McMaster/Noble Lead SC Gov Primaries

It came up on my Facebook memory yesterday that on January 4, 2015, I said I was excited to see the return of Celebrity Apprentice. If we only knew then what we know now….

It has been a little hard getting into the political polling frame of mind this year, but we will start with a new poll in South Carolina from the Trafalgar Group showing the sitting Governor Henry McMaster leading the Republican primary race in his attempt to be elected to the office later this year.

Henry McMaster (inc) 40%
Kevin Bryant 11%
Catherine Templeton 8%
Yancey McGill 3%

Phil Noble 25%
James Smith 20%

This poll was done December 29-30 among 2223 likely primary voters overall. The primary for this race will be held June 12th.

Posted by Dave at 10:32 am
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606 Responses to “McMaster/Noble Lead SC Gov Primaries”

  1. Bitterlaw says:


  2. MichiganGuy says:

    First for second!

  3. Chicon says:

    If we’d only known we’d have tax cuts and a strict constructionist on the Supreme Court!

  4. MichiganGuy says:

    United flight is diverted to Alaska after a passenger ‘smeared feces everywhere’ and tried to stuff his shirt down the toilet.
    Has anyone seen Robbie?

  5. jason says:

    jason says:
    January 5, 2018 at 10:44 am

    You can bet that had Pence won the primaries, Wobbie would have vociferously attacked him just like he did Romney.

    He would have attacked Pence as a rabid rightwing deadender that was sure to destroy the R party, he would be here 24/7 whining about how Pence doesn’t eat alone with women and other “huge” issues like that.

    A leopard does not change its spots, and a moron like Wobbie does not change his M.O.

  6. NYCmike says:


  7. jason says:

    I said something before I said it?


  8. Bitterlaw says:

    Didn’t Robbie declare that Pence was dead to him for accepting the VP slot offered by the evil Trump?

  9. NYCmike says:

    The idea about a “Pence agenda”….I am pretty sure that ALL of us would have agreed that Pence had a reputation (radical, anti-women, anti-gay, evangelical conservative) that would have made him unable to be elected President.

    YES? NO?

    If that is true, then the fact that Trump was elected and is actually carrying out the “Pence Agenda” should be a point in Trump’s favor….unless, like some have stated, Robbie would just be undermining Pence at every turn, and would not agree with Pence’s conservative agenda.

  10. MichiganGuy says:

    The Mercer Family recently dumped the leaker known as Sloppy Steve Bannon. Smart!
    Sloppy Steve lol

  11. NYCmike says:

    Wow! There is some vitriol on that Twitter feed!

    Bitterlaw, NO, I never expressed such hatred towards Obama, or any other President, Senator, Representative.

    For that matter, I don’t think I have expressed such vitriol towards a person who had not committed a very serious felony offense against another human being. EVER!

  12. Chicon says:

    Yeah, Robbie got all jacked up yesterday. I wonder if he’ll tell us next time he’s on that someone stole his screen name.

  13. NYCmike says:

    “Didn’t Robbie declare that Pence was dead to him for accepting the VP slot offered by the evil Trump?”

    -I thought that was Corey (aka “CG”) but I am not positive about that.

  14. CG says:

    Not the words I used. I think it was possibly MD or jason. I know that at once point jason said he would refuse to support Pat Toomey for Senate, unless Toomey denounced Trump.

    I will never be a Pence fan of course. Nonetheless, for the sake of the country, he is far, far, far preferable to Trump. I cannot believe anyone who claims to be a conservative Republican cannot see otherwise.

  15. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I love your rants but what triggered 11? Was that meant for somebody else?

  16. NYCmike says:


    Just the other day, you made a statement about me HATING Obama, which I disagreed with.

    I just wanted to reiterate my position….just in case my “internet psychiatrist” tells me I meant something else.

  17. NYCmike says:

    ” I cannot believe anyone who claims to be a conservative Republican cannot see otherwise.”

    -Other than TPP, what policies/actions have been taken by PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE PAST YEAR go against your “very strong political principles”?

  18. NYCmike says:

    ” I know that at once point jason said he would refuse to support Pat Toomey for Senate, unless Toomey denounced Trump.”

    -I know for certain that MD will NOT SUPPORT Toomey in his 2022 re-election campaign, according to his Twitter ramblings.

  19. CG says:

    Almost everything

    Things like judges and tax reform were done by Congress.

    But once again, it’s not about “policies” and “actions.” I would feel the same way about Trump if I agreed with him on every issue.

  20. NYCmike says:

    In regards to those Twitter ramblings by MD, please note that John Harwood has been re-tweeted several times.

  21. NYCmike says:

    “Things like judges and tax reform were done by Congress.”

    -“tax reform were done by Congress.”

    PROGRESS! At least “CG” and I agree that Congress can now write legislation ON ITS OWN (if they want).

    As for the “Things like judges” part of the statement, we will have to visit that section of the Constitution… teaching days never end!

  22. Chicon says:

    19 – in this country the President nominates judges first, then the Senate confirms them. Senate doesn’t get to pick the judges.

  23. CG says:

    Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court because of actions taken by McConnell.

    If not for him, either a liberal would have been confirmed while Obama was in office or the seat would still be vacant.

    It was much harder for Congressional Republicans to push tax reform through the finish line than it otherwise would have been because of Trump. They did it in spite of him, and time will tell if they will face a political price from the voters.

  24. NYCmike says:

    “I would feel the same way about Trump if I agreed with him on every issue.”

    -Got it.

    You list three names, say: JEB!2016 , TRUMP, and HILLARY.

    You make a list of policy items.

    JEB!2016 – 100%

    Trump – 75%

    Hillary – 25%

    If you can’t have JEB!2016 at 100%, you would settle for HILLARY at 25%, instead of Trump at 75%.

    Sounds like what some would call a “deadender”……

  25. CG says:

    That’s complete bs.

    I want someone as President who is morally acceptable.

    Jeb would have been, as would many others. Neither Trump nor Clinton qualify.

  26. NYCmike says:

    “If not for him”, and if not for the other Republican Senators/politicians that backed him up, and if not for the thousands/millions of citizens, bloggers, talk-radio hosts who called and SHOUTED “Stand Strong, Turtle!”.

  27. NYCmike says:

    “That’s complete bs.”

    -No, it isn’t.

    If you want to add a moral component, fine.

    Either way, what I wrote is correct, in terms of policy.

  28. Chicon says:

    CG, where’s Robbie today? You sound as confused today as he did yesterday.

  29. NYCmike says:

    “Neither Trump nor Clinton qualify.”

    -This is the part where REALITY BITES, “CG”.

    No matter how high your moral certitude is, NOW, or in the FUTURE, one of those “immorals” were going to be President.

    LIFE IS TOUGH sometimes, ol’ buddy!

  30. CG says:

    I agree with Jeb Bush on less than 100%, Trump on less than 75%, and Clinton on less than 25%.

    You are the one who insists on ideological purity and a desire to defeat various incumbents.

    You are the one who said that Rubio did not belong in the Senate simply for appearing at a press conference with Chuck Schumer.

  31. CG says:

    Life is tough and one of them was going to be President, but not with my approval or action.

  32. NYCmike says:

    “I want”

    -Maybe when you grow up and become a parent, you’ll find that the Rolling Stones were right on the money with their song!

  33. CG says:

    Trump is not what I need. I am sorry if you feel that you need him to validate yourself.

  34. CG says:

    Now, why is Trump superior to Pence?

    What would be wrong theoretically with hoping for Trump to resign today and allowing Pence to be President until the next election?

  35. Chicon says:

    CG reads like a classic millennial.

  36. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is not what I need.”

    -When did the word “need” enter the conversation?

  37. NYCmike says:

    “You are the one who insists on ideological purity and a desire to defeat various incumbents.”


  38. dblaikie says:

    Well, it turns out that even Wolff now admits that his book is filled with untruths and even lies. Once again the media is playing into Trumps hands.

  39. Chicon says:

    34 – Trump is superior to Pence because he was elected to the office of President.

    Hoping for resignation or removal from office is simply a temper tantrum – people chose him to be President, and he serves 4 years. You just want to overrule the free will of the electorate – just like a true progressive.

  40. NYCmike says:

    “You are the one who said that Rubio did not belong in the Senate simply for appearing at a press conference with Chuck Schumer.”


    I said he was WRONG for working with him.

    I supported him for re-election, without reservation.

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    I want someone as President who is morally acceptable.

    That ship sailed when many of the early US Presidents owned slaves.

  42. CG says:

    Your Rolling Stones reference.

    If I “can’t get what I want”, in a President I will keep trying, as a citizen to hope the country makes a better choice. I’m not going to follow sheeplike people in demanding that either an Obama or a Trump is “what I need.”

  43. CG says:

    I was not alive during the time of slavery. Had I been, I believe I would have support Abolitionists and am proud that the Republican Party was formed in concert with that Movement.

  44. Chicon says:

    Bitter’s last weekday before the new gig, and he’s barely here. Now I’m bitter….

  45. NYCmike says:

    “Now, why is Trump superior to Pence?”

    -Superior is the wrong word, and makes no sense in the context of this political argument.

    Simple fact: Trump entered the primary, won it.

    Trump was nominated for the general election, and won it.


  46. CG says:

    So, since Obama won, should he have been given unquestioned loyalty?

    Trump should resign for the well-being of the country. It’s that simple. You can disagree if you want, but anyone making the “will of the people” argument, needs to feel the same way about Obama or about the Bill Clinton, impeachment, etc. I seriously doubt anyone here would have been saying, “well I opposed Hillary, but she won, so it’s up to me to give her my support now and see if she can exceed my expectations.”

    Trump is the one who was making the arguments that Bill Clinton did not deserve to be impeached by Republicans but George W. Bush should have been impeached by Democrats.

  47. Chicon says:

    45 – total copycat….

  48. NYCmike says:

    Again, when did the word “need” enter the conversation?

    I don’t “need” Trump.
    I don’t “need” Pence.

    I could even take JEB!, IF I was guaranteed he would have taken most of the same policy proposals that our current President supported this year…..of course, the main issue there is he would have to defeat all of the other primary opponents……LOL!

  49. CG says:

    What Rolling Stones song were you referencing then?

  50. NYCmike says:

    “45 – total copycat….”

    -Share the spoils, comrade!

  51. Chicon says:

    46 – more drivel. Not supporting on policy grounds is not the same thing as cooking up a phony impeachment charge or forcing resignation. Never entered by mind that Obama should be forced from office – he was elected.

    Clinton, otoh, committed perjury while in office….

  52. CG says:

    Should GWB have been impeached? Trump said he should have been.

  53. Chicon says:

    50 – anytime! Just busting huevos.

  54. Chicon says:

    52 – Trump was wrong.

  55. NYCmike says:

    “What Rolling Stones song were you referencing then?”

    -Ok, sorry, now I see where you got “need” from…..unfortunately, I am talking policy initiatives, you are talking individual person.

    You NEED JEB.
    I DON’T NEED Trump.

  56. CG says:

    So, what was the point of bringing up the Rolling Stone lyrics to counter me? Was that a mistake?

  57. CG says:

    I’m headed out for now.

    Maybe Robbie will show up later and you can all call each other names and get what you want out of that process.

  58. NYCmike says:

    “52 – Trump was wrong.”

    -Agreed. As he has been many times over the coarse of his life.

  59. Chicon says:

    CG – electing a President is not about getting what you need, it is about choosing FROM AMONG THOSE PRESENTED the person who you believe will best serve the country. Not choosing – or choosing one of the 1%ers – is a copout, it is letting others make the choice for you.

  60. NYCmike says:

    “So, what was the point of bringing up the Rolling Stone lyrics to counter me? Was that a mistake?”


    Read what I wrote.

    I am talking policy (conservative actions and legislation).
    You are talking individual (Trump).

  61. CG says:

    59. Nope, some bridges are just too far. I am sure you would feel the same way if presented with other choices.

  62. NYCmike says:

    “Maybe Robbie will show up later and you can all call each other names and get what you want out of that process.”

    -What is the website with the liberal that you go to?

    I would like to argue WITH YOU, against those liberals.

  63. NYCmike says:

    “I am sure you would feel the same way if presented with other choices.”

    -This guy is just ridiculous…..he will compare Trump to someone like David Duke shortly, as an alternative….which is total B*LLSH*T on his part.

  64. NYCmike says:

    “59. Nope, some bridges are just too far.”

    -Making excuses for Teddy now!?!? Appalling!

  65. CG says:

    Politicaldog101, they also ask about this site, and might be checking it out today. I would love to see all you people discussing stuff together (especially since you can all agree on disliking me) but it’s a small crowd there and the blog administrator has to approve all comments from new people before they are posted, but he will eventually do so.

  66. Chicon says:

    Yep. I had similar problems with Trump as many here. I often cannot stand how he acts. The choice was him or Hillary – you chose to bail on a tough decision and let others bear the weight of the decision.

  67. NYCmike says:


    Who “dislikes” you?

    I know I don’t. You are a sanctimonious prick, but I am not perfect either.

  68. Chicon says:

    66 was a reply to 61.

  69. CG says:

    Anybody who actually felt the need to vote for Trump or Clinton (and I have always said that there are decent people who did both of those things) can deal with the weight of that decision on their own.

    There is no way I could never have voted for either, but as I said, I did find Trump the worse of two evils, and absolutely consider him “David Duke Lite.”

  70. NYCmike says:

    “There is no way I could never have voted for either”

    -Grammar anyone?

  71. DW says:

    Super early for this, but here is the first 2018 Senate Dashboard, with the forecasts of Cook, Sabato, and Gonzales (who received the toupee from Rothenberg).

    Nothing yet from RCP or any of the others.

    2018 Paladin Senate Dashboard
    ST | Sabato| Cook | Gonz | Cnt
    MO | Toss | Toss | Toss | 50
    IN | Toss | Toss | Toss | 51
    AZ | Toss | Toss | Toss | 52
    NV | Toss | Toss | Toss | 53
    ND | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | 47
    MT | Ln D | Lk D | Tlt D | 46
    FL | Toss | Ln D | Tlt D | 45
    OH | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | 44
    WV | Ln D | Toss | Toss | 43
    PA | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | 42
    WI | Ln D | Lk D | Tlt D | 41
    VA | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | 40
    MI | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | 39
    MN(s) | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | 38

  72. DW says:

    Of course Sabato, Cook, and Gonzales are all pessimistic about the GOP’s chances.

    Long way to go. Recruitment, spending, scandals on both sides, blunders, unexpectedly great candidates, duds, and all the other twists and turns for senate races.

  73. NYCmike says:

    “and absolutely consider him “David Duke Lite.””

    -And what actions taken in the past year as President have confirmed this “absolute” belief……oh wait, here he goes with Charlottesville again…..I guess I am “David Duke Lite” as well.

    Pathetic reasoning, but it is following a pattern.

  74. NYCmike says:

    Inspired by a question from another blog:

    “If your choices for President were Gillibrand (D) and Mattis (R), for whom would you vote?”

    Let me ask this in another way:

    What type of person would be picked by a President Trump or a President Hillary for the position of Secretary of Defense?

    A Mattis-type, or a Gillibrand-type?

  75. mnw says:

    NYC posted:

    “CG? Who dislikes you?”

    Well, NYC, I sure as hell do!!! Little sanctimonious, illiterate threadpig— with delusions of grandeur too.

    Btw, RAS has Trump JA at 44% today— highest in 6 months.

    Gallup announced today that it will no longer be conducting daily presidential tracking polls, incidentally.

  76. NYCmike says:


    But you are a laid up, house-bound old fogey… don’t count anymore!

    Millenials RULE!

  77. NYCmike says:

    (I wrote that under the belief that once your knee heals you will be able to walk and enjoy the fresh air outside.)

  78. mnw says:


    Right on all counts. Old fogey. Check. Housebound. Check. Laid up. Check.

    You might also add, “ not in the best of moods.” The physical therapy hurts like a b*****d.

  79. Cash Cow TM says:

    Say…I hear tbey are relocating tens of thousands of NY Ds to PA. OH, and WI to wln the white house in 2020…

  80. NYCmike says:


    DON’T skip the physical therapy.

    I have 2 aunts that had knee surgery. One was very disciplined about therapy, the other one got lazy.

    Guess which one is able to dance the Lindy and the Charleston down in The Villages!

  81. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Trump’s approval in the Rasmussen(less) polling was 45% yesterday and 46% on December 28th.

  82. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cow is cosidering doing a daily presidential appproval poll to step in and fill void…

  83. NYCmike says:

    That dang Alfalfa!

  84. NYCmike says:

    “Cow is cosidering doing a daily..”

    -I am sure you already do!

  85. NYCmike says:

    “I have I’ll check on it later….”


    If you come by, use the same screen name, and make sure to mention that you know “CG”.

  86. mnw says:


    Then the headline at Drudge “Trump highest approval in 6 months” was wrong.

    I’m still encouraged that Trump’s holding up so well despite 1) the worst barrage of fakenews attacks I have ever seen in such a short time period, & 2) the fact that people haven’t seen their tax cut show up yet, i.e., in the form of lower withholding.

  87. mnw says:


    I’m doing the PT.

  88. Chicon says:

    Mnw – hopefully the Blues softened up the Knights for their tilt with the Hawks.

  89. NYCmike says:

    Keep it up, mnw!

    The Bluzz could need reinforcements!

  90. NYCmike says:

    As the Islanders continue their typical mid-season decline…….

  91. mnw says:


    One of the more exciting games I’ve seen. Knights really WERE redhot. Bluz stopped an 8-game win streak, I believe.

    The Knights are the best story on ice right now, & that’s a win-win for everybody. It helps attendance at Knights’ road games bigtime.

    The last 2 expansion teams, Jackets & Wild (I think), sukked thoroughly for the first couple of seasons.

  92. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t recall Corey calling for Obama to resign for the good of the country. He was willing to accept the results of the 2008 and 2012 elections but not 2016.

    Corey should try to adopt my attitude. I am embarrassed almost every day that Trump is President. I am elated every day that Hillary is not President. Both can be true.

  93. Chicon says:

    Mike, at least the Isles have that beautiful skating Nick Leddy. And the memory of one of the most underrated great players of all time – Mike Bossy.

  94. NYCmike says:

    PLUS, their jerseys are very cool, so more kids are getting into hockey because of it!


  95. Bitterlaw says:

    No more expansion teams in hot places. Bring back the Hartford Whalers!

  96. NYCmike says:

    MIKE Bossy is the reason I played hockey…(although I am a left-handed shot, and one of my best friends took the #22 before I did)!

    I have a signed picture of him hanging in my basement, along with a painting of The Hanson Brothers.

  97. Chicon says:

    91 – it is really good for league revenues, which is good for the salary cap. One thing so far, the Knights play HARD all the time.

  98. NYCmike says:

    Leddy hasn’t gotten us over the hump….but I do like him.

  99. Chicon says:

    96 – hard to find a better sniper – ever.

  100. NYCmike says:

    “Trottier, to Bossy down the right wing, in over the blue line, he shoots, he SCOREZZZZZZZ!” – music to my ears.

  101. NYCmike says:


    I was very lucky to have been 10 years old when the Islanders defeated a certain team to win their first Stanley Cup in 1980.

    Hey Bitterlaw, do you recall which team that was!?!? 🙂

  102. mnw says:

    Who would have thought that an expansion team would be a major DRAW? Fans want to check these Knights out, find out what all the fuss is about.

    I would be curious to know how the move from Nassau to Brooklyn affected the Isles’ attendance. I wonder if many of their season ticket holders renewed after the move. Yes, I’m too lazy to research it.

  103. NYCmike says:


    I have not looked at the numbers, but I have not gone to any games at Barclays yet, and probably won’t, unless someone offers me free tickets.

    The venue was NOT made for hockey, and the price$ are much higher than what I paid when we would go to the Coliseum, which had great views from just about any seat. I used to go to about 2 games a year, so not many.

    For die-hard Long Island fans, it is not that difficult to get to the games, with the LIRR right there.

    BUT, Nassau Coliseum was one of the few hockey arenas where you could tailgate before a game, which was fun.

  104. NYCmike says:


    If the new lawyer gig doesn’t work out, maybe we can go into business together.

  105. Chicon says:

    101 – Mike, I was much older than 10 when I watched the Blackhawks beat that same team to with their first Cup since the Kennedy Administration. Thank God for the Flyers…..

  106. NYCmike says:

    “Thank God for the Flyers…..”


  107. NYCmike says:


  108. NYCmike says:


    There we go!

  109. mnw says:


    Thx for the info about the Isles. I never understood the move, but I didn’t pay much attention because long way off.

    In the expansion draft, the Knights took David Perron from the Blues. Perron had been a question mark in St. Louis— obviously talented but never quite achieved what the club thought he could.

    So, Perron is now the Knights’ third leading scorer, on a team that is second in the league in scoring. I suspect the Knights got a lot of players similarly situated to Perron— underperformers who understood that the Knights represented a once-in-a-career opportunity to step up & achieve real prominence. Hungry men.

  110. Chicon says:

    Is WiFi not working on the plane today?

  111. mnw says:

    It seems to be the universal opinion that the next NHL expansion city will be Seattle.

  112. NYCmike says:

    In regards to the Islanders – I was hoping they would move back to the Coliseum after they fixed it up, but from all reports the rehab did NOT include several levels of suites, which the NHL requires now.

    They are now talking about building a new facility near Belmont Racetrack…..the traffic nightmares have already begun!

    I do know that I would VOTE AGAINST any use of public $$$ if I have the opportunity. There is no need for that anymore in NYC, in my opinion.

  113. mnw says:


    Thx. I just read that.

    I hadn’t realized that Perron had 46 points last season— I would’ve guessed half that. With 20/20 hindsight, looks like the Bluz should’ve protected Perron!

  114. Chicon says:

    113 – the commute to Seattle is even worse!!

  115. Chicon says:

    Mnw – the Hawks lost Trevor Van Reimsdyke and Marcus Kruger (had to promise the former to get the Knights to take the latter). Both now with Carolina. The manoeuvres around the draft were very interesting and complex. Obviously, the Knights did a fine job.

  116. mnw says:

    Obviously indeed. This guy Karlsson from Sweden is their emerging all star right now. Had the team’s first hat trick recently. The Knights stole him from the Bluejackets.

  117. Chicon says:

    Jackets were, I think, in a spot where several young good players had to be exposed. I vaguely recall they agreed to give up Karlsson to protect another player.

    It’ll be interesting to watch them around the trade deadline.

  118. NYCmike says:

    -Tough choices ahead. Not sure if the correct choices will be made, but I am glad that Mattis-types are discussing what to do, instead of Gillibrand-types.

  119. CG says:

    Josh Mandel has dropped out of the Ohio Senate race citing a health issue for his wife. Hopefully, everything will be ok, but the party has less than a month now to find an alternative to take on Sherrod Brown.

  120. Waingro says:

    I think she would be the best choice to replace Mandel, who just dropped out of the race.

    Zach C. Cohen?Verified account @Zachary_Cohen

    Spox for Lt. Gov. @MaryTaylorOH says she “would certainly” consider running for #OHsen following Josh Mandel’s exit. “There’s lots of interest in her doing that. … She is receiving many phone calls right now” about the Senate race.

  121. CG says:

    Mary Taylor would be a good choice for Senate. She’s currently running for Governor but the GOP race there has been boiling down to the establishment DeWine/Husted ticket against the pro-Trump Renacci.

  122. CG says:

    The immediate reaction from Kasich’s chief strategist to suggestions he run for Senate was “bigger fish to fry.”

    Indeed there are.

  123. Waingro says:

    #123, Kasich could probably be primaried by a MAGA guy at this point given his more recent anti-Trump rhetoric. Trump, himself, would personally spend a lot of effort trying to derail him. Taylor would arguably be safer and quietr choice.

  124. Waingro says:

    #124, “quieter”

  125. CG says:

    Taylor would be my choice for Governor there, but she is mired in third place.

    If she leaves the race to run for the Senate, it improves the chance of DeWine/Husted to beat Renacci, which is what I would want, and then they would be stronger in a general election than Renacci would be.

    If Renacci runs for Senate and is nominated, he probably cannot win, but at least the Gubernatorial race would be more favorable.

    Sorry to hear that the Mandel family is going through this.

  126. CG says:

    As for Kasich, I believe he is completely focused on the possibility of running for President as an Independent once his term as Governor ends.

  127. Robbie says:

    Josh Mandel was a crummy candidate who had already lost this race once and he would have lost again. Still, this is what happens when a party is facing a disastrous election year. Rather than run, they look for the exits. See Evan Bayh in 2010. And oh by the way, Tiberi just said he would not run either.

    Congrats to Sherrod Brown.

  128. Paul says:

    I think there is little doubt that Kasich is prepping for an independent run for Pres in 2020. I’m fairly sure it will fail. I wonder if it potentially hurts Trump or Dems.

  129. CG says:

    I think we can take him at his word that his wife is sick. I don’t think he would be dropping out otherwise. The race against Brown would have been competitive at the least.

    I thought very highly of Mandel and regret that he did have an instance of trying to play footsie with the alt-right a few months back. He will have other chances for higher office down the road.

  130. CG says:

    I think potentially Mary Taylor would be a stronger general election candidate than Mandel.

  131. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 5, 2018 at 10:44 am
    You can bet that had Pence won the primaries, Wobbie would have vociferously attacked him just like he did Romney.
    He would have attacked Pence as a rabid rightwing deadender that was sure to destroy the R party, he would be here 24/7 whining about how Pence doesn’t eat alone with women and other “huge” issues like that.
    A leopard does not change its spots, and a moron like Wobbie does not change his M.O.

    – I see HHR’s biggest farud is out doing what he does best: lying.

    As I have told this little waste of oxygen multiple times, Pence was one of my preferred picks when the 2012 process kicked off in early 2011. In fact, he and Mitch Daniels, both Indianans were my top two choices. But since Jason is a miserable lair, who can’t get over the fact his little guy Rubio used his shot at Trump to talk about dick size and pant wetting, facts don’t matter.

  132. GF says:

    Good afternoon, HHR,

    Mary Taylor would be a good contrast to the wife-beating Brown in this new “MeToo” era. The state is “Trumpy” enough to warrant a competitive race, and Brown has lucked out running in the toxic ‘06 (anti-Taft and GWB) environment as well as having the Obama turnout machine working for him in ‘12.

  133. CG says:

    Robbie is right that lying jackals are trying to discredit him, however I don’t recall Pence being talked about as a serious 2012 candidate. He was running for Governor fairly early in 2011.

  134. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    January 5, 2018 at 11:07 am
    Yeah, Robbie got all jacked up yesterday. I wonder if he’ll tell us next time he’s on that someone stole his screen name.

    – No. Nobody stole my screen name. Someone needed to come to this forum and knock some sense into the MAGA morons, Trump chump, and shills and I was glad to do so.

    That said, a scumbag using your screen name accused me of rooting for Trump to have a stroke. A scumbag using your screen name also fell for conspiracy theories that the DNC murdered Seth Rich and that Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump.

  135. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    January 5, 2018 at 12:02 pm
    CG, where’s Robbie today? You sound as confused today as he did yesterday.

    – I’m right here you pathetic scumbag. Got any other ridiculous conspiracies for us?

  136. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    January 5, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    “Maybe Robbie will show up later and you can all call each other names and get what you want out of that process.”
    -What is the website with the liberal that you go to?
    I would like to argue WITH YOU, against those liberals.

    – Got any moronic hot takes from team twitchy for us today?

  137. NYCmike says:


    Double-barreled, plus Paul!

  138. NYCmike says:


    Thank you for the more sane outlook, and also to “CG”, for a level-headed discussion about Ohio/Mandel.

  139. NYCmike says:

    “That said, a scumbag using your screen name accused me of rooting for Trump to have a stroke.”

    -Something was written yesterday about Trump having a stroke.

    I will look it up.

  140. CG says:

    I do find it kind of ironic that during the campaign last year there were “Never Trump” people and even in one case somebody who said they would reluctantly vote for Trump who on here openly hoped for him to expire from a heart attack before the election. That is not something I would ever say or wish for, but some others did and now those people are pro-Trump and will criticize Robbie and I for not being pro-Trump.

    Is it wishing for death or unquestioned support? Can’t there be something in between?

  141. Paul says:

    I asked hypothetically about the 25th amendment. Robbie said it wasn’t something that would happen… unless a president had a stroke. Nothing about desiring such an outcome.

  142. CG says:

    I genuinely hope he does not have a stroke,, I simply want him to resign, and live many years in good health in exile in Russia, but I wonder if he did, might we might even know the difference?

    Some wouldn’t care, even under that circumstance, and would oppose the 25th.

  143. NYCmike says:

    Robbie says:
    January 4, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    Paul says:
    January 4, 2018 at 3:27 pm
    I personally think Trump is quite competent and the Cabinet is not even going to consider the 25th amendment. But HYPOTHETICALLY, what do people think. Would there be a scenario where that was used.

    – Only if he had a stroke.

  144. CG says:

    The Tweets might improve.

  145. NYCmike says:

    CG says:
    January 5, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    I do find it kind of ironic that during the campaign last year there were “Never Trump” people and even in one case somebody who said they would reluctantly vote for Trump who on here openly hoped for him to expire from a heart attack before the election. That is not something I would ever say or wish for, but some others did and now those people are pro-Trump and will criticize Robbie and I for not being pro-Trump.

    Is it wishing for death or unquestioned support? Can’t there be something in between?

    -You are the one making the accusation.

    Back it up with a simple cut-and-paste, so we know about whom you speak.

  146. NYCmike says:


    President Trump would have a stroke, get removed via the 25th Amendment, President Pence would be sworn in, “CG” and Robbie would NOT be happy about that.

    BUT, if he is voted out in 2020 because a “center-right candidate” allows a Democrat (Hillary, Warren, Sanders, Biden, Franken) to garner more Electoral Votes than him, they will be HAPPY.

    OK, that is plausible.

  147. CG says:

    146. Don’t worry, it wasn’t you.

  148. NYCmike says:

    #147 – assuming a 3-way-race, like in 1992.

  149. Mr.Vito says:

    As of now, there is no indication from Gallup Party ID of a 2008 or 2016 style rout. The averages of the posted samples are basically the same as 2012 and 2016 for most of the year. So, turnout would be what matters… if Republicans are moving the country and economy forward and there is relative progress/peace on the world stage, I would look for an average to above average result.

    If things deteriorate, then it will turn into a bad year.

  150. Mr.Vito says:

    *2008 or 2006 rout

  151. CG says:

    I wouldn’t be happy his family would have to see him suffering from the result of a stroke, but I would be relieved Pence is President. As I said, I would prefer a healthier option.

    I would be “happy” if a center-right candidate (or someone truly conservative period) is elected President in 2020 and Trump is not.

  152. NYCmike says:

    “146. Don’t worry, it wasn’t you.”

    -No kidding, assh*le. I know I did not do that.

    BUT, AGAIN, you are making accusations without giving proof.

    More and more I think about it, I see why you wanted Hillary to be President…..Mr. More Republican Than Anyone.

  153. mnw says:

    I thought one of the 3 trolls here said he was”leaving for awhile”!

    I think CG, Paul & Wobbles are all the same adzh*le in any event.

    Why in the name of God do these jerks think we CARE about their deep thoughts?

  154. NYCmike says:

    “I would be “happy” if a center-right candidate (or someone truly conservative period) is elected President in 2020 and Trump is not.”

    -I might be happy as well.

    What policies would this new President enact that would be more conservative/Republican-type policies?

    Which Trump (Pence) policies would he continue?

    Which Trump (Pence) policies would he look to end?

  155. CG says:

    It’s virtually impossible to find “proof” of something said in tens of thousands of comments. (It was fairly easy when each thread comments were searchable via Google which was the case until several months back), but I remember what was said here.

    Somebody (their name rhymes with Less) said that they wanted both Trump and Hillary to have “widow makers.” I said that would be sad for all involved and would just be an excuse for Bill to hit on Melania.

  156. NYCmike says:


    Will that center-right-candidate choose a Mattis-type or Gillibrand-type for SecDefense?

  157. CG says:

    I don’t know. Clinton and Obama picked Republicans for the Cabinet, Trump has picked Democrats.

    I’d be most concerned about the person in the Oval Office though.

  158. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t know. Clinton and Obama picked Republicans for the Cabinet, Trump has picked Democrats.”

    -This is exactly why I keep asking about policy, instead of individual.

    “Republicans” picked by Clinton and Obama: Hagel & Cohen – horrible jobs!

  159. NYCmike says:

    Which other Republicans?

    The guy from Utah!? Another rock-ribbed Republican!

  160. NYCmike says:

    Remind me, please: Which Democrat did Trump pick?

  161. Waingro says:

    Kevin Robillard?Verified account @PoliticoKevin

    Rep. Jim Renacci is leaning towards switching to running for #OHSen, will make a final decision this weekend, source with knowledge of his thinking says.

  162. CG says:

    LaHood was another one.

    Bob Gates, a Republican, served as Defense Secretary under Obama. I thought he did very well in that role, but that Obama was still a horrible President.

    So, same thoughts I have about Mattis and Trump.

  163. NYCmike says:

    “So, same thoughts I have about Mattis and Trump.”

    -Again – which policies do you disagree with?

  164. CG says:

    Which guy from Utah? Huntsman? The same guy Trump made Ambassador to Russia.

    Democrats in the Trump Cabinet include Cabinet Secretary Wilbur Ross and Steve Mnunchin at Treasury. I don’t know if VA Secretary Shulkin considers himself a Democrat or not, but he was literally a holdover from the Obama Admin. (So much for him wanting to clean house at the VA)

    He also had wanted to put Manchin and Heitkamp in the Cabinet and they turned it down.

  165. NYCmike says:

    Ray LaHood – big supporter of high-speed rail – aka boondoggles

  166. NYCmike says:

    Again – Democrat, Republican – what are the policies that are being pushed by the Executive?

    Which ones do you disagree with? (besides TPP, as you already mentioned that ONE item)

  167. CG says:

    It’s hard to separate the rhetoric and the policies. I hope Mattis is effective in preventing Trump from his worst instincts.

    Withdrawing from NATO would be a bad policy. Doing something just to please Putin would be a bad policy. An unwarranted retreat from Afghanistan would be a bad policy. Who knows how he might possibly mess up this NK situation?

  168. CG says:

    Again NYC, I listed about 10 things on the previous thread two days ago. You can go revisit it.

  169. CG says:

    “Ray LaHood – big supporter of high-speed rail – aka boondoggles”

    Donald-Trump- big supporter of high-speed rail – MAGA! and “I love that man.”

  170. NYCmike says:

    Huntsman – yes. Another guy looking for a center-right coalition.

    Keep him as far away from an elected Republican position in Utah, unless he was going to move to a deep red state, and then I would be fine with his attempt to serve the citizens again.

  171. Bitterlaw says:

    The Flyers beat the Soviets to the point where the commie bastards threatened to not play the third period. The Flyers’ owner threatened to not pay them if they did not finish the game.

  172. NYCmike says:

    “Who knows how he might possibly mess up this NK situation?”

    -“mess up”?

    Would you define the situation as NOT messed up?

  173. NYCmike says:

    Good comeback, Bitterlaw.

    They deserve respect for showing the Commies Old Time Hockey!

  174. CG says:

    Even closer than the Cabinet, Ivanka, Jared, and Cohn are definitely Democrats.

    Just ask Sloppy Steve and his fans.

  175. CG says:

    Compared to what might possibly happen, it’s not currently messed up.

  176. NYCmike says:

    “Withdrawing from NATO would be a bad policy.” – more rhetoric that you are scared of.

    Personally, any agreement should always be evaluated every so often.

    I would ask – Is Turkey an ally?

  177. NYCmike says:

    “Compared to what might possibly happen, it’s not currently messed up.”

    -Neville called, and he agreed.

  178. CG says:

    If Renacci runs for Senate and is nominated, Brown is likely reelected, but that was the most likely outcome anyway.

    However, if Renacci is not the GOP nominee for Governor, Republicans will have a better chance of keeping that office against likely Richard Cordray.

  179. NYCmike says:

    “Even closer than the Cabinet, Ivanka, Jared, and Cohn are definitely Democrats.”

    -What policies are they pushing?

    Does Congress have any say?

  180. Robbie says:

    Hey, NYCmike. Want to know why Roy Moore’s accusers were afraid of going public with his molestation of them? Well maybe this is a reason.

    Kyle Griffin

    Roy Moore accuser Tina Johnson lost her home Tuesday in a fire that is now under investigation by the Etowah County Arson Task Force.

  181. CG says:

    I am not calling on appeasement of North Korea. My G-d, you love your strawmen.

    It’s a very serious situation and call me crazy but I don’t think being flippant about nuclear weapons, especially on Twitter, is the best thing to do.

    I was willing to give Trump some credit for trying to put pressure on China to get more involved in stopping North Korea, but he seems to have failed in doing so and he is far too easily goaded by the dictator in NK and insecure about his own button size.

  182. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    January 5, 2018 at 3:45 pm
    “That said, a scumbag using your screen name accused me of rooting for Trump to have a stroke.”
    -Something was written yesterday about Trump having a stroke.
    I will look it up.

    – Let me save you the time. Paul asked under what circumstances would the 25th amendment be invoked. I said only if Trump has a stroke.

  183. NYCmike says:

    ““Compared to what might possibly happen, it’s not currently messed up.””

    -Maybe we should let the Norks annex Seoul….

  184. NYCmike says:

    “– Let me save you the time.”


    I already copied and pasted it above.

  185. CG says:

    Yeah, Congress is likely to go along with what they want, and if some or a bunch of Democrats come onboard, for the liberal policies that Ivanka wants, such as universal paid maternity leave, then it’s going to be even easier.

    As long as Republicans in Congress live in fear of Trump mean-Tweeting them or threatening primary challenges, there is not much they are going to do to “stop him.” Trump has proven that he is willing to cut even a bad with deal with Schumer and Pelosi just to claim a “win” so that is another factor.

    Nonetheless, the Trump/Bannon divorce is significant for the establishment Republicans. They are both weaker without each other. Mitch McConnell deserves to smile.. for now.

  186. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    I thought one of the 3 trolls here said he was”leaving for awhile”!
    I think CG, Paul & Wobbles are all the same adzh*le in any event.
    Why in the name of God do these jerks think we CARE about their deep thoughts?

    – I’m right here. I’m not CG, but you’re still the miserable person who says it’s a gift the FBI is being discredited. Why do you think that? I guess because you’re mad with the way they may or may not be treating your dear orange leader. Funny, I don’t remember you whining like a baby with a diaper full of crap about the way the FBI treated Hillary in 2015 and 2016.

  187. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:18 pm
    Ray LaHood – big supporter of high-speed rail – aka boondoggles

    – You think anyone who wants to spend government money is supporting boondoggles.

  188. CG says:

    Up until last year, mnw was a laughingstock on here, right up there with D.ondero and Eph. But it’s nice that Trump has brought so many people together now.

  189. Chicon says:

    183 – you denied wishing for a stroke – good enough for me. Calling him mentally ill, though….

  190. NYCmike says:

    On the radio this morning, the host played clips of Bubba Clinton giving a speech about the No Korea deal, and then Obama giving the speech about the Iran deal.

    Should we have more of the same?

    Or try something different?

  191. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has done fine with the actual policy implementation. His messaging is a crap shoot. It really doesnt matter who is responsible for the policy details to me as long as he is working with and steering toward the right people. With Trump there was a strong chance of this with Ryan, Pence, and even seasoned politicians like Newt and Rudy, as well as others around him… with Hillary, there was no chance.

    Its becoming clearer that Bannon’s influence in the administration was largely a creation of his own fantasy with an eager MSM propping up the idea. Just like he leeched power from Breitbart and ruined it after his death… he thought he could ride Trump and then substitute himself as a leader of some movement.

    Maybe he got the idea from Sharpton and Jackson…

  192. CG says:

    Being mentally ill is not the same as having a stroke.

  193. Bitterlaw says:

    Unless Robbie has a link, I call bs on the claim he wanted Pence in 2012. Nobody was talking about Pence here as Prez or Veep before 2016.

  194. CG says:

    Different good or different worse?

    It kind of matters.

  195. NYCmike says:

    “– You think anyone who wants to WASTE government money is supporting boondoggles.”

    Fixed it for you.

  196. NYCmike says:

    “It kind of matters.”

    -Yeah, it does.

    Looking at history, other than in Chile, tell me where a tyrannical dictatorship which threatened its neighbors yielded positive results when left alone for a long period of time?

  197. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Dr. Corey can analyze me. I criticize Trump every day. I have condemned the fact that HHR has indeed become a pro-Trump echo chamber for some posters. Am I a TRUMP CHUMP?

  198. Mr.Vito says:

    Mnw was never a laughingstock on here. He was correctly criticized for using a particular phrase. Otherwise he has been no worse a poster than most others here.

  199. NYCmike says:

    CG says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    Up until last year, mnw was a laughingstock on here, right up there with D.ondero and Eph. But it’s nice that Trump has brought so many people together now.

    -That is one way to look at it.

    I recall he had a bad rep because he used the term “wetback”. People called him a “racist” because of that, which I thought was quite harsh and overblown.

    He came back, stated unequivocally that he had been wrong to use that term, and I accepted that.

    His actions since then have not betrayed that sentiment.

    “CG”, on the other hand, has confirmed he is a sanctimonious prick.

  200. Bitterlaw says:

    Bannon and Trump tearing each other apart? Who did not see that coming? It was as predictable as the wall never being built.

  201. CG says:

    Who is saying to leave them alone?

    I am saying there are no good options at all there, so we have to at least try not to make things worse. Fighting about buttons on Twitter is not going to deter Un, if he truly is a madman (even madder than Trump)

    We should push China to try to stop North Korea and continue with the sanctions. We should allow Japan and South Korea to get nukes as a deterrent and to also send a message to China.

    But for now, let’s speak softly about how big our stick is.

  202. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, “CG”,

    Did you follow Krugman’s advice after the election?

    Or have you allowed your retirement accounts to swell?

  203. CG says:

    Not a TRUMP CHUMP, but someone who should also realize why others have the right to say what they want about Trump and how opposition to Trump does not mean that they are or ever were pro-Hillary.

    Golden Rule and all.

  204. NYCmike says:


    -I posted a link to Scott Adams.

    No, he is not an expert.
    But, he has been more right on certain things than a lot of “experts”.

    He has a different take on the “button” issue.

    Do you read different ideas?

  205. CG says:

    I don’t have anything invested in the market or a 401K at the moment.

  206. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t have anything invested in the market or a 401K at the moment.”

  207. NYCmike says:

    Hopefully, you bought that condo at a good time.

  208. Bitterlaw says:

    I thoroughly condemned mnw for his racist language for years. However, while I do not believe in redemption, I believed his apology for that language was sincere. Saint Corey can let it go now. (There are Jewish saints).

  209. NYCmike says:

    On Instapundit:

    PAUL KRUGMAN ON ELECTION NIGHT: “If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.”

    REUTERS TODAY: Wall Street caps best week in over a year to start 2018.

    Related: By all measures, a construction boom is shaping up for 2018.

  210. lisab says:

    but I remember what was said here.
    do you rember this?

    corey says:

    I’ve been saying 52-38 for months.


  211. CG says:

    I was the one who asked mnw to retract the wetbacks comment and he did, and I gave him immediate credit for doing so. What does he think of “MexiFornia” now though?

    I still think he is way out there and that was his reputation for a long time. I never called him the names that MD and jason did though.

  212. NYCmike says:

    “I’ve been saying 52-38 for months.”

    -I know he lost $1k to jason….how much else did he wager?

    Is that why no savings or 401K?

    How does someone not have a retirement account these days?

  213. CG says:

    If I knew I was going to live until retirement age, maybe I would have a 401K.

  214. CG says:

    At one point, several years back, I signed up for a 401K and literally got laid off the next week.

  215. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey – You were cheerleading for Hillary to win because it meant Trump would lose. You went to great extremes to pretend that Hillary was not as extreme as she really is. You did portray her as a pragmatic compromiser.

    You can hate Trump all day every day. Just admit that a Trump loss is a Democratic victory. That is how the real world works.

  216. NYCmike says:

    CG says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    If I knew I was going to live until retirement age, maybe I would have a 401K.


    How come you didn’t tell us you were relatives?

  217. CG says:

    That’s all b.s. You can think whatever you want, but then don’t ask me to defend you when someone else says something you don’t like about yourself. As you have noticed, I don’t mention you on here.

  218. NYCmike says:

    “If I knew I was going to live until retirement age, maybe I would have a 401K.”

    -Might as well just wait until you are guaranteed…..

  219. CG says:

    Yeah, let’s play the “would we switch places” game… or not.

  220. NYCmike says:

    “You can hate Trump all day every day. Just admit that a Trump loss is a Democratic victory. That is how the real world works.”

    -Stay tuned!

  221. CG says:

    I was quite open in saying that I was not happy about the Democrats winning the White House, but expected it and viewed the Hillary Presidency as the chemotherapy that was necessary to kill off Trumpism in the Republican Party.

  222. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I did not contribute to 401k at my old firm because my firm only matched up to 3%. I decided to not contribute so my wife could put more in her 401k. My plan is to die from diabetes long before she retires.

    I will contribute to 401k at the new job since I am not paying a 3% Philadelphia wage tax. Of course. I would gladly pay the tax if I could get a job in the city.

  223. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey – “Trumpism” dies when Trump leaves office for one reason. There is no Trump ideology.

  224. CG says:

    All the more reason to not want him in office.

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    Why would I expect you to defend me here. I say worse things about myself than anybody else.

    You don’t mention me because you know what I say is true about you. Pragmatic and compromise were your terms for Hillary.

  226. CG says:

    Compared to Obama, certainly. Compared to Sanders, certainly. 100% verifiable in many ways and certainly the consensus opinion on HHR when she was running for President against Obama. The Clintons have no principle beyond their own political self-interest and perhaps the money they can make in the process. Very similar to Trump obviously.

    Obama was willing to see his party decimated just to get the policies he wanted.

  227. Bitterlaw says:

    I will be the greatest former coach former broadcaster coach ever.

    – Jon Gruden.

  228. JC says:

    NYCmike says:
    January 5, 2018 at 4:53 pm
    On Instapundit:

    PAUL KRUGMAN ON ELECTION NIGHT: “If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.”

    REUTERS TODAY: Wall Street caps best week in over a year to start 2018.

    “Experts say” is the liberal’s way to try to factualize their opinions.

  229. mnw says:


    You said it.

  230. mnw says:

    CG/Cory doesn’t impress me as a 401k kind of guy somehow.

    I see him/her/it as more of a Zero’s “free zh*t army” kind of laddie.

  231. CG says:

    Didn’t you have a dog that ran away from you?

  232. CG says:

    Serious question for you mnw…

    In your view, should the U.S. allow any amount of legal immigration?

    (Euro imports for the Blues do not count)

  233. mnw says:

    What other screen names do you post under? Tee-hee! Such good trolly fun! Conservatives are just too stupid, you know, to recognize threadpig troll games.

  234. mnw says:

    I’m not going to engage an adzh*le like YOU on anything substantive.

    Serious question: GFY.

    OK, that’s not a question.

  235. CG says:

    I should post as Slithery Azeala or whatever term it was that you called me a few years back.

  236. CG says:

    Ok, so the answer to the question seems fairly obvious.

    If you are in that much physical pain to act like this, I truly have sympathy for you. Stay away from the medical weed though. It’s not going to turn out well.

  237. NYCmike says:

    I’ll take a hit:

    “In your view, should the U.S. allow any amount of legal immigration?”


    Question to you:

    Are the changes that have been made by the Legislative Branch and the Executive Branch different than the changes that a President Hillary would have made? And were those changes better for the country as a whole, at least in the short-term?

  238. NYCmike says:

    “Pragmatic and compromise were your terms for Hillary.”

    -NO DOUBT.

  239. CG says:

    Some are different, some are not different.

    Too early to know about the impact. If you are asking me who is better Trump or Hillary on “issues”, there would probably be a point for (or against) in both directions in my view. None of that is relevant though as long as the person who is President is an ethical and/or moral disgrace, which would include either of them.

    The weekend is here. Stay warm!

  240. NYCmike says:

    “Too early to know about the impact.”

    -I did say “short-term.

    Some “issues” can be measured in the short-term, while others can’t be.

  241. lisab says:

    “As of today, I think Trump wins AL, AR, ID, KY, LA, MS, NE (statewide), ND, OK, SD, TN, WV, and WY.”


    robbie or corey?

  242. NYCmike says:


  243. Paul says:

    242: I think they will have lots of giggles with putting various things on those screens behind Sanders.

  244. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    245. Speaking about Robbie, here is another person without any credibility:

    “Al Gore @algore
    It’s bitter cold in parts of the US, but climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann explains that’s exactly what we should expect from the climate crisis.

    Isn’t this the guy who was telling us the certain mountain would no longer have snow, and the polar ice cap should have disappeared by now.

  245. NYCmike says:


  246. Tina says:

    Who is better on issues?

    I chose, hillary.

    Jebots 1-3.

  247. Tina says:

    Any news from Mulehead and Swampstein?

  248. Tina says:

    The noose is certainly tightening.

    Good work Senators on your ciminal referral of the dossier. The first criminal action related to russia.

  249. lisab says:


    actually …


  250. lisab says:

    ok, now an easy one …


    You should like Cutler Bitterlaw, he has diabetes.

  251. NYCmike says:

    Corey is always more verbose, and certain, with an air of pomposity, than Robbie.

    Robbie is more off-the-wall than Corey, but less holier-than-thou.

  252. Chicon says:

    254 – lisa, Bitter has diabetes and doesn’t even like himself. Why would he like Cutler?

  253. NYCmike says:

    The next comment would be something like this:

    “Of course I ache to know that you ache, but if G-D truly exists, he gave the disease to the right person.”

  254. Chicon says:

    255 – CG is boring and obvious, imo. Robbie has much better skills as a troll.

  255. lisab says:

    #254 was just a tease …

    now a hard one … without looking at the prediction contest who said

    “I’ve gone back and forth with my electoral map prediction, but I finished with Clinton 341 and Trump at 197.”

    50-50, robbie or corey?

  256. Chicon says:


  257. Tina says:

    Both rottie and clintongroupie have no 401k either.

  258. DW says:

    248 – he’s the one.

  259. lisab says:

    Corey is always more verbose, and certain, with an air of pomposity, than Robbie.

    actually … that is a recent development since they have been accused of being the same person

    if you look back before the election, corey was generally not verbose.

  260. lisab says:


    final answer? care to phone a friend?

  261. Tina says:

    I really like al gore. He is presidential timber. 2nd choice if hilary does not run.


  262. lisab says:

    i think biden is serious about running

    and he would be formidable. he can certainly be an obnoxious speaker and will get down into the mud like trump. his debate against ryan was just awful because ryan let biden walk all over him.

    bad points: he is old. he may not be able to get the nomination.

  263. lisab says:

    The excerpt says President Donald Trump often spends 17 hours a day watching a makeshift “gorilla channel” put together by his aides.

    “On his first night in the White House, President Trump complained that the TV in his bedroom was broken, because it didn’t have ‘the gorilla channel,'” the excerpt began. “Trump seemed to be under the impression that a TV channel existed that screened nothing but gorilla-based content, 24 hours a day.

    “To appease Trump, White House staff compiled a number of gorilla documentaries into a makeshift gorilla channel, broadcast into Trump’s bedroom from a hastily-constructed transmission tower on the South Lawn. However, Trump was unhappy with the channel they had created, moaning that it was ‘boring’ because ‘the gorillas aren’t fighting.'”

    It continued: “Staff edited out all the parts of the documentaries where gorillas weren’t hitting each other, and at last the president was satisfied. ‘On some days he’ll watch the gorilla channel for 17 hours straight,’ an insider told me. ‘He kneels in front of the TV, with his face about four inches from the screen, and says encouraging things to the gorillas, like ‘the way you hit that other gorilla was good.’ I think he thinks the gorillas can hear him.”

  264. mnw says:

    I knew he liked MMA.

  265. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey always thought that I would be a Cutler fan because of our shared disease. Diabetics are not buddies. We’re not warm and fuzzy like cancer patients.

    True story about a former boss. He beat lung cancer twice (once in each lung). Somebody asked him if he was going to donate to a breast cancer charity. He got mad and said, “Bunch of whiners. Cut off their t*ts and they have a good chance to live. You know why you never see runs or rallies for lung cancer? Because almost everybody dies.”

    He is still alive. I should get him to speak at the next A-hole dinner.

  266. Tina says:

    I like the part of the book that said that he did not know boehner. This, despite a picture with biehner taken in 2013 by dan scavino, a key aide.

  267. Tina says:

    The book sounds like most segments over the past year from mika j9e scarfarce.

  268. lisab says:

    gorillas don’t usually fight

    now chimpanzees … they fight

  269. Tina says:

    Even the jebot media is throwing shade on wolffee.

    The jebot still laps it up.

  270. NYCmike says:


    Your old boss does have a point, albeit a bit harsh.

  271. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – People who love Trump will say the book is all lies. People who hate Trump will say the book is all true.

    Prediction – The truth is somewhere in between.

  272. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – The man survived an infection around his heart and 2 bouts with cancer. I used to tell him he scared me since he was clearly immortal.

  273. CashCow TM says:

    Hey Walt,

    You see where CG and Robbie are now responding to each other’s posts?

  274. Walt says:

    Cash Cow,

    Yeah…I notice that…


  275. Paul says:

    My wife preordered the book yesterday. I have that to look forward to. I personally would rather use the 20 bucks for a decent steak.

  276. lisab says:

    Prediction – The truth is somewhere in between.

    so he doesn’t watch the gorilla channel …

    he watches the monkees?

  277. lisab says:

    You see where CG and Robbie are now responding to each other’s posts?

    i noticed …

  278. NYCmike says:

    “I personally would rather use the 20 bucks for a decent steak.”

    -Ok, this one can think for himself!

  279. NYCmike says:

    -“The nation did not suddenly become liberal in 2008 or conservative in 2016. Rather, in both years it rejected blasé centrism — first trying out a left-wing deviation from establishmentarianism, then in frustration turning to a right-wing antidote to both the failed medicine and the original diseased status quo.”

    VDH on the mark again.

    Judge Trump by his results, instead of prejudging, as some do.

  280. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump was not elected because he had right wing agenda. He was elected because he was Trump.

  281. Albert Hodges says:

    I remember being here in the primaries and I remember the BS dumped on ANYONE who supported Trump.

    From a prolife perspective, President Trump has been 100% and his record is better than ANY President’s on that issue, including Reagan.

    When it comes to backing Israel, President Trump has been 100% and his record is better than ANY President’s including all Republicans.

    When it comes to religious freedom, President Trump has been 100% and NO President has done better.

    When it comes to working to return manufacturing jobs and actual economic power back to working men, NO President in 50 years has done more.

    When if comes to promoting CONSERVATIVE JUDGES, NO GOP President has done as much during a comparable length of time than President Trump.

    On EVERY F@@KING issue you people have claimed FOR YEARS you care about, President Trump has DELIVERED.

    Those who have been slow to support him here are saying more about their own character or priniciples OR LACK THEREOF than ANYTHING you can say about PDJT!

    And, wasn’t it nice to say and hear others say, MERRY CHRISTMAS?

    Make America Great Again!!!


  282. Bitterlaw says:

    How many abortions were performed while Trump gave money to Planned Parenthood and supported partial birth abortion. I say Trump is a vile scumbag on a personal level. Judge my character on that sentence.

    I voted for him to stop Hillary. I try to ignore him now.

  283. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not hear Merry Christmas more or less than last year.

  284. Cash Cow TM says:

    I remember Gil Hodges.
    Brooklyn Dodgers…

  285. Proud Obamacon says:

    LOL Albert Hodges still on his knees fantasizing about sucking the Groper’s little thingie.

    Approval in the 30s

    Losing the House, losing Senate too (WOW)

    Worshiping Putin

    Frustrated he can’t be Dictator


  286. lisab says:



    please stop calling our customer service to ask if we have the gorilla channel.

  287. Bitterlaw says:

    I would not watch a channel dedicated only to gorillas.

    Tigers? Yes.

    Sharks? Awesome.

  288. NYCmike says:

    -This is from August, I believe.

    The media is exactly like Robbie and “CG”.

  289. NYCmike says:

    Well said, Hodges.

  290. NYCmike says:

    I definitely heard “Merry Christmas” more this year!

    The best wish came from one of our customers who is Jewish. I wished him “Happy Chanukah” during that time. He replied “Thank You, and enjoy YOUR Merry Christmas, it is always a wonderful time of year!”.

    YES, he voted for Trump, and was vocal about it.

  291. Proud Obamacon says:

    So glad the Pussy Grabber overturned Obama’s EO banning saying “Merry Christmas”.. LOL

    Oh and he repealed Obamacare too!

    what a bunch of morons.


  292. NYCmike says:

    Go P.O,Go P.O., GO!

  293. NYCmike says:


  294. NYCmike says:


  295. NYCmike says:


  296. NYCmike says:



  297. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    286. “I voted for him to stop Hillary. I try to ignore him now.:

    He’s easy to ignore, just concentrate on the booming economy and the repeal of a lot of useless regulations.

    I don’t like him at all, but like what he is doing.

  298. Proud Obamacon says:

    And he also had the largest inauguration crowd ever! And of course 3 million illegal brown people voted against him in his landslide win!

  299. MichiganGuy says:

    President Trump has been in office one year and he’s already fixed Global Warming

  300. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The de-industrialization of California continues. Hundreds of jobs going from the Riverside area to Kentucky. Elon Musk had the good scene to built his battery plant in Nevada across the border from California.

    “A maker of lithium batteries is promising to provide an economic jolt to the Appalachian region, announcing plans Friday to relocate from California to Kentucky and build a factory employing hundreds of workers in an area reeling from the coal industry’s decline.
    EnerBlu Inc. announced it will invest $372 million and create 875 full-time jobs in eastern Kentucky with the production facility in Pikeville. The company also will move its headquarters from Riverside, California, bringing another $40 million investment and 110 administrative, research-and-development and executive jobs to Lexington, Kentucky’s second-largest city.
    The Kentucky Economic Development Finance Authority has given preliminary approval for incentives worth up to $30 million over 15 years for EnerBlu’s facilities.
    Republican Gov. Matt Bevin and U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers were among state and regional leaders who gathered in Pikeville to cheer EnerBlu’s announcement. The governor predicted the company’s arrival would transform a region where coal jobs have disappeared.”

  301. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yeah, and he eats big macs every day, so that means he has cured world hunger.


    Is it 2020 yet?

  302. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    289. “Approval in the 30s”

    Actually Trump’s polling numbers have recently risen about 6% in all the major polls.

    Rasmussen Reports 44
    Eonomist/YouGov 43
    Reuters/Ipsos 41
    Gallup 40

  303. lisab says:

    proud obamacon,

    the problem is you believe your own hype, and i am using “you” in the plural sense of dems.

    you believed your own hype about hillary winning, and you believe your own hype about trump now.

    you should not … things are not going your way.

    just today it came out that 2 million people are off foodstamps, that means they got jobs. people remember getting off of foodstamps, (not you of course).

    over the next couple of months people will be opening their year end statements for their 401ks and investment funds. they will be very happy.

    in february they will be getting a raise via the tax cuts.

    this is all very bad for the dems.

    but at least you know are saying that trump will be here until 2020. that is more than our other trolls will say.

  304. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Actually have to give the New York Times credit for exposing the rampant corruption in New York City. So much graft in Schumer/Cuomo/de Blasio’s leftist New York.

    “Trade unions, which have closely aligned themselves with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and other politicians, have secured deals requiring underground construction work to be staffed by as many as four times more laborers than elsewhere in the world, documents show.
    Construction companies, which have given millions of dollars in campaign donations in recent years, have increased their projected costs by up to 50 percent when bidding for work from the M.T.A., contractors say.
    Consulting firms, which have hired away scores of M.T.A. employees, have persuaded the authority to spend an unusual amount on design and management, statistics indicate.
    Public officials, mired in bureaucracy, have not acted to curb the costs. The M.T.A. has not adopted best practices nor worked to increase competition in contracting, and it almost never punishes vendors for spending too much or taking too long, according to inspector general reports.”

  305. lisab says:

    the dems are bleeding the middle and working classes

    and not just whites.

    if your message going into the midterms is:

    put us in charge of congress, we will raise your taxes, tank the market, outsource your jobs and start an impeachment process that will grind the country to a halt for the next two years

    you will lose your chance for gains.

  306. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    307. Agree with lisab. No matter what some of us think of Trump as an individual, I really like some of the things he is doing. He is strong on the economy and de-regulation.

  307. MichiganGuy says:

    “With the Trump administration and Beltway imposing a 15.5% tax on [repatriated] cash earnings vs. the previous 35% tax rate we expect a surge of overseas cash to come back into the US with large cap tech being the clear beneficiary for 2018 and beyond,” Daniel Ives, head of technology research at GBH Insights, wrote in a note to clients Thursday.

    Ives estimates large U.S. technology companies have $550 billion to $600 billion parked overseas. He predicts they will repatriate $300 billion to $400 billion in 2018, with Apple representing $200 billion of that amount. Ives believes companies will use 70 percent this time for capital returns and use the remaining 30 percent for acquisitions, investment spending, research and development.
    For all U.S. companies, Macquarie Research estimated roughly $860 billion will be repatriated this year.”

  308. Tina says:

    Quit cherry picking trumos approval numbers.

    I have the correct number and it is 29 percent.


  309. Tina says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    January 5, 2018 at 10:30 pm
    Breaking News – People who love Trump will say the book is all lies. People who hate Trump will say the book is all true.

    Prediction – The truth is somewhere in between.

    Not if you look at the criticisms from the authors fellow leftist friends, media accomplices. They are the ines throwing shade.

  310. MichiganGuy says:

    Jacksonville Jaguars owner will donate 1,000 playoff tickets to refugees from around the world and to Puerto Ricans displaced by Hurricane Maria who have settled in the Jacksonville area.
    Translation: NFL boycott has been so damaging to the NFL attendance that the Jacksonville Jaguars can’t even fill their stadium for a playoff game.

    In an effort to save face they are donating tickets to refugees. 😉

  311. Bitterlaw says:

    Real Translation – The Jags have sucked for so long that they did not have strong season ticket holder base. Season ticket holders usually have to pay for playoff tickets weeks before the end of the season. (If a team does not make the playoffs, the money is refunded or goes towards the following season’s ticket cost).

    Crappy teams with unexpected success often have hundreds of unsold playoff tickets. In 2008, Philadelphia Phillies fans were able to fly to Tampa and buy tickets at the gate to World Series games.

  312. Bitterlaw says:

    I just checked. Very few seats available for the Panthers-Seats game (2 good teams with loyal fans). More seats available for Falcons-Rams (LA has few NFL fans and the Rams just started playing there again).

  313. Bitterlaw says:

    I usually would not post a link to an individual but this obituary was public. His story should be known. He truly was a brave boy.

  314. Chicon says:

    Bitter, thanks for the perspective.

  315. Bitterlaw says:

    Don’t worry. Despite my rare moments of empathy and sympathy, I am still an A-hole.

  316. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not really “know” him but he was everywhere in my township and always surrounded by friends. I never saw him when he wasn’t smiling.

  317. mnw says:


    As u likely know, J’ville is a major military town. The Jags’ owner could’ve gotten tremendous publicity by donating those tickets to recuperating sailors, & families of those deployed, etc. That would have been a natural fit.

  318. mnw says:


    VDH is ALWAYS on the mark, imo.

  319. Wobbles says:

    “The author of the explosive new book about Donald Trump’s presidency acknowledged in an author’s note that he wasn’t certain all of its content was true.

    Michael Wolff, the author of “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House,” included a note at the start that casts significant doubt on the reliability of the specifics contained in the rest of its pages.

    Several of his sources, he says, were definitely lying to him, while some offered accounts that flatly contradicted those of others.

    But some were nonetheless included in the vivid account of the West Wing’s workings, in a process Wolff describes as “allowing the reader to judge” whether the sources’ claims are true.”

    I am a reader. It’s all true.

  320. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold prediction:

    Tina will accept any lefty who says the book is crap even if she previously never accepted anything the lefty said.

    Robbie will reject the criticism of any lefty who says the book is crap even if he previously accepted everything the lefty said.

  321. Tina says:

    Not so bold prediction.

    Bl will continue to talk about nothing.

  322. Tina says:

    nald J. Trump
    Now that Russian collusion, after one year of intense study, has proven to be a total hoax on the American public, the Democrats and their lapdogs, the Fake News Mainstream Media, are taking out the old Ronald Reagan playbook and screaming mental stability and intelligence…..

  323. NYCmike says:

    “Bl will continue to talk about nothing.”

    -Starting to think this is accurate.

    He probably couldn’t take a position even if he was practicing kamasutra with his wife.*

    *In what movie does Bill Murray receive a book about kamasutra?

  324. NYCmike says:

    “are taking out the old Ronald Reagan playbook and screaming mental stability and intelligence…..”

    -Right on the money!

    Bitterlaw to say it was somehow not the same in 3….2…..1…..

  325. Tina says:

    I will continue to focus on this.

    Remeber, a year ago, i said wiretapping and russian hoax. Now even more and more never trumpers concur with me, while many drats/jebots still believe the russian hoax.

  326. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina is becoming as delicate as Wes.

  327. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw is sure full of himself this morning.

  328. Tina says:

    Your the one that started it, bl.

    Maybe you can find a gubment job with mulehead and swampstein,

  329. MichiganGuy says:

    #322 mnw, nfl doesn’t care about the military. The military had to pay for every advertisement they had with them even though taxpayers fund the stadiums, antitrust law doesn’t apply to broadcast deals, the league enjoys nonprofit status. Not to mention the nfl proposed initiative to contribute $89 million to social justice causes is shifting money away from breast cancer and military support programs.

  330. mnw says:


    VDH is a third generation CA vintner. He has written extensively that he can’t make a dime any more as a vintner, thanks to the state laws & regs in CA.

    He says, “The only time I make any money now is when I’m sitting in my office typing*.”

    * I suspect his “typing” has generated a lot more cash than growing grapes ever did.

  331. mnw says:


    All true, I’m sure.

  332. NYCmike says:

    Just went from a Mattis interview and ended up watching several Kamala Harris videos – some say she is Presidential timber….I say she is kindling.

  333. NYCmike says:

    Is he a vintner? I knew he had a farm, but did not realize it was for the wine industry.

  334. Trump says:

    I’m smart. Very stable. Very stable genius!! I am!!!

  335. mnw says:


    Yes, vintner. Near Fresno. As mentioned, third generation.

    He has documented, based on decades of personal experience, how the state of CA has let the Central Valley go to hell. They just don’t care.

  336. Tina says:

    C valley, high crime rates, higher unemployment rates.

  337. mnw says:


    It’s an extraordinary story he tells: trash dumping constantly on his property, busted combines type trash. That’s your problem, Vic,

    Can’t use mailboxes any more because of constant theft. Has to drive to Post Office now.

    And as for state regs on every minute aspect of his business? Use your imagination.

  338. MichiganGuy says:

    Operation Condor – How NSA Director Mike Rogers Saved The U.S. From a Massive Constitutional Crisis…

    This outline is the story of how the FBI Counterintelligence Division and DOJ National Security Division were weaponized. This outline is the full story of what House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes is currently working to expose. This outline exposes the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.

  339. Paul says:

    MichiganGuy is trying on Tina’s tinfoil hat.

  340. lisab says:

    He probably couldn’t take a position even if he was practicing kamasutra with his wife.

    lol … post of the day!

  341. lisab says:

    .Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. Crooked Hillary Clinton also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, went down in flames. I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star…..

    ….to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius….and a very stable genius at that!

  342. lisab says:

    i don’t know if hillary would have been a better president

    but there is no way she would have been this entertaining …

    cg/robbie must be having seizures given the above tweet

  343. jason says:

    “MichiganGuy says:
    January 6, 2018 at 11:40 am

    Bitterlaw is sure full of himself this morning.”

    This happens with A-holes but it you give them a little room it is usually temporary.

  344. lisab says:

    no guesses on this one? it is a hard one

    “I’ve gone back and forth with my electoral map prediction, but I finished with Clinton 341 and Trump at 197.”

    50-50, robbie or corey?

  345. Tina says:

    Rotties new handle paul the lawn guy

  346. NYCmike says:


  347. Tina says:

    Bl, needs more fiber. I may be able to get him something at doj. I still have a contact or 2. But its in dc and he loves philly.

  348. Tina says:

    No doubt amb rogers saved the day. He moved the transition team meetings from trump tower to trumps nj golf course.

    No doubt clapper wanted to fire rogers for doing that.

    When the hoax ends, we have nunes, rogers, and flynn to thank.

  349. Tina says:

    And spooks out spooking wannabe leos that are lawyahs, and no offense to lawyahs like comedy and sjw yates.

  350. Paul says:

    Or Rogers was a co-conspirator.

  351. lisab says:


    you would not be wrong … corey’s final prediction in the hhr prediction contest was 341-197

    while robbie’s prediction was 323-25 …

    but … j’accuse!!!

    robbie posted it!

  352. Tina says:

    And Ig horowitz, who was also threatened to be fired by the doj deadenders. Sjw yates stated that he could not investigate the doj.

    Sjw yates wrote a 58 page legal opinion as tomwhy he coukd not. All sheot.

  353. Chicon says:

    Tina has taken a solid dose of abuse in the past several months for posting stuff about the FBI, Russia, etc. Well, it seems that a decent amount of it was pretty accurate. Props.

  354. Paul says:

    Abuse was well deserved.

  355. lisab says:

    Tina has taken a solid dose of abuse in the past several months for posting stuff about the FBI, Russia, etc. Well, it seems that a decent amount of it was pretty accurate.

    well both can be true 🙂

  356. Chicon says:

    Balance, Paulie. Try it sometime.

  357. mnw says:

    Yes, valuable stuff, Tina. Thanks.

    RE: dementia; illiterate; known by all as idiot, etc.

    I suppose the first reaction of most readers confronting this political porn is, “If you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich like him?”

    Hardly an original thought, but it fits the situation.

  358. Paul says:

    Tinfoil Tina asked for it.

  359. Paul says:

    Being mentally deranged may be an asset in making money.

  360. mnw says:

    Are you still here?

    Let me ask you a serious question: GFY.

    OK, it’s not a question. It’s a suggestion.

  361. Paul says:

    mnw is an idiotic moron who can’t face reality.

  362. Chicon says:

    Heck, even Robbie has been right about something. NYCMike can seach the archives in hopes of finding it.

  363. Paul says:

    mnw: moronic nit wit

  364. Chicon says:

    Well, maybe Paulie is an exception.

  365. lisab says:

    oh … funny story

    so i work with troubled teens a lot. sometimes they say really funny things.

    so this 15 yo boy is crushing on this 14 yo girl. so obviously i am going with the … “take it very slow both emotionally and physically” advice …

    he was saying how they were with a group of teens and the teens kind of split up into small groups and he was talking to this girl for about an hour … and during the hour his ELBOW touched her BOOB … TWICE!!!

    and then he texted her later and asked if she wanted to go to this Harry Potter event and she said “yesssssss” with a heart emoji …

    so he was wondering if she liked him …

    soooooooo … naturally i am dying … i am thinking, she gave you “elbow boob” or “el boobie” twice!!!!! of course she likes you !!!

    ah to be young again!

    i didn’t give anyone el boobie until college.

  366. mnw says:


    How much do you think a little twit on Obamacare knows about “making money”?

    Maybe if he got a second job, or a better one, he could stop describing himself as a “non-rich person.”

    But then trolly would have to give up spending his extra time here, calling everybody fools & morons. And indoctrinating Boy Scouts.

  367. Paul says:

    Sorry. I’m triggered by Trump’s genius tweet, today.

  368. Paul says:

    I’m triggered by the insane thought that there’s a small chance that Tina could be on to something.

  369. lisab says:

    How much do you think a little twit on Obamacare knows about “making money”?

    well he knows how to milk the system

  370. lisab says:

    Sorry. I’m triggered by Trump’s genius tweet, today.

    now that i believe!

    if that was your only assertion, that and that alone …

    i’d believe you!

  371. jason says:

    I see Corey is still trying to justify his “Hillary is better than Trump” by again conjuring this fantasy that Hillary is some kind of moderate compromiser. In the first place, Hillary is completely corrupt so its hard to see her as “better” than anyone else. Second, the narrative that she was less to the left of Obama is complete BS, in fact her agenda in 2016 was way to the left of his. In fact she adopted most of Bernie Sander’s socialist initiatives. Hillary campaigned on class warfare, war on the police, support for BLM, free college and student debt amnesty, immigration amnesty, prison “reform”, global warming, war on coal, war on fossil fuels, minimum wage hikes, leftists for the judiciary, higher taxes, entitlement expansions, etc.

    To suggest her campaign was moderate, compromising, middle of the road, non-ideological, etc. is complete fantasy. Hillary has always been a hard core, intransigent, doctrinaire leftist.

  372. MichiganGuy says:

    You have to love Twitter. Where else can you see Wendy’s battle Steak-umm. That was hilarious.

  373. jason says:

    Trump is certainly smarter than Paul.

    I know, its a really low bar, but I am no great fan of Trump.

  374. Paul says:

    “Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart.”

    Trump adding a valley girl “like” in his quote is pretty amusing. The guy is good at trolling us.

  375. Chicon says:

    374 – snap out of it. That’s what grown-ups do.

  376. lisab says:

    #384 i thought so, as i am sure he did

  377. Tina says:

    What is a 401k?


  378. lisab says:

    dems: hillary is the most intelligent candidate to ever run!

    but trump, who beat her handily is

    a.) an idiot

    and, at the same time

    b.) a mastermind who can collude with the russians but leave no evidence!

    do they not remember what they said before, or do they not know we can look it up?

  379. lisab says:

    if some boy had elbow boobed me when i was 14

    he would have elbowed me in the chest like in roller derby

  380. lisab says:

    teenage boy: would you like to go to the dance with me this friday?

    lisa: owwwwwwwww … hey … watch the elbows pal …

  381. Chicon says:

    385 – in addition, she lost to a guy who was clearly mentally ill but was nonetheless able to hide this mental illness from the public throughout the campaign. Quite the feat.

  382. mnw says:

    Trump is mentally deranged. Melania is a high-end hooker. Barron is autistic.

    Behold the left!

  383. jason says:

    Don’t worry Paul, you weren’t as wrong as Paul Krugman.

    “Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.”

  384. Tina says:

    Mulehead investigating Ivanka for saying hight to the 2 russian, fusion, papadope, etc stooges.

  385. Tina says:

    Paul Sperry’s Tweets
    Paul Sperry
    Paul Sperry
    DEVELOPING: Senate Judiciary Committee has discovered “credible evidence of a CRIME” committed by dirty Hillary DOSSIER author Christopher STEELE in his dealings with the FBI … declassified memo detailing the alleged crime forthcoming …


  386. Blobbie says:

    net neutrality casualty:

    you can no longer get the gorilla channel unless you pay extra

  387. NYCmike says:

    There is much more parking in Brooklyn ever since all of those people were killed by net neutrality and the tax cut.

  388. Tina says:

    Are blobbie ans slobbie bannon related?

  389. NYCmike says:

    -Check out the last one…..could you imagine how torturous the last year would have been with that person as President!

  390. lisab says:


    did you see my answer #358

    “corey” made the prediction

    but “robbie” made the post

  391. NYCmike says:


  392. NYCmike says:


  393. NYCmike says:


    Yes. I am attempting to recover from my sadness by looking at Hillary in a pants suit……it worked!

  394. NYCmike says:

    Those 2 really seem to support each other….beautiful to watch, actually.

  395. lisab says:


    how about the title

    from russia with love!

  396. lisab says:

    i love how the trolls think that telling everyone

    they got beat by the russians and a mentally disabled person who did not want to win

    is somhow a selling point

  397. Bitterlaw says:

    It was great to feel so many breasts with the elbows and forearms in crowded college parties. Yeah. I said it.

  398. NYCmike says:

    Lots of good ones, lisab!

    I liked “The Small Hand That Rocks The Cradle”.

  399. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw takes a position….on surreptitious limb-boob-bumping.

  400. NYCmike says:

    Off to dinner!


  401. lisab says:


    he was so excited that he touched a girl’s boob, twice, with his elbow …

    i didn’t even know that was a thing

    boys are so weird

  402. lisab says:

    it was all i could do not to laugh

    which would have crushed his ego for life

  403. Bitterlaw says:

    Boys are easy to understand. Boobs are awesome.

  404. lisab says:

    it was also a million times better than the stories i normally hear,

    e.g. i’m sleeping on my friends couch because my mom kicked me out

  405. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I commit to many positions:

    Trump is a vile scumbag.

    It is better to have Trump as President than Hillary as President.

  406. lisab says:

    Boys are easy to understand. Boobs are awesome

    that’s what i said!!!

    i was recently chatting in a chat room to this girl, who got in a car accident about six months ago, and had part of her leg amputated.

    now she will be going to college in a week, and even though she was always considered a “pretty girl” and never had any trouble attracting boys, she was afraid that her missing leg would end her social life …

    i told her unless the boy was an athlete looking to date another athlete, i did not think a missing LEG would be a problem … at least not for the boys i knew

  407. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Did anyone really think that a book filled with information from Bannon would not say crazy things? If the liberal press believes the information in the book is accurate, they must of have high opinion of Bannon’s truthfulness.

  408. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab – If she is pretty and outgoing, it may take years for a guy to notice. 2 years in, he might think, “Great rack…wait. When did she lose part of her leg?….Still a great rack.”

  409. Walt says:

    married men and married women,

    please explain why my wife answers my questions with riddles.

    Examples from around Christmas time:

    1. Is this enough lettuce, etc. I have mixed up for the salad?
    Wife reply: 11 people will be here for dinner.
    Do you want me to leave these cherry tomatoes whole or cut them in half?
    Wife reply: I put another box of cherry tomatoes on the counter
    Where do you want me to put these potatoes?
    Wife reply: The onions are in the laundry room.

    Wife asks me to go get some potatoes.
    I ask : How many potatoes?
    Wife reply: I am going to mash them.
    Do all wives give long and puzzling answers to simple questions that can often be answered with one or two words or even yes or no?
    Or is it just my wife?

  410. lisab says:

    in college there was a beautiful girl who was very outgoing who unfortunately had diabetes, the same as you.

    she was very open about it, almost to the point where she would say, “hi i’m carolyn, nice to meet you, i have diabetes”

    cute guys fell all over her …. this was well before dating apps so guys had to actually approach her and risk getting publicly shot down. all guys saw was that she was fun and pretty.

  411. lisab says:

    i don’t remember her name though, probably not carolyn

  412. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – Take off your skirt, you candy ass whiner. Real men don’t make or eat salad.

  413. NYCmike says:

    My wife said “Is she crazy?”.

    I told her “She travels with an old HOBO and Ca$h Cow.”

    My wife said “You’re crazy.”

  414. NYCmike says:

    I eat salad, and quiche.


  415. Bitterlaw says:

    As with many things, I am an odd contradiction. I never hide my condition. However, I feel deep shame over it.

    I am not sure if I will tell my new boss. Of course, if my blood sugar crashes, it looks like I am drunk. Not a good impression to make.

  416. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Do you even remember being a man?

  417. NYCmike says:

    That was funny, Bitterlaw.

    My wife allows me 2 Days a year. My birthday, and the first day of summer, the longest day of the year.

    I am blessed.

  418. mnw says:

    Wobbles, Paul, CG & TIPW:


    It’s OVAH!



    Mix & match to suit, you witty socks, you.

  419. Tina says:

    “Just so you understand, there’s been no collusion. There’s been no crime. And in theory, everybody tells me I’m not under investigation. Maybe Hillary is, I don’t know, but I’m not,” the president said addressing reporters at Camp David.

    This is so one sided


  420. mnw says:


    Amazing the trolls constantly regurgitate “LOL!!!”, and they still think TRUMP is an idiot, & that they’re clever, original, & (of course) SMART.

    I love how Paultroll opines That “being mentally deranged can be an asset to getting rich.”

    What do you suppose he bases that on? We know he ain’t “rich,” so maybe he just decided it would be cute to post that? Or he knows lots of mentally deranged rich people?

    Query: as a proud member of Zero’s free zh*t army (“my Obamacare works great!”), how many rich people, deranged or otherwise, does wittle Paultroll interact with in the course of a typical troll week?

  421. Walt says:

    You all are not a damn bit of help.

  422. jason says:

    Chiefs lose 6th straight playoff game at home.

    On 4th and 10 with game on the line dumbest coach in the league calls for a 30 yard pass down the middle into double coverage.

    Bitter to say Reid is still a genius in 3, 2, 1…

  423. Cash Cow TM says:


    a kraut-mas
    a ram, a tusk

  424. mnw says:


    Being a Chiefs fan is like being an Iggles fan: teaches humility.

  425. Bitterlaw says:

    What time are the Bronco’s playing?

    Never once in 14 years did I say Reid was a genius. Not once.

    I’m sure Jason would have preferred a 61 yard field goal attempt. The pass hit the receiver in the hands. Not Reid’s fault.

    I guess it is Reid’s fault that Mariotta completed a TD pass to himself off a batted ball. I guess it is Reid’s fault that his best defense end rusher went out. It must be Reid’s fault that that the core player of his offence, Kelce, went out in the first half with a concussion on a play that should have drawn a flag and gotten the Titan player ejected for a deliberate late helmet to helmet hit.

    I still say that the Dumbest Coach of the 2017 season goes to the Bronco’s head coach for thinking any of their awful QBs could start a game.

    Why is Jason a Broncos’ fan anyway? Did he ever live in Colorado or is he another front-runner like Wes and the 49ers?

    GFY and your “Ma, we caught a Bitterfish” comment that is ready to go.

  426. Bitterlaw says:

    MD is complaining about the weakest job growth since 2010.

    He also ordered a copy of the anti-Trump book.

    Jason – We have clearly lost one of our favorite A-holes.

  427. jason says:

    Ma, the big Bitterfish swallowed the bait knowing it was bait, that’s how good the bait was.

  428. mnw says:

    MD has TDS, then. Derangement syndrome.

  429. jason says:

    What time are the Bronco’s playing?”

    Zzzzzzz… when the Eagles put together a bunch of winning seasons, division wins, conference wins and SBs like the Broncos, you can dump on them.

  430. jason says:

    “I’m sure Jason would have preferred a 61 yard field goal attempt. ”

    Not me. I wanted the Chiefs to lose, so the stupid play was great for me.

    The Chiefs only needed 10 yards, a 30 yd pass into double coverage was not a percentage play, not with a QB like Smith who can scramble on a busted play.

    “The pass hit the receiver in the hands”

    That’s your benchmark for a good play? Wow. I am trying to think what sport touching the ball without catching it counts.”

    As I said when the Chiefs were 6-0 and everyone was talking SB, the dumbest coach in the league will find a way to sink the team when push comes to shove.

  431. jason says:

    The Denver coach is in over his head, but he is not Reid’s league yet. He needs about another 10 years of horrible clock management and bad decisions to be in the running.

  432. mnw says:

    Ryan once again talking about bringing back… earmarks! I guess they must be as addictive as heroin.

    Apparently no one told him that there’s a challenging election coming up in 11 months. Earmarks! Just the ticket for GOP victory!


  433. Cash Cow TM says:

    I suspect the suspect
    wound the wound
    as the dove dove down as it
    would repeatedly buffet the buffet
    and bow with a bow on its beak.

    In a minute, the minute mineral
    lead took the lead over the other metals.

    He wondered if he does what the does do
    and went on a tear with a tear in his eye.

  434. Tina says:


    Mega Demented.

  435. Tina says:

    Well, mnw, i do not think he suffers from a mental illness. This is just the defaukt position for them and the jebots since muh russian collapsed.

    Sure, Mulehead may get a couple more process crimes on matters unrelated to swampsteins order.

  436. Tina says:

    By the way, nunes has all documents as well as the ban records.

    If there were nothing, schiff for brains would be leaking like a sieve. Of course, he may be muted due to the apparent sting, where he was caught leaking to cn and n, while donnie jr was testifying.

  437. Tina says:

    To the jebots, trump is not under investigation, maybe hillary is, I do not know.

    This is both funny and serious. Take him literally or maybe not literally.

    I would suspect that humas is in deep sheot.

  438. Tina says:

    And the allegation that sessions is not doing anything does not appear correct.

    What sessi9ns is doing is correct, he is not trying cases, or potential cases in front of the media

  439. Tina says:

    Sloppy Bannon cost us Alabama, stated trump today,

  440. Bitterlaw says:

    Front runner fan jason somehow ignores the fact that the main target for a 10 yard play was undergoing concussion testing during the second half.

    He also ignores the fact that Reid does not coach the defense or that time management was not a factor in the game.

  441. Chicon says:

    447 – correct. Something new, an AG following protocol.

  442. Tina says:

    This is congresspersons stefanik questioning comedy back in march. comedy was clearly not prepared and hid the wiretapping from congress, despite his requirement to inform the congress,

    Notice the rooster, aka howdy gowdy, try to run interference.

    She destroys him in her questioning.

    Incidentally, she was born in the 1980s and has a sharp mind.

  443. Tina says:

    When the hoax is ovah, I also need to add Stefanik to my list of heroes, which already includes Rogers and Flynn.

  444. Tina says:

    Jake Tapper
    Replying to @brianstelter and @cnni
    Having many errors but “ringing true” is not a journalistic standard.
    3:05 PM · Jan 6, 2018

    Flapper vs Seltzer.

  445. Bitterlaw says:

    I respect Jake Tapper as a journalist. I don’t think Tina does.

  446. Walt says:


    I make salads whenever told to do so.

    I once made a salad for me and put a donut on top of it.

    I eat salads when I feel like it.

    GFY. 🙂

  447. Cash Cow TM says:

    More than 800%
    JANUARY 5, 2018
    Annual increase in Wyoming’s revenue from leasing land to oil and gas companies. The hike is largely due to rebounding oil prices, which hit record lows in 2016, and the Trump administration being friendlier to oil and gas companies than Obama. The state, however, still faces a more than $700 million budget gap.
    Source: the Casper Star-Tribune

    JANUARY 4, 2018
    Coal mine workers who died on the job last year — up from nine the year before, which was a record low.
    Source: NPR

    JANUARY 3, 2018
    State lawmakers facing allegations of sexual harassment who have resigned, announced they will resign, been ousted from a leadership position or otherwise punished since October.
    Source: Stateline

    JANUARY 2, 2018
    Number of races for governor this year. Republicans have 26 offices to defend, Democrats have nine and one governor up for reelection is an independent.
    Source: Governing

    DECEMBER 29, 2017
    State funding for New Year’s Eve security in Las Vegas this year, which is almost triple the amount Nevada spent the year before. The increased vigilance follows the October mass shooting in the city that left 58 concertgoers dead.
    Source: the Las Vegas Review-Journal

    1962 and 1963
    DECEMBER 22, 2017
    Last time, until recently, that life expectancy in the U.S. dropped two years in a row. It declined in 2015 and again in 2016, partially fueled by a 21 percent increase in fatal drug overdoses.
    Source: NBC News

    DECEMBER 28, 2017
    Homeless people in America in 2016, which is a 1 percent increase from the year before and the first time the national count went up since 2010.
    Source: Tribune News Service

    7 years old
    DECEMBER 27, 2017
    Age that kids are required to start school in 14 states. In one of them, Indiana, the top education official wants to lower the compulsory school age to 5 years old.
    Source: The Indianapolis Star

    DECEMBER 20, 2017
    Official death toll in Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria. But on Monday, the island’s governor ordered a recount because investigations from news outlets have found that the number of fatalities could actually exceed 1,000.
    Source: CNN

    DECEMBER 19, 2017
    Donations raised by the state of Arizona to build a fence along parts of the border. The lawmaker who started the fund six years ago predicted it would collect $50 million. The last of the money was used earlier this month, but none of it went to building a fence.
    Source: The Arizona Republic

    $100 to $300
    DECEMBER 18, 2017
    Bonuses that will soon be offered to teachers in Wichita, Kan., for recruiting friends or acquaintances to apply for hard-to-fill positions. The extra cash will only go to teachers, though, if their referrals get the job and last one year.
    Source: The Wichita Eagle

    $63.5 million
    DECEMBER 15, 2017
    Money tourists spent in Wyoming while visiting the state this summer to see the total solar eclipse. That translates to $3.7 million in state and local government tax revenue.
    Source: AP/US News & World Report

  448. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump on Bannon being dumped:

    “Michael Wolff is a total loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring and untruthful book,” Trump said. “He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired and begged for his job. Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. Too bad!”

    Bannon once had defenders on this board; is anyone going to speak up in favor of this poor dog,…or whatever you want to call him?

  449. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Quote from the “fake and funny” Sean Spicer:

    “The people that walk around dressed as vaginas are questioning someone else’s(Trump’s) mental state.”

  450. Bitterlaw says:

    The Trumpers now turn on Bannon. This should actually make Corey and Robbie feel relieved. It proves that Trump does not define or have a grip on the GOP. There is no Trump Movement. Trump’s influence ends the day he leaves office.

  451. Bitterlaw says:

    Today is the 35th anniversary of my diagnosis of diabetes. GFY.

  452. jason says:

    How are you going to celebrate?

  453. jason says:

    Earmarks coming back?

    I hear Ron Paul is running for Congress again based on the rumor.

  454. Tina says:

    Many of the accounts of what has happened in the Trump White House are in conflict with one another; many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue,” Wolff wrote. “Those conflicts, and that looseness with the truth, if not with reality itself, are an elemental thread of the book.”

    And Dan Rather believed that Bush went awol in the forged memo.

  455. Tina says:

    This is funny.

    The New York Times
    President Trump, in an extraordinary defense of his fitness for office, described himself as “a very stable genius”

  456. Tina says:

    Chuck Woolery
    So here’s what we have. #MichaelWollf says #Trump didn’t want to be President, yet according to the Democrats he Colluded with the Russians to win the Election. Are you beginning to get the picture?

    Can the jebots reconcile this?

  457. jason says:

    Front runner fan jason somehow ignores the fact that the main target for a 10 yard play was undergoing concussion testing during the second half.”

    So the Chiefs have a coach that only has ONE option for a 10 yard passing play?


    Reid is 1-4 in post seasons games with the Chiefs, but fortunately it’s someone else’s fault.

    Second half stats

    Team Points scored Yards gained First downs
    Chiefs 0 41 3
    Titans 19 270 18

    Oh yeah, Reid is only responsible for offense, not defense.

    I think this Eagles fan says it best over at the KC Star comments section:

    “As an Eagles fan, I feel your pain! Andy comes up small in big moments”

  458. Wobbles says:

    Can the jebots reconcile this?”

    Yes, absolutely.

    Trump was afraid he was going to win the election, and since he didn’t want to win he colluded with the Russians, because the Russians have very little experience with elections, and therefore would cause him to lose.

    I hope it’s clear now.

  459. Wobbles says:

    I am now convinced the Russians helped Trump in the primaries too.

    Somehow they convinced 17 other R candidates including Trump that Jeb was not the unbeatable “clear the field and suck up all the money” candidate.

    Since this was obvious to me and at least one other person on this board, only the full weight of the Russian Empire could have convinced anyone that Jeb was, in fact, a weak, unprepared, and uninspiring candidate.

    The Russians kille Jeb.

  460. Bitterlaw says:

    I will celebrate my diabetes anniversary by coaching my first Rec basketball game of the season. I will drink Coke while pacing the sidelines.

  461. Bitterlaw says:

    And yet, Reid beat the Broncos twice this season. How could that happen?

  462. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – How did you become a Broncos fan? 32 teams (maybe 30 when you came to the US) to choose from and you picked that one. Did the Rockies remind you of the Andes?

  463. mnw says:

    I was a Chiefs fan from the day Lamar Hunt moved them up from TX, esp during the Len Dawson/Hank Steam era. Loved to see my chefs matriculate the bowl on down the field.

    I quit because kneeling.

  464. Chicon says:

    Church will be out soon. Robbie will be here shortly preaching tolerance and forgiveness.

  465. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – Sorry to hear that. You missed some great games throughout the league this season.

  466. Tina says:

    Poor Fake Flapper.

    No contest.

    Stephen Miller wins.

  467. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    ICYMI: Acting ICE director wants politicians in sanctuary cities charged with crimes. They should also be held liable for any crimes illegal aliens commit against American citizens in their “sanctuary city”.

    I am triggered by this.


  468. mnw says:


    I didn’t miss anything I didn’t want to miss.

  469. Tina says:

    Jake Tapper: “I’m trying to get to the issue of the president’s fitness”

    Stephen Miller: “I’m trying to get to the issue of your fitness”


    How you handle the posers from the media.

  470. mnw says:


    Precisely. I like this guy.

    I’m not sure why he’d agree to be on that show in the first place, though. What is the upside?

  471. Chicon says:

    I suspect people will see what they want to see in the Miller v. Tapper dust-up.

  472. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m not sure why he’d agree to be on that show in the first place, though. What is the upside?

    If you don’t go on the shows then you completely surrender the opportunity to reach a different audience.

  473. Tina says:

    They have to represent.

    An hour show claimi g trump is a nazi, mentally unfit, and has super secret ties to russians, woukd be boring.

    The media is defending a fake book, whose author admits it is fake, without realizing that they have fallen into trumps trap.

  474. Tina says:

    Flapper is mad because he was in line to be her thighness press secretary.

    Cnn is just garbage.

  475. Tina says:

    So, swampstein is allowing mulehead to look at invanka saying hi and bye to the russian, fusion cabal in the elevator and mukehead is look8ng at an initial draft of trumps firing memo of comedy, even though both swampstein and jeff sessions provided their opinions about firing comedy, i am sure that there are a host of drafts in executive memorandum.

  476. Tina says:

    All we need is the jebot to explain why it is ok for obumbler to fire the fbi head in a 2011memorandum vs 2016 firing of comedy?

  477. Phil says:

    So the Yale Psychologist who met with Democrats in congress about Trump’s “mental health” now believes Trump should be forced to submit to examination to determine mental fitness to serve. He worries, however, that it might look like a coup.

    Might? LOL These people are NUTS.

  478. Phil says:

    Collusion didn’t work out so now full pivot to “mental health”

    This is going to be entertaining to watch.

  479. Tina says:

    I wonder hiw many people will charge brilliant psycho with a Goldwater violation, thereby calling into play whether the psycho can have a psycho license.

    It would seem that psycho has provided a medical opinion without exqmining the patient.


  480. Phil says:

    Anyone want to go out on a limb and guess this psychologist’s party affiliation?


  481. Chicon says:

    491 – I’ll go with Socialist. Perhaps Communist.

  482. Phil says:

    ….although there is a chance the guy is one of Robbie’s Never Trump “Republican” pals.

  483. Chicon says:

    Robbie, what will be the next talking point after muh mental subsides?

  484. Chicon says:

    Remember, Trump and his family only ran to pump up the brand. He really did not want to win. So much so that he colluded with the Russians to help him win. Wait….what? …..never mind….

  485. Chicon says:

    Also, remember that Trump is really a democrat trying to push a liberal agenda. That’s why he is pushing the Pence agenda. Wait……what?…..never mind……

  486. NYCmike says:

    That Tapper-Miller interview was…..

  487. Chicon says:

    Remember, too, that Trump was clearly mentally unstable prior to the election. So much so the he was able to easily hide it from the electorate. Wait….what?…..never mind.

  488. NYCmike says:

    “Wait….what? …..never mind….”


  489. NYCmike says:

    Agree with Shapiro….Huck-Sanders should have been on the show, not Miller…..but then again, they got to where they are somrhow.

  490. NYCmike says:

    MD was probably flipping out watching it….

  491. lisab says:

    notice how all the trolls came out with the mental illness meme the same day

  492. mnw says:

    I don’t think there is any missed opportunity whatsoever in de facto boycotting CNN.

  493. Tina says:

    Leftists now demanding Stephen Miller be banned from TV after Jake Tapper CNN debacle.
    Seth Abramson
    Please RETWEET if you want TV networks to stop booking Trump

  494. mnw says:

    Come on now, Tina

    Jake merely wanted to have an “honest conversation” about Trump’s sanity, that’s all.

    What’s the problem with just having an “honest conversation” with a liberal anyway, huh? It’s always worked out so well before.

  495. Wes says:

    Basically Dems found a psychiatrist to do their dirty work who provides Trump with the ammo to attack their intended meme.


  496. mnw says:

    Be nice if Krauthammer would call BS on all this.

  497. Wes says:

    You know, I’m no Trumpkin and think the President has an at best uneven temperament, but I can’t abide these attacks on his sanity. It smells like desperation.

  498. mnw says:

    For you younger posters, the DEMs ran this same “crazy! dangerous!” play on Goldwater in ‘64.

    It seriously damaged the reputation of psychiatry as science.

  499. Wes says:

    Hillary is a solipsistic, megalomaniac with exactly no qualms about destroying anyone who gets in her way. Trump, though, is the one Democrats think is insane.


  500. Wes says:

    I wasn’t alive for its initial airing, but I saw the infamous “Daisy Girl” ad, Mnw.

  501. Wes says:

    Ironically while Johnson accused Goldwater of being an unstable potential catalyst nuclear war, Johnson himself caused the deaths of thousands of Americans by gross mismanagement of Vietnam.

  502. Wes says:

    Basically after backing a disaster in Roy Moore and slinging mud against one of Trump’s son, Steve Bannon, having made himself in just a couple of months a pariah in politics, is trying to walk back his own stupidity:

    It’s not going to work, Steve. You’re an idiot whose own ego has destroyed your standing in political circles.

  503. mnw says:

    I saw daisycutter the first time around. They took it down because of the outcry against it, but it ran long enough to serve its purpose.

    I was thinking more of an open letter signed by 100 psychiatrists (if I remember correctly) diagnosing Goldwater as mentally unstable. None of these psychiatrists had ever actually MET Goldwater, which I believe is traditionally thought to be useful BEFORE making a diagnosis… (quack!…quack!)

    Goldwater was a general officer in the Air Force, which tries to avoid promoting psychopaths to positions of high command, but… his military record counted for nothing. Poor crazy man.

  504. lisab says:

    the bigger issue i see,

    is that the dems are setting up a situation where their political opponents have no reason at all to accept the next election if the dem candidate wins.

    i am sure they are thinking, “we don’t care we will just force through everything we want whether they like it or not”

    that was why they ended the filibuster, they thought hillary would win and they would just force through everything they wanted … and that backfired on them.

  505. lisab says:

    gop voters also have every reason to come out to vote in 2018

    the dems are showing they don’t want to compromise. the second they take the house, trump impeachment will begin, “because he is crazy, or russia, or whatever they can come up with”

    they will reverse the tax cuts, they will reimpose the regulations, and they will reinstate the obamacare tax … that is what the dems are saying by the “resistance”

    john locke warned about this very thing in his second treatise. he warned that as soon as one side refuses to accept elections, the society will fall apart.

  506. lisab says:

    the appropriate thing for the dems to do is just run on their own policies

    explain why they should be given a chance in 2018/2020

    and give an alternative vision to the people.

  507. Tina says:

    Nancy Pelosi
    The bigoted world view that Bannon pushed remains at the WH. White supremacists still have the ear of Trump and are shaping national policy through their hate-filled lenses. Yes, that means Stephen Miller who must be removed.
    9:26 AM – Jan 7, 2018

  508. NYCmike says:

    “the appropriate thing for the dems to do is just run on their own policies”

    -There is a first time for everything!

  509. mnw says:

    Carter also tried out “too dangerous to trust with the button” on Reagan in 1980. Remember? Carter: “I was talking with my daughter Amy recently about nuclear war…”

  510. NYCmike says:

    -Just saw this linked on Instapundit…..interesting, because maybe their is a deeper reason for Sessions to have brought up this law which allows the feds to go after legal-state-pot.

  511. mnw says:

    I hope others who voted for Trump are as pizz*d about all this as I am.

    SOTU will be the re-set button.

  512. lisab says:

    I hope others who voted for Trump are as pizz*d about all this as I am

    as i wrote above,

    it is a bad situation when one party is saying

    “sure we will have an election, if we win, fine … we will do whatever we want, and you will have to comply or get fined or even go to prison …

    but if you win … then we will reject the results, try to overthrow the government, not follow the laws you pass, and once we get in again, repeal everything you did and impose our will.

  513. lisab says:

    that really has not happened in our history since reconstruction

    ever since then until obamacare, there has always been some semblance of power sharing

  514. Phil says:



  515. Tina says:

    During a radio interview on WMAL legal analyst and former U.S. Attorney General for Washington DC, Joe DiGenova, specifically highlights the DOJ National Security Division head John P Carlin and his role in the 2016 FISA warrant. Other than within our own research few people are paying attention to the DOJ-NSD side.

    Additionally, and in complete concurrence with our prior research, DiGenova states first-hand knowledge that FISA Court Judge Rudolph Contreras did not recuse himself – but was rather forcibly recused from the Michael Flynn case by either U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts or the aggregate FISA court.

  516. Tina says:

    Source crh

  517. Chicon says:

    Tina, who is crh?

  518. mnw says:

    DiGenova is the former U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia.

    Impressive fellow.

  519. MichiganGuy says:

    * Special Election March 13 *

    PA#18 Special Election:

    Rick Saccone (R) 46% (+12)
    Conor lamb (D) 34%
    Undecided 20%

    GravisMarketing poll 1/3-5

  520. mnw says:

    Thx, MG.

  521. mnw says:

    If the GOP holds that (very red), seat, that ought to shut some loud mouths up.

  522. jason says:

    Saints dodge bullet by stupidly going for it on 4th and 2 at midfield with less than 2 minutes to go and the Panthers without time outs. Idiot on other side intercepts ball instead of batting it down, costs the Panthers 16 yards.

    Then needing a TD Newton loses down and yardage with intentional grounding, and on 4th down and 6 seconds to go instead of throwing a Hail Mary into end zone keeps it for a sack and end of game.

    Brilliant coaching!

  523. Marco Rubio says:

    Thank you for your thupport!

  524. Tina says:

    Cth, chicon, sorry, conservative tree house, he links the radio interview from DiGenova, who is married to v. toensing

  525. Tina says:

    There are whispers that lorettta lynch aka eric holder 2.0 had to sign offf on the 2nd fisa request due to the fact the first request was denied by the court.

    Again whispers .

  526. Tina says:

    Probably more stories about lynchs role, and ultimately the obumblers role in the illegal wiretapping.

  527. Chicon says:

    Twice in the past several months I’ve seen Trey Gowdy during an interview refer to knowing the real reason Comey decided to take the decision on whether to prosecute away from the AG’s office. Perhaps we’ll know it one day, too.

    Btw, The Rooster is another fine nickname from Tina.

  528. Tina says:

    Mark Levin radio interview w/ John Solomon..1/5/18
    Per J.S….
    “I’m hearing from multiple sources that there are other Senior FBI and Justice Department Officials for whom they found politically charged emails suggesting that they didn’t like Donald Trump and might have been out to get Donald Trump and there/their going to come forward in the next few weeks.”
    Looks like Petey Stroke is going to have to share the spotlight.

    More folks like pete the cheats, mistress, and mccabe?.

  529. Cash Cow TM says:

    We need a nickname for DJTrump.

    Here are some suggestions…

    –The Genius
    –Mr. Big Hands
    –Mr. DonDispicable
    –Best President–EVAH
    –The Orange Roughy-ian
    –The Joker
    –At Least He’s Not Hillary

  530. Cash Cow TM says:


  531. Cash Cow TM says:

    –the B.I.T.C.H.
    (Bull In The China Hutch?)

  532. Chicon says:

    Cow, hard to beat Obamacon’s name for him – the Orange P___y Grabber.

  533. lisab says:

    i like


    he is a complete moron who likes the gorilla channel …

    but … he is a billionaire, who beat the most corrupt democrat candidate since jfk/lbj worked with the mafia to beat clinton, and 16 other accomplished politicians


    married a model, has very accomplished children, got the country a huge tax cut, moved our embassy to jerusalem, got 4% growth for the first time in 10 years, beat isis, got rid of the obamacare tax, single handedly hurt the nfl, and reduced foodstamps by 2 million people.

  534. lisab says:

    ” since jfk/lbj worked with the mafia to beat clinton”

    ** to beat nixon of course **

  535. lisab says:

    we could also add anwar, the oil pipeline, a revitalized coal industy, a revitalized oil industry, a general reduction in regulations, a stock market increase (or bubble), the lowest black unemployment rate since records have been kept

    and as an added bonus

    has given sjws hives for two years.

    rainman is forest gumping his way to success

    he even called the leader of north korea short and fat …

    now i cannot say that these were all good things …

    but i would have loved to see the reaction of the north korean translator who had to translate trump’s twitter account

  536. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile, California drought report.

    After a aberrant wet year, California as gone back into permanent drought. Climate activists solemnly informed the state that 2018 would be another drought year, and: “we had better start acting as though drought was going to be a normal, not abnormal, part of western water’s future.”

    So as we prepare for little water. . . oh wait, a massive winter storm is heading into California, and they are evacuating burnt areas in Ventura County as a precaution. And there are more storms coming behind it. . .

  537. jason says:

    Should we sacrifice SanDiegoCitizen for the good of the country?

  538. jason says:

    Maybe he can get the last flight out before CA burns down on falls into the ocean.

  539. Bitterlaw says:

    My wife wished me good luck. I said I felt like I was going to my own funeral. She is not happy. At least she has has a city office and is still a real lawyer.

  540. NYCmike says:

    ” I said I felt like I was going to my own funeral.”

    -“I felt”? Seriously?!?

    Pansy ass! Stop your whinging and get to work, shyster!


  541. NYCmike says:

    Has Oprah replaced Trump as President yet?

  542. NYCmike says:

    D L V ! !

  543. Chicon says:

    I’m sad. I thought The Rock was going to me the next President.

  544. MichiganGuy says:

    Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Bonus Ticker: At least 1,003,547 Americans (and counting) will receive special bonuses from their employer thanks to tax reform

    “Just five days into 2018 the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act has changed the nation for the better. American companies are raising wages, paying bonuses, expanding operations and increasing 401(k) contributions.

  545. mnw says:

    BL 552

    Very harsh. Most sincere good luck today, though.

  546. NYCmike says:

    2020 race for President:

    The Rock

  547. ssq says:

    Only Trump gets a VP?

    How unfair.

  548. jason says:

    Bitter wants a medal for having to go to a good job in a nice area.

    What an A-hole!

  549. Wobble says:

    According to Lord Arsehat, they are burning secret Russian documents before Mueller can get hold of them.

  550. Wobbles says:

    Wobble is an impostor!

  551. mnw says:


  552. jason says:

    If Oprah becomes President, NYC will have his wish.

    I will go back to where I came from.

  553. jason says:

    Jason – How did you become a Broncos fan? 32 teams (maybe 30 when you came to the US) to choose from and you picked that one. Did the Rockies remind you of the Andes?”

    They have the coolest logo in football.

  554. NYCmike says:

    Make sure you leave the llama!


  555. Bitterlaw says:

    That is a big guy on a small horse. Reminded me of Jason riding a llama. I think he was riding it.

  556. NYCmike says:

    Key words:

    “Article I, Section 1 of the United States Constitution provides that: “All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”

    Legislative powers are the power to make and repeal laws. Those powers are not vested in the executive branch, which includes the president ….”

  557. NYCmike says:

    “This is basic civics stuff, but it seems to have eluded a lot of people. People such as Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colo.,….” as well as “CG”, Robbie, et al.

  558. NYCmike says:

    Imagine, a law professor, with a pretty widely-read blog, having such RIDICULOUS ideas about how government works!

  559. DW says:

    Dead here this morning

  560. Chicon says:

    Trolls waiting for new talking points.

  561. Phil says:

    Troll meeting this morning on pivot from Russia to Trump is crazy and will destroy the human race talking points. Special guest speakers Joe and Mika.

    Expect the usual suspects to launch new posts around 3:00 or so.

    Looking forward to it.

  562. Cash Cow TM says:

    Good luck, Bitter, at the new job.

    Break a leg…or whatever they say when lawyers get a new gig…

  563. Paul says:

    Trump testifying in front of Muehler is one of the talking points I got. But Crazy T and Ruskie T are close seconds.

  564. Paul says:

    My Soros check was smaller last friday so I’m a little bummed.

  565. Paul says:

    I’m still watching my recorded Morning Joe. Honest to God. So, late start today.

  566. Paul says:

    My wife’s copy of Fire and Fury is not coming for a few weeks. That’s also a bit of a bummer. The guy might be out of office by then and there be no reason to read the damn thing.

  567. Paul says:

    I was also up late after a special event at my church about whether to be a Sanctuary church. Honest to God. Not kidding.

  568. mnw says:



    It’s OVAH!


    Troll wit. Always remember to use lots of explanation points and plenty of CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!!!

  569. Paul says:

    mnw: CAPS! Sh%t, I forgot all about that. Clearly, that may be why my check was reduced.

  570. DW says:


    Remington Research

    Josh Hawley (R) 49%
    Claire McCaskill (D) 45%

    Incumbent 4 points under water this early indicates she is likely toast.

  571. Hugh says:

    Bye Claire and Joe Donnelly for sure

  572. Marco Rubio says:

    Fwiends, I have not yet dethided if I’m running for Prethident in 2020. Thank you for your thupport. I will dethide soon!

  573. Tgca says:

    Is Hollywood losing its mind or that self-absorbed?

    Oprah is a joke. Yeah, she’ll get the black woman vote but that will be offset by the Indy’s and white male vote. She is one of the most needy and insecure entertainers out there and she’ll never stand up to the scrutiny that would come of her and her business. Wait until the stories come out about her diva status and how poorly she treated some based on tidbits over the years. This woman will cave, at least HRC would fight, Oprah will cry and show absolute weakness. Who’s her VP, Streisand?

  574. Tgca says:

    It’s amazing how the MSM moves from one strategy to another to try to undo the 2016 election. So incompetency failed. Russia collusion failed. Now it’s POTUS is going senile and literally crazy? It’s amazing to watch this play out. For someone who supposedly repetitive and unable to read or focus, POTUS seems to be on top of all the latest events with Twitter reactions daily. Whether you like his tweets or not, Does this sound like someone who is senile and unaware of what’s going on?

    Again, I think it’s Trumps strategy to drive them bonkers and control the messaging and they keep walking into his traps.

  575. mnw says:


    Good news indeed, but wouldn’t go that far.

    Bear in mind, her name rec is nearly universal, & Hawley’s. name rec is probably half that, at best. I think a lot of the Hawley support is really “anybody but Claire” at this point.

    I’m probably only going to contribute to Hawley this time. Time to put a final end to Sky Queen’s career as “Missouri’s Obamalovin’ liberal” senator.

  576. Bitterlaw says:

    Break a leg…or whatever they say when lawyers get a new gig…

    I think most people say, “Damn. We were hoping at least one lawyer was down for good.”

  577. Bitterlaw says:

    I watched the last hour of the Golden Globes. My wife and daughter like award shows and my daughter wanted Dunkirk to win Best Picture.

    I am so relieved that Hollywood has finally been liberated from those terrible conservatives who assaulted and oppressed women for decades.

    What? It was liberal men who did it? Never mind.

  578. Charles says:

    Hawley is a great man and would easily take out the sky queen. It’s too bad that the Orange Fool is making what should be a slam dunk into a hail mary. The same hold true around the country. We should be on the path to 60 Senate Seats. Instead, we can’t even win in Ala fukking Bama.


  579. Waingro says:


    Remington Research

    Josh Hawley (R) 49%
    Claire McCaskill (D) 45%

    Incumbent 4 points under water this early indicates she is likely toast.”

    Excellent news. Hopefully Hawley’s lead continues to grow and we are finally rid of her.

    With Ohio possibly gone as a pickup, I would say the GOP’s best chances for flips are MO, IN, ND and MT.

    My goal is to somehow have 53 seats (effectively 54 seats with AL flipping back) going into 2020, putting the GOP in decent shape to hold onto the Senate should the Dems get the WH and the House back. I don’t see how this is not achievable — even in this climate.

  580. NYCmike says:

    “With Ohio possibly gone as a pickup, I would say the GOP’s best chances for flips are MO, IN, ND and MT.”

    -Is their bench that thin?

  581. NYCmike says:

    “Who’s her VP, Streisand?”

    -I <3 Babs!

    "Evergreen" can make my day, any day!

  582. mnw says:


    You missed a BIG one, my friend! Wisconsin! Nicholson is the GOP sleeper this cycle, imo.

  583. mnw says:

    Anybody here believe that socktroll really believes “Hawley is a great man”?

  584. DW says:

    597 – Indeed…Gonzales has that race just Tilt D:

    2018 Paladin Senate Dashboard
    ST | Sabato| Cook | Gonz | Cnt
    MO | Toss | Toss | Toss | 50
    IN | Toss | Toss | Toss | 51
    AZ | Toss | Toss | Toss | 52
    NV | Toss | Toss | Toss | 53
    ND | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | 47
    MT | Ln D | Lk D | Tlt D | 46
    FL | Toss | Ln D | Tlt D | 45
    OH | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | 44
    WV | Ln D | Toss | Toss | 43
    PA | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | 42
    WI | Ln D | Lk D | Tlt D | 41
    VA | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | 40
    MI | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | 39
    MN(s) | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | 38

  585. NYCmike says:

    DC (SUCKS!).

  586. mnw says:

    600 & n/t

  587. NYCmike says:

    “Nicholson is the GOP sleeper this cycle, imo.”

    -JACK is back, baby!

  588. Waingro says:

    #597, I’ll take your word for that, mnw. I tend to think WI, a purple state, which is showing signs of becoming redder and redder statewide, might be a tough call to flip an incumbent in this cycle.

    But, man, would that be a sweet pickup. Baldwin is a huge liberal.

  589. NYCmike says:

    “Baldwin is a huge liberal.”

    -Is it PC to point out obesity these days?

  590. Paul says:

    Trump is a joke. Yeah, he’ll get the white man vote but that will be offset by the women and minorities. He is one of the most needy and insecure entertainers out there and he’ll never stand up to the scrutiny that would come of him and his business. Wait until the stories come out about his diva status and how poorly he treated some based on tidbits over the years.