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Two New Polls Have Moore Leading in AL

Democrats appear to be on the verge of blowing a golden opportunity at picking off the US Senate seat in Alabama according to new polls from Emerson College and Change Research.

US SENATE – ALABAMA (Emerson)
Roy Moore (R) 53%
Doug Jones (D) 47%

US SENATE – ALABAMA (Change Research)
Roy Moore (R) 49%
Doug Jones (D) 44%

The Change Research poll was done November 26-27 while the Emerson College poll was done November 25-27, both among likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 8:12 pm
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1,123 Responses to “Two New Polls Have Moore Leading in AL”

  1. jason says:

    Leader of the pack.

  2. jason says:

    Maybe the people of AL don’t want the WAPO (according to Paul Troll, one of the “most esteemed news organizations” in America) deciding who will be their senator.

  3. mnw says:

    When the DEM Senate refused to confirm Sessions as a federal appellate judge (because racism), the voters in Alabama responded by electing him to the Senate.

    Anyone see any obvious parallels to Moore’s situation now?

    There is an “FU, bigshot!” factor emerging, it appears.

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – I don’t think sending an alleged creepy predator of teens to the Senate is the best way to get back at the media. Of course, it is up to the voters of Alabama.

  5. Paul says:

    Go for the anti-Constitution creepy racist guy and stick it to the Wash. Post!!! That will teach them.

  6. jason says:

    That’s good for the goose is not good for the gander….why Pelosi is helping Roy Moore…

    nypost.com/2017/11/28/why-nancy-pelosi-gave-a-big-boost-to-roy-moore/

  7. Phil says:

    What difference who Republicans put up in Alabama. You people consider any Republican to be a racist. The term would mean something if you didn’t throw it around so loosely….but you just can’t help yourself can you.

  8. mnw says:

    Sessions was an alleged creepy racist… if you bought the liberal line at the time. Maybe the AL voters should’ve shunned Sessions too?

    The DEM fingerprints are all OVER the alleged creepy Moore scandal also.

    I could recite the litany again, that leads to the suspicion that this is another DEM election eve surprise, but it would serve no purpose.

    The DEM poster here right now doesn’t care what happened 40 years ago! He wants that Senate seat! For a “Claire McCaskill-style moderate.”

  9. Paul says:

    At what is wrong with that? MNW.

  10. Tina says:

    Is peoples daily pundit emerson?

  11. Tina says:

    Is conyers the sacrificial AA that the drats toss aside, because the whitey comedian aint goint anywhere.

  12. jason says:

    “go for the anti-Constitution..”

    LOL

    Paul didn’t care when Obama trampled all over the Constitution for 8 years.

    Gets the chutzpah of the day award…

    Moore is creepy and has no respect for the Constitution. Doug Jones is a flaming liberal that would vote against the interests of AL 100% of the time.

    I hope Moore wins by one vote.

  13. jason says:

    and stick it to the Wash. Post!!”

    Yes, please..stick it to the purveyor of fake news emeritus.

  14. Trump says:

    Paul coward,

    you slunk away when I asked about Clinton’s “wrongdoings”.

    Any comment on why Hillary should not be in jail?

    You know, mishandling secrets and all?

  15. Trump says:

    And while you are at it, can we have a list of Trump’s “foregoing of the law and the constituion” please?

    Or are yopu just an other dime-a-dozen moron hurting from the Trump election?

  16. jason says:

    So Paul Troll, do you think Franken should be expelled from the Senate?

    If you say yes, since he has admitted the allegations, I will agree that IF the allegations against Moore are proven or he admits to them, he should be expelled too.

    In fact, that should happen even if you don’t agree.

  17. mnw says:

    And to Allred. She’s the 600 lb liberal gorilla in this room.

    Remember, though. The ONLY thing WaPo and Allred want is justice for the victims who bravely came forward, 40 years after the fact, in the middle of the GE.

    The timing is purely coincidental.

  18. jason says:

    he DEM poster here right now doesn’t care what happened 40 years ago! He wants that Senate seat! For a “Claire McCaskill-style moderate.”
    Paul says:
    November 28, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    At what is wrong with that?”

    So Paul Troll admits what everyone knows, its all about politics.

    That is how the double standard can be defended among the moonbats, the ends justify the means.

  19. Trump says:

    Coward Paul, since you won’t, here is the complete list of Clinton crimes:

    Lying Under Oath as President – 2 times
    Lying Under Oath as Governor – 5 times
    Lying Under Oath as Attorney General
    Lying Under Oath in a Deposition
    Lying Under Oath to a Grand Jury
    Lying Under Oath as a Lawyer
    Abuse of Power
    Obstruction of Justice
    Treason
    Sedition
    Corruption
    Coercion
    Graft
    Bribe Solicitation
    Taking Bribes
    Bribery of Cabinent Members
    Bribery of State Officials
    Commercial Bribery
    Commercial Bribery Recieving
    Illegal Gift-Taking
    Falsifying Business Records
    Misapplication of Property
    Criminal Use of a Computer
    Misuse of Franking Privelege
    Recieving Dual Compensation
    Recieving Unlawful Gratuities
    Malfeasance of Office
    Perjury
    Subornation of Perjury
    Perjury by Inconsistent Statements
    Criminal Trespass
    Witness Intimidation
    Witness Tampering
    Jury Tampering
    Tampering With Physical Evidence
    Tampering With Public Records
    Ethics Violations
    Intentional Interference in the Administration of Justice
    Refusing to Assist a Judicial Officer
    Hindering Prosecution in the First Degree
    Hindering Prosecution in the Second Degree
    Unlawful Contact in the First Degree
    Misrepresentation
    Civil Contempt of Court
    Criminal Contempt of Court
    Contempt of Congress
    Contempt of the American People
    Deception
    False Information or Report
    False Accusation
    False Testimony
    Factually False Testimony
    False Swearing
    Unsworn Falsification
    Misappropriating Funds
    Misconduct
    Marital Misconduct
    Serious Misconduct
    Professional Misconduct
    Official Misconduct
    Notorious Misconduct
    Misconduct Involving a Controlled Substance
    Obstruction of the Judicial Process
    Misuse of Confidential Information
    Interference With Official Proceedings
    Recklessness
    Grand Larceny
    Extortion
    Embezzlement
    Vandalism
    Blackmail
    Cruelty to Animals
    Obstruction of Highways
    Substance Abuse
    Evidence Suppression
    Illegal Foriegn Campaign Funding
    Aiding and Abetting Espionage
    Aiding and Abetting Foriegn Dictators
    Aiding and Abetting Arsonists
    Aiding and Abetting a Known Felon
    Aiding and Abetting Terrorists and Terrorist Organizations
    Terroristic Threatening
    Providing Material Support to Terrorists
    Engaging in Transactions with Terrorists
    Improper Exports of Sensitve Technology
    Attempted Intimidation of Prosecutors
    Failure to Declare Income
    Failure to Investigate Drug Trafficking
    Scheme to Defraud
    Real Estate Fraud
    Voter Fraud
    Mail Fraud
    Wire Fraud
    Interstate Transportation to Defraud
    Destruction of Business Records with Intent to Defraud
    Criminalizing Frauds on Financial Institutions
    Use of State Police for Personal Purposes
    Illegal Loan Extraction
    False Reports by Medical Examiners and Others Investigating Suspicious Deaths
    Improper Futures Trading
    Illegal Use of the Executive Branch
    Character Defamation
    Destruction of Evidence
    Political Espionage
    Money Laundering
    Criminal Negligence
    Possesion of False Papers
    False Acknowledgment
    False Declaration Before a Court
    Wrongful Handling of Public Documents
    Concealing or Covering Up of Material Fact
    Misprison of Felony
    Criminal Deception
    Disclosure of Confidential Information
    Failure to Account for Public Money
    Recieving or Concealing Stolen Goverment Property
    Failure to Deposit Federal Monies
    Wrongful Solicitation of Embezzlement or Gifts
    Use of a Public Building to Solicit Political Funds
    Accepting Fee for Federal Employment
    Offering to Procure an Appointive Public Office
    Taking Illegal Kickbacks
    Racketeering
    Investing Racketeering Income
    RICO Conspiracy
    Conspiracy
    Conspiracy to Conceal
    Conspiracy to Murder
    Conspiracy to Engage in Racketeering
    Conspiracy to Defraud the Federal Government
    Wrongful Destruction of War Records
    Malicious Injury to Property
    Acquiring an Enterprise Through Racketeering
    Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property
    Offering Gratuities or Graft to a Public Official
    Soliciting or Accepting Illegal Gratuities
    Offering Gratuities to a Witness
    Seeking or Accepting Illegal Compensation
    Influencing or Injuring Officers, Jurors or Witnesses
    Obstructing Agency Proceedings
    Obstructing Criminal Investigations
    Threatening Victims, Witnesses or Informants
    Harassing Victims, Witnesses or Informants
    Retaliating Against Victims, Witnesses or Informants
    Falsely Making or Forging a Public Record
    Falsely Making or Forging a Document
    Uttering or Publishing a False Public Record
    Transmitting a False Record to the United States
    Misuse of Government Files
    Desecration of Federal Ethics Laws
    Judicial Intimidation
    Conflict of Interests
    Illegal Campaign Activity
    Misuse of Corporate Assets
    Ordering Politically Motivated Audits
    Ordering Politically Motivated Investigations
    Timing of War Influenced by Political Considerations
    Foreign Influence Peddling
    Regular Influence Peddling
    Providing False and Misleading Testimony
    Misapplying Funds
    Criminal Violation of the Privacy Act
    Evisceration of the Right to Habeas Corpus
    Misuse of Taxpayer Funds
    Interfering with a Court Order
    Theft of Government Property
    Abuse of Taxpayer Financed Travel
    Anti-American Espionage
    Jeopardizing National Security
    Aiding and Abetting Drug Traffic
    Aiding and Abetting Organized Crime
    Aiding and Abetting Terrorism
    Murder by Accessory by Witness Tampering
    Murder by Accessory by Forgery
    Solicitation to commit murder by accessory
    Accessory to Multiple Deaths
    Accessory to Murder in the Second Degree
    Accessory to Aggravated Murder
    Accessory to Felony Murder
    Accessory to Criminal Libel
    Accessory to Unlawful Flight to Avoid Prosecution
    Accessory to Arson
    Accessory to Criminal Negligent Burning
    Accessories After the Fact
    Accessory to Abduction
    Accessory to Causing Mental Harm to a Child
    Custodial Interference in the First Degree
    Child Endangerment
    Cruelty to Persons
    Sexual Harassment
    Indecent Exposure in the Second Degree
    Indecent Assault
    Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
    Malicious Wounding
    False Imprisonment
    Sexual Abuse of Employees
    Lewd and Lascivious Conduct
    Exchange of Promotions or Benefits for Sexual Favors
    First Degree Sexual Assault
    Second Degree Sexual Assault
    Third Degree Sexual Assault
    Fourth Degree Sexual Assault
    Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
    Statutory Rape
    Sexual Battery
    Intent to Rape
    Suspicion of Rape
    Rape
    Forcible Rape
    Oral Copulation
    Misdemeanor Sexual Assault
    Sexual Misconduct in the First Degree
    Criminal Sexual Conduct by Force and Coercion
    Unlawful Sexual Contact
    Unlawful Sexual Activity with a Minor
    Consensual Digital Penetration
    Lewd Proposal
    Sexual Battery
    Penetration by a Foriegn Object
    Failure to Register as a Sexual Offender
    Deriliction of Duty
    Corrupting Public Discourse
    Contributing to the Delinquincy of a Minor
    Unfit to hold a law license
    Conduct Unbecoming a President
    Impersonating a Public Servant
    Squandering the Public Trust

  20. jason says:

    Where is page 2?

  21. Trump says:

    And that’s just off the top of my head.

  22. Trump says:

    Paul, we could drop half the charges, and the Clintons would still be eligible for firing squad.

    And that includes the half-wit Chelsea.

  23. Tina says:

    Allred was a Clintune super delegate.

  24. Paul says:

    I like your list, Trumpee. It turns me on a little.

  25. Trump says:

    Pedophiles are like that, Paul.

  26. lisab says:

    Maybe the people of AL don’t want the WAPO (according to Paul Troll, one of the “most esteemed news organizations” in America) deciding who will be their senator.
    ———————————————-

    it would be a bad precedent for democracy in this country if a candidate’s character is judged by the seriousness of the allegations rather than the quality of the evidence

    could moore be guilty of at least some of the allegations? sure … i do nt believe the 14 yo’s story or the yearbook, but certainly some of the others ring true — which is not the same as saying that moore was the actual man involved in the stories, just that the stories are certainly plausible.

    however, there is just no credible evidence yet. there are no contemporaneous police reports or complaints, no pictures, no letters etc.

    to allow 40 year old accusations bring down candidates would mean whoever lied the best and loudest would determine the winners.

  27. Trump says:

    The quality of the evidence is, he looked funny. 40 years ago.

    If looking creepy was a disqualification, how do you account for Schumer and Pelosi?

  28. lisab says:

    and to bitterlaw’s story of the predator priest …

    obviously he could be lying or he could be telling the truth

    but regardless of the veracity of the allegation, it does not in any way affect the priest’s future candidacy for a bishop’s seat. i believe he said the priest was dead anyway. therefore there is no consequence for us believing or not believing the story, thus no evidence is needed.

    to negate a democratic choice made by free citizens’ of the usa should require evidence.

  29. lisab says:

    The quality of the evidence is, he looked funny. 40 years ago.
    ————————————

    can anyone at hhr remember the people they saw at the mall 5 days ago never mind 40 years ago?

    i was in a mall on black friday … i could not accurately describe to the police one person besides my spouse who was also there.

  30. lisab says:

    I don’t think sending an alleged creepy predator of teens to the Senate is the best way to get back at the media.
    —————————

    says the lawyer who makes a living proving that people lie to insurance companies

  31. Trump says:

    are the police looking for your hubby?

  32. lisab says:

    Paul didn’t care when Obama trampled all over the Constitution for 8 years.
    ——————————–

    the interpretation of the constitution has changed dramtically over the years.

    moore’s interpretation of the supremacy of the state’s rights would have been mainstream thinking in 1920

    obama’s forcing people to by insurance would have horrified people even 20 years ago

    what is considered unconstitutional changes

    most people probably have no idea that the things like the bill of rights did not apply to the states or the residents of those states unless they were somehow under federal jurisdiction

  33. lisab says:

    are the police looking for your hubby?
    ——————————————-

    nah … he is a goody-goody

    which is why i drive in massachusetts … he’s never survive

  34. lisab says:

    #20 Marital Misconduct
    —————————-

    i don’t think that is a crime …

    or i might get the chair …

    massachusetts doesn’t actually have the death penalty right now … but they might bring it back just for me on that one

  35. Trump says:

    that is why I said, we could drop half the charges, the clintons would still fry.

    I am reasonable that way.

  36. lisab says:

    Any comment on why Hillary should not be in jail?
    You know, mishandling secrets and all?
    —————————————-

    again, from a democracy standpoint, it is unwise to put politicians in prison … even if deserved … except for quite obvious and egregious crimes

    it is too easy for that to be misused to eliminate the political opposition

    is there any doubt whatsoever that some dems would throw trump in prison if they could?

  37. Cash Cow TM says:

    live to evil to vile

    slow to owls to lows

    Tinker to Evers to Chance

  38. lisab says:

    imagine it is 2020

    trump is again the gop nominee

    someone notHillary is the dem nominee

    and hillary is expected to give a speech at the dem convention …

    that won’t be pretty

  39. Cash Cow TM says:

    What is President Trump’s best quality?

    His ability to calm an explosive situation?

    His ability to instill hope and confidence?

    His ability to speak eloquently?

    His ability to unite a divided people?

    Or…..?

  40. lisab says:

    his ability to tell sjws to fo

  41. jason says:

    to allow 40 year old accusations bring down candidates would mean whoever lied the best and loudest would determine the winners.”

    Exactly the point I tried to make with Wobbie, that this would be a horrible precedent that would make every elected official in the country vulnerable.

    But of course as an MSM toady, he is too stupid to look at the bigger picture.

  42. lisab says:

    now i would say there are a number of things that you can like and not like about trump

    in fact the country is quite divided over whether it is a good thing for the president to tell people he doesn’t like to fo or a bad thing for the president to tell people he doesn’t like to fo

    for example, it may not be the most diplomatic thing to call the leader of north korea short and fat in public

    but it is the most satisfying thing

  43. jason says:

    moore’s interpretation of the supremacy of the state’s rights would have been mainstream thinking in 1920″

    Maybe, but in that case the ruling would have been different. In other words, perhaps the federal court would not have ruled against him.

    But even in 1920, Moore would have had to obey the law.

  44. lisab says:

    But even in 1920, Moore would have had to obey the law.
    ———————-
    eventually … brown v board of education was decided in 1954

    schools in parts of the south were not integrated until after 1970

  45. lisab says:

    “CNN will not be attending this year’s White House Christmas party,” a CNN statement read.

    Sanders retweeted an article with the announcement with the caption, “Christmas comes early! Finally, good news from @CNN.”

  46. lisab says:

    i did not vote for trump

    but as much as i appreciate him pissing off sjws

    i am NOT at all looking forward to how smug they will be if/when trump loses in 2020

  47. lisab says:

    chicago bakery loses 800 employees due to being undocumented ….

    but illegal immigration is not a problem

  48. lisab says:

    “A jeep Cherokee is more native American than Elizabeth warren.” ~NazaBear Kurøtzuchî (a real Indian)

  49. Tina says:

    We need to put out an APB for the Jebots.

  50. jason says:

    CNN is doing exactly what they are critical of Trump about.

    They have a personal vendetta against him.

    The problem for them is that Trump will be gone in 4 or 8 years, while they are boxing themselves permanently as purveyors of left wing fake news, and there is a lot of competition for the audience looking for that.

  51. jason says:

    Wobbie is “busy” because there have been no major leaks from the Mueller investigation he can be gleeful about.

    He will be back at any whiff of an opportunity to overturn the results of the election.

  52. jason says:

    If Moore wins, watch the MSM meltdown and the insults to the AL voters. It will be epic.

  53. lisab says:

    If Moore loses, watch the MSM smugfest and the insults to the AL voters. It will be epic.

  54. jason says:

    Heh…..

    “FilmLadd @FilmLadd

    Pretty sure CNN attended Obama’s WH Christmas parties while his DOJ was bugging & wiretapping & jailing journalists left and right.

    Bet they even sat under the mistletoe like quivering brides”

  55. BRENT says:

    ROY MOORE WILL WIN BY DOUBLE DIGITS IMO

  56. Redmen4ever says:

    Nancy Pelosi is not being a hypocrite. She favors redistribution of the sexual wealth, just like she favors redistribution of the financial wealth. She merely tolerates consensual transfers of sex and/or money in the marketplace until true socialism can be obtained. Why should your body be considered any more “yours,” than your money? From each according to his [or her] ability, to each according to his [or her] needs. Representative Conyers, Senator Mendendez and President Clinton have needs, and they’re with the redistributionist agenda, so their needs matter. Roy Moore’s needs, like white trash lives in general, don’t matter. Aslo, Asian shopkeepers in Philadphia. Their needs also don’t matter. Moore has to respect women’s consent because he’s resisting redistributionism. This is why suicide is a problem, according to Pelosi: Unauthorized destruction of government property.

  57. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bitter
    You took a lot of grief during the last campaign saying you were voting for The Donald primarily for two(2) reasons. To wit: 1- Mrs. Clinton was a clear and present danger and 2- the selection of conservative federal Judges.
    Yesterday in the CPFB decision, a newly-minted Trump nominated Judge lowered the kaboom on Warren, Pelosi etal. You have been vindicated and your vindication will continue for years to come.

  58. MichiganGuy says:

    #59 Sheeple and here is our latest confirmed judge.

    Senate confirms Greg Katsas to DC Circuit Court of Appeals

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senate-confirms-greg-katsas-to-dc-circuit-court-of-appeals/article/2641931

  59. MichiganGuy says:

    Trump’s confirmed Judges:

    Supreme Court

    Neil Gorsuch

    Court of Appeals

    1 Amul Thapar
    2 John K. Bush
    3 Kevin Newsom
    4 Ralph R. Erickson
    5 Amy Coney Barrett
    6 Joan Larsen
    7 Allison H. Eid
    8 Stephanos Bibas
    9 Gregory G. Katsas

    District Courts

    1 David Nye
    2 Timothy J. Kelly
    3 Scott L. Palk
    4 Trevor N. McFadden
    5 Donald C. Coggins Jr.
    6 Dabney L. Friedrich

    Making America Great Again

  60. Tina says:

    Matt Lauer fired.

  61. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Great, and we should boycott Fake News CNN. Dealing with them is a total waste of time!
    Sarah Sanders
    @PressSec
    Christmas comes early! Finally, good news from @CNN. (link: https://twitter.com/politico/status/935655579296681989) twitter.com/politico/statu…

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – If the President did not have the power to appoint Federal judges, I might not have voted for President in 2016. I still find Trump to be a reprensible person with few, if any, good qualities. However, these judges are better than who Hillary would appoint. I will give him credit for that.

  63. MichiganGuy says:

    BL, why are you such a hypocrite? You love to point out the flaws of Trump and Moore but, forget about how many flaws your hero Chris Christie has.

  64. Tina says:

    Judges

    REgulation cuts

    Federal downsizing.

    All good thungs vs Her Thighness

  65. Todd McCain says:

    Moore is leading at this juncture; anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know their *ss from a whole in the ground.

  66. mnw says:

    Todd

    U said it! They stink on ice.

  67. Todd McCain says:

    *hole

  68. Todd McCain says:

    I hope the DEMS spend millions more in Alabama.

  69. Todd McCain says:

    At this point, unless something else drops about Moore, he might be headed for a blowout honestly.

  70. DW says:

    Wow, Lauer added to the list…who else today?

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Luis Gutierrez (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist

  71. DW says:

    I asked for it yesterday and I got it…the first poll that has shown actual movement back to Moore after the allegations, and JMC is it.

  72. Tom says:

    73. – DW you need to ad Al Gore to the list. I understand he likes to take message therapy a little too far.

  73. Paul says:

    And I assume you are hoping for Moore’s defeat, DW? As a good and upright person would.

  74. Paul says:

    A lot of folk in Gadsden are not voting for Moore….

  75. messy says:

    20. except for the first one on the list, he’s innocent of all of it.

  76. messy says:

    73. I noticed that you refused to list Donald Trump…and half the GOP in Congress…..

  77. Phil says:

    Well, Paul, I guess the thought of Watching Jones vote in lock step with Schumer, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Al Franken (you remember him, right?) and all the other left wing senate loons for the next three years was just a little bit of a bridge to far.

  78. DW says:

    79 – my list is the current eruption of accusations starting with Weinstein. I have added any and all Republicans since then.

    76 – I don’t live in Alabama, so I don’t have a vote. I personally do not like Moore. I also do not like liberal democrats in the senate. Alabama voters will decide.

  79. MichiganGuy says:

    Trump calls out Joe Scarborough says he should be investigated for the intern found dead in his Congressional Office years ago.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935870484146683904

  80. Paul says:

    Michigan Guy,
    You are proving the deplorableness of your president. Link doesn’t work. Is that his old tweet or did he sink to a new low this morning?

  81. mnw says:

    DW

    The Change poll yesterday also showed movement toward Moore, & it was all post-WaPo hit as well. The Change poll was posted here.

  82. mnw says:

    I notice that the posters who constantly talked about how the GOP had “thrown the AL seat away” have finally STFU, thank God.

  83. DW says:

    84 – I was talking about only those polls included in the RCP average.

  84. NYCmike says:

    Actual voting still has to take place….preople still have to go into a booth and pull the lever for Moore…..plenty of time left for him to do something to screw it up.

  85. DW says:

    Sounds like if the AL Governor was going to move the date of election to help Moore chances, it should get moved to tomorrow.

  86. Chicon says:

    Hello Mike. Moore certainly has it in him to say or do something stupid. But if he doesn’t, all these other cases where the politician survived may have diluted the effect of the allegations against Moore.

  87. MichiganGuy says:

    Paul, the last 2 tweets from Trump are about morning Joe. If the link doesn’t work just go on twitter to Trump’s account.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935874566701842434

  88. MichiganGuy says:

    #85 mnw, which one there was a few. Wes, BL, Robbie…

  89. Paul says:

    Our president is fully in the gutter this morning.

  90. MichiganGuy says:

    Never mind, I missed the s poster(s) I can’t forget Waingro; who told us Moore was about to drop out of the race. LOL

  91. mnw says:

    MG

    I actually wasn’t thinking of any of them. I was thinking of the Kindergarden (sic) Kid, my nickname for him, because he’s an illiterate who calls everybody ELSE here a “moron” usually.

    I won’t even type his sock puppet screen name. He posts rather like CCCP Cory, the Canadian communist, but I don’t know if they are one & the same.

  92. Todd McCain says:

    Where is Robbie? He only comes around when there is bad news for the GOP.

    Yesterday was a great day:

    1. Moore regains lead
    2. Consumer Board fully in hands of DJT
    3. GDP revised up
    4. Tax Reform through Budget Committee

  93. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – Christie has only been married once. There are no stories of him running around or being a perv. He still has not been charged with anything related to the bridge. The people convicted did not turn on him.

    What are the flaws that you consider to be equivalent to those of Trump?

  94. Cash Cow TM says:

    Of the list posted here and updated regularly of people beign caught up in inappropriate sexual behavior…

    Two observations:

    1. I just hoofed through a long newspaper story on one of those two D Illinois Congresscritters saying he will not run again…served 13 terms, toyed with running for mayor of Chicago, blah, blah, blah…

    No mention of any misappropriate sexual allegations.

    2. with the rise of donated sperm for artificial insemination so women don’t need men and the rise of life like s/e/x/ dolls so men don’t need women…well, it looks like things are headed in a a sad and lonely direction.

  95. Bitterlaw says:

    Moore could still blow it. I want him to defeat the Democrat and then not seated. Even ignoring the allegations of creepiness, his demonstrated contempt for the law should disqualify him from serving in the Senate.

    If a Democrat who had twice been suspended as a judge was elected to the Senate, HHR would be howling for that person to not be seated.

  96. DW says:

    98 – it started years ago on dairy farms with farmers trying to keep their cows safe from bulls by switching to artificial means.

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    Cash Cow – It may turn out that Walt is the man left on Earth. He’s done it before. I guess he will be ok.

    C

  98. Cash Cow TM says:

    I heard a large cash prize is being offered for the first man to step forward with charges of inappropriate sexual conduct engaged in by a woman.

    Do any of the HHR women here have to worry about skeletons in the past of inappropriate grabbing of a man, unwanted enticements of men to get them in the sack (or grabbing them by the sack), the on on purpose (“accidental”) rubbing of parts of their bodies on some man to get their attention, etc.?

  99. DW says:

    98 – also, it sounded suspicious that those two IL critters bowed out…like they knew they were guilty and wanted to get out of limelight as soon as possible. Don’t you know Matt Lauer wishes he had resigned a month ago to pursue other interests rather than get fired today?

    Even so, I will remove them from the list.

  100. Paul says:

    A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.

  101. Todd McCain says:

    Bitter,

    Yes, he could still blow it. No doubt.

    I think the MSM has changed their focus thought to try to scuttle tax reform.

  102. MichiganGuy says:

    “Christie’s net favorability peaked in January 2013, when 51% of Americans had a favorable opinion, and just 23% had an unfavorable opinion.

    Those numbers have flipped upside-down, with polling last month showing 27% favorable and 55% unfavorable”
    http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-christie-problems-2015-7

    BL,doesn’t understand why only 16% of people in New Jersey can stand the arrogant jerk. LOL That picture on the beach says it all.

  103. Cash Cow TM says:

    “it started years ago on dairy farms with farmers trying to keep their cows safe from bulls by switching to artificial means”
    ##########################################
    True that.

    It used to be so romantic in the olden days when the farmer would provide dim lighting and mood music and then put the bulls and cows together for a fun evening.

  104. mnw says:

    BL

    Once someone holds the people’s mandate, the courts have traditionally taken a very jaundiced view of subsequent efforts to exclude that person from the office to which he/she was elected.

    Recall the case of the NY socialist legislators, back in the Justice Holmes era? It was required reading in Con Law for a long time.

  105. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist

  106. mnw says:

    I believe that the fake news branch of the DNC is saving their best for last to knock out Moore. An October Surprise in December— think Rathergate & W’s DUI.

    They will give this one more good shot. Col. Busby, the “independent” who attends Jones’ fundraisers, will not be the final chapter in the DEM effort. They’re pouring Ossoff-like amounts of money into the AL race already.

    There is nothing so putrid that the fake news folks won’t try.

  107. DW says:

    McAuliffe faces $17M fraud suit from green-car investors…

    link at Drudge

  108. Phil says:

    No doubt the media is hong back one more accusation. Thing is, if it comes out CONVENIENTLY just before the election it will come off as just a little TOO convenient.

  109. Bitterlaw says:

    I noticed MG could not find a single flaw of Christie as a person. He could not refute that Trump is a dirtbag and failed to list alleged personal flaws of Christie. He could only find approval ratings related to work in office. Of course, he ignored other factors that hurt Christie in New Jersey. Being a Republican hurts. Being an early supporter of Trump in a state that despises Trump also hurt.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    If Christie ran against Trump in 2020, I would violate my rule to never vote for a primary challenger over an incumbent. I might have to go to Philadelphia to vote for Christie in the 8th, 57th and 60th wards, too.

  111. DW says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot update.

    Economist/You Gov updated, and moved from Dem +9 to Dem +6

    Robbie hardest hit.

  112. Cash Cow TM says:

    BREAKING…

    WV news…

    Don Blankenship–former big coal magnate who has more money than brains, and is one of the most vilified and despised people in WV due to the explosion and deaths at the Upper Big Branch Coal Mine that he ran–and who recently has completed his one year federal prison jail sentence…

    …HAS ANNOUNCED HE IS RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATE IN WV (current and expected candidates are WV U.S. Rep. Evan Jenkins and WV AG Patrick Morissey…

    If he gets 5% of the vote, I will be shocked.

    More money than brains…

  113. Cash Cow TM says:

    Running in the R primary…

  114. Paul says:

    I’m hopeful to see Lyin’ Cruz defeated in 2018. Go Beto O’rourke! A kid can dream….

  115. JC says:

    Paul says:
    November 29, 2017 at 11:05 am

    I’m hopeful to see Lyin’ Cruz defeated in 2018. Go Beto O’rourke! A kid can dream….
    —————

    It’s Lyin’ Ted. If you’re going to insult the man at least do it correctly…

  116. JC says:

    I think Dems have as much a chance of defeating Cruz in TX as the GOP has in defeating Warren in MA.

    Pipe dream.

  117. Todd McCain says:

    Economist poll also showed DJT approval up to 43.

  118. Phil says:

    Yeah, Cruz will only win by twenty points.

    Yes, dreamers can dream. The left was dreaming of Governor Wendy Davis as I recall. Lefties live in their own little bubble.

  119. DW says:

    what’s all this about Ted Cruz lying? He is a politician isn’t he? I am not excusing lying, but isn’t it true that once you embrace any of the following professions you embrace lying?

    Politician
    Used Car Salesman
    Real Estate Broker
    Software Sales
    Journalist

  120. mnw says:

    With the new JMC poll included, Moore leads by 2 in the RCP avg, per RRH.

  121. Phil says:

    Looks like Moore may hang on by 4 to 6 points in the end.

  122. jason says:

    I would love to see Cruz defeated by non-deadender Republican.

    But yeah, he is better than any Dem.

  123. jason says:

    I have never been so wrong about a politician than I was about Christie.

  124. Wobbles says:

    Economist poll also showed DJT approval up to 43.”

    Busy flying schedule today…

  125. ssq says:

    McAuliffe faces $17M fraud suit from green-car investors”

    What about the other colors?

  126. mnw says:

    ssq

    Funny.

    MeAgain has the sads because Lauer.

    Whoever replaces Lauer or Franken or Conyers or Grijalva or Rose will be 1) younger & 2) an even more obnoxious leftist from hell.

  127. JC says:

    DW says:
    November 29, 2017 at 11:32 am

    what’s all this about Ted Cruz lying? He is a politician isn’t he? I am not excusing lying, but isn’t it true that once you embrace any of the following professions you embrace lying?
    ————-

    I like Ted Cruz and voted for him for both senator and president during the 2016 primary.

    However, I think he is best suited to remain in a the senate.

  128. DW says:

    133 – I agree. I think he does a great job when he is in a lion’s den battling the lions.

  129. BayernFan says:

    Trump should appoint him to the Supreme Court

  130. JC says:

    Trump’s branding of Cruz as “Lyin’ Ted” was a devastating blow to Cruz during the primary. (Or as Scott Adams would say, it was a ‘linguistic killshot’)

    You gotta admit, he does have the appearance of a smarmy lawyer, with those beady Canadian eyes…

  131. JC says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 29, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Trump should appoint him to the Supreme Court
    ——————-

    Agree. He would be excellent there.

    Imagine the salty tears from the left if Trump replace Ruth Ginsburg with Cruz.

  132. DW says:

    Add too more to the growing list:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor.

  133. DW says:

    *two more

  134. DW says:

    I guess I should also have Bill O’Reilly on the list too:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor.

  135. jason says:

    Cruz is a grandstanding deadender who always thinks of himself first, country and party later. He also oozes hypocrisy in just about everything he says and does, would you buy a used car from him?

    I would love to see him gone from the Senate.

    I would not oppose him for SCOTUS, however, its a perfect place for prima donnas like him, and he would probably be very entertaining from the bench skewering lawyers with opposing views.

  136. jason says:

    Thanks for taking Barton off, he didn’t deserve to be on the list.

  137. JC says:

    Jason just hates everybody…

  138. ssq says:

    ssq

    Funny.”

    We parodies are funny.

  139. JC says:

    @DW

    How did Anthony Wiener not make your list!?

  140. jason says:

    “Jason just hates everybody…”

    Not true.

    GFY.

  141. DW says:

    just adding a few more that I missed:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News

  142. jason says:

    The left was dreaming of Governor Wendy Davis as I recall.”

    Remember Chekote?

    She predicted Bill White would beat Rick Perry because of the “Dallas and Houston” suburb vote.

    I hear his estate is still looking for her for getting him to pour tens of millions down the rathole based on her assessment.

  143. DW says:

    145 – it is a list of names where there were recent accusations of abusive misconduct, mostly of a sexual nature. The list is not intended to be comprehensive for all history.

  144. jason says:

    Based on the latest polls I am upping Moore’s chances to 60/40.

  145. jason says:

    Ok so now we know why Walt(R) is not on it, although for geologists 10 million years could be recent history.

  146. DW says:

    Ironic that the accused/guilty journalists all have to lose their positions, all the while journalists give Al Franken gets to stay put in the senate.

  147. Chicon says:

    DW – how about Roger Ailes? I think he was the first raindrop in this storm.

  148. mnw says:

    The fake news crew sure are frisky!

    I don’t want to beat my interest in the AL race to death, but it IS really consequential. Really, really, considering how closely divided the Senate is.

    Breitbart (I know, Breitbart… yawn & move on) actually does honest-to-God old-fashioned investigative journalism. The Moore accusers’ stories are just NOT holding up well under scrutiny. The general public will never KNOW that, of course, because the case is closed now for the fake news media.

    Btw, the National Enquirer does genuine investigative journalism also.

  149. DW says:

    Roger Ailes was a while ago, sort of a long gap between him and Harvey…but I will add him:

    Roger Ailes (R) – Fox News executive
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News

  150. jason says:

    There’s also Billy Bush, but I don’t see what he is guilty of besides locker room talk with Trump.

  151. jason says:

    JC says:
    November 29, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    Jason just hates everybody…”

    I should retire…you get to the point where there just aren’t any more accolades worth striving for…

  152. Todd McCain says:

    Billy Bush getting fired was ridiculous.

  153. NYCmike says:

    DW,

    May I add some marks to your list? (see below)

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”

  154. Paul says:

    Why isn’t Trump on your list?

  155. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Jerusalem Post DC correspondent predicts that by Sunday The Donald will recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol. If true, I will shed many tears of joy and be eternally grateful to our President!!! (I’m certain that Bunu will feel the same way!) MAKE IT HAPPEN!

    https://twitter.com/Gil_Hoffman/status/935933910864875522

  156. jason says:

    For what, for saying something offensive?

    Or for inviting a bimbo for a ride on his plane?

    Oh yeah, for entering a dressing room at a pageant?

  157. jason says:

    I think Mo Brooks is a moron but you can’t accuse him of being an opportunist.

  158. Paul says:

    Trump is the biggest moron ever. And Jason is as well for supporting such a despicable anti-American individual.

  159. Paul says:

    Prime Minister had rebuke Trump over his idiotic moronic actions today.

  160. Phil says:

    Guess Trump will lose the British vote.

    Zzzzzzzzz

  161. Paul says:

    Conyers will resign within 24 hours.

  162. Paul says:

    ZZZZZZ
    FU, Phil

  163. Trump says:

    Paul coward, any comment on Hillary’s crimes?

  164. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason just hates everybody

    I work hard everyday to hate everybody. It just comes naturally to jason.

  165. jason says:

    anti-American individual.”

    I don’t like Trump, but he is as about pro-America as you can get.

    You had a President for 8 years that spent the whole time apologizing for America, I call THAT ant-American.

    If you want to find America haters, look at the Democratic party.

  166. jason says:

    I work hard everyday to hate everybody. It just comes naturally to jason.”

    zzzzzz… GFY.

    Another attempt to minimize my accomplishments, won’t work.

    Naturally my ass, I EARNED it.

  167. mnw says:

    I’ve hated everybody LONGER than either of you. Hate… it’s what’s for dinner.

  168. jason says:

    Trump is the biggest moron ever.”

    Awwwww, did he kick the crap of your most corrupt and crooked candidate ever?

  169. jason says:

    mnw just got on the bus and immediately wants a seat at the window?

  170. jason says:

    Yellen “very concerned” about deficit spending.

    It’s a surreal world….

  171. mnw says:

    jason

    AND I’m older than Walt, too.

    I think I might’ve dated Walt’s mom.

  172. Redmen4ever says:

    U.S. deficit as a percent of GDP:

    http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/economics/government-deficit_gov-dfct-table-en

    We’ve not done a good job of balancing the budget. But, why the sudden concern?

  173. DW says:

    159 – Sure…I really never intended it to be ‘my list’ but a community effort here. If anyone learns of a new name, add it to the bottom of the list and re-post it.

  174. DW says:

    179 – same goes for the sudden surge in homelessness.

  175. DW says:

    Busy day, another new one:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer

  176. Tgca says:

    148 Jason

    Yes!!! I remember Chekote. It’s been like 10 years. She gave me the cute lil nickname TgcaGnat. I miss her so. *sigh*

  177. DW says:

    Also news today, with the accusations against Garrison Keillor, The Writer’s Almanac is now canceled. This was a daily 5 minute radio piece heard on many public radio stations where Keillor would talk about the birthday of some famous writer, read a poem, and then sign off with “Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.”

    But as it turns out, Keillor wasn’t well, he did bad work, and he touched more than he should have.

  178. DW says:

    MD used to talk about how he lost some of his life in his effort to purge HHR of Chekote.

  179. Bitterlaw says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/formmb?lang=en

    MD is ranting about the tax bill screwing over the middle class to enrich companies. He may be right but he used to like companies.

  180. DW says:

    Given the length of the list, it would be good also to provide a summary, based on occupation:

    Entertainment industry: 8
    News industry: 8
    Politicians: 9
    Other: 2

    Pretty even spread.

  181. JC says:

    http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/matt-lauer-accused-sexual-harassment-multiple-women-1202625959/

    As the co-host of NBC’s “Today,” Matt Lauer once gave a colleague a sex toy as a present. It included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her, which left her mortified.

    On another day, he summoned a different female employee to his office, and then dropped his pants, showing her his penis. After the employee declined to do anything, visibly shaken, he reprimanded her for not engaging in a sexual act.

    He would sometimes quiz female producers about who they’d slept with, offering to trade names…

  182. jason says:

    So one of MD’s followers is HillaryIsMyPOTUS?

    LOL

  183. jason says:

    95% are Democrats.

    I am sure its a coincidence.

  184. jason says:

    I think I might’ve dated Walt’s mom?

    Was her name Eve?

  185. Waingro says:

    Great sign.

    Phil Kerpen?Verified account @kerpen
    2m2 minutes ago

    Motion to Proceed to HR1 passes and the Senate is now debating tax reform. Vote was 52-48 with every Republican and zero Democrats voting to open debate.

  186. DW says:

    188 – yet Lauer had to leave his position, while the same media gives Al Franken a pass even though Franken grabbed a woman by the back of her head and then slammed his tongue into her mouth.

  187. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The sex scandal, which was pushed by the Democrats to stop the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama, has ricocheted against them, and now Franken, Conyers & Grijalva are under siege.

    The Clinton escapades and even Chappaquiddick are again being discussed. One wonders what would have happened if Chappaquiddick had happened now; my hunch is a former Massachusetts senator would have done serious jail time.

  188. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Unsubstantiated rumor(its the best kind) has it that a sex scandal has hit the troll world, and may explain the absence of one of the board’s most persistent trolls.

  189. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I would prefer to swim in a pool with tiger sharks than face the backlash that Gerald Rivera is going to get for the following tweet”

    “Sad about @MLauer great guy, highly skilled & empathetic w guests & a real gentleman to my family & me. News is a flirty business & it seems like current epidemic of #SexHarassmentAllegations may be criminalizing courtship & conflating it w predation.”

  190. Cash Cow TM says:

    On DW’s list I would like to start a pool on what date allegations of sexual impropriety will be made against the first TV female weather person.

    I bet the date will be…never.

  191. JC says:

    Cash Cow TM says:
    November 29, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    On DW’s list I would like to start a pool on what date allegations of sexual impropriety will be made against the first TV female weather person.

    I bet the date will be…never.
    ————–

    That’s because for +95% of guys any initiated sexual behavior from the opposite sex is generally welcome.

  192. lisab says:

    Trump is the biggest moron ever.
    ———————————-

    you say that, but he is still far more successful than you

  193. lisab says:

    That’s because for +95% of guys any initiated sexual behavior from the opposite sex is generally welcome.
    ————————————

    and women would not do something like assaulting a person for sex

  194. JC says:

    DW, add another one to the list.

    Senior CNN producer of ‘State of the Union’ has been fired for sexual harassment: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/cnn-producer-fired-over-claims-inappropriate-behavior.html

  195. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Three women who have accused former President Bill Clinton of past sexual misconduct were among a group of people that barged into Minnesota Democratic Sen. Al Franken’s office on Wednesday to demand he resign from Congress amid sexual harassment accusations.”

    Where was Gloria Allred? Was her flight delayed?

  196. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt said if any of the weather girls he has seen on TV would make sexual advances on him, he would rip out his tongue before he would tell authorities.

    Cow told him if any TV weather girl came on to him the shock would probably bring on a heart attack.

  197. Cash Cow TM says:

    I dispute lisab’s “95%” number.

    I say it is closer to 99.9999999999%.

  198. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    200. “That’s because for +95% of guys any initiated sexual behavior from the opposite sex is generally welcome.
    ————————————
    and women would not do something like assaulting a person for sex.”
    ______

    There are a lot of cases of middle aged women teachers having sex with 16/17 aged male students.

    This seems to prove your first point, but brings into the question the second. Although the male was willing, they were were minors legally incapable of consent, so it could be classified as an assault.

  199. Cash Cow TM says:

    203,086
    NOVEMBER 28, 2017
    Gun background check requests made on Black Friday, which is the most ever made in a single day. The number of guns purchased, however, could be higher since one request could be for multiple weapons.

    Source: Business Insider

  200. Cash Cow TM says:

    $12M–Wheel of Fortune’s Pat Sajak’s annual salary

    $10M–Jeopardy’s Alex (“Mr Know It All”) Trebek’s annual salary

    $8M–Wheel of fortune Vanna White’s annual salary
    ###############################################
    Pat Sajak and Vanna White are worth every penny.

    But Alex Trebek is way over paid.

    I would do just as good of a job as Trebek for $5M and a big pile of hay.

  201. Cash Cow TM says:

    “There are a lot of cases of middle aged women teachers having sex with 16/17 aged male students.”
    _________________
    And tons of women in the 20s and 30s do that, too.

  202. Cash Cow TM says:

    Gloria Allred

    real dog liar L
    regal old rail
    real gold rail
    red LA gorilla
    large old rail

  203. Bitterlaw says:

    Apparently, wives do not necessarily mean it when they say that they want honesty. I told my wife that I had a dream where I killed myself so that she would find a better, more successful husband. In the dream, she looked at me in the coffin and said, “Thank you.”

    For some reason, she thought that was disturbing.

  204. Bitterlaw says:

    If Walt is as old as the universe and mnw if older than Walt…mnw is either God or we need some really smart scientists to explain it.

  205. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Ah old dumb white people at it again. Creating false equivalencies. As if Franken’s supposed forced kissing in a skit the other party agreed to is the same as forcing a 14-year old to give you a blow job.

    Your tiny brains were never designed to exist in the social media world. It can only see in black and white.

    Enjoy electing a pedophile to the US Senate. What a great and amazing accomplishment; truly a thing that will put you back on the right side of history.

    Oh wait.

  206. Tina says:

    Clynurn plus Piglosi plus Allred equals Roy Moore winning the Al Senate seat.

  207. Tgca says:

    210 Bitter

    Not true. Women prefer honesty.

    So next your time the wifey asks if the those jeans make her look fat, simply reply, “actually they do honey, why don’t you wear something more loose fitting to hide your hips.”

    I give this advice to all my straight male friends.

  208. Cash Cow TM says:

    Hey DW,

    I added another one…

    Busy day, another new one:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Busy day, another new one:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Busy day, another new one:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis – CNN senior producer of “State of the
    Union” (hosted by Jake Tapper)

    Cash Cow glad to help out.

  209. Cash Cow TM says:

    …errr…triple post…

  210. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – Your advise is simply part of your marketing campaign to make sure these guts are shunned by women so they will join your team.

  211. Bitterlaw says:

    Advice

  212. Cash Cow TM says:

    advice

    AV dice?
    cave ad?
    I C Dave?

  213. Cash Cow TM says:

    How did the Bosnian guy on trial in Europe get poison to drink while being filmed on TV in the court room?

  214. Tgca says:

    217 Bitter

    So untrue. I’m just trying to be helpful. Women appreciate honesty instead of guys trying to sweet talk them. I had a friend who really got into active healthy lifestyle and was trying to find a way to get his girl involved too without being pushy. I suggested he share the benefits of a healthy lifestyle with her so they have something in common that they can do together, and for Xmas he get some arm strength bands for him and a thigh master for her so they can do some quality workouts together.

  215. BayernFan says:

    We still don’t know how Goering got cyanide.

  216. Cash Cow TM says:

    thigh master

    high matters

  217. Tina says:

    Rubio says that there is a senate slush fund for the offenders.

    Story just gets bigger.

  218. lisab says:

    In the dream, she looked at me in the coffin and said, “Thank you.”

    For some reason, she thought that was disturbing.
    ——————————————–

    duh … you cannot collect life insurance if it is suicide …

  219. DW says:

    Thanks Cash Cow for filling in while I was away at church:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer

  220. lisab says:

    As if Franken’s supposed forced kissing in a skit the other party agreed to is the same as forcing a 14-year old to give you a blow job.
    ——————————————

    she did not agree to it

    and moore is not accused of forcing a 14 yo to give him a bj

    you cannot even troll without spreading “fake news”

  221. Transparent Dem Troll says:

    Rough day here at the DNC troll center. We regret to announce that one of our best trolls has been fired due accusations of misconduct toward other trolls. A replacement will be assigned to HHR as soon as possible.

  222. lisab says:

    these accusations are getting out of control.

    they obviously were trying to target fox news and trump

    but they are bringing down half of congress and most of hollywood

    it is reminiscent of the french reign of terror

    they wanted trump and got matt lauer

  223. lisab says:

    Rough day here at the DNC troll center.
    —————————————-

    at least your trolls should not be incorrectly paraphrasing the stories cnn made up.

    cnn went to a lot of trouble to fabricate those stories, the least you could do is report them accurately

  224. DW says:

    229 – hoping better and more respectful treatment of women in our society results from all this.

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    Tg – My wife runs or does exercise 6 days a week. I encourage her from the couch. I am sure she appreciates it.

  226. janz says:

    DW’s list, with additional names supplied by others, is mind boggling. So many D’s on it – disproportionately so. The tables are certainly being turned on social progressive virtue signaling!

  227. lisab says:

    hoping better and more respectful treatment of women in our society results from all this.
    ————————————

    a nice thought, but i doubt it, at least not for a long while.

    the thing is, most of these people don’t think they did anything wrong

    i am still reading the book

    kennedy babylon

    jfk, robert and teddy just had no morals at all when it came to women

  228. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Lisab is so dumb. Helpless old white women are so pathetic. You were probably raped at some point and internalized it into mentall illness rather than doing something about it which is why you have to approach it from a partisan angle.

    Young and empowered women are happy corruption is being rooted out no matter who it is. It’s not that republican men are less sexually abusove. It’s that they are surroinded by pathetic ingrates like you who ask for more.

    Good thing you’re not teaching my kids. I woildn’t want them to be influenced by such a pathetic ignorant person.

  229. janz says:

    As for Roy Moore – it seems AL is dismissing much of the hysteria surrounding decades old allegations. One thing he has going for him is that whatever was alledged he did, before he was married, has yet cropped up as a continuing pattern in the last 35 + years. I’m actually surprised by such a lengthy void, considering how many consider him a dyed-in-the-wool pervert.

  230. lisab says:

    So many D’s on it – disproportionately so
    ——————————————–

    well there are several explanations

    a.) some r’s in congress may legitimately have strong christian beliefs and not be cinos

    b.) the r’s in congress have to hide their bad behavior more, while the d’s have enjoyed media protection for years so had gotten very open about their issues

    i doubt most dems in congress think what bill clinton did with monica is wrong and even fewer would classify it as a sin.

  231. janz says:

    Lisab – human clods are best ignored.

  232. lisab says:

    which is why you have to approach it from a partisan angle.
    ———————-

    says the troll

  233. lisab says:

    I’m actually surprised by such a lengthy void, considering how many consider him a dyed-in-the-wool pervert.
    —————————————-

    eh … i am not sure that actually is how it works.

    unlike pedophilia, which is pretty much considered an incurable mental illness

    being attracted to a post-pubescent teen is not really considered a mental illness. creepy and icky maybe, but not a mental illness. loretta lynn was married at 15 or so.

    so i would not be at all surprised, if the stories are true, that he just liked teens until he got married and then he was faithful to his wife.

  234. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Lisab again tries to make stupid generalizations based off a few anecdotes. What re tarded b*tch. Wrong over and over and over again.

    Together with Jan you are 2 perfect peas in an enabler pod, seeking only facts that reinforce what you already believe.

    At the end of the day you want to enable a child molester to the Senate. No false eqivalency will hide what you really are; spineless old b*tches.

  235. lisab says:

    actually i hope moore loses, based on his politics. you might know that if you were not a troll.

    however, if you have actual evidence that he is a child molester, which he is not accused of btw, then please reveal it.

    i oppose him simply because he is not a secularist, i don’t need unproven allegations to oppose him.

  236. Cash Cow TM says:

    “unproven allegations”

    non-alligator’s P venue
    give all neat pronouns
    Pluto’s neon grave nail

  237. Hugh says:

    232. Same thing at my house. She exercises for two and I drink for two. Skinny wife happy life.

  238. Redmen4ever says:

    AL Senate

    [1] 6 polls 4-week period ending 10/10 +8.1
    [2] 4 polls 4-week period ending 11/7 +11.6
    [3] 8 polls 1-week period ending 11/14 +5.6
    [4] 4 polls 0.5 week period ending 11/18 -4.3
    [5] 7 polls 1.5 week period ending 11/28 +4.5

  239. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #245
    RRH has flagged a new Alabama Senate poll. Do you know anything about it? Is it incorporated into your Week 5 results above?

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10212272675744902&id=1018567072

  240. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    November 29, 2017 at 10:45 am
    I noticed MG could not find a single flaw of Christie as a person.
    —————————————————————————-
    Where should I begin. LOL

    1. Christie affair with Michele Brown

    2. Christie abused his power as Attorney General to bribe and extort his political opponents.

    3. Christie lies about Ed Tamm Jr being under investigation by the county prosecutor to win a republican primary for a seat on Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders. Tamm sued Christie successfully for defamation.

    4. “Bridge Gate” testimony in a trial that convicted two Bridgegate conspirators, according to reporting from The Record, appeared to tie him directly to the scandal. The two indicted, Bridget Anne Kelly, the governor’s former deputy chief of staff, and Bill Baroni, the top Christie executive appointee at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, were both convicted. David Wildstein, the Christie-appointed Port Authority official also behind Bridgegate, pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiracy. Bitter wants us to believe that Christie a former prosecutor and an in your face type of guy had no idea what his staff was doing. LOL That would make Christie an inept, clueless, buffoon where his staff had no fear of their boss and did whatever they wanted to with or without his permission.

    5.(Christie on the beach) He shutdown the govt which closes all state parks to the public during the July 4 holiday weekend but, deems himself, his family and friends above that law. Bitter, can you say arrogant jerk?

    6.(Christie’s food bill) In 2015 that Christie spent $360,000 from his state allowance during his five years in office – more than 80 percent of which, or $300,000, was used to buy food, alcohol and desserts.
    Some of Christie’s most notable expenses happened during the 2010 and 2011 NFL football seasons at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, where the Giants and Jets play their home games. Christie used a debit card, on 58 occasions, to pay a total of $82,594 for concessions at MetLife, according to the NJ Watchdog report.

    7. (Ripping on Philly fans) Christie may have found another way to lower his approval rating even more with many, many New Jerseyans – especially South Jerseyans. That’s because many, many South Jerseyans – and it’s probably in the thousands, at least – are fans of the Philadelphia Eagles football team.

    8.(Presidential Run) New Jersey voters were peeved when he abandoned the state to campaign for president, putting his national ambitions ahead of the state’s interests. A 2015 survey of conservative New Jersey voters found that only 5 percent supported his decision to run.

    9. (Gas Tax) As if to deliberately solidify his unpopularity, last week Christie signed a bill increasing the gas tax 23 cents—the first gas tax increase since 1988.

    10. (Selfish Presidential desires) Christie not only praises Obama’s handling of Hurricane Sandy relief efforts but, goes one step further and appears on most of the talks shows to praise Obama stopping Mitt Romney’s momentum and let’s not forget what he did to Rubio at the debates.

    I could go on and on but, I think I made my point. Bitterlaw wants you to believe that Christie is unpopular because he is a republican even though he won two terms as a republican and because of Trump even though he was unpopular before he endorsed Trump. LOL

  241. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzz. Never heard of Michele Brown. MG probably does not know that that the beach house where Christie stayed is owned by New Jersey. I guess he should not have lived in the Governor’s mansion, either.

    Bridge Gate? Zzzzzzzz. Never charged.

    Polling conservatives in New Jersey? There might be 10 in the entire state and 6 of them are in my family (and support Christie)

    Obama on the beach? There is no evidence it cost Romney a single state.

    My main criticism of Christie is that he supported a dirtbag like Trump. I’m sure MG approved of that move.

  242. Bitterlaw says:

    While I do not like Christie being a fan of the Cowboys, I respect t him for not changing his fandom. He has always been a Dallas fan. If he suddenly became a Giants, Jets or Eagles fan when he was elected, I would rip him for it.

  243. Bitterlaw says:

    Still nothing from MG that compares to Trump wanting to date his daughter or being married three times.

  244. MichiganGuy says:

    BL is obviously in a state of denial. His cult like worship of Christie has made him unable to think rationally. So, I will not waste anymore time trying to bring some reality into BL insane world. LOL

  245. DW says:

    whoops…yet ANOTHER Franken accuser comes forward:

    FIFTH WOMAN FINGERS FRANKEN: VET SAYS GROPED ON USO TOUR…

    …link at Drudge.

  246. DW says:

    yet Franken continues to get a pass.

  247. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer

    Six added yesterday, how many today? I am still stunned by the Garrison Keillor fall. More than any of the rest of them, he had cast himself as sort of a Paul Harvey type with his daily radio piece ‘The Writer’s Almanac’ where he encouraged everyone to do good work and so forth.

  248. DW says:

    Party breakdown:

    Democrats: 20
    Republicans: 4

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer

  249. Bitterlaw says:

    MG is obviously in a state of denial. His cult like worship of Trump has made him unable to think rationally. So, I will not waste anymore time trying to bring some reality into MG’s insane world. LOL

    I fixed it for you. Why don’t you try to defend Trump saying he would date his daughter?

  250. Redmen4ever says:

    246 thanks for link. First time I’m seeing this poll.

  251. Redmen4ever says:

    This is the second poll of Alabama by Rick Shaftan doing business as Atlantic Media & Research, a Republican outfit. His prior poll, last week, showed Moore at +3.

  252. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The DOW just crossed the 24000 mark. WINNING!!!

  253. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #259
    Gracias. Do you have a good link?

  254. MichiganGuy says:

    Why don’t you try to defend Trump saying he would date his daughter?
    ——————————————————
    BL, I don’t need to defend Trump because, unlike your cult like worship of Christie; I don’t idolize Trump. Like I have said before, I only support Trump because he nominates conservative Judges. He is a useful tool. No more, no less.

  255. Redmen4ever says:

    No link Sheeple. I recognized the name.

  256. jason says:

    Young and empowered women are happy corruption is being rooted out no matter who it is. It’s not that republican men are less sexually abusove. It’s that they are surroinded by pathetic ingrates like you who ask for more.”

    Wow, if lisab was an A-hole she would get major points…

  257. Redmen4ever says:

    Spike in Dow at opening: no doubt due to budget bill advancing from committee to full Senate.

  258. jason says:

    Looks like PeteWilson is hysterical that a flaming liberal might not win a senate seat in Alabama.

    Maybe if you had run someone who actually had an interest in representing the people of AL it would be easier to reject Roy Moore.

    I know, moderate Dems don’t exist anymore so you are stuck with moonbats.

    But don’t feel bad, Rs have run deadenders and given up easy seats too.

  259. Ron N says:

    Which ones sink the econmy and votes on No taxes?
    McCain stick to president
    Flack see above
    Corker see above
    Collins just because
    I feel everyone else will come around even if they can’t get what they want on the tax bill.

  260. jason says:

    I am done with Christie, he is a scumbag traitor IMO. As I have stated, never was I so wrong about a politician as I was about Christie.

    That being said, it has nothing to do with any of the bogus list of Christie’s “flaws” that MG listed above, a huge collection of garbage, innuendo and fantasy.

    Christie sold out to Trump because he thought he would get a cabinet position, and for that he reneged on a lot of his principles.

    Bridgegate? ZZZzzzzz. Gas tax? Zzzzzzz Beach picture? Zzzzzz Expenses? Zzzzzzz

  261. jason says:

    I think Collins and Corker will support the bill in the end. Collins has decided to stay in the Senate that may help. Hopefully Corker can overcome the fact Trump has acted like a real jerk towards him.

    Trump might have burned too many bridges with McCain and Flake unfortunately (and stupidly).

    I think if they get Corker it passes.

  262. DW says:

    For the celebration of Christmas here are my favorite Christmas Carols, A to Z:

    Angels We Have Heard on High
    Bring a Torch, Jeanette, Isabella
    Coventry Carol | Carol of the Bells
    Ding Dong! Merrily on High
    Every Valley Shall Be Exalted
    For Unto Us a Child is Born
    Good Christian Men Rejoice
    Hark! The Herald Angels Sing | Here We come A-Wassailing
    I Saw Three Ships | In the Bleak Midwinter
    Jesus, Jesus, Rest Your Head | Joy to the World
    Kling Glöckchen (Ring Little Bell)
    Lo, How a Rose E’er Blooming
    Masters in the Hall
    Noel Nouvelet (Sing We Now of Christmas)
    O Come, O Come, Emmanuel | O Holy Night
    Pat-a-Pan
    Rise Up, Shepherd, and Follow
    Still, Still, Still | Silent Night
    The Holly and the Ivy | The Sussex Carol
    Ukrainian Bell Carol
    Wexford Carol | What Child is This?
    Zither Carol

  263. MichiganGuy says:

    DW, you forgot

    Quoniam tu solus Sanctus (Antonio Vivaldi)

    Veiled in darkness Judah lay

    I can’t find one for x unless you count xmad

  264. Tina says:

    Which real con will vote no on the tax cuts.

    You no, he or she needs media press.

    Come election, they will be for tax cuts.

  265. MichiganGuy says:

    Also, you missed Y

    Ye patriarchs and ancient sires
    Yesterday, with exultation
    Yule returns, come, Christian people

  266. MichiganGuy says:

    xmad = Xmas lol

  267. DW says:

    271 – my list is of songs I have heard and like…many did not make the list, but I wasn’t going to fill in a letter just to make it complete.

    Its unfortunate that many just get locked in on a small collection of Christmas songs and neglect some great music among lesser known songs like Masters in the Hall, The Sussex Carol, I Saw Three Ships, and Bring a Torch Jeanette Isabella.

  268. Cash Cow TM says:

    Add another to DW’s

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senate actor
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons – Music Mogul and co-founder of
    Def Jam

    Cash Cow is on this:
    –like a duck on a June bug
    –like an obese person on a box of donuts

  269. DW says:

    Next week we find out if Christians are on a path that ends in prison, or if free speech wins out.

    http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2017/11/20581/

  270. Todd McCain says:

    Still waiting for DEM SENATORS to declare that Franken should resign…..

    The moral superiority on this from DEMS has been destroyed. MSM is even calling them on it.

  271. DW says:

    Good catch Cash Cow…just adding the party ID:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – “Journalist”/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – “Journalist”
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film “actor”
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – “Entertainer”, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – “Journalist”
    Glenn Thrush (D) – “Journalist”
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – “Journalist”
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – “Journalist”
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief “News” editor.
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of “News”
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul and co-founder of Def Jam

  272. DW says:

    279 – It reminds me of election night 2016 when Clinton was apparently refusing to concede and was called on it because she had accused Trump not being willing to concede. Hoist on her own petard.

  273. Cash Cow TM says:

    I thought once while listing to the Prairie Home Companion, I heard Garrison Keillor inappropriately pinch some woman’s butt.

  274. jason says:

    After careful thought and consideration, I have decided to support the Senate tax reform bill,” McCain said in a statement. “I believe this legislation, though far from perfect, would enhance American competitiveness, boost the economy, and provide long overdue tax relief for middle class families.

  275. Paul says:

    Very disappointed with McCain.

  276. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE


    Mysterious odor plagues LA…”
    #############################
    I categorically deny being responsible in any way.
    I take pills to curb my gas.

  277. Phil says:

    Disappointed in McCain?

    I can see why. He’s normally your reliably useful idiot.

  278. Todd McCain says:

    I TOLD YOU MCCAIN WAS ON BOARD!~

  279. jason says:

    I thought you meant Todd McCain

  280. jason says:

    Poor Paul Troll… its going to be a tough 4-8 years.

  281. jason says:

    I like Rubio… but the WSJ seems to be right on this one.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-rubio-schumer-amendment-1511998489

  282. Phil says:

    So Scarborough believes Trump has mental issues and should be removed from office.

    OL Joe is marrying Mika and Trump is the one insane?

    Give it a rest, Joe.

  283. jason says:

    Garrison Keilor has always been a second amendment hating flaming liberal, good riddance.

  284. Phil says:

    Don’t let the door hit ya, Garrison.

  285. jason says:

    So Scarborough believes Trump has mental issues”

    Henpecked already, that is what Mika said that earned her Trump’s bleeding face attack.

  286. jason says:

    “would enhance American competitiveness, boost the economy, and provide long overdue tax relief for middle class families.”

    This is what Paul Troll is REALLY disappointed with…

    This might give opportunity to poor people to get ahead in life and stop depending on the government.

    A frightening thought for the moonbats.

  287. jason says:

    I categorically deny being responsible in any way.
    I take pills to curb my gas.”

    Sorry Cash Cow, but your flatulence is making the oceans rise, and is fueling hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts and pestilence.

    You might have to make the ultimate sacrifice for the good of humanity.

    And there is room in my freezer.

  288. Tina says:

    Has the gop e asked franken to resign?

  289. DW says:

    Pelosi calling for Conyers to resign…drip..drip…

  290. Bitterlaw says:

    And there is room in my freezer.

    That’s cold.

  291. Bitterlaw says:

    Pelosi calling for Conyers to resign…drip..drip…

    Why not? She can get another lib in there for another 50+ years.

    CCC

  292. DW says:

    Democrat Party a bunch of frauds claiming to be the party to defend women–look at their long history of defending abusers of women. Pelosi drags her feet and finally comes out to call for Conyers to step down. Still silence on Franken, even though the list of accusers is growing, and there was photographic proof.

  293. mnw says:

    The fact that McStain is a yes means that he knew it would pass with or without him. He will revert to norm if and when he is ever in a position to kill it.

  294. DW says:

    Another one to add to list, this time a Republican…

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator

  295. Paul says:

    methane odor

    hormone date
    manhood tree
    hot demeanor
    or methadone
    then are doom

  296. MichiganGuy says:

    Bernie Sanders Pushes $146 Billion Puerto Rico Relief Package

    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/bernie-sanders-puerto-rico/

    LOL

  297. ssq says:

    nd there is room in my freezer.

    That’s cold.”

    Aren’t all freezers cold?

  298. jason says:

    he fact that McStain is a yes means that he knew it would pass with or without him.”

    Or it could be someone who has already sacrificed so much for the country has decided that the country is bigger than Trump and he is willing to sacrifice his ego this time.

  299. DW says:

    305 – Bernie has no problem opening your wallet to help…why doesn’t he send his own money?

  300. jason says:

    Has the gop e asked franken to resign?”

    If you want to see Moore elected (I admit, its hard to want that) its better that Franken stay on until at least after the election in AL.

  301. jason says:

    hy doesn’t he send his own money?”

    Wife’s legal bills.

  302. jason says:

    Make Puerto Rico a state and I will support sending $146 billion.

  303. MichiganGuy says:

    Multiple news outlets reported Thursday the White House has hatched a plan to replace Tillerson with CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362562-trump-on-tillerson-rex-is-here

    Good, Tillerson is the weakest SOS I’ve seen in a long time.

  304. mnw says:

    I note McConnell slipped today and said “when Moore is elected” instead of “if.”

    RE: post #241:

    Calling lisab, a longtime poster here, a PROFANE name (as opposed to his usual “moron”) ought to get the Kindergarden (sic) Kid banned, IMO.

    Other posters correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t that always been regarded as a step too far, heretofore? We are talking about a semiliterate psychopath.

  305. MichiganGuy says:

    #307 Jason, your a funny guy.

  306. MichiganGuy says:

    mnw, I agree

  307. MichiganGuy says:

    your =you’re sorry grammar police

  308. DW says:

    Joe Barton is not running again. I had him on the list, but someone asked that he be removed because he didn’t do anything illegal. But I am going to put him back on the list given the creepiness and disgusting nature of what he did do.

  309. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Keith Olbermann (D) – Journalist
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman

  310. Paul says:

    I think Joe Barton was a decent man. And a decent moderate GOP. Nothing he did was illegal, but I think his constituents eyes might not recover from what they’ve seen.

  311. jason says:

    Barton is not accused of anything… he is the victim here.

  312. mnw says:

    MG

    I am NO grammar cop!

    I just detest the Kindergarden (sic) Kid & resent him calling everybody ELSE “a moron” constantly, when he writes like an 8th Grader himself.

  313. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – Bitch is hardly the worst thing that lisab has been called here. I don’t like it and I do not support it. Janz was also called some vulgar names – ironically by some posters who used to defend her from others calling her names.

    Civility was finished here by 2005.

  314. jason says:

    I give Barton a pass. Sue me.

  315. jason says:

    Yeah, nobody is forced to post here. lisab can fend for herself. HHR is a rough place, anybody who doesn’t like it is free to leave.

  316. jason says:

    ther posters correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t that always been regarded as a step too far, heretofore?”

    You are wrong.

  317. Bitterlaw says:

    I would add Jason to the list but the llama refuses to give details about the incident.

  318. Paul says:

    326: I agree. Embarrassing and stupid but nothing wrong.

  319. Tgca says:

    In full transparency and disclosure, I am taking this opportunity to fully disclose that I once inappropriately touched myself as an adolescent. I now acknowledge this was wrong and inappropriate behavior. I am ashamed and I want all to know this behavior was inexcusable then and is inexcusable today. I ask for understanding and forgiveness from all. I believe that behavior alone should not define me as a whole, as it does not reflect the person I am today.

    In closing, I would also like to acknowledge, all who know me know that I have had relationships with both men and women (no animals though) and for many years now, I have decided to live my life as a gay male and am the resident HHR gay mascot (sorry Michael…I was the original HHR gay gnat).

    Thank you for understanding.

    Love and peace

    Tgca

  320. jason says:

    I guess we all have our standards at what is offensive

    I find calling someone with John McCain’s record of service and sacrifice to his country “McStain” is much more offensive than calling someone a b-tch.

  321. jason says:

    In the absence of any competition, I nominate Tgca’s post as “gay post of the day”.

  322. DW says:

    321-I hear you jason, but given Barton had a 100% socially conservative rating from the Family Research Council and then does what he does…a huge hypocrite.

    Furthermore, he apparently threatened a woman to not use the material in a way that would hurt his career. In short, his behavior was that of an immature 18 year old, not someone of his age and stature.

    I understand no one has accused him of abuse, but the fact that he is stepping down suggests there is more to the story.

  323. jason says:

    would add Jason to the list but the llama refuses to give details about the incident.”

    If I am added list me as jason(I) since I quit the R party.

    And yes, Lupita’s lips are sealed…

  324. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – Embrace your gayness! Be fabulous!

    – The A-holes.

  325. jason says:

    but the fact that he is stepping down suggests there is more to the story.”

    Zzzzzz.. so why don’t you wait to see if that is actually the case.

    And believe me if Joe Barton wanted to run again he would be re-elected 30 times.

  326. jason says:

    Let it be on record that DW’s list includes people not accused of anything but it is “suggested that there may be more to the story”.

  327. Bitterlaw says:

    Simple Rules to Avoid Being on DW’s list:

    1. Do not touch anybody unless you are married to them.

    2. Do not talk to anybody. About anything. Ever.

    3. Do not write to anybody. About anything. Ever.

    4. Do not answer the phone.

    5. Look at the ground at all times unless somebody is on the ground. Then look at the sky.

  328. jason says:

    mnw, MG really doesn’t know how to spell. He should go back to grammar school, don’t be apologetic.

  329. jason says:

    Oh, I forgot, “immature behavior” gets you on DW’s list too.

    I hope Dave buys some more bandwidth.

  330. DW says:

    and yet another one:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor

  331. jason says:

    have had relationships with both men and women (no animals though)”

    Tgca admits to discriminatory behavior.

    DW, pls add Tgca (G) to the list.

  332. DW says:

    bitter and jason, I don’t like it when the left is guilty of gross hypocrisy, so I want to be consistent when someone with an R after his name is guilty of gross hypocrisy. Just the same, I took Barton off the list initially, but then reading today that he threatened a woman against using the material he sent her, I put him back on the list. I grant that inclusion / exclusion is going to have close calls.

  333. jason says:

    DW, here’s a suggestion:

    Hey jason, feel free to come up with your own list, GFY.

  334. jason says:

    I like it when other people say what I would have said.

  335. DW says:

    343 – that works too. Thinking back, this list started actually to track those who have been accused of inappropriate behavior that in fact could also be illegal behavior. I admit its a diverse list, with some denying the accusations, some admitting it. Some more disgusting than others, some fired from their jobs, others aren’t.

    The common thread though is women coming forward to expose the behavior of someone famous, or at least well-known, with the intent of bringing harm to the person’s reputation whether the man’s actions were illegal, disgusting, unwelcomed, or all three.

    I think everyone on the list fits this definition.

  336. Tgca says:

    341 Jason

    Yes, I have already admitted to inappropriate behavior with a myself as a minor many years ago but I do not feel it is fair to hold me to standards of discriminatory behavior. I do admit petting and hugging dogs, pulling their ears and tails,rubbing their bellies, and having sleepovers in my bed, but it was all innocent play and nothing remotely inappropriate. Just like Michael Jackson….oh wait…bad analogy. Scratch that.

  337. jason says:

    Sorry Tgca, but you discriminated against the dogs. As stated above HHR is a rough place. Deal with it.

  338. Tgca says:

    Women are guilty of many of the behaviors we see with men but any man coming forward complaining about it would be ridiculed and have his masculinity and sexual orientation questioned. It’s a 2x standard. I’ve had women grab my butt, make sexual innuendoes, and even flash their breasts at me or expose themselves in their bra, could you imagine if I complained as a young guy? People would be like “F*g” which I guess is not totally inaccurate, but I digress.

    Some of the behaviors here are extreme (e.g. sexual assault) but many are just women seeking attention or their 15 minutes of fame I believe.

  339. Tgca says:

    Jason, I am in a polygamous relationship with 2 female dogs. Our bond is very strong and transcends the need for any physical relations beyond the occasional head pats, ear scratches, and belly rubs. Therefore, I disagree with your discrimination characterization. Me and the b*tches are committed to each other.

  340. mnw says:

    I can think of literally nothing more authoritarian & anti-democratic than expelling a duly elected legislator from a legislature.

    What that means is, WE decide who belongs in this club, not the voters. I hate the idea of expelling Conyers or Franken too. Referrals to the ethics committee & a recommendation of criminal prosecution? Fine by me. Recall (where allowed)? Sure.

    But talk about your slippery slope…

    In real life, Moore ain’t gonna be expelled or anything else, except probably shunned. It takes 2/3 to expel. DEMS no gotta if Trump opposes, which he obviously would.

    Trump is about to launch anti-Jones robocalls in AL, apparently, btw.

  341. jason says:

    Stop the presses, this could be a first in MSM history.

    An “embattled” Democrat?

    “Embattled Rep. John Conyers “sure as hell” will not be pressured into resigning, a lawyer for the 88-year-old Michigan congressman vowed Thursday, just an hour after House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said he should step down amid sexual harassment allegations.”

    But rest assured, no Democrat has yet faced a “quagmire”.

  342. jason says:

    can think of literally nothing more authoritarian & anti-democratic than expelling a duly elected legislator from a legislature.”

    Why not, if the allegations can be proven, kick the scumbag out.

    Nothing authoritarian or anti-Democratic about it.

  343. mnw says:

    Gosh I had no idea he was that old.

  344. DW says:

    353 – cool to have Pelosi and Conyers right now as leaders of the Dem party. If SusyQue were here she would make some off the wall comment about it.

  345. mnw says:

    Why is all of the expulsion talk being directed at Moore, and not Alcee Hastings (back in the day) or Menendez?

    I doubt that expulsion would pass Constitutional muster. I referred to the leading SCOTUS case on that the other day, although technically that concerned “refusal to seat” Socialist legislators.

    Is there nothing anti-democratic about that either, Jason? “Scumbag” isn’t an easily defined criminal term of art. Absent criminal conduct, “scumbag” is anyone a 2:3 majority doesn’t like.

    Who protects the interests of the Alabama voters to have their elected Senator seated, like every other state’s?

  346. Tgca says:

    352 mnw

    I agree. The voters have made their choice and Congress should honor it unless their is a specific law or rule that allows otherwise. US history has been littered with many legislators involved in egregious and bad behavior, and even criminal behavior. Let the law prevail and not a bunch of political hacks trying to score points by piling up on the accused. If this becomes the new standard, we will be forcing folks from office on a regular basis.

    I also wonder if this is an attempt by some to set a new precedent to get rid of folks who otherwise won fair ad square electorally. I could see Dems arguing we got rid of Franken and Conyers so it’s only fair we get rid of Trump too. This is not the will of the ballot box or any legal process, it’s political payback.

  347. mnw says:

    SCOTUS said “uh, no” when Congress refused to seat a Wisconsin Congressman named Victor Berger (I think that was his name) because Socialist. Rep. Berger was subsequently sworn in after SCOTUS slapped Congress down.

  348. Tina says:

    Conyers is not resigning. He is i ply8 g that piglosi is a racist. Why does he have to go, but not Franken.

  349. jason says:

    Is there nothing anti-democratic about that either, Jason? “Scumbag” isn’t an easily defined criminal term of art.”

    I call Moore a scumbag because he has not respect for the rule of law or the Constitution.

    He is not fit for office and should never have been allowed to run.

    If he wins, he wins. However, IF the allegations can be proven, a big IF, there is nothing anti-Democratic about kicking him out. Nada. Zilch.

  350. ssq says:

    “If SusyQue were here she would make some off the wall comment about it.”

    You rannnnnggggggg?

    Thank God God is a Republican.

  351. jason says:

    his is not the will of the ballot box or any legal process, it’s political payback.”

    Horsh-t.

    The process by which Moore could be expelled exists and IS entirely legal.

    I hope the scumbag wins by 1 vote and is expelled.

  352. jason says:

    I am the first to defend Trump here when morons like Wobbie want to overturn the results of the election which he won fair and square.

    That is because the collusion charge is completely bogus.

    However, IF Trump was guilty of an impeachable offense, it would not be “anti-Democratic” to impeach him.

    In the same manner, IF the charges against Moore are somehow proven, its not anti-democratic to expel him.

    When I say I hope he is expelled, I don’t mean without proof. I personally want him out of the Senate because he has violated his oath of office to obey the Constitution several times, he thinks he is above the law. For that reason he should not serve in the Senate. I understand that is not

  353. DW says:

    I want Franken, Conyers, and Pelosi to hang on as long as possible. Would be far worse if they were all replaced with younger and scandal free liberals. As it is, they are great for GOP campaigns to run against.

  354. jason says:

    grounds to expel him, it should have been grounds to deny him to run as a Republican.

  355. jason says:

    I want Franken, Conyers, and Pelosi to hang on as long as possible.”

    Me too.

  356. jason says:

    Nobody could say Golly like Jim Neighbors.

    – Jon Gruden

  357. DW says:

    368 – his best Andy Griffith Show episode was the one where Barney deputized him to help out when they had to hold in jail a couple of dangerous convicts. Barney stationed Gomer on the roof, but he kept falling asleep up there and each time Andy hollered up to him, he startled awake and dropped his rifle off the roof. Then in a twist in the plot, as Barney kept getting fooled by the criminals allowing them to escape (and Andy had to recapture them), at the end it was Gomer who unknowningly recaptured them by knocking a basket of Christmas light bulbs off the roof and when the fleeing bandits heard them hitting the ground mistook the popping sound for a machine gun and so they surrendered.

  358. DW says:

    yeah, somehow he got six syllables out of golly.

  359. DW says:

    And he pronounced Hawaii, ‘High-wire’

  360. Tina says:

    Paul Ryan just stated that piglosi and chuck missing the meeting with trump cost them DACA.

  361. mnw says:

    The law on expulsion is clearly in favor of the expulsion process, since it’s in the Constitution. However it is clearly Unconstitutioal to refuse to seat a duly elected member.

    With one or two exceptions, expulsion has been used only against pro-Confederate members of Congress during the Civil War. The exceptions I can recall were those caught red-handed taking bribes.

    If 2/3 want to expell Moore for unproven uncharged conduct that allegedly occurred 40 years ago, and presumably give Franken a pass, then the DEMs get what they always wanted— one crucial less vote for everything Trump wants.

  362. jason says:

    If 2/3 want to expell Moore for unproven uncharged conduct that allegedly occurred 40 years ago, and presumably give Franken a pass, then the DEMs get what they always wanted— one crucial less vote for everything Trump wants.”

    BS, nobody said to expel him for unproven charges.

    And if he is expelled there will be another election and presumably a non-scumbag R will be elected.

  363. jason says:

    Dang, Moore accuses Tgca for the allegations against him…

    Who knew?

    “They’re liberals. They don’t hold conservative values,” Moore said of the people he says are trying to ruin his campaign. “They are the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender who want to change our culture.”

  364. mnw says:

    How could the accusations ever be “proven,” Jason?

  365. Tgca says:

    I think we all agree if there is a legal or rule process to remove or force someone from office, that is legit. But to expect someone to resign or deny them entry beyond a defined precedential process is anti-democratic and against the will of the voters, otherwise, why have voters at all. I trust the voters over a group of self-serving politicians anyway even if I don’t like the outcome. senators were not always directly elected and that power is given to the voters now.

    Who decides what behavior qualifies to sit in office and does not without specific legal precedent or rules?

    I agree that many politicians should be tossed out for variations reasons but their constituents who elected them may not agree with me.

    …but one thing we all can agree on is Jason is a great guy that is well loved at HHR, and has a place in our hearts for life that will never be subject to expulsion.

  366. NYCmike says:

    I guess they could not keep the feeding tube in and his mouth shut until after the election…..

  367. Redmen4ever says:

    RE Wisconsin Congressman Victor Berger:

    Berger, a socialist, was found guilty of violating the Espionage Act and was subsequently removed from office by the House of Representative. His conviction (NOT his removal from office) was subsequently overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    1918 – convicted and elected
    1919 – removed
    1920 – elected and removed a second time
    1921 – conviction overturned by Supreme Court
    1922 – elected
    1923 – warmly received by the House

    President Harding made a big point about getting past the war and getting over the opposition to the war by socialists (and others) such as Eugene V. Debs. Harding made a point about inviting Debs to Christmas dinner in the White House, and pardoned just about all those who had been imprisoned because of their opposition to the war.

  368. Redmen4ever says:

    RE: Moore

    First, the Senate Ethics Committee can subpoena the yearbook. if the yearbook is examined by the FBI, there is a good possibility of a definitive resolution of the matter. If it is found to be a forgery, the whole matter goes away. If it is found to be authentic, enough Republicans will announce their intention to remove Moore, that the man would be well advised to go away.

  369. NYCmike says:

    “…but one thing we all can agree on is Jason is a great guy that is well loved at HHR, and has a place in our hearts for life that will never be subject to expulsion.”

    -Had to re-read this a couple of times…..another TRUMP MIRACLE!

  370. jason says:

    How could the accusations ever be “proven,” Jason?”

    He could admit to them.

    There could be something in writing like the yearbook thing that could be documented. There could be letters people wrote about it to each other at the time.

    But if you notice in my post above I did not understate the difficulty of proving the allegations..

    “However, IF the allegations can be proven, a big IF, there is nothing anti-Democratic about kicking him out”

  371. jason says:

    …but one thing we all can agree on is Jason is a great guy that is well loved at HHR, and has a place in our hearts for life that will never be subject to expulsion.”

    Zzzzz… another sordid attempt to besmirch my reputation.

    Sighh…. people never learn….

  372. mnw says:

    Redeem

    Congress tried to exclude Adam Clayton Powell. Remember him? SCOTUS said no, that Congress can expel but not exclude. Expulsion is not subject to adjudication,* but exclusion IS subject to adjudication.

    *Even expulsion, one SCOTUS case noted, might be unconstitutional if made on an improper basis (race, etc.).

  373. mnw says:

    should be Redmen

  374. Paul says:

    Romney to replace Tillerson.

  375. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Jason, the intellectual inferior of a Zika baby, is now defending Roy Moore.

    Gross Old Paedophiles … and their enablers.

  376. NYCmike says:

    “Romney to replace Tillerson.”

    -I don’t see this ending well…..

  377. Mr.Vito says:

    DW, how do you like Medishare?

  378. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/362569-rasmussen-poll-americans-give-fox-news-the-fake-news-trophy

    ROFL. Your favorite pollster calls your favorite news channel Fake News.

  379. jason says:

    Jason, the intellectual inferior of a Zika baby, is now defending Roy Moore.”

    TrumpWison is REALLY stupid….

    Imagine if I was attacking Roy Moore…LOL

    “I call Moore a scumbag because he has not respect for the rule of law or the Constitution.

    He is not fit for office and should never have been allowed to run.

    If he wins, he wins. However, IF the allegations can be proven, a big IF, there is nothing anti-Democratic about kicking him out. Nada. Zilch.”

  380. Paul says:

    388. Not based on anything but wishful thinking 🙂

  381. DW says:

    389 – I haven’t had to get it yet. But I know some who have and say its great.

  382. jason says:

    Even expulsion, one SCOTUS case noted, might be unconstitutional if made on an improper basis (race, etc.).

    Zzzzzzz….

    The fact that AN expulsion can be ruled unconstitutional doesn’t mean expulsions are unconstitutional.

  383. jason says:

    Romney would be a great pick but I don’t see it happening. I would rather see him in the Senate.

  384. Mr.Vito says:

    “389 – I haven’t had to get it yet. But I know some who have and say its great.”

    Oh, okay. Thanks.

  385. jason says:

    Jason, the intellectual inferior of a Zika baby,”

    Basking the glory of mega points….

    I really should retire, I mean someone else should get a chance…

  386. Wes says:

    I don’t see how expulsion from the Senate can be unconstitutional under any circumstances. The Senate makes its own rules and can therefore remove any Member it wants.

  387. Mr.Vito says:

    “ROFL. Your favorite pollster calls your favorite news channel Fake News.”

    That’s expected. Every liberal will pick Fox. Conservatives have several to choose from. Fox got 40%… the others split 60%.

  388. DW says:

    Its an old issue, and largely forgotten, except that it has resurfaced today…back in 1991 Geraldo Rivera groped Bette Midler.

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist

  389. Paul says:

    There’s also the old video of Trump feeling up a drag queen.
    https://nypost.com/2016/10/15/watch-donald-trump-feel-up-rudy-giuliani-in-drag/

  390. Wes says:

    Democrats seemed to have saved Roy Moore because of their own influx of sexual peccadilloes.

    A week ago, Moore ws cruising to defeat. Now he seems to have regained his footing. As only revelations of sexual impropriety by public figures, mostly Democrats, have surfaced coincidentally with Moore’s surge, that would seem to be the reason.

    Thus, after much screaming and shouting, I guess Moore makes it into the Senate. Predictions of a double-digit victory are unlikely come true because the candidate’s name is Roy Moore. He nearly blew a statewide race in 2012 when literally every other Republican running statewide either ran unopposed or won by 20+ points.

    Moore may not like the Senate very much though. He has repeatedly personally attacked Mitch McConnell, who will control his committee assignments and is unlikely to reward him with anything but poor seatings.

  391. jason says:

    ROFL. Your favorite pollster calls your favorite news channel Fake News.”

    TrumpWilson is not only stupid, has a reading comprehension problem.

    Rasmussen didn’t call Fox fake news, it said 40% their poll’s respondent said Fox deserved the fake news trophy, meaning that 60% think the MSM deserves the trophy.

    Since the MSM fake news is fragmented it makes sense that FOX as the only non liberal site would be targeted by the liberals. CNN and MSNBC garnered 34% combined, but they have lots of competition.

  392. Mr.Vito says:

    401 Skit was probably written by Al Franken.

  393. jason says:

    Paul, let me know when Giuliani files a harassment suit against Trump.

  394. jason says:

    Also, I doubt Trump would go to bat for Moore, he didn’t even endorse him.

    Trump is not a social conservative, he has no interest in Moore’s rants, the only reason he is “supporting” him is because he needs his vote in the Senate.

    I bet privately he thinks Moore is a freaking idiot.

  395. DW says:

    402 – I advanced that theory yesterday…the growing list I keep posting is just a daily dripping, and it softens the angst against Moore–especially given that his accusers were bringing up things from over 35 years ago, while these others, Lauer, Rose, Franken, are much more current infractions.

  396. Mr.Vito says:

    Louis C.K. has to be on the list. That is an A-list comedian and writer, and he actually admitted it.

    Also, Brett Ratner, who is a major director and producer. Gal Gadot refused to to a Wonder Woman sequel if he was involved, and Warner Brothers parted ways with him.

  397. jason says:

    Vito I didn’t see your post before I pretty much posted the same thing.

  398. DW says:

    I hope the tax cut bill doesn’t pass too easily…would like to see Dems take to the floor and make a stand for Americans’ rights to pay high taxes.

  399. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer

  400. mnw says:

    Wes

    I read a persuasive argument that Jones’ wall-to-wall ads are having a real effect— driving up GOP GOTV. Maybe not the desired effect, but an effect nonetheless.

    I still think part of Moore’s rebound is a growing sense that voters were getting played— the DEM fingerprints all over the scandal began to be obvious. This was never about what Moore may or may not have done, it was always about putting Jones in the Senate.

    Apparently Jones is spending about $10 million. Anybody think that kind of money came from people outraged by what Moore allegedly did? It came from the same place Ossoff got his, & it seems to have been just about as effective.

  401. Mr.Vito says:

    Long-time actor/comedian Jeffrey Tambor has also announced he will not return to his emmy-winning role in ‘Transparent’ after sexual misconduct allegations.

  402. lisab says:

    “Calling lisab, a longtime poster here, a PROFANE name …”

    awwwww … thanks mnw …

    but honestly i was just trying to trigger him …

    it really is one of the best parts of the trump presidency. the dems are sooooooooooo butthurt about Hillary they are now killing off their hollywood buddies and potentially even franken

    they have not even begun to scratch the surface of sexual issues in hollywood, the newsrooms or congress

  403. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    I’ll add another to the list:

    Dennis Hastert (R): Convicted Child Molester presided as Speaker of the House for 8 years.

    Never caught until after leaving office and the trail of bribe money caught up to him.

    ************

    Republicans elevate Pedophiles to leadership. Democrats are cleaning house.

    Nice false equivalency you f*ck face. Nobody’s buying it except the slowly shrinking Trumpkin base.

  404. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    lisab can’t set me off. I called her a retard because she is a retard. MNW trying to white knight too is hilarious. Running off after being outed as a racist only to come back because he thinks Trump validates his racism.

    It’ll surprise all of you how quickly this country goes back to normal in 4 years. You’re already completely irrelevant. The only way a Republican will be able to win the presidency again is by running a Charlie Baker.

  405. lisab says:

    “ther posters correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t that always been regarded as a step too far, heretofore?”

    one time md said he was happy I was getting divorced …

    which I wasn’t, btw.

  406. Cash Cow TM says:

    9 accuse playwright Israel Horovitz of sex misconduct…

    But since I found that nugget hours earlier and got distracted by Walt forcing me to help dust and vacuum, I see DW already has added the Israeli to the list.
    ########################

  407. Wes says:

    Democrats kept the perpetrator of this incident in office for four decades after it happened:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

    Spare me the moral grandstanding, TIPW.

    Had what Hastert did been common knowledge during his time in office, then his speakership would have ended well before 1-3-2007.

  408. Cash Cow TM says:

    The more people that make the news of inappropriate behavior, the better for Moore–as many people will tire of this particular charge and it will lose its political death pizzaz. The AL voting public will see it as a ” well it seems everyone has skeleton in their closet on this, nobody is perfect, they are all flawed…”

    All these allegations of OTHERS rips the big sign out of the hands of the anti-Moore folks and neuters them.

  409. Cash Cow TM says:

    The more people that make the news of inappropriate behavior, the better for Moore–as many people will tire of this particular charge and it will lose its political death pizzaz. The AL voting public will see it as a ” well it seems everyone has skeleton in their closet on this, nobody is perfect, they are all flawed…”

    All these allegations of OTHERS rips the big sign out of the hands of the anti-Moore folks and neuters them.

  410. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian

  411. lisab says:

    i am so far ahead of all of you on points this thread …

  412. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “Four men allege sex misconduct by Mass. Senate president’s husband…”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    DW?

  413. DW says:

    its hard to keep up with this.

  414. lisab says:

    “Four men allege sex misconduct by Mass. Senate president’s husband…”
    ————————————-

    if they continue down this path

    the democratic party will be devastated.

    the gop will lose a few members too, but they have had to keep things secret for years, the dems thought they were immune so never kept this stuff very hidden

    the stories of what matt lauer did is just an example of complete recklessness. he exposed himself … to someone who works IN A NEWSROOM!

    people like leonardo dicaprio or George colony are likely dead men walking

  415. lisab says:

    ** george clooney

  416. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Bryon Hefner (D)

  417. Tina says:

    Ny tines story on tilerson is fake news.

  418. DW says:

    With the passing of Nabors, the primary Andy Griffith Show characters still living include ‘Opie’ played by Ron Howard, and Thelma Lou, played by Betty Lynn.

    All the rest are gone.

    Lesser character ‘Charlene’ the love interest of Ernest T. Bass is also still living.

  419. brucefdb says:

    430….hi Tina….75/25 that any NYT story is fake, but they still set the narrative daily. PravdaUSA.

    Judge Moore wins by double digits unless blacks show up in huge numbers.

  420. NYCmike says:

    I can’t post a link from Wonkette about Huck-Sanders….the more I watch Huck-Sanders, the more I dig her!

  421. jason says:

    Oh TrumpWilson wants to play that game?

    Is Ted Kennedy an “Icon” too?

  422. jason says:

    It’ll surprise all of you how quickly this country goes back to normal in 4 years.”

    You mean corrupt nanny state socialism is the normal?

    You could be right… from the mouths of idiots…

  423. Bitterlaw says:

    …but one thing we all can agree on is Jason is a great guy that is well loved at HHR, and has a place in our hearts for life that will never be subject to expulsion.

    If MD was still around, this devastating allegation could lead to Jason being expelled from the A-holes.

  424. Mr.Vito says:

    Ellie Walker, the druggist, is still alive.

  425. Tina says:

    Hi bruce, it does seem that Moore will win. Thanks to Allred who could not or would not validate the year book signature, which appeared fake.

  426. Tina says:

    Ugh, Nabors.

  427. Bitterlaw says:

    Gomer Pyle and Sgt. Carter were malingering bastards. How did they avoid going to Vietnam?

  428. Bitterlaw says:

    Welcome, bruce. GFY.

  429. DW says:

    437 – good catch…I never followed season one much as they used that first years to sort out the roles and the episodes are not as good. Ellie was only in season one.

  430. brucefdb says:

    Oh bitter….you NE guys and your anal obsessions.

    Cheers, pal.

  431. DW says:

    Probably the best Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. episodes are the ones where Gomer gets assigned to KP duty and makes a mess of the mess hall, and the ones where they are out on war games. In one, Gomer single-handedly captures a submarine, and in another he captures an entire platoon after escaping from the cell he was in after being captured.

  432. brucefdb says:

    439….the original story came from WaPo, no reason to EVER believe it unless you just want to.

    Stay safe kiddo.

  433. Mr.Vito says:

    443 Really? Just one season? I guess I’ve seen the black and white ones so many times, it just seems like more.

  434. Mr.Vito says:

    I think Ron Howard’s brother was the kid that never talked and always had a peanut butter sandwich all over his face.

  435. DW says:

    Also, one of Opie’s schoolmates is still living. Not sure, but I think Ron Howard’s younger brother is still living. He played the part of the kid who never spoke but wandered around Mayberry with a cowboy hat on, offering people a bite out of his sandwich.

  436. DW says:

    wow…Vito and I on same page there.

  437. Mr.Vito says:

    449 Yeah… that kid.

    Ron puts him in a lot of his movies in bit roles.

  438. Cash Cow TM says:

    Who was the town drunk who Andy and Barney would lock up and let him sleep it off?

  439. Cash Cow TM says:

    Hi, Mr. Vito…ol’sock ol’ pal!

    Any inappropriate sexual behavior to report from FL?

  440. Cash Cow TM says:

    AFL-CIO doing robocalls to urge people to contact Sen. Capito (R, WV) to vote against the tax reform bill.

    According to AFL-CIO, the tax reform bill would cause the loss of hundreds of thousand of jobs in U.S. as U.S. businesses would all flee the U.S.

    Wha…?

  441. Chicon says:

    452 – Otis, the town drunk.

  442. Mr.Vito says:

    “…who Andy and Barney would lock up…”

    He usually let himself in and out, though.

  443. Mr.Vito says:

    Walt, I haven’t heard anything from Florida that isn’t common knowledge, other than from everyday run-of-the-mill news.

  444. Paul says:

    You should add Lisab, the pro-sexual molestation teacher, to the list

  445. BayernFan says:

    Clint Howard was in waterboy and played the kid at the end of the Star Trek episode “The Corbomite Maneuver”.

  446. BayernFan says:

    He also played the pothead DJ in “That Thing you Do”.

  447. MichiganGuy says:

    mnw says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:21 pm
    MG
    I am NO grammar cop!
    ————————————–
    I wasn’t talking about you. I was talking about Wes. 🙂

  448. Cash Cow TM says:

    Obamacare marketing

    $100 MM federal government in 2016
    *****************************************
    $ 10 MM federal government budget in 2017
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    State of CA money spent for marketing Obamacare this year: $ 45 MM

    Read all about how they are wasting the money in CA….

    http://www.governing.com/topics/health-human-services/khn-california-obamacare-marketing.html?utm_term=On%20Obamacare%20Marketing%2C%20California%20Spends%20More%20Than%20the%20U.S.&utm_campaign=A%20First%20Among%20States%2C%20California%20Plugs%20the%20%27Carbon%20Loophole%27&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=email

  449. Cash Cow TM says:

    I never knew Opie had a little brother on the andy Griffith Show ,or Mayberry RFD or whatever.

    Is this fake news?

    I do recall a little kid who never said anything always offering people a bite of his sandwich….

  450. Charles says:

    Not sure what’s going on with tax reform. The corporate tax cut is a good thing. It’s too bad the Orange Azzhole is the POTUS to screw everything up.

  451. Charles says:

    The Orange Fukk couldn’t keep his mouth shut about the 401k deduction. That would have gone a long way to making individual tax cuts deeper than they are. Its too bad.

    Any other R president would have got more Marxists on board like W did in 2001 and 2003.

  452. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    458. “You should add Lisab, the pro-sexual molestation teacher, to the list.”

    So the only response you have to a woman pointed out how much the scandals are growing is to make a comment like that. You are a complete dirt bag.

  453. Charles says:

    Illegal mexican that killed Kate found not guilty – USA is dead.

  454. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    It’s simple. The Republicans could give a tax cut to everyone and get rid of some of the most unpopular tax hikes if they just cut the corporate tax rate to 25% instead of 20%.

    The koch media network immediately blasted them and said 20% or else. Trump threatened to say no as well too but we all know he will sign anything as he’s too unpopular and accomplished already; the orange turd is desperate.

    I’d source my stuff but there’s no point when it’s mob rule here and people are already sourcing Fake News sites.

    Do your own research if you have the ability to still learn and process information …

  455. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    It’s simple. The Republicans could give a tax cut to everyone and get rid of some of the most unpopular tax hikes if they just cut the corporate tax rate to 25% instead of 20%.

    The koch media network immediately blasted them and said 20% or else. Trump threatened to say no as well too but we all know he will sign anything as he’s too unpopular and accomplished already; the orange turd is desperate.

    I’d source my stuff but there’s no point when it’s mob rule here and people are already sourcing Fake News sites.

    Do your own research if you have the ability to still learn and process information …

  456. Tgca says:

    If it were not for the Orange Azzhole, we could be looking at tax increases under POTUS Hillary as no other credible GOP primary candidate would have won PA, WI, MI to break the blue wall, as Trump did when connected with those working class voters like no other GOP candidate since Reagan.

  457. Charles says:

    Rubio and Walker could have won, that’s not the point. The point is that the Orange Azzhole kept running his mouth and forced Congress to keep the 401k deduction. It was foolish and only hurts the tax bill in the end.

  458. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Yep, he won them 75-25. And the only thing he will ever accomplish legislatively is a cabinet full of billionaires and millionaires; a 15% corporate tax cut, the end of the AMT and Estate tax; and a bunch of bought-and-paid-for judges.

    And all it will cost is over $2 trillion dollars to the debt (if you account for the fact that nothing will expire) and hey, at least those judges say they are pro-life as they protect their fat cat interests first.

    If only the white working class had the brains to see a demagogue for what he is …

  459. Proud Obamacon says:

    Hello White Working Class morons, you voted for this doosh thinking he cared about you. All he wants is to take away your healthcare and raise your taxes so that him and his buddies get even richer.

    LOL

  460. Cash Cow TM says:

    Maybe in the 2016 POTUS election we dodged a bullet only to get hit by another.

  461. Diamond Jim says:

    Why the hell is the Senate parliamentarian someone nominated by Harry Reid? Why wasn’t she replaced by McConnell?

  462. Cash Cow TM says:

    Can anyone do the math on the Bali volcano and all the crap it is spewing into the atmosphere to cause global warming….

    How many cows/cow farts does that equate to?

    1 Bali volcano = to _?_ cows (as to global warming effect).

  463. Proud Obamacon says:

    Hillary, even though I was never a big supporter, would have let yall keep your healthcare and hospitals. The pussy grabber wants to take it away and shut down the one hospital yall got in your small towns – real winner. No you didn’t dodge a bullet only to get hit by another. There was one bullet and yall chose to get hit by it. LOL luckily, the resistance is saving your healthcare.

  464. Cash Cow TM says:

    Jeff Bezos is worth $100 BBBBB.

    I he was his own nation, where would that rank him in wealth of the nations?
    ################################
    Cow’s mind if full of questions tonight…

  465. Proud Obamacon says:

    Man, just let this bill go through. I’d love to see yall defend this tax bill during the mid-terms. So MR. GOP, why do you think it was such a good idea to raise taxes and take away healthcare from the poor so that your rich friends could get even richer? Bueller? LOL morons

  466. Cash Cow TM says:

    If a frog DID have wings,
    I postulate that at times
    still would bump its a$$.

    How about it?

  467. Charles says:

    Taxes aren’t going up for the poor, what an idiot. And as for healthcare, O-care is in a death spiral. GOP should have just repealed the damn thing. This “repeal AND REPLACE” bullchit was all the doing of the Orange Azzhole and dereailed it all.

  468. Mr.Vito says:

    As a reminder, Charles is Proud Obamacon.

    Just looked up plans on the Obamacare exchange, and it’s a total scam. Last year, my wife would have qualified for subsidies; after my wife was asked to work more hours, we do not.

    So basically my wife is punished for productivity… if she works less, she gets better health care and keeps more of her money.

  469. Mr.Vito says:

    From what I see, all Obamacare does is encourage people to be as poor as possible, and takes actual health care away from workers and substitutes it with bogus health insurance.

  470. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    476. “Can anyone do the math on the Bali volcano and all the crap it is spewing into the atmosphere to cause global warming….”

    Actually volcanoes contribute to global cooling. Here is an article from Vox with the headline.

    “Bali’s fiery volcano could end up temporarily cooling the entire planet,”

    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/11/28/16712234/bali-volcano-eruption-agung-climate

    About four decades ago, scientists were predicting the earth was entering a cooling phase, and we risked another ice age. There are again scientists who believe global cooling is going to happen soon.

  471. Charles says:

    Yeah I’m also Polaris, Tina, and basically everyone else. Stupid idiot.

    As for O-care, you’re right. Tt’s your classic entitlement program. No incentive to work, no incentive to add anything to society, but plenty of incentive to sit home and mooch off of me. Classic Marxism at work! And the Orange Azzhole has succeeded in actually making O-care popular. Unbelievable. Sickening, really.

  472. Mr.Vito says:

    “Yeah I’m also Polaris, Tina, and basically everyone else. Stupid idiot.”

    No, you are just Proud Obamacon. Nice try. (and the susyque who posts snopes type articles with the wrong names inserted on purpose).

  473. Charles says:

    OK genius, now I’m susyque too, ok.

    The earth heats, it cools, its been happening for millions of years. So what?

  474. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Have family in New Hampshire who recorded that in the year 1816, it snowed every month of the year. There was no summer. The eruption of Mount Tambora the year before is widely believed to be the cause.

    From Wikipedia:

    “The aberrations are now generally thought to have occurred because of the April 5–15, 1815, Mount Tambora volcanic eruption on the island of Sumbawa, Indonesia. The eruption had a volcanic explosivity index (VEI) ranking of 7, a colossal event that ejected at least 100 km3 (24 cu mi) of material. It was the world’s largest eruption since the Hatepe eruption in AD 180.

    Other large volcanic eruptions (with VEIs at least 4) around this time were:

    1809, The 1808/1809 mystery eruption (VEI 6) in the southwestern Pacific Ocean
    1812, La Soufrière on Saint Vincent in the Caribbean
    1812, Awu in the Sangihe Islands, Dutch East Indies
    1813, Suwanosejima in the Ryukyu Islands, Japan
    1814, Mayon in the Philippines
    These eruptions had built up a substantial amount of atmospheric dust. As is common after a massive volcanic eruption, temperatures fell worldwide because less sunlight passed through the stratosphere.

    According to a 2012 analysis by Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature, the 1815 Tambora eruption caused a temporary drop in the Earth’s average land temperature of about 1 °C. Smaller temperature drops were recorded from the 1812–1814 eruptions.”

  475. NYCmike says:

    Charlie is angry these days!

  476. Mr.Vito says:

    “Charlie is angry these days”

    Who knows for real? It’s just some weird game P.O. plays.

  477. Tgca says:

    471 I doubt Rubio or Walker could have won GE after primary. Walker failed miserably and made no connection in primary which was a big surprise. He just had no oomph!

    Rubio was exposed by Christie and never recovered after that ridicule. Also, Rubio lost his luster with many due to his Gang of 8 affiliation, and clearly was the establishment pick behind Jeb, and the establishment was not looking out for these guys that allowed Trump to break the blue wall so I disagree he could have done it.

  478. Charles says:

    You’re a special moron. In a one on one against the Thighness, both Rubio and Walker would have won. Even with the supposed weakness you mention, conservatives were coming out to stop the Marxist Thighmaster. They both would have won by even bigger margins than the Orange Azz.

  479. Charles says:

    In the GE polls during the primaries, while the Orange Azzface was behind, Rubio was well ahead of Thighmaster in states like CO, MN, and VA. So yes, he would have run well ahead of The Orange Mistake. Well well ahead.

    And then when in office, Democrats would have worked with Rubio on tax reform just like they did with W. Rubio would not be so toxic that we would be in danger of losing Congress next year. In fact, with Rubio we would be padding our margins. Sad to think of what could have been. Instead, now we have to sweat out Alabama. Alabama? Seriously?

  480. Tgca says:

    492 Moron?
    …and your momma’s a ho but let’s not let petty insults get in the way of your flawed analysis. Rubio and Walker could not consolidate conservatives in the primary to win but they would somehow turned them out in mass to overcome blue states working class that Trump energized. Look at all those conservatives that Rubio turned out in FL.

  481. Charles says:

    Then don’t post moronic things. Your latest post is even more moronic. Are you saying that the “blue states working class that Trump energized” would have voted for Thighmaster over Rubio? That is very moronic, moron.

  482. Charles says:

    Just like conservatives held their nose and voted for Agent Orange, those who found something missing with Rubio would have done the same. It was all to stop Thighness. If conservatives could hold their nose and vote for a guy after what he said on the Billy Bush tape, they would vote for anyone over Thighmaster.

    You are truly a moron.

  483. Tgca says:

    All I know is I expected a Trump win starting around Aug because I saw he was getting working class folks that Rubio could not get. Face it! Rubio crashed and burned. He wasn’t ready to win over the needed folks. Rehearsed talking points does not equal ready. Maybe next time but Christie ate him for lunch….along with a lot of other things I guess…and exposed Rubio. In addition, Ted outshined Rubio and the most conservative folks loved Ted.

  484. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Yes, exactly. And I say that as someone whose first choice was Walker.

    And I’m distinctly not “sweating out Alabama.” I think that one is a done deal.

  485. Tgca says:

    Get over it! Trump won. Rubio did not. He is rather quiet in the Senate now after being humiliated in the primary. Hate Trump all you want for Rubio failings but it does not matter. Trump did not cause Rubio to lose, blame Rubio for that…with a tad bit help from Christie. Trump is POTUS. Rubio is not.

    …now let’s discuss ABORTION.

  486. Diamond Jim says:

    D iamond Jim

  487. Tgca says:

    …or not. :-(. 501

  488. Charles says:

    Yeah Rubio had a bad debate, but you’re completely wrong that he would have lost in the GE. Having the Thighness on the Marxist ticket was enough to turn out conservatives, working class, etc. Hell Rubio would have gotten more Latinos and more of the middle as well.

    If Republicans can hold their nose and vote for Trump, they would have for Rubio too. And there would have been far far fewer holding their noses. There was a reason that Rubio was blowing out the thighness in polls of MN, VA, and CO and more blue/purple states during the primaries.

  489. mnw says:

    The folks who attended those gigantic Trump rallies were NOT HOLDING THEIR NOSES!

    No other GOP candidate I can remember has ever generated that level of enthusiasm.

  490. NYCmike says:

    I would have voted for Rubio.

    I know about 30 cops and firemen who would NOT have voted for Rubio against Hillary.

    They were the same type of voter Trump turned out in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

  491. BayernFan says:

    Rubio would have lost Romney style to Hillary. Working class whites would not have turned out the way they did. And among the ones that did vote, Hillary would have won more than she did vs. Trump. It would have been 2012 redux.

    Trump is the only GOP candidate that could have won, because he was the only one who appealed to working class voters. Unless a GOP candidate can do that, you’ll get Romney results.

    Think Reagan Democrats.

  492. Tgca says:

    498 mnw

    I was never against Walker. I was just surprised that he did not connect at all in the primaries. I had high hopes for him but he just made no connection.

  493. BayernFan says:

    I liked Rubio too, until his water gaffe. He is a good guy, but comes off as a little eager beaver HS debate captain. Very little gravitas. He is where he needs to be to make the most good.

  494. Tgca says:

    I think Rubio was hurt by 4 things

    He became the GOP establishment’s child …I guess Jeb was the daddy
    Christie humiliated him and made him look small and cracked the facade
    Cruz was a strong Latino alternative to him and much more liked by the primary conservative voters
    He was arrogant to think he would be handed either of the 2 top spots because he was Latino and he bought into the GOP is desperate for the Latino vote and must have one on the ticket.

  495. Tgca says:

    Soooo…who wants to discuss ABORTION?

  496. Polaris says:

    Looks like Moore might pull through.

  497. mnw says:

    Tgca

    I agree—I was surprised Walker didn’t connect also. Somehow he just wasn’t the right man for the hour.

    The French call a phenomenon like Trump “force majeur,” I think

  498. Redmen4ever says:

    The corporate tax cut: The CBO scores the bill on a static assumption; that is, that there will be no supply-side response. Hence, the appearance of a loss of revenue. However, the reduction in the corporate tax rate will not cost the Treasury a cent. It will pay for itself in reduced loss of business overseas.

    Obama believed so much in a supply-side response that he said he would go along with a cut in the corporate tax rate as long as the increase in revenue the cut produced was used for jobs programs. Check it out:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-to-propose-lowering-corporate-tax-rate-to-28-percent/2012/02/22/gIQA1sjdSR_story.html?utm_term=.a763c4afc166

  499. Tgca says:

    511

    Is this the real Polaris or is it the fake Polaris?

    For some reason, Polaris seems to be the most stolen identity in HHR.

    If it’s the real Polaris…howdy…long time
    If it’s the fake Polaris…let’s discuss ABORTION since the real Polaris had no such interest.

  500. DW says:

    That was not the real Polaris. The Real Polaris always signed his posts:

    –Polaris

  501. Tina says:

    Thankfulky, her thighness was stopped. Now, she is working Costco.

  502. Paul says:

    Feeling a bit hopeful that the tax bill crashes.

  503. Paul says:

    Whatever happened to Polaris? Has he been gone for several years now?

  504. Tina says:

    Pass the bong, coree.

  505. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    “President Trump over the summer repeatedly urged senior Senate Republicans, including the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, to end the panel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, according to a half dozen lawmakers and aides. Mr. Trump’s requests were a highly unusual intervention from a president into a legislative inquiry involving his family and close aides.

    “Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, the intelligence committee chairman, said in an interview this week that Mr. Trump told him that he was eager to see an investigation that has overshadowed much of the first year of his presidency come to an end.”

    This isn’t some anonymously sourced leak. Senator Burr stated on the record with the Times said that Trump pressured the senate to end the Russian Inquiry. Ladies and gentlemen, we have obstruction.

    Looks like Repubs will pass this sh*t sandwich handout to the Kochs and Mercers which blue-state republicans like Tina will help pay for (ROFLMAO again at that). Then they will probably give into Mueller’s findings and impeach/blame Trump.

    Fun times.

  506. Bitterlaw says:

    We can all play the What If game. I know at least 10 women, including my wife, who would have voted for Rubio over Hillary. Most left the top race blank. Some voted for Hillary because they hated Trump more.

  507. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW,

    Follow up on this…

    “Vice Media fired three employees on Thursday amid a probe into sexual harassment and improper workplace conduct, according to a memo obtained by CNNMoney.
    Vice did not name the employees.”

  508. Wes says:

    There were two primary reasons Trump beat Hillary:

    1) Hillary assumed she had the race won and went on autopilot the last few weeks.

    2) Hillary was the subject of an FBI investigation at various points during the campaign.

    Those were critical factors in her loss. They wouldn’t have changed because Rubio was the nominee.

    Ergo, I in no way buy the idea that Trump alone vould beat Hillary.

    Let’s not forget Trump, while successful, still lost the popular vote and hurt Republicans in several states. It’s not as if he had some unalloyed victory.

  509. Paul says:

    “still lost the popular vote and hurt Republicans in several states. ”

    That was only because of illegals voting 🙂

  510. Tgca says:

    Had the MSM been even somewhat unbiased, Trump would have not had the constant negative attention and coordinated effort to destroy him as well, and that translates into lost votes. When studies show the press self-proclaims they are Dems by roughly 90% or more, it’s hard to seriously believe they’re unbiased and that does not reflect in their coverage.

    So I think Clinton’s email issue was no different than the MSM efforts to coordinate Trumps downfall at every turn, whether deserved or not.

  511. BayernFan says:

    the only Republicans he “hurt” were those who tried to distance themselves from him…eg Ayotte and the Nevada candidate. Kirk, too but he would have lost big anyway.

  512. Wes says:

    The Gabby Giffords for Senate Chairman seems to have forgotten there were elections for office other than Senate in several states such as NV and CO Trump lost, the lion’s share of which Democrats won. Let’s not let the truth get in the way of the O’Donnell fanboy’s Trump-is-God narrative though.

  513. JC says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    November 30, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    As a reminder, Charles is Proud Obamacon.

    Just looked up plans on the Obamacare exchange, and it’s a total scam. Last year, my wife would have qualified for subsidies; after my wife was asked to work more hours, we do not.

    So basically my wife is punished for productivity… if she works less, she gets better health care and keeps more of her money.
    ——————-

    That’s pretty much the modus operandi of socialism. Whether intentional or not, it punishes success and ‘rewards’ failure, thus creating an incentive for people to make decisions that keep them steeped in poverty (and thus dependent on the ruling class).

    Strong economies run on optimism. Socialism is pessimism actualized.

  514. Cash Cow TM says:

    Punching out for tonight.
    Off to bed.

    Night gang.

  515. Tina says:

    Andrew C. McCarthy
    Andrew C. McCarthy
    @AndrewCMcCarthy
    It is a federal felony, up to 10 yrs’ imprisonment, to be an illegal alien in possession of firearm (18 USC secs.922(g), 924). DOJ should indict Zarate if haven’t already. Sentence consecutive to today’s state gun conviction could keep him in prison 13 yrs or so.
    8:20 PM · Nov 30, 2017

    Yes, they should seize him asap.

  516. lisab says:

    If it were not for the Orange Azzhole, we could be looking at tax increases under POTUS Hillary
    ——————————-

    the justification for increasing taxes a lot

    is that taxes were much higher than today through the 1960’s

    a period when the united states was booming.

    the above is not an endorsement of high taxes, it is just factual. it is also true that much of europe, japan and china were completely destroyed in ww2 so the usa had very little competition

  517. lisab says:

    So basically my wife is punished for productivity… if she works less, she gets better health care and keeps more of her money.
    ——————————–

    it is actually better for most couples to not marry but live together. a stay at home mom is eligible for lots of welfare. a married couple is not.

  518. lisab says:

    Those were critical factors in her loss. They wouldn’t have changed because Rubio was the nominee.
    ——————————————–

    rubio probably would have lost. he came across as weak and that was before he was targeted by the dems.

    remember trump had several hundred million dollars spen against him, probably moor if you consider the media went against him for free.

    considering rubio buckled in 30 seconds against christie, it is very likely he would not have survived the daily bashing that trump barely survived.

  519. MichiganGuy says:

    Trump calls Kate Steinle verdict ‘disgraceful,’ says ‘no wonder’ people are ‘angry with illegal immigration’

    The 5-time deported illegal alien who murdered her gets to live after robbing her of life.

    Flood Congress with calls tomorrow to #BuildTheWall.

    202-224-3121

    https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/936433658616881152

  520. MichiganGuy says:

    In 2015, Garcia Zarate served time in a federal prison for his latest illegal entry into the U.S. Officials then sent him to San Francisco, where he was wanted on an old warrant for a drug charge.
    But local prosecutors decided they didn’t want to pursue the case. Rather than send Garcia Zarate back to the federal government for deportation, however, he was released into the community under the local sanctuary policy.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/30/jose-garcia-zarate-not-guilty-homicide-charges-kat/

  521. lisab says:

    i was talking to a historian once who said something that i think is relevant to rubio (or walker etc) being potentially better than trump/

    the historian was talking and someone asked about alternative history — i forget what exactly, but something along the lines of “what if the greeks had adopted persian tactics could they have beaten the romans?” although, it could have been about any time period, i just don’t recall.

    the historian answered very wisely i thought. he said that armies are built to fight specific armies, so had the greels, or whoever, adopted different tactics, the romans would have responded.

    likewise, had the nominee been rubio, the hillary campaign would have responded appropriately and unleashed the dogs of war on rubio.

    saying that, in retrospect, the rubio of the primaries would have easily beaten hillary ignores the enormous resources that would have been spent on destroying him.

    yes, had hillary not attacked rubio, he might have won, but after $250 million to $500 billion in negative publicity? i doubt rubio would have held up

  522. Tina says:

    None of the other candidates would or could pull off Debate 2and being chucked into the medi van.

  523. Tina says:

    Debate 2

    Thighness collapsing on 9/11

    Her failure to amswer the 3am call in Benghazi. She was passed out.

    Those impacted her.

  524. MichiganGuy says:

    Cop Accuser Implodes in Breitbart Interview, Admits to Making Unsupported Claims About Roy Moore – Breitbart

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/30/cop-accuser-breitbart-interview-unsupported-claims-moore/amp/

  525. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Winning with Conservative Judges!!
    Kyle Duncan will be confirmed after yesterday’s Committee hearing.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/kyle-duncan-addresses-sen-kennedys-concern.php

  526. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Winning with Conservative Judges–Part II:
    Al Franken gets neutered in the Senate Judiciary hearing vis-a-vis Minnesota SCOTUS Judge Stras, whom he has tried to block.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/the-new-al-franken-part-two.php

  527. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    People here in my part of No. Carolina are furious about the Kate Steinle verdict. Their fury is directed at not only the murderer, but at CA and Frisco. No tears would be shed if CA were to secede from the Union, which they can vote to do next year.
    It could big-time backfire on Liberals because the Southern Border Wall will now probably be funded and constructed. Let’s call it Kate’s Safety and Beautiful Wall”!

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/11/30/jury-reaches-verdict-in-steinle-murder-trial/

  528. Phil says:

    Agree that this verdict will backfire badly for the open borders crowd. That attorney proclaiming this a victory for immigrants is clueless.

    At the very least how was that at a minimum not involuntary manslaughter?

    California can go to hell.

  529. jason says:

    Gloria Steinem says she would still give Clinton a pass.

    Liberals are consistent, the ends always justify the means.

  530. DW says:

    523…538

    This is right. Hillary was a terrible candidate. The hubris she displayed right up to the end…

    …thinking she didn’t need to bother having a message, just saying she wasn’t Trump.

    …never taking seriously the way she endangered the country as SoS.

    …scheduling the victory party in a hall with a glass ceiling.

    …deciding to cancel the celebratory fireworks right at the end, just so she wouldn’t jinx it.

    …the MI field office for Clinton had called IA offices in the last day of the campaign urging them to abandon IA and come up to MI to help them…so the GOTV team in IA headed to MI but when Clinton found out about it, ordered them to turn around and go back to IA because they didn’t want to look weak.

    …ending her campaign in Philly where she already had 110% of the vote instead of going somewhere else where she might actually move a needle.

    Trump was NOT the only candidate who would have beaten her. Voters were desperate to find any excuse to not have to vote for her. I grant that the map might have looked different for different candidates (Rubio would have won CO and NV) but the strongest asset any GOP candidate had running against Hillary is they weren’t her. She was toxic.

  531. jason says:

    Al Franken gets neutered”

    I second the motion.

    Also, did you see the Bosnian war criminal pulled out a bottle of poison at his sentencing and drank it?

    If this catches on it could save a lot of money with incarceration expenses.

  532. DW says:

    546 – I saw that. Very interesting…my first thought was…how did he GET the bottle of poison? Maybe at our jails that keep rapists, murderers, etc., we should start leaving bottles of poison sitting around and see what happens.

  533. DW says:

    I didn’t read the story…what was the Bosnian War criminal guilty of?

  534. DW says:

    Its been a busy week…not sure who gets added next:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Bryon Hefner (D)

  535. jason says:

    I still think Rubio would have beaten her too, but with a narrower path and without carrying MI, PA and WI.

    Soccer Moron and others are correct that Rubio would probably not have won enough of the blue collar vote to win those states.

    However, Rubio would have been more competitive than Trump in NH, CO, NV which along with FL and OH would have given him 272 EV’s. Even NM might have been in play with Rubio.

  536. jason says:

    what was the Bosnian War criminal guilty of?”

    War crimes.

  537. jason says:

    Ok that was joke.

    “Praljak, a former assistant defense minister of Croatia and commander of the Croatian Defense Council, was appealing a jail term of 20 years in prison.
    He was one of six former Bosnian Croat leaders found guilty of crimes against humanity and war crimes, including the rape and murder of Bosnian Muslims, in 2013.”

  538. Phil says:

    Rubio would have been more competitive in Va as well. Not sure he would have carried it, however.

  539. jason says:

    Flynn charged with making false statement to FBI.

    The volcano has once again spewed a pebble.

  540. jason says:

    This has nothing to do with collusion during the campaign.

  541. Mr.Vito says:

    “The revelation last year of an unorthodox tarmac meeting between former President Bill Clinton and then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch set off a frenzied scramble at the FBI to track down the source, newly released documents show.

    Conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, which on Thursday released 29 pages of FBI emails related to the 2016 meeting, said the messages show officials were more concerned about the leak than the substance of the report.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/01/fbi-account-clinton-lynch-tarmac-meeting-released-by-watchdog-group.html

    Apparently the FBI cared about leaks once.

  542. jason says:

    Mueller has nothing on Trump, its more obvious every day.

  543. jason says:

    Let’s see if Wobbie can get excited about this…even though it happened what, weeks AFTER the election.

  544. Paul says:

    Likely the plea is part of a wider deal to provide information to the investigation.

  545. DW says:

    553 – yeah, I think Rubio might have taken VA. He finished a strong second in the GOP primary, would have done much better than Trump did in the critical areas of Northern VA.

  546. DW says:

    Trump up to 44% in Rasmussen today

  547. mnw says:

    Tina

    “they should snap up the illegal alien” on a federal charge of illegal alien in possession of a firearm

    The federal Guidelines range for that offense, which is what the judges actually look to (& NOT to the statutory maximum) is 15-21 months appx, depending on his criminal history in the U.S. (only convictions count)

    So it’s hardly like locking him up & throwing away the key.

  548. mnw says:

    DW

    Good news. Kind of surprising considering the river of sewage he’s had to deal with lately.

  549. Trump says:

    ” which along with FL and OH would have given him 272 EV’s”

    Stupid alt-history, as always.

    Rubio would never have won Ohio. Voters are not enamored with amnesty.

  550. Trump says:

    “553 – yeah, I think Rubio might have taken VA. He finished a strong second in the GOP primary, would have done much better than Trump did in the critical areas of Northern VA.”

    Where do you come up with this cra*? Didn’t you say the same thing about the Gillespie disaster?

  551. DW says:

    The political environment was quite a bit different in Nov 2017 in VA than it was in Nov 2016. The very people in NOVA who would have voted for Rubio over Hillary, but voted Hillary over Trump came out in droves to vote for Northam as a proxy vote against Trump.

  552. mnw says:

    Three things the world will not believe although they are true:

    1) Sessions is a good AG.

    2) Tillerson is a good SoS.

    3) Breitbart is a first-rate site for investigative journalism.

  553. Chicon says:

    So, Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI about post-election meeting with the Russian ambassador. Post-election.

    Robbie to appear momentarily.

  554. Trump says:

    Occam’s Razor.

    GOP is not appealing in NOVA, regardless of candidate.

  555. Trump says:

    And NOVA dominates statewide VA.

    Period.

  556. Todd McCain says:

    Mueller again drops a dud; what a joke.

    Lying to FBI after the election…that is ALL that could come up with?

  557. Trump says:

    Trump is the cleanest candidate and president, it seems.

    2+ years of non-stop investigations, by global media as well as top government intelligence apparatus.

    Yields nothing but a decade old tape with crude remarks.

  558. mnw says:

    Todd

    I hate to admit this, REALLY hate it, but post 559 is probably right.

  559. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #571
    Yes, another Scooter Libby-type crime. Also,I read that as part of the plea, Mueller will not indict Flynn again in the future. Also, Flynn’s son will skate.
    So,who committed a more serios crime, Flynn or David Patreus during the Obama tenure? My vote,and its not close, is Patreus.

  560. Chicon says:

    Mnw – it is almost certainly a deal for information, whatever it is that Flynn has. But the charge is still informative – if there was a criminal act by Flynn prior to the election it would have been charged, imo. I’m surprised there was nothing on his dealings as a foreign lobbyists/agent.

  561. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #559 & 574
    I get the opposite vibes. Other than the Paul Manafort stuff, the investigation is winding down.

  562. DW says:

    A nearly 5.0 earthquake just struck north of Tokyo Japan.

  563. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #577
    Add: Also, in the Plea Agreement, did Mueller use the same language regarding “cooperation” as he did in the Popoudopolos plea? Pretty telling if he did not.

  564. Todd McCain says:

    BREAKING: GOP HAS THE VOTES IN SENATE

  565. jason says:

    Seems like Roy Moore, win or lose, has done a huge public service by getting a lot of liberals to get fired, to resign or into trouble.

  566. jason says:

    Rubio would never have won Ohio. Voters are not enamored with amnesty.”

    Yeah, he would have won Ohio, but not by 500k votes like Trump did.

    That margin shows just about any R would have won Ohio.

    WI, PA and MI had much smaller margins, Rubio would not have won any of them.

  567. mnw says:

    You wanna see some seriously anal retentive grammar police? Check out RRH!

    RRH Moderator: “Stop capitalizing random words!”

  568. jason says:

    oters are not enamored with amnesty”

    Actually, EVERY candidate, including Trump, advocated for some type of legalization of illegals.

    Why? Because most voters do support it.

  569. Todd McCain says:

    Maybe so, but still believe strongly the likelihood of this probe getting to Trump directly is very low.

  570. jason says:

    I doubt Flynn is going to provide anything about Trump or collusion.

    Most likely it was a plea deal regarding his involvement in the Turkish deal and other disclosure failures.

    In other words to avoid more charges, or indictment of his son, he copped to lying to the FBI after the election

  571. mnw says:

    MO Senate:

    I was delighted to see Trump appear with, & endorse, MO AG Josh Hawley yesterday in St. Charles, MO. Hawley will finally bring an end to the Sky Queen saga, I think.

    As near as I can figure out from local news coverage, Trump showed up for no apparent reason, apparently said nothing, and the YUUGE NEWS was 100 anti-Trump protesters!

  572. jason says:

    Btw, remember Flynn was fired for exactly what he was charged with, lying to Pence about his contacts with the Russian Ambassador, so really there is nothing new here.

  573. jason says:

    ’m surprised there was nothing on his dealings as a foreign lobbyists/agent.”

    I think that was the plea arrangement.

    Mueller knows that would have been a messy trial.

    Charge him with one false statement charge and be done with it.

  574. jason says:

    eah, I think Rubio might have taken VA. He finished a strong second in the GOP primary, would have done much better than Trump did in the critical areas of Northern VA.”

    This is correct, and Soccer Moron is very wrong again.

    Rubio would have performed much better than Trump in NOVA.

    But since in the end Hillary won by 5, its very possible Rubio would not have been able to overcome that big a gap, especially since Trump performed better than Rubio would have had in other areas of VA.

    Still, it would have been closer.

  575. jason says:

    Mueller again drops a dud; what a joke.

    Lying to FBI after the election…that is ALL that could come up with?”

    I guess he has to justify all the money he is spending.

  576. mnw says:

    The fact that the tax deal hinges now (apparently) on 2 lame duck mavericks + Susan Collins kind of puts the importance of the AL Senate seat in stark relief.

  577. janz says:

    Dow suddenly dropped when ABC news broke that Flynn was going to testify against trump.

  578. janz says:

    Susan Collins always seems to put a burr under most policy reforms.

  579. janz says:

    It seems that Mueller is trying to get Trump at any cost, on any charge.

  580. janz says:

    Supposedly Flynn is willing to testify that Trump encouraged him to contact the Russians. Ahhhhhhh…..

  581. Robbie says:

    I’ve been a cruise for the last 10 days, but the report filed by Brian Ross to ABC about what Flynn will testify to is a bombshell, IF ACCURATE.

  582. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 1, 2017 at 11:07 am
    Mueller again drops a dud; what a joke.
    Lying to FBI after the election…that is ALL that could come up with?”
    I guess he has to justify all the money he is spending.

    – I see Jason Fraud is flacking for Trump again.

    Maybe HHR’s biggest fraud is unaware on how plea deals work, but cooperating witnesses almost always get lesser charges once they agree to testify.

    According to the Washington Post, one part of the plea arrangement was Flynn’s son would not be indicted.

    I think Jason’s red MAGA dunce cap is on too tight, but that still doesn’t explain why he’s such a fraud.

  583. janz says:

    They are now implying a constitutional crisis at hand – a supposed breach of the Logan Act and some kind of obstruction. Jeez…..

  584. Phil says:

    “According to the Washington Post”

    Yep, Robbie is back.

  585. Todd McCain says:

    Yep, like clock-work. Bad news comes, Robbie is back in a flash.

  586. jason says:

    According to the Washington Post, ”

    LOL

    I knew Wobbie would be here like a maggot attracted to roadkill.

  587. jason says:

    Flynn was directed to “talk to Russians” by Trump?

    What is the problem with that exactly?

  588. Todd McCain says:

    So the plea agreement says it was TRUMP Transition officials directing him to contact Russian officials during the transition….NOT TRUMP HIMSELF.

    Again, these charges related to the transition, not during the campaign.

  589. janz says:

    I’ve stayed out of Robbie & HHR battles. However, the speed of Robbie’s return, as the hammer comes down on Flynn, possibly extending over to the president, is no coincidence. Why the glee over troubling curcumstamces!

  590. jason says:

    tired Lt. Gen Michael Flynn has promised “full cooperation” in the special counsel’s Russia investigation and, according to a confidant, and is prepared to testify that Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians, initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria.”

    So what happened to the collusion against Hillary?

  591. DW says:

    Notice Robbie just happened to be on a cruise and got back just in time to post about Flynn.

  592. jason says:

    Janz, Wobbie, like the MSM, wants to overturn the results of the election in any manner possible.

    Still pining for Jeb.

  593. Todd McCain says:

    What is wrong with that exactly?

    Where is the collusion? This happened during the transition…..

  594. janz says:

    Supposedly Lindsey Graham has reported they have 50 votes for the tax bill passage. We’re see….

    Sleezy Adam Schief is reappearing with his partisan knife in hand. I can’t stand that guy!

  595. janz says:

    Jason, Robbie’s slanted POV is beyond obvious. Is he a Dem?

  596. Transparent Dem Troll says:

    Robbie works for the DNC troll center. He was fired a few weeks ago due to allegations, but we rehired him after learning that Al Franken was going to get to stay in the senate.

    The cruise was part of the severance package.

  597. janz says:

    Flynn was being squeezed financially by Mueller’s despicable legal team – was thinking about selling his house to pay the bills. That’s how Dems operate, thru threats and intimidation.

  598. janz says:

    #612 – you add levity to a troubling day.

  599. Tgca says:

    Flynn is not a credible witness at this point. He was fired because he lied. He has agreed to plead guilty to lying to the FBI. It would appear to most he would say anything at this point to keep him and his son from further criminal prosecution. It doesn’t mean he does not have useful information, but he is already a proven liar so it greatly weakens his credibility.

    So we are back to square 1. This is simply MSM and Trump haters trying to spin. Unless, there is REAL criminal activity, nothing here still and the pressure is on Mueller and his own shortcomings in this case.

  600. mnw says:

    I am much more interested in the tax bill vote than the drizzly Russia baloney.

    My blood freezes every time I read the word “delay.”

  601. janz says:

    Jason made a good point about HRC in #606. Hillary always seems to skate from far more serious transgressions and allegations, while others – R’s – are caught in petty traps.

  602. Phil says:

    Relax, janz. “Troubling”? Hardly.

    Brian Ross and ABC? Come on.

  603. Phil says:

    Following the tax vote.

    Russia?

    zzzzzzzzzzz

  604. Tgca says:

    617

    It’s partly due to her gender I believe. There is a need to protect her because she was the 1st woman and “most qualified person ever to run for POTUS.”

  605. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Good thing we have a squad of expert lawyers here at hedgehog to debunk Mueller lol.

    Among all the pro-trump people you have maybe one high school diploma and plenty of defensive driving certificates.

    Truly a legal dream team.

    **************

    Flynn Flipped. Game over Trumpski’s.

  606. janz says:

    The Russian balony continues to put a cloud over the presidency. Like one columnist said today, Trump’s presidency is far better than his Twitter feed. Consequently, those who want him gone will get much worse as a replacement, IMO.

  607. DW says:

    Notice all the trolls were nowhere to be found when it came out a while back there was a connection between Hillary and the dossier.

  608. Todd McCain says:

    So I can just conceptualize this:

    Flynn is going to testify that Trump ordered him not to collude against HRC, but to work with Russia better to defeat ISIS in Syria…..

    If that is correct, that just made my day.

  609. janz says:

    Phil, all this does is add more drama and uncertainty, at a time where there are glimmers of better economics ahead of us. That’s troubling to me. However, I’m not wringing my hands over it.

  610. Phil says:

    Flynn pled guilty to a process crime.

    What happened to collusion with Russia to influence the election?

    There wasn’t any.

    Read Flynn’s statement to the court today.

    ….and Scarborough off the rails again today about the 25th amendment and removal from office for “mental reasons”

    Unhinged.

  611. mnw says:

    Flake is now reportedly a yes. I think that would be 50, unless one of them is lying to McConnell.

  612. janz says:

    Todd, I think the issue was the UN’s vote against Israel and their building of settlements. Whether or not Trump tried to interfer with the passage of the vote against Israel, it nevertheless passed. IOW, nothing was effected by any supposed interference.

  613. Todd McCain says:

    McConnell just stated he has it.

  614. Phil says:

    The tax bill is passing today.

    Nothing else of significance has happened today. Brian Ross having a wet dream. The same guy who breathlessly reported the Colorado theater shooter’s name had appeared on a tea party list almost immediately after the shooting.

    Turned out this wasn’t the same guy, but Ross couldn’t help himself. He had an agenda to push.

    You can’t stop the media from doing what they do. This is a nothing burger and it will be more and more clear as time passes.

    Meantime, enjoy the tax cut legislation passage.

  615. jason says:

    Trump could pardon Flynn for the lying to FBI thing.

    The uproar by the MSM would be epic…

  616. jason says:

    Right, while Wobbie is fixated on Flynn, let’s pass the tax bill and do something for the country.

    And remember, according to Wobbie, he doesn’t believe in the collusion theory anyway he just doesn’t think Trump has accomplished enough.

  617. Phil says:

    Also, listened to Jonathon Turley, no Trump friend, go into detail regarding the Flynn plea. Short story – nothing to see here.

  618. janz says:

    I think SALT deductions were reinstated in order to get Collins vote.

  619. janz says:

    That’s encouraging regarding Turkey’s take on Flynn.

  620. jason says:

    Collins a yes.

  621. janz says:

    Turley. My tablet has a hard time with that one, wanting to insert turkey instead.

  622. jason says:

    Of course Flynn could be bluffing so he can get a pardon. Make it look like he going to deliver a bombshell to get a promise of a pardon later. I don’t know who would deliver that promise however, all of Flynn’s phones are certain to be bugged.

  623. jason says:

    It would be nice if they could get the 52 votes.

  624. Tgca says:

    632

    I agree with my esteemed and well respected colleague Jason.

    Not to minimize regulation requirements but Flynn got busted about lying about filing paperwork. Most are not even prosecuted for paperwork violations but he lied about it so it’s not a constitutional crisis here. I believe most Americans understand that and roll there eyes at this conviction.

  625. Todd McCain says:

    The Salt deduction for 10K is huge.

    I think they get 51; Corker is being a d*ck.

  626. Paul says:

    Sounds like Flynn is cooperating and spilling the beans on pizzagate.

  627. Phil says:

    Corker IS a dick.

  628. BRENT says:

    NOTHING BURGER,MUELLERS GOT NOTHING JUST TRYING TO GET CONVICTION TO COVER HIS WASTED COST’S NOW

  629. DW says:

    oh the Salt deduction is back in? Wasn’t the fact that it was taken out the one big downer on the bill?

  630. Tgca says:

    Alan Dershowitz is correct on Flynn. An admitted liar is going to be a credible witness? Any lawyer can easily turn this around by arguing he cut a deal and it’s in his best interest to tell more lies to save himself and his kid. That’s why they did not go after him on other charges they had.

    …and again, telling someone to have contact with Russia is not illegal unless it involved bribes. The only place that seems to exist right now is with the Clinton/DNC dossier where a foreign spy was paid with Dem campaign money to work with other foreign spies to dig up dirt on Trump that turned out not to be credible.

  631. Paul says:

    Someone in the white house was quoted that it was “very bad, bad, bad news.” I’m assuming that is Trump’s words being passed along.

  632. DW says:

    George W Bush didn’t just ‘talk to Russia,’ he actually had Putin out to his ranch in Texas. Putin actually rode in Bush’s pickup truck. They did stop short of having Putin go duck hunting with Cheney though.

    Furthermore, Obama talked to Russia. So did Bill Clinton. So did George H. W. Bush. So did Reagan.

    Even Abe Lincoln’s SoS William Seward talked to Russia. He went so far as to collude with Russia in a cash for real-estate deal–using TAXPAYER dollars!! Horrors!!

  633. NYCmike says:

    “I’ve been a cruise for the last 10 days, but the report filed by Brian Ross to ABC about what Flynn will testify to is a bombshell, IF ACCURATE.”

    -Working late this week, so was listening to the news on the way in and heard this “BOMBSHELL” whild driving……I laughed to myself, and thought “Robbie will be by HHR today…it will be good to know he is ok.”

    🙂

  634. DW says:

    “cash for real-estate deal”

    should have said:

    “cash for real-estate scheme”

  635. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    If only the opinions non-college educated white men determined legal outcomes in this country …

    Trump wouldn’t be headed to impeachment and jail.

    But they don’t.

  636. Redmen4ever says:

    I’m waiting on Senator Menendez arriving to cast his vote, to see if he’s wearing his ankle bracelet.

  637. DW says:

    anybody know when the vote starts?

  638. DW says:

    Even the liberal site Red Racing Horses is saying this Flynn thing is a burger with no meat.

  639. DW says:

    Do I add Blake Farenthold (R) to the list?

    He used taxpayer dollars to settle a claim against him by a female staffer.

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Bryon Hefner (D)

  640. Chicon says:

    654 – soon as Brian Ross sez ok.

  641. Tgca says:

    Why ain’t these fellas on the list

    Richard Dreyfuss
    Dustin Hoffman
    Jeremy Piven
    Steven Seagal
    George Takei

  642. Paul says:

    Looking forward to the McCain bait and switch.

  643. DW says:

    658 – the list is of current accusations in the media as the result of the recent eruption of accusations. Bill Clinton is on list because the old stuff recently got new attention.

  644. DW says:

    I guess Takei is recent though.

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    George Takei (D) – Actor

  645. Tgca says:

    The other 4 guys in 658 are recent accusations as well, though the act occurred years ago. Richard and Dustin recently apologized. Not sure if the other two did.

  646. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    627. “Flynn pled guilty to a process crime. What happened to collusion with Russia to influence the election?”

    Wondered myself. He plead guilty to something he was fired from the Trump Administration for almost a year ago.

    Am not hardly seeing any smoke, let alone fire.

  647. jason says:

    And under the brilliant investigation result category…after war criminal drinks from bottle and dies…

    “A deadly chemical was in the container from which a Croat war criminal drank shortly before dying, a Dutch prosecutor said Thursday, as an independent investigation into the dramatic death of Slobodan Praljak moved forward.

    “There was a preliminary test of the substance in the container and all I can say for now is that there was a chemical substance in that container that can cause death,” Prosecutor Marilyn Fikenscher told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.”

    And they determined all this within 24 hours..amazing.

  648. jason says:

    I think this same prosecutor once concluded, after a man jumped off a cliff and died, that the deceased fell from a height that could cause death.

  649. NYCmike says:

    The DEVIL!

  650. jason says:

    Looking forward to the McCain bait and switch.”

    Poor Paul Troll…. hanging on to his last hope.

    It must be sad to be that much of a bitter loser.

  651. DW says:

    663 – its a pile of leaves. Yet Dems and media see a roaring blaze where there nothing even smoking.

    664 – LOL…yeah, the first clue was the guy keeled over after drinking it. Apparently his final words were ‘I have taken poison’–another clue!

  652. jason says:

    I’m waiting on Senator Menendez arriving to cast his vote, to see if he’s wearing his ankle bracelet.”

    LOL

  653. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer

  654. mnw says:

    If I were McConnell & I really had 50 votes for sure, the vote would be going on NOW.

  655. jason says:

    “Someone in the white house was quoted that it was “very bad, bad, bad news.”

    Let me guess, it was the Bad News Bears.

    “Someone in the WH” is great…..maybe it was Trump’s chef afraid Pence doesn’t like the same food.

  656. jason says:

    I think he now trying to get to 52 so it looks unanimous.

  657. jason says:

    Dow is only 91 pts down now, was down 300 earlier.

    If the vote happens before 4 it will go back to positive territory.

  658. Chicon says:

    I suspect Robbie’s earlier posts were fake Robbie.

  659. Paul says:

    Is Pence on his way in for the vote?

  660. jason says:

    We now have an explanation for Paul’s and PeteWilson’s stupidity…

    It’s just a wiring problem.

    “A Smarter Person’s Brain Is Simply Wired Better, Study Finds”

  661. DW says:

    I haven’t said anything about the not-guilty verdict of that illegal who committed murder. Horrible verdict given the evidence.

    The lunatic left thinks man in his heart is basically good, so they see no problem bring in immigrants from anywhere.

    I have no problem with legal immigrants coming in from people groups sympathetic to our American values.

    I also have no problem saying NO to allowing in people from parts of the world where they believe it is right to slaughter people who are of another religion. Or people who think young girls should have their genitals removed. Or people who think we should be communist.

    But we have countries for a reason. Globalization only would work in theory if there was no evil in the world. The left’s solution is to ignore evil and declare everything good. I guess they weren’t paying any attention during the 20th century.

  662. jason says:

    No, I don’t think so… called me HHR biggest fraud…

    That’s right out of the moron’s vocabulary.

  663. mnw says:

    jason

    re: Bad News Bears

    There used to be a pro basketball player named Marvin “Bad News” Barnes. Maybe it was him?

    re: 52 votes

    BIG mistake, if that’s the cause of the delay. Pull the trigger before you lose somebody you think you already have. This yes vote coalition is about as stable as plutonium.

  664. jason says:

    This guy was as innocent as OJ.

  665. jason says:

    It’s not McConnell’s first rodeo.. I don’t think he would bluff on having the 50 votes.

  666. jason says:

    Is Pence on his way in for the vote?”

    He will be there anyway, it doesn’t mean he is needed.

  667. Chicon says:

    680 – I’ll be curious to see how much flexibility exists when this beast emerges from the conference committee.

  668. jason says:

    The NYT says its a done deal, just working on Collins and Corker now… but who believes the NYT?

    “Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, said “we have the votes” and the Senate will begin voting later today.

    • Three previous Republican holdouts — Senators Jeff Flake of Arizona, Steve Daines of Montana and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin — threw their support behind the bill.

    • The bill will now include a $10,000 deduction for state and local property taxes in a bid to sway Senator Susan Collins of Maine, who remains on the fence.

    • An effort by Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee to include future tax increases to offset the deficit impact of the bill appears to have been rejected by Senate leadership.

    • Lawmakers are now considering reinstating a modified version of the alternative minimum tax on individuals and on corporations.”

  669. jason says:

    Collins will be a yes.

    And I guess partially reinstating the stupid AMT tax is to buy off Corker.

  670. jason says:

    Well, don’t McConnell and Ryan decide who will be on the reconciliation committee?

  671. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This new poll by America First shows Moore +1 in the Alabama Senate race. During the height of the accusations against Moore, this pollster showed Moore -8; so a 9 pt. swing toward Moore, which is in-line with other recent polls.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/362668-pro-trump-groups-poll-finds-moore-up-1-in-alabama?amp

  672. mnw says:

    Andrew McCarthy, the Blind Sheik prosecutor, is always on the money on anything of this sort.

  673. jason says:

    I like the “pro-Trump group” headline, as if that were somehow relevant to the poll…

    Considering Trump endorsed Strange, not Moore, and this group has even helped Moore yet, it’s laughable they think that discredits the poll.

  674. jason says:

    not even helped Moore yet…

  675. mnw says:

    I bet the DEMs are no longer shoveling money to Jones, although I hope they are.

  676. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    688 &690
    This Bloomberg News article by the great Eli Lake buttresses the NRO article by Andrew McCarthy. In sum, Mueller is trying to get Jared Kushner on a Logan Act crime. If so, good luck with that since no one has ever been convicted under this 1799 Act and many legal scholars believe it to be unconstitutional.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-01/kushner-is-said-to-have-ordered-flynn-to-contact-russia

  677. Trump says:

    “Yeah, he would have won Ohio, but not by 500k votes like Trump did.

    That margin shows just about any R would have won Ohio.”

    Rubio got 2% in GOP primary. When the primaries were still hot.

    Voters in Youngstown and Lorain are not enamored with amnesty.

    “Why? Because most voters do support it.”

    Right, that’s why Trump ran on bashing immigration and building a wall, and crushing the GOP “stalwarts”.

  678. Trump says:

    “• An effort by Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee to include future tax increases to offset the deficit impact of the bill appears to have been rejected by Senate leadership.”

    What a stupid as*!

    Here’s a clue, dumbas#, cut spending to offset the deficit.

  679. Mr.Vito says:

    Any Republican that could duplicate Romney’s 2.66 million votes in Ohio in 2012, would likely have beaten Hillary there in 2016 just from the drop in the black vote. Portman’s coattails would have done the rest. The blue wall state would have been the dicier one.

  680. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ABC clarified its story:

    “ABC said later in an updated report that Flynn will say Trump asked him to make contact with Russia “initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria.”

    A boo boo by omission.

  681. NYCmike says:

    Corker is as Corker does.

    Good riddance.

    If Marsha Blackburn wins his seat, the number of sets of cojones for Senators from Tennessee will finally reach 1.

    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/29/blackburn-cooper-bill-would-out-congress-members-who-use-taxpayer-funds-settle-sexual-harassment-cla/906198001/

  682. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    597. “I’ve been a cruise for the last 10 days, but the report filed by Brian Ross to ABC about what Flynn will testify to is a bombshell, IF ACCURATE.”

    Only the last two words in your post were correct; as it was not accurate.

    So where did you go cruising Robbie?

  683. Mr.Vito says:

    lisab thinks it was Tom Cruise that he was on.

  684. NYCmike says:

    “So where did you go cruising Robbie?”

    -NY Times website?

  685. NYCmike says:

    Heh!

  686. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    700. “So where did you go cruising Robbie?”

    Hope it wasn’t in the Pacific, there are 15-20 feet waves coming in from the north. And its getting choppy. It is making it difficult to even get to Catalina.

  687. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    “But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream”

    Amos 5:24

  688. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    700. A tribute to Robbie’s recent cruise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUSd_RYnxAY

  689. DW says:

    705 – that sounds like it should be have Ted Kennedy’s life verse. He knew about rolling down in water.

  690. DW says:

    “A boo boo by omission.”

    Or an intentional omission by design.

  691. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    705. Believe both Hillary and Trump might respond to Comey with the following Biblical verse:

    Proverbs 25:19: “Sin is not ended by multiplying words, but the prudent hold their tongues.”

    Babble by Comey has caused all sorts of problems; he needs to go on a cruise, and it needs to be more than 10 days.

  692. DW says:

    another earthquake in Japan today, this one 5.1, and close to the nuke disaster site.

  693. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Remember the good old days when an FBI director kept quiet, hung around the race track with mafioso, and blackmailed politicians he did not like? We have lost all sense of decorum.

  694. mnw says:

    Collins is a yes, & that’s as good as it’s gonna get, Mitch. PULL THE TRIGGER!

  695. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    More gossip by the news media rebutted:

    realdonaldtrump?

    “The media has been speculating that I fired Rex Tillerson or that he would be leaving soon – FAKE NEWS! He’s not leaving and while we disagree on certain subjects, (I call the final shots) we work well together and America is highly respected again!”?

  696. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Remember the good old days when Presidents didn’t obstruct justice and asked FBI directors to drop investigations and then fire the FBI director for not dropping said investigation?

    And then the public demands and gets an independent investigation that results in felony charges and a vast web of treasonous activities?

    I’m pretty sure people are going to remember November 2018 when they go to the polls.

  697. mnw says:

    The DEMs want all GOP presidents in prison.

    Remember W & “Jail to the Chief” & “Enjoy your trip to The Hague!” ?

    This is just the latest version of that same leftoid wetdream. They made noise about putting Romney in prison too— that was their big fake news right after he was nominated— will he go to prison? Or will he skate on a legal technicality?

  698. DW says:

    Remember the good old days when presidents were serviced under the desk in the oval office by white house interns, and then lied under oath, was disbarred, and impeached by the house of representatives?

  699. DW says:

    Remember the good old days when the Secretary of State left our people to die in Benghazi when they asked for help, and then shouted at the hearing, ‘what difference does it make?’ and then set up her own e-mail server thereby compromising our national security?

  700. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    DW
    Here is one more for your list. I believe this politician is a Democrat Congressman from Nevada.

    December 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm
    @HotlineJosh: RT @alexis_levinson: Big scoop from @KateNocera and @tparti: Rep. Ruben Kihuen’s former finance director alleges he sexual harassed her during…

  701. JC says:

    Does anyone know when the vote is supposed to take place?

    BTW, I am NOT getting my hopes up. I fully expect a delay of vote or a bait and switch at the last second. I’ll be happy to be wrong

  702. jason says:

    Corker is a no, so I guess now they can vote.

  703. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This new 2018 Florida Senate Poll shows Republican Rick Scott +10 over Democrat incumbent Bill Nelson.

    http://polls.saintleo.edu/post-hurricane-season-saint-leo-university-poll-finds-conditions-look-favorable-for-rick-scott-race-for-u-s-senate/

  704. jason says:

    This whole thing illustrates how idiotic it was for Sessions to recuse himself and allow for a SC to be appointed. There was absolutely no reason for him to recuse himself, a really horrible mistake.

  705. DW says:

    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman

  706. Bitterlaw says:

    Instead of reading the last 150 posts in detail, let me know if this pretty much sums them up:

    Robbie – Trump is doomed.

    Tina – Nothing to see here.

    Everybody else – Somewhere between Tina and Robbie with a lean towards Tina.

  707. DW says:

    721 – that cannot be. Robbie ensured us there will be a 2018 bloodbath for the GOP.

  708. DW says:

    726 – that’s a huge catch…the guy is young, and potential to be a rising Dem star.

  709. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Hey, let’s agree to give a moment of silence for our vets especially those that have served honorably in combat in units such as the marines.

  710. Chicon says:

    I’m not sure what to make of Flynn’s deal. I do know what would be far worse for Trump – Flynn pleading guilty to a conspiracy involving Trump colluding with Russia for their help in the election in return for easing up on sanctions.

  711. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Robert Mueller:

    United States Marine Corps
    Years of service – 1968–1971[2]
    Rank – US Marine O3 Captain
    Unit – H Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division
    Commands -Platoon commander

    Battles/wars – Vietnam War

    Awards –

    Bronze Star Medal w/ Combat “V”
    Purple Heart Medal
    Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal (2) w/ Combat “V”
    Combat Action Ribbon
    Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross

  712. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    “Flynn is widely regarded as dead-to-rights on more charges than Making False Statements—notably, FARA violations (failing to register as a foreign agent of Turkey under the Foreign Agent Registration Act). There’s recently been evidence he was part of a kidnapping plot, too.

    “Getting charged with just one count of Making False Statements is a great deal for Mike Flynn—it doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll escape incarceration, but a) it makes that a possibility (depending on what the parties and judge say and do), and b) any time served may be minimal.

    “Deals like this are offered only when a witness can incriminate someone “higher up the food-chain” than them. In the case of the nation’s former National Security Advisor, the only people above him in the executive-branch hierarchy are the President and the Vice President.

    “There may be other targets in the Russia probe—such as Attorney General Sessions—at Flynn’s same level in the hierarchy, but unless he could incriminate two or more of them, a deal like this would not be offered to him. And there aren’t two or more at his level in this case.

    “What this indicates—beyond any serious doubt—is the following: Special Counsel Bob Mueller, the former Director of the FBI, believes Mike Flynn’s testimony will incriminate the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, or both of these two men.

    “For this reason, what’s about to happen is far and away the biggest development thus far in the Trump-Russia probe, and likely the biggest development in U.S. politics since President Nixon resigned from office during the Watergate scandal.

    “This is historic.”

    Analysis by top legal scholars; not imbeciles like Jan with her “my-trailer-park-agrees-with-me” alternative facts.

  713. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #730
    And the relevance is…..? According to the previous Administration, Bowe Bergdahl served with honor and distinction. Tim McVeigh,the Oklahoma City bomber, was honorably discharged from the Army.

  714. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #731
    Yes, legal scholars on the Left who have an agenda. Read Andrew McCarthy’s take even though it might be too sophisticated for your pea brain.
    Let’s review: (1) Manafort and Gates charged with crimes pre-dating Trump’s campaign and (2) Flynn pleas for one process crime after the campaign.

    Where’s The Beef!!!?

  715. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    DW
    It appears that you soon be adding lots of names to your naughty boys’ list–BROADWAY VIPS–.To wit:

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/12/01/buckle-up-libs-were-pretty-sure-not-a-single-conservative-will-be-named-in-the-nyts-next-big-sexual-misconduct-scoop/

  716. JC says:

    The Justice Dept has issued an arrest warren to Kate’s killer. Thank god.

    San Francisco is trash.

  717. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    724. Bitterlaw says: December 1, 2017 at 5:30 pm Instead of reading the last 150 posts in detail, let me know if this pretty much sums them up:
    Robbie – Trump is doomed.
    Tina – Nothing to see here.
    Everybody else – Somewhere between Tina and Robbie with a lean towards Tina.

    Good summary.

  718. Tgca says:

    Congress Kihuen says he’s sorry. See apology below with translation please.

    “The staff member in question was a valued member of my team.”

    Translation:
    I love and respect all women. They’re invaluable ASSets to my team.

    “ I sincerely apologize for anything that I may have said or done that made her feel uncomfortable.”

    Translation:
    Yo b*tch, you want some eggplant?
    No?
    Your loss. I’m a Congressman and got 10 other b*tches who’d love some eggplant.
    Sorry if that offends you…but it’s true. I’m a Congressman.

    “I take this matter seriously as it is not indicative of who I am. “

    Translation:
    That’s not who I am…at this moment. Maybe later though. Interested?

    “I was raised in a strong family that taught me to treat women with the utmost dignity and respect.”

    Translation:
    Oh sh*t! That hag Pelosi is gonna suggest I resign. Need to reinforce my women commitment. I would never offend any woman. My mom was a woman.

    “I have spent my fifteen years in public service fighting for women’s equality, and I will continue to do so.”

    Translation:
    I learned I get more a$$ by telling these b*tches what they want to hear.

  719. JC says:

    The acquittal of Kate’s murderer is an end result of 40 years of liberal indoctrination. Leftist simply do not believe in the rule of law.

    Lose an election? Try to overturn it.
    Lose a legislative battle? Shop for an activist judge to stop it.
    Don’t like a federal law? Simply ignore it.

    We can’t coexist as a country when one part of it thinks that they can disregard any and all laws and elections at a whim if they don’t like them.

  720. JC says:

    Corker is a no. Because of course he is.

    Waiting for Bitter to tell me there’s nothing wrong with a ‘centrist’ (dem lite) deadender representing Tennessee, a state that Trump won by 26 points (largest victory since Nixon).

    For too long our party has been lead by people who don’t represent us.

  721. Tina says:

    Where doe bitter lean, or will he need to consult with his philky amigos?

  722. lisab says:

    “So where did you go cruising Robbie?”

    highway rest areas would be my guess

  723. Tina says:

    I say it is nothing because it does not relate to collusion. It is also confusing since comedy testified that flynn did not mislead and he was cleared. Mueller indicates otherwise.

  724. lisab says:

    you’re welcome

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN

  725. JC says:

    lisab says:
    December 1, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    you’re welcome
    —————

    Thanks. Much easier to find names on the pervy list when it’s alphabetized.

  726. Paul says:

    So, when is the tax vote?

  727. JC says:

    Now lets do it by party:

    Dem/liberal leaning;
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer

    GOP/conservative leaning;
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor

    Other;
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Mascot – LA Kings

  728. Tina says:

    2h
    Kushner reportedly directed Flynn to call “every member” of the UN Security Council about an Israeli settlements resolution… and the main takeaway is that this is a “Russia scandal”

  729. Paul says:

    Kushner hates America.

  730. janz says:

    How about Gerrardo Rivera?

  731. janz says:

    Oh, he is on the list.

  732. JC says:

    janz says:
    December 1, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    How about Gerrardo Rivera?
    ————–

    We’re close to hitting the whole alphabet.

  733. janz says:

    What A way for Corker to end a career – being a no vote which will widely be interpreted as a sour grapes one mostly against trump.

  734. Tina says:

    Corker gave us the iran deal.

    Pos.

  735. Tina says:

    Thhe hill is reportin that flynn was authorized by the obama admin to meet the russian ambassador.

    I noticed in the olea docs that there is reference to flynn being a spook.

  736. Albert Hodges says:

    ABC has corrected Ross’s story to say that PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP instructed Flynn.

    Damage was done. Then the correction.

    Nothing burger here.

    Tax reform passes this week with Obamacare mandate gone. The economy will roar, Moore will win next weekend and Mueller is just wasting our money and libturds’ time.

    MAKE. AMERICA. GREAT. AGAIN.

    That was my story last year and I am sticking with it!

  737. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362856-cnn-white-house-claims-obama-admin-approved-flynn-calls-with-russian

    CNN: White House claims Obama admin approved Flynn calls with Russian ambassador

    “The White House said on Friday that it was the Obama administration that authorized former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during President Trump’s transition, according to CNN.

    ““We should point out, that is something that we have not heard before in terms of a defense from this White House,” he said.”

    Nice obfuscuation. Try again Tina Tiny Brain.

  738. Tgca says:

    752 JC

    Yes it appears we will hit the entire alphabet. An 85 yo Hollywood wanna be but never made it starlet accused Xavier, Yul, and Zac of inappropriate sexual advances. The accusations against Xavier and Yul date back nearly 65 years to the early 1950s during her time in Hollywood. The Zac accusation occurred in mid 2000s when she auditioned for a small part in the High School Musical series.

    Xavier Cugat
    Yul Brynner
    Zac Enron

  739. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Judge Napolitano on @FoxNews right now about the Flynn charges: “This is probably the tip of a prosecutorial iceberg. This is a nightmare for Donald Trump.”

    Everyone’s favorite judge laying down some truth on you windbags.

  740. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    “Andrew Peter Napolitano is an American syndicated columnist whose work appears in numerous publications, such as Fox News, The Washington Times, and Reason. He is a senior judicial analyst for Fox News, commenting on legal news and trials.”

  741. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/01/judge-napolitano-michael-flynn-guilty-plea-could-lead-constitutional-crisis

    “Napolitano noted that if Trump himself directed Flynn to make contact with Russians, a significant factor would be when it happened.

    “If this occurred while Donald Trump was a candidate and the purpose of communicating with the Russians was to facilitate, encourage or justify their interference with the American political process, then you have a very serious criminal offense, which would probably constitute an impeachable offense,” Napolitano said.

    “He added that if it occurred after Trump won the election, then it would still be an offense, although possibly not an impeachable one.

    “Beyond this, the president of the United States has steadfastly, repeatedly and consistently denied that he had any knowledge of any involvement with the Russians. If Gen. Flynn contradicts that in a credible way under oath, we have a very serious problem on our hands,” Napolitano said.”

    Is Fox News “Liburul Media” now? LOL. Your brains must be exploding.

  742. Tina says:

    Uh it occured in 12/16. He was president elect.

  743. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Even if the crime is lying after becoming the president-elect; obstruction of justice becomes clear which is a serious crime and felony and a monumental abuse of power.

    Even Vice President Pence might not survive. Republicans might just impeach before the 2018 elections just so they can have President Ryan instead of President Pelosi.

    ROFLMAO.

  744. Tina says:

    Yeah clapper is the source, a liar.

  745. Tina says:

    Yeah obstruction, lol jebot.

  746. Tina says:

    There is no lie.

  747. Mr.Vito says:

    It will have to be something more than lying to investigators, even if it were Trump. You can thank Bill Clinton for the precedent.

  748. Tina says:

    Brian ross abc news admits fake news. Re flynn and president elect trump. Critical error

  749. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie says Napolitano is a joke that no one should listen to.

  750. Tina says:

    Clapper who lied to congress.

    Lol

  751. Albert Hodges says:

    I saw Napolitano is the SAME GOPe moron who went on FOX an hour before Comey cleared Hillary in July 2016 and said that Comey was an extremely honest and ethical investigator and would NOT clear Hillary UNLESS she was innocent.

    I knew back then what he really was about.

  752. Mr.Vito says:

    I normally just listen to Dershowitz, who has pretty much been on the money over and over again during the last several years.

  753. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/936760299146956800

    Took abc this long to issue a major correction?

  754. Mr.Vito says:

    Check to see who was buying on Wall Street as soon as the news was reported. heh.

  755. Paul says:

    Tina is melting down now. Wow.

  756. Bitterlaw says:

    740 – Should I explain to you that politicians do not represent “us.” They represent their constituents. For example, Tennessee voters get to choose who represents them. You do not.

  757. Paul says:

    Betting money is moving toward Trump not surviving his term.

  758. Mr.Vito says:

    777 Well, apparently his constituents had decided to show him the door, and he obliged them by walking through it…

  759. Mr.Vito says:

    Betting on Trump not surviving sounds like a good hedge bet, since we saw today that it will tank the stock market.

  760. Phil says:

    Trollmania

  761. jason says:

    Watching the Dems meltdown on CSPAN…

    Everything they did with Obamacare they are now squealing about on the tax bill.

    Tim Scott currently tearing Wyden a new a-hole..

    “479 pages and nobody has read it”.. LOL..remember when Pelosi said nobody knew what was in the 3000 pages Obamacare boondoggle…

    “No Dems are voting for it”…. hello??

    I love payback…

  762. jason says:

    I really don’t see what the problem is of the transition team meeting with Russians.

    I thought the problem was Trump colluded with the Russians to defeat Hillary somehow.

    Seems like the goalposts are being moved.

  763. Tina says:

    Notice how the troll disputes the hill report.

    Clapper is a proven liar, he has lied to congress.

  764. Tina says:

    It is not illegal for transition officials to meet.

    The ibumbler, as president elect, did it himseld.

  765. Tina says:

    Corker is an idiot. Good bye and good luck.

  766. Tina says:

    And the fake abc report this am, did cause the market to fall significantly.

  767. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    2h
    So, it looks very much like while fake news was masturbating over a Flynn-for-nothing plea deal,
    *Trump is moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
    *Getting major tax cuts passed
    *Re-arresting the trash who killed Kate
    *Ending net neutrality

    Yeah, he’s really concerned

  768. Paul says:

    So, I guess the Rex Tillerson thing was a trial balloon or something. Trump says it was all fake news, now. Rex isn’t going anywhere. I’m actually relieved.

  769. Tina says:

    Fake news with flynn and trump and tillerson. Stories wrong as usual.

  770. jason says:

    Schumer says with a straight face he wanted a bi-partisan solution when 45 Dem senators wrote a letter demanding filibuster power on the final bill. Only 3 refused to sign.

  771. jason says:

    Schumer wants to adjourn until Monday, there are voting on that now.

  772. Paul says:

    793: I think the source was Trump. Maybe it was designed to yank Tillerson’s leash and show who’s in charge.

  773. Tina says:

    Chuck is an idiot.

  774. jason says:

    Angus King should support this bill, but he is just a flaming liberal pretending to be independent… what a fraud.

  775. jason says:

    I think the source was Trump”

    No, the source was the MSM fake news frauds.

  776. Paul says:

    I really don’t understand why this awful bill is so important. As a small business owner/middle class individual, I don’t think I get anything out of it.

  777. jason says:

    I really don’t understand why this awful bill is so important.”

    Moonbats never think cutting taxes is important.

  778. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Derskowitz had a good take on Flynn:

    “Many on the left have speculated that this means Flynn is cooperating with Mueller’s investigators or is negotiating to do so, which they argued could be worrisome for President Donald Trump.

    On “Fox & Friends” this morning, Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said he doesn’t think this is a big deal.

    “His lawyers are very smart. What they’re doing is they’re holding up Michael Flynn and saying, ‘He can be bought or at least rented by either side,'” Dershowitz said. “If the president wants him, he can pardon him. If the president won’t pardon him, he’ll flip and become a prosecutional witness.”

    He said Flynn’s credibility as a witness, however, is “worthless,” because he’s been accused of perjury and he’s shown the willingness to make a deal with either side.

    “He’s a bought or rented witness. The only thing he can do is provide documentation or leads to the other side,” Dershowitz said. “No good prosecutor would ever put him on the witness stand.”

  779. Paul says:

    I appreciate cutting taxes. However, this bill increases taxes in a number of key areas that will affect my family.

  780. jason says:

    awful bill”

    What more do we need to know that its good?

    It even attacks the most unfair tax of all, the estate tax, where you pay taxes your whole life and then are taxed again when you die.

    Some Dem moron said its not a tax on the dead its a tax on the heirs. Spoken like a true Marxist.

  781. jason says:

    At least Corker didn’t vote to adjourn.

  782. jason says:

    However, this bill increases taxes in a number of key areas that will affect my family.”

    I bet that is a bald faced lie.

  783. Paul says:

    The estate tax is so unfair. Maybe for big babies like Jason.

  784. jason says:

    I see Menendez is wearing ankle chains.

  785. jason says:

    It doesn’t have to affect me.. it’s still a travesty.

  786. Paul says:

    Higher education loans and grants being counted as income for one.

  787. jason says:

    47 – 47… Dems are running out of votes.

  788. Paul says:

    I don’t cry for anyone who is affected by the estate tax. If you do, you are one big fat fool.

  789. jason says:

    I don’t agree with the loan as income, but nobody is going to agree with everything.

    Most of the provisions are vast improvements to the status quo.

  790. Paul says:

    Maybe we should work harder and get it right before voting. That would be a novel idea.

  791. jason says:

    I don’t cry for anyone who is affected by the estate tax.”

    LOL, Marxism at its best.

    It’s ok to have an unfair tax on the wealthy because they are wealthy.

    Of course, many are not wealthy, they own businesses and farms that have value on paper but the heirs would have to sell the assets to pay the taxes.

  792. janz says:

    Phil, your earlier estimation of the validity of Ross’s breaking news was spot on.

  793. jason says:

    “That would be a novel idea.”

    Would have come in handy on Obamacare, that’s for sure.

    But the fact is, EVERY idea in the Republican tax bill has been discussed over and over for years.

    You don’t want to get it right, you just want to keep raising taxes to spend on keeping people voting Democratic.

    Let’s get real here.

  794. janz says:

    Did the Senate keep doubling the estate tax exemption? Or, did they throw that out?

  795. Paul says:

    It really affects only a very few extremely large farms. I think the estate tax forces some wealthy to find ways to reduce wealth through charitable giving or trusts. Generally, I think that is a good thing.

  796. jason says:

    Maybe we should work harder and get it right before voting.

    Ok 52-48 against adjourning.

    Let’s vote and do something for the country while the morons focus on Flynn.

  797. Mr.Vito says:

    “Maybe we should work harder and get it right before voting. That would be a novel idea.”

    At least we don’t have to pass it to find out what’s in it this time…

  798. Paul says:

    Were taxes raised during the past eight years? I don’t recall.

  799. jason says:

    I would like to see Rubio’s amendment pass.

  800. Mr.Vito says:

    “I think the estate tax forces some wealthy to find ways to reduce wealth through charitable giving or trusts.”

    Well, force is pretty much what leftism is all about.

  801. jason says:

    Sanders worried about 1.4 trillion increase in debt after Obama raised it by many times that amount and he voted for it.

    Freaking hypocrites.

  802. Paul says:

    Feel the force.

  803. jason says:

    Were taxes raised during the past eight years? I don’t recall.”

    Are you thanking Republicans?

    You are welcome.

  804. jason says:

    Sanders amendment about to be relegated to the trash heap of history.

  805. Mr.Vito says:

    “Sanders worried about 1.4 trillion increase in debt after Obama raised it by many times that amount and he voted for it.”

    Bad precedent for him if he ever hopes on passing any of his programs.

  806. janz says:

    Hmmm….Discussion about starting an initiative here in CA to revoke the sanctuary state legislation, in lieu of the Steinle killer’s acquital.

  807. jason says:

    “I hink the estate tax forces some wealthy to find ways to reduce wealth through charitable giving or trusts”

    Oh, THAT makes it fair?

    The government FORCES people to give to charity?

    LOL

  808. jason says:

    Bad precedent for him if he ever hopes on passing any of his programs”

    Right, his universal HC, free college, free housing, free transportation free everything would not increase the deficit.

    You have to admire the chutzpah.

  809. janz says:

    Dems don’t seem to worry about the debt or deficits when they increase on their watch – mostly due to funding social programs rather than growing the economy.

  810. jason says:

    Were taxes raised during the past eight years? I don’t recall.”

    Obamacare didn’t raise taxes?

    Are you really going to make that argument?

  811. janz says:

    I’ve always viewed estate taxes as revenue overreach. When Trump first talked about their abolishment I was jubilant. Of course that appears to have been too good to be true. The same goes for the AMT, which also seems to have escaped bring axed.

  812. Paul says:

    836: Yes, it sounds like the Estate Tax remains, but the exemption is doubled from $5.5 mill to $11 mill.

  813. jason says:

    Heh, even some Dems rejected Sander’s amendment.

  814. jason says:

    It remains until 2024 when it will be phased out hopefully.

  815. jason says:

    I didn’t vote for Trump but frankly if this thing passes plus Gorsuch in SCOTUS his Presidency is already a huge success.

  816. jason says:

    McCain not straying from reservation so far.

  817. lisab says:

    This is not the year for mistletoe in the workplace.

  818. Tina says:

    Coree, pass the bong.

  819. Tina says:

    Estate taxes should be eli inated, like the depts of no energy, no education and half a state dept.

  820. jason says:

    Let’s see if any Dems vote for Rubio’s amendment.

    Several want to vote for it but their leftist masters don’t want them to support anything advance by the Rs.

    In other words fear of retribution by the moonbats will keep them from voting for expanded child credits and an increase in the corporate tax rate from 20 to just under 22%.

  821. Mr.Vito says:

    Just under 21% isn’t it?

  822. janz says:

    As I calculate any benefits this tax legislation will give us, I see it as zero – perhaps we’ll even be paying more. But, I do believe it will help manufacturing and small business growth. So, I’m keeping fingers crossed it will pass.

  823. Paul says:

    So, amendments take 60 votes. But the whole bill only takes 51.

  824. Mr.Vito says:

    I am not the least bit concerned about this tax bill; I expect ours to increase some, but our effective rate is already stupidly low.

  825. Mr.Vito says:

    They require 60 if they waive the reconciliation rules probably.

  826. Mr.Vito says:

    That is, a request to waive the process was probably part of it, and a point of order was probably raised.

  827. Paul says:

    Several dems voted for Rubio amendment. It might pass.

  828. Paul says:

    Corker voted no on Rubio Amendment. McCaskill and Donnelley voted yes.

  829. Paul says:

    Oh well. Sounds like most GOP voted against it.

  830. jason says:

    He got a few Dem votes…

  831. Paul says:

    Looks like most of the “yes” are dems but clearly not enough.

  832. jason says:

    Manchin voted yes too. Stabenow. Peters. Klobuchar.

    The Rs don’t want the corporate tax over 20% that was already a compromise.. Trump wanted 15%.

  833. jason says:

    Cruz voted yes. Cotton.

  834. jason says:

    Mixed bag but its about 70-30.

  835. jason says:

    AARP opposes the bill…LOL

    Leftist hacks.

  836. lisab says:

    Michael Flynn was facing more jail time than Kate Steinle’s murderer.

  837. jason says:

    Menendez wasting everyone’s time on motion to send back to committee.

    Zzzzzzzz….

  838. lisab says:

    state department foia document release reveals that the state department provided tech support for hillary’s illegal server.

  839. jason says:

    Ok let’s vote.

  840. lisab says:

    the dem trolls are more outraged about flynn having a phone call than NBC having rape rooms

  841. Paul says:

    You should know, lisab.

  842. BayernFan says:

    are they voting?

  843. Paul says:

    They are finishing up the amendment to return the bill and repeal the SALT deduction.

  844. mnw says:

    BF

    Are you still living in Europe?

  845. lisab says:

    more points for meeeeee!!!!

    transparent dem troll,

    you need to hire better trolls

    these are too easily triggered!

  846. BayernFan says:

    did it lose 52-48?

  847. BayernFan says:

    I don’t live in Europe. wtf

  848. mnw says:

    I guess I confused you with Zurich Mike. Sorry.

  849. Paul says:

    Now it’s Cruz’ homeschool amendment.

  850. BayernFan says:

    No worries. I live in Indiana.

  851. Paul says:

    Lisab: I don’t think BayernFan was triggered at all.

  852. BayernFan says:

    triggered about what? I’m so confused.

  853. lisab says:

    cnn anchor soon to be outed for sex harassment

  854. Paul says:

    Sorry about that. I’m just messing with Lisab.
    Sounds like we still have a bunch of amendments before the actual vote gets around.

  855. BayernFan says:

    who?

  856. Mr.Vito says:

    Is there a betting pool on who that is?

  857. mnw says:

    Looks like ABC’s Brian Ross is the clear favorite now to win Fake Newsman of the Century.

    Every word of his report this afternoon has now been exposed as either a lie or gross negligence. ABC is acknowledging that it was pitiful journalism.

  858. lisab says:

    there is a pool

    tapper and cuomo are the favorites

    cooper and wolf are the longshots

  859. lisab says:

    pretty sure it is not cooper or wolf

  860. jason says:

    Cruz amendment is 50-50… where is Pence

  861. mnw says:

    What’s the Cruz amendment?

  862. lisab says:

    State Department has ‘no problem’ with Trump team’s Russia contacts

    “We stand ready, if they want to work through the State Department to contact some of these individuals, but we have no comment or no problem with them doing such [things] on their own,” State Department spokesman Mark Toner told reporters.

  863. Paul says:

    Cruz is Tax deduction for homeschoolers and private k-12.

  864. Mr.Vito says:

    lisab, Don Lemon seems a possibility based on his New Years episode

  865. jason says:

    Whoops back to 50-49 against

  866. lisab says:

    Don Lemon seems a possibility based on his New Years episode
    ————————-

    he was mentioned but for some reason people don’t think it is him

    not sure why

  867. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe they are afraid someone will say their suspicion is racially motivated.

  868. jason says:

    Kaine is a joker…

    Calls giving people back their own money a “give away”.

    So glad this turd is not VP.

  869. mnw says:

    Good. I don’t want any of the usual suspects to change their mind because the bill got amended.

    1) The bill passes: GOP gets attached for the entire next year for rewarding billionaires at the expense of the working folk, etc. Might cause GOP disaster in ‘18; might not. Depends on perception of how the law effects the voters.

    2) The bill fails: GOP gets savaged for the next year as the do-nothing Congress. That WOULD work, & the GOP would lose the House & maybe even the Senate.

    So, I prefer the option that gives the GOP a chance to ague for what they DID, instead of having to explain why they did NOTHING.

  870. Wobbles says:

    I believed it. The MSM is never wrong.

  871. Paul says:

    Kaine’s amendment now. It sounds like it would make sense. All taxes are made permanent and it is paid with the corporate rate going to 25 instead of 20.

  872. lisab says:

    sen john mccain becomes the first Democrat to vote Yes on tax reform

  873. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If you want an example of how useless CNN is as a news source, check out this article about the new Tesla battery in South Australia. It provides enough electricity to power 30,000 homes, and is touted as a wonderfully solution to the intermittent nature of wind power.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/technology/tesla-battery-south-australia/index.html

    A minor fact the CNN article failed to mentioned — the battery only supplies power for one hour.

    The Australian authorities refuse to say how much it cost (California also refused to state the costs of some batteries it installed). One estimate is 50 million dollars, based on a comment made by Elon Musk.

    Also not mentioned is that South Australia is also building a gas-power plant, which will produce three times the power of the battery, and supply back-up energy 24-7 for when the wind is not blowing.

  874. Paul says:

    Bipartisan killing of Kaine’s amendment.

  875. jason says:

    All taxes are made permanent and it is paid with the corporate rate going to 25 instead of 20.”

    25 is still way too high. Also he brings back the AMT, another travesty.

  876. lisab says:

    gas is very good,

    and coal is even still better.

    it is difficult to beat a fuel that is almost pure carbon, that burns on demand, is readily available, easy to store and transport.

    note: massachusetts has zero coal 🙁

  877. Paul says:

    897: We’ll see. I’m still hanging on to hope that he will be a jackass and vote ‘no’.

  878. jason says:

    Another good thing about the bill is that it opens up drilling on ANWR.

    Like 2000 acres in area bigger than South Carolina but the eco terrorists still can’t support it.

  879. jason says:

    McCain has voted against every Dem amendment so far…

    He is going to vote yes.

  880. lisab says:

    flynn stopped trending on twitter

    and robbie barely even made a drive by

    nothingburger confirmed

  881. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    899. “it is difficult to beat a fuel that is almost pure carbon, that burns on demand, is readily available, easy to store and transport.”

    Air quality is the issue. Although there has been a lot of new technology leading to cleaner coal use. Countries like China, which use a lot of coal, are moving to natural gas as fast as they are able. Even Germany, which forbids fracking, had a major increase in its use of natural gas last year.

  882. jason says:

    The Dems are hilarious.

    They say taxes will go back up in 10 years so we should keep the taxes high now for the next 10 years.

  883. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    904. Robbie is still drinking daiquiris left over from his cruise.

  884. Paul says:

    Manchin amendment. Similar to Kaine amendment but only takes 51 votes to return to committee.

  885. lisab says:

    Air quality is the issue.
    —————————

    or … and this is just much cheaper … you can put scrubbers on the coal plants

    although, i am not bashing natural gas … it just requires a lot of infrastructure.

    i love my coal/wood burning stove too … nothing keeps a house toasty warm like coal

  886. lisab says:

    also, china uses mostly sucky soft coal

  887. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    899. Toyota is opening a plant in Long Beach, California to produce hydrogen from cow manure.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2017/11/30/toyota-to-turn-cow-manure-into-hydrogen-to-back-its-fuel-cell-vehicle-push/#28deba694589

    I am actually a big proponent of hydrogen; in the next decade several hydrogen plants will open in California’s Central Valley, utilizing cow manure and agricultural (and maybe human) waste.

  888. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    909. There is some progress being made in liquefying coal, which will then become, in effect, natural gas.

    There is an effort now being made to continue operation of the Navajo Coal Plant in northern Arizona for several more years. It will save about 1,000 Navajo jobs.

  889. jason says:

    Manchin looks lost…he gave a plaintive speech earlier on how much he wants to be part of the bill and wants to support it…

    He should switch parties but since he is a fake moderate he can’t bring himself to do it.

  890. jason says:

    Manchin doesn’t even get 40 votes.

  891. jason says:

    Murkowski tears Cantwell a new a-hole…

  892. jason says:

    This should lose 99-1 if it was a rational world.

  893. mnw says:

    Fake moderate. Exactly.

    He’s worthless. He votes exactly like Schumer on anything that’s close, but he gets permission to throw the rubes back home some boob bait when his vote is meaningless.

  894. lisab says:

    I am actually a big proponent of hydrogen
    —————-

    hydrogen is great

    unfortunately also a gas

    requiring lots of infrastructure.

    nothing like just shoveling coal into a furnace

  895. lisab says:

    btw, coal to oil is also a thing

  896. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Shame on ABC News, it got all the trolls on the board all worked up for nothing. Its seems like the distant past when the news media proof checked their stories prior to publishing them.

    “ABC News issued a correction to a bombshell report Friday morning that initially claimed Michael Flynn was prepared to testify that he was instructed by then-“candidate” Donald Trump to contact Russian officials during the campaign.

    But on Friday evening the network said the unnamed source “clarified” the information provided for the original story, saying it was during the post-election transition period – not during the campaign — that president-elect Trump asked Flynn to reach out to Russia regarding “working jointly against ISIS” and to “repair relations.”

    An ABC spokesperson told CNN it didn’t learn of the reporting error until around 6 p.m. Friday.
    The network initially called the updated story a “clarification” on Twitter, before deleting the post and swapping it out with a formal correction, CNBC reported.

    The shocking but erroneous initial report had a profound impact on the markets, causing the Dow Jones industrial average to plummet by more than 300 points in midday. (It later recovered somewhat to close about 40 points lower for the day.)

    Flynn, the former national security adviser to President Trump, pleaded guilty on Friday to making false statements to the FBI – as part of a deal that calls for his full cooperation with investigators in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.

    According to the plea document, Flynn has agreed to “cooperate fully, truthfully, completely and forthrightly” with the probe, with sentencing delayed until those efforts “have been completed.””

  897. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Prior to the ABC debacle, the leftist press was falsely reporting that Tillerson was about to be fired by Trump. Untrue.

    Now a New York Times reporter has Trump talking to the dead.

    “New York Times reporter Yamiche Alcindor either thinks President Donald Trump has the ability to communicate with the deceased, or she made an embarrassing mistake on live TV, and claimed he still can communicate with the late Fox News founder Roger Ailes.

    The reporter appeared on MSNBC’s “Hardball with Chris Matthews” on Thursday evening and said that Trump speaks to Ailes on a regular basis when discussing who the president takes seriously and respects.

    “Who he actually pays attention to are all the people he calls up on the phone. Roger Ailes. All these other people that are just kind of out in the world. Steve Bannon … ,” Alcindor said.

    Alcindor, who is also an MSNBC contributor, covers Congress, race and social justice issues for the Times. She was quickly corrected by Matthews, who chimed in, “years ago – Roger Ailes.”

  898. Bitterlaw says:

    Many of my ancestors were Pennsylvania coal miners. They mined “hard coal.” Apparently, they thought that miners of “soft coal” were p*ssies.

  899. Bitterlaw says:

    At best, the tax plan will not benefit me directly. At worst, it may increase my tax burden. However, I am a team player. Go GOP!

  900. Todd McCain says:

    I agree; I might be marginally better off with a slightly lower federal rate. All in all though, this tax reform plan does very little for me personally.

  901. Chicon says:

    What are the odds McCain and Flake find a way to vote against the compromise bill that comes out of the committee?

  902. Todd McCain says:

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/media/abc-news-flynn-correction/index.html

    Where is Robbie?

    Turns out the so called “BOMBSHELL” was more FAKE NEWS! Brian Ross should be fired.

  903. Todd McCain says:

    Tax reform is a done deal. Now that SALT is added, the House and Senate bills aren’t that out of sync.

  904. Todd McCain says:

    WAPO:

    Jones 50

    Moore 47

  905. jason says:

    At best, the tax plan will not benefit me directly. At worst, it may increase my tax burden. However, I am a team player. Go GOP!”

    It won’t benefit me either but I am happy it passed.

  906. Chicon says:

    The tax bill has not yet been approved by Congress. The committee awaits. I’m certain they’ll reach an agreement. I’m less sure the fragile coalition in the Senate will hold for the final version.

  907. jason says:

    I like Bob Corker, he has been a fine senator for TN and I am sorry he is leaving the senate. And despite some sour grapes here, he did a great job on the Iran deal.

    However, contrary to McCain and Flake, it seems like he could not get over his personal animosity towards Trump and do the right thing for the country.

    He has the right to be angry at Trump who was a jerk. But I am disappointed that he couldn’t see the big picture.

    He will be popular for a day or so with people who hate his guts because he is a Republican.

    He had made his point about increasing the debt. A valid point. But after Obama increased the debt by 9 trillion, why not take a gamble with another trillion and try to jump start the economy.

    He shows a character flaw I didn’t know was there.

  908. jason says:

    Who appoints who will be on the committee? McConnell and Ryan? If so they will put in people that won’t do anything crazy and are aware its a fragile coalition.

  909. jason says:

    Manchin declared last night “nobody is more bi-partisan than me”.

    I almost puked.

  910. Wobbles says:

    I interrupted my cruise due to the bombshell, as you know modern cruise ships don’t have Internet, so I had to pay a fortune here from Papua New Guinea to transmit via satellite phone.

    I am asking my friends at ABC Fake News to refund my money, its the least they can do after all I do for them.

  911. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish that McCain and Corker would hold a press conference every day where they list in great detail every single flaw of Donald Trump. They could also put out a real dossier of all his affairs, broken marriages, shady and predatory business practices, and pathetic avoidance of serving the country by not going to Vietnam. They should conclude by calling Trump a scumbag in a different language each day. The press conference should conclude with them burning Trump in effigy.

    They should then vote yes on all GOP bills while wearing “Trump Sucks” hats.

  912. mnw says:

    WaPo AL poll:

    Anybody know the PVI? or what their previous poll showed, if there was one? I never heard of “Schar” polling outfit, but I don’t think that’s meaningful.

    I confess I never expected to see another non-internal showing Jones ahead.

  913. mnw says:

    I wish that McStain & his 2 lameduck boy toys were leaving the Senate tomorrow instead of “real soon.”

  914. NYCmike says:

    “….he did a great job on the IRAN deal.”

    -Can someone give the new definition of “great”? I did not receive the new dictionary yet. The A-Holes still trust the USPS……or they are just making it up as they go along. Always possible…..

  915. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish people would not refer to a true war hero by a stupid name. However, it is a free country so they have the right to do it. I also have the right to ask mnw if he served in the military.

  916. DW says:

    Bernie Sanders says the tax bill is ‘robbery.’ I guess he thinks we are all slaves of the state and don’t have the right to our own money. Democrats have been picking my pocket my whole life, then they accuse me of robbery to just have the hope of slowing down their theft a little.

  917. Bitterlaw says:

    I predicted that Moore would lose when he was still ahead in the polls, when he was behind in the polls, and when he was ahead again in the polls. I might as well ride it out and predict that Moore loses. If this prediction is correct, Alabama voters will have seized the title of “Throwing Away a Senate Seat That Could Not be Lost” from Delaware (COD).

  918. mnw says:

    I never served in the military.

  919. jason says:

    Bernie believes, like all moonbats, that there is such a thing as “government money”.

  920. Chicon says:

    Bitter – Moore the Anti-Constitutionalist was known to the voters before the primary. Moore the creeper was not. Delaware keeps the title, imo.

  921. Bitterlaw says:

    I tried to serve. However, while almost every other group can force their way into the military, the discrimination against diabetics remains.

  922. jason says:

    “I never served in the military.”

    Maybe if you had, you would realize the tremendous sacrifice McCain has made for his country, being maimed and tortured and spending years in a hellhole of a POW camp.

    Calling him McStain is a stain on your character, not his.

  923. jason says:

    I did not receive the new dictionary yet.”

    It’s not going to help you, believe me.

  924. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – Good point. I still lean towards Alabama because it is almost impossible for Republicans to lose there in a statewide race. COD beat a Delaware Republican who had never lost an election in a blue state.

  925. Bitterlaw says:

    In more important news, today is the Rec League Basketball Draft. The deal making and corruption while pretending to make “balanced” teams is always fun.

  926. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Washington Post Poll of the Alabama Senate race is R+7. Seems low. Also, Moore is losing only 13% of the GOP vote and gaining 6% of the Dem. vote.

  927. mnw says:

    WaPo poll:

    D/R/I = 31/38/27.

    The LVs rate Jones & Moore TIED on “who do you trust more on the issue of abortion?”

  928. mnw says:

    Sheeple

    Do u know if they did a prior poll?

  929. Bitterlaw says:

    The LVs rate Jones & Moore TIED on “who do you trust more on the issue of abortion?”

    That actually makes sense based on the way the question is posed. I trust Moore to be against abortion. I trust Jones to support abortion.

  930. jason says:

    Giving NYC a dictionary is like handing the keys of a Ferrari to a 2-year old.

  931. jason says:

    Trump is at 50% in AL?

  932. jason says:

    I am at 60/40 Moore wins.

    If he is tied or down 2 or 3 in the final polls I will up it to 80%.

    If he is ahead I will up it 99.9%.

  933. mnw says:

    The actual question was, “Which candidate do you trust more to handle the issue of abortion, Jones or Moore?” (They probably rotated the names)

  934. Tina says:

    Jennifer Rubin
    Jennifer Rubin
    @JRubinBlogger
    every R who votes for tax bill is part of worst corruption in US history –they have no idea how much $ they are putting in Trump’s pocket
    1:15 PM · Dec 1, 2017

    The real c9n perspective on tax cuts from the media blob.

  935. Tina says:

    Sounds like a media junk poll.

  936. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The PredictIt market moved a bit toward Jones(D) in the AL Senate race after release of the WP Poll.It now gives Moore(R) a 72% chance of winning and Jones 22%.

    https://www.predictit.org/Market/3299/Who-will-win-the-2017-US-Senate-special-election-in-Alabama

  937. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #963 Jones s/b 29%,not 22%

  938. mnw says:

    The LVs responded this way on: “In general, would you prefer to have a Senator who is a Democrat or a Republican?” 44D/50R.

    I have enough historical, residual respect for WaPo that I don’t believe they would intentionally commission a partisan poll. That doesn’t mean they didn’t get one, though.

    Fwiw, Moore’s campaign claims that they do nightly tracking polls, & that Moore is consistently +5.

    Drudge has been uniformly anti-Moore, & only reports the polls that are bad for Moore. Breitbart does the exact opposite.

    In the WaPo poll, Trump’s JA of 50% might be low for AL? The abortion results strike me as being anomalous at best for AL, possibly a tell that this isn’t an accurate sample group. 44% preferring a (generic) DEM senator sounds a little high too.

  939. Mr.Vito says:

    It is very heartening for me to hear so many GOPers here also saying that they don’t mind if this bill puts a small dent in their tax refunds. This bill is really about tax reform, not tax cuts.

    I don’t even know the final details of the bill, but I know my effective 3% tax rate or whatever it was last year is just damn silly. Doubling the standard deduction is fine with me even if I lose most of the goodies.

    If the GOP is serious about other reforms, the GOP is going to have to stick together when individuals take a little hit.

  940. Mr.Vito says:

    935 Bingo, Mr. Bitter.

  941. mnw says:

    Vito

    100% agree. I hate it when my friends at work start out by saying, “Well, this bill is bad since I’d have to pay more because [fill in the reason]”

    Want Obama 2.0? If not, better adopt a more sophisticated means of evaluating the bill.

  942. Wes says:

    I’ve seen Democrats hypocritically while about paying more taxes under the new bill. Personally I don’t think there will be a significant increase in taxes regardless of the bill. Even so, I personally am holding out till final passage before I either laud the bill as great or damn it.

  943. Cash Cow TM says:

    Allegations against Democratic Congressman Ruben Kihuen (D–CA)

    campaign worker accuses him of on two occasions him touching her thigh without consent.
    ____________________________

    LOOK OUT COL. SANDERS.

    The chickens in the barnyard are lining up claiming the KFC magnate also touched their thighs without consent.

  944. mnw says:

    pervnado list add-on:

    U.S. Rep. Ruben Kihuen (D-NV).

    DEMs want him to resign. Female staffer.

  945. Mr.Vito says:

    “I wish people would not refer to a true war hero by a stupid name.”

    I am going to put something out here. I am hoping my reputation here will keep it from devolving into a name-calling session… serious posts only please.

    Is McCain a war hero? Or just a story of extraordinary personal triumph?

    My FIL was at the Tet Offensive. My grandfather saw his sergeant ripped in half with machine gun fire. They both were different men after… I have no idea how many lives they saved. Neither is considered a “war hero.” But they are personal heroes to me. They survived.

    And I would trust their judgment a hell of a lot more than I would John McCain’s. In this one regard Trump had a point… McCain is remembered because he was captured. I know most of our brave soldiers would not betray our country. I know that many who endured what McCain did or worse died and are not revered by name.

    I do not know McCain’s combat story. Is their something else in his story that distinguishes himself as a war hero?

    Or do we say this because we hold him up as an example of all our heroes?

  946. Mr.Vito says:

    For example, Desmond Doss is a war hero.

  947. mnw says:

    Pls. This is a site where, so I have been informed, it is acceptable to post that lisab is “a bitch,” because “HHR is a rough site.”

  948. Mr.Vito says:

    “He had made his point about increasing the debt. A valid point. But after Obama increased the debt by 9 trillion, why not take a gamble with another trillion and try to jump start the economy. He shows a character flaw I didn’t know was there.”

    Even more to the point, at least 90% of of his comrades also care about the deficit. DO WE REALLY THINK RAND PAUL, MIKE LEE, BEN SASSE, ETC. AREN’T DEFICIT HAWKS?

    This is bitter grandstanding.

  949. mnw says:

    Must be traumatic indeed for Nancy P & the DCCC to call for the resignation of “Nevada’s first Latino Congressman.”

    Franken has a problem! The DEMs so far only seem to want the AA Conyers) & the Latino (Kihuen) to resign. (And Moore needs to withdraw of course!)

  950. Mr.Vito says:

    As far as ‘McStain’:

    I would say if anyone was uncomfortable with the moniker “General BetrayUs” then probably they should nix the “McStain”.

  951. mnw says:

    Can I call him “a bitch,” or is that forbidden unless we’re talking about another poster who is a woman?

  952. Mr.Vito says:

    “Can I call him “a bitch,” or is that forbidden unless we’re talking about another poster who is a woman?”

    Well, I have to admit, you seem to have been given carte blanche on that.

  953. Redmen4ever says:

    The way to interpret the WP poll is that turnout will be heavily skewed Democrat. Many Republicans will stay home. What you would like is the demographics of the entire sample, not simply those who pass the turnout screen. The Democrats are pouring money into the state. Turnout is how they almost won the special Congressional election in Georgia and how they turned what might have been a close race in Virginia into a near landslide and almost took the lower house.

    With regard to the WP which underwrote the investigative journalism that put the hit on Moore, there is a fine line between reporting news and making news. The WP is clearly way over that line. On the other had, Fox and Gravis have been pretty objective; But, their polls are now obviously dated. A lot of the recent “good news” in this state has been polls conducted by Republican pollsters. It is amazing BOTH that we are at risk of losing a Senate race in Alabama AND that we are in the race with such a damaged candidate.

  954. Bitterlaw says:

    Mr. Vito – I consider all those who served to be heroic. I consider McCain to be a war hero because he endured great sacrifices honorably in a situation where he could not fight back with arms. Being tortured and held in confinement was heroic. He was offered early release and refused to take it. That says a great deal about his character and service and elevates him, in my opinion, to war hero status.

    The men you referred to were heroes, too. I wish that I could thank them personally.

  955. Mr.Vito says:

    Thanks, Mr. Bitter.

    How did the early release work? That DOES sound heroic by my standard also.

  956. Bitterlaw says:

    Because McCain’s father and grandfather were admirals, it would have been a propaganda coup for the North Vietnamese if he took the deal. He did not.

  957. Mr.Vito says:

    For example, if he had to betray others to get it, then I would expect all our heroes not to take it. If he did it for morale of the others, that is beyond the ‘call of duty’.

  958. Mr.Vito says:

    Thanks again, Mr. Bitter. That is beyond the “Call of Duty”.

    I think you have helped me formalize what I am trying to say as well: ‘hero’ as a Call of Duty standard.

  959. Mr.Vito says:

    Speaking of which…

    Has Author’s sister committed any war crimes yet?

  960. Tina says:

    Abc news has apologized for the error in the flynn report.

    Hint to abc, you may want to have a reporter or somebody read the plea agreement,

    There are references to spook and flynn being granted from crimes under obama, but not trump.

    It is also telling that flynn spoke to the russian ambassador on that day 5 times, but could not “remember” those calls. He was doing transitisional work.

    Hint, hint, hint…

  961. Tina says:

    Immunity*

  962. Bitterlaw says:

    I think that many of the “fake news” stories are really sloppy reporting driven by the news agencies not following up because they want the first anti-Trump angle to be correct. Why would a news agency deliberately report a fake story when they know that in the age of instant fact checking and blogs they will have to retract or “correct” the story in a few hours?

  963. mnw says:

    The RRH weekend open thread question is “Who wins AL & by how much?”

    About 85% of the posts* so far say that Moore wins.

    *( including yours truly, although I use a different screen name there.)

  964. DW says:

    Cow, I already added the Dem congressman from NV:

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN

    Its a great catch…because Kihuen is young with long term potential for Ds.

  965. lisab says:

    Why would a news agency deliberately report a fake story
    —————————-
    even someone like md — who was not exactly a billionaire — could literally have made millions on the news, subsequent market crash, and then rebound

    options make a lot of sense if you know which way the market will move

  966. Paul says:

    I feel sick. What just happened:
    You will not be able to deduct the state taxes you pay. You will no longer be able to deduct your mortgage interest. The student loan interest deduction will be gone. You will not be able to deduct your medical expenses – so for those of you paying higher premiums- this deduction was helpful. You won’t be able to deduct charitable donations. For divorced spouses paying spousal support – you will no longer be able to deduct this. Senior citizens will no longer receive the higher standard deduction.
    It is not that easy to make a bill this bad…but it happened right before our eyes. The last time there was major tax reform legislation (1986) the process took nearly three (3) years with hearings and meetings from all corners. This secretive bill has been thrown together in about three (3) WEEKS! It’s massive and negatively impacts seniors, the disabled, and most of the middle-class. The wealthiest among us will receive the majority of the tax and cash benefits. – copy and pasted via a friend

  967. mnw says:

    lisab

    I skip all articles on which way the mkt will move— a random walk down Wall Street. No one knows.

    I do invest to some extent on current events news, though.

    I had nothing whatever in the mkt during the’08 crash. I got that right, because the subprime loan story sounded to me a lot like the savings & loan story back when Bush41 was in office. “A small problem, well-contained. Nothing to see here. Stay fully invested, and you’ll be fine.” But… I was too terrified to get back in early.

    Even if you guess right once, I think few people (certainly not me) can string a bunch of right guesses together quickly.

  968. Paul says:

    Lisab, I forget your exact political philosophy. I recall it being somewhat unique, but I forget.

  969. mnw says:

    Thx to trolly for providing the DEM talking points. We got it. Good work. And Claire McCaskill is a moderate too. Just like Jones. Check. And you really CARE about Moore’s alleged victims 40 years ago, too. Check!

  970. lisab says:

    I skip all articles on which way the mkt will move— a random walk down Wall Street. I do invest to some extent on current events news, though.
    ———————————————

    exactly, current event news,

    if the report was true, the usa would be thrown into potentially an impeachment process, the trump presidency would have been cripples and the tax plan might not have gone through

    if you knew the news was fake, you could make a lot of money on that report.

  971. Paul says:

    Betting on the market falling on the same day that a tax bill was shaping up to pass would have been a fool-hardy guess.

  972. Phil says:

    Lisa is a lib. What makes her unique is that she is a lib who is not a Democrat. Liberal yes. Partisan absolutely not.

  973. Robbie says:

    Smart of Trump to admit he knew Flynn lied to the FBI and then later asked Comey to let Flynn off.

    Donnie Dingbat just inferred he obstructed justice. His lawyers must love they have a client who is his own worst enemy.

    Donald J. Trump?
    @realDonaldTrump

    I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!

  974. lisab says:

    my philosophy on human rights would be classical liberal a.k.a. lockean, and my economic philosophy would be utopian socialist, i.e. small unobtrusive government, fair markets as close to efficient markets as possible — i.e. no monopolies or too big to fail, and laws which use the power of efficient markets and capitalism to solve problems

  975. DW says:

    I should have checked before posting….Bruce Weber, fashion photographer is now accused:

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN

  976. Paul says:

    So would utopian socialist be sort of a kinder, gentler libertarianism?

  977. lisab says:

    dems don’t like me because i am a socialist but, i am not a big government anti-capitalist

    there is ample evidence over the last 100 years that big government socialism depends on the point of a gun to make things even slightly work

    and

    as soon as the government leaders/military leaders are unwilling to shoot their citizens, big government socialism falls apart

  978. lisab says:

    without going into huge essays on economic philosophy

    think trust-busting and destroying monopolies, e.g. regarding net neutrality — let multiple small cable companies compete for your business, instead of just 1 cable company per town. no need for 700 regulations being fought by multi-billion dollar companies if there is competetion between 10 or more small cable companies that have to compete on price and service

  979. DW says:

    “You won’t be able to deduct charitable donations.”

    False. The standard deduction goes from roughly 6,350 to $12,000 for individuals and $12,700 to $24,000 for married couples. So many will not need to bother itemizing, but if you do itemize because your charitable giving exceeded the standard deduction then you can deduct it.

  980. lisab says:

    company a: i will charge you extra to go to netflix

    company b: i won’t. buy my service.

    company c: i’ll give you a 3 month discount

    etc.

  981. lisab says:

    “You won’t be able to deduct charitable donations.”

    False. The standard deduction goes from roughly 6,350 to $12,000 for individuals and $12,700 to $24,000 for married couples
    ——————————————-

    which begs the question, why give tax breaks for charity at all? it doesn’t affect most of the middle class at all and is just so rich people look good without them actually having to pay full price

    it is like when wegmans asks their customers to donate to charity so that WEGMAN’s can say that it donates a bazillion dollars a year to charity

    no wegman’s you did not donate to charity, your CUSTOMERS donated to charity

  982. lisab says:

    remember when the clinton’s donated their underwear for a tax break?

    we don’t want your underwear bill, just give us cash

  983. mnw says:

    Since what is called the GOP (I would prefer to call it “the Big Pirate ship”) can pass the tax bill with votes to spare in the House, a smart thing to do would be to pass the Senate bill as is— they can’t spare a single yes vote in the Senate for all practical purposes.

    Also, delay = defeat. Pass it right away. As Walt said, they’re still mobilizing opposition, i.e., robocalls in WV. The yes votes appear to include a lot of senators who aren’t exactly profiles in courage.

  984. Hugh says:

    If all politicians who lied the fbi went to jail it would be a crowded place. Had comey actually grilled Hillary who knows how many little lies she’d have told. The hypocrisy of the fbi and comey in particular has undermined them for years as a non political organization but these days everything is now political.

    1000. Dumb comment. Let’s see how obama and his pals would do if we investigated what actually occurred with Iran tonget that deal or what happened with Lois leaner and what the whitehouse knew. Special prosecutors for all. Let the all the liars go to jail.

  985. Hugh says:

    1010. Totally agree

  986. NYCmike says:

    “Donnie Dingbat” – Robbie is truly a dimwit

  987. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, it should be President Donnie Dingbat!

  988. NYCmike says:

    Have some respect for the person who saved us from JEB!2016.

  989. Mr.Vito says:

    “You will not be able to deduct the state taxes you pay.”

    Good. Tell your state they no longer have a pass to make everyone else pay for their share of federal government.

    “You will no longer be able to deduct your mortgage interest.”

    Untrue. The Senate version changes nothing. The house version halves it to the first 500,000. Plenty big.

    “The student loan interest deduction will be gone.”

    Since most students don’t itemize, with few exceptions, it doesn’t matter to them. Doubling the standard deduction to 12000. Students getting more than 12000 in grants or paying a fortune on interest can eat it, graduate faster, or go to a college that isn’t overcharging them on our dime.

    “You will not be able to deduct your medical expenses”

    Untrue in the Senate version. They also remove the individual mandate, and Collins also secured a promise to reinstate the subsidies in that event.

    “You won’t be able to deduct charitable donations.”

    Untrue

    “For divorced spouses paying spousal support – you will no longer be able to deduct this.”

    Who cares? If a court determines you owe them money for a while, then pay it just as you would if you were still together. Why am I supposed to pay for it?

    “Senior citizens will no longer receive the higher standard deduction.”

    So? Their standard deduction is doubled like everyone else.

  990. lisab says:

    mueller may not understand how the press works, but i doubt that. he has been around a long time.

    you don’t publish stuff you want to be big news on friday, you publish stuff you want to go away

    you publish big news on monday or tuesday

    flynn was not even trending on twitter by last night

  991. DW says:

    1015 – thanks…I only had time to refute the one about the charitable giving.

  992. Mr.Vito says:

    lisab, the problem is the only givers you will hurt are charities, and people who do not give to the charities just for the tax break (the sincere ones).

    I support capping it to a percentage of income, though.

  993. lisab says:

    why not give to charity because you want to give to charity?

    why should i be forced to subsidize you giving to charity?

    maybe i don’t want to help others, have you ever thought of that?

  994. Mr.Vito says:

    “why not give to charity because you want to give to charity?”

    That’s what I just said.

  995. lisab says:

    yes, we cross posted

    i had not seen your post

  996. Mr.Vito says:

    When charities provide a service that the government then does not have to provide, then it is not a subsidy.

  997. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    988. “I think that many of the “fake news” stories are really sloppy reporting driven by the news agencies not following up because they want the first anti-Trump angle to be correct. Why would a news agency deliberately report a fake story when they know that in the age of instant fact checking and blogs they will have to retract or “correct” the story in a few hours?”

    Totally agree with Bitter. The news media is being sloppy because they want to be the first to publish stories about the Mueller investigation. ABC was receiving wide recognition for its story, until they had to retract it. Being on the cutting edge of reporting means higher ratings, and more income.

  998. lisab says:

    When charities provide a service that the government then does not have to provide, then it is not a subsidy.
    —————————————-
    if it is a necessary service, then let the government provide it, and let those that wish to donate extra do so.

    no need for me to subsidize your donation to the

    Tall Clubs International Foundation

    for tall people.

    not that i have anything against tall people, just that i don’t want to pay for their scholarships to college

    likewise, i do not wish to donate to the

    Marijuana Policy Project Foundation

  999. lisab says:

    The news media is being sloppy because they want to be the first to publish stories about the Mueller investigation…. Being on the cutting edge of reporting means higher ratings, and more income.
    ———————————————

    there are people who are sophisticated enough to buy options and who knew the truth who could make money off the report — maybe not the reporters at abc

    AND

    the many people wanted to believe it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFlWJdEr-eE

  1000. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile Obama is making a total fool of himself in Europe. He first made a bald-faced lie about the reason carbon emissions have gone down in the U.S.

    “I grant you that at the moment we have a temporary absence of American leadership on the issue,” Obama said, to laughter in the audience packed with French CEOs and former ministers.

    But the U.S. remains on track to meet its targets, he said, thanks to the action of some states, cities and because it made “business sense”.

    Actually the U.S. is the only country to make significant emission reductions, mainly because natural gas has replaced coal. German emissions, as an example, went up this year.

    Then Obama gave a lecture to the Europeans about how the E.U. should work. Which fell flat, as he had clashed with European leaders during his last years. They also remember how he failed to attend the Paris Unity march after the French terrorist attack in 2015. As was widely said, “He let the world down.”

    Its time for Obama to just go away. he was a truly awful and failed president, and bears a lot of the responsibility for leaving the Democratic Party in shambles.

  1001. Mr.Vito says:

    “if it is a necessary service, then let the government provide it”

    Unfortunately they are grossly inefficient, lacking, or rife with corruption in providing quite a number of services that are better served by people who administer them for reasons other than to cash a paycheck.

  1002. Mr.Vito says:

    “…and bears a lot of the responsibility for leaving the Democratic Party in shambles.”

    According to Brazile, he emptied their coffers, too.

  1003. NYCmike says:

    San Diego,

    I hope Obama and Hillary stay in the public eye. Only “good” can come from it…..

  1004. Mr.Vito says:

    The government already has oversight in determining which charities are tax-deductible.

  1005. lisab says:

    “Unfortunately they are grossly inefficient …”

    if it is a necessary service, then we should change how the government operates to make it provide the service efficiently

    rather than let taxpayers who have no idea what charity you are donating to, subsidize you

  1006. NYCmike says:

    “Unfortunately they are grossly inefficient, lacking, or rife with corruption in providing quite a number of services that are better served by people who administer them for reasons other than to cash a paycheck.”

    -Thank you for quickly providing a response.

  1007. NYCmike says:

    lisab,

    Maybe local citizens should decide what services they want, instead of the large, distant, and unwieldy federal government, which is the entity we were speaking about…….kind of like the original idea behind the formation of this nation…..

  1008. DW says:

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN

  1009. Mr.Vito says:

    “if it is a necessary service, then we should change how the government operates to make it provide the service efficiently”

    Well, above you said: “i am not a big government anti-capitalist… there is ample evidence over the last 100 years that big government socialism depends on the point of a gun to make things even slightly work”

    So I doubt you disagree with what I’m saying as much as where to draw the line on how much and to what microscopic level government is in control of these things.

    So far I haven’t seen anyone create an effective government that is free of corruption and without enforced compliance, which certainly would be utopian.

  1010. Mr.Vito says:

    “rather than let taxpayers who have no idea what charity you are donating to, subsidize you”

    or the taxpayers can change which charities are tax free with the representation they already have

  1011. lisab says:

    “Maybe local citizens should decide what services they want, instead of the large, distant, and unwieldy federal government”

    in many cases i would be for this very thing.

    for example, i actually don’t have a problem with california deciding it wants high speed rail between san francisco and oakland

    just don’t make me pay for it

  1012. Mr.Vito says:

    If the majority of the country believes the nation and its citizens do not derive a benefit from encouraging charitable giving, then I have no problem with removing the deduction.

  1013. lisab says:

    or the taxpayers can change which charities are tax free with the representation they already have
    ———————————–

    which creates problems based upon who is in office.

    best that we all just agree to pay our share for what our representatives agree are actually necessary, like an army, roads, a system of weights and measures etc.

    and then … if YOU find something that YOU think is important, YOU can pay for it

  1014. Mr.Vito says:

    “which creates problems based upon who is in office.”

    That’s because it is, well, government, which I’ve heard is prone to the types of politics that heartfelt giving of time and money is not.

  1015. lisab says:

    If the majority of the country believes the nation and its citizens do not derive a benefit from encouraging charitable giving, then I have no problem with removing the deduction.
    ————————————–

    by that logic you support obamacare

    which is fine btw, but i don’t support government by majority opinion

    decisions should be made based on rational decisions made by elected representatives and trained government employees

  1016. Mr.Vito says:

    As we’ve seen, the concept of what is necessary is also variable with power…

  1017. lisab says:

    That’s because it is, well, government
    —————————————-

    thus i prefer a government that does not even have that temptation.

    just take away all the fluff and let people spend their own money on what they want

  1018. lisab says:

    As we’ve seen, the concept of what is necessary is also variable with power…
    —————————————

    yes … and again i prefer to take away all the fluff and let people spend their own money on what they want

  1019. Mr.Vito says:

    “by that logic you support obamacare”

    No, by that logic I support what I said only, as refuted further by the comment after, since I do not believe health insurance is necessary.

  1020. Mr.Vito says:

    And, I exercised my right as a citizen to elect those who feel as I do in regard to its necessity.

  1021. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1031. “San Diego, I hope Obama and Hillary stay in the public eye. Only “good” can come from it…..”

    Agree. Which people try and point to Trump’s low popularity, they need to realized many Democratic leaders have even lower popularity.

    However, Hillary knows that the 2020 Democratic nomination is rightfully hers, and is moving in to claim it.

  1022. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1049. Anthony Weiner will be out of prison by then, so can run her campaign computer system.

  1023. lisab says:

    And, I exercised my right as a citizen to elect those who feel as I do in regard to its necessity.
    ——————————————

    which i think every citizen should.

    but saying that, “If the majority of the country believes the nation and its citizens do not derive a benefit from encouraging charitable giving …”

    is either a consistent policy or it is an arbitrary policy for this one item

    as an arbitrary policy it is an unfair standard which unfairly supports the policies you happen to like …

    and as a consistent policy it favors mob rule

  1024. lisab says:

    “Which people try and point to Trump’s low popularity”

    first he loses basicall all the dems, roughly 35% of the electorate, who hate him

    then he loses the gope, say 5% of the electorate, who hate him

    and of the remaining 60% many don’t like him, even if they would vote for him.

    so he almost cannot be popular, even if he wins another 4 years

  1025. Mr.Vito says:

    Well, except it isnt a policy at all, is it… it was a personal opinion on how much I care to pursue the particular issue as a personal matter.

    …just as there are some things you care enough to fight for against majority opinion and some things you do not believe as strongly in.

  1026. lisab says:

    Well, except it isnt a policy at all
    ————————————-

    not a workable or fair basis for government, no

  1027. Tina says:

    Fbi official removed from mueller. He was fired for anti trumo emails and pro clinton emails. He lead the investigation i to clintunes email,

    The fbi needs a major shakep up.

  1028. Tina says:

    The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, removed a top F.B.I. agent from his investigation into Russian election meddling after the Justice Department’s inspector general began examining whether the agent had sent text messages that expressed anti-Trump political views, according to three people briefed on the matter. The agent, Peter Strzok, is considered one of the most experienced and trusted F.B.I. counterintelligence investigators. He helped lead the investigation into whether Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information on her private email account, and then played a major role in the investigation into links between President Trump’s campaign and Russia. […] The people briefed on the case said the transfer followed the discovery of text messages in which Mr. Strzok and a colleague reacted to news events, like presidential debates, in ways that could appear critical of Mr. Trump.

  1029. Tina says:

    https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2017/01/266932.htm

    State dept, no problem with trump transition.

    Obamas state dept.

  1030. Tina says:

    Zbrian ross suspended.

    Architect for the fake news report that tanked the market.

  1031. jason says:

    if it is a necessary service, then we should change how the government operates to make it provide the service efficiently”

    Impossible.

    Because the government has no incentive to provide anything efficiently.

  1032. jason says:

    Zzzzz.. I bet this guy is just the tip of the iceberg…. like him there are hundreds or thousands of others that 8 years that were infiltrated into all levels of government and all agencies and departments during 8 years of Obama.

    You can bet everyone was vetted and litmus tested.

  1033. jason says:

    Hmmm..a little convoluted but you get the gist.

  1034. Tina says:

    Obama State Dept: We have no problem with General Flynn and the incoming administration contacting foreign officials

    On tape, yet clapper says never happened.

  1035. lisab says:

    Because the government has no incentive to provide anything efficiently.
    ——————————-
    that is our fault. there is no reason we could not change how government works.

    for example, pay employees based on performance or if possible outsource the service to many multiple competing companies who can win more business by being more efficient within certain parameters.

    you caught a $10 million dollar tax fraud where we got a $2 million fine? great, here is a 200,000 bonus!

  1036. lisab says:

    oh, you paved 10 miles of road this month within specs? looks like your company will be getting more business

  1037. Phil says:

    Yeah, ABC had no choice but to suspend Brian Ross. He gave false hope to the Washington swamp. Unforgiveable. Also got Robbie excited and stirred up the Hedgehog trolls. Wasted DNC trolling resources on a non story. Paul and Pete Wilson’s time is too valuable to waste on non stories.

  1038. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1036
    Here is another perp for your list. He’s in the entertainment/ concert business.

    https://nypost.com/2017/12/02/legendary-opera-conductor-molested-teen-for-years-police-report/

  1039. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ABC News announced Saturday that Chief “Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross would be suspended for four weeks without pay over a botched “exclusive” about former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

    During a live “special report” Friday morning, Ross reported that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while he was still a candidate. The report raised the specter of Trump’s impeachment and sent the stock market plummeting.

    Later in the day, ABC issued a “clarification” to Ross’s report, saying that Trump’s alleged directive came after he’d been elected president. Ross himself appeared on “World News Tonight,” several hours after the initial report, to clarify his error.”

    Am curious what the four week suspension will accomplish. Maybe they should have sent him home without his dinner.

    This guy needs to go on a cruise with Robbie.

  1040. mnw says:

    Robbie’s cruise was to Fantasy Island.

  1041. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1068. From the article:

    “The alleged victim’s 2016 claims came nine years after the statute of limitations on a possible child sex crime in Illinois had expired. The age of consent in that state is 17. The Lake Forest Police Department investigated the allegations anyway, and turned its findings over to the Lake County State’s Attorney. A State’s Attorney spokeswoman told The Post Friday the case is still under review and no charges have been brought.

    “I began seeing a 41-year-old man when I was 15, without really understanding I was really ‘seeing’ him,” the alleged victim, now 48, said in a written statement to the police department. “It nearly destroyed my family and almost led me to suicide. I felt alone and afraid. He was trying to seduce me. I couldn’t see this. Now I can.”

    The alleged victim, whose name is being withheld by The Post, said Levine showered him with $50,000 in cash over the years.”

    When I was 15, knew what a perv was and knew how to avoid them. To say: “I began seeing a 41-year-old man when I was 15, without really understanding I was really ‘seeing’ him,” My hunch is he was “blinded” by the fact that he received $50,000, which in about 1990 was worth quite a bit more than it is now.

    Appears he was trying to shake the money tree again, was he successful?

  1042. Tina says:

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    ABC suspends Brian Ross for #fakenews

    It goes beyond Brian Ross. What about his supervisor, editor, etc?

  1043. Tina says:

    Trump haters on team Mueller.

    I fixed drudges headline.

  1044. mnw says:

    Trump carried AL by 28 points. So how can the WaPo poll respondents today be only +7 GOP?

    Off year election voters tend to tilt MORE GOP than Presidential election year voters, not less.

  1045. mnw says:

    So for the WaPo poll to be right, a huge percentage of Trump voters must be planning to vote for Jones this time, unless I’m missing something.

    I just don’t believe that.

  1046. mnw says:

    I also note that one question the WaPo pollster never asked his/her 739 LVs was:

    “Who did you vote for for President in 2016, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?” Seems an odd omission to me, if you’re really trying to model a predictive sample.

  1047. Tina says:

    @TheLastRefuge2
    Same FBI Agent Who Sent Anti-Trump Text Messages was same FBI Agent who was in direct contact with Christopher Steele on “Russian Trump Dossier” (link: http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/02/fbi-agent-who-supervised-trump-russia-probe-reportedly-sent-anti-trump-text-messages/?utm_source=site-share) dailycaller.com/2017/12/02/fbi… via @dailycaller

    Good lord, mccabe, comedy, and now Peter Strzok

  1048. Tina says:

    As a result, Nunes said he has instructed committee staff to draw up a contempt of Congress citation for Rosenstein and for FBI Director Christopher Wray. The chairman promised to take action on the citation before the end of December unless the FBI and DOJ meet all the committee’s outstanding demands.

    Lets see if all smoke and no fire, sc failure, dowdy, will support this.

  1049. Tina says:

    Gowdy*

  1050. Tina says:

    Has Clapper admitted that he lied again?

  1051. Tina says:

    Brian Ross
    Brian Ross
    @BrianRoss
    My job is to hold people accountable and that’s why I agree with being held accountable myself.
    5:26 PM · Dec 2, 2017

    Lol

  1052. Tina says:

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    Congratulations to @ABC News for suspending Brian Ross for his horrendously inaccurate and dishonest report on the Russia, Russia, Russia Witch Hunt. More Networks and “papers” should do the same with their Fake News!

    Triggering time.

  1053. Cash Cow TM says:

    What do people say when the meet congressman Trey Gowdy?

    Howdy Gowdy?

  1054. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
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    So General Flynn lies to the FBI and his life is destroyed, while Crooked Hillary Clinton, on that now famous FBI holiday “interrogation” with no swearing in and no recording, lies many times…and nothing happens to her? Rigged system, or just a double standard?

    Boom

  1055. Cash Cow TM says:

    collusion

    lion locus

  1056. Cash Cow TM says:

    U.S. phake collusion

    lineal hocus pokus

  1057. DW says:

    So Robbie is back to his regularly scheduled cruise? He has shown his colors once again.

  1058. mnw says:

    Tina 1082

    That was taken Monday. Today is almost a week later. The WaPo poll referenced above is the new kid on the block.

  1059. mnw says:

    Robbie is back with Ricardo Montalban & Tatoo, where Robbie lives.

  1060. Mr.Vito says:

    Boss! Da plane!

    Da pilot!

  1061. Wobbles says:

    Also got Robbie excited and stirred up the Hedgehog trolls.”

    Man, I had to get off the ship here in Bogo Pogo, hire a couple guys with an outrigger canoe to get me to town so I could spend $200 on a satellite phone at $50 a minute to send my gleeful post about the BOMBSHELL and now they retract the story.

    Ross owes me $200.

  1062. Wobbles says:

    Plus, I went to Amazon and ordered $2000 of new drapes for Pence’s Oval Office makeover, and they won’t refund me the money because it was a deep discount.

    Ross owes me $1200.

  1063. Wobbles says:

    How do you pronounce Strzok anyway?

  1064. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1092. Don’t forget that Bogo Pogo is infested with cannibals. Robbie was very vulnerable, although not likely very tasty.

  1065. Wobbles says:

    Yep, I had to pay another $500 to keep from being eaten.

    Ross owes me $1700.

  1066. Mr.Vito says:

    I was supposed to design a symbol for the new dance club down there… Didn’t work out; they moved to west africa instead.

    That’s Right.

    The Bogo Pogo Go-Go logo was a no-go per Togo.

  1067. Cash Cow TM says:

    WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?

    Martinsburg High School Bulldogs (WV) win another State Title.

    “WHEELING, W.Va. – Martinsburg’s dominant run atop Class AAA continued on Saturday afternoon as the Bulldogs beat Spring Valley 44-16 for another football state championship.

    It was the 28th straight win for Martinsburg (14-0) and sixth title in eight seasons.”
    ________________
    This year, I do not think MHS was EVER ranked #1 in the football polls in WV. Yet they were listed as one of the best 25 HS football teams in the nation (no other WV schools named).

    They were always #2 ranked in state, but blew away just about everyone they played, many shutouts (like 67-0, etc.)

    In the first 2 PLAYOFF games, I MHS held their first opponent to negative total yardage and ZERO first downs (except one or two via penalty) and the 2nd opponent did not get a first down until the second half. I do not think either of the first two playoff opponents even scored…

  1068. Mr.Vito says:

    Sounds dreadfully boring, actually, Walt…

  1069. Bitterlaw says:

    MC

  1070. Tina says:

    You think those crooked disney aholes lost $$$ in the market, no thanks to ross?

  1071. Bitterlaw says:

    Can’t touch this!

  1072. Tina says:

    Thanka mnw, i have not been following closely the al race since crooked liar, allred, refused ro verify the yb signature.

  1073. Tina says:

    The basement dweller who crashes paper planes returned?

  1074. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Sounds dreadfully boring, actually, Walt…”
    _____________________________
    Well, it is certainly more exciting than watching grass growing….(and then munching it).
    #############
    Mr. Vito,

    At the end of the first half in the championship game, MHS was actually behind 13-16 (or some such).

    I watched most of the first half live on Facebook.
    It was X-.

  1075. mnw says:

    You guys are up late.

    I just read a Jonah Goldberg piece at NRO, his take on the AL Senate race, “Don’t Choose the Lesser of Two Evils.”

    The problem with following his lofty conscience-driven directives (Never Trump & Never Moore) is, that line of action leads straight as an arrow to President Hillary and Senator Jones.

    I will never be that “pure,” & I’m quite comfortable with that. Jonah & Peggy Noonan are too damn GOOD for this nasty old world.

  1076. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am sure we all remember Doctor Mbogo from the Addams Family. He was a big investor in the Togo nightclub. So its..

    The Bogo Pogo Go-Go logo was a no-go per Togo’s Mbogo.

  1077. BayernFan says:

    agreed

  1078. Tina says:

    Have clapper and cnn jimmacosta aologized yet?

  1079. Cash Cow TM says:

    How come we are not talking about the Honduras presidential election results?

    President
    Candidate Votes %
    Juan Orlando Hernández 1,157,083 42.21
    Salvador Nasrall 1,154,172 42.11
    Luis Orlando Zelaya 379,396 14.74
    Romeo Vásquez Velásquez 5,155 0.20
    Lucas Evangelisto Aguilera 4,704 0.18
    Marlene Elizabeth Alvarenga 4,593 0.18
    Alfonso Díaz Narváez 3,428 0.13
    Isaías Fonseca Aguilar 2,383 0.09
    Eliseo Vallecillo Reyes 2,136 0.08

    Invalid/blank votes 142,040 –
    Total 2,715,396 100
    Regstrd voters/turnout 6,046,873 57.00

    Source: TSE (77.70% of votes counted; 14,086 of 18,128 polling stations reporting)

  1080. jason says:

    I will be up at 5:30 AM for breakfast, we sleep in on Sundays.

  1081. jason says:

    Thats old news…. Hernandez is like 50k votes ahead now.

  1082. Mr.Vito says:

    The socialist declared himself the winner, like 5 days ago. I hope this is legit.

  1083. Cash Cow TM says:

    Juan Orlando Hernández……..1,157,083
    Salvador Nasralla………….1,154,172
    other dead ender candidates…@ 400,000 votes
    invalid/blank votes………….142,040

    77.7% of the votes counted…since the election on Nov. 26th…
    ##############################
    We thought FL was bad in 2000

  1084. Cash Cow TM says:

    They both declared themselves the winner.

    What concerns me is the social turmoil that has broken out there.

    They are setting fires to things in protest.

    Don’t they know what that does to global warming?

  1085. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump is planning a rally within an hour’s drive from Alabama.

    “Trump to hold rally next to Alabama border before election
    President Donald Trump will appear at a campaign-style rally in Pensacola, Florida, next week, a move that brings the president less than 20 miles from the Alabama border just four days before a special election that will decide the fate of embattled Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore.

    The White House had distanced itself from Moore in recent weeks, and several high-profile Republicans called on him to quit the race altogether, following several allegations of sexual misconduct. Just three days ago, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Trump would not campaign in Alabama on Moore’s behalf.

    The president will instead appear at a “Make America Great Again” rally on Friday night, Dec. 8, at the Pensacola Bay Center, according to a person familiar with the planning who was unauthorized to discuss the president’s movements publicly. The city is roughly an hour’s drive from Mobile, Alabama, one of the state’s largest cities.”

  1086. MichiganGuy says:

    2018 Florida Senate GE:

    Rick Scott 42%

    Bill Nelson 32%

    Someone else 8%

    Unsure/Don’t Know 18%

    Saint Leo University poll 11/19-24

    http://polls.saintleo.edu/post-hurricane-season-saint-leo-university-poll-finds-conditions-look-favorable-for-rick-scott-race-for-u-s-senate/

    This is a little old but, I just noticed it.

  1087. MichiganGuy says:

    Philly Lawmaker Moves To Ban Bulletproof Glass In Businesses

    https://www.themaven.net/bluelivesmatter/news/philly-lawmaker-moves-to-ban-bulletproof-glass-in-businesses-Saf1_mzuD0qK2UuImYTtkQ?full=1

    Why don’t we just hand the criminals our money and thank them for not hurting us.

  1088. lisab says:

    Philly Lawmaker Moves To Ban Bulletproof Glass In Businesses
    ——————————————-

    why not ban armed guards in philly lawmaker buildings?

  1089. Tina says:

    Trump has taken to twitter this am to slam dirty cops comedy, mccabe, and peter strzok.

    Strzok hands are all over the sham investigation of clintune, the russian dossier. Etc.

  1090. Tina says:

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    People who lost money when the Stock Market went down 350 points based on the False and Dishonest reporting of Brian Ross of @ABC News (he has been suspended), should consider hiring a lawyer and suing ABC for the damages this bad reporting has caused – many millions of dollars!

  1091. Paul says:

    Dirty Cops are funny.

  1092. Paul says:

    Traitor Trump is a weasel.