump’s negative (your word) impact is due to his personal behavior and characteristics.

    The fact that certain people elected to the United States Senate could be so affected by some mean words shows you how far our political leaders have fallen.

  740. NYCmike says:

    “By that, I mean Trump should take an active hand, partly by courting votes in meetings with members of Congress and partly by having Mike Pence work with congressional leaders to craft legislation, in getting bills passed.”

    -Wes,

    I disagree with this, because Trump is NOT an ideological person like Reagan was. He never was, and a real Republican/conservative does NOT want him to be crafting legislation.

    A real conservative/Republican wants bills passed thru a conservative-oriented Congress and sent up to the White House for a final signature.

    THEY HAVE NOT SENT ANYTHING UP THERE!

  741. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    If Trump does start doing that, and bills get passed, then comparisons to Reagan will be warranted.

    Do you think that can happen?

  742. CG says:

    The more unpopular Trump is, the less likely it will be that bills will pass. Trump is unpopular and is unlikely to improve that. This is not rocket science.

    All politicians want to preserve their office above all else. Fair or not, it’s understandable.

    Trump is not someone that can get Democrats to sign on for anything that is actually conservative. That’s because the Dems are very liberal and because they have nothing to fear at home from opposing Trump on all fronts.

    So, to get anything done, you need almost unanimous Republican support.

    One issue is the Freedom Caucus demands on purity and many of them will vote no on just about anything. That’s a problem.

    Then, you have any Republican member in a marginal district, especially after last night, who sees how unpopular these bills might be there or how unpopular Trump is and they aren’t going to risk their seats for him, especially as he calls the bills “mean” and is unable to even attempt to try to sell them as something positive.

    It’s very tough to do something just on a party line vote. Dems did though in 1993 on the Budget and suffered big time in the midterms. Democrats stuck their neck out for Obama on Obamacare, rammed it through, and paid huge prices in both 2010 and 2014.

    So, are Republicans willing to risk that? Obamacare was unpopular when Obama was President and now lo and behold, its a whole lot more popular now than Trump is President.

    The bottom line is that Trump is toxic, maybe not in WV or AL, but in all sorts of swing suburban districts. This is going to be a problem for all on the right every day he is President.

  743. Wes says:

    Why haven’t they sent anything to Trump, Mikey?

    Answer: No one can agree on and market anyyhing.

    That’s why I advocated having Pence make a sojourn to Capitol Hill to help craft lrgislation.

    Once Trump and Congress agree on something and start selling it, the do-nothing perception is at least mitigated, and voters now have fewer reasons to be angry at Washington.

    Expecting Congress to do anything without any direction, especially after yesterday, just isn’t going to work.

  744. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    FWIW, the Hollywood sordid sexual assault scandal just keeps getting more perverse.(And to think this guy was married to the beautiful and sexy Denise Richards!)

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/11/08/bombshell-a-list-hollywood-star-accused-of-raping-corey-haim-at-13-on-movie-set/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  745. NYCmike says:

    “One issue is the Freedom Caucus demands on purity and many of them will vote no on just about anything. That’s a problem.”

    -This is utter and complete b*llsh*t, unless the word “purity” now means granting citizens more options for staying out of Obamacare.

    Obamacare is more popular now because the media started up their stories of sob stories and of millions of insurance policies dropped, and the usual “moderate” Republicans fell for it, and are unable to communicate how short-sighted the media view is.

    Typical Bush-bot – the same way they got “Hands” Bush to sign a tax increase in 1990 (emotion-driven public pressure) is how they got public polling to reflect an increase in support for Obamacare. Same people fall for it every time.

  746. NYCmike says:

    “Expecting Congress to do anything without any direction, especially after yesterday, just isn’t going to work.”

    -Wes,

    I EXPECTED them to NOT NEED direction from Trump since they had 8 years of Obama to prepare themselves.

    What did they do? Spit the bit!

  747. CG says:

    NYC really needs to take a class.

  748. Wes says:

    Maybe I missed something, Mikey, but nothing is currently being fone as Trump and congressional Republicans spiral into an ever-deepening abyss of unpopularity.

    Here’s a thought: Maybe they haven’t been doing things right the last 10 months and need to do something different–something like what I prposed above–to actually do their jobs and avoid a political bloodbath next year.

    Whining because you expected Congress to do something without Trump’s input would be like my whining because I’ve never slept with Vida Guerra or Charissa Littlejohn.

    It’s not going to change the reality of the situation, and it’s a step in the exact opposite direction of the one necessary for achieving the desired goal.

  749. Robbie says:

    The idea a Congress controlled by the president’s party will act without any input from their own president simply defies all logic and all history.

  750. CG says:

    Especially when you have a President who has by far shown himself more willing to attack members of his own party than any in history.

    These Congresspeople are going to look out for themselves in the end. NYC adheres to the Jul model of thinking its better to elect Democrats than a Republican he doesn’t agree with 100 percent.

  751. NYCmike says:

    Wes, Is this a true or false statement?

    Congress DOES NOT NEED any input from any President to send legislation to him/her to get signed.

  752. Trump says:

    “CBO: Obamacare Mandate Repeal Would Reduce Deficit by $338 Billion”

    Does McCain know?

  753. CG says:

    It’s a true statement that the sky is blue in the day and dark at night. NYC knows that much and thinks that makes him a Rhodes Scholar.

    Sometimes it’s cloudy though. Sometimes it’s dusk. Not everything is as simplistic as he wishes it was.

  754. NYCmike says:

    “These Congresspeople are going to look out for themselves in the end.”

    -This makes no sense at all.

    If they had sent Trump the bill they sent Obama, that would have been signed, and the replacement bill would have been being worked on for the last 9 months. Republican voters elected their representatives to do that.

    They would be more popular for doing what they said they would do, instead of going the Bush-Read-My-Lips route.

  755. NYCmike says:

    “Congress DOES NOT NEED any input from any President to send legislation to him/her to get signed.”

    -Actually, the Constitution makes it this simplistic.

  756. Trump says:

    “Dan Rather on Trump Era: “A Perilous, Dangerous Time For The Country,”

    NeverTrumpers, and the fu cked up Bushes, taking advice from Dan Rather.

  757. NYCmike says:

    Is it preferred that the Congress and President are hawking the same legislation? Sure it is.

    IS IT NEEDED? Constitutionally, NOT AT ALL.

    Thanks, “CG”.

    Please go to your GoFundMe page and write otherwise.

    I am sure you will get a lot of Democrat $$$.

  758. Wes says:

    All right, Mikey. You win.

    Trump and Congress just need to keep doing what they’re doing.

    In 38 months when a moonbat Democrat is President with large majorities in Congress, I’ll ask you how your way worked out.

  759. CG says:

    And many of them would then lose their seats next year to liberal Democrats, which judging by history, you and Donald Trump would be fine with.

  760. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 4:39 pm
    Wes, Is this a true or false statement?
    Congress DOES NOT NEED any input from any President to send legislation to him/her to get signed.

    – You continue to repeat this, but it is not the way things work when there is unified control. You’re going to have to accept it. The Republican Congress has ZERO incentive to act on their own because they don’t want to end up on the wrong side of our mercurial president. They passed, at his urging, healthcare in the House and then he called it mean. Why stick their necks out if Trump’s going to chop it off?

  761. Trump says:

    GOP Congress should fold tent and go home.

    Really, not like the AWOL they are currently.

  762. Trump says:

    Why should Trump stick his ne=ck out for the lying cra*weasels like John McCain?

  763. NYCmike says:

    ” simply defies all logic and all history.”

    -Kind of like electing a real estate developer/reality show personality to be President.

    You don’t want him in the White House, but then you, and the political hacks you get lathered up about, NEED him to do their job and write legislation for them.

  764. CG says:

    NYC speaks with the certainty and comfort of a man who has never had to worry about whether or not he will get a paycheck. The Nest has been very good to him. Tough luck to anyone else in any line or work who might have to try to make it on their own.

  765. NYCmike says:

    “and then he called it mean.”

    -is this a serious argument?

    Who are these cowards in Congress that can’t handle such an “attack”?

  766. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 4:47 pm
    ” simply defies all logic and all history.”
    -Kind of like electing a real estate developer/reality show personality to be President.

    – And how has electing someone with no experience in politics worked out? Not well.

  767. Trump says:

    ” And how has electing someone with no experience in politics worked out? Not well.”

    For who, cretin Robbie?

  768. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 8, 2017 at 4:49 pm
    “and then he called it mean.”
    -is this a serious argument?
    Who are these cowards in Congress that can’t handle such an “attack”?

    – You seem oblivious to politics. Tell me how attacking your own party gets results? What results has Ted Cruz gained by attacking his own party?

  769. Trump says:

    It certainly has worked great for Trump.

  770. CG says:

    Have millions of dollars of attack ads run against them and see their job go to a leftist who will vote to implement Single Payer a few years down the road?

    No problem at all. Send a message! If the voters don’t listen to Mark Levin, they don’t count.

  771. Chicon says:

    766 – he keeps saying it because it is true. And they have EVERY incentive to pass conservative stuff – unless they want to leave soon.

  772. Trump says:

    The GOP has no idea what to do.

    All their rhetoric for 8 years were lies.

    8% job approval.

    Enjoy.

  773. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    There is one reason I have always had work, in high school, college, when I lived across on the West Coast: I wanted to work, I enjoy working, and I like making money for myself.

    NOTHING was ever handed to me, especially from my family.

    So please stop with that silly attack because I happen to work with my brothers.

    AND, try to tell me where I have Congress’s role, according to the Constitution, WRONG.

  774. Chicon says:

    Trump is taking attention from a large problem – the moderate v. Freedom Caucus battle in Congress. I believe it would be hard to pass some of this stuff even with JEB! in the big chair.

  775. CG says:

    Of course it was handed to you. You are unfirable. Your performance simply does not matter. I think there is a reason you post on here and your brothers don’t however.

  776. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    November 8, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    766 – he keeps saying it because it is true. And they have EVERY incentive to pass conservative stuff – unless they want to leave soon.

    – You ignore reality with this comment. The caucus is not ideologically aligned. The Freedom Caucus wants purity. The moderates want compromise. There’s only one person who can mediate these differences and that is the president of their own party. As long as he remains disconnected from the process and/or policy illiterate, the differences aren’t going to be settled. That’s just reality.

  777. Robbie says:

    And right on cue…..

    Eli Stokols?
    @EliStokols

    New: Trump’s 10-minute call in to meeting of Dem senators yesterday left the impression he’s not that into the House version of the tax overhaul.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-democrats-will-like-senate-tax-plan-more-than-house-version-1510177692

  778. NYCmike says:

    “– And how has electing someone with no experience in politics worked out? Not well.”

    -Trump is handling the Executive Branch fine, by my count. His cabinet is trying to implement a sane, lawful-based administration of the legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by previous Presidents, he has ordered his administration to ignore any illegal EO’s put forth by Obama, he has asked Congress to review all rules put in place in the last period of time allowable by law, he has sent many choices for judgeships through (using that list that he promised)….etc, etc

    How has Congress, the “political veterans”, handled their Legislative Branch duties?

  779. NYCmike says:

    “And right on cue…..”

    -Shouldn’t this make McCain happy?

  780. CG says:

    Peter King, an early and unapologetic Trump booster is against the Tax Reform bill.

    Why?

    Why isn’t NYC angry at him?

  781. Jonesy says:

    Meltdown Corey talking crap again. Ignore him Mike. He is still in shock from 2016

  782. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Any thoughts on the GOP blow-out win Last night in Utah CD-3? The Resistance Democrat and her allies spent well over $1 million to grab 27% of the vote and lose by 30%.

    – Sure. Utah is not competitive and you know that. Even in a mighty blue wave next year, that seat isn’t going to the Democrats. Stop trying to mix apples and oranges.”

    Utah may not be competitive for the Democrats, but you might be able to make the same arguments for New Jersey and Virginia not being competitive for the Republicans. What may be happening is more polarization, blue states are going bluer and red states redder.

    In 2017 the Republicans have won five congressional elections for open congressional seats held by Republicans, including the one last night. It was not in a district where Trump carried the majority of the vote in 2016.

    Do reluctantly have to agree with this statement: “Gillespie Ran a JEB! Campaign in a Trump World.” Trump is going to need to keep his base energized.

    The Trump movement is intensely personal to Trump, which has to worry other Republican office holders — especially “establishment” Republicans — they won in a coattails effect in 2016; that will not exist in 2018.

  783. CG says:

    Utah is still an anti-Trump state

  784. Jonesy says:

    758. Bingo. Thanks for the info

  785. NYCmike says:

    “I think there is a reason you post on here and your brothers don’t however.”

    -LOL. Yes, we ALL have EXACTLY the same likes and dislikes!

    Next time I am working on Saturday and/or Sunday, I’ll make sure to think of how “CG” knows my exact schedule, in a family business, where I don’t clock in or out.

    Ahhh, to be free of work once the bell goes off….those were the days!

  786. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    782. – “You ignore reality with this comment. The caucus is not ideologically aligned. The Freedom Caucus wants purity. The moderates want compromise. There’s only one person who can mediate these differences and that is the president of their own party. As long as he remains disconnected from the process and/or policy illiterate, the differences aren’t going to be settled. That’s just reality.”

    Have to disagree on this one Robbie, NOBODY could make the Republican caucus in the House work together effectively; it is worse than herding cats. So many of them are purists in their own way — its bedlam.

  787. Jonesy says:

    Wes made the best point of the day. Let Pence take over on tax reform

  788. CG says:

    Yeah, I totally believe you work Saturdays or Sundays.

  789. NYCmike says:

    “Peter King, an early and unapologetic Trump booster is against the Tax Reform bill.”

    -I assume he is against because of the local tax issue.

    Why would I be angry at him for trying to protect his constituents and his job?

  790. CG says:

    I will try to keep an open mind and think that it’s possible.

    Still though, you could run naked down Bay Parkway, and you will not ever lose your job.

  791. Jonesy says:

    Corey, you are very egotistical for someone who predicted a Clinton Landslide.

    Granted we got thumped last night, but Trump has to endure 6+ specials for US House seats in 2017.

    How many did he lose?

  792. CG says:

    So, why aren’t the other people in Congress doing the same thing in their view?

    Why do only Trumpists get a pass?

  793. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    789. “Utah is still an anti-Trump state.”

    He got a majority of the vote there. What do you base your claim? Do you believe Trump will not carry it in 2020?

    I am from Utah; there are strong reservations about Trump in the state, and his abrasive style is not appreciated, but people see the benefit to a lot he has done regarding regulatory reform and economic growth. Am saying this despite the fact I did not vote for Trump.

    The Democratic candidate in the third district made attacking Trump the main theme of her campaign; when all the votes are counted she will have about 25% of the vote.

  794. CG says:

    Trump wasn’t running in those elections.

    Thankfully for the party, they were in heavily Republican districts. Karen Handel, who never mentioned Trump, did a lot better in the district than Trump did.

  795. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    November 8, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Have to disagree on this one Robbie, NOBODY could make the Republican caucus in the House work together effectively; it is worse than herding cats. So many of them are purists in their own way — its bedlam.

    – Now on this, I agree with you. But if we had a president with a 52% or 53% approval rating, I think House members would be more apt to work out some of their differences.

  796. Jonesy says:

    753. NYC Mike really needs to take a class says Corey?

    Does Professor CG have openings on the Clinton victory of 2016 course?

  797. CG says:

    Depends on any theoretical third party effort I Utah in 2020.

    His performance there for a Republican was beyond anemic. Enough people held their nose and voted for him, but he is still very unpopular in Utah. Curtis is a NeverTrumper. I am glad he is going to Congress

  798. Jonesy says:

    800. Always the simpleton answer Corey

  799. CG says:

    I’m not a professor, but I would like to teach a class called- “Trump and Hillary Both Suck”

  800. Jonesy says:

    803. Delusional. Now CG saying Utah in play for 2020.

    Let the Grownups speak Corey

  801. NYCmike says:

    “Yeah, I totally believe you work Saturdays or Sundays.”

    -Heh. Wow, the ignorance is unbelievable.

    Have you ever worked with your family, or for yourself, signing all of the vendor’s checks before your own?

    Have you had to take out a personal loan to pay bills when the business emergency fund got depleted?

    Have you given employees raises, or let someone know there is no work?

    The best thing to do is to forget how I am employed, and try again to tell me how the Executive Branch is in charge of legislation. .

  802. CG says:

    Why does Pete King get a pass for opposing “legislation” but others don’t?

    It seems like the answer is because he was on Trump’s Team when someone like Flake, who would vote the way NYC claims he wants is not.

    It’s a canard. It’s not about “legislation”, it’s about personal loyalty to Trump.

  803. Jonesy says:

    No you are not a Professor CG. Most accurate thing you said all day

  804. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    810 “Now on this, I agree with you. But if we had a president with a 52% or 53% approval rating, I think House members would be more apt to work out some of their differences.”

    They may be incorrigible, nothing will help.

  805. Phil says:

    California NAACP pushes for doing away with the national anthem. Calls it racist.

    Did you not see this coming? The left continues to push to wipe out our traditions one step at a time.

    Racist my ass.

  806. CG says:

    I don’t think Utah is in play in 2020, but I also tend to think Trump will not be running in 2020 anyway. Time will tell.

  807. NYCmike says:

    “So, why aren’t the other people in Congress doing the same thing in their view?”

    -Let me hear the reasons they give.

    Mccain on Healthcare – 1) no replacement, and he didn’t have one ready to go, despite 30 years in Senate seat. 2) bipartisanship is needed.

    McCain on Taxes – DOA. Why? Still waiting.

  808. CG says:

    You have admitted on here before NYC, that you have never gone without a check.

    That’s the American Dream. I don’t begrudge you for it, but you are far too willing to not see the big picture as it relates to why someone in Congress might want to keep their job.

  809. Phil says:

    F McCain and the horse he rode in on.

  810. CG says:

    I remember a couple of years ago, when Obama was President, and a conservative poster here said they could no longer stand for the anthem or honor the flag…

  811. Phil says:

    I want to see which Democrats in congress step up and sponsor doing away with the anthem.

  812. Jonesy says:

    McSally has no chance if McCain votes against Tax reform Phil. He is her mentor.

    Hopefully the old crank realizes that and helps her win

  813. Jonesy says:

    Any updates on Va HOD recounts?

  814. CG says:

    I still cannot get an answer as to why Peter King gets a break from NYC and a theoretical Congressman from suburban Philly in a district Hillary won by 10 points does not.

    Is it about Trump the man or “legislation?”

  815. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    803. There is no third party movement on the horizon in Utah in 2020. I was NEVERTRUMP, but this time around I would hold my noise and vote for him over any of the prospective Democratic candidates. Trump will likely win Utah by a large margin in 2020.

  816. Phil says:

    McCain doesn’t give one about McSally or any other Republican. What is important to McCain is to derail anything that might play well so as to cultivate the adulation of his stooges in the MSM.

    It’s all he ever cares about – that and getting his mug on the Sunday shows.

  817. Trump says:

    ” CG says:
    November 8, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    Trump wasn’t running in those elections.

    Thankfully for the party, they were in heavily Republican districts

    Then what the fu*ck are are bleating about Trump and VA?

    Trump was not running yesterday, and VA is a solid blue state.

  818. CG says:

    Talking about the previous House races, Browns fan.

  819. CG says:

    McCain is actually a conservative and Trump is not.

  820. Phil says:

    Sure he is. That’s why he wants to blow up tax cuts. Makes perfect sense.

  821. Trump says:


    CG says:
    November 8, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    I don’t think Utah is in play in 2020, but I also tend to think Trump will not be running in 2020 anyway. Time will tell.”

    Why do you keep making bonehead predictions, idiot?

  822. CG says:

    Where does he say he wants to blow up tax cuts?

    Has he already taken a position?

    What about Pete King and Darrell Issa? They came out against the bill. Do they get a pass?

  823. Phil says:

    Nobody gets a pass – including the great war hero.

  824. Trump says:


    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    McSally has no chance if McCain votes against Tax reform Phil. He is her mentor.

    Hopefully the old crank realizes that and helps her win”

    The old crank is too far gone to care.

  825. CG says:

    How are your Senators going to vote?

  826. Phil says:

    Cornyn and Cruz are a yes.

  827. CG says:

    Ted Cruz is now on record as being against the tax bill.

    What should he do to his horse?

  828. Robbie says:

    It amazes me the amount crap McCain gets, but Rand Paul, who never votes for anything, continues to get a pass.

  829. CG says:

    NYC’s silence on Pete King says it all.

    As long as one praises Trump in the macro, they can vote anyway they want. It’s not about “legislation” at all.

  830. Phil says:

    He’s opposed to it in its present form. He’ll vote for the final bill I’m absolutely positive. McCain? No way. It’s his chance to be a hero again to the left.

  831. CG says:

    He’s opposed to it now. You are just making assumptions.

    What will you say about Cruz if he continues to be a no?

  832. CG says:

    Rand Paul and Tom Cotton, also opposed.

    That is why Trump is trying to cut deals with Democrats now.

    Is that going to get Cruz to come onboard?

  833. Trump says:

    Who believes that this GOP Congress will deliver tax reform?

  834. Phil says:

    He won’t. He is up for reelection for one thing…..but I’m not going to argue with you. If you want to kiss McCain’s ass be my guest. Not me. I’ve watched his act for the last twenty five years now. I know from past history exactly how this game ends with him. Seen him operate too many times – such as his vote with Daschle and the Democrats against the Bush tax cuts. Have seen movie before.

  835. CG says:

    McCain and Cruz have exactly the same position on the bill.

    if someone lives in AZ and cares enough, call McCain’s office, but if you live in Texas and actually care about a bill and not just insulting an “anti-Trumper” call Cruz’s office.

  836. CG says:

    Was Trump in favor of the Bush tax cuts?

    You saw that movie too and think the ending will be different.

  837. CG says:

    Ted Cruz doesn’t really have much of a race to worry about, so he can vote no on the tax bill, and as long as he plays nice to Trump personally, nobody will care.

  838. Phil says:

    Did I miss something? Did Trump come out against a tax cut. If it doesn’t fly it will hardly be because he is standing in the way or opposing a tax cut.

  839. Robbie says:

    Ted Cruz shut down the government in a fake effort to defund Obamacare. Therefore he gets a pass on everything. He fights.

  840. Trump says:

    you keep making assertions about the future that never pan out, stupid.

    at some point, even a slug catches on.

  841. Phil says:

    Really? Cruz is a slam dunk. I thought Texas was on the cusp of turning blue. I heard it on MSNBC.

  842. Phil says:

    Tell me, Robbie. Is there a Republican you like….outside of McCain, Flake, Hagle, McMullin and of course, Jeb?

  843. CG says:

    Cruz is the one incumbent Republican Bannon isn’t going after, so they don’t care about his no vote on tax reform. As long as he doesn’t criticize Trump, that’s all they care about.

    Ok, sorry if I was a jerk to NYCMike, but he is a hypocrite, that I can’t help. Goodnight.

  844. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 8, 2017 at 5:54 pm
    Tell me, Robbie. Is there a Republican you like….outside of McCain, Flake, Hagle, McMullin and of course, Jeb?

    – Wow. Throwing lots of fake news at me. Hagel? McMllin? Ha!

    I like Ryan, Romney, Jeb, Rubio, Portman, Thune, Toomey, Scott, Walker, Condi Rice and others.

    I don’t like Tea Partiers.

  845. Jonesy says:

    850. You are the biggest hypocrite here Corey

  846. Jonesy says:

    Rand Paul voted for the skinny repeal, that McStain rejected with his pal schumer

  847. Jonesy says:

    I just want to know what Murkowski is on Taxes?

  848. Jonesy says:

    I agree with Phil. Cruz is up in 18. He will be a yes in the end.

    Give Pence the hammer to go after Red state Dems. Take a roll call vote and expose them

  849. Trump says:

    Is tax reform part of 2018 govt funding bill? Or will they do another 3 month CR?

  850. Trump says:

    Who thinks Pence is some kind of force?

    The guy barely won in 2012 (by 3 points in ruby red Indiana) and was struggling in 2016 (in ruby red Indiana) before Trump called.

  851. Jonesy says:

    Deep Blue State Corey, trying to tell Texan Phil about his own state.

    Just Rich

  852. Jonesy says:

    NW Ind heavy Dem. Obama on ticket in 2012. Murdoch drove Pence down also

  853. Jonesy says:

    Pence was a great addition to ticket. He also helped Trump win Rust belt. Iowans love Pence

  854. Trump says:

    Pence 2012: 49.5% – 46.6%

    Polls 2016:

    Bellweather Research May 11-15, 2016
    Mike Pence (R) 40
    John Gregg (D) 36

    WTHR/Howey April 18–21, 2016
    Mike Pence (R) 49
    John Gregg (D) 45

  855. Trump says:

    Doesn’t matter why.

    He barely snuck in.

  856. NYCmike says:

    “You have admitted on here before NYC, that you have never gone without a check.”

    -That’s a new one.

    I traveled for 6 glorious weeks across this United States, about 7000 miles in total, roughly.

    I know I wasn’t working then, and my travels are not a secret……I DEFINITELY NEVER said those words you said that I said.

    Once I started looking for work, of course, I started getting paid again….can’t keep a good man down for long! 🙂

  857. NYCmike says:

    “Ok, sorry if I was a jerk to NYCMike, but he is a hypocrite, that I can’t help. Goodnight.”

    -No need to apologize.

    Like Trump, I accept you for whom you are.

  858. NYCmike says:

    “can’t keep a good man down for long!”

    -That’s what she said!

  859. Jonesy says:

    Trump, Mike and I are battling concern Doomers Robbie and CG/Corey, and you are ripping Pence?

    Pick your battles man

  860. Jonesy says:

    WTOP

    Va GOP says they will keep State House 51-49. Looks like Tim Hugo won.

    FWIW

  861. lisab says:

    Lisab is calling me fat. Whatever.
    ————————–

    i called you jolly

  862. George says:

    Rush today on the Donna Brazile book and tour:

    CALLER: I have a guess as to what you were thinking about the Donna Brazile book. My opinion is I think that she’s in cahoots with the Obamas and I think Michelle is gonna take a run at this and she’s trying to get the Clintons out of the way.

    Rush: I think this is exactly what’s going on here. I think Brazile is clearing the decks and setting it up that she’s gonna run the Michelle Obama campaign for president.

  863. Wes says:

    I think it’s clear now:

    Trumpkins aren’t interested in governing. They’re interested in blaming non-Trump Republicans for lack of action on anything in Washington.

    I proposed a way to get something done, and the Trumpkins universally shot it down.

    That says it all.

  864. Jonesy says:

    George, if Rush knows this, so do the Clinton’s

  865. lisab says:

    However, as I sat at the polls yesterday, I heard many people complaining about Trump. Nobody was talking about Congress.
    ————————————-

    probably because people like yourself, the establishment side of the gop, showed up at the polls

    the trump supporters, did not

    and would not for a candidate like gillespie

  866. Jonesy says:

    870. I did not turn it down Wes. I know many Trump voters who would like to see Pence involved.

    But they also see John McCain as a POS

  867. Jonesy says:

    Lisa, Ed was a good candidate, but I never knew he barely won the Primary

  868. Jonesy says:

    Hillary going down hard, drags the Obama’s down with her.

    She was his Sec Of State and heavily campaigned for her

  869. Wes says:

    You actually said I made a good proposal, Jonesy. Mikey and Trump both were mortified at the idea that Trump might want to show some leadership to get congressional Republicans to pass his agenda.

  870. Wes says:

    McCain is not in the GOP leadership, Jonesy. Pence should negotiate with McConnell and Ryan and the appropriate committee chairs while McConnell and Ryan pay off the soft members to get the legislation passed.

  871. Jonesy says:

    I think it would be good if Trump was a little humbled after last night. Hopefully Gen Kelly will make him see that he needs to show a little sugar to get taxes done.

  872. Wes says:

    I know, I know. I’m advocating using pork to get a bill passed. That’s how Washington works. Everything is quid pro quo.

  873. Jonesy says:

    877. Agreed.

    IRS Commissioner and Obama rat leaving office Thurs. His last gesture is too enforce Biz Mandate on Obamacare.

    rumors are Trump is going to use EO to dump ind mandate soon

  874. lisab says:

    I am confident though that the GOP will not learn the right lessons and will keep stumbling into 2018. dw
    ———————————–
    i am pretty confident of that myself

  875. Jonesy says:

    Especially Murkowski Wes. The pork queen like her father

  876. Jonesy says:

    Well Lisa. Very simple. If Paul Ryan wants to stay Speaker, he must use his clout on Senate Moderates to get taxes done

  877. Wes says:

    That’s how the game is played, Jonesy. Even Reagan had to pay people off. We may not like it, but it’s the reality of the situation.

    Of course Reagan got his agenda passed by showing leadership and being shrewd in his dealings with Congress.

    65% of Americans feel Trump has few or no accomplishments.

    Why not go with what worked in the past?

    Obviously ghe way Trump is currently doing things isn’t working.

  878. Tina says:

    7 new sealed indictments.

    TIck tock.

  879. Jonesy says:

    Spot on Wes.

  880. Tina says:

    Total of 31sealed, which may or may not be related to muh russian.

  881. Jonesy says:

    885. Wow Tina. What is up?

    Stunned. Larry Sabato saying Va results were no deal for 2018. Dems still lag badly in rural areas. Wow

  882. Tina says:

    He cannot dump it outright. He can inly slow or delay enforcememt. It is jn the statute.

    He can put the useless drat controlled congress under obumbkercare by doing away with the exemption. That is not in statute.

  883. Tina says:

    Read that, jonesy about sabato.

  884. Jonesy says:

    Larry S, Tina? he is great

  885. Robbie says:

    The end of earmarks has not helped the legislative process.

  886. Tina says:

    I think it is related to fusion, paying of money aka bribing, etc.

    I saw a lot of news on comedy, fbi entrapment, etc.

  887. Jonesy says:

    K Street about to get blown up. Hope podestas are in on it

  888. Tina says:

    Yes, lary s.

    The fbi accidentlky disclosed that comedy intentionally leaked classified information to his friend, through the ny times.

    Tick tock. Tick tock

  889. Wes says:

    What do you think of my proposal of having Trump adopt the Reagan strategy for passing legislation, Robbie?

  890. Tina says:

    There is always a bigger fish to fry.

  891. Tina says:

    AT least the chinese allowed trump to exit the plane through the front and not the rear.

    They despised the ibumbker.

  892. Tina says:

    RAnd oauls neighbor confirms that the soon to be felony assault was due to the dipsheot ahole neighbor being anti trump and anti r.

  893. janz says:

    I’m disappointed in the VA governor race outcome. Somehow, I thought G would be able to pull it out, especially because of Northem’s stance on higher taxes and VA being a sanctuary state. It amazes me how much balony people will accept just to appease the democrat party’s party line!

  894. Trump says:

    “Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    Trump, Mike and I are battling concern Doomers Robbie and CG/Corey, and you are ripping Pence?

    Pick your battles man.”

    Two things:

    1) Why are you “battling” the two Jeb coc*suckers? You just need to mock and insult those cretins.

    2) You “battling” those two idiots. What do you want me to do?

    3) Re Pence – just pointing out facts. He is not some juggernaut. His electoral record is fairly third-rate, given which state he is in. Who would listen to him?

  895. Trump says:

    “Trumpkins aren’t interested in governing.”

    Got it as* backwards.

    GOP is not interested in governing. 10 months with nothing to show for it.

    Trump seems to be the only one doing his job.

  896. Marc says:

    I’ve have returned here after many months away to ring the alarm.

    Bottom line takeaway from yesterday VA GOP massacre: get used to the idea of “Speaker Nancy Pelosi” come January 2019 unless something radical changes. The Senate is safe b/c of an incredible map.

    The fundamentals here are just brutal for the GOP in the upcoming midterms. Combined w/prior evidence from specials, no pretending now. Anyone who tells you otherwise–on Twitter, Facebook, Breitbart, etc.–is either deluded or lying to you to retain your readership or for money. It really is just that simple.

    An enormous storm is coming. Democrats are wildly motivated to register their hatred for Trump, moderates are disgusted, and his base is depressed by failure to deliver. Suburban districts in Ohio, PA,NY, NC,GA, FL, TX, CA, CO, ILL, MI are very much at risk unless and until something changes.

  897. Marc says:

    The blessing in all this is that it’s 1 year that Republicans have to get ready for his possiblity and fight against it. But to deny it, is to fall into the same pattern that the Obama Democrats of 2009/2010 fell into.

  898. Trump says:

    8% approval rating has consequences.

  899. lisab says:

    in ww2 the usa lost a lot pf bombers over germany

    the did a study to figure out whete they should put more armour

    the looked at the damaged planes that made it back and found that many had gaping holes in their wings but generally their engines were mostly undamaged

    now a smart man might increase the armour on the wings, but these were very smart men, so they increased the armour on the engines … why?

    the planes with gaping holes on their wings actually still made it back, but planes with damaged engines did not

    so … when you say that all the republicans AT THE POLLS were complaing about trump and not one was complaining about congress … it is because the trump supporters did not show up and the never trumpers did

    which indicates that it is in fact those trump voters’ complaints you should be concerned about

    if you want to end the civil war then stop shooting

  900. Trump says:

    I kept asking these lying cra*weasels: “what will be your platform for 2018?”

    “Repeal Obamacare”, their battle cry for 4 cycles, is dead as a message. Thanks to GOP Congress.

    So what is the message?

  901. Trump says:

    “Repeal Obamacare? Oops, didn’t meant it” is not a winner.

  902. janz says:

    Wes would be one poster to consult about the vulnerability or viability of the R congressional map in 2018. Everyone, though, keeps warning the House to come together, do something productive or expect to lose control of the house next year.

  903. Trump says:

    Maybe GOP should run on “Make America Great Again”

    Ha ha ha ha

  904. Trump says:

    It worked for someone recently.

  905. Phil says:

    903

    Texas suburban districts will be just fine.

  906. lisab says:

    waaaaaaaaah … all those deplorables are too stoopid to come out and vote for our establishment candidate!!!!

    those deplorables suck!!!

    they should end the civil war 🙂

  907. janz says:

    I personally don’t understand how disjointed the house and Senate Republican majority currently is. For all being under the same political party tent their opinions and loyalties are all over the map. It’s discouraging to see.

  908. lisab says:

    i am a moral person so i did not vote for trump

    but all you immoral trump supporters should vote for my candidates

    stop the civil war you basket of deplorables … i know you are immoral but now vote our way

  909. Trump says:

    Their opinions and loyalties are to their donors and nobody else.

    That is why their own voters hate them. That’s how they got Trump.

  910. lisab says:

    most senators are safe this election so they just dont care

  911. Trump says:

    I keep pointing out that the antics of dipsh*t morons like McCain, Corker, Flake, Collins et al are only hurting schlubs like Strange and Gillespie.

    These idiots are too dense to see that.

    Well, enjoy 8% approval ratings.

    There’s still more room to fall, it’s not rock bottom yet.

  912. lisab says:

    a lot of room to fall especially since at this point the never trumpers’ message is …

    ok ok … this civil war is hurting us, we wont support tax cuts, a wall or repeal obamacare …

    but … i guess after va we will let you support us and our agenda

  913. Trump says:

    I think Trump should keep up the beatings until morale improves.

  914. lisab says:

    i love to be the bearer of bad news …

    the trump supporters really dont care gillespie lost

  915. Wes says:

    Hm.

    A certain poster can’t read polling, it seems. While Congress is far from being in good shape, it is not at 8% in approval:

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx

    Of course 65% of Americans say Donald Trump has few if any accomplishments as President.

    Maybe Trump and Congress should get together and do something–like, say, craft and pass legislation–to change that.

    No. The Trumpkins have already said Trump shouldn’t work with Congress to do anything.

    Well, I hope the Trumpkins are happy if Trump follows their advice and becomes Herbert Hoover 2.0.

  916. Jonesy says:

    904. My thoughts exactly marc. Thankfully these elections were not in the spring of 2018

  917. Wes says:

    I’ve noticed, Lisa. When I suggested Trump and Congress should work together to–gasp!–get something done, the Trumpkins rejected my proposal.

    They’re not interested in governing. They’re only interested in propping up their ideal of Trump.

    Good luck with that when we get Obama 2.0.

  918. Trump says:

    Let’s have a race to the bottom.

    I guess Congress will get there first, being up first in 2018.

    Trump has 3 years to do something, GOP congress has 3 months.

    Keep beating the lying weasels every day.

  919. Trump says:

    Trump is the only one governing.

    No amount of alt-history will pass any bill.

    10 months, and nothing but circle jerk in congress.

    keep it up.

  920. Wes says:

    The Trumpkins really think Donald Trump won’t go down with every other Republican in 2020 if things continue on their current trajectory.

    I’m guessing they believe Bigfoot, the Yeti, Champ, Morag, Ogopogo, and gray space aliens with anal probes exist too.

  921. Trump says:

    Maybe he will, it is 3 years away.

    2018 is 1 year away, and gop congress is on the run.

    Maybe the fu ckers could get a bill passed, you’d think.

  922. Wes says:

    65% say Trump has no accomplishments. Good luck getting reelected with that perception and a 38% approval.

    Not going to happen even in the Trumpkin land of elves, fairies, and unicorns.

  923. Charles says:

    And the death of America continues. Marxists gaining and there’s nothing we can do about it. It’s a slow painful death.

    RIP USA. It was a nice ride.

  924. Charles says:

    And the kicker is that it is so-called Republicans that produced Trump! Unbelievable. Talk about shooting yourself in the head. That’s what Republicans did while the Marxists smiled. Truly sad what is happening here.

  925. Trump says:

    Maybe the douche from AZ could step up and pass a tax reform bill.

    Instead of preening that “Tax Reform is DOA in the Senate”.

  926. Trump says:

    “John McCain Confirms: Tax Reform Is “DOA In The Senate””

  927. Wes says:

    Or maybe Trump could be presidential and lead–you know, like Reagan–and work with Congress to get something done. That would require leadership though–and the Trumpkins are interested only in bombthrowing.

    I hope the real Donald Trump is more profoundly perspicacious than his fanboys.

  928. lisab says:

    They’re not interested in governing. They’re only interested in propping up their ideal of Trump.

    Good luck with that when we get Obama 2.0.
    ——————-

    not caring is just another way of saying they have nothing to lose

    what … will the never trumpers outsource fewer jobs or insult them less if they vote for an anti-trump agenda?

  929. Tina says:

    https://t.co/aU89B4HfzA

    Scream ar the sky loons.

  930. Trump says:

    You keep bleating about governing.

    Trump is the only one doing his job.

    What has the GOP Congress done?

  931. lisab says:

    you could try insulting the trumpers more

    maybe then they will come put to vote 🙂

  932. Trump says:

    Trump is the only one doing his job.

    What has the GOP Congress done? 10 months, what is the record?

  933. Trump says:

    About 300 of them in total, sitting around all day jerking each other off.

    Anything else?

  934. Wes says:

    Or maybe Trump could have Pence help craft a bill and get enough votes to make McCain irrelevant.

    Congress has its problems, but a White House that’s refusing to get involved is not helping.

    I actually want Trump to succeed; however, that requires a change in strategy. The current way Trump and the congressional GOP are doing things clearly isn’t working.

    No surprise really. There’s no coordination or attempt to put together anything mutually acceptable on either side.

  935. Trump says:

    There are not enough idle hands in Congress to craft a bill?

    What do they do all day?

  936. Truther says:

    I actually want Trump to succeed; however, that requires a change in strategy. The current way Trump and the congressional GOP are doing things clearly isn’t working.

    Enlightening, mental midget.

  937. Trump says:

    I want Trump to succeeed in driving out all lying corrupt weasels.

    He started with 17 on GOP side, continued with Hillary, and now Corker and Flake.

    Should move faster. Maybe 2018 will hasten the process.

  938. Truther says:

    How many elections have you blown in a year?

  939. Trump says:

    What does the Chinless Turtle do all day?

  940. Wes says:

    Trump is doing his job?

    In what universe?

    Gloating about how Ed Gillespie lost for not embracing him is hardly doing his job.

    Again, I point you to the poll you keep ignoring.

    65% say Trump has no accomplishments.

    That plus a 38% approval rating does not equal reelection.

    Ryan and McConnell need to step up too, but Donald Trump definitely needs to since he’s the putative leader of the party and should be taking an active role in the process.

  941. Trump says:

    Maybe he is not interested in reelection.

    At least that’s what some of the finest mind here believe.

  942. Wes says:

    Ah, Truther arrives. I can always count on the poster with a five-year-old mentality to give me a laugh.

  943. Trump says:

    Keep laughing.

    VA will happen on a larger scale.

  944. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…what do you think of McSally?”

    If McSally does not go buy a ford Mustang and drive it around campaigning, and using the song “Mustang (Mc)Sally” as the theme song for the campaign then a big opportunity has been lost.

  945. Trump says:

    I have been assured by the keenest minds here that Trump will not run for reelection.

  946. Jonesy says:

    Truther is Author?

  947. Wes says:

    Well, if Trump isn’t interested in reelection, then he’s doing a damn good job of accomplishing a loss.

    Maybe he, McConnell, and Ryan should work together to get something accomplished besides judges.

    Profound thought, I know.

  948. Charles says:

    Trump and Reagan in the same sentence? Blasphemy. The Orange Fool is a complete buffoon and couldn’t carry Reagan’s jock.

    Marxist wave
    Obamacare more popular than ever
    Conservativism going into the abyss

    But yeah, we won in Utah and held the VA House of Delegates!! Orange Fool, phuck you azzhole

  949. Jonesy says:

    Wes, were are you getting the 38%? Rcp did blow the electoral college in 2016

  950. Trump says:

    Maybe McConnell and Ryan could get something passed.

    Like it’s in their job description.

    Or maybe not.

  951. Phil says:

    You would think Republicans in congress and Trump would work together for their mutual good. That would be the sane thing to do. Unfortunately, neither is interested so they could both go down together.

    Of course, I recognize that the Flakes, McCains, Corkers, and the idiot from Nebraska want Trump gone. That seems to be their number one priority. Sad. Schumer smiles.

  952. Trump says:

    Trump should keep away from these losers.

  953. Wes says:

    It was the last job approval number I saw for Trump, Jonesy. It could be higher or lower now. I really don’t care to look it up. Regardless, Trump isn’t Mr. Popularity in part because Americans think he hasn’t done anything.

  954. lisab says:

    No surprise really. There’s no coordination or attempt to put together anything mutually acceptable on either side.
    ————-
    the never trumpers wont help trump in any way

    no wall
    no tax cuts for the working and middle classes
    no repeal of obamacare

    they have zero reason to help the “gope” as its called

  955. Wes says:

    One would think that, Phil. So far, one would be wrong.

  956. Jonesy says:

    Lisa, as a strong trump supporter, i am very unhappy gillespie lost.

    I also agree with wes that trump should work better with congress and involve pence. As many of my friends feel the same way

  957. Paul says:

    Any more scoops on the indictments, Tina?

  958. Jonesy says:

    960. Fair enough Wes

  959. Trump says:

    “We maintain our view that tax reform is unlikely this year or next.” – UBS

  960. Jonesy says:

    Wes, did the political class predict the gop losing the house in 2000 and 2002?

  961. Jonesy says:

    Ubs is swiss bank. Eurotrash

  962. Trump says:

    So are you predicting that there will be tax reform?

  963. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 8, 2017 at 7:21 pm
    What do you think of my proposal of having Trump adopt the Reagan strategy for passing legislation, Robbie?

    – I agree with it. I’ve been arguing since last Winter and early Spring that Trump needed to tone down his act and turn over a lot of the day-to-day “presidenting” to Pence. Pence is an effective elected official. He has experience as a legislator and an executive. He’s a big plus.

  964. Jonesy says:

    I am hearing rico type indictments on k street. Both parties, including podestas and former gop rep vin weber

  965. Trump says:

    Pence is a cipher.

    Nobody listens to him.

  966. Jonesy says:

    Trump, i think paul ryan will push it thru in the end. For his own sake

  967. Trump says:

    That’s what they said about repealing Obamacare.

    And Ryan doesn’t run the senate.

  968. Jonesy says:

    Could be wrong , but a vacancy on supreme court could excite gop base before 2018 vote

  969. Tina says:

    Nope, paul, other than its a hih number, 7 in one day.

    Could be racketeering.

    Could be related to the saudi crackdown.

  970. Trump says:

    And whatever happened to the 2018 spending bills?

    Isn’t that supposed to be passed by Dec 15?

  971. Tina says:

    Are tax cuts still doa. How can real con mccain te agains tax cuts.

    Oh wait, 2001and 2003?

  972. Trump says:

    Or will they pass another CR for 3 months?

  973. Trump says:

    And when is the next debt ceiling raise drama scheduled? March?

  974. Jonesy says:

    Why would mcsally give up her house seat for the senate, if she thought her pal mccain would dk tax cuts? That is his girl

  975. Robbie says:

    As much as he needs a mid course correction, I’m dubious Trump will alter his behavior. And let’s be clear. It’s Trump’s behavior that is causing all of the problems.

    That said, Trump remains the person he has always been. He’s mercurial, erratic, and he’s governed by grievance. His Twitter feed is basically one long Festivus airing of the grievances.

    Most concerning for those like me who want to see Trump course correct is the Mueller investigation. More indictments, whether next week or next month, are coming and close confidants like Flynn and possibly even Kushner and Trump Jr. could get swept up. That possibility is going to leave Trump in a near permanent state of rage.

  976. Tina says:

    We have a psychologist on stsff.

  977. Trump says:

    You keep repeating the same cra* over and over, cretin.

    It doesn’t smell better with age.

  978. Trump says:

    Why would Trump need a course correction?

  979. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 9:49 pm
    Why would mcsally give up her house seat for the senate, if she thought her pal mccain would dk tax cuts? That is his girl

    – I suspect McSally has looked at the polling and probably concluded 2018 is going to be a really rough year for House members. She may well feel her House seat is either not winnable in this environment or the Senate race is just easier to win in this environment.

  980. Tina says:

    Mccain and flakey are two pos.

  981. Jonesy says:

    Small silver linings, but looks like gop will hold va house.

    Dem shill sabato saying gop win by 30 in utah shows trump still strong in states he won

  982. Tina says:

    I regfret my 2008 vote for mccain.

  983. Trump says:

    If anyone needs a course correction, it is the GOP.

    Unless yo believe they have been on the right course for the last 10 months.

    Maybe you do believe that.

  984. Jonesy says:

    Robbie, of course you ignore the podestas. They will be indicted also

  985. Jonesy says:

    982. His twitter feed did not hurt him in 2016 robbie.

  986. Cash Cow TM says:

    VA House of Delegates tidbit…
    #################################

    House of Delegates has 100 seats.

    Take a wild guess about how many were basically uncontested elections yesterday–with only one major party putting up a candidate?

    __?__out of 100 were uncontested by the other party.
    *********************
    Scroll down for answer…

    40 SEATS!

    40 out of 100!

    WTF!
    #######################
    12 Rs had no D opposition in the GE on Tuesday.
    28 Ds had no R opposition in the GE on Tuesday.

  987. Jonesy says:

    Rumor is sessions is not calling for a special counsel, because mueller is going to indict dems for fusion

  988. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 9:55 pm
    Robbie, of course you ignore the podestas. They will be indicted also

    – My comments were about Trump and whether issues surrounding him will allow him to course correct. Whether Podesta is or isn’t indicted has no bearing on Trump’s behavior and the stress he feels from the Mueller investigation.

  989. Trump says:

    Why would Trump course correct, cretin?

    And not the GOP?

  990. Robbie says:

    Jonesy says:
    November 8, 2017 at 9:56 pm
    982. His twitter feed did not hurt him in 2016 robbie.

    – He was running against an equally unpopular candidate. He is the president now and doesn’t have her as a foil anymore. That makes a difference. Most importantly, every poll shows 60% or more of the country views Trump’s twitter feed as a negative. It causes needless distractions almost daily.

  991. Tina says:

    Sessioms did not recuse from u1

  992. Cash Cow TM says:

    “I am hearing rico type indictments”
    _______________________________
    As in Puerto Rico and Costa Rico?

    Oh wait, the central American mainlanders spell theirs Costa Rica.
    ###########################################
    Why is Puerto “RicO”, but Costa is “RicA”?
    Jason?

  993. Trump says:

    “– He was running against an equally unpopular candidate.”

    How about the primaries, moron?

  994. Tina says:

    Hopefully, they can indict the podestas and seize tonys ugly art work.

    Shoukd be aboe to sel it.

  995. Trump says:

    I thought all the primary candidates on the GOP side were universally popular.

  996. Tina says:

    I do mot understand why nunes and all smoke and no fire gowdy keep monkeying around with the fusion guy.

    Subpoena his arse and send the marahalls to arrest, if he fails to appear. It is simple gowdy, unless you want your ugly face on tv

  997. Tina says:

    And do mot negotiate with criminals, goedy, or nunez.

  998. Jonesy says:

    Sessions knows who is being indicted. He knows it is bi partisan.

  999. Tina says:

    At least the house is doing something.

    No clue regarding what burrs committee is doing, other than nothing.

  1000. Jonesy says:

    Gowdy is all bark and no bite. Worthless

  1001. Tina says:

    Well, sessions would be briefed on the indictments, despite the recusal.

    One of the indictments could be dirty cop, comedy since the fbi admitted that he leaked classified information.

  1002. Tina says:

    Gowdy is more useful that burr, what a disaster his committee is. The drat runs it.

  1003. Jonesy says:

    Nunes has been great. He started the heat on fusion and ur1.

    Lindsay graham calling for Sc tells me dems are being indicted

  1004. Tina says:

    Grassley is running a more tighter ship than burr. No clue what burr is doing. None. They should just disband it.

  1005. Tina says:

    Goober better watch himself, it coukd entrap mccain.

  1006. Jonesy says:

    Mentioned here tonight already. Gop senate know they will keep chamber in 18 . Burr could give damn except happy hour and his chair

  1007. Tina says:

    Burr has been a disappointment regarding muh russian.

  1008. Tina says:

    Despite this circumspection, the Steele dossier was shared with the FBI at some point in the summer of 2016 and apparently became the basis for the FBI to seek Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants against members of Trump’s campaign. More alarmingly, it may have formed the basis for much of the Jan. 6 intelligence “assessment” by those “hand-picked” analysts from three U.S. intelligence agencies – the CIA, the FBI and the NSA – not all 17 agencies that Hillary Clinton continues to insist were involved. (Obama’s intelligence chiefs, DNI Clapper and CIA Director John Brennan, publicly admitted that only three agencies took part and The New York Times printed a correction saying s

    Key paragraph.

  1009. Jonesy says:

    Well the theory that Rush said today about Donna Brazile taking down hillary to help the obama’s is out the window.

    She is ripping on barack, calls him a leech

  1010. Jonesy says:

    Ironic that jerrod and flynn are still registered dems

  1011. Trump says:

    I hope Trump has called McConnell and Ryan tonight to guide them through brushing their teeth.

    Thy seem incapable of doing anything without Trump.

  1012. Trump says:

    Or better still, send Pence. He is a skilled legislator and an executive.

  1013. lisab says:

    I also agree with wes that trump should work better with congress and involve pence.
    ————————————–

    that may happen

    i actually would agree that it would help trump, i am not saying that i hope that happens

    but from what i have seen on the web, a large number of trumpers think, meh … about virginia

  1014. lisab says:

    Thy seem incapable of doing anything without Trump.
    ——————————————–

    until yesterday … and maybe still today, they did not want to do anything.

    even today MOST of the senators still don’t.

    what does mccain care if trump does not get a bill passed?

  1015. Jonesy says:

    Tina, now that day after doomer day is coming to a close, i remember the friday after the trump tape came out. If we survive that, we can survive anything. Good night

  1016. Trump says:

    “what does mccain care if trump does not get a bill passed?”

    The funny thing, McCain (and Corker and Flake) is too stupid to realize that his antics only make life difficult for poor schlubs like Strange and Gillespie. And the the poor RINO in swing district, such as Phil Dent.

    Those are the ones going down at the altar of McCain’s ego.

  1017. lisab says:

    Those are the ones going down at the altar of McCain’s ego.
    —————————

    no … mccain is a smart guy … he knows

    he just doesn’t care

  1018. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump Guru is still lazy and uses the out of date 8%

  1019. lisab says:

    it is about 13% according to gallup

  1020. lisab says:

    pretty horrible story of the texas shooter’s victims … that is, it is the shooter targeted a lot of children

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMF1sV_2Hw

  1021. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Most concerning for those like me who want to see Trump course correct is the Mueller investigation. More indictments, whether next week or next month, are coming and close confidants like Flynn and possibly even Kushner and Trump Jr. could get swept up. That possibility is going to leave Trump in a near permanent state of rage.”

    Here we go again, Robbie spreading unfounded rumors in his concern troll mode. He will deny he ever did so when it does not happen.

  1022. lisab says:

    in fairness to robbie — although he does not deserve fairness

    what could mueller not ask for if he makes those indictments?

    remember he does not have to convict anybody.

    what would the dems not give him for that? or to put it another way, if someone like robbie ran the clinton foundation … how many millions would he give for that result?

  1023. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A Reuters/Ipos poll found that Trump has a 44% popularity rating with likely voters. High popularity among Republicans.

    “NEW YORK (Reuters) – President Donald Trump is more popular with likely voters than he is with the general public, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that underscores why Republican lawmakers have largely stuck with the polarizing president despite his plunging approval ratings.
    The poll, released on Wednesday, shows he polls better among people who voted in the 2016 presidential election than with the overall U.S. adult population – a group that includes both voters and non-voters. Only about 60 percent of the voting-age public took part in last year’s election.
    In October, for example, 44 percent of 2016 voters said they approved of Trump’s performance in office, compared with 37 percent of the general population. Among Republicans, 82 percent of voters approved of Trump in October, compared with 75 percent of all Republicans.
    Some 85 percent of those who voted for Trump in 2016 said they would do so again, the poll found.”

  1024. lisab says:

    Mariah Carey Accused of Sexual Harassment

  1025. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1031. Understand what you are saying lisab, but Mueller is also concerned with his reputation. He is only going to bring indictments that have a possibility of conviction.

    This will take many more months of diligent work, and probably additional millions in billable hours.

  1026. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1033. Heard a rumor that Lassie is facing accusations of sexual harassment from Felix the Cat.