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Bredesen Leads Blackburn in Tennessee

Now that Republicans have managed to lose one seemingly no-lose US Senate seat in Alabama, Gravis Marketing has released a new poll showing that Tennessee might be the next seat to fall.

US SENATE – TENNESSEE (Gravis)
Phil Bredesen (D) 42%
Marsha Blackburn (R) 40%

Phil Bredesen (D) 42%
Stephen Fincher (R) 38%

Peyton Manning (R) 44%
Phil Bredesen (R) 39%

This poll was done December 11-12th among likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:57 am
Filed under: General | Comments (375)

375 Responses to “Bredesen Leads Blackburn in Tennessee”

  1. jason says:

    First, the leader, exalted one.

  2. Cash Cow TM says:

    FINALLY!!

    DRUDGE

    DEM WOMAN ACCUSED OF SEX HARASSING MAN

  3. Cash Cow TM says:

    THANKS FOR A CLEAN SHEET, DAVE!
    🙂

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    Translate for Greedo, damn it.

  5. DW says:

    woah…cow and I have one of those moments!

  6. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie is pure in his hatred of Trump. I respect that. For me it came down to whether I wanted Hillary or Trump picking judges. In the real world, there was only one choice for me.

    Trump is still a vile scumbag but he blocked Hillary.

  7. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s a Hanukkah Miracle! Thank for the thread, Wizard. Shalom.

  8. hugh says:

    Bitterlaw says:

    December 15, 2017 at 9:00 am

    My father has a friend who was an FBI agent. He said that at one point, all agents had to have law degrees. I never felt like looking it up. I doubt that is true now.

    I knew several cpas that became fbi agents in the early 80s. I suspect their backgrounds are more valuable than an legal background

  9. DW says:

    8 – good point…imagine the judges Hillary would have picked. But Robbie cannot bring himself to say anything positive about Trump. He wasn’t my pick in the GOP primary. He was at or near the bottom of the list of 17 candidates as far as I was concerned.

    But Gorsuch is Gorsuch. A fact that cannot be ignored. Trump gave us Gorsuch instead of a leftist loon.

  10. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is the first I have heard of a Hatch Act investigation against Comey. Mr. Sessions, where are you?

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/

    Does anyone else have information on this matter? The Deep State was convinced of a H. Clinton 2016 victory and got sloppy.

  11. jason says:

    Bitter, that sounds like the Huaylla Wanca dialect of Quechua, I am not that well versed in it.

  12. jason says:

    Sheeple, there was no pro-Hillary bias in the Justice Dept under Obama.

    Wobbie’s sources in the MSM guarantee it.

  13. MichiganGuy says:

    IDF Put Hormones In Water, Gave Palestinian Youths Awkward Boners To Keep Them Home On ‘Day Of Rage’

    http://www.preoccupiedterritory.com/idf-put-hormones-in-water-gave-palestinian-youths-awkward-boners-to-keep-them-home-on-day-of-rage/

    LOL

  14. Wobbles says:

    “Trump gave us Gorsuch instead of a leftist loon.”

    Do you really want to compare an insult to a fine upstanding unbiased professional like Mika to 20 years + of conservative SCOTUS decisions by Gorsuch.

    Where are your priorities, man?

  15. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    December 15, 2017 at 11:08 am
    8 – good point…imagine the judges Hillary would have picked. But Robbie cannot bring himself to say anything positive about Trump. He wasn’t my pick in the GOP primary. He was at or near the bottom of the list of 17 candidates as far as I was concerned.
    But Gorsuch is Gorsuch. A fact that cannot be ignored. Trump gave us Gorsuch instead of a leftist loon.

    – During the election, I did not think a Supreme Court pick was worth a vote for Trump. And now after having watched a year of this presidency, I still believe that a Supreme Court pick was not worth a vote for Trump.

    As great as Neil Gorsuch may be, was that pick worth losing the House majority in 2018? Was that pick worth squandering a generational chance to hit 60 votes in the Senate and possibly even losing control of the Senate? Was that pick worth the widespread collateral damage Trump has caused for the Republican party so far?

    I would have hated to lose Scalia’s seat, but consider what would likely have happened had Hillary squeaked by in 2016. She would have been a widely unpopular president and Republicans would be in a prime position to gain House seats and possibly obtain a filibuster proof Senate majority of 60 seats in the Senate.

    And since Hillary would never have become a popular president, Republicans assuming they didn’t nominate an idiot, would be headed towards unified control in 2020 where Democrats would have ZERO say because of the size of the majorities.

    Essentially, we’ve now gotten the short term benefit of ONE SCOTUS pick, but are probably going to lose in the longterm with a Democrat House and Senate in 2018 and a Democrat president in 2020.

  16. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 15, 2017 at 11:30 am
    Sheeple, there was no pro-Hillary bias in the Justice Dept under Obama.
    Wobbie’s sources in the MSM guarantee it.

    – Of course, I’ve said not such thing, but your collapse into Trumpism has caused you to lie and lie and lie while quoting idiotic, conspiratorial sources like Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch.

  17. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    December 15, 2017 at 11:32 am
    “Trump gave us Gorsuch instead of a leftist loon.”
    Do you really want to compare an insult to a fine upstanding unbiased professional like Mika to 20 years + of conservative SCOTUS decisions by Gorsuch.
    Where are your priorities, man?

    – On the other hand Jason fraud, is Neil Gorsuch worth squandering generational control of the House, a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, and the likelihood of a Democrat president in 2020 who will give us single payer? And oh by the way, Republicans will be losing control at the very time redistricting comes around. Is Neil Gorsuch worth all of that?

  18. Robbie says:

    Oh, and was Trump’s disastrous, boneheaded, idiotic first year as president worth losing the Alabama Senate seat?

  19. NYCmike says:

    “Oh, and was Trump’s disastrous, boneheaded, idiotic first year as president worth losing the Alabama Senate seat?”

    -Oh, and was Congress’s disastrous, boneheaded, idiotic, do-nothing first year worth losing the Alabama Senate seat?

  20. dblaikie says:

    Since the new Star Wars is out, I have quote for Robbie from Obi Wan Kanobi: “Only a sith talks in absolutes..” Gee, think of that– Darth Robbie — now that will give you nightmares.

  21. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Trump has been exactly what we thought he would be.

    Who thought a 70-year-old non-politician egotistical blowhard would suddenly change into some stoic, respectful, Eisenhower-like statesman?

    Congress is full of Republicans. What conservative Republican-type legislation have they sent to Trump for him to sign into law?

  22. NYCmike says:

    Also, what type of “life-long Republican” wanted a President Trump telling them what, and how, to write legislation to be passed in Congress?

  23. NYCmike says:

    And, NO, I do NOT want a figurehead President.

    I want a President who is the head of the Executive Branch, which is supposed to enforce the bills WRITTEN BY CONGRESS AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE PRESIDENT.

  24. Tina says:

    More triggering

    Climate change to be removed as a national security threat.

    Jebots will be unhinged.

  25. dblaikie says:

    Talking certainty about the 2018 elections brings back rhetoric I have heard before. I now understand Robbie is evolving into the new MD. Or maybe Robbie is MD in disguise. But that can’t be, because for all of MD’s huge ego, he still is alot smarter than whoever Robbie is.

  26. Tina says:

    rt Schlichter Retweeted
    Jake Tapper
    Jake Tapper
    @jaketapper
    ·
    2h
    President Trump this morning after being asked: “I don’t want to talk about pardons with Michael Flynn yet, we’ll see what happens, let’s see. I can say this, when you look at what’s going on with the FBI and the Justice Department, people are very, very angry.”

    And more triggering…

  27. Tina says:

    Too early for pardoning flynn. Judge may toss this sheot out.

  28. DW says:

    “As great as Neil Gorsuch may be, was that pick worth losing the House majority in 2018?”

    Oh I didn’t realize that I must have gone through a time-tunnel and its already after November 2018. How many seats did we lose?

  29. NYCmike says:

    “I want a President who is the head of the Executive Branch”

    -And along with this, I will mention, once again, what Tina has said many time…..the relaxing of regulations is a YUGE incentive for businesses.

    An anecdotal story: 2 men we used to routinely deal with, who would take older telecom equipment from large companies and re-sell it to smaller companies or sell for scrap, have called us 3 times in the last 6 months, after NOT CALLING since 2009. It seems that investments in equipment, personnel, and expansion are being made again, and both of them are seeing an uptick in their business. BOTH credit the election of Trump and his new approach after 8 years of Obama.

  30. NYCmike says:

    “Oh I didn’t realize that I must have gone through a time-tunnel and its already after November 2018. How many seats did we lose?”

    -Robbie,

    I will go totally #NEVERTRUMP if you can also tell us who wins the Super Bowl, NBA and NHL Finals, and the World Series next year!

  31. jason says:

    Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch.”

    I have always admired Judicial Watch, they do great work.

    They get documents released that are real.

  32. NYCmike says:

    “They get documents released that are real.”

    -“TRUMP CHUMPS”!

  33. jason says:

    what would likely have happened had Hillary squeaked by in 2016. ”

    Ah yes, I love this theory also put forth by Corey.

    Hillary would have done no harm, she was what, a non-ideological compromiser. LOL

    First thing she would have nominated a liberal SCOTUS judge like Garland and the Dems would have anything they wanted for the next 20 years.

    And we did not trade Trump for Hillary just for Gorsuch, Trump has done a lot of other things that are good, the tax overhaul will be momentous if it happens, including ending the Obamacare mandate and drilling in ANWR.

    Kept us from throwing away billions on climate change hype. Is deregulating large sections of the economy. Killed net neutrality. Appointed great cabinet members for a lot of departments.
    Rebuilding the military.

    FIGHTING AGAINST THE CORRUPT, BIASED, DISHONEST MSM.

    The idea that Hillary’s presidency would somehow be benign is a joke. It would have been a complete disaster.

    I rather 100 times take the chance of losing in 2018 than have Hillary as President.

  34. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Do you speak Boccii?

  35. Paul says:

    6: looks like a rat.

  36. Bitterlaw says:

    In 2016, I said it was not possible to know what would happen in the 2018 elections. Seems prophetic. Or not.

  37. Tgca says:

    2. cash

    This b*tch needs to be crucified, dragged through the mud, and have her life ruined. How dare a woman sexually harrass a male in this day and age?

    Sooner or late I knew this would come to light, as I’ve worked with many women over the years who have made inappropriate comments that rise to the same level as many are accusing men these days.

    The pendulum swings both ways but more often than not, I hypothesize most men would never make hay of it because they would not be taken seriously, ridiculed, or they’re too embarrassed to bring it forth.

  38. Phil says:

    35

    Jason nails it.

    Hillary would have been anything but benign. The damage she would have done on top of Obama’s eight years could not be calculated.

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – Remember when many of us expected Obama to be unpopular and lose in 2012? How did that work out?

    Federal Judges serve for life. Hillary would have replaced all the liberal dinosaurs on SCOTUS with new liberals in their 40s. Even if the GOP won the White House in 2020, the damage would have been done.

  40. Chicon says:

    Robbie – having Trump, with all his numerous warts, is far better than having Hillary. Easy choice.

    Some want to whine about the poor choices (of candidates), but those are the choices. None of the above was not one of them. Neither was JEB! Some have acknowledged this. Other are still not at the acceptance stage of grief.

  41. Tgca says:

    Drudge has link on Lisa Bloom seeking cash for women to come forth and accuse Trump before 2016 Election Day. If the content is correct as reported, she looks highly unethical. I’m tired of this crap of just making any accusation against men with little or no proof. Time to ruin the lives of someone women too. Women should be believed only after their backgrounds and bank accounts are checked. ?

  42. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – As a Trump voter who hates Trump, I can endure him in office for the judicial picks.

  43. Chicon says:

    Me, too, Bitter. Tax cuts, too. Regulations reduction, too. Those are good things that Hillary wouldn’t have done. He is very often a cringe-worthy person who I don’t like. Of course, so is Hillary.

  44. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    December 15, 2017 at 11:57 am
    Since the new Star Wars is out, I have quote for Robbie from Obi Wan Kanobi: “Only a sith talks in absolutes..” Gee, think of that– Darth Robbie — now that will give you nightmares.

    – Wow, that changes everything said nobody.

  45. NYCmike says:

    Which politician isn’t “cringe-worthy”?

    Have you seen Romney say “Who let the dogs out!?”?

    That was very funny, but in a very “cringe-inducing” way!

  46. NYCmike says:

    Robbie to say NOTHING refuting jason’s rant in #35 except “BUT GORSUCH!”.

  47. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 15, 2017 at 12:08 pm
    And, NO, I do NOT want a figurehead President.
    I want a President who is the head of the Executive Branch, which is supposed to enforce the bills WRITTEN BY CONGRESS AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE PRESIDENT.

    – The 1850’s called. They want their antique version of the presidency back.

    Sorry to inform you, but the executive in our system of government is nor merely some functionary who rubber stamps legislation.

    Our president is both the head of state and the head of government. We’re not a parliamentary system where the Speaker of the House serves as head of government as the Prime Minister does in the British system.

  48. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 15, 2017 at 12:13 pm
    Too early for pardoning flynn. Judge may toss this sheot out.

    – Bless your heart.

  49. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    December 15, 2017 at 12:18 pm
    “As great as Neil Gorsuch may be, was that pick worth losing the House majority in 2018?”
    Oh I didn’t realize that I must have gone through a time-tunnel and its already after November 2018. How many seats did we lose?

    – There’s nothing I love more than the “eyes wide shut” approach some are taking to the unfolding disaster of the Trump presidency.

    Trump’s approval rating in the RCP average is 37.3% today, the lowest of his presidency. And since we know (we all agreed on this in 2014) the best predictor of a party’s success in a midterm in the president’s approval rating, a number in the 30’s spell destruction for Republicans.

    Could Trump boost his approval to 45% by election day? Sure. Has he given us any reason to believe he will course correct after a disastrous first year? Nope. Is there any reason to believe Trump realizes his actions have hurt himself and the party he needs to protect him? Nope.

  50. NYCmike says:

    “Sorry to inform you, but the executive in our system of government is nor merely some functionary who rubber stamps legislation.”

    -IF a bill is passed that the President had no say in writing, and he agrees with what the bill does, and will enforce these laws as the head of the Executive Branch………..THIS MAKES HIM “some functionary who rubber stamps legislation.”?

    In my mind, this sounds like a President who is allowing Congress to do what they were elected to do, and it allows he/she to do what they were elected to do, which is lead the Executive Branch, WHICH ENFORCES THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

    VERY RADICAL!

  51. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 15, 2017 at 12:48 pm
    Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch.”
    I have always admired Judicial Watch, they do great work.
    They get documents released that are real.

    – Larry Klayman was a clown and so is Tom Fitton. That buffoon went on Shannon Bream’s show Wednesday night and said the FBI is operating like the KGB. That’s disgusting and embarrassing.

  52. NYCmike says:

    Now, in the present, as opposed to 1850, that could happen if we had a Congress that had any b*lls whatsoever.

  53. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    December 15, 2017 at 12:59 pm
    what would likely have happened had Hillary squeaked by in 2016. ”
    Ah yes, I love this theory also put forth by Corey.
    Hillary would have done no harm, she was what, a non-ideological compromiser. LOL

    – With a Republican House and a Republican Senate, the harm Hillary Clinton could have done legislatively and with judicial appointments would have been close to zero. She could have done things by executive order, but, as we’ve seen with Trump, all it takes is a new executive order to undo them.

    That said, where did I ever say Hillary would have done no harm is a four year presidency? Nowhere. In fact, it would have been the harm that she would have done that would have propelled Republicans to huge House and Senate majorities in 2018 and a probable sizable presidential win in 2020.

  54. NYCmike says:

    ” That buffoon went on Shannon Bream’s show Wednesday night”

    -Robbie claims to watch more “buffoon”-ish garbage than most, yet he has admitted to never-reading, never-watching, and totally-ignoring more sources than any person I have ever encountered.

    Methinks his opinions about all of these “buffoons” are actually the opinions of someone from the MSM whom Robbie likes…….

  55. NYCmike says:

    “– With a Republican House and a Republican Senate, the harm Hillary Clinton could have done legislatively and with judicial appointments would have been close to zero. She could have done things by executive order, but, as we’ve seen with Trump, all it takes is a new executive order to undo them.”

    -This statement makes it sound as if Congress can ignore the President, and simply pass legislation that they want to pass…..what an odd thought to have……such a simpleton-type of sentence.

  56. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 15, 2017 at 1:06 pm
    In 2016, I said it was not possible to know what would happen in the 2018 elections. Seems prophetic. Or not.

    – Presidential elections are very different from midterms. In presidential years, both parties have standard bearers who push competing visions for the country. And to be honest, it’s that fact that caused me to totally misjudge 2016. The country didn’t want Hillary as president and was willing by just enough votes to take a chance on the unknown.

    On the other hand, a midterm election is about one thing and one thing only: the president and his party. The party not in the White House in the first midterm election of a new presidency (2002 and 1934 are the exceptions) almost never needs to do anything other than be against the president. And since presidential approval in the key predictor, the lower it is the worse the president’s party does.

    If Trump’s approval is anywhere near what it is today, it will be a wipeout for Republicans and there is little reason to believe right now Trump will change his ways. So if that proves to be the case, I don’t believe the short term trade off for Gorsuch was worth the long term pain for the Republican Party.

  57. NYCmike says:

    Also, to think Hillary and the MSM would NOT have had her way in regards to judges is ridiculous!

    McConnell did a great job in holding off the Obama pick, but no way that would have lasted through a Hillary term….and honestly…..I don’t even think I would have agreed to that, purely from a Constitutional outlook.

  58. Tina says:

    Bless your heart opined the paper plane chrasher.

  59. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    Robbie – Remember when many of us expected Obama to be unpopular and lose in 2012? How did that work out?

    – I’m not sure Obama and Clinton are comparable. Obama started with a high approval rating and, even when his job rating sunk, his personal approval rating remained higher. That was never going to the case with Clinton. She was personally viewed very, very unfavorably by the public and had been for the better part of 25 years. The chances she was going to turn that around, especially with a Republican Congress that was out to ruin her, were remote.

  60. Tgca says:

    Per Newsmax article:

    Trump Has Record Number of Judges Confirmed in 1st Year

    He just hit 12 appeals court judge today, surpassing both JFK and Nixon for 11 each.

    The article goes on that these young jurists will long outlast Trump’s presidency.

    I agree, with this VERY VERY BAD NEWS, along with reductions in regulations and potential tax cut passage, and a growing economy, as well as a special prosecutor office being investigated by Congress for shenanigans, that Trump has had a DISASTROUS 1st year.

  61. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 15, 2017 at 1:13 pm
    Robbie – having Trump, with all his numerous warts, is far better than having Hillary. Easy choice.

    – We’ll see how everyone feels about that in a year or so.

    While most here are concerned about Trump, I’m concerned about the Republican Party. And by the way, the Republican Party will, I hope, still be standing long after Trump is gone. He’s a transient figure. The party is a mainstay.

    After a year of watching this mess, I don’t think Gorsuch was worth all of this. My view can change over time, but that’s what it is right now and Trump’s given me little reason to believe anything will change.

  62. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 15, 2017 at 1:58 pm
    ” That buffoon went on Shannon Bream’s show Wednesday night”
    -Robbie claims to watch more “buffoon”-ish garbage than most, yet he has admitted to never-reading, never-watching, and totally-ignoring more sources than any person I have ever encountered.

    – I saw the clip on Mediaite.com. It made me sick to my stomach.

  63. mnw says:

    I’ve been a proud member (contributor) to Judicial Watch for years.

  64. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 15, 2017 at 2:06 pm
    Bless your heart opined the paper plane chrasher.

    – Is that the best you’ve got, Tinfoil? No witty idiocy from Nolte, Cernovich, Posibie, or Cardillo?

  65. Robbie says:

    The Trump bubonic plague is spreading.

    Dave Wasserman?
    @Redistrict

    Hearing of a poll in #OH15 showing Dem in a surprisingly close race against NRCC Chair Rep. Steve Stivers (R). Makes sense: @CookPolitical PVI is only R+7 & district includes Athens & Columbus burbs.

  66. Robbie says:

    Tgca says:
    December 15, 2017 at 2:07 pm
    Per Newsmax article:
    Trump Has Record Number of Judges Confirmed in 1st Year
    He just hit 12 appeals court judge today, surpassing both JFK and Nixon for 11 each.
    The article goes on that these young jurists will long outlast Trump’s presidency.
    I agree, with this VERY VERY BAD NEWS, along with reductions in regulations and potential tax cut passage, and a growing economy, as well as a special prosecutor office being investigated by Congress for shenanigans, that Trump has had a DISASTROUS 1st year.

    – Trump’s approval rating in the RCP average is 37.3% today. Clearly, the vast majority of America does not agree with you that this has been a good first year. If they did, his approval rating would be closer to 50% rather than 35%.

    If Obama or Hillary had ended their first years as president with a 37% job approval, this forum and conservatives across the board would deem their first years to have been disasters. But for whatever reason, Trumpers feel the need to claim up is down and down is up in order to say everything is fine.

  67. Hugh says:

    39. Or they just do not care.

  68. Tina says:

    Any muh russian or mueh obstruction news.

    Btw, poor lisa bloom, caught on tape..

  69. Tina says:

    The jebots schiff for brain is on cnn blasting rosenstein.

    More and more drats attacking rosenstein.

  70. Robbie says:

    Not sure how NYCmike will handle this news.

    Zeke Miller?
    @ZekeJMiller

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Tennessee Republican Sen. Bob Corker announces support for tax bill, boost for GOP.

  71. Robbie says:

    Hmm.

    Philip Rucker?
    @PhilipRucker

    A @jdawsey1 scoop —> Jared Kushner’s legal team looks to hire crisis public relations firm

  72. Tina says:

    Ok tax cuts look more stronger todqy. We need to still worry about the az real cons, senator planned parenthood, and the maine chicklet.

  73. Bitterlaw says:

    There were 2 choices, Robbie. You can make the argument that Trump is a disaster for the GOP. Hillary would have been a disaster for the nation.

  74. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    New sexual harassment allegation. This one against Virginia Democrat Congressman Bobby Scott.

    http://wavy.com/2017/12/15/former-legislative-aide-accuses-congressman-bobby-scott-of-inappropriate-touching/

  75. Wes says:

    Ironically Robbie still thinks GWB–an unmitigated disaster both for the GOP and for the nation–was a great President while extolling how bad Trump may yet become for Republicans.

  76. Tina says:

    Bls, comment 77 is spot on.

  77. Bitterlaw says:

    This year’s HHR Holiday Part has been postponed due to security concerns. We cannot guarantee that anybody would be safe from harassment. Espeically Tgca. Somebody that fabulous is always drawing attention.

  78. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm
    There were 2 choices, Robbie. You can make the argument that Trump is a disaster for the GOP. Hillary would have been a disaster for the nation.

    – Trump is a disaster for the nation as well.

  79. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:04 pm
    Ironically Robbie still thinks GWB–an unmitigated disaster both for the GOP and for the nation–was a great President while extolling how bad Trump may yet become for Republicans.

    – No, I don’t. I was extremely critical of GWB in this forum during the last few years of his presidency. I think he’s a much better person than Trump, but the end of his presidency was a disaster.

  80. Bitterlaw says:

    I guess Robbie does not think judges are important.

  81. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – In what way is the US a disaster? Today. Not in 2018. Today.

  82. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:20 pm
    I guess Robbie does not think judges are important.

    – I do think judges are important, but after a year of this presidency I don’t think Gorsuch and the others were worth the harm Trump is doing to the party and the country.

  83. Paul says:

    Apparently Roy Moore’s wife lied. None of their lawyers are jews.

  84. Cash Cow TM says:

    “This year’s HHR Holiday Party has been postponed due to…”

    Wha..?

    After all the preliminary work I have done…and jason cooking batches of HHR party scrapple…
    #############################################
    I am furious…will send a bill for all my work so far….

  85. Bitterlaw says:

    Fine. The party is back on. However, the mistletoe has been replaced by festive hanging restraining orders.

  86. CG says:

    George W. Bush will be seen as one of the best Presidents America ever had and Donald Trump will be seen as one of its worst.

  87. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:22 pm
    Robbie – In what way is the US a disaster? Today. Not in 2018. Today.

    – Trump has systematically attacked the institutions of government in his first year. Not because he’s a disrupter, but because they told him things he didn’t want to hear.

    Trump started his presidency by claiming the American intelligence services were as bad as NAZI’s. Now, he’s set his sights on the FBI and the Justice Department.

    As a result, Americans have lost even greater faith in the ability of their government, not just to lead, but to function at all. On top of that, he has consistently attacked the press and claimed they are enemies of the state.

    Some here like Tinfoil may cheer on the attacks on the media, but now we live in a country were people simply disregard any news that doesn’t fit with their preconceived notion.

  88. Wes says:

    CG says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:29 pm
    George W. Bush will be seen as one of the absolute worst Presidents America ever had and Donald Trump may be seen as one of its worst also.

    There. I fixed it for you, Corey.

  89. Wes says:

    Has Moore conceded yet? Is he still doing his Chris McDaniel impersonation?

  90. CG says:

    No, that’s not what Corey said, it’s what Wes says and it’s among the biggest ZZZZZZZs in HHR history.

  91. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:29 pm
    George W. Bush will be seen as one of the best Presidents America ever had and Donald Trump will be seen as one of its worst.

    – I like GWB as a person very much and I enthusiastically voted for him in 2000 and 2004. That said, his second term was a disaster. He allowed the Iraq insurgency to become a full blown civil war before he decided to do anything. And even when it was painfully obvious Cheney and Rumsfeld were in an alternate reality, he still listened to them.

    Politically speaking, GWB squandered his second term at the start when he set out to reform Social Security rather than tackle tax reform when he had a 55 seat Senate majority. Add this to the Iraq war mess and he wrecked the party in 2006 and 2008.

    Just to tell you how bad 2005 was for GWB, he tried to put Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court.

  92. Wes says:

    It’s the absolute truth, Corey. No one outside GWB’s fanboys seriously thinks Americans will ever view him as anything but another Jimmy Carter.

  93. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:33 pm
    Has Moore conceded yet? Is he still doing his Chris McDaniel impersonation?

    – Two of Steve Bannon’s best and brightest.

    How can Chris McDaniel run against Roger Wicker next year when he hasn’t even conceded his race with Thad Cochran in 2014?

  94. CG says:

    People are entitled their own opinions and I can disagree. I just don’t know what the evidence is that Harrier Miers would have been bad on the Supreme Court. There is absolutely nothing to suggest there was anything at all liberal about her philosophy. Since she had been close to GWB for years and worked for him, he would have been most likely to know that she actually shared his philosophy on issues that might come before the court. The thinking was that he wanted to put someone on the court who came from outside the judiciary as it had been a long time since that had happened (and has not happened since and probably will not anytime soon.) I think Alito was a good choice as well.

  95. CG says:

    Is Moore too drunk to concede? Where is the minute by minute narrative of Election Night already?

  96. Wes says:

    You didn’t state your comment as opinion, Corey. You stated it as fact. It clearly is not even close to fact.

  97. Robbie says:

    Corey

    Senator after Senator who met 1 on 1 with Harriet Miers said the meetings were a disaster. She had no experience in Constitutional law. She was a litigator for a Dallas law firm and rarely if ever appeared in court. After a meeting with Tom Coburn, Miers asked him how he did. Coburn told her she flunked.

  98. CG says:

    It is a fact that it is my opinion. Don’t be obstinate.

  99. Wes says:

    Republican Senators in 2005 refused to back Miers because she came across as a vapid lightweight. There was exactly no reason for GWB to nominate someone the GOP Senators themselves couldn’t make a case for.

  100. CG says:

    I don’t recall anything at all from the time about her having “disastrous meetings” with Senators. The backlash against the nomination was immediate from that morning.

  101. CG says:

    She was the White House Counsel. She was nominated to replace Sandra Day O’Connor who also had come from a political, not a judicial background. Maybe she would have just been a “puppet” for the other conservative Justices theoretically, but I am just saying there is nothing at all to say she was a liberal.

  102. Wes says:

    It’s an opinion of 1 against 350 million, Corey. I can’t imagine anyone would even try agreeing with you without flying into histerical laughter,

  103. CG says:

    Plenty of people believe George W. Bush was a very good President, certainly more than think that of Jimmy Carter. You have to accept that, just as I have to accept your views on GWB fit in very well with the crowd at Daily Kos.

  104. Wes says:

    You mean the same Sandra Day O’Connor who was serving on the ARIZONA COURT OF APPEALS when Reagan appointed her, Corey?

    You could at least fact chdck your statements before podting them.

  105. Wes says:

    What, 10 people think that, Corey? Obama wasn’t able to use GWB as a political football as late as 2012 because the 43rd President was perceived as great.

  106. CG says:

    ok I missed the word “federal”. O’Connor’s primary experience was in politics and as a legislator.

  107. CG says:

    It’s hard for any party to win three straight terms. GWB had low approval numbers when he left office, but these years later, he is certainly a more appreciated figure. You just dislike him immensely from a personal perspective. Everybody here knows that you feel that way and nobody cares.

    My *opinion* is that the passage of time will continue to increase the esteem that GWB is held in.

  108. Wes says:

    Her immediate experience before becoming an Associate Justice on the Supreme Court was as a member of the Arizona Court of Appeals. That was more judicial experience than Harrirt Miers had. O’Connor was also a competent nominee–something Harriet Miers most definitely was not.

  109. Phil says:

    W didn’t help himself by allowing the MSM to kick the crap out of him without even defending himself. I never could understand that one. Afraid of the media to the point of paralysis. What was his joke of a press secretary’s name? Scott McClellen? What a joke.

    When you screw up as much as Bush did, you damn well better push back against criticism or it just gets worse.

    Bush and Trump are both on opposite extreme spectrum. One went into a crouch in the corner and took a beating. The other is over sensitive and spends his twitter time clubbing anyone and everyone that takes a shot at him. Totally unnecessary. Twitter fight with Mika? why? She’s a nobody. Pick fights with Corker and Flake when you need their votes? Why?

  110. Robbie says:

    My goodness, Corey. You and I align on many things, but Harriet Miers was a horrible nominee. Read Jan Crawford’s 2007 book on the nomination fight from O’Conner to Alito. She reported in her book that Miers was a disaster in meetings with Senators.

  111. Wes says:

    In recent polling, Bush and Carter are neck and neck in terms of popularity. That GWB is at the same or roughly the same level of popularity as President Malaise should tell even his fanboys skmething.

  112. CG says:

    People don’t think Clarence Thomas is “component” either because he doesn’t talk in court, etc. That’s just politics. Whatever you want to say about her, she likely would have voted on the cases the exact same way that Alito has (which is to the right of O’Connor.)

    Her nomination was scuttled quickly anyway, so that was the end of it. I just disagree with any assertion that she was a liberal or that GWB was attempting to make the court more liberal.

  113. CG says:

    Even if she was a “disaster” in meetings, doesn’t mean she was a liberal. Alito was surely the better pick in retrospect, but it was not unreasonable that GWB wanted to pick Miers. She was as much of a known quantity to him on policy matters as anyone else who might have been considered.

  114. Robbie says:

    Corey, you waging a losing fight on Miers. She was an awful nominee. She was a GWB friend whom he brought to Washington after he won.

    Clarence Thomas was a member the DC Federal Court of Appeals before he was elevated to the Supreme Court.

    To mention Thomas in the same breath with Harriet Miers is just bonkers.

  115. Wes says:

    Thomas was competent in his Senate hearings. That’s why Anita Hill failed to scuttle his nomination.

  116. Tina says:

    Lee is a yes on tax cuts

    Corker is a yes. He called president trump, who thanked him. According to reports, they had a friendly conversation.

    I never understood their actions towards each other.

  117. CG says:

    I’m just saying what the left says about Thomas. People can think that Miers was not properly qualified, but the notion that she was a liberal, stealth or otherwise, is all that I am disagreeing with.

  118. Wes says:

    Corey is going to declare everything GWB ever did the greatest thing in history regardless of the actual outcome.

  119. Tina says:

    The w fans have hijacked the blog.

  120. CG says:

    This is not a hijacking. You people are free to go at any time.

  121. CG says:

    I’m trying to help Robbie gain some friends and allies, at least on one matter, since he likes it here and has fun.

  122. Tina says:

    Lets see.

    W blew up the middle east.

    Blew up the economy.

    Average 8 yr gdp is 2%. Second lowest, only obama lower. Stat since truman.

    Big spender. Nclb, medicate part d.

    Pro amnesty

  123. Tina says:

    You can go first, thanks.

  124. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    December 15, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    Even if she was a “disaster” in meetings, doesn’t mean she was a liberal. Alito was surely the better pick in retrospect, but it was not unreasonable that GWB wanted to pick Miers. She was as much of a known quantity to him on policy matters as anyone else who might have been considered.

    – The question was not at all whether Miers was a liberal or not. It was whether she was even remotely qualified by today’s standards to serve on the Supreme Court. She clearly was not. She didn’t clerk with a SCOTUS judge, she never argued before SCOTUS, she never worked as a constitutional attorney, and it was clear she never put much thought into the types of issues that would come before the Court.

    Had Miers made it to the confirmation hearings, they would have been a five alarm dumpster fire. She would have been voted down by the committee.

  125. DW says:

    Sometimes a stop sign is found in a place where it should seem obvious one should not continue driving.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2979773,-76.8547693,3a,56.7y,3.88h,84.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4adVgu0e2MfiMS3z8nDSZw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

  126. CG says:

    Whether she was the right person or not, I like the concept of someone being on the Supreme Court who has a background other than the federal judiciary path. I think it would be good to have someone on the Supreme Court who once had to run for and win an election.

  127. CG says:

    That’s the Edward M. Kennedy Memorial Stop Sign.

  128. hugh says:

    Tina. If you want to blame the housing crisis on Bush than do so, but to me that is very unfair and the entire reason for the low average gdp. However, given the size of the downturn the upturn under Obama should have been reagansque, but it was horrible. W with hindsight was not a good president particularly his second term.

  129. NYCmike says:

    Well, that was a first!

    I don’t even think Dubya defended the Miers pick after the first 5 minutes….but here is “CG”, Denny Hastert’s favorite supporter, saying she was not that bad.

    YIKES!

  130. CG says:

    So, Trump can be a “great President” according to some just because he is not Hillary but we have to accept a theory that GWB was a bad President even though he was not John Kerry?

    Who are the judges Kerry would have nominated?

    (Well, one of them might have been Lawrence Tribe, whom Trump himself said during the campaign was “the best legal mind in America.)

  131. NYCmike says:

    Dubya should NOT be blamed for the housing crisis. His administration tried to sound the alarm on the loans thru Fannie and Freddie.

  132. CG says:

    What does Denny Hastert have to do with any of this and how in any way am I a “supporter” of his?

    Seems like an odd statement.

    Have you come to terms NYC, with your position on the issue of Statutory Rape and can you briefly explain it to us?

  133. NYCmike says:

    “(Well, one of them might have been Lawrence Tribe, whom Trump himself said during the campaign was “the best legal mind in America.)”

    -YET, he has not picked him.

    You do understand that these political people tend to yap yap yap a lot?

  134. hugh says:

    129 I disagree. Bush liked to be surrounded by friends and that is all she was. My dad had met her for an interview for a potential federal appeals court appointment and he was very unimpressed. Like many of Bush’s appointees particularly in the second term he sacrificed quality for loyalty.

  135. CG says:

    Yeah, Tribe is too old now. He probably wishes he could have picked his sister or Tribe though.

  136. CG says:

    My theory is that whether Harriet Miers is a brilliant legal mind or not, she would have cast her votes on the Court the exact same way as the other conservative Justices did.

    So, what else should matter beyond that? It doesn’t matter to some anything else about Trump as long as he is prepared to “sign the bills.”

  137. NYCmike says:

    “Have you come to terms NYC, with your position on the issue of Statutory Rape and can you briefly explain it to us?”

    -My position is this:

    When I was 15, in Ms. Carvhalho’s Spanish class, I would have been a willing “victim” of any attention of a physical nature that she would have offered, or responded to of mine.

  138. NYCmike says:

    My other position would have been:

    Top
    Bottom
    Standing
    All of the above!

  139. CG says:

    But now that you are older and presumably far less horny, do you think other 15 years should be protected from predators?

  140. CG says:

    Or was your position, “well if their parents don’t teach them right from wrong, it’s not anyone else’s business?”

  141. CG says:

    By the way post # 143 just easily won Gayest Post of 2017.

    TCGA will be presenting you with your sash and crown shortly.

  142. Tina says:

    Bushs cabinet picks and wh staffers were largely indompeteent gubment officials.

  143. Tina says:

    I am not going to re do the gdp for bush., carter has one of the higher gdp growths, but was an equalky disasteous president as w.

  144. NYCmike says:

    “By the way post # 143 just easily won Gayest Post of 2017.”

    -Gayest?

    You must mean in the dictionary definition of the word, because MISS Carvhalho would have made any 15 year old extremely GAY!

  145. CG says:

    The post below it, if your numbering is off.

  146. Hugh says:

    Many did not think meirs was a conservative. The bush’s We’re all that good with judicial picks.

  147. NYCmike says:

    “But now that you are older and presumably far less horny, ”

    -Not really……..should I be?

  148. CG says:

    Are you willing to answer the question as to whether or not you believe statutory rape laws or age of consent laws are appropriate?

  149. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    December 15, 2017 at 5:07 pm
    My theory is that whether Harriet Miers is a brilliant legal mind or not, she would have cast her votes on the Court the exact same way as the other conservative Justices did.
    So, what else should matter beyond that? It doesn’t matter to some anything else about Trump as long as he is prepared to “sign the bills.”

    – The Supreme Court is not just about voting. It’s about the reasoning behind the votes and there was no indication Miers could have provided substantive reasoning that would pull people to her point of view.

  150. CG says:

    Well, if you oppose Trump for the same reason, at least you can be consistent on that (although I think it’s more important in the Presidency.. she would have had law clerks, etc). The Trump apologists here really have no ground on this matter though as long as Miers voted the way the conservatives wanted.

  151. CG says:

    Perhaps my question for NYC was too complicated, or he is off somewhere remembering his Spanish teacher and trying to conjure up the words he would use to deport 50% of his brothers’ employees..

    Enjoy the weekend.

  152. mnw says:

    So, tax bill. Thank God. I’ve learned new respect for McConnell because of the way he managed this. Job’s troubles were a piece of cake by comparison.

    Wes 109

    CG gives the Kindergarden (sic) Kid (TIPW) real competition for the “thread pig illiterate Lifetime Achievement Award.”

  153. Tina says:

    Allred and bloom, family law crooks.

  154. Tina says:

    Nice end to the week, after the al disaster.

    Lisa bloom proven to be unethical.

    Tax cuts are coming.

    Comedy, mccabe, pete the cheat, unweissman, etc. proven t9 be liars.

    A pardon likely for flynn.

    Gdp forcasted now at 4%. Annual gdp for 2017;may be in the 3s.

    Stock market booming.

  155. Robbie says:

    Nobody sniffs glue and then comments here as well as Tina does.

  156. Tina says:

    Nobody builds a better paper plane than rottie.

  157. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 15, 2017 at 6:45 pm
    Nobody builds a better paper plane than rottie.

    – Bless your heart. How was shock therapy today?

  158. Tina says:

    Looks like mulehead is winding down, per cnn.

  159. NYCmike says:

    “Nobody sniffs glue and then comments here as well as Tina does.”

    -Robbie,

    With all due respect, and after all of your hyperventilating about this MSM report and that MSM report, please tell us where Tina is so far off.

    a) “Nice end to the week, after the al disaster.” – you disagree that Alabama was a disaster?

    b) “Lisa bloom proven to be unethical.” – not proven yet, but is this THAT BIG of a stretch?

    c) “Tax cuts are coming.” – still work to be done. Are YOU actively rooting against this success for Trump and Congress?

    d) “Comedy, mccabe, pete the cheat, unweissman, etc. proven t9 be liars.” – there is PLENTY of proof to back up this statement. Do YOU disagree?

    e) “A pardon likely for flynn.” – Is this so far-fetched?

    f) “Gdp forcasted now at 4%. Annual gdp for 2017;may be in the 3s.” – YOU disagree with this statement?

    g) “Stock market booming.” – it sure is heading in the right direction (although, that is NO GUARANTY of future performance)

  160. lisab says:

    He said that at one point, all agents had to have law degrees. I never felt like looking it up. I doubt that is true now.
    ————————————

    for a long time fbi agents were mostly accountants
    up to half

    they now have several entry ways, accountants, lawyers, IT people, general college degrees and of course never trumpers who are willing to trample on everyone’s civil rights to ensure their candidate wins

    you have to be one of the five

  161. Tina says:

    There are three outcomes for flynn.

    Judge gives no jail time and he pays a fine. Says his service to a country is greater than the lie.

    Judge questions the wiretap used by sjw yates, et. Al. Tells that the gubment over reached and tosses

    Sentenced and then pardoned, as trump alluded to.

  162. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/rush-limbaugh-doj-inspector-generals-dynamite-report-set-blow-mueller-probe-smithereens/

    Rush is right here. The ig matter is now more imoortant than mulehead. Muleheads is dead since no collision.

  163. lisab says:

    “now we live in a country were people simply disregard any news that doesn’t fit with their preconceived notion.” robbie
    —————————————

    his lack of self-awareness is not measurable by current technology

  164. NYCmike says:

    Somewhere over the heartland, a plane is on autopilot……and the pilot goes thru his exercises……

    “Line 1: That is Gateway Pundit, they got a story wrong.

    Line 2: They can NEVER be trusted again.

    Line 3: We only trust WAPO, NY TIMES, CNN and MSNBC.

    (repeat Line 3 20 more times over the next 5 minutes, then begin exercise again from Line 1.)

  165. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    20. “Oh, and was Trump’s disastrous, boneheaded, idiotic first year as president worth losing the Alabama Senate seat?”

    Absolutely yes. Excellent court appointments, creating a good business climate, growing economy, removing a lot of useless regulations, can go on and on.

    Do not believe Moore could have won regardless of who was president, so do not believe Trump “lost” the seat.

    Assume Robbie your political predictions for 2018 will be as accurate as those you made in 2016.

    I did not vote for Trump, do not know if I will in the future; but he has done a lot of good things as president.

  166. Tina says:

    The paper plane chrasher is mad. Everything i cited is 100 percent accurate.

    Ny fed increased the 4th quarter to 4 percent. If he gets 4percent for q 4, annual gdp will be 3. The highest in 10 plus years.

    A pardon of flynn is likely. After all, the president has that authority in the constitution.

    Ig report is a hot potato and it suggests a weaponization by the fbi, hatch act violations, and obatruction by gubment officials.

  167. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Trump pushing signalling hard through his Fake News surrogates that he will fire Mueller and “rebuild the FBI.”

    As soon as Mueller gets fired, Trump will be basically admitting guilt.

    Bring it on. I look forward to taking back our country from you chickenhawks.

  168. Tina says:

    Mukehead is wrapping up, cnn just reported.

    He has not asked for an unterview with the president or veep.

    The white hats have taken control.

    As soon as the tax cuts are passed, the big ugly commences.

    Tick tock drats.

  169. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    129. Robbie: “– The question was not at all whether Miers was a liberal or not. It was whether she was even remotely qualified by today’s standards to serve on the Supreme Court. She clearly was not. She didn’t clerk with a SCOTUS judge, she never argued before SCOTUS, she never worked as a constitutional attorney, and it was clear she never put much thought into the types of issues that would come before the Court.”

    On every thread I usually agree with Robbie at least once. Agree with his comments on Miers.

  170. lisab says:

    Looks like mulehead is winding down, per cnn.
    ————————————–

    well the new leaks are hurting the dems

  171. lisab says:

    Do not believe Moore could have won regardless of who was president, so do not believe Trump “lost” the seat.
    ——————–

    ummmmmm … trump endorsed strange

  172. lisab says:

    Ny fed increased the 4th quarter to 4 percent.
    ———————–

    wow, good news

  173. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    177.”ummmmmm … trump endorsed strange.”

    Yes, and Alabama Republicans picked a total loser of a candidate instead, and lost. There is the blame. Would also blame Bannon.

  174. Tina says:

    The new character in the fbi disaster

    Bill Priestap.

  175. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Extremely disturbing. The FBI investigation is fast losing credibility.

    “Two FBI officials who worked on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation exchanged text messages last year in which they appear to have discussed ways to prevent Donald Trump from being elected president.

    “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok wrote in a cryptic text message to Lisa Page, an FBI lawyer and his mistress.”

    “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40,” Strzok wrote in the text, dated Aug. 15, 2016.

    Andy is likely Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe.”

  176. Cash Cow TM says:

    On TV last night (actually today about 1 or 2 a.m.) there was a PBS show about the aerodynamics of various animals–certain cats, kangaroos, flying fish, flying squirrels, ducks, vultures, and even a snake that leaps out of trees and ‘flies’ (glides) from one tall tree FOR HUNDREDS OF FEET into other trees. It was very interesting, but the the thing about that snake creeped me out.

    I had trouble getting to sleep after that.

  177. Tina says:

    McCabe: “First we F*** Flynn, then we f*** Trump!”

  178. Cash Cow TM says:

    Several truths:

    1. In primaries in various states, the rabid D voters and the rabid R voters often pick who they see is their best purist and ideological ‘warrior’ rather that who will have the best shot at winning the general.

    The left/Ds eventually paid the price for this behavior. The rabid right Rs have been paying the price for this behavior for the last several election cycles in various states.

    2. The Ds are more likely to push for something but finally agree to only get half (or some) of what they want for now; but today’s right wing fringe folks are purists who feel if they can not immediately get 100% of what they are after they are willing to blow everything up and get zilch of what they want now–and 100% of what they do not want in the future.

    Another way of saying it is, for much of my life the left/Ds have been pragmatic, but more recently the radical right “R’s” are rabid ideogogues unwilling to give an inch even if means their own grandma dies.

    3. GWB will NEVER be considered one of the best presidents ever. DJT will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER be considered the best president ever.

    Whoever actually, truly believes either GWB or DJT will go down in history as the best/one of the best presidents ever needs to be knocked up side the head with a 2 X 4 to get them out of their dream world.

  179. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder who Walt thinks was the best leader in his lifetime – humans only. Dinosaurs do not count.

  180. Walt says:

    Og the Caveman ranks up there pretty high…

    He taught us how to grab a tiger by the tail, how NOT to taunt a tyrannosaurus, how to make woolly mammoth jerky…lots of things.

  181. mnw says:

    During the last 2 days, the usual trolls— Robbie? CG? TIPW?— were all over HHR, posting multiple times:

    “Rubio is a No! It’s ovah, losahs!”

    and

    “Flake is a No! It’s dead! GOP will lose 100 seats! Maybe more now!”

    Well, guess what, troll? Eat zh*t and die.

  182. Cash Cow TM says:

    Clumping kitty litter will be ranked as the world’s number one invention ever before DJT is ranked as best president ever.

  183. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – I am handling a civil case for a friend. She is a pet sitter. She watched a dog. It died suddenly. No cause of death. The plaintiff is a veterinarian. I think that I can win this one. A dog dying does not prove negligence in and of itself. I may cite the Mr. Bojangles Defense – “Your Honor, the dog up and died. The dog up and died.”

  184. mnw says:

    BL

    I like it. The judge might too. I have a buddy who once filed a response to a motion with a rhyming poem. The judge wrote his order in rhyme as well.

  185. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    189. As a veterinarian, does the plaintiff claim some sort special knowledge of how the dog died?

  186. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Still remember what Penn. Judge Musmanno said about the book the Tropic of Cancer being pornographic:

    “”Cancer” is not a book. It is a cesspool, an open sewer, a pit of putrefaction, a slimy gathering of all that is rotten in the debris of human depravity. And in the center of all this waste and stench, besmearing himself with its foulest defilement, splashes, leaps, cavorts and wallows a bifurcated specimen that responds to the name of Henry Miller. One wonders how the human species could have produced so lecherous, disgusting and amoral a human being as Henry Miller. One wonders why he is received in polite society”

  187. Bitterlaw says:

    The vet had an autopsy performed on the dog. I have asked for a copy but this is a low level Court (like Judge Judy) so she does not have to give it to me before the trial. I subpoenaed the police file but I won’t get it and the report until a few minutes before trial. The good news is that unless she brings the other vet to testify live, the report won.t be heard.

    The trial of the century is for $3,600. Most of that is for the autopsy and burial.

  188. Tgca says:

    189

    I did not know you knew Michael Vick.

  189. Bitterlaw says:

    My client did nothing wrong. The dog just died.

  190. mnw says:

    After full many a summer dies the swan.

  191. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    From the Daily Caller’s top investigative journalist this morning:

    “Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.Luke Rosiak”

  192. NYCmike says:

    Tick Tock

  193. NYCmike says:

    Double C! Duplicate comment!

    HAL must be over checking out the tick tock clock at Conservative Treehouse.

  194. Tgca says:

    196

    My client didn’t nothing wrong = my client is innocent

    Is that a legal defense? 🙂

  195. Tina says:

    My client did nothing wrong.

    The dog just died.

    Bl, i love the peoples court. I am all ears….

  196. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    Robbie said you were all feet and mouth….or was it foot in mouth?

  197. dblaikie says:

    In reading the news I am concerned with the banning of words that the CDC can use. Not using the words “evidence based” and “scientific based” is simply wrong and stupid. This is just the kind of thing that Millennials hate Trump for and at some point the administration better wake up.

  198. Tina says:

    I cannot help folks believing in russian collusion, nyc.

    All items mentioned either have happened or may be happening.

    Gdp forecast was revised to 4 percent by the ny fed yesterday. If gdp is 4 percent, then annual gdp for 2017 will be over 3 percent. It was 1.5 in 2016.

    It is likely that flynn will be pardoned.

    Tax cuts appear imminent. They are voting on tuesday.

    Regulations have been cut by a 22 to 1 margin.

    Al still is a disastwr, however, but the week ended better than it began.

  199. mnw says:

    Read the St. Louis Post-Disgrace today. Stuck in a waiting room. Nothing else to read. I stopped reading that disappearing leftist rag decades back.

    If hatred were manufactured on an assembly line, my factory would be running triple shifts.

  200. Phil says:

    Fortunately, mnw, the circulation of those rags is in the toilet.

  201. Wes says:

    Hey, Mnw, I saw you’d posted and wanted to say while I know you and I had some rather significant clashes in the past, I now regard you as an invaluable poster on here and am glad you came back.

  202. Wes says:

    This is the guy Steve Bannon wanted to be Senator.

    You lost, Roy. You were always a weak candidate. You were always going to underperform. We just didn’t know how badly till the allegations.

    It is a karmic occurrence an unrepentant lawbreaker lost his bid to be responsible for making laws.

    I hope the GOP learns from this mistake next year.

  203. mnw says:

    Thx, Wes.

    I am prone to alcohol-fueled rage. I’m controlling it better now. I think your historical analysis is one of the reasons people visit here.

  204. Cash Cow TM says:

    The dog up and died

    adding the due pod
    head toed pudding
    headed to pudding
    doe death pudding

  205. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    MNW the resident racist opens his stupid mouth yet again. Probably some working-class stiff who prances online pretending to be a lawyer.

    SAD.

    Pretty obvious Trump wants to fire Mueller and fire all the FBI chiefs as well.

    Bring it on. The Senate will simply rehire Mueller and Trump’s base of support is already eroding. He never went below 40 before and is hitting 35 and lower now.

    DRIP DRIP DRIP Traitor.

  206. mnw says:

    The Kindergarden (sic) Kid shows contempt for “working class stiffs.” This is one of the first posts I’ve seen from him that isn’t full of actual writing errors of various sorts.

    But my God! Does he swing a mean cliche! “SAD”. Such a clever circumlocution! What a wit!

    The guys at Powerline have long said that the Minneapolis Red Star (Star Tribune) is the worst paper in the U.S. I think the St. Louis rag is as bad if not worse.

  207. Tina says:

    Mulehead is not being fired. He is wrapping up, as suggested yesterday by cnn.

    Moreover, the ig report has knocked out mueller.

  208. Marco Rubio says:

    Hi guyth, I will thupport thocial thecurity reform next. Thank you for your thupport!

  209. Trump says:

    “The Senate will simply rehire Mueller”

    Why would the Senate rehire Mueller? They already have janitorial service.

  210. Trump says:

    And “who are all the FBI chiefs?”

  211. Marco Rubio says:

    I will uphold the contthitution. Thank you for your thupport!

  212. mnw says:

    Trump 219

    I think our Kindergarden (sic) troll-y is implying that the Senate will rehire Mueller AFTER the DEMs retake the Senate,

    I pride myself on being able to translate illiterate trollspeak into standard English.

  213. Trump says:

    222.

    To do what?

    There is no “special prosecutor” law anymore. It expired in 1999, and was always constitutionally suspect.

    Congress can no longer appoint a special prosecutor. The current “special prosecutor” is just an administrative process under the DoJ.

  214. lisab says:

    “is implying that the Senate will rehire Mueller AFTER the DEMs retake the Senate”

    the never trumpers don’t care about democracy, only getting trump

    the same way the dems only cared about keeping bill clinton, they did not care about sexual assault or lying under oath back then

    anything to keep the welfare checks rolling in to their gender studies classes

  215. Trump says:

    “Since the expiration of the independent counsel statute in 1999, there has been no federal law governing the appointment of a special prosecutor. Upon the law’s expiration in 1999, the Justice Department, under Attorney General Janet Reno, promulgated procedural regulations governing the appointment of special counsels.”

    There is no federal law regarding special prosecutors anymore, so Senate or House can only launch their own investigations, without any prosecutorial authority.

    So yes, Senate could hire Mueller to wank its collective dic*, for sure.

  216. Trump says:

    Not that third-rate morons like the Dem trolls here and the cretin Robbie understand any law.

  217. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    How’s Senator Roy Moore doing for you MNW? You racist, pedophile-enabling fat f*ck. You can mail me your answer on the bar towel you call a law degree mr. “lawyer.

    lol, you stupid fat redneck hick. You and your kind had your chance with Trump to do something meaningful and failed miserably.

    Your down to cheering for a crappy tax bill where 90% of the benefits go to the super-rich.

    Dumb*ss is too kind a word to describe you.

  218. lisab says:

    Florida Rep. Alcee Hastings, whose alleged sexual harassment of a staffer resulted in a $220,000 taxpayer-funded settlement in 2014

  219. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    194. “The trial of the century is for $3,600. Most of that is for the autopsy and burial.”

    They buried the dog? People used to joke about crazy California having pet cemeteries. In his museum in Victorville, California, Roy Rogers used to have his stuffed dog and stuffed horse Trigger on display.

    In California the Small Claims Courts do not allow attorneys to represent clients. They allow that in Pennsylvania?

  220. Tina says:

    The senate will re hire….

    The senate did not hire mullhead.

    So,mthe senate cannot rehire somebody they never hired.

  221. Diamond Jim says:

    Thread’s dead, baby. Thread’s dead.

  222. lisab says:

    Will Smith: ‘Darkness’ of Trump Era a Reaction to ‘Light’-Filled Obama Years

  223. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 15, 2017 at 7:22 pm
    “Nobody sniffs glue and then comments here as well as Tina does.”
    -Robbie,
    With all due respect, and after all of your hyperventilating about this MSM report and that MSM report, please tell us where Tina is so far off.

    – You’ve become such a clown. Of course, that’s what happens when you sell your soul to Trump and Trumpism.

  224. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 15, 2017 at 7:53 pm
    https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/12/fbi-foia-investigation/
    -Robbie will NOT read this article.

    – You’re right. I won’t read it.

  225. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    December 15, 2017 at 8:05 pm
    20. “Oh, and was Trump’s disastrous, boneheaded, idiotic first year as president worth losing the Alabama Senate seat?”
    Absolutely yes. Excellent court appointments, creating a good business climate, growing economy, removing a lot of useless regulations, can go on and on.
    Do not believe Moore could have won regardless of who was president, so do not believe Trump “lost” the seat.
    Assume Robbie your political predictions for 2018 will be as accurate as those you made in 2016.
    I did not vote for Trump, do not know if I will in the future; but he has done a lot of good things as president.

    – Trump has an approval rating of 37.2% in the RCP average today. The public has made it clear what it thinks about Trump’s first year as president and it’s not good. But by all means, pretend that Trump’s first year hasn’t been a disaster. If you think 37.2% isn’t a disaster, I’d hate to see how low his approval rating would have to go before you declared the year to be a disaster.

    As for my predictions in 2016, I was wrong just like you were. That said, I was very much correct in 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014. I’ll take that batting average any day over the consensus in this forum which said the Bradley effect and the delbov curve all indicated McCain would beat Obama. I’ll also take my batting average over the crowd that used poll truthing to say Romney was going to beat Obama in 2012.

  226. Tina says:

    Mulehead with the 4th amendment violation, if true.

  227. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 15, 2017 at 8:06 pm
    The paper plane chrasher is mad. Everything i cited is 100 percent accurate.
    Ny fed increased the 4th quarter to 4 percent. If he gets 4percent for q 4, annual gdp will be 3. The highest in 10 plus years.
    A pardon of flynn is likely. After all, the president has that authority in the constitution.
    Ig report is a hot potato and it suggests a weaponization by the fbi, hatch act violations, and obatruction by gubment officials.

    – You haven’t been right yet, Tinfoil. You said there would never be a special counsel. Wrong. You said there would be no indictments. Wrong. You said there was no way Mike Flynn would cut a deal. Wrong.

  228. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    December 15, 2017 at 8:45 pm
    Extremely disturbing. The FBI investigation is fast losing credibility.

    – Translation: The FBI investigation has gotten too close to Trump therefore the FBI as a whole must be discredited and slandered in order to preserve Supreme Leader Trump’s gong show presidency.

  229. Tina says:

    Mulehead and Unweissman do have q history of obtaining information illegally and then losing in court.

    See anthrax arrest from the early 2000s as an example.

    And then we have phuq trump, phuq flynn courtesty of mccabe.

    And then we have the insurance policy..

    Then the IG.

    Pass the popcorn.

  230. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    December 15, 2017 at 9:58 pm
    During the last 2 days, the usual trolls— Robbie? CG? TIPW?— were all over HHR, posting multiple times:
    “Rubio is a No! It’s ovah, losahs!”
    and
    “Flake is a No! It’s dead! GOP will lose 100 seats! Maybe more now!”
    Well, guess what, troll? Eat zh*t and die.

    – Liar. You’re the one who needs to eat sh!t, Trumper. I never said the tax bill was dead. To the contrary, Trumper, I said Rubio was just posturing and would vote for the bill. Also, I never said Flake was a no. In fact, I was the one who challenged the claim Flake was a no because there was no evidence he was a no. Do better research.

  231. Tina says:

    Paper plane crasher, i wanted the sc. i said it will tie up congress and minimize the leaking from your boy, schiff for brains.

    I also said no collusion.

    You are mad now that mulehead phuqed up his investigation by illegally obtaining executive materials and having obama weaponizing the fbi.

    Bucke up flyboy.

  232. Tina says:

    Notice how the drats are attacking the IG.

  233. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 1:18 pm
    Mulehead is not being fired. He is wrapping up, as suggested yesterday by cnn.
    Moreover, the ig report has knocked out mueller.

    – You also believed Ty Cobb’s claim the investigation would be wrapped up by Thanksgiving. Wrong again.

  234. Tina says:

    f STRZOK was sending those kind of txs to MCCABE about Trump what was MCCABE sending to COMEY and what was COMEY sending to Lynch

    Untangle this web…

  235. Tina says:

    You believed in collusion and obstruction. Where is it beotch?

  236. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Which items that Tina mentioned are so outlandish?

    Why do you just deflect instead of answering the question? Why are so scared of agreeing with her?

  237. Tina says:

    The jebots are desperate that mulehead ko d himself or got ko d by the ig.

    Brilliantly played.

    Mulehead ran out of *as.

  238. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 7:53 pm
    Mulehead with the 4th amendment violation, if true.

    – Bless your heart. Just because Trump’s 770 Club lawyer says something doesn’t mean it’s true.

    Mueller filed a request with the GAO. The GAO complied with it.

    Trump’s sad sack lawyers are raising a stink because they got outmaneuvered.

  239. Tina says:

    Rottie has no answers. Only drat and muh russian talking points

  240. Tina says:

    Untrue, the gao cannot release that.

    Nice try,

  241. Tina says:

    And its gsa, not gao, dumb sheot.

  242. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    You are mad now that mulehead phuqed up his investigation by illegally obtaining executive materials and having obama weaponizing the fbi.
    Bucke up flyboy.

    – LOL! Mueller outmaneuvered Trump’s sad sack legal team so they just tossed out “4th amendment” in hopes of persuading their useful idiot followers.

  243. Tina says:

    Gsa and gao are different agencies.

    Its a 4th amendment violation

    If the information was illegalky obtained, it is now useless.

  244. Tina says:

    He illegally obtained the information, so its a violation and more imoortantly. Its just drip, drip, drip.

    Insurance policy

    Phuq flynn, phuq trump

  245. Tina says:

    The jebot clearly does not even jnow what agency he is talking about.

  246. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:04 pm
    Robbie,
    Which items that Tina mentioned are so outlandish?
    Why do you just deflect instead of answering the question? Why are so scared of agreeing with her?

    – Tina said there would be no special prosecutor. Wrong. Tina said there would be no indictments. Wrong. Tina said Mike Flynn was not looking to cut a deal. Wrong. Tina said no emails existed between Don Jr. and Russians hoping to set up a meeting to collect dirt on Hillary. Wrong. For goodness sake, Tina said there were no emails 10 minutes before Don Jr. released the emails himself back in July.

  247. Tina says:

    They are protected records, but jebot does not know that, nor the agency in question.

  248. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:08 pm
    Gsa and gao are different agencies.
    Its a 4th amendment violation
    If the information was illegalky obtained, it is now useless.

    – Tinfoil has suddenly become an expert on the 4th Amendment. What a time to be a live.

  249. Tina says:

    Nope, i said the ny times had no emails. Proven true since don jr released them.

    Where is the collusion? Where is the obstruction?

  250. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:12 pm
    They are protected records, but jebot does not know that, nor the agency in question.

    – Thank goodness Tinfoil is a Constitutional expert and can set us all straight.

  251. Tina says:

    Jebot, you cited the gao as the agency in question. Wrong.

  252. Bitterlaw says:

    Rather than read HHR, I spent the afternoon helping my daughter’s HS softball team sort and organize presents for 400 underprivileged children. It was great to see these girls working hard to help others. This generation gets a bad rap. They are not perfect but, when we are honest, neither were we.

    The director of the facility told the stories of some of the children and what it means to them to get gifts. One child had suffered 18 broken bones from abuse. I would love to know the whereabouts of the scum that did it. I would take batting practice on 18 of his bones.

  253. Tina says:

    Executive privilege is the power of the President of the United States and other members of the executive branch of the United States Government to resist certain subpoenas and other interventions by the legislative and judicial branches of government in pursuit of information or personnel relating to the executive.

    Notice personnel is in that definition, jebot.

    Good luck.

  254. Tina says:

    It is not in his power to ontain that information absent going to court and seeking it.

    That is the 4th amendment violation. He ceased it without going to court for it.

  255. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:13 pm
    Nope, i said the ny times had no emails. Proven true since don jr released them.
    Where is the collusion? Where is the obstruction?

    – The lengths to which you will go to lie is really something. You said no emails existed and said so not 10 minutes before Don Jr. released the emails.

    And how did the NYT get the emails? They got them from Jared Kushner’s legal team which found them is a search for documents requested by Mueller’s team a few weeks earlier.

    As for you question about collusion, it certainly seems to me Don Jr. was attempting to collude with Russians who claimed to be speaking for Putin and offered dirt on Hillary.

    As for your question about obstruction, Trump asked Comey to end his investigation into Flynn. When Flynn didn’t end the investigation into Flynn or into his campaign, Trump fired Comey because of it.

    And how do we know Trump fired Comey over the Russia investigation? Trump stupidly told Lester Holt in an interview he fired Comey over the Russian investigation. We also know Trump told the Russian foreign minister and ambassador he fired Comey to get the Russia pressure off of him.

  256. Tina says:

    Jebit says

    Bless your hear, muh russian, muh ibstruction, gao.

  257. Tina says:

    They never had the emails. Donnie released them .

  258. Tina says:

    He did not fire comedy over flynn,

  259. Tina says:

    So, don jr is guikty of collusion, but the dossier is just campaign tactics.

    I get it

  260. Tina says:

    The jebot is so confused.

    He has trump firing comedy iver russia.

    Don jr guilty of obstruction, while at the same time overlooking the dossier.

    Lol, too much mslsd.

  261. Robbie says:

    Kyle Cheney?
    @kyledcheney

    WILLIAM JEFFRESS, who defended Scooter Libby, tells me the Trump transition hasn’t made a case that any *actually* privileged documents were turned over.

    “I seriously doubt there is anything here to taint the [Mueller] investigation.”

  262. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:20 pm
    They never had the emails. Donnie released them .

    – Yes they did, sweetheart.

  263. Tina says:

    Muh gao.

  264. lisab says:

    “If the information was illegalky obtained, it is now useless.”

    everything that came from it too

    fruit of the poisonous tree

    if true mueller is the one who got outmanuvered

    he may have caused everything to be inadmissable as evidence

  265. Tina says:

    Personnel records are priveileged.

    Btw, great job that attorney did for scootah.

  266. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:21 pm
    So, don jr is guikty of collusion, but the dossier is just campaign tactics.
    I get it

    – I’m not convinced Don Jr. is guilty of anything, but I am certain the dossier on Trump was nothing more than opposition research and I guarantee you nothing will come from the Trumpers claiming it was illegal just as the effort to deflect from Mueller’s investigation over Uranium One fizzled out.

  267. Hugh says:

    I’m guessing he has no idea what kind of document were turned over so he has no idea if the trump team has something or not. I’m betting the trump
    Team is not conferring with him

  268. lisab says:

    One child had suffered 18 broken bones from abuse.
    ————————————

    i worked with a teen that was locked in a closet until she was 9

  269. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:29 pm
    Personnel records are priveileged.
    Btw, great job that attorney did for scootah.

    – But Trump’s 700 Club lawyers is totes the best.

  270. Tina says:

    A seasoned pro like mueller knows too.

    Courts have been consistent not to interfere with exec branch on personnel.

  271. Tina says:

    This has been a bad week for mulehead.

    Drip drip drip.

    And a phuq up of yuge proportions.

    It is giving the appearance that he has lost control with all the drat renegades.

  272. Tina says:

    Lisab and others, one more thing

    Look at the date when this occured, august of 2017.

    Pete the cheat and the mistress were kicked off team mueller around the same time.

    Coincidental or not?

  273. Robbie says:

    If you need more evidence Mueller has run rings around Trump’s sad sack lawyers, look no further than the new story about the transition emails. Mueller has had them since the early Summer and Trump’s team may have only learned about it this past week. And if you want to know how good Trump’s legal team thinks the 4th Amendment claim is, just look at who is making the case. It’s not one of Trump’s lawyers. It some guy who represented Trump’s transition team.

  274. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:31 pm
    A seasoned pro like mueller knows too.
    Courts have been consistent not to interfere with exec branch on personnel.

    – Courts allowed Mueller to pierce the attorney/client privilege between Manfort and his lawyer. They’re almost certainly not going to have any problems with Mueller obtaining emails from a government agency. This is just another attempt by Trump’s minions to cast doubt on Mueller as he gets closer and closer to Trump and his inner circle. Why else is Jared Kushner shopping around for a crisis PR firm?

  275. Tina says:

    Drip, drip drip…

  276. Robbie says:

    Tina now furiously consulting with Gateway Pundit to figure out how to answer this.

    Max Boot?
    @MaxBoot

    So the official Trump transition emails, sent on government servers, should remain private but the texts of FBI agents and the emails of Hillary are properly public? Got it. Consistency is not the hobgoblin of this White House.

  277. Tina says:

    Muh gao,

    Drip, drip, drip..

  278. Tina says:

    Max boot needs to read the ig letter dor the answer to his stupid question.

    Boot must be in league with lord arse hat.

  279. lisab says:

    mueller would almost certainly have been given permission to get almost all of the transition emails.

    but he has to get permission.

    personal government documents are secret by default. you cannot just give them out.

  280. lisab says:

    sorry, not “secret” as in classified

    but confidential, as in nothing with pii can be released without permission

  281. lisab says:

    although some emails that were from the trump team could be also classified

  282. Robbie says:

    If Trump’s sad sack lawyers really thought there was a 4th amendment violation, they would have gone straight to court this past week. Instead, they wrote a letter to Congress.

    Filing suit in court means they believe there is a real legal issue that needs to be addressed. Sending a letter to Congress means they just want to scream and create a smokescreen that fires up their supporters. Considering they got badly outmaneuvered, creating a diversion is probably smart.

    Unless or until Trump’s team files a lawsuit in court, they don’t really believe anything illegal happened.

  283. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    December 16, 2017 at 8:58 pm
    mueller would almost certainly have been given permission to get almost all of the transition emails.
    but he has to get permission.
    personal government documents are secret by default. you cannot just give them out.

    – The emails were on a government server located in government offices. Mueller’s teams asked for the emails and received them. It’s not as if they got them off a private server.

    This is just a smoke screen by the Trump team because they were outmaneuvered by Mueller.

  284. Tina says:

    This is an issue and muelhead was caught, we need to know which person did this, pete the cheat?

  285. Chicon says:

    Man, some nasty personal attacks on here tonight. Not becoming. A lot like MD at the end.

    Bitter, good on your daughter and friends for pitching in. Great lesson, imo.

  286. Robbie says:

    Renato Mariotti?
    @renato_mariotti

    18/ Note also that the lawyers *don’t* say that the emails are privileged. They merely claim that some of the emails are “susceptible to privilege claims.” That’s weak language that suggests they’re not confident they have a strong claim that some of the emails are privileged.

  287. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 9:07 pm
    This is an issue and muelhead was caught, we need to know which person did this, pete the cheat?

    – Still going with the view that, if you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe I see.

  288. Robbie says:

    Renato Mariotti?
    @renato_mariotti

    19/ The biggest conclusion I’d draw from their letter is that they’re concerned about Mueller’s investigation and are doing whatever they can to discredit it. Their claims themselves are weak and are meant to persuade people who know nothing about criminal investigations. /end

  289. lisab says:

    Why Anakin Skywalker should’ve been removed from the Jedi Order for sexual harassment

    usa today

  290. Robbie says:

    Natasha Bertrand?
    @NatashaBertrand

    Interesting point here by a former federal prosecutor: Mueller, as a government authority requesting emails sent on a gov server, may not even have needed a subpoena to obtain the emails because a basic administrative request may have sufficed

  291. Tina says:

    Notice how alarmed jebot is and is usi g drats as sources.

  292. Robbie says:

    You mean people associated with Trump might not have been accurate with their claims? I’m going to need a fainting couch.

    Katherine Miller?
    @katherinemiller

    In an (on-the-record) interview with @chrisgeidner, a senior lawyer with the GSA (the agency involved) disputed assertions made by the Trump campaign

  293. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    December 16, 2017 at 9:12 pm
    Notice how alarmed jebot is and is usi g drats as sources.

    – I’m not alarmed. You’re the one who is spreading lies and innuendo to defend your guy Donnie. I’m simply countering your misinformation as I have tried to do for the better part of two years.

  294. Chicon says:

    Oh, c’mon, Robbie, Trump’s not that bad, is he? I mean, we survived 8 years of BHO…

  295. Tina says:

    Nope, he got caught and you know its exec privilefge subject to a review by a court. He illegally obtained the i formation, at least one of his degenerates.

  296. News You Can Use says:

    Trump lawyers claim Mueller obtained privileged email through GSA. If so, it would be a uniquely stupid mistake that could taint the SC investigation. https://t.co/q9sehKuCGb

    — Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) December 16, 2017

  297. lisab says:

    Mueller, as a government authority requesting emails sent on a gov server, may not even have needed a subpoena to obtain the emails because a basic administrative request may have sufficed
    —————————————–

    that is unlikely

    as a government employee we are taught to never release anything to other government employees without proper permission or court order

    somebody would need to authorize the release and would need some written authority to do so

  298. Tina says:

    The white hat in the ig office is just blowing away mulehead.

    Thank goodness.

  299. lisab says:

    there is one great thing about working for the government

    everything and i mean everything regarding who is in charge of what is written down.

    somewhere there is a rule or regulation that specifies who needed to release the records

  300. Chicon says:

    306 – everyone knows that Turley is a Trump Chump who knows nothing about the Constitution or the law.

  301. Tina says:

    And there is nothing that mulehead or boot can do about the ig, who answered why he has the authority to release the information.

    Mulehead is damaged goods and the jebots know it. Theynwant this charade to continue to the midterms.

  302. Tina says:

    This part is especially funny

    Langhofer wrote that some of the records obtained by the special counsel’s office from the GSA “have been leaked to the press by unknown persons.”

  303. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Money For Nothing” by Dire Straits is one of the best rock and roll song ever.

    Discuss.

  304. lisab says:

    i imagine they will blame the leak on some poor low level hack

    who will be fired

    and possibly be prosecuted

  305. lisab says:

    “Money For Nothing” by Dire Straits is one of the best rock and roll song ever.
    ———————–

    it has a gay slur in it

  306. Tgca says:

    313 Scratch that.

    ABORTION. Discuss.

  307. Tina says:

    I am sure we will know which investigator illegallly obtained it and why he or she is not on team mulehead.

  308. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Ain’t Too Proud To Beg” is way up there too on the best rock chart, IMO

  309. Cash Cow TM says:

    The newer version I just watched by Eric Clapton and Phil Collins says:
    “that little maggot is a millionaire…”

    They gay slur is no longer there.
    __________________________________
    “That’s the way to do it…”

  310. Cash Cow TM says:

    What about the words in Purple Haze that said:

    “pardon me while I kiss this guy”?

  311. Tina says:

    The pa drunk, tingles matthews, sex harassment claims paid by nbc,

    Add tingles to the list.

  312. Cash Cow TM says:

    The music in “Money for Nothing” is just super.
    When you hear it, you gotta be jiving your feet and swaying your body.
    The words….kinda goofy.

    But as someone said,

    ‘the heart of rock and roll is the beat’.

  313. Bitterlaw says:

    My top 2 rock songs are:

    1. Born to Run – Bruce Springsteen

    2. Smells like teen spirit – Nirvana

  314. Tina says:

    Mslsd is ground zero for sex harassment issues most of the. scarfarce Program.

  315. Cash Cow TM says:

    I like “Candle in the Wind” very much.

    I heard a song just today (“The Christmas Shoes”) that made tears stream down my cheek–but it was not rock and roll.

    It really grabs you.

  316. Tina says:

    NBC confirmed to @DailyCaller that an assistant producer on Chris Matthews’ show made a sexual harassment claim against him in 1999. The woman received a severance payment when she left the network.

  317. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter Retweeted
    Kurt Schlichter
    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    58m
    Today’s mini-furor by liberals is just them working themselves up to the edge of an impeachmentgasm, to be followed by the inevitable disappointment.

    Again.

  318. Tina says:

    dillo Retweeted
    Kurt Schlichter
    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    1h
    So, I’m kind of wondering…

    These transition team emails that liberals think are the smoking gun that will sink Trump…

    Leave aside the fact that Trump doesn’t use emails personally…

    How are transition team emails, by definition post-election, going to show collusion?

    But, but, but…. muh obstruction.

  319. Cash Cow TM says:

    WE ARE ALL DOOMED!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    DRUDGE

    Sex between monkeys and deer may be ‘new behavioral tradition’…

    IF THE MONKEYS AND DEER MATE, IT IS ALL OVER!!!

  320. Cash Cow TM says:

    the word

    “subpoena”

    when I hear it, it always sounds dirty somehow.

    But when it is written, it is a little different.

  321. Paul says:

    “the White House is planning a full-throttle campaign to plunge the president into the midterm elections, according to senior officials and advisers familiar with the planning.”

  322. Tina says:

    Ryan Saavedra ??
    Ryan Saavedra ??
    @RealSaavedra
    Adam Schiff: “FBI was heavily predisposed against Hillary and in favor of Trump”

    FBI Texts:

    “Trump is a f**king idiot”
    “He’s awful”
    “Trump is a loathsome human”
    “Hillary should win 100,000,000-0”
    FBI needs “insurance policy” in case Trump wins
    “f***ing terrifying” if Trump wins

    Was this a jebot conversation?

  323. Cash Cow TM says:

    MY GOD, THEY EVEN HAVE A VIDEO

    (the one monkey humping the one deer looks a little like Mueller.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/15/sex-between-snow-monkeys-and-sika-deer-may-be-new-behavioural-tradition
    ##################################
    This video may cause nightmares…

  324. Paul says:

    “if females cannot have access to males, they can have homosexual relations or relations with a deer.”

  325. Paul says:

    That video is kind of like Planet of the Apes. We may be doomed.

  326. Paul says:

    I don’t think the boy deer are entirely thrilled with this. I think some of those girl monkeys might need to be added to DW’s list.

  327. lisab says:

    how about …

    This Land Is Your Land
    Woody Guthrie

    This land is your land, this land is my land
    From the California to the New York island
    From the Redwood Forest, to the gulf stream waters
    This land was made for you and me
    As I went walking that ribbon of highway
    I saw above me that endless skyway
    And saw below me that golden valley
    This land was made for you and me

  328. Cash Cow TM says:

    It is easy to play on the guitar.

    But hard to dance to….
    (but I guess you could square dance to it…)

  329. lisab says:

    trump announces plan to send americans to predominantly non-muslim planets

    cnn

  330. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    329. “IF THE MONKEYS AND DEER MATE, IT IS ALL OVER!!!”

    It has already happened, and several have been elected to political office.

  331. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Robbie claims Trump is doomed because of low poll numbers. Am curious what politicians Robbie believes have high poll numbers?; most the Congressional leadership of both parties have lower poll numbers than trump. All the pigs in the pig pen are dirty.

  332. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    So Robbie says the case is closed about the GSA e-mail delivery to the Mueller team because Natasha Bertrand and Renato Mariatti have spoken.
    He says nothing about Jonathan Turley’s assessment.
    Robbie’s Democrat experts may be right that nothing unlawful has been done, but it does not diminish the fact that the Mueller team is sleazy,desperate and has a “win at all cost” ethos rather than being purveyors of truth and justice.

    Lastly, I relish the fact that Trump has completely consumed Robbie’s mind and his presence has pretty much disabled Robbie’s ability to lead a happy, normal life!

  333. Tina says:

    Rottie cites two drats?

    Lol. I see that manicotti or whatever his name is actually cites no law. Just states his opinion.

  334. Tina says:

    With that said, trump will not fire. mueller. There is a legal insurr3ction article stating that from yesterday, after the illegal seizure of the email story broke.

  335. Tgca says:

    Happy Sunday Critters.

    Only 8 more days to Christmas!

    Only 9 more days to Kwanzaa!

  336. Tgca says:

    338

    Playing the guitar and piano are easy. Want a real challenge, try playing the flute?

  337. Tgca says:

    333

    Just looks like one perv monkey to me making unwanted advances. This is clearly a case of sexual harassment and Congress needs to initiate a committee hearing to investigate immediately.

  338. Tgca says:

    FYI. Monkeys are very perverted creatures and rather enjoy putting on a voyeuriisyic show.

    Years ago, I was at the San Francisco zoo once and this monkey kept sticking its finger in its butt and then sticking it up to his nose. This one little kid noticed it and pointed it out to his mom rather loudly and she just rushed him away. It was the last time I went to the zoo but st least I had a good laugh.

  339. dblaikie says:

    It will be interesting to watch the poll numbers after the tax bill passes and next year watch millions look at their paychecks and see more money after with holding is adjusted.

  340. Tina says:

    Apparently, team mulehead acknowledges that they “mishandled” the emails.

    Duh.

  341. Tina says:

    Critically, a “significant volume of privileged material” was taken by Mueller, according to the Trump transition lawyer, and then used by the special counsel team in its investigation. Mueller’s staff apparently admits this egregious violation, which the law strictly forbids.

    I thought ut was just emails, now it is more.

    Phuq, mulehead…

  342. Tina says:

    The Presidential Transition Act states that all records of transition operations are private and confidential.

    On November 16, 2016, roughly ten days after Trump was elected president, the Chief Records Officer of the U.S. Government sent a letter to all federal agencies reminding them that “the materials that PTT members create or receive are not Federal or Presidential records, but are considered private materials.”

    Yet Mueller seems to have ignored the law. Without a warrant or subpoena, his team of lawyers brazenly demanded these private records from the General Services Administration (GSA) which held custody of the materials. The GSA does this as a service to all incoming presidents out of courtesy, but it neither owns the documents nor is authorized to release them to anyone under any circumstances because they are deemed entirely private.

    Gsa has no authority to turn thise offer and coukd not legalky do so. Gsa handles purchasing for the gubment, materials, supplies, office space leasing, etc.

  343. Tina says:

    Courts have clearly stated what prosecutors are supposed to do under these circumstances: “An attorney who receives privileged documents has an ethical duty to cease review of the documents, notify the privilege holder, and return the documents.” (U.S. v. Taylor 764 Fed Sup 2nd, 230, 235)

    Only the owner of such materials can waive the privileged that protects them. Since the GSA does not, under the law, own the records, only the transition team can make such a waiver. It did not.

    Hence, if any illegally obtained documents have been used in the Trump-Russia case, then the results are tainted and invalid. This is a well-established principle of law.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/17/gregg-jarrett-muellers-allegedly-lawless-acts-have-corrupted-his-probe-and-demand-his-removal.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

  344. Tina says:

    The use by Mueller of even one privileged document can, and must, result in his disqualification from the case.

    The case of Finn v. Schiller, 72 F.3rd 1182, 1189 spells out the required remedy for this violation of the law: “Courts have frequently used their supervisory authority to disqualify prosecutors for obtaining materials protected by the attorney-client privilege.”

    Statutory law also demands Mueller’s removal. Pursuant to 5 C.F.R. 2635.501, government employees, including prosecutors, are directed to “take appropriate steps to avoid an appearance of loss of impartiality in the performance of his or her official duties.”

    The lawyer for the Trump transition team states that the special counsel’s office admitted in a telephone conversation on Friday that it failed to use an “ethical wall” or “taint team” to segregate any privileged records. This is often done to keep them isolated from lawyers and investigators involved in the case.

    Yet, Mueller did not adopt such precautionary measures. Instead, he apparently allowed his team to utilize the documents while questioning witnesses in the Trump-Russia case.

    If true, Mueller’s conduct is not only unethical and improper, it constitutes lawlessness. On this basis, he must be removed and replaced.

    Drip, drip, drip…

  345. Tina says:

    The lawyer for the Trump transition team states that the special counsel’s office admitted in a telephone conversation on Friday that it failed to use an “ethical wall” or “taint team” to segregate any privileged records. This is often done to keep them isolated from lawyers and investigators involved in the case.

    Mulehead admission here.

  346. Tina says:

    Chief Records Officer of U.S. Govt. sent a reminder to all agencies that transition records were private and not subject to same rules as other records.

  347. NYCmike says:

    Robbie to ignore this story as well…

  348. Chicon says:

    Hugh and Tina – this is Gregg Jarrett who wrote this. Robbie has ruled that Fox News is not trustworthy. Therefore, this piece is worthless, despite its many good points. Sorry…..

  349. Tina says:

    Only lord arse hat and a drat running for il ag are reputable.

  350. Tina says:

    Questions

    Which investigator seized the illegal records?

    When did Mulehead find out? What was done when he found out?

    How was the illegal information used?

  351. Chicon says:

    Katherine Miller is political editor of Buzzfeed. Solid source…..

  352. Chicon says:

    Natasha Bertrand is a foreign policy and national security writer for Business Insider. No evidence of expertise in criminal law.

  353. Tina says:

    Presidential Records
    Presidential records are defined as “documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory or other official or ceremonial duties of the President…” (44 U.S.C. 2201(2).) These records can be in a variety of formats, including paper documents, photographs, motion picture film, tape recordings and electronic records. Presidential records are governed by the Presidential Records Act and are not subject to the Federal Records Act.

    https://www.gsa.gov/governmentwide-initiatives/presidential-transition/about-presidential-transitions

    Jebot can phuq off.

  354. Chicon says:

    Renato Mariotti is a Democrat who wants to be Attorney General of Illinois.

  355. Tina says:

    Chicon, see my #360

  356. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/942415899465838592/photo/1

    Here is the letter. It is clear that muellers rnegades illegally obtained the information. They went back after the gsa person was dying.

  357. Chicon says:

    Well, Bitter, Foles gets to ease into things with the Giants today.

  358. Chicon says:

    Tina, when dealing with courts and judges, things are rarely “clear”. Both sides will have an argument, and we’ll see what the judge says – if it ever comes to that.

  359. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    December 17, 2017 at 5:03 am
    Robbie claims Trump is doomed because of low poll numbers. Am curious what politicians Robbie believes have high poll numbers?; most the Congressional leadership of both parties have lower poll numbers than trump. All the pigs in the pig pen are dirty.

    – With a booming economy, to have an approval rating at or below 40% is a disaster. You can tell yourself fairy tales and say “but Rasmussen” or whatever else the excuse of the day might be, but the fact remains that Trump is getting no credit for a good economy. Why? The public, with the exception of hardcore conservatives and FoxNews viewers, has determined that Trump’s behavior is awful and his governance style is not good for the country.

    Rather than allow the economy to define his first year as president, Trump has chosen to make himself the focus of the first year and polling clearly indicates the public has decided to judge Trump harshly for his erratic and divisive behavior.

  360. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    December 17, 2017 at 6:21 am
    So Robbie says the case is closed about the GSA e-mail delivery to the Mueller team because Natasha Bertrand and Renato Mariatti have spoken.
    He says nothing about Jonathan Turley’s assessment.
    Robbie’s Democrat experts may be right that nothing unlawful has been done, but it does not diminish the fact that the Mueller team is sleazy,desperate and has a “win at all cost” ethos rather than being purveyors of truth and justice.
    Lastly, I relish the fact that Trump has completely consumed Robbie’s mind and his presence has pretty much disabled Robbie’s ability to lead a happy, normal life!

    – The GSA’s own agreement with the Trump transition team clearly states that their emails and documents are subject to the request of other agencies. Maybe Donnie Dingbat and his sycophant supporters should have read the fine print. And until they actually file a lawsuit, I’ll just assume this pubic letter was nothing but chum to rile up their lemming supporters.

    I get it though. The slack jawed Trump chumps are desperate to diminish and discredit Robert Mueller. The goal right now is nothing other than to protect Trump. The fate of the Party is meaningless because the dear leader comes first. That’s why you have fallen for the smears and conspiracies that Sean Hannity and the other FoxNews “journalists” have pushed.

    You are the on who should be ashamed of yourself, but I know that is a feeling Trump supporters are incapable of having. You are the one who has decided Trump, however corrupt he may or may not be, must be defended at all costs even if that means tearing everyone else down to accomplish that goal.

    Trump sycophant have become the useful idiots that Lenin so often discussed.

  361. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    December 17, 2017 at 9:40 am
    Robbie to ignore this story as well…

    – You’re absolutely right Mikeypoo. I am going to ignore the nonsense that come from Greg Jarrett and FoxNews. They have become nothing more than state run TV for Trump, but you’re clearly too dense to realize that.

    To be honest though, I would not have expected anything more from you. You spent a decade or more here showing us you have no common sense. If you had, you never would have supported candidates who had ZERO chance of winning general elections. Instead, you spouted off about Tea Party conservatives and other clickservative garbage only to show us it was all an act when you decided to support Trump at all costs.

  362. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 17, 2017 at 9:44 am
    Hugh and Tina – this is Gregg Jarrett who wrote this. Robbie has ruled that Fox News is not trustworthy. Therefore, this piece is worthless, despite its many good points. Sorry…..

    – Hey, look. Chicon got something right. He knew ahead of time I would dismiss something from Greg Jarrett because he is a nutcase. Good for you, Chicon. Now maybe you’ll really surprise all of us and admit you fell for two ridiculous conspiracies. You remember them, right? You believed Andrew Napolitano’s claim Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump and Rod Wheelers claim on FoxNews the DNC murdered Seth Rich.

    Glad to see you’ve licked your wounds after good ole Roy Moore lost and are back in action.

  363. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    December 17, 2017 at 11:27 am
    Tina, when dealing with courts and judges, things are rarely “clear”. Both sides will have an argument, and we’ll see what the judge says – if it ever comes to that.

    – Trump will almost certainly never sue over this because the terms of the agreement with the GSA were quite clear. This was simply an effort to throw chum in the water and rile up the sycophant base. In that regard, mission accomplished. That said, Trump’s team was asleep at the wheel and got badly outmaneuvered by Mueller. Too bad for them.