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Jones Leads Moore By 4% in AL

The Washington Post is no longer hanging out there by themselves as Gravis Marketing has just released a new poll showing Doug Jones with a lead over Roy Moore.

US SENATE – ALABAMA (Gravis)
Doug Jones (D) 48%
Roy Moore (R) 44%

This poll was done December 1-3 among 1274 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 3:08 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,505)

1,505 Responses to “Jones Leads Moore By 4% in AL”

  1. Tgca says:

    Uno Bebe! Uno!

  2. jason says:

    Dos, cabrones!

  3. jason says:

    I read this article in the NYT that basically said the reason Hillary lost was because Lauer and Halperin asked her tough questions, giving further credence to the “unfair” meme that she was dishonest and untrustworthy.

    And that the reason they asked her the tough questions was because they didn’t respect women.

    I kid you not. Google it it you think I made it up.

  4. Tgca says:

    Correction. Jason gets the bronze and nitntje silver. Oh Pooh!

  5. jason says:

    Someone will re-weight this poll and make it right, so it doesn’t make me nervous

  6. jason says:

    “nitntje”

    America is a wonderful place, us furners can always get to learn new words.

  7. jason says:

    Kissing a 17 yr old vs Trump “endorsement”

    Which is more important to the race?

    Stay tuned.

  8. Tgca says:

    Drudge reporting another Mueller deputy special prosecutor, Andrew Weissman, sent email in late Jan 2017 praising fired acting AG Yates for refusing to honor Trump travel ban. Copy of email shows him stating:

    I am so proud
    And in awe.
    Thank you so much.

    Clearly, there is no bias in the Mueller team.

  9. DW says:

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

  10. jason says:

    That was NYPR not NPR.

    and…

    “The article’s author, Suki Kim,”

    I would hate to go through school with that name…

  11. DW says:

    Russia kicked out of 2018 Winter Olympics due to doping.

  12. Mr.Vito says:

    The article said NPR journalist John Hockenberry, so thats what I put.

  13. Chicon says:

    I bet Moore tried date her….

  14. Tgca says:

    8 Jason

    Nitntje is Jersey Russian slang for A-hole

  15. Mr.Vito says:

    When will the sex assault investigation move on to rock stars?

  16. NYCmike says:

    “Let’s be specific…..blowhard deadender who thinks the Constitution was written in support of his whacko ideas.”

    -Levin “thinks the Constitution was written in support of his whacko ideas”?

    I did not realize he got his way-way-back-machine to work properly, after Obama pulled the permits for his nuclear fusion engine he invented with Hannity and Limbaugh.

  17. Tgca says:

    My gut feel on the Conyers forced retirement is a good portion of the AA liberal wing is going to skewer white Dems for 2x standards and accuse them of forcing a civil rights icon out while allowing white male Dems accused d similar allegations to stay.

    I relish watching the radical left fight itself on this one. Clearly, you will get privileged white Dem feminists (think SF and NYC) arguing why Conyers needs to go and they’ll have no idea how this will be perceived by poor and working class AA in non-privileged neighborhoods.

    Good luck turning them out to vote in 2018.

  18. NYCmike says:

    “When will the sex assault investigation move on to rock stars?”

    -Once they enter the Black Hole without an invite?

  19. NYCmike says:

    “(think SF and NYC)”

    -LEAVE ME OUT OF THIS!

  20. jason says:

    Nitntje is Jersey Russian slang for A-hole”

    Very cool.

    If the Philly A-hole Club ever opens a branch in Jersey we should call it that.

  21. jason says:

    I did not realize he got his way-way-back-machine to work properly, after Obama pulled the permits for his nuclear fusion engine he invented with Hannity and Limbaugh.”

    Translation: gowjdjeidojeoaiojhb eijejgoejoej ejeetot

  22. Tgca says:

    21 NYC is a white feminist. You heard it here 1st.

  23. Tgca says:

    Drudge lists another accuser, someone I never heard of.

    “ The top editor for the National Enquirer, Us Weekly and other major gossip publications openly described his sexual partners in the newsroom, discussed female employees’ sex lives and forced women to watch or listen to pornographic material, former employees told The Associated Press.”

  24. Tgca says:

    I’m still waiting for dirt on Rachel Maddow. I’m just so sure she had inappropriate discussions in the work place.

    Sorry Rachel, discussing deep sea fishing and muff diving at work are just not the same thing no matter what you think.

  25. BRENT says:

    gravis with a trash poll

  26. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    It appears that the subpoena of the Trump families’ records from the German Bank is BIG TIME FAKE NEWS!!! Bloomberg News broke the report. Shame on them.

    https://news.sky.com/story/robert-mueller-demands-donald-trumps-deutsche-bank-accounts-11157610

  27. mnw says:

    One of the Wise Men at RRH points out that the Gravis poll has T’s apprvl rating in AL “quite a bit lower” than the other recent AL polls.

  28. DW says:

    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  29. Trump says:

    12: Maybe they intentionally doped so that they can stay safe at home while all the other countries are in South Korea.

  30. Wes says:

    Basically Jim Clyburn said to discount the allegations against Conyers because ehite women made them:

    Also at this morning’s House Democratic caucus: James Clyburn compared Conyers’ accusers to the child murderer Susan Smith, who initially claimed a black man had abducted her kids. Clyburn said, these are all white women who’ve made these charges against Conyers.

    Clearly Democrats are hoping white women will now start voying like their male counterparts.

  31. Chicon says:

    Wes, from my viewpoint, the parties are beginning to find a way to handle these things. Each will get some mileage from the other side’s creeps, but most of them (Conyers a notable exception) get to stick around.

  32. Wes says:

    Randy Quaid is now mulling a challenge to Bernie Sanders. I’m sure Quaid will go as far toward challenging Sanders as Kid Rock did toward challenging Debbie Stabenow.

  33. Chicon says:

    Flake donates $100 to Jones. I guess he and Trump do have things in common – a history of supporting democrats.

  34. Tgca says:

    Wes

    Mark my words. Many Liberal AA Dems are going to be furious over this. These elite white feminist women, are going to be attacked for their whiteness and cluelessness as to what is important to AA. Which I think is fair based on many of these women I came across in NY and SF. They are all for supporting AA, as long as you keep them on the other side of town and away from their daughters. That seems like a horrible thing to say but it is very truthful with how any of these privileged white liberal women think and act.

  35. Paul says:

    Flake tweeted his campaign donation to Jones.

  36. DW says:

    34 – Obviously Flake doesn’t know what he is doing–bragging so only will help Moore

  37. Tgca says:

    I guess Flake is looking to become the next Crist of the GOP. Does he realize he just sent a huge GFY to the the AL GOP, and that will help Moore? Does he realize this has no upside for him?

    What is it with spiteful AZ senators who can’t get their way?

  38. Trump says:

    If Flake (and his like) had half a brain, they would realize that their antics only hurt poor schlubs such as Luthar Strange.

    But hey, keep it up.

  39. Phil says:

    Flake is indeed a Flake.

    Why would any sane Republican do that?

  40. Trump says:

    Or maybe, Flake is trying reverse psychology to help Moore.

  41. Tgca says:

    We get it Flake!

    You hate Trump!!!
    He out-maneuvered you and you’re FORCED to retire or lose an otherwise winnable race.
    You’re hurt your image has been severely tarnished and your constituents don’t like you.
    But you think giving $100 to a radical liberal Dem is going to help you somehow?
    Are you really this STUPID?

    Go ahead! Adopt the Charle Crist strategy. Watch how that works for you.

  42. NYCmike says:

    Flake is looking for MD, Author, Robbie, and “CG” to support him when he runs for President in 2020.

  43. NYCmike says:

    Pence planned a “coup”……sounds like a Dr. Seuss book!

  44. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    It appears that tomorrow The Donald will announce that the USA will recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol, but sign the waiver about physically moving our Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem over the next six(6) months. So says the Jerusalem Post.
    As a Jewish fellow, this is heavenly and, almost as good, will be reports of head explosions at the State Department about this policy change!

    http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Trump-calls-Abbas-on-the-eve-of-potential-embassy-move-517063

  45. Tgca says:

    I feel bad in a way for Flake. He looks so desperate, as if trying to stay relevant. Like a bitter gf turned aside by her bf for another girl, and she can’t let it go. After awhile they look so pathetic.

    I can understand this animosity though. I broke Authors heart and MD was just jealous I would have nothing to do with him so turned his lust for me to hate.

  46. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Would Flake go so far as to switch parties?

  47. Trump says:

    Who would want Flake?

  48. DW says:

    Flake could join Orman and form a new party.

  49. NYCmike says:

    “CG” to say Jerusalem should NOT be the capital of Israel in 3….2…..1…..

  50. JC says:

    Man of principle Flake just endorsed abortion extremist and rabid leftist Jones. I guess all it takes is unproven allegations and suddenly it’s A-OK to 120% flip on all of your beliefs.

    But Trump, who is enacting conservative policies, cutting regulations and taxes, and confirming conservative judges is to be condemned and criticized because he’s a meanie on twitter.

    Where’s Bitter to praise ‘man of principle’ Flake and admonish all of us ‘deadenders’?

    Oh, and Romney, unsolicited of course, couldn’t keep his pants zipped at the thought of virtue signaling to the liberal press either. Of course, he’s already made it clear that the presumption of innocents is not to be considered… as long as it’s against those icky flyover people.

    Flake. Corker. McCain. Romney.

    Remember, these type of pols ran the GOP for two decades. This was our leadership. Two of those men were presidential nominees for the Republican party. Is it any wonder why republicans have been losing for so long, even when we win elections? Or why the base has been in open revolt for the last few years, culminating in the nomination of Trump?

    These people are not conservatives. They have no interest in advancing conservative agendas. They do not care about the liberal takeover of our government, media, educational, and tech institutions. They have zero interest in trying to slow the leftist down, let alone fight and defeat them. They are not on our side./i>

    As I’ve said before, we can’t win a war with generals who refuse to fight back.

    Fortunately, they are now being purged out. Thank god and good riddance to these snakes.

  51. NYCmike says:

    “CG” told us how “conservative” Flake is…..actions while governing (looking at you, jason and scooter!) say otherwise.

  52. dblaikie says:

    The Mueller probe is losing credibility by the hour. And this obstruction stuff is crazy. Heck in 1861 Lincoln did away with all sorts of Constitutional rights in Maryland and Kentucky just by the power of his office. Chief Justice Taney resigned in protest of this obstruction of justice. But Lincoln had every right to do it. The Attorney General, the director of the FBI and CIA all serve at the pleasure of the President.

  53. dblaikie says:

    If one more member of the Mueller team is found to be bias, Trump needs to fire him.

  54. Mr.Vito says:

    Flake tweeted ‘Country over party’

    Ironically, that’s also what most of the people who vote for Moore would cite as the reason they are doing it.

  55. Mr.Vito says:

    It’s all perspective.

  56. Robbie says:

    So it seems EW Jackson is preparing to run against Corey Stewart in the Virginia Republican Senate primary.

    The “send a message” crowd must be salivating. Two deadenders!

  57. jason says:

    Flake voted for the tax cuts. We still need his vote. No sense demonizing him now. He is leaving the Senate

    None of the Trump supporters here cared that Trump funded Chuck Schumer for decades and supported the Democratic Senatorial Committee whose purpose is to elect more liberal Democrats.

    Take a deep breath and stop hyperventilating.

  58. Mr.Vito says:

    “Take a deep breath and stop hyperventilating.”

    Yup.

  59. jason says:

    Yeah, I was skeptical of the bank data thing… it seemed to be very much outside the scope of the investigation to look into his loans. I can’t see how loans for hotels and other projects from a German bank would relate to collusion during the campaign.

  60. dblaikie says:

    I agree 100% Jason. Let Flake go away in peace.

  61. jason says:

    The “send a message” crowd must be salivating. Two deadenders!”

    Hey don’t knock it, if deadenders split the deadender vote and Rs can nominate someone who could actually win I am all for it.

  62. Chicon says:

    Jason, the A-hole voice of reason. This is the appropriate stance, imo.

  63. Mr.Vito says:

    …most people don’t care much for what is voiced from an A-Hole

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC is critical of Flake for reportedly donating to a Democrat but absolves Trump?

    I love this place.

  65. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 5, 2017 at 6:38 pm
    The “send a message” crowd must be salivating. Two deadenders!”
    Hey don’t knock it, if deadenders split the deadender vote and Rs can nominate someone who could actually win I am all for it.

    – If those two idiots both run, Eric Cantor should get in the race. He could easily split the middle and win with 40% of the vote.

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Where’s Bitter to praise ‘man of principle’ Flake and admonish all of us ‘deadenders’?

    JC – GFY. You kiss Trump’s ass all day every day and he donated far more money to many liberals. You never condemned Trump for bankrolling Democrats for decades. You think that that the man who donated to Reid, Hillary Clinton and Schumer is going to lead some conservative revolution and save the GOP or conservatism? You are a joke.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason, the A-hole voice of reason.

    Seriously?

  68. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 5, 2017 at 7:02 pm
    NYC is critical of Flake for reportedly donating to a Democrat but absolves Trump?
    I love this place.

    – Logic has never been a strong suit here.

  69. Tina says:

    I left this am and two fake news reports.

    No subpoena for trumps fin rcords from deutsch bank.

    Cnn now reports vp pence to meet with mueller, ceep office says no.

  70. Tina says:

    Is flake still triggered by lock her up.

    What a pos.

  71. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    Remember, Rubio headlined @JeffFlake’s fundraiser and called him a “principled conservative?”

  72. MichiganGuy says:

    Alabama Senate (Strategy Research)

    Moore 50%

    Jones 43%

    Undecided 4%

    Write-In 3%

    https://tinyurl.com/yadz6ot3

  73. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Fox News
    Fox News
    @FoxNews
    JUST IN: Mueller deputy praised DOJ official after she defied Trump travel ban order: ‘I am so proud’

  74. Trump says:

    Trump w ins, Flake is a loser.

    There’s the difference.

  75. BRENT says:

    mueller and his entire team of trump haters needs to be shut down !!!

  76. mnw says:

    MG

    Good catch. Sample size is huge— 3200. It does model the electorate at 53R/33D. However, their previous poll had the race tied.

    It’s a phone poll, but it’s unclear if it was automated or live interview, & whether it included cell phone only households. The poll was conducted yesterday.

  77. mnw says:

    sb “59R/33D”

    It shows 75% of self-identified Republicans voting for Moore, exactly like the one above Dave posted. This one just has a lot more Republicans.

  78. MichiganGuy says:

    mnw, The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points. Seems kinda low?

  79. MichiganGuy says:

    Kind of*

  80. mnw says:

    Tina

    Somebody ought to give you an honorary JD, at least!

    Here’s the bottomline on a “Giglio violation.” If a witness has done something arguably unethical, the party calling that witness has to disclose the info to the court. The court then decides whether the info has to be turned over to the opposing party, so that it can be used for impeachment when the witness in question is called.

    This came up earlier. The easiest way to finesse a Giglio problem is simply to call a different witness who can testify to the SAME THING but who has no Giglio problem.

  81. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/just-3-sentences-michelle-obama-023004192.html

    -George and Laura Bush, if they had any real fight in them, would politely ask the former residents (the Obama’s) of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to give the current residents (Trump’s) the same respect that the Obama’s were given by their predecessors (Bush’s).

  82. Paul says:

    I haven’t seen any disrespect. George Bush has had more pointed critiques of Trump than either Obama.

  83. jason says:

    I knew NYC’s hypocrisy on Trump would catch up with him someday.

    Attacking Flake for giving $100 to a Dem while protecting Trump who gave hundreds of thousands to Democrats proves he is a joke.

    Oh wait, it was ok because “he wanted to build in Manhattan”… I forgot.

  84. jason says:

    Michelle Obama is an unprincipled hack. Nothing new here.

  85. Paul says:

    I’ve heard people complaining that Flake disrespects Trump.
    Corker disrespects Trump.
    Romney disrespects Trump.
    President Bush disrespects Trump.
    President Obama disrespects Trump.

    Maybe it has very little to do with respect or disrespect and has more to do with speaking honestly their concerns.

  86. mnw says:

    Tina

    I posted before I read your GP link.

    I think the link isn’t very useful, because it makes a series of unlikely assumptions: 1) that Storkass is “a critical witness,” & 2) that failure to disclose Giglio information to Flynn’s lawyer “would likely” cause a court to dismiss the case.

    I thing that’s way wrong on both counts. Unless Storkass was the only one at the Flynn interview, he’s not a crucial witness— another agent can testify to what Flynn said.

    Also, Flynn plead guilty. There’s no case for the court to dismiss,

    I DO think that Flynn would now likely be permitted to withdraw his guilty plea* if he wants to do so, and start over.

    * (Robbie thought this was funny, when I posted it before, for some reason known only to God’s own fools,)

  87. Tina says:

    No jd for me, too old

    I just link for the read.

  88. jason says:

    I don’t know anything about Giglio violations, but Glenn Reynolds is a law professor and while leaning libertarian, is not a deadender.

  89. Paul says:

    NYCMike: What in God’s name was wrong with what the former First Lady said. It sounded pretty respectful to me.

  90. mnw says:

    Well, you find interesting stuff!

  91. NYCmike says:

    What definition of “attack” are you using?

    Did you alert the dictionary offices to the changes you made? Please do so, or else Mueller may charge you with a crime.

    I NEVER said Trump was a Republican, nor did I say he was conservative.

    I have been consistently told that Flake IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.

    Their actions, while in office, can be used as evidence to support opinions given.

  92. Tina says:

    It seems that he could withdraw it, i agree with that being the only recourse left perhaps.

  93. Tina says:

    Tucker Carlson
    Tucker Carlson
    @TuckerCarlson
    ·
    44m
    This is how secret police start, when law enforcement agencies decide to do the bidding of politicians, rather than pursue impartial justice on behalf of the public. Let’s nip this nightmare in the bud right now. #FBI #Tucker @FoxNews
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  94. NYCmike says:

    “NYCMike: What in God’s name was wrong with what the former First Lady said. It sounded pretty respectful to me.”

    -The statements are full of snark.

    The Obama’s should just go away, like the Bush’s did, for 8 years. Stay in Bora Bora with all of their altruistic friends.

  95. Tina says:

    Did bush un mute himself.

    I see the only bush commenting now is mini bush that got fired from nbc.

    The other elder bush needs help m

  96. Mr.Vito says:

    Well, mnw, you may have actually done this for a living, but Robbie saw ‘Law and Order’… how can you compete with that?

  97. Paul says:

    96: Tina, is Tucker talking about Trump’s special spy unit that he is floating. I’m not clear what he means.

  98. Tina says:

    Did he laugh at you from the Lido deck, mnw?

    Maybe he spilled his shirley temple.

  99. NYCmike says:

    “George Bush has had more pointed critiques of Trump than either Obama.”

    -He did, and he should stay away as well, after he remained silent for 8 years, nobody asked him to come back…….except for the media……shocker there!

  100. Paul says:

    Tina,
    Did you miss George W. Bush’ speech a couple months ago?

  101. Tina says:

    Oh, you know when drats use ilkegal wiretaps on an i coming administration.

    Or when fbi minions select target people.

  102. jason says:

    Well, Flynn could stop cooperating. That would void the agreement and he might be subject to other charges and if made a deal to protect his son, his son could become vulnerable again. But the lying charge might be compromised.

    I am sure his lawyer will fill him in on his options.

  103. Tina says:

    Bannon: Judge Roy Moore has more honor and integrity in his pinky finger than Mitt Romney has in his entire family.

    I like bannon a lot. 2nd debate.

  104. Tina says:

    Or when peter clears troll one and mrs weiner.

  105. NYCmike says:

    looking back at what I wrote….where exactly did I “attack” Flake?

    I see statements of fact. FACTS are now attacks?

  106. Big Joe says:

    Atlanta mayoral runoff today. Results here:

    http://www.ajc.com/atlanta-runoff-election-results/

    Big Joe

  107. Tina says:

    James Brower ??
    James Brower ??
    @jbro_1776
    ·
    2h
    Scoop: The three other members of the Special Counsel who have also shared Anti-Trump sentiments amongst peers are Michael Dreeben, Jeannie Rhee and Aaron Zebley.

    Muleheads invesrigation is imploding from within.

    They need to indict comedy, peter, sjw, and the other drats

  108. Paul says:

    I’m glad Tucker Carlson is coming out against the Erik Prince secret spy network idea that Trump was floating. Bad idea.

    @TuckerCarlson
    ·
    44m
    This is how secret police start, when law enforcement agencies decide to do the bidding of politicians, rather than pursue impartial justice on behalf of the public. Let’s nip this nightmare in the bud right now. #FBI #Tucker @FoxNews
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  109. Mr.Vito says:

    “Judge Roy Moore has more honor and integrity in his pinky finger than Mitt Romney has in his entire family.”

    Nah.

    If so, he Trump probably shouldn’t have picked his niece to head the RNC.

  110. mnw says:

    jason

    I admire Glenn Reynolds too. But if you follow the link, it isn’t Glenn Reynolds saying that. It’s an unnamed former judge. Reynolds merely adds that he shares the same concern.

    Again, on these facts, Occam & his razor: A court just wants to resolve a Giglio problem fairly and economically— the easy way to do that? Just let Flynn withdraw his plea. Now, Flynn starts over with full knowledge of the new Giglio information about Storkass

    Dismissing a case with prejudice would likely require a showing of far more egregious prosecutorial misconduct than failure to disclose that Storkass’ emails show a bias against Trump. There’s a proportionality problem between the alleged misconduct & the remedy of dismissing the case.

  111. Paul says:

    Tina,
    If you eliminate people with anti-Trump views, you won’t have anyone left.

  112. Mr.Vito says:

    Can someone throw Paul a bone? He reposted because everyone ignored his lame adz.

  113. Mr.Vito says:

    I wonder how many times Strzok was an ‘unnamed source’…

  114. jason says:

    NEVER said Trump was a Republican, nor did I say he was conservative.

    I have been consistently told that Flake IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.”

    LOL, Mr. Hypocrisy strikes again.

    The point is you have always given Trump a pass for funding liberal Democrats and now you are critical of Flake for giving Jones $100.

    That is hypocrisy at its best.

    And while you might disagree with some of his positions, yes Flake a a record as a Republican AND as a conservative.

    You can’t have it both ways, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

  115. Big Joe says:

    Another interesting race being decided today is the Georgia Senate District 6 runoff. In November, there was a jungle primary where the top two finishers were Democrats over the five Republicans. The Republicans received more votes that the Democrats, but the Democrats split the Dem vote evenly and finished first and second. Today, the two Dems face off in a Republican district.

    Results on the same AJC page: http://www.ajc.com/atlanta-runoff-election-results/

    Big Joe

  116. Mr.Vito says:

    “I wonder how many times Strzok was an ‘unnamed source’…”

    If I were the Russians wanting to screw with America, I just would have hired him.

  117. mnw says:

    jason

    If Flynn merely stopped cooperating, it would void his plea agreement, but not his guilty plea, & he’d just be subjected to a considerably harsher sentence.

    The way to do it is for him to ask to withdraw his guilty plea. He and his attys may not want to do that, though.

  118. jason says:

    mnw, the probem is we don’t know what else Mueller has on Flynn.

    If he has a lot, Flynn might not want to “atart over”, right now he is probably not looking at any significant jail time for the one count, probably probation.

    Does he want to gamble that Mueller has now lost leverage on him? None of know the answer.

  119. Mr.Vito says:

    “The point is you have always given Trump a pass for funding liberal Democrats and now you are critical of Flake for giving Jones $100.”

    I thought he said that it wasn’t proof that he wouldn’t act like a conservative once he was President, because he had to pay to play like most big city developers.

  120. Paul says:

    I assume Flynn is fine with the charge as they currently stand. That’s part of his bargain.

  121. jason says:

    ut not his guilty plea, & he’d just be subjected to a considerably harsher sentence.”

    Well that would depend on the judge of course. The judge might be sympathetic to the fact he withdrew the cooperation because the interview was tainted by a biased investigator. Or maybe not.

  122. Tina says:

    Coree, pick up the bong.

  123. Tina says:

    Doj turns over pete the cheats email messages to the house judiciary committee.

  124. jason says:

    ecause he had to pay to play like most big city developers.”

    But that was debunked as a load of crap. Contributing to local Dems, maybe.

    But he donated to national Demss and committees.

    Hypocrisy at its best.

  125. mnw says:

    jason

    That was always sort of my point. I doubt he’d WANT to start over, but that IS the obvious remedy for the new, undisclosed info about Storkass’ bias.

  126. Proud Obamacon says:

    LOL Flynn.. The Looosah that chanted “Lock her up!” and called Islam a cancer is going to be locked up after pleading guilty to lying to the FBI. And the woman who helped prosecute him, Zainab Ahmad, is Muslim

    Can’t make this sh!t up !

  127. Tina says:

    Sean ??
    Sean ??
    @TRats91
    ·
    5h
    Replying to @mitchellvii
    Jay Sekulow just told Hannity there was no request and they think the fake story originated in Germany.

    It originated from the Lido deck.

  128. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A double blow for Robbie tonight. To wit:
    (1) the Alabama Senate poll showing Moore(R) +7
    (2) The GOP flipped a State Senate seat in MA tonight. Robbie has said repeatedly that the GOP is poison at this time.

    And in the final special election of the year, MassGOP finally gets its win – and flips the Middlesex and Worcester state senate seat. Republican Dean Tran has been elected to replace Sen. Jen Flanagan, the party tells me. #mapoli
    https://twitter.com/LaurenDezenski/status/938225148972470272

  129. Tina says:

    Yeah he is looking at 0 months in jail and $0 fine. He shoukd be pardoned asap.

  130. mnw says:

    If he ceased cooperating… ihe’d be looking at… something a lot different.

  131. jason says:

    Trump gave 50 grand for Rahm Emanuel’s run for Chicago Mayor. He 10 grand to Harry Reid’s campaign against deadender Sharron Angle.

    “His Democratic generosity is hardly confined to New York, however. Trump has given more than $250,000 to federal candidates and campaigns, including more than $100,000 to the party’s House and Senate campaign committees.”

    Let’s get real here. Pay for play in Manhattan my ass.

  132. Proud Obamacon says:

    Tina genius, of course his punishment won’t be anywhere near what he was facing, and that is because he PLED GUILTY!

    GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY.

    What time is it? It’s Mueller Time!!

    Most.Corrupt.Administration.Evahhhhhhh

  133. mnw says:

    Sheep

    That newest poll had a s**tload of Republicans in it. I couldn’t find out anything about the polling outfit— 538 doesn’t list it at all. 538 lists appx 150 pollsters but not this tone.

    If the GOP brand was really toxic, Ossoff would be in Congress.

  134. jason says:

    This is all water under the bridge. IMO Trump has a clean slate.

    But NYC’s blatant hypocrisy doesn’t get a pass from me.

  135. Tina says:

    You do realize that flynn served under obumbler?

  136. mnw says:

    sb “not this one”

  137. Tina says:

    He will be pardoned.

  138. Proud Obamacon says:

    LOL Tina . Yeah Obama fired him and warned your Orange Hero not to go anywhere near him.

    But yeah, this is Obama’s fault. Of course LOL

    It’s Mueller Time Yall

    Not.My.President

  139. Mr.Vito says:

    “Let’s get real here.”

    Well, I meant ‘I thought’ as a question. So are you saying my characterization of what Mike said is correct?

    My recollection is that the fight was that Mike said there was no proof that Trump would govern like a liberal, and the the proof presented was that he gave money to Democrats.

    I agree it is strong circumstantial proof, but I would say that it has worked out in Mike’s favor thus far.

  140. Tina says:

    Looks like judicial,watch has the emails from sjw yates and ther drat thrash. I do not know whynsmart people like that used gubment property to write partisan emails.

    Fireable offense.

  141. Tina says:

    He called out your pos obuboerthat he let the jayvee team run wild over te me.

  142. Mr.Vito says:

    “Fireable offense.”

    Didn’t Lerner get promoted?

  143. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 5, 2017 at 8:53 pm
    What definition of “attack” are you using?

    Did you alert the dictionary offices to the changes you made? Please do so, or else Mueller may charge you with a crime.

    I NEVER said Trump was a Republican, nor did I say he was conservative.

    I have been consistently told that Flake IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.

    Their actions, while in office, can be used as evidence to support opinions given.

    To be fair, Mikey, till I schooled you on it, you thought “resign” was a synonym for “retire.”

    You also thought saying God intends women to become pregnant by rape does not mean God intends women to become pregnant by rape.

    I have to say your grasp of the English language is minuscule at best.

  144. Tina says:

    sjw yates got demoted

  145. mnw says:

    Bannon sure makes Trump look like a model of self-restraint and decorous behavior. I don’t know that savaging Romney usceither necessary or helpful to Moore.

    But I don’t think Trump would be POTUS without Bannon. He was the one who doubled and tripled down on everything & foresaw the massive turnout among white middle class voters.

  146. Tina says:

    And the rs failed on lerner. Howdy gowdy punted.

  147. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #138
    Yes, I agree, but the Gravis,FOX and Washington Post polls were too thin with their PID in the GOP’s favor(GOP advantage in all three of these polls was +6.). The best thing to do in this race is to look at the RCP average,which is Moore(R) + 2.3 and the PredictIt market, which has Moore’s odds of winning at 3:1.

  148. Tina says:

    Bannon equals second debate. Game changer when the sex offender looked white and the criminal looked concern.

    Plus trump was on his game.

    Abe lincoln never told a lie, and you lie.

    I will lock you up. She was imeffective.

    Collapsing on 911did not help, and the jebots were in denial.

  149. Tina says:

    Schweikaet predicts moore plus 10. Fwie.

  150. mnw says:

    sb “working class voters”

  151. Proud Obamacon says:

    “He called out your pos obuboerthat he let the jayvee team run wild over te me.”

    Oh my.. Translation to English please? Wow.

  152. Wes says:

    Mnw, Kelly Conway takes some of the credit for that too. Trump was running a listless campaign and looking like a political dead man walking till Conway took over and helped finetune the messaging.

    Steve Bannon is a solipsistic megalomaniac with next to no political knowledge who had one solid strategy and managed to succeed because Trump’s opponent was an elitist with no ability to connect with people.

  153. Tina says:

    The defense counsel has a good chance at getting the illegal free. Apparently the judge may have failed to properly instruct the jurors.

  154. Tina says:

    With that said, the illegal thrash was just indicted on federal charges.

    “A federal grand jury indicted Jose Inez Garcia-Zarate today for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition, and for being an illegally present alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition,” according to a statement released by the Department of Justice.

  155. Wes says:

    Moore isn’t winning by double digits. This is Roy Moore we’re talking about–not exactly a guy Alabamans are exactly crazy for eldctorally.

  156. Tina says:

    One good thing is that sf has to hand over the illegal alien since he is indicted. They cannot hide him.

  157. Wes says:

    Electorally*

  158. mnw says:

    152

    I kind of believe the Moore campaign’s repeated statements that their internal tracking poll shows Moore with a steady +5 lead.

    So color me gullible. Anyway, Moore’s internal pollster is guessing at what the partisan split will be, just like the other pollsters are.

  159. Tina says:

    eted
    Sean Billings
    Sean Billings
    @SeanJBillings
    ·
    2h
    If an endorsement from Jeff Flake can’t put the Dems over the top in Alabama, nothing can.

  160. Tina says:

    Trumps endorsement is good for another few points maybe, but seems reasonable.

  161. Tina says:

    5 seems reasonable.

  162. mnw says:

    Tina 159

    We DO realize that THOSE charges aren’t exactly gonna put him in the electric chair, right?

  163. Tina says:

    Crooked weissman,msally tou are great.

    Sally is not great, she is fired and lost 9-0 in the sc.

  164. Wes says:

    While I will say it was petty of Flake to contribute to Jones, Senators do contribute to opposite-party colleagues sometimes.

    For instance, George McGovern and Russell Long endorsed and contributed to Bob Dole’s 1974 reelection campaign. Six years later, Dole returned the favor to Long by appearing in a campaign commercial for him.

  165. Tina says:

    DEport d for the millionth time.

  166. Tina says:

    At least it will be a few years in jail, mnw.

    He servd 2already and the recent conviction is just not enough. Incompetent prosecution. They liked the illegals., gascon the da is dumb.

  167. Proud Obamacon says:

    Sick… Once again, people on far right websites, and even sites like Faux News, are cheering on the California fires hoping they kill all the liberals.
    Unlike last time, there are more comments calling out the awfulness of this, but sadly not many…
    Some people are just sick.

  168. mnw says:

    Tina

    One of Robbie’s other LOLs was about Andrew McCarthy just being Some Dude who “happened to prosecute the Blind Sheik 20 years ago.”

    That pizzed me off so bad I want to comment:

    The Blind Sheik was the first terrorist bigshot to be tried in an American court. The eyes of the world were on that trial. Robbie seems to think that DOJ drew a name out of a hat to select the lead prosecutor— as if it had been a one-gun bank robbery in Poughkeepsie.

  169. lisab says:

    Islamist suicide plot to assassinate Prime Minister Theresa May foiled

  170. Proud Obamacon says:

    White man’s plot to shoot up a FL Islamic Center foiled too.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-sheriff-man-planned-mass-shooting-at-islamic-center/

  171. NYCmike says:

    “The point is you have always given Trump a pass for funding liberal Democrats”

    -Aside from what Mr. Vito said, which was also correct, Trump did NOT get a pass during the primaries, as I supported/voted for other candidates until he was the last person standing as the candidate to go up against Hillary.

    At that point, I believed the best choice was to ignore the referenced data points about donation$, and choose the candidate who would be least harmful to our nation.

    Trump has surpassed my expectations.

  172. mnw says:

    NYC

    The most terrifying moment of all was when Trump said, “My sister would make a great Supreme Court Justice!”

    My. Blood. Ran. COLD.

  173. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    YES, I AGREE!

    Plenty of times I was ready to bail.

  174. NYCmike says:

    “A double blow for Robbie tonight.”

    -Those internet gals are friendly-types!

  175. lisab says:

    with the holidays here, it is good to remember lisab’s party tips.

    the best parties are a wild mixture. take some corporation presidents, add a few lovely young actresses, a bearded painter, a professional jockey, your visiting friends from brussels, a politician, a hairdresser, and a professor of physics, toss them all together, and try to get them to stop talking long enough to eat! it’s especially important to have all age groups. i’ve never noticed a generation gap. of course i wouldn’t want to have hippies come crawling in with unwashed feet, but all the younger people i know are bright and attractive and have something to say. they also dress like human beings. they love to listen, too. they make wonderful guests. another important party secret is i always add a splash of vodka to everything. nobody ever knows and everybody has a wonderful time.

  176. Tina says:

    What about foam party?

  177. jason says:

    So are you saying my characterization of what Mike said is correct?”

    No, I am not. My point has nothing to do on whether NYC thought or didn’t think that Trump would govern as a conservative. Since he supported Trump it was rather obvious he didn’t think he would govern as a liberal

    Trump contributed a lot of money to liberal Democrats including Schumer and NYC consistently gave him a pass on it, making excuses for it and trying the tired old “well he also gave to Rs” red herring.

    Now he attacks Flake for contributing to a Democrat.

    Pure hypocrisy.

  178. lisab says:

    and don’t forget a festive drink … with two shots of vodka!!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7bo-aeznzY

  179. mnw says:

    WSJ: “Republican Victory [in AL] May Be Costlier Than Defeat”

    Those there are some costs I’ll gladly pay!

  180. jason says:

    are cheering on the California fires hoping they kill all the liberals.”

    Proud Obamacon has a short memory, typical of an undeveloped brain.

    He forgets his hero Michael Moore complained the 9/11 terrorists killed liberals in NYC.

    And I didn’t hear him complain when the University of Tampa professor said hurricane Harvey was karma for Texas voting for the GOP.

  181. Mr.Vito says:

    Oh, what does “gave him a pass on it” mean then? You mean relative to other people?

  182. jason says:

    “A visiting assistant professor at the University of Tampa was fired Tuesday after describing the destruction from Hurricane Harvey as “instant karma” for Texans who voted Republican last year, the school said.

    Kenneth Storey, whose LinkedIn profile says he lives in Winter Park and who also teaches at Hillsborough Community College, ignited online outrage Sunday, amid reports of the destruction in Houston.

    “I dont believe in instant karma but this kinda feels like it for Texas. Hopefully this will help them realize the GOP doesnt care about them,”

  183. jason says:

    Oh, what does “gave him a pass on it” mean then? You mean relative to other people?”

    He defended Trump on the donations, he attacked people who brought it up, made lame excuses for them, and tried to minimize them by introducing a bunch of red herrings.

    I call that “giving him a pass.

    You are free to have your own definition of what “giving him a pass”.

  184. jason says:

    Of what “giving him a pass” means.

  185. Mr.Vito says:

    He didn’t have a problem with the other troll hoping people on this blog would die either.

  186. NYCmike says:

    To clarify:

    The issue about donation$ was in regard to people’s (mainly jason and scooterboy) characterization of Trump as a “liberal DEMOCRAT”.

    There is NOT ONE OTHER “liberal Democrat” who gave ANY MONEY to a Republican, let alone 46% of their political donation$ to Republicans.

  187. Mr.Vito says:

    You are free to have your own definition of what “giving him a pass”.

    All I am doing is asking you what happened… I didnt take sides.

  188. NYCmike says:

    Either way, where is my “attack” on Flake?

    Which comment is an “attack”?

  189. jason says:

    WSJ: “Republican Victory [in AL] May Be Costlier Than Defeat”

    Those there are some costs I’ll gladly pay!”

    Actually this is a valid point, the GOP will pay a price, Moore will be the gift that keeps on giving for Dems all the way to the 2018 election.

    But losing will empower the Dems too.

    There really aren’t any good outcomes here.

  190. jason says:

    “either way, where is my “attack” on Flake?”

    You are not critical of Flake for contributing to Jones?

    Okayyyy….

  191. Mr.Vito says:

    Well it sounds like you guys have been talking past each other for months to me…

  192. NYCmike says:

    Trump’s political donation$ were NOT “given a pass” by me. I did give reasons for why he made donation$ to both parties, and those are still legitimate reasons.

    During the primary, I did NOT support Trump, and one of the reasons for my non-support was his association with Democratic politicians.

    Once he won the primary, that affiliation was one data point against him, but it was minor compared to the data points against his opponent.

  193. Mr.Vito says:

    If Moore wins, put him in front of the ethics panel with Franken and they can resign together when the evidence is combed over.

    Problem solved.

  194. jason says:

    I have to say your grasp of the English language is minuscule at best.”

    So wes, you are giving NYC a pass?

  195. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    I believe Flake is NOT VERY CONSERVATIVE. Others say he is a strong conservative.

    The donation to Jones, at this time, speaks to his true nature.

    That is NOT an attack. It is an observation.

  196. Mr.Vito says:

    Do you concede that Trump’s donations speak to his true nature?

  197. NYCmike says:

    “If Moore wins, put him in front of the ethics panel with Franken and they can resign together when the evidence is combed over.

    Problem solved.”

    -I have been saying this for weeks. Common sense.
    1) Elect the Republican.
    2) Determine innocence/guilt.
    3a) If innocent, he stays. 3b) If guilty, he goes.
    4a) Normal business 4b) Special election.

  198. jason says:

    Trump’s political donation$ were NOT “given a pass” by me. ”

    BS, baldfaced lie. Complete, utter falsehood.

    You defended him on the donations every time he was attacked for them.

    AFTER the primaries.

    And I can see you are doing the usual war with yourself, bringing up “association” and “affiliation” which were not part of the conversation.

    I was talking about DONATIONS, and you defended Trump on the donations to liberal Dems and to Dem committees tooth and nail for months here.

    You can’t wiggle out of it with “affiliation” and “association” crap.

    GFY.

  199. jason says:

    That is NOT an attack. It is an observation.”

    LOL

  200. NYCmike says:

    “Do you concede that Trump’s donations speak to his true nature?”

    -Mr Vito,

    At the time he made them, YES. He was an opportunist, who sought advantage and favors at every opportunity.

    NOW, he has NOT made donations to Democrats, and he has governed mainly as a conservative.

    I do NOT trust him, but then again, I don’t really trust ANY OF THEM.

  201. jason says:

    My observation is you are a pathological liar.

    That is not an attack, its an observation of your true nature.

  202. NYCmike says:

    “My observation is you are a pathological liar.”

    -Thankfully, your record of “observation” is abysmal.

  203. jason says:

    He was an opportunist, who sought advantage and favors at every opportunity.”

    Still making excuses and giving him a pass, I see.

  204. NYCmike says:

    I NEVER denied Trump made those donation$.

    I disputed him being characterized as a “liberal DEmocrat” because of them.

  205. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    You were wrong about him last year. I was right.

    Deal with it.

    Cheers, and many regards.

  206. Mr.Vito says:

    “1) Elect the Republican.”

    That isn’t part of what I’m saying… I said ‘if’ he is elected. I am not going to judge anyone who honestly approaches this as a moral dilemma, just as I didn’t in the Presidential election. I’m glad I don’t have a vote.

  207. jason says:

    NOW, he has NOT made donations to Democrats,”

    Wow, so after he was elected President he has not given money to Dems?

    Really, this is your defense for decades of contributions to Chuck Schumer?

    Keep digging.

  208. jason says:

    You were wrong about him last year. I was right.”

    Hello? Facts not in evidence.

  209. jason says:

    I NEVER denied Trump made those donation$.”

    Great straw argument, but nobody said you denied them.

    Which would have been stupid, they are part of the public record.

    What I said is you defended them and gave him a pass on them.

    Keep trying.

  210. Mr.Vito says:

    What concession from Mike are you looking for exactly? That Trump is a liberal Democrat?

    Because I don’t think he is ideological… I think he hasn’t really thought about a belief system for the entirety of his life, until maybe after he won the nomination for president.

  211. lisab says:

    Danny Masterson Fired From Netflix’s ‘The Ranch’ Amid Rape Allegations

  212. lisab says:

    The three other members of the Special Counsel who have also shared Anti-Trump sentiments amongst peers are Michael Dreeben, Jeannie Rhee and Aaron Zebley.

  213. jason says:

    What concession from Mike are you looking for exactly? That Trump is a liberal Democrat?”

    Not the issue. No concession is necessary.

    I merely made the point that he gave a Trump a pass on donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrats for decades while attacking Flake for giving a $100 donation to Jones.

    Hypocrisy.

    In response, he says things like “I never denied Trump made those donations” as if anyone said he did.

  214. jason says:

    ecause I don’t think he is ideological… I think he hasn’t really thought about a belief system for the entirety of his life, until maybe after he won the nomination for president.”

    I agree he is not profoundly ideological, although he has made some comments in the past that were pretty pro big government, like universal HC paid for by the government as an entitlement, Dems are best for the economy, and debt doesn’t matter just keep printing money.

    I think his liberal tendencies are kept in check by the political necessities of the moment.

  215. Big Joe says:

    Exciting mayoral runoff in the ATL

    Keisha Lance Bottoms 46,464 50%
    Mary Norwood 45,705 50%

    100% Reporting 172 of 172 Precincts

    Interesting tidbit, Norwood lost in a runoff in 2010 by approx 700 votes. She currently trails by that same amount.

    Big Joe

  216. MichiganGuy says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:02 am

    I merely made the point that he gave a Trump a pass on donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrats for decades while attacking Flake for giving a $100 donation to Jones.
    ————————————————————————————————–
    NYCmike, just tell Jason that Trump until recently was a democrat so he gave money to democratic politicians. Wow, what a surprise. lol Corker is a Republican Senator. A Republican Senator giving money to a democrat candidate is strange to say the least.

  217. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/cia-director-pompeo-trumps-tweeting-actually-helped-us/

    -Robbie, Pompeo is calling, and he asked “Why didn’t you link this story?”.

  218. MichiganGuy says:

    The Federal Election Commission (FEC) has been asked to investigate a super PAC that is spending large amounts against Republican senate candidate Roy Moore, but is not showing any donations.
    Highway 31, a super PAC backing Democratic candidate Doug Jones and the largest independent spender in the Alabama Senate race, has spent millions attacking Moore. But unlike other campaign spenders, this particular group refuses to disclose who the donors are behind its multi-million ad buy before Election Day.
    On Monday, Baldwin County businessman Kevin Spriggs asked the FEC to investigate the mysterious super PAC.
    “Mr. Commissioner – As a resident of Alabama, I have noticed a Super PAC titled ‘Highway 31’ running numerous campaign commercials in the Mobile. Ala. television market, including an ad during the SEC Championship football game,” Spriggs said in his request to FEC Chairman Mathew Peterson. “A search of the FEC website shows hundreds of thousands of dollars of expenses without any donors. I also checked the irs.gov website for forms 8871 and 8872 required to be filed by 527 organizations. No filings are shown for donors and expenses. If donations and expenses exceed $50,000, the IRS requires an electronic filing of form 8872.”
    Spriggs continued, “I am asking you to please investigate this matter as it appears that this Highway 31 organization is evading campaign finance law by not disclosing their donors.”

    https://altoday.com/archives/20028-super-pac-attacking-roy-moore-wont-disclose-donors-fec-asked-to-investigate

    —————————————————————————————————
    Hmmm could it be, possibly, George Soros

  219. MichiganGuy says:

    ANOTHER Mueller deputy caught sending anti-Trump message: Top prosecutor told Obama holdover who refused to defend travel ban that ‘I am so proud’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5149731/amp/ANOTHER-Mueller-deputy-caught-sending-anti-Trump-messages.html

  220. Phil says:

    Remember when liberals were yuking it up about Mike Pence refusing to have lunch or dinner alone with women who were not his wife?

    I do.

  221. DW says:

    225 – he sounds genius in light of this….

    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  222. Trump says:

    “Phil says:
    December 6, 2017 at 7:22 am

    Remember when liberals were yuking it up about Mike Pence refusing to have lunch or dinner alone with women who were not his wife?

    I do.”

    Liberals love sexual assault. They are good at it.

  223. Trump says:

    Plus some conservatives/Republicans too, of course.

  224. mnw says:

    The RRH moderators have now dropped the word “alleged,” & they are simply referring to “child molester Moore” and “child predator Moore.” Dropping “alleged” adds strength and power to their rhetorical punch. Why complicate things & weaken a perfectly good argument? If I point this out, I fear I’ll get banned again, so the hell with it, but it sux.

    The moderators also routinely savage Trump in the same ways the Daily Beast does.

  225. Chicon says:

    229 – same deal with most at Redstate. Reflexive hatred of Trump that interferes with logical thought.

  226. mnw says:

    jason 194

    I wish to God now that Strange had won the primary. I didn’t pay any attention to it at the time, because Alabama. I didn’t think it made much difference who won. Boy was I wrong.

    That said, I can’t see how the DEMs get any benefit from a Moore win, so long as Franken is there. What are they going to do? Parse the difference between the alleged misconduct of Moore & Franken*, & then say “Moore Bad, Franken good!”?

    * Franken admitted it, so it isn’t alleged any longer.

  227. mnw says:

    Chicon!

    Number 10 Brayden Schenn put three behind Carey Price last night.

  228. Chicon says:

    Schenn has been a great pickup for the Blues, eh? Put 3 past the “world’s greatest goalie”, no less.

  229. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie is sad again. The Donald’s approval in the latest POLITICO Poll is 45%.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-approval-rating-jumps-to-45-percent-highest-since-september/article/2642685

    #232-mnw
    I agree with you 110%. Also, William J. Clinton is always an oldie goldie on this matter.

  230. Chicon says:

    Robbie will be here later; he’s got a resistance meeting this morning.

  231. Bitterlaw says:

    Time’s People of the Year

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/12/06/times-person-year-silence-breakers-speaking-out-against-sexual-harassment/926184001/

    Trump was second. I don’t think it is a bad choice. It could have been worse.

  232. Bitterlaw says:

    At least Time went with people who took down John Conyers and Harvey Weinstein. Who knew Time was so right wing?

  233. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – Ex-Flyers always help their new team.

  234. Chicon says:

    Bitter, Time is likely to be owned by the Koch brothers soon. They’ll be off Robbie’s approved list.

  235. Chicon says:

    238 – unless they cone to Chicago. Kimmo Timmonen for example, was a pylon

  236. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi – Richards and Hartnell went to the Kings and won the Stanley Cup.

    Philadelphia teams make other teams better. Patrick Chung sucked with the Eagles. He has a SB ring with the Patriots.

    Byron Maxwell sucked with the Eagles. He looked like a Hall of Fame player with the Seahawks this weekend.

  237. mnw says:

    The Hockey News: “Schenn Acquisition Looking Like Best Trade of the Season So Far”

    Indeed. Bluz got rid of a player who hadn’t worked out at all (Lehtera) & gave up the #27 draft pick.

    Imo, Schenn is the reason for the Bluz’ regular season success to date. As a bonus, Schenn has made Tarasenko a much greater threat.

  238. MichiganGuy says:

    MSNBC has cut ties with Sam Seder over a rape joke the left-wing activist tweeted in 2009, according to TheWrap.

    A source told TheWrap that “internally there was disgust over the tweet,” and so the decision was made not to renew Seder’s contract as a contributor. Seder’s current contract expires in February, but starting immediately, he will no longer be seen on the left-wing network.

    “Don’t care re Polanski, but I hope if my daughter is ever raped it is by an older truly talented man w/a great sense of mise en scene,” Seder tweeted in 2009.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/12/05/hoisted-by-his-own-petard-msnbc-cut-ties-with-sam-seder-for-2009-rape-joke/amp/

  239. mnw says:

    He’s at 45 in one of the others, Drudge notes.

  240. mnw says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Trump’s JA about where it was when he was elected?

  241. jason says:

    I wish to God now that Strange had won the primary. I didn’t pay any attention to it at the time, because Alabama. I didn’t think it made much difference who won. Boy was I wrong.”

    Well, at least you admit it. I warned from the beginning that this was stupid politics. Useful idiots like NYC still think it was a great idea to primary a conservative Trump supported sitting senator like Strange who would have won the GE by at least 30 points.

  242. Redmen4ever says:

    Trump’s Job Approval is now about where his favorable/unfavorable rating was when he was elected.

    If you look his Job Approval upon taking office, which was about break even, as his “honeymoon period,” then everything comes together.

  243. jason says:

    Exciting mayoral runoff in the ATL”

    Good oxymoron Big Joe!

  244. dblaikie says:

    Any poll on Trump’s Job Approval is suspect because a ton of Trump supporters hate polls and won’t answer them and another ton are embarrassed to admit they support him and they tell the pollsters something else.

  245. jason says:

    “NYCmike, just tell Jason that Trump until recently was a democrat so he gave money to democratic politicians. Wow, what a surprise. lol Corker is a Republican Senator. A Republican Senator giving money to a democrat candidate is strange to say the least.

    Heh, MG, NYC hasn’t even admitted that yet….so that is wrong.

    It’s Flake, not Corker so that is wrong.

    Trump continued giving money to Democrats as a Republican too, so that is wrong.

    But outside of those minor errors, good post!

  246. jason says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Trump’s JA about where it was when he was elected?”

    Last time I said that the Jebbot had a meltdown.

    But it’s true, Trump has lost very little support among the people who voted for him.

    That goes against Wobbie’s narrative, so he is forced to desperately start cherry picking polls. Hilarious.

  247. mnw says:

    db

    That’s the “shy Tory” factor, & it has been much discussed here. A strong argument can be made either way for whether it’s real.

    Iran’s President says Iran “will not tolerate” Trump’s J’lem decision. Well, maybe he’ll learn to like it.

  248. Trump says:

    “mnw says:
    December 6, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Trump’s JA about where it was when he was elected?”

    It’s not the s ame as JA, but his favorability on Nov 8 (per exits) was 38%.

    If JA and favaorability are taken to be equivalent, Trump is cruising to re-election.

  249. Trump says:

    What’s the difference between Trump and Flake donating to Dems?

    One’s a winner, the other’s a loser.

    Politics is the art of gaining power, in case we forget.

  250. Robbie says:

    So has NYCmike shown up to cheer his boy Steve Bannon’s disgusting attacks on Mitt Romney’s religion, family, and patriotism?

    Bannon is the spiritual leader of “send a message” deadender crowd that NYCmike loves.

  251. Paul says:

    “Politics is the art of gaining power, in case we forget.”

    Silly people like Flake think it has something to do with morality, ethics and doing the right thing for the nation.

  252. mnw says:

    A Politico article today describes Joe Donnelly (D-IN) as “America’s most vulnerable senator.”

    Not even close, imo. Most vulnerable, in order of likelihood of defeat:

    1) Nelson (D-FL)

    2) Heitkamp (D-SD)

    3) McCaskill (D-MO)

    4) Heller (R-NV)*

    5) Donnelly (D-IN)

    6) Tester (D-MT)

    7) Baldwin (D-WI)

    *if Heller survives the primary

    Among the reasons I don’t rate Donnelly higher is, two conservative GOP congressmen are carving each other to ribbons in the IN GOP primary. If 2 guys scream, “You’re an adzwhole!” long enough, voters may decide they’re both right. Plus, they’re spending all their $$ on the primary. Sad for GOP.

    I put Baldwin on the list simply because she’s drawn a really impressive GOP opponent in Nicholson.

  253. jason says:

    “Dsgusting attacks on Mitt Romney’s religion, family, and patriotism?”

    LOL, this wins Chutzpah Award of the Year

    Wobbie was here attacking Romney’s family, character, career, values, you name it for a whole year or more. No lie, innuendo or scurrilous attack on Romney was too over the top.

    What a scumbag clown.

  254. jason says:

    “..morality, ethics and doing the right thing for the nation”

    And you guys ran Hillary for President?

    Wow, Paul wants to compete for the Chutzpah award?

    Sorry, its taken, Wobbie owns it.

    Good luck in 2018.

  255. Mr.Vito says:

    “Liberals love sexual assault. They are good at it.”

    Cokie Roberts said everyone in the press knew you couldn’t get in an elevator with Conyers.

    Do you think they would have protected any republican?

  256. Cash Cow TM says:

    More than $800 million

    NOVEMBER 30, 2017
    Record-breaking amount of money that California raised in its most recent auction for cap-and-trade permits, which companies are required to buy to release greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. The money is then used for projects and programs meant to reduce emissions.

    Source: the Los Angeles Times
    #######################################

    MONEY TO BE MADE WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
    BIG SHAKEDOWN OF BUSINESSES!

  257. mnw says:

    No, Robbie & Paul have serious competition! The poster who can’t spell or write coherently but who calls all the OTHER posters “morons.” I refer, of course, to the Kindergarden (sic) Kid.

  258. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cap and Trade….baloney.

    Maybe cake makers who do not want to bake cakes for gays should get legislators to pass Cap and Trade like legislation so if a cake baker wanted to opt out of providing service they could if they pay a fee.

    Fee would be used to support, advocate and advance LGBT agenda?

  259. Tina says:

    Any muh russian uh muh obstruction news?

  260. MichiganGuy says:

    Republican leaders in Washington are coming to grips with the possibility — perhaps even probability — that Alabama’s Roy Moore will win his special election next Tuesday and join them in the capital.

    Looking past allegations of sexual misconduct with Alabama teenagers, President Donald Trump formally endorsed Moore, and the Republican National Committee quickly followed suit, transferring $170,000 to the Alabama Republican Party to bolster Moore’s candidacy.

    https://articles.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/republican_party_gives_170000.amp

  261. Cash Cow TM says:

    Can cake maker refuse to make a cake IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE?

    We would like you to write on the top of the cake
    –a big pe.nis and a va.gina?
    –let’s all go out and kill a cop?
    –Picture of DJT sucking a “pickle”?
    –some child s.e.x. p.0rn?
    –everybody needs a Black slave?
    –eradicate the J.ews?

    Anything else that would undermine acceptable social values or be repulsive to some group, or repulsive to the cake decorator?

    DO WE HAVE ANY SOCIAL VALUES?

  262. jason says:

    The RNC gave $170k?

    What will that buy, a 30 second ad running at 3AM?

  263. jason says:

    What’s the difference between Trump and Flake donating to Dems?”

    None.

    Next question?

  264. Wobbles says:

    Any muh russian uh muh obstruction news?”

    I am checking my reliable sources at DKos, HuffPost and Socialist Worker’s Daily.

    Will let you know.

  265. JC says:

    mnw says:
    December 6, 2017 at 10:55 am

    A Politico article today describes Joe Donnelly (D-IN) as “America’s most vulnerable senator.”

    Not even close, imo. Most vulnerable, in order of likelihood of defeat:

    1) Nelson (D-FL)

    2) Heitkamp (D-SD)

    3) McCaskill (D-MO)

    4) Heller (R-NV)*

    5) Donnelly (D-IN)

    6) Tester (D-MT)

    7) Baldwin (D-WI)
    ————————

    Good list but I’d switch Nelson with McCaskill.

  266. Wobbles says:

    Do you think they would have protected any republican?”

    Yes, of course they would have.

    Look, this MSM leftwing bias thing is a figment of your collective imaginations here at HHR.

    I have been assured personally by Ezra Klein that there is absolutely no bias at all in the MSM.

  267. Redmen4ever says:

    Not only did Trump contribute to Dems, so did Kuchner and so did Mnuchin. That’s what businessmen do.

    Why would Trump contribute to the mayor of Chicago? Trump Chicago didn’t need to be harassed.

    Let’s not be naive.

  268. Robbie says:

    The Democrats played the Franken episode very smartly. They waited until Donnie Dinbat went all-in for pedophile Roy Moore and then called for Franken to resign. Rightly or wrongly, it will give the appearance the Democrats are taking sexual harassment seriously while Trump and the Republicans are just craven charlatans hoping to win a Senate race.

    I know, I know. NYCmike will say Moore hasn’t had a chance to defend himself so we all need to pretend he’s a good man.

  269. mnw says:

    4 women DEM senators just issued a joint statement calling on Franken to resign, although not Klochubar (sp?).

    My concern is that they may get Franken to quit before Moore arrives, which would certainly improve their “Republican anti-women culture of corruption” argument a lot.

  270. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:43 am
    Any muh russian uh muh obstruction news?”
    I am checking my reliable sources at DKos, HuffPost and Socialist Worker’s Daily.
    Will let you know.

    – I see HHR’s biggest fraud, Jason Trump, is hiding behind parody screen names again.

    I guess if it ever became clear that I was a total fraud who shifted beliefs simply because someone had a R next to their name, I might hide behind a fake name from time to time as well.

  271. jason says:

    I think McCaskill is the most vulnerable since we already know she has a strong opponent in a state that has been trending R.

    I think Baldwin will be tough to beat even with a good opponent in a unfavorable year for Rs (if that will be the case).

    Heitkamp and Tester and Donnelly will depend on having non-deadender candidates face them.

    In AZ, I think only McSally could win and in NV Heller could probably win if he survives the primary.

    Who is going to run against Nelson?

  272. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:05 am
    “Dsgusting attacks on Mitt Romney’s religion, family, and patriotism?”
    LOL, this wins Chutzpah Award of the Year
    Wobbie was here attacking Romney’s family, character, career, values, you name it for a whole year or more. No lie, innuendo or scurrilous attack on Romney was too over the top.
    What a scumbag clown.

    – Scumbag clown is the jerk (Donald Trump) you continue to support simply because he has a R next to his name. You’re such a fraud.

  273. Paul says:

    Why don’t we hear much about Texas Congressman Farenthold (R) who used tax payer money to pay a sexual harassment settlement.

    I would think if the MSM was as biased as you guys say that they’d be all over that one.

    Plus the guy looks really creepy.

  274. JC says:

    Obama’s absolute floor for approval rating was 40% and his absolute ceiling was 50%. Obviously there were brief moments when it dipped passed the lines, but generally his approval would be guaranteed to be in this range. What helped Obama stay afloat was the absolute loyalty of the democratic party.

    I think Trump’s absolute floor is 35% and his absolute ceiling is 45%. Again, there will be brief moments when he crosses those lines, but his approval will stay in that ball park. Trump doesn’t have the benefit of absolute loyalty of his entire party like Obama did. The GOP has a lot of divided factions.

    To be honest, I think for Trump anywhere in the 40s is good news for him. I also think that he is a unique case in terms of his approval and people’s willingness to vote for him.

  275. Mr.Vito says:

    “4 women DEM senators just issued a joint statement calling on Franken to resign”

    There was another accuser today, and it was an aide.

  276. jason says:

    nd then called for Franken to resign. Rightly or wrongly, it will give the appearance the Democrats are taking sexual harassment seriously”

    Zzzzzzz….

    Garbage.

    IF he resigned the Dems could claim some moral superiority. “Calling for him to resign” is BS.

    It actually does the opposite, it paints Dems as the hypocrites they are, always with a double standard.

  277. Robbie says:

    Redmen4ever says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:49 am
    Not only did Trump contribute to Dems, so did Kuchner and so did Mnuchin. That’s what businessmen do.
    Why would Trump contribute to the mayor of Chicago? Trump Chicago didn’t need to be harassed.
    Let’s not be naive.

    – Watching the Trumpers twist and contort to defend Dear Leader has really been humorous and enlightening.

    If any other Republican had contributed to a Democrat, the Trumpers would shout “Crucify him!”. But Trump fights or something.

  278. JC says:

    “What helped Obama stay afloat was the absolute loyalty of the democratic party.”

    I should have also added the media, who covered for his weak @ss economy and bad policies.

    Obama spent most of his second term in the low 40s. Imagine if he didn’t have a glorifying press and the media industrial complex shilling for him.

    Hell, imagine if they treated him the way they treat Trump.

  279. jason says:

    you continue to support simply because he has a R next to his name”

    I love this.

    So stupid but Wobbie keeps repeating it.

    Show me one post where I even said Trump is a Republican.

    Just one, surely you can find it.

  280. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:54 am
    nd then called for Franken to resign. Rightly or wrongly, it will give the appearance the Democrats are taking sexual harassment seriously”
    Zzzzzzz….
    Garbage.
    IF he resigned the Dems could claim some moral superiority. “Calling for him to resign” is BS.
    It actually does the opposite, it paints Dems as the hypocrites they are, always with a double standard.

    – LOL. You really think Franken is going to survive this? My guess is he’ll be gone by the end of the week.

  281. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:56 am
    you continue to support simply because he has a R next to his name”
    I love this.
    So stupid but Wobbie keeps repeating it.
    Show me one post where I even said Trump is a Republican.
    Just one, surely you can find it.

    – Oh yeah. I forget to throw in your worthless caveat that you don’t like his trade position. How brave of you.

  282. Mr.Vito says:

    “Show me one post where I even said Trump is a Republican.”

    More to the point, he also had an R next to his name when you bashed him relentlessly for a year up to the general election.

  283. mnw says:

    Gov. Scott!

    I don’t put my very own Sen. McC as #1, because she’s running even with Hawley right now. That’s still a bad place for an incumbent to start, considering her name recognition is so much greater.

    Several polls have shown Scott leading Nelson.

    Polls show the likely DEM nominee (a woman congressman) in NV leading Heller, and Heller’s primary opponent leading Heller also.

    I don’t think McSally can win the AZ primary against Ward, & polls show all GOP candidates behind Sinesma ( however she spells it).

  284. Bitterlaw says:

    Obama spent most of his second term in the low 40s. Imagine if he didn’t have a glorifying press and the media industrial complex shilling for him.

    I imagined it. He would have completed his second term.

  285. Mr.Vito says:

    I suppose there had to be at least one person on earth who thinks liberals have handled sexual harrassment “smartly”

  286. Bitterlaw says:

    I support the right of a baker to not bake a cake if it offends his or her own religious views.

    I also support the right of another baker to open a shop right across the street of the first baker and call it “Offensive Bakery” and cater to only customers who offend somebody’s religious views.

    Let the market sort it out.

  287. Waingro says:

    I agree with Jason that the Dems need Franken to actually resign in order to really capitalize on this obvious political strategy. But I also think it’s going to happen.

    Schumer probably already had someone call Franken up to offer him something to land on his feet if he quits. He’ll go away quietly within the next week.

  288. JC says:

    Robbie’s back already?

    I could have sworn he said that after the now retracted ABC Ross report, that surely this was the end of Blumpf!

    I guess we’ll have to wait for next time.

    Next time, for sure.

  289. jason says:

    Obama spent most of his second term in the low 40s”

    And for most of his first term too. His average approval for his entire Presidency was 47.9% but that factors in that he had 63% average the first quarter and 56% average the last quarter.

    GWB average approval was a similar 49.4%.

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/202742/obama-averages-job-approval-president.aspx

  290. Mr.Vito says:

    “Let the market sort it out.”

    Well, the court already decided the government can force you to buy something, so perhaps they will decide they can force you to provide a service.

  291. jason says:

    More to the point, he also had an R next to his name when you bashed him relentlessly for a year up to the general election.”

    Yeah, that R is really important to me when he comes to Trump.

    No wonder Wobbie is viewed as a clown here.

  292. Tina says:

    Drats run ads c9mpari g roy moore to dylan roof, the alleged mass murderer.

    Stupid imo.

    This is slipping away from them. Allred was caught again with forged documents that look even worse than the first one.

  293. Waingro says:

    #295, oh man, did Robbie fall for that?

  294. MichiganGuy says:

    Six female Democratic senators call for Al Franken to resign after a sixth woman accuses him of unwanted advances

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/06/six-female-democratic-senators-call-for-al-franken-to-resign-after-sixth-woman-accuses-him-unwanted-advances.amp.html

    —————————————————————————
    Yeah,Franken is gone.

  295. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/johncardillo/status/938418308054945792/photo/1

    Even radical eric holder admits in a doj memo that fbi chief serves at the will of the president. President can hire and fire.

    Basic civis that the loons fail to understand.

  296. jason says:

    Maybe Franken does not intend to cooperate with Wobbie…

    In response to the latest allegation, Franken said: “This allegation is categorically not true and the idea that I would claim this as my right as an entertainer is preposterous. I look forward to fully cooperating with the ongoing ethics committee investigation.”

  297. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    Jeannie Rhee was hired in June by Mueller. Weeks before joining Mueller’s special counsel, Rhee was working as a personal attorney of former Obama Deputy Natl Sec Advisor Ben Rhodes. She served as Rhodes pt of contact w/ House Intel Committee in its investigation into Russia.

    Paging Rosenstein or sessions shut this sheot down

  298. jason says:

    If Franken does resign that will help Jones.

    But at first glance he doesn’t intend to resign.

    Let’s see.

  299. mnw says:

    I doubt Alabama voters would be influenced by what happens to Franken in the next 5 days. I agree with whoever said that Franken is going to try to tough this out for awhile— certainly for more than 5 days— if Schumer calls on him to go, that might speed things up, though.

    The DEMs don’t want a vacancy right now, because the tax bill is acomin’.

  300. Phil says:

    304

    Well, Tina, just more evidence this “independent investigation” is an absolute joke.

  301. Mr.Vito says:

    FOX headline: Women of Senate lead call for Franken to quit as number of sex allegations snowballs

    Pictured: four dem women

    Question: Did none of Capito, Murkowski, Ernst, Collins, or Fischer call for him to quit?

  302. Waingro says:

    Well looks like it will take less than 24 hours. Gonzo.

    “NEW – Franken going to be making an announcement tomorrow”

    https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/938459766552227840

  303. Waingro says:

    The Dem strategy to kick Franken out is more about LONG term and the midterms so they can take moral high ground and tie every race to Moore and GOP’s “acceptance of child molesters blah blah blah.”

    It’s a good strategy to be honest. If they get Jones across the finish line and pick up deep red seat for a few years that’s gravy.

  304. jason says:

    I doubt Alabama voters would be influenced by what happens to Franken in the next 5 days.”

    Not so sure.

  305. mnw says:

    They are now reporting he’ll resign.

  306. Tina says:

    Franken stole that seat btw to begin with. Voter fraud and the r never fought back.

  307. Todd McCain says:

    I believe Moore is ahead 5-6 points at this stage.

    Maybe it helps Jones but I don’t think it’s enough.

  308. jason says:

    “To be honest, I think for Trump anywhere in the 40s is good news for him.”

    I tend to agree.

    Considering the relentless and unfair MSM onslaught he faces on a daily basis, an approval rating in the low 40’s is actually pretty remarkable.

    Obama was mired in the low 40’s for most of his presidency even WITH the fawning MSM running interference for him, so Trump is demonstrating he is very resilient.

    Keeping his base virtually intact is huge for him

  309. mnw says:

    I guess the Guv can name a successor almost immediately. I had a brain freeze & was thinking there would be a special election.

  310. jason says:

    Of course, Moore has not admitted to any wrongdoing as Franken has, so that is in his favor.

    Still, I think he would have preferred Franken resigned next week.

  311. MichiganGuy says:

    FOX 5 has confirmed that multi-agency law enforcement activity is taking place in the D.C. region Wednesday morning.

    http://amp.fox5dc.com/news/multi-agency-law-enforcement-activity-reported-in-dc-area
    —————————————————————————
    I hope Sen.Franken didn’t go bonkers.

  312. Mr.Vito says:

    “A popular donut shop in Portland, Maine was forced to apologize to the community after they offended customers by working with the Salvation Army to provide Christmas to a needy family.

    The Holy Donut had asked customers to help them with a gift drive for a local family with five children. Those customers who participated received free donuts.

    The donut shop reached out to the Salvation Army to find the family in need, the Press-Herald reports.

    Instead of saluting the donut shop for doing a good deed – an online mob stormed their Facebook page. Click here to read the comments.

    Many accused the Salvation Army of being anti-gay and discriminating against the LGBT community.”

    https://www.toddstarnes.com/faith/donut-shop-faces-leftist-fury-for-helping-christmas-charity/

    As long as they keep doing this kind of thing, it won’t matter what their “strategy” is in the long run.

  313. HHR Rumormonger says:

    Rumor has it the operation is to bust McCauliffe…

  314. jason says:

    So Dayton get to appoint another moonbat?

  315. mnw says:

    So Franken is up in 2020. I wonder if the guv’s appointee serves until then, or if there’s a special election prior to that?

    MN has been ninblin’ at the redpill of late.

  316. Todd McCain says:

    I believe there is a special election in 2018.

  317. mnw says:

    The DC area police operation is anti-gang, according to several reports.

  318. Robbie says:

    Brit Hume?
    @brithume

    Republicans should now pray that either Franken refuses to quit or Moore loses. Otherwise, a hot mess for the party as Moore becomes their hood ornament.

  319. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold Prediction:

    The Jones campaign will have an ad ready to roll if Franken resigns:

    “The Democrats forced a predator out of the Senate. Do you want to send another one to take his place?”

    “I’m Doug Jones and I approve this message.”

  320. Robbie says:

    JC says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:04 pm
    Robbie’s back already?
    I could have sworn he said that after the now retracted ABC Ross report, that surely this was the end of Blumpf!
    I guess we’ll have to wait for next time.
    Next time, for sure.

    – I know you are an absolute idiot, but I never said any such thing.

    I wrote the ABC report IF TRUE would be a bombshell. It wasn’t true so no bombshell.

    See how this work you soulless Trump buffoon.

  321. HHR Rumormonger says:

    Rumor has it the operation is to bust McCauliffe…”

    Nnw says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    The DC area police operation is anti-gang, according to several reports.”

    Bingo!

  322. Mr.Vito says:

    I concur. Robbie did say ‘if’.

    He interrupted a cruise to tell us what was obvious to anyone, which was what he was being ridiculed for.

    I hear a monk also broke his vow of silence to bring us that important news.

    A friend also told me that ‘many Bothans died to bring us this information.’

  323. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:59 am
    “Show me one post where I even said Trump is a Republican.”
    More to the point, he also had an R next to his name when you bashed him relentlessly for a year up to the general election.

    – And then Trump won and Jason changed his tune. Now, he defends Trump and the only reason is Trump has a R next to his name. If Trump had a D next to his name, Jason’s view on him, like the vast majority of this comment section, would be completely opposite.

  324. MichiganGuy says:

    Terry Crews Sues Agent Adam Venit For Sexual Assault

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/terry-crews-sues-agent-adam-venit-for-sexual-assault/#EbWemPu77KezKUld.99

    —————————————————————–
    Add Adam Venit to the list

  325. Mr.Vito says:

    “Now, he defends Trump and the only reason is Trump has a R next to his name.”

    Moore also has an R next to his name, and jason hates him.

  326. jason says:

    I wrote the ABC report IF TRUE would be a bombshell. It wasn’t true so no bombshell.”

    LOL

    What a lying scumbag.

    You believed it hook, line and sinker, that is why you giddily showed up here.

    What a horrible disappointment it must of been for you.

    Well, you can get back to finding Jeb’s real killer.

  327. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:07 pm
    More to the point, he also had an R next to his name when you bashed him relentlessly for a year up to the general election.”
    Yeah, that R is really important to me when he comes to Trump.
    No wonder Wobbie is viewed as a clown here.

    – I’m being consistent. You’re being a fraud and a hypocrite. I thought Trump was unqualified when he was a candidate and I believe he remains unqualified now that he is president.

    You, on the other hand, changed your tune about him the moment he was elected and have never wavered since.

  328. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:07 pm
    #295, oh man, did Robbie fall for that?

    – No, I did not fall for that, but I wouldn’t expect an idiot like JC to get the facts right. After the report came out, I wrote the ABC report would be a bombshell IF TRUE. It wasn’t true so no bombshell.

  329. mnw says:

    The RRH Wise Men say that Dayton will appoint either the woman LG or the woman AG. Sounds right.

  330. Mr.Vito says:

    “Moore also has an R next to his name, and jason hates him.”

    You know, this stuff is elementary to everyone here, so why bother? Robbie says logic is a problem here… maybe it only is when he shows up.

  331. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:25 pm
    304
    Well, Tina, just more evidence this “independent investigation” is an absolute joke.

    – Everything’s a conspiracy.

  332. DW says:

    New arrival:

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  333. Mr.Vito says:

    If the Dems win the house and Mueller goes after Pence, watch how quickly the GOP will change their minds on Mueller.

  334. jason says:

    “now, he defends Trump and the only reason is Trump has a R next to his name.”

    So I guess you could not find ONE post where I said I think Trump is a Republican, huh?

    So why would I care if he has an R or not.

    I support Trump where I think he is doing good things for the country. I oppose him where I think he is wrong.

    Which btw is much more than his trade policies. I was critical of his attacks on NATO, critical of the physical wall, critical of his attacks on McCain, Flake and Corker.

    I believe blind opposition just because my candidate in the primaries didn’t win is stupid (yeah, you are stupid).

    Wow, what a novel idea, huh, support him where he is doing good?

  335. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    December 6, 2017 at 1:00 pm
    I concur. Robbie did say ‘if’.
    He interrupted a cruise to tell us what was obvious to anyone, which was what he was being ridiculed for.
    I hear a monk also broke his vow of silence to bring us that important news.
    A friend also told me that ‘many Bothans died to bring us this information.’

    – Point of order. My cruise had finished when I started posting. If you think I’d interrupt a vacation to post here, then you’re wrong.

  336. MichiganGuy says:

    SIXTEEN senators on Wednesday called on fellow Democrat Al Franken to resign, in a jaw-dropping avalanche of statements addressing the latest sexual misconduct allegations against the Minnesota senator.

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/avalanche-dem-senators-call-on-al-franken-to-step-aside-after-latest-allegations/

  337. Tina says:

    Has the maine chicklet opined on Franken?

  338. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 1:02 pm
    I wrote the ABC report IF TRUE would be a bombshell. It wasn’t true so no bombshell.”
    LOL
    What a lying scumbag.
    You believed it hook, line and sinker, that is why you giddily showed up here.
    What a horrible disappointment it must of been for you.
    Well, you can get back to finding Jeb’s real killer.

    – Here’s what I wrote you dumbass.

    Robbie says:
    December 1, 2017 at 11:24 am
    I’ve been a cruise for the last 10 days, but the report filed by Brian Ross to ABC about what Flynn will testify to is a bombshell, IF ACCURATE.

  339. Tina says:

    http://thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/barack-obama-compares-president-trump-hitler-chicago-speech/

    Yup, you got to vote…multiple times, illegals too.
    You also got to wiretap your opponents.

  340. DW says:

    344 – the new accusations that came out help explain Franken’s behavior after the first one. He was quick to play shocked at his own behavior in the photograph, and then somewhat deny the ‘way it happened’ as to the unwanted kiss, and at the same time apologize and brag about his high view of women. He was trying to get out ahead of the others out there who could come forward. But in the end it didn’t help.

    Had he flatly denied the allegations (hard to do with a photo), it would have brought out the others more quickly, but at least they finally showed up to the party.

  341. Tina says:

    He should have beeen charged with a sexual assault. She was asleep and he still touched her.

    Vile.

  342. MichiganGuy says:

    Not one Republican has called on Franken to resign but, they were quick to throw Roy Moore under the bus with no real proof. Wow.

  343. Tina says:

    He should be forced to also register as a sex offender.

    Have the gop ers chimed in?

  344. Tina says:

    OF course, franken should have said no intent to do anything.

    Comedy would have bought the no intent argument. Save a drat.

  345. Mr.Vito says:

    Robbie connected the two unrelated events, and with ‘but’…

    Shame on everyone for thinking it meant something.

  346. Tgca says:

    I think the Dem female senators are only asking Franken to resign due to optics.

    1. It’s a safe Dem seat for now due to Dem gov in MN so they know they’ll still have a Dem senator
    2. They realize there is backlash building in AA community to singling out Conyers

    I doubt they would ask him to resign if the MN gov was GOP

  347. Tina says:

    Per politico, possible gubment shutdown saturday. Trump blames the drats.

    Shut the beotch down

  348. Tina says:

    Please kep the interior monuments open during the shut down.

    Permanelty shut down the departments of no education and energy.

  349. Tina says:

    https://t.co/RwWgyZnkuR?amp=1

    Sjw yates is dumb. They have all of her emails.

  350. Mr.Vito says:

    “He should have beeen charged with a sexual assault. She was asleep and he still touched her.”

    The most ridiculous thing were the people defending him by saying you could see he wasn’t actually touching her in the picture.

    So if a woman is awake, is she required to stand there as he holds his fingers 0.2 cm away from her breasts, or can she kick him in the nuts?

  351. Tgca says:

    Also, look for Dems to resurrect the resign argument against Trump due to sexual harassment accusations. They’ll use Conyers and Franken as examples of why Trump should step down.

    Difference here is that Trump was elected in spite of these accusations, which was not the case for Conyers and Franken.

    …and with new allegations against Bill Clinton, would they have applied similar logic to Hillary, a known defender of Bill and denier of accusers?

  352. DW says:

    356 – spot on.

  353. jason says:

    Robbie says logic is a problem here… maybe it only is when he shows up.”

    Yep, logic is not his forte.

    Blind hatred does that to you though, logic and reason go out the window.

  354. Waingro says:


    Bitterlaw says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    Bold Prediction:

    The Jones campaign will have an ad ready to roll if Franken resigns:

    “The Democrats forced a predator out of the Senate. Do you want to send another one to take his place?”

    “I’m Doug Jones and I approve this message.”

    Yup, and this will be the strategy with EVERY midterm race in 2018 by tying the GOP entirely to Moore. Mark Foley 2.0.

    Unless the GOP responds by dumping Moore before then.

  355. Wobbles says:

    Point of order. My cruise had finished when I started posting. ”

    Yes, as I said before, my cruise ship was the only one in the world still without Internet.

    But when the “bombshell” came out, I just happened to be getting off the ship so I could do my Joy Behar glee dance.

    It was all a coincidence.

  356. MichiganGuy says:

    Waingro, stop telling us about your wet dreams.

  357. Mr.Vito says:

    “Mark Foley 2.0.”

    Meh. No one covered up for Moore.

    Conyers is closer to that situation.

  358. Mr.Vito says:

    In fact, the GOP hasn’t really treated Moore any differently than they treated Trump.

  359. Mr.Vito says:

    The mood of the electorate is going to determine what happens.

    When they are upset with you, everything is interpreted in the worst light as emotion overtakes reason.

    That was Jeb’s problem in the primary.

  360. jason says:

    Good article by John Stossel…

    I am not really a fan, but this is well written.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2017/12/06/i-hate-the-new-york-times-n2418518

  361. Waingro says:

    #364, LOL. Yes I would prefer not to have a credibly accused child molester running for a deep red seat in the Senate under the GOP tag. My “wet dream”.

  362. Tina says:

    Looks like possible ms 13gang related activity in dc area.

    Update to the fbi report earlier, but very little exact details.

  363. Waingro says:

    #365, oh, I agree. Definitely not apples to apples and am not sure how successful the strategy will even be, but that is their end game: repeat of 2006.

  364. jason says:

    That was Jeb’s problem in the primary”

    Not too sure.

    I think Jeb’s problem was people understood what he really meant.

    So when he said “I will respect Conservatives” they understood that was code for ‘”I am not one of you”.

  365. Paul says:

    Trump has shown his incompetence.

  366. Waingro says:

    Econ/yougov has Congressional Generic Ballot at D+6. Not bad. That number won’t be enough to flip the House.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/jhdmzhxe6k/econTabReport.pdf

  367. jason says:

    Unless the GOP responds by dumping Moore before then.”

    Let me be the first to second that motion.

    I want Moore to win by one vote, but should these allegations actually be validated, he should be kicked out of the Senate.

  368. Mr.Vito says:

    “So when he said “I will respect Conservatives” they understood that was code for ‘”I am not one of you”.

    I think we are on the same page… if they had not already made up their minds about him, they would have been more willing to question “what he really meant”

  369. jason says:

    Trump has shown his incompetence.”

    You mean Hillary was a more competent candidate?

  370. Trump says:

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Donald Trump (R)
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  371. Tina says:

    Josh Caplan
    @joshdcaplan
    SARA CARTER: Inspector General investigating 27 leakers, major shake-up at the FBI ‘coming as early as this week’
    6:46 PM – Dec 5, 2017

    Buh bye mccabe and pete the cheat.

  372. Waingro says:

    ““So when he said “I will respect Conservatives” they understood that was code for ‘”I am not one of you”.”

    “Please clap.”

  373. jason says:

    ‘if they had not already made up their minds about him”

    Ok I grant that was the case, that is why I thought he was not a viable candidate from the get go.

    But I still think the perception was his own doing.

  374. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has decided to finally recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, as instructed in legislation passed by Clinton.

    Muslims have retaliated by continuing to hate Israel on days ending in ‘Y’.

  375. jason says:

    “Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer advised President Trump to declare Jerusalem the “undivided” capital of Israel ahead of Trump’s expected announcement on the matter this week, the New York Democrat told The Weekly Standard on Tuesday.”

    I guess you can call the decision bi-partisan, but the MSM is going to smear Trump regardless.

  376. Mr.Vito says:

    It only makes sense, jason. The U.S. needs to stop giving terrorists hope that it will be open to negotiation. Let them know Israel is here to stay and Jerusalem is the capital, then go from there.

  377. Mr.Vito says:

    The U.S. should also take the position as a message to anti-semites here and in Europe.

  378. Tina says:

    I am sure the real cons and jebots will have issues too.

  379. jason says:

    I know others disagree, and we will never know, but I think if Jeb Bush had come out running for the R primary instead of the GE, and said “screw you lesser beings I AM THE conservative in this race” and run hard to the right, he MAYBE might have won the nomination. No common core, no act of love, no respect conservatives. No lets get along with the other side. No “adult in the room” BS. Aggressive in the debates not letting anyone get to the right of him.

    Yes, I understand this was not his character, his personality or even his beliefs. I don’t even know if he has it in him to do that. But that what it would have taken and I think in this case his poll numbers would have kept Trump out.

    And if that had happened, Hillary would be President. He would have been tagged as an extremist right winger in the GE and he would not have attracted the blue collar Dems that Trump got to win PA and the upper Midwest.

  380. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    343. “– Point of order. My cruise had finished when I started posting. If you think I’d interrupt a vacation to post here, then you’re wrong.”

    We now have got Robbie facing a moment of truth.

    The question is “where you, or where you not, in Bogo Pogo when you made your post.” Were going to have to have a special prosecutor appointed to examine this issue. Maybe Comey is available.

  381. Redmen4ever says:

    Cuba has run out of toilet paper …

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/12/04/cuban-media-havana-toilet-paper/

    In Venezuela, the answer to running out of toilet paper was to run out of food. That’s the way socialists think.

  382. jason says:

    I have no problem with the decision.

    The theory that “it puts all the holy places under Israeli control” is horse crap. Where the US embassy is located has nothing to do with that.

    That is just rhetoric to incite the ignorant.

  383. Tgca says:

    368 Vito

    Jeb’s pronblem in the primary was not “mood of the electorate.”

    Everyone knows Jeb’s problem was “low energy.”

  384. Tina says:

    No Soy Boys Allowed
    No Soy Boys Allowed
    @krisp__y
    ·
    8m
    BREAKING NEWS:

    Multiple, reliable sources have confirmed Donald Trump has plans to step down from his office as President of the United States, effective at Noon on Monday, January 20, 2025.

    Lol

  385. jason says:

    Isn’t Communism wonderful? Not only do you have toilet paper engineers, you have good toilet paper for tourists and crappy (pun intended) toilet paper for the citizens.

    No wonder Proud Obamacon thinks this is the ideal society.

    “They are not the super-machines, but they have an elevated technology level,” toilet paper engineer Manolo González García told the newspaper. One advantage of the new machines, he explains, is that they can simultaneously churn out two types of toilet paper rolls: a high-quality one for tourists, and an “ecological” one to sell to Cuban citizens.”

  386. Trump says:


    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:41 am

    What’s the difference between Trump and Flake donating to Dems?”

    None.

    Next question?”

    One’s a winner, the other’s a loser. Suck it, moron.

  387. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    263. More than $800 million

    NOVEMBER 30, 2017
    Record-breaking amount of money that California raised in its most recent auction for cap-and-trade permits, which companies are required to buy to release greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. The money is then used for projects and programs meant to reduce emissions.

    Source: the Los Angeles Times
    #######################################

    MONEY TO BE MADE WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
    BIG SHAKEDOWN OF BUSINESSES!

    __________

    Gov Moonbeam plans to use much of the money for his bullet train boondoggle.

    You will find gasoline prices in California are often at least a dollar more expensive than in neighboring states. The carbon tax is a factor in the high price. The average citizen, including the poor, are also experiencing the shakedown.

  388. jason says:

    I saw this in the old Soviet Union.

    There were stores only for tourists and members of the Communist Party. They had quality vodka and other “luxury” items not available to the general populace.

    You would see local citizens looking at the window displays of stores their “equal society” did not allow them into, even if they had the money.

  389. Trump says:

    “Why would Trump contribute to the mayor of Chicago? Trump Chicago didn’t need to be harassed.”

    Trump needed to build the Trump Tower in downtown Chicago.

    BTW, have you seen how beautiful it is?

  390. Trump says:

    “If any other Republican had contributed to a Democrat, the Trumpers would shout “Crucify him!”. But Trump fights or something.”

    Trump wins, loser cretin Robbie.

  391. jason says:

    One’s a winner, the other’s a loser. Suck it, moron.”

    Why don’t you let someone with basic reading comprehension answer the question, don’t tax you limited brain.

    I didn’t ask the what was difference between Trump and Flake I asked what the difference between Trump and Flake donating to Dems.

    And of course, you are wrong on your answer too, both Flake and Trump won their last elections so they are both winners.

    Sometimes its better not to say anything than say something stupid. But you wouldn’t know.

  392. mnw says:

    In 1974, the CIA took a defector Soviet pilot to a Wal-Mart stir in NOVa & told him to buy soap & underwear & socks.

    The pilot later wrote that he “had assumed the store was reserved for high-ranking govt officials.”

  393. jason says:

    “Why would Trump contribute to the mayor of Chicago? Trump Chicago didn’t need to be harassed.”

    Trump needed to build the Trump Tower in downtown Chicago.

    BTW, have you seen how beautiful it is?”

    LOL, Soccer Moron can’t help himself…should have read this above:

    “Sometimes its better not to say anything than say something stupid. But you wouldn’t know.”

    The Trump Tower opened 2009 and Rahm was elected in 2011.

  394. jason says:

    58 Dems actually voted to impeach Trump.

    Scary.

    Vote was 364-58.

  395. mnw says:

    Wonder how many were CBC.

  396. jason says:

    Maybe some of the Dems who voted against impeachment will now be primaried by the moonbats.

    One can always hope, the Dems do have their own deadenders.

  397. Trump says:

    Moron pimp, doesn’t matter who donates to whom.

    It’s inside baseball.

    What matters is who wins.

    But hey, keep the loser Republicans happy.

  398. Tgca says:

    How many of those who voted to impeach were

    1 from CA
    2 from NY
    3 from Black Caucus

  399. Trump says:

    Flake won his last election. Wooo hooo!

    Life is great for Flake.

  400. DW says:

    “In Venezuela, the answer to running out of toilet paper was to run out of food. That’s the way socialists think.”

    Ah, yes…same as when Jimmy Carter pulled away for a couple of weeks to come up with a solution to the energy crisis, and came back and told Americans to turn down their thermostats and put on sweaters.

    Similar to the smack-down Ted Cruz gave Bernie Sanders pointing out that ‘the rich’ means ‘taxpayer’ and that if we taxed ALL millionaires 100% that it would only pay for 8% of Bernie’s socialism.

    Bernie responded in anger that Cruz doesn’t care about people who don’t have health care.

  401. Trump says:

    Romney never donated to Dems, as far as I know.

    Give a medal to the loser.

  402. DW says:

    Or when Pol Pot decided he had enough workers to build his utopia, he rounded up the left over people, tortured and killed them.

  403. Tgca says:

    Does this mean the majority of Dems who voted against impeachment would change their vote if Dems take House in 2018?

  404. Trump says:

    Maybe Romney can frame his “Never Donated to Dems” certificate and put it over the Oval Office mantel.

  405. Tgca says:

    Romney never donated to Dems but he evidently evolved over the years.

    • In a debate during his 1994 race against Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy, Romney said, “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.” Referring to the 1973 Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal in every state, Romney added, “I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, it should be sustained and supported. And I sustain and support that law and support the right of a woman to make that choice.”

    • In his 2002 campaign for governor, Romney said during a debate, “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.”

  406. NYCmike says:

    “I want Moore to win by one vote, but should these allegations actually be validated, he should be kicked out of the Senate.”

    -jason comes around to what I said several weeks ago.

    Progress.

  407. Trump says:

    I want Moore to lose by one vote or two.

  408. DW says:

    It is mathematically impossible for Moore to win by one vote. Al Franken can testify to this.

  409. Mr.Vito says:

    “In 1974, the CIA took a defector Soviet pilot to a Wal-Mart stir in NOVa & told him to buy soap & underwear & socks.

    The pilot later wrote that he “had assumed the store was reserved for high-ranking govt officials.”

    Do you have a source for that? It is hilarious.

  410. jason says:

    -jason comes around to what I said several weeks ago.

    Progress.”

    GFY

    That has been my position since this scumbag was nominated, thanks to useful idiots like you.

  411. jason says:

    Life is great for Flake.”

    I am sure its better for him than for a blood sucking parasite like you.

  412. jason says:

    So Soccer Moron explain again how Trump contributed to Rahm to build a building completed 2 years before he got into office.

  413. Tina says:

    Jeb Bush
    Jeb Bush
    @JebBush
    Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and I applaud @POTUS for seeing through America’s promise to relocate its embassy there. This is an important show of solidarity with Israel, one of our nation’s greatest allies.

  414. jason says:

    Does this mean the majority of Dems who voted against impeachment would change their vote if Dems take House in 2018?

    Yes.

  415. Redmen4ever says:

    RE the guy in Florida who was planning to shoot up a Mosque.

    Being a Filipino, is he a “white Hispanic,” or it’s just taken for granted nowadays that yellow is the new white?

  416. jason says:

    Schumer, Jeb and Trump all agree on Jerusalem.

    As they say, politics makes for strange bedfellows.

  417. Tgca says:

    Kennedy is in a pickle on the USSC Gay Cake Case.

    On one hand, he is an advocate of free speech. On the other hand, he has shown a willingness to support gay rights. This should be interesting to see how he resolves this internal conflict.

    The one thing I should say on the matter is
    1. Religious right love their freedom of religious expression,and
    2. Gay men love cake.

    Google it if you’re confused. 🙂

  418. Mr.Vito says:

    “Schumer, Jeb and Trump all agree on Jerusalem.

    As they say, politics makes for strange bedfellows.”

    Well, the Pope is pi$$ed, so there’s that.

  419. jason says:

    Yeah, the Communist Pope thinks radical Islam is his friend.

    Bitter will still go to Mass, however, since it doesn’t matter what the Pope thinks.

  420. jason says:

    s he a “white Hispanic,”

    According to Corey, that is not possible.

  421. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 1:25 pm
    Robbie says logic is a problem here… maybe it only is when he shows up.”
    Yep, logic is not his forte.
    Blind hatred does that to you though, logic and reason go out the window.

    – No. The logic problem is people tut tutting around for years claiming to be conservative only to fall in line with Trump. There is no reconciling support for conservatism with support for Trump.

  422. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    December 6, 2017 at 1:29 pm
    Point of order. My cruise had finished when I started posting. ”
    Yes, as I said before, my cruise ship was the only one in the world still without Internet.
    But when the “bombshell” came out, I just happened to be getting off the ship so I could do my Joy Behar glee dance.
    It was all a coincidence.

    – I thought the timing was perfect, Jason. In fact, I saw it as a sign from above you sniveling little fraud.

  423. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 1:38 pm
    That was Jeb’s problem in the primary”
    Not too sure.
    I think Jeb’s problem was people understood what he really meant.
    So when he said “I will respect Conservatives” they understood that was code for ‘”I am not one of you”.

    – Meanwhile, you support Trump who is the antithesis of conservatism.

    How much of the #neverTrump swag do you buy off Rubio’s website?

  424. Chicon says:

    422 – if this is the real Jeb it will cause a dilemma for Robbie – either Trump is right or JEB!is wrong. Which will he choose?

  425. NYCmike says:

    “That has been my position since this scumbag was nominated, thanks to useful idiots like you.”

    -Let’s see: I have the opinion that primaries are an overall positive for a party, making sure the representatives are in touch with their constituents.

    You think it is better to have Mitch McConnell and his cohorts spend $30 million trying to take out a sitting Congressman (Brooks) so that a person (Strange) hand-picked by a scandal-ridden Governor (Bentley) would have an easy time against a marginal candidate (Moore), instead of taking those $$ and spending them defeating Democrats.

  426. Robbie says:

    Trump says:
    December 6, 2017 at 2:24 pm
    “If any other Republican had contributed to a Democrat, the Trumpers would shout “Crucify him!”. But Trump fights or something.”
    Trump wins, loser cretin Robbie.

    – Is your goal in life to have your mouth serve as a Trump fecal collector?

  427. NYCmike says:

    “There is no reconciling support for conservatism with support for Trump.”

    -Please list the “liberal” policy initiatives pushed by Trump that are so damaging to conservatism.

    Thanks in advance. I will NOT hold my breath.

  428. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 6, 2017 at 3:59 pm
    422 – if this is the real Jeb it will cause a dilemma for Robbie – either Trump is right or JEB!is wrong. Which will he choose?

    – You believed Andrew Napolitano’s conspiracy theory Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump. You also believed Rod Wheeler’s claim the DNC murdered Seth Rich.

    Why have you refused to acknowledge you fell for two ridiculous conspiracy theories?

  429. DW says:

    New:
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  430. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:01 pm
    “That has been my position since this scumbag was nominated, thanks to useful idiots like you.”
    -Let’s see: I have the opinion that primaries are an overall positive for a party, making sure the representatives are in touch with their constituents.
    You think it is better to have Mitch McConnell and his cohorts spend $30 million trying to take out a sitting Congressman (Brooks) so that a person (Strange) hand-picked by a scandal-ridden Governor (Bentley) would have an easy time against a marginal candidate (Moore), instead of taking those $$ and spending them defeating Democrats.

    – I would take McConnell over the absolute idiots you support every day of the week. If it weren’t for Mitch McConnell, who you and Steve Bannon hate, we’d have Justice Merrick Garland and no tax bill out of the Senate. But by all means, tell us how he’s the problem and your crapfest candidates who lose unlosable races aren’t.

  431. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:04 pm
    “There is no reconciling support for conservatism with support for Trump.”
    -Please list the “liberal” policy initiatives pushed by Trump that are so damaging to conservatism.
    Thanks in advance. I will NOT hold my breath.

    – Good. You’d pass out before I’d bother answering your stupid question.

  432. Tgca says:

    Who said White Hispanic is not possible?

    Hispanic is not a race, it’s an ethnicity by most acceptable standards. Caucasian is a race. Hispanic is generally considered Caucasian but can sometimes be other races too if there is a mix of genetic code (e.g. black Cubans or Puerto Rican’s). When us with Latin blood identify ourselves, we generally identify as Caucasian by race unless we have another mixture of race in our genetic code.

    It would be silly of me, a light-skinned 50% Latino “Hot” male to suggest I was not Caucasian. That being said, my genetic tests do indicate about 12% black blood though but I attribute that to my great grandparents from Puerto Rico where there was some mixed blood. Either that or our milkman was black. I’ve always been the told the 1st story but who knows, right?

  433. NYCmike says:

    “– Good. You’d pass out before I’d bother answering your stupid question.”

    -One example would take that long?

  434. Chicon says:

    433 – still waiting for a list of liberal programs or initiatives even proposed by Trump that might support your allegation of him being the antithesis of conservative.

  435. mnw says:

    Vito 418

    “MIG Pilot: The Final Escape of Lt. Belenko” by Viktor Belenko ( published 1980)

    In 1976, he flew his MIG25 ’Foxbat’ to a Japanese civilian airport; landed: taxied his startling aircraft off of the runway: hopped out, & said, “I vant talk CIA.”

  436. Chicon says:

    C’mon Robbie – is Trump right on Israel or is Jeb wrong?

  437. Tgca says:

    It does not matter whether Trump was a Dem or Rep in the past, it matters on how he governs in office today, and thus far, he has pushed a conservative-friendly agenda.

    Reagan was an FDR Dem but changed over time, even though he did not always govern as a true conservative either.

    Same could be said of both Bushes, they did not always govern as true conservatives.

    Move on now. Discuss something more substantive like ABORTION.

  438. Wes says:

    Eight Senators are now calling for Stuart Smalley to resign. Too bad this never came out in 2008 or 2014.

  439. Tina says:

    President mute and bropwe bush have not weighed in.

  440. Tina says:

    The number is much higher, wes. In the 20s. But still no gope.

  441. Chicon says:

    447 – you’ll soon be branded a brain dead Trumpist….

    Many here think 1) Trump is a bad guy who does many stupid things, AND 2) Trump is governing as a conservative. Most realize both can be true.

  442. Wes says:

    Same could be said of both Bushes, they did not always govern as true conservatives.

    The second Bush was basically LBJ Redux.

  443. Tina says:

    Jake Tapper
    @jaketapper
    As of 330 pm ET, 29 Senate Democrats, including 13 women, have called for @alfranken to resign.
    12:31 PM · Dec 6, 2017

    This is oer fake news flapper.

  444. NYCmike says:

    ” If it weren’t for Mitch McConnell, who you and Steve Bannon hate, we’d have Justice Merrick Garland and no tax bill out of the Senate. ”

    -Are you saying that NO OTHER REPUBLICAN, if that person was Majority Leader, could have accomplished these 2 things?

    Not even BOB CORKER? 🙂

  445. Waingro says:

    Uh oh. Is GOP about to flip-flop AGAIN on Moore? (Cue MG to call it another “wet dream” for me!)

    Chad Pergram?Verified account @ChadPergram
    24s25 seconds ago

    GOP AL Sen Shelby on Franken/Moore: It doesn’t look good. The perception and the reputation of the Senate is at stake in all of this and we have to think about it.

  446. Wes says:

    Dayton will appoint someone without Stuart’s baggage to the seat, making it impossible for Republicans to win.

  447. Waingro says:

    “It does not matter whether Trump was a Dem or Rep in the past, it matters on how he governs in office today, and thus far, he has pushed a conservative-friendly agenda.”

    Agreed. I for one based much (but certainly not all) my objections to voting for Trump on what I viewed was his clear leftward tendencies and previous positions.

    I have been pleasantly surprised with how he has governed so far.

  448. Wes says:

    I hope Stuart fights on and forces the Senate to call an expulsion vote.

  449. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw, has MD or Author weighed in on Stuart Smalley?

  450. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:11 pm
    433 – still waiting for a list of liberal programs or initiatives even proposed by Trump that might support your allegation of him being the antithesis of conservative.

    – Still waiting for you to admit you fell for conspiracy theories.

  451. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:15 pm
    C’mon Robbie – is Trump right on Israel or is Jeb wrong?

    – Come on, Chicon. Did the DNC murder Seth Rich and did Obama spy on Trump through the British?

  452. Chicon says:

    nypost.com/2017/12/05/roy-moores-spokesman-calls-sexual-assault-accusers-criminals/

    More evidence of rock-headedness on Moore’s part.

  453. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    Icymi: The Russian lawyer who attended the Trump Tower meeting seems to have given false testimony about meeting Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson. Asked about the discrepancy, her lawyer responds: “No idea.” http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/05/russian-lawyer-who-met-don-jr-submits-senate-testimony-theres-just-one-problem/ … @dailycaller
    12:42 PM – Dec 6, 2017

    I am sure that since she was part of the drat fusion sting, she will not be charged. Two tier system of justice.

  454. jason says:

    Who said White Hispanic is not possible?”

    Corey.

    He said I could not be a true Hispanic if I was white.

  455. Waingro says:

    Wes says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    Bitterlaw, has MD or Author weighed in on Stuart Smalley?

    Here you go, Wes:

    Luis A. Mendez? @AuthorLMendez

    For those wondering if Franken resigns what chance Rs have to flip the seat…not much IMO

    1) 2018 will not be a good R environment barring unforeseen events

    2) MN is a D+ Cook PVI state (Though Trump almost won it)

    3) MN hasn’t gone R statewide since Pawlenty’s 06 Gov upset
    1:22 PM – 6 Dec 2017

    2 Retweets
    4 Likes
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    1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
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    New conversation

    ?? Luis A. Mendez? @AuthorLMendez
    3h3 hours ago
    Replying to @AuthorLMendez

    4) Trump is incredibly unpopular in the state according to individual state polls and our own estimates at @MendezReport

    5) Other major Dems in the state are pretty popular and will campaign for the Dem Nom

    Not 100% impossible but going to be a tough thing to ask from R nom
    1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    ?? Luis A. Mendez? @AuthorLMendez
    3h3 hours ago

    Best hope for Rs is Pawlenty 06 redo. He was looking in real trouble in a bad environment for Rs & came into election day the slight underdog in polls, but pulled it off in a close one.

    However…Pawlenty was an incumbent and his foe’s campaign dealt w/ major gaffe in final days

  456. Wes says:

    If I lived in Alabama, I’d have to spend next Tuesday doing anything but voting.

  457. NYCmike says:

    “The perception and the reputation of the Senate is at stake in all of this and we have to think about it.”

    -Jeez Louise…..PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, DO NOT use this as a reason to NOT support Moore!

    The Senate has ZERO moral standing. IF Moore is elected, he should have to stand trial for the allegations. And if found guilty, or the evidence is more clear than now, he should be thrown out.

    Until then, they are allegations, and if he intends to fight them, he should be put under oath AFTER he wins this election.

  458. CG says:

    I said you could not compare yourself to Marco Rubio in terms of any discrimination or bigotry he might encounter, if as you have said, you have a completely Anglo name the physical appearance of an Anglo.

    Based on what you have written here about your background, you are a Latino American the same way that Teresa Heinz Kerry is an African-American. I look at all Americans as Americans.

  459. Chicon says:

    461 – why the deflection on such a simple question that is in today’s news? Trump says Jerusalem is the capital and the US is moving the embassy there. Do you agree with this decision?

  460. Wes says:

    Trump obviously wants Arabs to start voting more like blacks.

  461. NYCmike says:

    Maybe “CG” could help Robbie in making a list of ALL of the “liberal” policy initiatives that Trump has pushed.

  462. Robbie says:

    Republicans in the Senate did everything they could to get rid of good ole Roy, a pedophile. Unfortunately, our erratic president decided to listen to an absolute jerk in Steve Bannon and support Moore. And because of that, Republicans have been left to make the case a pedophile is better than a Democrat. On the flip side, Democrats, albeit not immediately, have probably forced Franken out of the Senate and they will look far better for it than the broken down party Trump is ruining.

  463. jason says:

    Good. You’d pass out before I’d bother answering your stupid question”

    Translation: I cannot answer the question.

  464. jason says:

    I am reducing Moore’s chances to 50/50 because of Franken’s resignation.

  465. Waingro says:

    “Trump obviously wants Arabs to start voting more like blacks.”

    Honest question: what percentage of of “Arab”/Muslim vote goes to Dems? I would say it’s pretty high.

  466. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:37 pm
    461 – why the deflection on such a simple question that is in today’s news? Trump says Jerusalem is the capital and the US is moving the embassy there. Do you agree with this decision?

    – Why should I waste my time answering the question of someone who believes in conspiracy theories?

  467. Chicon says:

    460, such a surprise. Well, the claim that Trump is the antithesis of a conservative goes unsupported.

  468. Waingro says:

    #472, Robbie, that could be changing again. Richard Shelby, who has gone dark on this for a while, is sounding off alarm bells. Let’s see what Mitchy and some other “Establishment” types say next.

  469. Wes says:

    North of 70% since 2004, Wain. It was pretty evenly split before that. Not quite black levels yet, but that’ll probably happen now that Trump wants the US to say Jerusalem is officially Israel’s capital.

  470. Mr.Vito says:

    I thought Teresa Kerry was of Portuguese heritage.

  471. Redmen4ever says:

    Let’s face it, whiteness can happen to people of non-whiteness. It may not be a curable, but it can be treated.

  472. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:39 pm
    Good. You’d pass out before I’d bother answering your stupid question”
    Translation: I cannot answer the question.

    – Allow me to translate for HHR’s biggest fraud.
    “I tough talked Trump every day of the campaign, but he won with a R next to his name so he’s now my guy. And just so I can pretend I don’t support everything Trump does (including a tweet attacking Mika’s facelift), I always throw out the fig leaf that I don’t like his trade policy.”

  473. jason says:

    I think Wobbie is correct that Dems threw Franken under the bus to try to get Jones elected.

    I don’t know if it will work.

    But things were not looking good for Jones so it might be worth the gamble.

  474. NYCmike says:

    “– Why should I waste my time answering the question of someone who believes in conspiracy theories?”

    -63million plus voted for Trump…..so you don’t have to worry about those people.

    63million plus voted for Hillary, and they obviously believe in the Russian conspiracy.

    At least you have more time to answer questions about why you keep looking at “ladies” on the internet.

  475. Chicon says:

    476 – another revealing non-answer. You just can’t bear to say Jeb is wrong or that Trump is right. About any one thing. Ever. And it is the rest of us who are crazy…..

  476. CG says:

    She was born and raised in Africa though.

    In the past, jason has stated that he is of European heritage and that his family lived in Central America at the time of his birth.

    It makes no difference to me. I consider any legal immigrant as much of an American as I am.

  477. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:38 pm
    Maybe “CG” could help Robbie in making a list of ALL of the “liberal” policy initiatives that Trump has pushed.

    – Maybe you can make a list of all of the laws Angle, COD, Buck, and Mourdock cosponsored in the Senate?

  478. Wes says:

    Teresa Heinz Kerry was born in Mozambique. She claims to be African-American because of that. At an event in the early 2000s, a low-level Jesse Jackson type confronted her about that claim. Her response:

    “I was born in Africa. Where were you born?”

    He promptly sat down snd shut up.

  479. Waingro says:

    #479, maybe. You could be right. Although by the same logic, given this announcement, you could argue that Trump might get more Jewish-Americans — who also vote heavily for Dems — to vote for R’s as well, making this a wash.

  480. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:42 pm
    #472, Robbie, that could be changing again. Richard Shelby, who has gone dark on this for a while, is sounding off alarm bells. Let’s see what Mitchy and some other “Establishment” types say next.

    – There are just six days to go. I don’t think anything will change. Moore won’t quit and the worthless governor isn’t about to postpone the election either. And if Moore wins, you can bet the party will back down on its threat to expel him.

  481. CG says:

    I’ll answer to say that Jeb’s Tweet is right about Jerusalem (as his willingness to applaud the POTUS speaks very highly towards what a generous person he is), just as I believe Jeb is correct on *most* issues, and I can also believe that Trump can be right on this issue even as he remains wrong on many other issues and a scumbag of a human personally.

    The announcement today is really more symbolic than anything but it’s still the right policy of the U.S. I am glad Schumer pushed him on this.

  482. Waingro says:

    Drip…drip…

    This Week?Verified account @ThisWeekABC
    20m20 minutes ago

    Sen. Lindsey Graham: If Roy Moore wins, he will be “the gift that keeps on giving, in terms of Democratic politics.” http://abcn.ws/2j25yxw

  483. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:45 pm
    476 – another revealing non-answer. You just can’t bear to say Jeb is wrong or that Trump is right. About any one thing. Ever. And it is the rest of us who are crazy…..

    – Another deflection by you. You just can’t admit you’re a sap for conspiracies.

  484. Bitterlaw says:

    There were stores only for tourists and members of the Communist Party. They had quality vodka and other “luxury” items not available to the general populace.

    I shopped in one of those stores when I visited the Soviet Union. I was bold or stupid enough to bring a female Soviet student in with me. I told her to look like she had no idea what the clerks were saying. I asked what she wanted to buy. I bought her oranges.

    She was the daughter of a local party boss and she did not have access to the store.

  485. Waingro says:

    ” And if Moore wins, you can bet the party will back down on its threat to expel him.”

    I don’t necessarily disagree there. MAGA’s will make life difficult for GOP if they unload on Moore — unless Trump himself flip-flops on him, which is doubtful.

  486. Tina says:

    remeber, when teresa and francois kerry had difficukty ordering st the wendys.

    What is chili?

  487. Wes says:

    Doubtful, Wain. Bob Dole endorsed recognizing Jersualem as Israel’s capital in 1996. It undercut his previously soaring approvals among Arabs and gained him nothing among Jews.

  488. Mr.Vito says:

    “I’ll answer to say that Jeb’s Tweet is right about Jerusalem …”

    That’s why I said you should be here instead of Robbie.

  489. Tina says:

    When you host schumah and piglosi tomorrow, no deal. No deal on daca duck.

  490. CG says:

    Franken should have quit three weeks ago. He knew that there were other women he had abused.

    The Democrats’ hypocrisy and double standards on these matters, both as they relate to Franken and Conyers, only emboldened the apologists for Moore and Trump which is not something I want. Put aside what might be right or moral, they blew this politically, (at least up until about now)

    I think all predators and abusers in office should go.

  491. Tina says:

    But but but hamas hates us and wilk target us, as likely the iranians, who seem to have not liked their encounterwith us in syria.

  492. Robbie says:

    It sure seems NYCmike’s guy Steve Bannon pissed off a lot of people with his disgraceful attacks on Mitt Romney, his family, and their religion.

    So far, the governor and lt. governor have both tweeted that Bannon, a despicable jerk, should stay out of the state. Also, Hatch and Lee both defended Romney.

    Finally, the Desert News unloaded on NYCmike’s guy Bannon today. They noted that while Romney was saving a woman in distress, Bannon was facing misdemeanor charges of domestic violence in California.

    At least Bannon fights for pedophiles, right?
    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865693722/Hal-Boyd-Bannons-attack-against-Mormon-missions-and-Mitt-Romney-has-no-moral-authority.html

  493. Mr.Vito says:

    “Put aside what might be right or moral, they blew this politically…”

    Stop making me miss you, you bum.

  494. NYCmike says:

    “– Maybe you can make a list of all of the laws Angle, COD, Buck, and Mourdock cosponsored in the Senate?”

    -I can definitely say they sent Trump as many bills REPEALING OBAMACARE as anyone else did.*

    *Terrible on both sides!

  495. CG says:

    All recent Presidents and candidates, including the Clintons and Obama have stated during their campaigns that Jerusalem is the indivisible, eternal capital of Israel.

    I think I have a bit of perspective as to why Jewish-Americans tend to vote the way they do (they dislike Republicans for other reasons). I would not anticipate any surge of Jewish support for Trump if he runs again. I know that this lifelong Jewish Republican would once again not vote for him.

  496. Mr.Vito says:

    “Stop making me miss you, you bum.”

    GPOTD

  497. Tina says:

    Jacob Wohl
    Jacob Wohl
    @JacobAWohl
    SCOOP: Robert Mueller’s investigator Jeannie Rhee has donated more than $16,000 to democrats since 2008, including $5,400 to Hillary Clinton (the maximum donation allowed by US law).

    She also represented Obama National Security Adviser @BRhodes at Robert Mueller’s law firm
    8:18 PM · Dec 5, 2017

    Paging rosenstein where are you?

  498. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm
    “I’ll answer to say that Jeb’s Tweet is right about Jerusalem …”
    That’s why I said you should be here instead of Robbie.

    – I won’t answer Chicon because he believes in conspiracy theories, but I will address you. I think Trump’s decision to move the embassy was fine.

    As for your shots at me, I prefer the Mr. Vito who didn’t fall for Trump’s conman routine.

  499. CG says:

    Robbie fits in better here if he enjoys it all. I’ll drop by from time to time, but I feel worse about humanity the more I read the posts here and in turn that just makes me look “sanctimonious.”

  500. jason says:

    And just so I can pretend I don’t support everything Trump does (including a tweet attacking Mika’s facelift), I always throw out the fig leaf that I don’t like his trade policy.”

    Zzzzzzz…

    I support Trump where I think its good for the country. what a novel idea, huh, compared to just blind hatred and opposition because my candidate lost.

    Here is where I support Trump:

    – Judicial appointments
    – Deregulation
    – Taxes
    – Rebuilding the military
    – Energy independence
    – Paris accords
    – Fighting back against MSM bias and dishonesty, including commenting on Fake News Mika’s face.
    – Attacks on sanctuary cities
    – Deportation of felons

    What I don’t support Trump on:

    – Protectionist rhetoric
    – Tariffs
    – Ending trade agreements like Nafta
    – Physical wall with Mexico
    – Anti-NATO rhetoric
    – Attacks on McCain, Flake, and Corker
    – Attacks on McConnell and Ryan

    I also don’t support the content of all his tweets, but I do support him tweeting because its one of the few ways he can counter the MSM’s relentless and dishonest attacks on him.

    Oh, and GFY.

  501. Tina says:

    Nobody likes quittens. He is old news and just a lightweight that lost an election he shoukd have won. He let candy walk over him andd stutered.

  502. Bitterlaw says:

    Author is officially a Libertarian now. He would have chosen Muller as Time’s Person of the Year.

    https://twitter.com/authorlmendez?lang=en

    MD has not tweeted since 12/1

  503. Mr.Vito says:

    “As for your shots at me…”

    Was that a shot? You said you don’t belong here, so you agree with me.

  504. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:56 pm
    “– Maybe you can make a list of all of the laws Angle, COD, Buck, and Mourdock cosponsored in the Senate?”
    -I can definitely say they sent Trump as many bills REPEALING OBAMACARE as anyone else did.*
    *Terrible on both sides!

    – Your boy Rand Paul made sure a repeal of Obamacare never happened. He voted against it, but strangely you never attack him.

  505. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    December 6, 2017 at 4:59 pm
    “As for your shots at me…”
    Was that a shot? You said you don’t belong here, so you agree with me.

    – I never said any such thing. CG said I don’t belong here because I’m out of step with the idiotic Trump echo chamber that exists here.

  506. Tina says:

    Nafta is not ended yet. It coukd be strengthened. It appears that the canadian pm, justin bieber, damaged this though.

    The nato criticim is warranted since they are not making adequate payments. I think this is an offshoot of groper 41or mute 43 policy.

  507. Tina says:

    I canny t take the candaian pm or the french president serious.

  508. Tina says:

    A libertarian that is a drat?

    Lol, that guy was a fraud since day 1

  509. NYCmike says:

    ” and I can also believe that Trump can be right on this issue even as he remains wrong on many other issues”

    -“CG”,

    List those issues when you can.

    It would be interesting to compare to previous Presidents, as well as to think about how Hillary would have approached each issue.

  510. Mr.Vito says:

    “..but I feel worse about humanity the more I read the posts here and in turn that just makes me look “sanctimonious.”

    That isn’t what made you sanctimonious…

    “CG said I don’t belong here”

    Ok, so it is only a shot if I point it out.

  511. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Former Gov. Bredeson will run for the Senate in TN. Can he beat Marsha Blackburn?

    https://twitter.com/NPostPolitics/status/938523742774448129

  512. jason says:

    Based on what you have written here about your background, you are a Latino American the same way that Teresa Heinz Kerry is an African-American.”

    LOL

    Complete BS.

  513. CG says:

    Author has stated recently that because of the RNC supporting Moore he will be voting straight Democrat for the next couple of cycles.

    I don’t know if he will actually follow through with that, but if so, he wouldn’t be the only person who feels the need to do so.

  514. NYCmike says:

    “– Your boy Rand Paul”

    -I thought Steve Bannon was my “boy”?

    Dang, this place is confusing!

  515. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t know if he will actually follow through with that, but if so, he wouldn’t be the only person who feels the need to do so.”

    SEND A MESSAGE!

  516. Tina says:

    He is wrong for the following

    He beat hillary, my idol.

    He is for securing the borders.

    We love regulations and open borders. .

    We love blowing up the me.

    We love, love ,love the Bushes above all.

    Jebots

  517. CG says:

    519. I’m not here to take an ACT test.

    Over on the left-wing blog where I mostly post and fight with people, they claim that I support Trump “90 pecent” of the time, or that I am some kind of closet supporter of his, which I very much disagree with. I have said though, I don’t care if I agreed with him on every single issue under the sun, the man is a disgrace to my country.

  518. jason says:

    Nafta is not ended yet. It coukd be strengthened. It appears that the canadian pm, justin bieber, damaged this though.

    The nato criticim is warranted since they are not making adequate payments. I think this is an offshoot of groper 41or mute 43 policy.”

    We disagree. Both policies are short sighted, self defeating and frankly asinine.

    Both Nafta, which provides political stability to Mexico, and NATO which provides stability to the world in general, are squarely in America’s interest.

    Trump’s positions are populist garbage.

  519. NYCmike says:

    “I have said though, I don’t care if I agreed with him on every single issue under the sun, the man is a disgrace to my country.”

    🙂

    Ass-grabbing Presidents are OK with “CG”, but not p*ssy-grabbing ones!

  520. Robbie says:

    If he should win (unlikely), NYCmike will probably say it was still worth it to get a mainstream conservative like Corker out of the Senate.

    Cari Wade Gervin?
    @carigervin

    NEWS: Former Gov. Phil Bredesen is IN the Senate race: https://www.nashvillepost.com/politics/elections/tennessee-federal-offices/article/20985027/bredesen-running-for-senate

  521. Redmen4ever says:

    Morning Consult/Politico:

    73 percent of registered voters consider the evidence of sexual misconduct by Bill Clinton to be credible. (Few consider the evidence not credible or don’t know.)

    Where are the numbers WEAK (67%):

    Seniors, Democrats, Liberals, Post-Grads, Wealthy, Urban, Jewish, Roman Catholic, Non-evangelical Christian.

  522. CG says:

    Nope, Clinton and Trump are both disgraces whom I voted against.

  523. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??’s Tweets
    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    16m
    Russian lawyer who attended the Trump Tower meeting denied interacting with the founder of Fusion GPS (Simpson) that same day, in direct contradiction to what Simpson told Congress last month.

  524. Waingro says:

    #523, Author had a pretty big melt down on Twitter after Trump won the election, vowing to quit politics forever. Of course, that didn’t take long.

    I have a feeling he will have a similar meltdown if the Dems fail to take the House or whatever. He is ALL IN on the Blue Team.

  525. CG says:

    I actually think former Congressman Stephen Fincher, with his strong Evangelical base might be favored for the Senate nomination in TN

  526. Mr.Vito says:

    “Over on the left-wing blog where I mostly post and fight with people, they claim that I support Trump “90 pecent” of the time, or that I am some kind of closet supporter of his, which I very much disagree with. I have said though, I don’t care if I agreed with him on every single issue under the sun, the man is a disgrace to my country.”

    Robbie prefers to fight with people who he agrees with on the issues 90 percent of the time and call them the disgrace to the country.

    What blog is it?

  527. jason says:

    ‘In the past, jason has stated that he is of European heritage and that his family lived in Central America at the time of his birth.”

    Almost all Hispanics are of European descent, especially in the Southern Cone of South America.

    And my family never resided in Central America.

  528. NYCmike says:

    “Trump’s positions are populist garbage.”

    -Of course, he has not altered them illegally in any way, to suit his campaign words.

    He has worked with Congress, and has held talks with the countries involved, to push them in certain ways, which is in his right as President.

    Personally, after 11 months in office, if there are any major changes to either of those pacts, I would love to hear what those changes are.

  529. Mr.Vito says:

    “…it was still worth it to get a mainstream conservative like Corker out of the Senate.”

    I was told Corker was retiring… that he wasn’t leaving because he couldn’t win the primary.

    If he can win the primary, he should fight for it if he really believes in it.

  530. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #531
    Bredesen is 76 years old now. What is he thinking? He is also politically tied with Obama and the Clintons.

  531. Mr.Vito says:

    CG said he was disappointed in GHWB. I’m sure he is glad he does not have to vote for him anymore.

  532. NYCmike says:

    “519. I’m not here to take an ACT test.”

    -Got it.

    Between you and Robbie, even Trump-crotch-hanger-on-jason has more issues with which he disagrees with Trump on than the 2 of you.

  533. mnw says:

    I hope the DEMs throw a LOT of money at Bredesen, to try to flip Corker’s seat in TN.

    I expect Blackburn will eat his lunch. Still, Bredesen getting in may indicate that the DEMs are recruiting their A-list candidates of choice.

  534. jason says:

    Since Corey is displaying profound ignorance and talking trash…

    Share of Chilean Population
    1 European 59%
    2 Mestizo 25% (mixed)
    3 Mapuche 9%
    4 African 4%
    5 Aymara 1%
    6 Others 2%

  535. CG says:

    Sorry, South America

    The site is PoliticalDog101 but it’s an extremely small crowd there, but contains specific people I have fought with online since 2004.

  536. Tina says:

    Arthur was triggered by the fan.

  537. NYCmike says:

    “NYCmike will probably say”

    -HHR, where you get “boys” and mouthpieces without even asking.

  538. jason says:

    “even Trump-crotch-hanger-on-jason”

    I like it.

    Tks for the points.

  539. CG says:

    I believe Corker and Flake are both looking at running for President in the 2020 Republican primaries. It wouldn’t make sense for both of them to run though, so that’s something they would have to figure out.

  540. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    Bredesen will be this year’s Jerry Strictland (D-OH).

  541. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/938518811396984832

    -Like father, like son.

    This is great!

  542. CG says:

    I have seen no credible allegation that George H.W. Bush (whom I was not old enough to have voted for) touched anyone inappropriately in the years before he was in his wheelchair. Assuming he is of sound mind still now (which I don’t think we know), he should not repeat what he did in a joking manner.

  543. Tina says:

    I rather mukkah corkwr or flake fraud run for drat president.. call it the unity ticket.

  544. CG says:

    NYC, I have played this “agree or disagree” game with you on here before, but if you want to list a specific issue and ask me what my view is, I will answer as best I can.

  545. NYCmike says:

    “I believe Corker and Flake are both looking at running for President in the 2020 Republican primaries.”

    -That will be entertaining!

    Iranians and squishes will be ecstatic!

  546. jason says:

    Over on the left-wing blog where I mostly post and fight with people, they claim that I support Trump “90 pecent” of the time”

    I feel your pain.

    Wobbie has called me a “Trump supporter” several times already.

    He also said this is a pro-Trump forum, which I disagree. Most here are not Trump supporters, even if they may support some of his policies.

    The Trump sycophants here that think he walks on water are less than 10.

  547. Tina says:

    He was not in a wheel chair in the early 2000s. There is at least one incident.

    An him being in a wheelchair is no excuse.

    His family doing nothing to stop this is worse perhaps.

    Flub laughed about it and mute 43 is well mute.

  548. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 6, 2017 at 5:18 pm
    I rather mukkah corkwr or flake fraud run for drat president.. call it the unity ticket.

    – I’d rather see you take on course on spelling and grammar.

  549. CG says:

    Most here are most certainly Trump supporters, whether they even realize it or not.

  550. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/george-h-w-bush-accuser-1992/index.html

    “All the focus has been on ‘He’s old.’ OK, but he wasn’t old when it happened to me,” she told CNN. “I’ve been debating what to do about it.”

  551. NYCmike says:

    “I have seen no credible allegation that George H.W. Bush (whom I was not old enough to have voted for) touched anyone inappropriately in the years before he was in his wheelchair.”

    -I recall that there were rumors of GHWB being with a younger woman at one time…..I did NOT believe them.

    Of course, NOW, allegations are the same as admissions of guilt, to some people.

  552. Tina says:

    The squish mullah ticket.

    Triggered by chants of lock her up and charmed by the mullahs.

  553. Tina says:

    I rather you stfu.

  554. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    “I believe Corker and Flake are both looking at running for President in the 2020 Republican primaries.”
    -That will be entertaining!
    Iranians and squishes will be ecstatic!

    – Never forget that NYCmike claimed a few months ago Lt. General McMaster was too soft on Iran because a Bannon ally leaked that smear to Breitbart or some other friendly outlet.

  555. jason says:

    I could support either Flake or Corker for President, especially Corker.

    But first I would have to be convinced they could actually win.

    At the moment I don’t see either one winning the nomination let alone the GE.

  556. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 6, 2017 at 5:22 pm
    I rather you stfu.

    – I’d rather you take off your tinfoil hat.

  557. Mr.Vito says:

    “In an interview with Time magazine published Monday, Roslyn Corrigan said she was 16 years old when Bush, then 79, touched her inappropriately at a November 2003 event in The Woodlands, Texas, office of the CIA, where her father had gathered with fellow intelligence officers and family members to meet Bush.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/politics/george-hw-bush-groping-allegation/index.html

    “CNN has not independently confirmed Corrigan’s account. Neither Corrigan nor her attorney, Gloria Allred, would comment on the matter to CNN Monday.”

  558. Tina says:

    Can either win dog catcher?

    They cannot win in arizona or tennessee sunce their peoples hate them. They are toxic.

  559. CG says:

    Not every accuser tells the truth. Not even every accuser who has accused Trump of sexually assaulting them. (he belongs on the list here though that gets posted every five minutes)

    The Trump fanatics are very upset that George H.W. Bush voted for Hillary and they hate the Bush Family in general, as we see here at times. So, when a specific person has all sorts of Infowar conspiracy theories about the Bushes on their social media and were early Trump supporters in the primaries, I consider them a bit suspect, especially since none of this was even remotely a rumor about Bush 41 in the years he was in office.

    In this particular case, the woman assumed at the time that there was incidental contact during a photo op. I don’t think a strong case exists against him but that people might have political motivations against a Bush, whether they are on the Far Left or the alt-right.

  560. Tina says:

    Your shirley temple awaits you at the lido deck, They have a big stack of newspapers for you to make paper planes, loon.

  561. CG says:

    Assuming Trump is still President and runs for reelection as a Republican, the way things in the party are now, he will tough to dislodge, although someone should definitely make the effort.

    My anticipation is that I would be supporting a John Kaisch Independent candidacy in the general election. I definitely believe he is planning to make that run under those circumstances.

  562. Tina says:

    Flakey is hated by all,

    It is different with mccain, maybe 40 pe4cent of rs hate him, but 70 percent of ds like him. Mccain can win, but flakey cannot.

  563. jason says:

    Most here are most certainly Trump supporters, whether they even realize it or not.”

    Ahhh, yes, the house psychologist is back.

    Most of us are what, subconscious Trump supporters?

    I love this place.

  564. Robbie says:

    I am highly dubious anyone can defeat Trump in the 2020 primary regardless of how unpopular he is nationally. No matter what he does, Trump will still have the support of the charlatans on talk radio like Rush, Levin, and Hannity. He will also continue to have the support of the prime time lineup at FoxNews. Unless those two groups break with Trump, he could have a 25% approval rating nationally and he’d still be re-nominated.

    At this point, I’m left to hop Trump doesn’t run again in 2020. If that were to happen. I would support Mike Pence without reservation.

  565. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 6, 2017 at 5:26 pm
    Your shirley temple awaits you at the lido deck, They have a big stack of newspapers for you to make paper planes, loon.

    – Have you had your session of shock therapy today, or do they give your temples a chance to cool down every few days?

  566. Mr.Vito says:

    “”We got closer together for a family photo and it was like ‘Holy crap!'” she said, describing the moment Bush touched her buttocks. “It was like a gentle squeeze.”

    In the moment, the woman said, she just smiled for the camera…

    …CNN has spoken with the woman’s ex-husband and her best friend, both of whom she told of the incident soon after it occurred.

    “I remember her coming home and her saying he (Bush) said (to her father), ‘Is that your daughter?’ or ‘Who’s that with you?’ and her dad said, ‘It’s my daughter,’ and he said, ‘Well, get her in the picture,'” the woman’s ex-husband said. “She tried to write it off as ‘move in closer’ — but no, it wasn’t. The hand definitely was across the butt. It wasn’t across the waist.””

  567. Tina says:

    (Via Reuters) […] “The job market is red hot, with broad-based job gains across industries and company sizes. The only soft spots are in industries being disrupted by technology, brick-and-mortar retailing being the best example,” Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics, said in a statement. “There is a mounting threat that the job market will overheat next year.”

    Zandi is a drat.

  568. jason says:

    I have seen no credible allegation that George H.W. Bush (whom I was not old enough to have voted for) touched anyone inappropriately in the years before he was in his wheelchair. Assuming he is of sound mind still now (which I don’t think we know), he should not repeat what he did in a joking manner.”

    I agree with this. I would take him off DW’s list but its not my list. I would also take Barton off.

  569. CG says:

    I think it’s fairly obvious that almost everyone here will defend Trump on anything. If he said today he was not supportive of recognizing Jerusalem as the capital, people would praise him for that and talk about how “the neocons who want endless war in the ME need to recognize it’s not their party anymore.”

    Anybody who would speak against Trump in anyway is defined as a troll or slandered as a Hillary voter. It all just leads to an Echo Chamber.

  570. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    December 6, 2017 at 5:26 pm
    Assuming Trump is still President and runs for reelection as a Republican, the way things in the party are now, he will tough to dislodge, although someone should definitely make the effort.
    My anticipation is that I would be supporting a John Kaisch Independent candidacy in the general election. I definitely believe he is planning to make that run under those circumstances.

    – A Kasich Independent run would go nowhere. He’s viewed as too moderate by the vast majority of the Republican Party and the Democrats who say they like him today are not going to choose him over a Democrat nominee.

  571. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    502. As to Bannon’s claim that Romney went on a Mormon mission to evade the draft:

    “In the draft including Romney, his number was 300. The highest number drafted from that draft was 195, so he wouldn’t have served.”

    Romney will be the next senator from Utah.

    Polls of shown that 78% of Utahns want Hatch to retire; 58% “definitely” want him out. At this point, Romney is in regardless if Hatch retires (and Hatch WILL retire).

  572. Robbie says:

    Joe Barton is slimey, but he was the victim of revenge porn.

  573. Tina says:

    Did bitterlaw figure how much $$$ went to the lawyahs on muleheads team? Expensive tax and process case. Big money spent so far on nothing.

    Btw, trump will pardon flynn.

  574. Tina says:

    Well, as far as groper 41, there were reports that he had extra marital affairs. In 1988, when he hijacked the reagan revolution and began selling out, One report was deemed false and who did the accusing….

    Donna Brazille, who was dismissed from Camp Dukakis.

  575. Mr.Vito says:

    So, GHWB and Moore both have 16 year old accusers lawyered up with Gloria Allred.

    https://wxxv25.com/2017/11/13/woman-says-george-h-w-bush-groped-her-when-she-was-16/

    ““As soon as the picture was being snapped on the one-two-three he dropped his hands from my waist down to my buttocks and gave it a nice, ripe squeeze, which would account for the fact that in the photograph my mouth is hanging wide open,” said Corrigan, now 30. “I was like, ‘Oh my goodness, what just happened?’”

    “My initial reaction was absolute horror. I was really, really confused,” she told TIME. “What does a teenager say to the ex-president of the United States?”

    Corrigan’s mother, Sari Young, confirmed Monday to NBC News her daughter’s remarks. Other friends also spoke with TIME to say Corrigan had told them what happened.”

  576. jason says:

    Anybody who would speak against Trump in anyway is defined as a troll or slandered as a Hillary voter”

    Zzzzz…. let’s see if I can find some negative things I said about Trump just on this thread.

    “I agree he is not profoundly ideological, although he has made some comments in the past that were pretty pro big government, like universal HC paid for by the government as an entitlement, Dems are best for the economy, and debt doesn’t matter just keep printing money.

    I think his liberal tendencies are kept in check by the political necessities of the moment.”

    and

    “We disagree. Both policies are short sighted, self defeating and frankly asinine.

    Both Nafta, which provides political stability to Mexico, and NATO which provides stability to the world in general, are squarely in America’s interest.

    Trump’s positions are populist garbage.”

    hmmmm…..

    hat I don’t support Trump on:

    – Protectionist rhetoric
    – Tariffs
    – Ending trade agreements like Nafta
    – Physical wall with Mexico
    – Anti-NATO rhetoric
    – Attacks on McCain, Flake, and Corker
    – Attacks on McConnell and Ryan”

    That was just on this thread.. nobody called me a troll or Hillary voter.

  577. CG says:

    The extra-marital affair rumor about Bush 41, (Jennifer Fitzgerald)which first appeared in Kitty Kelly’s sleazy Nancy Reagan bio (in which she claimed she was sleeping with Frank Sinatra in the White House and that Reagan himself had raped various starlets in Hollywood) was thrown out there by Donna Brazille in the ’88 campaign and was quickly discredited. Hillary Clinton herself tried to revive it in 1992 and all parties involved completely denied it and there was never anything credible to suggest.

  578. Tgca says:

    469 CG

    That is absurd! I’m very light skinned and most would never guess my Latin heritage but because I grew up in a Latin and AA neighborhood, I got discrimination from both Latino and white side, as well as by AA. I was referred to in derogatory manner by both sides due to my mix so unless you have personal experience, you should not extrapolate in areas you may not have personally experienced. It is not unusual for us “half-breeds” to experience just as much, if not more discrimination than people who identify just with one minority group because usually not any one group will completely accept you.

    On top of that, trying being a “Hot” gay male growing up in Latin and AA neighborhoods. It goes beyond discrimination and often into physical violence.

  579. jason says:

    My anticipation is that I would be supporting a John Kaisch Independent candidacy in the general election. I definitely believe he is planning to make that run under those circumstances.”

    I like Kasich, I voted for him in the PA primary since Rubio was gone.

    But I don’t see him winning as third party. IF Trump didn’t finish his term, I could see voting for him as a the Republican candidate.

    If Trump lost control of the party I would even consider re-registering as a Republican so I could vote in the primary.

  580. NYCmike says:

    “– Never forget that NYCmike claimed a few months ago Lt. General McMaster was too soft on Iran”

    -The allegations were out there……in that case, you didn’t believe them……funny how that works.

  581. CG says:

    589. I heard a rumor you were homely.

    You are bringing up something that was never said. The (brief) discussion back then was that Marco Rubio, who has a Latino sounding name and physical features would be more apt to face discrimination by bigots than a theoretical blond hair blue eyed “Jason Smith.”

    If you are making the point that someone might not be accepted within the community or referred to as a “half-breed” that is a different matter.

  582. Mr.Vito says:

    I am white white white.

    I have been asked by minorities whether I am whether I am black, hispanic, Filipino, asian, and Arab.

    I don’t get to deny my white privilege… bummer.

  583. NYCmike says:

    “I think it’s fairly obvious that almost everyone here will defend Trump on anything.”

    -List of liberal policies pushed……still nothing…..

  584. jason says:

    Tgca, if you are not brown and look like a caricature of an illegal swimming across the Rio Grande you can’t be Hispanic.

    Some kind of perverse reverse type of racism.

    Un perfecto idiota….

  585. Mr.Vito says:

    In Oklahoma, they though I was Native American.

  586. CG says:

    You should have been a professor at Harvard then.

  587. jason says:

    ist of liberal policies pushed……still nothing”:

    Let me help the poor bastards.

    Trump’s protectionist trade rhetoric is straight out of the playbook of the fat cat big labor union bosses, the AFL-CIO’s wet dream they couldn’t even get their liberal Dem friends to pass.

    Fortunately he hasn’t canned Nafta yet, or imposed a 50% tariff on China yet, maybe he is getting some good advice.

  588. Mr.Vito says:

    “You should have been a professor at Harvard then.”

    I KNOW, RIGHT!?

  589. NYCmike says:

    “Trump’s protectionist trade rhetoric”

    -AND WE ALL KNOW “RHETORIC” means that it becomes legislation…..like how Jerusalem became capital under Clinton, Bush, then Obama…….

  590. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not want to post a picture of Jason (to protect his identity). However, I wound a photo of a man who looks like Jason (but Jason does not wear that hat).

    http://free-resources.webs.com/image-american-natives/Ayayma%20man.png

  591. NYCmike says:

    “Fortunately he hasn’t canned Nafta yet, or imposed a 50% tariff on China yet, maybe he is getting some good advice.”

    -OR, maybe he understands that negotiating from a believable extreme tends to make the negotiations tilt more in your favor?

    SHOCKING!

  592. jason says:

    You should have been a professor at Harvard then.”

    Heh…

  593. CG says:

    To be brief, my main problem with Trump is not that he might be a secret liberal, although that is possible, but that he manifests an anti-American attitude towards our institutions.

    FBI, CIA, NSA, et al?- he thinks they are corrupt and has proclaimed his preference for the quasi terrorist Wikileaks organization.

    Putin has murdered political opponents and tramples all over freedom in Russia? – “America does a lot of killing too.”

    He says we cannot call out Russia for election meddling because “Putin doesn’t like it.”

    He typically (someone wrote a pretty good speech for him that he gave in Warsaw)fights against the concept of American Exceptionalism every bit as much as Obama did.

  594. jason says:

    -OR, maybe he understands that negotiating from a believable extreme tends to make the negotiations tilt more in your favor?”

    Ending NAFTA and a 50% tariff are not “believable extremes” anymore than cutting legal immigration by 50% was.

  595. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm
    “– Never forget that NYCmike claimed a few months ago Lt. General McMaster was too soft on Iran”
    -The allegations were out there……in that case, you didn’t believe them……funny how that works.

    – The allegation was a smear effort launched by Bannon because McMaster was purging the Bannites from the NSC. Not surprisingly, you fell for the smear. You seem to fall for a lot of things pushed Bannon though.

  596. jason says:

    Mr Vito I think if you don’t look like this you aren’t a real Hispanic according to Corey..

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/weather-mexico-spanish-mexican-hat-wet-pjun884_low.jpg

  597. Mr.Vito says:

    “Ending NAFTA and a 50% tariff are not “believable extremes” anymore than cutting legal immigration by 50% was.”

    If they had been more believable, it would have worried me more.

  598. Robbie says:

    In an article published in the Atlantic yesterday, it was claimed that Pence considered a “coup” during the Access Hollywood weekend. He told the RNC he would step in for Trump if he quit. The story also suggested Priebus told Trump if he dropped out Pence was ready to pick Condi Rice as his VP.

    Whether that story is true or not, I would love the opportunity to vote for a Pence/Rice ticket in 2020.

  599. CG says:

    I’ll take Pence over Trump in a heartbeat, but Pence is complicit in all this. He has to deal with it. I hope he becomes President before the next election (through non-violent means) and does not run in 2020. There’s me being sanctimonious. I enjoy it.

    Later.

  600. NYCmike says:

    ” Not surprisingly, you fell for the smear. You seem to fall for a lot of things pushed Bannon though.”

    -Have I mentioned McMaster once since then?

    YES? NO?

    Did Trump send the Iran deal back to the Senate saying that they need to certify Iran is living up to its end of the deal?

    That is what the July article said McMaster was AGAINST, decertification.

    Trump, in October, went against that advice, in terms of sending it back to the Senate.

    So, the “Bannon” story has some true elements in it, regarding McMaster’s approach to Iran.

  601. Mr.Vito says:

    The Democrats will never stop at Trump if they go after impeachment. They will try to take out Pence, too.

  602. jason says:

    I don’t see Trump as anti-American at all, he seems the opposite, almost too pro-American for my taste.

    I can see why he is suspicious of the idea that the Russians caused him to win, when to me (and him) Hillary caused her own demise.

    As for the institutions, there is plenty of evidence that Obama politicized them and turned a lot of government agencies into partisan institutions (such as the IRS for example). I don’t think you should generalize as Trump has done, but he does have a point.

    I think giving Putin a pass on his trampling of human rights in Russia IS a mistake.

  603. jason says:

    I hope he becomes President before the next election”

    “I would love the opportunity to vote for a Pence/Rice ticket in 2020.”

    It’s no surprise that both Corey and Wobbie want to reverse the results of the election.

    Shameful, but nobody ever accused either one of being a deep thinker or ability to see a bigger picture than their immediate petty gripes.

  604. NYCmike says:

    “FBI, CIA, NSA, et al?- he thinks they are corrupt and has proclaimed his preference for the quasi terrorist Wikileaks organization.”

    -I would like to trust these government departments founded in the last 110 years (FBI 1908, OSS 1941/CIA 1947, NSA 1952), but I do not have undying loyalty to them, and they must always be held accountable.

    A LOT of their activity could be considered corrupt, if presented in the correct way.

  605. Cash Cow TM says:

    echo chamber

    chrome beach

  606. Mr.Vito says:

    The FBI looks more corrupt by the day. They WISH they could go back to their image even 6 months ago.

  607. Waingro says:

    Josh Dawsey?Verified account @jdawsey1

    A bit of news: Trump is pushing Maine Gov. Paul LePage, also known for bombast and impolitic remarks, to run for the U.S. Senate.

  608. JC says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    “Fortunately he hasn’t canned Nafta yet, or imposed a 50% tariff on China yet, maybe he is getting some good advice.”

    -OR, maybe he understands that negotiating from a believable extreme tends to make the negotiations tilt more in your favor?
    ——————–

    It’s almost like he wrote a book about it or something.

  609. jason says:

    I don’t know which “Republican” I despise more, Rand Paul or Paul LePage.

    Maybe its a tie.

  610. Cash Cow TM says:

    We need the Biblical Solomon to appear here to decide some of these thorny issues.

    I be he would be lopping some things in half.

  611. jason says:

    Franken resignation story denied.

    “Still talking to family”.

    I think it will be hard to close the barn door now….

  612. NYCmike says:

    “A bit of news: Trump is pushing Maine Gov. Paul LePage, also known for bombast and impolitic remarks, to run for the U.S. Senate.”

    -That is stupid.

  613. NYCmike says:

    “Rand Paul or Paul LePage.”

    -This could be a “Wheel of Fortune” puzzle.

    Rand
    Paul
    Lepage

    similar to

    Dead
    End
    Er

  614. jason says:

    “An Arizona dad was so fed up with his 14-year-old daughter’s disciplinary issues he handed the girl a gun Sunday and told her to pull the trigger, police said. Ulys Laffette Bell IV, 38, of Fort Mohave, gave the 9mm handgun to his daughter Sunday and instructed her to commit suicide, the Mohave County Sheriff’s Office said.”

  615. Tina says:

    dra ??
    @RealSaavedra
    ·
    1h
    MSNBC’s Scarborough criticizes President Donald Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

    October 24, 1995: Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL) voted in favor of “Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995”, which was passed to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

    What changed @JoeNBC

  616. Tina says:

    Le page is still popular in maine, right?

  617. NYCmike says:

    Joe Scarborough was a “conservative Republican”….”CG” and Robbie told me so….

  618. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    DW
    Here is another name to add to The List:

    Retired NFL star Warren Moon is sued for sexual harassment
    Washington Post ^ | December 6, 2017 | Craig Whitlock

    I have wondered when the floodgates would open for professional sportsmen to be busted for sexual misbehavior. Maybe now!

  619. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 6:18 pm
    I hope he becomes President before the next election”
    “I would love the opportunity to vote for a Pence/Rice ticket in 2020.”
    It’s no surprise that both Corey and Wobbie want to reverse the results of the election.
    Shameful, but nobody ever accused either one of being a deep thinker or ability to see a bigger picture than their immediate petty gripes.

    – Shameful is spending the entire campaign as you did saying Trump is unfit to serve and then turning around and supporting him just because he won. That’s precisely what you’ve done because you’re a fraud.

    Also, I’d love to see Trump forced from office because he is a disgraceful and disgusting human being who has no business leading this country. Unfortunately, there aren’t any reasons to push him out right now other than his vileness (not enough) that you tacitly support through your repeated defenses of him.

    As for your pissy, whiny statement I want to overturn the results of an election, what about Al Franken? How come I don’t see you saying Franken shouldn’t be forced from office because that would overturn the will of the voters from 2014, you hack fraud?

  620. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 6:21 pm
    “FBI, CIA, NSA, et al?- he thinks they are corrupt and has proclaimed his preference for the quasi terrorist Wikileaks organization.”
    -I would like to trust these government departments founded in the last 110 years (FBI 1908, OSS 1941/CIA 1947, NSA 1952), but I do not have undying loyalty to them, and they must always be held accountable.
    A LOT of their activity could be considered corrupt, if presented in the correct way.

    – No wonder NYCmike is such a Trump fan. He’s as paranoid as Donnie is. It’s a conspiracy.

  621. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 7:06 pm
    “A bit of news: Trump is pushing Maine Gov. Paul LePage, also known for bombast and impolitic remarks, to run for the U.S. Senate.”
    -That is stupid.

    – Wrong. That statement is 100% accurate. Lepage is an idiot who says idiotic things.

  622. Tgca says:

    593 CG

    I’m many things, but homely is definitely not one of them. I have awesome skin complexion with no wrinkles and full thick wavy hair. I still have my nice pearly white straight teeth (and no braces ever). Granted, I’m not a go-go boy these days but if y’all want to see my mankini or thong or speedo pics to prove how I stay FABULOUS after all these years, I can link for all to see.

  623. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 6, 2017 at 7:13 pm
    Joe Scarborough was a “conservative Republican”….”CG” and Robbie told me so….

    – Richard Mourdock could win Indiana. NYCmike told me so.

    Sharron Angle could win Nevada. NYCmike told me so.

    Ken Buck could win Colorado. NYCmike told me so.

  624. Tgca says:

    …as for discrimination, I have been slurred for being Latin, white, gay, and Jersey for many years, and have seen how certain minorities are just as racist as whites so I don’t buy into that crap that in today’s world, certain groups suffer more. AA and Latino men in particular often targeted whites and gays with physical violence where I grew up. Just because you have not seen that or it’s not widely documented does not mean it does not happen. How many gays go and report they were beaten by AA and Latinos in NJ? Very few, and the reason was, until recently, nobody cared because the f*gs got what they deserved. This is what I learned growing up in Dem dominated places in northeast Jersey.

  625. lisab says:

    “I know, I know. NYCmike will say Moore hasn’t had a chance to defend himself so we all need to pretend he’s a good man.” robbie

    remember how offended robbie was because i said i think he is gay?

  626. jason says:

    How come I don’t see you saying Franken shouldn’t be forced from office because that would overturn the will of the voters from 2014, you hack fraud?:

    Hey moron, FRANKEN ADMITTED TO THE ALLEGATIONS.

    Are you really that stupid?

    Rhetorical…

  627. jason says:

    Also, I’d love to see Trump forced from office..”

    So you want to overturn the results of the election because your candidate lost…

    Talk about a whiney pussy loser…

  628. Tgca says:

    I did not know Robbie is GAY!!!

    I knew Michael was because he wore a salmon colored jacket.

    Thanks for the 411 LisaB.

    I think that makes 3 official gay members at HHR. Though I have my suspicions there are more, everyone needs their private space so no pressure for those deflectors.

  629. lisab says:

    Well, the court already decided the government can force you to buy something, so perhaps they will decide they can force you to provide a service.
    ———————————————-

    that was established by scotus long ago

  630. biomom says:

    628 Scarborough is a buffoon who has completely become unhinged by Trump hatred.

  631. Tgca says:

    Hey Robbie. I’ll be available in a few weeks to hang once my surgeon says it’s ok for me to be out and about after my spine surgery so let’s go to NYC and have dinner. I know a good vegan restaurant. You like grilled tofu in chili basil sauce and seasoned edamame I hope.

  632. jason says:

    Shameful is spending the entire campaign as you did saying Trump is unfit to serve and then turning around and supporting him just because he won”

    Hey, at least I recognized he won and moved on.

    The country is bigger than Trump, it doesn’t stop because your horrible excuse for a candidate lost.

    Yes, because he won I will support him on what I view is in the interest of the country. What is blind hatred going to accomplish exactly?

    While you are pining for Jeb, Trump appointed a conservative to the Supreme Court. He is filling judicial positions elsewhere with conservatives. He has a pretty good cabinet doing some pretty good things in their departments. It looks like he will succeed in reforming the tax code, ending the Obsmacare mandate, drilling in ANWR. He has put a lot of deregulation in place.

    These are positive things for the country, why should I not support them. I don’t have to like Trump to support what he is doing right.

    You are a petty, bitter, and sorry excuse for a human being if you can’t see anything good in the Trump administration. Oh yeah, you are still talking about Mika’s face. You realize how small that makes you look?

  633. jason says:

    You like grilled tofu in chili basil sauce and seasoned edamame”

    Puhhhhhlease….don’t make me vomit my steak dinner.

  634. Tina says:

    Also, I’d love to see Trump forced from office..”

    And I am republican,

    Jebot loon.

  635. jason says:

    Tgca, Wobbie is very anal retentive. See what you can do.

  636. Tgca says:

    Many thought Obama was unfit because he had no experience but at some point you have to let it go. The voters made a choice. Our political process worked.

    Now, it’s ok to criticize their POTUS actions but you got to just accept Trump is the rightful and legitimate POTUS at this time, and so far, he’s been pretty much pushing an agenda conservatives can support..

  637. Tina says:

    PEte the cheat and his mistress.

    10k emails. Hopefully, nothing bad, and hopefully not on gubment devices.

    http://thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/wow-doj-officials-reading-10000-texts-anti-trump-investigator-strzok-fbi-mistress/

  638. Tina says:

    Rottie loves paper planes and shirly temples.

    Skip the lido d3ck though.

  639. NYCmike says:

    ” so let’s go to NYC and have dinner.”

    -WTF!

    I am here every day! Just because my wife will be with us, a la Mike Pence, does that mean you can’t take me out!?!?

  640. Tgca says:

    Jason

    This is why you and I will never last together. I can’t eat cute lil animals anymore. I literally get sick thinking about it or have bad dreams. I had a horrible nightmare about one of my dogs last week that left me shaken for days because it felt so real.

    That being said, you can join Robbie and me in NYC for a veganfest. Shirley Temples or Perrier included.

  641. NYCmike says:

    “He’s as paranoid as Donnie is. It’s a conspiracy.”

    -So you think all of the people in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the IRS are objective, apolitical civil servants, especially those in leadership positions?

  642. Tgca says:

    Ok. NYC can join me and Robbie for dinner too. I’ll sit between you both to keep the peace. We should probably invite Michael too. God! I hope he doesn’t wear that dreaded salmon-colored jacket.

  643. Tina says:

    I never seem to get invited anywhere….

  644. lisab says:

    “Point of order. My cruise had finished when I started posting.”

    point of fact,

    a statement about a cruise is not a point of order

  645. NYCmike says:

    “– Wrong. That statement is 100% accurate. Lepage is an idiot who says idiotic things.”

    -Robbie,

    Not sure what you were trying to say, but I do know I was saying it is stupid for Trump to push Lepage to run for Senate.

  646. Tina says:

    Point if order, i thought maybe congress was in session?

  647. Trump says:


    jason says:
    December 6, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    Life is great for Flake.”

    I am sure its better for him than for a blood sucking parasite like you.”

    You are sure of s lot of nonsense, pimp. That’s you life.

  648. MichiganGuy says:

    #661 truer words were never spoken 🙂

  649. Tgca says:

    Sorry Tina, maybe if you left CA you would get more invitations. In my travels around the US, I think the most hated states are generally CA, NY, NJ and TX. If you drive through the southern US with CA, NY, or NJ plates, I would bet the chances of getting a ticket are statistically higher than other states. I would say the same if you had TX plates in most northeastern states or CA.

  650. Paul says:

    Franken admitted to a prank. Trump admitted to sexual assault.

  651. Trump says:

    Another update

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Donald Trump (R)
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  652. Tgca says:

    665 Paul

    Trump admitted to sexual assault? Oh really? Exactly when did he admit that?

  653. Redmen4ever says:

    History is a funny thing. When a person loses, you can say they never had a chance of winning. Especially if you’re a Calvinist. It was pre-ordained. In this view, what is called “a chance of winning” is really uncertainty, and when something passes from a future event to a past event, all that happens is that uncertainty gets resolved. But, if you look at things prospectively, and consider possibilities, you could say that a candidate in a close race could have won if things played out a little differently.

    Mourdock 44, Dem. 50, Libt. 6
    Buck 46, Dem. 48, others 6
    Angle 44, Dem. 50, NOTA and others 6

    With party unity, each of these could have won. I thought Romney should have sent VP candidate Paul Ryan into Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota and Montana, to nationalize the Senate races in those states. (I didn’t think he needed to appear with any of the Senate candidates.) But, Romney was trying to win Pennsylvania or Minnesota, thinking he had a chance of winning. Turns out, when uncertainty got resolved, he was a loser.

    Heck 45, Dem, 47, NOTA and others 8
    Ayotte 48, Hassan 48, Libt. 2, Day 2

    With party unity, each of these could have won. I though Heck and Ayotte shouldn’t have distanced themselves so much from Trump.

    O’Donnell 40, Dem. 57, others 3

    This candidate COULD NOT HAVE WON.

  654. Tina says:

    Coree, pass the bong.

  655. Redmen4ever says:

    Trump apologized for engaging in inappropriate banter back in the days he was in the entertainment industry. Franken’s prank was nothing. He was a comedian on a USO tour. He was deliberately being stupid.

  656. Redmen4ever says:

    This happened on Donald Trump’s watch. Is there no end to it!!!!!

    http://www.montclairlocal.news/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/120717_DairyAirLamp-1024×685.jpg

  657. Tgca says:

    670 Red

    There’s a difference between sexual banter and lewd jokes and sexual assault. The vast majority of men have made sexual banter or lewd jokes at some point but not committed sexual assault.

    Remember when Clinton and Vernon Jordan were sharing lewd jokes while golfing. Is that sexual assault too?

  658. Mr.Vito says:

    CASH COW!! FOR SHAME!!

  659. lisab says:

    “I have seen no credible allegation that George H.W. Bush (whom I was not old enough to have voted for) touched anyone inappropriately in the years before he was in his wheelchair.” corey
    ———————————

    Pre-Wheelchair George H.W. Bush Groped Me in 2006, Fourth Woman Accuses

    A former Republican state senate candidate in Maine, 29-years-old at the time, says former president grabbed her during a photo-op years ago

  660. Charles says:

    Steve Bannon goes after Mitt Romney and his sons for not serving in the military. What? What about Trump and his sons?

    What a special idiot.

    I was not a big fan of Mitt, but he’s an honorable man and would have been a very good president.

  661. Charles says:

    David Cop-A-Feel strikes again!

  662. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey – If you really lurk here, you cannot possibly call me a Trump supporter. The Trump supporters despise me. I can’t stand Trump. However, the alternative was worse.

  663. lisab says:

    “The Democrats will never stop at Trump if they go after impeachment. They will try to take out Pence, too.”

    if they run the house

    a double impeachment would make pelosi president

  664. jason says:

    Pre-Wheelchair George H.W. Bush Groped Me in 2006, Fourth Woman Accuses”

    He was born in 1924 so he was what, 82 here?

    Zzzzzzzz…

  665. jason says:

    “Franken admitted to a prank”

    So he is resigning over a prank?

    How noble of him!

  666. lisab says:

    “I’d love to see Trump forced from office because he is a disgraceful and disgusting human being who has no business leading this country. ”

    sucks living in a western democracy

  667. jason says:

    Tgca, I have eaten tofu, little white squares floating in miso soup at a Japanese restaurant.

    Tastes like soap.

    I prefer to eat cute little animals and big ugly ones too.

  668. jason says:

    I’d love to see Trump forced from office because he is a disgraceful and disgusting human being who has no business leading this country. ”

    Translation: I don’t like him because my candidate sucked and Trump kicked the crap out of him. For that reason I want to overturn the results of the election.

  669. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – I have met 3 Hedgehoggers – MD, WVAlly, and Walt. If you are ever in Philadelphia, I will buy you lunch.

  670. jason says:

    With party unity, each of these could have won.”

    Sorry, that is BS.

    There can be no “party unity” with deadender candidates.

    Buck, Mourdock and Angle were horrible candidates that alienated not only Independents, but Republicans too.

    Ayotte yes. Heck ran behind Trump suggesting he was doomed, but Ayotte ran ahead of him, so its hard to make the argument she should have been “closer” to him.

  671. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is not Mexican. Except on Conco de Mayo. But who isn’t Mexican on that date?

  672. jason says:

    Note Bitter never invites me to lunch even though I am only a few hours away.

    He must hate white Hispanics.

  673. jason says:

    you cannot possibly call me a Trump supporter.’

    Bitter, according to Corey and Wobbie, if you accepted the results of the election you are a Trump supporter.

  674. MichiganGuy says:

    Elizabeth Warren’s CFPB Used Secret “Slush Fund” To Funnel Billions Into Left-Wing Causes

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/busted-elizabeth-warrens-cfpb-used-secret-slush-fund-funnel-billions-left-wing-causes/

  675. jason says:

    Bitter if you buy me lunch I will take the train from Lancaster sometime.

  676. jason says:

    Damm, those Native Americans have billion dollar slush funds?

    Who knew?

  677. jason says:

    I drive by Walt’s house all the time on 81, but he never invites me either.

    He must hate white Hispanics.

  678. Tina says:

    You met md? Wow, he has done. 180, bl.

    Thanks for the offer.

  679. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – You have an open invitation. Maybe you can catch a ride with the Menonites headed to the Farmers Market in Wayne.

  680. jason says:

    I have been to NYC a bunch of times, NYC never invited me to dinner at his house.

    He must hate white Hispanics.

  681. Bitterlaw says:

    I did meet MD. I knew his name since he used to post it. He stopped posting for a period in 2009. He sounded really down so I drove over to check on him.

  682. Bitterlaw says:

    I have been to Boston 3 times. Lisab never invites me. The more I think about, you all suck.

  683. jason says:

    OK Bitter, you are buying lunch. But I will bring you some scrapple.

  684. Bitterlaw says:

    DCC

  685. Bitterlaw says:

    DamnCC.

  686. Tgca says:

    Bitter. I’m only an hour from Philly. Will you buy me lunch? I’ll let you wear one of my cardigans too.

  687. Tgca says:

    …just don’t be trying to grope me.

  688. Cash Cow TM says:

    “CASH COW!! FOR SHAME!!”

    Mr. Vito,

    What was that comment about?

  689. Tgca says:

    Years ago, we posted our pictures on here. Does anyone remember that section of HHR?

  690. Mr.Vito says:

    Mr.Bitter refuses to visit Florida ever again, so I can’t buy him lunch.

  691. Tgca says:

    Well Vito. I’m in FL for a bit. I’ll sit in for Bitter.

  692. lisab says:

    “I have been to Boston 3 times. Lisab never invites me.”

    maybe because i don’t live in boston

  693. NYCmike says:

    What are you going to “sit in”?

  694. Mr.Vito says:

    “Mr. Vito,

    What was that comment about?”

    Oh… act all innocent, huh?

    I saw the picture redmen posted.

  695. NYCmike says:

    “maybe because i don’t live in boston”

    -Does your dog bite?

  696. lisab says:

    why do corey and robbie always seem to appear and disappear at the same time?

  697. Bitterlaw says:

    707 I thought you drove there several times a week to load up on conceit.

  698. JulStol says:

    “you cannot possibly call me a Trump supporter.”

    So, you voted for him but didn’t support him? 😉

  699. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – where are you these days? New Hope is fabulous if you like ice cream and antiques.

  700. Tgca says:

    I’m in FL for a couple months. Then back to NY/NJ

  701. Mr.Vito says:

    “Well Vito. I’m in FL for a bit.”

    Yeah, but I’m still pretty far away from southeast FL.

  702. JulStol says:

    Bitter,

    I now work about 25 minutes away from you several days a week. I’d say let’s do lunch, but you won’t eat in front of me.

  703. NYCmike says:

    Julstol with one for the ages!

  704. Bitterlaw says:

    I have often thought of that distinction, Jul. You voted for and supported whomever inspired that conversation.

  705. Bitterlaw says:

    Where are you working, Jul? What town?

  706. Tgca says:

    I went to New Hope in Nov 2016 to visit friends. 1st time I was there since like the 90s. I just did the touristy walks about the shops.

  707. Bitterlaw says:

    I am watching Knightfall on History Channel? 20 minutes in, I am confused.

  708. Mr.Vito says:

    It was Kane, wasn’t it?

  709. Tgca says:

    Yo Vito

    Where in FL you located?

    You should drop down and visit. We could go to a foam party in Miami and meet Marco Rubio.

  710. Mr.Vito says:

    Gainesville.

  711. Cash Cow TM says:

    jason,

    Walt said you are free to stop by his house to visit when you are passing through.

    But do not come on Tuesdays (bridge days),
    nor on the 1st and 3rd Fridays (he has meetings)
    and Sundays are not good until after 1:30 (Sunday school, church and then out for brunch)

    If you stop by on Mondays you can help do laundry.
    And on Wednesdays you can help vacuum and dust and drive recycling stuff down to the recycle center.
    And the other days there may be other chores on the list you can help him do (lists Mrs. Walt leaves him)
    Call first as to and weekend visit–Walt and his missus gallivant a lot…

    Walt has more spare time now…since the yard work and other outside work has pretty much ceased.

    If you don’t mind climbing up the TV tower to check the antenna cable connections up there…and can solve Walt’s TV reception problems, Walt will treat you to both lunch and dinner.

  712. Mr.Vito says:

    I want answers Cash Cow!

    You could have posed for Chik-Fil-A instead!

    Disgraceful!

  713. Cash Cow TM says:

    Mr. Vito,

    The court records stated that image of me and my tattoo would remain sealed.
    #########################################
    Someone is going to be in BIG trouble now.
    (it is a cute heart tattoo though, don’t cha think)

  714. Mr.Vito says:

    “it is a cute heart tattoo though, don’t cha think”

    Ok, you’re right.

    Melania became first lady, so I’ll give you a pass, too.

  715. JulStol says:

    Bitter,

    Not posting where I work publicly. “Anna” and “Kevin” are still out there (I know their real IDs now, though) and I like my (nonpolitical) job very much.

  716. lisab says:

    I thought you drove there several times a week to load up on conceit.
    —————————————–

    only someone from philidelphia would think of driving in boston

  717. Cash Cow TM says:

    Gainesville

    evil leasing
    live gal sine
    I leave sling
    sling a evil E
    single vial E
    senile G vail
    E village sin

  718. lisab says:

    Not posting where I work publicly. “Anna” and “Kevin” are still out there
    ————

    who were they? no need for names, just in general

  719. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – I just meant the town. I understand.

  720. JulStol says:

    Bitter,

    If I stated the town, finding me/where I work would be easy enough (that should be enough of a clue for you).

  721. Bitterlaw says:

    Anna and Kevin or Anna/Kevin hounded Jul out of office over being the Roy Moore of Allentown.

  722. lisab says:

    julstol,

    weren’t you getting married at a ren faire? i play music sometimes. here is my last one. the guy in the back, with the beard, in the vest is my hubby … he is a little toasted 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82Gt7sqHU8

  723. MichiganGuy says:

    lisab = The Hot Violinist who knew?

  724. JulStol says:

    LisaB,
    That was the plan. We’ve decided on a small ceremony in October of next year. Same woman.

    Bitter,
    Yuge difference between me being 20 at the time and Moore’s mid 30s. For the record, I believe he did it. Yes I would vote for him, though not in a Primary.

  725. lisab says:

    well … it could be me … if i played the violin … or music of any kind …

    if i could spend my time going from ren faire to ren faire would i be working with crazy children? i don’t think so! 🙂

    so today, i am doing a lesson on digraphs and i am being taped. everything is going really well. this is going to be spectacular … it will be another great episode in my teaching portfolio!

    sooooooo i am almost done when one of the students gets upset with me for not calling on him, he throws his pencil and flashcards at me and then throws himself on the ground! then … this other child who is not allowed on camera wants to get something from his cubby … which is in camera … and two boys start pushing each other …

    so close!

  726. lisab says:

    That was the plan. We’ve decided on a small ceremony in October of next year
    —————————————–

    honestly i would go with the ren faire …

    so much less work and a lot more fun

  727. JulStol says:

    The way we wanted to do it at Ren Faire isn’t an option. They won’t rent out the spaces we wanted to use.

    Courthouse then karaoke reception at a local restaurant. Done and done.

  728. lisab says:

    the worst part about the incident today is that it was in an 8:1:1 classroom, meaning i 8 children, 1 teacher and an aide.

    the aide is taping and watching the other children, everything is going great! she steps out for two minutes to get a cup of coffee and when she comes back in … one child is on the floor, two are fighting and flashcards are everywhere ….

    and i’m just … totally chill … “can you two boys stop pushing each other please … ”

    ren faire musician is starting to look pretty good

  729. JulStol says:

    LisaB,

    If you were buying a book as a Christmas gift for someone who enjoys a glass of wine (and/or vodka, apparently…) and reading true crime/serial killer novels after work, what piece of literature would you recommend?

  730. lisab says:

    why not courthouse and then ren faire?

    i say this only because it would be very unique

    and you would only need to buy your guests tickets, and, food and mead coupons 🙂

  731. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    724. “We could go to a foam party in Miami and meet Marco Rubio.”

    Oh no. Here we go again.

    You know, there was a movie about Steve Bannon attending a foam party. It was named: “The Night of the Iguana.”

  732. mnw says:

    lisab 739

    Very good! I liked the video. We have an assortment of interesting folks here.

  733. JulStol says:

    Refaire mead is rubbish compared to the stuff from a place here in the LV. Shame I’m off alcohol this year but the 87lb weight loss is well worth once again being a tee(tea ;))totaler

  734. lisab says:

    vodka is an easier buy than wine … for wine you need to know if they like white or red, dry or sweet and if you buy the wrong kind they will not like it.

    a good vodka, if such a thing exists, tastes like windex anyway, so you cannot go wrong. i’d buy finnish vodka.

    for a book … i would go with a jack the ripper book. you really cannot go wrong with the first modern serial killer for christmas!

    https://www.amazon.com/Jack-Ripper-Files-Illustrated-Whitechapel/dp/0233004734/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1512620894&sr=8-2&keywords=jack+the+ripper

  735. MichiganGuy says:

    The Economist/YouGov Poll December 3 – 5, 2017 – 1500 US Adults

    74. Do you think Roy Moore should drop out of the race for U.S. Senate?

    Republican, Independent

    Yes, he should drop out 29%, 39%

    No, he should not drop out 40%, 20%

    Not sure 31%, 41%

    So, only 29% of Republicans and 39% of Independents believe Moore should drop out. You wouldn’t think that listening to the msm. Also most dullards in here.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/jhdmzhxe6k/econTabReport.pdf

  736. JulStol says:

    Lisab,

    They’re also getting a bottle of mead (and they’re very excited about it) to go with the book.

    Your recommendation is appreciated.

  737. lisab says:

    Very good! I liked the video. We have an assortment of interesting folks here.
    ——————————-

    sorry mnw, that is not me 🙁

    just in spirit

  738. mnw says:

    So much back & forth about who supports Trimp & when!

    I didn’t use to. Now I do. Questions?

    Seems so simple to me. (“People ev’rywherr jes wanna be free!”)

  739. lisab says:

    that particular book is not very in depth, it is a glossy overview of the murders, but i like it.

    i am fascinated by jack the ripper. i think if they like serial killers and true crime, a book about jack is a good choice.

    you have to be careful about mead too. do they like sweet or dry and carbonated or not?

    try to casually ask if they like sweet or dry wines. most people today prefer sparkling dry mead

    but real mead was probably flat and sweet

  740. mnw says:

    lisab

    I thought the bearded guy was your hubby? Are you in the group?

  741. lisab says:

    mnw,

    no … it was a joke …. i posted that video on hhr a few years ago … when i was itching to go on walkabout.

    although i could be her sister, my husband is considerably bigger than that man, and he would never dance on video.

  742. Cash Cow TM says:

    A Seasonal Musical interlude!

    EVERYbody sing!
    ******************************
    Little (‘Stuart Smiley’) Drummer Boy

    Come, over close to me
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    I am your senator (D.C.)
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    I have the right to grope you
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    I wanna touch your hoo hoo
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    Rum pum pum pum. rum pum pum pum
    Then he pinched me on my bum, he’s a big bum.

    Said: “he is hung”
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    Invaded me with his tongue
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    He rubbed his paw on my thigh
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    I jabbed him in his perv eye
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    Rum pum pum pum, rum pum pum pum
    Then he pinched me
    Pa-rum pum pum pum
    Right on my bum.

  743. lisab says:

    what is wrong with foam parties?

    i mentioned that rubio went to a foam party, and we will never hear the end of it …

  744. MichiganGuy says:

    2018 National House Race –

    Democrat 40%

    Republican 38%

    (Politico/Morning Consult 12/1-12/3)

    https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/171117_crosstabs_POLITICO_v1_AP-1.pdf
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Only down by 2%? What happened to the doom and gloom of Trump weighing down the GOP? LOL

  745. Cash Cow TM says:

    And ANOTHER…
    (sung to the tune of Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer)
    #####################################
    You know Weiner and Weinstein and Conyers and Lauer,
    you know Spacey and Horowitz and Nassar and Ratner,
    But do you recall….
    The most famous perv/creep of all…

    Roy Moore the young-girl stalker
    Had a young-girl radar hose
    And when he saw the young-girls
    You should see how his thing grows.
    All of the same-age women
    Used to laugh and call him names
    They never let poor Roy Moore
    Join in any foreplay games.

  746. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    761. “Only down by 2%? What happened to the doom and gloom of Trump weighing down the GOP? LOL”

    Do you know what you have done? Now Robbie is going to go climb the highest cliff on Bogo Pogo and jump. You ruined his vacation.

  747. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    760. “i mentioned that rubio went to a foam party, and we will never hear the end of it …”

    That is because you kept bringing it up. You really did not like him.

  748. lisab says:

    corey kept bringing it up

    rubio said he went to a foam party on national television, it is not like it was a secret

    i think he met his wife at a foam party.

    (i actually thought he was handsome, but no, i am not a fan. i think he is too young and callow to be president)

  749. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rubio was young and brash to run. But it was impressive he ran again for the Senate and won; which was far from certain to happen.

    He also has keep a good profile recently; supporting Trump but at the same time establishing an independent presence.

  750. jason says:

    Rubio is 46, not too young to be President, he just looks younger than he is.

  751. jason says:

    I certainly would have preferred him as President than Trump.

  752. Bitterlaw says:

    Jul – Please do not get married with a Renaissance theme wedding. Your wedding is not supposed to be fun. It is a serious moment in your lives. You can be odd every other day of your lives.

  753. mnw says:

    RRH moderators now speaking off-handedly about “a likely wave” election,as if it were “a likely sunrise” tomorrow.

    Today RRH moderators have Moore as a “deviant.” Yesterday he was a “child molester” & a “child predator.”

    A lot of people,!including me, have noticed that Drudge has made a left turn. Guess they want to go to the Georgetown cocktail parties with the real journalists.

  754. DW says:

    RRH is a left-wing site now. They are totally gone. They should just be honest and change the name to BRH – Blue racing horses.

  755. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A new Alabama Senate Poll showing Moore(R) +3.

    https://www.facebook.com/rickshaftan/posts/10212325859514463

  756. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #773
    Left wing with a sprinkling of Never Trumpers and GOP eeyores!

  757. Todd McCain says:

    In that poll 68% of undecided voters are conservatives. I think Jones is toast.

    I said weeks ago that I felt Moore was still going to win.

  758. Todd McCain says:

    I would rather win with a significant cost than lose and have even more momentum go to the Dems.

  759. NYCmike says:

    Lucky 777!’s!

  760. JC says:

    DW says:
    December 7, 2017 at 9:13 am

    RRH is a left-wing site now. They are totally gone. They should just be honest and change the name to BRH – Blue racing horses.
    ————————

    Yep. Most of the commenters there are now democrats.

  761. jason says:

    Drudge doesn’t really like Moore, hardly means a “left” turn.

    Drudge is more libertarian than conservative to start with, he has always given Rand and Ron Paul passes on their idiocies.

  762. jason says:

    Lucky 777!’s!”

    Hmmm… heading to cas-no now.

  763. Paul says:

    Sounds like Trump is going to shut down the government. What a loser. Hopefully, the stock market collapses on him.

  764. Paul says:

    mnw: When the world appears to make a left turn, maybe they are standing still while the Trumpers spin.

  765. DW says:

    I love it when the government shuts down. I wish we could have more of it. Get people used to the idea that the sun still rises in the east and sets in the west even though the chambers in congress sit empty.

  766. jason says:

    Sounds like Trump is going to shut down the government.”

    LOL

    Actually its the Dems that are shutting it down.

    Talk about spin….

  767. jason says:

    Paul is afraid that of shutdowns because he worries that people might find out they don’t need that much government.

  768. mnw says:

    jason

    I sense that Drudge is not just anti-Moore, although they are certainly that. I thing their coverage of muh Russia (h/t Tina) has been decidedly pro-Mueller.

  769. JC says:

    Paul says:
    December 7, 2017 at 10:06 am

    Sounds like Trump is going to shut down the government. What a loser. Hopefully, the stock market collapses on him.
    ——————–

    You think the democrats shutting down the government over amnesty will be good politically for them?

    Please please please liberals, do this.

    You’ll be hearing Trump tweet to the heavens everyday about how obstructionist democrats are taking your paycheck away to grant amnesty to illegal aliens.

    The party out of power, who has done nothing but talk impeachment approximately 2.6 seconds after it was apparent Trump would win, forcing a shutdown over amnesty?

    I cannot imagine any scenario where Trump or the GOP wouldn’t benefit politically from this.

  770. jason says:

    I usually oppose shutdowns if done for grandstanding purposes. That is why I thought Cruz’s deadender antics were stupid and self-defeating and accomplished nothing.

    In this case, the Dems want to grandstand because they want to force DACA on Trump.

    It will be stupid and self-defeating and accomplish nothing.

  771. mnw says:

    I hope the DEMs shut down the govt over illegal immigration every month!

  772. JC says:

    mnw says:
    December 7, 2017 at 10:21 am

    jason

    I sense that Drudge is not just anti-Moore, although they are certainly that. I thing their coverage of muh Russia (h/t Tina) has been decidedly pro-Mueller.
    —————–

    Drudge is about clickbait headlines. Always has been, and always will be.

  773. jason says:

    hing their coverage of muh Russia (h/t Tina) has been decidedly pro-Mueller.”

    Wow, I don’t see that at all, his coverage of the Flynn plea deal was very anti-Mueller, with a sarcastic headline Merry Xmas, Mr. Mueller or something like that.

    I think most of his coverage on Mueller implies he thinks its a big overreach.

  774. jason says:

    I cannot imagine any scenario where Trump or the GOP wouldn’t benefit politically from this.”

    Well, the MSM will blame Trump and Republicans.

    And they will trot out the usual stories about who is suffering terribly from the heartless shutdown.

    So the MSM will not portray it as being over DACA, it will be over the heartless Republicans who are making people who need government services desperately suffer terribly.

  775. Todd McCain says:

    Paul,

    The dems are going to shut down the government over the Dreamers? Please, let them do it…..would be a gift to the GOP.

  776. jason says:

    Trump will counter with tweets.

    Wobbie will be critical, he doesn’t like it when the MSM narrative is challenged.

  777. Wobbles says:

    2018 National House Race –

    Democrat 40%

    Republican 38%

    (Politico/Morning Consult 12/1-12/3)”

    Don’t believe this. Everyone I met in Bogo Pogo and Waga Waga is voting for the Democrats.

  778. mnw says:

    Well, Drudge may have tilted back our way since the “FBI bias” started.

    But I thought before that recent development, Drudge was running a lot of “Pence Is Ready!” & “Experts Say Trump WILL Be Impeched In ‘18!” links.

    Maybe I’m just hypersensitized to the fakenews Niigara Falls If b******t.

    RE: new AL poll in post 718

    That’s a Moore internal, but it looks solid to me from a methodology standpoint, although I’m no expert whatsoever. It concerns me a bit that heretofore, Moore’s campaign has said they had a consistent +5 lead in their tracker.

    I agree with whoever posted that Moore winning is the lesser of the 2 evils, but Moore winning certainly will be a huge albatross too. “Albatross Roy” has a nice ring to it in fact.

  779. JC says:

    jason says:
    December 7, 2017 at 10:29 am

    I cannot imagine any scenario where Trump or the GOP wouldn’t benefit politically from this.”

    Well, the MSM will blame Trump and Republicans.

    And they will trot out the usual stories about who is suffering terribly from the heartless shutdown.

    So the MSM will not portray it as being over DACA, it will be over the heartless Republicans who are making people who need government services desperately suffer terribly.
    ——————–

    Yeah I know. I was going to post a long winded comment about how the media will portray this and why it won’t work anymore but decided to stay pithy.

    Basically, it won’t work because;

    1) Trump has a big mouth. The biggest, most bombastic mouth. Believe me! (He won’t roll over and let the left define the narrative.)

    2) The internet. The media is rapidly losing its ability to control the narrative. People think fake news is stating lies. Fake news is actually far more insidious. It’s only reporting certain facts while selectively ignoring others in order to create a fake narrative. And thanks to the internet the media can’t hide the facts they don’t like anymore.

    The media doesn’t have the ability to hide the fact that dems are shutting the government down due to amnesty. And even if they did, Trump wouldn’t let them.

  780. mnw says:

    sb “Niagara Falls of”

  781. mnw says:

    I agree with JC— insufficient lipstick for THAT pig.

  782. Paul says:

    Todd McCain hates America.

  783. Paul says:

    JC: No one believes a word from Trump anymore. Let his mouth roar.

  784. Todd McCain says:

    Paul,

    GFY

  785. Bitterlaw says:

    The Democrats will hurt themselves with a government shutdown. Trump will hurt himself by his response to it. Both can be true.

  786. Todd McCain says:

    Mueller’s probe is effectively tainted at this point.

  787. mnw says:

    “Nobody believes a word Trump says any more”

    Reminds me of Pauline Kael’s famous statement, “I can’t understand how Nixon won. I don’t know anybody who voted for him.”

    Troll-y needs to get out of muh bubble.

  788. mnw says:

    I’m surprised it’s ONLY one in three.

  789. DW says:

    Sort of quiet today…

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  790. jason says:

    “Nobody believes a word Trump says any more”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    This was the MSM meme leading up to the election.

    How did that work out for you?

  791. DW says:

    810 – Turns out people believed Hillary even less.

  792. Bitterlaw says:

    The Russia probe is politically motivated. The White water/Lewinsky/Flowers/etc. probe was politically motivated. Both can be true.*

    *Clinton was a scumbag who committed perjury but he was never going to resign or be removed from office.

  793. Chicon says:

    Jim Jordan brought some heavy lumber in questioning Wray. Accused The Stork of dressing up the dossier and presenting it to the FISA court.

  794. jason says:

    I agree with whoever posted that Moore winning is the lesser of the 2 evils, but Moore winning certainly will be a huge albatross too. “Albatross Roy” has a nice ring to it in fact.”

    There is no good outcome. It’s a PR disaster either way.

    For me the best outcome is that he wins by one vote and then gets kicked out of the Senate, or better yet, resigns.

  795. jason says:

    White water/Lewinsky/Flowers/etc. probe was politically motivated. ”

    I don’t agree.

    That is a Dem talking point.

  796. mnw says:

    I certainly don’t think Lewisnski was politically motivated. He brought that on himself, & he would be removed from office for it today.

  797. jason says:

    There was no Flowers probe.

    One can make the argument Starr was a Republican and biased but the facts that originated the Lewinsky probe were indisputable and given the nature of the allegations and Linda Tripp’s statements it was impossible to avoid an investigation.

  798. DW says:

    The news isn’t all bad with a Moore win…if he wins.

    1. He is 70 years old. Should he serve three years to finish the term, and then run for re-election he would be 73, and would be a great candidate to primary.

    2. He is but one senator, and despite the media’s attempts, will not be able to credibly be cast as the face of the GOP–especially with so many members calling him out.

    3. Trump is president, and has a pretty good capacity to suck all the oxygen out of the room. Trump is most like Teddy Roosevelt in this regard. Roy Moore is a blow-hard, but as hard as he can blow, Trump can blow harder.

    4. There is always the chance more accusations would come out after he wins (again if), and if those accusations come, calls for his resignation and expulsion would be loud, long, and effective.

  799. jason says:

    As for Whitewater, where is the “political motivation” exactly?

    “A March 1992 New York Times article published during the 1992 U.S. presidential campaign reported that the Clintons, then governor and first lady of Arkansas, had invested and lost money in the Whitewater Development Corporation. The article stimulated the interest of L. Jean Lewis, a Resolution Trust Corporation investigator who was looking into the failure of Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan, also owned by Jim and Susan McDougal.

    Lewis looked for connections between the savings and loan company and the Clintons, and on September 2, 1992, she submitted a criminal referral to the FBI naming Bill and Hillary Clinton as witnesses in the Madison Guaranty case. Little Rock U.S. Attorney Charles A. Banks and the FBI determined that the referral lacked merit, but Lewis continued to pursue the case. From 1992 to 1994, Lewis issued several additional referrals against the Clintons and repeatedly called the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Little Rock and the Justice Department regarding the case.[2] Her referrals eventually became public knowledge, and she testified before the Senate Whitewater Committee in 1995.

    David Hale, the source of criminal allegations against the Clintons, claimed in November 1993 that Bill Clinton had pressured him into providing an illegal $300,000 loan to Susan McDougal, the Clintons’ partner in the Whitewater land deal. The allegations were regarded as questionable because Hale had not mentioned Clinton in reference to this loan during the original FBI investigation of Madison Guaranty in 1989; only after coming under indictment himself in 1993, did Hale make allegations against the Clintons. A U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation resulted in convictions against the McDougals for their role in the Whitewater project. Jim Guy Tucker, Bill Clinton’s successor as governor, was convicted of fraud and sentenced to four years of probation for his role in the matter.[5] Susan McDougal served 18 months in prison for contempt of court for refusing to answer questions relating to Whitewater.

    Neither Bill Clinton nor Hillary were ever prosecuted, after three separate inquiries found insufficient evidence linking them with the criminal conduct of others related to the land deal. The matter was handled by the Whitewater Independent Counsel, Kenneth Starr. The last of these inquiries came from the final Independent Counsel, Robert Ray, (who replaced Starr) in 2000. Susan McDougal was granted a pardon by President Clinton before he left office.”

  800. NYCmike says:

    “The White water/Lewinsky/Flowers/etc. probe was politically motivated. Both can be true.*”

    -Ridiculous to lump ALL of these together.

  801. mnw says:

    DW

    3 years seems like a GULP… very long time right now. Moore will be featured in all the DEM ads for ‘18, & they’ll dust off “Republican culture if corruption” again — Pelosi last used that in the Mark Foley days.

  802. jason says:

    Franken resigns.

  803. NYCmike says:

    I see others already responded…..

  804. Paul says:

    Now it is Trump’s turn to resign.

  805. Phil says:

    Don’t hold your breath, Paul.

  806. Paul says:

    There’s abundant evidence and Trump’s own words admitting to sexual assault.

  807. NYCmike says:

    Ok, Paul.

    Tweet to him, and ask.

  808. mnw says:

    Join Wobbles on Fantasy Island, troll-y. Say hi to Tatoo. Liberals have such great fantasy lives.

  809. Phil says:

    Ok, Paul. Say Trump resigns. Pence becomes President. I thought you libs were laughing it up about Pence not dining with women not his wife. Mocked and made fun of him repeatedly.

    Which is it, buddy?

  810. mnw says:

    Last I looked, liberals were a wee bit short of a 2/3 majority.

    I’m not gonna be played, & it looks like Alabamans refuse to be played either.

  811. NYCmike says:

    Franken resigned….so does that mean both his seat and Klochubars will be up for election in 2018?

    Wouldn’t that give a Republican a better chance to be elected? Split power to ensure good behavior? Seek an Establishment-type to go up against Klochubar, and a Trump/Bannon-type for the other seat?

  812. mnw says:

    NYC

    Both up, yes.

    I think it hurts GOP chances, not helps them. Klobuchar is very popular.

  813. Chicon says:

    832 – agree, her supporters will increase dem turnout.

  814. Trump says:

    “Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm”

    I have been assured that there is no Deep State trying to undermine the 2016 elections.

  815. Phil says:

    834

    What? You don’t doubt those assurances?

  816. Bitterlaw says:

    Flaming lib Franken will be replaced by another flaming lib. The Dems can now focus all attention on Moore without distractions like Franken and Conyers.

  817. Phil says:

    Scarborough spent another show today going on and on how Trump has dementia. Had several Never Trumper Republicans on who “verified” Trump’s mental slippage.

    Ok then. That’s good enough for me!

  818. mnw says:

    “Dementia” is the new collusion!

  819. Phil says:

    Joe and Mika are absolutely convinced of it. What else do you need?

  820. jason says:

    and a Trump/Bannon-type for the other seat?”

    Translation: let’s run a deadender!

  821. jason says:

    Harold Ford makes the list?

    “Former Democratic Congressman Harold Ford Jr. has been fired for misconduct by Morgan Stanley after facing a human resources investigation into allegations of misconduct, a company spokeswoman confirmed.

    “He has been terminated for conduct inconsistent with our values and in violation of our policies,” a spokeswoman for Morgan Stanley told HuffPost in an email.

    At least one woman, who is not a Morgan Stanley employee but interacted with Ford in a professional capacity, was interviewed by Morgan Stanley’s HR department as part of the investigation.”

  822. Todd McCain says:

    I wonder if the DEMS would have been so forceful if MN didn’t have a DEM governor……

  823. mnw says:

    The MN GOP bench is not deep, & The Wisemen at RRH say no GOP congressman is likely to run. They say former GOP guv Pawlenty is one serious possibility, but he’s been a D.C. lobbyist for the last 5 years.

  824. jason says:

    Harold Ford will always be famous for being on the other end of one of the best political takedowns I ever saw, rivaling Rubio’s takedown of Jeb in the debate.

    He showed up uninvited at a Corker press conference hoping to make a splash for the cameras in their Senate race, and said to Corker “I know you are here to talk about my family” and Corker said “no, no. I am here to talk about YOU”!

    Ford, who had some momentum and was actually ahead in some polls, couldn’t think of a follow-up and the rest was history.

  825. jason says:

    I beat Mr. Vito to the punch on Ford?

    I can retire for the day.

  826. Trump says:

    “Strzok, who was an FBI counterintelligence agent, had worked on the Mueller probe, but was reassigned to the FBI’s human resources division after the discovery of anti-Trump text messages with Page, with whom he was having an affair. Page was briefly on Mueller’s team, but since has returned to the FBI.”

    Nothing to see here, move on.

    Where the heck is the Attorney General?

  827. jason says:

    Franken didn’t actually resign.

    He will do so “in the coming weeks”.

  828. jason says:

    Paul, you should apply for an FBI job while the going is good, you can show your anti-Trump posts here to Strzok.

  829. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=_JfBz2ZSkpM

    Rick Scott praises Trump from the Wailing Wall while on a trade mission.

  830. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Franken will resign in 55 weeks or the day his Democrat replacement is sworn in (whichever comes first).

  831. Wobbles says:

    And Rick Scott is from the same state as Jeb, too.

    Where is the loyalty?

    He is dead to me forever.

  832. jason says:

    Breaking News – Franken will resign in 55 weeks or the day his Democrat replacement is sworn in (whichever comes first).”

    Dayton:

    I will appoint a replacement for Franken when he resigns.

  833. Todd McCain says:

    He should have resigned immediately. POS.

  834. jason says:

    Bernie Sanders asked Trump to resign.

    I wonder if he asked Bill Clinton to resign?

  835. jason says:

    He should have resigned immediately. POS.”

    Might as well get a few more paychecks….

  836. Todd McCain says:

    Franken thinks he got rail roaded and his speech proved it. WOW. No apology!

    So self serving!

  837. Trump says:

    “NOT FUNNY: FRANKEN ENDS SENATE RUN…

    CALLS ACCUSERS LIARS…”

    Then why is he resigning?

    I believe he will not resign, once Roy Moore is elected.

  838. jason says:

    Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm”

    Maybe that answers Soccer Moron’s question of where is Jeff Sessions….

  839. NYCmike says:

    Franken resignED, or is resignING?

    Is he still in the Senate?

  840. Todd McCain says:

    He didn’t even resign….he said in the coming weeks.

    I seriously bet he reneges on that.

  841. Trump says:

    “ason says:
    December 7, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm”

    Maybe that answers Soccer Moron’s question of where is Jeff Sessions….”

    It doesn’t, pimp.

    If the AG was not hiding under his desk sucking his thumb, this turd would be fired.

  842. Trump says:

    Just like Trump fired Comey and Yates on the spot.

  843. Tgca says:

    782 Paul

    You hope the stock market crashes? Oh that’ll be good for America and the world. You realize that this would impact you and those you probably care for as well, riiiiiiiiiight?

    Reminds me of a radical lefty I knew in CA that used to wish for nuclear war to kill off the human race. That’ll certainly solve all our problems.

  844. NYCmike says:

    This Franken st uff sounds like a P R stunt.

  845. Trump says:

    Jeff Sessions is the stupidest AG this country has seen.

    A list that includes Janet Reno, by the way.

  846. Tgca says:

    802 John McCain hates America?

    I don’t know about that but McCain seems to hate many in the GOP and also seems to love the MSM, establishment especially when they stroke his ego.

  847. Todd McCain says:

    Sessions never should have recused himself but Comey should have been fired in January right from the beginning and Trump could have easily stated he wanted a clean slate; this way Trump wouldn’t be looking over his shoulder at this special counsel every week.

    It is out there to stage a coup by any means necessary.

  848. NYCmike says:

    “Jeff Sessions is the stupidest AG this country has seen.”

    -The “Wheels of Justice” should turn slowly, and then CRUSH the guilty. It has been only 10-11 months after 8YEARS of Obama. Unwinding that will take time!

  849. NYCmike says:

    Todd,

    AGREED. Just about all political appointees should have been replaced as soon as possible.

    That is a no-brainer for any President from a different political party.

  850. DW says:

    Harold Ford (D) – former congressman

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harold Ford (D) – former congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  851. Trump says:

    “The “Wheels of Justice” should turn slowly, and then CRUSH the guilty. It has been only 10-11 months after 8YEARS of Obama. Unwinding that will take time!”

    Crock. Justice delayed is justice denied.

  852. DW says:

    So Franken said that someday he would resign over this, but he slammed his accusers even though everyone has seen the photographic proof?

  853. Trump says:

    It didn’t take Trump time to can Comey and Sally Yates.

    Remember, Comey was touted as the “most powerful in Washington”?

  854. Trump says:

    “Comey Is Now the Most Powerful Person in Washington”
    – Bloomberg

    How long did that last?

  855. Trump says:

    “James Comey, American hero – The Week
    theweek.com/”

    “Trump and Comey Go Down Together
    The FBI boss made things easy on the President with his mistakes on Clinton’s emails and Russian meddling.
    by Eli Lake
    116
    May 10, 2017, 4:32 PM EDT

    “James Comey was the most powerful man in Washington. Or at least that’s what I wrote two months ago, following Comey’s explosive confirmation to Congress that there was an active FBI counterintelligence probe into possible collusion between President Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia during the 2016 election.

    I reasoned that it would be politically suicidal to fire the FBI director in the middle of an ongoing probe into the president’s associates. I was wrong. My column assumed that even Trump would abide by basic political norms, or for that matter basic political optics. The Trump does not abide. And here we are.”

    How the stupid change their failed myths.

  856. mnw says:

    Jones campaign enmeshed in controversy over ad that some AAs consider raciss. The ad shows a skeptical AA man, & the caption is, “Think if a black men abused high school girls they’d want to make him a senator?”

    I leave it to others to explicate why this is raciss, but…controversy there is.

  857. Cash Cow TM says:

    I hear the MN dems plan to run a fellow named Good to run if Pawlenty runs.

    It would be a Good and Pawlenty race.
    ______________________

    If the Rs instead go with Charles M. Nutton, then the Ds will nominate Maria Goodfer to have a
    Goodfer-Nutton race

  858. Paul says:

    I must say that CC’s “Fun with Words” is my main reason for visiting this blog.

  859. Mr.Vito says:

    Did anyone watch Jim Jordan take on Christopher Wray today? Wow.

  860. Mr.Vito says:

    “It would be a Good and Pawlenty race.”

    Is that what Charlie says?

  861. Mr.Vito says:

    (Charlie Cook)

  862. jason says:

    782 Paul

    You hope the stock market crashes?”

    Paul is just another America-hater, they are a dime a dozen.

  863. jason says:

    I have to agree that Sessions recusing himself over Dems whining about him seen in the same room with a Russian was pretty stupid.

    That being said, Sessions was smart enough to think Trump was a viable candidate when nobody else did.

    And contrary to Soccer Moron, he actually thought Trump would win.

  864. jason says:

    “Authorities in Georgia say a bystander shot a man who was attacking a deputy who had just given him a ride to a gas station.

    News outlets report Dawson County Sheriff Jeff Johnson said 52-year-old Sgt. Randy Harkness gave a courtesy ride to 30-year-old Justin Alan Foster on Tuesday, and tried to give him some money when Foster began striking him and trying to grab his gun.

    Johnson said a woman got out of her car and began firing at Foster, who ran into another parking lot and assaulted an elderly woman. Bystanders subdued him until officers arrived.”

  865. NYCmike says:

    ” Justice delayed is justice denied.”

    -What crime are they to be charged with? Partiality? Subjectivity? Political Bias?

  866. Mr.Vito says:

    I just read Franken’s ‘resignation’.

    Only thing he’s ever written that made me laugh… maybe Chuck wrote it.

  867. Mr.Vito says:

    “Justice delayed is justice denied.”

    Never say this within earshot of heaven… might regret it.

  868. Redmen4ever says:

    pew poll doesn’t pass the smell test – 33Rs to 51 Ds

  869. NYCmike says:

    He who farts in church sits in his own Pew poll.

  870. mnw says:

    What Pew poll? Can’t find it.

  871. Bitterlaw says:

    Justin Alan Foster

    This proves once again why you should always be suspicious of people who go by 3 names.

  872. NYCmike says:

    Moore MUST be elected now, to see if Franken really will resign.

  873. Paul says:

    NYCmike is still defending the child predator. Moore’s issues are far darker and terrible than Frankens.

  874. Bitterlaw says:

    I think that if Moore is elected, Franken will change his mind and not resign.

  875. Waingro says:

    Uh oh. Another competitive district up for grabs.

    Mark Hemingway?Verified account @Heminator
    6m6 minutes ago

    Whoa. Trent Franks expected to resign.

  876. Robbie says:

    Unskew! Unskew! But Rasmussen!

    John Harwood?
    @JohnJHarwood

    from new Pew poll today:
    –32% approve Trump job performance, 63% disapprove
    –59% think Trump campaign officials had improper contact w/Russians
    –27% of Rs think Trump officials had improper contact w/Russians

  877. Robbie says:

    Paul says:
    December 7, 2017 at 4:47 pm
    NYCmike is still defending the child predator. Moore’s issues are far darker and terrible than Frankens.

    – Moore hates McConnell. That’s all that matters to NYCmike.

  878. mnw says:

    Wobbles notwithstanding, RAS has Trump @ 44% JA today & CBS Morning Consult at 45%.

    I think it stuns the liberals that Trump & those who voted for him are right where they were on Election Day & fighting back very nicely, thx.

    Fakenews/DEMs expected us to cower in a fetal position. Too bad. Not happening, is it? Ask Ossoff. And pretty soon the trolls can ask Jones what went wrong, I hope.

  879. mnw says:

    I mistakenly thought Wobbles was saying RAS had dropped.

    But… CBS Morning Consult! Unskew!

  880. Robbie says:

    CBS has Donnie at 36%

    Morning Consult, an internet poll, has something different.

  881. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:02 pm
    And pretty soon the trolls can ask Jones what went wrong, I hope.

    – Amazing that the Trumpers have sunk so low they’ll be celebrating the election of a child predator to the Senate.

  882. mnw says:

    OK then, cabana boy.

    So I guess you feel pretty good about Jones, what with Trump such a shipwreck & all.

  883. NYCmike says:

    “child predators” have some of the highest recidivism rates of all crimes. yet Moore has NOT had any complaints against him since his marriage.

    The “evidence” against Moore is suspect. I would love to see some of these “crimes” be brought to trial, instead of what usually happens: allegation made, then they disappear after person drops out or is elected.

    I want Moore elected so that the accusers can have their day in court. If the crimes were committed, Moore will be thrown out of the Senate, and another election can take place. If he is found NOT GUILTY, Robbie and Paul can apologize for their un-christian acts at that time.

  884. NYCmike says:

    “– Moore hates McConnell. That’s all that matters to NYCmike.”

    -Just keep repeating that nonsense, Robbie, if it makes you feel better.

  885. NYCmike says:

    And, I most certainly do NOT HATE Mitchie.

    I believe he is NOT a conservative leader, he is a typical go-along-to-get-along-Senator, except in several instances where he deserves praise for doing what he should have done, for example, the Garland non-vote.

  886. mnw says:

    The damn thing SAYS “CBS Morning Consult,” fwiw.

  887. NYCmike says:

    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/12/07/moore-wins-franken-un-resigns-will-senate-democrats-back/

    -I’ll believe he is gone when the new person is sitting in his seat.

  888. mnw says:

    NYC is right about sex offenders having an extremely high recidivism rate. They rarely just quit cold turkey.

  889. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:11 pm
    OK then, cabana boy.
    So I guess you feel pretty good about Jones, what with Trump such a shipwreck & all.

    – Cabana boy? Interesting.

    I love the way Trumpers operate. Because I find Roy Moore to be vile human garbage, that somehow means I support Doug Jones. Wrong.

  890. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    My son is in Boy Scouts. We have to take Virtus training through the church affiliated with the Troop, and the Boy Scouts also have training videos and procedures which are pretty strict about certain things. One of the items both programs consistently point out is most sex offenders do NOT get reformed, so any information should be treated quickly and with all proper authorities.

  891. Robbie says:

    CBS News Poll done from December 3 to 5.

    Trump job approval 36%

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/CBS_News_Dec_7th_2017.pdf

  892. NYCmike says:

    “Because I find Roy Moore to be vile human garbage, that somehow means I support Doug Jones”

    -Robbie,

    Which person do you want to win the Alabama Senate special election?

    Moore or Jones?

  893. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, the devout Catholic, does not mind that a person who supports killing babies in the womb might be elected to the Senate.

    But the Pope is evil.

  894. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:16 pm
    The damn thing SAYS “CBS Morning Consult,” fwiw.

    – Politico polls in conjunction with Morning Consult.

    If you could provide a link so I see where you are getting that, that would straighten things out.

  895. NYCmike says:

    Still waiting for the list of “liberal” policy issues pushed by Trump…….

  896. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:24 pm
    “Because I find Roy Moore to be vile human garbage, that somehow means I support Doug Jones”
    -Robbie,
    Which person do you want to win the Alabama Senate special election?
    Moore or Jones?

    – Neither. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I wouldn’t bother to vote if the polling place was in my front yard.

  897. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:26 pm
    Robbie, the devout Catholic, does not mind that a person who supports killing babies in the womb might be elected to the Senate.
    But the Pope is evil.

    – NYCmike does not mind that a person who sexually assaulted a 14 year old girl might be elected to the Senate.

  898. Redmen4ever says:

    CBS poll D+8 … not unreasonable.

    When you get D+18 as with the pew poll, you can suspect that the questions were so insulting to Republicans, that few Republicans (within the demographic groups) stuck around to the end of the poll.

  899. DW says:

    I am tired of arguing about Moore…how about this:

    Which of these terrible options has the worst food?

    1. Cracker Barrel
    2. Dennys
    3. Shoneys
    4. Golden Corral

  900. NYCmike says:

    Politically-motivated-and-unproven-allegations trump definite-baby-killing.

    Got it. Robbie-world.

  901. Chicon says:

    From what I can determine, either Jones or Moore will win the election. “Neither” is not gonna win.

  902. DW says:

    923 – oh but many comments on HHR throughout the years have rooted for Neither (D) in one form or another. Neither (D) works hard though to ensure the advance of Democrat causes.

  903. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    DW
    Say goodbye to Trent Franks(R-AZ). Add to the List.

    https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/arizonas-trent-franks-expected-resign

  904. DW says:

    Trent Franks (R) – US Congressman

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harold Ford (D) – former congressman
    Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    Trent Franks (R) – US Congressman
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement

  905. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW,

    1. I really like Cracker Barrel–breakfast, lunch and dinner. Trout is good for dinner…
    for the last several months they can’t cook their bacon worth a lick. It is hard as shoe leather now.

    2. Shoney’s is good for the Sunday breakfast buffet, not much else…

    3. Denny’s is barely tolerable for breakfasts–but get a thumb half up for offering country ham.

    4. Golden Corral is flat out terrible.

  906. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW,

    Your list of those accused of sexually inapropriate behavior…

    It is over 60 people now.

    Can you put an asteriks * by the names of the ones who have beef fired or resigned?
    Just a thought…

    And I like how you put the newest ones at the top of the dashboard… 🙂
    ******************************
    And BTW, Walt grabbed my teat again this morning.

  907. Cash Cow TM says:

    By my count the media folks lead the congressmen is the number who have been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior.

    10 journalists/media people

    7 U.S. Congressmen
    _____________________________
    20 are in Hollywood (films, actors, etc.)

    and that category is way ahead of mascots (stuck at 1).

  908. Bitterlaw says:

    Which of these terrible options has the worst food?

    Did EML steal DW’s handle?

  909. Bitterlaw says:

    My son wants to spend 6 weeks over the summer (allegedly) studying in Rome. Of course, my wife wants to visit him when he is there. I don’t know what I would eat there.

    Too bad he did not apply to go to London. I love English food. Probably more than English people do.

  910. Paul says:

    Sounds like a typical GOP tactic that Fox News is passing along.

  911. Paul says:

    Michigan Guy is now passing on lies. God you are a creep.

  912. Todd McCain says:

    Doug Jones’ campaign confirmed they sent the flyers dumb a$$.

  913. Phil says:

    Jones may win for the simple reason that there is no enthusiasm for super flawed candidate Moore. Lack of enthusiasm matters in an election (see Hillary).

    Jones would be there for two years and then any decent Republican candidate with a pulse will clean his leftist clock. Jones knows his days in the senate will be numbered. Because of all the red state Democratic senators up in 2018 it won’t cost Republicans the senate but still sucks we have to endure this guy’s senate voting record for the next two years.

  914. Tina says:

    Nunes coeared of wrong doing, bever released classified info.

    Schiff for brains has and does.

  915. Todd McCain says:

    I really doubt he wins Phil.

  916. Cash Cow TM says:

    What does Al Franken drink his beer out of?
    ******************************************
    His Franken stein.

  917. Tina says:

    Stupid move by jones camp.

  918. mnw says:

    Contrary to what somebody posted, Franks’ AZ seat is PVI +13R! About as safe as you can get for the GOP. I still hate to lose a Freedom Caucus member, though.

    I mentioned the controversial Jones ad earlier this afternoon in 877. So Jones runs the ad, AAs scream raciss!, and yet somehow the dirty villain in this saga is… FOX News!

    Because… of course!

  919. lisab says:

    Donald Trump — keeper of promises

  920. mnw says:

    lisab

    His base noticed that.

  921. mnw says:

    House just passed a continuing spending resolution to prevent a shutdown.

    The DEM shutdown threat over illegals was all just b******t.

  922. jason says:

    So in a way Franken is responsible for Obamacare.

    By stealing the election by 312 votes when he actually lost it by more than 2000 votes he gave Obamacare the 60th vote.

  923. jason says:

    “Morning Consult, an internet poll, has something different.”

    LOL

    Wobbie is cherry picking polls again.

    If MC had Trump at whatever number Wobbie thinks he should be at, he would be here touting it quicker than a maggot getting to carrion.

  924. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently Franks approached some staffers looking for a child surrogate for he and his wife.

  925. Tina says:

    Careful

    Jebot 2 may deem franken stein as being anti semitic.

  926. lisab says:

    “child predators” have some of the highest recidivism rates of all crimes. yet Moore has NOT had any complaints against him since his marriage.”

    actually he is not accused of being a child predator

    so that logic does not apply

  927. Mr.Vito says:

    Paul and Robbie accused him of being a child predator.

  928. lisab says:

    actually he is not accused of being a child predator by his alleged victims of sexual assault

    so that logic does not apply

  929. mnw says:

    Pervnado, aka Groperdammerung, is apparently just getting under way. Multiple reports say the WaPo plans to name 20-30 other congresscritters.

    Texas Chainsaw Massacre tagline: “Who will survive, and what will be left of them?”

  930. MichiganGuy says:

    Apparently, the GOP is now the party of CHILD MOLESTATION! At least the media tell me that’s the meaning of President Trump’s endorsement of Senate candidate Roy Moore.

    Are we allowed to mention that Moore denies the charges?

    It’s hard to disprove accusations from 40 years ago — that’s why we have statutes of limitations — but, despite that, there are a surprising number of problems with the allegations against Moore.

    One accuser has been called a liar by her own stepson, who says he’s voting for Moore. Another neglected to mention that Moore sent her brother to prison.

    In defense of one of Moore’s accusers, Gloria Allred produced a yearbook allegedly signed by Moore, apparently in two different inks and giving his title as “D.A.” He was not the district attorney and didn’t sign his name that way. Allred refuses to produce the yearbook for handwriting analysis or to deny that it’s a forgery.

    Contrary to what you have heard one million times a day on TV, there aren’t “multiple accusers.” There are two, and that’s including the one with the fishy yearbook inscription whose stepson says she’s lying.

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    The other “accusers” claim he dated them when they were 16 to 19 years old and Moore was in his early 30s — or younger than Jerry Seinfeld was (39) when he dated 17-year-old Shoshanna Lonstein.

    That would also make Moore 15 years younger than Bill Clinton when he had a 22-year-old intern performing oral sex on him in the Oval Office. Moore’s date “accusers” say he did nothing more than kiss them.

    The media throw the dating claims in with the molestation claims so they can keep howling about “multiple accusers.” In fact, only two women are alleging anything that, if true, would merit national attention.

    TV anchors think it’s very clever of them to ask anyone who isn’t bowled over by the claims of Moore’s (two) accusers: So you’re calling the women “liars”?

    Checkmate!

    There’s a lot of room between HE’S A CHILD MOLESTER and THE WOMEN ARE LIARS.

    They could be misremembering. They could be confusing Moore with someone else. They could be suggestible. They could be delusional. They could have repeated the story to themselves so many times that they believe it. They could be really, really disgusted with Jerry Seinfeld.

    The main accuser has gotten a lot of her facts wrong, such as where she was living at the time (she moved to another town 10 days after meeting Moore); the corner where she allegedly met Moore for their liaisons (she named a corner more than a mile away from her house, across a busy intersection); and when she began to get into trouble with boys and alcohol (it was before meeting Moore, not after).

    It was 40 years ago! But it’s just weeks before the election and that’s the media’s favorite time to produce wild accusations against Republicans.

    Four days before the 1992 presidential election, Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh dropped an indictment of Reagan’s defense secretary, Caspar Weinberger, which seemed to implicate President George H.W. Bush in a lie. Bush lost the election, and about a month later a judge threw out the indictment.

    In the middle of the 2004 presidential campaign, CBS’s Dan Rather produced forged documents allegedly proving that President George W. Bush had shirked his National Guard service decades earlier.

    In September 2006, just before the midterm elections, the media released GOP congressman Mark Foley’s creepy emails to House pages. No physical contact was alleged. The corpus delicti was that Foley told pages they looked “hot” in their soccer shorts.

    The entire GOP was crucified by the media for not having discovered this “pedophile” in its midst. Republican congressmen who had never met Foley lost their seats because of the media’s timing of the email release.

    More than 20 years earlier, a Democratic congressman, Gerry Studds, who had actually buggered a 17-year-old page, indignantly defied his House censure and proudly stood for re-election. His outraged Massachusetts constituents elected him six more times. Washington Post columnist Colman McCarthy denounced the “witch hunt” against Studds, saying his critics wanted “to torch the congressman for his private life.”

    When Studds died in 2006, The Washington Post’s headline on his obituary was: Gerry Studds; Gay Pioneer in Congress. The New York Times’ headline was, Gerry Studds Dies at 69; First Openly Gay Congressman.

    I supported Rep. Mo Brooks in the primary, but Alabamians would be crazy to let the media vilification of Moore affect their vote. Moore’s real crime is that he’s a believing Christian who goes around wantonly quoting the Bible on sodomy. Journalists react to that like Linda Blair in “The Exorcist.”

    The media say that Republicans support Moore just because they want another GOP vote in the Senate. I support Moore just because I hate the media.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/12/06/ann-coulter-jerry-seinfeld-endorses-roy-moore/

  931. Proud Obamacon says:

    LOL Mr 36%! Winning!

    Not.My.President

  932. Paul says:

    A true Christian would admit when he is guilty.

  933. Proud Obamacon says:

    By all means, please elect Romeo Roy Moore. Please do it, please I am begging yall!

  934. mnw says:

    MG

    Excellent summary.

  935. mnw says:

    MG

    Excellent summary.

  936. MichiganGuy says:

    Thanks but the credit goes to Ann Coulter

  937. Paul says:

    This whole paragraph is a lie that has been perpetrated. It is not true.

    The main accuser has gotten a lot of her facts wrong, such as where she was living at the time (she moved to another town 10 days after meeting Moore); the corner where she allegedly met Moore for their liaisons (she named a corner more than a mile away from her house, across a busy intersection); and when she began to get into trouble with boys and alcohol (it was before meeting Moore, not after).

  938. MichiganGuy says:

    Paul are you a Christian?

  939. Paul says:

    Yes, I have a personal relationship with Jesus who is God incarnate and has died for the sins of the world and redeems me and you and everyone.

  940. MichiganGuy says:

    NRA Jumps in Against Democrat Doug Jones in Alabama Senate Race

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/06/nra-jumps-against-democrat-doug-jones/

  941. Paul says:

    So the NRA is fine with pedophilia. Cool.

  942. MichiganGuy says:

    Paul, so I assume you know what Matthew 7:1-3 says:

  943. Proud Obamacon says:

    Can’t wait until Moore gets to DC and starts hanging out with Heller, Cruz, and his Twin Predator Orange Man. The 2018 ads write themselves!

    PARTY.OF.PREDATORS

  944. MichiganGuy says:

    Paul, I hope you have lived a perfect life otherwise, my friend you are in trouble. 🙂

  945. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    932. “My son wants to spend 6 weeks over the summer (allegedly) studying in Rome. Of course, my wife wants to visit him when he is there. I don’t know what I would eat there.”

    Your in for a very, very pleasant surprise.

  946. mnw says:

    Troll-y cares SOOOO much about these 40-yr-old allegations!

    He even admitted this was all about getting an extra senate seat the other night, i.e., “What’s wrong with that?” (electing Jones). These jerks are laughing their adz off about playing us! “A real Christian would…”. GFY, “real” Christian troll-y.

    MG

    Ann was always smart. I realized that when I was finally able to stop looking at her & start listening to her.

  947. lisab says:

    “So the NRA is fine with pedophilia. ”

    moore’s alleged victims are not charging him with pedophilia

  948. Paul says:

    I agree that the Democrats have some pretty big logs in their eyes. Both sides need to work on removing them.

  949. Paul says:

    Sorry…. Sexual predation of teen age girls.
    NOT pedophilia.

  950. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Places Steve Bannon should not go:

    Utah Gov. Gary Herbert?@GovHerbert Dec 6
    @SteveKBannon, #stayout of Utah. We don’t need you. We don’t want you. You don’t line up with American values. You don’t line up with Utah values.

  951. MichiganGuy says:

    Yeah, I thought it was funny too that the left tries to make her look like a racist. Then, there is rumors like this saying she is dating Jimmy Walker. lol

    https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ann-coulter-denies-norman-lears-claims-shes-dating-jimmie-walker-w475272/

  952. MichiganGuy says:

    Paul says:
    December 7, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    I agree that the Democrats have some pretty big logs in their eyes. Both sides need to work on removing them.
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    How about looking in the mirror and taking the log out of your eye.:)

  953. MichiganGuy says:

    SDC, Utah the mormon kingdom. lol

  954. JC says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    December 7, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    Places Steve Bannon should not go:

    Utah Gov. Gary Herbert?@GovHerbert Dec 6
    @SteveKBannon, #stayout of Utah. We don’t need you. We don’t want you. You don’t line up with American values. You don’t line up with Utah values.
    ———————

    Too bad for Herbert, Bannon is an American citizen and can support whoever the hell he wants in any state he wants.

    I’m gonna be honest, Utah has always rubbed the wrong way. It’s like the state fights to be the most preachy, holier-than-thou state in the land. My sister lived in Utah and said people there love to judge a lot.

    Anecdotal of course.

  955. lisab says:

    Sorry…. Sexual predation of teen age girls.
    —————————————

    alleged sexual predation of teen age girls

  956. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A Christmas warning:

    “Police have warned Christmas party goers to obtain consent before kissing under the mistletoe otherwise they may be guilty of rape.
    The advice came in a tweet, since deleted, by the Police Service of Northern Ireland which has been criticised for “trivialising” sexual violence.
    The force, which has 159,000 followers, tweeted on Saturday: “If you bump into that special someone under the mistletoe tonight, remember that without consent it is rape #SeasonsGreetings”.”

  957. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We also must be sensitive to using the term “snowflake.”

    “Being called a “snowflake” is damaging to mental health, young people say. Figures show that the majority of young people think the term is unfair – and even more think it could have a negative effect of its own.
    The “snowflake generation” is a disparaging term now commonly used to refer to young people, who are perceived to be over-sensitive and intolerant of disagreement.
    But research by insurance firm Aviva found that 72 per cent of 16-24 year-olds think the term is unfairly applied, while 74 per cent think it could have a negative effect on young people’s mental health.”

  958. DW says:

    I will work on it more tomorrow…but here is a start:

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    *Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    *Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    *Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    *Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harold Ford (D) – former congressman
    *Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    *James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    *Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    *John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    *Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    *Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    *Trent Franks (R) – US Congressman
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement
    * – Indicates accused lost job over allegations

  959. Cash Cow TM says:

    * So about 11 out of 61 have lost their jobs over the allegations

  960. Cash Cow TM says:

    Oh, and a big thank you to DW.

  961. Cash Cow TM says:

    snowflake

    sneak fowl
    flank woes
    snake flow

  962. jason says:

    I see Paul and Wobbie call Moore a pedophile based on unsubstantiated allegations from 40 years ago which he denies.

    Let’s remember this, because sooner or later somebody they support will be on the receiving end and we will see if they start whining about “due process”.

    HHR has long memories.

    Moore is a scumbag who doesn’t believe in the rule of law or the Constitution. He has proven that.

    Pedophile requires a lot more evidence.

  963. jason says:

    “A nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula is inevitable because of threatening military drills by South Korea and the United States, North Korea’s foreign ministry said in comments carried by the official Korean Central News Agency late Wednesday. ”

    I wonder what the North Koreans think will happen to their regime if their is a “nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula”.

  964. jason says:

    there is, not their is, geezuz

  965. Tina says:

    Looks like evidence is that rogue fbi higher uos participated in using fake dossier to get fisa warrant.

    This is what I predicted since day 1 of muh russian hiax.

  966. Tina says:

    The presiding judge in flynn matter recuses himself without explnati9n. Rumour sugges that he signed the fisa warrant based on fake dossier.

  967. janz says:

    Tina, where did you see info about the Flynn judge recusing himself?

  968. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t understand why MG is ok with a guy in his 30’s dating a 16 year old. It’s creepy and gross. If it was legal, it is still creepy and gross.

    As for the stepson of an accuser saying she is lying…..zzzzz. Maybe she is lying. Maybe she is not. A disgruntled family member is not who I would build my case around.

    I think Moore loses. Franken’ alleged resignation puts the spotlight back on Moore. Politics is a full contact sport.

  969. Tina says:

    He is ine of the fisa judges, rumoured to allow the warrant for the illegal wiretapping of trump, trump associates.

  970. janz says:

    Thanks Tina!

    Bitter, most sexual predators don’t just stop their predatory patterns, let alone have intervals of almost 40 years since they engaged in said harassment. Why hasn’t there been more recent allegations? Don’t you find that curious?

  971. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – No. I said he was creepy and gross. I did not say he was a predator. He got married. I guess he stopped being openly creepy and gross.

    Do you think it is ok for a man in his 30’s to date a 16 year old. I do not think it is ok.

  972. Bitterlaw says:

    Is Diamond Jim up?

  973. Bitterlaw says:

    M again

  974. Bitterlaw says:

    If anybody wants to post how Great Grandfather Sven married a 16 year old when he was 45 and they were married until he died at 105, save it. Different time and creepy in hindsight.

  975. Big Joe says:

    Half inch of snow expected, city of Atlanta about to shut it down baby!

    Big Joe

  976. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 7, 2017 at 11:11 pm
    I don’t understand why MG is ok with a guy in his 30’s dating a 16 year old. It’s creepy and gross. If it was legal, it is still creepy and gross.
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    BL, please show me one post where I said it is ok for a guy in his 30’s to date a teenage girl. I’m waiting. Oh, you can’t find one can you. There is a choice here between Doug Jones who supports abortion; who will vote for gun control and vote against conservative Judges vs. Roy Moore who is pro-life, pro-gun, will support Trump’s nominees, etc. Now given that choice I pick Moore. What is so hard to understand? Now if, Roy Moore wins I support the Ethics Committee to investigate the allegations against Roy Moore and if, they find enough hard evidence that he sexually assaulted anyone; I will support a vote by the Senate to expel Moore.

  977. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 7, 2017 at 11:48 pm
    Janz – No. I said he was creepy and gross. I did not say he was a predator.
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    If that is now the standard for being a Senator than I believe most Senators need to resign. LOL

  978. Bitterlaw says:

    954 Why do you mention (or copy) the cases of Seinfeld and Clinton with much younger women? Do they make it ok if Moore did indeed date a teen?

    Given the train wreck that the voters created, I prefer that Moore wins. I also hope a thorough investigation leads to him not being seated if the accusations have merit.

  979. janz says:

    Bitter, I don’t see it as “creepy,” but more out of the norm. Nonetheless, I have friends with husbands decades older than themselves, and a cousin whose wife is 10 years older than he is. In my first year of high school I had a boyfriend who was in college. He taught me how to drive a stick shift in his old truck. People basically are all so different in their choices, developmental stages in life etc.

  980. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 8, 2017 at 12:09 am
    954 Why do you mention (or copy) the cases of Seinfeld and Clinton with much younger women?
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    The reason I mentioned Seinfeld is because, you have shown so much hatred for Moore but, I seen you mention many times about how much you liked the Seinfeld show. It seemed a little hypocritical of you to support one while condemning another.

  981. Mr.Vito says:

    JFK and that 19 year old intern was also creepy. Although that went just a little past kissing.

  982. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Given the train wreck that the voters created, I prefer that Moore wins. I also hope a thorough investigation leads to him not being seated if the accusations have merit.”

    Would agree. There needs to be some sort of due process investigative and hearing procedure established by Congress to examine these type of allegations; maybe if Moore is elected, that will happen.

  983. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If it is consensual, and the two people are of legal age, I don’t think someone’s relationship is anybody else’s business. Boy-Girl, Girl-Girl, Boy-Boy.

  984. Paul says:

    My bets
    Moore wins
    Moore is seated
    Franken still resigns

    How it plays in 2018.. I don’t know.

  985. janz says:

    The key is “due process,” of which there seems little of in the current cache of allegations – many of which are made anonomously.

    I’m, though, having mixed feelings by how slight the offense can be for a woman to lodge a complaint. Even a man whistling at a woman seems likely to be deemed borderline harassment.

  986. janz says:

    No matter how the AL race turns out Moore and the R party are in for hard times. If Moore loses, he will have lost substantial credibility, and a dufus Dem will take the seat. If he wins, he will be treated like a leper in the Senate, and the Dems will capitalize on their promotion of his sleeze. It’s all about political advantage…..

  987. Big Joe says:

    “a dufus Dem”

    ok?

    Big Joe

  988. Big Joe says:

    My guess is that Moore wins, is seated, and this is forgotten. This is not Foley in 2006. In this era of the 24hr news cycle, this will become ancient history come summer/fall 2018.

    It already seems like old news and its only a couple of weeks old.

    Big Joe

  989. janz says:

    Joe, your thoughts seem sensible. However, in this day and age of political rivalry, and the desire to win at any cost, the Dems will use a Moore win in daily virtue signaling against the entire R party.

  990. jason says:

    Yep, no good outcome out of this.

    Thanks, deadenders.

    Anyone who voted for this idiot in AL and enabled him from afar should have their heads examined.

  991. MichiganGuy says:

    Jason showing his ignorance again. These allegations didn’t come out until after the primary. If these allegations would of come out during the primary; I’m sure Strange would of won.

  992. Big Joe says:

    Janz, the electorate is too polarized. R’s will vote for R’s and D’s will vote for D’s period.

    Big Joe

  993. MichiganGuy says:

    Big Joe, true but, your forgetting about the independent vote.

  994. Big Joe says:

    It is my opinion that there are very few indies who are truly up for grabs. The overwhelming majority of indies lean strongly one way or other. And don’t forget, many people identify as Independent because they are far right or far left.

    Big Joe

  995. JC says:

    Big Joe says:
    December 7, 2017 at 11:54 pm
    Half inch of snow expected, city of Atlanta about to shut it down baby!

    Big Joe
    ———————————

    It snowed here in San Antonio for the first time in a decade. Which is funny because this winter has been unusually warm. It’s supposed to reach the 70s again in a few days

  996. lisab says:

    “In my first year of high school I had a boyfriend who was in college. ”

    cooooooooool …

    if i had a bf in college when i was in hs

    i think my bf would have mysteriously disappeared

  997. NYCmike says:

    “Thanks, deadenders.

    Anyone who voted for this idiot in AL and enabled him from afar should have their heads examined.”

    -The rest of jason’s thought, although he didn’t write it:

    “Yup, and of course I will totally ignore the Senate Majority Leader directing PACS to spend $30 million to go after one of the other candidates in the primary race, one who was already an elected official.”

  998. mnw says:

    I agree with whoever posted that Moore would’ve lost to Strange if the sex accusations had been known before the primary. But they were NOT known back then, & I believe it is no accident. The WaPo held the story back until after the primary for a simple reason: this was always always ALWAYS about getting 1 vote closer to destroying Trump’s presidency. Nothing else.

    In any event, blaming GOP primary voters for not being able to see into the future is nutty. They didn’t have a chance to consider the accusations.

  999. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    In every defeat/setback, there is ALWAYS a “deadender” at fault.

  1000. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/12/07/forget-snowflakes-william-shatner-kindly-agrees-to-call-sjws-by-a-less-hurtful-name/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -Bitterlaw and/or MD must know Shatner, and Shatner must know Wes…. “I’ve switched to “delicate flower””

  1001. MichiganGuy says:

    A federal investigation launched in 2016 into possible bank fraud by Jane Sanders, wife of U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, is still underway — with “a potential” grand jury review possible.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/08/bernie-sanders-wifes-land-deal-still-under-fbi-probe-witness-recently-questioned.html
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    What is taking so long? It only took Mueller 7 months to convene a grand jury and charge Flynn.

  1002. NYCmike says:

    MG,

    Patience is a virtue.

  1003. Bitterlaw says:

    The fact that Moore was twice suspended as a judge no has contempt for the rule of law and the Constitution should HAVE been enough to derail him in the primary.

    Seriously. It is “would have” or “should have.” “Of” is not the correct word.

  1004. Bitterlaw says:

    No should be “and has contempt.”

  1005. DW says:

    I have to agree with Bitter on this one. Moore had ‘train-wreck’ written all over him, and so I hold the primary voters responsible for their mistake. Especially given Moore is 70 years old and obviously wants to just spend his last few years lashing out on the largest stage he can get.

  1006. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz – I suspect that your college boyfriend when you were a high school freshman had more on his mind than teaching you how to drive.

  1007. Tgca says:

    1002 Snow in Atlanta. Uh-oh. I hope it doesn’t make its way down here to Miami.

  1008. Tgca says:

    Hey, my mom got knocked up at 15 by my dad who was 21, and then they married. But that was quite normal back then. Up until the late 70s, it was not unusual for some teenagers and adults to be dating.

  1009. NYCmike says:

    DW,

    Of course the VOTERS are responsible.

    BUT, when a candidate gets the MAJORITY of votes, should the word “deadenders” be used to describe such a large portion of the electorate?

  1010. Redmen4ever says:

    Judges interpret law. Senators make law. A person could be unfit for the bench and be fit for the legislature.

    As to the removals:

    Both concern the man’s willingness to subordinate himself to the rule of law.

    The first concerns whether a particular 10 Commandments memorial may be placed in a (public) courtroom. The 11th Circuit affirmed that there is historical importance to the 10 Commandments which could justify the placement of a 10 Commandments memorial in a courtroom, but that the specifics of the one placed in the Alabama state Supreme Court building violated the establishment clause.

    This removal demonstrates that the man is unwillingness to work within the strictures of law. He’s a “my way or the highway” kind of guy. Or, maybe he’s just looking to endear himself with voters who aren’t very sophisticated.

    The second, approx. a decade later, concerns gay marriage. In this case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that equal rights requires the recognition of gay marriage because so many rights and privileges attach to marriage. I think most Americans accept this decision, regardless of whether they think anal intercourse is anathema (or “creepy”). We shouldn’t back-door discrimination, but should strive for equal rights for all our people. I understand that some people are prone to judge others based on their idea of what is creepy, but while they can do this privately, the government cannot do this.

    The second issue indicates that Roy Moore does not appreciate that statutory law and judicial decisions often involve complexities. When the state uses marriage to favor some people over others in certain things, and this status is only available to heterosexual people, it has violated the equal protections clause of the Constitution. Ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court decides such matters, not the Chief Justice of each state Supreme Court.

  1011. mnw says:

    BL

    Profoundly disagree. The voters knew about Moore’s judicial career & chose him despite that. He won, Strange list.

    I don’t think one can fairly equate “child molester” & “judicial contempt,” and say they’re about the same level of moral turpitude, assuming that’s a fair summary of your position.

    Anyway, BL, the judicial misconduct is res judicata now. The voters knew all about & a majority didn’t find it disqualifying.

    I don’t think Jones even wastes time discussing the judicial misconduct at this stage of the campaign.

  1012. mnw says:

    sb “Strange lost”

  1013. NYCmike says:

    ” had more on his mind than teaching you how to drive.”

    -Bitter,

    janz already said that he had “more on his mind”….”He taught me how to drive a stick shift in his old truck.” **wink**wink**

  1014. Tgca says:

    Ok. Today I came to the realization I just might be a bad person. In reading and seeing pictures about the wildfires in CA, I find I’m having emotional reactions to all the stories about the horses killed instead of for the elite losing their homes and ranches. ….and the threat to Bel Air, do I care? Not yet.

    I guess Babs can do a final final final final concert to raise money for any of the elite Hollywood who suffer any property loss. MBAGA…Make Bel Air Great Again.

  1015. mnw says:

    Btw, I wish to God Moore had lost the primary! Who the hell wants to wade through THIS?

    These are simply the cards that were dealt. Here is an opportunity for a rare photo: mnw says something good about Paul. I admire him for laughing a week back or so & admitting that his only real interest in the 40 year old charges is electing Jones, i.e., “What’s wrong with that?”, he posted, when I said , “Your only interest in the scandal is electing another liberal like Jones.”

  1016. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t think one can fairly equate “child molester” & “judicial contempt,” and say they’re about the same level of moral turpitude, assuming that’s a fair summary of your position.

    I did not equate the two. For me judicial contempt would have been enough to disqualify him. I do not know if the accusations are true and I refuse to discount them out of hand. If true, they are worse than the judicial suspensions.

  1017. Chicon says:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454413/fbi-agent-peter-strzok-rush-judgment

    Excellent article by McCarthy on bias in the FBI and DOJ. Especially recommended for Bitter and MNW.

    Btw, mnw, solid win for the Blues last night

  1018. Bitterlaw says:

    BUT, when a candidate gets the MAJORITY of votes, should the word “deadenders” be used to describe such a large portion of the electorate?

    Yes. Christine O’Donnell was nominated by Deadenders to send a message.

  1019. NYCmike says:

    “Btw, I wish to God Moore had lost the primary! ”

    -I preferred Mo Brooks in the primary. Unfortunately, he was bombarded with negative ads by some “unknown” groups, which had the desired affect for those “unknown” groups.

  1020. MichiganGuy says:

    DW says:
    December 8, 2017 at 9:17 am
    I have to agree with Bitter on this one.
    ——————————————————————————————————-
    Have you ever disagreed with BL? SMH

  1021. Tgca says:

    Now I found this touching.

    https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/man-rescues-rabbit-california/2017/12/07/id/830560/

    The thought of Hollywood elites homes burning…meh.

  1022. NYCmike says:

    “which had the desired affect for those “unknown” groups.”

    -…..Until it didn’t have the desired affect…..

  1023. Tgca says:

    I get it that Moore was in contempt…but then why not dispel many other pols for ignoring the law. Sanctuary cities anyone? Don’t judge the folks of AL too harshly when folks in other states routinely vote for their leaders who continually violate and ignore the law.

  1024. MichiganGuy says:

    DW says:
    December 8, 2017 at 9:17 am

    Moore is 70 years old and obviously wants to just spend his last few years lashing out on the largest stage he can get.
    ——————————————————————————————————
    That is quite an assumption you have there DW. It couldn’t be because, he is tired of democrats and rinos destroying and perverting the Constitution to suit their whims? Maybe, he wanted to be a Senator to help Trump get conservative constitutionalist Judges approved so, we can stop the liberal activist judges from making law or interrupting law with their liberal slant.

  1025. NYCmike says:

    TGCA,

    Not to mention that Congress passed a law to treat any member different than a “normal” citizen when there is a sexual harassment crime, even going so far as for taxpayers to pay the $ettlement$ to the victims!

  1026. MichiganGuy says:

    November nonfarm payrolls rise 228,000 vs. 200,000 est.
    Nonfarm payrolls grew by 228,000 in November and the unemployment rate held steady at 4.1 percent. Economists expected 200,000 new jobs and an unchanged headline rate.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/08/november-nonfarm-payrolls.html
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Thank you, Mr. President! No, not you Obama.

  1027. DW says:

    1050 – plenty of times as Bitter can attest.

  1028. jason says:

    Apples and oranges… Moore was a chief justice of the AL Supreme Court…he took and oath of office to obey the law and the Constitution..instead he decided to make up his own laws…and was removed not once but twice.

    Comparing that to l”eaders of other states that ignore the law” is like comparing jaywalking to murder.

    Moore was the last instance in the AL judicial system and charged exactly with upholding the law. If the couldn’t do it then he should have resigned, but instead even ran again so he could go back to shredding the Constitution.

    He is not fit for any office let alone the Senate. I would not vote for him if he was running against the ghost of Jeffrey Dahmer.

    That being said of the two outcomes I hope he wins by one vote and if the allegations against him are substantiated gets kicked out of the Senate.

  1029. NYCmike says:

    “That being said of the two outcomes I hope he wins by one vote and if the allegations against him are substantiated gets kicked out of the Senate.”

    -My sentiments from a month ago……jason finally caught up.

  1030. jason says:

    he is tired of democrats and rinos destroying and perverting the Constitution”

    LOL

    MG gets the clown of the day award.

    Moore was removed twice for “perverting the Constitution”, he has not respect for it or for the rule of law.

  1031. Tgca says:

    I grew up in the NYC area and lived in various parts of the US and one thing I see consistently, there is a bias against people in the Deep South, as if they’re stupid and ignorant. Unless you spent time around southerners, I think it’s just a different way of life non-southerners are not accustomed too. These folks are not stupid! If you said the same thing about ghetto folks, people would be claiming it’s racist. Clearly a 2x standard.

  1032. Cash Cow TM says:

    Al Franken said his seat, and the seats of many women, are up for grabs.

  1033. jason says:

    “My sentiments from a month ago……jason finally caught up.”

    Zzzzzzz… that has been my position from the start.

    GFY.

  1034. jason says:

    Al Franken said his seat, and the seats of many women, are up for grabs”

    Funny, Cash Cow.

  1035. NYCmike says:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10247

    -This is another reason why the Moore allegations are more harmful now……teens, and even twenty-somethings are so dang immature, emotional, and without reason that society-at-large treat them like babies.

  1036. NYCmike says:

    🙂

    Cow-wa-bun-grab!

  1037. NYCmike says:

    Those Muslims at the catholic university should be asked how festive are the celebrations of other religions in their native country.

  1038. MichiganGuy says:

    Jason, have you ever read the Constitution? LOL You don’t have a clue what your talking about.

  1039. jason says:

    Every agency is filled with people like this, bet on it.

    “Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released two productions (335 pages and 44 pages) of Justice Department (DOJ) documents showing strong support by top DOJ officials for former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates’ refusal to enforce President Trump’s Middle East travel ban executive order. In one email, Andrew Weissmann, one of Robert Mueller’s top prosecutors and formerly the Obama-era Chief of the Justice Department’s Criminal Fraud Section, applauds Yates writing: “I am so proud. And in awe. Thank you so much. All my deepest respects.”

    Judicial Watch obtained the documents through a May 2017 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed after the Justice Department failed to respond to a February FOIA request seeking Yates’ emails from her government account (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Justice (No. 1:17-cv-00832)) for the time period she served as Acting Attorney General for President Trump.

    The emails, several sent from official Justice Department email addresses, show strong support for Yates, who was fired for disobeying a direct order from the President:

    Thomas Delahanty, then the United States Attorney for Maine wrote: “You are my hero.”

    Liz Aloi, a career service employee and Chief of the Justice Department’s Special Financial Investigations Unit told Yates she was “Inspirational and heroic.”

    Emily Gray Rice, then the U.S. Attorney for New Hampshire and an Obama appointee said: “AAG Yates, thank you, as always, for making us proud. It is truly an honor to work for you.”

    Obama appointee Barbara McQuade, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan told Yates, “Thank you for your courage and leadership. This is wonderful news.”

    DOJ Civil Division Appellate Attorney Jeffrey Clair wrote: “Thank you AG Yates. I’ve been in civil/appellate for 30 years and have never seen an administration with such contempt for democratic values and the rule of law. The President’s order is an unconstitutional embarrassment and I applaud you for taking a principled stand against defending it.”

  1040. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    I like the last one:

    “The President’s order is an unconstitutional embarrassment and I applaud you for taking a principled stand against defending it.””

    He forgot to check with the Supreme Court, and/or the Constitution.

  1041. Tina says:

    Pete the cheats emails to be made public.

  1042. Paul says:

    There are some distinctions between TravelBan 1.0 and TravelBans 2.0 and 3.0.

  1043. janz says:

    #1038. Bitter, if my college boyfriend had something else on his mind he respectfully didn’t go in that direction. In fact, he is fondly remembered as a romantic kind of guy – wrote poems to me and decorated the cab of his truck with flowers when we went to a school dance. A really nice person…

  1044. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Considering how many people here think it is acceptable for men in their 30s to prey upon 16 year old girls, I may have to reconsider my position on owning a gun.

  1045. Chicon says:

    Bitter – better to arm your daughter – with common sense.

  1046. Wes says:

    Elmer Gantry has clearly never read the Constitution:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    The 14th Amendment made this applicable to the states. Thus, when Moore put his 10 Commandments monument up, he violated the Constitution. That’s why he lost his seat on the Alabama Supreme Court.

  1047. jason says:

    ason, have you ever read the Constitution? LOL You don’t have a clue what your talking about”

    I have, but its obvious you haven’t. But first things first, you should go back to grade school and learn how to spell, then you can tackle the Constitution.

    But for your education, Moore refused to accept the ruling of the federal courts and defied the decision of the Supreme Court. According to the Constitution, these decisions trumped any State laws or any personal opinions he has on the law.

    When he took his office, he swore an oath to obey the Constitution. He violated that oath. Once the legal options were exhausted, his obligation was to comply with the law. Not HIS law, the Constitution.

    Not fit for dog catcher, let alone the Senate.

  1048. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    BREAKING NEWS about the allegations against Roy Moore:
    https://twitter.com/reckonalabama/status/939134642367684609

    Mrs. Nelson will say that she doctored part of her yearbook inscription.
    What say you?

  1049. mnw says:

    Chicon

    Thx for kind words about Bluz win. They show up a lot better against mediocre teams, but I suppose every good team does that.

    AZ Senate:

    85-yr-old Joe Arpaio is “seriously, seriously” considering running for Flake’s Senate seat. I don’t discount that possibility out of hand. That would probably mean McSally is the nominee, unless Salmon gets in, which is unlikely.

    I think Sinesma would beat McSally like a rug— the base won’t support her because open borders. Sinesma is running ahead of both McSally & Ward by about the same narrow margin right now.

    I could easily see the ‘18 senate elections producing 2 red to blue, & 2 blue to red, for a net difference of zero. That makes holding the AL seat rather consequential.

  1050. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Time for Gloria Allred to be disbarred!

  1051. mnw says:

    Sheep

    “fake but accurate,” as Dan Rather once said.

  1052. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    What do you think of the above #’s 1080 &1082?

  1053. Todd McCain says:

    Wow. If anyone didn’t see Jim Jordan’s take down of the FBI Director, it is must see TV.

  1054. mnw says:

    Sheep

    I posted those myself. I think they’re wonderful!

  1055. jason says:

    Yesterday mnw said Drudge was turning anti-Trump…

    You can’t tell that from the headline at Drudge right now.

  1056. Wobbles says:

    So Moore’s accuser claims she only lied about part of the allegation.

    According to the standard I invoked here, if you change your story in any way nothing you say can be believed.

    Let’s see if I show up later to eat crow. Is there any ketchup?

  1057. mnw says:

    1087

    I agree. I’d hate to be stuck calling her as a witness now.

    jason

    Drudge is kind of schizo, but they used to be 100% MAGA.

  1058. mnw says:

    Would anyone dissent from this proposition? Roy Moire is having a good day.

  1059. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Wait until an American Muslim judge decides to apply Allah’s law to cases. MG’s contortions to explain why that is unacceptable while Moore’s actions were acceptable will be epic.

  1060. mnw says:

    No wonder Allred refused to turn over the documentary evidence until after the election. I have a feeling Allred’s client won’t want to appear before the Senate ethics committee now.

  1061. Todd McCain says:

    WOAH!! ACCUSER ADMITS SHE LIED!

    WHAT A JOKE!

  1062. Wobbles says:

    Very unlikely the accuser would have added the date and location to a signature on her yearbook, Moore was not famous at the time. Smells like something All Red told her to do to “help” with the evidence.

  1063. jason says:

    I am forced to agree with Wobbles.

  1064. jason says:

    Beverly might just have sealed the deal for Moore.

    And Franken might be saying to himself what did I do.

  1065. mnw says:

    As I remember Coulter’s summary, there were 2 accusers who said Moore committed criminal acts. Two. This woman was one of the two.

    Now we’re down to ONE whose credibility isn’t already in shreds.

  1066. Bitterlaw says:

    Stupid and unnecessary to add a date to a yearbook. Here is a clue for the next person. Yearbooks have the “year” printed on them.

  1067. Bitterlaw says:

    If Moore wins, I think that he will “reconsider” his planned resignation. He will claim that he has now “learned” from his errors and must protect women from Senator Moore.

  1068. jason says:

    here are some distinctions between TravelBan 1.0 and TravelBans 2.0 and 3.0.”

    Maybe, but there is one thing that is common to all three.

    It’s the President’s prerogative to institute travel bans and none of them are unconstitutional.

    That is why the ruling was 7-2, even a couple of the liberals understood that they may not like the ban, but that Trump is entitled to enact it.

    Two of them took the Moore approach, let’s make our own law.

  1069. Redmen4ever says:

    Moore accuser to admit she lied.

    Boy is Al Franken going to be pissed. They had him fall on his sword and for what?

  1070. jason says:

    Yeah, Franken will say look if Moore can get away with it I can too.

    Of course, they only difference is that he already admitted to some of it while Moore has admitted nothing.

  1071. mnw says:

    If it was stupid & unnecessary to amend the year book, then how stupid & unnecessary was it to LIE about amending the yearbook?

    Foot meet bullet.

  1072. Wobbles says:

    Would anyone dissent from this proposition? Roy Moire is having a good day?

    Me, me, me.

    Gloria All Red said he is a pedophile. That’s good enough for me.

    How could a pedophile have a good day?

  1073. Wes says:

    Mnw, John McCain has long been a pro-amnesty candidate but has never won by less than 12 points in Arizona. I doubt it’s an issue that would sink McSally.

    McSally is also a tough campaigner who barely lost to an incumbent who had the distinction of being a victim of the same shooting ss Gabby Giffords before unseating him and holding the seat even as Hillary improved over Obama’s showing in both the district and the state.

    I would say McSally can beat Sinema, who has never been tested outside a gerrymandered district whereas McSally has won on enemy turf.

  1074. jason says:

    Let’s see if Wobbie shows up to defend his standard that if you make any corrections to your story you can no longer be believed.

    Not holding my breath.

  1075. Tina says:

    Come again, what accuser lied. Is the one bought by rottie?

  1076. jason says:

    Yep, McSally is a great candidate, but the deadenders want to give the seat away.

  1077. jason says:

    It’s the one that the WAPO “found” by accident.

  1078. mnw says:

    Wobbles

    And PDT coming to Pensacola 2nite to say how important the AL election is (he’s right about that)… and this is the last weekend before the election…

    I amend what I said: Moore is not having a good day. He’s having a very good day.

  1079. Tina says:

    Ok, its ovah. Moore wins by 10?

  1080. jason says:

    No, I am wrong above, that was Leigh Corfman that the WAPO “found”.

  1081. mnw says:

    OK jason & Wes, but she’s trailing Sinesma now, by the same margin Ward is.

  1082. DW says:

    Hispanic unemployment rate dropped to 4.7% – the LOWEST in history of USA… MORE…

  1083. Tina says:

    She altered the ray to roy too, but at least she admits too altering part of it.

    That signature is not his btw. I would bet $1000 of my sosh security money.

  1084. mnw says:

    Well if McSally is such a good fit for AZ, & Arpaio doesn’t run, then McSally should defeat Ward. Time will tell.

  1085. mnw says:

    Tina

    I think that woman’s chess piece is off the board now. Nobody cares WHAT her new story is. Thanks for playing, & have a great day! Here’s a nice consolation prize for you.

  1086. Wes says:

    She also just announced and has a divisive primary against a Bannon Darling. I look at the race as a marathon rather than a sprint with a prominent candidate featuring a profile known to be acceptable to Arizonans (center-right combat veteran) against a moonbat who’s never proved she can win outside a Dem vote dumpsink.

  1087. jason says:

    hen McSally should defeat Ward.”

    Should yes.

    But as we saw with Senators Buck, Miller, Akin, Angle, COD, and Mourdock, deadender losers do win primaries.

    So instead of “let’s see” it would be better to support a candidate that can win a GE.

  1088. Wobbles says:

    ‘that signature is not his btw.”

    Doesn’t matter now.

    According to my standard, you can’t believe anything she says now.

  1089. mnw says:

    Only ABC (to its credit) has reported the recantation by Allred’s client so far. I hope it gets better coverage in AL. Trump might allude to it tonight in Pensacola, at least indirectly.

  1090. Redmen4ever says:

    4.7 percent unemployment … Hispanics are the new white.

    It’s not just the expanding economy. By cutting off new illegals, the economy isn’t being inundated by new, poorer, less educated Hispanics, e.g., from Central America. The economy can therefore better absorb those that are here. Hispanics, as Trump himself has said, are good people, family values, strong work ethic, entrepreneurial. It’s just a matter of time before they come over and join our party.

  1091. Tina says:

    I have bigger fish to fry than ms fraud. I am setting my site on fbi leadership under obumbler, ie comedy, sjw, pete the cheat, mccabe, and the dossier.

  1092. DW says:

    I have watched more than one murder mystery drama where the plot turned on the perpetrator trying to frame someone else doctored the evidence and couldn’t resist adding one detail too many to make it lock-tight and ended up blowing the entire frame-job and was found out.

  1093. Tina says:

    It seems odd that judge contreras presided over flynns admission the other day, and six days later he is recused.

    Imo, the Big Ugly has begun.

  1094. Wes says:

    This is sad:

    https://thefederalist.com/2017/12/08/august-ames-didnt-die-accusations-homophobia/

    Essentially SJWs drove a girl to suicide because she refused to do a p orn scene with a man who had barebacked during gay porn and, not having recently had an STD test, may have had AIDS.

    They called her homphobic despite her willingness to do lesbian scenes and trolled her to death.

    RIP.

  1095. Mr.Vito says:

    I can’t find any news stories promoting the idea that Moore’s accuser has been called into question, even on ABC.

  1096. DW says:

    Here is a great Christmas puzzle. I think I sent this out last year, but for those who have not seen it:

    The Situation:
    1. Three wise men and their two servants appear in Bethlehem to worship the newborn king.
    2. They each brought a different gift, and each arrived riding on a different animal, each wore a different colored robe, and each had a unique name and unique nationality.
    3. They each stood in a single line, left to right, to present their gifts.

    Who Rode the Camel?

    Clues:
    The Egyptian wore a white robe.
    The mule was ridden by Phoebus.
    The one to the left of Gaspar gave a stone gift.
    Balthazar was next to the Persian.
    The one who wore a grey robe was to the right of the Indian.
    The one who rode the horse was to the right of the one who gave gold.
    The Indian had the Assyrian on his left and the Babylonian on his right.
    Melchior did not ride the elephant.
    The one in the center wore a red robe.
    The Persian was all the way to the right.
    One of the servants wore a tan robe.
    The three wise men brought gold, frankincense, and myrrh and stood together.
    The one who gave myrrh was to the left of Melchior.
    Nemo and Phoebus were the servants and stood side by side.
    The donkey was ridden by the one who gave wood.
    The one who gave frankincense wore a purple robe.

  1097. Mr.Vito says:

    I do see a clip where she admits she added notes later.

    The problem with this is it mandates that there are two different inks…

    If you look at the picture that appears to show different inks, the “Moore” of the signature is also in a different ink.

    So why would you attempt to forge the last name to look like his real signature?

    https://www.usatoday24x7.com/must-see-roy-moore-signature-inside-accusers-yearbook-is-written-in-two-different-color-inks/

  1098. BRENT says:

    IMAGINE THAT,SOCIAL MEDIA KILLED ANOTHER PERSON !!!
    SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST DISAPPEARED FOR A FEW MONTHS AND IGNORED THE IDIOTS WHOM WERE BULLYING HER,INSTEAD SHE HANGS HERSELF TO DEATH AND ALL WHOM HELPED PUSH HER TO KILL HERSELF WILL JUST GO ABOUT DOING THEIR THING AS PER USUAL

  1099. Bitterlaw says:

    Is the 4.7 UE rate based on the real numbers or the is it using the cooked books that we used to criticize Obama for using?

  1100. Tina says:

    Da was added and that is not his either.

    Muh accuser is done. She was the main liar.

  1101. Bitterlaw says:

    Nobody rode a camel.

  1102. Tina says:

    Bad day for the jebots.

    Need to find another muh victim.

  1103. janz says:

    Wolf-Whistling and Sexist Remarks Could Become a Hate Crime in London. The US will follow suit, in the wake of the current hysteria enveloping what has become almost like gender wars.

  1104. DW says:

    I guess Robbie will be extending his cruise.

  1105. Tina says:

    Me thinks, judge contreeras was forced to recuse and removed from flynn.

  1106. DW says:

    1133 – interesting guess, but wrong.

  1107. Tina says:

    Not sure why the drat race baited with that horrid ad.

  1108. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I saw that story. Very pretty young woman. My research indicated that she was a dedicated performer.

  1109. Tgca says:

    1127 Wes

    I read this story the other day and thought it odd. I agree that she was treated unfairly but I don’t believe in assigning blame to others for her suicide. Clearly, she must have had other issues there as well, as it seems quite dramatic for an adult to kill themself simply because they were called homophobic.

  1110. mnw says:

    Vito 1127

    FOX has it up now, & near the top too.

  1111. Chicon says:

    Tina – forced by who?

  1112. jason says:

    ABC does not get any credit, they are reporting it as “well but everything else is true” and not asking why she lied.

  1113. Tina says:

    Not sure, chicon, but it appears unusual. There are growing whispers that he was the fisa judge that allowed the wiretapping.

  1114. Chicon says:

    Robbie will be here to admit that this one accuser is now eliminated from the calculus of the situation. He’s a stand-up guy like that.

  1115. Tina says:

    The cth has the following summary

    The Clinton Campaign was the predicate for the Steele Dossier.
    The Steele Dossier was the predicate for the FISA Warrants (Agent Strzok).
    The FISA Warrants were the predicate for wiretapping and surveillance.
    The wiretapping/surveillance was the predicate for the Trump team unmasking.
    The unmasking/surveillance was the predicate for Robert Mueller’s SC charges against National security Adviser Michael Flynn.

  1116. jason says:

    Whoops…. Bernie better hope this US Attorney does not show the partisanship some of the Obama appointees have shown..

    “The probe is being handled by the U.S. Justice Department and will proceed at the discretion of Christina E. Nolan, the U.S. Attorney of Vermont, who was sworn into office last week after being appointed by President Donald Trump in September and confirmed by the Senate last month.”

  1117. Mr.Vito says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/363949-moore-accuser-says-she-added-notes-below-moores-yearbook-signature

    Ok, the hill has it. Allred says she will present more evidence “Friday”… so I don’t know when that will happen…

    It better be more than a signature comparison, or hearsay… but I would hold fire to find out what it is. If it is something else, then it was dumb to lead with a forged yearbook.

  1118. JC says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    December 8, 2017 at 11:57 am

    I can’t find any news stories promoting the idea that Moore’s accuser has been called into question, even on ABC
    ——————-

    Of course not. It doesn’t fit their narrative. This morning CNN did three very long segments on ‘Russia Russia Russia’ and about how Trump’s ‘tatters’ comment of the FBI is bad/dangerous/horrible ect.

    Not ONCE did they mention the revelation of Mueller’s right hand man being the attorney of Hillary’s IT guy. Not once did they mention that Mueller’s team includes Ben Rhodes attorney. Not once did they mention of now fired Strzok’s anti-Trump texts and his involvement with the Clinton cover up.

    If you were just a casual viewer who only got your news from CNN, you’d have no idea that Mueller’s ‘investigation’ is practically falling apart and being revealed for the political inquisition that it is.

    Fake news is when you selectively report certain facts while hiding others in order to manufacture a fake narrative. This morning CNN kept harping that ridiculous Pew poll with Trump at a ‘record low 32% approval’. They didn’t once mention that three other pollster had his approval in the mid forties and that this one was an extreme outlier, or that the pew poll had a dem advantage of 18 points… an electoral impossibility.

    It’s not an exaggeration to say these media outlets are literally propagandists.

  1119. Chicon says:

    Tina, I saw that about the FISA warrant. Most likely, though, he recused himself because he saw something that could make him appear less than neutral. The warrant is a possibility, but he knew of that when he first was assigned the Flynn case.

    Neither party was likely to ask him to recuse himself because they have a plea deal in place.

  1120. JC says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    December 8, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/363949-moore-accuser-says-she-added-notes-below-moores-yearbook-signature

    Ok, the hill has it. Allred says she will present more evidence “Friday”… so I don’t know when that will happen…
    ——————–

    As I’ve learned from experience, if someone claims to have damning evidence of someone or something but says they will only release it at a later date, then they don’t have damning evidence.

  1121. Mr.Vito says:

    Clearly the judge recused himself because he has a Latin sounding name, and therefore cannot judge the case fairly.

    😉

  1122. mnw says:

    The “Allred client lied” story is out there now, no matter how it’s spun.

    Pls, Gloria, do go back out in front of the cameras & try to resuscitate your client’s credibility! PLEASE do it!

  1123. janz says:

    Here is another link for the Moore story, this time from Fox News.

  1124. Tina says:

    Weissman attended the hillary election night rally.

    My goodness, the crooked fbi.

  1125. Chicon says:

    Janz – Robbie’s not here at the moment, so I’ll take one for the team and stand in….

    Fox is not credible. Get back to me when you can cite cnn, WaPo, NYT, or dailykos.

  1126. Tina says:

    Weissman is a top attorney for mulehead.

  1127. Tina says:

    Not a good few months for team allred.

    Daughter tries to save harvey.

    Mother knows her client is a liar and for six weeks does nothing to authenticate fake yearbook.

  1128. DW says:

    Robbie is reclining on the deck of the cruise ship staring in the sky watching Polaris flying high over head.

  1129. janz says:

    I think Nelson’s story behind her allegation was one of the most distasteful ones offered. If her credibility is now in question, because of her lie, I would think that would somewhat exonerate Moore, making his denial of these allegations more plausible.

  1130. Tina says:

    Can we get sjw yates under oath? What did she know about the dossier?

    Did Mccabe realky state f flynn, as suggested by a whistleblower?

  1131. janz says:

    Tina, what goes around comes around, as they say. The Allred women are self-serving hypocrites in all ways, and are only out to make headlines and money for themselves.

  1132. Tina says:

    When Moore wins, i bet psycho comedian will not resign from the senate.

    Even though psycho shoukd be registered as a sex offender.

  1133. Tina says:

    I am getting the thrash mixed up here, but yearbook phonys step son indicated that she is a liar.

  1134. Tina says:

    ?? Retweeted
    Ned Ryun
    Ned Ryun
    @nedryun
    ·
    2h
    Dear @Comey, I have a new Bible verse for you to ponder on: “For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.” Hosea 8:7. #maga #tcot

  1135. Tgca says:

    1076. Bitter

    I have 2 semi-automatic pistols. One holds 6 bullets and one 17. I could sell to you. With 23 bullets, you’re sure to hit the target at least once even if you’re a northeasterner.

  1136. Mr.Vito says:

    I am seeing people say that she only admitted to adding the date and stuff, so she didn’t admit to a forgery (both sides of the aisle)…

    Again, I submit that there must then be two inks.

    The picture showing two inks also includes the “Moore” part of the signature.

    He may have signed the yearbook, “Roy”. But inspection mandates me to question this new story if she is saying just the date etc. was added.

  1137. mnw says:

    Breitbart believes Allred will later today produce a handwriting expert to say that the remeainder of the yearbook entry is not forged, i.e., other than the part of it Allred’s client now admits lying about.

    As an aside, handwriting experts generally require a substantial exemplar of the suspect’s handwriting in order to reach a conclusion about the authenticity of the questioned document. Usually this is done by either asking the suspect (Moore) to give such an exemplar voluntarily, or by compelling the suspect to do so via Grand Jury subpoena.

    I don’t understand how Allred’s expert was able to get a valid exemplar from Moore before reaching his/her expert opinion.

  1138. janz says:

    #1158 Chicon, you did a good job impersonating Robbie.

    Tina, McCabe should be in lots of trouble too. It is thought he made the interview appointment with Flynn — set up like a sting — in order to ensnare him in something that could later be indictable.

    McCabe has had a grudge against Flynn ever since Flynn wrote a letter of support for a female agent who was accusing McCabe of harassment.

    It’s such a thick web of malfeasance surrounding the FBI elite these days.

  1139. jason says:

    I am seeing people say that she only admitted to adding the date and stuff, so she didn’t admit to forgery”

    Yes, but that was not the original story, so she is admitting to lying.

  1140. jason says:

    I have 2 semi-automatic pistols. One holds 6 bullets and one 17. I could sell to you. With 23 bullets, you’re sure to hit the target at least once even if you’re a northeasterner.”

    Semi automatic? Does that make them “assault” pistols?

    What is the make of the pistols?

  1141. mnw says:

    maybe RRH will put “alleged” back in front of “child molester” again now.

  1142. Chicon says:

    Janz, Robbie would have included a personal attack. Even though I was acting I didn’t want to do that.

  1143. NYCmike says:

    “A really nice person…”

    -janz,

    A lot of good it did him…..

  1144. NYCmike says:

    Walt rode the camel!

  1145. NYCmike says:

    “The one who wore a grey robe was to the right of the Indian.”

    -Walt,

    You know Elizabeth Warren personally?

  1146. NYCmike says:

    “TRUMP CHUMPS!”

  1147. NYCmike says:

    Got ya covered, Chicon.

  1148. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – You are very kind. However, I may just use a softball bat on any 30 year old guy who preys upon my daughter. More satisfying. A gun would be most dangerous to me.

  1149. Tgca says:

    1174

    Ruger 9mm
    Ruger LCP

  1150. janz says:

    This American Thinker article gets into the weeds more about the recusal of Judge Contreras from the Flynn case, denoting that Contreras is indeed one of the elite jurists dealing with FISA warrants.  

    There is still no proof, apparently, that Contreras was the judge overseeing the FISA warrants in the Flynn case.  However, just him opting out of the case, at this late date, is curious, if not suspect that the odds are he excused himself because of the conflict of interest this would pose for him sentencing of Flynn.  

    I’m beginning to wonder if Flynn might be able to get out of this one, purely because of all the twists, turns and whiffs of conspiracy between various departments. 

  1151. Chicon says:

    1177 – is this a euphemism?

  1152. Tgca says:

    1174 Jason

    For the record, I have never assaulted anyone with my pistol unless they asked for it. That’s all I’m saying on the matter!

  1153. Chicon says:

    Janz, not sure Flynn will opt for trying to get out of the plea deal. But all the surrounding noise may give Trump political cover for a pardon if no collusion is shown.

  1154. mnw says:

    WaPo today: “Democrats Struggling to Motivate Afro-Americans in Alabama Senate Race”

    fta “Jones still has a lot of work to do.”

  1155. Redmen4ever says:

    Flynn and his attorneys should get the charges dismissed and payment for reasonable fees given misconduct by the prosecution.

  1156. Chicon says:

    1188 – C’mon Mike, pjmedia? They’re not mainstream, like dailykos.

  1157. mnw says:

    1189 Redmen

    Nope.

  1158. Chicon says:

    Vito, how much power does Nunes have to force DOJ and FBI to hand stuff over?

  1159. Mr.Vito says:

    “Vito, how much power does Nunes have to force DOJ and FBI to hand stuff over?”

    I don’t know, but now they are getting more pressure because of appearances of conflicts and bias.

  1160. Chicon says:

    Vito, it seems that the power is limited to political pressure. I wonder if they have standing to sue, where a judge has more power against individuals.

  1161. Tgca says:

    I know we have Dustin Hoffman on the sexual assault and harassment list which I’m gonna just denote as SAH List from hereon, but Drudge has a pretty disturbing pic of him cupping a breast that is not his. Assuming this is not fake or it wasn’t a staged photo op, it doesnt look good for Hollywood elite like Dustin, who despite what you see, is by default a HUGE defender of women rights and respects women unconditionally unlike those awful conservatives who only want to see women barefoot and pregnant.

  1162. Chicon says:

    Tgca – yep, those entertainment peeps are really to be looked up to; their opinions absolutely deserve the oversized weight they get in this culture.

  1163. Paul says:

    When I first saw the Yearbook. I assumed this was the case. The writing under his name looked like a young girls writing. She wrote in the date and place. Why? Hell, I don’t know? But it does sound like something a high school girl would do to me.

    I actually think that lends more credibility. If it was forged why would you add something that could mess up the forgery and just confuse things.

  1164. Paul says:

    And I think the creep was a big deal in a small town. If the mayor of my podunk town I grew up in wrote in my yearbook, it would be a big deal to me at the time.

  1165. Big Joe says:

    11200

  1166. Chicon says:

    Paul – a person as smart as Gloria knows how important witness credibility is in a case like this, especially given the timing. If this was as innocuous as you suggest, she says that at the original newser. Nice effort, though.

  1167. Wes says:

    Despite all the allegations of sexual harassment and abuse rampant today bringing doen (mostly) liberal politicians and entertainers, Mary Jo Kopechne is still unavailable for comment.

  1168. Wes says:

    Joe adds 10,000 to the thread count with one post. 🙂

  1169. Paul says:

    I agree, Chicon. It was very negligent of the client to not explain the issue with the yearbook. I imagine Allred didn’t know about the issue until later.

    BUT, the simplest explanation is the one I’ve thought all along. Other ones just don’t make sense.

  1170. mnw says:

    “more credibility”?

    There aren’t 3 people in a million who would say that getting caught in a lie adds to a witness’ credibility.

    And these trolls call US partisan hacks.

  1171. Big Joe says:

    Sorry Wes, guess I’m a bit rusty.

    Big Joe

  1172. Paul says:

    I assume even someone as smart as Allred does some stupid stuff now and then.

  1173. Paul says:

    mnw: What the hell? It makes perfect sense to anyone who is not blinded by the need to excuse a sexual predator.

  1174. jason says:

    Has Soccer Moron checked in today yet?

    “Authorities said the gunman lived with his parents in Aztec and had worked at a gas station. In his message, he wrote that work, school and life was bad and he wanted out.”

  1175. Paul says:

    And what the hell is this crap about two inks. That is only the poor photo that Britbart crapped out of their ass.

  1176. Tgca says:

    Paul

    Actually, it appears they tried to mislead others with a photocopy and now she is forced to admit she altered by adding additional info. Why not say that upfront? Probably because it could have added more doubt of why and when, and whether it was the same Roy. That goes to her credibility as they never clarified so now she has damaged herself. If Allred advised or knew about this, which I’m sure she did as I bet she saw the original source, then she hurt her client even more.

    I remember watching the entire press conference and feeling sorry for her but at the same time conflicted that something was off with her. Now it makes me wonder even more now.

  1177. jason says:

    Ruger 9mm
    Ruger LCP”

    Nice… I am partial to Glocks but I like Rugers.

  1178. Trump says:

    I’m safe. Muehler not so.

  1179. jason says:

    “more credibility”

    LOL

    Hey Paul Troll, I don’t think this is going to give the accuser more credibility in Alabama.

    You read it here first.

  1180. dblaikie says:

    Never trust Gloria Allred. She has more in common with a blood sucking tick than another human.

  1181. mnw says:

    Tampering with evidence and false swearing: I can’t imagine how she could possibly be impeached, not with credentials like that.

  1182. jason says:

    “a person as smart as Gloria knows how important witness credibility is in a case like this,”

    BS, this is not a criminal trial.

    They wanted to get as big a bang for the buck and hoped that it would make Moore quit, the details to come later.

    That is how All Red thinks. This was first and foremost an orchestrated publicity stunt, her specialty.

  1183. jason says:

    Paul, you need to ask that Spinning Course you took to refund your money.

  1184. Chicon says:

    Agree, Jason, I was trying to be polite…. She wanted the pre-election pop.

  1185. NYCmike says:

    “Agree, Jason, I was trying to be polite…”

    -You “gentlemen” need to revamp that A-Hole Training Course……or else you will end up like the HOBOS.

  1186. NYCmike says:

    1221

  1187. NYCmike says:

    Is he coming or going?

  1188. MichiganGuy says:

    Sen. Orrin Hatch Will Host Re-Election Fundraiser, Raising Questions About Mitt Romney’s Potential Senate Bid

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/orrin-hatch-host-re-election-fundraiser/

  1189. mnw says:

    Change Research:

    51/44 Moore

  1190. Mr.Vito says:

    Looks like CNN just got caught pushing fake news by WAPO and the daily caller…

  1191. mnw says:

    Most recent previous Change Research poll was 49/44 Moore, btw.

  1192. JC says:

    MichiganGuy says:
    December 8, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    Sen. Orrin Hatch Will Host Re-Election Fundraiser, Raising Questions About Mitt Romney’s Potential Senate Bid

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/orrin-hatch-host-re-election-fundraiser/
    ——————–

    Anyone but Mitt.

    #NeverRomney

  1193. mnw says:

    RCP doesn’t include Change Research in their avg. Dunno why.

    538 rates like, 200 pollsters, but not Change. Since 538 rates a lot of pollsters as “banned!”, & Change Research is just not there at all, perhaps Change Research is new? That could be the reason.

    Their methodology seems OK to me, as an untrained observer. But they don’t give a D/R/I breakdown of their sample. 2500 RVs polled,with an LV screen.

  1194. Mr.Vito says:

    It isn’t the TV poll they list?

  1195. mnw says:

    Vito

    I don’t know what the TV poll is. I scrolled down comments lately through the 538 (interminable) listvof pollsters, & Change Research isn’t there. Nor is Change included in the list of “all AL Senate polls.”

  1196. Mr.Vito says:

    Ok, mnw.

    Here is their twitter…

    https://twitter.com/ChangePolls

    and site

    https://www.changeresearch.com/

  1197. Mr.Vito says:

    They had Northam by 6 and Murphy by 16

  1198. mnw says:

    Vito

    I had seen their site the last time Dave posted a Change poll, but I don’t get the part about a “TV poll.”

  1199. NYCmike says:

    Short on Northam, over on Murphy

  1200. Mr.Vito says:

    Within MoE on both.

  1201. NYCmike says:

    “Within MoE on both.”

    -Nice work, if you can get it.

  1202. mnw says:

    New Gravis poll coming this afternoon.

    The teaser is “Big Change Coming In AL Poll!”

    Seems to imply Moore has gained, per The Wise Men.

  1203. Tgca says:

    I guess Romney in UT is better than having a Dem but I think Romney is part d the establishment and will do exactly what’s he told to do to stay relevant. The way he attacked Trump and then sucked up to him for the SOS job is clear evidence that Romney will blow with the wind, and not necessarily fight the good fight when needed. So yeah, if it’s between him and a Dem, I’ll take him but I rather see a better candidate for the GOP.

  1204. Redmen4ever says:

    CR includes self-reported vote in prior Presidential election in its weighting matrix. This is interesting. Party affiliation is endogenous. Doping for party really helps with efficiency, but misses on-going changes in party affiliation. Doping for self-reported vote in the prior Presidential election seems like a nice way to avoid the endogenous zone. It is also a venerable method of dealing with non-response bias, having been used in some of the first serious polls in the elections of 1884 and following (in the calculation of “the drift”). BTW Ballotpedia tracks CR (and just about everybody else).

  1205. Paul says:

    Jason: I’m not the a-hole trying to do the spin. You are.

    I’m just saying what makes the most sense for the yearbook. But I do agree that Allred screwed up on it. But I do believe the yearbook is likely very real.

  1206. Paul says:

    I do think Alabama will elect someone who is clearly a sexual perpetrator of teenage girls.

  1207. Paul says:

    Any thoughts that the GOP might investigate the creep once he is in the Senate are complete fantasies.

  1208. NYCmike says:

    Romney is more Orrin Hatch than Mike Lee.

    I would want a much younger, stronger conservative from a state like Utah, similar to Lee.

  1209. Tgca says:

    1242

    GFY Paul.

    Jason is not an a-hole. He’s an A-hole. There’s a difference.

    Jason’s a well-respected, highly thought of, and loved HHR member so you need to acknowledge that and show some respect.

  1210. NYCmike says:

    “Any thoughts that the GOP might investigate the creep once he is in the Senate are complete fantasies.”

    -If the alleged victims continue seeking justice, I, for one, would look for the Senate, and a jury, to convene hearings. I have been saying this all month (much longer than jason, by the way).

  1211. NYCmike says:

    Any thoughts that Franken will resign are, until he actually does, complete fantasies.

  1212. Paul says:

    Sorry 🙂

  1213. NYCmike says:

    “I do think Alabama will elect someone who is clearly a sexual perpetrator of teenage girls.”

    https://totalfratmove.com/18-year-old-kate-uptons-first-sports-illustrated-shoot-was-so-hot-it-will-melt-your-eyes/

    Kate Upton at 18. Paul will NOT look at this link.

    I did.

    Sue me.

  1214. NYCmike says:

    Ok, yes, I do feel like a creep for looking……her face looks like a freakin’ baby….but GOOD GOD, the rest of her!

  1215. Paul says:

    I would prefer Franken not resign.

    However, I can’t imagine him changing his mind on resigning that doesn’t really fit with his character. I also can’t see how that would politically be helpful for the dems.

  1216. Paul says:

    I could see Franken running for President in 2020, however.

  1217. mnw says:

    Do you think the voters in AL will now find Allred’s client to be more credible than she was before… as you claim you do?

  1218. mnw says:

    NYC

    Win the Cy Young award a couple of times, & you can have a gf like her too.

  1219. Redmen4ever says:

    Regarding the Senate Ethics Committee:

    I now do not expect the committee to investigate this matter. The Yearbook is admitted to be a forgery. That dispenses with one of the two allegations of an actual crime. Regarding the other, there is now no corroboration. The series of dates with legal age teenage girls does not corroborate inappropriate touching of the undergarments of a minor. Just the opposite. They establish that the man was a healthy heterosexual from a community that at least in those days countenanced adult males courting legal age teenage girls with the consent of the parents of same.

    Jeff Bezoz had his fun with his investigative reporting and his phony poll trying to embarrass a man whose entry into adulthood was delayed by his service in Viet Nam and his pursuit of a law degree.

    Bezoz is an enormously wealthy person. But look at the pathetic amount of money he has given to the charities of his choice. Even Bezoz Family Foundation is described as being funded by Bezoz’ PARENTS.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos#Philanthropy

    I am guessing that Bezoz, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, keeps his wealth in unrealized capital gains, not paying their fair share in taxes, while complaining that the Republicans want to give tax breaks to those who work.

  1220. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    WIFE.

  1221. NYCmike says:

    Al Franken and Jill Stein?

  1222. NYCmike says:

    SCARY!

  1223. DW says:

    I guess new accusers decided to start the weekend early…nothing new today:

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    *Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    *Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    *Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    *Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera (D) – Journalist
    Glenn Thrush (D) – Journalist
    $ Gregory Meeks (D) – US Congressman
    Harold Ford (D) – former congressman
    *Harvey Weinstein (D) – Film producer
    Israel Horovitz (D) – Playwright, director, actor
    Jack Latvala (R) – FL state senator
    *James Levine (D) – Symphony Orchestra conductor
    Jeffrey Tambor (D) – Comedian
    Jeremy Piven (D) – Actor
    Jesse Jackson (D) – Activist, politician
    *Joe Barton (R) – US Congressman
    *John Conyers (D) – US congressman
    John Lasseter (D) – Film director, animator
    John Singleton (D) – Film director
    Johnathan Schwartz (D) – Radio host
    Kevin Spacey (D) – Film producer
    Larry Nassar – USA Gymnastics team doctor
    Leonard Lopate (D) – Radio host
    Louis C.K. (D) – Comedian
    *Mark Halperin (D) – Journalist
    Mascot – LA Kings
    Matt Debabneh (D) – CA Assemblyman
    *Matt Lauer (D) – Journalist
    Michael Oreskes (D) – NPR VP of News
    Oliver Stone (D) – Film producer, director
    Peter Martins (D) – Director NYC Ballet
    Randy Baumgardner (R) – CO State Senator
    Raul Grijalvas (D) – US Congressman
    Richard Dreyfuss (D) – Actor
    Roy Moore (R) – Alabama judge
    Ruben Kihuen (D) – US Congressman
    Russell Simmons (D) – Music Mogul
    Steven Seagal (D) – Film producer
    Sylvester Stallone (R) – Film actor
    Teddy Davis (D) – CNN senior producer
    Tony Cornish (R) – State representative, MN
    *Trent Franks (R) – US Congressman
    Tyler Grasham (D) – Hollywood agent

    $ – Indicates used taxpayer dollars in a settlement
    * – Indicates accused lost job over allegations

  1224. Tina says:

    Dina leaker powell out at wh.

    Finally….

  1225. Bitterlaw says:

    I watched the Upton video 5 times just to make sure I’m not creepy. Upon further reflection, it would have been creepy to date her when I was in my early 40s but nothing comes without consequences.

  1226. Bitterlaw says:

    For the record, I have never assaulted anyone with my pistol unless they asked for it. That’s all I’m saying on the matter!

    Tgca either wins Gayest Post of the Day or Most Disturbing Post of the Day.

  1227. Bitterlaw says:

    I could see Franken running for President in 2020, however.

    Paul gives me a serious Bunu vibe. Mayne he just decided to try out a new act of Democrat stooge.

  1228. Cash Cow TM says:

    “The donkey was ridden by the one who gave wood.”
    ##################################
    I am not going to touch that one….

  1229. DW says:

    1265 – sorry I had failed to work a cow into the riddle. But then again cows have better things to do than trod all over the fertile crescent.

  1230. mnw says:

    Well, it’s 5:39pm in NY. Allred & her client will have to hurry to have their announced presser “this afternoon.”

  1231. NYCmike says:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/in-1960-she-went-to-confession-and-vanished-now-we-know-the-priest-murdered-her/ar-BBGoabg?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP

    -Jeez Louise….story mentions catholic Kennedy running for President…..LBJ influence in Texas…..gosh this stinks!

  1232. mnw says:

    I now read that Allred & her client DID have a presser, but that none of the networks broadcast it live.

    Maybe the 15 minutes of fame are finally over.

  1233. Tgca says:

    1262 Vito

    That cop is awful. I am an advocate of law enforcement but this cop seems rotten to the core, as if he was looking for an excuse to shoot this kid. I hope he gets his due in life and he is humiliated in the same manner before someone ends his worthless life. I can not imagine how the parents must feel when they saw this.

  1234. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cow never “gave wood” to anyone…

    biologically impossible.

  1235. Tina says:

    Well, from the presser, abc concludes that she did not forge anything. She only added notes to an inscription.

    Lol

  1236. Tina says:

    Reaponse by alka seltzer to fake news.

    Brian Stelter
    Brian Stelter
    @brianstelter
    A CNN spokeswoman says there will not be disciplinary action in this case because, unlike with Brian Ross/ABC, @MKRaju followed the editorial standards process. Multiple sources provided him with incorrect info.
    1:21 PM · Dec 8, 2017

  1237. Redmen4ever says:

    Was Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica creepy by this rule:

    http://dack.com/misc/optimum_age.html

  1238. Mr.Vito says:

    “1262 Vito That cop is awful.”

    https://www.gofundme.com/Danielmemorialfund

    Back story will make it 20 times worse for you.

  1239. mnw says:

    Gravis said about an hour ago: new AL poll “shortly. working on it now”

  1240. Cash Cow TM says:

    Red Lobster!

    Yeah baby!

  1241. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1260- DW
    Here is another one for your List:
    Posted on 12/8/2017, 7:12:18 PM by TigerClaws

    A former clerk for Judge Alex Kozinski said the powerful and well-known jurist, who for many years served as chief judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, called her into his office several times and pulled up pornography on his computer, asking if she thought it was photoshopped or if it aroused her sexually.

    Heidi Bond, who clerked for Kozinski from 2006 to 2007, said the porn was not related to any case. One set of images she remembered was of college-age students at a party where “some people were inexplicably naked while everyone else was clothed.” Another was a sort of digital flip book that allowed users to mix and match heads, torsos and legs to create an image of a naked woman.

    Bond is one of six women — all former clerks or more junior staffers known as externs in the 9th Circuit — who alleged to The Washington Post in recent weeks that Kozinski, now 67 and still serving as a judge on the court, subjected them to a range of inappropriate sexual conduct or comments. She is one of two former clerks who said Kozinski asked them to view porn in his chambers.

    In a statement, Kozinski said: “I have been a judge for 35 years and during that time have had over 500 employees in my chambers. I treat all of my employees as family and work very closely with most of them. I would never intentionally do anything to offend anyone and it is regrettable that a handful have been offended by something I may have said or done

    (Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com …

  1242. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1279
    Too bad. Kozinski has been the voice of conservative reasoning on the Ninth Circuit for many,many years.

  1243. mnw says:

    A non-denial denial if ever there was one.

    Breitbart has extensive documentary evidence (judge it for yourself; it’s there for all to see) which proves that the genesis of the Moore sex scandal accusations was a former Jeb Bush campaign director of communications named Miller. Miller is now a prominent #nevertrump activist affiliated, as I understand it, with Romney.

    Miller emailed that the Moore victims he found were “easy to work with.”

  1244. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1244. “I’m just saying what makes the most sense for the yearbook. But I do agree that Allred screwed up on it. But I do believe the yearbook is likely very real.”

    A day of mourning has been declared in Bogo Pogo.

  1245. Redmen4ever says:

    Judge K. was apply the Potter Stewart standard. You can’t define it but, “I know it when I see it.”

  1246. lisab says:

    melchior the persion who was wearing purple and gave frankincence, rode the camel

  1247. Tgca says:

    Anderson Cooper frets you can be a bigot and get elected. Yes. That’s true. But why are we discussing LBJ. That was 50 years ago. Move on Anderson.

  1248. Tina says:

    Alcee Hastings, congress drat, $200,000 settlement for sex harassment.

  1249. mnw says:

    I suspect that Ned Miller, who found the Moire accusers and coaxed then to come forward when they did, probably persuaded them that Moire would quickly withdraw; that their identities would be protected; and above all, that they’d never have to testify.

    Similar promises were made to Anita Hill by Congressional investigators. Hill first denied that such promises had been made to her, and then, on a later date, corrected her testimony & admitted such promises had been made.

  1250. mnw says:

    sb “Moore”

  1251. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Those of us who live in the progressive, liberated state of California are shocked, shocked at the sexual harassment cases coming out of the rest of the country. It would never happen here….uh oh..

    “Anyone who claims sexual harassment doesn’t happen in Sacramento was proven to be a liar by a report from Tuple Legal, which showed the California Legislature paid out at least $1.9 million in taxpayer money to settle sexual harassment claims over the past 25 years.
    But in 2017 alone, the amount soared to $2.8 million.
    Heads are rolling. The Los Angeles Times reported California Democratic Party delegates called for the resignations of two state lawmakers who face sexual harassment allegations: Assemblyman Raul Bocanegra (D) and Sen. Tony Mendoza (D).”

    There is now a fear among Democrats that they may lose their super-majority in both houses of the legislature as a result of the scandals.

    Gloria Allred, your from California, how did you not see this was happening?

  1252. mnw says:

    Trouble posting from different computer, so I repeat:

    BOOM?

    Gravis 49/45 Moore

    Previous Gravis was Jones +4.

    Thass a 8-point shift.

  1253. Phil says:

    I imagine due to Jones’ moonbatism there are now enough Republicans who will hold their nose and vote for Moore.

    I would. After he is elected the senate can send him packing or whatever the hell they want to do with him. Republican governor can then appoint any Republican with a pulse – just as long as Alabama doesn’t have to endure a Schumer puppet for the next three years.

    The WP gave it their best shot.

  1254. mnw says:

    Phil

    Amen.

    Dave

    Zee Gravis poll at the top of this thread is inoperative now!

  1255. Tgca says:

    Ok. I’ve decided to get into the Christmas spirit this Friday evening in south Florida where it’s a cool 78 degrees at the moment. So tonight I’ll get all snuggly and watch the great American Christmas classic Gremlins.

  1256. mnw says:

    The pollster’s comments on the new Graves poll are delightful! “clear momentum shift to Moore” etc.

  1257. mnw says:

    I am getting into the Christmas spirit also. Drinking heavily before my knee replacement surgery.

    Or… celebrating Moore’s sudden change of fortune. I think I prefer to describe it that way.

  1258. Tgca says:

    Bright light!
    Bright light!

  1259. Blobbie says:

    Gravis 49/45 Moore

    Previous Gravis was Jones +4.
    ————————————–
    You Trump Chump Pedophiles

    Gravis is NOT a reliable polling firm

  1260. Blobbie says:

    The new poll is MORE evidence Moore is guilty, like Paul said!

  1261. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Mr. Orange was amazing tonight. You shoulda gone over to Pensacola.

    My take? Not a damn thing has changed since election night.

  1262. mnw says:

    Exactly, Blobbie.

    Alabamans clearly got the message that Allred”s client getting caught lying is great news for… Jones!

  1263. mnw says:

    If u r a troll, it’s getting really hard to find “a reliable polling firm” these days.

  1264. Blobbie says:

    If a 30 year old tried to seduce you when you were 15, wouldn’t you give him your yearbook to sign, in December, and wouldn’t you make a note to remember the date just in case you forgot that a 30 year old tried to seduce you?

    This is hard evidence!

  1265. Phil says:

    mnw

    Got a link to the poll?

  1266. Blobbie says:

    And if you were a 30 year old man and you just groped a 15 year old girl and she said, “Would you sign this year book for me?”, you would do that!

    CASE CLOSED TRUMP CHUMPS!

  1267. Bitterlaw says:

    Pro Moore polls are reliable. Pro Jones polls are terrible and must be re-weighted.

  1268. mnw says:

    As a disinterested, altruistic Alabama woman, I know the FIRST thing I would do would be to hookup with… DEM superdelegate Gloria Allred!

    Because NO-ONE conveys simple artless heartfelt sincerity better than Gloria Allred, right, Paul?

  1269. Tina says:

    Its ovah.

    Much like the career of the fake lawyah allred.

  1270. Tgca says:

    1299 mnw

    Pensacola is like 650 miles from me and like 40 degrees there. I think I’ll stay comfy and warm in south Florida tonight.

  1271. mnw says:

    There ARE no pro-Jones polls any longer, BL.

  1272. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Well… the drive woulda been worth it.

  1273. mnw says:

    Phil

    No, sorry, just go to Gravis marketing tweets.

  1274. Blobbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 8, 2017 at 9:59 pm
    Pro Moore polls are reliable. Pro Jones polls are terrible and must be re-weighted.

    All Pro Moore polls are from unreliable firms like Rasmussen

    SUCK IT MORONS!

  1275. mnw says:

    Tina

    Even The Wise Men at RRH have thrown in the towel tonight..

  1276. MichiganGuy says:

    * BOOM *

    Alabama Senate (Change Research)

    Moore 51%

    Jones 44%

    https://medium.com/@ChngRsrch/moore-lead-widens-to-51-44-in-alabama-236bc74af1d

  1277. Blobbie says:

    RRH, That Pro-Trump Echo Chamber?

    You should try an unbiased dource like Daily Kos for a change.

  1278. mnw says:

    Pro-Moore polls have gone the way of the Giant Sloth.

    “Think I’ll go for a walk!”

    “You’re not fooling anyone, Jones.”

  1279. Redmen4ever says:

    Remember, the Gravis Poll (link below) was conducted before the admission that the yearbook is a fake.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/big-league-gravis-alabama-poll-moore-surges-ahead-jones-49-45-special-senate-election-race/

    Q: What’s black and white and red and a bunch of g.d. liars?

    A: The Washington Post and Gloria Alred.

  1280. mnw says:

    Redmen

    1) correct

    2) funny!

  1281. lisab says:

    HAL is no fun

  1282. lisab says:

    you cannot say things like

    gloria was next to the one who signed the yearbook
    the yearbook was believed by the pilot
    the cruise ship had no internet
    the one named paul belived forgery was a good thing

    etc.

  1283. lisab says:

    well you can … but the long version goes into moderation

  1284. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Unreliable rumor is that Gloria Allred has already purchased a cruise ticket to go join Robbie in Bogo Pogo.

  1285. mnw says:

    PDT was smokin’ hot 2nite.

    90 minutes without any slurred words, & the crows was JAZZED!

  1286. mnw says:

    sb “crowd”

  1287. Mr.Vito says:

    Nelson did not admit the yearbook and inscription were fake.

    However, she really blew her credibility and confirmed why no one believes anything furthered by Gloria Allred.

    If this or the thing with the 14-year-old are true, they may have blown any chance of making Moore pay for it.

  1288. Tina says:

    Add another 2/3 for trump and another 3 to the allred implosion.

    Moore wins by 10?

  1289. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe Franken will luck out, and it will turn out half of the groping photo is fake.

  1290. Tina says:

    Maybe Franken did not touch sleeping woman. Maybe, he can claim there was no intent.

  1291. lisab says:

    the photo of fraken makes the whole thing less believeable

  1292. Mr.Vito says:

    Franken 2020

    Grope and change

  1293. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Moore delivered a strong tweet punch:

    “Boyfriend at the time says she lied.
    Employees of the restaurant say she lied.
    Customers of the restaurant say she lied.
    Her step son says she lied.
    Now she herself admits to lying.
    Let’s count how many national outlets will ignore the fact that she admits to lying.”

  1294. Blobbie says:

    The lying makes the whole thing more believable.

    Both can be true.

  1295. mnw says:

    Tina

    Not 10, imo. Wes made some valid points about how Moore has never set the Alabama prairies on fire in any of his past races.

    I think 4-5 points. But I now feel really comfortable for the first time in predicting that, fwiw.

  1296. lisab says:

    if the people of alabama think they were manipulated for political purposes by the washington “city slickers”

    it could be bad for jones

    as i said a while ago, this sexual allegation revolution is quickly becoming a terror for the democrats

    did the party of jfk and bill clinton not realize they were profoundly vulnerable to sexual allegations?

    bill clinton was impeached for it!

    maybe they just thought they could keep hillary from running again and it got out of control

  1297. lisab says:

    not that i think the republican men are naturally any better

    but a good number were brought up to believe adultery is a sin

    and they certainly know anything they do is likely to be published so they would be more careful anyway

  1298. lisab says:

    Kevin Spacey ‘groped Norwegian king’s son-in-law’

    you could not make it up

  1299. JC says:

    Robbie last posted yesterday at 5:31pm

    Robbie says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:31 pm
    – NYCmike does not mind that a person who sexually assaulted a 14 year old girl might be elected to the Senate.

    No post all day? Must be on another Cruise ship.

  1300. mnw says:

    lisab

    I dunno… men are hounds, & there’s a lot of talk about 20-30 more congresspeople being caught up in groperdammerung.

    I would expect the R/D pervnado split to be 50/50.

  1301. mnw says:

    Wobbles is holed-up in the cruise ship’s bunker tonight. Assuming the fetal position, as the bad news just keeps dropping down.

  1302. lisab says:

    “I would expect the R/D pervnado split to be 50/50.”

    oh … i know … and there will be HUUUUUUGE pressure to post mostly republican congressmen and only white dems.

    but i think that will just be the start. congressmen have friends on both sides of the aisle and they know who the playahs are.

    the people on the list will start spilling the beans on everyone. they are not leaving easily and they have no reason to keep quiet

    i would bet a full HALF of the congressmen have cheated and since the dems could count on the media not mentioning it, they have been more indiscreet

  1303. lisab says:

    as a case in point, when i was in college, i was once propositioned by one of my college friends fathers!

  1304. mnw says:

    I dunno that mere infidelity would even ring the scandal Bell today, in this environment. Cheated on his wife? Is that all there is?

  1305. lisab says:

    well since they all claim to be good family men … and the new thing is to be sugar daddy’s to young coeds

    i think it will be a huge s-storm of embarrassing revelations

    i see more weiner pictures coming out

  1306. lisab says:

    btw, so long as it is consenual i have no issue with it. i actually would support legalized prostitution.

    but i know i am in the minority and it won’t play in peoria

  1307. lisab says:

    D.C.: Top City for Finding a Sugar Daddy

    Dating site survey shows Washington is rife with rich, older men

    By Ashley E. Brown

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/DC-a-Top-City-for-Finding-a-Sugar-Daddy-144498165.html

  1308. lisab says:

    Juliet Huddy claims that Trump attempted to kiss her while the two were in an elevator back at Trump Tower in New York City in 2005, according to Page Six.

  1309. Tgca says:

    1347. LisaB

    You’d support legal prostitution?

    Oh my! Are teachers salaries that bad now?

  1310. Tgca says:

    I’m relocating to DC. Thanks for the tip LisaB.

  1311. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1350. “I’m relocating to DC. Thanks for the tip LisaB.”

    Don’t do it. Had a young male gay friend of mine move to D.C. to live with and older, rich government bureaucrat. Said his former partner and the people around him were the dullest, strangest people he had every met.

  1312. Paul says:

    I see Lisab is back and defending sexual predators of children. Nice to see. Glad my kids aren’t at your school.

  1313. lisab says:

    You’d support legal prostitution?
    Oh my! Are teachers salaries that bad now?
    ——————————————-

    i would support it for several reasons

    a.) it happens anyway. every time you see an old rich guy with some young model, she is not there because he is poor. i would rather she have a contract than some vague promises.

    b.) if two people want to engage in sex for cash, it is not my business, so long as everyone is of legal age and everything is consenual. i DON’T want my tax dollars spent on getting involved in other people’s consenual sex lives.

    c.) it could be regulated, with mandatory health checkups etc.

    d.) they usually only prosecute the escort, which is unfair.

    and

    5.) it is already 100% legal since the “john” can simply pay to film the two of them as a x-rated movie, and that is legal

  1314. lisab says:

    hi paul!

    as i have told you, i don’t support moore.

    i just don’t make stuff up about him and state it as fact.

    there is not even a need … he should not be an elected official in any capacity based on his political views.

  1315. lisab says:

    tgca,

    if gyweneth paltrow had sex with harvey weinstein to get shakespeare in love, i am ok with that. none of my business and i did not like the movie.

  1316. Paul says:

    I do think the yearbook is clearly real from what I’ve seen of it. From day one, I’ve thought the lower part of it was written by the girl. It makes perfect sense to me.

    And now FAKE NEWS Britbart is acting like it is a forgery. GOP are disgusting for such foul crap like that.

  1317. Paul says:

    I’m just so sick and tired of the right-wing smear crap. And you guys don’t even get it.

    F&ck YOU, ALL.

  1318. lisab says:

    and paul said he was such a christian too …

  1319. Paul says:

    I am moved by this f&cking crap because of my belief in God.

  1320. lisab says:

    yes … i remember in the gospel of jerry when jesus said,

    and you romans “F&ck YOU, ALL”

    your belief in god is obvious to all

  1321. lisab says:

    we need new trolls

    this new batch is just too callow

  1322. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1362. “we need new trolls this new batch is just too callow”

    Wait til the boat gets back from Bogo Pogo.

  1323. Paul says:

    I’m just filling in. Bear with me a little.

  1324. Phil says:

    Come on Paul. Moore wins Tuesday, Republicans use the ethics committee to get him out of the senate and governor appoints a replacement who is respectable and has no past sexual baggage. Everyone wins………except of course a certain senior senator from NY who won’t get that senate vote for the next three years – but then that’s your REAL beef, isn’t it.

  1325. Paul says:

    What would be wrong with having a respectable and intelligent representative for the people of Alabama.

  1326. Paul says:

    Phil: we know that isn’t gonna happen.

  1327. lisab says:

    “I’m just filling in. Bear with me a little.”

    but your star witness just admitted she lied and you stated that this makes her more credible

    you have to do better than that …

    i mean come on … robbie is a better troll than you …

    don’t be that guy

  1328. lisab says:

    i mean is this match fixing? are the dem leadership just betting against jones? oh … the star witness forged the yearbook this makes her more credible!

    this is why george bush could start wars with random middle eastern countries … because the dems cannot get some decent trolls onto political blogs

  1329. Mr.Vito says:

    I just watched Trump’s Pensacola rally. It was very good.

  1330. lisab says:

    I just watched Trump’s Pensacola rally. It was very good.
    ————————————-

    i haven’t felt this bad since i went to that celine dion concert

  1331. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1365. “What would be wrong with having a respectable and intelligent representative for the people of Alabama.”

    The Democrats might have had a chance if they ran an effective campaign making Jones appear as a moderate, and they softened the leftist rhetoric. Instead they went off the left wall — Gloria Allred, Nancy Pelosi and all the usual shrill baggage. Then the sex scandals began hitting the Democrats in droves; their the ones taking the arrows now.

    This is the exact same craziness that resulted in the election of Trump. If the Democrats don’t get some sanity back, they will self-destruct in 2020 and Trump will get re-elected.

  1332. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The person who takes the cake is Gloria Allred: “Your honor you can trust my client, she only forged half a document.”

  1333. Paul says:

    It’s not forged, you moron.

  1334. lisab says:

    yes it is paul …

    although i know as a troll you cannot admit it

    it is ovah

  1335. Paul says:

    It is clearly his handwriting and the experts all agree.

  1336. Paul says:

    Open you eyes and stop echoing the idiots on here.

  1337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1373. Paul, here is the inscription in the yearbook, which was put forward initially as being done by Moore. Are you claiming that Moore wrote it all, if not, and Nelson wrote any of it — that part of it is forged.

    “A week before the alleged attack, Nelson said she asked Moore to sign her yearbook. She showed the inscription to reporters, which read: “To a sweeter, more beautiful girl, I could not say Merry Christmas. Christmas 1977. Love Roy Moore, Old Hickory House.” It was signed, “Roy Moore, D.A.”

  1338. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Also Paul, why won’t Allred release the yearbook so that impartial experts can evaluate the actual handwriting. The expert Allred is relying on works for her. What do they have to hide?

  1339. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    LoL. I knew coming here all you idiots would buy the fake news story hook line sinker. The lady annotated Roy’s signature with the date. But hey that’s enough for Fox News who had to change their story with the addenum:

    “An update to this story reflects that Beverly Young Nelson admits writing what ABC News characterized as “notes” beneath what she says is Roy Moore’s signature, and that the only notes below the signature are the date and location. Furthermore, the headline on story now specifies that Nelson admits to writing part of the inscription herself, rather than forging part of it. ”

    So after basically lying that she had forged the signature, they had to retract it. Where’s the firing? Oh wait you don’t care, it’s spreading like wildfire on Republican facebook groups.

    It’s fine though, elect a Pedophile to vote on a deeply unpopular tax cut for billionaires.

    The “victory” of Roy Moore will end up being the straw that broke the back of the GOP for a generation.

  1340. jason says:

    The “victory” of Roy Moore will end up being the straw that broke the back of the GOP for a generation.”

    I guess PeteWilson is giving up on the moonbat candidate. Maybe if you pick somebody not completely out of tune with the state he wants to represent you will have better luck next time. But you want to run a left wing hack and whine about Moore.

    I remember when Chekote categorically stated here that the GOP was finished because of the Arizona Immigration Law.

  1341. jason says:

    Paul Troll is desperately trying damage control.

    Everyone in AL already knows the accuser and All Red lied.

    That’s all they need to know. You can call it a forgery or a lie, take your choice.

  1342. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Paul
    I agree that Mrs. Nelson did not commit a felonious forgery.
    What she did do is lie about, tamper with and alter a document she used as evidence. Her credibility is now less than zero.
    She and Allred tainted the whole litany of accusations against Mr. Moore and has probably handed him a convincing victory come Tuesday.

  1343. Tina says:

    sobiec ??
    @JackPosobiec
    ·

    Allred – “Yearbook”

    ABC – “Candidate Trump”

    Reuters – “Deutsche Bank”

    CNN – “Wikileaks Email”

    All in one week, al fake news by the media loved by the jebots.

  1344. Tgca says:

    1381 Chekote?

    I miss Chekote.
    *sigh*
    Chekote come back please.
    TgcaGnat <3 Chekote.

  1345. Wobbles says:

    Sigh…..

    And I believed it all, I am soooooo disappointed…

    But I am hoping that this weekend the MSM will have something that IS true I can breathlessly post here.

  1346. MichiganGuy says:

    * BOOM *

    A handwriting expert prominently cited by the Washington Post on the matter of the yearbook presented as evidence by Roy Moore accuser Beverly Young Nelson raised new questions today in a Breitbart News interview about the inscription and signature at the center of national controversy. Specifically, the expert raised doubts about whether the initials “DA” at the end of Moore’s alleged signature evidenced stylistic differences when compared to the rest of the writing in the yearbook.

    The forensic document examiner, Mark Songer, a former FBI agent, also called for Nelson’s attorney, activist Gloria Allred, to release the original yearbook “to all parties for examination. I think it is only fair. It shouldn’t be hidden or anything like that in my opinion.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/08/exclusive-handwriting-expert-touted-by-washington-post-turns-on-gloria-allred-calls-for-activist-attorney-to-release-yearbook/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  1347. jason says:

    Poor Paul Troll not only wasted his money on the Spinning Course but got ripped off in his Damage Control Seminar too.

    I suggest the Better Business Bureau.

  1348. jason says:

    It’s easy to see how the Yearbook fiasco developed.

    They needed some kind of “evidence” to back up unsubstantiated allegations from 40 years ago and this was the best they could come up with.

  1349. jason says:

    And I think the creep was a big deal in a small town. If the mayor of my podunk town I grew up in wrote in my yearbook, it would be a big deal to me at the time.”

    It’s exactly the opposite, Paul really is a moron even for a troll.

    In a small town, the mayor, the sheriff, etc. are all local yokels that everyone knows, nobody would ever think of them as “famous” or a big deal.

    And of course Moore wasn’t famous anyway, just a 30 something lawyer.

  1350. mnw says:

    I love the smell of “Moore Pulling Away” polls in the morning. Complements a great cup of coffee!

    The best recent poll Jones had was the old Gravis one posted at the top of this thread. /liberal empire

    Troll Paul has the sads because moderate Jones (just like moderate Claire McCaskill!) is getting his lefty adz kicked? So troll summarizes his endless arguments, “F*** all of you!”? So sweet!

    You know what, gang? On Wednesday morning next, the entire fake news empire is going to have as much interest in the yearbook and Nelson as they do in the battle of Meggido.

  1351. mnw says:

    sb delete “/liberal empire”

  1352. mnw says:

    And one other small point, troll: F you especially, as Will Rogers once said.

  1353. JC says:

    Scott Adams thinks that a major shift happened this week on the mueller gang. Before, any news of mueller’s witch hunt hurt Trump. Now? The ‘investigation’ appears so tainted with extreme bias and petty indictments that Adams now thinks that the longer this fiasco goes on, the more it will help Trump.

    To some degree, I think he is right. After a year of running his own personal DOJ, he has come up empty handed. Aside from possible tax evasion laws on manafort – nothing to do with ‘collusion’, and a process crime on Flynn – lying about something that wasn’t even illegal, Mueller has produced nothing. And GOD KNOWS the man and his army of Clinton lawyers are pillaging every aspect of Trump’s life desperately trying to find anything they can use for a quasi reason of impeachment.

    And now, after a whole year of russia, russia, russia, russia, Mueller is now moving on to ‘corruption of justice’ against Trump!? …For exercising his constitutional power to fire his own staff?

    It’s insane. And shows that this whole conspiracy was created solely for the purpose of taking down Trump.

  1354. Wes says:

    This has become so ridiculous I’m to the point where I in a way want Roy Moore to win just to see the Left go into faux conniptions about how Alabamans elected him.

    Well, the Left effectively created the path for his victory. After the second round of allegations, Moore started heading straight for defeat. Then Americans became cognizant of the plethora of sexual deviants and offenders on the Left.

    That caused Moore to become a political phoenix and rise from his own ashes. Now Moore will become a Senator, and yhe Left will try to tar every Republican with him…

    …all while dealing with a steady drip of new allegations against their own people.

    It is truly hilarious.

  1355. jason says:

    Good, I was just reaching for another cup of coffee hoping a more alert brain would be able to understand the liberal empire reference.

  1356. Wes says:

    TIPW, I hate to tell you, but Roy Moore has pissed off the wrong person in Mitch McConnell by accusing the Majority Leader of being behind the allegations and threatening to dethrone him. Moore will be a backbencher at best in the Senate and may not even have any committee assignments if he doesn’t shut up.

    In six moths, Roy Moore will at best be a Jeopardy trivia question. This will be a distant memory by thrn.

  1357. jason says:

    Mueller would have to really go out on a partisan limb on the “obstruction of justice” angle if he can’t come up with any evidence of collusion.

    What justice was Trump obstructing if there was no collusion?

    In the end, we can keep coming back to the fact Trump never needed a reason to fire Comey anyway. He could have said I fired him because I hate his ties.

    I also note that the investigation was supposed to be of Russian interference AND collusion. It seems like its all about Trump, I thought the Dems were interested in knowing how Russia caused Hillary to lose.

  1358. mnw says:

    The Wise Men have just moved AL senate from “Likely R” to “Lean R.”

    I think that means they think the race has tightened. Lousy luck on the timing of THAT call.

  1359. Paul says:

    The yearbook is not a forgery. Handwriting analysis has indidcated that it is Moore’s handwriting for everything except for the note at the bottom that says “Old Hickory and the date”. Nothing all that goofy. So, F off.

  1360. Wes says:

    Baghdad Paul is doubling down on the yearbook even as Jones inches closer and closer to defeat.

  1361. jason says:

    I have no doubt Moore will be an embarrassment to the party and will be used as a tool to attack Rs all the way to the election.

    Like wes, I will take some pleasure in seeing the MSM’s gambit fail, but then I will realize a scumbag like Moore is a Senator.

    If he wins, I will be gloating at the spectacular MSM fail, while wondering how someone as unfit for office as Moore can prevail.

  1362. mnw says:

    I envision Moore as being Rand Paul 2.0, only without all the party loyalty.

    That’s why I was never a Moore fan. Because I’m not a Rand Paul fan.

    I realize Sen. Paul is a libertarian & Moore is a who-knows-what authoritarian, but they are both unreliable s***disturbers.

  1363. Wes says:

    RRH-always behind the curve.

    They do actuslly have a pretty good track record with their polling. Their analysis is somewhere in an alternate universe though.

  1364. jason says:

    “Paul says:
    December 9, 2017 at 12:38 am

    What would be wrong with having a respectable and intelligent representative for the people of Alabama.”

    I didn’t know you were a Strange supporter.

  1365. mnw says:

    Paul troll

    Will you be here with us Tuesday night, still talking about muh yearbook?

  1366. DW says:

    And I thought it was going to be a slow weekend. We now have two ‘Rauls’ on the list. Four new entries:

    Alex Kozinski (R) – Circuit Court Judge
    Jon Heely (D) – Disney music executive
    Raul Bocanegra (D) – CA Assemblyman
    Tony Mendoza (D) – CA Assemblyman

    Adam Venit (D) – Hollywood agent
    *Al Franken (D) – Entertainer, US senator
    Al Green (D) – US Congressman
    Alex Kozinski (R) – Circuit Court Judge
    Andrew Kreisberg (D) – Film producer
    Bill Clinton (D) – 42nd POTUS
    *Bill O’Reilly (I) – Journalist/Entertainer
    $ Blake Farenthold (R) – US Congressman
    Brett Ratner (D) – Film Producer
    Bruce Weber (D) – Fashion photographer
    Bryan Singer (D) – Film Director
    Bryon Hefner (D)
    *Charlie Rose (D) – Journalist
    Dan Schoen (D) – State senator, MN
    Danny Masterson (D) – Actor
    David Sweeney (D) – NPR Chief News editor
    Dustin Hoffman (D) – Actor
    Dylan Howard (D) – Tabloid editor
    Ed Westwick (D) – Actor
    *Garrison Keillor (D) – Radio host
    Geoffrey Rush (D) – Actor
    George H. W. Bush (R) – 41st POTUS
    George Takei (D) – Actor
    Geraldo Rivera